1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,520 WELCOME BACK TO DAY 3 OF THE 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,280 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT RESEARCH 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,760 PRACTICUM, OUR LAST DAY. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,720 THANK YOU TO ALL THE ATTENDEES 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:14,920 YESTERDAY FOR SUBMITTING SO MANY 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,320 GREAT QUESTIONS. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,520 PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,440 JUST A REMINDER PLEASE SUBMIT 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,840 TECHNICAL QUESTIONS TO THE CHAT 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,600 BOX, AND QUESTIONS FOR THE 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,800 PRESENTERS IN THE Q&A PANEL AND 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,960 DIRECT THOSE TO ALL PANELISTS. 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,280 TODAY WE'LL BE CONTINUING WITH 14 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,600 SESSION 6, SPECIAL TOPICS. 15 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,280 WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS LEFT, 16 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,720 AND WE'LL MOVE OVER TO SESSION 17 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,280 7, MEETING THE STAKEHOLDERS AND 18 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,600 HEAR FROM THOSE THAT STUDY, 19 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,640 ADVOCATE, AND EDUCATE ON DIETARY 20 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:45,960 SUPPLEMENTS. 21 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,760 THIS WILL INCLUDE A PANELS, 22 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,000 SESSION 7, SO PLENTY OF TIME FOR 23 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,280 QUESTIONS. 24 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,480 LET'S GET STARTED. 25 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:55,520 I WANT TO WELCOME BACK OUR 26 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,880 MODERATOR, DR. BECKY COSTELLO. 27 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,680 >> THANK YOU, DR. GAHCHE. 28 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,120 WELCOME, GOOD MORNING. 29 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,240 OUR FIRST PANEL IS DIETS AND THE 30 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,120 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. 31 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:18,080 AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM DR. 32 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:24,320 SCOTT AND MS. LINDSEY. 33 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:28,000 DR. SCOTT'S Ph.D. IS IN HEALTH 34 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,640 REHABILITATION SCIENCES, AND 35 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,400 HE'S A BOARD CERTIFIED 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,640 SPECIALIST IN SPORTS DIETETICS. 37 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,080 MS.LINDSEY IS ALSO FROM THE 38 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,040 UNIFORM SERVICE, SOMETIMES WE 39 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:47,560 CALL IT USO, SERVES AS DIRECTOR 40 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,200 OF OPERATIONS SAFETY, SENIOR 41 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,360 NUTRITION SCIENTIST WITH 42 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,120 CONSORTIUM FOR HEALTH AND 43 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,920 MILITARY PERFORMANCE. 44 00:01:51,920 --> 00:02:00,440 WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,040 DR. SCOTT. 46 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:01,920 >> THANK YOU FOR THE 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,720 INTRODUCTION AND TO THE 48 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,440 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE FOR 49 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,920 INVITING US TO BE PART OF THE 50 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,320 SYMPOSIUM AGAIN THIS YEAR. 51 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,120 ANDREA AND I ARE HAPPY TO KICK 52 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,920 OFF DAY 3 WITH THE TALK ABOUT 53 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:13,920 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS AND 54 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:14,880 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. 55 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,680 THERE'S BEEN SOME GREAT 56 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,680 DISCUSSION OVER THE PAST COUPLE 57 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,120 DAYS ON THIS TOPIC, AND HOPE 58 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,920 WE'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS 59 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:22,080 WE MOVE THROUGHOUT OUR 60 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,760 PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE DON'T 61 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,960 PLEASE INCLUDE THOSE IN THE Q&A 62 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,720 AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET TO 63 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,880 THEM AFTERWARDS. 64 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,800 WE'RE REQUIRED TO INCLUDE OUR 65 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,800 DISCLOSURE INFORMATION. 66 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,360 IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE 67 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,080 OPINIONS AND ASSERTIONS 68 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,200 EXPRESSED ARE THOSE OF ANDREA 69 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,440 AND MYSELF AND DO NOT REFLECT 70 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,000 OFFICIAL POLICY OR POSITION OF 71 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,120 THE UNIFORMED SERVICES 72 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,560 UNIVERSITY, DEPARTMENT OF 73 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,560 DEFENSE, OR HENRY M JACKSON 74 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,640 FOUNDATION AND FURTHER MENTION 75 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,440 OF TRADE NAMES DOES NOT IMPLY 76 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,880 ENDORSEMENT BY THE U.S. 77 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,320 GOVERNMENT, NEITHER ANDREA NOR 78 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,560 MYSELF HAVE ANY FINANCIAL 79 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,680 CONFLICTS OF INTEREST TO 80 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,800 DISCLOSE. 81 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,080 WE WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION 82 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:07,960 UNIFORMED SERVICES UNIVERSITY, 83 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,600 USU, WAS CHARTERED BY AN ACT OF 84 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,040 CONGRESS IN 1972, THE NATION'S 85 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,440 ONLY FEDERAL HEALTH SCIENCES 86 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:14,760 UNIVERSITY. 87 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,320 IT WAS ORIGINALLY FOUNDED TO BE 88 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,920 THE WEST POINT OF MEDICINE BUT 89 00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:22,080 OVER THE YEARS OUR MISSION HAS 90 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,720 REALLY CONTINUED TO EVOLVE. 91 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,400 AS DR. COSTELLO MENTIONED OUR 92 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,280 MAIN CAMPUS IS ACROSS THE STREET 93 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:37,600 FROM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF 94 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,160 HEALTH, ALSO HOME TO WALTER 95 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,200 REED, AND OUR CAMPUS AND MEDICAL 96 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,320 SCHOOL WE ALSO HAVE VARIOUS 97 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,680 GRADUATE DEGREE PROGRAMS WE 98 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,320 OFFER, AS WELL AS GRADUATE 99 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,360 SCHOOL OF NURSING. 100 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,240 ALL OF OUR STUDENTS IN THE 101 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,520 MEDICAL SCHOOL AND GRADUATE 102 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,120 SCHOOL OF NURSING ARE IN ONE OF 103 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,840 FOUR UNIFORMED PROFESSIONS, 104 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,400 INCLUDING THE U.S. ARMY, AIR 105 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,160 FORCE, NAVY, AND PUBLIC HEALTH 106 00:03:59,160 --> 00:03:59,440 SERVICE. 107 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,480 IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING 108 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,200 MORE WE'VE INCLUDED OUR URL 109 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:05,560 THERE. 110 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,840 OUR OBJECTIVES TODAY ARE 111 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,120 FOUR-FOLD. 112 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,280 FIRST WE WANT TO DESCRIBE THE 113 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,920 PREVALENCE OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 114 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,560 USE IN THE DoD. 115 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,280 SECOND, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT 116 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,400 SELECT DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 117 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,160 RESEARCH INITIATIVES THAT WE 118 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,320 HAVE GOING ON AT THE UNIVERSITY. 119 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,120 I'LL PASS IT OVER TO ANDREA TO 120 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,280 BRIEFLY IDENTIFY SOME ISSUES 121 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:26,480 ASSOCIATED WITH DIETARY 122 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,680 SUPPLEMENTS AND LAST SHE WILL 123 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:35,240 INTRODUCE AND WALK US THROUGH 124 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,320 OPERATION SUPPLEMENT SAVES, 125 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,040 OPSS. 126 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,920 LET'S TALK ABOUT USE BY SERVICE 127 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,400 MEMBERS. 128 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,360 BEFORE WE LOOK AT THAT DATA I 129 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,840 THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO 130 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:45,160 UNDERSTAND REALLY WHERE THESE 131 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,000 DATA COME FROM. 132 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,400 THERE ARE THREE MAIN SOURCES WE 133 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,760 DERIVE OUR PREVALENCE DATA FROM. 134 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,800 FIRST IS THE SURVEY OF HEALTH 135 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,640 RELATED BEHAVIORS, WHICH 136 00:04:53,640 --> 00:05:04,160 ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE DEFENSE 137 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:05,920 HEALTH AGENCY, DHA. 138 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,600 THE SURVEY HAPPENS EVERY THREE 139 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,880 OR FOUR YEARS MOST RECENTLY 140 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,160 COMPLETED IN 2018 BY THE RAND 141 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:13,560 CORPORATION. 142 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,440 THE NEXT SET OF DATA WE HAVE ARE 143 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,320 DERIVED FROM MILLENIUM COHORT 144 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,080 STUDY OUT OF OF THE NAVAL HEALTH 145 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,960 RESEARCH CENTER IN SAN DIEGO. 146 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,760 AND THIS IS REALLY THE LARGEST 147 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,440 AND LONGEST RUNNING HEALTH STUDY 148 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,640 OF MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS. 149 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,240 SO THEY DO FROM TIME TO TIME ASK 150 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,080 QUESTIONS ABOUT DIETARY 151 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:34,680 SUPPLEMENTS. 152 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,920 AND LAST IS THE U.S. MILITARY 153 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,400 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT USE STUDY 154 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,120 WHICH WAS CONDUCTED BETWEEN 155 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,920 DECEMBER OF 2018 AND AUGUST OF 156 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,960 2019. 157 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,880 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS ARE 158 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,880 GENERALLY GROUPED INTO DIFFERENT 159 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,640 CATEGORIES, BASED ON THEIR 160 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,000 INGREDIENTS THROUGHOUT THESE 161 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,560 DIFFERENT SURVEYS, AND THOSE 162 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,520 CATEGORIES INCLUDE INDIVIDUAL 163 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,840 VITAMINS OR MINERALS, 164 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:02,440 MULTI-VITAMIN, MULTI-MINERAL 165 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,760 PRODUCTS, PROTEINS OR AMINO 166 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,240 ACID, HERBAL PRODUCTS, PURPORTED 167 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,120 PRO HORMONES, JOINT PRODUCTS, 168 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,840 COMBINATION PRODUCTS WHICH 169 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:13,560 INCLUDES MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT 170 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,520 PRODUCTS, THOSE THAT CONTAIN ONE 171 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,120 OR MORE CATEGORIES OF THE 172 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,040 AFOREMENTIONED DIETARY 173 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,680 SUPPLEMENT INGREDIENTS, MOSTLY 174 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,320 IN DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE THIS 175 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,400 INCLUDES WEIGHT LOSS PRODUCTS OR 176 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,360 PRE-WORKOUT PRODUCTS, AND THEN 177 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,840 OF COURSE THERE'S AN OTHER 178 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:30,120 CATEGORY. 179 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,640 GENERALLY SPEAKING ACROSS OUR 180 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,760 SURVEYS A USER IS ANY INDIVIDUAL 181 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,400 WHO SELF-REPORTS USING AT LEAST 182 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,240 ONE OR MORE CATEGORIES OF 183 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,200 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS AT LEAST ONE 184 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,720 OR MORE TIME PER WEEK. 185 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,960 SO HERE WE SEE THE PREVALENCE 186 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,880 DATA OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENT USE 187 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,040 BY SERVICE BRANCH, USING DATA 188 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,440 DERIVED FROM U.S. MILITARY 189 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,120 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT USES STUDY. 190 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,600 AGAIN, WITH THAT USER DEFINED AS 191 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,200 ANYONE USING ONE OR MORE 192 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,120 CATEGORIES, ONE OR MORE TIMES 193 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,000 PER WEEK. 194 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,200 WHAT YOU SEE IS NEARLY 3 IN 4, 195 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,560 75% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REPORT 196 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,240 USING AT LEAST ONE OR MORE 197 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,120 CATEGORIES OF DIETARY 198 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,200 SUPPLEMENTS AT LEAST ON A WEEKLY 199 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,400 BASIS. 200 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,160 THIS PREVALENCE IS CONSIDERABLY 201 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,360 HIGHER THAN WHAT WE SEE IN THE 202 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,120 GENERAL U.S. ADULT POPULATION 203 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,920 BASED ON THE NHANES DATA THAT 204 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,880 DR. BAILEY AND OTHERS HAVE 205 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,560 ALREADY PRESENTED ON. 206 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,560 SIMILAR TO NHANES THE MOST 207 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,840 COMMON CATEGORY USE OF DIETARY 208 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,480 SUPPLEMENT USE BY SERVICE 209 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,800 MEMBERS IS MULTI-VITAMIN, 210 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,280 MULTI-MINERAL PRODUCTS. 211 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,240 HOWEVER, WHERE WE SEE THE 212 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,040 DIFFERENCE THE REMAIN TOP THREE 213 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,440 INCLUDE COMBINATION PRODUCTS, 214 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,840 SPECIFICALLY WEIGHT LOSS 215 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,160 PRODUCTS, PRE-WORKOUT TYPE 216 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,440 PRODUCTS, PROTEINS AND AMINO 217 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:45,880 ACIDS. 218 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,760 SO AT PRESENT, WHAT YOU'LL 219 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,080 NOTICE UP HERE IS WE DO NOT HAVE 220 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,800 ANY DATA ON THE USE OF DIETARY 221 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,360 SUPPLEMENTS AMONGST OUR NEWEST 222 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,680 BRANCH, THE SPACE FORCE. 223 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,440 WE HOPE IN THE COMING YEARS TO 224 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,120 BE ABLE TO PROVIDE PREVALENCE 225 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,320 DATA IN THAT AREA AS WELL. 226 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,240 SO GIVE THAN NEARLY 3 IN 4 227 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,320 MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS REPORT 228 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,120 USING DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, I 229 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,200 WANT TO NOW DISCUSS SELECT 230 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,280 RESEARCH INITIATIVES WE HAVE 231 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,960 GOING ON HERE AT THE UNIFORMED 232 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,800 SERVICES UNIVERSITY. 233 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,960 FIRST WE HAVE AN ONGOING PROJECT 234 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,160 THAT'S FOCUSED ON PRODUCT 235 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,840 TESTING, SPECIFICALLY WE'RE 236 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:26,680 INTERESTED IN TESTING FOR 237 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,320 ADULTERATION, PURITY AND QUALITY 238 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,120 IN COLLABORATION WITH OLE MISS, 239 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,560 WE HEARD FROM DR. GURLEY 240 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,640 YESTERDAY. 241 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,320 WE COMPLETED A PROJECT TO 242 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,040 EXPLORE DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS 243 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,680 MARKETED FOR BRAIN HEALTH AND 244 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:39,520 COGNITIVE ENHANCEMENT AND HAVE 245 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,520 AN ONGOING PROJECTS LOOKING AT 246 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,840 SUPPLEMENTED FOR IMMUNE HEALTH 247 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,320 AND LAST OMEGA 3 STATUS OF 248 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,080 MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS, WE'RE 249 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,120 REGULARLY GETTING REQUESTS FROM 250 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,520 CONGRESS ASKING US WHAT WE'RE 251 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,840 DOING TO IMPROVE THE OMEGA 3 252 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,680 STATUS OF OUR SERVICE MEMBERS, 253 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:59,120 AND THIS PROJECT IS JUST ONE 254 00:08:59,120 --> 00:08:59,880 EXAMPLE. 255 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,040 SO OVER THE LAST TWO TO TWO AND 256 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,440 A HALF YEARS WE SEEN INCREASE IN 257 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,320 NUMBER OF QUESTIONS WE'VE 258 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,320 RECEIVED FROM MILITARY SERVICE 259 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,560 MEMBERS ASKED ABOUT PRODUCTS 260 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:10,920 MARKETED FOR BRAIN HEALTH AND 261 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:11,400 COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE. 262 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,400 SO WE REALLY TOOK THIS AS AN 263 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,520 OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE 264 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,440 INTO THE MARKETPLACE TO BETTER 265 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,600 UNDERSTAND WHAT'S CURRENTLY 266 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,240 BEING SOLD, INGREDIENTS THAT 267 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,040 MAKE UP THESE PRODUCTS AND TO 268 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,960 REALLY DIVE INTO THE PEER 269 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,920 REVIEWED LITERATURE TO HELP US 270 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,400 BETTER UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY AND 271 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,560 EFFICACY OF THESE INGREDIENTS AS 272 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:31,120 WELL AS TO HELP US ADDRESS ANY 273 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,040 GAPS IN KNOWLEDGE. 274 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,920 THE FOCUS OF THIS PROJECT IS 275 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,720 REALLY TO IMPROVE THE ABILITY TO 276 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,840 RESPOND TO SUCH INQUIRIES WHEN 277 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,480 WE RECEIVE THEM. 278 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,560 ANDREA WILL DISCUSS LATER HOW 279 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:43,880 OPERATION SUPPLEMENT SAFETY TOOK 280 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,520 THIS INFORMATION AND REALLY USES 281 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,160 IT TO EDUCATE OUR END USER. 282 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,440 SO FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, A 283 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,960 TOTAL OF 22 PRODUCTS WERE 284 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,840 TESTED. 285 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,800 ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS HAD BEEN 286 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,440 ASKED ABOUT IN AN ASK THE EXERT 287 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,400 QUERY SUBMITTED THROUGH 288 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,040 OPERATION SUPPLEMENT SAFETY BY 289 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,240 MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS. 290 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,160 EACH PRODUCT WAS PURCHASED AND 291 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,360 SENT TO THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR 292 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,280 NATURAL PRODUCTS RESEARCH AT THE 293 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,760 UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI FOR 294 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,560 ANALYSIS TO VERIFY WHETHER THE 295 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,080 INGREDIENTS LISTED ON THE LABELS 296 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:12,400 WERE ACCURATE. 297 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,920 AND WHAT YOU SEE IS NEARLY 75% 298 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,240 OF THE PRODUCTS HAVE AT LEAST 299 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,560 ONE INGREDIENT CLAIMED ON THE 300 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,320 LABEL THAT WAS NOT DETECTED. 301 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,880 ALSO, MORE THAN 40% OF THE 302 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,800 PRODUCTS CONTAINED AN INGREDIENT 303 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,600 THAT BASED ON REGULATORY 304 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,880 GUIDANCE WE'VE HEARD ABOUT OVER 305 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,440 THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS WOULD 306 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,440 NOT MEET THE DEFINITION OF A 307 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,400 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT. 308 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,400 OR WOULD REQUIRE A NEW DIETARY 309 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,640 INGREDIENT NOTIFICATION, NDIN, 310 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,720 PRIOR TO BEING SOLD, OF WHICH 311 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,000 THERE WAS NOT ONE AT THE TIME. 312 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,600 THIS PROJECT HAS YIELDED FIVE 313 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,400 PEER-REVIEWED PUBLICATIONS 314 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,960 INCLUDING A SYSTEMATIC REVIEW 315 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,160 ANNUAL EXPERTS PANEL 316 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,080 RECOMMENDATION IN ADDITION TO 317 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,320 EDUCATION PRODUCTS WHICH ANDREA 318 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,400 WILL MENTION LATER. 319 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,840 SIMILAR PROJECT IS CURRENTLY 320 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,440 UNDERWAY TO EVALUATE DIETARY 321 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,000 SUPPLEMENTS MARKETED FOR IMMUNE 322 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,120 HEALTH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THE 323 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,800 NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT WE 324 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,680 FIELDED IN THIS AREA HAS 325 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:07,560 INCREASED EXPONENTIALLY SINCE 326 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:09,680 THE START OF THE COVID-19 GLOBAL 327 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:09,960 PANDEMIC. 328 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,920 WHAT THIS IS SHOWING US, OVERALL 329 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,480 THE MAJORITY OF THE 30 PRODUCTS 330 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,080 THAT WE TESTED REALLY HAD 331 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:16,920 INACCURATE LABELS AND CLAIMS 332 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,080 MADE ON ANY OF THESE PRODUCTS 333 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,760 FOR SUPPORTING IMMUNE HEALTH ARE 334 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,000 REALLY NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT 335 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,320 FDA ALLOWS ON DIETARY 336 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:25,640 SUPPLEMENTS. 337 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,920 QUALITY CONTROL MEASURES REALLY 338 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,800 SEEM TO BE INSUFFICIENT FOR THE 339 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,200 MAJORITY OF THESE SELECT 340 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,120 PRODUCTS, YET CLAIMS ON THE 341 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,280 LABEL ARE LIKELY CONVINCING 342 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,920 CONSUMERS TO PURCHASE THE 343 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,480 PRODUCTS. 344 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,200 AND THIS IS CONCERNING GIVEN 345 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,080 THAT THERE'S LITTLE INFORMATION 346 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,920 AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S 347 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,480 ACTUAL BENEFITS FOR THESE. 348 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:49,440 WE'LL HEAR IN THE NEXT 349 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,400 PRESENTATION ABOUT DIETARY 350 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,960 SUPPLEMENTS FOR IMMUNE FUNCTION 351 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:54,760 OR IMMUNITY. 352 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,840 THE LAST PROJECT FOCUSES ON 353 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,200 IMPROVING OMEGA 3 INDEX LEVELS. 354 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,640 DATA FROM OUR LAB AND OTHERS HAS 355 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,000 CONSISTENTLY FOUND THAT MILITARY 356 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,960 SERVICE MEMBERS HAVE LOW LEVELS 357 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,840 OF OMEGA 3s, AS QUANTIFIED BY 358 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,800 THE OMEGA 3 INDEX. 359 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,200 IN GENERAL VALUES ABOVE 8% ARE 360 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,520 CONSIDERED OPTIMAL. 361 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,480 VALUES BELOW 4% ARE CONSIDERED 362 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,400 HIGH RISK, BASED ON 363 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,240 CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE ENDPOINTS 364 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,680 FROM HARRIS AND OTHERS. 365 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:22,600 SERVICE MEMBERS AS WE SEE 366 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,560 GENERALLY FALL RIGHT AROUND 4%, 367 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:27,960 THIS PARTICULAR STUDY IS A 368 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,160 COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE 369 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,160 UNIFORMED SERVICES UNIVERSITY 370 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,600 AND OUR THREE SERVICE ACADEMIES, 371 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,760 WHICH INCLUDE U.S. MILITARY 372 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,560 ACADEMY AT WEST POINT, U.S. 373 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:38,520 NAVAL ACADEMY, IN ANNAPOLIS, AS 374 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,840 WELL AS THE U.S. AIR FORCE 375 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,680 ACADEMY IN COLORADO SPRINGS. 376 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:44,040 THE INTERVENTIONS INVOLVE EITHER 377 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,080 PROVIDING A PERSONALIZED DOSE OF 378 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,160 OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS BASED ON 379 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,280 BASELINE OMEGA 3 VALUES IN FORM 380 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,320 OF A SUPPLEMENT, MODIFYING 381 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,920 CAFETERIA MENUS TO INCLUDE MORE 382 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,080 OMEGA 3 RICH PRODUCTS SUCH AS 383 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,960 EGGS, MEAT, SALAD DRESSINGS AND 384 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:11,000 PEANUT BUTT ER AND DECREASING 385 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,440 OMEGA 6 OR COMBINATION OF BOTH. 386 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,920 IT WILL WRAP UP BY THE END OF 387 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,840 THE CALENDAR YEAR AND WE HOPE TO 388 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,320 SHARE RESULTS NEXT YEAR AT THE 389 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:22,600 SYMPOSIUM. 390 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,520 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. ANDREA 391 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,240 LINDSEY TO BEGIN OUR 392 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,920 CONVERSATION ABOUT ISSUES 393 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,440 ASSOCIATED WITH DIETARY 394 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,840 SUPPLEMENTS IN THE DoD. 395 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,360 >> THANK YOU, JONATHAN. 396 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:35,960 GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. 397 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,000 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO 398 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,400 TALK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT OUR WORK 399 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,600 WITH DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS IN THE 400 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,160 MILITARY AND WE SO APPRECIATE 401 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,240 BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN 402 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,040 THIS YEAR'S PRACTICUM. 403 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,240 SO, I'M GOING TO START TALKING 404 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,080 ABOUT HOW WE KNOW FROM OUR WORK 405 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,120 AND ALSO IN THE DOCUMENTED 406 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,360 ARTICLES THAT SERVICE MEMBERS 407 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,440 ARE A POPULATION AT RISK FOR 408 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,280 ADVERSE EVENTS. 409 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,520 DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR THESE 410 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,360 ADVERSE EVENTS, DIETARY 411 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,320 SUPPLEMENTS CAN POSE A THREAT TO 412 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,760 MILITARY READINESS. 413 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,360 WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF 414 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,200 MISINFORMATION ON THE INTERNET. 415 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,120 WE GET THAT INTEL A LOT FROM OUR 416 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,640 ASK THE EXPERT QUESTIONS. 417 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,280 THIS ALSO INCREASED WITH COVID 418 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,680 AND PURCHASE OF MORE SUPPLEMENTS 419 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,120 VIA THE INTERNET. 420 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,360 CERTAINLY IN THE MILITARY 421 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,040 THERE'S PEER PRESSURE TO TAKE 422 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,920 WHAT OTHERS ARE TAKING, AND WE 423 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,120 KNOW THAT THEY ALSO SHARE 424 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:32,720 INFORMATION. 425 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,600 WE GET QUESTIONS AGAIN THAT SAY, 426 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,480 OH, MY FRIEND TOLD ME TO TAKE 427 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,640 THIS, OR WE GET QUESTIONS FROM A 428 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,960 LEADER WHO WILL SAY THAT SOMEONE 429 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,560 APPROACHED THEM ABOUT A 430 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,440 PARTICULAR SUPPLEMENT. 431 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,880 THE OTHER THING IS WE TRACK 432 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,640 DIRECT MARKETING TO SERVICE 433 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,040 MEMBERS BY SOME DIETARY 434 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,400 SUPPLEMENT MANUFACTURERS. 435 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,640 SOME OFFER DISCOUNTS AND EVEN 436 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,080 FREE TRIALS TO OUR MILITARY 437 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,320 SERVICE MEMBERS. 438 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,160 SO, DUE TO POTENTIAL SAFETY 439 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,520 ISSUES AND QUALITY WITH SOME OF 440 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,920 THE HIGH RISK DIETARY 441 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,080 SUPPLEMENTS, DIRECT MARKETING TO 442 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,440 THE MILITARY IS A CONCERN AS 443 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,440 THESE PRODUCTS COULD PRESENT A 444 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,280 RISK TO THE HEALTH AND CAREERS 445 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,840 OF MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS. 446 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,320 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 447 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,080 SO FDA HAS FOUND CONTAMINANTS 448 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,040 AND ADULTERANTS IN SOME DIETARY 449 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,920 SUPPLEMENT PRODUCTS AND OF 450 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,120 COURSE THEY ARE THEIR TAINTED 451 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,800 PRODUCTS MARKETED AS DIETARY 452 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,600 SUPPLEMENT LIST, AS JONATHAN 453 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,760 MENTIONED WE'VE ALSO TESTED 454 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,320 PRODUCTS AND PUBLISHED RESULTS 455 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,280 AND FOUND CONTAMINANTS AND 456 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:41,720 ADULTERANTS. 457 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,680 FDA AS WE ALL KNOW IS A 458 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,560 REGULATORY AGENCY ON THIS TOPIC. 459 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,240 AND SO WHEN WE ALSO HEAR FROM 460 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:56,040 THEM ABOUT HIDDEN DRUG 461 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,280 INGREDIENTS AND UNDISCLOSED 462 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,680 INGREDIENTS WE TRY TO PUSH THAT 463 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,080 TO THE AUDIENCE. 464 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,280 THEY HAVE SAID THE HIGH RISK 465 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,160 CATEGORIES OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 466 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,080 PRODUCTS ARE BODY BUILDING, 467 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,840 WEIGHT LOSS, SEXUAL ENHANCEMENT 468 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,160 PRODUCTS. 469 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,640 AS JONATHAN MENTIONED, WE HAVE 470 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,840 IDENTIFIED BRAIN HEALTH, 471 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,320 COGNITIVE ENHANCEMENT PRODUCTS 472 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,080 AS ANOTHER HIGH RISK CATEGORY. 473 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,160 ALSO, ANY SUPPLEMENT WITH AN 474 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,040 INGREDIENT ON THE OPERATION 475 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,680 SUPPLEMENT SAFETY LIST OF DoD 476 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,000 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT INGREDIENTS 477 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,160 ARE CONSIDERED HIGH RISK. 478 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,680 I'LL SHOW THAT LIST IN A FEW 479 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:30,920 MINUTES. 480 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,640 SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE 481 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,200 THE POTENTIAL FOR ADVERSE EVENTS 482 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,680 FROM SERVICE MEMBERS TAKING MANY 483 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,640 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS THAT CONTAIN 484 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,480 INGREDIENTS THAT CAN BE 485 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:44,960 DANGEROUS. 486 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,960 THERE'S CONSIDERABLE COST ALSO 487 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,600 WITH THE LOSS OF A SERVICE 488 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,120 MEMBER DUE TO AN ADVERSE EVENT, 489 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,600 IF SOMEONE HAS TO BE MEDEVACED 490 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,040 OUT OF THEATER, CERTAINLY IF WE 491 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,040 HAVE SITUATIONS OF LIVER INJURY, 492 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,360 KIDNEY INJURY, OR DEATH, 493 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,240 THAT'S -- WE DON'T EVEN WANT TO 494 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,800 TALK ABOUT THE COST BECAUSE WE 495 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,080 DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE AN 496 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,560 ADVERSE EVENT HAPPEN. 497 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,440 BUT ALSO IF A SERVICE MEMBERS 498 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,880 POPS POSITIVE A DRUG TEST 499 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,960 POTENTIALLY IS OUT OF SERVICE, 500 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,200 ALL OF THIS IMPACTS THE FORCE. 501 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,960 WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S 502 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,160 CHALLENGING FOR US TO MEASURE 503 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,680 THE BEHAVIOR CHANGE WITH REGARD 504 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,000 TO OUR EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS ON 505 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,240 THIS TOPIC IN THE MILITARY BUT 506 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,240 WE DO KNOW THAT EDUCATION DOES 507 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,120 BRING THE IMPORTANT AWARENESS 508 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:33,600 THAT IS NEEDED. 509 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,320 NEXT SLIDE. 510 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,720 SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS 511 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,160 EXAMPLE, AND IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE 512 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,240 EXAMPLE THAT OCCURRED IN THE 513 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,680 SUMMER OF 2018 AND THAT SENIOR 514 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,080 OFFICER TESTED POSITIVE ON A 515 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:54,640 DRUG TEST, TESTED POSITIVE FOR 516 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:54,960 D-AMPHETAMINE. 517 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,040 HE WANTED TO LOSE WEIGHT FOR A 518 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,160 PHYSICAL FITNESS TEST, SOMETHING 519 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,320 WE HEAR ABOUT ALL THE TIME. 520 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,440 AFTER HE POPPED POSITIVE HE 521 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,880 CONTACTED US, AND ASKED FOR 522 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,080 HELP. 523 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,200 SO, WE SENT THE PRODUCT TO OLE 524 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,880 MISS FOR TESTING. 525 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,720 AS WE KNOW THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW 526 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,600 FOR SURE WHAT'S IN A DIETARY 527 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,120 SUPPLEMENT PRODUCT IS TO HAVE IT 528 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:25,600 TESTED IN AN APPROVED LAB. 529 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,800 NEXT SLIDE. 530 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,640 THANK YOU. 531 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,400 SO THIS IS THE LABEL OF THE 532 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,800 PRODUCT THAT HE WAS TAKING. 533 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,920 NOW, CERTAINLY WE COULD TALK 534 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,600 ABOUT WHAT IS LISTED IN THAT 535 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,200 BLEND, AND THERE'S A FEW 536 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:39,760 STIMULANTS THERE LISTED. 537 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,200 OF COURSE WE COULD TALK ABOUT 538 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:42,680 THAT. 539 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,680 HOWEVER, HE WOULD HAVE 540 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,320 ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE THAT 541 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:53,880 UPON TESTING THIS PRODUCT 542 00:18:53,880 --> 00:19:01,480 CONTAINED LYSINE D AMPHETAMINE, 543 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,120 HE ALMOST LOST HIS CAREER, WAS 544 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:03,960 SIDELINED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT 545 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,000 OF TIME WHERE HE WAS ABLE TO 546 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,880 PROVE IT WAS THE SUPPLEMENT THAT 547 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,000 CAUSED THE POSITIVE TEST. 548 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,240 NOW THAT TAKES US TO OPERATION 549 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:15,920 SUPPLEMENT SAFETY. 550 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,120 I'M GOING TO JUST GIVE YOU A 551 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:23,640 LITTLE BIT OF WINDOW INTO OUR 552 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,040 PROGRAM. 553 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,880 FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT AWARE, 554 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,480 OPERATION SUPPLEMENT SAFETY, 555 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,720 OPSS, IS THE MILITARY'S 556 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,040 EVIDENCE-BASED GO-TO RESOURCE ON 557 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,080 EVERYTHING RELATED TO DIETARY 558 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,560 SUPPLEMENTS. 559 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,240 IN JANUARY 2012 THE ASSISTANT 560 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,960 SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR HEALTH 561 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,760 AFFAIRS REQUESTED A DoD-WIDE 562 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,880 EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN ON DIETARY 563 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,040 SUPPLEMENTS, AND THIS WAS BASED 564 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,000 ON ALL THE ADVERSE EVENTS AND 565 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,640 SOME DEATHS IN THE MILITARY THAT 566 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,840 WERE ASSOCIATED WITH A FEW 567 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:04,200 PRODUCTS THAT CONTAINED THE 568 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,840 SYNTHETIC INGREDIENT DMAA, WE 569 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,520 STILL FIND IT IN SOME PRODUCTS 570 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,400 TODAY ALTHOUGH ILLEGAL. 571 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,600 WE HAVE MANY APPROACHES ARE 572 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,400 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS AND WE ARE 573 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,160 THE ONLY ENTITY IN THE MILITARY 574 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,160 EDUCATING ON THIS TOPIC. 575 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,040 SO WE'RE THE SINGLE 576 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,800 AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE FOR OUR 577 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,040 PROVIDERS, FOR EXAMPLE. 578 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,040 AND CERTAINLY OPSS.ORG IS A BIG 579 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,280 PIECE OF THIS EFFORT WITH OUR 580 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,440 EVIDENCE-BASED INFOGRAPHICS, 581 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,800 POSITION STATEMENTS, GRAPHICS 582 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,160 VIDEOS, AND OTHER INFORMATION. 583 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,520 NEXT SLIDE. 584 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,320 THANK YOU. 585 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,800 WELL, THIS WAS VERY EXCITING FOR 586 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,560 US ON MARCH 9 THE DEPARTMENT OF 587 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,160 DEFENSE INSTRUCTION WHICH WE 588 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,600 REFER TO AS THE DODI ON USE OF 589 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,200 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS IN THE 590 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,240 MILITARY WAS ISSUED AND WE HAD 591 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,360 NO IDEA WHEN THIS WAS GOING TO 592 00:20:58,360 --> 00:20:59,240 BE SIGNED. 593 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,000 THIS WAS IN THE WORKS FOR MANY, 594 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,280 MANY YEARS. 595 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,160 DUE TO THE FREQUENCY OF DIETARY 596 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,160 SUPPLEMENTS USE BY SERVICE 597 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,360 MEMBERS, OVERALL DoD POLICY 598 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,880 WAS NEEDED TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE 599 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,880 TO ENSURE SAFE DIETARY 600 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,440 SUPPLEMENT USE AND TO MINIMIZE 601 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,480 THE RISK TO THE FORCE OF 602 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,000 POTENTIAL LIFE-THREATENING 603 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,640 ADVERSE EVENTS RESULTING IN 604 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,520 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT USE. 605 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,920 ALSO, TO PREVENT SOME POTENTIAL 606 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,080 DISCIPLINARY ACTIONs WE NOW 607 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,080 HAVE THIS DODI. 608 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,040 AND ON THE NEXT SCREEN, WHAT 609 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,880 DOES THE DODI SAY? 610 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,480 IT FORMALIZED OPERATION 611 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,680 SUPPLEMENT SAFETY AS GO-TO DoD 612 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,760 PROGRAM FOR EVERYTHING ON 613 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,720 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS. 614 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,120 SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE 615 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,560 WAITING FOR. 616 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,280 WE ALSO HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT 617 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,480 WHEN WE STARTED OPERATION 618 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,200 SUPPLEMENT SAFETY IN 2010, 2011, 619 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,240 WE WERE AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN. 620 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,840 AND NOW WE AN ESTABLISHED 621 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,080 PROGRAM. 622 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,240 IT ALSO REQUIRES DIETARY 623 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,520 SUPPLEMENT EDUCATION FOR SERVICE 624 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:06,760 MEMBERS. 625 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,880 WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS ALL ALONG, 626 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,560 AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. 627 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,240 AND IT ALSO REQUIRES EDUCATION 628 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,920 FOR ANYONE WHO PROVIDES 629 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,720 HEALTH-RELATED SERVICES TO THE 630 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,680 SERVICE MEMBER. 631 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520 SO THAT INCLUDES HEALTH 632 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,160 PROMOTION SPECIALISTS, FITNESS 633 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,360 LEADERS, ATHLETIC TRAINERS, 634 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,000 STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING 635 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,320 SPECIALISTS, OF COURSE OUR 636 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,960 HEALTH CARE PERSONNEL, CLINICAL 637 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,600 DIETITIANS, ET CETERA. 638 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,120 FOR THESE GROUPS WE'RE 639 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,240 DEVELOPING A HEALTH PROFESSIONAL 640 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,840 MODULE AND I'LL MENTION THAT IN 641 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,080 A FEW MINUTES. 642 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,680 IT ALSO MANDATES ADVERSE EVENT 643 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,840 REPORTING BY HEALTH CARE 644 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,480 PROVIDERS AND I QUOTE, THE 645 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,680 REPORTING ADVERSE EVENTS FIELD 646 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,560 ON THE OPSS WEBSITE AND IN THE 647 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,120 ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD. 648 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,800 THIS IS NOW A VERY BIG EFFORT 649 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:02,080 FOR US, AND THAT WILL BE AN 650 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:02,760 ONGOING CONVERSATION. 651 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 FINALLY, IT PROVIDES THE DoD 652 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,400 PROHIBITED DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 653 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,440 INGREDIENT LIST WHICH IS 654 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,120 AVAILABLE ON THE MAIN PAGE OF 655 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:14,080 OPSS, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT ON 656 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,080 THE NEXT SLIDE. 657 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:21,560 HERE YOU SEE OUR REVISED HOME 658 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,720 PAGE, THE WHITE RECTANGLE, 659 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,520 ANALYTICS SHOW MAJORITY OF USERS 660 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,720 ARE ON THE MOBILE DEVICE. 661 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,680 SO WE REDESIGNED THE WEBSITE TO 662 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,120 MAKE IT MOBILE FRIENDLY. 663 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:34,080 I MENTIONED DoD PROHIBITED 664 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,280 LIST. 665 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,160 YOU SEE THAT. 666 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,440 USERS CAN CLICK ON THAT, I'LL 667 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,720 SHOW AN EXAMPLE IN A MINUTE. 668 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,880 ONCE THE DODI WAS SIGNED WE HAD 669 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,680 TO CHANGE THE LAYOUT OF THIS 670 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:50,280 VERY QUICKLY AND YOU SEE THAT 671 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,400 ATTENTION NEW DODI, IT TAKES YOU 672 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720 TO A LANDING PAGE WITH QUESTIONS 673 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,160 AND ANSWER WITH THE DODI AND A 674 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,880 PICTURE TO CLICK ON AND THE DODI 675 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 DOWN LOADS ON THEIR DESKTOP. 676 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,920 A-Z INDEX IS A QUICK WAY TO GO 677 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,400 TO EVIDENCE-BASED INFORMATION ON 678 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,040 CREATINE, CAFFEINE, ASHWAGANDHA, 679 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,240 MANY RESOURCES. 680 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,480 REPORT SIDE EFFECTS TAKES A USER 681 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,440 DIRECTLY TO THE HHS-FDA SAFETY 682 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,480 REPORTING PORTAL. 683 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,040 CHECK YOUR SUPPLEMENT, I'LL SHOW 684 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000 YOU THAT'S OUR INTERACTIVE SCORE 685 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,920 CARD AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE 686 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:31,720 LANDING PAGE OF THE "ASK THE 687 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,320 EXPERT" PORTAL. 688 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,960 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 689 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,200 THIS IS DIFFICULT TO SEE BUT 690 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,400 IT'S JUST TO SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE 691 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,720 OF THE LANDING PAGE FOR AN 692 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,000 INGREDIENT THAT WAS SEARCHED. 693 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,080 WE'RE SHOWING DMHA, A SYNTHETIC 694 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,160 INGREDIENT NOT ALLOWED IN 695 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,600 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS. 696 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,160 WE SEE IT A LOT IN DIETARY 697 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,000 SUPPLEMENT PRODUCTS. 698 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,160 SO YOU SEE THE LIST OF SYNONYMS 699 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,360 THERE. 700 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,280 WE SEE SOME OF THE OTHER NAMES 701 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,960 ON DIETARY SUPPLEMENT PRODUCTS 702 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:00,760 LABELS. 703 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,880 YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW 704 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,720 CHALLENGING THIS IS FOR A 705 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,200 SERVICE MEMBER TO NAVIGATE THIS. 706 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,720 NOW THERE ARE OVER 800 707 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,760 SUBSTANCES ON OUR PROHIBITED 708 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,640 LIST. 709 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,640 AND ABOUT 1700 SYNONYMS. 710 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,360 THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT, WE KNOW. 711 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,560 WE'RE IMPROVING OUR SEARCH 712 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,800 FUNCTION AS WE SPEAK. 713 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,400 AND I'LL TALK TO YOU IN A MINUTE 714 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,760 ABOUT THE APP WE'RE DEVELOPING. 715 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,440 SO, A SERVICE MEMBER HAS TO TAKE 716 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,400 THEIR SUPPLEMENTS AND LOOK UP 717 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,480 INGREDIENTS NOW BECAUSE OF THE 718 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,800 DODI TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T 719 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,560 CONSUME A PRODUCT WITH A 720 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,160 PROHIBITED INGREDIENT. 721 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,480 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 722 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,680 SO THIS IS OUR PDF LITTLE SCORE 723 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,760 CARD OF OUR ALGORITHM, AND WE'VE 724 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,000 HAD THIS FOR MANY YEARS. 725 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000 SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS 726 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,800 BEFORE AND HOPEFULLY USED THIS. 727 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,680 THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL IN THE 728 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,760 TOOLBOX FOR -- TO EDUCATE ABOUT 729 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,160 RELATIVE RISK OF A PARTICULAR 730 00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,640 PRODUCT. 731 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,000 WE KNOW THAT NAVIGATING 732 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,720 INGREDIENTS AND DIETARY 733 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,040 SUPPLEMENTS CAN BE VERY 734 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,920 CHALLENGING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 735 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,520 PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DIETARY 736 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:08,840 SUPPLEMENTS. 737 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,080 THERE ARE MANY STEPS A HEALTH 738 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,240 CARE PROVIDER AND SERVICE MEMBER 739 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,440 NEED TO TAKE TO EVALUATE A 740 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,120 PRODUCT FOR SAFETY. 741 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:20,080 NOW SINCE THE DODI HAS BEEN 742 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,280 SIGNED, A SERVICE MEMBER FIRST 743 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,040 HAS TO CHECK DOES MY PRODUCT 744 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,840 HAVE AN INGREDIENT ON THAT 745 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,480 PROHIBITED LIST? 746 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,080 IF IT DOES NOT, THIS IS A GREAT 747 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,080 TOOL TO USE TO ASSESS THE 748 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,240 RELATIVE SAFETY. 749 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,120 SO IT'S SEVEN QUESTIONS, AN 750 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,280 ANSWER OF YES SCORES A 1, NO 751 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,800 SCORES A 0, PRODUCT SCORING LESS 752 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,240 THAN 4 ARE CONSIDERED RISKY. 753 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,920 PRODUCTS WITH A SCORE OF 4 OR 754 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,760 BETTER ARE CONSIDERED LESS 755 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,720 RISKY. 756 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,160 NEXT SLIDE. 757 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,640 HERE'S THE INTERACTIVE VERSION 758 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,360 FROM THAT WHITE RECTANGLE ON THE 759 00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:58,920 MAIN PAGE, CHECK YOUR 760 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,920 SUPPLEMENT, IT WILL ADD IT FOR 761 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,120 USERS. 762 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,200 SO HERE IS WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU 763 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,880 CLICK ON RESOURCES. 764 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,600 YOU GET THE OPTION FOR OUTREACH 765 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,240 AND EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, WHICH 766 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,080 HAS, AGAIN, VIDEOS, 767 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,920 EVIDENCE-BASED ARTICLES, 768 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,640 HANDOUTS, POSITION STATEMENTS, 769 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,720 ET CETERA. 770 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,520 WE'RE SHOWING YOU THESE TICKED 771 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,160 INDICATION MATERIALS BECAUSE IN 772 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,480 THE MILITARY RIGHT NOW THERE'S A 773 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,600 HUGE PUSH TO EDUCATE ON ENERGY 774 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:32,840 DRINKS. 775 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,800 WE KNOW MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS 776 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,200 ARE USING ENERGY DRINKS, AND IN 777 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,080 FACT WHEN WE DO IN-PERSON 778 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,920 PRESENTATIONS WE ALWAYS HAVE 779 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,000 SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAS 780 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,120 AN ENERGY DRINK, AND IT'S A 781 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:45,440 GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, SHOW 782 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520 ME AND FIND THE AMOUNT OF 783 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,560 CAFFEINE IN THAT ENERGY DRINK. 784 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,600 SO WE UPDATED OUR PROMO ON 785 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,680 ENERGY DRINKS TO INCLUDE ENERGY 786 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,880 SHOTS, YOU'RE SEEING THAT ON THE 787 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,840 LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN. 788 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,560 AND IN THE MILITARY CBD AND HEMP 789 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,960 ARE NOT ALLOWED, THEY ARE 790 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,080 PROHIBITED INGREDIENTS. 791 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600 THIS IS VERY CHALLENGING FOR US 792 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,800 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT 793 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800 OF PRODUCTS, A LOT OF FOOD 794 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,720 PRODUCTS, THERE'S A LOT OF 795 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,680 PRODUCTS IN GENERAL WITH HEMP AN 796 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,160 CBD BUT THESE ARE PROHIBITED 797 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,080 INGREDIENTS. 798 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,800 WE DEVELOPED THAT PROMO FOR OUR 799 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,440 AUDIENCE AND THAT'S AVAILABLE ON 800 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,200 OPERATION SUPPLEMENT SAFETY. 801 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,600 RECENTLY, WE POSTED THIS ON OUR 802 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,680 SOCIAL MEDIA AS THIS BECAME AN 803 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,240 ISSUE IN THE NAVY AND THEY 804 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,320 PUSHED OUT INFORMATION ABOUT 805 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,120 ROCK STAR UNPLUGGED BECAUSE IT 806 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,960 CONTAINS HEMP SEED OIL. 807 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,280 AND THERE'S CONCERN IT MIGHT 808 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,640 RESULT IN A POSITIVE DRUG TEST. 809 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120 SO, VERY RARELY WILL WE EVER 810 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,480 PUSH OUT INFORMATION ABOUT A 811 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,720 BRAND NAME PRODUCT. 812 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,000 WE GOT THIS APPROVED ONLY 813 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,280 BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS IS A 814 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,720 WARNING TO OUR SERVICE MEMBERS 815 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,120 TO NOT USE THIS PRODUCT OR ANY 816 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,440 OTHER PRODUCT THAT CONTAINS 817 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:05,480 HEMP, HEMP SEED OIL, OR CBD. 818 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,160 SO DR. SCOTT TALKED ABOUT THE 819 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,600 BRAIN HEALTH INITIATIVE. 820 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040 WE PACKAGED UP ALL THOSE 821 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,160 EVIDENCE-BASED ARTICLES INTO THE 822 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,400 BRAIN HEALTH GUIDE WHICH IS WHAT 823 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,600 YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN AS 824 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,360 ANOTHER WAY TO PUSH OUT OUR 825 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,840 RESOURCES ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 826 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,880 YOU SEE THE REAL FOODS PROMO 827 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,320 THAT WE JUST UPDATED ON THE 828 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,960 RIGHT OF THE SCREEN. 829 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,200 AND THAT IS OF COURSE DUE TO 830 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440 COVID-19, THERE'S A LOT OF 831 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,640 REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION ABOUT 832 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,560 THOSE TYPES OF PROMOS, AND AS HE 833 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,640 MENTIONED, WHEN THE IMMUNE 834 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,000 FUNCTION PROJECT FINISHES AND WE 835 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,640 HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM THAT 836 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,440 STUDY, WE WILL TAKE THAT 837 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,480 INFORMATION AND WRITE 838 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,400 EVIDENCE-BASED ARTICLES AND 839 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,400 PACKAGE IT AGAIN INTO AN IMMUNE 840 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,240 HEALTH GUIDE FOR OPERATION 841 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,080 SUPPLEMENT SAFETY. 842 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:10,280 HERE IS THE LANDING PAGE OF OUR 843 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,840 "ASK THE EXPERT" PORTAL, THEY 844 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,240 MAY BE A CIVILIAN OR SERVICE 845 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,240 MEMBER OR HEALTH PROVIDER. 846 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,680 THEY TELL US IF THEY ARE A 847 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:17,920 LEADER. 848 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,000 WE'RE VERY CAREFUL OF COURSE TO 849 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,200 KEEP THE INFORMATION PRIVATE. 850 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,440 SINCE THE DODI WAS SIGNED, WE 851 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,520 WENT FROM AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 65 852 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,440 TO 80 ASK THE EXPERT QUESTIONS 853 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,400 TO OVER 200. 854 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,720 WE ANSWER ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS 855 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,480 WITHIN 7 BUSINESS DAYS. 856 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,920 THEY ARE ALL EVIDENCE-BASED. 857 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,520 IF IT'S A QUESTION ABOUT A 858 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,960 PRODUCT, WE WILL GO TO THE 859 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,040 MARKETING WEBSITE. 860 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,800 AND WE WILL TELL THE PERSON IN 861 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,240 THE ANSWER THAT THIS IS BASED ON 862 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,280 WHAT WE CAN FIND ON THE 863 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,720 MARKETING WEBSITE BY THE LABEL 864 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:50,920 ALONE. 865 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,000 THEY ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW IS THIS 866 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,760 PRODUCT SAFE, AM I GOING TO POP 867 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,120 POSITIVE. 868 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,000 OF COURSE WE CAN'T REALLY ANSWER 869 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,840 IF THE PRODUCT WILL BE SAFE OR 870 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,200 NOT. 871 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,320 AND WE DO EDUCATE ON THEIR 872 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,840 PARTY'S CERTIFICATION. 873 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,640 WE HAVE A BIG PRESENCE, WE TRY 874 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,320 TO HAVE A BIG PRESENCE ON SOCIAL 875 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,760 MEDIA. 876 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,760 I KNOW WE SHARE INFORMATION 877 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,600 THAT'S PUSHED OUT FROM THE 878 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,400 OFFICE OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS. 879 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,480 AND IF ANYONE FOLLOWS ME ON MY 880 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,080 PERSONAL PAGE ON LINKED IN, I 881 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,760 ALSO PUSH OUT INFORMATION FROM 882 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,280 OPERATION SUPPLEMENT SAFETY AND 883 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,440 OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS. 884 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,760 AND AS I MENTIONED, IT'S NOT 885 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,480 JUST WHAT WE DO ON OPSS.ORG BUT 886 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,680 ACROSS THE ENTIRE DIGITAL 887 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:35,960 PLATFORM. 888 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400 YOU SEE A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT 889 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,680 WE RECENTLY PUSHED OUT. 890 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,560 PLEASE FOLLOW US. 891 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,400 ALSO SIGN UP FOR OUR NEWSLETTER 892 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,120 ON THE MAIN PAGE OF OPSS AT THE 893 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,600 BOTTOM. 894 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,360 WHAT IS NEXT? 895 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,040 WELL, WE WILL CONTINUE OF COURSE 896 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,560 TO PROVIDE MORE EVIDENCE-BASED 897 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,040 INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE BUT 898 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,160 WE HAVE SOME HUGE INITIATIVES 899 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,000 PER THE DODI. 900 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,520 ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE SEE JUST A 901 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,920 LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF THE MODULE 902 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,520 WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON. 903 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,880 SO THE MODULE HAS FIVE SECTIONS. 904 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080 AGAIN, THIS IS MANDATED IN THE 905 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,720 DODI. 906 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,000 AND WE PROBABLY WILL NOT HAVE 907 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920 THIS READY UNTIL THE END OF THE 908 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,760 FIRST QUARTER OF 2023, THE LINK 909 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000 WILL BE ON OPERATION SUPPLEMENT 910 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,640 SAFETY, AND ANYONE WILL BE ABLE 911 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,760 TO TAKE THE MODULE. 912 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,600 YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A 913 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,000 MILITARY CARD OR SOMETHING. 914 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,160 THAT'S OUR INTENT WITH CEUs 915 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440 BUT WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING THE 916 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,120 CONTENT. 917 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,600 I KNOW THAT FDA IS GETTING READY 918 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,560 TO LAUNCH THEIR HEALTH 919 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,160 PROFESSIONAL AND CONSUMER 920 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,640 INFORMATION ON DIETARY 921 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,360 SUPPLEMENTS, THEY TEAMED UP WITH 922 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,840 AMA. 923 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,400 WE WILL OF COURSE INCORPORATE 924 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:55,040 ANY OF THAT NEW INFORMATION IN 925 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,280 THE MODULE. 926 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,040 I RECENTLY PRESENTED ON OUR OPSS 927 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,920 INGREDIENT DATABASE, OPPS I.D. 928 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,960 AT THE NUTRIENT DATABASE 929 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,280 CONFERENCE. 930 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,880 AND THIS DATABASE WE NOW HAVE, 931 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,200 WE CREATED BACK IN 2020 TO 932 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,840 SUPPORT THE EFFORT WE'RE WORKING 933 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920 ON, BUT WE HAD NO IDEA HOW BIG 934 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,840 IT WAS GOING TO GET, AND THAT IT 935 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,600 WAS GOING TO BE SO CRITICAL IN 936 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,680 HELPING US UPDATE AND POPULATE 937 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,360 LIST OF DoD-PROHIBITED DIETARY 938 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,280 SUPPLEMENT INGREDIENTS. 939 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:37,640 WE NOW HAVE A BIND BOGGLING 1400 940 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:43,760 INGREDIENTS AND 8,000 SYNONYMS 941 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,040 FOR EACH, WE'RE METICULOUS ABOUT 942 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,160 TRACKING BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL ASK 943 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,440 QUESTIONS. 944 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,320 WE'LL AT SOME POINT USE THIS 945 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,280 INGREDIENT DATABASE HOPEFULLY ON 946 00:33:52,280 --> 00:34:01,000 THE WEBSITE BUT AGAIN RIGHT NOW, 947 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,720 ONE IS THE PROHIBITED LIST, TWO 948 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,520 IS THE APP WE'RE W ON. 949 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,800 NEXT SLIDE. 950 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,840 THANK YOU. 951 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,800 SO, THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF 952 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 HOW WE LEFT OUR APPS. 953 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,440 WE HAD TO STOP WORKING ON IT FOR 954 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,520 A FEW MONTHS, DO A CHANGE IN 955 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,360 I.T. CONTRACTS, AND IT'S CALLED 956 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,920 OPSSUPP, WE'LL RESUME WORK IN 957 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,000 JULY, AND HOPEFULLY OUR SERVICE 958 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,480 MEMBERS AND AUDIENCE WILL BE 959 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,920 ABLE TO SCAN A SUPPLEMENT. 960 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,880 WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE 961 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,720 BARCODE FOR ALL SUPPLEMENTS ON 962 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:38,360 THE MARKET, OF COURSE, BUT WE 963 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,160 HOPE THAT SERVICE MEMBERS WILL 964 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,160 BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THE 965 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,560 PROHIBITED LIST OF INGREDIENTS, 966 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,000 MUCH EASIER WITH THE APP. 967 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,520 I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DIG INTO 968 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,200 OUR RATINGS SYSTEM. 969 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,040 WE HAVE RATINGS SYSTEM IN THE 970 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,600 APP, BUT HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR AT 971 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,760 THE PRACTICUM I WILL DO A LIVE 972 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,240 DEMO OF OUR RECENTLY LAUNCHED 973 00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,680 APP AND I DO WANT TO THANK THE 974 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,880 OFFICE OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS. 975 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,440 WE'RE WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH 976 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,120 THE DIETARY SUPPLEMENT LABEL 977 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,480 DATABASE, USING THEIR API AND WE 978 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,760 SO APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP AS 979 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,600 WE TRY TO BUILD OUT THIS APP. 980 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,720 NEXT SLIDE. 981 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:18,840 SO THERE'S OUR CONTACT 982 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,720 INFORMATION. 983 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:21,400 AGAIN, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 984 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,000 THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU 985 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,120 ALL TODAY. 986 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,440 PLEASE REACH OUT TO US AS YOU 987 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,840 LEAVE TODAY, IF YOU THINK OF A 988 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,280 QUESTION. 989 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,880 WE'RE ALWAYS HERE TO HELP SO 990 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,240 THANK YOU AGAIN. 991 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:38,520 >> THANK YOU, ANDREA. 992 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,000 AND JONATHAN. 993 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,720 WHAT A WONDERFUL OVERVIEW. 994 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:45,040 YOU HAVE SO MUCH MATERIAL, SO 995 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,080 MUCH INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH 996 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,160 US ALL. 997 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,200 ONE QUESTION, ANDREA, I WANT YOU 998 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,400 TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE POSTERS 999 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,040 AND FLYERS AND SOME 1000 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,080 COMMUNICATIONS THAT YOU 1001 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,080 DEVELOPED, THEY ARE AVAILABLE 1002 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,920 FOR ANYONE, IS THAT RIGHT? 1003 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:00,440 >> THAT'S CORRECT. 1004 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,120 >> TO DOWNLOAD FROM THE WEBSITE? 1005 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,440 >> THAT'S CORRECT. 1006 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,440 SOME OF THEM ARE EASILY 1007 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,320 PRINTABLE FROM A LOCAL COMPUTER. 1008 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,400 WE ALSO HAVE THEM IN THE 1009 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,760 e-CATALOG AT THE ARMY PUBLIC 1010 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,640 HEALTH CENTER, AND IF ANYONE HAS 1011 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,080 ANY TROUBLE GETTING ANY OF OUR 1012 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,600 PROMOS PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME 1013 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:18,960 DIRECTLY. 1014 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,560 >> GREAT. 1015 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:19,760 OKAY. 1016 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,240 WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE 1017 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:23,920 CHAT. 1018 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,680 DR. DWYER AND I WERE TYPING THE 1019 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,200 SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE SAME 1020 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,040 TIME. 1021 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,400 IS FDA DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE 1022 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,240 PRODUCTS YOU FIND ARE VIOLATING 1023 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:37,960 BY NOT LABELING THE INGREDIENTS 1024 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920 OR HAVING UNLABELED INGREDIENTS? 1025 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,480 >> YES, THEY ARE. 1026 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,560 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE JUST MET 1027 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,240 WITH THEM YESTERDAY, TWO DAYS 1028 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:48,560 AGO, AND WE SHARE ALL OF OUR 1029 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,200 INFORMATION WITH THEM. 1030 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,840 AND SOME OF THESE HAVE RESULTED 1031 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,280 IN WARNING LETTERS. 1032 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,920 AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEND 1033 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,800 THEM AS WE UNCOVER THINGS, AS WE 1034 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,800 WRITE AN ASK THE EXPERT ANSWER 1035 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,600 CAN SEE HOW IT'S LABELED IN THE 1036 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,840 MARKETING WEBSITE AND SHARE NOT 1037 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,640 ONLY WITH FDA BUT WE SHARE WITH 1038 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,160 FTC AND DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, 1039 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,960 AND DEA. 1040 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,520 >> GREAT. 1041 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,040 WONDERFUL TO KNOW. 1042 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,640 DR. SCOTT, YOU INTRODUCED 1043 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,520 MILITARY SURVEYS ONGOING, I 1044 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,960 WONDER IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO ARE 1045 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,840 THERE -- THERE MAY HAVE BEEN 1046 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,880 SOME SURVEYS DONE IN THE 1047 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,720 MILITARY ACADEMY. 1048 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,600 HOW DO WE EDUCATE THOSE IN 1049 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,760 MILITARY ACADEMIES AN GET THEY 1050 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,400 WILL WHILE THEY ARE YOUNG? 1051 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,640 >> A GREAT POINT AND GREAT 1052 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,200 QUESTION THAT REALLY OUR 1053 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,520 EDUCATION NEEDS TO TRANSCEND A 1054 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,720 SERVICE MEMBER'S CAREER, NOT 1055 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,240 ONLY THOSE AT OUR SERVICE 1056 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:48,960 ACADEMIES THAT WILL BE 1057 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,520 COMMISSIONED OFFICERS, BUT ALSO 1058 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,400 WITH OUR ENLISTED PERSONNEL 1059 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,280 DURING INITIAL TRAINING. 1060 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,840 AT MAIN OF OUR INITIAL ENTRY 1061 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,560 TRAINING SITES THE USE OF 1062 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,360 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS ARE NOT 1063 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,320 PERMITTED, AND SO IT'S REALLY 1064 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,240 FINDING THAT SWEET SPOT AS FAR 1065 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,480 AS WHEN AND HOW TO EDUCATE OUR 1066 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,160 SERVICE MEMBERS ON DIETARY 1067 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,600 SUPPLEMENTS. 1068 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,680 WHAT WE'VE SHOWN IN SOME OF OUR 1069 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040 DATA, THOSE THAT ARE GOING 1070 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,640 THROUGH OUR MILITARY ENTRANCING 1071 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,440 PROCESSING STATION, MEP STATION, 1072 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,320 THE LAST MEDICAL CHECK BEFORE 1073 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680 YOU SHIP OFF TO YOUR BOOT CAMP 1074 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,240 OR YOUR INITIAL MILITARY 1075 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,400 TRAINING FOR OUR ENLISTED 1076 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,480 PERSONNEL, THE PREVALENCE OF 1077 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,120 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT USE IS ONLY 1078 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,360 AROUND 25 TO MAYBE 30%. 1079 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,120 AND AS INDIVIDUALS SINCE THEN 1080 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,560 GRADUATE FROM THEIR INITIAL 1081 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,880 MILITARY TRAINING AND MOVE ON TO 1082 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,000 THEIR NEXT PHASE OF TRAINING, 1083 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,760 WHERE HAPPENS DIETARY 1084 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,960 SUPPLEMENTS MAY BE PERMITTED, 1085 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,680 THAT PREVALENCE DOESN'T CHANGE 1086 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,480 MUCH, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME 1087 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,000 THAT CHANGE DOES OCCUR. 1088 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,280 CONSISTENTLY WE AND OTHERS HAVE 1089 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920 SHOWN THAT THE PREVALENCE IS 1090 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,560 ABOUT 75% OF SERVICE MEMBERS 1091 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,400 REGARDLESS OF GENDER, REGARDLESS 1092 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,560 OF SERVICE. 1093 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,680 SO CLEARLY THERE IS A NEED FOR 1094 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080 EDUCATION AT THAT POINT IN TIME 1095 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,160 TO HELP INDIVIDUALS TO BECOME 1096 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,360 INFORMED USERS. 1097 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:08,640 >> GREAT. 1098 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,520 NOW, SOME OF THAT USE MIGHT BE 1099 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,160 FOR MULTI-VITAMINS OR, SAY, 1100 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,440 CALCIUM SUPPLEMENTS? 1101 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,600 >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 1102 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,840 IT COVERS THAT FULL SPECTRUM. 1103 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,840 SO CERTAINLY MULTI-VITAMINS ARE 1104 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,240 VERY COMMON, FISH OILS ARE VERY 1105 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:28,680 COMMON, BUT AS WE HAVE SEEN 1106 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,880 RECENTLY THE COGNITIVE 1107 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,880 ENHANCEMENT BRAIN HEALTH 1108 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,400 PRODUCTS HAVE CERTAINLY BECOME 1109 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,440 MORE POPULAR AS OF LATE. 1110 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,640 OUR PRODUCTS MARKETS FOR 1111 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,520 PRE-WORKOUT ARE VERY COMMON. 1112 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,120 PRODUCTS MARKETED FOR WEIGHT 1113 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,760 LOSS, RECOVERY, CONTINUE TO BE 1114 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,640 AMONGST THE MOST COMMON 1115 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,360 SUPPLEMENTS THAT FOLKS USE. 1116 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,600 REALLY THOSE WE'RE MORE 1117 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,040 CONCERNED ABOUT. 1118 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,360 IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE 1119 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,240 MULTI-VITAMINS OR PRENATAL 1120 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,040 VITAMINS OR INDIVIDUAL VITAMINS. 1121 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,280 >> SINCE YOU MENTIONED FISH OIL, 1122 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,280 WE HAVE A QUESTION, IT WAS 1123 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,080 MENTIONED THAT CONGRESS HAS 1124 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,720 ASKED ABOUT OMEGA 3 LEVELS. 1125 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:14,800 WHAT OR WHY IS THIS AN EXPRESS 1126 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,600 CONCERN BY CONGRESS? 1127 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,680 >> GREAT QUESTION. 1128 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:23,160 I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THEIR 1129 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:23,960 QUESTION IS COMING FROM, OTHER 1130 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,760 THAN THEY ARE LOOKING AT 1131 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,200 LITERATURE THAT SUGGESTS AS MUCH 1132 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,280 AS MEMBERS HAVE LOW LEVELS OR 1133 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,760 SUBOPTIMAL LEVELS OF OMEGA 3, 1134 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,920 AND SO AGAIN REALLY THE INTENT 1135 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,960 WITH THAT INTERVENTION IS TO SEE 1136 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,520 CAN WE TAKE THE FOOD-FIRST 1137 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,320 APPROACH AND CHANGE OMEGA 3 1138 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,360 INDEX LEVELS IN A POSITIVE 1139 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,360 MANNER SIMPLY ALTERING THE FOODS 1140 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,560 BEING SERVED IN THE DINING 1141 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,800 FACILITY OR IS THERE PERHAPS A 1142 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,800 NEED FOR USE OF DIETARY 1143 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,600 SUPPLEMENTS OR IS IT THE 1144 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,040 COMBINATION. 1145 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,840 THERE'S SOME INTEREST IN THE 1146 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,760 BRAIN HEALTH AREA, THERE'S SOME 1147 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,720 EMERGING EVIDENCE IN THERE AS 1148 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,600 FAR AS EITHER TREATMENT OR 1149 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,920 PROPHYLACTICALLY BEING USED FOR 1150 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,760 TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY. 1151 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,920 MANY SERVICE MEMBERS MAY BE 1152 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,640 EXPOSED TO, ALBEIT MILD, 1153 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,960 TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY 1154 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,080 THROUGHOUT THE CAREER AND COULD 1155 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:27,360 THIS BE USED AS A MEANS TO 1156 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,560 EITHER BE USED PROPHYLACTICALLY 1157 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,800 OR USED TO HELP IMPROVE BRAIN 1158 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,240 HEALTH DURING THAT TIME PERIOD 1159 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:36,440 REMAINS TO BE SEEN. 1160 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,480 >> THIS QUESTION MAY BE FOR 1161 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:41,720 ANDREA. 1162 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,520 AND A WRITER IS ASKING IF 1163 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,320 THERE'S SOME WAY THAT THEY CAN 1164 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,160 LOAD EVIDENCE-BASED INFORMATION 1165 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,480 INTO THE DODI OR MAYBE ANOTHER 1166 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,720 PORTAL ON DIFFERENT INGREDIENTS 1167 00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,360 AND PRODUCTS. 1168 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,440 >> WELL, BECAUSE THE DODI IS A 1169 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,000 DoD-WIDE REGULATION THAT 1170 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,640 WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE. 1171 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,640 THOSE ARE ISSUED AND THEN THEY 1172 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,000 ARE GOOD FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS, BUT 1173 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,360 THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE DO ON 1174 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,400 OPERATION SUPPLEMENT SAFETY WHEN 1175 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,240 WE'RE ABLE TO PULL ALL THE 1176 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:17,560 LITERATURE AND WRITE AND 1177 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,720 EVIDENCE-BASED ARTICLE ABOUT AN 1178 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:20,480 INGREDIENT. 1179 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,120 THE INGREDIENT DATABASE AND 1180 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,080 THEREFORE THEN THE APP WILL HAVE 1181 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,840 BEHIND IT THAT EVIDENCE-BASED 1182 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,880 INFORMATION ON THE INGREDIENTS. 1183 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,080 AND AS I MENTIONED, I DIDN'T 1184 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,480 HAVE TIME TO GET INTO THE 1185 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,360 DIFFERENT RATINGS, BUT THAT'S 1186 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,160 ALL BASED ON IT'S GOING TO BE 1187 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,840 GREEN, RED, YELLOW, AND THEN 1188 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,360 GRAY. 1189 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,880 THAT'S BASED ON THE SCIENTIFIC 1190 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,600 LITERATURE. 1191 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,480 >> OKAY. 1192 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,320 GREAT. 1193 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,720 AND HOW ARE THE ASK THE EXPERTS 1194 00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:54,720 EDUCATED ABOUT NEW INGREDIENTS 1195 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,880 THAT COME ON THE MARKETPLACE? 1196 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,600 IT'S A NEVER-ENDING TRAIL OF 1197 00:42:59,600 --> 00:42:59,960 THESE PRODUCTS. 1198 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,480 HOW DO YOU KEEP UP WITH THEM? 1199 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,440 >> IT IS A NEVER-ENDING TRAIL. 1200 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:10,200 I CAN TELL YOU FROM NOW HAVING 1201 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,920 OUR ASK THE EXPERT QUESTIONS 1202 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,480 DOUBLE, LAST MONTH WE LOOKED UP 1203 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,000 172 PRODUCTS, SOME OF WHICH 1204 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,760 WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. 1205 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,280 AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, I'VE 1206 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,720 BEEN ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS 1207 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:25,360 FOR 10 YEARS, AND WE HAVE A VERY 1208 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,200 SMALL TEAM. 1209 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,760 I CAN TELL YOU IT'S VERY, VERY 1210 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,080 CHALLENGING. 1211 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,680 BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON 1212 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,160 THE BALL AND THAT IS WE JUST, 1213 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,360 AGAIN, ANSWER THE QUESTION. 1214 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,720 IF THERE'S A TREND THAT WE 1215 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:39,800 UNCOVER, I'M GOING TO GIVE AN 1216 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,200 EXAMPLE, WE STARTED RECEIVING A 1217 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,640 LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 1218 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,560 INGREDIENT TURKESTERONE, AND 1219 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,760 PULLED THE DATA AND COULDN'T 1220 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,400 FIND ENOUGH INFORMATION TO WRITE 1221 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,040 AN EVIDENCE-BASED ARTICLE. 1222 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,720 SO WE PUT FOUR SENTENCES ON THE 1223 00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:54,520 OPERATION SUPPLEMENT SAFETY 1224 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:54,760 WEBSITE. 1225 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,080 AND THEN WE PUSHED THE 1226 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,080 INFORMATION OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 1227 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,120 SO THERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY. 1228 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,720 WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR LAWYERS 1229 00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:05,080 A LOT TO GET THAT APPROVED, OF 1230 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,720 COURSE. 1231 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,240 BUT WE TRY TO PUSH OUT ANYTHING 1232 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,760 THAT WE GLEAN FROM THE ASK THE 1233 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,280 EXPERT QUESTIONS ON SOCIAL MEDIA 1234 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:20,040 OR, AGAIN, BY CREATING CONTENT 1235 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,880 ON THE WEBSITE. 1236 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,240 >> ONE LAST QUESTION DEALS WITH 1237 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:26,880 WORKING WITH THE PXs ON THE 1238 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,480 MILITARY BASES. 1239 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,000 WELL, IF THEY SELL IT ON THE 1240 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,400 BASE IT MUST BE SAFE. 1241 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,000 SO, WHAT'S YOUR LEVEL OF 1242 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,120 CONTROL, SO TO SPEAK, 1243 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,560 PROHIBITING SOME OF THESE 1244 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,480 PRODUCTS GOING INTO THE PXs? 1245 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,440 >> WELL, FIRST, THANK YOU FOR 1246 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,000 THAT QUESTION. 1247 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,760 WE GET THAT QUESTION AT EVERY 1248 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,080 PRESENTATION. 1249 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,280 AND I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY 1250 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,280 IMPORTANT. 1251 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,920 THE DODI ACTUALLY STIPULATES 1252 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,440 THAT THERE WILL BE NO PRODUCTS 1253 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,360 SOLD ON BASE WITH A PROHIBITED 1254 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,720 INGREDIENT. 1255 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,160 WE'RE MEETING WITH ALL THE 1256 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,520 EXCHANGES TO TALK TO THEM, TO 1257 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,160 ENSURE THAT THEIR BUYERS ARE 1258 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,560 NAVIGATING THE PROHIBITED LIST. 1259 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,240 WE'RE NOT WALKING ENCYCLOPEDIAS. 1260 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:17,960 WE HAVE 800 SUBSTANCES, 1700 1261 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,240 SYNONYMS. 1262 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,600 IT'S EXTREMELY CHALLENGING. 1263 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,120 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE 1264 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,960 THE DISCUSSION, WHAT WE'RE 1265 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,040 LOOKING FOR IS A LIST. 1266 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,240 WE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE INPUT 1267 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,400 BECAUSE WE, AGAIN, DON'T WANT TO 1268 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,000 BE IN A SITUATION WHERE A 1269 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,280 SERVICE MEMBER TAKES A PRODUCT 1270 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,480 THAT THEY SHOULDN'T TAKE. 1271 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,880 WE WANT TO STEER THEM TO THOSE 1272 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,520 SAFE PRODUCTS. 1273 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,200 WE KNOW THERE ARE SAFE PRODUCTS. 1274 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,120 WE WANT TO OFFER MORE -- WE HOPE 1275 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,960 THEY ARE THERE ON THE BASE, MORE 1276 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,160 THIRD-PARTY CERTIFIED PRODUCTS, 1277 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,760 BECAUSE IF THEY WANT TO TAKE 1278 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,680 OMEGA 3 OR MULTI-VITAMIN OR 1279 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,320 MAYBE CREATINE OR WHATEVER WE 1280 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,240 WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE 1281 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:03,080 AVAILABLE SO THEY CAN MAKE THE 1282 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,400 INFORMED DECISION FOR 1283 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:04,680 THEMSELVES. 1284 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,600 JONATHAN, DID HAVE YOU ANYTHING 1285 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,960 TO ADD TO THAT? 1286 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,080 >> NO, THAT'S A GREAT SUMMARY. 1287 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,280 I KNOW WE'RE COMING UP AGAINST 1288 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,560 OUR TIME. 1289 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:13,960 >> RIGHT. 1290 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,640 SO THANK YOU AGAIN. 1291 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,160 YOU ALL ARE EXTREMELY VIGILANT. 1292 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,360 TO KEEP OUR SERVICE MEMBERS 1293 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:22,800 SAFE. 1294 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,360 WE THANK YOU FOR THAT AND 1295 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,000 ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO VISIT 1296 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,240 THE OPSS WEBSITE AND LEARN MORE 1297 00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:30,400 ABOUT WHAT YOU DO. 1298 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,240 SO AT THIS TIME I THINK WE WILL 1299 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:43,800 MOVE ON TO ANOTHER EXPERT, WHO 1300 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,880 HANDLES ASK-THE-EXPERT 1301 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,520 QUESTIONS, CAROL HAGGANS, WHO 1302 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,560 HAS JOINED US, WITH ODS AND 1303 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,600 HANDLES A VARIETY OF HEALTH 1304 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,880 COMMUNICATION ACTIVITIES FOR ODS 1305 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:04,040 TO INCLUDING WRITING OF 1306 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,120 FACTSHEETS. 1307 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,560 PERFECT SEGUE TO ANOTHER 1308 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,440 ASK-THE-EXPERT AND, CAROL, TAKE 1309 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,640 IT AWAY. 1310 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,600 >> GREAT. 1311 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,600 THANK YOU, DR. COSTELLO. 1312 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,080 LET ME GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY 1313 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:17,600 SCREEN. 1314 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:17,800 OKAY. 1315 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,880 HOW DOES THAT LOOK? 1316 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,920 CAN YOU SEE MY SLIDES? 1317 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,320 >> IT'S GREAT. 1318 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,720 >> OKAY, GREAT. 1319 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:28,960 GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. 1320 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,560 THANK YOU, DR. COSTELLO, AND DR. 1321 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,760 GAHCHE, FOR THE INTRODUCTION AND 1322 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,520 CHANCE TO SPEAK TODAY. 1323 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,280 MY TALK RELATES TO THE FACT THAT 1324 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,480 WE ALL INTERACTING REMOTELY FOR 1325 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,360 THE PRACTICUM. 1326 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,200 WE'RE IN A CONFERENCE ROOM IN 1327 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,080 YEARS PAST BUT NOT THIS YEAR. 1328 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,560 IT'S A TOPIC OF COURSE THAT HAS 1329 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,720 AFFECTED ALL OF US, SOME MORE 1330 00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:52,480 THAN OTHERS, AND THAT OF COURSE 1331 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,040 IS COVID-19. 1332 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,480 AND MORE BROADLY, IMMUNITY. 1333 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480 CAN DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS AFFECT 1334 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,080 IMMUNE HEALTH? 1335 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,240 AND WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED OVER 1336 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:06,440 THE LAST 2 TO 2 1/2 YEARS? 1337 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,200 I'LL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND 1338 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,240 INFORMATION ON IMMUNE FUNCTION, 1339 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,080 WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF 1340 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,960 CONSUMER INTEREST, AND 1341 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,400 SUPPLEMENTS PROMOTED FOR IMMUNE 1342 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:15,840 FUNCTION. 1343 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,440 AND THEN I'LL GO INTO DETAIL 1344 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,920 ABOUT SOME STUDIES COMPLETED FOR 1345 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,400 CERTAIN INGREDIENTS. 1346 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,880 THE IMMUNE SYSTEM, I'LL START BY 1347 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,200 SAYING THAT I'M A NUTRITIONIST, 1348 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,200 NOT AN IMMUNOLOGIST. 1349 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,080 THIS IS A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW. 1350 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,160 BUT BASICALLY THE IMMUNE SYSTEM 1351 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,400 IS A NETWORK OF CELLS, TISSUES, 1352 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,520 ORGANS THAT WORK TOGETHER TO 1353 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,160 PROTECT THE BODY. 1354 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,200 IT'S COMPRISED OF INNATE 1355 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,320 RESPONSES WHICH ARE THE FIRST 1356 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,720 LINE OF DEFENSE, AND ADAPTIVE 1357 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:46,600 RESPONSES, WHICH BECOME ENGAGED 1358 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,160 LATER. 1359 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,280 AND THE INNATE IMMUNE SYSTEM 1360 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,040 INCLUDES PHYSICAL BARRIERS LIKE 1361 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,480 THE SKIN, GUT EPITHELIUM, THEY 1362 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,000 HELP PREVENT PATHOGEN ENTRY. 1363 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,640 AND IT ALSO INCLUDES LEUKOCYTES 1364 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,480 WHICH ARE WHITE BLOOD CELLS SUCH 1365 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,280 AS NEUTROPHILS, MACROPHAGES, 1366 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,200 NATURAL KILLER CELLS. 1367 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,520 THEY ATTEMPT TO IDENTIFY AND 1368 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,000 ELIMINATE FOREIGN PATHOGENS. 1369 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,920 AND THESE COMPONENTS ARE 1370 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:11,400 NON-SPECIFIC. 1371 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,560 SO, UNLIKE ADAPTIVE IMMUNE 1372 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,920 SYSTEM, THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE AND 1373 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,440 RESPOND TO SPECIFIC PATHOGENS. 1374 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,040 ADAPTIVE IMMUNE SYSTEM ON THE 1375 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,680 OTHER HAND CONSISTS OF T 1376 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,040 LYMPHOCYTES, ALSO CALLED T 1377 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,400 CELLS, AND B CELLS THAT SECRETE 1378 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,040 ANTIBODIES INTO BLOOD AND 1379 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,600 TISSUES, BOTH ARE PATHOGEN 1380 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:32,200 SPECIFIC. 1381 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,600 ADAPTIVE IMMUNE RESPONSE TAKES 1382 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:39,880 SEVERAL DAYS OR WEEKS TO 1383 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,120 DEVELOP. 1384 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,880 BUT GENERATES IMMUNOLOGICAL 1385 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,480 MEMORY SO SUBSEQUENT EXPOSURE TO 1386 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,600 SAME PATHOGEN LEADS TO VIGOROUS 1387 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,200 IMMUNE RESPONSE. 1388 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,200 VACCINATIONS TARGET ADAPTIVE 1389 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,400 IMMUNE SYSTEM PROTECTING FROM 1390 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,560 EXPOSURE TO THE SAME PATHOGEN IN 1391 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,000 THE FUTURE. 1392 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,880 THE BODY'S IMMUNE RESPONSE LEADS 1393 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,920 TO INFLAMMATION, THIS IS 1394 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,080 RELEVANT FOR COVID-19 AND MANY 1395 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,000 OTHER DISEASES BECAUSE 1396 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,520 INFLAMMATION DOES HELP ELIMINATE 1397 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,840 A PATHOGEN AND INITIATE THE 1398 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,440 HEALING PROCESS, BUT CAN ALSO 1399 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,920 CAUSE PROBLEMS. 1400 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,480 FOR EXAMPLE, ACTIVATION OF CD8 T 1401 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,560 CELLS CAN INCREASE INFLAMMATION 1402 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,360 AND CALL PULMONARY DAMAGE, CAN 1403 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,360 LEAD TO ACUTE RESPIRATORY 1404 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,040 DISTRESS SYNDROME, ALSO SOME 1405 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,200 COVID-19 PATIENTS EXPERIENCE 1406 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,400 CYTOKINE STORM, WHICH IS A 1407 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,040 CRITICAL CONDITION CAUSED BY 1408 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,880 EXPRESSIVE PRODUCTION OF 1409 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,640 INFLAMMATORY CYTOKINES. 1410 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,760 THIS INCREASES DISEASE SEVERITY 1411 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,800 AND RISK OF DEATH. 1412 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,120 SO KEEPING THE BODY'S 1413 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,920 INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE IN CHECK 1414 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,960 IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF 1415 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,560 DISEASE MANAGEMENT. 1416 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,520 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, THIS CHART 1417 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,840 SHOWS SALES FOR SUPPLEMENTS 1418 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,560 PROMOTED FOR IMMUNE HEALTH. 1419 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,560 ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE 1420 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,040 PRACTICUM DR. GAHCHE NOTED HOW 1421 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,240 SUPPLEMENT SALES INCREASED IN 1422 00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:57,880 2020 AND WE SAW THIS IN THIS 1423 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,440 CATEGORY. 1424 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:04,040 YOU CAN SEE THE STEADY GROWTH 1425 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,880 SINCE 2016, DURING 2020 SALES 1426 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,240 REACHED $5.9 BILLION. 1427 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:12,200 AND THIS WAS UNDOUBTEDLY DUE TO 1428 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:12,480 COVID-19. 1429 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,280 NOW, VALUES FOR 2021 HAVEN'T 1430 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,680 BEEN FINALIZED JUST YET, BUT 1431 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,320 SALES ARE ESTIMATED TO HAVE 1432 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,440 DECLINED SOMEWHAT FROM 2020 BUT 1433 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,080 STILL VERY HIGH COMPARED TO 1434 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:24,640 PREVIOUS YEARS. 1435 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,800 AND THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN DURING 1436 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,480 2020 OF INGREDIENTS COMMONLY 1437 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,640 FOUND IN THESE PRODUCTS. 1438 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,680 MULTI-VITAMINS AND VITAMIN C TOP 1439 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,520 THE LIST. 1440 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,840 FOLLOWED BY VARIOUS HERBS, 1441 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,040 PRE-BIOTICS AND PROBIOTICS, AND 1442 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,960 ELDERBERRY SPECIFICALLY, ONE OF 1443 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,920 THE TOP SELLERS DURING 2020 IN 1444 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,920 THE HERBAL CATEGORY. 1445 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,320 OF COURSE, THESE DIETARY 1446 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,400 SUPPLEMENTS LIKE OTHERS ARE NOT 1447 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,760 INTENDED TO PREVENT OR TREAT 1448 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:56,960 DISEASE. 1449 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,080 WE HAVE VACCINES, WE HAVE 1450 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,160 PHARMACOLOGIC TREATMENTS. 1451 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,200 BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME FALSE 1452 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,680 CLAIMS. 1453 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,960 ON MONDAY TAWANA DAVIS FROM FTC 1454 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,720 MENTIONED THEY ARE CRACKING DOWN 1455 00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:09,600 ON DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS THAT ARE 1456 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,200 BEING ILLEGALLY ADVERTISED FOR 1457 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,400 PREVENTING OR TREATING COVID-19. 1458 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,880 HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF 1459 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,360 THESE BULLETINS FROM THE FTC, 1460 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,320 BUT NEVERTHELESS THERE IS A LOT 1461 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,400 OF INTEREST WITH RESPECT TO 1462 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,600 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS AND IMMUNE 1463 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,400 SUPPORT. 1464 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,640 SO NOW I'LL TURN TO WHERE THE 1465 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,360 SCIENCE REALLY STANDS RIGHT NOW. 1466 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,800 SO IN TERMS OF SUPPLEMENT 1467 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,000 INGREDIENTS, WE KNOW THAT MANY 1468 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,400 VITAMINS AND MINERALS INCLUDING 1469 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,040 VITAMINS A AND C, D, E, AND ZINC 1470 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,920 AND SELENIUM, ARE IMPORTANT FOR 1471 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,320 PROPER IMMUNE FUNCTION AS ARE 1472 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,800 ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS AND SOME 1473 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,240 AMINO ACIDS. 1474 00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:51,600 DEFICIENCIES OF THESE NUTRIENTS 1475 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,280 CAN INCREASE SUSCEPTIBILITY TO 1476 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,000 INFECTION. 1477 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,600 BUT THE QUESTION IS, ASSUMING 1478 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,120 SOMEONE IS GETTING SUFFICIENT 1479 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,880 AMOUNTS, DOES GETTING MORE HELP? 1480 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,960 AND AS FAR AS OTHER INGREDIENTS, 1481 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,560 BOTANICALS, PROBIOTICS, THEY 1482 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,960 DON'T HAVE ESSENTIAL ROLES IN 1483 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,120 THE BODY BUT DO THEY AFFECT 1484 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,920 IMMUNE FUNCTION OR INFLAMMATION? 1485 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,880 UNFORTUNATELY, FOR MANY OF THESE 1486 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,440 INGREDIENTS WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE 1487 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,760 AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE WOULD 1488 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:15,960 LIKE. 1489 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,240 BUT NOW I'LL GO IN SOME DETAIL 1490 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:19,560 ABOUT SEVERAL INGREDIENTS AND 1491 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,440 WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM 1492 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,120 STUDIES INVOLVING COVID-19, AND 1493 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,800 I'LL START WITH VITAMIN D 1494 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,720 BECAUSE IT HAS GARNERED A LOT OF 1495 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:31,080 ATTENTION. 1496 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:38,840 AS YOU ALL KNOW IT HAS WELL 1497 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,320 ESTABLISHED EFFECT ON CALCIUM 1498 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,040 ABSORPTION AND BIOIMMUNITY 1499 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,040 INCREASING LEVEL OF T 1500 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:55,840 REPRESENTING LAKER TO CELLS AND 1501 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,480 AFFECTS SUSCEPTIBILITY TO 1502 00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,840 INFECTION, ASSOCIATED WITH FLU 1503 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,120 AND HEPATITIS C AND THERE IS 1504 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,360 EVIDENCE OF REDUCING RESPIRATORY 1505 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,560 TRACT INFECTION ESPECIALLY WITH 1506 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,240 VITAMIN D DEFICIENCY. 1507 00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:14,760 ADULTS NEED 15 TO 20 MICROGRAMS 1508 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,680 A DAY, 600 TO 800 IUs, UNITS 1509 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,920 HAVE CHANGED. 1510 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,480 AND D OF STATUS IS MEASURED BY 1511 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,400 SERUM CONCENTRATION OF 1512 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:30,160 25-HYDROXY D, OPTIMAL 1513 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,000 CONCENTRATIONS AREN'T PRECISELY 1514 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:40,040 DEFINEDRY R. ADEFINED DEFINED 1515 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,200 -- DEFINED BUT ABOVE 50 IS 1516 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,320 ADEQUATE FOR BONE HEALTH. 1517 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,840 IN ADDITION, ASSESSING VITAMIN D 1518 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:56,840 STATUS IS COMPLICATED BY 1519 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:02,120 VARIABILITY OF AVAILABLE ASSAYS. 1520 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,080 MANY RECOMMENDED INCREASE IN 1521 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:09,720 INTAKE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 1522 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:10,480 PANDEMIC, THIS RECOMMENDED 1523 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,320 ADULTS INCREASE FROM ALL SOURCES 1524 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,160 TO ACHIEVE SERUM LEVELS ABOVE 30 1525 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:24,200 NANOGRAMS PER MILLILITER TO 1526 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,800 PREVENT OR REDUCE SYMPTOMS, AND 1527 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,160 2,000 TO 4,000 IUs, DOSES MUCH 1528 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,080 HIGHER THAN THE RDAs, AND IN 1529 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,200 ADDITION RECOMMENDED THAT 1530 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,880 HOSPITALS MEASURE SERUM VITAMIN 1531 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,040 D LEVELS OF ALL PATIENTS 1532 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,680 HOSPITALIZED FOR COVID-19, AND 1533 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:44,520 THOSE WITH LEVELS BELOW 30 1534 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,000 NANOGRAMS RECEIVED VITAMIN D 1535 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,240 SUPPLEMENTATION. 1536 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:50,640 EVEN CONGRESS GOT INVOLVED WITH 1537 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,600 HOUSE RESOLUTION 116 A YEAR AGO, 1538 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,000 STATES VITAMIN D DEFICIENCIES 1539 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,000 ARE LINKED TO POOR COVID-19 1540 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,680 OUTCOMES AND ENCOURAGES THE CDC 1541 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,600 AND FDA TO ISSUE GUIDANCE ON 1542 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,680 VITAMIN D DURING THE PANDEMIC. 1543 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,160 THIS BILL HAS NOT MOVED OUT OF 1544 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:05,440 COMMITTEE. 1545 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,040 BUT IT DOES SHOW YOU THE STRONG 1546 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,200 LEVEL OF INTEREST IN DIETARY 1547 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,640 SUPPLEMENTS INGREDIENTS LIKE 1548 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,280 VITAMIN D. 1549 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,200 BUT OF COURSE THE IMPORTANT 1550 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,920 QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THE 1551 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,240 SCIENCE SAY? 1552 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:22,280 WELL, MANY BUT NOT ALL, BUT MANY 1553 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,160 OBSERVATIONAL STUDIES DO SHOW 1554 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,240 ASSOCIATION BETWEEN LOWER 1555 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:27,840 VITAMIN D CONCENTRATIONS OR 1556 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,800 VITAMIN D DEFICIENCY AND HIGHER 1557 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,440 RISK OF COVID-19 AS WELL AS 1558 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,040 SEVERITY OF DISEASE. 1559 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,680 AND MOST OF THESE STUDIES WERE 1560 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,520 CONDUCTED BEFORE VACCINES WERE 1561 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,600 DEVELOPED. 1562 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,920 HERE'S A STUDY FROM SPAIN, 1563 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,200 EXAMINED LEVELS IN HOSPITALIZED 1564 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,880 PATIENTS WITH COVID-19, AND 1565 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,920 COMPARED THEM WITH HEALTHY 1566 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,120 LEVELS IN HEALTH HEALTHY 1567 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,440 CONTROLS, LOWER LEVELS IN 1568 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,040 PATIENTS WITH COVID-19, BARS IN 1569 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,160 BLACK, COMPARED WITH CONTROLS. 1570 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,040 AND THEY ALSO FOUND HIGHER RATES 1571 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,200 OF VITAMIN D DEFICIENCY IN THE 1572 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,920 PATIENTS WITH COVID-19. 1573 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,800 HERE'S ANOTHER STUDY CONDUCTED 1574 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,640 IN CHINA, EXAMINED VITAMIN D 1575 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,920 CONCENTRATIONS IN PATIENTS WITH 1576 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,440 COVID-19, AND HEALTHY CONTROLS, 1577 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,400 AND FOUND SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER 1578 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,080 CONSERVATIONS IN THE PATIENTS 1579 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,000 THAN THE CONTROLS. 1580 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,920 AND HERE YOU CAN SEE VITAMIN D 1581 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,920 DEFICIENCY WHICH THEY DEFINED AS 1582 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,400 25-HYDROXY D LESS THAN 30 1583 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,720 NANOMOLES PER LITER WAS 1584 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,520 ASSOCIATED WITH MORE SEVERE 1585 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,000 COVID-19. 1586 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,400 THERE'S A SYSTEMATIC REVIEW AND 1587 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:38,640 META-ANALYSIS OF 13 1588 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,120 OBSERVATIONAL STUDIES 1589 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,240 ASSOCIATION BETWEEN VITAMIN D 1590 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,680 LEVELS AND INCIDENCE OF 1591 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,040 COVID-19, AND FOUND THAT LOW 1592 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,480 SERUM VITAMIN D LEVELS ARE 1593 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,040 SIGNIFICANTLY ASSOCIATED WITH 1594 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,760 RISK OF SARS-COV-2 INFECTION. 1595 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,200 SO THIS IS JUST IF SOMEONE HAS 1596 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,760 LOW VITAMIN D LEVELS THEY ARE 1597 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,960 MORE LIKELY TO GET COVID-19 BUT 1598 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,960 THESE ARE OBSERVATIONAL STUDIES 1599 00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,160 AND CAN'T PROVE CAUSE AND 1600 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:02,360 EFFECT. 1601 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,680 IN ADDITION THERE ARE VERY 1602 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,320 IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS WHEN 1603 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,280 LOOKING AT CORRELATIONS WITH 1604 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,800 VITAMIN D LEVELS. 1605 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,560 FIRST IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER 1606 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,320 WHEN THE VITAMIN D LEVELS WERE 1607 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,240 MEASURED TO RULE OUT REVERSE 1608 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,200 CAUSALITY, MEANING THE DISEASE 1609 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,680 MIGHT HAVE CAUSED THE LOW 1610 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:18,800 VITAMIN D LEVEL. 1611 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,240 THIS WAS A STUDY FROM THE 1612 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,400 NETHERLANDS, THEY HAD HEALTHY 1613 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,680 MALE VOLUNTEERS THAT RECEIVED 1614 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:36,560 BOLUS OF E. COLI-DERIVED LIPO 1615 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:37,600 LIPOPOLYSACCHARIDE, MEASURED THE 1616 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,760 25-HYDROXY D LEVEL 1617 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,440 SIMULTANEOUSLY. 1618 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,600 YOU CAN SEE PLASMACYTE KIND 1619 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,640 LEVELS INCREASED TO PEAK OF 3 1620 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,960 HOURS, VITAMIN D LEVELS 1621 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,080 DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY. 1622 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,640 THIS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE VITAMIN 1623 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,200 D IS NEGATIVE ACUTE PHASE 1624 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,720 REACTANT, LEVELS DECREASE IN 1625 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:55,720 RESPONSE TO INFLAMMATION AND OF 1626 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,160 COURSE WE KNOW THAT INFLAMMATION 1627 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,560 OCCURS IN COVID-19 PATIENTS. 1628 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,040 SO THEREFORE ANY VITAMIN D 1629 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,440 MEASUREMENTS TAKEN BEFORE -- 1630 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,680 SHORTLY BEFORE, OR AFTER A 1631 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,640 COVID-19 DIAGNOSIS LIKE WHEN 1632 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,360 SOMEONE IS ADMITTED TO A 1633 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,600 HOSPITAL ARE LIKELY TO BE 1634 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,640 REDUCED DUE TO DISEASE ONSET. 1635 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,000 SO YOU REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER 1636 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,840 VITAMIN D LEVELS BEFORE SOMEONE 1637 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,120 COMES DOWN WITH COVID-19 OR 1638 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,440 ANOTHER ILLNESS. 1639 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,440 IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER 1640 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,920 CONFOUNDERS SUCH AS OBESITY AND 1641 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,240 RACE. 1642 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,480 FOR EXAMPLE, MANY AFRICAN 1643 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,120 AMERICANS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE 1644 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,400 OBESITY HAVE LOWER VITAMIN D 1645 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,680 STATUS AS WELL AS MORE SEVERE 1646 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:34,920 COVID. 1647 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,760 THIS ANALYSIS OF DATA FROM THE 1648 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,880 U.K. BIOBANK EXAMINED 1649 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,760 ASSOCIATIONS BETWEEN VITAMIN D 1650 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,360 CONCENTRATIONS AND STATUS AND 1651 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,600 CONFIRMED SARS-COV-2 INFECTION 1652 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,560 IN ABOUT 1500 PEOPLE WHO WERE 1653 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,040 TESTED FOR COVID. 1654 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,640 YOU CAN SEE THAT VITAMIN D 1655 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,160 CONCENTRATIONS AND DEFICIENCY 1656 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,160 WERE SIGNIFICANTLY ASSOCIATED 1657 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,240 WITH CONFIRMED INFECTION, 1658 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,760 VARIABLE ANALYSIS, BUT AFTER 1659 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:01,880 ADJUSTMENT FOR COVARIATES 1660 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,280 INCLUDING ETHNICITY AND BMI 1661 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,920 CATEGORIES THE ASSOCIATIONS NO 1662 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:06,920 LONGER HELD. 1663 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,240 HOWEVER, ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS 1664 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,960 OF THIS STUDY IS THE VITAMIN D 1665 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,080 MEASUREMENTS WERE TAKEN SEVERAL 1666 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,840 YEARS BEFORE EMERGENCE OF 1667 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,960 COVID-19 SO IT'S POSSIBLE 1668 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,760 PARTICIPANTS' LEVELS HAVE 1669 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,120 SUBSEQUENTLY CHANGED. 1670 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,640 THIS WAS AN INTERESTING 1671 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,520 RETROSPECTIVE STUDY BY DR. DAVID 1672 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,720 MELTZER AND COLLEAGUES FROM 1673 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,280 UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, EXAMINING 1674 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,920 ASSOCIATION BETWEEN VITAMIN D 1675 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,440 LEVELS AND COVID-19 TEST RESULTS 1676 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,200 AND VITAMIN D WAS MEASURED 1677 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,080 DURING THE PREVIOUS YEAR, BUT 1678 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,520 NOT WITHIN 14 DAYS OF THE 1679 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,280 COVID-19 TESTING. 1680 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,160 THEY ANALYZED DATA BY RACE, 1681 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,280 OVERALL SAMPLE IS ON THE LEFT, 1682 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,680 AND THEN BROKEN DOWN BY BLACK 1683 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,680 AND WHITE INDIVIDUALS. 1684 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,480 YOU CAN SEE BLACK INDIVIDUALS 1685 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,000 WITH 25-HYDROXY D LEVELS BELOW 1686 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,840 40 NANOGRAMS PER MILLILITER HAD 1687 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,480 HIGHER RISK OF COVID BUT NO 1688 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,800 ASSOCIATIONS BETWEEN VITAMIN D 1689 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,440 LEVELS AND COVID-19 RISK AMONG 1690 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:05,880 WHITES. 1691 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,880 CLEARLY THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN 1692 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,680 VITAMIN D CONCENTRATIONS AND 1693 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,840 COVID-19 RISK IN SEVERITY ARE 1694 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,560 COMPLICATED. 1695 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:16,920 A FEW COMPLETED RCTs ON 1696 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,160 VITAMIN D, ONE WAS IN BRAZIL, 1697 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,120 240 HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH 1698 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,760 MODERATE TO SEVERE COVID-19. 1699 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,200 EXAMINED EFFECTS OF A SINGLE 1700 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:32,320 ORAL DOSE OF 5,000 MICROGRAMS, 1701 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,480 200,000 IUs, OF VITAMIN D, 1702 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,360 PLACEBO, TEN DAYS AFTER SYMPTOM 1703 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,080 ONSET, PUBLISHED IN JAMA LAST 1704 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,800 YEAR, MEAN BASELINE D LEVEL 1705 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,800 AMONG PARTICIPANTS WAS 20.9 1706 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,880 NANOGRAMS PER MILLILITER, ON THE 1707 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:48,520 BORDERLINE FOR ADEQUATE STATUS, 1708 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,520 MEASURED ON THE DAY OF 1709 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,720 RANDOMIZATION INTO THE TRIAL. 1710 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,560 CHART ON THE LEFT SHOWS DATA FOR 1711 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,280 ALL PATIENTS, CHART ON THE RIGHT 1712 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,920 IS JUST THE 115 PATIENTS WITH 1713 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,560 VITAMIN D DEFICIENCY AT 1714 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:00,800 BASELINE. 1715 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,560 YOU CAN SEE VITAMIN D TREATMENT 1716 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,160 DID NOT SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE 1717 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,960 LENGTH OF HOSPITALIZATION, ALSO 1718 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:14,120 DID NOT AFFECT RISK OF MORTALITY 1719 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,640 OR NEED FOR MECHANICAL 1720 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,160 VENTILATION EVEN FOR DEFICIENT 1721 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:21,560 PATIENTS. 1722 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,240 FOLLOW-ON ANALYSIS OF THOSE WITH 1723 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,520 LESS THAN 10 NANOGRAMS PER 1724 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,240 MILLILITER AT BASELINE FOUND NO 1725 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,320 EFFECT, PUBLISHED LATER LAST 1726 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:30,520 YEAR. 1727 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,600 THERE WAS A RECENTLY PUBLISHED 1728 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,040 POST HOC ANALYSIS OF 1729 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,640 PRE-SPECIFIED AND EXPLORATORY 1730 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,280 SECONDARY OUTCOMES FROM THIS 1731 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,840 TRIAL, AJCN A FEW MONTHS AGO, 1732 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,840 EXAMINED EFFECT ON CYTOKINES, 1733 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,800 CHEMOKINES, GROWTH FACTOR, AND 1734 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,400 THEY FOUND NO SIGNIFICANT 1735 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,200 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GROUPS. 1736 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,000 SO THE CURRENT NIH COVID-19 1737 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,160 GUIDELINES STATE THAT THE DATA 1738 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:57,760 ARE INSUFFICIENT TO RECOMMEND 1739 01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,800 EITHER FOR OR AGAINST USE OF 1740 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,640 VITAMIN D TO PREVENT OR TREAT 1741 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,240 COVID-19. 1742 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,040 THE BOTTOM LINE IS PEOPLE SHOULD 1743 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,880 ENSURE THEY ARE MEETING RDA FOR 1744 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:18,800 VITAMIN D AND IF NEEDEDs 1745 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,120 NEEDED A SUPPLEMENT BUT UNCLEAR 1746 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,920 IF UPPER LEVELS ARE NEEDED. 1747 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,720 4,000 IUs FOR ANYONE 9 OR 1748 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:32,480 OLDER. 1749 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,480 SO WHAT ABOUT VITAMIN C AND 1750 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:34,840 ZINC? 1751 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,160 LIKE VITAMIN D BOTH PLAY A ROLE 1752 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,840 IN IMMUNE FUNCTION. 1753 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,360 VITAMIN C HAS ANTIOXIDANT 1754 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:49,160 EFFECT, AND MICROBEALLY AND 1755 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,640 ANTI-VIRAL ACTION. 1756 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:59,680 DEFICIENCY IMPAIRS IMMUNE 1757 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,520 FUNCTION, INCREASES 1758 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,040 SUSCEPTIBILITY TO INFECTION, 1759 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,240 EFFECT MIGHT VARY DEPENDING ON 1760 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,760 INDIVIDUAL STATUS. 1761 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,520 INTEREST IN VITAMIN C AND COVID 1762 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,680 COMES FROM RESEARCH SHOWING 1763 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:10,760 TAKING 200 MILLIGRAMS A DAY OR 1764 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,280 MORE ON A REGULAR BASIS HELPS 1765 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,800 REDUCE DURATION OF THE COMMON 1766 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,640 COLD AND SEVERITY OF SYMPTOMS. 1767 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,480 VITAMIN C SUPPLEMENTS APPEAR TO 1768 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,440 REDUCE RISK OF DEVELOPING COLDS 1769 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,440 IN PEOPLE EXPOSED TO EXTREME 1770 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,680 PHYSICAL STRESS, LIKE MARATHON 1771 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:35,760 RUNNERS, SKIERS, SOLDIERS AND 1772 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,480 SUBARC ARCTIC, NOT THE AVERAGE 1773 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:38,840 PERSON. 1774 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,000 ZINC HAS ANTI-VIRAL AND 1775 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,760 ANTI-INFLAMMATORY PROPERTIES. 1776 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,320 AND IT HELPS MAINTAIN THE 1777 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,360 INTEGRITY OF TISSUE BARRIERS 1778 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,360 SUCH AS RESPIRATORY EPITHELIA. 1779 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,080 AND RESEARCH INDICATES ZINC 1780 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,000 DEFICIENCY ADVERSELY AFFECTS 1781 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,840 IMMUNE FUNCTION IN SEVERAL WAYS. 1782 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,960 SEVERAL CLINICAL TRIALS SUGGEST 1783 01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,720 THAT ZINC LOZENGES THAT DISSOLVE 1784 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,360 IN THE MOUTH MIGHT HELP SHORTEN 1785 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,320 DURATION OF THE COMMON COLD, AND 1786 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:10,440 RDA IS 8 TO 12 MILLIGRAMS A DAY 1787 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:11,680 FOR ADULTS. 1788 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,320 IN TERMS OF RESEARCH IN PATIENTS 1789 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,160 WITH COVID THERE HAVE BEEN 1790 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,360 RETROSPECTIVE STUDIES AND CASE 1791 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,400 REPORTS OF VITAMIN C 1792 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,840 ADMINISTERED ORALLY AND 1793 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,040 INTRAVENOUSLY IN PATIENTS WITH 1794 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,000 COVID-19. 1795 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,600 INTRAVENOUS ADMINISTRATION CAN 1796 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,280 PRODUCE MUCH HIGHER BLOOD LEVELS 1797 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,000 THAN ORAL DOSES, AND IT IS NOT 1798 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,000 CLASSIFIED AS DIETARY 1799 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,280 SUPPLEMENT, IT'S CONSIDERED A 1800 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,520 DRUG. 1801 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:43,400 ONLY ORAL ADMINISTRATION IS 1802 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,520 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT. 1803 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,840 THESE STUDIES HAVE MIXED 1804 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,680 RESULTS, IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT 1805 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,480 AFFECTED MORTALITY OR OTHER 1806 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,520 OUTCOMES LIKE BLOOD OXYGENATION 1807 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,000 LEVELS, SAME TRUE FOR ZINC. 1808 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,760 RETROSPECTIVE STUDIES AND CASE 1809 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,520 REPORTS HAVE NOT FOUND 1810 01:05:58,520 --> 01:05:59,600 CONSISTENT EFFECTS, ZINC 1811 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,400 SUPPLEMENTATION OR ZINC STATUS, 1812 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:02,440 ON DISEASE SEVERITY, HOSPITAL 1813 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,640 LENGTH OF STAY OR MORTALITY 1814 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:05,960 RATES. 1815 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,240 ONE CLINICAL TRIAL HAS BEEN 1816 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,920 COMPLETED IN ADULTS DIAGNOSED 1817 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,360 WITH COVID-19, AND WERE 1818 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:15,040 RECEIVING OUTPATIENT CARE BEFORE 1819 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,320 VACCINATIONS, PATIENTS RECEIVE 1820 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:26,440 EITHER HIGH DOSE OF ASCORBIC 1821 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,520 ACID, ZINC OR BOTH, TRIAL WAS 1822 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,000 STOPPED EARLY DUE TO FUTILITY, 1823 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,880 STOPPED RECRUITMENT AT 214 1824 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:35,840 PATIENTS, INTENDED TO ENROLL 520 1825 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,840 BUT WITH DATA FOR THE PRIMARY 1826 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,400 OUTCOME NUMBER OF DAYS REQUIRED 1827 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,880 TO REACH A 50% REDUCTION IN 1828 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,400 SYMPTOMS THERE WERE NO 1829 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:46,200 SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES AMONG 1830 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,840 THE FOUR STUDY GROUPS. 1831 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,960 LIKEWISE THERE WAS NO 1832 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,440 SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN ANY OF 1833 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,200 THE SECONDARY OUTCOMES INCLUDING 1834 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,760 NUMBER OF DAYS TO REACH NO 1835 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,840 PRESENCE OF FEVER, COUGH, 1836 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,600 SHORTNESS OF BREATH, OR FATIGUE. 1837 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,680 SO LIKE VITAMIN D, THE NIH COVID 1838 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,800 TREATMENT THE GUIDELINES STATE 1839 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:13,760 DATA ARE INSUFFICIENT TO 1840 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:20,960 RECOMMEND USE OF VITAMIN C OR 1841 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,160 ZINC, AND RECOMMENDS AGAINST DUE 1842 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,920 TO POTENTIAL FOR ADVERSE EFFECTS 1843 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,360 AT HIGH DOSES INCLUDING COPPER 1844 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,560 DEFICIENCY. 1845 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,600 PEOPLE SHOULD ENSURE THEY ARE 1846 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,600 MEETING RDA TO AVOID DEFICIENCY 1847 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,520 AND BE MINDFUL OF ULs. 1848 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,640 I MENTIONED EARLIER THERE ARE 1849 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:41,520 OTHER NUTRIENTS THAT ARE 1850 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,280 IMPORTANT FOR IMMUNE HEALTH LIKE 1851 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,400 SELENIUM, VITAMIN E, VITAMIN A, 1852 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:48,680 SAME MESSAGE HERE, ENSURE 1853 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,320 SUFFICIENT INTAKE FROM DIET, IF 1854 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,440 NEEDED A SUPPLEMENT. 1855 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,840 YOU WANT TO AVOID ANY DEFICIENCY 1856 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,240 BUT THERE'S NO STRONG EVIDENCE 1857 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,480 THAT EXTRA AMOUNTS ARE 1858 01:07:59,480 --> 01:07:59,760 BENEFICIAL. 1859 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,040 AND WE HAVE DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS 1860 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,520 FACTSHEETS ON THE WEBSITE, JOYCE 1861 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,160 MERKEL MENTIONED THESE MONDAY. 1862 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,400 THEY LIST RECOMMENDED INTAKES, 1863 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,600 FOOD SOURCES, HEALTH EFFECTS. 1864 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,520 THEY ALSO LIST ULs AND COMMON 1865 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,560 MEDICATION INTERACTIONS SO YOU 1866 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:17,440 CAN REFER TO THOSE FOR MORE 1867 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:17,720 DETAIL. 1868 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,840 I'D LIKE TO TURN TO A FEW OTHER 1869 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,480 TYPES OF INGREDIENTS, STARTING 1870 01:08:23,480 --> 01:08:25,160 WITH PROBIOTICS, BECAUSE THEY 1871 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,320 HAVE ALSO GARNERED SOME 1872 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,520 ATTENTION WITH RESPECT TO 1873 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:34,560 IMMUNITY AND COVID. 1874 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,960 LIVE MICROORGANISMS SUCH AS 1875 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,800 BACTERIA AND YEASTS, MEASURED IN 1876 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,640 CFUs, COMMON AMOUNTS VARY, ON 1877 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,160 THE ORDER OF ONE BILLION OR TEN 1878 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,240 BILLION CFUs. 1879 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,840 THEY ACT IN THE GASTROINTESTINAL 1880 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,560 TRACT, MIGHT IMPROVE IMMUNE 1881 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,480 FUNCTION BY ENHANCES GUT BARRIER 1882 01:08:55,480 --> 01:08:56,840 FUNCTION AND ONE IMPORTANT 1883 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,160 CONSIDERATION IS THAT RESEARCH 1884 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,160 FINDINGS FOR ONE STRAIN OR 1885 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,520 VARIETY CAN'T BE EXTRAPOLATED TO 1886 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,640 OTHERS, AND THIS CAN MAKE IT 1887 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,360 DIFFICULT TO COMPARE OR COMBINE 1888 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,000 RESULTS FROM DIFFERENT STUDIES. 1889 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,560 IN GENERAL, PROBIOTICS HAVE A 1890 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,840 VERY GOOD SAFETY PROFILE FOR 1891 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:14,960 HEALTHY PEOPLE. 1892 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,800 PROBIOTICS HAVE BEEN EXAMINED 1893 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,200 FOR DIARRHEA AND RESPIRATORY 1894 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:20,120 ILLNESS. 1895 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,320 INFECTIOUS DIARRHEA IN CHILDREN, 1896 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:22,800 EARLIER STUDIES LOOKED 1897 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:23,640 PROMISING. 1898 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,440 BUT RESULTS FROM RECENT STUDIES 1899 01:09:28,440 --> 01:09:29,480 HAVE BEEN CONFLICTING, 2020 1900 01:09:29,480 --> 01:09:33,320 COCHRANE REVIEW CONCLUDED THEY 1901 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,920 DO NOT APPEAR TO AFFECT RISK OF 1902 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,320 DIARRHEA FOR 48 HOURS OR LONGER. 1903 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,160 GASTROENTERITIS, SOME STRAINS 1904 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,160 HAVE NOT BEEN SHOWN TO BE 1905 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,400 EFFECTIVE SO THEY RECOMMEND 1906 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:46,800 AGAINST THEM. 1907 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,000 NOT FOR SAFETY CONCERNS, JUST 1908 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,080 BECAUSE THEY DON'T APPEAR TO BE 1909 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:51,520 HELPFUL. 1910 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,760 AS FAR AS RESPIRATORY TRACT 1911 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:55,880 INFECTION, SEVERAL SYSTEMATIC 1912 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,800 REVIEWS AND META-ANALYSES FOUND 1913 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,880 BENEFICIAL EFFECTS ON SOME BUT 1914 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,040 NOT ALL OUTCOMES AND MIGHT 1915 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,080 BENEFIT PATIENTS WITH 1916 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,080 VENTILATOR-ASSOCIATED PNEUMONIA. 1917 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,680 WHAT ABOUT COVID-19? 1918 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,200 THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW SMALL 1919 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,640 HUMAN STUDIES OF VARYING 1920 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,040 QUALITY. 1921 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,200 HERE IS ONE OF THEM, CONDUCTED 1922 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:18,200 IN ITALY AMONG HOSPITALIZED 1923 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:18,680 ADULTS. 1924 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,560 ALL RECEIVED ONE OR MORE 1925 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,880 MEDICATIONS, 28 ALSO RECEIVED 1926 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,000 PROBIOTIC THREE TIMES A DAY FOR 1927 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,600 14 DAYS. 1928 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,240 MOST COMMON SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS 1929 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,920 AMONG THE PATIENTS WERE FEVER, 1930 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,800 COUGH, DIFFICULTY BREATHING, 1931 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,280 DIARRHEA. 1932 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:35,880 WHAT THEY FOUND THE LIGHT GRAY 1933 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,080 ARE SUBJECTS WHO RECEIVED 1934 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,920 PROBIOTICS IN ADDITION TO 1935 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,200 MEDICATION, BLACK BARS DIDN'T, 1936 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,680 NO PLACEBO, ONLY RECEIVED 1937 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,120 MEDICATIONS IN THE BLACK BARS. 1938 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,760 CHART ON THE LEFT SHOWS 1939 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:50,680 CUMULATIVE PERCENTAGE OF 1940 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,400 PATIENTS WITH DIARRHEA RESOLVED. 1941 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,960 YOU CAN SEE HOW IT RESOLVED 1942 01:10:59,960 --> 01:11:01,000 QUICKLY, BY DAY 7 RESOLVED IN 1943 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,240 ALL, BUT ONLY A THIRD WHO DID 1944 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,000 NOT RECEIVE ANTIBIOTICS. 1945 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,000 ON THE RIGHT THIS RECOMMENDS 1946 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,800 MANY OF THE OTHER SIGNS AND 1947 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,000 SYMPTOMS, FEVER, WEAKNESS, 1948 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,480 HEADACHE, MUSCLE PAIN, 1949 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:12,960 DIFFICULTY BREATHING. 1950 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,840 YOU CAN SEE THESE SYMPTOMS ALSO 1951 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,120 RESOLVED MORE QUICKLY IN THOSE 1952 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:18,560 RECEIVING PROBIOTIC. 1953 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,440 THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS TO 1954 01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:23,960 THIS STUDY, IT WASN'T PLACEBO 1955 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:24,960 CONTROLLED, DR. SORKIN DISCUSSED 1956 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:29,120 YESTERDAY THE IMPORTANCE OF 1957 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,080 HAVING PLACEBO-CONTROLLED IS 1958 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,000 IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVENING 1959 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,520 PLACEBO PILL CAN ELICIT A 1960 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,040 BIOLOGICAL RESPONSE. 1961 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,160 ALSO IN THIS TRIAL MEDICATION 1962 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,880 USE VARIED SLIGHTLY AMONG 1963 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,360 PATIENTS, WE CAN'T DRAW FIRM 1964 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,600 CONCLUSIONS BUT IT IS A 1965 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:45,160 PROMISING INDICATOR. 1966 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:46,480 HERE'S ANOTHER CLINICAL TRIAL 1967 01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:48,600 THAT USED A DIFFERENT 1968 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,400 FORMULATION, IT WAS CONDUCTED IN 1969 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,760 200 ADULTS HOSPITALIZED WITH 1970 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,360 COVID-19 PNEUMONIA. 1971 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,200 ALL RECEIVED MEDICATIONS AND 99 1972 01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,760 RECEIVED PROBIOTIC THREE TIMES A 1973 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,760 DAY UP TO 14 DAYS, THE OTHER 1974 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,200 PATIENTS DIDN'T. 1975 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:07,840 THERE WAS NO PLACEBO, JUST A 1976 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:08,640 CONTROL GROUP. 1977 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:09,760 RESULTS FOR SURVIVAL, A MAIN 1978 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,240 OUTCOME, ON THE LEFT IS ALL 1979 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,840 PATIENTS, MIDDLE JUST PATIENTS 1980 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:16,760 WITH CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, 1981 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,640 RIGHT IS PATIENTS WITH DIABETES. 1982 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,240 DOTTED LINES THOSE WHO RECEIVED 1983 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,680 PROBIOTICS, SOLID LINES THOSE 1984 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,360 WHO DIDN'T. 1985 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,240 NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES. 1986 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,120 ALSO NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS ON 1987 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:34,720 DURATION OF DISEASE, HOSPITAL 1988 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,440 LENGTH OF STAY, ICU ADMISSION, 1989 01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:41,040 NEED FOR MECHANICAL VENTILATION. 1990 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,280 LIKE WE SEE WITH DIETARY 1991 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,880 SUPPLEMENT TRIALS, TRIAL DESIGN 1992 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,000 AND OUTCOMES ARE OFTEN 1993 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,840 DIFFERENT, AND WE SEE 1994 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:47,760 CONFLICTING FINDINGS SO IT IS 1995 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,080 HARD TO FORM ANY KIND OF 1996 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,080 CONSENSUS. 1997 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,720 OF COURSE WITH PROBIOTICS YOU 1998 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:54,880 HAVE ADDITIONAL COMPLICATION OF 1999 01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:02,160 A WIDE VARIETY OF PRODUCT 2000 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:02,600 FORMULATIONS. 2001 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,440 OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS ARE GETTING 2002 01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:06,760 ATTENTION FOR COVID-19 AND 2003 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,400 IMMUNITY, FOUND IN FATTY FISH 2004 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,160 AND SEAFOOD, FISH OIL, FLAX 2005 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,240 SEED, OTHER NUTS AND SEEDS. 2006 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,440 MAJORITY OF RESEARCH FOCUSES ON 2007 01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:20,560 LONG CHAIN OMEGA 3s, EPA, DHA. 2008 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,640 OMEGA 3s CAN AFFECT 2009 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,520 INFLAMMATION AND IMMUNITY. 2010 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,720 THEY FORM LESS POTENT MEDIATORS 2011 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,080 THAN THOSE FROM OMEGA 6 FATTY 2012 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:41,640 ASSED AND MAY LOWER CYTOKINE AND 2013 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,280 ENHANCE IMMUNE FUNCTION. 2014 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,400 PEOPLE WHO REPORTED USING OMEGA 2015 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,200 3s, THREE TIMES A WEEK FOR 2016 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,000 THREE MONTHS OR LONGER, 12% 2017 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,240 LOWER RISK BECOMING INFECTED 2018 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:52,600 WITH COVID. 2019 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,320 DR. SESSO AND OTHER SPEAKERS 2020 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:55,440 HAVE DISCUSSED THIS FINDING IS 2021 01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,080 CONFOUNDED BY THE FACT THAT 2022 01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,720 PEOPLE WHO TAKE SUPPLEMENTS SUCH 2023 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,040 AS OMEGA 3s ARE LIKELY TO HAVE 2024 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,640 OTHER HEALTHY BEHAVIORS THAT 2025 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,800 COULD ALSO IMPACT THIS FINDING. 2026 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,200 HERE'S ANOTHER STUDY FROM DR. 2027 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,560 HARRIS' GROUP EXAMINING OMEGA 3 2028 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,800 INDEX WHICH DR. SCOTT AND 2029 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,400 MS. LINDSAY DISCUSSED THIS 2030 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,760 MORNING, 100 PATIENTS 2031 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,040 HOSPITALIZED WITH COVID-19, AND 2032 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:26,080 HERE IS A TABLE SHOWING 2033 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:26,960 ASSOCIATION BETWEEN QUARTILES 2034 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,480 AND DEATH AFTER ADJUSTING FOR 2035 01:14:29,480 --> 01:14:31,000 AGE AND SEX. 2036 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,960 YOU CAN SEE A TREND TOWARD LOWER 2037 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,520 RISK OF DEATH COMPARING HIGHEST 2038 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,120 QUARTILE WITH OTHER QUARTILE, IT 2039 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,280 DIDN'T REACH STATISTICAL 2040 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:41,800 SIGNIFICANCE. 2041 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,360 A COUPLE CLINICAL TRIALS HAVE 2042 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,560 BEEN CONDUCTED CALLED PREPARE 2043 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:52,080 IT, USING PRESCRIPTION FORM OF 2044 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,400 EPA, ONE EXAMINED HIGH DOSE OF 2045 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,200 IPE, 8 GRAMS FOR 3 DAYS, 2046 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,080 FOLLOWED BY 4 GRAMS A DAY FOR 60 2047 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,400 DAYS VERSUS PLACEBO IN HEALTHY 2048 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:02,960 ADULTS. 2049 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,800 TO SEE FIT AFFECTS IMMUNE 2050 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,640 FUNCTION, I'M SORRY, INFECTION 2051 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,520 RATES OF SARS-COV-2. 2052 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:14,880 AND THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT 2053 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:15,760 EFFECT. 2054 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,560 PREPARE IT 2 WAS ADULTS WITH A 2055 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,000 POSITIVE COVID-19 DIAGNOSIS, 2056 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,160 SIMILAR DOSING REGIMEN FOR 28 2057 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,400 DAYS, THE IPE HAD NO SIGNIFICANT 2058 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,320 EFFECT COMPARED WITH PLACEBO ON 2059 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:30,760 HOSPITALIZATION OR DEATH, 2060 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,240 ALTHOUGH RESEARCHERS DID NOTE 2061 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,880 STUDY WAS UNDERPOWERED AND THEY 2062 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,880 RECOMMEND FURTHER RESEARCH. 2063 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,720 FINALLY I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS 2064 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,560 BOTANICALS OF INTEREST FOR 2065 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,280 IMMUNITY. 2066 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,440 ONE OF THE CHALLENGES DISCUSSED 2067 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:47,080 YESTERDAY IS CHEMICAL 2068 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:47,360 COMPLEXITY. 2069 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,600 THERE'S VARIABILITY IN LEVELS OF 2070 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:56,280 ACTIVE COMPOUNDS AND THEY ARE 2071 01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:03,840 DIFFICULT TO STANDARDIZE. 2072 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,240 ANDROGRAPH IS NATIVE TO 2073 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,760 SOUTHEAST ASIA, IT MIGHT REDUCE 2074 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,400 SEVERITY OF RESPIRATORY TRACT 2075 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,240 INFECTION, HAS BEEN STUDIED IN 2076 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,640 THAILAND, ECHINACEA IS A WESTERN 2077 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:20,360 TRADITIONAL MEDICINE PURCHASE 2078 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,440 -- PURPORTED TO INHIBIT VIRUSES, 2079 01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:24,040 SEVERAL STUDIES SUGGEST IT MIGHT 2080 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,960 SLIGHTLY REDUCE RISK OF CATCHING 2081 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,680 THE COMMON COLD. 2082 01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,680 THERE HAVEN'T BEEN CLINICAL 2083 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,040 TRIALS FOR COVID-19 PUBLISHED IN 2084 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,800 THE PEER-REVIEWED LITERATURE. 2085 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:41,120 AN GINSENG IS THE COMMON NAME 2086 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:49,360 FOR SEVERAL SPECIES OF GENUS 2087 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,560 PANAX, SOME ANIMAL LABORATORY 2088 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,200 STUDIES SUGGEST IT MIGHT AFFECT 2089 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:54,880 IMMUNITY AND INFLAMMATION. 2090 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,920 IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER IT HAS 2091 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,480 ANY CLINICALLY MEANINGFUL 2092 01:16:58,480 --> 01:16:59,960 EFFECTS IN HUMANS. 2093 01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:01,920 IT HAS BEEN EXAMINED FOR 2094 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,200 REDUCING RISK OF UPPER 2095 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,800 RESPIRATORY TRACT INFECTION BUT 2096 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,840 RESULTS FROM STUDIES HAVE BEEN 2097 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:09,120 MIXED. 2098 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,360 FINALLY ELDERBERRY IS THE FRUIT 2099 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,040 OF THE EUROPEAN ELDER TREE, A 2100 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,440 SMALL TREE THAT GROWS IN MANY 2101 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:15,640 PARTS OF THE WORLD INCLUDING 2102 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:16,520 NORTH AMERICA. 2103 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:17,840 IT CONTAINS SEVERAL COMPOUND 2104 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,920 THAT MIGHT IMPROVE IMMUNITY AND 2105 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:22,960 RESISTANCE TO DISEASE. 2106 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,840 MILD REDUCE RISK OF UPPER 2107 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,760 RESPIRATORY TRACT INFECTION BUT 2108 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,040 THERE HAVEN'T BEEN PUBLISHED 2109 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,160 CLINICAL TRIALS FOR COVID-19. 2110 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,320 FULL CIRCLE, YOU CAN SEE EVEN 2111 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:36,800 FOR THE BETTER STUDIED 2112 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,280 INGREDIENTS LIKE VITAMIN C AND D 2113 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,000 AND ZINC, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH 2114 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,640 INFORMATION TO RECOMMEND FOR OR 2115 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,440 AGAINST THEIR USE. 2116 01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:46,760 PEOPLE SHOULD ENSURE THEY ARE 2117 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,840 CONSUMING A HEALTHY DIET, 2118 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,680 GETTING SUFFICIENT AMOUNTS OF 2119 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,760 ALL NUTRIENTS, SUPPLEMENTS CAN 2120 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,080 HELP BOOST INTAKE BUT CAN'T TAKE 2121 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,120 THE PLACE OF A HEALTHY DIET. 2122 01:17:54,120 --> 01:18:00,520 IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THE 2123 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:00,720 ULs. 2124 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,720 HERBS AND PROBIOTICS, EVEN 2125 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,160 EVIDENCE IS LESS CONCLUSIVE, FOR 2126 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,600 SOME SAFETY IS LESS WELL 2127 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:09,000 STUDIED. 2128 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,480 ONE IMPORTANT POINT, SOME PEOPLE 2129 01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:12,400 ARE HESITANT TO TALK ABOUT 2130 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,680 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, IF YOU'RE 2131 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,800 WORKING IN HEALTH CARE FIELD ASK 2132 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:16,680 YOUR PATIENTS ABOUT SUPPLEMENT 2133 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,520 USE TO KEEP THE LINES OF 2134 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,680 COMMUNICATION OPEN SO YOU CAN 2135 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,280 GIVE YOUR PATIENTS APPROPRIATE 2136 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:24,760 EVIDENCE-BASED ADVICE. 2137 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,560 FINALLY AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE 2138 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,360 FACTSHEETS ON OUR WEBSITE, ON 2139 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:30,560 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT INGREDIENTS, 2140 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,080 SO YOU CAN REFER TO THEM FOR 2141 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,960 DETAILS ABOUT SAFETY AND 2142 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:35,480 EFFICACY. 2143 01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:37,760 HERE'S OUR WEB PAGE THAT HAS OUR 2144 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,520 FULL LIST OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 2145 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,800 FACTSHEETS, VITAMINS AND 2146 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:43,760 MINERALS, HERBS, PROBIOTICS, 2147 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,000 OMEGA 3s AND OTHER 2148 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,520 INGREDIENTS, AND WE HAVE SOME 2149 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:48,320 THAT ARE CONDITION SPECIFIC 2150 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,920 INCLUDING DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS 2151 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,640 FOR WEIGHT LOSS, AND SUPPLEMENTS 2152 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,640 FOR EXERCISE AND ATHLETIC PER 2153 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,560 FORMANCE. 2154 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,720 HERE IS A LINK TO DIETARY 2155 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,840 SUPPLEMENTS IN THE TIME OF 2156 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,160 COVID-19. 2157 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,720 A SCREEN SHOT OF THE FIRST PAGE, 2158 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,280 INTRODUCTION, GOES INTO DETAIL 2159 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:07,960 ABOUT SEVERAL INGREDIENTS, SOME 2160 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,280 OF WHICH I COVERED TODAY, OTHERS 2161 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:14,600 THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR. 2162 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,880 WE HAVE VERSIONS FOR HEALTH 2163 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,600 PROFESSIONALS FULLY REFERENCED, 2164 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,280 AND FOR CONSUMERS THAT ARE LESS 2165 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,520 DETAILED AND EASIER TO READ AND 2166 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,000 CONSUMER VERSIONS ARE AVAILABLE 2167 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,080 IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. 2168 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,040 WE ARE WORKING ON A FACT SHEET 2169 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,600 THAT ADDRESSES IMMUNE FUNCTION 2170 01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,000 MORE BROADLY, AND THAT WILL BE 2171 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,920 POSTED TO OUR WEBSITE WHEN WE 2172 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,080 ARE FINISHED WITH IT. 2173 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,680 SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR 2174 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:36,920 ATTENTION. 2175 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,400 I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE SOME 2176 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,720 QUESTIONS. 2177 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:44,320 >> WONDERFUL. 2178 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,040 THANK YOU SO MUCH, CAROL, FOR 2179 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,200 THE OVERVIEW. 2180 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:55,520 THERE'S AS YOU SAY, THE DATA ARE 2181 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,120 MIXED AND ALL OVER THE PLACE. 2182 01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,360 WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, A COUPLE 2183 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,480 TEND AROUND WHAT DO WE KNOW 2184 01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:04,480 ABOUT COMBINATION ALSO OF 2185 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:05,960 SUPPLEMENTS FOR COVID OR FOR 2186 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,840 IMMUNE FUNCTION? 2187 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,960 SO WHETHER IT'S COMBINATION OF 2188 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,440 NUTRIENTS OR COMBINATIONS OF 2189 01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:13,200 BOTANICALS AND BOTH TOGETHER, 2190 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,080 WHAT DID YOU FIND IN YOUR 2191 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:16,600 LITERATURE SEARCHES? 2192 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,160 >> YEAH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD 2193 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:22,960 QUESTION BECAUSE A LOT OF THE 2194 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,080 TIMES CLINICAL TRIALS DO 2195 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,680 ADMINISTER COMBINATIONS OF 2196 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:28,520 PRODUCTS. 2197 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,640 YOU KNOW, EITHER MULTI-VITAMINS 2198 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,240 AND MINERALS, LIKE A 2199 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,640 MULTI-VITAMIN TYPE OF 2200 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,440 SUPPLEMENT, OR COMBINATIONS OF 2201 01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:36,080 HERBS, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME 2202 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,280 STUDIES, THE PROBLEM IS IT'S 2203 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:40,960 VERY DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE WHAT 2204 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,360 THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE VARIOUS 2205 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,080 INDIVIDUAL INGREDIENTS MIGHT BE. 2206 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,840 I'M NOT AWARE OF STUDIES THAT 2207 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,080 HAVE SHOWN ANY OF THOSE 2208 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:49,960 COMBINATIONS ARE HELPFUL FOR 2209 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:51,880 PREVENTING OR TREATING COVID. 2210 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,280 SIMILAR TO THE INDIVIDUAL 2211 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,240 INGREDIENTS THAT I DISCUSSED. 2212 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,080 BUT THERE IS THAT COMPLICATING 2213 01:20:59,080 --> 01:20:59,480 FACTOR. 2214 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:00,760 BUT MAGNESIUM IS ONE, FOR 2215 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,120 EXAMPLE, THAT'S USUALLY 2216 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,000 ADMINISTRATION IN COMBINATION 2217 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,680 WITH OTHER INGREDIENTS. 2218 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,400 SO, THOSE STUDIES ARE BEING 2219 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,040 DONE. 2220 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,800 BUT AS I SAID, THERE ISN'T ANY 2221 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:15,520 EVIDENCE THAT ANY OF THOSE 2222 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:16,520 SPECIFIC FORMULATIONS ARE 2223 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:17,440 HELPFUL FOR COVID-19. 2224 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,200 >> THANK YOU. 2225 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,600 ARE THERE ANY INDICATORS TO THE 2226 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,280 CHARACTERISTICS OF THE 2227 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:25,800 RESPONDERS VERSUS NON-RESPONDERS 2228 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,680 IN THE STUDIES FOR VITAMIN D, C, 2229 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:28,520 OR ZINC? 2230 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,200 SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT SORT 2231 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:34,000 OF STANDS OUT ON WHO MAY BE A 2232 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,240 RESPONDER, WHO MAY NOT BE A 2233 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:36,520 RESPONDER? 2234 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,360 >> SOME OF THE STUDIES MIGHT 2235 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,240 LOOK AT THAT WHEN THEY LOOK AT 2236 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:40,800 SUBGROUP ANALYSES, AND THAT KIND 2237 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:41,680 OF THING. 2238 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,840 YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OFTEN PEOPLE 2239 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,640 ARE MORE CRITICALLY ILL, PERHAPS 2240 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,080 IF THEY HAVE UNDERLYING HEALTH 2241 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:49,920 CONDITIONS, OBESITY, 2242 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:50,440 CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, 2243 01:21:50,440 --> 01:21:52,360 DIABETES, THAT TYPE OF THING, 2244 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,960 ELDERLY, WE KNOW THOSE TEND TO 2245 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,840 TRACK WITH COVID-19 DISEASE 2246 01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:02,080 SEVER ITY BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF 2247 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,440 RESERVE THAT SAYS THIS PROBIOTIC 2248 01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:06,200 OR VITAMIN D OR WAS EFFECTIVE M 2249 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,840 THIS GROUP BUT NOT IN ANOTHER 2250 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,480 GROUP, WHERE IT MIGHT BE 2251 01:22:11,480 --> 01:22:14,640 INDICATED FOR CERTAIN 2252 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:14,920 POPULATIONS. 2253 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,880 SO OFTEN WITH VITAMIN D, AS I 2254 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,520 MENTIONED, ONE CLINICAL TRIAL, 2255 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,360 EVEN LOOKED AT PATIENTS 2256 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,800 SPECIFICALLY THAT WERE VITAMIN D 2257 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:26,640 DEFICIENT BECAUSE BASELINE 2258 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:27,400 MICRONUTRIENT STATUS IS VERY 2259 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,360 IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER AND THEY 2260 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:30,480 DIDN'T FIND ANY EFFECT, THAT WAS 2261 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:32,320 ONE CLINICAL TRIAL WITH A LARGE 2262 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,640 BOLUS DOSE OF VITAMIN D. 2263 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,200 S SO ARE BEING INVESTIGATED IN 2264 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,920 STUDIES BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY 2265 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,000 EVIDENCE THERE ARE PARTICULAR 2266 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,600 SUBGROUPS THAT MIGHT BENEFIT 2267 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,640 FROM THESE. 2268 01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:44,880 >> OKAY. 2269 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:50,760 AND WE'LL TOUCH ON A COUPLE 2270 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,040 OTHER SUPPLEMENTS, IF YOU KNOW, 2271 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,760 HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON 2272 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,280 GLUTATHIONE, POSSIBLY MELATONIN 2273 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:00,520 FOR COVID? 2274 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,920 >> YES, GLUTATHIONE IS A 2275 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,640 TRIPEPTIDE, ACTUALLY SYNTHESIZED 2276 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:09,000 ENDOGENOUSLY BY THE BODY, FROM 2277 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,240 GLUTAMINE 15 AND GLYCINE. 2278 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,880 WHICH ARE AMINO ACIDS. 2279 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,840 IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE AS A DIETARY 2280 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,320 SUPPLEMENT, DOES APPEAR TO HAVE 2281 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,440 ANTIOXIDANT ACTIVITY. 2282 01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:21,920 ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH 2283 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:26,560 GLUTATHIONE IS THAT THE ORAL 2284 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:27,520 BIOAVAILABILITY, WHEN 2285 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,400 GLUTATHIONE IS CONSUMED ORALLY 2286 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,160 THE BODY TENDS TO BREAK IT DOWN 2287 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,800 INTO THOSE CONSTITUENT AMINO 2288 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,960 ACIDS, SO IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER 2289 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,480 TAKING GLUTATHIONE ORALLY 2290 01:23:37,480 --> 01:23:44,080 ACTUALLY BOOSTS YOUR LEVELS OF 2291 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:44,400 GLUTATHIONE. 2292 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,400 CYSTEINE IS ANOTHER DIETARY 2293 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,800 SUPPLEMENT ALSO MARKETED, ALSO A 2294 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,680 DRUG, THAT IS SHOWN TO RAISE 2295 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,080 GLUTATHIONE LEVELS, ALSO BEING 2296 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,440 INVESTIGATED FOR COVID-19 AND 2297 01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:57,160 OTHER CONDITIONS. 2298 01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:58,120 BUT GLUTATHIONE, THERE ISN'T ANY 2299 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,640 RESEARCH THAT I'M AWARE OF OF 2300 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:03,680 GLUTATHIONE SUPPLEMENTATION 2301 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,120 SPECIFICALLY FOR COVID-19, IT'S 2302 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:07,920 ALSO ADMINISTERED INTRAVENOUSLY, 2303 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:18,600 LIKE SITE VITAMIN C STUDIES IT 2304 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,360 BYPASSES THE TRACT. 2305 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,120 DOING ORAL SUPPLEMENTATION 2306 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,040 STUDIES DOES THE COMPOUND GET 2307 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,280 ABSORBED, IN THE FORM THAT IS 2308 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,680 INTENDED AND DOES IT GET TO THE 2309 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:29,560 TARGET AREAS? 2310 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,680 SO THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT 2311 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,720 CONSIDERATION. 2312 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,920 AS FAR AS MELATONIN, MELATONIN 2313 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,480 OF COURSE IS A HORMONE THAT'S 2314 01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:43,400 PRODUCED IN THE BRAIN, IT HELPS 2315 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,160 REGULATE CIRCADIAN RHYTHM, ALSO 2316 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,960 AVAILABLE AS A SUPPLEMENT, 2317 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,840 MOSTLY STUDIED FOR PROMOTING 2318 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,040 SLEEP AND REDUCING JET LAG. 2319 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,160 SOME PRELIMINARY RESEARCH 2320 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:59,920 SUGGESTS IT MIGHT 2321 01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:00,560 ANTI-INFLAMMATORY OR ANTIOXIDANT 2322 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:01,880 EFFECT, NO EVIDENCE ON TREATMENT 2323 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:02,920 OF COVID. 2324 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,640 A SMALL STUDY IN SPAIN AMONG 2325 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,280 HEALTH CARE WORKERS LOOKING AT 2326 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:08,520 MELATONIN FOR REDUCING RISK OF 2327 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,160 COVID. 2328 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,840 I THINK IT WAS 2 MILLIGRAMS A 2329 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,120 DAY FOR 12 WEEKS, HEALTH CARE 2330 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,320 WORKERS RECEIVED MELATONIN, 2331 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:17,280 OTHERS RECEIVED PLACEBO. 2332 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,840 IT HAD NO EFFECT ON THEIR RISK 2333 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,400 OF COMING DOWN WITH THE DISEASE. 2334 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:23,800 IN TERMS OF PATIENTS WITH 2335 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,600 COVID-19, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY 2336 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,040 CLINICAL TRIALS OF MELATONIN 2337 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:30,480 ALONE. 2338 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,040 THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE 2339 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,560 PRELIMINARY STUDIES USED IN 2340 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:36,440 COMBINATION WITH OTHER 2341 01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:39,320 THERAPIES, THOSE WERE VERY SMALL 2342 01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,680 AND NOT PLACEBO CONTROLLED. 2343 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,880 SO, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME WE 2344 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:47,120 REALLY DON'T HAVE DEFINITIVE 2345 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,520 INFORMATION ABOUT MELATONIN. 2346 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,000 >> OKAY. 2347 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,600 ALL RIGHT. 2348 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,720 MOVING ON TO MICRONUTRIENT 2349 01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:58,320 STATUS, OPTIMIZING VACCINE 2350 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,720 EFFICACY, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON 2351 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:02,680 THAT? 2352 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,800 >> THAT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING 2353 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:05,120 TOPIC. 2354 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,440 IT HASN'T BEEN THOROUGHLY 2355 01:26:06,440 --> 01:26:09,520 STUDIED FOR THE COVID VACCINE, 2356 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,320 BUT THERE WAS A PAPER, MARGARET 2357 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,080 RAYMOND AND PHILIP CALDER OF 2358 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,680 UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHHAMPTON IN 2359 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,560 THE U.K. PUBLISHED LAST YEAR, I 2360 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,760 THINK IN THE BRITISH JOURNAL OF 2361 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,760 NUTRITION, THEY NOTED PEOPLE 2362 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,160 WITH WEAKENED IMMUNE SYSTEM, 2363 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,320 OFTEN OLDER ADULTS, THEY MAY 2364 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:30,800 RESPOND LESS WELL TO VACCINES, 2365 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,400 OF COURSE IT'S HARD TO MEASURE 2366 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,000 THIS. 2367 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,000 THERE ARE MANY VARIABLES. 2368 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:41,480 BUT IDEALLY YOU WANT -- YOU WANT 2369 01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:42,920 IDEAL NUTRITION STATUS, ADEQUATE 2370 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:43,880 STATUS FOR EFFECTIVE IMMUNE 2371 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:44,680 RESPONSE. 2372 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,280 AND THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW 2373 01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,520 CLINICAL TRIALS, FOR EXAMPLE, 2374 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,880 PEOPLE WHO ATE FIVE FRUITS OR 2375 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,680 VEGETABLES A DAY OR MORE, VERSUS 2376 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,760 THOSE WHO ATE TWO OR LESS, 2377 01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,600 APPEARED TO HAVE BETTER IMMUNE 2378 01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,440 RESPONSE TO SOME VACCINES. 2379 01:27:00,440 --> 01:27:03,400 THIS WASN'T COVID BUT OTHER 2380 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:04,960 VACCINES, ALSO STUDIES ON 2381 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,040 VITAMIN E, SELENIUM 2382 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:13,040 SUPPLEMENTATION, IN OLDER ADULTS 2383 01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,160 SHOWING THOSE HELPED BOOST 2384 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:15,000 IMMUNE RESPONSE FOLLOWING 2385 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:15,320 VACCINATION. 2386 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,520 IT'S THE SAME MESSAGE THAT WE 2387 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,720 HAVE FOR MAINTAINING IMMUNE 2388 01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,120 HEALTH AND PREVENTING DISEASE IS 2389 01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:26,200 EAT A NUTRITIOUS VARIETY OF 2390 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,320 FOODS, WANT TO AVOID DEFICIENCY, 2391 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:30,680 SUPPLEMENT CAN HELP INSURE 2392 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,160 ADEQUATE INTAKE BUT CAN'T TAKE 2393 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:38,280 THE PLACE OF A HEALTHY DIET. 2394 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,840 >> ABSOLUTELY. 2395 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,200 ABSOLUTELY. 2396 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:42,720 THAT'S THE MANTRA A NUTRITIONIST 2397 01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,920 GREW UP WITH. 2398 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:50,120 LET'S SEE. 2399 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,920 ONE LAST QUESTION HERE. 2400 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,960 VITAMIN B3, WE'LL FINISH UP WITH 2401 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,520 VITAMIN B 3, IN TERMS OF ITS 2402 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,760 FUNCTION FOR IMMUNE HEALTH. 2403 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,880 IT'S NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE 2404 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,440 BODY. 2405 01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:09,360 DID YOU COME ACROSS INTERESTING 2406 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,480 TRIALS FOR VITAMIN B3? 2407 01:28:11,480 --> 01:28:18,040 >> NOT SPECIFICALLY. 2408 01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:24,560 NIACIN, I MENTIONED INTEREST IN 2409 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,200 NAD, IT'S A PRESCRIPTION 2410 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,920 MEDICATION THAT IS USED FOR 2411 01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,360 BRONCHOPULMONARY DISEASE AND 2412 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,440 THAT TYPE OF THING, THERE'S BEEN 2413 01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:35,680 INTEREST IN NAD BUT NOT SO MUCH 2414 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:35,920 NIACIN. 2415 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,280 SPECIFICALLY NIACIN HAS BEEN 2416 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:39,080 STUDIED FOR CARDIOVASCULAR 2417 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,880 DISEASE, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF 2418 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,800 LITERATURE SPECIFICALLY ON 2419 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,480 NIACIN FOR COVID-19. 2420 01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:46,800 >> GREAT. 2421 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,920 WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A 2422 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,960 WONDERFUL TALK. 2423 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,160 A WONDERFUL SESSION, TO OUR 2424 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:53,680 OTHER SPEAKERS. 2425 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,000 IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, THEY 2426 01:28:55,000 --> 01:29:02,840 CAN SEND QUESTIONS TO THE ODS 2427 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,040 ASK-THE-EXPERT, THE ADDRESS IS 2428 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,640 ON THE WEBSITE. 2429 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,320 >> YES, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT 2430 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:08,480 TO US ANYTIME. 2431 01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:11,000 >> THANK YOU. 2432 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,080 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2433 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,960 >> I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DR. 2434 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:15,960 GAHCHE. 2435 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:16,400 >> THANK YOU, BECKY. 2436 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:16,920 THANK YOU, CAROL. 2437 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,760 THAT WAS A GREAT SESSION. 2438 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,960 LET'S TAKE A SHORT BREAK, 15 2439 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,720 MINUTES, COME BACK AT 12:45 FOR 2440 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,760 OUR LAST SESSION, SESSION 7, 2441 01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,840 MEETING THE STAKEHOLDERS. 2442 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,560 >>WELCOME BACK TO OUR LAST 2443 01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,960 SESSION, SESSION 7, MEETING THE 2444 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:36,840 STAKEHOLDERS. 2445 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:37,760 JUST A REMINDER, PLEASE SUBMIT 2446 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,360 QUESTIONS FOR PRESENTERS IN THE 2447 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,920 Q&A PANEL AND DIRECT THOSE TO 2448 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,120 ALL PANELISTS. 2449 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,120 AGAIN, TECHNICAL QUESTIONS IN 2450 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,520 THE CHAT BOX PLEASE. 2451 01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,880 OUR MODERATOR IS DR. PAUL 2452 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:51,800 COATES, CURRENTLY PRESIDENT OF 2453 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,680 THE AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR 2454 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,520 NUTRITION, ALSO RECENTLY JOINED 2455 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:56,600 THE FACULTY OF THE INDIANA 2456 01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:05,240 UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF PUBLIC 2457 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,160 HEALTH AS AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR, 2458 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:08,960 HAS MODERATED THIS SESSION MANY 2459 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,360 TIMES IN THE PAST. 2460 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,520 WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM BACK. 2461 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,720 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JAIME. 2462 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:26,600 IT'S ALWAYS AN INTERESTING 2463 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,080 SESSION, WE'LL HEAR FROM THREE 2464 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,160 SPEAKERS FROM TRADE ASSOCIATIONS 2465 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,200 THAT REPRESENT THE DIETARY 2466 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:34,200 SUPPLEMENT INDUSTRY, SINCE 2467 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,760 BIOSKETCHES ARE IN THE MEETING 2468 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,080 MATERIALS I WON'T PROVIDE 2469 01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:41,400 DETAILED INTRODUCTIONS OF THEM. 2470 01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,880 I'LL ASK EACH TO TAKE 15 MINUTES 2471 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,280 NO MORE THAN 15, TO DESCRIBE THE 2472 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,120 PURPOSE OF THEIR ORGANIZATION AS 2473 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:53,880 WELL AS ACTIVITIES THEIR 2474 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:54,760 ORGANIZATION ENGAGES IN 2475 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,360 SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO DIETARY 2476 01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:57,280 SUPPLEMENTS. 2477 01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,800 A BRIEF PANEL DISCUSSION WILL 2478 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:00,480 FOLLOW PRESENTATIONS, TO THE 2479 01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:03,200 AUDIENCE REMEMBER TO USE THE Q&A 2480 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,400 FUNCTION TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS 2481 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,120 AND DIRECT THEM TO ALL 2482 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:07,440 PANELISTS. 2483 01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:10,280 I'LL INTRODUCE THE SECOND PANEL 2484 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:11,080 AFTER THAT DISCUSSION. 2485 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,880 SO, LET ME GO AHEAD AND 2486 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,960 INTRODUCE DR. JAY SIROIS FROM 2487 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,520 CONSUMER HEALTHCARE PRODUCTS 2488 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:21,920 ASSOCIATION. 2489 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:22,080 JAY? 2490 01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:22,640 >> THANKS, PAUL. 2491 01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:26,760 GOOD TO BE HERE WITH EVERYBODY. 2492 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:31,080 I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY 2493 01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:32,400 SCREEN HERE. 2494 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,240 HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ALL SEE THAT. 2495 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:40,040 I'M JAY SIROIS, VICE PRESIDENT 2496 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:40,800 OF REGULATORY. 2497 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:51,200 >> ONE MORE TIME, JAY. 2498 01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,920 >> WITH CONSUMER HEALTH CARE 2499 01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:00,840 PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION. 2500 01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,600 BECAUSE I'M A HISTORY NERD I'LL 2501 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:09,720 GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY OF CHPA, 2502 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,480 STARTED IN 1881, AS PROPRIETARY 2503 01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:14,080 ASSOCIATION, DURING THE CIVIL 2504 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:17,040 WAR U.S. TAXED PATENT MEDICINES 2505 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,520 TO UNDER IF THE WAR EFFORT, PART 2506 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,080 OF THE REASON WE STARTED WAS TO 2507 01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,880 GET THIS TAX REMOVED FROM PATENT 2508 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:25,560 MEDICINES. 2509 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,520 WE BECAME THE NON-PRESCRIPTION 2510 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:30,200 DRUG MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION 2511 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:34,240 IN 1989, AND THEN IN 1999 2512 01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:35,240 CHANGED OUR NAME TO CONSUMER 2513 01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:36,480 HEALTH CARE PRODUCTS 2514 01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:37,600 ASSOCIATION. 2515 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,480 AT THAT TIME WE ALSO STARTED 2516 01:32:41,480 --> 01:32:43,120 REPRESENTING DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 2517 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:44,480 COMPANIES, PREVIOUSLY JUST 2518 01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:46,560 REPRESENTED OTC MEDICINES BUT 2519 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,920 NOW WE REPRESENT OTC MEDICINES, 2520 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,040 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, AND 2521 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:54,600 CONSUMER MEDICAL DEVICES. 2522 01:32:54,600 --> 01:33:02,600 SO, HERE IS KIND OF A 2523 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:03,440 PICTOGRAPHIC. 2524 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:06,480 THERE'S 30 OR SO COMPANIES WE 2525 01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:08,000 HAVE IN SUPPLEMENTS, 2526 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,560 REPRESENTING 20% OF RETAIL SALES 2527 01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,160 FOR THE CATEGORY, CHPA 2528 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:14,640 STRUCTURE, WE HAVE REGULATORY 2529 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,000 AND SCIENTIFIC AFFAIRS 2530 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,400 DEPARTMENT THAT I'M IN 2531 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:20,200 GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, 2532 01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:21,360 COMMUNICATIONS, LEGAL, ALWAYS 2533 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:22,720 ASKED BY FOLKS, I TELL THEM I 2534 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,040 WORK FOR A TRADE ASSOCIATION, 2535 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,120 FIRST QUESTION IS IF I'M A 2536 01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:28,400 LOBBYIST. 2537 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,360 I SAY, NO, I WORK WITH 2538 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,640 LOBBYISTS, I'VE BEEN TO CAPITOL 2539 01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,120 HILL, WHICH IS A GRAND OLD TIME 2540 01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:38,240 BUT I'M NOT A LOBBYIST, I'M A 2541 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,840 SCIENTIST BY BACKGROUND. 2542 01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,640 SO, WE KNOW -- I'M SURE YOU'VE 2543 01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:45,560 HEARD A LOT SO FAR ABOUT THE 2544 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,400 PERCENTAGE OF CONSUMERS THAT 2545 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:49,640 REPORT TAKING DIETARY 2546 01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:51,640 SUPPLEMENTS, FOR SELF-CARE OR 2547 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,920 PREVENTIVE HEALTH, FROM 60 TO 2548 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,920 75%, AND YOU PROBABLY HEARD TOO 2549 01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,080 THE INDUSTRY EXPERIENCED A 2550 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,200 SIGNIFICANT GROWTH LAST YEAR DUE 2551 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,080 PRIMARILY TO COVID. 2552 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,200 HOWEVER, YOU PROBABLY ALSO HEARD 2553 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,360 ABOUT THE LACK OF CREDIBILITY IN 2554 01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:13,720 THE CATEGORY AMONG A NUMBER OF 2555 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:14,440 DIFFERENT CONSUMERS, HEALTH 2556 01:34:14,440 --> 01:34:15,760 AGENCIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 2557 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:21,880 AND THIS IS BECAUSE PRIMARILY OF 2558 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,760 THE ADULT RATE RATED SUBSTANCES, 2559 01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:29,120 A PROBLEM WITH MINORITY OF 2560 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:29,920 COMPANIES MARKETING ADULTERATED 2561 01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:31,720 PRODUCTS, RECENTLY FDA WARNING 2562 01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,800 LETTERS TO COMPANIES FOR 2563 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,040 ADULTERATED PRODUCTS THAT EITHER 2564 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,160 WEREN'T APPROVED OR RECOGNIZED 2565 01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,560 AS -- APPROVED AS FOOD ADDITIVES 2566 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,880 OR RECOGNIZED AS SAFE, OR WERE 2567 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,040 CONSIDERED DIETARY INGREDIENTS. 2568 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:57,400 THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE 2569 01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:04,320 HYGIENEAMINE, OCTOPAMINE, 2570 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,080 THERE'S SAM WORK TO CLIP UP THE 2571 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,760 BAD ACTORS IN A CATEGORY AND 2572 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,360 WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO MINIMIZE 2573 01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:13,000 THE INSTANCES OF THIS. 2574 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,080 PART OF THE WAY WE DO THIS, WE 2575 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,520 HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION, 2576 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,520 WHICH IS A 501(c)3 NON-PROFIT 2577 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,600 THAT PROVIDES CONSUMERS 2578 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,720 INFORMATION AND GUIDANCE ON HOW 2579 01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,560 TO SAFELY USE, STORE, DISPOSE OF 2580 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,080 OTC MED SUPPLEMENTS AND MEDICAL 2581 01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:31,320 DEVICE. 2582 01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,360 WE HAVE PROGRAMS TARGETED TO 2583 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,880 OTCs SUCH AS UP AND AWAY 2584 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,640 CAMPAIGN, KNOW YOUR DOSE, TREAT 2585 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,960 WITH CARE FOR COUGH AND COLD 2586 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:40,480 INGREDIENTS. 2587 01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:43,600 BUT IN RECENT YEARS WE'VE REALLY 2588 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,840 PRIORITIZED BUILDING OUT OUR 2589 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:46,480 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT CONTENT, BOTH 2590 01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:49,320 ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL EASY ON 2591 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,240 SOCIAL CHANNELS TO REACH 2592 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,760 CONSUMERS AND HOPEFULLY RESONATE 2593 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,520 WITH THEM ABOUT SAFE USE AND 2594 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:55,920 STORAGE. 2595 01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:57,760 OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO WE'VE 2596 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,440 ADDED EXPERT ARTICLES ON HOW TO 2597 01:36:00,440 --> 01:36:06,800 SUPPORT A HEALTHY IMMUNE SYSTEM, 2598 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:07,960 COMMON NUTRITIONAL DEFICIENCIES, 2599 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,520 SO SUPPLEMENTS CAN ADDRESS 2600 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,320 THESE, INFORMATION ON MEDICINE 2601 01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:13,920 AND SUPPLEMENT INTERACTIONS, 2602 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:14,480 SCIENCE BEHIND SUPPLEMENTS, 2603 01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:20,720 WE'LL ALSO IN THE FUTURE DEVELOP 2604 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:21,600 CREATIVE CONTENT TO ENHANCE 2605 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:22,320 CONSUMER UNDERSTANDING. 2606 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:26,880 PART OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IS OUR 2607 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:27,920 NEW INTERACTIVE SUPPLEMENT FACTS 2608 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,360 LABEL WEB PAGE. 2609 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,680 IT BASICALLY JUST GOES 2610 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:33,680 THROUGH -- GIVES CONSUMERS A 101 2611 01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,200 ON HOW TO READ A SUPPLEMENT 2612 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:36,920 LABEL. 2613 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,120 WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW BEFORE 2614 01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:44,480 TAKING A DIETARY SUPPLEMENT, 2615 01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:44,920 INCLUDING VITAMINS. 2616 01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:46,040 THERE ARE LINKS WITHIN THE 2617 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:47,960 SUPPLEMENT FACTS BOX SHOWN HERE, 2618 01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,080 TO INFORMATION ON SUCH THINGS AS 2619 01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,760 AMOUNT PER SERVING, PERCENT 2620 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,800 DAILY VALUE, MICROGRAMS, AND 2621 01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:56,880 OTHER INGREDIENTS. 2622 01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:01,600 AND WE'VE MADE THIS AVAILABLE ON 2623 01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:02,720 OUR WEBSITE. 2624 01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,200 WE ALSO RECENTLY INTRODUCED 2625 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,360 SOMETHING CALLED THE DIETARY 2626 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:07,320 SUPPLEMENT INDEX. 2627 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,760 AND THIS WAS TO BETTER 2628 01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:10,760 UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF 2629 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:11,680 SUPPLEMENTS IN HEALTH AND 2630 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,840 WELLNESS AS WELL AS TO ANALYZE 2631 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,760 AND UNDERSTAND THE TRENDS AND 2632 01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,480 CHANGES IN THE MARKET. 2633 01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:21,240 THE DSX AS WE CALL IT LOOKS AT 2634 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,400 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS IN A NUMBER 2635 01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,800 OF PRIMARY CATEGORIES INCLUDING 2636 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,080 GENERAL HEALTH, DIGESTIVE 2637 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,520 HEALTH, IMMUNITY, AND SLEEP. 2638 01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:35,720 AND IT USES DATA FROM SPINS, AN 2639 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:36,640 ANALYTICS AND TECHNOLOGY 2640 01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,520 PROVIDER, THAT REALLY FOCUSES ON 2641 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:42,000 WELLNESS DATA AS ITS PRIMARY 2642 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:42,600 SOURCE. 2643 01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,440 AND THE DSX IS A SCORE THAT 2644 01:37:46,440 --> 01:37:47,200 REFLECTS DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 2645 01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:48,520 CATEGORY SALES FOR A PERIOD, 2646 01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:52,280 WHETHER IT BE A QUARTER OR YEAR, 2647 01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,240 AND CAN -- SCORE CAN BE 2648 01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:56,400 CALCULATED AT COUNTY, STATE, 2649 01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,280 REGIONAL LEVEL, AND A NUMBER OF 2650 01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,840 COMPARISONS CAN BE MADE ACROSS 2651 01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:01,280 DEMOGRAPHICS. 2652 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,520 WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THIS IN THE 2653 01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,120 CONTEXT OF OTHER PUBLIC DATA 2654 01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:06,960 SOURCES LIKE NHANES. 2655 01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,200 AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS TOOL 2656 01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,240 TO SUPPORT MAKING THE CASE TO 2657 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,920 LEGISLATORS AND HEALTH INSURERS, 2658 01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:15,640 AND BENEFIT CONSULTANTS THAT 2659 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,280 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS CAN AND 2660 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:27,080 SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN HEALTH 2661 01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:28,240 CARE PLANS. 2662 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,840 CHPA HAS A NUMBER OF VOLUNTARY 2663 01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,360 CODES AND GUIDELINES, RELATED TO 2664 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:34,080 MEDICINES AND SUPPLEMENTS. 2665 01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,080 FIRST OF THESE WAS DEVELOPED 2666 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,240 NEARLY 90 YEARS AGO, AND OVER 2667 01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:39,760 THE YEARS MANY OF THESE 2668 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,120 VOLUNTARY GUIDELINES WHICH WE 2669 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,880 REALLY DON'T CONSIDER VOLUNTARY, 2670 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,920 WE EXPECT FOLKS TO FOLLOW THEM, 2671 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,440 DID PRE-DATE FDA REGULATIONS ON 2672 01:38:49,440 --> 01:38:49,680 TOPICS. 2673 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,320 FOR SUPPLEMENT RELATED WE HAVE A 2674 01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:54,200 COUPLE EXAMPLES HERE, CAFFEINE, 2675 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:58,280 WHERE WE SAY YOU SHOULD DISCLOSE 2676 01:38:58,280 --> 01:38:59,480 TOTAL CAFFEINE CONTENT PER 2677 01:38:59,480 --> 01:39:00,240 SERVING, INCLUDE SAFETY 2678 01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,560 INFORMATION ON THE LABEL SUCH AS 2679 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,040 NOT INDICATED FOR CHILDREN AND 2680 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:07,360 PREGNANT WOMEN SHOULD CONSULT A 2681 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,480 HEALTH CARE PROVIDER BEFORE USE, 2682 01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:11,520 PROVIDE SERVING SIZE, DAILY 2683 01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,720 INTAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE 2684 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,040 LABEL, RESTRICTIONS ON SALE AND 2685 01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,680 MARKETING OF BULK AMOUNTS OF 2686 01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,000 PURE OR HIGHLY CONCENTRATED 2687 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,840 CAFFEINE IN POWDER OR LIQUID 2688 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:22,320 FORM. 2689 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,120 WE ALSO HAVE ONE ON PROBIOTICS, 2690 01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,600 WHERE WE RECOMMEND FOLKS LABEL 2691 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,920 IN COLONY FORMING UNITS, REFLECT 2692 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,120 THE LIVE MICROORGANISMS AT THE 2693 01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,360 END OF THE SHELF LIFE, AMONG 2694 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:34,280 OTHER THINGS. 2695 01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:41,840 WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF 2696 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,200 DIETARY INGREDIENT SPECIFIC 2697 01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:45,120 GUIDANCE AVAILABLE TO CHPA 2698 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,240 MEMBERS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 2699 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,840 THE PROCESS, I'M GOING OVER IT 2700 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:54,960 QUICKLY, IT'S A MECHANISM FOR 2701 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:55,760 EVALUATING FOOD INGREDIENTS, YOU 2702 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,600 CAN SUBMIT A GRAS NOTIFICATION 2703 01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,960 TO FDA WITH SAFETY INFORMATION 2704 01:39:59,960 --> 01:40:01,600 THAT SHOWS YOUR INGREDIENT IS 2705 01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:03,240 SAFE FOR ADDITION TO A FOOD. 2706 01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:08,280 YOU CAN ALSO GO TO AN 2707 01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,800 INDEPENDENT CONCLUSION OF GRAS 2708 01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,400 PROCESS, SELF-GRAS, WHEREBY THE 2709 01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:14,880 INFORMATION ON THE SAFETY IS 2710 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:16,720 EVALUATED BUT NOT SUBMITTED TO 2711 01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,600 FDA. 2712 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,840 AND IN A NUTSHELL THIS IS UNDER 2713 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,560 CRITICISM FOR THE PAST 10 OR 15 2714 01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,360 YEARS FROM A NUMBER OF GROUPS 2715 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,320 REPRESENTED HERE ON THIS SLIDE. 2716 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:32,160 AND AS A WAY TO TRY TO SHOW THAT 2717 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,600 THIS IS A VALID AND RIGOROUS 2718 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,160 PATHWAY, WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR 2719 01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:40,040 MEMBERS TO DEVELOP A BEST 2720 01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:41,160 PRACTICES GUIDANCE FOR 2721 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,080 PERFORMING AN INDEPENDENT 2722 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,560 CONCLUSION OF GRAS 2723 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:45,880 DETERMINATION. 2724 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:49,760 AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH 2725 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:51,920 MEMBERS ON THIS FOR THE PAST 2726 01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:56,560 YEAR, MAYBE YEAR AND A HALF OR 2727 01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:56,920 SO. 2728 01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:01,200 WE FEEL IT'S A RIGOROUS PROCESS 2729 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:02,360 BUT WE'RE FOCUSING ON WHAT YOU 2730 01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:03,680 NEED TO DO IF YOU'RE A COMPANY, 2731 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:07,400 IF YOU WERE DOING AN INDEPENDENT 2732 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,440 GRAS AFFIRMATION, WHAT TO LOOK 2733 01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:14,120 FOR IF YOU'RE PURCHASING AN 2734 01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:14,800 INGREDIENT FROM A SUPPLIER 2735 01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:15,840 TELLING YOU AN INGREDIENT HAS 2736 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,440 GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE 2737 01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:20,880 HOPE TO FINALIZE THIS SOON. 2738 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,760 I WANTED TO INTRODUCE SOME 2739 01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,920 RECENT LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN 2740 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:30,760 INTRODUCED, THE FDA SAFETY AND 2741 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,040 LANDMARK ADVANCEMENTS ACT OF 2742 01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:32,400 2022. 2743 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,680 THERE WAS A DISCUSSION DRAFT 2744 01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,640 RELEASED ON THIS LAST WEEK. 2745 01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,840 THIS IS LEGISLATION THAT 2746 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,600 REAUTHORIZING THE FDA 2747 01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,000 PRESCRIPTION DRUG, GENERIC DRUG, 2748 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:44,680 BIOSIMILAR AND MEDICAL DEVICE 2749 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,440 USER FEE AGREEMENTS. 2750 01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:49,880 BUT THE LEGISLATION ALSO 2751 01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,400 INCLUDES PROVISION TO STRENGTHEN 2752 01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:55,040 OVERSIGHT OF COSMETICS AS WELL 2753 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,560 AS DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS. 2754 01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:58,800 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT PROVISIONS IN 2755 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,360 THE BILL ARE AIMING TO IMPROVE 2756 01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,520 FDA OVERSIGHT OF SUPPLEMENTS BY 2757 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:05,960 REQUIRING AMONGST OTHER THINGS 2758 01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,560 FOR MANUFACTURERS TO LIST THEIR 2759 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,280 PRODUCTS WITH THE FDA, SOMETHING 2760 01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,040 CALLED A MANDATORY PRODUCT 2761 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:13,160 LISTING. 2762 01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,200 SO WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, OF 2763 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,040 LISTING, BUT WE ALSO ADVOCATING 2764 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,520 FOR INCLUSION OF THIRD PARTY 2765 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:22,400 INSPECTION OR AUDIT AUTHORITY 2766 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:26,160 WHICH WE FEEL WOULD ADD A 2767 01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:26,840 VERIFICATION MECHANISM AND 2768 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,520 INCREASE THE NUMBER OF INSPECTED 2769 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:33,040 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT FACILITIES ON 2770 01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,520 A YEARLY BASIS AND WITHOUT THIS 2771 01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,160 THERE'S NO REAL VALIDATION 2772 01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:38,640 PROCESS, IT WON'T CUT DOWN ON 2773 01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:39,760 BAD ACTORS. 2774 01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:41,640 WE KNOW THERE'S A VERY SMALL 2775 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:42,480 PERCENTAGE OF FACILITIES 2776 01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:45,360 INFECTED EVERY YEAR AND WE FEEL 2777 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:49,480 THAT IF THIS THIRD PARTY GMP 2778 01:42:49,480 --> 01:42:51,240 AUDITS WAS ENACTED WE COULD 2779 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:52,240 INCREASE NUMBER OF INSPECTED 2780 01:42:52,240 --> 01:43:01,680 FACILITIES AND CUT DOWN ON BAD 2781 01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:02,600 ACTORS. 2782 01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:03,600 CHPA PARTICIPATES IN THE 2783 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,320 COLLABORATIVE, MISSION TO 2784 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:06,280 ADVANCE QUALITY AND SAFETY OF 2785 01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,120 SUPPLEMENTS IN THE U.S. 2786 01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:12,360 WE DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF 2787 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,800 DIFFERENT PIECES INCLUDING A 2788 01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,600 WHITE PAPER, A DIVERSE GROUP OF 2789 01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:19,800 STAKEHOLDERS, YOU CAN SEE LISTED 2790 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,760 ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE 2791 01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:23,080 SLIDE. 2792 01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:24,760 WE MEET REGULARLY TO DISCUSS THE 2793 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:25,920 POLICY PRINCIPLES AND HOW WE CAN 2794 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:31,760 PROMOTE THE SAFETY OF THESE 2795 01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,280 PRODUCTS, INCREASE TRANSPARENCY, 2796 01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:34,360 AND EMBRACE QUALITY AND 2797 01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,160 SUPPORTING EFFORTS BY BOTH FDA 2798 01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:42,120 AND INDUSTRY TO INCREASE 2799 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:42,760 MANUFACTURER AWARENESS OF GNP 2800 01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:43,360 REGS. 2801 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:47,600 WE'RE PART OF THE USP COUNCIL 2802 01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:49,960 CONVENTION, A GLOBAL GOVERNANCE 2803 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,760 COMMITTEE THAT REPRESENTS USP 2804 01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:53,800 MEMBERSHIP. 2805 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:58,320 AND THERE'S SEVERAL SECTORS THAT 2806 01:43:58,320 --> 01:43:59,760 ONE IS THE DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 2807 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,120 SECTOR, I'M THE CHAIR OF THAT. 2808 01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:03,600 THERE'S OTHER GROUPS INVOLVED 2809 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,480 INCLUDING AMERICAN MEDICAL 2810 01:44:05,480 --> 01:44:06,360 ASSOCIATION, NATIONAL CONSUMERS 2811 01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:08,200 LEAGUES, WE'VE HELD A SERIES OF 2812 01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,400 MEETINGS TO DETERMINE HOW TO 2813 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,640 EDUCATE GROUPS ON SUPPLEMENTS 2814 01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,440 AND WHERE TO FOCUS AND WE'RE 2815 01:44:15,440 --> 01:44:17,320 THINKING OF LOOKING AT 2816 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:18,560 PHARMACISTS BECAUSE THEY 2817 01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:22,400 REPRESENT A CRITICAL TOUCH POINT 2818 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:23,640 FOR CONSUMERS PURCHASING 2819 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:24,200 SUPPLEMENTS. 2820 01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,000 50% OF THOSE WHO REPORT TAKING 2821 01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:27,200 SUPPLEMENTS MADE THEIR PURCHASE 2822 01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,600 IN A BRICK AND MORTAR PHARMACY, 2823 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,440 ONLY 10% REPORTING ASKING A 2824 01:44:32,440 --> 01:44:33,760 PHARMACIST FOR INFORMATION. 2825 01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:34,560 RIGHT NOW WE'RE DETERMINING HOW 2826 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,480 BEST TO REACH OUT AND WHAT TIMES 2827 01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:41,280 OF CON -- TYPES OF CONTENT TO 2828 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,920 TARGET TO FOCUS ON QUALITY AND 2829 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:44,520 INCREASED CONSUMER 2830 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:45,640 UNDERSTANDING. 2831 01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:45,920 THAT'S ALL. 2832 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:46,760 I LIKE FORWARD TO PANEL 2833 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:53,120 DISCUSSION AND THANK YOU FOR 2834 01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:54,000 HAVING ME. 2835 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:54,600 >> THANK YOU, JAY. 2836 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:55,840 NICE TO CATCH UP WITH YOU A 2837 01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:56,720 LITTLE BIT. 2838 01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,760 IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS. 2839 01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,480 I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SOME OF 2840 01:45:01,480 --> 01:45:03,400 THE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU AND YOUR 2841 01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:04,880 ORGANIZATION HAVE BECOME 2842 01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:05,680 INVOLVED WITH. 2843 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,160 PERHAPS WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF 2844 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,680 THAT DURING THE PANEL DISCUSSION 2845 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:10,880 SESSION. 2846 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,440 NOW I'D LIKE TO CALL ON MERLE 2847 01:45:14,440 --> 01:45:16,680 ZIMMERMANN, WHO IS GOING TO BE 2848 01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:22,280 TALKING ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE 2849 01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:23,040 AMERICAN HERBAL PRODUCTS 2850 01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,960 ASSOCIATION IN THIS SPACE, I'LL 2851 01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:33,280 TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MERLE. 2852 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,240 >> GIVE ME A SECOND, I'M GETTING 2853 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:37,280 MY SLIDES TURN ON. 2854 01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:46,000 AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THIS 2855 01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:46,760 TOGETHER. 2856 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:47,680 IS THAT WORKING? 2857 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:48,080 >> WORKING. 2858 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:48,640 >> GREAT. 2859 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,920 SO IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE HERE 2860 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:52,120 TODAY. 2861 01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:53,320 GETTING TO JOIN EVERYONE 2862 01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:53,560 ATTENDING. 2863 01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:55,520 I'M GOING TO SHARE AN OVERVIEW 2864 01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:56,240 OF THE ACTIVITIES OF THE 2865 01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,320 INDUSTRY TRADE ORGANIZATION I 2866 01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:59,800 WORK FOR, AMERICAN HERBAL 2867 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:00,520 PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION. 2868 01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,240 YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT THE TYPE OF 2869 01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,000 SUPPORT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE 2870 01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:06,560 FROM THE COMMERCIAL SIDE 2871 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,440 ASSISTING FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO 2872 01:46:08,440 --> 01:46:10,400 INCLUDE PLANT-BASED PRODUCTS IN 2873 01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,120 THEIR LIVES. 2874 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:13,040 MISSION TO SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE 2875 01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:14,600 COMMERCIAL WE ENGAGE IN THREE 2876 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:15,840 MAIN AREAS OF ACTIVITY, 2877 01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,280 EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITY TO SUPPORT 2878 01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,480 INDUSTRY MEMBERS, LEGISLATIVE 2879 01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:21,560 AND REGULATORY SUPPORT, GENERAL 2880 01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:22,480 COMMUNICATIONS WITH INDUSTRY AND 2881 01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:23,720 THE PUBLIC. 2882 01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,840 OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS WE'VE 2883 01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,720 HEARD ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS 2884 01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:30,800 INCLUDING MANDATORY SERIOUS 2885 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:32,800 EVENT REPORTING, WHICH CONTINUES 2886 01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:36,520 TO ENGAGE WITH SUCH AS THE ONE 2887 01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:38,800 WE MENTIONED IN DR. HARDY'S TALK 2888 01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:39,200 YESTERDAY. 2889 01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:40,040 WE'LL VISIT A SELECTION OF THESE 2890 01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:42,400 OVER THE COURSE OF THE 2891 01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,600 PRESENTATION AND SHARE SOME 2892 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,440 GUIDANCE REFERENCES WE'VE BEEN 2893 01:46:48,440 --> 01:46:48,840 DEVELOPING. 2894 01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:51,720 WE HAVE A SISTER ORGANIZATION 2895 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,480 ENGAGING IN SEVERAL PLANT 2896 01:46:53,480 --> 01:46:54,320 HARVEST SUSTAINABILITY STUDIES 2897 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,720 THAT I'LL MENTION AT THE END OF 2898 01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,280 THE PRESENTATION. 2899 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,840 SO, HERE'S A SUMMARY OF OUR 2900 01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:03,120 SCOPE. 2901 01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:08,560 FOUNDED IN 1982, WITH CONTINUING 2902 01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,600 MISSION, AT OUR 40th 2903 01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:12,600 ANNIVERSARY WE HAVE OVER 400 2904 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,080 MEMBERS AND AFFILIATES, DOMESTIC 2905 01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:17,120 AND INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES THAT 2906 01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:18,440 GROW, PROCESS, MANUFACTURE, 2907 01:47:18,440 --> 01:47:19,760 MARKET, HERBS AND PRODUCTS 2908 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,840 INCLUDING DIETARY SUPPLEMENT AND 2909 01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:24,080 OTHER TRADE CATEGORIES. 2910 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:28,080 WE FOCUS ON A VARIETY OF AREAS 2911 01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:29,480 INCLUDING REPRESENTING INDUSTRY 2912 01:47:29,480 --> 01:47:31,120 EXPERTISE IN THINKING TO 2913 01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:31,920 REGULATORS AND LEGISLATORS, 2914 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,760 PROVIDING INDUSTRY MEMBERS WITH 2915 01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:36,160 EDUCATIONAL AND TRAINING TO GIVE 2916 01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:40,200 THEM FULL ACCESS TO BEST 2917 01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:45,320 PRACTICES, GUIDANCE ON 2918 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:46,160 RESPONSIBILITIES IN THOSE 2919 01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,120 REGULATORY AND CURRENT BEST 2920 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:49,920 PRACTICE AREAS. 2921 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,840 WE HAVE COMMUNICATION, IN 2922 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,880 SELF-REGULATORY WE HAVE A COUPLE 2923 01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:58,600 ETHICS, NOMENCLATURE TOOLS TO 2924 01:47:58,600 --> 01:47:59,480 PROVIDE COMMON NAMES CAME UP 2925 01:47:59,480 --> 01:48:01,120 WITH DR. BETZ ON LABELING 2926 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:01,880 REQUIREMENTS ON MONDAY. 2927 01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,080 AND WE DID HEAR ALSO ABOUT SOME 2928 01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:06,760 OF THE INGREDIENTS, STANDARDS, 2929 01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,560 CHARACTERIZATION THAT'S REQUIRED 2930 01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,920 IN THE REGULATORY STRUCTURE FOR 2931 01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:14,400 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS IN DR. 2932 01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,120 KUSZAK'S PRESENTATION YESTERDAY. 2933 01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:19,200 SO, AHPA HAS COLLABORATIVE 2934 01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:22,080 PARTNERSHIPS WITH ORGANIZATIONS 2935 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:23,120 SUCH AS ANALYTICAL COLLABORATION 2936 01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,840 INTERNATIONAL, HERE AT NIH THE 2937 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,360 NATIONAL CENTER FOR 2938 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:26,960 COMPLEMENTARY AND INTEGRATIVE 2939 01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,400 HEALTH, OFFICE OF DIETARY 2940 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,400 SUPPLEMENTS, UNITED STATES 2941 01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:32,120 PHARMACOPEIA AND OTHERS. 2942 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:36,080 SO I'M GOING TO START BY LOOKING 2943 01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:37,520 OVER A FEW SELF-REGULATORY 2944 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,120 ACTIVITIES IN THE FIRST 40 2945 01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,360 YEARS, TRADE REQUIREMENTS, 2946 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,960 GUIDANCE, EDUCATIONAL 2947 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,640 REQUIREMENTS AND TOOLS. 2948 01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:48,640 FIRST, PUBLISHED IN 1992, 2949 01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:50,720 INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE AND 2950 01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:54,400 FDA RULE IN 1997, SECOND EDITION 2951 01:48:54,400 --> 01:49:04,880 IN 2000 HAD 2,000 INGREDIENTS. 2952 01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:08,840 WE'VE PRODUCED GUIDANCE IN A 2953 01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:10,880 LARGE VARIETY OF AREAS INCLUDING 2954 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,320 GOOD AGRICULTURE AND COLLECTIVE 2955 01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:15,280 PRACTICES IN GENERAL AS WELL AS 2956 01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:16,480 MORE SPECIES SPECIFIC CASES. 2957 01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:19,040 WE HAVE SOME GOOD STEWARDSHIP 2958 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,040 HARVESTING ACTIVITIES WHICH WILL 2959 01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,360 COME UP LATER IN THIS TALK. 2960 01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,760 ALL OF THESE -- OOPS. 2961 01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:30,640 ALL OF THESE ARE AVAILABLE 2962 01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:35,720 THROUGH OUR WEBSITE 2963 01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,640 YOU HAVE MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, SEND 2964 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:41,560 A NOTE OR GET IN TOUCH THAT WAY. 2965 01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:48,000 SO, LOOKING AT THE EDUCATIONAL 2966 01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:49,360 SPACE, YEARLY CONGRESS, 2967 01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:50,480 WORKSHOPS, PROVIDE SELF-SERVICE 2968 01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:51,840 ONLINE TOOLS TO HELP TECHNICAL 2969 01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:57,000 EXPERTS DO THEIR WORK BETTER. 2970 01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:02,640 ONE OF THESE IS COMPENDIUM WITH 2971 01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,640 REGARD TO IDENTITY OPERATIONS, 2972 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,960 ON A VARIETY OF COMMONLY USED 2973 01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,600 INGREDIENTS. 2974 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,800 WE HAVE A SAFETY TEXT OFFICE, 2975 01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,480 WHICH COLLECTS REVIEW ARTICLES, 2976 01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:14,080 DISCUSSING SAFETY INFORMATION, 2977 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:18,360 FIRST EDITION HAD ABOUT 500 2978 01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:27,960 HERBS, SECOND EXPANDED THAT TO 2979 01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:28,480 700. 2980 01:50:28,480 --> 01:50:33,800 AND THAT TALKS ABOUT THE DRUG 2981 01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:34,360 INTERACTION POTENTIAL. 2982 01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,080 IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING 2983 01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,600 ACCESS, WANT TO SHOOT ME A NOTE 2984 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,800 I CAN DO A COMPLEMENTARY 2985 01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:44,080 ACCOUNT. 2986 01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:47,120 AHPA PROVIDES ANALYTICAL REVIEW 2987 01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:48,280 NDI NOTIFICATIONS RELEASED BY 2988 01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:54,920 FDA TO OPTIMIZE TIME NEEDED WHEN 2989 01:50:54,920 --> 01:51:00,040 WORKING WITH THIS CLASS OF SORT 2990 01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:00,360 OF DOCUMENTS. 2991 01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,000 WE HAVE A FEW TOOLS FOR 2992 01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:04,680 CONSUMERS INCLUDING FIELD GUIDES 2993 01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,400 TO TALK ABOUT HERBAL DIETARY 2994 01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:08,400 SUPPLEMENTS, YEARLY EDUCATIONAL 2995 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:09,680 EVENT THAT CELEBRATES IMPORTANCE 2996 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,520 OF HERBS AND HERBAL PRODUCTS, 2997 01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:13,880 AND SOME GOOD STEWARDSHIP 2998 01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:15,840 HARVESTING INFORMATION ON NOW WE 2999 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:25,520 HAVE THREE HERBS, AMERICAN WILD 3000 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,000 GINSENG, PALMETTO, OSHA. 3001 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,680 SO WE'LL LOOK AT A QUICK 3002 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,440 OVERVIEW OF WHAT AHPA HAS BEEN 3003 01:51:32,440 --> 01:51:37,520 UP TO WITH REGARD TO REGULATORS. 3004 01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:41,200 OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS WE'VE 3005 01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:45,320 BEEN ENGAGED WITH CLAIMS 3006 01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:46,720 REGULATION, ORGANIC LABELING, 3007 01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:52,120 REVISION TO ADVERSE EVENT LAWS, 3008 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,720 AS WELL AS DRAFT GUIDANCE AND 3009 01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:57,880 FSMA WHICH EXPANDS REGULATORY 3010 01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:59,480 COVERAGE IN DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS 3011 01:51:59,480 --> 01:52:04,560 ALREADY TO MORE FOODS IN 3012 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:04,800 GENERAL. 3013 01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,960 IN THIS AREA WE ALSO HAVE BEEN 3014 01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,120 DIRECTING OUR ATTENTION TOWARD 3015 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:11,440 EFFICIENT USE OF REGULATORY 3016 01:52:11,440 --> 01:52:13,440 RESOURCES, SO WE HAD A BIG SET 3017 01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:15,520 OF COMMENTS WE SUBMITTED IN 2017 3018 01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:19,040 LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE COULD 3019 01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:21,920 APPROACH USING RESOURCES 3020 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:30,120 AVAILABLE TO ENSURE OUR PUBLIC 3021 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,520 HEALTH. 3022 01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,920 WORKING WITH REGULATORS, WE HAVE 3023 01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:35,280 ALSO TEAMED UP WITH SOME 3024 01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,840 COLLEAGUES, SOME ARE HERE TODAY 3025 01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:40,960 AS WELL, TO CONDUCT REGULAR 3026 01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,880 REGULATORY SUMMITS TALKING 3027 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,760 ABOUT SHARED GOALS OF HELPING 3028 01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:50,560 CONSUMERS HAVE CONTINUED ACCESS 3029 01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,640 TO HIGH QUALITY SUPPLEMENTS. 3030 01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:58,280 SO GETTING TOWARD THE END OF THE 3031 01:52:58,280 --> 01:52:59,440 PRESENTATION CONTINUING 3032 01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:01,680 ENGAGEMENT IN LEGISLATIVE AREA 3033 01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:02,680 TO SUPPORT TRANSPARENT 3034 01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:04,640 DISCUSSION OF THESE NEW 3035 01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:06,760 FRAMEWORKS LIKE HEMP FARMING ACT 3036 01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:08,000 OR POTENTIAL NEXT GENERATION 3037 01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,240 TOOLS TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT OUR 3038 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,080 MARKETPLACE IN THE UNITED STATES 3039 01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:16,960 IS THE WORLD'S BEST. 3040 01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,280 AND RELIABLE ACCESS TO WIDE 3041 01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:27,040 RANGE OF SAFE AND EFFICIENTLY 3042 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:27,880 REGULATED PRODUCTS. 3043 01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:34,600 SO, THE FLIP SIDE TO WHAT AHPA 3044 01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:37,440 DOING, OUR RESEARCH FOUNDATION 3045 01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:39,560 IS FOCUSED ON PROMOTING 3046 01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:42,520 EDUCATION RESEARCH ON MEDICINAL 3047 01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,080 AND THERAPEUTIC HERBS, OUR AREA 3048 01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:46,560 OF FOCUS, TALKING MOSTLY IN THE 3049 01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,280 LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT HARVEST 3050 01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:49,480 SUSTAINABILITY QUESTIONS FOR 3051 01:53:49,480 --> 01:53:51,000 HERBS AVAILABLE DOMESTICALLY IN 3052 01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,360 THE UNITED STATES. 3053 01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:58,400 SO, MOST RECENTLY WE CONDUCTED A 3054 01:53:58,400 --> 01:53:59,920 STUDY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH 3055 01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:04,120 UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS ON OSHA 3056 01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:09,160 HARVEST SUSTAINABILITY, NOW IN 3057 01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,160 EXTENDED STATE, WE'VE BEGUN 3058 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,960 STUDY ON GOLDENSEAL SUSTAINABLE 3059 01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,200 HARVESTING, I THINK THERE'S 3060 01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,360 PUBLIC REPORTS EXPECTED SOON ON 3061 01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:17,960 THAT ONE. 3062 01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,040 AND WE HAVE AN RFP CURRENTLY, IF 3063 01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:22,400 YOU HAVE FRIENDS INTERESTED IN 3064 01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,520 FIELD WORK AND WANT TO TAKE A 3065 01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:27,440 LOOK AT SLIPPERY ELM POPULATION 3066 01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:28,600 IN THE UNITED STATES. 3067 01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,880 I THINK THAT GETS ME TO THE END 3068 01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:32,640 OF MY OVERVIEW. 3069 01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:33,840 HOPEFULLY I GOT YOU A COUPLE 3070 01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:40,960 MINUTES BACK ON THE SCHEDULE. 3071 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,480 LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING 3072 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:43,560 QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION. 3073 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:44,680 >> THANK YOU, MERLE. 3074 01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:48,320 ALWAYS INTERESTING TO HEAR WHAT 3075 01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:49,880 AHPA IS UP TO. 3076 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:51,800 WE'RE STARTING TO GET QUESTIONS. 3077 01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:53,880 WHEN WE GET TO THE PANEL 3078 01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,840 DISCUSSION I'M SURE YOU'LL BE 3079 01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:57,120 REENGAGED. 3080 01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:02,200 SO NOW IT'S A PLEASURE TO 3081 01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:03,840 INTRODUCE MR. BRIAN WOMMACK, 3082 01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,840 COUNCIL FOR RESPONSIBLE 3083 01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:07,880 NUTRITION, ANOTHER OF THE TRADE 3084 01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:08,440 ASSOCIATIONS IN THIS SPACE. 3085 01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,760 I'D LIKE TO CALL ON YOU, BRIAN, 3086 01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:15,080 TO LET US KNOW WHAT CRN DOES. 3087 01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:16,120 >> THANK YOU, DR. COATES. 3088 01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:26,560 LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN. 3089 01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:30,560 THERE WE GO. 3090 01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,400 DOES EVERYBODY SEE THAT OKAY? 3091 01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:34,600 >> YES, INDEED. 3092 01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:35,560 >> GOOD. 3093 01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,920 THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION. 3094 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:44,160 I WANT TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE CRN. 3095 01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:48,080 YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A STAFF OF 3096 01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:52,200 ABOUT 19, I HAVE 120 VOTING 3097 01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:55,320 MEMBERS, DEFINED AS A COMPANY 3098 01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:56,080 THAT EITHER PRODUCES FINISHED 3099 01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:57,640 PRODUCTS OR INGREDIENTS THAT GO 3100 01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:01,720 INTO THOSE PRODUCTS, AND WE'VE82 3101 01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,640 GOT ASSOCIATE MEMBERS WHICH 3102 01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:05,920 ARE ENTITIES THAT SUPPORT THE 3103 01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:07,080 VOTING MEMBERS. 3104 01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:08,800 IT'S EVERYTHING FROM TESTING 3105 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,120 LABS, LAW FIRMS, PR FIRMS, THAT 3106 01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:13,040 SORT OF THING. 3107 01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:14,880 WE'RE ABOUT TO CELEBRATE OUR 3108 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:18,080 50th BIRTHDAY, WE'RE EXCITED 3109 01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:18,560 ABOUT THAT. 3110 01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:20,120 LIKE THE TWO YOU HEARD BEFORE ME 3111 01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,280 WE DO A LOT OF THINGS YOU WOULD 3112 01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:23,720 EXPECT A TRADE ASSOCIATION TO 3113 01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:27,440 DO. 3114 01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:29,400 I LEAD COMMUNICATIONS 3115 01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,760 DEPARTMENT, I'M A RECOVERING 3116 01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:34,160 LAWYER AND RECOVERING LOBBYIST, 3117 01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:38,120 WE HAVE A FULL SCIENCE 3118 01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:39,000 DEPARTMENT, EXPERTISE, IN 3119 01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:39,800 ADDITION TO COMMUNICATION, 3120 01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:41,200 GOVERNMENT RELATION IS A BIG 3121 01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:41,600 PART. 3122 01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:45,280 I GET ASKED IF I'M A LOBBYIST, 3123 01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:46,640 I'M NOT ANY LONGER BUT I HAVE 3124 01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:48,120 BEEN BEFORE. 3125 01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:51,680 HERE YOU SEE SOME BRANDS THAT WE 3126 01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:51,960 REPRESENT. 3127 01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:53,280 A SNAPSHOT OF SOME. 3128 01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:59,520 HOPEFULLY YOU RECOGNIZE SOME, 3129 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:06,280 MAYBE HAVE SOME IN YOUR MEDICINE 3130 01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:06,560 CABINET. 3131 01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:11,560 WE EXIST TO ENHANCE AND SUSTAIN 3132 01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,560 A CLIMATE TO MANUFACTURE 3133 01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:14,720 NUTRITIONAL INGREDIENTS AND 3134 01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:19,440 START WITH WHAT'S AT OUR CORE. 3135 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,360 WE NEVER FORGET THAT RESPONSIBLE 3136 01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:23,520 IS OUR MIDDLE NAME. 3137 01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:24,840 WE TRY TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING 3138 01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:28,000 WE DO AND OUR MEMBERS DO TO 3139 01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:29,720 EXTEND OUR MISSION KEEPS THAT IN 3140 01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:29,920 MIND. 3141 01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:32,760 AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A 3142 01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:38,160 FEW THINGS WE DO TO TRY TO KEEP 3143 01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:41,840 THAT EVERY PRESENT. 3144 01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:42,360 CONSUMER SAFETY, PRODUCT 3145 01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,800 INTEGRITY, MAKING SURE WE'VE GOT 3146 01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:51,440 A FULLY TRANSPARENT AND ACCURATE 3147 01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,240 CONSUMER MARKET. 3148 01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,560 THESE ARE THE THREE PRONGS OF 3149 01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:57,640 RESPONSIBLE INDUSTRY BEHAVIOR, 3150 01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:00,400 WE'RE IN SOME OF THE SAME TYPE 3151 01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:02,600 OF THINGS, WE COOPERATE AMONGST 3152 01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,120 OURSELVES AS AN INDUSTRY. 3153 01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,320 A LOT OF THE INDUSTRY 3154 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,920 ASSOCIATION THAT YOU HEARD 3155 01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:10,280 ABOUT, JAY AND MERLE TALKED 3156 01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:13,560 ABOUT, THINGS WE COLLABORATE ON. 3157 01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:15,960 A LOT ARE MULTI-ASSOCIATION 3158 01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:16,440 EFFORTS. 3159 01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,520 WE'RE VERY ACTIVE ENGAGING WITH 3160 01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:22,040 BOTH OF OUR PRIMARY REGULATORS, 3161 01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,440 FDA AND FTC, TO MAKE SURE WE 3162 01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:27,640 AMPLIFY MESSAGES THEY PUT OUT 3163 01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:27,840 THERE. 3164 01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:28,800 WHETHER THAT'S CRACKING DOWN ON 3165 01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:30,320 A COMPANY BREAKING THE LAW OR 3166 01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,760 MAKING SURE OUR MEMBERS KNOW 3167 01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:36,640 ABOUT SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT. 3168 01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:37,840 WE'RE ALSO VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE 3169 01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:39,600 FACT THAT THESE AGENCIES ARE 3170 01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:41,280 OFTEN NOT AS WELL FUNDED AS THEY 3171 01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:44,760 OUGHT TO BE AND SO WE DO 3172 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:46,440 REGULARLY ADVOCATE FOR 3173 01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:50,280 ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT BUT FOR 3174 01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,200 BOTH OF THEM. 3175 01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:53,640 SO, I DESCRIBED A LOT OF 3176 01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:55,480 COOPERATION WITH THE FDA. 3177 01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:56,800 WE SOMETIMES DON'T ALWAYS SEE 3178 01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,240 THINGS QUITE THE SAME WAY. 3179 01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:02,640 ONE OF THOSE AREAS UNFORTUNATELY 3180 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,160 HAS BEEN CBD. 3181 01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:07,240 SINCE THE 2018 FARM BILL THIS 3182 01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:08,160 HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. 3183 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:12,520 IT'S BEEN A LACK OF REGULATORY 3184 01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:15,680 CLARITY AROUND CBD AS A DIETARY 3185 01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:17,600 INGREDIENT FOR USE IN 3186 01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:18,240 SUPPLEMENTS. 3187 01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:19,440 THE FDA HAS SPOKEN AT TIMES AS 3188 01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:23,320 IF THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE. 3189 01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,800 BUT IT'S MORE A QUESTION 3190 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,240 FUNDAMENTAL TO DSHEA AS WE HEARD 3191 01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,080 IN FIRST SESSIONS ON DAY 1 3192 01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,360 THERE'S A RACE TO MARKET BETWEEN 3193 01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:34,280 A PHARMACEUTICAL USE AND 3194 01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,080 SUPPLEMENT USE, AND IN THIS CASE 3195 01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:37,320 PHARMACEUTICAL USE GOT THERE 3196 01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:47,840 FIRST SO IT'S A MATTER OF DRUG 3197 01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:56,480 PRECLUSION LANGUAGE. 3198 01:59:56,480 --> 02:00:00,000 IT'S CREATED AN UNCERTAIN 3199 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,520 MARKETPLACE WHERE THINGS AREN'T 3200 02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:02,720 ENFORCED, DEVELOPED A PATCHWORK 3201 02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:05,000 OF REGULATIONS WHICH WE DON'T 3202 02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:07,120 THINK IS A GOOD THING EITHER FOR 3203 02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:08,280 COMPANIES OR CONSUMERS. 3204 02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:10,000 ACTIVITIES WE'VE ENGAGED IN 3205 02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,960 AROUND CBD TO CLARIFY THINGS, WE 3206 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:14,240 SUBMITTED A CITIZENS PETITION 3207 02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:15,080 EARLY ON. 3208 02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:17,720 WE'VE ISSUED WHITE PAPER TO MAKE 3209 02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:18,480 SURE STAKEHOLDERS UNDERSTAND 3210 02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:20,760 EVERYTHING GOING ON HERE. 3211 02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:23,960 AND WHY WE GET RILED UP ABOUT 3212 02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:24,600 THIS. 3213 02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:25,480 AND WE'VE ADVOCATED FOR A 3214 02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:31,160 LEGISLATIVE FIX IN THE FORM OF 3215 02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:32,880 H.R. 841. 3216 02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:33,800 TURNING TO SELF-REGULATION, I 3217 02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:36,160 WANT TO GIVE A QUICK TOUR OF A 3218 02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,960 COUPLE THINGS THAT WE PROMOTE 3219 02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:41,440 WITH OUR MEMBERS. 3220 02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,880 YOU HEARD JAY TALK ABOUT SOME OF 3221 02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:47,480 THIS, WE HAVE MORE VOLUNTARY 3222 02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:49,240 GUIDELINES AND BEST PRACTICES 3223 02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,760 AROUND A NUMBER OF INGREDIENTS 3224 02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:54,160 THAT OUR MEMBERS ADHERE TO. 3225 02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,400 BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF HOW 3226 02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:57,640 THESE INGREDIENTS ARE TREATED, 3227 02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:58,960 IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DOSE SHOULD 3228 02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:00,960 BE, WHAT LABELING SHOULD BE, 3229 02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:02,240 THAT SORT OF THING. 3230 02:01:02,240 --> 02:01:05,800 JUST A WAY OF MAKING SURE THE 3231 02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:07,600 MARKETPLACE IS SAFE AND WELL 3232 02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:14,040 REGULATED AND THAT CAN INCLUDE 3233 02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:14,440 SELF-REGULATION. 3234 02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:16,200 YOU SEE OUR SIX ETHICAL PILLARS. 3235 02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:21,320 I WON'T READ THEM BUT THESE ARE 3236 02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:23,520 THE THINGS WE LOOK FOR WHEN 3237 02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,160 VETTING MEMBERS, WE'RE A 3238 02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:27,080 MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION THAT 3239 02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:28,640 VETS CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE 3240 02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:39,160 MEMBERS STICK TO THESE AS THEY 3241 02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,120 ARE MEMBERS. 3242 02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,880 ONLINE WELLNESS LIBRARY, A 3243 02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:52,480 VOLUNTARY PRODUCT REGISTRY, 3244 02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:59,960 CREATED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO 3245 02:01:59,960 --> 02:02:01,960 MANDATORY FOR CRN MEMBERS TO BE 3246 02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:05,920 IN IT, A DATABASE OF FULL 3247 02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:07,080 LABELS, WE ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO 3248 02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:09,760 BE IN IT, A FAIR NUMBER HAS 3249 02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:10,880 GOTTEN IN IT. 3250 02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:13,800 WE HOPED THAT IT WOULD FORM 3251 02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:15,840 PERHAPS A TEMPLATE OR BASIS THE 3252 02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:18,560 FDA MIGHT DO A MANDATORY 3253 02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:19,640 LISTING, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS 3254 02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:23,360 WITH THE FDA, WE KNOW THAT THEY 3255 02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:26,560 DO CHECK THE OWL, THEY ARE AWARE 3256 02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:28,880 OF IT AND PERHAPS THAT COULD BE 3257 02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:30,240 INTEGRATED IF A MANDATORY 3258 02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:32,120 PRODUCT LISTING DOES COME AT 3259 02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:33,080 SOME POINT. 3260 02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:35,880 RECENTLY WE HAD A FEW UPGRADES 3261 02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:36,960 AND ENHANCEMENTS, TRYING TO MAKE 3262 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:41,360 IT EASIER TO PUT LABELS IN, 3263 02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:42,800 ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S MANY 3264 02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,680 SIMILAR LABELS, YOU CAN IMAGINE 3265 02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:47,040 ALL THE SKEWS THAT A BIG COMPANY 3266 02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:47,960 MIGHT HAVE, WE MADE THAT EASIER 3267 02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:49,080 TO GET THOSE IN. 3268 02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:52,280 WE'VE MADE IT EASIER FOR THOSE 3269 02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:53,680 WHO USE IT, A BUSINESS OR 3270 02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:56,080 RETAILER WHO IS GOING TO LOOK AT 3271 02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:57,520 LABELS OR A CONSUMER WHO IS 3272 02:02:57,520 --> 02:02:59,320 USING THE OWL AND INCREASINGLY 3273 02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:05,320 CONSUMERS ARE CHECKING THE OWL 3274 02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:08,080 OUT. 3275 02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:09,720 WE'VE GOT THREE PATHWAYS, 3276 02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,360 DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR USER FACE 3277 02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:12,800 IS. 3278 02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,360 THIS IS WHY WE STARTED THE OWL. 3279 02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:17,160 IT FORMS THE BASIS FOR WHY WE 3280 02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,480 THINK A MANDATORY PRODUCT 3281 02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:20,800 LISTING IS ACTUALLY IMPORTANT, 3282 02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:22,360 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR REGULATOR TO 3283 02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:24,120 KNOW WHAT PRODUCTS AND BRANDS 3284 02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:26,360 ARE OUT THERE, AT PRESENT THE 3285 02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,840 FDA BY ITS OWN WORD SAYS IT 3286 02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:29,720 DOESN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT 3287 02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:32,760 PRODUCTS ARE ON THE MARKET. 3288 02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:33,640 DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY 3289 02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:35,720 PRODUCTS ARE ON THE MARKET. 3290 02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:36,600 SIMILARLY DOESN'T KNOW ALL THE 3291 02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:38,480 INGREDIENTS ARE ON THE MARKET, 3292 02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:39,720 WHICH PRODUCTS CONTAIN THEM. 3293 02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:43,760 SO WE THINK THAT THE OWL CAN BE 3294 02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,920 A WAY TO HELP WITH THAT IN THE 3295 02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:47,600 MEANTIME BUT WE THINK ULTIMATE 3296 02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:50,640 SOLUTION IS A MANDATORY PRODUCT 3297 02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:51,200 LISTING. 3298 02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:53,440 JAY TALKED ABOUT THAT. 3299 02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:56,840 WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF 3300 02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:58,560 MANDATORY PRODUCT LISTING, 3301 02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:01,440 THERE'S A COUPLE LEGISLATIVE 3302 02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:04,080 VEHICLES MOVING, WE'RE INVOLVED 3303 02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:06,360 IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BUT THE 3304 02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:07,440 LISTING WOULD ESSENTIALLY 3305 02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:09,880 PROVIDE DATA ON SIZE AND SCOPE 3306 02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:12,520 OF INDUSTRY, WOULD HELP 3307 02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:13,440 DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN FRAUDULENT 3308 02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,920 AND DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, IN A 3309 02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:19,680 CRISIS WHEN THE FDA NEEDS TO 3310 02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:21,560 PRODUCTS WITH A PARTICULAR 3311 02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:22,760 INGREDIENT, COULD BE HELPFUL. 3312 02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:25,320 WE THINK IT WILL PROMOTE GOOD 3313 02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:27,200 MANUFACTURING COMPLIANCE, IT'S A 3314 02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:28,520 NEW ENFORCEMENT TOOL BECAUSE 3315 02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,960 THOSE WHO DON'T COMPLY IT WOULD 3316 02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:42,320 BE AN EASILY PROVEABLE 3317 02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:49,160 ADMINISTRATIVE VIOLATION. 3318 02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:52,160 PRODUCT LABELS CONTINUES, WE PUT 3319 02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:54,200 TOGETHER TO GATHER INFORMATION 3320 02:04:54,200 --> 02:05:04,720 ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN 3321 02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:09,560 VITAMIN D AND COVID, AROUND 3322 02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:10,840 COVID AND VITAMIN D. 3323 02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:13,160 THERE'S A FEW SCREEN SHOTS OF 3324 02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:18,320 SOME OF THE INTERVIEWS THERE, 3325 02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:20,960 VITAMIN D AND ME, A LINK FROM 3326 02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:23,160 THE WEBSITE AT THE END OF MY 3327 02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:24,760 PRESENTATION, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO 3328 02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:27,120 CHECK THAT OUT, A LOT OF GOOD 3329 02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:30,200 INFORMATION THERE. 3330 02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:33,240 FOR PROBIOTICS, WE BECAME AWARE 3331 02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:35,480 THAT RETAIL BUYERS HAD CONFUSION 3332 02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,840 AROUND PROBIOTICS, DIDN'T KNOW 3333 02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:41,840 HOW TO CURATE, THIS PRODUCT IN 3334 02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:43,760 SOME CASES SAT, NOT ALWAYS 3335 02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:45,480 UNDERSTANDING BENEFITS SO WE SAY 3336 02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:52,720 NEED FOR EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN, 3337 02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:54,240 LAUNCHED THIS LAST MARCH, IT 3338 02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:57,920 STARTED AS A RETAIL CAMPAIGN, WE 3339 02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,360 HAD A RETAIL BUYERS' GUIDE, 3340 02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:02,760 FOCUSING ON QUESTIONS FROM THEM, 3341 02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:03,840 A SCIENTIFIC WHITE PAPER MADE A 3342 02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:05,960 CASE FOR WHY PEOPLE MIGHT WANT 3343 02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:08,760 TO TAKE PROBIOTICS, WHAT THEY 3344 02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:11,040 ARE, HOW THEY CAN HELP, SERIES 3345 02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:12,960 OF INFOGRAPHICS AND EDUCATIONAL 3346 02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:22,520 VIDEOS, AND QUESTIONS THAT YOU 3347 02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:27,720 MIGHT ASK YOUR VENDOR. 3348 02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,000 WE RAN A CAMPAIGN BEGINNING IN 3349 02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,640 APRIL OF 2019 CALLED LABEL WISE, 3350 02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:34,520 TO INFORM ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT 3351 02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,200 WERE COMING THAT AT THAT POINT 3352 02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,640 WERE IN THE FUTURE, WE'VE ALL 3353 02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:42,320 SEEN THAT HAPPEN TO PRODUCT 3354 02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:44,240 LABELS IN OUR SPACE. 3355 02:06:44,240 --> 02:06:46,920 BECAUSE THERE WAS -- BECAUSE OF 3356 02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,720 THE PANDEMIC, DATES WERE MOVED 3357 02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:50,720 FORWARD, CONSUMERS ARE STILL 3358 02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:52,160 LEARNING ABOUT THESE, EVEN 3359 02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:56,160 THOUGH IT'S BEEN A WHILE, WE'VE 3360 02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,120 LEFT THE CAMPAIGN UP, MERGED 3361 02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:08,680 INTO A LABEL LITERARY SITE OVER 3362 02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:12,000 THE YEARS, WE ALSO HAVE A FACT 3363 02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,720 LABEL, AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR 3364 02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:16,680 CONSUMERS, THEY OUGHT TO KNOW 3365 02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:18,360 WHAT THINGS ON THE LABEL MEAN 3366 02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:19,880 AND HOW TO READ IT. 3367 02:07:19,880 --> 02:07:25,080 EITHER IN THE STORE OR IN A 3368 02:07:25,080 --> 02:07:26,160 PRODUCT DATABASE. 3369 02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:28,200 WE'LL CLOSE WITH A COUPLE 3370 02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:36,960 SNAPSHOTS FROM OUR ANNUAL 3371 02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:38,880 CONSUMER SURVEY, CRN CONDUCTS A 3372 02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:40,760 ROBUST SURVEY EVERY YEAR, FAIRLY 3373 02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:42,160 HIGH TRUST NUMBER WHICH IS 3374 02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:44,280 ENCOURAGING, ONE OF THE NUMBERS 3375 02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:47,960 WE ALWAYS WATCH IS HOW MANY 3376 02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:49,600 AMERICANS TAKE DIETARY 3377 02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:51,800 SUPPLEMENTS, 80% IS A HIGH WATER 3378 02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:52,000 MARK. 3379 02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:53,320 WE'VE NEVER SEEN IT THAT HIGH, 3380 02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:56,680 PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THIS AS 3381 02:07:56,680 --> 02:08:00,000 SOMETHING OF A NICHE MARKET, 3382 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,960 FOUR OUT OF FIVE TO ME IS NOT A 3383 02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:06,880 NICHE MARKET, WE NEED TO THINK 3384 02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:12,640 AND BEHAVE IN THOSE WAYS AS 3385 02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:12,840 WELL. 3386 02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:14,280 THOSE ARE OF SUPPLEMENT USERS, 3387 02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:16,960 HOW MANY USE EACH OF THOSE 3388 02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:18,000 VARIOUS CATEGORIES, NOT 3389 02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:19,440 SURPRISINGLY MOST SUPPLEMENT 3390 02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:22,040 USERS DO TAKE VITAMIN OR MINERAL 3391 02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:25,520 SUPPLEMENT, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW 3392 02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:26,360 THEY TRAIL. 3393 02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:28,960 ONE OTHER DATA POINT FROM THE 3394 02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:33,320 ANNUAL SURVEY THAT I LIKE TO 3395 02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:34,680 INCLUDE, THERE ARE CRITICS WHO 3396 02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:35,760 SAY PEOPLE WHO TAKE DIETARY 3397 02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:37,800 SUPPLEMENTS ARE TAKING IT AS A 3398 02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:40,000 MAGIC PILL, NOT ENGAGING IN 3399 02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,040 OTHER HEALTHY BEHAVIORS, TRYING 3400 02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:43,840 TO LET THIS BE SOMETHING THAT 3401 02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:45,560 CAN REPLACE THOSE THINGS. 3402 02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:48,800 THE RESEARCH SHOWS QUITE THE 3403 02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:49,480 CONTRARY. 3404 02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:54,400 YOU SEE HERE SUPPLEMENT USERS 3405 02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:57,280 TEND TO EAT A HEALTHIER DIET, 3406 02:08:57,280 --> 02:09:01,200 EXERCISE REGULARLY, VISION IT 3407 02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:04,160 DOCTORS -- VISIT DOCTORS MORE 3408 02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:05,600 FREQUENTLY, TEND TO BE LESS 3409 02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:08,720 SMOKERS, ASSOCIATED WITH A HOST 3410 02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:10,240 OF OTHER CONSTELLATION OF 3411 02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:11,720 HEALTHY BEHAVIOR, ONE PART OF 3412 02:09:11,720 --> 02:09:14,520 THAT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING SOMEONE 3413 02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:15,880 IS DOING THEORETICALLY TO 3414 02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:17,960 SUBSTITUTE WHICH WE STILL HEAR 3415 02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:21,400 THAT A LOT, THE DATA DOESN'T 3416 02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:21,600 SHOW. 3417 02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:22,320 A QUICK TOUR. 3418 02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:26,880 THAT'S HOW YOU REQUEST GET HOLD 3419 02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:28,000 OF ME. 3420 02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:29,240 ANY OF THE CAMPAIGNS OR 3421 02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:29,840 MATERIALS I TALKED ABOUT, 3422 02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:33,920 EVERYTHING IS AVAILABLE ON THE 3423 02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,440 WEBSITE, NOTHING IS PROPRIETARY, 3424 02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:37,440 BEHIND THE FIRE WALL. 3425 02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:39,240 CHECK IT OUT, IF YOU HAVE 3426 02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:42,360 QUESTIONS OR WANT TO GET 3427 02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:43,360 INVOLVED OR PARTNER, I'D BE 3428 02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:45,360 HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU. 3429 02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:46,240 GREAT TO BE HERE. 3430 02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:48,040 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 3431 02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:49,120 I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER 3432 02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:55,000 DISCUSSIONS. 3433 02:09:55,000 --> 02:10:01,440 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3434 02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:03,080 THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF 3435 02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:05,880 QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO TURN TO 3436 02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:06,200 DISCUSSION. 3437 02:10:06,200 --> 02:10:08,440 THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF 3438 02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:10,480 QUESTIONS POSTED ON THE Q&A. 3439 02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:18,800 I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO MORE, 3440 02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:19,200 FOLKS. 3441 02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:21,520 NOT EVERYBODY WILL HAVE SEEN THE 3442 02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,040 RESPONSES THAT SOME OF OUR 3443 02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:26,200 COLLEAGUES HAVE PROVIDED IN 3444 02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:28,200 RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS. 3445 02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:30,200 SO, A QUESTION FROM MARY LEE, 3446 02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:34,600 DUE TO THE VERY HIGH SALES OF 3447 02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:41,160 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, YOUR STATED 3448 02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:45,040 CONCERN FOR QUALITY AND SAFETY, 3449 02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:48,000 WHAT ABOUT THE ROLE OF MANDATORY 3450 02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,040 FEES TO WEED OUT BAD ACTORS? 3451 02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:52,160 THIS WAS POSED TO ALL OF THE 3452 02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:52,520 PANELISTS. 3453 02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:55,000 SO I'M GOING TO ASK IF IT'S OKAY 3454 02:10:55,000 --> 02:11:01,800 I'LL ASK YOU IN ORDER. 3455 02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:09,200 JAY, WHAT DOES CHPA, AHPA, AND 3456 02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:10,080 CRN THINK? 3457 02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:10,240 JAY? 3458 02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:12,120 >> GREAT QUESTION. 3459 02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:18,680 WE'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF 3460 02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:20,880 MANDATORY FEES WE'RE SUPPORTIVE 3461 02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:22,280 FOR INCREASED FDA FUNDING TO 3462 02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:24,280 TARGET THE BAD ACTORS AND TO 3463 02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:27,840 INCREASE INSPECTION AND PART OF 3464 02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:30,760 MY TALK I MENTIONED FDA 3465 02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:35,880 AUTHORIZATION OF THIRD PARTY GNP 3466 02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:37,920 INSPECTIONS WHICH WOULD INCREASE 3467 02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:39,000 THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS OF 3468 02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:40,400 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT FACILITIES 3469 02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:42,280 THAT WOULD HAPPEN. 3470 02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:45,760 AND THAT BY DOING SO FDA COULD 3471 02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:52,080 TARGET SOME OF THE PROBLEMATIC 3472 02:11:52,080 --> 02:11:55,880 AREAS, PARTICULAR WEIGHT LOSS, 3473 02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:56,680 SEXUAL ENHANCEMENT, 3474 02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:58,160 BODY-BUILDING CATEGORIES THAT 3475 02:11:58,160 --> 02:11:59,920 ARE PROBLEMS OR SHOW UP ON THE 3476 02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:00,600 AGENCY'S RADAR. 3477 02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:03,560 IF YOU DO THAT AND TARGET 3478 02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:04,960 HIGHER-RISK CATEGORIES WE COULD 3479 02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:07,160 PROBABLY CUT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY 3480 02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:11,520 ON THE INSTANCES OF THE ILLEGAL 3481 02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:13,200 ADULTERATED PRODUCTS OUT THERE. 3482 02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:15,920 >> MERLE, YOU RESPONDED IN THE 3483 02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:16,120 Q&A. 3484 02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:19,920 MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZE 3485 02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:20,360 THAT. 3486 02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:21,480 >> SO, AHPA IS ENGAGED IN 3487 02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:24,240 LOOKING AT EFFICIENT USE OF 3488 02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:25,800 RESOURCES, NOTHING COMES WITHOUT 3489 02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:29,760 A PRICE SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 3490 02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:31,040 FEES DON'T DISPROPORTIONATELY 3491 02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:33,040 AFFECT SMALL BUSINESSES, AND 3492 02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:33,600 FOLKS PURSUING THE AMERICAN 3493 02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:36,480 DREAM MORE THAN THEY WOULD 3494 02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:38,760 ANYONE ELSE, THERE'S A LOT OF 3495 02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:40,360 EXCITING TOOLS THE AGENCIES HAVE 3496 02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:42,840 COME UP WITH WHICH WOULD MAKE A 3497 02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:44,520 GREAT EVENT FOR A SECOND ODS 3498 02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:50,200 AFTER THIS ONE. 3499 02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:50,600 >> SURE. 3500 02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:51,040 BRIAN? 3501 02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:54,040 >> I'M NOT ABLE TO SAY THAT MY 3502 02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:55,080 ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS MANDATORY 3503 02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:57,520 FEES ON OUR MEMBERS BUT WE DO 3504 02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:00,640 CERTAINLY SEE THE NEED FOR 3505 02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:01,880 ROBUST INFECTIONS AND SUPPORT 3506 02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:03,920 ADEQUATE FUNDING TO MAKE THAT 3507 02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:04,960 HAPPEN. 3508 02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:07,400 >> THIS QUESTION WILL COME UP IN 3509 02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:09,480 THE CONTEXT OF SOME OF THE OTHER 3510 02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:11,680 DISCUSSION POINTS, BUT RESOURCES 3511 02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:14,800 FOR THE FDA, THIS IS OFTEN 3512 02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:18,640 SPOKEN ABOUT BY INDUSTRY TRADE 3513 02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:19,040 ASSOCIATIONS. 3514 02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:20,840 I GUESS A QUESTION THAT I COULD 3515 02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:24,240 ASK YOU WITHOUT BEING TOO 3516 02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:25,200 CHALLENGING, FOLKS, WHY HASN'T 3517 02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:26,200 IT HAPPENED? 3518 02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:30,600 WHY HASN'T THERE BEEN INCREASED 3519 02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:32,040 RESOURCE ALLOCATION FOR THIS, 3520 02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:34,640 AND WHAT THE FDA DOES? 3521 02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:35,360 >> MERLE HERE. 3522 02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:39,120 I'D BE HAPPY TO JUMP IN. 3523 02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:41,240 I BELIEVE CONGRESS IS TRYING TO 3524 02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:42,160 MAKE SURE BUDGETS BALANCE 3525 02:13:42,160 --> 02:13:46,240 SOMETIMES BUT WE ALSO HAVE SEEN 3526 02:13:46,240 --> 02:13:47,640 FDA USING NICE PRIORITIZATION 3527 02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:49,840 AND SORTING TOOLS PROVIDING MORE 3528 02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:52,600 ATTENTION TO FACILITIES THAT 3529 02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:54,560 THEY HAVE ESTIMATED HAVING A 3530 02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:55,600 HIGHER RISK PROFILE. 3531 02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:57,000 THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE REASON 3532 02:13:57,000 --> 02:13:58,760 IF YOU LOOK AT OVERVIEW OF DATA 3533 02:13:58,760 --> 02:13:59,840 WHAT FOLKS CONTINUING TO DO A 3534 02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:02,160 WONDERFUL JOB AND WE CAN SEE SO 3535 02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:04,240 IN THE STATE INSPECTIONS AREN'T 3536 02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:05,360 SEEING THEIR FEDERAL RESOURCES 3537 02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:08,240 BEING SPENT SORT OF 3538 02:14:08,240 --> 02:14:11,160 UNNECESSARILY TO SEE THE SAME 3539 02:14:11,160 --> 02:14:16,480 BARS OF EXCELLENCE. 3540 02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:17,720 >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 3541 02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:21,720 >> FROM OUR SURVEY DATA, THERE'S 3542 02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:24,760 INDICATIONS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC 3543 02:14:24,760 --> 02:14:25,600 TRUST THEIR DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS 3544 02:14:25,600 --> 02:14:26,760 FOR THE MOST PART. 3545 02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:29,440 IF THOSE NUMBERS WERE LOWER YOU 3546 02:14:29,440 --> 02:14:30,760 WOULD SEE A POLITICAL WILL FOR 3547 02:14:30,760 --> 02:14:33,120 MORE SPENDING IN THIS AREA. 3548 02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:35,240 THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY SOME BAD 3549 02:14:35,240 --> 02:14:36,320 ACTORS OUT THER AND BAD 3550 02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:37,880 PRODUCTS, BUT THERE ARE WAYS OF 3551 02:14:37,880 --> 02:14:39,120 AVOIDING THOSE. 3552 02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:42,040 YOU HAVE THREE GREAT 3553 02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:42,600 ORGANIZATIONS HERE WITH 3554 02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:44,160 FANTASTIC MEMBERS DOING THINGS 3555 02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:44,360 RIGHT. 3556 02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:45,880 IF YOU MAKE GOOD PRODUCTS 3557 02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:47,200 SELECTIONS YOU CAN STAY AWAY 3558 02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:47,800 FROM BAD ACTORS. 3559 02:14:47,800 --> 02:14:49,000 THE CHALLENGE IS FOR US TO GET 3560 02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:51,560 THAT WORD OUT THERE ARE SOME 3561 02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:52,880 DARK QUARTERS OF THIS INDUSTRY 3562 02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:55,040 WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF AND I 3563 02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:56,920 THINK ALL OF US SPEND A FAIR 3564 02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:58,800 AMOUNT OF TIME SHEDDING LIGHT ON 3565 02:14:58,800 --> 02:14:59,000 THAT. 3566 02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:01,120 IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT NEEDED. 3567 02:15:01,120 --> 02:15:03,800 I WISH THOSE PRODUCTS WEREN'T 3568 02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:07,000 OUT THERE FRANKLY AND THEY WERE 3569 02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:09,680 BEING STAMPED OUT BECAUSE THEY 3570 02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:12,040 ARE A POX ON ALL OF US BUT THERE 3571 02:15:12,040 --> 02:15:13,280 ARE WAYS OF AVOIDING IT, AND 3572 02:15:13,280 --> 02:15:15,320 MUCH OF THE PUBLIC DOES THAT, 3573 02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:22,640 THERE'S NOT A PUBLIC OUTCRY. 3574 02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:24,160 TO MERLE'S POINT THINGS GET 3575 02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:25,920 FUNDED ACCORDING TO WHAT PEOPLE 3576 02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:26,840 ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT. 3577 02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:29,520 >> WE SUPPORT THE INCREASES IN 3578 02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:30,360 FUNDING TO OFFICE OF DIETARY 3579 02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:33,160 SUPPLEMENT PRODUCTS OVER THE 3580 02:15:33,160 --> 02:15:34,880 YEARS, CERTAINLY YOU'LL SEE 3581 02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:38,200 CRITICISM IN THE TRADE PRESS 3582 02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:39,600 OCCASIONALLY ABOUT HOW FDA NEEDS 3583 02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:42,760 TO BE MORE FORCEFUL IN SOME OF 3584 02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:45,600 THESE ACTIONS THEY TAKE AGAINST 3585 02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:48,000 THE BAD ACTORS, AND TO SOME 3586 02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:49,360 EXTENT THAT'S TRUE. 3587 02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:51,520 I THINK FDA REALLY SHOULD CRACK 3588 02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:53,920 DOWN ON THESE FOLKS AND SEEK TO 3589 02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:57,480 MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THESE 3590 02:15:57,480 --> 02:16:00,400 PEOPLE THAT ARE FLAUNTING THE 3591 02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:02,080 LAW. 3592 02:16:02,080 --> 02:16:03,760 BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE ALWAYS 3593 02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:04,680 EXPRESSED A WILLINGNESS TO 3594 02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:08,160 SUPPORT FDA AS THEY GO AFTER 3595 02:16:08,160 --> 02:16:09,600 THESE FOLKS. 3596 02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:11,760 WE REPRESENT AS MERLE AND BRIAN 3597 02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:12,640 DO THE RESPONSIBLE COMPANIES 3598 02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:14,120 THAT ARE OUT THERE. 3599 02:16:14,120 --> 02:16:16,840 AND UNFORTUNATELY AS BRIAN 3600 02:16:16,840 --> 02:16:20,480 MENTIONED, IT'S A MINORITY OF 3601 02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,080 THE INDUSTRY, BUT THEY DO 3602 02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:23,480 TARNISH THE REST OF THE INDUSTRY 3603 02:16:23,480 --> 02:16:27,960 AND WE DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY 3604 02:16:27,960 --> 02:16:31,800 TO CALL THEM OUT, TO DO WHAT WE 3605 02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:33,800 CAN TO DECREASE INCIDENCE. 3606 02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:34,840 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3607 02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:36,760 I'M GOING TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE 3608 02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:39,600 IF YOU HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION 3609 02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:41,520 TO SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN 3610 02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:47,560 DISCUSSED DON'T HESITATE TO PUT 3611 02:16:47,560 --> 02:16:49,160 IT INTO THE Q&A I'M MONITORING 3612 02:16:49,160 --> 02:16:49,760 IN REAL TIME. 3613 02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:51,440 IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN 3614 02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:53,320 CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT 3615 02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:55,280 ANY OF THESE POINTS, I'LL DO MY 3616 02:16:55,280 --> 02:16:58,680 BEST TO KEEP YOU ENGAGED IN THE 3617 02:16:58,680 --> 02:16:59,320 CONVERSATION. 3618 02:16:59,320 --> 02:17:01,800 NEXT QUESTION THAT I SAW WAS 3619 02:17:01,800 --> 02:17:05,760 ALSO FROM MARY LEE, FROM THE 3620 02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:07,040 MANUFACTURER STANDPOINT, ARE 3621 02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:08,480 THERE CONCERNS ABOUT MARKETING 3622 02:17:08,480 --> 02:17:13,560 OF BOTANICAL SUPPLEMENTS NOT 3623 02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:15,920 CLEARLY TO HUMANS IN DOSAGE AND 3624 02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:17,480 FORM SOLD? 3625 02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:18,680 WHAT SHOULD THE MANUFACTURER'S 3626 02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:25,720 ROLE BE IN THAT CONTEXT? 3627 02:17:25,720 --> 02:17:26,880 I IMAGINE MERLE WOULD BE THE 3628 02:17:26,880 --> 02:17:28,480 FIRST TO RESPOND. 3629 02:17:28,480 --> 02:17:29,520 >> YEAH, I HAD THIS WONDERFUL 3630 02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,320 OPPORTUNITY TO BE A GUEST OF THE 3631 02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:34,520 KOREAN FDA, TO LOOK AT A BUNCH 3632 02:17:34,520 --> 02:17:36,640 OF WELLNESS PRACTICES, 3633 02:17:36,640 --> 02:17:37,560 DOMESTICALLY OVER THERE. 3634 02:17:37,560 --> 02:17:40,000 AND I FOUND IT REALLY EYE 3635 02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:41,560 OPENING TO KIND OF GET A LITTLE 3636 02:17:41,560 --> 02:17:42,800 BIT OF A BETTER UNDERSTANDING 3637 02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:45,360 FOR SOME PRODUCTS THAT I HAD 3638 02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:47,520 SEEN MANUFACTURED AND SOLD IN 3639 02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:49,920 OUR DOMESTIC MARKET DIRECTED 3640 02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:51,200 TOWARDS DIFFERENT CULTURAL 3641 02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:52,640 SUBSET OF PEOPLE LIVING HERE IN 3642 02:17:52,640 --> 02:17:55,160 THE UNITED STATES. 3643 02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:57,680 SO I THINK FROM THE MANUFACTURER 3644 02:17:57,680 --> 02:17:59,280 STANDPOINT, SOME OF THOSE 3645 02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:00,680 BENEFICIAL SORT OF PRACTICES 3646 02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:01,480 HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN LOCALIZED 3647 02:18:01,480 --> 02:18:04,440 OUT OF THEIR HNTE COU YET 3648 02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:06,520 AND THERE'S A RESPONSIBILITY AND 3649 02:18:06,520 --> 02:18:08,640 OPPORTUNITY FOR INDUSTRY TO LOOK 3650 02:18:08,640 --> 02:18:10,400 AT THE THIRD PARTY LITERATURE 3651 02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:12,880 THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE LAST 3652 02:18:12,880 --> 02:18:14,760 COUPLE DAYS AS A SOURCE FOR 3653 02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:16,560 SHARING INFORMATION AS PART OF 3654 02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:18,000 THE TOOLS TO MAKE MORE SENSE OF 3655 02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:24,600 WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN OUR MARKET. 3656 02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:26,480 >> JAY OR BRIAN, ANYTHING TO 3657 02:18:26,480 --> 02:18:27,240 ADD? 3658 02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:28,880 >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE 3659 02:18:28,880 --> 02:18:31,680 IF YOU'RE A MANUFACTURER OF A 3660 02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:33,360 SUPPLEMENT, AND YOU'RE MAKING 3661 02:18:33,360 --> 02:18:35,880 ANY TYPE OF CLAIM ON YOUR 3662 02:18:35,880 --> 02:18:40,280 PRODUCT, WHETHER IT BE 3663 02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:40,800 STRUCTURE/FUNCTION CLAIM, 3664 02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:42,520 GENERAL WELL-BEING, YOU HAVE TO 3665 02:18:42,520 --> 02:18:44,800 HAVE SUBSTANTIAL THAT THE CLAIM 3666 02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:46,520 IS TRUTHFUL AND NOT MISLEADING. 3667 02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:49,840 AND FDA HAS A GUIDANCE FOR THIS 3668 02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:54,000 THAT GOES OVER WHAT THE 3669 02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:55,880 SUBSTANTIATION STANDARD IS, HOW 3670 02:18:55,880 --> 02:18:57,200 YOU WOULD IDENTIFY THE MEANING 3671 02:18:57,200 --> 02:18:58,440 OF THE CLAIM, RELATIONSHIP OF 3672 02:18:58,440 --> 02:19:01,440 THE EVIDENCE TO THE CLAIM, SO AS 3673 02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:03,400 A MANUFACTURER YOU CAN'T JUST GO 3674 02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:06,040 OUT AND MAKE SOME WILD AND CRAZY 3675 02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:09,760 CLAIM UNLESS YOU HAVE 3676 02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:10,120 SUBSTANTIATION. 3677 02:19:10,120 --> 02:19:10,680 >> THANK YOU. 3678 02:19:10,680 --> 02:19:12,120 BRIAN, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON 3679 02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:12,320 THAT? 3680 02:19:12,320 --> 02:19:14,120 >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING 3681 02:19:14,120 --> 02:19:15,200 ELSE TO ADD. 3682 02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:16,680 FEELS LIKE IT'S WELL COVERED BY 3683 02:19:16,680 --> 02:19:19,160 MY COLLEAGUES ON THAT ONE. 3684 02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:19,840 >> GOOD, GOOD. 3685 02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:25,400 SO, HERE WAS A QUESTION, ARE 3686 02:19:25,400 --> 02:19:27,480 THERE PLANS FOR LABELING 3687 02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:30,440 RECOMMENDATION ON CANNABIS AND 3688 02:19:30,440 --> 02:19:31,080 PSILOCYBIN? 3689 02:19:31,080 --> 02:19:34,520 MERLE, YOU OFFERED A RESPONSE TO 3690 02:19:34,520 --> 02:19:34,960 THAT. 3691 02:19:34,960 --> 02:19:38,080 WOULD YOU CARE TO SUMMARIZE THAT 3692 02:19:38,080 --> 02:19:39,320 ANSWER SO EVERYBODY GETS A 3693 02:19:39,320 --> 02:19:40,760 CHANCE TO HEAR IT? 3694 02:19:40,760 --> 02:19:43,520 >> YEAH, HAPPY TO SUMMARIZE 3695 02:19:43,520 --> 02:19:43,880 THAT. 3696 02:19:43,880 --> 02:19:45,320 AHPA ENGAGED PREVIOUSLY IN 3697 02:19:45,320 --> 02:19:48,160 LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES IN 3698 02:19:48,160 --> 02:19:51,960 RELATION TO I THINK HEMP AND 3699 02:19:51,960 --> 02:19:52,600 CANNABIS-TYPE CROPS. 3700 02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:54,080 THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I 3701 02:19:54,080 --> 02:19:56,160 MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION. 3702 02:19:56,160 --> 02:19:58,120 WE ALSO THIS YEAR HAVE COMMITTEE 3703 02:19:58,120 --> 02:20:01,600 CHARTERED BY BOARD OF TRUSTEES 3704 02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:04,000 TO LOOK AT PSYCHEDELIC PLANTS 3705 02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:06,440 AND FUNGI IN THE SAME MANNER. 3706 02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:07,280 YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE 3707 02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:08,480 RECOMMENDATIONS GIVEN HOW WILD 3708 02:20:08,480 --> 02:20:10,600 WE ALL ARE AS FAR AS BEING 3709 02:20:10,600 --> 02:20:14,520 WORKAHOLICS IN THE NEXT YEAR OR 3710 02:20:14,520 --> 02:20:15,520 TWO. 3711 02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:16,040 >> OKAY. 3712 02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:18,760 IS THERE ANY ROLE CHPH OR CRN 3713 02:20:18,760 --> 02:20:21,960 PLAYED IN THIS SORT OF 3714 02:20:21,960 --> 02:20:24,400 DISCUSSION, JAY? 3715 02:20:24,400 --> 02:20:27,360 >> IN TERMS OF LABELING, NO, 3716 02:20:27,360 --> 02:20:29,640 BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW CBD RIGHT 3717 02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:31,960 NOW IS NOT TECHNICALLY A LEGAL 3718 02:20:31,960 --> 02:20:32,840 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT. 3719 02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:35,160 WE DID SUBMIT A CITIZEN PETITION 3720 02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:38,200 ABOUT 2 1/2 YEARS AGO, ASKING 3721 02:20:38,200 --> 02:20:41,920 FDA TO ESTABLISH A PATHWAY TO 3722 02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:45,040 ALLOW FOR EVIDENCE TO BE 3723 02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:47,440 EVALUATED CONCERNING THE SAFETY 3724 02:20:47,440 --> 02:20:48,080 OF CBD. 3725 02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:49,360 CERTAINLY AS YOU KNOW OVER THE 3726 02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:53,040 LAST COUPLE YEARS IT'S BEEN A 3727 02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:53,720 HOT TOPIC. 3728 02:20:53,720 --> 02:20:55,480 BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN RESPONDED 3729 02:20:55,480 --> 02:20:56,800 TO YET. 3730 02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:58,160 I KNOW OTHER ASSOCIATIONS 3731 02:20:58,160 --> 02:20:59,160 SUBMITTED PETITIONS AND TRIED TO 3732 02:20:59,160 --> 02:21:02,400 GET FDA TO ACT IN THIS REGARD 3733 02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:03,680 BUT IN TERMS OF ANYTHING WITH 3734 02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:07,000 LABELING WE HAVEN'T DONE 3735 02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:08,800 ANYTHING THERE. 3736 02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:09,480 >> OKAY. 3737 02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:10,600 BRIAN, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? 3738 02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:13,320 >> YEAH, OTHER THAN THE ADVOCACY 3739 02:21:13,320 --> 02:21:18,920 AROUND CBD, THE OTHER 3740 02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:21,240 INGREDIENTS ARE NOT IN OUR 3741 02:21:21,240 --> 02:21:21,960 PURVIEW. 3742 02:21:21,960 --> 02:21:23,680 >> THANK YOU. 3743 02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:25,120 THERE'S-- I'M SCROLLING DOWN 3744 02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:25,480 HERE. 3745 02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:32,360 THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT MERLE 3746 02:21:32,360 --> 02:21:34,480 ALSO ANSWERED. 3747 02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:38,600 ARE THERE INDEPENDENT BODIES, 3748 02:21:38,600 --> 02:21:40,800 FROM JOSEPH NATHAN, FOR EXAMPLE, 3749 02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:42,440 ACADEMIC CENTERS AND INSTITUTES, 3750 02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:43,920 AVAILABLE FOR CONSUMERS AND 3751 02:21:43,920 --> 02:21:46,840 HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS TO 3752 02:21:46,840 --> 02:21:48,040 PROVIDE OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE-BASED 3753 02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:49,760 CLINICAL INFORMATION ON SPECIFIC 3754 02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:50,440 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS? 3755 02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:56,760 IF NOT, DO YOU SEE A NEED FOR A 3756 02:21:56,760 --> 02:21:57,680 CENTER TO BE CREATED? 3757 02:21:57,680 --> 02:22:04,000 I'LL JUMP IN WITH A SEMI 3758 02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:05,400 RESPONSE, ALTHOUGH THE QUESTION 3759 02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:07,840 SEEMED TO FOCUS ON ACADEMIC 3760 02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:11,200 CENTERS AND INSTITUTES, THOSE 3761 02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:13,360 WHO HAVE BEEN AT THE PRACTICUM 3762 02:22:13,360 --> 02:22:15,080 THIS WEEK KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS 3763 02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:19,240 THAT THE OFFICE OF DIETARY 3764 02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:20,000 SUPPLEMENTS DOES IS PROVIDE 3765 02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:22,720 PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING 3766 02:22:22,720 --> 02:22:25,280 FOR THERE, WHICH OBJECTIVE 3767 02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:25,840 EVIDENCE-BASED CLINICAL 3768 02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:29,120 INFORMATION ABOUT A WHOLE RANGE 3769 02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:30,160 OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS. 3770 02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:32,360 ODS IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE THAT 3771 02:22:32,360 --> 02:22:34,360 DOES THIS. 3772 02:22:34,360 --> 02:22:35,840 THAT'S FOR SURE. 3773 02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:40,400 BUT THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AND 3774 02:22:40,400 --> 02:22:41,560 INDEPENDENT RESOURCE. 3775 02:22:41,560 --> 02:22:43,480 SIMILARLY NATIONAL CENTER FOR 3776 02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:44,360 COMPLEMENTARY AND INTEGRATIVE 3777 02:22:44,360 --> 02:22:48,280 HEALTH ALSO AT THE NIH PROVIDES 3778 02:22:48,280 --> 02:22:50,560 THOUGHTFUL REVIEWS THAT SEEM TO 3779 02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:52,600 ME TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT 3780 02:22:52,600 --> 02:22:56,120 WAS RAISED HERE. 3781 02:22:56,120 --> 02:22:57,880 AND IN ADDITION, MERLE, YOU MADE 3782 02:22:57,880 --> 02:23:00,080 AN INTERESTING COMMENT ABOUT 3783 02:23:00,080 --> 02:23:00,680 ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. 3784 02:23:00,680 --> 02:23:03,640 TELL THEM ABOUT IT PLEASE. 3785 02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:03,960 >> RIGHT. 3786 02:23:03,960 --> 02:23:06,320 SO, THERE'S A WONDERFUL GROUP AT 3787 02:23:06,320 --> 02:23:08,080 THE UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI 3788 02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:10,000 CALLED THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR 3789 02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:11,080 NATURAL PRODUCTS RESEARCH, WHICH 3790 02:23:11,080 --> 02:23:13,640 HAS A LOT OF WORK IN THE 3791 02:23:13,640 --> 02:23:15,480 BOTANICALS AREA. 3792 02:23:15,480 --> 02:23:17,480 THEY HAVE A REGULAR SORT OF 3793 02:23:17,480 --> 02:23:19,840 ACADEMIC CONFERENCE WITH POSTER 3794 02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:20,560 PRESENTATIONS CALLED OXFORD 3795 02:23:20,560 --> 02:23:24,520 ICSB, I SHARED THE LINK IN THE 3796 02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:26,560 Q&A. 3797 02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:27,880 I ATTENDED ONCE, FANTASTIC GROUP 3798 02:23:27,880 --> 02:23:30,880 OF PEOPLE, ALL OF US WITH BE 3799 02:23:30,880 --> 02:23:32,760 WELCOME TO SIT TOGETHER AND HEAR 3800 02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:34,640 THE LATEST THAT'S GOING ON IN 3801 02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:37,320 THE RESEARCH SPACE, THAT'S ITS 3802 02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:38,240 DIRECTION. 3803 02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:41,360 >> AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS 3804 02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:42,840 IS IN ADDITION TO THE MATERIAL 3805 02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:46,800 THAT ALL THREE OF YOU HAVE 3806 02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:51,640 TALKED ABOUT THAT'S PROVIDED BY 3807 02:23:51,640 --> 02:23:54,320 YOUR ORGANIZATIONS OR USING YOUR 3808 02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:55,840 ORGANIZATION'S ABILITY TO GET 3809 02:23:55,840 --> 02:23:56,880 THE WORD OUT. 3810 02:23:56,880 --> 02:24:02,440 I DID TAKE THE POINT ABOUT 3811 02:24:02,440 --> 02:24:04,200 INDEPENDENT, AND SO I DIDN'T 3812 02:24:04,200 --> 02:24:07,600 SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE YOU BUT I 3813 02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:08,880 DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK I WAS 3814 02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:13,480 BUT I GUESS THE WORD 3815 02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:15,880 "INDEPENDENT" HERE HAD 3816 02:24:15,880 --> 02:24:17,960 CONNOTATION FOR THE QUESTIONER. 3817 02:24:17,960 --> 02:24:21,600 ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS, 3818 02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:23,360 THIS NOTION OF AN INDEPENDENT 3819 02:24:23,360 --> 02:24:24,680 PERHAPS ACADEMIC BODY? 3820 02:24:24,680 --> 02:24:28,720 SHOULD IT BE CREATED TO DO WHAT 3821 02:24:28,720 --> 02:24:30,840 THE QUESTIONER WAS ASKING? 3822 02:24:30,840 --> 02:24:32,240 BRIAN, JAY? 3823 02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:33,240 >> THERE'S CERTAINLY CENTERS OF 3824 02:24:33,240 --> 02:24:34,600 EXCELLENCE AT LOTS OF 3825 02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:36,840 UNIVERSITIES ALREADY. 3826 02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:38,840 I'M NOT SURE IT NEEDS A MORE 3827 02:24:38,840 --> 02:24:41,040 FORMAL STRUCTURE. 3828 02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:42,920 I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S JUST A 3829 02:24:42,920 --> 02:24:44,280 REMINDER OF WHERE SOME CENTERS 3830 02:24:44,280 --> 02:24:52,400 OF EXCELLENCE ARE. 3831 02:24:52,400 --> 02:24:53,760 MERLE MENTIONED UNIVERSITY OF 3832 02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:55,320 MISSISSIPPI, A GREAT PLACE, 3833 02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:56,480 WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE 3834 02:24:56,480 --> 02:24:57,000 PROGRAM THERE. 3835 02:24:57,000 --> 02:25:00,840 TEXAS A & M IS DOING FANTASTIC 3836 02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:01,120 THINGS. 3837 02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:02,400 PURDUE, UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, 3838 02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:04,040 TUFTS, LOTS OF GREAT CENTERS OUT 3839 02:25:04,040 --> 02:25:05,640 THERE THAT ARE PROVIDING A LOT 3840 02:25:05,640 --> 02:25:10,360 OF INFORMATION AND ARE CERTAINLY 3841 02:25:10,360 --> 02:25:10,840 INDEPENDENT. 3842 02:25:10,840 --> 02:25:12,160 I MEAN, WHAT AM I MISSING BY 3843 02:25:12,160 --> 02:25:14,800 WHAT'S NOT ALREADY OUT THERE? 3844 02:25:14,800 --> 02:25:18,840 >> I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE 3845 02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:20,120 THERE WASN'T ANOTHER POINT TO BE 3846 02:25:20,120 --> 02:25:21,960 MADE ON THAT. 3847 02:25:21,960 --> 02:25:23,960 JAY, ANYTHING TO ADD? 3848 02:25:23,960 --> 02:25:25,840 >> YEAH, I'LL CERTAINLY PUT A 3849 02:25:25,840 --> 02:25:27,040 PLUG IN FOR NIH ODS. 3850 02:25:27,040 --> 02:25:29,360 THEY HAVE A GREAT WEBSITE THAT 3851 02:25:29,360 --> 02:25:30,760 YOU MENTIONED, PAUL. 3852 02:25:30,760 --> 02:25:32,800 I'LL ALSO NOTE ANOTHER REALLY 3853 02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:34,600 GOOD SITE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY 3854 02:25:34,600 --> 02:25:35,280 INDEPENDENT, IT'S ANOTHER -- I 3855 02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:36,800 DON'T KNOW IF THEY CONSIDER 3856 02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:38,080 THEMSELVES A TRADE ASSOCIATION 3857 02:25:38,080 --> 02:25:39,600 OR NOT BUT THE AMERICAN 3858 02:25:39,600 --> 02:25:40,240 BOTANICAL COUNCIL. 3859 02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:43,560 THEY HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION 3860 02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:46,480 ON THEIR SITE ABOUT HERBAL 3861 02:25:46,480 --> 02:25:49,160 PRODUCTS AND THEY HAVE 3862 02:25:49,160 --> 02:25:49,680 EDUCATION, SCIENCE-BASED 3863 02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:51,000 TRADITIONAL INFORMATION, THAT 3864 02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:52,720 SORT OF THING, PROMOTING THE 3865 02:25:52,720 --> 02:25:56,320 RESPONSIBLE USE OF HERBAL 3866 02:25:56,320 --> 02:25:57,760 MEDICINES AND, YOU KNOW, I'M 3867 02:25:57,760 --> 02:25:59,360 LOOKING ON THEIR WEBSITE. 3868 02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:00,960 THEY CALL THEMSELVES AN 3869 02:26:00,960 --> 02:26:01,560 INDEPENDENT NON-PROFIT SUPPORTED 3870 02:26:01,560 --> 02:26:03,240 BY THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS AROUND 3871 02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:04,360 THE WORLD. 3872 02:26:04,360 --> 02:26:06,160 REALLY SMART GUY, MARK 3873 02:26:06,160 --> 02:26:07,200 BLUMENTHAL, RUNS THE SHOW THERE 3874 02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:10,600 AND HAS LOTS OF REALLY GOOD 3875 02:26:10,600 --> 02:26:11,600 INFORMATION ABOUT INDIVIDUAL 3876 02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:11,880 BOTANICALS. 3877 02:26:11,880 --> 02:26:15,320 THEY HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE 3878 02:26:15,320 --> 02:26:16,520 BOTANICAL ADULT PREVENTION 3879 02:26:16,520 --> 02:26:19,400 PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDES INFO ON 3880 02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:20,760 HOW TO, YOU KNOW, AVOID BUYING A 3881 02:26:20,760 --> 02:26:25,120 PRODUCT THAT COULD BE 3882 02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:27,080 POTENTIALLY ADULTERATED, THINGS 3883 02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:28,720 LIKE THAT. 3884 02:26:28,720 --> 02:26:29,080 >> THANK YOU. 3885 02:26:29,080 --> 02:26:31,440 LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE A COUPLE 3886 02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:32,800 MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A 3887 02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:36,360 LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK. 3888 02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:39,280 CAROL STILLER ASKS, SEEMS TO BE 3889 02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:40,960 A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3890 02:26:40,960 --> 02:26:44,840 FDA RULES FOR DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 3891 02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:46,440 BOTANICALS AND BOTANICAL DRUG 3892 02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:46,680 PRODUCTS. 3893 02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:49,800 I GUESS THERE'S A QUESTION IN 3894 02:26:49,800 --> 02:26:50,160 THERE. 3895 02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:52,280 BUT PERHAPS MERLE COULD ADDRESS 3896 02:26:52,280 --> 02:26:53,520 THIS AND MAYBE ONE OR TWO OF THE 3897 02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:55,080 OTHERS COULD AS WELL. 3898 02:26:55,080 --> 02:26:57,040 >> YEAH, SO I THINK THE KEY TO 3899 02:26:57,040 --> 02:27:01,800 DIFFERENCES COMES DOWN TO THE 3900 02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:02,320 DIFFERENT LEGISLATIVE 3901 02:27:02,320 --> 02:27:03,680 REQUIREMENTS APPLIED TO THE TWO 3902 02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:03,960 CLASSES. 3903 02:27:03,960 --> 02:27:06,920 IF YOU WANT ANOTHER FUN WEEK OF 3904 02:27:06,920 --> 02:27:09,840 DISCUSSIONS I HAVE A THREE-HOUR 3905 02:27:09,840 --> 02:27:11,080 TALK ABOUT THE DIETARY 3906 02:27:11,080 --> 02:27:12,560 SUPPLEMENT REGULATION IN THE 3907 02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:14,400 U.S. THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE. 3908 02:27:14,400 --> 02:27:16,880 >> THANK YOU. 3909 02:27:16,880 --> 02:27:18,400 ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 3910 02:27:18,400 --> 02:27:20,040 SO HERE'S A QUESTION THAT I 3911 02:27:20,040 --> 02:27:22,040 THINK I'M GOING TO POSTPONE 3912 02:27:22,040 --> 02:27:23,440 UNTIL WE GET TO THE GENERAL 3913 02:27:23,440 --> 02:27:24,960 DISCUSSION AT THE END BUT I'LL 3914 02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:26,680 RAISE IT NOW SO THAT WE DON'T 3915 02:27:26,680 --> 02:27:28,800 FORGET IT. 3916 02:27:28,800 --> 02:27:31,120 ARE THERE LABORATORIES WHERE WE, 3917 02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:38,560 CONSUMERS, MAY BE ABLE TO SEND 3918 02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:44,680 PRODUCTS -- I APOLOGIZE, FOLKS. 3919 02:27:44,680 --> 02:27:51,920 THIS KEEPS MOVING AROUND. 3920 02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:54,240 3921 02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:56,920 AMAZING, THIS Q&A FUNCTION JUMPS 3922 02:27:56,920 --> 02:27:59,360 AROUND A LOT. 3923 02:27:59,360 --> 02:28:09,400 3924 02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:13,960 3925 02:28:13,960 --> 02:28:19,560 >> TO BE TESTED FOR HEAVY METALS 3926 02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:20,880 OR TOXINS, LET'S POSTPONE UNTIL 3927 02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:23,480 THE END, I HOPE ONE OF YOU WILL 3928 02:28:23,480 --> 02:28:24,480 BRING IT UP. 3929 02:28:24,480 --> 02:28:26,320 LET ME JUST SEE IF THERE'S 3930 02:28:26,320 --> 02:28:28,960 ANOTHER ONE HERE. 3931 02:28:28,960 --> 02:28:36,680 3932 02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:44,200 FROM MARY LEE, ANOTHER QUESTION. 3933 02:28:44,200 --> 02:28:46,240 YOU GUYS ARE FASTER AT DOING 3934 02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:52,600 THIS THAN I AM. 3935 02:28:52,600 --> 02:28:53,600 WHAT ABOUT SUPPLEMENTS MARKETED 3936 02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:55,520 WITHOUT CLAIMS THAT MAY HAVE NO 3937 02:28:55,520 --> 02:28:56,720 PROVEN HEALTH BENEFIT, SEEMS TO 3938 02:28:56,720 --> 02:29:02,200 BE A FOLLOW-ON TO ISSUE ABOUT 3939 02:29:02,200 --> 02:29:05,040 MARKETING, RESPONSIBILITY OF 3940 02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:05,680 MANUFACTURERS FOR MARKETING 3941 02:29:05,680 --> 02:29:07,560 BOTANICAL PRODUCTS FOR WHICH THE 3942 02:29:07,560 --> 02:29:09,520 EVIDENCE SEEMS TO BE SLENDER IN 3943 02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:13,080 TERMS OF HEALTH BENEFIT, WHAT 3944 02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:16,720 ABOUT SUPPLEMENTS THEN THAT MAKE 3945 02:29:16,720 --> 02:29:18,640 NO CLAIMS, AND MOST DON'T, 3946 02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:23,360 EXCEPT STRUCTURE/FUNCTION CLAIMS 3947 02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:24,160 OR CONTENT CLAIMS. 3948 02:29:24,160 --> 02:29:26,160 THEY HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO HAVE NO 3949 02:29:26,160 --> 02:29:27,360 BENEFIT AT ALL, THIS MAY NOT BE 3950 02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:28,840 A FAIR QUESTION TO ASK YOU BUT 3951 02:29:28,840 --> 02:29:31,320 I'LL TRY IT ANYWAY. 3952 02:29:31,320 --> 02:29:32,400 ANY COMMENTS FROM -- 3953 02:29:32,400 --> 02:29:33,920 >> MERLE HERE. 3954 02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:35,240 I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS 3955 02:29:35,240 --> 02:29:37,680 THAT MY PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS 3956 02:29:37,680 --> 02:29:40,440 REALLY LOVED TO DO, WHICH I 3957 02:29:40,440 --> 02:29:41,520 DIDN'T SUPER UNDERSTAND AS A 3958 02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:44,080 YOUNG PERSON, AND ONE OF THE 3959 02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:46,520 THINGS IS TRYING TO DO AS FAR AS 3960 02:29:46,520 --> 02:29:47,840 BOTANICALS MAKE SURE ALL THOSE 3961 02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:49,320 MEMBERS OF THE FOLKS' FAMILIES 3962 02:29:49,320 --> 02:29:52,960 WILL BE ABLE TO GET CONTINUED 3963 02:29:52,960 --> 02:29:54,240 ACCESS TO THE VARIETY OF HERBS 3964 02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:58,080 THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR PERSONAL 3965 02:29:58,080 --> 02:29:59,200 FAMILY TRADITIONS THEY ARE USED 3966 02:29:59,200 --> 02:29:59,360 TO. 3967 02:29:59,360 --> 02:30:01,240 THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY 3968 02:30:01,240 --> 02:30:03,680 WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE 3969 02:30:03,680 --> 02:30:05,840 EXPANSIONS TO OUR HERBS OF 3970 02:30:05,840 --> 02:30:07,600 COMMERCE TO ENGAGE WITH NARROWER 3971 02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:09,880 AREAS OF THE UNITED STATES. 3972 02:30:09,880 --> 02:30:10,560 WONDERFUL COLLECTION OF 3973 02:30:10,560 --> 02:30:11,600 DIFFERENT CULTURES. 3974 02:30:11,600 --> 02:30:13,240 WE CAN INCLUDE THE THINGS THAT 3975 02:30:13,240 --> 02:30:17,080 THEY WERE USING ALL ALONG IN OUR 3976 02:30:17,080 --> 02:30:17,680 FORMAL DIRECTORY. 3977 02:30:17,680 --> 02:30:20,000 >> ANY LAST WORDS FROM YOU, 3978 02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:23,880 BRIAN OR JAY ON THIS PARTICULAR 3979 02:30:23,880 --> 02:30:25,120 TOPIC? 3980 02:30:25,120 --> 02:30:26,160 >> SO, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOW 3981 02:30:26,160 --> 02:30:28,480 MANY PRODUCTS ARE OUT THERE THAT 3982 02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:32,000 DON'T MAKE ANY CLAIMS. 3983 02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:33,880 THERE'S EXPRESS CLAIMS AND 3984 02:30:33,880 --> 02:30:35,520 THERE'S IMPLIED CLAIMS. 3985 02:30:35,520 --> 02:30:37,440 YOU KNOW, AND THE EVIDENCE 3986 02:30:37,440 --> 02:30:38,280 STANDARD IS THE SAME. 3987 02:30:38,280 --> 02:30:40,040 SO IF YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY 3988 02:30:40,040 --> 02:30:43,320 CLAIM WHATSOEVER, YOU'D STILL 3989 02:30:43,320 --> 02:30:46,400 HAVE TO HAVE SOME VERIFICATION 3990 02:30:46,400 --> 02:30:47,400 FOR SUBSTANTIATION OF THE SAFETY 3991 02:30:47,400 --> 02:30:49,880 OF THE INGREDIENT BEING ON THE 3992 02:30:49,880 --> 02:30:50,120 MARKET. 3993 02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:52,120 BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CLAIM, 3994 02:30:52,120 --> 02:30:53,720 AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW FREQUENT 3995 02:30:53,720 --> 02:30:56,160 THOSE PRODUCTS SHOW UP ON THE 3996 02:30:56,160 --> 02:30:58,440 MARKET, BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE 3997 02:30:58,440 --> 02:31:02,080 TO HAVE SUBSTANTIATION OF SAFETY 3998 02:31:02,080 --> 02:31:04,960 WHETHER IT BE THROUGH NEW 3999 02:31:04,960 --> 02:31:09,680 DIETARY INGREDIENT NOTIFICATION 4000 02:31:09,680 --> 02:31:12,080 OR GRAS, OR MARKETEDDED PRIOR TO 4001 02:31:12,080 --> 02:31:13,640 DSHEA, THINGS LIKE THAT. 4002 02:31:13,640 --> 02:31:14,840 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 4003 02:31:14,840 --> 02:31:18,400 I'M GOING TO TURN TO OUR OTHER 4004 02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:21,280 PANEL, AND WE'RE GOING TO MEET 4005 02:31:21,280 --> 02:31:23,640 THREE DISTINGUISHED INDIVIDUALS 4006 02:31:23,640 --> 02:31:27,200 WHOM WE'VE DUBBED THE WATCHDOGS. 4007 02:31:27,200 --> 02:31:29,440 AND I'LL ASK THEM EACH TO TAKE 4008 02:31:29,440 --> 02:31:31,760 15 MINUTES AGAIN TO DESCRIBE THE 4009 02:31:31,760 --> 02:31:33,800 PURPOSE OF THEIR ORGANIZATION, 4010 02:31:33,800 --> 02:31:36,520 AS WELL AS ACTIVITIES THAT THEY 4011 02:31:36,520 --> 02:31:38,160 OR THEIR ORGANIZATIONS ENGAGE IN 4012 02:31:38,160 --> 02:31:39,200 SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO 4013 02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:39,600 SUPPLEMENTS. 4014 02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:41,040 A PANEL DISCUSSION WITH THESE 4015 02:31:41,040 --> 02:31:44,040 FOLKS WILL FOLLOW THEIR 4016 02:31:44,040 --> 02:31:45,080 PRESENTATIONS, WE'LL THEN HAVE A 4017 02:31:45,080 --> 02:31:45,800 SHORT BREAK FOLLOWED BY GENERAL 4018 02:31:45,800 --> 02:31:48,520 DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF THE 4019 02:31:48,520 --> 02:31:48,880 PANELISTS. 4020 02:31:48,880 --> 02:31:51,560 IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT 4021 02:31:51,560 --> 02:31:53,880 STILL REMAIN, THEY CAN BE 4022 02:31:53,880 --> 02:31:54,720 ANSWERED IN THAT GENERAL 4023 02:31:54,720 --> 02:31:59,680 DISCUSSION SESSION AT THE END. 4024 02:31:59,680 --> 02:32:05,560 LET ME INTRODUCE DR. TOD 4025 02:32:05,560 --> 02:32:06,320 COOPERMAN FROM CONSUMERLAB.COM. 4026 02:32:06,320 --> 02:32:08,720 WE HAVEN'T SEEN ONE ANOTHER FOR 4027 02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:11,320 A WHILE, TOD. 4028 02:32:11,320 --> 02:32:17,600 4029 02:32:17,600 --> 02:32:19,440 YOU'RE MUTED. 4030 02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:19,720 TRY AGAIN. 4031 02:32:19,720 --> 02:32:20,640 >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? 4032 02:32:20,640 --> 02:32:25,040 >> YES, I CAN HEAR YOU. 4033 02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:25,400 >> OKAY. 4034 02:32:25,400 --> 02:32:25,960 THANKS, PAUL. 4035 02:32:25,960 --> 02:32:27,720 IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU. 4036 02:32:27,720 --> 02:32:29,280 YOUR BEARD CONTINUES TO GET 4037 02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:31,640 LARGER AND YOUR MOUSTACHE TOO. 4038 02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:34,120 THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ODS FOR 4039 02:32:34,120 --> 02:32:36,440 INVITING ME, THIS IS ONE OF MY 4040 02:32:36,440 --> 02:32:38,720 FAVORITE PLACES TO TALK EACH 4041 02:32:38,720 --> 02:32:39,040 YEAR. 4042 02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:41,440 SO I'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT 4043 02:32:41,440 --> 02:32:42,720 BECAUSE I NEVER HAVE ENOUGH TIME 4044 02:32:42,720 --> 02:32:44,800 TO PRESENT WHAT I WANT TO 4045 02:32:44,800 --> 02:32:45,160 PRESENT HERE. 4046 02:32:45,160 --> 02:32:47,400 LET ME GO RIGHT TO MY 4047 02:32:47,400 --> 02:32:47,840 PRESENTATION. 4048 02:32:47,840 --> 02:32:51,400 CAN YOU SEE THAT ALL RIGHT? 4049 02:32:51,400 --> 02:32:52,280 >> NOT YET. 4050 02:32:52,280 --> 02:32:53,720 YOU MAY HAVE TO HIT ANOTHER 4051 02:32:53,720 --> 02:32:56,920 BUTTON. 4052 02:32:56,920 --> 02:32:58,480 >> CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT TO 4053 02:32:58,480 --> 02:32:59,680 SHARE, HIT ANOTHER SHARE BUTTON 4054 02:32:59,680 --> 02:33:02,120 BELOW THAT. 4055 02:33:02,120 --> 02:33:04,200 >> OH, I'M SORRY. 4056 02:33:04,200 --> 02:33:04,400 OKAY. 4057 02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:08,720 >> THERE WE GO. 4058 02:33:08,720 --> 02:33:09,720 >> OKAY. 4059 02:33:09,720 --> 02:33:15,320 >> I'M DR. TOD COOPERMAN WITH 4060 02:33:15,320 --> 02:33:16,000 CONSUMERLAB, FOUNDER OF 4061 02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:17,960 CONSUMERLAB, AND -- SORRY, I'M 4062 02:33:17,960 --> 02:33:22,160 TRYING TO -- THERE WE GO. 4063 02:33:22,160 --> 02:33:25,960 I FOUNDED CONSUMERLAB IN 1999, 4064 02:33:25,960 --> 02:33:27,640 23 YEARS NOW, WHERE I GRABBED A 4065 02:33:27,640 --> 02:33:30,040 RESEARCHER FROM THE FDA AND WE 4066 02:33:30,040 --> 02:33:31,640 BEGAN TESTING SUPPLEMENTS REALLY 4067 02:33:31,640 --> 02:33:33,680 TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT 4068 02:33:33,680 --> 02:33:35,800 HAVE COME IN, IN THE LAST PIECE, 4069 02:33:35,800 --> 02:33:38,920 PEOPLE ASKING WHERE CAN 4070 02:33:38,920 --> 02:33:39,800 CONSUMERS GET PRODUCTS TESTED, 4071 02:33:39,800 --> 02:33:42,120 ARE THERE GROUPS OUT THERE 4072 02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:45,240 LOOKING AT THE EVIDENCE AND 4073 02:33:45,240 --> 02:33:45,960 RECORDING ON THAT OBJECTIVELY, 4074 02:33:45,960 --> 02:33:49,360 THESE ARE THINGS WE DO AT 4075 02:33:49,360 --> 02:33:49,640 CONSUMERLAB. 4076 02:33:49,640 --> 02:33:51,240 WE DON'T ACCEPT PRODUCTS FROM 4077 02:33:51,240 --> 02:33:52,880 CONSUMERS OR COMPANIES BUT WE GO 4078 02:33:52,880 --> 02:33:54,800 OUT AND BUY THESE PRODUCTS. 4079 02:33:54,800 --> 02:33:57,240 OUR GOAL IS TO IDENTIFY THE BEST 4080 02:33:57,240 --> 02:33:59,840 QUALITY HEALTH AND NUTRITION 4081 02:33:59,840 --> 02:34:05,360 PRODUCTS THROUGH INDEPENDENT 4082 02:34:05,360 --> 02:34:05,600 TESTING. 4083 02:34:05,600 --> 02:34:08,000 WE'VE TESTED OVER 6800 PRODUCTS, 4084 02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:11,080 REPRESENTING NEARLY A THOUSAND 4085 02:34:11,080 --> 02:34:11,280 BRANDS. 4086 02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:12,720 WE HAVE OVER 95,000 INDIVIDUAL 4087 02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:15,000 MEMBERS, PEOPLE WHO SUBSCRIBE TO 4088 02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:15,400 OUR INFORMATION. 4089 02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:16,520 $54 A YEAR. 4090 02:34:16,520 --> 02:34:19,560 WE ALSO HAVE ALL KINDS OF 4091 02:34:19,560 --> 02:34:22,440 INSTITUTIONS THAT SUBSCRIBE TO 4092 02:34:22,440 --> 02:34:22,840 CONSUMERLAB. 4093 02:34:22,840 --> 02:34:25,200 WHY DO PEOPLE DO THAT? 4094 02:34:25,200 --> 02:34:28,160 CONSUMERS NEED TO UNDERSTAND 4095 02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:29,720 WHICH SUPPLEMENTS ARE BEST 4096 02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:32,360 QUALITY, AND GET OTHER OBJECTIVE 4097 02:34:32,360 --> 02:34:33,840 INFORMATION ABOUT USING 4098 02:34:33,840 --> 02:34:34,960 SUPPLEMENTS, HEALTH CARE 4099 02:34:34,960 --> 02:34:35,560 PROFESSIONALS USE OUR 4100 02:34:35,560 --> 02:34:37,520 INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY ARE 4101 02:34:37,520 --> 02:34:38,440 TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR PATIENTS 4102 02:34:38,440 --> 02:34:40,520 AND RECOMMEND PRODUCTS THAT THEY 4103 02:34:40,520 --> 02:34:43,080 THINK ARE BEST. 4104 02:34:43,080 --> 02:34:44,680 NUTRITIONISTS, DOCTORS, NURSES, 4105 02:34:44,680 --> 02:34:45,320 ET CETERA. 4106 02:34:45,320 --> 02:34:47,680 AND THOSE IN THE INDUSTRY ALSO 4107 02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:49,640 USE OUR INFORMATION TO KEEP 4108 02:34:49,640 --> 02:34:51,520 ABREAST OF QUALITY ISSUES THAT 4109 02:34:51,520 --> 02:34:52,280 ARE GOING ON. 4110 02:34:52,280 --> 02:34:54,520 PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT AS WELL. 4111 02:34:54,520 --> 02:34:57,240 AS I SAID I'M THE FOUNDER. 4112 02:34:57,240 --> 02:34:59,400 I'VE BEEN IN THE CONSUMER HEALTH 4113 02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:03,480 AREA FOR THE LAST 26 YEARS, AND 4114 02:35:03,480 --> 02:35:07,840 M.D. BY SCHOOLING, WENT INTO THE 4115 02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:08,320 PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY, 4116 02:35:08,320 --> 02:35:08,840 GRAVITATED TOWARD CONSUMER 4117 02:35:08,840 --> 02:35:09,160 INFORMATION. 4118 02:35:09,160 --> 02:35:11,960 OUR HEAD OF RESEARCH NOW IS DR. 4119 02:35:11,960 --> 02:35:13,560 MARK ANDERSON. 4120 02:35:13,560 --> 02:35:15,440 HE REPLACED OUR ORIGINAL FOUNDER 4121 02:35:15,440 --> 02:35:17,480 WHO RETIRED AFTER 12 YEARS, WHO 4122 02:35:17,480 --> 02:35:18,920 IS FROM THE FDA, MARK IS FROM 4123 02:35:18,920 --> 02:35:21,320 THE INDUSTRY WHICH IS ACTUALLY A 4124 02:35:21,320 --> 02:35:22,720 REALLY NICE PERSPECTIVE. 4125 02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:25,960 HE'S BEEN WITH US I THINK NINE 4126 02:35:25,960 --> 02:35:36,440 YEARS NOW AND HE -- OR MORE. 4127 02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:41,880 A PHARMACOLOGIST, TOXICOLOGIST. 4128 02:35:41,880 --> 02:35:42,960 WE KNOW THIS AREA. 4129 02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:44,960 AND WE'RE IN THE NEWS ALL THE 4130 02:35:44,960 --> 02:35:45,440 TIME. 4131 02:35:45,440 --> 02:35:46,720 THESE QUESTIONS ALWAYS COME UP 4132 02:35:46,720 --> 02:35:50,480 HOW DO YOU CHOOSE SUPPLEMENTS 4133 02:35:50,480 --> 02:35:51,680 WISELY, CAN ELDERBERRY TREAT THE 4134 02:35:51,680 --> 02:35:52,840 FLU, ET CETERA. 4135 02:35:52,840 --> 02:35:54,520 OUR INFORMATION IS FREQUENTLY 4136 02:35:54,520 --> 02:35:57,760 CITED IN THE NEWS, IN THE 4137 02:35:57,760 --> 02:36:01,360 ARTICLES, WHY CAN'T YOU JUST 4138 02:36:01,360 --> 02:36:04,200 RELY ON THE FDA? 4139 02:36:04,200 --> 02:36:05,520 THIS PRACTICUM ADDRESSED THIS. 4140 02:36:05,520 --> 02:36:09,760 WE CAN'T JUST RELY ON THE FDA. 4141 02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:12,440 IT DOESN'T APPROVE SUPPLEMENTS, 4142 02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:15,160 IT REGISTERS COMPANIES WHO MAKE 4143 02:36:15,160 --> 02:36:15,920 SUPPLEMENTS. 4144 02:36:15,920 --> 02:36:17,280 GOOD MANUFACTURE PROGRESSES IS 4145 02:36:17,280 --> 02:36:21,960 REQUIRED, CAN HELP BUT THEY 4146 02:36:21,960 --> 02:36:29,200 DON'T CONTAIN CONTAMINATION 4147 02:36:29,200 --> 02:36:35,560 LIMITS, AND 52% OF INSPECTIONS 4148 02:36:35,560 --> 02:36:36,960 RESULTED IN CITATIONS, BASICALLY 4149 02:36:36,960 --> 02:36:39,240 ESSENTIALLY FOR PRODUCTS FOR 4150 02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:41,880 COMPANIES NOT ESTABLISHING 4151 02:36:41,880 --> 02:36:46,920 PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS FOR 4152 02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:47,840 IDENTITY PURITY STRENGTH. 4153 02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:51,400 A NEED FOR A GROUP, TO BUY, TEST 4154 02:36:51,400 --> 02:36:51,760 PRODUCTS. 4155 02:36:51,760 --> 02:36:53,120 THIS IS WHAT WE DO. 4156 02:36:53,120 --> 02:36:54,280 ONE, WE TEST PRODUCTS. 4157 02:36:54,280 --> 02:36:56,280 WE PUT OUT NEW PRODUCT REVIEWS 4158 02:36:56,280 --> 02:36:58,560 EVERY TWO TO THREE WEEKS. 4159 02:36:58,560 --> 02:36:59,400 I'LL MENTION A COUPLE. 4160 02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:01,760 AS MANY AS I CAN BEFORE I GET 4161 02:37:01,760 --> 02:37:04,000 YANKED OFF THE STAGE HERE. 4162 02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:09,280 WE ALSO HAVE ONE OF THE OLDEST 4163 02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:10,440 QUALITY CERTIFICATION PROGRAMS 4164 02:37:10,440 --> 02:37:14,040 WITH OUR SEAL. 4165 02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:15,760 WE'RE ACTUALLY THE ONLY ONE, 4166 02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:17,200 OTHERS ARE DOING USF, NSF, WE 4167 02:37:17,200 --> 02:37:19,560 HAVE THE ONLY ONE THAT PUBLISHES 4168 02:37:19,560 --> 02:37:22,200 OUR TESTING METHODS AND 4169 02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:23,200 STANDARDS, SO EVERYONE KNOWS 4170 02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:24,640 WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE 4171 02:37:24,640 --> 02:37:26,840 DOING IT, HOW WE'RE EVALUATING 4172 02:37:26,840 --> 02:37:27,080 PRODUCTS. 4173 02:37:27,080 --> 02:37:29,760 WE DO SOME SPECIAL TESTING FOR 4174 02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:31,080 ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS, AND WE 4175 02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:32,720 TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND WE 4176 02:37:32,720 --> 02:37:35,040 CREATE THESE PRODUCT REVIEWS WE 4177 02:37:35,040 --> 02:37:38,320 PUBLISH ON OUR SITE, WE COVER 4178 02:37:38,320 --> 02:37:39,640 ALL MAJOR SUPPLEMENTS AND 4179 02:37:39,640 --> 02:37:43,760 CONTINUE TO GO AND TEST MORE. 4180 02:37:43,760 --> 02:37:47,280 WE PUBLISHED CLINICAL UPDATES, 4181 02:37:47,280 --> 02:37:49,040 CONSTANTLY PICKING OUT IMPORTANT 4182 02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:51,120 ARTICLES, WRITING ABOUT THEM, 4183 02:37:51,120 --> 02:37:51,680 CRITICALLY. 4184 02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:53,000 WE ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM 4185 02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:55,440 CONSUMERS, WE GET GREAT 4186 02:37:55,440 --> 02:37:56,520 QUESTIONS FROM OUR MEMBERS. 4187 02:37:56,520 --> 02:37:58,520 AND LEARN A LOT FROM THEM AS 4188 02:37:58,520 --> 02:37:58,720 WELL. 4189 02:37:58,720 --> 02:38:01,560 AND PUBLISH THAT ON OUR SITE. 4190 02:38:01,560 --> 02:38:02,880 WE PUBLISH RECALLS AND WARNINGS 4191 02:38:02,880 --> 02:38:04,480 THAT COME OUT ABOUT SUPPLEMENTS. 4192 02:38:04,480 --> 02:38:06,640 AND WE PUT OUT A NEWSLETTER 4193 02:38:06,640 --> 02:38:07,480 THREE TIMES A WEEK LETTING 4194 02:38:07,480 --> 02:38:08,920 PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE LATEST 4195 02:38:08,920 --> 02:38:10,960 INFORMATION IS ON THE SITE. 4196 02:38:10,960 --> 02:38:13,680 THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF 4197 02:38:13,680 --> 02:38:14,960 CATEGORIES THAT WE'VE TESTED. 4198 02:38:14,960 --> 02:38:18,400 AND WHEN I SAY TESTED, WE'VE 4199 02:38:18,400 --> 02:38:19,560 BOUGHT A BUNCH OF PRODUCTS ON 4200 02:38:19,560 --> 02:38:20,800 THE MARKET AS A CONSUMER WOULD 4201 02:38:20,800 --> 02:38:22,720 AND PUT THEM THROUGH RIGOROUS 4202 02:38:22,720 --> 02:38:24,160 TESTING, WHAT HAVE WE FOUND 4203 02:38:24,160 --> 02:38:25,360 DOING THAT? 4204 02:38:25,360 --> 02:38:26,920 WELL, ONE OUT OF FIVE 4205 02:38:26,920 --> 02:38:28,720 SUPPLEMENTS WE FOUND TO BE OF 4206 02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:31,440 POOR QUALITY, AND WE'RE NOT OUT 4207 02:38:31,440 --> 02:38:33,200 THERE TYING TO FIND PROBLEMS, 4208 02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:34,560 WE'RE TRYING TO FIND GOOD 4209 02:38:34,560 --> 02:38:35,040 PRODUCTS. 4210 02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:36,400 I HAVE A FEELING THE RESULTS 4211 02:38:36,400 --> 02:38:39,640 WOULD BE WORSE IF YOU FOCUSED ON 4212 02:38:39,640 --> 02:38:41,600 WHAT WAS ON AMAZON RIGHT NOW BUT 4213 02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:45,720 IN TERMS OF WHAT WE FIND, 31% OF 4214 02:38:45,720 --> 02:38:47,240 HERBAL PRODUCTS FAIL OUR TESTS, 4215 02:38:47,240 --> 02:38:50,520 17 ADVISORY OF VITAMINS AND 4216 02:38:50,520 --> 02:38:53,440 MINERALS, HERBALS ARE MORE 4217 02:38:53,440 --> 02:38:57,480 COMPLICATED PRODUCTS. 4218 02:38:57,480 --> 02:38:58,320 SUPPLEMENTS, 14%, CoQ10s, 4219 02:38:58,320 --> 02:39:01,320 SAMMY, ET CETERA. 4220 02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:04,520 NUTRITIONAL PRODUCTS, 25%. 4221 02:39:04,520 --> 02:39:05,920 DARK CHOCOLATES, PROTEIN 4222 02:39:05,920 --> 02:39:08,520 POWDERS, OLIVE OILS, ET CETERA. 4223 02:39:08,520 --> 02:39:10,840 OVERALL 1 OUT OF 5 FAIL OUR 4224 02:39:10,840 --> 02:39:11,440 TESTS. 4225 02:39:11,440 --> 02:39:13,680 AND MOST COMMON PROBLEMS ARE WE 4226 02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:15,720 FIND TOO LITTLE OR NO 4227 02:39:15,720 --> 02:39:17,000 INGREDIENT, AND REALLY GOOD 4228 02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:19,360 EXAMPLE IS SOMETHING WE PUT OUT 4229 02:39:19,360 --> 02:39:22,280 A FEW DAYS AGO ON RED YEAST 4230 02:39:22,280 --> 02:39:27,560 RICE, 4 OUT OF 10 PRODUCTS HAD 4231 02:39:27,560 --> 02:39:29,680 NO LOVASTATIN, THE ACTIVE 4232 02:39:29,680 --> 02:39:31,000 COMPOUND THAT LOWERS 4233 02:39:31,000 --> 02:39:32,160 CHOLESTEROL, SHOCKING, SMALL 4234 02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:34,040 AMOUNTS IN MANY OTHERS, ONLY 1 4235 02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:37,440 OUT OF 10 WAS WE THOUGHT A GOOD 4236 02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:37,760 PRODUCT. 4237 02:39:37,760 --> 02:39:41,560 SOME HAVE TOO MUCH INGREDIENT, 4238 02:39:41,560 --> 02:39:45,280 COMPANIES CAN PUT IN OVERAGE BUT 4239 02:39:45,280 --> 02:39:48,840 200%, 300% CAN BE DANGEROUS. 4240 02:39:48,840 --> 02:39:50,320 INADEQUATE LABELING TO DESCRIBE 4241 02:39:50,320 --> 02:39:50,920 INGREDIENTS. 4242 02:39:50,920 --> 02:39:53,480 JUST OTHER REASONS FOR POOR 4243 02:39:53,480 --> 02:39:55,640 QUALITY INGREDIENTS, THEY DON'T 4244 02:39:55,640 --> 02:40:00,400 HAVE KEY COMPOUNDS EXPECTED IN 4245 02:40:00,400 --> 02:40:03,120 THERE, SPOILAGE OF OILS, 4246 02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:04,080 CONTAMINATION OF HEAVY METALS, 4247 02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:05,520 WE'RE TESTING ALL HERBAL 4248 02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:07,120 PRODUCTS AND MINERAL PRODUCTS 4249 02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:09,640 FOR HEAVY METALS AS WELL AS 4250 02:40:09,640 --> 02:40:11,280 OTHER TYPES OF PRODUCTS. 4251 02:40:11,280 --> 02:40:16,760 SO THAT WOULD BE LEAD, CADMIUM, 4252 02:40:16,760 --> 02:40:17,880 MERCURY, ARSENIC, INADEQUATE 4253 02:40:17,880 --> 02:40:19,240 DISINTEGRATION OF PILLS, SO 4254 02:40:19,240 --> 02:40:23,120 EVERY TABLET OR CAPLET IS TESTED 4255 02:40:23,120 --> 02:40:26,720 TO BREAK APART PROPERLY, RELEASE 4256 02:40:26,720 --> 02:40:28,680 INGREDIENTS, UNAPPROVED LABEL 4257 02:40:28,680 --> 02:40:28,920 CLAIMS. 4258 02:40:28,920 --> 02:40:31,680 SO, THE WAY WE DO THIS IS WE 4259 02:40:31,680 --> 02:40:34,400 PICK PRODUCTS THAT ARE POPULAR 4260 02:40:34,400 --> 02:40:35,280 AMONG OUR READERS PRIMARILY. 4261 02:40:35,280 --> 02:40:36,840 WE DO A BIG SURVEY EVERY YEAR TO 4262 02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:39,680 FIND OUT WHAT THEY USE AND DO 4263 02:40:39,680 --> 02:40:43,480 SMALLER SURVEYS FOR MORE DETAILS 4264 02:40:43,480 --> 02:40:44,640 PRODUCT SUGGESTIONS. 4265 02:40:44,640 --> 02:40:49,440 MULTIPLE SAMPLES PURCHASED AT 4266 02:40:49,440 --> 02:40:51,880 RETAIL FROM THE SAME LOT SO WE 4267 02:40:51,880 --> 02:40:54,040 HAVE ALWAYS A RESERVE SAMPLE WE 4268 02:40:54,040 --> 02:41:03,640 CAN RETEST OR SEND OUT TO A 4269 02:41:03,640 --> 02:41:06,480 LABORATORY FOR RETESTING. 4270 02:41:06,480 --> 02:41:07,560 IT'S ALWAYS CONFIRMED. 4271 02:41:07,560 --> 02:41:09,960 ALL THE OTHER TESTS ARE DONE IN 4272 02:41:09,960 --> 02:41:12,560 EXPERT LABORATORIES, OUR HEAD OF 4273 02:41:12,560 --> 02:41:13,760 RESEARCH, THAT'S HIS MAIN JOB 4274 02:41:13,760 --> 02:41:14,640 MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING THE 4275 02:41:14,640 --> 02:41:15,840 RIGHT TEST TEST RIGHT 4276 02:41:15,840 --> 02:41:19,480 LABORATORIES AND INTERPRETING 4277 02:41:19,480 --> 02:41:20,800 THE DATA PROPERLY. 4278 02:41:20,800 --> 02:41:21,880 INFORMATION IS PUBLISHED ONLINE 4279 02:41:21,880 --> 02:41:22,720 FOR MEMBERS. 4280 02:41:22,720 --> 02:41:26,560 AND ALL THOSE WHO ATTENDING ARE 4281 02:41:26,560 --> 02:41:31,720 WELCOME TO GET A FREE 4282 02:41:31,720 --> 02:41:32,720 THREE-MONTH MEMBERSHIP TO 4283 02:41:32,720 --> 02:41:33,160 CONSUMERLAB. 4284 02:41:33,160 --> 02:41:35,880 I'LL HAVE MY E-MAIL AT THE END. 4285 02:41:35,880 --> 02:41:37,120 PRODUCTS APPROVED IN VOLUNTARY 4286 02:41:37,120 --> 02:41:38,320 TESTING ARE APPROVED, THOSE THAT 4287 02:41:38,320 --> 02:41:41,040 GET OUR SEAL ARE ON OUR SITE. 4288 02:41:41,040 --> 02:41:43,720 AND AS I MENTIONED WE PUBLISH 4289 02:41:43,720 --> 02:41:47,080 HOW WE DO THESE TESTS, WHAT 4290 02:41:47,080 --> 02:41:51,000 PARAMETERS ARE FOR FAILING OR 4291 02:41:51,000 --> 02:41:51,440 PASSING. 4292 02:41:51,440 --> 02:41:53,200 I'LL JUMP OVER TO SHOW AN 4293 02:41:53,200 --> 02:41:57,680 EXAMPLE OF ONE OF OUR REVIEWS. 4294 02:41:57,680 --> 02:41:58,680 I'VE CHOSEN MAGNESIUM HERE. 4295 02:41:58,680 --> 02:42:01,320 WE PUT THIS OUT RECENTLY AS 4296 02:42:01,320 --> 02:42:01,520 WELL. 4297 02:42:01,520 --> 02:42:04,440 AND THESE INCLUDE NOT ONLY 4298 02:42:04,440 --> 02:42:11,200 MAGNESIUM SUPPLEMENT BUT 4299 02:42:11,200 --> 02:42:12,960 COMBINATION, BONE PRODUCTS HAVE 4300 02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:13,200 IT. 4301 02:42:13,200 --> 02:42:14,920 WE START OFF WITH WHAT IT IS, WE 4302 02:42:14,920 --> 02:42:18,440 GET INTO WHAT IT DOES. 4303 02:42:18,440 --> 02:42:19,520 THAT'S EXTENSIVE INFORMATION 4304 02:42:19,520 --> 02:42:21,720 ABOUT LOOKING AT STUDIES OUT 4305 02:42:21,720 --> 02:42:21,960 THERE. 4306 02:42:21,960 --> 02:42:24,320 I CAN'T EVEN -- I WON'T SPEND 4307 02:42:24,320 --> 02:42:27,080 MUCH TIME LOOKING AT -- THERE'S 4308 02:42:27,080 --> 02:42:37,240 DEMENTIA AND MAGNESIUM. 4309 02:42:37,240 --> 02:42:38,120 EXTENSIVE CLINICAL INFORMATION, 4310 02:42:38,120 --> 02:42:39,800 WHAT THIS PRODUCT MAY OR MAY NOT 4311 02:42:39,800 --> 02:42:40,080 DO. 4312 02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:45,640 WE OF -- FOUR PRODUCTS FAILED 4313 02:42:45,640 --> 02:42:48,800 OUR TEST, WASN'T BECAUSE OF 4314 02:42:48,800 --> 02:42:50,120 MAGNESIUM, MOST MINERALS ARE IN 4315 02:42:50,120 --> 02:42:52,360 THERE AT RIGHT AMOUNTS BUT TURNS 4316 02:42:52,360 --> 02:42:56,320 OUT MAGNESIUM DOESN'T PLAY WELL 4317 02:42:56,320 --> 02:43:00,200 WITH VITAMIN K, SO ONE HAD 4% OF 4318 02:43:00,200 --> 02:43:00,840 VITAMIN K. 4319 02:43:00,840 --> 02:43:07,880 IF YOU HAVE IT WITH MAGNESIUMS 4320 02:43:07,880 --> 02:43:09,840 AND CALCIUM, YOU CAN LOSE THAT, 4321 02:43:09,840 --> 02:43:16,200 PUTTING ALL THE RIGHT 4322 02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:17,440 INGREDIENTS, THEY CAN HAVE 4323 02:43:17,440 --> 02:43:20,400 PRODUCTS THAT FAIL. 4324 02:43:20,400 --> 02:43:24,960 WE HAD ANOTHER PRODUCT WITH -- 4325 02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:27,240 THIS ONE WAS LOW IN MAGNESIUM, 4326 02:43:27,240 --> 02:43:29,960 ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD 240% OF ITS 4327 02:43:29,960 --> 02:43:35,160 VITAMIN D, SO ANOTHER PROBLEM. 4328 02:43:35,160 --> 02:43:39,120 WE COMPARED AMOUNTS THAT WE 4329 02:43:39,120 --> 02:43:41,320 FOUND IN PRODUCTS, WE LOOKED AT 4330 02:43:41,320 --> 02:43:43,960 COST, YOU CAN SAVE MONEY IF YOU 4331 02:43:43,960 --> 02:43:52,240 IF COST COMPARISON, YOU CAN GET 4332 02:43:52,240 --> 02:43:55,720 200 MILLIGRAMS FOR 4 CENTS OR 4333 02:43:55,720 --> 02:43:55,920 $4.35. 4334 02:43:55,920 --> 02:43:58,760 WE GO THROUGH ALL THAT, HAVE TOP 4335 02:43:58,760 --> 02:44:01,040 PICKS FOR CONSUMERS, SO THEY CAN 4336 02:44:01,040 --> 02:44:02,400 JUST GO RIGHT TO WHICH PRODUCT 4337 02:44:02,400 --> 02:44:06,120 MIGHT BE BEST FOR THEM. 4338 02:44:06,120 --> 02:44:08,480 DIFFERENT TIPS ABOUT HOW TO USE, 4339 02:44:08,480 --> 02:44:13,120 HOW MUCH YOU NEED, AND THEN 4340 02:44:13,120 --> 02:44:23,640 CONCERNS AND CAUTIONS, WHAT SIDE 4341 02:44:25,720 --> 02:44:26,600 EFFECTS, DRUG INTERACTIONS, LET 4342 02:44:26,600 --> 02:44:37,080 ME JUMP BACK AND STOP SHARING. 4343 02:44:46,120 --> 02:44:47,360 I BELIEVE THIS IS IT. 4344 02:44:47,360 --> 02:44:49,960 CAN YOU STILL HEAR AND SEE ME? 4345 02:44:49,960 --> 02:44:53,200 I'LL TAKE THAT AS A YES. 4346 02:44:53,200 --> 02:44:53,880 >> YES. 4347 02:44:53,880 --> 02:44:54,960 >> ALL RIGHT. 4348 02:44:54,960 --> 02:44:56,560 HERE ARE RECENT FINDINGS. 4349 02:44:56,560 --> 02:44:59,680 I MENTIONED RED YEAST RICE. 4350 02:44:59,680 --> 02:45:07,640 IN ADDITION TO FINDING NO 4351 02:45:07,640 --> 02:45:13,840 LOVASTATIN, WE FOUND CITRININ, A 4352 02:45:13,840 --> 02:45:15,520 POTENTIAL KIDNEY TOXIN. 4353 02:45:15,520 --> 02:45:17,480 WE HAVE EXTENSIVE INFORMATION, 4354 02:45:17,480 --> 02:45:20,320 CAN BE EFFECTIVE, BUT YOU DON'T 4355 02:45:20,320 --> 02:45:21,920 WANT TO USE SOMETHING WITH NO 4356 02:45:21,920 --> 02:45:24,000 LOVASTATIN IN THAT. 4357 02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:28,120 I'LL SKILL VITAMIN K. 4358 02:45:28,120 --> 02:45:29,360 ALOE, ONE PRODUCT FOUND NO KEY 4359 02:45:29,360 --> 02:45:33,200 COMPOUND YOU EXPECT TO FIND IN 4360 02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:36,840 ALOE VERA. 4361 02:45:36,840 --> 02:45:45,040 BIG VARIATIONS IN AMOUNT OF 4362 02:45:45,040 --> 02:45:47,120 ACEMANNAN, PSYLLIUM SUPPLEMENTS, 4363 02:45:47,120 --> 02:45:48,560 EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF LEAD IN 4364 02:45:48,560 --> 02:45:50,640 FIVE OUT OF EIGHT. 4365 02:45:50,640 --> 02:45:56,920 CRANBERRY PRODUCTS, WE LOOKED 4366 02:45:56,920 --> 02:45:59,120 FOR TYPE A PACs, BIG 4367 02:45:59,120 --> 02:46:03,800 VARIATION, YOU CAN SAVE CAL LIST 4368 02:46:03,800 --> 02:46:08,800 GETTING - SAVE CALORIES WITH A 4369 02:46:08,800 --> 02:46:11,000 JUICE RATHER THAN COCKTAIL. 4370 02:46:11,000 --> 02:46:15,560 HUGE RANGE, YOU WOULD NOT KNOW 4371 02:46:15,560 --> 02:46:17,400 FROM LABEL. 4372 02:46:17,400 --> 02:46:21,760 GREEN TEA, LOOKING FOR EGCG 4373 02:46:21,760 --> 02:46:23,080 PRIMARILY, AND FOUND THAT 4374 02:46:23,080 --> 02:46:25,920 ACTUALLY WE LOOKED AT TEA BAGS 4375 02:46:25,920 --> 02:46:29,160 AND FOUND SOME HAD VERY LITTLE 4376 02:46:29,160 --> 02:46:33,640 EGCG DUE TO THE BAGS PROBABLY 4377 02:46:33,640 --> 02:46:36,240 THEMSELVES RETAINING THE ACTIVE 4378 02:46:36,240 --> 02:46:37,720 COMPOUNDS. 4379 02:46:37,720 --> 02:46:43,520 AGAIN, I'M GOING QUICKLY. 4380 02:46:43,520 --> 02:46:46,600 WE TESTED SEAWEED SNACKS, HIGH 4381 02:46:46,600 --> 02:46:57,040 LEVELS OF IODINE, SOME HAD 4382 02:46:57,640 --> 02:47:05,440 18,000 MICROGRAMS. 4383 02:47:05,440 --> 02:47:07,840 LEAD, POTASSIUM SUPPLEMENTS, ONE 4384 02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:09,160 PROVIDING 27 0 MILLIGRAMS 4385 02:47:09,160 --> 02:47:10,560 INSTEAD OF 105, PILLS OF ANOTHER 4386 02:47:10,560 --> 02:47:12,320 WOULDN'T BREAK APART SO YOU 4387 02:47:12,320 --> 02:47:14,720 WON'T GET THE POTASSIUM YOU 4388 02:47:14,720 --> 02:47:15,800 EXPECT. 4389 02:47:15,800 --> 02:47:19,040 SOME MADE WITH KELP WERE 4390 02:47:19,040 --> 02:47:25,520 CONTAMINATED WITH ARSENIC. 4391 02:47:25,520 --> 02:47:29,240 GOLDENSEAL, BURBERINE, WE FOUND 4392 02:47:29,240 --> 02:47:33,280 FAKE GOLDENSEAL. 4393 02:47:33,280 --> 02:47:38,400 ONE ARE NO BURBERINE EVEN WITH A 4394 02:47:38,400 --> 02:47:40,520 GMP CERTIFIED LOGO. 4395 02:47:40,520 --> 02:47:46,320 GINGKO, 4 OUT OF 10 SUPPLEMENTS 4396 02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:46,680 APPROVED. 4397 02:47:46,680 --> 02:47:48,080 RED FLAGS, DON'T -- BE AWARE OF 4398 02:47:48,080 --> 02:47:50,920 LABELS THAT DON'T TELL YOU HOW 4399 02:47:50,920 --> 02:47:53,400 MUCH, IT'S A PROPRIETARY BLEND, 4400 02:47:53,400 --> 02:47:53,760 ET CETERA. 4401 02:47:53,760 --> 02:48:01,080 MEANINGLESS CLAIMS LIKE FDA 4402 02:48:01,080 --> 02:48:02,080 APPROVED, PHARMACEUTICAL GRADE, 4403 02:48:02,080 --> 02:48:04,480 UNCERTAIN CERTIFICATION SEALS, 4404 02:48:04,480 --> 02:48:06,080 LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE GMP 4405 02:48:06,080 --> 02:48:07,320 APPROVED BY BY WHOM? 4406 02:48:07,320 --> 02:48:11,120 LOOK FOR SEALS LIKE CONSUMERLAB, 4407 02:48:11,120 --> 02:48:12,120 USP, NSF. 4408 02:48:12,120 --> 02:48:15,000 PRICE IS NOT AN INDICATOR OF 4409 02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:15,640 QUALITY. 4410 02:48:15,640 --> 02:48:17,440 PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW UPPER 4411 02:48:17,440 --> 02:48:18,280 TOLERABLE INTAKE LEVELS OF 4412 02:48:18,280 --> 02:48:19,040 SUPPLEMENTS BECAUSE IT'S NOT 4413 02:48:19,040 --> 02:48:21,240 GOING TO BE ON THE BOTTLE. 4414 02:48:21,240 --> 02:48:23,480 YOU'LL SEE DAILY VALUE 4415 02:48:23,480 --> 02:48:24,560 PERCENTAGES BUT NOT THAT. 4416 02:48:24,560 --> 02:48:25,200 THAT'S IT. 4417 02:48:25,200 --> 02:48:27,760 HOPEFULLY I MADE IT UNDER THE 4418 02:48:27,760 --> 02:48:28,120 INQUIRE. 4419 02:48:28,120 --> 02:48:30,760 NO ONE YANKED ME OFF SO THAT'S 4420 02:48:30,760 --> 02:48:31,280 GREAT. 4421 02:48:31,280 --> 02:48:33,000 AGAIN, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN 4422 02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:34,120 GETTING FREE MEMBERSHIP FOR 4423 02:48:34,120 --> 02:48:36,160 THREE MONTHS AS A TRIAL, YOU'RE 4424 02:48:36,160 --> 02:48:37,920 NOT ALREADY A MEMBER, E-MAIL ME 4425 02:48:37,920 --> 02:48:40,520 AND WE'LL SET THAT UP FOR YOU 4426 02:48:40,520 --> 02:48:50,960 NEXT WEEK. 4427 02:48:50,960 --> 02:48:52,560 SO THANK YOU. 4428 02:48:52,560 --> 02:48:53,800 >> YOU WERE CLOSE TO TIME. 4429 02:48:53,800 --> 02:48:56,440 IT'S A FUN THING TO DO. 4430 02:48:56,440 --> 02:48:59,240 ALL INTRODUCE MR. JENSEN JOSE 4431 02:48:59,240 --> 02:49:02,120 FOR CENTER FOR SCIENCE IN THE 4432 02:49:02,120 --> 02:49:02,960 PUBLIC INTEREST. 4433 02:49:02,960 --> 02:49:05,280 TAKE IT AWAY. 4434 02:49:05,280 --> 02:49:07,600 >> THANKS FOR THAT. 4435 02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:10,240 MY SHARE CONTENT BUTTON IS NOT 4436 02:49:10,240 --> 02:49:12,040 THERE. 4437 02:49:12,040 --> 02:49:14,160 >> JAMES, CAN YOU HELP? 4438 02:49:14,160 --> 02:49:17,000 >> IT SHOULD BE APPEARING NOW. 4439 02:49:17,000 --> 02:49:24,160 >> THERE IT IS. 4440 02:49:24,160 --> 02:49:26,000 CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY SCREEN? 4441 02:49:26,000 --> 02:49:26,520 >> YEP. 4442 02:49:26,520 --> 02:49:27,800 LOOKS GREAT. 4443 02:49:27,800 --> 02:49:28,520 >> ALL RIGHT. 4444 02:49:28,520 --> 02:49:29,560 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 4445 02:49:29,560 --> 02:49:37,360 GOOD AFTERNOON. 4446 02:49:37,360 --> 02:49:39,880 I'M JENSEN JOSE, I'VE BEEN 4447 02:49:39,880 --> 02:49:43,520 DEALING WITH A THREE-MONTH-OLD 4448 02:49:43,520 --> 02:49:47,240 AND 2-YEAR-OLD WITH DOUBLE 4449 02:49:47,240 --> 02:49:50,600 INFECTION, FLU, NEW DAY CARE AND 4450 02:49:50,600 --> 02:49:53,640 COVID, SO VERY LITTLE SLEEP, 4451 02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:56,040 APOLOGIZE IF IT SHOWS IN THE 4452 02:49:56,040 --> 02:49:57,480 PRESENTATION. 4453 02:49:57,480 --> 02:49:59,280 I'LL START THE PRESENTATION. 4454 02:49:59,280 --> 02:50:03,880 I WORK ON FOOD ADDITIVES AND 4455 02:50:03,880 --> 02:50:04,480 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT ISSUES. 4456 02:50:04,480 --> 02:50:06,520 IT'S ONE OF THE AMERICA'S OLDEST 4457 02:50:06,520 --> 02:50:08,240 FOOD AND NUTRITION WATCH DOG 4458 02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:10,400 ORGANIZATIONS, WE MONITOR MARKET 4459 02:50:10,400 --> 02:50:11,840 TO ENSURE UNSAFE FOODS INCLUDING 4460 02:50:11,840 --> 02:50:13,320 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS ARE KEPT OFF 4461 02:50:13,320 --> 02:50:13,880 THE MARKET. 4462 02:50:13,880 --> 02:50:16,040 WE PUSH FOR POLICIES THAT ALLOW 4463 02:50:16,040 --> 02:50:19,720 CONSUMERS TO MAKE HEALTHY 4464 02:50:19,720 --> 02:50:19,920 CHOICES. 4465 02:50:19,920 --> 02:50:22,280 ALSO PUBLISHES THE NUTRITION 4466 02:50:22,280 --> 02:50:23,560 ACTION HEALTH LETTER PROVIDING 4467 02:50:23,560 --> 02:50:25,160 ADVICE ON NUTRITION AND HEALTH. 4468 02:50:25,160 --> 02:50:26,880 IN OUR WORK WE HAVE COME ACROSS 4469 02:50:26,880 --> 02:50:29,800 A NUMBER OF CONCERNING HEALTH 4470 02:50:29,800 --> 02:50:33,440 AND SAFETY ISSUES WITHIN THE 4471 02:50:33,440 --> 02:50:33,800 MARKETPLACE. 4472 02:50:33,800 --> 02:50:35,160 MOST DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS ARE BEE 4473 02:50:35,160 --> 02:50:45,120 NINE BUT WE'VE -- ARE BENIGN 4474 02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:46,480 BACKUP DISEASE THERE ARE 4475 02:50:46,480 --> 02:50:47,400 UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS. 4476 02:50:47,400 --> 02:50:48,680 THIS PRESENTATION WILL COVER 4477 02:50:48,680 --> 02:50:50,000 THESE THREATS TO CONSUMER SAFETY 4478 02:50:50,000 --> 02:50:51,400 IN MORE DETAIL. 4479 02:50:51,400 --> 02:50:53,720 I'LL GO OVER EXAMPLES OF CSPI 4480 02:50:53,720 --> 02:50:55,640 WORK ON ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES 4481 02:50:55,640 --> 02:50:59,760 AS WELL AS REFORMS WE'RE TRYING 4482 02:50:59,760 --> 02:51:01,360 TO PUSH THROUGH FDA AND 4483 02:51:01,360 --> 02:51:03,200 CONGRESS. 4484 02:51:03,200 --> 02:51:05,000 MANY SUPPLEMENTS ARE SOLD ONLINE 4485 02:51:05,000 --> 02:51:07,320 ARE TAINTED WITH DANGEROUS 4486 02:51:07,320 --> 02:51:09,960 SUBSTANCES SUCH AS PRESCRIPTION 4487 02:51:09,960 --> 02:51:10,960 DRUGS, SYNTHETIC CHEMICALS, 4488 02:51:10,960 --> 02:51:11,400 OTHER INGREDIENTS. 4489 02:51:11,400 --> 02:51:19,680 WITH THED E ADVENT OF INTERNET 4490 02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:22,400 THIS INCLUES THOSE FOUND ON 4491 02:51:22,400 --> 02:51:24,920 AMAZON AND E-BAY, SOLD ON MAIN 4492 02:51:24,920 --> 02:51:26,360 RETAILER WEBSITE DOESN'T MEAN 4493 02:51:26,360 --> 02:51:29,000 THEY ARE SAFE OR NOT TAINTED. 4494 02:51:29,000 --> 02:51:31,520 SHEER NUMBER OF ONLINE RETAILERS 4495 02:51:31,520 --> 02:51:33,040 MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE FDA 4496 02:51:33,040 --> 02:51:38,600 TO SAFELY MONITOR THE MARKET. 4497 02:51:38,600 --> 02:51:41,360 FDA FOUND DANGEROUS UNLISTED 4498 02:51:41,360 --> 02:51:45,200 INGREDIENTS IN THOUSANDS OF 4499 02:51:45,200 --> 02:51:47,160 SUPPLEMENTS BUT THE AGENCY 4500 02:51:47,160 --> 02:51:49,800 STATES THAT THEIR LIST ONLY 4501 02:51:49,800 --> 02:51:53,120 INCLUDES A SMALL FRACTION OF THE 4502 02:51:53,120 --> 02:51:54,200 POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS AND 4503 02:51:54,200 --> 02:51:56,480 DANGEROUS PRODUCTS WITH HIDDEN 4504 02:51:56,480 --> 02:51:57,360 INGREDIENTS. 4505 02:51:57,360 --> 02:51:59,440 THE SLIDE LOOKS CROWDED BUT 4506 02:51:59,440 --> 02:52:00,600 THAT'S THE POINT. 4507 02:52:00,600 --> 02:52:03,640 AND PUT SIMPLY THE FDA DOES NOT 4508 02:52:03,640 --> 02:52:05,320 HAVE THE RESOURCES OR AUTHORITY 4509 02:52:05,320 --> 02:52:08,520 TO KEEP DANGEROUS PRODUCTS OFF 4510 02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:09,840 THE MARKET. 4511 02:52:09,840 --> 02:52:11,720 COMPANIES DON'T ALWAYS SECRETLY 4512 02:52:11,720 --> 02:52:13,200 INCLUDE UNSAFE INGREDIENTS. 4513 02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:15,640 SOMETIMES THEY OPENLY MARKET 4514 02:52:15,640 --> 02:52:17,600 SYNTHETIC CHEMICALS OR SUPER 4515 02:52:17,600 --> 02:52:22,240 CONCENTRATED IN PLANTS TO CREATE 4516 02:52:22,240 --> 02:52:26,120 PHARMACEUTICAL GRADE. 4517 02:52:26,120 --> 02:52:30,240 PURE CAFFEINE, A TEASPOON COULD 4518 02:52:30,240 --> 02:52:34,160 BE LETHAL. 4519 02:52:34,160 --> 02:52:35,240 THOSE BOTH PASSED AWAY. 4520 02:52:35,240 --> 02:52:37,320 IT TOOK FOUR YEARS FOR THE FDA 4521 02:52:37,320 --> 02:52:39,080 TO WARN COMPANIES TO STOP 4522 02:52:39,080 --> 02:52:40,760 SELLING POWDERED CAFFEINE 4523 02:52:40,760 --> 02:52:42,520 THROUGH GUIDANCE. 4524 02:52:42,520 --> 02:52:44,800 HERE DESPITE CLEAR THREAT FDA 4525 02:52:44,800 --> 02:52:47,680 FELL SHORT OF OUTRIGHT BANNING 4526 02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:53,240 PURE POWDER CAFFEINE. 4527 02:52:53,240 --> 02:52:57,040 SUPPLEMENT MANUFACTURERS MAKE AS 4528 02:52:57,040 --> 02:52:58,640 STRONG OR DANGEROUS AS 4529 02:52:58,640 --> 02:53:02,760 PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, USING RED 4530 02:53:02,760 --> 02:53:08,560 YEAST EXTRACTS IDENTICAL TO 4531 02:53:08,560 --> 02:53:10,000 LOVASTATIN TO SELF-TREAT 4532 02:53:10,000 --> 02:53:13,160 CHOLESTEROL, HYDRO CHLORIDE IS 4533 02:53:13,160 --> 02:53:15,360 FOR ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION, THE 4534 02:53:15,360 --> 02:53:17,120 BARK IS EXTRACTED AS SEXUAL 4535 02:53:17,120 --> 02:53:18,160 ENHANCEMENT SUPPLEMENTS IN THE 4536 02:53:18,160 --> 02:53:21,200 U.S., THESE HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED 4537 02:53:21,200 --> 02:53:23,000 WITH HEART ATTACKS, SEIZURES, 4538 02:53:23,000 --> 02:53:27,960 ANXIETY, AND HIGH BLOOD 4539 02:53:27,960 --> 02:53:29,800 PRESSURE. 4540 02:53:29,800 --> 02:53:31,800 COMPANIES CAN USE SELF-GRAS 4541 02:53:31,800 --> 02:53:33,320 NON-DIETARY INGREDIENTS AND 4542 02:53:33,320 --> 02:53:34,680 DISCLAIMERS TO AVOID BEING 4543 02:53:34,680 --> 02:53:36,640 REGULATED AS DIETARY 4544 02:53:36,640 --> 02:53:36,920 SUPPLEMENTS. 4545 02:53:36,920 --> 02:53:39,200 FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2018 FDA ISSUED 4546 02:53:39,200 --> 02:53:49,680 LETTERS WARNING COMPANIES TO 4547 02:53:51,080 --> 02:53:52,120 STAMP MARKETING TIANEPTIN BUT 4548 02:53:52,120 --> 02:53:58,360 CONTINUES TO BE SOLD, WITH LABEL 4549 02:53:58,360 --> 02:54:00,440 NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. 4550 02:54:00,440 --> 02:54:05,560 RETAILERS WILL LINK TO 4551 02:54:05,560 --> 02:54:07,280 INFORMATION ON TIANEPTIN USE AS 4552 02:54:07,280 --> 02:54:08,920 A COGNITIVE SUPPLEMENT. 4553 02:54:08,920 --> 02:54:11,080 MANY PRODUCTS COULD STILL FALL 4554 02:54:11,080 --> 02:54:14,320 UNDER OTHER FDA AND DEA 4555 02:54:14,320 --> 02:54:16,560 AUTHORITIES BUT THE GRAY AREA 4556 02:54:16,560 --> 02:54:19,480 MEAN MANY FAIL TO GET ON FDA'S 4557 02:54:19,480 --> 02:54:21,760 RADAR OR DEA'S RADAR AND FALL 4558 02:54:21,760 --> 02:54:24,720 THROUGH THE GAPS IN OVERSIGHT. 4559 02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:25,960 ANOTHER PROBLEM IN DIETARY 4560 02:54:25,960 --> 02:54:27,400 SUPPLEMENTS ARE DISEASE AND 4561 02:54:27,400 --> 02:54:28,600 TREATMENT CLAIMS. 4562 02:54:28,600 --> 02:54:30,000 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS CANNOT 4563 02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:32,320 LEGALLY CLAIM TO TREAT, 4564 02:54:32,320 --> 02:54:34,200 MITIGATE, CURE OR PREVENT 4565 02:54:34,200 --> 02:54:35,400 DISEASE. 4566 02:54:35,400 --> 02:54:38,120 THESE CLAIMS ARE COMMON. 4567 02:54:38,120 --> 02:54:39,720 NUTRITION ACTION HEALTH LETTER 4568 02:54:39,720 --> 02:54:42,000 WRITES ABOUT SUPPLEMENT AND 4569 02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:43,040 EVALUATES EVIDENCE BEHIND 4570 02:54:43,040 --> 02:54:43,600 CLAIMS. 4571 02:54:43,600 --> 02:54:48,400 SUCH AS THE ONE IN THE ARTICLE, 4572 02:54:48,400 --> 02:54:49,480 MARKETS WITH IMPLIED DISEASE 4573 02:54:49,480 --> 02:54:50,040 CLAIMS. 4574 02:54:50,040 --> 02:54:51,360 THERE'S VERY LITTLE EVIDENCE TO 4575 02:54:51,360 --> 02:54:53,400 SUPPORT SUCH CLAIMS AS EFFECTIVE 4576 02:54:53,400 --> 02:54:54,960 IN PREVENTING OR TREATING 4577 02:54:54,960 --> 02:54:55,400 DIABETES. 4578 02:54:55,400 --> 02:54:57,160 SUCH CLAIMS POSE RISK TO 4579 02:54:57,160 --> 02:55:00,200 CONSUMERS WHO MAY MISUNDERSTAND 4580 02:55:00,200 --> 02:55:00,440 EFFICACY. 4581 02:55:00,440 --> 02:55:09,560 OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS ASKED 4582 02:55:09,560 --> 02:55:11,160 FDA ENFORCEMENT AND SOUGHT 4583 02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:13,880 ENFORCEMENT ON CLAIMS RELATED TO 4584 02:55:13,880 --> 02:55:14,720 OPIOID ADDICTION. 4585 02:55:14,720 --> 02:55:16,360 WE'VE REQUESTED ACTION AGAINST 4586 02:55:16,360 --> 02:55:18,160 COMPANIES MARKETING DISEASE 4587 02:55:18,160 --> 02:55:22,080 AND TOBACCO ADDICTION.RTILITY 4588 02:55:22,080 --> 02:55:23,760 LAST YEAR FDA SENT WARNING 4589 02:55:23,760 --> 02:55:27,520 LABELS TO FIVE COMPANIES WITH 4590 02:55:27,520 --> 02:55:27,960 CLAIMS. 4591 02:55:27,960 --> 02:55:29,160 MANY DISEASE CLAIMS CAPITALIZE 4592 02:55:29,160 --> 02:55:32,560 ON WHATEVER THE PUBLIC HEALTH 4593 02:55:32,560 --> 02:55:34,600 CONCERN IS MOST PREVALENT. 4594 02:55:34,600 --> 02:55:38,040 SUCH AS OPIOID CRISIS, H1N1, OF 4595 02:55:38,040 --> 02:55:40,240 COURSE MOST RECENTLY COVID-19. 4596 02:55:40,240 --> 02:55:42,640 FDA'S OPERATION QUACK HACK IS 4597 02:55:42,640 --> 02:55:45,440 THE CAMPAIGN TO COME BAD 4598 02:55:45,440 --> 02:55:49,320 COVID-19 FRAUD, MOST COVID-19 4599 02:55:49,320 --> 02:55:56,320 WARNING LETTERS INVOLVE DIETARY 4600 02:55:56,320 --> 02:56:00,760 SUPPLEMENTS. 4601 02:56:00,760 --> 02:56:11,280 WE CSPI IS MONITORING, INCLUDING 4602 02:56:11,640 --> 02:56:16,080 THAT SOLD BY JIM BAKKER, AND 4603 02:56:16,080 --> 02:56:19,920 SENT LETTERS, AND AGAINST DR. 4604 02:56:19,920 --> 02:56:22,320 JOSEPH McCOLA TWO ADVISES TO 4605 02:56:22,320 --> 02:56:30,040 CONTRACT CORONAVIRUS AFTER 4606 02:56:30,040 --> 02:56:31,120 TAKING WHAT HE SELLS. 4607 02:56:31,120 --> 02:56:36,160 HE IS A MAJOR DONOR TO 4608 02:56:36,160 --> 02:56:38,120 ANTI-VACCINATION CAMPAIGNS. 4609 02:56:38,120 --> 02:56:44,640 AFTER RECEIVING OUR ENFORCEMENT 4610 02:56:44,640 --> 02:56:49,120 REQUEST ACTION WAS TAKEN AGAINST 4611 02:56:49,120 --> 02:56:51,480 BAKKER AND MERCOLA. 4612 02:56:51,480 --> 02:56:53,520 MANY COMPANIES STARTED 4613 02:56:53,520 --> 02:56:57,120 CAPITALIZING ON FEARS BY 4614 02:56:57,120 --> 02:56:59,920 CLAIMING PRODUCTS COULD PREVENT 4615 02:56:59,920 --> 02:57:05,520 OR TREAT VIRUSES. 4616 02:57:05,520 --> 02:57:07,000 NOT EXPRESSLY MARKETING 4617 02:57:07,000 --> 02:57:08,000 SUPPLEMENTS FOR COVID THEY ARE 4618 02:57:08,000 --> 02:57:10,640 TRYING TO CASH IN ON CORONAVIRUS 4619 02:57:10,640 --> 02:57:12,320 FEARS SELLING PRODUCTS WITH 4620 02:57:12,320 --> 02:57:16,160 LITTLE TO NO EVIDENCE FOR 4621 02:57:16,160 --> 02:57:17,720 ANTI-VIRAL PROPERTIES. 4622 02:57:17,720 --> 02:57:23,680 MANY CLAIMS ARE NEVER 4623 02:57:23,680 --> 02:57:24,040 SUBSTANTIATED. 4624 02:57:24,040 --> 02:57:25,360 MANY USE LITTLE TO NO EVIDENCE 4625 02:57:25,360 --> 02:57:26,760 TO SUPPORT CLAIMS. 4626 02:57:26,760 --> 02:57:29,680 WHEN COMPANIES DO CITE EVIDENCE, 4627 02:57:29,680 --> 02:57:31,040 IT'S WEAK OR MISLEADING. 4628 02:57:31,040 --> 02:57:32,560 FOR EXAMPLE, SOME COMPANIES USE 4629 02:57:32,560 --> 02:57:37,160 PRACTICE KNOWN AS FAIRY DUSTING, 4630 02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:41,040 CITING TO STUDIES SHOWING 4631 02:57:41,040 --> 02:57:41,960 EFFECTIVENESS AT LEVELS MUCH 4632 02:57:41,960 --> 02:57:45,440 HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE 4633 02:57:45,440 --> 02:57:45,720 MARKETING. 4634 02:57:45,720 --> 02:57:48,560 AND CLINICALLY TESTS, HERE IS AN 4635 02:57:48,560 --> 02:57:50,640 ARTICLE WITH THREE EXAMPLES, ALL 4636 02:57:50,640 --> 02:57:54,080 THREE TEST PERFORMED NO BETTER 4637 02:57:54,080 --> 02:58:00,080 THAN PLACEBO OR NO EVIDENCE OF 4638 02:58:00,080 --> 02:58:00,680 EFFICACY. 4639 02:58:00,680 --> 02:58:01,840 UNFORTUNATELY, THE PRODUCTS THAT 4640 02:58:01,840 --> 02:58:03,840 CONSUMERS TAKE TO KEEP THEM 4641 02:58:03,840 --> 02:58:12,120 HEALTHY AND SAFE CAN BE 4642 02:58:12,120 --> 02:58:13,560 DANGEROUS AND INEFFECTIVE, 4643 02:58:13,560 --> 02:58:17,160 BAKKER AND MERCOLA TOLD PEOPLE 4644 02:58:17,160 --> 02:58:19,400 TO CONTRACT COVID AFTER TAKING 4645 02:58:19,400 --> 02:58:23,240 THEIR VITAMINS. 4646 02:58:23,240 --> 02:58:28,160 CONSUMERS ARE USING THEIR MONEY 4647 02:58:28,160 --> 02:58:32,480 AND TIME ON UNSAFE SUPPLEMENTS, 4648 02:58:32,480 --> 02:58:33,840 PUTTING THEMSELVES IN HARM'S 4649 02:58:33,840 --> 02:58:34,200 WAY. 4650 02:58:34,200 --> 02:58:35,520 THE MESSAGE THAT OUR HEALTH 4651 02:58:35,520 --> 02:58:37,120 PROBLEMS AND FEARS CAN GO AWAY 4652 02:58:37,120 --> 02:58:39,560 WITH SIMPLE POWDER OTHER PILL IS 4653 02:58:39,560 --> 02:58:40,720 EXTREMELY ALLURING. 4654 02:58:40,720 --> 02:58:41,720 FDA IDENTIFIED SOME CATEGORIES 4655 02:58:41,720 --> 02:58:42,560 OF SUPPLEMENTS THAT HAPPEN TO 4656 02:58:42,560 --> 02:58:44,240 HAVE MORE SAFETY AND EFFICACY 4657 02:58:44,240 --> 02:58:46,400 ISSUES THAN MOST OTHER 4658 02:58:46,400 --> 02:58:46,720 SUPPLEMENTS. 4659 02:58:46,720 --> 02:58:49,440 THESE CATEGORIES INCLUDE WEIGHT 4660 02:58:49,440 --> 02:58:50,640 LOSS, PERFORMANCE ENHANCING, 4661 02:58:50,640 --> 02:58:51,280 WORKOUT, SEXUAL ENHANCEMENT, COG 4662 02:58:51,280 --> 02:58:55,480 ANY COGNITIVE ENHANCEMENT. 4663 02:58:55,480 --> 02:58:56,520 YOU'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY 4664 02:58:56,520 --> 02:59:00,120 SCAMMERS OR FRIENDS ON SOCIAL 4665 02:59:00,120 --> 02:59:01,640 MEDIA TRYING TO SELL 4666 02:59:01,640 --> 02:59:03,200 SUPPLEMENTS, TENDING TO RELY ON 4667 02:59:03,200 --> 02:59:04,360 MARKETING TECHNIQUES AND SOCIAL 4668 02:59:04,360 --> 02:59:06,440 MEDIA TO MAKE UNFOUNDED CLAIMS 4669 02:59:06,440 --> 02:59:10,480 AND AVOID DETECTION BY THE FDA. 4670 02:59:10,480 --> 02:59:13,560 HOW DO THESE BAD ACTORS GET AWAY 4671 02:59:13,560 --> 02:59:14,800 WITH THIS? 4672 02:59:14,800 --> 02:59:15,720 FOLLOWING IS JUST SOME OF THE 4673 02:59:15,720 --> 02:59:18,200 PROBLEMS AS WELL AS SOLUTIONS 4674 02:59:18,200 --> 02:59:19,600 THAT CSPI IS ADVOCATING FOR. 4675 02:59:19,600 --> 02:59:23,360 FDA CAN CARRY OUT 4676 02:59:23,360 --> 02:59:25,360 RECOMMENDATIONS WITH CURRENT 4677 02:59:25,360 --> 02:59:26,040 STATUTORY AUTHORITY. 4678 02:59:26,040 --> 02:59:29,920 NUMBER ONE, FDA IS OVERWHELMED. 4679 02:59:29,920 --> 02:59:31,720 WHAT WAS A $4 BILLION INDUSTRY 4680 02:59:31,720 --> 02:59:34,680 COMPRISED OF 4,000 PRODUCTS IS 4681 02:59:34,680 --> 02:59:35,960 NOW WORTH MORE THAN $40 BILLION, 4682 02:59:35,960 --> 02:59:38,200 WITH MORE THAN 50 TO 80,000 4683 02:59:38,200 --> 02:59:41,040 PRODTS AVAILABLE TO CONSUMERS. 4684 02:59:41,040 --> 02:59:41,880 FDA RESOURCES HAVE NOT GROWN 4685 02:59:41,880 --> 02:59:43,480 WITH THE MARKET. 4686 02:59:43,480 --> 02:59:44,480 AGENCY NEEDS ADDITIONAL STAFF 4687 02:59:44,480 --> 02:59:47,600 AND FUNDING TO MANAGE THIS 4688 02:59:47,600 --> 02:59:48,240 GROWING INDUSTRY. 4689 02:59:48,240 --> 02:59:51,360 PROVIDING STATE A.G.s WITH 4690 02:59:51,360 --> 02:59:52,520 ABILITY TO ENFORCE DSHEA IN 4691 02:59:52,520 --> 02:59:57,160 THEIR STATE WILL HELP THEM 4692 02:59:57,160 --> 03:00:01,800 ADDRESS THE SMALL FLY BY NIGHT 4693 03:00:01,800 --> 03:00:02,600 COMPANIES. 4694 03:00:02,600 --> 03:00:05,200 MANY SOLUTIONS WILL HELP FDA 4695 03:00:05,200 --> 03:00:08,520 TRACK AND ADDRESS UNSAFE 4696 03:00:08,520 --> 03:00:09,840 SUPPLEMENTS. 4697 03:00:09,840 --> 03:00:10,800 TWO, COMPANIES INTRODUCE 4698 03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:12,840 INGREDIENTS AND SUPPLEMENTS 4699 03:00:12,840 --> 03:00:13,680 WITHOUT INFORMING THE FDA, 4700 03:00:13,680 --> 03:00:17,840 IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT IS ON 4701 03:00:17,840 --> 03:00:19,520 THE MARKET LET ALONE 4702 03:00:19,520 --> 03:00:21,440 SUBSTANTIATE CLAIMS. 4703 03:00:21,440 --> 03:00:23,520 THE FDA SHOULD CREATE DIETARY 4704 03:00:23,520 --> 03:00:24,120 SUPPLEMENT LISTING DATABASE, 4705 03:00:24,120 --> 03:00:25,320 COMPANIES SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO 4706 03:00:25,320 --> 03:00:28,040 LIST THEIR PRODUCTS IN A PUBLIC 4707 03:00:28,040 --> 03:00:29,560 DATABASE WHICH DESCRIBES THE 4708 03:00:29,560 --> 03:00:31,120 PRODUCT INGREDIENT, CLAIMS, 4709 03:00:31,120 --> 03:00:32,640 SAFETY CONCERNS, EVIDENCE, AND 4710 03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:35,400 OTHER IMPORTANT PRODUCT 4711 03:00:35,400 --> 03:00:35,720 INFORMATION. 4712 03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:36,240 THIS WILL HELP TRACK AND 4713 03:00:36,240 --> 03:00:37,520 UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ON THE MARKET 4714 03:00:37,520 --> 03:00:40,040 AND CLAIMS MADE BY SUPPLEMENTS. 4715 03:00:40,040 --> 03:00:41,240 MAKING THESE LISTINGS AVAILABLE 4716 03:00:41,240 --> 03:00:43,760 TO THE PUBLIC WILL HELP 4717 03:00:43,760 --> 03:00:46,160 RESEARCHERS AND WATCH DOGS LIKE 4718 03:00:46,160 --> 03:00:49,480 OURSELVES BRING IT TO FDA 4719 03:00:49,480 --> 03:00:50,120 ATTENTION. 4720 03:00:50,120 --> 03:00:52,200 CLOSING THE GRAS LOOPHOLE IS 4721 03:00:52,200 --> 03:00:54,960 IMPORTANT, MANY USE IT FOR FOOD 4722 03:00:54,960 --> 03:00:58,000 TO BYPASS FDA REVIEW, THIS MEANS 4723 03:00:58,000 --> 03:01:00,640 COMPANIES CAN MAKE THEIR OWN 4724 03:01:00,640 --> 03:01:06,560 DETERMINATIONS AND ADD DIETARY 4725 03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:08,400 INGREDIENTS WITHOUT NOTIFYING 4726 03:01:08,400 --> 03:01:09,800 FDA. 4727 03:01:09,800 --> 03:01:11,880 INSTEAD OF GRAS SHOULD REVISE 4728 03:01:11,880 --> 03:01:14,800 GUIDANCE TO SHARE INFORMATION TO 4729 03:01:14,800 --> 03:01:17,880 ASSESS SAFETY OF EACH DIETARY 4730 03:01:17,880 --> 03:01:18,600 SUPPLEMENT. 4731 03:01:18,600 --> 03:01:20,920 THREE, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, 4732 03:01:20,920 --> 03:01:21,680 COMPANIES SELL NON-DIETARY 4733 03:01:21,680 --> 03:01:27,400 INGREDIENTS AS SUPPLEMENTS. 4734 03:01:27,400 --> 03:01:30,960 THE FDA SHOULD TO REGULATE AS 4735 03:01:30,960 --> 03:01:32,320 ADULTERATED SUPPLEMENTS 4736 03:01:32,320 --> 03:01:34,280 REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT 4737 03:01:34,280 --> 03:01:38,280 CONTAINS DIETARY INGREDIENTS. 4738 03:01:38,280 --> 03:01:43,000 FOUR, COMPANIES CAN EVADE 4739 03:01:43,000 --> 03:01:44,400 PENALTIES, MANY VIOLATE DSHEA 4740 03:01:44,400 --> 03:01:50,040 KNOWING THEY WILL GET A WARNING 4741 03:01:50,040 --> 03:01:53,440 LETTER AND ASSUME THEY WILL GET 4742 03:01:53,440 --> 03:01:56,840 A SLAP ON THE WRIST, OR REBRAND 4743 03:01:56,840 --> 03:01:58,440 OR REFORMULATE SO FDA WOULD HAVE 4744 03:01:58,440 --> 03:01:59,800 TO RESEND A WARNING LETTER FOR A 4745 03:01:59,800 --> 03:02:07,680 NEW PRODUCT. 4746 03:02:07,680 --> 03:02:14,080 BAD ACTORS WILL DISSOLVE AND THE 4747 03:02:14,080 --> 03:02:16,360 FDA SHOULD ADMINISTER CIVIL 4748 03:02:16,360 --> 03:02:17,680 PENALTIES FOR FIRST TIME, 4749 03:02:17,680 --> 03:02:20,040 INCREASE FOR REPEATED VIOLATIONS 4750 03:02:20,040 --> 03:02:26,640 WHEN COMPANIES REBRAND AND 4751 03:02:26,640 --> 03:02:27,560 REFORMULATE. 4752 03:02:27,560 --> 03:02:30,120 APOLOGIES FOR MISNUMBERING, I 4753 03:02:30,120 --> 03:02:31,440 WAS UPDATING AT 1 A.M. AFTER 4754 03:02:31,440 --> 03:02:33,000 SICK BABIES WERE GOING TO SLEEP. 4755 03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:35,360 THERE'S INTEREST ON THE HILL FOR 4756 03:02:35,360 --> 03:02:35,920 REFORM. 4757 03:02:35,920 --> 03:02:46,360 SUSPECTORS DID YOUR -- - 4758 03:02:56,040 --> 03:02:57,160 SENATORS HAVE INTRODUCED 4759 03:02:57,160 --> 03:02:57,440 LEGISLATION. 4760 03:02:57,440 --> 03:03:00,120 THIS INCLUDES SOME REFORM SUCH 4761 03:03:00,120 --> 03:03:03,800 AS CREATION OF LISTING DATABASE, 4762 03:03:03,800 --> 03:03:07,680 IMPROVING OVERSIGHT, PROTECTING 4763 03:03:07,680 --> 03:03:11,560 PRODUCTS AND REQUIRING FDA TO 4764 03:03:11,560 --> 03:03:13,760 FINALIZE GUIDANCE. 4765 03:03:13,760 --> 03:03:16,040 WE'RE WORKING WITH CONGRESSIONAL 4766 03:03:16,040 --> 03:03:18,320 OFFICES TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF OUR 4767 03:03:18,320 --> 03:03:19,600 RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PREVIOUS 4768 03:03:19,600 --> 03:03:21,800 SLIDE, SO I WOULD URGE EVERYONE 4769 03:03:21,800 --> 03:03:23,320 TO CONTINUE TO PAY ATTENTION TO 4770 03:03:23,320 --> 03:03:24,800 WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT'S 4771 03:03:24,800 --> 03:03:28,840 GOING ON ON THE HILL, AND WE'RE 4772 03:03:28,840 --> 03:03:33,200 ALWAYS TRYING TO PRESS FDA TO DO 4773 03:03:33,200 --> 03:03:37,520 REFORMS THEMSELVES AND ALSO WE 4774 03:03:37,520 --> 03:03:39,480 CONTINUE TO NOTIFY FDA OF 4775 03:03:39,480 --> 03:03:40,720 VIOLATING SUPPLEMENTS ON THE 4776 03:03:40,720 --> 03:03:41,720 MARKET THAT WE DISCOVER. 4777 03:03:41,720 --> 03:03:43,560 BECAUSE I'M OUT OF TIME I HAVE 4778 03:03:43,560 --> 03:03:44,560 TO STOP HERE. 4779 03:03:44,560 --> 03:03:46,120 THERE ARE MORE CONSUMER SAFETY 4780 03:03:46,120 --> 03:03:48,520 ISSUES AND REFORMS I'VE YET TO 4781 03:03:48,520 --> 03:03:48,880 TOUCH ON. 4782 03:03:48,880 --> 03:03:53,600 FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT ME. 4783 03:03:53,600 --> 03:03:55,280 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR 4784 03:03:55,280 --> 03:03:57,120 TIME AND I LOOK FORWARD TO 4785 03:03:57,120 --> 03:04:02,440 EVERYONE'S QUESTIONS. 4786 03:04:02,440 --> 03:04:03,840 >> MANY THANKS, JENSEN. 4787 03:04:03,840 --> 03:04:06,440 APPRECIATE YOUR TALK AND ROLE 4788 03:04:06,440 --> 03:04:08,400 THAT CSPI HAS BEEN PLAYING. 4789 03:04:08,400 --> 03:04:14,640 I'M GOING TO TURN TO AN OLD 4790 03:04:14,640 --> 03:04:16,560 FRIEND, SALLY SQUIRES, WHO IS 4791 03:04:16,560 --> 03:04:17,720 REPRESENTING A DIFFERENT 4792 03:04:17,720 --> 03:04:19,160 PERSPECTIVE. 4793 03:04:19,160 --> 03:04:20,800 SHE WAS FOR MANY YEARS A 4794 03:04:20,800 --> 03:04:23,400 JOURNALIST WITH THE "WASHINGTON 4795 03:04:23,400 --> 03:04:26,640 POST," AND CONTINUES HER 4796 03:04:26,640 --> 03:04:27,960 ACTIVITIES IN NUTRITION USING 4797 03:04:27,960 --> 03:04:30,400 THE LEAN PLATE CLUB, IT'S NICE 4798 03:04:30,400 --> 03:04:39,880 TO SEE YOUR FACE. 4799 03:04:39,880 --> 03:04:46,720 YOU MAY BE MUTED. 4800 03:04:46,720 --> 03:04:47,640 I'M NOT SURE. 4801 03:04:47,640 --> 03:04:49,720 SALLY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? 4802 03:04:49,720 --> 03:04:54,320 >> HELLO. 4803 03:04:54,320 --> 03:04:57,360 NICE TO SEE YOU. 4804 03:04:57,360 --> 03:05:03,000 4805 03:05:03,000 --> 03:05:06,440 >> YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN 4806 03:05:06,440 --> 03:05:08,240 WHENEVER YOUR READY. 4807 03:05:08,240 --> 03:05:09,400 >> WONDERFUL. 4808 03:05:09,400 --> 03:05:10,800 THERE WE GO. 4809 03:05:10,800 --> 03:05:14,440 SO, SHALL I GO THROUGH AND 4810 03:05:14,440 --> 03:05:14,960 START? 4811 03:05:14,960 --> 03:05:17,200 >> I'M NOT SURE THE SHARE IS 4812 03:05:17,200 --> 03:05:18,440 COMING THROUGH YET. 4813 03:05:18,440 --> 03:05:20,000 CLICK THE SHARE BUTTON AT THE 4814 03:05:20,000 --> 03:05:20,960 BOTTOM AND CHOOSE THE WINDOW YOU 4815 03:05:20,960 --> 03:05:22,640 WANT TO SHARE AND CLICK THE 4816 03:05:22,640 --> 03:05:24,400 SHARE BUTTON AGAIN. 4817 03:05:24,400 --> 03:05:25,560 >> LET'S SEE. 4818 03:05:25,560 --> 03:05:27,640 >> A COUPLE EXTRA STEPS. 4819 03:05:27,640 --> 03:05:30,840 THERE WE GO. 4820 03:05:30,840 --> 03:05:33,480 LOOKS GREAT. 4821 03:05:33,480 --> 03:05:34,000 >> GOOD. 4822 03:05:34,000 --> 03:05:34,720 OKAY. 4823 03:05:34,720 --> 03:05:36,600 HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 4824 03:05:36,600 --> 03:05:37,960 OKAY. 4825 03:05:37,960 --> 03:05:38,600 THAT'S GREAT. 4826 03:05:38,600 --> 03:05:39,800 WELL, THANK YOU. 4827 03:05:39,800 --> 03:05:41,440 I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE. 4828 03:05:41,440 --> 03:05:45,640 AND THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE 4829 03:05:45,640 --> 03:05:47,200 CONFERENCES. 4830 03:05:47,200 --> 03:05:50,480 TODAY I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU 4831 03:05:50,480 --> 03:05:53,560 JUST AN OVERVIEW OF HOW I HAVE 4832 03:05:53,560 --> 03:05:56,120 APPROACHED AS A LONGTIME 4833 03:05:56,120 --> 03:06:00,320 JOURNALIST, HOW I'VE APPROACHED 4834 03:06:00,320 --> 03:06:01,680 COVERING DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, 4835 03:06:01,680 --> 03:06:04,640 AND I SPENT 24 YEARS AT THE POST 4836 03:06:04,640 --> 03:06:05,480 COVERING HEALTH AND MEDICINE, 4837 03:06:05,480 --> 03:06:07,880 AND THEN WAS IN PUBLIC AFFAIRS 4838 03:06:07,880 --> 03:06:09,080 FOR 12 YEARS. 4839 03:06:09,080 --> 03:06:16,240 NOW BACK BEING PART OF THE 4840 03:06:16,240 --> 03:06:17,800 "POST" TALENT NETWORK, THIS IS 4841 03:06:17,800 --> 03:06:19,400 MY PERSPECTIVE ON HOW I COVER 4842 03:06:19,400 --> 03:06:20,480 THIS AREA. 4843 03:06:20,480 --> 03:06:22,080 LET'S SEE IF I'M GOING -- THERE 4844 03:06:22,080 --> 03:06:23,080 WE GO. 4845 03:06:23,080 --> 03:06:24,880 I AM ALSO REALLY THRILLED TO BE 4846 03:06:24,880 --> 03:06:28,560 HERE BECAUSE I HAD THE PLEASURE 4847 03:06:28,560 --> 03:06:34,160 OF KNOWING MARY FRANCES PICCIANO 4848 03:06:34,160 --> 03:06:35,600 AND HER LATE HUSBAND, I'M 4849 03:06:35,600 --> 03:06:37,200 DELIGHTED WE'RE USING THIS TO 4850 03:06:37,200 --> 03:06:40,120 HONOR THEM AND REALLY THINK IT'S 4851 03:06:40,120 --> 03:06:44,920 TERRIFIC WAY TO HONOR THEIR 4852 03:06:44,920 --> 03:06:46,000 MEMORIES AND THEIR WORK. 4853 03:06:46,000 --> 03:06:48,280 I THOUGHT I WOULD PUT HER 4854 03:06:48,280 --> 03:06:49,880 PICTURE UP BECAUSE SHE WAS A 4855 03:06:49,880 --> 03:06:51,320 SPECIAL PERSON AND I KNOW WAS 4856 03:06:51,320 --> 03:06:54,000 VERY IMPORTANT TO THE OFFICE OF 4857 03:06:54,000 --> 03:06:54,440 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS. 4858 03:06:54,440 --> 03:06:59,560 SO, WHAT I PLAN TO COVER TODAY, 4859 03:06:59,560 --> 03:07:01,240 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SEEING 4860 03:07:01,240 --> 03:07:01,680 THIS. 4861 03:07:01,680 --> 03:07:05,520 WHAT I PLAN TO COVER IS HOW I 4862 03:07:05,520 --> 03:07:09,040 REPORT STORIES AND WHAT YOU CAN 4863 03:07:09,040 --> 03:07:10,360 DO AS A SCIENTIST TO BE PART OF 4864 03:07:10,360 --> 03:07:14,360 THE CONVERSATION WHICH I THINK 4865 03:07:14,360 --> 03:07:15,000 IS IMPORTANT, WHETHER DIETARY 4866 03:07:15,000 --> 03:07:16,000 SUPPLEMENTS OR OTHER WORK YOU 4867 03:07:16,000 --> 03:07:17,480 MIGHT BE DOING. 4868 03:07:17,480 --> 03:07:18,640 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF 4869 03:07:18,640 --> 03:07:22,240 US TO BE PART OF A GROWING 4870 03:07:22,240 --> 03:07:23,440 CONVERSATION ABOUT SCIENCE AND 4871 03:07:23,440 --> 03:07:31,160 MEDICINE AND HEALTH. 4872 03:07:31,160 --> 03:07:34,160 SO, LET'S SEE. 4873 03:07:34,160 --> 03:07:38,400 SOMEHOW MY -- SOMEHOW THE 4874 03:07:38,400 --> 03:07:40,400 ADVANCE FOR MY NEXT -- 4875 03:07:40,400 --> 03:07:45,480 >> CLICK ON THE SLIDES ONCE. 4876 03:07:45,480 --> 03:07:46,200 >> GOT IT. 4877 03:07:46,200 --> 03:07:47,320 WHAT MAKES A STORY? 4878 03:07:47,320 --> 03:07:50,280 IN THE NEWSROOM WE USED TO SAY A 4879 03:07:50,280 --> 03:07:53,760 STORY WAS ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED 4880 03:07:53,760 --> 03:07:55,280 TO A REPORTER, AND THEN A SERIES 4881 03:07:55,280 --> 03:07:57,600 WAS ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO AN 4882 03:07:57,600 --> 03:07:58,840 EDITOR, AND A PROJECT WAS 4883 03:07:58,840 --> 03:08:02,280 ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO THE 4884 03:08:02,280 --> 03:08:03,080 MANAGING EDITOR. 4885 03:08:03,080 --> 03:08:06,480 THAT'S TONGUE IN CHEEK BUT 4886 03:08:06,480 --> 03:08:09,880 REPORTERS AND JOURNALISTS HAVE 4887 03:08:09,880 --> 03:08:11,640 LIVES THAT ALL KINDS OF THINGS 4888 03:08:11,640 --> 03:08:14,080 HAPPEN, THAT OFTEN IS THE SOURCE 4889 03:08:14,080 --> 03:08:15,600 OF HAVING THEM THINK ABOUT WHAT 4890 03:08:15,600 --> 03:08:16,600 MIGHT BE A STORY. 4891 03:08:16,600 --> 03:08:19,160 OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE MANY OTHER 4892 03:08:19,160 --> 03:08:22,040 SOURCES AS WELL FROM SCIENTIFIC 4893 03:08:22,040 --> 03:08:24,640 JOURNALS, THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN 4894 03:08:24,640 --> 03:08:26,600 THE NEWS, OR EVENTS, I THINK 4895 03:08:26,600 --> 03:08:27,440 SADLY WE'RE SEEING ANOTHER EVENT 4896 03:08:27,440 --> 03:08:29,440 THAT IS GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER 4897 03:08:29,440 --> 03:08:30,560 FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH, ET 4898 03:08:30,560 --> 03:08:30,800 CETERA. 4899 03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:35,560 SO I THINK LOTS OF THINGS MAKE A 4900 03:08:35,560 --> 03:08:37,360 STORY BUT IN TERMS OF -- THERE 4901 03:08:37,360 --> 03:08:39,560 IS SOME TRUTH TO THE FACT THAT 4902 03:08:39,560 --> 03:08:41,320 IT'S WHAT HAS GRABBED THE 4903 03:08:41,320 --> 03:08:45,520 JOURNALIST OR EDITORS OR THE 4904 03:08:45,520 --> 03:08:46,720 MANAGING EDITOR'S INTERESTS, 4905 03:08:46,720 --> 03:08:50,480 THAT CAN HELP DRIVE WHAT MAKES A 4906 03:08:50,480 --> 03:08:51,200 STORY. 4907 03:08:51,200 --> 03:08:52,160 WHAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST 4908 03:08:52,160 --> 03:08:55,200 30 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS 4909 03:08:55,200 --> 03:08:59,320 BUSINESS IS THAT INFORMATION 4910 03:08:59,320 --> 03:09:00,120 SOURCES HAVE MULTIPLIED, AND 4911 03:09:00,120 --> 03:09:02,960 SOCIAL MEDIA AS MANY OF YOU WILL 4912 03:09:02,960 --> 03:09:05,280 BE WELL AWARE HAS VERY MUCH 4913 03:09:05,280 --> 03:09:07,760 OUTPACED NEWSPAPERS AS AN 4914 03:09:07,760 --> 03:09:10,480 INFORMATION SOURCE. 4915 03:09:10,480 --> 03:09:12,000 AND THAT'S -- THERE ARE PLUSES 4916 03:09:12,000 --> 03:09:14,040 AND MINUSES BUT IT'S MADE FOR A 4917 03:09:14,040 --> 03:09:15,600 DIFFERENT KIND OF ATMOSPHERE AND 4918 03:09:15,600 --> 03:09:17,600 HOW PEOPLE GET THEIR NEWS. 4919 03:09:17,600 --> 03:09:19,520 AND AS YOU MAY KNOW, MAYBE YOU 4920 03:09:19,520 --> 03:09:21,520 ARE SOMEONE THAT DOES THIS 4921 03:09:21,520 --> 03:09:23,840 YOURSELF, THAT MUCH OF THE NEWS 4922 03:09:23,840 --> 03:09:27,320 THAT IS NOW DISSEMINATED IS NOT 4923 03:09:27,320 --> 03:09:28,600 COMING IN FROM LEGACY 4924 03:09:28,600 --> 03:09:29,520 ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE 4925 03:09:29,520 --> 03:09:30,920 "WASHINGTON POST" OR "NEW YORK 4926 03:09:30,920 --> 03:09:35,040 TIMES" OR "WALL STREET JOURNAL." 4927 03:09:35,040 --> 03:09:37,400 BUT RATHER FROM INSTAGRAM, 4928 03:09:37,400 --> 03:09:38,840 FACEBOOK, TIKTOK AND YouTube 4929 03:09:38,840 --> 03:09:40,320 AND TWITTER AND ALL DIFFERENT 4930 03:09:40,320 --> 03:09:42,920 KINDS OF PLACES. 4931 03:09:42,920 --> 03:09:44,520 SO, THAT'S REALLY EXPANDED IN 4932 03:09:44,520 --> 03:09:46,080 MANY WAYS THE INFORMATION THAT 4933 03:09:46,080 --> 03:09:46,880 IS AVAILABLE. 4934 03:09:46,880 --> 03:09:49,200 AND THEN ONE WAY THAT'S GOOD BUT 4935 03:09:49,200 --> 03:09:51,920 IN ANOTHER WAY THAT'S NOT SO 4936 03:09:51,920 --> 03:09:53,520 GOOD BECAUSE TO MY MIND 4937 03:09:53,520 --> 03:09:54,960 JOURNALISTS ARE TRAINED AS 4938 03:09:54,960 --> 03:09:57,560 PROFESSIONALS, JUST AS 4939 03:09:57,560 --> 03:09:58,720 SCIENTISTS ARE, AND YOU ARE A 4940 03:09:58,720 --> 03:10:00,160 SENSE OF WHAT A STORY SHOULD BE 4941 03:10:00,160 --> 03:10:08,000 AND HOW IT SHOULD BE SOURCED, 4942 03:10:08,000 --> 03:10:12,080 NOT EVERYTHING THAT COMES ACROSS 4943 03:10:12,080 --> 03:10:13,880 A DIGITAL CHANNEL HAS A RIGOROUS 4944 03:10:13,880 --> 03:10:15,520 LOOK FROM A JOURNALIST AND THEIR 4945 03:10:15,520 --> 03:10:15,960 EDITOR. 4946 03:10:15,960 --> 03:10:17,600 IT CAN BE GOOD AND BAD. 4947 03:10:17,600 --> 03:10:19,840 BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF 4948 03:10:19,840 --> 03:10:21,200 SIMILARITIES BETWEEN JOURNALISTS 4949 03:10:21,200 --> 03:10:23,440 AND SCIENTISTS. 4950 03:10:23,440 --> 03:10:26,720 SO SCIENTISTS ARE LOOKING AT A 4951 03:10:26,720 --> 03:10:28,320 PREMISE AND THEY INVESTIGATE A 4952 03:10:28,320 --> 03:10:29,760 PARTICULAR THEORY. 4953 03:10:29,760 --> 03:10:31,720 AND THEY GO ABOUT IT TESTING 4954 03:10:31,720 --> 03:10:34,360 THAT THEORY AND THEY WRITE IT UP 4955 03:10:34,360 --> 03:10:35,760 FOR SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL. 4956 03:10:35,760 --> 03:10:37,200 HOPEFULLY GETS ACCEPTED. 4957 03:10:37,200 --> 03:10:38,800 AND JOURNALISTS DO MUCH THE SAME 4958 03:10:38,800 --> 03:10:39,880 THING. 4959 03:10:39,880 --> 03:10:43,080 YOU HAVE AN IDEA FOR A STORY, 4960 03:10:43,080 --> 03:10:44,960 YOU REPORT IT, AND MANY TIMES 4961 03:10:44,960 --> 03:10:46,640 YOUR IDEA WAS RIGHT ON TARGET, 4962 03:10:46,640 --> 03:10:49,880 BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NOT. 4963 03:10:49,880 --> 03:10:51,240 YOU LEARN SOMETHING THAT MIGHT 4964 03:10:51,240 --> 03:10:53,520 TAKE YOU ON A DETOUR AND MIGHT 4965 03:10:53,520 --> 03:10:55,360 NOT HAVE BEEN WHAT YOU IMAGINED 4966 03:10:55,360 --> 03:11:03,960 AT ALL BUT THE IDEA IS THAT YOU 4967 03:11:03,960 --> 03:11:07,080 WILL THEN PUBLISH OR DISPLAY IN 4968 03:11:07,080 --> 03:11:08,640 VIDEO, HOWEVER IT'S SEEN BY THE 4969 03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:12,680 WORD, BUT THAT'S WHAT WILL 4970 03:11:12,680 --> 03:11:13,000 HAPPEN. 4971 03:11:13,000 --> 03:11:19,760 IN SOME WAYS THERE ARE MANY 4972 03:11:19,760 --> 03:11:20,080 SIMILARITIES. 4973 03:11:20,080 --> 03:11:22,880 WHAT I DO WHEN I START TO REPORT 4974 03:11:22,880 --> 03:11:24,960 A STORY OR IDEA, I GO TO THE 4975 03:11:24,960 --> 03:11:26,760 NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE, 4976 03:11:26,760 --> 03:11:28,120 SPECIFICALLY PubMed. 4977 03:11:28,120 --> 03:11:32,520 I START SEARCHING THE SCIENTIFIC 4978 03:11:32,520 --> 03:11:36,120 LITERATURE. 4979 03:11:36,120 --> 03:11:37,760 IT'S A WONDERFUL, OF WAY TO GET 4980 03:11:37,760 --> 03:11:40,680 A SENSE OF WHAT HAS BEEN 4981 03:11:40,680 --> 03:11:42,000 PUBLISHED, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE 4982 03:11:42,000 --> 03:11:44,360 HAVE LOOKED AT THOSE KINDS OF 4983 03:11:44,360 --> 03:11:46,400 STUDIES, AND TO GET AN IDEA OF 4984 03:11:46,400 --> 03:11:50,680 THE LITERATURE AND THEN IT ALSO 4985 03:11:50,680 --> 03:11:51,880 GIVES ME NEW SOURCES TO TAP. 4986 03:11:51,880 --> 03:11:58,560 I HAVE A BIG DATABASE OF 4987 03:11:58,560 --> 03:11:59,160 SCIENTISTS I'VE KNOWN THROUGH 4988 03:11:59,160 --> 03:12:01,040 THE YEARS BUT THERE ARE NO ONES, 4989 03:12:01,040 --> 03:12:07,200 IT GIVES ME NEW EXPERTS TO TRY 4990 03:12:07,200 --> 03:12:09,200 TO MEET. 4991 03:12:09,200 --> 03:12:09,680 SORRY, OKAY. 4992 03:12:09,680 --> 03:12:14,280 SO THEN I ALSO LOOK FOR -- 4993 03:12:14,280 --> 03:12:16,000 CHECKED CREDIBLE AND INDEPENDENT 4994 03:12:16,000 --> 03:12:20,000 SOURCES, AND AMONG THOSE ARE 4995 03:12:20,000 --> 03:12:21,440 OBVIOUSLY THE FDA, AND THIS IS 4996 03:12:21,440 --> 03:12:25,200 THE DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS PAGE FOR 4997 03:12:25,200 --> 03:12:26,040 THE FDA. 4998 03:12:26,040 --> 03:12:28,640 I'M A BIG USER OF THE OFFICE OF 4999 03:12:28,640 --> 03:12:30,400 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS AT NIH WHICH 5000 03:12:30,400 --> 03:12:31,200 OBVIOUSLY IS SPONSORING THIS 5001 03:12:31,200 --> 03:12:31,520 CONFERENCE. 5002 03:12:31,520 --> 03:12:33,360 THEY ARE NOT PAYING ME TO SAY 5003 03:12:33,360 --> 03:12:33,680 THAT. 5004 03:12:33,680 --> 03:12:35,720 I JUST LIKE WHAT THEY DO AND HOW 5005 03:12:35,720 --> 03:12:37,400 THEY LOOK AT IT. 5006 03:12:37,400 --> 03:12:40,960 AND THEN I GO TO THE NATIONAL 5007 03:12:40,960 --> 03:12:42,240 ACADEMIES OF SCIENCE, 5008 03:12:42,240 --> 03:12:43,360 ENGINEERING, AND MEDICINE WHICH 5009 03:12:43,360 --> 03:12:48,440 AS MANY OF YOU KNOW ESTABLISHES 5010 03:12:48,440 --> 03:12:50,200 THE DIETARY REFERENCE INTAKES 5011 03:12:50,200 --> 03:12:54,560 AND THINGS IMPORTANT IN MEDICINE 5012 03:12:54,560 --> 03:12:55,640 AND NUTRITION, FOOD, WHERE I 5013 03:12:55,640 --> 03:13:02,640 LOOK FOR NEW SOURCES AND NEW 5014 03:13:02,640 --> 03:13:03,560 REPORTS, NEW INFORMATION. 5015 03:13:03,560 --> 03:13:06,400 I EXPAND FURTHER GOING TO PLACES 5016 03:13:06,400 --> 03:13:09,600 LIKE THE FEDERAL TRADE 5017 03:13:09,600 --> 03:13:13,400 COMMISSION, AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR 5018 03:13:13,400 --> 03:13:16,480 NUTRITION, LINUS PAULING 5019 03:13:16,480 --> 03:13:19,920 INSTITUTE, U.S. PHARMACOPEIA AND 5020 03:13:19,920 --> 03:13:21,440 USE CONSUMERLAB AND TOD DOESN'T 5021 03:13:21,440 --> 03:13:23,520 PAY ME TO SAY THIS, I SUBSCRIBE 5022 03:13:23,520 --> 03:13:24,880 ON MY OWN, BUT I'VE BEEN A FAN 5023 03:13:24,880 --> 03:13:27,760 OF THIS ORGANIZATION SINCE IT 5024 03:13:27,760 --> 03:13:31,760 BEGAN AROUND -- I GUESS NOW 22 5025 03:13:31,760 --> 03:13:33,000 YEARS AGO OR SO. 5026 03:13:33,000 --> 03:13:39,480 I THINK THEY DO A GOOD JOB AND 5027 03:13:39,480 --> 03:13:40,520 A PLACE I CROSS-REFERENCE. 5028 03:13:40,520 --> 03:13:42,320 AS I TALK TO EXPERTS AND DO 5029 03:13:42,320 --> 03:13:43,840 INTERVIEWS I KNOW I'VE COMPLETED 5030 03:13:43,840 --> 03:13:46,000 THE CIRCLE WHEN I ASK THE PEOPLE 5031 03:13:46,000 --> 03:13:48,760 THAT I'M INTERVIEWING WHO ELSE 5032 03:13:48,760 --> 03:13:51,240 SHOULD I TALK TO, WHAT ELSE 5033 03:13:51,240 --> 03:13:53,800 SHOULD I KNOW AND READ, AND WHEN 5034 03:13:53,800 --> 03:13:56,840 I HEAR THEY OFFER THE PEOPLE OR 5035 03:13:56,840 --> 03:14:00,160 PLACES OR PAPERS OR WHATEVER 5036 03:14:00,160 --> 03:14:02,640 THAT I'VE ALREADY TAPPED, THE 5037 03:14:02,640 --> 03:14:03,840 TRADE ASSOCIATIONS, INCLUDING 5038 03:14:03,840 --> 03:14:04,720 COUNCIL FOR RESPONSIBLE 5039 03:14:04,720 --> 03:14:08,880 NUTRITION, ET CETERA, THEN I 5040 03:14:08,880 --> 03:14:10,480 KNOW I'VE COMPLETED THE CIRCLE 5041 03:14:10,480 --> 03:14:11,840 AND PROBABLY HAVE TAKEN AS MUCH 5042 03:14:11,840 --> 03:14:13,880 OF THE LANDSCAPE AS I CAN, AND 5043 03:14:13,880 --> 03:14:18,920 THEN IT'S ON TO WRITING. 5044 03:14:18,920 --> 03:14:20,320 A BRIEFCASE STUDY HOW THIS CAN 5045 03:14:20,320 --> 03:14:20,640 WORK. 5046 03:14:20,640 --> 03:14:23,800 I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAS 5047 03:14:23,800 --> 03:14:26,560 KNEE PROBLEMS AND I DISCOVERED 5048 03:14:26,560 --> 03:14:28,280 THIS GUY RICHARD BEDARD, 5049 03:14:28,280 --> 03:14:30,520 BLOOMBERG EDITOR, BLEW OUT HIS 5050 03:14:30,520 --> 03:14:32,840 KNEES ON HONG KONG ON MOUNTAIN 5051 03:14:32,840 --> 03:14:35,080 BIKE, LEADING ME TO DOUG KELSEY, 5052 03:14:35,080 --> 03:14:38,000 PHYSICAL THERAPIST IN AUSTIN. 5053 03:14:38,000 --> 03:14:39,840 AND HAS DEVELOPED IN THIS -- - 5054 03:14:39,840 --> 03:14:44,640 THIS IS BASED IN SCIENTIFIC 5055 03:14:44,640 --> 03:14:46,320 FACT, PROMOTES A WAY TO HELP 5056 03:14:46,320 --> 03:14:48,160 ACTUALLY REBUILD CARTILAGE IN 5057 03:14:48,160 --> 03:14:49,320 KNEES, IT'S NOT AS PRISTINE AS 5058 03:14:49,320 --> 03:14:53,920 WHAT WE'RE BORN WITH BUT IT DOES 5059 03:14:53,920 --> 03:14:54,120 HELP. 5060 03:14:54,120 --> 03:14:55,240 HE HAS A LOT OF DIETARY 5061 03:14:55,240 --> 03:14:56,640 SUPPLEMENTS THAT HE RECOMMENDS 5062 03:14:56,640 --> 03:15:03,680 IN THIS BOOK, SO I LOOKED AT IT 5063 03:15:03,680 --> 03:15:05,120 VERY SKEPTICICALLY BECAUSE I 5064 03:15:05,120 --> 03:15:07,640 WANTED TO KNOW SCIENCE BEHIND 5065 03:15:07,640 --> 03:15:08,040 IT. 5066 03:15:08,040 --> 03:15:10,440 I MADE SURE HE HAD NO FINANCIAL 5067 03:15:10,440 --> 03:15:11,560 INTEREST IN THE DIETARY 5068 03:15:11,560 --> 03:15:12,760 SUPPLEMENTS THAT HE WAS 5069 03:15:12,760 --> 03:15:17,960 ADVOCATING AND HE CERTAINLY 5070 03:15:17,960 --> 03:15:18,640 DIDN'T. 5071 03:15:18,640 --> 03:15:19,280 NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN 5072 03:15:19,280 --> 03:15:20,160 EXERCISE EQUIPMENT HE 5073 03:15:20,160 --> 03:15:21,160 RECOMMENDED. 5074 03:15:21,160 --> 03:15:22,560 HE HAS A VARIABLE TRAINER HE 5075 03:15:22,560 --> 03:15:24,240 RECOMMENDS, AGAIN HE HAS NO 5076 03:15:24,240 --> 03:15:27,400 FINANCIAL INTEREST IN BUT ALLOWS 5077 03:15:27,400 --> 03:15:28,960 YOU TO STRESS YOUR KNEES AT 5078 03:15:28,960 --> 03:15:31,320 DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT WILL BE 5079 03:15:31,320 --> 03:15:36,520 APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR INJURY OR 5080 03:15:36,520 --> 03:15:38,400 PROBLEM IS. 5081 03:15:38,400 --> 03:15:39,320 FOR EACH SECTION, PARTICULARLY 5082 03:15:39,320 --> 03:15:42,440 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, I EXAMINED 5083 03:15:42,440 --> 03:15:45,040 THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE, 5084 03:15:45,040 --> 03:15:46,640 CHECKED ODS DATABASE, 5085 03:15:46,640 --> 03:15:48,120 CROSS-REFERENCED ALL OF THAT 5086 03:15:48,120 --> 03:15:49,320 WITH CONSUMERLAB, IT WAS ALL 5087 03:15:49,320 --> 03:15:52,400 VERY MUCH ON CAR GET, ONE OR TWO 5088 03:15:52,400 --> 03:15:53,480 THINGS I WASN'T COMPLETELY 5089 03:15:53,480 --> 03:15:56,800 CONVINCED BUT FOR THE MOST PART 5090 03:15:56,800 --> 03:15:59,280 THAT TRUST BUT VERIFY APPROACH 5091 03:15:59,280 --> 03:16:02,360 THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGH THE 5092 03:16:02,360 --> 03:16:02,840 YEARS. 5093 03:16:02,840 --> 03:16:04,040 AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A 5094 03:16:04,040 --> 03:16:08,120 SENSE OF WHAT I LOOK FOR WHEN 5095 03:16:08,120 --> 03:16:10,120 I'M COVERING A TOPIC OR TRYING 5096 03:16:10,120 --> 03:16:12,560 TO WRITE A STORY THAT I HOPE 5097 03:16:12,560 --> 03:16:17,320 WILL GIVE AS MUCH TRUTH AS IS 5098 03:16:17,320 --> 03:16:17,840 POSSIBLE. 5099 03:16:17,840 --> 03:16:19,000 WHAT CAN YOU DO? 5100 03:16:19,000 --> 03:16:22,520 THIS IS WHERE I THINK IT'S 5101 03:16:22,520 --> 03:16:23,600 REALLY IMPORTANT FOR SCIENTISTS 5102 03:16:23,600 --> 03:16:25,160 AND MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS TO BE 5103 03:16:25,160 --> 03:16:28,760 PART OF THE CONVERSATION, 5104 03:16:28,760 --> 03:16:29,400 ESPECIALLY ONLINE. 5105 03:16:29,400 --> 03:16:34,880 WE HAVE SO MANY -- SO MUCH BAD 5106 03:16:34,880 --> 03:16:39,000 INFORMATION ONLINE IT'S CRITICAL 5107 03:16:39,000 --> 03:16:41,160 FOR THOSE EXPERIENCED AND HAVE 5108 03:16:41,160 --> 03:16:43,400 EXPERTISE TO SHARE AND ARE WELL 5109 03:16:43,400 --> 03:16:44,480 EDUCATED TO SHARE THAT 5110 03:16:44,480 --> 03:16:47,280 INFORMATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 5111 03:16:47,280 --> 03:16:49,440 BECAUSE OTHERWISE IF YOU DON'T 5112 03:16:49,440 --> 03:16:53,040 CARE IT, THERE'S A VACUUM AND IT 5113 03:16:53,040 --> 03:16:55,040 ALLOWS FOR OTHER PEOPLE WHO 5114 03:16:55,040 --> 03:16:57,880 DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS HAVE 5115 03:16:57,880 --> 03:16:59,040 THIS GOOD INFORMATION, GOOD 5116 03:16:59,040 --> 03:17:00,400 QUALITY INFORMATION, TO COME TO 5117 03:17:00,400 --> 03:17:06,720 THE TABLE AND SHARE THEIR PER 5118 03:17:06,720 --> 03:17:08,160 -- EXPERTISE WHICH MAY NOT BE 5119 03:17:08,160 --> 03:17:08,760 ACCURATE. 5120 03:17:08,760 --> 03:17:10,200 I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE 5121 03:17:10,200 --> 03:17:11,480 CONVERSATION, OUT OF BOSTON, 5122 03:17:11,480 --> 03:17:11,960 IT'S A NON-PROFIT. 5123 03:17:11,960 --> 03:17:18,600 YOU HAVE TO BE APPROVED TO BE 5124 03:17:18,600 --> 03:17:19,960 PART OF IT. 5125 03:17:19,960 --> 03:17:22,000 IF YOU'RE AN ACADEMIC, YOU CAN 5126 03:17:22,000 --> 03:17:24,440 GET APPROVED, PITCH STORIES, GET 5127 03:17:24,440 --> 03:17:27,080 PICKED UP BY NEWSPAPERS ALL OVER 5128 03:17:27,080 --> 03:17:29,920 THE WORLD, CIRCULATION OF 2 TO 3 5129 03:17:29,920 --> 03:17:30,960 MILLION, YOU DON'T GET PAID BUT 5130 03:17:30,960 --> 03:17:37,040 IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HAVE YOUR 5131 03:17:37,040 --> 03:17:38,720 INFORMATION AND EXPERTISE 5132 03:17:38,720 --> 03:17:39,160 SPREAD. 5133 03:17:39,160 --> 03:17:42,160 SAME THING TRUE OF MEDIUM, IT'S 5134 03:17:42,160 --> 03:17:45,680 A PLACE TO WRITE ARTICLES AND 5135 03:17:45,680 --> 03:17:47,800 GET SOME REALLY QUALITY 5136 03:17:47,800 --> 03:17:48,440 INFORMATION OUT. 5137 03:17:48,440 --> 03:17:53,400 I REALIZE THIS IS NOT AN EASY 5138 03:17:53,400 --> 03:17:55,960 THING TO DO. 5139 03:17:55,960 --> 03:18:01,320 I'M A MEMBER OF NATIONAL 5140 03:18:01,320 --> 03:18:04,200 ASSOCIATION OF SCIENCE WRITERS. 5141 03:18:04,200 --> 03:18:05,720 HALF REPORTED LOSING INTEREST IN 5142 03:18:05,720 --> 03:18:07,080 COMMUNICATING WITH THE MEDIA 5143 03:18:07,080 --> 03:18:11,720 ABOUT SCIENCE, AND I THINK 5144 03:18:11,720 --> 03:18:14,120 THAT'S A REAL SHAME. 5145 03:18:14,120 --> 03:18:17,280 THE REASON YOU COULD PROBABLY 5146 03:18:17,280 --> 03:18:17,520 IMAGINE. 5147 03:18:17,520 --> 03:18:20,320 THEY GET INUNDATED SOMETIMES 5148 03:18:20,320 --> 03:18:22,000 WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT NICE TO 5149 03:18:22,000 --> 03:18:25,000 THEM ONLINE SO THAT'S A PROBLEM. 5150 03:18:25,000 --> 03:18:26,520 AND SO SOME SCIENTISTS DON'T 5151 03:18:26,520 --> 03:18:30,600 WANT TO RAISE THEIR HEAD BUT 5152 03:18:30,600 --> 03:18:31,880 IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY IN 5153 03:18:31,880 --> 03:18:33,120 THE CONVERSATION. 5154 03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:38,560 THE REASON IS THAT THIS IS A PEW 5155 03:18:38,560 --> 03:18:39,960 FOUNDATION -- THE PEW FOUNDATION 5156 03:18:39,960 --> 03:18:41,720 DOES A WONDERFUL SURVEY OF 5157 03:18:41,720 --> 03:18:45,440 MEDIA, PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSIDERED 5158 03:18:45,440 --> 03:18:48,840 AS TRUSTED SPOKESPEOPLE, AND 5159 03:18:48,840 --> 03:18:50,600 WHAT PUBLIC CONFIDENCE THERE IS 5160 03:18:50,600 --> 03:18:53,120 IN VARIOUS GROUPS LIKE THE 5161 03:18:53,120 --> 03:18:54,760 MILITARY, POLICE OFFICERS, 5162 03:18:54,760 --> 03:18:55,800 PUBLIC SCHOOL PRINCIPALS, YOU 5163 03:18:55,800 --> 03:18:57,320 GET THE IDEA. 5164 03:18:57,320 --> 03:18:59,280 YOU WILL SEE MEDICAL SCIENTISTS 5165 03:18:59,280 --> 03:19:02,600 AND SCIENTISTS WHO HAVE BEEN 5166 03:19:02,600 --> 03:19:04,640 AMONG THE MOST TRUSTED PEOPLE 5167 03:19:04,640 --> 03:19:06,320 THAT THE PUBLIC TURNS TO, 5168 03:19:06,320 --> 03:19:08,280 EXPERTS THE PUBLIC TURNS TO, YOU 5169 03:19:08,280 --> 03:19:11,640 SEE THAT THERE IS A SHARP 5170 03:19:11,640 --> 03:19:14,600 DECLINE IN HOW MUCH THE PUBLIC 5171 03:19:14,600 --> 03:19:16,120 TRUSTS SCIENTISTS AND WE'VE SEEN 5172 03:19:16,120 --> 03:19:19,640 THIS PLAY OUT DURING THE COVID 5173 03:19:19,640 --> 03:19:19,920 PANDEMIC. 5174 03:19:19,920 --> 03:19:21,080 WHICH IS REALLY UNFORTUNATE. 5175 03:19:21,080 --> 03:19:25,000 UNLESS WE GET IN THERE AND HAVE 5176 03:19:25,000 --> 03:19:26,440 MORE SCIENTISTS TALKING AND 5177 03:19:26,440 --> 03:19:29,960 EXPLAINING, WE'RE GOING TO -- WE 5178 03:19:29,960 --> 03:19:31,680 RUN THE RISK OF SEEING THIS 5179 03:19:31,680 --> 03:19:35,200 DECLINE CONTINUE WHICH WOULD BE 5180 03:19:35,200 --> 03:19:35,480 TERRIBLE. 5181 03:19:35,480 --> 03:19:36,960 I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE 5182 03:19:36,960 --> 03:19:38,280 INTERESTING TO KNOW WHO SOME OF 5183 03:19:38,280 --> 03:19:40,440 THE TOP 50 SCIENCE STARS OF 5184 03:19:40,440 --> 03:19:42,600 TWITTER ARE, FROM SCIENCE 5185 03:19:42,600 --> 03:19:43,080 MAGAZINE. 5186 03:19:43,080 --> 03:19:45,120 I LAUGHED, I'M NOT REALLY 5187 03:19:45,120 --> 03:19:46,480 FAMILIAR WITH THE KARDASHIAN 5188 03:19:46,480 --> 03:19:48,760 INDEX BUT I KNOW TO WHOM THAT 5189 03:19:48,760 --> 03:19:50,600 REFERS, THAT SCIENCE THEN 5190 03:19:50,600 --> 03:19:52,480 COMPILED A LIST OF THE MOST 5191 03:19:52,480 --> 03:19:54,240 FOLLOWED SCIENTISTS ON THE 5192 03:19:54,240 --> 03:19:56,040 SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM OF 5193 03:19:56,040 --> 03:20:05,440 TWITTER, AND YOU CAN SEE NEIL 5194 03:20:05,440 --> 03:20:12,760 DEGRASSE TYSON, 2.4 MILLION, 5195 03:20:12,760 --> 03:20:15,120 RICHARD DAWKINS A MILLION 5196 03:20:15,120 --> 03:20:17,320 FOLLOWERS, POSSIBLE FOR GOOD 5197 03:20:17,320 --> 03:20:21,160 SCIENTISTS WITH STRONG 5198 03:20:21,160 --> 03:20:23,280 FOLLOWINGS, WE NEED THESE VOICES 5199 03:20:23,280 --> 03:20:24,600 OF REASON AND SCIENCE OUT THERE 5200 03:20:24,600 --> 03:20:26,560 AND I HOPE MAYBE YOU WOULD 5201 03:20:26,560 --> 03:20:29,800 CONSIDER DOING THAT AS WELL. 5202 03:20:29,800 --> 03:20:31,560 IF YOU DO, I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH A 5203 03:20:31,560 --> 03:20:33,760 FEW TIPS HOW YOU COULD BUILD 5204 03:20:33,760 --> 03:20:35,000 YOUR OWN FOLLOWING. 5205 03:20:35,000 --> 03:20:36,400 I REALIZE THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE 5206 03:20:36,400 --> 03:20:40,320 A LOT TO DO, TIME IS OF THE -- 5207 03:20:40,320 --> 03:20:42,160 NO ONE HAS A LOT OF EXTRA TIME 5208 03:20:42,160 --> 03:20:44,480 BUT THERE ARE, IF YOU START WITH 5209 03:20:44,480 --> 03:20:46,880 ONE DIGITAL PLATFORM, AND START 5210 03:20:46,880 --> 03:20:48,640 POSTING ON IT, REGULARLY, AND 5211 03:20:48,640 --> 03:20:52,480 LINKED IN IS A WONDERFUL 5212 03:20:52,480 --> 03:20:54,240 PLATFORM IN TERMS OF BEING 5213 03:20:54,240 --> 03:20:55,520 PROFESSIONAL, I SEE A LOT OF 5214 03:20:55,520 --> 03:20:56,640 SCIENTISTS ON IT. 5215 03:20:56,640 --> 03:20:59,720 IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE. 5216 03:20:59,720 --> 03:21:00,920 TWITTER IS ANOTHER ONE, 5217 03:21:00,920 --> 03:21:02,160 INSTAGRAM, AND FOR THOSE WHO 5218 03:21:02,160 --> 03:21:04,600 AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH IT, TIKTOK 5219 03:21:04,600 --> 03:21:11,200 IS REALLY STARTING TO GROW SO IF 5220 03:21:11,200 --> 03:21:12,720 YOU LIKE DOING VIDEO, THAT'S A 5221 03:21:12,720 --> 03:21:16,040 PLACE TO DIP YOUR TOE INTO THE 5222 03:21:16,040 --> 03:21:17,040 DIGITAL WORLD. 5223 03:21:17,040 --> 03:21:18,480 IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT TIME, I 5224 03:21:18,480 --> 03:21:21,480 WANT TO OFFER SOME TOOLS THAT 5225 03:21:21,480 --> 03:21:32,000 YOU CAN HELP DO SPECIAL POSTING. 5226 03:21:34,920 --> 03:21:37,160 HOOT SUITE, SPRINKLER, LOOMLY, 5227 03:21:37,160 --> 03:21:39,760 TWEETBOT ARE OTHER OPTIONS, A 5228 03:21:39,760 --> 03:21:41,840 MONTHLY FEE WITH FREE TRIALS, 5229 03:21:41,840 --> 03:21:43,200 SET UP WHATEVER YOU WANT TO 5230 03:21:43,200 --> 03:21:45,320 WRITE AND HAVE IT DONE AT A 5231 03:21:45,320 --> 03:21:46,400 PARTICULAR TIME AND THEN 5232 03:21:46,400 --> 03:21:48,280 SCHEDULED TO GO OUT SO THAT YOU 5233 03:21:48,280 --> 03:21:49,920 DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF 5234 03:21:49,920 --> 03:21:51,240 TIME FIGURING OUT WHEN YOU'RE 5235 03:21:51,240 --> 03:21:54,040 GOING TO POST, ET CETERA. 5236 03:21:54,040 --> 03:21:56,080 AND THEN IT'S IMPORTANT TO POST 5237 03:21:56,080 --> 03:21:56,840 CONSISTENTLY, WHETHER OR NOT 5238 03:21:56,840 --> 03:21:58,800 THAT'S ONCE A WEEK OR ONCE A DAY 5239 03:21:58,800 --> 03:22:00,920 OR ONCE A MONTH, WHATEVER YOU 5240 03:22:00,920 --> 03:22:04,200 WANT TO DO, AND TO LIKE AND 5241 03:22:04,200 --> 03:22:05,480 CREDIT OTHERS, BUT I URGE YOU TO 5242 03:22:05,480 --> 03:22:08,880 DO SO CAUTIOUSLY SINCE WE HAVE 5243 03:22:08,880 --> 03:22:10,760 FOUND SOMETIMES THAT PEOPLE HAVE 5244 03:22:10,760 --> 03:22:12,680 AGENDAS OR FOLLOWERS OR THINGS 5245 03:22:12,680 --> 03:22:14,240 THAT YOU JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL 5246 03:22:14,240 --> 03:22:16,920 WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 5247 03:22:16,920 --> 03:22:19,840 AND THEN STICK WITH FACTS, 5248 03:22:19,840 --> 03:22:22,360 RATHER THAN OPINION, WHEN IN THE 5249 03:22:22,360 --> 03:22:25,640 EARLY DAYS OF MY JOURNALISM 5250 03:22:25,640 --> 03:22:26,720 CAREER JOURNALISTS WERE MUCH 5251 03:22:26,720 --> 03:22:28,080 MORE KIND OF LIMITED IN WHAT YOU 5252 03:22:28,080 --> 03:22:29,880 COULD SAY AND HOW COULD YOU DO 5253 03:22:29,880 --> 03:22:33,280 THINGS AND I THINK STICKING WITH 5254 03:22:33,280 --> 03:22:36,360 FACTS RATHER THAN OFFERING 5255 03:22:36,360 --> 03:22:37,560 OPINIONS ALWAYS KEPT PEOPLE IN A 5256 03:22:37,560 --> 03:22:39,480 GOOD PLACE. 5257 03:22:39,480 --> 03:22:40,680 OBVIOUSLY BE AUTHENTIC TO YOUR 5258 03:22:40,680 --> 03:22:42,160 OWN INTERESTS BECAUSE THAT'S 5259 03:22:42,160 --> 03:22:44,760 WHAT COMES THROUGH AND I THINK 5260 03:22:44,760 --> 03:22:46,520 PEOPLE ARE QUICK TO FIND PEOPLE 5261 03:22:46,520 --> 03:22:47,840 WHO ARE NOT AUTHENTIC. 5262 03:22:47,840 --> 03:22:49,320 IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 5263 03:22:49,320 --> 03:22:51,040 SOMETHING THAT MEANS A LOT TO 5264 03:22:51,040 --> 03:22:52,520 YOU THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND THEN 5265 03:22:52,520 --> 03:22:53,840 LASTLY BE KIND WHICH CLEARLY WE 5266 03:22:53,840 --> 03:22:56,840 DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT 5267 03:22:56,840 --> 03:22:57,040 LATELY. 5268 03:22:57,040 --> 03:22:59,520 SO, I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE YOU 5269 03:22:59,520 --> 03:23:01,120 WITH THIS THANK YOU, AND WHERE 5270 03:23:01,120 --> 03:23:02,920 YOU CAN FIND ME AND I AM 5271 03:23:02,920 --> 03:23:05,080 STARTING A NEW FREE WEEKLY 5272 03:23:05,080 --> 03:23:05,720 E-MAIL NEWSLETTER ABOUT 5273 03:23:05,720 --> 03:23:06,000 NUTRITION. 5274 03:23:06,000 --> 03:23:08,520 IF YOU WANT TO BE ADDED TO THE 5275 03:23:08,520 --> 03:23:09,560 FUTURE SUBSCRIPTION LIST HERE IS 5276 03:23:09,560 --> 03:23:13,080 THE PLACE TO E-MAIL ME. 5277 03:23:13,080 --> 03:23:14,560 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE 5278 03:23:14,560 --> 03:23:17,560 OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH ALL OF 5279 03:23:17,560 --> 03:23:20,520 YOU TODAY AND I'LL BE STICKING 5280 03:23:20,520 --> 03:23:21,240 AROUND. 5281 03:23:21,240 --> 03:23:23,160 WITH THAT, I WILL -- GUIDE ME 5282 03:23:23,160 --> 03:23:24,520 THROUGH, I'LL STOP SHARING MY 5283 03:23:24,520 --> 03:23:25,920 SCREEN. 5284 03:23:25,920 --> 03:23:30,400 OF 5285 03:23:30,400 --> 03:23:30,840 >> FANTASTIC. 5286 03:23:30,840 --> 03:23:31,560 THANK YOU, SALLY. 5287 03:23:31,560 --> 03:23:35,880 WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO A PANEL 5288 03:23:35,880 --> 03:23:44,800 DISCUSSION THAT INCLUDES SALLY 5289 03:23:44,800 --> 03:23:45,680 SQUIRES, JENSEN JOSE AND TOD 5290 03:23:45,680 --> 03:23:48,800 COOPERMAN WITH A BREAK AND A 5291 03:23:48,800 --> 03:23:49,960 PANELIST OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE 5292 03:23:49,960 --> 03:23:51,080 WITH ONE ANOTHER AND WITH 5293 03:23:51,080 --> 03:23:55,560 QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT HAVE COME 5294 03:23:55,560 --> 03:23:56,600 UP. 5295 03:23:56,600 --> 03:23:57,680 I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY 5296 03:23:57,680 --> 03:23:59,840 TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS 5297 03:23:59,840 --> 03:24:01,200 THAT HAVE COME IN. 5298 03:24:01,200 --> 03:24:06,920 THE FIRST ONE THAT I SEE IS MOST 5299 03:24:06,920 --> 03:24:08,280 LIKELY FOR TOD, REGARDING 5300 03:24:08,280 --> 03:24:10,720 PRODUCTS YOU TESTED WITH RESULTS 5301 03:24:10,720 --> 03:24:12,280 SHOWING OUT OF SPEC WITH LABEL 5302 03:24:12,280 --> 03:24:13,840 CLAIMS, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OF 5303 03:24:13,840 --> 03:24:16,640 THOSE RESULTS THAT YOU THINK IS 5304 03:24:16,640 --> 03:24:19,000 DUE TO MATRIX INTERFERENCE 5305 03:24:19,000 --> 03:24:24,320 AND/OR NOT USING APPLICABLE TEST 5306 03:24:24,320 --> 03:24:24,560 METHODS? 5307 03:24:24,560 --> 03:24:27,160 5308 03:24:27,160 --> 03:24:29,320 >> THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS. 5309 03:24:29,320 --> 03:24:32,800 IF WE THINK THERE'S MATRIX 5310 03:24:32,800 --> 03:24:35,840 INTERFERENCE WE WOULDN'T FAIL ON 5311 03:24:35,840 --> 03:24:37,040 THAT BASIS BUT WOULD INDICATE ON 5312 03:24:37,040 --> 03:24:38,560 THE DECISION. 5313 03:24:38,560 --> 03:24:40,880 THAT WOULD HAPPEN FOR EXAMPLE 5314 03:24:40,880 --> 03:24:47,320 WITH ORANGE, YOU KNOW, CITRUS 5315 03:24:47,320 --> 03:24:49,720 AND FISH OIL INGREDIENTS YOU 5316 03:24:49,720 --> 03:24:52,400 CAN'T TEST FOR RANCIDITY 5317 03:24:52,400 --> 03:24:52,880 PROPERTIES. 5318 03:24:52,880 --> 03:24:55,320 IF WE SEE SOME WEIRD RESULTS OR 5319 03:24:55,320 --> 03:24:56,360 FIND SOMETHING DOESN'T PASS, WE 5320 03:24:56,360 --> 03:24:58,400 MUST SEND IT TO A SECOND 5321 03:24:58,400 --> 03:24:59,200 LABORATORY. 5322 03:24:59,200 --> 03:25:01,120 AND THIS IS BLINDED TO OF TO THE 5323 03:25:01,120 --> 03:25:01,560 LABORATORIES. 5324 03:25:01,560 --> 03:25:03,000 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE FOUND 5325 03:25:03,000 --> 03:25:04,080 BEFORE AND DON'T KNOW THE NAME 5326 03:25:04,080 --> 03:25:04,920 OF THE PRODUCT. 5327 03:25:04,920 --> 03:25:08,360 WE WORK LARD TO MAKE SURE WHEN 5328 03:25:08,360 --> 03:25:10,280 WE PUBLISH A PROBLEM, WE FIND A 5329 03:25:10,280 --> 03:25:11,120 PROBLEM, WE'RE PRETTY SURE ABOUT 5330 03:25:11,120 --> 03:25:12,560 IT AND A COMPANY CAN ASK FOR 5331 03:25:12,560 --> 03:25:13,920 RESULTS FROM US AND WE'LL GIVE 5332 03:25:13,920 --> 03:25:17,240 IT TO THEM FOR FREE. 5333 03:25:17,240 --> 03:25:19,360 AND WE KEEP A RESERVE SAMPLE 5334 03:25:19,360 --> 03:25:21,720 UNOPENED, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO 5335 03:25:21,720 --> 03:25:24,320 SEND TO ANOTHER LABORATORY OF 5336 03:25:24,320 --> 03:25:25,800 MUTUAL AGREEMENT, IF THE COMPANY 5337 03:25:25,800 --> 03:25:27,560 IS WILLING TO PUBLISH THE 5338 03:25:27,560 --> 03:25:32,360 RESULTS OF THAT TEST. 5339 03:25:32,360 --> 03:25:33,120 MOST COMPANIES ARE NOT. 5340 03:25:33,120 --> 03:25:34,680 >> OF COURSE IF ANYBODY ELSE 5341 03:25:34,680 --> 03:25:36,200 WANTS TO JUMP IN, EVEN THOUGH 5342 03:25:36,200 --> 03:25:38,080 I'M STRIKE TO DIRECT THE 5343 03:25:38,080 --> 03:25:40,680 QUESTIONS, WHERE I THINK THEY 5344 03:25:40,680 --> 03:25:45,480 NEED TO GO, DO JUMP IN, SALLY OR 5345 03:25:45,480 --> 03:25:46,040 JENSEN. 5346 03:25:46,040 --> 03:25:49,520 A QUESTION THAT COMES UP IN 5347 03:25:49,520 --> 03:25:53,200 MAYBE A DIFFERENT FORMAT, A 5348 03:25:53,200 --> 03:25:54,600 COUPLE PLACES. 5349 03:25:54,600 --> 03:25:59,080 PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY GLAD THE 5350 03:25:59,080 --> 03:25:59,720 CONSUMERLAB DOES THIS BUT 5351 03:25:59,720 --> 03:26:00,760 THERE'S SOME LIMITATIONS THAT 5352 03:26:00,760 --> 03:26:01,120 ARE POSSIBLE. 5353 03:26:01,120 --> 03:26:08,120 PRODUCTS THAT ARE NOT CHOSEN FOR 5354 03:26:08,120 --> 03:26:09,000 TESTING. 5355 03:26:09,000 --> 03:26:10,600 DO GET PAID BY SOME SUPPLEMENT 5356 03:26:10,600 --> 03:26:11,040 COMPANIES? 5357 03:26:11,040 --> 03:26:14,240 THIS WAS IN THE CONTEXT OF 5358 03:26:14,240 --> 03:26:16,320 SOMEBODY ASKING IS THERE A 5359 03:26:16,320 --> 03:26:18,440 SOURCE OF BIAS. 5360 03:26:18,440 --> 03:26:19,440 >> RIGHT. 5361 03:26:19,440 --> 03:26:19,640 SURE. 5362 03:26:19,640 --> 03:26:23,800 I RESPONDED WITH A LINK AS WELL. 5363 03:26:23,800 --> 03:26:34,240 BUT 85% OF REVENUE IS FROM 5364 03:26:34,240 --> 03:26:38,120 MEMBERSHIP FROM 95,000 5365 03:26:38,120 --> 03:26:40,440 SUBSCRIBERS, 15 BY COMPANIES TWO 5366 03:26:40,440 --> 03:26:42,120 SUBSCRIBE IN THE PROGRAM, 5367 03:26:42,120 --> 03:26:43,320 THERE'S NO MEMBERSHIP FOR A 5368 03:26:43,320 --> 03:26:46,000 COMPANY BUT WHEN WE TEST 5369 03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:47,440 PRODUCTS ANY COMPANY IS WELCOME 5370 03:26:47,440 --> 03:26:49,240 TO HAVE US TEST THEIR PRODUCT AS 5371 03:26:49,240 --> 03:26:49,640 WELL. 5372 03:26:49,640 --> 03:26:52,040 WE DO IT BECAUSE IT HELPED US 5373 03:26:52,040 --> 03:26:53,080 HOPEFULLY FIND MORE GOOD 5374 03:26:53,080 --> 03:26:55,520 PRODUCTS THAT WE CAN SHOW 5375 03:26:55,520 --> 03:26:55,880 CONSUMERS. 5376 03:26:55,880 --> 03:26:58,760 WE HAVE TO BUY THOSE PRODUCTS ON 5377 03:26:58,760 --> 03:27:00,880 THE MARKET. 5378 03:27:00,880 --> 03:27:02,120 A COMPANY CAN'T SEND IT TO US. 5379 03:27:02,120 --> 03:27:07,520 THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER OUR 5380 03:27:07,520 --> 03:27:08,000 TESTING. 5381 03:27:08,000 --> 03:27:10,600 THEY KNOW OUR METHODS, IT'S ON 5382 03:27:10,600 --> 03:27:13,360 THE WEBSITE. 5383 03:27:13,360 --> 03:27:15,400 IF IT PASSES WE WILL ALLOW THEM 5384 03:27:15,400 --> 03:27:16,400 TO USE OUR SEAL, IT WILL BE IN 5385 03:27:16,400 --> 03:27:17,600 THE REPORT. 5386 03:27:17,600 --> 03:27:19,600 IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THAT'S THEIR 5387 03:27:19,600 --> 03:27:20,920 INFORMATION, HOPEFULLY THEY WILL 5388 03:27:20,920 --> 03:27:23,080 GO BACK AND FIX SOMETHING, OFTEN 5389 03:27:23,080 --> 03:27:26,840 THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF THE 5390 03:27:26,840 --> 03:27:27,960 PROBLEMS THAT WE IDENTIFY. 5391 03:27:27,960 --> 03:27:30,520 >> THANK YOU. 5392 03:27:30,520 --> 03:27:31,320 THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT 5393 03:27:31,320 --> 03:27:31,920 CAME UP. 5394 03:27:31,920 --> 03:27:34,880 I SEE THAT YOU ANSWERED IT IN 5395 03:27:34,880 --> 03:27:37,520 THE CHAT, TOD, BUT LET'S HAVE 5396 03:27:37,520 --> 03:27:38,920 THIS OUT FOR DISCUSSION. 5397 03:27:38,920 --> 03:27:47,400 IS THE ISSUE REALLY A MATTER 5398 03:27:47,400 --> 03:27:49,800 MATTER OF A FEW BADS ACTORS IF 5399 03:27:49,800 --> 03:27:52,720 ONLY 1 IS 5 IS NOT PASSING, AND 5400 03:27:52,720 --> 03:27:54,040 YOUR ANSWER WAS, I WANT TO BE 5401 03:27:54,040 --> 03:27:56,600 SURE EVERYBODY HEARS IT. 5402 03:27:56,600 --> 03:27:58,160 >> YEAH, THE 1 OUT OF 5 IS 5403 03:27:58,160 --> 03:28:01,760 PROBABLY A BEST CASE SCENARIO, 5404 03:28:01,760 --> 03:28:04,840 FRANKLY, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING 5405 03:28:04,840 --> 03:28:05,600 AT PRODUCT QUALITY. 5406 03:28:05,600 --> 03:28:08,960 AND AS I SAID BEFORE, WE'RE NOT 5407 03:28:08,960 --> 03:28:10,480 LOOKING FOR PROBLEMS. 5408 03:28:10,480 --> 03:28:14,920 SO, THE 20% OF PROBLEMS WE FIND 5409 03:28:14,920 --> 03:28:17,200 IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAD TO GO FAR 5410 03:28:17,200 --> 03:28:18,960 TO FIND PROBLEMS. 5411 03:28:18,960 --> 03:28:24,240 ONE SUPPLEMENT COMPANY, NOW, 5412 03:28:24,240 --> 03:28:28,040 N-O-W, IS TESTING PRODUCTS ON 5413 03:28:28,040 --> 03:28:28,880 AMAZON, INTERESTING, I THINK 5414 03:28:28,880 --> 03:28:32,040 THEY ARE DOING GOOD TESTING 5415 03:28:32,040 --> 03:28:34,280 BECAUSE I GUESS THEIR UP AGAINST 5416 03:28:34,280 --> 03:28:36,480 ALL THESE PRODUCTS OUT THERE, 5417 03:28:36,480 --> 03:28:37,880 THEIR OWN PRODUCTS, VERSUS THESE 5418 03:28:37,880 --> 03:28:40,720 ONES ON AMAZON, THEY ARE FINDING 5419 03:28:40,720 --> 03:28:41,440 TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF PROBLEMS, 5420 03:28:41,440 --> 03:28:43,840 VERY CONSISTENT WITH PROBLEMS 5421 03:28:43,840 --> 03:28:45,560 THAT WE'VE SEEN BUT WE DON'T SEE 5422 03:28:45,560 --> 03:28:47,040 THEM AS OFTEN BECAUSE WE'RE 5423 03:28:47,040 --> 03:28:48,200 TYPICALLY LOOKING AT BRANDS OUR 5424 03:28:48,200 --> 03:28:49,560 MEMBERS ARE USING AND TELLING US 5425 03:28:49,560 --> 03:28:50,040 ABOUT. 5426 03:28:50,040 --> 03:28:53,120 LIKE TEND TO BE THE MORE COMMON 5427 03:28:53,120 --> 03:28:53,440 BRANDS. 5428 03:28:53,440 --> 03:28:56,560 BUT THERE ARE SO MANY BRANDS OUT 5429 03:28:56,560 --> 03:28:58,960 THERE ON AMAZON NOW, THAT HAVE 5430 03:28:58,960 --> 03:29:01,440 NOT BEEN AROUND VERY LONG, 5431 03:29:01,440 --> 03:29:08,600 REALLY FLY BY NIGHT BRANDS, THE 5432 03:29:08,600 --> 03:29:10,280 REAL PROBLEM IS MUCH GREATER 5433 03:29:10,280 --> 03:29:16,000 THAN WE'RE REPORTING 1 OUT OF 5. 5434 03:29:16,000 --> 03:29:16,800 >> SALLY OR JENSEN, ANY 5435 03:29:16,800 --> 03:29:17,480 COMMENTS? 5436 03:29:17,480 --> 03:29:18,920 >> TOD COVERED IT. 5437 03:29:18,920 --> 03:29:20,320 THAT WAS GOOD. 5438 03:29:20,320 --> 03:29:28,360 I HAD NOT -- I HAD FORGOTTEN YOU 5439 03:29:28,360 --> 03:29:29,520 ARE 95,000 PRESCRIBERS, THAT'S 5440 03:29:29,520 --> 03:29:30,040 GREAT. 5441 03:29:30,040 --> 03:29:33,360 >> YOU'RE ONE OF THEM, THANKS. 5442 03:29:33,360 --> 03:29:36,840 >> THERE'S A QUESTION, I'M NOT 5443 03:29:36,840 --> 03:29:39,360 SURE QUITE WHAT THIS QUESTION 5444 03:29:39,360 --> 03:29:40,600 IS. 5445 03:29:40,600 --> 03:29:44,880 CHEMICAL TESTING WOULD EXPAND A 5446 03:29:44,880 --> 03:29:45,480 LOT OF MANUFACTURING COMPANIES. 5447 03:29:45,480 --> 03:29:47,160 I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS 5448 03:29:47,160 --> 03:29:48,560 QUESTION IS. 5449 03:29:48,560 --> 03:29:53,280 MAYBE ONE OF YOU DO. 5450 03:29:53,280 --> 03:29:54,840 IT'S THE VER LASTUESTION. 5451 03:29:54,840 --> 03:29:59,280 >> CHEMICAL TESTING WOULD BE 5452 03:29:59,280 --> 03:30:05,200 EXPANDED A LOT OF MANUFACTURE 5453 03:30:05,200 --> 03:30:07,600 COMPANIES, I'M NOT 100% SURE I 5454 03:30:07,600 --> 03:30:12,040 UNDERSTAND. 5455 03:30:12,040 --> 03:30:15,200 ARE THEY ASKING THAT -- I CAN'T 5456 03:30:15,200 --> 03:30:18,680 TELL IF IT'S A PUBLIC RULE FOR 5457 03:30:18,680 --> 03:30:18,920 RESEARCH. 5458 03:30:18,920 --> 03:30:21,240 I'M NOT REALLY SURE. 5459 03:30:21,240 --> 03:30:23,920 >> YEAH, LET'S LEAVE QUESTION 5460 03:30:23,920 --> 03:30:27,800 OPEN UNTIL THAT PERSON PERHAPS 5461 03:30:27,800 --> 03:30:31,560 COMES BACK WITH CLARIFICATION. 5462 03:30:31,560 --> 03:30:33,560 FOLKS, IT'S 2:45, LET'S TAKE A 5463 03:30:33,560 --> 03:30:34,560 SHORT BREAK. 5464 03:30:34,560 --> 03:30:39,000 WE'LL COME BACK PROMPTLY AT 3:00 5465 03:30:39,000 --> 03:30:41,240 AND THE DISCUSSION WILL INCLUDE 5466 03:30:41,240 --> 03:30:42,800 ALL SIX PANELISTS, LOOK FORWARD 5467 03:30:42,800 --> 03:30:43,240 TO IT. 5468 03:30:43,240 --> 03:30:47,400 TAKE A BIT OF A BREAK. 5469 03:30:47,400 --> 03:30:51,800 LET'S REJOIN WITH SALLY SQUIRES, 5470 03:30:51,800 --> 03:31:00,920 BRIAN WOMMACK, JENSEN JOSE, TOD 5471 03:31:00,920 --> 03:31:02,240 COOPERMAN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS 5472 03:31:02,240 --> 03:31:10,520 FOR YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE 5473 03:31:10,520 --> 03:31:11,880 PANEL? 5474 03:31:11,880 --> 03:31:13,080 >> GOOD QUESTION. 5475 03:31:13,080 --> 03:31:14,760 >> MERLE, I'LL JUMP IN. 5476 03:31:14,760 --> 03:31:18,040 I WOULD ASK HOW EVERYONE IS 5477 03:31:18,040 --> 03:31:18,920 DOING. 5478 03:31:18,920 --> 03:31:20,600 HOPE YOU HAVE PLENTY OF WATER, 5479 03:31:20,600 --> 03:31:28,400 U.S. IS HAVING A HEAT WAVE, 5480 03:31:28,400 --> 03:31:29,800 STAYING HYDRATED IS A CHALLENGE. 5481 03:31:29,800 --> 03:31:32,400 >> YOU MIGHT THINK OF 5482 03:31:32,400 --> 03:31:33,360 OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE AS 5483 03:31:33,360 --> 03:31:34,640 QUESTIONS COME UP. 5484 03:31:34,640 --> 03:31:37,760 ONE QUESTIONS LEFT OVER FROM 5485 03:31:37,760 --> 03:31:40,440 BEFORE, PROBABLY BEST FOR TOD TO 5486 03:31:40,440 --> 03:31:43,320 TRY TO ANSWER THIS AT LEAST TO 5487 03:31:43,320 --> 03:31:44,360 BEGIN WITH. 5488 03:31:44,360 --> 03:31:48,760 DO YOU OR ANYBODY TEST BRAND 5489 03:31:48,760 --> 03:31:49,120 PRODUCTS? 5490 03:31:49,120 --> 03:31:50,840 THEY PROBABLY CONTAIN MORE 5491 03:31:50,840 --> 03:31:52,120 TOXINS BECAUSE OF HERBICIDES, 5492 03:31:52,120 --> 03:31:54,400 SOLD AS FOOD IN THE UNITED 5493 03:31:54,400 --> 03:31:55,240 STATES, AND SUPPLEMENTS IN THE 5494 03:31:55,240 --> 03:31:58,200 U.S. AND IN OTHER COUNTRIES. 5495 03:31:58,200 --> 03:32:02,160 ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ON 5496 03:32:02,160 --> 03:32:02,440 THAT, TOD? 5497 03:32:02,440 --> 03:32:08,080 >> SURE, YEAH. 5498 03:32:08,080 --> 03:32:11,440 BRAN, B-R-A-N? 5499 03:32:11,440 --> 03:32:12,040 >> YES. 5500 03:32:12,040 --> 03:32:14,320 >> WE ONCE TESTED A PROTEIN 5501 03:32:14,320 --> 03:32:18,800 POWDER, THAT WAS HEAVILY 5502 03:32:18,800 --> 03:32:20,880 CONTAMINATED WITH -- I FORGET 5503 03:32:20,880 --> 03:32:27,120 WHICH HEAVY METAL, BUT WE 5504 03:32:27,120 --> 03:32:30,840 BELIEVE IT WAS DUE TO BRAN. 5505 03:32:30,840 --> 03:32:34,760 WE'VE ALSO SEEN IT WITH RICE 5506 03:32:34,760 --> 03:32:34,960 BRAN. 5507 03:32:34,960 --> 03:32:37,440 BROWN RICE BRAN. 5508 03:32:37,440 --> 03:32:39,240 AND WE'VE ALSO TESTED OATS. 5509 03:32:39,240 --> 03:32:41,320 WE HAVE A WHOLE REVIEW OF OATS, 5510 03:32:41,320 --> 03:32:46,000 OATMEAL, ALL TYPES OF OAT 5511 03:32:46,000 --> 03:32:47,720 PRODUCTS, THERE WAS MORE HEAVY 5512 03:32:47,720 --> 03:32:50,680 METAL IN THOSE MORE LIKE HEAVILY 5513 03:32:50,680 --> 03:32:53,000 BRAN PRODUCTS, THE ANSWER IS 5514 03:32:53,000 --> 03:32:55,120 YES, ISSUES WITH BRAN. 5515 03:32:55,120 --> 03:33:00,520 >> OKAY, THANKS. 5516 03:33:00,520 --> 03:33:03,960 AND I'M SORRY, I'M NOT ABLE TO 5517 03:33:03,960 --> 03:33:06,240 UNDERSTAND A QUESTION THAT WAS 5518 03:33:06,240 --> 03:33:06,440 POSED. 5519 03:33:06,440 --> 03:33:09,240 I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK I WAS 5520 03:33:09,240 --> 03:33:10,680 FORGETTING YOU. 5521 03:33:10,680 --> 03:33:12,240 I'M SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND 5522 03:33:12,240 --> 03:33:13,880 THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING. 5523 03:33:13,880 --> 03:33:17,720 PERHAPS IT COULD BE SENT TO ODS 5524 03:33:17,720 --> 03:33:20,240 LATER ON AND THEY CAN TRY TO 5525 03:33:20,240 --> 03:33:23,080 HELP WORK THROUGH IT WITH YOU. 5526 03:33:23,080 --> 03:33:27,280 I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT I 5527 03:33:27,280 --> 03:33:31,400 WANTED TO -- SPECIFIC ONES, THEY 5528 03:33:31,400 --> 03:33:33,640 MIGHT ENGAGE EVERYBODY. 5529 03:33:33,640 --> 03:33:35,600 SALLY, YOU SHOWED THAT 5530 03:33:35,600 --> 03:33:38,360 PROVOCATIVE AND INTERESTING 5531 03:33:38,360 --> 03:33:42,920 SLIDE ABOUT DECLINE IN TRUST, 5532 03:33:42,920 --> 03:33:44,640 GENERALLY TRUSTED INDIVIDUALS. 5533 03:33:44,640 --> 03:33:47,600 AND YOU POINTED TO THE DECLINE 5534 03:33:47,600 --> 03:33:49,600 THAT WAS VERY LIKELY COVID 5535 03:33:49,600 --> 03:33:54,960 RELATED, BECAUSE IT WAS THAT 5536 03:33:54,960 --> 03:33:59,080 RECENT, MIGHT BE TRUE AND 5537 03:33:59,080 --> 03:34:00,760 UNRELATED BUT I DOUBT IT 5538 03:34:00,760 --> 03:34:01,920 ESPECIALLY WITH SCIENCE OF 5539 03:34:01,920 --> 03:34:03,440 SCIENCE AND MEDICAL SCIENCE. 5540 03:34:03,440 --> 03:34:05,520 WHAT I HAVE OBSERVED, IT'S A 5541 03:34:05,520 --> 03:34:08,320 LITTLE MORE SHAKING FOR ME, 5542 03:34:08,320 --> 03:34:12,400 BEING INVOLVED WITH THE AMERICAN 5543 03:34:12,400 --> 03:34:13,880 SOCIETY FOR NUTRITION, NUTRITION 5544 03:34:13,880 --> 03:34:14,480 SCIENTISTS, OF ALL SCIENTISTS, 5545 03:34:14,480 --> 03:34:18,760 TEND TO BE THE LEAST TRUSTED 5546 03:34:18,760 --> 03:34:19,040 THESE DAYS. 5547 03:34:19,040 --> 03:34:21,080 I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EXACTLY A 5548 03:34:21,080 --> 03:34:21,680 FUNCTION OF COVID. 5549 03:34:21,680 --> 03:34:24,840 DO YOU CARE TO COMMENT ON THAT? 5550 03:34:24,840 --> 03:34:28,680 AND OFFER ANY SOLUTIONS OR 5551 03:34:28,680 --> 03:34:28,920 THOUGHTS? 5552 03:34:28,920 --> 03:34:29,840 >> YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 5553 03:34:29,840 --> 03:34:30,720 SURPRISING TO ME. 5554 03:34:30,720 --> 03:34:33,720 I'M NOT SURE I HAVE A SOLUTION 5555 03:34:33,720 --> 03:34:35,240 BUT IT USED TO BE THAT WHEN IN 5556 03:34:35,240 --> 03:34:37,520 MY EARLY DAYS OF JOURNALISM, NOW 5557 03:34:37,520 --> 03:34:39,320 GOING BACK A WAYS, BUT WE USED 5558 03:34:39,320 --> 03:34:41,560 TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO -- 5559 03:34:41,560 --> 03:34:42,600 DEAR READER, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE 5560 03:34:42,600 --> 03:34:45,000 BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY, TELL 5561 03:34:45,000 --> 03:34:46,480 YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS EXPERT SAYS 5562 03:34:46,480 --> 03:34:47,600 THIS, THIS EXPERT SAYS THAT. 5563 03:34:47,600 --> 03:34:50,200 AND WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU KIND 5564 03:34:50,200 --> 03:34:52,920 OF DECIDE FOR YOURSELF WHAT YOU 5565 03:34:52,920 --> 03:34:54,560 THINK IS GOING ON. 5566 03:34:54,560 --> 03:34:58,760 IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE HAVE A 5567 03:34:58,760 --> 03:35:00,280 PUBLIC THAT IS -- SCIENCE 5568 03:35:00,280 --> 03:35:03,680 LITERACY SEEMS TO BE A VERY BIG 5569 03:35:03,680 --> 03:35:04,520 PROBLEM. 5570 03:35:04,520 --> 03:35:06,200 AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BAD 5571 03:35:06,200 --> 03:35:08,800 ON US FOR NOT BEING STRONGER ON 5572 03:35:08,800 --> 03:35:11,920 THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT 5573 03:35:11,920 --> 03:35:14,320 CONTRIBUTED, I'VE HAD TO BAT 5574 03:35:14,320 --> 03:35:17,120 DOWN A FEW GOOD FRIENDS WHO 5575 03:35:17,120 --> 03:35:18,960 SAID, OH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T 5576 03:35:18,960 --> 03:35:22,000 TAKE THIS COVID VACCINE BECAUSE 5577 03:35:22,000 --> 03:35:23,840 IT CAUSES THAT, AND THEN I WOULD 5578 03:35:23,840 --> 03:35:25,880 SEARCH THE LITERATURE AND WOULD 5579 03:35:25,880 --> 03:35:28,120 SHOW THEM, AND THEY WOULD GO, 5580 03:35:28,120 --> 03:35:29,160 OH, DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, BUT 5581 03:35:29,160 --> 03:35:35,280 THEY WERE GOING OFF FACEBOOK AND 5582 03:35:35,280 --> 03:35:38,080 OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA POSTINGS. 5583 03:35:38,080 --> 03:35:40,000 NUTRITION HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT, 5584 03:35:40,000 --> 03:35:42,440 WITH A GRADUATE DEGREE IN 5585 03:35:42,440 --> 03:35:43,760 NUTRITION, NUTRITION HAS ALWAYS 5586 03:35:43,760 --> 03:35:45,880 BEEN VIEWED AS A LITTLE BIT OF A 5587 03:35:45,880 --> 03:35:47,480 STEP CHILD IN SOME OF THE 5588 03:35:47,480 --> 03:35:50,320 SCIENTIFIC WORLD AND I WONDER IF 5589 03:35:50,320 --> 03:35:51,840 BECAUSE EVERYONE EATS AND 5590 03:35:51,840 --> 03:35:52,800 EVERYONE COOKS AND EVERYONE 5591 03:35:52,800 --> 03:35:57,040 THINKS THAT THEY KIND OF KNOW 5592 03:35:57,040 --> 03:35:58,800 THIS, OR KNOW IT, IN 5593 03:35:58,800 --> 03:36:01,200 PARENTHESES, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY 5594 03:36:01,200 --> 03:36:02,840 ARE EXPERTS. 5595 03:36:02,840 --> 03:36:05,320 WHAT'S NOT TO KNOW ABOUT EATING 5596 03:36:05,320 --> 03:36:06,600 AND FOOD? 5597 03:36:06,600 --> 03:36:10,280 AND SO I WONDER IF THAT'S PART 5598 03:36:10,280 --> 03:36:11,960 OF WHY THERE IS SO MUCH 5599 03:36:11,960 --> 03:36:12,960 DISTRUST, BUT IT'S VERY 5600 03:36:12,960 --> 03:36:16,080 CONCERNING BECAUSE I THINK IT 5601 03:36:16,080 --> 03:36:17,400 COSTS, DURING THE COVID 5602 03:36:17,400 --> 03:36:19,120 PANDEMIC, OBVIOUSLY COST A LOT 5603 03:36:19,120 --> 03:36:20,240 OF LIVES. 5604 03:36:20,240 --> 03:36:24,400 AND FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST DID NOT 5605 03:36:24,400 --> 03:36:25,120 GET VACCINATED. 5606 03:36:25,120 --> 03:36:27,960 AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING 5607 03:36:27,960 --> 03:36:29,000 TO HAPPEN WITH MONKEYPOX, I 5608 03:36:29,000 --> 03:36:30,480 DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE 5609 03:36:30,480 --> 03:36:31,520 ANYTHING LIKE COVID BUT AS WE 5610 03:36:31,520 --> 03:36:33,280 KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER 5611 03:36:33,280 --> 03:36:34,200 PANDEMIC, THERE'S GOING TO BE 5612 03:36:34,200 --> 03:36:37,040 SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S GOING TO 5613 03:36:37,040 --> 03:36:37,400 HAPPEN. 5614 03:36:37,400 --> 03:36:40,800 THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE LOSING 5615 03:36:40,800 --> 03:36:44,080 TRUST IN SCIENCE IS SURPRISING 5616 03:36:44,080 --> 03:36:44,560 TO ME. 5617 03:36:44,560 --> 03:36:46,320 ONE OF THE THINGS WE USED TO DO 5618 03:36:46,320 --> 03:36:49,840 AT THE POST WAS EXPLAIN TO 5619 03:36:49,840 --> 03:36:51,280 PEOPLE THAT SCIENCE EVOLVES. 5620 03:36:51,280 --> 03:36:51,760 THINK BACK. 5621 03:36:51,760 --> 03:36:55,400 WE USED TO THINK THE WORLD WAS 5622 03:36:55,400 --> 03:36:57,480 FLAT, WE KNOW IT'S ROUND, WE'VE 5623 03:36:57,480 --> 03:36:58,240 BEEN IN SPACE. 5624 03:36:58,240 --> 03:37:02,120 BUT SOMEHOW PEOPLE GET CAUGHT UP 5625 03:37:02,120 --> 03:37:03,400 IN THESE IDEAS AND DOGMA AND 5626 03:37:03,400 --> 03:37:04,720 JUST DON'T SEEM TO WANT TO LET 5627 03:37:04,720 --> 03:37:04,960 GO. 5628 03:37:04,960 --> 03:37:07,400 I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 5629 03:37:07,400 --> 03:37:08,760 ANSWER IS OTHER THAN INCREASING 5630 03:37:08,760 --> 03:37:10,960 THE CONVERSATION AND MAKING SURE 5631 03:37:10,960 --> 03:37:14,040 THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF 5632 03:37:14,040 --> 03:37:15,840 CREDIBLE PLACES AND TRUSTED 5633 03:37:15,840 --> 03:37:16,480 VOICES. 5634 03:37:16,480 --> 03:37:19,120 WHAT THAT WILL BE FOR WHATEVER 5635 03:37:19,120 --> 03:37:19,520 POPULATION. 5636 03:37:19,520 --> 03:37:23,120 >> ANYBODY ON THE PANEL HAVE A 5637 03:37:23,120 --> 03:37:25,080 COMMENT ABOUT THIS? 5638 03:37:25,080 --> 03:37:25,720 TOD? 5639 03:37:25,720 --> 03:37:25,920 >> YEAH. 5640 03:37:25,920 --> 03:37:29,640 SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE 5641 03:37:29,640 --> 03:37:33,120 TRUST WE WOULDN'T HAVE 95,000 5642 03:37:33,120 --> 03:37:33,400 SUBSCRIBERS. 5643 03:37:33,400 --> 03:37:36,600 DURING COVID, WE HAVE BEEN 5644 03:37:36,600 --> 03:37:37,240 WRITING ALSO WHICH SUPPLEMENTS 5645 03:37:37,240 --> 03:37:39,480 MAY OR MAY NOT BE HELPFUL IN 5646 03:37:39,480 --> 03:37:42,760 COVID, AT ANY POINT INCLUDING 5647 03:37:42,760 --> 03:37:43,240 PREVENTION. 5648 03:37:43,240 --> 03:37:47,200 AND SO WE BEGAN TO GET ALL KINDS 5649 03:37:47,200 --> 03:37:48,720 OF INTERESTING RESPONSES TO 5650 03:37:48,720 --> 03:37:49,400 THAT. 5651 03:37:49,400 --> 03:37:52,640 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE 5652 03:37:52,640 --> 03:37:54,480 WRITE ABOUT IVERMECTIN, OTHER 5653 03:37:54,480 --> 03:37:56,720 THINGS AS WELL, AND CLEARLY 5654 03:37:56,720 --> 03:37:59,120 PEOPLE WHO TRUST US AND TRUST 5655 03:37:59,120 --> 03:38:00,640 OUR INFORMATION WOULD STILL SAY, 5656 03:38:00,640 --> 03:38:04,680 LIKE, WHY DON'T YOU STAY OUT OF 5657 03:38:04,680 --> 03:38:04,840 IT? 5658 03:38:04,840 --> 03:38:07,880 YOU KNOW, STICK TO YOUR 5659 03:38:07,880 --> 03:38:08,880 SUPPLEMENTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE 5660 03:38:08,880 --> 03:38:10,320 WE'RE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE STAY 5661 03:38:10,320 --> 03:38:13,440 HEALTHY, YOU KNOW, AND TRYING TO 5662 03:38:13,440 --> 03:38:15,000 GIVE THEM INFORMATION THAT IS 5663 03:38:15,000 --> 03:38:16,960 HELPFUL BUT WHEN WE VENTURED 5664 03:38:16,960 --> 03:38:18,400 INTO AREAS RELATING TO COVID AND 5665 03:38:18,400 --> 03:38:20,880 THINGS LIKE THAT, IT WASN'T THAT 5666 03:38:20,880 --> 03:38:21,800 PEOPLE DIDN'T TRUST OUR 5667 03:38:21,800 --> 03:38:24,120 INFORMATION BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT 5668 03:38:24,120 --> 03:38:25,920 US GOING THERE. 5669 03:38:25,920 --> 03:38:26,960 THAT'S A MINORITY OF PEOPLE BUT 5670 03:38:26,960 --> 03:38:32,960 WE HAD NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE. 5671 03:38:32,960 --> 03:38:33,560 >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS FROM 5672 03:38:33,560 --> 03:38:34,080 FOLKS? 5673 03:38:34,080 --> 03:38:35,960 >> IN TERMS OF NUTRITION SCIENCE 5674 03:38:35,960 --> 03:38:37,960 I WOULD GO BEYOND DIETARY 5675 03:38:37,960 --> 03:38:38,480 SUPPLEMENTS. 5676 03:38:38,480 --> 03:38:40,120 AND IF YOU LOOK AT FOOD 5677 03:38:40,120 --> 03:38:42,080 COMPANIES AND HOW THEY MARKET 5678 03:38:42,080 --> 03:38:43,760 HEALTH CLAIMS OR LIKE HEALTHY 5679 03:38:43,760 --> 03:38:46,080 EATING, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE 5680 03:38:46,080 --> 03:38:51,440 LOW FAT CRAZE IN THE '90s 5681 03:38:51,440 --> 03:38:52,480 WHERE ADDED INSANE AMOUNTS OF 5682 03:38:52,480 --> 03:38:53,680 SALT TO FOOD. 5683 03:38:53,680 --> 03:38:54,960 TRYING TO MARKET UNHEALTHY FOOD 5684 03:38:54,960 --> 03:38:55,840 AS HEALTHY. 5685 03:38:55,840 --> 03:38:59,200 AND THEN PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING 5686 03:38:59,200 --> 03:39:02,000 PRODUCTS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, 5687 03:39:02,000 --> 03:39:03,120 WHAT'S MARKETS WITH SCIENCE AND 5688 03:39:03,120 --> 03:39:06,520 THEY ARE NOT GETTING HEALTHIER, 5689 03:39:06,520 --> 03:39:09,760 NOT GETTING -- NOT SAFER. 5690 03:39:09,760 --> 03:39:12,520 AND THEN SO WHEN WE TRY TO SAY 5691 03:39:12,520 --> 03:39:17,200 SOMETHING IT'S ALL NOISE AND 5692 03:39:17,200 --> 03:39:19,000 CONSUMERS DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 5693 03:39:19,000 --> 03:39:19,720 TO CHOOSE. 5694 03:39:19,720 --> 03:39:22,320 WHEN YOU GET A MESSAGE, TAKE 5695 03:39:22,320 --> 03:39:23,120 THIS PILL, TAKE THIS POWDER, IT 5696 03:39:23,120 --> 03:39:24,400 WILL PROTECT YOU FROM COVID OR 5697 03:39:24,400 --> 03:39:26,760 HELP YOU LOSE WEIGHT OR DO X, Y, 5698 03:39:26,760 --> 03:39:29,800 AND Z, A SIMPLE MESSAGE, EASY TO 5699 03:39:29,800 --> 03:39:31,760 UNDERSTAND, WHEN YOU GET BRAND 5700 03:39:31,760 --> 03:39:33,840 AMBASSADORS ON FACEBOOK, PEOPLE 5701 03:39:33,840 --> 03:39:38,080 THAT YOU TRUST, YOU KNOW, 5702 03:39:38,080 --> 03:39:40,120 SAYING -- PARROTING THESE 5703 03:39:40,120 --> 03:39:41,800 THINGS, IT'S HARD FOR SCIENTISTS 5704 03:39:41,800 --> 03:39:43,760 TO SPEAK THROUGH THE NOISE AND 5705 03:39:43,760 --> 03:39:45,040 CONSUMERS DON'T UNDERSTAND 5706 03:39:45,040 --> 03:39:47,240 WHAT'S COMING FROM SCIENTISTS 5707 03:39:47,240 --> 03:39:50,120 AND WHAT'S JUST COMING FROM 5708 03:39:50,120 --> 03:39:50,880 NOISE. 5709 03:39:50,880 --> 03:39:52,040 >> WELL, THANK YOU. 5710 03:39:52,040 --> 03:39:52,680 YES, SALLY? 5711 03:39:52,680 --> 03:39:55,360 >> IF I MAY, I THINK THE OTHER 5712 03:39:55,360 --> 03:39:57,040 THING THAT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT 5713 03:39:57,040 --> 03:39:59,200 AND I'D SAY THIS HAVING COVERED 5714 03:39:59,200 --> 03:40:02,600 DIETARY GUIDELINES FOR 25 YEARS, 5715 03:40:02,600 --> 03:40:04,680 THAT SIMPLE MESSAGES ABOUT WHAT 5716 03:40:04,680 --> 03:40:07,280 TO EAT, WHAT NOT TO EAT, IF YOU 5717 03:40:07,280 --> 03:40:10,760 LOOK AT DIETARY GUIDELINES, THE 5718 03:40:10,760 --> 03:40:12,520 ACTUAL MESSAGE, I'M PREACHING TO 5719 03:40:12,520 --> 03:40:15,320 THE CHOIR HERE, ACTUAL MESSAGES 5720 03:40:15,320 --> 03:40:17,560 HAVE CHANGED VERY LITTLE, BUT WE 5721 03:40:17,560 --> 03:40:19,960 STILL DON'T HAVE SIMPLE MESSAGES 5722 03:40:19,960 --> 03:40:23,800 THAT PEOPLE COULD JUST SAY, OH, 5723 03:40:23,800 --> 03:40:25,520 I SHSHOULD DO THIS OR THAT. 5724 03:40:25,520 --> 03:40:36,040 WE'VE ARE FIVE A DAY, NINE A 5725 03:40:36,600 --> 03:40:39,680 DAY, FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, 5726 03:40:39,680 --> 03:40:50,200 PEOPLE NEED SIMPLE MESSAGES THAT 5727 03:40:53,880 --> 03:40:55,440 WILL RESONATE, THEY WANT 5728 03:40:55,440 --> 03:40:56,600 SOMETHING SIMPLE, SCIENTISTS 5729 03:40:56,600 --> 03:41:01,400 HAVE NOT ALWAYS DONE A GREAT 5730 03:41:01,400 --> 03:41:10,520 JOB, EVEN WITH COVID, BOTTOM 5731 03:41:10,520 --> 03:41:16,440 LINE, IT'S BEEN CONFUSING. 5732 03:41:16,440 --> 03:41:18,920 >> I APPRECIATE SALLY'S TALK HOW 5733 03:41:18,920 --> 03:41:20,520 THINGS EVOLVED, IN THE PRESS 5734 03:41:20,520 --> 03:41:21,720 OVER THE YEARS. 5735 03:41:21,720 --> 03:41:24,200 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO 5736 03:41:24,200 --> 03:41:27,920 RECOGNIZE HERE, SCIENCE OF 5737 03:41:27,920 --> 03:41:28,760 COURSE IS IMPORTANT, BUT 5738 03:41:28,760 --> 03:41:30,400 SCIENTISTS MAKE PROGRESS BY 5739 03:41:30,400 --> 03:41:31,920 USING SCIENTIFIC METHOD, WHICH 5740 03:41:31,920 --> 03:41:35,400 IS A WAY OF CHECKING CONCLUSIONS 5741 03:41:35,400 --> 03:41:40,520 AGAINST WHAT HAPPENS IN NATURE. 5742 03:41:40,520 --> 03:41:41,560 THEY DEVELOP HYPOTHESES, 5743 03:41:41,560 --> 03:41:43,320 PUBLICATION OF A SINGLE STUDY 5744 03:41:43,320 --> 03:41:43,880 ISN'T NECESSARILY -- DOESN'T 5745 03:41:43,880 --> 03:41:44,880 NECESSARILY MEAN SOMETHING IS 5746 03:41:44,880 --> 03:41:45,960 TRUE, RIGHT? 5747 03:41:45,960 --> 03:41:49,520 YOU GO ON, AND WHEN THERE'S 5748 03:41:49,520 --> 03:41:50,600 ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT 5749 03:41:50,600 --> 03:41:53,200 ACCUMULATES, IN REGARDS TO 5750 03:41:53,200 --> 03:41:55,960 PHENOMENON, YOU HAVE A THEORY 5751 03:41:55,960 --> 03:41:57,720 AND PEOPLE WILL DO DIFFERENT 5752 03:41:57,720 --> 03:42:00,280 TESTS TO EVALUATE THAT THEORY. 5753 03:42:00,280 --> 03:42:02,400 AND THEN IT DEVELOPS OVER A 5754 03:42:02,400 --> 03:42:02,680 TIME. 5755 03:42:02,680 --> 03:42:04,800 AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO USE A 5756 03:42:04,800 --> 03:42:06,600 WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE APPROACH LIKE 5757 03:42:06,600 --> 03:42:09,040 WHAT SALLY DESCRIBED, IN HOW SHE 5758 03:42:09,040 --> 03:42:11,200 LOOKS AT THE DIFFERENT -- WHAT'S 5759 03:42:11,200 --> 03:42:12,960 IN PubMed OR DIFFERENT 5760 03:42:12,960 --> 03:42:14,000 DATABASES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 5761 03:42:14,000 --> 03:42:15,680 THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER. 5762 03:42:15,680 --> 03:42:17,880 WE DON'T WANT TO JUST -- IT IS 5763 03:42:17,880 --> 03:42:21,640 IMPORTANT FOR SIMPLE MESSAGING 5764 03:42:21,640 --> 03:42:23,160 BUT ALSO IMPORTANT FOR CONSUMERS 5765 03:42:23,160 --> 03:42:24,720 TO BE SMART SHOPPERS, WHETHER IT 5766 03:42:24,720 --> 03:42:26,400 COMES TO WHAT FOODS THEY EAT OR 5767 03:42:26,400 --> 03:42:28,160 WHAT DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS THEY 5768 03:42:28,160 --> 03:42:28,360 TAKE. 5769 03:42:28,360 --> 03:42:31,680 AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 5770 03:42:31,680 --> 03:42:33,720 THERE IS A RESPONSIBILITY THERE, 5771 03:42:33,720 --> 03:42:35,160 ON THE MANUFACTURER BUT ALSO 5772 03:42:35,160 --> 03:42:36,080 CONSUMERS TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE 5773 03:42:36,080 --> 03:42:37,840 PURCHASING AND TALK TO THEIR 5774 03:42:37,840 --> 03:42:42,000 DOCTOR ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. 5775 03:42:42,000 --> 03:42:42,640 >> GOOD. 5776 03:42:42,640 --> 03:42:42,920 THANK YOU. 5777 03:42:42,920 --> 03:42:45,600 I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. 5778 03:42:45,600 --> 03:42:49,600 I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AIMED AT 5779 03:42:49,600 --> 03:42:53,120 THE THREE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 5780 03:42:53,120 --> 03:42:53,560 TRADE ASSOCIATIONS. 5781 03:42:53,560 --> 03:42:57,800 ONE OR TWO OF YOU MENTIONED THE 5782 03:42:57,800 --> 03:43:01,520 UPCOMING OR THE PROPOSED 5783 03:43:01,520 --> 03:43:04,120 LEGISLATION FROM DURBIN ET AL. 5784 03:43:04,120 --> 03:43:05,960 IN THE SENATE ON MANDATORY 5785 03:43:05,960 --> 03:43:11,000 PRODUCT LISTING, AND I KNOW THAT 5786 03:43:11,000 --> 03:43:14,000 THE TRADES ARE NOT ALL SINGING 5787 03:43:14,000 --> 03:43:17,080 OFF THE SAME SHEET, ON THIS. 5788 03:43:17,080 --> 03:43:19,360 AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, SO, 5789 03:43:19,360 --> 03:43:26,080 WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND WHY 5790 03:43:26,080 --> 03:43:28,000 DIFFERENT TRADE ORGANIZATIONS 5791 03:43:28,000 --> 03:43:28,680 WHO REPRESENT OVERLAPPING 5792 03:43:28,680 --> 03:43:30,720 COMPONENTS OF THE DIETARY 5793 03:43:30,720 --> 03:43:32,440 SUPPLEMENT INDUSTRY ARE SEEING 5794 03:43:32,440 --> 03:43:34,640 THIS IN SUCH DIFFERENT WAYS. 5795 03:43:34,640 --> 03:43:37,160 DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO START WITH 5796 03:43:37,160 --> 03:43:39,000 WHAT THE -- WHAT'S THE ISSUE 5797 03:43:39,000 --> 03:43:41,840 HERE AND WHY IS THERE A 5798 03:43:41,840 --> 03:43:43,160 DISCREPANCY OF OPINION AMONG 5799 03:43:43,160 --> 03:43:44,480 PEOPLE WHO YOU WOULD THINK WOULD 5800 03:43:44,480 --> 03:43:52,520 BE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THIS? 5801 03:43:52,520 --> 03:43:54,640 >> I'LL BE HAPPY TO JUMP IN 5802 03:43:54,640 --> 03:43:56,600 FIRST IF YOU'D LIKE. 5803 03:43:56,600 --> 03:43:58,880 >> OKAY, GO AHEAD. 5804 03:43:58,880 --> 03:44:00,160 >> SO, THINK IT MAY BE AS WE'RE 5805 03:44:00,160 --> 03:44:02,600 ALL IN THE SAME MARKET AND DO 5806 03:44:02,600 --> 03:44:05,920 HAVE ASPECTINGS IN COMMON WITH 5807 03:44:05,920 --> 03:44:08,040 EACH OTHER, EACH IS FOCUSED ON 5808 03:44:08,040 --> 03:44:10,000 SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PRODUCT AREAS 5809 03:44:10,000 --> 03:44:11,280 AND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SORT OF 5810 03:44:11,280 --> 03:44:13,360 SEGMENTS OF THE UNITED STATES 5811 03:44:13,360 --> 03:44:22,320 MARKET AS WELL. 5812 03:44:22,320 --> 03:44:25,800 SO, I KNOW I SAT IN MEETINGS 5813 03:44:25,800 --> 03:44:29,680 WITH AHPA, SMALL BUSINESSES CAN 5814 03:44:29,680 --> 03:44:31,080 ACHIEVE REGULATORY 5815 03:44:31,080 --> 03:44:33,360 RESPONSIBILITIES FOR SIMPLE 5816 03:44:33,360 --> 03:44:37,120 HERBAL PRODUCTS, LIKE TEA BAGS, 5817 03:44:37,120 --> 03:44:37,760 FOR EXAMPLE. 5818 03:44:37,760 --> 03:44:39,840 BUT AS THERE ARE ADDITIONAL 5819 03:44:39,840 --> 03:44:42,240 REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM, IF THAT 5820 03:44:42,240 --> 03:44:44,120 MARKETPLACE ISN'T CONSIDERED AS 5821 03:44:44,120 --> 03:44:48,080 A REGULATION IS BEING WRITTEN, 5822 03:44:48,080 --> 03:44:50,840 IT CAN REALLY CAUSE A LOT OF 5823 03:44:50,840 --> 03:45:01,400 SORT OF -- AS A SMALL BUSINESS 5824 03:45:02,720 --> 03:45:03,720 PERSON YOU NEED YOUR GOVERNMENT 5825 03:45:03,720 --> 03:45:05,320 TO SUPPORT YOU, WITH MANDATORY 5826 03:45:05,320 --> 03:45:09,240 PRODUCT LABELING, FOR EXAMPLE, 5827 03:45:09,240 --> 03:45:10,840 FOR TRADITIONAL PLANT PRODUCTS, 5828 03:45:10,840 --> 03:45:11,600 LISTING, I'M SORRY, IT'S KIND OF 5829 03:45:11,600 --> 03:45:14,920 A LITTLE DID IT REFERENCE 5830 03:45:14,920 --> 03:45:18,160 T HAN -- DIFFERENT THAN ESOTERIC 5831 03:45:18,160 --> 03:45:19,160 EXTRACTS OR SOME SECTORS IN A 5832 03:45:19,160 --> 03:45:22,800 MIGHT BE MORE COMMON IN OTHER 5833 03:45:22,800 --> 03:45:27,120 AREAS I THINK. 5834 03:45:27,120 --> 03:45:27,880 >> THAT WE PRESIDENT-ELECTS 5835 03:45:27,880 --> 03:45:32,280 OPPOSITION ON OPPOSING THE 5836 03:45:32,280 --> 03:45:32,840 MANDATORY PRODUCT LISTING. 5837 03:45:32,840 --> 03:45:34,160 >> I THINK POSITION IS THERE 5838 03:45:34,160 --> 03:45:36,080 NEEDS TO BE A GOOD LAW THAT 5839 03:45:36,080 --> 03:45:37,280 HELPS THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH 5840 03:45:37,280 --> 03:45:40,480 OUR MISSION OF MAKING SURE 5841 03:45:40,480 --> 03:45:46,800 CONSUMER HAS ACCESS TO SAFE HIGH 5842 03:45:46,800 --> 03:45:47,720 QUALITY PRODUCTS. 5843 03:45:47,720 --> 03:45:48,920 IF SOME ARE PUSHED OUT OF THE 5844 03:45:48,920 --> 03:45:50,320 MARKET BY REGULATIONS THAT MAKE 5845 03:45:50,320 --> 03:45:51,440 IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR BUSINESSES TO 5846 03:45:51,440 --> 03:45:52,200 OPERATE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT 5847 03:45:52,200 --> 03:45:53,880 HAS COME UP IN MEETINGS WE WANT 5848 03:45:53,880 --> 03:45:56,400 TO MAKE SURE ISN'T FORGOTTEN IN 5849 03:45:56,400 --> 03:45:58,000 THE GENERAL CONVERSATION. 5850 03:45:58,000 --> 03:46:01,040 >> FOLLOWING ON THAT, WHY WOULD 5851 03:46:01,040 --> 03:46:05,160 IT BE A BURDEN TO PROVIDE THE 5852 03:46:05,160 --> 03:46:06,840 PRODUCT LABELS? 5853 03:46:06,840 --> 03:46:09,040 A LOT OF COMPANIES AS BRIAN 5854 03:46:09,040 --> 03:46:12,000 POINTED OUT WITH OWL AND THAT 5855 03:46:12,000 --> 03:46:14,800 ODS KNOWS WITH ITS DIETARY 5856 03:46:14,800 --> 03:46:15,960 SUPPLEMENT LABEL DATABASE, A LOT 5857 03:46:15,960 --> 03:46:18,120 OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF COMPANIES 5858 03:46:18,120 --> 03:46:23,560 HAVE BEEN WILLING TO VOLUNTEER 5859 03:46:23,560 --> 03:46:24,160 THEIR LABELS. 5860 03:46:24,160 --> 03:46:26,160 I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE 5861 03:46:26,160 --> 03:46:29,400 CHALLENGE WOULD BE FOR SMALL 5862 03:46:29,400 --> 03:46:30,280 COMPANY. 5863 03:46:30,280 --> 03:46:31,880 >> A SMALL COMPANY HAS TWO 5864 03:46:31,880 --> 03:46:33,400 EMPLOYEES, AND RIGHT NOW ONE OF 5865 03:46:33,400 --> 03:46:35,240 THE EMPLOYEES GOES TO THE FOREST 5866 03:46:35,240 --> 03:46:36,520 AND GATHERS GINSENG ROOTS AND 5867 03:46:36,520 --> 03:46:38,400 THE OTHER FILLS OUT PAPERWORK 5868 03:46:38,400 --> 03:46:39,680 FOR FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE TO 5869 03:46:39,680 --> 03:46:44,280 MAKE SURE THOSE ARE RECORDED 5870 03:46:44,280 --> 03:46:44,720 CORRECTLY. 5871 03:46:44,720 --> 03:46:46,680 IF THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT EXTRA 5872 03:46:46,680 --> 03:46:48,640 FORMS TO FDA AND AGENCY IS 5873 03:46:48,640 --> 03:46:51,720 UNABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH HELP 5874 03:46:51,720 --> 03:46:54,520 OR SUPPORT OR CHARGES FEES, THAT 5875 03:46:54,520 --> 03:46:56,400 SEGMENT OF THE MARKET IS 5876 03:46:56,400 --> 03:46:57,560 AFFECTED MORE THAN BUSINESSES 5877 03:46:57,560 --> 03:46:58,760 WHICH MIGHT HAVE TENS OR 5878 03:46:58,760 --> 03:46:59,600 HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WORKING THERE 5879 03:46:59,600 --> 03:47:03,200 WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD A 5880 03:47:03,200 --> 03:47:06,640 SMALL-LOOKING REQUIREMENT TO 5881 03:47:06,640 --> 03:47:09,000 SUBMIT LABELS, BUT WHO HAVE A 5882 03:47:09,000 --> 03:47:10,120 LITTLE MORE WIGGLE ROOM AS FAR 5883 03:47:10,120 --> 03:47:11,520 AS CHANGING AROUND THINGS THAT 5884 03:47:11,520 --> 03:47:14,480 THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAVE TO WORK 5885 03:47:14,480 --> 03:47:17,920 WITH, AS A VERY SMALL BUSINESS. 5886 03:47:17,920 --> 03:47:20,080 THIS IS ONE SMALL SEGMENT AREA. 5887 03:47:20,080 --> 03:47:21,520 TRIED TO FOCUS ON HOW CAN WE 5888 03:47:21,520 --> 03:47:26,000 MOVE AND ACT TO BEST IMPROVE OUR 5889 03:47:26,000 --> 03:47:26,480 SYSTEMS. 5890 03:47:26,480 --> 03:47:28,520 THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT 5891 03:47:28,520 --> 03:47:30,040 SUGGESTIONS INCLUDING PRODUCT 5892 03:47:30,040 --> 03:47:31,640 LABELING, DATABASES, THAT WE 5893 03:47:31,640 --> 03:47:32,200 MENTIONED. 5894 03:47:32,200 --> 03:47:35,680 THAT MIGHT BE A NICE PANEL 5895 03:47:35,680 --> 03:47:37,760 DISCUSSION ON ITS OWN. 5896 03:47:37,760 --> 03:47:38,600 >> BRIAN? 5897 03:47:38,600 --> 03:47:40,200 >> SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH 5898 03:47:40,200 --> 03:47:45,240 MERLE WE DON'T WANT TO BURDEN 5899 03:47:45,240 --> 03:47:46,640 SMALL BUSINESSES AND I WOULDN'T 5900 03:47:46,640 --> 03:47:50,080 DISAGREE WITH THAT. 5901 03:47:50,080 --> 03:47:51,080 HOWEVER, THIS IS SOMETHING 5902 03:47:51,080 --> 03:47:52,800 REGULATOR IS ASKING FOR THAT IT 5903 03:47:52,800 --> 03:47:54,080 DOESN'T SEEM UNREASONABLE TO 5904 03:47:54,080 --> 03:47:55,080 PROVIDE. 5905 03:47:55,080 --> 03:47:56,040 AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT WILL 5906 03:47:56,040 --> 03:47:59,080 PROVIDE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL 5907 03:47:59,080 --> 03:48:01,840 TRANSPARENCY TO THE MARKET. 5908 03:48:01,840 --> 03:48:03,520 I THINK THE SUCCESS OF THE OWL 5909 03:48:03,520 --> 03:48:05,560 HAS TO SOME EXTENT SHOWN THIS 5910 03:48:05,560 --> 03:48:07,560 CAN WORK, AND THERE WERE FOLKS 5911 03:48:07,560 --> 03:48:08,960 INITIALLY WHO WERE CONCERNED THE 5912 03:48:08,960 --> 03:48:12,040 OWL WOULD BE TOO BURDENSOME, AND 5913 03:48:12,040 --> 03:48:14,200 WE WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE IT NOT 5914 03:48:14,200 --> 03:48:18,280 BE SO BURDENSOME. 5915 03:48:18,280 --> 03:48:19,680 WE'VE GOT SMALLER MEMBERS, IF WE 5916 03:48:19,680 --> 03:48:21,320 HAVE TO PUT OUR LABELS IN THERE 5917 03:48:21,320 --> 03:48:24,400 THAT'S GROWING TO CREATE THIS 5918 03:48:24,400 --> 03:48:24,880 BURDEN. 5919 03:48:24,880 --> 03:48:26,320 PART OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE 5920 03:48:26,320 --> 03:48:27,720 OWL I MENTIONED WERE ABOUT 5921 03:48:27,720 --> 03:48:30,720 MAKING IT EASIER TO GET LABELS 5922 03:48:30,720 --> 03:48:31,200 IN. 5923 03:48:31,200 --> 03:48:33,320 IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH FDA WE 5924 03:48:33,320 --> 03:48:34,480 PUT THAT FORWARD AS, ALL RIGHT, 5925 03:48:34,480 --> 03:48:36,960 AS YOU DO THIS, IF YOU GET THIS 5926 03:48:36,960 --> 03:48:39,560 AUTHORITY, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE 5927 03:48:39,560 --> 03:48:40,920 IT'S NOT A BURDEN. 5928 03:48:40,920 --> 03:48:42,800 BENEFIT NEEDS TO BE MUCH GREATER 5929 03:48:42,800 --> 03:48:44,120 THAN THE BURDEN. 5930 03:48:44,120 --> 03:48:45,960 SO, I THINK OWL IS SOMETHING OF 5931 03:48:45,960 --> 03:48:47,960 A TEMPLATE TO SHOW THIS CAN WORK 5932 03:48:47,960 --> 03:48:55,240 AND IN A WAY THAT'S NOT OVERLY 5933 03:48:55,240 --> 03:48:55,920 BURDEN SOME BUT TWO-PERSON 5934 03:48:55,920 --> 03:48:58,240 COMPANY MAY BE A SITUATION IT IS 5935 03:48:58,240 --> 03:48:59,640 TOO BURDEN SOME. 5936 03:48:59,640 --> 03:49:02,720 I FEEL FOR THOSE FOLKS BUT I DO 5937 03:49:02,720 --> 03:49:04,520 THINK THE OVERALL LEVEL OF 5938 03:49:04,520 --> 03:49:06,520 TRANSPARENCY TO THE INDUSTRY IS 5939 03:49:06,520 --> 03:49:07,200 SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP ALL OF 5940 03:49:07,200 --> 03:49:10,360 US, I THINK IT WILL HELP THE FDA 5941 03:49:10,360 --> 03:49:11,480 DO ITS JOB BETTER. 5942 03:49:11,480 --> 03:49:14,160 THERE ARE OTHER TRADE 5943 03:49:14,160 --> 03:49:14,880 ASSOCIATIONS NOT REPRESENTED 5944 03:49:14,880 --> 03:49:17,160 HERE WHO ARE DEAD SET AGAINST 5945 03:49:17,160 --> 03:49:18,400 IT, CALLING IT PRE-MARKET 5946 03:49:18,400 --> 03:49:20,320 APPROVAL AND THINK IT GOES 5947 03:49:20,320 --> 03:49:20,640 AGAINST DSHEA. 5948 03:49:20,640 --> 03:49:22,520 I HAVE A HARD TIME SEEING HOW 5949 03:49:22,520 --> 03:49:26,240 SUBMITTING A LABEL IS PRE-MARKET 5950 03:49:26,240 --> 03:49:28,280 APPROVAL IF REGULATOR IS OBLIGED 5951 03:49:28,280 --> 03:49:30,920 TO ACCEPT THE LABEL AS IT'S 5952 03:49:30,920 --> 03:49:31,680 GIVEN. 5953 03:49:31,680 --> 03:49:33,200 BUT THAT'S MORE CROSS-TALK WE'RE 5954 03:49:33,200 --> 03:49:34,440 HAVING WITH THE INDUSTRY. 5955 03:49:34,440 --> 03:49:37,720 >> AND, JAY, YOU DON'T HAVE 5956 03:49:37,720 --> 03:49:39,840 BOTANICAL DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 5957 03:49:39,840 --> 03:49:41,760 MEMBERS, I DON'T THINK. 5958 03:49:41,760 --> 03:49:42,080 >> WE DO? 5959 03:49:42,080 --> 03:49:42,320 >> YOU DO? 5960 03:49:42,320 --> 03:49:43,560 >> WE DO. 5961 03:49:43,560 --> 03:49:45,840 >> YOU DON'T HAVE AN OWL 5962 03:49:45,840 --> 03:49:46,160 DATABASE. 5963 03:49:46,160 --> 03:49:49,320 I WAS JUST THINKING YOU MIGHT 5964 03:49:49,320 --> 03:49:51,560 HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON 5965 03:49:51,560 --> 03:49:52,560 THIS. 5966 03:49:52,560 --> 03:49:54,840 >> YEAH, AND I ALLUDED TO IT IN 5967 03:49:54,840 --> 03:49:59,240 MY TALK THAT WE DO SUPPORT THE 5968 03:49:59,240 --> 03:50:00,440 MANDATORY PRODUCT LISTING THAT'S 5969 03:50:00,440 --> 03:50:02,040 IN THE LEGISLATION, BUT WE THINK 5970 03:50:02,040 --> 03:50:04,720 IT SHOULD BE TAKEN EVEN FURTHER 5971 03:50:04,720 --> 03:50:08,000 AND THERE SHOULD BE A PROVISION 5972 03:50:08,000 --> 03:50:13,280 IN THERE FOR FDA TO AUTHORIZE 5973 03:50:13,280 --> 03:50:16,240 THIRD PARTIES TO DO INSPECTIONS, 5974 03:50:16,240 --> 03:50:20,280 WHICH WOULD ALLOW A MUCH GREATER 5975 03:50:20,280 --> 03:50:22,120 AMOUNT OF COMPANIES TO BE 5976 03:50:22,120 --> 03:50:23,000 INSPECTED EVERY YEAR. 5977 03:50:23,000 --> 03:50:26,400 I THINK I MENTIONED IT'S 5978 03:50:26,400 --> 03:50:28,000 SOMETHING AROUND 5% OF COMPANIES 5979 03:50:28,000 --> 03:50:30,400 THAT ARE INSPECTED IN A GIVEN 5980 03:50:30,400 --> 03:50:30,920 YEAR. 5981 03:50:30,920 --> 03:50:33,240 AND WE JUST FEEL -- OUR MEMBERS 5982 03:50:33,240 --> 03:50:35,600 FEEL THAT THERE'S NO TEETH TO 5983 03:50:35,600 --> 03:50:37,240 THE LISTING, YOU KNOW, IF 5984 03:50:37,240 --> 03:50:40,400 THERE'S NO SORT OF ENFORCEMENT 5985 03:50:40,400 --> 03:50:42,080 BEHIND IT, SOME PENALTY FOR 5986 03:50:42,080 --> 03:50:43,440 PUTTING OUT A PRODUCT ON THE 5987 03:50:43,440 --> 03:50:46,320 LIST, OR SENDING IN A LABEL, 5988 03:50:46,320 --> 03:50:47,600 THAT MIGHT NOT ACCURATELY 5989 03:50:47,600 --> 03:50:48,920 REFLECT WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN 5990 03:50:48,920 --> 03:50:49,280 THERE. 5991 03:50:49,280 --> 03:50:52,240 AND IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. 5992 03:50:52,240 --> 03:50:54,760 SO, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE 5993 03:50:54,760 --> 03:50:55,560 MANDATORY PRODUCT LISTING 5994 03:50:55,560 --> 03:50:58,400 ENACTED BUT WE ALSO WOULD LIKE 5995 03:50:58,400 --> 03:51:04,240 TO SEE THIS AUTHORIZATION OF 5996 03:51:04,240 --> 03:51:05,560 THIRD PARTY GMP INSPECTIONS. 5997 03:51:05,560 --> 03:51:08,040 WE THINK IT WOULD INCREASE 5998 03:51:08,040 --> 03:51:09,360 ABILITY TO ACT ON THE BAD ACTORS 5999 03:51:09,360 --> 03:51:11,680 THAT ARE OUT THERE. 6000 03:51:11,680 --> 03:51:13,160 >> THANK YOU. 6001 03:51:13,160 --> 03:51:16,120 BRIAN, A COMMENT CAME IN WHILE 6002 03:51:16,120 --> 03:51:18,520 URN TALKING FROM JOHANNA DWYER. 6003 03:51:18,520 --> 03:51:21,760 ISN'T IT TRUE MOST OF THE OWL 6004 03:51:21,760 --> 03:51:24,000 LABELS COME ACTUALLY FROM THE 6005 03:51:24,000 --> 03:51:26,600 ODS DIETARY SUPPLEMENT LABEL 6006 03:51:26,600 --> 03:51:27,600 DATABASE? 6007 03:51:27,600 --> 03:51:28,560 >> THEY COME FROM THERE? 6008 03:51:28,560 --> 03:51:29,040 >> YEAH. 6009 03:51:29,040 --> 03:51:30,960 >> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COMING 6010 03:51:30,960 --> 03:51:32,080 FROM THERE. 6011 03:51:32,080 --> 03:51:34,200 I THINK OUR MEMBERS PUT THEM IN, 6012 03:51:34,200 --> 03:51:38,240 INTO THE OWL. 6013 03:51:38,240 --> 03:51:41,080 THEY COME FROM COMPANIES. 6014 03:51:41,080 --> 03:51:43,200 I MEAN, ODS DATABASE I THINK 6015 03:51:43,200 --> 03:51:44,000 IT'S FANTASTIC BUT SERVES 6016 03:51:44,000 --> 03:51:46,080 DIFFERENT PURPOSES SEEMS TO ME, 6017 03:51:46,080 --> 03:51:48,560 IT'S MORE OF -- I MEAN IT'S A 6018 03:51:48,560 --> 03:51:49,280 HISTORICAL LOOK BACK AS WELL AS 6019 03:51:49,280 --> 03:51:51,120 WHAT'S ON THE MARKET NOW, NOT A 6020 03:51:51,120 --> 03:51:52,320 COMPLETE LOOK AT WHAT'S ON THE 6021 03:51:52,320 --> 03:51:53,920 MARKET NOW, SO THERE HAVE BEEN 6022 03:51:53,920 --> 03:51:56,040 SOME THAT SAY THERE ARE OTHER 6023 03:51:56,040 --> 03:51:56,960 DATABASES, WHY DO WE NEED ONE 6024 03:51:56,960 --> 03:51:57,240 MORE? 6025 03:51:57,240 --> 03:52:00,520 EACH OF THE OTHER ONES PERFORMS 6026 03:52:00,520 --> 03:52:06,160 SOMEWHAT OF A DIFFERENT PURPOSE 6027 03:52:06,160 --> 03:52:07,000 TO SOME EXTENT. 6028 03:52:07,000 --> 03:52:08,560 THE FACT THEY ARE ASKING THEY 6029 03:52:08,560 --> 03:52:10,520 DON'T THINK THE ONES OUT THERE 6030 03:52:10,520 --> 03:52:11,080 ARE SUFFICIENT. 6031 03:52:11,080 --> 03:52:12,800 >> OR THE WAY THEY ARE 6032 03:52:12,800 --> 03:52:17,400 INSTRUCTED DOES NOT MEET THEIR 6033 03:52:17,400 --> 03:52:17,680 PURPOSES. 6034 03:52:17,680 --> 03:52:18,280 >> RIGHT, RIGHT. 6035 03:52:18,280 --> 03:52:19,520 >> THANK YOU. 6036 03:52:19,520 --> 03:52:21,280 SALLY, THERE WAS -- I DON'T KNOW 6037 03:52:21,280 --> 03:52:21,760 YOU READ -- 6038 03:52:21,760 --> 03:52:24,200 >> I SAW THAT, YES. 6039 03:52:24,200 --> 03:52:24,720 SOMEONE HAD -- 6040 03:52:24,720 --> 03:52:27,800 >> TELL ME IF YOU DISAGREE. 6041 03:52:27,800 --> 03:52:31,440 >> SOMEONE SAID THAT THE -- THIS 6042 03:52:31,440 --> 03:52:34,000 IS FROM LORI, SHE SAID THAT IT'S 6043 03:52:34,000 --> 03:52:35,240 TRUE OVERALL THINGS HAVEN'T 6044 03:52:35,240 --> 03:52:38,400 CHANGED MUCH OVER THE YEARS WITH 6045 03:52:38,400 --> 03:52:39,520 DIETARY GUIDELINES BUT THE 6046 03:52:39,520 --> 03:52:42,400 MESSAGE IS SIMPLER WITH THE 6047 03:52:42,400 --> 03:52:43,400 PLATE. 6048 03:52:43,400 --> 03:52:49,240 I AGREE IT IS SIMPLER BUT I 6049 03:52:49,240 --> 03:52:53,680 LOOKED TO SEE THE USDA ECONOMIC 6050 03:52:53,680 --> 03:52:54,480 RESEARCH SERVICE REPORTED IN 6051 03:52:54,480 --> 03:52:56,480 2021 THAT STILL WHILE THE 6052 03:52:56,480 --> 03:53:01,200 MESSAGES MAY HAVE GOTTEN SIMPLER 6053 03:53:01,200 --> 03:53:02,360 90% OF AMERICANS FALL SHORT ON 6054 03:53:02,360 --> 03:53:04,760 EATING RIGHT AMOUNT OF 6055 03:53:04,760 --> 03:53:06,160 VEGETABLES DAILY, 80% DON'T EAT 6056 03:53:06,160 --> 03:53:08,040 ENOUGH FRUIT. 6057 03:53:08,040 --> 03:53:09,560 I WOULD CONTEND WE STILL -- 6058 03:53:09,560 --> 03:53:15,160 MAYBE THE MESSAGE IS SIMPLER BUT 6059 03:53:15,160 --> 03:53:15,920 STILL NOT RESONATING, PEOPLE ARE 6060 03:53:15,920 --> 03:53:16,800 NOT DOING THE THINGS THEY OUGHT 6061 03:53:16,800 --> 03:53:21,640 TO BE DOING OR EATING WAIT THEY 6062 03:53:21,640 --> 03:53:24,120 COULD BE EATING TO BE MORE 6063 03:53:24,120 --> 03:53:24,400 HEALTHFUL. 6064 03:53:24,400 --> 03:53:28,400 >> WE'RE COMING TO THE END. 6065 03:53:28,400 --> 03:53:30,240 WE'VE GOT TIME TO DISCUSS MORE 6066 03:53:30,240 --> 03:53:33,240 BUT I WONDERED ONCE AGAIN ARE 6067 03:53:33,240 --> 03:53:34,640 THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS 6068 03:53:34,640 --> 03:53:37,000 THAT EACH OF YOU HAVE FOR THE 6069 03:53:37,000 --> 03:53:41,960 OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PANEL? 6070 03:53:41,960 --> 03:53:43,720 >> I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT 6071 03:53:43,720 --> 03:53:45,360 EVERYONE THINKS, IF WE WERE TO 6072 03:53:45,360 --> 03:53:47,080 PROJECT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 6073 03:53:47,080 --> 03:53:49,360 WHERE DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO 6074 03:53:49,360 --> 03:53:54,560 BE WITH DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS AND 6075 03:53:54,560 --> 03:53:56,640 WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT'S 6076 03:53:56,640 --> 03:53:57,720 HAPPENING, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 6077 03:53:57,720 --> 03:54:00,440 THE FUTURE, WHAT DO WE THINK THE 6078 03:54:00,440 --> 03:54:02,080 COUNTRY IS GOING IN TERMS OF 6079 03:54:02,080 --> 03:54:07,120 THIS WITH AN AGING POPULATION 6080 03:54:07,120 --> 03:54:09,360 AND OBVIOUSLY INFLATIONARY 6081 03:54:09,360 --> 03:54:11,720 PRESSURES RIGHT NOW, BUT THE 6082 03:54:11,720 --> 03:54:12,600 POST-PANDEMIC, ET CETERA, WHERE 6083 03:54:12,600 --> 03:54:17,600 DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE? 6084 03:54:17,600 --> 03:54:18,080 >> BRIAN? 6085 03:54:18,080 --> 03:54:18,960 >> I'M GOING TO START. 6086 03:54:18,960 --> 03:54:20,880 I'M FOND OF SAYING WHEN I GET A 6087 03:54:20,880 --> 03:54:24,000 CHANCE TO TAKE A PODIUM THAT I 6088 03:54:24,000 --> 03:54:25,520 THINK WE'RE MOVING TOWARD A TIME 6089 03:54:25,520 --> 03:54:27,240 WHERE WE'RE NOT SO MUCH RELYING 6090 03:54:27,240 --> 03:54:28,560 ON SUPPLEMENTS TO FILL 6091 03:54:28,560 --> 03:54:30,400 SHORTFALLS BUT TO ACTUALLY KIND 6092 03:54:30,400 --> 03:54:33,080 OF HACK OUR HEALTH IN CERTAIN 6093 03:54:33,080 --> 03:54:34,480 WAYS, AS MORE STUDIES COMING 6094 03:54:34,480 --> 03:54:37,120 OUT, THIS MAY DO THIS OR THAT, 6095 03:54:37,120 --> 03:54:40,440 YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK SOME OF 6096 03:54:40,440 --> 03:54:43,200 THOSE THINGS ARE UP TO THE LEVEL 6097 03:54:43,200 --> 03:54:50,120 OF PROOF THAT PERHAPS SOME 6098 03:54:50,120 --> 03:54:50,960 PEOPLE WANT. 6099 03:54:50,960 --> 03:54:55,280 I'M SURE THE OTHER THREE 6100 03:54:55,280 --> 03:54:56,880 MEMBERS, THE TRADE SIDE, BUT I 6101 03:54:56,880 --> 03:54:58,800 THINK THERE'S A LOT OF 6102 03:54:58,800 --> 03:54:59,720 OPPORTUNITY THERE TO OPTIMIZE 6103 03:54:59,720 --> 03:55:00,040 HEALTH. 6104 03:55:00,040 --> 03:55:04,040 IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT FULFILLING 6105 03:55:04,040 --> 03:55:05,120 DIETARY NEEDS, THERE'S SORT OF 6106 03:55:05,120 --> 03:55:10,000 THIS OTHER USE CASE THAT PEOPLE 6107 03:55:10,000 --> 03:55:11,160 ARE MORE ONTO. 6108 03:55:11,160 --> 03:55:12,480 PEOPLE STILL AREN'T MEETING 6109 03:55:12,480 --> 03:55:14,720 DAILY NUTRITIONAL NEEDS. 6110 03:55:14,720 --> 03:55:16,600 THERE'S A HUGE UNDERNOURISHMENT 6111 03:55:16,600 --> 03:55:17,320 PROBLEM TOO. 6112 03:55:17,320 --> 03:55:18,760 THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP. 6113 03:55:18,760 --> 03:55:20,880 PEOPLE ARE TAKING MORE OF A ROLE 6114 03:55:20,880 --> 03:55:22,360 IN THEIR OWN SELF-CARE. 6115 03:55:22,360 --> 03:55:25,680 THEY ARE FINDING THESE PRODUCTS 6116 03:55:25,680 --> 03:55:28,640 TO BE USEFUL. 6117 03:55:28,640 --> 03:55:33,840 I KEEP THINKING THE SQUEEZE OUT 6118 03:55:33,840 --> 03:55:35,360 THE BAD ACTORS, WHY MANDATORY 6119 03:55:35,360 --> 03:55:37,520 LISTING IS IMPORTANT, WE KNOW 6120 03:55:37,520 --> 03:55:39,760 THERE'S SOME SKETCHY PRODUCTS 6121 03:55:39,760 --> 03:55:40,440 OUT THERE. 6122 03:55:40,440 --> 03:55:42,360 I HATE TO HAVE TO BE CALLED BY 6123 03:55:42,360 --> 03:55:50,200 SALLY, YOU AND YOUR PEERS, 6124 03:55:50,200 --> 03:55:52,160 YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE ARE BAD 6125 03:55:52,160 --> 03:55:53,320 PRODUCTS, YES, THERE ARE BAD 6126 03:55:53,320 --> 03:55:54,400 PRODUCTS, YOU NEED TO KNOW THERE 6127 03:55:54,400 --> 03:55:55,960 ARE BAD PRODUCTS AND I NEED TO 6128 03:55:55,960 --> 03:55:57,240 EDUCATE YOU HOW TO STAY AWAY 6129 03:55:57,240 --> 03:55:57,800 FROM THEM. 6130 03:55:57,800 --> 03:56:00,840 IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE DIDN'T 6131 03:56:00,840 --> 03:56:05,120 KEEP HAVING THAT CONVERSATION. 6132 03:56:05,120 --> 03:56:06,240 >> OTHER COMMENTS? 6133 03:56:06,240 --> 03:56:06,480 JANSSEN? 6134 03:56:06,480 --> 03:56:08,480 >> I WOULD SAY IN FIVE YEARS IT 6135 03:56:08,480 --> 03:56:12,080 DEPENDS ON HOW THE FDA AND FTC 6136 03:56:12,080 --> 03:56:13,240 TREAT SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, 6137 03:56:13,240 --> 03:56:16,600 WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THESE 6138 03:56:16,600 --> 03:56:18,480 CLAIMS THAT AREN'T SUBSTANTIATED 6139 03:56:18,480 --> 03:56:23,920 OR DISEASE CLAIMS, ON FACEBOOK, 6140 03:56:23,920 --> 03:56:25,800 INSTAGRAM, WHATEVER THE NEXT BIG 6141 03:56:25,800 --> 03:56:27,000 PLATFORM WILL BE. 6142 03:56:27,000 --> 03:56:30,160 FTC RECENTLY SENT OUT A BUNCH OF 6143 03:56:30,160 --> 03:56:30,960 LETTERS TO DIETARY SUPPLEMENT 6144 03:56:30,960 --> 03:56:35,880 COMPANIES AND C.C.'ED SOCIAL 6145 03:56:35,880 --> 03:56:37,480 MEDIA COMPANIES. 6146 03:56:37,480 --> 03:56:39,160 AND NOT SURE, LITERALLY 6147 03:56:39,160 --> 03:56:40,880 EXPLAINED WHY, BUT IT WAS 6148 03:56:40,880 --> 03:56:42,240 INTERESTING TO SEE AND IT WILL 6149 03:56:42,240 --> 03:56:45,240 BE INTERESTING TO SEE IN THE 6150 03:56:45,240 --> 03:56:46,840 FUTURE HOW THESE COMPANIES CAN 6151 03:56:46,840 --> 03:56:47,920 BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE 6152 03:56:47,920 --> 03:56:54,720 CLAIMS THAT ARE MADE ON THEIR 6153 03:56:54,720 --> 03:56:54,960 PLATFORMS. 6154 03:56:54,960 --> 03:56:58,200 >> I WOULD SAY JUST WITH THE 6155 03:56:58,200 --> 03:56:59,000 AGING POPULATION, I THINK THAT'S 6156 03:56:59,000 --> 03:57:01,160 DRIVING A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE 6157 03:57:01,160 --> 03:57:01,440 INDUSTRY. 6158 03:57:01,440 --> 03:57:04,880 COVID DROVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN 6159 03:57:04,880 --> 03:57:06,160 SUPPLEMENTS BUT ASIDE WE DO A 6160 03:57:06,160 --> 03:57:07,480 SURVEY EVERY YEAR AND WE ASK 6161 03:57:07,480 --> 03:57:08,480 PEOPLE HOW MANY SUPPLEMENTS THEY 6162 03:57:08,480 --> 03:57:10,080 ARE USING, WHAT THEY ARE USING, 6163 03:57:10,080 --> 03:57:15,440 ALL THAT STUFF, THEIR AGE. 6164 03:57:15,440 --> 03:57:18,280 AND 25% OF OUR READERS USE TEN 6165 03:57:18,280 --> 03:57:20,160 OR MORE SUPPLEMENTS DAILY. 6166 03:57:20,160 --> 03:57:23,680 AND OUR READERS TEND TO BE 45 TO 6167 03:57:23,680 --> 03:57:25,720 85 YEARS OLD. 6168 03:57:25,720 --> 03:57:27,320 SO, CLEARLY THE MARKET IS GOING 6169 03:57:27,320 --> 03:57:30,320 TO CONTINUE IN MY OPINION TO 6170 03:57:30,320 --> 03:57:31,400 GROW AS PEOPLE AGE. 6171 03:57:31,400 --> 03:57:33,280 I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 23 6172 03:57:33,280 --> 03:57:33,480 YEARS. 6173 03:57:33,480 --> 03:57:36,000 WE'VE SEEN VERY LITTLE CHANGE 6174 03:57:36,000 --> 03:57:36,920 FROM REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE, IN 6175 03:57:36,920 --> 03:57:37,440 23 YEARS. 6176 03:57:37,440 --> 03:57:41,840 ALL THAT REALLY CAME OUT WERE 6177 03:57:41,840 --> 03:57:49,200 THE GMPs, PROMISED EARLIER. 6178 03:57:49,200 --> 03:57:50,880 SO I'M NOT SAYING IN THE 6179 03:57:50,880 --> 03:57:51,360 REGULATORY SIDE. 6180 03:57:51,360 --> 03:57:52,880 >> IF I COULD JUMP IN, YOU KNOW, 6181 03:57:52,880 --> 03:57:55,200 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT 6182 03:57:55,200 --> 03:57:56,960 OUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM 6183 03:57:56,960 --> 03:57:59,240 THE WATCHDOGS AS YOU CALL THEM, 6184 03:57:59,240 --> 03:58:00,440 AND WHEN I FIRST STARTED DOING 6185 03:58:00,440 --> 03:58:02,600 THESE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO 6186 03:58:02,600 --> 03:58:03,800 BE AT ODDS, AND EVERYTHING WE 6187 03:58:03,800 --> 03:58:05,760 WERE GOING TO DISAGREE ON BUT I 6188 03:58:05,760 --> 03:58:07,400 DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. 6189 03:58:07,400 --> 03:58:09,000 I THINK FOR A LOT OF THE THINGS 6190 03:58:09,000 --> 03:58:11,280 THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 6191 03:58:11,280 --> 03:58:12,400 RESPONSIBLE PLAYERS IN THE 6192 03:58:12,400 --> 03:58:14,600 INDUSTRY ARE WORKING TO TRY TO 6193 03:58:14,600 --> 03:58:17,440 ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS. 6194 03:58:17,440 --> 03:58:19,480 WHETHER IT'S GRASS PROCESS OR 6195 03:58:19,480 --> 03:58:21,520 ENSURING SAFETY OF SUPPLEMENTS, 6196 03:58:21,520 --> 03:58:22,440 THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE'S A LOT 6197 03:58:22,440 --> 03:58:27,840 OF GOOD TRIALS GOING ON WITH 6198 03:58:27,840 --> 03:58:28,120 SUPPLEMENTS. 6199 03:58:28,120 --> 03:58:31,040 WE'VE TALKED, I'M SURE YOU'VE 6200 03:58:31,040 --> 03:58:32,760 TALKED DURING THIS PRACTICUM OF 6201 03:58:32,760 --> 03:58:34,600 AMOUNT OF SUPPLEMENT USE, 80% I 6202 03:58:34,600 --> 03:58:37,720 THINK, BRIAN NOTED. 6203 03:58:37,720 --> 03:58:40,360 IT'S IMPORTANT WE ALL SHARE THE 6204 03:58:40,360 --> 03:58:43,600 FDA'S GOALS HERE OF SAFETY, 6205 03:58:43,600 --> 03:58:44,960 PRODUCT INTEGRITY, AND INFORMED 6206 03:58:44,960 --> 03:58:45,760 CONSUMER DECISION MAKING AND I 6207 03:58:45,760 --> 03:58:48,320 THINK, YOU KNOW, THE TRADE 6208 03:58:48,320 --> 03:58:50,160 ASSOCIATIONS ALL SHARE THOSE 6209 03:58:50,160 --> 03:58:52,760 GOALS WITH FDA AND WE NEED TO 6210 03:58:52,760 --> 03:58:53,840 KEEP WORKING ON THOSE AND I 6211 03:58:53,840 --> 03:58:54,640 THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE 6212 03:58:54,640 --> 03:59:00,360 PROGRESS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 6213 03:59:00,360 --> 03:59:02,680 >> THANK . 6214 03:59:02,680 --> 03:59:04,200 WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE OUT AND I 6215 03:59:04,200 --> 03:59:10,080 WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE CLOSING 6216 03:59:10,080 --> 03:59:10,440 REMARKS. 6217 03:59:10,440 --> 03:59:14,280 ONE FOR AUDIENCE PARTICIPANTS. 6218 03:59:14,280 --> 03:59:16,000 THIS SESSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A 6219 03:59:16,000 --> 03:59:21,160 FEATURE OF THE DIETARY 6220 03:59:21,160 --> 03:59:22,200 SUPPLEMENT RESEARCH PRACTICUM, 6221 03:59:22,200 --> 03:59:23,560 AND IT'S NEVER INTENDED TO BE A 6222 03:59:23,560 --> 03:59:25,200 GOTCHA KIND OF SESSION. 6223 03:59:25,200 --> 03:59:27,640 AND IT ISN'T. 6224 03:59:27,640 --> 03:59:29,280 THE DISCUSSION TODAY DISPLAYS 6225 03:59:29,280 --> 03:59:29,600 THAT. 6226 03:59:29,600 --> 03:59:32,640 I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR FINAL 6227 03:59:32,640 --> 03:59:33,480 COMMENTS THERE, JAY. 6228 03:59:33,480 --> 03:59:36,480 PEOPLE ARE ALL TRYING TO DO THE 6229 03:59:36,480 --> 03:59:38,040 RIGHT THING. 6230 03:59:38,040 --> 03:59:38,880 THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT 6231 03:59:38,880 --> 03:59:40,760 THEY HAVE AND DIFFERENT TOOLS 6232 03:59:40,760 --> 03:59:44,360 THAT THEY HAVE FOR BEING ABLE TO 6233 03:59:44,360 --> 03:59:47,000 WORK EFFECTIVELY IN THE DIETARY 6234 03:59:47,000 --> 03:59:47,840 SUPPLEMENT ARENA. 6235 03:59:47,840 --> 03:59:50,720 AND WHAT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS 6236 03:59:50,720 --> 03:59:53,480 VALUABLE WAS FOR YOU, THE 6237 03:59:53,480 --> 03:59:54,960 AUDIENCE, TO SEE THIS 6238 03:59:54,960 --> 03:59:56,080 CONVERSATION AMONG PEOPLE WHO 6239 03:59:56,080 --> 03:59:59,200 REALLY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT 6240 03:59:59,200 --> 04:00:03,560 THING, AND HAVE IN SOME AREAS 6241 04:00:03,560 --> 04:00:04,280 SOMEWHAT VIGOROUS DISAGREEMENTS 6242 04:00:04,280 --> 04:00:06,480 BUT THIS CAN ALL BE HANDLED, 6243 04:00:06,480 --> 04:00:10,040 WHAT WAS IT YOU SAID, SALLY, AT 6244 04:00:10,040 --> 04:00:11,800 THE END OF YOUR SLIDE? 6245 04:00:11,800 --> 04:00:14,120 BE TRUE TO YOURSELF, ALSO BE 6246 04:00:14,120 --> 04:00:14,520 KIND. 6247 04:00:14,520 --> 04:00:16,560 I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S BEING 6248 04:00:16,560 --> 04:00:20,040 DISPLAYED WITH THIS KIND OF 6249 04:00:20,040 --> 04:00:20,680 DISCUSSION. 6250 04:00:20,680 --> 04:00:23,200 I'M GLAD I HAD THE CHANCE TO BE 6251 04:00:23,200 --> 04:00:24,800 WITH YOU AGAIN. 6252 04:00:24,800 --> 04:00:25,880 AND WISH YOU ALL WELL. 6253 04:00:25,880 --> 04:00:28,600 I'M NOW GOING TO TURN THIS BACK 6254 04:00:28,600 --> 04:00:32,240 OVER TO JAIME AND THE ODS STAFF 6255 04:00:32,240 --> 04:00:33,200 FOR CLOSING IT OUT. 6256 04:00:33,200 --> 04:00:35,760 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FOLKS. 6257 04:00:35,760 --> 04:00:36,840 >> THANK YOU, DR. COATES. 6258 04:00:36,840 --> 04:00:39,080 THANK YOU TO ALL THE PANELISTS. 6259 04:00:39,080 --> 04:00:41,360 THAT WAS A GREAT, GREAT SESSION. 6260 04:00:41,360 --> 04:00:46,160 I'M JUST GOING TO CLOSE THIS OUT 6261 04:00:46,160 --> 04:00:48,320 SO I'M GOING TO DO A QUICK 6262 04:00:48,320 --> 04:00:49,200 LITTLE PRESENTATION. 6263 04:00:49,200 --> 04:00:49,720 ONE SECOND. 6264 04:00:49,720 --> 04:00:52,880 JAMES, DO YOU SEE MY SLIDES? 6265 04:00:52,880 --> 04:00:54,680 >> WE DO NOT YET SEE YOUR 6266 04:00:54,680 --> 04:00:54,920 SLIDES. 6267 04:00:54,920 --> 04:01:02,000 LOOKS LIKE IT'S STARTING UP NOW. 6268 04:01:02,000 --> 04:01:03,440 >> OKAY. 6269 04:01:03,440 --> 04:01:03,760 WONDERFUL. 6270 04:01:03,760 --> 04:01:07,200 EVERYTHING LOOK OKAY? 6271 04:01:07,200 --> 04:01:07,520 NO. 6272 04:01:07,520 --> 04:01:10,960 >> I SEE YOUR TITLE SLIDE. 6273 04:01:10,960 --> 04:01:15,840 6274 04:01:15,840 --> 04:01:18,200 >> DO YOU SEE A FULL SCREEN? 6275 04:01:18,200 --> 04:01:20,000 >> YES, I SEE A FULL SCREEN. 6276 04:01:20,000 --> 04:01:22,280 >> OKAY, GREAT. 6277 04:01:22,280 --> 04:01:23,320 ALL RIGHT. 6278 04:01:23,320 --> 04:01:25,560 SO, I JUST WANT TO THANK 6279 04:01:25,560 --> 04:01:26,520 EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING. 6280 04:01:26,520 --> 04:01:28,760 I HOPE THAT YOU FOUND THE 6281 04:01:28,760 --> 04:01:29,760 PRESENTATIONS INFORMATIVE. 6282 04:01:29,760 --> 04:01:32,760 AND THAT YOU'LL USE THE 6283 04:01:32,760 --> 04:01:34,800 INFORMATION GOING FORWARD IN 6284 04:01:34,800 --> 04:01:35,520 YOUR WORK. 6285 04:01:35,520 --> 04:01:37,160 THE FIRST DAY PROVIDED 6286 04:01:37,160 --> 04:01:37,880 INFORMATION ON DIETARY 6287 04:01:37,880 --> 04:01:39,480 SUPPLEMENT USE IN THE UNITED 6288 04:01:39,480 --> 04:01:40,760 STATES AND REALLY HIGHLIGHTED 6289 04:01:40,760 --> 04:01:42,440 THE HIGH USAGE OF THESE PRODUCTS 6290 04:01:42,440 --> 04:01:45,000 AMONG THE U.S. POPULATION. 6291 04:01:45,000 --> 04:01:46,400 FOR EXAMPLE, OVER HALF OF ALL 6292 04:01:46,400 --> 04:01:49,680 U.S. ADULTS TAKE AT LEAST ONE 6293 04:01:49,680 --> 04:01:50,360 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT. 6294 04:01:50,360 --> 04:01:52,520 70% OR MORE OF U.S. ADULTS OVER 6295 04:01:52,520 --> 04:01:56,160 60 ARE TAKING AT LEAST ONE 6296 04:01:56,160 --> 04:01:56,720 SUPPLEMENT. 6297 04:01:56,720 --> 04:01:59,400 THIS NUMBER IS HIGHER IN CERTAIN 6298 04:01:59,400 --> 04:02:00,640 SUBGROUPS LIKE CANCER SURVIVORS. 6299 04:02:00,640 --> 04:02:02,640 WE HEARD ABOUT WHY PEOPLE ARE 6300 04:02:02,640 --> 04:02:04,920 USING SUPPLEMENTS. 6301 04:02:04,920 --> 04:02:07,400 WE HAD GREAT PRESENTATIONS ON 6302 04:02:07,400 --> 04:02:09,720 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT REGULATION. 6303 04:02:09,720 --> 04:02:11,480 DAY 2 FOCUSED ON RESEARCH ON 6304 04:02:11,480 --> 04:02:12,520 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT AND REALLY 6305 04:02:12,520 --> 04:02:13,600 HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE ISSUES 6306 04:02:13,600 --> 04:02:15,640 THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN 6307 04:02:15,640 --> 04:02:17,480 WE'RE STUDYING THEM. 6308 04:02:17,480 --> 04:02:19,400 AND THEN WE HAD SPECIAL 6309 04:02:19,400 --> 04:02:23,400 PRESENTATIONS, BOTH YESTERDAY 6310 04:02:23,400 --> 04:02:24,800 AND TODAY. 6311 04:02:24,800 --> 04:02:25,720 >> I'M ONLY SEEING THE MAIN 6312 04:02:25,720 --> 04:02:27,120 TITLE SLIDE. 6313 04:02:27,120 --> 04:02:28,880 I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE SHOWING 6314 04:02:28,880 --> 04:02:29,840 MULTIPLE SLIDES. 6315 04:02:29,840 --> 04:02:32,720 >> NO, THAT'S FINE. 6316 04:02:32,720 --> 04:02:33,600 >> OKAY, GREAT. 6317 04:02:33,600 --> 04:02:35,880 >> AND THEN LET'S SEE, WE HAD 6318 04:02:35,880 --> 04:02:37,520 THAT GREAT DISCUSSION FROM THE 6319 04:02:37,520 --> 04:02:40,280 STAKEHOLDERS THAT I THINK GAVE 6320 04:02:40,280 --> 04:02:41,120 US DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. 6321 04:02:41,120 --> 04:02:45,360 AND WITH THIS I WANT TO MENTION 6322 04:02:45,360 --> 04:02:48,840 THAT THIS ENTIRE PRACTICUM HAS 6323 04:02:48,840 --> 04:02:49,600 BEEN RECORDED. 6324 04:02:49,600 --> 04:02:52,000 LINKS WILL BE SEND TO ATTENDEES 6325 04:02:52,000 --> 04:02:53,080 TO REWATCH OR WATCH SESSIONS 6326 04:02:53,080 --> 04:02:55,240 THAT YOU MAY HAVE MISSED. 6327 04:02:55,240 --> 04:02:56,680 PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHARE THE 6328 04:02:56,680 --> 04:02:58,200 LINKS WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES AND 6329 04:02:58,200 --> 04:03:01,720 ANYONE WHO YOU THINK WOULD BE 6330 04:03:01,720 --> 04:03:03,000 INTERESTED. 6331 04:03:03,000 --> 04:03:05,880 I MENTIONED IN MY INTRODUCTION 6332 04:03:05,880 --> 04:03:09,240 THAT OFFICE OF DIETARY 6333 04:03:09,240 --> 04:03:12,680 SUPPLEMENTS' MISSION IS TO 6334 04:03:12,680 --> 04:03:14,640 STRENGTHEN, WITH A MAIN GOAL TO 6335 04:03:14,640 --> 04:03:16,160 MAKE THE MOST UP-TO-DATE 6336 04:03:16,160 --> 04:03:18,880 SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE ABOUT 6337 04:03:18,880 --> 04:03:19,880 DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS PUBLICLY 6338 04:03:19,880 --> 04:03:20,160 AVAILABLE. 6339 04:03:20,160 --> 04:03:21,680 PLEASE USE US AS A RESOURCE. 6340 04:03:21,680 --> 04:03:23,600 WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE, IF YOU 6341 04:03:23,600 --> 04:03:25,240 HAVEN'T ALREADY, TAKE A LOOK AT 6342 04:03:25,240 --> 04:03:25,680 OUR WEBSITE. 6343 04:03:25,680 --> 04:03:29,080 THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT 6344 04:03:29,080 --> 04:03:30,600 RESOURCES AVAILABLE FROM THE 6345 04:03:30,600 --> 04:03:32,320 OVER 100 FACTSHEETS ON DIETARY 6346 04:03:32,320 --> 04:03:34,640 SUPPLEMENT INGREDIENTS AND TYPES 6347 04:03:34,640 --> 04:03:37,760 OF SUPPLEMENTS, AS WELL AS 6348 04:03:37,760 --> 04:03:38,800 DATABASE ON DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS, 6349 04:03:38,800 --> 04:03:41,440 DIETARY SUPPLEMENT LABEL 6350 04:03:41,440 --> 04:03:45,920 DATABASE WHICH NOW HAS OVER 6351 04:03:45,920 --> 04:03:50,040 140,000 PRODUCT LABELS. 6352 04:03:50,040 --> 04:03:52,960 CHECK OUT THE PROGRAMS AT ODS 6353 04:03:52,960 --> 04:03:55,000 AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND 6354 04:03:55,000 --> 04:03:56,040 SEMINARS, CONFERENCES AND 6355 04:03:56,040 --> 04:03:57,480 WORKSHOPS WE HOSTED AVAILABLE 6356 04:03:57,480 --> 04:04:00,600 FOR YOU TO VIEW. 6357 04:04:00,600 --> 04:04:02,000 ODS PUBLICATIONS WITH LINKS ARE 6358 04:04:02,000 --> 04:04:04,240 ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. 6359 04:04:04,240 --> 04:04:06,440 RESEARCH ON A HOST OF DIFFERENT 6360 04:04:06,440 --> 04:04:07,640 TOPICS RELATED TO DIETARY 6361 04:04:07,640 --> 04:04:10,280 SUPPLEMENTS, AND THESE MAY BE OF 6362 04:04:10,280 --> 04:04:11,760 GREAT INTEREST TO YOU. 6363 04:04:11,760 --> 04:04:15,080 PLEASE ALSO SIGN UP FOR OUR 6364 04:04:15,080 --> 04:04:15,560 LISTSERV. 6365 04:04:15,560 --> 04:04:17,680 YOU WILL RECEIVE NEWSLETTERS AND 6366 04:04:17,680 --> 04:04:19,040 OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM ODS AND 6367 04:04:19,040 --> 04:04:20,800 HERE IS THE BARCODE.CA 6368 04:04:20,800 --> 04:04:21,400 YOSCAN IT. 6369 04:04:21,400 --> 04:04:22,640 IT WILL TAKE YOU RIGHT TO THE 6370 04:04:22,640 --> 04:04:24,480 PLACE YOU CAN SIGN UP. 6371 04:04:24,480 --> 04:04:27,800 AND FINALLY I'D LIKE TO THANK 6372 04:04:27,800 --> 04:04:28,840 ALL OF OUR PRESENTERS, 6373 04:04:28,840 --> 04:04:30,600 MODERATORS, OF COURSE JAMES WHO 6374 04:04:30,600 --> 04:04:33,200 RAN THE WEBEX AND KEPT THIS 6375 04:04:33,200 --> 04:04:34,520 PRACTICUM RUNNING SMOOTHLY. 6376 04:04:34,520 --> 04:04:36,240 I THANK OUR ODS COMMUNICATIONS 6377 04:04:36,240 --> 04:04:41,320 TEAM FOR PROMOTING THE 6378 04:04:41,320 --> 04:04:42,920 PRACTICUM, SPECIAL THANKS TO 6379 04:04:42,920 --> 04:04:47,680 HELPING WITH LOW LOGISTICS AND 6380 04:04:47,680 --> 04:04:55,560 ACTING DIRECTOR JOE BETZ, AND TO 6381 04:04:55,560 --> 04:04:56,720 ATTENDEES AND FOR THOUGHTFUL 6382 04:04:56,720 --> 04:04:57,000 QUESTIONS. 6383 04:04:57,000 --> 04:04:58,360 WE HOPE YOU TAKE BACK KNOWLEDGE 6384 04:04:58,360 --> 04:05:01,200 YOU GAINED AND APPLY TO YOUR 6385 04:05:01,200 --> 04:05:01,600 WORK OR RESEARCH. 6386 04:05:01,600 --> 04:05:02,720 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, 6387 04:05:02,720 --> 04:05:04,760 PLEASE REACH OUT TO US. 6388 04:05:04,760 --> 04:05:06,680 E-MAIL IS RIGHT HERE. 6389 04:05:06,680 --> 04:05:10,920 WITH THAT, THIS CONCLUDES THE 6390 04:05:10,920 --> 04:05:11,480 2022 MARY FRANCES PICCIANO 6391 04:05:11,480 --> 04:05:12,000 DIETARY RESEARCH PRACTICUM. 6392 04:05:12,000 --> 00:00:00,000 THANK YOU.