1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,640 WELCOME TO DAY TWO 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,640 THANK YOU FOR THE RICH 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:11,600 DISCUSSIONS YESTERDAY. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:18,200 I START WITH AN UPDATE ON 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,080 FOLLOW-UP FROM THE BREAKOUT 6 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:20,760 ROOMS YESTERDAY. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,240 THERE WAS NO REPORT BACK. 8 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:23,600 THAT WAS THE PRINCIPLE. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,800 WE CAPTURED ALL THE BOARDS THAT 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,760 WERE IN THE ROOMS AND THERE IS 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,960 WAY TOO MUCH TO SYNTHESIZE IN 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,680 ANY MEANINGFUL WAY THIS MORNING 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,800 BUT WILL WORK WITH THE 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,800 MODERATORS FROM EACH ROOM TO 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,440 COME BACK WITH A SYNTHESIS AFTER 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,360 THE MEETING. 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:41,880 DON'T WORRY. 18 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,760 THE WORK THAT WAS DONE YESTERDAY 19 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,560 IS ABSOLUTELY CAPTURED AND WILL 20 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,480 BE SYNTHESIZED AND DISCUSSED 21 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:50,720 FURTHER. 22 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,160 SIMILARLY WE'LL GO INTO OTHER 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,800 EXERCISES THIS MORNING AND THE 24 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,480 GOOD THING ABOUT THE SETUP THIS 25 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,200 MORNING IS LUNCH IS RIGHT AFTER 26 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,680 THE BREAKOUT ROOMS SO YOU'LL 27 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,760 HAVE THE ABILITY TO SORT OF WALK 28 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,600 AROUND THE BREAKOUT ROOMS IF YOU 29 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,240 WANT TO SEE HOW THE SITUATION 30 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,120 HAS EVOLVED SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN 31 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:11,960 THE FIRST ONE. 32 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,960 SO YESTERDAY WE REALLY FOCUSSED 33 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:16,480 ON INDIVIDUALS. 34 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,360 WE TALKED ABOUT MOTIVATIONS OF 35 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:18,640 INDIVIDUALS. 36 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,040 WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY 37 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,480 INTERACT IN NETWORK. 38 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:28,320 AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE UP 39 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:34,040 A LEVEL AND TRY TO STE THE 40 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,760 CONTEXT IN WHICH THEY OPERATE. 41 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,760 THIS MORNING WE'LL FOCUS ON 42 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,240 INSTITUTIONS AND THIS AFTERNOON 43 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,480 WE'LL GO ONE MORE LEVEL UP AND 44 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,720 LOOK AT THE SYSTEMS. 45 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,960 THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND 46 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:46,000 THE DAY AND HAVE THESE DIFFERENT 47 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,600 LENSES AND LEVELS. 48 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,600 THE CONTEXT IS EXTREMELY 49 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:50,840 IMPORTANT. 50 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,160 IT'S DETERMINANT FOR THE 51 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,760 IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE 52 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:57,880 HAPPENING. 53 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,240 AND I WAS REMINDED -- REFLECTING 54 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,480 ON THE KEY NOTE YESTERDAY. 55 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,760 THERE WORE TWO THINGS THAT STUCK 56 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,000 WITH ME. 57 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,600 ONE WAS REALLY THERE ARE NO 58 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,040 NEUTRAL INTERACTIONS. 59 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:16,000 NON-ADOPTERS ARE CONTRAVEILING 60 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,760 INFLUENCES AND THAT IS IMPORTANT 61 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,360 AND THEN THE OTHER CONCEPT WAS 62 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,160 THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT 63 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,040 SPECIAL PEOPLE IT'S ABOUT 64 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,800 SPECIAL PLACES IN THE NETWORK 65 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,960 WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE AND WHAT 66 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,760 IS IT ABOUT THE SPECIAL PLACES 67 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:38,600 WHERE CLUSTER OF INDIVIDUALS CAN 68 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:46,120 BE SHELTERS FROM CONTRAVALING 69 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,560 INFLUENCES AND OTHER CLUSTERS 70 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,920 WHERE IT CAN SPREAD. 71 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:53,400 THESE CONCEPTS I THINK ARE 72 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 USEFUL TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE ARE 73 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,520 TRYING TO DERIVE ACTIONABLE 74 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,440 INSIGHT FROM THE MEETING TODAY 75 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,400 AND AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT THE 76 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,680 CLUSTERS MIGHT MEAN FOR THE 77 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,720 COMMUNITIES OF RIGOR CHAMPION WE 78 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:17,000 WANT TO SUPPORT. 79 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,560 I WAS REMINDED LAST NIGHT THERE 80 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,120 ARE DIFFERENT KINDS OF 81 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:22,440 INSTITUTIONS. 82 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,520 WE'RE FOCUSSED ON ONE TYPE OF 83 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,520 INSTITUTIONS BUT THERE ARE THE 84 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,200 HEAVILY NIH-RELIANT RESEARCH 85 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,640 INSTITUTIONS AND THEN THERE ARE 86 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:34,400 INSTITUTION ARE UNDERGRAD 87 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:34,880 FOCUSSED, FOR EXAMPLE. 88 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,760 WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE 89 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,520 DIFFERENT GROUPS AND DIFFERENT 90 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,680 TYPES OF INSTITUTIONS IN THE 91 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,600 ROOM. 92 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SPEAK 93 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,560 UP FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND 94 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,520 DRAW THE DIFFERENCES AND THE 95 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,160 IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTICS OF 96 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,760 THESE TYPES OF INSTITUTIONS. 97 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,560 THERE WILL BE THREE OR FOUR 98 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,360 THEMES THIS MORNING WE WILL 99 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,680 EXPLORE. 100 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,320 LIKE YESTERDAY WE'LL START BY A 101 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,240 PANEL DISCUSSION AND THEN GO TO 102 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,960 THE BREAKOUT ROOMS. 103 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,360 THE FIRST THEME SO THE THEMES 104 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:10,560 ARE TOOLS, NORMS AND REWARDS. 105 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,560 SO AROUND TOOLS IT'S HOW DO WE 106 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,400 ENABLE THIS IN RESEARCH AND WHAT 107 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,560 ARE THE TOOLS THAT EXIST AND HOW 108 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,720 CAN THEY BE IMPLEMENTED TO 109 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,720 FACILITATE THE IMPROVED 110 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,000 BEHAVIORS WE WANT TO SEE AND HOW 111 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,240 CAN WE CREATE AN EASY PATH FOR 112 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,320 PEOPLE WHO ARE DECIDING TO ADOPT 113 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,920 AN IMPROVEMENT. 114 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,840 IT MAY NOT BE THE EASIEST PATH 115 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,560 BUT LET'S NOT MAKE IT THE MOST 116 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,040 BURDENSOME AND CURRENTLY THAT'S 117 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,560 OFTEN THE CASE TO DO THE RIGHT 118 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,680 THING IS THE HARDER THING TO DO. 119 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,560 WE'VE HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE 120 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,000 TOOLS YESTERDAY AND WE WILL HEAR 121 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,680 MORE TODAY AND ALSO DISCUSS HOW 122 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,480 THE TOOLS CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. 123 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,600 SECOND THEME IS AROUND NORMS. 124 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,840 NORMS THAT EXIST IN THE CONTEXT 125 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,280 IN WHICH RESEARCHERS ARE WORKING 126 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:02,600 AND HOW THE NORMS CAN BE 127 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,320 ADJUSTED OR INFLUENCED TO WHICH 128 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,600 MECHANISMS AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO 129 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,560 THINK OF A DIFFERENT UNIT AND 130 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,640 LAB UNIT AND HARD NORMS AND 131 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,920 MAINTAINED IN LABS THROUGH PEER 132 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,480 NETWORKS, THROUGH MENTORS. 133 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,200 HOW ARE THESE IMPORTANT AND HOW 134 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,640 CAN WE HELP INFLUENCE THEM. 135 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,560 AND THE THIRD IS AROUND REWARDS 136 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:32,480 AND THAT'S AROUND THE FORMAL 137 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,400 EVALUATION SYSTEM AND CARRIER 138 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,080 PROGRESSION THAT EXISTS AT THE 139 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,800 INSTITUTIONAL LEVEL. 140 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,560 DIFFERENT UNITS OF SCALE THERE 141 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,840 BUT REALLY LOOKING AT THESE 142 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:44,040 THREE MECHANISMS AND WE'RE 143 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,440 LOOKING AT TOOLS, NORMS AND 144 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,280 REWARDS BOTH IN TERMS OF 145 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:50,280 CREATING POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT 146 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:53,480 AND POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT BUT 147 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,320 ALSO REMOVING OBSTACLES WHERE 148 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,040 THEY EXIST CURRENTLY. 149 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,320 THESE WILL BE THE THEMES THIS 150 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,120 MORNING. 151 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,080 THIS AFTERNOON WE'LL MOVE TO 152 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,080 MORE SYSTEMS LEVEL AND HOW WE 153 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,960 CAN WORK TOGETHER AND WHAT ARE 154 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,560 OTHER STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE 155 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,520 IMPORTANT AND ANOTHER THING I 156 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:19,040 WAS REMINDED OF LAST NIGHT WE 157 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,880 DON'T KNOW WHICH INTERVENTIONS 158 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,560 IMPROVE RESEARCH. 159 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,760 WE HAVE A GOOD HUNCH. 160 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,960 WE THINK SOME ARE DEMONSTRATED 161 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,200 IN SOME CONTEXT BUT IF WE ARE 162 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,040 ALL ABOUT RIGOR WE ARE TO APPLY 163 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,200 RIGOR TO THE TYPES OF 164 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,840 INTERVENTIONS WE ARE TALKING 165 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:38,160 ABOUT TO IMPROVE RESEARCH AS 166 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:38,560 WELL. 167 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,960 SO REALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT 168 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,720 ARE GOING TO BE THE SYSTEMS THAT 169 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,240 WILL ALLOW US TO TEST RIGOROUSLY 170 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,560 INTERVENTIONS AND HELP 171 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,960 DEMONSTRATE THEIR EFFECTIVENESS 172 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,840 AND SPREAD THAT WAY AS WELL. 173 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:58,560 THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE GO 174 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,680 THROUGH THE DAY. 175 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,040 I'D LIKE TO INVITE ON THE STAGE 176 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,880 THE PANELIST FOR THE SESSION 177 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:06,360 THIS MORNING. 178 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,440 THE SESSION WILL BE MODERATED BY 179 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,560 JUAN PABLO ALPERIN FROM FRASER 180 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,000 UNIVERSITY. 181 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,480 HE IS ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR IN THE 182 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,000 PUBLISHING PROGRAM AND 183 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,600 CO-SCIENTIFIC DIRECTOR OF THE 184 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920 PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE PROJECT AND 185 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,720 CO-DIRECTOR OF THE SCHOLARLY 186 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,480 COMMUNICATIONS LAB AND I WOULD 187 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,080 REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOU 188 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,520 HAVEN'T ALREADY, TO REALLY CHECK 189 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,800 THE AMAZING WORK THAT THEY'VE 190 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,240 DONE ACTUALLY AT THE LABS AROUND 191 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,840 THE RPT, REVIEW, PROMOTION AND 192 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,920 TENURE COMMITTEE IN THE U.S. AND 193 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,360 CANADA. 194 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,280 THERE'S A REALLY SOBERING 195 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,600 ANALYSIS AND I HOPE WE'LL HEAR 196 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,000 SOME OF THAT TODAY FROM JUAN 197 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,520 PABLO. 198 00:07:54,520 --> 00:08:00,840 SO THANK YOU. 199 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,560 >> I'VE BEEN ASKED TO REMIND 200 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,520 EVERYONE TO MAINTAIN SIX FEET 201 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,560 SOCIAL DISTANCING IN THE 202 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,720 AUDITORIUM WHERE POSSIBLE. 203 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:18,920 THANK YOU. 204 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,400 >> I WEAR THREE HATS. 205 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,480 ONE AS AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR 206 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,000 AND DIRECTOR OF THE PROJECT I'VE 207 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,760 BEEN INVOLVED WITH SINCE BEFORE 208 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,280 I HAD MY MASTER'S GOING ON 17 209 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,880 YEARS NOW AND NOW CO-SCIENTIFIC 210 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,040 DIRECTOR AND THE THIRD ROLE I 211 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,600 HAVE IS CO-DIRECTOR OF A 212 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,200 SCHOLARLY COMMUNICATIONS LAB A 213 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,360 RESEARCH GROUP I CO-DIRECTOR AT 214 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,680 THE UNIVERSITY OF OTTAWA. 215 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:50,400 LOOKING BROADLY AT ISSUES OF 216 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,120 SCHOLARLY COMMUNICATION. 217 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,760 I ALWAYS BRING ALL OF MYSELF 218 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,360 WHEN I GO ANYWHERE. 219 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,920 I THINK I AM HERE WITH TWO OF 220 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,480 THOSE ROLES IN PARTICULAR. 221 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,080 ONE IS I THINK IN THIS PANEL 222 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,560 TALKING ABOUT TOOLS IN MY 223 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:04,600 CAPACITY AS DIRECTOR OF A 224 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:11,160 PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN DOING OPEN 225 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,720 SOURCE SOFTWARE FOR PUBLISHING. 226 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,720 THE PRODUCT'S BEEN AROUND 20 227 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:20,280 YEARS AND IT'S AND THE SOFTWARE 228 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,040 IS USED AROUND THE WORLD AND I 229 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:27,400 THINK IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF 230 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,960 HOW WE CAN SEE AND SHAPE WHAT 231 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,280 THE LANDSCAPE LOOKS LIKE. 232 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,400 WHILE IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO RIGOR 233 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,120 AND SCIENCE IT'S BUT IS IT ABOUT 234 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,680 THE MODES OF PUBLISHING AND 235 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,480 WHOSE VOICE HEARD AND ABLE TO 236 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,880 TAKE PART IN THE SCHOLARLY 237 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,280 CONVERSATION WHICH IS AN 238 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,600 IMPORTANT PART OF QUALITY IN 239 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,320 RESEARCH. 240 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,120 I'M GOING TO STAY BRIEF TO KEEP 241 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,920 TIME FOR PANELISTS I WANTED TO 242 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,680 PRESENT A LITTLE BIT OF MYSELF 243 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,360 AND WHAT I'M BRINGING SO AS I 244 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,280 MODERATE AND TAKE AND 245 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,080 PARTICIPATE IN THE CONVERSATION 246 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,120 I HOPE YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT 247 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,800 OF THAT CONTEXT. 248 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,240 THE WORK WE DO IS AROUND WHAT 249 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,240 FEATURES DO WE BUILD IN THE 250 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,680 SOFTWARE NOW THAT IT'S GOT THIS 251 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,160 BROAD ADOPTION? 252 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,440 WE THINK OF WHAT FEATURES DO WE 253 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,040 BRING TO CREATE THE CHANGES IN 254 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,400 THE SCHOLARLY PRACTICES 255 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:20,760 UNDERNEATH. 256 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,640 SOME THINGS ARE PRAGMATIC 257 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:24,480 INCLUDING CERTAIN METADATA 258 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:24,680 FIELD. 259 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:27,720 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE 260 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,520 ADOPTING THE USE TO HAVE GREATER 261 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,400 TRANSPARENCY AND BUILD THAT IN 262 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,760 THE SOFTWARE AND PUT IT IN FRONT 263 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,800 OF PEOPLE AND SOME IS AROUND HOW 264 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,160 WE PHRASE THE E-MAIL TEMPLATES 265 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,240 IN THE SOFTWARES TO SO YOU 266 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,440 NUDGE THE EDITORS, MY ROLE IS TO 267 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:45,840 SYNTHESIZE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH 268 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,440 THE REVIEWERS HAVE DONE. 269 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,680 AGAIN, WE USE THE TECHNOLOGIES 270 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,080 IN THIS WAY AND THE PROJECT AND 271 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,680 PEOPLE OFTEN THINK OF IT AS 272 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:56,720 PUBLISHING PLATFORM THE 273 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,680 SCHOLARLY LEADING OF THAT 274 00:10:57,680 --> 00:10:58,640 PROJECT MEANS WE'RE THINKING 275 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,600 ABOUT WHERE THE QUALITIES OF HOW 276 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,600 THAT SCHOLARSHIP SHOULD TAKE 277 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,960 PLACE AND HOW CAN WE THROUGH THE 278 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,160 CREATION OF THE SOFTWARE NUDGE 279 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,480 OR ENCOURAGE CERTAIN KINDS OF 280 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,800 BEHAVIORS AND ACTIONS IN HOW 281 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,800 THEY DO THEIR WORK. 282 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,680 THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND 283 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:17,440 AS WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION. 284 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,680 THE SECOND MAIN PART AND THE 285 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:23,440 PIECE THAT CAUGHT THE ATTENTION 286 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,560 OF THE ORGANIZERS AND WE TEST 287 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:29,720 CONCLUDED AND I INVITE YOU TO 288 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,600 CHECK OT THE WEBSITE FOR CANADA 289 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,240 FOR WE DID A STUDY ACROSS 290 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,160 REPRESENTATIVE SET OF 291 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,800 UNIVERSITIES IN U.S. AND CANADA 292 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,560 LOOKING AT OUR TYPE OF 293 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:47,600 INSTITUTIONS AND BACCALAUREATE 294 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,400 INSTITUTIONS AND I SAW YESTERDAY 295 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,760 IN ONE OF THE ROOMS THERE WAS A 296 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,840 LOT OF DOTS OF INCLUDING RIGOR 297 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,480 IN THE RPT PROCESS AND THERE WAS 298 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,560 A CONVERSATION WHERE THEY WANTED 299 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:03,000 TO HAVE A PROJECT ABOUT CHANGING 300 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,080 THE FORM IT WAS LIKE LET'S 301 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,720 INCLUDE OPENNESS AND THE 302 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,400 RESEARCHER WAS LIKE WHAT 303 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,120 EVIDENCE DO WE HAVE AND WHAT IS 304 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,560 OUR BENCHMARK FOR HOW MUCH THOSE 305 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:16,520 ELEMENTS ARE ACTUALLY IN THE RPT 306 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,600 PROCESS RIGHT NOW. 307 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,680 SO WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES TO 308 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:25,920 CLETH THE -- COLLECT THOSE 309 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,880 THINGS AND WE MANAGED TO GET 310 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,680 FUNDING TO DO A NICE SET OF INFO 311 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:34,520 GRAPHICS AND WE FORMALLY WRAPPED 312 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:42,120 UP THAT PROJECT. 313 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,160 ONE OF THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS WAS 314 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,560 ADDING TO THE RPT PROCESS OUR 315 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:48,080 CONCLUSION IS IT WAS NOT ENOUGH 316 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,280 TO CHANGE THE CULTURE. 317 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,320 YOU CAN ADD MORE THINGS AND 318 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,040 THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF LIP 319 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,880 SERVICE TO THOSE PROCESSES AND 320 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,240 UNIVERSITY VERY GOOD ABOUT 321 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:09,680 TALKING THOSE THINGS AND THERE'S 322 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:11,200 TRADITIONAL METRICS SO THE 323 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,440 INCENTIVES CONTINUE TO BE IN 324 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:12,760 PLACE. 325 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,840 I WANTED TO CHALLENGE YESTERDAY 326 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,240 BUT THERE WERE TOO MANY PEOPLE 327 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,000 LINED UP AT THE MIC AND I'LL 328 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IT'S 329 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:23,760 NOT A REVOLUTION. 330 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,720 IT'S AN EVOLUTION NOT A 331 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,600 REVOLUTION. 332 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,480 FOR ME I QUESTION WHY WE MOVE 333 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,800 THINGS IN AN EVOLUTION WAY. 334 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,560 THE EVOLUTION ADDS SOMETHING TO 335 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:39,920 THEM AND THE REVOLUTION IS LET'S 336 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,800 BUILD IT FROM THE GROUND UP. 337 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,440 WE SHOULDN'T ALWAYS GET CAUGHT 338 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,880 UP ON THE PRAGMATIC NEXT STEPS. 339 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,600 IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MAKE A 340 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,360 LITTLE CHANGE AND PUT ON THE 341 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,360 TABLE SOMETIMES THE RIGHT THING 342 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,560 TO DO IS WHAT WE BUILT SO FAR IS 343 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:56,880 GARB 344 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:57,120 GARBAGE. 345 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,200 WE NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN AND PUT 346 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,640 SOMETHING PROPER IN PLACE AND IT 347 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,560 REQUIRES A VERY STRONG PARADIGM 348 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,280 SHIFT IF WE WANT TO SEE CHANGES 349 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,120 IN HOW WE DO THINGS. 350 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,960 I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH 351 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,760 TIME. 352 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,800 WE HAVE FOUR GREAT PANELISTS AND 353 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,600 I WON'T GIVE THEIR BIOS BUT GIVE 354 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,800 A SENSE OF WHAT'S TO COME FOR 355 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:28,160 ROLLING OUT AND SIGN POSTING. 356 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,160 WE'LL HAVE TIM ERRINGTON TALKING 357 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,000 ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND CHANGE 358 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,400 AND THE LIMITS OF WHAT THAT 359 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,960 MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 360 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,840 FOLLOWED BY BECKY LUNDWALL 361 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,560 SPEAKING OF CHANGES AT THE 362 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,840 DEPARTMENT LEVEL AND REVIEW AND 363 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,600 RANK DOCUMENTS. 364 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,520 THAT'S BUILDING ON WHAT I WAS 365 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,240 TALKING ABOUT BUT HER SPECIFIC S 366 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,800 OF HAVING DONE THOSE CHANGES. 367 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,400 THEN MELISSA RETHLEFSEN WELL 368 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 BRING US UP TO THE INSTITUTION 369 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,560 LEVEL BY SHARING EXPERIENCE OF 370 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,120 TWO DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS AND 371 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,080 HAVING THE IMPORTANCE OF 372 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,800 SUCCESSFUL CHANGES TALKS ABOUT 373 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,800 CHANGE IN DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS 374 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,520 AND TRYING TO MAKE CHANGES AND 375 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:17,760 FINALLY UL -- ULRICH DIRNAGL 376 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,000 WILL TALK ABOUT CHANGE MODEL AND 377 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:20,520 WHAT'S BEHIND IT. 378 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,840 THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT'S TO 379 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,520 COME AND I'LL STEP ASIDE AND 380 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,080 TURN IT TO TIM TO GET IT 381 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:34,200 STARTED. 382 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,160 >> FIRST, THANKS FOR THE 383 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,360 INVITATION AND CHANCE TO TALK. 384 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,360 I'M GOING TO TEE UP A LITTLE BIT 385 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,040 ON HOW INFRASTRUCTURE PLAYS A 386 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,560 ROLE BUT FIRST SET UP THE STAGE 387 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,000 AND GO A LITTLE BIT BIG PICTURE 388 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,040 IF THAT'S OKAY. 389 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,240 FIRST I WANT TO START A LITTLE 390 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,320 BIT BY PUTTING BACK WHAT WE WERE 391 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,480 HEARING YESTERDAY AND THERE'S 392 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,440 LOTS OF AND GOING ON THE '50s 393 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,240 AND '60s OF THINGS WE FACE AND 394 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,520 THINGS WE WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT 395 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,720 YESTERDAY AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT 396 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,560 THIS AND THERE'S A LOT THERE BUT 397 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,120 NOT NECESSARY UNIQUE AND THE 398 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,400 SOLUTIONS. 399 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,760 THESE ARE NOT UNIQUE EITHER. 400 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,560 THEY'VE BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN THE 401 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:42,800 PAST. 402 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,800 NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T KEEP 403 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,040 TALKING ABOUT THEM, I'M A BIG 404 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,920 FAN OF IT TOO BUT THINKING WHY 405 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,240 WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE AND 406 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,560 DISCUSS THE CHALLENGES, TALK 407 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,560 ABOUT SOLUTIONS BUT NOT GET TO 408 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:53,920 IMPLEMENTATION. 409 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,320 WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S A 410 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,920 BIT OF A STRATEGY TAKEN TO DATE 411 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,320 WHICH IS LET'S STUDY IT. 412 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,960 I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN BECAUSE I 413 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,160 DO IT MYSELF AND EDUCATE AND 414 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,320 TRAIN AND WE KNOW THAT'S 415 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,120 IMPORTANT AND GET THE VALUES 416 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:08,440 EMBEDDED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 417 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,400 WE KNOW THESE ARE THE NECESSARY 418 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:10,600 STEPS. 419 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,560 BUT IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT TO GET 420 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:12,840 CHANGE. 421 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,560 I THINK THAT'S THE KEY. 422 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,800 ONE OF THE ISSUES IN ACADEMIC 423 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,440 MODEL IS WHERE THE INCENTIVES 424 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:19,680 LIE. 425 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,800 IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE RIGHT 426 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,200 PLACE IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF 427 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,240 THE MANY BARRIERS THERE. 428 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,760 WHAT IT MEANS IS WE NEED TO 429 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,440 START ADDING THINGS TO THE 430 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,840 SYSTEM AND THINK ABOUT THE 431 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:29,880 REWARD SYSTEM AND THINK HOW 432 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:30,520 INFRASTRUCTURE PLAYS A ROLE IN 433 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,800 THIS. 434 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,480 SO AGAIN GETTING UP AT A HIGHER 435 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,880 LEVEL TO PUT BACK INTO CONTEXT 436 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:37,320 WHAT I THINK AND HOW 437 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,720 INFRASTRUCTURE CAN PLAY A ROLE. 438 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,880 SO WE THINK ABOUT THIS A LOT AT 439 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,760 AND TRYING TO ARTICULATE IS WHAT 440 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,560 DOES IT MEAN TO CHANGE A 441 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,280 RESEARCH CULTURE AND WHAT ARE 442 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,520 THOSE PIECES AND WHY THEY'RE IN 443 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,080 PLACE. 444 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,440 INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE MEANS TO 445 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,520 MAKE IT POSSIBLE. 446 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,160 WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS 447 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,520 THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE USER AND 448 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:11,520 MAKE SURE IT WILL BE ANNESY AN 449 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,240 EASY PROCESS AND IT'S THE 450 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,320 NORMATIVE BEHAVIOR THAT'S 451 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,480 IMPORTANT AND WE'RE NOT -- WE 452 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,560 ARE ALL SCIENTISTS AND WE ALL 453 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,560 COME FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. 454 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,800 PREVIOUSLY A PRE-CLINICAL CANCER 455 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,440 BIOLOGIST AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE 456 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,080 BEHAVIORS IN THAT COMMUNITY AND 457 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,640 WE WANT TO HAVE INCENTIVES TO 458 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,400 MAKE IT REWARDING AND POLICIES 459 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,160 TO MATCH. 460 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,280 THE KEY I THINK IN THIS AT THE 461 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,400 WAY OF URBAN SCIENCE IS 462 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,360 ALIGNMENT. 463 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:41,880 YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T 464 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,080 HAVE POLICIES MISALIGNED WITH 465 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,720 THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ENABLE IT 466 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,320 TO OCCUR. 467 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,520 AND REMEMBER WE'RE DOING THAT IN 468 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,520 AN ECO SYSTEM. 469 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,320 THE RESEARCHER IS NOT ALONE. 470 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,120 THEY'RE SUPPORTING THEM. 471 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:54,560 I THINK THAT WAS MENTIONED 472 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:54,880 BEFORE. 473 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,320 WE'RE ALL HUMANISTIC. 474 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,160 THAT'S A COMMON ELEMENT AND IN 475 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,800 THE SYSTEM WORKING TOGETHER. 476 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,080 I'LL GIVE YOU EXAMPLES AND SPEND 477 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:03,800 MORE TIME ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE 478 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,720 PIECE BUT I WANT TO PUT IT BACK 479 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,560 IN CONTEXT. 480 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,640 HERE'S THINGS WE'RE DOING AT THE 481 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,400 CENTER FOR URBAN SCIENCE AND 482 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,080 COME DOWN AS DIFFERENT ELEMENTS 483 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:21,520 OF THE PAIR -- PYRAMID AND 484 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,640 TRYING TO SHIFT AT JOURNALS AND 485 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,880 FUNDING AGENCIES AND 486 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,040 INSTITUTIONS TO SAY DO YOU HAVE 487 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,360 A FRAMEWORK TO ALIGN WHAT YOU 488 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,160 ARE HOPING TO GET FROM 489 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,560 RESEARCHERS WITH WHAT YOUR 490 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,800 POLICIES ACTUALLY ARE. 491 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:39,120 THINGS AROUND DATA CITATION AND 492 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:39,800 REGISTRATION, ANALYSIS. 493 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,640 YOU CAN ALSO HAVE INCENTIVES 494 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,760 BAKED IN AND REGISTERED REPORTS 495 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,160 WHICH IS A DIFFERENT 496 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,800 COMPLEMENTARY WAY OF STILL 497 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,160 HAVING PUBLICATIONS OCCUR BUT 498 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,840 EMBEDDING RIGOR IN THE PROCESS 499 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,880 AND NOT LETTING IT BE A BARRIER 500 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,080 TO THE WAY THE PAPER GETS 501 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,320 PUBLISHED. 502 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,880 IT'S NOT WHAT YOU FIND BUT HOW 503 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,120 YOU DICTATE THE PUBLICATION 504 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:00,360 PROCESS. 505 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:02,360 THIS CAN EMBED GOOD RIGOR AND 506 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:08,800 PRACTICE WITHIN THE SYSTEM BY 507 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,080 INNOCENTSIV 508 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,280 IN -- INCENTIVIZING AND IT'S NOT 509 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,400 THAT I'M GIVING YOU A BADGE BUT 510 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,160 I AM SHOWING IT TO THE 511 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,760 INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY. 512 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,120 I'M SHOWING THAT'S PART OF OUR 513 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:23,920 NORMATIVE BEHAVIOR. 514 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,560 YOU CAN SEE I'M DOING IT AS 515 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,440 WELL. 516 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,760 IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE PART. 517 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,760 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE 518 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,760 TO DO THAT AND THIS IS WHERE THE 519 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,560 INFRASTRUCTURE COMES IN TRYING 520 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,440 TO MAKE IT EASIER. 521 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,280 I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A 522 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,480 CENTER FOR URBAN SCIENCE CENTRIC 523 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,120 VIEW ON THIS. 524 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,120 THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT THIS AND 525 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,240 IT'S A BIT OF A BUSY SLIDE. 526 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,480 WE CAN BUILD OPEN SCIENCE 527 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,480 FRAMEWORK AND IT'S A TOOL THAT 528 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,480 ENABLES COLLABORATION AND 529 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,280 PRACTICES TO OCCUR. 530 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,800 IT'S NOT ALONE. 531 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,120 IT'S PART OF A LARGER SYSTEM 532 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,520 WHERE THERE'S OTHER DATA 533 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,160 REPOSITORIES AND OTHER SERVICES 534 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,240 PART OF THE SYSTEM. 535 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,200 AND OSF IN TERMS OF MAKING IT A 536 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,280 TOOL TO HAVE BETTER PRACTICES 537 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,640 AND DO THE BEHAVIORS THEY WANT 538 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:08,800 TO. 539 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,160 THE TRICK IS IF YOU JUST GIVE 540 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,920 THEM THAT TOOL WITH ALL THE WAYS 541 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,400 TO DO IT IT'S NOT VERY EASY AND 542 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,880 NOT EMBEDDED WITHIN THEIR 543 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,200 COMMUNITIES. 544 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,840 THE APPROACH WE TAKE IS TO THINK 545 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,640 OF THE INTERFACES SOMEBODY WILL 546 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,640 INTERACT WITH AND FOCUSSING ON 547 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,080 PREPRINTS OR PRE-REGISTRATION OR 548 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,840 HAVE THE COLLECTION OF THE 549 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,840 ARTIFACTS FROM THE RESEARCH OR 550 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,400 TRYING TO SHOW THE INSTITUTION 551 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,760 EVERYTHING I'M DOING WITH IT? 552 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,080 THAT CREATES INTERFACES BUT IT'S 553 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,480 STILL NOT IF YOU HAVE BECAUSE 554 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,440 IT'S NOT ALL PRE PRINTS 555 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,960 EVERYWHERE AND ALL INSTITUTION 556 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,760 IN ONE PLACE AND HAVE YOU 557 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,000 COMMUNITY INTERFACES. 558 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,520 AS THEY IS WHAT WE'RE STRUCTURED 559 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,040 AROUND AND SOCIAL SYSTEM WHERE 560 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,280 THERE'S SOCIETIES AND 561 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:47,600 INSTITUTIONS. 562 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,960 SO WE BASICALLY USE THAT AS AN 563 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,840 INTERFACE INTO THE DIFFERENT 564 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,560 INTERFACES TO TECHNOLOGY. 565 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,360 LET ME GIVE AN EXAMPLE. 566 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:57,280 THAT WAS A LOT. 567 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,840 I'M NOT SURE I WAS ABLE TO CLEAR 568 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,960 ARTICULATE THAT. 569 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,880 OSF YOU CAN PRE-REGISTER YOUR 570 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,520 STUDIES AND THIS ALLOWS YOU TO 571 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,400 GO AND UNDER AND DISCOVER 572 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,360 REGISTRATIONS AS WELL TO DO ONE 573 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:12,920 YOURSELF AND HAS A WORK FLOW TO 574 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,560 TRY TO MAKE IT EASIER. 575 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,600 I TRY TO GUIDE THE USER THROUGH 576 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,560 WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DOONED HOW 577 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,280 DO I CREATE THE METADATA TO MAKE 578 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,600 SURE YOU'RE REGISTERING IT AND 579 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,560 MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE PROPER 580 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,720 DATA RESPONSES AND WHETHER 581 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,640 YOU'LL EMBARGO IT. 582 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,760 IT'S IT MAKES IT EASIER. 583 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200 IT'S NOT JUST DO THIS BEHAVIOR 584 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,040 BUT A GUIDED FLOW TO DO THE 585 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:36,280 BEHAVIOR. 586 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,560 YOU CAN SAY OKAY, THE WAY I DO 587 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,600 IT IN ECONOMICS WON'T BE THE 588 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,000 SAME AS ANIMAL RESEARCH OR 589 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,560 CLINICAL RESEARCH. 590 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,360 SO WHAT WE DO IS WE DO BRANDED 591 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:45,960 REGISTRIES. 592 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,560 IT'S A WAY TO MAKE THE FORM, THE 593 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,760 TEMPLATE THE INFORMATION YOU PUT 594 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,720 INTO A REGISTRATION CUSTOMIZED 595 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,840 TO THE COMMUNITY. 596 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,760 THEY CREATE THOSE COMMUNITIES TO 597 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,040 DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE BEST 598 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,680 PRACTICES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT 599 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,840 WHAT ARE CONSENSUS OF WHAT IS TO 600 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,680 THE METADATA AND IT INCLUDES 601 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,280 COLOR AND LOGO AND SIMPLE 602 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,720 INDICATORS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS 603 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,280 PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY. 604 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,600 HAVE YOU A LANDING PAGE AND IT'S 605 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,280 DISCOVERABLE BY OTHERS. 606 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,520 THAT WAY YOU CAN HAVE A BASE 607 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,480 INFRASTRUCTURE ABLE TO SUPPORT 608 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,400 THIS VARIATION IN THE WAY OUR 609 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:16,960 COMMUNITIES ARE ABLE TO DO 610 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:24,520 THINGS. 611 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,800 NOW YOU CAN GO AND SEE LIKE YOU 612 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,840 CAN ON PUB MED SEE ALL THE 613 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,480 REGISTRATIONS BUT IF YOU LOOK 614 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,200 HERE YOU CAN LOOK AT SPECIFIC 615 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,160 REGISTRATIONS ON OSF AND NOT. 616 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,680 CLINICALTRIALS.gov. 617 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,200 YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TO ONE 618 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,000 PLACE AND FIND ALL THE 619 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,800 INFORMATION YOU NEED BUT IT'S 620 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,320 NOT NECESSARILY MY COMMUNITY, IT 621 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,960 MAY BE EGAP AND THAT'S HOW 622 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,560 TECHNOLOGY CAN HELP SUPPORT 623 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,360 THAT. 624 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,480 I'LL STOP THERE AND THANK YOU 625 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,680 AND WE'LL HAVE A GREAT 626 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:09,040 DISCUSSION HOPEFULLY. 627 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,960 >> I HAVE HANDOUTS SO YOU CAN 628 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,760 LOOK AT THEM BECAUSE I WON'T BE 629 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,240 ABLE TO COVER THEM. 630 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:49,560 I'M BECKY LUNDWALL AT BRIGHAM 631 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,920 YOUNG UNIVERSITY AND I'LL TALK 632 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,920 HOW WE CHANGED OUR RANK AND 633 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,760 STATUS DOCUMENT. 634 00:24:53,760 --> 00:25:02,560 SO THE TABLES ARE HERE BUT THE 635 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,880 FIRST TABLE IS PROCESS BUT ALL 636 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,200 I'LL MENTION LIKE WHAT A REAL 637 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,880 ESTATE AGENT TELLS YOU, IT'S 638 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,960 ABOUT LOCATION, LOCATION, 639 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,240 LOCATION. 640 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,400 TALK TO PEOPLE, TALK TO PEOPLE, 641 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:18,440 TALK TO PEOPLE. 642 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,280 THE COMMITTEE WORKING ON 643 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,400 CHANGING RANK AND STATUS READ A 644 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,320 LOT OF LITERATURE. 645 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,040 WE CAN HAVE LOTS OF STATUS 646 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,160 PEOPLE INTERESTED IN DOCUMENTS 647 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,000 TO SUPPORT MORE RIGOROUS 648 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,280 SCIENCE. 649 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,480 WE HAD TO TALK TO THE CHAIR AND 650 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,120 DEAN AND UNIVERSITY TO MAKE SURE 651 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,320 THEY WOULD BACK US UP IF WE 652 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,400 CHANGED OUR RANK AND STATUS 653 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,280 DOCUMENT AND PERHAPS MOST 654 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,920 IMPORTANT TO ME IS WE HAD TO 655 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,240 TALK TO FACULTY OVER AND OVER 656 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:45,440 AGAIN. 657 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,560 WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS? 658 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,520 HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE 659 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,640 RANK AND STATUS DOCUMENTS 660 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:53,920 CHANGE. 661 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,320 THAT'S A KEY POINT ABOUT THE 662 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:56,840 PROCESS. 663 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,360 WE PROVIDE IN OUR RANK AND 664 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,400 STATUS DOCUMENT A LIST OF WHAT 665 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,560 WE CONSIDER QUALITY. 666 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,560 ESSENTIALLY WE DIVIDED AND 667 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,760 YOU'RE EVALUATING ON TEACHING 668 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000 AND CITIZENSHIP AND RESEARCH AND 669 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,320 WE DIVIDED RESEARCHER 670 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,600 SCHOLARSHIP. 671 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:20,840 THIS IS A PSYCHOLOGIY DEPARTMEN 672 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,680 INTO QUALITY AND QUANTITY. 673 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,920 WE PROVIDED A LIST OF WHAT WE 674 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,360 CONSIDERED QUALITY. 675 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:30,520 I DO THINK WE NEED TO REVISE THE 676 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,840 LIST. 677 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:43,360 IT'S MOSTLY OPEN SCIENCE BUT 678 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,600 MADE A CASE FOR WHAT THEY 679 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,240 THOUGHT WAS MORE QUALITY 680 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,520 RESEARCH. 681 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,560 KEY POINTS IS BEING IBLE. 682 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:56,880 WE HAVE FUND IN OUR DEPARTMENT I 683 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,520 DON'T THINK IT'S SURVEILLANCE IS 684 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,680 PEOPLE THAT ALREADY HAD TENURE 685 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,640 WERE WILLING TO CHANGE. 686 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,640 THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, YEAH, I'LL 687 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,520 TRY THAT, I'VE GOT TENURE I'M 688 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:18,280 PROI PROTECTED AND INCOMING 689 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,800 PEOPLE WERE EXCITED AND THE 690 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,040 PEOPLE MOST RESISTANT WERE THE 691 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,400 PEOPLE THREE TO FOUR YEARS FROM 692 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,760 SUBMITTING THEIR TENURE SO WE 693 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,040 HAVE COMPASSION FROM THEM. 694 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,920 YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES IN 695 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,040 THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PIPELINE, 696 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:32,560 RIGHT? 697 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:40,640 SO WE TRIED TO BE FLEXIBLE 698 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,560 THERE'S TWO PATHS TO SUCCEED YOU 699 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,640 CAN GO THROUGH THESE QUALITY 700 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,760 STEPS THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING OR 701 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,360 OTHERS YOU SUGGEST. 702 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:52,960 ALSO SUPER CRITICAL TO BE 703 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,840 TRANSPARENT. 704 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,440 THIS REALLY HELPS CALM PEOPLE 705 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,200 DOWN. 706 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,040 WE HAVE PRACTICE DOCUMENTS EVERY 707 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,760 YEAR FOR ANNUAL REVIEW AND FOR 708 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,480 RANK AND STATUS THAT EVERYBODY 709 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,160 WHO'S EVALUATING ANYBODY ELSE 710 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,040 DOES THE PRACTICE DOCUMENTS AND 711 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760 KEEP DOING THEM UNTIL THEY'RE 712 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,080 CALIBRATED. 713 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,560 UNTIL WE GET PRETTY CONSISTENT 714 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,760 RESULTS AND THEN EVERY APPLICANT 715 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,080 HAS TWO RATERS AND IF A THIRD 716 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,960 NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN WE'LL 717 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,400 BRING THEM IN AND HAVE 718 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,360 DISCUSSION UNTIL HOW TO SCORE 719 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:28,800 THE PACKET. 720 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,800 THAT'S THE SECOND TABLE IN THE 721 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:37,160 HANDOUT. 722 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,680 WHAT HOST FACULTY DO IS TRY TO 723 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,560 GET AS MANY PUBLICATIONS AS THEY 724 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,920 CAN BUT WILL ALSO USE QUALITY 725 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,240 STEPS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING OR 726 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:54,840 COME UP WITH ON THEIR OWN TO 727 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,960 BOOST THEIR SCORE. 728 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,200 WE MAKE IT CLEAR IN JOB 729 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,640 INTERVIEWS AND MAKE IT CLEAR AND 730 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400 ASSIGN MENTORS TO NEW FACULTY 731 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,960 COMING INTO OUR DEPARTMENT. 732 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,000 AND IT'S CLEAR IN THE RANK AND 733 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:14,880 STATUS PACKET GUIDANCE. 734 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,200 AGAIN, FLEXIBLE. 735 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,640 SO HOW ARE WE DOING? 736 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,320 2016 ON THE X AXIS AND THE Y IS 737 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,600 ARBITRARY SCALE WE USE AND 2016 738 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,880 IS PRE USING THE SYSTEM SO WE 739 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,080 HAVE THE LOW LINE IS QUALITY AND 740 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,640 GREEN LINE IS QUANTITY. 741 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,680 YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST YEAR AFTER 742 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:45,600 WE IMPLEMENTED THIS WE GOT A 743 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:45,880 BOOST. 744 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,600 THEN IT GRADUALLY GOES DOWN. 745 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,320 IT'S POSSIBLE PEOPLE LOST 746 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:50,600 INTERESTED. 747 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,120 IT'S TOO HARD AND COMPLICATED 748 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,960 AND THE SOFTWARE AND 749 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,720 APPLICATIONS SO EVERYBODY GETS 750 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,840 TWO SCORES. 751 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,800 ONE FOR QUALITY AND ONE FOR 752 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,720 QUANTITY AND THEY'RE AVERAGED. 753 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,520 WE THINK THE DECLINE IN SCORES 754 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,440 MIGHT BE BECAUSE WE WERE PRETTY 755 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,120 GENEROUS IN 2017 AND WE 756 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,160 GRADUALLY GOT A LITTLE BIT 757 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,640 PICKIER AND PICKIER. 758 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,080 I'M OPEN TO IDEAS. 759 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,600 I WANT TO HEAR YOUR IDEAS. 760 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,240 I THINK WE WANT TO UPDATE WHAT 761 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,360 WE CONSIDER TO BE RIGOR AND 762 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,560 INCLUDE OPEN SCIENCE BECAUSE IT 763 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,760 SEEMS TO BE FOUNDATIONAL AND 764 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,240 MORE ABOUT RIGOR AND I THINK WE 765 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,160 NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE OF THE 766 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,880 SOCIAL REWARDS AND YOU DID A 767 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:47,840 GREAT JOB. 768 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,600 AND THE FACULTY DEFINITELY TALK 769 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,400 ABOUT THIS WITH THEIR GRADUATE 770 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:52,800 STUDENTS. 771 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,320 STUDENTS GET MULTIPLE COURSES. 772 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,880 STATUS, RESEARCH METHODS FROM 773 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,480 THEIR MENTORS IN A PROFESSIONAL 774 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,680 SEMINAR AND ETHICS CLASS MOST 775 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,360 FACULTY ARE MODELLING HOW TO DO 776 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,200 MORE RIGOROUS SCIENCE. 777 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,560 THE FACULTY TYPICALLY PROVIDE A 778 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,880 MIX OF EVIDENCE, NUMBER OF STEPS 779 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,240 OF QUALITY. 780 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,000 NOBODY IS DOING ONE OR THE 781 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,200 OTHER. 782 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080 A FEW FACULTY, MAYBE 20% ARE 783 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,880 STILL RESISTANT. 784 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,480 THE IDEA IS IT'S A PHASE, IT 785 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,240 WILL PASS. 786 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280 NEW HIRES SEEM TO THRIVE ON IT 787 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,280 AND BE EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW 788 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,600 STANDARDS. 789 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,560 I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR IDEAS. 790 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:52,760 THANK YOU. 791 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,240 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE 792 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,480 TODAY. 793 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,040 IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SPEAK 794 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,000 WITH YOU ALL THROUGHOUT THE 795 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,760 CONFERENCE AND LOOKING FORWARD 796 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,680 TO ANOTHER GREAT DAY. 797 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,000 I'M A MEDICAL LIBRARIAN AND RUN 798 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000 THE INFORMATICS CENTER THE 799 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000 UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO. 800 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:25,800 I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR 801 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,520 LIBRARIES MENTIONED YESTERDAY 802 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,760 PARTICULARLY AS A PARTNER FOR 803 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:36,240 THE CARPENTRIES BECAUSE LIBRARY 804 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,720 ESSENTIAL BUT UNDER TAPPED 805 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,520 RESOURCE THAT IS REALLY ABLE TO 806 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,760 HELP OUR ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS 807 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,560 MOVE FORWARD TO PROMOTE RIGOR, 808 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,840 TRANSPARENCY AND 809 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,240 REPRODUCIBILITY. 810 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,120 IN MY BRIEF TIME WITH YOU TODAY, 811 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,480 I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME 812 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,920 WAYS I WORKED ON THE ISSUE FROM 813 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,840 THE LIBRARY PERSPECTIVE AND A 814 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,080 FEW OF THE LESSONS I LEARNED IN 815 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,600 THE PROCESS. 816 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,000 IN 2016 I BEGAN COLLABORATING 817 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,240 WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR 818 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,480 RESEARCH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 819 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,680 UTAH WHERE I WAS AT THE TIME. 820 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,120 WE WERE BOTH REALLY INTERESTED 821 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,520 IN RESEARCH REPRODUCIBILITY IN 822 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,000 ALL DIMENSIONS OF THAT WORD AND 823 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:20,000 IN HIS ROLE HE WAS ESPECIALLY 824 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560 INTERESTED IN HOW TO CHANGE THE 825 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,920 INSTITUTION TO VALUE RIGOR AND 826 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,720 REPRODUCIBILITY MORE. 827 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,200 LIBRARIES TOUCH ALL THE 828 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,480 DISCIPLINES IN OUR UNIVERSITY 829 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,280 AND AS SUCH I WAS INTERESTED IN 830 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,280 HOW TO DO THIS ON A LARGE 831 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:40,920 MULTI-DISCIPLINARY SCALE. 832 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920 WE CAME UP WITH A TWO-DAY 833 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:49,800 CONFERENCE OPEN TO TENDE ATTEN 834 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,880 NATIONALLY TO PRODUCE 835 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,240 REPRODUCIBILITY. 836 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,360 THIS CONFERENCE WAS HELD IN 2016 837 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,440 AND FEATURES PANELS, PLENARY 838 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,960 SPEAKERS, A SUBMITTED POSTER 839 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,040 SESSION AND WORK SHOPS TO TEACH 840 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,400 PEOPLE HOW TO USE THE OPEN 841 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,560 SCIENCE FRAMEWORK. 842 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,480 THE CONFERENCE WAS A HUGE 843 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:11,920 SUCCESS. 844 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,080 PEOPLE PARTICIPATED AND THE 845 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,280 REVIEWS WERE GLOWING BUT PART OF 846 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,120 WHAT WE WANTED TO LEARN FROM 847 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,920 THIS CONFERENCE WAS HOW TO KEEP 848 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,640 THE MOMENTUM GOING. 849 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:32,400 WE ASKED PARTICIPANTS FOR FE 850 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,520 FEEDBACK AND GOT A FOUR-PRONGED 851 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,800 APPROACH. 852 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,080 WE CAME UP WITH A CONFERENCE IN 853 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,360 2018 AND THIS WE WERE GOING TO 854 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,440 THEME MORE AROUND INDIVIDUAL 855 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,920 CHANGES THAT COULD BE MADE WHICH 856 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,560 WAS A REQUEST OF A PARTICIPANT. 857 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,920 WE ALSO FORMED A RESEARCH 858 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,720 REPRODUCIBILITY COALITION AND 859 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:54,240 MET QUARTERLY TO CONTINUE 860 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,200 DISCUSSIONS HOW TO TAKE THE 861 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,960 LESSONS FROM THIS CONFERENCE AND 862 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,920 IMPLEMENT THEM IN PRACTICE TO 863 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,800 CHANGE THE CULTURE OF THE 864 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,160 INSTITUTION. 865 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,000 PROBABLY MY FAVORITE THING THAT 866 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,800 WE HOSTED A WEEKLY GRAND ROUNDS 867 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,000 RESEARCH REPRODUCIBILITY SEMINAR 868 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,720 WHERE WE INVITED SPEAKERS FROM 869 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,400 ALL OVER OUR CAMPUS TO TALK 870 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,560 ABOUT THE REPRODUCIBILITY ISSUES 871 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,920 IN OUR OWN DISCIPLINES WHETHER 872 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,320 IT WAS BUSINESS OR MANAGEMENT, 873 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,400 PRE-CLINICAL RESEARCH, SOFTWARE 874 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:25,880 ENGINEERING. 875 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,360 ALL THE DISCIPLINES WE COULD 876 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,760 FIND. 877 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,400 THE IT WAS DESIGNED TO BUILD A 878 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,360 COMMUNITY AND BUILD MOMENTUM FOR 879 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,680 THE 2018 CONFERENCE. 880 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,440 WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH OUR 881 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,560 DEPARTMENT OF PHILOSOPHY TO 882 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,560 CREATE A CREDIT COURSE 883 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,280 ENCOMPASSING THE CONFERENCE AND 884 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,680 PREPARING LEARNERS TO ATTEND THE 885 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,280 CONFERENCE AND DEVELOP THEIR OWN 886 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,560 SKILL SETS AT THE SAME TIME. 887 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,600 MOST IMPORTANTLY THOUGH THE 888 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,120 CONFERENCE SET UP THE HEALTH 889 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:04,040 SCIENCES LIBRARY AS THE GO-TO 890 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,440 EXPERTS ON CAMPUS FOR 891 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,320 REPRODUCIBILITY AND LED TO 892 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,240 OPPORTUNITIES TO PRESENT AND 893 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,920 DIRECTLY TO RESEARCHERS AND TO 894 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,560 RESEARCH LEADERS ACROSS CAMPUS. 895 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,800 I LEFT AFTER THE 2018 CONFERENCE 896 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,520 THE DAY AFTER AND LITERALLY AND 897 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,400 MOVED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF 898 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,920 FLORIDA WHERE I BEGAN MY EFFORTS 899 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,880 AGAIN. 900 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880 THERE, ONE OF MY POST IMPORTANT 901 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,920 EFFORTS WAS TO HIRE A 902 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,840 REPRODUCIBILITY LIBRARIAN YOU 903 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,560 MAY HAVE MET YESTERDAY. 904 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,080 AND DEVOTE TIME AND ENERGY TO 905 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,400 TEACHING AND EDUCATING ABOUT 906 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,240 REPRODUCIBILITY TOPICS ACROSS 907 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:50,560 DISCIPLINES AND TO LEAD CHANGE. 908 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:56,920 I WAS ABLE TO TEACH 909 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,200 RE MODELS AND 910 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,080 DEVELOP A REPRODUCIBILITY FOR A 911 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,960 T32 AND HOST THE THIRD ITERATION 912 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,480 OF THE REPRODUCIBILITY 913 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,200 CONFERENCE IN 2020. 914 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:12,600 THEN I MOVED TO MY CURRENT 915 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,640 INSTITUTION AND MOVED TO NEW 916 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,480 MEXICO WHERE WE'RE IN THE 917 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,520 BEGINNING STAGES AND WE PROVIDER 918 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,240 CARPENTRIES WORKSHOPS AS WELL AS 919 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,440 TO PROVIDE DATA MANAGEMENT WORK 920 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,840 SHOPS, WORK SHOPS ON OTHER TYPES 921 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,800 OF COURSES. 922 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,480 WE ALSO DO A LOT OF GUEST 923 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,400 LECTURES FOR VARIOUS COURSES ON 924 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,160 TOPICS RELATED TO RIGOR AND 925 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,560 REPRODUCIBILITY AND CREATE 926 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,960 CREDIT-BASED COURSE. 927 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,560 WE WERE INVITED TO CREATE 928 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,000 TRAINING FOR POST-DOCS AND GRAD 929 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,000 STUDENTS ON BETTER LITERATURE 930 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,760 SEARCHING SKILLS WHICH IS ONE OF 931 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,840 OUR CORE SERVICES. 932 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,640 THIS WAS TO HELP THEM TO BE ABLE 933 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,800 TO BETTER NOT ONLY FIND BUT 934 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,280 ASSESS THE RESEARCH TO ADDRESS 935 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,200 RIGOR RESEARCH IN THEIR FUTURE 936 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,680 GRANTS. 937 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,120 WITHIN THE HEALTH SCIENCES 938 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,000 LIBRARY AND INFORMATICS CENTER 939 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,800 WE HAVE NEW TENURE AND PROMOTION 940 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,440 GUIDELINES FOR FACULTY THAT 941 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,400 EMPHASIZE RIGOR, TRANSPARENCY, 942 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,080 OPEN SCIENCE AND 943 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,440 REPRODUCIBILITY. 944 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,200 FROM ALL THESE THINGS A FEW 945 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,200 LESSONS I'VE LEARNED. 946 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,640 THIS CAME UP A LITTLE BIT 947 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,920 YESTERDAY BUT IF INSTITUTIONS DO 948 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200 VALUE THIS KIND OF WORK, WE NEED 949 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,480 TO FUND IT. 950 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,080 WE NEED TO GET RELEASE TIME AND 951 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,000 REWARDS AND RECOGNITION FOR THE 952 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,600 INDIVIDUALS LEADING THESE 953 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,680 EFFORTS EVEN AND PERHAPS 954 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,800 ESPECIALLY THE GRASSROOTS 955 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,840 EFFORTS HAPPENING ACROSS OUR 956 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,960 CAMPUSES. 957 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,600 AT UTAH, I ACTUALLY HAD FIVE 958 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,560 COLLEAGUES IN THE LIBRARY WHOSE 959 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,200 WORK WAS ESSENTIAL TO 960 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,520 MAINTAINING THE MOMENTUM OF 961 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,240 WHERE WE HAD GONE AFTER OUR 962 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,400 FIRST CONFERENCE. 963 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,440 AFTER I LEFT, THREE OF THEM ALSO 964 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,160 LEFT AND THE REPRODUCIBILITY AND 965 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,280 RIGOR WORK AT UTAH IS NOW GONE. 966 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,040 COLLABORATION IS ESSENTIAL. 967 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,200 I WOULD LIKE TO THINK OF 968 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,200 LIBRARIES AS ONE OF THOSE NODES 969 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,200 THAT HAS WIDE BRIDGES DAMON 970 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,800 MENTIONED IN HIS TALK YESTERDAY. 971 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,080 WE ARE DISCIPLINE NEUTRAL AND WE 972 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,600 ARE OF COURSE THE CENTRAL UNIT 973 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,160 BUT POWER DYNAMICS BEING WHAT 974 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,960 THEY ARE TO MOVE FORWARD WE 975 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,640 NEEDED TO USE THOSE BRIDGES. 976 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,400 I ALSO THINK THAT WE NEED A 977 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:55,880 COMBINATION OF TOP-DOWN AND 978 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,960 BOTTOM-UP APPROACH AND WE WOULD 979 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,600 NOT HAVE GOTTEN THE WIDE SUPPORT 980 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,000 WE DID. 981 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,080 HAVING LEADERS THAT ACTIVELY 982 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,160 PROMOTED, ENCOURAGED AND 983 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,800 SUPPORTED WHAT WE DID WAS REALLY 984 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:18,240 ESSENTIAL TO THE SUCCESS. 985 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,000 ALSO WE NEED TO BE 986 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,680 MULTI-DISCIPLINARY IN SOME OF 987 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,240 THESE EFFORTS. 988 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:26,520 I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE 989 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,920 BECAUSE EVERYONE TENDS TO BE 990 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,480 SILOED BUT IT'S AN AMAZING WHEN 991 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,360 YOU BRING TOGETHER PEOPLE FROM 992 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,160 DIFFERENT FIELD AND DISCIPLINES 993 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,160 TO TALK WITH ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE 994 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,560 THEY START TO SEE THE 995 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,280 COMMONALITIES AND CAN SHARE AND 996 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:48,000 LEARN AND GROW. 997 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,480 AND THE WORK WE DO ALIGNS WITH 998 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,240 RESEARCH RIGOR TRANSPARENCY AND 999 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:57,520 REPRODUCIBILITY TOPICS ON 1000 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,960 MOTIVATIONS ARE SIMILAR TO THIS 1001 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,120 WORK AND THIS IS AN AREA MORE 1002 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,760 LIBRARIES ARE ACTIVELY WORKING 1003 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:14,200 IN SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 1004 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:21,040 >> SO LET ME FIRST THANK 1005 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:31,400 VERONIQUE AND STEVEN AND CHI AND 1006 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,320 I THINK CHI HAS THE ORIGINAL 1007 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,120 CHAMPION OF RIGOR FOR MAYBE 10 1008 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,480 YEARS. 1009 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,880 I DON'T EVEN KNOW. 1010 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,240 I STILL WONDER WHETHER HIS 1011 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,960 IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY IS PROOF 1012 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,880 OR WHAT WE HEARD OF THE NETWORK 1013 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,920 THEORY AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU 1014 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,120 DEFINE PERIPHERY IN THE END. 1015 00:41:53,120 --> 00:42:00,680 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT IS 1016 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:09,280 A SYSTEMIC INTERVENTION AND 1017 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:19,800 CHANGE INK -- AND WE HAD $1.2 1018 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,360 BILLION BUDGET INCLUDING THE 1019 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,880 HOSPITAL, I HAVE TO SAY. 1020 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,680 WE STARTED OUR ACTIVITIES WITH A 1021 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:34,920 FRAMEWORK. 1022 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,880 YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL THE ACTION 1023 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,760 WHICH STARTS WITH WHAT WE WANT 1024 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,320 TO ACHIEVE, TRUSTWORTHINESS AND 1025 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,320 ETHICAL ARE THE PRINCIPLES. 1026 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,040 WE HAVE DERIVED PROCESSES WHICH 1027 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,560 UNDER PIN IN OUR CONTEXT THE 1028 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,200 PRINCIPLES AND FROM THOSE WE 1029 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,400 HAVE DERIVED SERVICES AND 1030 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,200 ACTIVITIES WHICH ARE WHAT WE ARE 1031 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,160 DOING ON A DAILY BASIS AND THIS 1032 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:05,280 WE ACCOMPANY WITH META RESEARCH 1033 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,720 FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND THE RIGHT 1034 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:07,160 THING. 1035 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,200 YOU CAN PUT OUR ACTIVITIES IN 1036 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,880 VARIOUS BUCKETS. 1037 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,320 THIS IS A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND 1038 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,960 I'LL GIVE EXAMPLES IN A SECOND. 1039 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,640 WE'RE TRYING TO HELP WITH 1040 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,760 QUALITY ASSURANCE, OPEN SCIENCE 1041 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,520 AND INCENTIVES AND DO 1042 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,920 STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND THEN 1043 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,800 WE HAVE METARESEARCH AND ACT AS 1044 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,240 A THINK TANK AND THERE'S A CORE 1045 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:50,200 GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO DO 1046 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,200 ADMINISTRATION AND WE ALSO HAVE 1047 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,440 GROUPS AND TRACEY PRESENTED 1048 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,200 YESTERDAY AND MOST ARE TOPICAL. 1049 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,640 THEY HAVE TOPICS RELATED TO OUR 1050 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,640 ACTIVITIES AND FUNDED 1051 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:05,920 EXTERNALLY. 1052 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,440 TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT WE ARE 1053 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,640 DOING AND THIS IS A MIXTURE 1054 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,880 BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ECLECTIC 1055 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,960 ACTIVITY AND ARE CHOSEN ALMOST 1056 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,240 AT RANDOM. 1057 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,560 WE ARE HELPING OUR RESEARCHERS 1058 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,800 IN THE BASIC REALM TO WORK WITH 1059 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,080 ELECTRONIC LABORATORIES AND NOTE 1060 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,960 BOOKS MEANING WE SHOW THEM HOW 1061 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,200 TO USE THEM AND PAY FOR THE 1062 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,200 LICENSES AND FIX PROBLEMS. 1063 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,920 OBVIOUSLY E DO A 1064 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,200 EDUCATION. 1065 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,960 TRACY HAS TALKED ABOUT IT 1066 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,240 YESTERDAY. 1067 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,000 THERE'S OTHER ACTIVITIES. 1068 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,400 THE USUAL STUFF YOU COULD ARGUE 1069 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,960 LIKE THE COURSES IN ADVANCED 1070 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,240 PRODUCIBLE RESEARCH WITH 1071 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:54,680 STATISTICS AND WE HAVE 1072 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,520 PRE-CLINICALAL ANALYSIS AND 1073 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,400 SYSTEMATIC REVIEWS. 1074 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960 THESE ARE AN IMPORTANT 1075 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,320 COMPONENTS. 1076 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,960 WE DEVELOPED TOOLS AND ALL OF 1077 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,040 THEM BY THE WAY ARE OPEN AND WE 1078 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,200 PUBLISHED THEM AND HELP OTHERS 1079 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,960 TO USE THEM OUTSIDE OUR 1080 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,360 ENVIRONMENT. 1081 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:20,000 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TOOLBOX. 1082 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,320 THIS HELPS OUR RESEARCHERS TO 1083 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,160 BUILD THE PROBLEM OF HAVING THE 1084 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,960 RESULTS AND ASKING THE QUESTION 1085 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,960 WHERE CAN I PUBLISH THEM, WHAT 1086 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:36,640 ARE THE POSSIBILITIES. 1087 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,760 ANOTHER POTENTIALLY INTERESTING 1088 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,440 ACTIVITY FOR THE GROUP IS A 1089 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,760 DASHBOARD WHICH WE HAVE CREATED 1090 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,640 FOR OUR INSTITUTION. 1091 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,280 AND IT'S ONLINE SO YOU CAN CHECK 1092 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,600 IT OUT AND YOU CAN FIND OUT HOW 1093 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,400 THE ORGANIZATION IS DOING WITH 1094 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,640 RESPECT TO OPEN AND RESPONSIBLE 1095 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,400 RESEARCH PRACTICES. 1096 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,640 AND THIS IS UPDATED SOME OF IT 1097 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,280 ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND IT'S ABOUT 1098 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,240 FOR EXAMPLE OPEN SCIENCE. 1099 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:07,480 HOW MANY OF OUR PUBLICATIONS ARE 1100 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,960 OPEN AND THIS IS CUT OFF -- I 1101 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,200 DON'T KNOW. 1102 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,160 HOW WE'RE DOING THE PREPRINTS 1103 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,800 AND THEN VERY APPEAR FOR US TO 1104 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,000 DO CLINICAL TRIALS HOW MUCH OF 1105 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,560 THEM HAVE PUBLISHES SUMMARY 1106 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,440 RESULTS AND SO FORTH AND 1107 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,120 INTERESTING HOW WE'RE FARING 1108 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,400 WITH RESPECT TO YEARS AGO. 1109 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,800 I FORGOT TO MENTION IT'S BEEN 1110 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,960 AROUND FOUR OR FIVE YEARS NOW. 1111 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,720 WE'RE ALSO DOING A BENCHMARKING 1112 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:37,960 NOT ONLY IN OUR INSTITUTION WE 1113 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,960 ALSO BENCHMARK OTHERS. 1114 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,160 SO SET IN RELATION TO THEM AND 1115 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,040 IT'S USUALLY NOT AT THE TOP. 1116 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,920 WE'RE VERY MUCH IN THE MIDDLE 1117 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,080 VERY OFTEN SO THESE ARE ALL THE 1118 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,960 GERMAN UNIVERSITY MEDICAL 1119 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,720 CENTERS AND WHAT THIS SHOWS IS 1120 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,400 PUBLICATION AND I GUESS THIS IS 1121 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,280 PUBLICATION OF ANY RESULT WITHIN 1122 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,120 I THINK ANY FORMAT COULD BE A 1123 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,000 WEBSITE OR PUBLICATION IN A 1124 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,240 REGISTRY WITHIN I THINK WHAT IS 1125 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:17,960 IT 24 MONTHS. 1126 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:28,440 THAT'S AN OLD W.H.O. STANDARD 1127 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,080 AND WE WANT TO HELP RESEARCHERS 1128 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,720 DO BEST. 1129 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:45,080 IN THIS CONTEXT WE HAVE COURSES 1130 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,600 AND ALERT THEM IF THEY'RE 1131 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:47,840 DELAYED. 1132 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,960 WE HAVE AN INTERVENTION. 1133 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,960 SOME GET A REPORT CARD AND SOME 1134 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,400 DON'T GET ANYTHING AND SOME GET 1135 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,480 SOME HELP AND THE QUESTION IS 1136 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,960 WHAT HAPPENS MONTHS AND YEARS 1137 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:07,920 LATER, WHICH INTERVENTION IS 1138 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,400 BETTER. 1139 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,840 IN THE MEDICAL CONTEXT IF WE 1140 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,520 COMPARE OURSELVES TO BRITAIN 1141 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,360 WE'RE VERY BAD AT PATIENT AND 1142 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,640 STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. 1143 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,360 SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE KNOW 1144 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960 PICKING UP WITH RESEARCH AND 1145 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,760 FUNDING RESEARCH GROUPS TO DO 1146 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,400 BEFORE THEY START A STUDY TO 1147 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,080 ENGAGE STAKEHOLDERS. 1148 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,160 WE DO A LOT OF IN TERMS OF 1149 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,160 INCENTIVES. 1150 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,000 FOR EXAMPLE, WE GIVE OUT WE HAVE 1151 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,440 ALREADY HELPED TO CHANGE OUR 1152 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,720 UNIVERSITY OF THE PREVIOUS 1153 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:48,480 METRICS BASED ON THE IMPACT 1154 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,920 FACTOR AND PUBLICATION WE HAVE 1155 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:57,280 NOW ADDED THE NIR/NIH 1156 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,280 CITATION-BASED METRIC AND MORE 1157 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,600 IMPORTANTLY WE GIVE AN OPEN DATA 1158 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,400 ORIENTED FUNDING FOR EVERY PAPER 1159 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,640 THAT HAS IT'S DATA FAIR AND OPEN 1160 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,880 AUTHORS GET A CERTAIN MONETARY 1161 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,640 REWARD FOR THEIR RESEARCH. 1162 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,880 WE HAVE A LOT OF AWARDS WHICH 1163 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,040 OUR RESEARCHERS AND CLINICIANS 1164 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,960 CAN APPLY FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, IF 1165 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,760 THEY HAVE INVOLVED PATIENTS AND 1166 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,120 STAKEHOLDERS. 1167 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,960 IF THEY HAVE RE-USED DATA OR 1168 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,800 HAVE IT IN THE PRE CLINICAL 1169 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,320 REALM OR HAVE A PUBLISHED RESULT 1170 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,320 OR EDUCATION AND THIS IS NOT 1171 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,240 ABOUT THE MONEY BUT HIGHLIGHTING 1172 00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:42,000 THE EFFORTS. 1173 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,360 MOST IMPORTANTLY VEEP WE HAVE 1174 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,960 CHANGED OUR PROFESSORSHIP 1175 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,960 APPLICATION SERVICE AND THAT IS 1176 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,840 SOMETHING THAT IS VERY MUCH 1177 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,320 HELPED OUR LEADERSHIP ESPECIALLY 1178 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,320 IT'S VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF WHAT 1179 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,080 WE'RE DOING AND WE HAVE CHANGED 1180 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,280 THIS TO NOW INCLUDE NARRATIVES. 1181 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,760 THIS IS ONE OF THE NARRATIVES 1182 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,800 THAT IS ABOUT OPEN SCIENCE. 1183 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,600 WE'RE ASKING WHAT HAVE YOU DONE 1184 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,040 AND WHAT WILL YOU BE DOING WHEN 1185 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,320 YOU ARE POTENTIALLY WORKING WITH 1186 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:12,800 US. 1187 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,680 WE ARE HELPING OUR COMMISSIONS 1188 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,200 TO WORK WITH THIS NEW 1189 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,480 INFORMATION. 1190 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,320 THIS IS VERY TRICKY BECAUSE IT'S 1191 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,680 CONFUSING TO THEM. 1192 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,720 IT'S SORTING SPREAD SHEETS WITH 1193 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:27,200 JOURNAL NAMES. 1194 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,160 WE HAVE DEVELOPED SOFTWARE WHICH 1195 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:34,160 HELPS THE COMMITTEE WE WORK WITH 1196 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,520 AND THIS IS OPEN AND AVAILABLE 1197 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,560 TO OTHER INSTITUTIONS. 1198 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,200 THIS WAS REALLY JUST A 1199 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:39,440 SELECTION. 1200 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,000 WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL BECAUSE WE 1201 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,400 GET A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM 1202 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,960 EXTERNAL AGENCIES FOR THIS WORK 1203 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,360 OTHERWISE THIS WOULD NOT BE 1204 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,960 POSSIBLE AND OF COURSE WE HAVE A 1205 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,480 LOT OF INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER 1206 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,160 GROUPS THAT WORK IN THIS JOINT 1207 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,440 PROJECTS. 1208 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,240 SOME OF THEM FUNDERS AND SOME OF 1209 00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:57,960 THEM WE'RE JUST LEARNING FROM 1210 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,280 THEM. 1211 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,760 SO TO FINISH UP, I WOULD JUST 1212 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,960 LIKE TO MENTION MY TWO BARRIERS 1213 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,960 I SEE MOST PROBLEMATIC AND ONE 1214 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,880 IS THE BRAINS OF SCIENTISTS AND 1215 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:16,800 LEADERSHIP AND ADMINISTRATORS IN 1216 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,720 ACADEMIA ARE HARD WIRED WITH THE 1217 00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:23,640 REPUTATION AND FUNDING. 1218 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,840 IF I CAN PICK ONE THING I COULD 1219 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,760 CHANGE AND NOW THAT WE'RE 1220 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,120 SUCCESSFUL I THINK AS A SECOND 1221 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,320 PROBLEM THAT'S COMING UP AND I 1222 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,920 THINK IT'S MORE LICENSING AND 1223 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,240 THAT'S THE KIND OF NARRATIVE 1224 00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:44,880 SINCE WE HAVE QUESTIONS WE'RE 1225 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,880 DOING THE RIGHT THING AND CAN DO 1226 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,840 DO OTHER THINGS. 1227 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,280 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 1228 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:50,360 1229 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,680 >> THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY 1230 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,400 MODERATE BEING EASY. 1231 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,680 WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES FOR 1232 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,720 QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A 1233 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:07,120 BREAK AND COME BACK FOR THE 1234 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:07,400 PLENARY. 1235 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,560 I THINK WE CAN TAKE A COUPLE 1236 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:18,800 QUESTIONS NOW. 1237 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,960 WE CAN GET THE MICS IN THE 1238 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:32,280 AISLES ON PLEASE. 1239 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,680 MIKE DOHERTY, UNIVERSITY OF 1240 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:39,320 MARYLAND, DEPARTMENT OF 1241 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,640 PSYCHOLOGY. 1242 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,840 SO YOUR COMMENT EARLIER ON ABOUT 1243 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,920 REVOLUTION VERSUS EVOLUTION AND 1244 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,280 I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE I THINK 1245 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,360 REVOLUTION IS MAYBE THE ONLY 1246 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,440 APPROACH THAT WILL WORK AND I'LL 1247 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,200 GIVE YOU THIS FROM A POINT OF 1248 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,640 EXPERIENCE WHERE WHEN I STARTED 1249 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,520 CHANGING THE CRITERIA FOR 1250 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,840 PROMOTION AND TENURE AND MERIT 1251 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,520 REVIEW IN OUR DEPARTMENT I 1252 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,120 STARTED WITH EVOLUTION AND WHAT 1253 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,680 I QUICKLY FOUND WAS PEOPLE WERE 1254 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,080 FALLING BACK INTO HISTORICAL 1255 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,960 METRICS OF SUCCESS, HISTORICAL 1256 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,440 METRICS OF IMPACT AND QUICKLY 1257 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:21,960 FOUND OUT AND REALIZED THAT WAS 1258 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,720 NOT GOING TO GO ANYMORE AND WE 1259 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:27,200 THREW OUT THE OLD APPROACHES AND 1260 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,280 STARTED FRESH AND REQUIRED AN 1261 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,440 OVERALL NOT A REVISION. 1262 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:38,480 THEN TO REBECCA'S POINTS 1263 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,880 COMMUNICATION WAS KEY. 1264 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,160 IT WAS COMMUNICATING WITH 1265 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,080 FACULTY OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 1266 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,880 IT WAS A THREE-YEAR PROCESS TO 1267 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,240 GET THEM ON BOARD COMMUNICATING 1268 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,280 WITH THE DEAN'S OFFICE OF 1269 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,720 FACULTY AFFAIRS TO GET THEIR 1270 00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:55,840 BUY-IN OR SO THEY CAN SAY YES 1271 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,960 YOU CAN DO THIS AND GOING BACK 1272 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,920 WITH THE FACULTY AND SAYING YES, 1273 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:01,600 WE CAN DO THIS OVER AND NEVER 1274 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,480 UNTIL THEY THOUGHT, WE CAN DO 1275 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:09,080 THIS AND THEN THEY BOUGHT IN. 1276 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:09,880 SO EXACTLY COMMUNICATION, 1277 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,320 COMMUNICATION IS THE MOST 1278 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,440 IMPORTANT THING AND OVERHAULING 1279 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,080 I THINK IS PROBABLY THE ONLY 1280 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:21,920 THING THAT WILL WORK. 1281 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,520 >> WE LOOKED AT HOW PEOPLE 1282 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,960 DEFINE QUALITY, PRESTIGE AND 1283 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,840 IMPACT AND THEY DO DEFINE ALL 1284 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,720 THESE THINGS IN CIRCULAR WAYS 1285 00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:33,440 AND USE WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE 1286 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,400 OTHERS AND THEN THIS IDEA SOME 1287 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,960 PEOPLE WERE STILL CHOOSING TO GO 1288 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,880 TO THOSE AND TIMING TWO TRACTS 1289 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,880 AND WONDER IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT 1290 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,880 HOW IT'S PLAYED OUT HOW PEOPLE 1291 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,800 ARE CHOOSING ONE OVER THE OTHER. 1292 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,480 IS THERE STILL A SENSE IN THE 1293 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,280 DEPARTMENT THAT THE REAL THING 1294 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,760 IS TO STILL GO FOR THE NUMBER OF 1295 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,720 PUBLICATIONS AND NOW WE'RE ALSO 1296 00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:57,920 LEARNING SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP 1297 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,080 US. 1298 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,000 THAT'S WHAT YOU DESCRIBED BUT IS 1299 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,480 THERE A REAL SENSE OF WHEN YOU 1300 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,840 TALK ABOUT OKAY WE BETTER STILL 1301 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,160 FOCUS ON A NUMBER OF POSITIVES 1302 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:09,960 AND NOT GIVE THAT UP? 1303 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,600 >> SO TECHNICALLY YOUR QUALITY 1304 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,480 SCORES ONLY APPLY TO YOUR 1305 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,880 CURRENT PUBLICATIONS. 1306 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,520 SO FOR EACH PUBLICATION, YOU 1307 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,960 HAVE TO HAVE YOUR QUALITY 1308 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,880 OTHERWISE YOU GET NO POINTS. 1309 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,960 THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER 1310 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,280 OF PUBS. 1311 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,840 BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE LOST SOME 1312 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,800 INTEREST OVER TIME I'M LEARNING 1313 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,000 TOWARDS MAYBE WE NEED A 1314 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,400 REVOLUTION AND NOT AN EVOLUTION. 1315 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,960 BUT I KIND OF LIKE TO THINK WE 1316 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,240 DIDN'T WASTE TIME TAKING THIS 1317 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:48,640 FIRST STEP. 1318 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:49,760 IT WAS A GOOD FIRST STEP AND 1319 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,880 THEN WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE 1320 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,040 FACULTY AND SAY WE'RE SLIDING. 1321 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,080 WE NEED TO REALLY PUSH THIS A 1322 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,760 LOT HARDER. 1323 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,000 I THINK WE'LL GET SUPPORT FROM 1324 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:03,600 THE COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY 1325 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,960 THOUGH. 1326 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:11,360 THAT'S THE GOOD THING. 1327 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,200 >> JESSICA POLE BEINGA AND HOW 1328 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,240 DOES THE SYSTEM PLAY INTO 1329 00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:17,560 RECRUITMENT? 1330 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:18,400 SO FOR EXAMPLE YOU JUST 1331 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,760 MENTIONED HAVING A REVOLUTION. 1332 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,320 IS THERE A POINT AT WHICH YOU 1333 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,600 WOULD SAY WE'RE NOW ONLY GO TO 1334 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,880 RECRUIT A COHORT FROM THIS POINT 1335 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,040 ON? 1336 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,480 PEOPLE RECRUITED WILL BE 1337 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,440 EVALUATED IN THIS NEW FASHION. 1338 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,960 DO YOU ENVISION THAT AS AN 1339 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,440 APPROACH AND SECOND HAS IT 1340 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,520 PLAYED INTO VALUES OF PEOPLE 1341 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,120 COMING INTO THE DEPARTMENT AS 1342 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:44,480 NEW HIRES. 1343 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,960 HEY, DO YOU SEE THIS AS A 1344 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:56,360 SELLING POINT OF PEOPLE. 1345 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,520 >> AND IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING 1346 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,160 REINFORCED AT OTHER UNIVERSITIES 1347 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,120 FOR DOING IT THE OLD WAY THEN IT 1348 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,800 SEEMS UNFAIR RIGHT NOW TO SWITCH 1349 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,840 IT. 1350 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,720 >> WE'LL BE EVALUATING FOR 1351 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,000 TENURE IN THIS FASHION. 1352 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:37,400 >> YES, WE DO SAY THAT. 1353 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,040 >> DO YOU THINK THERE'S A 1354 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,600 MEASURABLE DIFFERENCE IN THE 1355 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,960 APPLICANTS COMING IN NOW WHEN 1356 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:45,960 YOU'RE PUTTING THEM ON THE 1357 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,080 PROGRAM AND THE QUESTIONS? 1358 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,720 >> YES, WE GET APPLICANTS THAT 1359 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,840 SEEM TO BE MORE FOCUSSED ON IT. 1360 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,960 OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE 1361 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,400 APPLYING FOR A JOB, IF YOU 1362 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,960 REALLY WANT IT YOU'LL TAILOR 1363 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,560 WHAT YOU SAID TOWARDS THAT. 1364 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,000 BUT WE DO SEEM TO BE ATTRACTING 1365 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,320 PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCITED TO DO 1366 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:04,520 THIS. 1367 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,640 THEY SEEM GENERALLY EXCITED AND 1368 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:12,040 COME IN AND START DOING IT. 1369 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,520 THE NERVOUS PEOPLE ARE THOSE 1370 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,440 THREE OR FOUR YEARS OUT FROM 1371 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,800 TENURE AND PEOPLE WHO THINK IT'S 1372 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,600 JUST A PHASE. 1373 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:17,880 AND I THINK WE NEED TO DOUBLE 1374 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,280 DOWN AND CONVINCE THEM THIS IS 1375 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:20,960 NOT A PHASE. 1376 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:31,400 THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. 1377 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,480 >> SO WE DOCUMENT ALL THE 1378 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,960 DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE GOING ON 1379 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,440 AND IT'S VERY MIXED HOW MUCH 1380 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,280 UPTAKE THIS GETS BECAUSE YOU CAN 1381 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,200 IGNORE IT AND OUR GEP OFFICER 1382 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,240 WILL SORT OF START AND HAVE YOU 1383 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,080 LOOKED AT THIS AND THAT. 1384 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,000 SO FAR IT'S A MIXED EXPERIENCE. 1385 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,200 I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT 1386 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,960 EFFECT WE ARE HAVING I THINK IS 1387 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,000 THAT CANDIDATES ARE STARTING TO 1388 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,320 THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AND 1389 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,320 IT'S ALSO INTERESTING WE'RE 1390 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,520 ELEVATING WHAT THEY'RE WRITING 1391 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,400 IN THOSE THINGS AND OFTEN SAY 1392 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,000 DOES NOT APPLY. 1393 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,720 SO WE ASKED THEM ABOUT THEIR 1394 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:27,440 PRACTICES AND THEY SAY, DOES NOT 1395 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,560 APPLY. 1396 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:34,440 I THINK WE'RE IN A STAGE OF 1397 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,600 EVALUATING WHETHER HOW WE'RE 1398 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,600 GOING TO DO THIS. 1399 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,040 I DON'T THINK WE CAN PROVE WE 1400 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,840 HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THE SELECTION 1401 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,560 WHETHER WE HAVE A DIFFERENT 1402 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:53,000 SELECTION AND A DOUBT IT. 1403 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,520 >> IS THERE AN EXAMPLE OF A 1404 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,320 UNIVERSITY THAT'S DONE THIS 1405 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,000 SUCCESSFULLY FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, 1406 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,440 ALL DEPARTMENTS AND HAVE THEY 1407 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,240 SHOWN ANY CONNECTION WITH 1408 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,120 OUTPUT? 1409 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,520 DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES? 1410 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:29,640 HAVE YOU TRIED TO DO IT? 1411 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:30,720 >> THE NETHERLANDS HAVE CHANGED 1412 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,680 NOT ONLY THE SYSTEM IN ONE 1413 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,360 UNIVERSITY, THEY HAVE CHANGED IT 1414 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,960 IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY AND HAVE A 1415 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,400 LOT OF BACKLASH FROM THEIR OWN 1416 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:40,680 SCIENTISTS. 1417 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,520 IT'S AN INTERESTING SPACE TO 1418 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,840 WATCH. 1419 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:51,040 FOR EXAMPLE THE UNIVERSITY OF 1420 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,160 ULTRICHT HAVE DONE IT A FEW 1421 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,960 YEARS NOW AND I DON'T KNOW THEY 1422 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,120 CAN THEY CHANGED SELECTION BUT 1423 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,880 THIS IS WHAT TO LOOK FOR. 1424 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,960 >> THIS GOES TO 10:40? 1425 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,960 >> YEP. 1426 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:15,200 >> GREAT, THANKS. 1427 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:15,800 >> UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH 1428 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,000 COLUMBIA IS ONE TO LOOK AT. 1429 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,360 THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR 1430 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,440 YEARS AND TO KNOW THEY'RE NOT 1431 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,280 OUT TO ANY OUTPUT YET AND STILL 1432 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,880 WORKING ON THE TRANSFORMATION 1433 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,880 AND WORKING HARD ON SHIFTING 1434 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,560 THEIR TENURE AND HIRING POLICIES 1435 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,160 AND I THINK THEY'RE GETTING 1436 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,240 RESISTANCE BUT THAT'S ONE TO 1437 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,440 KEEP AN EYE ON. 1438 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,160 ONE THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS 1439 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:48,560 OF BEING AN EXEMPLAR. 1440 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,560 >> DAVID CENTOLA TALKED ABOUT 1441 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,400 GOING AROUND THE PERIPHERY BUT 1442 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,440 IN THIS AREA IT SEEMED YOU NEED 1443 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,080 INSTITUTIONAL LEADERS. 1444 01:01:59,080 --> 01:01:59,720 YOU CANNOT CHANGE HIRING 1445 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,320 CRITERIA WITHOUT SUPPORT FROM 1446 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:05,920 THE TOP. 1447 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,760 AND MY QUESTION IS IS I DON'T 1448 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,640 KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED 1449 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,000 OR HOW THEY DID IT AT BRITISH 1450 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:17,080 COLUMBIA BUT WHAT ARE THE 1451 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,040 STRATE 1452 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,480 STRATEGIES AND THERE WAS A BIG 1453 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:23,800 LEADER THERE. 1454 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,640 WHAT WAS THE STRATEGY TO GET 1455 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,760 LEADERSHIP FROM THE TOP AND IF 1456 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,040 YOU HAVE BACKLASH FROM THEIR OWN 1457 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,680 FACULTY THEY'RE LIMITED IN THEIR 1458 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:33,880 POWER. 1459 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,400 >> AN INSIDE JOB. 1460 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,960 >> YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT IT'S 1461 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:42,520 TOP-DOWN. 1462 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:43,880 HELIOS IS AN INTERESTING THING 1463 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:44,920 WITH OPEN RESEARCH FUNDERS GROUP 1464 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:45,920 LEADING THE WAY. 1465 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,920 THAT ONE IS CLEVER BECAUSE IT'S 1466 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,080 STILL AT THE TOP BUT STILL USING 1467 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,560 PEER PRESSURE WITHIN THE SYSTEM. 1468 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,080 IT'S ANOTHER APPROACH DIFFERENT 1469 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,520 THE ISOLATED CASES. 1470 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,280 IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE 1471 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:02,000 WHERE IT GOES BUT ANOTHER ONE 1472 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,040 I'M AWARE OF. 1473 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,880 >> AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA 1474 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,920 THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THE PROMOTION 1475 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,880 AND TENURE STANDARDS TO INCLUDE 1476 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,720 RIGOR SPECIFICALLY BUT DID 1477 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,920 CHANGE THEM TO INCLUDE CREDIT 1478 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,480 FOR TEAM SCIENCE WHICH IS A STEP 1479 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,280 IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 1480 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,480 THEY DID THAT WITH SUPPORT FROM 1481 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,240 THE HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER, THE 1482 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,000 CTSA HUB AND ESSENTIALLY BY 1483 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,960 CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE 1484 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,840 FACULTY SENATE WHO THEN ALLOWED 1485 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:36,240 IT. 1486 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,320 WHETHER OR NOT THE CHANGE TO THE 1487 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,000 INSTITUTIONAL TENURE AND 1488 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,960 PROMOTION GUIDELINES WAS 1489 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,480 ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE I DON'T THINK 1490 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,120 THEY'VE STUDIED THAT YET AND IT 1491 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,920 WILL BE INTERESTING AND WOULD BE 1492 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,400 REALLY INTERESTED TO STUDY 1493 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,360 WHETHER OR NOT FOR EXAMPLE THE 1494 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,920 STATISTICIANS WHO DO WORK ON 1495 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,280 CLINICAL TRIALS ARE ACTUALLY IN 1496 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,360 FACT GETTING EQUAL CREDIT. 1497 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,560 FROM WHAT I HEARD THEY'RE NOT 1498 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,960 BUT THESE THINGS I THINK DO TAKE 1499 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:12,480 TIME TO CHANGE INCREMENTALLY. 1500 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,200 >> THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1501 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,080 WHAT YOU PUT IN THE GUIDELINES 1502 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,320 AND WHAT HAPPENS IN PRACTICE. 1503 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,360 THERE'S LOTS OF INSTITUTIONS 1504 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,240 THAT MADE CHANGES TO THEIR 1505 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:23,520 GUIDELINES. 1506 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,160 WE FOUND EVEN IN THE THINGS WE 1507 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,960 STUDIED FOR OPEN ACCESS INTO 1508 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,240 THEIR GUIDELINES AND YOU HEAR 1509 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,760 ABOUT ALTERNATIVES AND MEASURING 1510 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,960 THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND 1511 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,760 USING NARRATIVES AND HOW MUCH 1512 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,280 DOES IT CHANGE THE CULTURE AND 1513 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,280 THE FACULTY ARE NOT NECESSARY 1514 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,280 FEELING THEY'LL BE EVALUATED BY 1515 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,720 THEIR BROADER COMMUNITY THAT 1516 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:50,560 SPANS OTHER INSTITUTIONS. 1517 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,960 AND THE RESISTANCE I'VE HEARD 1518 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,320 FROM UNIVERSITY ADMINISTRATION 1519 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,320 IS OFTEN STILL VERY HOOKED AND 1520 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,840 I'M WILLING TO ADD THEY'RE 1521 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,560 INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO 1522 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,160 ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES AND 1523 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,560 MEASURES BUT HOW WILL THIS 1524 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,440 AFFECT ME IN THE RANKING AND 1525 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:08,640 RECRUITMENT OF STUDENTS. 1526 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,000 SPECIAL INSTITUTIONS PRESSURED 1527 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:17,200 FOR THE ENROLLMENT TO MAINTAIN 1528 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:17,440 BUDGET. 1529 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,160 WHEN YOU COME SPEAK CLOSELY INTO 1530 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,520 THE MIC AND LET'S GET A COUPLE 1531 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,680 DIFFERENT COMMENTS AND KEEP THEM 1532 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,320 BRIEF SO WE GET A CHANCE TO HEAR 1533 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,320 DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. 1534 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,560 >> I'M VERY GRAD TO HEAR I'M NOT 1535 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,960 THE ONLY ONE CALLING FOR THE 1536 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,880 REVOLUTION. 1537 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,960 IN SUPPORT OF YOU, WE CANNOT 1538 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,000 MAKE THE SYSTEM ANY WORSE BUT 1539 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,600 TRYING SIMPLE FORMS. 1540 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,800 QUESTION TO MELISSA YOU SAID 1541 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,640 LIBRARY CUTS ACROSS ALL 1542 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,960 DISCIPLINES AND DISCIPLINE 1543 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,560 AGNOSTIC. 1544 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,160 I'D LIKE EXAMPLES ON HOW YOU 1545 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,560 HELP VERY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS 1546 01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:05,040 TAKE UP SOME CITATIONS AND ALSO 1547 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,240 HOW LIBRARY CAN PROMULGATE IT 1548 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,960 AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER I WAS 1549 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,800 THINKING OF ONE OF THE ADDITION 1550 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:18,160 TO INCLUDE REPRODUCIBILITY AND 1551 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,040 MOST STUDENTS DEVELOP THEIR 1552 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,960 THESIS BEFORE THEY GRADUATE 1553 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,560 ESPECIALLY Ph.D. AND MASTER'S. 1554 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,200 IS THERE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH 1555 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,920 THEY'RE REQUIRING VARIOUS LEVELS 1556 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,000 OF DOCUMENTATION AND RIGOR. 1557 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,920 YOU HAVE MATERIALS TO DEPOSIT 1558 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,800 BEFORE THEY GRADUATE. 1559 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,520 THAT'S ANOTHER WAY AND A WAY TO 1560 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,960 ACHIEVE OPEN ACCESS IN THE 1561 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,400 THESIS MATERIAL AND SOFTWARE AND 1562 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,960 DATA ASSOCIATED WITH THE THESIS. 1563 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,160 >> THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION. 1564 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,640 LIBRARIES DO CUT ACROSS 1565 01:06:54,640 --> 01:07:00,360 DISCIPLINES AND MOST ACADEMIC 1566 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:10,840 LIBRARIES YOU'D BE USUALLY 1567 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,640 THAT'S ACROSS INSTITUTIONS AND 1568 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,960 ACROSS LIBRARIES IS THE WORK WE 1569 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,480 DO AND EVERY DISCIPLINE BEING 1570 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,320 DIFFERENT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE 1571 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,600 PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH DIFFERENT 1572 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:27,240 DISCIPLINES. 1573 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:28,240 THAT SAID THERE ARE A LOT OF 1574 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,160 THINGS LIBRARIES ARE DOING THAT 1575 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,640 ARE REALLY LOOKING AT MULTIPLE 1576 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,240 DIFFERENT KINDS OF DISCIPLINES 1577 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:41,960 AND ONE EXAMPLE I CAN THINK I OF 1578 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:52,520 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA 1579 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:23,720 [TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES] 1580 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,160 AND TEACHING SYSTEMATIC REVIEW 1581 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,920 TECHNOLOGIES AND TEACHING PEOPLE 1582 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,520 HOW TO ASSESS A PAPER, HOW TO DO 1583 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,120 LITERATURE SEARCHING, HOW TO 1584 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,200 CREATE A DATA MANAGEMENT PLAN, A 1585 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,200 LOT OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS 1586 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,280 HAVE SOME FIELD-SPECIFIC AREAS 1587 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,160 BUT REALLY THE CONCEPTS BEHIND 1588 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,920 THEM ARE GENERAL. 1589 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,600 SO WE'RE ABLE TO AFFECT AND TO 1590 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,320 REACH A LOT OF DIFFERENT 1591 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,680 DISCIPLINES ACROSS CAMPUS BY 1592 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,560 HAVING THOSE MORE INTRODUCTORY 1593 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,040 BASIC COURSES AND ONCE PEOPLE 1594 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,200 LEARN SOME OF THOSE BASIC SKILLS 1595 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,000 THEN THEY CAN GO ON AND TO DO 1596 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:01,960 MORE EDUCATION AND LEARNING 1597 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:10,240 WITHIN THEIR OWN FIELD. 1598 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,520 >> I'LL TALK ABOUT REVOLUTION 1599 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,080 AND EVOLUTION AND WHAT WE SHOULD 1600 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:22,720 BE DOING IS THOUGHTFUL 1601 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:23,120 REENGINEERING. 1602 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,920 LET'S FIX WHAT'S BROKEN WITHOUT 1603 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,800 BREAKING WHAT WORKS. 1604 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,200 INTERVENTIONS CAN HAVE 1605 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,160 UNANTICIPATED CONSEQUENCES AND 1606 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,560 THAT CAN BE PART OF EITHER THE 1607 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,360 FIELD OR REALITY PEOPLE PUSHBACK 1608 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:35,720 AND WITHOUT LOOKING AT LEVELS 1609 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:40,080 AND INSTITUTIONS, I WANTED TO 1610 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,960 SUGGEST A COUPLE IDEAS AT ANY 1611 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,240 GIVEN LEVEL PAYING ATTENTION TO 1612 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,800 THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING WELL 1613 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:53,400 AND ARE BEING DONE RIGHT AND 1614 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,800 HIGHLIGHT THOSE AND MAKE SURE 1615 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,800 AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE SUCCESSES 1616 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,200 HAPPENING AND LOOK AT A 1617 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:04,760 UNIVERSITY AND SAY EVERY 1618 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,880 DEPARTMENT HERE HAS A TENURE 1619 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:07,120 PROCESS. 1620 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:12,200 WHICH DEPARTMENTS REALLY SHINE? 1621 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,960 AND THAT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY 1622 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,440 FOR A PEER MODELLING AND FINDING 1623 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:17,040 WHAT'S WORKING IS GOING TO BE AN 1624 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:17,960 IMPORTANT PART OF LOOKING FOR 1625 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,520 CHANGE. 1626 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,960 >> I'M GLAD THAT COMMENT ABOUT 1627 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,160 PUSHING BACK ON THE REVOLUTION 1628 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,960 GENERATED COMMENTS. 1629 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:32,600 I DON'T KNOW -- I FORGET THE 1630 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,840 NAME OF THE PERSON WHO PROPOSED 1631 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,440 THE EVOLUTION IS RIGHT THERE 1632 01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:42,000 NEXT TO YOU. 1633 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,640 >> THIS IS A CONVERSATION AND 1634 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,960 PUSHBACK ON THE IDEA AND SEEMS 1635 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:52,160 TO BE RESONATING AND I WANTED 1636 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,640 YOU TO COMMENT ON IT. 1637 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,600 >> I DON'T MIND REVOLUTION. 1638 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,680 I LIKE THE IDEA BUT PEOPLE GET 1639 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,960 KILLED IN THEM AND YOU DON'T 1640 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:08,600 ALWAYS WIN. 1641 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,360 AND THE STARTING POINT THERE ARE 1642 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,160 BITS OF PROGRESS THAT WE CAN 1643 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,440 MAKE BY PERSUADING OTHERS. 1644 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:16,680 WE BELIEVE AS RESEARCHERS THAT 1645 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:21,120 WE CREATE DATA WHICH WE USING TO 1646 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,040 PERSUADE PEOPLE TO CHANGE THE 1647 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,560 WAY THE WORLD IS. 1648 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,440 IF WE CANNOT SHIFT THINGS BY 1649 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:28,320 PERSUASION MAYBE THERE'S 1650 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,720 SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE 1651 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,720 DIRECTION IN WHICH WE WISH TO 1652 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:31,880 GO. 1653 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,920 I'VE BEEN ON THE WRONG END OF 1654 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,480 SELF-APPOINTED EXPERTS WHO KNOW 1655 01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:38,560 THE WORLD SHOULD BE WHO SEEK TO 1656 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,560 IMPLEMENT IT AND DON'T THINK WE 1657 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,320 SHOULD FALL IN THE SAME TRAP. 1658 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,160 A GRADUALIST APPROACH IS MAYBE 1659 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,280 BETTER BUT I MAY BE SURPRISING 1660 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,000 PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME WITH MY 1661 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:50,320 CONSERVATISM. 1662 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:55,320 MAYBE I'M JUST GETTING OLD. 1663 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:56,600 >> THANK YOU. 1664 01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,880 I WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT 1665 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:01,840 ON HELIOS. 1666 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,000 IT'S A COALITION OF WILLING 1667 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,200 UNIVERSITIES TO EMBRACE OPEN 1668 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,760 SCIENCE THAT'S BEEN SET UP BY 1669 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,840 THE ROUNDTABLE FOR ALIGNING 1670 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:10,720 INCENTIVES FOR OPEN SCIENCE WITH 1671 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,840 THE NATIONAL ACADEMY. 1672 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,360 I THINK INSTITUTIONS ARE GIVEN A 1673 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,360 LIST OF THINGS THEY COULD DO BUT 1674 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,720 IT ISN'T FORMULATED IN THE WAY 1675 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:29,240 THAT TOPS FRAMEWORK IS SET UP 1676 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,480 WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET ON A BUS 1677 01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:36,240 AND DECIDE WHERE THEY WANT TO GO 1678 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,080 AND BENCHMARK AGAINST EACH 1679 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:38,600 OTHER. 1680 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:44,200 THAT ONE THING THAT WOULD 1681 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:45,480 BENEFIT HELIOS IS HAVING A ROAD 1682 01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:53,960 MAP FOR ADOPTING OPEN. 1683 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:54,800 >> YOU ARE ALL SEEDS AT 1684 01:12:54,800 --> 01:13:01,960 DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE ECO 1685 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,960 SYSTEM REFLECT ON HOW YOU 1686 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,600 ENVISION YOUR CLUSTER AND/OR HOW 1687 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,800 SPREAD MIGHT OCCUR WITHIN THE 1688 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,520 CLUSTER LET ALONE THE BRIDGES. 1689 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:13,960 I REFLECT BACK ON THAT AND HOW 1690 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:14,800 YOU SEE YOURSELVES IN THE ECO 1691 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:24,560 SYSTEM. 1692 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,400 >> I SEE IT AS PART OF THE 1693 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,960 PUZZLE. 1694 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,840 I REALLY APPRECIATE AND 1695 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,040 RECOMMEND "THE TALK" YESTERDAY 1696 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,240 AND THE BOOK IS IMPORTANT FOR 1697 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,240 HOW TO INSTILL CHANGE. 1698 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,000 I SEE IT IN TWO WAYS. 1699 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,720 HOW DO YOU HELP FACILITATE THAT 1700 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:45,920 TYPE OF CHANGE TO OCCUR. 1701 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,480 THAT'S ONE STEP. 1702 01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:49,320 THE OTHER I TRIED TO ILLUSTRATE 1703 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,680 AND IT'S DEFINITELY A HARD 1704 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,840 CHALLENGE IS ONE PIECE OF A 1705 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:55,080 PUZZLE. 1706 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,960 AND I GIVE NIH A TON OF CREDIT 1707 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,920 FOR THIS WITH THE GENERALIST 1708 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:02,800 REPOSITORY APPROACH IT'S NOT 1709 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,320 NECESSARY A COLLABORATION OR 1710 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:05,840 COMPETITION. 1711 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,600 THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND WHERE 1712 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:08,640 YOU'RE SEEING THERE'S DIFFERENT 1713 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,680 THINGS BUT YOU'LL WORK TOGETHER 1714 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,280 BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE'LL ALL 1715 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:12,480 RISE. 1716 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:13,960 WE'RE NOT SAYING MERGE IT INTO 1717 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,080 ONE TOOL. 1718 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,760 YOU HAVE TO TRULY MEET THE FAIR 1719 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:19,920 PRINCIPLES AND BE INTEROPERABLE 1720 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,600 AND HOW I VIEW IT IN TERMS OF 1721 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,120 THAT APPROACH BUT WE CAN CHAT 1722 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:23,440 MORE. 1723 01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:24,760 IT'S A GOOD TOPIC. 1724 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:25,440 >> THANK YOU. 1725 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:32,560 YOU DON'T NEED TO ASK A QUESTION 1726 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:42,000 AND WE CAN KEEP THE CONVERSATION 1727 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,200 GOING DIRECT THEM TO EACH OTHER 1728 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:49,920 OR HAVE OPEN QUESTIONS FOR 1729 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,320 ANYONE. 1730 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,640 CLOSER TO THE MIC, PLEASE. 1731 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,920 >> TWO BRIEF COMMENTS TO 1732 01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,200 STIMULATE THOUGHT AND 1733 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:57,960 DISCUSSION. 1734 01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,360 IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS ABOUT 1735 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,360 EXAMPLES OF GOOD PRACTICE AND 1736 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,600 ONE I FIND ESPECIALLY 1737 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,600 INTERESTING IS GENT UNIVERSITY 1738 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:09,840 IN BELGIUM. 1739 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,440 CHANGE THERE CAME YESTERDAY IN 1740 01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:13,960 MY TALK FROM THIS FRUSTRATION 1741 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,040 WITH PUBLISH OR PERISH. 1742 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,200 IT WAS STIMULATED AT THE TALK 1743 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,480 BUT IT WAS THE OFFICE OF 1744 01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,040 RESEARCH IN COLLABORATION WITH 1745 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,720 THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. 1746 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,600 YOU DON'T ALWAYS HEAR HUMAN 1747 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,480 RESOURCES BEING BROUGHT INTO THE 1748 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:33,680 CONVERSATIONS VERY INTERESTING 1749 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,600 OR OFTEN. 1750 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,640 AND THEN THE OTHER INTERESTING 1751 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,600 THINGS ABOUT CHANGE AT GENT WAS 1752 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:43,720 THEY RECOGNIZED THAT BESIDES U 1753 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,200 TRACT THEY'D BE ONE OF THE FIRST 1754 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,040 INSTITUTIONS TO DO IT AND THEY 1755 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,720 EMBRACED IT AND SAID ALL RIGHT, 1756 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:49,720 WE WANT TO BE A LEADER. 1757 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,440 THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF OUR 1758 01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:53,960 IDENTITY. 1759 01:15:53,960 --> 01:16:00,000 AND THE PART OF THE CHANGE 1760 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,440 PROCESS I THINK IS 1761 01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:02,120 TRANSFORMATIVE IS THEY SWITCHED 1762 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,280 IT FROM AN EVALUATION. 1763 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:05,960 IT'S STILL AN EVALUATION BUT 1764 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,640 IT'S MORE OF A COACHING MODEL. 1765 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,600 SO THEY LENGTHENED THE TENURE 1766 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,120 PROCESS AND SAID YOUR EVALUATION 1767 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,640 COMMITTEE IS NOW GOING TO BE 1768 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,000 LIKE A PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT 1769 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,280 COMMITTEE. 1770 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,360 SO NOW NEW FACULTY MEMBERS ARE 1771 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,680 ABLE TO MEET WITH THIS COMMITTEE 1772 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,160 EVERY YEAR, TALK ABOUT THE 1773 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,960 PROGRESS THEY'VE MADE, WHAT THEY 1774 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,480 WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE. 1775 01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:29,560 SO THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH OR 1776 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,680 WORKING WITH THAT COMMITTEE UP 1777 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,720 UNTIL THE POINT OF PROMOTION OR 1778 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:35,920 TENURE. 1779 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,760 AND ALL THIS IS DOCUMENTED IN 1780 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,760 THE CASE STUDY ON THE WEBSITE. 1781 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,360 YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT IT THERE. 1782 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,640 THEN THE OTHER EXAMPLE THAT I 1783 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:50,160 WANTED TO GO BACK TO IS TOUCHING 1784 01:16:50,160 --> 01:17:00,680 ON TOP-DOWN, BOTTOM-UP AND THE 1785 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:14,800 CREATION OF SIPS IN ABOUT 2013 1786 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:21,200 AND A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND THE 1787 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,640 GRADUATE STUDENTS STARTED HAVING 1788 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:23,760 CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WELL, 1789 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,960 THERE'S ALL THIS CHANGE FOR 1790 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:26,640 FACULTY EVALUATION BUT WE'RE 1791 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,320 STILL EVALUATED ON THE NUMBER OF 1792 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:30,920 PAPERS WE PUBLISH SO WHAT'S 1793 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:41,120 GOING ON. 1794 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,960 ORGANIZED WITH A NEW FRAME WORE 1795 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,760 FRAMEWORK AND PITCHED IT AND HAD 1796 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,480 A TAKER AND NOW THAT DEPARTMENT 1797 01:17:53,480 --> 01:17:55,200 IMPLEMENT THE NEW GRADUATE 1798 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,000 EVALUATION WHICH IS SPANNED OUT 1799 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,240 TO OTHER GRADUATE DEPARTMENTS 1800 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,840 AND THEY'RE IN THE PROGRESS OF 1801 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,040 EVALUATING SUCCESSES. 1802 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:12,680 THROWING THAT OUT AS EXAMPLES. 1803 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,360 >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS 1804 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:16,680 HERE. 1805 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:24,200 FIRST ON PROMOTION AND TENURE, 1806 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:29,600 MANY INSTITUTIONS ARE INTENSELY 1807 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,600 FOCUSSED IN DIVERSITY, EQUITY 1808 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:32,000 AND INCLUSION. 1809 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,000 THAT'S A MAJOR EFFORT AND THE 1810 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,600 EFFORTS DISCUSSED HERE NEED TO 1811 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,680 TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND NEED 1812 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:46,280 TO CONSIDER WHETHER FOCUS ON THE 1813 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,120 METRICS OF RIGOR BEING DISCUSSED 1814 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,640 AND BEAR RESOURCES TO MAY OR MAY 1815 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,840 NOT BE AVAILABLE TO CANDIDATES 1816 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:57,960 THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE 1817 01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,240 DISADVANTAGED AS A RESULT OF 1818 01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,440 WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND 1819 01:19:02,440 --> 01:19:13,120 SIT IN DISHA OF RESOURCES AND DO 1820 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,920 WE LOOK AT DIVERSITY AND 1821 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:20,200 INCLUSION? 1822 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:25,040 AND SHOULD WE BE DOING THIS IN A 1823 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:30,160 VACUUM AND IT WOULD BE AN 1824 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:34,480 OPPORTUNITY TO GET AND ENGAGE IN 1825 01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:38,600 A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW RIGOR AND 1826 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,440 DIVERSITY GO TOGETHER SO THAT 1827 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:42,440 WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIVERSE 1828 01:19:42,440 --> 01:19:44,040 CANDIDATES ONE METRIC YOU MIGHT 1829 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,680 LOOK FOR IF THEY'RE CLINICAL 1830 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:46,760 RESEARCHERS IS HOW DIVERSE ARE 1831 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:47,920 THE SUBJECTS THEY'RE RECRUITING 1832 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,120 INTO THEIR TRIALS. 1833 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,360 WHAT STEPS ARE THEY TAKING 1834 01:19:50,360 --> 01:20:00,840 BECAUSE IT'S PART OF RIGOR. 1835 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,160 THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 1836 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:11,840 >> IT MAKES ME OF WHAT WHAT IS 1837 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,520 CRITERIA AND THE SAME LIP 1838 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,560 SERVICE IN HIRING COMMITTEES AND 1839 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:16,640 DOCUMENTING WHERE WE SEE 1840 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,760 SOMETIMES ON PAPER THEY PUT THE 1841 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:20,680 REQUIREMENTS AND LANGUAGE AROUND 1842 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,640 DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION BUT 1843 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,960 THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY THE 1844 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,200 PRACTICES TO MAKE SURE THAT IS 1845 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,960 TAKING PLACE AND THOSE 1846 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:40,200 CONSIDERATIONS ARE PUT IN. 1847 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,960 TO BE MADE.OOK AT 1848 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,520 >> IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT IN 1849 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:47,840 OUR ACTIVITY. 1850 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,720 I WAS HIGHLIGHTING THOSE OPEN 1851 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:50,040 PRACTICES. 1852 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,400 THE WHOLE THING WE'RE DOING IS 1853 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:53,640 CALLED GOOD EVALUATION PRACTICE. 1854 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,040 THIS IS ABOUT EVALUATION IN 1855 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,880 GENERAL. 1856 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,040 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACADEMIC AGE 1857 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,280 AND ANONYMIZING THE AGE OF 1858 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:05,560 CANDIDATES. 1859 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,760 THE ISSUES OF UNCONSCIOUS BIAS. 1860 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:13,320 IT'S PART OF THE PRACTICE AND SO 1861 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:21,320 I FULLY AGREE. 1862 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,640 AND ARE WE ALREADY SUCCESSFUL IN 1863 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,320 DIFFERENT SELECTIONS. 1864 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,040 MAYBE THIS IS EVEN THE WRONG 1865 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:30,480 QUESTION. 1866 01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:34,640 THE DISCUSSION ABOUT EVALUATION 1867 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,360 IN PRACTICE IS A WAY TO START 1868 01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,040 THE CONVERSATION WITH THE 1869 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:38,320 FACULTY. 1870 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,760 THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED 1871 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:51,840 IN. 1872 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:55,680 THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST 1873 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:56,560 IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS WITH 1874 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,440 FACULTY AND TO ME THE MOST 1875 01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:00,240 IMPORTANT IMPACT THIS IS HAVING 1876 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:01,880 IS THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A 1877 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:12,400 VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION. 1878 01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,400 >> WHEN I STARTED AT THE 1879 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,560 UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO I WAS 1880 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,760 IN A FORTUNATE POSITION WHERE WE 1881 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,000 WENT TO OUR OWN ACADEMIC UNIT 1882 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,560 AND WE WROTE OUR OWN GUIDELINES 1883 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,040 AND DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND 1884 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:35,040 INCLUSION WERE THINGS WE ADDED 1885 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,360 AS WELL AS THE REPRODUCIBILITY 1886 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:42,600 AND RIGOR AND THERE'S THE 1887 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,040 DIVERSITY AND IN OUR PARTICULAR 1888 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:48,840 FIELD THERE'S ALL SORTS OF 1889 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,320 DIFFERENT THINGS WHETHER IT'S 1890 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,160 WEBSITES, EXHIBITS, MATERIAL 1891 01:22:54,160 --> 01:23:04,680 THAT HADN'T BEEN HIGHLY VALUED. 1892 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,160 AND CEMENT THESE ARE IMPORTANT 1893 01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:22,760 THINGS AND LED TO RIGOROUS 1894 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:31,920 SCHOLARSHIP. 1895 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:36,040 AND PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT IT 1896 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,880 BUT THE QUESTION IS IS IT THEN 1897 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,000 GETTING INSTITUTIONAL SUPPORT 1898 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:39,920 FOR PEOPLE TO ACT ON THE 1899 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:40,280 CONVERSATION? 1900 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,000 WHETHER WE AGREE WE WANT TO HAVE 1901 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,280 THESE THINGS AND MAYBE AS A UNIT 1902 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,160 WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION OR I 1903 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:46,040 HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT WHETHER I 1904 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,000 SHOULD HAVE THAT THING BUT THEN 1905 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,920 DO YOU GET THE SUPPORTS TO BE 1906 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,240 ABLE TO PUT IT INTO PRACTICE AND 1907 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:58,320 WHETHER IT BE IN THE HIRING OR 1908 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,120 THE EVALUATION. 1909 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,160 >> MY NAME IS WILLIAM YOUNG FROM 1910 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:05,200 THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO AND 1911 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:11,640 WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE 1912 01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,760 EARLIER CAREER GRADUATES AND 1913 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:21,880 THERE'S NO FORMALIZED PROFESTHE 1914 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,400 PROCESS AND THOSE WHO TRY TO 1915 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:24,920 LEARN THE RESEARCH SKILLS AND BE 1916 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:25,920 RIGOROUS IN THEIR RESEARCH. 1917 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,000 I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE 1918 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,200 THOUGHTS ON WHETHER GRADUATE 1919 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,920 STUDENTS OR POST-DOCS SHOULD BE 1920 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:34,640 PROMOTE AND PROVIDED STABLE 1921 01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,480 CONDITIONS AND CAREERS AS DOING 1922 01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:40,200 THE JOB AS FORMALIZED RESEARCH 1923 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:41,240 TRAINERS AND RIGOROUS 1924 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,640 RESEARCHERS OR DO YOU SEE A MORE 1925 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,640 TOP-DOWN EFFECT FROM TENURE, 1926 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,160 PROMOTION AND METRICS BEING 1927 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:56,400 CHANGED? 1928 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,840 >> MAYBE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL COME 1929 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,000 IN AND HAVE THE GOOD PRACTICES. 1930 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,880 WE FOUND WHEN WE SURVEYED 1931 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,320 FACULTY AS WELL SOMETIMES THE 1932 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:04,960 MORE ESTABLISHED PEOPLE FEEL 1933 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,200 MORE COMFORTABLE THEY CAN TAKE 1934 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,720 THE RISKS AROUND MAKING THOSE 1935 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:11,000 CHANGES. 1936 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,280 NOT SPECIFIC TO THE ECRs BUT TO 1937 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,400 THE STUDENTS BUT THERE ISN'T 1938 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,800 ALWAYS A CLEAR WHO ARE THE RIGHT 1939 01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:20,840 LEADERS OF CHANGE. 1940 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:25,280 SOMETIMES IT IS THE OLDER AND 1941 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,880 SOMETIMES THE YOUNGER. 1942 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,920 >> I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT 1943 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,160 IDEA TO ACKNOWLEDGE GRAD 1944 01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:33,440 STUDENTS. 1945 01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:35,400 IN OUR DEPARTMENT THE GRAD 1946 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,200 STUDENTS SEEM TO BE EXCITED 1947 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:38,920 ABOUT DOING THIS AND SOMETIMES 1948 01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,240 THEIR P.I. IS NO, NO, NO. 1949 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:42,520 IT'S MUCH FASTER IF WE DO IT 1950 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:49,200 THIS WAY. 1951 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,840 I HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT IT ALL 1952 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,320 THE TIME SO IT WOULD BE GREAT TO 1953 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,000 REWARD THEM FOR DOING THESE 1954 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:57,240 THINGS. 1955 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:58,440 >> IF I UNDERSTOOD WILL'S 1956 01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:01,200 QUESTION CORRECTLY, HE'S 1957 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,840 THINKING ABOUT PERMANENT 1958 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,480 POSITIONS TO HELP BRING ABOUT 1959 01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:09,880 CHANGE AS COMING FROM THE BOTTOM 1960 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,480 UP NOT SOMEONE LANDING AND 1961 01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:12,600 SAYING I'M GOING TO MAKE A 1962 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:13,560 CHANGE NOW. 1963 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:14,960 IS THAT CORRECT, WILL? 1964 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,720 >> IT FEELS LIKE ECRs ARE NOT 1965 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:19,920 RECOGNIZED AS A STAKEHOLDER IN 1966 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,600 THE CHANGE AND COMMITMENT TO 1967 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,320 CHANGING AND IMPROVING RESEARCH 1968 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:24,920 RIGOR. 1969 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,960 ONE EXAMPLE IN TENURE EVALUATION 1970 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,720 MIGHT BE IDENTIFYING THE FACULTY 1971 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,080 WHO ARE IMPROVING THE TRAINEE 1972 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,160 EXPERIENCE AND ALSO PROVIDING 1973 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,520 THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE 1974 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:43,360 ONE'S RESEARCH PRACTICES AND 1975 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,920 PERHAPS THE ROLE OF IMPROVING 1976 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:53,200 RESEARCH MAY NOT REQUIRE A 1977 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,160 PERMANENT POSITION OR 1978 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:55,960 INDEPENDENT POSITION THAT WILL 1979 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,240 ENFORCE OR ALLOW THIS KIND OF 1980 01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,560 CHANGE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 1981 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,840 >> I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK OFF 1982 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:04,800 THAT. 1983 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:05,440 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT 1984 01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,920 AUSTIN. 1985 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:13,160 STARTING A FACULTY JOB IS YOU'RE 1986 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,840 REALLY IN ISOLATION IT'S ABOUT 1987 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:15,560 YOU BUILDING YOUR INDIVIDUAL 1988 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:20,800 CAREER IN GRADUATE SCHOOL AND 1989 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,640 DOING THE SAME THING AND 1990 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:25,760 THINKING OF CATALYZING 1991 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,920 COMMUNITIES AND MANY ARE DOING 1992 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:29,680 CLUSTER HIRES. 1993 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:35,760 THE IDEA THE PEOPLE IN THAT 1994 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:36,760 CLUSTER FORM A COMMUNITY AND 1995 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:37,480 PERHAPS IF THOSE PEOPLE WERE 1996 01:27:37,480 --> 01:27:43,920 TRAINED AS PART OF THEIR CLUSTER 1997 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,000 HIRE BOOT CAMP TO HAVE RIGOR 1998 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,160 TRAINING AND THEN ONGOING 1999 01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,200 TRAINING THAT WOULD BE SORT OF 2000 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,720 THE LINK BETWEEN THE TOP-DOWN 2001 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,920 AND BOTTOM-UP BECAUSE THEY WOULD 2002 01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:06,240 BE THE WIDE BRIDGE. 2003 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,160 >> THERE'S DATA LIBRARIANS. 2004 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,520 HOW DOES THE BUDGET WORK? 2005 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:28,640 DO THE LABS PAY YOU FOR YOUR 2006 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,640 SERVICES IF YOU GIVE A CLASS OR 2007 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,200 UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA HAS 2008 01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,200 PEOPLE DO DATA CURATION. 2009 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:41,240 DO THE LABS PAY OR HAS THE 2010 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:48,120 UNIVERSAL ALLOCATED IT'S OWN 2011 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,640 AND IF THERE'S COLLABORATIONS 2012 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:50,520 WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT THE 2013 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:51,160 UNIVERSITY? 2014 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,720 >> THAT'S A GOOD AND COMPLICATED 2015 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:54,040 QUESTION. 2016 01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:59,520 I WOULD SUGGEST TALKING TO BOTH 2017 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,000 MYSELF AND HOW ABOUT IT WHEN 2018 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,760 WE'RE OFF THE RECORD. 2019 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,440 I WILL SAY THAT LIBRARIANS WE 2020 01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:09,920 ARE A PROFESSION THAT TENDS TO 2021 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,120 BE ALTRUISTIC. 2022 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,320 WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING FOR 2023 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,480 FREE AND THAT'S TO OUR DETRIMENT 2024 01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:19,120 A LOT OF THE TIME. 2025 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:23,280 SO NO LABS RARELY IF EVER PAY 2026 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:24,600 US. 2027 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:25,920 SOMETIMES WE'LL STICK SOMEONE ON 2028 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,640 A GRANT. 2029 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,360 BUT FOR THE MOST PART MOST 2030 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,920 LIBRARIES AREN'T PUSHING FOR 2031 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,200 THAT. 2032 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,200 I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW THAT 2033 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,400 ACTIVELY LOOKED AT CREATING 2034 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,840 SERVICES LIKE NIH RECHARGE 2035 01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,040 CENTERS WITHIN THE LIBRARY TO 2036 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,600 TRY TO RECOUP COSTS AND 2037 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:49,480 ENCOURAGE PARTNERSHIPS ON GRANTS 2038 01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:51,680 TO NOT ALLOW US TO DO THINGS 2039 01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:52,320 BEYOND OUR SCOPE IF WE'RE DOING 2040 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,640 IT FOR FREE. 2041 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,160 AND I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF 2042 01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,040 PUSHBACK ON THIS AS A LIBRARY 2043 01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,760 LEADER. 2044 01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,080 BUT CREATING REPRODUCIBILITY 2045 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:09,200 DOES TEND TO BE AT THE WEALTHIER 2046 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:09,520 INSTITUTIONS. 2047 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,920 THERE'S NO TWO WAYS AROUND THAT. 2048 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,200 THAT BEING SAID A LOT OF THE 2049 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:18,280 THINGS LIBRARIANS ARE ALREADY 2050 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:29,040 DOING ARE ALIGNED WITH RIGOR AND 2051 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,200 REPRODUCIBILITY AND CAN BE A 2052 01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,480 COMPONENT OF THEIR OR BRING IN 2053 01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:33,720 EXTERNAL RESOURCES AS WELL. 2054 01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,200 A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS 2055 01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,320 COORDINATE AND ALSO MAKE 2056 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:39,760 REFERRALS. 2057 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,440 SO FOR EXAMPLE WORKING WITH THE 2058 01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:44,000 CARPENTRIES, WORKING WITH 2059 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,160 REPRODUCIBILITY FOR EVERYONE AND 2060 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,000 SOME OF THESE OTHER LARGE-SCALE 2061 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,000 EFFORTS ARE THINGS WE CAN DO 2062 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,200 EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE FULL-TIME 2063 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:59,880 FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THAT. 2064 01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:01,520 HAVING INSTITUTIONS FUND THEIR 2065 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,080 LIBRARY AS WELL BECAUSE WE'RE A 2066 01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,960 CENTRAL RESOURCE AND CAN PROVIDE 2067 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,760 DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT REACH 2068 01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,760 EVERYONE INSTEAD OF SMALLER 2069 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:14,200 UNITS. 2070 01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:17,200 VOTE FOR YOUR LIBRARY BUT 2071 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,520 THEY'RE USUALLY FUNDED THROUGH 2072 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:22,680 CENTRALIZED FUND SO A LOT OF 2073 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:31,280 LIBRARY BUDGETS ARE SHRINKING. 2074 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,200 >> UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. 2075 01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,520 I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ABOUT 2076 01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,960 THE TOPIC OF RESEARCHER 2077 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,880 EVALUATION BECAUSE I THINK WE 2078 01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,000 SHOULD GET RID OF JOURNAL IMPACT 2079 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,600 FACTORS ENTIRELY AND WOULD LIKE 2080 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:51,200 TO POSE THE QUESTION TO THE 2081 01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,200 FUNDERS IN THE ROOM WHETHER IT'S 2082 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,720 EVEN REASONABLE OR POSSIBLE TO 2083 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,240 RANK GRANT PROPOSALS IN A TOP 2084 01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:06,040 1%, TOP 2% SORT OF WAY. 2085 01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:07,080 AND WHETHER YOU CONSIDER THE 2086 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,440 LOTTERY SYSTEMS IN OTHER PLACES 2087 01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:13,160 WHERE YOU HAVE A CUT OFF FOR 2088 01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,640 THESE PROJECTS AREN'T TO FIND 2089 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,240 AND LOOK AMONG THE PROPOSALS 2090 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:22,560 INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DO THIS 2091 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,200 VERY FINE-GRAIN RANKING WE KNOW 2092 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:25,840 IS NOT POSSIBLE, RIGHT. 2093 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,320 THERE'S A LOT OF STUDIES SHOWING 2094 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,200 THERE'S A VERY LOW RELIABILITY 2095 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,000 IN REVIEWER RATINGS FOR GRANT 2096 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:42,160 PROPOSALS. 2097 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:49,960 RETHINKING EVALUATION OR OTHER 2098 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,560 MODELS THAT LOOK AT THAT AND THE 2099 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:56,000 COMPETITION CULTURE INSTEAD OF 2100 01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:01,200 COLLABORATION CULTURE ENDS UP 2101 01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,840 HAVING NEGATIVE EFFECTS BECAUSE 2102 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,960 WE ARE CREATING ALL MODELS OF 2103 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:09,200 COMPETITION AND RANKING AT EVERY 2104 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:10,680 LEVEL FROM INDIVIDUALS IN THE 2105 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:11,440 CLASSROOM AND STUDENTS ALL THE 2106 01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:13,680 WAY TO THE FACULTY AND HOW WE DO 2107 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,920 THE HIRING AND HOW WE DO 2108 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,160 GRANTING AND EVALUATE 2109 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:26,400 INSTITUTIONS. 2110 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:27,400 PRESSURE ON PEOPLE. 2111 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,480 TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND WE'RE 2112 01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:32,600 NEAR THE END OF OUR TIME BUT 2113 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,360 LET'S TAKE THE LAST TWO 2114 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:35,680 >> THANK YOU FOR AN INTERESTING 2115 01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:36,080 QUESTION. 2116 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,360 I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW-UP ON WILL'S 2117 01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,240 COMMENT ABOUT ECRs AS IT RELATES 2118 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,120 TO PEOPLE WORKING FOR SCIENCE 2119 01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,880 IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE RE-THINKING 2120 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,280 OUR EVALUATION POLICIES -- 2121 01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:49,160 >> CLOSER TO THE MIC. 2122 01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,640 >> RE-THINKING OUR EVALUATION 2123 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,400 POLICIES HERE IS IMPORTANT TO 2124 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:54,680 WHERE THE FUTURE PEOPLE WHO WILL 2125 01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,840 BE IN THIS ROOM ARE GOING TO 2126 01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:58,480 COME FROM. 2127 01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:00,960 WE HELD A VIRTUAL BRAIN STORMING 2128 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:09,400 EVENT ABOUT A YEAR AGO WITH 54 2129 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,160 ECRs INVOLVED IN INITIATIVES TO 2130 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:12,880 IMPROVE CULTURE AND PRACTICE. 2131 01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,200 THEY WERE NOT WORK ON IMPROVING 2132 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:17,640 THEIR OWN SCIENCE BUT THE 2133 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:18,280 SCIENTIFIC SYSTEM. 2134 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:21,360 THE NUMBER ONE BARRIER ALL THOSE 2135 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:22,640 PEOPLE IDENTIFIED WAS THAT THEIR 2136 01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,120 WORK TO IMPROVE SCIENCE WAS NOT 2137 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:30,600 REWARDED OR INCENTIVIZED FOR 2138 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:31,800 CAREER CAREER PROGRESSION. 2139 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,200 IF WE'RE NOT REWARDING OR 2140 01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:35,600 INCENTIVIZING THOSE ACTIVITIES 2141 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,080 THEN THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE PUSHED 2142 01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:38,520 OUT OF SCIENCE AND WE'RE MISSING 2143 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,000 THE STRONGEST PEOPLE WE SHOULD 2144 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,840 HAVE COMING IN FOR THE NEXT 2145 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:44,120 GENERATION. 2146 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:47,520 THEY'RE ACTIVITIES MAY BE 2147 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:48,040 DETRIMENTAL FOR CAREER 2148 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:49,920 PROGRESSION BECAUSE THEY'RE 2149 01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:53,080 TAKING AWAY TIME FROM THE THINGS 2150 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,240 THAT ARE COUNTING TOWARDS CAREER 2151 01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:55,520 PROGRESSION. 2152 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,520 I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 2153 01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:58,760 TO KEEP IN MIND. 2154 01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,120 THE OTHER LESSONS LEARN FROM 2155 01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,080 THAT COMMENT WE HAVE OR FROM 2156 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,120 THAT EVENT WE HAVE COMPLIED INTO 2157 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,920 A DOCUMENT WITH 45 OF THE 2158 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,840 PARTICIPANTS LISTED AS AUTHORS. 2159 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:16,240 THAT WILL BE A CONSENSUS 2160 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,120 STATEMENT AND EMPOWER 2161 01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:19,040 RESEARCHERS FOR CAREER AND 2162 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:19,440 PRACTICE INCLUDES 2163 01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:20,640 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 2164 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,520 STAKEHOLDERS, INSTITUTIONS, 2165 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,560 JOURNALS, FUNDING AGENCIES, PEER 2166 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,280 COMMUNITIES AND SO ON AND SO 2167 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,040 FORTH AND INCLUDES LESSONS 2168 01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,480 LEARNED FOR ECRs WORKING ON 2169 01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:34,240 THEIR OWN INITIATIVES OR TOWARDS 2170 01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:35,080 SCIENCE IMPROVEMENT. 2171 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,160 WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO 2172 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:38,800 CHANGE INCENTIVES, IT'S NOT JUST 2173 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,240 FOR NORMAL RESEARCHERS, IT'S 2174 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,080 ALSO FOR OURSELVES. 2175 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:46,520 WE NEED TO INCENTIVIZE AND 2176 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,920 REWARD OUR OWN WORK. 2177 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:51,040 >> THANK YOU. 2178 01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:57,120 >> A BIT CHEEKY SINCE WE'RE 2179 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,760 GOING TO THE NEXT SESSION AND 2180 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,400 HOLD A POINT OF FIRE AND I DID 2181 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,560 WANT TO PICK ON NAOMI'S COMMENT 2182 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,160 AND REFLECT IT BACK WITH THE 2183 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:09,320 PANEL AND AT THE EARLIER PANEL 2184 01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:13,160 THERE ARE ASPECTS I THINK WITH 2185 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:17,120 WHAT MALCOLM WAS DESCRIBING 2186 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,680 YESTERDAY OF RESEARCH INGRIT. 2187 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,920 I WANTED TO PUT BACK ON THE 2188 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,840 TABLE CONSIDERATIONS OF WHAT WE 2189 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:32,280 REFER TO AS INCLUSION BY DESIGN. 2190 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:33,800 COMMENTS ON DIVERSITY AND 2191 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:38,840 INCLUSION OF AN APPLICANT OR 2192 01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:40,360 THOSE WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND 2193 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:41,720 INCLUSION BY DESIGN IS THINKING 2194 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:42,360 ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE ACTUAL 2195 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:47,520 RESEARCH ITSELF. 2196 01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:48,320 IN THE U.K. WE'RE SEEING 2197 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:49,960 CRITICAL QUESTIONS BEING ASKED 2198 01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,520 ABOUT CLINICAL TRIALS AND TRYING 2199 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,920 TO REVOLUTIONIZE WHAT THAT LOOKS 2200 01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:56,120 LIKE. 2201 01:36:56,120 --> 01:37:01,880 I THINK WE'RE NOT TALK THAT IN 2202 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,560 THIS WORKSHOP BECAUSE THERE'S 2203 01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:06,080 FUM 2204 01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:07,200 FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS OF STRUCTURE 2205 01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,400 AND HOW THINGS LOOK THAT MAY PUT 2206 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,120 PRESSURE ON RIGOR. 2207 01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:12,680 NOT NECESSARILY ON BEING 2208 01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,200 RIGOROUS BUT CHANGING THE 2209 01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:16,560 CULTURE OF HOW RIGOR MIGHT LOOK 2210 01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,120 AND IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT THE 2211 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:20,480 FEEDBACK MIGHT LOOK LIKE WHETHER 2212 01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:21,800 IT'S FOR AN EARLY CAREER 2213 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:22,960 RESEARCHER OR SOMEONE ELSE IF 2214 01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,920 PEOPLE ARE COMING UP WIN OR 2215 01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:26,920 CHALLENGING HOW THINGS -- WITH 2216 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,480 OR CHALLENGING HOW THINGS ARE 2217 01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:31,920 DONE AND ASKING DIFFERENT TYPES 2218 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,560 OF QUESTIONS ESPECIALLY IF 2219 01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:35,760 THEY'RE TALKING WITH DIFFERENT 2220 01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:37,000 POPULATIONS OR WANT DIFFERENT 2221 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,920 ENGAGEMENT WITH THE WORK THEY'RE 2222 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:39,400 DOING. 2223 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:40,880 THERE'S SOMETHING THERE THAT 2224 01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:41,800 WOULD BE INTERESTING TO CONTINUE 2225 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:42,840 TO TEASE APART. 2226 01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,400 >> WE HAVE TIME TO CONTINUE 2227 01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,480 OR -- I THINK WE BETTER -- 2228 01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:53,160 THAT'S A NICE NOTE TO END ON AND 2229 01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,840 OPENS UP MORE CONVERSATION ON 2230 01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,120 THE DIVERSITY AND THE WORK I'VE 2231 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,800 DONE IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT 2232 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:02,320 ELEMENTS OF SCHOLARSHIP AND 2233 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,000 DIFFERENT OUTPUTS AND WHAT KIND 2234 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,600 OF WORK AND HOW ACADEMICS SPEND 2235 01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,400 THEIR TIME AND HOW THE REWARD 2236 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,520 SYSTEMS PUT IN PLACE OFTEN 2237 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,840 CHANNEL US TO A PARTICULAR KIND 2238 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:17,120 OF ACTIVITY THAT THE PATH OF 2239 01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,560 LEAST RESISTANCE AND THERE'S TWO 2240 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:20,720 COUNTS ONES VERY MOTIVATED 2241 01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:21,560 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO 2242 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,040 SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THE ONES 2243 01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,400 THAT ARE WANTING TO SAY WHAT I 2244 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:26,720 NEED TO KNOW THE RULES AND THE 2245 01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,560 RULES OF THE GAME ARE CLEAR WHEN 2246 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,280 IT'S PUBLICATIONS AND THESE 2247 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,120 JOURNALS THAT FOLLOW THIS MODEL. 2248 01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,520 THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF 2249 01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,920 SEEING OR TYPES OF ECRs. 2250 01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,120 THOSE ARE I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE 2251 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,480 REWARDS, I'M JUST GOING TO DO IT 2252 01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:45,880 AND THEN I'M GOING TO FIRST GET 2253 01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,920 ESTABLISHED BUT I THINK WE NEED 2254 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,600 TO THINK OF THE CONVERSATION AND 2255 01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,720 RIGOR AND REPRODUCIBILITY OR 2256 01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:53,000 QUALITY. 2257 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:54,600 ALL THOSE IS LIKE HOW DO OUR 2258 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,000 SYSTEMS AND WE HAVE SEEN THE 2259 01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,760 NEEDS FOR THE SUPPORTS FOR THE 2260 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,920 TECHNOLOGIES IN PLACE AND POEM 2261 01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,840 TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORTS AND WE 2262 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,880 NEED TO BE VALUING THOSE THINGS 2263 01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,120 AND STARTING THE CONVERSATIONS. 2264 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:10,200 THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR 2265 01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:11,480 PRESENTATIONS AND FOR ENGAGING 2266 01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:21,600 WITH US. 2267 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,200 WE'RE GOING TO START THE SESSION 2268 01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,400 ON WORKING TOGETHER SO REALLY 2269 01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:33,000 SORT OF TAKING A LOOK AT THE 2270 01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:38,640 SYSTEM IN WHICH IN WHICH WE 2271 01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:39,880 OPERATE AND THE PANEL DISCUSSION 2272 01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,080 WILL BE MODERATED BY KAREN SALT. 2273 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,120 SHE'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR 2274 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:45,800 R&D, CULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT AT 2275 01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,120 UKRI. 2276 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,960 AND I'LL LET HER INTRODUCE THE 2277 01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,600 REST OF THE PANEL. 2278 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,280 SIMILAR PRESENTATIONS FOLLOWED 2279 01:39:55,280 --> 01:40:00,200 BY A PLENARY DISCUSSION AND THEN 2280 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,360 THE LAST 30 MINUTES OF TODAY AND 2281 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:03,600 I'M SAYING THIS NOW SO YOU CAN 2282 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:07,040 GET YOUR THINKING JUICES GOING, 2283 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,000 WE WILL DISCUSS HOW WE ARE 2284 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,440 BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS ROOM, HOW 2285 01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:11,840 DO WE WANT TO TAKE THE IDEAS 2286 01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,880 THAT WERE DISCUSSED OVER THE 2287 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,800 LAST TWO DAYS AND TURN THEM INTO 2288 01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:18,720 ACTIONABLE THINGS. 2289 01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,360 HOW DO WE ACT ON ALL THE 2290 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:24,960 STRATEGIES AND IDEAS DISCUSSED 2291 01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:25,600 IN THE TWO DAYS. 2292 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:27,920 YOU'LL BE SUGGESTING THESE WAYS 2293 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:37,600 SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU 2294 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:45,640 PREP 2295 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,280 PREPARE FOR THAT. 2296 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:54,760 AND WE'LL BE SKIPPING THE BREAK. 2297 01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,600 WE GOT MOST OF OUR FOLKS BACK. 2298 01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,960 IT'S ALWAYS SLOW THE AFTER-LUNCH 2299 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,240 CROWD WHERE YOU'RE A BIT SLEEPY 2300 01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,680 AND TIRED AND TOWARDS THE END OF 2301 01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:07,920 THE DAY A BIT FED UP. 2302 01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:09,800 HOPEFULLY WE CAN STIMULATE YOU 2303 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:15,000 AND GIVE YOU THINGS TO THINK 2304 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:20,480 ABOUT AND START TO DRAW TOGETHER 2305 01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:25,120 WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. 2306 01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:26,720 I'M EXCITED BY THIS PANEL AND 2307 01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:27,800 THE BRILLIANT WORK I THINK 2308 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:33,000 THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH 2309 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,080 YOU. 2310 01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:37,600 WE'LL BE GOING IN ORDER OF THE 2311 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:41,480 AGENDA. 2312 01:41:41,480 --> 01:41:49,840 WE'LL START WITH SOPHIA CRUWELL 2313 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:55,600 AND THEN MARYROSE FRANCO AND 2314 01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,720 MARCUS MUNAFÒ AND NAY OMIC 2315 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:00,400 SCHRAG FROM COLOMBIA UNIVERSITY. 2316 01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:04,240 YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL THEIR BIOS 2317 01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:05,240 CONTAINED WITHIN THE AGENDA 2318 01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:08,680 INFORMATION AND CAN I ASK THE 2319 01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:10,880 PANELISTS IF THERE'S ANYTHING 2320 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,000 CRUCIAL YOU HAVEN'T PUT IN YOUR 2321 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,880 BIO YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO 2322 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:21,360 SHARE PLEASE DO AND COULD BE A 2323 01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:31,760 NICE WAY TOO . 2324 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:32,920 THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 2325 01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:37,840 THIS PARTICULAR PANEL I THINK IS 2326 01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:41,320 A REALLY GOOD ONE THE ORGANIZERS 2327 01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:45,880 HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB IN 2328 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:47,480 ANCHORING THE CONVERSATION AND 2329 01:42:47,480 --> 01:42:49,600 WHAT MIGHT WE DO AS A GROUP AND 2330 01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:56,040 USE WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING. 2331 01:42:56,040 --> 01:43:01,800 WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF 2332 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,880 AND MOVEMENTS AND WHAT HAS NOT 2333 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,240 WORKED AND WE'RE NOT USUALLY 2334 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,560 GOOD AT STOPPING AND 2335 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:10,240 ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT DOESN'T WORK 2336 01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,320 AND IT'S A BIG BOOK OF MINE IN 2337 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:13,600 THE POLICY WORLD AND KEEPS 2338 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,320 ADDING MORE THINGS AND HOW TO 2339 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:15,880 BUILD STRONGER. 2340 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,520 WHAT ARE WAYS TO ULTIMATELY DO 2341 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,600 THAT. 2342 01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:27,400 I WOULD ADD PROBABLY ANOTHER 2343 01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,640 QUESTION AND OUR ORGANIZERS PUT 2344 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,000 TOGETHER, HOW DO WE BE MORE 2345 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:32,280 STRATEGIC? 2346 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:37,960 WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? 2347 01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:38,600 I'VE OFFERED YESTERDAY AND 2348 01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:39,920 THROUGHOUT MOST THE DAY 2349 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:41,640 QUESTIONS ABOUT SYSTEMS. 2350 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,200 SOME IS SYSTEMS THINKING. 2351 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:45,960 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO 2352 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:51,440 CREATE SOLUTIONS AIMED AT ALL 2353 01:43:51,440 --> 01:44:01,240 THE ENTIRE SOLUTION BUT THINK 2354 01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,920 SYSTEMS AND ORIENTATION AND 2355 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:04,920 THINGS I'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE 2356 01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:06,920 SESSION MOVING FORWARD. 2357 01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:12,160 WHAT'S THE WORK LOAD LOOK LIKE 2358 01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:21,040 FOR THIS WORK? 2359 01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,640 WE THINK OF INFRASTRUCTURE BUT 2360 01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:27,480 WHO WILL DO IT AND WHAT'S THE 2361 01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:28,800 WORKLOAD AND WHAT DOES IT FEEL 2362 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:39,280 LIKE TO DO THAT KIND OF WORK 2363 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:44,480 WHAT'S WITH NEGATIVE FEEDBACK 2364 01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:47,000 AND SEEN AS A POLICE OFFICER 2365 01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:55,400 THAN A COLLABORATOR. 2366 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,920 AND WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE 2367 01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,920 COMPETING PRIORITIES MANY ARE 2368 01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:02,800 GRAPPLING WITH THAT ARE ALL 2369 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,080 ESSENTIAL AND THINGS YOU WANT TO 2370 01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,120 DO RIGHT NOW. 2371 01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:08,680 HOW DO WE SITUATE RIGOR SO IT 2372 01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:09,840 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A TRADE-OFF. 2373 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:10,720 WE HAVE TO GIVE UP ONE THING TO 2374 01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:16,440 DO ANOTHER? 2375 01:45:16,440 --> 01:45:20,520 AND TO PICK UP ON MALCOLM'S 2376 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,600 POINT FROM BEFORE ABOUT 2377 01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:24,400 INCREMENTAL REVOLUTION AND 2378 01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,160 CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS AND 2379 01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:27,920 PROVOCATIONS OTHERS RAISED I'D 2380 01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:35,720 LIKE TO TAKE THAT TO A SLIGHTLY 2381 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:41,640 DIFFERENT SPACE. 2382 01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:45,640 I'M THINKING MACRO AND MICRO. 2383 01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:50,680 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 2384 01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,640 DEPARTMENTAL AND COMMUNITY AND 2385 01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:57,600 LOCATED AROUND THE STRUCTURE AND 2386 01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:01,600 MACRO AND MICRO ECONOMICS ARE TO 2387 01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:06,400 UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT LEVELS AND 2388 01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:15,240 SCALES. 2389 01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,240 SOMETIMES AT THE MICROLEVEL BUT 2390 01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,760 SOMETIMES THE MACRO LEVEL AND 2391 01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:21,600 INFLUENCES ENTAIL. 2392 01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,880 WE KIND OF NEED BOTH TO GET 2393 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:25,760 UNDERNEATH WHAT WE'RE TALKING 2394 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:36,080 ABOUT WITH RIGOR. 2395 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:49,040 I ROUTINELY STRUGGLE ABOUT WHAT 2396 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,080 WORKS. 2397 01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,600 WHAT HAVE A PROBLEM OF 2398 01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:54,560 INTERVENTION CONVERGENCE. 2399 01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,600 PEOPLE DO A LOT OF THINGS AND 2400 01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:03,920 GET ANY RETURN OF ANY KIND 2401 01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,560 DOESN'T MATTER HOW SPELL AND GET 2402 01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,200 POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT 2403 01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:09,480 EVERYTHING WORKS. 2404 01:47:09,480 --> 01:47:12,920 WE CONTINUE WITH THIS BARRAGE 2405 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:18,480 AND BIG LIST OF STUFF OPPOSED TO 2406 01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:23,240 UNDERSTANDING THE PARTICULAR 2407 01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:24,520 INTERVENTION AND THAT'S WHAT I 2408 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,280 MEAN BY INTERVENTION CONVERGENCE 2409 01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,640 AND WHEN WE WANT TO PICK STUFF 2410 01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,680 UP BECAUSE OFTEN PICK UP THE 2411 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:33,400 WHOLE THING AND TRY TO MOVE IT 2412 01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:37,120 TO ANOTHER LOCATION OPPOSED TO 2413 01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,920 THINKING OF THE MICRO LEVEL 2414 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,440 THINGS PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED WITH 2415 01:47:41,440 --> 01:47:49,600 AND WE'VE GOT A SET OF PANELIST 2416 01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:56,640 S -- AND THINGS AT MICRO LEVEL 2417 01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:03,920 AND OTHERS AT THE MACRO LEVEL 2418 01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,240 AND PULLING TOGETHER LARGE 2419 01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,520 AMBITIONS AND MAKE THE AIMS ARE 2420 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,920 SMALL AND MAYBE THE GOALS AND 2421 01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:12,240 TRANSFORMATIONS HAVE A CLEAR 2422 01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:12,960 OUTPUT AND OUTCOMES. 2423 01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:18,720 BUT THEY ARE REALLY TRYING TO 2424 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,440 TARGET AND MOVE THROUGH 2425 01:48:20,440 --> 01:48:22,600 HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THE WAYS 2426 01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,960 THEY HAVE INTERVENTIONS. 2427 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,240 WE'LL TAKE 10 MINUTES FOR EACH 2428 01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:31,560 OF OUR PRESENTERS TODAY AND THEN 2429 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,960 WHAT WE WILL DO IS AS VERONIQUE 2430 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:36,600 JUST MENTIONED WE'LL FLOW INTO 2431 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,360 AN OPEN Q&A. 2432 01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:39,480 I MIGHT HAVE SOME DIRECT 2433 01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:40,880 QUESTIONS FOR OUR PANELISTS 2434 01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:41,760 FIRST TO GET US GOING. 2435 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,080 SO WHAT I WOULD REALLY 2436 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:49,320 APPRECIATE YOU DOING AS YOU 2437 01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:53,600 LISTEN TO THEM IS START JOTTING 2438 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,240 QUESTIONS COMING TO YOU AND USE 2439 01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:57,440 THIS TO LINK THROUGH THE LAST 2440 01:48:57,440 --> 01:49:00,600 DAY AND THINGS DISCUSSED AT THE 2441 01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:01,880 BREAKOUTS, CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE 2442 01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:03,840 HAD AT LUNCHES OR ON THE SIDE 2443 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:08,880 WITH OTHERS AND THEN OTHER 2444 01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:10,280 THINGS THAT OTHERS HAVE 2445 01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:11,160 MENTIONED AND YOU DON'T JUST 2446 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:12,480 HAVE TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE 2447 01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:13,320 BEEN THE SPEAKERS. 2448 01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:14,920 WE WANT TO TRY TO TALK TO THE 2449 01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:20,680 WHOLE AUDIENCE AND ENGAGE WITH 2450 01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:22,520 EACH OTHER DYNAMICALLY MOVING 2451 01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:22,760 FORWARD. 2452 01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:27,960 I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR RIGHT 2453 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:29,600 NOW. 2454 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:34,000 SOME FR PROVOCATIONS AND THINKI 2455 01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,280 FORWARD AND I'VE BEEN ASSURED 2456 01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,640 WE'RE READY TO GO ON ALL THE 2457 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,760 TECH. 2458 01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,880 WE HAVE OUR TEAM AT THE READY. 2459 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:52,400 WITHOUT FURTHER ADO OVER TO YOU. 2460 01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:04,840 >> SO HERE'S WHY I'M HERE. 2461 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:06,680 I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT I 2462 01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,960 HOPE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A 2463 01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,640 SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY OF RIGOR 2464 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:24,120 CHAMPIONS, REPRODUCIBILITY. 2465 01:50:29,480 --> 01:50:32,160 I'LL BRIEFLY TELL YOU WHAT 2466 01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:33,560 REPRODUCIBILITY IS AND WHY IT 2467 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:34,760 SEEMS TO BE WORKING AND HOW WE 2468 01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:35,400 GOT HERE. 2469 01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,800 AS YOU SAID, WE'VE GOT LOTS OF 2470 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:44,360 Rs IN THIS WORKSHOP AND I'M 2471 01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:48,760 ADDING ANOTHER TO CONFUSE THAT 2472 01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,600 AND ASIDE FROM THAT THERE'S A 2473 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,120 GRASSROOTS INITIATIVE WE STARTED 2474 01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:52,960 FOUR YEARS AGO. 2475 01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,680 IT'S LED AND ORGANIZED ON THE 2476 01:50:55,680 --> 01:51:01,600 LOCAL AND GLOBAL LEVEL BY 2477 01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:11,760 VOLUNTEERS. 2478 01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,120 THERE'S A STEERING COMMITTEE AND 2479 01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:15,800 TRY TO TAKE THAT AS BEST WE CAN 2480 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:16,960 AND IN THIS CONTEXT IT'S 2481 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:18,080 IMPORTANT TO MENTION OUR FOCUS 2482 01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:23,480 IS LARGELY ON PSYCHOLOGY. 2483 01:51:23,480 --> 01:51:25,640 WE DO HAVE A FOCUS ON 2484 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,960 NEUROSCIENCE AND IN THE 2485 01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:38,240 PSYCHOLOGY AREA. 2486 01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:46,960 AND I JUST WANTED TO DO THIS IN 2487 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:48,440 FRONT OF LOTS OF PEOPLE AND THIS 2488 01:51:48,440 --> 01:51:53,560 IS ME FOUR YEARS AGO. 2489 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,000 WE WERE ALL AND WE WERE TALKING 2490 01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:56,760 ABOUT CAREER AT THAT POINT AND 2491 01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:58,200 SAM JUST STARTED HIS FIRST 2492 01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:02,200 POST-DOC AND A STARTED MY 2493 01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,120 MASTER'S AND WE WERE A BIT 2494 01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:08,040 DISSATISFIED BY THE LACK OF 2495 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:09,400 DISCUSSION AROUND OPEN AND 2496 01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,800 RIGOROUS RESEARCH OR DISCUSSIONS 2497 01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:12,960 ACCESSIBLE TO US. 2498 01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:14,800 THERE WASN'T MUCH GOING ON AND 2499 01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:17,800 LOOKING FOR UCRs BEYOND THE 2500 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:22,560 THREE OF US RANTING OR TALKING 2501 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,000 EXCITEDLY ABOUT THE THINGS 2502 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:25,320 CHANGING. 2503 01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,480 WE STARTED THIS JOURNEY AT 2504 01:52:27,480 --> 01:52:32,760 OXFORD AND WENT QUITE WELL AND 2505 01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:43,480 TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT WE 2506 01:52:43,480 --> 01:52:48,560 HAVE LOCAL ORGANIZERS AND 2507 01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:57,120 SOMEONE ELSE AND WE BEEN 2508 01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:57,680 DISCUSSING THIS ALMOST THE 2509 01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:00,440 ENTIRE TIME. 2510 01:53:00,440 --> 01:53:06,120 WHAT IS IT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING 2511 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:16,440 IN ALL THESE CLUBS? 2512 01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,600 THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE 2513 01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:27,080 OFTEN THERE'S NO FORMAL TRAINING 2514 01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:31,480 IN THESE PRACTICES. 2515 01:53:31,480 --> 01:53:33,600 AND WE'RE PLANNING THE GAP TO 2516 01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:34,800 SOME EXTENT BY DISCUSSING 2517 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,840 RELEVANT PAPERS AND EXPLORING 2518 01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:39,840 IDEAS SURROUNDING OPEN AND 2519 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,640 RIGOROUS RESEARCH. 2520 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,000 BY DOING THAT WE ARE ALSO MAKING 2521 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,760 THESE ISSUES VISIBLE AT 2522 01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:50,760 INSTITUTION WHERE'S POTENTIALLY 2523 01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:51,560 THAT WASN'T THAT VISIBLE BEFORE 2524 01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:53,600 AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT AIM. 2525 01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,200 I THINK IT'S A TROJAN HORSE 2526 01:53:56,200 --> 01:54:01,440 BECAUSE IT'S WHAT YOU CAN SELL 2527 01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:04,040 TO YOUR SUPERVISOR AND I'M 2528 01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:05,640 LEARNING ABOUT THEM. 2529 01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:10,440 I MAY TAKE THEM UP. 2530 01:54:10,440 --> 01:54:16,000 I THINK THE KEY IS COMMUNITY AND 2531 01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:22,520 I ENJOY THIS THE COMMUNITY WORKS 2532 01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:27,160 ON TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS AND MADE 2533 01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,200 UP BY SUPPORTIVE PEERS AND 2534 01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:32,240 SUPPORTING EACH OTHER THROUGH 2535 01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:33,200 DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THEY MAY BE 2536 01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,000 EXPERIENCING AND TRYING TO 2537 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,080 IMPLEMENT NEW PRACTICES THAT MAY 2538 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:43,480 BE AREN'T NORMAL IN THE CONTEXT 2539 01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:45,240 AND SHARING EXPERIENCES AND 2540 01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:45,480 ISSUES. 2541 01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:47,880 LOWERING BARRIERS, MAKING THINGS 2542 01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:49,960 A BIT MORE ACCESSIBLE AND THEN 2543 01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:56,000 ON THE OTHER HAND WE HAVE THE 2544 01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:59,080 GLOBAL COMMUNITY WE'VE HAD SOME 2545 01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,200 DIFFERENT TIME ZONES. 2546 01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:05,160 IT'S BEEN TWICE FUN AND WE HAVE 2547 01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:08,160 THAT ONE HAND LOCAL AUTONOMY AND 2548 01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,400 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN 2549 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:14,560 THE INDIVIDUAL JOURNAL CLUBS 2550 01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,000 UNTIL WE COLLABORATE ON BIGGER 2551 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:18,520 THINGS AND WE HAVE THE SUPPORT 2552 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:23,680 SYSTEM AND ENTITY TO USE. 2553 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,360 SO WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED FROM THE 2554 01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:31,520 LAST FOUR YEARS, WHY DO I THINK 2555 01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:36,600 THIS IS WORKING? 2556 01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:37,760 LOCAL AUTONOMY AND SUPPORT IS 2557 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:45,640 IMPORTANT AND WE TRIED TO MAKE 2558 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:52,760 THE THRESHOLD BY STARTING THIS 2559 01:55:52,760 --> 01:56:03,240 FUNDER GAPS AND WE SENT OUT 2560 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:07,000 STICKERS AND ALL THESE THINGS -- 2561 01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:13,200 IT SEEMS SILLY BUT IT BRINGS ME 2562 01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:14,920 TO THE NEXT POINT AND IT SOUNDS 2563 01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:16,920 SILLY BUT WE KIND OF CREATED A 2564 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:18,160 BRAND WITH THE LOGO AND THE 2565 01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:24,280 MATERIALS WE CREATED AND THE BAD 2566 01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:25,560 PUNS. 2567 01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:29,000 IT PROVIDES A LEGITIMACY AND 2568 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:30,120 LOOKS LIKE AN EVENT NOT JUST A 2569 01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:40,360 JOURNAL CLUB. 2570 01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:45,280 WE HAD A PODCAST BRINGING THE 2571 01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,320 EXPERIENCE TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT 2572 01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,640 NOT HAVE THAT COMMUNITY WHERE 2573 01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:55,400 THEY ARE. 2574 01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,600 AND WE GOT THAT FUNDING WHICH 2575 01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:07,920 WAS SUPER HELPFUL. 2576 01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:15,440 AND WE WERE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WAS 2577 01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:16,640 WORKING AND WHAT ISN'T. 2578 01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,960 THIS ONE IS SAYING IT'S NOT ONLY 2579 01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,040 GRAS ROOTS IT'S COMMUNED 2580 01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:25,600 BUILDING AND GIVING A HOME TO 2581 01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,840 THOSE FOR SOLUTIONS AND JOINING 2582 01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:30,240 AND WANTING TO BE PART OF A BIG 2583 01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:30,560 CHANGE. 2584 01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:32,000 IT'S ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT 2585 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:33,320 GIVES ME HOPE BECAUSE WE ARE THE 2586 01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:37,600 CHANGE THAT'S NEEDED IN PRACTICE 2587 01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:47,800 AND CULTURE. 2588 01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:15,760 >> THE MOST EXCITING THINGS IS 2589 01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:17,640 WATCHING YOU SMILE WHEN YOU WERE 2590 01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,440 TALKING ABOUT THE WORK. 2591 01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:20,600 . 2592 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:22,080 I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 2593 01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,560 RIGOR AND BEING SERIOUS OVER THE 2594 01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:27,240 LAST DAY AND A BIT BUT IT'S 2595 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:31,680 EXCITING TO GET THAT ENERGY OF 2596 01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,240 FUN AND FRIVOLITY AND EXCITEMENT 2597 01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:34,080 THAT'S DRAWN US TOGETHER. 2598 01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:37,360 I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO FIND 2599 01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:40,040 FUN IN WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE 2600 01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:50,440 OPPOSED TO VERY SERIOUS. 2601 01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,200 I HAVE LOADS OF QUESTIONS AND 2602 01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:58,000 WILL HOLD MINE TO THE END AND 2603 01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:03,880 SEND IT OVER TO MARYROSE. 2604 01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:07,960 >> I'M MARYROSE FRANCO AND IT'S 2605 01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:11,200 I'M PART AVA LICENSE OF 2606 01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,640 NON-PROFIT, NON GOVERNMENTAL 2607 01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,720 FUNDERS AND MAXIMIZING RESEARCH 2608 01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:20,800 TO IMPROVE HUMAN HEALTH AND I 2609 01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:25,600 THINK EVERYONE AGREES INCREASING 2610 01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,960 RIGOROUS SCIENCE WOULD IMPACT 2611 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:28,440 RESEARCH. 2612 01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,160 THAT'S OUR LOGO SLIDE. 2613 01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:32,000 YOU CAN SEE DIVERSE WE ARE IN 2614 01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:36,280 TERMS OF MISSION AND SIZE AND 2615 01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:38,680 THEY'RE VERY DIVERSE OF COURSE 2616 01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:41,320 IN THE RESOURCES THEY'RE WILLING 2617 01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:43,560 TO DEVOTE TOWARDS RIGOR AND OPEN 2618 01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:44,240 SCIENCE. 2619 01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:45,520 SOME ARE ON THE CUTTING EDGE AND 2620 01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:52,440 OF COURSE YOU HAVE RESISTERS AS 2621 01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:52,640 WELL. 2622 01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:58,080 WE TRY TO BRING RESOURCES TO 2623 01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:01,560 BEAR AND PRESTIGE FROM FUNDING 2624 02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:02,440 ORGANIZATIONS AND HOPEFULLY 2625 02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:04,040 BROADEN THE COALITION OF THE 2626 02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:14,200 WILLING. 2627 02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:18,840 I'LL TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES THAT 2628 02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:22,040 CAN BE USED TO FACILITATE MORE 2629 02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:26,240 RIGOROUS RESEARCH AND ERIC 2630 02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:27,560 CHARACTERISTICS THAT CAN WORK IN 2631 02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:29,360 THIS EFFORT AND WHAT DO WE DO 2632 02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:30,360 AFTER THE MEETING. 2633 02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:33,600 MY FIRST EXAMPLE IS FROM THE 2634 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:34,760 NATIONAL ACADEMIES ROUNDTABLE ON 2635 02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:37,600 INCENTIVES FOR OPEN SCIENCE. 2636 02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:41,480 I REALIZE OPEN IS MAYBE 2637 02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:42,360 NECESSARY BUT CERTAINLY NOT 2638 02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:44,840 SUFFICIENT FOR RIGOROUS BUT 2639 02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:46,040 THERE'S OVERLAP. 2640 02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:48,960 I THINK THIS EFFORT CAN LEARN A 2641 02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,040 LOT FROM WHERE WE'VE COME IN THE 2642 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:56,120 OPEN SCIENCE EFFORT AND TRY TO 2643 02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:58,960 PUSH THAT. 2644 02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,480 AND FOSTER R. 2645 02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:03,600 IN THE ROUNDTABLE IT WAS 2646 02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:05,240 IMPORTANT WE HAD UNIVERSITIES 2647 02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:07,360 AND FUNDERS OF DIVERSE STRIPES. 2648 02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:13,200 WE ALSO HAD GOVERNMENT THERE. 2649 02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:17,440 I REMEMBER GARY SHEENAN SAID YOU 2650 02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,200 HAD TO DO THIS AND IT WAS ALWAYS 2651 02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:20,560 THE NIH TO DO SOMETHING AND IT 2652 02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:21,800 WAS GOOD FOR UNIVERSITIES AND 2653 02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,680 FUNDERS TO KNOW WE NEED TO BE 2654 02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:25,640 PART OF THE SOLUTION AND CAN'T 2655 02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:27,640 ALWAYS TURN TO THE NIH. 2656 02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:30,720 FIRST THING WE DID WAS BROKE 2657 02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:32,880 INTO WORK STREAMS. 2658 02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:34,600 WE HAD A GROUP ASSAYS AND 2659 02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:36,360 GATHERED WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT. 2660 02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:39,200 YOU NEED THIS ONE PAGER. 2661 02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:40,320 YOU NEED GRAPHICS. 2662 02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:41,600 AN EASY WAY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE 2663 02:01:41,600 --> 02:01:43,600 WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. 2664 02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:46,040 AND ALSO HOW THESE PRIMERS AND 2665 02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:47,720 HOW QUICKLY HOW TO DO IT AND 2666 02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:49,040 WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 2667 02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:50,800 POSTING A PREPRINT AND THINGS 2668 02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:51,640 LIKE THAT. 2669 02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:52,400 RE-IMAGINING OUTPUTS. 2670 02:01:52,400 --> 02:02:01,040 WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING IN OPEN 2671 02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:04,920 SCIENCE ABOUT OPEN DATA BUT WHAT 2672 02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:08,080 ARE ALL THE OUTPUTS AND THE 2673 02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:08,360 DATABASE. 2674 02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,360 THIS IS AWESOME. 2675 02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,880 PEOPLE SAY THERE'S NO PROOF OPEN 2676 02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:13,600 SCIENCE WORKS. 2677 02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:18,840 WELL, YES THERE IS AND THEY 2678 02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:29,200 CREATED A DATABASE. 2679 02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:37,560 THIS IS MORE ABOUT EVOLUTION NOT 2680 02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:39,360 REVOLUTION MAKING THE BAR LOW. 2681 02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:40,560 OUR INITIAL TITLE WAS CALLED THE 2682 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:41,360 NUDGE GROUP. 2683 02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:50,120 WE WERE NUDGING OUR RESEARCHERS. 2684 02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:52,240 AND THE HYPOTHESIS WAS IF YOU 2685 02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:56,480 SIGNAL TO YOUR RESEARCHERS YOU 2686 02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:59,200 VALUE THIS BEHAVIOR IN VARIOUS 2687 02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:02,480 WAYS THEY'LL SAY I'M GOING TO DO 2688 02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:02,680 THAT. 2689 02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:03,920 IN APPLICATIONS AND RESOLUTION 2690 02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:07,720 REPORTS AND FUNDERS ON OUR TEAM 2691 02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,200 AS WELL AND UNIVERSITY P & T 2692 02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:11,360 PACKAGES AND JOB APPLICATIONS 2693 02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:13,360 YOU CAN ADD THIS LANGUAGE AND 2694 02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:14,760 IT'S JUST A LOW BAR. 2695 02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:18,760 JUST ASK, FOUNDATION, X, Y, Z, 2696 02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:20,760 OPEN SHARING AND OUTPUTS. 2697 02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:22,040 DESCRIBE INSTANCES WHERE YOU'VE 2698 02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:23,880 ENGAGED IN OPEN ACTIVITIES. 2699 02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:25,280 THIS IS VERY CUSTOMIZABLE. 2700 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:29,240 YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOUR LOOKING 2701 02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:30,560 FOR MAKING ARTICLES. 2702 02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:30,920 ACCESS. 2703 02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:32,200 IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT SHARING 2704 02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:34,520 DATA, DON'T PUT THAT IN. 2705 02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:37,280 IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO POST PRE 2706 02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:38,320 PRINTS, PUT THAT IN. 2707 02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,600 BUT THE NEXT TWO WERE REALLY FUN 2708 02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:42,920 NOT ONLY HAS YOUR OPEN RESEARCH 2709 02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:46,040 OUTPUTS BEEN USED BY OTHERS BUT 2710 02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:47,960 HOW HAVE YOU USED OTHERS OPEN 2711 02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:50,560 RESEARCH OUTPUTS? 2712 02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:52,200 AND THOSE DATA PARASITES WE 2713 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:55,000 HEARD ABOUT BEFORE AND IN YOUR 2714 02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:56,600 DISCIPLINE, AGAIN, YOU CAN TWEAK 2715 02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:57,640 THIS HOW YOU WANT. 2716 02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:59,920 WHAT WAS FUN ABOUT THIS WAS WE 2717 02:03:59,920 --> 02:04:02,920 DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT AWARDEES 2718 02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:03,680 DIDN'T KNOW WE VALUE THIS AS 2719 02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:06,880 FUNDERS. 2720 02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:08,520 THEY OBVIOUSLY THOUGHT WE WANTED 2721 02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:10,440 JUST THEM TO BE CREATING THE 2722 02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:14,200 DATA AND NOT USING OTHER DATA. 2723 02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:16,000 THIS WAS AN EYE-OPENER FOR THE 2724 02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:17,360 FUNDERS AND HOW DO YOU PLAN TO 2725 02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:20,240 ENGAGE IN OPEN ACTIVITIES IN THE 2726 02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:20,480 FUTURE? 2727 02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:22,000 MANY FUNDERS PUT THAT IN. 2728 02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:25,240 THE BAR WAS LOWEST FOR PUTTING 2729 02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,080 IT IN PROGRESS REPORTS OF COURSE 2730 02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:30,160 AND WHAT THEY FOUND IN PROGRESS 2731 02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:31,840 REPORTS WERE THE RESEARCHERS 2732 02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:32,880 WEREN'T THE PROBLEM. 2733 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:37,320 THEY DIDN'T GET ANY PUSHBACK. 2734 02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:39,280 IN FACT ALMOST EVERY PROGRESS 2735 02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:42,080 REPORT LISTED ACTIVITIES AND 2736 02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,680 DOIs FOR DATA THEY USED OR THEY 2737 02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:47,600 SHARED, CODE, MATERIALS, TALKED 2738 02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:49,640 ABOUT SHARING RE-AGENTS. 2739 02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:53,160 THAT WAS KIND OF A SUCCESS BUT 2740 02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:56,040 WE'RE STILL IN THE ANECDOTAL 2741 02:04:56,040 --> 02:05:02,160 STAGES AND EARLY GATHER, DATA 2742 02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:03,560 GATHERING AND HOW MANY FUNDERS 2743 02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:04,880 AND UNIVERSITIES ARE USING THIS. 2744 02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:07,160 IT'S STILL EARLY DAYS. 2745 02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:08,800 ONE THING THAT CAME I THINK 2746 02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:11,280 NAOMI SAID THIS TO ME THE OTHER 2747 02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:13,000 DAY, WE HAVE THE TOOL KIT. 2748 02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:15,880 THE NATIONAL ACADEMY CREATED 2749 02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:18,760 THIS TOOL KIT AND IT'S FABULOUS. 2750 02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:21,400 IF TOOL KITS COULD SOLVE THE 2751 02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:24,680 PROBLEM IT WOULD BE SOLVED. 2752 02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:26,720 WE WERE TALKING IF YOU BUILD IT 2753 02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:28,400 THEY WILL COME AND WE BUILT IT 2754 02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:30,200 AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY 2755 02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:30,440 COMING. 2756 02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:34,360 THIS AGAIN IS OPEN SCIENCE. 2757 02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:35,560 I THINK WE HAVE THE TOOLS AND 2758 02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:38,040 KNOW HOW TO TAKE WHAT WAS DONE 2759 02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:39,920 FOR OPEN SCIENCE AND CONVERT 2760 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:46,680 THAT TO SIGNALLING THE RIGOR AND 2761 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:52,080 RIGOROUS AND VALUE AND THE 2762 02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:59,520 PHENOTYPE OF RIGOR. 2763 02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:01,280 FUNDERS ARE START BEING TO ASK 2764 02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:04,920 IF YOU REGISTERED THAT AND SOME 2765 02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:07,600 ARE REQUIRING REGISTRATION OR 2766 02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:09,000 PRE-REGISTERED REPORTS. 2767 02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,640 MANY ASK AS PART OF THE 2768 02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:13,120 EXPERIMENTAL DESIGN, HAVE YOU 2769 02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:15,760 HAD A STATISTICIAN SIGN OFF AND 2770 02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:17,160 LOOKING AT DESIGN REQUIRES US AS 2771 02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:20,160 FUNDERS TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW 2772 02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:21,120 THAT ADEQUATELY. 2773 02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:22,920 SO IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO GET 2774 02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,600 THAT TECHNOLOGY OR EXPERTISE ON 2775 02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:32,360 OUR OWN REVIEW PANELS. 2776 02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:34,480 I MENTIONED THE NINDS AND NIH 2777 02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:35,520 POLICY AND THAT'S GREAT. 2778 02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:37,760 WE AS FUNDERS AND THE COMMUNITY 2779 02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:38,640 CAN ASK ABOUT THE ACTUAL 2780 02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:40,080 BEHAVIORS AND IF WE ASK, THEY'RE 2781 02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:42,480 GOING TO SAY, WELL, OKAY, I'M 2782 02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:47,000 NOT GOING TO LEAVE THAT BLANK 2783 02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:52,000 AND I'LL SAY I HAVE PLAN FOR 2784 02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:56,880 TRAINING AND RIGOROUS DESIGN AND 2785 02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:59,000 THESE ARE THE PLANS. 2786 02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:00,880 AND SOME REQUIRE THE PUBLICATION 2787 02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:01,600 BE MADE AVAILABLE WITHIN 12 2788 02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:05,600 MONTHS OF THE FUNDING. 2789 02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:16,000 OPEN SCHOLARSHIP IS VERY MUCH 2790 02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:21,240 SYNERGISTIC AND THE ROUNDTABLE 2791 02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:24,840 IS MORE TRYING TO CREATE 2792 02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:27,480 SYSTEM-LEVELS CHANGE AND CREATE 2793 02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:29,080 THE HELIOS HIGHER INITIATIVE. 2794 02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:31,120 OVER 70 UNIVERSITIES HAVE SIGNED 2795 02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:31,280 ON. 2796 02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:34,120 IT'S VERY MUCH A TOP-DOWN 2797 02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:34,560 APPROACH. 2798 02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,560 THE PRESIDENT HAS TO COMMIT OR 2799 02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:40,760 THE PRESIDENT'S DESIGNEE BUT 2800 02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:41,960 IT'S ALSO A LOT OF PEER 2801 02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:42,760 PRESSURE. 2802 02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:44,840 VERY MUCH CAMPUS ENGAGEMENT AND 2803 02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:46,360 COMMUNITY OF PRACTICE. 2804 02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:50,600 IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN HELIOS, 2805 02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:52,240 IT'S OPEN AND FIGURING IT'S THE 2806 02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:54,840 TOP DOWN. 2807 02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:56,840 IT DOESN'T PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO 2808 02:07:56,840 --> 02:07:58,040 THE WHY BRIDGES BUT WE'LL SEE 2809 02:07:58,040 --> 02:07:59,040 HOW IT WORKS. 2810 02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:04,120 IT'S JUST STARTING AND 2811 02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:08,800 RECOGNIZING AND THERE'S COHORTS 2812 02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:09,640 BEING STARTED AND USING THE 2813 02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:10,880 STATEMENT ACTION METHOD. 2814 02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:14,280 AS A FUNDER WE'RE COMMITTED TO 2815 02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:18,480 ADVANCING DISCOVERY IN 2816 02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:21,600 CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE AND 2817 02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:23,040 AFFIRM THE RIGOROUS AND 2818 02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:25,600 COMMITTED TO DOING THESE THINGS. 2819 02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:28,080 WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FUNDERS 2820 02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:31,600 TO COPY THE HELIOS MODEL. 2821 02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:35,400 WE TALKED ABOUT IT TODAY. 2822 02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:37,360 IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE 2823 02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:40,120 SUCCESSFUL BUT I HOPE WHATEVER 2824 02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:46,760 WE DO WE PUT RIGOROUS EVALUATION 2825 02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:48,440 IN AND HOW CAN WE PLUG IN INTO 2826 02:08:48,440 --> 02:08:58,640 THE EFFORT. 2827 02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:02,080 WHAT ARE THESE MUTUALLY 2828 02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:02,760 REINFORCING VECTORS AND IT MUST 2829 02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:10,280 BE A WIN-WIN. 2830 02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:12,480 WHATEVER YOU DO YOU HAVE TO 2831 02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:17,000 REWARD BUT IT HAS TO BE A WIN. 2832 02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:18,720 IF YOU'RE DOING TO TAKE 2833 02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,600 RESOURCES AWAY YOU MUST REWARD 2834 02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:22,040 FOR THAT REBAFR. 2835 02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:23,920 HAVE BEHAVIOR. P 2836 02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:29,200 I BELIEVE IN THER OF 2837 02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:39,720 COHORTS AND AND IT'S A SPECIAL 2838 02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:42,920 PLACE AND A DIDN'T REALIZE HOW 2839 02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:45,480 MUCH IT MAKES SENSE AND WHY WE 2840 02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:54,280 HADN'T GOTTEN THE TRACTION WEED. 2841 02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:56,560 YOU CAN MOF ROOS ONE WAY AND YOU 2842 02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:58,760 CAN BE GREAT AT SOMETHING AND 2843 02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:03,760 NOT BE SO GREAT AT SOMETHING BUT 2844 02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:05,360 IT'S NOT ACCOUNTABLE. 2845 02:10:05,360 --> 02:10:07,400 YOU'RE MOVING FROM LEFT TO 2846 02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:07,840 RIGHT. 2847 02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:12,840 WE LOVE RUBRICS AND GUIDELINES. 2848 02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:13,800 EVALUATION WITHOUT DATA YOU 2849 02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:16,040 CAN'T SAY ANYTHING WORKS SO 2850 02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:17,560 SEEMS LIKE A WEST. 2851 02:10:17,560 --> 02:10:23,200 POWER OF CONVENING AND 2852 02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:23,720 CATALYZING. 2853 02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:24,480 SUCCESS STORIES ARE VERY 2854 02:10:24,480 --> 02:10:25,520 IMPORTANT. 2855 02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:29,520 YOU CAN'T REALLY CONVINCE PEOPLE 2856 02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:31,120 TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR UNLESS 2857 02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:33,520 YOU CAN SHOW IT'S BEEN 2858 02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:34,320 SUCCESSFUL. 2859 02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:38,360 AS A FUNDER IT'S INCUMBENT ON US 2860 02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:40,600 TO LOOK AT MONEY, TIME AND 2861 02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:45,920 EMPOWERING OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND 2862 02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:50,200 EARLY CAREER SCIENTISTS AND HOW 2863 02:10:50,200 --> 02:10:51,160 DO WE WORK TOGETHER? 2864 02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:54,320 TOP GUIDELINES, TARGET WHAT I 2865 02:10:54,320 --> 02:10:59,320 THINK MIGHT BE INTERESTING IS TO 2866 02:10:59,320 --> 02:11:02,560 CREATE A FLOW OF CAREER STAGE 2867 02:11:02,560 --> 02:11:04,560 AND PLUG IN STRATEGIES INTO THE 2868 02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:08,120 PARTS MUTUALLY ENFORCING AND 2869 02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:18,520 CREATE THE WIDE BRIDGES. 2870 02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:34,800 >> EXCELLENT AND BRILLIANT. 2871 02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:39,360 >> THERE'S ANOTHER POLICY AREA 2872 02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:41,760 I'M LEADING ON WITHIN RESEARCH 2873 02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:42,040 INNOVATION. 2874 02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:47,640 I'M INTERESTED IN THE RESIDENCES 2875 02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:49,240 BETWEEN RIGOR AND SECURITY. 2876 02:11:49,240 --> 02:11:52,040 THEY TEND TO BE BROUGHT UP 2877 02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:55,560 QUITE A LITTLE AND THERE MAY BE 2878 02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:56,720 LOTS OF SIMILARITIES IF WE THINK 2879 02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:57,480 OF BEHAVIOR AND CULTURE CHANGE 2880 02:11:57,480 --> 02:12:06,160 MORE BROADLY. 2881 02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:08,760 WE STORE YOUR QUESTIONS AND 2882 02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:11,000 WE'LL NOW TURN OUT OVER TO 2883 02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:11,240 MARCUS. 2884 02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:12,520 >> THANK YOU, KAREN. 2885 02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:15,400 >> I'M GOING TO BE ABOUT THE 2886 02:12:15,400 --> 02:12:17,360 U.K. NETWORK IN EXISTENCE OVER 2887 02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:18,400 THREE YEARS AND DESCRIBE WHERE 2888 02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:20,400 THAT CAME FROM AND HOW IT'S 2889 02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:21,240 STRUCTURED AND WHO OUR FOCUS IS 2890 02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:31,480 GOING FORWARD. 2891 02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:37,520 IN THE U.K. THERE WAS A MEET 2892 02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:40,000 SUPPORTED BY A MAJOR 2893 02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:43,680 ENVIRONMENTAL CHARITY AND SOME 2894 02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:45,120 RESEARCH WAS THE ORGANIZATION 2895 02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:46,280 PARN REPRESENTS AND WELCOME HAS 2896 02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:49,200 BEEN DOING A GREAT DEAL OF WORK 2897 02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:50,720 AROUND RESEARCH CULTURE WITHIN 2898 02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:52,800 WHICH THE ISSUES WE'RE TALKING 2899 02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:56,120 ABOUT CAN BE SITUATE AND THEY 2900 02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:57,520 COMMISSIONED THIS REPORT ON 2901 02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:03,280 RESEARCH INTEGRITY THE LANDSCAPE 2902 02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:07,920 STUDY WITH THE RESEARCH 2903 02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:09,080 INTEGRATE OFFICE AND LAST YEAR 2904 02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:12,800 THE HOUSE OF COMMONS LAUNCHED AN 2905 02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:18,360 INQUIRY AND THE REPORT WILL BE 2906 02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:18,800 FORTHCOMING. 2907 02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:22,880 TO SOME EXTENT WE'RE IN A 2908 02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:24,280 POSITION WHERE WE RUN THE RISK 2909 02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:31,640 OF SOLUTIONS BEING IMPOSED ON US 2910 02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:35,160 FROM THE TOP-DOWN AND I THINK 2911 02:13:35,160 --> 02:13:37,480 THERE'S AN IMPETUS FOR 2912 02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:48,040 RESEARCHERS TO ENGAGE IN THESE 2913 02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:53,400 ISSUES AND WE DID THIS AFTER 2914 02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:55,200 LINING UP OUR DUCKS AND LOBBYING 2915 02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:57,320 FUNDERS AND POSITIONING 2916 02:13:57,320 --> 02:13:59,600 OURSELVES AS A GROUP OF 2917 02:13:59,600 --> 02:14:01,200 ACADEMICS AND ACADEMIC 2918 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:02,040 COLLABORATION EFFECTIVELY THAT 2919 02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:03,240 WOULD TAKE ON THAT 2920 02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:04,600 RESPONSIBILITY OF JOINING UP THE 2921 02:14:04,600 --> 02:14:07,480 ISSUES MANY OF THESE DIFFERENT 2922 02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:08,680 FUNDERS HAD RECOGNIZED AS AN 2923 02:14:08,680 --> 02:14:10,920 ISSUE BUT WHICH THEY DIDN'T FEEL 2924 02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:12,160 WAS ENTIRELY THEIR 2925 02:14:12,160 --> 02:14:13,760 RESPONSIBILITY TO ADDRESS, IF 2926 02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:17,560 YOU LIKE. 2927 02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:21,560 IT'S A PEER-LED COLLABORATION 2928 02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:24,840 THAT BRINGS TOGETHER COMMUNITIES 2929 02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:27,200 WITHIN THE WIDER RESEARCH ECO 2930 02:14:27,200 --> 02:14:29,200 SYSTEM WITH THE AIM OF 2931 02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:30,240 CONNECTING, HARMONIZING, 2932 02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:33,360 COORDINATING ACTIVITY. 2933 02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:36,480 IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT INVENTING 2934 02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:37,520 NEW ACTIVITY AS THE ACTIVITY 2935 02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:44,320 ALREADY IN PLACE. 2936 02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:46,080 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RESEARCH 2937 02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:51,320 RIGOR AND INTEGRATE ITY AND WE D 2938 02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:53,400 WORDS LIKE THIS AND THEY HAVE 2939 02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:54,600 DIFFERENT MEANINGS IN DIFFERENT 2940 02:14:54,600 --> 02:14:57,520 CONTEXT. 2941 02:14:57,520 --> 02:14:59,360 OUR FOCUS IS ON THE RESEARCH 2942 02:14:59,360 --> 02:15:02,000 PROCESS AND WE DESCRIBED SOME OF 2943 02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:03,920 THE RATIONALE FOR WHY THAT FOCUS 2944 02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:05,800 CAN BE VALUABLE IN THIS PAPER 2945 02:15:05,800 --> 02:15:08,480 PUBLISHED IN TECHNOLOGY A FEW 2946 02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:11,160 YEARS AGO AND THAT DERIVES FROM 2947 02:15:11,160 --> 02:15:14,040 APPROACHES USED IN OTHER CONTEXT 2948 02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:15,360 SUCH AS MANUFACTURING BY 2949 02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:18,280 FOCUSSING ON THE PROCESS AND 2950 02:15:18,280 --> 02:15:19,320 INTRODUCING CHECKS ON THE 2951 02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:19,920 PROCESS RATHER THAN ON THE 2952 02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:21,320 OUTPUTS OF THE PROCESS AND WHAT 2953 02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:26,040 YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEVEL HAVE 2954 02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:36,600 THE COYOTE -- KIOTO PROCESS AND 2955 02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:42,000 THE FOCUS ON PROCESS I THINK IS 2956 02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:44,040 A THEME THAT'S COME FROM THE 2957 02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:44,640 DISCUSSIONS I'VE BEEN PART OF 2958 02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:54,560 OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS. 2959 02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:58,080 WE HAVE A STEERING GROUP AND 2960 02:15:58,080 --> 02:16:00,400 ALEXANDER COLLINS AND CHRIS 2961 02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:05,520 CHAMBERS AND LOCAL NETWORKS AND 2962 02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:05,840 ETIENNE ROSH. 2963 02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:08,960 THE MAJOR PARTS OF THE U.K. 2964 02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:10,080 STRUCTURE ARE OUR LOCAL NETWORK 2965 02:16:10,080 --> 02:16:12,560 AND INSTITUTIONAL MEMBERS AND 2966 02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:13,520 EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS. 2967 02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:16,080 LOCAL NETWORKS ARE IN FORMAL 2968 02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:16,760 SELF-ORGANIZING GROUPS OF 2969 02:16:16,760 --> 02:16:17,840 RESEARCHERS THAT COME TOGETHER 2970 02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:23,520 TO RUN THINGS LIKE 2971 02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:24,680 REPRODUCIBILITY AND JOURNAL 2972 02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:30,000 CLUBS AND A RESEARCHER CREATING 2973 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:31,280 COMMUNITIES OF PRACTICE. 2974 02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:33,240 THOSE ARE OFTEN LED BY EARLY 2975 02:16:33,240 --> 02:16:38,960 CAREER RESEARCHERS AND WE HAVE 2976 02:16:38,960 --> 02:16:41,720 INSTITUTIONAL MEMBERS THAT 2977 02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:42,840 APPOINT A SENIOR LEAD FOR THE 2978 02:16:42,840 --> 02:16:44,520 PERSON TO FOCUS ON THE ROLE. 2979 02:16:44,520 --> 02:16:48,880 AND THE MODEL IS IDEALLY EVERY 2980 02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:50,360 INSTITUTION WILL HAVE BOTH ROLES 2981 02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:53,000 THE LOCAL NETWORK LEAD IS FROM 2982 02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:56,600 THE GRASSROOTS COMMUNITY AND 2983 02:16:56,600 --> 02:16:57,520 THERE'S THINGS LIKE TRAINING AND 2984 02:16:57,520 --> 02:16:59,600 HIRING AND PROMOTION PRACTICES 2985 02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:03,160 AND THOSE TWO WORK IN 2986 02:17:03,160 --> 02:17:04,080 PARTNERSHIP ADVOCATING FOR EACH 2987 02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:05,520 OTHER IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AND 2988 02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:07,680 CHALLENGING EACH OTHER AND 2989 02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:12,280 ALLOWS MANAGEMENT TO HAVE A 2990 02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:14,720 DIRECTOR ROUTE TO THE GRASS 2991 02:17:14,720 --> 02:17:17,560 ROOTS COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN HOLD 2992 02:17:17,560 --> 02:17:20,000 SENIOR MANAGEMENT'S FEET TO THE 2993 02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:23,280 FIRE INSTITUTIONALLY AND THE 2994 02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:23,800 STAKEHOLDERS ARE OTHER 2995 02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:32,080 ORGANIZATIONS. 2996 02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:35,000 WE ENCOURAGE THE LOCAL NETWORKS 2997 02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:37,040 TO RUN REPRODUCIBILITY JOURNAL 2998 02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:38,720 CLUBS. 2999 02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:42,360 WE'RE LOOKING AT PROMOTION 3000 02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:45,760 PRACTICES TO INCENTIVIZE 3001 02:17:45,760 --> 02:17:47,160 PRACTICES SO THEY CAN MOVE FROM 3002 02:17:47,160 --> 02:17:49,520 ONE INSTITUTION TO ANOTHER 3003 02:17:49,520 --> 02:17:51,120 WITHOUT A DISADVANTAGE BY 3004 02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:55,040 WORKING IN A WAY ONLY TAILORED 3005 02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:56,160 IT TO THAT INSTITUTION AND THAT 3006 02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:57,000 COORDINATION IS ALSO IMPORTANT 3007 02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:00,480 AND WITHIN THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP 3008 02:18:00,480 --> 02:18:05,480 WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN 3009 02:18:05,480 --> 02:18:08,600 FUNDERS AND WE'RE RUNNING A 3010 02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:13,560 REPORT WITH A MAJOR CHARITABLE 3011 02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:15,960 FUNDER AND A SUITE TO LINK THE 3012 02:18:15,960 --> 02:18:24,560 GRANT REVIEW PROCESS AS PART OF 3013 02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:28,080 THE RELY RACE AND WHEN WE LOOKED 3014 02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:33,480 AT THE INTEGRATE WE PUT MANY 3015 02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:38,480 LOCAL LEADS DIRECTLY IN TOUCH 3016 02:18:38,480 --> 02:18:39,760 KURCHLT RISE IN TERMS OF WHAT 3017 02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:42,000 THEY FELT WAS NEEDED FROM THAT 3018 02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:42,280 COMMUNITY. 3019 02:18:42,280 --> 02:18:45,520 NOW WE HAVE LOCAL NETWORKS AT 3020 02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:47,880 ABOUT 60 INSTITUTIONS ACROSS THE 3021 02:18:47,880 --> 02:18:49,520 U.K. AND HAVE INSTITUTIONAL 3022 02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:50,800 MEMBERS AT 25 INSTITUTIONS AND 3023 02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:52,280 THAT NUMBER IS GROWING ALL THE 3024 02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:56,000 TIME AND THE KEY FEATURES IS 3025 02:18:56,000 --> 02:19:01,680 IT'S A PEER-LED CONSORTIUM AND 3026 02:19:01,680 --> 02:19:04,960 WE TRIED TO BE RELEVANT ACROSS A 3027 02:19:04,960 --> 02:19:10,040 BROAD RANGE AND THEY'RE LARGELY 3028 02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:14,320 WITHIN THE LIFE SCIENCES. 3029 02:19:14,320 --> 02:19:16,120 IN TERMS OF THE STAKEHOLDER 3030 02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:17,520 ENGAGEMENT GROUP THESE ARE PART 3031 02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:21,560 OF THE ORGANIZATIONS PART OF THE 3032 02:19:21,560 --> 02:19:24,360 STAKEHOLDER GROUP. 3033 02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:29,400 A RANGE OF DIFFERENT 3034 02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:31,000 ORGANIZATIONS THAT INCLUDE 3035 02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:32,600 ORGANIZATIONS WITH PROFESSIONAL 3036 02:19:32,600 --> 02:19:38,200 SERVICES STAFF AND WE RUN 3037 02:19:38,200 --> 02:19:39,840 ACTIVITIES WITH DIFFERENT 3038 02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:40,880 ORGANIZATIONS AND PRESENT OUR 3039 02:19:40,880 --> 02:19:43,280 COMMUNITY AND OUR WORK THEIR 3040 02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:45,520 COMMUNITY AND VICE VERSA AND TO 3041 02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:49,520 DELIVER HARMONIZED TRAINING. 3042 02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:51,000 WE DELIVER OPEN RESEARCH 3043 02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:53,560 TRAINING ACROSS OUR 3044 02:19:53,560 --> 02:19:57,520 INSTITUTIONAL MEMBERS AND 25 3045 02:19:57,520 --> 02:19:59,480 JOINED U.K. RN FORMALLY AND THAT 3046 02:19:59,480 --> 02:20:06,280 IS A TRAIN THE TRAINER MODEL SO 3047 02:20:06,280 --> 02:20:09,920 THE TRAINING WILL ALLOW FOR 3048 02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:10,840 INTEROPERABILITY BECAUSE THE 3049 02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:12,560 TRAINING RECEIVED AT YOUR 3050 02:20:12,560 --> 02:20:14,080 INSTITUTION EVEN IF IT'S 3051 02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:17,440 TAILORED TO YOUR INSTITUTIONAL 3052 02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:18,880 CONTEXT WILL RETAIN COMMON DNA 3053 02:20:18,880 --> 02:20:21,520 WITH THE TRAINING ACROSS THE 3054 02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:23,800 OTHER FIVE INSTITUTIONS. 3055 02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:25,520 AGAIN, PROMOTE A COMMON APPROACH 3056 02:20:25,520 --> 02:20:27,040 TO SOME OF THESE FOUNDATIONAL 3057 02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:29,400 SKILLS WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL 3058 02:20:29,400 --> 02:20:31,520 RESEARCHERS TO ENGAGE IN. 3059 02:20:31,520 --> 02:20:33,320 AND THE FINAL PIECE OF THE 3060 02:20:33,320 --> 02:20:38,760 JIGSAW IS THE ISSUES ARE NOT 3061 02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:40,120 SPECIFIC TO OR LOCATED WITHIN 3062 02:20:40,120 --> 02:20:45,520 ANY ONE COUNTRY AND WANT TO WORK 3063 02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:47,400 COLLABORATIVELY ACROSS 3064 02:20:47,400 --> 02:20:49,520 COUNTRIES. 3065 02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:56,160 WE'VE SEEN OTHER COUNTRIES ADOPT 3066 02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:57,560 THE STRUCTURE AND HAVE 3067 02:20:57,560 --> 02:21:00,040 REPRODUCIBILITY ACROSS AUSTRALIA 3068 02:21:00,040 --> 02:21:06,920 AND BRAZIL AND REGULARLY CONVENE 3069 02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:09,000 MEETING OF THE NETWORKS SO IS 3070 02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:10,120 THE COLLABORATION AND CREATION 3071 02:21:10,120 --> 02:21:13,520 OF COMMUNITIES OF PRACTICE CAN 3072 02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:15,200 HAPPEN AT AN INTERNATIONAL SCALE 3073 02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:16,120 AS WELL AS NATIONAL SCALE. 3074 02:21:16,120 --> 02:21:26,320 THANK YOU. 3075 02:21:26,320 --> 02:21:28,760 >> FABULOUS, MARCUS. 3076 02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:33,760 I HOPE WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN THE 3077 02:21:33,760 --> 02:21:36,000 AUDIENCE A CHANCE TO RECOGNIZE 3078 02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,240 IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT 3079 02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:40,600 YOU'VE CREATED OVER UKRN BUT 3080 02:21:40,600 --> 02:21:45,520 ALSO THE EMPOWERMENT THAT IS 3081 02:21:45,520 --> 02:21:48,840 SPREAD THROUGH ALL THAT AND 3082 02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:49,840 QUITE A LOT OF OF THE LINK 3083 02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:51,040 THROUGH THROUGH THE SECTOR AND 3084 02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:56,040 LED INTO THE LOCAL. 3085 02:21:56,040 --> 02:21:57,480 THAT'S PROBABLY CHALLENGING. 3086 02:21:57,480 --> 02:21:59,080 I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE 3087 02:21:59,080 --> 02:22:01,360 LAST DAY OR SO TALKING ABOUT THE 3088 02:22:01,360 --> 02:22:02,480 NIH DOING SOMETHING OR PUTTING 3089 02:22:02,480 --> 02:22:04,720 SOMETHING IN PLACE AND THEN HOW 3090 02:22:04,720 --> 02:22:06,080 PEOPLE ARE THEN SUPPOSED TO 3091 02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:07,360 RESPOND TO THAT WHERE YOU GET 3092 02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:09,520 THE SENSE THERE ARE OTHER 3093 02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:11,920 DYNAMIC MODELS AND I WOULD 3094 02:22:11,920 --> 02:22:16,120 IMAGINE THE NIH WOULD BE QUITE 3095 02:22:16,120 --> 02:22:16,920 INTERESTED IN PLAYING AN 3096 02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:17,520 INTERESTING ROLE. 3097 02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:20,840 I WOULD TAKE A MOMENT BECAUSE 3098 02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:22,480 MARCUS THANKFULLY MENTIONED THE 3099 02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:25,520 U.K. COMMITTEE ON RESEARCH 3100 02:22:25,520 --> 02:22:26,840 INTEGR 3101 02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:27,080 INTEGRITY. 3102 02:22:27,080 --> 02:22:28,080 I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK 3103 02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:31,080 ABOUT THAT COMMITTEE. 3104 02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:32,080 IT'S A NATIONAL COMMITTEE FROM 3105 02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:34,120 FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT 3106 02:22:34,120 --> 02:22:36,440 REPRESENTS ACROSS PEOPLE ACROSS 3107 02:22:36,440 --> 02:22:39,000 MULTIPLE CAREER STAGES AND 3108 02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:39,720 PERSPECTIVES INCLUDING TECHNICAL 3109 02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:42,960 STAFF AND LOCATIONS AND WHERE 3110 02:22:42,960 --> 02:22:43,800 THEY'RE POSITIONED. 3111 02:22:43,800 --> 02:22:45,360 THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT A 3112 02:22:45,360 --> 02:22:48,320 FUNDER IS INTERESTING IN TRYING 3113 02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:51,680 TO SUPPORT WHICH ISN'T 3114 02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:54,760 NECESSARILY ABOUT MONEY OR POST 3115 02:22:54,760 --> 02:22:57,240 OR GUIDELINES AND GUIDELINES AND 3116 02:22:57,240 --> 02:22:57,560 EXPECTATIONS. 3117 02:22:57,560 --> 02:22:59,440 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO 3118 02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:03,000 TAKE A MOMENT, NAOMI. 3119 02:23:03,000 --> 02:23:04,680 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR OUR 3120 02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:05,760 FINAL PRESENTATION BEFORE WE 3121 02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:07,280 HAVE A NICE DISCUSSION BETWEEN 3122 02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:09,520 US AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER 3123 02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:16,640 TO THE AUDIENCE. 3124 02:23:16,640 --> 02:23:17,880 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 3125 02:23:17,880 --> 02:23:21,000 IT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW THESE 3126 02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:26,640 THREE AND NOW I'M GOING TO TAKE 3127 02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:33,160 US MORE IN THE PAST AND I'M A 3128 02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:36,720 GET LATE -- LITIGATOR AND LAWYER 3129 02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:38,160 BY TRAINING MAYBE ONE OF THE FEW 3130 02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:41,280 HERE TODAY AND MY CASE LOAD WAS 3131 02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:46,640 FALSE ADVERTISING CASES AND MY 3132 02:23:46,640 --> 02:23:49,400 JOB WAS TO IDENTIFY THE FLAWS 3133 02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:51,440 AND THE DATA COMPANIES WERE 3134 02:23:51,440 --> 02:23:53,440 USING TO SUPPORT THEIR 3135 02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:55,080 ADVERTISING CLAIMS EITHER OUR 3136 02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:59,080 OWN CLIENTS OR OUR CLIENTS' 3137 02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:00,200 COMPETITORS. 3138 02:24:00,200 --> 02:24:01,160 THAT'S HOW I GOT INTERESTED IN 3139 02:24:01,160 --> 02:24:02,800 THE QUESTION OF RESEARCH QUALITY 3140 02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:08,840 AND CAME TO MY WORK AT COLUMBIA 3141 02:24:08,840 --> 02:24:13,480 WITH A REAL COMMITMENT IN A LESS 3142 02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:16,120 ADVERSARIAL THINKING. 3143 02:24:16,120 --> 02:24:19,560 SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY 3144 02:24:19,560 --> 02:24:22,960 INSTITUTION. 3145 02:24:22,960 --> 02:24:26,200 WE'RE BIG AND INCREDIBLY DIVERSE 3146 02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:28,160 AND DECENTRALIZED. 3147 02:24:28,160 --> 02:24:30,520 MANY OF US THAT COME FROM BIG 3148 02:24:30,520 --> 02:24:31,920 INSTITUTIONS SHARE AN IMPORTANT 3149 02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:34,920 CHAMPION WITHIN OUR INSTITUTIONS 3150 02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:36,160 IS THE SENIOR RESEARCH OFFICER 3151 02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:38,440 AND MOST INSTITUTIONS NOW AT 3152 02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:40,880 LEAST MOST HAVE SOMEONE IN THIS 3153 02:24:40,880 --> 02:24:42,680 ROLE AT COLUMBIA. 3154 02:24:42,680 --> 02:24:44,680 IT'S CALLED THE EXECUTIVE VICE 3155 02:24:44,680 --> 02:24:45,560 PRESIDENT FOR RESEARCH AND SEE 3156 02:24:45,560 --> 02:24:47,040 THAT PERSON'S ROLE. 3157 02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:52,840 MISS IS MY BOSS, THIS IS WHO I 3158 02:24:52,840 --> 02:24:53,880 REPORT TO AND IMPORTANT TO HAVE 3159 02:24:53,880 --> 02:24:56,680 THAT SUPPORT AND YOU CAN SEE IN 3160 02:24:56,680 --> 02:25:01,520 2017 THE THEN EVP FOR RESEARCH 3161 02:25:01,520 --> 02:25:07,000 MICHAEL PERDY AND I WROTE IN 3162 02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:08,520 EDITORIAL HOW INSTITUTIONS 3163 02:25:08,520 --> 02:25:09,040 NEEDED TO DO MORE. 3164 02:25:09,040 --> 02:25:09,960 IT'S HARD. 3165 02:25:09,960 --> 02:25:11,440 IT'S HARD FOR BIG INSTITUTIONS 3166 02:25:11,440 --> 02:25:12,640 LIKE MINE TO DO MORE. 3167 02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:16,080 WE CALLED FOR LOTS OF THINGS IN 3168 02:25:16,080 --> 02:25:16,280 THIS. 3169 02:25:16,280 --> 02:25:18,280 I WOULDN'T SAY WE'RE DOING THEM 3170 02:25:18,280 --> 02:25:18,640 ALL. 3171 02:25:18,640 --> 02:25:21,640 WHERE DID MY PARTICULAR ROLE 3172 02:25:21,640 --> 02:25:24,360 HERE COME FROM? 3173 02:25:24,360 --> 02:25:26,720 ONE OF MY OTHER HATS IN COLUMBIA 3174 02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:32,480 IS I'M THE RESEARCH INTERYY -- 3175 02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:33,280 INTEGRITY OFFICER AND IF THE 3176 02:25:33,280 --> 02:25:35,240 UNIVERSITY IS GOING TO MAKE A 3177 02:25:35,240 --> 02:25:36,800 FINDING OF RESEARCH MISCONDUCT 3178 02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:39,720 THE EVP FOR RESEARCH IS THE 3179 02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:41,520 FINAL ADJUDICATOR. 3180 02:25:41,520 --> 02:25:45,560 THAT PERSON WILL READ EVERY 3181 02:25:45,560 --> 02:25:48,760 REPORT OF RESEARCH AND THAT'S 3182 02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:50,440 MORE THAN RESEARCH MISCONDUCT. 3183 02:25:50,440 --> 02:25:51,760 THERE'S SO MANY OTHER KINDS OF 3184 02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:58,120 PROBLEMS THAT EMERGE IN THOSE 3185 02:25:58,120 --> 02:26:01,520 INVESTIGATIONS YOU SEE ONE HERE. 3186 02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:05,560 WE HAD ONE CASE AT COLUMBIA A 3187 02:26:05,560 --> 02:26:07,600 PARTICULARCATION AND WE HAD AN 3188 02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:12,680 AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT CARRIED 3189 02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:16,160 THROUGH THE MASSIVE 3190 02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:26,400 INVESTIGATION. 3191 02:26:30,560 --> 02:26:32,600 AND THEY BECAME CHAMPIONS OF THE 3192 02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:34,480 IDEA THE INSTITUTION NEEDED TO 3193 02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:36,280 DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT THIS. 3194 02:26:36,280 --> 02:26:39,760 TOGETHER WE MADE THE CASE TO 3195 02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:40,800 LEADERSHIP AND EVENTUALLY 3196 02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:41,520 LEADERSHIP AGREED AND THEY 3197 02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:46,480 FUNDED A POSITION IN MY OFFICE. 3198 02:26:46,480 --> 02:26:48,040 ONE POSITION WHICH HAS HAD TO 3199 02:26:48,040 --> 02:26:53,520 TAKE ON OTHER THINGS AS OUR 3200 02:26:53,520 --> 02:27:01,520 MISSION CREEPS AND CREATED A 3201 02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:03,440 PROGRAM AND WAS NOT AS 3202 02:27:03,440 --> 02:27:05,480 SUCCESSFUL AS REPRODUCIBILITY 3203 02:27:05,480 --> 02:27:09,520 AND LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM WITH 3204 02:27:09,520 --> 02:27:11,760 THREE PRIMARY FOCUSES TO CREATE 3205 02:27:11,760 --> 02:27:13,240 RESOURCES THAT WOULD ASSIST IN 3206 02:27:13,240 --> 02:27:14,000 RESEARCH QUALITY. 3207 02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:16,440 TO DO OUTREACH WORK SHOPS, 3208 02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:18,560 TRAININGS, FACULTY ORIENTATIONS, 3209 02:27:18,560 --> 02:27:20,320 GRADUATE STUDENTS, ETCETERA AND 3210 02:27:20,320 --> 02:27:22,840 TO PROVIDE CONSULTS FOR 3211 02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:24,000 INDIVIDUAL P.I.s. 3212 02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:33,320 WE WERE ASKED AT THE OUTSET TO 3213 02:27:33,320 --> 02:27:36,120 INCLUDE A DATA AUDIT COMPONENT. 3214 02:27:36,120 --> 02:27:37,720 WE DEVELOPED A WHOLE PROGRAM AND 3215 02:27:37,720 --> 02:27:40,320 IN FACT THERE'S SOME LITERATURE 3216 02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:41,520 THAT SUPPORTS DATA AUDITS WOULD 3217 02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:49,520 BE A WAY TO CONTAIN RESEARCH 3218 02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:51,240 MISCONDUCT. 3219 02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:53,480 WE ASK DID YOU IMPLEMENT THE 3220 02:27:53,480 --> 02:27:54,440 DATA AUDITS AND SAID NO BECAUSE 3221 02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:55,640 THE CULTURE WAS NOT ARE THE TO 3222 02:27:55,640 --> 02:28:03,360 EMBRACE IT. 3223 02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:05,280 WE DEVELOPED THIS PROGRAM AT 3224 02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:08,760 COLUMBIA TO DO DATA AUDITS AND 3225 02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:10,920 ASKED LEADERSHIP AND INDIVIDUAL 3226 02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:12,360 CHAIRS AND P.I.s TO LOOK AT YOUR 3227 02:28:12,360 --> 02:28:16,520 DATA AND NOBODY TOOK US UP ON 3228 02:28:16,520 --> 02:28:16,680 IT. 3229 02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:18,400 IS THAT A SURPRISE? 3230 02:28:18,400 --> 02:28:21,200 PERHAPS NOT. 3231 02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:22,920 BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S IN 3232 02:28:22,920 --> 02:28:25,080 TERMS OF CULTURE AND NORMS I 3233 02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:28,520 THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT TAUGHT 3234 02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:32,000 ME SOMETHING. 3235 02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:35,160 WE GRADUALLY EVOLVED AND OUR 3236 02:28:35,160 --> 02:28:40,400 FUNDING AGENCIES HELP US EVOLVE. 3237 02:28:40,400 --> 02:28:43,480 WHEN ANNOUNCED THE RIGOR IT GAVE 3238 02:28:43,480 --> 02:28:46,600 US THE ABILITY TO GO AROUND AND 3239 02:28:46,600 --> 02:28:48,920 WE HAVE $6 MILLION OF NIH 3240 02:28:48,920 --> 02:28:50,800 FUNDING AND 1,000 P.I.s AND 3241 02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:53,520 WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO 3242 02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:55,600 TO MAKE THEIR GRANTS MORE 3243 02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:56,880 FUNDABLE AND WE CAN GIVE THEM 3244 02:28:56,880 --> 02:28:59,360 INFORMATION ON THAT AND IN THAT 3245 02:28:59,360 --> 02:29:00,840 MOMENT DEUCE THEM TO DATA 3246 02:29:00,840 --> 02:29:01,480 RESOURCES AND MATERIALS WE 3247 02:29:01,480 --> 02:29:08,040 PROVIDE. 3248 02:29:08,040 --> 02:29:08,840 I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO 3249 02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:10,160 INCREDIBLE PEOPLE THAT DID A LOT 3250 02:29:10,160 --> 02:29:11,560 OF THE WORK. 3251 02:29:11,560 --> 02:29:13,280 WE BUILT A WEBSITE. 3252 02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:17,520 ALL THE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. 3253 02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:19,480 WE TRIED TO ORGANIZE IT BASED ON 3254 02:29:19,480 --> 02:29:22,040 THE RESEARCH LIFE CYCLE STARTING 3255 02:29:22,040 --> 02:29:24,680 WITH WHEN SOMEONE IS 3256 02:29:24,680 --> 02:29:26,640 ESTABLISHING A RESEARCH GROUP 3257 02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:30,080 AND ADDRESSING LOTS OF DIFFERENT 3258 02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:30,960 ISSUES INCLUDING REPRODUCIBILITY 3259 02:29:30,960 --> 02:29:36,040 RESOURCES FROM TOPIC WE COLLECT 3260 02:29:36,040 --> 02:29:36,400 FROM LITERATURE. 3261 02:29:36,400 --> 02:29:37,680 COLUMBIA SPECIFIC RESOURCES AND 3262 02:29:37,680 --> 02:29:40,520 YOU CAN FIND A STATISTICIAN TO 3263 02:29:40,520 --> 02:29:42,480 HELP YOU AND VARIOUS TUTORIALS 3264 02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:43,760 AND TEMPLATES AND A LOT OF THE 3265 02:29:43,760 --> 02:29:44,600 RESOURCES WERE DRIVEN BY THINGS 3266 02:29:44,600 --> 02:29:48,680 WE HAD OBSERVED. 3267 02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:50,040 WE OBSERVED IN OUR RESEARCH 3268 02:29:50,040 --> 02:29:52,240 MISCONDUCT CASES THERE WAS A 3269 02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:53,240 PROBLEM WITH LAB NOTE BOOKS. 3270 02:29:53,240 --> 02:29:55,080 THIS IS NOT NEWS TO ANY OF US 3271 02:29:55,080 --> 02:29:58,160 BUT WE CREATED A TRAINING 3272 02:29:58,160 --> 02:29:59,600 SPECIFICALLY ON GOOD LAB 3273 02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:01,200 NOTEBOOK PRACTICES AN ONLINE 3274 02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:01,520 TRAINING. 3275 02:30:01,520 --> 02:30:03,000 IT'S NOT REQUIRED. 3276 02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:04,720 IF YOU BUILD IT WILL THEY COME 3277 02:30:04,720 --> 02:30:11,440 YOU SAW 500 COMPLETIONS. 3278 02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:16,200 ANOTHER ON COLLECTING DATA WHEN 3279 02:30:16,200 --> 02:30:21,520 USING INSTRUMENTATION AND 3280 02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:25,080 SLOPPINESS WHERE WE DEVELOPED 3281 02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:26,520 TRAINING THERE ORGANIZATION OF 3282 02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:31,920 SAMPLES IN A LABORATORY AND THE 3283 02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:36,920 SOIL SAMPLES AT ISSUE WERE IN 3284 02:30:36,920 --> 02:30:37,920 PLASTIC BAGS BUT NOT 3285 02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:39,000 PARTICULARLY LABELLED. 3286 02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:42,960 THE ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON 3287 02:30:42,960 --> 02:30:46,200 NOW IMAGE MANIPULATION AND 3288 02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:48,160 DETECTION WHICH IS INSPIRED AND 3289 02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:49,920 A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS WITH 3290 02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:50,840 WESTERN BLOTS. 3291 02:30:50,840 --> 02:30:53,520 THE CHECKLIST WE SAW ISSUES WE 3292 02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:57,320 TRIED TO CREATE CHECKLISTS THAT 3293 02:30:57,320 --> 02:30:59,120 WOULD HELP. 3294 02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:02,560 WE CREATED A CATALOG OF THE DATA 3295 02:31:02,560 --> 02:31:04,160 STORAGE OPTIONS AT COLUMBIA. 3296 02:31:04,160 --> 02:31:06,120 WE CREATED A WEBSITE ON DATA AT 3297 02:31:06,120 --> 02:31:07,120 COLUMBIA SO RESEARCHERS COULD 3298 02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:09,440 HAVE A ONE-STOP SHOP TO FIND THE 3299 02:31:09,440 --> 02:31:12,840 INFORMATION THEY NEEDED AS TO 3300 02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:14,320 DATA AND WE COLLABORATE A LOT 3301 02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:16,040 WITH OUR LIBRARIES AS WE HEARD 3302 02:31:16,040 --> 02:31:17,560 EARLIER WITH OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT 3303 02:31:17,560 --> 02:31:23,440 AND PART OF THAT COLLABORATION 3304 02:31:23,440 --> 02:31:24,400 INVOLVED MAKING REAL TOOLS 3305 02:31:24,400 --> 02:31:25,320 AVAILABLE FOR RESEARCHERS AND 3306 02:31:25,320 --> 02:31:28,600 SOME ARE FREE AND SOME ARE NOT. 3307 02:31:28,600 --> 02:31:30,320 OUR LAB BOOK IS FREE AND WE'VE 3308 02:31:30,320 --> 02:31:34,120 HAD PRETTY GOOD UPTAKE ON THAT 3309 02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:34,760 AND THEN OTHER SOLUTIONS HERE AS 3310 02:31:34,760 --> 02:31:40,160 WELL. 3311 02:31:40,160 --> 02:31:42,520 THE OUTREACH AND CONSULTATIONS 3312 02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:43,360 RUN THE GAMUT. 3313 02:31:43,360 --> 02:31:47,920 WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET EVERY 3314 02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:49,440 RELEVANT AUDIENCE WE CAN REACH 3315 02:31:49,440 --> 02:31:51,600 OR INVITE OURSELVES TO. 3316 02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:57,240 WE ARE INVOLVED WITH CARPENTRIES 3317 02:31:57,240 --> 02:32:02,280 AND DOING RIGOR S AND THE 3318 02:32:02,280 --> 02:32:02,960 CONSULTATIONS ARE INDIVIDUAL 3319 02:32:02,960 --> 02:32:06,040 P.I. LEVEL AND SOMETIMES WE GET 3320 02:32:06,040 --> 02:32:06,400 REFERRALS. 3321 02:32:06,400 --> 02:32:07,760 SO A VICE DEAN FOR RESEARCH WILL 3322 02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:10,160 SAY GO TALK TO SO AND SO AND 3323 02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:15,600 OTHER TIMES PEOPLE COME TO US 3324 02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:17,200 WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WE'RE 3325 02:32:17,200 --> 02:32:20,720 GOING TO PILOT HOPEFULLY A NEW 3326 02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:25,520 PROGRAM A BADGE PROGRAM FOR 3327 02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:26,080 P.I.'S AND LABS THAT MEET 3328 02:32:26,080 --> 02:32:28,200 CERTAIN DATA MANAGEMENT CRITERIA 3329 02:32:28,200 --> 02:32:30,480 AND WILL GET MONETARY 3330 02:32:30,480 --> 02:32:31,080 UNRESTRICTED FUNDS AS PART OF 3331 02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:37,000 THE INCENTIVE. 3332 02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:45,920 WE ALSO HELD THE SYMPOSIA AND 3333 02:32:45,920 --> 02:32:49,520 THEY'VE BEEN GREAT WAYS TO CON 3334 02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:56,760 SEEN OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND 3335 02:32:56,760 --> 02:32:58,400 RESEARCH TECH TO SENIOR P.I.s TO 3336 02:32:58,400 --> 02:33:01,480 COME TOGETHER FOR A DAY TO THINK 3337 02:33:01,480 --> 02:33:05,440 ABOUT THESE ISSUES. 3338 02:33:05,440 --> 02:33:07,240 THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN 3339 02:33:07,240 --> 02:33:09,680 DOING BUT WHERE DO WE GO FROM 3340 02:33:09,680 --> 02:33:19,760 HERE. 3341 02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:25,960 HOW DO WE INCREASE UPTAKE? 3342 02:33:25,960 --> 02:33:27,680 WIDE BRIDGES IS PART OF THAT AND 3343 02:33:27,680 --> 02:33:28,320 THE COLLABORATIONS ARE PART OF 3344 02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:33,480 THAT. 3345 02:33:33,480 --> 02:33:34,880 I THINK NORMS IS A HUGE PART AND 3346 02:33:34,880 --> 02:33:35,960 WE'RE ONLY AT THE BEGINNING OF 3347 02:33:35,960 --> 02:33:37,080 THE WORK AND THERE'S A LONG WAY 3348 02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:37,280 TO GO. 3349 02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:47,560 I'LL STOP THERE. 3350 02:33:56,000 --> 02:34:05,920 >> IT'S AS IF IMAGE -- I 3351 02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:08,560 MAGICALLY DID THAT. 3352 02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:10,920 BRILLIANT TALKED AND HOPE YOU 3353 02:34:10,920 --> 02:34:12,400 FEEL ENERGETIC. 3354 02:34:12,400 --> 02:34:13,320 YOU DON'T LOOK IT. 3355 02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:15,400 I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, YOU ALL 3356 02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:16,600 LOOK REALLY TIRED. 3357 02:34:16,600 --> 02:34:18,520 HERE'S THE DEAL. 3358 02:34:18,520 --> 02:34:21,400 WE WERE GOING TO HAVE YOU NOT 3359 02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:22,440 BREAK AND MOVE DIRECTLY INTO 3360 02:34:22,440 --> 02:34:24,120 QUESTION AND ANSWERS BUT I THINK 3361 02:34:24,120 --> 02:34:27,880 I MIGHT NEED TO LET YOU GO DO 3362 02:34:27,880 --> 02:34:31,000 SOME JUMPING JACKS FOR A FEW 3363 02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:32,080 MOMENTS BEFORE WE COME BACK. 3364 02:34:32,080 --> 02:34:33,520 I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EACH ONE 3365 02:34:33,520 --> 02:34:39,040 OF THEM THAT'S GOING TO 3366 02:34:39,040 --> 02:34:42,720 STIMULATE THINKING HOPEFULLY AND 3367 02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:45,520 I'M LIMITING MYSELF TO ONE AND 3368 02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:48,320 LIMIT THEM TO ANSWER ONE AND 3369 02:34:48,320 --> 02:34:50,800 WE'LL GIVE YOU A BREAK BUT A 3370 02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:52,320 STRETCH YOUR LEGGY TYPE OF THING 3371 02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:54,680 AND STANDING UP OR CHATTING TO 3372 02:34:54,680 --> 02:34:57,280 THE PERSON ACROSS THE WAY. 3373 02:34:57,280 --> 02:34:59,360 FIVE MINUTES VERONIQUE? 3374 02:34:59,360 --> 02:35:00,760 WE'LL KEEP IT SHORT. 3375 02:35:00,760 --> 02:35:01,560 THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN 3376 02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:02,680 ENERGY BREAK. 3377 02:35:02,680 --> 02:35:04,040 IF YOU NEED TO DO SOME YOGA IN 3378 02:35:04,040 --> 02:35:06,200 THE BACK, WHATEVER YOU NEED TO 3379 02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:08,240 DO TO GET IT TOGETHER AND THEN 3380 02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:14,520 WE'LL HAVE OUR PLENARY AND GO IN 3381 02:35:14,520 --> 02:35:15,960 THE ORDER OF HOW EVERYONE HAS 3382 02:35:15,960 --> 02:35:19,120 SPOKEN TODAY WHICH HAS BEEN 3383 02:35:19,120 --> 02:35:19,320 GREAT. 3384 02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:20,440 SOFIA, OVER TO YOU FIRST. 3385 02:35:20,440 --> 02:35:24,400 I WAS INTERESTED IN THE LINE 3386 02:35:24,400 --> 02:35:25,520 ABOUT LOOKING FOR COMMUNITY AND 3387 02:35:25,520 --> 02:35:28,200 WHAT MOTIVATED YOU BECAUSE I'M 3388 02:35:28,200 --> 02:35:29,680 FASCINATED BY WHAT THAT 3389 02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:32,440 COMMUNITY HAS BECOME AND HOW IT 3390 02:35:32,440 --> 02:35:33,160 SPREAD. 3391 02:35:33,160 --> 02:35:35,600 ALSO THE PRACTICE THAT YOU'VE 3392 02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:35,840 CREATED. 3393 02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:39,880 THIS PRACTICE OF DOING NOT JUST 3394 02:35:39,880 --> 02:35:41,840 THE RIGOR WORK BUT THE WORK OF 3395 02:35:41,840 --> 02:35:44,000 CREATING COMMUNITY. 3396 02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:45,080 WOULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT 3397 02:35:45,080 --> 02:35:46,040 ABOUT THAT. 3398 02:35:46,040 --> 02:35:48,760 >> MOSTHE THIS 3399 02:35:48,760 --> 02:35:49,680 LOCAL LEVEL. 3400 02:35:49,680 --> 02:35:54,080 MY EXPERIENCES COME FROM THE 3401 02:35:54,080 --> 02:35:59,120 THREE LOCAL LEVELS I'VE 3402 02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:06,240 EXPERIENCED AND AT SOME POINT WE 3403 02:36:06,240 --> 02:36:08,760 LIKE THE WHOLE READING PAPERS 3404 02:36:08,760 --> 02:36:13,920 THINGS BECAME A GUISE FOR 3405 02:36:13,920 --> 02:36:17,840 EVERYONE MEETING AND EXCITING 3406 02:36:17,840 --> 02:36:20,760 SHARING OF THINGS WE'VE SEEN. 3407 02:36:20,760 --> 02:36:24,080 >> IT WAS FANTASTIC. 3408 02:36:24,080 --> 02:36:26,840 WE NEVER KNEW IT WAS GOING TO 3409 02:36:26,840 --> 02:36:28,320 HAPPEN BUT WE WERE HAVING TEA 3410 02:36:28,320 --> 02:36:30,240 AND EATING BISCUITS AND EVERYONE 3411 02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:31,360 TOOK THE TIME OUT IN THEIR WEEK 3412 02:36:31,360 --> 02:36:36,080 TO DEDICATE TO THAT. 3413 02:36:36,080 --> 02:36:37,240 >> THAT'S LOVELY. 3414 02:36:37,240 --> 02:36:38,440 AN AGENDA, PROBABLY SOMETHING 3415 02:36:38,440 --> 02:36:40,640 FOR US TO THINK ABOUT AS WE'RE 3416 02:36:40,640 --> 02:36:42,320 THINKING OF THIS COMMUNITY, 3417 02:36:42,320 --> 02:36:43,440 RIGHT? 3418 02:36:43,440 --> 02:36:44,800 WHAT THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT 3419 02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:45,760 ULTIMATELY BE. 3420 02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:47,840 I'M GIVING YOU SOME HINTS, STEVE 3421 02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:50,320 AND VERONIQUE. 3422 02:36:50,320 --> 02:37:00,760 WE WANT FUN AND FRIVOLITY. 3423 02:37:10,800 --> 02:37:11,080 FRIV-OL-O-TEA. 3424 02:37:11,080 --> 02:37:11,560 WE'RE ON FIRE. 3425 02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:15,080 YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE WAY THE 3426 02:37:15,080 --> 02:37:15,600 HEALTH ALLIANCE HAS BEEN 3427 02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:19,520 THINKING AND GROWING. 3428 02:37:19,520 --> 02:37:21,440 I HAVE A HARD QUESTION FOR YOU. 3429 02:37:21,440 --> 02:37:27,280 I'M CURIOUS BASED ON ALL THE 3430 02:37:27,280 --> 02:37:28,280 KNOWLEDGE YOU'VE HAD NOW. 3431 02:37:28,280 --> 02:37:30,080 WHAT DO YOU WISH YOU WOULD HAVE 3432 02:37:30,080 --> 02:37:31,680 KNOWN FIVE YEARS AGO YOU KNOW 3433 02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:33,640 NOW ABOUT WORKING STRATEGICALLY 3434 02:37:33,640 --> 02:37:36,920 ACROSS THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT 3435 02:37:36,920 --> 02:37:37,480 GROUPS? 3436 02:37:37,480 --> 02:37:39,480 >> THE RIGHT THING IS NOT 3437 02:37:39,480 --> 02:37:44,240 NECESSARILY OBVIOUS. 3438 02:37:44,240 --> 02:37:50,920 WHAT I THINK MISSION, PASSIONS, 3439 02:37:50,920 --> 02:37:55,560 EMOTION PLAYS SO MUCH INTO THE 3440 02:37:55,560 --> 02:37:56,760 DECISIONS OF THE LEADERSHIP 3441 02:37:56,760 --> 02:38:00,720 ESPECIALLY PATIENT-BASED 3442 02:38:00,720 --> 02:38:01,680 ORGANIZATIONS. 3443 02:38:01,680 --> 02:38:03,480 IT'S HARD TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO 3444 02:38:03,480 --> 02:38:04,840 CHANGE BEHAVIORS WHEN THINGS ARE 3445 02:38:04,840 --> 02:38:15,080 TO THE HEART. 3446 02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:20,600 SUCCESS IS HUGE AND IN THAT WAY. 3447 02:38:20,600 --> 02:38:21,200 >> BRILLIANT. 3448 02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:22,000 THANK YOU. 3449 02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:22,760 MARCUS I'M GOING TO IMPOSE 3450 02:38:22,760 --> 02:38:31,080 BECAUSE I KNOW THINGS. 3451 02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:33,200 IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO 3452 02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:36,720 UNDERSTAND THE SCALE OF UKRN AND 3453 02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:38,920 WHAT DOES THAT FEEL LIKE AND 3454 02:38:38,920 --> 02:38:40,720 LOOK LIKE BEING AT THE FOREFRONT 3455 02:38:40,720 --> 02:38:50,920 OF SCALE. 3456 02:38:51,560 --> 02:38:51,600 3457 02:38:51,600 --> 02:38:54,160 >> A BIG CHALLENGE WAS MANAGING 3458 02:38:54,160 --> 02:38:56,360 GROWTH AND WE WAITED UNTIL THE 3459 02:38:56,360 --> 02:38:57,920 TIME WAS RIGHT. 3460 02:38:57,920 --> 02:38:59,400 WE WERE DOING A LOT OF LOBBYING 3461 02:38:59,400 --> 02:39:00,760 WITH FUNDERS AND OTHER 3462 02:39:00,760 --> 02:39:02,760 ORGANIZATIONS AND MANAGED TO GET 3463 02:39:02,760 --> 02:39:05,240 THEM IN THE END OF THE ROOM 3464 02:39:05,240 --> 02:39:09,480 AROUND SEPTEMBER 2018 AND GOT 3465 02:39:09,480 --> 02:39:10,800 THE BUY-IN TO LAUNCH AND OUR 3466 02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:12,240 STRATEGY WAS TO ASK FOR A LARGE 3467 02:39:12,240 --> 02:39:17,800 AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM A LARGE 3468 02:39:17,800 --> 02:39:20,720 AMOUNT OF FUNDERS AND KNEW THERE 3469 02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:22,440 WAS GRASSROOTS ACTIVITY AND MANY 3470 02:39:22,440 --> 02:39:23,840 EARLIER CAREER RESEARCHERS WHO 3471 02:39:23,840 --> 02:39:26,360 WERE PUSHING FOR CHANGE, IF YOU 3472 02:39:26,360 --> 02:39:28,560 LIKE AND WE WERE ABLE TO HARNESS 3473 02:39:28,560 --> 02:39:28,760 THAT. 3474 02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:30,320 THE GROWTH INITIALLY WAS IN 3475 02:39:30,320 --> 02:39:32,600 LOCAL NETWORKS BRINGING TOGETHER 3476 02:39:32,600 --> 02:39:35,800 COMMUNITIES AND USED THAT 3477 02:39:35,800 --> 02:39:36,680 FUNDING TO SUPPORT ANOTHER 3478 02:39:36,680 --> 02:39:43,840 INITIATIVES THAT WERE ALIGNED 3479 02:39:43,840 --> 02:39:46,840 LIKE REPRODUCIBILITY AND SEND 3480 02:39:46,840 --> 02:39:49,440 OUT TEA AND BISCUITS AND 3481 02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:52,040 ARTICLES AND IT CREATED BUZZ ON 3482 02:39:52,040 --> 02:39:59,160 TWITTER AND FED INTO A POSITIVE 3483 02:39:59,160 --> 02:40:03,520 FEEDBACK LOOP. 3484 02:40:03,520 --> 02:40:05,680 WE LINED UP A SMALL NUMBERS BUT 3485 02:40:05,680 --> 02:40:07,920 WAITED UNTIL WE HAD CRITICAL 3486 02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:09,880 PASS. 3487 02:40:09,880 --> 02:40:12,120 I THINK WE HAD A COMMENT IN 3488 02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:15,480 NATURE TO ANNOUNCE WE HAD THAT 3489 02:40:15,480 --> 02:40:17,480 TOGETHER. 3490 02:40:17,480 --> 02:40:20,760 THERE WAS A WAITING UNTIL THE 3491 02:40:20,760 --> 02:40:23,760 TIME WAS RIGHT. 3492 02:40:23,760 --> 02:40:26,480 WHEN THERE WERE 10 UNIVERSITIES 3493 02:40:26,480 --> 02:40:28,120 OTHERS WANT TO BE PART OF THE 3494 02:40:28,120 --> 02:40:30,160 CLUB AND GOT OTHERS TO JOIN. 3495 02:40:30,160 --> 02:40:31,440 THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED TO 3496 02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:32,360 MANAGE THE GROWTH AND THE 3497 02:40:32,360 --> 02:40:33,920 STRATEGY WAS ALWAYS TO HAVE THE 3498 02:40:33,920 --> 02:40:35,880 FUNDING FOR THREE YEARS AND TO 3499 02:40:35,880 --> 02:40:38,040 GET MORE SUBSTANTIAL 3500 02:40:38,040 --> 02:40:39,520 PROGRAMMATIC FUNDING THAT WOULD 3501 02:40:39,520 --> 02:40:41,720 THEN EXTEND BEYOND THAT AND GOT 3502 02:40:41,720 --> 02:40:42,840 THAT FIVE YEARS FROM RESEARCH 3503 02:40:42,840 --> 02:40:45,800 WHICH IS PART OF UKRI WHICH IS 3504 02:40:45,800 --> 02:40:49,120 THIS OPEN RESEARCH PROGRAM. 3505 02:40:49,120 --> 02:40:53,240 WE NOW HAVE MORE SUSTAINABLE 3506 02:40:53,240 --> 02:40:54,760 PUTTING AND THE NEXT CHALLENGE 3507 02:40:54,760 --> 02:40:58,840 WILL MOVE TO A MORE SUSTAINABLE 3508 02:40:58,840 --> 02:41:00,120 MODEL OF FUNDING SO WE DON'T 3509 02:41:00,120 --> 02:41:02,160 HAVE TO GO BACK FOR THAT 3510 02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:02,400 SUPPORT. 3511 02:41:02,400 --> 02:41:06,800 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT MARCUS. 3512 02:41:06,800 --> 02:41:07,960 I KNEW I WASN'T PUTTING YOU ON 3513 02:41:07,960 --> 02:41:10,000 THE SPOT TO DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE 3514 02:41:10,000 --> 02:41:15,480 THAT GROWTH AND MODEL OF HOW TO 3515 02:41:15,480 --> 02:41:19,720 SCALE AND THEN BEING STRATEGIC 3516 02:41:19,720 --> 02:41:23,240 ABOUT IT WILL BE A POWERFUL 3517 02:41:23,240 --> 02:41:23,880 CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD FOR 3518 02:41:23,880 --> 02:41:32,720 THIS GROUP. 3519 02:41:32,720 --> 02:41:39,520 NAME -- NAOMI, FROM WHAT YOU 3520 02:41:39,520 --> 02:41:43,120 DESCRIBED YOU WERE VERY TACTICAL 3521 02:41:43,120 --> 02:41:44,720 ABOUT HOW THE OFFICE WAS GOING 3522 02:41:44,720 --> 02:41:46,800 TO WORK AND HOW YOU MIGHT 3523 02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:51,800 INTERACT ACROSS SOMETHING AS 3524 02:41:51,800 --> 02:41:56,760 LARGE AS THE SYSTEM AT COLUMBIA. 3525 02:41:56,760 --> 02:42:01,800 TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION. 3526 02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:03,160 HOW MUCH HAS YOUR OFFICE TRIED 3527 02:42:03,160 --> 02:42:04,720 TO DEVOLVE IN THE LOCAL LEVEL. 3528 02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:06,320 WE TALKED ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION 3529 02:42:06,320 --> 02:42:07,360 AMONG THIS GROUP AND TALKED 3530 02:42:07,360 --> 02:42:10,120 ABOUT IT IN THE NICE ABSTRACT 3531 02:42:10,120 --> 02:42:12,680 WAY LIKE IT MAGICALLY HAPPENED 3532 02:42:12,680 --> 02:42:13,840 BY SOMETHING UP THERE WHO WILL 3533 02:42:13,840 --> 02:42:14,920 DO SOMETHING. 3534 02:42:14,920 --> 02:42:17,000 YOU'RE CLOSER TO THAT AT THAT 3535 02:42:17,000 --> 02:42:25,200 MICROLEVEL. 3536 02:42:25,200 --> 02:42:31,880 >> SO IMPLEMENTATION. 3537 02:42:31,880 --> 02:42:33,000 WE DID A FAIR AMOUNT OF 3538 02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:33,320 PLANNING. 3539 02:42:33,320 --> 02:42:38,120 WE PLANNED AND DOCUMENTED AND WE 3540 02:42:38,120 --> 02:42:39,680 HAD A PROJECT PLAN THAT LAID OUT 3541 02:42:39,680 --> 02:42:45,520 WHAT OUR OBJECTIVES WERE AND GOT 3542 02:42:45,520 --> 02:42:53,240 FEEDBACK ON IT FROM CHAMPIONS 3543 02:42:53,240 --> 02:42:56,760 AND LOTS OF PLACES INCLUDING THE 3544 02:42:56,760 --> 02:42:58,520 FACULTY COMMITTEES. 3545 02:42:58,520 --> 02:42:59,720 WE KIND OF FORMED A LITTLE 3546 02:42:59,720 --> 02:43:01,240 ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDED 3547 02:43:01,240 --> 02:43:02,080 MEMBERS OF A FEW COMMITTEES THAT 3548 02:43:02,080 --> 02:43:07,960 HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. 3549 02:43:07,960 --> 02:43:10,920 SO THEY HELPED US AND 3550 02:43:10,920 --> 02:43:12,120 RELATIONSHIPS PLAY A HUGE ROLES. 3551 02:43:12,120 --> 02:43:13,720 ONCE WE DEVELOPED A PLAN WE 3552 02:43:13,720 --> 02:43:16,760 NEEDED TO PARTNER WITH LOTS OF 3553 02:43:16,760 --> 02:43:24,760 PEOPLE IN OUR UNIVERSITY. 3554 02:43:24,760 --> 02:43:33,520 I NEEDED THE ASSOCIATE DEAN TO 3555 02:43:33,520 --> 02:43:36,920 GIVE US A TIME SLOT AND SAME WAS 3556 02:43:36,920 --> 02:43:37,840 TRUE FOR NEW FACULTY 3557 02:43:37,840 --> 02:43:38,880 ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY NEEDED TO 3558 02:43:38,880 --> 02:43:40,880 KNOW THEM TO REACH OUT TO THEM 3559 02:43:40,880 --> 02:43:45,520 TO SAY HEY, I KNOW WE'VE GOT TEN 3560 02:43:45,520 --> 02:43:47,400 NEW ENGINEERING PROFESSORS 3561 02:43:47,400 --> 02:43:48,640 COMING END AND I'D LOVE 30 3562 02:43:48,640 --> 02:43:51,520 MINUTES OF YOUR ORIENTATION FOR 3563 02:43:51,520 --> 02:43:51,800 THEM. 3564 02:43:51,800 --> 02:43:56,720 IT'S A LOT OF RELATIONSHIPS AND 3565 02:43:56,720 --> 02:43:59,000 A LOT OF NETWORKING AND THEN 3566 02:43:59,000 --> 02:44:00,720 HAVING THE OBJECTIVES IN MIND OF 3567 02:44:00,720 --> 02:44:02,960 WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO GET TO AT 3568 02:44:02,960 --> 02:44:04,720 THE SAME TIME AND ALWAYS HAVING 3569 02:44:04,720 --> 02:44:07,760 A VALUE TO ADD. 3570 02:44:07,760 --> 02:44:10,200 IT'S NOT ABOUT -- THIS PROCESS 3571 02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:13,080 HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT COMPLIANCE. 3572 02:44:13,080 --> 02:44:15,520 THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF MY ROLE 3573 02:44:15,520 --> 02:44:17,960 HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT COMPLIANCE. 3574 02:44:17,960 --> 02:44:22,920 IT'S HOW CAN YOU MAKE THE BEST 3575 02:44:22,920 --> 02:44:27,080 USE OF YOUR TIME AND WHAT 3576 02:44:27,080 --> 02:44:28,720 RESEARCH AND WHAT CAN YOU OFFER? 3577 02:44:28,720 --> 02:44:30,480 >> YOU HELP US GET BACK TO THE 3578 02:44:30,480 --> 02:44:32,200 QUESTIONS OF VALUES WE WERE 3579 02:44:32,200 --> 02:44:33,520 TALKING ABOUT OVER THE LAST FEW 3580 02:44:33,520 --> 02:44:33,760 DAYS. 3581 02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:39,040 THE POWER OF COLLABORATIONS AND 3582 02:44:39,040 --> 02:44:42,120 NETWORKS AND STAYING QUITE 3583 02:44:42,120 --> 02:44:45,040 FOCUSES NOT ONLY THE COMPLIANCE 3584 02:44:45,040 --> 02:44:49,320 BUT THE BRILLIANT WORK WE WANT 3585 02:44:49,320 --> 02:44:50,520 TO ENCOURAGE AND ENABLE OUR 3586 02:44:50,520 --> 02:44:51,520 COMMUNITIES TO PREPARE AND 3587 02:44:51,520 --> 02:44:55,160 PRODUCE. 3588 02:44:55,160 --> 02:44:56,200 ALL RIGHT, YOU GET FIVE MINUTES. 3589 02:44:56,200 --> 02:45:00,240 MAKE THE MOST OF THIS AND WE'LL 3590 02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:03,120 SEE YOU BACK AT JUST BEFORE A 3591 02:45:03,120 --> 02:45:05,400 QUARTER 'TILL. 3592 02:45:05,400 --> 02:45:08,000 >>THANKS TO THE PANEL NOR GREAT 3593 02:45:08,000 --> 02:45:12,680 PRESENTATIONS AND KAREN THANKS 3594 02:45:12,680 --> 02:45:14,560 FOR THE WONDERFUL JOB LEADING 3595 02:45:14,560 --> 02:45:15,160 THE GROUP. 3596 02:45:15,160 --> 02:45:16,280 MY QUESTION IS TARGETED AT 3597 02:45:16,280 --> 02:45:18,760 MARYROSE FRANCO. 3598 02:45:18,760 --> 02:45:23,800 SO I WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THE 3599 02:45:23,800 --> 02:45:30,480 WORK OF HELIOS AND WANTED TO SEE 3600 02:45:30,480 --> 02:45:34,200 IT AS A COLLECTIVE PROBLEM AND 3601 02:45:34,200 --> 02:45:38,200 MY HOME INSTITUTION THE 3602 02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:39,800 UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON IS NOT 3603 02:45:39,800 --> 02:45:41,840 LISTED SO WANTED ADVICE AND THE 3604 02:45:41,840 --> 02:45:44,880 LEADERS AT THE INSTITUTION. 3605 02:45:44,880 --> 02:45:47,240 DO I E-MAIL, THE PRESIDENT, THE 3606 02:45:47,240 --> 02:45:48,400 PROVOST OF THE UNIVERSITY? 3607 02:45:48,400 --> 02:45:49,080 WHAT DO I DO? 3608 02:45:49,080 --> 02:45:57,280 >> THAT'S A LOCAL QUESTION. 3609 02:45:57,280 --> 02:45:59,200 I DON'T KNOW WHO THE CHAMPIONS 3610 02:45:59,200 --> 02:46:01,880 ARE AT YOUR UNIVERSITY AND THOSE 3611 02:46:01,880 --> 02:46:05,200 PEOPLE SHOULD RUN IT UP THE FLAG 3612 02:46:05,200 --> 02:46:12,400 POLE. 3613 02:46:12,400 --> 02:46:13,400 ALSO IT'S A LOT OF PEER 3614 02:46:13,400 --> 02:46:13,720 PRESSURE. 3615 02:46:13,720 --> 02:46:16,320 YOU CAN CONTACT THE HELIOS STAFF 3616 02:46:16,320 --> 02:46:23,840 AND I CAN E-MAIL YOU. 3617 02:46:23,840 --> 02:46:27,120 WHAT'S HELPED IS THE FUNDERS 3618 02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:27,760 E-MAIL DIRECTLY SAYING WHY 3619 02:46:27,760 --> 02:46:36,000 AREN'T YOU PART OF OUR GROUP? 3620 02:46:36,000 --> 02:46:38,160 DANIELS FROM HOPKINS OR WHOEVER 3621 02:46:38,160 --> 02:46:39,560 HOLDS SWAY SAY WE NEED YOU TO BE 3622 02:46:39,560 --> 02:46:40,600 PART OF THE HELIOS. 3623 02:46:40,600 --> 02:46:41,480 YOU CAN E-MAIL ME AND A CAN SET 3624 02:46:41,480 --> 02:46:47,640 YOU UP. 3625 02:46:47,640 --> 02:46:51,600 THOUGH THE PRESIDENTS MAY BE THE 3626 02:46:51,600 --> 02:46:54,240 INFLUENCES MARRY ROSE IS THE 3627 02:46:54,240 --> 02:46:57,480 WIDE BRIDGE. 3628 02:46:57,480 --> 02:46:58,840 >> ONE THING THAT'S WORKED WELL 3629 02:46:58,840 --> 02:47:00,080 FOR US AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 3630 02:47:00,080 --> 02:47:03,280 FLORIDA IS WE HAVE A LIST OF OUR 3631 02:47:03,280 --> 02:47:05,880 PEER COMPETITOR UNIVERSITIES AND 3632 02:47:05,880 --> 02:47:07,960 ONCE WE TELL SOMEONE IN 3633 02:47:07,960 --> 02:47:09,160 ADMINISTRATION, OH, THE U.C. 3634 02:47:09,160 --> 02:47:12,840 SYSTEM IS DOING X, Y, Z, THEN 3635 02:47:12,840 --> 02:47:13,400 SUDDENLY THE WHEELS START 3636 02:47:13,400 --> 02:47:14,320 TURNING TO GET THAT IMPLEMENTED 3637 02:47:14,320 --> 02:47:22,440 FOR US. 3638 02:47:22,440 --> 02:47:24,440 >> A QUESTION COMMENT BEFORE THE 3639 02:47:24,440 --> 02:47:24,720 QUESTION. 3640 02:47:24,720 --> 02:47:29,160 I LOVE THE WORK NAOMI'S DONE AT 3641 02:47:29,160 --> 02:47:30,000 COLUMBIA. 3642 02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:31,760 IT'S A FABULOUS SOLUTION FOR A 3643 02:47:31,760 --> 02:47:34,840 VERY IMPORTANT PROBLEM AND COULD 3644 02:47:34,840 --> 02:47:43,760 BE IMPLEMENTED AND SCALED UP. 3645 02:47:43,760 --> 02:47:47,240 A QUESTION TO MARY ON HOW TO 3646 02:47:47,240 --> 02:47:48,880 CREATE MUTUALLY ENFORCING 3647 02:47:48,880 --> 02:47:52,920 VECTORS. 3648 02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:55,200 I'M NOT SO SURE. 3649 02:47:55,200 --> 02:47:57,120 IT FEELS LIKE COMPETING VECTORS 3650 02:47:57,120 --> 02:48:00,440 SOMETIMES AND YOU SUGGESTED WE 3651 02:48:00,440 --> 02:48:04,880 IDENTIFY COMMON INTERESTS ACROSS 3652 02:48:04,880 --> 02:48:05,200 STAKEHOLDERS. 3653 02:48:05,200 --> 02:48:08,040 YOU SAY IT MUST BE A WIN-WIN BUT 3654 02:48:08,040 --> 02:48:08,800 IT'S OFTEN THE CASE IT'S NOT A 3655 02:48:08,800 --> 02:48:14,760 WIN-WIN. 3656 02:48:14,760 --> 02:48:22,200 THAT IS SOME POWERFUL FORCES 3657 02:48:22,200 --> 02:48:22,440 INVOLVED. 3658 02:48:22,440 --> 02:48:27,600 WHEN BIG POLICY CHANGES ARE 3659 02:48:27,600 --> 02:48:30,320 COMING FROM INSTITUTES LIKE NIH. 3660 02:48:30,320 --> 02:48:33,560 I HEARD FROM SHAW ABOUT 3661 02:48:33,560 --> 02:48:35,200 UNIVERSITIES LOBBY AGAINST THE 3662 02:48:35,200 --> 02:48:36,600 AGENCIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR 3663 02:48:36,600 --> 02:48:37,880 OWN INTERESTS TO PROTECT. 3664 02:48:37,880 --> 02:48:41,520 I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN 3665 02:48:41,520 --> 02:48:44,720 COMMENT ON HOW YOU GO ABOUT 3666 02:48:44,720 --> 02:48:46,360 ACHIEVING FUNDAMENTAL REFORMS. 3667 02:48:46,360 --> 02:48:49,640 NOT SMALL SIMPLE THINGS BUT 3668 02:48:49,640 --> 02:48:51,160 SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL LIKE RIGOR 3669 02:48:51,160 --> 02:48:53,160 INTO MOST STAGES OF RESEARCH. 3670 02:48:53,160 --> 02:48:57,400 THANK YOU. 3671 02:48:57,400 --> 02:49:02,640 >> I STILL BELIEVE THE ONLY WAY 3672 02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:06,000 YOU'RE GOING TO -- SOMEONE IS 3673 02:49:06,000 --> 02:49:07,880 WILLING TO MAKE A HUGE BEHAVIOR 3674 02:49:07,880 --> 02:49:10,360 CHANGE IS IF IN SOME WAY IT 3675 02:49:10,360 --> 02:49:18,320 DOESN'T HARM THEM. 3676 02:49:18,320 --> 02:49:22,240 YOU NEED IT MAKE SURE THAT 3677 02:49:22,240 --> 02:49:23,760 CHANGE IS IN THAT STAKEHOLDERS 3678 02:49:23,760 --> 02:49:28,680 OR INDIVIDUAL'S INTEREST. 3679 02:49:28,680 --> 02:49:33,560 IT'S HARD TO GET THEM TO DO 3680 02:49:33,560 --> 02:49:41,200 SOMETHING THAT WILL CAUSE HARM. 3681 02:49:41,200 --> 02:49:51,600 >> I THINK THE NEGATIVE 3682 02:49:53,280 --> 02:49:57,760 RETURN -- AND YOU KNOW THERE 3683 02:49:57,760 --> 02:49:59,160 WILL BE PUSHBACK FROM THE HIGHER 3684 02:49:59,160 --> 02:50:02,880 UPS AND UNIVERSITIES -- 3685 02:50:02,880 --> 02:50:05,200 >> TO DO WHAT? 3686 02:50:05,200 --> 02:50:07,440 >> ADVOCATING AGONISTS 3687 02:50:07,440 --> 02:50:08,840 PUBLISHING IN GLAMOUR JOURNALS 3688 02:50:08,840 --> 02:50:12,840 AS A WAY TO SHOW IMPACT AND 3689 02:50:12,840 --> 02:50:19,440 PROGRESS, SO TO SAY. 3690 02:50:19,440 --> 02:50:25,120 >> I'M GOING TO HELP US FOCUS ON 3691 02:50:25,120 --> 02:50:26,240 YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK 3692 02:50:26,240 --> 02:50:29,160 WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GIVE 3693 02:50:29,160 --> 02:50:32,320 IS NOT CONCRETE TO ONE SOLUTION 3694 02:50:32,320 --> 02:50:33,640 BUT EXAMPLES OF HOW FAR YOU 3695 02:50:33,640 --> 02:50:35,560 MIGHT BREAK STUFF DOWN AND HOW 3696 02:50:35,560 --> 02:50:41,240 YOU MIGHT GROW AND ACTUALLY LINK 3697 02:50:41,240 --> 02:50:46,360 UP AND IT MAY BE THAT WE'VE GOT 3698 02:50:46,360 --> 02:50:47,960 PUBLISHES IN THE ROOM HAVE YOU 3699 02:50:47,960 --> 02:50:49,480 CHATTED TO A FEW WHAT CAN YOU DO 3700 02:50:49,480 --> 02:50:54,720 TO BRING THE NETWORKS TOGETHER? 3701 02:50:54,720 --> 02:50:57,760 I'D GO BACK TO THE POINT MARCUS 3702 02:50:57,760 --> 02:51:01,760 RAISED, THE REPRODUCIBILITY 3703 02:51:01,760 --> 02:51:06,160 NETWORK AND REPRODUCIBILITY HAVE 3704 02:51:06,160 --> 02:51:09,040 BEEN FUNDED BY A RANGE OF 3705 02:51:09,040 --> 02:51:09,720 ENTITIES INCLUDING PEOPLE GIVING 3706 02:51:09,720 --> 02:51:12,320 THEIR TIME AND BY UKRI WITHOUT 3707 02:51:12,320 --> 02:51:14,640 IT BEING A MANDATE AND POLICY 3708 02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:19,480 CHANGE. 3709 02:51:19,480 --> 02:51:20,720 THAT'S NOT AN EXCELLENT TO BE 3710 02:51:20,720 --> 02:51:21,200 ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE. 3711 02:51:21,200 --> 02:51:23,240 IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING TO 3712 02:51:23,240 --> 02:51:24,320 CONTINUE TO THINK STRATEGICALLY 3713 02:51:24,320 --> 02:51:26,760 HOW WE MIGHT PACKAGE SOME OF 3714 02:51:26,760 --> 02:51:28,400 THIS UP MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS 3715 02:51:28,400 --> 02:51:30,240 OF THE TYPE OF CHANGE I THINK 3716 02:51:30,240 --> 02:51:35,760 TAKING ON MALCOLM'S POINT. 3717 02:51:35,760 --> 02:51:41,880 >> IT'S NOT -- WHAT YOUR 3718 02:51:41,880 --> 02:51:43,400 INTELLECTUAL IMPACT TO THAT 3719 02:51:43,400 --> 02:51:43,640 DISCOVERY. 3720 02:51:43,640 --> 02:51:48,760 WE'RE MOVING TO THAT DIRECTION 3721 02:51:48,760 --> 02:51:52,600 AND I THINK RESEARCHERS CAN TAKE 3722 02:51:52,600 --> 02:51:52,840 ADVANTAGE. 3723 02:51:52,840 --> 02:51:55,120 >> WE HAVE EVERYTHING THE RESUME 3724 02:51:55,120 --> 02:51:57,920 FOR RESEARCHERS AND INNOVATORS 3725 02:51:57,920 --> 02:51:59,200 BUT WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH 3726 02:51:59,200 --> 02:52:05,200 OTHERS ON THE NARRATIVE CVs 3727 02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:12,400 MOVING FORWARD BUT HOLD ON THAT 3728 02:52:12,400 --> 02:52:14,040 TO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A PLACE 3729 02:52:14,040 --> 02:52:15,120 FOR THAT IN OUR NEXT 3730 02:52:15,120 --> 02:52:15,520 CONVERSATION. 3731 02:52:15,520 --> 02:52:16,200 WE'LL MOVE TO THE LEFT AND THEN 3732 02:52:16,200 --> 02:52:22,800 RIGHT. 3733 02:52:22,800 --> 02:52:29,200 >> KAREN, YOU MENTIONED 3734 02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:33,520 SCALABILITY AND WE SCALE THE WAY 3735 02:52:33,520 --> 02:52:35,600 AND YOU SHOWED IT NICELY PUSHING 3736 02:52:35,600 --> 02:52:40,880 OUT FURTHER TO MORE AND MORE 3737 02:52:40,880 --> 02:52:41,160 NETWORKS. 3738 02:52:41,160 --> 02:52:42,520 WE KNOW THERE'S CONNECTIONS 3739 02:52:42,520 --> 02:52:44,040 BETWEEN THE STAKEHOLDERS THERE 3740 02:52:44,040 --> 02:52:48,440 AND WE ALL KNOW WE CAN WRITE ON 3741 02:52:48,440 --> 02:52:50,320 OUR BOARDS AND USE WORDS LIKE 3742 02:52:50,320 --> 02:52:51,880 RIGOR AND REPRODUCIBILITY AND 3743 02:52:51,880 --> 02:52:53,200 OPEN SCIENCE THAT HAVE MANY 3744 02:52:53,200 --> 02:52:54,320 ELEMENTS THAT CUT ACROFT. 3745 02:52:54,320 --> 02:52:56,480 I'M WONDERING IF YOU'VE HAD BOTH 3746 02:52:56,480 --> 02:52:58,640 RESISTANCE TO TRY TO FIND LIKE 3747 02:52:58,640 --> 02:53:00,880 THE PLANTING SEED WITHIN A GIVEN 3748 02:53:00,880 --> 02:53:05,080 COMMUNITY TO ALLOW IT TO SCALE 3749 02:53:05,080 --> 02:53:07,800 ACROSS COMMUNITIES SAY DATA. 3750 02:53:07,800 --> 02:53:09,840 DATA IS ONE YOU CAN LATCH ON TO 3751 02:53:09,840 --> 02:53:15,160 AND DOES THAT START TO OPEN 3752 02:53:15,160 --> 02:53:19,760 DOORS TO OTHER CONVERSATIONS? 3753 02:53:19,760 --> 02:53:24,160 IF I GET COMMUNITY ENCOURAGEMENT 3754 02:53:24,160 --> 02:53:26,320 ON OPEN DATA AND ALL OF A SUDDEN 3755 02:53:26,320 --> 02:53:28,680 YOU KNOCK DOWN A BARRIER. 3756 02:53:28,680 --> 02:53:30,320 WONDERING IF YOU CAN REFLECT ON 3757 02:53:30,320 --> 02:53:31,920 ANY OF THAT. 3758 02:53:31,920 --> 02:53:33,280 I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER ELEMENT 3759 02:53:33,280 --> 02:53:33,840 OF SCALABILITY. 3760 02:53:33,840 --> 02:53:35,200 YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. 3761 02:53:35,200 --> 02:53:37,680 YOU CAN START TO CONNECT THE 3762 02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:39,960 BRIDGES TO ORGANIZATIONS. 3763 02:53:39,960 --> 02:53:46,720 >> MARCUS, DO YOU WANT TO DO? 3764 02:53:46,720 --> 02:53:50,800 >> YOU NEED TO CREATE STRUCTURED 3765 02:53:50,800 --> 02:53:52,360 APPROACHES FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO BE 3766 02:53:52,360 --> 02:53:54,960 RELEVANT TO A BROADER RANGE AND 3767 02:53:54,960 --> 02:53:55,920 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW IN THE 3768 02:53:55,920 --> 02:53:57,120 U.S. AND THE CONVERSATION 3769 02:53:57,120 --> 02:54:02,240 BETWEEN SESSIONS MAYBE THEY NEED 3770 02:54:02,240 --> 02:54:06,160 TO USE BEER RATHER THAN TEA AND 3771 02:54:06,160 --> 02:54:11,160 OTHERS DRINK COFFEE NOT TEA. 3772 02:54:11,160 --> 02:54:17,200 WITHIN UKRN WE HAVE THE 3773 02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:19,520 UNIVERSITY OF OTHERS WHICH IS 3774 02:54:19,520 --> 02:54:21,400 MORE TEACHING INTENSIVE SO A 3775 02:54:21,400 --> 02:54:26,320 DIVERSE RANGE OF INSTITUTIONS 3776 02:54:26,320 --> 02:54:28,280 WITH DIFFERENT NEEDS AND LOCAL 3777 02:54:28,280 --> 02:54:29,960 STRUCTURES AND THAT'S TRUE AT 3778 02:54:29,960 --> 02:54:30,520 THE NATIONAL LEVEL IN THE 3779 02:54:30,520 --> 02:54:33,000 CONTEXT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING 3780 02:54:33,000 --> 02:54:35,240 ABOUT AND THERE ARE A SUITE OF 3781 02:54:35,240 --> 02:54:37,160 OPEN RESEARCH PRACTICES IF IT'S 3782 02:54:37,160 --> 02:54:38,320 GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE DECIDE 3783 02:54:38,320 --> 02:54:40,040 TO FOCUS ON BUT OUR ATTITUDE HAS 3784 02:54:40,040 --> 02:54:44,520 BEEN PICK A PLACE TO START. 3785 02:54:44,520 --> 02:54:50,200 DATA AND WHAT IS CLOSEST TO HOW 3786 02:54:50,200 --> 02:54:52,120 YOU ALREADY WORK IT'S ABOUT 3787 02:54:52,120 --> 02:54:53,600 RETAINING THE FLEXIBILITY TO 3788 02:54:53,600 --> 02:54:55,080 MAKE WHAT WE DO RELEVANT AND 3789 02:54:55,080 --> 02:54:56,960 TAILOR IT TO THEIR LOCAL CONTEXT 3790 02:54:56,960 --> 02:54:59,240 AND REDUCING THE BARRIERS TO 3791 02:54:59,240 --> 02:55:01,960 ENTRY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 3792 02:55:01,960 --> 02:55:07,720 >> NAOMI OR SOFIA WOULD YOU LIKE 3793 02:55:07,720 --> 02:55:08,640 TO ADD? 3794 02:55:08,640 --> 02:55:10,920 >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A PLUG FOR 3795 02:55:10,920 --> 02:55:15,480 DATA MANAGEMENT AS A PLACE TO 3796 02:55:15,480 --> 02:55:19,160 START BECAUSE IT'S APPLICABLE TO 3797 02:55:19,160 --> 02:55:22,040 EVERY FIELD AND SOMETHING EVERY 3798 02:55:22,040 --> 02:55:24,480 RESEARCHER CARES ABOUT. 3799 02:55:24,480 --> 02:55:28,200 RIGOR CAN IMPLY JUDGMENT. 3800 02:55:28,200 --> 02:55:30,240 YOUR RESEARCH ISN'T RIGOROUS 3801 02:55:30,240 --> 02:55:30,480 ENOUGH. 3802 02:55:30,480 --> 02:55:33,000 DATA MANAGEMENT, NOT SO MUCH 3803 02:55:33,000 --> 02:55:35,200 JUDGMENT OF THE SAME KIND LESS 3804 02:55:35,200 --> 02:55:38,160 VALUE JUDGMENT MORE FOCUS ON 3805 02:55:38,160 --> 02:55:39,880 PROCESS I THINK THAT CAN BE 3806 02:55:39,880 --> 02:55:40,360 USEFUL IN THE KIND OF 3807 02:55:40,360 --> 02:55:50,720 ENVIRONMENT WE'RE IN. 3808 02:55:52,640 --> 02:55:53,880 >> FIRST THANK YOU FOR WONDERFUL 3809 02:55:53,880 --> 02:55:55,120 PRESENTATIONS YOU DID THIS 3810 02:55:55,120 --> 02:55:55,400 AFTERNOON. 3811 02:55:55,400 --> 02:55:57,520 I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR 3812 02:55:57,520 --> 02:55:59,320 COMMITMENT TO WHAT WE ARE ALL 3813 02:55:59,320 --> 02:56:02,760 HEAR TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. 3814 02:56:02,760 --> 02:56:05,240 IN PARTICULAR I WANT TO 3815 02:56:05,240 --> 02:56:10,560 CONGRATULATION SOPHIA FOR THE 3816 02:56:10,560 --> 02:56:10,840 INITIATIVE. 3817 02:56:10,840 --> 02:56:15,360 I THINK STUDENTS AND THE NEW 3818 02:56:15,360 --> 02:56:17,240 GENERATION KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD 3819 02:56:17,240 --> 02:56:19,520 BE AIMING AT AND WE'RE BOTH 3820 02:56:19,520 --> 02:56:21,240 LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER AND I 3821 02:56:21,240 --> 02:56:22,880 WANT YOU TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO 3822 02:56:22,880 --> 02:56:24,800 CONTINUE IN THAT PATH. 3823 02:56:24,800 --> 02:56:25,680 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO 3824 02:56:25,680 --> 02:56:34,360 WHAT I HEAR IS HOW CAN WE COME 3825 02:56:34,360 --> 02:56:38,320 TOGETHER? 3826 02:56:38,320 --> 02:56:42,320 THERE'S THE WORLD HEALTH 3827 02:56:42,320 --> 02:56:42,920 ORGANIZATION? 3828 02:56:42,920 --> 02:56:45,600 I'M NOT MAKING A JOKE BUT WE'RE 3829 02:56:45,600 --> 02:56:46,200 GATHERED TOGETHER FROM ALL OVER 3830 02:56:46,200 --> 02:56:54,240 THE WORLD. 3831 02:56:54,240 --> 02:56:56,440 PERHAPS WE HAD PEOPLE FROM ASIA 3832 02:56:56,440 --> 02:56:57,960 OR AFRICA BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE 3833 02:56:57,960 --> 02:57:05,080 DONE THAT AS WELL BUT AMONG 3834 02:57:05,080 --> 02:57:07,640 OURSELVES BUT IN THE TIME OF 3835 02:57:07,640 --> 02:57:08,360 DIGITALIZATION MAYBE -- I KNOW 3836 02:57:08,360 --> 02:57:11,720 IT'S HARD AND MAYBE WE NEED 3837 02:57:11,720 --> 02:57:13,800 LEVERAGE THAT COULD MAKE IT LIKE 3838 02:57:13,800 --> 02:57:15,360 A HUB AT LEAST A DIGITAL HUB OF 3839 02:57:15,360 --> 02:57:17,080 ALL OF US. 3840 02:57:17,080 --> 02:57:18,800 A PLACE WHERE WE CAN CONNECT 3841 02:57:18,800 --> 02:57:20,120 BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A LIST OF 3842 02:57:20,120 --> 02:57:26,320 THINGS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO 3843 02:57:26,320 --> 02:57:29,240 WITH BUT SOMETHING THAT MAKES 3844 02:57:29,240 --> 02:57:30,320 SENSE TO THE COMMUNITY OF 3845 02:57:30,320 --> 02:57:32,440 LEARNERS BECAUSE WE'RE ALL 3846 02:57:32,440 --> 02:57:33,440 LEARNERS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. 3847 02:57:33,440 --> 02:57:39,960 >> YOU PUT IT ON THE TABLE WHERE 3848 02:57:39,960 --> 02:57:45,080 TO GO NEXT. 3849 02:57:45,080 --> 02:57:49,720 >> IF WE SAY WE NEED TO LOOK AT 3850 02:57:49,720 --> 02:57:54,720 OUR INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES FROM 3851 02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:58,320 NEW YORK CITY TO SAN JUAN, 3852 02:57:58,320 --> 02:57:59,240 PUERTO RICO BUT THEN AGAIN 3853 02:57:59,240 --> 02:58:00,600 THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT 3854 02:58:00,600 --> 02:58:02,320 MAKE US COMMON AND WHAT WE 3855 02:58:02,320 --> 02:58:06,800 SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. 3856 02:58:06,800 --> 02:58:08,920 I KNOW THE EFFORTS OF ORGANIZERS 3857 02:58:08,920 --> 02:58:10,280 TODAY ARE AIMED AT THAT BUT I 3858 02:58:10,280 --> 02:58:11,760 THINK WE CAN CREATE SOMETHING 3859 02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:14,320 THAT WILL BE WORTH OUR WHILE SO 3860 02:58:14,320 --> 02:58:16,960 THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO 3861 02:58:16,960 --> 02:58:17,840 LEAVE IT. 3862 02:58:17,840 --> 02:58:20,560 >> WE HAVE THE WRAP-UP, CARMEN 3863 02:58:20,560 --> 02:58:23,960 AND IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD PLACE 3864 02:58:23,960 --> 02:58:26,320 TO COME BACK TO SIMILAR TO OUR 3865 02:58:26,320 --> 02:58:27,640 EARLIER CONVERSATION WHERE WE 3866 02:58:27,640 --> 02:58:34,320 CAN GO NEXT BUT MARRY ROSE AND 3867 02:58:34,320 --> 02:58:41,840 SOPHIA DO YOU WANT TO COME IN? 3868 02:58:41,840 --> 02:58:45,400 >> A QUICK COMMENT I THINK IT'S 3869 02:58:45,400 --> 02:58:46,320 SPOT ON. 3870 02:58:46,320 --> 02:58:48,040 WE ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WE'RE 3871 02:58:48,040 --> 02:58:49,040 ADDING RESOURCE NEEDS. 3872 02:58:49,040 --> 02:58:58,320 THEY'RE NOT FREEBIE -- FREE 3873 02:58:58,320 --> 02:58:59,640 BEHAVIORS AND DON'T WANT TO 3874 02:58:59,640 --> 02:59:00,880 DISADVANTAGE THE COMMUNITIESES 3875 02:59:00,880 --> 02:59:04,040 WE DON'T WANT TO DISADVANTAGE 3876 02:59:04,040 --> 02:59:07,040 AND THAT HAS TO BE AN IMPORTANT 3877 02:59:07,040 --> 02:59:08,640 PART OF OPEN SCIENCE AND RIGOR 3878 02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:09,040 OF SCIENCE. 3879 02:59:09,040 --> 02:59:10,200 >> MARCUS. 3880 02:59:10,200 --> 02:59:11,160 >> IT'S A GREAT POINT. 3881 02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:12,280 ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO 3882 02:59:12,280 --> 02:59:15,200 WITH THE STRUCTURE WE HAVE IS TO 3883 02:59:15,200 --> 02:59:17,240 CREATE THESE COMMUNITIES IN 3884 02:59:17,240 --> 02:59:18,320 DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SYSTEM. 3885 02:59:18,320 --> 02:59:19,600 RESEARCHERS THEMSELVES AND 3886 02:59:19,600 --> 02:59:20,720 SEEING MANAGEMENT OF 3887 02:59:20,720 --> 02:59:21,480 INSTITUTIONS SO THERE'S 3888 02:59:21,480 --> 02:59:24,560 CHAMPIONS WIN THE DIFFERENT 3889 02:59:24,560 --> 02:59:25,960 ELEMENTS OF THE SYSTEM AND 3890 02:59:25,960 --> 02:59:28,240 FUNDERS AND PUBLISHERS AND HAVE 3891 02:59:28,240 --> 02:59:29,680 A RESIDENTIAL RETREAT FOR 3892 02:59:29,680 --> 02:59:32,600 NETWORKS AND RETREAT FOR OUR 3893 02:59:32,600 --> 02:59:33,560 INSTITUTIONAL LEAD AND COME 3894 02:59:33,560 --> 02:59:35,200 TOGETHER AND SHARE EXPERIENCES 3895 02:59:35,200 --> 02:59:38,040 AND DECIDE ON NEXT STEPS. 3896 02:59:38,040 --> 02:59:46,280 THE U.K. HAS A NATURAL ADVANTAGE 3897 02:59:46,280 --> 02:59:48,760 AND IT'S THAT KIND OF CREATION 3898 02:59:48,760 --> 02:59:49,440 OF COMMUNITIES INCLUDING 3899 02:59:49,440 --> 02:59:50,320 INTERNATIONAL THAT THINK WILL BE 3900 02:59:50,320 --> 02:59:57,240 KEY. 3901 02:59:57,240 --> 03:00:01,320 THIS QUESTION IS TO OUR EUROPEAN 3902 03:00:01,320 --> 03:00:03,200 PARTNERS HERE WHICH IS MANY 3903 03:00:03,200 --> 03:00:05,800 EUROPEANS ARE HERE AND IF YOU 3904 03:00:05,800 --> 03:00:10,360 LOOK AT SYSTEMS OF CHANGE AND MY 3905 03:00:10,360 --> 03:00:12,840 IMPRESSION IS THE EUROPEAN 3906 03:00:12,840 --> 03:00:15,440 MODELS HAVE MOVED FASTER AND 3907 03:00:15,440 --> 03:00:18,280 MORE EFFECTIVELY. 3908 03:00:18,280 --> 03:00:21,840 WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE U.K. AND 3909 03:00:21,840 --> 03:00:24,080 REST OF EUROPE THAT HAS ENABLED 3910 03:00:24,080 --> 03:00:28,960 CHANGE TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY 3911 03:00:28,960 --> 03:00:33,680 COMPARED TO THE U.S. WHERE WE 3912 03:00:33,680 --> 03:00:35,200 SEEM TO BE SORT OF STUCK. 3913 03:00:35,200 --> 03:00:36,040 >> WHO WANTS TO JUMP ON THAT 3914 03:00:36,040 --> 03:00:39,720 ONE? 3915 03:00:39,720 --> 03:00:50,280 >> WE'RE MESSED UP IN MANY WAYS. 3916 03:00:51,560 --> 03:00:54,360 EVERYONES MESSED UP IN THEIR OWN 3917 03:00:54,360 --> 03:00:54,600 WAY. 3918 03:00:54,600 --> 03:00:56,720 THE U.K. HAS NATURAL ADVANTAGES 3919 03:00:56,720 --> 03:00:59,160 AND MANY PRINCIPLES BROADLY 3920 03:00:59,160 --> 03:00:59,720 APPLY. 3921 03:00:59,720 --> 03:01:01,960 THE U.K. AS A RESEARCH ENTITY IF 3922 03:01:01,960 --> 03:01:03,960 YOU LIKE PUNCHES ABOVE ITS 3923 03:01:03,960 --> 03:01:07,280 WEIGHT AS A RELATIVELY SMALL 3924 03:01:07,280 --> 03:01:09,240 COMPANY WITH A GLOBAL FOOTPRINT 3925 03:01:09,240 --> 03:01:10,880 IN TERMS OF IT'S RESEARCH AND 3926 03:01:10,880 --> 03:01:13,400 BIG ENOUGH TO MATTER AND 3927 03:01:13,400 --> 03:01:14,680 INTERCONNECTED ENOUGH BECAUSE WE 3928 03:01:14,680 --> 03:01:18,080 HAVE SOMETHING LIKE UKRI THAT 3929 03:01:18,080 --> 03:01:19,200 CUTS ACROSS AND HUMANITY AND 3930 03:01:19,200 --> 03:01:20,560 SOCIAL SCIENCE. 3931 03:01:20,560 --> 03:01:25,680 WE HAVE A RELATIVELY COMPACT 3932 03:01:25,680 --> 03:01:28,600 SYSTEM BOTH PHYSICALLY AND IN 3933 03:01:28,600 --> 03:01:30,280 TERMS OF STRUCTURE AND AT THE 3934 03:01:30,280 --> 03:01:32,080 EUROPEAN LEVEL YOU HAVE EUROPEAN 3935 03:01:32,080 --> 03:01:34,320 FUNDING AGENCIES THROUGH THE 3936 03:01:34,320 --> 03:01:36,480 EUROPEAN UNION FOR EXAMPLE THE 3937 03:01:36,480 --> 03:01:38,880 HORIZON 2020 PROGRAM MANDATES 3938 03:01:38,880 --> 03:01:39,960 OPEN RESEARCH. 3939 03:01:39,960 --> 03:01:41,120 SOME OF THAT CONNECTIVITY WAS 3940 03:01:41,120 --> 03:01:43,320 ALREADY IN PLACE AND WE WERE 3941 03:01:43,320 --> 03:01:45,360 ABLE TO HARNESS AND CAPTURE 3942 03:01:45,360 --> 03:01:45,960 THAT. 3943 03:01:45,960 --> 03:01:47,280 THERE'S ALSO A CULTURAL 3944 03:01:47,280 --> 03:01:49,800 DIFFERENCE POSSIBLY AND THIS IS 3945 03:01:49,800 --> 03:01:51,960 ME FREE STYLING MORE. 3946 03:01:51,960 --> 03:01:54,080 THE U.S. IS A MORE 3947 03:01:54,080 --> 03:01:56,000 INDIVIDUALISTIC CULTURE. 3948 03:01:56,000 --> 03:02:01,640 I THINK THAT'S TRUE AT AN 3949 03:02:01,640 --> 03:02:05,160 INSTITUTIONAL LEVEL. 3950 03:02:05,160 --> 03:02:06,280 AND THESE ARE QUITE 3951 03:02:06,280 --> 03:02:07,760 COLLABORATIVE APPROACHES WHERE 3952 03:02:07,760 --> 03:02:09,040 WE'RE SHARING KNOWLEDGE AND 3953 03:02:09,040 --> 03:02:10,360 LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER AND 3954 03:02:10,360 --> 03:02:12,200 PUTTING COMPETITION TO ONE SIDE, 3955 03:02:12,200 --> 03:02:15,360 IF YOU LIKE IN CONTEXT WHERE THE 3956 03:02:15,360 --> 03:02:16,600 COMPETITION DOESN'T HELP 3957 03:02:16,600 --> 03:02:16,800 ANYBODY. 3958 03:02:16,800 --> 03:02:17,560 ACTUALLY IT'S BENEFICIAL TO 3959 03:02:17,560 --> 03:02:19,600 EVERYBODY TO WORK IN THAT 3960 03:02:19,600 --> 03:02:21,040 COLLABORATIVE WAY IN AREAS THAT 3961 03:02:21,040 --> 03:02:24,360 ARE NOT ZERO SUM, IF YOU LIKE. 3962 03:02:24,360 --> 03:02:25,000 MAYBE THERE'S A CULTURAL 3963 03:02:25,000 --> 03:02:27,880 DIFFERENCE THERE AS WELL. 3964 03:02:27,880 --> 03:02:28,480 >> I THINK YOUR GRAD STUDENTS 3965 03:02:28,480 --> 03:02:35,760 ARE FINE. 3966 03:02:35,760 --> 03:02:38,120 MAYBE YOU JUST NEED TO EMPOWER 3967 03:02:38,120 --> 03:02:45,840 THE GRAT STUDENTS AND UCR. 3968 03:02:45,840 --> 03:02:50,480 >> THE AND THERE'S A DIFFERENT 3969 03:02:50,480 --> 03:02:52,480 SET OF FUNDERS HAVING DIFFERENT 3970 03:02:52,480 --> 03:02:54,840 GOALS AND NEEDS AND THEN HAVING 3971 03:02:54,840 --> 03:02:55,760 TO TRY TO ORGANIZE AND 3972 03:02:55,760 --> 03:02:56,040 COORDINATE. 3973 03:02:56,040 --> 03:02:56,880 THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE BUT WE 3974 03:02:56,880 --> 03:03:04,480 ARE ONLY ONE FUNDER. 3975 03:03:04,480 --> 03:03:09,240 THAT MEANS COLLABORATING ACROSS 3976 03:03:09,240 --> 03:03:11,960 ENTITIES INCLUDING MANY MARYROSE 3977 03:03:11,960 --> 03:03:13,600 LISTED AND WORK WITH NATIONAL 3978 03:03:13,600 --> 03:03:14,960 ACADEMIES AND LEARNED SOCIETIES 3979 03:03:14,960 --> 03:03:17,200 WHO HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT 3980 03:03:17,200 --> 03:03:18,280 OF A LOT OF THIS WORK AS WELL 3981 03:03:18,280 --> 03:03:19,280 WITHIN THE U.K. 3982 03:03:19,280 --> 03:03:21,400 THERE'S THINGS TO LEARN AND 3983 03:03:21,400 --> 03:03:22,320 THINGS TO SHARE ON BOTH SIDES 3984 03:03:22,320 --> 03:03:27,200 ACTUALLY. 3985 03:03:27,200 --> 03:03:29,120 ON THAT NOTE WE'RE GOING OVER 3986 03:03:29,120 --> 03:03:29,320 HERE. 3987 03:03:29,320 --> 03:03:32,000 >> I'M JENNY HIMEBERG AND THE 3988 03:03:32,000 --> 03:03:35,280 WORK AT THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF 3989 03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:38,280 SCIENCE, ENGINEERING AND 3990 03:03:38,280 --> 03:03:38,880 MEDICINE. 3991 03:03:38,880 --> 03:03:41,320 I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE 3992 03:03:41,320 --> 03:03:43,800 COMMENT ABOUT RIGOR AS SOMETHING 3993 03:03:43,800 --> 03:03:52,560 THAT COULD BE OPINION-BASED I 3994 03:03:52,560 --> 03:03:57,840 WANTED US TO THINK MORE OF 3995 03:03:57,840 --> 03:03:59,160 QUANTITATIVE RIGOR AND DATA IS 3996 03:03:59,160 --> 03:04:00,360 AVAILABLE AND THERE'S LOTS OF 3997 03:04:00,360 --> 03:04:02,040 PEOPLE THAT TALKED ABOUT OPEN 3998 03:04:02,040 --> 03:04:03,960 DATA BEING AN INDICATOR OF 3999 03:04:03,960 --> 03:04:04,160 RIGOR. 4000 03:04:04,160 --> 03:04:07,120 ANOTHER MIGHT BE STATISTICAL 4001 03:04:07,120 --> 03:04:10,320 CHECKS FROM THE OUTPUT OR 4002 03:04:10,320 --> 03:04:11,280 VERIFICATION OR VALIDATION OF 4003 03:04:11,280 --> 03:04:12,360 THE CODE. 4004 03:04:12,360 --> 03:04:14,760 ALL THESE THINGS COULD BE 4005 03:04:14,760 --> 03:04:17,760 INCLUDED AND I'M NOT THE FIRST 4006 03:04:17,760 --> 03:04:19,320 PERSON TO SUGGEST THIS AS 4007 03:04:19,320 --> 03:04:20,200 ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND AUTHORS OF 4008 03:04:20,200 --> 03:04:20,400 PAPER. 4009 03:04:20,400 --> 03:04:22,320 YOU HAVE A PAPER AND YOU KNOW 4010 03:04:22,320 --> 03:04:23,200 WHO VALIDATED THE CODE. 4011 03:04:23,200 --> 03:04:30,840 YOU KNOW WHO MANAGED THE DATA 4012 03:04:30,840 --> 03:04:32,400 WHO HAD REPRODUCIBILITY OF THE 4013 03:04:32,400 --> 03:04:38,320 WHOLE SET. 4014 03:04:38,320 --> 03:04:40,680 BUT IT ALSO GETS TO WORK LOAD. 4015 03:04:40,680 --> 03:04:42,840 WHAT'S THE ADDITIONAL WORK LOAD 4016 03:04:42,840 --> 03:04:46,280 OF HAVING ALL OF THOSE PROCESSES 4017 03:04:46,280 --> 03:04:51,720 DONE FOR THE PAPERS? 4018 03:04:51,720 --> 03:04:52,440 TWO POINTS. 4019 03:04:52,440 --> 03:04:54,920 HOW CAN WE START MOVING FROM 4020 03:04:54,920 --> 03:05:04,640 TALKING ABOUT RIGOR AS AN 4021 03:05:04,640 --> 03:05:06,320 ESOTERIC GOAL AS INDICATORS OF 4022 03:05:06,320 --> 03:05:09,240 OUR PRODUCTS AND DOES ANYONE 4023 03:05:09,240 --> 03:05:10,960 KNOW -- HAS ANYONE DONE AN 4024 03:05:10,960 --> 03:05:12,040 EXPERIMENT OR ANALYSIS OF THE 4025 03:05:12,040 --> 03:05:13,520 EXTRA WORK LOAD FOR THE 4026 03:05:13,520 --> 03:05:16,680 ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT HAVE 4027 03:05:16,680 --> 03:05:16,880 RIGOR? 4028 03:05:16,880 --> 03:05:19,880 >> CAN WE GO DO NAOMI FIRST AND 4029 03:05:19,880 --> 03:05:23,320 IF YOU ANYTHING TO ADD. 4030 03:05:23,320 --> 03:05:29,960 >> I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMMENT. 4031 03:05:29,960 --> 03:05:32,240 >> I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 4032 03:05:32,240 --> 03:05:37,040 TO COME UP WITH SOME CRITERIA 4033 03:05:37,040 --> 03:05:42,280 THAT WE CAN MEASURE AND SEE THAT 4034 03:05:42,280 --> 03:05:46,280 ARE IN SOME WAYS SOMEWHAT 4035 03:05:46,280 --> 03:05:48,440 OBJECTIVE. 4036 03:05:48,440 --> 03:05:54,080 I THINK GOING BACK TO EARLIER 4037 03:05:54,080 --> 03:05:57,040 MEANT AND ONE THING TO BEAR IN 4038 03:05:57,040 --> 03:05:59,760 MIND IN THIS COMMUNITY IS A LOT 4039 03:05:59,760 --> 03:06:06,120 OF PEOPLE FEEL MY WAY HAS GOTTEN 4040 03:06:06,120 --> 03:06:07,840 ME WHERE I GOT AND MY WAY IS 4041 03:06:07,840 --> 03:06:11,640 WORKING FOR ME. 4042 03:06:11,640 --> 03:06:14,320 WHY SHOULD I CHANGE? 4043 03:06:14,320 --> 03:06:19,760 I THINK THAT IMPLIES SOME 4044 03:06:19,760 --> 03:06:20,000 ANXIETY. 4045 03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:26,280 MAYBE IT WON'T WORK FOR ME AS 4046 03:06:26,280 --> 03:06:33,480 WELL AS ANY MORE. 4047 03:06:33,480 --> 03:06:36,040 >> WE HAVE SOPHIA AND MARCUS AND 4048 03:06:36,040 --> 03:06:44,240 THEN MARYROSE. 4049 03:06:44,240 --> 03:06:48,040 >> AND THERE WAS WORKLOAD AND 4050 03:06:48,040 --> 03:06:48,440 REPRODUCIBILITY. 4051 03:06:48,440 --> 03:06:54,680 I THINK IT'S CHRIS -- CRAZY TO 4052 03:06:54,680 --> 03:06:58,360 ME IT SHOULD BE DONE BY SOMEONE 4053 03:06:58,360 --> 03:06:59,720 EMPLOYED AT THE JOURNAL FOR 4054 03:06:59,720 --> 03:07:01,920 CHECKING REPRODUCIBILITY. 4055 03:07:01,920 --> 03:07:04,120 THERE'S EXAMPLES IN ECONOMICS 4056 03:07:04,120 --> 03:07:06,320 AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW 4057 03:07:06,320 --> 03:07:08,160 THAT'S NOT THE CASE ALL JOURNALS 4058 03:07:08,160 --> 03:07:10,440 DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S JUST 4059 03:07:10,440 --> 03:07:11,840 QUALITY CONTROL. 4060 03:07:11,840 --> 03:07:17,360 I THINK A LOT OF THIS TECHNICAL 4061 03:07:17,360 --> 03:07:19,320 WORK LOAD SHOULD BE DONE BY 4062 03:07:19,320 --> 03:07:19,600 JOURNALS. 4063 03:07:19,600 --> 03:07:21,240 WHY ARE WE PAYING THEM? 4064 03:07:21,240 --> 03:07:27,160 >> GOOD QUESTIONS. 4065 03:07:27,160 --> 03:07:37,720 THERE'S ALSO SOME TRANSPARENCY 4066 03:07:52,600 --> 03:07:58,240 ALLOWING FOR AND WE CAN ALLOW 4067 03:07:58,240 --> 03:07:59,720 FOR QUALITY ASSURANCE OVERLAYS 4068 03:07:59,720 --> 03:08:01,880 AND THEN THINK OF SPOT-CHECKS ON 4069 03:08:01,880 --> 03:08:03,040 PUBLICATIONS AND OUTPUTS AS A 4070 03:08:03,040 --> 03:08:04,000 CHECK OF THE SYSTEM RATHER THAN 4071 03:08:04,000 --> 03:08:06,320 CHECKING THE THING IN ITSELF. 4072 03:08:06,320 --> 03:08:08,080 IT'S THE PROCESS IN THE SYSTEM I 4073 03:08:08,080 --> 03:08:11,920 THINK WE NEED TO GET RIGHT. 4074 03:08:11,920 --> 03:08:16,160 THE MEANS WE HAVE TO SHIFT TO 4075 03:08:16,160 --> 03:08:17,360 WHAT WOULD BE QUANTIFIED ABOUT 4076 03:08:17,360 --> 03:08:23,000 THE SYSTEM AND PROCESS. 4077 03:08:23,000 --> 03:08:25,240 IT'S IMPORTANT TO QUANTIFY THE 4078 03:08:25,240 --> 03:08:26,640 RESOURCES BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING 4079 03:08:26,640 --> 03:08:28,760 TO RESOURCE APPROPRIATELY THE 4080 03:08:28,760 --> 03:08:31,880 NEW BEHAVIORS WE NEED TO KNOW 4081 03:08:31,880 --> 03:08:37,600 HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO COST. 4082 03:08:37,600 --> 03:08:38,360 IT'S INCUMBENT ON FUNDERS SO 4083 03:08:38,360 --> 03:08:39,560 IT'S IMPORTANT WE CAPTURE THE 4084 03:08:39,560 --> 03:08:41,320 DATA AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO 4085 03:08:41,320 --> 03:08:42,120 COST. 4086 03:08:42,120 --> 03:08:42,760 >> MARCUS? 4087 03:08:42,760 --> 03:08:46,320 >> THAT REMINDS ME OF ONE THING 4088 03:08:46,320 --> 03:08:52,160 WORTH MENTIONING. 4089 03:08:52,160 --> 03:08:54,360 THE STATISTICIAN TOOK THIS TO 4090 03:08:54,360 --> 03:08:58,240 THE INDUSTRY AND TRANSFORMED THE 4091 03:08:58,240 --> 03:09:00,880 AUTO INDUSTRY AND QUALITY 4092 03:09:00,880 --> 03:09:04,720 CONTROL DURING THE PROCESS IS 4093 03:09:04,720 --> 03:09:09,680 INTUITIVE AND YOU ALSO IMPROVE 4094 03:09:09,680 --> 03:09:10,280 PRODUCTIVITY. 4095 03:09:10,280 --> 03:09:12,840 THAT LED TO THE JAPANESE 4096 03:09:12,840 --> 03:09:13,880 AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY LEAPING 4097 03:09:13,880 --> 03:09:14,720 AHEAD AND NOW EVERY INDUSTRY 4098 03:09:14,720 --> 03:09:15,920 USING THE SAME APPROACH. 4099 03:09:15,920 --> 03:09:20,120 WE CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT HOW THAT 4100 03:09:20,120 --> 03:09:23,080 INVEST WILL PAY BACK AND THE 4101 03:09:23,080 --> 03:09:26,840 EFFICIENCY WITH WHICH WE WORK. 4102 03:09:26,840 --> 03:09:28,640 >> AND CHALLENGE US TO THINK 4103 03:09:28,640 --> 03:09:31,440 ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND EFFICACY 4104 03:09:31,440 --> 03:09:33,280 AND ALSO DISPLACING. 4105 03:09:33,280 --> 03:09:35,320 MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT DISPLACING 4106 03:09:35,320 --> 03:09:36,840 MORE WORK SOME PLACE ELSE WITHIN 4107 03:09:36,840 --> 03:09:39,720 THE SYSTEM MOVING FORWARD. 4108 03:09:39,720 --> 03:09:39,920 STEVE. 4109 03:09:39,920 --> 03:09:41,480 >> MARCUS JUST MADE THE POINT I 4110 03:09:41,480 --> 03:09:42,960 WAS GOING TO MAKE. 4111 03:09:42,960 --> 03:09:44,880 THERE'S A COST TO THE CURRENT 4112 03:09:44,880 --> 03:09:46,080 SYSTEM AND WE'RE PAYING IT. 4113 03:09:46,080 --> 03:09:47,720 WE'RE JUST NOT ALWAYS AWARE OF 4114 03:09:47,720 --> 03:09:48,160 IT. 4115 03:09:48,160 --> 03:09:49,520 I AGREE WITH THAT. 4116 03:09:49,520 --> 03:09:50,680 I'LL MAKE TWO QUICK COMMENTS BUT 4117 03:09:50,680 --> 03:09:52,520 THEN I HAVE A QUESTION. 4118 03:09:52,520 --> 03:09:54,720 ONE IS THE ISSUE ON RIGOR AND 4119 03:09:54,720 --> 03:09:55,360 QUANTIFYING IT. 4120 03:09:55,360 --> 03:09:58,240 WITHOUT GIVING A LECTURE I'LL 4121 03:09:58,240 --> 03:09:59,360 JUST SAY ASSESSING RIGOR IS HARD 4122 03:09:59,360 --> 03:10:01,800 AND THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT. 4123 03:10:01,800 --> 03:10:05,480 THERE'S NO QUANTITATIVE MEASURE. 4124 03:10:05,480 --> 03:10:10,040 I'LL SAY THAT. 4125 03:10:10,040 --> 03:10:11,240 DOES THE QUESTION FIT THE DESIGN 4126 03:10:11,240 --> 03:10:16,480 OR THE OUTCOME MEASURE ANSWER 4127 03:10:16,480 --> 03:10:18,920 THE QUESTION. 4128 03:10:18,920 --> 03:10:20,680 IF YOU DOUBLE THE SAMPLE SIZE 4129 03:10:20,680 --> 03:10:26,200 AND ALL STUDIES HAVE 80% POWER. 4130 03:10:26,200 --> 03:10:28,200 THE PROBLEM WITH RIGOR IS THAT 4131 03:10:28,200 --> 03:10:35,400 IT IS HARD AND IT IS SUBJECTIVE. 4132 03:10:35,400 --> 03:10:38,200 THAT IS TRUE AND IT'S AN EASIER 4133 03:10:38,200 --> 03:10:39,240 TO MEASURE PROCESS MEASURES AND 4134 03:10:39,240 --> 03:10:46,200 ARGUABLY THE ONLY THING WE CAN 4135 03:10:48,760 --> 03:10:48,880 DO. 4136 03:10:48,880 --> 03:10:51,680 WE STILL HAVE RANDOMIZED CONTROL 4137 03:10:51,680 --> 03:10:52,800 TRIALS AND WE HAVE 25 SCORECARDS 4138 03:10:52,800 --> 03:10:57,240 AND DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS. 4139 03:10:57,240 --> 03:11:02,200 WE KNOW WHAT MAKES A GOOD RCT 4140 03:11:02,200 --> 03:11:03,840 BUT THERE'S NO SYNTHETIC 4141 03:11:03,840 --> 03:11:04,080 MEASURE. 4142 03:11:04,080 --> 03:11:08,120 HERE'S THE QUESTION. 4143 03:11:08,120 --> 03:11:13,880 THIS IS SORT OF TO NAOMI AND 4144 03:11:13,880 --> 03:11:14,160 MARYROSE. 4145 03:11:14,160 --> 03:11:17,320 WE HAVE A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED 4146 03:11:17,320 --> 03:11:19,960 SYSTEM FOR RESEARCH INTEGRATE OF 4147 03:11:19,960 --> 03:11:24,800 MONITORING IN THE U.S. AND THERE 4148 03:11:24,800 --> 03:11:29,320 ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU RESEARCH 4149 03:11:29,320 --> 03:11:33,080 INTEGRITY OFFICERS AND WE DON'T 4150 03:11:33,080 --> 03:11:35,240 ARE THE BROADER CONCEPTION OF 4151 03:11:35,240 --> 03:11:38,960 RESEARCH INTEGRAITY AND THERE'S 4152 03:11:38,960 --> 03:11:41,320 REPORTS THIS IDEA RESEARCH 4153 03:11:41,320 --> 03:11:45,080 INTEGRITY IS MEASURED IN THESE 4154 03:11:45,080 --> 03:11:46,200 MORE COMPLEX WAYS AND NEEDS 4155 03:11:46,200 --> 03:11:46,680 SUPPORT STRUCTURE. 4156 03:11:46,680 --> 03:11:51,440 THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU AND 4157 03:11:51,440 --> 03:11:55,520 FOR THE PANEL, HOW DID YOUR 4158 03:11:55,520 --> 03:12:01,480 OFFICE OF RESEARCHER INTEGRITY 4159 03:12:01,480 --> 03:12:04,320 THE TRADITIONAL ROLE GET 4160 03:12:04,320 --> 03:12:09,360 EXPANDED INTO THIS BROADER 4161 03:12:09,360 --> 03:12:12,600 RESOURCE PROVIDING ENTITY AND 4162 03:12:12,600 --> 03:12:15,400 WHAT'S THE VALUE PROPOSITION TO 4163 03:12:15,400 --> 03:12:16,520 THE INSTITUTION AND HOW MANY 4164 03:12:16,520 --> 03:12:17,320 INSTITUTIONS IN THE U.S. ARE 4165 03:12:17,320 --> 03:12:19,360 TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT 4166 03:12:19,360 --> 03:12:19,600 STRUCTURE? 4167 03:12:19,600 --> 03:12:21,200 WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING A SURVEY 4168 03:12:21,200 --> 03:12:23,160 OF ALL CTSA HOLDING INSTITUTIONS 4169 03:12:23,160 --> 03:12:26,240 TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING 4170 03:12:26,240 --> 03:12:30,600 BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE CTSA'S 4171 03:12:30,600 --> 03:12:32,400 THAT FUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR 4172 03:12:32,400 --> 03:12:33,360 CLINICAL RESEARCH. 4173 03:12:33,360 --> 03:12:34,880 THE P.I.s DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS 4174 03:12:34,880 --> 03:12:40,360 IS GOING ON IN THEIR OWN 4175 03:12:40,360 --> 03:12:41,320 INSTITUTIONS. 4176 03:12:41,320 --> 03:12:48,040 THEY THEMSELVES DON'T KNOW WHO'S 4177 03:12:48,040 --> 03:12:51,880 DOING IT BUT DON'T KNOW WHOSE 4178 03:12:51,880 --> 03:12:53,280 HANDLING THIS AND THE QUESTIONS 4179 03:12:53,280 --> 03:13:01,800 ARE COUPLED SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR. 4180 03:13:01,800 --> 03:13:03,360 >> HOW DID WE MAKE THIS 4181 03:13:03,360 --> 03:13:04,160 TRANSITION ON MY TEAM? 4182 03:13:04,160 --> 03:13:06,240 IT'S WHERE I WANTED TO TAKE IT. 4183 03:13:06,240 --> 03:13:08,680 I DON'T HAVE A BETTER ANSWER 4184 03:13:08,680 --> 03:13:09,920 THAN THAT. 4185 03:13:09,920 --> 03:13:11,320 THE CHARGE TO US WAS FIGURE OUT 4186 03:13:11,320 --> 03:13:14,920 A WAY TO TRY TO PREVENT RESEARCH 4187 03:13:14,920 --> 03:13:16,760 MISCONDUCT AND THE ONLY ANSWER I 4188 03:13:16,760 --> 03:13:19,400 COULD COME UP WITH IS WE GOT TO 4189 03:13:19,400 --> 03:13:21,440 HAVE BETTER DATA MANAGEMENT AND 4190 03:13:21,440 --> 03:13:23,320 WE'VE GOT TO HAVE BETTER 4191 03:13:23,320 --> 03:13:33,840 PRACTICES IN THE LAB AND THE 4192 03:13:38,320 --> 03:13:41,200 OTHER BIG TRIGGER WAS NIH AND 4193 03:13:41,200 --> 03:13:43,960 NIH'S ADDICTION TO EVERY GRANT 4194 03:13:43,960 --> 03:13:47,040 PROPOSAL OF THE RIGOR 4195 03:13:47,040 --> 03:13:47,360 REQUIREMENTS. 4196 03:13:47,360 --> 03:13:49,440 AND SO THOSE RIGOR REQUIREMENTS 4197 03:13:49,440 --> 03:13:51,280 AGAIN THAT GAVE US THE 4198 03:13:51,280 --> 03:13:53,320 OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ENGAGE 4199 03:13:53,320 --> 03:13:57,240 WITH RESEARCHERS ON HOW DO YOU 4200 03:13:57,240 --> 03:14:02,720 ADDRESS THIS IN YOUR PARTICULAR 4201 03:14:02,720 --> 03:14:03,000 PRACTICE. 4202 03:14:03,000 --> 03:14:03,680 THERE ARE OTHER INSTITUTIONS 4203 03:14:03,680 --> 03:14:07,240 DOING THINGS SIMILAR TO WHAT 4204 03:14:07,240 --> 03:14:07,720 WE'RE DOING. 4205 03:14:07,720 --> 03:14:08,880 THERE AREN'T A LOT BUT SOME AND 4206 03:14:08,880 --> 03:14:10,560 DUKE IS ONE AND HARVARD IS ONE. 4207 03:14:10,560 --> 03:14:14,560 >> IN THE WAKE OF SCANDAL. 4208 03:14:14,560 --> 03:14:15,720 >> YES. 4209 03:14:15,720 --> 03:14:16,600 AND SOMETIMES THESE KINDS OF 4210 03:14:16,600 --> 03:14:22,160 THINGS HAPPEN IN RESPONSE TO A 4211 03:14:22,160 --> 03:14:29,720 HUGE PROBLEM. 4212 03:14:29,720 --> 03:14:32,000 WE DON'T THINK IT'S THE CASE 4213 03:14:32,000 --> 03:14:33,000 EVERY P.I. KNOWS WHO THEIR 4214 03:14:33,000 --> 03:14:38,280 RESEARCH INTEGRATE OFFICE IS BUT 4215 03:14:38,280 --> 03:14:46,240 I THINK SHY, AREN'T YOU THE 4216 03:14:46,240 --> 03:14:47,360 RESEARCH QUALITY OFFICER OR 4217 03:14:47,360 --> 03:14:50,200 SOMETHING LIKE THAT? 4218 03:14:50,200 --> 03:14:51,920 >> HE SAID TROUBLE MAKER. 4219 03:14:51,920 --> 03:14:52,480 >> I THINK IT'S DIRECTOR OF 4220 03:14:52,480 --> 03:15:02,800 RESEARCH QUALITY. 4221 03:15:21,080 --> 03:15:25,920 >> IT'S PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE 4222 03:15:25,920 --> 03:15:27,920 RESEARCH INTEGRITY. 4223 03:15:27,920 --> 03:15:31,600 >> I GOT A POSITION FUNDED ON MY 4224 03:15:31,600 --> 03:15:31,840 TEAM. 4225 03:15:31,840 --> 03:15:34,560 OUR -- PEOPLE WOULD DO THE WORK 4226 03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:35,280 THAT WE DO WE'RE ALL UNDER 4227 03:15:35,280 --> 03:15:40,920 FUNDED. 4228 03:15:40,920 --> 03:15:42,880 THERE IS A COST NOT JUST A COST 4229 03:15:42,880 --> 03:15:48,000 TO THE INDIVIDUAL RESEARCHER BUT 4230 03:15:48,000 --> 03:15:52,960 THE INSTITUTION. 4231 03:15:52,960 --> 03:15:54,720 >> THE TITLE WE SULTH IS 4232 03:15:54,720 --> 03:15:55,920 ACADEMIC LEAD FOR RESEARCH 4233 03:15:55,920 --> 03:15:56,400 IMPROVEMENT. 4234 03:15:56,400 --> 03:15:57,400 IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE 4235 03:15:57,400 --> 03:15:58,840 DESCRIBING AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO 4236 03:15:58,840 --> 03:16:02,200 HAVE THAT ACADEMIC VOICE AS PART 4237 03:16:02,200 --> 03:16:04,440 OF THIS AS WELL TO BRING IN THE 4238 03:16:04,440 --> 03:16:06,560 LIBRARTEAMS AND MAKE IT CLEAR 4239 03:16:06,560 --> 03:16:07,640 THIS IS FUNDAMENTALLY FOR 4240 03:16:07,640 --> 03:16:09,000 RESEARCHERS AND WITH THE VOICE 4241 03:16:09,000 --> 03:16:10,200 OF RESEARCHERS AS PART. 4242 03:16:10,200 --> 03:16:11,320 >> FANTASTIC POINT. 4243 03:16:11,320 --> 03:16:11,600 THANK YOU. 4244 03:16:11,600 --> 03:16:13,200 >> WE'RE SEEING SIMILAR THINGS 4245 03:16:13,200 --> 03:16:18,120 IN THE U.K. WITH THE VARIOUS 4246 03:16:18,120 --> 03:16:18,320 ROLES. 4247 03:16:18,320 --> 03:16:21,720 SOME INSTITUTIONS SET UP 4248 03:16:21,720 --> 03:16:24,280 DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH CULTURE OR 4249 03:16:24,280 --> 03:16:25,640 A PVV FOR CULTURE. 4250 03:16:25,640 --> 03:16:27,640 OTHERS ARE EXTENDING THE WORK 4251 03:16:27,640 --> 03:16:30,200 AROUND SECURITY TO BRING IN 4252 03:16:30,200 --> 03:16:35,760 ASPECTS OF INTEGRITY OR BULLYING 4253 03:16:35,760 --> 03:16:37,760 AND HARASSMENT. 4254 03:16:37,760 --> 03:16:38,640 THERE'S INTEGRAL TIES WITH 4255 03:16:38,640 --> 03:16:40,880 THINKING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM 4256 03:16:40,880 --> 03:16:42,200 A STRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE AND OVER 4257 03:16:42,200 --> 03:16:42,440 TO YOU. 4258 03:16:42,440 --> 03:16:49,360 WE HAVE OUR LAST TWO AFTER THAT. 4259 03:16:49,360 --> 03:16:51,640 >> IF SOMEONE'S THINKING OF 4260 03:16:51,640 --> 03:16:54,240 CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR FOR 4261 03:16:54,240 --> 03:16:56,160 SCIENTISTS, I THINK ABOUT A 4262 03:16:56,160 --> 03:16:58,240 QUOTE WHO WAS AN ATMOSPHERE 4263 03:16:58,240 --> 03:17:02,000 CHEMIST WHO WORKED ON THE OZONE 4264 03:17:02,000 --> 03:17:03,680 LAYER AND ONE OF THE FEW 4265 03:17:03,680 --> 03:17:04,840 SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE TO CREATE A 4266 03:17:04,840 --> 03:17:05,920 SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE RESPONDED 4267 03:17:05,920 --> 03:17:09,320 TO AN ECOLOGICAL DISASTER WITH 4268 03:17:09,320 --> 03:17:10,560 SOME MEASURE OF SUCCESS. 4269 03:17:10,560 --> 03:17:14,040 SHE SAID THE REASON WHY THE 4270 03:17:14,040 --> 03:17:15,600 EFFORTS TO MAKE THAT CHANGE 4271 03:17:15,600 --> 03:17:16,640 WORKED WERE THAT IT WAS 4272 03:17:16,640 --> 03:17:24,640 SOMETHING THAT WAS PERCEPTABLE 4273 03:17:24,640 --> 03:17:29,240 AND SOMETHING TO REACH FOR AND 4274 03:17:29,240 --> 03:17:29,400 DO. 4275 03:17:29,400 --> 03:17:30,960 PIGGYBACKING OFF THE COMMENTS 4276 03:17:30,960 --> 03:17:32,840 HOW HARD RESEARCH RIGOR IS AND 4277 03:17:32,840 --> 03:17:33,800 REFLECTING ON THE LAST COUPLE 4278 03:17:33,800 --> 03:17:34,880 DAYS DO YOU THINK WE'RE CLOSER 4279 03:17:34,880 --> 03:17:37,920 TO MAKING THIS IDEA OF RESEARCH 4280 03:17:37,920 --> 03:17:40,080 RIGOR SOMETHING THAT SCIENTISTS 4281 03:17:40,080 --> 03:17:41,680 COULD DEFINITELY PERCEIVE? 4282 03:17:41,680 --> 03:17:46,600 SOMETHING THEY CAN FEEL PERSONAL 4283 03:17:46,600 --> 03:17:57,160 ABOUT AND CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK 4284 03:17:58,240 --> 03:18:01,840 ABOUT THE THREE WORDS AND HOW 4285 03:18:01,840 --> 03:18:02,440 THEY'VE STIMULATED YOUR OWN 4286 03:18:02,440 --> 03:18:03,880 EFFORT AND LOOK AT THE MINIMUM 4287 03:18:03,880 --> 03:18:05,280 SET OF THINGS WE CAN DO TOGETHER 4288 03:18:05,280 --> 03:18:06,200 TO GET US START AND SAY THAT'S 4289 03:18:06,200 --> 03:18:11,320 GOOD. 4290 03:18:11,320 --> 03:18:13,320 CURIOUS FOR REFLECTIONS ON THAT 4291 03:18:13,320 --> 03:18:14,640 LISTENING THE PAST COUPLE DAYS. 4292 03:18:14,640 --> 03:18:18,200 >> IT SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER ONE 4293 03:18:18,200 --> 03:18:20,840 FOR THE WRAP-UP BUT MARYROSE HAS 4294 03:18:20,840 --> 03:18:21,520 A SOLUTION. 4295 03:18:21,520 --> 03:18:25,160 >> NO, LOW-HANGING FRUIT. 4296 03:18:25,160 --> 03:18:32,440 I'M A HUGE FAN OF RUBRICS. 4297 03:18:32,440 --> 03:18:35,880 THE TOP GUIDELINES AND LOOKING 4298 03:18:35,880 --> 03:18:36,880 AT IMPROVEMENT AND 4299 03:18:36,880 --> 03:18:38,200 ACCOUNTABILITY. 4300 03:18:38,200 --> 03:18:41,080 THE BEHAVIORS ARE LISTED IN 4301 03:18:41,080 --> 03:18:42,120 THEIR VARIOUS FORMS GETTING 4302 03:18:42,120 --> 03:18:43,160 BETTER. 4303 03:18:43,160 --> 03:18:45,200 VAIRS BEHAVIORS GETTING BETTER. 4304 03:18:45,200 --> 03:18:49,560 YOU CAN -- IT'S MOTIVATIONAL, 4305 03:18:49,560 --> 03:18:52,760 IT'S PRACTICAL AND YOU CAN MOVE 4306 03:18:52,760 --> 03:18:53,560 FORWARD. 4307 03:18:53,560 --> 03:18:59,800 I LOVE THAT RUBRIC TOP-GUIDELINE 4308 03:18:59,800 --> 03:19:05,640 MODEL. 4309 03:19:05,640 --> 03:19:07,960 >> IF YOU ASK SOMEBODY IF YOU'RE 4310 03:19:07,960 --> 03:19:09,000 A BETTER THAN AVERAGE DRIVER, 4311 03:19:09,000 --> 03:19:12,440 THEY ALL THINK THEY ARE. 4312 03:19:12,440 --> 03:19:14,760 NO ONE THINKS THEY'RE DOING 4313 03:19:14,760 --> 03:19:15,960 SLOPPY RESEARCH AND NEED TO 4314 03:19:15,960 --> 03:19:18,920 FRAME IT AS IMPROVEMENT. 4315 03:19:18,920 --> 03:19:24,400 HOW CAN WE BE EVEN BETTER OTHER 4316 03:19:24,400 --> 03:19:29,160 THAN YOU'VE ALL DONE A TERRIBLE 4317 03:19:29,160 --> 03:19:29,320 JOB. 4318 03:19:29,320 --> 03:19:30,200 MAKE IT POSITIVE. 4319 03:19:30,200 --> 03:19:34,200 >> I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, IS THAT 4320 03:19:34,200 --> 03:19:38,200 OKAY? 4321 03:19:38,200 --> 03:19:44,680 ONE IS BUILDING ON THE ROLE OF 4322 03:19:44,680 --> 03:19:45,760 EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE 4323 03:19:45,760 --> 03:19:53,320 I.O.s AND BUILDING THE RESEARCH 4324 03:19:53,320 --> 03:19:56,880 IMPROVE 4325 03:19:56,880 --> 03:19:58,400 IMPROVEMENT OFFICERS AND THAT'S 4326 03:19:58,400 --> 03:20:00,440 THE BALANCE BETWEEN TOP-DOWN AND 4327 03:20:00,440 --> 03:20:01,240 BOTTOM UP. 4328 03:20:01,240 --> 03:20:04,040 YOU HAVE A GRASS-ROOT LOCAL 4329 03:20:04,040 --> 03:20:05,160 NETWORK AND SOMEBODY IN THE 4330 03:20:05,160 --> 03:20:06,200 LEADERSHIP SEEMS TO BE AN 4331 03:20:06,200 --> 03:20:13,640 IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THAT. 4332 03:20:13,640 --> 03:20:14,840 IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT U.K. 4333 03:20:14,840 --> 03:20:18,400 INSTITUTIONS THAT ALLOWED YOU TO 4334 03:20:18,400 --> 03:20:22,200 HAPPEN OR HAS IT BEEN REP KATED 4335 03:20:22,200 --> 03:20:24,560 IN THE OTHER -- REPLICATED AND 4336 03:20:24,560 --> 03:20:26,160 IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT 4337 03:20:26,160 --> 03:20:28,000 PART OF HELIOS? 4338 03:20:28,000 --> 03:20:34,480 PEOPLE HAVE COMMITTED TO DO 4339 03:20:34,480 --> 03:20:38,520 SOMETHING? 4340 03:20:38,520 --> 03:20:41,360 IS THERE A PERSON WHO PLAYS THAT 4341 03:20:41,360 --> 03:20:44,160 KIND OF ROLE? 4342 03:20:44,160 --> 03:20:46,160 >> IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT'S 4343 03:20:46,160 --> 03:20:48,400 REPLICATED ACROSS NETWORKS, 4344 03:20:48,400 --> 03:20:50,120 THERE'S DIFFERENT STAGES OF 4345 03:20:50,120 --> 03:20:53,800 EVOLUTION BUT THE VAST MAJORITY 4346 03:20:53,800 --> 03:20:56,240 START WITH THE GRASSROOTS ENERGY 4347 03:20:56,240 --> 03:20:57,920 WHO WILL BE THE ADVOCATES OF 4348 03:20:57,920 --> 03:20:58,200 THAT LEVEL. 4349 03:20:58,200 --> 03:21:00,680 THERE'S PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OF 4350 03:21:00,680 --> 03:21:01,520 THE GRASSROOTS COMMUNITIES BUT 4351 03:21:01,520 --> 03:21:04,240 IF THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTED AND 4352 03:21:04,240 --> 03:21:04,880 AMPLIFIED BY PEOPLE FORTUNATE 4353 03:21:04,880 --> 03:21:07,200 ENOUGH TO BE IN POSITIONS WHERE 4354 03:21:07,200 --> 03:21:09,040 THEIR JOB DOESN'T DEPEND ON IT 4355 03:21:09,040 --> 03:21:11,160 ANYMORE IT'S NOT GOING TO GET AS 4356 03:21:11,160 --> 03:21:15,080 FAR AS AS IF WE HAVE THE 4357 03:21:15,080 --> 03:21:15,400 CONNECTIVITY. 4358 03:21:15,400 --> 03:21:16,640 I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING 4359 03:21:16,640 --> 03:21:19,320 UNIQUE ABOUT THE U.K. 4360 03:21:19,320 --> 03:21:21,040 THERE'S NO SECRETE SAUCE THERE. 4361 03:21:21,040 --> 03:21:23,920 ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S ABOUT 4362 03:21:23,920 --> 03:21:25,680 THINKING HAVING A CLEAR THEORY 4363 03:21:25,680 --> 03:21:27,000 OF CHANGE AND HOW TO GET WHERE 4364 03:21:27,000 --> 03:21:29,400 WE ARE TO WHERE YOU WANT TO BE. 4365 03:21:29,400 --> 03:21:30,120 WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 4366 03:21:30,120 --> 03:21:31,560 EVOLUTION VERSUS REVOLUTION. 4367 03:21:31,560 --> 03:21:34,560 I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF REVOLUTIONS 4368 03:21:34,560 --> 03:21:37,160 BECAUSE THEY END UP BEING 4369 03:21:37,160 --> 03:21:40,040 DESTRUCTIVE AND FACTIONAL AND A 4370 03:21:40,040 --> 03:21:45,000 PROBLEM WITH THE REFORM MOVEMENT 4371 03:21:45,000 --> 03:21:47,360 NARRATIVE IS PEOPLE BECOME WED 4372 03:21:47,360 --> 03:21:50,800 TO THE WAY OF DOING THINGS AND 4373 03:21:50,800 --> 03:21:52,680 SOME GOOD IDEAS MIGHT TURN OUT 4374 03:21:52,680 --> 03:21:54,920 NOT TO WORK AND HAVE UNINTENDED 4375 03:21:54,920 --> 03:21:56,520 CONSEQUENCES AND WE NEED TO KEEP 4376 03:21:56,520 --> 03:21:57,200 EACH OTHER HONEST IN TERMS OF 4377 03:21:57,200 --> 03:22:04,360 THAT. 4378 03:22:04,360 --> 03:22:05,880 THERE'S A POLITICAL SOCIETY IN 4379 03:22:05,880 --> 03:22:11,320 THE U.K. CALLED FABIANS AND THE 4380 03:22:11,320 --> 03:22:14,800 MODEL OF REFORM IN THE CONTEXT 4381 03:22:14,800 --> 03:22:16,760 OF LIBERAL DEMOCRACY IS YOU NEED 4382 03:22:16,760 --> 03:22:18,400 TO DRIP ADVICE INTO THE EARS OF 4383 03:22:18,400 --> 03:22:20,640 THOSE IN POSITION TO ENACT THAT 4384 03:22:20,640 --> 03:22:24,840 BUT IN THE OTHER EAR THEY NEED 4385 03:22:24,840 --> 03:22:27,880 TO HEAR THE CLAMORING AT THE 4386 03:22:27,880 --> 03:22:30,000 GATES AND YOU NEED BOTH AND 4387 03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:32,240 LINKING THE TOGETHER THE VOICE 4388 03:22:32,240 --> 03:22:34,200 OF THE GRASSROOTS COMMUNITY CAN 4389 03:22:34,200 --> 03:22:39,560 BE POWERFUL I THINK. 4390 03:22:39,560 --> 03:22:41,200 >> GOING BACK TO THE POINTS OF 4391 03:22:41,200 --> 03:22:42,360 INTERVENTIONS AND WHAT THOSE 4392 03:22:42,360 --> 03:22:42,960 MIGHT BE. 4393 03:22:42,960 --> 03:22:52,400 I CALL IT SHINY OBJECT SYNDROME. 4394 03:22:52,400 --> 03:22:54,120 ESPECIALLY AROUND CERTAIN POLICY 4395 03:22:54,120 --> 03:22:56,920 AREAS WHERE IT'S A NEW GUIDE BUT 4396 03:22:56,920 --> 03:22:58,160 NOT AN UNDERSTANDING OF WILL IT 4397 03:22:58,160 --> 03:23:02,200 WORK OR NOT AND THEN CALLING IT 4398 03:23:02,200 --> 03:23:03,560 REFORM OR REVOLUTION. 4399 03:23:03,560 --> 03:23:04,640 IT COULD BE TRAINING BUT IT'S 4400 03:23:04,640 --> 03:23:10,640 PROBABLY JUST A TRAINING. 4401 03:23:10,640 --> 03:23:12,200 THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING HOW 4402 03:23:12,200 --> 03:23:14,160 DO THOSE THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY. 4403 03:23:14,160 --> 03:23:19,320 WE'RE PICKING UP MALCOLM'S 4404 03:23:19,320 --> 03:23:23,000 POINTS FROM BEFORE AND I THINK 4405 03:23:23,000 --> 03:23:23,720 UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER POINT 4406 03:23:23,720 --> 03:23:25,800 FROM THE PANEL. 4407 03:23:25,800 --> 03:23:28,200 >> I CAN TAKE THE HELIOS ONE BUT 4408 03:23:28,200 --> 03:23:30,200 QUICKLY DO YOU THINK YOU GUYS 4409 03:23:30,200 --> 03:23:34,200 ARE LESS AGAINST MANDATES SOME 4410 03:23:34,200 --> 03:23:35,920 SEEMS LIKE IN THE U.S. WE HATE 4411 03:23:35,920 --> 03:23:37,120 ANYTHING TO BE MANDATE AND 4412 03:23:37,120 --> 03:23:37,760 YOU'VE USED THE WORD MANDATE A 4413 03:23:37,760 --> 03:23:47,840 LOT. 4414 03:23:48,520 --> 03:23:51,160 >> I'M NOT SURE. 4415 03:23:51,160 --> 03:23:52,760 WE DO HAVE FUNDER REQUIREMENTS 4416 03:23:52,760 --> 03:23:54,880 BUT I DON'T THINK MORE SO THAN 4417 03:23:54,880 --> 03:23:55,160 THE U.S. 4418 03:23:55,160 --> 03:23:57,480 WE'VE GONE TO THE FUNDERS AND 4419 03:23:57,480 --> 03:23:58,200 SAY WE'LL OFFER A PARTIAL 4420 03:23:58,200 --> 03:24:01,200 SOLUTION BY TAKING SOME OF THAT 4421 03:24:01,200 --> 03:24:02,200 OFF YOU BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T ALL 4422 03:24:02,200 --> 03:24:04,880 BE TOP DOWN AND NEED TO WORK IN 4423 03:24:04,880 --> 03:24:05,200 PARTNERSHIP. 4424 03:24:05,200 --> 03:24:08,040 I THINK MANDATES HAVE A PLACE IN 4425 03:24:08,040 --> 03:24:10,280 SOME SPECIFIC CONTEXT BUT 4426 03:24:10,280 --> 03:24:11,360 ACTUALLY I WOULDN'T EXPECT THEM 4427 03:24:11,360 --> 03:24:12,600 TO BE THE EXCEPTION. 4428 03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:15,720 >> AND ACROSS DISCIPLINES. 4429 03:24:15,720 --> 03:24:18,160 THAT'S BEEN ANOTHER REAL BIG 4430 03:24:18,160 --> 03:24:18,920 KEY. 4431 03:24:18,920 --> 03:24:20,280 IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC SOCIETY OR 4432 03:24:20,280 --> 03:24:21,640 DISCIPLINE SOLUTION TRYING TO 4433 03:24:21,640 --> 03:24:23,320 THINK MORE BROADLY SO THAT 4434 03:24:23,320 --> 03:24:24,120 CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE 4435 03:24:24,120 --> 03:24:28,680 IN THE ROOM TO HAVE THIS 4436 03:24:28,680 --> 03:24:29,000 CONVERSATION. 4437 03:24:29,000 --> 03:24:29,760 PEOPLE INVOLVED IN SOCIAL 4438 03:24:29,760 --> 03:24:32,120 RESEARCH IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD 4439 03:24:32,120 --> 03:24:32,960 BE IN THE SAME RIGOR 4440 03:24:32,960 --> 03:24:35,160 CONVERSATION AS OPPOSED TO THIS 4441 03:24:35,160 --> 03:24:39,840 IS ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE 4442 03:24:39,840 --> 03:24:41,040 INVOLVED IN BIO AND BIO MEDICINE 4443 03:24:41,040 --> 03:24:51,360 OR SOMETHING ELSE. 4444 03:24:55,760 --> 03:24:58,440 >> GOING BACK TO THE EVOLUTION 4445 03:24:58,440 --> 03:25:00,880 VERSUS REVOLUTION, I WOULDN'T 4446 03:25:00,880 --> 03:25:02,880 WANT TO APPEAR TOO CUDDLY 4447 03:25:02,880 --> 03:25:07,360 BECAUSE THERE'S FORCES OF 4448 03:25:07,360 --> 03:25:08,440 DARKNESS OUT THERE SUCCEEDING 4449 03:25:08,440 --> 03:25:09,320 VERY WELL AND DO EVERYTHING THEY 4450 03:25:09,320 --> 03:25:16,440 CAN TO GET IN OUR WAY. 4451 03:25:16,440 --> 03:25:18,480 THE NAIVE WAY IS BY JUST 4452 03:25:18,480 --> 03:25:19,080 OBSTRUCTING WHATEVER. 4453 03:25:19,080 --> 03:25:22,760 THE MORE BRITISH WAY IS TO 4454 03:25:22,760 --> 03:25:24,880 ACCOMMODATE, TO COERCE AND TO 4455 03:25:24,880 --> 03:25:27,560 APPEAR TO GIVE MORE AND SUCK THE 4456 03:25:27,560 --> 03:25:29,400 ENERGY OUT OF THESE REFORM 4457 03:25:29,400 --> 03:25:31,600 MOVEMENTS WHILE MOVING BEHAVIORS 4458 03:25:31,600 --> 03:25:41,960 JUST A TINY AMOUNT. 4459 03:25:46,240 --> 03:25:48,320 THERE'S THE VIEW OF THE OTHER 4460 03:25:48,320 --> 03:25:49,520 PANELISTS HOW THEY SEE WHAT 4461 03:25:49,520 --> 03:25:51,160 THEY'RE BEING GIVEN, IF YOU 4462 03:25:51,160 --> 03:25:53,320 LIKE, PERMISSION TO DO AS AN 4463 03:25:53,320 --> 03:25:56,360 ACCOMMODATION TO PREVENT A MORE 4464 03:25:56,360 --> 03:25:58,160 EXTREME REFORM AND HOW MUCH THE 4465 03:25:58,160 --> 03:25:59,960 WHOLE IS GENERALLY ON THE MARCH 4466 03:25:59,960 --> 03:26:02,200 TOGETHER AND MAY BE MOVING AT 4467 03:26:02,200 --> 03:26:03,800 DIFFERENT SPEEDS BUT ALL 4468 03:26:03,800 --> 03:26:04,480 COMMITTED TO A DIRECTION OF 4469 03:26:04,480 --> 03:26:05,360 MOVEMENT. 4470 03:26:05,360 --> 03:26:10,800 >> OKAY. 4471 03:26:10,800 --> 03:26:15,400 WHO'S JUMPING? 4472 03:26:15,400 --> 03:26:16,840 SOFIA IS READY FOR YOU. 4473 03:26:16,840 --> 03:26:20,040 >> IN TERMS OF REPRODUCE ACT. 4474 03:26:20,040 --> 03:26:21,240 WE MOSTLY KEEP OUT THE MORE 4475 03:26:21,240 --> 03:26:22,440 SENIOR PEOPLE SO YOU DON'T WANT 4476 03:26:22,440 --> 03:26:28,280 TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING 4477 03:26:28,280 --> 03:26:28,480 ABOUT. 4478 03:26:28,480 --> 03:26:30,200 I DON'T THINK IT'S ABOUT BEING 4479 03:26:30,200 --> 03:26:33,000 ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING BUT MORE 4480 03:26:33,000 --> 03:26:33,880 ON THE REVOLUTIONARY SIDE AND 4481 03:26:33,880 --> 03:26:38,160 MEANS A SUPPORT GROUP AT THE END 4482 03:26:38,160 --> 03:26:39,640 OF THE DAY. 4483 03:26:39,640 --> 03:26:41,080 MAYBE THE QUESTION WASN'T FOR 4484 03:26:41,080 --> 03:26:41,320 ME. 4485 03:26:41,320 --> 03:26:42,640 >> ALL QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU. 4486 03:26:42,640 --> 03:26:43,800 ALL QUESTIONS. 4487 03:26:43,800 --> 03:26:44,000 MARCUS. 4488 03:26:44,000 --> 03:26:51,400 >> I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START. 4489 03:26:51,400 --> 03:26:54,240 >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GIVES 4490 03:26:54,240 --> 03:27:02,960 THE UPRN ITS LEGIT MASSIMACY WE 4491 03:27:02,960 --> 03:27:04,600 TO REMEMBER THAT ACADEMIA CAN BE 4492 03:27:04,600 --> 03:27:06,120 HIGH RANKING BUT IT'S FOR ALL OF 4493 03:27:06,120 --> 03:27:06,800 US AND WE'RE ALL PART OF THE 4494 03:27:06,800 --> 03:27:15,120 ACADEMY. 4495 03:27:15,120 --> 03:27:16,760 WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE 4496 03:27:16,760 --> 03:27:18,200 INITIATIVES THAT CREATE THAT 4497 03:27:18,200 --> 03:27:19,920 CLAMORING AT THE GATES I WAS 4498 03:27:19,920 --> 03:27:20,960 TALKING ABOUT SO PEOPLE IN 4499 03:27:20,960 --> 03:27:21,600 SENIOR POSITIONS REALIZE THERE'S 4500 03:27:21,600 --> 03:27:27,320 A NEED TO CHANGE OTHERWISE AND 4501 03:27:27,320 --> 03:27:30,480 WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT 4502 03:27:30,480 --> 03:27:31,440 ARTICULATING WHY THOSE IN SENIOR 4503 03:27:31,440 --> 03:27:32,920 POSITIONS SHOULD BE CHANGING 4504 03:27:32,920 --> 03:27:35,080 THINGS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S 4505 03:27:35,080 --> 03:27:39,920 IN OUR INTEREST AND WE'LL 4506 03:27:39,920 --> 03:27:41,320 ADVANCE KNOWLEDGE MORE RAPIDLY 4507 03:27:41,320 --> 03:27:43,360 AND WE'LL RETAIN THE BEST TALENT 4508 03:27:43,360 --> 03:27:44,560 AND THEREFORE DO BETTER RESEARCH 4509 03:27:44,560 --> 03:27:50,440 AS A RESULT OF THAT. 4510 03:27:50,440 --> 03:27:52,000 ALL THAT FITS TOGETHER. 4511 03:27:52,000 --> 03:27:53,320 IT'S COMPLEX BUT ONE OF THE 4512 03:27:53,320 --> 03:27:56,440 GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR ME IS WE 4513 03:27:56,440 --> 03:27:57,760 NEED TO LISTEN AS MUCH ADVOCATE. 4514 03:27:57,760 --> 03:28:00,600 WHICH IS WHY I STRUGGLE WITH THE 4515 03:28:00,600 --> 03:28:01,680 REVOLUTIONARY BIT BECAUSE IT'S 4516 03:28:01,680 --> 03:28:03,560 TELLING PEOPLE HOW TO DO THINGS. 4517 03:28:03,560 --> 03:28:05,320 WE NEED TO BE IN LISTENING MODE 4518 03:28:05,320 --> 03:28:07,240 AS WELL AND LISTEN TO THE EARLY 4519 03:28:07,240 --> 03:28:12,920 CAREER RESEARCHERS AND THEY ALSO 4520 03:28:12,920 --> 03:28:16,640 THERE NEEDS TO BE BACK AND FORTH 4521 03:28:16,640 --> 03:28:17,280 DIALOGUE AND THERE'S INTERESTING 4522 03:28:17,280 --> 03:28:20,320 CONVERSATIONS WHEN YOU START TO 4523 03:28:20,320 --> 03:28:21,560 TAKE PRINCIPLES OF OPEN RESEARCH 4524 03:28:21,560 --> 03:28:22,480 TO THE SOCIAL SCIENCES FOR 4525 03:28:22,480 --> 03:28:29,320 EXAMPLE. 4526 03:28:29,320 --> 03:28:32,520 AND WITHOUT BECOMING TOO FLUFFY 4527 03:28:32,520 --> 03:28:34,120 OR ALLOWING IT TO DRIFT IS THE 4528 03:28:34,120 --> 03:28:44,320 CHALLENGE. 4529 03:28:50,680 --> 03:28:53,040 >> THERE'S A POWER DYNAMIC IN 4530 03:28:53,040 --> 03:28:55,000 ACADEMIA BUT I DOWN THINK IT'S 4531 03:28:55,000 --> 03:28:56,840 SET IN STONE AND AS OUR 4532 03:28:56,840 --> 03:28:59,000 UNIVERSITY WENT THROUGH A MAJOR 4533 03:28:59,000 --> 03:29:04,440 UNIONIZATION BY OUR GRADUATE 4534 03:29:04,440 --> 03:29:05,600 STUDENTS ILLUSTRATES THERE CAN 4535 03:29:05,600 --> 03:29:07,040 BE MAJOR SHIFTS AND WE HAVE TO 4536 03:29:07,040 --> 03:29:10,120 BE OPEN TO THOSE AND BE READY TO 4537 03:29:10,120 --> 03:29:14,600 JUMP WHEN THERE'S AN 4538 03:29:14,600 --> 03:29:14,880 OPPORTUNITY. 4539 03:29:14,880 --> 03:29:16,360 I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE 4540 03:29:16,360 --> 03:29:18,080 OPPORTUNITIES TO JUMP IN AND ADD 4541 03:29:18,080 --> 03:29:20,760 THIS COMPONENT TO A BROADER 4542 03:29:20,760 --> 03:29:21,360 DISCUSSION OF ISSUES. 4543 03:29:21,360 --> 03:29:28,160 I THINK THIS PIECE FITS AND 4544 03:29:28,160 --> 03:29:30,800 SYNERGIZE WITH OTHER ISSUES. 4545 03:29:30,800 --> 03:29:32,200 >> THE MAGIC OF A GROUP LIKE 4546 03:29:32,200 --> 03:29:34,240 THIS IS THE WIDE ARRAY OF PEOPLE 4547 03:29:34,240 --> 03:29:41,200 FROM OFFICERS TO PEOPLE LEADING 4548 03:29:41,200 --> 03:29:48,080 LABS TO INTERYY -- INTEGRITY 4549 03:29:48,080 --> 03:29:51,320 OFFICERS AND THERE'S A WIDE 4550 03:29:51,320 --> 03:29:55,040 ARRAY OF FOLKS WE CAN FIND AS 4551 03:29:55,040 --> 03:29:58,000 COCONSPIRATORS AND NOT WAIT FOR 4552 03:29:58,000 --> 03:30:04,360 PERMISSION FROM ANYBODY, MEL 4553 03:30:04,360 --> 03:30:04,560 COME. 4554 03:30:04,560 --> 03:30:05,320 -- MALCOLM. 4555 03:30:05,320 --> 03:30:10,240 >> DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK? 4556 03:30:10,240 --> 03:30:17,400 VERONIQUE. 4557 03:30:17,400 --> 03:30:17,520 4558 03:30:17,520 --> 03:30:19,240 >> I WANT TO COME BACK TO THE 4559 03:30:19,240 --> 03:30:21,360 VOICES WE DON'T HEAR BECAUSE 4560 03:30:21,360 --> 03:30:22,720 THEY LEAVE ACADEMIA BECAUSE THEY 4561 03:30:22,720 --> 03:30:28,760 ARE FED UP WITH THE SYSTEM AND 4562 03:30:28,760 --> 03:30:33,480 THEY ENTERED ACADEMIA TO DO 4563 03:30:33,480 --> 03:30:35,360 SCIENCE AND DO GOOD IN THE WORLD 4564 03:30:35,360 --> 03:30:40,760 AND REALIZED IT'S A LOSING 4565 03:30:40,760 --> 03:30:41,840 BATTLE AND HAVE NO POWER AND 4566 03:30:41,840 --> 03:30:43,880 LEAVE AND WE DON'T LISTEN TO 4567 03:30:43,880 --> 03:30:45,120 THOSE VOICES. 4568 03:30:45,120 --> 03:30:46,240 I'M IMPRESSED ON THE WORK ON 4569 03:30:46,240 --> 03:30:47,960 RESEARCH CULTURE IN THE U.K. 4570 03:30:47,960 --> 03:30:49,120 I'M WONDERING KAREN OR ANYBODY 4571 03:30:49,120 --> 03:30:54,840 ELSE IN THE ROOM, IF WE HAVE DO 4572 03:30:54,840 --> 03:30:58,240 WE HAVE DATA ON EXIT INTERVIEWS 4573 03:30:58,240 --> 03:31:00,800 OR SURVEYS OF PEOPLE AT EXIT 4574 03:31:00,800 --> 03:31:02,120 POINTS AND WHY ARE THEY LEAVING 4575 03:31:02,120 --> 03:31:03,720 AND WHAT'S THE SCALE OF THE 4576 03:31:03,720 --> 03:31:05,000 PROBLEM AND WOULD THAT BE -- DO 4577 03:31:05,000 --> 03:31:06,000 WE HAVE THAT? 4578 03:31:06,000 --> 03:31:08,480 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. 4579 03:31:08,480 --> 03:31:10,120 IF WE DON'T WOULD IT BE HELPFUL 4580 03:31:10,120 --> 03:31:20,400 HERE IN THE U.S. 4581 03:31:29,400 --> 03:31:31,480 >> WE KNOW A BIT BUT NOT A LOT 4582 03:31:31,480 --> 03:31:33,280 OF THOSE WHO EXITED. 4583 03:31:33,280 --> 03:31:38,760 WE HAVE A SOCIETY BRINGING 4584 03:31:38,760 --> 03:31:42,400 RETURNERS BACK IN AND PROVIDE 4585 03:31:42,400 --> 03:31:44,720 FELLOWSHIPS INCLUDING UKRI FOR 4586 03:31:44,720 --> 03:31:45,960 RETURNERS AND WHAT'S INTERESTING 4587 03:31:45,960 --> 03:31:47,280 IS THEIR MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO 4588 03:31:47,280 --> 03:31:50,000 THEM AND NOT AN INSTITUTION WHO 4589 03:31:50,000 --> 03:31:52,120 WILL THEN FUNNEL IT OUT AND TAKE 4590 03:31:52,120 --> 03:31:57,200 IT TO INTERESTING SETS OF ROLES 4591 03:31:57,200 --> 03:32:00,440 AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT 4592 03:32:00,440 --> 03:32:03,080 BRINGS PEOPLE BACK IN AND IN 4593 03:32:03,080 --> 03:32:03,320 WHAT WAY. 4594 03:32:03,320 --> 03:32:04,640 ONE PERSON WAS AT THE FOREFRONT 4595 03:32:04,640 --> 03:32:09,800 OF HER FIELD AND MADE A DECISION 4596 03:32:09,800 --> 03:32:13,720 TO FIND SOMEBODY AND MAKE SOME 4597 03:32:13,720 --> 03:32:14,960 BABIES BUT WHEN SHE CAME BACK 4598 03:32:14,960 --> 03:32:19,560 THE TOOLS AND TECHNIQUES 4599 03:32:19,560 --> 03:32:21,120 ADVANCED SO SIGNIFICANTLY SHE 4600 03:32:21,120 --> 03:32:23,400 HAD TO START OVER AND FOUND 4601 03:32:23,400 --> 03:32:24,160 SOMEONE ALLOWING HER TO PRACTICE 4602 03:32:24,160 --> 03:32:27,200 MESSING WITH THE KIT AND THE 4603 03:32:27,200 --> 03:32:29,240 STUFF AND THAT'S WHAT SHE USED 4604 03:32:29,240 --> 03:32:31,680 HER FELLOWSHIP FOR WAS TO RETOOL 4605 03:32:31,680 --> 03:32:33,440 AND MOVE FORWARD BUT DIDN'T 4606 03:32:33,440 --> 03:32:35,400 THINK SHE'D BE ABLE FIND A 4607 03:32:35,400 --> 03:32:38,520 REGULAR FELLOWSHIP SO ALLOW HER 4608 03:32:38,520 --> 03:32:40,640 TO DO THAT THE WAY THE 4609 03:32:40,640 --> 03:32:41,880 CRITERIA'S SET UP. 4610 03:32:41,880 --> 03:32:45,560 IT'S NOT JUST WHO MAY EXIT OR 4611 03:32:45,560 --> 03:32:47,280 ENTER BACK IN BUT WHO'S ALSO 4612 03:32:47,280 --> 03:32:52,920 NEVER THERE AND NOT A PART OF 4613 03:32:52,920 --> 03:32:54,440 THESE GROUPS NOT IN THE ROOMS OR 4614 03:32:54,440 --> 03:32:55,000 INSTITUTIONS. 4615 03:32:55,000 --> 03:32:56,000 THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE 4616 03:32:56,000 --> 03:32:56,440 CONVERSATIONS. 4617 03:32:56,440 --> 03:33:00,600 AND WE HAVE GOING TO NEED TO 4618 03:33:00,600 --> 03:33:01,680 DYNAMICALLY KEEP THAT ALIVE 4619 03:33:01,680 --> 03:33:02,120 SIMULTANEOUSLY. 4620 03:33:02,120 --> 03:33:04,880 I'LL TURN TO MY PANEL. 4621 03:33:04,880 --> 03:33:07,000 >> THE MPA HAS COLLECTED THAT 4622 03:33:07,000 --> 03:33:07,480 DATA. 4623 03:33:07,480 --> 03:33:10,680 I DON'T KNOW HOW RECENT IT WAS. 4624 03:33:10,680 --> 03:33:14,120 LAST TIME I READ A BIG CAUSE WAS 4625 03:33:14,120 --> 03:33:18,520 BALANCING CAREER AND FAMILY. 4626 03:33:18,520 --> 03:33:21,480 MANY FUNDERS THEIR AWARDEES GO 4627 03:33:21,480 --> 03:33:25,560 ON TO STEP TWO. 4628 03:33:25,560 --> 03:33:27,320 THEY'RE DATA IS THERE BUT I 4629 03:33:27,320 --> 03:33:28,520 DON'T KNOW HOW RECENT IT IS 4630 03:33:28,520 --> 03:33:29,520 BECAUSE THE CAREER FAMILY THING 4631 03:33:29,520 --> 03:33:32,040 MAY OR MAY NOT BE AS PREVALENT 4632 03:33:32,040 --> 03:33:33,440 AS IT WAS THE LAST TIME I READ 4633 03:33:33,440 --> 03:33:35,280 THE SURVEY BUT I KNOW PEOPLE ARE 4634 03:33:35,280 --> 03:33:36,960 DOING SURVEY AND THINK IT'S A 4635 03:33:36,960 --> 03:33:38,120 FABULOUS POINT. 4636 03:33:38,120 --> 03:33:39,160 WHOEVER HAS DONE THAT SURVEY 4637 03:33:39,160 --> 03:33:40,320 BEFORE, LET'S GET THEM TO ASK 4638 03:33:40,320 --> 03:33:50,760 THE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO. 4639 03:33:53,880 --> 03:34:04,000 [OFF MIC] 4640 03:34:16,760 --> 03:34:18,120 >> AND PEOPLE CARING FOR OTHER 4641 03:34:18,120 --> 03:34:21,560 PARTNERS AND CARING FOR ADULTS. 4642 03:34:21,560 --> 03:34:22,480 THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A LITTLE 4643 03:34:22,480 --> 03:34:24,080 WILL TO START TO UNPACK 4644 03:34:24,080 --> 03:34:26,120 INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO MAY GO INTO 4645 03:34:26,120 --> 03:34:29,360 FIELD WHERE A MASTER'S MAY BE 4646 03:34:29,360 --> 03:34:30,120 THE PENULTIMATE DEGREE. 4647 03:34:30,120 --> 03:34:35,040 THERE'S QUITE A LOT TO 4648 03:34:35,040 --> 03:34:45,600 UNDERSTAND ABOUT PIPELINE GROUPS 4649 03:34:46,560 --> 03:34:49,280 IN THE U.K. LOOKING AT THAT. 4650 03:34:49,280 --> 03:34:53,320 >> THERE'S PEOPLE IN ACADEMIA 4651 03:34:53,320 --> 03:34:54,320 AND THERE'S BITS IN THERE ABOUT 4652 03:34:54,320 --> 03:34:55,280 REASONS THEY'RE THINKING OF 4653 03:34:55,280 --> 03:34:55,680 LEAVING. 4654 03:34:55,680 --> 03:34:56,960 ONE THING WE NEED TO CHALLENGE 4655 03:34:56,960 --> 03:34:58,120 IS THIS PIPELINE NOTION. 4656 03:34:58,120 --> 03:35:00,520 THE FACT WE HAVE A PIPELINE I 4657 03:35:00,520 --> 03:35:01,880 THINK IS A NARROW CONCEPTION OF 4658 03:35:01,880 --> 03:35:03,600 WHAT A CAREER CAN LOOK LIKE AND 4659 03:35:03,600 --> 03:35:04,920 WE NEED TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES 4660 03:35:04,920 --> 03:35:10,120 FOR PEOPLE TO RETURN BACK TO 4661 03:35:10,120 --> 03:35:16,120 ACADEMIA TO KAREN'S POINT. 4662 03:35:16,120 --> 03:35:17,720 THAT WOULD ALLOW OTHER SECTORS 4663 03:35:17,720 --> 03:35:21,480 TO COME BACK AND ONE OF THE 4664 03:35:21,480 --> 03:35:23,520 REASONS WE'RE SO UNIMAGINATIVE 4665 03:35:23,520 --> 03:35:26,840 IS MOST OF US HAVE LITTLE 4666 03:35:26,840 --> 03:35:28,920 EXPERIENCE OUTSIDE ACADEMIA. 4667 03:35:28,920 --> 03:35:31,480 >> NOT AN ALT TRACT BUT WHAT 4668 03:35:31,480 --> 03:35:34,680 DOES POROSITY LOOK LIKE ACROSS 4669 03:35:34,680 --> 03:35:36,320 SECTORS INCLUDING A NARROW TRACK 4670 03:35:36,320 --> 03:35:37,040 IN VARIOUS AREAS. 4671 03:35:37,040 --> 03:35:38,120 I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE AT. 4672 03:35:38,120 --> 03:35:48,440 I THINK WE'RE HERE. 4673 03:35:50,000 --> 03:35:53,400 >> WE THINK NOT ENOUGH ARE 4674 03:35:53,400 --> 03:35:54,880 LEAVING ACADEMIA AND SHOULD BE 4675 03:35:54,880 --> 03:35:55,880 LEAVING SOONER. 4676 03:35:55,880 --> 03:35:59,280 >> YOU'RE PUSHING THEM OUT THE 4677 03:35:59,280 --> 03:35:59,480 DOOR? 4678 03:35:59,480 --> 03:36:02,240 I'M KIDDING. 4679 03:36:02,240 --> 03:36:11,400 IT'S SARCASM. 4680 03:36:11,400 --> 03:36:15,160 >> FUNDAMENTALLY WE PRODUCE TOO 4681 03:36:15,160 --> 03:36:17,400 MANY Ph.D.s FOR NO GOOD REASON 4682 03:36:17,400 --> 03:36:19,040 AND SHOULD STOP THE PRODUCTION 4683 03:36:19,040 --> 03:36:22,840 WHICH WOULD SOLVE A NUMBER OF 4684 03:36:22,840 --> 03:36:24,520 PROBLEMS INCLUDING LARGE NUMBERS 4685 03:36:24,520 --> 03:36:26,960 OF PAPER AND NOT ENOUGH QUALITY 4686 03:36:26,960 --> 03:36:29,440 AND WHATNOT AND WHY DO WE WANT 4687 03:36:29,440 --> 03:36:30,120 PEOPLE BACK? 4688 03:36:30,120 --> 03:36:31,800 IT'S NOT A GOOD LIFE FOR MANY 4689 03:36:31,800 --> 03:36:42,160 PEOPLE IN ACADEMIA. 4690 03:36:42,960 --> 03:36:46,640 >> WE TALKED ABOUT WHO IS IN 4691 03:36:46,640 --> 03:36:49,600 ACADEMIA AND DO CONSIDER THE 4692 03:36:49,600 --> 03:36:51,320 GREENHOUSE GROWER AS PART OF 4693 03:36:51,320 --> 03:36:51,600 ACADEMIA. 4694 03:36:51,600 --> 03:36:53,000 WHAT WOULD CHANGE IF WE MOVED 4695 03:36:53,000 --> 03:36:55,320 FROM WHAT THE ROLES MIGHT END UP 4696 03:36:55,320 --> 03:36:56,080 BEING? 4697 03:36:56,080 --> 03:37:00,520 THIS IS MARCUS' POINT. 4698 03:37:00,520 --> 03:37:02,440 NOT DISAGREEING CONCEPTUALLY 4699 03:37:02,440 --> 03:37:04,640 THOUGH MANY ARE NOT HIRING AFTER 4700 03:37:04,640 --> 03:37:06,120 SOME RETIRE AND THE LINES ARE 4701 03:37:06,120 --> 03:37:07,440 DISAPPEARING IN THE U.S. AND 4702 03:37:07,440 --> 03:37:10,160 U.K. BUT I THINK THESE ARE REAL 4703 03:37:10,160 --> 03:37:13,640 BIG FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS AROUND 4704 03:37:13,640 --> 03:37:13,840 ROLES. 4705 03:37:13,840 --> 03:37:14,760 AND RESPONSIBILITIES. 4706 03:37:14,760 --> 03:37:16,360 MAYBE WE CAN PICK THIS UP AS 4707 03:37:16,360 --> 03:37:21,360 WELL WHEN WE GET INTO OUR NEXT 4708 03:37:21,360 --> 03:37:23,440 BIT OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT 4709 03:37:23,440 --> 03:37:24,640 NEXT STEPS. 4710 03:37:24,640 --> 03:37:26,120 I'M WARNING YOU WE'RE ON CLOCK 4711 03:37:26,120 --> 03:37:26,280 NOW. 4712 03:37:26,280 --> 03:37:28,600 YOU'VE MANAGED TO PERK UP, FIND 4713 03:37:28,600 --> 03:37:34,040 YOUR ENERGY AND COME UP WITH 4714 03:37:34,040 --> 03:37:37,600 BRILLIANT IDEAS BUT WE'LL 4715 03:37:37,600 --> 03:37:38,520 PROBABLY TAKE THE LAST THREE 4716 03:37:38,520 --> 03:37:44,400 BEFORE WE TURN THE STAGE TO 4717 03:37:44,400 --> 03:37:49,400 VERONIQUE. 4718 03:37:49,400 --> 03:37:54,160 >> ONE COMMENT IS WE CAN'T 4719 03:37:54,160 --> 03:37:56,320 UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE OF 4720 03:37:56,320 --> 03:37:58,600 SAVING THIS GENERATION OF 4721 03:37:58,600 --> 03:37:58,840 SCIENCE. 4722 03:37:58,840 --> 03:37:59,640 THERE'S THE DISCUSSION OF 4723 03:37:59,640 --> 03:38:01,480 REVOLUTION VERSUS EVOLUTION. 4724 03:38:01,480 --> 03:38:03,080 IT'S NOT REALLY A DICHOTOMY. 4725 03:38:03,080 --> 03:38:05,280 IT'S HOW FAST CAN WE MAKE THE 4726 03:38:05,280 --> 03:38:06,120 EVOLUTION GO. 4727 03:38:06,120 --> 03:38:08,320 AT SOME POINT IT LOOKS LIKE A 4728 03:38:08,320 --> 03:38:09,760 REVOLUTION BUT IT'S JUST RAPID 4729 03:38:09,760 --> 03:38:11,440 EVOLUTION AND I THINK WE NEED TO 4730 03:38:11,440 --> 03:38:13,920 THINK OF IT IN TERMS OF SYSTEMS 4731 03:38:13,920 --> 03:38:15,720 OF CHANGE TO GET US THERE MORE 4732 03:38:15,720 --> 03:38:17,000 QUICKLY TO PRESERVE AND SAVE THE 4733 03:38:17,000 --> 03:38:18,360 CURRENT GENERATION OF 4734 03:38:18,360 --> 03:38:18,640 SCIENTISTS. 4735 03:38:18,640 --> 03:38:21,800 I WANT TO USE A COUPLE 4736 03:38:21,800 --> 03:38:22,080 ANECDOTES. 4737 03:38:22,080 --> 03:38:24,000 ONE COMES FROM THE RESEARCH 4738 03:38:24,000 --> 03:38:25,600 PROJECT I DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO 4739 03:38:25,600 --> 03:38:28,000 AT THIS POINT WHERE WE LOOKED AT 4740 03:38:28,000 --> 03:38:29,520 HEURISTIC DECISION MAKING IN 4741 03:38:29,520 --> 03:38:32,920 SCIENCE AND HOW DO THEY DECIDE 4742 03:38:32,920 --> 03:38:34,120 WHEN THEY'RE STOP COLLECTING 4743 03:38:34,120 --> 03:38:36,600 DATA AND COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM 4744 03:38:36,600 --> 03:38:38,120 THE STUDY WERE THINGS LIKE I 4745 03:38:38,120 --> 03:38:41,080 WORK IN THE LAB WHERE WHERE HE 4746 03:38:41,080 --> 03:38:43,520 USE OPTIONAL STOPPING. 4747 03:38:43,520 --> 03:38:45,080 I KNOW IT'S WRONG AND WE DO IT 4748 03:38:45,080 --> 03:38:46,120 BUT WHEN I GET MY OWN LAB I 4749 03:38:46,120 --> 03:38:53,760 WON'T DO IT. 4750 03:38:53,760 --> 03:38:55,400 IR HAD STUDENTS THAT WOULD COME 4751 03:38:55,400 --> 03:38:57,000 AND SAY I WANT TO SWITCH ADVISER 4752 03:38:57,000 --> 03:38:58,720 AND WANT TO DO SO BECAUSE I WANT 4753 03:38:58,720 --> 03:39:01,000 TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION NOT 4754 03:39:01,000 --> 03:39:03,400 PART OF THE PROBLEM. 4755 03:39:03,400 --> 03:39:05,240 THESE ARE REAL PROBLEMS 4756 03:39:05,240 --> 03:39:07,640 AFFECTING DECISIONS OF OUR 4757 03:39:07,640 --> 03:39:08,400 GRADUATE STUDENTS AND SHOULDN'T 4758 03:39:08,400 --> 03:39:09,320 HAVE TO BE IN THIS POSITION AND 4759 03:39:09,320 --> 03:39:14,720 THAT'S THE KIND OF SAVING WE 4760 03:39:14,720 --> 03:39:25,080 NEED TO DO WE CAN'T 4761 03:39:29,480 --> 03:39:32,400 UNDERESTIMATE THE NO CHANGE ON 4762 03:39:32,400 --> 03:39:33,320 WHAT IT'S DOING TO OUR 4763 03:39:33,320 --> 03:39:33,920 PROFESSIONAL AND THE STUDENTS 4764 03:39:33,920 --> 03:39:42,440 WE'RE PRODUCING. 4765 03:39:42,440 --> 03:39:43,040 >> OKAY. 4766 03:39:43,040 --> 03:39:44,600 >> WHEN YOU SAY THIS GENERATION 4767 03:39:44,600 --> 03:39:52,000 WHAT GENERATION? 4768 03:39:52,000 --> 03:39:54,160 >> THE NEW FACULTY. 4769 03:39:54,160 --> 03:39:58,120 I TELL THEM WHAT OUR NEW 4770 03:39:58,120 --> 03:39:59,400 POLICIES ARE. 4771 03:39:59,400 --> 03:40:02,120 >> EARLIER CAREER PEOPLE IN 4772 03:40:02,120 --> 03:40:06,000 PARTICULAR GRADUATE STUDENTS, 4773 03:40:06,000 --> 03:40:08,000 POST-DOCS, EARLY CAREER FACULTY. 4774 03:40:08,000 --> 03:40:15,120 >> WE TALKED ABOUT REVOLUTION. 4775 03:40:15,120 --> 03:40:20,280 IT'S NOT SAYING HOW IT SHOULD BE 4776 03:40:20,280 --> 03:40:24,520 DONE BUT IT'S NOT A DICTATOR 4777 03:40:24,520 --> 03:40:25,760 SAYING HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE 4778 03:40:25,760 --> 03:40:29,440 OR THESE ARE THE RULES. 4779 03:40:29,440 --> 03:40:31,160 IT'S BUILT BY GATHERING AND 4780 03:40:31,160 --> 03:40:33,360 FIGURING OUT CREATING 4781 03:40:33,360 --> 03:40:36,640 COMMUNITIES OF ALLIES TO 4782 03:40:36,640 --> 03:40:41,640 PUSHBACK AND THEY TAKE PRINCIPLE 4783 03:40:41,640 --> 03:40:45,400 STANCES SOMETIMES AND BASED ON 4784 03:40:45,400 --> 03:40:48,920 AN IDEOLOGY AND MAKES IT AN 4785 03:40:48,920 --> 03:40:49,320 EVOLUTION. 4786 03:40:49,320 --> 03:40:52,680 A REVOLUTION IS THE PREVAILING 4787 03:40:52,680 --> 03:40:55,680 IDEOLOGY AND I'LL COME AT IT 4788 03:40:55,680 --> 03:41:02,120 FROM A COMPLETE CHANGE OF 4789 03:41:02,120 --> 03:41:10,480 PARADIGM WHAT ARE THE PRACTICAL 4790 03:41:10,480 --> 03:41:17,200 NEXT STEPS AND CARING ABOUT A 4791 03:41:17,200 --> 03:41:22,080 PRINCIPLE STANCE AND THE RISK 4792 03:41:22,080 --> 03:41:26,080 I'M WILLING TO TAKE AND SAYING 4793 03:41:26,080 --> 03:41:29,240 THE SYSTEM WILL NOT HELP ME BUT 4794 03:41:29,240 --> 03:41:30,600 I'LL STILL DO IT AND WE NEED TO 4795 03:41:30,600 --> 03:41:36,800 BE ON THE PATH OF A SLOW 4796 03:41:36,800 --> 03:41:47,320 MODERATE CHANGE AND AND THAT'S 4797 03:41:47,320 --> 03:41:57,880 WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO AND IT'S 4798 03:42:00,440 --> 03:42:04,400 ABOUT SAYING THESE ARE THE 4799 03:42:04,400 --> 03:42:05,400 ENCOURAGING THE ARGUMENTATION 4800 03:42:05,400 --> 03:42:07,720 AND USING PARADIGMS SAYING IT'S 4801 03:42:07,720 --> 03:42:09,360 WORTHWHILE TO TAKE THE RISKS AND 4802 03:42:09,360 --> 03:42:13,120 IF THE SYSTEM IS NOT ENCOURAGING 4803 03:42:13,120 --> 03:42:14,760 YOU, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO 4804 03:42:14,760 --> 03:42:17,440 ACCEPT AS A COMMUNITY TRYING TO 4805 03:42:17,440 --> 03:42:20,000 ADVOCATE CHANGE THERE'LL BE 4806 03:42:20,000 --> 03:42:20,760 CASUALTIES ALONG THE WAY IN 4807 03:42:20,760 --> 03:42:22,240 TRYING TO DO IT. 4808 03:42:22,240 --> 03:42:32,440 THANK YOU. 4809 03:42:42,240 --> 03:42:43,920 >> HOW QUICKLY DO WE WANT TO 4810 03:42:43,920 --> 03:42:44,520 MAKE CHANGE? 4811 03:42:44,520 --> 03:42:50,120 I THINK THE DIMENSION OF TIME IS 4812 03:42:50,120 --> 03:42:51,200 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN THE 4813 03:42:51,200 --> 03:42:51,440 DECISION. 4814 03:42:51,440 --> 03:42:52,880 WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS. 4815 03:42:52,880 --> 03:42:56,240 I WANT TO BRING THIS UP AS 4816 03:42:56,240 --> 03:42:57,840 PERHAPS AS A PLATFORM ON 4817 03:42:57,840 --> 03:43:00,280 THINKING ABOUT WHERE WE MOVE 4818 03:43:00,280 --> 03:43:01,960 FORWARD IF YOU WANT TO GET 4819 03:43:01,960 --> 03:43:03,280 SOMETHING DONE BY NEXT YEAR YOU 4820 03:43:03,280 --> 03:43:05,360 SAY OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE 4821 03:43:05,360 --> 03:43:10,040 TO DO BUT IF YOUR PROJECTION IS 4822 03:43:10,040 --> 03:43:12,520 10, 20 YEARS IT'S VERY 4823 03:43:12,520 --> 03:43:12,920 DIFFERENT. 4824 03:43:12,920 --> 03:43:17,240 >> ALL RIGHT. 4825 03:43:17,240 --> 03:43:27,720 LET'S GO IN OERDER 4826 03:43:27,720 --> 03:43:29,640 >> I'LL TALK ABOUT THE 4827 03:43:29,640 --> 03:43:36,440 GENERATION THING. 4828 03:43:36,440 --> 03:43:38,120 IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MEAN. 4829 03:43:38,120 --> 03:43:40,400 IF IT'S SAVING THIS GENERATION 4830 03:43:40,400 --> 03:43:42,640 ARE THEY PAYING THE GAME THAT 4831 03:43:42,640 --> 03:43:44,080 WILL CURRENTLY GIVE THEM AND 4832 03:43:44,080 --> 03:43:47,080 MAKE THEM WIN OR PLAYING THE 4833 03:43:47,080 --> 03:43:48,120 GAME THAT THE SECOND THING YOU 4834 03:43:48,120 --> 03:43:53,000 MENTIONED WHERE THEY'RE TRYING 4835 03:43:53,000 --> 03:43:58,280 TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THE 4836 03:43:58,280 --> 03:44:01,840 TANDEM SOLUTIONS WILL END UP 4837 03:44:01,840 --> 03:44:05,440 BENEFITING MAINLY THE PEOPLE WHO 4838 03:44:05,440 --> 03:44:08,160 ARE PLAYING THE GAME CORRECTLY 4839 03:44:08,160 --> 03:44:09,440 GIVEN THE RULES OF THE SYSTEM 4840 03:44:09,440 --> 03:44:11,960 AND HAVE THE PROBLEM WHERE 4841 03:44:11,960 --> 03:44:16,360 PEOPLE WHO MAY BE HAVE REALIZED 4842 03:44:16,360 --> 03:44:17,600 A BIT EARLIER WHAT'S GOING ON 4843 03:44:17,600 --> 03:44:19,960 HAVING DONE SOMETHING THAT 4844 03:44:19,960 --> 03:44:21,960 REALLY DID GO AGAINST THEIR BEST 4845 03:44:21,960 --> 03:44:22,560 INTEREST BECAUSE YOU ALREADY 4846 03:44:22,560 --> 03:44:24,440 SAID PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO DO 4847 03:44:24,440 --> 03:44:25,720 ANYTHING THAT GOES AGAINST THEIR 4848 03:44:25,720 --> 03:44:27,200 BEST INTEREST. 4849 03:44:27,200 --> 03:44:31,400 I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR 4850 03:44:31,400 --> 03:44:33,160 GRAD STUDENTS AND FOR MORE 4851 03:44:33,160 --> 03:44:33,960 EASTERN PEOPLE AND THOSE WHO 4852 03:44:33,960 --> 03:44:43,200 HAVE TO LOSE IN AGAIN. 4853 03:44:43,200 --> 03:44:44,880 AND HOW TO BEST SUPPORT IT I 4854 03:44:44,880 --> 03:44:47,480 DON'T KNOW IN I REALIZED SO SOON 4855 03:44:47,480 --> 03:44:51,240 I REALIZED I HAVE TO GO TO A 4856 03:44:51,240 --> 03:44:53,720 META FIELD AND WE ENCOUNTERED 4857 03:44:53,720 --> 03:44:59,480 THIS A LOT IN REPRODUCIBILITY 4858 03:44:59,480 --> 03:45:00,040 MEETINGS. 4859 03:45:00,040 --> 03:45:01,680 THEY SAID I'M ON BOARD BUT WHAT 4860 03:45:01,680 --> 03:45:08,280 I DO DO NOW AND PEOPLE CHANGED 4861 03:45:08,280 --> 03:45:09,200 THEIR DISSERTATIONS IN THEIR 4862 03:45:09,200 --> 03:45:10,720 FIELD AND YOU CAN GO THAT ROOT. 4863 03:45:10,720 --> 03:45:12,880 THERE ARE WAYS OF SOLVING THAT 4864 03:45:12,880 --> 03:45:16,440 BUT THEN YOU'RE AT A DEAD END 4865 03:45:16,440 --> 03:45:17,480 AND LOTS OF PEOPLE DO LEAVE AND 4866 03:45:17,480 --> 03:45:19,200 I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT 4867 03:45:19,200 --> 03:45:20,680 THAT AND I'M NOT THE PERSON TO 4868 03:45:20,680 --> 03:45:22,080 SOLVE THAT BUT IT'S A HUGE 4869 03:45:22,080 --> 03:45:31,600 PROBLEM. 4870 03:45:31,600 --> 03:45:34,160 I'M NOT SURE HOW TO SOLVE IT. 4871 03:45:34,160 --> 03:45:37,400 >> YOU DON'T NEED SOLUTIONS AND 4872 03:45:37,400 --> 03:45:39,520 WE'LL DO DOWN HERE AND THEN 4873 03:45:39,520 --> 03:45:39,800 VERONIQUE. 4874 03:45:39,800 --> 03:45:41,280 >> WHAT DO WE DO NOW COMMENT 4875 03:45:41,280 --> 03:45:46,480 GOES TO SHY'S QUESTION. 4876 03:45:46,480 --> 03:45:51,840 THERE'S A LOT THE ANSWER IS ALL 4877 03:45:51,840 --> 03:45:52,600 OF THE ABOVE. 4878 03:45:52,600 --> 03:45:56,480 IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE EARLY 4879 03:45:56,480 --> 03:45:59,280 WINS AND THEY'LL BUILD MOMENTUM 4880 03:45:59,280 --> 03:46:01,840 BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE 4881 03:46:01,840 --> 03:46:03,520 LONG-TERM AND WRITING DOWN FLOW 4882 03:46:03,520 --> 03:46:06,840 CHARTS AND USING THE HIGH VALUE, 4883 03:46:06,840 --> 03:46:09,720 LOW RESOURCES, LET'S DO THOSE 4884 03:46:09,720 --> 03:46:11,120 QUICKLY AND PUT THEM ALL 4885 03:46:11,120 --> 03:46:12,400 TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHAT'S THE 4886 03:46:12,400 --> 03:46:15,760 ORDER AND WHAT WE CAN USE AND 4887 03:46:15,760 --> 03:46:20,640 WHAT RESOURCES WE'LL TAKE AND 4888 03:46:20,640 --> 03:46:21,640 PROJECT MANAGEMENT EXERTION. 4889 03:46:21,640 --> 03:46:22,040 >> MARCUS. 4890 03:46:22,040 --> 03:46:23,840 >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A 4891 03:46:23,840 --> 03:46:25,080 VALUES-LED APPROACH BUT THEY 4892 03:46:25,080 --> 03:46:26,800 NEED TO BE VALUES THAT WE ARE ON 4893 03:46:26,800 --> 03:46:32,040 BOARD WITH AS A COMMUNITY RATHER 4894 03:46:32,040 --> 03:46:36,000 THAN AN INDIVIDUAL VALUES AND 4895 03:46:36,000 --> 03:46:38,640 THOSE CAN BE LINKED DIRECTLY TO 4896 03:46:38,640 --> 03:46:39,800 VALUES AND IN TERMS OF TIME 4897 03:46:39,800 --> 03:46:42,960 SCALE, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A 4898 03:46:42,960 --> 03:46:43,640 SERIES OF THINGS. 4899 03:46:43,640 --> 03:46:45,880 WE NEED A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF 4900 03:46:45,880 --> 03:46:49,800 WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT. 4901 03:46:49,800 --> 03:46:53,480 A LOT OF META RESEARCH AND WHERE 4902 03:46:53,480 --> 03:46:55,160 THE FAULTS LIE AND WOULD LIKE A 4903 03:46:55,160 --> 03:46:57,480 VISION OF WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF 4904 03:46:57,480 --> 03:47:02,680 JOURNALS AND THE FUTURE OF 4905 03:47:02,680 --> 03:47:06,120 CAREER PATH HOW TO CREATE THAT 4906 03:47:06,120 --> 03:47:07,400 AND MAP TO WHERE WE ARE FROM 4907 03:47:07,400 --> 03:47:10,120 WHERE WE WANT TO BE AND IT'S NOT 4908 03:47:10,120 --> 03:47:11,520 TRIVIAL AND PROBABLY WILL TAKE 4909 03:47:11,520 --> 03:47:16,400 TIME. 4910 03:47:16,400 --> 03:47:18,800 THERE'S A GOOD QUOTE THAT 4911 03:47:18,800 --> 03:47:19,640 REVOLUTIONS HAPPEN VERY SLOWLY 4912 03:47:19,640 --> 03:47:20,760 AND THEN ALL AT ONCE. 4913 03:47:20,760 --> 03:47:23,200 I THINK THERE'LL BE A TIPPING 4914 03:47:23,200 --> 03:47:25,920 POINT WHERE THINGS WILL SUDDENLY 4915 03:47:25,920 --> 03:47:28,440 CHANGE QUICKLY AND IT FEELS LIKE 4916 03:47:28,440 --> 03:47:29,680 WE'RE APPROACHING THAT. 4917 03:47:29,680 --> 03:47:31,160 I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS 4918 03:47:31,160 --> 03:47:40,000 STUFF 15, 20 YEARS. 4919 03:47:40,000 --> 03:47:45,480 FOR MOST THE TIME I WASN'T 4920 03:47:45,480 --> 03:47:56,000 LISTENED TO AND THE CLAMORING AT 4921 03:47:56,400 --> 03:48:02,040 THE GATE IS LOUDER NOW THAN FIVE 4922 03:48:02,040 --> 03:48:02,920 YEARS AGO. 4923 03:48:02,920 --> 03:48:03,560 >> NAOMI. 4924 03:48:03,560 --> 03:48:09,800 >> I THINK WE'RE IN SUCH A 4925 03:48:09,800 --> 03:48:11,120 COMPLEX ECO SYSTEM ALL THE 4926 03:48:11,120 --> 03:48:12,120 STRATEGIES WE HEARD ABOUT OVER 4927 03:48:12,120 --> 03:48:15,240 THE LAST TWO DAYS CAN PLAY A 4928 03:48:15,240 --> 03:48:16,120 ROLE. 4929 03:48:16,120 --> 03:48:19,160 IN TERMS OF TIME SCALE, WHEN A 4930 03:48:19,160 --> 03:48:21,120 MAJOR FUNDING AGENCY TELLS YOU 4931 03:48:21,120 --> 03:48:22,160 TO DO SOMETHING, INSTITUTIONS 4932 03:48:22,160 --> 03:48:23,760 FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. 4933 03:48:23,760 --> 03:48:28,560 IF THEY SAY YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY 4934 03:48:28,560 --> 03:48:30,440 JANUARY 25, WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW 4935 03:48:30,440 --> 03:48:33,160 TO DO IT BY JANUARY 25. 4936 03:48:33,160 --> 03:48:34,040 IF THERE'S THINGS WE THINK 4937 03:48:34,040 --> 03:48:38,120 SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED, THAT'S A 4938 03:48:38,120 --> 03:48:39,440 LEVER THAT'S EFFECTIVE. 4939 03:48:39,440 --> 03:48:41,680 HOW EFFECTIVE CAN IT BE? 4940 03:48:41,680 --> 03:48:44,840 WELL, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION 4941 03:48:44,840 --> 03:48:47,040 THAT REALLY WE DON'T KNOW THE 4942 03:48:47,040 --> 03:48:48,000 ANSWER TO. 4943 03:48:48,000 --> 03:48:52,760 WHEN NIH MADE THE BIG CHANGES TO 4944 03:48:52,760 --> 03:48:54,560 REQUIRE RIGOR AND 4945 03:48:54,560 --> 03:48:57,080 REPRODUCIBILITY OR THE FOUR 4946 03:48:57,080 --> 03:48:58,560 CATEGORIES OF RIGOR IN EVERY 4947 03:48:58,560 --> 03:49:01,240 GRANT APPLICATION, IF P.I.s WERE 4948 03:49:01,240 --> 03:49:05,720 GETTING FEEDBACK BACK FROM 4949 03:49:05,720 --> 03:49:07,360 REVIEWERS THEN P.I.s WILL MAKE 4950 03:49:07,360 --> 03:49:07,600 CHANGES. 4951 03:49:07,600 --> 03:49:09,200 THAT'S PART OF THE FEEDBACK 4952 03:49:09,200 --> 03:49:11,040 PROCESS THAT WILL CHANGE THE WAY 4953 03:49:11,040 --> 03:49:12,880 THAT PEOPLE -- HOW PEOPLE 4954 03:49:12,880 --> 03:49:14,280 PRIORITIZE AS THEIR THINKING 4955 03:49:14,280 --> 03:49:15,520 ABOUT THEIR SCIENCE. 4956 03:49:15,520 --> 03:49:17,080 THAT MEANS THE REVIEWERS HAVE TO 4957 03:49:17,080 --> 03:49:19,560 BE TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE 4958 03:49:19,560 --> 03:49:21,520 MEANINGFUL FEEDBACK THAT 4959 03:49:21,520 --> 03:49:24,880 ACTUALLY IS HELPFUL RATHER THAN 4960 03:49:24,880 --> 03:49:27,760 NICK PICKY THINGS PEOPLE GET 4961 03:49:27,760 --> 03:49:33,240 ANNOYED BY AND THE OTHER THING I 4962 03:49:33,240 --> 03:49:40,040 WOULD SAY IS AND THEY SAID 4963 03:49:40,040 --> 03:49:40,920 SOMETIMES TO GET SOMETHING DONE 4964 03:49:40,920 --> 03:49:42,120 AT UNIVERSITY YOU HAVE TO WAIT 4965 03:49:42,120 --> 03:49:43,360 FOR SOMEONE TO DIE. 4966 03:49:43,360 --> 03:49:46,120 I HOPE THAT IS NOT THE CASE FOR 4967 03:49:46,120 --> 03:49:52,640 US. 4968 03:49:52,640 --> 03:49:53,520 THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT TAKE 4969 03:49:53,520 --> 03:49:54,120 LONGER THAN OTHERS. 4970 03:49:54,120 --> 03:49:57,280 >> I HAVE TO ADD A POINT BECAUSE 4971 03:49:57,280 --> 03:49:58,440 THAT WAS FRIGHTENING THINKING 4972 03:49:58,440 --> 03:50:07,800 ABOUT DEATH FOR A FEW MOMENTS. 4973 03:50:07,800 --> 03:50:09,000 HAVING STUDIED REVOLUTIONS FOR A 4974 03:50:09,000 --> 03:50:10,600 LONG TIME, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T 4975 03:50:10,600 --> 03:50:21,120 KNOW WHEN THEY ARE HAPPENING. 4976 03:50:23,480 --> 03:50:26,320 THEY CAN BE SUBTLE AND PROFOUND 4977 03:50:26,320 --> 03:50:26,920 AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT 4978 03:50:26,920 --> 03:50:32,240 RECOGNIZING THE MOMENT WE'RE IN 4979 03:50:32,240 --> 03:50:39,360 AND THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE 4980 03:50:39,360 --> 03:50:45,240 MOVING FORWARD AND WAYS TO 4981 03:50:45,240 --> 03:50:48,720 MOBILIZE AND THINK OF A SYSTEM. 4982 03:50:48,720 --> 03:50:49,760 I WANT TO THINK THE PANELISTS 4983 03:50:49,760 --> 03:50:51,440 AND ALL YOU FOR A FANTASTIC SET 4984 03:50:51,440 --> 03:50:52,080 OF QUESTIONS. 4985 03:50:52,080 --> 03:50:56,080 YOU MANAGED TO GET IT TOGETHER 4986 03:50:56,080 --> 03:50:58,120 WHICH IS GREAT. 4987 03:50:58,120 --> 03:51:05,480 THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND OVER TO 4988 03:51:05,480 --> 03:51:15,560 YOU. 4989 03:51:31,680 --> 03:51:33,400 >> SO YOU'RE NOT DONE YET BUT 4990 03:51:33,400 --> 03:51:33,920 GETTING CLOSE. 4991 03:51:33,920 --> 03:51:35,480 IN TERMS OF WRAP-UP WE TALKED 4992 03:51:35,480 --> 03:51:36,640 ABOUT THINGS DONE AT THE LEVEL 4993 03:51:36,640 --> 03:51:37,480 OF THE SYSTEM AND ALL THAT. 4994 03:51:37,480 --> 03:51:43,480 I WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO THIS 4995 03:51:43,480 --> 03:51:43,760 ROOM. 4996 03:51:43,760 --> 03:51:47,360 WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING AND 4997 03:51:47,360 --> 03:51:49,000 PUTTING THE THING TOGETHER WE 4998 03:51:49,000 --> 03:51:50,480 HAD THE DISCUSSION IF WE ALL HAD 4999 03:51:50,480 --> 03:51:52,640 A GREAT MEETING AND GO BACK AND 5000 03:51:52,640 --> 03:51:55,320 DO NOTHING ABOUT IT, WE WILL 5001 03:51:55,320 --> 03:51:56,640 HAVE FAILED BECAUSE WE REALLY 5002 03:51:56,640 --> 03:51:59,520 WANT THINGS TO COME OUT OF THIS 5003 03:51:59,520 --> 03:52:05,520 AND TO BE ACTIONABLE. 5004 03:52:05,520 --> 03:52:07,360 SO WE HAVE ABOUT 20 MINUTES 5005 03:52:07,360 --> 03:52:08,440 REMAINING AND A WANT YOUR 5006 03:52:08,440 --> 03:52:12,600 SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT ARE THE 5007 03:52:12,600 --> 03:52:13,520 CONCRETE THINGS WE CAN DO WHEN 5008 03:52:13,520 --> 03:52:16,000 WE GET OUT OF THIS ROOM TO KEEP 5009 03:52:16,000 --> 03:52:17,600 THE MOMENTUM AND CONVERSATION 5010 03:52:17,600 --> 03:52:20,440 GOING AND GET ACTIONABLE 5011 03:52:20,440 --> 03:52:21,200 INSIGHTS OUT OF THIS. 5012 03:52:21,200 --> 03:52:26,120 I'LL LIST A COUPLE THINGS WE'VE 5013 03:52:26,120 --> 03:52:30,680 ALREADY GRASPED DURING THE 5014 03:52:30,680 --> 03:52:31,720 MEETING AND WHETHER IT'S 5015 03:52:31,720 --> 03:52:41,120 FEEDABLE OR -- FEASIBLE OR NOT 5016 03:52:41,120 --> 03:52:46,080 AND IT'S JUST FOR BRAIN STORMING 5017 03:52:46,080 --> 03:52:48,040 AND GATHERING INFORMATION. 5018 03:52:48,040 --> 03:52:50,120 WE WILL DO A SYNTHESIS OF THE 5019 03:52:50,120 --> 03:52:51,640 IDEAS DISCUSSED HERE AND IN 5020 03:52:51,640 --> 03:52:52,520 PARTICULAR WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN 5021 03:52:52,520 --> 03:52:53,840 THE BREAKOUT SESSIONS. 5022 03:52:53,840 --> 03:53:00,080 WE'LL WORK WITH THE MODERATORS 5023 03:53:00,080 --> 03:53:02,160 MAKE SINCE OF THE STICKY NOTES 5024 03:53:02,160 --> 03:53:06,120 AND RETURNING THIS INTO A USEFUL 5025 03:53:06,120 --> 03:53:09,920 SYNTHESIS WOULD BE WELCOME. 5026 03:53:09,920 --> 03:53:10,960 SOME ARE ASKED ABOUT 5027 03:53:10,960 --> 03:53:15,400 COMMUNICATION CHANNEL FOR PEOPLE 5028 03:53:15,400 --> 03:53:25,960 IN THIS ROOM AND IT WILL SET UP 5029 03:53:37,560 --> 03:53:40,680 A SLACK CHANNEL. 5030 03:53:40,680 --> 03:53:47,520 THERE'S A LACK OF RESOURCES FOR 5031 03:53:47,520 --> 03:53:57,720 TRAINING. 5032 03:54:02,960 --> 03:54:03,840 IF YOU HAVE INTERESTING WAYS TO 5033 03:54:03,840 --> 03:54:05,000 SHARE WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO 5034 03:54:05,000 --> 03:54:08,800 SHARE THAT ON AN OPEN RESOURCE? 5035 03:54:08,800 --> 03:54:10,440 WE HAVE A GOOD SET OF 5036 03:54:10,440 --> 03:54:11,520 VOLUNTEERS. 5037 03:54:11,520 --> 03:54:14,800 I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH TIM TO 5038 03:54:14,800 --> 03:54:20,640 HAVE A REPOSITORY FOR THE 5039 03:54:20,640 --> 03:54:23,520 MATERIAL ANY VOLUNTEERS THAT 5040 03:54:23,520 --> 03:54:27,000 WOULD LIKE TO HELP CURATE THE 5041 03:54:27,000 --> 03:54:28,800 MATERIAL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 5042 03:54:28,800 --> 03:54:29,560 COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU 5043 03:54:29,560 --> 03:54:39,760 HAVE IDEAS. 5044 03:54:41,160 --> 03:54:44,040 >> I LEAD THE PROGRAM CALLED 5045 03:54:44,040 --> 03:54:45,080 RIGOROUS FOUNDATION RESEARCH. 5046 03:54:45,080 --> 03:54:47,520 I THINK SOCIETIES CAN PLAY A 5047 03:54:47,520 --> 03:54:49,200 PUBLIC HEALTH ROLE IN WHAT 5048 03:54:49,200 --> 03:54:50,880 YOU'RE DISCUSSING HERE AS WELL. 5049 03:54:50,880 --> 03:54:54,960 IT'S TOUGH NOW TO BE A 5050 03:54:54,960 --> 03:54:55,760 NEUROSCIENTIST AND NOT KNOW 5051 03:54:55,760 --> 03:54:57,520 ABOUT THE TOPIC. 5052 03:54:57,520 --> 03:54:59,040 MARCUS, I FEEL I'VE BEEN IN THIS 5053 03:54:59,040 --> 03:55:01,000 SPACE A LONG TIME. 5054 03:55:01,000 --> 03:55:03,360 LOOK AT WHAT SFN HAS DONE IN THE 5055 03:55:03,360 --> 03:55:05,560 LAST SIX TO EIGHT YEARS IS 5056 03:55:05,560 --> 03:55:09,400 PROVIDE A LOT OF TRAINING 5057 03:55:09,400 --> 03:55:11,000 MATERIALS AND DISCUSSIONS. 5058 03:55:11,000 --> 03:55:12,920 THEY'RE SOLUTION ORIENTED. 5059 03:55:12,920 --> 03:55:19,120 NOT JUST ABOUT WE'RE HAVING A 5060 03:55:19,120 --> 03:55:19,400 PROBLEM. 5061 03:55:19,400 --> 03:55:23,520 WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET TO 5062 03:55:23,520 --> 03:55:26,120 SOLUTIONS? 5063 03:55:26,120 --> 03:55:28,360 THE TRAINING MATERIALS ARE ALL 5064 03:55:28,360 --> 03:55:30,120 AVAILABLE AND IN NEUROSCIENCE 5065 03:55:30,120 --> 03:55:36,600 THINGS ARE BEING USED WIDELY 5066 03:55:36,600 --> 03:55:46,120 ACROSS THE WORLD. 5067 03:55:46,120 --> 03:55:56,480 I'LL HELP FOR SURE. 5068 03:56:04,240 --> 03:56:05,360 >> ANY COMMENTS IN THE 5069 03:56:05,360 --> 03:56:07,040 MICROPHONE BECAUSE STEVE WE 5070 03:56:07,040 --> 03:56:09,880 COULDN'T HEAR YOU AT THE BACK? 5071 03:56:09,880 --> 03:56:13,960 >> WHAT I MAY KNOW IN 5072 03:56:13,960 --> 03:56:15,360 NEUROSCIENCE IS NOT WHAT ALL 5073 03:56:15,360 --> 03:56:18,480 SOCIETIES COMPLETELY AGREE AND 5074 03:56:18,480 --> 03:56:21,080 WE NEED TO SYNTHESIZE THAT AND 5075 03:56:21,080 --> 03:56:22,760 HAVE THE SOCIETIES WORK TOGETHER 5076 03:56:22,760 --> 03:56:28,920 AND TO BRING THAT TOGETHER. 5077 03:56:28,920 --> 03:56:31,600 THE NIH HAS DONE A GREAT JOB 5078 03:56:31,600 --> 03:56:33,240 LIVING RESOURCES AND IT'S A GRA 5079 03:56:33,240 --> 03:56:38,360 START AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER 5080 03:56:38,360 --> 03:56:40,160 WAY. 5081 03:56:40,160 --> 03:56:41,960 SOCIETIES CAN PLAY AN IMPORTANT 5082 03:56:41,960 --> 03:56:42,440 ROLE BECAUSE THEY'RE 5083 03:56:42,440 --> 03:56:52,000 INTERNATIONAL. 5084 03:56:52,000 --> 03:56:53,840 >> THERE'S RESEARCH AND FUNDING 5085 03:56:53,840 --> 03:56:54,120 RESOURCES. 5086 03:56:54,120 --> 03:56:55,520 A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS I WAS IN 5087 03:56:55,520 --> 03:56:58,080 I SAID IF ONLY SUCH AND SUCH 5088 03:56:58,080 --> 03:56:58,880 EXISTED AND SOMEONE WOULD SAY WE 5089 03:56:58,880 --> 03:57:02,800 HAVE THAT. 5090 03:57:02,800 --> 03:57:05,440 I THINK CONSOLIDATING A LIST OF 5091 03:57:05,440 --> 03:57:06,520 RESOURCES SO PEOPLE WHO HAVE 5092 03:57:06,520 --> 03:57:08,120 DONE A LOT OF HARD WORK TO 5093 03:57:08,120 --> 03:57:10,520 CREATE A RUBE RICK OR FUNDING 5094 03:57:10,520 --> 03:57:11,440 STREAM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO 5095 03:57:11,440 --> 03:57:21,880 ALL FIND OUT ABOUT THOSE. 5096 03:57:21,880 --> 03:57:23,600 >> IN CERTAIN FIELD AND AREAS 5097 03:57:23,600 --> 03:57:27,080 WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT 5098 03:57:27,080 --> 03:57:29,920 CREATE A ONE-STOP SHOP AND NOT 5099 03:57:29,920 --> 03:57:33,680 JUST A LIBRARY, LIBRARIES ARE 5100 03:57:33,680 --> 03:57:35,480 LOVELY WHERE WE STORE STUFF AND 5101 03:57:35,480 --> 03:57:41,320 THINK OF CURATING AND CREATING 5102 03:57:41,320 --> 03:57:44,560 NEW SPACE FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST 5103 03:57:44,560 --> 03:57:46,160 STARTED TO THOSE WHO ARE 5104 03:57:46,160 --> 03:57:48,720 ADVANCED MOVING FORWARD. 5105 03:57:48,720 --> 03:57:50,960 I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF THERE'S THE 5106 03:57:50,960 --> 03:57:52,320 CREATION OF SOMETHING IT MAY 5107 03:57:52,320 --> 03:57:53,840 HAVE CASE STUDIES OR HAVE 5108 03:57:53,840 --> 03:57:59,040 STRATEGIC EXAMPLES OF THINGS 5109 03:57:59,040 --> 03:58:09,560 PEOPLE HAVE DONE SOME OF THE 5110 03:58:10,280 --> 03:58:14,120 STRATEGIC THINKING WILL BE 5111 03:58:14,120 --> 03:58:15,920 BENEFICIAL TO OTHERS. 5112 03:58:15,920 --> 03:58:18,560 GETTING THE CONCRETE SPECIFICS 5113 03:58:18,560 --> 03:58:20,200 WILL BE CRUCIAL AND HOW TO EMBED 5114 03:58:20,200 --> 03:58:22,120 IT IN MY INSTITUTION OR WHAT ARE 5115 03:58:22,120 --> 03:58:23,760 WAYS OTHERS HAVE DONE THIS AND 5116 03:58:23,760 --> 03:58:25,120 ENGAGED WITH OTHER GROUPS AND 5117 03:58:25,120 --> 03:58:26,120 PICKING UP QUESTIONS PEOPLE WERE 5118 03:58:26,120 --> 03:58:36,560 POSING TO THE LAST PANEL. 5119 03:58:38,480 --> 03:58:41,480 ALSO BE READY TO SHARE MATERIAL 5120 03:58:41,480 --> 03:58:42,760 NOT POLISHED AND PERFECT BUT 5121 03:58:42,760 --> 03:58:46,120 WORKED AT YOUR LAB OR DEPARTMENT 5122 03:58:46,120 --> 03:58:55,960 LEVEL OR THINGS LIKE THAT. 5123 03:58:55,960 --> 03:58:59,960 >> I'M FIND -- MINDFUL WE'RE 5124 03:58:59,960 --> 03:59:02,120 HERE WITH THE CONVENERS, THE 5125 03:59:02,120 --> 03:59:03,760 NINDS AND THOSE OF US FROM MANY 5126 03:59:03,760 --> 03:59:06,040 PARTS OF THE WORLD AND MANY 5127 03:59:06,040 --> 03:59:07,440 PLACES THAT HAVE MANY INTERESTS. 5128 03:59:07,440 --> 03:59:10,920 I THINK THAT FRAMES FOR ME THE 5129 03:59:10,920 --> 03:59:12,160 THREE POINTS. 5130 03:59:12,160 --> 03:59:16,080 ONE IS NARRATIVE, THE SECOND IS 5131 03:59:16,080 --> 03:59:18,320 PROGRESSIVENESS OF CONVERSATION 5132 03:59:18,320 --> 03:59:20,840 AND THE THIRD IS TANGIBLE 5133 03:59:20,840 --> 03:59:22,120 ACTION. 5134 03:59:22,120 --> 03:59:29,560 THE NARRATIVE I THINK IS 5135 03:59:29,560 --> 03:59:31,520 IMPORTANT AND THE ETHOS OF 5136 03:59:31,520 --> 03:59:32,160 SCIENCE IS ONE OF CONSTANT 5137 03:59:32,160 --> 03:59:41,560 SELF-IMPROVEMENT. 5138 03:59:41,560 --> 03:59:46,120 ADAM SETH SAID SCIENCE IS THE 5139 03:59:46,120 --> 03:59:49,920 ANECDOTE TO WHAT SUPERSTITION 5140 03:59:49,920 --> 03:59:50,080 IS. 5141 03:59:50,080 --> 03:59:52,520 IT'S NOT A NEW CONVERSATION BUT 5142 03:59:52,520 --> 03:59:55,520 THE FUNDAMENTAL ESSENCE OF 5143 03:59:55,520 --> 03:59:55,720 SCIENCE. 5144 03:59:55,720 --> 03:59:59,560 CHARLES BAB ITCH 1830 PUTS OUT A 5145 03:59:59,560 --> 04:00:02,360 BOOK ON COOKING DATA. 5146 04:00:02,360 --> 04:00:05,440 THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN WHEN BEAR PUT 5147 04:00:05,440 --> 04:00:06,600 OUT A THING 15 YEARS AGO. 5148 04:00:06,600 --> 04:00:10,120 IT GOES BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF 5149 04:00:10,120 --> 04:00:10,600 SCIENCE. 5150 04:00:10,600 --> 04:00:18,600 WE CAN GRAB THAT NARRATIVE AND 5151 04:00:18,600 --> 04:00:20,200 MAY NOT HAVE SOLVED EVERYTHING 5152 04:00:20,200 --> 04:00:21,760 BUT IT'S A TANGIBLE THING DONE 5153 04:00:21,760 --> 04:00:23,560 AND LOOK AT HOW MANY MORE TRIALS 5154 04:00:23,560 --> 04:00:26,320 ARE NOW PREREGISTERED AND HOW 5155 04:00:26,320 --> 04:00:28,600 MANY FEWER END POINTS ARE 5156 04:00:28,600 --> 04:00:29,000 CHANGED. 5157 04:00:29,000 --> 04:00:32,360 THAT'S THE NARRATIVE. 5158 04:00:32,360 --> 04:00:35,120 HAVING GRABBED THAT WE MAY NEED 5159 04:00:35,120 --> 04:00:37,360 TO BRANCH IN TWO WAYS. 5160 04:00:37,360 --> 04:00:38,120 THERE'S A CONVERSATION WHERE 5161 04:00:38,120 --> 04:00:40,440 WE'VE GONE FROM MENTORING TO 5162 04:00:40,440 --> 04:00:51,000 DIVERSITY TO INCENTIVES TO AND 5163 04:00:56,920 --> 04:00:59,800 TO THINK NINDS IS HERE, WHAT 5164 04:00:59,800 --> 04:01:01,520 COULD NINDS DO THEY COULD OWN 5165 04:01:01,520 --> 04:01:05,560 THAT THEY COULD PUT THEIR MARK 5166 04:01:05,560 --> 04:01:07,960 IN AND SAY WE DID THAT WE DID 5167 04:01:07,960 --> 04:01:09,360 THAT AND WE MADE A DIFFERENCE 5168 04:01:09,360 --> 04:01:10,880 AND IT'S ONE THING MA MADE 5169 04:01:10,880 --> 04:01:13,800 SCIENCE BETTER, IT'S CONCRETE 5170 04:01:13,800 --> 04:01:16,880 AND BY THE WAY, OTHERS COULD 5171 04:01:16,880 --> 04:01:20,040 FOLLOW US AND DO BETTER AND 5172 04:01:20,040 --> 04:01:23,360 NINDS CAN DO NINDS-FUNDED 5173 04:01:23,360 --> 04:01:23,920 STUDIES. 5174 04:01:23,920 --> 04:01:24,880 A CRON CREASE TANGIBLE THING 5175 04:01:24,880 --> 04:01:27,280 THAT HAS THE REST OF US ENGAGE 5176 04:01:27,280 --> 04:01:28,680 IN THE BIG DIALOGUE TO PULL 5177 04:01:28,680 --> 04:01:31,080 FORWARD THE NEW NUG ELTS OF 5178 04:01:31,080 --> 04:01:32,600 IDEAS WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF YET 5179 04:01:32,600 --> 04:01:37,320 THAT NINDS CAN SAY ONE THING, DO 5180 04:01:37,320 --> 04:01:40,160 ONE THING AND FOLLOW UP ON 5181 04:01:40,160 --> 04:01:44,360 NINDS-FUNDED DATA AND GET RFPs 5182 04:01:44,360 --> 04:01:46,120 TOUT HIRE PROFESSIONALS TO 5183 04:01:46,120 --> 04:01:51,040 ENGAGE IN SPOT CHECKING AND 5184 04:01:51,040 --> 04:01:52,400 QUANTIFYING THE RIGOR OF THOSE 5185 04:01:52,400 --> 04:01:54,640 STUDIES AND PUTTING OUT METRIC 5186 04:01:54,640 --> 04:01:59,240 ON HOW WELL NINDS-FUNDED STUDIES 5187 04:01:59,240 --> 04:01:59,520 ARE DOING. 5188 04:01:59,520 --> 04:02:01,400 THAT GIVES THE TANGIBLE CONCRETE 5189 04:02:01,400 --> 04:02:03,080 THING TO POINT TO AND WE DID 5190 04:02:03,080 --> 04:02:05,000 SOMETHING AND HOPEFULLY MAKE IT 5191 04:02:05,000 --> 04:02:06,720 BETTER WHILE WE CONTINUE THE 5192 04:02:06,720 --> 04:02:07,920 BROAD CONVERSATION THAT'S 5193 04:02:07,920 --> 04:02:13,000 EQUALLY ESSENTIAL. 5194 04:02:13,000 --> 04:02:20,400 >> DEFINITELY. 5195 04:02:20,400 --> 04:02:22,400 >> THE FUNDING AGENCIES ARE 5196 04:02:22,400 --> 04:02:25,240 ASKING LIKE INSTITUTIONS, 5197 04:02:25,240 --> 04:02:28,760 PUBLISHERS, EVERYBODY REACTS TO 5198 04:02:28,760 --> 04:02:28,960 THAT. 5199 04:02:28,960 --> 04:02:34,120 IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE LEVER 5200 04:02:34,120 --> 04:02:38,520 IN MIND. 5201 04:02:38,520 --> 04:02:41,240 I HAD A RELATED QUESTION. 5202 04:02:41,240 --> 04:02:46,640 I THINK NINDS HAS DONE A LOT OR 5203 04:02:46,640 --> 04:02:52,800 A FEW PEOPLE WITHIN THAT HAVE 5204 04:02:52,800 --> 04:02:53,640 DONE A LOT AND WHAT OTHER 5205 04:02:53,640 --> 04:02:54,640 INSTITUTES ARE LOOKING AT THE 5206 04:02:54,640 --> 04:02:58,120 PROBLEM AND DO WE HAVE THE WIDE 5207 04:02:58,120 --> 04:03:00,880 BRIDGES BETWEEN INSTITUTES AT 5208 04:03:00,880 --> 04:03:02,440 NIH WHERE SOME COLLECTIVE ACTION 5209 04:03:02,440 --> 04:03:12,640 IS POSSIBLE? 5210 04:03:13,480 --> 04:03:14,840 >> THERE'S DIFFERENT ENTITIES 5211 04:03:14,840 --> 04:03:16,520 AND DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING 5212 04:03:16,520 --> 04:03:17,600 THINGS AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY 5213 04:03:17,600 --> 04:03:19,080 KNOW WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING. 5214 04:03:19,080 --> 04:03:21,400 BUT IF THEY ARE DOING IT, 5215 04:03:21,400 --> 04:03:27,120 THEY'RE KIND OF DOING IT 5216 04:03:27,120 --> 04:03:27,360 QUIETLY. 5217 04:03:27,360 --> 04:03:30,560 THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE THEY 5218 04:03:30,560 --> 04:03:30,840 DOING? 5219 04:03:30,840 --> 04:03:32,320 NINDS CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH 5220 04:03:32,320 --> 04:03:35,640 BECAUSE THE MISSION OF NINDS IS 5221 04:03:35,640 --> 04:03:38,560 TO ADVANCE NEUROLOGICAL 5222 04:03:38,560 --> 04:03:41,600 DISORDERS AND STROKE AND NOT 5223 04:03:41,600 --> 04:03:46,120 CANCER RESEARCH AND NOT OTHER 5224 04:03:46,120 --> 04:03:47,240 THINGS BUT THE QUALITY OF 5225 04:03:47,240 --> 04:03:49,720 RESEARCH IS CENTRAL TO 5226 04:03:49,720 --> 04:03:50,120 EVERYTHING. 5227 04:03:50,120 --> 04:03:54,880 SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN 5228 04:03:54,880 --> 04:03:57,120 FORTUNATE TO HAVE GOTTEN SUPPORT 5229 04:03:57,120 --> 04:03:58,680 TO WORKSHOPS SUCH AS THIS. 5230 04:03:58,680 --> 04:04:03,880 THERE'S A LIMIT TO WHAT NINDS 5231 04:04:03,880 --> 04:04:07,640 CAN DO AND WE NEED TO THINK MORE 5232 04:04:07,640 --> 04:04:09,200 BROADLY AND MAYBE IT HAS TO GO 5233 04:04:09,200 --> 04:04:18,280 TO CENTRAL NIH OR SOMETHING. 5234 04:04:18,280 --> 04:04:20,520 >> EVERY TIME I ATTEND THESE 5235 04:04:20,520 --> 04:04:23,320 WORK SHOPS I GET REMINDED WHAT 5236 04:04:23,320 --> 04:04:26,880 ENORMOUS A PROBLEM IS. 5237 04:04:26,880 --> 04:04:28,800 THERE WAS A CONFERENCE ON THE 5238 04:04:28,800 --> 04:04:31,840 SAME TOPIC AND A LOT OF ACADEMIC 5239 04:04:31,840 --> 04:04:34,120 LEADERS WERE AT THAT WORKSHOP 5240 04:04:34,120 --> 04:04:38,840 AND AT THE END OF THE SESSION IT 5241 04:04:38,840 --> 04:04:39,880 WAS THE SAME QUESTION, WHAT ARE 5242 04:04:39,880 --> 04:04:43,160 WE EACH GOING TO DO AND I'LL 5243 04:04:43,160 --> 04:04:46,520 REITERATE WHAT I VOLUNTEERED TO 5244 04:04:46,520 --> 04:04:50,840 DO AND VOLUNTEERED TO WORK 5245 04:04:50,840 --> 04:04:53,520 WITHIN MY COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE 5246 04:04:53,520 --> 04:04:55,280 A COUNCIL OF GRADUATE STUDIES 5247 04:04:55,280 --> 04:05:00,920 AND PSYCHOLOGY AND HAVE A LIST 5248 04:05:00,920 --> 04:05:03,760 SERVE TO RUN A WORKSHOP ON 5249 04:05:03,760 --> 04:05:05,600 POLICY CHANGE AND I'LL REITERATE 5250 04:05:05,600 --> 04:05:08,640 THAT NOW AND VOLUNTEER MYSELF TO 5251 04:05:08,640 --> 04:05:09,720 WORK WITHIN MY COMMUNITY TO 5252 04:05:09,720 --> 04:05:11,520 INSTITUTE CHANGE IN AS MANY 5253 04:05:11,520 --> 04:05:12,720 DEPARTMENTS AS WANT TO SIGN UP. 5254 04:05:12,720 --> 04:05:15,560 SO FAR THREE OR FOUR BUT I 5255 04:05:15,560 --> 04:05:16,440 HAVEN'T ADVERTISED WELL. 5256 04:05:16,440 --> 04:05:17,640 >> THANK YOU. 5257 04:05:17,640 --> 04:05:26,880 THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THAT. 5258 04:05:26,880 --> 04:05:29,520 >> WE HEARD PROMISING THINGS ON 5259 04:05:29,520 --> 04:05:32,160 WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE U.K. 5260 04:05:32,160 --> 04:05:34,120 REPRODUCIBILITY NETWORK AND 5261 04:05:34,120 --> 04:05:38,120 ITALIAN AND AUSTRALIAN. 5262 04:05:38,120 --> 04:05:38,760 WHAT ABOUT A 5263 04:05:38,760 --> 04:05:41,600 U.S. REPRODUCIBILITY NETWORK? 5264 04:05:41,600 --> 04:05:46,160 IS THERE A REGIONAL 5265 04:05:46,160 --> 04:05:46,920 REPRODUCIBILITY NETWORK? 5266 04:05:46,920 --> 04:05:48,720 IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO 5267 04:05:48,720 --> 04:05:59,040 LOOK FURTHER INTO? 5268 04:06:01,720 --> 04:06:03,360 WE'LL SEND A SURVEY AFTER THE 5269 04:06:03,360 --> 04:06:06,120 MEETING TO GET SPEEDBACK ON THE 5270 04:06:06,120 --> 04:06:08,080 ORGANIZATION OF THE MEETING AND 5271 04:06:08,080 --> 04:06:09,160 LEARN ABOUT BECAUSE WE'VE 5272 04:06:09,160 --> 04:06:10,120 EXPERIMENTED WITH A NUMBER OF 5273 04:06:10,120 --> 04:06:11,160 THINGS AS WELL AND PERHAPS WE 5274 04:06:11,160 --> 04:06:12,960 CAN ADD THAT QUESTION IN THERE 5275 04:06:12,960 --> 04:06:18,640 ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE VALUE OF 5276 04:06:18,640 --> 04:06:28,960 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 5277 04:06:30,000 --> 04:06:32,080 >> THIS IS HOW IT STARTED IN THE 5278 04:06:32,080 --> 04:06:34,120 U.K. 5279 04:06:34,120 --> 04:06:41,920 MANY ELEMENTS WERE IN PLACE AND 5280 04:06:41,920 --> 04:06:43,360 THEY'VE SPOKE TO THE OTHER 5281 04:06:43,360 --> 04:06:45,600 REPRESENTS AT OTHER NETWORKS BUT 5282 04:06:45,600 --> 04:06:49,000 THERE'S VALUE IN HAVING A COMMON 5283 04:06:49,000 --> 04:06:50,400 IDENTITY SO WE'RE SEEN AS A 5284 04:06:50,400 --> 04:06:52,000 COMMUNITY AND THAT THEN GIVES A 5285 04:06:52,000 --> 04:06:54,840 BIGGER VOICE WHEN WE SPEAK TO 5286 04:06:54,840 --> 04:06:56,760 FUNDERS AND SUPER NATIONAL 5287 04:06:56,760 --> 04:06:58,080 AGENCIES LIKE THE EUROPEAN 5288 04:06:58,080 --> 04:06:58,760 COMMISSION, FOR EXAMPLE. 5289 04:06:58,760 --> 04:07:00,080 THAT PART OF IT IS STILL 5290 04:07:00,080 --> 04:07:05,280 SOMETHING WE CAN IMPROVE ON. 5291 04:07:05,280 --> 04:07:11,600 >> AND THE INTERPRETABILITY 5292 04:07:11,600 --> 04:07:11,800 PART. 5293 04:07:11,800 --> 04:07:13,920 I THINK A LOT OF ANYTHING WE 5294 04:07:13,920 --> 04:07:16,400 PROPOSE WILL COST TIME OR MONEY 5295 04:07:16,400 --> 04:07:19,200 OR LABOR WHICH MONEY CAN PAY FOR 5296 04:07:19,200 --> 04:07:21,360 SO I'D LIKE TO THROW OUT AN IDEA 5297 04:07:21,360 --> 04:07:23,640 TO GENERATE MONEY WHICH IS WE 5298 04:07:23,640 --> 04:07:27,640 ALL REFUSE TO PAY APCs FOR ANY 5299 04:07:27,640 --> 04:07:28,400 FOR-PROFIT PUBLISHERS AND 5300 04:07:28,400 --> 04:07:31,120 RECOVER ALL THAT MONEY AND PUT 5301 04:07:31,120 --> 04:07:41,680 IT INTO RESEARCH RIGOR INSTEAD. 5302 04:07:51,320 --> 04:07:53,800 >> I THINK GOING OFF DAVID'S 5303 04:07:53,800 --> 04:07:56,560 COMMENT I APPRECIATE TAKING THE 5304 04:07:56,560 --> 04:07:58,200 NARRATIVE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S 5305 04:07:58,200 --> 04:08:01,520 TANGIBLE THINGS AND HAVE SHORT 5306 04:08:01,520 --> 04:08:03,440 TANGIBLE AND LONG-TERM VISIONS 5307 04:08:03,440 --> 04:08:05,080 BECAUSE IT'S SO COMPLEX. 5308 04:08:05,080 --> 04:08:06,880 WHAT I GET REMINDED OF IS YOU 5309 04:08:06,880 --> 04:08:08,360 DON'T NEED TO WORRY SO MUCH 5310 04:08:08,360 --> 04:08:10,160 ABOUT THE BIG THING JUST START 5311 04:08:10,160 --> 04:08:12,720 SMALL THINGS AND SEE IF IT HAS 5312 04:08:12,720 --> 04:08:12,920 LEGS. 5313 04:08:12,920 --> 04:08:14,680 THERE'S A WANT ADD, WHO IS 5314 04:08:14,680 --> 04:08:19,520 WILLING TO TRY THINGS IS I THINK 5315 04:08:19,520 --> 04:08:20,480 JUST AS IMPORTANT. 5316 04:08:20,480 --> 04:08:21,120 THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE 5317 04:08:21,120 --> 04:08:23,120 SAYING I HAVE IDEAS BUT I'M NOT 5318 04:08:23,120 --> 04:08:23,880 IN THE POSITION BECAUSE I NEED 5319 04:08:23,880 --> 04:08:26,240 OTHERS TO HELP ME. 5320 04:08:26,240 --> 04:08:28,760 THERE'S -- I'M WONDERING HOW 5321 04:08:28,760 --> 04:08:29,920 BEST TO CATALYZE THAT BECAUSE 5322 04:08:29,920 --> 04:08:33,240 YOU DO MATCH MAKING TO SAY I'M 5323 04:08:33,240 --> 04:08:34,880 AT AN INSTITUTION AND I KNOW 5324 04:08:34,880 --> 04:08:35,880 WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WILLING TO 5325 04:08:35,880 --> 04:08:42,560 ENTERTAIN THAT SO LET'S TALK. 5326 04:08:42,560 --> 04:08:43,840 AND OTHERS ARE AN EARLY CAREER 5327 04:08:43,840 --> 04:08:45,120 RESEARCHER AND WILLING TO TALK 5328 04:08:45,120 --> 04:08:47,640 AND THAT MAY GO A LONG WAY TO 5329 04:08:47,640 --> 04:08:49,240 PILOT AND SPARK IDEAS. 5330 04:08:49,240 --> 04:08:53,640 THERE'S IDEAS IT'S JUST MATCH 5331 04:08:53,640 --> 04:08:57,160 MAKING WE NEED TO DO. 5332 04:08:57,160 --> 04:09:00,360 LET'S PROTOTYPE IT AND FIT 5333 04:09:00,360 --> 04:09:02,120 FAILS, LET'S LEARN AND TRY 5334 04:09:02,120 --> 04:09:12,240 AGAIN. 5335 04:09:14,200 --> 04:09:15,880 >> I WOULD LIKE TO WORK OUT WHAT 5336 04:09:15,880 --> 04:09:17,960 THE TOP GUIDELINES WOULD BE FOR 5337 04:09:17,960 --> 04:09:18,160 RIGOR. 5338 04:09:18,160 --> 04:09:21,720 IT'S COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES. 5339 04:09:21,720 --> 04:09:24,120 IF WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE A 5340 04:09:24,120 --> 04:09:25,960 PATHWAY FOR INSTITUTIONS, FOR 5341 04:09:25,960 --> 04:09:27,880 EXAMPLE, TO FOCUS ON RIGOR, WHAT 5342 04:09:27,880 --> 04:09:29,520 WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE OR A 5343 04:09:29,520 --> 04:09:32,080 RESEARCH GROUP AND SO ON SO IT'S 5344 04:09:32,080 --> 04:09:33,800 NOT YOU HAVE TO DIVE INTO A 5345 04:09:33,800 --> 04:09:35,440 MILLION RESOURCES, YOU HAVE AN 5346 04:09:35,440 --> 04:09:36,600 ARCHITECTURE TO WORK FROM AND 5347 04:09:36,600 --> 04:09:41,680 FIND RESOURCES THAT APPLY TO 5348 04:09:41,680 --> 04:09:48,640 YOUR DISCIPLINE. 5349 04:09:48,640 --> 04:09:51,080 I THINK WE'RE ALSO ALL SEEDS AND 5350 04:09:51,080 --> 04:09:53,640 WE MIGHT EACH THINK OF HOW TO DO 5351 04:09:53,640 --> 04:09:54,920 THAT AND MIKE JUST GAVE AN 5352 04:09:54,920 --> 04:09:56,320 EXAMPLE AND FOR ME THAT MIGHT BE 5353 04:09:56,320 --> 04:09:58,920 GOING BACK AND TALKING TO MY 5354 04:09:58,920 --> 04:10:00,760 RESEARCH OFFICE AND TRYING TO 5355 04:10:00,760 --> 04:10:03,160 ORGANIZE A CONFERENCE ON THIS TO 5356 04:10:03,160 --> 04:10:08,000 GET OTHER PEOPLE INTERESTED IN 5357 04:10:08,000 --> 04:10:16,400 MY INSTITUTION. 5358 04:10:16,400 --> 04:10:19,280 >> THE TOPIC DOESN'T TRANSLATE 5359 04:10:19,280 --> 04:10:21,280 NICELY BUT THEY'RE ON TO 5360 04:10:21,280 --> 04:10:23,280 SOMETHING AND THERE'S A VERY 5361 04:10:23,280 --> 04:10:23,880 USEFUL ROAD MAP AND DEVELOPMENT 5362 04:10:23,880 --> 04:10:34,000 THERE. 5363 04:10:35,720 --> 04:10:38,120 >> WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 5364 04:10:38,120 --> 04:10:40,000 SYMPTOMS AND SYMPTOMS OF A 5365 04:10:40,000 --> 04:10:41,120 DISEASE. 5366 04:10:41,120 --> 04:10:42,040 THERE'S MERIT IN TREATING 5367 04:10:42,040 --> 04:10:42,680 SYMPTOMS THAT MAKES THE PATIENT 5368 04:10:42,680 --> 04:10:49,120 FEEL BETTER. 5369 04:10:49,120 --> 04:10:50,600 I WOULD ARGUE THERE'S A ROOT 5370 04:10:50,600 --> 04:10:54,680 CAUSE AND DISEASE THAT NEEDS TO 5371 04:10:54,680 --> 04:10:56,840 BE TREATED AND THE ROOT CAUSE OF 5372 04:10:56,840 --> 04:10:58,080 THE SYMPTOMS WE'VE BEEN TALKING 5373 04:10:58,080 --> 04:11:01,880 ABOUT HAS TO DO WITH RESEARCH 5374 04:11:01,880 --> 04:11:03,440 AND HOW THEIR PRODUCTS ARE 5375 04:11:03,440 --> 04:11:13,920 EVALUATED AND INCENTIVIZED. 5376 04:11:14,200 --> 04:11:17,640 AND THIS WILL HAVE THE LARGEST 5377 04:11:17,640 --> 04:11:18,000 EFFECT. 5378 04:11:18,000 --> 04:11:19,360 IN FACT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS 5379 04:11:19,360 --> 04:11:23,640 AND I JUST RECENTLY STUDIED 5380 04:11:23,640 --> 04:11:26,080 APPROXIMATELY 20 MANIFESTOS, 5381 04:11:26,080 --> 04:11:31,880 RECOMMENDATIONS, GUIDELINES, 5382 04:11:31,880 --> 04:11:35,640 WHATEVER FROM THE EUROPEAN UNION 5383 04:11:35,640 --> 04:11:37,520 YOU NAME IT. 5384 04:11:37,520 --> 04:11:40,760 IT SEEMS TO ME THE WHOLE OPEN 5385 04:11:40,760 --> 04:11:45,880 SCIENCE DISCUSSION, HOW DO WE 5386 04:11:45,880 --> 04:11:49,160 GET TO MAKING SCIENCE MORE HAS 5387 04:11:49,160 --> 04:11:49,920 SHIFTED TO THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE 5388 04:11:49,920 --> 04:11:52,400 THEY'RE ALL FOCUSSING ON IT NOW. 5389 04:11:52,400 --> 04:11:53,120 IT'S GOOD NEWS. 5390 04:11:53,120 --> 04:11:53,800 I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD 5391 04:11:53,800 --> 04:12:03,840 DO. 5392 04:12:03,840 --> 04:12:05,640 I'M A BIT DISAPPOINTED WE 5393 04:12:05,640 --> 04:12:07,240 HAVEN'T SOLVED THIS BECAUSE THIS 5394 04:12:07,240 --> 04:12:07,920 WOULD TAKE CARE OF MUCH OF THE 5395 04:12:07,920 --> 04:12:10,120 REST. 5396 04:12:10,120 --> 04:12:17,680 >> THANK YOU. 5397 04:12:17,680 --> 04:12:20,080 >> WE NEED TO MEET AGAIN AND 5398 04:12:20,080 --> 04:12:25,880 WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE ON AN 5399 04:12:25,880 --> 04:12:31,640 OPTIMISTIC NOTE THIS WAS BY FAR 5400 04:12:31,640 --> 04:12:36,840 AT AN EARLIER STAGE DISCUSSION. 5401 04:12:36,840 --> 04:12:40,720 I LIKE HOW THE DISCUSSION 5402 04:12:40,720 --> 04:12:44,520 EVOLVED AND LOOKING AT THE 5403 04:12:44,520 --> 04:12:46,160 NETWORKS INDIVIDUALS HAVE. 5404 04:12:46,160 --> 04:12:48,320 IT'S AT A CRITICAL STEP. 5405 04:12:48,320 --> 04:12:50,360 WE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS HOW TO 5406 04:12:50,360 --> 04:12:55,680 EXPAND THE NETWORKS AND EACH HAS 5407 04:12:55,680 --> 04:12:58,560 A NETWORK. 5408 04:12:58,560 --> 04:13:01,000 I HAVE THREE NETWORKS I CAN 5409 04:13:01,000 --> 04:13:01,800 CONTRIBUTE. 5410 04:13:01,800 --> 04:13:03,600 LET'S JUST CONNECT AND THE 5411 04:13:03,600 --> 04:13:05,680 SURVEY OF GETTING THAT TOGETHER 5412 04:13:05,680 --> 04:13:08,480 AND MARCUS I'M GOING TO HARASS 5413 04:13:08,480 --> 04:13:13,440 YOU BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT 5414 04:13:13,440 --> 04:13:19,480 JOINING YOUR NETWORK AND I THINK 5415 04:13:19,480 --> 04:13:23,480 WE HAVE THE POWER TO CATALYZE 5416 04:13:23,480 --> 04:13:25,360 AND THE TIME IS NOW AND WE COULD 5417 04:13:25,360 --> 04:13:27,080 HAVE STEPS TO GO AND I LOVE THE 5418 04:13:27,080 --> 04:13:28,800 COMMUNITY THAT DEVELOPED 5419 04:13:28,800 --> 04:13:29,280 TOGETHER. 5420 04:13:29,280 --> 04:13:30,200 I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR 5421 04:13:30,200 --> 04:13:34,240 CONTRIBUTING TO ALL OF THIS. 5422 04:13:34,240 --> 04:13:35,680 >> THANK YOU. 5423 04:13:35,680 --> 04:13:42,360 >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. 5424 04:13:42,360 --> 04:13:44,720 >> I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO PUT 5425 04:13:44,720 --> 04:13:46,120 OUT SOMETHING VERY TANGIBLE AT 5426 04:13:46,120 --> 04:13:47,880 THE END OF THIS MEETING. 5427 04:13:47,880 --> 04:13:49,800 I'D LOVE FOR US TO MEET AGAIN 5428 04:13:49,800 --> 04:13:51,680 AND KEEP CONNECTED. 5429 04:13:51,680 --> 04:13:53,000 WE'RE NOW IN THE ERA THAT WE'RE 5430 04:13:53,000 --> 04:13:59,160 NOT AFRAID ANY MORE OF VIRTUAL 5431 04:13:59,160 --> 04:14:03,760 MEETINGS SO CONTINUE BUT I FOUND 5432 04:14:03,760 --> 04:14:06,440 IT POWERFUL TO PUT OUT A PAPER 5433 04:14:06,440 --> 04:14:09,000 LIKE AN OPINION PIECE, HOW CAN 5434 04:14:09,000 --> 04:14:11,680 WE GET THINGS TOGETHER AND SHARE 5435 04:14:11,680 --> 04:14:12,880 RESOURCES MAY BE A GOOD START 5436 04:14:12,880 --> 04:14:14,280 POINT TO WORK TOGETHER AND MAY 5437 04:14:14,280 --> 04:14:17,560 BE SEPARATE WORKING GROUPS BUT 5438 04:14:17,560 --> 04:14:22,480 BRING AN ACTUAL PAPER, SOMETHING 5439 04:14:22,480 --> 04:14:26,160 THAT THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY 5440 04:14:26,160 --> 04:14:28,280 CAN SEE THE INVESTMENT OF ALL OF 5441 04:14:28,280 --> 04:14:29,680 US IN THE CONCEPT. 5442 04:14:29,680 --> 04:14:30,040 JUST A THOUGHT. 5443 04:14:30,040 --> 04:14:40,280 >> THANK YOU. 5444 04:14:50,200 --> 04:14:56,240 >> I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE 5445 04:14:56,240 --> 04:14:57,720 HAVE AGENCY HERE. 5446 04:14:57,720 --> 04:14:59,680 AND IT WAS MENTIONED WE'RE 5447 04:14:59,680 --> 04:15:01,480 FORCING GRADUATE STUDENTS OR THE 5448 04:15:01,480 --> 04:15:03,760 SYSTEM IS FORCING GRADUATE 5449 04:15:03,760 --> 04:15:05,920 STUDENTS TO DO THINGS THEY KNOW 5450 04:15:05,920 --> 04:15:06,760 ARE WRONG. 5451 04:15:06,760 --> 04:15:09,400 YOU DON'T HAVE TO FINISH A PH.D. 5452 04:15:09,400 --> 04:15:11,680 YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY 5453 04:15:11,680 --> 04:15:16,720 WORK IN RESEARCH. 5454 04:15:16,720 --> 04:15:18,120 THAT'S EASILY SAID FROM MY POINT 5455 04:15:18,120 --> 04:15:18,880 OF VIEW. 5456 04:15:18,880 --> 04:15:23,360 NO ONE'S FORCING US TO DO THINGS 5457 04:15:23,360 --> 04:15:24,920 THAT ARE WRONG AND WE DON'T 5458 04:15:24,920 --> 04:15:29,560 ACCEPT THAT WHEN IT COMES TO 5459 04:15:29,560 --> 04:15:30,120 PLAGIARISM. 5460 04:15:30,120 --> 04:15:33,160 WE WOULDN'T SAY WE WERE FORCED 5461 04:15:33,160 --> 04:15:34,040 TO PLAGIARIZE AND WE DON'T 5462 04:15:34,040 --> 04:15:35,360 ACCEPT THAT AND THEREFORE WE 5463 04:15:35,360 --> 04:15:36,480 DON'T DO THAT. 5464 04:15:36,480 --> 04:15:45,960 WE'RE CAREFUL NOT TO DO THAT. 5465 04:15:45,960 --> 04:15:47,880 THE COST OF PLAGIARISM SEEM 5466 04:15:47,880 --> 04:15:49,200 DIFFERENT TO THE BAD PRACTICES 5467 04:15:49,200 --> 04:15:56,280 WE'VE SORT OF ACCEPTED AS 5468 04:15:56,280 --> 04:16:01,680 QUESTIONABLE THOUGH THEY'RE 5469 04:16:01,680 --> 04:16:03,000 QUITE BAD SO AGENCY. 5470 04:16:03,000 --> 04:16:05,680 >> MARCUS AND ULLI AND THEN 5471 04:16:05,680 --> 04:16:09,680 WE'LL HAVE TO CLOSE. 5472 04:16:09,680 --> 04:16:10,920 THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO 5473 04:16:10,920 --> 04:16:11,240 COLLECTIVELY. 5474 04:16:11,240 --> 04:16:12,400 OUR CULTURE IS US. 5475 04:16:12,400 --> 04:16:13,800 WE'RE THE PEOPLE WHO REVIEW 5476 04:16:13,800 --> 04:16:15,240 PAPERS AND GRANTS AND MAKE 5477 04:16:15,240 --> 04:16:15,600 DECISIONS. 5478 04:16:15,600 --> 04:16:17,680 IT'S ALL US. 5479 04:16:17,680 --> 04:16:20,040 IF WE CHANGE COLLECTIVELY AND 5480 04:16:20,040 --> 04:16:21,960 UNIONIZE BY NOT PAYING 5481 04:16:21,960 --> 04:16:22,880 PROCESSING CHARGES AND 5482 04:16:22,880 --> 04:16:23,600 REDISCOVERING OUR SENSE OF 5483 04:16:23,600 --> 04:16:25,720 AGENCY AND PUSHING BACK AGAINST 5484 04:16:25,720 --> 04:16:28,600 THE LEARNED HELPLESSNESS THAT 5485 04:16:28,600 --> 04:16:30,360 EMPOWERED HIERARCHY AND ACADEMIA 5486 04:16:30,360 --> 04:16:33,840 CREATE WE CAN ACHIEVE A GREAT 5487 04:16:33,840 --> 04:16:39,200 DEAL AND WE ALSO NEED TO BE MORE 5488 04:16:39,200 --> 04:16:44,360 IMAGINATIVE AND THIS IS A 5489 04:16:44,360 --> 04:16:46,400 CHALLENGE TO YOU TO SOME EXTENT 5490 04:16:46,400 --> 04:16:47,880 WHAT IS THE ROLE OF JOURNALS IN 5491 04:16:47,880 --> 04:16:48,880 THE FUTURE VISION OF WHAT 5492 04:16:48,880 --> 04:16:50,640 SCIENCE AND ACADEMIA SHOULD LOOK 5493 04:16:50,640 --> 04:16:51,600 LIKE? 5494 04:16:51,600 --> 04:16:53,680 THE IDEA WE DISSEMINATE 5495 04:16:53,680 --> 04:16:55,840 KNOWLEDGE USING A 400-YEAR-OLD 5496 04:16:55,840 --> 04:16:57,520 MODEL STILL PREDICATED ON THE 5497 04:16:57,520 --> 04:17:01,480 ASSUMPTION WE DON'T PUBLISH 5498 04:17:01,480 --> 04:17:05,520 ONLINE AND CREATE PDFs AND POST 5499 04:17:05,520 --> 04:17:07,920 ONLINE AND THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS 5500 04:17:07,920 --> 04:17:10,120 DATE AND NEED TO LOOK AT THE 5501 04:17:10,120 --> 04:17:12,520 FUNCTION OF JOURNALS ARE IN THE 5502 04:17:12,520 --> 04:17:14,160 NEW FUTURE WE WANT TO MOVE 5503 04:17:14,160 --> 04:17:17,720 TOWARDS. 5504 04:17:17,720 --> 04:17:26,120 >> ABSOLUTELY. 5505 04:17:26,120 --> 04:17:28,160 >> I WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE THE 5506 04:17:28,160 --> 04:17:29,720 IDEA OF ANOTHER PAPER. 5507 04:17:29,720 --> 04:17:31,120 WE HAD SO MANY PAPERS. 5508 04:17:31,120 --> 04:17:41,520 WHO'S GOING READ THEM? 5509 04:17:47,160 --> 04:17:48,760 >> I'VE HEARD INTERESTING 5510 04:17:48,760 --> 04:17:53,720 ACTIVITIES AND STUFF I'VE NOT 5511 04:17:53,720 --> 04:18:03,400 KNOWN BEFORE TO MENTION HE'LL 5512 04:18:03,400 --> 04:18:04,560 -- HELIOS AND I RESEARCH SOME 5513 04:18:04,560 --> 04:18:06,120 THINGS THAT ARE EXTREMELY 5514 04:18:06,120 --> 04:18:10,120 HELPFUL. 5515 04:18:10,120 --> 04:18:12,440 MY VOTE WOULD BE TO PUT AN 5516 04:18:12,440 --> 04:18:15,680 EFFORT INTO COLLECTING THE 5517 04:18:15,680 --> 04:18:19,160 THINGS THE RIGOR CHAMPION 5518 04:18:19,160 --> 04:18:20,280 ACTIVITIES BECAUSE IT'S USEFUL 5519 04:18:20,280 --> 04:18:23,560 IN OUR DAILY WORK. 5520 04:18:23,560 --> 04:18:25,480 IF I CAN POINT TO OTHERS DOING 5521 04:18:25,480 --> 04:18:31,240 SIMILAR OR BETTER THINGS THIS IS 5522 04:18:31,240 --> 04:18:34,640 EXTREMELY HELPFUL. 5523 04:18:34,640 --> 04:18:39,840 BUT NOT ANOTHER PAPER. 5524 04:18:39,840 --> 04:18:46,120 >> CAN I SECOND THAT IN THIS 5525 04:18:46,120 --> 04:18:53,160 COVID ERA STILL SEEM TO STILL BE 5526 04:18:53,160 --> 04:18:55,360 IN AND ARE THERE OUTPUTS THAT 5527 04:18:55,360 --> 04:18:58,960 ARE COMMUNITY BUILDING AND WHAT 5528 04:18:58,960 --> 04:19:01,400 CAN EACH OF US TO CONTRIBUTE TO 5529 04:19:01,400 --> 04:19:02,880 BUILDING COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR 5530 04:19:02,880 --> 04:19:03,960 ORGANIZATIONS AND WITHIN WITH 5531 04:19:03,960 --> 04:19:05,720 OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND CAN THAT 5532 04:19:05,720 --> 04:19:16,080 BE PART OF THE METRIC? 5533 04:19:16,320 --> 04:19:20,120 >> I WANTED TO PUSH BACK AGAINST 5534 04:19:20,120 --> 04:19:22,560 THE IDEA OF THE PUSH BACK IN THE 5535 04:19:22,560 --> 04:19:22,760 PAPER. 5536 04:19:22,760 --> 04:19:28,440 FOR THE JUNIORS IN THE ROOM THEY 5537 04:19:28,440 --> 04:19:31,360 NEED THAT CACHE TO SHOW THEY'RE 5538 04:19:31,360 --> 04:19:33,800 PART OF THE COLLECTIVE BUT I 5539 04:19:33,800 --> 04:19:34,560 THINK OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD 5540 04:19:34,560 --> 04:19:40,320 NOT BENEFIT FROM THAT STRATEGY. 5541 04:19:40,320 --> 04:19:42,000 >> THE TIME CHECK FROM THE 5542 04:19:42,000 --> 04:19:43,840 ORGANIZERS, ARE WE GOING TO BE 5543 04:19:43,840 --> 04:19:48,080 THROWN OUT OR CAN WE GO ON? 5544 04:19:48,080 --> 04:19:49,600 WE ARE OFFICIALLY AFTER THE 5545 04:19:49,600 --> 04:19:50,880 CLOSING TIME BUT I DON'T WANT TO 5546 04:19:50,880 --> 04:19:51,680 CLOSE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE 5547 04:19:51,680 --> 04:19:53,000 THERE'S TONS OF GREAT IDEAS, IF 5548 04:19:53,000 --> 04:20:03,560 YOU HAVE TO LEAVE WE UNDERSTAND. 5549 04:20:19,480 --> 04:20:20,520 WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE 5550 04:20:20,520 --> 04:20:21,520 INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF CREATIVITY 5551 04:20:21,520 --> 04:20:25,880 PEOPLE HAVE IN THE WAYS THEY 5552 04:20:25,880 --> 04:20:27,480 HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING EACH OTHER 5553 04:20:27,480 --> 04:20:28,400 BUILDING, CREATING. 5554 04:20:28,400 --> 04:20:33,520 IF A PAPER WOULD SATISFY SOME 5555 04:20:33,520 --> 04:20:34,000 FOL 5556 04:20:34,000 --> 04:20:35,160 FOLKS, GREAT. 5557 04:20:35,160 --> 04:20:38,600 BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO 5558 04:20:38,600 --> 04:20:39,520 POTENTIALLY CROWD SOURCE AN 5559 04:20:39,520 --> 04:20:41,200 INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES 5560 04:20:41,200 --> 04:20:43,000 AND REACH OUT TO VARIOUS 5561 04:20:43,000 --> 04:20:43,320 COMMUNITIES. 5562 04:20:43,320 --> 04:20:44,920 PEOPLE ISOLATED WHO DON'T EVEN 5563 04:20:44,920 --> 04:20:46,960 KNOW THINGS LIKE THIS EXIST AND 5564 04:20:46,960 --> 04:20:48,160 MAY NOT HAVE THAT COMMUNITY AND 5565 04:20:48,160 --> 04:20:53,000 CONNECTION TO THEN START TO 5566 04:20:53,000 --> 04:20:54,080 BUILD THAT BECAUSE THERE'S 5567 04:20:54,080 --> 04:20:56,440 SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING UNDER 5568 04:20:56,440 --> 04:20:58,040 THE COMMUNITY ASPECT WE'VE BEEN 5569 04:20:58,040 --> 04:20:59,080 TALKING ABOUT AND NOT JUST THE 5570 04:20:59,080 --> 04:20:59,680 STUFF AND MOVING TOWARDS THE 5571 04:20:59,680 --> 04:21:07,560 STUFF. 5572 04:21:07,560 --> 04:21:11,480 AND PUSHED TO THE OUTCOME 5573 04:21:11,480 --> 04:21:13,080 ORIENTED IDEA AND WHAT CAN BE 5574 04:21:13,080 --> 04:21:14,000 CREATED TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER 5575 04:21:14,000 --> 04:21:19,600 IN USEFUL WAYS. 5576 04:21:19,600 --> 04:21:23,640 >> WE'LL TRY TO CLOSE AT 4:30. 5577 04:21:23,640 --> 04:21:30,000 >> I WANT DO SAY I 100% AGREE 5578 04:21:30,000 --> 04:21:36,360 WITH AND WHY WE'RE IN THE 5579 04:21:36,360 --> 04:21:37,600 SITUATION WE'RE IN. 5580 04:21:37,600 --> 04:21:39,360 WHY DID I SAY THAT? 5581 04:21:39,360 --> 04:21:41,640 BECAUSE I DISAGREE ABOUT THE 5582 04:21:41,640 --> 04:21:44,800 OTHER THING. 5583 04:21:44,800 --> 04:21:47,280 AND THE REASON I DISAGREE IS 5584 04:21:47,280 --> 04:21:49,960 THAT NIH WOULD NOT HAVE COME OUT 5585 04:21:49,960 --> 04:21:52,400 WITH THE RIGOR GUIDELINES IF IT 5586 04:21:52,400 --> 04:21:54,240 WASN'T FOR THE LANCET ET AL. 5587 04:21:54,240 --> 04:21:57,720 PAPER AND PROBABLY THE 5588 04:21:57,720 --> 04:21:59,960 EDUCATIONAL PLATFORM THE NINDS 5589 04:21:59,960 --> 04:22:02,000 IS GOING TO FUND IS WOULDN'T 5590 04:22:02,000 --> 04:22:03,240 HAVE HAPPENED IF WE DIDN'T 5591 04:22:03,240 --> 04:22:05,640 PUBLISH THE PAPER AFTER THE LAST 5592 04:22:05,640 --> 04:22:10,000 WORKSHOP BECAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW 5593 04:22:10,000 --> 04:22:11,960 THINGS ARE DONE. 5594 04:22:11,960 --> 04:22:14,240 IF WE WANT TO GET US -- NOT THE 5595 04:22:14,240 --> 04:22:16,360 COMMUNITY, BUT GET THE FUNDERS 5596 04:22:16,360 --> 04:22:19,440 OR THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT COULD 5597 04:22:19,440 --> 04:22:25,000 ACTUALLY BRING ABOUT CHANGE TO 5598 04:22:25,000 --> 04:22:28,600 ACT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM 5599 04:22:28,600 --> 04:22:36,680 SOMETHING TO DO THAT. 5600 04:22:36,680 --> 04:22:38,040 >> REGARDING THE TANGIBLE 5601 04:22:38,040 --> 04:22:39,360 ACTIONS WE COULD TAKE, I BELIEVE 5602 04:22:39,360 --> 04:22:43,400 ONE OF THE EFFECTIVE WAYS TO 5603 04:22:43,400 --> 04:22:46,560 CATALYZE COMMUNITIES IS TO LOOK 5604 04:22:46,560 --> 04:22:47,960 AT THE RESEARCH THAT EXISTS IN 5605 04:22:47,960 --> 04:22:54,360 THE UNIVERSITIES IN THE U.S. 5606 04:22:54,360 --> 04:22:55,800 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY TO 5607 04:22:55,800 --> 04:22:58,400 PUSH THIS FORWARD GIVEN THE 5608 04:22:58,400 --> 04:23:00,440 MAGNITUDE AND COMPLEXITY OF THE 5609 04:23:00,440 --> 04:23:00,720 ISSUE. 5610 04:23:00,720 --> 04:23:08,240 WE NEED TO TRY AND BRING THEM IN 5611 04:23:08,240 --> 04:23:10,040 AND THEN USE THEIR POWER AS WELL 5612 04:23:10,040 --> 04:23:11,160 AS INSTITUTIONAL INTEGRATION TO 5613 04:23:11,160 --> 04:23:21,560 PUSH OUR IDEAS FORWARD. 5614 04:23:27,880 --> 04:23:29,240 AND WE CAN GO BACK TO THE 5615 04:23:29,240 --> 04:23:31,040 UNIVERSITY AND SAY WE DID THIS, 5616 04:23:31,040 --> 04:23:34,440 WHAT DO YOU THINK, HOW CAN WE 5617 04:23:34,440 --> 04:23:35,640 MAKE CHANGE. 5618 04:23:35,640 --> 04:23:38,680 DO YOU AGREE, DO YOU NOT 5619 04:23:38,680 --> 04:23:39,280 DISAGREE? 5620 04:23:39,280 --> 04:23:40,800 KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING WITH 5621 04:23:40,800 --> 04:23:41,040 THEM. 5622 04:23:41,040 --> 04:23:50,800 I THINK ONCE WE BRING THEM IN, I 5623 04:23:50,800 --> 04:23:56,720 THINK IT WOULD CATALYZE CHANGE 5624 04:23:56,720 --> 04:23:59,360 AND THEN WE CAN TRY TO PROP UP 5625 04:23:59,360 --> 04:24:00,280 OUR OTHER NETWORK. 5626 04:24:00,280 --> 04:24:01,920 THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I THINK 5627 04:24:01,920 --> 04:24:05,000 MANY OF US HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 5628 04:24:05,000 --> 04:24:10,040 MANY OF THE OPEN SCIENCE 5629 04:24:10,040 --> 04:24:10,400 EFFORTS. 5630 04:24:10,400 --> 04:24:19,200 A LOT OF TIMES AND I THINK 5631 04:24:19,200 --> 04:24:23,320 LEVERAGING THE EXISTING ORIs IN 5632 04:24:23,320 --> 04:24:27,160 A WAY IS BASIC INTEGRITY IS THE 5633 04:24:27,160 --> 04:24:28,360 SAME AS RIGOR. 5634 04:24:28,360 --> 04:24:32,720 >> I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING AND 5635 04:24:32,720 --> 04:24:35,360 WHAT NAOMI HAS DONE IS AMAZING 5636 04:24:35,360 --> 04:24:37,040 BUT THERE'S A HIGH RISK NOT 5637 04:24:37,040 --> 04:24:42,040 DOING IT AS WELL AS SHE'S DONE 5638 04:24:42,040 --> 04:24:47,320 IT HAVING THE COMPLIANCE THERE'S 5639 04:24:47,320 --> 04:24:57,760 WORK TO DO HOW TO IT WELL. 5640 04:25:06,800 --> 04:25:10,000 >> I THINK RESEARCH INTEGRATE 5641 04:25:10,000 --> 04:25:15,240 SHOULD BE PART OF THIS. 5642 04:25:15,240 --> 04:25:17,520 >> I AGREE PAPERS HAVE VALUE AS 5643 04:25:17,520 --> 04:25:18,400 ACADEMIC OCCURRENCE AND PEOPLE 5644 04:25:18,400 --> 04:25:20,160 DO USE THAT TO GET JOBS BUT I 5645 04:25:20,160 --> 04:25:22,400 THINK WE CAN SHORTCUT IT AND 5646 04:25:22,400 --> 04:25:24,240 HIGHER THE ECRs AS THE 5647 04:25:24,240 --> 04:25:26,000 INSTITUTION LEADS FOR ACADEMIC 5648 04:25:26,000 --> 04:25:34,640 INTEGRITY. 5649 04:25:34,640 --> 04:25:36,640 >> TRACEY, LAST WORDS. 5650 04:25:36,640 --> 04:25:39,280 >> IT'S VALUE IN THINKING HOW TO 5651 04:25:39,280 --> 04:25:41,240 CREATE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES 5652 04:25:41,240 --> 04:25:42,040 WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY FOR FUTURE 5653 04:25:42,040 --> 04:25:43,920 PROBLEM SOLVING AND DISCUSSIONS 5654 04:25:43,920 --> 04:25:45,920 AND SETTING UP SMALLER WORKING 5655 04:25:45,920 --> 04:25:48,640 GROUPS WHERE EVERYONE HAS A 5656 04:25:48,640 --> 04:25:49,600 CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT PROJECTS 5657 04:25:49,600 --> 04:25:55,680 THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT ARE 5658 04:25:55,680 --> 04:25:57,200 SIMILAR AND SHARED INTERESTING 5659 04:25:57,200 --> 04:25:58,600 AND TALK HOW ARE YOU HANDLING IT 5660 04:25:58,600 --> 04:26:00,000 AND HOW CAN I LEARN FROM THAT 5661 04:26:00,000 --> 04:26:02,320 AND HOW CAN WE AMPLIFY AND 5662 04:26:02,320 --> 04:26:03,760 STRENGTHEN EFFORTS THROUGH THE 5663 04:26:03,760 --> 04:26:05,000 PROJECTS AND MAKING SURE THESE 5664 04:26:05,000 --> 04:26:15,520 ARE SMALL TARGETED GROUPS AND 5665 04:26:16,080 --> 04:26:17,920 WORTH THINKING ABOUT THE 5666 04:26:17,920 --> 04:26:20,120 DIFFERENT ROLES PEOPLE PLAY 5667 04:26:20,120 --> 04:26:22,040 WITHIN DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER 5668 04:26:22,040 --> 04:26:23,640 GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND 5669 04:26:23,640 --> 04:26:24,560 OFFERING STRATEGIES PEOPLE CAN 5670 04:26:24,560 --> 04:26:27,080 USE WITHIN EACH OF THOSE ROLES 5671 04:26:27,080 --> 04:26:29,680 TO STRENGTHEN THE GOALS THAT 5672 04:26:29,680 --> 04:26:30,680 WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. 5673 04:26:30,680 --> 04:26:33,200 >> THANK YOU. 5674 04:26:33,200 --> 04:26:35,680 I THINK THIS THESE ARE VERY WISE 5675 04:26:35,680 --> 04:26:38,000 WORDS TO CLOSE. 5676 04:26:38,000 --> 04:26:40,320 IT'S 4:30. 5677 04:26:40,320 --> 04:26:41,960 THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYONE OF 5678 04:26:41,960 --> 04:26:45,760 YOU FOR ALL THE ENERGY AND THE 5679 04:26:45,760 --> 04:26:48,920 CREATIVITY AND EVERYTHING YOU 5680 04:26:48,920 --> 04:26:51,000 BROUGHT TO THESE TWO DAYS. 5681 04:26:51,000 --> 04:26:56,040 IT'S BEEN INTENSE AND AMAZING. 5682 04:26:56,040 --> 04:26:58,640 THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANKS AGAIN 5683 04:26:58,640 --> 04:26:59,880 TO THE HOST AND SHY AND DEVAN 5684 04:26:59,880 --> 04:27:02,080 AND EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE TO 5685 04:27:02,080 --> 04:27:03,520 MAKE THIS POSSIBLE. 5686 04:27:03,520 --> 04:27:05,840 I THINK THEY DESERVE A ROUND OF 5687 04:27:05,840 --> 04:27:16,000 APPLAUSE. 5688 04:27:18,680 --> 04:27:20,160 >> ON BEHALF OF NINDS I WANT TO 5689 04:27:20,160 --> 04:27:21,160 THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND 5690 04:27:21,160 --> 04:27:23,680 TAKING THE TIME OUT AND COMING 5691 04:27:23,680 --> 04:27:28,120 TO AN IN-PERSON MEETING IT'S THE 5692 04:27:28,120 --> 04:27:30,040 FIRST WE HELD IN TWO YEARS AND 5693 04:27:30,040 --> 04:27:31,200 WE THINK IT WAS VALUABLE AND 5694 04:27:31,200 --> 04:27:31,840 WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING 5695 04:27:31,840 --> 04:27:34,040 HERE. 5696 04:27:34,040 --> 04:27:44,200 THANK YOU.