>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY WITH HOW TO GET A CAREER IN SCIENCE WRITING. THIS IS A SET OF LECTURE THAT IS WE DEVELOPED OVER THE PAST ACADEMIC YEAR, RAN LAST YEAR, IN HOW TO GET A JOB. AND WE HAVE DONE OTHER THINGS IN HOW TO GET A JOB IN EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AND IN TECH TRANSFER, GLOBAL HEALTH, SCIENCE POLICY, THINGS LIKE THAT. THESE ARE ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE. GO TO TRAINING.NIH. GOV AND WATCH PAST VIDEOS. FOR THOSE OF YOU JOINING US THROUGH VIDEO CAST, WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE YOU. WELCOME TO OUR NIH TEAM. I AM AT THE POSTDOC OFFICE HERE IN THE INTRAMURAL PROGRAM. THIS IS A REAL FUN KIND OF TALK TO GIVE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. TYPICALLY, YOU THINK ABOUT A HOW TO THING. THERE WILL BE A PANEL UP HERE AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TELLING YOU MY EXPERIENCES IN SCIENCE WRITING. WE HOSTED ONE LAST SOME OF THE, SO HOPEFULLY YOU GOT TO COME TO THAT TO LEARN WHAT PEOPLE DO. THIS IS TO TAKE YOU WHAT HOPEFULLY ALREADY KNOW ABOUT INFORMATIONAL INTERVIEWING OR OTHER THINGS AND TAKE IT TO, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? TO SAY I MEAN GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HOPEFULLY WE'LL BACKTRACK THROUGH. THIS I'M GRATEFUL TO A POSTDOC INTERN WHO WORKED IN MY OFFICE TO DEVELOPlœcgba PROBABLY INTERVIEWED ABOUT 20 PEOPLE FOR THIS TALK SO SHIELD GO INTO THE DIFFERENT SECTORS OF SCIENCE WRITING AND INTERVIEW PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE FIELD. AND ASK THEM HOW TO GET YOUR JOB AND HOW DID YOU NETWORK FOR YOUR JOB AND WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR YOUR JOB AND CAN I HAVE YOUR RESUME? SHE CREATED A DOCUMENT IN THE HANDOUTS THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE THAT INCLUDES RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, A COUPLE OF JOB POSTINGS THAT SHE NOTICED AND ALSO TWO OR THREE RESUME THAT IS SHE COLLECTED AND SCRUBBED CLEAN FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THE SCIENCE WRITING FIELD. SHE WAS SO SUCCESSFUL IN HER INTERNSHIP SHE IS DOING THE SCIENCE WRITING JOB. SHE JUST ACCEPTED A POSITION AT THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY AS A JOURNAL EDITOR. UNFORTUNATELY SHE'S NOTKk„ HERE TODAY. HAPPY FOR HER, SHE HAS A REAL JOB. THEY DO EXIST! SO, WE'LL GO THROUGH SCIENCE WRITING AND FINISH WITHIN AN HOUR. OKAY? COOL. MAKE SURE YOU PRINT THE HANDOUT FROM ONLINE BECAUSE THAT HAS REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. SO, WHEN WE INTERVIEWED THESE PEOPLE IN THE FIELD, WE ASKED THEM, WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT SCIENCE WRITING JOBS ENTAIL? AND THEY TOLD US THREE MAJOR THINGS. READING. AND THAT IS READING LARGE AMOUNTS OF INFORMATION AND BEING ABLE TO PROCESS THAT INTO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DIFFERENT WRITING SAMPLES AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SECTORS OF PEOPLE THEY DO FOR SCIENCE WRITING. OBVIOUSLY WHERE SCIENCE WRITING THERE IS A LOT OF WRITING. I KNOW THIS SEEMS A LITTLE REDUNDANT BUT THERE IS DIFFERENT TYPES OF WRITING THAT YOU ACTUALLY DO WITHIN SCIENCE WRITING AND IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU GO INTO TECHNICAL WRITING OR IF YOU'RE A JOURNAL EDITOR OR IF YOU'RE A -- IF YOU WRITE FOR A COMPANY. THE TYPES OF WRITING YOU DO WILL BE QUITE DIFFERENT. AND HOW YOU BUILD YOUR WRITING PORTFOLIO NOW AS A POSTDOC WILL TOTALLY DIFFER DEPENDING ON COME SECTOR YOU WANT TO GO INTO. BUT YOU CAN WRITE THINGS LIKE BRIEFINGS, LITERATURE REVIEWS. THINK ABOUT THE FRONT HALF OF "SCIENCE" AND "NATURE" AND "CELL," TYPICALLY WRITTEN BY AN EDITOR OR SCIENCE WRITING. TECHNICAL REPORTS, MEETING PROCEEDINGS. A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL HAVE SOMEONE AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE AFTER THE FACT. WHEN I WORKED AT THE NEW YORK ACADEMY OF SCIENCES, WE HAD A REPORTER COME TO EVERY EVENT WE RAN AND DO A LONG DETAILED AND SHORT EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF ALL OF THE THINGS OR EVENTS WE HOSTED AT THE NEW YORK ACADEMY OF SCIENCES. YOU CAN DO PROJECT SUMMARIES. PRESS RELEASES. PROGRESS REPORTS. AND THE TYPES OF WRITING YOU DO ARE VERY VARIED. AND SO YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE OF THIS LIST BEST FITS YOUR NEED AND DO INFORMATION INTERVIEWING AND NARROW DOWN THE CAREER PATH CHOICES BASED ON THE TYPES OF WRITHE YOU PREFER. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK I'M GOING INTO SCIENCE WRITING SO I DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO ANYONE. THAT'S NOT TRUE. THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNICATION THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITHIN SCIENTIFIC WRITING. SO A LOT OF TIMES IT'S WITH SCIENTISTS YOUR. SO YOU'LL WRITE AN ARTICLE FOR THE NIH CATALYST, FOR EXAMPLE. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO INTERVIEW THE SCIENTISTS AND THE INTRAMURAL RESEARCH PROGRAM IN ORDER TO WRITE THAT ARTICLE. OR YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO A SCIENCE FARACHAN FERENCE AS A JOURNAL EDITOR AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR THE NEXT BEST SCIENCE YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WITHIN YOUR JOURNAL VERSUS THEM GOING TO ANOTHER JOURNAL. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO SCIENTISTS THERE AND IT'S STILL VERY SCIENTIFICALLY LOADED. YOU HAVE TO TALK TO MARKETING AND SALES PERSONNEL. THIS IS WITHIN THE BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO DO SCIENTIFIC WRITING IN PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES AND BIOTECH COMPANIES, MAKING THAT TRANSITION OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT THE BENCH AND THINGS THAT GO TO THE MARKET. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVEz3b@FEy$P IS SCIENTIFICALLY LITERATE WHO CAN WRITE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE INTERESTING FOR THE CONSUMER. THINK ABOUT ALL THE TIMES YOU PICK UP A CATALOG, A SCIENTIFIC WRITER WROTE A LOT OF THE DESCRIPTION WITHIN THE CATALOG. YOU HAVE TO ALSO BE ABLE TO TALK WITH DESIGNERS AND ARTISTS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE CREATING THAT DOCUMENT THAT EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO READ. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A WEBSITE, YOU MAY GIVE ALL THE SCIENTIFIC WRITING CONTENTS TO SOMEONE ELSE BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO GO OVER AND MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS NICE AND IT'S PUT IN THE PROPER ORDER AND THEY HAVE THE ARTISTIC LICENSE TO CHANGE THINGS. FELLOW WRITERS, ET CETERA. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE PRESENTATIONS PRESENTATIONS AND WEB NARC. A LOT OF COMPANIES ARE MOVING INTO WEBINARS AND SOMETIMES SCIENCE WRITERš & RW„Y¡y 6 ALSO ATCC, NEW YORK ACADEMY OF SCIENCES, NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES. INSTITUTE OF MEDICINE, A LOT OF DIFFERENT NONPROFITS. GREAT REACH OF AMERICA -- EVERY INDUSTRY HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCIENTIFIC WRITING. WE HAVE FORMER FELLOWS WHO WENT ON TO WRITE AT KAISER, METAMUNE, THINGS LIKE. THAT THEY ARE GOING TO EVERY TYPE OF COMPANY TO DO SCIENTIFIC WRITING. WASHINGTON POST, NEW YORK TIMES, WE HAD A FELLOW GRADUATE STUDENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO HERE AT THE NIH WHO DID AN INTERN SHIP THROUGH AAAS FELLOWSHIP FOR SCIENCE WRITING AND SHE WROTE FOR THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE AS A NEW OUTBREAK OF WEST NILE IS COMING OUT AND SHE WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE. PRETTY FUN. THERE IS A LOT OF PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE. SCIENTIFIC CONSULTING GROUP IS ONE OF THEM AND I JUST GOT ANOTHER ONE IN MY IN BOX THIS MORNING FOR A GROUP IN INDIA THAT IS CURRENTLY RECRUITING FOR PEOPLE TO COME WRITE FOR THEM IN INDIA. I'M BLANKING ON THE NAME BUT IF YOU ASK ME AFTERWARDS, WE'LL LOOK IT UP. WE HAVE A TON OF PEOPLE. WE INTERVIEWED FOLKS AT THE FDA, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, ANY OF THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT DO SCIENCE HIRE SCIENCE WRITERS. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST AS FREELANCERS BUT BOTH THE SCIENTIFIC WRITERS WORK FOR A COMPANY, NOT FOR THEMSELVES, GOING OUT TO GO DRUM UP BUSINESS. FREELANCERS WILL FREELANCE WITH ALL OF THESE OTHER SEGMENTS. SO I KNOW A FREELANCER WHO FREELANCES FOR NATURE, FROM THE FOR THE NEW YORK ACADEMY OF SCIENCES AND THE NIH. SO A FREELANCER WILL WORK WITH ALL THE OTHER SECTORS BUT WORK FOR THEMSELVES. ANOTHER CHALLENGE WITH JOBS, WHAT IN THE WORLD DO AT A CALL THESE JOBS? THEY CALL THEM BY DIFFERENT NAMES. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE HARDEST PARTS OF TRYING TO FIND WHAT THE JOBS ARE AND THEN MOVING TO APPLY FOR THEM. THEY CALL THEM TECHNICAL WRITERS, SCIENTIFIC WRITERS, PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS, COMMUNICATION OFFICERS, TECHNICAL EDITORS AND SCIENTIFIC EDITORS. SO IT'S A BROAD RANGE. IT'S NOT QUITE AS BROAD AS AN R&D TYPE OF POSITION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS LOOKED AT A R&D POSITION IN INDUSTRY, EVERY COMPANY CALLS IT DIFFERENTLY. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DESCRIPTIVE. BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. TYPICALLY THE CAREER PROGRESSION WITHIN THIS FIELD IS TO START OUT VOLUNTEERING OR DETAILING OR GAINING CREDENTIALS WITHIN THE FIELD. THERE ARE A LOST WAYS YOU DOCK THAT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. THEN YOU MOVE INTO SCIENCE WRITER OR EDITOR ACCIDENT SCENE SCIENCE WRITER OR EDITOR AND THEN THE HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS. OUR SALARY RANGES OF PEOPLE WE ARE LOOKING AT STARTED FROM 65,000 DEPENDINGŽ WORK YOU DO. IF YOU'RE FREELANCING, WILL YOU DRUM UP THAT BUSINESS BY YOURSELF. I KNOW THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY PAID IN THE 80s. OTHER PLACES PAY IN THE 60s T REALLY JUST DEPENDS -- SOME PEOPLE GET PAID BY WORD SO A DOLLAR PER WORD, IF YOU WRITE 1000 WORDS, THAT'S 1000 DOLLARS. IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU'RE AT AND IT GO CAN GO UP TO 100,000 PLUS. A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE GET FOR THESE INTRODUCE, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NON-CITIZENS? AND AND THERE ARE. THEY ABOUND. AS LONG AS YOUR WRITING SKILLS ARE GOOD, THEY ABOUND. MOST NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS DO SPONSOR VISAS, HOWEVER SOMETIMES GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT2zt( TRICKIMR/ BUTÖ–la AS LONG AS YOUR WRITING IS UP TO SNUFF. SO MOST THE OF THE TIME GETTING A JOB LIKE THIS, NOT ONLY KNOW WHAT IS THEY CALL IT BUT WHERE DO THEY POST IT? IT'S SOMETHING THEY DON'T ALWAYS POST AS BROADLY AND THEY ARE DEFINITELY LIKELY NOT POSTING IN THE BACK OF "NATURE" OR THE BACK OF "SCIENCE." YOU HAVE TO BE CREATIVE. HAVE SPECIFIC COMPANIES IN MIND OR ORGANIZATIONS AND TROL THEIR WEBSITES, PERHAPS EVERY MONDAY YOU HAVE A LIST OF 20-30 COMPANIES YOU TROL THEIR WEBSITES. THESE ARE UNLIKE TYPICAL R&D JOBS, THESE ARE POSTED MONSTER, CAREER BUILDER, SOMETIMES SCIENCE AND NATURE, DEPENDING ON WHAT -- "SCIENCE" NEEDS A SCIENCE WRITER THEY WILL PUB USH THAT. BIOCAREER JOBS AND BIOSPACE. DEFINITELY A BROADER SEARCH MECHANISM THAN YOU WOULD TYPICALLY USE. U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL BE USAJOBS GOV. AND CONTRACTORS. IN THE NONPROFIT COMMUNITY, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT INDEED.COM. I KNOW MY NONPROFIT WHEN I WORKED IN NEW YORK CITY, ALWAYS POSTED IDEA LIST. THAT'S WHERE YOU FIND NONPROFIT JOBS. SO, WHAT SKILLS AS A PR -- HD OR -- Ph.D. OR MD OR DDO? YOU CAN READ AND PROCESS AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO THAT IS REALLY SOMETHING THEY ARE LOOKING AT. YOU CAN HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE WRITING ABSTRACTS, PAPERS, YOU KNOW HOW TO FIND INFORMATION AND YOU KNOW HOW TO DO RESEARCH. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TALK AND DISCUSS WITH A VARIATE OF OF LEVEL OF PEOPLE. ABILITY TO WORK UNDER PRESSURE AND MAKE DEADLINES. USUALLY THOSE DEADLINES ARE A LITTLE SQUISHY DEPENDING ON YOUR BOSS. USUALLY NOT A LOT OF DEADLINES OUT THERE. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK INDIVIDUALLY AND WITHIN A GROUP. SO LET'S DISSECT SOME OF THESE HOW YOU ADAPT YOUR„/d"y–Rzy&,;F SKILLS. IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU NOW TO START PRACTICING WRITINGS AND BRIEF SUM REESE FOR MULTIPLE TYPES OF AUDIENCES. BEING VERY CLEAR ASK CONSCENES AND TAILORING YOUR PIECES TO MATCH THE TECHNICAL LEVEL OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SKILL SETS. FOR EXAMPLE, SAY YOU'RE A BIOPHYSICIST AND YOU RUN NMR AND YOU WANT TO TALK TO A FLUOROCITE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DESCRIBE YOUR WORK TO SOMEONE TOTALLY OUTSIDE YOUR FIELD? OR AN IMMUNOLOGIST OR CELL BILGEGIST? HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND? JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A Ph.D. DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN ALWAYS TALK ACROSS THE AREAS. ANYONE EVER EXPERIENCE THAT? YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS YOUR SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE YOU READ TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF AUDIENCES. YOU READ AN ARTICLE, YOU ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, CALL YOUR MOM AND TELL HER ABOUT IT. LEARN HOW TO TALK TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF AUDIENCES. GO PRESENT AT HIGH SCHOOL. TALK TO BUSINESS PEOPLE. MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE SCIENCE. BY YOU DIGESTING IT AND YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO RELATE TO YOUR AUDIENCE. THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING ABOUT IT. AND ONE THING HERE YOU IS REALLY NEED SHOW ATTENTION TO DETAIL. SCIENCE WRITERS ARE NOTORIOUS FOR FINDING WHERE EVERY COMMA WAS MISPLACED. YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND FOCUS ON MAKING SURE YOU UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY GRAMMAR, SENTENCE STRUCTURE, BUT ALSO HOW TO CONVEY THE INFORMATION CONCISELY. YOU GUYS HAVE VERY GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS BUT IT NEVER ACTUALLY HURTS TO ADDRESS THOSE AND INCREASE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE. YOU CAN TRANSLATE BIG IDEAS INTO POTENTIAL THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE TO ALL AUDIENCES. THINK ABOUT THE LAST TIME YOU HAD A SUMMER INTERN AND HOW YOU DESCRIBED THE PROJECT AND HELPED THEM TO GET THEIR THE GROUND VERSUS HOW TO TURN AROUND AND TALK ABOUT THAT SAME INTERN'S PROJECT TO YOUR BOSS. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TALK ACROSS RANGES. IT DOESN'T HURT TO INCREASE THAT, TO BUILD IT AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE GIVING TALKS AT EARL JOURNAL CLUB YOU CAN. YOU HAVE GOOD PEOPLE SKILLS, BUT AGAIN PRACTICE YOUR LISTENING SKILLS BECAUSE AS A SCIENCE WRITER, IT'S ALL ABOUT ASKING OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR WORK AND THEN DIGESTING IT AND GIVING IT TO OTHER PEOPLE. YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AND BE ABLE TO THEN WRITE ABOUT IT. AND YOU NEED TO BUILD RAPPORT. LEARN TO BUILD RAPPORT WITH THE PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH. I WRITE MORE NOW THAN I EVER DID WHEN I WAS AT THE BENCH AND I'M NOT A SCIENCE WRITER BY ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. BUT THERE ARE DAYS I NEED TO RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE. SO I BUILD RAPPORT ACROSS THE OFFICE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ME. UNLIKE WHENIPS AT THE BENCH WHEN IT WAS JUST MY PROJECT AND WHATEVER I DID DURING THE DAY WAS HAPPY AND GO LUCKY AND OFF I WENT. THIS REALLY RELIES ON MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS PARTICIPATING IN THE WHOLE RANGE OF ACTIVITIES. NOW IT'S THE TIME, ONE THING THAT YOU WILL BE ASKED FOR IN INTERVIEW IS TELL ME ABOUT A TIME WHEN YOU HAD A DEADLINE. SO LEARNING HOW TO BUILD IN DEADLINES NOW AND SHOW DIRECT EXAMPLES OF HOW YOU CAN MAKE A DEADLINE WILL BENEFIT YOU WHEN YOU GO INTO AN INTERVIEW PROCESS. SO BUILD DEADLINES IN AND THEN BE ABLE TO GIVE EXAMPLES OF THOSE. YOU ALSO NEED TO KNOW ABOUT BROAD SCIENCE-BASED KNOWLEDGE. MINE WAS IN NUCLEASES BIOCHEMISTRY. HOW MANY IONS PARTICIPATE IN THE BINDING AND CLEAVAGE REACTION. IT'S NOT A LOT OF SCIENCE WRITING THERE. I REALLY HAVE TO BROADEN MY FIELD OUT INTO MUCH -- NOT EACH JUST BYOY PHYSICS BUT BIOCHEMISTRY, TO CHEMISTRY, MOLECULAR BIOLOGY. YOU HAVE TO BE VERY BROAD IN WHAT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT AND WHAT CAN YOU WRITE ABOUT. GO TO EVERY WALL. YOU AND WALLS WILL BE BECOME LIKE THIS. YOU CAN GATE BROAD SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. AND ALSO READ MORE. AND WE'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT THE FRONT END OF SCIENCE, NATURE, CELL, ET CETERA. THE US. >> VIEWS SECTION. WITH READING THE IN-DEPTH ARTICLES AS WELL BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THE SYNOPSIS. READ THE SYNOPSIS, HOW ARE THEY MAKING THE SYNOPSIS OF THE DIFFERENT ARTICLES AND READ BROADLY FASTER TOO. SO WE TALK A LOT ABOUT EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION AND BUILDING COMMUNICATION SKILLS BUT WHAT CAN YOU YOU DO NOW YOU? CAN WRITE. YOU CAN VOLUNTEER TO WRITE PAPERS, VOLUNTEER TO WRITE PIECES. THE NIH CATALYST HAS WORKED A LOT WITH POSTDOC FELLOWS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. LAURA CARTER, IF YOU'RE ON CAMPUS, OR AT THE NIH, LAURA CARTER IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WRITE. I PICKED UP THE MOST RECENT COPY OF THE CATALYST AND ALMOST EVERY ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY A POSTDOC. THAT'S THRILLING TO SEE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE. NIH RESEARCH MATTERS IS ANOTHER ON CAMPUSÖy[sZc[#8 vYŽ" PEOPLE DON'T TYPICALLY SEE. IT'S WHAT THE NIH MAKES FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND A LOT OF TIMES, POST DAWKS AND GRADUATE STUDENTS WILL WRITE FOR THIS AS WELL. THE VISITING FELLOWS HAVE A NEWSLETTER, WHICH IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HELP. THE DIFFERENT INSTITUTES HAVE NEWS LETTERS. I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, NIDDK HAS A FELLOW NEWSLETTER. YOU CAN WRITE FOR THOSE AS WELL OR IF YOU'RE AN NI -- Ph.D. HAS ONE, NCI HAS ONE. IF YOUR UNIT DOESN'T HAVE ONE, SUGGEST TO YOUR TRAINING DIRECTOR YOU'D LIKE TO BUILD ONE. I KNOW A FELLOW WHO HELPED TO START THE NIDDK9 -- DIRECTORS OR OTHER PLACES. ONE OF THEM IS SIT NEGLIGENT AUDIENCE. SO YOU COME TO ONE SESSION THROUGH THE NIH CAREER SYMPOSIUM AND PLAY REPORTER AND THEN THAT GETS PUBLISHED ONLINE. SO IT'S ANOTHER WAY FOR YOU TO GAIN. SO WATCH YOUR POSTDOC NEWSLETTER LATER ON THIS WEEK OR EYE NOTE FROM ME LATER ON THIS WEEK IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT. I KNOW THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT STARTED. LESLIE, RAN GENIE IS NOW AT THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY. IF YOU'RE THINKING DEFINITELY FOR THE SCIENTIFIC EDITING, YOU WANT TO BECOME AN EDITOR, YOU DEFINITELY 100% SHOULD JOIN THE NIH FELLOWS EDITORIAL BOARD. THIS IS ANY FELLOW CAN PARTICIPATE AND IS ALLOWED ANY PERSON ON CAMPUS TO PUT THEIR ARTICLE OR SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE INTO THE FELLOW'S EDITORIAL BOARD AND THEY WILL EDIT IT FOR FLOW, GRAMMAR AND SEND IT BACK TO THE RESEARCHER. IT'S ALL RUN BY FELLOWS. ALL OF THAT SAIDING IS RUN BY FELLOWS. ANYBODY IN THAT NOW? ONE IN THE BACK. ANYBODY EVER NOT HEARD OF THAT? THE FELLOWS EDITORIAL BOARD? SOME PEOPLE HAVE NOT HEARD OF THAT. SO YOU CAN HOOK UP WITH HILLARY AND HILLARY WILL TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THAT AFTERWARDS IF YOU LIKE MORE INFORMATION. YOU CAN ALSO JUST GOOGLE FELLOWS EDITORIAL BOARD. YOU SHOULD NOW WORK ON GIVING AS MANY ORAL PRESENTATION AS YOU CAN. CONSIDER JOINING TOAST MASTERS. WE HAVE A TOAST MASTERS HERE ON CAMPUS. THEY MEET ONE ONCE A WEEK. IT'S AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION TO IMPROVE SPEAKING SKILLS. FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION. THEY DO REALLY GREAT WORK. VALUES A NIH SPEAKER'S BUREAU WHICH YOU CAN VOLUNTEER FOR AND SAY A LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL WANTS SOMEBODY TO TALK ABOUT DIABETES AND YOU DO DIABETES RESEARCH. THEY WOULD CONNECT THE TWO OF YOU AND YOU WOULD GIVE A TALK AT ANOTHER CAMPUS. YOU CAN VOLUNTEER TO TEACH AT FAES. THEY LOOK FOR TEACHERS USUALLY IN THE SPRING AND FALL. YOU'LL SEE A LIST GO OUT. YOU CAN VOLUNTEER TO TEACH IN LOCAL SCHOOLS OR GIVE TALKS TO THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, BROADEN YOUR RANGE OF SCIENTIFIC SKILLS BY GOING TO MULTIPLE SEMINARS, JOURNAL CLUBS, CONFERENCES AND MAKING SURE TO GO TO THE TALKS YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER NORMALLY GONE TO. EXPERIMENTAL BIOLOGY LAST WEEK AND WENT TO HISTONE MODIFICATION. NOT MY FIELD BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO BROADEN MY SKILL SET. AND THE BIGGEST THING THAT EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT WHEN WE INTERVIEWED THEM IS NETWORKING. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE THE SCIENTIFIC WRITING FIELD. YOU NEED NETWORK AND SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'LL TALK ANOTHER THING YOU DOCK FOR PEOPLE SKILLS IS TO VOLUNTEER EITHER WITH THE NIH FELLOWS COMMITTEE, THE GRADUATE STUDENT COUNCIL, THE FELLOWS WITHIN YOUR OWN INSTITUTE AND GET EXPERIENCE LEADING LEADING AND ORGANIZING PEOPLE. YOU SHOULD BE COLLABORATING WITHIN YOUR LAB AND OUTSIDE OF YOUR LAB. REMEMBER BUILDING RAPPORT WITH SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT. ATTENDING MEETINGS, VOLUNTEER TO ORGANIZE THE SCIENTIFIC INTEREST GROUP ORTJOURNAL CLUB. THEY ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY, PLEASE SOMEBODY ORGANIZE THE CLUB THIS SEMESTER. AND THEN IT HELPS TO SHOW YOU CAN BUILD CONSENSUS AND YOU CAN BUILD A PROGRAM, ET CETERA. AND PARTICIPATE IN LEADERSHIP WORKSHOPS OFFERED BY THE OITE. WE OFFERED TWO SETS OFV q LEADERSHIP WORKSHOPS AND ONE IS THE LEADERSHIP SERIES AND WORKPLACE DYNAMIC SERIES, MEYERS BRIGGS, CONFLICT AND BUILDING TEAMS. WE ALSO HAVE THE MANAGEMENT BOOTCAMP IF YOU GO TO THE FIRST SEGMENT YOU THEN APPLY FOR MANAGEMENT BOOTCAMP, WHICH IS QUITE A BIT OF FUN TAKING IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. HOW DO YOU INTERVIEW PEOPLE? HOW DO YOU STAFF YOUR UNIT? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU GO, IT'S ABOUT MANAGEMENT SKILLS FOR ANYONE. WE TALKED ABOUT PROJECT AND TIME MANAGEMENT AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS IN THE SCIENCE WRITING FIELD. DEADLINES COME UP REALLY FAST. YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO BLINK YOUR EYE AND THE DEADLINE OF THE 500 WORD DOCUMENT HAD TO BE ON SOMEBODYEL ELSE'S DESK. MEANWHILE YOU HAD 7 OTHER PROJECTS GOING. LEARN TO SET AND FOLLOW-THROUGH A GOAL. MAKING SURE THAT YOU CAN FIND WAYS TO PLAN AND PRIORITIZE PAST. TYPICALLY PEOPLE WILL ASK YOU IN AN INTERVIEW, TELL ME HOW YOU WORK UNDER A DEADLINE. IF ALL YOU SAY IS, I WORK REALLY WELL UNDER A DEADLINE, I ALWAYS HAVE GOTTEN THINGS IN ON TIME. THAT'S NOT QUITE WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. IT'S MORE, I HAVE ALWAYS WORKED UNDER A DEADLINE. I SET CALENDAR REMINDERS. I HAVE A TO DO THAT IS IS PRIORITIZED. I MAKE SURE THAT I CAN SAY NO TO THINGS. IT'S YOU WHAT ACTUALLY DO TO GET TO THAT DEADLINE THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THEM. AND IF YOU HAVE HARD TIME WITH, IT THERE ARE THINGS, A COUPLE OF BOOKS OUT THERE, SON CALLED "GETTING THINGS DONE." ANOTHER IS CALLED, "EAT THIS FROG." DON'T ASK. AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER BOOKS YOU CAN PICK UP IN THE OITE CAREER LIBRARY AND READ THOSE TO HELP TO LEARN HOW TO PRIORITIZE TO DO SOME GOAL SETTING. FRANKLIN KOFI HAS NICE TIME MANAGEMENT THINGS. BUT WORK ON THESE THINGS NOW SO THAT YOU CAN SHOW PEOPLE HOW YOU DO THIS, HOW YOU MANAGE MULTIPLE PROJECTS AND TASKS. IF YOU CAN HELP WITH BUDGETING, EVEN BETTER. AND IF YOU CAN PLAN A PROJECT FOR A SUMMER INTERN, THAT CAN SHOW A LOT OF ABILITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WHEN I SEE YOUR RESUME, IT SAYS MENTORED SUMMER INTERN. THAT IS SO MUCH MORE THAN ONE BULLET LINE. YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR SUMMER INTERN AND DEVELOP A PROJECT FOR A NOVICE, THAT YOU CAN COMMUNICATE THAT PROJECT BOTH WRITTEN AND ORALLY. IT'S MORE THAN ONE BULLET POINT. SO WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE ATTENDING DIFFERENT JOURNAL CLUBS AND OTHER PLACES MAKE SURE YOU'RE READING SCIENCE MAG SCENES AND CHEMISTRY AND ENGINEERING NEWS BY THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY, THE SCIENTIST IS A GREAT PUBLICATION, POPULAR SCIENCE. WIRED MAGAZINE IS PRETTY GOOD. I DON'T KNOW, THE NEW SECTION OF SCIENCE AND NATURE. WHAT ELSE DO YOU READ THAT EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD BE READING? POPULAR MAGAZINE. MAGAZINES THAT WRITE FOR THE GENERAL AUDIENCE WITH A SCIENTIFIC SLANT. SCIENTIFIC„iiW5 AMERICAN? DISCOVER. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC. DEPENDING ON WHAT ARTICLE IS IT. YOU CAN EVEN READ NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC KIDS. THERE IS A LOT OF TELEVISION SHOWS THAT HELPS TO BROADEN YOUR SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE AND SOME WILL SEEM SILLY BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCIENCE CHANNEL, THERE IS A SCIENCE CHANNEL. MYTH BUSTERS. PBS. NOVA, GET INVOLVED WITH KNOWING WHAT IS OUT THERE IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNICATION REALM. NOT ONLY ON TV THAT YOU'RE WATCHING IT BUT SOMEBODY HAD TO WRITE THE SCRIPT FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER PLACE YOU CAN DO SCIENCEr y??H- Mle: WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS YOU WOULD SAY IS OR MAKES A SUCCESSFUL SCIENCE WRITER IN PEOPLE SAY FIRST A PASSION FOR SCIENCE. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO READ SCIENCE VERY QUICKLY. YOU HAVE TO REALLY BE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE SCIENCE AND BROAD AREAS OF SCIENCE. YOU HAVE TO BE PASSIONATE FOR READING AND WRITING SCIENCE. YOU HAVE TO BE THE TYPE OF PERSON WHEN YOU GO TO THE TRAIN YOU TAKE THE WHOLE JOURNAL AND READ THE ENTIRE THING. STRONG DESIRE TO CONTINUE LEARNING AND GROWING. A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THIS NOT ONLY WITHIN THE BROADER ASPECT OF SCIENCE BUT ALSO THE CHANGING WORLD OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND WRITING. THINK ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE BLOGGING. OUR REPORTERS, WEBSITES, TWITTER, PINTEREST. FACEBOOK. THE TYPES -- AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LEARN AND GROW WITHIN THE CHANGING MEDIA COMMUNITY. AND IT HAS SLOWED DOWN A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR NOT EMBRACING DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES. AND REALLY SHOW THAT YOU CAN TAKE ON CHALLENGES AND GET OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE. THAT 1PEOPLE WE INTERVIEWED REALLY HIGHLIGHTED WAS BEING ABLE TO GET OUTSIDE YOUR COMFORT ZONE. IF SOMEBODY WERE TO ASK YOU RIGHT NOW, GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN YOU PUSH YOURSELF AND WORKED OUTSIDE OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE, WOULD YOU HAVE AN ANSWER? AND HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER IT? SO TO GET YOUR FOOTED IN DOOR, TAKE ADDITIONAL COURSEOS EFFECTIVE WRITING. SOME OF THESE CAN BE DONE THROUGHOUT NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SCIENCE WRITERS OR THE DC SCIENCE WRITERS ASSOCIATION. THESE ARE TWO LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS WHO DO AMAZING THINGS. THIGH OFFER CERTIFICATE-BASED PROGRAMS AND SKILLS SCIENCE WRITING. FAES HAS A FEW COURSES BUT NOT A TON. IT'S REALLY THESE TWO GROUPS THAT HAVE A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR PEOPLE WITHIN THE SCIENTIFIC WRITING FIELD. A LOT OF PEOPLE SET UP BLOGS. ONE OF OUR PANELISTS LAST YEAR FROM THE SCIENCE WRITING PANEL TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH SHE BLOG SHE HAD MOVED FROM SCIENTIFIC EDITOR INTO A FREELANCE PERSON WHO DID A LOT OF BLOGGING BACK INTO SCIENTIFIC EDITING. SHE MADE HER WAY THROUGH THE THINGS BESIDES WHERE HER CAREER AND HER LIFESTYLE FIT AT THAT MOMENT. SO, A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NETWORKING. I RECOMMEND THAT YOU WORK, YOU REALLY NETWORK WITH PEOPLE ON SCIENCE WRITING NOW. AT THE NIH CAREER SYMPOSIUM ON MAY 18, WE HAVE A WHOLE SEMINAR, SESSION, HOUR SESSION, ON SCIENCE COMMUNICATION. THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY FROM NATURE, SOMEBODY WHO BLOGS AND SOMEBODY WHO WRITES AT THE NIH. AND ANOTHER ONE. ONE OTHER FUN SON IF YOU THINK TECHNICAL WRITING IS YOU WHAT WANT TO DO, NEXT TIME YOU CALL TECHNICAL SUPPORT, GET YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED ABOUT THE -- AND THEN TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR CAREER PATH AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE WITHIN THAT COMPANY. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS SILLY. YOU'LL BE SURPRISED WHO YOU GET TO. ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO DO SALES WITHIN YOUR–// WHEN YOU HEAR THE HEELS CLICKING AND EVERYBODY DIVES UNDER THEIR DESK, TALK TO THEM. THEY MAY HAVE AN ABILITY TO GIVE YOU GOOD CONNECTIONS WITHIN COMPANIES. WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THESE AND THE OPPORTUNITY AT THE CAREER SYMPOSIUM WILL BE COMING UP. THERE IS A FELLOWSHIP THROUGH THE AAAS FELLOW SCIENCE WRITING FELLOWSHIP AND A COUPLE OTHERS WITHIN THE THE HANDOUT WE SENT YOU. THIS SAY GOLD STANDARD. THEY DO AMAZING WORK. THE FIRST ONE NOW DOES PR FOR JOHN'S HOPKINS UNIVERSITY. SO SHE FINISHED HER FELLOWSHIP AND NOW DOES SCIENTIFIC WRITING FOR JOHN'S HOPKINS. I TALKED„i ABOUTq KAISER, NOW JOHN HOPKINS. NOW AT THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE IN THE ALUMNI DATABASE OR LINKED IN. SO YOU CAN FIND THEM. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF UNIVERSITIES THAT OFFER A MASTERS OF ARTS AND SCIENCE WRITING. NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO GET ONE OF THESE T DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADD A LOT OF CREDENTIALS. A LOT OF FOLKS DO THIS MASTERS OF SCIENCE WRITING BUT WITH FOLKS WITH Ph.D.s AND DOCTORS AND MDs AND DOs, YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO GET A MASTERS IN ARTS AND SCIENCE WRITING. SO, WHEN WE ASKED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE FIELD HOW DO PEOPLE REALLY SHOW THEY ARE PASSIONATE AND READY TO GO INTO SCIENCE WRITING? THIS IS THE THINGS THEY SAID. ENSURE THAT YOU CAN DEMONSTRATE YOU TRANSLATE YOUR SKILLS FROM OFF THE BENCH. HOW DO YOU BUILD YOUR SKILL SET? WHAT DOES COMMUNICATION MEAN? THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A LIST OF TECHNIQUES. THEY CARE YOU CAN TALK TO PEOPLE. ONE ASKED, IF YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE FOR TECHNICAL AUDIENCES AND WRITE HANDBOOK AND PROTOCOLS. SHOULDN'T YOU LIST YOUR TECHNICAL SKILLS? NOT A SINGLE PERSON MADE IT IN THIS FIELD LISTED OTHER TECHNICAL SKILLS. THEY WANT TO HEAR, I DO X TO SUNDAY Y. THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE FAIL. THEY TELL ME I DO X. WHY? SO I DO X TO UNDERSTAND WHY. YOU'RE GOING TO TAYLOR YOUR RESUME FOR EVERY POSITION YOU GO TO. DEMONSTRATE THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. DON'T WANT TO GO FOR A TECHNICAL TYPE OF JOB AND NOT TALK ANYTHING ABOUT SCIENCE. DEMONSTRATE A LEVEL OF INTEREST FOR SCIENCE WRITING ABOVE AND BEYOND APPLYING FOR A POSITION. A LOT OF PEOPLE WE INTERVIEWED SAID THEY GET COVER LETTERS FROM PEOPLE SAYING I'M DONE WITH THE 67 I'M GOING INTO SCIENCE WRITING. THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET YOU A JOB AND YOU SHOULD SAY I SEE YOUR MISSION AND I UNDERSTAND THE LATEST DRUG RELEASE YOU HAD. WHATEVER THAT IS, SHOW THAT YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE COMPANY. NOT JUST INTERESTED IN THE JOB THAT THE COMPANY„'‡k&9 SPECIAL INTERVIEW CONSIDERATIONS. ALMOST ALWAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PORTFOLIO FOR YOUR WORK. YOU WROTE FOR WHO? BUILD YOUR PORTFOLIO. EVERY PERSON HAS A PORTFOLIO. NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS FOR SCIENTIFIC EDITING WHERE YOU'RE GETTING THE JOURNAL ARTICLES IN BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT DOING THE SAME TYPE OF WRITING. IF YOU'RE GOING INTO TECHNICAL OR SCIENTIFIC WRITING, MEDICAL SCIENCE LIAISON. MEDICAL WRITERS, YOU NEED HAVE A PORTFOLIO YOU'RE STARTING TO BUILD. >> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE TYPICAL, SO TELL ME ABOUT YOURSELF, TELL ME ABOUT THE WORST BOSS YOU EVERc TELL ME ABOUT THE GREATEST PLACE YOU EVER WORKED. TELL ME ABOUT YOUR TECHNICAL SKILLS SCIENTIFIC PROJECTS. IN ADDITION THEY TYPICALLY ALWAYS HAVE TESTS COULD BE A GRAMMAR TEST. IT COULD BE YOU HAVE TO WRITE A SUMMARY OR AN EXCERPT FROM TEXT. THEY WILL GIVE YOU AN ARTICLE AND SAY, WRITE FOR ME. THEY'LL COME BACK IN 20 MINUTES AND YOU TO HAVE IT FINISHED. THE OTHER THING I KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING INTO SCIENTIFIC EDITING, THEY WILL GIVE YOU AN EDITINGEST AND THAT MEANS THEY WILL HAND YOU A PAPER AND SIT YOU DOWN AND THEN COME BACK IN A LITTLE BIT AND ASK YOU WHAT YOUR DECISION IS. WOULD HAVE YOU PUBLISHED THIS AND WHY OR WHY NOT? AND THEN IT'S LIKELY A PAPER THAT EDITING STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO SEE HOW YOU PROCESS THE INFORMATION, HOW YOU LOOK AT THE WRITING BUT ALSO THE DATA. IS IT APPROPRIATE? ARE THEY MISSING SOMETHING? YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE THUMBS UP OR DOWN ON WHETHER YOU WOULD HAVE PUBLISHED THIS BUT WRITE A REPORT. SO IT IS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INTERVIEW. THAN JUST, TELL ME ABOUT YOURSELF. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO TO THE MICROPHONES BECAUSE WE ARE VIDEO CASTING. IF THEY CAN'T HEAR, IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM. SO COME ON UP. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PORTFOLIOS. I'M WONDERING IF WHAT THE WRITING SAMPLES, IF THEY ALL SHOULD BE PUBLISHED? WHAT TYPES OF WRITING SAMPLES? >> AND IT'S GOING TO VARY DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE GOING. SAY YOU'RE GOING INTO TECHNICAL WRITING JOB. SHOW YOUR MATERIALS FROM A ARTICLE THAT YOU WROTE. YOU COULD SHOW A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE AND THEY SOMETIMES WANT TO SEE THE POST-EDITED VERSION. >> I WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING. YOU MENTIONED QUICKLY THE SCIENCE WRITERS ASSOCIATION, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SCIENCE WRITERS AND ANYBODY CAN JUST JOIN UP TO THE ASSOCIATION. GO ON THEIR WEBSITE AND PAY YOUR DEUCE. YOU CAN BE IN THEIR LIST AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES. TO BE A MEMBER, YOU NEED TO HAVE FIVE CLIPS AND TWOV smyy; SPONSORS. I'M3C–E‡ >> AND IT'S PART OF THE NETWORKING THING. HOW DO YOU FIND PEOPLE TO NETWORK WITH? WE TALKED ABOUT CALLING SUPPORT. LOOKING AT PEOPLE WRITING FOR VARIOUS ARTICLES. SO AT NATURE, WHO IS SHE? CAN YOU CONNECT WITH HER? A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL PUBLISH THEIR TAG SHRINE HOW TO CONNECT WITH THEM AND YOU CAN JUST WRITE THEM AND ASK FOR A INTERVIEW. YOU REALLY HAVE TO BUILD THATXHjo NETWORK. WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? >> [ INDISCERNIBLE ] -- HOW TO WRITE A PAPER -- IS THIS GOOD -- . >> SCIENCE WRITING IS REALLY A COURSE FOR -- WITH PERSONS WHO ENGLISH IS NOT THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE OR PEOPLE LOOKING TO BRUSH UP ON BASIC GRAMMAR SCHEDULES. I WOULDN'T FLOTPUT IT ON YOUR RESUME BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SUPER HIGHLIGHT. AS FOR THE PUBLISHING AND WRITING THE MANUSCRIPT, AGAIN, IT'S TO TEACH YOU THINGS YOU SHOULD BE TAUGHT WITHIN A GRADUATE OR POST DAWK THING AND IT'S JUST A COURSE. YOU CAN PUT IT ON THERE BUT IT WON'T GIVE YOU ANY CREDENTIALS USUALLY. IT'S A DIFFERENT FORM OF WRITING. SO HOPEFULLY YOU NOW KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A NETWORK WITH PEOPLE FINDING THEM ON DATABASES, LINKED IN OR E-MAILING PEOPLE. YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO GET CLIPS AND BUILD YOUR PORTFOLIO. AND ANY WAY YOU CAN GET ANY WRITING SKILLS. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO BROADEN YOUR SCIENTIFIC HORIZONS AND WORK ON THAT ORAL PRESENTATION SKILLS. BROADEN SKILLS AND GIVE EXAMPLES AND NETWORK. AND YOU PROBABLY WILL MAKE IT INTO THE SCIENCE WRITING FIELD IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO DO. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE HOW-TO-SERIES OF SCIENCE WRITING. [ APPLAUSE ]