1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,640 >>WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,280 IF YOU WERE WITH US YESTERDAY, 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,120 AND THOSE JOINING TODAY TO THE 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,520 COMBINED WEBINAR ON THE BRAIN 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,160 ACROSS THE LIFESPAN, LOOKING AT 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,440 TOOLS AND METHODOLOGIES FOR 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,600 MEASURING THE CHANGING BRAIN. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,680 YESTERDAY WE HAD A GREAT SET OF 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,840 TALKS FOCUSING ON UNDERSTANDING 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,120 NEW WAYS, STATE-OF-THE-ART WAYS 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,560 OF MEASURING BRAIN STRUCTURE AND 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:28,920 FUNCTION. 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,600 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT 14 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,880 TODAY WITH ALSO SCALING BACK A 15 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,280 LITTLE BIT, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND 16 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,680 HOW WE CAN BRING SOME OF THOSE 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,920 TECHNOLOGIES TO OTHER GEOGRAPHIC 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,440 SETTINGS AND AREAS. 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,080 TO KICK OFF DAY 2 IT'S MY 20 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,280 PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE DR. RASA 21 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,160 IZADNEGAHDAR, WHO IS THE 22 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:54,280 DIRECTOR OF THE MATERNAL NEWBORN 23 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,000 CHILD HEALTH DISCOVERY AND TOOLS 24 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,520 TEAM AT THE BILL AND MELINDA 25 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,680 GATES FOUNDATION, A TEAM THAT 26 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,800 FOCUSES ON IDENTIFYING 27 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,000 DEVELOPING AND VALIDATING TOOLS 28 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,480 AND TECHNOLOGIES AS WELL AS 29 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,840 PRODUCTS THAT IMPROVE CHILD AND 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,080 MATERNAL NEWBORN HEALTH, AN 31 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,560 IMPORTANT METRIC AGAINST WHICH 32 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,800 TOOLS AND TECHNOLOGIES ARE BEING 33 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,040 EVALUATE AND MEASURED AGAINST. 34 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,120 I'LL TURN TO RASA TO WELCOME US 35 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:30,240 TO DAY 2 OF THE WORKSHOP. 36 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:30,520 >> THANKS. 37 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,920 HELLO, COLLEAGUES. 38 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,880 THANK YOU FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A 39 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,280 PACKED DAY YESTERDAY, THE 40 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,640 CELLULAR LEVEL, UNDERSTANDING 41 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,520 WHAT WE'VE LEARNED. 42 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,480 IT IS TRULY INSPIRING AFTER 43 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,520 SEVERAL YEARS OF BEING IN 44 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,800 LOCKDOWN AND NOT IN REAL LIFE 45 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,880 SETTING BUT AT LEAST IN A 46 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,960 VIRTUAL SETTING GETTING TO HEAR 47 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,880 SO MUCH INTERESTING WORK IN THIS 48 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,920 PLACE AND THINK ABOUT POTENTIAL 49 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,080 WE HAVE IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS 50 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,000 FIELD FORWARD TOGETHER FROM THE 51 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,440 GATES FOUNDATION, NIH, AND OUR 52 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,960 COLLABORATORS THAT ARE SHARED 53 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,760 AND SEPARATE. 54 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,560 I TRULY BELIEVE THE PATH AHEAD 55 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,720 OF US IS A UNIQUE ONE. 56 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,480 ONE WHERE THE FIELD IS AT A 57 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,680 TURNING POINT WHERE THERE'S AN 58 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,200 INFLUX OF NEW TOOLS, AN 59 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,400 OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND 60 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,560 AND LINK FUNDAMENTAL BIOLOGY TO 61 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,680 PHENOTYPES THAT WE'RE 62 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,520 UNDERSTANDING, THAT WE'RE 63 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,360 SEEING, AND TO TAKE AN APPROACH 64 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,120 TO SCIENCE THAT PURCHASE -- 65 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,200 SURPASSES CHALLENGES OF THE 66 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:32,480 PAST. 67 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,720 WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHIFT 68 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,560 HOW FUNNEL MENTAL UNDERSTANDING 69 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,680 OF DEVELOPMENT MOVES AWAY FROM 70 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:47,280 SOME OF THE BASICS OF 71 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:47,880 ANTHROPOMETRY, FOUNDING 72 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,000 PRINCIPLES OF WHETHER TOOLS ARE 73 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,200 USEFUL OR POPULATIONS ARE 74 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,480 LAGGING TO TRUE UNDERSTANDING OF 75 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,880 WHAT'S DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL 76 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,760 MEANS, NOT JUST BY GROWTH BUT 77 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,920 UNDERSTANDING THE BRAIN, ITS 78 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:00,920 NEURAL NETWORKS, ITS STRUCTURE 79 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:05,720 AND FUNCTION AND HOW IT COMES 80 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,360 TOGETHER FUNDAMENTALLY TO HELP 81 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:13,400 DEVELOP AT A POPULATION LEVEL A 82 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,800 COHORT THAT IS ABLE TO THRIVE 83 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,920 LIVING A HEALTH AND HAPPY LIFE. 84 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:24,080 THERE ARE THREE THINGS I'D LIKE 85 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,720 TO PUSH US TO CONSIDER AS WE 86 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,600 THINK WITH TECHNOLOGIES ASSESSED 87 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,480 YESTERDAY, OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE 88 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,120 US TODAY. 89 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,040 THE FIRST ONE IS THE TOOLS 90 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:38,000 THEMSELVES, THESE CON 91 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,080 CONSTITUENT COMPONENTS TO ASSAY, 92 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,160 TO UNDERSTAND, THAT IS AN 93 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,480 ENTIRELY SHIFTING FIELD, WE'RE 94 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,880 TRYING TO UNDERSTAND 95 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:47,480 COMMONALITIES ACROSS 96 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,480 POPULATIONS, DIFFERENCES, AND 97 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,880 THIS GIVES UNIQUE INSIGHT INTO 98 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,680 THE HETEROGENEITY THAT'S THERE, 99 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,000 GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT 100 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,960 JUST TAKE NEW TOOLS TO PLACES 101 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,600 THAT HAVEN'T BEEN THERE BEFORE 102 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,000 BUT THINK ABOUT TOOLS TO EXTEND 103 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,240 INTO THE HOME TO CORRELATE WITH 104 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,720 WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN 105 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,440 IN A SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITED 106 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,120 ACCESS FACILITY OF THE PAST. 107 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,720 THAT'S A LEVEL OF INNOVATION IN 108 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,480 THIS SPACE AND INSPIRES ME AND 109 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,360 OUR TEAM AND COLLABORATORS WITH 110 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,760 YOU TO THINK MORE BROADLY IN 111 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,080 TERMS OF WHO IS BEING MEASURED 112 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,040 WITH THE TOOLS AND WHAT WE'RE 113 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,560 UNDERSTANDING FROM THE 114 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,760 PERSPECTIVES THAT ARE THERE. 115 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,160 CONTINUING TO PUSH TO TURN SOME 116 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,840 OF THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE 117 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:33,360 CHANGES ARE INTO MEASURES THAT 118 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,760 CAN BE SCALED EVEN IN RESEARCH 119 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,600 SETTINGS, BUT REDEFINING 120 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,640 RESEARCH SETTINGS TO BE AS 121 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,640 CLOSER TO THE HOME OR FUNCTIONAL 122 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,080 ENVIRONMENT OF THE DEVELOPING 123 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,280 BRAIN AND THE CHILD IS PART OF 124 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,640 OUR GOALS. 125 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,840 THE SECOND IS THE POPULATIONS, 126 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:52,360 THE COHORTS WE HAVE, THE WAY 127 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,280 THAT WE GO ABOUT IDENTIFYING WHO 128 00:04:57,280 --> 00:04:58,360 BECOMES PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE 129 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,960 SUBJECT TO THE ASSAYS, AND ARE 130 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:03,040 WORKING WITH US IN TERMS OF THE 131 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,400 MEASURES AND HOW MUCH IS THAT A 132 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,080 PARTNERSHIP WITH THOSE 133 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,320 POPULATIONS, HOW MUCH ARE WE 134 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,560 TAKING THE APPROACH TO IDENTIFY 135 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,040 POPULATIONS THAT ARE NOT JUST 136 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,200 THE EASIEST ONES TO FIND, THAT 137 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,680 ARE NOT THE ONES THAT REALLY ARE 138 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,640 DEVELOPING ON PACE WITH WHAT WE 139 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,080 WOULD LIKE TO SEE, OR THE ONES 140 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,400 THAT HAVE DEFINITIVE CHALLENGES 141 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,480 THAT HAVE LED THEM TO COME TO 142 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,880 CARE, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT WHO 143 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,120 COMPRISES SOME OF THE RESIDUAL 144 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:40,680 MORBIDITY AND LAGGING 145 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:41,680 DEVELOPMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, 146 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,320 HOW DO WE REACH THOSE 147 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,280 POPULATIONS, HOW DO WE NOT JUST 148 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:47,160 TAKE THE TOOLS TO WHERE IT'S 149 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,400 EASIEST AT THE PORT OF ENTRY TO 150 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,280 BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR 151 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:55,640 VALUE IS BUT REALLY PUSH INTO 152 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,080 COMMUNITIES ALONGSIDE THE VOICES 153 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,760 OF FOLKS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES IN 154 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,520 TERMS OF HELPING UNDERSTAND 155 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,680 WHERE AND WHAT NEURODEVELOPMENT 156 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:03,640 LOOKS LIKE. 157 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,960 AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE THIRD 158 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,040 ONE, WHICH IS THE APPROACH WE 159 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,600 USE IN BRINGING TOGETHER THESE 160 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,360 COHORTS WITH THE TOOLS. 161 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,640 I FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE THAT 162 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,280 SHEDDING LIGHT ON THE TRAJECTORY 163 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:20,960 OF NEURODEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT AND 164 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,320 CAN BE ABOUT EQUITY. 165 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,720 IT CAN BE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING 166 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,320 HOW UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS, 167 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,480 WHETHER THEY ARE IN THE U.S. OR 168 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,560 WHETHER THEY ARE GLOBALLY, ARE 169 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,880 IMPACTED BY SOME OF THE 170 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,800 STRUCTURAL BIASES THAT ARE 171 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,960 THERE, WHEREVER THEY MAY BE, 172 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,960 SOME ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS THAT 173 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:46,120 ARE THERE, AND SOME OF THE 174 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,880 SPECIFIC INHERENT ASPECTS OF THE 175 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,120 ENVIRONMENTS THEY LIVE IN AND 176 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,720 HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE. 177 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,360 IF WE TAKE BROAD APPROACH TO 178 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,080 WHAT TOOLS CAN DO, IN TERMS OF 179 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,600 WHERE THEY CAN GO, EXPANSIVE IN 180 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,640 TERMS OF COHORTS WE LOOK AT, 181 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:10,720 DOWN TO GRANULAR DETAIL, NOT 182 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,600 JUST A CROSS-SECTIONAL 183 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,320 ASSESSMENT FROM WHICH WE 184 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,040 EXTRAPOLATE GENERALIZATIONS 185 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,360 ACROSS POPULATIONS BUT DIG INTO 186 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,200 UNDERSTANDING HETEROGENEITY OF 187 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,320 NEURAL DEVELOPMENT ACROSS 188 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,360 POPULATIONS, ACROSS SETTINGS, I 189 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,160 THINK WE REALLY HAVE THE 190 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,800 OPPORTUNITY TO BRING FORTH AN 191 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,320 UNDERSTANDING THAT GOES BEYOND 192 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,840 SOME OF THE IMBALANCES THAT HAVE 193 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,680 EXISTED IN THIS FIELD, INCLUDING 194 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,320 SPECIFIC FOCUS ON HIGH INCOME 195 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,080 SETTINGS, HIGH-INCOME 196 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 POPULATIONS, AND REALLY ALLOWS 197 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,000 US TO DIG DEEPER INTO THE 198 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,880 TRAJECTORY OF NEURODEVELOPMENT 199 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,480 AS IT UNFOLDS FOR ALL BECAUSE 200 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:50,600 THE POWER IN WHAT WE HAVE IS 201 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,800 TRANSCENDENT OF THOSE DIVISIONS 202 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,000 AND QUALIFICATIONS AND WE HAVE 203 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,680 BEFORE US AS WE SAW YESTERDAY 204 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,640 AND WILL HEAR ABOUT TODAY SOME 205 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,280 OF THE TOOLS TO GET AT. 206 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,200 SO FOR ME IT'S REALLY ABOUT 207 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,200 PARTNERING WITH THE COMMUNITIES 208 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,600 AND POPULATIONS TO BE ABLE TO 209 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,360 ACHIEVE MEANINGFUL SCIENCE, 210 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,600 MEANINGFUL DATA THAT HELPS TO 211 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,920 MOVE THE FIELD FORWARD. 212 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,920 I'M EXCITED HOW THE DAY WILL 213 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,160 UNFOLD AND LOOK FORWARD TO 214 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,000 TAKING THIS ON AND APPRECIATE 215 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,560 EACH OF YOU WHO CONTRIBUTED TO 216 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,080 MAKING THIS POSSIBLE AND MOVING 217 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,840 THE FIELD FORWARD TOGETHER. 218 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,520 THANK YOU. 219 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,200 220 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,080 >> THANK YOU FOR THOSE WELCOMING 221 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,360 REMARKS. 222 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,080 IN A MOMENT WHEN THE SLIDES COME 223 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,480 UP I'D LIKE TO GIVE A SHORT 224 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,000 REMINDER OF TODAY'S EVENTS AND 225 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,040 HOW TO USE VIRTUAL SYSTEMS. 226 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:51,080 227 00:08:51,080 --> 00:09:02,320 228 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,280 STILL SEEING THE CONTENT SHARING 229 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,240 IS LAUNCHING. 230 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,200 231 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,280 HERE WE ARE. 232 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:15,520 YOU HAVE CANS TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 233 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,080 SO YOU CAN FIND AGENDA AND BIOS 234 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,440 ON THE MEETING WEBSITE, LINK IN 235 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,640 THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER OF 236 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,920 THE SLIDE. 237 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,560 SO THE FIRST SESSION TODAY WILL 238 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:27,880 BUILD OFF THE EXCITING WORK 239 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,440 PRESENTED YESTERDAY, AND FOCUS 240 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,960 ON STATE OF THE ART IN MEASURING 241 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,640 BRAIN ACTIVITY OVER TIME. 242 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,520 AND FOLLOWING THAT SESSION WE'LL 243 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,880 EXPAND ON SOME OF THE IDEAS 244 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,360 MENTIONED IN YESTERDAY'S PANEL, 245 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,320 IN A PANEL FOCUSED ON SCALING 246 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,680 TECHNOLOGIES FROM THE INDIVIDUAL 247 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:46,800 TO POPULATION LEVELS 248 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,000 PARTICULARLY IN LOW AND MIDDLE 249 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,520 INCOME SETTINGS. 250 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,960 FINALLY, WE HAVE THE REAL 251 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,160 PRIVILEGE OF HEARING CLOSING 252 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,880 THOUGHTS FROM DR. JOHN NGAI, 253 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,000 DIRECTOR OF THE NIH BRAIN 254 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:56,440 INITIATIVE. 255 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,040 THIS LAST HALF HOUR WILL BE AN 256 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,400 OPEN FORUM MODERATED BY DR. NGAI 257 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,080 FOR FUTURE DIRECTIONS GLEANED 258 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,680 FROM THE PAST TWO DAYS OF TALKS 259 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:08,520 AND DISCUSSIONS. 260 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,360 I HOPE YOU CAN STAY TUNED TO BE 261 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,680 PART OF THAT OPPORTUNITY. 262 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:15,200 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 263 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,080 AS A REMINDER TO AUDIENCE 264 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,760 PARTICIPATING THROUGH THE 265 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,720 VIDEOCAST WE'LL SAVE ALL 266 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,040 QUESTIONS FOR AFTER THE 267 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,320 PRESENTATIONS BUT YOU CAN BE 268 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,320 SUBMITTING YOUR QUESTIONS AND 269 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,160 COMMENTS THROUGH THE LIVE 270 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,480 FEEDBACK SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE 271 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:27,720 MEETING. 272 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,080 THIS IS ACCESSED THROUGH THE 273 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,280 SEND LIVE FEEDBACK BUTTON BELOW 274 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,080 THE LIVE FEED ON THE VIDEOCAST 275 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,400 PAGE. 276 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,440 YOUR CONTRIBUTION MATTERS SO 277 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,360 FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT YOUR 278 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:40,640 THOUGHTS. 279 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,040 NEXT SLIDE. 280 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,720 I WANT TO THANK AGAIN EVERYONE 281 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,200 THAT'S CONTRIBUTED, AND 282 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,560 SPECIFICALLY THANK DR. SEAN 283 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,680 DONEY, ON THE BILL AND MELINDA 284 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:56,520 GATES FOUNDATION, AND SPEAKERS 285 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,160 AND PANELISTS FROM YESTERDAY FOR 286 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,280 DELIVERING GREAT TALKS AND 287 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,680 DISCUSSION, I LOOK FORWARD TO 288 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:02,760 HEARING WHAT'S IN STORE FROM THE 289 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:03,320 SPEAKERS TODAY. 290 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:12,720 NOW I'M GOING TO TURN THE 291 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,080 PROGRAM OVER TO HELENA. 292 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,680 >> HELLO, I'M A PROGRAM OFFICER 293 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:24,600 AT NICHD, I WILL INTRODUCE DR. 294 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:30,880 TERRY JERNIGAN, OUR MODERATOR, A 295 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,600 DISTINGUISHED PROFESSOR, 296 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,680 DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR HUMAN 297 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:37,720 DEVELOPMENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 298 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,920 CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO. 299 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:50,160 SHE HAS STUDIED HUMAN BRAIN, 300 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,480 FOCUSING ON AGING, 301 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:51,880 NEURODEVELOPMENT, 302 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,440 NEUROPSYCHIATRIC AND SUBSTANCE 303 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,280 USE DISORDERS AND 304 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,960 NEURODEGENERATIVE DISORDERS. 305 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,840 FOR THE LAST DECADE, RESEARCH 306 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,560 INTERESTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING 307 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:06,520 MIND AND BRAIN, WITH FOCUS ON 308 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,600 DYNAMIC NEURODEVELOPMENT OF 309 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,520 PROCESSES THAT GIVE RISE TO 310 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,960 HUMAN INDIVIDUALITY AND THOSE 311 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,440 THESE ARE AFFECTED BY 312 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,760 EXPERIENCE, SUBSTANCE EXPOSURE, 313 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,040 AND GENETIC VARIATION AND OTHER 314 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:23,280 VECTORS. 315 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,080 CO-DIRECTOR OF COORDINATING 316 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,280 CENTER FOR ABCD STUDY, HAS 317 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,520 SERVED ON THE NATIONAL ADVISORY 318 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,840 COUNCIL ON DRUG ABUSE AND 319 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,920 COUNCIL OF COUNCILS OF THE 320 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,560 NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH, 321 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:41,680 CURRENTLY SERVES ON THE NIH 322 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:45,880 HELPING END ADDICTION LONG-TERM, 323 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,160 "HEAL," MULTI-DISCIPLINARY WORK 324 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,520 GROUP, SCIENTIFIC ADVISORY GROUP 325 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,600 OF SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE 326 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,280 UNITED STATES AND EUROPE. 327 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,680 PLEASE WELCOME DR. TERRY 328 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:57,040 JERNIGAN. 329 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,600 TAKE IT AWAY. 330 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,720 331 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,000 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. 332 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,440 THANKS TO THE ORGANIZERS FOR 333 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,680 INVITING ME TO JOIN YOU TODAY. 334 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:11,080 I MUST SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE 335 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,160 THE REMARKS OF DR. IZADNEGAHDAR 336 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,680 WHO SET THE STAGE FOR THIS 337 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,080 SESSION, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL 338 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,480 SEE SOME RESONANCE BETWEEN MY 339 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,120 REMARKS AND YOURS. 340 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,160 LET ME START US OFF TODAY BY 341 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,720 BRINGING ATTENTION TO THIS 342 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,880 REMARKABLE REPORT, NEXT SLIDE 343 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,080 PLEASE, THAT APPEARED A FEW DAYS 344 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,920 AGO NOW IN "NATURE" AUTHORED BY 345 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,720 HUNDREDS BUT FOR WHICH THE LEAD 346 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,640 JUNIOR AND SENIOR AUTHORS ARE 347 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:40,520 LISTED HERE. 348 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,040 THEY COMBINE BRAIN IMAGING DATA 349 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,520 FROM OVER 100,000 INDIVIDUAL 350 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,400 PARTICIPANTS, RANGING IN AGE 351 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,240 FROM 16 POST-CONCEPTION WEEKS TO 352 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,840 100 YEARS OF AGE. 353 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,240 NOW, THIS SESSION IS TITLED, 354 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,560 MEASURING BRAIN ACTIVITY, AND SO 355 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,240 LET ME CLARIFY. 356 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,880 ALTHOUGH WE WILL HEAR VERY 357 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,760 INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THE USE 358 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,720 OF MRI TO MEASURE BRAIN 359 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,280 ACTIVITY, THIS PAPER REPORTS 360 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,320 ONLY ON VERY COMMON BRAIN 361 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,080 IMAGING PHENOTYPES PRODUCED WITH 362 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,480 WELL-STANDARDIZED THOUGHTS, FROM 363 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,760 WHAT WE REFER TO AS STRUCTURAL 364 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:28,720 NEUROIMAGE, WHAT I REFER TO AS 365 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,880 BIOLOGY NEUROIMAGING, VOLUMES OF 366 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:31,480 THE CEREBRAL HEMISPHERE, 367 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,680 SEPARATE VOLUMES OF THEIR GRAY 368 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,160 AND WHITE MATTER, AND SEPARATE 369 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,560 VOLUMES OF THE SUBCORTICAL AND 370 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,560 CORTICAL STRUCTURES, AVERAGE 371 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,200 THICKNESS OF THE CORTEX AND THE 372 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,160 SURFACE AREA OF THE CORTEX. 373 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,560 AND THIS FIGURE'S MEANT TO 374 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,440 HIGHLIGHT FOR THESE GLOBAL BRAIN 375 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,840 PHENOTYPES THAT THE LIFESPAN 376 00:14:53,840 --> 00:15:00,080 TRAJECTORIES THEY EXHIBIT ARE 377 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,200 DISTINCT, ALMOST ALL 378 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,120 NON-MONOTONIC, DIFFERING WITH 379 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:02,880 RESPECT TO PEAKS, INFLECTION 380 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,600 POINTS IN THE LIFE PAN, IN 381 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,680 PERIODS OF MAXIMAL AGE-RELATED 382 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,040 CHANGE. 383 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,880 SO THOUGH WE THINK OF THESE AS 384 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,080 ANATOMICAL MEASURES, THEY ARE 385 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,240 DERIVED FROM DISTRIBUTIONS OF 386 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,160 SIGNAL VALUES DIRECTLY RELATED 387 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,840 TO THE UNDERLYING BIOLOGY OF THE 388 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,000 TISSUE WITHIN THE SAMPLE SPACE. 389 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,920 SO, THESE CHANGES MUST REFLECT 390 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,400 ONGOING CELLULAR ALTERATIONS 391 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,960 WHICH ALMOST CERTAINLY INCLUDE, 392 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,040 DEPENDING ON AGE RANGE, CELL 393 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,320 PROLIFERATION, DIFFERENTIATION, 394 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,480 BUT ALSO ELIMINATION OF 395 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,680 OVER-PRODUCED CELLS, CELL 396 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,600 PROCESSES, CHANGING PATTERNS OF 397 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,680 STRUCTURAL CONNECTIVITY, 398 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,720 CHANGING CELL PHENOTYPES, ET 399 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:52,120 CETERA. 400 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,480 AND THOUGH THIS SLIDE SHOWS ONLY 401 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,080 THE TRAJECTORIES FOR THESE 402 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,720 GLOBAL PHENOTYPES, ELSEWHERE IN 403 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,800 THE PAPER RESULTS ARE PRESENTED 404 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,880 TO ILLUSTRATE SUBSTANTIAL 405 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,520 ANATOMICAL HETEROCHRONICITY IN 406 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,840 THE TRAJECTORIES ACROSS 407 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,560 DIFFERENT REGIONS WITHIN THE 408 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,520 CEREBRAL CORTEX, FOR EXAMPLE, SO 409 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:21,120 EVEN A MUCH MORE COMPLEX AND 410 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,080 HETEROCHRONOUS PATTERN. 411 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,320 EVEN THIS VERY GLOBAL ANATOMICAL 412 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,080 VIEW OF THE LIFESPAN OF THE 413 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,440 HUMAN BRAIN, IT IS OBVIOUS ITS 414 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,000 BIOLOGICAL STATE IS NEVER 415 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,680 STABLE. 416 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,120 IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY AGE 417 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,680 DEPENDENT, AND IS CHANGING AT 418 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,440 LEAST SUBTLY THROUGHOUT THE 419 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,120 ENTIRE LIFESPAN. 420 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,840 AS WE LISTEN TO THE FASCINATING 421 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,600 PRESENTATIONS IN THIS SESSION, 422 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,800 OF THE MANY WAYS WE CAN OBSERVE 423 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,120 BRAIN ACTIVITY, WE SHOULD KEEP 424 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,920 IN MIND ALMOST ALL DIFFERENCES 425 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,160 IN BRAIN FUNCTION AMONG 426 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,240 INDIVIDUALS IN THE POPULATION 427 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,200 INCLUDING THOSE THAT MARK BRAIN 428 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,560 DYSFUNCTION, OF PARTICULAR 429 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,880 INTEREST TO US HERE, EMERGE 430 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,440 GRADUALLY. 431 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,920 TRUE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THESE 432 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,520 AGE-DEPENDENT BIOLOGICAL 433 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,200 PROCESSES, AND A WIDE ARRAY OF 434 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,720 RELEVANT EXPERIENCES AND 435 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,360 ENVIRONMENTAL EXPOSURES, THAT 436 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:17,520 ACT TO SHAPE THE BRAIN'S 437 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,200 FUNCTIONAL RESPONSES. 438 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,920 IT FOLLOWS THEN THAT 439 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,080 UNDERSTANDING THE ORIGINS OF 440 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,080 ADVERSE OUTCOMES, MECHANISMS 441 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:29,560 THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR 442 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,760 PROGRESSION, AND THOSE THAT 443 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,720 COULD PREVENT OR MITIGATE THEM, 444 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,040 WILL REQUIRE A DELIBERATE PLAN 445 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,240 TO CONNECT THE DOTS ACROSS 446 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,800 LEVELS, SCALES, PARADIGMS, AT A 447 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,200 GIVEN AGE, AND THEN ACROSS THESE 448 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,040 SETS OF OBSERVATIONS AT 449 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,080 DIFFERENT AGES OF PEOPLE AND 450 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,720 SOMETIMES EXPERIMENTAL ANIMALS. 451 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,440 NEXT SLIDE. 452 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,360 AS WE ALL KNOW HERE, AT SOME 453 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:01,560 LEVEL AT LEAST, THE JOB OF THE 454 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,160 BIOLOGICAL HUMAN BRAIN IS TO 455 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:04,840 EXTRACT SIGNIFICANT AND 456 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,320 MEANINGFUL INFORMATION FROM THE 457 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,400 ENVIRONMENT, TO ENCODE IT IN A 458 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,680 BIOLOGICALLY INSTANTIATED MODEL 459 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,680 OF THE WORLD, AND THEN 460 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,280 ADAPTIVELY TO MODIFY THAT MODEL 461 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,400 IN RESPONSE TO MISMATCHES 462 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,000 BETWEEN THE MODEL AND THE WORLD. 463 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,280 AND AS EVERY OBSERVATION OF 464 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,080 BRAIN ACTIVITY WE MAKE REFLECTS 465 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,880 A COMBINATION OF THE BIOLOGICAL 466 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,760 STATE OF THE BRAIN AND STATE OF 467 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,240 THE WORLD DURING THE EPIC OF 468 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,760 DATA COLLECTION, BUT AT LEAST 469 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,680 EQUALLY THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF 470 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:40,600 BRAIN EXPERIENCE INTERACTIONS, 471 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,960 BOTH PROXIMAL TO THE 472 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,680 OBSERVATIONAL PERIOD AND REMOTE 473 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,600 IN TIME. 474 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,520 SO, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE 475 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:57,280 HAVE IS TO DETERMINE HOW WE CAN 476 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,280 MODEL THESE DISTINCT INFLUENCES, 477 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,960 ON THE BRAIN ACTIVITY THAT WE 478 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,600 OBSERVE, AS WE MOVE TOWARDS 479 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,080 PERSONALIZED NEUROSCIENTIFIC 480 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,760 SOLUTIONS TO MINIMIZE BRAIN 481 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:10,520 DYSFUNCTION. 482 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,920 NOW, THIS IS A VERY BIG 483 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,480 CHALLENGE, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW 484 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,880 WE ADDRESS IT, BUT I WOULD 485 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,160 SUGGEST THAT WE CONTINUE THE 486 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,560 TREND WHICH IS WELL ILLUSTRATED 487 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,080 IN THE WORK WE'LL HEAR ABOUT 488 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,880 NEXT, TO WORK IN LARGER, EVER 489 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,680 LARGER, COLLABORATIVE TEAMS TO 490 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:36,720 EXPAND THE RANGE OF TECHNIQUES 491 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,480 TO INVESTIGATE NEURAL CORRELATES 492 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,880 OF THESE THINGS OBSERVABLE IN 493 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,440 VIVO. 494 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,640 IMPORTANTLY, TO FIND WAYS TO 495 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,040 SITUATE OUR FINDINGS WITHIN A 496 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,120 LIFESPAN PERSPECTIVE BY 497 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,240 INCLUDING AGE AS EXPERIMENTAL 498 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,120 VARIABLE IN OUR RESEARCH AND 499 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:52,280 WHENEVER POSSIBLE BY OBSERVING 500 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,000 CHANGES IN BRAIN ACTIVITY OVER 501 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,120 TIME AND IN CONTEXT IN 502 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,520 LONGITUDINAL RESEARCH DESIGNS 503 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,680 AND STUDIES. 504 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,200 OKAY. 505 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,840 SO MORE THAN ENOUGH FROM ME. 506 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:10,040 LET'S MOVE TO OUR FIRST SPEAKER, 507 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,440 ELLEN GRANT. 508 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,920 DR. GRANT IS PROFESSOR OF 509 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,520 PEDIATRICS AND RADIOLOGY AT THE 510 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,320 HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL, AND 511 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,520 FOUNDING DIRECTOR OF THE FETAL 512 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,440 NEONATAL NEUROIMAGING AND 513 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,680 DEVELOPMENTAL SCIENCE CENTER, 514 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:30,520 HOLDS BOSTON CHILDRENS CHAIR IN 515 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,000 NEONATOLOGY, CLINICAL 516 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,080 RADIOLOGIST AT THAT HOSPITAL AS 517 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,480 WELL. 518 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,480 HER GROUP DEVELOPS AND OPTIMIZES 519 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,000 TOOLS AND ANALYSIS STREAMS TO 520 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,840 DETECT AND UNDERSTAND NORMAL AND 521 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,920 ABNORMAL BRAIN PHYSIOLOGY AND 522 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,280 DEVELOPMENT. 523 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,000 SHE DOES THIS WORK IN CHILDREN 524 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,080 WITH FOCUS ON YOUNGEST, FETUS 525 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:54,440 AND INFANTS, SHE'S WORKED WITH 526 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,880 MRI, MEG, AND NEAR-INFRARED 527 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:00,680 SPECTROSCOPY, NOVEL MRI ANALYSIS 528 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:08,000 AT THE FOREFRONT OF FETAL AND 529 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:18,720 PLACENTAL MRI, HAS BUILT A NOVEL 530 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,360 PEDIATRIC MEG SYSTEM, PIONEERED 531 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:20,880 NIRS. 532 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,960 HER TEAM DEVELOPING A 533 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,840 COMPUTATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO 534 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,720 FACILITATE AND SUPPORT DEEP 535 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,800 LEARNING APPROACHES ON LARGE 536 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,680 DATASETS AS WELL AS REALTIME 537 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,160 DATA ANALYSIS. 538 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,640 DR. GRANT IS SENIOR FELLOW OF 539 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,280 INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF 540 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,560 MAGNETICS RESONANCE IN MEDICINE, 541 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:43,240 ON THE BOARD OF SCIENTIFIC 542 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,200 COUNSELORS AT NICHD, 2021 543 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,240 RECEIVED OUTSTANDING 544 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,520 CONTRIBUTION IN RESEARCH AWARD 545 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,400 AMERICAN RESEARCH OF NEUROLOGY 546 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,960 AND IN 2022 GOLD MEDAL AWARD. 547 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,120 FIRST DISTINGUISHED FIRST 548 00:21:59,120 --> 00:21:59,680 SPEAKER, DR. GRANT, PLEASE. 549 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,440 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE 550 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,480 WONDERFUL INTRODUCTION, TERRY. 551 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,360 IT'S AN HONOR TO BE INCLUDED AS 552 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:08,000 A SPEAKER TODAY. 553 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,200 YOUR COMMENTS FIT INTO THE TALK 554 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,720 I PUT TOGETHER, TALKING ABOUT 555 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,760 ACTIVITY OR FUNCTION IN THE 556 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,040 DEVELOPING BRAIN. 557 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,120 I HAVE DISCLOSURES NOT RELEVANT 558 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,200 TO CONTENT OF THIS TALK. 559 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,680 WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS 560 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,000 IMAGING FUNCTION IN THE 561 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,120 DEVELOPING BRAIN AND WHEN I TALK 562 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,000 ABOUT THE DEVELOPING BRAIN I 563 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,960 MEAN THE FIRST THOUSAND DAYS 564 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,040 FROM CONCEPT TO TWO POST-NATAL 565 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:34,560 YEARS. 566 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,960 WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND DEVELOPING 567 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,280 NEURONAL ACTIVITY, DEVELOPING 568 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,120 COUPLING, DEVELOPING 569 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:42,560 NEUROMETABOLISM AND MODALITIES 570 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,840 TO CAPTURE EACH, AND IN THE END 571 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,760 HOW MOTION AS MEANS TO INCUR 572 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,160 DEVELOPMENT IN THE DEVELOPING 573 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,440 FUNCTION IN THE FETAL BRAIN. 574 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,040 SO OVERVIEW ABOUT THE DEVELOPING 575 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,040 BRAIN, FETAL MRI IN THE LATE 576 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,840 FIRST TRIMESTER YOU CAN START TO 577 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:09,080 SEE THE LAYERS, THE INITIAL PART 578 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:15,600 WHERE THE NEURONS AND GLIA ARE 579 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:15,800 BORN. 580 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,680 THESE WILL BE THE FUTURE WHITE 581 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,240 MATTER. 582 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,640 THE ZONE IS TRANSIENT WHERE 583 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,040 THERE'S NEURONS THAT TRANSLATE 584 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,880 BEFORE THEY EXTEND INTO THE 585 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,440 CORTICAL PLATE, AND THE CORTICAL 586 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,280 PLATE IS DENSELY PACKED WITH 587 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,280 NEURONS, WILL BECOME THE FUTURE 588 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,800 CEREBRAL CORTEX. 589 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:38,040 BEGINNING AROUND 12 GESTATIONAL 590 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,000 WEEKS THE SPONTANEOUS ACTIVITY 591 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,400 SUGGESTS THIS IS PREDOMINANTLY 592 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,120 IN THE SUBPLATE ZONE, CONTINUES 593 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,680 UNTIL 26 WEEKS GESTATIONAL AGE, 594 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,680 MOST ACTIVITY IN SYNAPTIC 595 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:55,680 DEVELOPMENT IS IN THIS REGION. 596 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,800 ENDOGENOUS AND RESPONSIBLE 597 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,760 SPONTANEOUS DRIVEN BY GENETIC 598 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,480 PHENOMENA. 599 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,080 THE FINAL NEURONS ESTABLISH 600 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,760 CONNECTION TO THE CORTICAL 601 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,600 PLACE, BEGINNING OF NEURAL 602 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,600 ACTIVITY. 603 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,880 32 WEEKS GESTATIONAL AGE CORPUS 604 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,840 CALLOSUM CONNECTIONS THAT 605 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,480 DEVELOP INTO THE CORTEX, LONG 606 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,560 RANGE CORTICAL CONNECTIONS 607 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:24,400 DEVELOP IN THE CEREBRAL CORTEX. 608 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,560 SYNCHRONIZED SENSORY-DRIVEN 609 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,200 NEURAL ACTIVITY. 610 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,920 CIRCUITS WITH ENDOGENOUS 611 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,280 ACTIVITY START FIRST, PRIMARILY 612 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,720 GENETICALLY DRIVEN, GRADUALLY 613 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,720 REPLACED BY ADULT CIRCUITS 614 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,680 INFLUENCED BY THE ENVIRONMENT. 615 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:45,000 SO AS WE SAID, FIRST TRIMESTER 616 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,280 AND EARLY SECOND, 617 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,440 SYNAPTOGENESIS, SYNAPTIC 618 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,960 DEVELOPMENT GENETICALLY DRIVEN. 619 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,440 LATE SECOND TRIMESTER AND 620 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,840 ONWARD, ENVIRONMENTAL INFLUENCES 621 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,480 ON SYNAPTIC DEVELOPMENT, AT THIS 622 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:10,480 POINT IN TIME WE DO HAVE EXOMAL 623 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,120 AND SYNAPTIC DEVELOPMENT WITH 624 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,520 INFLUENCES BY THE ENVIRONMENT. 625 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,880 IF WE WANT TO MONITOR NEURAL 626 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,280 ACTIVITY SPECIFICALLY WE NEED TO 627 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:25,080 PICK UP ELECTROMAGNETTICS 628 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,880 FIELDS. 629 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,440 BECAUSE OF AMNIOTIC FLUID, 630 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,680 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PICKING UP 631 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,880 MAGNETIC FIELD CHANGE DUE TO 632 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,920 NEURAL ACTIVITY. 633 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,120 AN EXAMPLE OF A SPONTANEOUS 634 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,440 ACTIVITY AFTER REMOVAL OF 635 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,400 MATERNAL AND FETAL HEARTBEAT, 636 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,040 AND RESPONSE TO AUDITORY 637 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,400 STIMULUS WITH FETAL HEAD IS 638 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,080 HERE. 639 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,200 THESE TOOLS ARE CHALLENGING AND 640 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,280 SIGNAL ANALYSIS IS DIFFICULT TO 641 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:58,080 PERFORM MOTION OF THE FETUS AND 642 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,400 MOTHER, NOISE AND CONTAMINATION 643 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,800 FROM THE ENVIRONMENT. 644 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,960 THESE ARE STILL IN EARLY 645 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,880 DEVELOPMENT, I HAVE FAITH AS WE 646 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,800 MOVE FORWARD THERE WILL BE 647 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,680 IMPROVEMENT IN ANALYSIS 648 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,760 TECHNIQUES AND THESE SYSTEMS TO 649 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,640 BE ABLE TO REALLY PICK UP THE 650 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,880 DEVELOPING FETAL NEURAL 651 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,760 ACTIVITY. 652 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,720 IN TERMS OF LOCAL ACTIVITY AND 653 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,120 HOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE 654 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:28,000 NEURAL ACTIVITY ITSELF AS A 655 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,720 COMPLEMENT TO UNDERSTAND RESTING 656 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,880 STATE, I'M SHOWING TYPICALLY 657 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,720 DEVELOPING PERSON ON THE TOP 658 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,640 ROW, CHILD OF CEREBRAL PALSY, 659 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,760 AND THEY WERE WITH DCP, ONE 660 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:53,720 THROUGH FIVE ORGANIZED IN THE 661 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,160 HOMOUNCULUS. 662 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,480 TO PINPOINT WHERE THE NEURAL 663 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,480 ACTIVITY IS OCCURRING DRIVING 664 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,080 THIS DIGITAL FUNCTION WE NEED TO 665 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:11,280 GO AFTER THAT NEURAL ACTIVITY. 666 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,000 DTI SHOWS DIFFERENCES, RSFMRI, 667 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,520 ONE IMPORTANT POINT IN 668 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,160 UNDERSTANDING HOW NEURAL 669 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,520 ACTIVITY DRIVES DEVELOPING 670 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,680 CONNECTIVITY AND ALTERED AXONAL 671 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,520 PRUNING AND SYNAPTIC 672 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,040 REORGANIZATION. 673 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,880 THERE ARE DEVICES OPTICALLY 674 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,240 PUMPED MAGNETOMETERS, THE REASON 675 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,200 THEY ARE ADVANTAGEOUS THEY ARE 676 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,640 LESS EXPENSIVE, PROTOTYPE FIELD 677 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560 MONITOR, THIS IS THE SHIELDED 678 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:50,720 USED TO PICK UP ACTIVITY, SO 679 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,760 ONGOING WORK IS HAPPENING IN 680 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,400 DEVELOPING THESE OPTICALLY 681 00:27:54,400 --> 00:28:00,440 PUMPED MAGNETOMETERS FOR FETAL 682 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,280 MONITORING AND FETAL ACTIVITY. 683 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,680 THIS IS USED FOR THE DEVELOPING 684 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,480 BRAIN, CENTERS CLOSE TO THE 685 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,200 BRAIN. 686 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,520 WORKING WITH COLLABORATORS HERE 687 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:17,800 IN COLORADO TO DEVELOP A SYSTEM, 688 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,800 OPTICALLY PUMPED MAGNETOMETERS 689 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,280 GET CLOSER TO THE BRAIN, STILL A 690 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,840 LOT OF WORK TO DEVELOP THIS BUT 691 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,520 THEN WE CAN DO THE MONITORING 692 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:33,840 WITHOUT LIQUID HELIUM AND 693 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:39,040 DEVICES ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 694 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,240 IN ENGLAND THEY ARE ALSO 695 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,280 WORKING ON THIS, ALLOWING TO 696 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,440 BETTER LOCALIZE NEURAL ACTIVITY, 697 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,400 STILL MUCH TO BE DONE IN FITTING 698 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:56,200 TO THE HEAD SO THE HEAD CAN 699 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,680 MOVE. 700 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,520 THE COUPLING IS POORLY 701 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,920 UNDERSTAND DURING DEVELOPMENT. 702 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,080 WE HAVE NEUROVASCULAR RESPONSES 703 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,960 IN THE CONTEXT OF 704 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:11,880 VASCULOGENESIS, HIGH NEURONAL 705 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:18,360 AND SYNAPTIC DENSITY, THEY 706 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,080 MIGRATE, EVENTUALLY WITH THE 707 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,160 RESPONSES, THOUGHT TO BE 708 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:28,120 CRITICAL IN COULD HAVE -- IN 709 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,520 GOVERNING. 710 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,520 WE DO NOT KNOW WHEN THESE 711 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,440 MECHANISMS FULLY DEVELOP AND 712 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,960 DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY BEGIN TO 713 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,360 WORK AS DESCRIBED IN THE ADULTS. 714 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,960 WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS IN 715 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,800 INTERPRETING FUNCTIONAL 716 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,440 NEUROVASCULAR COUPLING STUDIES 717 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400 IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY MEAN WITH 718 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,480 NEURAL ACTIVITY DURING 719 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:46,800 DEVELOPMENT. 720 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,880 WE DO KNOW WITH fMRI THERE'S A 721 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,480 DIFFERENT HEMODYNAMIC RESPONSE 722 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,000 THAT CHANGES WITH TIME. 723 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,440 WE SEE PRE-TERM IN GREEN, 724 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,280 NEONATE IN RED, TYPICAL ADULT 725 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,640 RESPONSE IN BLUE. 726 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,360 IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND 727 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,920 THERE ARE THESE CHANGES, 728 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,960 ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE DOING 729 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,400 FUNCTIONAL EXPERIMENTS DURING 730 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,800 THIS RAPID DEVELOPMENTAL PHASE 731 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,000 NEED TO USE INDIVIDUAL 732 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,080 HEMODYNAMIC CURVE TO UNDERSTAND 733 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:24,720 WHERE THE NEURAL ACTIVITY IS 734 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,320 ORIGINATING. 735 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,160 THE DEOXY HEMOGLOBIN RESPONSE IS 736 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280 LARGER, SIGNAL INTENSITY GOES 737 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:30,880 DOWN. 738 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:37,320 TYPICAL POSITIVE BLOOD VOLUME, 739 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,960 INCREASES, OXYGEN IS HIGHER. 740 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,240 WE SEE DIFFERENT RESPONSES, 741 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:52,480 NEGATIVE FROM TWO CAUSES, 742 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,040 INSUFFICIENT HYPEREMIA OR 743 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,840 VASOCONSTRICTION, OXYHEMOGLOBIN 744 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,080 INCREASES. 745 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,560 WE'VE EXPLORED THIS IN PRE-TERM 746 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,280 WHERE IS WE SAW NORMAL RESPONSES 747 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,600 AND INVERTED RESPONSES, AND 748 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,280 FOUND THAT AT 4 TO 6 WEEKS IS 749 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,880 THE MOST COMMON TIMES FOR 750 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,680 INVERTED RESPONSE, WITH NORMAL 751 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,320 NADIR, FETAL HEMOGLOBIN 752 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,000 TRANSITIONS TO ADULT HEMOGLOBIN, 753 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,360 HIGH BLOOD FLOW BECAUSE OF LOW 754 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,800 HEMOGLOBIN LEVELS, THEREFORE 755 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,320 VERY LITTLE FUNCTIONAL RESERVE 756 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,280 IN TERMS OF CEREBRAL BLOOD FLOW 757 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,320 DID GIVE RISE TO POSITIVE 758 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,600 RESPONSE. 759 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,560 ANIMAL STUDIES SHOWS BLOOD 760 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920 PRESSURE CHANGES AS WELL. 761 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,880 WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS. 762 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,800 THERE ARE GAPS IN KNOWLEDGE 763 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,400 ABOUT NEUROVASCULAR COUPLING 764 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,880 ESPECIALLY IN DEVELOPING HUMAN 765 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,120 BRAIN, LOCAL AND SYSTEMIC 766 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,440 FACTORS MAY AFFECT DURING THIS 767 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,360 RAPIDLY DEVELOPING TIME PERIOD. 768 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:59,480 WE SEE DEVELOPING FUNCTION OF 769 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,160 CONNECTIVITY, IN VIENNA THEY 770 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,240 HAVE SHOWN ASSOCIATION BETWEEN 771 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,800 CORTICAL FUNCTION ACTIVITY 772 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,640 INCREASING WITH GESTATIONAL AGE, 773 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,080 OCCURRING WHEN YOU EXPECT THE 774 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:23,360 CHILD CORTICAL NEURONS TO ENTER 775 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,880 THE CORTICAL PLATE. 776 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,800 ROIs INCLUDED SUBPLATE. 777 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,920 WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN OUR 778 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,440 INTERPRETATION, WE DON'T KNOW 779 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,280 WHETHER THESE ARE DRIVEN BY 780 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,080 NEURAL ACTIVITY OR BY DEVELOPING 781 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,520 NEUROVASCULAR VOLUME ASSOCIATED 782 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,080 WITH THE CORTICAL -- INSERTION 783 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,680 INTO THE CORTICAL PLATE. 784 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,240 IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT 785 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,680 BALANCING STRUCTURAL FUNCTION 786 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,360 AND CONNECTIVITY AND LEVERAGE TO 787 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,960 UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE 788 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,360 DEVELOPING BRAIN. 789 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,720 THESE ARE A GROUP OF NEONATES WE 790 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,000 STUDIED AND FOUND STRUCTURAL 791 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,240 SUBSTRATE CONNECTIVITY, THEY ARE 792 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,240 LOOKING LIKE THE TYPICAL 793 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:11,880 CONNECTIVITY PATTERNS, BUT AT 794 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,960 BIRTH DRIVEN BY SOMATOSENSORY 795 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,920 AND SALIENT PROCESSING, MULTIPLE 796 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,440 REGIONS AS WE SEE HERE IN THE 797 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,560 ADULT BRAIN. 798 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,280 THIS IS THE IMPORTANT DYNAMIC 799 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,520 RELATION BETWEEN STRUCTURE AND 800 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,680 FUNCTION AT EARLY AGES, WHERE 801 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,440 EARLY ON IN DEVELOPMENT NEURONS 802 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,720 LATER WILL BE REPURPOSED FOR 803 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,120 OTHER TASKS ARE INVOLVED IN 804 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,400 EARLY DEVELOPING FUNCTION. 805 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,000 AND UNDERSTANDING THIS IS 806 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560 SOMETHING WE NEED TO PUSH ON TOO 807 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,360 BECAUSE IDEALLY WE WANT TO KNOW 808 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,240 HOW TO LEVERAGE THESE 809 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,640 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN STRUCTURAL 810 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,360 AND FUNCTIONAL CONNECTIVITY TO 811 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,120 OPTIMIZE LATER FUNCTIONAL 812 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,760 PROCESSING. 813 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:57,760 THOROUGH FIELD OF EXPERIMENTING, 814 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,280 RESTING STATE NETWORKS, USING 815 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,880 PROPAGATION TECHNIQUES TO ALLOW 816 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,960 CONNECTIVENESS INFORMATION TO 817 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,160 PROPAGATE OVER TIME, YOU COULD 818 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,520 PROBE CONNECTIVITY AREAS AND 819 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,080 HAVE LOW CONNECTION STRENGTH, 820 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,280 THEREFORE PLAYING A ROLE IN 821 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,560 OVERALL ANALYSIS WHEN USING ONE 822 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,400 POINT IN TIME. 823 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,400 WE FOUND NO DIFFERENCE IN 824 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,000 STANDARD ACTIVITY BUT PERIPHERAL 825 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,600 CONNECTIONS CAN BE PROBABLY 826 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,560 LONGER TIME, PROPAGATION THROUGH 827 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,520 THESE CONNECTIONS, SIGNIFICANTLY 828 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,480 DIFFERENT IN AUTISM VERSUS 829 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,040 CONTROL, PROBING THESE FEEDER 830 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,360 NETWORKS IS IMPORTANT IN 831 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,680 UNDERSTANDING LATER ADAPTIVITY, 832 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,160 GENETICALLY FORMED NETWORKS, 833 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,120 WHERE PERIPHERAL CONNECTIONS ARE 834 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,080 ADAPTIVE, BEING ABLE TO MONITOR 835 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,760 AND SHAPE THEM IS SOMETHING 836 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,760 REALLY IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD. 837 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,880 NEURONAL METABOLISM, WE'VE 838 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,720 DEVELOPED THESE DEVICES 839 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,680 QUANTITATIVE DEVICES THAT GO TO 840 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,080 THE BEDSIDE USING OXYGEN 841 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,000 SATURATION AND QUANTITATIVE 842 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,160 MEASURES OF CEREBRAL BLOOD FLOW, 843 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,040 OXYGEN CONSUMPTION OF THE 844 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,160 BEDSIDE, GETTING A GOOD IDEA OF 845 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,800 SYNAPTIC DENSITY, FUNCTIONAL OF 846 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,280 THE CORTEX USING THIS. 847 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,080 AND WHEN WE LOOK AT CHANGES OVER 848 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,880 DEVELOPMENT DURING THE FIRST 849 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,040 YEAR DON'T SEE CHANGES IN OXYGEN 850 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,120 SATURATION BUT MEASURING 851 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,240 CONSUMPTION WE SEE INCREASES 852 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:36,560 OVER THE FIRST YEAR PARALLELLING 853 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,280 WHAT WAS PICKED UP WITH PRIOR 854 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,120 STUDIES WITH PET AND NEARING 855 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,040 WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE WITH 856 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,360 SOMATO SYNAPTIC DEVELOPMENT WITH 857 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:53,880 INCREASING OPTIC CONSUMPTION AS 858 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,520 NUMBER OF SYNAPSES INCREASE. 859 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,480 IN FACT MORE RECENTLY WE'VE 860 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,640 LOOKED AT NEONATES WITH 861 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,640 ENCEPHALOPATHY, TREATED WITH 862 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,480 THERAPEUTIC HYPOTHERMIA, HIGHER 863 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,080 CONSUMPTION CORRELATED AT 2 864 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,040 YEARS OF AGE, POST TREATMENT 865 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,640 CMRO2, MEASURING THE SYNAPSES 866 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,840 THAT SURVIVAL AND ARE FUNCTIONAL 867 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,160 AFTER TREMENDOUS, CORRELATED 868 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,320 WITH COGNITIVE OUTCOMES, 869 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,000 OUTPERFORMED MRI BECAUSE 50% OF 870 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,280 MRIs ARE NORMAL FINDINGS, YOU 871 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,360 SEE COGNITIVE SCORE IN THE MILD 872 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,200 RANGE. 873 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,000 THESE MEASURES ARE REALLY THINK 874 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,280 POTENTIAL MEASURE OF PREDICTING 875 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,360 LATER COGNITIVE FUNCTION. 876 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:52,600 WE'RE MOVING TO HIGH TEMPORAL 877 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:58,280 RESOLUTION MONITORING, YOU CAN 878 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,040 SEE CONSUMPTION, EXTRACTION 879 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:06,360 DIFFRACTION, TO BETTER EXPLORE 880 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,920 COUPLING. 881 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,080 YOU SEE TRANSITION FROM AWAKE TO 882 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120 SLEEP, DECREASE IN CMRO2 WITH 883 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,880 THAT TRANSITION. 884 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:19,400 WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT 885 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,360 USING SPECTROSCOPY TO UNDERSTAND 886 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,040 UNDERLYING METABOLIC 887 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:22,320 DEVELOPMENT. 888 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,200 IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND 889 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:32,920 BALANCE BETWEEN EXCITATORY AND 890 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,200 INHIBITORY NEUROTRANSMITTERS. 891 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,080 THOSE PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE 892 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,200 UNDERSTANDING EARLY BRAIN 893 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,800 FUNCTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, 894 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,040 IMPORTANT ROLE IN RESTING NATURE 895 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,760 NEURAL ACTIVITY, GLUTATHIONE 896 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,520 PROVIDES INFORMATION ON 897 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,600 OXIDATIVE STRESS HELPFUL TO 898 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,680 UNDERSTAND HOW NETWORKS ARE 899 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,800 PRUNED AND WHETHER OXIDATIVE 900 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,480 STRESS MAY PLAY A ROLE ON 901 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,720 PRUNING. 902 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,080 MRI PROVIDES INSIGHT, IN TERMS 903 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,960 OF WHAT INTERVENTIONS OR 904 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,760 STRATEGIES WE MIGHT USE TO 905 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,280 OPTIMIZE OUTCOMES. 906 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,240 THESE MOLECULES TARGET IN THE 907 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:14,680 FUTURE STUDIES. 908 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,880 FETAL MOTION TO INFER FUNCTION, 909 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,640 WE'VE BEEN DOING FETAL IMAGING, 910 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:29,080 EVERY THREE SECONDS WE CAN SEE 911 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,080 THE FETUS MOVING. 912 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,280 WE STARTING USING MACHINE 913 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,360 LEARNING STRATEGY TO TRACK 914 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,440 JOINTS AND FETAL MOTION TO 915 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,080 QUANTIFY FETAL MOTION OVER TIME. 916 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,480 AND USING THIS QUANTIFICATION OF 917 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,560 FETAL MOTION WE'VE-STARTING TO 918 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,080 EXPLORE HOW IT CHANGES WITH 919 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,400 DEVELOPMENT. 920 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,520 WHAT WE SEE IN FETUSES LESS THAN 921 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,080 30 GESTATIONAL WEEKS MOTION OF 922 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,360 UPPER EXTREMITY MORE THAN MOTION 923 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,320 OF THE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN 924 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,120 MOTION OF THE LOWER EXTREMITIES. 925 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:04,520 THAT MIGHT BE REFRACTION OF 926 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,560 DEVELOPING NEURAL ACTIVITY. 927 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:12,800 MOVEMENT OF UPPER LIMBS ARE ALSO 928 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,480 ENVIRONMENTALLY DRIVEN. 929 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,560 CORTICOSPINAL TRACK DOESN'T 930 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,920 REACH THE AREA UNTIL 29 OR 30 931 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,480 WEEKS, WE THINK LEG MOVEMENT IS 932 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,160 LOWER BECAUSE OF LACK OF 933 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,680 CORTICOSPINAL TRACK INNERVATION, 934 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,960 WAYS WE CAN UNDERSTAND FETAL 935 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,360 BEHAVIOR IN UTERO AND FUNCTION 936 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,920 BY LOOKING AT PHYSICAL MOTION OF 937 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,960 THE FETUS DURING DEVELOPMENT. 938 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,360 THERE ARE MANY EMERGING TOOLS TO 939 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,240 HELP CHARACTERIZE DEVELOPING 940 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:41,600 BRAIN FUNCTION. 941 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,480 WE NEED TO INTERPRET IN THE 942 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,560 CONTEXT OF KNOWN DEVELOPMENTAL 943 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,800 STAGE. 944 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,960 RESPONSE IN ADULT IS NOT THE 945 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,400 SAME AS RESPONSE IN NEONATE. 946 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200 AGAIN, FETUS BELOW 25 WEEKS 947 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,080 GESTATIONAL AGE IS ENDOGENOUS 948 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,800 ACTIVITY SO WE NEED TO 949 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,480 UNDERSTAND THAT AND BETTER 950 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,640 UNDERSTAND UNDERLYING MECHANISMS 951 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,840 THAT DRIVE DEVELOPMENT OF 952 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,280 NEURONAL ACTIVITY, NEUROVASCULAR 953 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,680 COUPLING AND METABOLISM. 954 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:18,360 THERE'S STILL MUCH UNKNOWN. 955 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,640 THERE'S MUCH TO LEARN BY USING 956 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,720 IMAGING TO GUIDE INTERVENTION 957 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,120 THAT CAN IMPROVE LONG-TERM 958 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,480 OUTCOMES. 959 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,480 I THANK MY TEAM AND 960 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,640 COLLABORATORS AT M.I.T. AND 961 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,680 POSTDOCS AND STUDENTS THAT 962 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,680 HELPED WITH THIS WORK. 963 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,320 THANK YOU. 964 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,640 >> THANK YOU, DR. GRANT. 965 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,680 WE'RE BEHIND SO WE'RE GOING TO 966 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,960 GO RIGHT INTO THE NEXT 967 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,840 PRESENTATION, THE SECOND SPEAKER 968 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,800 DR. NOA OFEN, DIRECTOR OF THE 969 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,120 COGNITIVE AND BRAIN DEVELOPMENT 970 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,040 LABORATORY AT WAYNE STATE 971 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:57,520 UNIVERSITY, INVESTIGATES 972 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,840 STRUCTURAL AND FUNCTIONAL BRAIN 973 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,320 DEVELOPMENT ACROSS A WIDE AGE 974 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,680 RANGE OF TYPICALLY DEVELOPING 975 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,600 CHILDREN AND ADULTS, USING TESTS 976 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,520 OF COGNITIVE ABILITIES COMBINED 977 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,720 WITH NEUROIMAGING TECHNIQUES, 978 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:14,440 RESEARCH PROGRAM AIMS TO 979 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:14,880 ELUCIDATE MECHANISMS 980 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,440 CONTRIBUTING TO HUMAN MEMORY 981 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,160 DEVELOPMENT CHARACTERIZED HOW 982 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,480 CHANGES IN THE FUNCTIONAL AND 983 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,080 STRUCTURAL ORGANIZATION OF THE 984 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,720 BRAIN SUPPORTS GROWTH TO ENCODE, 985 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:27,760 MAINTAIN, RETRIEVE INFORMATION. 986 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,560 SHE ALSO INVESTIGATES 987 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,320 ENVIRONMENTAL AND GENETIC 988 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,240 FACTORS THAT ACT AS MODIFIERS OF 989 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,680 TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT AND PURSUES 990 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,960 RAMIFICATIONS FOR CLINICAL 991 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,720 POPULATIONS SUCH AS CHILDREN 992 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,720 WITH EPILEPSY. 993 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,280 CONDUCTED RESEARCH AND STANFORD 994 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,280 AND M.I.T. BEFORE JOINING WAYNE 995 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,520 STATE IN 2011. 996 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,000 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 997 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,560 SO, IN MY TALK I'M GOING TO -- 998 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,560 FIRST, THANK YOU FOR THE 999 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,960 INVITATION TO SPEAK IN THIS 1000 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,400 EXCITING WORKSHOP. 1001 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,800 AND I WANT TO TAKE IT TO OLDER 1002 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,120 AGE, THE FOCUS I'M GOING TO BE 1003 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,400 TAKING ON THE CHALLENGE OF 1004 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,960 LINKING WITHIN COGNITION AND 1005 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,640 BRAIN DEVELOPMENT. 1006 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,920 THE CHILD COMES INTO THE WORLD 1007 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,400 WITH VERY LIMITED ABILITY TO 1008 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,760 INTERACT, OVER UNFOLDING OF MANY 1009 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,760 PROCESSES LEARN TO WALK, TALK, 1010 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,080 CRIME, FORMAL EDUCATION, READ, 1011 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,480 WRITE, MATH, CHESS, MUSIC, MAYBE 1012 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:46,080 GET TO NEUROSCIENCE, UNDERLYING 1013 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,720 ABILITIES IS UNFOLDING OF MANY 1014 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:51,320 DEVELOPMENTAL PROCESSES 1015 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,760 SUPPORTED BY DEVELOPMENT OF THE 1016 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,080 BRAIN. 1017 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,680 THE BIG QUESTION I POSE IN MY 1018 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,680 RESEARCH, TRYING TO MAP THOSE 1019 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,320 COGNITIVE DEVELOPMENTAL CHANGES 1020 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,280 TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BRAIN. 1021 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,000 IN A WAY YESTERDAY WE TALKED 1022 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,920 ABOUT THE BIG QUESTION, MODEL 1023 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,040 SYSTEMS, SO IN A WAY WHAT I'M 1024 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,000 DOING IS LIMITING THIS BIG SPACE 1025 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,440 OF COGNITION INTO JUST BEING 1026 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,600 INTERESTED IN MEMORY AND 1027 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,280 DEVELOPMENT OF MEMORY. 1028 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,880 TO DO THIS WE NEED TO BE VERY 1029 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,640 CAREFUL IN CHARACTERIZING 1030 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,280 MEMORY, CHARACTERIZING COGNITIVE 1031 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,600 SPACE WE'RE TRYING TO MAP, HOW 1032 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,880 DOES BRAIN FUNCTION GIVE RISE 1033 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,480 TO, AND IN THIS TALK THE FOCUS 1034 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,240 IS GOING TO BE ON BRAIN 1035 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,520 FUNCTION, USING FUNCTIONAL BRAIN 1036 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,480 METHODS SUCH AS FUNCTIONAL MRI, 1037 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,880 INTRACRANIAL AS I'LL SHOW LATER, 1038 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,720 THINKING ABOUT BRAIN FUNCTION 1039 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:50,000 USING TO LOOK AT NEURAL 1040 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,920 CORRELATES UNDERLYING COGNITIVE 1041 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,080 PROCESSES. 1042 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,880 WE'VE HAD TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY 1043 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,520 THAT REALLY WE CAN ALSO QUANTIFY 1044 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,760 SIGNAL WORK LOOKING AT THE BRAIN 1045 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,280 STRUCTURE OF CHANGES SUCH AS ONE 1046 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,600 PRESENTED EARLIER IN THE 1047 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,280 INTRODUCTORY REMARKS TO THIS 1048 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,480 SESSION BY DR. JERNIGAN, AND 1049 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,360 PRESIDENT -- THE WAY I THINK, 1050 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,280 THEY PROVIDE CONSTRAINTS TO THE 1051 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,200 BUILDUP OF CAPACITY, COGNITIVE 1052 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,880 CAPACITY ACROSS THE LIFESPAN. 1053 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,760 SO, WE FOCUS ON BRAIN FUNCTION, 1054 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,080 I'M GOING TO SHOW THE ONE 1055 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,240 EXAMPLE, FIRST WHAT'S VERY 1056 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,400 EXCITING ABOUT BRAIN FUNCTION WE 1057 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,280 CAN TAKE SNAPSHOTS OF THE BRAIN 1058 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,080 AND FUNCTION, FOR EXAMPLE IN 1059 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,320 MEMORY ACROSS DIFFERENT STAGES 1060 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,680 OF THE MEMORY FROM ENCODING TO 1061 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,040 THE STORAGE AND MEMORY RETRIEVAL 1062 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,480 WITH NO FUNCTIONAL NEUROIMAGING, 1063 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,680 PROVIDING MORE THAN PERFORMANCE 1064 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,080 ALONE. 1065 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:57,400 AN EXAMPLE, SHOWING PICTURES, 1066 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,040 ASKING PARTS TO LABEL, SO WE 1067 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,520 KNOW THEY ARE PAYING ATTENTION, 1068 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,640 ALSO ASK OUTSIDE THE SCANNER 1069 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,440 WHETHER THEY REMEMBER, SOME DO, 1070 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,400 SOME FORGET, WHICH ALLOWS US TO 1071 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,520 SORT BRAIN SIGNALS RECORDED WHEN 1072 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,160 THEY STUDIED THE PICTURES BASED 1073 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,840 ON SUBSEQUENT MEMORY OF THE 1074 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,960 PICTURES, GIVING US A CONTRAST 1075 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,760 TO SEE WHAT THE BRAIN WAS DOING 1076 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,960 WHEN THEY LATER REMEMBERED 1077 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,360 COMPARED TO WHEN THEY LATER 1078 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:25,760 FORGOT. 1079 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,760 BEFORE WE GO AND LOOK AT WHAT 1080 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,920 THE BRAIN WAS DOING, IT'S 1081 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,680 IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT 1082 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,760 THE AGE DIFFERENCES BECAUSE WE 1083 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,120 WANT TO UNDERSTAND, GET THE 1084 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,200 CORRELATES OF WHAT COULD 1085 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,400 COGNITIVELY BECOME MORE ABLE TO 1086 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,920 DO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE 1087 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,680 AGE RANGES I FOCUS ON, ABOUT 5, 1088 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:58,280 ALL THE WAY IN A CROSS-SECTIONAL 1089 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,080 CONTINUOUS VARIABLE, WE SEE THAT 1090 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,880 THERE IS INDEED AN INCREASE IN 1091 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,880 THE ACCURACY, INCREASE IN MEMORY 1092 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,240 PERFORMANCES. 1093 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:09,960 NOW WE HAVE BRAIN MEASURES TO 1094 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,080 LOOK AT WHAT EXPANSES, THE FIRST 1095 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,480 QUESTION WE WERE ASKING IS 1096 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,960 WHEREAS IN WHERE IN THE BRAIN 1097 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,520 DOES MEMORY ACTIVATION DIFFER BY 1098 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:19,720 AGE. 1099 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:20,560 BUT WHAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND 1100 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,000 IS HOW. 1101 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,880 HOW DOES THE BRAIN SUPPORT 1102 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:31,680 MEMORY AND I'LL GET TO THE HOW 1103 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:31,960 LATER. 1104 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,920 THIS IS THE FIRST STUDY ON TRIAL 1105 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,240 BY TRIAL LEVEL LOOKING AT WHAT 1106 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:38,680 WAS REMEMBERED VERSUS FORGOTTEN 1107 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,920 ACROSS ALL INDIVIDUALS WHO FOUND 1108 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,680 ACTIVATIONS WE EXPECT IN THE 1109 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,520 MEDIAL TEMPORAL LOBE, CRUCIAL 1110 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,920 FOR MEMORY, HIPPOCAMPUS IN 1111 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,280 AMNESIA, PRE-FRONTAL CORTEX, 1112 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,520 ALSO IMPORTANT FOR MEMORY, 1113 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,240 SPECIFIC SUBTLE EFFECTS ON 1114 00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:03,680 MEMORY THAT HAPPEN TO BE THOSE 1115 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,280 MORE PROTRACTED ACROSS 1116 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:05,720 DEVELOPMENT. 1117 00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,120 WHEN WE LOOK ACROSS AGE WE FIND 1118 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,960 ACTIVATIONS IN THE MEDIAL 1119 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,200 TEMPORAL LOBE WAS STABLE ACROSS 1120 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,920 AGE BUT DID FIND INCREASE IN 1121 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,000 REGIONS IN THE PREFRONTAL CORTEX 1122 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,120 IN THE WAY THEY SUPPORT 1123 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:18,520 SUBSEQUENT MEMORY. 1124 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,360 LEADING US TO THINK THE 1125 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,800 FUNCTIONAL MATURATION OF THE 1126 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,840 PREFRONTAL CORTEX IS RELATED TO 1127 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,440 MEMORY DEVELOPMENT, MIRRORING 1128 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,280 STRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE 1129 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,520 KNOW IS MORE PROTRACTED FOR 1130 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,240 THESE REGIONS, SPECIFICALLY 1131 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,320 PRE-FRONT CORTEX. 1132 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,600 SO WE KNOW, WE WANT TO MOVE 1133 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:45,480 BEYOND THAT INCREASING OUR LENS, 1134 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,480 FOCUSING ON PREFRONTAL CORTEX 1135 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,880 INCREASING MEASURES WE'RE 1136 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,920 LOOKING INTO BASED ON WHAT 1137 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,280 ADVANCES IN RESEARCH. 1138 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,640 YOU SEE ACTIVATION ACROSS A 1139 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,040 LARGER SAMPLE IN PREFRONTAL 1140 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,120 CORTEX, POSITIVE REGIONS IN 1141 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,400 WHICH WE HAVE MORE ACTIVATION TO 1142 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,280 REMEMBER COMPARED TO LATER 1143 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,760 FORGOT, ALSO SEE ROBUST 1144 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,160 BLUE-COLORED REGION HERE, 1145 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,080 REGIONS WITH INCREASED 1146 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,680 DEACTIVATION FOR HITS COMPARED 1147 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,560 TO MISSES. 1148 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,600 TURNS OUT TO BE BOTH IMPORTANT 1149 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,800 FOR THE AGE DIFFERENCES, 1150 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,080 SUPPORTING AGE DIFFERENCES IN 1151 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:22,320 ACCURACY. 1152 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,280 SO IN THIS CASE WE CAN SEE THAT 1153 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,440 WITH AGES INCREASE IN ACTIVATION 1154 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,400 FOR HIT BUT ALSO ROBUST INCREASE 1155 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,560 IN DEACTIVATIONS FOR HITS, AMONG 1156 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,160 SUPERIOR FRONTAL REGIONS, IT WAS 1157 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,520 SPECIFICALLY THESE REGIONS THAT 1158 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,680 EXPAND AGE-RELATED IMPROVEMENT 1159 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,440 OR DEVELOPMENT OR GAINS IN 1160 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,280 PERFORMANCE, TAKES US TO WHERE, 1161 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,560 HOW COULD THAT BE, AND MAYBE 1162 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,080 LINK TO REGIONS DOING MORE 1163 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:51,880 THOUGHT SUPPRESSION AND THINKING 1164 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,480 IT'S NOT JUST YOU NEED TO PAY 1165 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,360 MORE ATTENTION BUT MAYBE REDUCE 1166 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:02,160 OR BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY ENGAGE 1167 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,560 INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS TO PERFORM 1168 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:04,800 OVERALL. 1169 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,200 MORE INTO MOVING FORWARD FROM 1170 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,840 THE WHERE IS LOOKING AT ANALYSIS 1171 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,560 LOOKING AT BRAIN CONNECTIVITY, 1172 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,880 FUNCTIONAL BRAIN CONNECTIVITY, 1173 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,840 THE FUNCTION, THERE'S MORE FOR 1174 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,480 SUBSEQUENTLY REMEMBERED COMPARED 1175 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,000 TO SUBSEQUENTLY FORGOTTEN ITEMS. 1176 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,400 AND WHAT WE FIND THOSE THAT AGE 1177 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,040 DIFFERENCES IN THE CONNECTIVITY 1178 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,680 PATTERNS OF BOTH POSITIVE AND 1179 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,080 NEGATIVE SUBSEQUENT MEMORY, IN 1180 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,800 BOTH CASES WITH AGE THOSE WERE 1181 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,560 MORE CONNECTED, RESPECTIVELY, 1182 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,840 WITH MEDIAL TEMPORAL LOBE. 1183 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,120 NOW WE TAKE IT INTO A MORE 1184 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,720 NETWORK PHENOMENA THAT EXPLAINS 1185 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:40,600 AGE-RELATED INCREASES IN 1186 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,680 COGNITION IN THIS CASE MEMORY. 1187 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,720 WE WANTED TO KNOW HOW BRAIN 1188 00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:48,280 ACTIVITY SUPPORTS MEMORY 1189 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,920 DEVELOPMENT, WOULDN'T IT BE 1190 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,680 GREAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO 1191 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,480 DIRECTLY RECORD ACTIVITY, BRAIN 1192 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,840 ACTIVITY, FROM THE DEVELOPING 1193 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,440 BRAIN AS THEY ENGAGE IN 1194 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,040 COGNITIVE TASKS, AN OPPORTUNITY 1195 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,040 THAT WE JUMPED ON ABOUT FIVE OR 1196 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,920 SIX YEARS AGO IN COLLABORATION 1197 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:20,120 WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN 1198 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,360 AND DR. NGAI AND DR. JOHNSON AT 1199 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,480 NORTHWEST AND BERKELEY, 1200 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,760 RECORDING DATA FROM THE BRAIN OF 1201 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,720 INDIVIDUALS UNDERGOING BRAIN 1202 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,000 MAPPING AS PART OF EPILEPSY 1203 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,000 CLINICAL TREATMENT, AND WHAT 1204 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,600 THAT GIVES US NOW SPATIALLY 1205 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,120 LOCALIZED TEMPORAL RECORDINGS OF 1206 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,320 BRAIN ACTIVITY. 1207 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,760 THESE PATIENTS WOULD UNDERGO 1208 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,040 EXACT SAME OR SIMILAR TASKS THAT 1209 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,160 I'VE JUST SPENT TIME DESCRIBING 1210 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,080 TO YOU, AND WE CAN ASK, OKAY, 1211 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,480 HOW IS BRAIN ACTIVITY SUPPORTING 1212 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,080 SUBSEQUENT MEMORY. 1213 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,720 STARTED BY FOCUSING ON PRE-FRONT 1214 00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,560 CORTEX AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WE 1215 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,360 HAVE QUITE A SPARSE COVERAGE OF 1216 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,080 ELECTRODES ACROSS INDIVIDUALS, 1217 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,440 BRINGING THEM TOGETHER, YOU CAN 1218 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,080 SEE WITHIN THIS FIRST STUDY WE 1219 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,320 PUBLISHED WITH 17 CHILDREN AND 1220 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,320 ADOLESCENTS, NICE COVERAGE 1221 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,960 ACROSS PRE-FRONT CORTEX, ABLE TO 1222 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,720 LOOK NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME, 1223 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:18,000 PRECISE TIMING, WHAT YOU SEE 1224 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:24,480 HERE IS HIGH FREQUENCY ACTIVITY, 1225 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,880 RESPONSE TO ENCODING TASK, THIS 1226 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,960 IS THE WHITE LINE, YOU CAN SEE 1227 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:37,600 THIS ACTIVITY IN THE FRONTAL 1228 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,040 CORTEX, WHILE TRACKING, WAS 1229 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,200 PRECEDING THE RESPONSE AND WHAT 1230 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:48,520 WAS EXCITING TO US IS TO THOUGH 1231 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,520 THAT THOSE LATENCY, TIMING IN 1232 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,880 THE GYRUS, RELATED TO 1233 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,800 DEVELOPMENTAL GAINS IN MEMORY, 1234 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,880 THOSE THAT HAD EARLIER ACTIVITY, 1235 00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,800 THOSE PERFORMED BETTER AND 1236 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,200 SPECIFICALLY THOSE THAT WERE 1237 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,720 OLDER AND HAD ACTIVITY EARLIER, 1238 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,120 PARTICULARLY WERE PERFORMING 1239 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,680 BETTER, COMPARED TO PARTICIPANTS 1240 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:17,200 NOT AS FAST IN THE YOUNGER 1241 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,040 CHILDREN, PRECISE TIMING OF 1242 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,880 BRAIN ACTIVITY RELATING TO 1243 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,880 MEMORY DEVELOPMENT. 1244 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,480 WE ALSO LOOKED AT SPECTRAL 1245 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,720 COMPOSITION LOOKING FOR HITS AND 1246 00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:29,440 MISSES, EXAMPLES TO OTHER 1247 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,040 REGIONS, WE DID NOT FIND ROBUST 1248 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,520 EFFECT ACROSS INDIVIDUALS BUT 1249 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,200 DID FIND A LOT OF DIVERSITY, 1250 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,480 DIVERSITY WAS AMONG, YOU CAN SEE 1251 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,720 HERE IN TWO EXAMPLES FROM 1252 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:43,760 6-YEAR-OLD AND 19-YEAR-OLD, 1253 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,600 DIVERSITY WAS ROBUST BETWEEN THE 1254 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,000 TWO ELECTRODES, BETWEEN TIME 1255 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,800 POINTS, BETWEEN FREQUENCY 1256 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,480 RANGES, BUT AMOUNT OF DIVERSITY 1257 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,480 WAS QUITE SIMILAR ACROSS 1258 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:53,760 INDIVIDUALS. 1259 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,760 LEAVING US WITH MORE WORK TO DO 1260 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,080 TO QUANTIFY EFFECTS THAT ARE 1261 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,560 MORE ROBUST IN SUBSEQUENT 1262 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:01,880 MEMORY. 1263 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,720 WE WERE INTERESTED IN 1264 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:06,760 IDENTIFYING EFFECTS RELATED TO 1265 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,000 MEMORY ACTIVITY FROM MEDIAL 1266 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,720 TEMPORAL LOBE ACTIVATION, HERE 1267 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,080 LOOKING AT THE SPECTRAL 1268 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,240 DECOMPOSITION FOR HITS AND MISS, 1269 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:18,720 DOING THE DIRECT CONTRAST WE DID 1270 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:24,720 FIND TWO FREQUENCIES, LOW 1271 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:27,800 FREQUENCY RANGES, THAT SHOWED 1272 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,680 MEMORY EFFECT ACROSS ALL 1273 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,000 INDIVIDUALS. 1274 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,680 HERE YOU CAN SEE RESPONSES, RAW 1275 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,480 DATA FROM A 6-YEAR-OLD, AND 1276 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,640 19-YEAR-OLD, FILTERED FOR TWO 1277 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,600 SEPARATE, FOR HIGH AND LOW 1278 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,880 FREQUENCY, AND OVER HERE SHOWING 1279 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,760 SLOW AND FAST IN THE TWO ENDS OF 1280 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,720 THE FREQUENCIES ACROSS ALL 1281 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:54,760 INDIVIDUALS, AND MANY ELECTRODES 1282 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,680 IN WHICH WE IDENTIFIED, 1283 00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,400 STRIKINGLY THOSE, WE FOUND 1284 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,240 SELECTIONS VARIED AS FUNCTION OF 1285 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:12,840 AGE IN BOTH MEDIAL TEMPORAL 1286 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,920 L OBE, SUGGESTING BRAIN 1287 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,840 DEVELOPMENT IS ASSOCIATE WITH 1288 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,160 DIFFERENTIATION OF THE 1289 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,040 SELECTIONS, THIS IS REALLY 1290 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,240 INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT 1291 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:27,640 BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT BOTH OF 1292 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,480 THESE FREQUENCIES WAS IMPORTANT 1293 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:40,080 IN THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN 1294 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,040 MEDIAL TEMPORAL LOBE AND 1295 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,080 PREFRONTAL CORTEX. 1296 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:53,280 FOR TWO OF THESE WE HAVE PRECISE 1297 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,600 TIMING FOR THESE EFFECTS, IN 1298 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,520 SLOW AND FAST DATA, SPECIFICALLY 1299 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,680 AGAIN RELATED OR EXPLAINING 1300 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,080 DEVELOPMENTAL GAINS IN MEMORY 1301 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,880 PERFORMANCE SUCH AS THOSE 1302 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,800 EFFECTS WERE STRONGER AMONG 1303 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,000 OLDER PARTICIPANTS BETTER 1304 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,680 PERFORMING THE TASK. 1305 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:22,040 ALSO WITH OVERALL SUGGESTING 1306 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,560 MEDIAL TEMPORAL PREFRONTAL 1307 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,880 CORTEX INTERACT. 1308 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,720 ALSO INTERESTED, WE HAVE 1309 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:30,480 OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT EFFECTS 1310 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:36,040 HAPPENING AT THE VERY ENTRY. 1311 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,280 EXCUSE ME, SOMETHING SHARED THE 1312 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:48,040 SCREEN, AM I CORRECT? 1313 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:54,400 I HAVE LOST MY SCREEN? 1314 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,240 >> SOMEBODY ELSE STARTED 1315 00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:55,520 SHARING. 1316 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,960 DO YOU MIND PULLING YOUR SLIDES 1317 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,040 BACK UP? 1318 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,800 >> ARE THEY GOOD NOW? 1319 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,360 >> YES, WE'RE GOOD. 1320 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 1321 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:11,280 WE ALSO HAVE COVERAGE IN THE 1322 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,320 OCCIPITAL CORTEX AND CAN ASK 1323 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,240 FURTHER QUESTIONS. 1324 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:22,680 FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN SEPARATE BY 1325 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,240 THE MORE VISUAL/VISUAL AND 1326 00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:27,880 CONCEPTUAL FEATURES, INTERESTING 1327 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,880 BECAUSE AS IT COMES TO 1328 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,120 QUANTIFYING COGNITION WE FOUND 1329 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,880 THAT IT'S JUST FOR THE HIGH 1330 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,680 COMPLEXITY SCENES, BY THE NUMBER 1331 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,720 OF UNIQUE CATEGORIES, WHERE WE 1332 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:42,160 SEE IN PERFORMANCE AGE GAINS. 1333 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:54,680 LOW COMPLEXITY SEEM TO BE ABLE. 1334 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,080 LOOKING IN LOW FREQUENCY, 1335 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,600 SPANNING SPECIFICALLY THE ALPHA 1336 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:04,080 FREQUENCY WHICH IS IMPORTANT IN 1337 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:04,960 OCCIPITAL ACTIVITY, WE INDEED 1338 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,800 FOUND IT WAS AN INTERACTION OF 1339 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,320 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HIGH 1340 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,320 COMPLEXITY AND LOW COMPLEXITY 1341 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,440 WITH AGE SUCH AS DECREASE IN 1342 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,040 POWER FOR THE ALPHA RANGE OR 1343 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,000 DESYNCHRONIZATION IN HIGH 1344 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,320 FREQUENCY RANGE INCREASED WITH 1345 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,680 AGE SO WE HAVE INCREASE IN 1346 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,720 REDUCED POWER AND AGAIN THIS IS 1347 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,080 SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THE HIGH 1348 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,080 COMPLEXITY, NOT FOR LOW 1349 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:35,400 COMPLEXITY. 1350 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,760 EXPLAINED DEVELOPMENTAL GAINS IN 1351 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,320 MEMORY. 1352 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,400 THAT IS THE OLDER PARTICIPANTS 1353 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,160 WHO PERFORMED BETTER SHOWED MORE 1354 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:48,080 OF THIS EFFECT. 1355 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,840 SO NOW WE HAVE fMRI A 1356 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,200 FANTASTIC PLACE TO GAIN INSIGHT 1357 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,400 ABOUT WHAT ARE CORRELATES OF 1358 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,920 DEVELOPMENT IN COGNITION, WE 1359 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,000 HAVE INTRACRANIAL RECORDINGS 1360 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,840 THAT GAVE US LOCALIZATION AND 1361 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,680 PRECISE TIMING ACROSS 1362 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,680 DEVELOPMENT TO IDENTIFY 1363 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,280 NEUROPHYSIOLOGICAL MECHANISMS AS 1364 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,560 I'VE SHOWN INITIAL SUCCESSES TO 1365 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,200 THIS END THAT ARE LINKED TO 1366 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,440 MEMORY DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK 1367 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,200 ONE OF THE EXCITING 1368 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,160 OPPORTUNITIES STILL LYING AHEAD, 1369 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,120 HAVING THIS PRECISE LOCALIZATION 1370 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:38,040 AND TIMING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO 1371 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,720 RETHINK ASPECT OF COGNITION. 1372 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,160 I LIKED YESTERDAY'S PEOPLE 1373 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,360 ENDING WITH LIKE WHAT ARE 1374 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,680 ASCENDING CHALLENGES, WHERE DO 1375 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,000 WE LIVE AND IT WAS WONDERFUL 1376 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,680 POINTERS, IN THE INTRODUCTORY 1377 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,560 COMMENTS, IN EACH OF THE -- IN 1378 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,880 DR. GRANT'S TALK EARLIER, I'LL 1379 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,560 ADD IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE 1380 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:01,800 ABLE TO LOOK AT LONGITUDINAL 1381 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:02,880 DATA. 1382 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,640 WE CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT 1383 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,120 CHANGE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO 1384 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,680 TAKE THE SAME INDIVIDUALS, 1385 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,960 LONGITUDINAL DATA, CHALLENGES, 1386 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:18,880 IN TERMS OF PROPER ANALYSIS AND 1387 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,280 INTERPRETATION, IT'S ALWAYS 1388 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,080 POSSIBLE IN INTRACRANIAL DATA, 1389 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,520 LONGITUDINAL, SO SHOULD BE 1390 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:32,160 PAIRED WITH FUNCTIONAL MRI 1391 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:53,240 STUDIES, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL 1392 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,560 OF ISSUES. 1393 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,880 AS COMES TO THE BRAIN SIMILAR 1394 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,680 CONCEPTS APPLY BUT IT'S REALLY 1395 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,120 ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES 1396 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,040 CLOSING THE GAP ACROSS SCALES, 1397 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,040 LEVELS OF ORGANIZATION, 1398 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:06,800 REMINDING OURSELVES LIMITATIONS 1399 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,520 FOR EACH OF THE MEASUREMENTS WE 1400 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:14,000 BRING INTO THE TABLE, AND ALSO 1401 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,320 MINDFUL ON RELIABILITY ISSUES, 1402 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,800 COGNITION, BECAUSE PEOPLE DRINK 1403 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,360 COFFEE OR NOT, IN TERMS OF 1404 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,520 CHILD, BAD DAY OR GOOD DAY, 1405 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,280 THOSE HAVE TO BE ASPECTS THAT WE 1406 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:31,920 ARE MINDFUL THAT WE CANNOT 1407 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,040 ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THE SOURCES OF 1408 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,280 VIABILITY, LARGE DATASETS ARE OF 1409 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:46,400 COURSE ONE WAY TO GET BY, SAME 1410 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,280 FOR THE BRAIN, AND ONCE WE HAVE 1411 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,040 THESE IN PLACE WOULD BE ABLE 1412 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,520 TO -- AS WE STRIVE WE'LL BE 1413 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,080 BETTER ABLE TO UNDERSTAND 1414 01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,000 MODIFIERS OF DEVELOPMENT ACROSS 1415 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,320 TIME SCALES AND ORGANIZATION. 1416 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,320 I'M GOING TO END BY THANKING MY 1417 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,120 LARGE TEAM IN THE LAB AND 1418 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,000 COLLABORATORS AND FUNDING 1419 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,080 MECHANISMS THAT SUPPORTED THIS 1420 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:11,400 WORK. 1421 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:11,960 THANK YOU. 1422 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:12,680 >> THANK YOU. 1423 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:13,800 ANOTHER WONDERFUL TALK. 1424 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,760 WE'RE RUNNING BEHIND SO I'M 1425 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,480 GOING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. 1426 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,520 NEXT SPEAKER IS DR. GEORGE 1427 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,480 DRAGOI, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF 1428 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,080 PSYCHIATRY AND NEUROSCIENCE, 1429 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,560 DEPARTMENT OF PSYCHIATRY AND 1430 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,680 MEMBER OF THE WUSI INSTITUTE AT 1431 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,160 YALE UNIVERSITY, M.D. FROM 1432 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:43,520 UNIVERSITY OF MEDICINE AND 1433 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,840 PHARMACY IN ROMANIA AND Ph.D. 1434 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:47,480 IN BEHAVIORAL NEUROSCIENCE FROM 1435 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,720 RUTGERS UNIVERSITY WHERE HE 1436 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:58,280 WORKED IN THE LABORATORY OF DR. 1437 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,480 PAZAKI, COMPLETED POSTDOCTORAL 1438 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:04,280 STUDIES IN M.I.T., REVEALED 1439 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,360 EXISTENCE OF PRE-CONFIGURED 1440 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,800 CELLULAR ASSEMBLIES, SPATIAL 1441 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,680 SEQUENCES IN FUTURE EXPERIENCE 1442 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,160 IN NAIVE ANIMALS. 1443 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,200 LET'S GET RIGHT TO IT. 1444 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,720 >> THANK YOU FOR THE 1445 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:23,080 INTRODUCTION. 1446 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,480 THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO THE 1447 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:26,720 WORKSHOP. 1448 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,720 MY LAB IS INTERESTED IN 1449 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:30,840 UNDERSTANDING THE NEURAL 1450 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,640 MECHANISMS OF LEARNING AND 1451 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:36,200 MEMORY. 1452 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,040 PARTICULARLY WITH RATS, TO STUDY 1453 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,240 THAT. 1454 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,640 I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 25 1455 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,880 YEARS, AND MOSTLY USING ADULT 1456 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,280 ANIMALS BUT SINCE TEN YEARS AGO 1457 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,000 STARTED DEVELOPMENTAL APPROACH 1458 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:56,880 I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT 1459 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:57,760 TODAY. 1460 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:03,320 SO, MEMORY IS FORMED INTO 1461 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:08,040 STAGES, ENCODED. 1462 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,480 IT IS BELIEVED AND THIS 1463 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,720 SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF 1464 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:17,240 INFORMATION ABOUT THIS 1465 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:26,040 (INDISCERNIBLE) 1466 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:31,080 HERE'S A RODENT MODEL OF 1467 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,840 ENCODING AND CONSOLIDATION AS 1468 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:41,760 ANIMALS EXPLORE LINEAR TRACK. 1469 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:48,960 THESE ARE NEURONS. 1470 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:49,920 THIS IS UNFOLDING 1471 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:59,560 [ GARBLED AUDIO ] 1472 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,280 AS THE ANIMAL GOES TO SLEEP OR 1473 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,880 RESTING, THE PROCESS OF MEMORY 1474 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,560 CONSOLIDATION IS BEING 1475 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:06,840 INITIATED. 1476 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:07,600 THE SAME NATIONAL HURRICANE 1477 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,640 CENTER CAN FIRE IN THE SAME 1478 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,920 ORDER IN A MUCH FASTER TIME 1479 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,320 SCALE AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXACT 1480 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:18,160 SAME NEURONS ARE 20 TIMES 1481 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,120 FASTER, BEING REPLAYED, DURING 1482 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,720 SLEEP, IT IS BELIEVED THIS TYPE 1483 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:28,280 OF INFORMATION IS REQUIRED AND 1484 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:37,360 IT'S ENFORCING THROUGH WAY OF 1485 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,600 AUTONOMOUS INFORMATION, THIS 1486 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,080 TIME COMPRESSION WAS SOMETHING 1487 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,800 SPECIFIC THAT CAN ONLY BE 1488 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,720 OCCURRING IN THIS SLEEP 1489 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:46,240 SESSIONS. 1490 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:51,280 HOWEVER, SEVERAL YEARS LATER 1491 01:04:51,280 --> 01:05:00,000 WE'VE SHOWN DURING DATA 1492 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:00,280 OSCILLATION 1493 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,680 [ GARBLED AUDIO ] 1494 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,720 THIS TYPE OF COMPRESSION HAS 1495 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,920 OCCURRED DURING PROCESS OF 1496 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:13,120 ENCODING, HERE IS CARTOON 1497 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,200 DESCRIPTION OF OSCILLATION, YOU 1498 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,120 CAN SEE THE SAME NEURONS FIRE 1499 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,840 NOW WITHIN DATA CYCLE. 1500 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,680 SO THIS IS ABOUT SIMILAR TYPE OF 1501 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,760 TEMPORAL COMPRESSION, I WOULD 1502 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,400 SAY ABOUT 15 TIMES COMPRESSED. 1503 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,080 YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT WE CALL 1504 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:35,400 DATA SEQUENCES, THESE SEQUENCES 1505 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,680 THAT OCCUR DURING THETA, MAP 1506 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,440 DISTANCES BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL 1507 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,640 LOCATIONS ALONG THE TRAJECTORY 1508 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,640 OF THE ANIMAL, ABOUT ONE ORDER 1509 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:46,560 OF MAGNITUDE FASTER TIME SCALE 1510 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:47,640 COMPARED TO WHAT HAPPENED IN 1511 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:48,600 SPACE. 1512 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,080 THERE'S A SPECIAL TO TEMPORAL 1513 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,840 COMPRESSION OF INFORMATION 1514 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,200 COMPRESSED DURING THE ENCODING 1515 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,000 AND DURING THE CONSOLIDATION. 1516 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,640 EVEN MORE INTERESTINGLY, WE'VE 1517 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,480 SHOWN THAT IN FACT THE SAME 1518 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,400 SEQUENCES, THE SAME NEURONS CAN 1519 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:14,080 FIRE IN SIMILAR SEQUENCES IN 1520 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,520 SLEEP PRECEDING FIRST-TIME 1521 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,480 EXPRESSION OF SEQUENCES ON DE 1522 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,200 NOVO RUN, ANIMALS KEPT NAIVE 1523 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,280 THROUGHOUT THE LIFETIME, THESE 1524 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,480 ARE ADULTS, THE VERY FIRST TIME 1525 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,520 ON THE LINEAR TRACK THE NETWORK 1526 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,080 EXPRESSES SEQUENCE OF NEURONAL 1527 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,080 FIRING, COULD HAVE BEEN OBSERVED 1528 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,240 EVEN BEFORE. 1529 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,960 SO WE THESE EVENTS REPLAY, 1530 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,400 DISTINGUISHED FROM PREVIOUS, WE 1531 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,680 THINK THIS IS PROOF THAT 1532 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,080 PRE-CONFIGURED EVEN IN ADULT 1533 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,880 NAIVE ANIMALS, INTO TEMPORAL 1534 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,240 SEQUENCE MOTIFS, SOME WILL BE 1535 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,520 RECRUITED AND ASSOCIATED WITH 1536 01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,600 INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS OR EVENTS 1537 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,600 THAT HAPPENED ALONG THIS 1538 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,880 EXPERIENCE AND THEN THEY BECOME 1539 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,080 MORE OF AN INDEX, CAN LATER BE 1540 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,920 USED TO RETRIEVE THAT 1541 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:07,480 INFORMATION. 1542 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,640 AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS 1543 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:14,480 TEMPORAL SEQUENCES, AT THE SAME 1544 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,120 TIME ANIMAL TRAJECTORY, POSITIVE 1545 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,120 PLOTTED AGAINST TIME, THE ANIMAL 1546 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,920 IS RESTING, THE ONE IS MOVING, 1547 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,600 AND HERE WE SHOW IN YELLOW THE 1548 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,440 TRAJECTORY, REACHES THE OTHER 1549 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,840 END, RESTING THERE AGAIN, AND 1550 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,880 THE HEAT MAP SHOWS ENCODED 1551 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:41,040 POSITION OF ANIMAL FROM NEURAL 1552 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,840 ACTIVITY, YOU CAN APPRECIATE A 1553 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,720 VERY GOOD DESCRIPTION OF THE 1554 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,320 ANIMAL TRAJECTORY JUST SIMPLY 1555 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:53,280 BASED ON THE ENSEMBLE ACTIVITY 1556 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:54,880 OF CELLS. 1557 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,480 IN THE SLEEP PRECEDING THIS DE 1558 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,880 NOVO ROUND THE SAME NEURONS 1559 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:08,080 EXPRESS WHAT LOOKS LIKE VIRTUAL 1560 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,920 TRAJECTORIES FROM WHAT WILL 1561 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,800 BECOME LATER TRAJECTORIES, 1562 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,120 PRE-CONFIGURED SEQUENCES IN 1563 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,080 NEURONAL SAMPLES SELECTED AND 1564 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,680 RECRUITED AND PLAYED, ASSOCIATED 1565 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,720 WITH NOVEL INFORMATION TO ENCODE 1566 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,680 NEW EPISODE RATHER THAN BEING 1567 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,080 CREATED DE NOVO DURING THE 1568 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:28,640 EXPERIENCE. 1569 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,520 THIS IS OUR WORKING MODEL. 1570 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,240 PROCESS OF ENCODING IS USING 1571 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,480 PRE-CONFIGURED SEQUENCES OF 1572 01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:39,400 FIRING THAT ARE SELECTED DURING 1573 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:44,320 NOVEL EXPERIENCES AND THEN THE 1574 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,120 ASSOCIATIONS WITH NOVEL STIMULI 1575 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:57,280 CONSOLIDATION IS INITIATED VIA 1576 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:57,640 PLASTICITY -- 1577 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,080 [ GARBLED AUDIO CLOSE 1578 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:04,280 PARENTHESES ]. 1579 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,240 TO DESCRIBE THIS AGAIN, WE HAVE 1580 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:15,480 SEQUENCES SHOWN AND WE HAVE 1581 01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:21,800 CODING OF TRAJECTORY DURING 1582 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:22,080 ACTIVITY -- 1583 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:44,760 [ GARBLED AUDIO ] 1584 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,680 FINALLY, AFTER THE EXPERIENCE 1585 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,880 ENDED, THE SAME NEURONS ARE 1586 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,280 FIRING IN THE SAME ORDER 1587 01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:11,080 MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT SLEEP. 1588 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:11,360 HOWEVER-- 1589 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:16,080 [ GARBLED AUDIO ] 1590 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,080 TYPICALLY REFLECTS BETTER THE 1591 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,640 DETAILS AND PRECISION OF THE 1592 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,840 EXPERIENCE COMPARED TO THE 1593 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,080 PREEXISTING TASK. 1594 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:31,680 SO WE THINK THE PHENOMENA OF 1595 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:36,760 REPLAY PARTICIPATES IN CODING -- 1596 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,360 [ GARBLED AUDIO ] 1597 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,680 THE QUESTION TODAY WHAT IS THE 1598 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,400 DEVELOPMENTAL TIMELINE 1599 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,280 CONSIDERING ANIMALS DURING 1600 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,080 DEVELOPMENT PROCURE 1601 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:53,360 (INDISCERNIBLE) FOR OUR ATTEMPTS 1602 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:54,280 TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS UNDERLYING 1603 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,800 NEURAL INFORMATION. 1604 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,880 SO AT THE TIME WE STARTED THIS 1605 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:07,480 EXPERIMENT, THIS IS WHAT WAS 1606 01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:11,080 KNOWN, POSTNATAL DAY 14, A DAY 1607 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:25,040 OR TWO LATER PLACE CELLS CAN BE 1608 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,080 FOUND (INDISCERNIBLE) THE 1609 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,800 RELATIONSHIP IN THE CORTEX, 1610 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,800 BRAIN CELLS ACTUALLY MATURE LIKE 1611 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,000 ACTIVITY MUCH LATER, ABOUT A 1612 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,480 WEEK LATER. 1613 01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:42,160 FINALLY ANOTHER TIME POINT IS 1614 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:47,560 THE END OF INFANTILE AMNESIA 1615 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,360 PERIOD, ENDS AT 2 TO 4 YEARS 1616 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,520 OLD, MAPPED TO BE HAPPENING AT 1617 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,400 AROUND POSTNATAL DAY 23, 24 IN 1618 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:55,200 THE RATS. 1619 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,080 THAT'S WHAT WAS KNOWN. 1620 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,280 NOTHING REALLY ABOUT NEURONAL 1621 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,240 ENSEMBLES, NOTHING ABOUT REPLAY 1622 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,760 AND PRE-PLAY AND CONSEQUENCES IN 1623 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:06,720 THE HIPPOCAMPUS. 1624 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,360 WE DECIDED TO TACKLE QUESTIONS 1625 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:25,240 OF EMERGENCE OF ENSEMBLE 1626 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,680 NEURONS. 1627 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:31,040 WE IMPLANTED YOUNG RATS WITH 1628 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:36,040 SILICON PROBES, TOTAL OF 64, 1629 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:43,080 THESE ARE THE SHANKS 1630 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,280 (INDISCERNIBLE). 1631 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:52,640 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE IN WHICH ALL 1632 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,160 EIGHT SHANKS WERE SUCCESSFUL, 1633 01:12:54,160 --> 01:13:00,080 NEURONS RECORDED, 67 NEURONS IN 1634 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,040 THIS CASE. 1635 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,640 BECAUSE WE'RE INTERESTED IN 1636 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,400 REPLAY, PURPLE IS ESSENTIALLY 1637 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:33,720 BORROWED (INDISCERNIBLE). 1638 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,440 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE ACROSS 1639 01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,480 DEVELOPMENT, ADULT ON RIGHT 1640 01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:41,600 SIDE, YOU SEE THIS IS THE 1641 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:41,880 LOCATION. 1642 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,520 THIS IS THE TRACK. 1643 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,680 YOU CAN SEE PLACES ARE WELL 1644 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,280 TUNED FOR INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS 1645 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:53,200 ACROSS TRAJECTORY OF THE ANIMAL, 1646 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,880 DAY 15, THE ANIMALS RUN WELL, 1647 01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,960 THESE ARE THE SEQUENCES. 1648 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,080 YOU CAN SEE THEY GRADUALLY TUNE 1649 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,680 TO INDIVIDUAL PLACES ACROSS 1650 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:11,240 AGES. 1651 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,400 THIS DECODING OF ANIMAL POSITION 1652 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,040 BASED ON NEURONAL ACTIVITY 1653 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:17,800 RECORDED SIMULTANEOUSLY IN 1654 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,760 YELLOW, THIS IS ACROSS AGES, IN 1655 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:21,960 YELLOW SHOWING THE ACTUAL 1656 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,800 TRAJECTORY THE ANIMAL FROM THE 1657 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,440 BEGINNING ACROSS TIME. 1658 01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:29,120 HEAT MAP SHOWS DECODED POSITION 1659 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,680 OF THE ANIMAL BASED ON NEURAL 1660 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,880 ACTIVITY ALONE. 1661 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:37,160 YOU CAN SEE AS EARLY AS 1662 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,760 POSTNATAL DAY 15, DEPICTING 1663 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,520 QUITE WELL THE CURRENT LOCATION, 1664 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:46,080 INDIVIDUAL LABS, AND IT GETS 1665 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,440 ONLY BETTER INTO ADULTHOOD. 1666 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:49,160 HERE IS A MEASUREMENT OF THE 1667 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,680 ERROR OF THE DECODER. 1668 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,480 YOU CAN SEE WHILE THERE IS 1669 01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:57,360 IMPROVEMENT ACROSS AGES FROM DAY 1670 01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,640 15, 16, ERROR IS 11 CENTIMETERS 1671 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,400 FOR 1-METER TRACK, 10%, GETS 1672 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,880 DOWN TO ABOUT 4% OR SO IN ADULT. 1673 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,520 HOWEVER, ALL THESE NUMBERS, ALL 1674 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,080 THESE ERRORS, ARE WAY, WAY 1675 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:20,680 SMALLER WHEN COMPARED WITH 1676 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:21,000 SHUFFLE. 1677 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,560 WE'RE GETTING MUCH HIGHER ERROR 1678 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,480 SO WE BELIEVE AS EARLY AS 1679 01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:28,440 POSTNATAL DAY 15 THE NETWORK IS 1680 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:32,720 TUNED TO ENCODE ANIMAL LOCATION. 1681 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,960 WE STUDY DATA SEQUENCES. 1682 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,320 AS I MENTIONED, SHORT MOTIFS 1683 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,520 THAT BIND, PAST, CURRENT AND 1684 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:47,120 FUTURE LOCATION IN THE THETA 1685 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,680 CYCLE, WHERE THE PLASTICITY 1686 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,280 INFORMATION CAN BE COMBINED 1687 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,320 PREEXISTING WITH EXTERNAL 1688 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,040 STIMULI, COMBINED IN THE DATA 1689 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,120 EPISODE. 1690 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,680 SO THIS IS OUR DATA SEQUENCES IN 1691 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:00,880 ADULT. 1692 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,040 YOU SEE BINDING IN THE THETA 1693 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,080 EPISODE OF PAST, CURRENT, AND 1694 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,320 FUTURE LOCATIONS. 1695 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:11,080 HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK DURING 1696 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,680 DEVELOPMENT, WE ESSENTIALLY 1697 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,440 COULD NOT SEE EMERGENCE UNTIL 1698 01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:20,520 POSTNATAL DAY 23 AND 24, ALSO 1699 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,640 THE AGE AT WHICH INFANTILE 1700 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,240 AMNESIA IS BELIEVED TO BE 1701 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:25,880 ENDING. 1702 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,040 THIS IS AN INTERESTING 1703 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,080 CORRELATION BETWEEN EMERGENCE OF 1704 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:31,880 SEQUENCES WHICH ESSENTIALLY 1705 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,880 BRING IN SPECIFIC INFORMATION 1706 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,880 ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE, AND WE 1707 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:42,120 BELIEVE THAT THAT IS CRITICAL 1708 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,800 FOR INITIATION OF ENCODING. 1709 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,200 THIS IS QUANTIFICATION OF SINGLE 1710 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,760 EXAMPLE, QUANTIFICATION OF THIS 1711 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,600 PHENOMENON AS WE COMPUTE RATIO, 1712 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:55,280 ESSENTIALLY COMPARING THIS 1713 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,640 QUADRANT, SOME OF THE FIRST AND 1714 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,280 THIRD QUADRANT, WITH SECOND AND 1715 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:08,080 FOURTH QUADRANT, A COMPUTATION 1716 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,040 IN ADULTS HIGHER THAN THE 1717 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,920 SHUFFLES, SO IT IS 23 AND 24 AS 1718 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,040 SHOWN HERE BUT NOT ANY OTHER 1719 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:25,880 AGES, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN SEE ONE 1720 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,680 ANIMAL THAT SHOWS THAT. 1721 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,040 INTERESTINGLY, WHEN WE COMPARE 1722 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,600 PLASTICITY OR EMERGENCE OF DATA 1723 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,680 SEQUENCES DURING THE FIRST TIME, 1724 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,480 VERSUS SECOND, ON THE SAME DAY, 1725 01:17:39,480 --> 01:17:42,480 SAME AGE, WE COULD NOT SEE ANY 1726 01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:44,480 SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. 1727 01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:47,080 HOWEVER, WHEN WE COMPARED FIRST 1728 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,680 TIME AROUND, VERSUS FIRST TIME 1729 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,720 AROUND P 23, 24, NEXT STAGE 1730 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,040 GROUP, COULD SEE SIGNIFICANT 1731 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:59,680 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GROUPS, 1732 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,480 STRONGER SIGNIFICANCE WITH 23, 1733 01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:02,040 24. 1734 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,240 FINALLY THE LAST DATA SLIDE OF 1735 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,840 MY PRESENTATION, WE WERE 1736 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,920 INTERESTED IN EMERGENCE OF 1737 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,120 SEQUENCES THAT ARE EXPRESSED 1738 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,680 PRIMARILY DURING SLEEP. 1739 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:18,600 AS I MENTIONED, IN OUR CASE WE 1740 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,680 TESTED AND REPLAYED, THIS IS HOW 1741 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,720 THEY LOOK IN ADULTS. 1742 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,120 THIS IS DEPICTION OF FUTURE 1743 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,760 ANIMAL TRAJECTORY, AND HERE IS 1744 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:35,720 THE DEPICTION OF THE SAME 1745 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,040 TRAJECTORY. 1746 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:40,320 AND PLASTICITY REPLAY STRONGER. 1747 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:41,880 VERY INTERESTINGLY POSTNATAL DAY 1748 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,360 15, 16, COULD ONLY SAY WHAT WE 1749 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,720 CALL STATIONIER -- STATIONARY 1750 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:49,040 SEQUENCES. 1751 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:53,320 INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS MAPPED BY 1752 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,480 NEURONS, AT LEAST FIVE FIRING 1753 01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:58,560 TOGETHER, NO SEQUENTIAL 1754 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,360 ACTIVATION, THE NETWORK IN AAA 1755 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,680 MODE INSTEAD OF ABCD LATER IN 1756 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:06,440 ADULTS. 1757 01:19:06,440 --> 01:19:11,560 LATER ON POSTNATAL DAY 17 AND 18 1758 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,480 TOWARDS P21, 22 WE CAN SEE 1759 01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:18,680 PRE-PLAY AND REPLAY, FUTURE AND 1760 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,600 PAST TRAJECTORY, INITIALLY OF 1761 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,400 SHORT LENGTH, SO THIS IS PORTION 1762 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,320 OF LINEAR TRACK THAT GROW LONGER 1763 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,280 TOWARDS P21, 22, WITH GROUPS OF 1764 01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,080 THESE EVENTS OR AGES IN STAGES, 1765 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,840 THE LACK OF PLASTICITY, SO 1766 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:38,720 REPLAY IS NOT STRONGER THAN 1767 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,840 PRE-PLAY IN THESE AGES. 1768 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,600 FINALLY IN STAGE 3, P 23, 24, 1769 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,720 THIS IS THE TIME SEQUENCES 1770 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,600 EMERGE, WE SEE PRE-PLAY AND 1771 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,760 REPLAY AT THE NEURON ENSEMBLE 1772 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,640 LEVEL, REPLAY EXCEEDS PRE-PLAY 1773 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,600 IN DESCRIBING OR DEPICTING THE 1774 01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,320 RECENT EXPERIENCE OF THE ANIMAL. 1775 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,560 THIS IS DATA, GROUP DATA SHOWING 1776 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:04,800 THE SAME, WE'RE LOOKING 1777 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,040 SPECIFICALLY FOR SEQUENCES, NOT 1778 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,160 STATIONARY EVENTS. 1779 01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:15,280 THOSE ARE STAGE 1. 1780 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:20,560 THEY SHOW PLASTICITY IN REPLAY 1781 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,520 SIMILAR TO ADULTS. 1782 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:27,040 IN SUMMARY WE'RE POPULATING THIS 1783 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,040 TIME AXIS DURING THE DEVELOPMENT 1784 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,280 WITH THREE STAGES. 1785 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,400 STAGE 1 REPRESENTATION OF 1786 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,040 INDIVIDUAL LOCATION, STATIONARY 1787 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:36,280 FRAMES. 1788 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,680 STAGE 2 P 17 TO P2 2 1789 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,720 REPRESENTATION OF INCREASELY 1790 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:44,280 LONGER TRAJECTORIES, NETWORK 1791 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,120 CONFIGURATION, LACK OF DATA 1792 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,640 SEQUENCE, NO PLASTICITY. 1793 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,280 STAGE 3 SHOWING SIGNS, WE THINK 1794 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,040 EMERGENCE OF LONG-TERM MEMORY WE 1795 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,680 DESCRIBED EMERGENCE OF DATA 1796 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:00,720 SEQUENCES IN CONCERT WITH 1797 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,040 PLASTICITY AND REPLAY. 1798 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,640 SO, THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT 1799 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,560 WE DON'T KNOW IS WHAT LEADS TO 1800 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,040 THIS DEVELOPMENT OF THESE STAGES 1801 01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:18,440 IN ESSENCE WHAT IS THE ROLE OF 1802 01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:19,960 INNATE VERSUS EXTERNAL 1803 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,000 ENVIRONMENT, EXPERIENCE AND 1804 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,680 EXTERNAL ENVIRONMENT, IN LEADING 1805 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,160 TOWARDS THE STAGES OF THIS 1806 01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,040 EXPERIMENTS CURRENTLY ONGOING IN 1807 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,320 THE LAB, AS WELL AS OTHER 1808 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,760 EXPERIMENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO 1809 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,840 UNDERSTAND WHAT DRIVES THE SHIFT 1810 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,520 FROM STAGE 1 TO STAGE 2 AND 1811 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,760 STAGE 2 TO STAGE 3 IN THESE 1812 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:40,840 DEVELOPING ANIMALS. 1813 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,760 AND SINCE THIS WORKSHOP IS ABOUT 1814 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,680 MEMORY FUNCTION ACROSS THE 1815 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,880 LIFETIME, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT 1816 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,320 I'VE SHOWN YOU SO FAR IN THE 1817 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:54,960 DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE EXTENSIVELY 1818 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,960 DURING ADULTHOOD, I ACKNOWLEDGE 1819 01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,840 WHAT IS THE NEXT INTERESTING 1820 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:03,320 POINT TO BE ADDED IS AGING, AND 1821 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,560 ESSENTIALLY WHAT DRIVES SHIFT IN 1822 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:06,600 NEURONAL ACTIVITY FROM ADULTHOOD 1823 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,720 TO AGING THAT LEADS, AGAIN, TO 1824 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,320 AMNESIA AND WHETHER THAT IS 1825 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:15,160 ANYWHERE SIMILAR TO INFANTILE 1826 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,400 AMNESIA THAT WE'VE BEEN 1827 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,040 DESCRIBING. 1828 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:27,800 WE AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN 1829 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,280 DESCRIBING. 1830 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,520 THIS WORK IS FUNDED BY MOST 1831 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:31,720 NOTABLY NIH. 1832 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:38,720 THESE ARE THE CURRENT PEOPLE IN 1833 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:44,240 THE LAB LISTED HERE, OLD LAB 1834 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,280 FOLKS, AND YALE IS PART OF THIS. 1835 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,080 THANK YOU AGAIN. 1836 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,400 >> THANK YOU, GEORGE. 1837 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,240 I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 1838 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:51,840 QUESTION-AND-ANSWER PERIOD BUT 1839 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,680 NOW WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY ON 1840 01:22:54,680 --> 01:23:04,600 AND INTRODUCE NEXT SPEAKER, 1841 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,880 VALENTINA EMILIANI, RECEIVED 1842 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:16,680 Ph.D. FROM UNIVERSITY IN IT 1843 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:23,240 ITALY, FELLOWSHIP IN GERMANY, 1844 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,800 JOINED INSTITUTE IN FRANCE, 1845 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,280 REWARDED BY A EUROPEAN YOUNG 1846 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,160 INVESTIGATOR GRANT IN 2005 AND 1847 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,880 FORMED A GROUP AT PARIS 1848 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,680 DESCARTES UNIVERSITY, RESEARCH 1849 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:35,040 DIRECTOR. 1850 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:40,080 2014 CREATED A RESEARCH UNIT AT 1851 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,520 PARIS DESCARTES, IN 2019 MOVED 1852 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,280 TO DIVISION INSTITUTE DIRECTING 1853 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,320 DEPARTMENT OF PHOTONICS, GROUP 1854 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:53,960 PIONEERED USE OF ENGINEERING FOR 1855 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:54,920 NEUROSCIENCE, PROPOSED SEVERAL 1856 01:23:54,920 --> 01:24:01,840 APPROACHES TO SCULPT EXCITATION 1857 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,040 VOLUME TODAYORDER TO TARGET. 1858 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:08,400 WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THE 1859 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:19,680 RESEARCH, RECIPIENT OF A PRIZE 1860 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:20,960 FROM BETANCOURT-SHULER 1861 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:25,440 FOUNDATION, SILVER MEDAL FROM 1862 01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:28,360 CNRS, DEHAN PRIZE AT THE 1863 01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,680 INTERFACE OF PHYSICS, BIOLOGY 1864 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,760 AND MEDICINE AND BIOPHOTONICS 1865 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:34,720 AWARD. 1866 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:42,760 IN 2019 PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS IN 1867 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:48,680 CHICAGO TO NEUROSCIENCE. 1868 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:49,040 >> THANK YOU. 1869 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,440 IS IT OKAY? 1870 01:24:50,440 --> 01:24:50,800 >> EXCELLENT. 1871 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,200 >> THANK YOU FOR THE 1872 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,320 INTRODUCTION AND MANY THANKS FOR 1873 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,080 INVITATION TO TALK TODAY. 1874 01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,680 WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT IN THE LAST 1875 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:02,880 TALK ABOUT IMAGING, NOW TO 1876 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:03,560 RECORD NEURAL ACTIVITY. 1877 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,600 WE'LL SEE IN THE NEXT TALK FROM 1878 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,520 HOD THIS CAN BE DONE, MY LECTURE 1879 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,400 IS MORE TO GIVE A VIEW OF WHAT 1880 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,080 MY LAB AND OTHERS HAVE DONE IN 1881 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,600 THE PAST YEAR TO MANIPULATE 1882 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:24,840 USING LIGHT IN THE SAME 1883 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,040 SINGLE-CELL RESOLUTION. 1884 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:36,040 IN ORDER TO USE LIGHT TO 1885 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:41,880 MANIPULATE, FIRST CHALLENGED TO 1886 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,480 MAKE SENSITIVE TO LIGHT. 1887 01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:55,680 TODAY IT'S POSSIBLE TO EXPRESS 1888 01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,880 SPECIFIC LIGATED CHANNEL, 1889 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:05,240 POSSIBLE TO CONTROL INHIBITION 1890 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:06,600 USING LIGHT. 1891 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,440 SO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF 1892 01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:14,880 OPTOGENETICS BY COMBINING THIS 1893 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,080 APPROACH THAT SHINE LIGHT ON 1894 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,960 LARGE REGION. 1895 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,280 BECAUSE OF PRECISION IN 1896 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,080 TARGETING IT WAS POSSIBLE TO 1897 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:27,360 CORRELATE THE EVOKED ACTIVITY 1898 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,800 WITH SPECIFIC TYPE ILLUMINATED 1899 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,560 IN LIGHT MANIPULATION. 1900 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,680 THIS APPROACH ENABLED TO HAVE 1901 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,280 TECHNOLOGY TO PROBE BRAIN 1902 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,400 FUNCTION WITH CELL TYPE 1903 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,440 SPECIFICITY IN NON-INVASIVE WAY. 1904 01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:51,880 DESPITE THE IMPACT THIS 1905 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,560 APPROACH, INTRINSIC RELATED TO 1906 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:58,480 THE FACT BY SHINING LOT WE 1907 01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:04,480 CANNOT ONLY SYNCHRONOUSLY 1908 01:27:04,480 --> 01:27:05,720 ACTIVATE SPECIFIC. 1909 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,240 NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTIVITY 1910 01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,760 AND YOU WILL SEE OTHER EXAMPLES 1911 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,480 IN THE NEXT TALK, WE SEE IN MOST 1912 01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:20,920 OF THE CASE EVEN GENETICALLY 1913 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,560 IDENTICAL SETS, THERE ARE MANY 1914 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:29,040 OTHER SIMILAR ACTIVITY, EVEN 1915 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,120 GENETICALLY IDENTICAL, WE NEED 1916 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,600 EACH ELEMENT CAN CONTRIBUTE INTO 1917 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,640 THE ACTIVITY WITH SPECIFIC 1918 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:40,440 SPATIAL TEMPORAL. 1919 01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:42,480 THE NEXT QUESTION WE MIGHT ASK 1920 01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:48,120 TODAY TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW 1921 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,680 THIS SPECIFIC PATTERNS ARE 1922 01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:53,800 LINKED, FUNCTIONALLY CONNECTED, 1923 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,520 CRITICAL NUMBER OF SETS COULD BE 1924 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:58,960 CONTROLLED TO EVOKE A CERTAIN 1925 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,600 RESPONSE. 1926 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:14,680 WE NEED TOE TRANSITION INTO A 1927 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,880 MORE SOPHISTICATED APPROACH, 1928 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:17,440 CIRCUIT OPTOGENETICS, 1929 01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:19,480 MANIPULATING SINGLE OR MULTIPLE 1930 01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:20,480 TARGETS INDEPENDENTLY IN SPACE 1931 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:21,440 AND TIME. 1932 01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:26,480 WHAT DO WE NEED FOR CIRCUITS 1933 01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:26,840 OPTOGENETICS? 1934 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:28,480 CAPABILITY TO TARGET SINGLE OR 1935 01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:31,000 SPECIFIC GROUP OF CELLS WITH 1936 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,760 SINGLE-CELL RESOLUTION, ALSO 1937 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,680 CAPABILITY TO DELIVER LIGHT IN 1938 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,640 MULTIPLE PLANES AND OBVIOUSLY 1939 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:42,360 CONTROL ACTIVATION OR 1940 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:57,320 INHIBITION OF NEURONS IN 1941 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,440 TEMPORAL SCALE. 1942 01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:00,400 THIS IS CURRENTLY USING IMAGING. 1943 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,320 YOU WILL SEE THIS IN THE NEXT 1944 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:03,520 TALK. 1945 01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:09,240 CAN WE USE THE SAME APPROACH IN 1946 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:09,560 OPTOGENETICS? 1947 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,280 IT'S A CHALLENGE, IF WE USE 1948 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:13,480 CONVENTIONAL MICROSCOPE IN MOST 1949 01:29:13,480 --> 01:29:18,000 OF THE CASE THE USE IS VOLUME 1950 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,960 SHOWN IN ANIMAL SETS IS NOT 1951 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:26,400 ENOUGH TO OPEN ENOUGH CHANNEL TO 1952 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,240 BRING THE NEURONS, TO CONTROL 1953 01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,600 ACTION POTENTIAL, TO INHIBIT THE 1954 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:39,880 ACTIVITY OF SPECIFIC CELLS. 1955 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,080 ALSO, CONVENTIONAL TWO-PHOTO 1956 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:42,600 ONMICROSCOPY, IF WE WANT TO 1957 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:43,600 CONTROL ACTIVITY OF MULTIPLE 1958 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,560 CELLS WE CAN ONLY DO THIS IN A 1959 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,160 SEQUENTIAL WAY AND WHEN THIS 1960 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,520 NUMBER IS HIGH WE WON'T HAVE 1961 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:57,480 TEMPORAL RESOLUTION TO REACH 1962 01:29:57,480 --> 01:29:58,480 MULTIPLE TARGETS. 1963 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:00,200 SO REQUIRES FROM ONE SIZE TO 1964 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:05,200 FIND SOLUTION TO INCREASE SIZE 1965 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:09,280 AND FIND SOLUTION TO EACH 1966 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:09,880 SIMULTANEOUSLY MULTIPLE TARGETS. 1967 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:14,320 AND SO FOR THE FIRST PART 1968 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,920 INCREASE SIZE OF ILLUMINATED 1969 01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:17,560 CELL MEMBER, TWO POSSIBLE 1970 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:27,560 SOLUTIONS THAT CAN BE DONE. 1971 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:35,640 TO SCAN TO OPEN ALL THE CHANNELS 1972 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:36,720 EXPRESSING ON MEMBRANE OR 1973 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,880 PRODUCE LARGE STOP SO ALL 1974 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,400 CHANNEL ARE OPEN SIMULTANEOUSLY. 1975 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,200 SO THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1976 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,040 THE TWO APPROACH FOR SINGLE-CELL 1977 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:52,000 RESOLUTION IS TO -- FIRST ONE IS 1978 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,760 MORE TREATABLE WHEN COMBINED 1979 01:30:53,760 --> 01:31:00,880 WITH LOW OPENING AND CLOSING 1980 01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,640 TIME, HAVING THE ADVANTAGE ALSO 1981 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,760 USED TO MIMIC ACTIVITY OF FASTER 1982 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,560 SPIKE IN CELLS. 1983 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,840 HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS LARGER? 1984 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,040 TO ILLUMINATE THE ENTIRE NEURON? 1985 01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,040 WE HAVE PROPOSED YEARS AGO TO DO 1986 01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:22,280 THIS BY USING APPROACH OF 1987 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,040 COMPUTER GENERATED HOLOGRAPHY, 1988 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:30,040 THE KEY DEVICE IS LIQUID CRYSTAL 1989 01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,560 SCREEN, SO THAT EVENTUALLY WE 1990 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,120 CAN PRECISELY PRODUCE ANY 1991 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,200 ARBITRARY SHAPE WE CHOOSE BY 1992 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:40,000 COMPUTER AND THIS IS DONE BY 1993 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,480 PROJECTING ON THE LIQUID 1994 01:31:43,480 --> 01:31:45,840 CRITICAL CORRESPONDING HOLOGRAM. 1995 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,680 EVENTUALLY COVER ALL THE MEMBER 1996 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,920 OF THE TARGET THAT WE HAVE 1997 01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:50,520 CHOSEN. 1998 01:31:50,520 --> 01:32:00,200 HOW CAN WE DO THIS 1999 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,240 SIMULTANEOUSLY? 2000 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,920 IT ENABLES TO DELIVER 2001 01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:04,800 (INDISCERNIBLE) THIS APPROACH 2002 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,360 CANNING ALSO USED TO PRODUCE, 2003 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,280 FOR EXAMPLE, DISTRIBUTION OF 2004 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:15,320 MULTIPLE POINTS THAT CAN HAVE 2005 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:16,520 THREE DIMENSIONAL GEOMETRY. 2006 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:21,640 WE CAN PRODUCE A SORT OF 2D OR 2007 01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:26,040 3D, MULTIPLE NEURONS CAN BE 2008 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:30,480 SIMULTANEOUSLY ACTIVATED. 2009 01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:39,320 IN THIS CASE THE APPROACH CAN 2010 01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,480 GENERATE PATTERNS ON MULTIPLE 2011 01:32:41,480 --> 01:32:44,800 FOCUS SO WE CAN HAVE FULL 2012 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,080 THREE-DIMENSIONAL SCANLESS 2013 01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:46,360 APPROACH. 2014 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,480 IN THE SECOND CASE WHEN WE WANT 2015 01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:50,520 TO REACH MULTIPLE TARGETS AND WE 2016 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,760 WANT TO KEEP SINGLE CELL 2017 01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:56,120 SOLUTION, SYSTEM REQUIRES ALSO 2018 01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,800 TO INCLUDE APPROACH OF TEMPORAL 2019 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,320 FOCUSING ENABLES TO NICELY 2020 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,680 CONFINE THE LIGHT ALONG THE 2021 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,000 CONFINEMENT SO TODAY THE MOST 2022 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,600 USED APPROACH FOR THREE 2023 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,440 DIMENSIONAL HOLOGRAPHIC PATTERN 2024 01:33:12,440 --> 01:33:14,160 USES FIRST SPECIAL LENS CREATING 2025 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,880 A SECOND SHAPE, TYPICALLY A DISC 2026 01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,440 WE COVER THE MEMBRANE. 2027 01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:26,960 DISC IS FOCALIZED, THAT ENABLES 2028 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,200 TO CONTROL AXIAL EXTENSION OF 2029 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:29,480 DISK. 2030 01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:39,680 WE PRODUCE MULTIPLE POINTS. 2031 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,320 TWO DEVICES WORKING TOGETHER. 2032 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:48,880 SO WE CAN REACH LIKE WHAT IS 2033 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,720 SHOWN HERE, NOW YOU CAN IMAGINE 2034 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:55,040 THE TALK IS GOING TO DIFFERENT 2035 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,880 NEURON SETS SO CAN YOU CONTROL. 2036 01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,920 THERE ARE MUST BE VARIANTS, 2037 01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:04,880 DEPENDING HOW THE FIRST SHAPE IS 2038 01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:05,040 DONE. 2039 01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,840 IN DIFFERENT APPROACH MORE OR 2040 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,680 LESS THEY ALL CAN REACH THE 2041 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,280 DISTRIBUTION OF LIGHT ON 2042 01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,880 HUNDREDS OF TARGETS IN CUBIC 2043 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,080 VOLUME, JUST TO GIVE A FEW 2044 01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:19,720 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE. 2045 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,680 ARE WE ON THE WAY TO USE THIS 2046 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:28,480 APPROACH FOR SINGLE CELL 2047 01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:31,520 OPTOGENETICS? 2048 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,160 IT REQUIRES TO WORK, WE 2049 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,040 INTEGRATE WHAT MANY OTHER LABS 2050 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:41,360 HAS DONE IN THE PAST YEAR TO 2051 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:45,560 DEVELOP STRATEGIES THAT COULD 2052 01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,800 CONFINE, TODAY THIS IS OF KEY 2053 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,680 IMPORTANCE, EVEN IF WE CAN SHAPE 2054 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,640 THE LIGHT IN A PRECISE WAY TO 2055 01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,680 REACH JUST A SINGLE TARGET IT'S 2056 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,280 VERY COMMON IF WE HAVE MULTIPLE 2057 01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,240 SETS AROUND THE PROCESS IS 2058 01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:00,120 CROSSING ILLUMINATION VOLUME AND 2059 01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,200 SO WE WOULD LOSE THE SINGLE CELL 2060 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:03,880 SOLUTION. 2061 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:08,360 BUT TODAY IF YOU COMBINE LIGHT 2062 01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,920 SHAPING, IT'S POSSIBLE TO BE 2063 01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,920 PRECISE AND I'LL SHOW AN EXAMPLE 2064 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:13,240 HERE. 2065 01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,800 DATA FROM MY LAB IN VIVO, 2066 01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:16,120 CORTEX. 2067 01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,040 YOU SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE 2068 01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,480 SENDING THREE HOLOGRAPHIC ON 2069 01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:25,160 THREE NEURONS, THREE RESPONDING 2070 01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:29,560 SHOWN BY THE RESPONSE AND WE 2071 01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,720 CHOOSE TO ACTIVATE ONE OF THE 2072 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:33,920 THREE, ONLY ONE IS RESPONDING, 2073 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,640 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO HAVE PRECISE 2074 01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,840 CONTROL OF NANOACTIVITY WITH 2075 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:43,800 CELLULAR RESOLUTION. 2076 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:45,560 ALL THESE APPROACHES RELATIVELY 2077 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:46,920 RECENT SO BECAUSE FROM ONE SIDE 2078 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,160 WE HAVE TO IMPROVE THE MORE AND 2079 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:51,160 MORE THE FOCUS SIMULATION 2080 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,320 APPROACH BUT THEN BECAUSE WE 2081 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:59,840 WANT TO REACH MORE TARGET, 2082 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:05,280 HAVING NEW LASER TO DEVELOP 2083 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,880 MULTIPLE POWER AND HAVING THIS 2084 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:09,880 SO THE COMBINATION OF THESE 2085 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,920 APPROACHES RELATIVELY RECENT BUT 2086 01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:15,240 WE START NOW TO SEE MORE AND 2087 01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,440 MORE COMBINATION OF APPROACH 2088 01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:32,720 USED IN SOLVE KEY BIOLOGICS 2089 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,720 PERFORMING HIGH-THROUGHPUT, TO 2090 01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,560 USE OPTOGENETICS AND SINGLE CELL 2091 01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,280 TO FORM ACTIVATION TO ILLUMINATE 2092 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,360 MULTIPLE PRESYNAPTIC CELLS WHILE 2093 01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:49,240 RECORDING USING ELECTRIC OR 2094 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:50,000 LIGHT, EVOKED RESPONSE IN 2095 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:58,080 SPECIFIC SET, THIS IS A CLASS 2096 01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:58,960 CLASSICAL NUMBER OF EXPERIMENTS, 2097 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,320 THERE ARE ANOTHER CLASS OF 2098 01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,640 EXPERIMENTS PUBLISHED IN THE 2099 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:08,480 PAST YEAR WHERE THIS KIND OF 2100 01:37:08,480 --> 01:37:10,560 APPROACH WAS USED TO PROBE 2101 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:17,480 THRESHOLD OF PERCEPTION, TO BE 2102 01:37:17,480 --> 01:37:18,440 ACTIVATED TO RECREATE 2103 01:37:18,440 --> 01:37:18,880 PERCEPTION. 2104 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,040 ENOUGH TO EXCITE FROM ONE TO TEN 2105 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,080 CELLS, IN THIS CLASS OF 2106 01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:24,040 EXPERIMENT THE NUMBER OF CELLS 2107 01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,080 THAT HAS TO BE EXCITED IN SOME 2108 01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:30,920 CASES WAS HIGHER FROM TEN TO A 2109 01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:31,480 HUNDRED CELLS. 2110 01:37:31,480 --> 01:37:37,480 NOW IN THE REMAINING PART OF THE 2111 01:37:37,480 --> 01:37:39,120 TALK I WOULD LIKE TO THINK OF IS 2112 01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,840 IT POSSIBLE TO THINK OF 2113 01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,880 CONTROLLING EVEN LARGER 2114 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,080 CIRCUITS, STIMULATING LARGE 2115 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,560 NUMBER OF CELLS, UP TO THIS 2116 01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:52,640 POINT FROM THIS POINT OF VIEW 2117 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,280 WHICH IS THE LIMIT THAT, WHAT 2118 01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,480 ARE THE REASONS THAT COULD LIMIT 2119 01:37:58,480 --> 01:38:01,640 MAXIMUM NUMBER WE CAN REACH. 2120 01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:06,880 SO AN IMPORTANT ADVANCE IN 2121 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:08,640 OPTOGENETICS DONE THANKS TO 2122 01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,560 DEVELOPMENT OF LOW REPETITION 2123 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,160 LASERS THAT ENABLE TO INCREASE 2124 01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:16,000 EXCITATION PEAK POWER, POSSIBLE 2125 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:25,640 TO REACH A HIGH NUMBER OF CELLS, 2126 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:31,640 PLUS LATER CAN DELIVER MORE 2127 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,880 WATT, TODAY TO ACTIVATE SINGLE 2128 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:43,080 CELL WE NEED ABOUT 10 TO 20 2129 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,480 NANOJOWL, ACTIVATING THOUSANDS 2130 01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:46,920 OF CELLS, THEORETICALLY. 2131 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,880 WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THOSE NUMBER 2132 01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:54,440 VALID FOR SUPERFICIAL CELLS SO 2133 01:38:54,440 --> 01:38:56,480 IF YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE POWER 2134 01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:58,600 IT IS MUCH HIGHER, THOUSANDS OF 2135 01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,000 CELLS CAN BE REDUCED, AND ALSO 2136 01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,080 EVEN IF WE CAN ACTIVATE 2137 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,440 THOUSANDS OF CELLS WE HAVE TO 2138 01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:11,720 TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CERTAIN POINT 2139 01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:17,960 DAMAGE, WE SEND TOO MANY WE CAN 2140 01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:23,880 EXCEED THE SINGLE FOR IMPORTANT 2141 01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:24,200 DAMAGE EFFECT. 2142 01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,040 WE DEVELOPED RECENTLY TO TRY TO 2143 01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,120 SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS, TO 2144 01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:33,480 INCREASE NUMBER OF TARGETS AND 2145 01:39:33,480 --> 01:39:37,000 MINIMIZE COLLATERAL THERMAL 2146 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:38,080 DAMAGE EFFECT. 2147 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:46,640 THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT I SHOWED 2148 01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:47,880 BEFORE. 2149 01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,040 THERE ARE TWO VARIANTS WITH 2150 01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:51,320 RESPECT TO WHAT I'VE SHOWN YOU 2151 01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:58,480 BEFORE, THE FIRST ONE IS NOT 2152 01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:00,160 ADDRESSED BY USING SINGLE 2153 01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:04,000 HOLOGRAM BUT NOW ADDRESSED WITH 2154 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:04,880 MULTIPLE HOLOGRAMS VERTICALLY 2155 01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:10,480 ALIGNED, NOW WE HAVE INSERTED, 2156 01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:12,520 MOVING LIGHT THROUGH THE 2157 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:13,600 DIFFERENT HOLOGRAMS, AND THIS 2158 01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:18,680 CAN BE DONE AT THE SPEED ONLY 2159 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:23,880 LIMITED BY SPEED (INDISCERNIBLE) 2160 01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,440 SO WE CAN GENERATE MULTIPLE 2161 01:40:26,440 --> 01:40:27,480 DISTRIBUTION TO QUICKLY REFRESH 2162 01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:28,880 FROM ONE TO ANOTHER. 2163 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:30,400 WHY THIS COULD HELP IN 2164 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,040 INCREASING NUMBER OF SPOTS AND 2165 01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:37,520 WHY THIS COULD HELP IN REDUCING 2166 01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,480 THE TEMPERATURE, THE TEMPERATURE 2167 01:40:39,480 --> 01:40:41,880 RISE, WE HAD TO -- FOR THAT TO 2168 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:47,720 INTRODUCE THE IDEA OF CYCLIC 2169 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:52,080 ILLUMINATION, IT IS POSSIBLE TO 2170 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:53,040 PROVE EXPERIMENTAL THAT THERE 2171 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:54,840 ARE TWO WAYS TO CONTROL THE 2172 01:40:54,840 --> 01:41:04,840 ACTIVATION OF A CELL SO WE CAN 2173 01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,080 EITHER USE -- BETWEEN 5 TO 20 2174 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,280 MILLISECONDS, TO EVOKE ACTION 2175 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,400 POTENTIAL OR CERTAIN RESPONSE 2176 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,240 BUT THE SAME ACTIVITY CAN ALSO 2177 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,960 BE PRODUCED, INSTEAD OF USING 2178 01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:23,080 LONG PATHS WE USE SHORTER PATHS 2179 01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,600 OF SLIGHTLY HIGHER INTENSITY AND 2180 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,320 THIS WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE 2181 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:30,000 SAME CURRENT. 2182 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,160 SO WHY THIS IS AN ADVANTAGE 2183 01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,360 BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN USE THE TIME 2184 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:39,160 INTERVAL BETWEEN ONE AND THE 2185 01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:41,480 OTHER TO MOVE YOUR ILLUMINATION 2186 01:41:41,480 --> 01:41:45,760 LIGHT ACROSS THE DIFFERENT 2187 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,320 HOLOGRAMS, SO IN CONVENTIONAL 2188 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,040 HOLOGRAPHY YOU COULD ACTIVATE A 2189 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,280 SINGLE CELL OR SINGLE GROUP OF 2190 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:53,840 CELLS, NOW WE CAN ACTIVATE ALL 2191 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:57,000 THE CELLS, ALL THE GROUP OF 2192 01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:02,200 CELLS, ENCODED IN THIS MULTIPLE 2193 01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,040 HOLOGRAMS, WE'RE ABLE TO CONTROL 2194 01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:16,520 UP TO OL UP TO 25 INDEPENDENT 2195 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:16,800 HOLOGRAMS. 2196 01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,280 WE CAN ACTIVATE MORE GROUP OF 2197 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,080 CELLS BUT EACH OF THEM WOULD 2198 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:25,680 REQUIRE SQUARE ROOT OF H HIGHER 2199 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,040 POWER THAN CONVENTIONAL, OVERALL 2200 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:30,280 A GAIN OF SQUARE ROOT OF H, SO 2201 01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,560 BECAUSE THIS NUMBER IS TODAY 2202 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,480 ABOUT 25 WE CAN INCREASE UP TO A 2203 01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:36,680 FACTOR OF FIVE THE NUMBER OF 2204 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:41,800 CELLS THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE USING 2205 01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:42,680 CONVENTIONAL CONFIGURATION, AND 2206 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,560 THE SAME EFFECT IS THAT WE CAN 2207 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:47,720 MINIMIZE THE THERMAL DAMAGE. 2208 01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,880 THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN SEE 2209 01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,120 HERE, SO A FEW YEARS AGO 2210 01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:58,040 DEVELOPED A SYSTEM TO EVALUATE, 2211 01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:03,000 TEMPERATURE RISE THAT WE CAN 2212 01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,760 EVOKE AND NOW THIS MODEL CAN 2213 01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,080 EVALUATE AND WE CAN EXPERIMENT 2214 01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,560 AND PROVE AS LONG AS WE 2215 01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,280 STIMULATE A SINGLE CELL THE 2216 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,840 LOCAL TEMPERATURE RISE IS WELL 2217 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,880 BELOW, NOW WHEN WE START TO 2218 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:18,560 ILLUMINATE MULTIPLE TARGETS, 2219 01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:22,640 THIS IS THE CASE WHERE NOW WE'RE 2220 01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,360 USING THE SAME STIMULATION 2221 01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:26,480 PARAMETER NOW TO ACTIVATE 100 2222 01:43:26,480 --> 01:43:26,880 CELLS. 2223 01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,640 YOU SEE THE TEMPERATURE RISE CAN 2224 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,920 BE HIGH AND LAST RELATIVELY LONG 2225 01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:33,800 TIME. 2226 01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:35,880 SO THE ADVANTAGE IS THAT BECAUSE 2227 01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,040 WE CAN USE LOWER POWER AND ALSO 2228 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:44,480 BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE PATHS 2229 01:43:44,480 --> 01:43:46,800 THAT ENABLES MORE THERMAL 2230 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:52,080 DISSIPATION, IF WE USE HERE 25 2231 01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,280 HOLOGRAMS, THE TEMPERATURE 20 2232 01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,560 HOLOGRAMS, TEMPERATURE RISE IS 2233 01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,320 MUCH BELOW WHAT WE WOULD ACHIEVE 2234 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:09,280 IF WE SEND 100 SPOT IN 2235 01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:10,160 CONVENTIONAL WAY. 2236 01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,520 COMBINED ALLOWS INCREASE NUMBER 2237 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:16,040 OF CELLS AND MINIMIZE THERMAL 2238 01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:17,560 PHOTODAMAGE EFFECT. 2239 01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,080 THE GENERAL CONCLUSION TODAY ON 2240 01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,480 MANIPULATION SIDE THE 2241 01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:23,360 COMBINATION OF MULTIPLE ADVANCE 2242 01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:24,040 IN COMPLEMENTARY DISCIPLINES, 2243 01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:28,680 WE'RE ON THE WAY TO CONTROL 2244 01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:34,480 LARGE POPULATION OF CELLS IN 2245 01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:35,480 SAFE CONDITION AND TEMPORARY 2246 01:44:35,480 --> 01:44:36,120 SOLUTION, FURTHER DIRECTION IS 2247 01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:42,120 NOW TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE EVEN 2248 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,240 FURTHER, EVENTUALLY REACH DEEPER 2249 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:51,040 BRAIN AREA BY DEVELOPING 2250 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:55,120 HOLOGRAPHIC ENDOSCOPY SO WE CAN 2251 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,080 ACTIVATE THE SAME POPULATION OF 2252 01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,120 CELLS AND THEN WE CAN GO VERY 2253 01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:06,680 FAST NOW IN CONTROLLING CELLS, 2254 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:11,280 GREAT ADVANTAGE COMBINED WITH 2255 01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:12,240 MASTER MULTI-TARGET IMAGING. 2256 01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,920 I'M OUT OF TIME. 2257 01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,960 I WILL GIVE YOU THE SLIDE TO 2258 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:24,320 THANK THE PEOPLE OF MY LAB, 2259 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:25,680 COLLABORATORS AND FUNDING 2260 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:26,000 SOURCES. 2261 01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,120 >> AN INCREDIBLE TALK. 2262 01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:33,040 MOVING ON, NEXT IS HOD DANA, 2263 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,240 ASSISTANT PROFESSOR AT CASE 2264 01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,280 WESTERN RESEARCH UNIVERSITY, 2265 01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:41,320 RECEIVED HIS BACHELOR'S AND 2266 01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:42,240 Ph.D. IN BIOMEDICAL 2267 01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:52,880 ENGINEERING IN ISRAELI INSTITUTE 2268 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,160 OF TECHNOLOGY, HE DID HIS 2269 01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:56,760 POSTDOCTORAL TRAINING AT THE 2270 01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,000 HOWARD HUGHES MEDICAL INSTITUTE 2271 01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,640 AT JANELIA CAMPUS, AND ALSO WAS 2272 01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:03,400 INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENT AND 2273 01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:06,040 TESTING OF NEW CALCIUM SENSORS 2274 01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,360 FOR RECORDING NEURONAL ACTIVITY. 2275 01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:14,440 HE JOINED THE DEPARTMENT OF 2276 01:46:14,440 --> 01:46:18,880 NEUROSCIENCES AT THE LERNER 2277 01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,880 INSTITUTE OF CLEVELAND CLINIC, A 2278 01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,840 PROFESSOR OF MEDICINE, LAB 2279 01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,280 DEVELOPED NON-LINEAR OPTICAL 2280 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,320 METHODS TO STUDYING HOW BRAIN 2281 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,480 ACTIVITY IS AFFECTED BY 2282 01:46:31,480 --> 01:46:32,480 NEURODEGENERATIVE CONDITIONS, 2283 01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:34,680 RECENTLY HE AND COLLEAGUES WERE 2284 01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:41,800 AWARDED A GRANT TO DEVELOP NEXT 2285 01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:43,760 GENERATION OF CAMPARI SENSOR. 2286 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:48,800 HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW. 2287 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:52,240 >> DO YOU SEE MY SLIDES 2288 01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:52,480 PROPERLY? 2289 01:46:52,480 --> 01:46:52,720 >> YES. 2290 01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:56,040 >> SO, I WANT TO THANK THE 2291 01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:57,280 ORGANIZERS FOR THIS WORKSHOP, 2292 01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,880 TODAY I WILL TALK ABOUT LARGE 2293 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:01,480 SCALE CELLULAR RESOLUTION 2294 01:47:01,480 --> 01:47:03,520 RECORDING OF NEURONAL ACTIVITY 2295 01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,480 IN FREELY MOVING MICE. 2296 01:47:05,480 --> 01:47:07,640 WE FIRST START WITH INTRODUCING 2297 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:12,320 WHY WE WANT TO RECORD BRAIN 2298 01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:16,600 ACTIVITY WITH CALCIUM SENSORS, 2299 01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:17,560 FROM BEHAVING RODENTS AND 2300 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:21,080 CHALLENGES WE FAILS. 2301 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,680 I WILL INTRODUCE CAMPARI, A NEW 2302 01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:28,000 SENSOR, HOW WE USE IT TO RECORD 2303 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:32,560 LARGE SCALE ACTIVITY IN FREELY 2304 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,520 MOVING MICE, DATA SHOWS ACTIVITY 2305 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:38,600 ACROSS THE LIFESPAN OF MICE. 2306 01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,320 SIMILAR SLIDE WAS PRESENTED 2307 01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:44,040 YESTERDAY, MY MESSAGE HERE I 2308 01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:45,840 WANT TO CONVINCE CALCIUM IMAGING 2309 01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:47,960 IS INTERESTING AND USEFUL. 2310 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,320 THE BRAIN PERFORMS ACTIVITY OVER 2311 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:51,960 MULTIPLE SPATIAL AND TEMPORAL 2312 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:53,640 SCALES. 2313 01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:57,240 HERE I'M TRYING TO SUMMARIZE 2314 01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:58,640 REPRESENTATION OF TIME ON 2315 01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,160 X-AXIS, AND PRESENTATION OF 2316 01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:04,880 SPACE IN Y-AXIS. 2317 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,640 OVER THE TIME AXIS, FROM 2318 01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:13,480 MILLISECOND RANGE, FIRING OF 2319 01:48:13,480 --> 01:48:14,480 SINGLE ACTION POTENTIALS, TO 2320 01:48:14,480 --> 01:48:18,200 PROCESSES THAT TAKE MORE TIME, 2321 01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:23,480 LEARNING, AGING, DISEASE 2322 01:48:23,480 --> 01:48:27,040 PROGRESSION THAT CAN LAST FOR 2323 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:27,600 YEARS. 2324 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,560 ONE MICRON IN SIZE, AND SIZE OF 2325 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:34,360 CELLS IS TEN MICRONS, BRAIN OF 2326 01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,000 THE HUMAN SPANS TENS OF 2327 01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:37,400 CENTIMETERS. 2328 01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:38,840 IN ORDER TO RECORD FROM THE 2329 01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,160 BRAIN THERE ARE MULTIPLE METHODS 2330 01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,800 THAT CAN BE USED, EACH METHOD 2331 01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:47,400 USES DIFFERENT PHYSICAL PROCESS, 2332 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,520 AND THEREFORE HAS DIFFERENT 2333 01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:50,880 RANGE. 2334 01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:52,600 FOR EXAMPLE FUNCTIONAL MRI WE 2335 01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:59,360 TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TODAY AND 2336 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:02,680 YESTERDAY, CAN SCAN THE WHOLE 2337 01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:03,760 BRAIN, NON-INVASIVE, DOESN'T DO 2338 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:07,080 DAMAGE USED OVER LONGER TIME 2339 01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,320 PERIOD WITHOUT ANY DAMAGE. 2340 01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,960 THE TEMPORAL RESOLUTION OF 2341 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,040 fMRI IS 1 MILLISECOND, SPATIAL 2342 01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,440 RESOLUTION IS 1 MILIMETER. 2343 01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:20,080 THIS IS BASICALLY USEFUL, 2344 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,320 DYNAMIC RANGE OF fMRI. 2345 01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,840 ANOTHER METHOD IS INTRACELLULAR 2346 01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,280 RECORDINGS WHERE ELECTRODES ARE 2347 01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,000 INSERTED INTO THE MOUSE OR HUMAN 2348 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,480 BRAIN TO REPORT ACTIVITY OF 2349 01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:38,400 SINGLE CELLS, YOU CAN GET 2350 01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:39,800 SUBMILLISECOND RESOLUTION, 2351 01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,120 RESOLUTION OF MICRONS, BUT 2352 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,400 RECORDING USUALLY LASTS FOR UP 2353 01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:45,960 TO SEVERAL MINUTES, MAYBE 2354 01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,560 LONGER, AND YOU CAN RECORD ONLY 2355 01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,040 FROM SMALL AMOUNT OF CELLS 2356 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:52,840 SPANNING SMALL FRACTION OF THE 2357 01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:53,680 BRAIN. 2358 01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,120 THERE ARE OTHER THOUGHTS, I'M 2359 01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:57,720 NOT GOING TO GET INTO DETAILS 2360 01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:01,720 BUT ACCORDING TO METRICS I JUST 2361 01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,840 PRESENTED, CALCIUM IMAGING IS 2362 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,560 THE MOST VERSATILE METHOD 2363 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:14,120 BECAUSE WE CAN DETECT THE FIRING 2364 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:15,200 OF SIX ACTION POTENTIALS, ALSO 2365 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,400 TO RECORD FROM THE SAME ANIMAL 2366 01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,480 OVER AND OVER AGAIN, OVER MANY 2367 01:50:21,480 --> 01:50:21,800 MONTHS. 2368 01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,040 THE RECORDING METHODS WE USE 2369 01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:26,440 ALLOW US TO SEE SUBMICRON 2370 01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:28,800 RESOLUTION BUT ALSO TO RECORD 2371 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:29,880 MILLIMETERS OF TISSUE, 2372 01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,360 CONTAINING MANY THOUSANDS OF 2373 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,600 CELLS, TODAY I WILL PRESENT NEW 2374 01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,160 METHOD THAT ACTUALLY TRIED TO 2375 01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:41,800 EXPAND THAT EVEN FURTHER. 2376 01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:43,200 TO RECORD CALCIUM IMAGING, THE 2377 01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:52,920 MOST COMMONLY USED TOOL IS 2378 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:57,720 GENETIC ENCODEED INDICATORS, 2379 01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:59,160 GECIs, BY INJECTION OR 2380 01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:00,400 GENERATED ANIMALS. 2381 01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:05,960 HERE IS THE STRUCTURE OF THE 2382 01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:10,040 MOST COMMONLY USED, GCaMP, 2383 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:11,680 GREEN FLUORESCENT PROTEIN BINDS 2384 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,160 TO CALCIUM DOMAIN. 2385 01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:14,440 WITH NO CALCIUM AROUND THE 2386 01:51:14,440 --> 01:51:19,640 PROTEIN IS ENGINEERED TO BE VERY 2387 01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:21,120 DIM, FIRST IS INEFFICIENT, BUT 2388 01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:25,520 ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE THERE IS 2389 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:30,000 A CHANGE IN THE GFP RETAINS 2390 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:30,520 BRIGHTNESS. 2391 01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,200 WITH CALCIUM THIS PROTEIN IS 2392 01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:33,720 VERY BRIGHT, WITHOUT CALCIUM 2393 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:35,560 IT'S VERY DIM. 2394 01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:41,800 USING THE SENSORS WE CAN DO THE 2395 01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:42,920 LONG-TERM EXPERIMENTS, GENETIC 2396 01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:44,760 TOOLS TARGET TO SPECIFIC CELL 2397 01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:46,080 TYPES, EXPRESSION CAN BE TURNED 2398 01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:50,720 ON AND OFF, AND WE CAN GENERATE 2399 01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,120 TRANSGENIC LINES. 2400 01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:56,480 SO BASICALLY EXPRESS PROTEIN AS 2401 01:51:56,480 --> 01:51:59,120 PART OF THE GENOME. 2402 01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,080 TO RECORD THE SIGNAL FROM THE 2403 01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:05,400 MOUSE OR RODENT BRAIN OR OTHER 2404 01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:12,640 ANIMALS, DR. EMILIANI PRESENTED 2405 01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,400 EXCITING DATA, TWO PHOTON 2406 01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,200 MICROSCOPY FIRST DEMONSTRATED 30 2407 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,880 YEARS AGO, ALLOWS SUBMICRO 2408 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,160 RESOLUTION IN THE HUMAN BRAIN, 2409 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:25,760 THE IMAGE IS A DEMONSTRATION OF 2410 01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:27,520 SINGLE PHOTON FLUORESCENCE WHICH 2411 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:29,560 GENERATES SIGNAL FROM ALL OVER 2412 01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:32,240 THE PLACE, WHEREVER THERE IS 2413 01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:43,680 LIGHT AND FLUORESCENT MEDIUM BUT 2414 01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,200 TWO-PHOTON IN A TINY SPOT, A 2415 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:47,200 WELL-KNOWN TECHNIQUE ANDLY SKIP 2416 01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:49,840 THE DETAILS FOR NOW BUT SHOW AN 2417 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,040 IMAGE WHERE WE CAN SEE SINGLE 2418 01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:53,920 CELLS INSIDE THE MOUSE BRAIN, 2419 01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:57,320 EACH RING SHAPE YOU SEE HERE IS 2420 01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:00,800 A SINGLE CELL, YOU CAN SEE CELLS 2421 01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:02,320 AND SUBCELLULAR PROCESSES. 2422 01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,080 IF THE THOUGHT IS BEING -- 2423 01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,680 RECORDING IS FAST ENOUGH, YOU 2424 01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,320 CAN ALSO RECORD MOVIES LIKE DR. 2425 01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,000 EMILIANI SHOWED WHEN CELLS ARE 2426 01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:13,720 FLASHING, EVERY TIME YOU SEE A 2427 01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:16,040 CELL FLASHES THIS IS THE FIRING 2428 01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,480 OF ACTION POTENTIALS. 2429 01:53:17,480 --> 01:53:20,280 THIS IS A VERY EFFICIENT AND 2430 01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:21,840 USEFUL TECHNIQUE. 2431 01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:23,480 NOW, WE HAVE PREVIOUS TALKS 2432 01:53:23,480 --> 01:53:26,280 TODAY AND YESTERDAY ABOUT 2433 01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,600 RECORDING FROM HUMAN AND 2434 01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:30,680 EXCELLENT BEAUTIFUL DATA AND THE 2435 01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:34,480 QUESTION IS WHY DO WANT TO 2436 01:53:34,480 --> 01:53:36,880 RECORD FROM ANIMALS, 2437 01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:37,880 SPECIFICALLY FROM BEHAVING 2438 01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:38,640 RODENTS. 2439 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:42,280 THE ANSWER WITH ANIMALS WE CAN 2440 01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:43,600 DO EXPERIMENTS AND INTERVENTIONS 2441 01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,600 NOT FEASIBLE WITH HUMAN. 2442 01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,880 FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN DO GENETIC 2443 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:52,040 MANIPULATIONS, OR WE CAN DO 2444 01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:52,640 INVASIVE INTERVENTIONS. 2445 01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,680 THESE TOOLS CAN BE USED FOR 2446 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,920 LONGITUDINAL RECORDINGS TO PROBE 2447 01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:02,440 PROCESS AND LEARNING, MEMORY 2448 01:54:02,440 --> 01:54:04,560 FORMATION LIKE SHOWN BEFORE, 2449 01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,560 AGING AND DISEASE PROGRESSION. 2450 01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,200 AND WHEN ANIMALS WE STUDY ROLE 2451 01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,480 OF SPECIFIC CELL TYPES, IN THIS 2452 01:54:13,480 --> 01:54:13,880 PHENOMENA. 2453 01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:15,680 SO TO RECORD FROM BEHAVING 2454 01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,200 RODENTS, THERE ARE TWO MAIN 2455 01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:19,120 APPROACHES TODAY. 2456 01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:24,040 FIRST ONE IS TO FIX THE RODENT 2457 01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,640 HEAD UNDER MICROSCOPE OR 2458 01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:31,880 MESOSCOPE WHICH HAS ACCESS TO 2459 01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:39,520 LARGER REGION, SECOND TO FIX 2460 01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:40,880 MINIATURIZED DEVICE. 2461 01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,040 THE MOUSE CAN STILL PERFORM SOME 2462 01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:45,680 BEHAVIORAL TASKS LIKE RUNNING ON 2463 01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:49,840 THIS WHEEL OR TREADMILL OR TO BE 2464 01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,680 TRAINED TO SOME TASK. 2465 01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:54,720 AND THEN USING A MICROSCOPE WE 2466 01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,240 CAN RECORD FROM THE MOUSE BRAIN. 2467 01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:58,680 I LIKE THIS MOVIE, FIRST IT 2468 01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:02,360 SHOWED THE LARGE AREA THAT CAN 2469 01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:03,640 BE RECORDED. 2470 01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:05,520 ACTUALLY TO RECORD FAST ENOUGH, 2471 01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,480 IT CAN BE DONE FROM RELATIVELY 2472 01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,240 SMALL NUMBER OF PLANES YOU CAN 2473 01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:10,000 SEE HERE. 2474 01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:13,480 INSIDE THE PLANES WE CAN GET 2475 01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:15,920 ACTIVITY TRACES OF ALL CELLS AND 2476 01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:21,600 HERE IS, AGAIN, A GREAT EXAMPLE. 2477 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:23,320 NOW, THE SECOND APPROACH, WE 2478 01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:28,760 DON'T FIX IN THIS CASE THE MOUSE 2479 01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,360 HEAD BUT WE FIX DEVICE TO THE 2480 01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:32,280 HEAD, LOOKING LIKE THIS. 2481 01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:34,480 THE MOUSE CAN MOVE AROUND WITH 2482 01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:39,160 THIS DEVICE ON ITS HEAD. 2483 01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,280 DURING THIS MOVEMENT THE 2484 01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:43,800 RECORDING HAPPENS. 2485 01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:47,840 THE RECORDED DATA LOOKS 2486 01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:51,160 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 2487 01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:54,880 THIS MOVIE SHOWS FIRST THE 2488 01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:55,320 BEAUTIFUL PERFORMANCE 2489 01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:57,080 CAPABILITY, WE CAN GET NICE 2490 01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:58,320 RESOLUTION RECORDING WHILE THE 2491 01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:00,840 MOUSE IS MOVING AROUND AND DOING 2492 01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:01,280 SOMETHING. 2493 01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:06,040 ALSO WE SEE SOME OF THE 2494 01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:10,200 CHALLENGES, FIELD OF VIEW IS 2495 01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:11,880 SMALL, OPTICAL QUALITY IS 2496 01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:17,480 COMPROMISED COMPARED TO THE 2497 01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:18,240 MICROSCOPES. 2498 01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:19,440 BOTH APPROACHES HAVE SOME 2499 01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:20,280 CHALLENGES. 2500 01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:23,040 FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DO HEAD 2501 01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,680 FIXATION OR MOUSE OR RAT WE 2502 01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:27,600 FORCE THEM INTO UNNATURAL 2503 01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:27,880 POSITION. 2504 01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:29,280 THIS BY ITSELF MIGHT AFFECT HOW 2505 01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,440 THE BRAIN WORKS, HOW IT 2506 01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:33,680 PROCESSES INFORMATION OR WHAT 2507 01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:38,480 CIRCUITS ARE ACTIVATED. 2508 01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,000 FOR THE SECOND APPROACH WHEN 2509 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,600 DEVICE IS ATTACHED TO LET'S SAY 2510 01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:45,680 A MOUSE HEAD, THIS DEVICE WEIGHT 2511 01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,320 IS ACTUALLY FITS ON THE MOUSE 2512 01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:51,520 HEAD, FOR MICE IT CAN BE 10 TO 2513 01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:56,240 20% OF THEIR BODY WEIGHT FORCING 2514 01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:58,840 THEM TO HAVE LESS RESTRICTED 2515 01:56:58,840 --> 01:56:59,720 MOVEMENT, SOME RESTRICTION THAT 2516 01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:02,800 CAN ALSO AFFECT THE WAY THEIR 2517 01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,360 BRAIN PROCESSES INFORMATION AND 2518 01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,160 CIRCUITS THAT ARE ACTIVATED. 2519 01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,960 IN ADDITION THE TWO APPROACHES 2520 01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:13,680 ARE SUITED TO LARGE PLANE OR 2521 01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,480 SMALLER NUMBER OF PLANES 2522 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,440 ACTUALLY SHIFTED BUT NOT REALLY 2523 01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:19,640 FOR THREE DIMENSIONAL RECORDING, 2524 01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,880 AND THE BRAIN IS A THREE 2525 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:24,720 DIMENSIONAL OBJECT. 2526 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,800 THEY MIGHT NEED IMPORTANT 2527 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:28,080 INFORMATION. 2528 01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:31,200 WE WORKED IN MY LAB TO DEVELOP A 2529 01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:33,480 THIRD APPROACH FOR RECORDING 2530 01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:34,880 FROM BEHAVING MICE. 2531 01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,720 THE GOALS IS TO ALLOW FREE 2532 01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:40,920 MOVEMENT WITH NO MECHANICAL 2533 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:42,040 RESTRICTION, ALLOW SIMULTANEOUS 2534 01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:45,200 THREE DIMENSIONAL RECORDING FROM 2535 01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:46,080 LARGE BRAIN REGION. 2536 01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:49,440 THIS IS HOPEFULLY ALLOWING US TO 2537 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:50,640 GET NATURALISTIC BRAIN 2538 01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,960 ACTIVATION PATTERNS. 2539 01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:53,840 WE WANT TO MAINTAIN SINGLE-CELL 2540 01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:54,800 RESOLUTION AND WANT THIS METHOD 2541 01:57:54,800 --> 01:58:00,480 TO BE SIMPLE TO BE ADOPTED BY 2542 01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,800 MANY LABORATORIES. 2543 01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:08,280 WE USE A NEW CALCIUM SENSOR 2544 01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:09,600 CAMPARI, UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS ONE 2545 01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:12,080 I SHOWED YOU DOESN'T CAPTURE 2546 01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:13,960 ACTIVITY BY CHANGE OF 2547 01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:15,720 FLUORESCENCE ACTIVITY BUT CHANGE 2548 01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:17,600 OF COLOR. 2549 01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:19,560 IT'S A GREEN FLUORESCENT 2550 01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:22,720 PROTEIN, HIGH CALCIUM LEVELS, 2551 01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,680 ANY ILLUMINATION WITH A 2552 01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,680 400-NANOMETER PURPLE LIGHT, WILL 2553 01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:28,880 CHANGE COLOR TO RED. 2554 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:32,040 YOU CAN THINK ABOUT AN END GATE, 2555 01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:35,200 TO GET THINGS TOGETHER, SIMILAR 2556 01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:36,280 ACTIVITY, AND LIGHT AND 2557 01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:41,320 TRANSFORMS INTO PERMANENT CHANGE 2558 01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:41,760 IN SIGNAL. 2559 01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:42,720 EXPERIMENTALLY, IT WILL LOOK 2560 01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:44,680 LIKE THAT. 2561 01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:46,480 YOU START EXPERIMENT WITH 2562 01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:47,200 NEURONS LABELED GREEN, 2563 01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:48,480 EXPERIMENT STARTS WHEN YOU TURN 2564 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,120 ON THE LIGHT. 2565 01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,280 ACTIVITY OF NEURONS WILL CAUSE 2566 01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,200 THEM TO CHANGE COLOR FROM GREEN 2567 01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,080 TO RED, WHEN YOU TURN OFF THE 2568 01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:59,800 LIGHT EXPERIMENT IS OVER. 2569 01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:03,280 NOW YOU HAVE ACTIVITY, THAT IS 2570 01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:06,800 IMPRINTED, YOU CAN READ IN 2571 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:08,520 POST-PROCESSING MODE OR THINK 2572 01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,200 ABOUT A CAMERA THAT ALLOWS YOU 2573 01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:14,000 TO CAPTURE SNAPSHOTS OF THE 2574 01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:15,640 NEURAL NETWORK. 2575 01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:17,920 SO TO DEMONSTRATE THE NEW METHOD 2576 01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,560 WE FOLLOWED THREE SIMPLE STEPS, 2577 01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:22,480 FIRST WE EXPRESSED CAMPARI IN 2578 01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:26,320 FIVE BRAIN REGIONS OF THE MOUSE 2579 01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:32,680 CORTEX, THREE MOTOR REGIONS THAT 2580 01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:42,800 CORRESPOND TO OTHER AREAS, AND 2581 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:44,520 TWO SOMATOSENSORY REGIONS. 2582 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:46,600 WE TRAINED THEM TO REPORT 2583 01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:47,280 BEHAVIORAL TASKS. 2584 01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:51,000 TO RECORD ACTIVITY WE TURN ON 2585 01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:58,040 SPECIFIC LAMP THAT ILLUMINATES 2586 01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:01,600 AND RECORD CAMPARI SIGNAL. 2587 02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:06,280 REANESTHETIZE AND RECORD FROM 2588 02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:10,240 SINGLE CELLS USING TWO PHOTO 2589 02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:15,560 MICROSCOPY LED BY DR. DAS FROM 2590 02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,000 MY LAB WITH DR. RABER'S LAB AND 2591 02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:20,560 HERE ARE MOVIES FROM THE 2592 02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:23,760 EXPERIMENTS THEMSELVES. 2593 02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:28,120 THIS IS A NOVEL OBJECT 2594 02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:29,120 RECOGNITION TASK, LIGHT SOURCE 2595 02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:33,160 AT THE TOP, MICE IS FREE TO MOVE 2596 02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:39,840 AND EXPLORE. 2597 02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:43,360 THERE IS ENCLOSED ARENA BUT 2598 02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,160 WITHIN THIS ARENA THE MOUSE CAN 2599 02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:52,160 PERFORM IN A FREELY MOVING 2600 02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:52,480 NATURE. 2601 02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:54,440 SECOND TASK STUDIED, WHEN THE 2602 02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,920 MOST IS ON A ROTATING ROAD, 2603 02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,600 NEEDS TO MAINTAIN BALANCE, THE 2604 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:06,600 LIGHT SOURCE AT THE TOP OF THE 2605 02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:07,280 MOVIE. 2606 02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:10,640 THIRD TASK IS CONDITIONING, THE 2607 02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:12,920 MOUSE LEARNS TO ASSOCIATE FOOD 2608 02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:15,320 SHOCK WITH AUDITORY CUE AND 2609 02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:16,880 BASICALLY THE MOUSE RECEIVES 2610 02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,360 AUDITORY CUE WITHOUT ANY SHOCK 2611 02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:24,400 AND AGAIN WE RECORD CORTICAL 2612 02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:27,040 ACTIVITY. 2613 02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:28,040 AFTER THE EXPERIMENT, WE 2614 02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:29,960 ANESTHETIZE AND READ THE SIGNAL, 2615 02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:33,040 HOW ACTIVITY IS IMPRINTED. 2616 02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:35,440 RED CELLS ARE MORE ACTIVE. 2617 02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:38,200 HERE WE RECORD FROM THE BRAIN 2618 02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:41,880 SURFACE, DOWN TO 330 MICRONS 2619 02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:42,680 DEEP. 2620 02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:44,520 YOU CAN SEE INDIVIDUAL CELLS, 2621 02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:46,920 SOME OF THEM ARE GREEN, SOME ARE 2622 02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:50,000 MORE RED, SOME ARE YELLOW, 2623 02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:51,880 DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ACTIVITY. 2624 02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:54,880 AGAIN, THIS RECORDING IS DONE 2625 02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,160 AFTER THE EXPERIMENT IS 2626 02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:57,840 COMPLETED. 2627 02:01:57,840 --> 02:01:59,320 THIS EXAMPLE DATA SHOWS THE SAME 2628 02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:01,000 FIELD OF VIEW FROM THE SAME 2629 02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:04,760 MOUSE FOR THE THREE DIFFERENT 2630 02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:05,880 TASKS, 14 DAYS APART. 2631 02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:09,200 YOU CAN SEE WE GET DIFFERENT 2632 02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:12,880 ACTIVATION PATTERNS OF THE 2633 02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:13,320 CELLS. 2634 02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,400 WHEN WE QUANTIFY ACROSS SIX 2635 02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:18,320 MICE, WE SEE THAT FOR THE NOVEL 2636 02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:20,760 OBJECT RECOGNITION TASK THERE IS 2637 02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:25,760 2 1/2-FOLD HIGHER LEVEL THAN THE 2638 02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:27,360 CONDITIONING TASK. 2639 02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:31,840 IF WE BREAK DOWN ACTIVITY 2640 02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:33,800 PATTERNS INTO MOTOR VERSUS 2641 02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:37,200 SOMATOSENSORY YOU CAN SEE ON THE 2642 02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:38,640 INSET SOMATOSENSORY REGIONS WERE 2643 02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:40,880 MORE ACTIVE THAN MOTOR REGIONS, 2644 02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,000 WHEN WE BREAK INTO SPECIFIC 2645 02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:57,480 TASKS THIS INCREASE WAS TASK 2646 02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:57,720 SPECIFIC. 2647 02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:05,000 FURTHER INTO THE MOTOR AREAS WE 2648 02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:08,280 RECORDED, WE SEE THIS AREA MORE 2649 02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:14,280 ACTIVE, THEY BOTH PROJECT TO THE 2650 02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:15,200 SAME LIMB. 2651 02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:16,880 AND THIS ACTIVITY IN BETWEEN THE 2652 02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:17,480 TWO REGIONS. 2653 02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:19,120 THIS IS PRELIMINARY DATA FROM 2654 02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:25,080 OUR LAB WHEN WE WANT TO RECORD 2655 02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:26,440 ACROSS THE MOUSE LIFESPAN. 2656 02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:28,960 I SHOWED BEFORE ACTIVITY LEVEL 2657 02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:31,480 ACROSS THE THREE TASKS WAS FROM 2658 02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:32,560 YOUNG HEALTHY MICE. 2659 02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:37,480 WHEN WE RECORDED FROM OLDER 2660 02:03:37,480 --> 02:03:40,200 MICE, 1 YEAR OLD, THE SAME TASK, 2661 02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:42,480 PRELIMINARY DATA, SO STILL NOT 2662 02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:45,120 FINAL, BUT WE SEE FIRST HIGHER 2663 02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:47,200 ACTIVITY LEVELS FOR ALL TASKS. 2664 02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:52,200 WE GET MORE RED SIGNAL FROM 2665 02:03:52,200 --> 02:04:01,080 CAMPARI, RED TO GREEN RATIO 2666 02:04:01,080 --> 02:04:01,320 INCREASES. 2667 02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:04,280 WHEN WE TEST IN OLD MICE THAT 2668 02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:06,000 ALSO EXPRESS HUMAN TAU GENE SO 2669 02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:10,280 THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM SOME TAU 2670 02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:11,680 PATHOLOGIES, SIMILAR TO 2671 02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:12,680 ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE PATHOLOGIES, 2672 02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:16,080 WE SEE THAT IN ADDITION TO 2673 02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:19,840 HIGHER ACTIVITY LEVELS, THE FEAR 2674 02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:20,440 CONDITIONING TASK ALSO SHOWS 2675 02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:22,160 HIGHER ACTIVITY LEVEL THAN THE 2676 02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:24,480 OTHER GROUPS, AND NOW IT'S 2677 02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:27,760 SIMILAR TO THE NOVEL OBJECT 2678 02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:28,400 RECOGNITION. 2679 02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:30,320 WE NEED TO DIG FURTHER AND WE 2680 02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:32,760 HAVE MORE DATA TO RECORD THAN TO 2681 02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:34,640 ALIGN WITH BEHAVIORAL DATA, BUT 2682 02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:36,320 THAT'S VERY INTERESTING IF YOU 2683 02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:38,560 CONSIDER THAT SOME OF THE 2684 02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:45,120 PATHOLOGIES MIGHT BE MEMORY 2685 02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:45,480 DEFICITS. 2686 02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:50,000 THEY MIGHT FORGET FASTER THE 2687 02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:51,120 FEAR CONDITIONING PART AND MOVE 2688 02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:53,640 TO NOVEL OBJECT. 2689 02:04:53,640 --> 02:05:01,280 I HOPE THAT TO TALK MORE IN 2690 02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:02,360 FUTURE TALKS. 2691 02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,000 STILL PLANNING TO RECORD FROM 2692 02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:06,720 OLDER AND MIDDLE AGE MICE AND 2693 02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,120 CHANGE IN LIFESTYLE AFFECTING 2694 02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:10,360 BRAIN ACTIVITY LIKE DIFFERENT 2695 02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:11,440 DIET OR PHYSICAL ACTIVITY. 2696 02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:13,840 OF COURSE WE ALL WANT TO TEST 2697 02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:14,720 HOW TREATMENT WORKS. 2698 02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:15,840 IF THERE ARE EFFICIENT 2699 02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:17,520 TREATMENTS WE WANT TO SEE IF 2700 02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,480 THEY CAN PERFECT THE NEURON 2701 02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:20,760 CIRCUITRY. 2702 02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:23,560 WITH THAT I CONCLUDE. 2703 02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:34,280 I THANK DR. DAS AND MY LAB 2704 02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:39,600 MEMBERS, DR. RABER AND HOLDEN 2705 02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:41,280 AND SCHREITER AND FUNDING 2706 02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:42,080 SOURCES. 2707 02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:43,880 >> THANK YOU, DR. DANA. 2708 02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:54,080 OUR LAST SPEAKER TODAY IS 2709 02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:56,160 VIVIANA GRADINARU, 2021 AAAS 2710 02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:58,400 FELLOW, PH.D. FROM STANFORD 2711 02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:00,240 UNIVERSITY, BACHELOR'S FROM CAL 2712 02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:02,400 TECH, PROFESSOR OF NEUROSCIENCE 2713 02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:04,280 IN BIOLOGICAL ENGINEERING, 2714 02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:06,960 DIRECTOR OF CENTER FOR MOLECULAR 2715 02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:29,680 NEUROSCIENCE AT CHEN INSTITUTE 2716 02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:30,880 AT CAL TECH. 2717 02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:36,320 SHE IS A CO-FOUNDER AND BOARD 2718 02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:37,200 MEMBER OF CAPSIDDA 2719 02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,280 BIOTHERAPEUTICS, A GENE THERAPY 2720 02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:41,240 COMPANY, RECEIVED AMONGST MANY 2721 02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:43,640 HONORS THE NIH DIRECTOR'S 2722 02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:45,400 INNOVATOR AND PIONEER AWARDS, 2723 02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:47,480 PRESIDENTIAL EARLY CAREER AWARD 2724 02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:49,080 FOR SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS, 2725 02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:50,280 OUTSTANDING YOUNG INVESTIGATOR 2726 02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:51,480 AWARDS FROM BOTH AMERICAN 2727 02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:53,960 SOCIETY OF GENE AND CELL THERAPY 2728 02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:56,200 AND SOCIETY FOR NEUROSCIENCE. 2729 02:06:56,200 --> 02:07:04,280 SHE'S BEEN HONORED AT A WORLD 2730 02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:07,160 ECONOMIC FORUM YOUNG SCIENTIST. 2731 02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:09,880 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2732 02:07:09,880 --> 02:07:10,840 I'M ON NEUROTECHNOLOGYIST, TODAY 2733 02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:12,880 I'M EXCITED TO PUT THE TOOLS 2734 02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:14,800 WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING WITH MY 2735 02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:17,480 GROUP OF CAL TECH AND 2736 02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:19,240 COLLABORATORS, IN THE SERVICE OF 2737 02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:20,680 INVESTIGATING THE BRAIN ACROSS 2738 02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:21,640 OF LIFESPAN. 2739 02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:26,880 IT WAS MENTIONED ALREADY THIS IS 2740 02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:28,080 MY SLIDE, THE BIG CHALLENGE 2741 02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:30,440 WE'RE DISCUSSING IS HOW TO 2742 02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:31,800 ACCESS THE BRAIN ACROSS THE 2743 02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:34,080 LIFESPAN AND CHALLENGE I FOCUS 2744 02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:36,280 ON PARTICULARLY IS HOW CAN WE 2745 02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:40,000 TAKE MANY OF THE GENETIC TOOLS 2746 02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:42,160 YOU HEARD ABOUT, AND WONDERFUL 2747 02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:44,120 TO HEAR PROGRESS ON CAMPARI, WE 2748 02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:50,000 WERE EARLY ADOPTERS WHEN IT IT 2749 02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:57,480 CAME OUT AN POTENTIAL IS 2750 02:07:57,480 --> 02:07:57,800 AMAZING. 2751 02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:01,080 HOW CAN WE USE TOOLS IN ADULT 2752 02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:04,560 AND AGING BRAIN, EVEN MORE SO IN 2753 02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:05,760 THE DEVELOPING BRAIN, 2754 02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:06,520 SIGNIFICANT ANATOMICAL 2755 02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:09,120 CHALLENGES WITH THEM. 2756 02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:13,280 THE ADULT AND AGING BRITAIN 2757 02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:16,800 BRAIN HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF 2758 02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:24,160 GETTING ACROSS THE BLOOD-BRAIN 2759 02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:25,680 BARRIER AND PLACENTA, AND HAVE 2760 02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:26,960 DIFFERENT STATES FOR THESE 2761 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,160 BARRIERS, SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT 2762 02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:31,800 TO MEASURE NOT ONLY ACROSS 2763 02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:38,840 LIFESPAN BUT ALSO ACROSS DISEASE 2764 02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:39,080 STATES. 2765 02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:45,000 HOW DO WE GET ACCESS TO ONLY THE 2766 02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:47,400 ONES WE WANT AND ONLY IN THE 2767 02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:49,520 BRAIN REGIONS THAT NEED TO BE 2768 02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:53,120 MODULATED OR MEASURED. 2769 02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:56,800 AND HOW CAN WE DO THIS IN 2770 02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,280 NON-TRANSGENIC FASHION TO ENABLE 2771 02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:02,600 BEYOND TRANSGENIC MODELS, ACROSS 2772 02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:04,080 LIFESPAN. 2773 02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:05,280 AND THE MOTIVATION IS HIGH TO 2774 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:06,960 SOLVE THE CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE 2775 02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:09,120 COMMUNITY OVER DECADES HAS 2776 02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:20,880 CREATED MANY WONDERFUL TOOLS YOU 2777 02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:22,160 ALREADY HEARD ABOUT. 2778 02:09:22,160 --> 02:09:28,040 ALSO TOOLS THAT CAN ALLOW ONE TO 2779 02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:29,320 GENETICALLY PROBE TO MEASURE AND 2780 02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:38,240 RIGHT INACTIVITY. 2781 02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:39,680 HOW DO WE TAKE THE WONDERFUL 2782 02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:42,480 TOOLS AND MAKE GOOD USE OF THEM 2783 02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:45,960 FROM THE SMALL AND 2784 02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:48,040 TRANSGENICALLY AMENABLE MOUSE 2785 02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:49,680 BRAIN TO THE LARGER 2786 02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:51,080 NON-TRANSGENIC BIG BRAINS, IN 2787 02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:59,120 ORDER TO HAVE A CHANCE AT 2788 02:09:59,120 --> 02:10:03,480 UNDERSTANDING COMPLEX BEHAVIORS. 2789 02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:04,080 WE'RE ENCOUNTERING CHALLENGES 2790 02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:06,560 AROUND DELIVERY OF GENES AND 2791 02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:07,680 PHOTONS, THE MORE CHALLENGES YOU 2792 02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:10,280 HAVE AS YOU HEARD IN THIS 2793 02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:11,280 SECTION ALREADY. 2794 02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:14,960 AND FOR THIS WE HAVE TO 2795 02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:15,760 REENGINEER SOME OF THE 2796 02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,840 OPTOGENETIC TOOLS AND ALSO 2797 02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:19,240 ENGINEER SOME GENE DELIVERY 2798 02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:21,080 TOOLS IN ORDER TO PAIR THEM AND, 2799 02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:24,640 FOR EXAMPLE, TO BE ABLE TO 2800 02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:27,360 ACHIEVE DELIVERY OF HIGH 2801 02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:29,640 CONDUCTIVITY AC SENSE THAT 2802 02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:31,840 METHODS THAT CAN HAVE BROAD 2803 02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:33,680 REACHING COVERAGE AND LOOK 2804 02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:35,200 ACROSS LIFESPAN. 2805 02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:37,400 MOST SPECIFICALLY, IN TERMS OF 2806 02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:40,320 GENE DELIVERY, THERE ARE A FEW 2807 02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:40,560 WISHES. 2808 02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:42,080 THAT DEPENDS ON APPLICATION AND 2809 02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:53,480 DEPENDS ON THE RESEARCH QUESTION 2810 02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:54,360 AT HAND. 2811 02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:57,600 WHILE HAVING ABILITY TO BE 2812 02:10:57,600 --> 02:10:59,280 HIGHLY CELL TYPE-SPECIFIC FOR 2813 02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:02,160 DIFFERENT SUBNEURONAL TYPES AND 2814 02:11:02,160 --> 02:11:03,160 ALSO NON-NEURONAL CELL TYPES, 2815 02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:06,880 ABUNDANT AND VERY IMPORTANT IN 2816 02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:08,480 BRAIN PROCESSING, ALSO EQUALLY 2817 02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:10,400 IMPORTANT IS CIRCUIT BASED 2818 02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:16,040 PROJECTION OR TARGETING, GENETIC 2819 02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:19,160 TARGETING BASED ON CIRCUITRY, 2820 02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:20,080 RETROGRADE TRANSPORT, WE ARE 2821 02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:23,680 ABLE TO DO THIS IN OUR FIELD 2822 02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:25,680 WITH DIFFERENT ROUTES OF 2823 02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:33,280 ADMINISTRATION, WHETHER IT'S 2824 02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:34,680 THROUGH VENTRICLES OR INJECTION, 2825 02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:38,280 OR DELIVER THINGS DIRECTLY TO 2826 02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:44,280 THE TISSUE THROUGHOUT THE 2827 02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:47,600 MAMMALIAN BODY WITH INCREASING 2828 02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:50,400 LEVELS FROM RODENTS TO NON-HUMAN 2829 02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:52,280 PRIMATE. 2830 02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:56,480 ONE VECTOR OF CHOICE FOR GENE 2831 02:11:56,480 --> 02:12:00,680 DELIVERY HAS BEEN THE VECTOR 2832 02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:03,480 THAT WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT ITS 2833 02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:05,240 BIOLOGY AND FUNCTION, BENEFITING 2834 02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:09,480 FROM FIVE DECADES OF RESEARCH, 2835 02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:11,680 BASIC DISCOVERY TO TODAY WHERE 2836 02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:14,720 FORTUNATELY NOT ONLY IS THE AAV 2837 02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:17,480 APPROVED AS VECTOR TO IMPROVE 2838 02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:21,400 DISEASE OUTCOME AND IF I MAY SAY 2839 02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:29,920 EVEN CURE MONOGENIC DISORDERS, 2840 02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:35,640 HAS GREAT POTENTIAL IF WE'RE 2841 02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:36,880 FOCUSED ON CRITICAL MISSING 2842 02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:38,920 POINTS AROUND GENE DELIVERY TO 2843 02:12:38,920 --> 02:12:42,000 THE BRAIN ARE STILL AFFECTING 2844 02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:46,680 US, AND ONE BIG DIFFICULTY IS 2845 02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:48,360 HAVING EXPRESSION THROUGHOUT 2846 02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:50,680 NON-TRANSGENIC BRAIN, AS A 2847 02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:52,960 REMINDER AND SPEAKERS HAVE 2848 02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:53,840 MENTIONED THIS MODALITY 2849 02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:56,000 THROUGHOUT THE WORKSHOP WE CAN 2850 02:12:56,000 --> 02:13:01,160 DO THE DIRECTION DELIVERY AND 2851 02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:03,160 THIS CAN HAVE -- FOR SOME 2852 02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:05,440 APPLICATIONS IT'S ADEQUATE. 2853 02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:08,640 IF ONE DESIRES BROAD HOMOGENOUS 2854 02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:10,800 COVERAGE WITH CELL TYPE 2855 02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:12,520 SPECIFICITY IT'S DIFFICULT TO 2856 02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:14,480 TAKE FROM THE MOUSE BRAIN, HERE 2857 02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:16,920 IS DIFFUSION YOU OBTAIN IN A 2858 02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:19,080 MOUSE BRAIN, SCALE UP TO 2859 02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:20,640 INCREASINGLY LARGER BRAINS. 2860 02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:23,680 ONE WAY TO BYPASS THIS CHALLENGE 2861 02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:25,880 IS INSTEAD OF DIRECT 2862 02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:28,400 INTRACRANIAL DELIVERY TO ACCESS 2863 02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:31,800 VASCULATURE TO DELIVER SUCH 2864 02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:33,080 CAPSIDS THAT PACKAGE WITH THE 2865 02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:37,120 GENE OF INTEREST AND GENE 2866 02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:38,000 REGULATORY AMOUNTS FOR 2867 02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:42,880 SPECIFICITY TO DELIVER THROUGH 2868 02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:44,800 BLOODSTREAM AND ACCESS VIA THIS 2869 02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:47,080 ROUTE WITH BROAD COVERAGE ORGANS 2870 02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:50,000 OF INTEREST INCLUDING THE BRAIN. 2871 02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:51,640 THE CHALLENGE UNLIKE HEART OR 2872 02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:54,120 MUSCLE, THE BRAIN IS PROTECTED 2873 02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:57,320 BY THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER, 2874 02:13:57,320 --> 02:14:04,040 DIFFICULT TO GET RESEARCH TOOLS 2875 02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:05,280 OR THERAPIES. 2876 02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:06,880 ONE APPROACH INSPIRED FROM WORK 2877 02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:09,920 FROM DR. ARNOLD THAT PIONEERED 2878 02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:11,880 DIRECT EVOLUTION WAS TO USE 2879 02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:14,880 DIRECTED EVOLUTION ON THE AAV 2880 02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:17,480 CAPSID AND DIVERSIFY THE AAV 2881 02:14:17,480 --> 02:14:19,560 CAPSID SURFACE IN ORDER TO 2882 02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:22,280 RENDER PROPERTIES OR CREATE NEW 2883 02:14:22,280 --> 02:14:24,600 INTERACTIONS THAT MIGHT MEDIATE 2884 02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:26,320 CROSSING THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER 2885 02:14:26,320 --> 02:14:30,120 IN MAMMALS. 2886 02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:31,480 THIS APPROACH IS QUITE 2887 02:14:31,480 --> 02:14:32,320 ENGINEERING FOCUSED BECAUSE WE 2888 02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:36,920 DEAL WITH VERY LARGE NUMBER OF 2889 02:14:36,920 --> 02:14:40,080 VARIANTS AND I GUESS INCOMPLETE 2890 02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:41,680 BIOLOGICAL PERFORMANCE, AND LOW 2891 02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:43,920 COVERAGE, YOU HAVE TO COMBINE 2892 02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:45,440 THE HIGH-THROUGHPUT OF DIRECT 2893 02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:52,440 EVOLUTION WITH INTENSE DATA 2894 02:14:52,440 --> 02:14:53,960 SCIENCE, AND NARROW DOWN 2895 02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:55,600 THEORETICAL LIBRARY PUT INTO THE 2896 02:14:55,600 --> 02:14:57,800 SYSTEM IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS ONE 2897 02:14:57,800 --> 02:15:02,400 TO SELECT A FEW CAPSIDS WITH 2898 02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:04,240 DESIRED PROPERTIES THAT CAN 2899 02:15:04,240 --> 02:15:07,400 PERFORM DESIRED TASKS SUCH AS 2900 02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:08,920 CROSSING BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER. 2901 02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:12,760 AAV 9 HAS A WEAK PERFORMANCE 2902 02:15:12,760 --> 02:15:14,160 CROSSING THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER 2903 02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:16,280 IN ADULT BRAIN, IMPORTANT IN 2904 02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:17,280 CONTEXT OF THE WORKSHOP, I HAVE 2905 02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:21,320 TO MENTION AND GIVE CREDIT TOE 2906 02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,880 AAV9, AN APPROVED GENE THERAPY 2907 02:15:23,880 --> 02:15:28,000 DELIVERED IN CHILDREN TO DELIVER 2908 02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:33,080 THE SMN GENE TO IMPROVE OUTCOME 2909 02:15:33,080 --> 02:15:35,840 FOR SPINAL MUSCULAR ATROPHY. 2910 02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:40,360 IT CROSSES THE BLOOD-BRAIN 2911 02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:44,000 BARRIER IN NEONATES WITH GOOD 2912 02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:44,880 COVERAGE. 2913 02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:48,000 AS THE ORGANISM MATURES, IT DID 2914 02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,280 NOT CROSS AS EFFICIENTLY. 2915 02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:52,440 THE PERFORMANCE OF GENE DELIVERY 2916 02:15:52,440 --> 02:15:53,720 VECTORS ACROSS LIFESPAN IS A 2917 02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:55,560 VERY IMPORTANT VARIABLE. 2918 02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:58,480 IN THIS CASE IN ADULT BRAIN UPON 2919 02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:00,080 ENGINEERING THROUGH DIRECT 2920 02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:02,520 EVOLUTION YOU CAN OBTAIN 2921 02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:04,400 INCREASINGLY BETTER VECTORS THAT 2922 02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:11,480 CAN DELIVER GENES WITH SIMPLE 2923 02:16:11,480 --> 02:16:12,400 BLOODSTREAM INJECTION. 2924 02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:15,000 ONLY THE CAPSID IS MODIFIED, YOU 2925 02:16:15,000 --> 02:16:19,680 CAN BE CREATIVE WITH CARGO AND 2926 02:16:19,680 --> 02:16:21,280 CAN PACKAGE SENSORS OR 2927 02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:22,600 MORPHOLOGY LABELS WITH GENE 2928 02:16:22,600 --> 02:16:24,040 REGULATORY ELEMENTS TO GET 2929 02:16:24,040 --> 02:16:28,280 ACCESS TO DIFFERENT CELL TYPES 2930 02:16:28,280 --> 02:16:29,840 AND SUBTYPES TO MAMMALIAN BRAIN, 2931 02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:31,480 HERE I'M SHOW THE MOUSE BRAIN. 2932 02:16:31,480 --> 02:16:33,440 FURTHERMORE YOU CAN USE 2933 02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:36,160 COMBINED, FOR EXAMPLE, TWO VIRAL 2934 02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:39,320 VECTOR APPROACHES TO MIMIC THE 2935 02:16:39,320 --> 02:16:43,040 GOLGI-TYPE LABELING, IMPORTANTLY 2936 02:16:43,040 --> 02:16:45,040 IN THIS CASE SURRENDERING 2937 02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:48,160 GENETIC INFORMATION. 2938 02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:49,000 DELIVERINGFLUORESCENT PROTEINS 2939 02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:52,080 IN A SYSTEM TO ALLOW ONE TO 2940 02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:54,840 COMBINE TISSUE CLEARING OF THE 2941 02:16:54,840 --> 02:16:58,160 MOUSE BRAIN, CAN NOW ALLOW ONE 2942 02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:00,640 TO TRACE THE MORPHOLOGIES OF 2943 02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:03,080 CELLS THROUGHOUT THE BRAIN AND 2944 02:17:03,080 --> 02:17:07,200 IN A WAY ONE CAN CONTROL DENSITY 2945 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:17,720 OF LABELS BECAUSE IT BECOMES 2946 02:17:17,720 --> 02:17:19,480 VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO 2947 02:17:19,480 --> 02:17:21,640 RECONSTITUTE MORPHOLOGIES OF 2948 02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:25,600 SCALE AND ONE MIGHT WANT TO 2949 02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:27,520 DELIVER ACTUATORS TO AFFECT 2950 02:17:27,520 --> 02:17:29,600 NEURAL ACTIVITY AND ULTIMATELY 2951 02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:29,880 BEHAVIOR. 2952 02:17:29,880 --> 02:17:34,880 WITH SYSTEMIC DELIVERY IT'S 2953 02:17:34,880 --> 02:17:38,120 WORTH NOTING THERE'S FEWER COPY 2954 02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:40,680 NUMBERS. 2955 02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:43,880 CAN YOU DELIVER ENOUGH CHEMO 2956 02:17:43,880 --> 02:17:53,680 GENETIC OR OPT GENETIC TOOLS TO 2957 02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:57,520 HAVE A PHYSIOLOGIC EFFECT? 2958 02:17:57,520 --> 02:17:59,960 IN AN ANIMAL WHERE WE HAVE THE 2959 02:17:59,960 --> 02:18:03,920 BENEFITS, IN MOUSE MODEL IN A 2960 02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:05,680 HAS BENEFITS OF TARGETING 2961 02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:09,360 DOPAMINERGIC CELLS, YOU CAN SEE 2962 02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:13,480 IN THE VIDEO WITH CHEMICAL 2963 02:18:13,480 --> 02:18:14,000 LIGAND HYPERLOCOMOTORRING 2964 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:18,600 ANIMAL, WITH THE CONTROL 2965 02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:20,680 LOCOMOTION IS BASELINE. 2966 02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:24,040 YOU CAN USE NON-INVASIVE WAY TO 2967 02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:24,720 MODULATE BEHAVIOR IN GENETICALLY 2968 02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:27,360 SPECIFIC FASHION. 2969 02:18:27,360 --> 02:18:30,400 THIS TASK WAS HARDER 2970 02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:31,400 FOREOPTOGENETICS, WE WERE 2971 02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:33,040 MOTIVATED TO MAKE SYSTEMIC 2972 02:18:33,040 --> 02:18:36,200 DELIVERY WORK FOR THE BENEFITS I 2973 02:18:36,200 --> 02:18:38,840 DESCRIBED BEFORE. 2974 02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:40,360 HOWEVER, CONDUCTIVITY OF EARLIER 2975 02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:44,400 OPSINS WAS NOT HIGH ENOUGH TO 2976 02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:46,000 MATCH THE LOWER MULTIPLICITY 2977 02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:48,080 WITH SYSTEMIC DELIVERY. 2978 02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:55,720 WHAT WE DID IN ORDER TO ADVANCE 2979 02:18:55,720 --> 02:18:58,800 USE OF OPTOGENETIC SENSORS WAS 2980 02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:00,880 ENGINEER TO INCREASE 2981 02:19:00,880 --> 02:19:02,920 CONDUCTIVITY, USING A SIMILAR 2982 02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:05,600 APPROACH FOR AAV, DIRECT 2983 02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:13,040 EVOLUTION, BUT HAD TO COUPLE 2984 02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:14,800 WITH MACHINE LEARNING, PATCH 2985 02:19:14,800 --> 02:19:17,040 CLAMP OR MEASURE CURRENTS VERY 2986 02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:17,920 LOW THROUGHPUT WHILE DIRECT 2987 02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:20,560 EVOLUTION IS HIGH-THROUGHPUT SO 2988 02:19:20,560 --> 02:19:22,240 WE NEEDED DATA APPROACH TO 2989 02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:25,720 BRIDGE MODALITIES WHERE WE WOULD 2990 02:19:25,720 --> 02:19:27,240 GENERATE COMPLEXITY FROM PARENT 2991 02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:32,880 OPSINS AND MEASURE ONLY A SUBSET 2992 02:19:32,880 --> 02:19:34,400 OF RESULTING VARIANTS LOCALIZING 2993 02:19:34,400 --> 02:19:35,600 THROUGH PLASMA MEMBRANE AND 2994 02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:40,080 LEARN FROM DATA AND PREDICT ON 2995 02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:42,640 THE SPACE THAT'S BEYOND SINGLE 2996 02:19:42,640 --> 02:19:48,880 CELL PATCHING PROBABILITIES, AND 2997 02:19:48,880 --> 02:19:51,280 THROUGH THIS PROCESS A FORMER 2998 02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:52,840 GRADUATE STUDENT FOUND OPSINS 2999 02:19:52,840 --> 02:19:53,880 WITH HIGHER CONDUCTIVITY. 3000 02:19:53,880 --> 02:20:00,080 YOU CAN SEE WITH DIRECTION 3001 02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:01,080 INJECTION PERFORMANCE OF 3002 02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:03,800 CHANNELRHODOPSIN AND PERFORMANCE 3003 02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:05,880 OF OPSINS THAT CLAIRE GENERATED 3004 02:20:05,880 --> 02:20:07,680 WITH DIRECT EVOLUTION AND 3005 02:20:07,680 --> 02:20:10,120 MACHINE LEARNING. 3006 02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:11,600 CONDUCTIVITY OF THESE ADVANCED 3007 02:20:11,600 --> 02:20:13,560 OPSINS SHE CALLED THEM CHARGERS 3008 02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:17,160 IS HIGH ENOUGH SO THEY HAVE VERY 3009 02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:18,920 GOOD PERFORMANCE WITH DELIVERY, 3010 02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:24,040 TESTED IN A BEHAVIORAL CONTEXT 3011 02:20:24,040 --> 02:20:26,280 BY PACKAGING IMPROVED HIGHER 3012 02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:27,320 CONDUCTIVITY OPSIN CHARGER TOOL 3013 02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:30,120 IN A CAPSID THAT I PRESENTED 3014 02:20:30,120 --> 02:20:33,120 BEFORE THAT'S DELIVERED TO THE 3015 02:20:33,120 --> 02:20:34,320 BLOODSTREAM OF A WILDTYPE MOUSE. 3016 02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:39,240 THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE OPSIN 3017 02:20:39,240 --> 02:20:39,760 DISTRIBUTION NON-INVASIVE 3018 02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:41,880 THROUGHOUT THE BRAIN AND IN 3019 02:20:41,880 --> 02:20:48,400 ORDER TO ACTIVATE CELLS CLAIRE 3020 02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:52,040 AND ELLIOTT, DR. ROBINSON HAS 3021 02:20:52,040 --> 02:20:54,520 HIS OWN HOW, THEY THINNED THE 3022 02:20:54,520 --> 02:20:56,360 SKULL, APPLIED THE LIGHT, WERE 3023 02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:59,240 ABLE TO AFFECT LOCOMOTION IN THE 3024 02:20:59,240 --> 02:21:00,080 WILDTYPE MOUSE WITHOUT ANY 3025 02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:03,920 BREAKING OF THE SKILL OR ANY -- 3026 02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:13,560 THROUGH THE BRAIN PARENCHYMA. 3027 02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:18,120 WHEN ONE CONTROLS BEE -- 3028 02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:20,000 BEHAVIOR, IF THE INTENTION IS 3029 02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:26,080 THE BRAIN AND DELIVERY SYSTEMIC, 3030 02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:28,200 THERE STILL BE CO-FOUND FROM 3031 02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:29,200 OTHER ORGANS, IMPORTANT TO 3032 02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:36,000 HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE WE WORKED WITH 3033 02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:37,840 STANFORD TO LABEL ENGINEERED 3034 02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:41,520 CAPSIDS WITH PET REPORTERS THAT 3035 02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:42,640 ALLOWED US TO SEE 3036 02:21:42,640 --> 02:21:45,480 BIODISTRIBUTION OF PARENT 3037 02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:48,080 CAPSIDS AND ENGINEERED CAPSIDS, 3038 02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:50,880 WHILE AAV9 SHOWS VERY LITTLE 3039 02:21:50,880 --> 02:21:57,280 PRESENCE IN RODENT BRAIN, EVEN A 3040 02:21:57,280 --> 02:21:59,200 DAY AFTER DELIVERY, PHP.EB WAS 3041 02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:04,320 STRONG IN THE BRAIN, STRONG 3042 02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:06,760 EXPRESSION IN HEART, LIVER, 3043 02:22:06,760 --> 02:22:08,600 OTHER ORGANS, IMPORTANT TOOL TO 3044 02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:10,880 CONTINUALLY WORK ON REFINING 3045 02:22:10,880 --> 02:22:12,480 SELECTIVITY AND SPECIFICITY OF 3046 02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:19,240 SUCH GENE DELIVERY METHODS. 3047 02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:22,920 IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THIS WE 3048 02:22:22,920 --> 02:22:25,480 PERFORMED THE SELECTIONS IN 3049 02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:27,920 PARALLEL IN PRE-TRANSGENIC MICE, 3050 02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:31,760 APPLIED DEPENDING ON THE CRE 3051 02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:33,200 RECOMBINATION WAS EXPRESSED, 3052 02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:34,200 APPLY PRESSURE FOR POSITIVE 3053 02:22:34,200 --> 02:22:35,880 SELECTION, FOR EXAMPLE, TO 3054 02:22:35,880 --> 02:22:37,480 TARGET DIFFERENT CELL TYPES 3055 02:22:37,480 --> 02:22:38,880 WITHIN THE BRAIN OR NEGATIVE 3056 02:22:38,880 --> 02:22:41,000 SELECTION, TO STAY AWAY FROM THE 3057 02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:43,440 LIVER OR HEART, AND BY LOOKING 3058 02:22:43,440 --> 02:22:50,720 AT THE MOTIFS OF THE CAPSIDS, 3059 02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:53,720 PEPTIDE CHANGES, WE WOULD LOOK 3060 02:22:53,720 --> 02:22:55,280 AT CHANGES IN MOTIF FOR POSITIVE 3061 02:22:55,280 --> 02:22:56,680 AND NEGATIVE SELECTION, THIS 3062 02:22:56,680 --> 02:23:00,040 RESULTS IN QUITE LARGE DATASET 3063 02:23:00,040 --> 02:23:02,600 BUT THEY BECOME DOWNSTREAM ONCE 3064 02:23:02,600 --> 02:23:09,360 YOU BREAK DOWN INTO PATTERNS AND 3065 02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:11,720 CLASH ON MOTIFS IN DIFFERENT 3066 02:23:11,720 --> 02:23:15,160 SPECIES, AND THIS PROCESS 3067 02:23:15,160 --> 02:23:23,040 ALLOWED US TO SYSTEMATICALLY 3068 02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:27,520 EXTRACT CAPSIDS PSYCHOTROPIC OR 3069 02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:34,200 BIASED, SOME NOT SPECIFIC, SUCH 3070 02:23:34,200 --> 02:23:39,680 AS PHP.N, WORTH NOTING PATTERNS 3071 02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:41,880 ARE OBTAINED WITH UBIQUITINNOUS 3072 02:23:41,880 --> 02:23:42,960 PROMOTERS, IN TERMS OF 3073 02:23:42,960 --> 02:23:46,120 MORPHOLOGY OF CELL TIMES IS DUE 3074 02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:55,280 TO CAPSID AND NOT GENE 3075 02:23:55,280 --> 02:23:56,680 REGULATORY ELEMENTS. 3076 02:23:56,680 --> 02:23:57,600 WITH SINGLE CELL SEQUENCING, 3077 02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:02,720 THERE'S METHODS FOR BOTH NOW, WE 3078 02:24:02,720 --> 02:24:06,680 CAN COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT 3079 02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:08,720 SPECIFICITY ABOUT VECTORS, THE 3080 02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:11,680 COMBINATION OF HIGH-THROUGHPUT 3081 02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:14,200 DIRECTED EVOLUTION, INCREASINGLY 3082 02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:18,800 HIGH-THROUGHPUT ABILITY TO 3083 02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:22,640 ANALYZE AND PROFILE ACT TO EXACT 3084 02:24:22,640 --> 02:24:23,920 CAPSIDS WITH INCREASINGLY 3085 02:24:23,920 --> 02:24:25,280 DESIRED PROTEINS SUCH AS 3086 02:24:25,280 --> 02:24:26,800 TARGETING MOUSE BRAIN FOR 3087 02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:27,920 SYSTEMIC DELIVERY YOU ABOUT 3088 02:24:27,920 --> 02:24:28,880 AVOID THE LIVER. 3089 02:24:28,880 --> 02:24:33,040 YOU CAN SEE THE PARENT, AAV 9, 3090 02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:42,880 PERFORMANCE IN THE BRAIN, WEAK, 3091 02:24:42,880 --> 02:24:46,240 INTERMEDIATE PHP.B CROSSING THE 3092 02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:48,080 BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER, A LOAD 3093 02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:52,280 COULD CAUSE UNWANTED SIDE 3094 02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:53,200 EFFECTS, REQUIRING HIGHER DOSAGE 3095 02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:56,040 FOR ANIMAL, TO A VARIANT THAT 3096 02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:59,680 CAN CROSS THE BLOOD-BRAIN 3097 02:24:59,680 --> 02:25:01,160 BARRIER, IMPORTANTLY AVOIDING 3098 02:25:01,160 --> 02:25:02,080 PERIPHERAL TISSUES INCLUDING THE 3099 02:25:02,080 --> 02:25:02,800 LIVER HERE. 3100 02:25:02,800 --> 02:25:05,560 IT'S WORTH NOTING IN THE CONTEXT 3101 02:25:05,560 --> 02:25:08,320 OF THE WORKSHOP BIOLOGICAL 3102 02:25:08,320 --> 02:25:11,040 VARIABLES ARE EXTREMELY 3103 02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:11,640 IMPORTANT. 3104 02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:13,880 AND IN THIS CASE I'M 3105 02:25:13,880 --> 02:25:15,160 ILLUSTRATING CAN MOUSE BRAIN 3106 02:25:15,160 --> 02:25:15,800 DIFFERENCE. 3107 02:25:15,800 --> 02:25:22,720 YOU CAN SEE PERFORMANCE OF AAV 9 3108 02:25:22,720 --> 02:25:26,040 AND ENGINEERING PHP.B, DIFFERENT 3109 02:25:26,040 --> 02:25:28,640 STRAINS, CONTROLLED MOUSE 3110 02:25:28,640 --> 02:25:29,680 STRAINS, STRIKING DIFFERENCES 3111 02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:36,880 BETWEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, 57 BLACK 6 3112 02:25:36,880 --> 02:25:37,520 AND BALB/C. 3113 02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:42,800 A FEW LESSONS TO LEARN, ONE, THE 3114 02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:44,200 BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER IS 3115 02:25:44,200 --> 02:25:45,280 HETEROGENEOUS, EVEN ACROSS 3116 02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:47,120 DIFFERENT MOUSE STRAINS, SO IT 3117 02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:51,480 IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO 3118 02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:53,880 CONSIDER BIOLOGICAL VARIABLES 3119 02:25:53,880 --> 02:25:57,280 SUCH AS SEX, AGE, IN THIS CASE 3120 02:25:57,280 --> 02:25:58,800 GENETIC BACKGROUND OR IF I CAN 3121 02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:05,000 EXTEND IT, IN THE CONTEXT OF 3122 02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:05,880 HUMAN GENE THERAPY ANCESTRY. 3123 02:26:05,880 --> 02:26:08,640 THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT 3124 02:26:08,640 --> 02:26:11,400 BUT ALSO BECAUSE YOU SEE THERE'S 3125 02:26:11,400 --> 02:26:14,640 VERY CRISP PATTERNS GIVES US 3126 02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:15,760 MECHANISTIC INSIGHT, AND THIS 3127 02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:19,880 CAN ALLOW US TO BYPASS THIS 3128 02:26:19,880 --> 02:26:20,880 PROBLEM SYSTEMATICALLY AND 3129 02:26:20,880 --> 02:26:23,920 INDEED BY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT 3130 02:26:23,920 --> 02:26:25,680 BIOLOGICAL VARIABLES, BEING 3131 02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:30,160 AWARE, ONE CAN BYPASS 3132 02:26:30,160 --> 02:26:33,000 LIMITATIONS AND HAVE -- NOW, 3133 02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:36,080 I'LL CLOSE SOON, WE HAVE CAPSIDS 3134 02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:37,720 TO COVER MOUSE STRAINS, AND EVEN 3135 02:26:37,720 --> 02:26:39,880 NON-HUMAN PRIMATE, THIS IS AN 3136 02:26:39,880 --> 02:26:42,280 EXAMPLE IN THE MARMOSET BRAIN 3137 02:26:42,280 --> 02:26:44,680 WHERE ENGINEERED AAVs TO 3138 02:26:44,680 --> 02:26:45,880 BLOODSTREAM DELIVERY CAN 3139 02:26:45,880 --> 02:26:47,440 EFFICIENTLY COVER THE MARMOSET 3140 02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:48,040 BRAIN. 3141 02:26:48,040 --> 02:26:51,000 IN MOST RECENT WORK WITH 3142 02:26:51,000 --> 02:26:52,440 WONDERFUL COLLABORATORS FROM 3143 02:26:52,440 --> 02:26:54,960 DAVIS LED BY DR. DREW FOX, WE 3144 02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:56,400 WERE ABLE TO DELIVER GENES 3145 02:26:56,400 --> 02:26:59,080 ACROSS THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER 3146 02:26:59,080 --> 02:27:04,480 TO MACAQUE BRAIN, NEONATE AND 3147 02:27:04,480 --> 02:27:09,120 INFANT MACAQUE BRAIN. 3148 02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:10,640 NON-TRANSGENIC PATTERN WE CAN 3149 02:27:10,640 --> 02:27:15,320 DELIVER MULTIPLE GENES ACROSS 3150 02:27:15,320 --> 02:27:17,880 MONTH OLD RHESUS MACAQUE, CAN 3151 02:27:17,880 --> 02:27:20,080 GOOD DISTRIBUTION BRAIN-WIDE, 3152 02:27:20,080 --> 02:27:26,280 SHOWING EXAMPLES FROM CORTEX, 3153 02:27:26,280 --> 02:27:27,480 CEREBELLUM, PALAMOSE. 3154 02:27:27,480 --> 02:27:29,240 THIS IS COLLECTION IS 3155 02:27:29,240 --> 02:27:34,880 INCREASING, AND THERE'S MORE 3156 02:27:34,880 --> 02:27:37,720 DETAILS ON THE WEBSITE, MANY 3157 02:27:37,720 --> 02:27:39,200 TOOLS ALREADY OR SOON AVAILABLE 3158 02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:41,000 ON OUR GENE, COVERED IN THIS 3159 02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:44,720 REVIEW THAT SHOULD SOON BE OUT, 3160 02:27:44,720 --> 02:27:46,040 OPEN ACCESS FOR EVERYBODY TO 3161 02:27:46,040 --> 02:27:46,360 READ. 3162 02:27:46,360 --> 02:27:53,520 IN CLOSING I WILL PUT THE KEY 3163 02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:54,920 CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED 3164 02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:55,840 EFFICIENT SPECIFIC AND 3165 02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:58,080 NON-SPECIFIC DELIVERY TO ALL 3166 02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:00,960 BRAINS TO MAXIMIZE ABILITY TO 3167 02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:02,480 DELIVER DIVERSIFIED GENETIC 3168 02:28:02,480 --> 02:28:03,920 CARGO ACROSS THE LIFESPAN, AND 3169 02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:07,200 THERE ARE OF COURSE WISHES FOR 3170 02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:09,480 EFFICIENCY AND SAFETY IN 3171 02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:10,520 WIDESPREAD DELIVERY ACHIEVED 3172 02:28:10,520 --> 02:28:14,240 WITH SYSTEMIC METHODS, BUT WE 3173 02:28:14,240 --> 02:28:18,760 NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OFF 3174 02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:23,480 TARGET EFFECT AND COMPATIBILITY 3175 02:28:23,480 --> 02:28:25,680 WITH CARGO, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT 3176 02:28:25,680 --> 02:28:28,960 TO WORK ON TROPIC CAPSIDS TO 3177 02:28:28,960 --> 02:28:30,480 MINIMIZE GENE REGULATORY 3178 02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:31,080 ELEMENTS, MAYBE TOWARDS CAPSID 3179 02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:32,760 SIZE INCREASE BUT THAT'S A 3180 02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:34,200 DIFFICULT TASK. 3181 02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:36,960 I WILL THANK MY TEAM AND VERY 3182 02:28:36,960 --> 02:28:39,440 GRATEFUL TO THE BRAIN INITIATIVE 3183 02:28:39,440 --> 02:28:45,440 THAT FUNDED THIS AAV WORK AND 3184 02:28:45,440 --> 02:28:46,880 ESPECIALLY WAYS TO AMPLIFY AND 3185 02:28:46,880 --> 02:28:49,040 DISTRIBUTE AND COLLABORATE WITH 3186 02:28:49,040 --> 02:28:49,360 THE TOOLS. 3187 02:28:49,360 --> 02:28:52,680 THERE'S A FEW RESOURCES HERE IF 3188 02:28:52,680 --> 02:28:56,080 YOU'RE INTERESTED TO USE TOOLS 3189 02:28:56,080 --> 02:29:00,080 AND I'LL PAUSE HERE. 3190 02:29:00,080 --> 02:29:01,080 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3191 02:29:01,080 --> 02:29:03,880 THIS HAS BEEN AN AMAZING SET OF 3192 02:29:03,880 --> 02:29:04,520 TALKS. 3193 02:29:04,520 --> 02:29:06,480 I COULD WAX LYRICAL AND OF BUT 3194 02:29:06,480 --> 02:29:07,800 I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. 3195 02:29:07,800 --> 02:29:10,680 I WANT TO MOVE IMMEDIATELY TO 3196 02:29:10,680 --> 02:29:12,640 THE QUESTIONS AND OUR 3197 02:29:12,640 --> 02:29:12,920 DISCUSSION. 3198 02:29:12,920 --> 02:29:15,720 BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 3199 02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:17,080 QUESTIONS AND I THINK WE MIGHT 3200 02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:20,840 WANT TO START WITH THE CHAT, 3201 02:29:20,840 --> 02:29:24,960 WHICH ARE FOR ELLEN GRANT. 3202 02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:26,840 WE HAVE -- LET'S SEE FOR DR. 3203 02:29:26,840 --> 02:29:27,920 GRANT. 3204 02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:38,400 I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE ONE IN 3205 02:29:38,400 --> 02:29:39,560 THE CHAT. 3206 02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:41,520 THE QUESTION TO DR. GRANT, 3207 02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:43,480 THANKS FOR A WONDERFUL 3208 02:29:43,480 --> 02:29:44,080 PRESENTATION. 3209 02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:46,560 HOW DO SPONTANEOUS ACTIVITY 3210 02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:48,560 TRANSIENT OR SAT WAVES SIGNAL 3211 02:29:48,560 --> 02:29:49,480 DEVELOPMENT OF MATURE CIRCUITS? 3212 02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:51,800 WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE ROLE OF 3213 02:29:51,800 --> 02:29:54,280 THE SPONTANEOUS ACTIVITY IN THE 3214 02:29:54,280 --> 02:29:58,480 ADULT OR AGING BRAIN? 3215 02:29:58,480 --> 02:30:06,080 >> WELL, FIRST, SPONTANEOUS 3216 02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:08,520 ACTIVITY TRANSITS ARE ONLY IN 3217 02:30:08,520 --> 02:30:12,240 THE MATURE BRAIN, MOVING TO 3218 02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:13,560 MATURE PATTERN WITH 3219 02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:15,160 CORTICAL-CORTICAL INSTEAD OF 3220 02:30:15,160 --> 02:30:17,480 SUBPLATE NEURONS, I DON'T KNOW 3221 02:30:17,480 --> 02:30:23,080 THAT THERE IS A ROLE IN ADULT 3222 02:30:23,080 --> 02:30:24,880 MAJORING BRAIN. 3223 02:30:24,880 --> 02:30:26,880 SUBPLATE NEURONS DISAPPEAR LATER 3224 02:30:26,880 --> 02:30:31,200 IN GESTATION, NOT PRESENT IN 3225 02:30:31,200 --> 02:30:46,880 AGING BRAIN. 3226 02:30:46,880 --> 02:30:47,000 3227 02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:51,360 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. 3228 02:30:51,360 --> 02:30:53,440 NEXT A QUESTION FOR GEORGE 3229 02:30:53,440 --> 02:30:55,440 DRAGOI FROM HOLLIS CLINE. 3230 02:30:55,440 --> 02:30:56,960 THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTERESTING 3231 02:30:56,960 --> 02:30:57,200 TALK. 3232 02:30:57,200 --> 02:31:00,920 REGARDING DEVELOPMENT OF CIRCUIT 3233 02:31:00,920 --> 02:31:02,160 FOR REPLAY, PRE-PLAY, PRE-PLAY, 3234 02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:05,280 HAVE YOU TESTED, IF YOU BLOCK 3235 02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:07,480 SPONTANEOUS PRENATAL WAVES IN 3236 02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:09,840 THE RETINA WHICH MIMIC NATURAL 3237 02:31:09,840 --> 02:31:17,520 OBJECT FLOW OR -- ARE PLACED 3238 02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:18,280 CELLS DISRUPTED? 3239 02:31:18,280 --> 02:31:21,800 >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 3240 02:31:21,800 --> 02:31:23,760 SO WE'RE INVESTIGATING THE ROLE 3241 02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:27,560 OF PRE-PLAY, NOT THROUGH 3242 02:31:27,560 --> 02:31:28,320 BLOCKING SPONTANEOUS PRENATAL 3243 02:31:28,320 --> 02:31:30,960 RETINAL WAVES. 3244 02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:35,960 WE DID NOT SEE SIGNIFICANT 3245 02:31:35,960 --> 02:31:38,280 PRE-PLAY AT 15, 16, ONLY 3246 02:31:38,280 --> 02:31:38,960 POSTNATALLY. 3247 02:31:38,960 --> 02:31:41,160 SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S 3248 02:31:41,160 --> 02:31:46,720 SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT MORE 3249 02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:47,600 FOR THE FUTURE. 3250 02:31:47,600 --> 02:31:48,320 >> OKAY. 3251 02:31:48,320 --> 02:31:54,120 WE HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR 3252 02:31:54,120 --> 02:31:54,880 DR. EMILIANI. 3253 02:31:54,880 --> 02:31:56,120 I THINK THE FIRST ONE, LET'S SEE 3254 02:31:56,120 --> 02:32:01,800 IF I CAN MAKE SURE I GO TO THE 3255 02:32:01,800 --> 02:32:02,480 FIRST ONE FIRST. 3256 02:32:02,480 --> 02:32:04,640 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WONDERFUL 3257 02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:05,400 TALK. 3258 02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:07,480 HOW EASILY CAN HOLOGRAPHIC TOOLS 3259 02:32:07,480 --> 02:32:13,480 BE EXTENDED TO STRUCTURES DEEPER 3260 02:32:13,480 --> 02:32:14,200 IN THE BRAIN? 3261 02:32:14,200 --> 02:32:15,480 >> YES, SO THANKS FOR THE 3262 02:32:15,480 --> 02:32:17,560 QUESTION. 3263 02:32:17,560 --> 02:32:22,680 THERE IS SOME WAY, TO COUPLE 3264 02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:24,880 THIS APPROACH TO IMPLANTABLE 3265 02:32:24,880 --> 02:32:29,000 GREEN LENS, WE'VE SHOWN THE 3266 02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:31,840 PROPAGATION OF TEMPORALLY 3267 02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:32,880 FOCUSED HOLOGRAPHIC, GOING 3268 02:32:32,880 --> 02:32:36,240 THROUGH THE GREEN LENS, SO THIS 3269 02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:38,280 IS USUALLY THE FIELD OF VIEW IS 3270 02:32:38,280 --> 02:32:42,680 SMALLER THAN WHAT WOULD BE 3271 02:32:42,680 --> 02:32:44,520 ACHIEVABLE WITH CONVENTIONAL 3272 02:32:44,520 --> 02:32:46,920 OBJECTIVE BUT NORMALLY DEEPER 3273 02:32:46,920 --> 02:32:48,680 REGION ALSO CONTROL WITH REDUCED 3274 02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:51,560 NUMBER OF CELLS SO I THINK THIS 3275 02:32:51,560 --> 02:32:51,840 IS DOABLE. 3276 02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:55,080 AND STILL IF WE JUST WANT TO 3277 02:32:55,080 --> 02:32:57,120 COUPLE NORMAL MICROSCOPE WITH 3278 02:32:57,120 --> 02:33:01,840 GREEN LENS, THIS WILL STILL 3279 02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:03,800 REQUIRE SAME ANIMAL, MORE 3280 02:33:03,800 --> 02:33:05,480 RECENTLY WORKING ON DEVELOPING 3281 02:33:05,480 --> 02:33:07,200 HOLOGRAPHIC SYSTEM WHERE WE CAN 3282 02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:10,920 DO FREELY MOVING ANIMALS, IN 3283 02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:12,680 THIS CASE HOLOGRAPHIC AND TERM 3284 02:33:12,680 --> 02:33:17,840 FOLLOW FOCUS WITH FIBER BUNDLE 3285 02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:20,240 AND GREEN LENS ENABLE TO 3286 02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:24,920 MANIPULATE IN FREE MOVING 3287 02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:25,360 ANIMALS. 3288 02:33:25,360 --> 02:33:31,280 WE HAVE TO USE IMPLANTABLE GREEN 3289 02:33:31,280 --> 02:33:36,160 LENS, 150 MICROMETERS IN 3290 02:33:36,160 --> 02:33:37,280 DIAMETER, CONTROL FOR 30, 40 3291 02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:39,600 CELLS IN A PLANE, SO DEPENDS NOW 3292 02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:45,160 WHICH IS THE BRAIN REGION THAT 3293 02:33:45,160 --> 02:33:49,480 IS INTERESTED IN, BUT IS DOABLE. 3294 02:33:49,480 --> 02:33:54,920 BECAUSE OF SMALLER FIELD OF 3295 02:33:54,920 --> 02:33:55,120 VIEW. 3296 02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:57,360 >> SO DR. DANA HAD ANOTHER 3297 02:33:57,360 --> 02:33:59,560 QUESTION HERE. 3298 02:33:59,560 --> 02:34:02,080 ONE OF THE ROOTS THAT DEPTH 3299 02:34:02,080 --> 02:34:04,680 IMAGING WAS IMPROVED FOR TWO 3300 02:34:04,680 --> 02:34:07,680 PHOTON MICROSCOPY WAS THE SWITCH 3301 02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:13,680 TO LONGER, 1300 TO 3302 02:34:13,680 --> 02:34:15,040 1700-NANOMETER WAVELENGTHS, CAN 3303 02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:16,880 SIMILAR BE USED TO INCREASE 3304 02:34:16,880 --> 02:34:17,160 HOLOGRAPHY? 3305 02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:18,480 >> ANOTHER WAY TO GO DEEPER IF 3306 02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:22,120 WE DON'T WANT TO USE THE GREEN 3307 02:34:22,120 --> 02:34:24,640 LENS TO GO TO THIS REQUIRE 3308 02:34:24,640 --> 02:34:28,120 PROBABLY WE'RE INTO THE 3309 02:34:28,120 --> 02:34:30,160 THREE-FOLD GENE SO THERE HAVE 3310 02:34:30,160 --> 02:34:33,600 BEEN VERY FEW YEARS AGO 3311 02:34:33,600 --> 02:34:39,480 PUBLICATION SHOWING FOCAL 3312 02:34:39,480 --> 02:34:40,120 OPTOGENETICS, PRELIMINARY DATA 3313 02:34:40,120 --> 02:34:41,600 IN CULTURED CELLS. 3314 02:34:41,600 --> 02:34:45,040 I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, 3315 02:34:45,040 --> 02:34:48,480 THEY WILL ENABLE TO BEGIN WITH 3316 02:34:48,480 --> 02:34:53,160 RESPECT TO PHOTOMICROSCOPY GO 3317 02:34:53,160 --> 02:34:54,880 DOWN TO 700, 800 MICROMETERS, WE 3318 02:34:54,880 --> 02:34:59,400 WANT TO GO EVEN DEEPER, SOLUTION 3319 02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:01,360 TO USE THE GREEN LENS. 3320 02:35:01,360 --> 02:35:04,440 >> NOW A QUESTION FOR DR. DANA 3321 02:35:04,440 --> 02:35:12,520 FROM DANIEL GLEN. 3322 02:35:12,520 --> 02:35:14,480 HAS CAMPARI BEEN COMPARED TO 3323 02:35:14,480 --> 02:35:15,560 (INDISCERNIBLE). 3324 02:35:15,560 --> 02:35:17,240 >> I WOULD SAY NO, NOT COMPARED. 3325 02:35:17,240 --> 02:35:25,240 >> SECOND QUESTION FOR YOU, IS 3326 02:35:25,240 --> 02:35:26,320 CAMPARI REVERSIBLE? 3327 02:35:26,320 --> 02:35:28,200 AFTER A CELL IS ACTIVE, DOES IT 3328 02:35:28,200 --> 02:35:30,680 GO BACK TO BASELINE AFTER ANIMAL 3329 02:35:30,680 --> 02:35:31,880 LEARNS A NEW BASELINE, IS IT 3330 02:35:31,880 --> 02:35:39,760 POSSIBLE TO PREDICT WHEN A 3331 02:35:39,760 --> 02:35:41,600 NEURON BECOMES ACTIVE AFTER 3332 02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:44,680 IMAGING THEM 2P MICROSCOPE? 3333 02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:46,760 >> CAMPARI, THE CHANGE TO 3334 02:35:46,760 --> 02:35:49,240 INFRARED IS IRREVERSIBLE ON 3335 02:35:49,240 --> 02:35:50,160 PROTEIN LEVELS, BUT PROTEINS DO 3336 02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:51,440 NOT LIVE FOREVER IN THE HUMAN, 3337 02:35:51,440 --> 02:35:53,360 NOT THE HUMAN, IN THE MOUSE 3338 02:35:53,360 --> 02:35:53,600 BODY. 3339 02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:57,880 THERE IS DEGENERATION OR DECLINE 3340 02:35:57,880 --> 02:35:59,280 OF SIGNAL MANUFACTURING NEW 3341 02:35:59,280 --> 02:36:03,680 GREEN PROTEIN SO WE TESTED THAT, 3342 02:36:03,680 --> 02:36:09,320 RUFFLY AFTER SEVEN DAYS 95% IS 3343 02:36:09,320 --> 02:36:17,360 GONE, YOU CAN REUSE CAMPARI. 3344 02:36:17,360 --> 02:36:19,200 FROM OTHER WORK, YOU CAN ERASE 3345 02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:20,960 AND RESTART BUT WE HAVEN'T 3346 02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:23,080 TESTED YET. 3347 02:36:23,080 --> 02:36:23,680 REGARDING THE SECOND QUESTION, 3348 02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:26,800 ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF USING 3349 02:36:26,800 --> 02:36:29,280 CAMPARI, YOU GET A SNAPSHOT OF 3350 02:36:29,280 --> 02:36:29,880 ACTIVITY. 3351 02:36:29,880 --> 02:36:31,080 IT'S INTEGRATION OVER THE ENTIRE 3352 02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:33,440 ACTIVITY DURING THE TIME YOU 3353 02:36:33,440 --> 02:36:33,880 RECORDED. 3354 02:36:33,880 --> 02:36:36,640 SO WE CANNOT SAY EXACTLY WHAT 3355 02:36:36,640 --> 02:36:39,200 WAS THE TIMING OF THE ACTIVITY 3356 02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:43,760 BUT ONLY INTEGRATION OVER THE 3357 02:36:43,760 --> 02:36:48,480 ACTIVITY DURING THAT TIME. 3358 02:36:48,480 --> 02:36:50,040 >> OKAY. 3359 02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:54,640 ANOTHER QUESTION FOR DR. 3360 02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:57,360 GRADINARU, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR 3361 02:36:57,360 --> 02:36:58,440 SPECIFIC CELL TIMES WITH 3362 02:36:58,440 --> 02:36:59,680 SYSTEMIC INJECTION OF THESE 3363 02:36:59,680 --> 02:37:00,280 OPSINS? 3364 02:37:00,280 --> 02:37:03,120 >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 3365 02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:05,760 SO IN MICE, A LOT IS POSSIBLE. 3366 02:37:05,760 --> 02:37:06,640 HOWEVER, DEPENDING ON THE 3367 02:37:06,640 --> 02:37:09,280 APPLICATION MIGHT NOT BE 3368 02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:09,960 DESIRABLE. 3369 02:37:09,960 --> 02:37:11,240 AS PROFESSOR EMILIANI MENTIONED, 3370 02:37:11,240 --> 02:37:14,840 IF YOU'RE GOING FOR DEBRAIN 3371 02:37:14,840 --> 02:37:17,160 AREAS YOU NEED TO IMPLANT 3372 02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:21,680 OPTICAL ELEMENTS CLOSE TO THE 3373 02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:21,880 CELLS. 3374 02:37:21,880 --> 02:37:22,640 BECAUSE DIFFUSION WAS PART 3375 02:37:22,640 --> 02:37:25,240 INJECTION IN THE MOUSE MIGHT 3376 02:37:25,240 --> 02:37:27,960 COVER RELEVANT AREAS MIGHT NOT 3377 02:37:27,960 --> 02:37:29,720 NECESSARILY BE DESIRABLE. 3378 02:37:29,720 --> 02:37:31,000 I'LL MENTION SITUATIONS IT WOULD 3379 02:37:31,000 --> 02:37:32,040 BE DESIRABLE. 3380 02:37:32,040 --> 02:37:34,880 FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU'RE DOING 3381 02:37:34,880 --> 02:37:37,120 LARGE AREA CORTICAL 3382 02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:39,000 STIMULATIONARY RECORDING WITH 3383 02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:40,440 CRANIAL WINDOW, WITH SYSTEMIC 3384 02:37:40,440 --> 02:37:41,640 DELIVERY, WITH PROMOTERS, YOU 3385 02:37:41,640 --> 02:37:45,080 COULD GET GOOD COVERAGE OF CORE 3386 02:37:45,080 --> 02:37:46,640 NEXT AND UNIFORM COVERAGE 3387 02:37:46,640 --> 02:37:47,600 WITHOUT DAMAGING PRECISELY THE 3388 02:37:47,600 --> 02:37:49,120 CELLS YOU WANT TO RECORD FROM 3389 02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:52,400 BECAUSE IF YOU DO SPOT INJECTION 3390 02:37:52,400 --> 02:37:54,680 YOU WILL DAMAGE OR CREATE 3391 02:37:54,680 --> 02:37:57,520 INFLAMMATION AT THE SPOT AREA. 3392 02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:00,800 AND THERE WILL BE HETEROGENEITY 3393 02:38:00,800 --> 02:38:03,080 IN EXPRESSION. 3394 02:38:03,080 --> 02:38:10,280 FOR LARGE CORTICAL AREAS IT'S 3395 02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:14,560 DESIRABLE. 3396 02:38:14,560 --> 02:38:18,360 AS YOU GO TO LARGER BRAINS IT 3397 02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:20,040 STARTS BEING NECESSARY TO 3398 02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:21,240 BROADEN THE COVERAGE AREA, WITH 3399 02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:23,640 SPOT INJECTION IN A MOUSE, AND 3400 02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:25,560 IN A MACAQUE BRAIN, YOU'LL GET 3401 02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:26,600 THE SAME VOLUME. 3402 02:38:26,600 --> 02:38:28,840 THAT MIGHT BE ENOUGH 3403 02:38:28,840 --> 02:38:29,680 PHYSIOLOGICALLY IN A MOUSE BUT 3404 02:38:29,680 --> 02:38:32,160 NOT IN A NON-HUMAN PRIMATE. 3405 02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:34,880 SO THEN HAVING THE OPTION OF 3406 02:38:34,880 --> 02:38:36,080 SYSTEMIC DELIVERY BECOMES MORE 3407 02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:38,360 IMPORTANT AS YOU'RE TRYING TO 3408 02:38:38,360 --> 02:38:43,560 COVER LARGER AND LARGER BRAIN 3409 02:38:43,560 --> 02:38:44,080 AREAS. 3410 02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:47,280 >> THANK YOU. 3411 02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:52,040 ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU FROM 3412 02:38:52,040 --> 02:38:54,760 DAVID ASH BROOK. 3413 02:38:54,760 --> 02:38:56,840 ANY HYPOTHESES ON DIFFERENT 3414 02:38:56,840 --> 02:39:00,680 MOUSE BRAINS, HAS THIS BEEN DONE 3415 02:39:00,680 --> 02:39:01,560 ON DBA/2J? 3416 02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:03,600 INTERESTING TO SEE IF POSSIBLE 3417 02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:07,440 TO MAP A RESPONSIBLE LOCI. 3418 02:39:07,440 --> 02:39:08,360 >> ABSOLUTELY. 3419 02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:12,040 REALLY INTERESTING AS WELL, 3420 02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:14,440 SINCE THEN THIS CAPSID EMERGED 3421 02:39:14,440 --> 02:39:18,960 TO SOMEWHAT BLIND DIRECTED 3422 02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:21,240 EVOLUTION PROCESS, WITHOUT 3423 02:39:21,240 --> 02:39:22,920 MECHANISTIC UNDERSTANDING. 3424 02:39:22,920 --> 02:39:24,280 YOU HAVE THE PEPTIDE PROPERTIES 3425 02:39:24,280 --> 02:39:27,080 AND YOU ALSO HAVE PERFORMANCE IN 3426 02:39:27,080 --> 02:39:30,440 DIFFERENT MOUSE STRAINS, THIS 3427 02:39:30,440 --> 02:39:32,480 WAS ACTUALLY VERY SUCCESSFULLY 3428 02:39:32,480 --> 02:39:34,120 USED BY INDEPENDENT GROUPS, 3429 02:39:34,120 --> 02:39:39,440 THREE PAPERS REPORTED IT WORKS, 3430 02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:41,080 PRESENT IN 57 BUT NOT OTHER 3431 02:39:41,080 --> 02:39:43,800 MOUSE STRAINS, ALSO NOT PRESENT 3432 02:39:43,800 --> 02:39:47,040 IN NON-HUMAN PRIMATE, FOR 3433 02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:47,280 EXAMPLE. 3434 02:39:47,280 --> 02:39:52,200 FOR DPA, ONE OF THE PAPERS I 3435 02:39:52,200 --> 02:39:53,840 MENTIONED, NATURE PROTOCOLS, 3436 02:39:53,840 --> 02:39:55,680 NATURE METHODS, WE HAVE VECTORS 3437 02:39:55,680 --> 02:39:57,960 THAT WORK IN DBA STRAIN AS WELL 3438 02:39:57,960 --> 02:40:01,360 BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT 3439 02:40:01,360 --> 02:40:03,520 CROSSING AND EXPERIMENTAL MICE 3440 02:40:03,520 --> 02:40:07,680 IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. 3441 02:40:07,680 --> 02:40:13,280 NOW FOR RODENTS WE HAVE 3442 02:40:13,280 --> 02:40:14,400 COMBINATIONS COVERED, COLLECTING 3443 02:40:14,400 --> 02:40:15,080 INFORMATION SO RESEARCHERS KNOW 3444 02:40:15,080 --> 02:40:16,480 IF THEY WANT TO USE THIS IN A 3445 02:40:16,480 --> 02:40:18,280 PARTICULAR MOUSE STRAIN THEY CAN 3446 02:40:18,280 --> 02:40:20,880 SEE WAS IT DONE BEFORE, WOULD IT 3447 02:40:20,880 --> 02:40:24,560 WORK, WOULD IT NOT. 3448 02:40:24,560 --> 02:40:26,960 >> THANK YOU. 3449 02:40:26,960 --> 02:40:29,120 NOW DR. EMILIANI HAS A QUESTION. 3450 02:40:29,120 --> 02:40:34,280 IS CAMPARI SENSITIVE TO A SINGLE 3451 02:40:34,280 --> 02:40:36,880 SPIKE? IF NOT HOW MANY NEED TO 3452 02:40:36,880 --> 02:40:40,520 BE PRODUCED TO BE DETECTED? 3453 02:40:40,520 --> 02:40:42,160 >> THE ANSWER IS CAMPARI AS 3454 02:40:42,160 --> 02:40:44,000 DEVELOPED IS NOT SENSITIVE TO 3455 02:40:44,000 --> 02:40:44,680 SINGLE SPIKES. 3456 02:40:44,680 --> 02:40:47,600 ACTUALLY WE HAVE A PROJECT NOW 3457 02:40:47,600 --> 02:40:50,960 TO DEVELOP NEXT GENERATION WITH 3458 02:40:50,960 --> 02:40:52,000 IMPROVED SENSITIVITY. 3459 02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:55,120 AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE 3460 02:40:55,120 --> 02:40:57,720 PRECISE NUMBERS. 3461 02:40:57,720 --> 02:40:59,840 NOW, REGARDING HOW MANY SPIKES 3462 02:40:59,840 --> 02:41:04,400 ARE NEEDED, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON 3463 02:41:04,400 --> 02:41:07,480 THE TISSUE QUALITY. 3464 02:41:07,480 --> 02:41:09,680 I WOULD ASSUME IN A GOOD 3465 02:41:09,680 --> 02:41:14,600 EXPERIMENT WE CAN PROBABLY 3466 02:41:14,600 --> 02:41:17,080 DETECT AROUND OVERALL ACTIVITY 3467 02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:19,160 OF TEN ACTION POTENTIALS IN THE 3468 02:41:19,160 --> 02:41:23,080 RECORDING BUT THIS IS A ROUGH 3469 02:41:23,080 --> 02:41:23,960 ESTIMATION. 3470 02:41:23,960 --> 02:41:24,240 >> OKAY. 3471 02:41:24,240 --> 02:41:26,280 I THINK WE HAVE COVERED THE 3472 02:41:26,280 --> 02:41:29,280 QUESTIONS CURRENTLY IN THE CHAT. 3473 02:41:29,280 --> 02:41:32,360 WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME. 3474 02:41:32,360 --> 02:41:34,560 WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A FIVE-MINUTE 3475 02:41:34,560 --> 02:41:43,560 EXTENSION, BUT WE HAVE TO END AT 3476 02:41:43,560 --> 02:41:45,080 2:55, YOUR TIME. 3477 02:41:45,080 --> 02:41:47,360 WE DO HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO GO 3478 02:41:47,360 --> 02:41:47,880 NOW. 3479 02:41:47,880 --> 02:41:49,080 PERHAPS I SHOULD FIRST ASK IF 3480 02:41:49,080 --> 02:41:51,000 THERE'S ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO 3481 02:41:51,000 --> 02:41:53,000 ASK A QUESTION NOW IN THIS 3482 02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:54,960 DISCUSSION WHO IS HERE IN THE 3483 02:41:54,960 --> 02:41:56,040 GROUP AT THIS POINT WHO HASN'T 3484 02:41:56,040 --> 02:41:59,760 PUT ANYTHING IN THE CHAT? 3485 02:41:59,760 --> 02:42:01,480 3486 02:42:01,480 --> 02:42:02,720 >> I HAVE A QUESTION. 3487 02:42:02,720 --> 02:42:05,080 YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR TALK AT 3488 02:42:05,080 --> 02:42:09,440 THE BEGINNING THAT THE 3489 02:42:09,440 --> 02:42:10,720 THERAPEUTIC RISE FOR TECHNOLOGY, 3490 02:42:10,720 --> 02:42:16,960 WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS, WHAT IS 3491 02:42:16,960 --> 02:42:20,040 THE LIMITATION FROM MARMOSETS TO 3492 02:42:20,040 --> 02:42:23,840 HUMAN? 3493 02:42:23,840 --> 02:42:24,080 3494 02:42:24,080 --> 02:42:26,240 >> MAYBE THE BIGGEST LIMITATION 3495 02:42:26,240 --> 02:42:29,400 IS SIXTY, AND I HAVE TO MENTION 3496 02:42:29,400 --> 02:42:31,280 HIGH DOSE SYSTEMIC DELIVERY 3497 02:42:31,280 --> 02:42:34,120 CAUSED SEVERELY UNWANTED SIDE 3498 02:42:34,120 --> 02:42:35,680 EFFECTS INCLUDING DEATH IN THE 3499 02:42:35,680 --> 02:42:36,680 RECENT YEARS. 3500 02:42:36,680 --> 02:42:41,360 AND THIS POINTS TO THE FACT THAT 3501 02:42:41,360 --> 02:42:44,080 THE TARGETING IS EQUALLY 3502 02:42:44,080 --> 02:42:46,080 IMPORTANT AND WORTHWHILE GOAL 3503 02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:48,280 TARGETING THE ORGAN OF INTEREST. 3504 02:42:48,280 --> 02:42:49,520 SO MANY COMPLICATIONS FROM 3505 02:42:49,520 --> 02:42:53,080 SYSTEMIC DELIVERY OF CHEMICALS 3506 02:42:53,080 --> 02:42:55,280 OR BIOLOGICALS COMPOUND LIVER 3507 02:42:55,280 --> 02:42:56,400 EFFECTS, SO DETARGETTING FROM 3508 02:42:56,400 --> 02:42:58,680 THE LIVER IS A VERY IMPORTANT 3509 02:42:58,680 --> 02:43:00,760 STEP TOWARDS SAFETY. 3510 02:43:00,760 --> 02:43:02,960 NOW, IF WE THINK ABOUT EFFICACY, 3511 02:43:02,960 --> 02:43:05,880 WE THINK ABOUT BRAIN AREAS, 3512 02:43:05,880 --> 02:43:09,080 HETEROGENEITY OF CELL TYPES IN 3513 02:43:09,080 --> 02:43:10,600 THE BRAIN PHENOMENON IS 3514 02:43:10,600 --> 02:43:12,000 INTERESTING FOR SCIENTISTS BUT 3515 02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:15,080 ALSO VERY CHALLENGING IF YOU PUT 3516 02:43:15,080 --> 02:43:17,880 IN DISEASE CONTEXT, SO BEING 3517 02:43:17,880 --> 02:43:19,560 VERY SPECIFIC ON NEURONAL 3518 02:43:19,560 --> 02:43:22,240 SUBTYPES, THINKING ABOUT 3519 02:43:22,240 --> 02:43:25,360 EPILEPSY MAKES A DIFFERENCE WITH 3520 02:43:25,360 --> 02:43:27,120 NEURONS ARE EXCITATORY OR 3521 02:43:27,120 --> 02:43:29,960 INHIBITORS CLASSES. 3522 02:43:29,960 --> 02:43:32,600 SPECIFICITY IS A VERY IMPORTANT 3523 02:43:32,600 --> 02:43:33,280 CONSIDERATION. 3524 02:43:33,280 --> 02:43:36,080 AND SAFETY HAND IN HAND. 3525 02:43:36,080 --> 02:43:39,680 NOW, WE SEE BECAUSE VECTORS ARE 3526 02:43:39,680 --> 02:43:41,760 USED, I DON'T WANT TO DISTRACT 3527 02:43:41,760 --> 02:43:44,800 FROM THE FACT THAT AAVs ARE A 3528 02:43:44,800 --> 02:43:47,360 THERAPY BUT ARE IMPROVING LIVES, 3529 02:43:47,360 --> 02:43:50,480 EXTENDING LIFESPANS OF PATIENTS 3530 02:43:50,480 --> 02:43:56,840 THAT HAVE VARIOUS DISORDERS, AND 3531 02:43:56,840 --> 02:44:00,280 IT'S AN EXTREMELY POTENT 3532 02:44:00,280 --> 02:44:01,480 CAPABILITY THAT WE CANNOT NOT 3533 02:44:01,480 --> 02:44:04,480 MEET THE CHALLENGE OF THE DAY. 3534 02:44:04,480 --> 02:44:08,200 AND THEY ARE BEING USED AND I 3535 02:44:08,200 --> 02:44:09,280 THINK BY FURTHER DEVELOPING AND 3536 02:44:09,280 --> 02:44:12,320 REFINING THEM WE COULD START TO 3537 02:44:12,320 --> 02:44:14,200 ADDRESS SYSTEMATICALLY FIRST 3538 02:44:14,200 --> 02:44:15,720 MONO GENETIC DIS ORDERS, LATER 3539 02:44:15,720 --> 02:44:21,000 ON COMPLEX DISORDERS AS WELL. 3540 02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:33,880 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR 3541 02:44:33,880 --> 02:44:35,120 COMMENTS? 3542 02:44:35,120 --> 02:44:36,640 >> WITH VIRAL VECTORS YOU KNOW 3543 02:44:36,640 --> 02:44:38,480 WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO AND 3544 02:44:38,480 --> 02:44:40,120 CAN TELL IT TO GET THERE BUT HOW 3545 02:44:40,120 --> 02:44:43,080 DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S HAVING THE 3546 02:44:43,080 --> 02:44:44,680 FUNCTION YOU ANTICIPATE WHENS 3547 02:44:44,680 --> 02:44:46,520 YOU TRANSLATE TO HUMAN SUBJECTS, 3548 02:44:46,520 --> 02:44:50,680 WHAT TYPES OF MONITORING ARE 3549 02:44:50,680 --> 02:44:53,040 PEOPLE SPEAKING OF TO SEE IF 3550 02:44:53,040 --> 02:44:53,680 ACTION IS EXPECTED? 3551 02:44:53,680 --> 02:44:55,080 >> IN THE MOUSE WE HAVE BENEFIT 3552 02:44:55,080 --> 02:44:59,040 OF LOOKING AT THE TISSUE, RIGHT? 3553 02:44:59,040 --> 02:45:01,680 AND WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT IN THE 3554 02:45:01,680 --> 02:45:02,960 HUMANS. 3555 02:45:02,960 --> 02:45:05,800 THE ENTIRE FIELD OF BIOMARKERS 3556 02:45:05,800 --> 02:45:09,360 BECOMES EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND 3557 02:45:09,360 --> 02:45:11,800 I SHOWED QUICKLY ONE SLIDE ON 3558 02:45:11,800 --> 02:45:14,080 PET MARKERS, YOU CAN HAVE PET 3559 02:45:14,080 --> 02:45:20,680 REPORTERS FOR THE CAPSID, ALSO 3560 02:45:20,680 --> 02:45:23,680 FOR CARGO, AND HAVE BEEN WORKING 3561 02:45:23,680 --> 02:45:27,000 OVER YEARS TO LABEL CERTAIN 3562 02:45:27,000 --> 02:45:29,840 VECTORS OR CARGO ELEMENTS FOR 3563 02:45:29,840 --> 02:45:30,760 NON-INVASIVE IMAGING. 3564 02:45:30,760 --> 02:45:32,040 NOW RESOLUTION IS NOT AS HIGH, 3565 02:45:32,040 --> 02:45:36,520 OF COURSE, AS WE WOULD HAVE WITH 3566 02:45:36,520 --> 02:45:36,880 HISTOLOGY. 3567 02:45:36,880 --> 02:45:39,360 BUT IT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT 3568 02:45:39,360 --> 02:45:40,000 FOR US. 3569 02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:41,760 PET IMAGING WITH INCREASINGLY 3570 02:45:41,760 --> 02:45:45,240 SPECIFIC LABELS AND MAYBE EVEN 3571 02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:46,800 MULTIPLEX LABELS, DIFFERENT 3572 02:45:46,800 --> 02:45:47,680 MARKERS CAN BE IMAGED AT THE 3573 02:45:47,680 --> 02:45:50,480 SAME TIME IN THE SAME ANIMAL. 3574 02:45:50,480 --> 02:45:52,480 AND THEN IT'S WORTH NOTING AT 3575 02:45:52,480 --> 02:45:54,840 LEAST FOR MANY OF THE STARTING 3576 02:45:54,840 --> 02:45:57,440 DISORDERS, MANY OF THEM FALL IN 3577 02:45:57,440 --> 02:46:03,040 THE CLASS OF LYSOSOMAL STORAGE 3578 02:46:03,040 --> 02:46:03,280 DISORDERS 3579 02:46:03,280 --> 02:46:09,680 SO IF YOU INTRODUCE A CARGO THAT 3580 02:46:09,680 --> 02:46:11,120 SECRETES ELEMENT MEASURED IN 3581 02:46:11,120 --> 02:46:16,080 THE BLOODSTREAM OR CSF MAYBE YOU 3582 02:46:16,080 --> 02:46:17,200 CAN GET REALTIME INDICATION HOW 3583 02:46:17,200 --> 02:46:20,480 THE THERAPY IS DOING. 3584 02:46:20,480 --> 02:46:21,880 THIS BEING SAID IT'S REALLY 3585 02:46:21,880 --> 02:46:26,920 IMPORTANT VECTORS HAVE A STOP 3586 02:46:26,920 --> 02:46:29,680 LINE, IF THINGS GO OVERBOARD AND 3587 02:46:29,680 --> 02:46:31,000 WRONG THERE'S A POINT, WE 3588 02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:34,720 SHOULDN'T TAKE LIGHTLY THIS IS 3589 02:46:34,720 --> 02:46:36,400 NOT A SMALL MOLECULE THAT WILL 3590 02:46:36,400 --> 02:46:37,440 GET CLEARED. 3591 02:46:37,440 --> 02:46:38,880 IT'S SOMETHING THAT STAYS. 3592 02:46:38,880 --> 02:46:41,320 THAT'S ITS POWER AND ITS DANGER 3593 02:46:41,320 --> 02:46:42,400 AS WELL. 3594 02:46:42,400 --> 02:46:42,920 >> THANK YOU. 3595 02:46:42,920 --> 02:46:46,680 >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 3596 02:46:46,680 --> 02:46:49,440 >> WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION 3597 02:46:49,440 --> 02:46:51,760 COMING FROM AMANDA I THINK. 3598 02:46:51,760 --> 02:46:53,080 IT'S FOR THE WHOLE GROUP. 3599 02:46:53,080 --> 02:46:55,280 ARE THERE STRATEGIES YOU WOULD 3600 02:46:55,280 --> 02:46:57,040 RECOMMEND FOR INTEGRATING DATA 3601 02:46:57,040 --> 02:46:59,960 COLLECTED FROM DIFFERENT LIFE 3602 02:46:59,960 --> 02:47:01,000 STAGES? 3603 02:47:01,000 --> 02:47:02,720 FOR EXAMPLE PERINATAL VERSUS 3604 02:47:02,720 --> 02:47:04,480 AGED TIME POINTS? 3605 02:47:04,480 --> 02:47:05,240 GIVEN METHODOLOGIES ARE OFTEN 3606 02:47:05,240 --> 02:47:05,480 DIFFERENT. 3607 02:47:05,480 --> 02:47:07,280 I THINK THIS IS A GENERAL 3608 02:47:07,280 --> 02:47:09,160 QUESTION, IT WOULD BE NICE TO 3609 02:47:09,160 --> 02:47:14,720 HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHICH I 3610 02:47:14,720 --> 02:47:16,920 WOULD STATE, TO EXTEND SCOPE OF 3611 02:47:16,920 --> 02:47:18,680 THIS A LITTLE BIT, CONNECTING 3612 02:47:18,680 --> 02:47:21,280 THE DOTS ACROSS THE PARADIGMS AT 3613 02:47:21,280 --> 02:47:24,800 A GIVEN TIME IN THE AGE LIFESPAN 3614 02:47:24,800 --> 02:47:29,680 BUT ALSO TAKING THOSE SETS OF 3615 02:47:29,680 --> 02:47:31,280 CONNECTED DOTS AT A PARTICULAR 3616 02:47:31,280 --> 02:47:32,880 POINT IN THE LIFESPAN AND 3617 02:47:32,880 --> 02:47:38,680 EXTENDING THROUGHOUT THE 3618 02:47:38,680 --> 02:47:47,240 LIFESPAN, WHAT STRATEGIES COULD 3619 02:47:47,240 --> 02:47:51,320 BE INTEGRATED YOU COULD IMAGINE 3620 02:47:51,320 --> 02:47:53,000 ACHIEVING AS A SCIENTIFIC 3621 02:47:53,000 --> 02:47:54,040 COMMUNITY, IN PARTICULARLY HOW 3622 02:47:54,040 --> 02:47:55,840 YOUR LAB COULD CONTRIBUTE. 3623 02:47:55,840 --> 02:47:59,280 >> I'LL JUMP START THAT 3624 02:47:59,280 --> 02:47:59,560 DISCUSSION. 3625 02:47:59,560 --> 02:48:01,240 I APPRECIATE THIS QUESTION. 3626 02:48:01,240 --> 02:48:05,240 I THINK PART OF WHAT TERRY WAS 3627 02:48:05,240 --> 02:48:06,480 TALKING ABOUT IS ACROSS 3628 02:48:06,480 --> 02:48:08,480 DIFFERENT SCALES, SO DIFFERENT 3629 02:48:08,480 --> 02:48:10,200 LEVELS OF ORGANIZATION. 3630 02:48:10,200 --> 02:48:12,480 I THINK IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING 3631 02:48:12,480 --> 02:48:13,040 TASK. 3632 02:48:13,040 --> 02:48:16,000 AND THE KEY IS REALLY FINDING 3633 02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:18,960 THE RELEVANT QUESTIONS THAT HAVE 3634 02:48:18,960 --> 02:48:20,680 CONTINUUM WITHIN THIS. 3635 02:48:20,680 --> 02:48:25,080 AND RELEVANT VARIABLES THAT CAN 3636 02:48:25,080 --> 02:48:26,160 BE STRETCHED ACROSS. 3637 02:48:26,160 --> 02:48:27,880 YESTERDAY WE TALKED ABOUT SEX, 3638 02:48:27,880 --> 02:48:29,200 SOMETHING WE CAN STRETCH ACROSS 3639 02:48:29,200 --> 02:48:31,720 AND SEE HOW THAT MODERATES 3640 02:48:31,720 --> 02:48:34,280 ACROSS LEVELS, A FIXED VARIABLE. 3641 02:48:34,280 --> 02:48:39,920 IN THE WORK THAT I'VE BEEN 3642 02:48:39,920 --> 02:48:44,040 DOING, I LIMITED THE DATA I 3643 02:48:44,040 --> 02:48:45,720 COLLECTED, COLLECTED WITH AGES 3644 02:48:45,720 --> 02:48:46,440 CONTINUOUS VARIABLE, PRECISELY 3645 02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:49,200 SO I WILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF DO 3646 02:48:49,200 --> 02:48:52,160 MORE OF AN INTEGRATION ACROSS 3647 02:48:52,160 --> 02:48:55,760 LIFESPAN, AND HARMONIZING WITH 3648 02:48:55,760 --> 02:48:58,360 OTHER PEOPLE, COLLEAGUES I WORK 3649 02:48:58,360 --> 02:49:00,120 WITH WITH SIMILAR THINGS ALONG 3650 02:49:00,120 --> 02:49:02,520 THE AGING, ALONG THE ADULT 3651 02:49:02,520 --> 02:49:06,680 LIFESPAN, SO WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE 3652 02:49:06,680 --> 02:49:09,320 LOOKING AT VOLUME, FROM AGE 8 TO 3653 02:49:09,320 --> 02:49:11,200 82, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH USING 3654 02:49:11,200 --> 02:49:15,000 SIMILAR METHODS SO WE ALLOW TO 3655 02:49:15,000 --> 02:49:16,960 STITCH TOGETHER THOSE DATA, EVEN 3656 02:49:16,960 --> 02:49:21,280 THOUGH THEY ARE NOT DONE WITHIN 3657 02:49:21,280 --> 02:49:21,880 THE SAME LAB. 3658 02:49:21,880 --> 02:49:23,080 I THINK THIS IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE 3659 02:49:23,080 --> 02:49:25,960 WE HAVE THE SAME QUESTION, 3660 02:49:25,960 --> 02:49:28,160 WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT HIPPOCAMPAL 3661 02:49:28,160 --> 02:49:29,600 VOLUME ACROSS THE LIFESPAN, THAT 3662 02:49:29,600 --> 02:49:32,080 MEASURE ALLOWED US TO STITCH 3663 02:49:32,080 --> 02:49:32,880 TOGETHER DATA COLLECTED ACROSS 3664 02:49:32,880 --> 02:49:33,640 DIFFERENT LABS. 3665 02:49:33,640 --> 02:49:35,840 IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS RELEVANT 3666 02:49:35,840 --> 02:49:38,440 ACROSS THIS LIFESPAN WE CAN DO 3667 02:49:38,440 --> 02:49:39,120 THAT. 3668 02:49:39,120 --> 02:49:47,720 THE QUESTION ABOUT COGNITION, WE 3669 02:49:47,720 --> 02:49:50,480 HAVE MAYBE THOSE, WE CAN STITCH 3670 02:49:50,480 --> 02:49:52,000 THOSE TOGETHER BY LOOKING AT 3671 02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:55,160 WHAT MIGHT BE THE PRECURSORS OF 3672 02:49:55,160 --> 02:49:57,680 LATE COGNITIVE ABILITIES ONCE WE 3673 02:49:57,680 --> 02:50:00,640 GET TO CERTAIN LEVEL OF 3674 02:50:00,640 --> 02:50:03,720 COGNITIVE ABILITIES CAN BUILD A 3675 02:50:03,720 --> 02:50:05,760 TASK THAT WORKS ACROSS THE 3676 02:50:05,760 --> 02:50:06,680 LIFESPAN. 3677 02:50:06,680 --> 02:50:07,840 YOU DON'T NEED TOO MUCH COMPLEX 3678 02:50:07,840 --> 02:50:11,480 KNOWLEDGE TO SEE AND TRY TO 3679 02:50:11,480 --> 02:50:16,040 REMEMBER THE SCENE, SOME 3680 02:50:16,040 --> 02:50:17,080 THOUGHTS I HAVE. 3681 02:50:17,080 --> 02:50:19,840 >> I'LL ADD IT'S IMPORTANT TO 3682 02:50:19,840 --> 02:50:24,160 HAVE MULTIPLE MODALITIES WITH 3683 02:50:24,160 --> 02:50:27,960 WHICH TO GATHER INFORMATION, AND 3684 02:50:27,960 --> 02:50:28,960 TO CREATE THEORETICAL 3685 02:50:28,960 --> 02:50:29,920 CONSTRUCTS, MAYBE NOT COMPARING 3686 02:50:29,920 --> 02:50:32,320 THE SAME ENERGY AT EACH AGE 3687 02:50:32,320 --> 02:50:33,440 GROUP, DIFFERENT MODALITY OR 3688 02:50:33,440 --> 02:50:35,440 STRATEGY, BUT THEY ARE 3689 02:50:35,440 --> 02:50:37,040 CONTRIBUTING TO A THEORY THAT 3690 02:50:37,040 --> 02:50:38,040 CONNECTS ALL AGES. 3691 02:50:38,040 --> 02:50:39,760 WHAT I USED IN, SAY, NEURAL 3692 02:50:39,760 --> 02:50:41,200 ACTIVITY IN A FETUS MAY BE 3693 02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:43,520 DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE USED WITH 3694 02:50:43,520 --> 02:50:45,200 NEURAL ACTIVITY IN AN 3695 02:50:45,200 --> 02:50:49,080 80-YEAR-OLD BUT THE THEORIES OF 3696 02:50:49,080 --> 02:50:50,600 SYNAPTIC DEVELOPMENT OR 3697 02:50:50,600 --> 02:50:53,440 DEGENERATION GO TO THE FIELDS 3698 02:50:53,440 --> 02:51:00,880 AND COME AT IT FROM DIFFERENT 3699 02:51:00,880 --> 02:51:02,000 DIRECTION, DEPENDING WHETHER 3700 02:51:02,000 --> 02:51:05,400 IT'S HUMAN OR ANIMAL. 3701 02:51:05,400 --> 02:51:07,760 >> ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WANT TO 3702 02:51:07,760 --> 02:51:11,240 TALK ABOUT HOW THEY SEE US 3703 02:51:11,240 --> 02:51:11,800 CONNECTING THE DOTS? 3704 02:51:11,800 --> 02:51:14,400 EITHER AT A GIVEN TIME POINT 3705 02:51:14,400 --> 02:51:16,480 AMONG DIFFERENT LEVELS OF 3706 02:51:16,480 --> 02:51:18,120 ANALYSIS OR ACROSS THE LIFESPAN? 3707 02:51:18,120 --> 02:51:19,680 I KNOW YOU'RE ALL CONTRIBUTING 3708 02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:22,160 TO THAT SO I DON'T WANT TO -- I 3709 02:51:22,160 --> 02:51:24,120 GET IT FROM ALL YOUR 3710 02:51:24,120 --> 02:51:24,880 PRESENTATIONS EVERYONE IS 3711 02:51:24,880 --> 02:51:26,560 CONTRIBUTING BUT IF YOU CAN 3712 02:51:26,560 --> 02:51:30,120 THINK OF WAYS YOU COULD 3713 02:51:30,120 --> 02:51:34,760 CONTRIBUTE MORE, MOVE FARTHER IN 3714 02:51:34,760 --> 02:51:36,840 DEVELOPING THE EXTREMELY LARGE 3715 02:51:36,840 --> 02:51:40,000 SPACE OF OBSERVATIONS ACROSS THE 3716 02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:42,200 LIFESPAN, GOING DEEPLY INTO 3717 02:51:42,200 --> 02:51:43,080 MECHANISMS AT EACH POINT ACROSS 3718 02:51:43,080 --> 02:51:45,480 THE LIFESPAN THAT CAN ONLY BE 3719 02:51:45,480 --> 02:51:46,680 DONE COLLABORATIVELY BY THE 3720 02:51:46,680 --> 02:51:48,080 SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY. 3721 02:51:48,080 --> 02:51:50,560 HOW YOU THINK YOU COULD -- WE 3722 02:51:50,560 --> 02:51:54,160 COULD MOVE FORWARD IN CREATING 3723 02:51:54,160 --> 02:51:56,880 THAT SHARED VERY IMPORTANT 3724 02:51:56,880 --> 02:51:58,440 DATASET, YOU KNOW, TO EXPLORE 3725 02:51:58,440 --> 02:52:00,160 MORE DEEPLY WHAT'S GOING ON 3726 02:52:00,160 --> 02:52:00,480 HERE. 3727 02:52:00,480 --> 02:52:04,040 >> I WANT TO SECOND WHAT ELLEN 3728 02:52:04,040 --> 02:52:06,440 HAS SAID. 3729 02:52:06,440 --> 02:52:09,280 CONCEPTUALLY WE COULD CONNECT 3730 02:52:09,280 --> 02:52:10,040 ACROSS DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES 3731 02:52:10,040 --> 02:52:12,640 AND AGES AND SPECIES BUT IT 3732 02:52:12,640 --> 02:52:18,760 WOULD BE RELATIVELY HARD TO 3733 02:52:18,760 --> 02:52:21,200 CONNECT ACROSS DIFFERENT 3734 02:52:21,200 --> 02:52:23,800 METHODOLOGIES LIKE fMRI TO 3735 02:52:23,800 --> 02:52:24,360 PHYSIOLOGY, DIFFERENT 3736 02:52:24,360 --> 02:52:27,880 RESOLUTIONS AT DIFFERENT TIME 3737 02:52:27,880 --> 02:52:30,360 AND SPACE BUT CONCEPTUAL ONE 3738 02:52:30,360 --> 02:52:32,920 METHOD MAYBE CAN BE EXPLORED 3739 02:52:32,920 --> 02:52:35,400 WITH THE OTHER METHOD IF IT'S 3740 02:52:35,400 --> 02:52:38,400 FOUND IN ONE -- IN RODENTS, CAN 3741 02:52:38,400 --> 02:52:40,960 BE EXPLORED IN THE HUMAN. 3742 02:52:40,960 --> 02:52:45,760 THOSE KIND OF CONCEPTS I THINK. 3743 02:52:45,760 --> 02:52:48,240 SOME MAY WORK, SOME MAY NOT BE 3744 02:52:48,240 --> 02:52:50,240 AS GENERAL. 3745 02:52:50,240 --> 02:52:58,040 BUT IT'S NOT A DIRECT LINK 3746 02:52:58,040 --> 02:53:00,080 BETWEEN DIFFERENT, YEAH, 3747 02:53:00,080 --> 02:53:00,320 DESIGNS. 3748 02:53:00,320 --> 02:53:02,280 >> SINCE YOU RESPONDED, LET ME 3749 02:53:02,280 --> 02:53:05,040 ASK YOU A QUESTION. 3750 02:53:05,040 --> 02:53:07,760 FASCINATED BY THIS P 23 3751 02:53:07,760 --> 02:53:12,680 PHENOMENON THAT YOU SHOWED, 3752 02:53:12,680 --> 02:53:15,280 WHERE YOU SEE FIRST TIME RUN, 3753 02:53:15,280 --> 02:53:16,720 PLASTICITY APPEARS, IF I GET 3754 02:53:16,720 --> 02:53:19,480 THAT RIGHT. 3755 02:53:19,480 --> 02:53:24,280 I'M WONDERING WHAT ARE YOUR 3756 02:53:24,280 --> 02:53:25,880 FAVORITE EXPLANATIONS, CELLULAR 3757 02:53:25,880 --> 02:53:30,080 OR SIGNALING LEVEL, THAT MAY 3758 02:53:30,080 --> 02:53:30,800 UNDERLIE THIS VERY INTERESTING 3759 02:53:30,800 --> 02:53:34,000 TRANSITION, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE 3760 02:53:34,000 --> 02:53:36,720 THE NEURAL OR SORT OF SIGNALING 3761 02:53:36,720 --> 02:53:38,520 MECHANISMS THAT YOU THINK MIGHT 3762 02:53:38,520 --> 02:53:39,960 BE INTERESTING, ARE SOME 3763 02:53:39,960 --> 02:53:42,200 TECHNIQUES WE HEARD AFTER YOURS 3764 02:53:42,200 --> 02:53:44,840 THAT COULD BE USED TO BETTER 3765 02:53:44,840 --> 02:53:46,120 INTERROGATE THAT QUESTION. 3766 02:53:46,120 --> 02:53:48,840 YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER 3767 02:53:48,840 --> 02:53:53,680 BUT I'M JUST INTRIGUED BY WHAT 3768 02:53:53,680 --> 02:53:56,840 IS TRIGGERING THAT SHIFT. 3769 02:53:56,840 --> 02:54:00,880 >> SO, THE NUMBER OF RECEPTORS 3770 02:54:00,880 --> 02:54:03,080 AND MOLECULES SOMEHOW 3771 02:54:03,080 --> 02:54:05,800 ACTIVITYING FROM IMMATURE FORM 3772 02:54:05,800 --> 02:54:09,880 TO ADULT -- SHIFTING FROM 3773 02:54:09,880 --> 02:54:13,480 IMMATURE TO ADULT FORM, THERE'S 3774 02:54:13,480 --> 02:54:14,680 UPREGULATION, DOWNREGULATION. 3775 02:54:14,680 --> 02:54:16,840 SO WE'RE FOLLOWING ON THAT TRACK 3776 02:54:16,840 --> 02:54:26,280 A LITTLE BIT TO SEE IF WE ADD 3777 02:54:26,280 --> 02:54:27,800 SOME THAT CAN ACCELERATE 3778 02:54:27,800 --> 02:54:28,880 TRANSITION FROM ONE RECEPTOR 3779 02:54:28,880 --> 02:54:31,840 TYPE TO ANOTHER COULD IN 3780 02:54:31,840 --> 02:54:36,240 PARALLEL SEE ACCELERATION OF 3781 02:54:36,240 --> 02:54:38,080 THIS ACROSS STAGES. 3782 02:54:38,080 --> 02:54:39,680 AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER 3783 02:54:39,680 --> 02:54:42,240 TYPE OF CONNECTIVITY ACROSS LABS 3784 02:54:42,240 --> 02:54:47,880 WHERE MOLECULAR BIOLOGY NEEDS TO 3785 02:54:47,880 --> 02:54:49,800 BE COMBINED WITH COMPLEMENT 3786 02:54:49,800 --> 02:54:50,160 PHYSIOLOGY ONES. 3787 02:54:50,160 --> 02:55:00,560 BUT USING THE SAME SPECIES, SAME 3788 02:55:00,560 --> 02:55:00,760 BASIS. 3789 02:55:00,760 --> 02:55:02,440 >> FOCUSING ON ONE DEVELOPMENTAL 3790 02:55:02,440 --> 02:55:03,880 PHENOMENON IN THIS CASE, COULD 3791 02:55:03,880 --> 02:55:10,240 BE A UNIFYING THEME TO THAT. 3792 02:55:10,240 --> 02:55:15,200 ALL RIGHT. 3793 02:55:15,200 --> 02:55:15,400 OKAY. 3794 02:55:15,400 --> 02:55:15,920 I THINK -- 3795 02:55:15,920 --> 02:55:18,280 >> TO FOLLOW -- WE'RE OUT OF 3796 02:55:18,280 --> 02:55:18,520 TIME? 3797 02:55:18,520 --> 02:55:24,440 IN THE MEASURES YOU HAVE, WHICH 3798 02:55:24,440 --> 02:55:28,000 SEEMS LIKE ALSO MAY HAVE GOT 3799 02:55:28,000 --> 02:55:29,560 CLOSER TOGETHER, SO THAT MIGHT 3800 02:55:29,560 --> 02:55:31,520 BE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN KIND OF 3801 02:55:31,520 --> 02:55:33,480 LINK, YOU AND I CAN START 3802 02:55:33,480 --> 02:55:37,800 THINKING WHAT MIGHT IT MEAN THAT 3803 02:55:37,800 --> 02:55:39,720 WE GET LIKE SLOW, FASTER, IN THE 3804 02:55:39,720 --> 02:55:42,800 MEASURES WE HAVE ACROSS AN OLDER 3805 02:55:42,800 --> 02:55:44,720 ADULT BRAIN. 3806 02:55:44,720 --> 02:55:48,680 SO THIS IS AGAIN -- . 3807 02:55:48,680 --> 02:55:50,560 >> DATA FREQUENCY GOT FASTER BUT 3808 02:55:50,560 --> 02:55:57,920 NOT BY A LOT. 3809 02:55:57,920 --> 02:55:59,640 >> OKAY. 3810 02:55:59,640 --> 02:56:03,040 I THINK OUR TIME HAS ELAPSED, IF 3811 02:56:03,040 --> 02:56:05,680 WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE GROUP A 3812 02:56:05,680 --> 02:56:08,400 BREAK. 3813 02:56:08,400 --> 02:56:14,920 >> WELCOME BACK. 3814 02:56:14,920 --> 02:56:18,880 I'M A PROGRAM OFFICER AT THE 3815 02:56:18,880 --> 02:56:19,760 BILL AND MELINDA GATES 3816 02:56:19,760 --> 02:56:20,040 FOUNDATION. 3817 02:56:20,040 --> 02:56:22,600 THIS IS OUR LAST SESSION. 3818 02:56:22,600 --> 02:56:23,360 SINCE YESTERDAY, MID-AFTERNOON, 3819 02:56:23,360 --> 02:56:27,240 WE'VE BEEN ON THIS PATH OF 3820 02:56:27,240 --> 02:56:32,520 RELENTLESS PATH OF ACHIEVING 3821 02:56:32,520 --> 02:56:35,360 HIGHER LEVELS OF SCALE. 3822 02:56:35,360 --> 02:56:39,040 FROM CIRCUITS, TO CELLULAR 3823 02:56:39,040 --> 02:56:39,440 REPORTING. 3824 02:56:39,440 --> 02:56:41,960 LAST SESSION, A DIFFERENT FORM 3825 02:56:41,960 --> 02:56:43,080 OF SCALE. 3826 02:56:43,080 --> 02:56:44,600 AT THE GATES FOUNDATION WE'RE 3827 02:56:44,600 --> 02:56:46,160 INTERESTED IN POPULATION LEVEL 3828 02:56:46,160 --> 02:56:49,400 SCALES, THINKING ABOUT HOW WE 3829 02:56:49,400 --> 02:56:51,000 CAN HAVE IMPACT LEVEL IMPACTS, 3830 02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:55,160 THROUGHOUT THE POPULATION LEVEL. 3831 02:56:55,160 --> 02:56:57,200 AND WE STARTED THE MEETING 3832 02:56:57,200 --> 02:56:59,760 TODAY, TALKING ABOUT HOW MOST 3833 02:56:59,760 --> 02:57:02,440 INTERVENTIONS UP UNTIL NOW HAVE 3834 02:57:02,440 --> 02:57:05,960 BEEN FOCUSED ON MORBIDITY OR 3835 02:57:05,960 --> 02:57:16,040 MORTALITY, ON PHYSICAL GROWTH, 3836 02:57:16,040 --> 02:57:16,760 DONE AT SCALE, HEAD 3837 02:57:16,760 --> 02:57:20,280 CIRCUMFERENCE, HEIGHT, WAIT. 3838 02:57:20,280 --> 02:57:20,840 WEIGHT. 3839 02:57:20,840 --> 02:57:22,160 WE NEED TO TAKING METHODS WE 3840 02:57:22,160 --> 02:57:23,440 HAVE, WHAT WE LEARNED OVER THE 3841 02:57:23,440 --> 02:57:25,400 PAST TWO DAYS AND SCALE THEM UP, 3842 02:57:25,400 --> 02:57:29,640 NO SMALL FEAT WHEN YOU THINK 3843 02:57:29,640 --> 02:57:32,560 THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, SMALL 3844 02:57:32,560 --> 02:57:33,360 COMMUNITY HOSPITAL IN RHODE 3845 02:57:33,360 --> 02:57:35,720 ISLAND HAS THE SAME NUMBER OF 3846 02:57:35,720 --> 02:57:37,600 MRI MACHINES AS THE ENTIRE 3847 02:57:37,600 --> 02:57:41,000 COUNTRY OF MALAWI, HOW CAN WE 3848 02:57:41,000 --> 02:57:45,160 SCALE TECHNIQUES UP. 3849 02:57:45,160 --> 02:57:47,760 THAT'S THE CHARGE FOR THE LAST 3850 02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:48,320 PANEL. 3851 02:57:48,320 --> 02:57:56,160 I HAND IT OVER TO THE CHAIR, DR. 3852 02:57:56,160 --> 02:58:02,560 OGBOLE, A NEURORADIOLOGIST FROM 3853 02:58:02,560 --> 02:58:05,160 NIGERIA, SPANS THE SPECTRUM OF 3854 02:58:05,160 --> 02:58:07,800 THE LIFESPAN. 3855 02:58:07,800 --> 02:58:10,200 HIS INTEREST SPAN FROM PEDIATRIC 3856 02:58:10,200 --> 02:58:13,080 EPILEPSY TO DEMENTIA AND STROKE. 3857 02:58:13,080 --> 02:58:19,920 HE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB 3858 02:58:19,920 --> 02:58:23,000 ADVANCING NEURORADIOLOGY 3859 02:58:23,000 --> 02:58:24,760 THROUGHOUT AFRICA AND CURRENTLY 3860 02:58:24,760 --> 02:58:31,200 IS RESEARCH SCHOLAR AT 3861 02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:38,800 UNIVERSITY OF OXFORD. 3862 02:58:38,800 --> 02:58:40,840 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SEAN. 3863 02:58:40,840 --> 02:58:41,560 CAN YOU HEAR ME? 3864 02:58:41,560 --> 02:58:43,360 CAN YOU SEE MY SLIDES IN. 3865 02:58:43,360 --> 02:58:50,400 >> YOU'RE GOOD. 3866 02:58:50,400 --> 02:58:51,240 >> SLIDES ARE GOOD? 3867 02:58:51,240 --> 02:58:56,560 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3868 02:58:56,560 --> 02:58:58,280 WE'RE LOOKING AT BOTH 3869 02:58:58,280 --> 02:59:11,000 MEASUREMENTS BETWEEN POPULATION 3870 02:59:11,000 --> 02:59:14,760 AND INDIVIDUAL LEVELS. 3871 02:59:14,760 --> 02:59:16,080 BEATING TO BENTLEY. 3872 02:59:16,080 --> 02:59:18,000 I LOVE CARS. 3873 02:59:18,000 --> 02:59:25,960 THE BEETLE IS SIMPLE, TECHNOLOGY 3874 02:59:25,960 --> 02:59:32,120 BROUGHT INNOVATION, IT'S 3875 02:59:32,120 --> 02:59:33,680 POSSIBLE TO PUT TECHNOLOGY 3876 02:59:33,680 --> 02:59:35,080 INSIDE AN ELECTRIC CAR, THINGS I 3877 02:59:35,080 --> 02:59:36,320 WILL BE TALKING ABOUT. 3878 02:59:36,320 --> 02:59:44,800 WE HAVE GOOD SPEAKERS LINED UP. 3879 02:59:44,800 --> 02:59:52,800 WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT MOSTLY? 3880 02:59:52,800 --> 02:59:59,040 GENERALLY YOU FIND MRI, IN THE 3881 02:59:59,040 --> 03:00:09,320 LAST 40 YEARS, FOCUSED ON 3882 03:00:09,320 --> 03:00:11,720 RESEARCH (INDISCERNIBLE) 3883 03:00:11,720 --> 03:00:16,560 ADVANCED CENTERS NOW USE JUST 3884 03:00:16,560 --> 03:00:21,960 LIKE MRIs, PROPOSED 7 TESLA 3885 03:00:21,960 --> 03:00:24,040 MAY REPLACE 3 TESLA ACROSS THE 3886 03:00:24,040 --> 03:00:28,280 WORLD IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 3887 03:00:28,280 --> 03:00:31,640 WE'RE SEEING ADVANCES IN MR 3888 03:00:31,640 --> 03:00:36,120 TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE OF DATA 3889 03:00:36,120 --> 03:00:39,400 ACQUISITION, IMAGE 3890 03:00:39,400 --> 03:00:39,960 RECONSTRUCTION, COMPRESSED 3891 03:00:39,960 --> 03:00:42,600 SENSING, FINGERPRINTING, A.I. 3892 03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:59,680 TECHNOLOGY BRINGING TECHNOLOGY 3893 03:00:59,680 --> 03:01:00,560 TO BEAR. 3894 03:01:00,560 --> 03:01:04,760 (INDISCERNIBLE) 3895 03:01:04,760 --> 03:01:06,720 AND MORE CLINICALLY RELEVANT, 3896 03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:18,120 WITH THE SHIFT IN PARADIGM. 3897 03:01:18,120 --> 03:01:30,640 GLOBAL ACCESS, THERE ARE SEVERAL 3898 03:01:30,640 --> 03:01:31,080 CONFLICTS. 3899 03:01:31,080 --> 03:01:34,360 MOST FACILITIES, NOT 3900 03:01:34,360 --> 03:01:35,000 TRANSLATABLE TO THE CLINIC, LOW- 3901 03:01:35,000 --> 03:01:35,960 AND MIDDLE-INCOME COUNTRIES, THE 3902 03:01:35,960 --> 03:01:37,960 ISSUE OF EQUALITY, MOST SYSTEMS 3903 03:01:37,960 --> 03:01:43,080 ARE NOT WELL DISTRIBUTED AMONG 3904 03:01:43,080 --> 03:01:45,360 COUNTRIES, THERE'S A NEED TO 3905 03:01:45,360 --> 03:01:50,560 MAKE SURE THESE SYSTEMS ARE 3906 03:01:50,560 --> 03:01:52,320 ACTIVELY DISTRIBUTED, WE FIND 3907 03:01:52,320 --> 03:01:56,440 RICH INDIVIDUALS HAVE ACCESS 3908 03:01:56,440 --> 03:02:01,160 EVEN WITHIN POOR COUNTRIES, 1% 3909 03:02:01,160 --> 03:02:06,400 OF POPULATION, THE REST OF THE 3910 03:02:06,400 --> 03:02:08,360 POPULATIONS SUFFER, THE 3911 03:02:08,360 --> 03:02:12,760 DISTRIBUTION AMONG LOWER INCOME 3912 03:02:12,760 --> 03:02:14,800 COUNTRIES, MOST SYSTEMS IS 3913 03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:17,760 MOSTLY CONDUCTED IN URBAN AREAS. 3914 03:02:17,760 --> 03:02:20,160 A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE'RE TRYING 3915 03:02:20,160 --> 03:02:30,880 ANSWER TODAY, IN TERMS OF 3916 03:02:30,880 --> 03:02:38,960 POPULATION AND POPULATION 3917 03:02:38,960 --> 03:02:39,560 ACCESS. 3918 03:02:39,560 --> 03:02:44,360 HOW CAN POPULATION AFFORD THESE 3919 03:02:44,360 --> 03:02:46,080 SYSTEMS EVEN IF THEY BECOME 3920 03:02:46,080 --> 03:02:47,080 AVAILABLE AND CLINICAL IMPACT 3921 03:02:47,080 --> 03:02:54,280 THESE SYSTEMS ARE ABLE TO 3922 03:02:54,280 --> 03:02:54,720 PRODUCE. 3923 03:02:54,720 --> 03:02:58,200 MRI HAS POTENTIAL, THE CLINICAL 3924 03:02:58,200 --> 03:03:04,480 IMPACT OF THE POPULATION IS NOT 3925 03:03:04,480 --> 03:03:08,080 COMMENSURATE WITH ABILITY, AND 3926 03:03:08,080 --> 03:03:10,960 POSSIBLE TO GET AT ANSWER, YOU 3927 03:03:10,960 --> 03:03:18,440 KNOW, QUESTIONS. 3928 03:03:18,440 --> 03:03:20,560 WE NEED MULTIPLE SYSTEMS. 3929 03:03:20,560 --> 03:03:22,960 AFRICA HAS LEAST ACCESS TO MRI 3930 03:03:22,960 --> 03:03:23,280 TECHNOLOGY. 3931 03:03:23,280 --> 03:03:29,760 THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE 3932 03:03:29,760 --> 03:03:40,280 U.S., 37 TIMES MORE THAN THE 3933 03:03:40,280 --> 03:03:41,400 ENTIRE REGION. 3934 03:03:41,400 --> 03:03:46,760 WHEN YOU COMPARE TO OTHER 3935 03:03:46,760 --> 03:03:50,880 REGIONS OF THE WORLD, BETWEEN 3936 03:03:50,880 --> 03:04:00,640 MRI AND ABILITY AS WELL AS LIFE 3937 03:04:00,640 --> 03:04:02,760 EXPECTANCY (INDISCERNIBLE) LIFE 3938 03:04:02,760 --> 03:04:03,840 EXPECTANCY. 3939 03:04:03,840 --> 03:04:08,000 SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IF WE MAKE 3940 03:04:08,000 --> 03:04:09,360 TECHNOLOGY, IT'S POSSIBLE TO 3941 03:04:09,360 --> 03:04:21,600 IMPROVE HEALTH OUTCOMES OF THESE 3942 03:04:21,600 --> 03:04:27,160 POPULATIONS. 3943 03:04:27,160 --> 03:04:28,040 THERE ARE CHALLENGES. 3944 03:04:28,040 --> 03:04:30,840 THIS IS A GRAPH OR PICTURE THAT 3945 03:04:30,840 --> 03:04:34,480 REPRESENTS THE GLOBAL ACCESS TO 3946 03:04:34,480 --> 03:04:41,080 MRI, ELECTRICITY, YOU CAN SEE 3947 03:04:41,080 --> 03:04:48,560 HOW DARK AFRICA IS. 3948 03:04:48,560 --> 03:04:59,160 YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTRIES WHERE 3949 03:04:59,160 --> 03:04:59,880 NEUROSCIENCE (INDISCERNIBLE) 3950 03:04:59,880 --> 03:05:03,960 THAT HAVE ACCESS TO ELECTRICITY. 3951 03:05:03,960 --> 03:05:12,600 SO IF WE HANDLE PROGRESS, 3952 03:05:12,600 --> 03:05:16,440 INFRASTRUCTURE, CAN HANDLE 3953 03:05:16,440 --> 03:05:19,200 ELECTRICITY CHALLENGES. 3954 03:05:19,200 --> 03:05:22,760 LACK OF STORAGE, MAINTENANCE, WE 3955 03:05:22,760 --> 03:05:27,960 MUST PROPOSE HOW TO BUILD 3956 03:05:27,960 --> 03:05:44,960 CAPACITY IN THIS REGION AND ALSO 3957 03:05:44,960 --> 03:05:46,720 REDUCE BRAIN DRAIN. 3958 03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:59,440 [ GARBLED AUDIO ] 3959 03:05:59,440 --> 03:06:08,160 WE NEED TO MARRY STRUCTURE AND 3960 03:06:08,160 --> 03:06:10,960 FUNCTION, TO HARMONIZE, THE 3961 03:06:10,960 --> 03:06:22,760 BRAIN LIMITED FUNCTION, PEOPLE 3962 03:06:22,760 --> 03:06:25,360 WHO -- (INDISCERNIBLE). 3963 03:06:25,360 --> 03:06:31,440 3964 03:06:31,440 --> 03:06:34,280 3965 03:06:34,280 --> 03:07:08,320 [ GARBLED AUDIO ] 3966 03:07:08,320 --> 03:07:18,760 THERE'S THE ISSUE OF NEED OR 3967 03:07:18,760 --> 03:07:19,080 OBJECTIVITY. 3968 03:07:19,080 --> 03:07:20,160 PROVIDING IMAGING DATA WILL 3969 03:07:20,160 --> 03:07:21,200 ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR CLINICAL 3970 03:07:21,200 --> 03:07:24,000 NEEDS OF PEOPLE IN LOWER AND 3971 03:07:24,000 --> 03:07:30,360 MIDDLE INCOME COUNTRIES. 3972 03:07:30,360 --> 03:07:35,360 VENDORS OF COURSE ( 3973 03:07:35,360 --> 03:07:37,040 INDISCERNIBLE) ASSISTANCE WITH 3974 03:07:37,040 --> 03:07:41,720 TECHNOLOGY. 3975 03:07:41,720 --> 03:07:45,480 LOOK AT THIS IMAGE. 3976 03:07:45,480 --> 03:07:51,520 3977 03:07:51,520 --> 03:07:55,160 3978 03:07:55,160 --> 03:08:07,040 SO THERE'S A NEED TO LOOK AT 3979 03:08:07,040 --> 03:08:13,040 CHANGE IN THE ENVIRONMENT, 3980 03:08:13,040 --> 03:08:17,800 DISTRIBUTING ACROSS AFRICA, HAS 3981 03:08:17,800 --> 03:08:20,840 POTENTIAL TO CHANGE. 3982 03:08:20,840 --> 03:08:24,200 FIVE TESLA SYSTEMS, EQUIVALENT 3983 03:08:24,200 --> 03:08:35,040 TO 1.5 SYSTEMS, WE CAN ACHIEVE 3984 03:08:35,040 --> 03:08:38,720 MORE WITH LESS. 3985 03:08:38,720 --> 03:08:41,320 SUSTAINABLE. 3986 03:08:41,320 --> 03:08:51,160 WANTS TO DEVELOP MRI MACHINE 3987 03:08:51,160 --> 03:08:51,520 (INDISCERNIBLE). 3988 03:08:51,520 --> 03:08:53,920 3989 03:08:53,920 --> 03:08:55,240 3990 03:08:55,240 --> 03:08:58,960 [ GARBLED AUDIO ]. 3991 03:08:58,960 --> 03:09:04,960 3992 03:09:04,960 --> 03:09:10,960 3993 03:09:10,960 --> 03:09:24,960 WE NEED TO UNLOCK THE DOOR, 3994 03:09:24,960 --> 03:09:26,920 DEMOCRATIZE NEUROIMAGING 3995 03:09:26,920 --> 03:09:27,920 GLOBALLY. 3996 03:09:27,920 --> 03:09:30,720 PROVIDE NEUROIMAGING GLOBALLY, 3997 03:09:30,720 --> 03:09:32,760 WIRELESS DEVICES, EEG, EMG, CAN 3998 03:09:32,760 --> 03:09:37,800 ALSO HELP PROVIDE DATA FOR 3999 03:09:37,800 --> 03:09:48,080 GLOBAL POPULATION. 4000 03:09:48,080 --> 03:09:50,160 SCALABLE NEUROIMAGING TOOLS, TO 4001 03:09:50,160 --> 03:09:54,360 PROVIDE CLINICAL AND USEFUL 4002 03:09:54,360 --> 03:09:54,600 RESEARCH. 4003 03:09:54,600 --> 03:09:55,960 FOR LOW- AND MIDDLE-INCOME 4004 03:09:55,960 --> 03:09:58,920 COUNTRIES THE CHALLENGE WE MUST 4005 03:09:58,920 --> 03:10:00,920 EMBRACE THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, 4006 03:10:00,920 --> 03:10:03,400 CHALLENGES AROUND IT, ENHANCE 4007 03:10:03,400 --> 03:10:12,080 LACK OF PAUCITY, USE TO USE 4008 03:10:12,080 --> 03:10:24,760 SYSTEMS THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE. 4009 03:10:24,760 --> 03:10:27,920 WE NEED TO MAKE DATA MORE 4010 03:10:27,920 --> 03:10:28,360 GENERALIZABLE. 4011 03:10:28,360 --> 03:10:35,960 I WANT TO WELCOME THE SPEAKERS 4012 03:10:35,960 --> 03:10:42,240 AND DISCUSSION. 4013 03:10:42,240 --> 03:10:43,760 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 4014 03:10:43,760 --> 03:10:52,160 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE 4015 03:10:52,160 --> 03:10:53,520 SCREEN, LAUREL GABARD, 4016 03:10:53,520 --> 03:10:54,280 NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY. 4017 03:10:54,280 --> 03:10:56,480 I'LL STOP SHARING SO YOU CAN 4018 03:10:56,480 --> 03:10:57,560 SHARE YOUR SCREEN. 4019 03:10:57,560 --> 03:10:58,200 >> THANKS. 4020 03:10:58,200 --> 03:11:00,480 THANKS FOR HAVING ME AS PART OF 4021 03:11:00,480 --> 03:11:03,160 THIS WORKSHOP. 4022 03:11:03,160 --> 03:11:04,720 IT'S BEEN GREAT. 4023 03:11:04,720 --> 03:11:09,520 >> LET ME INTRODUCE YOU. 4024 03:11:09,520 --> 03:11:11,560 >> YES, OF COURSE. 4025 03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:13,080 >> LET'S START WITH YOUR 4026 03:11:13,080 --> 03:11:21,200 INTRODUCTION, WE'LL HAVE A TALK 4027 03:11:21,200 --> 03:11:24,560 BY LAUREL GABARD DURNAM, 4028 03:11:24,560 --> 03:11:26,000 ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF 4029 03:11:26,000 --> 03:11:26,520 PSYCHOLOGY NORTHEASTERN 4030 03:11:26,520 --> 03:11:28,920 UNIVERSITY, B.A. DEGREE FROM 4031 03:11:28,920 --> 03:11:33,040 HARVARD, Ph.D. IN PSYCHOLOGY 4032 03:11:33,040 --> 03:11:35,080 FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, 4033 03:11:35,080 --> 03:11:40,400 POSTDOCTORAL FELLOWSHIP AT 4034 03:11:40,400 --> 03:11:44,120 BOSTON CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, A 4035 03:11:44,120 --> 03:11:44,920 DEVELOPMENTAL, COGNITIVE 4036 03:11:44,920 --> 03:11:47,760 NEUROSCIENCE RESEARCH EXPLORING 4037 03:11:47,760 --> 03:11:52,000 DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT AND 4038 03:11:52,000 --> 03:11:53,960 NEUROPLASTICITY CAN SHIFT AND 4039 03:11:53,960 --> 03:11:54,560 HINDER DEVELOPMENT. 4040 03:11:54,560 --> 03:11:56,800 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 4041 03:11:56,800 --> 03:11:58,160 >> THANKS FOR THE LOVELY 4042 03:11:58,160 --> 03:11:58,800 INTRODUCTION, GODWIN. 4043 03:11:58,800 --> 03:12:01,760 I'M GOING TO SHARE WHAT IS 4044 03:12:01,760 --> 03:12:03,960 HOPEFULLY A HOPEFULLY TALK ABOUT 4045 03:12:03,960 --> 03:12:06,400 SCALING DEVELOPMENTAL EEG ACROSS 4046 03:12:06,400 --> 03:12:07,080 CONTINENTS. 4047 03:12:07,080 --> 03:12:08,960 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 4048 03:12:08,960 --> 03:12:09,840 THE FRAMEWORK BOTH YESTERDAY AND 4049 03:12:09,840 --> 03:12:15,320 TODAY IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT 4050 03:12:15,320 --> 03:12:16,520 THESE BRAIN OR PLASTICITY, 4051 03:12:16,520 --> 03:12:18,680 EXPERIENCE BY TIME AND 4052 03:12:18,680 --> 03:12:19,560 INTERACTION, MOVES SO SMOOTHLY 4053 03:12:19,560 --> 03:12:22,040 BETWEEN THE NEED FOR DEEP 4054 03:12:22,040 --> 03:12:23,080 PHENOTYPING AND SCALABLE 4055 03:12:23,080 --> 03:12:23,360 PHENOTYPING. 4056 03:12:23,360 --> 03:12:25,720 ON ONE HAND WE NEED TO THINK 4057 03:12:25,720 --> 03:12:27,560 ABOUT UNDERSTANDING MECHANISMS 4058 03:12:27,560 --> 03:12:28,720 AND TRANSLATING BETWEEN 4059 03:12:28,720 --> 03:12:30,640 COMPUTATIONAL AND ANIMAL MODELS 4060 03:12:30,640 --> 03:12:32,960 AND HUMAN MEASURES OF EARLY 4061 03:12:32,960 --> 03:12:35,160 BRAIN DEVELOPMENT, IN MY CASE 4062 03:12:35,160 --> 03:12:36,560 THINKING ABOUT MECHANISMS AND 4063 03:12:36,560 --> 03:12:37,680 TIMING FOR SENSITIVE PERIODS 4064 03:12:37,680 --> 03:12:40,280 WHEN THE BRAIN IS ESPECIALLY 4065 03:12:40,280 --> 03:12:42,720 PLASTIC AND RECEPTIVE TO 4066 03:12:42,720 --> 03:12:43,880 EXPERIENCES, BUT THIS IS ALSO 4067 03:12:43,880 --> 03:12:45,120 POWERFUL BECAUSE IT TELLS US 4068 03:12:45,120 --> 03:12:48,960 WHAT AND HOW AND WHEN TO DO 4069 03:12:48,960 --> 03:12:50,480 INTERVENTIONS OR TO EFFECT BRAIN 4070 03:12:50,480 --> 03:12:52,440 CHANGE TO PROMOTE INFANT BRAIN 4071 03:12:52,440 --> 03:12:52,680 HEALTH. 4072 03:12:52,680 --> 03:12:54,720 AND SO IN THIS SPACE WE ALSO 4073 03:12:54,720 --> 03:12:56,720 NEED TO MEASURE THE RIGHT 4074 03:12:56,720 --> 03:12:57,680 MEASURES, AT THE RIGHT 4075 03:12:57,680 --> 03:12:59,200 DEVELOPMENTAL MOMENTS TO MAKE 4076 03:12:59,200 --> 03:13:01,600 SURE WE CAN REALLY GET UTILITY 4077 03:13:01,600 --> 03:13:02,600 OUT OF THESE TOOLS. 4078 03:13:02,600 --> 03:13:06,760 SO TODAY I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON 4079 03:13:06,760 --> 03:13:10,800 GOING FROM DEEP TO SCALABLE, 4080 03:13:10,800 --> 03:13:13,000 CLINICAL SETTINGS, OFFICES AND 4081 03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:14,200 NICUs, MOVING ACROSS COUNTRY 4082 03:13:14,200 --> 03:13:20,640 AND RESOURCE SETTINGS. 4083 03:13:20,640 --> 03:13:22,320 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 4084 03:13:22,320 --> 03:13:23,960 THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO GO 4085 03:13:23,960 --> 03:13:27,640 THREE -- THROUGH ALL BUT 4086 03:13:27,640 --> 03:13:30,000 WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO BE 4087 03:13:30,000 --> 03:13:31,200 FEASIBLE AND INCLUSIVE, 4088 03:13:31,200 --> 03:13:33,320 ACCESSIBLE AND CAPACITY BUILDING 4089 03:13:33,320 --> 03:13:35,960 FOR THOSE IMPLEMENTING 4090 03:13:35,960 --> 03:13:37,920 TECHNOLOGY, AND WHETHER THEY ARE 4091 03:13:37,920 --> 03:13:38,560 EFFECTIVE WITHIN THE CONTEXT 4092 03:13:38,560 --> 03:13:40,440 TELLING US SOMETHING USEFUL AND 4093 03:13:40,440 --> 03:13:43,280 NEW ABOUT CHILD DEVELOPMENT. 4094 03:13:43,280 --> 03:13:44,120 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 4095 03:13:44,120 --> 03:13:47,160 WHEN WE THINK ABOUT FEASIBILITY, 4096 03:13:47,160 --> 03:13:58,440 EEG FEASIBILITY, ONE OF THE 4097 03:13:58,440 --> 03:14:01,920 IMPLICIT CONSTRUCTS WE NEED 4098 03:14:01,920 --> 03:14:02,800 CONSISTENT AND RELIABLE 4099 03:14:02,800 --> 03:14:03,480 MEASURES, TO HAVE CONFIDENCE 4100 03:14:03,480 --> 03:14:05,400 WHEN WE TAKE THE READOUTS THEY 4101 03:14:05,400 --> 03:14:10,080 ARE TELLING US SOMETHING ABOUT 4102 03:14:10,080 --> 03:14:14,160 THAT CHILD RATHER THAN NOISE OR 4103 03:14:14,160 --> 03:14:14,560 ARTIFACT. 4104 03:14:14,560 --> 03:14:19,800 WE HAVEN'T BEEN QUITE AS 4105 03:14:19,800 --> 03:14:21,000 CAREFUL, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING 4106 03:14:21,000 --> 03:14:22,560 TIME IN THE SPACE, THE GOOD NEWS 4107 03:14:22,560 --> 03:14:28,160 IS WHETHER YOU LOOK ACROSS 4108 03:14:28,160 --> 03:14:29,400 RESOURCE SETTINGS, CLINICAL OR 4109 03:14:29,400 --> 03:14:30,160 NEUROTYPICAL POPULATIONS IN 4110 03:14:30,160 --> 03:14:31,560 EARLY LIFE YOU NEED ONE MINUTE 4111 03:14:31,560 --> 03:14:33,880 OF GOOD DATA TO DERIVE A NUMBER 4112 03:14:33,880 --> 03:14:39,240 OF FEATURES WITH INCREDIBLY GOOD 4113 03:14:39,240 --> 03:14:39,920 INTERNAL CONSISTENCY. 4114 03:14:39,920 --> 03:14:41,960 SO THIS IS REALLY EXCITING FOR 4115 03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:44,720 ME BECAUSE A MINUTE OF DATA IS 4116 03:14:44,720 --> 03:14:46,360 FEASIBLE FOR INFANTS AND 4117 03:14:46,360 --> 03:14:49,600 CHILDREN TO GIVE US. 4118 03:14:49,600 --> 03:14:50,960 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 4119 03:14:50,960 --> 03:14:52,120 ANOTHER RELATED CHALLENGE WE 4120 03:14:52,120 --> 03:14:53,360 NEED TO EXTRACT THESE FEATURES 4121 03:14:53,360 --> 03:14:56,520 WITH THE SAME DEGREE OF 4122 03:14:56,520 --> 03:14:58,160 RELIABILITY ACROSS SETTINGS AND 4123 03:14:58,160 --> 03:14:59,120 ACROSS EEG DENSITIES. 4124 03:14:59,120 --> 03:15:01,640 SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SCALING 4125 03:15:01,640 --> 03:15:04,080 UP WE'RE MOVING FROM DENSE 4126 03:15:04,080 --> 03:15:06,800 ELECTRODE ARRAYS THAT WE USE IN 4127 03:15:06,800 --> 03:15:09,360 RESEARCH HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO 4128 03:15:09,360 --> 03:15:11,040 MUCH MORE MOBILE LOW DENSITY 4129 03:15:11,040 --> 03:15:15,400 SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY 4130 03:15:15,400 --> 03:15:16,600 DEPLOY IN RESOURCE SETTINGS THAT 4131 03:15:16,600 --> 03:15:19,240 ARE LOWER THAN OURS HERE IN THE 4132 03:15:19,240 --> 03:15:19,680 STATES. 4133 03:15:19,680 --> 03:15:24,480 AND SO WE'VE BEEN SITTING IN THE 4134 03:15:24,480 --> 03:15:29,200 SPACE BY DEVELOPING SOFTWARE 4135 03:15:29,200 --> 03:15:33,920 HAPPE SOFTWARE WE CALL IT, EEG 4136 03:15:33,920 --> 03:15:35,080 DENSITY INDEPENDENT, DEPLOYED IN 4137 03:15:35,080 --> 03:15:36,520 THESE SETTINGS AND WORKS JUST AS 4138 03:15:36,520 --> 03:15:40,880 WELL GIVING US GOOD RELIABLE 4139 03:15:40,880 --> 03:15:43,560 DATA FROM TWO ELECTRODES OR 128, 4140 03:15:43,560 --> 03:15:45,640 THINKING ACROSS THE LIFESPAN. 4141 03:15:45,640 --> 03:15:47,160 I'M A DEVELOPMENTALLIST BUT THE 4142 03:15:47,160 --> 03:15:49,960 GOAL IS TO BE USEFUL ACROSS AGES 4143 03:15:49,960 --> 03:15:50,400 AS WELL. 4144 03:15:50,400 --> 03:15:53,480 WHEN WE THINK ABOUT INCLUSIVITY 4145 03:15:53,480 --> 03:15:57,160 FOR THESE EEG METHODS WE'RE 4146 03:15:57,160 --> 03:16:00,360 WORKING TO FORMALIZE SOLUTIONS 4147 03:16:00,360 --> 03:16:02,760 TO MAKE SURE EVERY INFANT CAN 4148 03:16:02,760 --> 03:16:04,960 CONTRIBUTE TO THIS WORK BUT 4149 03:16:04,960 --> 03:16:06,240 HARDWARE PARTNERS MENTIONED HERE 4150 03:16:06,240 --> 03:16:08,200 ARE REALLY PRO-ACTIVE IN 4151 03:16:08,200 --> 03:16:10,080 GENERATING NEW SOLUTIONS TO 4152 03:16:10,080 --> 03:16:12,360 REMAIN INCLUSIVE AS WE CONTINUE 4153 03:16:12,360 --> 03:16:14,720 TO INNOVATE, A REALLY IMPORTANT 4154 03:16:14,720 --> 03:16:16,080 AND ENJOYABLE SPACE THAT I'M 4155 03:16:16,080 --> 03:16:17,600 SURE WE'LL CONTINUE TO SIT WITH 4156 03:16:17,600 --> 03:16:21,040 AND NEED TO HIT WITH. -- SIT 4157 03:16:21,040 --> 03:16:22,440 WITH. 4158 03:16:22,440 --> 03:16:24,560 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 4159 03:16:24,560 --> 03:16:28,440 LET'S THINK ABOUT WHETHER TOOLS 4160 03:16:28,440 --> 03:16:29,840 ARE ACCESSIBLE FOR THOSE ROLLING 4161 03:16:29,840 --> 03:16:31,760 THEM OUT IN DIFFERENT CONTEXTS. 4162 03:16:31,760 --> 03:16:33,160 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 4163 03:16:33,160 --> 03:16:36,640 AGAIN, ON THE HARDWARE FRONT EEG 4164 03:16:36,640 --> 03:16:41,200 IS BECOMING COST EFFECTIVE AND 4165 03:16:41,200 --> 03:16:43,280 AFFORDABLE, TO THE HUNDREDS OF 4166 03:16:43,280 --> 03:16:43,520 DOLLARS. 4167 03:16:43,520 --> 03:16:45,960 WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON THE 4168 03:16:45,960 --> 03:16:49,760 SOFTWARE SIDE AGAIN. 4169 03:16:49,760 --> 03:16:51,960 WE PURPOSELY BUILT HAPPE TO 4170 03:16:51,960 --> 03:16:53,800 SERVE A BROAD USER BASE WITH 4171 03:16:53,800 --> 03:16:55,640 VARIED SKILL SET, PART IS 4172 03:16:55,640 --> 03:16:57,360 AUTOMATED PROCESSING WE CAN ROLL 4173 03:16:57,360 --> 03:16:59,360 OUT ONCE WE VERIFY THE SOFTWARE 4174 03:16:59,360 --> 03:17:02,000 IS WORKING FOR SPECIFIC 4175 03:17:02,000 --> 03:17:02,960 CONTEXTS, SPECIFIC SITE. 4176 03:17:02,960 --> 03:17:05,280 BECAUSE A TOOL ISN'T SCALABLE IF 4177 03:17:05,280 --> 03:17:07,600 IT NEEDS ONGOING EXPERT REVIEW 4178 03:17:07,600 --> 03:17:09,960 OR SOMEONE TO HAVE TRAINED IN MY 4179 03:17:09,960 --> 03:17:10,560 LAB FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE 4180 03:17:10,560 --> 03:17:11,520 THEY RUN THIS. 4181 03:17:11,520 --> 03:17:13,560 NOT TO SAY WE DON'T BELIEVE IN 4182 03:17:13,560 --> 03:17:16,040 MONITORING THE DATA AND CHECKING 4183 03:17:16,040 --> 03:17:19,560 IN BUT WE USE EMPIRICAL 4184 03:17:19,560 --> 03:17:20,240 BENCHMARKS AND DATA-DRIVEN 4185 03:17:20,240 --> 03:17:21,000 APPROACHES RATHER THAN 4186 03:17:21,000 --> 03:17:22,440 SUBJECTIVE EXPERT REVIEW. 4187 03:17:22,440 --> 03:17:25,480 WE PROVIDE BENCHMARKS TO HELP 4188 03:17:25,480 --> 03:17:26,800 MONITOR EQUIPMENT, PROTOCOL, 4189 03:17:26,800 --> 03:17:28,880 ADHERENCE, AND DATA QUALITY TO 4190 03:17:28,880 --> 03:17:30,640 DO THIS CAPACITY BUILDING. 4191 03:17:30,640 --> 03:17:33,840 SO SITES CAN TAKE TOOLS AND RUN 4192 03:17:33,840 --> 03:17:34,760 THEMSELVES. 4193 03:17:34,760 --> 03:17:39,520 HERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES, ONE 4194 03:17:39,520 --> 03:17:45,160 MEASURE FOR LINE NOISE AND DATA 4195 03:17:45,160 --> 03:17:47,640 RETENTION IN STAFF TRANSITION, 4196 03:17:47,640 --> 03:17:49,840 WE MEASURED CHANGES IN ELEMENTS 4197 03:17:49,840 --> 03:17:53,440 OF STUDY DESIGN BUT WE'RE 4198 03:17:53,440 --> 03:17:55,560 WORKING TO OFFER MORE, SO WE CAN 4199 03:17:55,560 --> 03:18:04,560 STEP BACK FURTHER AND FURTHER 4200 03:18:04,560 --> 03:18:05,280 FROM THE PROCESS. 4201 03:18:05,280 --> 03:18:09,320 AND WHETHER THE TOOLS ARE 4202 03:18:09,320 --> 03:18:09,800 EFFECTIVE. 4203 03:18:09,800 --> 03:18:10,280 NEXT SLIDE. 4204 03:18:10,280 --> 03:18:12,760 AND HERE I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH TWO 4205 03:18:12,760 --> 03:18:15,560 SNIPPETS THAT SUGGEST THIS IS 4206 03:18:15,560 --> 03:18:17,760 THE CASE FOR EEG, ESPECIALLY 4207 03:18:17,760 --> 03:18:22,000 EARLY IN LIFE WHEN WE CONSIDER 4208 03:18:22,000 --> 03:18:23,840 DEVELOPMENTAL CHANGE. 4209 03:18:23,840 --> 03:18:25,800 WE'VE GOT PREDICTIVE CAPABILITY 4210 03:18:25,800 --> 03:18:28,160 OF EEG IN FIRST YEAR FOR 4211 03:18:28,160 --> 03:18:29,120 DIFFERENT CLINICAL POPULATIONS, 4212 03:18:29,120 --> 03:18:30,800 IN PARTICULAR THINKING ABOUT WHO 4213 03:18:30,800 --> 03:18:32,760 IS GOING TO RECEIVE AN AUTISM 4214 03:18:32,760 --> 03:18:36,280 DIAGNOSIS IN EARLY LIFE, AS WELL 4215 03:18:36,280 --> 03:18:37,840 AS ACROSS RESOURCE SETTINGS FOR 4216 03:18:37,840 --> 03:18:38,680 PREDICTING LANGUAGE SETTINGS IN 4217 03:18:38,680 --> 03:18:40,880 THE SECOND YEAR AS THEY BEGIN TO 4218 03:18:40,880 --> 03:18:41,240 EMERGE. 4219 03:18:41,240 --> 03:18:46,360 SO WE THINK THIS WORK IS 4220 03:18:46,360 --> 03:18:47,760 DEMONSTRATING ACROSS HUNDREDS OF 4221 03:18:47,760 --> 03:18:50,560 PARTICIPANTS UTILITY OF THINKING 4222 03:18:50,560 --> 03:18:53,160 ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL AT SCALE, 4223 03:18:53,160 --> 03:18:56,160 SOME OUTCOMES WE CARE DEEPLY 4224 03:18:56,160 --> 03:18:56,440 ABOUT. 4225 03:18:56,440 --> 03:18:57,400 FINAL SLIDE PLEASE. 4226 03:18:57,400 --> 03:18:59,720 WE'VE ONLY HAD TIME TO TOUCH 4227 03:18:59,720 --> 03:19:04,920 QUICKLY ON EACH OF THESE THEMES 4228 03:19:04,920 --> 03:19:06,560 BUT A STRONG START IN SORT OF 4229 03:19:06,560 --> 03:19:08,480 MOVING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN 4230 03:19:08,480 --> 03:19:10,880 THE SPACES, MAKING SURE WE 4231 03:19:10,880 --> 03:19:12,080 CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE 4232 03:19:12,080 --> 03:19:13,920 INCLUSIVITY IN THIS WORK AND 4233 03:19:13,920 --> 03:19:16,360 CONTINUE TO DEVELOP TOOLS THAT 4234 03:19:16,360 --> 03:19:17,960 WILL MAKE THIS ACCESSIBLE AND 4235 03:19:17,960 --> 03:19:21,160 ABLE TO BE USED TO ACTUALLY 4236 03:19:21,160 --> 03:19:22,400 SUPPORT BRAIN HEALTH FOR BABIES 4237 03:19:22,400 --> 03:19:24,400 REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY ARE 4238 03:19:24,400 --> 03:19:25,600 BORN AND RAISED. 4239 03:19:25,600 --> 03:19:26,600 NEXT SLIDE. 4240 03:19:26,600 --> 03:19:28,480 I'LL THANK INDIVIDUALS IN MY LAB 4241 03:19:28,480 --> 03:19:30,280 TWO CONTRIBUTED TO THE WORK I'VE 4242 03:19:30,280 --> 03:19:41,760 SHOWN YOU TODAY AND TO SOME 4243 03:19:41,760 --> 03:19:42,440 COLLABORATORS, ESPECIALLY 4244 03:19:42,440 --> 03:19:44,280 SANTIAGO MORALES AND CHUCK 4245 03:19:44,280 --> 03:19:47,360 NELSON WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE 4246 03:19:47,360 --> 03:19:47,800 SLIDES. 4247 03:19:47,800 --> 03:19:51,360 >> THANK YOU FOR THE STRONG 4248 03:19:51,360 --> 03:19:53,800 INSIGHTS INTO EEG AND CAPABILITY 4249 03:19:53,800 --> 03:19:55,440 IN EARLY LIFE. 4250 03:19:55,440 --> 03:19:57,080 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS 4251 03:19:57,080 --> 03:19:58,440 LATER. 4252 03:19:58,440 --> 03:20:04,360 LET'S HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER, 4253 03:20:04,360 --> 03:20:04,960 JOSEF PARVIZI. 4254 03:20:04,960 --> 03:20:10,160 WILL YOU SHARE YOUR SCREEN? 4255 03:20:10,160 --> 03:20:15,720 OKAY. 4256 03:20:15,720 --> 03:20:17,320 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. 4257 03:20:17,320 --> 03:20:19,880 >> A BRIEF INTRODUCTION, MEDICAL 4258 03:20:19,880 --> 03:20:24,800 INTERNSHIP AT MAYO CLINIC, 4259 03:20:24,800 --> 03:20:26,200 NEUROLOGY RESIDENCY AT HARVARD 4260 03:20:26,200 --> 03:20:29,680 MEDICAL SCHOOL BEFORE JOINING 4261 03:20:29,680 --> 03:20:33,920 THE FELLOWSHIP TRAINING IN 4262 03:20:33,920 --> 03:20:35,240 CLINICAL NEUROPHYSIOLOGY, WORKED 4263 03:20:35,240 --> 03:20:36,680 AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY MEDICAL 4264 03:20:36,680 --> 03:20:39,400 CENTER SINCE 2007, SPECIALIZES 4265 03:20:39,400 --> 03:20:42,560 IN TREATING PATIENTS WITH 4266 03:20:42,560 --> 03:20:43,040 UNCONTROLLABLE SEIZURES, 4267 03:20:43,040 --> 03:20:44,880 PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR IN THE 4268 03:20:44,880 --> 03:20:48,800 LABORATORY OF BEHAVIORAL AND 4269 03:20:48,800 --> 03:20:49,840 COGNITIVE NEUROSCIENCE, WHOSE 4270 03:20:49,840 --> 03:20:52,320 RESEARCH ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN 4271 03:20:52,320 --> 03:20:53,440 SUPPORTED BY NIH, NATIONAL 4272 03:20:53,440 --> 03:20:57,960 SCIENCE FOUNDATION, SEVERAL 4273 03:20:57,960 --> 03:21:00,000 OTHER PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS. 4274 03:21:00,000 --> 03:21:04,720 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. 4275 03:21:04,720 --> 03:21:04,920 OGBOLE. 4276 03:21:04,920 --> 03:21:07,440 DO YOU SEE MY SCREEN? 4277 03:21:07,440 --> 03:21:07,800 >> YES. 4278 03:21:07,800 --> 03:21:10,720 >> WE SEE YOUR SCREEN. 4279 03:21:10,720 --> 03:21:11,080 >> WONDERFUL. 4280 03:21:11,080 --> 03:21:13,360 >> AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN ORDER TO 4281 03:21:13,360 --> 03:21:16,920 GET AN EEG FROM THE HEAD OF AN 4282 03:21:16,920 --> 03:21:22,520 INDIVIDUAL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 4283 03:21:22,520 --> 03:21:23,040 SPECIALIZED TECHNICIANS, 4284 03:21:23,040 --> 03:21:26,000 ESPECIALLY IN PATIENT SETTINGS, 4285 03:21:26,000 --> 03:21:28,040 E.R. SETTINGS, ALSO IN LAB 4286 03:21:28,040 --> 03:21:29,360 SETTING YOU NEED RESEARCH 4287 03:21:29,360 --> 03:21:31,920 ASSISTANT TRAINED TO OPERATE THE 4288 03:21:31,920 --> 03:21:35,080 MACHINERY, DEALING WITH VERY 4289 03:21:35,080 --> 03:21:38,000 LARGE AND EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT. 4290 03:21:38,000 --> 03:21:39,880 AND SPECIALIZED PEOPLE IN THE 4291 03:21:39,880 --> 03:21:41,080 CLINICAL SETTINGS, NEUROLOGISTS 4292 03:21:41,080 --> 03:21:43,720 WITH TRAINING IN CLINICAL 4293 03:21:43,720 --> 03:21:46,960 NEUROPHYSIOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO 4294 03:21:46,960 --> 03:21:50,160 READ EEGs. 4295 03:21:50,160 --> 03:21:51,760 UNFORTUNATELY, THIS CREATES A 4296 03:21:51,760 --> 03:21:54,360 BIG LOCAL EVENT TIMELY AND 4297 03:21:54,360 --> 03:21:57,800 EXTREMELY COSTLY, AND AS A 4298 03:21:57,800 --> 03:21:59,320 RESULT MANY ACTUALLY LARGE 4299 03:21:59,320 --> 03:22:02,600 MAJORITY OF HOSPITALS IN THE 4300 03:22:02,600 --> 03:22:04,360 UNITED STATES CANNOT EVEN AFFORD 4301 03:22:04,360 --> 03:22:07,320 OFFERING THIS TYPE OF EEG 4302 03:22:07,320 --> 03:22:09,920 SERVICES FOR CLINICAL USE DURING 4303 03:22:09,920 --> 03:22:11,000 AFTER-HOURS. 4304 03:22:11,000 --> 03:22:16,040 IT'S VERY COSTLY AND IT IS TIME 4305 03:22:16,040 --> 03:22:16,360 CONSUMING. 4306 03:22:16,360 --> 03:22:20,120 I FOUNDED THIS COMPANY, AND I 4307 03:22:20,120 --> 03:22:23,800 SPEAK ON BEHALF OF LARGE TEAM OF 4308 03:22:23,800 --> 03:22:27,640 DEVELOPERS IN OUR COMPANY, IN 4309 03:22:27,640 --> 03:22:29,440 SILICON VALLEY, ALTERNATIVE THAT 4310 03:22:29,440 --> 03:22:31,840 MAKES ACQUISITION OF EEG 4311 03:22:31,840 --> 03:22:35,160 EXTREMELY EASY AND COST 4312 03:22:35,160 --> 03:22:35,800 BENEFICIAL. 4313 03:22:35,800 --> 03:22:38,280 IT INCLUDES ONE PORTABLE 4314 03:22:38,280 --> 03:22:39,360 PACKET-SIZED BATTERY OPERATED, 4315 03:22:39,360 --> 03:22:43,440 YOU DON'T NEED ELECTRICITY FOR 4316 03:22:43,440 --> 03:22:45,320 THIS EEG RECORDER, ALSO 4317 03:22:45,320 --> 03:22:47,080 DISPOSABLE HEADBAND. 4318 03:22:47,080 --> 03:22:51,520 YOU CAN USE IN FDA ON ONE 4319 03:22:51,520 --> 03:22:54,480 PATIENT, 20 OR 30 TIMES ON THE 4320 03:22:54,480 --> 03:22:55,440 SAME PATIENT. 4321 03:22:55,440 --> 03:22:58,440 AND RISK OF INFECTION IS NOT A 4322 03:22:58,440 --> 03:23:00,080 PROBLEM, YOU CAN USE IT ON AS 4323 03:23:00,080 --> 03:23:02,240 MANY PATIENTS AS YOU WANT. 4324 03:23:02,240 --> 03:23:04,880 IT GOES AROUND THE CIRCUMFERENCE 4325 03:23:04,880 --> 03:23:07,560 OF HEAD AS I WILL SHOW IN THE 4326 03:23:07,560 --> 03:23:08,040 NEXT SLIDE. 4327 03:23:08,040 --> 03:23:12,440 IT TAKES ABOUT TWO MINUTES TO 4328 03:23:12,440 --> 03:23:12,760 APPLY. 4329 03:23:12,760 --> 03:23:13,960 FORTUNATELY, IT HAS BEEN 4330 03:23:13,960 --> 03:23:19,440 DESIGNED THAT IT DOESN'T NEED 4331 03:23:19,440 --> 03:23:21,040 MUCH PRIOR TRAINING. 4332 03:23:21,040 --> 03:23:22,320 LESS WITH DESIGN AWARDS AND MADE 4333 03:23:22,320 --> 03:23:26,280 SURE THIS IS GOING TO BE 4334 03:23:26,280 --> 03:23:28,360 EXTREMELY EASY AND INTUITIVE TO 4335 03:23:28,360 --> 03:23:28,920 APPLY. 4336 03:23:28,920 --> 03:23:31,320 WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS THAT YOU 4337 03:23:31,320 --> 03:23:35,920 ACTUALLY PUT THE HEADBAND AROUND 4338 03:23:35,920 --> 03:23:39,000 THE HEAD, AND IT'S CONNECTED TO 4339 03:23:39,000 --> 03:23:39,960 THE BATTERY-OPERATED DEVICE WITH 4340 03:23:39,960 --> 03:23:40,920 A WIRE. 4341 03:23:40,920 --> 03:23:42,600 WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO BLUETOOTH 4342 03:23:42,600 --> 03:23:47,320 BECAUSE OF LACK OF FIDELITY OF 4343 03:23:47,320 --> 03:23:50,040 THESE TYPE OF HIGH TECH TYPE OF 4344 03:23:50,040 --> 03:23:50,360 CONNECTIONS. 4345 03:23:50,360 --> 03:23:54,560 WE WANTED TO BE VERY SOLID. 4346 03:23:54,560 --> 03:23:58,640 SO, IT PROVIDES YOU INFORMATION 4347 03:23:58,640 --> 03:24:00,240 WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OR SHORTER 4348 03:24:00,240 --> 03:24:01,920 IN FOUR DIFFERENT MANNERS. 4349 03:24:01,920 --> 03:24:04,360 ONE IS YOU CAN SEE IT AT THE 4350 03:24:04,360 --> 03:24:06,880 BEDSIDE, ON THE SCREEN, HOW THE 4351 03:24:06,880 --> 03:24:09,360 EEG LOOKS LIKE, IN CLINICAL 4352 03:24:09,360 --> 03:24:12,160 SETTINGS ESPECIALLY IN YOU ARE A 4353 03:24:12,160 --> 03:24:12,760 PEDIATRIC NEUROLOGIST ASSESSING 4354 03:24:12,760 --> 03:24:19,640 A KID WHO IS ALTERED OR AGITATED 4355 03:24:19,640 --> 03:24:24,120 OR LETHARGIC, YOU BASICALLY CAN 4356 03:24:24,120 --> 03:24:26,360 DIAGNOSE STATUS IN MINUTES BY 4357 03:24:26,360 --> 03:24:27,360 REVIEWING EEG AT THE BEDSIDE. 4358 03:24:27,360 --> 03:24:29,800 IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ IT 4359 03:24:29,800 --> 03:24:32,960 THERE'S AN ALGORITHM THAT 4360 03:24:32,960 --> 03:24:37,600 CONVERTS EEG INTO A SONIFIED 4361 03:24:37,600 --> 03:24:39,360 SPACE TO APPRECIATE THE SOUND OF 4362 03:24:39,360 --> 03:24:40,280 THE BRAIN. 4363 03:24:40,280 --> 03:24:42,480 MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF YOU HAVE A 4364 03:24:42,480 --> 03:24:43,760 PHONE THAT CONNECTS WITH THE 4365 03:24:43,760 --> 03:24:48,320 RECORDER OR IF YOU HAVE THE 4366 03:24:48,320 --> 03:24:50,800 RECORDER IN A WI-FI-FRIENDLY 4367 03:24:50,800 --> 03:24:54,480 ENVIRONMENT IT SENDS THE SIGNAL 4368 03:24:54,480 --> 03:24:55,160 TO WI-FI. 4369 03:24:55,160 --> 03:24:59,080 IN THE CLOUD WE HAVE THE 4370 03:24:59,080 --> 03:25:01,400 COMPUTATIONAL ALGORITHMS PLACED. 4371 03:25:01,400 --> 03:25:04,720 YOU CAN USE THE CLOUD TO REVIEW 4372 03:25:04,720 --> 03:25:07,720 THE EEG BACK AND FORTH LIKE ANY 4373 03:25:07,720 --> 03:25:08,280 NEUROLOGIST DOES. 4374 03:25:08,280 --> 03:25:10,240 THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY 4375 03:25:10,240 --> 03:25:12,080 SEE THE TRACING. 4376 03:25:12,080 --> 03:25:16,640 YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE TRACING, 4377 03:25:16,640 --> 03:25:22,760 AND DO YOUR RESEARCH ANALYSES. 4378 03:25:22,760 --> 03:25:25,480 YOU CAN ALSO RELY ON ARTIFICIAL 4379 03:25:25,480 --> 03:25:27,600 INTELLIGENCE ALGORITHMS THAT WE 4380 03:25:27,600 --> 03:25:30,120 HAVE PLACED. 4381 03:25:30,120 --> 03:25:32,360 THE VERY FIRST FDA-APPROVED A.I. 4382 03:25:32,360 --> 03:25:35,160 ALGORITHM IS A SEIZURE LOAD 4383 03:25:35,160 --> 03:25:36,960 ESTIMATE ALGORITHM THAT I WILL 4384 03:25:36,960 --> 03:25:39,080 TELL YOU BRIEFLY. 4385 03:25:39,080 --> 03:25:42,360 HERE IS TWO MINUTES ON HOW THE 4386 03:25:42,360 --> 03:25:51,840 EEG IS SO EASILY SET UP. 4387 03:25:51,840 --> 03:25:54,920 >> IT'S COMPOSED OF A RECORDER 4388 03:25:54,920 --> 03:25:56,240 AND HEADBAND, DESIGNED TO 4389 03:25:56,240 --> 03:26:02,760 STRETCH TO FIT MOST ADULT HEAD 4390 03:26:02,760 --> 03:26:07,160 SIZES, CAN ACCOMMODATE THICK 4391 03:26:07,160 --> 03:26:09,000 LONG HAIR. 4392 03:26:09,000 --> 03:26:11,720 PLACE THE HEADBAND, ATTACH AND 4393 03:26:11,720 --> 03:26:15,280 SECURE ON THE FOREHEAD. 4394 03:26:15,280 --> 03:26:16,760 THERE ARE 2004 CLASPS TO 4395 03:26:16,760 --> 03:26:17,920 ACCOMMODATE HEAD SIZES. 4396 03:26:17,920 --> 03:26:20,000 MAKE SURE THE CLASP CLOSURE IS 4397 03:26:20,000 --> 03:26:22,400 CENTERED ON THE PATIENT'S 4398 03:26:22,400 --> 03:26:22,680 FOREHEAD. 4399 03:26:22,680 --> 03:26:25,400 THE HEADBAND'S POSITION IS ABOVE 4400 03:26:25,400 --> 03:26:27,120 THE PATIENT'S BROW LINE. 4401 03:26:27,120 --> 03:26:29,280 PLUG THE HEADBAND INTO THE 4402 03:26:29,280 --> 03:26:29,520 DEVICE. 4403 03:26:29,520 --> 03:26:32,080 STARTING FROM THE HOME SCREEN, 4404 03:26:32,080 --> 03:26:32,880 PRESS THE RECORD BUTTON. 4405 03:26:32,880 --> 03:26:34,600 SOFTWARE WILL ASK YOU TO ENTER 4406 03:26:34,600 --> 03:26:38,200 THE PATIENT ID OR MEDICAL RECORD 4407 03:26:38,200 --> 03:26:38,440 NUMBER. 4408 03:26:38,440 --> 03:26:40,200 ONCE ALL THE PATIENT INFORMATION 4409 03:26:40,200 --> 03:26:42,640 HAS BEEN ENTERED YOU'LL BE ASKED 4410 03:26:42,640 --> 03:26:44,440 TO CONFIRM PATIENT INFORMATION. 4411 03:26:44,440 --> 03:26:47,840 THIS WILL TAKE YOU TO THE CHECK 4412 03:26:47,840 --> 03:26:51,400 ELECTRODE PAGE. 4413 03:26:51,400 --> 03:26:54,720 ROTATE ELECTRODES BACK AND FORTH 4414 03:26:54,720 --> 03:26:56,160 FOR SEVEN FULL ROTATIONS, 4415 03:26:56,160 --> 03:26:58,160 PARTING THE HAIR, BE SURE TO 4416 03:26:58,160 --> 03:26:59,360 DIRECT GENTLE PRESSURE TOWARDS 4417 03:26:59,360 --> 03:27:08,000 THE PATIENT'S HEAD WITH THE 4418 03:27:08,000 --> 03:27:09,760 ELECTRODES. 4419 03:27:09,760 --> 03:27:14,400 AFTER SEVEN ROTATIONS RETURN AND 4420 03:27:14,400 --> 03:27:15,880 SQUEEZE INTO THE KNOB. 4421 03:27:15,880 --> 03:27:18,680 >> THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE EEG 4422 03:27:18,680 --> 03:27:20,680 WITHIN TWO MINUTES ON THE 4423 03:27:20,680 --> 03:27:21,560 SCREEN. 4424 03:27:21,560 --> 03:27:22,560 YOU CAN REVIEW IT. 4425 03:27:22,560 --> 03:27:25,400 ALSO WITH THE SOUND YOU'LL BE 4426 03:27:25,400 --> 03:27:27,240 ABLE TO ACTUALLY HEAR, FOR 4427 03:27:27,240 --> 03:27:28,400 EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S SEIZURE 4428 03:27:28,400 --> 03:27:36,040 YOU'LL HEAR IT LIKE THIS. 4429 03:27:36,040 --> 03:27:39,640 SO, MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THE 4430 03:27:39,640 --> 03:27:42,040 SEIZURE ALGORITHM WHICH I WON'T 4431 03:27:42,040 --> 03:27:42,600 GO INTO DETAIL. 4432 03:27:42,600 --> 03:27:44,240 BASICALLY GIVES YOU A TREND 4433 03:27:44,240 --> 03:27:48,200 LINE, ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH 4434 03:27:48,200 --> 03:27:49,280 PATHOLOGICAL ACTIVITY IS 4435 03:27:49,280 --> 03:27:51,520 PRESENT, VERY IMPORTANT IN A 4436 03:27:51,520 --> 03:27:53,360 VERY ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL AT HOME 4437 03:27:53,360 --> 03:27:54,960 WITH ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE AND YOU 4438 03:27:54,960 --> 03:27:56,760 WANT TO ACTUALLY KNOW IF THE 4439 03:27:56,760 --> 03:27:58,920 PATIENT JUST HAD A SEIZURE OR IS 4440 03:27:58,920 --> 03:28:00,360 HAVING A SEIZURE, WITHIN TWO 4441 03:28:00,360 --> 03:28:05,680 MINUTES, OR A CHILD NOT VERY 4442 03:28:05,680 --> 03:28:06,800 COOPERATIVE WITH THE TECHNICIAN 4443 03:28:06,800 --> 03:28:12,040 TO PUT THE ELECTRODES ON THE 4444 03:28:12,040 --> 03:28:12,480 HEAD. 4445 03:28:12,480 --> 03:28:14,760 TO SHOW EXAMPLES OF HOW IT LOOKS 4446 03:28:14,760 --> 03:28:20,520 IN CLINICAL CONDITIONS SO YOU 4447 03:28:20,520 --> 03:28:22,880 CAN GET YOUR IMPRESSION. 4448 03:28:22,880 --> 03:28:24,520 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS 4449 03:28:24,520 --> 03:28:28,560 LATER ON BUT IF YOU'RE 4450 03:28:28,560 --> 03:28:29,200 INTERESTED IN THIS TECHNOLOGY, 4451 03:28:29,200 --> 03:28:32,920 PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO 4452 03:28:32,920 --> 03:28:35,200 ME DIRECTLY. 4453 03:28:35,200 --> 03:28:36,880 YOU HAVE MY E-MAIL ADDRESS. 4454 03:28:36,880 --> 03:28:37,960 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 4455 03:28:37,960 --> 03:28:40,080 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 4456 03:28:40,080 --> 03:28:48,960 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOSEF. 4457 03:28:48,960 --> 03:28:52,160 WONDERFUL TALK. 4458 03:28:52,160 --> 03:28:54,680 MOVING QUICKLY, WE'RE RUNNING 4459 03:28:54,680 --> 03:28:59,480 BEHIND THEM. 4460 03:28:59,480 --> 03:29:10,760 SARAH FOX, LEAD INVESTIGATOR OF 4461 03:29:10,760 --> 03:29:14,320 THE INTERDISCIPLINARY STUDY. 4462 03:29:14,320 --> 03:29:14,840 >> THANK YOU. 4463 03:29:14,840 --> 03:29:16,640 I THINK I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME 4464 03:29:16,640 --> 03:29:22,120 WORK I'VE BEEN DOING USING THE 4465 03:29:22,120 --> 03:29:28,080 TECHNOLOGY I'VE BEEN DEVELOPING 4466 03:29:28,080 --> 03:29:30,320 ON SPECTROSCOPY IN GLOBAL HEALTH 4467 03:29:30,320 --> 03:29:32,920 SETTINGS AND TO UNDERSTAND 4468 03:29:32,920 --> 03:29:35,360 IMPACTS OF MULTI-DIMENSIONAL 4469 03:29:35,360 --> 03:29:37,040 CONSTRUCT OF POVERTY RATHER THAN 4470 03:29:37,040 --> 03:29:38,600 JUST MEASURING INCOME AND 4471 03:29:38,600 --> 03:29:40,080 EDUCATION OF PARENTS, TRYING TO 4472 03:29:40,080 --> 03:29:42,400 THINK ABOUT ALL THE CONSEQUENCES 4473 03:29:42,400 --> 03:29:50,520 OF POVERTY AND IN DIFFERENT 4474 03:29:50,520 --> 03:29:50,760 CONTEXT. 4475 03:29:50,760 --> 03:29:53,240 SOMETHING SAID IN PREVIOUS 4476 03:29:53,240 --> 03:29:55,120 SESSIONS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF 4477 03:29:55,120 --> 03:29:58,360 RESEARCH THAT GOES ON IN INFANT 4478 03:29:58,360 --> 03:29:59,800 NEUROIMAGING STUDIES IS CARRIED 4479 03:29:59,800 --> 03:30:04,040 OUT IN THE GLOBAL NORTH. 4480 03:30:04,040 --> 03:30:05,920 ANOTHER POINT TO EMPHASIZE 4481 03:30:05,920 --> 03:30:06,560 LONGITUDINAL STUDY DESIGNS ARE 4482 03:30:06,560 --> 03:30:09,080 STILL VERY MUCH THE EXCEPTION TO 4483 03:30:09,080 --> 03:30:09,760 THE NORM. 4484 03:30:09,760 --> 03:30:13,560 I WANT TO JUST VERY QUICKLY SHOW 4485 03:30:13,560 --> 03:30:16,000 HOW WE ARE USING THESE 4486 03:30:16,000 --> 03:30:16,960 NEUROIMAGING TECHNOLOGIES TO 4487 03:30:16,960 --> 03:30:19,520 INTEGRATE INTO GLOBAL HEALTH 4488 03:30:19,520 --> 03:30:19,760 SETTINGS. 4489 03:30:19,760 --> 03:30:25,320 AND I HOPE TO KIND OF EMPHASIZE 4490 03:30:25,320 --> 03:30:27,600 THE POWER OF STUDY DESIGN, 4491 03:30:27,600 --> 03:30:28,320 DURING EARLY LIFE. 4492 03:30:28,320 --> 03:30:30,800 TO DO THAT I WILL FIRST TALK 4493 03:30:30,800 --> 03:30:35,200 ABOUT THE BRAIN IMAGING FOR 4494 03:30:35,200 --> 03:30:38,920 GLOBAL HEALTHY I'M A LEAD 4495 03:30:38,920 --> 03:30:41,760 INVESTIGATOR ON, IN GAMBIA, AND 4496 03:30:41,760 --> 03:30:44,160 THIS STUDY AS WAS DISCUSSED 4497 03:30:44,160 --> 03:30:46,440 EARLIER AS WELL IS SOMETHING 4498 03:30:46,440 --> 03:30:49,440 THAT IS A LARGE COLLABORATIVE 4499 03:30:49,440 --> 03:30:53,560 TEAM THAT USES MANY DIFFERENT 4500 03:30:53,560 --> 03:30:57,080 BACKGROUNDS OF RESEARCH, 4501 03:30:57,080 --> 03:31:00,000 NUTRITION, MATERNAL HEALTH, 4502 03:31:00,000 --> 03:31:00,640 DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY, 4503 03:31:00,640 --> 03:31:01,200 NEUROSCIENCE, PSYCHOLOGY, 4504 03:31:01,200 --> 03:31:02,320 BRINGING IN LOTS OF THESE AREAS 4505 03:31:02,320 --> 03:31:06,960 IS ONE OF THE STRENGTHS OF THE 4506 03:31:06,960 --> 03:31:07,360 PROJECT AS WELL. 4507 03:31:07,360 --> 03:31:10,880 THE BACKBONE OF THE WORK WE'RE 4508 03:31:10,880 --> 03:31:12,520 DOING IN INTEGRATING 4509 03:31:12,520 --> 03:31:14,800 NEUROIMAGING WITH EEG, IT'S IN 4510 03:31:14,800 --> 03:31:17,040 THE CONTEXT OF UNDER NUTRITION 4511 03:31:17,040 --> 03:31:22,800 RESEARCH THAT HAS LARGELY 4512 03:31:22,800 --> 03:31:24,760 FOCUSED ON IMPACT. 4513 03:31:24,760 --> 03:31:26,160 HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED TO OTHER 4514 03:31:26,160 --> 03:31:29,640 CONSEQUENCES, THIS IS HOW WE 4515 03:31:29,640 --> 03:31:31,840 INTEGRATED THIS INTO THE HUGE 4516 03:31:31,840 --> 03:31:35,360 STUDY THAT THINKS ABOUT LOTS OF 4517 03:31:35,360 --> 03:31:36,760 FACTORS AND ENVIRONMENT. 4518 03:31:36,760 --> 03:31:38,320 TO GET HIGHLIGHTS OF THINGS 4519 03:31:38,320 --> 03:31:40,080 WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, WHAT WE 4520 03:31:40,080 --> 03:31:41,920 ARE ABLE TO SEE IN THE RESEARCH 4521 03:31:41,920 --> 03:31:45,560 COMING OUT RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE 4522 03:31:45,560 --> 03:31:47,840 CAN SEE THAT EARLY GROWTH TO 4523 03:31:47,840 --> 03:31:48,720 FIVE MONTHS, CHANGES BETWEEN 4524 03:31:48,720 --> 03:31:52,560 BIRTH AND FIVE MONTHS OF AGE, 4525 03:31:52,560 --> 03:31:53,520 RELATE TO NEUROCOGNITIVE AND 4526 03:31:53,520 --> 03:31:56,560 NEURAL COG ANY ACTIVITY AT TWO 4527 03:31:56,560 --> 03:31:58,000 YEARS, WE HAVE EVIDENCE EARLY 4528 03:31:58,000 --> 03:32:00,400 NEUROMARKERS AT FIVE MONTHS ARE 4529 03:32:00,400 --> 03:32:02,520 RELATING TO LATER MARKERS OF 4530 03:32:02,520 --> 03:32:04,120 EXECUTIVE FUNCTION, THREE TO 4531 03:32:04,120 --> 03:32:07,520 FIVE YEARS. 4532 03:32:07,520 --> 03:32:09,280 AND IMPORTANTLY, IT'S REALLY 4533 03:32:09,280 --> 03:32:10,840 WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE LONGITUDINAL 4534 03:32:10,840 --> 03:32:12,680 TIME POINTS BECAUSE NOT ONLY CAN 4535 03:32:12,680 --> 03:32:16,560 WE SORT OF HAVE THIS AND THESE 4536 03:32:16,560 --> 03:32:19,040 TWO BEGINNING AND ENDPOINTS, BUT 4537 03:32:19,040 --> 03:32:21,560 WE CAN ALSO UNCOVER NON-LINEAR 4538 03:32:21,560 --> 03:32:27,560 PATTERNS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND 4539 03:32:27,560 --> 03:32:29,160 HOW THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT 4540 03:32:29,160 --> 03:32:36,800 POINTS, IMPORTANT TO US IN KEY 4541 03:32:36,800 --> 03:32:37,200 FINDINGS. 4542 03:32:37,200 --> 03:32:39,200 I THINK ANOTHER IMPORTANT AREA, 4543 03:32:39,200 --> 03:32:40,720 THINKING ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE 4544 03:32:40,720 --> 03:32:45,200 ABLE TO SCALE UP THIS 4545 03:32:45,200 --> 03:32:46,120 NEUROIMAGING INTO CONTEXT IS 4546 03:32:46,120 --> 03:32:48,840 EXPLOSION IN THE LAST FEW YEARS 4547 03:32:48,840 --> 03:32:49,840 HOW MANY SITES HAVE STARTED 4548 03:32:49,840 --> 03:32:54,080 DOING THIS AND THE FACT THAT WE 4549 03:32:54,080 --> 03:32:55,720 HAVE MULTI-DISCIPLINARY NETWORKS 4550 03:32:55,720 --> 03:32:57,240 WORKING TOGETHER IN 4551 03:32:57,240 --> 03:32:58,440 UNDERSTANDING THE FINDINGS WE 4552 03:32:58,440 --> 03:33:03,720 HAVE, SO WE MIGHT USE THE SAME 4553 03:33:03,720 --> 03:33:11,480 PARADIGMS, SIMILAR TECHNOLOGY. 4554 03:33:11,480 --> 03:33:14,560 ONE EXAMPLE OF SEARCH ON 4555 03:33:14,560 --> 03:33:16,000 GLOBEFNIRS AS IT'S CALLED. 4556 03:33:16,000 --> 03:33:17,240 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LAUREL 4557 03:33:17,240 --> 03:33:20,320 TALKED ABOUT IN HER TALK ABOUT 4558 03:33:20,320 --> 03:33:20,720 EEG. 4559 03:33:20,720 --> 03:33:22,480 ONE OF THE KEY CHALLENGES THAT 4560 03:33:22,480 --> 03:33:25,120 WE HAVE MET WITH THIS RESEARCH 4561 03:33:25,120 --> 03:33:29,000 THAT WE'RE PROUD OF, IN A SENSE, 4562 03:33:29,000 --> 03:33:31,400 WE HAVE LOCAL EXPERTISE IN THE 4563 03:33:31,400 --> 03:33:33,080 DATA SECTION IN GAMBIA, HAVE A 4564 03:33:33,080 --> 03:33:36,080 LARGE TEAM OF RESEARCHERS IN THE 4565 03:33:36,080 --> 03:33:38,920 GAMBIA, ALL BUT ONE ARE FROM THE 4566 03:33:38,920 --> 03:33:40,720 GAMBIA, WEST AFRICA. 4567 03:33:40,720 --> 03:33:43,160 SO THEY BEEN TRAINED IN THIS 4568 03:33:43,160 --> 03:33:44,120 KIND OF TECHNOLOGY. 4569 03:33:44,120 --> 03:33:48,800 THEY KNOW HOW TO RUN THIS STUDY. 4570 03:33:48,800 --> 03:33:50,040 SO THEY LEAD THE DATA 4571 03:33:50,040 --> 03:33:50,560 COLLECTION. 4572 03:33:50,560 --> 03:33:51,680 THERE ARE CHALLENGES TO BE 4573 03:33:51,680 --> 03:33:53,760 ADDRESSED IN HOW WE SCALE THIS 4574 03:33:53,760 --> 03:33:56,160 UP, THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE, I COULD 4575 03:33:56,160 --> 03:33:57,800 GIVE TEN SLIDES OF THESE, THINGS 4576 03:33:57,800 --> 03:34:00,760 WE NEED TOE THINK ABOUT. 4577 03:34:00,760 --> 03:34:02,720 WITH YOU THING, THERE ARE 4578 03:34:02,720 --> 03:34:04,160 PRACTICAL ISSUES THAT GODWIN 4579 03:34:04,160 --> 03:34:07,200 NICELY ILLUSTRATED WITH THE 4580 03:34:07,200 --> 03:34:07,840 ELECTRICITY EXAMPLE, AND 4581 03:34:07,840 --> 03:34:09,280 CAPACITY BUILDING ISSUES WHICH 4582 03:34:09,280 --> 03:34:12,960 HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF 4583 03:34:12,960 --> 03:34:13,920 THIS BRAIN DRAIN. 4584 03:34:13,920 --> 03:34:17,480 WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE THAT CAN 4585 03:34:17,480 --> 03:34:20,560 ANALYZE DATA ON SIZE, PSYCHOLOGY 4586 03:34:20,560 --> 03:34:21,560 HAS JUST. 4587 03:34:21,560 --> 03:34:22,760 >> ONE MINUTE WARNING. 4588 03:34:22,760 --> 03:34:24,560 >> FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS YEAR 4589 03:34:24,560 --> 03:34:27,200 IN THE GAMBIA, WE MAY SEE A NEW 4590 03:34:27,200 --> 03:34:27,920 GENERATION OF RESEARCHERS THAT 4591 03:34:27,920 --> 03:34:29,480 WILL BE OUT TO DO THIS BUT WE 4592 03:34:29,480 --> 03:34:31,120 NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN 4593 03:34:31,120 --> 03:34:33,520 BUILD THIS CAPACITY. 4594 03:34:33,520 --> 03:34:34,760 WE'VE GOT RESEARCHERS 4595 03:34:34,760 --> 03:34:37,400 SPECIALIZED, TRAINING HUB IN 4596 03:34:37,400 --> 03:34:39,400 WEST AFRICA, FOR EXAMPLE, WE 4597 03:34:39,400 --> 03:34:40,320 NEED TO ACCELERATE THIS. 4598 03:34:40,320 --> 03:34:42,040 TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW I 4599 03:34:42,040 --> 03:34:46,200 THINK THE TECHNOLOGY IS RAPIDLY 4600 03:34:46,200 --> 03:34:48,920 IMPROVING, WE'RE NOW USING 4601 03:34:48,920 --> 03:34:54,520 WEARABLE FNIRs IN THE HOME, 4602 03:34:54,520 --> 03:34:56,560 IT'S CALLED LUMO, LONDON-BASED 4603 03:34:56,560 --> 03:34:56,800 COMPANY. 4604 03:34:56,800 --> 03:34:59,120 WE CAN TAKE THIS KIT INTO THE 4605 03:34:59,120 --> 03:35:00,360 HOMES, HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS 4606 03:35:00,360 --> 03:35:01,640 WATCHING IT. 4607 03:35:01,640 --> 03:35:03,480 THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR 4608 03:35:03,480 --> 03:35:05,000 ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES WHICH 4609 03:35:05,000 --> 03:35:06,760 EXIST IN HIGH-INCOME COUNTRIES 4610 03:35:06,760 --> 03:35:09,520 AS WELL BUT WE BASICALLY DO 4611 03:35:09,520 --> 03:35:11,560 RESEARCH IN URBAN POPULATIONS 4612 03:35:11,560 --> 03:35:12,520 WITH NEUROIMAGING, DON'T TAKE 4613 03:35:12,520 --> 03:35:13,360 TECHNOLOGY TO THE PEOPLE. 4614 03:35:13,360 --> 03:35:16,120 THIS IS WHAT THIS CAN DO. 4615 03:35:16,120 --> 03:35:17,920 ONE OF THE STUDIES I'M LEADING 4616 03:35:17,920 --> 03:35:21,200 TO UNDERSTAND IMPACT OF POVERTY 4617 03:35:21,200 --> 03:35:23,160 ON BRAIN DEVELOPMENT IN RURAL 4618 03:35:23,160 --> 03:35:25,000 CONTEXT, IN AREAS WHERE YOU 4619 03:35:25,000 --> 03:35:27,960 DON'T GET PEOPLE TO COME INTO 4620 03:35:27,960 --> 03:35:31,480 YOUR RESEARCH, ALSO IN THE 4621 03:35:31,480 --> 03:35:35,920 HOSPITALS, AND A FINAL EXAMPLE, 4622 03:35:35,920 --> 03:35:37,520 THIS WEARABLE FNIRs AND THE 4623 03:35:37,520 --> 03:35:40,560 WORK BEFORE US IS NOW ENABLING 4624 03:35:40,560 --> 03:35:42,760 US TO INTO INTERVENTIONS, THIS 4625 03:35:42,760 --> 03:35:44,760 IS NOT ME, LED BY A COLLEAGUE IN 4626 03:35:44,760 --> 03:35:47,600 THE GAMBIA, NOW USING THIS TO 4627 03:35:47,600 --> 03:35:49,080 ASSESS OUTCOME, MEASURING THE 4628 03:35:49,080 --> 03:35:51,720 BRAIN WILL HELP US REVEAL 4629 03:35:51,720 --> 03:35:53,840 PROCESSES UNDERLYING POVERTY WE 4630 03:35:53,840 --> 03:35:55,320 MAY NOT HAVE AN ABLE TO SEE 4631 03:35:55,320 --> 03:35:56,800 UNTIL LATER IN LIFE WITH 4632 03:35:56,800 --> 03:35:58,080 BEHAVIORAL MEASURES. 4633 03:35:58,080 --> 03:36:00,560 SO REALLY THERE'S A LOT OF 4634 03:36:00,560 --> 03:36:01,320 AVENUES FOR THIS TECHNOLOGY TO 4635 03:36:01,320 --> 03:36:04,600 START TO BE USED. 4636 03:36:04,600 --> 03:36:07,400 IT'S ACCELERATING RAPIDLY. 4637 03:36:07,400 --> 03:36:10,320 THANK YOU SO MUCH, GODWIN. 4638 03:36:10,320 --> 03:36:16,640 >> THANK YOU, SARAH, FOR THE 4639 03:36:16,640 --> 03:36:18,560 LOVELY TALK. 4640 03:36:18,560 --> 03:36:24,040 WE'LL MOVE QUICKLY TO THE NEXT 4641 03:36:24,040 --> 03:36:36,040 SPEAKER, JOSEPH CULVER, Ph.D., 4642 03:36:36,040 --> 03:36:38,040 PROFESSOR AT WASHINGTON 4643 03:36:38,040 --> 03:36:40,760 UNIVERSITY IN ST. LOUIS, USA, HE 4644 03:36:40,760 --> 03:36:43,320 HAS THIS GROUP WHERE HE HAS 4645 03:36:43,320 --> 03:36:52,280 DEVELOPED IMPROVEMENTS TO HIGH 4646 03:36:52,280 --> 03:36:55,880 DENSITY DIFFUSE OPTICAL 4647 03:36:55,880 --> 03:37:08,720 TOMOGRAPHY. 4648 03:37:08,720 --> 03:37:11,800 JOSEPH, GO AHEAD. 4649 03:37:11,800 --> 03:37:17,040 >> THANK YOU FOR THE PROMISE TO 4650 03:37:17,040 --> 03:37:18,480 SPEAK AND INTRODUCING fNIRS. 4651 03:37:18,480 --> 03:37:22,720 CAN IT ACT AS A PROXY FOR 4652 03:37:22,720 --> 03:37:22,920 fMRI? 4653 03:37:22,920 --> 03:37:26,480 IN ANSWER I MAKE THE CASE FOR A 4654 03:37:26,480 --> 03:37:30,360 QUALIFIED YES, DEPENDS ON WHICH 4655 03:37:30,360 --> 03:37:35,520 TASK AND WHICH FNIRs SYSTEM. 4656 03:37:35,520 --> 03:37:41,160 IMAGINE WE WANTED TO IMAGE THE 4657 03:37:41,160 --> 03:37:41,880 AUDITORY RESPONSE VERSUS 4658 03:37:41,880 --> 03:37:45,560 LANGUAGE RESPONSE ON THE LEFT. 4659 03:37:45,560 --> 03:37:47,120 REGIONS ARE SEPARATED BY 15 4660 03:37:47,120 --> 03:37:49,920 MILLIMETERS OR MAYBE WE WANT TO 4661 03:37:49,920 --> 03:37:52,360 SEPARATE THE FRONTAL PARIETAL 4662 03:37:52,360 --> 03:37:54,360 NETWORKS FROM DORSAL ATTENTION, 4663 03:37:54,360 --> 03:37:56,320 FROM THE RIGHT. 4664 03:37:56,320 --> 03:37:59,160 THESE LOCATIONS ARE SEPARATED BY 4665 03:37:59,160 --> 03:38:00,000 15 MILLIMETERS. 4666 03:38:00,000 --> 03:38:03,160 IT'S OBVIOUS THE QUALITY OF THE 4667 03:38:03,160 --> 03:38:04,720 COGNITIVE ASSESSMENT BY fNIRS 4668 03:38:04,720 --> 03:38:09,840 WILL DEPEND ON RESOLUTION AND 4669 03:38:09,840 --> 03:38:16,560 FIELD OF VIEW OF SYSTEM. 4670 03:38:16,560 --> 03:38:18,800 YOU'LL NEED 15-MILLIMETER 4671 03:38:18,800 --> 03:38:20,360 RESOLUTION. 4672 03:38:20,360 --> 03:38:22,280 WITH MODERN HIGH DENSITY 4673 03:38:22,280 --> 03:38:25,240 fNIRS, DIFFUSE OPTICAL 4674 03:38:25,240 --> 03:38:28,840 TOMOGRAPHY, CAN PROVIDE FOR 4675 03:38:28,840 --> 03:38:30,800 DETAILED TASKS LIKE RETINA 4676 03:38:30,800 --> 03:38:31,680 MAPPING. 4677 03:38:31,680 --> 03:38:34,400 ON THE RIGHT SWEEPING FIELD OF 4678 03:38:34,400 --> 03:38:40,040 VIEW, THE HD-DO THE MAPS CAN 4679 03:38:40,040 --> 03:38:42,440 TRACK CORTICAL RESPONSE. 4680 03:38:42,440 --> 03:38:44,200 HIGH DENSITY IMAGING SYSTEMS USE 4681 03:38:44,200 --> 03:38:44,880 DENSE OVERLAPPING PATTERNS THAT 4682 03:38:44,880 --> 03:38:49,560 YOU SEE ON THE LEFT. 4683 03:38:49,560 --> 03:38:51,200 IF YOU DON'T USE HIGH DENSITY 4684 03:38:51,200 --> 03:38:52,920 THINGS DON'T WORK AS WELL. 4685 03:38:52,920 --> 03:38:55,920 IN PANEL B YOU SEE A MAP OF 4686 03:38:55,920 --> 03:38:58,720 AUDITORY CORTEX BUT IN PANEL C, 4687 03:38:58,720 --> 03:39:01,160 D, E, WITH SPARSE ARRAYS WE CAN 4688 03:39:01,160 --> 03:39:04,120 EXTRACT FROM THE FULL DENSITY 4689 03:39:04,120 --> 03:39:08,040 ARRAY MEASUREMENTS, WE END UP 4690 03:39:08,040 --> 03:39:10,040 WITH MORE ARTIFACTS, THEY CHANGE 4691 03:39:10,040 --> 03:39:12,040 LOCATION AND STRENGTH BASED ON 4692 03:39:12,040 --> 03:39:16,560 WHICH SPARSE ARRAY IS USED. 4693 03:39:16,560 --> 03:39:19,840 SO HIGH DENSITY RAYS CAN MAP NOT 4694 03:39:19,840 --> 03:39:23,880 ONLY TASKS AND NETWORKS LIKE 4695 03:39:23,880 --> 03:39:26,600 THESE THREE, AND AGAIN WE CAN 4696 03:39:26,600 --> 03:39:29,720 ANALYZE SENSITIVITY OF THESE 4697 03:39:29,720 --> 03:39:31,480 NETWORK MAPS TO SEE LOCATION AND 4698 03:39:31,480 --> 03:39:32,920 THEY FLIP FROM ONE NETWORK TO 4699 03:39:32,920 --> 03:39:36,800 ANOTHER NETWORK IF WE MOVE TO 4700 03:39:36,800 --> 03:39:39,800 SEED LOCATION BY 15 MILLIMETERS. 4701 03:39:39,800 --> 03:39:44,080 NOW, THERE'S A HUGE DRAWBACK TO 4702 03:39:44,080 --> 03:39:46,600 HIGH DENSITY IMAGING ARRAYS, 4703 03:39:46,600 --> 03:39:51,840 THESE TRADITIONAL FIBEROPTIC 4704 03:39:51,840 --> 03:39:54,560 SYSTEMS ARE BIG. 4705 03:39:54,560 --> 03:39:57,960 THIS NULLIFIES MAIN REASONS TO 4706 03:39:57,960 --> 03:40:00,480 USE fNIRS OVER fMRI. 4707 03:40:00,480 --> 03:40:02,360 THERE'S BEEN A DRAMATIC 4708 03:40:02,360 --> 03:40:07,920 IMPROVEMENT IN WEAR ANALYSIS 4709 03:40:07,920 --> 03:40:09,960 ITEMS, THESE SYSTEMS ARE PUTTING 4710 03:40:09,960 --> 03:40:11,640 ELECTRONICS ON THE HEAD, 4711 03:40:11,640 --> 03:40:13,160 COMPUTATIONS OF ENCODING AND 4712 03:40:13,160 --> 03:40:16,640 DECODING OF SOURCES FROM THE 4713 03:40:16,640 --> 03:40:18,920 DETECTOR SIGNALS. 4714 03:40:18,920 --> 03:40:21,360 THESE DECREASED BY A 4715 03:40:21,360 --> 03:40:21,680 HUNDRED-FOLD. 4716 03:40:21,680 --> 03:40:22,320 THE FIRST COMMERCIAL SYSTEM IS 4717 03:40:22,320 --> 03:40:29,080 ONE OF THE FIRST COMMERCIAL 4718 03:40:29,080 --> 03:40:30,920 SYSTEMS, THE GOWERLABS THAT 4719 03:40:30,920 --> 03:40:35,320 SARAH MENTIONED, AND OUR WASHU 4720 03:40:35,320 --> 03:40:35,720 SPIN. 4721 03:40:35,720 --> 03:40:37,920 THESE ARE OVERCOME THE PREVIOUS 4722 03:40:37,920 --> 03:40:40,560 CONFLICT BETWEEN IMAGE QUALITY 4723 03:40:40,560 --> 03:40:41,960 AND WEARABILITY. 4724 03:40:41,960 --> 03:40:44,240 THERE'S PLENTY OF ENGINEERING 4725 03:40:44,240 --> 03:40:45,560 LEFT, LARGELY A MATTER OF TIME 4726 03:40:45,560 --> 03:40:47,560 UNTIL THEY MEET ALL THE SAME 4727 03:40:47,560 --> 03:40:50,360 IMAGE QUALITY METRICS AS 4728 03:40:50,360 --> 03:40:51,240 FIBER-BASED SYSTEMS. 4729 03:40:51,240 --> 03:40:58,680 SO FLOWS BY BRINGING -- I'LL 4730 03:40:58,680 --> 03:41:00,200 CLOSE, I BELIEVE WE'LL NEED 4731 03:41:00,200 --> 03:41:01,760 WHOLE FIELDS OF VIEW FOR LARGE 4732 03:41:01,760 --> 03:41:03,480 POPULATION STUDIES. 4733 03:41:03,480 --> 03:41:05,920 WHOLE HEAD SYSTEMS WILL BE 4734 03:41:05,920 --> 03:41:07,640 SCALABLE, PROBABLY MORE SCALABLE 4735 03:41:07,640 --> 03:41:10,160 THAN ISOLATED PATCHES TO LARGE 4736 03:41:10,160 --> 03:41:12,160 POPULATION STUDIES. 4737 03:41:12,160 --> 03:41:12,800 WE'LL NEED ACCURATE 4738 03:41:12,800 --> 03:41:14,880 CO-REGISTRATION, WE'RE GOING TO 4739 03:41:14,880 --> 03:41:18,200 NEED VALIDATED PACKAGES THAT 4740 03:41:18,200 --> 03:41:21,480 COMBINE SYSTEM, PARADIGM, 4741 03:41:21,480 --> 03:41:21,800 ANALYSIS. 4742 03:41:21,800 --> 03:41:25,680 AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO 4743 03:41:25,680 --> 03:41:28,120 NEED TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE. 4744 03:41:28,120 --> 03:41:29,560 SARAH WAS POINTING TO SOME OF 4745 03:41:29,560 --> 03:41:35,000 THOSE TYPES OF STUDIES BEGINNING 4746 03:41:35,000 --> 03:41:36,920 TO HAPPEN, IT'S IRONIC THE 4747 03:41:36,920 --> 03:41:38,280 GLOBAL HEALTH PROJECTS THAT ARE 4748 03:41:38,280 --> 03:41:44,520 PIONEERING THAT IN OUR FIELD. 4749 03:41:44,520 --> 03:41:46,040 SO, BASICALLY TO ADDRESS THESE 4750 03:41:46,040 --> 03:41:47,920 OPPORTUNITIES THERE'S STILL MANY 4751 03:41:47,920 --> 03:41:49,320 SYSTEMS NEEDS, I DON'T HAVE TIME 4752 03:41:49,320 --> 03:41:56,080 TO GO OVER DESIGN DETAILS BUT WE 4753 03:41:56,080 --> 03:41:57,640 NEED TO SIMULTANEOUSLY OPTIMIZE 4754 03:41:57,640 --> 03:41:59,560 THE MEASUREMENT DENSITY, WEIGHT. 4755 03:41:59,560 --> 03:42:04,000 >> ONE MINUTE LEFT. 4756 03:42:04,000 --> 03:42:05,120 >> ERGONOMICS, COST, POWER, 4757 03:42:05,120 --> 03:42:05,760 HEAT, DATA. 4758 03:42:05,760 --> 03:42:07,800 THIS IS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE 4759 03:42:07,800 --> 03:42:14,160 ANOTHER REALLY LARGE TASK, BUT 4760 03:42:14,160 --> 03:42:17,080 THE DEVICES, FOLLOWING ON 4761 03:42:17,080 --> 03:42:20,160 COMMENT FROM YESTERDAY, DEVICES 4762 03:42:20,160 --> 03:42:22,480 LIKE SMARTPHONES DRIVE ADVANCES 4763 03:42:22,480 --> 03:42:23,200 IN MINIATURIZED ELECTRONICS, YOU 4764 03:42:23,200 --> 03:42:27,480 CAN TAKE THE FACT THAT fNIRS 4765 03:42:27,480 --> 03:42:29,960 DROPS WEIGHT BY TWO ORDERS OF 4766 03:42:29,960 --> 03:42:31,040 MAGNITUDE IN SIX YEARS, 4767 03:42:31,040 --> 03:42:32,360 REASONABLE TO BELIEVE THESE 4768 03:42:32,360 --> 03:42:35,160 BROAD TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES CAN BE 4769 03:42:35,160 --> 03:42:37,160 LEVERAGED TO ADDRESS THESE 4770 03:42:37,160 --> 03:42:38,040 OPPORTUNITIES. 4771 03:42:38,040 --> 03:42:39,560 I'LL CLOSE BY MAKING 4772 03:42:39,560 --> 03:42:43,160 ACKNOWLEDGMENTS AND THANKS TO 4773 03:42:43,160 --> 03:42:45,560 FUNDING SOURCES. 4774 03:42:45,560 --> 03:42:48,040 >> THANK YOU, JOSEPH, FOR A 4775 03:42:48,040 --> 03:42:54,280 BEAUTIFUL TALK. 4776 03:42:54,280 --> 03:43:07,280 WE MOVE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, 4777 03:43:07,280 --> 03:43:08,720 ANDREW WEBB, POSTDOC IN 4778 03:43:08,720 --> 03:43:20,800 DEPARTMENT OF RADIOLOGY. 4779 03:43:20,800 --> 03:43:21,760 DR. WEBB, PROFESSOR WEBB, I 4780 03:43:21,760 --> 03:43:24,040 WELCOME YOU TO GIVE YOUR TALK. 4781 03:43:24,040 --> 03:43:24,520 THANK YOU. 4782 03:43:24,520 --> 03:43:25,760 >> THANKS VERY MUCH, GODWIN. 4783 03:43:25,760 --> 03:43:29,760 I WANT TO START BY CONTINUING 4784 03:43:29,760 --> 03:43:31,320 ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU SAID IN 4785 03:43:31,320 --> 03:43:34,960 YOUR INTRODUCTION ABOUT LOW 4786 03:43:34,960 --> 03:43:35,960 FIELD MRI. 4787 03:43:35,960 --> 03:43:39,760 I LIKED THE ANALOGY WITH THE 4788 03:43:39,760 --> 03:43:40,920 BEETLE, MY FIRST CAR. 4789 03:43:40,920 --> 03:43:43,800 IT GOES FROM POINT A TO POINT B, 4790 03:43:43,800 --> 03:43:50,920 IT'S GOT THREE MOVING PARTS, 4791 03:43:50,920 --> 03:43:52,080 BRAKES, EASIER TO FIX, SAME 4792 03:43:52,080 --> 03:43:54,520 THING IN TERMS OF DESIGNING AN 4793 03:43:54,520 --> 03:43:58,160 MRI SYSTEM. 4794 03:43:58,160 --> 03:43:59,080 THERE'S THIS MASSIVE DISCREPANCY 4795 03:43:59,080 --> 03:44:04,920 IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER OF MRI 4796 03:44:04,920 --> 03:44:05,920 UNITS AVAILABLE. 4797 03:44:05,920 --> 03:44:08,720 EVERYONE THINKS OF COST, IT'S AN 4798 03:44:08,720 --> 03:44:09,840 IMPORTANT ISSUE BUT THERE ARE 4799 03:44:09,840 --> 03:44:12,000 MANY OTHER ISSUES TO ADDRESS IF 4800 03:44:12,000 --> 03:44:12,960 WE MAKE SOMETHING ACCESSIBLE. 4801 03:44:12,960 --> 03:44:15,400 ONE IS THE FACT THAT IT COSTS A 4802 03:44:15,400 --> 03:44:16,360 LOT TO MAINTAIN. 4803 03:44:16,360 --> 03:44:20,080 IF YOU TAKE ONE OF THESE 4804 03:44:20,080 --> 03:44:20,960 SYSTEMS, YOU REALLY NEED A 4805 03:44:20,960 --> 03:44:23,320 HIGHLY CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT TO 4806 03:44:23,320 --> 03:44:25,600 PUT IT IN, YOU NEED SUPPLIES 4807 03:44:25,600 --> 03:44:26,560 THAT OTHER PEOPLE MENTIONED, 4808 03:44:26,560 --> 03:44:29,760 HAVE TO BE RELIABLE, LOTS OF 4809 03:44:29,760 --> 03:44:30,320 THINGS. 4810 03:44:30,320 --> 03:44:31,720 YOU ALSO NEED VERY EXTENSIVE 4811 03:44:31,720 --> 03:44:33,000 TRAINING FOR YOUR PERSONNEL. 4812 03:44:33,000 --> 03:44:34,160 WE HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THESE 4813 03:44:34,160 --> 03:44:44,360 ISSUES IF WE'RE GOING TO 4814 03:44:44,360 --> 03:44:51,360 INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY. 4815 03:44:51,360 --> 03:44:52,760 IN TERMS OF PEDIATRICS, MRIs 4816 03:44:52,760 --> 03:44:54,560 ARE HORRIBLE, THEY ARE LOAD. 4817 03:44:54,560 --> 03:44:57,160 LOW FIELD SYSTEM CAN BE SILENT. 4818 03:44:57,160 --> 03:44:58,880 IF WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE 4819 03:44:58,880 --> 03:45:03,280 NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN HAVE 4820 03:45:03,280 --> 03:45:04,720 SCANS CONTRAINDICATIONS SUCH AS 4821 03:45:04,720 --> 03:45:06,480 MEDICAL IMPLANTS, ALMOST ALL ARE 4822 03:45:06,480 --> 03:45:08,800 SAFE AS LOW FIELD. 4823 03:45:08,800 --> 03:45:12,360 HERE IS A SPINAL SCREW HERE, IT 4824 03:45:12,360 --> 03:45:13,960 DOESN'T CAUSE ARTIFACTS. 4825 03:45:13,960 --> 03:45:16,080 SO OVERALL WHAT THIS MEANS IS 4826 03:45:16,080 --> 03:45:18,160 WE'VE GOT MUCH HIGHER 4827 03:45:18,160 --> 03:45:18,520 ACCESSIBILITY. 4828 03:45:18,520 --> 03:45:23,200 SO THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE 4829 03:45:23,200 --> 03:45:24,600 DESIGNED, FOR PEDIATRIC 4830 03:45:24,600 --> 03:45:27,280 HYDROCEPHALUS, WORKING WITH 4831 03:45:27,280 --> 03:45:30,160 COLLEAGUES IN UGANDA TO BUILD 4832 03:45:30,160 --> 03:45:31,320 ONE THIS COMING SUMMER, I'M 4833 03:45:31,320 --> 03:45:34,760 SHOWING THIS WITH A LAB 4834 03:45:34,760 --> 03:45:36,560 VOLUNTEER, IT FITS ON A CART, 4835 03:45:36,560 --> 03:45:38,640 MOVES AROUND AS SARAH SAID, IT'S 4836 03:45:38,640 --> 03:45:41,720 A WAY OF BRINGING THE IMAGING 4837 03:45:41,720 --> 03:45:42,360 APPARATUS TO THE POPULATION 4838 03:45:42,360 --> 03:45:49,280 RATHER THAN THE OTHER WAY 4839 03:45:49,280 --> 03:45:49,600 AROUND. 4840 03:45:49,600 --> 03:45:53,720 ONE KEY THING TO MAKE IT 4841 03:45:53,720 --> 03:45:58,360 SUSTAINABLE AND MODULAR, THIS IS 4842 03:45:58,360 --> 03:46:01,200 NOT EXPENSIVE TOOLS, READILY 4843 03:46:01,200 --> 03:46:01,760 AVAILABLE MATERIALS. 4844 03:46:01,760 --> 03:46:05,800 A LOT OF 3D PRINTING. 4845 03:46:05,800 --> 03:46:06,520 AND BASIC ELECTRONICS, 4846 03:46:06,520 --> 03:46:07,760 EVERYTHING IS OPEN SOURCE. 4847 03:46:07,760 --> 03:46:10,920 ANYBODY CAN GO IN HERE, TAKE A 4848 03:46:10,920 --> 03:46:13,120 LOOK, THEY HAVE THE SCHEMATICS 4849 03:46:13,120 --> 03:46:14,760 TRYING TO FIX EVERYTHING. 4850 03:46:14,760 --> 03:46:16,200 IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK OFTEN 4851 03:46:16,200 --> 03:46:18,160 YOU HAVE COMPANIES AND MAKING 4852 03:46:18,160 --> 03:46:21,720 THIS EQUIPMENT, IF YOU UPGRADE, 4853 03:46:21,720 --> 03:46:24,000 IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU HAVE TO 4854 03:46:24,000 --> 03:46:31,200 CALL THEM IN FOR SERVICING. 4855 03:46:31,200 --> 03:46:33,520 EVERYTHING IS OPEN SOURCE, DONE 4856 03:46:33,520 --> 03:46:34,760 IN PYTHON. 4857 03:46:34,760 --> 03:46:35,800 ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT CAN GET 4858 03:46:35,800 --> 03:46:38,360 INVOLVED. 4859 03:46:38,360 --> 03:46:41,000 IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE REALISTIC 4860 03:46:41,000 --> 03:46:41,960 PHANTOMS FOR TRAINING. 4861 03:46:41,960 --> 03:46:44,920 WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF SEQUENCES, 4862 03:46:44,920 --> 03:46:46,600 PLAYING WITH PARAMETERS, NOT 4863 03:46:46,600 --> 03:46:48,160 JUST SCANNING BUT TO UNDERSTAND 4864 03:46:48,160 --> 03:46:53,400 THE ENTIRE PROCESS. 4865 03:46:53,400 --> 03:46:57,880 USING THESE SYSTEMS, MAYBE 1%, 4866 03:46:57,880 --> 03:46:59,600 YOU'RE NOT EXPECTS SAME IMAGE 4867 03:46:59,600 --> 03:47:02,160 QUALITY BUT EACH SCAN IS FIVE 4868 03:47:02,160 --> 03:47:02,680 MINUTES, GIVING ENOUGH 4869 03:47:02,680 --> 03:47:04,560 INFORMATION TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, 4870 03:47:04,560 --> 03:47:08,400 WHITE MATTER, GRAY MATTER, CSF, 4871 03:47:08,400 --> 03:47:09,720 SEGMENTATION, IN DEVELOPMENTAL 4872 03:47:09,720 --> 03:47:13,840 STUDIES, BUT ALSO CLINICAL 4873 03:47:13,840 --> 03:47:15,080 APPLICATIONS LIKE HYDROCEPHALUS 4874 03:47:15,080 --> 03:47:16,360 WHERE THE CSF IS IMPORTANT. 4875 03:47:16,360 --> 03:47:20,760 HOW GOOD IS GOOD ENOUGH? 4876 03:47:20,760 --> 03:47:25,880 WITH 1% TO GET THE SAME IMAGE 4877 03:47:25,880 --> 03:47:29,880 QUALITY FROM 3D, FILTERED WITH 4878 03:47:29,880 --> 03:47:32,040 DISORGANIZATION DIRECTION, TAKEN 4879 03:47:32,040 --> 03:47:34,240 IN ONE MINUTE ON A LOW FIELD 4880 03:47:34,240 --> 03:47:34,480 SCANNER. 4881 03:47:34,480 --> 03:47:37,320 IF YOU LOOK AT THE INFORMATION, 4882 03:47:37,320 --> 03:47:40,280 THIS IS IN COLLABORATORS WORKING 4883 03:47:40,280 --> 03:47:42,920 IN THE STATES HERE, QUALITY MAY 4884 03:47:42,920 --> 03:47:44,960 BE WORSE, OFTEN YOU CAN GET THE 4885 03:47:44,960 --> 03:47:46,280 SAME AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT 4886 03:47:46,280 --> 03:47:48,800 YOU NEED FROM A CLINICAL POINT 4887 03:47:48,800 --> 03:47:49,560 OF VIEW. 4888 03:47:49,560 --> 03:47:52,040 AN IMPORTANT THING AS WE MOVE 4889 03:47:52,040 --> 03:47:54,160 FORWARD IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOOD 4890 03:47:54,160 --> 03:48:02,080 ENOUGH FOR THE TASK YOU'RE 4891 03:48:02,080 --> 03:48:10,120 INTERESTED IN THANK YOU. 4892 03:48:10,120 --> 03:48:12,560 >> THANK YOU, ANDREW. 4893 03:48:12,560 --> 03:48:22,720 WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, 4894 03:48:22,720 --> 03:48:24,000 ROSALYN MORAN, COMPUTATIONAL 4895 03:48:24,000 --> 03:48:27,080 NEUROSCIENCE, UNDERSTANDING 4896 03:48:27,080 --> 03:48:29,160 PRINCIPLES OF BRAIN FUNCTION, IN 4897 03:48:29,160 --> 03:48:30,400 PARTICULAR TECHNIQUES TO 4898 03:48:30,400 --> 03:48:43,680 UNDERSTAND AND TREAT PSYCHIATRIC 4899 03:48:43,680 --> 03:48:44,360 DISORDERS. 4900 03:48:44,360 --> 03:48:46,920 I WANT TO WELCOME ROSALYN. 4901 03:48:46,920 --> 03:48:50,560 >> THANK YOU. 4902 03:48:50,560 --> 03:48:54,480 I'LL CONTINUE THE BEETLE AND 4903 03:48:54,480 --> 03:48:56,960 BENTLEY DISCUSSION, LOW FIELD 4904 03:48:56,960 --> 03:48:59,080 MRI, ANALYTICAL METHODS AND 4905 03:48:59,080 --> 03:49:01,040 MODELING IF DEPLOYED WITH THIS 4906 03:49:01,040 --> 03:49:03,120 TECHNOLOGY MIGHT IMPROVE HOW 4907 03:49:03,120 --> 03:49:07,840 THIS ACCESSIBLE AND RELATIVELY 4908 03:49:07,840 --> 03:49:10,560 INEXPENSIVE CAN ADDRESS GAPS IN 4909 03:49:10,560 --> 03:49:13,160 PHENOTYPING AND DIAGNOSTICS AND 4910 03:49:13,160 --> 03:49:13,480 PROGNOSTICS. 4911 03:49:13,480 --> 03:49:14,720 THE PARTICULAR MACHINE WE'RE 4912 03:49:14,720 --> 03:49:22,760 TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE HYPER 4913 03:49:22,760 --> 03:49:24,200 FINE, KINGS COLLEGE, GATES 4914 03:49:24,200 --> 03:49:26,280 FOUNDATION, WE WANT TO ASK AS 4915 03:49:26,280 --> 03:49:28,440 MODELERS WHETHER WE CAN DEVELOP 4916 03:49:28,440 --> 03:49:33,360 RELIABLE METRICS AT LOW COST AND 4917 03:49:33,360 --> 03:49:36,560 TRANSFORM LOW COST IMAGING INTO 4918 03:49:36,560 --> 03:49:38,760 RELIABLE PROGNOSTIC MARKERS OR 4919 03:49:38,760 --> 03:49:40,280 MARKERS OF DEVELOPMENT. 4920 03:49:40,280 --> 03:49:43,640 TOP LEFT IS THE DISTINCT 4921 03:49:43,640 --> 03:49:46,160 DIMENSIONS MODELING CAN OFFER TO 4922 03:49:46,160 --> 03:49:48,480 TRANSFORMING THESE LOW FIELD 4923 03:49:48,480 --> 03:49:48,720 IMAGES. 4924 03:49:48,720 --> 03:49:50,760 SO, THE ONE YOU'VE HEARD OF IS 4925 03:49:50,760 --> 03:49:53,720 ON THE Y-AXIS, WHICH IS KNOWN AS 4926 03:49:53,720 --> 03:49:55,920 INFORMATION QUALITY TRANSFER, 4927 03:49:55,920 --> 03:49:57,680 IMAGE QUALITY TRANSFER, IQT, 4928 03:49:57,680 --> 03:49:59,920 IMPROVES RESOLUTION OF IMAGES, 4929 03:49:59,920 --> 03:50:03,680 ALSO WE HAVE OTHER TOOLS IN OUR 4930 03:50:03,680 --> 03:50:05,000 ARMAMENTARIUM FROM COMPUTATIONAL 4931 03:50:05,000 --> 03:50:06,080 NEUROSCIENCE THAT MAY DERIVE 4932 03:50:06,080 --> 03:50:11,160 METRICS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE 4933 03:50:11,160 --> 03:50:12,560 RELIABLE BIOMARKERS AND USEFUL 4934 03:50:12,560 --> 03:50:18,600 FOR CLINICAL QUESTION. 4935 03:50:18,600 --> 03:50:22,160 AND MULTI-MODALITIES, WE SHOULD 4936 03:50:22,160 --> 03:50:24,200 HAVE fNIRS, MODELING MIGHT BE 4937 03:50:24,200 --> 03:50:27,320 THE GLUE THAT HOLDS THEM 4938 03:50:27,320 --> 03:50:30,400 TOGETHER. 4939 03:50:30,400 --> 03:50:33,280 IQT IS FAIRLY NASCENT, TO GO 4940 03:50:33,280 --> 03:50:37,400 FROM CT AND CLINICAL GRADE SCANS 4941 03:50:37,400 --> 03:50:42,120 TO HIGHER LEVEL RESEARCH SCANS, 4942 03:50:42,120 --> 03:50:43,680 DEVELOPED FOR IMAGES, IF WE CAN 4943 03:50:43,680 --> 03:50:48,360 INCREASE RESOLUTION OF THE SCAN 4944 03:50:48,360 --> 03:50:51,920 WE CAN ALSO HARNESS THE OMICS 4945 03:50:51,920 --> 03:50:53,000 DEVELOPMENT IN MODELING, FROM 4946 03:50:53,000 --> 03:50:56,400 REGIONAL TISSUE PROPERTIES TO 4947 03:50:56,400 --> 03:50:58,160 CONNECTIVITY, POTENTIALLY TO 4948 03:50:58,160 --> 03:50:58,920 PSEUDOFUNCTIONAL MEASURES 4949 03:50:58,920 --> 03:50:59,720 THROUGH COMPUTATIONAL MODELS. 4950 03:50:59,720 --> 03:51:01,400 AND IT MIGHT BE TEMPTING TO 4951 03:51:01,400 --> 03:51:02,960 THINK THE FURTHER UP INTO THE 4952 03:51:02,960 --> 03:51:06,480 RIGHT WE GO THE MORE RELIABLE 4953 03:51:06,480 --> 03:51:08,720 AND USEFUL THESE PREDICTORS ARE 4954 03:51:08,720 --> 03:51:11,280 IN TERMS OF AUC. 4955 03:51:11,280 --> 03:51:13,160 HOWEVER, I THINK DEVELOPING THE 4956 03:51:13,160 --> 03:51:16,080 RELIABILITY AND ESTABLISHING 4957 03:51:16,080 --> 03:51:16,880 VALIDITY OF THESE PIPELINES IS 4958 03:51:16,880 --> 03:51:19,280 GOING TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY 4959 03:51:19,280 --> 03:51:19,480 TIME. 4960 03:51:19,480 --> 03:51:23,880 WE MAY WANT TO ATTACK DIFFERENT 4961 03:51:23,880 --> 03:51:28,160 PARTS DEPENDING ON OUR QUESTION. 4962 03:51:28,160 --> 03:51:33,760 WHAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER IS ERATTA 4963 03:51:33,760 --> 03:51:36,520 AND FOCUS ON QUESTION-DRIVEN 4964 03:51:36,520 --> 03:51:38,760 MODELING. 4965 03:51:38,760 --> 03:51:41,040 FOR EXAMPLE, BRAIN INJURY WITH 4966 03:51:41,040 --> 03:51:44,240 FRANK PATHOLOGY WE MAY BE 4967 03:51:44,240 --> 03:51:46,360 INTERESTED IN MACROSCOPIC TISSUE 4968 03:51:46,360 --> 03:51:47,960 PROPERTIES, AND POTENTIALLY 4969 03:51:47,960 --> 03:51:51,680 USING IQT TO IMPROVE RESOLUTION. 4970 03:51:51,680 --> 03:51:54,200 WE'VE USED A PREVIOUSLY 4971 03:51:54,200 --> 03:51:56,920 PUBLISHED SUPER RESOLUTION 4972 03:51:56,920 --> 03:51:58,680 MODEL, AND COMPARED HYPER FINE 4973 03:51:58,680 --> 03:52:01,640 SCANS OF SMALLER SAMPLES TO 4974 03:52:01,640 --> 03:52:03,160 EQUIVALENT MATCH DATA FROM 4975 03:52:03,160 --> 03:52:05,240 SIEMENS AND G.E. SCANNERS, IN 4976 03:52:05,240 --> 03:52:08,200 SOME CASES YOU GET ALMOST 4977 03:52:08,200 --> 03:52:10,080 PERFECT PREDICTIONS OF GRAY 4978 03:52:10,080 --> 03:52:12,840 MATTER VOLUME USING IQT THAT 4979 03:52:12,840 --> 03:52:14,080 MATCHED IDENTITY TO THE HIGH 4980 03:52:14,080 --> 03:52:14,640 FIELD SCANS. 4981 03:52:14,640 --> 03:52:16,840 HOWEVER YOU CAN SEE IN SOME 4982 03:52:16,840 --> 03:52:19,600 SCANS, THIS ISN'T THE CASE AND 4983 03:52:19,600 --> 03:52:22,160 PREDICTIONS ARE LESS ACCURATE. 4984 03:52:22,160 --> 03:52:24,840 WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT THICK SLICE 4985 03:52:24,840 --> 03:52:28,280 CLINICAL SCANS WHERE PATIENTS 4986 03:52:28,280 --> 03:52:31,560 HAD STROKE AND PASSED THROUGH 4987 03:52:31,560 --> 03:52:34,280 AND SHOWN IN 66% OF 30 OR SO 4988 03:52:34,280 --> 03:52:38,520 SCANS WE SEE TISSUE INFILL, 4989 03:52:38,520 --> 03:52:39,160 GETTING BASICALLY HALLUCINATING 4990 03:52:39,160 --> 03:52:42,360 GRAY MATTER WHERE WE SHOULD BE 4991 03:52:42,360 --> 03:52:44,280 IN STROKE PENUMBRA. 4992 03:52:44,280 --> 03:52:46,160 INTERIM CONCLUSION MAY WANT TO 4993 03:52:46,160 --> 03:52:49,280 USE SOME OF THE BAYESIAN 4994 03:52:49,280 --> 03:52:50,160 TECHNIQUES USED SUCCESSFULLY 4995 03:52:50,160 --> 03:52:53,600 ALONG THIS AXIS TO IMPROVE THIS 4996 03:52:53,600 --> 03:52:54,320 ACCESS, AND GIVE RELIABILITY 4997 03:52:54,320 --> 03:52:59,560 MEASURES SO THINGS LIKE MODEL 4998 03:52:59,560 --> 03:53:00,560 SELECTION AND MODEL COMPARISON 4999 03:53:00,560 --> 03:53:02,520 AT THE OUTPUT SIDE OF THE MODEL 5000 03:53:02,520 --> 03:53:03,840 BUT ALSO QUALITY CONTROL 5001 03:53:03,840 --> 03:53:06,520 MEASURES AT THE INPUT SIDE TO 5002 03:53:06,520 --> 03:53:08,320 SEE WHETHER THESE SUPER 5003 03:53:08,320 --> 03:53:10,920 RESOLUTION TECHNIQUES ARE 5004 03:53:10,920 --> 03:53:11,600 RELIABLE. 5005 03:53:11,600 --> 03:53:13,240 IF WE'RE INTERESTED MORE AS A 5006 03:53:13,240 --> 03:53:16,320 COHORT LEVEL, WE WANT TO LOOK AT 5007 03:53:16,320 --> 03:53:17,960 STATISTICAL TRENDS IN WHITE 5008 03:53:17,960 --> 03:53:21,240 MATTER OR GRAY MATTER TISSUE 5009 03:53:21,240 --> 03:53:22,880 VOLUME OVER DEVELOPMENT, THEN 5010 03:53:22,880 --> 03:53:27,280 SEAN HAS ALREADY SHOWN THAT THE 5011 03:53:27,280 --> 03:53:29,160 HYPER FINE SCANNER REPRODUCES 5012 03:53:29,160 --> 03:53:38,160 WITHOUT IQT BUT JUST USING 5013 03:53:38,160 --> 03:53:39,640 CAREFUL SEGMENTATION ALGORITHMS 5014 03:53:39,640 --> 03:53:42,200 YOU HAVE DEFINE TRAJECTORIES. 5015 03:53:42,200 --> 03:53:44,280 THERE HAVEN'T BEEN IMPOSED LEARN 5016 03:53:44,280 --> 03:53:45,480 STRUCTURES ON THESE DATA, AND SO 5017 03:53:45,480 --> 03:53:47,760 WHAT WE NEED TO ASK IF WE'RE 5018 03:53:47,760 --> 03:53:49,320 THINKING ABOUT REGIONAL 5019 03:53:49,320 --> 03:53:50,760 PROPERTIES IS WHETHER IQT 5020 03:53:50,760 --> 03:53:55,760 MEASURES WILL DO BETTER, AS 5021 03:53:55,760 --> 03:53:56,000 RELIABLE. 5022 03:53:56,000 --> 03:53:56,520 >> ONE MINUTE LEFT. 5023 03:53:56,520 --> 03:53:57,560 >> THANK YOU. 5024 03:53:57,560 --> 03:54:01,320 WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS WHETHER 5025 03:54:01,320 --> 03:54:02,960 DIFFERENT ANATOMICAL FEATURES 5026 03:54:02,960 --> 03:54:04,280 ARE MORE PREDICTIVE AT 5027 03:54:04,280 --> 03:54:08,120 INDIVIDUAL LEVEL, LIKE CURVATURE 5028 03:54:08,120 --> 03:54:09,600 TEAM TO APPEAR COMPARABLE 5029 03:54:09,600 --> 03:54:11,280 COMPARED TO SIEMENS AND G.E. 5030 03:54:11,280 --> 03:54:13,840 PREDICTIONS, SO WHAT WE THINK IS 5031 03:54:13,840 --> 03:54:16,040 WE MIGHT WANT TO IDENTIFY 5032 03:54:16,040 --> 03:54:18,160 SPECIFIC ANATOMICAL FEATURES 5033 03:54:18,160 --> 03:54:19,920 RETAINED THROUGH IQT. 5034 03:54:19,920 --> 03:54:22,600 IF WE MOVE TO PSYCHIATRIC 5035 03:54:22,600 --> 03:54:23,840 DISEASE OR COGNITIVE FUNCTION 5036 03:54:23,840 --> 03:54:27,360 WE'RE IN THE REALM OF 5037 03:54:27,360 --> 03:54:28,000 MULTI-REGIONAL INTERACTION OR 5038 03:54:28,000 --> 03:54:28,600 CONNECTIVITY ANALYSIS. 5039 03:54:28,600 --> 03:54:30,920 AND SO WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT 5040 03:54:30,920 --> 03:54:38,720 WHETHER THE HYPER FINE IQT 5041 03:54:38,720 --> 03:54:40,320 PIPELINE PRESERVED SIGNAL, EDGES 5042 03:54:40,320 --> 03:54:45,480 BASED ON PAIRS OF PARCELLATION 5043 03:54:45,480 --> 03:54:51,480 IN THE BRAIN, CORRELATING REGION 5044 03:54:51,480 --> 03:54:54,880 TO REGION, COMPARED TO SCANNERS 5045 03:54:54,880 --> 03:54:56,200 LOOKING AT COMPARISON TO 5046 03:54:56,200 --> 03:54:56,520 THEMSELVES. 5047 03:54:56,520 --> 03:55:00,760 AGAIN WE SEE THERE IS STRUCTURAL 5048 03:55:00,760 --> 03:55:02,200 CO-VARIATION AT A GROUP LEVEL. 5049 03:55:02,200 --> 03:55:04,920 SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO 5050 03:55:04,920 --> 03:55:07,920 CATCH UP WITH THE METRIC OF 5051 03:55:07,920 --> 03:55:11,160 SPACES OF IQT AND COMPUTATIONAL 5052 03:55:11,160 --> 03:55:20,160 MODELING IN CONTEXT OF 5053 03:55:20,160 --> 03:55:22,880 DEVELOPING BRAIN, NEWBORNS, 5054 03:55:22,880 --> 03:55:25,160 HUMAN CONNECTOME, SIMULATING LOW 5055 03:55:25,160 --> 03:55:27,960 FIELD SIGNALS REQUIRED IF WE'RE 5056 03:55:27,960 --> 03:55:29,200 DEVELOPING BASKET OF MODELS FOR 5057 03:55:29,200 --> 03:55:30,760 DIFFERENT SORTS OF APPLICATIONS 5058 03:55:30,760 --> 03:55:34,560 AND PATHOLOGIES, WE'RE GETTING 5059 03:55:34,560 --> 03:55:36,080 THERE, WE NEED BETTER 5060 03:55:36,080 --> 03:55:39,480 IDENTIFICATION OF THE TRUE 5061 03:55:39,480 --> 03:55:42,000 FEATURES OF HYPERFINE SCAN TO 5062 03:55:42,000 --> 03:55:42,960 DEGRADE ACCURATELY LARGE 5063 03:55:42,960 --> 03:55:46,040 DATASETS WHICH HAVE BEEN 5064 03:55:46,040 --> 03:55:46,320 VALUABLE. 5065 03:55:46,320 --> 03:55:47,400 AND THEN FINALLY I'LL MENTION 5066 03:55:47,400 --> 03:55:53,160 COMING BACK TO THIS IDEA OF 5067 03:55:53,160 --> 03:56:01,680 MULTI-MODALITY, THAT THE 5068 03:56:01,680 --> 03:56:04,400 DEVELOPING HUMAN CONNECTOME 5069 03:56:04,400 --> 03:56:05,280 COULD POTENTIALLY BE 5070 03:56:05,280 --> 03:56:09,920 PSEUDOSIMULATED THROUGH 5071 03:56:09,920 --> 03:56:11,440 COVARIATES NETWORK, WE MAY BE 5072 03:56:11,440 --> 03:56:17,360 ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH EEG AND 5073 03:56:17,360 --> 03:56:18,560 MAYBE SYSTEMS WE'VE HEARD 5074 03:56:18,560 --> 03:56:20,760 ALREADY TO LOOK AT LEARNING OVER 5075 03:56:20,760 --> 03:56:24,160 THE LIFESPAN AND PINPOINT TO 5076 03:56:24,160 --> 03:56:26,160 PARTICULAR CELL TYPES USING DTM. 5077 03:56:26,160 --> 03:56:31,760 THIS IS A NICE WAY TO END, A 5078 03:56:31,760 --> 03:56:34,800 VERY LARGE AND MATURE LITERATURE 5079 03:56:34,800 --> 03:56:39,600 FROM ASD, SAW THAT FUNCTION AS 5080 03:56:39,600 --> 03:56:43,760 WELL AS ANATOMY, MRI DATA, 5081 03:56:43,760 --> 03:56:48,480 IMPROVED PREDICTIVE CAPACITY OF 5082 03:56:48,480 --> 03:56:50,360 MODELS OF AUTISM SPECTRUM 5083 03:56:50,360 --> 03:56:51,400 DISORDER, THE PICTURE TO PRODUCE 5084 03:56:51,400 --> 03:56:53,920 WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HOW 5085 03:56:53,920 --> 03:56:57,160 HYPERFINE AND I.Q.T PIPELINES 5086 03:56:57,160 --> 03:57:28,360 FIT THE BILL, OVER THE MONTHS 5087 03:57:28,360 --> 03:57:35,080 AND PROBABLY YEARS. 5088 03:57:35,080 --> 03:57:36,400 5089 03:57:36,400 --> 03:57:42,640 >> THANK YOU, ROSALYN. 5090 03:57:42,640 --> 03:57:49,880 >> I THINK WE LOST GODWIN FOR A 5091 03:57:49,880 --> 03:57:50,920 MOMENT. 5092 03:57:50,920 --> 03:57:52,720 A NICE EXAMPLE OF HOW INTERNET 5093 03:57:52,720 --> 03:57:53,760 CONNECTIVITY IS A CHALLENGE IN 5094 03:57:53,760 --> 03:57:56,120 AREAS WE WORK IN. 5095 03:57:56,120 --> 03:57:58,400 THANKS FOR THE GREAT TALK. 5096 03:57:58,400 --> 03:58:03,000 AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT 5097 03:58:03,000 --> 03:58:07,360 TALK, SAVING ALL THE QUESTIONS 5098 03:58:07,360 --> 03:58:10,760 UNTIL LATER. 5099 03:58:10,760 --> 03:58:12,600 NEXT SPEAKER, YOU WON'T GET THE 5100 03:58:12,600 --> 03:58:15,520 SAME INTRODUCTION BUT HOPEFULLY 5101 03:58:15,520 --> 03:58:25,400 WE'LL GET GODWIN BACK. 5102 03:58:25,400 --> 03:58:30,800 TAKE IT AWAY. 5103 03:58:30,800 --> 03:58:32,000 >> THANK YOU, SEAN. 5104 03:58:32,000 --> 03:58:33,840 GODWIN, CAN YOU HEAR US? 5105 03:58:33,840 --> 03:58:39,120 WE LOST YOU FOR A MINUTE. 5106 03:58:39,120 --> 03:58:41,640 5107 03:58:41,640 --> 03:58:42,040 >> (INAUDIBLE). 5108 03:58:42,040 --> 03:58:43,920 >> THANKS, GODWIN. 5109 03:58:43,920 --> 03:58:48,760 I TOO ENJOYED ANALYSIS OF BEETLE 5110 03:58:48,760 --> 03:58:50,800 TO BENTLEY AND BACK, 5111 03:58:50,800 --> 03:58:55,120 PARTICULARLY BACK TO THE BEETLE. 5112 03:58:55,120 --> 03:58:57,160 THE ANALOGY WAS GREAT. 5113 03:58:57,160 --> 03:59:00,040 I WILL BRIEFLY IN FOUR MINUTES 5114 03:59:00,040 --> 03:59:02,840 TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN IDENTIFY 5115 03:59:02,840 --> 03:59:05,360 FINDINGS IN A POPULATION, 5116 03:59:05,360 --> 03:59:07,000 TRANSLATE TO UNDERSTANDING 5117 03:59:07,000 --> 03:59:07,880 INDIVIDUALIZED FACTORS, AND 5118 03:59:07,880 --> 03:59:11,040 TRANSLATE BACK TO THE 5119 03:59:11,040 --> 03:59:11,360 POPULATION. 5120 03:59:11,360 --> 03:59:16,840 SO, THE BRAIN IS MALLEABLE 5121 03:59:16,840 --> 03:59:18,720 ORGAN, TO UNDERSTAND HOW AN 5122 03:59:18,720 --> 03:59:21,880 INDIVIDUAL IS DIFFERENT OR 5123 03:59:21,880 --> 03:59:23,920 SIMILAR TO EVERYBODY ELSE, ON A 5124 03:59:23,920 --> 03:59:25,040 PERSONALIZED LEVEL IS IMPORTANT 5125 03:59:25,040 --> 03:59:30,480 TO GATHER DATA FROM LARGE SCALE 5126 03:59:30,480 --> 03:59:33,120 MEMBERS OF INDIVIDUALS FROM 5127 03:59:33,120 --> 03:59:34,880 POPULATION, HENCE IDENTIFY 5128 03:59:34,880 --> 03:59:36,720 UNIQUE AND SHARED FEATURES, AS 5129 03:59:36,720 --> 03:59:38,880 WE STRIVE TO MAKE DECISIONS IN 5130 03:59:38,880 --> 03:59:40,000 TERMS OF TREATMENT OR DIAGNOSIS 5131 03:59:40,000 --> 03:59:43,360 THAT CAN BE APPLICABLE TO THE 5132 03:59:43,360 --> 03:59:46,480 POPULATION WE HAVE TO AMALGAMATE 5133 03:59:46,480 --> 03:59:47,960 FINDINGS OR VARIABLES 5134 03:59:47,960 --> 03:59:48,360 INDIVIDUALIZED. 5135 03:59:48,360 --> 03:59:50,480 A COUPLE EXAMPLES IN THE 5136 03:59:50,480 --> 03:59:50,920 CONTEXT. 5137 03:59:50,920 --> 03:59:55,160 FIRST I WILL TALK ABOUT HOW THIS 5138 03:59:55,160 --> 03:59:56,520 APPLIES TO STROKES AND LANGUAGE 5139 03:59:56,520 --> 03:59:59,800 AS A CONSEQUENCE OF STROKES, 5140 03:59:59,800 --> 04:00:00,440 MORE SPECIFICALLY APHAGIA, IF 5141 04:00:00,440 --> 04:00:03,480 YOU THINK ABOUT THE LIFESPAN, A 5142 04:00:03,480 --> 04:00:05,680 CONDITION THAT TYPICALLY AFFECTS 5143 04:00:05,680 --> 04:00:07,400 INDIVIDUALS TOWARDS THE OLDER 5144 04:00:07,400 --> 04:00:07,600 AGES. 5145 04:00:07,600 --> 04:00:09,080 AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE 5146 04:00:09,080 --> 04:00:12,360 LEFT-HAND SIDE THIS IS A 5147 04:00:12,360 --> 04:00:14,560 T1-WEIGHTED IMAGE, DARK IS A 5148 04:00:14,560 --> 04:00:16,840 REGION THAT HAS SUFFERED 5149 04:00:16,840 --> 04:00:20,760 NECROSIS IN THE PAST, AND THIS 5150 04:00:20,760 --> 04:00:24,360 IS SEQUELAE OF THE STROKE, WHEN 5151 04:00:24,360 --> 04:00:28,080 IT AFFECTS LANGUAGE-RELATED AREA 5152 04:00:28,080 --> 04:00:31,240 THERE'S ISSUES WITH SPEECH, 5153 04:00:31,240 --> 04:00:33,040 APHAGIA. 5154 04:00:33,040 --> 04:00:34,080 FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH APHASIA, IF 5155 04:00:34,080 --> 04:00:36,560 THEY HAVE THE SAME LESION THEY 5156 04:00:36,560 --> 04:00:38,360 TYPICALLY DO NOT SHARE THE SAME 5157 04:00:38,360 --> 04:00:40,160 DEGREE OF IMPAIRMENT AND 5158 04:00:40,160 --> 04:00:41,080 IMPORTANTLY THE SAME TRAJECTORY 5159 04:00:41,080 --> 04:00:45,760 AS IT RELATES TO RECOVERY. 5160 04:00:45,760 --> 04:00:50,760 STANDS TO REASON THIS IS DUE TO 5161 04:00:50,760 --> 04:00:51,560 INTACTNESS OR LACK THEREOF IN 5162 04:00:51,560 --> 04:00:59,760 THE REST OF THE BRAIN. 5163 04:00:59,760 --> 04:01:03,360 THIS CAN BE MEASURED BY MRI. 5164 04:01:03,360 --> 04:01:08,040 THIS COLOR CODED IMAGE WITH RED, 5165 04:01:08,040 --> 04:01:11,120 YOU CAN SEE INTEGRITY OF THE 5166 04:01:11,120 --> 04:01:13,720 TISSUE ACROSS MULTIPLE SCALES 5167 04:01:13,720 --> 04:01:17,360 INCLUDING SPECIFICALLY WHITE 5168 04:01:17,360 --> 04:01:17,920 MATTER. 5169 04:01:17,920 --> 04:01:20,960 AS YOU KNOW, MEASURING THE 5170 04:01:20,960 --> 04:01:25,200 REMAINING NETWORKS, SO SQUARE 5171 04:01:25,200 --> 04:01:30,680 IMAGE IS THE INDIVIDUAL'S 5172 04:01:30,680 --> 04:01:30,960 CONNECTOME. 5173 04:01:30,960 --> 04:01:32,960 BY COMPARING WITH NORMATIVE 5174 04:01:32,960 --> 04:01:36,880 DATABASE FROM HUMAN CONNECTOME 5175 04:01:36,880 --> 04:01:38,960 PROJECT, IT IS THEREFORE 5176 04:01:38,960 --> 04:01:41,080 POSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY IN THE 5177 04:01:41,080 --> 04:01:43,560 RESIDUAL BRAIN WHAT IS DIFFERENT 5178 04:01:43,560 --> 04:01:46,160 AND SIMILAR BETWEEN AGAIN ONE 5179 04:01:46,160 --> 04:01:47,880 PERSON AND THE POPULATION, FROM 5180 04:01:47,880 --> 04:01:51,480 THERE WE CAN MAKE MUCH BETTER 5181 04:01:51,480 --> 04:01:53,560 INFERENCES WITH REGARDS TO 5182 04:01:53,560 --> 04:01:55,760 BEHAVIOR, SPECIFICALLY WITH 5183 04:01:55,760 --> 04:01:57,040 REGARDS TO LANGUAGE IMPAIRMENT. 5184 04:01:57,040 --> 04:01:58,440 THIS ALLOWS US TO UNDERSTAND 5185 04:01:58,440 --> 04:02:01,080 BETTER WHAT ARE THE UNIQUE 5186 04:02:01,080 --> 04:02:02,280 FEATURES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED 5187 04:02:02,280 --> 04:02:05,000 WITH IMPAIRMENT AND WITH 5188 04:02:05,000 --> 04:02:05,760 RECOVERY. 5189 04:02:05,760 --> 04:02:07,640 ONE EXAMPLE, THE DIAGRAM ON THE 5190 04:02:07,640 --> 04:02:09,920 BOTTOM LEFT-HAND SIDE WITH 5191 04:02:09,920 --> 04:02:14,320 ARROWS POINTING TO BRAIN REGIONS 5192 04:02:14,320 --> 04:02:18,920 IS A NETWORK ASSOCIATED WITH 5193 04:02:18,920 --> 04:02:20,200 COMPREHENSION, IDENTIFIED WITH 5194 04:02:20,200 --> 04:02:21,520 COMPARISON BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL 5195 04:02:21,520 --> 04:02:22,120 AND POPULATION. 5196 04:02:22,120 --> 04:02:32,360 MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLY 5197 04:02:32,360 --> 04:02:35,520 -- MY LAST SLIDE, EPILEPSY, 5198 04:02:35,520 --> 04:02:37,360 TENDS TO EFFECT INDIVIDUALS 5199 04:02:37,360 --> 04:02:39,360 ACROSS MULTIPLE SCALES AND IT'S 5200 04:02:39,360 --> 04:02:42,320 NOT UNCOMMON TO AFFECT CHILDREN 5201 04:02:42,320 --> 04:02:47,080 AND YOUNG ADULTS, YOU SEE A 5202 04:02:47,080 --> 04:02:49,120 COMMON FORUM, ASSOCIATED WITH 5203 04:02:49,120 --> 04:02:50,480 DAMAGE IN THE HIPPOCAMPUS. 5204 04:02:50,480 --> 04:02:55,160 ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE ON A-1 AND 5205 04:02:55,160 --> 04:02:56,760 B-1, CORONAL SLICES FROM 5206 04:02:56,760 --> 04:03:01,400 DIAGNOSTIC MRI, ATROPHY OF THE 5207 04:03:01,400 --> 04:03:05,120 HIPPOCAMPUS, AND THIS IS FROM 5208 04:03:05,120 --> 04:03:07,400 THE PUBLICATION PMID SHOWN 5209 04:03:07,400 --> 04:03:07,640 BELOW. 5210 04:03:07,640 --> 04:03:10,360 SOMETIMES THIS IS CLEAR CUT IN 5211 04:03:10,360 --> 04:03:11,160 DIAGNOSTIC SCANS BUT OFTENTIMES 5212 04:03:11,160 --> 04:03:14,400 IT'S NOT. 5213 04:03:14,400 --> 04:03:16,080 I'M SHOWING TWO EXAMPLES HERE, 5214 04:03:16,080 --> 04:03:21,560 ATROPHY IS NOT CLEAR CUT, 5215 04:03:21,560 --> 04:03:27,760 INDIVIDUALS WITH TEMPORAL LOBE 5216 04:03:27,760 --> 04:03:28,080 ATROPHY. 5217 04:03:28,080 --> 04:03:28,840 IT'S COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH 5218 04:03:28,840 --> 04:03:31,960 BEYOND WHAT WE CAN SEE WITH THE 5219 04:03:31,960 --> 04:03:35,360 HUMAN EYE, SO THAT POPULATION 5220 04:03:35,360 --> 04:03:37,480 MOSAIC I'M SHOWING DEMONSTRATES 5221 04:03:37,480 --> 04:03:40,640 REGIONS WHERE THERE IS A HIGH 5222 04:03:40,640 --> 04:03:42,920 PREVALENCE OF FAINT ATROPHY IN 5223 04:03:42,920 --> 04:03:44,760 INDIVIDUALS WITH TEMPORAL LOBE 5224 04:03:44,760 --> 04:03:48,560 COMPARED WITH CONTROLS, 5225 04:03:48,560 --> 04:03:49,960 SPECIFICALLY THE VOXELIZED AREA 5226 04:03:49,960 --> 04:03:52,560 UNDER THE CURVE. 5227 04:03:52,560 --> 04:03:54,000 YOU CAN SEE IN RED AREAS WITH A 5228 04:03:54,000 --> 04:03:55,640 PATTERN WE CAN IDENTIFY FROM A 5229 04:03:55,640 --> 04:03:56,960 POPULATION LEVEL. 5230 04:03:56,960 --> 04:03:58,760 THAT ENABLES US TO HAVE A MODEL 5231 04:03:58,760 --> 04:04:04,160 WHAT I'M SHOWING ON THE BOTTOM, 5232 04:04:04,160 --> 04:04:06,480 WITH THE TRANSPARENT BRAIN THAT 5233 04:04:06,480 --> 04:04:07,640 DEMONSTRATES, OR INDICATES, 5234 04:04:07,640 --> 04:04:10,080 WHERE WE WOULD EXPECT PATTERNS 5235 04:04:10,080 --> 04:04:11,560 OF ATROPHY OR LOCATION, THERE 5236 04:04:11,560 --> 04:04:13,680 WOULD BE IN AN INDIVIDUAL 5237 04:04:13,680 --> 04:04:15,120 TEMPORAL LOBE. 5238 04:04:15,120 --> 04:04:17,600 IF WE USE THIS TO GUIDE 5239 04:04:17,600 --> 04:04:18,600 ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE 5240 04:04:18,600 --> 04:04:24,160 DIAGNOSTIC MODEL IS WHAT I'M 5241 04:04:24,160 --> 04:04:27,800 SHOWING BELOW, A NETWORK THAT IS 5242 04:04:27,800 --> 04:04:32,760 POWERED BY THE MODEL THAT WE 5243 04:04:32,760 --> 04:04:34,200 HAVE, LIKE THE BEETLE AND 5244 04:04:34,200 --> 04:04:36,840 BENTLEY AGAIN THAT INDICATES OR 5245 04:04:36,840 --> 04:04:40,560 GUIDES ASSESSMENT OF AREAS WHERE 5246 04:04:40,560 --> 04:04:43,760 YOU HAVE ATROPHY, THIS CAN 5247 04:04:43,760 --> 04:04:45,160 INCREASE DIAGNOSTIC ACCURACY 5248 04:04:45,160 --> 04:04:45,880 SIGNIFICANTLY. 5249 04:04:45,880 --> 04:04:48,640 SO, AGAIN, MOVING FROM 5250 04:04:48,640 --> 04:04:49,240 POPULATION FINDINGS TO 5251 04:04:49,240 --> 04:04:50,880 PERSONALIZED FINDINGS AND BACK 5252 04:04:50,880 --> 04:04:52,720 TO THE POPULATION LEVEL, SO I 5253 04:04:52,720 --> 04:04:53,960 WANT TO THANK THE INSTITUTIONS 5254 04:04:53,960 --> 04:04:57,200 WHERE THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE, MY 5255 04:04:57,200 --> 04:04:58,000 COLLABORATORS THAT ARE INDICATED 5256 04:04:58,000 --> 04:05:05,120 HERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. 5257 04:05:05,120 --> 04:05:15,440 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 5258 04:05:15,440 --> 04:05:16,000 5259 04:05:16,000 --> 04:05:17,920 >> THANK YOU, DR. BONILHA CAN 5260 04:05:17,920 --> 04:05:21,240 YOU HEAR ME? 5261 04:05:21,240 --> 04:05:32,440 >> YES, WE CAN. 5262 04:05:32,440 --> 04:05:35,560 >> FRANCIS SHEN, YOU'RE NEXT. 5263 04:05:35,560 --> 04:05:56,240 5264 04:05:56,240 --> 04:05:59,760 (INDISCERNIBLE) IN 2021 AWARDED 5265 04:05:59,760 --> 04:06:05,000 CAREER SCHOLARS MEDICAL, ONE OF 5266 04:06:05,000 --> 04:06:07,160 TWO AWARDED EVERY YEAR, AMERICAN 5267 04:06:07,160 --> 04:06:14,000 LAW INSTITUTE, A PIONEER IN 5268 04:06:14,000 --> 04:06:15,760 ESTABLISHING INTERDISCIPLINARY 5269 04:06:15,760 --> 04:06:22,040 FIELD (INDISCERNIBLE). 5270 04:06:22,040 --> 04:06:22,800 Ph.D. FROM HARVARD. 5271 04:06:22,800 --> 04:06:23,720 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 5272 04:06:23,720 --> 04:06:27,360 >> IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. 5273 04:06:27,360 --> 04:06:28,920 THANKS TO THE ORGANIZERS, AND 5274 04:06:28,920 --> 04:06:31,840 THE GATES FOUNDATION, NIH. 5275 04:06:31,840 --> 04:06:33,280 I'LL JUMP IN. 5276 04:06:33,280 --> 04:06:34,800 IT'S A PLEASURE. 5277 04:06:34,800 --> 04:06:37,200 I THANK THE ORGANIZERS FOR 5278 04:06:37,200 --> 04:06:45,400 WORKING IN SOME CONVERSATION AND 5279 04:06:45,400 --> 04:06:47,720 PERSPECTIVE OF IMPLICATIONS ON 5280 04:06:47,720 --> 04:06:49,560 THE DEVELOPMENTS. 5281 04:06:49,560 --> 04:06:56,000 WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BEETLES AND 5282 04:06:56,000 --> 04:06:59,160 BENTLEYS, IT'S COOL TO HAVE 5283 04:06:59,160 --> 04:07:02,040 BEETLED BUT WE ARE REGULATIONS 5284 04:07:02,040 --> 04:07:03,120 THERE'S QUALITY CONTROL. 5285 04:07:03,120 --> 04:07:08,000 ONE OTHER CONCERN WE MIGHT HAVE, 5286 04:07:08,000 --> 04:07:11,600 EQUITY-WISE, IF YOU SAY, MOM, 5287 04:07:11,600 --> 04:07:13,600 WHY DOES EVERYONE IN THAT 5288 04:07:13,600 --> 04:07:14,720 COMMUNITY HAVE A BEETLE, 5289 04:07:14,720 --> 04:07:19,080 EVERYONE IN THAT COMMUNITY HAS A 5290 04:07:19,080 --> 04:07:19,760 BENTLEY? 5291 04:07:19,760 --> 04:07:20,800 EQUITY CONCERNS. 5292 04:07:20,800 --> 04:07:22,560 THE ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGIES ARE 5293 04:07:22,560 --> 04:07:23,880 AWESOME BUT ALONG WITH THAT 5294 04:07:23,880 --> 04:07:27,280 COMES CONCERNS THAT WE CAN THINK 5295 04:07:27,280 --> 04:07:28,720 ABOUT AND ADDRESS BEFORE THEY 5296 04:07:28,720 --> 04:07:29,840 GET OUT OF HAND. 5297 04:07:29,840 --> 04:07:33,560 I WANT TO THANK NIH, NIH 5298 04:07:33,560 --> 04:07:35,880 "BRAIN," AND ACKNOWLEDGE MY 5299 04:07:35,880 --> 04:07:42,360 CO-P.I.s ON A BIG GRANT, AND 5300 04:07:42,360 --> 04:07:43,400 OTHER COLLABORATORS, ANYTHING I 5301 04:07:43,400 --> 04:07:45,600 SAY ARE MY OWN THOUGHTS AND 5302 04:07:45,600 --> 04:07:47,160 WORDS BUT ANYTHING USEFUL HAS 5303 04:07:47,160 --> 04:07:48,560 PROBABLY COME FROM MY 5304 04:07:48,560 --> 04:07:48,880 COLLABORATORS. 5305 04:07:48,880 --> 04:07:50,600 WE'RE PART OF A WORKING GROUP 5306 04:07:50,600 --> 04:07:51,760 FUNDED BY NIH "BRAIN" TO THINK 5307 04:07:51,760 --> 04:07:57,960 ABOUT THE FUTURE OF FIELD-BASED 5308 04:07:57,960 --> 04:08:04,040 WORK, AVALANCHE ACCOUNTABLE TO 5309 04:08:04,040 --> 04:08:05,600 fNIRS, YOU NAME IT. 5310 04:08:05,600 --> 04:08:06,720 AS NEUROIMAGING GOES INTO THE 5311 04:08:06,720 --> 04:08:08,800 FIELD IT'S GOING TO RAISE A 5312 04:08:08,800 --> 04:08:11,040 NOVEL SET OF ETHICAL, LEGAL, 5313 04:08:11,040 --> 04:08:12,360 SOCIAL ISSUES, WE'RE TRYING TO 5314 04:08:12,360 --> 04:08:14,920 ADDRESS THOSE. 5315 04:08:14,920 --> 04:08:16,760 IF YOU GET INTERESTED, CHECK OUT 5316 04:08:16,760 --> 04:08:27,520 OUR FREE FOR EVERYONE WEBSITE, 5317 04:08:27,520 --> 04:08:28,520 NEUROIMAGINGETHICS.ORG, COVERING 5318 04:08:28,520 --> 04:08:30,040 DEVELOPMENTS YOU HEARD WITH A 5319 04:08:30,040 --> 04:08:33,680 FOCUS ON THE ETHICS AND LEGAL 5320 04:08:33,680 --> 04:08:34,560 IMPLICATIONS. 5321 04:08:34,560 --> 04:08:36,600 WE START OUR WORK WITH 5322 04:08:36,600 --> 04:08:38,160 EXCITEMENT YOU'VE HEARD IN THESE 5323 04:08:38,160 --> 04:08:39,160 PRESENTATIONS, WHAT DOES THE 5324 04:08:39,160 --> 04:08:41,160 FUTURE LOOK LIKE? 5325 04:08:41,160 --> 04:08:42,440 YOU CAN STAND ANYWHERE, WHICH 5326 04:08:42,440 --> 04:08:44,560 MIGHT ALLOW YOU TO GET MORE 5327 04:08:44,560 --> 04:08:47,480 DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE RESEARCH 5328 04:08:47,480 --> 04:08:48,840 AND GREATER ACCESS, SCANNING 5329 04:08:48,840 --> 04:08:53,040 WILL BE FASTER AND CHEAPER, 5330 04:08:53,040 --> 04:08:54,240 USING NEW PARADIGMS, ANYONE CAN 5331 04:08:54,240 --> 04:08:57,320 SCAN, EVEN IF YOU DON'T 5332 04:08:57,320 --> 04:08:59,360 UNDERSTAND EEG OR MRI, THAT'S 5333 04:08:59,360 --> 04:09:01,720 OKAY, THE SYSTEM WILL ALLOW YOU 5334 04:09:01,720 --> 04:09:05,400 TO INTERPRET YOUR RESULTS, 5335 04:09:05,400 --> 04:09:06,320 DEMOCRATIZING ACCESS. 5336 04:09:06,320 --> 04:09:09,360 WE HEARD THIS EARLIER TODAY, 5337 04:09:09,360 --> 04:09:11,000 NEUROIMAGING AT SCALE. 5338 04:09:11,000 --> 04:09:13,080 POPULATION NEUROSCIENCE. 5339 04:09:13,080 --> 04:09:13,840 BRAIN HEALTH SCREENING. 5340 04:09:13,840 --> 04:09:16,040 THERE ARE REASONS TO BE EXCITE 5341 04:09:16,040 --> 04:09:18,360 AND CONCERNED, TO ADDRESS THESE 5342 04:09:18,360 --> 04:09:18,720 CONCERNS. 5343 04:09:18,720 --> 04:09:21,280 THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF 5344 04:09:21,280 --> 04:09:22,800 ILLUSTRATIVE CONCERNS, IF YOU 5345 04:09:22,800 --> 04:09:24,400 CAN SCAN ANYWHERE, THAT'S GREAT 5346 04:09:24,400 --> 04:09:25,600 BUT IT RAISES IMPORTANT 5347 04:09:25,600 --> 04:09:27,920 QUESTIONS AND WE'VE HEARD THIS 5348 04:09:27,920 --> 04:09:30,760 ALREADY ABOUT LOCAL CAPACITY, 5349 04:09:30,760 --> 04:09:32,280 COMMUNICATING, ENGAGING WITH 5350 04:09:32,280 --> 04:09:36,440 REMOTE PARTICIPANTS, ISSUES 5351 04:09:36,440 --> 04:09:37,400 AROUND RECRUITMENT AND 5352 04:09:37,400 --> 04:09:40,040 INCLUSION, IS THERE THE RESEARCH 5353 04:09:40,040 --> 04:09:40,960 CAPACITY, INSTITUTIONAL CAPACITY 5354 04:09:40,960 --> 04:09:42,760 TO LIVE UP TO THE PROMISE? 5355 04:09:42,760 --> 04:09:50,880 THINKING ABOUT FASTER AND 5356 04:09:50,880 --> 04:09:53,120 CHEAPER SCANNING, IT'S A 5357 04:09:53,120 --> 04:09:56,360 QUESTION OF WHEN CERTAIN 5358 04:09:56,360 --> 04:09:59,520 TECHNOLOGY IS APPROACH IT. 5359 04:09:59,520 --> 04:10:00,480 THERE'S POTENTIAL OVERUSE, JUST 5360 04:10:00,480 --> 04:10:02,680 BECAUSE YOU CAN USE A TECHNOLOGY 5361 04:10:02,680 --> 04:10:03,560 DOESN'T MEAN YOU NECESSARILY 5362 04:10:03,560 --> 04:10:05,600 SHOULD. 5363 04:10:05,600 --> 04:10:07,920 WHAT ARE THE JUSTIFICATIONS? 5364 04:10:07,920 --> 04:10:11,160 THERE ARE ISSUES RELATED TO 5365 04:10:11,160 --> 04:10:13,360 DEMOCRATIZATION, AN EXCITING 5366 04:10:13,360 --> 04:10:18,960 THING TO PUT MR, EEG, fNIRS IN 5367 04:10:18,960 --> 04:10:20,760 ANYONE'S HANDS BUT IT COULD END 5368 04:10:20,760 --> 04:10:23,480 UP IN THE WRONG HANDS OR LACK OF 5369 04:10:23,480 --> 04:10:26,360 TRAINING, IS THERE SUFFICIENT 5370 04:10:26,360 --> 04:10:27,640 CAPACITY TO, AGAIN, ALLOW 5371 04:10:27,640 --> 04:10:29,600 SOMEONE TO PROPERLY INTERPRET 5372 04:10:29,600 --> 04:10:34,720 AND UNDERSTAND IMAGES AND 5373 04:10:34,720 --> 04:10:36,560 INFORMATION. 5374 04:10:36,560 --> 04:10:39,320 IT OPENS POPULATION 5375 04:10:39,320 --> 04:10:39,960 NEUROSCIENCE, AND RAISES 5376 04:10:39,960 --> 04:10:41,760 POSSIBILITY THAT TEAMS WILL NEED 5377 04:10:41,760 --> 04:10:44,880 TO BE NEWLY TRAINED AND 5378 04:10:44,880 --> 04:10:49,240 COORDINATED AND NEWLY 5379 04:10:49,240 --> 04:10:51,280 REDEVELOPED TO ENGAGE 5380 04:10:51,280 --> 04:10:54,800 POPULATIONS AND THIS RAISES 5381 04:10:54,800 --> 04:10:56,240 POSSIBILITY OF DIRECT TO 5382 04:10:56,240 --> 04:10:57,560 CONSUMER IMAGING, WE'VE BEEN 5383 04:10:57,560 --> 04:11:01,160 THINKING ABOUT THESE AND MANY 5384 04:11:01,160 --> 04:11:04,320 ISSUES, ONE IN NEURON, WE 5385 04:11:04,320 --> 04:11:06,320 THOUGHT ABOUT INFORMED CONSENT, 5386 04:11:06,320 --> 04:11:10,040 A.I., POTENTIAL BIAS. 5387 04:11:10,040 --> 04:11:13,120 I WANT TO FLAG ONE, A PIECE IN 5388 04:11:13,120 --> 04:11:15,840 NEUROIMAGE LAST YEAR ON EMERGING 5389 04:11:15,840 --> 04:11:16,600 ETHICAL ISSUES RAISED BY -- 5390 04:11:16,600 --> 04:11:22,520 DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HIGHLY 5391 04:11:22,520 --> 04:11:23,840 AFFORDABLE MRI BUT NEUROIMAGE 5392 04:11:23,840 --> 04:11:26,160 AING IN RESOURCE LIMITED 5393 04:11:26,160 --> 04:11:26,560 SETTINGS. 5394 04:11:26,560 --> 04:11:28,360 ONE OF THE AWESOME AMAZING 5395 04:11:28,360 --> 04:11:30,240 BENEFITS OF DOING RESEARCH WITH 5396 04:11:30,240 --> 04:11:33,200 HUMAN PARTICIPANTS, YOU CAN'T DO 5397 04:11:33,200 --> 04:11:41,080 THIS WITH ANY NON-HUMAN ANIMALS, 5398 04:11:41,080 --> 04:11:43,160 THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE AS 5399 04:11:43,160 --> 04:11:44,920 CO-CREATORS OF KNOWLEDGE. 5400 04:11:44,920 --> 04:11:47,320 YOU CAN ENGAGE WITH PARTICIPANTS 5401 04:11:47,320 --> 04:11:49,720 BEFORE YOU FULLY FORMULATED 5402 04:11:49,720 --> 04:11:53,920 HYPOTHESES, INDEED UNLIKE EVERY 5403 04:11:53,920 --> 04:11:54,600 NON-HUMAN ANIMAL THEY MIGHT 5404 04:11:54,600 --> 04:11:56,280 INVITE YOU TO ENGAGE IN 5405 04:11:56,280 --> 04:11:57,240 RESEARCH, OR MIGHT NOT, THAT 5406 04:11:57,240 --> 04:11:59,200 MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO THINK 5407 04:11:59,200 --> 04:12:01,160 ABOUT THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT 5408 04:12:01,160 --> 04:12:04,040 ASPECT, WE EMPHASIZE IN THIS 5409 04:12:04,040 --> 04:12:05,640 ARTICLE BIDIRECTIONAL LEARNING, 5410 04:12:05,640 --> 04:12:06,960 ENGAGING WITH COMMUNITIES AND 5411 04:12:06,960 --> 04:12:12,000 PARTICIPANTS WHERE THESE NEW 5412 04:12:12,000 --> 04:12:14,600 DEVICES WILL GO. 5413 04:12:14,600 --> 04:12:16,040 LOCAL PARTNERSHIP, SUSTAINED 5414 04:12:16,040 --> 04:12:17,800 LOCAL ENGAGEMENT, CREATING 5415 04:12:17,800 --> 04:12:18,960 SUSTAINABLE SOCIAL VALUE, IT 5416 04:12:18,960 --> 04:12:20,880 REALLY FEEDS INTO A LOT OF THE 5417 04:12:20,880 --> 04:12:22,760 ETHICAL CONCERNS THAT CAN BE 5418 04:12:22,760 --> 04:12:23,080 ADDRESSED. 5419 04:12:23,080 --> 04:12:25,040 THAT OUGHT TO BE ADDRESSED IN 5420 04:12:25,040 --> 04:12:25,280 ADVANCE. 5421 04:12:25,280 --> 04:12:27,560 I'LL JUST MENTION ONE, THIS IDEA 5422 04:12:27,560 --> 04:12:29,040 OF CREATING SUSTAINABLE SOCIAL 5423 04:12:29,040 --> 04:12:30,160 VALUE. 5424 04:12:30,160 --> 04:12:32,400 THE RESEARCH TEAMS YOU HEARD 5425 04:12:32,400 --> 04:12:33,760 FROM ARE EMBRACING THIS. 5426 04:12:33,760 --> 04:12:35,160 FOR SOME RESEARCHERS THERE'S THE 5427 04:12:35,160 --> 04:12:37,560 LINE WHERE YOU WRITE TO YOUR IRB 5428 04:12:37,560 --> 04:12:39,520 AND SAY NO DIRECT BENEFIT FOR 5429 04:12:39,520 --> 04:12:40,760 PARTICIPANTS, FULL STOP. 5430 04:12:40,760 --> 04:12:44,000 THAT MIGHT NOT BE APPROPRIATE 5431 04:12:44,000 --> 04:12:47,040 FOR ETHICAL WHEN DOING CERTAIN 5432 04:12:47,040 --> 04:12:50,880 TYPES OF RESEARCH WITH CERTAIN 5433 04:12:50,880 --> 04:12:51,880 COMMUNITIES, THINKING ABOUT HOW 5434 04:12:51,880 --> 04:12:53,920 LOCAL VALUE WILL BE CREATED. 5435 04:12:53,920 --> 04:12:55,160 THERE'S MORE, I DON'T HAVE TIME 5436 04:12:55,160 --> 04:12:58,560 TO MENTION IT ALL BUT WILL 5437 04:12:58,560 --> 04:13:00,720 SIMPLY SAY THAT WE SHOULD 5438 04:13:00,720 --> 04:13:02,160 PREPARE FOR A FUTURE IN WHICH A 5439 04:13:02,160 --> 04:13:05,080 LOT OF THESE ISSUES WILL EMERGE, 5440 04:13:05,080 --> 04:13:06,800 WE NEED MORE STANDARDIZATION, 5441 04:13:06,800 --> 04:13:08,040 CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND 5442 04:13:08,040 --> 04:13:09,480 SECURITY, ISSUES AROUND EQUITY 5443 04:13:09,480 --> 04:13:12,760 AND PRIVACY, AND DATA FLOW, 5444 04:13:12,760 --> 04:13:14,080 AGAIN, HEAVY RELIANCE ON A.I. 5445 04:13:14,080 --> 04:13:15,920 AND MACHINE LEARNING. 5446 04:13:15,920 --> 04:13:18,560 ALL GREAT THINGS THAT ARE COMING 5447 04:13:18,560 --> 04:13:20,920 DOWN THE SPIKE, I'M EXCITED, BUT 5448 04:13:20,920 --> 04:13:23,680 WITH THAT EXCITEMENT COMES A SET 5449 04:13:23,680 --> 04:13:30,920 OF CONCERNS AND COLLECTIVELY 5450 04:13:30,920 --> 04:13:35,000 ETHICAL RESEARCH, WE CAN ADDRESS 5451 04:13:35,000 --> 04:13:35,760 AND ANTICIPATE. 5452 04:13:35,760 --> 04:13:38,520 THANK YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO 5453 04:13:38,520 --> 04:13:40,240 DISCUSSION. 5454 04:13:40,240 --> 04:13:45,880 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 5455 04:13:45,880 --> 04:13:50,280 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 5456 04:13:50,280 --> 04:13:56,560 I THINK WE MOVE TO A DISCUSSION 5457 04:13:56,560 --> 04:14:00,800 RIGHT AWAY. 5458 04:14:00,800 --> 04:14:02,360 RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE CAN GET 5459 04:14:02,360 --> 04:14:05,160 OUR QUESTIONS. 5460 04:14:05,160 --> 04:14:09,560 5461 04:14:09,560 --> 04:14:11,320 5462 04:14:11,320 --> 04:14:13,560 A QUICK ONE SINCE YOU JUST 5463 04:14:13,560 --> 04:14:16,680 FINISHED, GOING BACK TO THE 5464 04:14:16,680 --> 04:14:25,560 BEETLE AND BENTLEY AGAIN, IF YOU 5465 04:14:25,560 --> 04:14:26,640 HAVE COMMUNITIES (INDISCERNIBLE) 5466 04:14:26,640 --> 04:14:30,760 IF WE HAVE BEETLES AND MORE 5467 04:14:30,760 --> 04:14:34,040 BEETLES, SOME PEOPLE SAY HALF IS 5468 04:14:34,040 --> 04:14:52,160 BETTER THAN NONE, WHAT YOU CAN 5469 04:14:52,160 --> 04:14:54,160 AFFORD (INDISCERNIBLE). 5470 04:14:54,160 --> 04:14:55,240 FRANCIS, PLEASE. 5471 04:14:55,240 --> 04:15:02,160 >> WELL, I THINK TWO-TIER SYSTEM 5472 04:15:02,160 --> 04:15:03,680 SHOULD BE ANTICIPATED, NOT JUST 5473 04:15:03,680 --> 04:15:05,120 WITH THE TECHNOLOGY BUT ALSO 5474 04:15:05,120 --> 04:15:06,320 WITH THE SERVICE PLAN THAT COMES 5475 04:15:06,320 --> 04:15:09,120 WITH IT SO IT'S NOT HARD TO 5476 04:15:09,120 --> 04:15:10,320 IMAGINE THAT YOU GET THE DEVICE 5477 04:15:10,320 --> 04:15:12,200 BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE. 5478 04:15:12,200 --> 04:15:13,960 DO YOU WANT BRONZE, SILVER, GOLD 5479 04:15:13,960 --> 04:15:16,080 SERVICE PLAN? 5480 04:15:16,080 --> 04:15:19,680 YOU GET THE BETTER IMAGING, MORE 5481 04:15:19,680 --> 04:15:21,840 RESPONSIVE SERVICE. 5482 04:15:21,840 --> 04:15:24,160 THERE IS A REAL EQUITY CONCERN, 5483 04:15:24,160 --> 04:15:26,360 SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN 5484 04:15:26,360 --> 04:15:26,720 NOTHING. 5485 04:15:26,720 --> 04:15:28,760 MAYBE THAT'S APPROPRIATE IN SOME 5486 04:15:28,760 --> 04:15:28,960 PLACES. 5487 04:15:28,960 --> 04:15:31,560 BUT I THINK THERE IS A CONCERN. 5488 04:15:31,560 --> 04:15:33,000 AGAIN, IT DEPENDS WHAT THE 5489 04:15:33,000 --> 04:15:34,560 QUESTION BEING ASKED IS, WHAT 5490 04:15:34,560 --> 04:15:37,720 THE PURPOSE IS, AND IF IT'S THE 5491 04:15:37,720 --> 04:15:40,840 CASE THAT ONE IS SUFFICIENT, 5492 04:15:40,840 --> 04:15:41,840 LOWER FIELD OR DIFFERENT SYSTEM, 5493 04:15:41,840 --> 04:15:45,000 GREAT, IF IT'S THE CASE THAT YOU 5494 04:15:45,000 --> 04:15:46,680 MIGHT ALSO WANT CLINICIAN MIGHT 5495 04:15:46,680 --> 04:15:48,400 SAY THIS IS USEFUL FOR SCREENING 5496 04:15:48,400 --> 04:15:50,280 BUT FOR CLINICAL PURPOSES I ALSO 5497 04:15:50,280 --> 04:15:51,560 WANT TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE, ONE 5498 04:15:51,560 --> 04:15:55,080 OF THE WAYS THAT MATTERS FOR 5499 04:15:55,080 --> 04:15:55,880 INCIDENTAL FINDINGS, DOES THE 5500 04:15:55,880 --> 04:15:59,480 RESEARCH TEAM HAVE A PLAN IN 5501 04:15:59,480 --> 04:16:01,600 PLACE TO HANDLE INCIDENTAL 5502 04:16:01,600 --> 04:16:02,400 FINDINGS THAT MIGHT EMERGE AND 5503 04:16:02,400 --> 04:16:07,760 NEED FOR ACCESS TO A NETWORK TO 5504 04:16:07,760 --> 04:16:13,720 IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS INCIDENTAL 5505 04:16:13,720 --> 04:16:13,960 FINDINGS. 5506 04:16:13,960 --> 04:16:23,960 >> THANK YOU. 5507 04:16:23,960 --> 04:16:27,760 WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 5508 04:16:27,760 --> 04:16:29,920 I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATE FOR SAFETY 5509 04:16:29,920 --> 04:16:32,240 FOR SPECIFIC MRI FOR DECADES, 5510 04:16:32,240 --> 04:16:34,080 THE MAGNET MANUFACTURERS IN U.S. 5511 04:16:34,080 --> 04:16:36,880 AND EUROPE HAVE NOT SEEN A 5512 04:16:36,880 --> 04:16:38,440 MARKET FOR THIS APPROACH. 5513 04:16:38,440 --> 04:16:42,520 DO WE HAVE ANY HOPE AFRICAN 5514 04:16:42,520 --> 04:16:45,440 COUNTRIES WOULD SHOW THAT 5515 04:16:45,440 --> 04:16:49,360 QUANTITATIVE APPROACH AND NOT 5516 04:16:49,360 --> 04:16:56,280 THAT EXPENSIVE AND CAN BE 5517 04:16:56,280 --> 04:16:57,000 REWARDED. 5518 04:16:57,000 --> 04:16:58,000 I'LL START WITH ANDREW WEBB, DO 5519 04:16:58,000 --> 04:17:07,400 YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT 5520 04:17:07,400 --> 04:17:07,760 QUESTION? 5521 04:17:07,760 --> 04:17:09,280 >> A POSSIBILITY, MORE SO IN 5522 04:17:09,280 --> 04:17:10,760 POPULATION GROWTH. 5523 04:17:10,760 --> 04:17:13,560 HOW THE GRAIN HAS GROWN, 5524 04:17:13,560 --> 04:17:14,080 DEVELOPING THROUGHOUT THE 5525 04:17:14,080 --> 04:17:16,560 LIFESPAN, THE BRAIN HAS GROWN, 5526 04:17:16,560 --> 04:17:20,640 NOT SOMETHING WE'VE TYPICALLY 5527 04:17:20,640 --> 04:17:22,040 DONE IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD OVER 5528 04:17:22,040 --> 04:17:22,800 THE YEARS. 5529 04:17:22,800 --> 04:17:24,440 FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW, THERE 5530 04:17:24,440 --> 04:17:25,200 IS. 5531 04:17:25,200 --> 04:17:27,480 AND ONE OF THE THINGS LOW FIELD, 5532 04:17:27,480 --> 04:17:30,440 AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT TRYING TO 5533 04:17:30,440 --> 04:17:31,960 GET HIGH RESOLUTION, THINGS 5534 04:17:31,960 --> 04:17:35,360 COULD BE DONE ON A REASONABLE 5535 04:17:35,360 --> 04:17:37,000 TIME FRAME, CLINICALLY KNOWING 5536 04:17:37,000 --> 04:17:39,680 WHAT THE T1 OF A TUMOR IS IS NOT 5537 04:17:39,680 --> 04:17:40,280 VERY USEFUL. 5538 04:17:40,280 --> 04:17:42,000 IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TUMOR 5539 04:17:42,000 --> 04:17:45,560 IS, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING. 5540 04:17:45,560 --> 04:17:47,960 SO, IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FROM 5541 04:17:47,960 --> 04:17:48,960 THE ENTIRE CONFERENCE, LOOKING 5542 04:17:48,960 --> 04:17:50,480 OVER THE LIFESPAN OF THE BRAIN, 5543 04:17:50,480 --> 04:17:52,440 YEAH, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE A 5544 04:17:52,440 --> 04:17:53,640 ROLE, CERTAINLY. 5545 04:17:53,640 --> 04:18:02,280 BUT THERE MAY BE OTHERS ACTUALLY 5546 04:18:02,280 --> 04:18:03,360 MORE QUALIFIED. 5547 04:18:03,360 --> 04:18:08,520 WORKING WITH THE HYPERFINE 5548 04:18:08,520 --> 04:18:10,280 SYSTEM IN TERMS OF 5549 04:18:10,280 --> 04:18:11,160 QUANTIFICATION. 5550 04:18:11,160 --> 04:18:13,440 >> THAT'S OUR PRIMARY FOCUS, 5551 04:18:13,440 --> 04:18:16,960 DRIVEN BY ONE, AS A NEW SYSTEM 5552 04:18:16,960 --> 04:18:23,120 THAT'S COMING UP, THAT'S BEING 5553 04:18:23,120 --> 04:18:26,920 USED IN A WIDER SCALE, THAT 5554 04:18:26,920 --> 04:18:28,920 HASN'T BEEN OPTIMIZED FOR 5555 04:18:28,920 --> 04:18:31,120 PEDIATRICS, STARTING FROM BASICS 5556 04:18:31,120 --> 04:18:33,120 UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE TISSUE 5557 04:18:33,120 --> 04:18:35,080 CONTRAST LOOKS LIKE, T1s, TO 5558 04:18:35,080 --> 04:18:35,920 OPTIMIZE OTHER SEQUENCES. 5559 04:18:35,920 --> 04:18:39,560 THE HOPE IS THAT IT MAY ALSO 5560 04:18:39,560 --> 04:18:41,120 GIVE IMPROVED SENSITIVITY TO 5561 04:18:41,120 --> 04:18:42,640 SOME INTERVENTIONS THAT THE 5562 04:18:42,640 --> 04:18:47,160 FOUNDATION IS CHAMPIONING. 5563 04:18:47,160 --> 04:18:50,400 THINGS LIKE AROUND MATERNAL 5564 04:18:50,400 --> 04:18:51,920 ANEMIA, MATERNAL AND INFANT 5565 04:18:51,920 --> 04:18:53,560 NUTRITION, THESE SORTS OF THINGS 5566 04:18:53,560 --> 04:18:57,400 MAY HAVE A GREATER IMPACT OR 5567 04:18:57,400 --> 04:18:59,280 MAYBE QUANTITATIVE IMAGING 5568 04:18:59,280 --> 04:19:03,360 INTENSIVE TO THOSE INTERVENTIONS 5569 04:19:03,360 --> 04:19:04,400 THAN TRADITIONAL QUALITATIVE 5570 04:19:04,400 --> 04:19:04,640 IMAGING. 5571 04:19:04,640 --> 04:19:09,880 I THINK IN THAT CASE IT'S A 5572 04:19:09,880 --> 04:19:11,160 DIFFERENT BEACH HEAD. 5573 04:19:11,160 --> 04:19:13,480 WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT 5574 04:19:13,480 --> 04:19:15,160 APPROACH, MAYBE TAKE THE 5575 04:19:15,160 --> 04:19:16,960 QUANTITATIVE APPROACH. 5576 04:19:16,960 --> 04:19:17,440 WE'VE BEEN WORKING AND 5577 04:19:17,440 --> 04:19:19,800 SUPPORTING A NUMBER OF OUR 5578 04:19:19,800 --> 04:19:23,200 GRANTEES TO FOCUS ON THAT 5579 04:19:23,200 --> 04:19:23,720 SPECIFICALLY. 5580 04:19:23,720 --> 04:19:29,120 I DO SEE ELLEN HAS A HAND UP. 5581 04:19:29,120 --> 04:19:31,040 >> ELLEN, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 5582 04:19:31,040 --> 04:19:33,440 >> MAKING A COMMENT, ONE THING 5583 04:19:33,440 --> 04:19:35,400 IF RESEARCH IS PERFORMED IN ONE 5584 04:19:35,400 --> 04:19:38,560 SPACE ON ONE SCANNER, EVERYWHERE 5585 04:19:38,560 --> 04:19:39,920 ELSE MORE DEVELOPED WORLD, 5586 04:19:39,920 --> 04:19:42,640 DIFFERENT SCANNER, IT'S HARD TO 5587 04:19:42,640 --> 04:19:43,400 COMPARE DIFFERENCES BECAUSE 5588 04:19:43,400 --> 04:19:45,480 DIFFERENCES COULD BE DRIVEN BY 5589 04:19:45,480 --> 04:19:48,120 SYSTEM YOU'RE USING, SO I THINK 5590 04:19:48,120 --> 04:19:50,480 IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE LOW 5591 04:19:50,480 --> 04:19:52,360 FIELD SYSTEMS ARE USED MORE 5592 04:19:52,360 --> 04:19:54,760 OFTEN IN HIGH RESOURCE AREAS TO 5593 04:19:54,760 --> 04:19:56,200 UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN COMPARE TO 5594 04:19:56,200 --> 04:19:58,480 DATA BEING GATHERED IN 5595 04:19:58,480 --> 04:20:00,360 UNDERRESOURCED AREAS. 5596 04:20:00,360 --> 04:20:02,880 THE OTHER BIG CHALLENGE IS I CAN 5597 04:20:02,880 --> 04:20:04,920 SEE AS A NEURORADIOLOGIST WE 5598 04:20:04,920 --> 04:20:07,560 NEED TO TRAIN CLINICIANS HOW TO 5599 04:20:07,560 --> 04:20:13,560 READ SUCH SCANS, BECAUSE WE'RE 5600 04:20:13,560 --> 04:20:16,560 USED TO 3T SCANS, WE CORROBORATE 5601 04:20:16,560 --> 04:20:19,960 WITH UGANDA, VERY LOW RADIOLOGY 5602 04:20:19,960 --> 04:20:22,640 SKILLS, TEACHING THEM HOW TO 5603 04:20:22,640 --> 04:20:24,600 INTERPRET CTs, IF THEY GET 5604 04:20:24,600 --> 04:20:27,560 HYPERFINE DATA I NEED TO LEARN 5605 04:20:27,560 --> 04:20:30,160 HOW TO READ AND GET FEEDBACK, WE 5606 04:20:30,160 --> 04:20:32,080 NEED TO HAVE THE EDUCATION 5607 04:20:32,080 --> 04:20:33,560 PROCESS TIED TO CLINICAL 5608 04:20:33,560 --> 04:20:34,760 EXPERTS, SUPPORTING THE 5609 04:20:34,760 --> 04:20:39,240 DEVELOPMENT AS IT MOVES INTO THE 5610 04:20:39,240 --> 04:20:41,320 FIELD AND WE KNOW IT WON'T BE 5611 04:20:41,320 --> 04:20:42,840 JUST NORMAL BRAINS, WE'LL BE 5612 04:20:42,840 --> 04:20:45,920 SEEING LOTS OF UNUSUAL THINGS 5613 04:20:45,920 --> 04:20:50,720 GIVEN THE HEALTH SITUATIONS IN 5614 04:20:50,720 --> 04:20:52,480 THESE UNDERRESOURCED AREAS, 5615 04:20:52,480 --> 04:20:54,120 PARTNERSHIP WITH PHYSICIANS IS 5616 04:20:54,120 --> 04:20:57,000 IMPORTANT AS YOU PUSH US 5617 04:20:57,000 --> 04:20:58,560 FORWARD. 5618 04:20:58,560 --> 04:20:59,680 >> DEFINITELY THAT'S A GREAT 5619 04:20:59,680 --> 04:21:01,120 POINT. 5620 04:21:01,120 --> 04:21:02,600 AGAIN THE INTERESTING THING FROM 5621 04:21:02,600 --> 04:21:04,040 EQUITY STANDPOINT WE'RE ALL 5622 04:21:04,040 --> 04:21:13,000 STARTING FROM ZERO, ALL 5623 04:21:13,000 --> 04:21:13,560 LEARNING. 5624 04:21:13,560 --> 04:21:15,080 THIS COUNTRY DIVIDE IS 5625 04:21:15,080 --> 04:21:17,920 NON-EXISTENT IN THIS CASE, AN 5626 04:21:17,920 --> 04:21:18,800 INTERESTING ASPECT. 5627 04:21:18,800 --> 04:21:21,760 THINKING OF HOW WE CAN BRING 5628 04:21:21,760 --> 04:21:24,080 EVERYONE TOGETHER AND TRAIN, 5629 04:21:24,080 --> 04:21:25,960 HAVE THAT COOPERATIVE TRAINING 5630 04:21:25,960 --> 04:21:28,720 AND CAPACITY BUILDING ACROSS THE 5631 04:21:28,720 --> 04:21:30,320 BOUNDARIES IS SUPER IMPORTANT, 5632 04:21:30,320 --> 04:21:34,280 SOMETHING THAT THE FOUNDATION IS 5633 04:21:34,280 --> 04:21:38,360 SUPPORTING. 5634 04:21:38,360 --> 04:21:40,320 >> I WANT TO AGREE, GETTING 5635 04:21:40,320 --> 04:21:44,680 PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE 5636 04:21:44,680 --> 04:21:52,760 THIS EFFICIENTLY TO SOME 5637 04:21:52,760 --> 04:21:53,560 PROBLEMS IS KEY. 5638 04:21:53,560 --> 04:21:58,480 IT WILL ONLY SEE ARTIFACTS, 5639 04:21:58,480 --> 04:22:01,760 FIRST TIME I GOT INVOLVED 5640 04:22:01,760 --> 04:22:03,160 LOOKING AT HIGH-THROUGHPUT 5641 04:22:03,160 --> 04:22:06,120 SYSTEM, IT WAS AMAZING BECAUSE 5642 04:22:06,120 --> 04:22:11,160 VESSELS LOOKED LIKE ARTIFACTS, 5643 04:22:11,160 --> 04:22:12,360 SMALL VESSELS. 5644 04:22:12,360 --> 04:22:15,160 THERE'S A NEED TO BRIDGE THAT 5645 04:22:15,160 --> 04:22:28,840 GAP, FOCUS ON BUILDING CAPACITY 5646 04:22:28,840 --> 04:22:29,560 ACROSS BOTH SPECTRUMS. 5647 04:22:29,560 --> 04:22:34,560 I WANT TO ASK ABOUT IMMIGRATION. 5648 04:22:34,560 --> 04:22:39,400 CAN WE HAVE ONE SYSTEM THAT CAN 5649 04:22:39,400 --> 04:22:49,600 INTEGRATE ALL OF THIS 5650 04:22:49,600 --> 04:22:50,240 INFORMATION, EEG RESULTS, MRI, 5651 04:22:50,240 --> 04:22:59,160 IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THAT ON A 5652 04:22:59,160 --> 04:23:00,800 LOW SCALE? 5653 04:23:00,800 --> 04:23:03,360 >> YES, I THINK SO. 5654 04:23:03,360 --> 04:23:05,560 LAUREL AND I WERE CHATTING ABOUT 5655 04:23:05,560 --> 04:23:07,560 PUTTING EEG IN THERE AND WE 5656 04:23:07,560 --> 04:23:10,920 TALKED A LITTLE BIT, LOOKING AT 5657 04:23:10,920 --> 04:23:13,240 THE SYSTEM THAT SARAH AND JOSEF 5658 04:23:13,240 --> 04:23:14,120 WERE SHOWING. 5659 04:23:14,120 --> 04:23:16,640 ONE OF THE BIG ADVANTAGES OF THE 5660 04:23:16,640 --> 04:23:20,800 LOW FIELD MR, THE BIG MAGNETS 5661 04:23:20,800 --> 04:23:21,800 AND GRADIENTS, THE REAL PROBLEM 5662 04:23:21,800 --> 04:23:22,640 IS NOT THERE. 5663 04:23:22,640 --> 04:23:24,600 IT'S A GREAT IDEA IF THERE'S 5664 04:23:24,600 --> 04:23:29,480 REALLY SOME GOOD REASONS TO DO 5665 04:23:29,480 --> 04:23:33,360 IT, FROM A CLINICAL POINT OF 5666 04:23:33,360 --> 04:23:39,400 VIEW, ENGINEERINGWISE SHOULD BE 5667 04:23:39,400 --> 04:23:39,680 POSSIBLE. 5668 04:23:39,680 --> 04:23:40,640 >> I AGREE. 5669 04:23:40,640 --> 04:23:45,000 HIGH AND LOW DENSITY EEG ON 5670 04:23:45,000 --> 04:23:46,120 MYSELF, HYPERFINE SCANNER, WE'RE 5671 04:23:46,120 --> 04:23:47,120 TESTING ON OURSELVES RIGHT NOW 5672 04:23:47,120 --> 04:23:56,320 BUT I SEE A PATH FORWARD, THAT 5673 04:23:56,320 --> 04:23:58,840 WOULD BE INCREDIBLY EXCITING. 5674 04:23:58,840 --> 04:24:01,320 >> FROM fNIRS SIDE, THERE ARE 5675 04:24:01,320 --> 04:24:02,920 GROUP THAT INTEGRATED fNIRS 5676 04:24:02,920 --> 04:24:05,920 WITH EEG, WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR 5677 04:24:05,920 --> 04:24:10,360 DEVELOPMENT MONEY BUT THE OTHER 5678 04:24:10,360 --> 04:24:16,920 NON-OBVIOUS ADVANTAGE EVER 5679 04:24:16,920 --> 04:24:20,000 INTEGRATING IS WE KEEP RUNNING 5680 04:24:20,000 --> 04:24:21,400 INTO CO-REGISTRATION ERRORS, AS 5681 04:24:21,400 --> 04:24:22,760 WE IMPROVE RESOLUTION YOU 5682 04:24:22,760 --> 04:24:27,760 SUDDENLY FEEL THE PAIN OF NOT 5683 04:24:27,760 --> 04:24:30,880 KNOWING WHERE YOU ARE ON 5684 04:24:30,880 --> 04:24:31,680 SOMEBODY'S HEAD. 5685 04:24:31,680 --> 04:24:33,560 GETTING A SCAN WITH A CAP ON, 5686 04:24:33,560 --> 04:24:38,560 GETTING THAT TO BE ROUTINE COULD 5687 04:24:38,560 --> 04:24:41,360 REALLY CHANGE THE DATA QUALITY. 5688 04:24:41,360 --> 04:24:42,520 ON LONGITUDINAL SCANS IF YOU'RE 5689 04:24:42,520 --> 04:24:55,240 SCANNING THE THE SAME PERSON 5690 04:24:55,240 --> 04:24:56,080 OVER TIME. 5691 04:24:56,080 --> 04:25:00,920 >> ANOTHER BROAD QUESTION FOR 5692 04:25:00,920 --> 04:25:02,440 EVERYONE. 5693 04:25:02,440 --> 04:25:12,920 SHOULD WE BE EMPHASIZING 5694 04:25:12,920 --> 04:25:14,920 STUDIES, STUDYING THE 5695 04:25:14,920 --> 04:25:15,520 DIFFERENCES? 5696 04:25:15,520 --> 04:25:17,840 >> IF YOU LOOK AT THINGS 5697 04:25:17,840 --> 04:25:19,800 SUCCESSFUL WITH fMRI, IT'S 5698 04:25:19,800 --> 04:25:20,160 BOTH. 5699 04:25:20,160 --> 04:25:22,200 THEY HAVE REALLY LARGE SCALE 5700 04:25:22,200 --> 04:25:24,920 POPULATION STUDIES AND THEY ALSO 5701 04:25:24,920 --> 04:25:28,240 ARE GOING TO REALLY MANY, MANY 5702 04:25:28,240 --> 04:25:32,800 HOURS OF IMAGING WITHIN SINGLE 5703 04:25:32,800 --> 04:25:33,080 SUBJECTS. 5704 04:25:33,080 --> 04:25:35,200 I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE PICKED 5705 04:25:35,200 --> 04:25:36,280 ONE OR THE OTHER. 5706 04:25:36,280 --> 04:25:40,320 I THINK YOU WANT TO BUILD TOOLS 5707 04:25:40,320 --> 04:25:43,040 FOR BOTH. 5708 04:25:43,040 --> 04:25:44,920 >> I WOULD JUST SAY THE POINT AS 5709 04:25:44,920 --> 04:25:47,520 WELL, I THINK YOU NEED TO LINK 5710 04:25:47,520 --> 04:25:49,400 THAT TO THE TOOL THAT FRANCIS 5711 04:25:49,400 --> 04:25:51,480 GAVE ABOUT THE ETHICAL 5712 04:25:51,480 --> 04:25:52,200 CONSIDERATIONS OF THE 5713 04:25:52,200 --> 04:25:53,800 INTERPRETATIONS YOU'RE MAKING 5714 04:25:53,800 --> 04:25:58,280 ABOUT THE DATA, SO IF YOU DON'T 5715 04:25:58,280 --> 04:26:00,560 HAVE LONGITUDINAL DATA YOU MIGHT 5716 04:26:00,560 --> 04:26:01,960 BE MAKING JUDGMENTS ABOUT 5717 04:26:01,960 --> 04:26:03,160 DEVELOPMENT COMPLETELY WRONG 5718 04:26:03,160 --> 04:26:04,320 BECAUSE YOU MISSED ANY IMPORTANT 5719 04:26:04,320 --> 04:26:09,360 AREAS AND I THINK THAT'S SUCH 5720 04:26:09,360 --> 04:26:10,480 PAUSE OF A PAUCITY OF 5721 04:26:10,480 --> 04:26:11,800 LONGITUDINAL DATA, YOU CAN'T 5722 04:26:11,800 --> 04:26:13,920 ANSWER UNTIL YOU GET MORE DATA 5723 04:26:13,920 --> 04:26:16,040 BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH. 5724 04:26:16,040 --> 04:26:23,160 FIRST I DID A LONGITUDINAL STUDY 5725 04:26:23,160 --> 04:26:25,360 IN THE GAMBIA, I WANT TO ADD TO 5726 04:26:25,360 --> 04:26:27,040 THE PREVIOUS COMMENT AS WELL AND 5727 04:26:27,040 --> 04:26:28,920 KIND OF LINKING TO WHAT FRANCIS 5728 04:26:28,920 --> 04:26:30,480 IS SAYING ABOUT THE ETHICAL 5729 04:26:30,480 --> 04:26:31,480 CONSIDERATIONS, WE SHOULD 5730 04:26:31,480 --> 04:26:33,160 REMEMBER AS WELL WE'RE LEARNING 5731 04:26:33,160 --> 04:26:37,680 A LOT ABOUT THE DATA THAT WE'VE 5732 04:26:37,680 --> 04:26:38,360 PREVIOUSLY INTERPRETED IN 5733 04:26:38,360 --> 04:26:40,320 HIGH-INCOME COUNTRIES FOR WORK 5734 04:26:40,320 --> 04:26:41,720 IN LOW-INCOME COUNTRIES, DATA 5735 04:26:41,720 --> 04:26:43,520 QUALITY IS BETTER IN THE GAMBIA 5736 04:26:43,520 --> 04:26:44,680 THAN THE U.K. PARTLY BECAUSE OF 5737 04:26:44,680 --> 04:26:46,440 THE WAY IN WHICH WE'RE ENGAGING 5738 04:26:46,440 --> 04:26:50,240 WITH THE FAMILIES AND THE WAY IN 5739 04:26:50,240 --> 04:26:51,920 WHICH THE INFANTS FIT MORE STILL 5740 04:26:51,920 --> 04:26:53,960 BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THEY ARE 5741 04:26:53,960 --> 04:26:55,400 CULTURE HAS TAUGHT THEM TO SIT 5742 04:26:55,400 --> 04:26:56,720 WHEN THEY ARE WITH THEIR 5743 04:26:56,720 --> 04:27:00,000 PARENTS, THE DATA IS USEFUL, SIT 5744 04:27:00,000 --> 04:27:00,360 MORE STILL. 5745 04:27:00,360 --> 04:27:02,160 THEY CAN AGAIN HAVE STRONGER 5746 04:27:02,160 --> 04:27:03,160 DATASETS THAT MIGHT TELL US MORE 5747 04:27:03,160 --> 04:27:05,760 ABOUT THE DATA WE'VE LOOKED AT 5748 04:27:05,760 --> 04:27:07,240 PREVIOUSLY IN THE U.K. 5749 04:27:07,240 --> 04:27:09,320 SO WE'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT 5750 04:27:09,320 --> 04:27:15,200 DIRECTION AS WELL I THINK. 5751 04:27:15,200 --> 04:27:15,360 5752 04:27:15,360 --> 04:27:16,320 >> I AGREE WITH YOU. 5753 04:27:16,320 --> 04:27:24,360 ONE OR TWO MORE QUESTIONS. 5754 04:27:24,360 --> 04:27:25,720 DANIEL, WITH MACHINE LEARNING, 5755 04:27:25,720 --> 04:27:29,400 USED IN THE VAST -- LIKE THE 5756 04:27:29,400 --> 04:27:32,720 HYPERFINE AND LOW FIELD MRI 5757 04:27:32,720 --> 04:27:36,800 SCANNERS, DO PANELISTS EXPECT 5758 04:27:36,800 --> 04:27:37,920 DATA, TYPICAL SUBJECT DATA, 5759 04:27:37,920 --> 04:27:39,600 SEEKS TO LIMIT CLINICAL 5760 04:27:39,600 --> 04:27:43,600 APPLICATIONS FOR SMALLER FOCAL 5761 04:27:43,600 --> 04:27:45,840 ISSUES, I DON'T KNOW, ANYONE CAN 5762 04:27:45,840 --> 04:27:47,040 JUMP IN ON THIS. 5763 04:27:47,040 --> 04:27:50,280 >> I THINK IT MAY WELL BE, SO 5764 04:27:50,280 --> 04:27:53,120 SOME OF THE MODELS WE'VE USED 5765 04:27:53,120 --> 04:27:55,440 THAT WERE DEVELOPED ON NORMATIVE 5766 04:27:55,440 --> 04:27:56,560 DATASETS DON'T HAVE PATHOLOGY, 5767 04:27:56,560 --> 04:27:59,600 TRAINING SETS WILL FILL IN, 5768 04:27:59,600 --> 04:28:00,720 WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY EGREGIOUS IN 5769 04:28:00,720 --> 04:28:02,800 THE CLINICAL SETTING, SO THAT'S 5770 04:28:02,800 --> 04:28:05,200 I THINK WHERE WE NEED TO BE 5771 04:28:05,200 --> 04:28:07,280 REALLY CAREFUL, USING DEEP 5772 04:28:07,280 --> 04:28:09,560 LEARNING METHODS AND I THINK THE 5773 04:28:09,560 --> 04:28:11,760 PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THIS THE 5774 04:28:11,760 --> 04:28:12,680 MOST HAPPILY ARE 5775 04:28:12,680 --> 04:28:13,320 NEURORADIOLOGISTS WHO HAVE 5776 04:28:13,320 --> 04:28:14,840 ALREADY SEEN WAVE OF LITERATURE 5777 04:28:14,840 --> 04:28:20,040 OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS AND SO 5778 04:28:20,040 --> 04:28:22,600 THIS CAN BE, BACK TO SEAN, NO 5779 04:28:22,600 --> 04:28:24,360 DISPARITY, EVERYTHING WORKING IN 5780 04:28:24,360 --> 04:28:25,600 LOW FIELD SCANNERS, ARE GOING TO 5781 04:28:25,600 --> 04:28:29,240 HAVE TO DO THE SAME CHALLENGES 5782 04:28:29,240 --> 04:28:32,200 SO I THINK THAT'S A CONCERN THAT 5783 04:28:32,200 --> 04:28:36,160 NEEDS TO BE AT THE FRONT OF 5784 04:28:36,160 --> 04:28:37,760 ANYONE'S MIND WHEN DEVELOPING 5785 04:28:37,760 --> 04:28:39,120 THESE MODELS. 5786 04:28:39,120 --> 04:28:45,880 >> ANOTHER ONE, TO FOLLOW UP, 5787 04:28:45,880 --> 04:28:48,760 TOO MUCH ABOUT CT, FOCUSED 5788 04:28:48,760 --> 04:28:53,400 ULTRASOUND, CT IS MORE OFTEN 5789 04:28:53,400 --> 04:28:57,560 USED THAN IN THE U.S., ANY 5790 04:28:57,560 --> 04:28:59,160 COMMENTS FROM THE PRESENTERS 5791 04:28:59,160 --> 04:29:01,360 ABOUT WHERE THIS MAY BE USED 5792 04:29:01,360 --> 04:29:07,640 MORE IN AFRICA AND SOUTH 5793 04:29:07,640 --> 04:29:08,400 AMERICA? 5794 04:29:08,400 --> 04:29:12,240 AND THEN I THINK THE FOCUSED ON 5795 04:29:12,240 --> 04:29:13,360 ULTRASOUND AND CT. 5796 04:29:13,360 --> 04:29:16,720 IS THERE A PLACE IN TERMS OF 5797 04:29:16,720 --> 04:29:22,000 SCALING IN THIS COUNTRY? 5798 04:29:22,000 --> 04:29:28,160 SOUTH AMERICA AND AFRICA? 5799 04:29:28,160 --> 04:29:30,960 ROSALYN, DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN? 5800 04:29:30,960 --> 04:29:33,320 >> I'M LOOKING TO CLINICAL 5801 04:29:33,320 --> 04:29:33,840 COLLEAGUES. 5802 04:29:33,840 --> 04:29:34,720 >> HELEN? 5803 04:29:34,720 --> 04:29:36,280 >> THE STILL REQUIRES A STABLE 5804 04:29:36,280 --> 04:29:40,000 POWER SOURCE, YOU'VE GOT 5805 04:29:40,000 --> 04:29:42,520 RADIATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 5806 04:29:42,520 --> 04:29:44,560 CT, HIGHER RADIATION DOSES, THEY 5807 04:29:44,560 --> 04:29:48,320 DON'T HAVE NEAR THE CONTRAST 5808 04:29:48,320 --> 04:29:50,280 POTENTIAL MRI HAS. 5809 04:29:50,280 --> 04:29:53,640 ON OUR SITE, AT LEAST PORTABLE 5810 04:29:53,640 --> 04:29:56,120 CT CAN BE REPLACED, WITH MR 5811 04:29:56,120 --> 04:29:57,880 BEAUTIFUL POTENTIAL OF ALL SORTS 5812 04:29:57,880 --> 04:29:59,680 OF IMAGE CONTRASTS THAT YOU 5813 04:29:59,680 --> 04:30:01,920 NEVER GET WITH CT SCAN. 5814 04:30:01,920 --> 04:30:07,760 SO I THINK THAT CT IS -- 5815 04:30:07,760 --> 04:30:12,000 SENSITIVE, HARD TO MAINTAIN, QA, 5816 04:30:12,000 --> 04:30:13,560 ALSO A CHALLENGE IN UNDERSERVED 5817 04:30:13,560 --> 04:30:14,160 AREAS. 5818 04:30:14,160 --> 04:30:16,520 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 5819 04:30:16,520 --> 04:30:20,320 WE'VE HAD AN EXTENSIVE AND VERY 5820 04:30:20,320 --> 04:30:21,360 THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION. 5821 04:30:21,360 --> 04:30:25,560 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL THE 5822 04:30:25,560 --> 04:30:26,560 PANELISTS TO TAKE A SECOND TO 5823 04:30:26,560 --> 04:30:29,360 SAY FINAL WORDS BEFORE WE CLOSE. 5824 04:30:29,360 --> 04:30:30,040 ANY THOUGHTS? 5825 04:30:30,040 --> 04:30:34,120 FINAL WORD FOR OUR SPEAKERS, YOU 5826 04:30:34,120 --> 04:30:41,280 HAVE 30 SECONDS. 5827 04:30:41,280 --> 04:30:44,320 >> THAT MEANS WE EACH GET FIVE 5828 04:30:44,320 --> 04:30:46,480 SECONDS, RIGHT? 5829 04:30:46,480 --> 04:30:47,280 I DON'T KNOW. 5830 04:30:47,280 --> 04:30:49,360 YOU SHOULD CLOSE US WITH IN OUR 5831 04:30:49,360 --> 04:30:51,760 RENDITION OF THE BENTLEY TO 5832 04:30:51,760 --> 04:30:52,640 BEETLE ANALOGY. 5833 04:30:52,640 --> 04:30:55,840 THAT SEEMED TO WORK FOR ALMOST 5834 04:30:55,840 --> 04:30:59,640 EVERYBODY. 5835 04:30:59,640 --> 04:31:01,360 >> I CAN OFFER I'M ALWAYS 5836 04:31:01,360 --> 04:31:02,920 LOOKING FOR RENEWED PARTNERS IN 5837 04:31:02,920 --> 04:31:04,840 CRIME AND SCIENCE, SO IF ANYONE 5838 04:31:04,840 --> 04:31:06,320 IS LOOKING TO GET ENGAGED WITH 5839 04:31:06,320 --> 04:31:08,240 THIS RESEARCH OR HAS PARTNERS IN 5840 04:31:08,240 --> 04:31:09,480 DIFFERENT SETTINGS THEY WANT TO 5841 04:31:09,480 --> 04:31:12,760 TRY OUT FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT. 5842 04:31:12,760 --> 04:31:15,360 WE WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THIS TO 5843 04:31:15,360 --> 04:31:15,560 SCALE. 5844 04:31:15,560 --> 04:31:17,160 >> I MIGHT OFFER ON THE SAME 5845 04:31:17,160 --> 04:31:18,760 THEME THAT MANY OF YOU WILL BE 5846 04:31:18,760 --> 04:31:21,120 HEARING FROM US, ONE OF OUR 5847 04:31:21,120 --> 04:31:27,000 PROJECT GOALS IS TO ENGAGE A LOT 5848 04:31:27,000 --> 04:31:28,160 OF YOU STAKEHOLDERS, SO PLEASE 5849 04:31:28,160 --> 04:31:29,600 ANSWER WHEN WE KNOCK ON YOUR 5850 04:31:29,600 --> 04:31:31,560 E-MAIL ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT 5851 04:31:31,560 --> 04:31:32,960 ETHICAL ISSUES YOU'RE FINDING 5852 04:31:32,960 --> 04:31:33,560 AND WHAT SOLUTIONS YOU'RE 5853 04:31:33,560 --> 04:31:34,600 ALREADY DEVELOPING AND WE HOPE 5854 04:31:34,600 --> 04:31:36,720 TO SHARE THOSE AS WELL. 5855 04:31:36,720 --> 04:31:38,840 THANKS AGAIN TO NIH AND GODWIN 5856 04:31:38,840 --> 04:31:43,480 FOR A WONDERFUL PANEL. 5857 04:31:43,480 --> 04:31:43,960 THANKS. 5858 04:31:43,960 --> 04:31:45,760 >> I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR 5859 04:31:45,760 --> 04:31:46,520 PARTICIPATING. 5860 04:31:46,520 --> 04:31:49,480 WE HAD A WONDERFUL DISCUSSION 5861 04:31:49,480 --> 04:31:52,920 AND WE CAN OFFLINE REACH OUT TO 5862 04:31:52,920 --> 04:31:55,360 EACH OTHER TO SCALE UP TO REACH 5863 04:31:55,360 --> 04:31:58,680 OUT AND INCREASE GLOBAL ACCESS 5864 04:31:58,680 --> 04:32:00,600 TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 5865 04:32:00,600 --> 04:32:01,720 CLINICAL IMPACT, NOT JUST 5866 04:32:01,720 --> 04:32:03,160 RESEARCH, TRANSLATE WHAT WE FIND 5867 04:32:03,160 --> 04:32:07,760 IN THE RESEARCH LABS TO CLINICS 5868 04:32:07,760 --> 04:32:09,600 AND TRANSFORM THE WORLD. 5869 04:32:09,600 --> 04:32:11,920 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING A 5870 04:32:11,920 --> 04:32:12,960 WONDERFUL SESSION. 5871 04:32:12,960 --> 04:32:18,560 I'LL LEAVE AMANDA TO CLOSE. 5872 04:32:18,560 --> 04:32:22,400 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 5873 04:32:22,400 --> 04:32:25,960 >> AMANDA, I THINK YOU'RE MUTED. 5874 04:32:25,960 --> 04:32:29,560 A RARE MISSTEP FOR YOU. 5875 04:32:29,560 --> 04:32:35,720 5876 04:32:35,720 --> 04:32:41,320 5877 04:32:41,320 --> 04:32:45,440 I CAN'T HEAR YOU. 5878 04:32:45,440 --> 04:32:49,040 SHOULD I JUST JUMP IN? 5879 04:32:49,040 --> 04:32:49,680 BLINK ONCE. 5880 04:32:49,680 --> 04:32:52,400 >> WE'LL HAND OVER TO YOU, DR. 5881 04:32:52,400 --> 04:32:52,880 NGAI. 5882 04:32:52,880 --> 04:32:53,320 >> THANKS. 5883 04:32:53,320 --> 04:32:56,480 THIS IS JUST A TERRIFIC TWO DAYS 5884 04:32:56,480 --> 04:32:57,480 OF SCIENCE. 5885 04:32:57,480 --> 04:32:58,760 EVERYBODY HERE, LIKE ME, LEARNED 5886 04:32:58,760 --> 04:32:58,960 A LOT. 5887 04:32:58,960 --> 04:33:04,040 I'D LIKE TO THANK THE ORGANIZERS 5888 04:33:04,040 --> 04:33:05,440 AND PARTICIPANTS FOR EVERYTHING 5889 04:33:05,440 --> 04:33:05,760 HERE. 5890 04:33:05,760 --> 04:33:07,200 SINCE WE'RE IN THE VIRTUAL 5891 04:33:07,200 --> 04:33:08,920 ENVIRONMENT WE DID NOT HAVE THE 5892 04:33:08,920 --> 04:33:10,600 BENEFIT OF YOU FOLKS BEING ABLE 5893 04:33:10,600 --> 04:33:12,000 TO TALK AMONGST EACH OTHER 5894 04:33:12,000 --> 04:33:13,960 DURING THE BREAKS OR DINNER, 5895 04:33:13,960 --> 04:33:15,720 LUNCH, EVEN AT THE BAR. 5896 04:33:15,720 --> 04:33:17,360 BUT ACTUALLY I WOULD LIKE TO 5897 04:33:17,360 --> 04:33:19,560 ENCOURAGE YOU THAT BASED ON WHAT 5898 04:33:19,560 --> 04:33:22,280 YOU'VE SEEN, CONVERSATIONS WE'VE 5899 04:33:22,280 --> 04:33:22,800 HAD DURING THE DISCUSSION, 5900 04:33:22,800 --> 04:33:25,400 THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES 5901 04:33:25,400 --> 04:33:26,440 FOR SOME REALLY GREAT 5902 04:33:26,440 --> 04:33:28,600 COLLABORATIONS, SHARING OF IDEAS 5903 04:33:28,600 --> 04:33:31,440 AND MAYBE NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR 5904 04:33:31,440 --> 04:33:32,040 MOVING FORWARD. 5905 04:33:32,040 --> 04:33:33,880 IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES, 5906 04:33:33,880 --> 04:33:36,280 EVERYBODY HAD A LOT TO DIGEST 5907 04:33:36,280 --> 04:33:36,480 HERE. 5908 04:33:36,480 --> 04:33:37,800 I JUST WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK 5909 04:33:37,800 --> 04:33:39,960 ABOUT WHAT ARE THE MAJOR GAPS, 5910 04:33:39,960 --> 04:33:40,640 OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES 5911 04:33:40,640 --> 04:33:41,640 CONSIDERING ALL THAT WE'VE 5912 04:33:41,640 --> 04:33:43,160 LEARNED OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS 5913 04:33:43,160 --> 04:33:45,240 OR SO. 5914 04:33:45,240 --> 04:33:48,400 I JOTTED DOWN A FEW EMERGING AND 5915 04:33:48,400 --> 04:33:51,680 COMMON THEMES THAT I SAW WHEN I 5916 04:33:51,680 --> 04:33:56,160 DOVE INTO THIS, INTO MY NOTES. 5917 04:33:56,160 --> 04:33:58,040 SO IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, I THINK 5918 04:33:58,040 --> 04:34:04,920 THIS IS STATED ON THE FIRST DAY, 5919 04:34:04,920 --> 04:34:05,920 I'LL PARAPHRASE, LYMS IN 5920 04:34:05,920 --> 04:34:07,360 PROGRESS ARE ENABLED BY 5921 04:34:07,360 --> 04:34:10,720 TECHNOLOGY DISRUPTION. 5922 04:34:10,720 --> 04:34:11,960 TECHNOLOGY IS THE LIMITING 5923 04:34:11,960 --> 04:34:17,440 FACTOR, WE ARE SEE VIRTUOUS 5924 04:34:17,440 --> 04:34:19,320 CYCLE BETWEEN GREAT INFORMATION, 5925 04:34:19,320 --> 04:34:22,000 HITTING SOME TECHNOLOGY ROAD 5926 04:34:22,000 --> 04:34:22,640 BLOCK, INVENTING TECHNOLOGY THAT 5927 04:34:22,640 --> 04:34:23,680 ALLOWS YOU TOES ASK BETTER 5928 04:34:23,680 --> 04:34:34,560 QUESTIONS AND SO ON AND SO 5929 04:34:34,560 --> 04:34:36,080 FORTH, AN IMPORTANT THING. 5930 04:34:36,080 --> 04:34:40,240 THIS PLAYED OUT WELL IN THIS 5931 04:34:40,240 --> 04:34:40,560 SPACE. 5932 04:34:40,560 --> 04:34:42,560 THERE'S A REALLY KEY IMPORTANCE 5933 04:34:42,560 --> 04:34:43,760 OF APPROACHES WE HEARD ABOUT 5934 04:34:43,760 --> 04:34:44,920 OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS. 5935 04:34:44,920 --> 04:34:48,120 THIS WILL HELP US IDENTIFY BOTH 5936 04:34:48,120 --> 04:34:49,880 CONSERVED AND DIVERGENT 5937 04:34:49,880 --> 04:34:50,560 SOLUTIONS SELECTED OVER 5938 04:34:50,560 --> 04:34:51,920 EVOLUTIONARY TIME. 5939 04:34:51,920 --> 04:34:53,560 THIS WILL HELP US INFORM THERE 5940 04:34:53,560 --> 04:34:55,880 AND HOW TO LOOK IN TERMS OF 5941 04:34:55,880 --> 04:34:58,080 ESTABLISHING MODELS OF HUMAN 5942 04:34:58,080 --> 04:35:00,480 PROCESSES AND VERY IMPORTANTLY 5943 04:35:00,480 --> 04:35:02,720 MECHANISMS OF HUMAN DISEASE. 5944 04:35:02,720 --> 04:35:04,120 ESPECIALLY WHERE THERE ARE 5945 04:35:04,120 --> 04:35:05,160 CONSTRAINTS WE CANNOT STUDY 5946 04:35:05,160 --> 04:35:06,080 HUMANS THEMSELVES. 5947 04:35:06,080 --> 04:35:08,520 WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO NEED GOOD 5948 04:35:08,520 --> 04:35:09,600 NON-HUMAN MODELS FOR BETTER 5949 04:35:09,600 --> 04:35:11,000 UNDERSTAND HUMAN DISEASES BEFORE 5950 04:35:11,000 --> 04:35:14,600 WE CAN GET TO FINDING TREATMENTS 5951 04:35:14,600 --> 04:35:15,800 AND CURES. 5952 04:35:15,800 --> 04:35:19,040 THERE'S A GREAT POTENTIAL 5953 04:35:19,040 --> 04:35:20,960 LEVERAGING SUITES OF TOOLS FROM 5954 04:35:20,960 --> 04:35:23,240 MULTIPLE DISCIPLINES TO BRIDGE 5955 04:35:23,240 --> 04:35:25,000 NEEDS, INCLUDING SPATIAL AND 5956 04:35:25,000 --> 04:35:26,320 TEMPORAL SCALES. 5957 04:35:26,320 --> 04:35:28,800 WE SAW INNOVATIONS, NOT JUST 5958 04:35:28,800 --> 04:35:35,160 COMBINING GENOMICS BUT ACTUALLY 5959 04:35:35,160 --> 04:35:36,280 COMBINING AND INTEGRATING 5960 04:35:36,280 --> 04:35:37,240 MOLECULAR BIOLOGY, PROTEIN 5961 04:35:37,240 --> 04:35:38,040 ENGINEERING, BEHAVIOR, DATA 5962 04:35:38,040 --> 04:35:39,640 SCIENCE, YOU NAME IT. 5963 04:35:39,640 --> 04:35:41,160 WE SAW ESPECIALLY EARLIER TODAY 5964 04:35:41,160 --> 04:35:42,480 THAT IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH TO 5965 04:35:42,480 --> 04:35:44,920 INVENT A NEW KIND OF MICROSCOPE. 5966 04:35:44,920 --> 04:35:48,920 YOU NEED TO MARRY THAT WITH 5967 04:35:48,920 --> 04:35:50,720 SENSORS AND ACTUATORS THAT ALLOW 5968 04:35:50,720 --> 04:35:56,320 YOU TO MEASURE AND MANIPULATE 5969 04:35:56,320 --> 04:36:00,000 NEURAL AND BEHAVIOR FUNCTION AS 5970 04:36:00,000 --> 04:36:00,200 WELL. 5971 04:36:00,200 --> 04:36:01,840 ALL THAT WE'RE DOING THESE DAYS 5972 04:36:01,840 --> 04:36:04,160 IN NEUROSCIENCE AND BIOLOGY IN 5973 04:36:04,160 --> 04:36:06,120 GENERAL IS GENERATING GOBS OF 5974 04:36:06,120 --> 04:36:08,400 DATA AND THIS IS GOING TO INFORM 5975 04:36:08,400 --> 04:36:12,440 TO MAXIMIZE RESOURCES THAT WE 5976 04:36:12,440 --> 04:36:15,160 ORGANIZE, INTEGRATE, DISSEMINATE 5977 04:36:15,160 --> 04:36:18,920 THIS BODY OF DATA, IT'S GOING TO 5978 04:36:18,920 --> 04:36:20,720 BE THE REASON WE SUCCEED WILDLY 5979 04:36:20,720 --> 04:36:23,120 OR REALLY FAIL TO MEET THE 5980 04:36:23,120 --> 04:36:26,120 POTENTIAL OF ALL THESE 5981 04:36:26,120 --> 04:36:28,040 INCREDIBLY POWERFUL NEW 5982 04:36:28,040 --> 04:36:30,760 ANALYTICAL TECHNIQUES. 5983 04:36:30,760 --> 04:36:32,720 THIS IS CERTAINLY AN IMPERATIVE 5984 04:36:32,720 --> 04:36:35,880 ACROSS THE NIH IN THE BRAIN 5985 04:36:35,880 --> 04:36:38,400 INITIATIVE IN PARTICULAR. 5986 04:36:38,400 --> 04:36:41,120 WE'VE SEEN HOW MACHINE LEARNING 5987 04:36:41,120 --> 04:36:42,560 AND OTHER COMPUTATIONAL 5988 04:36:42,560 --> 04:36:44,360 APPROACHES ARE VERY POWERFUL BUT 5989 04:36:44,360 --> 04:36:45,960 REQUIRE GROUND TRUTH DATA TO 5990 04:36:45,960 --> 04:36:47,800 REALLY BE BROUGHT DOWN TO 5991 04:36:47,800 --> 04:36:48,040 REALITY. 5992 04:36:48,040 --> 04:36:50,200 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE 5993 04:36:50,200 --> 04:36:51,680 MODELING ACTUALLY IS TELLING US 5994 04:36:51,680 --> 04:36:52,760 SOMETHING REAL, NOT JUST 5995 04:36:52,760 --> 04:36:55,600 SOMETHING THAT WINDS UP BEING 5996 04:36:55,600 --> 04:37:00,040 SOME GREAT FANTASTIC FIGMENT OF 5997 04:37:00,040 --> 04:37:02,040 OUR IMAGINATIONS. 5998 04:37:02,040 --> 04:37:05,360 THERE'S A HUGE CHALLENGE ACROSS 5999 04:37:05,360 --> 04:37:08,160 LIFE STAGES WITH METHODOLOGIES. 6000 04:37:08,160 --> 04:37:10,240 THE BRAIN, WHETHER HUMAN OR 6001 04:37:10,240 --> 04:37:14,240 OTHERWISE, IS A CHANGING ORGAN 6002 04:37:14,240 --> 04:37:14,840 OVER TIME. 6003 04:37:14,840 --> 04:37:16,800 TARGETS WE'RE TRYING TO 6004 04:37:16,800 --> 04:37:17,680 INVESTIGATE AND INTERROGATE ARE 6005 04:37:17,680 --> 04:37:19,240 CHANGING AS WELL. 6006 04:37:19,240 --> 04:37:20,840 IT'S A MOVING TARGET. 6007 04:37:20,840 --> 04:37:22,720 METHODOLOGIES WE NEED TO USE TO 6008 04:37:22,720 --> 04:37:23,920 STUDY THE MOVING TARGET WILL 6009 04:37:23,920 --> 04:37:27,040 HAVE TO BE CHANGED, HOW YOU 6010 04:37:27,040 --> 04:37:27,920 INTEGRATE ACROSS MODALITIES IS 6011 04:37:27,920 --> 04:37:30,600 GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. 6012 04:37:30,600 --> 04:37:32,200 SO WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF 6013 04:37:32,200 --> 04:37:33,280 SELECTING THE RIGHT TOOLS FOR 6014 04:37:33,280 --> 04:37:35,560 THE RIGHT JOB AND MAKE SURE THEY 6015 04:37:35,560 --> 04:37:36,960 MATCH THE SUBSTRATE WE'RE TRYING 6016 04:37:36,960 --> 04:37:38,160 TO MEASURE AND ULTIMATELY IN 6017 04:37:38,160 --> 04:37:40,280 MANY CASES TRYING TO MANIPULATE. 6018 04:37:40,280 --> 04:37:42,680 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GRAB ALL 6019 04:37:42,680 --> 04:37:44,640 THE APPROACHES IN A STRONG 6020 04:37:44,640 --> 04:37:47,160 FRAMEWORK, MENTIONED IN 6021 04:37:47,160 --> 04:37:48,480 DISCUSSION TODAY HOW THAT COMMON 6022 04:37:48,480 --> 04:37:52,080 FRAMEWORK WOULD HELP US DEAL 6023 04:37:52,080 --> 04:37:53,320 WITH THESE CHALLENGES ACROSS 6024 04:37:53,320 --> 04:37:56,520 LIFE STANDINGS THAT DEMAND USE 6025 04:37:56,520 --> 04:37:57,960 OF DIFFERENT EXPERIMENTAL 6026 04:37:57,960 --> 04:37:58,320 TECHNOLOGIES. 6027 04:37:58,320 --> 04:38:01,160 ULTIMATELY WE DO NEED TO 6028 04:38:01,160 --> 04:38:10,200 DEMONSTRATE CAUSALITY, ONE WAY 6029 04:38:10,200 --> 04:38:12,040 IS THROUGH PERTURBATIVE STUDIES, 6030 04:38:12,040 --> 04:38:12,880 GLOBAL PANDEMICS OR MAJOR 6031 04:38:12,880 --> 04:38:15,960 DISRUPTIONS ACROSS THE PLANET 6032 04:38:15,960 --> 04:38:19,200 ARE ACTUALLY THE ULTIMATE, WHICH 6033 04:38:19,200 --> 04:38:23,160 WILL ALLOW US TO UNDERSTAND HOW 6034 04:38:23,160 --> 04:38:25,200 SUBPOPULATIONS AMONG HUMANKIND 6035 04:38:25,200 --> 04:38:27,000 ARE AFFECTED BY PERTURBATIONS. 6036 04:38:27,000 --> 04:38:29,400 THERE'S A REALLY CRITICAL 6037 04:38:29,400 --> 04:38:31,000 IMPORTANCE OF DIVERSITY IN 6038 04:38:31,000 --> 04:38:32,560 COHORTS, CREATING TOOLS THAT 6039 04:38:32,560 --> 04:38:34,840 ENABLE STUDY OF DIVERSE STUDY 6040 04:38:34,840 --> 04:38:36,560 COHORTS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT 6041 04:38:36,560 --> 04:38:38,000 TO REMIND YOURSELVES MANY 6042 04:38:38,000 --> 04:38:40,320 LESSONS TO BE LEARNED, THERE ARE 6043 04:38:40,320 --> 04:38:42,840 MANY LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM 6044 04:38:42,840 --> 04:38:45,360 VARIABILITY INHERENT IN HUMAN 6045 04:38:45,360 --> 04:38:46,680 POPULATION, VARIABILITY DRIVEN 6046 04:38:46,680 --> 04:38:49,920 BY DIFFERENCES IN ANCESTRY, LIFE 6047 04:38:49,920 --> 04:38:50,360 EXPERIENCE, INCLUDING 6048 04:38:50,360 --> 04:38:52,040 SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, AGE, 6049 04:38:52,040 --> 04:38:54,240 DISEASE, AMONG OTHER VERY 6050 04:38:54,240 --> 04:38:55,880 IMPORTANT FACTORS. 6051 04:38:55,880 --> 04:38:59,040 AND THERE'S A NEED TO 6052 04:38:59,040 --> 04:38:59,760 DEMOCRATIZE TECHNOLOGY, THIS 6053 04:38:59,760 --> 04:39:01,800 CAME UP OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS, 6054 04:39:01,800 --> 04:39:04,000 AS WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT HERE 6055 04:39:04,000 --> 04:39:08,920 TODAY TO EXTEND REACH INTO WHOLE 6056 04:39:08,920 --> 04:39:10,680 ENVIRONMENTS, MANY OF THESE 6057 04:39:10,680 --> 04:39:12,600 ISSUES REPRESENT CONFLICTING AND 6058 04:39:12,600 --> 04:39:14,800 SOMETIMES DOUBLE-EDGED SWORDS. 6059 04:39:14,800 --> 04:39:16,440 AS FRANCIS SHEN WAS VERY KEEN TO 6060 04:39:16,440 --> 04:39:19,280 POINT OUT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL 6061 04:39:19,280 --> 04:39:21,960 UP FRONT ABOUT THE ETHICAL, 6062 04:39:21,960 --> 04:39:22,760 LEGAL, SOCIETAL IMPLICATIONS OF 6063 04:39:22,760 --> 04:39:25,760 ALL THAT WE DO HERE. 6064 04:39:25,760 --> 04:39:27,000 THERE'S HUGE OPPORTUNITIES FOR 6065 04:39:27,000 --> 04:39:28,360 THE FIELD IN THE FUTURE, HUGE 6066 04:39:28,360 --> 04:39:31,160 OPPORTUNITIES IN TERMS OF 6067 04:39:31,160 --> 04:39:32,040 DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGIES THAT 6068 04:39:32,040 --> 04:39:34,000 ALLOW US TO UNDERSTAND BETTER 6069 04:39:34,000 --> 04:39:36,640 HOW THE HUMAN BRAIN DEVELOPS 6070 04:39:36,640 --> 04:39:38,960 OVER TIME, AND AGES OVER TIME, 6071 04:39:38,960 --> 04:39:41,600 AND WITH ALL THESE POINTS IN 6072 04:39:41,600 --> 04:39:44,040 MIND, I THINK WITH ALL WE 6073 04:39:44,040 --> 04:39:46,360 LEARNED THE LAST TWO DAYS HOPING 6074 04:39:46,360 --> 04:39:48,040 YOU FOLKS WILL FIND WAYS TO 6075 04:39:48,040 --> 04:39:50,080 DEVELOP NEW COLLABORATIONS THAT 6076 04:39:50,080 --> 04:39:52,720 MIGHT ALLOW US TO ENABLE SOME 6077 04:39:52,720 --> 04:39:54,360 TECHNOLOGY DISRUPTIONS THAT WILL 6078 04:39:54,360 --> 04:39:56,440 LEAD US TO ASK BETTER QUESTIONS 6079 04:39:56,440 --> 04:39:58,560 THAT WILL GET US FURTHER TO 6080 04:39:58,560 --> 04:39:59,360 UNDERSTANDING HOW THE BRAIN 6081 04:39:59,360 --> 04:40:02,880 CHANGES OVER TIME AND HOW WE CAN 6082 04:40:02,880 --> 04:40:07,120 INTERVENE IN CASES OF DISEASE. 6083 04:40:07,120 --> 04:40:12,560 I WILL END THERE. 6084 04:40:12,560 --> 04:40:16,200 AND MY ZOOM IS WONKY SO SOMEONE 6085 04:40:16,200 --> 04:40:18,960 WILL HAVE TO KICK ME OUT OF 6086 04:40:18,960 --> 04:40:21,760 SCREEN SHARE, IF YOU WOULD. 6087 04:40:21,760 --> 04:40:24,640 >> THANKS. 6088 04:40:24,640 --> 04:40:27,120 >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY 6089 04:40:27,120 --> 04:40:28,440 QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IN THE 6090 04:40:28,440 --> 04:40:30,360 LAST FEW MINUTES WE HAVE OR WE 6091 04:40:30,360 --> 04:40:31,760 CAN GET OUT OF CLASS A LITTLE 6092 04:40:31,760 --> 04:40:34,560 BIT EARLY, IF NOT. 6093 04:40:34,560 --> 04:40:39,160 6094 04:40:39,160 --> 04:40:45,040 >> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. 6095 04:40:45,040 --> 04:40:47,160 I MEANT TO SAY BEFORE THAT JOHN 6096 04:40:47,160 --> 04:40:51,800 NGAI IS DIRECTOR OF THE BRAIN 6097 04:40:51,800 --> 04:40:54,440 INITIATIVE, AND THIS WILL BE AN 6098 04:40:54,440 --> 04:40:55,440 OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME CLOSING 6099 04:40:55,440 --> 04:40:58,720 DISCUSSION, IF WE WANT TO BE 6100 04:40:58,720 --> 04:41:01,880 ABLE TO ALL COME TOGETHER AND 6101 04:41:01,880 --> 04:41:03,080 DISCUSS ANY LAST PARTING 6102 04:41:03,080 --> 04:41:04,000 THOUGHTS BEFORE THE MEETING 6103 04:41:04,000 --> 04:41:08,040 CLOSES. 6104 04:41:08,040 --> 04:41:14,560 6105 04:41:14,560 --> 04:41:14,680 6106 04:41:14,680 --> 04:41:16,760 >> AMANDA, THANK YOU FOR HOSTING 6107 04:41:16,760 --> 04:41:17,560 THIS WONDERFUL MEETING. 6108 04:41:17,560 --> 04:41:19,840 I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING, AT 6109 04:41:19,840 --> 04:41:22,760 LEAST FOR THIS SESSION, THE 6110 04:41:22,760 --> 04:41:24,000 OTHER SESSIONS WERE HIGHLY 6111 04:41:24,000 --> 04:41:29,880 TECHNICAL, BUT THIS WAS MORE 6112 04:41:29,880 --> 04:41:34,160 ACROSS THE LINE. 6113 04:41:34,160 --> 04:41:39,360 I WANT TO ASK IF WE COULD 6114 04:41:39,360 --> 04:41:40,280 SUMMARIZE THOUGHTS AND 6115 04:41:40,280 --> 04:41:41,760 PRESENTATIONS INTO LIKE, I DON'T 6116 04:41:41,760 --> 04:41:44,560 KNOW, A COMMENTARY OR SOMETHING 6117 04:41:44,560 --> 04:41:46,760 TO BE ABLE TO CONDENSE TALKS AND 6118 04:41:46,760 --> 04:41:48,320 PRESENTATIONS IN A WAY WE CAN 6119 04:41:48,320 --> 04:41:55,160 PRESENT IT TO THE WORLD TO THINK 6120 04:41:55,160 --> 04:41:56,280 ABOUT AND COLLABORATE WITH THE 6121 04:41:56,280 --> 04:41:56,560 SPEAKERS. 6122 04:41:56,560 --> 04:41:58,160 >> THERE WILL BE A MEETING 6123 04:41:58,160 --> 04:41:59,200 REPORT PRODUCED FROM THE 6124 04:41:59,200 --> 04:42:00,280 WORKSHOP WITH AN EXECUTIVE 6125 04:42:00,280 --> 04:42:01,680 SUMMARY WITH SOME OF THE MAJOR 6126 04:42:01,680 --> 04:42:04,160 THEMES HIGHLIGHTED. 6127 04:42:04,160 --> 04:42:05,480 6128 04:42:05,480 --> 04:42:06,920 YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING 6129 04:42:06,920 --> 04:42:09,400 THAT IN THE FUTURE. 6130 04:42:09,400 --> 04:42:16,040 6131 04:42:16,040 --> 04:42:20,560 6132 04:42:20,560 --> 04:42:23,160 WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE 6133 04:42:23,160 --> 04:42:24,160 CHAT. 6134 04:42:24,160 --> 04:42:30,240 6135 04:42:30,240 --> 04:42:35,720 6136 04:42:35,720 --> 04:42:39,760 JOHN, YOU'RE MUTED. 6137 04:42:39,760 --> 04:42:41,160 >> YEAH, LET'S SEE. 6138 04:42:41,160 --> 04:42:44,680 WHERE SHOULD WE START? 6139 04:42:44,680 --> 04:42:45,200 LET'S SEE. 6140 04:42:45,200 --> 04:42:47,480 IS THERE A PRIOR TO MAKE MRIs 6141 04:42:47,480 --> 04:42:49,360 ARCHIVED FOR ACCESS TO BIOTECH 6142 04:42:49,360 --> 04:42:49,600 COMPANIES? 6143 04:42:49,600 --> 04:42:54,360 I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT 6144 04:42:54,360 --> 04:43:00,480 QUESTION. 6145 04:43:00,480 --> 04:43:01,760 6146 04:43:01,760 --> 04:43:02,640 ULTIMATELY TECHNOLOGIES WE'RE 6147 04:43:02,640 --> 04:43:08,120 DEVELOPING, THE GOAL HERE IS TO 6148 04:43:08,120 --> 04:43:09,400 EVENTUALLY HAVE THESE 6149 04:43:09,400 --> 04:43:11,720 TECHNOLOGIES ACCESSIBLE, SO SOME 6150 04:43:11,720 --> 04:43:14,440 OF THESE WILL HOPEFULLY LEAD TO 6151 04:43:14,440 --> 04:43:16,040 COMMERCIALIZATION AND PART OF 6152 04:43:16,040 --> 04:43:22,440 THE STRATEGY IS NOT JUST TO GET 6153 04:43:22,440 --> 04:43:24,160 THE HIGHEST FIELD, HIGHEST 6154 04:43:24,160 --> 04:43:25,600 RESOLUTION MACHINES OUT THERE, 6155 04:43:25,600 --> 04:43:29,280 TO ALSO GET MACHINES OUT THERE 6156 04:43:29,280 --> 04:43:30,600 THAT MEET THAT NEED, THINK THAT 6157 04:43:30,600 --> 04:43:31,480 ANSWERS THE QUESTION. 6158 04:43:31,480 --> 04:43:33,840 NOT SURE. 6159 04:43:33,840 --> 04:43:36,080 6160 04:43:36,080 --> 04:43:38,000 >> SEEMS LIKE IN THE CHAT 6161 04:43:38,000 --> 04:43:39,440 THERE'S A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM 6162 04:43:39,440 --> 04:43:41,920 AROUND PUTTING OUT A WHITE 6163 04:43:41,920 --> 04:43:43,160 PAPER, SO YOU MAY BE CONTACTED 6164 04:43:43,160 --> 04:43:46,200 ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE. 6165 04:43:46,200 --> 04:43:49,560 6166 04:43:49,560 --> 04:43:53,200 >> THAT'S I THINK -- AS AMANDA 6167 04:43:53,200 --> 04:43:54,320 SAID, THE MEETING CONTRACTOR 6168 04:43:54,320 --> 04:43:56,960 WILL PROVIDE A SUMMARY, A 6169 04:43:56,960 --> 04:43:58,240 NON-EDITORIALIZED SUMMARY OF THE 6170 04:43:58,240 --> 04:43:59,560 CONTENTS AND DISCUSSION OF THE 6171 04:43:59,560 --> 04:44:00,960 MEETING, AND I THINK IF THE 6172 04:44:00,960 --> 04:44:03,160 FOLKS HERE WANT TO PUT TOGETHER 6173 04:44:03,160 --> 04:44:04,800 A WHITE PAPER, THAT'S GREAT, BUT 6174 04:44:04,800 --> 04:44:06,440 THAT'S A WRITING ASSIGNMENT, AN 6175 04:44:06,440 --> 04:44:08,200 ORGANIZATIONAL WRITING 6176 04:44:08,200 --> 04:44:13,880 ASSIGNMENT FOR YOU FOLKS, BUT 6177 04:44:13,880 --> 04:44:15,960 COULD LEAD TO COLLABORATIONS, 6178 04:44:15,960 --> 04:44:20,040 NEW COLLABORATIONS AMONG 6179 04:44:20,040 --> 04:44:22,640 SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY ARE OR, OR 6180 04:44:22,640 --> 04:44:24,040 THOSE NOT COLLABORATING, SO WE 6181 04:44:24,040 --> 04:44:27,000 CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THAT. 6182 04:44:27,000 --> 04:44:27,200 OKAY. 6183 04:44:27,200 --> 04:44:28,280 I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT 6184 04:44:28,280 --> 04:44:30,360 I'M SEEING IN TERMS OF 6185 04:44:30,360 --> 04:44:33,840 QUESTIONS, AMANDA. 6186 04:44:33,840 --> 04:44:36,680 >> IN THAT CASE, I GUESS WE CAN 6187 04:44:36,680 --> 04:44:37,240 CLOSE THE MEETING. 6188 04:44:37,240 --> 04:44:40,520 I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU 6189 04:44:40,520 --> 04:44:42,680 FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND BEING 6190 04:44:42,680 --> 04:44:44,120 SO ENGAGED. 6191 04:44:44,120 --> 04:44:45,880 FOR ALL OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS 6192 04:44:45,880 --> 04:44:49,560 THROUGHOUT THE PAST TWO DAYS. 6193 04:44:49,560 --> 04:44:51,560 6194 04:44:51,560 --> 04:44:53,960 AND YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT. 6195 04:44:53,960 --> 04:45:01,720 WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING. 6196 04:45:01,720 --> 04:45:07,720 6197 04:45:07,720 --> 04:46:51,240