1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,080 >>WELCOME. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,920 LOOK WHAT I GET TO DO! 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,240 WE ARE IN SESSION. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,760 WE'RE GOING TO START BY READING 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,160 THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,400 STATEMENT AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,480 SING ALONG IF YOU KNOW THE 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,560 WORDS. 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,960 YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,840 CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM FROM 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,120 DEA. 12 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,720 IT IS ALSO POSTED IN THE 13 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,120 ELECTRONIC COUNCIL BOOK. 14 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,680 PLEASE SIGN IT AS I READ THE 15 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,760 CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENT 16 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,480 AND ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE WILL 17 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:35,680 SUFFICE, AND RETURN IT VIA EMAIL 18 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,840 TO LINDA. 19 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,360 ADVISORS AND CONSULTANTS SERVING 20 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,880 AS MEMBERS OF PUBLIC ADVISORY 21 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,840 COMMITTEES MAY NOT PARTICIPATE 22 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,800 IN SITUATIONS IN WHICH ANY 23 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,560 VIOLATION OF CONFLICT OF 24 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,400 INTEREST AND LAWS MAY OCCUR. 25 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,800 IS NOT PRESENT DURING REVIEW OF 26 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,000 APPLICATIONS OR PROJECTS IN 27 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,520 WHICH TO THE MEMBERS' KNOWLEDGE 28 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,640 ANY OF THE FOLLOWING HAS A 29 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,280 FINANCIAL INTEREST: THE MEMBER, 30 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,120 HIS/HER SPOUSE, MINOR CHILD, 31 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,200 PARTNER, INCLUDING CLOSE 32 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,520 PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATES, OR AN 33 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,360 ORGANIZATION WITH WHICH THE 34 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,360 MEMBER IS CONNECTED. 35 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,120 IN ADDITION, CONFLICTS OF 36 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,400 INTEREST MAY OCCUR BECAUSE OF 37 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,960 OTHER PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS, 38 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:17,560 SUCH AS WITH RECENT STUDENTS, 39 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,080 COLLABORATORS, PERSONAL FRIENDS, 40 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,440 OR SCIENTISTS WITH WHOM THE 41 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,800 MEMBER HAS HAD LONGSTANDING 42 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,880 SCIENTIFIC OR PERSONAL 43 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,000 DIFFERENCES. 44 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,840 TO ENSURE THAT A MEMBER DOES NOT 45 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,080 PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION OF 46 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,120 NOR VOTE ON AN APPLICATION IN 47 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,200 WHICH HE OR SHE IS IN CONFLICT, 48 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,120 A WRITTEN CERTIFICATION IS 49 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,600 REQUIRED. 50 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,800 THIS STATEMENT WILL BECOME PART 51 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,680 OF THE MEETING FILE. 52 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:39,760 THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT ETHICS 53 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,160 HAS PROVIDED A WAIVER FOR 54 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,280 FEDERAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE 55 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,480 MEMBERS EMPLOYED IN ONE 56 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,200 UNIVERSITY OF A STATE 57 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,200 MULTI-UNIVERSITY SYSTEM TO 58 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,040 REVIEW APPLICATIONS FOR A 59 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,360 SEPARATE UNIVERSITY OF THE SAME 60 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,000 SYSTEM, PROVIDED THE MEMBER HAS 61 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,280 NO CONFLICTING INSTITUTIONAL 62 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,040 RESPONSIBILITIES. 63 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,600 IN ADDITION, A FEDERAL ADVISORY 64 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,800 COMMITTEE MEMBER WHO IS EMPLOYED 65 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,400 BY A PRIVATE INSTITUTION OR AT A 66 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,480 PRIVATE INSTITUTION AND AT ONE 67 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,480 OF ITS AFFILIATES, MAY 68 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,800 PARTICIPATE IN THE REVIEW OF A 69 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,080 GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY 70 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,720 ANOTHER AFFILIATE OF THE PRIVATE 71 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,240 INSTITUTES IF HE OR SHE DOES NOT 72 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,760 HOLD A JOINT APPOINTMENT WITH 73 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,840 THE AFFILIATE THAT HAS SUBMITTED 74 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,400 THE APPLICATION, DOES NOT HAVE 75 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,360 AFFILIATE-WIDE RESPONSIBILITIES 76 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,440 AND HAS A WAIVER TO DO SO. 77 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,280 WE AT NIGMS KEEP TRACK OF THE 78 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,840 MORE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE 79 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,680 CONFLICTS FOR YOU. 80 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,080 WE RELY ON YOU TO IDENTIFY OTHER 81 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,680 TYPES OF CONFLICTS SUCH AS THOSE 82 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,480 WE ARE UNLIKELY TO KNOW ABOUT, 83 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,440 STUDENTS, FRIENDS, ET CETERA. 84 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,200 PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO LET US 85 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,000 KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 86 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,360 ABOUT A POTENTIAL CONFLICT AND 87 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,800 IF DURING THE MEETING YOU FIND 88 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,760 YOU REALIZE YOU ARE IN CONFLICT 89 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,760 WITH AN APPLICATION, OR ANOTHER 90 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,360 SITUATION ARISES, PLE PLEASE JUT 91 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,120 LET US KNOW AND WE WILL MANAGE 92 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:49,960 THAT FOR YOU. 93 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:50,480 OKAY. 94 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,600 WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO START 95 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,360 WITH INTRODUCTIONS. 96 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,000 SO IF WE COULD START WITH TERRI, 97 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:56,960 PLEASE, AND THEN MOVE AROUND THE 98 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,520 CIRCLE. 99 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:05,520 >>GOOD MORNING. 100 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,680 USUALLY WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE TO 101 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,600 MUTE OR UNMUTE. 102 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,880 GOOD MORNING, I'M TERRI GOSS 103 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,840 KINZY, PROFESSOR EMERITUS, 104 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,400 BIOCHEMISTRY AND MOLECULAR 105 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,520 BIOLOGY AT RUTGERS, ROBERT WOOD 106 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,120 JOHNSON MEDICAL SCHOOL. 107 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,920 MY RESEARCH INTEREST OVER MY 108 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:19,320 CAREER HAS BEEN IN TRANSLATIONAL 109 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,600 CONTROL OF GENE EXPRESSION IN 110 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,240 FUNGAL SYSTEMS WITH PARTICULAR 111 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,680 INTEREST IN TRANSLATION 112 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,200 ELONGATION. 113 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,400 >>HI, EVERYONE. 114 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,200 I'M WENDY YOUNG. 115 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,200 I'VE BEEN IN BIOPHARMA FOR 116 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,840 30-PLUS YEARS, MOST RECENTLY WAS 117 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,160 SVP OF SMALL MOLECULES AT 118 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,920 GENENTECH AND CURRENTLY AN 119 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,680 ADVISOR AT GOOGLE VENTURES. 120 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,120 >>MY NAME IS JULIA WID HAM, 121 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,480 DEPARTMENT OF CHEMISTRY AND 122 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,480 BIOCHEMISTRY AT UNIVERSITY OF 123 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,440 OREGON, AND MY LAB'S RESEARCH 124 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,720 FOCUSES ON DEVELOPMENT AND USE 125 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 OF SPECTROSCOPIC DENEEX TO STUDY 126 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,320 RNA FOLDING. 127 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,800 >>HELLO, EVERYBODY. 128 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,520 RON KING WITH UNIVERSITY OF 129 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,400 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, 130 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,560 TRANSLATIONAL GENOMICS 131 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,200 DEPARTMENT, AND FOCUSING ON 132 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,040 AGAIN TRAINING AND 133 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,240 COMMERCIALIZATION AND 134 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,240 ENTREPRENEURSHIP, AND I JUST 135 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,200 WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS 136 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,200 ACTUALLY TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE 137 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,880 STAFF AND ALL, SEEING EVERYBODY 138 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,200 WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN SUCH A LITTLE 139 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,160 BOX IN THE SCREEN HERE IS 140 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,480 WONDERFUL AND I KNOW WHAT IT 141 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,120 TAKES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN SO I 142 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,080 APPRECIATE ALL OF WHAT YOU'VE 143 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,160 DONE TO GET US HERE AND 144 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,400 HOPEFULLY I'M NOT SPEAKING TOO 145 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,720 SOON BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOTTEN 146 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,720 HOME YET, BUT THANK YOU. 147 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,720 >>I'M DANIELLE LI, ASSOCIATE 148 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,360 PROFESSOR OF SLOAN SCHOOL OF 149 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,360 MANAGEMENT, I'M AN ECONOMIST AND 150 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,080 I STUDY SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY. 151 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,520 >>BRENT EYE VER SON, UNIVERSITY 152 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,800 OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN IN THE 153 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,920 DEPARTMENT OF CHEMISTRY BUT FOR 154 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,560 THE LAST DECADE I WAS DEAN OF 155 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,920 THE SCHOOL OF UNDERGRADUATE 156 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,320 STUDIES AND I ALSO DID A STINT 157 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,040 AS AN ENROLLMENT MANAGEMENT 158 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,240 PROFESSIONAL SO I SPENT A LOT OF 159 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,880 TIME THINKING ABOUT THE 160 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,840 UNDERGRADUATE EXPERIENCE AND 161 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:04,640 EDUCATION AND GENERAL EDUCATION 162 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,040 OF THAT. 163 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,760 >>GOOD MORNING. 164 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,240 I'M ERICA BROWN, DIRECTOR OF THE 165 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,040 DIVISION OF EXTRAMURAL 166 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,440 ACTIVITIES AT NIGMS AND THE 167 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,440 EXECUTIVE SECRETARY OF COUNCIL. 168 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,880 >>MORNING. 169 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,560 I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF 170 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:21,760 NIGMS. 171 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,920 >>I'M NATALIE AHN, PROFESSOR 172 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,040 UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO BOULDER, 173 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,680 SIGNAL TRANSDUCTION AND KINASE 174 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,600 REGULATION WITH AN EMPHASIS ON 175 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,000 PROTEOMICS AND MASS 176 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,360 SPECTROMETRY. 177 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,680 >>I'M DAVID MATHEWS FROM THE 178 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,400 UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER. 179 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,600 I'M IN THE DEPARTMENT OF 180 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,480 BIOCHEMISTRY AND BIOPHYSICS AND 181 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,000 OUR CENTER FOR RNA BIOLOGY. 182 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,440 MY GROUP STUDIES THE 183 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,640 COMPUTATIONAL BIOLOGY OF RNA. 184 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,560 >>GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 185 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,280 I'M MARK -- SENIOR VICE 186 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:54,160 PRESIDENT -- CLINICAL FARM YOLG 187 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,960 AT GILEAD, ALSO THE IMMEDIATE 188 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,280 PAST PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN 189 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:58,240 SOCIETY FOR CLINICAL 190 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,880 PHARMACOLOGY AND THERAPEUTICS. 191 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,040 IT'S AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO 192 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:01,920 BE HERE WITH ALL OF YOU. 193 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,800 THANK YOU. 194 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,880 >>HELLO. 195 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:05,960 I'M LESILEE ROSE. 196 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,280 I'M AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 197 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:07,880 CALIFORNIA DAVIS IN THE 198 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,160 DEPARTMENT OF MOLECULAR AND 199 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,560 CELLULAR BIOLOGY, AND I STUDY 200 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,720 EARLY DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEEM 201 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,160 TOTAL C. ELEGANS, CELL AND 202 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,920 DEVELOPMENTAL BIOLOGY. 203 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,960 >>GOOD MORNING, I'M RON 204 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,160 PRZYGODZKI, DIRECTOR OF GENOMIC 205 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,040 MEDICINE IN THE OFFICE OF 206 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,000 RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT IN U.S. 207 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,880 DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS. 208 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,360 >>MY NAME IS -- ASSISTANT 209 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,600 PROFESSOR IN THE UNIVERSITY OF 210 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,520 ILLINOIS AT I URBANA-CHAMPAIGN. 211 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,360 THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE, I'M 212 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,000 VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. 213 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,200 WE STUDY HOW BACTERIA, OUR 214 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,560 BEAUTIFUL FRIENDS, REGULATE 215 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,560 GROWTH AND GROW SO FAST. 216 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,000 THANKS. 217 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,760 >>GOOD MORNING. 218 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,080 MY NAME IS PAMELA STACKS. 219 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,640 I'M FROM SAN JOSÉ STATE IN 220 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:54,520 CALIFORNIA, AND IN THE 221 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,240 DEPARTMENT OF CHEMISTRY, 222 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,760 PROFESSOR E EMERITUS, BIOCHEMIS, 223 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,680 GREAT TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. 224 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,640 >>WELL, THANK YOU ALL. 225 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,080 THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND ALL OF 226 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,280 YOUR HARD WORK THAT HAVE LED UP 227 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:06,560 TO THIS MEETING. 228 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,120 OH, SORRY, WE HAVE TWO MORE 229 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:08,520 ONLINE. 230 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,240 I FORGOT. 231 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,120 ANGELA DEPACE, COULD YOU EXHIBIT 232 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,680 INTRODUCE YOURSELF? 233 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,280 >>CAN EVERYONE SEE ME AND HEAR 234 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:18,440 ME? 235 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,240 >>YES, WE CAN. 236 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,240 >>WONDERFUL. 237 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,080 MY NAME IS ANGELA DEPACE. 238 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,840 I'M CURRENTLY ON LEAVE FROM MY 239 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,000 POSITION AS ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR 240 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,240 OF SYSTEMS BIOLOGY AT HARVARD 241 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,440 MEDICAL SCHOOL, WHERE MY LAB 242 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,760 STUDIES THE MECHANISM AND 243 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,280 EVOLUTION OF ANIMAL 244 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,720 TRANSCRIPTION AND -- EMBRYOS AND 245 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,520 I AM SERVING AS A SCIENTIFIC 246 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,760 PROGRAM OFFICER AT THE HOWARD 247 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,520 HUGHES MEDICAL INSTITUTE, WHERE 248 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,240 I SUPPORT THE FELLOWS PROGRAM 249 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,720 AND I SERVE AS THE LIAISON TO 250 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,480 THE HHMI CENTER FOR THE 251 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,560 ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE 252 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,240 LEADERSHIP AND CULTURE. 253 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,640 IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL IN THE 254 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,880 SAME ROOM TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH 255 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,800 I'M ON ZOOM. 256 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,880 >>HHMI IS JUST DOWN THE ROAD SO 257 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,960 NEXT TIME YOU'RE THERE, COME 258 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,240 VISIT US. 259 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:00,760 ANGELA BYERS WINSTON. 260 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,680 >>GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE FROM 261 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,080 WISCONSIN, I APOLOGIZE I'LL KEEP 262 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,640 WORKING ON MY CAMERA, NOT SURE 263 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,920 WHY IT'S NOT TURNING ON, COMING 264 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,320 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN 265 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,520 MADISON, WHERE I'M A PROFESSOR 266 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,920 IN THE DEPARTMENT OF MEDICINE, 267 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,720 AND MY RESEARCH IS ON THE 268 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,120 SCIENCE OF EFFECTIVE MENTORSHIP 269 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:18,560 IN STEM FIELDS. 270 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:18,880 THANK YOU. 271 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,880 >>THANK YOU TO BOTH ANGELAS. 272 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,440 I THINK THAT'S NOW EVERYBODY. 273 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,400 SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO 274 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:25,960 CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES 275 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,000 FROM THE PAST MEETING. 276 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,040 DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR 277 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,760 AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? 278 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,240 NO? 279 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,080 THEREFORE, I'M GOING TO MOVE 280 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,600 THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES. 281 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,800 DOES ANYONE OPPOSE THAT? 282 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,640 OKAY. 283 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,440 THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE 284 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,960 PAST MEETING ARE APPROVED AND 285 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,120 THEN I NEED TO COU CONFIRM FUTUE 286 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,560 COUNCIL MEETING DATES WITH YOU. 287 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:50,720 THEY ARE AS OF NOW THURSDAY, 288 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,360 SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2023, WHICH WILL 289 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,200 BE A VIRTUAL MEETING, THURSDAY, 290 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,080 FEBRUARY 1ST, 2024, ALSO A 291 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,760 VIRTUAL MEETING, AND THEN NEXT 292 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,800 MAY, THURSDAY, MAY 16TH, 2024, 293 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,640 WE'LL PLAN TO HAVE AN IN-PERSON 294 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,320 MEETING. 295 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,280 DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS 296 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,600 WITH THOSE DATES? 297 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:06,880 OKAY. 298 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,080 THEN I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE 299 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,720 DATES. 300 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,680 AND THEREFORE, BY ACCLAMATION, I 301 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:13,680 THINK THEY'RE APPROVED. 302 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:14,000 OKAY. 303 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,520 I'M NOW GOING TO GIVE MY 304 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,280 DIRECTOR'S REPORT. 305 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,360 WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN 306 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,560 WE'LL MOVE ON TO OTHER TOPICS. 307 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:21,760 SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GO UP 308 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:29,160 THERE. 309 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:37,960 THANK YOU. 310 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,280 FEELS LIKE A NEW EXPERIENCE TO 311 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,920 BE STANDING UP HERE GIVING A 312 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,120 TALK, I'VE DONE IT MANY TIMES 313 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:42,440 BEFORE. 314 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,520 SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR 315 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,400 JOINING US FOR THIS COUNCIL 316 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:46,720 MEETING. 317 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,960 AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN 318 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,760 OVERVIEW OF SOME OF WHAT'S GOING 319 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,920 ON AT NIGMS AND THEN HOPEFULLY 320 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,280 WE'LL HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION 321 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,360 ABOUT CURRENT TOPICS AND GET 322 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,200 YOUR FEEDBACK ON THEM. 323 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,160 JUST TO REMIND YOU, WE DO HAVE 324 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,760 SOME AD HOC PARTICIPANTS IN 325 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,440 ADDITION TO REGULAR 326 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,360 COUNCILMEMBERS TODAY, AND 327 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,160 THEY'VE INTRODUCED THEMSELVES, 328 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,760 MARK AND BRENT, SO THANK YOU 329 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,480 BOTH FOR COMING. 330 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,960 AND AS WE HAVE DONE FOR THE PAST 331 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,840 SEVEN YEARS OR SO, WE ALSO HAVE 332 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,000 TWO EARLY CAREER INVESTIGATOR AD 333 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,280 HOCS ON COUNCIL, PAOLA AND 334 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,600 JULIA, WHO BOTH INTRODUCED 335 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,040 THEMSELVES, AND WE FIND IT VERY 336 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,760 VALUABLE TO BRING EARLY CAREER 337 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,440 INVESTIGATORS INTO OUR COUNCIL 338 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,920 SESSION TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE 339 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,120 ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE 340 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,320 ECOSYSTEM AND GET THEIR INPUT, 341 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,360 AND ALSO TO GET THEIR HELP IN 342 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,600 TELLING THEIR PEERS ABOUT WHAT 343 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,760 GOES ON IN COUNCIL BECAUSE 344 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,240 COUNCIL IS A LITTLE MYSTERIOUS 345 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,800 RELATIVE TO WHAT GOES ON IN THE 346 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,880 STUDY SECTIONS WHICH PEOPLE ARE 347 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,240 MORE FAMILIAR WITH, SO THANKS TO 348 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,040 BOTH OF YOU FOR AGREEING TO HELP 349 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,240 US WITH THOSE THINGS. 350 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,680 WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF 351 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:52,760 PERSONNEL CHANGES AS IS ALWAYS 352 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,480 THE CASE AT NIGMS SO I WANT TO 353 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,480 INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME NEW STAFF 354 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,720 MEMBERS. 355 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,720 FIRST ASHLEY BARNES IS A NEW 356 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,960 PROGRAM DIRECTOR IN OUR 357 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,920 BIOMEDICAL TECHNOLOGY BRANCH OF 358 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,920 OUR BIOPHYSICS, BIOMEDICAL 359 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,080 TECHNOLOGY AND COMPUTATIONAL 360 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,640 BIOSCIENCES DIVISION. 361 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,360 WELCOME TO HIM. 362 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:18,360 SAMSAMMY KATTA, PREVIOUSLY A 363 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,240 CONTRACTOR IN OUR DIVISION OF 364 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,000 DATA INTEGRATION MODELING AND 365 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:22,400 ANALYTICS. 366 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,800 SHE'S NOW COME ON BOARD AS A 367 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,720 FULL FEDERAL EMPLOYEE AND IT'S 368 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:29,840 REALLY GREAT HAVING HER AS PART 369 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,800 OF THE TEAM PERMANENTLY. 370 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,320 MELISSA KOPYTO IS A MANAGEMENT 371 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,200 ANALYST IN OUR DIVISION OF 372 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,720 MANAGEMENT AND WORKING CLOSELY 373 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,160 WITH SALLY LEE AND HER STAFF. 374 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,560 RITA MILLER IS A NEW PROGRAM 375 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:42,960 DIRECTOR IN DEVELOPMENTAL AND 376 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,480 CELLULAR PROCESSES BRANCH IN OUR 377 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,480 GENETICS AND MOLECULAR, CELLULAR 378 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,680 AND DEVELOPMENTAL BIOLOGY 379 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:49,000 DIVISION. 380 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,400 AND IT'S GREAT HAVING HER ON THE 381 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,800 TEAM AS WELL. 382 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,120 WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT PROMOTION 383 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,080 TO ANNOUNCE. 384 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,800 AYANNA VEST, WHO WORKS IN 385 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,760 SALLY'S TEAM IN THE DIVISION OF 386 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,840 MANAGEMENT IS NOW SUPERVISORY 387 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,480 MANAGEMENT ANALYST, RUNNING A 388 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,960 TEAM WITHIN THAT THAT FOCUSES ON 389 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,160 HR AND OTHER RELATED ACTIVITIES. 390 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,720 OF COURSE WITH ALL THESE COMINGS 391 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,480 AND PROMOTIONS, THERE ARE SOME 392 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,680 DEPARTURES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE 393 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:17,400 YOU AWARE. 394 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,280 BOB COYNE, WHO WAS A PROGRAM 395 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,680 DIRECTOR IN THE DEVELOPMENTAL 396 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,080 CELLULAR PROCESSES BRANCH IN 397 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,320 GMCDB HAS RETIRED. 398 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,080 WE WISH HIM THE BEST IN THIS 399 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,240 NEXT PHASE OF HIS LIFE. 400 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,640 AND BERNICE DURAN, WHO WAS ALSO 401 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,080 IN THE DIVISION OF MANAGEMENT, 402 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,880 HAS NOW MOVED ON AND IS WORKING 403 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,240 WITH THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR 404 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,200 COMPLEMENTARY AND INTEGRATIVE 405 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,200 HEALTH. 406 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,720 AND WE DEFINITELY MISS HER SENSE 407 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,520 OF HUMOR. 408 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,920 SHE BROUGHT A CERTAIN SPARK TO 409 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,240 OUR OFFICE UPSTAIRS. 410 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,240 MARTHA GARCIA, WHO WAS A PROGRAM 411 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,960 OFFICER IN THE PHARMACOLOGICAL 412 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,320 AND PHYSIOLOGICAL SCIENCES 413 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,480 BRANCH IN PPBC HAS NOW MOVED TO 414 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,600 THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF 415 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,880 DIABETES AND DIGESTIVE AND 416 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,760 KIDNEY DISEASES. 417 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,960 JOE GINDHART, WHO MANY REMEMBER 418 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,960 WAS A BRANCH CHIEF FOR THE 419 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,400 CELLULAR BIOLOGY BRANCH IN GMCDB 420 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,360 TOOK A PROMOTION AND HAS NOW 421 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,680 MOVED TO BECOME THE DEPUTY 422 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:17,320 DIRECTOR OFDIRECTOR AT THE CHILD 423 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,000 HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTE. 424 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,160 WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH 425 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,880 HIM IN THAT NEW ROLE AS WELL. 426 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,960 FRANK SHEWMAKER, PROGRAM OFFICER 427 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:29,520 IN THE BIOPHYSICS BRANCH IN B 428 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,160 BB -- HAS NOW MOVED TO THE 429 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,360 NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF 430 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,560 NEUROLOGICAL DISORDERS AND 431 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:38,400 STROKE AS A PROMOTION. 432 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,080 DARREN SLEDJESKI, WAS ERICA'S 433 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,400 DEPUTY, HAS NOW BECOME THE 434 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,360 ACTUAL DIRECTOR OF THE DIVISION 435 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,800 OF EXTRAMURAL ACTIVITIES IN THE 436 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,400 NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ARTHRITIS 437 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,560 AND MUSCULOSKELETAL AND SKIN 438 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:51,800 DISEASES. 439 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,120 SO HE'S NOW ERICA'S PEER AROUND 440 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,800 THE TABLE OF DEA, WHICH WE WISH 441 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,680 HIM THE BEST BUT WE CERTAINLY DO 442 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:03,080 MISS DARREN. 443 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:08,440 FINALLY FEI WANG, BRANCH CHIEF 444 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,160 IN BBCB HAS NOW MOVED ON TO THE 445 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,200 NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON AGING AND 446 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,440 WE WISH HER THE BEST AS WELL. 447 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,240 NIH-WIDE, IMPORTANT NEW 448 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,200 APPOINTMENT TO ANNOUNCE TO YOU, 449 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,520 ESPECIALLY FROM NIGMS'S 450 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,240 PERSPECTIVE IS A NEW DIRECTOR OF 451 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,240 THE NIH TRIBAL HEALTH RESEARCH 452 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,160 OFFICE, ALSO CALLED THRO. 453 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,240 KARINA WALTERS, WHO IS SOMEONE 454 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,480 QUITE FAMILIAR TO NIGMS THROUGH 455 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,120 HER WORK IN THE NATIVE AMERICAN 456 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,280 RESEARCH CENTERS FOR HEALTH 457 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,600 PROGRAMS HAS BEEN RECENTLY 458 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,680 APPOINTED, STARTED AT THE END OF 459 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,840 APRIL, APRIL 24TH, AND SHE 460 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,680 BRINGS MORE THAN 28 YEARS OF 461 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,760 AMERICAN INDIAN ALASKA NATIVE 462 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,440 RESEARCH EXPERIENCE TO THE JOB 463 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,960 SO I THINK SHE'LL BE VERY 464 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,360 VALUABLE IN HER KNOWLEDGE AND 465 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,200 SPER SPECULPERSPECTIVE WILL BE L 466 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,840 FOR US AS WE NOT JUST SORT OF 467 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,680 REINVIG RART THE PROGRAM AFTER 468 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:57,760 THE EVALUATION AND TRIBAL 469 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:58,760 CONSULTATION THAT WE DID AND 470 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,360 DISCUSSED WITH YOU ON COUNCIL A 471 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,560 YEAR OR SO AGO, BUT DEVELOP SOME 472 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,800 NEW PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE BEEN 473 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,080 INVOLVED IN HELPING US PLAN AND 474 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,400 WE'LL BE ROLLING OUT IN THE NEXT 475 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,400 YEAR OR SO. 476 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,200 SHE'LL WORK WITH US, WITH OTHER 477 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,880 INSTITUTES AND CENTERS ON THEIR 478 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,840 PROGRAMS AND HOPEFULLY DEVELOP 479 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,800 STRONGER RELATIONSHIPS WITH 480 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:18,960 FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES 481 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,280 ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PROMOTE 482 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,680 HEALTH RESEARCH THAT'S IMPORTANT 483 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,760 TO THOSE TRIBES. 484 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,160 SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING 485 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,600 WITH KARINA. 486 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,120 WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF JOB 487 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,440 VACANCIES AND WE'D LIKE YOUR 488 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,240 HELP IN MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF 489 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,720 THEM AND TRYING TO GET SOME 490 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,400 EXCELLENT APPLICANTS. 491 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,680 WE HAVE A BRANCH CHIEF OPENING 492 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,800 AS I MENTIONED, FEI WANG HAS 493 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,800 LEFT AND THEREFORE WE'RE LOOKING 494 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,040 FOR A REPLACEMENT FOR HER, SO IF 495 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,840 YOU KNOW OF SOMEONE GOOD, 496 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,880 BIOPHYSICS, EITHER IN THE 497 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,320 EXTRAMURAL COMMUNITY, ACADEMIA 498 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,720 OR ELSEWHERE, PLEASE LET THEM 499 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,520 KNOW ABOUT THIS POSSIBILITY. 500 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,360 AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROGRAM 501 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,120 DIRECTOR POSITIONS OPEN. 502 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,440 WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPANDING THE 503 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,640 NUMBER OF POSITIONS WE HAVE 504 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,280 BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF NEW 505 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,480 PROGRAMS AND ADDITIONAL GRANTS 506 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,320 WE'VE TAKEN ON DUE TO THE REALLY 507 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,800 EXCELLENT INCREASES IN BUDGETS 508 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,280 WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FIVE OR 509 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,800 SIX YEARS, BUT THAT MEANS MORE 510 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,080 WORK AND, THEREFORE, WE NEED 511 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,040 MORE STAFF. 512 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,120 AND SO WE'RE ADDING STAFF IN 513 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,560 BBCB, WE'RE ADDING STAFF UNTIL 514 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,760 THE DIVISION OF RESEARCH 515 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,640 CAPACITY BUILDING, AND IN 516 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,160 GENETICS MOLECULAR CELLULAR AND 517 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,560 DEVELOPMENTAL BIOLOGY. 518 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,440 THEY ALL HAVE OPENINGS FOR 519 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,200 PROGRAM OFFICERS. 520 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,040 IF YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE 521 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:32,880 INTERESTED, PLEASE ENCOURAGE 522 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,040 THEM TO APPLY. 523 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,200 THEY WILL APPLY THROUGH THE NIH 524 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,720 GLOBAL RECRUITMENT, WHICH IS NOT 525 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,720 TRIVIAL, IF YOU HAVEN'T APPLIED 526 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,960 FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB BEFORE, IT 527 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,760 OPENED MAY 15TH, IT WILL CLOSE 528 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,800 MAY 24TH. 529 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,120 IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE AND THEY 530 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,080 WANT TO DO THIS, WE'RE VERY 531 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,960 HAPPY TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE THE 532 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,400 PROCESS, SO PLEASE POINT THEM TO 533 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,640 US AND WE CAN GIVE THEM 534 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,440 ASSISTANCE ON HOW TO PROPERLY 535 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,080 APPLY FOR THE JOBS AND MAKE SURE 536 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,720 THEY MAKE THE CERTIFICATES, ET 537 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,200 CETERA. 538 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,840 SAVE THE DATE. 539 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,240 THIS IS THE TWO NAMED LECTURES 540 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,120 THAT NIGMS SPONSORS EACH YEAR, 541 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:11,840 THEY HAPPEN IN THE FALL AND 542 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,880 WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE 543 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,040 WHO WILL BE GIVING THOSE. 544 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,120 THE FIRST IS THE JUDITH 545 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:17,440 GREENBERG EARLY CAREER 546 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,720 INVESTIGATOR LECTURE, WHICH WE 547 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,480 STARTED SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, 548 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,120 SOMETHING ON THAT ORDER, AND WE 549 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:25,080 RECENTLY RENAMED TO HONOR THE 550 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,960 FORMER DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF NIGMS. 551 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,680 MANY OF YOU KNOW JUDITH 552 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,160 GREENBERG. 553 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,560 AND THIS YEAR I'M VERY PLEASED 554 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,400 TO ANNOUNCE THAT AKHILA RAJAN AT 555 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,120 THE FRED MUCH HUTCHINSON CANCER 556 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:39,400 CENTER WILL BE THE LECTURER. 557 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,920 THAT WILL BE SEPTEMBER 27TH, 558 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,760 1:00 TO 2:00 P.M. EASTERN TIME, 559 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,440 AND THAT WILL BE BROADCAST BY 560 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,760 NIH VIDEOCAST AND RECORDED, SO 561 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,520 YOU CAN WATCH IT EITHER LIVE AT 562 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,600 THE TIME OR LATER, DEPENDING ON 563 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,000 YOUR SCHEDULE. 564 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,520 THE DEWITT STETTEN LECTURE WILL 565 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,040 BE GIVEN BY RY YOUNG FROM TEXAS 566 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,240 A & M UNIVERSITY AND THAT WILL 567 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,160 HAPPEN NOVEMBER 8TH FROM 3:00 TO 568 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,600 4:00 AND AGAIN THAT WILL BE 569 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,040 BROADCAST VIA NIH VIDEOCAST AS 570 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,440 WELL AS RECORDED. 571 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,080 THESE WILL BOTH BE EXCEPTIONAL 572 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,080 LECTURES, I CAN ASSURE YOU, SO I 573 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,600 HOPE YOU WILL TUNE IN AND I HOPE 574 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,320 YOU'LL TELL OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT 575 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,880 THEM. 576 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,520 NEW PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE 577 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,360 DEVELOPED TO TRY TO PROMOTE NOT 578 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:20,640 JUST NIGMS'S BUT NIH IN 579 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,640 GENERAL'S STEM K-12 ACTIVITIES 580 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,280 TO TRY TO GET STUDENTS 581 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,560 INTERESTED IN CAREERS IN 582 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,880 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH. 583 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,720 THIS IS WITH KAHOOT. 584 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,040 IF YOU HAVE ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE 585 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,320 SCHOOLERS OR KNOW ELEMENTARY OR 586 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,960 MIDDLE SCHOOLERS YOU MAY BE 587 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,840 FAMILIAR WITH KAHOOT. 588 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,680 THIS IS A PLATFORM THAT ALLOWS 589 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,760 INTERACTIVE QUIZZES, WHICH ARE 590 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,760 REALLY IN A KIND OF GAME-SHOW 591 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,160 FORMAT, THEY'VE GOT MUSIC AND 592 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,360 LEADER BOARDS AND ALL KINDS OF 593 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:50,520 INTERESTING STUFF. 594 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,080 AND STEPHANIE OLDER AND HER 595 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,480 GROUP HAVE SET UP A 596 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,160 COLLABORATION ON BEHALF OF ALL 597 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:01,480 OF NIH FOR US TO HAVE A FEATURED 598 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,360 PARTNER POSITION SUCH THAT OUR 599 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:06,280 QUIZZES WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED ON 600 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,040 THEIR MAIN PAGE AND WILL BE 601 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:08,680 PROMOTED BY KAHOOT. 602 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,680 AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS ACTUALLY 603 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,920 RECENTLY THE WAY THEIR FEATURED 604 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,840 PARTNERS BOARD LOOKS SO WE'RE 605 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,560 RIGHT THERE, RIGHT UNDER 606 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,120 MICROSOFT, NEXT TO NASA, THE 607 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,280 EUROPEAN UNION, "STAR WARS," 608 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,560 MARVEL COMICS, ET CETERA, ET 609 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:22,920 CETERA. 610 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,880 SO WE THINK THIS MIGHT BE QUITE 611 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,760 IMPACTFUL IN TERMS OF GETTING 612 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,160 THE MESSAGE OUT ABOUT THE 613 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,280 IMPORTANCE OF BIOMEDICAL 614 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,480 RESEARCH AND CAREERS IN RESEARCH 615 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,680 TO YOUNG PEOPLE. 616 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,200 SO STAY TUNED. 617 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,760 THERE ALREADY ARE A NUMBER OF 618 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,920 KAHOOTS UP THERE THAT WE 619 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,360 DEVELOPED AS PART OF OUR 620 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:39,520 PATHWAYS PROGRAM THAT YOU MAY 621 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,440 REMEMBER. 622 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,960 I THINK THERE'S ONE FROM THE 623 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,240 NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON DRUG 624 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,360 ABUSE, BUT THERE WILL BE MORE 625 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:48,480 COMING AS WELL. 626 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,040 I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON 627 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,120 SOME OF THE UNITE FUNDING 628 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:52,000 OPPORTUNITIES SO ON THIS 629 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,120 COUNCIL, WE'VE TALKED A NUMBER 630 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:54,960 OF TIMES ABOUT THE UNITE 631 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,240 INITIATIVE WHICH IS AN NIH-WIDE 632 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,440 INITIATIVE TO PROMOTE DIVERSITY, 633 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,760 EQUITY, INCLUSION AND 634 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,520 ACCESSIBILITY AND YOU, COUNCIL, 635 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,680 CLEARED SEVERAL OF THE CONCEPTS 636 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,680 FOR US SO WE CAN MOVE AHEAD WITH 637 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,000 THESE INITIATIVES AND I'M REALLY 638 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,280 HAPPY TO SAY THAT THREE OF THEM 639 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,040 ARE NOW LIVE ON THE STREETS, AND 640 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,000 WE'LL BE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS. 641 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,840 THE FIRST IS RESEARCH WITH 642 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,080 ACTIVITIES RELATED TO DIVERSITY 643 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,800 OR REWARD. 644 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,880 AND ALISON GAMMI DID THE HEAVY 645 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,080 LIFTING ALONG WITH THE TEAM ON 646 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,640 GETTING THIS OUT. 647 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,800 THIS IS AN R01 PROGRAM SO REAL 648 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,160 LIVE R01s FOR INVESTIG INVESTIGS 649 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,240 WHO HAVE DONE REALLY EXCEPTIONAL 650 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,360 THINGS TO PROMOTE DIVERSITY, 651 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:35,560 EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND 652 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,080 ACCESSIBILITY AND WHO CURRENTLY 653 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,560 DON'T HAVE NIH GRANT RESEARCH 654 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,120 FUNDING. 655 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:42,400 THIS WILL BRING RESEARCHERS INTO 656 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,840 THE SYSTEM WHO AREN'T CURRENTLY 657 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,480 FUNDED BY NIH. 658 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,600 IT'S GOING TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE 659 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,160 WHO HAVE DONE EXCEPTIONAL THINGS 660 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,120 FOR DEIA. 661 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:49,520 IT'S GOING TO SUPPORT BOTH THEIR 662 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,840 RESEARCH BUT ALSO ALLOW THEM TO 663 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,360 CONTINUE THOSE DEIA ACTIVITIES. 664 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,000 SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE 665 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,280 AN EXTREMELY IMPACTFUL PROGRAM 666 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,680 IN TERMS OF HELPING TO DIVERSIFY 667 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,320 FUNDING FROM NIH, GET MORE 668 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,400 INSTITUTIONS, MORE REGIONS, MORE 669 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,600 PEOPLE FUNDED, AND ALSO PROMOTE 670 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,840 BRINGING ADDITIONAL TALENT INTO 671 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,760 THE SYSTEM. 672 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,480 WE ALSO HAVE LAUNCHED THE 673 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,160 INSTRUMENTATION GRANT PROGRAM 674 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,440 FOR RESOURCE-LIMITED 675 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,200 INSTITUTIONS. 676 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,280 DOROTHY BECKETT AND HER TEAM 677 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,040 WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING 678 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,640 THIS ONE OUT. 679 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,880 WE'RE CALLING THIS THE RLI-S10 680 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,000 RESOURCE-LIMITED INSTITUTION 681 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,280 S10. 682 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,400 AND IT AIMS TO ENHANCE RESEARCH 683 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,680 CAPACITY AND EDUCATIONAL 684 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,920 OPPORTUNITIES AT 685 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,560 RESOURCE-LIMITED INSTITUTIONS, 686 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,600 AND IT WILL ALLOW THEM TO 687 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,480 PURCHASE MODERN SCIENTIFIC 688 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,440 INSTRUMENTATION. 689 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,640 AND THERE'S SOME IMPORTANT 690 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,440 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS PROGRAM 691 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,720 AND THE EXISTING INSTRUMENTATION 692 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,880 GRANT PROGRAMS AT NIH. 693 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,000 IMPORTANTLY, THE EQUIPMENT FOR 694 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,200 THIS PROGRAM CAN BE USED NOT 695 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,600 JUST FOR RESEARCH BUT ALSO FOR 696 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,680 TEACHING AND EDUCATION. 697 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,640 SO THAT'S, I THINK, AN IMPORTANT 698 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,720 EXPANSION OF THE ABILITY OF 699 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,400 INSTITUTIONS TO PURCHASE 700 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,600 EQUIPMENT THAT WILL HELP BOTH 701 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,320 THEIR RESEARCH AND THEIR 702 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,080 TEACHING MISSIONS. 703 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,480 AND ALSO THE MAJOR USERS THAT 704 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,880 ARE ACQUIRED TO APPLY FOR THESE 705 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,200 GRANTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE 706 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,320 MAJOR USERS BUT FOR THIS 707 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,720 PROGRAM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE 708 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,720 NIH-FUNDED THE WAY THEY ARE FOR 709 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,920 THE OTHER PROGRAMS, AND ONE OR 710 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,440 MORE OF THOSE MAJOR USERS CAN 711 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,520 ACTUALLY BE A COURSE. 712 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,600 SO AGAIN, THAT'S A REALLY 713 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,360 IMPORTANT DISTINCTION, WHICH 714 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,880 WILL ALLOW, I THINK, THIS 715 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,320 PROGRAM TO REALLY BE IMPACTFUL 716 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,720 IN TERMS OF BUILDING RESEARCH 717 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,680 AND EDUCATIONAL CAPACITY AT 718 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,000 INSTITUTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 719 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,480 AND BOTH THESE NOFOs ARE OUT. 720 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,200 THE DATE FOR THE FIRST ONE IS 721 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,280 JUNE 5TH AND THE FIRST DUE DATE 722 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,840 FOR THE SECOND ONE IS JULY 3RD. 723 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,880 BUT THERE WILL BE FOR THE FIRST 724 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,880 ONE, THREE DUE DATES A YEAR, AND 725 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,160 THE OTHER ONE WILL, I THINK, BE 726 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,720 ONCE A YEAR. 727 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,560 THEN FINALLY, THE STRENGTHENING 728 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,520 RESEARCH OPPORTUNITIES FOR NIH 729 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,360 GRANTS OR STRONG PROGRAM HAS 730 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:51,480 BEEN LAUNCHED. 731 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,120 THIS WAS DEVELOPED AND LED BY 732 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:54,560 THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF 733 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,400 MINORITY HEALTH AND HEALTH 734 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,720 DISPARITIES AND OUR COLLEAGUES 735 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,600 THERE: IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE 736 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,240 SUPPORT FOR RESOURCE-LIMITED 737 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,240 INSTITUTIONS TO CONDUCT RESEARCH 738 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,040 CAPACITY NEEDS ASSESSMENTS, SO 739 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,240 FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS 740 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,080 IN TERMS OF BUILDING THEIR 741 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,960 RESEARCH CAPACITY, AND THEN USE 742 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,280 THE RESULTS OF THOSE NEEDS 743 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,800 ASSESSMENTS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIC 744 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,440 ACTION PLANS FOR HOW THEY CAN 745 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,080 ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS AND OVERCOME 746 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,800 THE OBSTACLES. 747 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,920 THIS IS ALSO OUT, THIS NOFO IS 748 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,000 ALSO OUT AND THE FIRST 749 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,560 APPLICATION DUE DATE IS 750 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,760 SEPTEMBER 18TH, AND THIS WILL BE 751 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,720 PAIRED WITH -- WE TALKED LAST 752 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,720 TIME ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT'S 753 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:37,880 BEING DEVELOPED BY SEDELA BL ACH 754 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,640 AND COLLEAGUES WHICH WILL ALLOW 755 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,520 INSTITUTIONS FUND TO DO 756 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,520 DIFFERENT CAPACITY BUILDING 757 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:41,960 ACTIVITIES. 758 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,560 SO THIS, THE S10 THAT I TOLD YOU 759 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,880 ABOUT JUST A MINUTE AGO, ALL ARE 760 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,040 KIND OF A PART OF A PACKAGE TO 761 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,000 HELP UNDERRESOURCED INSTITUTIONS 762 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,120 BUILD THEIR RESEARCH AND 763 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:53,960 EDUCATIONAL CAPACITIES. 764 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,200 SO I'M REALLY PLEASED BY THAT. 765 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,720 IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, 766 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,160 WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD 767 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,760 ON THIS, BUT NOW TO SEE THESE 768 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,840 NOFOs COMING OUT IS REALLY 769 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,720 EXCITING AND I THINK IT'S GOING 770 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,800 TO BE VERY IMPACTFUL IN TERMS OF 771 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,040 DEVELOPING MANY INSTITUTIONS 772 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,440 ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF 773 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,920 THEIR ABILITY TO SPONSOR 774 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,200 RESEARCH AND TRAIN STUDENTS MORE 775 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,720 EFFICIENTLY. 776 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,040 FINALLY, UNITE HAS ALSO 777 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,320 DEVELOPED A PRIZE TO RECOGNIZE 778 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,640 INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE DONE 779 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,600 EXCEPTIONAL THINGS TO PROMOTE 780 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,480 DEIA. 781 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,560 THIS IS TO GIVE SORT OF A CARROT 782 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,840 IN ADDITION TO VARIOUS PUSHES IN 783 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,800 THE SYSTEM. 784 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,880 SO THIS WILL RECOGNIZE 785 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,640 SUCCESSFUL INITIATIVES AT 786 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,400 ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE 787 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,360 HELPED TO CREATE INCLUSIVE AND 788 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,960 SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENTS TO 789 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,560 PROMOTE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND 790 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,320 INCLUSION AND ACCESSIBILITY. 791 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,920 THERE WILL BE UP TO 10 PRIZES 792 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,880 GIVEN, EACH FOR AROUND $100,000, 793 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,640 AND YOU CAN LEARN MORE BY GOING 794 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,840 TO THAT WEBSITE. 795 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,720 AND THE IDEA HERE IS, AGAIN, 796 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,960 JUST TO RECOGNIZE EXCELLENCE AT 797 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,320 INSTITUTIONS TO HELP THROUGH 798 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,240 THAT RECOGNITION TO DISSEMINATE 799 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,200 BEST PRACTICES IN DEIA, AND THEN 800 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,640 TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF 801 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,520 HEALTHY COMPETITION. 802 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,040 I THINK ONCE INSTITUTIONS SEE 803 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800 THEIR PEERS WINNING THESE 804 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,880 PRIZES, THEY WILL ALSO WANT TO 805 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,440 WIN THESE PRIZES AND PUT IT UP 806 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,640 ON THEIR WEBSITES AND USE IT FOR 807 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,520 RECRUITMENT PURPOSES, ET CETERA. 808 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,880 SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A 809 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 POSITIVE FOR THE WHOLE 810 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,680 ECOSYSTEM. 811 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,480 UNITE HAS ALSO HELPED PUSH 812 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,680 FORWARD AN IMPORTANT POLICY 813 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,760 UPDATE I WANTED TO MAKE YOU 814 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,480 AWARE OF, WHICH IS THAT IT IS 815 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,800 NOW A REQUIREMENT FOR ALL NIH 816 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,120 GRANTEE INSTITUTIONS TO HAVE 817 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,320 BEHAVIORAL CODES OF CONDUCT. 818 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,960 AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU MIGHT 819 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,480 HAVE THOUGHT WAS ALREADY TRUE 820 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,880 BUT TURNS OUT WE ONLY HAD A 821 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,000 REQUIREMENT FOR CODES OF CONDUCT 822 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,520 IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL CONFLICT 823 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,160 OF INTEREST. 824 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,640 SO NOW THAT'S BEEN EXPANDED, 825 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,880 THIS IS PART OF THE GRANTS 826 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440 POLICY STATEMENT WHICH MEANS 827 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,120 THAT IT IS A CONDITION OF AWARD 828 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:57,440 SO WHEN IT'S GIVEN THE 829 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,080 INSTITUTION HAS TO HAVE A 830 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,920 BEHAVIORAL CODE OF CONDUCT THAT 831 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,920 COVERS THINGS SUCH AS THAT THE 832 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,080 ENVIRONMENTS ARE FREE OF 833 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,280 DISCRIMINATORY HARASSMENT AND 834 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,760 ARE SAFE AND CO CONDUCIVE TO HIH 835 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,560 QUALITY WORK. 836 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,040 WE HOPE ALL OUR INSTITUTIONS A 837 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,400 ALREADY HAVE THAT BUT THIS IS AN 838 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,560 ASSURANCE THAT THEY DO AND THAT 839 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,000 THEY TAKE A SECOND LOOK TO MAKE 840 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,320 SURE THEY'RE ADEQUATE, BUT IT 841 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,560 ALSO GIVES NIH MORE THAN OF A MR 842 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,320 WHEN THINGS GO WRONG SO IF THERE 843 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,280 ARE ALLEGATIONS OF HARASSMENT OR 844 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,080 DISCRIMINATION IT'S NOW IN THE 845 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,320 TERMS OF CONDITION OF AWARD THAT 846 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,880 THEY HAVE TO HAVE THESE CODES OF 847 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,880 CONDUCT AND THEY HAVE TO BE 848 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,400 FOLLOWING THEM. 849 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,520 SO IF THEY'RE NOT, WE HAVE MORE 850 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,000 LEGAL LEVERS TO PULL. 851 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,440 SO I THINK THAT'S ALSO AN 852 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,360 IMPORTANT UPDATE AND I HOPE 853 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:41,560 YOU'LL HELP US SPREAD THE WORD 854 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,480 THAT THAT IS NOW THE CASE. 855 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,800 I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT AN 856 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,280 INITIATIVE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON 857 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,200 LED BY THE CENTER FOR SCIENTIFIC 858 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,160 REVIEW RELATED TO FELLOWSHIP 859 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,680 APPLICATIONS. 860 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,640 THE NATIONAL RESEARCH SERVICE 861 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,520 AWARD FELLOWSHIP APPLICATIONS. 862 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,920 THE BACKGROUND HERE IS THAT 863 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,800 THERE HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT 864 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,280 CONCERNS AND WE AT NIGMS HAVE 865 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,480 SHARED THESE CONCERNS FOR A LONG 866 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,920 TIME, THAT THE WAY FELLOWSHIPS 867 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,600 ARE CONSTRUCTED AND THE REVIEW 868 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,960 IS DONE DISADVANTAGES MANY 869 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,800 HIGHLY QUALIFIED PROMTIONING PRG 870 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,880 APPLICANTS BECAUSE THE REVIEWS 871 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,880 REALLY FOCUS ON ISSUES OF 872 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,920 PEDIGREE AND INSTITUTIONAL 873 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,440 RECOGNITION, YOU KNOW, THE 874 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,520 QUOTE-UNQUOTE ELITENESS OF AN 875 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,040 INSTITUTION, HOW MUCH FUNDING 876 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,840 INVESTIGATORS HAVE AND THINGS OF 877 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,600 THAT NATURE. 878 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,120 RATHER THAN ON HOW MUCH PROMISE 879 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,120 THE INDIVIDUAL IN QUESTION HAS. 880 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,320 AND SO CSR HEARD THESE CONCERNS, 881 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,520 THEY PUT TOGETHER A WORKING 882 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,080 GROUP OF THEIR COUNCIL TO LOOK 883 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,120 AT THIS, AND ACTUALLY ALISON 884 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:44,640 GAMMI, I THINK KENNEDY GIBBS 885 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,720 WERE BOTH INVOLVED IN THIS, THEY 886 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,200 LOOKED AT A LOT OF DATA AND THE 887 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,160 DATA SUPPORT THIS CONTENTION 888 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240 THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THE 889 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,000 BIASED NATURE OF THE REVIEWS. 890 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,320 WHAT THEY FOUND WAS A SMALL 891 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,080 NUMBER OF INSTITUTIONS SUBMIT A 892 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720 MAJORITY OF THE APPLICATIONS, 893 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,320 AND WHEN THEY DO, THEIRS DO 894 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,480 SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER IN REVIEW 895 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,480 AND ALSO APPLICATIONS IN WHICH 896 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,680 THE SPONSOR OF THE FELLOW IS 897 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,880 SENIOR AND HAS SIGNIFICANT 898 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,080 FUNDING ALSO DO BETTER IN 899 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:16,400 REVIEW. 900 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480 SO THOSE ARE OUR KIND OF HARD 901 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,680 BAKED BIASES IN THE SYSTEM. 902 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,760 THEY PUT OUT A BLOG TELLING THE 903 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,600 COMMUNITY ABOUT THESE DATA AND 904 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,920 INVITING PEOPLE TO PUT IN 905 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,160 COMMENTS, AND THE STRONG 906 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,200 CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMENTS WAS 907 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,120 THAT THE COMMUNITY FELT THAT 908 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:33,520 THERE WERE BIAS THAT FAVOR 909 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,160 WELL-FUNDED LABS AND SENIOR 910 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,760 SCIENTISTS AT WELL-FUNDED 911 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,080 INSTITUTIONS. 912 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,200 SO THE WORKING GROUP'S 913 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,080 CONCLUSION WAS THAT NIH IS 914 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,280 PROBABLY LEAVING OUT A LOT OF 915 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,800 PROMISING TALENT BECAUSE OF THE 916 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,080 WAY THIS FELLOWSHIP REVIEW 917 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,720 SKEWS, AND THAT SOMETHING NEEDED 918 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,560 TO BE DONE TO MAKE IT A MORE 919 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,920 EVEN PLAYING FIELD. 920 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,040 SO THE MAJOR RECOMMENDATIONS 921 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,280 WERE TO REVISE THE REVIEW 922 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,360 CRITERIA AND TO REVISE THE 923 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,640 FELLOWSHIP APPLICATION ITSELF TO 924 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,080 ALIGN WITH THOSE REVIEW 925 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,400 CRITERIA. 926 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,840 SO THE MAJOR MODIFICATIONS ARE 927 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,240 THAT THEY WANT TO FOCUS THE 928 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,200 REVIEWER'S ATTENTION ON THREE 929 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,640 KEY THINGS: THE POTENTIAL OF 930 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680 THE APPLICANT, THE STRENGTH OF 931 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,080 THE SCIENCE THAT THE APPLICANT 932 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,520 IS GOING TO CONDUCT, AND THE 933 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,840 QUALITY OF THE TRAINING PLAN 934 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,680 SPECIFIC TO THAT APPLICANT. 935 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,120 NOT JUST SORT OF IN GENERAL BUT 936 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,280 SPECIFIC TO THAT M AL CAN'T. 937 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,000 SO THEY WANT TO FIND THE 938 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,560 CRITERIA TO FOCUS ON THE 939 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,760 APPLICANT'S POTENTIAL BY 940 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,720 EVALUATING THE PERSON'S 941 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,680 ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THEIR 942 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,240 TRAJECTORY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE 943 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,360 OPPORTUNITY THAT THAT APPLICANT 944 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,040 HAS HAD. 945 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,120 SO THESE THINGS ARE VERY 946 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,520 CONTEXT-DEPENDENT. 947 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000 IF YOU WENT TO A SMALL LIBERAL 948 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,400 ARTS COLLEGE, YOU'RE GOING TO 949 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,840 HAVE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES 950 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,360 PRESENTED THAN IF YOU WENT TO A 951 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,880 MAJOR RESEARCH INSTITUTION FOR 952 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,960 YOUR UNDERGRADUATE. 953 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,280 SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TAKING 954 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,480 INTO ACCOUNT OF THE DIFFERENT 955 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,760 OPPORTUNITIES PEOPLE HAVE WHEN 956 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,960 YOU'RE ASSESSING THEIR 957 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:01,320 POTENTIAL. 958 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,360 AND IN ADDITION TO 959 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,240 ACCOMPLISHMENTS, THEY WANT TO 960 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,000 EVALUATE PERSONAL 961 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,200 CHARACTERISTICS THAT CONTRIBUTE 962 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,680 TO SUCCESS. 963 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,400 SO WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THINGS 964 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,480 LIKE GRIT AND DETERMINATION AND 965 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,600 PERSEVERANCE, SO LOOKING FOR 966 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,440 WAYS TO MEASURE THAT IS GOING TO 967 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520 BE IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS. 968 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,040 THEY WANT TO REDUCE THE BIAS IN 969 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,080 REVIEW BY REDUCING INAPPROPRIATE 970 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,680 CONSIDERATION OF THE SPONSOR, 971 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,360 HOW MUCH FUNDING THE SPONSOR 972 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,360 HAS, HOW MANY PEOPLE THE SPONSOR 973 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,000 HAS TRAINED, AS WELL AS THE 974 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,520 INSTITUTIONAL REPUTATION. 975 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,960 AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT THE 976 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,360 POTENTIAL OF THE FELLOW AND 977 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,440 SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT HOW FAMOUS 978 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,400 THE INSTITUTION IS OR HOW FAMOUS 979 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,400 THE SPONSOR IS. 980 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,400 SO THEY ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE 981 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,640 APPLICANTS' SCIENTIFIC THINKING, 982 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,240 THEIR NEEDS, THEIR GOALS, AND A 983 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,440 BROADER STATEMENT OF 984 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,240 QUALIFICATIONS, SO THOSE WILL 985 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,000 ALL BE NOW PARTS OF THE 986 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,200 APPLICATION VERY MUCH EMPHASIZED 987 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,600 WHEREAS GRADES WHICH PREVIOUSLY 988 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,440 WERE ACQUIRED IN THE 989 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,880 APPLICATION, THEIR UNDERGRADUATE 990 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,160 GRADES IF THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A 991 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,400 GRADUATE FELLOWSHIP OR GRADUATE 992 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,360 GRADES IF THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A 993 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,080 POSTDOCTORAL FELLOWSHIP WILL NOT 994 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,720 BE REQUIRED AND ACTUALLY WON'T 995 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,720 BE ACCEPTED ANYMORE. 996 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,480 THAT SEEMED TO BE VERY BROADLY 997 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,800 AGREED THAT BY THE TIME YOU'RE 998 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,840 AT THIS STAGE, WHAT YOUR 999 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,640 UNDERGRADUATE GRADES WERE OR 1000 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,400 WHAT YOUR GRADUATE GRADES WERE 1001 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,680 ARE NOT THE KEY ISSUE. 1002 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000 THEY WANT GREATER EMPHASIS ON 1003 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,840 THE SPONSOR'S MENTORSHIP 1004 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160 APPROACHES AND PLAN FOR, AGAIN, 1005 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,360 FOR THIS PARTICULAR STUDENT. 1006 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,000 NOT JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT OF 1007 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,520 THIS IS HOW I APPROACH 1008 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,520 MENTORING, BUT WHAT DOES THIS 1009 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,280 STUDENT NEED, HOW WILL I HELP 1010 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,320 THIS PARTICULAR STUDENT ACHIEVE 1011 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,640 THEIR GOALS AND WHAT'S THE PLAN 1012 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,440 TO DO THAT. 1013 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960 AND THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT WILL 1014 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,200 BE TARGETED -- AND HAVE TARGETED 1015 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,960 TRAINEE-SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 1016 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,520 SO WE KNOW FROM THE LITERATURE 1017 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,800 ON LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT THE 1018 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,200 MORE DEFINED THEY CAN BE, THE 1019 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,640 MORE RUBRIC-LIKE CAN BE, THE 1020 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,360 MORE ONE CAN REDUCE BIAS AND I 1021 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,240 THINK THAT'S THE IDEA HERE. 1022 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,440 THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE AN 1023 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,400 OPTIONAL STATEMENT FOR SPECIAL 1024 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:01,720 CIRCUMSTANCES. 1025 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,280 THOSE CAN BE THINGS LIKE 1026 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,880 HARASSMENT THAT HAPPENED TO THE 1027 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,800 TRAINEE AT SOME MOINT IN THEIR R 1028 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,240 CAREER, THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, 1029 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,160 THEIR FAMILY, THAT WILL BE 1030 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,360 CONSIDERED IN THE PEER REVIEW 1031 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,160 PROCESS AS A FACTOR. 1032 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,480 SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP EVEN 1033 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,520 THE PLANNING FIELD, LESSEN THOSE 1034 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,200 BIASES AND GET US A BROADER POOL 1035 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,280 OF HIGHLY TALENTED INDIVIDUALS 1036 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,080 TO SUPPORT WITH FELLOWSHIPS. 1037 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,520 CSR IS SEEKING YOUR INPUT. 1038 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,920 THEY'VE PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR 1039 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,680 INFORMATION ON THESE CHANGES, SO 1040 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,160 YOU CAN GO TO THAT NOT-OD-23-110 1041 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,520 AND FIND OUT INFORMATION. 1042 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,160 RESPONSES ARE DUE JUNE 23RD SO 1043 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,160 STILL PLENTY OF TIME. 1044 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,760 I HOPE YOU'LL RESPOND AS 1045 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,560 INDIVIDUALS OR GET YOUR 1046 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,320 INSTITUTION TO RESPOND. 1047 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,600 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEY 1048 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,280 HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS SET UP FOR 1049 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,480 THAT. 1050 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:56,720 OKAY. 1051 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,000 NOW THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR 1052 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,520 WHEN I TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT 1053 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,680 HAPPENED IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR 1054 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,680 IN TERMS OF FUNDING. 1055 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,680 SO I WILL DO THAT. 1056 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,000 BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO 1057 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,960 YOU THAT WE HAVE A FEEDBACK LOOP 1058 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,360 POST UP ABOUT ALL THIS AND YOU 1059 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,880 GET A LOT MORE INFORMATION, A 1060 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,080 LOT MORE GRANULARITY IF YOU GO 1061 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:13,560 TO THAT. 1062 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,880 BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU 1063 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,440 AN OVERVIEW. 1064 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,600 I'M GOING TO START WITH THE 1065 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,680 EARLY STAGE INVESTIGATORS, SO AS 1066 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,120 YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER A KEY GOAL 1067 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,320 OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO 1068 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,800 ENHANCE OUR SUPPORT FOR EARLY 1069 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,600 STAGE INVESTIGATORS BECAUSE 1070 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,760 THAT'S THE FUTURE OF SCIENCE. 1071 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,760 AND THIS SHOWS THE NUMBER OF 1072 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,840 EARLY STAGE INVESTIGATORS THAT 1073 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,080 NIGMS FUNDED, NEW EARLY STAGE 1074 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,960 INVESTIGATOR GRANTS EACH YEAR, 1075 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,080 SO THESE ARE COMPETING GRANTS. 1076 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,480 2013 TO 2022. 1077 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,560 YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN 1078 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,760 A STRONG STEADY GROWTH FROM 1079 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,120 ABOUT 90 TO OVER 300 LAST FISCAL 1080 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,880 YEAR. 1081 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,040 SO THREE FOLD INCREASE IN THE 1082 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,800 NUMBER WE'VE FUNDED IN THAT 1083 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,160 PERIOD. 1084 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,840 AND SINCE THE START OF MIRA, THE 1085 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,400 FIRST MIRA GRANTS WERE IN AGAIN 1086 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,840 16, WE'VE NEARLY DOUBLED THE 1087 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,800 NUMBER OF INVESTIGATORS WE'RE 1088 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,200 FUNDING EACH YEAR SO REALLY 1089 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,840 QUITE IMPRESSIVE. 1090 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,960 WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AWARDS MADE, 1091 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,240 FISCAL YEAR 2022, 31 R01s 1092 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,120 GIVEN TO EARLY STAGE 1093 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,880 INVESTIGATORS. 1094 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,720 268 MIRAs, R35s, AND 20 1095 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,240 DP2 NEW INNOVATOR AWARDS. 1096 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:27,880 SO 85% OF THE EARLY STAGE 1097 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,640 INVESTIGATORS WE FUNDED LAST 1098 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,400 YEAR WERE FUNDED THROUGH MIRA, 1099 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,360 AND FROM THE START OF THE 1100 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,920 PROGRAM, THIS HAS BEEN GROWING, 1101 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,120 STARTED OUT ABOUT 50%, NOW IT'S 1102 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,720 85%. 1103 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:40,800 AND SO IN THAT SAME TIME, AS I 1104 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,560 SAID WE'VE DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF 1105 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,000 AWARDEES, BUT ALSO HAD A SORT OF 1106 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,280 SIMILAR INCREASE IN THE NUMBER 1107 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,960 OF APPLICANTS FROM EARLY STAGE 1108 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,160 INVESTIGATORS. 1109 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,440 SO THE MIRA PROGRAM DOES APPEAR 1110 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,880 TO HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMATIVE IN 1111 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120 TERMS OF HOW MANY EARLY STAGE 1112 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,320 INVESTIGATORS ARE BOTH APPLYING 1113 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:03,160 AND GETTING FUNDED BY NIGMS. 1114 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,760 ANOTHER METRIC WE FOCUS ON, AND 1115 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,040 THIS IS AGAIN PART OF OUR 1116 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,920 STRATEGIC PLAN, IS THE NUMBER OF 1117 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,600 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE FUNDED BY 1118 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,560 NIGMS, WHO ARE FUNDED BY NIGMS. 1119 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,520 AND WE USE SOMETHING CALLED THE 1120 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,960 CUMULATIVE INVESTIGATOR RATE TO 1121 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,240 LOOK AT THIS. 1122 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:21,520 STHIS IN EACH FISCAL YEAR SHOWS 1123 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,080 THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO 1124 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,840 EITHER APPLIED FOR AN NIGMS 1125 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,120 RESEARCH GRANT IN THAT FISCAL 1126 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,560 YEAR OR IN THE PRECEDING FOUR 1127 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,720 FISCAL YEARS, WHO HAVE AT LEAST 1128 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:30,640 ONE NIGMS RESEARCH GRANT. 1129 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,280 SO AGAIN, IT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF 1130 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,800 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE FUNDED BY 1131 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,640 NIGMS WHO ARE FUNDED BY NIGMS. 1132 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,320 AND SINCE 2013, THIS HAS GONE 1133 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,720 FROM ABOUT 33% TO ABOUT 45%. 1134 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,440 SO ABOUT 45% OF THE PEOPLE LAST 1135 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,520 FISCAL YEAR WHO WANTED AN NIGMS 1136 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,520 GRANT HAD AT LEAST ONE NIGMS 1137 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:49,960 GRANT. 1138 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,240 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT STEADY 1139 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:53,040 GROWTH IN THAT. 1140 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,560 AND AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF OUR 1141 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,520 STRATEGIC PLAN, IS FOCUSING ON 1142 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,520 FUNDING MORE INVESTIGATORS 1143 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,120 BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATORS ARE 1144 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,200 THE ONES WITH THE IDEAS, THEY'RE 1145 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,320 DRIVING THE INNOVATION, THEY'RE 1146 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,720 DRIVING THE SCIENCE FORWARD, SO 1147 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:06,760 FUNDING MORE PEOPLE IS GOING TO 1148 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,680 GET US MORE IDEAS, MORE 1149 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,200 INNOVATION, AND MORE SCIENCE 1150 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,520 PRODUCTIVITY DONE. 1151 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,200 WE ARE, IN FACT, I THINK MEETING 1152 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,120 THE GOAL OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN 1153 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:23,840 IN THAT RESPECT. 1154 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,360 THE OTHER THING WE ALWAYS 1155 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,240 TRADITIONALLY LOOK AT IS AN 1156 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,520 APPLICATION-BASED METRIC, SO 1157 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,280 THIS IS COMPETING RESEARCH GRANT 1158 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,920 SUCCESS RATE. 1159 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,080 RPGs OR R01s, MIRAs, ET 1160 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,320 CETERA. 1161 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,760 YOU CAN LOOK UP ONLINE WHAT THE 1162 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,800 NUMBER OF GRANTS ARE. 1163 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,920 BUT THESE ARE BASICALLY OUR POOL 1164 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,760 OF RESEARCH GRANTS. 1165 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,920 THE SUCCESS RATE IS THE -- IN 1166 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,880 EACH FISCAL YEAR IS THE NUMBER 1167 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,280 OF APPLICATIONS THAT GOT FUNDED 1168 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,400 DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF UNIQUE 1169 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,080 APPLICATIONS. 1170 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,440 AND SO IN 2013, THAT WAS 20%. 1171 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:01,480 IT'S GROWN NOW IN 2022 TO BE 1172 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,680 ALMOST 36%, SO REALLY STRONG 1173 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,440 GROWTH IN THE SUCCESS RATE FOR 1174 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,520 RESEARCH PROJECT GRANTS. 1175 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,080 THAT'S ABOUT WHERE WE WANT IT, 1176 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120 I'D SAY LOW 30s, MID 30s IS 1177 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,560 A VERY HEALTHY POINT FOR THE 1178 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,440 SUCCESS RATE TO BE. 1179 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,440 AND SO WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH 1180 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,960 THAT AND HOPE TO BE ABLE TO 1181 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,600 MAINTAIN IT SOMEWHERE IN THAT 1182 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,120 VICINITY. 1183 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,200 AND THEN FINALLY, IF WE LOOK AT 1184 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,320 OUR OVERALL MIRA POOL, SO ONE OF 1185 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,840 OUR STRATEGIC GOALS IN OUR 1186 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,840 STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO, BY 2025, 1187 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,880 HAVE 60% OF OUR R01 EQUIVALENT 1188 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,320 GRANTS BE MIRAs. 1189 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,360 AND SO THE PROGRAM STARTED 1190 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,120 FUNDING IN 2016, SO IN 2015, BY 1191 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,320 DEFINITION, THERE WERE 0% 1192 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,760 MIRAs IN THAT POOL. 1193 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,360 BY 2022, WE'RE UP TO 48%. 1194 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,600 AND YOU CAN SEE THIS HAS BEEN 1195 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,160 GROWING BASICALLY LINEARLY EVERY 1196 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,240 YEAR OF THE PROGRAM. 1197 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:58,160 SO WE ARE WELL ON TRACK TO BY 1198 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,520 2025 HAVE THAT 60% MARK. 1199 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,360 IN FACT, IF ALL GOES ACCORDING 1200 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,560 TO THIS LINE, I THINK IN 2024, 1201 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,640 WE SHOULD PROBABLY HIT IT. 1202 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,000 SO WE'RE ON TRACK, AND IT REALLY 1203 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,280 DOES SEEM TO BE TAKING OFF THE 1204 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,160 WAY WE HOPED IT WOULD, AND THE 1205 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,040 MORE PERCENTAGE WE HAVE, THE 1206 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,960 MORE TRANSFORMATIVE THIS PROGRAM 1207 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,480 IS GOING TO BE. 1208 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,880 AND SO 60% IS OUR TARGET BUT I 1209 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,320 HOPE IT'S GOING TO GROW SOMEWHAT 1210 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,920 PAST THAT AT LEAST. 1211 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,720 SO I JUST WANTED TO END, WE HAD 1212 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:31,640 A DISCUSSION MAYBE THE LAST 1213 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,400 COUNCIL OR THE COUNCIL BEFORE 1214 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,280 ABOUT HOW NIGMS COULD MORE 1215 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,400 EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH OUR 1216 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,360 CONSTITUENTS, WHETHER THEY BE 1217 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,000 RESEARCHERS, TRAINEES, THE 1218 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,040 GENERAL PUBLIC, OR OTHERS. 1219 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,560 SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE 1220 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,240 BIT OF AN UPDATE ON HOW WE'RE 1221 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,800 THINKING ABOUT THAT NOW AND GIVE 1222 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,640 YOU SOMETHING TO REACT TO. 1223 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,280 AT SOME LEVEL THE MESSAGE IS 1224 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,160 WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE FUTURE. 1225 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,960 AND HISTORICALLY, THE FEEDBACK 1226 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,280 LOOP BLOG HAS BEEN OUR MAIN WAY 1227 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,160 OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE 1228 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,520 COMMUNITY. 1229 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,360 IT A PLACE WHERE THERE'S A 1230 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,680 PERMANENT -- ESSENTIALLY 1231 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,880 PERMANENT RECORD OF WHAT WE 1232 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,720 SAID. 1233 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,280 PEOPLE CAN MAKE COMMENTS IF THEY 1234 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,520 WANT, WE CAN RESPOND TO THOSE 1235 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,560 COMMENTS IF IT'S APPROPRIATE. 1236 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,280 AND WE HAVE A FORMAT WHERE WE 1237 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,440 CAN INCLUDE DATA, HAVE A LONGER 1238 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,480 DISCUSSION OF THE ISSUES AND OUR 1239 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,320 RATIONALE FOR DOING THINGS. 1240 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,920 SO WE ARE KIND OF DOUBLING DOWN 1241 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,360 ON THAT. 1242 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,880 WE THINK THAT THIS REALLY IS THE 1243 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,280 BEST WAY FOR US TO GET 1244 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,400 INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY. 1245 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,600 WE CAN PUSH THESE OUT BY EMAILS 1246 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,560 TO ALL OF OUR GRANTEES, ALL OF 1247 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,680 OUR RECENT APPLICANTS, ALL OF 1248 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,320 OUR TRAINEES IF WE WANT TO. 1249 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,520 PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP TO RECEIVE 1250 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,640 EITHER DIGESTS OF THE POSTS OR 1251 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,600 EACH ONE AS THEY COME OUT. 1252 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,640 SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE USING 1253 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,080 THIS AS OUR PRIMARY MODE OF 1254 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,080 COMMUNICATION ALONG WITH THOSE 1255 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,400 EMAILS. 1256 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,520 I KNOW THAT SOUNDS SOMEWHAT 1257 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,280 RETRO, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO US TO 1258 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,840 BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET 1259 00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,200 INFORMATION OUT. 1260 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,920 IN TERMS OF SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'RE 1261 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,360 LAUNCHING A NEW INITIATIVE TO 1262 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,720 INCREASE OUR USE OF LINKEDIN, SO 1263 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,680 WE NOW HAVE OUR OWN LINKEDIN 1264 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,400 PAGE THAT WE'VE RECENTLY 1265 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:11,920 LAUNCHED. 1266 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,200 IT'S ACTUALLY GONE UP BY 50% IN 1267 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,360 TERMS OF THE META FOLLOWERS 1268 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,680 SINCE WE DID A SOFT LAUNCH OF 1269 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:21,880 IT. 1270 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,080 WE'RE GOING TO START A HARDER 1271 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,960 LAUNCH BASICALLY WITH THIS 1272 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,160 PRESENTATION IN COUNCIL, WE'LL 1273 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,920 BE TRYING TO AMP UP THE 1274 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,320 PUBLICITY -- THIS IS THE SECOND 1275 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,320 MAJOR MODE OF COMMUNICATION 1276 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,240 WE'RE GOING TO BE USING. 1277 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:34,560 IT'S A WAY TO SHARE INFORMATION 1278 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,560 ON THINGS LIKE FUNDING 1279 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,760 OPPORTUNITIES, JOB 1280 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,160 ANNOUNCEMENTS, EDUCATION 1281 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,520 RESOURCES, FOCUSES THAT WE WRITE 1282 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,680 ON WREE SEARCHERS THEMSELVES. 1283 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,000 IT'S A PROFESSIONAL PLATFORM, SO 1284 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,320 IT HAS AN AUDIENCE THAT WE HOPE 1285 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,840 WE'LL BE ABLE TO APPROPRIATELY 1286 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,760 ENGAGE WITH, AND WE ENCOURAGE 1287 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,240 ALL OF YOU, IF YOU HAVE LINKEDIN 1288 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,240 ACCOUNTS, TO BECOME OUR FRIENDS 1289 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:56,640 OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED ON 1290 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,120 LINKEDIN, I DON'T KNOW, AND SEE 1291 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,920 HOW THAT'S WORKING. 1292 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,200 WE'D LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW 1293 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,040 WE CAN MORE EFFECTIVELY USE THIS 1294 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,400 PLATFORM. 1295 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,280 SO JUST TO END AND OPEN THE 1296 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,680 DISCUSSION, HERE ARE A COUPLE OF 1297 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,000 QUESTIONS THAT I'D CERTAINLY 1298 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,520 VALUE YOUR INPUT ON THAT ARE 1299 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,600 TIMELY AND TOPICAL, BUT ANYTHING 1300 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,600 YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT I'VE 1301 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,040 TALKED ABOUT OR OTHER ISSUES 1302 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,160 YOU'D LIKE TO BRING UP ARE ALL 1303 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,000 THINGS WE'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT. 1304 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,640 THE FIRST, HOW SHOULD WE DEAL 1305 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,080 WITH THE GROWING COST OF DATA 1306 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:27,440 STORAGE? 1307 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,240 WE'RE IN THIS MASSIVE DAY A 1308 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,880 GROWTH ENVIRONMENT WHERE DATA 1309 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,000 ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE 1310 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:35,800 IMPORTANT. 1311 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,280 YOU'RE SEEING GENERATIVE A.I. 1312 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,600 AND THEIR USE OF DATA. 1313 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,720 OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO 1314 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:42,560 BECOME INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT, 1315 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,400 BUT THE FACT IS THAT THE COST OF 1316 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,520 DATA STORAGE IS NOT DECREASING 1317 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,000 AT THE SAME RATE AS THE AMOUNT 1318 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,440 OF DATA IS INCREASING. 1319 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,680 SO THE COSTS ARE GOING UPMENT 1320 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,880 THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING UP 1321 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,720 POSSIBLY EXPONENTIALLY, AND 1322 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:59,040 NOTHING CAN SURVIVE WITH 1323 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,320 EXPONENTIAL COST INCREASE, 1324 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,720 RIGHT? 1325 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,280 SO WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT 1326 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,200 WAYS THAT WE CAN MORE EFFICI 1327 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,920 EFFICIENTLY STORE DATA AND A WAY 1328 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,720 WE CAN DECIDE WHAT DATA ACTUALLY 1329 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:12,920 NEED TO BE STORED IN THE LONG 1330 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,840 TERM AND WHEN WE CAN MAYBE, YOU 1331 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,040 KNOW, DECOMMISSION DATA SO TO 1332 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:18,560 SPEAK. 1333 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,880 ONE USEFUL EXAMPLE THAT WE'RE 1334 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,560 DEALING WITH IN REALTIME IS 1335 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,720 SEQUENCE READ ARCHIVE THAT NCBI 1336 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,480 RUNS, WHICH IS WHERE THE RAW 1337 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,000 SEQUENCE READS FROM LARGE 1338 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,040 SEQUENCING EXPERIMENTS GO, BOTH 1339 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,760 HUMAN AND NON-HUMAN, AND THE 1340 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,080 COSTS OF THOSE ARE GROWING AT 1341 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,600 LEAST LINEARLY, POSSIBLY 1342 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,480 EXPONENTIALLY, AT AN 1343 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,520 INTERESTING -- SOME INTERESTING 1344 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,000 ISSUES ARE WHO'S USING THESE 1345 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,640 DATA, HOW USEFUL ARE THEY FOR 1346 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,160 THE OVERALL COMMUNITY, HOW LONG 1347 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,040 SHOULD THEY BE STORED, WHEN IS 1348 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,160 IT BETTER TO JUST REGENERATE THE 1349 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,640 DATA BECAUSE THE COSTS ARE LESS 1350 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,120 THAN STORING THE DATA, IS A 1351 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,400 QUESTION THAT I THINK WE'RE 1352 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,680 WRESTLING WITH, AND FINALLY, 1353 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,320 WITH SRA, AN INTERESTING FEATURE 1354 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560 OF IT IS THAT THE REAL COST OF 1355 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,040 THE DATA IS NOT THE ACTUAL 1356 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,840 SEQUENCE THEMSELVES, IT'S THE 1357 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,120 METADATA ASSOCIATED WITH THE 1358 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,440 SEQUENCES. 1359 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,840 AND SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING 1360 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,120 NUANCE TO THINK ABOUT, HOW DO 1361 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,520 YOU DECIDE WHAT METADATA TO 1362 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,160 KEEP. 1363 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,800 THEN BUILDING OFF OF THAT, WE'VE 1364 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,320 TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT THE DATA 1365 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,600 MANAGEMENT AND SHARING POLICY 1366 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,360 THAT JUST BECAME ACTIVE, AND 1367 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,240 WE'VE PUT OUT SOME GUIDANCE THAT 1368 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,160 I'M POINTING YOU TO HERE ABOUT 1369 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,800 HOW NIGMS IS APPROACHING THIS 1370 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,760 NEW DATA MANAGEMENT SHARING 1371 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,400 POLICY AND WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS 1372 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,200 ARE, BUT I'M VERY CURIOUS TO 1373 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,840 HEAR ON THE GROUND WHAT ARE YOU 1374 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,520 HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHAT 1375 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,960 ARE THE CHALLENGES, WHAT ARE THE 1376 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,480 PAIN POINT, WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT 1377 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,120 ISN'T WORKING. 1378 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,480 SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR 1379 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,120 FEEDBACK ON THAT. 1380 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,800 AND THAT IS ALL. 1381 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,520 WE CAN OPEN THE FLOOR TO 1382 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,040 DISCUSSION. 1383 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,080 SO, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, 1384 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:53,480 THOUGHTS? 1385 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,640 I THINK WE HAVE SOME TIME. 1386 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,640 TERRI. 1387 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,680 >>SO YOU SHARED SOME VERY 1388 00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,800 POSITIVE DATA. 1389 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,400 AS YOU LOOK AT THE GRANTS 1390 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,800 FUNDING OVER THE LAST YEAR, WERE 1391 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,800 THERE ANY PLACES WHERE YOU WERE 1392 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,560 DISAPPOINTED, WHERE YOU THOUGHT 1393 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,640 WE WERE MAKING PROGRESS IN TERMS 1394 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,280 OF FUNDING OR FAIRNESS OR 1395 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,480 HOWEVER YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT 1396 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,040 IT THAT NEED MORE WORK? 1397 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,560 >>I GO BACK TO THE FELLOWSHIPS 1398 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,240 AGAIN, AND YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE 1399 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:23,160 SPACE OF INDIVIDUAL AWARDS NOT 1400 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,800 INCLUDING, SAY, MOSAIC WHICH ARE 1401 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,960 FOCUSED ON DIVERSITY AND 1402 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,680 BRINGING IN MORE PEOPLE, BUT THE 1403 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,200 REGULAR FELLOWSHIPS, THE REGULAR 1404 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,520 K99s, THEY ARE ALL GOING TO 1405 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,040 THE SAME INSTITUTIONS. 1406 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,880 THEY ARE MOSTLY GOING TO VERY 1407 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,680 WELL-FUNDED LABS IN THOSE 1408 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,120 INSTITUTIONS. 1409 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,760 AND SO I THINK THIS PROCESS OF 1410 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,160 RE-THINKING THEM IS REALLY 1411 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,560 IMPORTANT. 1412 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,040 WE'VE IN THE PAST LOOKED AT THE 1413 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,680 CURVES FOR INSTITUTIONS VERSUS 1414 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,080 NIH FUNDING VERSUS WHO'S GETTING 1415 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,520 THOSE AWARDS, AND FELLOWSHIPS 1416 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,160 ARE THE MOST SKEWED, THEY'RE 1417 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,280 EVEN MORE SKEWED THAN R01s ARE 1418 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,600 IN TERMS OF THEY ALMOST 1419 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,320 EXCLUSIVELY GO TO THE TOP 25 IN 1420 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,600 TERMS OF NIH FUNDING. 1421 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,640 SO I'M GLAD THAT CSR IS TAKING 1422 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,040 THIS ON. 1423 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,360 I THINK IT WILL BE CHALLENGING 1424 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,680 BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT 1425 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,560 THAT WE WORK ON THAT. 1426 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,040 >>THANK YOU. 1427 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,680 >>WENDY. 1428 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,200 >>I REALLY LIKE THE UNITE PRIZE 1429 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,520 AWARDS. 1430 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,400 I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO 1431 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,640 GET HEALTHY COMPETITION. 1432 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,240 I JUST HAD A CURIOSITY QUESTION. 1433 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:25,480 HOW CAN YOU USE THE PRIZE MONEY? 1434 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,440 ARE THERE RULES AROUND THAT? 1435 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,720 >>THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. 1436 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:31,360 YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO LOOK EXACTLY 1437 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,800 WHAT THE RULES ARE, BUT IT'S 1438 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,920 FAIRLY BROAD AS TO WHAT YOU CAN 1439 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,000 USE IT FOR. 1440 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,760 I DON'T THINK YOU COULD BUY A 1441 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,760 YACHT WITH A PROBABLY, BUT I 1442 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,720 THINK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF 1443 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,120 THINGS THAT ARE TYPICALLY 1444 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,040 ACCEPTABLE, THEY COULD -- THE 1445 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,440 INSTITUTION HAS PRETTY BROAD 1446 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,760 DISCRETION OF WHAT THEY DO WITH 1447 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,240 IT. 1448 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:53,840 >>JUST A NOTE REAL QUICK. 1449 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,880 WHEN YOU'RE ASKING QUESTION, IT 1450 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,840 WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU FACE THE 1451 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,440 MICROPHONE. 1452 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,560 IT'S NOT TRANSLATING WELL 1453 00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:58,880 ONLINE. 1454 00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,680 THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU. 1455 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,760 SO I KNOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT 1456 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,600 JON WHEN YOU ASK IT -- 1457 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,920 >>MAYBE I SHOULD SIT DOWN, THAT 1458 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,840 MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER. 1459 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,800 I'M GOING TO GO OVER AND SIT 1460 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:17,920 DOWN. 1461 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:24,640 OKAY. 1462 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,880 MORE QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS. 1463 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,080 JULIA. 1464 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,440 >>I'LL KEEP US GOING IN ORDER 1465 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:27,760 HERE. 1466 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080 I JUST WANT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT 1467 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,480 AS A NEWER PERSON RUNNING A LAB 1468 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,680 FOR THE CHANGES TO THE 1469 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,560 FELLOWSHIP GUIDELINES. 1470 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,200 THAT WILL HAVE, I THINK, A HUGE 1471 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,160 IMPACT ON NEWER LABS ALSO, 1472 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,560 BECAUSE I'VE FOUND THE REVIEW 1473 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,760 CRITERIA DISCOURAGING, YOU KNOW, 1474 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,880 IN TERMS OF PEOPLE I WORK WITH 1475 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,080 APPLYING FROM MY LAB, THINKING 1476 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,000 ABOUT THEIR CHANCES OF GETTING 1477 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,400 FUNDING, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE 1478 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,240 HELPFUL, I SUSPECT, FOR OTHER 1479 00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,640 PEOPLE LIKE ME, THOSE TYPES OF 1480 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,680 GUIDELINES WERE CLARIFIED FOR 1481 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,400 SUPPLEMENTS ALSO, SO LIKE THE 1482 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,800 DIVERSITY SUPPLEMENTS, FOR 1483 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,080 EXAMPLE, HAVE -- IN THE REQUEST, 1484 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,480 THEY SAY THINGS ABOUT, LIKE, YOU 1485 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,200 KNOW, CONFIRMING THAT THE MENTOR 1486 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,160 HAS SUCCESSFULLY MENTORED PEOPLE 1487 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,840 TO FUTURE CAREERS AND IS 1488 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,960 ACCOMPLISHED AND ALL OF THAT, SO 1489 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,160 THINGS LIKE THAT ALSO CAN MAKE 1490 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,920 ME AS A NEWER INVESTIGATOR FEEL 1491 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,360 LIKE, OH, THIS IS PROBABLY 1492 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,640 BEYOND THE REACH OF ANYONE FROM 1493 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,560 MY LAB. 1494 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,520 >>THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT, 1495 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,640 AND I THINK WE SHOULD THINK 1496 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,480 ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 1497 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,840 WE'LL BRING THAT POINT ABOUT THE 1498 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,880 DIVERSITY SUPPLEMENT NOFO -- WE 1499 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,560 DON'T CONTROL IT, BUT WE CAN 1500 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,400 BRING THAT TO NIH AND SEE IF WE 1501 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,040 CAN GET THAT LANGUAGE MODIFIED 1502 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,960 AS WELL. 1503 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,760 IN GENERAL, WITH FELLOWSHIPS AND 1504 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,360 WITH K AWARDS, I THINK THAT 1505 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,360 POINT YOU MAKE ABOUT PEOPLE NOT 1506 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,120 APPLYING BECAUSE THEY DON'T 1507 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,400 THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT IS 1508 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,520 VERY TRUE. 1509 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,280 SO AS I WAS SAYING, IT'S VERY 1510 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,720 SKEWED TOWARDS THE TOP 25 NIH 1511 00:47:58,720 --> 00:47:59,920 FUNDED INSTITUTIONS, BUT IF YOU 1512 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,120 LOOK AT APPLICATIONS, THE OTHER 1513 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:02,880 INSTITUTIONS AREN'T EVEN 1514 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,200 APPLYING. 1515 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,960 PRESUMABLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T 1516 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,720 THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT. 1517 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:10,160 DANIELLE. 1518 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,560 >>SO THIS IS SWITCHING ON TO 1519 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,320 THE DATA THING. 1520 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,920 THIS IS AN IGNORANT QUESTION, 1521 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,200 BUT MY SENSE IS THAT THERE'S A 1522 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,400 FAIR NUMBER OF NEW FIRMS THAT 1523 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,400 ARE USING GENERATIVE A.I. TOOLS 1524 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,000 TO DEVELOP PROTEINS, SO LIKE 1525 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,640 CHAT GPT BUT FOR PROTEINS. 1526 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,680 AND LIKE CHATGPT, WHAT IT DOES 1527 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,080 IS IT WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF 1528 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,400 REDDIT OR ALL OF WIKIPEDIA OR 1529 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,520 SOMETHING AND TAKE THAT AS INPUT 1530 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,720 TRAINING DATA OR REDDIT IS NOW 1531 00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:37,400 HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT 1532 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,000 WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO 1533 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,240 PROVIDE THAT DATA FOR FREE TO 1534 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:40,520 ANOTHER COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO 1535 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,640 DEVELOP SORT OF TOOLS ON TOP OF 1536 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,760 THAT. 1537 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,080 IS THAT -- DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF 1538 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,920 WHETHER NIH SORT OF PAID FOR 1539 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,600 DATABASES ARE BEING USED TO -- 1540 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,760 THESE THINGS AND IS THERE A 1541 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,080 SENSE OF THINKING ABOUT ACCESS 1542 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,880 TO THAT FOR COMMERCIAL USE? 1543 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,280 >>ABSOLUTELY IN TERMS OF 1544 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,800 PROGRAMS LIKE ALPHAFOLD, THAT 1545 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,000 HAVE REALLY TRANSFORMED HOW WE 1546 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,920 ARE ABLE TO PREDICT PROTEIN 1547 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,560 STRUCTURE, MUCH OF THAT WAS 1548 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,760 PREDICATED ON THE PROTEIN DATA 1549 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,920 BANK AND ALL THE STRUCTURES THAT 1550 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,640 WERE IN THERE AND, THEREFORE, 1551 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,840 NIH FUNDED THE STRUCTURE 1552 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,280 DETERMINATION, MUCH OF IT. 1553 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,400 WE AT NIGMS ARE THE PRIMARY 1554 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,520 FUNDER OF THE PROTEIN DATA BANK, 1555 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,240 SO YES, OF COURSE THEY'RE PUBLIC 1556 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:28,360 INFORMATION AND WE WANT TO BE 1557 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,440 USED BOTH FOR PUBLIC RESEARCH 1558 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,560 BUT ALSO FOR COMMERCIALIZATION. 1559 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:32,760 SO -- 1560 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,000 >>I THINK IT'S USEFUL, ONE, TO 1561 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,840 JUST -- ONE WAY IS TO THINK 1562 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,720 ABOUT THIS AS THIS IS DATA THAT 1563 00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:39,600 WE'RE STORING AND IT'S AN 1564 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,600 INVESTMENT THAT'S GENERATING 1565 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,840 THESE SORT OF NEW TOOLS AND WE 1566 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,760 SHOULD KEEP TRACK OF THAT. 1567 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,960 OR ALSO IS THERE LIKE A USER FEE 1568 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,880 THAT YOU COULD IMAGINE? 1569 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,880 >>A USER FEE FOR ACCESS TO THE 1570 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,080 DATA? 1571 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,840 >>FOR USING TO TRAIN. 1572 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,240 >>YES, THOSE ARE REALLY 1573 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:56,760 INTERESTING QUESTIONS. 1574 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,400 YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, FOR 1575 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,120 INSTANCE, THE PDB DOES NOT HAVE 1576 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,640 A USER FEE. 1577 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,600 IT'S FREE AND OPEN ACCESS FOR 1578 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,840 ANYBODY, BUT THERE ARE DATA 1579 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,040 RESOURCES THAT HAVE SUBSCRIPTION 1580 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,800 FEES AND THOSE FEES CAN BE 1581 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,320 DIFFERENT FOR INDUSTRY VERSUS, 1582 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,320 YOU KNOW, ACADEMIC NON-PROFIT, 1583 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,640 AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE ALL 1584 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,440 WRAPPED UP IN SOME OF THESE 1585 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,360 ISSUES OF HOW DO WE SUPPORT AND 1586 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,840 PAY FOR DATA STORAGE, SO YES. 1587 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,560 LET'S SEE. 1588 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,200 WE'LL GO TO DR. EYE VER SON. 1589 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,760 >>FIRST OFF I'M SURE YOU'RE 1590 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:33,960 AWARE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 1591 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,000 CONVERSATIONS IN DIFFERENT 1592 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,520 STATES REGARDING DEI PROGRAMS ON 1593 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,160 COLLEGE CAMPUSES. 1594 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,960 I'M JUST WONDERING IF NIH IS 1595 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,600 ENGAGING IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS 1596 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:44,800 IN ANY WAY. 1597 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,640 >>WE'VE CERTAINLY DISCUSSED 1598 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,240 INTERNALLY WHAT THEY MEAN FOR 1599 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:52,120 OUR PROGRAMS. 1600 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,440 WE DO NOT CONTROL STATE LAW, OF 1601 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,880 COURSE, AND SO THE STATES AND 1602 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,520 THE INSTITUTIONS ARE GOING TO 1603 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,400 HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 1604 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,720 STATE LAW MEANS IN TERMS OF WHAT 1605 00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:04,480 THEY CAN DO, I THINK IS, YOU 1606 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,640 KNOW, WHERE WE ARE AT THIS 1607 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,720 POINT. 1608 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:08,200 >>YEAH, I THINK THAT THE IDEA 1609 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,520 OF FEDERAL FUNDING I IS A VERY 1610 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,360 POWERFUL ARGUMENT THAT 1611 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,600 TRANSCENDS POLITICS SO IT'S AN 1612 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,040 IMPORTANT ONE. 1613 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,480 AND THE SECOND WITH REGARD TO 1614 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,000 DATA STORAGE, AS YOU KNOW, 1615 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,120 UNIVERSITY HAVE A LOT OF 1616 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,680 RESOURCES HISTORICALLY THAT WERE 1617 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,080 USED FOR LIBRARIES, PHYSICAL 1618 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,280 LIBRARIES ARE NOT WHAT THEY USED 1619 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,520 TO BE, AND SO I'M WONDERING IF 1620 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,520 THERE'S ANY PROGRAMS YOU'RE 1621 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,760 CONSIDERING THAT THINK ABOUT 1622 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,040 THAT AS UNIVERSITY-LEVEL STORAGE 1623 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,440 TYPE OF RESOURCES AND PROGRAMS 1624 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,320 SPECIFICALLY THAT LIBRARIES 1625 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,320 COULD APPLY FOR, FOR THIS 1626 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:39,760 PURPOSE. 1627 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:39,920 >> 1628 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,280 >>A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS HAVE, I 1629 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,360 ASSUMED, REPURPOSED SOME OF THE 1630 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,560 MONEY THEY USED TO USE FOR THE 1631 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,440 BRICK AND MORTAR PARTS OF THE 1632 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,000 LIBRARY AND BUILT OUT THEIR OWN 1633 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,160 DATA STORAGE PLATFORMS WITH, 1634 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,480 AGAIN, I PRESUME SOME OF THAT 1635 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,040 MONEY. 1636 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,080 SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY 1637 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,320 WORTHWHILE M MODEL IN TERMS OF 1638 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,000 THIS DATA MANAGEMENT SHARING. 1639 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,800 A CONCERN THERE IS IT HAS TO BE 1640 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,520 STABLE ENOUGH TO BE MORE OR LESS 1641 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,240 PERMANENT IF IT'S GOING TO -- IF 1642 00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:15,560 A NEW DEAN IS GOING TO COME IN 1643 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,360 AND GET RID OF IT, THEN THAT 1644 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,560 WASN'T VERY USEFUL, SO I THINK 1645 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,280 THOSE ARE THINGS TO CONSIDER. 1646 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,560 IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING 1647 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:21,760 ABOUT? 1648 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,800 >>I'M WONDERING IF LIBRARIES 1649 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,520 CAN APPLY DIRECTLY FOR 1650 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,720 PARTICULAR RESOURCES FROM NIH TO 1651 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,160 DO THIS KIND OF THING IN THE 1652 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,400 FUTURE. 1653 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,520 >>THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. 1654 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,520 CERTAINLY WE COULD THINK ABOUT 1655 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,960 IT WITH THE NATIO NATIONAL LIBRF 1656 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:37,960 MEDICINE, WHICH HAS THE 1657 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,160 STRONGEST CONNECTIONS WITH 1658 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,520 ACADEMIC LIBRARIES ACROSS THE 1659 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,920 COUNTRY. 1660 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,760 AN INSTITUTION WHICH AS THE 1661 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,960 LIBRARY CAN APPLY FOR WHATEVER 1662 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,560 GRANTS NIH HAS SO IF THERE'S AN 1663 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,400 APPROPRIATE FIT FOR WHAT YOU'RE 1664 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,960 THINKING OF DOING IN TERMS OF 1665 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,160 BUILDING A DATA RESOURCE OR 1666 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,760 SOMETHING ELSE, THEN THE LIBRARY 1667 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,680 COULD, I PRESUME, APPLY THROUGH 1668 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:04,160 THE UNIVERSITY FOR THOSE THINGS. 1669 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:04,840 LET'S SEE. 1670 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,080 WE'LL GO TO THIS SIDE OF THE 1671 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,120 TABLE. 1672 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:09,320 PAOLA. 1673 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,480 >>I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 1674 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,040 FOR THE REWARD, THE DIVERSITY 1675 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,400 FOCUSED R01 GRANT, I WAS 1676 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,800 WONDERING HOW YOU WILL EVALUATE 1677 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,960 THE RESEARCH ACCOMPLISHMENTS, 1678 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,160 BECAUSE IF THE APPLICANTS ARE 1679 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:27,480 GOING TO HAVE DONE A LOT OF A.I, 1680 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,560 THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCTIVITY IS 1681 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,720 GOING TO BE LOWER SO IF IT'S 1682 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,160 GOING TO BE AN R01, HOW WILL 1683 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,840 THEY BE EVALUATED WITHOUT -- 1684 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,200 BECAUSE SURE, THEY DID THE A.I., 1685 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,520 NOW THEY QUALIFY, BUT THE MORE 1686 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,840 D.I. THEY DID, PERHAPS THE LOWER 1687 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,480 AMOUNT OF DATA. 1688 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,160 >>SO THAT'S SPECIFICALLY PART 1689 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,720 OF THE PROGRAM, IS THAT 1690 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,360 RECOGNITION THAT BECAUSE THEY 1691 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,280 WERE WORKING ON THE DEIA 1692 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,240 ACTIVITIES, IT TOOK TIME AWAY 1693 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:55,640 FROM THEIR RESEARCH ACTIVITIES. 1694 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,560 THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE 1695 00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:02,840 THINGS THIS PROGRAM IS TRYING TO 1696 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,480 TRY TO PAY BACK, IF YOU WILL. 1697 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,600 SO THE REVIEW IS BEING CAREFULLY 1698 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:07,840 WRITTEN AND CONSTRUCTED TO TAKE 1699 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,800 THAT INTO ACCOUNT, THAT THEY 1700 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,200 WILL HAVE SPENT TIME DOING THAT 1701 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,040 INSTEAD OF THEIR RESEARCH AND, 1702 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,520 THEREFORE, THE EXPECTATIONS NEED 1703 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,840 TO BE SET ACCORDINGLY. 1704 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,120 I BELIEVE WE WERE ALSO VERY 1705 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,600 CAREFUL TO TALK ABOUT 1706 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,120 INSTITUTIONAL CONTEXT IN 1707 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,320 EVALUATING PAST PRODUCTIVITY AND 1708 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,360 FUTURE PLANS THAT DEPENDING ON 1709 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,320 THE RESOURCES YOUR INSTITUTION 1710 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,760 HAS, THE FIELD MAY BE SOMEWHAT 1711 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,840 DIFFERENT AND THE REVIEWERS MAY 1712 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,760 NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT 1713 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,400 INSTITUTIONAL CONTEXT WHEN 1714 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,520 MAKING THEIR EVALUATIONS. 1715 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,520 >>I THINK THE BALANCE, IT'S 1716 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,720 GOING TO BE TRICKY BECAUSE THE 1717 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:47,360 MORE DEI THEY DID, THE -- 1718 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,480 >>YES, ABSOLUTELY. 1719 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,920 >>SO JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, 1720 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,000 I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT. 1721 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,440 >>ONE THING I'LL JUST MENTION 1722 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,560 BEFORE YOU ASK YOUR NEXT 1723 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,560 QUESTION IS THAT THESE WILL NOT 1724 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,160 BE REVIEWED IN REGULAR R01 STUDY 1725 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,200 SECTION, THEY WILL BE REVIEWED 1726 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,760 BY THEMSELVES SO THE REVIEWERS 1727 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,040 SHOULD BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THIS 1728 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,840 POOL OF APPLICANTS AND NOT BE 1729 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,040 COMPARING TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO 1730 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,000 WAS NOT DOING THOSE DEIA 1731 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,320 ACTIVITIES. 1732 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,440 >>FOR THE INNIN INSTITUTIONAL 1733 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,200 EXCELLENCE, I THINK THAT'S 1734 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,840 REALLY COOL, BUT HOW WILL 1735 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,960 EXCELLENCE BE EVALUATED? 1736 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,480 BECAUSE BEING PART OF A LOT OF 1737 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,720 DEI COMMITTEES, THERE'S A LOT OF 1738 00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:30,640 DISCUSSION, BUT I FEEL WE NEED 1739 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,960 TO DO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS 1740 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,120 GOING TO REQUIRE WORK, IT'S NOT 1741 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,160 GOING TO BE EASY, AND SOMETIMES 1742 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,360 IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE FUNDS TO, 1743 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,120 LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, GENERATE 1744 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,240 MORE PROGRAMS, FOR INSTANCE, IN 1745 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:46,200 THE SCIENCES, THE INTRO CLASSES 1746 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,160 ARE LIKE THE WEEDING COURSES 1747 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,240 WHICH I THINK IS A HORRIBLE 1748 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:52,840 TERM, IT PUSHES AWAY A LOT OF 1749 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,680 ESPECIALLY FIRST GENERATION AND 1750 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,240 MINORITY STUDENTS. 1751 00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:57,560 AND SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO 1752 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,520 REQUIRE PERHAPS ADDITIONAL 1753 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,200 COURSES THAT CAN HELP THEM KEEP 1754 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,400 UP WITH THE MATERIAL. 1755 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,640 BUT THAT REQUIRES MONEY. 1756 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,920 AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT 1757 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:07,920 EXCELLENCE, THE DEFINITION OF 1758 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,760 EXCELLENCE, RIGHT? 1759 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,360 >>I THINK THAT IS A SUBJECTIVE 1760 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,880 TERM FOR SURE. 1761 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,400 MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS BEING 1762 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,200 RUN BY THE CHIEF OFFICER FOR 1763 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,200 SCIENTIFIC WORKFORCE DIVERSITY'S 1764 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,040 OFFICE, THEY'RE RUNNING THIS 1765 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,160 PROGRAM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS 1766 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,960 THEY WILL BE FOCUSING ON 1767 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,800 DEMONSTRATED IMPACT, SO IT'S NOT 1768 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,720 YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT IS GOOD, 1769 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:30,840 IT'S ITS YOU ACTUALLY DID 1770 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,880 SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE DATA TO 1771 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,560 SHOW THAT IT ACTUALLY WORKED. 1772 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,120 IT IMPROVED THE CULTURE. 1773 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,680 IT MADE THE INSTITUTION MORE 1774 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,400 INCLUSIVE. 1775 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,960 IT REDUCED HARASSMENT CASES, 1776 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:41,880 WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE GOING TO 1777 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,360 BE LOOKING AT. 1778 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,640 SO I THINK THAT IS HOW THEY WILL 1779 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:44,160 BE JUDGING IT. 1780 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,440 >>I REALLY LIKE IT. 1781 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,920 SO IT'S AT EVERY LEVEL: STUDENT 1782 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,680 RETENTION AND COMPLETION, I 1783 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,120 THINK IS CRITICAL, COMPLETION. 1784 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:52,640 >>EXACTLY. 1785 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,040 >>DON'T JUST BRING THEM. 1786 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,960 HELP THEM FINISH. 1787 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,440 >>YES. 1788 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,000 SO IT CAN BE WHATEVER THE 1789 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,440 METRICS ARE THEY WANT TO PUT 1790 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,320 FORWARD, THAT'S HOW IT WILL BE 1791 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:01,560 JUDGED. 1792 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,200 >>NICE. 1793 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,160 ONE LAST COMMENT AND I JUST 1794 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:11,320 WANTED TO AGREE THAT THOSE F31, 1795 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,320 F32s, AS EARLY CAREERS, 1796 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,160 THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE 1797 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,440 MENTORING RECORD, AND AS EARLY 1798 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,840 CAREER, WE DON'T HAVE A RECORD. 1799 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,960 AND SO WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT 1800 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,960 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CO-MENTOR, 1801 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,800 AND SO YOU HAVE TO FIND A 1802 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,360 CO-MENTOR. 1803 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,640 SO I THINK ADDRESSING ALSO THE 1804 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,440 MENTORS REQUIREMENTS. 1805 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,960 >>AND ALISON CAN CORRECT ME IF 1806 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,080 I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THEY'RE 1807 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,320 GOING TO GET RID OF THAT ENTIRE 1808 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,080 THING ABOUT HAVING A CO-MENTOR. 1809 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:48,440 IS THAT RIGHT, ALISON? 1810 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,520 >>WE'RE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION 1811 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,960 PHASE RIGHT NOW, SO JUST SORT OF 1812 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,200 STARTING THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF 1813 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,680 IT, SO WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THE 1814 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,000 CHARGE FROM THE GROUP, AND WE'RE 1815 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,760 REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW 1816 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,720 TO OPERATIONALIZE THAT. 1817 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,240 I THINK ONE OF THE THOUGHTS IS 1818 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,440 WHAT WE'VE DONE AT NIGMS IS 1819 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,280 TO -- IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE 1820 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,120 MENTORING PHILOSOPHY AND THE 1821 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:14,960 PERSPECTIVE, AND WITH THE 1822 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,400 UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU MAY NOT 1823 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,680 YET HAVE A CHANCE TO IMPLEMENT 1824 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,040 IT, BUT THAT'S REALLY KEY AND AS 1825 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,800 JOHN MENTIONED, IT'S KEY THAT 1826 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:24,960 THE MENTORING PLAN IS 1827 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,640 INDIVIDUALIZED FOR THAT 1828 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:28,880 PARTICULAR PERSON, IT'S NOT JUST 1829 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,960 A BOILERPLATE STANDARD STUFF 1830 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,040 THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO REVIEW 1831 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,800 PANELS. 1832 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,720 SO THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. 1833 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,040 SO IT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST IN 1834 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,400 OUR MINDS ABOUT HOW TO BEST DO 1835 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,480 THAT AND NOT PENALIZE PEOPLE WHO 1836 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,120 ARE EARLY STAGE. 1837 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,120 SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THAT OUT. 1838 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,920 >>THAT'S AWESOME. 1839 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,280 THANK YOU. 1840 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,920 >>BUT YOU SHOULD CERTAINLY BOTH 1841 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,920 RIGHT IN TO THE RFI, I HOPE, 1842 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,880 GIVE THAT FEEDBACK? 1843 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:48,960 >>ABSOLUTELY, YES. 1844 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,520 >>BECAUSE WE HAVE A PHILOSOPHY. 1845 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,680 IT'S A GOOD PHILOSOPHY. 1846 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,760 WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WENT 1847 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,560 BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL WITH US. 1848 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,720 >>ABSOLUTELY. 1849 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,240 AND TO BE FAIR, I KNOW EVERYBODY 1850 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,800 KNOWS THIS, BUT JUST BECAUSE 1851 00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,960 YOU'VE HAD PEOPLE PASS THROUGH 1852 00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:01,440 YOUR LAB AND BE SUCCESSFUL DOES 1853 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,120 NOT MEAN YOU WERE A GOOD MENTOR. 1854 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,600 SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PROOF OF 1855 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,320 GOOD MENTORING EITHER. 1856 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,800 SO WE JUST HAVE TO -- WE HAVE TO 1857 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,160 FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST DO THAT. 1858 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,320 >>THANK YOU. 1859 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,400 JUST A COMMENT, I REALLY LIKE A 1860 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,600 LOT OF THESE IDEAS AND HOW NIH 1861 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:17,680 IS MOVING FORWARD. 1862 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,920 THANK YOU. 1863 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,360 >>GREAT. 1864 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:21,920 THANK YOU. 1865 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,760 I THINK WE HAVE A FEW MORE 1866 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,400 MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION. 1867 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,320 LET'S GO TO MARK AND THEN WE'LL 1868 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:26,760 GO TO DAVE. 1869 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,320 >>THANK YOU. 1870 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,760 JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. 1871 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,680 SO ONE, I REALLY LIKE THE 1872 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,560 INSTRUMENTATION GRANT PROGRAM 1873 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,720 THAT WAS MENTIONED AND THINK IT 1874 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,080 COULD REALLY HAVE SIGNIFICANT 1875 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,800 IMPACT FOR EARLY TRAINEES 1876 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,080 ESPECIALLY, JUST LEARNING HOW TO 1877 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:38,840 GENERATE DATA. 1878 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,160 IT HELPS THEM BUILD CONFIDENCE 1879 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:40,640 AS WELL. 1880 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,240 A SUGGESTION I WOULD HAVE IS 1881 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,520 WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO EITHER 1882 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,360 MARKET THAT OR GET INTEREST FROM 1883 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,720 AREAS LIKE COMMUNITY COLLEGES, 1884 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,720 STATE UNIVERSITIES AND OTHER 1885 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,040 INSTITUTIONS, THAT THEY, FOR 1886 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,320 EXAMPLE, NOT HAVE THE TYPE OF 1887 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,600 SOPHISTICATED EQUIPMENT THAT 1888 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,320 LARGER UNIVERSITIES DO SO THAT 1889 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,320 WOULD BE A SUGGESTION. 1890 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,240 MY SECOND SUGGESTION, I REALLY 1891 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,360 LIKE THE UNITED PRIZE AWARD THAT 1892 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:02,680 WAS MENTIONED AND REALIZE THAT 1893 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,200 THIS IS JUST GETTING OFF THE 1894 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,840 GROUND, BUT MY SUGGESTION WOULD 1895 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,240 BE IS AT SOME POINT IN THE 1896 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,520 FUTURE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO 1897 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:10,840 EXPAND EITHER THE APPLICANTS OR 1898 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,880 THE GRANTEES TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY 1899 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,880 THE ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS AND 1900 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,720 MAYBE THE SMALL BUSINESS 1901 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:17,640 CONCERNS AND OTHER AREAS AS 1902 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,040 WELL. 1903 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,560 THE REASON WHY I'M MAKING THAT 1904 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,200 SUGGESTION IS IT'S GOING TO TAKE 1905 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,480 ALL OF US, BOTH IN ACADEMIA AND 1906 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,880 INTEREST, TO REALLY MAKE 1907 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:25,880 PROGRESS, SO IT'S JUST A 1908 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,600 SUGGESTION MADE FOR FUTURE 1909 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:27,920 CONSIDERATION. 1910 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:28,240 THANK YOU. 1911 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,080 >>VERY INTERESTING IDEA. 1912 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,320 I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT -- 1913 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,720 ONCE THEY HAVE A YEAR OR TWO OF 1914 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,760 EXPERIENCE WITH THIS, THEN 1915 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,800 THINKING ABOUT EITHER JUST SMALL 1916 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,800 BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRY IN 1917 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,520 GENERAL WOULD BE INTERESTING TO 1918 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,800 DO. 1919 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:47,000 DAVE. 1920 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,320 >>SO I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION 1921 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,200 ABOUT FUNDING. 1922 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,440 SO THE FUNDING TRENDS LOOK VERY 1923 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,200 NICE. 1924 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,200 BUT ONE CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT 1925 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,320 EARLY STAGE INVESTIGATORS. 1926 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,440 IT'S GOOD TO BRING IN EARLY 1927 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,600 STAGE INVESTIGATORS AND SUPPORT 1928 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,560 THEM, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE 1929 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,680 CASE THAT IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST 1930 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,760 R01 RENEWAL THAT WAS THE REAL 1931 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,960 BOTTLENECK, THINKING ABOUT 1932 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:12,600 SUSTAINABILITY, HOW MANY EARLY 1933 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,000 STAGE INVESTIGATORS CAN YOU 1934 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,600 BRING IN WITH THE HOPE THAT MOST 1935 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,720 OF THEM WILL BE SUCCESSFUL BY 1936 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,920 SEEING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE 1937 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,360 RETIRING -- 1938 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,240 >>SO WE DID PRESENT DATA ON 1939 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,560 RENEWALS FOR MIRAs, A COUPLE 1940 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,240 ROUNDS AGO, AND THAT'S ON THE 1941 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,680 FEEDBACK LOOP BLOG. 1942 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,360 AND WE HAVE AN EMPHASIS ON THAT 1943 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,120 FIRST RENEWAL FOR EARLY STAGE 1944 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,320 INVESTIGATORS AND THE RENEWAL 1945 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,360 RATES WERE QUITE HIGH, THEY WERE 1946 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,240 IN THE 60s PERCENT, IF I 1947 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,960 REMEMBER CORRECTLY. 1948 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,160 SO THAT'S GOOD, RIGHT? 1949 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,560 NOW, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE 1950 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,240 100%, SO YOU DO HAVE TO REALIZE 1951 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,680 THAT SOME PEOPLE AT EVERY STAGE 1952 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,520 ARE JUST GOING TO NOT MAKE IT 1953 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,840 BUT OUR PHILOSOPHY IS THAT WE 1954 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,240 WANT TO TAKE THE RISKS AND WE 1955 01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,440 WANT TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO 1956 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,480 MAKE IT, AND WE DEFINITELY SEE 1957 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,800 THAT EVEN PEOPLE -- VERY 1958 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,400 FREQUENTLY PEOPLE WHO WE REACH 1959 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,000 FOR TO FUND, THEY DIDN'T GET THE 1960 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,000 OPTIMAL SCORE BUT WE SEE 1961 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,320 SOMETHING IN THEIR APPLICATION, 1962 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,280 WE REACH TO FUND IT, THOSE 1963 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,120 PEOPLE SOMETIMES DO THE BEST. 1964 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,080 AND SO I THINK THAT PHILOSOPHY 1965 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,600 OF TAKING THE RISK AND SEEING 1966 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,680 WHAT HAPPENS REALLY IS THE RIGHT 1967 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,120 THING TO DO. 1968 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,600 >>YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT. 1969 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,920 I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF 1970 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,640 SENSE, THAT IS, REACHING MORE 1971 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,760 FOR THE EARLY STAGE 1972 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,360 INVESTIGATORS, GIVING THEM THE 1973 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,080 CHANCE, BUT THEN I THINK THERE 1974 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,720 NEEDS TO BE SOME THOUGHT ABOUT 1975 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,240 SUSTAINABILITY AND WHAT RENEWAL 1976 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,720 LEVEL IS ACCEPTABLE. 1977 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,680 IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE THAT. 1978 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,960 >>72%. 1979 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,160 YOU DON'T GET MUCH BETTER THAN 1980 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,160 THAT FOR RENEWAL RATE. 1981 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,160 BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 1982 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,880 ONE OF THE MANY REASONS WE LIKE 1983 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,720 THE MIRA SYSTEM IS BECAUSE ONCE 1984 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,240 WE GET A MAJORITY OF OUR FUNDING 1985 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,640 STREAM WITH ONE GRANT PER 1986 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,560 PERSON, IT BECOMES EASIER TO DO 1987 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,200 THE MODELING AND THINK WHAT 1988 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,600 SHOULD THE INFLUX AND OUTFLOW 1989 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,120 HAVE TO BE AND YOU CAN MODULATE 1990 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,200 THE BUDGETS AS WELL WITHIN THAT. 1991 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,840 IF PEOPLE ARE GETTING MULTIPLE 1992 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,120 GRANTS AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW 1993 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,240 MANY OR WHEN, IT A MUCH MORE 1994 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,720 DIFFICULT SCENARIO. 1995 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,360 SO ON TOP OF ALL THE ADVANTAGES 1996 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,960 I THINK IT HAS FOR 1997 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,600 INVESTIGATORS, IT HAS 1998 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:25,200 ADMINISTRATIVE ADVANTAGES FOR 1999 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:25,880 THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2000 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,920 AS WELL. 2001 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,240 NATALIE. 2002 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,120 >>ARE INVESTIGATORS -- 15s -- 2003 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,560 FOR THEIR REWARD R01 PROGRAM? 2004 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,640 >>YOU CAN'T HAVE AN RPG, AND 2005 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:38,800 THOSE ARE RPGs. 2006 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,680 >>OKAY. 2007 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,400 >>RON. 2008 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,280 >>I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE COST 2009 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,320 OF DATA STORAGE. 2010 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,320 I RECALL YEARS AGO THAT NATIONAL 2011 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:51,920 LIBRARY OF MEDICINE WAS TRYING 2012 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,360 TO SET UP DATABASES THAT WERE 2013 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,720 FAIR AND FINDABLE, ALL THAT KIND 2014 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,720 OF ASPECT. 2015 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:04,760 HOW SUCCESSFUL IS THAT ANGLE, 2016 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,000 WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DATA 2017 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,360 YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE 2018 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:08,080 REPURPOSABILITY? 2019 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,200 SO AN APPLICANT WOULD BE SAYING, 2020 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,560 I WANT TO LOOK AT THE PROTEIN 2021 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:12,880 DATABASE, OH, BY THE WAY, IT IS 2022 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,200 AVAILABLE HERE, BUT THERE'S ALSO 2023 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,680 A SUBSIDIARY THAT IS LOOKING AT 2024 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,680 SPECIFIC THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO 2025 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,840 LOOK AT, AND IT IS UNDER 2026 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,560 NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE, 2027 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,760 INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET, YOU 2028 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,400 KNOW, A CO-INVESTIGATOR OR BONDS 2029 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,720 TO PAY FOR ACCESS AND THINGS 2030 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,960 LIKE THAT. 2031 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,360 IS THAT POTENTIALLY LOOKED AT? 2032 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,600 >>IT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT 2033 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:32,960 QUESTION. 2034 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,560 WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF ANALYSES 2035 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,080 OF THE WHOLE DATA RESOURCE 2036 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:36,520 ECOSYSTEM. 2037 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,880 I THINK IN TERMS OF FAIR, WE'VE 2038 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,560 MADE A FAIR AMOUNT OF PROGRESS, 2039 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:42,960 BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHICH OF THE 2040 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,920 LETTERS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH 2041 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:45,200 PROGRESS. 2042 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,280 SO FINDABLE, ACCESSIBLE, 2043 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,720 INTRAOPERABLE, RE-USEABLE. 2044 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,560 THE I IS REALLY THE HARDEST ONE, 2045 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,720 THE INTRAOPERABILITY BECAUSE IT 2046 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:55,600 REQUIRES STANDARDS AND IT'S 2047 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,520 REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE 2048 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,560 TO AGREE ON STANDARDS FOR MANY 2049 01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:59,160 THINGS. 2050 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,040 AND IN ADDITION TO STANDARDS, 2051 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,680 THAT REQUIRES YOU TO CONNECT TO 2052 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:02,040 THINGS. 2053 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,560 BUT THEN WE THINK ABOUT 2054 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,600 GENERATIVE A.I. AND THOSE SORT 2055 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,600 OF THINGS, HOW MUCH LONGER IS IT 2056 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,120 GOING TO MATTER, RIGHT? 2057 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,400 THERE MAY BE NO NEED TO EVEN DO 2058 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,600 THAT BECAUSE IT CAN BE DONE FOR 2059 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,160 YOU. 2060 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,720 BUT I THINK THERE'S ALL KINDS OF 2061 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:19,760 QUESTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, DO YOU 2062 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,000 WANT TO REALLY JUST GO FOR 2063 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,960 ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND HAVE 2064 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,280 FEWER DATABASES, DATA RESOURCES, 2065 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,640 OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE LOTS OF 2066 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:29,640 LITTLE ONES THAT ARE MUCH MORE 2067 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,040 SPECIFIC TO THE KIND OF DATA 2068 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,960 THAT'S GOING INTO THEM. 2069 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,600 HUMAN CURATION OF THE DATA IS 2070 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,120 ANOTHER BIG HOT BUTTON TOPIC. 2071 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,080 AGAIN, I THINK GENERATIVE A.I. 2072 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,480 IS PROBABLY GOING TO COMPLETELY 2073 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,680 CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE THERE BUT, 2074 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,160 YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH HUMAN CURE 2075 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:50,080 RANGE OF MOTION --CURATION DO YF 2076 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:50,760 THE DATA. 2077 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:51,960 I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BUT 2078 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:52,680 IT'S A GOOD ONE, RON. 2079 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,000 >>I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOU. 2080 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,680 YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING 2081 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,480 LIKE AT A FLAT FILE DATABASE 2082 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,880 VERSUS A RELATIONAL DA DATABASE, 2083 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:04,720 RELATIONAL IS ALWAYS A LITTLE 2084 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,000 BIT BETTER, BUT STANDARDS OF 2085 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,200 ACCESSIBILITY HAVE TO BE UP 2086 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,680 FRONT STATED, WE WANT TO BE, AND 2087 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,720 IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT BUILT, THE 2088 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,440 TOOL IS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN SO 2089 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,560 OTHERS CAN USE IT AS WELL. 2090 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:19,680 SINCE WE'RE FUNDING THIS, 2091 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,600 WHAT -- DO SOMETHING FOR US. 2092 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,840 >>ABSOLUTELY. 2093 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,240 WE'VE ALSO BEEN THINKING A LOT 2094 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,760 ABOUT REAL WORLD DATA DATABASES 2095 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,880 LIKE ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORDS, 2096 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,880 POTENTIAL VALUE, VERSUS COST 2097 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,720 VERSUS SOCIETAL IMPLICATIONS, 2098 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,920 PRIVACY, THINGS LIKE THAT. 2099 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,680 >>THANKS MUCH. 2100 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:40,600 >>DAVE. 2101 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,200 >>I'LL MAYBE HAVE JUST ONE 2102 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,680 COMMENT THAT I AGREE THAT 2103 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,680 FEEDBACK LOOP IS AN EXCELLENT 2104 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,640 WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE 2105 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,600 COMMUNITY, AND IN PARTICULAR, 2106 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,000 TALKING ABOUT FINDING DATA, 2107 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,040 FEEDBACK LOOP IS REALLY FINDABLE 2108 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,920 ON GOOGLE, SO OFTEN I GO BACK TO 2109 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:56,840 TO ANSWER SOME QUESTION OR 2110 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,320 REMEMBER SOMETHING. 2111 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,600 SO I JUST WANT TO ENDORSE THAT. 2112 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,920 >>THAT'S EXACTLY PART OF THE 2113 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,920 THINKING, IS THIS PERMANENT 2114 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,280 RECORD THAT CAN BE FOUND FOR 2115 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,120 GOOGLE, ET CETERA. 2116 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:08,520 TERRI. 2117 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,080 >>AND THINKING ABOUT THE ISSUES 2118 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,080 ABOUT DATA STORAGE AND I ALWAYS 2119 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,440 THINK OF ECONOMIES OF SCALE, AND 2120 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,640 FOR EVERY DIFFERENT PROGRAM TO 2121 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,720 HAVE ITS OWN LITTLE REPOSITORY 2122 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,440 VERSUS LARGER ONES, IT MAKES ME 2123 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,880 WONDER IF THIS IS NOT JUST 2124 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,520 BEYOND NIGMS OR NIH, IT'S 2125 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,200 SOMEPLACE WE'RE WORKING WITH NSF 2126 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:27,040 OR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE OR 2127 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:27,760 DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY FOR THESE 2128 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,400 MIGHT BE BETTER OR A 2129 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,040 PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, 2130 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,440 WHERE INDUSTRY WHO HAS A LOT OF 2131 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,000 EXPERIENCE IN THIS AND WANT TO 2132 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,080 DRIVE PRICES AND COLLABORATE 2133 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,880 WITH COLLEAGUES HERE, MIGHT BE 2134 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,040 OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. 2135 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,400 >>I WOULD SAY YES TO ALL THOSE 2136 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:40,840 THINGS. 2137 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,720 I THINK THOSE ALL NEED TO BE 2138 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,000 FURTHER EXPLORED AND PROBABLY NO 2139 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,840 ONE OF THEM IS THE ANSWER. 2140 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,920 YOU KNOW, COLLABORATING WITH 2141 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,360 OTHER FEDERAL AGENCY, THE 2142 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:51,400 PROTEIN DATA BANK IS A GREAT 2143 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,840 EXAMPLE WHERE WE COLLABORATE 2144 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,400 WITH SEVERAL NIH INSTITUTES AND 2145 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,000 CENTERS BUT ALSO WITH THE NSF 2146 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,840 AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY FOR 2147 01:07:58,840 --> 01:07:59,200 THAT ONE. 2148 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,800 SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN EXAMPLE 2149 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,800 OF THE GOVERNMENT COLLABORATION 2150 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,160 ON THE PRIVATE/PUBLIC KIND OF 2151 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,120 PARTNERSHIP SIDE, THERE'S AN 2152 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:12,720 EXAMPLE OF THE RAB DOP CYST 2153 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:17,200 GENOME DATABASE TEAR, WHICH NSF 2154 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,480 USED TO FUND, THEN IT BECAME AN 2155 01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:23,880 ENTITY THAT CHARGED SUBSCRIPTION 2156 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,800 FEES AND WENT TO INDUSTRY AND I 2157 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,240 THINK THAT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL. 2158 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:32,480 DPIPPEDING ON THE SI.DEPENDING E 2159 01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:34,880 SITUATION, THE USERS, IT'S GOING 2160 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,200 TO NEED TO BE DIFFERENT MODELS 2161 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,720 WE CONTINUE TO EMPLOY. 2162 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:38,240 DANIELLE. 2163 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,600 OH, WE HAVE 6 MINUTES. 2164 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,240 >>JUST ONE SMALL THING. 2165 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:47,560 WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 2166 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,520 EVALUATION OF EXCELLENCE IN 2167 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,480 DIVERSITY, ONE MENTIONED WAS 2168 01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:54,600 DECREASE IN THATS RASMENT CASES. 2169 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,200 I WOULD CAUTION THAT BECAUSE 2170 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,400 HARASSMENT IS UNDERREPORTED AND 2171 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,600 IT'S A NUMBER THAT'S VERY EASY 2172 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,160 TO DECREASE INSTITUTIONALLY. 2173 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:03,880 >>GOOD POINT. 2174 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,280 OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, 2175 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:11,120 THOUGHTS? 2176 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:17,800 OH, GOOD. 2177 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:24,920 IN THE CHAT, LET'S SEE. 2178 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,000 THEY'RE JUST SAYING THANK YOU. 2179 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,400 WELL, HOW ABOUT ONLINE? 2180 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,960 ANGELA OR ANGELA, ANY COMMENTS 2181 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,360 OR QUESTIONS, THINGS YOU WANT TO 2182 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,720 BRING UP? 2183 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,000 >>NOTHING PRESSING. 2184 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,000 IT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN RAISED 2185 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,400 BEFORE AT PREVIOUS COUNCIL 2186 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,160 MEETINGS BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT 2187 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,320 AS YOU MOVE TOWARDS A ONE GRANT 2188 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,160 PER PERSON MODEL WITH MIRA, HOW 2189 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,120 YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT MIRA 2190 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,320 BUDGETS, ESPECIALLY AS POSTDOC 2191 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,480 SALARIES AND OTHER SALARY 2192 01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:55,480 INCREASES AND DIFFERENT COSTS 2193 01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:59,400 ARE HITTING INDIVIDUAL LABS. 2194 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,520 EXP 2195 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,840 >>YEP, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 2196 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,240 I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A 2197 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,320 COUPLE ROUNDS AGO, THAT WE'RE 2198 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,520 WORKING TO INCREASE THE MEDIAN 2199 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,080 AND MODE MIRA BUDGET TO $300,000 2200 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,200 DIRECT COST PER YEAR. 2201 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:16,600 CURRENTLY IT'S 250, WHICH IS 2202 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,160 BIGGER THAN R01s, IT'S ALREADY 2203 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,080 BETTER THAN R01s SO WE WOULD 2204 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,160 LIKE TO GET THAT ONE UP. 2205 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,800 BUT YES, THE COST, THE 2206 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,880 INCREASING COSTS FROM JUST 2207 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,840 INFLATION BUT THEN ALSO WHAT MAY 2208 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,640 WELL BE INCREASING COSTS OF 2209 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,600 POSTDOCS, GRADUATE STUDENTS, 2210 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,040 GIVEN CURRENT DISCUSSIONS IS 2211 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,680 SOMETHING VERY MUCH ON OUR RAD 2212 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:41,880 RADAR. 2213 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,800 IT'S A ZERO SUM, RIGHT, SO -- 2214 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,560 WE'RE ALWAYS THINKING CAREFULLY 2215 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,080 ABOUT WHAT'S THE BALANCE BETWEEN 2216 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,360 FUNDING MORE LABS AND GIVING 2217 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,160 THEM MORE MONEY. 2218 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,120 >>ABSOLUTELY. 2219 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,480 I APPRECIATE THE COMPLEXITY OF 2220 01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:59,840 IT. 2221 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,200 >>GOOD MORNING, JON. 2222 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:01,920 CAN YOU HEAR ME? 2223 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,720 >>I CAN, ANGELA. 2224 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,080 >>EXCELLENT. 2225 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:04,920 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 2226 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,400 I'M EXCITED ESPECIALLY TO HEAR 2227 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,160 ABOUT THE REWARD RFA. 2228 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,040 SIMILAR TO ANGELA'S COMMENTS, NO 2229 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,880 SPECIFIC QUESTION BUT JUST 2230 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,840 OBSERVATION SPECIFICALLY IN WHAT 2231 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,440 THE FOCUS AND PRIORITY OF THE 2232 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:19,640 SPECIAL REVIEW COMMITTEE WILL BE 2233 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,240 IN EVALUATING THE SUBMISSIONS. 2234 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,600 SO I UNDERSTAND OBVIOUSLY THAT 2235 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,200 THE RFA CAME THROUGH THE UNITE 2236 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,680 INITIATIVE, OR AT LEAST 2237 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,120 INFLUENCED BY IT, WHICH REALLY 2238 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:33,640 FOCUSED ON ADDRESSING STRUCTURAL 2239 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,040 RACISM WHICH, TO ME, SUGGESTS 2240 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,960 PRIORITIZING DEIA EFFORTS THAT 2241 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,280 AFFECT AND FACILITATE AN 2242 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,480 INCREASED RACIAL/ETHNIC 2243 01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:44,760 UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS AND THE 2244 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,320 BIOMEDICAL SCIENCES, I CERTAINLY 2245 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,040 UNDERSTAND INTERSECTIONALITY, 2246 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,040 BUT TWO THINGS THAT COME UP FOR 2247 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,680 ME JUST AS A COMMENT. 2248 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,000 ONE IS THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING 2249 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,240 CLEAR GUIDANCE TO THAT SPECIAL 2250 01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,120 REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR EVALUATING 2251 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,640 WHAT WE MEAN BY DIVERSE 2252 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:03,600 PERSPECTIVES BECAUSE AGAIN, 2253 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,840 THERE ARE GREAT PEOPLE DOING 2254 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,000 WONDERFUL TYPES OF WORK AROUND 2255 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,000 MANY TYPES OF UNDERREPRESENTED 2256 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,720 INDIVIDUALS BY ABILITY, SEXUAL 2257 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:10,800 ORIENTATION, AND AGAIN, MY HOPE 2258 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,440 IS THAT THE REVIEW COMMITTEE 2259 01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:15,960 WILL HAVE THE CHARGE TO REALLY 2260 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,280 PRIORITIZE THOSE DEIA EFFORTS 2261 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,880 THAT ARE ADVANCING RACIAL ETHNIC 2262 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,320 GROUPS ACROSS THOSE IDENTITIES. 2263 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,840 AND THE SECOND THING IS REALLY 2264 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,800 HOW THE DEIA PROPOSED ACTIVITIES 2265 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,280 IN THESE SUBMISSIONS WILL BE 2266 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:30,640 EVALUATED. 2267 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,360 SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE INNOVATION 2268 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,080 SECTION FOR EXAMPLE -- SUGGESTS 2269 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,560 THERE'S MORE THAN EVALUATION 2270 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,400 TYPES OF RESEARCH DESIGNS BEING 2271 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:45,600 CONDUCTED THAT THINGS RELATING 2272 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,440 TO THEORETICAL CONSTRUCTS AND 2273 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:52,360 TESTING, THEORETICALLY DRIVEN 2274 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:53,560 INTERVENTIONS OF THOSE ACTIVITY 2275 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,680 SUGGEST THAT SOME PROPOSALS 2276 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,040 WOULD NEED TO HAVE INPUT FROM 2277 01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,800 SOCIAL AND BEHAVIORAL 2278 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:00,160 SCIENTISTS. 2279 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,080 I DON'T KNOW THAT MANY BASIC 2280 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,120 SCIENTISTS WOULD PERHAPS HAVE AT 2281 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,640 THE TOP OF THEIR MIND A 2282 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,800 THEORETICALLY ORIENTED TESTING 2283 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,200 OF A MODEL OF SOME INTERVENTION 2284 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:09,880 THAT THEY'RE DOING. 2285 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,600 SO JUST REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE 2286 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:13,880 US, AS THESE PROPOSALS ARE 2287 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,880 COMING FORWARD AND SUBMITTED, 2288 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,840 THAT THE REVIEW COMMITTEE HAVE 2289 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,120 SOME GUIDANCE ABOUT WHAT THE 2290 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,760 EVALUATION CRITERIA WILL BE, 2291 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,000 ESPECIALLY AROUND THE INNOVATION 2292 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,200 SECTION FOR THE DEIA ACTIVITIES 2293 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,000 THAT ARE SUBMITTED. 2294 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,880 THANK YOU. 2295 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,920 >>THANK YOU, ANGELA. 2296 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,640 GOOD POINT. 2297 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,240 IN TERMS OF THE SCIENCE OF THE 2298 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:38,080 APPLICATIONS, THEY CAN BE WITHIN 2299 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,480 THE SCIENCE OF ANY OF THE 2300 01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:40,920 INSTITUTES AND CENTERS THAT ARE 2301 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,040 PARTICIPATING, WHICH IS 18 OR 2302 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,480 SOMETHING LIKE THAT INSTITUTES 2303 01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:45,080 AND CENTERS. 2304 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,360 THERE CAN BE CELL BIOLOGY BUT 2305 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,360 THEY CAN BE ALL THE WAY TO 2306 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,120 SOCIAL BEHAVIORAL RESEARCH AS 2307 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,880 WELL. 2308 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:51,720 ABSOLUTELY, I THINK IT'S GOING 2309 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,720 TO BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE 2310 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,440 REVIEWERS TO BE PROPERLY 2311 01:13:56,440 --> 01:13:59,400 ORIENTED AND TRAINED, AND SO IN 2312 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:00,360 TERMS OF THINGS LIKE WHAT YOU 2313 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,360 SAID IN TERMS OF WHAT INNOVATION 2314 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,400 LOOKED LIKE FOR THE DEIA 2315 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,600 ACTIVITIES AND WHAT ARE THE 2316 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:07,920 EXPECTATIONS. 2317 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,640 A LOT OF THAT WILL BE A LEARNING 2318 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,160 PROCESS. 2319 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,360 REVIEW COMMITTEES TRY IT OUT, 2320 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,080 SEE HOW IT GOES AND THEN LEARN 2321 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,280 AS THEY GO. 2322 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,080 A LITTLE LIKE GENERATIVE A.I. I 2323 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,160 GUESS IN SOME WAYS. 2324 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:26,080 SO YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE AN 2325 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,160 EXPERIENCE, HOPEFULLY WE CAN 2326 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,160 START IT OFF RIGHT AND HOPEFULLY 2327 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,680 IT WILL GET BETTER OVER TIME. 2328 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,320 IN TERMS OF WHAT WE MEAN BY 2329 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:34,360 DIVERSITY, WE ARE WORKING WITHIN 2330 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,560 THE FRAMEWORK OF THE LAW AND WE 2331 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,320 CONSTRUE IT BROADLY. 2332 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,840 IT CAN BE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT 2333 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,440 THINGS AS LONG AS IT'S IMPACTFUL 2334 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:47,720 IN TERMS OF BUILDING DIVERSITY, 2335 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,280 EQUITY, INCLUSION AND 2336 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,560 ACCESSIBILITY. 2337 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,520 AND SO THAT WILL BE 2338 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,400 APPROPRIATELY COMMUNICATED TO 2339 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:59,440 THE REVIEW PANELS AS WELL. 2340 01:14:59,440 --> 01:14:59,680 PAMELA. 2341 01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:00,880 >>THIS HAS BEEN REALLY 2342 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,560 ENCOURAGING TO SEE A LOT OF 2343 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,880 PROGRESS, AND I REALLY 2344 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,400 APPRECIATE THE -- CHANGES, 2345 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,680 ECHOING WHAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST 2346 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,400 TALKED ABOUT, THINKING ABOUT 2347 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:14,400 SOME DIVERSITY ISSUES AROUND 2348 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,640 RACIAL AND ETHNICITY. 2349 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,880 THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT ONE SIZE 2350 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,800 FITS ALL. 2351 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,160 AND HOW TO -- MOST OF US ARE 2352 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,480 AFFECTED BY THE GEOGRAPHIC 2353 01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:28,440 LOCATIONS WE'RE AT AND SO THE 2354 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:29,400 PARTICULAR DIVERSITY LENS WE 2355 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,720 FIND OURSELVES IN, AND TO TRY TO 2356 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:32,800 UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF 2357 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,520 THE NUANCES AND CULTURES OF SOME 2358 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,920 OTHER KINDS OF POPULATIONS, 2359 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,560 LONG-STANDING ISSUES THAT HAVE 2360 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,080 BEEN CONFRONTED AND THAT KIND OF 2361 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:43,520 THING. 2362 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,160 SO I HAVE NOTICED AND IT'S 2363 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,440 REALLY BEEN A PLEASURE TO SEE 2364 01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:50,200 VERY CAREFUL LANGUAGE IN TERMS 2365 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,920 OF SUMMARIES WHERE PEOPLE SEEM 2366 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,720 TO BE NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT A 2367 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,600 UNIDIRECTIONAL ASPECT BUT 2368 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,040 ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO 2369 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,960 WHAT IS BEING ASKED IN A GRANT 2370 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,320 PROPOSAL TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL 2371 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,720 THE BASES ARE COVERED, SO I'M 2372 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:07,920 SEEING A LOT OF PROGRESS. 2373 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,560 SO THANKS FOR THAT. 2374 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,640 BUT PROBABLY MORE WORK YET TO BE 2375 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:11,840 DONE. 2376 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:12,960 >>ALWAYS MORE WORK, BUT THANK 2377 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,200 YOU VERY MUCH, PAM, FOR THAT. 2378 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,080 ALL RIGHT. 2379 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,040 WE'VE HIT OUR TIME MARK. 2380 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,480 I THANK YOU FOR A GREAT, RICH 2381 01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:20,800 DISCUSSION. 2382 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,600 VERY VALUABLE. 2383 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,960 WE'RE GOING TO NOW MOVE ON, I 2384 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,800 BELIEVE, TO MING. 2385 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,240 MING LEI IS GOING TO GIVE YOU AN 2386 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,960 UPDATE ON CLOUD-BASED LEARNING 2387 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:41,120 PLATFORMS. 2388 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,240 >>GOOD MORNING. 2389 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:59,720 I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A SHORT 2390 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,800 REPORT ON THE NIGMS SAND BOX, 2391 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,920 WHICH IS A CLOUD-BASED LEARNING 2392 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,360 PLATFORM. 2393 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:13,200 WE NAMED IT A SAND BOX TRYING TO 2394 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,720 CAPTURE THE ESSENCE OF A 2395 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:15,360 LEARNING ENVIRONMENT WHERE 2396 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,360 STUDENTS AND STAFF CAN REALLY 2397 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,320 LEARN BY PLAYING. 2398 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:26,560 ON THEIR OWN PACE, AND -- JUST 2399 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,200 IMAGINE THAT. 2400 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,840 SO A LITTLE BIT OF PACK GROUND. 2401 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,440 SO THE BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH IS 2402 01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:35,720 INCREASINGLY BECOMING 2403 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:36,200 DATA-DRIVEN. 2404 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,800 THAT ON ONE HAND CREATES AN 2405 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,320 INFRASTRUCTURE NEED TO PROVIDE 2406 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,160 ACCESS TO BIG DATA, DATA 2407 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,320 ANALYTIC CAPACITY AND JON JUST 2408 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,240 MENTIONED DATA STORAGE CAPACITY 2409 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,080 FOR CUTTING-EDGE RESEARCH. 2410 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,160 ON THE OTHER HAND, IT ALSO 2411 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,640 PRESENTS OPPORTUNITY FOR 2412 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,720 INVESTIGATORS TO -- ESPECIALLY 2413 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,320 FOR THOSE IN UNDERRESOURCED 2414 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,720 SITUATIONS TO MORE ACTIVELY 2415 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,800 PARTICIPATE IN RESEARCH. 2416 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,480 IF THAT ACCESS IS BROADLY 2417 01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:12,440 PROVIDED. 2418 01:18:12,440 --> 01:18:13,440 CLOUD COMPUTING DEFINITELY IS A 2419 01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:16,560 TOOL THAT CAN PROVIDE A BROAD 2420 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,520 ACCESS TO THIS CAPACITY WITHOUT 2421 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,760 EACH INSTITUTION PUTTING THE 2422 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,360 INVESTMENT TO OPERATING AND 2423 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,080 MAINTAINING THEIR OWN HIGH 2424 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,280 PERFORMANCE COMPUTING CAPACITY. 2425 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,720 SO TOGETHER, THIS REALLY FORMS 2426 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,360 THE CONCEPTUAL FOUNDATION OF OUR 2427 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:42,880 EFFORT TO TRY TO ACCELERATE TH 2428 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,080 THE -- OF CLOUD COMPUTING. 2429 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,960 SO STARTING FROM JANUARY 2021, 2430 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,160 WHEN THE PROJECT STARTED, IT 2431 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,600 REALLY HAS BEEN A BIG 2432 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,160 COLLABORATION THAT INVOLVES 2433 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:59,440 MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF NIGMS, THE 2434 01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:01,320 NIH OFFICE OF DATA SCIENCE 2435 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,360 STRATEGY, AND THE STRIDES, WHICH 2436 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,200 IS AN NIH CLOUD COMPUTING 2437 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:12,680 INITIATIVE, AND THE GOOGLE CLOUD 2438 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,200 PLATFORM AND THE AMAZON WEB 2439 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,080 SERVICE, THE PRIVATE PARTNERS, 2440 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:23,640 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, GM-FUNDED 2441 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:24,920 IDEA-INBRE AND DIVERSITY 2442 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,000 ENHANCING TRAINING AWARDS. 2443 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,600 SO ALL TOGETHER, IT'S WAY OVER 2444 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:30,720 50 PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE 2445 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,000 PROJECT, SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT 2446 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,440 LISTING THEIR NAMES, BUT THEIR 2447 01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:39,200 CONTRIBUTION IS DULY RECOGNIZED. 2448 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,640 SO WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON 2449 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:41,840 THREE SETS OF ACTIVITIES. 2450 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,440 FIRST IS TO PROVIDE A TRAINING 2451 01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:48,480 ON CLOUD COMPUTING FUNDAMENTALS, 2452 01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:51,560 AND THIS WERE GENEROUSLY 2453 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,680 PROVIDED BY GOOGLE AND AMAZON, 2454 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,840 AND TOGETHER THEY HAVE PROVIDED 2455 01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,520 60 SIX-HOUR SESSIONS, EACH 2456 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,320 ACCOMMODATES 15 PARTICIPANTS AND 2457 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,800 ALL TOGETHER ABOUT 500 2458 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:04,760 PARTICIPANTS HAVE BENEFITED 2459 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,400 THROUGH THIS TRAINING. 2460 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,280 THE SECOND SET OF ACTIVITY IS 2461 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,000 THAT THE GOOGLE ENGINEERS HELPED 2462 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,240 INVESTIGATORS FROM THE IDEA 2463 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:16,800 NATIONAL RESOURCE FOR 2464 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,280 QUANTITATIVE PROTEOMICS TO 2465 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,360 MIGRATE THEIR ENTIRE DATA 2466 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,680 OPERATION FROM ITS INSTITUTIONAL 2467 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,640 MAINFRAME SERVER TO THE CLOUD. 2468 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,360 SO WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE 2469 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,200 DETAILS, THIS MIGRATION LED TO A 2470 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,720 30-FOLD INCREASE IN THE 2471 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:41,840 RESOURRESOURCE'S SERVICE CAPACI. 2472 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,800 SO APPARENTLY PLEASED WITH THE 2473 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,000 SERVICE, THE P.I. COMMENTED, 2474 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,560 "THIS CLOUD ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN 2475 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:49,520 ABSOLUTELY TRANSFORMATIVE." 2476 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,720 THE THIRD ACTIVITY IS TO BUILD 2477 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,920 THE NIGMS SAND BOX, AS I 2478 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,320 MENTIONED, AND I'M GOING TO USE 2479 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,680 THE REST OF THE 10 MINUTES OF 2480 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,840 THIS PRESENTATION TO WALK YOU 2481 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,840 THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENTAL 2482 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,760 PROCESS AND AT THE END SHALL 2483 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,720 GIVE YOU A PEEK VIEW OF THE 2484 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:12,360 PRODUCT. 2485 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,920 SO TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL AS I 2486 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,320 SAID EARLIER TO PROVIDE USERS 2487 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,920 THIS LEARNING THROUGH PLAYING 2488 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,520 ENVIRONMENT, WE CONSIDER A FEW 2489 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:24,200 OBJECTIVES FOR THIS TOOL. 2490 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,720 ONE IS, IT HAS TO PROVIDE A 2491 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,880 COLLECTION OF LEARNING MODULES 2492 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,640 SO THAT EACH COVER A TECHNOLOGY 2493 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,480 OR METHODOLOGY SO THAT USERS 2494 01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:36,920 HAVE A RANGE OF TOPICS THEY CAN 2495 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,960 PICK AND TO LEARN. 2496 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,360 SECONDLY, THE MODULES HAVE TO BE 2497 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,560 INTERACTIVE, THEREFORE, ENABLING 2498 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,760 SELF-LEARNING, AND ALSO ACTUALLY 2499 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,480 ENABLING USERS TO RUN THEIR OWN 2500 01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:51,680 DATASET THROUGH THIS MODULE. 2501 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,440 SO GETTING A SORT OF REAL SENSE 2502 01:21:54,440 --> 01:21:56,400 WHAT THIS CAN DO FOR YOU. 2503 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,920 AND AS THE DIAGRAM ON THE LEFT 2504 01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:03,200 ILLUSTRATES, THE MODULE HAS TO 2505 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,160 BE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH A CLOUD 2506 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,600 USER ACCOUNT BY A LARGE NUMBER 2507 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,920 OF USERS, EVEN AT THE SAME TIME. 2508 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,280 AND FINALLY, THINKING FORWARD TO 2509 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:19,880 MAINTAIN A SUSTAINABLE MODEL, WE 2510 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,400 INCLUDED SORT OF A TESTING OF 2511 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:24,800 PAY MODEL IN THIS WORK. 2512 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,520 BUT THE GOAL IS THAT WHEN 2513 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,280 EVERYTHING IS SAID AND DONE, THE 2514 01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,560 COST FOR THE USER SHOULD BE 2515 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,600 MINIMIZED SO THAT THEY ONLY PAY 2516 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,200 FOR THE COMPUTATION TIME INSTEAD 2517 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,280 INSTEADOF ALL THE UP-FRONT INVET 2518 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,000 COSTS. 2519 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,280 SO OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO 2520 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,360 BLUEPRINT FOR A PROJECT LIKE 2521 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,200 THIS, SO TO FIGURE IT OUT, WE 2522 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,320 PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE PILOTS. 2523 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,240 THIS IS HOW WE DID IT. 2524 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,160 SO WE FIRST INVITED TWO SETS OF 2525 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:02,120 TWO INVESTIGATOR TEAMS. 2526 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,320 ONE OF THEM HAD BEEN TEACHING 2527 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:05,560 PROTEOMICS, THE OTHER ONE 2528 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:06,440 TEACHING GENOMICS. 2529 01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:12,560 SO THEY ARE EXPERT ON THAT. 2530 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,280 AND THEY BROUGHT IN THEIR 2531 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:15,280 CURRICULA AND THEN EACH ONE OF 2532 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,600 THEM WERE PAIRED WITH A GOOGLE 2533 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:18,600 ENGINEERING TEAM, AND THEY 2534 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,760 WORKED SIDE BY SIDE TO CONVERT 2535 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,960 THE INVESTIGATOR'S TEACHING 2536 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,360 MATERIAL INTO CLOUD-BASED 2537 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,400 WORKFLOWS. 2538 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,400 THEN THEY ADDED INSTRUCTION 2539 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,560 VIDEOS, INTERACTIVE DEMOS, AND 2540 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:35,840 PRACTICUM. 2541 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,800 AND TOGETHER, THAT LED TO THE 2542 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,440 PRODUCTION OF TWO LEARNING 2543 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,080 MODULES. 2544 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,200 IN ADDITION TO THAT MODULE, THIS 2545 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:49,440 PROCESS ALSO ENABLED OUR FUNDED 2546 01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:50,440 INVESTIGATORS TO PICK UP THE 2547 01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:52,080 PROGRAMMING SKILLS FROM THE 2548 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,840 ENGINEERS, SO THAT LATER ON, 2549 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,000 THEY CAN PRODUCE MORE MODELS 2550 01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:01,160 LIKE THIS. 2551 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,160 SO WITH THE METHOD FIGURED OUT 2552 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,440 IN YEAR ONE, SO WE SET OUT TO 2553 01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:11,160 BUILD MORE MODULES IN -- 2554 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,800 SPECIFICALLY 10 MODULES -- OH, 2555 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,440 SO ENVISION TO HAVE MORE MODULES 2556 01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:21,640 PUT IN TOGETHER TO HAVE THE 2557 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,320 VERSION ONE OF THE SANDBOX WE 2558 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,320 SET OUT TO, AS I MENTIONED, 2559 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,440 BUILD 10 MORE MODULES, BUT FROM 2560 01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:32,960 THE DIAGRAM YOU CAN TELL, THIS 2561 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,360 IS ACTUAL AN OPEN CONCEPT. 2562 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,120 AS MORE MODULES ARE BUILT THEY 2563 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,600 CAN BE ADDED SO THE SAND BOX CAN 2564 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,440 EXPAND, GETTING BIGGER AND 2565 01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:42,800 BIGGER, MORE INCLUSIVE, AND 2566 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:50,480 COVER MORE TOPICS. 2567 01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:51,880 SO IN YEAR TWO AS WE MENTIONED, 2568 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,320 WE FUNDED 10 MORE INVESTIGATOR 2569 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:55,840 TEAMS THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE 2570 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,680 SUPPLEMENTS, AND THEY BROUGHT IN 2571 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,760 THEIR CURRICULA ON DIFFICULT 2572 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,720 TOPICS AND AGAIN WORK WITH THE 2573 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,320 ENGINEERS AS I ILLUSTRATED 2574 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,120 EARLIER, AND THEY BUILT 10 MORE 2575 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:11,600 MODULES, SO TOGETHER WITH THE 2576 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,040 TWO BUILT EARLIER THROUGH THE 2577 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,160 PILOT, THOSE 12 MODULES NOW ARE 2578 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,320 SITTING IN THE CLOUD AS A 2579 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,280 DEPOSITORY, WHICH IS OUR VERSION 2580 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,080 ONE SANDBOX AS I MENTIONED. 2581 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,360 WITH THAT IN THE CLOUD READY TO 2582 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,520 GO, WE TOOK AN ADVANTAGE OF THE 2583 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:35,120 NIH CLOUD LAB TO DELIVER OR 2584 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:39,680 DEPLOY THE SANDBOX TO USERS. 2585 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,200 THE NIH CLOUD LAB IS A PLATFORM 2586 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,880 BUILT BY THE NIH STRIDES TO 2587 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,800 SECURELY DELIVER CLOUD ACCESS OR 2588 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,920 THE USERS TO USING CLOUD 2589 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,120 PROVIDED BY THE THREE LEADING 2590 01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,200 CLOUD SERVICE PROVIDERS. 2591 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:04,240 THAT IS, GOOGLE, AMAZON, AND 2592 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:05,520 MICROSOFT. 2593 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,360 SO AMONG ITS MANY FUNCTIONS, THE 2594 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,920 SANDBOX CAN DELIVER A FULL RANGE 2595 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,200 OF RESOURCES, SUCH AS SANDBOX. 2596 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,280 SO I'M GOING TO USE A DIAGRAM TO 2597 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,680 SHOW YOU HOW -- TO ILLUSTRATE 2598 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,440 HOW IT WORKS TO DELIVER THE 2599 01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:28,120 SANDBOX THROUGH THE CLOUD LAB. 2600 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,880 SO FIRST REMEMBER WE STARTED 2601 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,400 WITH NIGMS FUNDED AWARDS. 2602 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,560 SO IN THIS CASE, THE FUNDED 2603 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:41,400 AWARDS WILL IDENTIFY AND 2604 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:42,760 AUTHENTICATE THEIR FACULTY, 2605 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,000 STAFF AND STUDENT AS USERS. 2606 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,840 THEN THEY SENT THE REQUEST TO 2607 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:54,760 THE NIH CLOUD LAB TO GRANT THE 2608 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,400 USERS ACCESS. 2609 01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:01,240 WITH THE ACCESS GRANTED TO EACH 2610 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,200 INDIVIDUAL USER, THEY CAN USE 2611 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,960 THE ACCOUNT TO FETCH THE MODULE 2612 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,720 FROM THE SANDBOX OR ONE WHICH 2613 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,120 THEY WISH TO LEARN OR PRACTICE 2614 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:16,160 ON TO PLAY ON THEIR CONSOLE OR 2615 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:16,840 THEIR LAPTOP. 2616 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,560 AND IN THE END, THE COMPUTING 2617 01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:27,680 TIME OR CLOCK FOR BILLING AS I 2618 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:28,440 MENTIONED EARLIER. 2619 01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:30,880 SO I'M GOING TO USE A SHORT 2620 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,200 VIDEO TO GIVE YOU A PEEK VIEW 2621 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,040 HOW DOES THE SANDBOX REALLY 2622 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:38,880 LOOKS LIKE. 2623 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,360 >> WELCOME TO CLOUD-ATAC, AN 2624 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,360 OPEN-SOURCE CLOUD-BASED 2625 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,240 INTERACTIVE PIPELINE TUTORIAL 2626 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,560 FOR DIFFERENTIAL ATAC-SEC 2627 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,240 FOOTPRINT ANALYSIS. 2628 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,960 FOR BULK AND SINGLE CELL ATTACK 2629 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,840 SEQ DATA ON JUPITER NOTEBOOKS ON 2630 01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:57,520 THE CLOUD. 2631 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:58,760 THE PURPOSE OF THESE TUTORIALS 2632 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,600 IS TO HELP USERS FAMILIARIZE 2633 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,360 THEMSELVES WITH THE ANALYSIS, 2634 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,080 STEPS IB VOFLED IN PROCESSING 2635 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,840 ATAC-SEQ DATA, INCLUDING SPECIAL 2636 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,080 CONSIDERATIONS FOR SINGLE AND 2637 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,160 PAIRED SEQUENCING AS WELL AS FOR 2638 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,320 SINGLE CELL SEQUENCING. 2639 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,200 THESE TUTORIALS COVER SPECIFIC 2640 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:16,960 STEP BY STEP WORKFLOWS STARTING 2641 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,120 WITH DOWNLOADING RAW SEQUENCING 2642 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,560 DATA AND DIFFERENTIAL GENOME 2643 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:23,480 ANNOTATION AND ANALYSIS. 2644 01:28:23,480 --> 01:28:26,000 THIS MODULE INVOLVES INTERACTIVE 2645 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,400 QUIZZES AND CUSTOMIZED 2646 01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:27,840 VISUALIZATIONS. 2647 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,160 THIS MODULE IS COMPOSED OF FOUR 2648 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,560 LESSONS USING EXAMPLES FROM 2649 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:32,520 PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA. 2650 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,240 TO REDUCE THE TIME REQUIREMENTS, 2651 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,560 WE PROVIDE SPECIALLY PREPARED 2652 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:37,320 SAMPLE DATA. 2653 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,520 WE ENCOURAGE GOING THROUGH THESE 2654 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,400 MODULES WITH THE EXAMPLE 2655 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,240 DATASETS FIRST. 2656 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,240 YOU CAN ALSO USE THESE NOTEBOOKS 2657 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:44,960 TO PROCESS YOUR OWN DATASET. 2658 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,880 THE FIRST LESSON WILL INTRODUCE 2659 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,440 THE DATASET AND PROCEED THROUGH 2660 01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:49,600 QUALITY CONTROL, TRIMMING, 2661 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,640 ALIGNMENT TO THE GENOME, AND 2662 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:52,840 DEDUPLICATION. 2663 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,560 THE SECOND LESSON WILL INCLUDE 2664 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,080 VISH LIIZATION OF ATAC-SEQ 2665 01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,560 SIGNAL, PROFILING OF INSERT 2666 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,520 SIZES AND PEAK IDENTIFICATION. 2667 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,240 THE THIRD LESSON WILL INCLUDE 2668 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:04,040 DIFFERENTIAL PEAK 2669 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,320 IDENTIFICATION, PEAK ANNOTATION 2670 01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,680 AND FOOTPRINT ANALYSIS. 2671 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,640 THE FOURTH LESSON FOCUSES ON 2672 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,640 SINGLE CELL ATAC-SEQ DATA AND 2673 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,760 INCLUDES STEPS SIMILAR TO BULK 2674 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:15,440 ANALYSIS AS WELL AS SPECIAL 2675 01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:17,080 CONSIDERATIONS FOR SINGLE CELL. 2676 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:18,280 DURING THESE LESSONS, WE WILL 2677 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,880 USE A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE 2678 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,520 ATAC-SEQ DATASET TO EVALUATE 2679 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,360 AFTER COMPLETION OF THE B AF 2680 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,960 CHROMATIN REMODELING COMPLEX. 2681 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:37,480 UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT OF TB.F 2682 01:29:37,480 --> 01:29:38,600 HAS BEEN KEY TO BINDING SITES 2683 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,480 THAT PLAY A ROLE DURING 2684 01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:40,840 DIFFERENTIATION. 2685 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,520 THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW 2686 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:44,520 ATAC-SEQ CAN BE USED TO FURTHER 2687 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,720 OUR UNDERSTANDING OF IMPORTANCE. 2688 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:49,880 THE LESSONS INTRODUCE BASIC 2689 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:51,560 CONCEPTS AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR 2690 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:52,320 ATAC-SEQ ANALYSIS. 2691 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,080 WE RECOMMEND STARTING WITH 2692 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,840 TUTORIAL 1, PREPROCESSING AND 2693 01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:57,920 QUAL CONTROL, BUT EACH LESSON 2694 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,320 CAN BE TAKEN INDEPENDENTLY. 2695 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,480 THE STEPS ARE ORGANIZED INTO 2696 01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:03,960 BLOCKS OF CODE AND MARK DOWN 2697 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:04,240 COMMENTS. 2698 01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:05,960 TO RUN THE CODE CLICK ON A 2699 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:07,360 SECTION AND SELECT THE RUN 2700 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,200 BUTTON AT THE TOP. 2701 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,240 THESE LESSONS ALSO CONTAIN 2702 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,560 QUIZZES, FLASH CARDS, AND 2703 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,400 REPORTS THAT CAN BE INTERACTED 2704 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:16,440 WITH BY CLICKING ON THEM. 2705 01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:18,520 AT THE END OF THE LESSONS, 2706 01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,640 YOU'LL BE ABLE TO RUN A BASIC 2707 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,160 ATAC-SEQ ANALYSIS PIPELINE, 2708 01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:24,280 UNDERSTAND SPECIAL 2709 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,440 CONSIDERATIONS FOR SINGLE END 2710 01:30:26,440 --> 01:30:28,240 VERSUS PAIRED END SEQUENCING AND 2711 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,320 SINGLE CELL VERSUS BULK ATAC-SEQ 2712 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:32,520 ANALYSIS. 2713 01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:33,880 PERFORM DIFFERENTIAL ANALYSIS TO 2714 01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,520 IDENTIFY CHANGES IN 2715 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:36,840 ACCESSIBILITY, AND VISUALIZE 2716 01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,800 RESULTS IN SEVERAL WAYS, 2717 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,360 INCLUDING HOW TO PLOT SIGNAL 2718 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,640 ACROSS THE LOCUS OF INTEREST. 2719 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,520 CREATE AVERAGE PROFILES AT 2720 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,120 GENOMIC LOCI, INCLUDING 2721 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:46,720 PROMOTERS. 2722 01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,960 PERFORM MOTIF AND FOOTPRINT 2723 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,440 ANALYSIS, AND GET CLUSTERING OF 2724 01:30:50,440 --> 01:30:51,800 SINGLE CELLS BASED ON 2725 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,240 ACCESSIBILITY PROFILE. 2726 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:55,960 >>ALL RIGHT. 2727 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:57,160 THAT'S THE END OF THE VIDEO. 2728 01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:02,280 AND I HOPE FROM THAT, YOU CAN 2729 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,120 SEE WHAT USERS CAN LEARN FROM 2730 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,160 THIS PARTICULAR MODULE, THAT'S 2731 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:09,560 ONLY A VERY SMALL PART OF THE 2732 01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:10,480 MODULE, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I 2733 01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:14,560 WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT USERS 2734 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,520 THROUGH THIS PROCESS ALSO LEARN 2735 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,600 HOW TO USE CLOUD RESOURCES 2736 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,600 TOGETHER TO LEARN WHAT THEY WANT 2737 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,760 TO LEARN. 2738 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,480 SO WE HAVE SCHEDULED A PUBLIC 2739 01:31:27,480 --> 01:31:31,120 ROLLOUT ON JUNE 23RD, AND YOU'RE 2740 01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,000 ALL WELCOME TO LOG IN TO 2741 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:36,720 ACTUALLY SEE A MUCH FULLER DEMO 2742 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,400 WITH PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY KNOW 2743 01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,680 WHAT THEY'RE DOING, NOT LIKE ME, 2744 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,400 SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO 2745 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,760 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 2746 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:46,960 >>WE HAVE TIME FOR A COUPLE 2747 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,160 QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. 2748 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,480 FOR MING. 2749 01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:59,440 >>MARK? 2750 01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:00,040 OR DAVE. 2751 01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:00,240 SORRY. 2752 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:01,360 >>SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF 2753 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:01,800 QUESTIONS. 2754 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,320 SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS HAS MADE 2755 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:04,360 A LOT OF PROGRESS OVER THE LAST 2756 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,720 COUPLE OF YEARS. 2757 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,000 THE FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT 2758 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,840 ACCESS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE FIRST 2759 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,600 IT WILL BE PEOPLE WITH FUNDED 2760 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:16,200 GRANTS. 2761 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,760 BUT I'M CON DERING IF THERE'S 2762 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,720 ANY THOUGHT ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE 2763 01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,520 IT MORE ACCESSIBLE AND PROVIDING 2764 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:22,680 SOME GRANTS OF COMPUTER TIME TO 2765 01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,560 THOSE WHO WANT TO LEARN THESE 2766 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,520 SKILLS BUT MAYBE DON'T HAVE 2767 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,440 ACCESS TO AN NIH GRANT AWARD. 2768 01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:32,600 >>YEAH -- IS THIS ON? 2769 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,080 SO WE DEFINITELY THOUGHT ABOUT 2770 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:35,440 THAT. 2771 01:32:35,440 --> 01:32:38,320 SO WE STARTED WITH SORT OF A 2772 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,720 CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, SO 2773 01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:41,400 DEVELOPMENT FIRST PHASE OF 2774 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:42,280 USING. 2775 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,520 THE SECOND PHASE REALLY CAN BE 2776 01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:46,960 ESSENTIAL TO ANY OTHER 2777 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:47,760 INSTITUTION TO USE IT. 2778 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,320 THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS AT 2779 01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:54,320 THIS POINT, THE -- SERVICE 2780 01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,120 PROVIDERS ACTUALLY ONLY PROVIDE 2781 01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,400 ACCESS TO INSTITUTION ALIZED 2782 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:04,760 USERS FOR SECURITY REASONS. 2783 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,200 SO IT'S NOT LIKE JUST PLAYING A 2784 01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:09,640 COMPUTER GAME. 2785 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,800 SO AS LONG AS ORGANIZATIONS OR 2786 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:12,800 INSTITUTIONS PROVIDE THIS KIND 2787 01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,360 OF AUTHORIZATION, THEY CAN LOG 2788 01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,320 ON AND USE IT, THEN THE NEXT 2789 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,400 PHASE IS THAT'S WHY WE'RE 2790 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,120 BUILDING THIS PAY MODEL TO TEST 2791 01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,280 IT. 2792 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:27,400 THEN CLOUD LAB CAN ACTUALLY 2793 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,600 CLOCK THE COMPUTATION TIME. 2794 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,600 THEY DON'T NEED TO PAY ANYTHING 2795 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,600 ELSE BUT THE COMPUTATION TIME IS 2796 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,320 WHAT THEY NEED TO PAY. 2797 01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,960 AND ONLY THROUGH THAT WAY, THE 2798 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:43,440 PROVIDER, THE SERVICE PROVIDER 2799 01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:44,400 CAN SUSTAIN THIS KIND OF 2800 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:45,760 SERVICE. 2801 01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,440 I THINK -- DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR 2802 01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:47,680 QUESTION? 2803 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,680 >>SO I GUESS I'M WONDERING, IS 2804 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,120 THERE ANY WAY TO PAY SOME OF THE 2805 01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:58,960 COMPUTING TIME FOR STUDENTS AT 2806 01:33:58,960 --> 01:33:59,560 UNDERRESOURCED UNIVERSITIES WHO 2807 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,080 WANT TO LEARN THE SKILLS, BUT 2808 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:06,200 THEY'RE -- FACING A BILL MIGHT 2809 01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:07,440 BE SOME BARRIER TO USING IT. 2810 01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:10,360 >>SO OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS THE 2811 01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:11,640 FIRST THING IN OUR MIND WHEN WE 2812 01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:12,720 STARTED THIS PROJECT, SO THERE 2813 01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,040 ARE A NUMBER OF MEASURES FOR 2814 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:16,680 THAT. 2815 01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,880 FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO DELIVER 2816 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:20,520 THE GOOD NEWS. 2817 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:22,080 WE TESTED THE COST FOR USING 2818 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,600 THIS MODULE AT THIS TIME, RIGHT? 2819 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,120 SO A TYPICAL MODULE LIKE THIS 2820 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,560 WITH A SKILLED USER LIKE THE 2821 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,760 PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEVELOPED IT 2822 01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,360 RUNNING IT THROUGH, THE 2823 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:39,200 COMPUTATION TIME COST ABOUT $1. 2824 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,320 SO WE FACTOR IN FOR REAL USER 2825 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,160 HAVE TO FUMBLE THROUGH AND 2826 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:48,000 ESPECIALLY YOU CAN -- ESPECIALLY 2827 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,440 WHEN THEY USE THEIR OWN DATA, 2828 01:34:50,440 --> 01:34:52,520 UPLOAD THEIR OWN DATA, IT CAN 2829 01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:57,120 BE, LET'S SAY, 10 TIMES MORE, 30 2830 01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,760 TIMES MORE. 2831 01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,320 SO WE STILL FEEL LIKE THAT IS 2832 01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:03,400 MANAGEABLE, 20, $30. 2833 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:09,640 BUT STILL, THIS PHASE, THE FIRST 2834 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,640 DEPLOYMENT, WE ACTUALLY MADE -- 2835 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,680 WE HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENT THAT 2836 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,000 NIGMS AND OUR GENEROUS PARTNER 2837 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,920 ODSS WILL PAY FOR THAT. 2838 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,240 WE JUST CLOCK THE TIME, BUT WE 2839 01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:27,680 WILL PAY THE BILL TO GOOGLE. 2840 01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:33,960 THE THIRD THING I WOULD SAY IS 2841 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,920 GOING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY FOR 2842 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:38,960 WHAT YOU MENTION UNDERRESOURCED 2843 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,560 INSTITUTION, AND THE 2844 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,320 DEVELOPING -- THE INVESTIGATORS 2845 01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,640 WE PICK, THEY'RE ALL FROM SUCH 2846 01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,800 INSTITUTIONS. 2847 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,840 SO THE GRANT THAT WE FUNDED THEM 2848 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:52,640 ACTUALLY -- PART OF THE MISSION 2849 01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:56,240 OF THIS GRANT IS TO SUPPORT THE 2850 01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,680 DEVELOPMENT OF INVESTIGATORS. 2851 01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:59,560 SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO USE 2852 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:03,440 THEIR GRANT MONEY TO PAY AT 2853 01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:06,120 LEAST SOME OF THE COST. 2854 01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:10,240 AND FINALLY, I WOULD SAY, FOR 2855 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,720 THE REAL LONG TERM, THE HOPE IS 2856 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,560 THE PROCESS OF DEMOCRATIZED 2857 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,800 CLOUD COMPUTING WILL ENCOURAGE 2858 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,080 INSTITUTIONS TO SHIFT THEIR 2859 01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:26,120 VERY, VERY HEAVY, HEFTY 2860 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,120 INVESTMENT IN BUILDING HIGH 2861 01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:29,880 PERFORMING COMPUTATION TO 2862 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:34,480 ACTUALLY SERVERS, INSTEAD OF 2863 01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:36,000 BUYING NEW TOYS, UPGRADING, 2864 01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,480 ACTUALLY BUYING NEW SOFTWARE, 2865 01:36:37,480 --> 01:36:41,080 ACTUALLY THE COST -- MANY 2866 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,720 INSTITUTIONS SPEND HUNDRED 2867 01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,680 MILLIONS JUST WITHOUT KNOWING. 2868 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,840 A SMALL PART OF THAT WILL ENABLE 2869 01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:55,320 TO SUSTAIN THIS KIND OF TRAINING 2870 01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:59,040 OR LEARNING PLATFORM. 2871 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,200 >>LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUICK 2872 01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:01,440 QUESTION. 2873 01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:04,800 SO NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT THE FIRST 2874 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:05,680 MODULES DEPLOYED, IN A FEW 2875 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,320 YEARS, IT WILL BE TIME TO UPDATE 2876 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,440 THEM BECAUSE THE METHODS WILL 2877 01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:12,680 CHANGE, AND SO WE START THINKING 2878 01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,320 ABOUT HOW TO UPDATE THEM AND IF 2879 01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:16,600 YOU HAVEN'T, MAYBE NOW IS THE 2880 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:20,480 TIME TO START THINKING ABOUT 2881 01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:21,800 MECHANISMS FOR GETTING THEM 2882 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:22,480 UPDATED IN THE FUTURE. 2883 01:37:22,480 --> 01:37:24,200 >>I HAVEN'T HAD ANY TIME TO 2884 01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:25,400 THINK ABOUT ANYTHING, JUST TO 2885 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,720 GET IT OUT, BUT WE ENVISION THIS 2886 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:30,960 ACTUALLY -- IT DOESN'T HAVE TO 2887 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,360 WAIT FOR A FEW YEARS. 2888 01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,160 THE SYSTEM IS SET UP -- IT'S 2889 01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:38,640 REALLY A CONTINUOUS PROCESS. 2890 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,800 BECAUSE ANY NEW MODULE CAN BE 2891 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,040 BUILT AT ANY TIME AS LONG AS 2892 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:45,800 SORT OF MEET THIS KIND OF 2893 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:47,240 QUALITY CONTROL. 2894 01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,080 IT CAN BE ADDED IN. 2895 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,760 THAT INCLUDES NEW TOPICS, NEW 2896 01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,720 METHODOLOGY, AND ALSO AS YOU 2897 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,560 MENTIONED, UPDATING THE CURRENT 2898 01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:00,480 TOPICS AND MODULES. 2899 01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:01,880 >>SORRY, WHO DOES THE QUALITY 2900 01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,560 CONTROL CHECK? 2901 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,720 >>AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE THE 2902 01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,160 STRIDES TEAM, AND SO THIS IS A 2903 01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:09,920 GREAT POINT. 2904 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,240 SO AGAIN, STARTING THIS PROCESS, 2905 01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,480 WE'VE FACTORED THIS IN, SO WE 2906 01:38:15,480 --> 01:38:17,120 REALLY BROUGHT IN INVESTIGATORS 2907 01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,800 WHO HAVE BEEN TEACHING THIS 2908 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:20,480 CERTAIN TOPIC. 2909 01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:21,680 FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. 2910 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,360 ONE IS, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE 2911 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,440 DOING. 2912 01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:26,960 SECONDLY, WHAT HE ARE DOING 2913 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:31,200 ACTUALLY ARE THE PROVEN OR 2914 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,480 VALIDATED METHOD. 2915 01:38:33,480 --> 01:38:38,720 IT'S NOT IT'S GOOD FOR -- THAT 2916 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,160 IS ONE LEVEL OF QUALITY CONTROL 2917 01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:45,680 FROM THE SCIENTIFIC STANDPOINT. 2918 01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:46,800 THE TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, WE 2919 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,640 HAVE THE STRIDES TEAM AT NIH 2920 01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,280 TOGETHER WITH THE GOOGLE 2921 01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:55,240 ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE IT CAN BE 2922 01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,200 INTEGRATED AND DEPLOYED 2923 01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,400 SMOOTHLY. 2924 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:03,600 >>THANK YOU. 2925 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,160 >>ANY LAST MINUTE QUESTION 2926 01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,320 BEFORE I TAKE A BREAK? 2927 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:07,560 GREAT. 2928 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,280 WELL, THANK YOU, MING. 2929 01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:10,760 IT'S GREAT TO SEE THIS COMING 2930 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:11,080 ONLINE. 2931 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:12,800 VERY EXCITING, AND HOPEFULLY 2932 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,480 THIS IS GOING TO CATALYZE A LOT 2933 01:39:15,480 --> 01:39:16,600 MORE THINKING AND USE OF THE 2934 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:17,360 TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 2935 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:17,680 >>THANK YOU. 2936 01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,040 >>WE'RE GOING TO TAKE -- LET'S 2937 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,680 TAKE -- WE CAN TAKE A 10-MINUTE 2938 01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,120 BREAK, THAT WOULD BE GOOD, COME 2939 01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,840 BACK AT 11:20. 2940 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,640 >>NOW WE ARE GOING TO HEAR A 2941 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,280 PRESENTATION FROM PAMELA STACKS 2942 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,200 AND LINDA HUANG, WHO WERE THE 2943 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:35,800 CO-CHAIRS OF THE COUNCIL WORKING 2944 01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,000 GROUP THAT YOU APPROVED LAST 2945 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,600 TIME THAT HAS BEEN EVALUATING 2946 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,480 THE NIGMS BRIDGES TO 2947 01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:43,000 BACCALAUREATE PROGRAM. 2948 01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,280 JUST FOR CONTEXT, PART OF ARE 2949 01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,160 OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO 2950 01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:48,120 EVALUATE ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS ON 2951 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,280 A ROLLING BASIS, SO THIS IS ONE 2952 01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:52,240 SUCH EVALUATION AND THIS IS HOW 2953 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,520 WE DO IT. 2954 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:55,720 SO PAMELA AND LINDA, TAKE IT 2955 01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:57,600 AWAY. 2956 01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:58,760 >>GOOD MORNING. 2957 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:02,160 I'M PAMELA, AND GLAD TO BE HERE 2958 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,160 THIS MORNING, AND BE ON THE 2959 01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:05,760 INSIDE OF DOING ONE OF THESE 2960 01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,520 EVALUATIONS. 2961 01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,800 WE HAD A GREAT WORKING GROUP WHO 2962 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,760 HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING 2963 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,040 WITH THE BRIDGES TO THE 2964 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:16,160 BACCALAUREATE PROGRAM, WHICH HAS 2965 01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,440 BEEN AROUND SINCE 1992. 2966 01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:21,480 SO IT'S ONE OF THE OLDIES. 2967 01:40:21,480 --> 01:40:25,080 AND MY CO-CHAIR, LINDA, IS FROM 2968 01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,000 UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS 2969 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:29,240 BOSTON. 2970 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,040 DR. SUZANNE BARBER IS THE DEAN 2971 01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,960 OF GRADUATE STUDIES AT -- 2972 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:35,320 UNIVERSITY BUT ACTUALLY RAN A 2973 01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,160 PROGRAM AT VIRGINIA 2974 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,040 COMMONWEALTH, AND THEN DAVID 2975 01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,360 JULIAN IS AT UNIVERSITY OF 2976 01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,000 FLORIDA, RUNS BOTH A -- PROGRAM 2977 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,960 AND A BRIDGES TO BACCALAUREATE 2978 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:51,240 PROGRAM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF PWD 2979 01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:52,040 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY 2980 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:53,080 THERE. 2981 01:40:53,080 --> 01:41:00,640 THEN OUR COLLEAGUE GEZA VARHE 2982 01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,680 VARHEGYI FROM OHIO. 2983 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:04,480 THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT 2984 01:41:04,480 --> 01:41:05,640 BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT 2985 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:07,200 TWO-YEAR TO FOUR-YEAR PROGRAMS, 2986 01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:11,360 AND GEZA RUNS A PROGRAM OUT OF 2987 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,280 OHIO. 2988 01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,280 SO IN TERMS OF OUR EVALUATION, 2989 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:18,400 WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT 2990 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,680 OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE BRIDGES 2991 01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:22,040 PROGRAM. 2992 01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:23,680 ON THE SLIDES WE'LL JUST BE 2993 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,480 CALLING IT B2B BUT AT MY 2994 01:41:25,480 --> 01:41:26,360 DISCUSSION, I'LL CALL IT 2995 01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:26,800 BRIDGES. 2996 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:28,560 NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE 2997 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:29,480 BRIDGES TO THE DOCTORATE. 2998 01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:31,440 SO THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT 2999 01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:33,840 BRIDGE PROGRAMS, BUT WE'LL BE 3000 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:35,000 TALKING ONLY ABOUT THE BRIDGES 3001 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:36,720 TO THE BACCALAUREATE, WHICH IS A 3002 01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:40,000 TWO-YEAR TO A FOUR-YEAR FOCUS 3003 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:44,320 FOR THE STUDENTS. 3004 01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:45,480 ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING 3005 01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:47,120 AT IS WHETHER IT'S MEETING ITS 3006 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:48,440 STATED OBJECTIVES SO WE'LL HAVE 3007 01:41:48,440 --> 01:41:50,720 TO TELL YOU WHAT THESE ARE, IS 3008 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:52,560 IT THE RIGHT OBJECTIVES, AND 3009 01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:53,520 WHAT CAN WE LEARN. 3010 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:54,760 THIS IS AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE 3011 01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,680 THAT WE ALL HAD, IS THAT THE 3012 01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,400 FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THIS 3013 01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:04,880 PROGRAM HAS CHANGED IN 2019. 3014 01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,680 R25 REFERRED TO AS A RESEARCH 3015 01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,440 EDUCATION PROGRAM, AND TO A T34, 3016 01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:14,400 WHICH IS A TRAINING PROGRAM, AND 3017 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:15,960 SPOILER ALERT, ONE OF THE REALLY 3018 01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,160 GOOD NEWS ABOUT THAT IS GETTING 3019 01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:18,960 UNIFORMITY IN HOW THE STUDENTS 3020 01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:26,800 ARE FUNDED SO IT PUTS EVERYTHING 3021 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:27,920 ON EQUAL FOOTING FOR THE 3022 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:28,800 STUDENTS IN THE BRIDGES PROGRAM. 3023 01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,000 BUT WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE 3024 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,400 COULD LEARN FROM THE PREVIOUS 3025 01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:36,760 PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT WAS FROM UP 3026 01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:40,240 UNTIL 2019, AND WE HOPE SOON 3027 01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:41,560 THEREAFTER WE WILL BE ABLE TO 3028 01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,240 LOOK AT THE T34 AND SEE WHAT WE 3029 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:48,520 CAN LEARN FROM THE R25 PROGRAM 3030 01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,120 AND HOW IT CAN BE APPLIED TO THE 3031 01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:51,960 T34 TRAINING PROGRAM. 3032 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:53,520 AND THEN FINALLY FOLLOW UP WITH 3033 01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:54,600 THE WORKING GROUP 3034 01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:59,000 RECOMMENDATIONS. 3035 01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:00,360 SO WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU SCOPE 3036 01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,320 IN TERMS OF THE GEOGRAPHY AND 3037 01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:04,640 THE IDEA THAT WE'RE TALKING 3038 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,240 ABOUT TWO-YEAR TO FOUR-YEAR 3039 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:07,720 STUDENTS MAKING THAT TRANSITION, 3040 01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,360 AND IN SOME WAYS, IT'S ALREADY A 3041 01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:11,760 MISNOMER, TALKING ABOUT TWO-YEAR 3042 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,400 AND FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTIONS, 3043 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:14,600 BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 3044 01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,200 STUDENTS, THEY OFTEN SPEND MUCH 3045 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:17,520 LONGER TIMES AT EACH OF THOSE 3046 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:18,720 KINDS OF INSTITUTIONS. 3047 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,360 BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S 3048 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:22,360 GEOGRAPHICALLY SPREAD THROUGHOUT 3049 01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:22,600 THE U.S. 3050 01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,960 IT WAS CREATED IN 1992, AND IN 3051 01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:27,320 THAT -- AT THAT TIME, IT WAS 3052 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:28,480 CALLED BRIDGES TO THE FUTURE, 3053 01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:31,080 AND THE TWO BRIDGE PROGRAMS, THE 3054 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,680 BACCALAUREATE AND THE DOCTORATE, 3055 01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,000 WERE TOGETHER. 3056 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,760 THE OVERARCHING GOAL IS TO 3057 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,920 SUPPORT EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES 3058 01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:39,360 THAT ENHANCE THE DIVERSITY OF 3059 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,400 THE BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH 3060 01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,280 WORKFORCE, AND SO IT'S WRIT 3061 01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:45,760 LARGE IN TERMS OF THE 3062 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,920 EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES, IT CAN 3063 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:50,960 BE CURRICULAR CHANGES, RESEARCH 3064 01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,160 ACTIVITIES IN A CLASSROOM 3065 01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,480 SETTING, OR ACTUALLY DOING 3066 01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:56,440 RESEARCH WITH FACULTY. 3067 01:43:56,440 --> 01:43:58,720 IN TERMS OF THE SHORT TERM GOAL, 3068 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,000 VERY SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF ONE OF 3069 01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,960 OUR COLLEAGUES IS INVOLVED WITH 3070 01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,640 ENROLLMENT MANAGEMENT ISSUES, 3071 01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:08,080 THINKING ABOUT THE STUDENTS THAT 3072 01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:12,280 ARE LEAVING THE TWO-YEAR 3073 01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:13,280 INSTITUTION AND GOING TO THE 3074 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:14,400 FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION, AND THAT 3075 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,040 THEY'LL BE INVOLVED WITH 3076 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,280 STUDYING BIOMEDICAL SCIENCES. 3077 01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:19,480 THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ATTRIBUTE 3078 01:44:19,480 --> 01:44:20,120 THERE. 3079 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:21,680 OUR INTERMEDIATE GOAL, AND THAT 3080 01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:24,840 WAS ACTUALLY ADDED IN 2007, IS 3081 01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:26,360 TO ENHANCE THE POOL OF STUDENTS 3082 01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,560 WHO ACTUALLY COMPLETE THEIR 3083 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,960 BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN A STEM 3084 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,040 FIELD. 3085 01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:33,560 MY REGRET IS THAT THIS STAGE, WE 3086 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:38,440 HAVE MORE TO TELL BUT TH ABOUT E 3087 01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:42,840 BACCALAUREATES AWARDED BUT 3088 01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:43,240 THAT'S ONE OF THE 3089 01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:44,320 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FUTURE. 3090 01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,640 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE 3091 01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,080 BRIDGES PROGRAM IS FITTING IN 3092 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,880 WITH THE OVERARCHING GOALS 3093 01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,320 WITHIN NIH, AND WE HAVE 3094 01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,400 HIGHLIGHTED HERE THE ENTIRE POOL 3095 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,080 THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE 3096 01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:00,320 FUTURE GENERATION OF RESEARCHER, 3097 01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:04,600 SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE 3098 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:05,560 ENTIRE POOL OF FOLKS THAT ARE 3099 01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:06,760 GOING INTO HIGHER EDUCATION TO 3100 01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:11,000 ENSURE THAT WE REALLY BRING THAT 3101 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,760 FOCUS FROM VERY DIFFERENT 3102 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:14,080 INDIVIDUALS. 3103 01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,920 AND THEN THE LAST POINT HERE IS 3104 01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:18,600 THAT THE FACT THAT IT'S LOOKING 3105 01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:20,080 AT THE DIVERSITY OF THE 3106 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,240 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH WORKFORCE, 3107 01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,120 BUT WE'RE LOOKING ALSO AT 3108 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,720 MULTIPLE TRAINING AND CAREER 3109 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:28,320 STAGES. 3110 01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:29,680 SOMETIMES WE FOCUS ON THE PH.D. 3111 01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,520 OR THE MD PH.D., AND THIS THEN 3112 01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:36,840 LOOKS AT THE ENTIRE ARRAY OF 3113 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,720 HIGHER ED. 3114 01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,560 THIS WAS -- WE ALTERED IT A 3115 01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,960 LITTLE BIT, THIS CAME FROM TWD, 3116 01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:46,040 THE TRAINING, WORKFORCE 3117 01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:47,240 DEVELOPMENT AND DIVERSITY 3118 01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:57,720 PROGRAMS, AND YOU CAN SEE -- 3119 01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:08,640 SORRY, WAS I PUSHING THIS -- SO 3120 01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,000 YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE -- 3121 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:16,400 PERHAPS THIS IS A BIT TOO 3122 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:16,920 RESPONSIVE. 3123 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,400 ON THE LONGER LINE HERE, WE SEE 3124 01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:24,640 ALL THE WAY FROM K TELL TO K12 , 3125 01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,360 SO YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF THE 3126 01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:27,920 TWD PROGRAMS. 3127 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:29,240 WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 3128 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,280 MEANT TO BE THE TWO-YEAR 3129 01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:32,680 INSTITUTIONS FEEDING INTO THE 3130 01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,760 FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTIONS, WHICH IS 3131 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,360 NOW SHORTHAND AS THE 3132 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:37,440 UNDERGRADUATE, AND WE HAVE THE 3133 01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:40,520 BRIDGES TO THE BACCALAUREATE. 3134 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,000 SOMETIMES WHEN THE STUDENTS ARE 3135 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,560 TRANSFERRING IN TO THE FOUR-YEAR 3136 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,600 INSTITUTION, THERE MAY BE A 3137 01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,440 U-RISE OR A MARC PROGRAM OR A 3138 01:46:49,440 --> 01:46:50,960 BUILD PROGRAM AND IF WE CAN HELP 3139 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:52,040 STUDENTS BE AWARE OF THOSE 3140 01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:53,440 OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE THEY 3141 01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:55,760 TRANSFER, THAT'S A GOOD LANDING 3142 01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,040 SPOT FOR THEM. 3143 01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:00,760 SO I'VE SORT OF IMPLIED BUT I 3144 01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,280 WANTED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC HERE 3145 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,480 ABOUT THE POPULATION AND TALKING 3146 01:47:05,480 --> 01:47:06,000 ABOUT THE POOL. 3147 01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:07,400 I KNEW THERE WERE A LOT OF 3148 01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:08,840 STUDENTS BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT 3149 01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:10,520 THERE'S ALMOST 9 MILLION 3150 01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:14,120 STUDENTS IN 2020 THAT REPRESENT 3151 01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:15,560 41% OF THE UNDERGRADUATES THAT 3152 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,400 ARE IN COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR 3153 01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:18,280 TWO-YEAR INSTITUTIONS. 3154 01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,880 SO THAT'S A HECK OF A LOT OF 3155 01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,080 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INVESTING IN 3156 01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:24,800 THEIR HIGHER EDUCATION AND THEIR 3157 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,280 STUDENT -- EXCUSE ME -- THEIR 3158 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:31,120 FAMILY'S TRAJECTORIES. 3159 01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:32,320 THERE'S A LOT OF DATA HERE AND 3160 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:33,960 IT TURNS OUT THAT ON AVERAGE, 3161 01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:35,640 THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS 3162 01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:39,480 TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT OLDER OF 3163 01:47:39,480 --> 01:47:40,520 LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, SO 3164 01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:42,640 THE FINANCIAL ISSUES ARE 3165 01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,840 ACTUALLY QUITE COMPELLING, AND 3166 01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,360 SOMETIMES CAN BE FROM -- ARE 3167 01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:49,840 MORE LIKELY TO BE FROM 3168 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:50,760 UNDERREPRESENTED RACIAL AND 3169 01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,240 ETHNIC GROUPS THAN THE FOUR-YEAR 3170 01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,320 COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY STUDENTS. 3171 01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,480 THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST 3172 01:47:56,480 --> 01:47:57,680 CRITICAL POINT AND THIS DEALS 3173 01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,400 WITH FULL TIME VERSUS PART-TIME 3174 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:00,760 ATTENDANCE. 3175 01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:02,480 AND MANY OF THE COMMUNITY 3176 01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:04,000 COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE WORKING 3177 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,240 FULL TIME. 3178 01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:07,480 SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY 3179 01:48:07,480 --> 01:48:10,080 IT LEADS TO SUCH LONG TIMES 3180 01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:13,120 RESIDING IN A COMMUNITY COLLEGE 3181 01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:16,640 BEFORE THEY TRANSFER. 3182 01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:21,520 BUT EVEN AFTER TRANSERRI TRANSFO 3183 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,680 THE FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION, 3184 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:25,240 STUDENTS CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE 3185 01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:27,080 FINANCIAL HARD SLIPS. 3186 01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:29,000 IF YOU GO INTO A STEM FIELD, 3187 01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:30,080 THERE'S LABORATORY CHALLENGES 3188 01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:31,600 AND SO ON, SO THIS CHALLENGE OF 3189 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,680 TIME AND FINANCIAL NEED WEIGHS 3190 01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,000 HEAVILY ON OUR TRANSFER 3191 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,520 STUDENTS. 3192 01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:44,640 SO THE QUESTIONS THAT BUILT INTO 3193 01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,120 WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE MEETING THE 3194 01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,800 GOALS IS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE 3195 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,400 BRIDGES STUDENTS TRANSFER TO A 3196 01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:53,080 FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION? 3197 01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,120 IT TURNS OUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO 3198 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:55,440 BE A PARTNER INSTITUTION, SO 3199 01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:56,760 THESE ARE PARTNERS THAT ARE 3200 01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:57,400 FUNDED. 3201 01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,760 AND THE STUDENTS, OF COURSE, ARE 3202 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,840 FREE AGENTS, SO THOUGH THE 3203 01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:03,480 RELATIONSHIP IS ESTABLISHED AND 3204 01:49:03,480 --> 01:49:05,560 HOPEFULLY SOME OF THE MENTORING 3205 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,760 IS HAPPENING AT BOTH 3206 01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,800 INSTITUTIONS, STUDENTS ACTUALLY 3207 01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:12,880 CAN GO TO ANOTHER FOUR-YEAR 3208 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:13,720 INSTITUTION AND THOSE ARE 3209 01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:14,280 FOLLOWED AS WELL. 3210 01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:15,640 AND THEN FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY 3211 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:17,480 TRANSFER TO A FOUR-YEAR 3212 01:49:17,480 --> 01:49:19,720 INSTITUTION, WHAT PERCENTAGE 3213 01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,280 COMPLETE THE 3214 01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:21,720 BACCALAUREATE DEGREE? 3215 01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:26,080 WE'RE INTERESTED IN, IN THE 3216 01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,160 FUTURE, ACTUALLY COMPLETING THE 3217 01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:30,040 BACCALAUREATE DEGREE IN STEM 3218 01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:31,600 FIELDS, BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE 3219 01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:33,000 ONLY FOCUSED ON THE 3220 01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:33,840 BACCALAUREATE AT THE GREE. 3221 01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:38,360 DEGREE.THE TAKE-HOME, AND WE HO 3222 01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:39,240 CONVINCE YOU OF THIS, IS THAT 3223 01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:40,720 THE BRIDGES PROGRAM IS BEING 3224 01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:41,720 VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR THESE 3225 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:46,280 STUDENTS. 3226 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,040 A SMALL AMOUNT OF DATA TO SET 3227 01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:50,680 YOU UP PERHAPS TO THE COMPLEXITY 3228 01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:57,120 OF THIS ANALYSIS, AND WE WERE 3229 01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:00,760 STRONGLY SUPPORTED BY -- AT THE 3230 01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:01,840 NIH WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF 3231 01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:02,600 THIS DATA. 3232 01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,360 SO THOUGH THIS PROGRAM STARTED 3233 01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:08,600 IN 1992, WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE 3234 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,920 YEARS 2005 TO 2019, SO THAT'S 3235 01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:12,200 ABOUT 15 YEARS WORTH, AND DURING 3236 01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:15,480 THAT TIME PERIOD, 88 PROGRAMS 3237 01:50:15,480 --> 01:50:17,240 WERE FUNDED. 3238 01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:21,400 SO THAT'S NOT -- SOME 3239 01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:26,520 INSTITUTIONS ARE FUNDED MELT PEE 3240 01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,200 TIMES SO THESE ARE ACTUALLY 3241 01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:29,160 88 INDIVIDUAL INSTITUTIONS OR 3242 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:30,760 GROUPS OF INSTITUTIONS' 3243 01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:31,200 PARTNERSHIPS. 3244 01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:32,640 IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 3245 01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:33,520 INSTITUTIONS INVOLVED, NOTE THAT 3246 01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,440 FOR THE TWO-YEAR, WE HAD 167, SO 3247 01:50:36,440 --> 01:50:38,160 WE OFTEN HAVE MORE THAN ONE 3248 01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:39,120 COMMUNITY COLLEGE INTERACTING 3249 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,320 WITH A FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION. 3250 01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:44,600 OR VICE VERSA, IT TURNS OUT. 3251 01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,680 IN THE FOUR-YEAR, WE HAVE 3252 01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:48,600 92 PROGRAMS INVOLVED. 3253 01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,600 FOR THE PROGRAM STRUCTURE, IN 3254 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,440 SOME WAYS THIS IS A LITTLE BIT 3255 01:50:53,440 --> 01:50:54,640 OF A TEASE FOR YOU. 3256 01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,680 WE CALL IT A SUMMER-ONLY OR A 3257 01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,520 SUMMER-PLUS PROGRAM. 3258 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,680 AND THERE WERE HUGE DIVERSITY IN 3259 01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:04,920 THE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT 3260 01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:06,360 WERE INVOLVED IN THESE PROGRAMS 3261 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,920 UNDER THE R25 FOCUS. 3262 01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,840 AND IN THIS CASE, THERE WERE 3263 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,200 SOME PROGRAMS THAT ONLY DID A 3264 01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,280 SUMMER -- A SUMMER-ONLY RESEARCH 3265 01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:19,600 PROJECT, AND THAT WAS 21 OF 3266 01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,200 THESE INSTITUTIONS, AND THEN THE 3267 01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:22,920 OTHERS WERE CALLED SUMMER-PLUS 3268 01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:24,040 BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID THEY HAVE 3269 01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:25,400 THE SUMMER ACTIVITY, THEY ALSO 3270 01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:29,920 HAVE SOME RESEARCH ACTIVITY OR 3271 01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:31,920 PAYMENTS FOR THE STUDENTS DURING 3272 01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:32,720 THE ACADEMIC YEAR. 3273 01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:36,120 TO GIVE YOU A SIZE OF THE NUMBER 3274 01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:37,600 OF STUDENTS WHO WERE IMPACTED, 3275 01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:39,920 THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARTICIPANT 3276 01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,880 SPACES UNDER THIS TIME PERIOD 3277 01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:44,640 WAS 9800. 3278 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:46,360 THE MEDIAN WAS 15 SPACES PER 3279 01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,360 YEAR, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE RANGE 3280 01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:50,200 IS ACTUALLY QUITE LARGE, FROM 3281 01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,200 3 TO 48 SPACES PER YEAR. 3282 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,240 NOT ALL OF THESE SPACES WERE 3283 01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,280 FUNDED, AND SO THE TOTAL NUMBER 3284 01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,240 OF STUDENTS SUPPORTED ARE ABOUT 3285 01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:01,040 8500. 3286 01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:02,080 MEANING THAT IN GENERAL, IN 3287 01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:03,520 TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF SPACES 3288 01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:07,000 PER STUDENTS, YOU HAVE 1.2 YEARS 3289 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:08,200 OF SUPPORT PROVIDED FOR THE 3290 01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:09,200 NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO ARE 3291 01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:12,720 THERE. 3292 01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:13,880 IT DOES TURN OUT THAT FOR SIX OF 3293 01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:15,240 THE PROGRAMS, WE DON'T KNOW THE 3294 01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:16,360 NUMBER OF STUDENTS. 3295 01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,000 SO THIS IS, AGAIN, TO GIVE YOU A 3296 01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:19,840 FEELING, THIS IS ALL 3297 01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,800 SELF-REPORTED DATA, SO YOU CAN 3298 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:27,280 FACTOR THAT IN AS WELL. 3299 01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:28,440 SO THIS IS OUR BASELINE. 3300 01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:30,120 I'M SETTING YOU UP WITH THIS 3301 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,760 INFORMATION BECAUSE OF A REALLY 3302 01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:32,840 CRAZY SLIDE THAT'S GOING TO SHOW 3303 01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:33,720 UP. 3304 01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,720 IT'S NOT ONE THAT WE'RE USED TO 3305 01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,040 SEEING, BUT IF YOU BEAR WITH ME, 3306 01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:39,320 DON'T MAKE IT A TRADITIONAL 3307 01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,080 SLIDE. 3308 01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:43,800 IS MY WARNING. 3309 01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,640 SO THE SCOPE OF THE -- I TOLD 3310 01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:50,240 YOU, RIGHT? 3311 01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:51,120 THE SCOPE OF THE EVALUATION. 3312 01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:52,880 SO WE HAVE SOME YEARS HERE, SO I 3313 01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:57,480 SAID THAT IT STARTED IN 1992. 3314 01:52:57,480 --> 01:52:59,000 TURNS OUT EACH ONE OF THESE 3315 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,040 COLUMNS IS A PARTICULAR PROGRAM. 3316 01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:05,960 SO THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN FUNDED 3317 01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:07,040 CONTINUOUSLY THROUGH COMPETITIVE 3318 01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:11,960 RENEWALS SINCE 1992 UP TO 2019, 3319 01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,160 AND TO START OUT, IN THAT FIRST 3320 01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:15,560 FUNDING YEAR, FIVE OF THE 3321 01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,200 INSTITUTIONS WERE FUNDED -- OR 3322 01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:21,280 PARTNERSHIPS WERE FUNDED, AND IF 3323 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:22,800 YOU GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 3324 01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:23,960 TOP, YOU SEE ONLY THREE, 3325 01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:25,080 HOWEVER, CONTINUED THEIR FUNDING 3326 01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,600 OVER THAT LENGTH OF TIME. 3327 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:29,880 SO THEN AS WE WALK THROUGH HERE, 3328 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:33,600 YOU CAN SEE AS WE GET DOWN TO 3329 01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,640 2019, YOU GET ONE INSTITUTION 3330 01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:41,880 THAT WAS FUNDED THAT YEAR, AND 3331 01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,280 THAT WAS EXACTLY AT THE 3332 01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:47,760 TRANSITION GOING FROM THE R25 TO 3333 01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,320 THE T34 TRAINING MECHANISM. 3334 01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:57,160 A COUPLE OF OTHER ELEMENTS HERE. 3335 01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:58,480 AS YOU GO ALL THE WAY UP, YOU 3336 01:53:58,480 --> 01:53:59,960 CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY 3337 01:53:59,960 --> 01:54:01,760 A FAIR NUMBER OF INSTITUTIONS 3338 01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:09,080 THAT ARE FUNDED IN 2019. 3339 01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:10,800 FORGIVE ME IF MY NUMBERS ARE 3340 01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:12,080 WRONG, BUT SOMETHING LIKE 3341 01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,200 33 ALONG THAT TOP ROW ARE THE 3342 01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:15,720 CURRENT -- WERE THE CURRENTLY 3343 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:20,520 FUNDED PARTNERSHIPS IN 2019. 3344 01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:24,560 AS IS OFTEN THE CASE, WE DO GET 3345 01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:26,320 COST EXTENSIONS, SO THE YELLOW 3346 01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:27,840 BLOCKS ARE TO INDICATE THAT. 3347 01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,680 BUT IMPORTANTLY, IN TERMS OF, 3348 01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,640 AGAIN, THE DATA ANALYSIS PART OF 3349 01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:36,240 US, THE Xs ARE WHERE NO 3350 01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,960 STUDENT LEVEL DATA WAS PROVIDED, 3351 01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:40,400 AND WE'RE ALWAYS VERY SAD ABOUT 3352 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,800 THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T, THEN -- 3353 01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,440 WE CAN'T TRACK BEST PRACTICES OR 3354 01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,920 WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE 3355 01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:48,280 STUDENTS THERE. 3356 01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,640 SO THIS IS TO GIVE YOU A SENSE 3357 01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:53,840 THAT THERE'S HUGE VARIETY IN THE 3358 01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,720 LENGTH OF TIME THAT PROGRAMS 3359 01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:58,960 HAVE EXISTED IN THIS FUNDING 3360 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,520 MECHANISM. 3361 01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,760 AND THAT THERE'S A HUGE ARRAY OF 3362 01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,960 SIZE AND A HUGE ARRAY OF 3363 01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:07,160 DIFFERENT KINDS OF PRACTICES. 3364 01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:08,680 AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER 3365 01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:18,600 TO MY COLLEAGUE. 3366 01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,000 >>THANK YOU, PAM, FOR THAT 3367 01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:20,440 SETUP. 3368 01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:21,680 SO I'M GOING TO TELL YOU NOW 3369 01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:23,280 ABOUT THE WORKING GROUP, THE 3370 01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,600 DATA THAT WE LOOKED AT, WHAT OUR 3371 01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,520 FINDINGS WERE, AND WHAT OUR 3372 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,960 RECOMMENDATIONS WERE. 3373 01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:37,520 SO -- I WENT BACKWARDS. 3374 01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:38,920 AM I GOING BACKWARDS? 3375 01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:39,120 SORRY. 3376 01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:39,400 THERE WE GO. 3377 01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,000 ALL RIGHT. 3378 01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,400 SO TO COME BACK TO THE SLIDE 3379 01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:44,560 THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, THE 3380 01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:45,640 FIRST THING THAT WE WERE ASKED 3381 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:47,400 TO DO WAS TO LOOK TO SEE WHETHER 3382 01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:48,720 OR NOT THE BRIDGES TO 3383 01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:50,960 BACCALAUREATE PROGRAM, THE B2B 3384 01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:51,960 PROGRAM, WAS ACTUALLY MEETING 3385 01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:52,840 THE PROGRAM GOALS. 3386 01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,440 SPECIFICALLY, WE LOOKED AT THE 3387 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,640 EXPLICIT GOALS THAT WERE STATED 3388 01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:57,960 ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE B2B 3389 01:55:57,960 --> 01:55:59,160 STUDENTS WERE ACTUALLY 3390 01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,120 TRANSFERRING TO FOUR-YEAR 3391 01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:02,440 INSTITUTIONS AND WHETHER OR NOT 3392 01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:03,840 ONCE THEY TRANSFERRED TO A 3393 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:04,640 FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION, WHETHER 3394 01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,040 OR NOT THEY ACTUALLY COMPLETED 3395 01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:07,560 THEIR BACHELOR'S DEGREE. 3396 01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:08,960 AND SO NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE 3397 01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:10,400 AND DICE THE DATA, WE LOOKED AT 3398 01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:11,160 IT IN MANY FORMS. 3399 01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,240 WE LOOKED AT IT FROM A 3400 01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:13,960 PROGRAM-SPECIFIC LEVEL, WE 3401 01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,040 LOOKED AT IT FROM A STUDENT 3402 01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,680 LEVEL DATA KIND OF THING. 3403 01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:20,120 THE WORKING PANEL FOUND THAT 3404 01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,240 THERE WAS NO QUESTION THAT THE 3405 01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:23,640 B2B PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL, THAT 3406 01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:25,120 IT WAS ACTUALLY MEETING ITS 3407 01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:25,320 GOAL. 3408 01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:26,920 SO I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF 3409 01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:27,880 DATA, NOT ALL OF THE DATA THAT 3410 01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:29,120 WE LOOKED AT. 3411 01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:30,960 SO HERE THIS IS STUDENT-LEVEL 3412 01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:31,280 DATA. 3413 01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:33,160 SO THESE ARE NOT -- YOU KNOW, 3414 01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:34,880 ALL THE STUDENTS ARE POOLED 3415 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:39,160 TOGETHER, AND THEN THEY'RE 3416 01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:41,000 GRAPHED DEPENDING ON HOW MANY 3417 01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,400 YEARS OF FOLLOW-UP THAT THERE 3418 01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:44,760 WAS FOR THAT STUDENT. 3419 01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,560 IN BLUE, WE HAVE THE B2B 3420 01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:48,800 STUDENTS THAT WERE IN THE 3421 01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,000 PROGRAM, AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS 3422 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,480 THAT IF YOU FIT A CURVE TO THAT 3423 01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:58,960 DATA, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S 3424 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,680 EVENTUALLY REACHED AT ABOUT 80% 3425 01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:01,120 OF TRANSFER. 3426 01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:02,880 WHICH IS SUPER GOOD, ESPECIALLY 3427 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,400 COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL STUDENT 3428 01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:06,160 CLEARINGHOUSE RATES, WHICH IS 3429 01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:07,880 COMPLICATED AND I CAN GET INTO 3430 01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,000 THAT IF YOU ARE REALLY 3431 01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:10,360 INTERESTED, BUT IF THEY GO AHEAD 3432 01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,840 AND TAKE THAT DATA AND THEN FIT 3433 01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:14,480 THE CURVE ON TO THAT, THAT DATA 3434 01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:15,800 IS ONLY PROVIDED UP TO SIX YEARS 3435 01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:22,480 BUT YOU GET AN -- THERE'S A BIG 3436 01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:23,840 DIFFERENCE HERE AND A BIG IMPACT 3437 01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:24,920 ON THESE STUDENTS FOR GETTING 3438 01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:28,280 THEM TO TRANSFER TO A COMMUNITY 3439 01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:38,320 COLLEGE -- TO A FOUR-YEAR. 3440 01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:40,520 THEN YOU LOOK AT THE STUDENTS, 3441 01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:41,480 ONCE THEY TRANSFER, WHAT HAPPENS 3442 01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:42,400 TO THEM THERE. 3443 01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,040 THE BRIDGES TO BACCALAUREATE 3444 01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:45,320 STUDENTS ARE HERE IN BLUE. 3445 01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:48,360 THIS IS STUDENT-11 DATA AND WE 3446 01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:53,000 DID LOOK OT IT AT IT IN MANY DIT 3447 01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:53,440 WAYS. 3448 01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:54,640 YOU GET A COMPLETION RATE OF 3449 01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:58,000 GREATER THAN 80%, I THINK THAT'S 3450 01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:00,480 LIKE 89% AND THAT, AGAIN, IS FAR 3451 01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:04,680 GREATER THAN THE NSC DATA HERE 3452 01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,240 WHICH, WHEN YOU FIT TO A CURVE, 3453 01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:13,880 GIVES YOU AN ASYMPTOTIC RATE OF 3454 01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:15,560 ABOUT 70%. 3455 01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,080 SO IT WAS SUPER IMPORTANT, 3456 01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:19,160 IMPACTFUL, AND BASICALLY 3457 01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:20,800 PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR VERY 3458 01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:23,320 IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL GROUP OF 3459 01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:28,120 TALENT THAT ISN'T ALWAYS GREATLY 3460 01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:28,440 SUPPORTED. 3461 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,960 SO IN SUMMARY, FOR LOOKING AT 3462 01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,720 TRANSFER AND LOOKING AT 3463 01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:34,800 COMPLETION, LIKE I SAID, WE FELT 3464 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:38,160 LIKE THIS PROGRAM MET THE GOALS, 3465 01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:43,000 THE ASYMPTOTIC TRANSFER RATES 3466 01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,120 WERE VERY GOOD, THEY CALLED FOR 3467 01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:49,520 THE FOA IN 2007 WHICH WAS 70%, 3468 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:50,520 THE BACHELOR COMPLETIONS WHICH 3469 01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:52,800 ARE BETWEEN EIGHT' TO 90% WHICH 3470 01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:54,840 ARE ALSO GOOD WHICH EXCEEDS THE 3471 01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:56,360 NATIONAL BENCHMARK HERE OF 50% 3472 01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,440 FROM THE NCES. 3473 01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:00,760 SO I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE 3474 01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:02,120 SIGHT OF THE IDEA THAT THIS IS A 3475 01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:03,800 VERY GOOD PROGRAM, IT'S A VERY 3476 01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,560 IMPACTFUL PROGRAM AND IT'S SUPER 3477 01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:06,800 IMPORTANT. 3478 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:07,960 THERE WAS NOBODY ON THE WORKING 3479 01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:09,400 GROUP WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS EVEN 3480 01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:12,760 A CONTROVERSIAL QUESTION. 3481 01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,120 SO THEN WE DECIDED TO TAKE AND 3482 01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:17,440 LOOK AND SEE, ARE THE GOALS THE 3483 01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:18,520 CORRECT GOALS BECAUSE WE'RE 3484 01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:19,680 BEING ASKED TO LACK AT THIS. 3485 01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:25,120 SO CURRENTLY TH EXPLICIT GOALS E 3486 01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:26,240 TRANSFER TO FOUR-YEAR 3487 01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:27,880 INSTITUTION WHICH WE LOOKED AT 3488 01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:29,160 AND COMPLETION OF BACHELOR'S 3489 01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:29,600 GREE. 3490 01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:30,920 WE ONLY HAD THE DATA WE HAD TO 3491 01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:31,360 WORK ON. 3492 01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:32,440 WHAT THE WORKING GROUP FELT 3493 01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:34,280 LIKE, WHICH I THINK PAM HAS 3494 01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:35,600 ALREADY TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT, 3495 01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,240 IS THAT THE NIH'S EXPLICIT OR 3496 01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:38,760 KIND OF IMPLICIT GOAL HERE IS TO 3497 01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:40,600 TRY TO ENHANCE THE DIVERSITY IN 3498 01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,160 THE BIOMEDICAL WORKFORCE. 3499 01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:43,560 SO WE KEPT ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE 3500 01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,520 WHAT DID THEY GRADUATE WITH 3501 01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:46,040 A DEGREE IN? 3502 01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:48,320 WHAT ARE THEY DOING AFTERWARDS? 3503 01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:49,520 AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA TO 3504 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:53,080 REALLY BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THIS 3505 01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:57,400 UP. 3506 01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:59,280 WE CONSIDER EXPLICIT GOALS THAT 3507 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,680 COULD INCLUDE METRICS THAT WOULD 3508 02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:03,880 ALLOW US BE BETTER TO EVALUATE 3509 02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:06,240 THE OUTCOMES HERE BY LOOKING AT 3510 02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:07,440 DIVERSITY IN BIOMEDICAL 3511 02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,280 WORKFORCE. 3512 02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:11,720 SO WE WANTED TO KNOW SIMPLE 3513 02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:13,920 THINGS LIKE IS IT A STEM-RELATED 3514 02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:14,920 BACHELOR'S DEGREE OR DID THEY GO 3515 02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:18,440 OFF AND DO ART HISTORY, WHICH IS 3516 02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:20,080 GREAT AND IMPORTANT BUT MAY NOT 3517 02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:24,320 BE PART OF THE GOALS HERE BUT WE 3518 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:26,520 DON'T HAVE THAT DATA TO REALLY 3519 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:27,280 BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 3520 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:28,840 WE WERE ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT DATA 3521 02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:30,520 ON ACTIVITIES AFTER COMPLETION 3522 02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:34,400 OF THE PROGRAM THERE ARE OTHER 3523 02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:35,800 TWD PROGRAMS OUT THERE WHERE THE 3524 02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:38,200 GOAL FOR THOSE PROGRAMS IS TO 3525 02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:39,960 GET STUDENTS TO GO INTO 3526 02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:40,360 GRADUATE DEGREES. 3527 02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:41,720 WE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE GREAT 3528 02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:42,720 IF THESE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 3529 02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:44,200 STUDENTS WENT ON TO GRADUATE 3530 02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:46,520 DEGREES BUT HONESTLY YOU'RE 3531 02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:47,720 FINDING THEM QUITE YOUNG IN THE 3532 02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:49,480 ENTIRE PROCESS, AND THE WORKING 3533 02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:52,240 GROUP FELT STRONGLY THAT IF 3534 02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:53,760 THESE STUDENTS ENTERED THE 3535 02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:54,640 BIOMEDICAL WORKFORCE, THAT THAT 3536 02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:56,280 SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A WIN AS 3537 02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,160 WELL, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO 3538 02:00:58,160 --> 02:00:59,880 HAVE THAT DATA WHICH WE DON'T 3539 02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:04,080 HAVE RIGHT NOW. 3540 02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:05,800 WE ALSO UNDERSTAND IT CAN BE 3541 02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:08,000 ONEROUS TO HAVE SOMEBODY AT A 3542 02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:08,640 COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRYING TO 3543 02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:10,640 FOLLOW UP ON ALL THESE PEOPLE 3544 02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:11,960 WHERE THEY'VE GONE OFF AND DONE 3545 02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:13,680 SOMETHING AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN 3546 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:15,240 SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT IF 3547 02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,760 THERE WAS SOME WAY TO GET THIS 3548 02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:18,280 DATA, IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT 3549 02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:19,880 IN EVALUATING THE IMPACT OF THIS 3550 02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:21,200 PARTICULAR PROGRAM ON THE 3551 02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:24,280 BIOMEDICAL WORKFORCE. 3552 02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:25,480 SO IN THE WORKING GROUP ALSO 3553 02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:30,200 WANTED TO CONSIDER GIVEN THIS 3554 02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:31,240 PROGRAM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 3555 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:34,240 QUITE A WHILE, ARE THERE LESSONS 3556 02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:35,640 THAT CAN BE LEARNED THAT WE CAN 3557 02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:37,720 THEN APPLY TO THE ONGOING B2B TO 3558 02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:39,960 TRY TO MAKE IT MORE IMPACTFUL 3559 02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:41,440 AND TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN KIND 3560 02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:43,640 OF ITS SPENDING, AND SO WE 3561 02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:46,360 LOOKED AT THE DATA AND AT THIS 3562 02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:49,000 POINT I REALLY NEED TO THANK THE 3563 02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:50,200 TEAM BECAUSE WE ASKED THEM 3564 02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:51,800 PROBABLY A MILLION QUESTIONS AND 3565 02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:53,240 ASKED THEM TO CRUNCH THE DATA IN 3566 02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:54,560 DIFFERENT WAYS AND NOT THE WAY 3567 02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:57,360 THAT THEY DID IT BUT THE WAY WE 3568 02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:00,920 WANTED TO LOOK AT TO TRY AND SEE 3569 02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:02,480 IF WE COULD FIND SOMETHING THAT 3570 02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:03,000 WOULD BE USEFUL. 3571 02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,280 IT WAS REALLY HARD. 3572 02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:05,080 WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE IS 3573 02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:06,160 THIS IS ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT 3574 02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:08,320 WE LOOKED AT WHERE WE LOOKED AT 3575 02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:09,040 FUNDING DURATION, AND WE SAW 3576 02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:11,440 THAT FUNDING DURATION HERE 3577 02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:13,400 DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE A STRONG 3578 02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:14,720 EFFECT ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS 3579 02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:15,200 WHO TRANSFER. 3580 02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:16,560 SO THIS IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED 3581 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:18,600 HERE, BUT THIS IS STUDENT-LEVEL 3582 02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:19,800 DATA DIVIDED UP INTO WHETHER 3583 02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,080 THEY WERE IN A PROGRAM WITH HE 3584 02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:23,400 15 OR MORE YEARS OF FOLLOW-UP OR 3585 02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:25,280 A PROGRAM THAT WAS OF SHORTER 3586 02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:29,320 DURATION AND HAD LESS FOLLOW-UP. 3587 02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:30,640 AND THE GOOD NEWS IS IT DIDN'T 3588 02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:32,040 SEEM TO MATTER THAT MUCH IN THAT 3589 02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:33,240 THE STUDENTS WERE STILL 3590 02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:34,240 TRANSFERRING AT ABOUT THE SAME 3591 02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:35,240 RATES, DEPENDING ON WHAT WAS 3592 02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:38,000 GOING ON, SO THERE WAS NO STRONG 3593 02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:39,720 EFFECT HERE. 3594 02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:41,040 THEN WE KEPT ASKING ALL THESE 3595 02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:42,320 OTHER QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT ELSE 3596 02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:44,320 CAN WE LEARN FROM THIS, IS THERE 3597 02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:47,600 AN OPTIMUM PROGRAM SIZE BECAUSE 3598 02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:48,800 LIKE PAM WAS SAYING, THESE 3599 02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:50,000 PROGRAMS WERE VERY 3600 02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:50,360 HETEROGENEOUS. 3601 02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:52,960 WE WANTED TO KNOW, LIKE, WAS 3602 02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:54,480 THERE SUCCESS IF THE STUDENT 3603 02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:55,240 TRANSFERRED TO AN INSTITUTION 3604 02:02:55,240 --> 02:03:01,800 THAT HAD A MARK O MARC, A RISE A 3605 02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:04,560 BUILD OR EVEN AN NSF PROGRAM, IS 3606 02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:05,960 THERE SOME RECOMMENDATION, IS 3607 02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:07,200 THERE SOME KIND OF BEST 3608 02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:08,480 PRACTICES, IS THERE 3609 02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:11,320 INSTITUTIONAL IMPACT, BOOT 3610 02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:12,960 CAMPS, PEER MENTORS, CAN WE SHOW 3611 02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:14,400 THAT THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT? 3612 02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:15,840 THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE DATA ARE 3613 02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:17,920 JUST SUPER NOISY BECAUSE OF THIS 3614 02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,000 GREAT HETEROGENEITY IN THE WAY 3615 02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:20,440 THE PROGRAMS ARE RUN, THE WAY 3616 02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:22,560 THE PROGRAMS ARE FUNDED, THE 3617 02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,280 KIND OF PROGRAMMING THAT WAS 3618 02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:25,360 USED, THE WAY THAT THE STUDENTS 3619 02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:27,360 ARE PAID, AND SO NO MATTER HOW 3620 02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:31,480 HARD WE TRIED TO PUSH DEMA TO DO 3621 02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:32,720 THIS ANALYSIS FIRST, IT WAS VERY 3622 02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:33,200 DIFFICULT. 3623 02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:34,560 SO WHAT THE WORKING GROUP WOULD 3624 02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:36,440 LIKE TO RECOMMEND, WHICH WAS NOT 3625 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:37,480 WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE TIME 3626 02:03:37,480 --> 02:03:40,800 THAT WE COULD DO, IS TO ANALYZE 3627 02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:42,360 THE EXISTING DATA FOR 3628 02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:43,560 STATISTICAL OUTLIERS. 3629 02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:45,200 PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUPER 3630 02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:46,200 SUCCESSFUL OR PROGRAMS THAT 3631 02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:47,480 UNFORTUNATELY MAY NOT HAVE DONE 3632 02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:48,080 AS WELL. 3633 02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:49,800 AND PERHAPS LOOK FOR ACTIVITY 3634 02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:53,320 THAT MIGHT ENHANCE OR DIMINISH 3635 02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:54,600 SUCCESS, BUT I THINK THAT'S MUCH 3636 02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:55,760 MORE COMPLICATED THAN THE TIME 3637 02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:58,480 THAT WE HAD AND THE DATA THAT IS 3638 02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:01,760 EVEN AVAILABLE. 3639 02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:03,600 AND WE WERE THINKING THAT COULD 3640 02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:04,800 REQUIRE QUALITATIVE CASE STUDIES 3641 02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:05,160 APPROACHES. 3642 02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:06,800 THE OTHER POINT THAT GOT BROUGHT 3643 02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:09,080 UP IS WHETHER OR NOT, WHICH 3644 02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:10,520 WOULD ALSO TAKE MORE TIME AND WE 3645 02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:12,400 MAY NOT HAVE THE DATA, IF WE 3646 02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:14,120 LOOKED AT INTERSECTIONAL DATA 3647 02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:15,800 ANALYSIS AND WE LOOKED AT A MUCH 3648 02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:17,320 MORE FINE GRAIN DETAIL OF THE 3649 02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:18,880 DATA THAT MAYBE WE COULD PULL 3650 02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:19,840 SOMETHING OUT THAT THE WORKING 3651 02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:23,360 GROUP WAS UNFORTUNATELY UNABLE 3652 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,960 TO DO. 3653 02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:26,840 OKAY. 3654 02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:28,160 SO THAT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION 3655 02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:28,480 THERE. 3656 02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:31,680 THEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT GOING 3657 02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:32,760 FORWARD, LOOKING AT THE 3658 02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:34,920 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE R 3659 02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:37,080 MECHANISM AND THE T MECHANISM, 3660 02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:38,000 WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE KIND 3661 02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:38,880 OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE 3662 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:39,640 WANTED TO MAKE. 3663 02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:41,720 AND IN THIS CASE, WE WEREN'T 3664 02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:42,680 NECESSARILY DRAWING FROM DATA, 3665 02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:43,880 BUT WE WERE DRAWING FROM THE 3666 02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:45,000 EXPERTISE OF OUR WORKING GROUP, 3667 02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:47,000 WHICH INCLUDED PEOPLE WHO HAVE 3668 02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:48,040 WRITTEN THESE GRANTS, PEOPLE WHO 3669 02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:49,920 RUN THESE PROGRAMS, PEOPLE WHO 3670 02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,880 PARTICIPATED AS FACULTY MENTORS 3671 02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:54,080 AND PEOPLE WHO'VE REVIEWED THESE 3672 02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:55,640 PROGRAMS FOR TWD, PEOPLE WHO ARE 3673 02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:56,600 JUST GENERALLY FAMILIAR WITH 3674 02:04:56,600 --> 02:05:01,120 THESE TWD TRAINING MECHANISMS. 3675 02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:03,880 SO THIS TRANSITION FROM THE R 3676 02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:05,360 KIND OF MECHANISM TO THE T 3677 02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:09,320 MECHANISM HAPPENED IN 2019, AND 3678 02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:10,760 IT'S MEANT TO ALIGN THE BRIDGES 3679 02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:12,000 TO THE BACCALAUREATE WITH THE 3680 02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:15,040 OTHER NIGMS TRAINING MECHANISMS. 3681 02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:21,640 PART OF IT IS THE -- WE DIDN'T 3682 02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:27,080 HAVE THE DATA FROM THE T -- SO 3683 02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:29,400 WE WERE ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT A 3684 02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:31,720 DINOSAUR PROGRAM AND TRYING TO 3685 02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:32,320 FIGURE OUT HOW TO INFORM THE 3686 02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:32,760 NEXT PROGRAM. 3687 02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,600 SO WHAT WE DID LOOK AT IS WE SAW 3688 02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:36,760 THE TRANSITION FROM THE R TO THE 3689 02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:38,800 T IS ACTUALLY GREAT NEWS BECAUSE 3690 02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:40,440 AT SOME LEVEL, THIS IS ABOUT THE 3691 02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:41,640 STUDENTS, AND THE STUDENT 3692 02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:43,280 SUPPORT NOW IS SO MUCH BETTER. 3693 02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:44,840 IT'S MUCH MORE EQUITABLE BECAUSE 3694 02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:46,280 IT USED TO BE THAT IF YOU WERE 3695 02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:48,320 IN THE BRIDGES PROGRAM AND YOU 3696 02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:49,320 WERE A COMMUNITY COLLEGE 3697 02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:50,640 STUDENT, YOU COULD BE WORKING 3698 02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:53,680 SIDE BY SIDE WITH SOMEBODY WHO 3699 02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:54,360 MIGHT BE IN A PROGRAM THAT'S 3700 02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,000 KIND OF FUNDED AT A STIPEND 3701 02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:58,280 LEVEL AND GETTING PAID 3702 02:05:58,280 --> 02:05:59,640 COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY FROM 3703 02:05:59,640 --> 02:05:59,840 THEM. 3704 02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:02,400 SO WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS A GREAT 3705 02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:02,800 THING TO DO. 3706 02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:04,760 IT USED TO BE THAT STUDENTS WERE 3707 02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:06,040 PAID ONLY IF THEY SHOWED UP TO 3708 02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:07,640 DO THE WORK IN THE RESEARCH LAB, 3709 02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:09,160 THEY COULD GET ABOUT 20 HOURS A 3710 02:06:09,160 --> 02:06:10,680 WEEK DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR AND 3711 02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:11,960 40 HOURS A WEEK IN THE SUMMER, 3712 02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:13,680 BUT NOW THEY HAVE A STIPEND 3713 02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:17,520 THAT'S NRSA LEVEL, THAT INCLUDES 3714 02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:19,160 LIVING EXPENSE, HEALTH 3715 02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:20,480 INSURANCE, TUITION REMISSION, 3716 02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:21,800 WHICH IS VERY, VERY GOOD. 3717 02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:23,560 SO WE FELT LIKE BETTER STUDENT 3718 02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:25,280 SUPPORT IS A VERY POSITIVE 3719 02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:28,640 OUTCOME OF THIS TRANSITION. 3720 02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:30,000 THEN IT GETS A LITTLE 3721 02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:30,960 COMPLICATED BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS 3722 02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:32,880 BY GOING FROM AN R TO A T, THERE 3723 02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:36,440 ARE BUDGET MECHANISM DIFFERENCES 3724 02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:41,160 THAT ARE STRUCTURALLY DIFFERENT. 3725 02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:42,920 SO IT USED TO BE UNDER THE R 3726 02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:45,320 MECHANISM YOU COULD GET 300K 3727 02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:47,160 DIRECT COSTS PER YEAR, THAT WAS 3728 02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:47,400 A CAP. 3729 02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:48,960 AND THE BUDGET MECHANISM WAS 3730 02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:50,040 RELATIVELY FLEXIBLE. 3731 02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:51,160 STUDENTS ARE PAID HOURLY, SO 3732 02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:53,640 THEY WERE PAID OUT OF THAT 300K 3733 02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:57,840 AS WELL AS TRAINING-RO-RELATED 3734 02:06:57,840 --> 02:06:58,800 EXPENSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 3735 02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,480 I THINK THE R25 MECHANISM 3736 02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:04,000 EXPLICITLY ALLOWED PEER 3737 02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:06,400 MENTORSHIP SUPPLEMENTAL COURSE 3738 02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:07,840 INSTRUCTORS, WHICH THEN PEOPLE 3739 02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:09,040 TENDED TO PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE 3740 02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:12,840 IT WAS ALLOWABLE. 3741 02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:14,640 UNDER THE T SUPPORT, THE AMOUNT 3742 02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:15,960 OF MONEY PEOPLE GET NOW IS 3743 02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:17,360 RELATED TO THE NUMBER OF SLOTS 3744 02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:18,440 BECAUSE STUDENTS ARE BEING PAID 3745 02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:18,880 A STIPEND. 3746 02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:20,440 AND THAT'S GOOD, THERE'S NO 3747 02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:21,760 OVERALL BUDGET CAP, SO YOU CAN 3748 02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:24,520 GROW A LARGER PROGRAM, MY GUESS 3749 02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:25,920 IS, IF YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL, BUT 3750 02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:28,320 THERE IS A CAP, THOUGH, OF 3751 02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:29,000 TRAINING-RELATED EXPENSES, SO 3752 02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:30,520 THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THE 3753 02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:32,160 STIPEND THAT COMES TO 10K A 3754 02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:35,360 TRAINEE, UP TO 100,000K IN 3755 02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:36,000 DIRECT COSTS. 3756 02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:37,680 SO KIND OF DRAWING FROM THE 3757 02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:39,080 WORKING GROUP AND WHAT THEY KNEW 3758 02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:41,400 ABOUT THE B2B PROGRAM GOING ON 3759 02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:43,320 RIGHT NOW, THERE WERE A COUPLE 3760 02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:44,120 RECOMMENDATIONS WE WANTED TO 3761 02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:47,000 MAKE THAT WERE RELATED TO THESE 3762 02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:49,440 BUDGET STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT 3763 02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:50,520 WE THOUGHT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. 3764 02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:52,520 WE FELT LIKE BECAUSE THESE 3765 02:07:52,520 --> 02:07:53,440 TRAINING-RELATED EXPENSES ARE 3766 02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:56,200 NOW CAPPED, THEY ALSO SCALE WITH 3767 02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:59,040 THE SIZE OF THE NUMBER OF SLOTS 3768 02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:02,680 THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING GIVEN, 3769 02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:07,040 THERE ARE TEUMLY ACTUALLY TWO . 3770 02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:08,560 ONE IS THERE WAS NO LONGER THIS 3771 02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:11,320 IDEA YOU COULD PAY PEER MENTORS 3772 02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:12,760 AND SUPPLEMENTAL COURSE 3773 02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:14,080 INSTRUCTORS WHICH IS ACTUALLY 3774 02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:15,280 STILL ALLOWABLE, THAT THIS NEED 3775 02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:17,120 TO BE BETTER COMMUNICATED TO 3776 02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:18,200 GRANT APPLICANTS BECAUSE IT 3777 02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:20,640 SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS SOME LEVEL 3778 02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:22,200 OF CONFUSION OF WHAT COULD BE 3779 02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:24,480 USED AND WHAT COULD NO LONGER BE 3780 02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:24,920 USED. 3781 02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:26,840 AND SO THAT WAS THIS IDEA THAT 3782 02:08:26,840 --> 02:08:29,000 WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE BETTER 3783 02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:30,000 WITH GRANT APPLICANTS. 3784 02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:32,280 WE ALSO FELT LIKE BECAUSE 3785 02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:34,160 TRAINING-RELATED EXPENSES NOW 3786 02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:35,600 SCALE WITH THE NUMBER OF SLOTS 3787 02:08:35,600 --> 02:08:36,920 THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE EFFICIENT 3788 02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:40,840 ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AS 3789 02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:41,840 TRAINING-RELATED MECHANISMS, AND 3790 02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:43,680 THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO 3791 02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:45,440 IDENTIFY BEST PRACTICES FROM 3792 02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:47,760 SUCCESSFUL B2B PROGRAMS AND 3793 02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:50,480 MAYBE COMMUNICATE THESE KIND OF 3794 02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:51,680 BEST PRACTICES TO APPLICANTS. 3795 02:08:51,680 --> 02:08:55,520 THERE WAS ALSO A CONCERN IN THE 3796 02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:56,840 WORKING GROUP THAT BECAUSE OF 3797 02:08:56,840 --> 02:08:58,760 THE BETTER STUDENT SUPPORT, IT 3798 02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:00,960 IS A ZERO SUM GAME, WE CAN'T 3799 02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:02,800 PRINT MONEY, THE NUMBER OF SLOTS 3800 02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:05,520 PER PROGRAM SEEMS TO BE GOING 3801 02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:09,160 DOWN IN THE T VERSUS THE R. 3802 02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:12,240 AND SO THE COMMITTEE WAS WORRIED 3803 02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:13,200 ABOUT WHETHER VERY SMALL 3804 02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:14,440 PROGRAMS MIGHT BE BELOW A 3805 02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:16,880 CRITICAL MASS FOR SUCCESS, AND 3806 02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:19,440 WOULD ENCOURAGE THE NIH TO 3807 02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,400 RECOMMEND ANALYZING PROGRAM SIZE 3808 02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:25,120 EFFECTS UNDER THE T MECHANISM, 3809 02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:26,120 PROBABLY SOONER RATHER THAN 3810 02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:27,520 LATER, BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED 3811 02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:30,080 ABOUT VERY, VERY SMALL PROGRAMS 3812 02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:33,560 AND THEIR IMPACTS. 3813 02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:34,360 AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT I 3814 02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:35,640 WANT TO BRING UP HERE WITH THE T 3815 02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:40,160 TO THE R IS THE WORKING GROUP IS 3816 02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:40,840 VERY, VERY PLEASED TO HEAR THAT 3817 02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:42,040 THERE ARE POSITIVE DATA 3818 02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:42,480 REPORTING CHANGES. 3819 02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:43,480 PART OF THE REASON IT WAS HARD 3820 02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:45,360 FOR US TO COME TO SOME OF THESE 3821 02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:46,640 CONCLUSIONS THAT WE WANTED TO 3822 02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:51,280 LOOK AT IS BECAUSE IN THE R25 3823 02:09:51,280 --> 02:09:56,080 MECHANISM, ONLY NEW AND 3824 02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:58,040 COMPETING PROGRAMS WERE REQUIRED 3825 02:09:58,040 --> 02:09:59,920 TO FIGURE OUT -- FILL OUT THIS 3826 02:09:59,920 --> 02:10:00,880 TABLE 8D WHICH TRACKED ALL OF 3827 02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:02,760 THE TRAINEES, WHICH IS WHY THERE 3828 02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:04,080 WAS NO STUDENT LEVEL DATA FOR 3829 02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:05,480 SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT PAM 3830 02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:08,760 POINTED OUT. 3831 02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:10,320 TO FILL OUT THAT TABLE, IT WAS 3832 02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:11,320 ONLY RECOMMENDED FOR PROGRESS 3833 02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:11,760 REPORTS. 3834 02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:13,600 THERE WAS ALSO SWITCHING IN THE 3835 02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:16,120 SOFTWARE THAT'S USED TO ATTRACT 3836 02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:16,800 THESE STUDENTS WHICH WOULD MAKE 3837 02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:17,480 IT BETTER. 3838 02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:19,800 UNDER THE T M MECHANISM, YOU'RE 3839 02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,560 NOW REQUIRED TO GIVE THE 3840 02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:22,760 INFORMATION ABOUT STUDENT 3841 02:10:22,760 --> 02:10:25,080 OUTCOMES, WHICH IS GREAT. 3842 02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:26,640 AND THERE'S NOW NEW SOFTWARE 3843 02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:28,480 THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER AND 3844 02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:30,400 STUDENT NOW ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO 3845 02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:34,760 HAVE AN ORCID I DID SO -- I'M 3846 02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:36,960 SORRY, I'M POINTER-INCOMPETENT. 3847 02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:39,360 HERE SO THAT WE CAN NOW TRACK 3848 02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:40,040 THEM BETTER. 3849 02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:41,560 SO WE THINK THAT THIS JOB THAT 3850 02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:42,880 WE WERE ASKED TO DO WILL BE A 3851 02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:46,400 LOT EASIER THE NEXT TIME AROUND. 3852 02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:47,920 WE'RE VERY HAPPY THERE'S THESE 3853 02:10:47,920 --> 02:10:49,360 NEW REPORTING REQUIREMENTS SO WE 3854 02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:50,560 RECOMMEND YOU USE THIS NEW DATA 3855 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:51,640 TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE THINGS 3856 02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:53,640 THAT WE TRIED TO ASK THAT 3857 02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:54,600 APPARENTLY WE DISCOVERED ONCE WE 3858 02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:57,120 WERE WRAPPING UP OUR 3859 02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:59,720 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE 3860 02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:01,160 PREVIOUS EVALUATION HAD TRIED TO 3861 02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:03,600 ASK A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS 3862 02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:05,240 TOO, AND THIS DATA IS JUST VERY 3863 02:11:05,240 --> 02:11:06,560 HARD TO GET WITH THE OLD 3864 02:11:06,560 --> 02:11:07,000 MECHANISM. 3865 02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,200 SO WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO A NEW 3866 02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:10,480 EVALUATION SOONER RATHER THAN 3867 02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:10,680 LATER. 3868 02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:12,120 AND SO I'LL PASS THIS BACK TO 3869 02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:19,560 PAM. 3870 02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:21,560 >>SO OVERALL THEN FOR OUR 3871 02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:24,600 WORKING GROUP FINDINGS, THERE'S 3872 02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:28,800 A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP, BUT WE 3873 02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:31,640 REALLY WANTED TO SAY THAT WE 3874 02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:33,200 THINK THE BRIDGES TO THE 3875 02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:34,400 BACCALAUREATE PROGRAM IS 3876 02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:36,360 SUCCESSFUL AND SHOULD BE 3877 02:11:36,360 --> 02:11:36,640 CONTINUED. 3878 02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:37,840 WE HAVE SOME EXPLICIT 3879 02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:41,640 SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS, 3880 02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:42,840 AND BASICALLY WE WANT TO FIND 3881 02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:44,560 OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN PROBABLY 3882 02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:45,960 FROM THE QUALITATIVE STUDIES 3883 02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:49,640 FROM THE R25. 3884 02:11:49,640 --> 02:11:51,680 IN SOME WAYS IT'S A REALLY RICH 3885 02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:52,640 DATASET, AND IT WOULD BE 3886 02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,720 WONDERFUL TO FIND OUT WHAT KINDS 3887 02:11:54,720 --> 02:11:56,840 OF BEST PRACTICES CAN BE 3888 02:11:56,840 --> 02:11:59,360 OBTAINED THERE. 3889 02:11:59,360 --> 02:12:03,200 WE TALK ED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER 3890 02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:05,840 IN THE SESSION ABOUT WAYS THAT 3891 02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:08,560 NIGMS IS COMMUNICATING, AND WE 3892 02:12:08,560 --> 02:12:10,000 WANTED TO MAKE THIS MORE 3893 02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:12,720 EXPLICIT FOR THIS PARTICULAR 3894 02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:14,440 PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S 3895 02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:14,920 COMPLICATED. 3896 02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:17,280 TO HAVE PARTNER PROGRAM, PARTNER 3897 02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:18,160 INSTITUTIONS WORKING TOGETHER IS 3898 02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:19,960 PERHAPS MORE CHALLENGING THAN 3899 02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:23,440 SOME OF THE OTHER KINDS OF 3900 02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:25,200 BUREAUCRACIES THAT WE ALL DEAL 3901 02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:26,040 WITH. 3902 02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:30,040 AND THEN LASTLY, WE REALLY 3903 02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:33,200 WANTED TO EXPLICITLY INDICATE 3904 02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:35,480 THAT WE WANT TO ENHANCE 3905 02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:37,040 DIVERSITY IN BIOMEDICAL 3906 02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:40,200 WORKFORCE AND COLLEC COLLECT THA 3907 02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:41,680 ON THE STEM DEGREES EARNED AND 3908 02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:43,320 THE OUTCOME AFTER GRADUATION. 3909 02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:45,440 ANOTHER ASPECT, AND THIS HAS NOT 3910 02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:48,240 BEEN REALLY DEALT WITH 3911 02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:52,760 PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE HAD 3912 02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:54,080 DR. SUZANNE BARBOUR WAS VERY 3913 02:12:54,080 --> 02:12:59,840 INVOLVED IN A SKILLED TECHNICAL 3914 02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:01,520 WORKFORCE EVALUATION VIA NSF, 3915 02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:04,160 AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSITION 3916 02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:07,440 HAPPENING IN THE BIOMEDICAL 3917 02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:09,400 EXTERNAL FIELD, AND THAT THERE 3918 02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:11,720 IS NOW A NEED FOR COMMUNITY 3919 02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:13,120 COLLEGE PREPARED EMPLOYEES, AND 3920 02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:16,520 IT'S SORT OF OUR CAUTION TO 3921 02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:18,520 ENSURE THAT THOSE STUDENT MAY BE 3922 02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:21,800 ABLE TO GO DIRECTLY -- COMMUNITY 3923 02:13:21,800 --> 02:13:23,240 COLLEGE STUDENTS AFTER GETTING 3924 02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:24,120 THEIR ASSOCIATE'S DEGREES MAYBE 3925 02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:27,360 COULD GO DIRECTLY INTO INDUSTRY. 3926 02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:30,200 HOWEVER, IT'S IMPORTANT IN MY 3927 02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:33,360 VIEW AND THAT OF THE WORKFORCE 3928 02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:35,320 THAT THESE DEGREES BE ONES THAT 3929 02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:37,560 COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY BE 3930 02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:39,000 TRANSFERRED TO A FOUR-YEAR 3931 02:13:39,000 --> 02:13:39,600 INSTITUTION, BECAUSE SOMETIMES 3932 02:13:39,600 --> 02:13:41,320 YOU HAVE SORT OF A DEAD END AND 3933 02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:42,720 THERE'S SOME MECHANISMS THAT ARE 3934 02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:45,680 BUILT IN THAT YOU CAN'T GET TO 3935 02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:47,080 THE FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION. 3936 02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:47,720 ONE OF THE REALLY GOOD THINGS 3937 02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:49,000 ABOUT THAT WOULD BE THAT 3938 02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:52,040 STUDENTS MIGHT BE PAID BY THEIR 3939 02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:53,840 EMPLOYER THEN TO GO TO A 3940 02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:54,560 FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION, SO THAT 3941 02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:56,120 WOULD TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE 3942 02:13:56,120 --> 02:13:56,760 FUNDING ISSUES. 3943 02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:58,840 WE FELT THAT THIS IS SORT OF 3944 02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:01,080 BEYOND OUR SCOPE, BUT FELT THAT 3945 02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:05,360 IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO 3946 02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:07,720 HAVE NIGMS AND TWD CONSIDER 3947 02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:09,320 WHETHER OR NOT THERE MIGHTING 3948 02:14:09,320 --> 02:14:11,520 SOME AVENUES FOR THIS IN THE 3949 02:14:11,520 --> 02:14:11,760 FUTURE. 3950 02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:12,320 THANK YOU. 3951 02:14:12,320 --> 02:14:15,040 OH, SORRY. 3952 02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:18,600 MY BIG THANK YOU, OUR BIG THANK 3953 02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,800 YOU IS TO DEMA, THE DIVISION OF 3954 02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:23,880 DATA INTEGRATION MODELING AND 3955 02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:27,680 ANALYTICS, THE THREE INDIVIDUALS 3956 02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:29,000 ON THE LEFT WHO WE'RE TOLD HAD 3957 02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:30,960 DONE A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING 3958 02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:32,760 AND THEN THE FOLKS ON THE RIGHT 3959 02:14:32,760 --> 02:14:36,600 WERE THE ONES THAT WERE OUR 3960 02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:40,400 INTERFACE AND CAN'T EXPRESS 3961 02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:42,960 ENOUGH, THEY JUST REALLY DID -- 3962 02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:44,160 WE PUSHED THEM HARD AND THEY 3963 02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:46,680 GAVE US A TON OF DATA. 3964 02:14:46,680 --> 02:14:48,440 SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. 3965 02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:50,640 THANK YOU. 3966 02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:55,600 >>THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE 3967 02:14:55,600 --> 02:14:57,120 EVALUATION TEAM, REALLY TERRIFIC 3968 02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:57,560 WORK. 3969 02:14:57,560 --> 02:14:59,400 I'LL ASK PAM TO GO BACK TO HER 3970 02:14:59,400 --> 02:15:01,280 SEAT AND LINDA TO JOIN US AT THE 3971 02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:02,480 TABLE TO MAKE IT EASY TO ASK 3972 02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:02,960 QUESTIONS. 3973 02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:03,920 BUT THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR 3974 02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:08,720 QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. 3975 02:15:08,720 --> 02:15:08,920 TERRI. 3976 02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:09,360 >>IT'S WONDERFUL. 3977 02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:10,760 I HAVE TO SAY, COMMUNITY 3978 02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:11,400 COLLEGES ARE SO IMPORTANT. 3979 02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:13,480 I HAD A COMMUNITY COLLEGE 3980 02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:14,920 TRANSFER STUDENT TO MY LAB AT 3981 02:15:14,920 --> 02:15:16,240 RUTGERS THAT PUBLISHED A FIRST 3982 02:15:16,240 --> 02:15:17,320 AUTHOR PAPER IN THE PROCEEDINGS 3983 02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:18,360 OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY. 3984 02:15:18,360 --> 02:15:19,760 THERE ARE GREAT STUDENTS THERE. 3985 02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:20,960 TWO POINTS IN THE ANALYSIS. 3986 02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:22,960 ONE IS THAT COMMUNITY COLLEGES 3987 02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:25,680 TOOK A MASSIVE HIT IN THEIR 3988 02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:26,840 ENROLLMENT IN THE EARLY STAGES 3989 02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:27,280 OF COVID. 3990 02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:30,880 IT WAS ABOUT A 10% DROP, AND SO 3991 02:15:30,880 --> 02:15:32,240 THE NEXT TIME YOU LOOK AT THE 3992 02:15:32,240 --> 02:15:33,400 DATA, THAT'S PROBABLY -- WE 3993 02:15:33,400 --> 02:15:35,280 SHOULD BE MINDFUL THAT THAT IS 3994 02:15:35,280 --> 02:15:37,040 AN EXPLICIT COVID IMPACT THAT WE 3995 02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:37,280 KNOW. 3996 02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:39,600 AND THEN THE SECOND ONE THAT I 3997 02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:41,560 THINK IS REALLY INTERESTING AS 3998 02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:43,520 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIVERSIFYING 3999 02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:45,080 THE WORKFORCE IS THE MAJOR GAP 4000 02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:46,920 IN GRADUATION RATES AT MANY 4001 02:15:46,920 --> 02:15:50,040 INSTITUTIONS BASED ON RACE. 4002 02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:51,240 AND THEY TEND -- THOSE 4003 02:15:51,240 --> 02:15:52,440 DIFFERENCES TEND TO NOT BE AS 4004 02:15:52,440 --> 02:15:54,520 LARGE FOR TRANSFER STUDENTS AT 4005 02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:56,280 MANY INSTITUTIONS, AND I THINK 4006 02:15:56,280 --> 02:15:57,400 LOOKING AT THAT, IF THERE'S A 4007 02:15:57,400 --> 02:15:59,560 WAY TO LOOK AT THAT EXPLICITLY, 4008 02:15:59,560 --> 02:16:00,840 IF YOU'RE SEEING NOT JUST THIS 4009 02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:02,240 INCREASE, BUT IF YOU'RE ALSO 4010 02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:03,520 SEEING IT IN TERMS OF MINDING 4011 02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:05,640 THAT GAP THAT WE SEE COULD BE 4012 02:16:05,640 --> 02:16:06,720 ALSO ANOTHER REALLY MAJOR 4013 02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:07,640 IMPACT. 4014 02:16:07,640 --> 02:16:09,360 >>SO YOU'RE SAYING THE GAP IS 4015 02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:11,360 LESS FOR TRANSFER STUDENTS THAN 4016 02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:12,840 FOR NON-TRANSFER STUDENTS? 4017 02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:14,640 >>I CAN -- I KNOW OF ONE 4018 02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:15,520 EXAMPLE IN PARTICULAR, JUST 4019 02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:17,080 BECAUSE I WAS AT THAT 4020 02:16:17,080 --> 02:16:18,400 INSTITUTION, BUT IT IS TRUE THAT 4021 02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:20,040 IF WE CAN GET THE STUDENTS TO 4022 02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:22,120 THE FOUR-YEAR COLLEGE, THEY DO 4023 02:16:22,120 --> 02:16:23,600 TEND TO PERFORM HIGHER AND THERE 4024 02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:24,880 DOES SEEM FOR MANY INSTITUTIONS 4025 02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:29,160 TO BE LESS OF A GAP FOR TRANSFER 4026 02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:30,480 STUDENTS BECAUSE THEY'VE SORT OF 4027 02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:32,600 BEEN VETTED THROUGH A VERY 4028 02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:33,880 DIFFICULT PATH THIS SIX TO EIGHT 4029 02:16:33,880 --> 02:16:35,640 YEARS, AND WE KNOW THAT TRANSFER 4030 02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:36,920 STUDENTS OFTEN END UP TAKING 4031 02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:38,720 MORE CREDIT HOURS THAN STUDENTS 4032 02:16:38,720 --> 02:16:40,920 THAT GO DIRECTLY INTO A 4033 02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:42,880 FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION BECAUSE OF 4034 02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:44,680 THE ARCHAIC WAY THAT WE DO 4035 02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:47,200 TRANSFERS BETWEEN INSTITUTIONS, 4036 02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:48,760 AND SO THESE ARE HIGHLY 4037 02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:49,200 MOTIVATED STUDENTS. 4038 02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:53,320 >>LINDA, DO YOU WANT TO -- 4039 02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:55,120 >>I WAS GOING TO SAY ONE OF THE 4040 02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:58,240 FACTORS WE DID LOOK AT ONCE THEY 4041 02:16:58,240 --> 02:16:59,080 TRANSFERRED, WAS THERE ANY 4042 02:16:59,080 --> 02:16:59,840 DIFFERENCES IN COMPLETION BY 4043 02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:00,400 RACE? 4044 02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:01,600 THERE WASN'T ANY, IT'S JUST THAT 4045 02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:04,120 THE DATA WERE ALSO NOISY SO WE 4046 02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:05,560 DIDN'T ACTUALLY SHOW THAT DATA, 4047 02:17:05,560 --> 02:17:06,680 BUT I THINK THAT SUPPORTS 4048 02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:10,080 EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 4049 02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:14,760 >>THE OTHER ASPECT WAS THAT IN 4050 02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:17,400 THE PROGRAMS, THEY WERE ACTUALLY 4051 02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:19,720 ASKED TO SHOW THAT THEY HAD 4052 02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:20,960 ARTICULATION AGREEMENTS, AND IN 4053 02:17:20,960 --> 02:17:22,240 THE T34, THEY'RE ACTUALLY 4054 02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:24,000 SUPPOSED TO ATTACH THOSE 4055 02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:24,280 AGREEMENTS. 4056 02:17:24,280 --> 02:17:27,000 SO I'M THINKING THAT BECAUSE, 4057 02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:30,720 YES, THE ISSUE OF TOO MANY UNITS 4058 02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:32,600 BEING TRANSFERRED IS A HUGE ONE. 4059 02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:35,080 >>NICE ANALYSIS. 4060 02:17:35,080 --> 02:17:36,160 THE OVERARCHING GOAL AS WAS 4061 02:17:36,160 --> 02:17:37,400 SHOWN ON ONE OF THE EARLIER 4062 02:17:37,400 --> 02:17:39,840 SLIDES WAS TO ENHANCE DIVERSITY 4063 02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:43,440 OF BIOMEDICAL WORKFORCE, AND SO 4064 02:17:43,440 --> 02:17:46,400 WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT KID 4065 02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:47,920 GOING INTO COMMUNITY COLLEGES 4066 02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:49,800 ARE FROM LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC 4067 02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:51,160 BACKGROUNDS, SO DURING THE 4068 02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:53,040 ANALYSIS, I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE 4069 02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:56,280 SORT OF A BREAKDOWN ON 4070 02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:57,720 DIVERSITY, AND IF THAT GOAL WAS 4071 02:17:57,720 --> 02:18:00,320 MET BY THE END AND MAYBE YOU 4072 02:18:00,320 --> 02:18:01,440 COULD COMMENT ON HOW THAT CAME 4073 02:18:01,440 --> 02:18:05,040 UP. 4074 02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:06,840 >>SO IT WAS A DIVERSE POOL OF 4075 02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:08,240 STUDENTS THAT WE LOOKED AT, BOTH 4076 02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:11,960 BY RACE AND ETHNICITY. 4077 02:18:11,960 --> 02:18:13,280 THOSE THAT -- THERE WAS SOME 4078 02:18:13,280 --> 02:18:14,480 VARIATION DURING THAT TIME 4079 02:18:14,480 --> 02:18:18,000 PERIOD IN TERMS OF AGAIN 4080 02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:18,840 SELF-REPORTING FROM THE 4081 02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:19,120 STUDENTS. 4082 02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:20,880 SOMETIMES THE CATEGORY OF WHITE 4083 02:18:20,880 --> 02:18:25,360 AND UNKNOWN WERE VERY HIGH, OFF 4084 02:18:25,360 --> 02:18:26,920 THE CHARTS, AND WHEN THAT SORT 4085 02:18:26,920 --> 02:18:28,640 OF WENT AWAY, IT TURNED OUT THAT 4086 02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:30,960 MANY OF THOSE FOLKS ENDED UP 4087 02:18:30,960 --> 02:18:32,280 BEING IN THE HISPANIC STUDENTS, 4088 02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:37,640 SO ACTUALLY THE -- ALL OF THE 4089 02:18:37,640 --> 02:18:40,080 POPULATIONS ARE WELL REPRESENTED 4090 02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:43,120 IN TERMS OF THE ANALYSES, AND AS 4091 02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:45,040 LINDA POINTED OUT, THERE WERE NO 4092 02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:46,680 DIFFERENCES IN THEIR ABILITY TO 4093 02:18:46,680 --> 02:18:48,240 TRANSFER OR COMPLETE. 4094 02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:51,400 SO THE PROGRAM SEEMS TO BOTH 4095 02:18:51,400 --> 02:18:52,720 ENCOURAGE THE RECRUITMENT OF 4096 02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:55,120 STUDENTS THAT ARE DIVERSE AND 4097 02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:56,560 THEN ONCE THOSE STUDENTS ARE 4098 02:18:56,560 --> 02:18:59,080 THERE, THEY DO QUITE WELL. 4099 02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:01,520 WITHIN THAT PROGRAM. 4100 02:19:01,520 --> 02:19:03,720 AGAIN, THE DATA WASN'T REALLY 4101 02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:05,360 VERY CLEAN. 4102 02:19:05,360 --> 02:19:07,360 BUT AT LEAST IN TERMS OF 4103 02:19:07,360 --> 02:19:09,440 REPRESENTATION, THE 4104 02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:11,200 REPRESENTATION WAS QUITE GOOD, 4105 02:19:11,200 --> 02:19:15,560 PARTICULARLY WITH REGARDS TO 4106 02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:19,400 HISPANIC, BLACK, AND ASIAN 4107 02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:21,080 AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDERS, 4108 02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:21,720 NATIVE AMERICANS. 4109 02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:24,240 A LITTLE BIT LESS SO THAN NATIVE 4110 02:19:24,240 --> 02:19:27,960 AMERICANS. 4111 02:19:27,960 --> 02:19:28,400 >>BRENT. 4112 02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:30,840 >>FANTASTIC ANALYSIS, AND 4113 02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:32,160 YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THIS 4114 02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:34,760 PROGRAM OCCUPIES AN ABSOLUTELY 4115 02:19:34,760 --> 02:19:36,840 CRITICAL SPACE FOR HELPING TO 4116 02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:38,080 DEVELOP THE WORKFORCE. 4117 02:19:38,080 --> 02:19:40,200 I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND IS 4118 02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:43,600 THERE ANY ARTICULATED AGREEMENTS 4119 02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:45,160 INVOLVING ADMISSION WITH THIS 4120 02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:47,240 PROGRAM FROM THE TWO-YEAR TO THE 4121 02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:49,640 FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION? 4122 02:19:49,640 --> 02:19:51,520 IN OTHER WORDS, IF A STUDENT IS 4123 02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:52,720 ENROLLED, DO THEY HAVE A 4124 02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:54,880 DIFFERENT PATH TO ADMISSION TO, 4125 02:19:54,880 --> 02:19:57,120 FOR EXAMPLE, COMPETITIVE MAJORS, 4126 02:19:57,120 --> 02:19:58,760 WHICH ARE STEM MAJORS? 4127 02:19:58,760 --> 02:20:00,080 >>THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING 4128 02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:02,040 THAT I WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT. 4129 02:20:02,040 --> 02:20:05,240 ALL I KNOW IS THAT INITIALLY 4130 02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:08,880 THEY WERE ENCOURAGED TO HAVE 4131 02:20:08,880 --> 02:20:10,520 ARTICULATION AGREEMENTS. 4132 02:20:10,520 --> 02:20:12,360 COMING IN BLINDLY, I WAS 4133 02:20:12,360 --> 02:20:13,400 ANTICIPATING THAT IT WAS BEING 4134 02:20:13,400 --> 02:20:15,560 DONE ON AN INSTITUTION TO 4135 02:20:15,560 --> 02:20:17,360 INSTITUTION BASIS AS OPPOSED TO 4136 02:20:17,360 --> 02:20:18,120 PROGRAMMATICALLY, BUT I DON'T 4137 02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:19,760 ACTUALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO 4138 02:20:19,760 --> 02:20:19,960 THAT. 4139 02:20:19,960 --> 02:20:22,080 >>ALISON, DO YOU WANT TO JUMP 4140 02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:23,000 IN? 4141 02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:25,280 >>WE DON'T PUT ANYTHING 4142 02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:26,480 EXPLICITLY ON THE FUNDING 4143 02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:27,680 ANNOUNCEMENT THAT REQUIRES THAT. 4144 02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:29,720 IT'S PARTLY BECAUSE THERE ARE 4145 02:20:29,720 --> 02:20:30,800 COMPLEX PARTNERSHIPS, SO IT 4146 02:20:30,800 --> 02:20:32,320 COULD BE THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 4147 02:20:32,320 --> 02:20:35,520 BEING THE MAIN GRANT HOLDER WITH 4148 02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:36,840 SEVERAL FOUR-YEAR COLLEGES OR IT 4149 02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:38,360 CAN GO THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 4150 02:20:38,360 --> 02:20:42,120 SO IT REALLY IS 4151 02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:43,920 CONTEXT-SPECIFIC, AND WE DO 4152 02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:46,320 OBVIOUSLY PUSH NOW FOR THE 4153 02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:47,720 ARTICULATION AGREEMENTS TO 4154 02:20:47,720 --> 02:20:49,920 SPECIFICALLY THINK ABOUT THINGS 4155 02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:52,560 LIKE TIME TO DEGREE, BUT IT AN 4156 02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:53,360 INTERESTING POINT ABOUT 4157 02:20:53,360 --> 02:20:53,840 ADMISSIONS. 4158 02:20:53,840 --> 02:20:56,480 WE CERTAINLY PUT LANGUAGE IN OUR 4159 02:20:56,480 --> 02:20:58,480 FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENTS AROUND 4160 02:20:58,480 --> 02:21:00,480 TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR 4161 02:21:00,480 --> 02:21:02,600 ADMISSIONS PROCESSES ARE FAIR 4162 02:21:02,600 --> 02:21:05,880 AND TAKE IN A BROAD RANGE OF 4163 02:21:05,880 --> 02:21:07,200 CONSIDERATIONS BEYOND JUST 4164 02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:09,720 GRADES AND TEST SCORES, BUT IT'S 4165 02:21:09,720 --> 02:21:11,360 SOMETHING WE'LL THINK ABOUT FOR 4166 02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:13,160 THE BRIDGES FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENT 4167 02:21:13,160 --> 02:21:16,880 TO SEE IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE THE 4168 02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:19,040 PARTNERSHIPS TO PUT FORTH ANY 4169 02:21:19,040 --> 02:21:20,800 POLICIES THEY HAVE AROUND THIS. 4170 02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:22,800 >>I THINK IN PARTICULAR, 4171 02:21:22,800 --> 02:21:25,240 COMPUTER SCIENCE AND 4172 02:21:25,240 --> 02:21:27,400 ENGINEERING DEGREES, PROGRAM, 4173 02:21:27,400 --> 02:21:29,160 GENERALLY TAKE FEWER TRANSFER 4174 02:21:29,160 --> 02:21:30,480 STUDENTS BECAUSE OF THE 4175 02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:32,480 COMPETITIVENESS OF THE ON-CAMPUS 4176 02:21:32,480 --> 02:21:33,000 VERSIONS. 4177 02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:34,000 SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO 4178 02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:37,200 THINK ABOUT. 4179 02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:39,200 >>DANIELLE. 4180 02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:41,160 >>I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD 4181 02:21:41,160 --> 02:21:42,360 SAY MORE ABOUT THE CONTROL GROUP 4182 02:21:42,360 --> 02:21:44,040 USED IN THE ANALYSIS, SO THE 4183 02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:45,080 NATIONAL STUDENT CLEARINGHOUSE, 4184 02:21:45,080 --> 02:21:47,120 SHOULD I THINK OF THAT AS LIKE A 4185 02:21:47,120 --> 02:21:48,320 RANDOM SAMPLE OF PEOPLE IN 4186 02:21:48,320 --> 02:21:48,960 COMMUNITY COLLEGE? 4187 02:21:48,960 --> 02:21:50,400 AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, I 4188 02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:51,200 WOULDN'T NECESSARILY THINK OF 4189 02:21:51,200 --> 02:21:53,600 THE BRIDGES STUDENTS AS BEING A 4190 02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:54,920 RANDOM SAMPLE, LIKE YOU'D HAVE 4191 02:21:54,920 --> 02:21:56,360 TO APPLY AND SHOW AN INTEREST IN 4192 02:21:56,360 --> 02:21:56,840 THE PROGRAM. 4193 02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:58,440 AND SO IF YOU COULD JUST SAY 4194 02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:00,000 MORE ABOUT HOW THAT GAP WOULD 4195 02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:01,280 CHANGE, IF WE TRIED TO CONTROL 4196 02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:04,360 FOR SOMETHING. 4197 02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:06,680 SO THE IDEA BEING WHAT IF THE 4198 02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:08,880 BRIDGES STUDENTS ARE CREAM 4199 02:22:08,880 --> 02:22:10,120 SKIMMED, BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE 4200 02:22:10,120 --> 02:22:11,320 POOL, SO I THINK ANYTHING YOU 4201 02:22:11,320 --> 02:22:13,760 CAN DO TO KIND OF ADDRESS THAT 4202 02:22:13,760 --> 02:22:15,000 POTENTIAL CONCERN I THINK WILL 4203 02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:16,000 MAKE THE ANALYSIS STRONGER. 4204 02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:16,840 >>THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING 4205 02:22:16,840 --> 02:22:19,200 THAT THE WORKING GROUP WORRIED 4206 02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:19,600 ABOUT. 4207 02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:22,920 ARE WE ONLY ENHANCING THOSE WHO 4208 02:22:22,920 --> 02:22:28,120 ALREADY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, -- 4209 02:22:28,120 --> 02:22:29,360 >>I'M ASKING A SLIGHTLY 4210 02:22:29,360 --> 02:22:30,280 DIFFERENT QUESTION. 4211 02:22:30,280 --> 02:22:32,160 LIKE YOU COULD IMAGINE IF I WERE 4212 02:22:32,160 --> 02:22:33,440 TO BE CRITICAL OF THIS ANAL 4213 02:22:33,440 --> 02:22:34,640 CIRCLES I WOULD SAY MAYBE 4214 02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:37,120 THERE'S NOT A CAUSAL EFFECT, 4215 02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:39,080 THAT THESE STUDENTS ARE 4216 02:22:39,080 --> 02:22:40,640 MOTIVATED AND THEY WOULD HAVE 4217 02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:41,880 ENDED UP TRANSFERRING EVEN IN 4218 02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:42,640 THE ABSENCE OF THIS PROGRAM. 4219 02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:43,880 SO ARGUING FOR THAT EFFECT, I 4220 02:22:43,880 --> 02:22:46,920 THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO 4221 02:22:46,920 --> 02:22:47,520 COMPARE COMPARABLE STUDENTS AT 4222 02:22:47,520 --> 02:22:53,800 THE OUTSET. 4223 02:22:53,800 --> 02:22:55,200 >>WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 4224 02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:57,840 ONE OF THE ASPECTS PARTICULARLY 4225 02:22:57,840 --> 02:22:58,640 AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 4226 02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:02,000 PARTNER, WHICH IS SOLELY 1P.I., 4227 02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:03,320 TALKED ABOUT THE WAY THEY 4228 02:23:03,320 --> 02:23:05,560 RECRUITED, SO AGAIN, IT IS 4229 02:23:05,560 --> 02:23:06,440 SELF-MOTIVATED STUDENTS, THEY 4230 02:23:06,440 --> 02:23:07,840 WERE REACHING OUT TO ALL 4231 02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:10,800 STUDENTS SO IT WASN'T 4232 02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:17,000 PRESELECTED IN THAT WAY. 4233 02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:18,640 HOWEVER, AGAIN, THE HETEROJE 4234 02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:26,000 NATI -- THEHETEROGENEITY OF THES 4235 02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:28,720 CAN'T BE OVERSTATED. 4236 02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:30,640 ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES FROM A 4237 02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:31,520 FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION FELT HE 4238 02:23:31,520 --> 02:23:32,920 WAS GETTING STUDENTS TOWARD THE 4239 02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:34,240 END OF THEIR COMMUNITY COLLEGE 4240 02:23:34,240 --> 02:23:36,240 TIMING SO THAT THEY WERE -- YOU 4241 02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:38,040 KNOW, THEIR LAST SEMESTER AT 4242 02:23:38,040 --> 02:23:38,880 COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 4243 02:23:38,880 --> 02:23:41,040 SO HOW MUCH DID THIS PROGRAM 4244 02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:45,040 HELP THEM WHEN THEY HAD ALREADY 4245 02:23:45,040 --> 02:23:46,480 SORT OF GONE THROUGH ALL THE 4246 02:23:46,480 --> 02:23:47,120 HOOPS TOGETHER. 4247 02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:48,760 SO I'M NOT ANSWERING YOUR 4248 02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:49,640 QUESTION DIRECTLY. 4249 02:23:49,640 --> 02:23:52,280 I'M SUGGESTING THAT, ARE A, WE 4250 02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:56,240 DON'T KNOW, AND B, OUR SENSE WAS 4251 02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:59,400 THESE CAN BE MORE MOTIVATED 4252 02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:04,920 STUDENTS OR MORE AWARE STUDENTS 4253 02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:06,000 OR -- WAS THAT THE ANGLE YOU 4254 02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:06,440 WERE GOING FOR? 4255 02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:08,760 >>I JUST THINK DATA COLLECTION 4256 02:24:08,760 --> 02:24:10,160 GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF 4257 02:24:10,160 --> 02:24:11,640 EVALUATION TO GET YOUR INITIAL 4258 02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:12,960 GPA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN 4259 02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:13,720 YOUR FIRST YEAR OF COMMUNITY 4260 02:24:13,720 --> 02:24:15,840 COLLEGE AND TRY TO COMPARE THAT. 4261 02:24:15,840 --> 02:24:17,080 >>AND THERE WAS NO DATA 4262 02:24:17,080 --> 02:24:18,920 AVAILABLE FOR THAT. 4263 02:24:18,920 --> 02:24:23,080 LINDA, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? 4264 02:24:23,080 --> 02:24:24,440 >>I WAS GOING TO SAY, THERE 4265 02:24:24,440 --> 02:24:25,520 WERE SOME COMPARISONS THAT WERE 4266 02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:27,640 DONE WHERE, AGAIN, THESE AREN'T 4267 02:24:27,640 --> 02:24:29,320 PERFECT CONTROLS BUT LOOKING AT 4268 02:24:29,320 --> 02:24:32,400 INSTITUTIONAL BASELINES AS WELL. 4269 02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:34,520 SO COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS ACTUALLY 4270 02:24:34,520 --> 02:24:36,880 A WORD THAT DESCRIBES ALL KINDS 4271 02:24:36,880 --> 02:24:38,680 OF THINGS. 4272 02:24:38,680 --> 02:24:42,000 AND WHEN WE TRY TO LOOK THERE, 4273 02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:43,520 GIVEN THE SMALL AMOUNT OF DATA 4274 02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:46,440 THAT WE HAD, WE COULD SEE AN 4275 02:24:46,440 --> 02:24:46,680 IMPACT. 4276 02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:48,600 I GUESS THE FLIP SIDE, AND THIS 4277 02:24:48,600 --> 02:24:50,800 IS MY PERSONAL VIEW, IS THAT 4278 02:24:50,800 --> 02:24:52,520 THEY MIGHT BE DRAWING THE BEST 4279 02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:53,880 AND THE BRIGHTEST FROM THE 4280 02:24:53,880 --> 02:24:56,520 COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BUT IS THAT 4281 02:24:56,520 --> 02:24:57,840 REALLY -- SO YOU'RE SAYING THE 4282 02:24:57,840 --> 02:25:00,760 IMPACT IS SMALL, BUT IF WE 4283 02:25:00,760 --> 02:25:01,800 DIDN'T HAVE THIS SUPPORT SYSTEM 4284 02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:03,600 FOR THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST IN 4285 02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:04,640 THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, WOULDN'T 4286 02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:06,120 THAT BE A SHAME? 4287 02:25:06,120 --> 02:25:07,880 >>OH, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH 4288 02:25:07,880 --> 02:25:08,560 THAT. 4289 02:25:08,560 --> 02:25:09,880 I'M SIMPLY SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE 4290 02:25:09,880 --> 02:25:11,320 THAT EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF THE 4291 02:25:11,320 --> 02:25:12,000 PROGRAM, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE 4292 02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:14,160 WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING. 4293 02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:16,120 SO YOU'RE SORT OF TALKING ABOUT 4294 02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:18,080 WHICH STUDENTS WE TARGET, AND 4295 02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:20,240 I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THERE 4296 02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:21,840 BEING PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT SORT 4297 02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:23,400 OF STUDENTS ACROSS THE 4298 02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:24,640 DISTRIBUTION WITHIN COMMUNITY 4299 02:25:24,640 --> 02:25:24,880 COLLEGES. 4300 02:25:24,880 --> 02:25:26,200 THIS IS ABOUT THE CAUSAL EECT. 4301 02:25:26,200 --> 02:25:30,720 EFFECT.>>ABSOLUTELY, WE DID TAT 4302 02:25:30,720 --> 02:25:31,600 ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE GREAT TO 4303 02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:32,840 GO THROUGH AND FIND STUDENTS OF 4304 02:25:32,840 --> 02:25:35,040 THE SAME GPA AND CREATE A 4305 02:25:35,040 --> 02:25:36,720 CONTROL GROUP AND COMPARE THAT, 4306 02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:37,800 BUT WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT 4307 02:25:37,800 --> 02:25:38,760 KIND OF DATA. 4308 02:25:38,760 --> 02:25:41,320 >>AND ONE LAST KIND OF HOBBY 4309 02:25:41,320 --> 02:25:42,240 HORSE COMMENT, I THINK GIVEN 4310 02:25:42,240 --> 02:25:43,800 THAT WE ARE GIVING INSTITUTIONS 4311 02:25:43,800 --> 02:25:44,840 MONEY, I DON'T THINK IT'S 4312 02:25:44,840 --> 02:25:46,600 TERRIBLE FOR US TO HAVE DATA 4313 02:25:46,600 --> 02:25:49,000 REPORTING AS PART OF THE STRINGS 4314 02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:50,000 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT MONEY. 4315 02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:53,680 >>IF I MAY, IT WAS INTERESTING 4316 02:25:53,680 --> 02:25:58,680 THAT, AGAIN, THE KINDS OF 4317 02:25:58,680 --> 02:25:59,720 INSTITUTIONAL BACKBONE THAT 4318 02:25:59,720 --> 02:26:03,600 EXISTS IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 4319 02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:04,960 OFTEN IS NOT ORIENTED TOWARDS 4320 02:26:04,960 --> 02:26:06,160 THIS KIND OF A PROGRAM OR THIS 4321 02:26:06,160 --> 02:26:07,320 KIND OF ANALYSIS. 4322 02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:09,200 AND THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S THE 4323 02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:13,760 P.I. OFTEN IS, YOU KNOW, ASKS 4324 02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:16,160 THAT WE REFER TO AS CHIEF BOTTLE 4325 02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:17,360 WASHER BESIDES EVERYTHING ELSE. 4326 02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:18,800 THEY'RE THE INSTITUTIONAL 4327 02:26:18,800 --> 02:26:20,600 REPORTING MECHANISM, THEY DID 4328 02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:23,320 THE RECRUITING, THEY DO THE 4329 02:26:23,320 --> 02:26:25,040 RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE FOUR-YEAR 4330 02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:27,720 INSTITUTIONS. 4331 02:26:27,720 --> 02:26:30,280 SO THOSE OF US IN A FOUR-YEAR 4332 02:26:30,280 --> 02:26:35,720 INSTITUTION ACTUALLY FELT WE 4333 02:26:35,720 --> 02:26:36,680 WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 4334 02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:37,800 REPORTING BURDENS THAT WERE 4335 02:26:37,800 --> 02:26:38,720 BEING PLACED ON THE COMMUNITY 4336 02:26:38,720 --> 02:26:39,720 COLLEGE BECAUSE, AGAIN, IN TERMS 4337 02:26:39,720 --> 02:26:41,240 OF TRACKING, THAT'S WHERE THEY 4338 02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:43,720 START, IS IN THE COMMUNITY 4339 02:26:43,720 --> 02:26:46,960 COLLEGES, AND SOME OF THESE -- 4340 02:26:46,960 --> 02:26:50,360 SOME COMMUNITY COLLEGES DON'T 4341 02:26:50,360 --> 02:26:51,240 HAVE INSTITUTIONAL REVIEW 4342 02:26:51,240 --> 02:26:53,720 BOARDS, NOT THAT IT'S 4343 02:26:53,720 --> 02:26:54,600 NECESSARILY THAT YOU'D HAVE TO 4344 02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:58,000 GO THROUGH IT, BUT THERE'S -- 4345 02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:02,360 IT'S CLEARLY REALLY STRUCTURALLY 4346 02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:03,840 SITUATED IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 4347 02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:07,120 PERHAPS ANOTHER WAY TO SAY THIS 4348 02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:10,160 IS TO FACTOR IN WHAT KIND OF 4349 02:27:10,160 --> 02:27:11,720 DATA WE WANT FROM THEM AND 4350 02:27:11,720 --> 02:27:13,840 WHETHER OR NOT MAYBE -- 4351 02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:16,120 PARTICULARLY IF IT'S AT THE 4352 02:27:16,120 --> 02:27:17,360 COMMUNITY LEVEL, TO THINK ABOUT 4353 02:27:17,360 --> 02:27:20,560 HOW IT COULD BE FUNDED AS A 4354 02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:21,240 DISCRETE LINE. 4355 02:27:21,240 --> 02:27:27,240 >>MAYBE ONE MORE QUESTION. 4356 02:27:27,240 --> 02:27:27,440 PAOLA. 4357 02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:28,360 >>I LOVE THIS PROGRAM. 4358 02:27:28,360 --> 02:27:30,000 I WORK WITH STUDENTS FROM THIS 4359 02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:31,960 PROGRAM, AND I WENT TO COMMUNITY 4360 02:27:31,960 --> 02:27:33,000 COLLEGE, I WASN'T PART OF THIS 4361 02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:34,800 PROGRAM BUT I LOVE THIS PROGRAM. 4362 02:27:34,800 --> 02:27:37,320 I WAS JUST WONDERING, CAN I GIVE 4363 02:27:37,320 --> 02:27:38,520 A COMMENT -- QUICK COMMENT AND 4364 02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:39,720 THEN A QUESTION? 4365 02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:44,080 THE QUICK COMMENT IS, FOR THE 4366 02:27:44,080 --> 02:27:45,280 SUCCESS RATE, YES, WE WANT TO 4367 02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:46,680 SEE HOW MANY TRANSFERRED, BUT I 4368 02:27:46,680 --> 02:27:49,480 THINK MAYBE ALSO SUCCESS IS IF 4369 02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:50,760 THIS PROGRAM HELPED THEM GET A 4370 02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:52,640 JOB, RIGHT, AFTER FINISHING 4371 02:27:52,640 --> 02:27:54,120 THEIR TWO-YEAR COLLEGE. 4372 02:27:54,120 --> 02:27:56,720 BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A BIG 4373 02:27:56,720 --> 02:27:58,600 IMPACT THAT IT CAN HAVE. 4374 02:27:58,600 --> 02:27:59,960 AND FOR MY QUESTION, SO THERE 4375 02:27:59,960 --> 02:28:01,600 WERE SOME SCHOOLS THAT HAD THE 4376 02:28:01,600 --> 02:28:03,560 R25 FOR A WHILE, AND THEN 4377 02:28:03,560 --> 02:28:06,440 DEPARTMENT MAKE TO THE T34 AND I 4378 02:28:06,440 --> 02:28:07,440 WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY 4379 02:28:07,440 --> 02:28:08,520 INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE SCHOOLS. 4380 02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:10,680 DID THEY APPLY AND NOT GET IT OR 4381 02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:12,240 SHOULD WE GO BACK AND JUST SEE 4382 02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:13,640 LIKE WHAT HAPPENED, WHY DID YOU 4383 02:28:13,640 --> 02:28:14,480 NOT RENEW? 4384 02:28:14,480 --> 02:28:17,200 ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE 4385 02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:17,520 LONG-RUNNING. 4386 02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:19,240 >>SO IF I MAY, ALL OF THE DATA 4387 02:28:19,240 --> 02:28:24,080 THAT I SHOWED ON THE SLIDE WAS 4388 02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:26,000 ONLY THE R25 SO MANY OF THOSE 4389 02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:27,760 DIDN'T REAPPLY, AND THERE WAS 4390 02:28:27,760 --> 02:28:28,880 SOME SENSE THAT SOME OF THIS WAS 4391 02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:32,000 DUE TO THE HEADACHES THAT PEOPLE 4392 02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:35,800 HAD TO ADMINISTER THE GRANTS. 4393 02:28:35,800 --> 02:28:36,840 THAT'S VERY ANECDOTAL. 4394 02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:38,840 THERE WAS NO DATA SHOWN FOR THE 4395 02:28:38,840 --> 02:28:39,280 T34. 4396 02:28:39,280 --> 02:28:41,000 SO WE HAVE NO INFORMATION OF 4397 02:28:41,000 --> 02:28:42,840 WHICH OF THOSE PROGRAMS HAVE 4398 02:28:42,840 --> 02:28:44,920 CONTINUED ON OR NOT. 4399 02:28:44,920 --> 02:28:48,680 WE KEPT THE ANALYSIS COMPLETELY 4400 02:28:48,680 --> 02:28:48,960 SEPARATE. 4401 02:28:48,960 --> 02:28:50,880 >>I THINK IT MAY BE WORTH JUST 4402 02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:52,640 IF WE SEE THAT THERE WERE A LOT 4403 02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:55,880 OF T35s THAT DIDN'T -- T25s 4404 02:28:55,880 --> 02:28:57,040 THAT DIDN'T TRANSFER, JUST TO 4405 02:28:57,040 --> 02:29:02,960 SEE WHY NOT, BECAUSE WE MAY -- 4406 02:29:02,960 --> 02:29:04,360 MAYBE TO HELP THEM CONTINUE, 4407 02:29:04,360 --> 02:29:05,760 BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE 4408 02:29:05,760 --> 02:29:07,920 CULTURE AND THE INSTITUTIONAL 4409 02:29:07,920 --> 02:29:08,160 RECORD. 4410 02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:09,600 >>TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT'S 4411 02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:11,680 WHY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 4412 02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:12,600 COMMUNICATION, BECAUSE I THINK 4413 02:29:12,600 --> 02:29:16,000 THERE WAS SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT 4414 02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:18,280 HOW TO -- AS WE CHANGE TO A 4415 02:29:18,280 --> 02:29:21,280 DIFFERENT BUDGETARY SITUATION, 4416 02:29:21,280 --> 02:29:22,600 THE PIs AREN'T NECESSARILY 4417 02:29:22,600 --> 02:29:24,520 SCHOOLED IN BUDGETARY ANALYSIS, 4418 02:29:24,520 --> 02:29:26,160 SO THEY MAY HAVE BEEN SORT OF 4419 02:29:26,160 --> 02:29:27,240 THINKING, OH, WE CAN'T DO THE 4420 02:29:27,240 --> 02:29:29,760 THINGS WE DID BEFORE. 4421 02:29:29,760 --> 02:29:35,200 AND TALKING AMONG OURSELVES, THE 4422 02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:36,840 UPTICK WAS YES, ACTUALLY IT'S 4423 02:29:36,840 --> 02:29:38,240 POSSIBLE, BUT IT GOING TO BE IN 4424 02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:39,640 A DIFFERENT BUDGET CATEGORY, AND 4425 02:29:39,640 --> 02:29:41,360 THAT SEEMED TO MAYBE STRIP SOME 4426 02:29:41,360 --> 02:29:43,640 OF THE PI'S BACKGROUND, AND 4427 02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:47,160 THAT'S WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING SOME 4428 02:29:47,160 --> 02:29:51,320 DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH 4429 02:29:51,320 --> 02:29:52,760 POTENTIAL -- YES. 4430 02:29:52,760 --> 02:29:53,400 >>CERTAINLY. 4431 02:29:53,400 --> 02:29:54,240 LAST QUESTION. 4432 02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:55,280 >>IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 4433 02:29:55,280 --> 02:29:56,400 THE DIRECTORS OF THESE PROGRAMS 4434 02:29:56,400 --> 02:29:57,680 TO MEET EACH OTHER? 4435 02:29:57,680 --> 02:29:59,560 IS THERE A COMMUNICATION 4436 02:29:59,560 --> 02:30:03,120 MECHANISM? 4437 02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:08,440 >>YES, THERE'S A VERY ACTIVE 4438 02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:10,040 TWD PROGRAM DIRECTORS' 4439 02:30:10,040 --> 02:30:11,280 ORGANIZATION AND THERE'S A SORT 4440 02:30:11,280 --> 02:30:13,360 OF HIGHER ORDER PERSON WHO LEADS 4441 02:30:13,360 --> 02:30:15,960 IT AND THEN THERE ARE SUBGROUPS 4442 02:30:15,960 --> 02:30:18,800 THAT FORM AND SO THEY HAVE -- 4443 02:30:18,800 --> 02:30:22,040 THEY MEET -- AND -- CAMPS ARE A 4444 02:30:22,040 --> 02:30:23,640 MAJOR MEETING PLACE FOR MANY OF 4445 02:30:23,640 --> 02:30:25,200 THESE PROGRAM DIRECTORS, BUT 4446 02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:26,880 THEY ALSO -- ONE OF THE POSITIVE 4447 02:30:26,880 --> 02:30:29,840 THINGS ABOUT COVID IS THAT 4448 02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:31,720 PEOPLE REALIZE THEY CAN -- IN 4449 02:30:31,720 --> 02:30:33,440 OFF TIMES TOO, SO THEY ARE 4450 02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:34,600 GETTING TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE 4451 02:30:34,600 --> 02:30:35,560 YEAR. 4452 02:30:35,560 --> 02:30:37,360 IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE ORGANIZATION. 4453 02:30:37,360 --> 02:30:39,360 THEY SHARE EFFECTIVE PRACTICES 4454 02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:42,920 AND WE TRIED HARD TO ENGENDER A 4455 02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:44,120 SENSE OF COMMUNITY RATHER THAN 4456 02:30:44,120 --> 02:30:45,120 COMPETITION AND THAT WE'RE 4457 02:30:45,120 --> 02:30:47,480 TRYING TO LIFT ALL BOATS AND 4458 02:30:47,480 --> 02:30:50,120 SHARE EFFECTIVE PRACTICES. 4459 02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:52,960 SO THAT'S VERY POSITIVE THING 4460 02:30:52,960 --> 02:30:55,240 THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE 4461 02:30:55,240 --> 02:30:57,680 COMMUNITY. 4462 02:30:57,680 --> 02:30:59,200 >>OKAY. 4463 02:30:59,200 --> 02:30:59,640 GREAT. 4464 02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:00,720 WELL, I WANT TO THANK THE 4465 02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:01,760 COMMITTEE AGAIN. 4466 02:31:01,760 --> 02:31:03,720 THIS WAS REALLY AN INCREDIBLY 4467 02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:04,600 USEFUL REPORT. 4468 02:31:04,600 --> 02:31:07,400 WE WILL, AS WE ALWAYS DO, HAVE A 4469 02:31:07,400 --> 02:31:08,520 RESPONSE, WHAT THE INSTITUTE 4470 02:31:08,520 --> 02:31:10,480 WILL DO BASED ON YOUR 4471 02:31:10,480 --> 02:31:11,480 RECOMMENDATIONS, EITHER AT THE 4472 02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:12,560 NEXT COUNCIL OR THE COUNCIL 4473 02:31:12,560 --> 02:31:14,080 AFTER THAT, AND WE'LL POST ALL 4474 02:31:14,080 --> 02:31:17,800 OF THAT ON OUR WEBSITE AND OUR 4475 02:31:17,800 --> 02:31:18,760 EVALUATIONS PAGE AS WE ALWAYS 4476 02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:19,480 DO. 4477 02:31:19,480 --> 02:31:21,600 SO THANK YOU AGAIN, REALLY VERY, 4478 02:31:21,600 --> 02:31:22,640 VERY HELPFUL. 4479 02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:25,040 WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE TO THE 4480 02:31:25,040 --> 02:31:26,000 CONCEPT CLEARANCES AND I'M GOING 4481 02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:28,960 TO JUST STAY HERE IF THAT'S OKAY 4482 02:31:28,960 --> 02:31:32,680 WITH EVERYBODY TO DO THOSE. 4483 02:31:32,680 --> 02:31:34,840 AS I'VE TOLD THE NEW FOLKS AND 4484 02:31:34,840 --> 02:31:38,120 THE OLD FOLKS KNOW THAT IN ORDER 4485 02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:41,720 TO REISSUE A PROGRAM OR TO START 4486 02:31:41,720 --> 02:31:43,520 A NEW PROGRAM, WE NEED TO 4487 02:31:43,520 --> 02:31:45,080 DISCUSS IT WITH COUNCIL, THEN 4488 02:31:45,080 --> 02:31:46,520 GET COUNCIL'S FORMAL APPROVAL, 4489 02:31:46,520 --> 02:31:49,360 WHICH IS CALLED A CONCEPT 4490 02:31:49,360 --> 02:31:50,440 CLEARANCE. 4491 02:31:50,440 --> 02:31:52,000 WE'RE GOING TO DO SEVERAL 4492 02:31:52,000 --> 02:31:55,120 REISSUES RIGHT NOW OF EXISTING 4493 02:31:55,120 --> 02:31:55,400 PROGRAMS. 4494 02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:59,040 ALL OF THEM WITHOUT MAJOR 4495 02:31:59,040 --> 02:31:59,360 CHANGES. 4496 02:31:59,360 --> 02:32:01,520 I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF 4497 02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:02,480 PRESENTATION, VERY BRIEF, ONE 4498 02:32:02,480 --> 02:32:04,120 SLIDE ON EACH ONE, GIVE YOU AN 4499 02:32:04,120 --> 02:32:05,880 OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENTS IF 4500 02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:07,720 YOU WANT, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A 4501 02:32:07,720 --> 02:32:09,880 VOTE ON EACH ONE IN TURN SO 4502 02:32:09,880 --> 02:32:11,320 THAT'S HOW IT WILL WORK. 4503 02:32:11,320 --> 02:32:14,320 SO THE FIRST IS ACTUALLY TWO 4504 02:32:14,320 --> 02:32:15,040 PROGRAMS AT ONCE. 4505 02:32:15,040 --> 02:32:17,440 IT'S THE U. RISE AND THE MARC 4506 02:32:17,440 --> 02:32:19,360 PROGRAM, THE UNDERGRADUATE 4507 02:32:19,360 --> 02:32:20,160 DIVERSITY ENHANCING PROGRAMS. 4508 02:32:20,160 --> 02:32:22,200 YOU ACTUALLY HEARD PAM MENTION 4509 02:32:22,200 --> 02:32:24,640 THIS, THESE PROGRAMS IN THEIR 4510 02:32:24,640 --> 02:32:27,000 PRESENTATION. 4511 02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:29,480 SO THE GOAL OF BOTH U. RISE AND 4512 02:32:29,480 --> 02:32:31,240 MARC ARE TO HELP BUILD A DIVERSE 4513 02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:33,000 POOL OF UNDERGRADUATES WOULD 4514 02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:34,480 COMPLETE THEIR 4515 02:32:34,480 --> 02:32:36,440 BACCALAUREATE DEGREES AND THEN 4516 02:32:36,440 --> 02:32:38,880 TRANSITION INTO RESEARCH FOCUSED 4517 02:32:38,880 --> 02:32:40,400 HAYER DEGREE PROGRAMS AND 4518 02:32:40,400 --> 02:32:41,680 HOPEFULLY GRADUATE FROM THOSE 4519 02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:44,280 PROBLEMS WITH AN OVERALL GOAL OF 4520 02:32:44,280 --> 02:32:45,360 BUILDING DIVERSITY AND 4521 02:32:45,360 --> 02:32:47,760 EXCELLENCE IN THE BIOMEDICAL 4522 02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:50,160 RESEARCH ENTERPRISE. 4523 02:32:50,160 --> 02:32:52,480 THE PROGRAMS, SIMILAR TO WHAT 4524 02:32:52,480 --> 02:32:56,640 YOU HEARD ABOUT THE T34 VERSION, 4525 02:32:56,640 --> 02:33:00,320 THESE ARE, IN FACT, BOTH T34s, 4526 02:33:00,320 --> 02:33:01,840 ARE TRAINING GRANTS, THEY 4527 02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:02,760 PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE STUDENTS 4528 02:33:02,760 --> 02:33:04,840 IN TERMS OF STIPENDS, IN TERMS 4529 02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:11,440 OF TUITION REMISSION, BENEFIT, 4530 02:33:11,440 --> 02:33:13,840 HEALTH BENEFITS, ET, MONEY FOR 4531 02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:15,680 OTHER ACTIVITIES TO SUPPORT 4532 02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:17,840 MENTORING, DIDACTIC ACTIVITIES, 4533 02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:18,640 ET CETERA. 4534 02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:21,720 SO THE REASON THERE ARE TWO 4535 02:33:21,720 --> 02:33:23,520 PROGRAMS, U-RISE AND MARC, IS 4536 02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:25,360 BECAUSE THEY TARGET DIFFERENT 4537 02:33:25,360 --> 02:33:26,040 INSTITUTION TYPES. 4538 02:33:26,040 --> 02:33:28,560 THE U-RISE PROGRAM IS WHAT WE 4539 02:33:28,560 --> 02:33:31,600 CALL RESEARCH ACTIVE 4540 02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:32,280 INSTITUTIONS, INSTITUTIONS THAT 4541 02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:34,800 HAVE LESS THAN $7.5 MILLION IN 4542 02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:36,320 NIH RESEARCH PROJECT GRANT 4543 02:33:36,320 --> 02:33:37,480 FUNDING. 4544 02:33:37,480 --> 02:33:38,680 THE MARC PROGRAM IS FOR THE 4545 02:33:38,680 --> 02:33:39,640 RESEARCH INTENSIVE INSTITUTIONS 4546 02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:40,960 WHICH IS MORE THAN THAT LEVEL OF 4547 02:33:40,960 --> 02:33:41,440 FUNDING. 4548 02:33:41,440 --> 02:33:43,880 AND THEY'RE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT 4549 02:33:43,880 --> 02:33:44,880 ORGANIZATIONS IN THE PROGRAMS 4550 02:33:44,880 --> 02:33:46,880 BECAUSE THEY'RE TARGETING 4551 02:33:46,880 --> 02:33:49,160 INSTITUTIONS WITH DIFFERENT 4552 02:33:49,160 --> 02:33:51,320 RESEARCH BASIS AT THAT POINT. 4553 02:33:51,320 --> 02:33:53,360 THE PROGRAM IS ONLY GOING TO 4554 02:33:53,360 --> 02:33:55,120 HAVE MINOR CHANGES THAT WE'RE 4555 02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:56,440 PROPOSING, WHICH IS TO UPDATE 4556 02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:58,720 AND SIMPLIFY THE ATTACHMENTS IN 4557 02:33:58,720 --> 02:34:01,760 TEMPLES WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING OR 4558 02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:04,280 ALLOWING THE APPLICANTS TO PUT 4559 02:34:04,280 --> 02:34:09,200 IN THEIR MATERIALS IN THE -- 4560 02:34:09,200 --> 02:34:10,640 ITSELF AND IN THE APPENDIX AND 4561 02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:11,640 ALSO IN TERMS OF LETTER 4562 02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:11,960 REQUIREMENTS. 4563 02:34:11,960 --> 02:34:13,480 WE'RE TRYING TO SIMPLIFY IT FOR 4564 02:34:13,480 --> 02:34:15,280 THE APPLICANTS AND FOR THE 4565 02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:16,040 REVIEWERS. 4566 02:34:16,040 --> 02:34:17,600 ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR 4567 02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:23,280 QUESTIONS ON THOSE PROGRAMS? 4568 02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:24,880 >>I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS 4569 02:34:24,880 --> 02:34:26,120 CONCEPT FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT 4570 02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:28,920 AS FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. 4571 02:34:28,920 --> 02:34:30,560 IS ANYONE OPPOSED? 4572 02:34:30,560 --> 02:34:33,200 I'M WATCHING THE PEOPLE ONLINE 4573 02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:34,560 TOO. 4574 02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:36,160 OKAY, WE ARE UNANIMOUSLY 4575 02:34:36,160 --> 02:34:36,400 APPROVED. 4576 02:34:36,400 --> 02:34:36,760 >>THANK YOU. 4577 02:34:36,760 --> 02:34:38,640 SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH 4578 02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:39,840 REISSUING THOSE NOTICES OF 4579 02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:41,440 FUNDING OPPORTUNITY. 4580 02:34:41,440 --> 02:34:43,760 THE NEXT ONE IS THE SUPPORT FOR 4581 02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:46,040 RESEARCH EXCELLENCE OR SURE 4582 02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:46,440 AWARDS. 4583 02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:48,880 YOU MAY RECALL THAT BASED ON THE 4584 02:34:48,880 --> 02:34:50,720 EVALUATION OF THE FORMER SCORE 4585 02:34:50,720 --> 02:34:52,480 PROGRAM, WE SUNSETTED THAT 4586 02:34:52,480 --> 02:34:54,120 PROGRAM AND REPLACED IT WITH 4587 02:34:54,120 --> 02:34:55,960 THIS PROGRAM, SURE. 4588 02:34:55,960 --> 02:34:57,840 THE GOAL OF SURE IS TO SUPPORT 4589 02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:02,680 RESEARCH CAPACITY BUILDING AT 4590 02:35:02,680 --> 02:35:03,680 ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS AND 4591 02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:05,320 THROUGH FUNDING INVESTIGATOR 4592 02:35:05,320 --> 02:35:07,600 INITIATED RESEARCH IN VARIOUS 4593 02:35:07,600 --> 02:35:11,360 BIOMEDICAL AREAS WITH RELEVANCE 4594 02:35:11,360 --> 02:35:14,360 TO NIH, AND SME SPECIFICALLY THA 4595 02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:15,360 SEARCH GRANTS PROVIDE SUPPORT 4596 02:35:15,360 --> 02:35:18,160 FOR FACULTY INVESTIGATORS IN TWO 4597 02:35:18,160 --> 02:35:20,040 CATEGORIES: THE OVERALL SURE 4598 02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:21,880 AWARDS ARE FOR PIs WHO DON'T 4599 02:35:21,880 --> 02:35:24,840 HAVE ACTIVE NIH RESEARCH PROJECT 4600 02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:26,520 GRANTS BUT MAY HAVE HAD THEM IN 4601 02:35:26,520 --> 02:35:28,480 THE PAST. 4602 02:35:28,480 --> 02:35:30,560 AND THE SURE FIRST AWARD IS FOR 4603 02:35:30,560 --> 02:35:31,880 INVESTIGATORS WHO HAVEN'T HAD 4604 02:35:31,880 --> 02:35:33,160 ANY MAJOR PEER REVIEWED 4605 02:35:33,160 --> 02:35:34,040 EXTERNALLY FUNDED RESEARCH 4606 02:35:34,040 --> 02:35:35,160 GRANTS. 4607 02:35:35,160 --> 02:35:40,080 SO TO GET THEM STARTED. 4608 02:35:40,080 --> 02:35:41,720 THE AWARDS REQUIRE STUDENT 4609 02:35:41,720 --> 02:35:42,720 PARTICIPATION IN THE FUNDED 4610 02:35:42,720 --> 02:35:42,960 RESEARCH. 4611 02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:44,120 THAT'S A DIFFERENCE WITH THE OLD 4612 02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:46,560 SCORE PROGRAM. 4613 02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:47,880 AND WE DON'T PROPOSE ANY 4614 02:35:47,880 --> 02:35:48,440 SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE 4615 02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:51,440 PROGRAM AT THIS STAGE, JUST TO 4616 02:35:51,440 --> 02:35:52,960 REISSUE IT SO PEOPLE CAN 4617 02:35:52,960 --> 02:35:56,240 CONTINUE APPLYING FOR GRANTS. 4618 02:35:56,240 --> 02:35:57,760 DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR 4619 02:35:57,760 --> 02:36:02,800 QUESTIONS? 4620 02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:03,160 PAOL ASM. 4621 02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:04,520 >>IS THIS PROGRAM ALSO WHERE 4622 02:36:04,520 --> 02:36:05,520 YOU CAN REAPPLY? 4623 02:36:05,520 --> 02:36:06,760 BECAUSE I REMEMBER WITH SCORE -- 4624 02:36:06,760 --> 02:36:07,720 >>EXCELLENT POINT. 4625 02:36:07,720 --> 02:36:08,920 THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE 4626 02:36:08,920 --> 02:36:10,720 CHANGED AS WELL, THAT PEOPLE CAN 4627 02:36:10,720 --> 02:36:12,040 REAPPLY. 4628 02:36:12,040 --> 02:36:13,560 THE SURE FIRST, THEY CAN'T, BUT 4629 02:36:13,560 --> 02:36:15,040 THEN THEY CAN APPLY FOR THE 4630 02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:16,680 SURE, AND THE SURE IS RENEWABLE. 4631 02:36:16,680 --> 02:36:18,760 ONE OF THE MAJOR DEFICIENCIES OF 4632 02:36:18,760 --> 02:36:21,920 THE SCORE PROGRAM THAT THE GROUP 4633 02:36:21,920 --> 02:36:23,600 THAT EVALUATED IT PERCEIVED WAS, 4634 02:36:23,600 --> 02:36:26,160 IT WAS GEARED TOWARDS THE 4635 02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:28,280 FACULTY TRANSITIONING TO R01s, 4636 02:36:28,280 --> 02:36:32,480 AND MANY OF THE FACULTY ARE AT 4637 02:36:32,480 --> 02:36:32,960 UNDERGRADUATE-FOCUSED 4638 02:36:32,960 --> 02:36:33,600 INSTITUTIONS AND IT TURNED OUT 4639 02:36:33,600 --> 02:36:35,400 TO BE A TOTALLY UNREALISTIC 4640 02:36:35,400 --> 02:36:35,640 GOAL. 4641 02:36:35,640 --> 02:36:38,120 BUT AS YOU SAID, THEY WEREN'T 4642 02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:38,920 RENEWABLE BECAUSE THEY WERE 4643 02:36:38,920 --> 02:36:41,320 SUPPOSED TO GO GET AN R01, AND I 4644 02:36:41,320 --> 02:36:44,760 THINK ONLY 4% OF PEOPLE WHO GOT 4645 02:36:44,760 --> 02:36:49,200 SCORE GRANTS HAD AN R01 TO ZO 4646 02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:50,280 THAT WASN'T REALLY WORKING. 4647 02:36:50,280 --> 02:36:52,120 THIS IS A STAND-ALONE GRANT THAT 4648 02:36:52,120 --> 02:36:54,640 IS RENEWABLE AND IS SUPPOSED TO 4649 02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:55,760 SUPPORT -- CAN SUPPORT THEIR 4650 02:36:55,760 --> 02:36:58,600 RESEARCH FOR SIGNIFICANT PERIODS 4651 02:36:58,600 --> 02:37:03,360 OF TIME, AGAIN FOE KUTION ON FON 4652 02:37:03,360 --> 02:37:04,280 STUDENT PARTICIPATION IN THAT 4653 02:37:04,280 --> 02:37:04,520 RESEARCH. 4654 02:37:04,520 --> 02:37:08,240 >>I MOVE WE APPROVE THIS 4655 02:37:08,240 --> 02:37:10,080 CONCEPT FOR FUTURE FUNDING 4656 02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:11,000 OPPORTUNITIES. 4657 02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:12,400 ANY OPPOSED? 4658 02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:13,440 WE'RE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. 4659 02:37:13,440 --> 02:37:14,240 >>EXCELLENT. 4660 02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:14,520 THANK YOU. 4661 02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:17,320 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 4662 02:37:17,320 --> 02:37:19,080 THEN THERE'S THE ACADEMIC 4663 02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:21,440 RESEARCH ENHABSMENT AWARD, AREA. 4664 02:37:21,440 --> 02:37:23,320 THESE ARE THE R15 GRANTS FOCUSED 4665 02:37:23,320 --> 02:37:26,040 ON UNDERGRADUATE INSTITUTIONS, 4666 02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:27,800 AND THEY SUPPORT SMALL SCALE 4667 02:37:27,800 --> 02:37:30,040 RESEARCH PROJECTS AT UNDER 4668 02:37:30,040 --> 02:37:31,840 GRADUATE FOCUSED ACADEMIC 4669 02:37:31,840 --> 02:37:32,800 INSTITUTIONS THAT RECEIVE 4670 02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:36,160 LIMITED NIH FUNDING. 4671 02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:37,680 THEY PROVIDE BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH 4672 02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:39,240 EXPERIENCES FOR UNDERGRADUATE 4673 02:37:39,240 --> 02:37:40,400 STUDENTS, THERE'SLY THEIR MAIN 4674 02:37:40,400 --> 02:37:42,800 GOAL S TO LET FACULTY AT THESE 4675 02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:46,960 INSTITUTIONS DO RESEARCH WITH 4676 02:37:46,960 --> 02:37:47,840 UNDERGRADUATES AND TO STRENGTHEN 4677 02:37:47,840 --> 02:37:49,040 THE RESEARCH ENVIRONMENT AT 4678 02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:52,200 THOSE INSTITUTIONS. 4679 02:37:52,200 --> 02:37:53,960 SO THE MAJOR CHANGE OR REALLY 4680 02:37:53,960 --> 02:37:55,360 MINOR CHANGE WE PLAN FOR THIS IS 4681 02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:57,640 TO ADD THE PLAN FOR ENLANSING 4682 02:37:57,640 --> 02:37:59,920 DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES OR EDP TO 4683 02:37:59,920 --> 02:38:01,800 THE APPLICATION, SO THIS IS THE 4684 02:38:01,800 --> 02:38:06,560 APPLICANTS HAVE TO SAY HOW THEY 4685 02:38:06,560 --> 02:38:08,240 ARE INCREASING THE DIVERSITY AND 4686 02:38:08,240 --> 02:38:09,200 PERSPECTIVES THAT WILL BE TAKEN 4687 02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:10,680 INTO ACCOUNT AND INCORPORATED 4688 02:38:10,680 --> 02:38:11,360 INTO THE RYE SEARCH PROJECT, AND 4689 02:38:11,360 --> 02:38:12,800 THEY CAN DO THAT IN A WIDE 4690 02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:14,760 VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 4691 02:38:14,760 --> 02:38:16,280 BUT THE IDEA AGAIN IS TO IMPROVE 4692 02:38:16,280 --> 02:38:19,960 THE RESEARCH BY KEEPING IT FROM 4693 02:38:19,960 --> 02:38:23,560 BEING NARROWLY DONE AND THOUGHT 4694 02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:24,880 ABOUT BY PEOPLE WITH VERY 4695 02:38:24,880 --> 02:38:25,960 SIMILAR BACKGROUNDS AND 4696 02:38:25,960 --> 02:38:28,720 PERSPECTIVES AND BROADEN THE 4697 02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:30,760 THINKING AND THE EXPERIENCES AND 4698 02:38:30,760 --> 02:38:32,600 BACKGROUNDS OF THE PEOPLE OR THE 4699 02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:34,640 KINDS OF RESEARCH THAT'S BEING 4700 02:38:34,640 --> 02:38:39,800 DONE. 4701 02:38:39,800 --> 02:38:42,720 ALSO TO CLARIFY THE REVIEW 4702 02:38:42,720 --> 02:38:46,120 CRITERIA FOR ENGAGING 4703 02:38:46,120 --> 02:38:48,160 UNDERGRADUATE STUDENTS IS 4704 02:38:48,160 --> 02:38:49,040 SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN HERE. 4705 02:38:49,040 --> 02:38:50,480 >>I MOVE WE APPROVE THIS 4706 02:38:50,480 --> 02:38:51,680 CONCEPT FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT 4707 02:38:51,680 --> 02:38:54,360 AS A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY. 4708 02:38:54,360 --> 02:38:56,560 ANY OPPOSED? 4709 02:38:56,560 --> 02:38:57,280 UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. 4710 02:38:57,280 --> 02:38:57,600 >>EXCELLENT. 4711 02:38:57,600 --> 02:39:00,280 SO I THINK THAT'S THE LAST 4712 02:39:00,280 --> 02:39:01,240 SLIDE, RIGHT? 4713 02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:04,080 OKAY, TERRIFIC. 4714 02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:09,000 SO WE NOW HAVE A MINUTE OR TWO 4715 02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:10,200 FOR ANY OPEN DISCUSSION. 4716 02:39:10,200 --> 02:39:11,920 WE DID INVITE MEMBERS OF THE 4717 02:39:11,920 --> 02:39:12,920 PUBLIC AND PROFESSIONAL 4718 02:39:12,920 --> 02:39:14,240 SOCIETIES WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE 4719 02:39:14,240 --> 02:39:15,480 TO MAKE COMMENTS IF THEY WANTED 4720 02:39:15,480 --> 02:39:16,960 TO, BUT DIDN'T GET ANY TAKERS, 4721 02:39:16,960 --> 02:39:21,640 BUT IF ANYONE HAS LAST MINUTE 4722 02:39:21,640 --> 02:39:22,960 CHANGE OF HEART, THEY'RE WELCOME 4723 02:39:22,960 --> 02:39:24,240 TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. 4724 02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:27,080 BUT IN THE PAST, THAT'S HOW 4725 02:39:27,080 --> 02:39:29,120 WE'VE WORKED AT THESE IN-PERSON 4726 02:39:29,120 --> 02:39:30,120 MEETINGS, THAT REPRESENTATIVES 4727 02:39:30,120 --> 02:39:32,200 OF OUR CONSTITUENT SOCIETIES 4728 02:39:32,200 --> 02:39:34,160 HAVE SOMETIMES MADE COMMENTS. 4729 02:39:34,160 --> 02:39:35,760 AND WE CERTAINLY WELCOME THEM TO 4730 02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:40,440 DO SO AT FUTURE MEETINGS WHEN 4731 02:39:40,440 --> 02:39:41,800 WE'RE IN PERSON. 4732 02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:43,000 DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE 4733 02:39:43,000 --> 02:39:44,400 THEY'D LIKE TO BRING UP, THINGS 4734 02:39:44,400 --> 02:39:45,360 THEY THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT 4735 02:39:45,360 --> 02:39:49,640 IN THE FUTURE, OTHER ISSUES? 4736 02:39:49,640 --> 02:39:50,200 PAM. 4737 02:39:50,200 --> 02:39:53,520 >>SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT 4738 02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:55,160 I'M CLOSE TO THE END OF MY 4739 02:39:55,160 --> 02:39:55,680 ROTATION -- 4740 02:39:55,680 --> 02:39:57,280 >>NO, DON'T SAY IT. 4741 02:39:57,280 --> 02:39:57,680 YOU MAKE ME CRY. 4742 02:39:57,680 --> 02:39:59,600 >>IT BEEN VERY INSTRUCTIVE FOR 4743 02:39:59,600 --> 02:40:02,960 ME TO SEE THE EVOLUTION OF 4744 02:40:02,960 --> 02:40:04,680 WHAT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE IN 4745 02:40:04,680 --> 02:40:06,440 NIGMS, AND IT'S REALLY GOOD TO 4746 02:40:06,440 --> 02:40:09,960 SEE INCREMENTAL CHANGES THAT ARE 4747 02:40:09,960 --> 02:40:12,000 MEANT TO IMPROVE WHAT WE DO AND 4748 02:40:12,000 --> 02:40:13,280 HOW WE DO IT, AND SO I JUST 4749 02:40:13,280 --> 02:40:16,480 WANTED TO MAKE THAT OBSERVATION 4750 02:40:16,480 --> 02:40:19,040 BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY DO THAT AS 4751 02:40:19,040 --> 02:40:20,160 YOUR TIME IS STARTING TO 4752 02:40:20,160 --> 02:40:20,440 DISAPPEAR. 4753 02:40:20,440 --> 02:40:21,720 >>THANK YOU, PAM, AND YOU'VE 4754 02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:24,240 BEEN AMAZING TO HAVE ON COUNCIL 4755 02:40:24,240 --> 02:40:25,680 AND WE SAW SOME OF THE RESULTS 4756 02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:29,040 OF YOUR WORK JUST NOW. 4757 02:40:29,040 --> 02:40:31,920 ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COMMENTS? 4758 02:40:31,920 --> 02:40:32,000 ALL RIGHT. 4759 02:40:32,000 --> 00:00:00,000 IN THAT CASE, WE'RE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH.