OKAY, LOOKS WE ARE ON VIDEO
CAST SO I WANT TO SAY GOOD
MORNING TO YOU ALL, EVERYONE
AND WELCOME TO OUR EVENT TODAY
CELEBRATING WOMEN IN SCIENCE.
AND BEFORE I HAND THINGS OVER
TO THE ACTUAL PERSON THAT WILL
WELCOME US, DR. LARRY, I WANT
YOU TO JOIN US IN-PERSON AND
ONLINE FOR WHAT PROMISES TO BE
AN INSPIRING PROGRAM WITH
INCREDIBLE WOMEN IN SCIENCE AND
WE HAVE A STELLAR LINE UP, I'M
GOING TO GO WITH THE PUNS THIS
MORNING.
[LAUGHTER]
FIRST OF ALL WE'RE TRULY OVER
THE MOON TO HAVE DR. KATE
RUBINS WITH US TODAY.
SHE HAS BEEN AN INSPIRATION AND
WE CANNOT WAIT TO HEAR FROM HER.
AND THEN WE WILL TRANSITION TO
A SERIES OF WHAT WE'RE CALL
CAMPFIRE CHATS BUILDING ON THE
THEME OF FIRE CHATS BUT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE
AROUND THE FIRE SO WE'RE
CALLING IT CAMPFIRE CHAT.
THIS WILL INCLUDE MANY OF THE
WOMEN FROM WOMEN AND SCIENCE
DIPLOMACY ASSOCIATION WHO WILL
INTRODUCING AS WE GO THROUGH
THE PROGRAM.
BUT FOR NOW, IT IS MY PLEASURE
TO INTRODUCE DR. LARRY TABAC TO
KICK THINGS OUR.
UNFORTUNATELY OUR DIRECTOR
MONICA BERTAGNOLI WAS ENABLE TO
BE HERE AND FORTUNATE, LARRY
HAS BEEN ABLE TO FILL-IN.
HE IS CURRENTLY THE PRINCIPAL
DIRECTOR OF NIH AND FAMILIAR
FACE TO SO MANY OF US.
AND PRIOR TO THAT SERVICE HE
CAME TO THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE
OF DENTAL CRANIAL INSTITUTE.
I GUESS WE CAN CALL YOU THE
AMERICA'S DENTIST.
THAT STUCK NOW.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AT THE
LAST MINUTE AND WE'RE DELIGHTED
THAT YOU CAN JOIN US.
>> PLEASURE.
[APPLAUSE]
>> WELL THANK YOU, AND GOOD
MORNING, EVERYBODY.
THE TRUTH IS THOSE OF YOU WHO
HAVE BEEN IN NIH FOR MANY YEARS
KNOW THIS, WHENEVER THEY
ANNOUNCE THAT I'M GOING TO DO
ONE OF THESE GREETINGS,
EVERYBODY SHOULDERS SORT OF
SLUMP DOWN BECAUSE THEY KNOW
THE DIRECTOR COULDN'T BE HERE,
OKAY AND SADLY THAT'S THE CASE
TODAY.
MONICA REALLY WANTED TO BE HERE
BUT THE SECRETARY OF HHS CALLED
A MEETING AND THEY HAD TO BE
DOWNTOWN FOR IT OTHERWISE SHE
WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY JOINED.
SO AS MANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT 40
PERCENT OF THE NIH INSTITUTE
AND DIRECTOR ARE WOMEN.
A NUMBER OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY.
I HOPE I WAS ONE OF THE REASONS
YOU ALL CAME IN TERMS OF
RECRUITMENT BUT, AND OBVIOUSLY,
THERE ARE COLLECTIVE
CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SO INTEGRAL
TO ADVANCING THE NIH MISSION IN
HUMAN HEALTH OVERALL.
WE'RE ALSO THRILLED TO INCLUDE
IN THE EVENT TODAY, MEMBERS OF
THE WOMEN IN SCIENCE DIPLOMACY
ASSOCIATION WHO WILL SHARE
THEIR PERSPECTIVES ON THE
GLOBAL IMPACT OF WOMEN LEADERS
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
HEARING INSIDES FROM THESE
ESTEEMED PANELIST AND
DISCUSSION ON WOMEN IN SCIENCE
CAREERS, BALANCING LIFE,
SCIENCE AND WELL BEING AND THE
FUTURE OF WOMEN PIONEERING
SCIENCE AND INNOVATION AND AND
TO GET THINGS OFF TO A GREAT
START, WE'LL HEAR FROM NCATS
DIRECTOR DR. JONI RUTTER AND
DR. RUBINS.
DOCTOR RUBINS WAS SELECTED BINA
SA IN 2009 AND HAS COMPLETED
TWO SPACE MISSIONS.
AND IN HER MISSION, SHE BECAME
THE FIRST PERSON TO SEQUENCE
DNA IN SPACE.
[APPLAUSE]
SHE HAS SPENT A TOTAL OF 300
DAYS IN SPACE, THE FOURTH MOST
DAYS IN SPACE BY A U.S. FEMALE
ASTRONAUT AND SHE HAS PERFORMED
FOUR SPACE WALKS.
SHE HOLDS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE
IN SCIENCE FROM BIOLAR DEGREE
FROM SAN DIEGO AND MASTERS
MICROBIOLOGY AND IMMUNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT AND CONDUCTED HER PH
AT THE SOC AND ALSO WORKED AS A
FELLOW AND PRINCIPAL
INVESTIGATOR AT THE WHITEHEAD
AND I GUESS LEAD A TEAM OF 14
INVESTIGATORS STUDYING VIRAL
DISEASES THAT PRIMARILY AFFECT
CENTRAL AND WEST AFRICA.
SHE WAS DIRECT COMMISSIONED AS
A MAIJ IN THE UNITED STATES
NAVAL RESERVE AND CURRENTLY
HOLDING A OFFICER WITH THE 75th
COMMAND ABERDEEN.
HER ACCOMPLISHMENT SHOW US THAT
THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES FOR
WOMEN IN SCIENCE AND OF COURSE
WE ARE MOST HONORED TO HAVE HER
HERE TODAY.
I JUST WANT TO ADD A PERSONAL
NOTE.
YOU HEARD FROM JONI ABOUT SOME
OF THE THINGS I DID BEFORE I
GOT HERE IN THIS ROLE AND IT
JUST MEANS I'M OLD AND I'VE
BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
SOY GREW UP IN A TIME WHEN
WOMEN WERE DISCOURAGED FROM
GETTING THEIR EDUCATION.
MY MOTHER WHO WAS BRILLIANT WAS
FORBIDDEN BY HER PARENT TO GET
AN ACADEMIC HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA
BECAUSE SHE WOULD BE SMARTER
THAN HER HUSBAND IF SHE DID.
SO THANK GOD THINGS HAVE
CHANGED SO VERY VERY MUCH.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING DR.
JONI RUTTER AND DR. KATE RUBINS.
[APPLAUSE]
>> ALL RIGHT, TESTING CAN YOU
ALL HEAR US?
GREAT.
WELL, LARRY THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR THAT VERY WARM WELCOME AND
SHARING YOUR PERSONAL STORIES
AS WELL.
I'M ABSOLUTELY THRILLED TO HAVE
THE HONOR OF CHAT WITHING DR.
KATE RUBINS TODAY, WE'RE GOING
TO CALL HER KATE TODAY AS SO SO
FEEL FREE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF
AS WE GO THROUGH THE DAY.
AS YOU HEARD, SHE IS A TRUE
STAR.
SHE HAS WORKED SEVERAL YEARS
NOW IN BOTH SCIENCE AS WELL AS
SPACE EXPLORATION.
I WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF
A BACK STORY OF HOW TODAY CAME
TO BE.
THIS IS REALLY A PARTNERSHIP
WITH NDNRI AND I KNOW YOU SPENT
A LOT OF TIME TALKING SCIENCE
WITH THEM AS WELL.
IN ADDITION TO MY ROLE AS
SERVING AS THE NATIONAL CENTER
DIRECTOR, I'M ALSO THE NIH
LIASON THROUGH NASA AND THROUGH
THAT PARTNERSHIP WE'VE
DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS
ON BUILDING TISSUE ON CHIPS AND
STUDYING THOSE CHIPS IN SPACE.
AND KATE HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL
PERSON WITH THA. THAT'S HOW
TODAY CAME TO BE AND HOW WE'RE
DELIGHTEDED TO HAVE KATE HERE
TODAY.
SHE HAS DONE THOSE EXPERIMENTED
ON THE SPACE STATION AND ON
EARTH AT THE SAME TIME SO WE
CAN DO A TRUE EXPERIMENT AND
COMPARE THE RESULTS.
BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT TODAY IS TRULY ABOUT
SCIENCE THAT IS OUT OF THIS
WORLD, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO
GET GOING.
SO KATE, MY FIRST HERE IS JUST
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR
BACK GROUND?
LARRY GAVE US A LITTLE BIT
INSIDE ON THAT.
MAYBE WHAT IS NOT ON YOUR CD
AND HOW YOU CHOSE TO BE A
SCIENTIST AND HOW YOU CHOSE TO
BE AN ASTRONAUT
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, LIKE
MANY OF US IT STARTED IN
CHILDHOOD SO WHEN I WAS A 45
YEARS OLD I WANTED TO BE
ASTRONAUT AND BIOLOGY BECAUSE
YOU CAN HAVE THREE CAREERS WHEN
YOU'RE FIVE.
DAD WAS TOOK ME A TOUR, MOM HAD
A DAY TO RELAX BUT THERE WAS A
SCIENTIFIC CONFERENCE THERE AND
HE SIGNED US AND I GOT TO
LISTEN TO SIGN LIST PRESENTING
THEIR HIGH LEVEL PAPERS AND I
UNDERSTOOD ABOUT 140 PERCENT
BUT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT I
HEARD AND I WAS GOING WORK WITH
THE REST OF MY LIFE, WAS DNA.
IN HIGH SCHOOL I START TODAY
GET INTERESTED IN PUBLIC HEALTH
AND I GOT TOGETHER WITH A
GROUP ON HIV PREVENTION, SO WE
HAD TO HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE
INFORMATION TO TALK ABOUT THIS
VIRUS AND PREVENTION AND THAT
WAS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL TO
LISTEN TO PATIENT'S STORIES TO
LISTEN TO THE CLINICIANS THAT
WERE CARRYING TO THEM AND ALSO
TO LISTEN TO THE SIGN LIST.
AND I DECIDE THAT WHEN I WENT
TO COLLEGE I WAS GOING STUDY
HIV AND DNA AND I DIDN'T KNOW
HOW THAT WAS GOING TO COME
TOGETHER UNTIL I FOUND DR.
RICHMOND AT THE SOC INSTITUTE
WHO WAS STUDYING.
SO WHEN I WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL I
WAS LOOKING TO STUDY DIFFERENT
VIRUSES AND I GOT INTERESTED
WITH M.POX WHICH CA POINT
NOBODY WOW RESEARCHING AND KNEW
ABOUT AND WE STARTED WITH
MONKEYPOX AS WELL AND ALSO AT
THE DISEASE FOR DECREASE
CONTROL AND PREVENTION.
WHEN YOU MEET THE M BOX PEOPLE,
YOU ALSO IMMEDIATE THE EBOLA SO
I WORKED WITH THAT ON MY LAB.
WE HAD A LAB IN THE REPUBLICAN
OF CONGO WHERE WE WERE TREATING
PATIENTS THAT HAD M POX AND
THIS WAS GOING ALONG FINE UNTIL
ONE DAY I WAS WRITING AN NIH
GRANT AND IT WAS NOT GOING WELL.
AND THE CO-WORKER THAT I WAS
WRITING THIS GRANT W SAID, THIS
IS GOING TO TERRIBLY WE'RE
PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO NEED
NEW JOBS.
SXIFS LOOKING FOR A NEW JOB AND
I WAS LOOKING AT JOBS AND THERE
IS A JOB APPLICATION FOR AS
ASTRONAUT, AND I SAID INSTEAD
OF WRITING GRANTS.
AND I SAID I GOT MIA MRIKATION,
IN, AND SHE SAID, I WAS KIDDING.
AND I SAID DON'T WORRY, NASA IS
NEVER GOING TO GO CALL.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR.
ABOUT TWO YEARS LATER, I WAS
ASKED.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE
NOT IN THE CV AND NOT IN THE
INITIAL NASA BIOS, I HOPE YOU
ENJOYED THAT.
[APPLAUSE]
>> I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE NOW
ARE WRITING GRANTS THINKING, OH
WHAT A GREAT IDEA.
I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW, HOW DID
YOUR BACKGROUND IN VIROLOGY
COME?
>> WE DID OUR TIME TO RESEARCH
AND IT'S USUALLY OVER 450
PERCENT OF THE TIME OFTEN MUCH
HIGHER.
WE HAVE TO BALANCE WITH
MAINTENANCE OF THE SPACE
STATION AND DOING SPACE WALKS.
BUT ALL THE YEARS OF WORKING IN
THE LAB DEFINITELY HELPED ME
PREPARE FOR THE KIND OF SCIENCE
THAT WE WERE DOING IN THE
STATION.
AND IT'S NOT JUST BIOLOGY, IT
TOUCHES TISSUE CHIPS AND
PHYSIOLOGY BUT THIS IS ALSO
PARTICLE PHYSICS AND ALSO LOTS
OF THINGS THAT IS AFFECTED BY
MICRO GRAVITY AND THAT LACK OF
CONVECTION IS ONE OF THE VERY
INTERESTING THINGS THAT DRIVES
A LOT OF OUR SCIENCE.
SO I THINK THE LAB WORKS HELPS
VERY MUCH.
IN TERMS OF WORKING ON THE
SPACE STATION, IT SOUNDS VERY
ODD TO SAY THIS BUT THE MOST
SIMILAR ENVIRONMENT WAS IN THE
DEMOCRATIC OF KANG O, CONGO,
SO IT'S A PARADOX WHERE WE HAVE
ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE PLACES
OFF EARTH AND THE DEMOCRATIC
REPUBLIC OF CONGO WHERE BASIC
HEALTHCARE WAS A STRUGGLE.
HOWEVER BOTH OF THESE SPACES
ARE RESTRICTED SO THERE IS
LIMIT POWER, ALL THE POWER IS
SOLAR GENERATED.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEE OF FRESH
WATER SO ON THE SPIS STATION,
WE RECYCLED ALL WATER.
AND THE CONGO, WE HAD TO PURIFY
WATER FROM THE RIVER AND MAKE
SURE THAT WAS CLEAN ENOUGH TO
USE IN THE LAB.
WE DON'T HAVE A GUARANTEED DATA
INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS LIKE
SATELLITE PHONES IN THE CONGO
AND KU BAND.
SO THE WAY YOU DESIGN
EXPERIMENTS AND HARDWARE IS
PROFOUNDLY SIMILAR IN BOTH OF
THOSE CASES.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING, WE WERE
TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT
I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT, WE
DON'T, WE DON'T TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT REMOTE AREAS OR
RESOURCE POUR SETTINGS WHEN WE
THINK OF THE EQUIPMENT.
WE COME WITH THIS ABSOLUTE
ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S GOING TO
GO IN THE LAB WITH A TRAINED
TECHNIC AND THEY CAN CLICK IT
AND ORDER THE CONSUMABLE AND
IT'S GOING TO ARRIVE AND THEY
CAN PLUG IN AND THEY'VE GOT
POWER AND IMMEDIATE ACCESS FOR
DATA.
THAT CHANGES THE WAY YOU DESIGN
EQUIPMENT, YOU CAN BE BIG YOU
CAN BE A POWER HOG, IT CAN
REQUIRE ALL OF THESE THINGS.
SO IF YOU START THAT YOU'RE IN
A RESTRAINED SETTING AND YOU
HAVE TO THINK ABOUT YOUR DEVICE
CAREFULLY, BECAUSE SOLAR, YOU
HAVE TO MANAGE YOUR WATTS, YOU
WANT TO GET RID OF EVERYTHING
THAT AND CONSUMERS CAN LAST FOR
A LONG TIME AND THEY'RE
IMPERVIOUS IN CHANGES TO
TEMPERATURE OR VIBRATION,
STABILITY, DUST, THE KIND OF
EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD WORK THERE
WOULD ALSO WORK ON THE SPACE
STATION, THESE ARE ALL THE SAME
CON COMPLAINTS.
--CONSTRAINTS, SO DOING WORK IN
THE LAB IN THE U.S. FIELD WORK
AND BEING IN THE SPACE STATION
IS NOT MAYBE AFFECTED MY
DAY-TO-DAY ON HOW I OPERATED IN
SPACE BUT IT AFFECTS VERY MUCH
HOW I THINK ABOUT HARDWARE
DESIGN AND WORK DESIGN.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT IN DOING
THE TISSUE CHIPS THAT WE'VE
DONE.
IT STARTED, THE TISSUE CHIPS
WERE NOT WHAT THEY ARE TODAY,
IT WAS PRETTY BIG LIKE A SIZE
OF A SHOE BOX.
WE TALKED ABOUT TEAM SCIENCE
AND THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH NASA
TO GET THEM TO A POINT WHERE
THEY WERE REALLY SMALL WHERE
THEY CAN BE MORE HIGHLY
EFFICIENT SYSTEMS, I THINK
THAT'S A GREAT LESSON THAT WE
CAN LEARN.
NOW SPEAKING OF THE TISSUE CHIP
PROGRAM, I WANT TO HONE IN ON
THAT A LITTLE BIT.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE ROLE THAT YOU PLAYED IN
SOME.
OF THE EXPERIMENTS THAT YOU
WERE INVOLVED WITH.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR
EXPERIMENTS SPECIFICALLY HAD A
LOT OF HEART.
TELL US WHAT THAT MEANS AND
WHAT YOU DID?
>> YOU'RE ON FIRE, SHE IS GOING
TO BE HERE ALL WEEK.
YES, I WORKED ON THE HEART
CELLS EXPERIMENT WITH A GROUP
OF RESEARCHERS IN THE
CARDIOVASCULAR INSTITUTE AT
STANFORD AND THAT WAS IN 2016.
AND THEY DECIDED INSTEAD OF
JUST LOOKING I PC CARDIO DECIDE
TODAY LOOK AT A MORE COMPLEX
TISSUE.
SO WE LOOKED AT CARDIO MISITE
IN ENGINEERED HEART TISSUE.
SO I WAS FORTUNATE TO BE UP
THERE IN 24016 WHEN THE FIRST
EXPERIMENT WAS LAUNCHED AND
THEN AGAIN IN 24020.
AND SO, THOSE CELLS WERE MY
PROJECT.
LET ME TELL YOU, THAT WAS MY
BABY, I WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE
OF IT, NONE OF THE ASTRONAUTS
WERE NEAR IT, I DIDN'T WANT
THEM TO CONTAMINATE THE SAMPLE.
THIS IS A EXPERIMENT IN SPACE
AND YOU'VE GOT TO GET THE
CHANGES.
IT WAS A REALLY NEAT
EXPERIMENT, ESSENTIALLY THE
HEART TISSUE WAS EXTENDED
BETWEEN TWO VIDEOS SO WE CAN
USE SPLIT SCREENS BECAUSE THE
CELLS ACTUALLY BEAT.
WE USE GENO EXPRESSION AND ABLE
TO RETURN SMFT TISSUE TO EARTH
THAT WAY WHEN IT CAME BACK TO
EARTH THEY COULD STUDY THE
CALCIUM IMAGING, WE DON'T HAVE
GREAT CAPABILITY TO DOING
STAINING.
SO THIS IS REALLY FUN
INCREDIBLE EXPERIMENT AND I
HAVE TO SAY WHEN I, THE FIRST
TIME I PULLED THAT EXPERIMENT
OUT IN 2020, YOU KNOW THE
MICROSCOPE HAS GOT A MONITOR
AND IT'S UP IN THE LAB AND
PEOPLE CAN SEE IT.
AND COUPLE OF MY CREWMATES CAME
BY AND THEY SAID WHAT IS GOING
ON, BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE CELLS
BEATING, AND I SAID THIS IS
HEART TISSUE AND EVERYBODY HAD
TO COME OVER AND LOOK AT THE
HEART CELLS.
I THINK THE ONLY OTHER
EXPERIMENT GOT THAT MUCH
ATTENTION WAS WHEN WE WERE
GROWING A CROP OF RADISHES.
>> INTERESTING.
IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART
BECAUSE WE WERE AT THE LAUNCH
OF HIS SECOND ROUND OF TISSUE
CHIPS GOING AROUND.
SO I FEEL ATTACHED, THANK YOU
FOR TAKING SUCH GOOD CARE.
YOU KNOW, THE CELLS IN SPACE
EXPERIENCE A DIFFERENT
ENVIRONMENT, OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE
IN SPACE, MICRO GRAVITY
ENVIRONMENT.
AND ON EARTH THEY DON'T HAVE
THAT, SO DOING THOSE EXPERIMENT
IN BOTH SPACE AND EARTH IS
IMPORTANT.
CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT
YOU LEARNED FROM THE GRAVITY
ENVIRONMENT AND HOW DOES THAT
AFFECT THE CELLS?
>> ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN EVEN
START HIGHER UP WITH THE HUMAN
PHYSIOLOGY, IT'S AFFECTED BY
MICRO GRAVITY.
IT'S ACTUALLY HOW QUICK THE
BODY, HOW QUICK THE BODY ADAPTS
TO MICRO GRAVITY AND THEN IT
BECOMES DIS REGULATED WHEN IT'S
BACK TO ONE GRAVITY.
THINGS LIKENESSTEBULAR, WE HAD
BONE LOSS AND MUSCLE LOSS,
CARDIAC DYSFUNCTION, CLOTTING
DISORDER, NAME AN ORGAN SYSTEM,
THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON IN
RESPONSE TO SPACE LIGHT.
SO IT'S REALLY NEAT TO BREAK IT
DOWN TO THE TISSUE LEVEL AND I
THINK THE TISSUE CHIPS IS SUCH
AN IMPORTANT EXPERIMENT BECAUSE
IT'S NOT JUST LOOKING AT
CULTURE, IT'S TRYING TO
SIMULATE THE ORGAN SYSTEM.
SO SING SOME OF THE EFFECTS,
SOME OF THE DUE TO THE
CONVECTION.
SO THE BEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT
THAT IS A HANDLE ON EARTH WILL
HAVE THAT TEARDROP SHAPE FLAME.
IN SPACE, IT'S ACTUALLY ROUND,
IT'S A LITTLE BALL OF FIRE ON
TOP OF THE KENNEL BECAUSE THE
HOT AIR IS NOT GOING UP.
THE SAME THING HAPPENS IN FLUID.
FLUID IS NOT MIXING SO THINGS
IN SPACE ARE SUSPENDED WITH
SHEER FORCE FROM THE FLUIDS,
YOU GET BUILD UPS AROUND THE
CELLS.
WE SEE A LOT OF CELLS, CANCEL
CELLS FOR EXAMPLE, ACQUIRE
MUTATIONS MORE RAPIDLY.
THE ARCHITECTURE IS CHANGING SO
THAT TISSUE ARCHITECTURE EVEN
IF IT'S A SMALL TISSUE, IT HAS
A INFLUENCE OF GRAVITY.
THEN WHEN YOU TAKE THAT TO
SPACE, THE WAY THE CELLS
ASSEMBLE AND COMMUNICATE WITH
EACH OTHER IS MUCH MORE RATHER
THAN SOMETHING GETTING A LITTLE
FLAT AND PUSHED TO A PLACE.
SO IF YOU USE NORMAL CELL
CULTURE, THEY SETTLE TO THE
BOTTOM OF THE PLASTIC AND STAY.
AND IN SPACE IT'S NOT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THAT
FOR SURE.
IT'S FASCINATING AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE'RE THINKING
ABOUT, WHEN WE DO THE TISSUE
CHIPS HERE ON SPACE WHEN WE DO
THEM HERE ON EARTH AS WELL, THE
VIABILITY OF THE CELLS DOES NOT
LAST LONG.
BUT THERE IS AN INTEREST FOR
NASA TO GO TO MARS AND MOON
AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE
OF THOSE PROGRAMS WHERE WELKER
WE CAN STILL LEARN A LOT.
BUT WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE
VIABILITY OF THE CELLS.
THERE ARE OF COURSE OTHER
CHALLENGES AS WELL, FOR
EXAMPLE, WELL, HAVE YOU MAYBE
PICK ONE OF YOUR FAVORITE HERE
BUT THERE ARE BIOLOGICAL
CHALLENGES LIKE THE DIFFERENT
GRAVITY ENVIRONMENT FROM MARS
AND MOON VERSUS THE SPACE
STATION.
AND ALSO THIS IDEA THAT IT
NEEDS TO BE SELF SUSTAINED.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
SORT OF NASA IS THINKING ABOUT
THE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS HOW
IMPORTANT THAT WILL BE FOR
SUSTAINING MULTIPLE STATIONS
INTO THE MOON AND MARS AND
AFFECT ON HUMANS, PERIOD.
>> YEAH, SOY MENTIONED THE
CLOSED LOOP WATER SYSTEM AND
I'M GOING SAY 497 PERCENT,
BECAUSE WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT
THIS.
SO WE DON'T NORMALLY SHIP WATER
INTO SPACE, WE RECYCLE ALL THE
MOLECULES AND HAVE A WAY TO
PURIFY, WE CONDENSE WATER FROM
THE ATMOSPHERE AND SOUNDS GROS
BUT HUMAN, THE JOKE IS
YESTERDAY'S COFFEE IS
TOMORROW'S COFFEE AND IT'S NOT
YOURS COFFEE BUT YOUR
ROOMMATE'S COFFEE AS WELL.
WE HAVE THIS SMALL AMOUNT OF
WATER AND WE'VE USED IT FOR A
DECADE THERE IS NO WASTE STREAM
COMING OUT OF THE SPACE.
SO THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
AND I THINK THAT DRIVES SOME OF
OUR THINKING FOR OTHER AREAS OF
LIFE SUPPORT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE BUILT UP CO-2
JUST RESPIRATION, WE HAVE TO
CAPTURE CO-2 AND PEOPLE ARE
INTERESTED IN CARBON TECHNOLOGY.
AND WE USE BUT THERE IS ALL
KINDS OF CARBON AND CARBON IS A
VERY USEFUL MOLECULE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE
SYNTHETIC BIOLOGY THIS WOULD BE
INTERESTING FEEDBACK.
AND I MENTIONED THIS BODY
REACTION AND WE'RE USING THAT
TO RECOVER ADDITIONAL WATER AS
WELL.
METHANE IS A BY-PRODUCT BUT
VERY USEFUL FOR FUEL.
IN THE RECYCLING SYSTEM WE COME
UP WITH A BRIAN AND ONE OF THE
WAYS WE WERE GETTING THE LAST
FEW PERCENT IS WE PUT THE BRIAN
IN A FILTER AND DRY IT OUT AND
RECOVER ALL THE MOLECULES BACK
INTO THE SYSTEM BUT THEN WE
THROW AWAY THE DRY BRIAN.
BUT TALK ABOUT A HUGE SOURCE OF
NITROGEN, SO IF WE HAVE PLANTS
GROWING ON BOARD, THEY CAN TAKE
THAT NITROGEN THAT THEY CAN
FEED THE PLANTS, THE PLANTS
THEN HELP YOU OBSERVE CO24,
THEY'RE GOING TO ALSO PRODUCE
OXYGEN AND FOOD FOR THE
ASTRONAUTS.
AND THE PLANTS ARE NOT GOING TO
BE YOUR ENTIRE FOOD SOURCE, SO
THESE ARE ADDITIONS TO OTHER
MECHANIC CAL LIFE SYSTEMS BUT
IT'S ESSENTIALLY CAPTURING
BIOLOGY AND DOING WHAT BIOLOGY
DOES BUST TO SUSTAIN HUMAN LIFE
IN A RESOURCE CONSCIOUS WAY
THAT IS NOT GETTING RID OF
THESE WASTE PRODUCTS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS
AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND
EXPERIMENT WITH AN EYE TO
SEEING HOW EFFICIENT ARE THE
SYSTEMS.
SO THESE ARE ALL GOOD IDEAS BUT
SOME WE MAY START DOING AND
IT'S NOT EFFICIENT, ECONOMIC
FEASIBLE, WE SPEND TOO MUCH
MONEY OR WATTS OF POWER.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT
ENGINEERING AND FIGURE OUT WHAT
IS USEFUL AND WHAT GIVES US
MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK AND THIS
FORCING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT GO
TO MARS AND YOU'RE NOT RUNINGER
EVERY GRAM THAT YOU LAUNCHED
COUNTS.
SO WE CANNOT JUST BE DUMPING
OUR CO24 OVERBOARD, WE THROW
AWAY A LOT OF PLASTIC PACKAGING
AND THEN WE'VE GOT A 34D
PRINTER IN SPACE, SO WE NEED TO
BE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE
AND A ZERO WASTE STREAM COMING
OUT.
>> THAT SOUNDS AMAZING AND
SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FUN TO
ALSO USE ON EARTH PERHAPS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU CAN BUILD
HERE.
WE'RE START TO GO WIND DOWN ON
OUR TIME SO I WANT TO
TRANSITION TO SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS THAT I'VE BEEN
THINKING ABOUT, WHEN I THINK
ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE ASTRONAUTS
WHO GET TO LIVE ON THE SPACE
STATION FOR A LITTLE BIT.
YOU HAVE A VIEW LIKE NO OTHER,
I'M A BUDDING ASTRO
PHOTOGRAPHER SO I HAVE TO LOOK
THROUGH A MICROSCOPE.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT WAS THE
MOST BEAUTIFUL THING YOU SAW.
>> DEFINITELY OUR EARTH.
WHEN I WAS GETTING READY TO
LAUNCH I WAS SO EXCITED AND I
WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT THE VIEW
AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, I'VE SEEN
THAT IN THE MOVIES AND I WORK
FOR MISSION CONTROL AND WE SEE
THE PLANET EVERYDAY AND WHEN WE
GOT TO SPACE AND WE'RE DONE TO
DO WE FINALLY LOOKED OUT THE
WINDOW AND I COULDN'T TALK FOR
A FEW MINUTES.
I WAS STRUCK DUMB WITH HOW
INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL THE EARTH
IS.
AND IT'S NOT THE SAME AS YOU
SEE ON A VAO, PART OF IT IS
SEEING IT IN 34D, YOU REALLY
GET A SENSE THAT IT'S A BLUE
BALL THAT IS SUSPENDED IN THE
SPACE AND WHEN YOU'RE OR BIGT,
YOU GET THE SENSE THAT YOU'RE
ORBITING AROUND THE SUN.
WHEN YOU'RE IN SPACE AS THE
BETA ANGLE CHANGES, THERE WILL
BE A SHORT TRACK AND THAT
HAPPENS THIS CHANGES ON A DAILY
BASIS.
YOU GET A SENSE THAT SPACE SHIP
EARTH IS ROTATING AROUND THE
SUN SO BRIGHTNESS OF THE PLANET
AND DYNAMIC, TO AN ASTRONAUT,
EVERY SINGLE LOOKS BACK AT THE
PLANET.
IT'S CALLED THE OVERVIEW AFFECT
AND IT REALLY PROFOUNDLY
CHANGES HOW YOU THINK HOW
FRAGILE LIFE IS AND IT'S ON A
BEAUTIFUL BLUE BALL AND
SURROUNDED BY THE BLACKNESS OF
SPACE WHICH IS INCOMPATIBLE AND
HOW THIN THE ATMOSPHERE AND HOW
CAREFUL WE NEED TO BE OF OUR
PLANET AND STEWARDSHIP OF OUR
RESOURCES.
>> AMAZING.
[APPLAUSE]
YEAH.
SO WE WE HAVE ONE MINUTE NEXT
AND I WANT TO CLOSE IT OUT WITH
SETTING IT UP FOR THE CAMPFIRE
SESSIONS.
WHAT KIND OF ADVISE WOULD YOU
GIVE TO YOUNG GIRLS WHO DREAM
OF BEING AN ASTRONAUT.
WHAT KIND OF THINGS DO YOU SAY
TO THEM?
>> I THINK A LOT STARTS YOUNG
AND STARTING A STEM CAREER,
THAT'S THE SINGLE MOST
IMPORTANT CAREER.
WHEN I GREW UP, MY GRAND NOERT
WORKED AT LABORATORY AS A
TECHNICIAN.
SO GROIPG, I JUST HEARD GRANDMA
WORKS ATED A LAB BENCH AND I
DID NOT KNOW HOW INCREDIBLY
RARE AND SHE HAD TO WEAR HEELS
AND STOCKINGS TO WORK EVERYDAY
AND ONLY A TECHNICIAN BUT I
HEARD STORIES ABOUT BARBARA
MccLINTOCK, SO NORMALIZING
THAT, EXPOSE ING PEOPLE AT
YOUNG AGES TO SCIENCE, YOU
KNOW, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THESE FORMATIVE MOMENT
THAT'S WERE A DAY OR A FEW
MOMENTS IN MY LIFE THAT MADE ME
WANT TO JOIN THE SCIENTIFIC
CAREER.
AND THERE IS A AGE, GETTING
YOUNG KIDS THAT SCIENTIFIC
EXPERIENCE SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT
IT'S LIKE TO EXTRACT DNA FROM A
STRAWBERRY AND SEE WHAT IT'S
LIKE IN A LAB AND PICTURE
THEMSELVES DOING THAT JOB.
I THINK WHEN THERE IS ABSTRACT
CONCEPT, IT'S DIFFICULT TO
THINK THAT YOU CAN GET THERE
ONE DAY.
SO GETTING THEM IN THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES AS SOON AS WE
CAN, I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY
POWERFUL.
>> EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT ADVISE
OUT THERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, KATE, WE'RE
GOING TO NOW CLOSE OUT OUR
SESSION AND OPEN UP OUR NEXT
SESSIONS.
SO I'M GOING TO INVITE DR.
ANNICA WAYMAN TO STAGE.
SO KATE STAY WHERE YOU ARE AND
ANNICA.
I THINK I'M MOVING SEATS.
YOU DON'T NEED THAT.
>> WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S GIVE ANOTHER ROUND OF
APPLAUSE FOR THAT WONDERFUL
CAMPFIRE CHAT.
SO NOW WE WANT TO EXPAND THE
CONVERSATION, TO OUR CAMPFIRE
CHATS TO HEAR FROM MORE AMAZING
WOMEN IN SCIENCE ON VARIOUS
TOPICS.
OUR FIRST CAMPFIRE CHAT WILL BE
ON BREAKING THE GLASS CEILINGS
AND TYING TO OUR SPACE PUNS,
CROSSING THE CARMAN LINES,
WHICH TRADITIONALLY YOU CANNOT
GO TO BUT KATE HAS.
I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR
PANELIST TO PLEASE COME FORWARD.
WE'LL HAVE DR. THE DIRECTOR OF
NIH CENTER FOR COMMENTARY AND
INTEGRAL HEALTH.
NEXT WE'LL HAVE ONA AMBER SITE,
JOHN COP TINS SCIENCE DIPLOMACY
HUB, CODIRECTOR, WELCOME.
DR. DEBRA, INSTITUTE OF
DEAFNESS AND OTHER
COMMUNICATION DISORDERS.
[APPLAUSE] AND THEN FINALLY MS.
CLAIRE CHEN, SENIOR EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL COUNCIL
GLOBAL ADMINISTRATORS.
SO I'M SO EXCITED JUST HEARING
YOU PREVIOUS TO THIS PANEL, I
KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
GREAT DISCUSSION.
SO WE'LL START WITH YOU, KATE.
SO YOU DEFINITELY HAVE AN
INTERESTING STORY IN TERMS OF
HOW YOU'VE BECOME AN ASTRONAUT
BUT CURIOUS TO THE REAX TO
OTHER PEOPLE.
WHAT'S THE MOST SURPRISING
REACTION THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN
WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE YOU'RE A
SCIENTIST AND ASTRONAUT AT THAT.
>> IT THROWS PEOPLE FOR A LOOP.
I THINK PARTLY BECAUSE
ASTRONAUTS HAVE BEEN PROMINENCE
IN OUR CULTURE AND WHEN YOU ASK
WHO DO YOU PICTURE A ASTRONAUT,
THEY PICTURE A PILOT MALE, BUT
NOW WE HAVE FEMALE MILITARY
PILOTS.
THAT'S REALLY GROWN THE NUMBER
OF WOMEN IN THE ASTRONAUT
OFFICE.
SO I THINK THERE IS KIND OF
THIS INTERESTING REACTION.
BUT THE GREAT THING IS WHEN YOU
START TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT
SCIENCE AND SPACE, IT SHIFTS
AWAY FROM THE PERSONA AND WE
START TO TALK ABOUT THE
SUBSTANCE OF THE SCIENCE AND
PROMISE OF SPACE EXPLORATION
AND ALL THE COOL THINGS THAT WE
CAN DO FOR SCIENCE AND SPACE.
I GET A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE
WHEN WE WERE TALK ABOUT BENCH
EXPERIMENT SXZ SCIENTIFIC
EXPERIMENTS.
>> AND I'M SURE THAT BREAKS
DOWN THEIR STEREOTYPES AND
PERCEPTION OF.
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
>> THAT'S WONDERFUL.
HELEN, THIS SESSION IS ABOUT
GLASS CEILINGS, SO WHEN YOU
DESCRIBE A BARRIER THAT YOU
CONFRONTED AND HOW DID YOU
ADAPT AND WHAT DO YOU THINK CAN
DIS MANTLE SUCH BARRIERS FOR
WOMEN AND SCIENCE, JUST OFF THE
WORLD.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY LOVE
THIS QUESTION, I REALLY THOUGHT
ABOUT IT QUITE A BIT.
AND I THINK THE HARDEST BARRIER
THAT I EVER ENCOUNTERED WAS
EARLY ON IN MY CAREER.
I WANT TODAY DO AN EXPERIMENT
TO LOOK AT THE AFFECTS OF
ACUPUNCTURE USING OUR LITTLE
ROBOT THAT WOULD INSERT THE
NEEDLES ROBOTICKLY AND THEN
PERFORM THE ACUPUNCTURE
MANIPULATION IN A WAY THAT WAS
REPRODUCABLE THAT YOU CAN DO
SOME SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS
WITH.
BUT THIS WAS 1995, THERE WAS NO
SUCH THING AS THE NATIONAL
CENTER FOR COMPLIMENTARY OR
HEALTH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP AT
THE MEDICAL SCHOOL WAS NOT
HAPPY.
THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS
RIDICULOUS AND EMBARRASSING.
FORTUNATELY FOR ME I HAD A
SUPPORTIVE I DID SUBMIT AN NIH
APPLICATION BUT THEN THEY GOT
REVIEWERS THAT WERE
ACUPUNCTURIST AND DIDN'T LIKE
IT EITHER, THEY SAID YOU CANNOT
GET A ROBOT TO DO ACUPUNCTURE,
YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT.
SO IN BOTH CASES I WAS RUNNING
INTO A BARRIER THAT WAS A
PRECONCEIVED IDEA OF WHAT
SCIENCE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE.
AND THE SECOND PART OF YOUR
QUESTION, IS WHAT WOULD YOU DO
TO BREAK THAT AND A LOT OF
TIMES ESPECIALLY WHEN I SPEAK
TO YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE JUST
STARTING IN THEIR CAREERS, IT'S
HARD ENOUGH BEING A WOMEN DOING
THIS KIND OF THING, BUT I SEE
THEM SOMETIMES HESITATING AND
WANTING TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT
ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE
CONSERVATIVE, MAYBE A LITTLE
LESS RISKY.
AND I SAY, LOOK GO FOR IT.
I MEAN, THERE IS WE NEED THIS,
WE NEED TO NOT BE AFRAID TO
TACKLE QUESTIONS THAT ARE OUT
OF THE BOX AND THAT PUSH THE
LIMITS AND THE CARMAN LINE, I
LOVE THAT IMAGE.
IT'S REALLY FUN.
AND I REALLY LIKE, AND I THINK
THAT YOU KNOW, WOMEN JUST NEED
TO DO IT.
>> THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE PART OF
THE BENEFIT OF DIVERSITY ACROSS
WHATEVER LINES IS BRINGING THE
DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
BUT IF THOSE DIVERSE
PERSPECTIVES ARE MET WITH
RESISTANCE IS--I LIKE THAT YOU
BROUGHT THAT UP AND THE EN
KAOURNLMENT OF HOW TO BREAK
THAT BARRIER.
SO ONA YOU'RE A CHEMISTRY
STUDENT AS CODIRECTOR, CAN YOU
DESCRIBE HOW MENTORS INFLUENCED
YOUR CAREER IN A WAY OF WHAT
HAS EXPANDED YOUR VISION ON
WHAT IS POSSIBLE FOR YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE SO MANY
POSITIVE EMOTIONS HERE AND THE
ENCOURAGEMENT FROM ALL OF US
HERE TO JUST DO IT.
THIS IS THE MIND SET HERE AND
SO FOR THE QUESTION, VERY EARLY
ON DURING MY Ph.d I OBVIOUSLY
HAD THE ACADEMIC MENTOR WHICH
IS IMPORTANT AND I HAVE TONS OF
ADVISE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
START THEIR GRADUATE PROGRAM
AND HOW THEY SHOULD CHOOSE
SOMEBODY THAT THEY CAN REALLY,
YOU KNOW, SEE THEMSELVES
LOOKING WITH FOR MANY MANY
YEARS.
SO THAT WAS ONE, BUT THEN MY
PASSION FOR CONNECTING
COUNTRIES USING SCIENCE, HAS
ALWAYS BEEN THERE SO I SPENT
TIME IN JAPAN IN UNIVERSITY AND
FRANCE AT THE ENGINEERING
INSTITUTE IN STROTWORTH.
SO I THINK MY LIFE SHOWED ME
THAT SCIENCE IS NOT CONFINED TO
ONE COUNTRY.
AND I SAID WHY DON'T WE DO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE AT
JOHN HOPKINS AND THEY SAID, WE
DON'T DO THAT.
AND I SAID WHY NOT, WE START
TODAY WORK WITH 'EM BAL SEES
FOR EXAMPLE ON TOPICS OF
INTERNATIONAL INTEREST, IT CAN
RANGE FROM CLIMATE RANGE TO
QUANTUM.
SO MY Ph.d IS WORKING ON
DEFECTS AND SEEING HOW WE CAN
ELICIT THE OTON EMITERS SO
DESIGNER AND DESIGNER SURFACES
WE USE.
AND LONG STORY SHORT, THAT ALL
LEAD TO ME BEING CONNECTED TO
DR. PETER WHO IS PHENOMENAL
SCIENTIST, RECEIVED HIS NOBLE
PRICE IN 2003 FOR DISCOVERING
AND THEN WE GOT CONNECTED
BECAUSE OF HIS INTEREST ALSO IN
USING HIS NOBEL PRIZE STATUS
TO GO TO COUNTRIES THAT WE
DON'T TALK TO.
WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT, HE WENT
TO COUNTRIES LIKE CUBA AND IRAN
FOR EXAMPLE, SO HIM AND I
CONNECTED AND HE BECAME
NATURALLY MY OTHER MENTOR.
SO YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY
FASCINATING TO SEE HOW YOU
START FROM SOMETHING THAT
YOU'RE JUST IN LOVE WITH, SO
SCIENCE DIPLOMACY FOR ME AND
YOU FIND IS THE PERSON SORT OF
TO JOIN YOU ALONG THE WAY.
AND WITH PETER, WE JOINED LAST
YEAR AT THE JOHN HOPKINS
BLOOMBERG CENTER AND THAT'S HOW
WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR WORK SINCE
THEN.
AND HE'S BEEN JUST A HUMBLE,
YOU KNOW, MENTOR WHO I REALLY
WANT TO SHOWCASE DURING OUR
EVENTS, BECAUSE HIS EXPERTISE
IS ALWAYS SO EASY TO LISTEN TO.
AND HE LIKES TO SAY THAT YOU
KNOW, ONAH JUST DOES EVERYTHING
AND I JUST HOLD THE FLASHLIGHT.
HE'S AN EXCELLENT MENTOR.
I SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE
PEOPLE, LIKE IN MY LIFE I'VE
HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE SO PETER
AND ADVISORY ALSO COMMITTEE YOU
BUILD ALONG THE WAY.
SO ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL
LADIES IN THE ROOM, THEY'RE
PART OF MY LIFE ADVISORY
COMMITTEE.
IT'S RALLY NICE TO HAVE THEM.
>> YES, I HEARD PEOPLE MENTION
IT'S NOT ABOUT HAVING MENTORS
BUT THE BOARD OF ADVISORS THERE
ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT YOU GO
TO.
AND I LOVE HOW YOU TIE HOW YOU
MENTION IN TERMS OF HAVING
THESE DIVERSE IDEAS AND PEOPLE
SAYING, NO BUT FINDING THAT
MENTOR WHO WILL SAY YES AND
BRING YOU THE BROADER
UNDERSTANDING AND WE DO NEED TO
GO BEYOND OUR BORDERS AS CAME
UP AS WELL WITH KATE BECAUSE WE
CAN LEARN SO MUCH AS TO HOW TO
IMPROVE OUR SITUATIONS HERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT
ANSWER.
OKAY, JUST SHIFTING.
SO DEB, YOU'RE ON THE SPOTLIGHT
NEXT.
REFLECTING BACK, HOW MENTOR
SHAPED YOUR CAREER AND HAS THAT
INFLUENCED HOW YOU MENTOR
OTHERS?
>> YEAH, I'VE HAD SO MUCH
EXPERIENCE WITH FANTASTIC
MENTORSHIP AND I THINK THAT,
EARLY ON, THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING WAS THAT MY MENTORS HAD
MORE CONFIDENCE IN ME THAN I
HAD IN MYSELF.
AND I THINK THAT BEING ABLE TO
SEE THAT ESPECIALLY FOR A
WOMEN, WHERE THERE MAY NOT BE
THE ROLE MODELS WORE EXACTLY
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT YOU
NEED TO HAVE THAT EN KAOURMENT.
--ENCOURAGEMENT SO IT WAS
UNCONDITIONAL AND ENTHUSIASTIC.
THAT'S WHAT STARTED AND ALONG
THE THEME, I HAD MANY MENTOR
THROUGHOUT MY CAREER AT
DIFFERENT POINTS FOR DIFFERENT
REASONS.
AND IN ADDITION TO MENTORS, I
THINK ONE THING THAT I GOT FROM
MY EARLY MENTORS WAS THAT THEY
INTRODUCED ME TO A WIDE NETWORK
OF PEOPLE.
AND SO YOU DEVELOP A VERY RICH,
COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WHO YOU
KNOW WHO YOU LEARN FROM AND IN
ADDITION TO MENTORSHIP, THEY
CAN PROVIDE ALLISHIP WHICH IS
REALLY IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY IN
YOUR INSTITUTION AND
SPONSORSHIP.
SO I THINK OF SPONSORSHIP OF
THINKING OF YOU FOR TO GIVE A
TALK OR TO CHAIR A PANEL OR
EVEN TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR
SEARCH.
SO THE WIETDER YOUR NETWORK CAN
BE, I THINK THE BETTER IT IS
FOR YOU IN YOUR CAREER.
AND I THINK IT'S A IMPORTANT TO
HAVE MORE SCIENCE SCIENCE
MENTOR.
I'M A SURGEON AND THERE WAS NOT
A LOT OF WOMEN SURGEON ALONG
SOME FINGERS MISSING.
SO THERE WAS NO ONE AROUND TO
SORT OF CHART THE COURSE OR
SAY, THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD DO
THIS, OR THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD
BALANCE YOUR FAMILY AND CAREER.
SO HAVING LOTS OF DIFFERENT
TYPES OF ADVISORS WAS EXTREMELY
HELPFUL.
SO I'VE USED MY EXPERIENCE WITH
MENTORSHIP TO DEVELOP SOME MENT
ORGANIZE PROGRAMS IN OUR
INSTITUTE AND WE'VE ACTUALLY
USED THAT EXPERIENCE TO HELP
STRUCTURE PROGRAMS AND I THINK
MENTORSHIP CAN BE FORMAL, IT
CAN BE INFORMAL IT CAN BE
SOMETHING WHO IS SITTING IN AN
OFFICE NEXT TO YOU AND I THINK
THAT PURE MENTORSHIP IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
THE FURTHER YOU GET ALONG IN
YOUR CAREER, THE MORE IMPORTANT
YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE.
AND THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT I
OFTEN WILL GO TO FOR ADVISE NOW
IN MY LATER CAREER.
>> I DEFINITELY AGREE ON THE
PEER MENTORSHIP AND WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT FELLOWSHIP PROGRAMS
THAT ARE V THESE COHORT MODELS
IT'S BUILDING ON THAT MODEL AND
HOW IT HELPS TO REALLY
STRENGTHEN AND HELP YOU BUILD
THAT CONFIDENCE AND THROUGH
YOUR PEERS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE
NECESSARY YOURSELF.
THAT'S GREAT, I LOVE THA. I'M
SURE WE HAVE A LOST OTHER
ANSWERS WHEN WITH IT COMES TO
MENTORSHIP BUT PLEASE FEEL FREE
TO CHIME IN IF YOU HAVE THINGS
TO ADD, WE HAVE A LOT OF RICH
EXPERIENCE THAT WE DON'T WANT
TO LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR
FROM.
BUT WE'LL MOVE TO CLAIRE FOR
NOW.
AND DEB WAS MENTIONING THROUGH
MENTORSHIP YOU THEN BUILD
NETWORKS AND HOW IMPORTANT
NETWORKS ARE AND PUBLISH LITTER
SHIP IN TERMS OF UNDER
REPRESENTED GROUPS.
BUT NETWORKS WITH SOMETIMES
REINFORCE NET BUT THEY CAN
CREATE NEW PATHWAYS.
SO HOW YOUR PROFESSIONAL
NETWORKS CHANGED NOT JUST YOUR
CAREER BUT YOUR SENSE OF AGENCY
WITHIN SCIENCE.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR
THAT QUESTION.
AND THANKS TO DR. FOR SPONSOR
AND WOMEN SCIENCE DEPARTMENT
BEING HERE AND OUR EXCELLENT
EXPERTS HERE AS WELL.
SO ONE THING I WANT TO START
WITH, I WORK AT NATIONAL
COUNSEL NATIONAL RESEARCH
ADMINISTRATOR.
MY BACKGROUND IS INTERNATIONAL
RELATIONS AND DIPLOMACY SO THE
OTHER SIDE OF SCIENCE.
ONE THING I CONSIDER MYSELF
LUCKY NOT ONLY I HAVE 140,000
MEMBER SUPPORTING MY WORK,
DOING WORK IN 40 DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES.
MEANWHILE, I GOT INTO THE
SCIENCE DEPARTMENT WORK SPSHL
THROUGH THE WASHINGTON DC
EMBASSY COUNSELORS WHO ARE
DOING CUTTING EDGE WORK TO PAVE
THE WAY FOR INTERNATIONAL
COLLABORATION.
ONE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
TODAY IS BREAKING THE BARRIERS
THAT SCIENCE KNOWS NO BORDER
BUT PLEASE MIND THE GENDER GAP.
THROUGH OUR WORK WITH DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES ESPECIALLY LOW TO
MEDIUM INCOME COUNTRIES, WE
KNOW NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO
FUNDING.
LIKE WRITING A GRANT CAN PUSH
YOU TO BECOME A ASTRONAUT.
THERE ARE MANY ISSUES HOW THAT
DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW NIH WORK.
FOR VERY SMALL THINSSING,
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
TO REITERATE OVER AND OVER
AGAIN FOR COUNTRIES OUTSIDE OF
THE UNITED STATES TO UNDERSTAND.
NIH IS NOT ONE CENTER IT'S
MULTIPLE EXPERTISE AND
KNOWLEDGE SHARING WITHIN THIS
EXCELLENT INSTITUTE.
AND WHAT I THINK I WANT TO SAY,
FOR BREAKING BARRIER, I WANT TO
QUOTE ROYAL ACADEMY, IT MEANS
DON'T TAKE ANYBODY'S WORTH FOR
IT THROUGH THINGS THROUGH
EXPERIENCE SHARING KNOWLEDGE
ACROSS THE BORDER.
DON'T BELIEVE IN THE AUTHORITY
SAYING WOMEN CANNOT BE SCIENCE
OR BE SURGEONS DO THINGS LIKE
BREAKING THAT GLASS CEILINGS
AND USING YOUR COMMUNITY TO
SUPPORT THAT.
OUR TEAM JUST CAME BACK FROM
NIGERIA LAST WEEK THANKS TO A
CAPACITY BUILDING GRANT TO
SUPPORT NIGERIA UNIVERSITIES TO
UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN BETTER
TO PREVENT HIV DISEASE
PREVENTION AND ALSO USE A
COMMUNITY NETWORK TO SOLVE THE
STIGMA ISSUE OF HIV
PRESCREENING.
A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ONE THING
THAT WE TRY TO SOLVE IS THE
MENTALITY ISSUE.
THIS TIES WELL WITH THE THEME
OF TODAY, IS WE'RE HERE TO
CHANGE THE MENTALITY OF THAT
WOMEN CANNOT DO THINGS.
WE CAN WE ABSOLUTELY CAN AND
CAN DO BETTER THAN MEN.
>> LOVE IT.
[APPLAUSE]
>> YEAH, AND IT, THINKING
GROEBLLY AS YOU MENTIONED, ALSO
REQUIRES TO THINK DIFFERENTLY
ABOUT HOW WE CONDUCT THE
SCIENCE THAT KATE MENTIONED AND
RESOURCE LIMITATION THAT'S CAN
PERHAPS EXIST EVEN AS IT
RELATES TO RESEARCH
ADMINISTRATION AND MANAGING THE
GRANTS.
I LOVE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING
THAT TO ATTENTION WHAT WE CAN
LEARN AND THE REACH THAT WE CAN
HAVE IS WORTH ALL OF THAT.
SO YEAH.
YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE OTHER
PIECE THAT THIS MAKES ME
REFLECT ON IN THE WOMEN CAN DO
IT, I THINK YOUNG WOMEN KNOWING
THAT SCIENCE IS ABOUT FAILING
TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING
EXPERIMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE AN
ANSWER AND SO WHEN YOU HIT THAT
FAILED EXPERIMENT THAT MEANS
YOU CAN'T DO IT.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT ALSO,
THE MENTORS AND OTHERS HELP YOU
UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU HAVE THE
RIGHT MENTORS.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
JONI?
ANNICA, YOU HAVE A TOOL OR
TECHNIQUE THAT YOU CAN NOW USE
TO BREAK THE GLASS CEILING OR
CARMAN LINE, WHAT WOULD YOU USE
TO BREAK THE GLASS CEILING OR
CARMANER LINE?
>> OKAY, I'M GOING TO GET VERY
LITERAL ABOUT TOOLS.
>> PUNS ARE COMING.
>> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A TOOL
SO I HAD HUGE DIFFICULT
NARROWING IT DOWN TO ONE, SO
I'M GOING TO PICK A SWISS ARMY
KIND OF TOOL, I BET EACH OF US
BRINGS AN AMAZING TOOL TO THE
TABLE.
BUT I ONAH HIT ON THE FIRST ONE
WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT HER
MENTOR WAS THE FLASHLIGHT, IS
THE FIRST TOOL.
WE HAVE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY
FOR LEADERS TO SHINE A
SPOTLIGHT ON THEM AND HELP THEM
UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WHAT
THEY'RE DOING IS IMPORTANT.
I WILL NEVER FORGET MY FIRST
GRADUATE SCHOOL PRESENTATION AT
A NATIONAL CONFERENCE, I
THOUGHT WHAT IN THE WORLD AM I
DOING HERE.
AND THEN I GAVE THE
PRESENTATION, PEOPLE CLAPPED IT
FELT VERY VALIDATING FOR THE
WORK I WAS DOING.
MY MENTOR IS THE ONE THAT SAID
YOU NEED TO GO TO THIS
CONFERENCE AND YOU NEED TO
PRESENT THIS WORK.
SO THAT SPOTLIGHT WAS VERY
IMPORTANT TO ME SO IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR US TO USE THE
SPOTLIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE BEHIND
US.
NOW THE SECOND TOOL, I WOULD
SAY IS A CHIZLE, SO THERE ARE
CRACKS IN THE CEILING BECAUSE
THERE ARE PEOPLE BEFORE US SO
WE CAN USE THE CHIZLE TO WIDE
WE KNOW THE CRACKS EVEN MORE.
AGAIN, VERY LITERAL BUT THESE
ARE THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED FOR
THE PEOPLE THAT COME BEHIND US
THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO.
THE THIRD TOOL, I'M GOING TO
SAY ARE TWO TOOLS BUT IT'S THE
HAMMER AND THE NAILS OLD SCHOOL
TOOLS.
BUT THE HAMMER AND THE NAILS, I
THINK OF THINGS AS SORT OF VERY
FOUNDATIONAL KIND OF TOOLS.
TRAINING IN HOW TO NEGOTIATE
FOR OPPORTUNITIES HOW TO
NEGOTIATE FOR YOURSELF?
SO THAT YOU CAN NAIL IT WHEN
YOU'RE READY TO GET THERE.
SO HAMMERS AND NAILS.
I THINK ARE ALSO CRITICAL, WE
NEED TO ARM PEOPLE WITH THE
ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE
TOOLS SET TO BE AUTOMOBILE TO
DO THOSE KINDS OF NEGOTIATIONS.
AND MENTORING HELPS TOO, AND
THAT PEER MENTORING THAT WE
TALKED ABOUT BEFORE CAN BE
VALUABLE.
I GUESS THE LAST TOOL THAT I
WILL RELAY IS LIKE A SIGNAL
BOOSTER, THINKING ABOUT THE
NETWORKS THAT CLAIRE YOU TALKED
ABOUT SO ELOQUENTLY.
YOU SIGNAL BAOEFRT, YOU HAVE
ALL THE CONTACTS IN YOUR CELL
PHONE, THE MORE YOU GET OUT NFT
WORLD AND START TALKING ABOUT
THINGS THE THINGS THAT MAKE YOU
PASSIONATE, HAS HOW YOU FIND
THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
CAN THEY CAN HELP YOU GROW TOO.
SO THAT THE SIGNAL BOOSTER IS
THE LAST ONE.
BUT I GUESS I WILL END BY
SAYING THAT IT'S NOT REALLY HOW
THAT WE'RE SHATTERING THE GLASS
CEILING, I THINK THE IMPORTANT
PIECE IS THAT WHENEVER WE DO
WITH THE GLASS CEILING, WE
LEAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE BEHIND
US SO THAT OTHERS CAN GO
THROUGH THAT THE GLASS CEILING
BETTER FASTER AND GO HIGHER AND
I THINK THAT'S REALLY FWEN A
BIG OPPORTUNITY AND
RESPONSIBILITY FOR US AS
LEADERS AND WOMEN IN SCIENCE.
>> WONDERFUL.
THIS IS PART OF TRYING TO BUILD
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALL OF
YOU HERE SPENDING YOUR TIME TO
BE ON THIS PANEL TO SHOWS
OTHERS WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO
PHENOMENALLY.
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A ROUND OF
APPLAUSE.
[APPLAUSE]
WE'RE GOING TO NOW TRANSITION
TO OUR NEXT PANEL, WITH OUR
MODERATOR, OUR CHIEF SCIENTIFIC
OFFICER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
HAVE YOU ALL BEEN NOT JOYING
THE CONVERSATION SO FAR?
[APPLAUSE]
A LOT OF GREAT JEWELS, NUGGETS,
GEMS BEING DROPPED.
I'M THE DR., IT'S HONOR TO
MODERATE OUR SECOND PANEL.
THE FIRST PANEL IS HOW TO
REALLY CRACK THE CEILING.
THIS PANEL WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS
ON SELF AND WHAT IS NECESSARY
TO BALANCE THE EQUATION WEEN
LIFE, SCIENCE AND WELL BEING.
IT FEELS LIKE SCIENCE AND
CAREER EXPLORATION REQUIRES
RELENTLESS DEDICATION AND
AMBITION.
AND FOR MANY WOMEN LEADERS,
THEY FOUND FULFILLMENT TO
PRIORITIZE BOTH CAREER SUCCESS
AND WELL BEING.
WE HAVE ASSEMBLED A STELLAR,
ANOTHER PUN FOR YOU THERE,
PANEL TO BRING THEIR KNOWLEDGE
AND DISCUSS STRATEGIES FOR
MAINTAINING WORK BALANCE AND
EVOLVING TECHNOLOGY AND THE
NEED TO JUGGLE MULTIPLE ROLES.
WE OF COURSE HAVE KATE WHO WILL
BE ON THIS PANEL AS WELL.
WE ALSO HAVE DR. SHELLEY THE
NIMT, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE
MENTAL HEALTH ACTING DIRECTOR.
WE HAVE DR. KIMRYN, NCI THE
NATIONAL INSTITUTE DIRECTOR.
DR. DIANA NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF
HUMAN DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
MS. EVELINA SANTI, EMBASSY
GERMANY AND DR. WEBSTER,
NATIONAL INSTITUTE AND CRANIAL
RESEARCH ACTING DIRECTOR.
SO THANK YOU ALL, PLEASE FEEL
FREE TO HAVE A SEAT.
SO TODAY'S CONVERSATION REALLY
IS GOING TO BE ABOUT WELL BEING
AND MAINTAINING CONNECTIONS
WITH PERSONAL PEOPLE IN OUR
LIVES, AS WELL AS FINDING THAT
BALANCE FOR SUCCESS.
SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS GOING
TO GO TO YOU KATE.
WE HEARD THAT YOU WERE IN SPACE
FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, 3400
DAYS.
HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN CONNECTIONS
TO YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS
WHILE YOU'RE AWAY FOR EXTENDED
PERIODS, FOR EXAMPLE, CAN YOU
USE WHATS APP IN OUT OF SPACE?
>> WE CAN NOW.
WE WOULD REMOTELY CONTROL A
CITRIC IT WAS A SPACE LIKE THE
80s MODE UM.
SO I--MODEM.
SO THEN DID NOT USE THE
INTERNET.
AT MY SECOND FLIGHT, THEY DID
AN NETWORK THAT WAS SEPARATE
WAS THIS WAS ALL CYBERSECURITY.
THE VOIP CALLS, WE COULD TALK
BY VOICE BUT IN REALITY WORKING
124-14 HOURS A DAY SO THERE WAS
NO TIME SO WE WOULD HAVE ONCE A
WEEK CALL WITH YOUR FAMILY
MEMBERS AND THAT WAS SO
IMPORTANT, BUT IT WOULD BE
PLAGUED WITH COMMUNICATION AND
ISSUES.
SO NOW NASA WE HAVE A
BEHAVIORAL MENTAL HEALTH UNIT
AND THEY'VE ARRANGED SO WE CAN
HAVE THAT VIDEO CALL ACCESS TO
OUR FAMILIES ANYTIME.
AND SO, WE, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU
CAN'T JUST TEXTING ASTRONAUT,
THE CONNECTION HAS TO BE
INITIALED BUT WE DO HAVE MORE
OF THESE TOOLS AND IT IS SO
IMPORTANT.
I THINK WE ALL FELT THIS DURING
THE PANDEMIC HOW QUICKLY YOU
CAN GET ISOLATED, HOW IMPORTANT
THAT HUMAN CONNECTION IS.
AND SOMETIMES I GET OVERWHELMED
AND I JUST WANT TO GO AND LAY
ON ANY COACH AND NOT SEE MY
FRIENDS BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE
IT TAKES ENERGY BUT I THINK
IT'S SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
FOR US TO MAINTAIN THE SOCIAL
CONNECTIONS.
WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT NETWORKS
AND MAINTAINING THE SCIENTIFIC
NETWORK AND BEING WITH OTHER
PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND WHO YOU
ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING
THROUGH.
SO WHETHER OTHER IN YOU'RE
SPACE OR IN A SCIENTIFIC LAB ON
EARTH THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
>> THANK YOU AND I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE EVOLUTION OF
PRIORITIZING MENTAL HEALTH,
WELL BEING AND ORGANIZATIONS
SUPPORTING THAT.
SO I LOVE HEARING THAT YOU HAVE
MORE FREQUENT COMMUNICATION AND
THE ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH
LOVED ONES AND FRIENDS, LOVELY
TO HEAR, THANK YOU.
SOL TO YOU SHELLI, HIGH STAKES
CAREER BRING BOTH PASSION AND
PLEASURE.
CAN YOU SHARE A DEFINING THAT
YOU HAD TO RETHINK APPROACH.
>> THANK YOU.
THANKS SO MUCH.
WORKING AT THE NATIONAL
INSTITUTE OF HEALTH MY PASSION
AND DRIVE IS FUELLED BY THE
MISSION AND THE ABSOLUTE NEED
TO ADDRESS THE MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS IN OUR NATION.
THE PANDEMIC SPOTLIGHTED THAT
BUT WE KNEW THAT WAS A PROBLEM
LONG BEFORE THAT.
I KNOW HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
IT IS TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF
AND YOUR FAMILY, YOUR LOVED
ONES.
SO I THINK THERE IS REALLY TWO
DEFINING MOMENTS IN MY CAREER,
MOST OF US SCIENTIST CAN'T
FOLLOW DIRECTIONS.
SO THE FIRST ONE FOCUSES ON
WHEN I WAS ASKED TO BE THE
ACTING DEPUTY DIRECTOR NINE
YEARS AGO AND THE SECOND DURING
PANDEMIC WHICH I THINK MANY OF
US CAN RELATE TO.
SO FOR THE FIRST ONE, IT WAS
STILL FAIRY EARLIER IN MY
CAREER WHEN I WAS ASKED TO BE
THE ACTING DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
AND I WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT
IT, IT WAS REAL A ONCE IN A
LIFE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ON
THAT ROLE BUT ALSO OCCURED AT A
TIME WHEN I HAD A YOUNG FAMILY
AT HOME AND I WAS VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABILITY TO
DO BOTH WELL AT THE JOB BUT
ALSO DO RIGHT BY MY FAMILY.
AND THE WAY IMAN AJD THROUGH
THAT WAS TO WORK WITH THE
ACTING DIRECTOR AT THE TIME AND
NEGOTIATE WHAT THAT WOULD NEED
TO LOOK LIKE FOR ME TO BE ABLE
TO TAKE ON THAT ROLE.
AND I WAS VERY FORTUNATE THAT
HE WAS FLEXIBLE AND ALSO VALUED
FAMILY AND BALANCE AND WE WERE
ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WHAT THAT MAY
LOOK LUKE SO I CAN GO ON FIELD
TRIPS WERE MY KIDS I CAN TAKE
CARE OF THEM WHEN THEY WERE
SICK ET CETERA.
THE SECOND TIME DURING THE
PANDEMIC AS I SAID I THINK WE
CAN ALL RELATE BECAUSE THIS WAS
A TIME WHEN WE WERE NOT ONLY
NEGOTIATING OUR REGULAR WORK
LOADS BUT TAKING ON MORE STRESS
AROUND ADJUSTING TO THE NEW
NORMAL BOTH OUTSIDE OF THE
WORKPLACE AND RETURN BACK ON
THE WORKPLACE ON TOP OF THAT
MANY OF US WERE WORKING ON
COVID-19 SPECIFIC PROJECT.
SO THE WORKLOAD IT INCREASED
EXPONENTIALLY AND THE WORKLOAD
HAD INCREASED EXPONENTIAL AND
MANY OF US WOULD NOT LEAVE OUR
COMPUTER SO WE JUST KEPT
DRIVING.
AND AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT'S NOT
RIGHT FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND
THERE NEEDS TO BE A LEVEL OF
BALANCE.
I DID MANY THINGS DURING THAT
PERIOD BUT ONE OF THE MOST
IMPACTFUL THING WAS WORK
WITHING NIH HOW WE AS AN
ORGANIZATION CAN SUPPORT MENTAL
HEALTH COLLECTIVELY.
WE DID THINGS THAT ENHANCE
CONNECTION, VIRTUAL WATER,
COOLERS, ALL HANDS MEETINGS
WAYS TO BRING OURSELVES
TOGETHER THAT HAD LIGHTER
COMPONENT NOT JUST WORK
COMPONENTS FOCUSED ON THAT.
AND ALSO WAYS THAT WE HAD TO
HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE FOR
TAKING BREAKS, ENCOURAGING EACH
OTHER TO TAKE WALKS AROUND THE
BLOCK WHEN WE WERE ALL WORKING
AT HOME.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE
EXAMPLES HOW WRE NAVIGATED THAT.
>> WOW, I APPRECIATE THE
THROUGH LINE WHICH FOR ME WAS
ADVOCACY, FIRST SCENARIO WAS
REALLY ADVOCATING FOR YOURSELF,
ADVOCATING ABOUT YOUR NEEDS,
WHAT WAS NEEDING FOR BOTH ROLES
BOTH PRO PETION AL AND PERSONAL.
AND THE SECOND EXAMPLE YOU TALK
ABOUT ADVOCATING FOR OTHERS AND
STAFF AND THE WELL BEING OF THE
ORGANIZATION.
I THINK THAT FOLDS NICELY INTO
THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
NETWORKING, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
AROUND YOU AND HOW IMPORTANT
THEY PLAY IN CREATING SPACE FOR
YOU, THANK YOU FOR SHARING
THOSE.
OKAY, WELL WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
KIMRYN, AS YOU HEARD JUST
HEARD, IT'S EASY TO NORMALIZE
THE WORK IN OUR FIELDS SO. WHAT
IS A STRATEGY TO USE TO RESIST
THIS CULTURE OF ALWAYS ON?
AND HOW HAS IT IMPACTED YOUR
APPROACH TO LEADERSHIP?
>> YE, I'LL TELL YOU I'M AS
GUILTY AS ANYONE OF THIS
PHENOMENON AND I'M NOT SURE I'M
GOING TO TELL YOU A STRATEGY
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A STORY
INSTEAD.
FIRST, I DO THINK THAT IN THESE
CAREERS THERE IS A LITTLE BIT
OF A FALLACY THAT THERE IS WORK
AND LIFE, WE LEARN AND ADOPT TO
HOW TO TAKE CARE OF OUR WORK
AND OUR WORK FAMILY AND OUR
FAMILY AND OUR LIVES, ALL, ALL
AT THE SAME TIME THAT'S OUR
SUPER POWER, RIGHT.
BUT WE DEFINITELY FORGET TO
TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES, OKAY.
SO SO I HAVE A BANDAGE ON MY
HEAD AND I HAD A RESENT JURY
AND IT WAS A FALL, PRETTY BAD
FALL, STITCHES CONCUSSION, I
WAS IN THE MID-APPROXIMATELY OF
A MULTI PART TRIP AND I GOT
STITCHED UP WENT RIGHT BACK TO
MY MEETING, DID MY MEETING AND
THE NEXT THING I WANT TODAY DO
FELT PRETTY IMPORTANT, WENT TO
THE NEXT CITY, WORE SUNGLASSES
CAUSE NOW I HAD BLACK EYES,
NEXT DAY FLEW TO ANOTHER CITY
GAVE MY TALK.
I DID TAKE ONE DAY OFF BECAUSE
THE NEXT DAY WAS A GALA AND BY
THIS TIME IT WAS BLACK AND
BLUE, MY WHOLE FACE, THAT'S
WHAT IT TAKES FOR ME NOT TO DO
A TALK.
THE NEXT DAY, I WORE A MASK
BECAUSE I'M BLACK AND BLUE ON
MY FACE AND GAVE THAT TALK AND
CAME BACK HERE EXHAUSTED AND
ALMOST COLLAPSED IN A MEETING.
AND MIA SISTER --ASSISTANT
CLEARED MY SCHEDULE.
AND I REALIZE, I DIDN'T HAVE TO
GIVE THOSE TALKS FIRST OF ALL
AND I SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKING
CARE OF MYSELF.
IN THE WEEK THAT I TOOK TO
RECOVER, I HAD TIME TO THINK A
LITTLE BIT.
I COULDN'T LOOK AT THINGS SO I
LISTENED TO AUDIO BOOKS AND I
BROUGHT THINGS FROM THE AUDIO
BOOKS BACK TO WORK.
WE DON'T SLOW DOWN, EVEN WHEN
WE'RE LAYING DOWN, I KNOW NONE
OF US DO.
BUT TAKING CARE OF OURSELVES
CAN REALLY REALLY HELP.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE TO
TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES IN ORDER
TO DO OUR WORK WELL.
SO IF WHAT WE VALUE IS WHAT
WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TAKING CARE
OF OURSELVES IS NUMBER ONE.
THE NUMBER TWO, IT'S NOT JUST
ON US TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES.
ONCE I GOT BACK, THE CHIEF OF
STAFF, THE THING SHE SAID WAS I
DON'T TRUST YOU ANYMORE.
I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO TELL YOU
WHAT TO DO NOW, BECAUSE YOU
WON'T TELL ME.
SO SHE TOOK CARE OF ME AND THEN
PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE TOOK CARE
OF ME.
AND THE OUT POURING OF PEOPLE
AT THE NCI OF SUPPORT,
ENCOURAGEMENT, THAT WAS MORE
THERAPEUTIC, I WOULD NOT HAVE
HAD THAT IF I HAD NOT SHARED,
THEY ALL TAKE CARE OF US AS
WELL.
AND THE LAST THING THAT I
THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE, IS AN
OLD STORY WHEN I WAS MOVING
INTO LEADERSHIP AND THIS MENTOR
SAID, WELL YOU AT SOME POINT
YOU HAD TO BUMMED SOME SCAR
TISSUE, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS
IS.
I'M REALLY PROUD OF SCARS THAT
I'VE EARNED AND WILL KEEP, NOT
THAT I'M OVERLY TOUGH ABOUT IT,
BUT THIS IS LIFE AND WE HAVE TO
GET THERE WHATEVER WAY THAT IT
TAKES.
BUT TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES AND
LET OTHERS TAKE CARE OF
OURSELVES AND APPRECIATE THAT
THIS LIFE IS INTERESTING.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TRANSPARENCY AND
VULNERABILITY.
FOR YOU TO DO THAT ON THIS
STAGE IS MODELING OF WHAT WE'RE
HOPING TO ACHIEVE ACROSS AN
ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS ONE
ANOTHER.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR SHARING
YOUR STORY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON DOWN,
DIANA, AS THE DEMANDS ON
LEADERS CONTINUE TO GROW, DO
YOU ANTICIPATE NEW CHALLENGES
IN SETTING HEALTHY BOUNDARIES
FOR WORK PARTICULARLY WOMEN
THAT BALANCE MULTIPLE ROLES.
IF THEN, HOW CAN THEY SUPPORT
PRACTICES IN HIGH STAKE FIELDS.
>> I HAVE TO CONFESS T I SHARE
A LOT WITH KIMRYN, I BROKE MY
ARM IN THE SIMILAR CONFERENCE
ROOM AND WAS EXTREME PAIN AND
GAVE A WALK THAT AFTERNOON, NOT
REALIZING, I KNEW SOMETHING BAD
HAD HAPPENED AND THEY WERE
WAITING FOR ME.
WE ALL HAVE THE SENSE WE HAVE
TO BE PERFECT, WE CAN'T ADMIT
VULNERABILITY AND WE ABSOLUTELY
HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE POSITIONS OF
RESPONSIBILITY, WE ARE LEADERS,
WE ARE ROLE MOTED ELZ AND ONE
OF THE PRIVILEGES WE HAVE IN
OUR POSITION IS THAT WE CAN SET
NEW POLICIES.
SO AT THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF
CHILD HEALTH AND HUMAN
DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE A NO-EMAIL
RULE OVER THE WEEKEND.
THE NIH CULTURE ESPECIALLY POST
PANDEMIC IS VERY HEAVY IN TERMS
OF EMAILS, I THINK THAT MOST
PEOPLE WILL ADMIT THAT IT'S
LIKE A SECOND JOB.
AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT
YOU CAN DO TO STEM THE TIED,
IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE'S
MENTAL HEALTH.
SO WE HAVE SAID FEEL FREE TO
HAVE THE EMAIL AND HAVE IT
AUTOMATED TO SEND ON MONDAY BUT
TRY TO SET THAT BOUNDARY WHERE
YOU CAN HAVE A MOMENT TO BREATH.
YOU CAN BE WITH YOUR FAMILY,
YOU CAN DO THINGS THAT YOU LIKE
TO DO.
YOU CAN GO FOR A HIKE.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE, IT WORKS
VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR OUR
INSTITUTE BUT WE'RE ONE OF 247
INSTITUTE SO OTHER INSTITUTES
WILL SEND EMAILS OVER THE
WEEKEND.
[LAUGHTER]
THE OTHER THING THAT WE DO IS
WE HAVE NO MEETING WEEKS,
BECAUSE AGAIN, MEETINGS TAKE UP
A LOT OF OUR TIME AND PEOPLE
FEEL OVERWHELMED AND ANXIOUS
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST NEED
THAT TIME TO CATCH UP.
SO WE HAVE FOUR WEEKS DURING
THE YEAR AND WE ALSO USE THAT
MEETING WEEK AS A REWARD IF
PEOPLE FILLED OUT THEIR FEB
SURVEYS SO IF WE GET A CERTAIN
PERCENTAGE OF RESPONSES, THEN
WE'LL GIVE THEM ANOTHER WEEK.
SO IT'S, IT'S A SMALL BUT
IMPORTANT WAY OF SHOWING THAT
WE CARE, WE'RE AWARE OF MANY
DEMANDS ON YOUR TIME AND WE
WANT TO MINIMIZE THEM IF
POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW, FROM A PERSONAL
PERSPECTIVE, I, I CAN'T SAY
THAT I'M THE BEST EXAMPLE WHEN
I GOT MARRIED TO MY HUSBAND, I
SAID TO HIM, YOU HAVE TO
REALIZE THAT FOR ME WORK IS
PLAY.
I HAVE LOTS OF HOBBIES, I DO
OTHER THINGS BUT I REALLY ENJOY
WORK.
I LOVE WHAT I DO, I HAVE A
RESEARCH LABORATORY IN ADDITION
TO DIRECTING THE INSTITUTE.
AND FOR ME, A LOT OF THE WORK
THAT I DO WITH MY LAB, THAT'S
ONE OF MY HOBBIES, IT IS JUST
VERY ENJOYABLE.
I WASN'T ASKED THIS QUESTION
BUT EVERYBODY IS GIVING
LIFELESS ONS AND I DO WANT TO
LIVE ONE LIFE LESSON WHICH
COMES FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
AND THAT'S THAT WE TEND TO BE
PERFECTIONIST, WE HAVE NOT
GOTTEN WHERE WE ARE WITHOUT
BEING HIGH ACHIEVERS AND HAVING
EXTREMELY HIGH STANDARDS FOR
OURSELVES.
SO MY ADVISE IS TO RELAX A
LITTLE BIT AND THE EXAMPLE I'M
GOING TO GIVE, THE STORY I'M
GOING TO TELL, IS I WAS A
KEYNOTE SPEAKER AT A CONFERENCE
IN SOUTH KOREA.
AND I WAS PLACED AT THE GALA
DINNER AT A TABLE OF MEN EVEN
THOUGH THERE WERE PROFESSORS
WHO WERE WOMEN BUT THEY WERE AT
ANOTHER TABLE AND THEN THE
KAREOKE STARTED.
AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THERE
WAS AN EXPECTATION THAT I WAS
GOING TO HAVE TO DO KAREOKE AND
I CANNOT SING, PEOPLE KNOW THAT
I CANNOT SING.
WHILE SOME OF THE OTHER INVITED
SPEAKERS WENT AND THEY WERE ALL
MEN AND THEY WERE NOT REALLY
GOOD.
AND I WAS LIKE TOTALLY FREAKED
OUT, I HAD NEVER DONE KAREOKE
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?
AND THEY GAVE THESE BIG
INVOLVES OF SONGS SO WHILE WE
WERE EATING DINNER WE COULD
PICK A SONG.
SO I PICKED MAMA MIA I FIGURED
NOBODY IS GOING TO REMEMBER
ANYWAY.
AND I THOUGHT, OH I'M GOING TO
EMBARRASS MYSELF.
AND THE THING WENT AND I HAD
DEFINITELY NOT HAD ENOUGH TO
DRINK AT THAT POINT BUT
EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE
HAD.
AND THAT'S THE LESSON, A COUPLE
OF LINES INTO MAMA MIA, I
TOTALLY RELAXED, AND I THOUGHT
THIS IS A CULTURAL, PEOPLE ARE
DRUNK THEY'RE NOT GOING TO
REMEMBER THIS ANYWAY.
AND YOU KNOW, JUST GO WITH THE
FLOW.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT
AND I'VE TAKEN THAT LESSON AND
THEN, PLAYED IT FORWARD TO
EVERYONE.
>> OH, I LOVE THAT.
WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOME KAREOKE
AFTER THAT.
BUT I LOVE THE CULTURE SHIFS
SHIFTS THAT YOU TALKED THAT AND
SAID THAT THEY WERE SMALL AND
IMPORTANT, I'M GOING TO ADD
ANOTHER WORD, INTENTIONAL.
SETTING EXPECTATION AND
INTENTION AND TALK ABOUT WHAT
YOU ALL VALUE IN YOUR INSTITUTE.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT IT WAS
WELL RECEIVED AND TOOK SOME
TIME TO ADJUST BUT DEFINITELY
WELL RECEIVED.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO
KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING TO
ELENA, YOU ONLY NOT MANAGE HIGH
PRESSURE SITUATIONS BUT NEED TO
COMMUNICATE WITH GRACE AND
CLARITY.
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT WHAT YOU DO
AND DO YOU FIND IT TO BE AN
ESSENTIAL TOOL FOR MANAGING
STRESS?
>> WELL THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION AND THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME TO BE HERE ON A PANEL
WITH SO MANY INSPIRING FEMALE
LEADERS.
I THINK THE QUESTION, LET'S
START, LET ME START WITH AN
ANALOGY, COMMUNICATION IS SO
IMPORTANT AS FOR A COOK.
SO YOU CANNOT DO YOUR JOB
WITHOUT COMMUNICATION.
I COMMUNICATE 495 PERCENT OF MY
TIME TO MY CAPITOL, TO U.S.
STAKEHOLDERS TO SCIENCE,
FELLOWS, IT IS WHAT I DO, BUT
COMMUNICATE I WOULD ADD TWO
MORE ASPECTS TO IT, ALSO
TRANSLATION OR INTERPRETATION.
SO IT'S NOT JUST WHAT YOU
COMMUNICATE BUT AS A
INTERPRETER OF THINGS, SO YOU
IT'S ABOUT ALSO WHY SOMETHING
COMMUNICATED, HOW IS IT
COMMUNICATED, THAT'S HOW YOU
COME INTO PLAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO
TRANSLATE FROM YOUR CAPITOL
HERE TO WHERE YOU ARE LOCATED.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SENSE OF
CULTURAL, HISTORICAL, POLITICAL
CONTEXT WHERE YOU ARE TO GIVE A
GOOD COMMUNICATION.
SO I SEE MYSELF MORE AS AN
INTERPRETER THAN A COMMUNICATOR
AN INTERPRETER BEFORE THE ROLES
AND THAT LEADS ME TO YOUR
SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION HOW
DOES IT HELP ME TO MANAGE
STRESS.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO REALLY LIKE
WHAT YOU DO.
AND EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE DONE
HAS BROUGHT ME INTO THAT
POSITION AND THAT'S HOW IMANAGE
STRESS.
IF I IT IS NOT PART OF MY
PERSONALITY, I COULDN'T BE HERE.
I COULDN'T CHOOSE THAT PATH
CONSCIOUSLY OR SUBCONSCIOUSLY.
I'M AN IMMIGRANT CHILD, I HAD
TO TRANSLATE FOR MY PARENT IN A
SOCIETY THAT WAS NOT THEIRS.
I WAS THE FIRST TO STUDY IN MY
FAMILY.
SO I HAD TWO WORLDS, THE
PROFESSIONAL AND THE PRIVATE
WORLD WHERE I USE DIFFERENT
LANGUAGES.
AND LANGUAGES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
MY INTEREST, LIKE MY PASSION,
MY MASTER IN EURO BIOLOGY, I
SPEAK SIX LANGUAGES BECAUSE I
ALWAYS THOUGHT IT'S IMPORTANT
TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE WHERE YOU
ARE AND I ALWAYS SOUGHT
PROFESSIONAL WHERE I CAN
CHALLENGE MYSELF WITH DIFFERENT
CULTURES AND DIFFERENT
LANGUAGES AND DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES, I WORKED FOR
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, NOT ONLY
FOR THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT I'M
ALSO AUSTRIAN AND MEXICAN
GOVERNMENT, VERY EUROPEAN STORY
PROBABLY, BUT I JUST WANT TO
SAY THAT IT'S, IT HAS TO BE AN
INTEGRAL PART OF YOURSELF AND
THAT'S HOW YOU ALSO MANAGE
STRESS BY IF IT'S PART OF
YOURSELF IT HELPS TO MANAGE
STRESS.
BUT ALSO TIMES WHEN I COME BACK
HOME AND MY HUSBAND ASKED ME TO
TALK ABOUT MY DAY AND I SAY,
GIVE ME TEN MINUTES, BECAUSE I
CAN'T.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE OTHER
VENUES OF WHAT YOU LIKE TO DO
TO JUST UNWIND OR DECOMPENSATE
HOW DO YOU SAY, DECOMPRESS?
I'M A PHOTOGRAPHER, I TRY OTHER
WAYS TO EXPRESS WHAT MY NEED
FOR COMMUNICATION.
>> I LOVE HEARING ONE THAT YOU
USE ART AS A MEANS FOR
COMMUNICATION, I'M ALSO A
FELLOW ARTIST SO I LOVE
COMMUNICATING THROUGH WORK AS
WELL.
IT'S JUST THE INTERPRETATION
PIECE, THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO
VIEW IT, THAT YOU'RE REALLY
TRANSLATING THAT MESSAGE TO
REACH A WIDE BROAD SET OF
AUDIENCES AND MAKE SURE THAT
THEY'RE IMPACTINGED BY THE
DIALOGUE.
THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING
THOSE IMPORTANT PARTS.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT DOWN TO
JENNIFER.
SO WE HEARD ABOUT SOME HOBBIES
BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU WHAT
HOBBIES OR INTEREST DO YOU
PURSUE DURING YOUR DOWN TIME
AND HOW DO THEY HELP YOU
RECHARGE?
>> SO I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE
BIT OFF SCRIPT LIKE EVERYBODY
ELSE.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT BALANCE,
IT'S A PERSONAL THING.
I WAS IN ACADEMIC FOR A LONG
TIME, I HAD THREE JOBS, A
DENTIST AND VIROLOGIST AND
BEING A MOM.
IT'S DETERMINING WHAT YOU
VALLEY AND NOT ALLOWING OTHER
PEOPLE TO SET LIMITS ON WHAT
YOUR VALUES ARE AND IN THOSE
VALUES, IT'S WHAT YOU CARE
ABOUT AND WHAT YOU LIKE IN
TERMS OF YOUR HOBBIES AND
TAKING TIME TO DO THOSE THINGS
AND THINGS THAT YOU LOVE.
AND THOSE THINGS ALLOW YOU TO
SET WHAT YOUR PRIORITY ARE AND
THAT PRIORITY SETS YOUR TIME.
SO DURING THAT TIME, I SET
TIME, I REALLY LOVE IT, OKAY, I
LOVE MUSIC, I LOVE ART, I LOVE
TO READ.
SO THOSE, I LOVE TO DANCE TOO.
AND I JUST LIKE, I LIKE PEOPLE
SO I LIKE TO BE WITH OTHER
PEOPLE.
AND EXPERIENCE THEM AND
EXPERIENCE DIFFERENT CULTURES
AND SO.
I THINK MAKING THE TIME TO DO
THOSE THINGS AND MAKING SURE
THAT'S PART OF YOUR VALUE
SYSTEM HELPS YOU SET IT AS A
PRIORITY IN AND AMONG ALL OF
THESE MANY MANY THINGS THAT YOU
DO.
AND MAYBE WE CAN EVEN INTEGRATE
THESE THINGS.
SO I THINK IT'S TAKING THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND OTHER
PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO DO THOSE
THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH
THEM BUT ALSO NOT TO ALLOW
OTHER PEOPLE TO SET FOR YOU, OH
YOU CAN'T DO THAT, YOU
SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT OR YOU
DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT,
HUH-UH, OKAY.
I THINK THAT IS THE KEY.
AND FOR ME I LIKE TO DO A LOT
OF THINGS.
DO I GET TO DO ALL OF THEM AS
MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE?
NO, BECAUSE I PRIORITIZED OTHER
THINGS THAT I LOVE RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK THAT IS THE KEY.
>> THANK YOU AND YEAH, THAT
TIME MANAGEMENT IS ESSENTIAL IN
HAVING A CLEARVIEW OF YOUR
PRIORITIES AND FITTING THEM IN,
WILL HELP YOU ACHIEVE THAT
HARMONY THAT WE'RE SEEKING
BETWEEN WORK AND LIFE.
OKAY, I WANT TO THROW IT BACK
TO YOU, AGAIN, 3400 DAYS.
WHAT WERE YOUR HOBBIES IN SPACE.
>> THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION.
SO I REALLY LOVE YOUR
PHOTOGRAPHER BECAUSE IF YOU'RE
NOT A PHOTOGRAPHER AND GO TO
SPACE, YOU IMMEDIATELY TURN
INTO A PHOTOGRAPHER, THEY HAVE
AMAZING CAMERAS, WE DO
PHOTOGRAPHY FOR SCIENCE AS WELL.
IT'S REALLY SAD BUT WE'RE
ACTUALLY DOCUMENTING THE
ENVIRONMENTAL DEMANDS, WE CAN
PHOTO GLADIER,S, IF THERE IS A
PLACE EXPERIENCING FLOODING WE
CAN PHOTO THAT BUT THE BEST
PLACES IN THE WORLD.
IT'S A REALLY NEAT EXPERIENCE
TO EXPERIENCE A COUNTRY THROUGH
A LENS.
WE GET COOL LENSES LIKE THE
FOOTBALL PHOTOGRAPHERS HAVE.
IT'S EASY TO MANIPULATE THEM.
YOU LOVE THAT YOU SAY YOU LOVE
PEOPLE, WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM
VERY DIFFICULT CULTURES AND WE
DO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER
BEFORE WE FLY.
BUT WHEN THERE IS THAT TIME, ON
BOARD WE'RE EATING DINNER
TOGETHER, WE LEARN ABOUT EACH
OTHER, WE LEARN ABOUT OTHER'S
FAMILIES AND WE SUPPORT EACH
OTHER.
THAT'S SO IMPORTANT, SO A HOBBY
HANGING OUT WITH PEOPLE, AND
GETTING TO KNOW THEM OVER
DINNER, IT'S A GREAT HOBBY.
I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO
CONNECT WITH THE WORLD.
SOME PEOPLE IN THE STATION,
PLAY THE GUITAR, THERE IS A
GUITAR UP.
THERE I DID SCIENCE AS A HOBBY,
I BROUGHT IN MY PSYCHOLOGICAL
SUPPORT, I BROUGHT PIPE PETTING
IN SPACE AND MADE SOME VIDEOS
TO SEND BACK DOWN TO THE GROUND.
WE WE MADE UP A GAME, WE WOULD
INVENT A RULE, WE DIDN'T HAVE A
TEAM TO PLAY AGAINST, BUT WE
CAN DECIDED THAT WE WON AND WE
WERE THE INTER GA LAXIC FOOTAGE
THAT'S WHAT YOU DO IN SPACE.
>> I LOVE IT.
DEFINITELY A TITLE TO CARRY
WITH YOU.
AND I LOVE HEARING JUST THROUGH
ALL OF YOU, NOT ONLY HOW
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY AND
NETWORKS ARE FOR PROFESSIONAL
BUT FOR YOUR PERSONAL WELL
BEING AS WELL.
CHECKING ON YOU WHENEVER YOU
MIGHT NEED SOMEBODY TO CHECK ON
YOU OR RECHARGE AND LEARNING AS
OTHER PEOPLE AS A WAY TO REALLY
REFUEL YOURSELF.
I LOVE HEARING THAT COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME IN
FIELDS WHERE THERE IS AN
EXPECTATION OF RELENTLESS
PURSUIT, HOW DO YOU PERSONALLY
NAVIGATE THE TENSION BETWEEN
AMBITION AND THE NEED FOR
PERSONAL WELL BEING.
>> THANKS, I THINK THAT THIS IS
A THEME RUNNING THROUGH A LOT
OF WHAT WE SAID.
BALANCE SHOULD NOT ADD STRESS.
AND I THINK OF ALL OF THOSE
FUNNY VIDEOS ONLINE THAT YOU
SEE WOMEN TALKING ABOUT I'VE
GOT TO BE A PERFECT MOM, I'VE
GOT TO GET PEOPLE HERE AND
THERE AND EXCEL AT MY JOB AND
COUNT MY PROTEIN INTAKE AND
FIBER INTAKE.
AND THE REALITY IS YOU CANNOT
DO EVERYTHING WELL.
SO FINDING THINGS THAT DON'T
CAUSES YOU SFRES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WORKS
WELL FOR ME IS I EXERCISE EVERY
MORNING AND THAT MAY BE TEN
MINUTES OF STRETCHING, IT MAY
BE AN HOUR LONG WORKOUT AND I
VARY IT AND IT DEPENDS ON MIO
BLIGATIONS.
THERE IS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
THAT SHOW THAT WORKING OUT,
DOING EXERCISE HELPS YOU MANAGE
ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION.
FOR ME IT GIVES ME A SENSE OF
ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THE DAY.
SO EVEN IF I DIDN'T DO
ANYTHING, YOU DID DO MY
EXERCISE FOR THE DAY.
AND IT ALSO GIVES ME IT
RELIEVES STRESS, SO IT ONE LESS
THING I HAVE TO FIND TIME FOR.
THE OTHER THING IS YOU HAVE TO
HAVE SOME DOWN TIME DOING
THINGS YOU ENJOY AND MAYBE
THAT'S WORKING ON A WORK
PROJECT THAT YOU'RE REALLY
ENTHUSIASTIC OR IT'S REALLY I
REALLY NEED ONE DAY OTHER THAN
CHECKING FOR EMERGENCIES ON
EMAIL, I DON'T RESPOND TO EMAIL.
WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU.
AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT BALANCE
AT A HIGH LEVEL AT A 140,000
FOOT, YOU CAN'T FIND BALANCE IN
EVERYDAY, YOU MIGHT NOT FIND IT
IN EVERY WEEK BUT CREATING
SPACES FOR BALANCE.
SCHEDULING A LONG WEEKEND AFTER
YOU KNOW WILL BE A VERY BRUS'
MONTH.
>> I LOVE T I LOVE IT.
WE'RE JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME.
THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING, SO
MANY GREAT TIPS, SOME KIND OF
COMMON THEMES THAT I HEARD
THROUGHOUT TODAY'S
CONVERSATION, FINDING THAT
BALANCE, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
ADVOCATING FOR OURSELVES AND
OTHERS COMMUNICATING OUR NEEDS
AND REALLY CONNECTING WITH
COMMUNITIES TO FILL OUR CUPS.
AND SO WE THANK YOU ALL FOR
SHARING THESE GEMS WITH OUR
AUDIENCE AND WE'RE GOING TO GET
READY TO TRANSITION FOR OUR
NEXT PANEL.
BUT IF YOU CAN JOIN ME IN
GIVING A GREAT ROUND OF
APPLAUSE FOR OUR PANELS.
FOR OUR THIRD THAN HE WILL, I'M
GOING TO WELCOME DR. CUTTER
BACK ON STAGE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
>> WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT WAS FANTASTIC, THEY'VE ALL
BEEN FANTASTIC PANELS.
AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
OUR THIRD PANEL TO OUR STAGE.
THIS LAST SESSION IS ON WOMEN,
THE NEXT HORIZON AND THAT'S
REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT WHEN PIONEERING SCIENCE
AND INNOVATION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO THE
FUTURE.
WITH THAT I'M GOING TO MODERATE
THIS ONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE DR.
SHANNONZENK.
DR. GUYADER.
DR. JEANNE MARRAZZO, NATIONAL
DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL.
AND GIUSI, EMBASSY OFITY TEE.
--ITALY.
THANK YOU.
WELCOME TO THE CHAIRS.
ALL RIGHT, AS PER TRADITION, WE
ARE GOING TO START OUR FIRST
QUESTION FOR KATE.
SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
INNOVATION AND THAT MADE ME
THINK ABOUT SPACE SUITS.
HISTORICALLY I IMAGINE SPACE
SUITS ARE DESIGNED FOR MEN HOW
ARE THEY BEING DESIGNED FOR
WOMEN AND DO YOU SEE NASA.
>> IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT MY
FAVORITE QUESTIONS ARE.
NASA SPACE SUITS ARE MORE THAN
40 YEARS OLD, AND IT WAS MEN.
IT WAS CONCEIVED THAT THEY
WOULD BE EXTRA SMALL, SMALL
MEDIUM AND LARGE AND EXTRA
LARGE.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT BUILDING A
SMALL SUIT AND NOT EVEN EXTRA
SMALL AND THERE IS SOME
ENGINEERING CHALLENGES WITH
THAT.
AND THEY DECIDED THEY HAD TO
BUILD A EXTRA LARGE BECAUSE
THERE WERE A LOT OF MEN THAT
DID NOT FIT IN THE EXTRA LARGE.
BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE TO BUILD
THE SMALL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
HAVE WOMEN.
WHEN I CAME INTO THE OFFICE,
THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF
WEIRDNESS ABOUT BEING A FEMALE
IT WAS A MALE DOMINATED BUT
HEY, YOU'RE EXPECT TODAY
SUCCEED AND WE SUPPORT YOU WITH
THE EXCEPTION OF SPACE WALKING.
THEY'RE LIKE, WOMEN DON'T
REALLY BE SPACE WALKS AND TO BE
FAIR, I WAS THE 140th WOMEN TO
BE A SPACE WALK AND I JOINED
THE SPACE PROGRAM IN 2009.
SO THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF
WOMEN THAT HAD DONE SPACE WALKS
AND IT WAS EXPECTED THAT WE
WOULD FAIL AND THEY WOULD THROW
US IN THE SPACE WALK AND GIVE
US ABOUT FOUR SESSIONS AND KIND
OF JUDGE IMMEDIATELY AND BE
JUST, WE THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING
TO BE GOOD AND IT TURNS OUT
YOU'RE NOT GOOD.
THIS WAS REALLY ROUGH AND IT
MADE ME REALLY MAD, THIS WAS
THE WRONG THING TO TELL ME,
IT'S LIKE THROWING RED MEAT AT
THE LION.
SO GOOD FOR ME, BECAUSE I MAYBE
WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SO HARD
CHARGING.
I DID FOUR WALKS AND WHEN I GOT
BACK, SAID, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT
JOB AT YOUR SPACE WALKS, I
WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE THE FIRST
FEMALE SPACE WALK BRANCH CHIEF.
AND WHAT I WAS ABLE TO DO WITH
THAT IS CHANGE THE CONVERSATION
AROUND SPACE SUITS AND YOU
KNOW, RATHER THAN SAYING, THE
WOMEN CAN'T BE IN THE SPACE
SUIT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE
UPPER BODY STRENGTH.
IT WAS NO THE EQUIPMENT DOES
NOT FIT US.
SO WHEN YOU CHANGE THAT
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS
GOING ON SYSTEM YOU CANLY AND
INSTITUTIONALLY THAT CAN REALLY
DRIVE THE INNOVATION FORWARD.
SO IF I SAY, YOU'RE NOT IN A
SPACE WALK BECAUSE YOU DON'T
HAVE ENOUGH UPPER BODY
STRENGTH, YOU NEED TO GO TO THE
GYM.
I TELL NEW ASTRONAUTS NOW, IT'S
GOING TO BE HARDER BUT I EXPECT
YOU TO AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU
WILL BE ABLE TO BUT YOU'LL HAVE
TO WORK HARDER BECAUSE NASA HAS
NOT PROVIDED WITH THE RIGHT
EQUIPMENT TO FIT YOU AND YOU'RE
TRYING TO OPERATE WITH SUIT
THAT DOES NOT FIT YOU.
IF I GAVE A GUY AN XXXXL SUIT,
THEY WOULD HAVE HARD TIME.
WE HAVE REQUIREMENT IF YOU WANT
TO DRIVE CHANGE, WRITE THAT
INTO YOUR GOVERNMENT
REQUIREMENT FOR LETTING OUT
CONTRACTS, THEY HAVE TO FIT
TRIAL.
AND THIS IS SOLVING NOT JUST
FOR WOMEN, BUT FOR SHORTER MEN,
IF SOMEBODY HAS A TORSO, THEY
HAD A HARD TIME IN THE SPACE
SUIT BECAUSE IT WAS SHORT IN
THE TORSO.
SOMETIMES CHANGING HOW YOU LOOK
AT A PROBLEM, YOU HAVE TO
CHANGE THAT APPROACH TO THE
PROBLEM BEFORE YOU CAN GET TO
THE INNOVATION PIECE AND THE
INNOVATION SOLUTION CAN BE
OBVIOUS IF YOU GET OUT OF YOUR
LANE.
>> THANK YOU, I LOVE TO SEE THE
GRIT AND DETERMINATION THAT
DROVE YOU TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT
HOW YOU RESOLVE THE PROBLEM AND
TO BE A CHIEF OF PROGRAM,
THAT'S BIG TOO.
WE TALKED ABOUT SCIENCE IN OUR
INSTITUTE AND IT'S ALL ABOUT
THIS IDEA OF LOOKING WHAT IS
THERE HOW WE'VE DONE THINGS,
WE'VE DONE THIS ALL ALONG.
IT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY AND IT'S
NOT GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
THE FUTURE SO WE HAVE TO KNOW
WHAT IS GOING TO DO FASTER SO
YOUR STORY RESONATES WITH THAT
MIND SET TO INNOVATE MORE.
SO KEEPING ON THAT THEME,
SHANNON, I WANTED TO ASK YOU
TOO, YOU KNOW, KATE TALKED A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT SYSTEMS AND
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND HOW WE
NEED TO CONTINUE TO INNOVATE
AROUND THOSE.
HAVE YOU ENCOUNTER STRUCTURES
THAT SEEM DESIGNATED WITHOUT
WOMEN IN MIND?
AND HOW DO YOU ADVOCATE FOR
CHANGE IN THESE AREAS?
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT
QUESTION AND IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR ME EXAMINE MY
FIELD BUT FOR FROM A DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE AND A DIFFERENT
ORIENTATION, IN NURSE ING,
UNLIKE SO MANY OTHER FIELDS, WE
HAVE TRADITIONALLY HAVE BEEN A
WOMEN DOMINATED FIELD.
SO OUR CHALLENGES IS NOT HOW TO
GET WOMEN BUT TO MAXIMIZE OUR
ROLE IN HEALTH AND SCIENCE.
THE HEALTHCARE WAS NOT DESIGNED
WITH OUR PERSPECTIVE OUR VALUES
OUR EXPERTISE IN MIND.
SO HAVING SAID ALL THAT, I DO
THINK THAT THERE ARE REALLY THE
PRIMARY ISSUES REMAIN THE SAME
THOUGH.
SO, AS WE'VE HEARD, A LOT
TODAY, OF COURSE SINCE OUR
FOCUS IS ON GENDER AND ON
WOMEN, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY
THAT'S SHAPED ALL OF OUR
EXPERIENCES IN SCIENCE AND IN
LEADERSHIP.
BUT I WOULD SAY, IT'S ALSO HOW
GENDER INTERSECTS WITH OTHER
ASPECTS OF OUR IDENTITY AND
POSITIONS OF SOCIETY.
FOR ME I AM A WOMEN BUT ALSO A
FIRST GENERATION COLLEGE
GRADUATE SO THAT SHAPED MY
OPPORTUNITIES.
I'M A WHITE WOMEN AND I HAVE
PRIVILEGES THAT SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUE THAT MY COLLEAGUE OF
COLOR DO NOT HAVE.
AND MY EXPERIENCE AS A LEADER
SHOULD BE REALLY SHAPED BY
BEING A LEADER IN NURSING WHICH
AS I SAID IS A PREDOMINANTLY
PROFESSION IN WOMEN.
FIRST I WOULD SAY THAT
ADVOCATING FOR CHANGE REALLY
REQUIRES US TO UNDERSTAND THAT
OUR VARIANCE IN LIFE
EXPERIENCES IS REALLY OUR
GREATEST STRENGTH.
THOSE INSIDES AND PERSPECTIVE
AND COMBINATION WITH POWERFUL
AND WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF THAT.
SECOND I WOULD SAY ADVOCATING
FOR CHANGE MEANS THAT WE HAVE
TO BE WILLING TO EXPAND OUR
SPHERE OF INFLUENCE AND ENSURE
THAT WE HAVE AN AUTHENTIC
PRESENCE IN THE SPACES THAT I
YIELD POWER.
I HAVE HEARD MANY STORIES ABOUT
HOW PRIOR WOMEN DIRECTORS OF
NAIR --NINR WERE IN THE ROOM.
WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION
TO WHETHER OUR PRESENCE IS YOU
KNOW, RECOGNIZED TRULY
RECOGNIZED IN THOSE SPACES.
I THINK FOR ME AND MANY OTHER
WOMEN PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS
REALLY BEING HEARD.
I CAN SAY IN NURSING THAT
LONGSTANDING TENANTS OF NURSING
THAT WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT OUR
HEALTH AND HEALTHCARE SYSTEM
AND SCIENCE HAVE NOT BEEN
RECOGNIZED OR HEARD OR TAKEN UP
UNTIL SOMEBODY ELSE IN A MORE
POWERFUL POSITION CLAIMS THOSE.
SO YOU CAN ARGUE THAT WE IN
NURSING HAVE NOT BEEN AS
AFFECTIVE IN OUR POSITION SXZ
VALUES AND EXPERTISE.
BUT TRUTHFULLY I CANNOT DIVORCE
BEING A FEMALE DOMINATED
PROFESSION AND OUR EXPERIENCES.
SO I ALSO MENTIONED AUTHENTIC
PRESENCE AND TO ME THAT MEANS
REALLY SHOWING UP IN A VERY
CLEAR WAY ABOUT OUR VALUES AND
ABOUT OUR INTENTIONS AND WHAT
OUR PRIORITIES ARE.
SO AS A PROFESSION AND
SCIENTIFIC DISCIPLINE, WE IN
NURSING HAVE ADJUSTED OUR
APPROACH AND PRIORITIES TO FIT
IN AND TO BE HEARD AND BE SEEN
AS LEGITIMATE.
SO TO ME MOVING FORWARD IS NOT
ENOUGH TO BE AT THE TABLE IT'S
TO BE SHOW UP IN A AUTHENTIC
AND BEING HEARD.
THIRD, IS BEING WILLING TO USE
OUR ACCUMULATED SOCIAL CAPITAL
TO BRING CHANGE.
SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE.
IN NURSING WE'RE PROUD TO BE
THE MOST TRUSTED PROFESSION FOR
240 YEARS RUNING, IT'S AN
AMAZING GIFT FOR THE PUBLIC FOR
OUR DISCIPLINE IN THE FIELD.
BUT ONCE WE'RE AT THE TABLE, WE
HAVE TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT
SOCIAL CAPITAL TO BRING ABOUT
CHANGE AND HEAR THE VOICES OF
THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IGNORED AND
NOT INCLUDED AND ALSO TO DEMAND
THE RESPECT AND THE POWER THAT
COMES WITH THAT TRUST AND COMES
WITH THAT SOCIAL CAPITOL, SO
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> THAT WAS GREAT, THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
THE AWE THEN ADVERTISE PRESENCE
RES MATES WITH ME.
I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT
BEFORE BUT IT MAKES SENSE THAT
THE NURSING DIRECTOR WAS ALWAYS
THE WOMEN IN THE ROOM AND I'M
SO GLAD THAT WE ARE NOW
SURROUNDING YOU IN THAT TABLE.
I'D LIKE TO TURN MIRIELLE AND
SHE HAS A SCIENTIFIC POINT AND
HELD MANY POSITIONS IN THAT
SPACE.
AND I WANTED TO ASK YOU, WHAT
ARE THE EMERGING TRENDS IN
SCIENCE THAT EXCITES YOU MOST
AND ARE THERE WAYS IN WHICH,
THE WAY YOU'VE SEEN IT IN
FRANCE AND IN U.S. AND OTHER
COUNTRIES, HOW SHOULD YOUNG
WOMEN PREPARE FOR THESE CHANGES
IN SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENTS?
>> THANK YOU, JONI AND THANK
YOU FOR THE INVITATION AND TO
BE PART OF THIS PANEL WITH JUST
PRESTIGIOUS SPEAKER.
SO THE QUESTION WAS DIFFICULT
TO ME, THERE IS SO MANY
EXCITING TRENDS IN SCIENCE TO
TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
BUT HAVING A BACKGROUND IN BIO
MEDICAL RESEARCH, I FOC PUS
MOSTLY ON THAT.
AND TO ME PROBABLY THE MOST
EXCITING IS THE REALLY PROGRESS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN-PERSON
ALIZED MEDICINE AND FOR
INSTANCE, THE CLINICAL
VALIDATION OF THE IS REAL
TRANSFORMATIVE LEAP IN MEDICINE
BY ENABLING DIRECT EDITING OF
DNA, CAN POTENTIALLY CORRECT
THE GENETIC DISEASES LIKE
LEUKEMIA, AND IT'S OFFERING
THE--AND CURING GENETIC
DISORDERS AT THEIR SOURCE
RATHER THAN JUST DEALING WITH
THE SYMPTOMS.
THE OTHER PART OF PRECISION
MEDICINE THAT IS REALLY
PROGRESSING VERY MUCH AND I
KNOW NCATS IS VERY INVOLVED IS
THE DEVELOPMENT OF ORGANO
SHAPES AND THESE MODELS ARE
REPLICATING HUMAN OR AN
FUNCTIONS MORE ACCURATELY THAN
TRADITIONALLY MODELS IMPROVING
DRUG TESTING EXAMINE FOR ADDING
A PERSONAL MEDICINE.
THEY REDUCE THE NEED FOR
MODULES WHICH IS ALSO IMPORTANT
MAKING RESEARCH FOR IMPORTANT
AND AFFECTIVE AND ADVANCING
MEDICINE AND PROVOIDING MORE
RELIABLE PLAT FORMS FOR
STUDYING COMPLEX DISEASES.
I KNOW THERE ARE CHALLENGES BUT
I TRULY BELIEVE THESE ARE
INTERESTING DOMAIN TO THAT WILL
DEFINITELY REVOLUTIONALIZE
MEDICINE.
ANOTHER DOMAIN IS THE PROGRESS
ADVANCE IN IMMUNO THERAPY, FOR
INSTANCE THE RESEARCH IN THE
SYSTEM AND HOW IT'S UNLOCKING
NEW THERAPIES IS VERY
INTERESTING TO ME FOR CANCER
AND INFLAMMATORY DISEASES.
SCIENTISTS ARE NOW EXPLORING
HOW IMMUNE CELLS AND RESTEWER
TISSUE INTEGRITY WHICH IS
REALLY LEADING TO THE
DEVELOPMENT OF INNOVATIVE
TREATMENTS THAT COULD TRANSFORM
HOW THESE DISEASES ARE MANAGED.
AND MAYBE I'LL JUST MENTION
BECAUSE IT'S SO BIG DOMAIN NOW,
IS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT AND THE
CURRENT IMPACT ALREADY OF AI IN
MEDICINE AND THERE ARE RISKS
ALSO SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS
IS WILL BE A REVOLUTION IN
TERMS OF DIAGNOSE, TREATMENT
IT'S ALREADY ACCELERATING DRUG
DISCOVERY IMPROVES ACCURACY AND
PERSONALIZED MEDICINE BY
ANALYZING PATIENT TO TAYLOR
TREATMENT.
SO TO ME, THERE ARE SO MANY
OTHERS, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T
MENTION THEM AND FOR ON THE
SECOND PART OF YOUR QUE, JONI
ON HOW WOMEN, HOW OUR ASTRONAUT
MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING IN
THE FIRST PANEL IS TO FIRST PER
SIGH STEM EDUCATION, VERY
STRONG AND EITHER, BOTH IN
SCIENCE AND BIOLOGY.
AND GAINING INTER DISCIPLINARY
SKILLS IS ALSO IMPORTANT.
GETTING THIS MIND SET TO
EXPLORE DIFFERENT DOMAINS AND
HAVING THIS, THIS KIND OF
SYSTEM BIOLOGY APPROACH IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
OF COURSE, THEY SHOULD ALSO
SEEK MENTORSHIPS AND SEVERAL
MENTORS AND WE HAVE SEEN
EXAMPLES IN THE PREVIOUS PANELS
ON HOW THESE PANELS PLAYED A
CRUCIAL ROLE IN THE CARRIER.
AND THEY SHOULD ALSO BE OPEN TO
GLOBAL COLLABORATIONS, WE NEED
THE EXPERTISE THAT OUR AROUND
THE WORLD TO SUCCEED AND SO I
TRULY BELIEVE IN GLOBAL
COLLABORATIONS IN THOSE DOMAINS.
AND REALLY, BUT WHAT I WOULD
LIKE TO SAY ALSO IS BELIEVE
THAT YOU CAN DO IT BECAUSE THIS
IS MAYBE THE FIRST STEP,
BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN PURSUE
STEM CAREER WITH A SUCCESS AND
YES, AND BE ABLE TO DEVELOP
YOUR OWN NETWORK PROFESSIONAL
NETWORK IS VERY IMPORTANT ALSO.
YES.
I WILL FINISH WITH THAT.
>> FANTASTIC.
[APPLAUSE]
>> I THINK IT'S STAGE IT'S
ALMOST CRIMINAL IF WE DON'T
TALK ABOUT AI IN THE PANEL,
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THA. A
LOT OF YOUR TOPICS RESONATE
WITH WHAT WE DO AT NCATS AND
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOUR
LATER TODAY AND WE'LL TALK
ABOUT MORE ABOUT THESE THINGS
TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL
ANSWER AND ENDING ON THIS NOTE
THAT WE SAID BEFORE, THAT YOU
CAN DO IT.
AND THINKING ABOUT STEM AND
GETTING THOSE EXPERIENCES EARLY
ON AND ENCOURAGING THOSE
EXPERIENCES AND GETTING THE
MENTORSHIP TO DO SO, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
EXPANDING ON THAT, I'M GOING TO
TO JEANNE, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
GOING TO.
WHAT CHANGES DO YOU THINK THAT
WE NEED FOR THE SCIENTIFIC
SYSTEM TO BE WELCOMING FOR
WOMEN IN SCIENCE AND WHAT ARE
THE PRACTICAL STEPS THAT YOU
THINK ORGANIZATIONS CAN TAKE TO
ENSURE THAT WE'RE ENABLING THAT?
>> GREAT QUE, JONI, THANK YOU
FOR HAVING US IT'S WONDERFUL TO
MEET YOU KATE.
TWO THOUGHTS, ONE IS THE
UNPOPULAR IDEA OF MAKING ROOM
AT THE TOP.
SO OUR SYSTEMS ARE DOMINATED IN
MANY PLACES BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE
BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.
THERE IS OFTEN A SIGNAL THAT
THERE IS NO ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO
MOVE UP IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS
ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGHEST
LEADERSHIP POSITIONS.
SO HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT?
IF WE DON'T CHANGE THAT WE ARE
RELYING ON THE HOPE THAT THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL AT THE TOP
ARE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE
VALUE DIVERSIFYING AND BRINGING
UP DIFFERENT PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO
DON'T LOOK LIKE THEM.
AND I THINK THAT WE CANNOT
TRUST THAT TO HAPPEN ANYMORE
JUST LOOK AT THE NEWSPAPER, AND
THE GALLERY OF POTENTIAL
LEADERS.
IN A WHATEVER YOUR OPINIONS,
THERE IS A HOMAGE THERE AND IF
WE DON'T CHANGE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR MEANINGFUL ADVANCEMENT TO
POWER, AND POWERFUL LEADERSHIP
AND POSITIONS OF POWER, WE'RE
NEVER GOING TO BE AUTOMOBILE TO
BRING UP.
I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND, I KNOW
THIS IS BEEN A INSPIRING HOUR
AND A HALF BUT YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE
ARE, IT'S NOT, THE
POSSIBILITIES FOR ADVANCEMENT I
THINK HAVE FOR ALL OF US HAVE
NEVER BEEN SO CONCERNING TO ME.
SO CREATING IF NOT REQUIREMENTS
FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE ON
INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE
ON AND TO HELP THEM RECOGNIZE
THAT THEY CAN STILL PLAY A
ROLE, THEY CAN STILL BE A ROLE
IN MENTORING THAN IF THEY JUST
CONTINUE TO RUN THINGS.
IT'S A HUGE CHALLENGE AND WE
HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT I
THINK WE HAVE TO AS LEADERS IN
THIS SPACE, SIGNAL ABSOLUTE
ZERO TOLERANCE FOR
UNPROFESSIONALISM AND FOR ANY
DISPLAY OF BEHAVIOR THAT IS
DEMEANING AND DISRESPECTFUL.
IT'S NOT AS EASY AS I THINK
SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK, WE
THINK WE'RE ACTING
PROFESSIONALLY BUT CALLING
PEOPLE ON IT AT THE TIME AND
SAYING, YOU KNOW THAT DOES NOT
SOUND GOOD TO ME, EITHER AT THE
TIME OR AFTERWARDS.
SO HAVING A CULTURE, IT'S NOT
LIKE OVER WOKE, IT'S NOT BEING
CANCELING, IT'S JUST SAYING, WE
HAVE A PROBLEM TO SOLVE AND I
EXPECT EVERYBODY TO BEHAVE
RESPECTFULLY TOWARDS EVERYBODY
ELSE IN THE WORKPLACE
REGARDLESS OF WHO IS THERE.
SO EMPHASIZING THAT IS A
CULTURAL VALUE FOR HOW WE
CONDUCT BUSINESS AND A SSEMBLE
TEAMS.
THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF
THOUGHTS.
[APPLAUSE]
>> SO WORK TO DO IS WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING TOO.
AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT MAKING SURE
THAT THERE ARE EXPECTATIONS FOR
CHANGE.
AND, YEAH, I REALLY LIKE HOW
YOU'VE STATED THAT.
AND THERE IS ROOM.
WE NEED TO BE PART OF THAT
GENERATING THAT NARRATIVE AND
MAKING SURE THAT THAT NARRATIVE
COMES TO LIGHT.
AND I THINK GOING BACK TO THE
OTHER PANELS IN THIS ONE, WE
CAN DO IT.
SO GUISI, I'M GOING TO TURN TO
YOU, YOU'RE FROM ITALY AND YOUR
COUNTRY IS CREATING PATHWAYS
FOR WOMEN IN SCIENCE AND UNDER
REPRESENTED FIELDS.
ARE THERE SPECIAL POLICIES OR
PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN
IMPACTFUL FOR FOSTERING THESE
OPPORTUNITIES?
>> THANK YOU, JONI.
YOUR QUESTION ALLOWS ME TO TALK
ABOUT NOT ONLY ABOUT ITALY BUT
ALSO HOW ATTORNEY CAN BE
INCLUDED GENDER EQUALITY ON THE
DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND THERE IS
A REASON FOR THAT, RIGHT?
IT MEANS, EVIDENTLY THAT IT'S
AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS A
DAY INTERNATIONAL DAY FOR WOMEN
AND GIRLS IN SCIENCE.
SO LET ME STRESS OUT THERE THIS.
OF COURSE EVERY COUNTRY IN THE
WORLD AS A CONSEQUENCES OF THIS
GLOBAL INITIATIVE, DECIDE TO
TAKE SOME OTHER YOU KNOW, U.S.
HAS NATIONAL STRATEGY FOR
GENDER BALANCE AND GENDER
EQUITY AS EUROPEAN STRATEGY AND
OF COURSE ITALY AS NATIONAL
STRATEGY ISSUE DEVELOPMENT IN
24021.
--2021.
IT'S A FIVE-YEAR STRATEGY.
BUT I WON SAY THAT A ACHIEVING
THIS GOAL IT DIDN'T START IN
ITALY IN 2021, IN 1996 WAS BORN
THE MINISTRY OF IN ITALY, WE
SAY PARTY OPPORTUNITY, WHICH
MEANS SAME OPPORTUNITIES.
YOU KNOW WHEN A COUNTRY OPEN A
NEW LAUNCHED A NEW MAINSTREAM
DEDICATED TO THIS ISSUE, IT'S A
GREAT SIGNAL, RIGHT.
SO I'M PROUD TO SHARE THIS
BECAUSE THIS IS AT THE
DEPARTMENT WNT PRESIDENCY OF
THE COUNCIL OF THE MINISTRIES
AND THERE IS A WOMEN AS A
MINISTER WITHOUT PORTFOLIO BUT
WOMEN, OKAY.
AND ALSO IN 2011, WE ISSUE A
LAW THAT IS A GENDER BALANCE
OBLIGATION FOR COMPANIES FOR
STATE OWNED CONTROLLED
COMPANIES TO HIRE AT LEAST
ONE-THIRD OF WOMEN IN THE
BOARD, THE ADMINISTRATIVE BOARD.
IT WORKED BECAUSE WE STARTED
FROM 7 PERCENT FEMALE
REPRESENTATION IN THOSE BOARDS
AND NOW WE'RE 45 AROUND 45, SO
IT WORKED.
WE ALSO, BACK TO OUR NATIONAL
STRATEGY, WE HAVE DEVELOPED
SEVERAL INITIATIVE IN ORDER TO
RAISE AWARENESS, IN ORDER TO
LAUNCH SOME INITIATIVE
IMPROVING MAIN LOW TO DEVELOP
SOME STUDIES AND RESEARCH TO
WITH SOME INDICATORS OF COURSE
INDICATORS SO WE ARE WORKING ON
IT.
AND THE SCIENCES ONE OF THE
TOPIC INCLUDED IN THE
INITIATIVE, WE WORK WITH THE
MINISTER OF UNIVERSITY OF
RESEARCH AND REALLY A LOT OF
INITIATIVES.
I LIKE TO MENTION ONE THAT FOR
ME IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, YOU
KNOW REMOVING ALL THE GENDER
BIAS IN THE LEARNING MATERIALS.
SO WE DON'T SEE TOO MANY MEN
NOW IN BOOKS OR YOU KNOW, IN
FLYERS, POSTERS, WE SEE MORE
WOMEN NOW.
AND EVEN IF YOU ASK THE KIDS,
NOW YOU CAN DRAW SCIENTIST NOW
WE HAVE MORE HUGE NUMBER
COMPARE TO IN FIVE YEARS, IN
FIVE YEARS, WE GOT THIS
INCREASE.
SO I MEAN, NOW YOU KNOW, KIDS
CAN DRAW FEMALE SCIENTIST NOT
ANYMORE MALE, SO IT'S A STEP
AND THAT'S AS WE ALL KNOW, WE
HAVE OUR PRIME MINISTER IS A
WOMEN, THE FIRST WOMEN AND IN
AUGUST, ONLY 245 --25 WOMEN
WERE AHEAD OF STATE OR
GOVERNMENT.
SO THE QUESTION I ASK TO MYSELF
IS, ARE WE THERE YET?
NO, NO WE ARE NOT,
UNFORTUNATELY.
AND WE ARE NOT THERE BUT, NOT
ONLY, WE HAVE THE INITIATIVE.
WE HAVE THE POLICIES, WE ARE
NOT THERE YET BECAUSE YOU KNOW
WHAT I NOTICE IS THAT THE
PERCEPTION IS NOT THERE YET.
SO IF YOU ASK PEOPLE, AT LEAST
IN ITALY, OKAY SO IS THERE ANY
GENDER ISSUE, THEY SAY NO, THIS
IS A BIG PROBLEM.
SO NO, WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
BUT, I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT,
WE AS EUROPE AS A COUNTRY, WE
DID A LOT OF PROGRESS OF
IMPROVEMENT AND I'M VERY
OPTIMISTIC FOR THE FUTURE.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
[APPLAUSE]
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF POLICIES AT THE
NATIONAL LEVELS ARE IN PLACE TO
SUPPORT THIS AND I THINK THAT'S
OF COURSE VERY CRITICAL.
WE HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE I'M
LOOKING AT MY TIME KEEPERS BUT
I'M THINKING WE HAVE ONE MORE
MINUTE.
I'M GOING TO GO OFF SCRIPT FOR
OUR PANEL HERE, AND I'M GOING
TO ASK HERE, THIS WHOLE SESSION
HAS BEEN ABOUT WOMEN IN SCIENCE
AND LEADERSHIP AND INNOVATION
AND HELPING YOUNG WOMEN AND
GIRLS PURSUE AREAS OF
SCIENTIFIC EXPLORATION.
SO I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS
IDEA OF STEM AND SPEAK TO THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE
LISTENING ONLINE MANY PEOPLE
ONLINE NOW, LISTENING ARE THOSE
YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS THAT WE
WANT TO INSPIRE.
SO MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO THE
STEM CONVERSATION.
WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
IT, BUT I WANT YOU TO THINK
ABOUT ONE WORD THAT WOULD RELAY
SORT OF WHAT YOU THINK IN TERMS
OF HOW STEM CAN CONTINUE TO
EVOLVE AND HOW WE WANT TO
ENCOURAGE WOMEN GIRLS OUT THERE
TO PURSUE AN OPPORTUNITY IN
THIS THE STEM FIELD.
ONE WORD COMES TO MIND WHEN YOU
THINK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT WORD
MAY GIVE THEM HOPE FROM YOU TO
THEM.
I'M GOING TO START AT THE
OPPOSITE END BECAUSE I'M GOING
IN A ROW, SO GUISI ONE WORD
WOULD YOU GIVE.
>> IT'S MORE THAN A WORD.
>> SORRY.
FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD SAY
REPUTATION, NOT ONLY FOR STEM,
I WOULD SAY BUILD YOUR
REPUTATION, YOU HAVE TO BE
READY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S
YOUR TIME.
SO MAYBE I CAN SAY THAT BUILD
YOUR REPUTATION.
IT WORKS FOR STEM IT WORKS FOR
WOMEN FOR EVERY FIELD.
>> OKAY.
>> JEANNE.
>> I SAY IMPACT, YOU HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE WORLD
IF YOU CHOOSE A PATH THAT
REALLY SPEAKS TO YOUR DREAMS
LIKE, KATE DID.
AND YEAH, DON'T UNDERESTIMATE
IT.
>> KATE.
>> I THINK BROADENING.
YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THESE
PIVOTAL OPPORTUNITIES IN A
CHILD'S LIFE AND I WAS
FORTUNATE ENOUGH MY PARENTS
WERE NOT FANCY THEY WERE SOCIAL
WORKERS BUT MY DAD CAN TAKE A
SATURDAY OFF WORK AND WE CAN GO
TO THE MUSEUM AND PAY THE
MUSEUM ENTRANCE FEE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF FAMILIES
THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR THEM
SO. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
OPPORTUNITIES, WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT THESE ARE NOT JUST
KIDS WHO'S PARENTS ARE
SCIENTIST SO THE GIRLS GET TO
DO THE LAB.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE THIS BROAD IMPACT AND THAT
REQUIRES MORE INSTITUTE BECAUSE
WE ARE RELYING ON THE PARENTS
TO TO THAT WE NEED TO BRING THE
RESOURCES TO THEM.
[APPLAUSE].
>> EXCELLENT.
SO REPUTATION, IMPACT,
BROADENING.
>> LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCE.
BECAUSE IT OPENS SO MANY DOORS
AND YOU CAN DO SO MANY WITH A
STEM EDUCATION, GO FOR IT.
>> GREAT.
>> OKAY, I'M GOING TO REPEATING
THESE THESE ARE WORDS WORDS.
REPUTATION, IMPACT, BROENDING,
LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCES AND?
>> BOLDNESS IN THE FACE OF
POWER.
BOLDNESS.
>> BOLDNESS.
YES, VERY GOOD.
OKAY.
REPUTATION, IMPACT, BROADENING,
LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCES,
BOLDNESS AND I'M GOING TO THROW
IN AND HAVE A LITTLE FUN.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT HAVING FUN.
WELL I'M GOING CLOSE OUT THIS
SESSION.
I WANT TO THIS PANEL SO MUCH
FOR THEIR INSIDES AND COMING
HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
SO I'M GOING TO STAY PUT HERE
AND CLOSE US OUT, AND YOU'RE
WELCOME TO STAY PUT WITH ME,
ESPECIALLY YOU KATE, YOU THINK
YOU'RE ASSIGNED TO THAT SEAT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU EVERYONE IN
THE ROOM FOR BEING PART OF THIS
PROGRAM AND THE MANY FOLKS WHO
ARE ONLINE AND WHO WILL BE
WATCHING THIS NOW AND IN THE
FUTURE.
AND SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR ALL
OF OUR INSPIRING WOMEN WHO HAVE
BEEN ON THE PANEL TO DR. KATE
RUBINS, FOR YOUR TIME AND
ADVISE AND STORIES.
AND A SPECIAL THANKS TO AN
AMAZING DPRAOUP OF NCATS THAT I
HAVE THE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH.
ASHLEY PARKER, JENITA, EMILY,
BRITNEY AND SEAN FINNIGAN WHO
HAVE REALLY MADE THIS EVENT
HAPPEN.
I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FROM
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
[APPLAUSE]
SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT YOU
KNOW, IT FEELS LIKE AFTER THE
CONVERSATION TODAY WITH ALL OF
THESE WOMEN LEADERS AROUND THE
WORLD THAT SCIENCE IS A COMMON
LANGUAGE.
NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AND THE
WORLD THRIVES ON SCIENCE AND
SCIENCE THRIVES WHEN EVERYONE
HAS A VOICE.
SO BREAKOUT YOUR SWISS ARMY
TOOL KIT WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK
LIKE AND PUT IT TO WORK WE HAVE
WORK TO DO BUT ESPECIALLY FOR
THE WOMEN AND GIRLS IN YOUR
NETWORK, TOGETHER WE CAN BUILD
A STRONGER FUTURE FOR SCIENCE
FOR ALL.
GOD'S SPEED.
THANK YOU ALL.