1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,920 I WANT TO RECONVENE OUR 82nd 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,640 82nd IMMEDIATING OF THE 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,520 NATIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,160 COMPLIMENTARY AND INTEGRATIVE 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,400 HEALTH. 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,400 I NOTE FOR THE RECORD, THIS 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,080 MEETING BEING HELD VIRTUALLY FOR 8 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:24,440 ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS, NIH STAFF 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,640 AND THE PUBLIC. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,840 MY NAME IS PARTAP KHALSA AND I 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,920 SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,280 FOR THIS COUNCIL AND ASPER 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,280 FEDERAL REGULATIONS, I AM THE 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,640 DESIGNATED FEDERAL OFFICIAL FOR 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,520 THIS MEETING OF THE NATIONAL 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:39,920 ADVISORY COUNCIL. 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,240 THIS COUNCIL MEETING IS CONVENED 18 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,520 AS REQUIRED BY TITLE 42 OF THE 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,480 U.S. CODE OF LAWS THAT GOVERN 20 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:49,760 NIH IN GENERAL AND NCCIH 21 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,920 SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S SECTION 22 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,240 287C-21. 23 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,840 AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 24 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,280 FEDERAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE ACT, 25 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,720 WHICH IS PUBLIC LAW 92-4263 THAT 26 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,040 IS CODIFIED IN TITLE 5 OF THE 27 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,240 U.S. CODE OF LAWS. 28 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,520 I NOTE THAT THE CLOSED SESSION 29 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,400 OF THIS COUNCIL WAS HELD EARLIER 30 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,720 THIS MORNING AND WAS CLOSED TO 31 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,480 THE PUBLIC IN ACCORDANCE WITH 32 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,640 THE GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE 33 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,120 ACT PUBLIC LAW 94-409 AND 34 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,480 CODIFIED IN TITLE 5 OF THE U.S. 35 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,400 CODE DEALING WITH ADMINISTRATIVE 36 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,800 PROCEDURES FOR FEDERAL AGENCIES. 37 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,120 WE WILL ENDEAVOR TO FINISH THIS 38 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,040 AFTERNOON BY AROUND 4:00 EASTERN 39 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:28,240 TIME. 40 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,920 THE OPEN SESSION OF COUNCIL IS 41 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,600 OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO 42 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,680 ATTEND VIA LIVE NIH VIDEO CAST 43 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,360 AND THUS CAN AND MAY BE VIEWED 44 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:43,800 BY INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THIS AND 45 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,520 OTHER COUNTRIES. 46 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,640 WE WILL FOREGO FOR THIS OPEN 47 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,920 SESSION AND THIS OPEN SESSION 48 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,480 WILL INCLUDE MY OPENING 49 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,240 PROCEDURAL REMARKS FOLLOWED BY 50 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,960 THE NCCIH DIRECTOR'S REPORT TO 51 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,200 COUNCIL. 52 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,520 WE WILL THEN BREAK FOR LUNCH. 53 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,560 FOLLOWING LUNCH, WE WILL 54 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,400 RECONVENE AT 1: P.M. EASTERN 55 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,920 TIME AND A PRESENTATION BY MIKE 56 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:12,320 LAUER THE NIH DEPUTY DIRECTOR 57 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,440 AND DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF 58 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,040 EXTRAMURAL RESEARCH ALONG WITH 59 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Dr. CRAIG HOPP THE DEPUTY 60 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:20,960 DIRECTOR OF THE NCCIH. 61 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,480 THE PRESENTATION WILL BE ON A 62 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,440 NEW NIH POLICY ON DATA 63 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,280 MANAGEMENT AND SHARING. 64 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,240 THEIR PRESENTATION WILL THEN BE 65 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,600 FOLLOWED BY Dr. HELENE 66 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:33,760 LANGEVIN LEADING THE 67 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,920 DETERMINANTS OF WHOLE PERSON 68 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:37,800 HEALTH. 69 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,560 COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY 70 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,520 RECEIVED A COPY OF THE MAY 2022 71 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,240 MEETING MINUTES IN THE 72 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,440 ELECTRONIC COUNCIL BOOK AND A 73 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:50,440 COPY IS ABOUT TO BE DISPLAYED ON 74 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,120 YOUR SCREEN AT THIS TIME, I 75 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,120 WOULD LIKE TO FINALIZE THE 76 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,440 MINUTES FROM THE 2022 COUNCIL 77 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,160 MEETING AND PARTICULARLY TO ASK 78 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,880 COUNCIL WHETHER THERE ARE ANY 79 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,240 CORRECTIONS OR REVISIONS 80 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:08,440 ADDITIONS TO THE COUNCIL MEETING 81 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:08,640 MINUTES? 82 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:10,040 AND I AM LOOKING TO SEE IF 83 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,600 ANYONE HAS RAISED THEIR DIGITAL 84 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,240 HAND. 85 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,880 I'M NOT SEEING ANY. 86 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,840 I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION OF 87 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,160 APPROVAL OF THE MAY 2022 COUNCIL 88 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,640 MEETING MINUTES BY ANY 89 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:23,960 COUNCILMEMBER. 90 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,440 >> SO MOVED. 91 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,840 >> AND A SECOND. 92 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,640 >> SECOND. 93 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:28,960 >> THANK YOU. 94 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,480 SO WE'RE NOW GOING TO GO AHEAD 95 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,640 AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION 96 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:34,560 BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. 97 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:34,960 SEEING NONE. 98 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,640 WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR A 99 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:36,840 VOTE. 100 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,440 YOU WILL SEE A POLL APPEAR ON 101 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,920 YOUR SCREEN AND THIS IS A VOTE 102 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,080 FOR YES IS APPROVING OF THE 2022 103 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,640 COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. 104 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,320 A VOTE OF NO WOULD BE NOT AND 105 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,960 YOU MAY ABSTAIN. 106 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,200 WE'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME 107 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,040 FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO FULLY 108 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,080 ACCESS THIS. 109 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,800 I'M SEEING A UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR 110 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,240 APPROVAL OF THE 2020 COUNCIL 111 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,480 MEETING SO WE'LL END IT THERE. 112 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,720 THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. 113 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,240 THE MINUTES STAND AS APPROVED. 114 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,560 FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING DATES ARE 115 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,640 NOTED ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS 116 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:15,880 MEETING. 117 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,560 OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON 118 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,320 JANUARY 20th, 2023. 119 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,880 AND IT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO 120 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,840 BE HELD VIRTUALLY, MEANING VIA 121 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:26,560 ZOOM GOV. 122 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,800 IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE TO THE 123 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,960 PLAN FOR OUR HOLDING THE COUNCIL 124 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,800 MEETING THAT IS AN OPTION FOR 125 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,840 HOLDING A HYBRID-IN-PERSON 126 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,440 MEETING, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW AS 127 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,760 SOON AS WE KNOW AND IT WOULD BE 128 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,560 ANNOUNCED IN ADVANCE. 129 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,120 PLEASE, LET US KNOW AS SOON AS 130 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,240 POSSIBLE IF YOU WILL KNOW YOU 131 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,200 WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND A 132 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,840 GIVEN MEETING. 133 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:53,000 THE LAND AGENDA ITEM IS THE 134 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,200 PUBLIC COMMENTS SESSION. 135 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,440 BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL MEETING IS 136 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,360 BEING HELD VIRTUALLY RATHER THAN 137 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,440 IN-PERSON, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE 138 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,080 FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO 139 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,880 MAKE IN-PERSON COMMENTS. 140 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,840 AS SUCH, ANY MEMBER OF THE 141 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:06,720 PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO MAKE A 142 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,360 PUBLIC COMMENT MAY DO SO BY 143 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,680 SENDING ME YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS 144 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,840 WITHIN 15 DAYS OF THE CONCLUSION 145 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:14,000 OF THIS MEETING. 146 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,080 THIS CAN BE DONE EITHER BY AN 147 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,400 E-MAIL OR A HARD COPY LETTER. 148 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,480 YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS SHOULD BE 149 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,720 LESS THAN 700 WORDS IN LENGTH 150 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,240 AND IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH 151 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,000 ABOUT A FIVE-MINUTE ORAL 152 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,320 PRESENTATION. 153 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,680 YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS WOULD BE 154 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 PROVIDED TO COUNCIL VIA THE 155 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,280 ELECTRONIC COUNCIL BOOK. 156 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:39,160 Dr. LANGEVIN, PLEASE, CROWED. 157 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,080 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: GREAT. 158 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,560 WELL, THANK YOU Dr. KHALSA AND 159 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,200 IT'S REALLY MY PLEASURE TO 160 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,280 WELCOME YOU INTO THIS OPEN 161 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:50,240 SESSION OF COUNCIL. 162 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,960 AND, I WILL PROCEED WITH MY 163 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,040 DIRECTOR'S REPORT. 164 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:11,040 I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN. 165 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,360 CAN YOU ALL SEE THIS? 166 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,200 I NEED TO DISPLAY. 167 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,480 THIS IS GOOD? 168 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,760 IT'S MY PLEASURE AGAIN TO SHARE 169 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,320 MY DIRECTOR'S REPORT WITH YOU 170 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:34,680 ALL AND WE'LL START WITH SOME 171 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,400 NCCIH-WIDE AND NACCIH NEWS. 172 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,840 THE FIRST NEWS IS VERY SAD ONE. 173 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:45,600 WE ARE SO, SO MOURNING THE 174 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:51,600 TRAGIC PASSING OF REPRESENTATIVE 175 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,640 JACKIE WALORSKI. 176 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,240 SHE WAS ALWAYS SO SUPPORTIVE OF 177 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,840 OUR WORK AT NIH IN GENERAL. 178 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:03,240 SHE WAS COULD CHAIR OF THE 179 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,400 INTEGRATIVE HEALTH AND WELL IN 180 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:11,440 CAUCUS AND SHE WILL BE GREATLY 181 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:11,920 MISSED. 182 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,840 PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HAS 183 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,120 ANNOUNCED THE SELECTION OF Dr. 184 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,920 MONICA BRITTINO OF THE NATIONAL 185 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,680 CANCER INSTITUTE. 186 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,480 SHE STILL UNDERGOING IN THE 187 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,200 PROCESS OF THE APPOINTMENT 188 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,120 PROCESS. 189 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,520 ANOTHER IMPORTANT IS KEVIN 190 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,440 WILLIAMS AND WHO IS APPOINTED 191 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,200 DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE NIH 192 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:45,640 OFFICE OF EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND 193 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:45,880 INCLUSION. 194 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,080 IT'S REFERRED TO AS EDI. 195 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,000 ALSO Dr. NINA SHORE APPOINTED 196 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,760 AS THE NIH ACTING DEPUTY 197 00:07:52,760 --> 00:08:02,000 DIRECTOR FOR IN TR FOR INTRAMURAL RESEARCH 198 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,600 AND SHE CAME FROM NAINDS. 199 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,640 THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND 200 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,520 HUMAN SERVICES HAS ANNOUNCED 201 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,440 Dr. ADAM RUSSELL HAS BEEN 202 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:17,960 SELECTED BY SECRETARY FOR THE 203 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,640 ADVERSE RESEARCH PROJECT AGENCY 204 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,840 FOR HELP OR ARPA-H SO WE'RE 205 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,240 LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW 206 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:30,320 THIS IS GOING TO HELP MOVE THIS 207 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,400 INITIATIVE FORWARD. 208 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,560 NOW FOR SOME NCCIH STAFF 209 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:34,800 UPDATES. 210 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,400 WE'RE WELCOMING A NEW PROGRAM 211 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,040 DIRECTOR TO JOIN ME AND 212 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,440 WELCOMING A PROGRAM DIRECTOR IN 213 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,240 THE BASIC MECHANISTIC RESEARCH 214 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:47,680 BRANCH HERE AT NCCIH. 215 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:48,840 HE MANAGED AND DISTRICTS 216 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,080 PORTFOLIO WITH AN EMPHASIS ON 217 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,000 BOTANICALS AND RELATED DIE 218 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,920 STARRY SUPPLEMENTS FOR DRUG 219 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,160 INTERACTIONS AND ETHNO MEDICINE. 220 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,000 Dr. STILL WAS PREVIOUSLY IN 221 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,440 THE OFFICE OF SCIENTIFIC REVIEW 222 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,200 AT NCCIH WHERE HE WORKED AS A 223 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,000 SCIENTIFIC OFFICER. 224 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:13,760 AS ALWAYS, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW 225 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,240 STAFF TO WELCOME AND EXTRA MUR 226 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:21,640 AVERMURAFFAIRS AND WE'VE HAD A NUMBER 227 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,640 OF STAFF DEPARTURE BOTH IN OUR 228 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,600 EXTRAMURAL AND INTRAMURAL 229 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,040 RESEARCH DEPARTMENT. 230 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,840 I'M NOW SHARING THIS BUDGET 231 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,400 UPDATE WITH YOU WHICH IS AS 232 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,600 USUALLY THIS BUDGET SPREAD SHEET 233 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,480 IS AVAILABLE IN YOUR COUNCIL 234 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:44,720 PACKET. 235 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:51,640 THIS PARTICULAR VERSION OF THE 236 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,440 MECK TABLE. 237 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,840 WE CAN SHARE OUR APPROVED FY22 238 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:58,960 APPROPRIATED BUDGET AND 239 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,040 OPERATING PLAN WHICH WILL 240 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,440 CONTINUE TO ADJUST OVER A FISCAL 241 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,000 YEAR BASED ON PROGRAM PRIORITIES 242 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,640 AND PI BUDGETS. 243 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,760 SO, HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN 244 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,080 SEE IN THIS COLUMN, THE FY22. 245 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,240 IN THE FY23 COLUMN YOU ARE 246 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,840 SEEING THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET 247 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,480 AND AS IS OFTEN THE CASE, WE 248 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,920 WERE NOT ABLE TO SAY ANYTHING 249 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,520 ABOUT THIS FOR NOW EXCEPT, THAT 250 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,920 WE CAN MENTION THAT THERE WAS A 251 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,920 BILL PASSED IN THE HOUSE IN JULY 252 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,160 THAT PROPOSED SOME INCREASE IN 253 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:41,120 THIS BUDGET FOR NCCIH AS WELL AS 254 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:41,840 THE SENATE MARKUP THAT ALSO 255 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,440 FURTHER INCREASED INCLUDING SOME 256 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,880 ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR PAYING 257 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,440 RESEARCH, HOWEVER, WE WANT TO BE 258 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,240 VERY CAUTIOUS AS TO REMEMBER 259 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,240 LAST YEAR, WE HAD A SIMILAR 260 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,480 SITUATION FOR FY22 WHERE THERE 261 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,480 WAS SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR 262 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,880 PAYING RESEARCH FOR NCCIH IN THE 263 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:02,960 PRESIDENT'S BUDGET THAT DIDN'T 264 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,360 COME TO PASS SO WE'RE GOING TO 265 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,120 BE OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, VERY 266 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,160 CAUTIOUS IN INTERPRETING THIS. 267 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,320 IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE 268 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,240 THINKING ABOUT NCCIH IN TERMS OF 269 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:13,640 THIS. 270 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,240 SO, WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE 271 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,400 BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO LIKELY 272 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,400 BE IN A CONTINUING RESOLUTION 273 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,680 FOR SOME TIME SO IT'S GOING TO 274 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:25,920 BE A WHILE BEFORE WE KNOW IT. 275 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,640 IN TERMS OF SOME PROGRAM NEWS, 276 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,200 ONE EXCITING PIECE OF NEWS WE 277 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,640 CAN'T SHARE YET BUT VERY SOON IN 278 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,080 A COUPLE OF DAYS, THE AWARDS 279 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,320 WILL BE ANNOUNCED FOR THE BRIDGE 280 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,560 TO A.I. PROGRAM WHICH I HAVE 281 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:43,520 SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE. 282 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,440 THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS A 283 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,040 VERY AMBITIOUS, COMMON FUND 284 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,640 PROGRAM THAT NCCIH IS ONE OF THE 285 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,440 CO-LEADS ON IT. 286 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,200 IT'S REALLY DESIGNED TO PROPEL 287 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,480 MEDICAL RESEARCH FORWARD SETTING 288 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,240 THE STAGE FOR WIDESPREAD A COPS 289 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,280 OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND 290 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,520 THE TACKLE COMPLEX BIOMEDICAL 291 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,920 CHALLENGES BEYOND HUMAN 292 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,480 INTUITION AND THAT INCLUDES THE 293 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,160 CHALLENGE OF UNDERSTANDING 294 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,240 HEALTH AND WE ARE VERY MUCH 295 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,440 LOOKING FORWARD TO WHEN THESE 296 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,720 ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL BE ANNOUNCED 297 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,200 VERY SHORTLY AND WE'LL BE HAVING 298 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,280 SOME MESSAGE MESSAGES ABOUT THIS VERY 299 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,720 SOON AND I'LL GIVE YOU DETAILS 300 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,320 ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AT THE NEXT 301 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,880 COUNCIL MEETING IN JANUARY. 302 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:42,080 THE NIH IS ALSO ISSUE REQUEST 303 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:48,280 FOR INFORMATION OR RFI ON FOR 304 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,440 GATHER INFORMATION ABOUT 305 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,040 CANNABIS RESEARCH AND SO THIS IS 306 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,120 SPECIFICALLY TO GATHER 307 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,160 INFORMATION ABOUT BARRIERS AND 308 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,640 SCIENTIFIC INTEREST AND NEEDS 309 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,560 ASSOCIATED WITH THERAPEUTIC 310 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:01,680 CANNABIS FOR CAN A BOYD RESEARCH 311 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:05,000 FOR INVESTIGATORS CONDUCTING OR 312 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,600 INTERESTED IN CONNECT NORTH 313 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,240 RESEARCCONNECTING THISRESEARCH. 314 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,520 CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE. 315 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,960 THE RESPONSES ARE YOU CAN SUBMIT 316 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,720 RESPONSES UNTIL OCTOBER 15th 317 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,240 OCTOBER 15th AND IT WILL BE 318 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,240 VERY AT NCCIH AS IT SEEKS TO 319 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,600 ADDRESS THE RESEARCH 320 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,360 INFRASTRUCTURE AND MEET AND 321 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,920 IDENTIFY AREAS. 322 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,440 I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THIS VERY 323 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,520 INTERESTING MAJOR MILESTONE IN 324 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,840 THE DEVELOPMENT OF CYTO SEEN FOR 325 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,440 SMOKING CESSATION. 326 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,160 IT'S A PLANT-BASED FOUND IN THE 327 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,320 SEED OF A GOLDEN RAIN TREE PLANT 328 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,520 AND IT'S A PARTIAL AGONIST OF 329 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,360 NICOTINE RECEPTORS AND TO DATE, 330 00:13:54,360 --> 00:14:07,640 THE PHASE 3 TRIAL I'M PUTTING 331 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,200 HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A LANDMARK 332 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,280 STUDY THAT WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING 333 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,600 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FOR QUITE 334 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,520 SOME TIME OF CYTISINICLINE. 335 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,440 I WANT TO POINT OUT ANOTHER 336 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,240 REQUEST FOR INFORMATION THAT IS 337 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,520 CLOSED NOW BUT I'M GOING TO 338 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,080 TELLING YOU ABOUT THIS IN THE 339 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:25,960 AFTERNOON SESSION. 340 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,560 THIS WAS THE INFORMATION TO 341 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,080 IDENTIFY A SET OF DETERMINANTS 342 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,840 FOR WHOLE PERSON HEALTH AND YOU 343 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,760 HAD A VERY ROW BOOST TALKING 344 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,160 ABOUT IN DETAIL THIS AFTERNOON. 345 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,720 ALSO, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR 346 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,400 ATTENTION TO THE NCCIH CLINICAL 347 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,280 RESEARCH TOOLBOX THAT WAS 348 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,080 REDESIGNED ON OUR WEBSITE AND 349 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:55,480 THIS IS REALLY A VERY IMPORTANT 350 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,480 INITIATIVE THROUGH OUT NCCIH FOR 351 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,680 ALL THE DIFFERENT BRANCHES AND 352 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,840 OFFICES TO DEVELOP BASED ON THE 353 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,640 FEEDBACK FROM YOU FROM COUNCIL 354 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,960 AND ABOUT INVESTIGATORS ABOUT 355 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,200 HELPING TO CLARIFY A LOT OF 356 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,880 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CLINICAL 357 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,640 TRIAL, REGULATORY PROCESS 358 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,080 INCLUDE OVERSIGHT, LEVELS OF 359 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,600 CLINICAL TRIALS, REGULATED 360 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,640 PRODUCTS, AND I ENCOURAGE TO YOU 361 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,440 GO TO THE SITE AND CHECK IT OUT 362 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,240 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NEW 363 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,640 ORGANIZED INFORMATION HERE AND 364 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,840 WAYS THAT ARE USER FRIENDLY AND 365 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,440 THEY WILL HELP YOU VERY MUCH IN 366 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,320 THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING THE 367 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,000 CLINICAL TRIALS AND 368 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,600 UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE 369 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,560 REGULATORY PROCESS. 370 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,840 NOW, LET'S LOOK AT SOME RESEARCH 371 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,360 HIGHLIGHTS. 372 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,960 SO, SOME A LOT OF INTERESTING 373 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,960 PAPERS THAT JUST WANT TO POINT 374 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,440 OUT. 375 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,520 FIRST, A RECENTLY PUBLISHED 376 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,080 STUDY IN NATURE, PARTIALLY 377 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,040 FUNDED BY NCCIH. 378 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,040 RESEARCHERS AT HARVARD MEDICAL 379 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,800 SCHOOL IDENTIFIED A SPECIFIC 380 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,040 BACTERIAL MEMBRANE MOLECULE 381 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,920 RESPONSIBLE FOR IMMUNO 382 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,000 MODULATORY PROPERTIES OF THE GUT 383 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,040 BACTERIUM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW 384 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:27,960 TO PRONOUNCE IT, AKKERMANSIIA 385 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:28,240 MUNINIPHLIA. 386 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,400 ANOTHER REALLY INTERESTING STUDY 387 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,800 CONDUCTED BY RESEARCHERS AT 388 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,320 ORGAN HEALTH SCIENCE UNIVERSITY 389 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,200 FUNDED BY NCCIH AND THE NATIONAL 390 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,040 INTEREST OF AGING AND NATIONAL 391 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,880 CENTER FOR ADVANCES AND 392 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,200 TRANCATIONAL SCIENCE ANALYZED 393 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,960 THE IMPACT OF DEEP BREATHING ON 394 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:53,000 CSF DYNAMICS. 395 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,160 HERE IS ANOTHER INTERESTING 396 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,080 DEVELOPMENT IN SORT OF LONG-TERM 397 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,640 STUDY OF THE CLINICAL TRIAL 398 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,880 LOOKING AT A GROUP OF DIETARY 399 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,360 SUPPLEMENTS TO PREVENT 400 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,000 AGE-RELATED MACULAR DEGENERATION 401 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,040 AND THIS RECENTLY PUBLISHED 402 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,280 PAPER IS ANALYZED 10-YEAR DATA 403 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,800 FROM THE SECOND FORMULATION OF 404 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,360 THIS AREDS SUPPLEMENTS. 405 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:24,480 THE INITIAL STUDY HAD FOUND AN 406 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,560 INCREASE RISK OF LUNG CANCER IS 407 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,080 SMOKERS ASSOCIATED WITH ONE OF 408 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,560 THE PARTICULAR COMPONENTS OF THE 409 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,120 SUPPLEMENTS THAT A CAR A TEEN 410 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:38,520 AND THE FOLLOWING STUDY BY 411 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,200 SUBSTITUTING GLUE TEENY LIMB 412 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,120 NATURED THE CANCER RISK AND 413 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:44,280 INCREASED THE BENEFICIAL EFFECTS 414 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,360 ON THE MACULAR DEGENERATION. 415 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:47,960 INTERESTINGLY, HOWEVER, THERE 416 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,400 WAS A SECONDARY ANALYSIS THAT 417 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,080 WAS INDEPENDENTLY DONE OF THE 418 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,640 INITIAL DATASET FOUND THAT THE 419 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,480 BENEFITS OF THE ORIGINAL FORMULA 420 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,560 WERE RESTRICTED TO PATIENTS 421 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,240 WHOSE DIETS WERE HIGH IN MEAT 422 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,040 AND FAT AND LOW IN FISH AND 423 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:03,440 VEGETABLES. 424 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,440 SO THIS REALLY UNDER SCORED THE 425 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,480 IMPORTANCE OF UNDERSTAND BEING 426 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,040 THE ROLE OF NOT ONLY THE DIETARY 427 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,280 SUPPLEMENTS BUT THE CONTEXT OF 428 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,560 THE DIET AND LIFESTYLE. 429 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,480 THERE'S ANOTHER INTERESTING 430 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,560 STUDY MINDFULNESS TRAINING IN 431 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,320 ITS EFFECT ON IMMUNE FUNCTION 432 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,800 WHEN IT FOUND LONELY OLDER 433 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,280 ADULTS, ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY 434 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,080 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURG 435 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:36,240 AND FUNDED BY NCCIH AND THE ACT 436 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,600 OF THIS MINDFULNESS INCREASED 437 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,920 THE ABILITY OF IMMUNE CELLS TO 438 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,080 RELEASE IL6 IN RESPONSE TO 439 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,840 STIMULATION IN VITRO AND THIS IS 440 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,840 CONSIDERED ONE OF THE IMPORTANT 441 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,520 MARKERS ON IMMUNE SYSTEM 442 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,200 FUNCTION AND DECLINES WITH AGE 443 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,480 AND ALSO PSYCHOSOCIAL STRESS SO 444 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:01,640 THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING 445 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,480 COMPLEX INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE 446 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,000 NERVOUS SYSTEM AND THE IMMUNE 447 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:04,720 SYSTEM. 448 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,160 HERE IS ANOTHER INTERESTING 449 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,800 STUDY BY Dr. JUSTIN SUNNENBERG 450 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,120 GROUP POPULATIONS AROUND THE 451 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,880 GLOBE GUT FOUND THAT LIFESTYLES 452 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,240 COMPARING LIFESTYLES FROM HUNTER 453 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,520 GATHERERS TO TRANSITIONAL HUMAN 454 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,720 COMMUNITIES AND INDUSTRIAL 455 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,040 POPULATIONS, FOUND IMPACT ON THE 456 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,400 INFANT GUT MICROBIOME 457 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:26,680 DEVELOPMENT. 458 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,520 ANOTHER EXCITING NEW PUBLICATION 459 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,320 IN THE FIELD DESCRIBING KNEW OWE 460 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,120 PSYCHE ET CETERA AND SPINAL CORD 461 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:38,800 TO THE HYPOTHALIMUS, TO 462 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,160 CESSATIONS OF SOCIETY AND 463 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,880 REBURGS IN (INAUDIBLE) IT'S 464 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,120 STILL VERY INTERESTING. 465 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:49,920 FINALLY, AN IMPORTANT STUDY FROM 466 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,600 RICH DAVIDSON'S GROUP SOUGHT TO 467 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,080 VALIDATE THE FINDINGS FROM A FEW 468 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,480 SMALL STUDIES TO SHOW THAT A FEW 469 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,840 WEEKS OF TRAINING AND 470 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:00,440 MINDFULNESS-BASED STRESS 471 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,840 REDUCTION CAN LEAD TO MEASURABLE 472 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,360 CHANGES IN BRAIN STRUCTURE. 473 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:05,920 THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE 474 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,200 PREVIOUS STUDIES WERE HIGHLY 475 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,040 EXCITED IN THE POPULAR MEDIA 476 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,040 ESPECIALLY HAD GREAT REALLY 477 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,560 AMPLIFIED THESE FINDINGS BUT THE 478 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,200 CURRENT CONTEXT IS THIS MORE 479 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,120 RIGOROUS STUDY FOUND IN LARGER 480 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,280 AND PROPERLY POWER STUDIED FOUND 481 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,520 THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT GROUP 482 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,640 DIFFERENCES FOR CHANGES IN 483 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,600 CHANGES IN BRAIN STRUCTURE 484 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,160 EITHER THE WHOLE BRAIN OR 485 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,800 SPECIFIC BRAIN REGIONS FOR NBSR 486 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,160 COMPARED TO AN ACTIVE AND A WAIT 487 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,160 LIST CONTROL GROUPS SO IT'S VERY 488 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:41,080 IMPORTANT IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF 489 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,080 MISTRUST AND SCIENCE THAT WE ARE 490 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,320 REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THE CLAIMS 491 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:54,080 THAT PEOPLE MAKE ABOUT STUDIES. 492 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,120 NOW SOME FUNDING OPPORTUNITY 493 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:56,720 ANNOUNCEMENTS. 494 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,520 THE FIRST IS WE CALL REACH WHICH 495 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,240 IS RESEARCH ACROSS COMPLIMENTARY 496 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,880 AND INTEGRATED HEALTH 497 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,240 INSTITUTIONS. 498 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,240 THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT 499 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,840 OPPORTUNITY AND WE ARE TALKING 500 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:08,880 ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 501 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,360 THIS IS TO DEVELOP VIRTUAL 502 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:15,360 RESOURCE CENTERS. 503 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:17,440 THIS IS TO FOSTER INSTITUTIONAL 504 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,040 PARTNERSHIPS AND PROVIDE 505 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,040 RESOURCES TO SUPPORT RESEARCH 506 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,040 ACTIVITIES AND RESEARCH TRAINING 507 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,400 FOR FACULTY, WHO WORK AT 508 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,080 ACCREDITED COMPLIMENTARY AND 509 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,400 INTEGRATED HEALTH CLINICAL 510 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:36,280 INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS SCHOOLS OF 511 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,640 ACUPUNCTURE, CHIROPRACTOR AND ET 512 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:37,840 CETERA. 513 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,840 THIS IS A IMPORTANT RESOURCE 514 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,240 THAT WILL PROVIDE SERVICES AND 515 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,520 RE SOURCES INCLUDING BUT NOT 516 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,640 LIMITED TO, ADMINISTRATIVE 517 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,280 SUPPORT, RESEARCH SUPPORT, GRANT 518 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,280 MANSHIP, MENTORING, TRAINING AND 519 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,920 TEAM BUILDING TO SUPPORT 520 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,560 CLINICIANS SCIENTISTS, LOCATED 521 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,440 AT COMPLIMENTARY AND INTEGRATED 522 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,480 HEALTH CLINICAL INSTITUTIONS TO 523 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,520 FORM, MULTI AND INTER 524 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,360 DISCIPLINARY RESEARCH TEAMS AND 525 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,920 PURSUE EXTERNALLY FUNDED 526 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,960 RESEARCH ALIGNED WITH NCCIH FOR 527 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,040 SYMPTOM MANAGEMENT. 528 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,240 SO WE REALLY WANT TO STRESS THIS 529 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,440 THIS IS MEANT TO REALLY KIND OF 530 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,160 VERY MUCH ENCOURAGE THE 531 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,800 COLLABORATIONS BETWEEN 532 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,680 CLINICIANS WHO ARE AT THESE 533 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,240 INSTITUTIONS AND RESEARCH 534 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,440 INTENSIVE INSTITUTIONS AND 535 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,520 REALLY BUILD THESE TEAMS THAT 536 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,200 WILL ALLOW THE KIND OF RESEARCH 537 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,480 TO REALLY BE INFORMED BY 538 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,720 CLINICAL PRACTICES AND SO IT'S 539 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,080 VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 540 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,520 THE NEXT IS A NOTICE OF SPECIAL 541 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,840 INTEREST FOR ADMINISTRATIVE 542 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,480 SUPPLEMENTS FOR COMPLIMENTARY 543 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,880 HEALTH PRACTITIONER RESEARCH 544 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,640 EXPERIENCE. 545 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,920 ANOTHER IMPORTANT EFFORT THAT 546 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,720 WE'RE DOING TO REALLY INCREASE 547 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,560 THE ABILITY OF CLINICALLY 548 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,000 TRAINED PRACTITIONERS TO DO 549 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,560 BETTER RESEARCH AND BE FUNDED TO 550 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,440 DO RESEARCH. 551 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,960 SO THIS IS AN INTENSIVE 552 00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,600 SUPERVISED RESEARCH EXPERIENCE 553 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,920 THAT WILL LEAD TO BETTER 554 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,440 UNDERSTANDING AND A PRACTICAL 555 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,200 EXPERIENCE IN COMPLIMENTARY AND 556 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,440 INTEGRATED HEALTH RESEARCH. 557 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,280 SO, TRACTOR-TRAILER NEXT IS A 558 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,240 RESEARCH RESOURCE CENTER TO 559 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:20,080 BUILD AN OPEN ACCESSORY POS TORI ACCESS RE POSITORY 560 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,080 FOR ACU POINTS AND THIS IS ALSO 561 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,840 AN INITIATIVE THAT WOVE BEEN 562 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,440 WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME 563 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,080 AND FOLLOWED A SUCCESSFUL 564 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,720 WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD SEVERAL 565 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,640 YEARS AGO ALREADY AND REALLY 566 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,640 POINTED TO THE NEED FOR CREATING 567 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,560 A COMPREHENSIVE DATABASE THAT 568 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,160 WILL INCORPORATE THE DIFFERENT 569 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,280 ASPECTS OF ACU POINTS FROM 570 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,640 RANGING FROM THE DIFFERENT TERM 571 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,920 TERMINOLOGIES, THE WAY THEY'RE 572 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960 DIE PICKETED IN THE CHINESE 573 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,080 LITERATURE AS WELL AS THE AN TOM 574 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:57,600 ANATOMICAL LOCATIONS OF THESE 575 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:57,840 LOCATIONS. 576 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,200 THIS IS ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT 577 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:05,080 OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE VERY 578 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,320 EXCITED. 579 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,040 ANOTHER IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY 580 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,800 FOSTERING MENTAL, EMOTIONAL AND 581 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,560 BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AMONG CHILDREN 582 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,520 IN SCHOOL SETTINGS AND THE 583 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,120 OPPORTUNITIES FOR MULTI-SITE 584 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:17,840 TRIALS OF COMPLIMENTARY AND 585 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,960 INGRATED HEALTH INTERVENTIONS, 586 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,360 WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. 587 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,720 WE KNOW ESPECIALLY IN THIS 588 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,320 CLIMATE OF DURING AND FOLLOWING 589 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,800 COVID HOW OUR CHILDREN IN 590 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,960 SCHOOLS HAVE REEL SUFFERED IN 591 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,320 TERMS OF STRESS AND EMOTIONAL 592 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,040 PROBLEMS AND WE THINK THIS IS A 593 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,680 TREMENDOUS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE 594 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,440 THAT WILL REALLY HELP TO FOSTER 595 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,600 A GREATER EMOTIONAL WELLBEING 596 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,520 SCHOOL SETTINGS. 597 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,000 SO THE GOAL OF THIS FOA IS TO 598 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,280 PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR A SET OF 599 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,960 MULTI-SITE TRIALS TO IMPROVE 600 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,560 HEALTH APPROACHES DELIVERED IN 601 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840 SCHOOL SETTINGS TO HELP WITH 602 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,920 MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. 603 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,920 ANOTHER NOTICE OF SPECIAL 604 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,440 INTEREST PROMOTING MECHANISTIC 605 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,440 RESEARCH ON THEY ARE YOU'D PICK 606 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:20,880 AND OTHEON THERAPEUTIC AND THISIS ISSUED F OR MULTIPLE NCCIH 607 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,960 INSTITUTES, CENTERS AND OFFICES. 608 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,240 SO, THIS IS AGAIN AS I SAID, 609 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:31,080 THIS IS A REALLY TRANS-NIH 610 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,680 EFFORTS. 611 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,120 THERE ARE SO MANY HIGHLIGHTS, 612 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,600 BUT I REALLY ADVISE YOU TO CHECK 613 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,520 OUT OUR WEBSITE FOR, I'M NOT 614 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,440 GOING INTO DETAIL FOR ALL OF 615 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,720 THESE BUT THOSE THAT ARE LISTED 616 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:50,040 ON THIS PAGE ARE ALL STILL OPEN. 617 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,120 RESEARCH ON INTER RECEPTION, 618 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,040 FUNDAMENTAL SCIENCE, APPROACHES, 619 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,400 NATURAL PRODUCTS, MUSIC AND 620 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,480 HEALTH AND SO PLEASE DO GO CHECK 621 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,240 OUT OUR WEBSITE. 622 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,720 I'M NOW GO TO TURN TO THE HEAL 623 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,560 INITIATIVE UPDATES. 624 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:13,280 SO, WE ALREADY HAD PREVIOUS, WE 625 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,840 TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT. 626 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,160 THE INITIATIVE FOR PRAGMATIC AND 627 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,640 IMPLEMENTATION STUDIES FOR THE 628 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,360 SICKLE CELL DISEASE IS THIS 629 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,640 PARTICULAR ONE IS FOR CLINICAL 630 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:30,440 TRIALS THAT ARE OPTIONAL AND THE 631 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,040 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WEBINAR 632 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,640 THAT OCTOBER 4th FOR ANYBODY 633 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,560 WHO WAS INTERESTED AND REALLY 634 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:45,520 STRONGLY ADVISE YOU TO THIS IS 635 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,400 THE PAIN MANAGEMENT FOR CLINICAL 636 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,240 TRIALS REQUIRED AND BOTH OF 637 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,440 THESE ARE FOR THE UG3-UH3 638 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,160 MECHANISM FOR COOPERATE TIVE 639 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,640 AGREEMENTS AND TECHNICAL 640 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,000 ASSISTANCE WEBINAR OCTOBER 4th 641 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,280 OCTOBER 4th. 642 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,480 THIS IS FOR THE PREVENTION AND 643 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,640 MANAGEMENT OF CHRONIC PAIN IN 644 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,720 RURAL POPULATIONS BY THE HEAL 645 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,200 INITIATIVE AND THIS 646 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,160 PARTICULAR -- THIS APPLICATION 647 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,680 DUE DATE IS NOVEMBER 15th. 648 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,960 PAST ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS SO WE 649 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,680 HAVE VERY SUCCESSFUL INTEGRATED 650 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,240 MEDICINE LECTURE SUR HE'S AND WE 651 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,440 CALL IT ILMS AND WONDERFUL 652 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,480 LECTURE ON WELLBEING AND 653 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,240 ECONOMIC BURDEN OF DISEASE FROM 654 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,400 MICHELLE MARTIN AND THAT WAS IN 655 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,520 MAY AND THIS LECTURE IS ARCHIVED 656 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:46,200 ON NIH VIDEO CAST AND WE ALSO 657 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,000 HAD A LECTURE ON ADVANCING 658 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,240 RESEARCH ON EMOTIONAL WELLBEING 659 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,760 AND THE REGULATION OF EATING. 660 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,040 THEY'RE ALSO ARCHIVED. 661 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:13,960 PAST EVENTS, WE HAD PAIN CO CON -- I 662 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,240 MENTIONED SOME VIRTUAL TRAINING 663 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,160 WORKSHOPS SO THIS IS FOR THE 664 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,480 WHOLE-PERSON HEALTH RESEARCH 665 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,440 CAREERS SO SEPTEMBER 15th AND 666 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,440 16th COMING UP VERY SOON. 667 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,960 AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT ENDING, 668 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,320 INTERESTING CONFERENCE ON LIMB 669 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:40,520 FAD I CACONFERENCE LYMPHATICSYSTEMS AND TH IS IS A TRANS-NIH 670 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080 INTEREST GROUP IN LYMPHATIC 671 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,360 RESEARCH. 672 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,840 THIS IS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, 673 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,640 THE REACH VIRTUAL CENTER 674 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,280 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WEBINAR, 675 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,720 SEPTEMBER 21st, THE DATA 676 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,040 MANAGEMENT SHARING POLICY. 677 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,920 A TWO-PART WEBINAR SERIES. 678 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,320 I'M SORRY, THIS IS GOING TOO 679 00:28:59,320 --> 00:28:59,560 FAST. 680 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,120 SHARING POLICY AND ANOTHER 681 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,680 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WEBINAR. 682 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040 WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER. 683 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,520 SICKLE CELL DISEASE AND PAIN 684 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,880 MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE 685 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,200 OCTOBER 4th. 686 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,600 REPOSITORY FORT ACUPUNCTURE AND 687 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,000 DATABASE WEBINAR IN 688 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,920 OCTOBER 6th. 689 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,920 HOT TOPIC WEBINAR ON EMERGING 690 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,760 PRODUCTS AND METHODOLOGIES 691 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,400 NOVEMBER 7th AND SAVE THE DATE 692 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,320 FOR OUR STRAUSS LECTURE. 693 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,040 Dr. LAURA STRAUSS FROM BROWN 694 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,560 UNIVERSITY AND SHE'S GOING TO BE 695 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:34,440 TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONAL IN YOUNG 696 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:40,320 CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS. 697 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,280 NEXT MEETING, SAVE THE DATE WITH 698 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,520 2023 AND ALL RIGHT, WELL, I WENT 699 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,840 OVER AND I APOLOGIZE. 700 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,640 IT'S ALWAYS TOO MUCH TO SAY. 701 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,920 SO, THAT'S IT FOR ME. 702 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,920 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? 703 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,440 >> THANK YOU. 704 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,800 >> I SAW AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR A 705 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080 KO2 PROGRAM, INTERNAL KO2 706 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,400 PROGRAM YOU DIDN'T MENTION. 707 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,000 IS IT SOMETHING YOU ARE DEVELOP 708 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,480 ORGANIZE BORROWING FROM OTHER 709 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:17,720 NIHs? 710 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,640 >> WE'VE ANNOUNCED THIS ONE 711 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:21,840 BEFORE. 712 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,840 I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE ONES 713 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,240 THAT ARE NEW RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I 714 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,840 CAN'T GO THROUGH ALL THE OF THE 715 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,400 OPPORTUNITIES ANNOUNCEMENTS. 716 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560 BUT LENA HAS PUT IN A CHART THE 717 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,120 INFORMATION REGARDING THIS. 718 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,320 >> THANK YOU. 719 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Dr. TAYLOR. 720 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 >> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY 721 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,240 THANK YOU AND COMMEND NCCIH 722 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,240 LEADERSHIP AND STAFF FROM THOSE 723 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,440 INITIATIVES TO SUPPORT RESEARCH 724 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,680 CAPABILITY AND HEALTH 725 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,760 PRACTITIONERS AND I KNOW IT'S 726 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,240 BEEN A LONGSTANDING CHALLENGE. 727 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,280 I MEAN REALLY GOING BACK 15 PLUS 728 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,520 YEARS. 729 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,120 IT'S GREAT TO SEE IT BUBBLING UP 730 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,080 TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. 731 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,600 THANK YOU FOR THAT. 732 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,640 AND SIMILARLY, I REALLY WANT TO 733 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,560 THANK YOU FOR THE RFA AIMING AT 734 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,120 SCHOOL-BASED INTERVENTIONS 735 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,640 BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN 736 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,440 WE TALK ABOUT WHOLE-PERSON 737 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,680 HEALTH, STARTING WITH KIDS AND 738 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,640 STARTING IN SCHOOLS WHERE ALL 739 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,160 THE KIDS ARE, I THINK IT'S JUST 740 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,800 REALLY SORT OF AN INDISPENSABLE 741 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,560 CONCEPT SO I'M JUST REALLY 742 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,440 THRILLED TO SEE US TACKLING 743 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:37,640 THAT. 744 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,000 I THINK IT'S GREAT AND I JUST 745 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,160 WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR 746 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,360 THAT. 747 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,000 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: THANK 748 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,640 YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. 749 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,040 IT'S INTERESTING WHAT YOU SAID 750 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,400 ABOUT THE VIRTUAL RESEARCH 751 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,600 CENTERS AND WE HAD SO MANY 752 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,440 DISCUSSIONS AT COUNCIL ABOUT 753 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,840 THIS WAY BACK WHEN I USED TO BE 754 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,560 ON COUNCIL. 755 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,440 AND IT WAS ONE OF OUR COUNCIL 756 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,080 MEMBERS PATRICIA HERMAN WHO 757 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,400 REALLY LED THE WAY HERE. 758 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,440 THEY STARTED A VIRTUAL RESEARCH 759 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,080 CENTER FOR THE RAM CORPORATION 760 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,960 AND REALLY SHOWED IT COULD DO 761 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,480 THIS AND THIS REALLY INSPIRED US 762 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,720 AND SHE WAS REALLY VERY MUCH OF 763 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,840 AN ADVOCATE FOR THIS AND WE 764 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,400 LISTENED. 765 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,840 AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE A 766 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,560 GAME CHANGER. 767 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,200 I REALLY FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SO 768 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,760 MANY BARRIERS TO SUBMITTING 769 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,480 GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT FROM 770 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,600 INSIDE N NCCIH WE DO ALWAYS KNOW 771 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,480 HOW DAUNTING A TASK IT IS TO 772 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040 SUBMIT A COMPETITIVE GRANT 773 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:36,360 APPLICATION. 774 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,320 EVEN DETAILS THAT YOU DON'T 775 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:38,640 THINK ABOUT. 776 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,480 HOW DO YOU SET UP A DUNCE NUMBER 777 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,960 AND THINGS THAT ARE ELEMENTARY 778 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,040 BUT HOW TO EVEN RE-- THIS IS A 779 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,560 TOPIC WE'LL TALK ABOUT AGAIN 780 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,000 LATER AT FUTURE COUNCILS. 781 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,680 HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THE COMPLEX 782 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,680 ENVIRONMENT OF FUNDING 783 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,240 OPPORTUNITIES? 784 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,600 THERE ARE SO MANY. 785 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,400 HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHICH ONES 786 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,320 ARE RELEVANT TO WHAT YOU WANT TO 787 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,440 DO AND IN WELL-FUNDED, YOU KNOW, 788 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,760 INSTITUTIONS, THEY HAVE LARGE 789 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,440 NUMBERS OF PEOPLE AND SPONSORED 790 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,600 PROGRAMS, RIGHT TO HELP WITH 791 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,240 THAT BUT AS SMALLER INSTITUTIONS 792 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,280 AND ESPECIALLY AT COMPLIMENTARY, 793 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,840 THEY DON'T HAVE THAT BENEFIT. 794 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,240 SO THIS ATTEMPT, THIS IS AN 795 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,600 ATTEMPT TO FILL THAT IMPORTANT 796 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:32,840 GAP. 797 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,720 SO WE HOPE THAT THIS IS GOING TO 798 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:43,560 REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 799 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,520 ANY OTHER FEEDBACK OR COMMENT OR 800 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:54,800 QUESTIONS? 801 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,320 >> CAN I JUST ASK YOU FOR THIS 802 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,640 APPLICATION FOR THE 803 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,960 COLLABORATIVE APPLICATION WOULD 804 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,960 YOU EXPECT SCHOOLS OF MUSIC TO A 805 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,920 PLOY OR MAJOR ACADEMIC 806 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,880 INSTITUTION AND COLLABORATION 807 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,680 WITH SCHOOLS OF MUSIC OR 808 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,600 ACUPUNCTURE? 809 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,240 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: FOR THE 810 00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:16,040 VIRTUAL RESOURCE CENTERS? 811 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,840 >> YES. 812 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,480 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: YEAH. 813 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:19,720 WHY NOT. 814 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:23,640 I MEAN, ANY SCHOOL AND THAT SORT 815 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,680 OF ARTS AND MUSIC IS PART OF 816 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,440 THIS, YEAH. 817 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,640 AS LONG AS THEY'RE DOING THIS 818 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,160 NOT JUST FOR MUSIC ITSELF BUT A 819 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,520 THERAPEUTIC SENSE MUSIC AS A 820 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,680 THERAPY, YEAH. 821 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,040 >> THIS IS A GREAT, I WAS JUST 822 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,840 WRITING THIS DOWN THAT THIS IS 823 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,640 ACTUALLY AN ADDITIONAL COMPONENT 824 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,040 TO OUR MUSIC AND HEALTH CAPACITY 825 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,280 BUILDING EFFORT THAT YOU KNOW 826 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,920 THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY PROMOTE 827 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:00,120 MORE. 828 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,280 >> THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S 829 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:02,640 JOINED THAT. 830 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,240 >> YES. 831 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:04,840 >> IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 832 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,240 >> IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY 833 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,720 COMPLIMENT THE CONCEPT CLEARANCE 834 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:12,240 THAT ACTUALLY WAS PRESENTED ON 835 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:16,800 THE RESEARCH NETWORKS ON MUSIC 836 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,600 AND HEALTH. 837 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,640 >> RIGHT. 838 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,920 >> I WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP ON 839 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,120 THAT. 840 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,720 I WANTED TO LENA COMMENT ABOUT 841 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,240 THIS RFA BECAUSE I THINK IT 842 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,360 REALLY IS BEEN A LONG TIME 843 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080 COMING AND IT'S REALLY 844 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,640 IMPACTFUL. 845 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,240 >> YES, THANK YOU. 846 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,320 I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THE 847 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,040 ENTHUSIASM FROM COUNCIL FOR THIS 848 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:47,400 RFA AND I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE 849 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,280 FOLKS TO SIGN UP FOR THE 850 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:49,960 TECHNICAL WEBINAR AS WELL. 851 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,680 WE ARE LOOKING TO CREATE AT 852 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,040 LEAST TWO OF THESE RESOURCE 853 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,880 CENTERS TO REALLY PROVIDE 854 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,480 VIRTUAL RESOURCES THAT CAN REACH 855 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,360 MANY DIFFERENT INTERNET GRITTED 856 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,440 HEALTH INSTITUTIONS AND ONE PART 857 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,240 OF THIS IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY 858 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:09,840 REQUIRING THAT THE APPLICANTS 859 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,560 COME IN WITH AT LEAST THREE 860 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,200 PARTNERING INSTITUTIONS OF 861 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,920 DIFFERING CLINICAL AREAS AND SO, 862 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,800 YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY 863 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,040 WANT TO PROMOTE A RESOURCE 864 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,200 CENTER THAT IS JUST FOCUSED ON 865 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,840 CHIROPRACTIC, WE WANT INTER 866 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,680 DISCIPLINARY RESEARCH CENTERS 867 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,640 THAT CONNECT DIFFERENT 868 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,720 DISCIPLINES TOGETHER TO REALLY 869 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:38,240 HAVE THESE MULTI MOTTAL RESEARCH 870 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,320 APPROACHES, ET CETERA. 871 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,840 SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALREADY 872 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,640 BEEN RECEIVING A LOT OF INTEREST 873 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,600 FROM THE COMMUNITY. 874 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,920 I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL E-MAILS AND 875 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,080 HAD SOME REALLY EXCITING 876 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,680 CONVERSATIONS ALREADY SO WE'RE 877 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,000 EXCITED TO SEE. 878 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,760 APPLICATIONS COMING IN FOR THIS 879 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:57,920 ONE. 880 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:06,000 >> THANK YOU Dr. MUDD. 881 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,080 >> THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT IN 882 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:09,920 THE CHAT. 883 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,240 YEAH, A LOT OF THESE I WENT 884 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:12,800 THROUGH REALLY QUICKLY THROUGH 885 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,720 THIS AND REALIZING THAT I 886 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,240 MISREAD THE TIME. 887 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:17,480 I THOUGHT I WAS BEHIND SCHEDULE, 888 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,080 I WAS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, I'M 889 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:21,440 SORRY. 890 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,000 THE IMPORTANT THING IS, CHECK 891 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,960 OUT OUR WEBSITE. 892 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:31,040 ALL OF THIS IS ON OUR WEBSITE 893 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,680 AND YOU KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH 894 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,400 INFORMATION OUT THERE AND THE 895 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,320 IMPORTANT THING IS YOU KNOW, 896 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,600 WHERE ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE 897 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,240 BEING DEVELOPED WITH INPUT, WITH 898 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:52,040 THE INPUT FROM YOU AND ALSO 899 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,600 PLUGGING STRAIGHT INTO OUR 900 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,240 STRATEGIC PLAN SO THIS WILL ALL 901 00:37:55,240 --> 00:38:01,840 FEED ON EACH OTHER. 902 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,400 >> EMILY, DO YOU WANT TO TALK 903 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,680 ABOUT THE ACUPUNCTURE DATABASE 904 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:09,840 RFA. 905 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,640 >> I'M SORRY. 906 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,520 >> THANK YOU. 907 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,640 YES, THIS RFA WILL ACTUALLY 908 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,600 SUPPORT THE MAINTENANCE OF A 909 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,240 REPOSITORY AND DATABASE FOR 910 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,840 COMMONLY USED AND ANNA ATOMICAL 911 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,520 SPA PHYSICAL INDICATIONS AND 912 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,520 OTHER RELEVANT AND AS WELL AS 913 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,440 INTEGRATION WITH OTHER DATABASES 914 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,400 WHICH CORRELATES AND ALSO 915 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,200 CREATES DURING OUR TECHNICAL 916 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,080 ASSISTANCE WEBINAR ON THURSDAY, 917 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,640 OCTOBER 6th, AND I WILL 918 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,800 INCLUDE THE LINK IN THE CHAT AND 919 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,720 ALSO, WE ARE PLANNING TO HOST A 920 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:07,560 SEPARATE WEBINAR ON FUTURE DATES 921 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,240 TOO. 922 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:13,440 >> THANK YOU. 923 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,520 >> Dr. Becky Wagenaar-Miller: SHE IS ONE O F OUR NEW PROGRAM 924 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,680 DIRECTORS AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING 925 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,160 VERY HARD ON THIS AND HER 926 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,320 EXPERTISE IS IN BIG DATA SO THIS 927 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,880 IS GOING TO BE A REALLY, IF WE 928 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,400 THINK OF THIS AS LIKE A RESITA 929 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,120 STONE, A WAY TO TAKE, BECAUSE 930 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:43,680 THE WORLD OF ACUPUNCTURE IS VERY 931 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,040 HETERO GENOUS AND HE HAVE THIS 932 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,320 INFORMATION TIED TO CHINESE 933 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,080 LITERATURE, TRADITIONAL CHINESE 934 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,840 LITERATURE WHERE THE INFORMATION 935 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,880 IS BOTH IN THE TRADITIONAL 936 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,280 CHINESE CHARACTERS AND OPINION 937 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,360 NAMES AND THERE'S THE AN 938 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,680 ATOMICAL LOCATIONS AND THEN 939 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,560 THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORICAL, 940 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,840 CLINICAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT 941 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440 HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT A NEEDLE IN 942 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,880 A CERTAIN LOCATION, BUT HOW DOES 943 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,880 THAT TRANSLATE INTO PHYSIOLOGY 944 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,760 AND THERE REALLY NEEDS OBJECT, 945 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,440 THIS IS HOW WE THINK WITH THIS 946 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,880 IS A RELATIONAL DATABASE THAT 947 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,400 WILL ALLOW TRANSLATION ACROSS 948 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,840 ALL OF THIS AND ONE OF THE 949 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,640 THINGS THAT I THINK IS WHAT 950 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,840 WE'RE GOING TO FIND IS THAT 951 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,160 THESE AN ATOMICAL LOCATIONS, 952 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,440 THESE ACU POINTS ARE WHAT WE 953 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,800 CALL AN ATOMICAL SHORT HAND FOR 954 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,240 DIRECTING THE STIMULATION VIA A 955 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,840 NEEDLE OR SOME OTHER WAY TO A 956 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,880 SPEASPECIFIC LOCATION THAT HAS 957 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,600 PHYSIOLOGICAL PROPERTIES BUT WE 958 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,640 DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE YET, 959 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,640 SOME OF THEM WE KNOW BUT NOT ALL 960 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,520 OF THEM AND SOME OF THESE POINTS 961 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,320 MAY OR MAY NOT BE MEANINGFUL AND 962 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:59,520 NOT ALL OF THEM WOULD HAVE 963 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,160 MEANINGFUL ATTRIBUTES BUT WE 964 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,760 HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. 965 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,160 IT WOULD BE A NICE WAY TO DO 966 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:11,040 THIS IN A VERY SYSTEMATIC WAY. 967 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,400 ALL RIGHT. 968 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,040 ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 969 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,440 I GUESS WE ARE AHEAD AND THAT'S 970 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,720 TOTALLY MY FAULT FOR NOT 971 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,160 SEEING -- I WAS LOOKING AT MY 972 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,560 WATCH AND I WAS NOT LOOKING AT 973 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,120 IT CORRECTLY. 974 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,400 WELL, WE'LL HAVE A LONGER LUNCH 975 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:25,840 BREAK. 976 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,040 HOW ABOUT PARTAP, ARE YOU OK 977 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,560 WITH THAT? 978 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,040 >> YEAH. 979 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,040 SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS 980 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,400 OR COMMENTS OR OBSERVATIONS THEY 981 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,960 WANT TO SHARE NOW, WE CAN GO 982 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,600 AHEAD AND BREAK EARLY FOR LUNCH 983 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,800 WE'LL STILL START THE NEXT 984 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,720 SESSION WILL BE AT 1:30 PROMPTLY 985 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,000 AND WE ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE 986 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,480 BACK AT 1:25 AND THIS IS THE 987 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,200 PRESENTATION BY Dr. MIKE LAUER 988 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:55,920 AND CRAIG HOPP ON DATA 989 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,240 MANAGEMENT AND SHARING AND WE'LL 990 00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:01,480 START THAT PROMPTLY AT 1:30 AND 991 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,840 ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE INVITED, 992 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,040 IF YOU WANT, TO TICK TAKE A LUNCH 993 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,640 BREAK. 994 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,560 WE'RE INFORMAL AND WE HAVE A 995 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,680 LUNCH BREAK ROOM, A VIRTUAL 996 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,880 LUNCH BREAK ROOM WHERE YOU CAN 997 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,640 JOIN WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS 998 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,160 AND NCCIH STAFF AND NO AGENDA, 999 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,440 JUST ENJOYING EACH OTHER'S 1000 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,680 COMPANY AND TALKING ABOUT 1001 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:24,960 WHATEVER. 1002 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,680 YOU CAN COME AND GO AND YOU CAN 1003 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,040 ENTER INTO THAT ROOM AND YOU 1004 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,960 WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN THIS 1005 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,600 OPTION AS SOON AS WE CONCLUDE 1006 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040 THIS MEETING TO JOIN THE VIRTUAL 1007 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,320 LUNCH SESSION AND PEOPLE WILL 1008 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,280 SORT OF BE COMING IN AND OUT SO 1009 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,840 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THERE 1010 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,800 PROMPTLY AND YOU CAN LEAVE WHEN 1011 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,400 YOU WANT. 1012 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,120 YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME AT ALL. 1013 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,320 GO TAKE A WALK, WHATEVER YOU 1014 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,440 WANT TO DO. 1015 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,840 AND THEN THAT VIRTUAL LUNCH ROOM 1016 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,760 WILL CLOSE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES 1017 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,040 BEFORE WE START THE 1:30 1018 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,520 SESSION. 1019 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,040 AND IT WILL BE BACK IN ON VIDEO 1020 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,040 CAST PROMPTLY AT 1:30. 1021 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,920 SO, I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A NICE, 1022 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,280 ENJOYABLE LUNCH. 1023 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,960 I'M GIVING YOU MORE TIME. 1024 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,840 AND WE'LL SEE YOU AUTOMATIC BACK 1025 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,280 HERE AT 1:30 AND THOSE WHO HAVE 1026 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,800 LUNCH VIRTUALLY WITH US, WE'LL 1027 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,440 SEE YOU IN THE LUNCH ROOM. 1028 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,600 THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. 1029 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,280 WILL SEE YOU THEN. 1030 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,200 RECONVENE AFTER OUR LUNCH BREAK. 1031 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,440 AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A 1032 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:28,680 PRESENTATION AND Dr. LANGEVIN, 1033 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,800 YOU WILL INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS. 1034 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,480 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: IT'S MY 1035 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,240 GREAT PLEASURE TO WELCOME MIKE 1036 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:36,520 LAUER FOR EXTRAMURAL RESEARCH AT 1037 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,920 THE NIH AND HE SERVES AS THE 1038 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,320 PRINCIPLE SCIENTIFIC THEATER AND 1039 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,920 ADVISER TO THE DIRECTOR OF NIH 1040 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,200 ON ALL MATTERS RELATED TO THE 1041 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,840 SUBSTANCE, QUALITY AND 1042 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,480 EFFECTIVENESS OF THE NIH 1043 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,320 EXTRAMURAL RESEARCH PROGRAM AND 1044 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:51,680 ADMINISTRATION. 1045 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,640 HE RECEIVED EDUCATION AND 1046 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,560 TRAINING AT POLYTECHNIC, ALBANY 1047 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,320 MEDICAL COLLEGE, HARVARD MEDICAL 1048 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,160 SCHOOL, THE NHLBI FRAMINGHAM 1049 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,480 HEART STUDY. 1050 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,160 HE SPENT 14 YEARS AS THE 1051 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,680 CLEVELAND CLINIC AS PROFESSOR OF 1052 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,080 MEDICINE, EPIDEMIOLOGY AND BIO 1053 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,720 STATISTICS AND DURING HIS TENURE 1054 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,320 AS A CLINIC HE LEAD A RENOWNED 1055 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,120 EPIDEMIOLOGY PROGRAM THAT 1056 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,240 APPLIED BIG DATA FROM 1057 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:21,640 LARGE-SCALE ELECTRONIC DATA WITH 1058 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,800 DIAGNOSIS AND MANAGEMENT OF 1059 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,360 CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE SO, Dr. 1060 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,360 LAUER IS SO KEY TO MAKING SURE 1061 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,560 THAT ALL OF OUR RESEARCH 1062 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,920 ACTIVITIES ARE RUN AT THE BEST 1063 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,680 POSSIBLE CLIP AND BAIT AND 1064 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,840 EFFICIENCY AND QUALITY AND WE'RE 1065 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,360 SO WELCOME TO HAVE HIM HERE 1066 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,560 TODAY. 1067 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,680 TO TELL US ABOUT NEW 1068 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,320 DEVELOPMENTS. 1069 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,280 >> THANK YOU, HELENE. 1070 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,000 I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN. 1071 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,200 THANK YOU, VERY MUCH FOR IN 1072 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,240 INVITING ME TO BE HERE TODAY AND 1073 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:58,320 IT'S MY PLEASURE TO TALK ABOUT 1074 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,120 THE NIH POLICY FOR DATA 1075 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,120 MANAGEMENT IMPLEMENTATION AND 1076 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:02,560 SHARING. 1077 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,320 I'M ONE OF MANY HERE. 1078 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,320 THIS WAS A LARGE TEAM THAT PUT 1079 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:06,880 THIS TOGETHER. 1080 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,760 I WANT TO GIVE PARTICULAR THANKS 1081 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:21,360 TO MY COLLEAGUES, LYRIC AND THEN 1082 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,680 THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE POLICY. 1083 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,320 SO, DATA SHARING IS NOT NEW AND 1084 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,080 HAS BEEN OF HIGH PRIORITY FOR A 1085 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,680 LONG TIME. 1086 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,160 LITERALLY IT GOES TO THE HIGHEST 1087 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,240 LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. 1088 00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:34,640 WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS VICE 1089 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,040 PRESIDENT, WAS OVERSEEING THE 1090 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,080 CANCER MOONSHOT PROGRAM, HE MADE 1091 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,480 DATA SHARING A TOP PRIORITY. 1092 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,200 THE 21st CENTURY CURES ACT WAY 1093 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,960 WAS PASSED BY OVERWHELMING 1094 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,120 BIPARTISAN MAJORITIES IN 1095 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,840 DECEMBER OF 2016, CONTAINED A 1096 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,320 PROVISION THAT STATED THAT THE 1097 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,960 NIH DIRECTOR MAY REQUIRE 1098 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,920 RECIPIENTS OF NIH AWARDS TO 1099 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,680 SHARE SCIENTIFIC DATA, TO THE 1100 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,520 EXTENT FEASIBLE, GENERATE 1101 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,400 INTERESTED NIH AWARDS. 1102 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,040 SO THIS IS LITERALLY COMING FROM 1103 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,680 THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT 1104 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,680 BOTH IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND 1105 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,280 IN THE CONGRESS. 1106 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,120 DATA SHARING IS NOT NEW. 1107 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,960 DATA SHARING POLICIES AT THE NIH 1108 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,240 GO BACK ALMOST 20 YEARS TO 2003. 1109 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,520 THE CURRENT OVERARCHING DATA 1110 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,920 POLICY IS WHAT WE'RE UNDER RIGHT 1111 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,640 NOW, GOES BACK TO 2003. 1112 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,000 THAT APPLIES TO AWARDS OF 1113 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,960 GREATER THAN $500,000 A YEAR IN 1114 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,720 THEIR DIRECT COSTS. 1115 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:33,520 IN 2014, WE ISSUED THE GENOMIC 1116 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,840 DATA SHARING POLICY IN 2016, WE 1117 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,680 TALKED ABOUT THE POLICY ON 1118 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,800 MAKING INFORMATION ABOUT 1119 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,640 CLINICAL TRIALS AVAILABLE AND I 1120 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,320 HAVE A RECOLLECTION WE TALKED 1121 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,720 ABOUT CLINICAL TRIALS AT ONE 1122 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,280 POINT WITH THIS GROUP. 1123 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,720 AND THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF 1124 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,280 OTHER DATA SHARING POLICIES THAT 1125 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,120 HAVE BEEN PUT OUT BY VARIOUS 1126 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,080 I.C.s AND PROGRAMS. 1127 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,560 THIS IS BEEN A LONG-TIME AND 1128 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,800 COMING AND AS I SAID, IT GOES 1129 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,600 THIS PARTICULAR POLICY GOES BACK 1130 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,040 TO 2016 AND THERE HAVE BEEN 1131 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,440 OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY 1132 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,960 COMMENT AND THOSE COMMENTS HAVE 1133 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,320 BEEN INCORPORATED AND THERE WERE 1134 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520 ALSO MULTIPLE OTHER PARTS OF 1135 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,320 GOVERNMENT THAT PARTICIPATED IN 1136 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,320 PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND THE 1137 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,720 FINAL POLICY WAS RELEASED IN 1138 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:18,800 OCTOBER OF 2020. 1139 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520 SO THAT WAS ALMOST TWO YEARS 1140 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:21,840 AGO. 1141 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,120 AND THE POLICY IS TO BE 1142 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,440 EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY OF 2023. 1143 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,480 SO WE DELIBERATELY ALLOWED FOR 1144 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,120 TWO-PLUS YEAR PERIOD BETWEEN THE 1145 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,920 ISSUANCE OF THE POLICY AND THE 1146 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,800 IMPLEMENTATION OF THE POLICY SO 1147 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,480 THAT WE COULD BE AS READY AS 1148 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,120 POSSIBLE. 1149 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,640 NOW, DATA SHARING IS IMPORTANT 1150 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,720 AND NIH WANTS DATA TO BE SHARED. 1151 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:46,920 HOPEFULLY THIS IS FAIRLY 1152 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,160 OBVIOUS. 1153 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,720 AND BY PROMOTING DATA SHARING, 1154 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:51,520 WE ADVANCE A REPRODUCE ABLE 1155 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,520 RESEARCH AND PROMOTE PUBLIC 1156 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,520 TRUST IN RESEARCH. 1157 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,320 THE IDEA OF DATA SHARING AS I 1158 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,520 SAID, IS NOTHING NEW AND THERE 1159 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,200 ARE OTHER FIELDS OF SCIENCE 1160 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,000 WHERE THIS IS ALREADY VERY MUCH 1161 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,920 THE NORM BUT THE ENVIRONMENT 1162 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,920 THAT WE SEE IN BIOMEDICAL 1163 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,800 SCIENCE IS NOT ALL THAT GOOD. 1164 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,920 SO HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A 1165 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,040 SERIES OF PAPERS THAT WAS 1166 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,600 PUBLISHED THIS PAST DECEMBER ON 1167 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,600 AN ATTEMPT TO REPLICATE 193 1168 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,880 EXPERIMENTS FROM 53 HIGH-IMPACT 1169 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,480 PAPERS ON PRE CLINICAL CANCER 1170 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:26,800 BIOLOGY. 1171 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,440 THE BOTTOM LINE HERE WAS THAT 1172 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,880 MANY OF THESE EXPERIMENTS COULD 1173 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,480 NOT BE REPLICATED, SOME OF THEM 1174 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,440 COULD BE. 1175 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,400 BUT ONE OF THE DISTURBING 1176 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,880 ASPECTS OF THIS IS THAT DESPITE 1177 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,400 CONTACTING THE AUTHORS OF THE 1178 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,320 ORIGINAL PAPERS, WE WERE UNABLE 1179 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,520 TO OBTAIN DATA FOR 68% OF THE 1180 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:45,920 EXPERIMENTS. 1181 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,760 SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY 1182 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,160 WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE 1183 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,880 AUTHORS O OF THE ORIGINAL 1184 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:58,320 PAPERS, THEY MOST OF THE TIME 1185 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,480 THEY WERE UP AN TO BELIEVE. 1186 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,440 >> Toni-Marie: GET DATA. 1187 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:14,720 AND THEY LOOKED AT 1791BMC NAMES 1188 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:16,320 HAD A DATA AVAILABLE STATEMENT 1189 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:23,720 WHERE IT WAS IN THE PAPER THAT 1190 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,560 SAID DATA CAN BE OBTAINED DOING 1191 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,920 XY AND Z AND THEY WANT AFTER THE 1192 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,840 AUTHORS OF THE 1792 PAPERS AND 1193 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,520 SAID WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE DATA 1194 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:38,880 AND IN ONLY 7% OF THE INSTANCES 1195 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,240 WHERE DATA WAS PROVIDED, 1196 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,560 HOWEVER, THE NEWS IS NOT ALL 1197 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:42,720 BAD. 1198 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,720 THIS IS A PAPER THAT WAS 1199 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,120 PUBLISHED BY MY FORMER 1200 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,080 COLLEAGUES AT THE NATIONAL HEART 1201 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,840 BLOOD AND INSTITUTE WHERE THEY 1202 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,520 LOOKED AT DATA FROM 100 CLINICAL 1203 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,760 TRIALS THAT THE INSTITUTE HAD 1204 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,240 FUNDED AND THESE WERE 1205 00:49:58,240 --> 00:49:59,920 INDIVIDUAL-LEVEL PATIENT DATA 1206 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,800 MADE AVAILABLE THROUGH A 1207 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,960 REPOSITORY AND FOR 90% OF THE 1208 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,600 TRIALS, DATA WERE REQUESTED AND 1209 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,120 WERE ACTUALLY TAKEN. 1210 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,560 AND THAT FOR NEARLY HALF THE 1211 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,320 TRIALS, ARTICLES WERE PUBLISHED 1212 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,240 AND IN THIS PARTICULAR REPORT 1213 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,680 THEY SAY 277 ARTICLES WERE 1214 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,240 PUBLISHED ON THE BASIS OF DATA 1215 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:26,720 FROM 47 TRIALS SO IN SOME CASES 1216 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:28,640 WE HAVE SHARED DATA BEING USED 1217 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,760 AND ARE BEING USED FOR 1218 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,680 SCHOLARSHIPS AND THEY LOOKED AT 1219 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,920 THE CITATION STATS ON THESE 1220 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,200 ARTICLES AND THIS CITATIONS 1221 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,160 STATS WERE AT LEAST AS GOOD AS 1222 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,560 THE GENERAL PAPERS THAT ARE 1223 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,560 PUBLISHED BY NCCIH FUNDED 1224 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:45,920 AUTHORS. 1225 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,920 LET ME MAKE A COUPLE 1226 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,640 DISCLOSURES, HERE. 1227 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,320 THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME I 1228 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,720 OVERSAW THE DIVISION OF NHLBI SO 1229 00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:59,200 I THINK IT'S AN OUTSTANDING 1230 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,600 REPOSITORY AND BEFORE I CAME TO 1231 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,920 NIH, I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THIS 1232 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,040 AND I DOWNLOADED DATA FROM A 1233 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,840 COUPLE OF TRIALS AND WORKED WITH 1234 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,240 MY COLLEAGUES AND WE PUBLISHED 1235 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:19,920 PAPERS THAT WERE BASED ON THESE 1236 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,840 DATA AND MOST AMERICANS BELIEVE 1237 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:29,000 IN DATA SHARING IN SOME WAYS AND 1238 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,240 THEY BELIEVE SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS 1239 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,960 IF THEY KNOW THE PUBLIC IS 1240 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,040 AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE LESS 1241 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,280 LIKELY TO BELIEVE IT IF THE 1242 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,320 STUDY WAS FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL 1243 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,240 GOVERNMENT OR EVEN WORSE BY 1244 00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:43,600 INDUSTRY. 1245 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,640 I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 1246 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,320 POLICY ITSELF. 1247 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,560 THE POLICY IS VERY SIMPLE. 1248 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,920 THERE HAS TO BE A DATA 1249 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:52,560 MANAGEMENT AND SHARING PLAN WITH 1250 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,760 THE APPLICATION AND WHEN THAT 1251 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:59,760 PLAN IS APPROVED, THERE'S A 1252 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,640 RESPONSIBILITY TO COMPLY WITH 1253 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:01,240 THAT PLAN. 1254 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:02,160 THERE ARE DETAILS. 1255 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,560 ONE QUESTION IS WHAT ACTUALLY IS 1256 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,520 DATA? 1257 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,640 WE HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT 1258 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,920 DATA IS AND THAT IS WRITTEN HERE 1259 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,160 BUT WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IS 1260 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,600 NOT WHAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR 1261 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,320 LAB NOTES AND CASE REPORT FORMS 1262 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,840 AND SAMPLES AND OBJECTION AND 1263 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,560 THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF NIH 1264 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,200 APPLICATIONS LIKE TRAINING OR 1265 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,320 FELLOWSHIP APPLICATIONS OR 1266 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,840 RESOURCE APPLICATIONS AND 1267 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,400 THEY'RE NOT EXPECT TODAY AGAIN 1268 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,120 UT RATE DATA SO THEY DON'T 1269 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,480 APPLY. 1270 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,600 IT WILL BE SHARED AT THE TIME OF 1271 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,320 PUBLICATION AND IF THERE'S NO 1272 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,560 PUBLICATION AND BY THE END OF 1273 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,080 THE AWARD. 1274 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,680 THE GENERAL PHILOSOPHY IS THAT 1275 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,720 DATA SHOULD BE SHARED TO THE 1276 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:55,120 MAXIMUM DEGREE POSSIBLE. 1277 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,920 NOT ALL DATA NEEDS TO BE SHARED. 1278 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,280 ALL DATA HAS TO BE MANAGED BUT 1279 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,600 NOT ALL DATA HAS TO BE SHARED. 1280 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,120 WE RECOGNIZE THERE ARE 1281 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,520 CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE IS 1282 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,080 LEGITIMATE RESTRICTIONS TO DATA 1283 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,320 SHARING AND THAT DEALS WITH 1284 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,120 ISSUES LIKE PRIVY RIGHTS, AND 1285 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,920 CONFIDENTIALITY AND REGULATION 1286 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,720 AND THE PROCESS IS PROSPECTIVE. 1287 00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:21,800 PEOPLE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT 1288 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,720 HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE AND 1289 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:25,480 SHARE THEIR DATA FROM THE GET-GO 1290 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,680 WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR 1291 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,680 THIS INFORMATION AT THE TIME OF 1292 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,040 APPLICATION. 1293 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,600 THERE ARE MAYBE REASONS WHY DATA 1294 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,840 MAY NOT BE SHARED AND NOD 1295 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,160 CONSENT, PRIVACY OR SAFETY OF 1296 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,880 RESEARCH PARTICIPANTS, EXPLICIT 1297 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,840 LAWS INCLUDING STATE, LOCAL OR 1298 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,440 TRIBAL LAWS AND RESTRICTIONS 1299 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,240 BECAUSE OF AGREEMENTS WITH THE 1300 00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:46,600 OTHER PARTIES AND DATAS THAT 1301 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,800 CANNOT PRACTICALLY BE DIGITIZED. 1302 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,000 THERE ARE REASONS THAT ARE NOT 1303 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,720 LEGITIMATE LIKE THE DATA IS TOO 1304 00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:54,960 SMALL AND WE DON'T THINK PEOPLE 1305 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,360 WANT TO USE IT AND WE DON'T 1306 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,120 THINK THERE'S A SUITABLE 1307 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,680 REPOSITORY, I'LL TALK ABOUT 1308 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,800 REPOSITORIES IN JUST A BIT. 1309 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,080 THERE ARE SOME OTHER 1310 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,760 CONSIDERATIONS RELATE TODAY 1311 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,800 TRAVEL SOVEREIGNTY AND AS WELL 1312 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,640 AS SBIR-STTR AWARDS. 1313 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:13,920 THERE'S NO WAY THAT I CAN 1314 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,560 POSSIBLY GO OVER ABSOLUTELY 1315 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,000 EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IN 20 1316 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,240 MINUTES. 1317 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:19,960 I WILL WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE 1318 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,200 PUT OUT A WEBSITE HAS AN EASY TO 1319 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:31,960 REMEMBER URL THAT WAS RELEASED 1320 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,040 IN APRIL AND WORE UPDATING OUR 1321 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,160 CONTENT AND IT'S THE ONLY THING 1322 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,600 THAT COMES OUT OF THIS 1323 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:37,520 DISCUSSION TODAY IS YOU HAVE 1324 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,520 BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS 1325 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,840 WESTBOUND SIDE AND IT'S A HUGE 1326 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,640 AMOUNT OF MATERIAL IN HERE AND 1327 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,120 IT COVERS THE SCIENTIFIC DATA 1328 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,120 AND IT IT COVERS MODEL ORGANISMS 1329 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:02,120 AND CLINICAL TRIALS AND IT HAS 1330 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,320 RESOURCES SO FOR EXAMPLE, 1331 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,320 THERE'S A WIDDARD HERE TO HELP 1332 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,160 YOU FIGURE OUT WHICH POLICIES A 1333 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,960 REPLY TO YOUR RESEARCH IT WALKS 1334 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,280 YOU THROUGH QUESTIONS AND WHERE 1335 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,400 YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT POLICIES 1336 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,800 ARE IMPORTANT AND THEIR 1337 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,680 RESOURCES ON DATA SHARING 1338 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,240 APPROACHES AND HOW TO SELECT A 1339 00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:23,440 REPOSITORY AND AS WELL AS A 1340 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:32,560 EXISTING REPOSITORY AND THE 1341 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:38,320 RESOURCES FOR AND THIS IS NOT 1342 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,400 FRO. 1343 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:49,760 ALSO, SO I GOT YOUR INTERNET IS 1344 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:50,200 UNSTABLE. 1345 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,240 THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS OF A DATA 1346 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:56,760 MANAGEMENT AND SHARING PLAN AND 1347 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,520 THE DOCUMENT GROUND ZERO INTO 1348 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,720 THIS IN A LOT MORE DETAIL BUT 1349 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:01,840 THIS IS THE INFORMATION WE WANT 1350 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,200 TO SEE, WHAT TYPE OF DATA, 1351 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,040 RELATED TOOLS, SOFTWARE CODES 1352 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,720 NEEDED TO ACCESS OR MA LIP 1353 00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:11,960 NATURE THE DATA, STANDARDS, DATA 1354 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,720 PRESSER RACE AND ACCESS AND TIME 1355 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:15,360 LINES AND IMPORTANT ONE IS ABOUT 1356 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:15,600 ACCESS. 1357 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,040 FOR EXAMPLE, CAN SOMEONE JUST 1358 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,640 DOWNLOAD THE DATA AND START 1359 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,920 USING IT OR IS THERE SOME FORM 1360 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,400 OF CONTROLLED ACCESS AND THAT 1361 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:36,840 MAY BE APPROPRIATE AND A 1362 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:43,240 REPOSITORY IS NOT AN EXCEL WEB 1363 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:43,480 SHEET. 1364 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,800 WE HAVE ESTABLISHED REPOSITORY 1365 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,600 AND IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS WE 1366 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,720 PUT OUT BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2020, 1367 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:50,520 THERE WAS A LOT IN THERE ABOUT 1368 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,920 WHAT KINDS OF REPOSITORIES WOULD 1369 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,280 BE BEST AND LET ME MENTION THAT 1370 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,880 A NUMBER OF UNIVERSITIES HAVE 1371 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,720 SET UP THEIR OWN REPOSITORIES, 1372 00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,200 SOME OF THEM ARE OUTSTANDING AND 1373 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,680 THE WHOLE IDEA IS JUST TO MAKE 1374 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,560 IT'S YEAR FOR THEIR OWN 1375 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:05,880 SCIENTISTS. 1376 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,440 THERE ARE MANY KINDS OF REPOS 1377 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:14,240 TIERSRETORIS.SOME HERE AT NIH, THE BEST KN OWN 1378 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,400 ONE IS DB GAP RUN BY THE 1379 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,320 NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE. 1380 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:25,520 THE ONE IN THE LOWER RIGHT 1381 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,920 CORNER LINK I OBTAINED DATA 1382 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,120 FROM. 1383 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,680 THERE ARE SOME FOAs WHERE THE 1384 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,400 I.C. SAYS YOU MUST USE XYZ 1385 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:34,720 REPOSITORY. 1386 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,800 IT'S A TERM AND CONDITION OF THE 1387 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,440 AWARD ITSELF THAT OF COURSE 1388 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,720 MAKES DES MAKING TO USE EASY AND 1389 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,840 THOSE ARE SPECIALISTS REPOSITORY 1390 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,760 AND THERE ARE OTHER RETOSS FOR 1391 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,840 TEASE AND INCLUDING 1392 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,920 INSTITUTIONAL REPOSITORIES AND 1393 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,720 LIBRARIES, WE KNOW THERE ARE A 1394 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,400 NUMBER AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT 1395 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,160 HAVE BEEN GREAT WORK ON. 1396 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,600 PUBMED CENTRAL IS A REPOSITORY 1397 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,480 BUT IT'S FOR SMALL DATASETS. 1398 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,280 IF YOU HAVE A REL I ACTIVELY 1399 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,720 SMALL DATASET YOU CAN POST YOUR 1400 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,360 PAPER AND PUBMED CENTRAL YOU CAN 1401 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,920 POST YOUR DATA THERE AND IT'S 1402 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,640 YOUR REPOSITORY. 1403 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,880 AND THEN THERE ARE A VARIETY OF 1404 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,800 GENERALIST REPOSITORIES AND I'M 1405 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,840 SURE YOU HEARD SOME OF THESE, 1406 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,360 WE'RE NOT ENDORSING THEM BUT 1407 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:31,600 THEY'RE OUT THERE AND IN GENERAL 1408 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,040 THEY'RE QUITE GOOD. 1409 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,080 BUDGET ASKING A BIG ISSUE AND 1410 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:40,840 WE'LL ASK PEOPLE TO PROVIDE US 1411 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:46,040 WITH A BUDGET. 1412 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,040 THERE ARE COSTS THAT ARE NEEDED 1413 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,600 FOR CURATING OR SHARING DATA AND 1414 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,840 COSTS THAT AROUND LAW ABLE THOSE 1415 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,800 COSTS WOULD BE NOW CONSIDERED TO 1416 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,480 BE PART OF INDIRECTS SO THEY 1417 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,200 COMMISSIONED THE NATIONAL 1418 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,360 ACADEMY OF SCIENCES TO PUT 1419 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,880 TOGETHER A REPORT ON BUDGETING 1420 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,240 AND DATA SHARING AND THEY DID 1421 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,440 VERY THOUGHTFUL WORK AND WE 1422 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,400 ANTICIPATE THAT OVER THE FIRST 1423 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,000 YEAR OR SO, OF IMPLEMENTING THIS 1424 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:18,560 POLICY WE'LL LEARN A LOT AND 1425 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,720 ABOUT THE COSTS HERE. 1426 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,320 THE WAY THE MECHANIC WORK IS 1427 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,720 WITH THE APPLICATION, THERE ARE 1428 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,280 TWO PARTS. 1429 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,320 ONE IS A DATA, THE ACTUAL DATA 1430 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,040 SHARING PLAN THAT WOULD BE A 1431 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,920 TWO-PAGE DOCUMENT AND WE HAVE A 1432 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,720 TEMPLATE FOR THAT AND A BRIEF 1433 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:38,720 DESCRIPTION ALONG WITH A NUMBER 1434 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,440 TO HOW MUCH YOU THINK THIS WILL 1435 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,120 ACTUALLY COST. 1436 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,520 WHEN A GRANT COMES IN IT LOOKS 1437 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,400 LIKE THE AGENCY IS INTERESTED IN 1438 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:54,720 FUNDING IT AND IF THEY LIKE IT 1439 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,880 WE'RE DONE AND IT'S INCORPORATED 1440 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,160 INTO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF 1441 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:04,840 AWARD AND IF NOT, THERE MAY BE 1442 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,520 SOME NEGOTIATIONS. 1443 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,880 IT'S BASED ON THE DOCUMENT 1444 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,720 THAT'S WE PUT OUT IN OCTOBER OF 1445 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,240 2020 AND THE PLAN SHOULD BE NO 1446 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,720 MORE THAN TWO PAGES IN LENGTH SO 1447 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,920 WE HAVE THIS FORMAT PAGE RIGHT 1448 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,120 NOW IT'S IN DRAFT FORM BUT WE 1449 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,640 HAVE MADE IT AVAILABLE THROUGH 1450 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,120 THE NIH GUIDE AND WHEN OMB A 1451 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,040 PROVES IT IT WILL BE OFFICIAL. 1452 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,760 AND THERE WILL BE A SPECIFIC 1453 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,080 PLACE WHEN YOU ARE FILLING OUT 1454 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,000 YOUR FORM ELECTRONICALLY TO PUT 1455 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,480 THAT PLAN AND IT WILL BE A 1456 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,320 SPECIFIC PLACE IN THE BUDGET 1457 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:46,560 SECTION FOR WHERE YOU WOULD PUT 1458 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,680 INFORMATION THERE. 1459 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,920 WHEN THE PLAN IS APPROVED IT'S A 1460 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,040 DETERMINE CONDITION OF AWARD AND 1461 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,880 IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IT WILL 1462 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,360 BE FOLLOWED IN PROGRESS REPORTS 1463 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,760 AND ENFORCEMENT ACTION AND JUST 1464 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,720 LIKE ANY OTHER NON-COMPLIANCE 1465 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,160 ISSUES AND WE ARE NOW IN 2022 1466 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:14,800 WHERE APPROACHING THE END OF 1467 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,320 2022 THE POLICY IS EFFECTIVE AN 1468 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:18,760 JANUARY 2023. 1469 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,720 WE'RE WELL ALONG THE ROADMAP TO 1470 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:20,920 2023. 1471 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,720 WE'VE PUT OUT A WEBSITE AND WOVE 1472 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,040 PUT OUT WEBINARS AND FAQs AND 1473 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,240 THERE SOMEWHERE DRAFT THAT'S WE 1474 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,720 PUT OUT ON VARIOUS TOPICS AND WE 1475 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,480 ARE PUTTING OUT A GUIDE NOTICE 1476 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,840 LAST WEEK ON HARMONIZING THE 1477 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,680 DATA MANAGEMENT SHARING POLICY 1478 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,200 WITH THE GENOME SHARING POLICY 1479 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,560 AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL 1480 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,160 THINK ABOUT HOW WE TAKE THIS TO 1481 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,880 A HIGHER LEVEL LIKE HOW DO WE 1482 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,680 ASSESS THE POLICY AND HOW DO WE 1483 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,360 MOVE WHERE SCIENTISTS WANT TO 1484 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,520 SHARE THEIR DATA JUST LIKE THEY 1485 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,320 WANT TO PUBLISH THE RESULT AND 1486 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,840 THAT IS NOT A CHORE OR 1487 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,360 REQUIREMENT BUT RATHER AN 1488 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:02,640 INCENTIVE. 1489 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:08,000 THERE ARE INSTITUTIONS TO HELP 1490 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,280 THINK ABOUT THIS AND YOUR 1491 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,000 COLLEAGUES THINK ABOUT THIS AND 1492 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,680 TRY EXISTING RESOURCES WITHIN 1493 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,480 NUR INSTITUTES AND WE HAVE SEEN 1494 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,120 AMAZING WORK DONE ON DATA 1495 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:26,120 MANAGEMENT DATA SHARING AND DATA 1496 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,480 REPOS TOFFEE AND WE SUGGEST CAN 1497 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,320 YOU TRY PUTTING, TRY DRAFTING 1498 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,200 SOMETHING BASED ON THE WORK THAW 1499 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,400 ALREADY HAVE AND MANY PEOPLE 1500 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,280 HAVE BEEN ALREADY ENGAGING IN 1501 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,000 DATA SHARING FOR A TIME AND 1502 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,920 THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE ALSO A 1503 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:42,720 RESOURCE AND A LOT OF INTEREST 1504 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:51,600 IN THE COMMUNITY ON THIS AND THE 1505 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,520 PAPER ITSELF IS QUITE GENERIC 1506 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,600 AND IT'S NOT LIMITED TO 1507 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:56,600 COMPUTATIONAL BOYOLOGY AND THIS 1508 01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:01,960 IS WRITTEN FROM THE LIBRARY OF 1509 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,040 NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY AND 10 1510 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:05,640 ROOMS OF THE NCCIH DATA 1511 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,120 MANAGEMENT SHARING PLAN AND IT'S 1512 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,120 WORTH A KEYED AND THEY'VE DONE 1513 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,680 VERY NICE WORK AND MY COLLEAGUES 1514 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:19,680 ARE ENGAGE IN EXTENSIVE OUTREACH 1515 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,760 AND WE HAD A WEBINAR WITH LARGE 1516 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,080 ATTENDANTS AND WE HAVE ANOTHER 1517 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:28,920 ONE COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 1518 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,440 SEPTEMBER 22nd TO PLEASE 1519 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,880 SPREAD THE WORD AND PLEASE JOIN. 1520 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,960 THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I FOR 1521 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,400 BEING HERE TODAY AND TO SHARE 1522 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,080 THOUGHTS WITH YOU AND I'LL TURN 1523 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,120 IT BACK TO YOU, PARTAP. 1524 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,120 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 1525 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,520 WE HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND 1526 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,440 ANSWERS FOR COUNCIL WE HAVE A 1527 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,280 FOLLOW-UP PRESENTATION IN THE 1528 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,320 IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED 1529 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,800 AND BY BY Dr. CRAIG HOPP TO 1530 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:14,360 TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC I DO 1531 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,320 SMALL WITHIN SUBJECT 1532 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,200 COUNTERBALANCE STUDIES LOOKING 1533 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,320 AT PHARMACOLOGY AND BEHAVIOR IN 1534 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:22,560 HUMANS. 1535 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:27,520 SO, I DON'T REALLY UP LOAD SO 1536 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,120 FAR AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST 1537 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,280 WHERE WOULD THAT KIND OF GO? 1538 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,520 IT'S A LOT OF BEHAVIORAL DATA 1539 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:35,760 PRIMARILY. 1540 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:41,560 >> I'M GUESSING THIS IS NOT AN 1541 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:48,920 AREA I AM GUESSING THAT ONE 1542 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,960 QUESTION IS HOW BIG ARE YOUR 1543 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:57,120 FILES AND IF THEY'RE SMALL, THE 1544 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:57,960 ANSWER IS PUBMED. 1545 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,360 YOU UP LOAD THE DATA THAT BACK 1546 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,120 UP THE PAPER. 1547 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,240 SO YOU HAVE GOT FIGURES IN YOUR 1548 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:08,320 PAPER AND OR TABLE AND OR 1549 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,160 NUMBERS, THOSE DATA THAT 1550 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,200 GENERATE THOSE NUMBERS IT'S 1551 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,360 EXPECTED AND IF YOU ARE FILES 1552 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,720 ARE RELATIVELY SMALL CAN YOU PUT 1553 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:18,040 IT IN PUBMED CENTRAL AND YOU ARE 1554 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:18,240 DONE. 1555 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,920 IF YOUR MILES ARE BIGGER, IF 1556 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,920 YOUR MILES ARE BIGGER, YOU MIGHT 1557 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,480 WANT TO USE A GENERAL 1558 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,120 REPOSITORIES LIKE FIGURE SHARE 1559 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,800 OR TRIAD AND IT MAY BE BETTER, 1560 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,280 I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH 1561 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,640 THIS SCIENCE, MAYBE THE NEXT 1562 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:38,720 PRESENTATION WE SHOULD FOLLOW-UP 1563 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,000 ON THAT AND THE NCCIH PERSON 1564 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,320 WILL SAY PAY NO ATTENTION TO 1565 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:44,920 WHAT I JUST SAID. 1566 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,000 THEN YOU WILL GET WHAT I'M 1567 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,320 TALKING ABOUT. 1568 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,760 >> EXCEL SPREAD SHEETS IS NOT 1569 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:51,040 THE WAY -- 1570 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,880 >> SO, THE THING IS, WHAT IS NOT 1571 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,480 APPROPRIATE IS AN EXCEL SPREAD 1572 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,120 SHEET ON YOUR LOCAL WEBSITE. 1573 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,960 IF YOU UP LOAD A TABLE, AND IT 1574 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,840 COULD BE AN EXCEL FORMAT BUT YOU 1575 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,520 UP LOAD A TABLE INTO PUBMED 1576 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,320 CENTRAL AND THAT'S WHERE IT 1577 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:07,920 SITS, SO NOW PUBMED CENTRAL IS 1578 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,720 GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 1579 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,960 MAINTAINING IT STAYS THERE AND 1580 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,520 IT MIGHT BE PERFECTLY FINE. 1581 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,720 >> I WAS PART OF A STUDY WHERE 1582 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,200 SOMEONE CONTACTED ME VERY 1583 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,440 GENERIC STATEMENT, PLEASE, SHARE 1584 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,360 YOUR DATA. 1585 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,920 IT WAS NOT A VERY NICE E-MAIL 1586 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,480 AND I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT 1587 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,040 BUT I THINK I WAS PART OF THEIR 1588 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,240 DATA COLLECTION ON THAT FRONT SO 1589 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,720 IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I WAS 1590 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,120 UNSURE HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT 1591 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,280 BUT I GUESS THIS IS GOING TO BE 1592 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,560 THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE. 1593 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,320 >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH FOR THAT 1594 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:43,680 PRESENTATION. 1595 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,800 I THINK IT WAS A MASSIVELY 1596 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,120 IMPORTANT AREA AND WE'VE BEEN ON 1597 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,080 BOTH SIDES OF THIS FRUSTRATED BY 1598 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,720 LACK OF ACCESS TO DATA BUT ALSO 1599 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,480 STRUGGLING WITH GETTING BIG 1600 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,520 DATASETS UP INTO THE FORMAT THAT 1601 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,040 OTHER PEOPLE CAN USE. 1602 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,000 ON THE ONE HAND THERE'S MAKING 1603 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,520 SURE DATA PUBLISHED IS AVAILABLE 1604 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,520 FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS USE REAP LA 1605 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,960 DATE FINDINGS, EXPAND STUDIES. 1606 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,360 ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE'S THE 1607 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:10,520 ISSUES OF THE ITERATION CYCLE. 1608 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:11,720 GETTING DATA UP QUICKLY SO 1609 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,480 DISCOVERIES CAN BE MADE MORE 1610 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:14,520 QUICKLY AND PEOPLE AREN'T 1611 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,640 WAITING FOR IT. 1612 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:22,040 I'M CURIOUS ABOUT TIMING OF THE 1613 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,400 REQUIREMENT AND WHETHER DATA MAY 1614 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,040 GET PUT UP BEFORE PUBLICATION OR 1615 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,880 MAY REQUIRE TO BE PUT UP BEFORE 1616 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,080 WHETHER THERE'S COORDINATION 1617 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,280 WITH PRE PRINT POSTING VERSUS 1618 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:36,080 REAL PUBLICATION AND THE BOTH 1619 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,760 SIDES OF THIS, ACCESS FOR 1620 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,080 INVESTIGATORS TO SPEAK UP THE 1621 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,160 REITERATION CYCLE OF DISCOVERY 1622 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,400 AND OPENING UP TO BEING SCOOPED 1623 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,320 IF YOU HAVE A PUBLISHED THAT. 1624 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,520 >> THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. 1625 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,400 THE POLICY IS AT THE TIME OF 1626 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,120 PUBLICATION AND I KNOW THERE ARE 1627 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,360 SOME JOURNALS AND I PUBLISHED 1628 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,640 SOME OF THOSE JOURNALS THAT WHEN 1629 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,640 YOU PUBLISH THE PAPER YOU HAVE 1630 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,920 TO -- EITHER YOU POST YOUR DATA 1631 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,720 WITH US, OR YOU POST THE DATA 1632 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,000 SOME PLACE ELSE AND MAKE IT VERY 1633 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,360 CLEAR WHERE THE DATA ARE 1634 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:05,840 AVAILABLE SO WHAT THE POLICY 1635 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,800 IS -- THE POLICY IS NOT ASKING 1636 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,880 YOU TO MAKE DATA AVAILABLE PRIOR 1637 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,640 TO PUBLICATION, OR WITH PRE 1638 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:13,880 PRINTS. 1639 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,040 I KNOW PEOPLE DO POSTDATA WITH 1640 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,320 PRO PRINTS BUT THAT'S VERY NICE 1641 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,880 BUT IT'S NOT A -- IT'S NOT A 1642 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:27,720 REQUIREMENT OR EVEN AN 1643 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:28,280 EXPECTATION. 1644 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,200 >> GREAT PRESENTATION. 1645 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,120 I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR TAKE 1646 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,040 ON THE FAILURE TO COMPLY. 1647 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,640 IT SEEMS NOW NIH IS STARTING TO 1648 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,840 MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF PUTTING 1649 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,920 BARS OF FUNDING FOR FUTURE 1650 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,240 DECISIONS AND OTHER SORT OF 1651 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,800 MEASURES TO MAKE AND ENSURE 1652 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:45,520 PEOPLE DO COULD I PLOOM WITH 1653 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:52,240 THICOMPLY WITH THIS POLICY.IT'S UNCLEAR HO W WELL 1654 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,920 COMMUNICATED IT IS ACROSS THE 1655 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,640 EXTRAMURAL COMMUNITY THIS POLICY 1656 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,120 HAS TEETH AND HOW ARE WE DOING 1657 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,240 GETTING THAT WORD OUT BECAUSE WE 1658 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,240 ARE RUNNING INTO SITUATIONS 1659 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,840 WHERE WE ARE GETTING BARS TO 1660 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,920 FUNDING NOW AND P.I.s CLAIM 1661 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,240 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND SO I'M 1662 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,480 JUST CURIOUS HOW WE'RE DOING ON 1663 01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:10,440 MESSAGING THAT AND BECAUSE IT'S 1664 01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:11,480 SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE NEED TO 1665 01:09:11,480 --> 01:09:13,680 TAKE SERIOUSLY. 1666 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,520 >> THANK YOU DAVID. 1667 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:16,640 AND WELL, MAYBE THAT'S PART OF 1668 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:22,280 WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. 1669 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,160 CERTAINLY AREAS PEOPLE ARE USED 1670 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,240 TO SO AS AN EXAMPLE, SO ONE FORM 1671 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,800 OF COMPLIANCE THAT MAY SEEM 1672 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:29,960 SIMPLE AND TRIVIAL IS THAT YOU 1673 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,920 HAVE TO TURN YOUR PROGRESS 1674 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,440 REPORT. 1675 01:09:32,440 --> 01:09:34,240 NOW, THAT ONE IS EASY BECAUSE, 1676 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,360 WE'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE A NON 1677 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,120 COMPETING RENEWAL WITHOUT A 1678 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,760 PROGRESS REPORT. 1679 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,280 NOW, TAKING ANOTHER LEVEL ON 1680 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:42,240 PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC 1681 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,840 ACCESS POLICY HAS BEEN AROUND 1682 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,800 FOR QUITE A LONG TIME AND WE'RE 1683 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,320 NOT GOING TO ISSUE A NON 1684 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,640 COMPETING RENEWAL UNLESS ALL THE 1685 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:51,720 PUBLICATIONS THAT ARE 1686 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,640 APPROPRIATE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS 1687 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,320 ARE NOW IN PUBLIC ACCESS. 1688 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,240 AND WE HAVE A BAR TO FUNDING FOR 1689 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,680 THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT 1690 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,280 PEOPLE HAVE COME TO BE USED TO 1691 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,240 AND ONE THAT IS RECENT IS 1692 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,880 REGISTRATION FOR CLINICAL TRIALS 1693 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,600 SO THE POLICY IS QUITE CLEAR 1694 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,480 THAT REGISTRATION HAS TO OCCUR 1695 01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:13,200 WITHIN 21 DAYS OF THE FIRST 1696 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,640 PATIENT BEING ENROLLED AND SO IF 1697 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,960 YOU ARE ENROLLING PATIENTS AND 1698 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,920 YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED THE 1699 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,800 TRIAL, WE CANNOT ISSUE A NON 1700 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,120 COMPETING RENEWAL AND WE JUST 1701 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,440 GOT HIT WITH A RATHER NASTY 1702 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:28,680 AUDIT FROM THE OIG SO, THIS ONE 1703 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,520 WE HAVE TO ENFORCE IT. 1704 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,240 WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH 1705 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,880 DISCRETION THERE SO THE THING IS 1706 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:39,520 IS THAT THEY'RE, WE DO NEED TO 1707 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,560 MESSAGE THIS AND THIS IS 1708 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:41,920 IMPORTANT AND THIS IS IMPORTANT 1709 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,440 JUST LIKE A NUMBER OF THE OTHER 1710 01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:47,400 ITEMS THAT WE'VE JUST TALKED 1711 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,960 ABOUT. 1712 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,520 >> THANK YOU FOR A GREAT 1713 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:50,920 PRESENTATION. 1714 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,640 IN THE EVENT THAT YOU HAVE 1715 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,840 MULTIPLE PUBLICATIONS, HOW DO 1716 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,920 YOU HANDLE THIS? 1717 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,960 >> SO, ONE WAY OF THINKING ABOUT 1718 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,680 IT IS WHAT DATA WERE NEEDED TO 1719 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,920 SUPPORT THAT PARTICULAR 1720 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,680 PUBLICATION AND YOU HAVE A 1721 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,680 PUBLICATION WITH TABLES AND 1722 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,720 GRAPHICS IN THERE. 1723 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,560 THE DATA THAT PRODUCES THAT, 1724 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,040 THOSE TABLES AND THOSE GRAPHICS 1725 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,920 THAT'S THE DATA THAT NEEDS TO BE 1726 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,520 SHARED AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT 1727 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,080 IN TIME. 1728 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,880 >> THE AIM IS PUBLISH THAT AND 1729 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,000 MAKE THAT AVAILABLE? 1730 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,240 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 1731 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,880 YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 1732 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,880 IT MAY VERY WELL BE A DIFFERENT 1733 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,160 SET OF DATA THAT INTERESTED PRODUCED PAPER 1734 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,280 1, 2 AND 3, THAT'S RIGHT. 1735 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,920 >> Dr. HARRIS. 1736 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,920 >> THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION 1737 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,320 AND IT HIT HOME FROM ME. 1738 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,920 I'M COMING FROM A BRAIN IMAGING. 1739 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,920 WE COLLECT DATA ON BRAIN 1740 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,120 ACTIVITY AND THERE'S BEEN SOME 1741 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,840 RECENT PUBLICATIONS THAT HAVE 1742 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,920 SHOWN YOU NEED LARGE STUDIES TO 1743 01:11:58,920 --> 01:11:59,720 GET REPLICABLE, YOU KNOW, GOOD 1744 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,720 RESULTS THAT ARE RELIABLE AND 1745 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,000 REPEATABLE. 1746 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:08,120 SO I'M WONDERING HOW CAN THE 1747 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,120 DATA SHARING HAPPEN IN SUCH A 1748 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,360 REPOSITORY WHERE THE DATASETS 1749 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,840 ARE QUITE LARGE AND DOES IT MAKE 1750 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,840 SENSE TO JUST UP LOAD, YOU KNOW, 1751 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,920 LIKE SUM ARY STATISTICS OF A 1752 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,600 LARGE DATASET OR THE RAW DATA 1753 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,920 WHICH IS WHERE THE DEMONS REALLY 1754 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,600 LIE AND YOU KNOW, KEEPING THAT 1755 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,520 GOING, MAKING SURE IT IS STABLE, 1756 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,200 ACCESSIBLE, IS NOT EASY SO I'M 1757 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,000 JUST CURIOUS AS TO LIKE, IN 1758 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,520 DATASETS THAT HAVE A LOT OF 1759 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,920 INFORMATION HOW IS IT GOING TO 1760 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:38,520 BE OPERATIONALIZED? 1761 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:43,960 >> YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GREAT 1762 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:49,920 QUESTION SO THERE ARE REPOSITORY 1763 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,600 FOR DATA. 1764 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,440 THE GENERALIST REPOSITORY LIKE 1765 01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:54,960 FIGURE SHARE CAN HANDLE LARGER 1766 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,120 DATASETS BUT PROBABLY NOT AS 1767 01:12:56,120 --> 01:13:07,920 LARGE AS YOURS AND SO AS AN 1768 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,080 EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY 1769 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,320 WHAT WOULD FIT YOUR PARTICULAR 1770 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:11,960 KIND OF DATA. 1771 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:17,960 BUT, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE SET 1772 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,920 UP CONTRACTS WITH THE BIG CLOUD 1773 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:21,440 PROVIDERS. 1774 01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:25,720 WITH AMAZON AND GOOGLE AND THE 1775 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:30,520 IDEA OF THAT IS THAT WE MAKE 1776 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,800 CLOUD STORAGE AVAILABLE FOR NIH 1777 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,000 FUNDED RESEARCHERS AT 1778 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,120 SUBSTANTIAL DISCOUNTS. 1779 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,840 NOT ONLY IS THE STORAGE 1780 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,040 AVAILABLE BUT WE ALSO MAKE 1781 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:45,440 AVAILABLE HIGH-POWER COMMUTIN COM 1782 01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:47,120 COMPUTING AND COMPUTING 1783 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:47,440 CONSULTANTS. 1784 01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:48,920 YOU MAY STORE AND MANAGE YOUR 1785 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:54,120 DATA AND THEY ARE YOUR DATA IN A 1786 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,680 ROBUST MANNER AND DO IT AT 1787 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,640 LOWER COSTS AND ALSO, GAIN SOME 1788 01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,640 ADVANTAGES FROM COMPUTING POWER 1789 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,400 AND COMPUTING CONSULTANTS. 1790 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:08,160 >> THANK YOU. 1791 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,800 >> OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL 1792 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,400 FROM Dr. LAUER? 1793 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:20,240 WE'LL HAVE SECOND -- OH, Dr. 1794 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:20,520 LANGEVIN. 1795 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:21,160 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: I HAVE A 1796 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:22,000 QUICK QUESTION. 1797 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:27,320 THERE ARE SOME JOURNALS THAT ARE 1798 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,560 REQUESTING DATA STORAGE PLANS OR 1799 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,120 AT THE TIME OF ARTICLE 1800 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,320 SUBMISSION AND SOME PEOPLE ARE 1801 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,000 GETTING CONFUSIONS ABOUT THAT AS 1802 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,760 TO WHETHER THERE'S A REQUIREMENT 1803 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,440 TO DEPOSIT THE DATA BEFORE THE 1804 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:43,920 PAPER IS EVEN REVIEWED OR 1805 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,200 ACCEPTED AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR 1806 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,720 WITH THAT AND IS THAT A SOURCE 1807 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,920 OF CONFUSION? 1808 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,800 >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER 1809 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,000 YOUR MEMBERS ARE COUNCIL ARE 1810 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,520 JOURNAL EDITOR AND IF YOU ARE I 1811 01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,680 A POLL JOYS FOR WHAT I'M ABOUT 1812 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,160 TO SAY AND I WAS A JOURNAL 1813 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,920 EDITOR MYSELF. 1814 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:04,680 JOURNAL WORK IN DIFFERENT WAYS 1815 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,840 SO IT CAN CREATE CONFUSION AND I 1816 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,520 RECENTLY PUBLISHED A COUPLE OF 1817 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,360 PAPERS IN' LIFE AND THEY TOLD ME 1818 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,480 AT THE TIME OF SUBMISSION, 1819 01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:16,120 WHAT'S YOUR DATA SHARING PLAN 1820 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,680 WAS AND I MADE IT ALSO VERY 1821 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,360 CLEAR THAT I WASN'T SHARING ANY 1822 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,120 DATA UNTIL I GOT AN ACCEPTANCE 1823 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,320 LETTER AND THEY WERE FINE WITH 1824 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,640 THAT AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY 1825 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,600 PROBLEM BUT WE HAD AN 1826 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,800 UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DATA, I 1827 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,960 DESCRIBED HOW THE DATA WERE 1828 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,400 GOING TO BE FORMATTED AND SO 1829 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:36,320 FOURTH AND THE DATA WERE GOING 1830 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:44,080 TO BE IT WAS LIKE, OK, DO IT. 1831 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:49,800 WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THAT NOW 1832 01:15:49,800 --> 01:16:08,360 THAT THE (INAUDIBLE). 1833 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,040 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: I LOST I 1834 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,120 FOR A SECOND. 1835 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,520 IF YOU DON'T READ TOO CAREFULLY 1836 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,760 YOU GET A SENSE THAT THEY WANTED 1837 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,920 DATA DEPOSITED AHEAD OF TIME AND 1838 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,840 "READ ONE OF THESE AND IT MADE 1839 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:28,520 ME WONDER. 1840 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,120 >> MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION -- 1841 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,280 >> DAN: THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, 1842 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:32,720 RIGHT? 1843 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,120 THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT. 1844 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,840 >> I AM WILLING TO MAKE A 1845 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,600 COMMITMENT THAT IF YOU PUBLISH 1846 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:52,320 MY PAPER, I WILL POST THE DATA. 1847 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,120 >> DATA SHARING IS A GREAT IDEA 1848 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,960 AND IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A 1849 01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:58,160 WHILE. 1850 01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,320 I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW WE 1851 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,360 BALANCE TIMELY SHARING OF THE 1852 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,800 DATA WITH THE PRODUCTIVITY OF 1853 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,520 THE INVESTIGATOR WHO ACTUALLY 1854 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,400 COLLECTED IT THESE DATASETS ARE 1855 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:10,600 RICH. 1856 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,840 YOU CAN PUBLISH YOUR PRIMARY 1857 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,240 HYPOTHESIS AND GET IT OUT BUT 1858 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,040 THEN IF YOU SHARE THE DATA, THEN 1859 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,120 ALL OF THE EXPLORATORY ANALYSIS 1860 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,600 THAW WANT TO DO THAT ACTUALLY 1861 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,800 SHOW UP AS PRODUCTIVITY ON YOUR 1862 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,240 GRANT, YOU CAN GET SCOOPED BY 1863 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,600 SOMEONE WITH A BIGGER 1864 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:28,520 COMPUTATIONALLY EFFECTIVE LAB 1865 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:35,600 AND CAN WE PUT IN SOME 1866 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,880 PROTECTION FOR THAT TO GIVE THE 1867 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,880 PERSON WHO INVESTED EFFORT IN 1868 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,400 COLLECTING THE DATA TO BENEFIT 1869 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:41,640 DIRECTLY FROM IT RATHER THAN 1870 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,920 GIVING IT ALL AWAY BEFORE 1871 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,080 THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT 1872 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,160 PUBLICATIONS ON THEIR CB. 1873 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:47,800 >> YEAH, SO THIS IS A GREAT 1874 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:48,360 QUESTION. 1875 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,520 THIS ISSUE CAME UP, I REMEMBER, 1876 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:56,800 WHEN THE GWAS POLICY WAS BEING 1877 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:04,800 WORKED OUT AND THE DATA HA TO BE 1878 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:05,960 SHARED BUT YOU COULDN'T PUBLISH 1879 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,760 OFF THE DATA FOR A PERIOD OF 1880 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:13,120 TIME AND YOU KNOW, OVER TIME, 1881 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,520 THAT HAS LARGELY GONE AWAY. 1882 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:19,840 I THINK IN PART, BECAUSE WHILE 1883 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,680 THAT CONCERN IS REAL AND IT 1884 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,200 DOESN'T HAPPEN AS MUCH ONE MIGHT 1885 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,120 THING BECAUSE WHO KNOWS THE DATA 1886 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:28,960 REALLY WELL? 1887 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,160 THE PERSON PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE 1888 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,240 DATA VERY WELL, THE PEOPLE WHO 1889 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:33,920 GENERATED IT. 1890 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,080 SO THEY ALREADY HAVE A MASSIVE 1891 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:37,840 HEAD START AND I DO THINK YOUR 1892 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,280 QUESTION BRINGS UP ANOTHER VERY 1893 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,200 IMPORTANT POINT, WHICH IS THAT, 1894 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,040 WE WITH LIKE TO GET TO AN 1895 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,360 ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH SOMEONE 1896 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,600 SHARES YOUR DATASET IT'S A, IF 1897 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:49,920 SOMEONE USES THE DATA THAT YOU 1898 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,680 ARE SHARING, THAT'S A FEATHER IN 1899 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,360 YOUR CAP AND THAT IS LIKE 1900 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:55,560 GETTING 10 CITATIONS TO YOUR 1901 01:18:55,560 --> 01:19:04,800 PAPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND 1902 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:12,520 SO. 1903 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,400 >> YOU ARE WILLING TO SHARE YOUR 1904 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,640 DATA AND YOU ARE BEGGING PEOPLE 1905 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:21,600 TO USE IT. 1906 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:22,960 >> THAT WOULD BE THE BEST OF ALL 1907 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:27,120 WORLD'S MAKING SURE THAT CREDIT 1908 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,480 IS ALLOCATED EVERY BODY. 1909 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:32,760 >> SO, Dr. JEAN LOUIS. 1910 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,600 >> I WAS GOING TO SAY AT THE 1911 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,240 VERY LEAST, THEY SHOULD GIVE 1912 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,160 CREDIT TO THE GRANT. 1913 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:46,120 >> YES, FOUR SURE. 1914 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,160 >> WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 1915 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,320 PRESENTATION HERE FOR THE LED BY 1916 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,120 Dr. CRAIG HOPP, THE DEPUTY 1917 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:55,680 DIRECTOR OF THE DIVISION OF 1918 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,800 EXTRAMURAL RESEARCH AT NCCIH ON 1919 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,760 NCCIH'S IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS 1920 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,760 AND THEN Dr. LAUER WILL STAY 1921 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,960 THROUGH THAT AND WE'LL HAVE THEN 1922 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,640 THE FINAL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS 1923 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,840 THAT COME UP THAT CAN BE FIELDED 1924 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,400 BY CRAIG OR Dr. LAUER. 1925 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,280 >> THANK YOU, HOPEFULLY IF I CAN 1926 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,720 SEE MY SCREEN AND I'M IN THE 1927 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:21,040 RIGHT PRESENTATION MODE, I'M 1928 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,000 GETTING A NOD SO I'LL GET 1929 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:22,240 STARTED. 1930 01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:26,240 JUST TO START, INPUT A HUMBLE, 1931 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,880 YOU KNOW, PRESENTER ON BEHALF OF 1932 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,320 WHAT IS A MUCH LARGER GROUP AT 1933 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,320 NCCIH, THE DATA MANAGEMENT 1934 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:34,720 SHARING GROUP THAT CONTAINS 1935 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,320 EIGHT OR NINE MEMBERS FROM 1936 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,160 ACROSS NCCIH WHO HAVE BEEN 1937 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,840 WORKING DILIGENTLY FOR ABOUT SIX 1938 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,920 MONTHS NOW FIGURING OUT HOW IS 1939 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,520 NCCIH GOING TO GO ABOUT 1940 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,760 IMPLEMENTING THIS POLICY AND YOU 1941 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,960 JUST HEARD A GREAT DEAL ABOUT. 1942 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,520 WE HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS JUST 1943 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:55,520 ABOUT THIS POLICY IN GENERAL AND 1944 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,120 ACKNOWLEDGING THIS IS A NEW 1945 01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:58,840 INVESTIGATORS AND THEY'RE 1946 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,840 PERHAPS UNCERTAIN AS WE HEARD 1947 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,320 AND TALKING ABOUT JUST NOW ABOUT 1948 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,840 QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT HAS TO BE 1949 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,720 APPLIED AND IT'S NEW FOR NIH AS 1950 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,040 WELL AND SO WE'RE ALL GOING TO 1951 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,920 BE IN THIS BOAT TOGETHER AND IN 1952 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:11,800 CLIMBING THAT LEARNING CURVE AS 1953 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,720 THIS GOES INTO EFFECT. 1954 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,680 BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE'S 1955 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:17,640 ADJUSTMENT PERIODS FOR BOTH 1956 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,400 APPLICANTS AND FOR NIH STAFF 1957 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:21,960 THAT WE WILL HAVE TO, THERE'S 1958 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,840 GOING TO BE BUMPS IN THE ROAD 1959 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,520 BUT I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT WE'LL 1960 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,240 GET PASSED ALL THAT IN THE 1961 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:28,560 REASON FOR MY CONFIDENCE IS 1962 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:35,880 WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. 1963 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,600 AND WHEN THE NEED ARISES AND WE 1964 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,720 ARE NOT SHY AS YOU HAVE HEARD 1965 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,360 EVERY EXAMPLES THAT MENTION 1966 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:46,720 THESE AS WELL AND NEW POLICIES 1967 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,320 HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE OVER TIME 1968 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,400 TO ADDRESS NEEDS AND THOSE HAVE 1969 01:21:51,400 --> 01:22:01,200 GONE THROUGH THE SAME PHASE OF 1970 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,720 WE WILL THAT HAVE SAME SCENARIO 1971 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,840 PLAY ITSELF OUT AGAIN. 1972 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,360 BUT NCCIH THERE ARE 1973 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:08,440 IMPLEMENTATION CONSIDERATIONS TO 1974 01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:08,720 CONSIDER. 1975 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,000 SO THE POLICY THAT Dr. LAUER 1976 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,360 PRESENTED I WOULD CALL THE 1977 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,520 VANILLA VERSION OF THE POLICY. 1978 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,920 IT'S THE BASE MODEL OF THIS DATA 1979 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,520 SHARING POLICY AND OTHER 1980 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:21,680 INSTITUTES AND CENTERS HAVE 1981 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,760 FLEXIBILITY ON HOW THEY CHOSE TO 1982 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,160 IMPLEMENT ASPECTS ABOUT POLICY 1983 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,760 AND SO THEY CAN LAYER ON 1984 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,120 ADDITIONAL RIGHTS OR ADD A SCOOP 1985 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,320 TO THIS CODE OR SPRINKLES OR 1986 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,080 OTHER TOPPINGS TO IT AND ONE OF 1987 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,360 THE WAYS THEY DO THAT AND THIS 1988 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,280 WAS MENTIONED BY Dr. LAUER IS 1989 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,320 SOME ICs HAVE REPOSITORIES IN 1990 01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,040 THE RAMP UP TO IMPLEMENTATION 1991 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,880 AND SOME HAVE DEVELOPED THEIR 1992 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,160 OWN INTERNAL REPOSITORIES TO 1993 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,920 WHICH ALL DATA THAT THEY ARE 1994 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:50,800 GENERATED THROUGH THEIR FUNDING 1995 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,480 GOES INTO THE REPOSITORY SO 1996 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:56,720 NCCIH, THIS WORKING GROUP THAT 1997 01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:00,520 WE HAVE HAS CONSIDERED ALL THE 1998 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:01,960 OPTIONS AND AT THIS TIME, WE 1999 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,840 HAVE CHOSEN THE RIGHTS OR 2000 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,000 RESTRICTIONS BEYOND WHAT IS 2001 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,680 STATED IN THE POLICY SO NCCI 2002 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,200 WILL SERVE THE VANILLA VERSION 2003 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,120 OF THIS ICE CREAM CONE. 2004 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,560 WE WOULD DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S 2005 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,000 THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SHARE AND 2006 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:25,280 THERE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS WE 2007 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:38,480 FINALIZED A WEBSITE AND AND I'M 2008 01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:40,360 TRYING TO FIND MY MOUSE. 2009 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,000 YOU WILL SEE THE THINGS ON OUR 2010 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:43,960 WEBSITE MIRROR THE THINGS ON THE 2011 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,480 NIH WEBSITE AND IT'S CALLED 2012 01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:47,960 SYNDICATING SO IT'S THE SAME 2013 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:48,160 THING. 2014 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,640 YOU CLICK ON THESE LINKS ABOUT 2015 01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,640 DATA MANAGEMENT AND SHARING THE 2016 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,320 DATA YOU WILL GET THE EXACT SAME 2017 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:55,920 WEB PAGE YOU SEE AT THE NIH 2018 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,680 WEBSITE AND THERE ARE A COUPLE 2019 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,040 PLACES WHERE WE HAVE ELABORATED 2020 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,120 WHICH I WILL SAY, ON WHAT IS 2021 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,920 AVAILABLE AT THE NIH WEBSITE IN 2022 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,760 THE TWO PLACES WE'VE DONE THAT 2023 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:08,720 SPECIFICALLY, THE SECTIONs 2024 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,800 CALLED PREPARING YOUR DMA PLAN 2025 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,560 AND PREFERRED REPOSITORY SO 2026 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:19,920 WE'RE REPAIRING THE DMS PLAN, WE 2027 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:25,040 TAKE THE IT HAS BEEN STATED IN 2028 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,120 NOTICES WHAT DO YOU NEED TO 2029 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:27,120 COVER IN YOUR PLAN. 2030 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,720 WE HAVE EXPANDED ON THAT THROUGH 2031 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:35,440 A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND YOU 2032 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:36,960 SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THESE 2033 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,360 AND EVEN IF THE QUESTION OR THE 2034 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:40,920 ANSWER DOESN'T APPLY, YOU SHOULD 2035 01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,920 BE ABLE TO STATE THAT IN SOME 2036 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,440 WAY SHAPE OF FORM IN YOUR DATA 2037 01:24:44,440 --> 01:24:51,320 MANAGEMENT AND SHARING PLAN YOU 2038 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:52,040 SUBMIT. 2039 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,760 WE HAVE A LIST OF PREFERRED 2040 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,520 REPOSITORY WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT 2041 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:16,880 THAT MEANS AND AND AND THE SIZE 2042 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,080 OF DATA YOU HAVE WHAT WOULD BE 2043 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,920 THE APPROPRIATE WEBSITE OR 2044 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,720 REPOSITORY TO PUT THAT DATA AND 2045 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:26,720 THIS GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO TWO 2046 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,720 TERABYTES OF DATA WE MENTIONED 2047 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,920 PUBMED CENTRAL IS APPROPRIATE 2048 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,760 WITH SMALL DATASETS. 2049 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,040 THE ONE EXCEPTION TO THAT I WILL 2050 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,520 POINT OUT IS THE NATURAL 2051 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,120 PRODUCTS AND MAGNETIC RESIDENTS 2052 01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,520 DATABASE AND THIS IS ONE FUNDED 2053 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,320 BY NCCIH SO ALL NMR DATA 2054 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:46,960 GENERATED THROUGH NCCIH FUNDING 2055 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,080 WE EXPECT TO BE DEPOSITED INTO 2056 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,680 THAT REPOSITORY AND OTHERWISE, 2057 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,440 THIS IS JUST OUR SUGGESTED LIST 2058 01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:56,200 IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT BUT THERE 2059 01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:02,640 IS GOOD REASONS WHY TO USE THESE 2060 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:03,560 FOR SOME CLEAR RAINS THAT MAKE 2061 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,760 IT EASY FOR BOTH SIDES TO 2062 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,560 DEPOSIT AND FIND AND THERE ARE 2063 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,640 TOOLS IN RESOURCES OUTSIDE OF 2064 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,400 NIH THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT 2065 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:15,960 HERE. 2066 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,800 ONE IS THIS DMP TOOL THAT HAS A 2067 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:20,680 VARIETY OF TEMPLATES BASED ON 2068 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,120 WHAT TYPE OF DATA MANAGEMENT 2069 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,640 SHARING POLICY YOU ARE TRYING TO 2070 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,120 ABIDE BY. 2071 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,920 ONE OF THE DROP DOWNS AND THE 2072 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,040 NIH VERSION YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT 2073 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,560 AND Dr. LAUER MENTIONED ALL 2074 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,000 THE LIBRARY RESOURCES OUT THERE 2075 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,040 WHERE THERE'S A DATA CURATION 2076 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:44,800 NETWORK DEVELOPED AND THERE ARE 2077 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,040 PEOPLE CAN GO THERE AS WELL TO 2078 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,600 LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW TO CRAFT A 2079 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,480 DATA MANAGEMENT SHARING PLAN AND 2080 01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:52,920 SO AS Dr. LAUER DID MENTION 2081 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:57,200 AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, 2082 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,320 GET IT TATTOOED ON YOUR FOREHEAD 2083 01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:00,720 SO YOU DON'T FORGET IT. 2084 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,240 THERE'S REPEATED UPDATES AND 2085 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:07,640 THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS 2086 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,440 THAT GUIDANCE AND RECORDINGS OF 2087 01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:16,760 PRIOR WEBINARS SO THIS IS GOING 2088 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:29,280 TO BE THERE'S A SUPPORT TOOL 2089 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,400 WITH A TEMPLATESK DOCUMENT SO I 2090 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,160 ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO GO THERE AND 2091 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:36,280 AVAIL YOURSELF OF ALL THE 2092 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:41,520 RESOURCE THERE'S IN THAT 2093 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:41,720 WEBSITE. 2094 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,280 I WILL GO THROUGH IT JUST 2095 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,800 SLIGHTLY MORE DETAIL PERHAPS 2096 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:47,720 ABOUT HOW NCCIH SEES THIS 2097 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:53,440 EVALUATION OF THESE PLANS TAKING 2098 01:27:53,440 --> 01:28:01,800 PLACE AND THE VISIT OUT OF THE 2099 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,920 RESOURCES OUT THERE AVAILABLE TO 2100 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,800 YOU AND AGAIN, THE IMPORTANTLY 2101 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:11,680 Dr. LAWYER MENTIONELAUER MENTIONED THIS BU T IT'S 2102 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:12,480 COMMON TO HAVE SPECIFIC 2103 01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:13,880 INSTRUCTIONS IN FUNDING 2104 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,520 OPPORTUNITIES ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT 2105 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:23,520 ADDRESS EXACTLY FOR THAT FOA HOW 2106 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:24,840 DO DOES NIH WANT DATA SHARING 2107 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:30,800 AND MANAGEMENT TO BE ADDRESSED. 2108 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,560 IF SOME CASES WHEN WE MAKE IT 2109 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,880 EASY TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO CRAFT 2110 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:41,200 THAT DATABASE YOU ARE WELCOME TO 2111 01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,520 CONTACT PROGRAM STAFF AT NCCIH 2112 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,720 AND WE WILL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO 2113 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:47,960 CLARIFY ANY CONCLUSION THAT 2114 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,280 MIGHT BE REMAINING WHEN YOU 2115 01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,960 REVIEW THE OTHER RESOURCES 2116 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,280 AVAILABLE TO YOU. 2117 01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,600 SO, IN THE HOPEFUL SCENARIO THAT 2118 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,160 YOU SUBMIT THE APPLICATIONS AND 2119 01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,240 IT GETS A FANTASTIC SCORE SUCH 2120 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,960 THAT AN AWARD IS ON THE HORIZON 2121 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:04,280 THAT'S WHEN EVALUATION OF THESE 2122 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,440 PLANS WILL BEGIN IN EARNEST AND 2123 01:29:06,440 --> 01:29:08,760 I WANT TO SET PEOPLE'S MINDS 2124 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,280 AT'S AND LIKE OTHER TYPES OF 2125 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:11,920 INFORMATION, THIS IS NOT ONE 2126 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,120 SHOT AT THIS AND IF YOU DON'T 2127 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,120 GET IT RIGHT, SORRY, YOU ARE NOT 2128 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:16,320 GETTING AN AWARD AND THIS IS 2129 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,560 VERY MUCH AN INTRA PROCESS WHEN 2130 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,080 WE EVALUATE THESE PLANS AND IF 2131 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:28,800 WE FEEL THAT IT DOESN'T MEET THE 2132 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,560 BAR, WE WILL AUGMENT AND REVISE 2133 01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,120 THE PLAN WHERE IT DOES SATISFY 2134 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:34,520 US AND AN AWARD CAN BE MADE. 2135 01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,040 JUST TO BE CLEAR, HAVING A 2136 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,000 SATISFACTORY PLAN IS A REQUISITE 2137 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:44,520 NOW FOR FUNDING ANY APPLICATION. 2138 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,880 NIH BROADLY AND NCCIH 2139 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,440 SPECIFICALLY WILL BE ENGAGING IN 2140 01:29:48,440 --> 01:29:50,240 THE WIDE RANGE OF TRAINING 2141 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,480 EXERCISES TO MAKE SURE THAT AT 2142 01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:54,520 LEAST INTERNALLY, WE'RE 2143 01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,440 IMPLEMENTING THIS POLICY AND 2144 01:29:56,440 --> 01:29:58,080 EVALUATING THE PLANS AS 2145 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:03,840 CONSISTENTLY AS POSSIBLE ACROSS 2146 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,120 NCCIH SO WE'RE ALL ROWING IN THE 2147 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:08,760 SAME DIRECTION. 2148 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,120 WE HAVE A TRANS NIH GROUP TRYING 2149 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,800 TO DEVELOP WAYS TO ADDRESS 2150 01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,160 UNIQUE SCENARIOS. 2151 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,680 SO, IF THERE'S A DISAGREEMENT OR 2152 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,240 LET'S SAY WHETHER OR NOT IT'S 2153 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:21,560 APPROPRIATE TO SHARE CERTAIN 2154 01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,440 TYPES OF DATA OR WHETHER THERE'S 2155 01:30:24,440 --> 01:30:26,280 CONFUSION ABOUT WHICH REPOSITORY 2156 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,880 IS BEST AND THERE WILL BE 2157 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,880 RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO HELP 2158 01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,040 ADJUDICATE SOME OF THOSE STICKY 2159 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:34,480 SITUATIONS. 2160 01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:36,240 LASTLY JUST TO RESTATE WHAT 2161 01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:40,840 Dr. LAUER SAID, COMPLIANCE 2162 01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:59,840 WITH THIS PLAN AND AND IF WE 2163 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,640 FIND THAT'S NOT THE CASE, 2164 01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,720 OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE 2165 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,040 CONSEQUENCES RANGING FROM MINOR 2166 01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:07,200 THINGS AND RESTRICTIONS ON 2167 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,560 AWARDS UNTIL YOU GET THINGS IN 2168 01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:11,480 COMPLIANCE TO PARTICULARLY 2169 01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:15,720 EGREGIOUS SCENARIOS, THIS COULD 2170 01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:16,400 IMPACT ANY FUTURE AWARDS THAT 2171 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:38,080 YOU OR YOUR INSTITUTES KEEP 2172 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,840 GOING BACK TO THESE PLACES AGAIN 2173 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,000 AND AGAIN AND TO FIND OUT WHAT 2174 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:42,640 IS NEW. 2175 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,480 I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS 2176 01:31:45,480 --> 01:31:48,280 A PROCESS WE'RE STRUGGLING, 2177 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:52,880 WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW AND IT 2178 01:31:52,880 --> 01:32:01,960 WILL BE SECOND R SECOND AND HE USED TO 2179 01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,520 LIKE NCCIH PROPOSING TO DO 2180 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,280 SOMETHING NEW, IS THE JUICE 2181 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:06,680 WORTH THE SQUEEZE AND IN THIS 2182 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:07,680 CASE THE ANSWER IS YES. 2183 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:12,720 THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT REASONS 2184 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:13,640 WHY SHARING DATA IS THE RIGHT 2185 01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,040 THING TO DO AND I THINK FUTURE 2186 01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:17,720 GENERATIONS OF SCIENTISTS WILL 2187 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:18,720 REALLY ALLOWED US FOR TAKING 2188 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:36,040 THIS ACTION AT THIS TIME AND 2189 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:40,720 QUESTIONS FOR Dr. H O.P.P. OR 2190 01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:53,680 Dr. LAUER. 2191 01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,360 >> THAT WAS GREAT. 2192 01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:57,720 THANK YOU FOR THE SUMMARY. 2193 01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,400 I WANTED TO ASK, DO I UNDERSTAND 2194 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:02,200 CORRECTLY -- OOPS. 2195 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:02,840 I DO UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT 2196 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:12,560 THE DATA MANAGEMENT PLAN OR THE 2197 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,320 DATA OPEN APP ZESHAN WE'RE 2198 01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:15,720 PUTTING TOGETHER IS GOING TO BE 2199 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,920 REVIEWED SOMEWHAT LIKE HANDLING 2200 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:21,040 ANIMALS SUBJECTS OR OTHER 2201 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,360 ASPECTS OF THE GRANT THAT AREN'T 2202 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:27,120 SCIENTIFIC BUT THAT GET 2203 01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:28,280 EVALUATED AND SCORED BY 2204 01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,760 REVIEWERS AND EVENTUALLY, HAVE 2205 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,160 TO BE IN COMPLIANCE BY THE TIME 2206 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:33,880 IT GETS FUNDED. 2207 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,560 >> SO IN PART, YES, SO REVIEWERS 2208 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,920 WILL NOT BE EVALUATING THE PLAN 2209 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,920 ITSELF AND THEY WILL BE LOOKING 2210 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,800 AT THE BUDGET SO ARE ALLOWED, AS 2211 01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,920 WE MENTIONED, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO 2212 01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,280 MENTION, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO 2213 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,680 REQUEST FUNDS BASICALLY TO HELP 2214 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,320 DEVELOP THE DATABASE SHARING 2215 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,040 PLAN SO, THE REVIEWERS WILL BE 2216 01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,120 ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON WHETHER 2217 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,880 THE BUDGET IS APPROPRIATE FOR 2218 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,320 THE ACTIVITIES BUT THEY'RE NOT 2219 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:04,320 REVIEWING THE PLAN AND THEY 2220 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,200 WON'T SEEN THE PLAN THAT YOU ARE 2221 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:08,440 SUBMITTING AND IT WILL ONLY BE 2222 01:34:08,440 --> 01:34:10,520 ADVISABLE FOR MOST SCENARIOS TO 2223 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,720 NIH STAFF AND IN THIS CASE, IT 2224 01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,480 WILL BE ANNAL GUS TO OTHER 2225 01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:16,000 ASPECTS THAT ARE JUST IN TIME 2226 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,920 BASIS SO, THINGS LIKE OTHER 2227 01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:20,360 SUPPORTS, AND OTHER TYPES OF 2228 01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:21,800 ACTIVITIES AND WHERE WORE ASKING 2229 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,840 YOU FOR UPDATES, YOU KNOW, AS 2230 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:25,600 WE'RE GETTING READY TO MAKE 2231 01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,760 CONTINUE AN AWARD, THAT'S WHEN 2232 01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:28,920 EVALUATION WILL TAKE PLACE IN 2233 01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,120 NIH STAFF SO WE WILL NOT BE VEIL 2234 01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:32,200 WAITING ALL PLANS AND 2235 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,360 APPLICATIONS AND REVIEWERS WILL 2236 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,560 NOT EVALUATE THIS PLAN BUT IF AN 2237 01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,040 AWARD SEEMS POSSIBLE, AT LEAST, 2238 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,720 WE WILL BE VALUE WAITING IT AT 2239 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,000 THAT TIME AND WE'LL BE 2240 01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,720 COMMUNICATING WITH YOU IF 2241 01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,280 THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO BE 2242 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,800 IMPROVED UPON AND THIS IS VERY 2243 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,720 MUCH ANNAL GUS TO INTEGRITY AND 2244 01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:54,640 IT'S NOT EXPRESSED DURING REVIEW 2245 01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,480 BUT SOMETHING THAT WE AT NCCIH 2246 01:34:56,480 --> 01:35:00,560 HANDLE VERY MUCH AND IT WILL BE 2247 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:05,000 A VERY FASHION FOR NATURAL 2248 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:05,280 PRODUCTS. 2249 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:12,760 >> I GET IT NOW. 2250 01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,520 >> JUST TO FOLLOW-UP ON AND 2251 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,920 CLARIFY AND EMPHASIZE SO, EVEN 2252 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,640 THOUGH YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT YOUR 2253 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,400 DATA MANAGEMENT SHARING PLAN AS 2254 01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,840 PART OF THE APPLICATION, IT'S AN 2255 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,200 A SCORED OR CRITERIA THAT 2256 01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:29,960 EFFECTS THE REVIEW BY REVIEWERS. 2257 01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:41,120 THEY DO NOT SEE THE PLAN YOU 2258 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,000 HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE GRANT FROM 2259 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:47,280 THE GET-GO AND IT TIME 2260 01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:54,040 INFORMATION AND JUST IN TYPICAL 2261 01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:54,520 ASPECT. 2262 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,120 Dr. HARRIS. 2263 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:57,400 >> I JUST HAD AN IDEA. 2264 01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:03,520 I WAS WONDERING, HOW IS 2265 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,920 OVERSIGHT OF DATA FALSE DATA, 2266 01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,440 HANDLED LIKE IF SOMEONE UP LOADS 2267 01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:11,120 DATA AND THEY GO DOWN A RABBIT 2268 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,440 TRAIL TO A COUPLE MONTHS TO A 2269 01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:14,680 YEAR AND THEY FIND OUT THE DATA 2270 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:20,800 IT WAS UPLOADED WAS NOT RIGHT. 2271 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,120 HOW WILL THAT BE MANAGED? 2272 01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,760 >> THAT'S A PERFECT QUESTION FOR 2273 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:34,640 Dr. LAUER. 2274 01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:39,760 FALSE IN FABRICATED OR 2275 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:40,360 DELIBERATELY FALSIFIED. 2276 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:44,080 BY THE WAY, THAT'S WHY ONE OF 2277 01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:45,520 THE SAL YOU TORI EFFECTS OF DATA 2278 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,360 SHARING IS IT'S BECAUSE OF DATA 2279 01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,600 SHARING THAT SOME SCANDALS HAVE 2280 01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,800 BEEN UNEARTHED MUCH FASTER THAN 2281 01:36:52,800 --> 01:37:07,280 IN YEARS PAST. 2282 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,600 WE FOLLOW OUR STANDARD PROCESSES 2283 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:13,560 FOR INVESTIGATING SCIENTIFIC 2284 01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:13,880 MISCONDUCT. 2285 01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,000 WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROUTE 2286 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,080 BEFORE WHERE FALSIFIED DATA WERE 2287 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:19,280 DISCOVERED BECAUSE OF THE DATA 2288 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,520 SHARING POLICY AND PERHAPS THE 2289 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:25,600 CASE THAT IS BEST KNOWN WAS 2290 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:26,760 DANIELLE POTTYCASE AT DUKE 2291 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,520 UNIVERSITY AND THE WAY THAT ALL 2292 01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:29,640 STARTED WAS THAT THEY WERE 2293 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,520 REQUIRED TO SHARE DATA, THERE 2294 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:33,480 WERE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ABOUT 2295 01:37:33,480 --> 01:37:35,120 THE CELL LINES THEY WERE USING 2296 01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:36,080 SO THEY WERE REQUIRED TO SHARE 2297 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:41,000 THE DATA AND SO THERE WERE 2298 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,560 PEOPLE AT MD ANDERSON TRYING TO 2299 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:44,320 REPLICATE AND DISCOVER ALL KINDS 2300 01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:45,480 OF PROBLEMS AND THAT'S WHAT 2301 01:37:45,480 --> 01:37:48,120 STARTED THE WHOLE THING. 2302 01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,320 I THINK THE SECOND THING YOU ARE 2303 01:37:49,320 --> 01:38:11,360 TALKING ABOUT IS MORE COMMON 2304 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:16,520 THEY MY MIGHT WRITE ADDENDUM OF 2305 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:17,720 WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT 2306 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:18,920 THEY'RE FINDING. 2307 01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:20,200 >> I GUESS I WONDER IF THEY 2308 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,320 WOULD GO BACK TO THAT DATA AND 2309 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,240 CHANGE IT IN THE DATABASE SO 2310 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,160 IT'S CORRECT FOR FUTURE USERS OR 2311 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:27,440 NOT? 2312 01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:28,840 >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 2313 01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:30,280 THAT MAY DEPEND UPON THE 2314 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,440 POLICIES OF THE REPOSITORY AND 2315 01:38:32,440 --> 01:38:39,920 OR THE POLICIES OF THE JOURNAL 2316 01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:41,400 AND WHAT SOME DO IS A STORE A 2317 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,320 VERSION SO THIS IS THE VERSION 2318 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:44,320 THAT WAS DEPOSITED ON JANUARY 2319 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:45,720 THE SECOND AND THIS WAS THE 2320 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,880 VERSION THAT WAS DEPOSITED ON 2321 01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,360 JUNE THE FIRST. 2322 01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,280 AND SO THEN YOU KNOW, SOMEONE 2323 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,600 WHO IS ACCESSING THE DATA WILL 2324 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,880 SAY OK, I USED THIS PARTICULAR 2325 01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,760 SNAPSHOT IN TIME AND THERE WOULD 2326 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,760 BE READ-ME DOCUMENT THAT'S GO 2327 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:02,920 ALONG WITH IT THAT MIGHT SAY 2328 01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:06,000 SOMETHING LIKE, WE'VE DISCOVERED 2329 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:07,960 POTENTIAL OR WE HAVE CLEANED UP 2330 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:13,920 DATA FROM THE JANUARY. 2331 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,920 >> THANK YOU. 2332 01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:16,160 >> 2333 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:17,160 >> Dr. WEBBER. 2334 01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,040 >> HI, I'M WONDERING IF YOU 2335 01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:23,720 COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 2336 01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:24,920 THE NEW DATA MANAGEMENT AND 2337 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,880 SHARING PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE 2338 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,680 INCLUDED IN ALL APPLICATIONS 2339 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,760 VERSUS THE DATA SAFETY AND 2340 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,000 MONITORING PLANS THAT HAVE VERY 2341 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:36,920 SIMILAR ACRONYMS BUT AREN'T 2342 01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,640 NECESSARILY REQUIRED FOR ALL 2343 01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,480 APPLICATIONS AND IS THAT CORRECT 2344 01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:44,360 ONLY CLINICAL TRIALS DATA NEEDS 2345 01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:45,560 A DSMP? 2346 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,560 CAN YOU CLARIFY THOSE TWO 2347 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:48,920 DIFFERENT PARTS? 2348 01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,520 >> YEAH, ISN'T THAT TOO BAD THEY 2349 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,880 HAVE THE SAME ACRONYM, OK, THE 2350 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,000 DATA SHARING AND MANAGEMENT, 2351 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:00,840 DATA MANAGEMENT SHARING PLAN IS 2352 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,200 REQUIRED FOR ANY APPLICATIONS IN 2353 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,320 WHICH DATA WILL BE GENERATED SO, 2354 01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:06,400 THERE'S CERTAIN KINDS OF 2355 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:07,280 APPLICATIONS WHERE DATA WILL NOT 2356 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,840 BE GENERATED LIKE A TRAINING 2357 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:11,560 PROGRAM. 2358 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,320 OR A CONSTRUCTION GRANTOR 2359 01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:17,680 RESOURCE GRANT LIKE AN R24. 2360 01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,680 BUT, MOST NIH GRANTS AND I'M 2361 01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:21,440 GOING TO GUESS WELL OVER 90% 2362 01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:22,800 INVOLVED THE GENERATION OF SOME 2363 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:28,640 KIND OF DATA AND WILL REQUIRE A 2364 01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,080 DATA MANAGEMENT AND SHARING 2365 01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:31,280 PLAN. 2366 01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,600 NOW FOR DATA MONITORING AND 2367 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:39,400 SAFETY, THAT APPLIES TO TRIALS 2368 01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:40,840 AND THERE, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS. 2369 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:42,920 WHAT KIND OF PLAN GETS SUBMITTED 2370 01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:44,360 DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE 2371 01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,880 TRIAL IF IT'S SOMETHING SIMPLE, 2372 01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,480 WE'LL REPORT BACK ON OUR 2373 01:40:49,480 --> 01:40:51,120 PROGRESS REPORT ONCE A YEAR IF 2374 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:52,840 IT'S ACCOMPLISHED MULTI-CENTER 2375 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,800 STUDY WE'LL SET UP A DSMB AND DO 2376 01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,960 ALL THE USUAL THINGS THAT 2377 01:40:58,960 --> 01:40:59,240 DSMBs DO. 2378 01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:05,040 >> THANK YOU. 2379 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,960 WILL THESE ACRONYMS REMAIN THE 2380 01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:08,200 SAME? 2381 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,520 [LAUGHTER] 2382 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,320 YOU KNOW, YEAH, THERE SHOULD BE 2383 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,000 A WHOLE STUDY LIKE A WHOLE 2384 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:19,880 SCIENCE OF ACRONYM KNOWLEDGE. 2385 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,760 I'M A CARDIOLOGIST SO WHEN I 2386 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,440 HEAR M.S., GOES THROUGH MY HEAD 2387 01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:26,920 IS HIGH TRAL STENOSIS. 2388 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,840 MOST PEOPLE THINK OF A DIFFERENT 2389 01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,400 DISEASE AND SO IT IS WHAT IT IS. 2390 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,880 >> IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE TWO 2391 01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:41,920 PROCESSES THAT ARE SO -- 2392 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,600 >> WELL THEY'RE SLIGHTLY 2393 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:44,800 DIFFERENT ALTHOUGH, IF YOU ARE 2394 01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,080 DYSLEXIC IT DOESN'T HELP. 2395 01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,760 IF DATA IS SHARING, DATA SAFETY 2396 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,480 IN MONITORING SO IT'S DSM WHERE 2397 01:41:52,480 --> 01:41:53,880 DATA MANAGEMENT AND SHARING 2398 01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:54,960 WHICH IS DMS. 2399 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,840 >> IT'S REVERSED, OH, OK, THAT 2400 01:41:57,840 --> 01:41:58,040 HELPS. 2401 01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:04,760 >> YEAH, MAYBE IT HELPS. 2402 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,520 >> WE HAVE JUST A COUPLE MINUTES 2403 01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,200 LEFT AND ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS 2404 01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:15,520 BY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF? 2405 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:19,360 >> ANY ONE IS MVP AND IT'S A 2406 01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:24,440 MINIMAL LEVLY VIABLE PRODUCT. 2407 01:42:24,440 --> 01:42:25,720 >> I WAS GOING TO GO WITH MOST 2408 01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:27,520 VALUABLE PLAYER. 2409 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:27,920 [LAUGHTER] 2410 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:28,720 >> THAT TOO. 2411 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,680 MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. 2412 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,200 THERE YOU GO. 2413 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:32,880 THERE YOU HAVE IT. 2414 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:34,320 >> ALL RIGHT. 2415 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:35,360 WELL, THANK YOU Dr. LAWYER SO 2416 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:36,760 MUCH AND THIS IS JUST FABULOUS 2417 01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,320 AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU 2418 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:43,120 PROVIDING THE REVIEW AND TO 2419 01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:43,720 Dr. HOPP AS WELL. 2420 01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:44,720 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND ENJOY 2421 01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:46,360 THE REST OF YOUR MEETING. 2422 01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:46,720 >> THANK YOU. 2423 01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:52,600 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 2424 01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:54,240 Dr. LANGEVIN BACK TO YOU. 2425 01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:55,520 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: SO I'M 2426 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,960 VERY EXCITED TO BE SHARING WITH 2427 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,760 YOU SOME NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND 2428 01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,560 WHOLE PERSON HEALTH STORY WHICH 2429 01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:09,200 SO LET'S SHARE MY SCREEN. 2430 01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,480 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE, 2431 01:43:11,480 --> 01:43:19,680 OOPS, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE MY 2432 01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:29,880 VIDEO. 2433 01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:41,560 CAN PEOPLE SEE THIS. 2434 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,440 >> THE NARRATIVE YOU'VE BEEN 2435 01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:45,120 PART OF AND WE KEPT YOU UPDATED 2436 01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,680 ON THIS AND WE SOUGHT YOUR 2437 01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:48,800 ADVICE AND COUNCIL EVERY STEP OF 2438 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:54,240 THE WAY AND IN OUR QUEST TO SORT 2439 01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:55,840 OF DEVELOP A PROGRAM IN WHOLE 2440 01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:57,600 PERSON HEALTH, THERE WERE A LOT 2441 01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,800 OF STEPS THAT WE'VE TAKEN SO, 2442 01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:04,760 ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS IS THAT 2443 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:09,520 WE REALLY KIND OF WANTED TO PUT 2444 01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:10,400 TOGETHER GROSS OF STAKEHOLDERS 2445 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:11,520 AND PARTNERS AND ONE OF THESE 2446 01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,920 GROUPS WERE INTERNAL TO NIH SO 2447 01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,880 THESE ARE ALL THE NIH INSTITUTE 2448 01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:18,800 CENTERS AND OFFICES WE'VE 2449 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:20,760 ASSEMBLED IN OUR WORKING GROUP 2450 01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:22,080 THROUGH WHOLE PERSON HEALTH 2451 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:23,400 RESEARCH WITHIN NIH AND YOU CAN 2452 01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,800 SEE ALL THE VARIOUS INSTITUTES 2453 01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,800 AND CENTERS AND WE DELIBERATE 2454 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,480 RECHOSE PARTNERS THAT ALREADY 2455 01:44:30,480 --> 01:44:31,680 HAD A MISSION THAT WAS NOT 2456 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,120 EITHER ORGAN OR 2457 01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:34,680 DISEASED-SPECIFIC. 2458 01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:38,440 YOU CAN SEE HERE AHA, CHILD 2459 01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:41,000 HEALTH, NURSING, MINORITY 2460 01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,760 HEALTH, ENVIRONMENT, 2461 01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:45,320 ENGINEERING, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT 2462 01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,120 THESE AND OF COURSE THE OFFICES 2463 01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:49,440 OF DISEASE PREVENTION AND 2464 01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:53,920 BEHAVIOR, WOMEN'S HEALTH, AND 2465 01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,000 NUTRITION. 2466 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:56,520 SO, THESE WERE OUR INTERNAL 2467 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,920 PARTNERS AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO A 2468 01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:04,520 SET OF INSTITUTIONS AND FROM THE 2469 01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:10,400 OUTSIDE OF NIH WHO ALSO HAVE A 2470 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:14,440 MISSION THAT IS SORT OF RELATED 2471 01:45:14,440 --> 01:45:25,720 TO WHOLE PERSON HEALTH FOR 2472 01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,680 MILITARY PERFORMANCE AND 2473 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:29,520 LIFESTYLE MEDICINE CAN YOU SEE 2474 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:33,600 THERE AND THESE ARE OUR GROUP OF 2475 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,560 EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE 2476 01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,520 BEEN ADVISING ON US ON 2477 01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:43,200 DEVELOPING THIS PLANNED AGENDA 2478 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:48,920 AND NOW THE NEXT STEP WAS TO SAY 2479 01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:50,560 OK, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO 2480 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:51,880 RESEARCH ON WHOLE PERSON HEALTH. 2481 01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:53,400 IT'S A LOT EASIER AND THE EFFECT 2482 01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:58,240 OF A SINGLE DRUG ON A SINGLE 2483 01:45:58,240 --> 01:45:59,920 RECEPTOR FOR MOLECULE TO STUDY 2484 01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:05,680 THE EFFECT OF LIFESTYLE AND YOGA 2485 01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,640 OR THESE MULTI COMPONENT 2486 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:09,320 INTERVENTIONS WE'VE BEEN TALKING 2487 01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:12,600 ABOUT SO HOW DO YOU DO THAT? 2488 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:13,920 SO WE WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR 2489 01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,520 PARTNERS AND ESPECIALLY ALL THE 2490 01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,560 NIH INSTITUTES AND CENTERS AND 2491 01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,560 PARTICIPATED IN OUR WORKING 2492 01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:22,920 PLANNING GROUP FOR THIS 2493 01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:24,120 WONDERFUL WORKSHOP THAT WE'VE 2494 01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,040 HAD LAST YEAR AND ON WHOLE 2495 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:31,000 PERSON RESEARCH AND THIS 2496 01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,880 WORKSHOP ADDRESSED HOW TO STUDY 2497 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:34,920 INTERCONNECTED SYSTEMS AND THE 2498 01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,320 EFFECT OF EITHER SINGLE OR MULTI 2499 01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:39,720 COMPONENT INTERVENTION ON THE 2500 01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:41,160 SYSTEM AND IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL 2501 01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:42,720 WORKSHOP AND ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE 2502 01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,320 NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK 2503 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:47,720 AND WE SAW A VIDEO CAST ON OUR 2504 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,920 WEBSITE AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS 2505 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:51,200 THAT KEPT COMING UP, A LOT, IN 2506 01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,200 THE DISCUSSIONS, DURING THE 2507 01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:55,080 WORKSHOP AND ALSO HERE AT 2508 01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:56,840 COUNCIL IS HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY 2509 01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,200 MEASURE WHATEVER THE OUTCOMES, 2510 01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:02,480 WHAT KIND OF OUTCOMES DO YOU 2511 01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:04,320 NEED TO CAPTURE WHOLE PERSON 2512 01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:04,800 HEALTH, RIGHT. 2513 01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,880 AND SO FOR THAT REASON, WE WENT 2514 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,920 THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE WE, WELL 2515 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,240 FIRST OF ALL, WE THOUGHT, WELL 2516 01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,560 NEED A FRAMEWORK, WE THROUGH 2517 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,480 STUFF AT THE WALL THINKING IF 2518 01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:20,720 YOU HAD TO DEFINE A SET OF 2519 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:21,920 FACTORS THAT WOULD DEFINE WHOLE 2520 01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:23,440 PERSON HEALTH, FIRST OF ALL, 2521 01:47:23,440 --> 01:47:25,320 WHAT KIND OF FACTORS WOULD THEY 2522 01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:25,520 BE? 2523 01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,920 THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A 2524 01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,080 BIOLOGICAL FACTOR AND SOME 2525 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:31,360 ENVIRONMENTAL BEHAVIORAL, SOCIAL 2526 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:32,800 AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND THEY WOULD 2527 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,200 COVER ALL THE VARIOUS DOMAINS 2528 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,120 AND NUTRITIONAL, PHYSICAL, 2529 01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:37,480 PSYCHOLOGICAL. 2530 01:47:37,480 --> 01:47:38,640 AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE 2531 01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,800 DIFFERENT KINDS OF FACTORS AND 2532 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,360 SO THESE ARE JUST, WE JUST KIND 2533 01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,320 OF TOOK A STAB AT IT AND YOU 2534 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:46,840 WOULDN'T WANT SO MANY FACTORS 2535 01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:48,360 THAT YOU END UP HAVING, BECAUSE 2536 01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:50,000 EACH OF THESE FACTORS WITHIN THE 2537 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,320 ASSOCIATED WITH MEASUREMENTS AND 2538 01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:52,840 YOU DON'T WANT A THOUSAND 2539 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,640 MEASUREMENTS, BUT YOU DON'T WANT 2540 01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:57,360 TOO FEW EITHER. 2541 01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:01,800 YOU WANT TO CAPTURE THE WHOLE SO 2542 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:03,760 WE SHE'D A REQUEST FOR 2543 01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,600 INFORMATION ON IDENTIFYING A SET 2544 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,200 OF DETERMINANTS FOR WHOLE PERSON 2545 01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,360 HEALTH AND THE KNEW THIS TO THE 2546 01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:13,920 GENERAL COMMUNITY AND WE ASKED 2547 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,760 PEOPLE, GIVE US A LIST OF -- WE 2548 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:19,760 GAVE A GUIDELINE OF NO MORE THAN 2549 01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:21,760 20, RIGHT. 2550 01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,880 FACTORS, WE DIDN'T WANT 100 BUT 2551 01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,120 WE WANTED LIMIT AND WE SAID IF 2552 01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,600 YOU HAD TO PICK 20 FACTORS THAT 2553 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,560 ARE IMPORTANT, TO CAPTURE THE 2554 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,120 HALF OF A WHOLE PERSON, WHAT 2555 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:33,160 WOULD THEY BE? 2556 01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,880 WE WERE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MUCH 2557 01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,520 OVERLAP THERE WOULD BE AND WE 2558 01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,280 DEFINED THESE ARE FACTORS THAT 2559 01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:42,480 CAN INFLUENCE HEALTH AS A 2560 01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:44,880 POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY AND 2561 01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,560 ENCOMPASS THE FULL CONTINUUM OF 2562 01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,320 BIOLOGICAL BEHAVIORAL AND SOCIAL 2563 01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:50,520 AND ENVIRONMENT. 2564 01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:54,000 SO, WE HAD A VERY NICE RESPONSE, 2565 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,880 THIS IS WHAT WE ASKED PEOPLE TO 2566 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:56,040 DO. 2567 01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:59,520 PROVIDE A LIST OF UP TO 20 2568 01:48:59,520 --> 01:48:59,760 FACTORS. 2569 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,680 WHEN POSSIBLE, WE ASKED THAT 2570 01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:03,000 THESE PROPOSED DETERMINANTS 2571 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,520 WOULD BE LISTED AS MEDICAL 2572 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:06,560 SUBJECT HEADINGS, WE WERE JUST 2573 01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,640 THINKING AHEAD OF HOW TO HANDLE 2574 01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:11,400 ALL OF THIS AND THEN WE ALSO 2575 01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:13,320 INDICATED THAT EVENTUALLY BUT WE 2576 01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,240 DIDN'T ASK POEM TO PROVIDE THE 2577 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:19,200 COMMON ELEMENTS YET AND WE JUST 2578 01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,520 WANTED TO HAVE THE FACTORS AND 2579 01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,560 WE STARTED DRAWING UP A LIST OF 2580 01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:24,840 COMMON DATA ELEMENT AND WE THINK 2581 01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,400 IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANTED 2582 01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,760 TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE 2583 01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:30,640 INTER OPERABLE THAT COULD BE 2584 01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,800 USED ACROSS MULTIPLE STUDIES SO 2585 01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,000 WE WANTED TO THINK ABOUT THIS 2586 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:36,200 VERY CAREFULLY. 2587 01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:41,360 WE HAD 83 INDIVIDUALS RESPOND 2588 01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,120 WHICH WE THINK IS A VERY GO 2589 01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:44,640 AHEAD RESPONSE AS FAR AS SURVEYS 2590 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,040 LIKE THIS AND IT'S REALLY QUITE 2591 01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:55,640 GOOD AND THERE WAS PEOPLE IT WAS 2592 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:57,160 SEVEN NUMBERS LISTED PER 2593 01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:58,440 RESPONDENT. 2594 01:49:58,440 --> 01:50:00,120 SOME PEOPLE GAVE UP TO 20 AND 2595 01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:01,960 SOME PEOPLE GAVE VERY FEW. 2596 01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:03,920 THERE WAS A TOTAL NUMBER OF 249 2597 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,600 TOTAL NUMBER OF UNIQUE 2598 01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:08,760 DETERMINANTS IDENTIFIED AND WE 2599 01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,280 KIND OF MAPPED THESE OUT AND AS 2600 01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,160 YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS KIND OF 2601 01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:13,960 WHAT WE SAW THE KINDS OF 2602 01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:15,320 DETERMINANTS THAT WERE VERY MUCH 2603 01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:16,640 SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT WE HAD 2604 01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:20,040 ON THAT CIRCLE DIAGRAM. 2605 01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,320 THE KIND OF THINGS YOU WOULD 2606 01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:22,800 EXPECT. 2607 01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:26,040 SLEEP, EXERCISE, FOOD AND DIET, 2608 01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,840 THERE WAS A LOT OF RELIGION, 2609 01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,000 SOCIAL SUPPORT, HEALTH SERVICES, 2610 01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,040 MINDFULNESS, MENTAL HEALTH AND 2611 01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:35,680 LEISURE ACTIVITY AND THE THINGS 2612 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,960 THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT AND IT WAS 2613 01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:45,800 INTERESTING THAT WHEN WE STARTED 2614 01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:51,920 SLEEP WAS NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER 2615 01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:52,520 TWO ECONOMIC SITUATION AND YOU 2616 01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,080 GO DOWN THE LIST AND THERE WAS 2617 01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:59,320 NO BIG, WE WERE LOOK FOR THIS 2618 01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:01,120 SORT OF GROUPS OUR THINGS WE WON 2619 01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:03,360 HAVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE 2620 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:04,800 FORGOTTEN OR OMITTED IN OUR 2621 01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,080 ORIGINAL AND WE'RE NOT REALLY. 2622 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:07,960 EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT 2623 01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,720 ABOUT WERE THE SAME KINDS OF 2624 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:12,840 THINGS THAT WE WERE THINKING 2625 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,520 ABOUT ORIGINALLY AND THERE WERE 2626 01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:17,920 VERY FEW THINGS WE HAD ON OUR 2627 01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:21,160 LIST THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED EARL 2628 01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:26,840 SO IT WAS A NICE CORRESPONDENTS 2629 01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:27,760 WITH THE THING WE EXPECTED SO 2630 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:31,920 HERE WHAT WE ATTEMPT TODAY DO IS 2631 01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,320 MAP OUT THESE MAJOR CATAGORIES 2632 01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:36,640 ACCORDING TO THE FACTORS 2633 01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:38,160 ACCORDING TO THE MAJOR 2634 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:39,520 CATEGORIES SO FOR EXAMPLE, AT 2635 01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:41,760 THE TOP, YOU WOULD SEE HERE, 2636 01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,120 DEMOGRAPHICS AND GENETICS AND 2637 01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,280 THE THINGS, AGE, SEX, GENDER 2638 01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,560 RACE, ETHNICITY BASICALLY AND 2639 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,200 GENETICS IN HERE AND THE NEXT 2640 01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,240 CATEGORY DOWN WOULD BE THE GROUP 2641 01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,440 OF SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL 2642 01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:58,360 DETERMINANTS AND SO THESE ARE 2643 01:51:58,360 --> 01:51:59,840 VERY, VERY SIMILAR IN FACT 2644 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:04,920 ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE KINDS OF 2645 01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,200 PERMANENT YOU SEE IN OTHER 2646 01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,920 EFFORTS ATTEMPTED TO PUT 2647 01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:13,240 TOGETHER DATASETS FOR SOCIAL 2648 01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:14,280 DETERMINANTS AND SOCIAL 2649 01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:14,920 DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH AND I'LL 2650 01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,720 GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IN 2651 01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:17,520 JUST A MINUTE. 2652 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,160 SO NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUILT 2653 01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:25,600 ENVIRONMENT HEALTHCARE ACCESS, 2654 01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:30,760 THIS IS VER BAIT UM TAKEN FROM 2655 01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,080 THESE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF 2656 01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:35,480 HEALTH COLLECTIONS FROM THIS AND 2657 01:52:35,480 --> 01:52:37,920 FROM THE HEALTH DOT GOVERNMENT 2658 01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,120 FOR EXAMPLE AND THERE'S ALSO 2659 01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:47,320 CURRENTLY A EFFORT LED BY THE 2660 01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:48,720 NCCIH FOR MINORITY HEALTH AND 2661 01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:52,280 HEALTH DISPARITIES AND NATIONAL 2662 01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:56,000 INSTITUTE AND TO DETERMINE A SET 2663 01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:02,080 OF DETERMINANTS FOR SOCIAL 2664 01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:02,680 DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH AND 2665 01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:04,120 THAT'S EXACTLY THAT FOR THIS 2666 01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:04,320 PORTION. 2667 01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,560 I HAPPEN TO SIT ON THE COMMITTEE 2668 01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,880 THAT OVERSEES THIS AND VERY 2669 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:10,680 SPECIFICALLY, THEY ARE 2670 01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,120 RESTRICTING THEMSELVES TO THE 2671 01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:13,640 SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL 2672 01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:15,200 DETERMINANTS AND THEY ARE NOT 2673 01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:16,520 ADDRESSING BEHAVIOR AND THEY'RE 2674 01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,560 NOT ADDRESSING THE BOY OLE CAL 2675 01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:24,680 FACTORS SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS 2676 01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:27,120 THAT WE WANT TO ALIGN TO WHAT 2677 01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:30,280 THIS PARTICULAR COMMIT SEE DOING 2678 01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:32,560 BUT WE WANT TO EXPAND OURS TO 2679 01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:37,280 INCLUDE THE BEHAVIOR AND THE 2680 01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:37,920 BIOLOGY AS WELL. 2681 01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,560 IT'S NOT GOING TO DUPLICATE OF 2682 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,680 THE EFFORTS OF THE SOCIAL 2683 01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:44,200 DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH BUT IT 2684 01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,320 WILL BE CONGRUENT WITH IT SO 2685 01:53:46,320 --> 01:54:09,520 THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND 2686 01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:10,920 NUTRITION IS A COLLECTIVE TEE 2687 01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:14,240 AND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SPIRITUAL 2688 01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:19,320 SO THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S 2689 01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:23,120 LESS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, LESS OF 2690 01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:24,560 THIS ALREADY EXISTING IN TERMS 2691 01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:28,360 OF THESE DATASETS TO BE 2692 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,280 INCOMPLETE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF 2693 01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:32,280 PLACES WHERE PEOPLE MENTION 2694 01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,560 DIET, PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, BUT 2695 01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:38,120 THEN SLEEP IS MISSING THERE'S NO 2696 01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,600 MENTION OF STRESS AND OTHER 2697 01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:42,600 PLACES FOCUS MORE ON SUBSTANCE 2698 01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,040 USE, SMOKING AND ALCOHOL. 2699 01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,440 IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS OUT THERE 2700 01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:50,800 IN THE LITERATURE, AGAIN, THIS 2701 01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:52,200 COOL HIT LIFESTYLE RISK FACTOR 2702 01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:57,760 FOR THE CDC AND THE ATTRITION, 2703 01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:01,320 PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, SMOKING, 2704 01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:02,720 ALCOHOL AND STRESS IS SOMETIMES 2705 01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:04,800 MISSING, A LOT OF TIMES MISSING, 2706 01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,680 STRESS MANAGEMENT AND SLEEP SO 2707 01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:08,360 YOU THINK THAT THIS IS AN AREA 2708 01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:13,120 WHERE WE REALLY CAN HELP 2709 01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,520 BRINGING THESE THINGS 2710 01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,200 INTEGRATING TOGETHER AND IF YOU 2711 01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:22,920 GO BACK, I ACTUALLY SHOULD MAKE 2712 01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,160 COMMENTS ABOUT THESE OTHER 2713 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,320 COLUMNS HERE AND SO FOR EACH 2714 01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:29,880 THESE DETERMINANTS WE LISTED 2715 01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,080 CATEGORIES OF DATA THAT YOU 2716 01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:31,280 FIND. 2717 01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:33,920 THIS IS BY NO MEANS SUPPOSED TO 2718 01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:35,160 BE EXHAUSTED RIGHT NOW. 2719 01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:37,200 THIS IS JUST A FIRST YES IS WHAT 2720 01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:45,960 TYPES OF DATA YOU COULD SELECT. 2721 01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:47,840 SO YOU COULD HAVE PATIENT 2722 01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:49,040 REPORTED OUTCOMES, SURVEYS, YOU 2723 01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:55,120 COULD ASK PEOPLE QUESTIONNAIRES 2724 01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:56,840 AND HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR 2725 01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:57,600 SAFETY OF YOUR HOME ENVIRONMENT? 2726 01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:01,440 DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR 2727 01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:01,880 HOUSING SITUATION? 2728 01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,320 DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO GREEN 2729 01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,920 SPACES, WE CAN ALSO GET SOME OF 2730 01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,000 THAT AND SPACIAL DATA AND YOU 2731 01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,120 COULD GET SOME INFORMATION FROM 2732 01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:17,120 TOX COL GOUGH HAIR SAMPLE AND 2733 01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:23,760 WHEN IT GETS TO THIS CATEGORY OF 2734 01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:33,280 BEHAVIOR AND YOU CAN LOOK AT 2735 01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:34,440 HYBRID VARIABILITY FROM YOUR 2736 01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:35,720 SMART WATCHES AND THIS IS 2737 01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:36,520 ANOTHER PLACE WHERE THERE COULD 2738 01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:37,960 BE DATA THAT COULD BE 2739 01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:38,280 INTEGRATED. 2740 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,520 SO NOW LET'S LOOK AT THIS 2741 01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:40,960 BIOLOGICAL OUTCOMES. 2742 01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:45,120 THIS IS THE CATEGORY THAT REALLY 2743 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:45,680 GAVE US A LOT OF THOUGHT AND 2744 01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,120 PAUSE AS TO HOW, WHERE WOULD YOU 2745 01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:49,400 PUT THIS CATEGORY AND A LOT OF 2746 01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,320 THIS OR NOT LITERALLY THE SAME 2747 01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,040 KIND OF NOT FACTORS THAT 2748 01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,120 INTEREST YOUR HEALTH SO MUCH AS 2749 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:55,520 OUTCOMES, RIGHT. 2750 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,720 YOUR MEASUREMENTS. 2751 01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:02,360 YOUR HEMOGLOBIN, YOUR LIPID 2752 01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:03,560 LEVELS, YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE, 2753 01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,000 YOUR MEASUREMENTS THAT YOU CAN 2754 01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,360 GET FROM A BLOOD SAMPLE OR FROM 2755 01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:08,760 MORE COMPLEX MEASUREMENTS THAT 2756 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,600 YOU MIGHT NOT GET UNLESS IF YOU 2757 01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:15,320 DO RESOURCE WHERE CAN YOU 2758 01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:18,960 MEASURE SOMEONE'S CARDIAC OUTPUT 2759 01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,680 PRELIMINARY FUNCTIONS AND GRIP 2760 01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:25,320 STRENGTH AND THOSE KINDS OF 2761 01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:25,760 THINGS. 2762 01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,080 SO, THESE ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE 2763 01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:28,960 YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE 2764 01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:32,720 THE PHYSIOLOGY AS WELL AS THE 2765 01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,120 BEHAVIOR AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE 2766 01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:36,720 LOOKED AT THE LITERATURE AND WE 2767 01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:37,640 FOUND SOME REALLY INTERESTING 2768 01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:39,560 THINGS AND PART OF THIS WAS 2769 01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:42,520 SHOWED UP AT OUR WORKSHOP SO WE 2770 01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,000 HAD A PRESENTATION AT OUR 2771 01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:46,920 WORKSHOP FOR WHOLE PERSON HEALTH 2772 01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:50,280 BY Dr. TERRY MOFFETT WHO FROM 2773 01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:51,520 DOWN WHO DOES WONDERFUL RESEARCH 2774 01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:56,760 ON THE BIOLOGICAL PACE OF AGING 2775 01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,280 AND THEY COLLECT A SET OF 2776 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:00,440 MEASUREMENTS IN ADULTS AND WE 2777 01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:11,560 CAN START EARLY, AGE 26 AND WHAT 2778 01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:19,720 THEY SEE IS THAT CAN YOU DEVELOP 2779 01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:46,400 YOU CAN SEE HERE VERY MUCH AND 2780 01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,160 YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REACH 2781 01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:50,520 THIS AND BLOOD PRESSURE, BLOOD 2782 01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:51,720 LIPIDS, PRELIMINARY FUNCTION 2783 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,200 TEST AND FASTING GLUCOSE, ET 2784 01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:54,560 CETERA. 2785 01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:58,320 SO, ON THE RIGHT HERE, MORE 2786 01:58:58,320 --> 01:58:59,480 PHYSICAL BALANCE. 2787 01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:01,600 GRIP STRENGTH, STANDING BALANCE, 2788 01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:08,080 WHAT IS THIS, GATE SPEED, ET 2789 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,640 CETERA YOU CAN MEASURE VARIOUS 2790 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,400 ASPECTS OF SOMEONE'S PHYSIOLOGY 2791 01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:13,880 DEPENDING ON HOW FANCY YOU WANT 2792 01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:14,400 TO GET. 2793 01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:17,240 IF YOUR STUDY ONLY HAS ACCESS TO 2794 01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:20,480 ONE BLOOD SAMPLE, OBVIOUSLY GATE 2795 01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:22,040 SPEED BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO 2796 01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:26,320 DO A NUMBER OF MEASURES THAT END 2797 01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:31,800 UP ON HERE WHAT THEY SHOWED IN 2798 01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:32,720 THE STUDY WHICH WAS CENTERING IS 2799 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:37,320 THAT WHEN YOU PUT ALL OF THOSE 2800 01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:40,200 MEASUREMENTS TOGETHER, YOU GET A 2801 01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:42,320 SENSE OF WHAT KIND OF AGING 2802 01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:43,400 TRAJECTORY THEY'RE IN AND WE 2803 01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:46,200 THINK THIS AGING TRAJECTORY 2804 01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:49,720 WOULD BE RELATED TO HEALTH 2805 01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:51,200 BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE YOU GET 2806 01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:52,520 OLDER AND A LOT OF THESE 2807 01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:53,560 BIOMARKERS ARE CHANGING OVER 2808 01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,000 TIME BUT YOU START GAINING A 2809 01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:56,880 LITTLE WEIGHT, YOU START MAYBE 2810 01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:58,440 DEVELOPING SOME PRE DIABETES AND 2811 01:59:58,440 --> 01:59:59,480 THAT IS GOING TO INFLUENCE A LOT 2812 01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:01,120 OF THESE MEASUREMENTS AS WELL. 2813 02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:03,120 AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE 2814 02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:04,680 MODIFIABLE AND SO THAT IF YOU 2815 02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:06,480 START MAYBE REALIZING YOU NEED 2816 02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:09,720 YOUR EXERCISE MORE OR IMPROVE 2817 02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:12,920 YOUR DIET OR MAYBE MANAGE YOUR 2818 02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:16,520 STRESS, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO 2819 02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,480 BEND THAT CURVE BACK AND 2820 02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:21,320 RECORRECT YOUR AGING TRAJECTORY. 2821 02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:22,800 SO THIS IS EXCITING FROM THE 2822 02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,240 POINT OF VIEW OF NOT JUST HEALTH 2823 02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:29,920 RECEIPRESTORATION. 2824 02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:33,520 THE TWO PROCESSES WILL BE 2825 02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:33,760 RELATED. 2826 02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:35,120 SO HERE IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT 2827 02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:35,800 NOW. 2828 02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:37,040 SO WE TOOK THESE FACTORS WHICH 2829 02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:42,720 WE SHOWED YOU ON THAT COLUMN ON 2830 02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:59,720 THE LEFT AND AND PURPOSELY TO 2831 02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:00,920 PUT THEM AROUND THE CIRCLE, I'LL 2832 02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:05,160 TELL YOU WHY IN A MINUTE. 2833 02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:08,840 WE NEED TO CAPTURE THE 2834 02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,440 PHYSIOLOGY SO, THE WAY WE 2835 02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:12,280 CONCEPTUALIZE THAT IS PUTTING 2836 02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:14,880 THESE MEASUREMENTS THAT 2837 02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:17,360 REPRESENT THE FUNCTION OF ALL 2838 02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:18,920 THESE VARIOUS GEOLOGICAL SYSTEMS 2839 02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:21,320 AT THE CENTER OF THIS CIRCLE TO 2840 02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:24,120 SORT OF SHOW THAT THERE ARE 2841 02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:25,120 VARIOUS LEVELS, RIGHT, OF WHAT 2842 02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:26,080 CAN YOU DO. 2843 02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:27,120 YOU CAN LOOKED AT THE FACTORS 2844 02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:30,320 AND OUTCOMES AND YOU LOOK AT 2845 02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:30,800 BOTH. 2846 02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:40,320 AND THIS IS ALSO A DOCTOR JUST 2847 02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:42,920 SENT US THIS INTERESTING ARTICLE 2848 02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:46,480 A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO ABOUT SOME 2849 02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:47,520 MEASUREMENTS AND THAT AND MAYBE 2850 02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:50,880 THEN YOU CAN TELL US, GIVE US 2851 02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:53,320 SOME COMMENTS AFTER THIS. 2852 02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:57,360 IN TERMS OF CAPTURING WITH A FEW 2853 02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:00,640 SMALL NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, GET 2854 02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:03,160 PEOPLE TO GIVE US A QUICK TOUCH 2855 02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:04,560 POINT OF HOW THEY'RE DOING IN 2856 02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,080 TERMS OF THEIR OVER ALL HEALTH 2857 02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:08,920 AND WELLBEING WHICH THESE 2858 02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:11,240 VARIOUS FACTORS MAY NOT GET TO 2859 02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:14,000 SO WE WERE THINKING THERE MAY BE 2860 02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,880 SOME VALUE HERE TO ADD ANOTHER 2861 02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:18,320 CIRCLE TO THIS AND WE WERE 2862 02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:20,920 THINKING PUTTING IT IN THE 2863 02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:21,640 MIDDLE. 2864 02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:22,560 BASICALLY, ASKING PEOPLE HOW ARE 2865 02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:23,240 YOU DOING. 2866 02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:26,600 HOW ARE YOU FEELING? 2867 02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:28,120 AND GETTING A SENSE OF THEIR 2868 02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:29,560 OVER ALL HEALTH. 2869 02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:31,120 IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE THINKING 2870 02:02:31,120 --> 02:02:31,480 ABOUT. 2871 02:02:31,480 --> 02:02:33,720 NOW MAYBE WE'RE ADDING TO THIS. 2872 02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:37,480 WHERE THIS CIRCLE FITS ON OUR, 2873 02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:43,320 WE THINK IN OUR OVER ALL THE 2874 02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:44,760 WHOLE PERSON HEALTH THERE'S A 2875 02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:48,520 POTENTIAL FOR IN CORPORATING, 2876 02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:49,320 RIGHT, THIS ZEST DETERMINANTS 2877 02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:50,840 AND WITH OUR WHOLE CONCEPT OF 2878 02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:53,320 WHOLE PERSON HEALTH AND SO THIS 2879 02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:54,920 IS HOW WE TRIED TO PUT IT 2880 02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:55,880 TOGETHER WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU 2881 02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:57,120 HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL AND YOU HAVE 2882 02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:58,920 THESE VARIOUS DIFFERENT DOMAINS 2883 02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:00,520 AND THEN WITHIN THESE DOMAINS, 2884 02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:01,920 YOU HAVE THESE FACTORS THAT 2885 02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:02,680 INFLUENCE HEALTH AND THEN YOU 2886 02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:04,920 HAVE ASSOCIATED OUTCOMES AND 2887 02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:06,240 IT'S INTERESTING TO COMPARE THIS 2888 02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:07,680 TO WHAT IS ALREADY THERE SO IF 2889 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,320 YOU LOOK AT THE V.A., AND YOU 2890 02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:16,960 LOOK AT -- EXCUSE ME. 2891 02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:18,920 YOU LOOK AT THE VARIOUS FACTORS 2892 02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:22,760 THAT ARE PART OF THE WHOLE 2893 02:03:22,760 --> 02:03:25,200 HEALTH, AND THEN YOU ALSO LOOK 2894 02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:28,600 AT THE CONSORTIUM FOR HEALTH AND 2895 02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:30,480 MILITARY PERFORMANCE THERE'S A 2896 02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:32,400 CIRCLE THEME AT THESE VARIOUS 2897 02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:33,880 FACTORS AND VERY MUCH SIMILAR 2898 02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:36,280 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARMY 2899 02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:38,200 MEDICINE MOVE TO HEALTH, AGAIN, 2900 02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:39,800 THESE SAME THEMES KEEP COMING 2901 02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:41,480 BACK AND THEN WE FOUND A COUPLE 2902 02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:42,800 OTHERS, THERE'S ONE FROM THE 2903 02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:46,800 CDC, CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL 2904 02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:52,800 AND PREVENTION AND AGAIN, THIS 2905 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:59,320 VERY SIMILAR FACTORS DID THEN 2906 02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:02,560 COMPARING THEM WITH THE DOD AND 2907 02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,880 CHAP AND VA AND IF WE LOOK 2908 02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:08,040 ACROSS EACH OF THESE LINES, LOOK 2909 02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:09,200 HOW SIMILAR THIS IS. 2910 02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:13,360 THERE'S REALLY NO BIG GAPS. 2911 02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:15,240 THERE'S ONE PLACE THAT IT STOOD 2912 02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:19,520 OUT IS SUBSTANCE USE, THAT IS 2913 02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:21,280 NOT MENTIONED IN THESE AND 2914 02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:23,400 PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF 2915 02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:42,000 FOLDED INTO OTHER DOMAINS AND 2916 02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:44,840 AND THIS IS STRENGTH IN THE 2917 02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:45,880 EMOTIONAL POWER OF MIND. 2918 02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:49,520 PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES AND PRETTY 2919 02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:53,360 MUCH THERE AND NUTRITION IS 2920 02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:57,520 THERE AND FINANCIAL SECURITY IS 2921 02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,600 NOT MENTIONED ACROSS THE BOARD 2922 02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:01,760 AND EDUCATIONAL, DEVELOPMENT, 2923 02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:03,400 PRETTY MUCH PERSONAL 2924 02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:03,880 DEVELOPMENT. 2925 02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:07,160 HEALTHCARE SERVICES IS MENTIONED 2926 02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:08,240 AND NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUILT 2927 02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:08,920 ENVIRONMENT SO YOU CAN SEE 2928 02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:10,560 THERE'S A LOT OF CONCORDANCE 2929 02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:12,200 HERE AND IT GAVE US THE SENSE 2930 02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:13,320 THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE 2931 02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:14,120 SAME THING. 2932 02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:16,920 SO WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP. 2933 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:19,800 SO, WE SEE A PRETTY CONFIDENT 2934 02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:21,320 NOW THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD 2935 02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:23,040 FOR DEFINING THE SET OF COMMON 2936 02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:24,320 DATA ELEMENTS FROM THE POINT OF 2937 02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:26,560 VIEW OF RESEARCH, RIGHT. 2938 02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:28,600 THIS IS NOT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE 2939 02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:30,880 REALLY FOCUSING ON HOW WE'LL 2940 02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:32,120 MEASURE THIS SO WE'RE GOING TO 2941 02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:37,920 START WITH EACH OF THESE FACTORS 2942 02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:39,480 AND WE'LL DEVELOP TYPES OF DATA 2943 02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:47,120 LIKE WE SAID. 2944 02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:48,240 AND WEARABLE DATA, ET CETERA, 2945 02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:51,320 HOW DO YOU BUILD A SET THAT 2946 02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:53,160 WOULD BE COMPACT ENOUGH THAT IT 2947 02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:56,240 WOULD NOT BE TOTALLY UNWIELDING 2948 02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:59,120 BUT YET HOLISTIC ENOUGH THAT IT 2949 02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:00,680 WOULD REALLY CAPTURE THE WHOLE 2950 02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:02,680 SO WE HAVEN'T ENGAGE ON THIS 2951 02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:07,120 BEFORE WE GO AND HE WANTED TO 2952 02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:16,280 HAVE YOUR INPUT AND WE REALLY 2953 02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:17,720 WANTED TO GET A SENSE FROM YOU 2954 02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:20,200 ALL AS TO FIRST OF ALL, HOW DO 2955 02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:21,920 YOU THINK WE'RE DOING WITH THIS 2956 02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:24,480 AND DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ABOUT 2957 02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:27,200 HOW TO GO ABOUT THE -- AS I 2958 02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:28,360 MENTIONED FOR THE SECOND STEP 2959 02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:30,520 WE'LL TRY TO NOT REINVENT THE 2960 02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:31,920 WHEEL WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 2961 02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:32,880 SOURCES THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE 2962 02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:34,960 THINGS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE AND 2963 02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,320 TRIED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO 2964 02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:39,320 INTEGRATE, RIGHT, THESE COMMON 2965 02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:40,960 DATA ELEMENTS FROM OTHER SOURCES 2966 02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:42,560 BUT AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THIS HAS 2967 02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:44,240 NEVER BEEN DONE IN TERMS OF 2968 02:06:44,240 --> 02:06:45,680 INTEGRATING ALL OF THOSE VARIOUS 2969 02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:47,880 AND WE'VE LOOKED HARD. 2970 02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:49,920 THE SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT ALBO 2971 02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:51,960 XAVIER AND BIOLOGICAL ALL IN 2972 02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:52,120 ONE. 2973 02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:53,760 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN 2974 02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:54,120 DONE. 2975 02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:55,320 SO, THAT'S WHY WE THINK THIS IS 2976 02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:57,520 GOING TO BE VERY IMPACTFUL. 2977 02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:00,680 SO I'M GOING TO STOP HERE AND I 2978 02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:03,600 WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR 2979 02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:03,880 COMMENTS. 2980 02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:08,280 >> Dr. KEIGLER. 2981 02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:11,960 >> I SAID THIS BEFORE BUT, THIS 2982 02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:22,600 IS JUST FABULOUS AND SYSTEMATIC 2983 02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:24,320 WE ARE COMING UP WITH IS 2984 02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:25,760 CONGRUENT WITH THE ORGANIC 2985 02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:27,480 EVOLUTION OF THIS IN MULTIPLE 2986 02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:29,160 SYSTEMS AND SETTINGS OVER THE 2987 02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:32,120 LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS AND SO YOU 2988 02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:33,120 KNOW, IF THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW 2989 02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:35,160 WHAT THEY CALL THAT FACE 2990 02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,520 VALIDITY OR SOMETHING, I THINK 2991 02:07:37,520 --> 02:07:42,280 THAT'S A GREAT START AND I'LL 2992 02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:43,240 JUST COMMENT BRIEFLY. 2993 02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:46,120 ONE THING I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW 2994 02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,120 IS THAT SOME OF YOU GUYS MAY 2995 02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:48,960 HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH 2996 02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:52,040 SOMETHING THAT V.A. HEALTH 2997 02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:54,400 SERVICE RESEARCH DOES ONCE OR 2998 02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:55,200 TWICE A YEAR. 2999 02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:57,120 A STATE OF THE ART CONFERENCE OR 3000 02:07:57,120 --> 02:08:01,680 A SODA CONFERENCE AND OUR 3001 02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,640 ACRONYM ANALOGY, IT'S CALLED THE 3002 02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:04,880 SODA. 3003 02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:08,120 WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING 3004 02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:10,920 ONE AND THESE ARE TWO-DAY 3005 02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:12,160 CONFERENCES AND 60 OR 70 PEOPLE 3006 02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:16,280 COME AND THEY TACKLE A 3007 02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:17,720 PARTICULAR PROBLEM OR QUESTION 3008 02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:22,400 THAT IS OF IMPORTANCE TO V.A. 3009 02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:24,400 BOTH FROM CLINICAL PRADO MAIN 3010 02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:25,160 AND POPULATION HEALTH AND 3011 02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:32,920 RESEARCH AGENDA DOMAINS SO IT'S 3012 02:08:32,920 --> 02:08:36,120 CALLED MEASURING WHAT MATTERS 3013 02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:37,680 COLON, WHOLE PERSON OUTCOMES AND 3014 02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:41,480 CLINICAL POPULATION HEALTH AND 3015 02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:47,800 WE HAVE ERIN FROM NCCIH WITH US 3016 02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:51,320 WE ANTICIPATE MORE FOLKS FROM 3017 02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:53,040 NIH WILL BE INVOLVED AS WE GO 3018 02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:55,120 ALONG AND SO I WANTED TO ADD 3019 02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:56,640 THAT TO THE LATTER OF WORK WE 3020 02:08:56,640 --> 02:09:01,440 ARE DOING TOGETHER TO BUILD THIS 3021 02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:02,800 WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS AND WAY 3022 02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:04,000 OF MEASURING THINGS AND THINKING 3023 02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:05,120 ABOUT THINGS IN THIS WHOLE 3024 02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:13,280 PERSON CON SEX SO THAT IS SO 3025 02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:16,240 PEOPLE HAVE THE BACKGROUND WHY 3026 02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:18,560 V.A. IS STREAMING FORWARD AND 3027 02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:22,920 V.A. MOVED TOWARDS A KIND OF 3028 02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:24,080 WHOLE PERSON APPROACH TO CARE 3029 02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:41,160 AND MORE OF AN EMPHASIS AND SO 3030 02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:42,280 THERE'S NOW A REAL CONVERSATION 3031 02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:44,680 ACROSS THE V.A. ABOUT HOW DO WE 3032 02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:45,960 KNOW IF WE'RE DOING THAT AND HOW 3033 02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:48,200 DO WE KNOW IF WE'RE SUCCEEDING 3034 02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:49,520 AND PROMOTING WELLBEING SO 3035 02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:51,000 THAT'S A PART OF THE MOMENTUM 3036 02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:54,120 FOR THIS WITHIN V.A. IS THE FACT 3037 02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:56,480 THAT V.A. AS A HEALTH SYSTEM HAS 3038 02:09:56,480 --> 02:09:57,440 RECOGNIZED THE NEED THAT AT 3039 02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:01,280 LEAST FOR THE VETERAN 3040 02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:02,880 POPULATION, STOPPING AT DISEASE 3041 02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:04,840 MANAGEMENT AND STOPPING AT THE 3042 02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:06,080 MORE REDUCTIONISTIC DISEASE 3043 02:10:06,080 --> 02:10:07,480 ORIENTED APPROACH TO CARE JUST, 3044 02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:09,720 YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T, WE HAVE TO 3045 02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:11,600 KEEP GOING AND SO AS SUCH WE 3046 02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:13,480 NEED A WAY TO LOOK AT IT AND A 3047 02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:16,600 WAY TO OPEN UP THE V.A. RESEARCH 3048 02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:19,800 AGENDA TO THIS SO I'M REALLY 3049 02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:20,920 EXCITED ABOUT MORE CONVERSATIONS 3050 02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:22,320 WITH THIS OVER THE NEXT YEAR TOO 3051 02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:23,920 AND ALSO I THINK THE TIMING WILL 3052 02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:25,840 BE GREAT FOR YOU GUYS TO SHARE 3053 02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:30,280 WHAT WORK YOU ARE DOING AT THE 3054 02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:41,680 SODA AND I LOVE PUTTING IT IN 3055 02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:42,240 THE CENTER. 3056 02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:43,560 BECAUSE THE MEASURE IN THE 3057 02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:44,520 ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT IN HEALTH 3058 02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:46,760 A CARES, IT'S CALLED FOREFRONT 3059 02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:49,160 NOW, IT USED TO BE CALLED HEALTH 3060 02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:50,120 AFFAIRS BLOG BUT PEOPLE DON'T 3061 02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:54,080 USE THE WORD BLOG ANYMORE. 3062 02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:57,560 IT DESCRIBES OUR RATIONALE 3063 02:10:57,560 --> 02:10:58,680 DESCRIBING THE WELLBEING SIGN 3064 02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:01,520 WHICH IT'S DEVELOPED BY DON VOTE 3065 02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:04,080 A WONDERFUL HEALTH SERVICES AND 3066 02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:06,920 PTSD RESEARCHER IN THE V.A. 3067 02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:08,440 AND WHAT THE WELLBEING SIGN 3068 02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:10,920 OFFERS IS A TOOL THAT'S BRIEF 3069 02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:12,320 ENOUGH -- WHAT WE NEED IS 3070 02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:13,520 SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO 3071 02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:15,160 INTRODUCE INTO THE CLINICAL 3072 02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:17,840 SETTING SO IT HAS TO BE SUPER 3073 02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:20,160 SHORT AND SO WE HAD TO FOCUS IN 3074 02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:23,440 ON WHICH OF THESE 20 MILLION 3075 02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:24,560 DOMAINS OF WHAT GOES INTO WHOLE 3076 02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:28,200 PERSON HEALTH AND WELLBEING 3077 02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:29,640 MAKES -- WHERE DO WE NEED THAT 3078 02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,360 IMMEDIATE FOCUS TO BE AND SO FOR 3079 02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:35,680 US, WHAT IT DOES, IT SAYS WHAT 3080 02:11:35,680 --> 02:11:37,200 MATTERS TO YOU MOST IN YOUR LIFE 3081 02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:37,680 RIGHT NOW? 3082 02:11:37,680 --> 02:11:39,040 WHAT ARE THE ROLES MOST 3083 02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:40,240 IMPORTANT TO YOU IN YOUR LIFE 3084 02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:41,000 RIGHT NOW? 3085 02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:42,320 IT COULD BE YOUR HEALTH, YOUR 3086 02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:44,400 WORK, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR 3087 02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:45,240 FINANCES, YOUR LEISURE TIME. 3088 02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:46,520 TELL US OVER THE LAST THREE 3089 02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:49,120 MONTHS HOW YOU ARE DOING, 3090 02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:52,960 FUNCTIONINGS, ENGAGEMENT, 3091 02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:54,160 SATISFACTION, IN THOSE ROLES SO 3092 02:11:54,160 --> 02:11:57,720 IT TELLS THE PERSON TO PICK WHAT 3093 02:11:57,720 --> 02:11:59,920 IS IMPORTANT TO THEM AND THEN 3094 02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:00,960 SUBJECTIVELY REPORT HOW THEY'RE 3095 02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:03,920 DOING AND SO, TO ME, PUTTING 3096 02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:06,400 SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE 3097 02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:07,720 MIDDLE, WHAT MATTERS TO THE 3098 02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:08,440 PERSON? 3099 02:12:08,440 --> 02:12:09,440 IF YOU LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF 3100 02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:16,840 THOSE OTHER CIRCLES, TOTAL FORCE 3101 02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:18,200 FITNESS HAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT 3102 02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:19,880 IN DISTRICT AND SOME OF THE REST 3103 02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:22,120 OF US WILL SAY ISN'T THAT 3104 02:12:22,120 --> 02:12:22,880 PURPOSE AND MEANING. 3105 02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:24,040 BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT 3106 02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:25,720 BECAUSE IT'S HOW DOES PURPOSE 3107 02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:28,680 AND MEANING MANIFEST IN WHAT YOU 3108 02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:29,880 ARE DOING IN YOUR LIFE. 3109 02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:31,760 IT TAKES PURPOSE AND MEANING AND 3110 02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:36,520 GIVES IT A CONCRETE SHAPE IN 3111 02:12:36,520 --> 02:12:37,080 YOUR LIFE. 3112 02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:39,120 SO, ANYWAY, COULD I GO ON AND ON 3113 02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:39,400 ABOUT IT. 3114 02:12:39,400 --> 02:12:40,480 I WOULD LOVE IF PEOPLE READ THE 3115 02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:43,720 ARTICLE AND I THINK IT'S SINCE 3116 02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:45,480 IT'S A BLOG YOU CAN -- I HAVEN'T 3117 02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:47,200 CHECKED FOR COMMENTS. 3118 02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:52,840 WE'RE PILOTING THIS VERY BRIEF 3119 02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:54,440 TOOL IN CLINICAL PRACTICE IN 15 3120 02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:56,120 SITES NOWMENT WE'RE PILOTING IN 3121 02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:57,400 SOME OF THE V.A. POPULATION 3122 02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:00,120 HEALTH STRATEGIES LIKE THERE'S A 3123 02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:01,920 50,000-PERSON VETERAN SURVEY OF 3124 02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:02,960 ENROLL'S THAT GOES OUT EVERY 3125 02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:04,280 YEAR SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT 3126 02:13:04,280 --> 02:13:08,000 IT CAN DO FOR US BASICALLY AND 3127 02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:09,760 RECOGNIZING THAT NO ONE BRIEF 3128 02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:11,280 TOOL WILL DO THE WHOLE TICKET. 3129 02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:14,360 I'LL STOP THERE, I'M SURE A LOT 3130 02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:15,360 OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THOUGHTS. 3131 02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:16,400 >> THANK YOU, BEN. 3132 02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:18,120 ALL OF YOUR INPUT IS SO 3133 02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:19,920 IMPORTANT AND IT'S SO HAPPY THAT 3134 02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:22,440 WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. 3135 02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:24,840 THERE WOULD BE NO POINT IN DOING 3136 02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:28,840 THIS IF IT WAS NOT MESHING WITH 3137 02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:29,920 OTHER EFFORTS AND ESPECIALLY, 3138 02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:31,880 YOU KNOW, YEAH, WHAT IS GOING ON 3139 02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:34,320 AND THAT IS YOUR EFFORT AND 3140 02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:38,320 WHOLE HEALTH AND THE V.A. AND 3141 02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:42,760 PROCEEDED A LOT OF OUR SERVING 3142 02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:44,640 WITH SO LORI WHICH I'M VERY 3143 02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:45,600 EXCITED THAT YOU ARE THINKING 3144 02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:46,800 ABOUT THIS FROM A POINT OF VIEW 3145 02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:47,840 OF WHOLE HEALTH INSTITUTE. 3146 02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:49,520 >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL IT'S HARD 3147 02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:52,200 TO FOLLOW BEN SO I'M JUST GOING 3148 02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:52,960 TO SAY THAT. 3149 02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:57,520 I AM THRILLED TO SEE THIS. 3150 02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:02,200 IT FEELS LIKE YEARS OF WORK 3151 02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:03,600 THROUGH THE ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE 3152 02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:04,800 WORLD AND WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED 3153 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:07,120 ABOUT WHOLE PERSON HEALTH IN A 3154 02:14:07,120 --> 02:14:08,200 DIFFERENT WAY AND NOW TO SEE 3155 02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:11,320 THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT HOW 3156 02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:12,800 TO MEASURE THIS. 3157 02:14:12,800 --> 02:14:16,280 AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOCAL 3158 02:14:16,280 --> 02:14:17,920 COMMUNITY CLINICAL ADVISORY 3159 02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:20,000 GROUP AND EVERY TIME WE MEET 3160 02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:22,040 THEY TALK ABOUT THESE ARE 3161 02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:23,240 PHYSICIANS AND OTHER 3162 02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:24,280 PRACTITIONERS WHO TALK ABOUT ALL 3163 02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:27,000 OF THESE ASPECTS ARE THINGS THAT 3164 02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:28,320 THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING ASKED TO 3165 02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:31,240 BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR IN PAYMENT 3166 02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:32,400 BECAUSE OF HOW THEY AFFECT 3167 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:34,000 DISEASE AND ILLNESS AND YET THEY 3168 02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:35,080 HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THIS AND 3169 02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:36,880 THEY HAVE NO REAL WAY TO MEASURE 3170 02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:38,520 IT EFFECTIVELY SO WHEN WE TALK 3171 02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:42,000 ABOUT VALUE-BASED CARE AND WHOLE 3172 02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:43,320 PERSON HEALTH, WHAT IS HAPPENING 3173 02:14:43,320 --> 02:14:45,440 HERE IS ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE TO 3174 02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:49,320 MOVE THIS WORK FORWARD. 3175 02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:50,680 ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD AND 3176 02:14:50,680 --> 02:14:52,120 WE TALKED ABOUT THIS I THINK 3177 02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:55,840 EARLY ON IN THE DOMAIN THAT IS 3178 02:14:55,840 --> 02:14:56,920 LISTED AS FAMILY, SOCIAL AND 3179 02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:59,600 COMMUNITY CONTEXT, I WONDER IF 3180 02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:03,040 IMPLICIT IN THAT IS HEALTH 3181 02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:03,760 BELIEFS, VALUES AND ATTITUDES 3182 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,360 BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT IS 3183 02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:08,880 FUNDAMENTAL TO HOW PEOPLE CHOSE 3184 02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:10,760 THEIR HEALTH AND HOW THEY RELATE 3185 02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:12,800 IN THEIR COMMUNITY AROUND THEIR 3186 02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:14,600 HEALTH AND NOT JUST HEALTH 3187 02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:17,920 ACCESS BUT OBVIOUSLY THEIR 3188 02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:19,360 HEALTH BEHAVIOR SO THAT WAS JUST 3189 02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:19,720 ONE QUESTION. 3190 02:15:19,720 --> 02:15:21,440 I'M JUST SO THRILLED AND I'M SO 3191 02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:23,240 THRILLED TO BE AT THIS TIME IN 3192 02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:26,800 PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU ALL AROUND 3193 02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:27,000 THIS. 3194 02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:28,920 >> THANK YOU, ALREADI'. 3195 02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:32,000 WE CERTAINLY ARE VERY MUCH 3196 02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:33,720 WELCOME FEEDBACK ABOUT TWEAKING 3197 02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:35,400 SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES. 3198 02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:36,840 WE STRUGGLED WITH THAT ONE AND 3199 02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:39,920 WHERE TO PUT IT. 3200 02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:41,520 YEAH, WE CAN REITERATE AND MAKE 3201 02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:44,240 SURE THAT WE GET IT JUST RIGHT. 3202 02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:48,920 SO, I HAVE RICK, HELEN AND NADJA 3203 02:15:48,920 --> 02:15:52,720 AND I HOPE THAT WAS THE RIGHT 3204 02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:52,920 ORDER. 3205 02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:57,600 >> O I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T KNOW IF I SH OULD 3206 02:15:57,600 --> 02:15:59,360 FOLLOW BEN AND LORI. 3207 02:15:59,360 --> 02:16:01,040 THIS IS VERY EYE-OPENING FOR ME 3208 02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:01,920 AND I LOVE IT. 3209 02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:03,520 ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND MYSELF 3210 02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:05,880 QUESTIONING WAS YOU KNOW, WHERE 3211 02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:06,720 WAS PAIN? 3212 02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:08,120 MANY OF THE TIMES WE THINK ABOUT 3213 02:16:08,120 --> 02:16:09,920 PAIN IS THE MAJOR REASON WHY 3214 02:16:09,920 --> 02:16:10,960 PEOPLE SEEK HEALTHCARE AND 3215 02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:12,120 THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WANTED 3216 02:16:12,120 --> 02:16:16,440 ABSENCE OF DISEASE, OBVIOUSLY, 3217 02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:18,520 BUT I CAN SEE WHERE THE PRESENCE 3218 02:16:18,520 --> 02:16:22,440 OF PAIN WOULD BE A LINCHPIN THAT 3219 02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:24,200 ARE THE FACTORS IN THAT CIRCLE. 3220 02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:26,000 YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR 3221 02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:28,760 FAMILY, YOUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE, 3222 02:16:28,760 --> 02:16:31,320 YOUR SLEEP, I WOULD SEE THAT 3223 02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:33,840 SYMPTOM AS DROPPING UP AS A 3224 02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:36,960 MAJOR CONTRIBUTE OR TO IT AND I 3225 02:16:36,960 --> 02:16:38,040 KNOW NCCIH HAS HISTORICALLY 3226 02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:39,680 ALIGNED ITSELF WITH THAT SYMPTOM 3227 02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:43,120 FOR A LOT OF ITS FUNDING SO JUST 3228 02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:44,360 CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE THINKING 3229 02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:46,880 IS BEHIND THAT. 3230 02:16:46,880 --> 02:16:48,720 WHY WAS IT DISCUSSED OR NOT? 3231 02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:51,400 >> IT'S SUCH A GOOD QUESTION AND 3232 02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:56,000 YES, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING WHERE 3233 02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:59,680 PAIN WAS ALMOST NOT ON THE LIST 3234 02:16:59,680 --> 02:17:01,080 FROM THE RFI. 3235 02:17:01,080 --> 02:17:05,320 HE HAD PAIWE HAD PAIN AS A SEPARATE 3236 02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:05,720 BUBBLE. 3237 02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:07,440 PAIN AND ALSO IMPORTANTLY PAIN 3238 02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:08,120 MANAGEMENT, RIGHT. 3239 02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:09,760 HOW DO YOU MANAGE THE PAIN. 3240 02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:13,480 SO WE HAD STRESS AND STRESS 3241 02:17:13,480 --> 02:17:14,760 MANAGEMENT IN ONE BUBBLE AND WE 3242 02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:17,320 HAD PAIN AND PAIN MANAGEMENT AS 3243 02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:18,160 ANOTHER BUBBLE. 3244 02:17:18,160 --> 02:17:22,320 FOR SOME REASON, THEY GOT SORT 3245 02:17:22,320 --> 02:17:25,240 OF, MAYBE WE SHOULD EITHER 3246 02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:27,920 DECOUPLE THEM OR ADD MAYBE PAIN 3247 02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:28,920 TO THE STRESS AND PAIN. 3248 02:17:28,920 --> 02:17:29,600 I DON'T KNOW. 3249 02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:31,000 IT'S TRICKY, RIGHT. 3250 02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:32,720 WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP 3251 02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:33,920 MULTIPLYING BECAUSE IF YOU SAY 3252 02:17:33,920 --> 02:17:35,960 PAIN, BUT WE HAVE SLEEP. 3253 02:17:35,960 --> 02:17:39,520 AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE PAIN, WE 3254 02:17:39,520 --> 02:17:41,520 HAVE SOME THUMBS UP HERE. 3255 02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:44,320 SO, SHOULD IT BE A SEPARATE 3256 02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:45,760 BUBBLE OR SHOULD IT BE COUPLED 3257 02:17:45,760 --> 02:17:46,280 WITH STRESS? 3258 02:17:46,280 --> 02:17:48,040 >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD BE 3259 02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:48,640 IN THERE. 3260 02:17:48,640 --> 02:17:50,160 IF YOU ARE THINKING OF IT AS 3261 02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,600 LIKE A DISEASE OR APPROACH AND 3262 02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:53,920 THAT IS FAILED US TO SOME DEGREE 3263 02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:56,480 AND WE WANT TO GET TO THE WHOLE 3264 02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:57,960 BODY, WHOLE-PERSON APPROACH AND 3265 02:17:57,960 --> 02:17:59,720 IT'S A NEW ANGLE THEN MAYBE WE 3266 02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:01,720 DON'T NEED TO BE SO FOCUSED ON 3267 02:18:01,720 --> 02:18:03,120 PAIN BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE 3268 02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:06,680 PROBABLY ARE BECAUSE I THINK IT 3269 02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:07,920 IS A BARRIER FOR WHOLE PERSON 3270 02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:08,120 HEALTH. 3271 02:18:08,120 --> 02:18:09,560 >> IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. 3272 02:18:09,560 --> 02:18:10,880 IF YOU HAVE PAIN AND WHAT ELSE 3273 02:18:10,880 --> 02:18:12,680 YOU PUT IN THERE BUT IT SEEMS 3274 02:18:12,680 --> 02:18:13,960 IMPORTANT ENOUGH, RIGHT, WE HAD 3275 02:18:13,960 --> 02:18:17,120 IT IN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND 3276 02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:19,480 SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP. 3277 02:18:19,480 --> 02:18:24,960 ANY OTHER PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS 3278 02:18:24,960 --> 02:18:28,440 ABOUT PAIN? 3279 02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:33,480 >> WELL YOU COULD SAY, THERE ARE 3280 02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:35,200 A LOT OF OUTSIDE FACTORS, 3281 02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:36,560 CONDITIONS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL 3282 02:18:36,560 --> 02:18:38,080 WOULD HAVE THAT IMPINGE ON 3283 02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:39,040 MULTIPLE DOMAINS. 3284 02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:41,600 SO IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT LIKE -- 3285 02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:44,040 LIKE THIS MODEL CAN'T CAPTURE 3286 02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:46,720 EVERY SINGLE THING. 3287 02:18:46,720 --> 02:18:49,000 I'M STRUGGLING WITH HOW TO PUT 3288 02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:49,600 IT. 3289 02:18:49,600 --> 02:18:51,160 THERE ARE NO -- I WAS EVEN 3290 02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:52,640 QUESTIONING YOU GUYS HAVING 3291 02:18:52,640 --> 02:18:56,880 SUBSTANCE ABUSE IN THERE. 3292 02:18:56,880 --> 02:19:00,720 >> OURS EXCLUDES SPECIFIC 3293 02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:01,120 DISEASE. 3294 02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:03,480 IT'S THE ONLY DISEASE IN THERE. 3295 02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:04,280 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: BUT THE 3296 02:19:04,280 --> 02:19:05,560 MAIN THING THERE IS THAT SMOKING 3297 02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:08,400 AND ALCOHOL, RIGHT. 3298 02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:11,560 IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE PLACES 3299 02:19:11,560 --> 02:19:15,120 WHERE DISEASE PREVENTION, THE 3300 02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:16,320 FACTORS MISSING ON EVERY SINGLE 3301 02:19:16,320 --> 02:19:18,320 WEBSITE IS NUTRITION, PHYSICAL 3302 02:19:18,320 --> 02:19:20,160 ACTIVITY, SMOKING AND ALCOHOL. 3303 02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:24,880 I MEAN, THAT'S SO CENTRAL, 3304 02:19:24,880 --> 02:19:27,520 RIGHT, FOR WHAT PREDICTS. 3305 02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:29,040 >> I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS 3306 02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:30,720 ANOTHER CATEGORY CALLED 3307 02:19:30,720 --> 02:19:33,280 LIFESTYLE CHOICE OR BEHAVIOR 3308 02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:35,840 BECAUSE IT CAN RAISE A DIFFERENT 3309 02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:37,400 MESSAGE AND RICK IS RAISING AND 3310 02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:41,160 WHEN YOU START, CONSTITUTING THE 3311 02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:47,360 EQUATION ABOUT THE WHOLE PERSON 3312 02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:48,120 THAT IMPINGE ON THAT WHOLE 3313 02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:53,520 PERSON WELLBEING AND IT BECOMES 3314 02:19:53,520 --> 02:20:05,960 ANEN LESS AND THERE'S SOME THEY 3315 02:20:05,960 --> 02:20:07,240 ENTER INTO THE ENGAGEMENT WITH 3316 02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:08,000 THE MODEL. 3317 02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:11,480 IT'S A GREAT POINT AND WE MADE 3318 02:20:11,480 --> 02:20:13,280 AN INTENTIONAL CHOICE NOT TO GO 3319 02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:15,760 WITH THE DISEASES AS PART OF THE 3320 02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:17,000 MODEL BUT I DON'T IF IT'S RIGHT 3321 02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:22,400 FOR YOU GUYS EITHER. 3322 02:20:22,400 --> 02:20:23,520 >> I HAVE HELEN AND LYNN. 3323 02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:26,840 >> ON THE POINT, WHAT INCLUDES 3324 02:20:26,840 --> 02:20:29,360 SUBSTANCE USE RATHER THAN ABUSE 3325 02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:31,800 BECAUSE YOU ARE FOR GETTING, 3326 02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:33,240 THIS SMOKING AND ALCOHOL IS ALL 3327 02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:35,560 IN THE TASK BUT STILL FACTORS 3328 02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:38,000 BUT WE HAVE PSYCHEDELICS, 3329 02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:41,800 CANNABIS, CBD ON THE STREET AND 3330 02:20:41,800 --> 02:20:44,480 EVERYONE IS USING THEM AND WE 3331 02:20:44,480 --> 02:20:45,920 KNOW THEY'RE LEGAL WHAT THEY DO 3332 02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:48,440 FOR A WHOLE PERSON HEALTH, YOU 3333 02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:48,640 KNOW. 3334 02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:51,720 AND IT'S USING DIS CRIMINAL 3335 02:20:51,720 --> 02:20:53,440 ANTLY EVEN IN THE STORES. 3336 02:20:53,440 --> 02:20:56,880 YOU BUY CBD IN SIMILAR BOTTLES 3337 02:20:56,880 --> 02:20:58,480 FOR SLEEP AND ANXIETY AND PAIN 3338 02:20:58,480 --> 02:21:02,440 SO IT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED. 3339 02:21:02,440 --> 02:21:06,200 ALSO, THE LIFESTYLE SORT OF 3340 02:21:06,200 --> 02:21:08,880 FACTOR THAT IS A FACTOR FOR 3341 02:21:08,880 --> 02:21:12,480 MULTIPLE DISEASES IS LONELINESS 3342 02:21:12,480 --> 02:21:14,000 AND SOCIAL SUPPORT AND BECAUSE 3343 02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:16,800 I'M ON THE AREA OF AGING, ALL OF 3344 02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:18,920 THE CHRONIC CONDITIONS LEAD TO 3345 02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:20,520 PREMATURE ACCELERATED AGING AND 3346 02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:23,280 IT PROVIDES US WITH VERY 3347 02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:25,120 RELIABLE RELATIVE RELIABLE 3348 02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:26,480 BIOMARKERS OF HOW THINGS ARE 3349 02:21:26,480 --> 02:21:29,640 MOVING ALONG AND OUR 3350 02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:29,960 INTERVENTIONS. 3351 02:21:29,960 --> 02:21:31,320 AND THEY ARE GETTING EASIER AND 3352 02:21:31,320 --> 02:21:36,920 EASIER TO MEASURE LIKE DNA AND 3353 02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:38,600 SO FOURTH AND ALZHEIMER'S 3354 02:21:38,600 --> 02:21:43,440 PREDICTORS GETTING VERY USER 3355 02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:45,320 FRIENDLY IN TERMS OF PRETRIAL 3356 02:21:45,320 --> 02:21:49,760 BIOMARKERS SO I COULD ADVOCATE 3357 02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:50,040 FOR THAT. 3358 02:21:50,040 --> 02:21:51,160 >> THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE 3359 02:21:51,160 --> 02:21:52,200 SOCIAL CONTEXT, RIGHT? 3360 02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:56,960 >> AGING, NO, IT'S A BIOLOGICAL 3361 02:21:56,960 --> 02:21:57,680 PROCESS AND SO -- 3362 02:21:57,680 --> 02:21:59,920 >> I THOUGHT YOU TALKED ABOUT 3363 02:21:59,920 --> 02:22:00,240 LONELINESS. 3364 02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:04,880 >> WELL, IF YOU D DON'T WANT TO 3365 02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:05,920 MEASURE DISEASE ASK ABOUT 3366 02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:06,240 LONELINESS. 3367 02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:08,520 >> IT COULD BE ONE OF THE 3368 02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:08,760 QUESTIONS. 3369 02:22:08,760 --> 02:22:09,520 >> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. 3370 02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:11,240 >> IT WOULD BE FOLDED UNDER. 3371 02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:12,800 >> SOCIAL SUPPORT, I DON'T KNOW. 3372 02:22:12,800 --> 02:22:15,080 >> YEAH, YEAH. 3373 02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:18,800 >> THANK YOU. 3374 02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:19,000 NADIA. 3375 02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:22,040 >> YEAH, SO, THANK YOU FOR 3376 02:22:22,040 --> 02:22:23,720 REALLY INTERESTING PRESENTATION. 3377 02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:26,400 IT'S NICE TO SEE THE COMING FULL 3378 02:22:26,400 --> 02:22:28,320 CIRCLE FROM THE CALL FOR PEOPLE 3379 02:22:28,320 --> 02:22:30,200 TO SUBMIT THEIR IDEAS ABOUT WHAT 3380 02:22:30,200 --> 02:22:31,680 FACTORS WE COULD LOOK AT TO SEE 3381 02:22:31,680 --> 02:22:33,000 WHAT THE DATA LOOK LIKE ON THAT 3382 02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:35,920 AND SEE THE OVERLAP WITH OTHER 3383 02:22:35,920 --> 02:22:37,200 GROUPS THAT ARE THINKING ABOUT 3384 02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:38,600 SIMILAR THINGS, VERY NICELY 3385 02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:40,840 PRESENTED AND REALLY 3386 02:22:40,840 --> 02:22:41,720 INTERESTING. 3387 02:22:41,720 --> 02:22:42,560 I WONDERED, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU 3388 02:22:42,560 --> 02:22:45,720 ARE SORT OF ON A PROGRESSION 3389 02:22:45,720 --> 02:22:47,800 FROM CHOOSING WHAT ARE THE 3390 02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:49,280 INDICATORS OF WHOLE-PERSON 3391 02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:51,920 HEALTH TO FINDING WAYS TO 3392 02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:53,280 MEASURE THOSE INDICATORS AND 3393 02:22:53,280 --> 02:22:55,520 PART OF THAT MEASUREMENT 3394 02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:56,720 PRESUMABLY WILL BE BEHAVIORAL 3395 02:22:56,720 --> 02:22:59,880 BUT I WONDER IF THERE'S ALSO AN 3396 02:22:59,880 --> 02:23:01,840 INTEREST IN MOLECULAR MEASURES 3397 02:23:01,840 --> 02:23:05,320 AS WELL AND I GUESS THE ACTUALLY 3398 02:23:05,320 --> 02:23:08,040 THE COMMENT WE JUST HEARD A 3399 02:23:08,040 --> 02:23:16,160 MOMENT AGO MENTIONED DMA METH 3400 02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:17,400 METHYLATION AND I WONDER THE 3401 02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:18,720 PROGRESSION OF DEVELOPING THIS 3402 02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:20,480 SORT OF WHOLE-PERSON HEALTH 3403 02:23:20,480 --> 02:23:21,920 INITIATIVE IS THINKING ABOUT 3404 02:23:21,920 --> 02:23:23,520 WHAT THE BEST MOLECULAR MEASURES 3405 02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:25,760 ARE AND TRYING TO BRIDGE THE BIO 3406 02:23:25,760 --> 02:23:31,760 MEMBER CAL WITBIOCHEMICAL. 3407 02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:33,200 >> THE LIST OF MEASUREMENTS ON 3408 02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:35,800 THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE THE TABLE, 3409 02:23:35,800 --> 02:23:37,920 THEY DID ENCLOUD -- WELL, THE 3410 02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:39,240 SIMPLE ONES, RIGHT. 3411 02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:46,240 THE LIPIDS AND THE HEMOGLOBIN 3412 02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:51,040 AND YOU CAN HAVE MICROBIOME AND 3413 02:23:51,040 --> 02:23:52,640 YOU CAN ADD TO THAT FOR SURE. 3414 02:23:52,640 --> 02:23:54,040 THE ONES THAT WERE INCLUDED HERE 3415 02:23:54,040 --> 02:24:00,320 WERE THE ONES THAT ARE EASILY 3416 02:24:00,320 --> 02:24:03,680 ATTAINABLE AND WE BASED 3417 02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:08,040 OURSELVES ON THAT LIST OF THE 3418 02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:08,280 AGING. 3419 02:24:08,280 --> 02:24:13,120 IT WAS IN THERE IN FACT IT WAS 3420 02:24:13,120 --> 02:24:14,920 ONE OF THE MAIN MEASUREMENTS 3421 02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:16,920 THAT WERE HIGHLY CORRELATED WITH 3422 02:24:16,920 --> 02:24:21,960 THE PAYS O PACE OF AGING. 3423 02:24:21,960 --> 02:24:23,840 WE SHOULD BUILD THAT AND AS THE 3424 02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:26,120 SCIENCE DEVELOPS AND THEN MORE 3425 02:24:26,120 --> 02:24:32,840 MEASUREMENTS COULD BE ADDED FOR 3426 02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:33,040 SURE. 3427 02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:37,040 >> LOVE, LOVE, LOVE WHOLE PERSON 3428 02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:44,000 HEALTH AND I'M SO EXCITED. 3429 02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:48,080 BEING A POSTDOC IS JUST SUPER 3430 02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:51,920 EXCITING AND MY COMMENT IS BACK 3431 02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:55,320 TO PAIN AND I'M TALKING FROM OUR 3432 02:24:55,320 --> 02:25:13,800 CLINICAL AND LENS RIGHT NOW AND 3433 02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:16,120 WE'RE RECORDING IT AS 3434 02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:16,600 CLINICIANS. 3435 02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:19,280 MAYBE A -- IT IMPACTS A LOT OF 3436 02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:19,520 THINGS. 3437 02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:23,240 IT DEFINITELY IMPACTS WELLBEING 3438 02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:25,320 AND MAYBE A BETTER PAIN SCALE 3439 02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:27,120 BUT MAYBE LOOKING AT WHAT IS 3440 02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:30,320 ALREADY EXISTING ON THAT CRAPPY 3441 02:25:30,320 --> 02:25:33,520 1-10 SCALE AND SEEING HOW THAT 3442 02:25:33,520 --> 02:25:34,680 CORRELATES WITH THE WELLBEING 3443 02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:37,240 SCALE OR WELLBEING SCALES THAT 3444 02:25:37,240 --> 02:25:40,560 ARE BEING KIND OF PILOTED RIGHT 3445 02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:43,520 NOW AND THAT'S MY TWO CENTS 3446 02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:43,800 RIGHT NOW. 3447 02:25:43,800 --> 02:25:46,640 >> VERY SOPHISTICATED PAIN 3448 02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:48,440 MEASURES AND I THINK IF WE'RE 3449 02:25:48,440 --> 02:25:50,520 GOING TO PUT PAIN IN THERE, 3450 02:25:50,520 --> 02:25:52,160 WE'LL HAVE GOOD WAYS TO ASSESS 3451 02:25:52,160 --> 02:25:52,840 IT. 3452 02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:54,640 THE IMPACT, FOR EXAMPLE, OF PAIN 3453 02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:57,720 ON PEOPLE'S LIVES, THAT'S REALLY 3454 02:25:57,720 --> 02:25:58,120 IMPORTANT, RIGHT. 3455 02:25:58,120 --> 02:25:59,400 >> I WAS THINKING ALSO, BECAUSE 3456 02:25:59,400 --> 02:26:01,040 THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY 3457 02:26:01,040 --> 02:26:03,600 YOU WANT TO TRANSLATE THIS INTO 3458 02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:06,360 CLINICAL PRACTICE AND SO YOU 3459 02:26:06,360 --> 02:26:08,840 KNOW, WHATEVER SCALE GETS INTO 3460 02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:10,720 CLINICAL PRACTICE SO RIGHT NOW, 3461 02:26:10,720 --> 02:26:12,520 RIGHT, THE PAIN SCALE IS 1-10 3462 02:26:12,520 --> 02:26:14,680 SCALE THAT WE ALL USE AND IT'S 3463 02:26:14,680 --> 02:26:18,320 RECORDED AS PART OF THE INVITE 3464 02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:20,680 ALS SO THINKING ABOUT THE 3465 02:26:20,680 --> 02:26:21,440 TRANSLATION OF THESE SCALES AND 3466 02:26:21,440 --> 02:26:23,280 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CLINICIANS 3467 02:26:23,280 --> 02:26:27,440 JUST HAVE A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF 3468 02:26:27,440 --> 02:26:27,720 TIME. 3469 02:26:27,720 --> 02:26:30,400 >> WE'RE DOING RESEARCH, THIS IS 3470 02:26:30,400 --> 02:26:30,920 RIGHT NOW FOR RESEARCH. 3471 02:26:30,920 --> 02:26:33,240 >> YES, I UNDERSTAND. 3472 02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:40,720 >> EVENTUALLY, YOU COULD ADOPT 3473 02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:42,280 IT BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING 3474 02:26:42,280 --> 02:26:42,520 RESEARCH. 3475 02:26:42,520 --> 02:26:43,640 THIS IS GEARED TOWARDS -- IT. 3476 02:26:43,640 --> 02:26:44,840 >> NO, I UNDERSTAND. 3477 02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:46,440 I'M JUST SORT OF THINKING AHEAD 3478 02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:49,840 INTO TRANSLATION AND ALSO 3479 02:26:49,840 --> 02:26:51,560 THINKING ABOUT JUST PAIN SCALES 3480 02:26:51,560 --> 02:26:54,720 IN GENERAL AND PAIN ALSO REALLY 3481 02:26:54,720 --> 02:26:56,320 IMPACTING WHAT HAPPENS WITH 3482 02:26:56,320 --> 02:26:57,320 PEOPLE'S WELLBEING. 3483 02:26:57,320 --> 02:26:57,960 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 3484 02:26:57,960 --> 02:27:00,080 >> SO, YEAH. 3485 02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,240 SO WE DEFINITELY WOULD WANT TO 3486 02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:07,040 USE PAIN MEASURES THAT ARE DOING 3487 02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:08,360 WITH THE NOT JUST HOW MUCH PAIN 3488 02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:10,000 PEOPLE ARE HAVING IN THE MOMENT 3489 02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:14,960 BUT HOW IS PAIN EFFECTING THEIR 3490 02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:17,920 FUNCTIONING AND THEIR LIFE. 3491 02:27:17,920 --> 02:27:21,640 I THINK IT'S REALLY IT. 3492 02:27:21,640 --> 02:27:22,600 DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? 3493 02:27:22,600 --> 02:27:23,560 >> YES. 3494 02:27:23,560 --> 02:27:24,120 IT MAKES SENSE. 3495 02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:25,440 >> YEAH, YEAH. 3496 02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:27,920 >> JUSTIN. 3497 02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:30,280 >> WELL, WONDERFUL PRESENTATION 3498 02:27:30,280 --> 02:27:33,520 AND I MEAN, THE COMPLEXITY AND 3499 02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:35,760 NUMBER OF DIMENSIONS THAT YOU 3500 02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:37,640 ALL ARE THINKING OF NEEDS TO BE 3501 02:27:37,640 --> 02:27:38,240 COM PENDED. 3502 02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:40,840 WHOLE PERSON HEALTH IS COMPLEX 3503 02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:44,120 AND TO THINK ACROSS FROM 3504 02:27:44,120 --> 02:27:46,320 BEHAVIORS TO OUTCOMES TO 3505 02:27:46,320 --> 02:27:51,720 MOLECULAR MARKERS, THAT MAYBE 3506 02:27:51,720 --> 02:27:54,080 MECHANISTIC IT'S A HUGE SOUP TO 3507 02:27:54,080 --> 02:27:56,040 TRY TO DECON INVOLVE AND CREATE 3508 02:27:56,040 --> 02:27:57,000 SOMETHING ORDERED AND YOU KNOW, 3509 02:27:57,000 --> 02:27:59,880 I THINK BACK TO THE ORGY MALES 3510 02:27:59,880 --> 02:28:02,880 THAT WERE REQUESTED PUTTING AND 3511 02:28:02,880 --> 02:28:08,480 THE WORDINGS WAS SOMETHING LIKE 3512 02:28:08,480 --> 02:28:42,040 COMMON DATA AND THEY MAY BE 3513 02:28:42,040 --> 02:28:44,080 BETTER CLOCKS THAN WHAT YOU WERE 3514 02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:46,120 MENTIONING EARLIER AND CERTAINLY 3515 02:28:46,120 --> 02:28:47,640 IMMUNE HEALTH IS THIS WAY. 3516 02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:49,400 THERE'S RAPIDLY EVOLVING FIELD 3517 02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:52,480 AND WE'RE NOT AT AN APP TA 3518 02:28:52,480 --> 02:28:54,040 HIGHED SPOT BUT WE'LL MOVE THERE 3519 02:28:54,040 --> 02:28:57,880 SO I'M CURIOUS WHETHER YOU THINK 3520 02:28:57,880 --> 02:29:01,200 ABOUT USING DESCRIPTIONS THAT 3521 02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:03,440 ARE SO VAGUE THAT WOULD ENABLE 3522 02:29:03,440 --> 02:29:08,000 SOME SORT OF FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT 3523 02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:10,720 INVESTIGATORS ARE DOING OR 3524 02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:11,800 WHETHER THERE WILL BE A SPECIFIC 3525 02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:13,320 LIST OF MARKERS AND THINGS LIKE 3526 02:29:13,320 --> 02:29:14,720 THAT AND THEN THAT WILL CHANGE 3527 02:29:14,720 --> 02:29:17,920 OVER TIME WITH CERTAIN 3528 02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:19,160 THRESHOLDS OF DATA BEING 3529 02:29:19,160 --> 02:29:20,000 REACHED. 3530 02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:23,200 I'M CURIOUS ON THE CUTTING EDGE. 3531 02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:24,480 >> FOLLOWING THE CONVERSATION 3532 02:29:24,480 --> 02:29:26,520 AND A LOT OF THE OTHER CDE, YOU 3533 02:29:26,520 --> 02:29:27,480 KNOW, EFFORTS BEING DEVELOPED 3534 02:29:27,480 --> 02:29:43,880 AND OTHER PARTS OF THE NIH, AND 3535 02:29:43,880 --> 02:29:45,480 THE MAIN THINGS, MAKE SURE YOU 3536 02:29:45,480 --> 02:29:47,560 ARE NOT MISSING SOMETHING MAJOR 3537 02:29:47,560 --> 02:29:49,640 ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT TO CAPTURE 3538 02:29:49,640 --> 02:29:51,800 WHOLE PERSON, YO YOU WOULDN'T WANT 3539 02:29:51,800 --> 02:29:53,680 TO LEAVE OUT ATTRITION. 3540 02:29:53,680 --> 02:29:57,000 IF YOU HAD A SUPPOSED COMMON 3541 02:29:57,000 --> 02:29:59,560 DATASET, THAT SUPPOSEDLY LOOKS 3542 02:29:59,560 --> 02:30:00,480 AT THE WHO WILL PERSON BUT 3543 02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:01,920 NUTRITION WAS MISSING, THAT 3544 02:30:01,920 --> 02:30:02,760 WOULD BE WRONG. 3545 02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:04,320 NOW, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS 3546 02:30:04,320 --> 02:30:07,880 WHERE IT WOULD BE LESS, YOU 3547 02:30:07,880 --> 02:30:09,160 KNOW, BLATANT, RIGHT, WHERE 3548 02:30:09,160 --> 02:30:11,880 THERE WOULD BE MORE DEBATE. 3549 02:30:11,880 --> 02:30:15,280 WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE MINIMUM 3550 02:30:15,280 --> 02:30:16,360 COMMON DATASET THAT EVERYBODY 3551 02:30:16,360 --> 02:30:17,280 WOULD AGREE ON AND EVERYTHING 3552 02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:20,120 THAT IS IN THERE IS ABSOLUTELY 3553 02:30:20,120 --> 02:30:22,160 SHOULD BE THERE AND THEN YOU CAN 3554 02:30:22,160 --> 02:30:26,000 HAVE THINGS ON THE EDGES OF IT, 3555 02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:26,200 RIGHT. 3556 02:30:26,200 --> 02:30:28,720 THEY ARE ALSO THE ACCESSIBILITY 3557 02:30:28,720 --> 02:30:29,960 OF THE TYPE OF DATA. 3558 02:30:29,960 --> 02:30:32,040 NOT EVERY STUDY WILL HAVE ACCESS 3559 02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:34,880 TO THE WHOLE DATA. 3560 02:30:34,880 --> 02:30:36,720 NOT EVERYBODY IS SCHEDULED TO 3561 02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:40,120 HAVE ACCESS TO HAIR SAMPLES WITH 3562 02:30:40,120 --> 02:30:44,320 TOXIC LEVELS OF THIS OR THAT SO 3563 02:30:44,320 --> 02:30:47,600 IT'S -- IT COULD HAVE LAYERS AS 3564 02:30:47,600 --> 02:30:49,040 NEW SCIENCE COMES IN WE DEVELOP 3565 02:30:49,040 --> 02:30:55,240 A NEW THING, YOU KNOW, THAT 3566 02:30:55,240 --> 02:31:02,080 EXPLAINS THE COURSE OF YOUR OVER 3567 02:31:02,080 --> 02:31:05,120 ALL IT WOULD BE ANNIE INVOLVING 3568 02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:07,880 THING BUT YET IT WOULD PRESERVE 3569 02:31:07,880 --> 02:31:10,320 A STABLE CORE SO THAT YOU CAN 3570 02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:14,720 THEN TRANSLATE ACROSS A LOT OF 3571 02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:16,840 STUDIES WITH THE WHOLE 3572 02:31:16,840 --> 02:31:17,720 INTEROPERABILITY SO IT'S 3573 02:31:17,720 --> 02:31:19,720 IMPORTANT IN THIS FIELD AND SO 3574 02:31:19,720 --> 02:31:21,200 YEAH, THAT'S HOW WE'RE THINKING 3575 02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:21,720 ABOUT IT. 3576 02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:33,360 >> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. 3577 02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:38,440 >> I REALLY WANT TO THANK THIS 3578 02:31:38,440 --> 02:31:38,640 GROUP. 3579 02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:40,000 YOU HAVE BEEN SO GREAT IN 3580 02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:41,840 HELPING SHEPHERD THIS WHOLE 3581 02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:42,960 CONCEPT OF WHOLE-PERSON HEALTH 3582 02:31:42,960 --> 02:31:45,480 FROM THE BEGINNING. 3583 02:31:45,480 --> 02:31:46,920 I MEAN, NOT ALL OF WERE YOU 3584 02:31:46,920 --> 02:31:49,440 THERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING BUT 3585 02:31:49,440 --> 02:31:54,840 AMOUNT OF YOU WERE, RIGHT. 3586 02:31:54,840 --> 02:31:58,360 AND SO HOW WE STARTED WITH AN 3587 02:31:58,360 --> 02:32:02,040 IDEA THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OUT 3588 02:32:02,040 --> 02:32:04,480 THERE AND SUPPORTED BY -- A 3589 02:32:04,480 --> 02:32:06,480 LITTLE BIT OUT THERE FOR NIH. 3590 02:32:06,480 --> 02:32:08,360 BUT WAS SUPPORTED BY A LOT OF 3591 02:32:08,360 --> 02:32:12,720 THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON THAT 3592 02:32:12,720 --> 02:32:17,200 INCLUDED IN A LOT OF PLACES THAT 3593 02:32:17,200 --> 02:32:21,400 AND THEN NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE 3594 02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:23,240 CAN VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO IT 3595 02:32:23,240 --> 02:32:24,680 SO REMEMBER THAT CIRCLE WE 3596 02:32:24,680 --> 02:32:26,160 STARTED WITH A STAKEHOLDERS AND 3597 02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:28,120 WE WENT TO THE METHODS AND NOW 3598 02:32:28,120 --> 02:32:29,640 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DATA AND 3599 02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:34,560 THEN THE NEXT STEP IS GOING TO 3600 02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:34,720 BE. 3601 02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:37,560 THE NEXT STEP AFTER THIS IS 3602 02:32:37,560 --> 02:32:38,080 THIS. 3603 02:32:38,080 --> 02:32:39,720 THEN WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND THIS 3604 02:32:39,720 --> 02:32:41,360 IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT TASK, 3605 02:32:41,360 --> 02:32:44,640 DEVELOP WAYS TO ANALYZE OUR 3606 02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:46,880 PORTFOLIO AND BASED ON THIS 3607 02:32:46,880 --> 02:32:50,080 FRAMEWORK AND THAT IS GOING TO 3608 02:32:50,080 --> 02:32:54,320 BE CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE TALKED 3609 02:32:54,320 --> 02:32:56,120 ABOUT TERMS THAT ARE SEARCHABLE 3610 02:32:56,120 --> 02:32:58,240 AND THIS IS WITH OR OFFICE OF 3611 02:32:58,240 --> 02:32:59,480 POLICY PLANNING AND EVALUATION 3612 02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:00,920 HAS BEEN HELPFUL IN WORKING WITH 3613 02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:02,520 US AND KEEPING REMINDING US THAT 3614 02:33:02,520 --> 02:33:08,120 WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE 3615 02:33:08,120 --> 02:33:10,000 USING TERMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE 3616 02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:10,960 ABLE TO FORECAST OUT. 3617 02:33:10,960 --> 02:33:17,720 ARE WE FUNDING THIS RESEARCH AND 3618 02:33:17,720 --> 02:33:21,760 SO THIS IS NOT EASY. 3619 02:33:21,760 --> 02:33:23,000 SO, WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP WAYS 3620 02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:26,920 TO DO A PORTFOLIO ANALYSIS THAT 3621 02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:28,120 WILL REFLECT HOW INTEGRATED OF 3622 02:33:28,120 --> 02:33:31,920 THE RESEARCH IS AND YOU HAVE 3623 02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:32,520 ALREADY STARTED DABBLING INTO 3624 02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:33,440 THIS BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK 3625 02:33:33,440 --> 02:33:35,280 TO DO IN THIS AREA. 3626 02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:37,920 AND FINALLY, DEVELOP, WHICH WE 3627 02:33:37,920 --> 02:33:40,120 STARTED DOING, DEVELOP TARGETED 3628 02:33:40,120 --> 02:33:41,760 FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE 3629 02:33:41,760 --> 02:33:44,360 GOING TO UTILIZE THIS FRAMEWORK, 3630 02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:48,200 YOU KNOW, AS A BASIS. 3631 02:33:48,200 --> 02:33:51,920 DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS 3632 02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:52,120 AREA? 3633 02:33:52,120 --> 02:33:56,080 WE'VE DONE ALREADY SO MUCH IN 3634 02:33:56,080 --> 02:33:56,920 OUR NEXT MOVE. 3635 02:33:56,920 --> 02:33:59,280 >> NO, I WOULD JUST SAY IT'S 3636 02:33:59,280 --> 02:34:01,640 WONDERFUL TO SEE IT ALL COMING 3637 02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:03,440 TOGETHER AND HOW YOU KNOW, WE 3638 02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:05,320 ARE ALREADY REALIZING THAT A LOT 3639 02:34:05,320 --> 02:34:08,040 OF THE RESEARCH THAT IS OUT 3640 02:34:08,040 --> 02:34:10,520 THERE, NOT ONLY NCCIH BUT THE 3641 02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:12,880 OTHERS AS WELL HAVE ELEMENTS OF 3642 02:34:12,880 --> 02:34:15,440 THIS FRAMEWORK THAT THEY PERHAPS 3643 02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:17,120 ARE NOT EVEN APPRECIATING AND 3644 02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:18,720 IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT TO SEE 3645 02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:22,200 THIS PORTFOLIO ANALYSIS. 3646 02:34:22,200 --> 02:34:23,160 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: EXACTLY. 3647 02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:24,320 TO SEE WHAT ALL THE OTHER 3648 02:34:24,320 --> 02:34:25,640 INSTITUTES AND CENTERS ARE 3649 02:34:25,640 --> 02:34:26,120 DOING. 3650 02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:26,920 THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE. 3651 02:34:26,920 --> 02:34:28,120 WE KNOW THIS FOR SURE. 3652 02:34:28,120 --> 02:34:33,360 WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT AT OUR 3653 02:34:33,360 --> 02:34:35,080 WORKSHOP. 3654 02:34:35,080 --> 02:34:36,800 >> FANTASTIC JOB. 3655 02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:40,120 FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, A LOT OF 3656 02:34:40,120 --> 02:34:43,920 US SAY WHAT ABOUT SLOPE. 3657 02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:44,240 SLEEP. 3658 02:34:44,240 --> 02:34:46,240 SLEEP IS SO WELL REPRESENTED. 3659 02:34:46,240 --> 02:34:47,400 FANTASTIC DAY, THANK YOU SO 3660 02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:47,600 MUCH. 3661 02:34:47,600 --> 02:34:48,880 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: YOU ARE 3662 02:34:48,880 --> 02:34:49,600 VERY WELCOME. 3663 02:34:49,600 --> 02:34:53,720 WE WERE SURPRISED HOW MANY TIME 3664 02:34:53,720 --> 02:34:54,560 SLEEPS WAS NOT PART OF THE 3665 02:34:54,560 --> 02:34:56,480 PICTURE IN A LOT OF THE THINGS 3666 02:34:56,480 --> 02:35:00,640 WE SAW AND SLEEP AND STRESS. 3667 02:35:00,640 --> 02:35:05,960 I THINK THIS IS WHERE MY HUNCH 3668 02:35:05,960 --> 02:35:06,880 STRESS, STRESS MANAGEMENT AND 3669 02:35:06,880 --> 02:35:09,840 SLEEP ARE GOING TO BE THE 3670 02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:11,200 MISSING INGREDIENTS THAT WILL BE 3671 02:35:11,200 --> 02:35:14,680 THE KEY TO UNLOCKING SO MANY OF 3672 02:35:14,680 --> 02:35:17,840 THE BEHAVIOR CHANGES THAT WE ARE 3673 02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:20,120 SEEKING AND NOT ACHIEVING A LOT 3674 02:35:20,120 --> 02:35:22,120 AT TIMES IN A LOT OF STUDIES FOR 3675 02:35:22,120 --> 02:35:23,920 EXAMPLE WHERE THEY ADAPT, FOR 3676 02:35:23,920 --> 02:35:25,240 EXAMPLE NUTRITIONAL 3677 02:35:25,240 --> 02:35:26,440 INTERVENTION, IF YOU DON'T 3678 02:35:26,440 --> 02:35:27,280 MANAGE STRESS AT THE SAME TIME, 3679 02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:30,920 HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO DO THEIR -- IF THE Y CAN'T SLEEP, 3680 02:35:30,920 --> 02:35:32,880 HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO 3681 02:35:32,880 --> 02:35:35,320 HAVE THE ENERGY TO COOK A 3682 02:35:35,320 --> 02:35:36,120 HEALTHY MEAL? 3683 02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:37,600 HOW ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THE 3684 02:35:37,600 --> 02:35:39,360 ENERGY TO GO FOR A WALK? 3685 02:35:39,360 --> 02:35:40,560 IF THEY'RE EXHAUSTED BECAUSE 3686 02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:42,240 THEY'RE SO STRESSED OUT AND THEY 3687 02:35:42,240 --> 02:35:45,480 CAN'T SLEEP. 3688 02:35:45,480 --> 02:35:50,640 THIS IS A KEY THING AND I 3689 02:35:50,640 --> 02:35:51,360 TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. 3690 02:35:51,360 --> 02:35:53,960 >> ON THIS, JUST A COMMENT. 3691 02:35:53,960 --> 02:35:56,040 I WAS JUST A PART OF THE 3692 02:35:56,040 --> 02:35:59,040 AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION NEW 3693 02:35:59,040 --> 02:36:01,920 GUIDELINES DEVELOPMENT FOR HEART 3694 02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:04,080 HEALTH AND FOR THE FIRST TIME 3695 02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:05,120 THEY INCLUDED SLEEP AND THAT HAS 3696 02:36:05,120 --> 02:36:08,880 TO DO WITH THE CLEAR 3697 02:36:08,880 --> 02:36:12,480 PRESCRIPTION OF SEVEN TO NINE 3698 02:36:12,480 --> 02:36:23,520 HOURS THAT WAS INCLUDED NED A 3699 02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:25,320 HARD TIME WITH EXPRESS SIMPLY 3700 02:36:25,320 --> 02:36:27,040 BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A NUMBER OF 3701 02:36:27,040 --> 02:36:29,080 HOW MUCH STRESS ONE CAN OR 3702 02:36:29,080 --> 02:36:32,800 SHOULD ENDURE AND THEY INCLUDED 3703 02:36:32,800 --> 02:36:36,600 MINDFULNESS TO MY DELIGHT AS A 3704 02:36:36,600 --> 02:36:38,160 RECOMMENDATION FOR AN OFF SIT SO 3705 02:36:38,160 --> 02:36:42,360 POSITIVE EMOTIONS. 3706 02:36:42,360 --> 02:36:44,040 SO IT WILL BE INCLUDED. 3707 02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:46,600 THE MENU GRAPHICS HAVE 3708 02:36:46,600 --> 02:36:49,240 RECOMMENDED TECHNIQUES AND NOW 3709 02:36:49,240 --> 02:36:54,960 IT'S CALLED ESSENTIAL EIGHT. 3710 02:36:54,960 --> 02:36:59,840 BEFORE IT WAS SEVEN. 3711 02:36:59,840 --> 02:37:01,120 IF NCCIH COULD CONNECT WITH THIS 3712 02:37:01,120 --> 02:37:03,720 THEME AND MAYBE STIMULATE 3713 02:37:03,720 --> 02:37:04,120 RESEARCH. 3714 02:37:04,120 --> 02:37:06,680 WHAT IS NEEDED IS HOW MUCH. 3715 02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:07,480 THEY NEED DOSING. 3716 02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:08,280 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: THIS IS 3717 02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:09,200 THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION? 3718 02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:10,360 >> YEAH. 3719 02:37:10,360 --> 02:37:11,800 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: FANTASTI 3720 02:37:11,800 --> 02:37:11,920 C. 3721 02:37:11,920 --> 02:37:16,000 WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT. 3722 02:37:16,000 --> 02:37:16,480 THAT'S GREAT. 3723 02:37:16,480 --> 02:37:16,920 THANK YOU. 3724 02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:18,240 THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF 3725 02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:20,920 THING THAW WANT TO MAKE SURE 3726 02:37:20,920 --> 02:37:26,720 THAT WE PLUG INTO ALL OF THESE 3727 02:37:26,720 --> 02:37:32,120 VERY, VERY -- VERY IMPORTANT AND 3728 02:37:32,120 --> 02:37:33,800 VERY SYNERGISTIC EFFORTS. 3729 02:37:33,800 --> 02:37:36,600 HOW ARE WE DOING FOR TIME HERE? 3730 02:37:36,600 --> 02:37:41,720 >> WE STILL HAVE TIME. 3731 02:37:41,720 --> 02:37:41,920 RICK -- 3732 02:37:41,920 --> 02:37:44,840 >> SO, I'M THINKING MORE ABOUT 3733 02:37:44,840 --> 02:37:49,520 THIS AND I THINK THAT IF ANALOGY 3734 02:37:49,520 --> 02:37:51,960 OF IT LIKE BEING WHOLE PERSON 3735 02:37:51,960 --> 02:37:54,440 HEALTH IS WHAT GETS THE CAR 3736 02:37:54,440 --> 02:37:55,960 GOING AND KEEPS IT ON THE ROAD 3737 02:37:55,960 --> 02:37:58,160 AND YOU'VE GOT A DRIVER, GAS, 3738 02:37:58,160 --> 02:37:59,200 TIRES AND A CAR AND THESE ARE 3739 02:37:59,200 --> 02:38:00,960 ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED FOR 3740 02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:03,320 YOUR BODY TO GO FROM POINT A TO 3741 02:38:03,320 --> 02:38:03,960 POINT B. 3742 02:38:03,960 --> 02:38:06,120 WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE ALL 3743 02:38:06,120 --> 02:38:08,040 SORTS OF DISORDERS OR DISASTERS 3744 02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:09,920 THAT CAN PREVENT YOU FROM GOING 3745 02:38:09,920 --> 02:38:12,800 FROM POINT A TO POINT B ONTO THE 3746 02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:13,760 WAY TO WHOLE HEALTH AND THOSE 3747 02:38:13,760 --> 02:38:16,160 ARE THE DISEASES THAT CAN COME 3748 02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:18,920 IN AND THAT CAN INCREMENTALLY 3749 02:38:18,920 --> 02:38:22,320 TAKE OUT DIFFERENT PIECES OF 3750 02:38:22,320 --> 02:38:25,720 WHAT IS SUPPORTING YOUR WHOLE 3751 02:38:25,720 --> 02:38:25,960 HEALTH. 3752 02:38:25,960 --> 02:38:27,520 I'M JUST THINKING, I GUESS YOU 3753 02:38:27,520 --> 02:38:28,720 ARE THINKING THIS AS WELL, THAT 3754 02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:30,160 THIS WOULD BE INTEGRATED IN THE 3755 02:38:30,160 --> 02:38:34,800 OTHER INSTITUTES AS, FOR 3756 02:38:34,800 --> 02:38:37,240 EXAMPLE, THEY WOULD BE THINKING 3757 02:38:37,240 --> 02:38:38,720 OF RUM LOGICAL CONDITIONS THAT 3758 02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:42,200 CAN IMPACT THINGS LIKE EXERCISE, 3759 02:38:42,200 --> 02:38:43,920 ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT CAN 3760 02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:46,760 GO INTO WHOLE HEALTH. 3761 02:38:46,760 --> 02:38:49,440 SO, I THINK IT CAN BE INTEGRATED 3762 02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:49,960 WELL. 3763 02:38:49,960 --> 02:38:50,680 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: YEAH, 3764 02:38:50,680 --> 02:38:50,880 YEAH. 3765 02:38:50,880 --> 02:38:55,080 AND AS YOU SAID, A LOT OF THESE 3766 02:38:55,080 --> 02:38:56,760 DISEASES HAVE A PATH, RIGHT. 3767 02:38:56,760 --> 02:39:01,000 A LOT OF THEM START WITH A PHASE 3768 02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:05,480 WHERE THINGS ARE STARTING TO GET 3769 02:39:05,480 --> 02:39:06,080 OFF A KILTER. 3770 02:39:06,080 --> 02:39:11,640 A LOT OF TIMES, EVEN FOR RUM A 3771 02:39:11,640 --> 02:39:13,280 LOGICAL DISEASES YOU SEE RATES 3772 02:39:13,280 --> 02:39:14,280 STARTING TO FLUCTUATE UP AND 3773 02:39:14,280 --> 02:39:17,320 DOWN AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE A 3774 02:39:17,320 --> 02:39:18,920 CLEAR DIAGNOSIS OFF THE START 3775 02:39:18,920 --> 02:39:20,800 BUT YOU MAY HAVE A PHASE. 3776 02:39:20,800 --> 02:39:22,120 THE SAME THING WITH A LOT OF THE 3777 02:39:22,120 --> 02:39:24,120 OTHER CHRONIC DISEASES FOR 3778 02:39:24,120 --> 02:39:28,560 HYPERTENSION, DIABETES, FOR 3779 02:39:28,560 --> 02:39:29,400 OSTEO ARTHRITIS. 3780 02:39:29,400 --> 02:39:31,320 IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL OF A 3781 02:39:31,320 --> 02:39:32,800 SUDDEN YOU HAVE A DISEASE. 3782 02:39:32,800 --> 02:39:36,000 SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER 3783 02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:36,840 THAT DIAGRAM OF THE PLANTS WHERE 3784 02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:38,720 YOU HAVE A HEALTHY PLANT AND YOU 3785 02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:39,880 HAVE THE REALLY SICK PLANT AND 3786 02:39:39,880 --> 02:39:43,200 IN THE MIDDLE YOU HAVE A PLANT 3787 02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:45,120 THAT LOOKS LIKE IT. 3788 02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:47,360 SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVENE 3789 02:39:47,360 --> 02:39:51,520 WITH LIFESTYLE INTERVENTIONS IS 3790 02:39:51,520 --> 02:39:51,720 THERE. 3791 02:39:51,720 --> 02:39:53,880 I MEAN, THERE'S THE PRIMARY 3792 02:39:53,880 --> 02:39:56,040 PREVENTION, OF COURSE, SCHOOLS, 3793 02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:58,440 KIDS, MAKE SURE PRIMARY 3794 02:39:58,440 --> 02:39:59,600 PREVENTION MAKE SURE THEY DID 3795 02:39:59,600 --> 02:40:00,920 GET SICK BUT EVEN WHEN PEOPLE 3796 02:40:00,920 --> 02:40:04,440 START TO GET A LITTLE BIT SICK, 3797 02:40:04,440 --> 02:40:06,320 THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE 3798 02:40:06,320 --> 02:40:08,880 TO INTERVENE BEFORE 3799 02:40:08,880 --> 02:40:10,280 PHARMACOLOGICAL TREATMENTS 3800 02:40:10,280 --> 02:40:11,840 STARTS BECAUSE WHEN THE 3801 02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:12,640 PHARMACOLOGICAL TREATMENTS 3802 02:40:12,640 --> 02:40:15,240 STARTS, THEN THE PHARMACOLOGY 3803 02:40:15,240 --> 02:40:15,920 TAKES OVER. 3804 02:40:15,920 --> 02:40:18,040 IT REALLY TAKES OVER THE 3805 02:40:18,040 --> 02:40:20,560 PHYSIOLOGY AT SOME POINT IT'S 3806 02:40:20,560 --> 02:40:22,280 NECESSARY AND THERE'S A LOT OF 3807 02:40:22,280 --> 02:40:25,200 TIMES A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY 3808 02:40:25,200 --> 02:40:27,160 EARLY WHEN THE BEHAVIORAL 3809 02:40:27,160 --> 02:40:28,960 INTERVENTIONS CAN BE VERY 3810 02:40:28,960 --> 02:40:30,360 IMPACTFUL AND THAT'S WHEN YOU 3811 02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:36,880 REALLY HAVE THE HEALTH 3812 02:40:36,880 --> 02:40:38,720 RESTORATION. 3813 02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:45,400 THERE'S FIX PATHOLOGY OF COURSE 3814 02:40:45,400 --> 02:41:04,240 THEN THE HEINE BETWEEN HEALTH 3815 02:41:04,240 --> 02:41:06,040 AND DISEASE IS A GRAY ZONE HERE 3816 02:41:06,040 --> 02:41:10,280 AND THAT GRAY ZONE WE CAN WORK 3817 02:41:10,280 --> 02:41:28,560 WITH IT. 3818 02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:29,720 IT'S THE ONLY THING WE KNOW HOW 3819 02:41:29,720 --> 02:41:30,960 TO DO. 3820 02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:47,920 >> YEAH. 3821 02:41:47,920 --> 02:41:50,120 >> THIS WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION, 3822 02:41:50,120 --> 02:41:53,080 REALLY WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU 3823 02:41:53,080 --> 02:41:55,080 FOR YOUR GREAT QUESTIONS AND 3824 02:41:55,080 --> 02:41:56,720 INPUT. 3825 02:41:56,720 --> 02:41:58,480 WE'RE GOING TO -- THIS IS ALL 3826 02:41:58,480 --> 02:41:59,560 RECORDED AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE 3827 02:41:59,560 --> 02:42:00,720 ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS AS FAR 3828 02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:02,720 AS WE'RE REALLY GOING TO THINK 3829 02:42:02,720 --> 02:42:04,040 HARD ABOUT THESE COMPONENTS THAT 3830 02:42:04,040 --> 02:42:07,560 WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LESS CLEAR 3831 02:42:07,560 --> 02:42:12,320 LIKE PAIN AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF 3832 02:42:12,320 --> 02:42:15,000 THE SOCIAL AND WE'LL GET BACK TO 3833 02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:17,160 YOU. 3834 02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:17,440 OK. 3835 02:42:17,440 --> 02:42:18,920 SHOULD WE MOVE ONTO THE NECK 3836 02:42:18,920 --> 02:42:19,320 THING PERHAPS? 3837 02:42:19,320 --> 02:42:22,600 >> WELL, WE'RE ACTUALLY AT THE 3838 02:42:22,600 --> 02:42:24,000 LAST THING. 3839 02:42:24,000 --> 02:42:24,640 >> Dr. Helene Langevin: WE'RE 3840 02:42:24,640 --> 02:42:24,840 DONE. 3841 02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:25,800 >> NOT QUITE BUT ALMOST. 3842 02:42:25,800 --> 02:42:28,920 SO, THE LAST THING ON THE AGENDA 3843 02:42:28,920 --> 02:42:32,120 IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND 3844 02:42:32,120 --> 02:42:32,760 AGAIN BECAUSE LIKE WE'VE BEEN 3845 02:42:32,760 --> 02:42:35,000 FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, 3846 02:42:35,000 --> 02:42:37,320 WE'RE NOT DOING THIS MEETING 3847 02:42:37,320 --> 02:42:38,720 IN-PERSON AND IT'S NOT POSSIBLE 3848 02:42:38,720 --> 02:42:40,480 FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND 3849 02:42:40,480 --> 02:42:41,760 MAKE IN-PERSON COMMENTS. 3850 02:42:41,760 --> 02:42:43,680 SO, AS I MENTIONED AT THE 3851 02:42:43,680 --> 02:42:45,200 BEGINNING OF OPEN SESSION, IF 3852 02:42:45,200 --> 02:42:47,200 ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHES 3853 02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:51,320 TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY 3854 02:42:51,320 --> 02:42:52,880 MAY DO SO SEND PARTICULAR IN 3855 02:42:52,880 --> 02:42:59,160 WRITING AND TO ME AND IT HAS TO 3856 02:42:59,160 --> 02:43:06,680 BE SENT WITHIN WE CAN SUBMIT IT 3857 02:43:06,680 --> 02:43:11,120 BY E-MAIL OR HARD COPY 3858 02:43:11,120 --> 02:43:16,200 SNAIL-MAIL AND IT HAS TO BE IN 3859 02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:16,920 WRITING AND THE CONTACT 3860 02:43:16,920 --> 02:43:19,360 INFORMATION FOR ME IS ON THE 3861 02:43:19,360 --> 02:43:21,640 NCCIH WEBSITE AND YOU CAN GET IT 3862 02:43:21,640 --> 02:43:23,600 FROM THERE AND YOU CAN 3863 02:43:23,600 --> 02:43:26,720 ININCLUDEDDING MY E-MAIL AND MY 3864 02:43:26,720 --> 02:43:27,440 SNAIL MALE ADDRESS. 3865 02:43:27,440 --> 02:43:30,440 SO THAT BASICALLY CONCLUDES AND 3866 02:43:30,440 --> 02:43:32,000 OUR AGENDA FOR THE SAME AND LET 3867 02:43:32,000 --> 02:43:34,280 ME JUST CHECK IN WITH Dr. 3868 02:43:34,280 --> 02:43:35,480 EDWARDS ANY FINAL COMMENTS. 3869 02:43:35,480 --> 02:43:37,320 >> NO, NO YOU THANK YOU VERY 3870 02:43:37,320 --> 02:43:37,520 MUCH. 3871 02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:39,760 IT WAS A WONDERFUL DISCUSSION. 3872 02:43:39,760 --> 02:43:41,680 >> THANK YOU,. 3873 02:43:41,680 --> 02:43:43,240 >> I AGREE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 3874 02:43:43,240 --> 02:43:44,720 I THINK THE VALUE OF THIS 3875 02:43:44,720 --> 02:43:45,920 COMMITTEE IS DIVERSITY OF 3876 02:43:45,920 --> 02:43:50,280 OPINIONS AND IDEAS AND IT REALLY 3877 02:43:50,280 --> 02:43:53,000 ENRICHED DISCUSSION AND 3878 02:43:53,000 --> 02:43:53,280 DIALOGUE. 3879 02:43:53,280 --> 02:43:54,680 >> LAST WORDS. 3880 02:43:54,680 --> 02:43:56,320 >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, 3881 02:43:56,320 --> 02:43:58,640 THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US SO 3882 02:43:58,640 --> 02:43:59,920 PRESENT AND A TEN DIFFERENT 3883 02:43:59,920 --> 02:44:04,640 THROUGHOUT THTIVE THROUGHOUTTHE DAY. 3884 02:44:04,640 --> 02:44:05,640 WE'LL SEE YOU IN JANUARY AND 3885 02:44:05,640 --> 02:44:10,160 WHICH TYPE OF MEETING THAT WE 3886 02:44:10,160 --> 02:44:13,280 HAVE, AND HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND. 3887 02:44:13,280 --> 02:44:15,320 >> WITH THAT, I JUST ALSO WANT 3888 02:44:15,320 --> 02:44:16,160 TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF 3889 02:44:16,160 --> 02:44:18,480 THE STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING 3890 02:44:18,480 --> 02:44:20,240 DILIGENTLY BEHIND THE SCENES AND 3891 02:44:20,240 --> 02:44:21,760 YOUR UNSUNG HEROES IN ACTUALLY 3892 02:44:21,760 --> 02:44:24,960 MAKING THE CONFERENCE HAPPEN AND 3893 02:44:24,960 --> 02:44:26,560 SO THANK YOU TO ALL OUR SUPPORT 3894 02:44:26,560 --> 02:44:29,600 STAFF AND OUR I.T. STAFF AND OUR 3895 02:44:29,600 --> 02:44:30,920 EXTRAMURAL SUPPORT ASSISTANCE 3896 02:44:30,920 --> 02:44:32,760 AND COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT STAFF 3897 02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:34,440 AND REALLY ENDEAVORED WORK HARD 3898 02:44:34,440 --> 02:44:37,320 TO MAKE THIS LOOK FLAWLESSLY AND 3899 02:44:37,320 --> 02:44:37,760 EASY. 3900 02:44:37,760 --> 02:44:40,200 >> ONCE AGAIN -- 3901 02:44:40,200 --> 02:44:40,960 >> ONES AGAIN. 3902 02:44:40,960 --> 02:44:42,320 SO THANK YOU, EVERYONE. 3903 02:44:42,320 --> 02:44:44,160 AND WITH THAT WE'LL CONCLUDE 3904 02:44:44,160 --> 02:44:46,400 THIS MEETING OF COUNCIL AND LOOK 3905 02:44:46,400 --> 02:44:48,160 FORWARD TO YOUR ATTENDANCE IN 3906 02:44:48,160 --> 02:44:50,200 THE NEXT MEETING IN JANUARY. 3907 02:44:50,200 --> 00:00:00,000 SO HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.