1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,120 >>WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO NIGMS 2 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:10,720 COUNCIL. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,400 I'M JON LORSCH, DIRECTOR OF 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,360 NIGMS, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,760 START WITH IS INTRODUCTIONS, AND 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,320 I WILL GO AROUND THE ROOM AND 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,280 CALL ON YOU EACH IN TURN. 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,640 SO NATALIE, ARE YOU THERE? 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,960 >>NATALIE IS NOT ON -- OH, 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:28,800 SHE'S JUST JOINING NOW. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,360 >>OKAY. 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:39,400 I'LL ADMIT HER. 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:39,880 NATALIE, ARE YOU THERE? 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,480 >>HI. 15 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,160 >>COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? 16 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:43,760 >>SORRY, JON. 17 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,800 HI, I'M NATALIE AHN, PROFESSOR 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,840 IN THE DEPARTMENT OF 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,600 BIOCHEMISTRY AT THE UNIVERSITY 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,400 OF COLORADO BOULDER, AND MY AREA 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,080 IS SIGNAL TRANSDUCTION AND 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,960 FUNCTIONAL PROTEOMICS. 23 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,120 >>THANK YOU. 24 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,040 ANGELA BYARS-WINSTON. 25 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,440 >>SHE'S NOT ON YET, JON, AND 26 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,200 EITHER IS ANGELA DEPACE. 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,440 >>MICHAEL CHAPMAN. 28 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,000 I KNOW I SAW YOU THERE, MICHAEL. 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,080 >>YES. 30 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,840 MICHAEL CHAPMAN, CHAIR OF 31 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,720 BIOCHEMISTRY AT THE UNIVERSITY 32 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:19,880 OF MISSOURI. 33 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,520 AND I'M AN INVESTIGATOR WHO 34 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,720 LOOKS AT THE STRUCTURE OF 35 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,720 VIRUSES RELEVANT TO GENE 36 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,120 THERAPY. 37 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:26,720 >>GREAT. 38 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,320 THANK YOU, MICHAEL. 39 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:30,840 ANGELA DEPACE, I THINK IS NOT ON 40 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,920 YET? 41 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,200 >>THAT IS CORRECT. 42 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,840 >>KATHRYN FROMAN. 43 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,680 >>HI, EVERYONE, ASSISTANT 44 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,560 PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 45 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,760 DELAWARE IN THE CHEMICAL 46 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,640 ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND MY 47 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,840 RESEARCH IS IN AEROSOL DRUG 48 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,080 DELIVERY. 49 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,240 >>TERRIFIC. 50 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,040 NEIL? 51 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,040 >>GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. 52 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,000 DEPARTMENT OF CHEMISTRY AND 53 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,320 BIOCHEMISTRY, ORGANIC CHEMIST 54 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,280 HERE SERVING IN AN AD HOC 55 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:01,760 CAPACITY. 56 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,720 NICE TO SEE EVERYONE. 57 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,360 >>THANK YOU, NEIL. 58 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:04,720 LAURA GIBSON. 59 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,160 >>HI, I'M LAURA GIBSON AT WEST 60 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:07,600 VIRGINIA UNIVERSITY. 61 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,200 I'M THE SENIOR ASSOCIATE VICE 62 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,560 PRESIDENT FOR RESEARCH IN 63 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,560 GRADUATE EDUCATION AND I'M 64 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,600 PROFESSOR IN THE MICRO 65 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,440 DEPARTMENT, AND OUR LAB FOCUSED 66 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,080 ON TUMOR MICROENVIRONMENT AND 67 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,600 MODULATION OF THERAPEUTIC 68 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:23,880 RESPONSE. 69 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,120 >>GREAT. 70 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,080 THANK YOU, LAURA. 71 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,760 KLARISSA. 72 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,920 >>GOOD MORNING, KLARISSA 73 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:31,800 JACKSON, ASSISTANT PROFESSOR AT 74 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,960 THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA 75 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,480 AT CHAPEL HILL. 76 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,240 I STUDY DRUG METABOLISM. 77 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,960 >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 78 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,200 LAURIE KILPATRICK. 79 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,480 >>GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. 80 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,640 I'M LAURIE KILPATRICK, AD HOC 81 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:47,520 MEMBER, ASSISTANT DEAN OF 82 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,120 CLINICAL RESEARCH AND PROFESSOR 83 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,680 IN THE DEPARTMENT OF 84 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,880 MICROBIOLOGY, IMMUNOLOGY AND 85 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,480 INFLAMMATION IN THE SCHOOL OF 86 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,240 MEDICINE AT TEMPLE. 87 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,560 >>THANK YOU. 88 00:02:59,560 --> 00:02:59,720 RON. 89 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,200 >>GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. 90 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,480 I'M ON THE FACULTY AT UNIVERSITY 91 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,520 OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, KACK 92 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,160 SCHOOL OF MEDICINE. 93 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,800 DEPARTMENT WISE IT'S THE 94 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:13,600 TRANSLATIONAL GENOMICS 95 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,920 DEPARTMENT, BUT MY AREA OF FOCUS 96 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:18,960 ACTUALLY IS THE 97 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,080 COMMERCIALIZATION OF OUR 98 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,560 BIOMEDICAL PRODUCTS INTO PUBLIC 99 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,520 HEALTH, AND FULL DISCLOSURE ALSO 100 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,280 THE FORMER DEPUTY SCIENTIFIC 101 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,680 DIRECTOR AT THE NATIONAL HUMAN 102 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,880 GENOME RESEARCH INSTITUTE. 103 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,960 SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL MY 104 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,440 COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS. 105 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,480 >>THANK YOU, RON. 106 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,160 PRESIDENT KINZY, ARE YOU THERE? 107 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,000 >>I AM INDEED. 108 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,800 HI, I'M TERRI GOSS-KINZY, 109 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,280 DEPARTMENT OF BIOLOGICAL 110 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,360 SCIENCES AND PRESIDENT AT 111 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:45,880 ILLINOIS STATE UNIVERSITY. 112 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,080 MY LAB HAS STUDIED THE 113 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,600 MECHANISM, REGULATION OF 114 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,600 TRANSLATION ELONGATION WITH A 115 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,000 PARTICULAR INTEREST IN FUNGAL 116 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,200 SYSTEMS. 117 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,520 >>TERRIFIC. 118 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,240 DANIELLE LI. 119 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,400 >>HI, EVERYONE. 120 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,720 I'M DANIELLE LI. 121 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,680 I'M AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AT 122 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,880 MIT AT THE SLOAN SCHOOL OF 123 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,080 MANAGEMENT AND I'M AN ECONOMIST 124 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,960 THAT STUDIES SCIENCE. 125 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,840 >>TERRIFIC. 126 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,080 GERALD. 127 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:15,760 >>HI, I'M JERRY, MY RESEARCH IS 128 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,560 ON THE STEM WORKFORCE. 129 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,440 >>TERRIFIC. 130 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,000 DAVID MATHEWS. 131 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,960 >>HI, I'M DAVID MATHEWS AT THE 132 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,680 UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER. 133 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,640 PROFESSOR OF BIOCHEMISTRY AND 134 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,040 BIOPHYSICS AND IN OUR CENTER OF 135 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,320 RNA BIOLOGY, DEVELOPS 136 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,440 COMPUTATIONAL METHODS FOR 137 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:33,760 STUDYING RNA. 138 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,520 >>TERRIFIC. 139 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,280 LESLIE. 140 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:39,720 >>HI, I'M LESLIE ROSE AT 141 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,800 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA DAVIS, 142 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,520 AND I STUDY SPINDLE POSITIONING 143 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,040 AND POLARITY DURING ASYMMETRIC 144 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,320 DIVISION IN C. ELEGANS. 145 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,000 >>THANK YOU. 146 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,160 AMY. 147 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,920 >>HI, I'M AMY RO ROSENZWEIG, 148 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,120 PROFESSOR IN NORTHWESTERN 149 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,400 UNIVERSITY IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF 150 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,240 MOLECULAR BIOSCIENCES AND 151 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:01,880 CHEMISTRY. 152 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,880 STRUCTURAL BIOLOGIST. 153 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,360 >>TERRIFIC. 154 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:03,800 MELANIE? 155 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,640 >>HI, I'M MELANIE SANFORD. 156 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,000 I'M A PROFESSOR OF CHEMISTRY AT 157 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,040 THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN AND I 158 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:15,480 AM AN ORGANIC AND K CATALYSIS 159 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:15,720 CHEMIST. 160 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,920 >>THANK YOU. 161 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,120 PAMELA. 162 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,200 >>GOOD MORNING. 163 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,040 PAMELA STACKS FROM SAN JOSÉ 164 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,520 STATE UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS PART 165 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,360 OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE 166 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,880 UNIVERSITY SYSTEM AND PROFESSOR 167 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,080 EMERITI IN THE DEPARTMENT OF 168 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,360 CHEMISTRY AND WORKED WITH THE 169 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,040 DEPARTMENT OF RESEARCH FOR MANY 170 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,320 YEARS DEALING WITH PIPELINE 171 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,400 ISSUES AND ENCOURAGING A 172 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,920 RESEARCH ENVIRONMENT. 173 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:44,680 >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 174 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,200 I THINK JEFFREY SUN WAS NOT ABLE 175 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:46,680 TO MAKE IT. 176 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,400 IS THAT CORRECT, DARREN? 177 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,480 >>YES, THAT'S CORRECT, JON. 178 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,520 HE COULDN'T MAKE IT. 179 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,920 >>RON. 180 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,280 >>GOOD MORNING, FOLKS. 181 00:05:58,280 --> 00:05:59,560 I'M DIRECTOR OF GENOMIC MEDICINE 182 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:05,840 IN THE OFFICE OF RESEARCH 183 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:06,400 DEVELOPMENT, DEPARTMENT OF 184 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,280 VETERANS AFFAIRS. 185 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:08,920 >>THANK YOU, RON. 186 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,240 LET'S GO BACK TO THE ANGELAS. 187 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,440 SO WE HAVE ANGELA BYARS-WINSTON. 188 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,840 >>GOOD MORNING. 189 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:15,880 ACTUALLY COMING TO YOU FROM 190 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,960 CHEVY CHASE ACROSS THE STREET. 191 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,600 ANGELA BYARS-WINSTON FROM 192 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,280 UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON, 193 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:24,600 WHERE I AM A PROFESSOR OF 194 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,720 MEDICINE AND DIRECTOR OF THE 195 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,120 INSTITUTE FOR DIVERSITY SCIENCE 196 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,080 AND MY FOCUS IS ON SCIENTIFIC 197 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,520 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, DIVERSITY 198 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,800 AND EFFECTIVE MENTORSHIP IN STEM 199 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,000 FIELDS. 200 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,320 THANK YOU. 201 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,840 >>I COULD HAVE PICKED YOU UP ON 202 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:39,400 MY WAY TO WORK, ANGELA. 203 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,640 >>THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL. 204 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,880 >>AND ANGELA DEPACE. 205 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,080 >>HI THERE. 206 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,840 MY NAME IS ANGELA DEPACE, 207 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:46,920 ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF SYSTEMS 208 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,240 BIOLOGY AT HARVARD MEDICAL 209 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:49,640 SCHOOL. 210 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,880 WHERE MY LAB STUDIES THE 211 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,880 MECHANISM AND EVOLUTION OF GENE 212 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:53,920 REGULATION IN FRUIT FLIES. 213 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,480 AND I ALSO SPEND A SIGNIFICANT 214 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,240 AMOUNT OF MY TIME THINKING ABOUT 215 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,040 PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND 216 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,280 MENTORING OF STEM GRADUATE 217 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:04,160 STUDENTS AND POSTDOCTORAL 218 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:04,360 FELLOWS. 219 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,000 >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 220 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,280 ERICA, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE 221 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:09,560 YOURSELF? 222 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,720 >>YES, GOOD MORNING. 223 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,800 HI, I'M ERICA BROWN, THE 224 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,760 DIRECTOR OF THE DIVISION OF 225 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,840 EXTRAMURAL ACTIVITIES AT NIGMS 226 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,160 AND THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY OF 227 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:17,400 COUNCIL. 228 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:17,960 >>GREAT. 229 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,440 AND DARREN, DO YOU WANT TO 230 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,280 INTRODUCE YOURSELF. 231 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,640 >>SURE. 232 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,480 I'M DARREN SLEDJESKI, DEPUTY 233 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,760 DIRECTOR OF OUR DIVISION OF 234 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,680 EXTRAMURAL ACTIVITIES. 235 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,760 I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW ME FROM 236 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,280 THE NUMEROUS EMAILS I HAVE SENT 237 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,560 OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, AND 238 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:39,400 THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO 239 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:39,720 THEM. 240 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,200 THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US. 241 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,040 WE'LL NOW ENTER SOME OF OUR 242 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,680 ADMINISTRATIVE DISAND THEN I 243 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:52,000 WILL GIVE AN UPDATE ON NIGMS 244 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,400 ACTIVITIES: I NEED TO CONFIRM 245 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,480 FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING DAITSZ. 246 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,920 THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THURSDAY, 247 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,320 MAY 18TH, 2023, AND NOTE THAT 248 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,880 WILL BE IN PERSON. 249 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,360 SO WE WILL HAVE ONE IN-PERSON 250 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,400 MEETING A YEAR AND IT WILL BE 251 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,720 THE MAY MEETING, AND WE'RE GOING 252 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,000 TO START WITH THE NEXT MEETING 253 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:07,840 IN MAY. 254 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,360 SO PLEASE MARK THAT ON YOUR 255 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,520 CALENDARS, THAT WE WILL BE 256 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,080 HAVING AN IN-PERSON MEETING FOR 257 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,480 OUR NEXT MEETING MAY 18TH. 258 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,360 THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2023 259 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,400 WILL BE A VIRTUAL MEETING, AND 260 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,960 THEN THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 1ST, 261 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,200 2024 WILL ALSO BE A VIRTUAL 262 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,800 MEETING. 263 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,480 ERICA, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON 264 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:30,680 THOSE? 265 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:31,280 >>WE DO NOT. 266 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:31,840 THANK YOU. 267 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,480 >>OKAY. 268 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:32,960 GOOD. 269 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,440 NOW I WILL READ TO YOU THE 270 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,120 CONFIDENTIALITY AND CONFLICT OF 271 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,120 INTEREST PROCEDURES. 272 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,280 FOR YOUR EDIFICATION. 273 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,360 SO, CONFLICT OF INTEREST 274 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:42,840 STATEMENT. 275 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,920 YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A 276 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,880 CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM FROM 277 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,360 DEA. 278 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,040 IT'S ALSO POSTED IN THE 279 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,400 ELECTRONIC COUNCIL BOOK. 280 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,920 PLEASE SIGN IT AS I READ THE 281 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,240 CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENT, 282 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,640 AND AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE WILL 283 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,600 SUFFICE AND RETURN IT VIA EMAIL 284 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,880 TO LINDA. 285 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,680 ADVISORS AND CONSULTANTS SERVING 286 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:03,200 AS MEMBERS OF PUBLIC ADVISORY 287 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,400 COMMITTEES MAY NOT PARTICIPATE 288 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,680 IN SITUATIONS IN WHICH ANY 289 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:07,920 VIOLATION OF CONFLICT OF 290 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,920 INTEREST LAWS AND REGULATIONS 291 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:10,920 MAY OCCUR. 292 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,920 STAFF SHALL ENSURE THAT A 293 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,120 COMMITTEE MEMBER DOES NOT 294 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,200 PARTICIPATE IN AND IS NOT 295 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,760 PRESENT DURING THE REVIEW OF 296 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,200 APPLICATIONS OR PROJECTS IN 297 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,400 WHICH THE MEMBERS KNOWLEDGE ANY 298 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,120 OF THE FOLLOWING HAS A FINANCIAL 299 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,200 INTEREST: THE MEMBER, HIS/HER 300 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,720 SPOUSE, MINOR CHILD, PARTNER, 301 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,920 INCLUDING CLOSE PROFESSIONAL 302 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,040 ASSOCIATES OR AN ORGANIZATION 303 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,320 WITH WHICH THE MEMBER IS 304 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,520 CONNECTED. 305 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,240 IN ADDITION, CONFLICTS OF 306 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,800 INTEREST MAY OCCUR BECAUSE OF 307 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,560 OTHER PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS 308 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:40,840 SUCH AS WITH RECENT STUDENTS, 309 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:41,520 COLLABORATIVES, PERSONAL FRIENDS 310 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,720 OR SCIENTISTS WITH WHOM THE 311 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,760 MEMBER HAS HAD LONG-STANDING 312 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,520 SCIENTIFIC OR PERSONAL 313 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:47,840 DIFFERENCES. 314 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,160 TO ENSURE THAT A MEMBER DOES NOT 315 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,000 PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION OF 316 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 NOR VOTE ON AN APPLICATION IN 317 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,240 WHICH HE OR SHE IS IN CONFLICT, 318 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,160 A WRITTEN CERTIFICATION IS 319 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:58,480 REQUIRED. 320 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,840 THIS STATEMENT WILL BECOME PART 321 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,160 OF THE MEETING FILE. 322 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,680 THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT ETHICS 323 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,640 HAS PROVIDED A WAIVER FOR 324 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,920 FEDERAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE 325 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,280 MEMBERS EMPLOYED IN ONE 326 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,880 UNIVERSITY OF A STATE 327 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,880 MULTI-UNIVERSITY SYSTEM TO 328 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,520 REVIEW APPLICATIONS FROM A 329 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,160 SEPARATE UNIVERSITY OF THE SAME 330 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,040 SYSTEM, PROVIDED THE MEMBER HAS 331 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,320 NO CONFLICTING INSTITUTIONAL 332 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:21,760 RESPONSIBILITIES. 333 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:22,960 IN ADDITION, A FEDERAL ADVISORY 334 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,880 COMMITTEE MEMBER WHO IS EMPLOYED 335 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,520 BY A PRIVATE INSTITUTION OR AT A 336 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,200 PRIVATE INSTITUTION AND AT ONE 337 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,600 OF ITS AFFILIATES, MAY 338 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,480 PARTICIPATE IN THE REVIEW OF A 339 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,800 GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY 340 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,080 ANOTHER AFFILIATE OF THE PRIVATE 341 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,720 INSTITUTION IF HE OR SHE DOES 342 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,920 NOT HOLD A JOINT APPOINTMENT 343 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,560 WITH THE AFFILIATE THAT HAS 344 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:41,880 SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION, DOES 345 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,840 NOT HAVE AFFILIATE-WIDE 346 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,720 RESPONSIBILITIES, AND HAS A 347 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,680 WAIVER TO DO SO. 348 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:49,040 WE AT NIGMS KEEP TRACK OF THE 349 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,640 MORE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE 350 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,280 CONFLICTS FOR YOU. 351 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,280 WE RELY ON YOU TO IDENTIFY OTHER 352 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,360 TYPES OF CONFLICTS SUCH AS THOSE 353 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,400 THAT WE ARE UNLIKELY TO KNOW 354 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,600 ABOUT, RECENT STUDENTS, PERSONAL 355 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,440 FRIENDS, ET CETERA. 356 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,600 PLEASE DON'T HESS DATE TO LET US 357 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,160 KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 358 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,840 ABOUT A POTENTIAL CONFLICT. 359 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,240 OKAY. 360 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,440 SO THAT IS THE CONFLICT OF 361 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,240 INTEREST STATEMENT. 362 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,560 ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? 363 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:17,120 TERRIFIC. 364 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,080 IN THAT CASE, WE ARE GOING TO GO 365 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,320 ON TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. 366 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,960 SO IF EVERYONE CAN TURN THEIR 367 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:26,720 CAMERAS OFF, THAT WOULD BE 368 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:26,960 GREAT. 369 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:27,640 ALL RIGHT. 370 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,360 AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR 371 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,560 ATTENDING THE MEETING AND FOR 372 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:31,920 ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON BEHALF OF 373 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,360 THE INSTITUTE. 374 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,160 I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON 375 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,520 SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE 376 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,560 BEEN GOING ON SINCE OUR LAST 377 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:41,240 MEETING. 378 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,640 VERY SAD ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT 379 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,480 LAURA GIBSON, WHO HAS BEEN SUCH 380 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,440 A TREMENDOUS FRIEND AND ADVISOR 381 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,080 TO THE INSTITUTE FOR A NUMBER OF 382 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,480 YEARS, WILL BE RETIRING FROM 383 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:51,920 COUNCIL. 384 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,360 IN FACT, IS RETIRING IN GENERAL, 385 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,120 SO WE WISH HER REALLY THE BEST 386 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,600 OF LUCK IN HER NEXT ADVENTURES, 387 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,400 AND THANK HER PROFUSELY FROM THE 388 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,720 INSTITUTE AND NIH FOR ALL THE 389 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,960 SERVICE SHE'S PROVIDED. 390 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,400 AS WAS MENTIONED DURING THE 391 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,480 INTRODUCTION, WE HAVE SEVERAL AD 392 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,680 HOC PARTICIPANTS. 393 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:17,040 MICHAEL CHAPMAN IS HERE WITH US, 394 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:23,760 AS IS NEIL GARG. 395 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,280 LAURIE KILPATRICK AND JERRY ARE 396 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,240 ALSO JOINING US AS AD HOC 397 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,520 PARTICIPANTS AND THEY INTRODUCED 398 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,960 THEMSELVES PREVIOUSLY. 399 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,400 AS WE HAVE DONE NOW FOR A NUMBER 400 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,600 OF YEARS, WE HAVE TWO EARLY 401 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,080 CAREER INVESTIGATOR AD HOC 402 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,840 PARTICIPANTS ON COUNCIL. 403 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,840 CATHY AND KLARISSA, WHO ARE 404 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,040 JOINING US, AND THE GOAL IS TO 405 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,000 GET THE PERSPECTIVES OF EARLY 406 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 CAREER INVESTIGATORS AS WE 407 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,320 DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE, AND ALSO 408 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,440 HAVE THEIR HELP IN TRYING TO 409 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,360 DISSEMINATE WHAT COUNCIL DOES 410 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,680 AND TRY TO DEMYSTIFY THE 411 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:00,480 ADVISORY COUNCIL PROCESS. 412 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,120 SO THANKS TO BOTH OF THEM FOR 413 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,080 AGREEING TO BE HERE. 414 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,080 I HAVE SOME COMINGS AND GOINGS 415 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,720 AT NIGMS TO ANNOUNCE TO YOU. 416 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,560 THE FIRST IS THAT I'M VERY 417 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:11,920 PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE DO 418 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,160 NOW HAVE A NEW DIRECTOR FOR THE 419 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,600 DIVISION OF GENETICS, MOLECULAR, 420 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,840 CELLULAR AND DEVELOPMENTAL 421 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:18,600 BIOLOGY. 422 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,000 YOU MAY RECALL THAT WHEN DORIT 423 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,200 SAN FRANCISCO ZUK WAS APPOINTED 424 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,840 TO BE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF NIGMS 425 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,440 IT LEFT A WHOLE IN GDBMS. 426 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,680 SHAWN GAILLARD HAS BEEN SELECTED 427 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:35,000 AND APPOINTED AS NEW DIRECTOR. 428 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,880 SHE HAD BEEN SERVING AS ACTING 429 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,960 DIRECTOR FOR A YEAR. 430 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,320 SHE JOINED -- OR RE-JOINED, I 431 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,760 SHOULD SAY, NIGMS IN GMCDB AS 432 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,880 THE CHIEF OF THE DEVELOPMENTAL 433 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,360 AND CELLULAR PROCESSES BRANCH IN 434 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,800 2019, AND ALSO IN ADDITION TO 435 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,200 BEING THE BRANCH CHIEF, WAS 436 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,760 OVERSEEING GRANTS THAT WERE 437 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,480 FOCUSED ON ORGANIST MALLORY 438 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,040 SPONS TO ENVIRONMENTAL 439 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:56,360 STRESSORS. 440 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,000 PRIOR TO THAT SHE WAS AT NIAID 441 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,760 AND PRIOR TO THAT SHE WAS AT 442 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,400 NIGMS IN OUR TRAINING WORKFORCE 443 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,600 DEVELOPMENT AND DIVERSITY 444 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,560 DIVISION. 445 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,720 SHAWN EARNED A BACHELOR'S DEGREE 446 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,320 IN NATURAL SCIENCES WITH A 447 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,120 CONCENTRATION IN CHEMISTRY FROM 448 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,000 SPELLMAN COLLEGE, MAKING HER ONE 449 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,840 OF AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR NIGMS 450 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,040 STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE SPELLMAN 451 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,800 GRADUATES, AND A PH.D. IN 452 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,640 BIOLOGY FROM HOWARD UNIVERSITY 453 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,760 AND DID POSTDOCTORAL WORK HERE 454 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,200 AT THE NIH. 455 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,240 SO WE ARE REALLY, REALLY PLEASED 456 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,800 TO HAVE SHAWN IN THIS NEW 457 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,640 LEADERSHIP POSITION, AND I KNOW 458 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,840 YOU WILL ALL LOOK FORWARD TO 459 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,160 WORKING WITH HER AS WELL. 460 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,560 SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 461 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,600 A NUMBER OF OTHER NEW HIRES AT 462 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,360 NIGMS. 463 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,600 THE FIRST IS A NEW POSITION, THE 464 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,720 SMALL BUSINESS STRATEGY 465 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,600 COORDINATOR, WHICH IS A NEW 466 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,760 POSITION THAT WE CREATED IN IN 467 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,680 ORDER TO HELP COORDINATE AND 468 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,440 OPTIMIZE THE INSTITUTE'S 469 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,280 STRATEGY FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS 470 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,360 PROGRAMS, AND I'M REALLY PLEASED 471 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,640 TO ANNOUNCE THAT EDDIE 472 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,600 BILLINGSLEY IS THE STRATEGY 473 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,800 COORDINATOR FOR NIGMS. 474 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,960 THIS POSITION IS IN THE OFFICE 475 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,480 OF THE DIRECTOR AND REPORTS TO 476 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,160 THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE 477 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,720 INSTITUTE. 478 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,840 I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE PRIOR TO 479 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,520 THIS OF WORKING WITH EDDIE ON 480 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,160 THE UNITE INITIATIVE AND GOT TO 481 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,280 KNOWS HIS TREMENDOUS TALENTS SO 482 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,800 WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY TO BE ABLE 483 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,440 TO RECRUIT HIM HERE INTO THIS 484 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,560 POSITION WHERE HE'S GOING TO SET 485 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,680 THE STRATEGY FOR OUR SMALL 486 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,400 BUSINESS PROGRAMS. 487 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,040 WE'RE ALSO VERY LUCKY TO HAVE 488 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,320 JASON CHAN JOINING US AS A 489 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,320 SCIENTIFIC REVIEW OFFICER. 490 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,280 JASON COMES TO US FROM MARIAN 491 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,400 COLLEGE, WHERE HE WAS AN 492 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,840 ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF BIOLOGY, 493 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,240 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING 494 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,720 HIM HELP WITH THE VERY IMPORTANT 495 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,040 REVIEW ACTIVITIES DONE BY OUR 496 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,520 SCIENTIFIC REVIEW BRANCH. 497 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,840 SHANNON DOYLE HAS JOINED AS A 498 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,320 HEALTH POLICY ANALYST IN OUR 499 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,240 DIVISION OF EXTRAMURAL 500 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,760 ACTIVITIES WORKING WITH ERICA 501 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,880 BROWN AND DARREN, AND SHE COMES 502 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,480 TO US FROM THE NCI. 503 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,160 WE ALSO HAVE A NEW DEPUTY 504 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,200 EXECUTIVE OFFICER WITH THE 505 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,960 RETIREMENT OF VICKIE SUTHERS. 506 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,920 WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE 507 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,920 RECRUITED GENERAL FERL HERE TO 508 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,800 WORK WITH SALLY LI, OUR 509 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:08,360 EXECUTIVE OFFICER. 510 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,840 SHE COMES TO US FROM THE OFFICE 511 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,240 OF THE DIRECTOR, WHERE SHE WAS 512 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,680 THE DEPUTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER 513 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,080 THERE, SO SHE HAS TREMENDOUS 514 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,960 EXPERIENCE THAT IS GOING TO BE 515 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:23,520 VERY USEFUL TO THE INSTITUTE. 516 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,760 LESLIE NICHOLS IS A NEW GRANT 517 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,600 SPECIALIST. 518 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,640 SHE COMES TO US FROM NIDA AND 519 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,600 WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE HER 520 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,720 JOINING THE TEAM HERE AT NIGMS. 521 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,440 KATIE PATEL HAS JOINED AS A 522 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:42,080 HEALTH SCIENTIST DATA SCIENTIST 523 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,680 WITH THE DIVISION OF MODELING 524 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,640 AND ANALYTICS BRANCH. 525 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,240 KATIE COMES TO US FROM THE 526 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,800 OFFICE OF EXTRAMURAL RESEARCH IN 527 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,160 THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR, 528 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,560 WHERE SHE WAS INTEGRAL IN A 529 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,880 NUMBER OF VERY IMPORTANT DATA 530 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,320 ANALYTICS PROJECTS AND MANAGING 531 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,480 MUCH OF WHAT IS INSIDE OF THE 532 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,080 IMPACT TO DATABASE, WHICH IS THE 533 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,720 DATABASE OF ALL OF NIH'S GRANTS 534 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,480 AND APPLICATION INFORMATION SO 535 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,360 WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE 536 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:14,400 RECRUITED SOMEONE WITH HER 537 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,400 EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE. 538 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,800 NEW PROGRAM DIRECTOR IN OUR 539 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,400 RESEARCH ADVANCEMENTS BRANCH IN 540 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,120 DIVISION OF RESEARCH CAPACITY 541 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,080 BUILDING, COMING FROM NIAMS, 542 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,560 WHERE SHE WAS A PROGRAM ANALYST. 543 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,720 VERY PLEASED TO HAVE HER AS 544 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,040 WELL. 545 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,520 WE HAVE ALSO RECRUITED BRIAN 546 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,240 KAY, WHO IS AN ECONOMIST, AND 547 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,240 WILL BE WORKING IN THE DATA 548 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,160 MODELING AND ANALYTICS BRANCH IN 549 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,680 OUR DIVISION OF MODELING AND 550 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,000 ANALYTICS, AND HE COMES TO US 551 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,840 FROM THE CDC AND NIOSH, WHERE HE 552 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,600 WAS ALSO WORKING AS AN 553 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:45,960 ECONOMIST. 554 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,640 SO THAT'S GOING TO BRING AN 555 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,440 IMPORTANT NEW DIRECTION OR 556 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,640 DIMENSION TO THE INSTITUTE IN 557 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,440 TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO CONDUCT 558 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,960 EVALUATIONS AND ANALYSES OF OUR 559 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,280 PROGRAMS AND THE OUTCOMES OF 560 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,120 THOSE PROGRAMS. 561 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:04,640 WE'RE ALSO VERY PLEASED TO 562 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,040 ANNOUNCE THAT K CAMILLA RASHEED 563 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,000 HAS JOINED AS A SENIOR HEALTH 564 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,800 POLICY SCIENTIST IN DIMA AS 565 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,800 WELL, THE DATA INTEGRATION AND 566 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,920 DISSEMINATION BRANCH. 567 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,800 CAMILLA WAS WORKING PREVIOUSLY 568 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,800 IN THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR, 569 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,640 WHERE AS FAR AS I COULD TELL, 570 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,040 SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF JUST ABOUT 571 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,400 EVERYTHING, SO I'M NOT QUITE 572 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,240 SURE HOW THE NIH OFFICE OF THE 573 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,760 DIRECTOR IS GOING TO SURVIVE HER 574 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,480 LEAVING, BUT THAT'S THEIR 575 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,480 PROBLEM AND NOT OUR PROBLEM. 576 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,880 SO VERY PLEASED TO HAVE HER 577 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,880 JOINING US HERE. 578 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,080 THEN TROY ZARCONE HAS JOINED 579 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,040 ALSO DMA AS A DATA SCIENTIST. 580 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,720 PRIOR TO THIS, TROY WAS AT NIDA, 581 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,280 WHERE HE RAN THE OFFICE OF 582 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,000 EXTRAMURAL POLICY, AND HE'LL BE 583 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,120 WORKING -- USING HIS EXPERTISE 584 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:49,360 IN DASHBOARDING TO HELP THE 585 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,160 INSTITUTE FOLLOW THE OUTCOMES OF 586 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,400 OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND MANY OF 587 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,520 OUR OTHER INTERNAL NEEDS IN 588 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,560 TERMS OF DASHBOARDS. 589 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,000 I'M ALSO VERY PLEASED TO 590 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,520 ANNOUNCE A PROMOTION. 591 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,080 THIS IS ANOTHER OF OUR STRATEGY 592 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,120 COORDINATOR POSITIONS WITHIN THE 593 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:06,120 OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR THAT WE 594 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:08,440 HAVE RECENTLY CREATED. 595 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,200 THIS ONE, THE DATA SCIENCE 596 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,280 STRATEGY COORDINATOR, AND VERY 597 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,240 PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT NATHAN 598 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,800 MOORE, WHO MANY OF YOU KNOW WHO 599 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,040 PREVIOUSLY WAS IN DMA AS A DATA 600 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,840 SCIENTIST, HAS MOVED INTO THAT 601 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,240 POSITION AND WILL BE HELPING THE 602 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,000 INSTITUTE SET ITS STRATEGY AND 603 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,440 COORDINATE DATA SCIENCE 604 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,360 ACTIVITY, BOTH INTERNALLY AND IN 605 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,160 TERMS OF OUR EXTRAMURAL 606 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,160 PROGRAMS. 607 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,800 SO IT'S GREAT TO HAVE NATE IN 608 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,000 THIS NEW POSITION FOR THE 609 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,840 INSTITUTE. 610 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,040 OF COURSE THERE ARE DEPARTURES 611 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,880 AS WELL. 612 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,080 AND WE'RE SAD TO SEE THESE 613 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,920 PEOPLE MOVE ON ALTHOUGH MANY ARE 614 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,120 TAKING PROMOTIONS AT OTHER 615 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:46,560 INSTITUTES. 616 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,640 PATRICK BROWN, WHO PREVIOUSLY 617 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,600 WAS IN OUR TRAINING WORKFORCE 618 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:51,640 DEVELOPMENT AND DIVERSITY 619 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,880 DIVISION HAS MOVED TO THE 620 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,240 NATIONAL CENTER FOR ADVANCING 621 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,000 TRANSLATIONAL SCIENCES. 622 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 WE WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK 623 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,520 THERE. 624 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,800 OF TONY CARTER, VERY 625 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,320 LONG-SERVING PROGRAM OFFICER IN 626 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,640 GMCDB, WHO MANY OF YOU KNOW, 627 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,000 RETIRED AND IS GOING TO BE, AS 628 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,240 FAR AS I CAN TELL, TRAVELING THE 629 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,320 WORLD, AND WE REALLY LOOK 630 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,080 FORWARD TO SEEING WHERE HE GOES 631 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,800 AND WHAT HE LEARNS THERE. 632 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,840 DIMITRI KREPKE, PREVIOUSLY IN 633 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,240 THE BBCB DIVISION ALSO 634 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,160 TRANSFERRED TO DIVISION FOR 635 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,480 ADVANCING TRANSLATIONAL SCIENCES 636 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,880 AND WE HOPE HE HAS A LOT OF 637 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,800 SUCCESS THERE. 638 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,400 KNOWN TO US AS RABI ALSO IN THE 639 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,920 B BCB DIVISION HAS MOVED ON TO 640 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,440 THE NATIONAL LIBRARY OF 641 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:36,680 MEDICINE. 642 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,440 WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH 643 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,920 HIM IN HIS ROLE THERE. 644 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,080 LUMI ADAMS, WHO WAS IN THE 645 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,680 DIVISION OF RESEARCH CAPACITY 646 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,000 BUILDING, HAS MOVED TO THE 647 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,720 NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR 648 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,600 NEUROLOGICAL DISORDERS AND 649 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,480 STROKE, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE 650 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,320 ABLE TO CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE 651 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,560 WITH HER IN THAT NEW ROLE. 652 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,240 PEGGY SCHNOR, INTEGRAL MEMBER OF 653 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,800 DMA, HAS RETIRED AS HAS I 654 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,400 MENTIONED VICK KEY SUTHERS WHO 655 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,800 WORKED CLOSELY WITH SALLY LI IN 656 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,240 THAT CAPACITY. 657 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,840 NOW, SOME COMINGS AND GOINGS 658 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,320 NIH-WIDE. 659 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,600 AS I THINK I REPORTED LAST TIME, 660 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,080 MICHAEL GOTTESMAN, THE LONG 661 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,800 SERVING DIRECTOR OF INTRAMURAL 662 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,640 RESEARCH AT NIH HA HAS RETIRED. 663 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,480 REPLACED BY KNEE THAT SCHOR. 664 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,320 SHE WILL BE LEAVING NIH'S 665 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,280 INTRAMURAL RESEARCH PROGRAM AND 666 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,680 WILL WORK TO FACILITATE 667 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,120 COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION 668 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:39,320 AMONG THE 24 INSTITUTES AND 669 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,160 CENTERS THAT HAVE INTRAMURAL 670 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,800 RESEARCH COMPONENTS. 671 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,640 SHE BRINGS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE 672 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,960 TO THE JOB AS AN EDUCATOR, 673 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,240 SCIENTIST, CLINICIAN AND 674 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:52,560 ADMINISTRATOR. 675 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,440 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING 676 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,080 WITH HER MOSTLY THROUGH OUR 677 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,720 POSTDOCTORAL PROGRAM, WHICH IS 678 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,880 NIGMS'S ONLY INTRAMURAL 679 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,960 COMPONENT. 680 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,040 VERY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT 681 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,240 FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE JONI RUTTER 682 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,920 HAS BEEN APPOINTED DIRECTOR OF 683 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,800 THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR 684 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,920 ADVANCING TRANSLATIONAL 685 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,200 SCIENCES. 686 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,120 SHE WAS APPOINTED IN NOVEMBER, 687 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:16,000 AND SHE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN 688 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,880 SERVING AS NCATS' ACTING 689 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,920 DIRECTOR SINCE APRIL OF 2021. 690 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,640 PRIOR TO THAT SHE WAS DEPUTY 691 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,280 DIRECTOR OF NCATS. 692 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,800 SHE WILL BE OVERSEEING PORTFOLIO 693 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,440 OF RESEARCH ACTIVITIES FOCUSED 694 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,720 ON IMPROVING THE TRANSLATIONAL 695 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,720 PROCESS OF TURNING SCIENTIFIC 696 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,120 DISCOVERIES INTO HEALTH 697 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:35,560 INTERVENTIONS. 698 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,360 I CAN SAY HAVING WORKED CLOSELY 699 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:41,440 WITH JONI IN THINGS LIKE THE N3C 700 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,560 COVID DATABASE, IT HAS BEEN A 701 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,760 PLEASURE WORKING WITH HER AND I 702 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,280 THINK THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO 703 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,240 COLLABORATE QUITE CLOSELY WITH 704 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,200 HER IN THE FUTURE. 705 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,240 THEN OF COURSE A VERY NEW 706 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,240 COMPONENT OF NIH NOW HAS A HEAD, 707 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,440 AND THAT IS THE DIRECTOR OF 708 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,120 ARPA-H, RENE WEGSGREN. 709 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:06,520 SHE IS THE INAUGURAL DIRECTOR OF 710 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,160 ARPA-H, WHICH IS A NEWLY 711 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,800 ESTABLISHED ENTITY WITHIN THE 712 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,320 NIH ECOSYSTEM TO DRIVE 713 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,640 BIOMEDICAL INNOVATION TO SUPPORT 714 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,720 THE HEALTH OF ALL AMERICANS. 715 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,120 AS YOU MAY HAVE READ, ARPA-H IS 716 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,000 AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY WITHIN NIH 717 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,560 AND ITS DIRECTOR REPORTS 718 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,240 DIRECTLY TO THE SECRETARY OF 719 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,840 HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND IS 720 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,840 RESPONSIBLE FOR DRIVING -- SHE 721 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,480 WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DRIVING 722 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,480 THE AGENCY'S NASCENT RESEARCH 723 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,280 PORTFOLIO USING ITS BUDGET AND 724 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,560 IS EXPECTED TO SUPPORT A BROAD 725 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,520 RANGE OF PROGRAMS TO TAKE ON 726 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,640 CHALLENGING HEALTH PROGRAMS AND 727 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,600 HOPEFULLY YIELD HIGH REWARD 728 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,000 SOLUTIONS. 729 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,840 SADLY SOME DEPARTURES NIH-WIDE 730 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,120 TO ANNOUNCE, OUR WONDERFUL 731 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:52,600 COLLEAGUE ROGER GLASS, LONG 732 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,440 SERVING DIRECTOR OF THE FOGARTY 733 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,520 INTERNATIONAL CENTER, WAS 734 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,120 DIRECTOR FOR 17 YEARS, LONGEST 735 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,440 SERVING DIRECTOR OF THE FIC IS 736 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,200 RETIRING. 737 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,600 HE REALLY WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN 738 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,880 BROADENING ALL OF NIH'S GLOBAL 739 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,560 HEALTH FOOT PRINT. 740 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,320 HE PARTNERED WITH MANY 741 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,400 INSTITUTES INCLUDING NIGMS. 742 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,280 HE STEPPED DOWN IN JANUARY, 743 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,440 EARLIER THIS MONTH, OR LAST 744 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,600 MONTH, BUT HE'S GOING TO 745 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,600 CONTINUE TO SERVE AS SENIOR 746 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,920 SCIENTIST EMERITUS AT THE 747 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,640 INSTITUTE AT FIC FOCUSING ON 748 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,480 BOLSTERING DIVERSITY AND EQUITY 749 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,480 IN THEIR PROGRAMS AND WORKING 750 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,360 WITH NIH LEADERSHIP TO EXPAND 751 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,240 ENGAGEMENT IN GLOBAL HEALTH AND 752 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,080 REINFORCING EXISTING 753 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:39,880 PARTNERSHIPS ABROAD. 754 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,400 JOHN GALLIN WHO FOR MANY YEARS 755 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:47,520 LED THE CLINICAL CENTER AND WILE 756 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,800 RETIRING FROM FEDERAL SERVICE IN 757 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,400 MARCH. 758 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,120 HIS CAREER SPANS 50 YEARS AT NIH 759 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:56,040 AND HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN 760 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,040 DEVELOPING THE NIH CLINICAL 761 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,000 CENTER'S RESEARCH PORTFOLIO AND 762 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,120 IN DEVELOPING PROGRAMS TO TRAIN 763 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,840 THE NEXT GENERATION OF CLINICAL 764 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,880 RESEARCHERS. 765 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,240 WE WILL MISS WORKING WITH JOHN. 766 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,520 WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT 767 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,160 COLLABORATIONS WITH HIM, AND WE 768 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,880 WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK IN HIS 769 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,440 NEXT ADVENTURE. 770 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,160 NOW, LAST TIME I TOLD YOU OF A 771 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,240 COUPLE OF IMPORTANT NIGMS NAMED 772 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,360 LECTURES THAT WERE GOING TO 773 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:22,560 HAPPEN. 774 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,080 THOSE WERE THE JUDITH GREENBERG 775 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,000 EARLY CAREER INVESTIGATOR 776 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,440 LECTURE GIVEN BY CAESAR DELA 777 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,720 FUENTE AND THE DEWITT STETTEN 778 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,240 LECTURE GIVEN BY SALLY HODDER. 779 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,080 THOSE BOTH HAPPENED, THEY WERE 780 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,600 FANTASTIC, I HOPE YOU WERE ABLE 781 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,480 TO WATCH THEM LIVE OR WATCH THEM 782 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,680 AFTER ON THE VIDEOCAST SITE. 783 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,840 I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU WATCH 784 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,720 THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE BOTH 785 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,720 REALLY FANTASTIC LECTURES. 786 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,880 THE LINKS ARE THERE, YOU CAN 787 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,760 JUST GO TO THE VIDEOCAST SITE, 788 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760 SEARCH FOR THEIR NAMES AND YOU 789 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,920 SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THEM 790 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560 EASILY. 791 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,000 NOW, JUST THIS MORNING, I WAS 792 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,320 MADE AWARE OF AN ARTICLE THAT 793 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,200 WAS JUST PUBLISHED TODAY 794 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,200 DESCRIBING THE MOSAIC PROGRAM 795 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,160 AND ASBMB'S MENTORING CENTER 796 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,000 THEY'RE RUNNING TO SUPPORT THE 797 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,600 MOSAIC SCHOLARS. 798 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,080 IT IS A WONDERFUL ARTICLE, 799 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,400 REALLY WELL WRITTEN, I THINK 800 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,320 VERY INSIGHTFUL, AND I WOULD 801 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,240 STRONGLY URGE ALL FL YOU TO READ 802 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:21,680 IT. 803 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720 IT SHOWS THE IMPACT THAT THE 804 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,720 MOSAIC PROGRAM IS HAVING. 805 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,000 I THINK TALKS ABOUT THE NICHE 806 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,520 THAT IT FILLED AND WHY A PROGRAM 807 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,560 SUCH AS THIS TO BRIDGE THE GAP 808 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,560 BETWEEN DIFFERENT CAREER STAGES 809 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,040 ARE SO IMPORTANT. 810 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,400 SO AGAIN, I COMMEND THIS ARTICLE 811 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,680 TO ALL OF YOUR ATTENTION. 812 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,640 VERY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE TO YOU 813 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,120 THAT THE LEAD, THE LEADING 814 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,880 EQUITY AND ADVANCING DIVERSITY 815 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,120 MSTP MEDICAL SCIENCE TRAINING 816 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:52,200 PROGRAM FOA HAS BEEN PUBLISHED. 817 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,680 THE NUMBER IS SHOWN THERE. 818 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,720 COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY WAS 819 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,120 INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US 820 00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,320 DEVELOP THIS PROGRAM. 821 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,920 THIS IS A SECOND BRANCH OF THE 822 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,440 FAMOUS MEDICAL SCIENTIST 823 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,760 TRAINING PROGRAM THAT NIGMS RUNS 824 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040 WHICH FUNDS DUAL DEGREE 825 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,640 CLINICIAN-SCIENTIST TRAINING 826 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,960 ACROSS THE COUNTRY, FOR 827 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,760 INSTANCE, MD PH.D. TRAINING, 828 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,840 D.O. PH.D. TRAINING, ET CETERA. 829 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,640 WITH THE PARTICULAR GOAL OF LEAD 830 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520 MSDP IS TO SUPPORT THAT 831 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,360 DUAL DEGREE CLINICIAN-SCIENTIST 832 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:24,600 TRAINING WITH A GOAL OF 833 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240 BROADENING THE INSTITUTIONAL AND 834 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,520 GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE 835 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,400 AWARDS. 836 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,560 THE ELIGIBILITY OF LEAD MSDP AS 837 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,880 YOU MAY RECALL IS LIMITED TO 838 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,840 HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND 839 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,760 UNIVERSITIES, TRIBAL COLLEGES 840 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,640 AND UNIVERSITIES, AND IDEA-STATE 841 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,320 INSTITUTIONS. 842 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,400 THE FIRST DUE DATE IS RAPIDLY 843 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,960 APPROACHING, IT'S FEBRUARY 10TH, 844 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,800 2023, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET 845 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,640 AT LEAST A FEW STRONG 846 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,160 APPLICATIONS FOR THAT DUE DATE, 847 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,800 BUT WE WILL HAVE A YEARLY DUE 848 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,120 DATE IN JANUARY THEREAFTER. 849 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,520 SO WE WOULD REALLY LIKE YOUR 850 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,400 HELP IN SPREADING THE WORD TO 851 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,800 ELIGIBLE INSTITUTIONS. 852 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,560 UNDERSTANDABLY IT'S PROBABLY TOO 853 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,520 LATE FOR THIS COMING DUE DATE, 854 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,520 BUT INSTITUTION ALSO HAVE A YEAR 855 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,360 NOW TO PREPARE APPLICATIONS IF 856 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:09,720 THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GET ONE IN 857 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,960 FOR THIS DUE DATE AND SO, AGAIN, 858 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,920 YOUR HELP SPREADING THE WORD TO 859 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,960 ELIGIBLE INSTITUTIONS AND 860 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,800 ENCOURAGING THEM TO APPLY TO 861 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,600 THIS FUNDING OPPORTUNITY 862 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,600 ANNOUNCEMENT WILL BE VERY 863 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,400 IMPORTANT. 864 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,480 I THINK THIS PROGRAM WILL MAKE A 865 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,160 SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN BROADENING 866 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,640 THE DISTRIBUTION OF 867 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,880 CLINICIAN-SCIENTISTS ACROSS THE 868 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,160 COUNTRY, AND BROADENING THE 869 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,680 COMMUNITIES WHICH THEY'RE DRAWN 870 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,040 FROM AND WHICH THEY SERVE. 871 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,320 SO PLEASE, HELP US GET THE WORD 872 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:42,680 OUT ABOUT THAT. 873 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,120 I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE 874 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,480 UPDATE ON ANOTHER PROGRAM, THE 875 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,000 SUPPORT FOR RESEARCH EXCELLENCE 876 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,440 OR SRE PROGRAM. 877 00:28:52,440 --> 00:29:01,600 YOU MAY RECALL SCORE, PAM SACKS 878 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,680 WAS AN INTEGRAL MEMBER OF THAT 879 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,080 TEAM. 880 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:11,400 WE ACTUALLY ENDED THE SCORE 881 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,920 PROGRAM AND REPLACED IT WITH 882 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,840 SRE. 883 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,800 SO THE GOAL OF SURE IS TO 884 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,680 SUPPORT RESEARCH EXCELLENCE AT 885 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,800 AN INSTITUTION, INSTEAD OF THE 886 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,080 OLD GOAL OF SCORE, WHICH WAS TO 887 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,840 DEVELOP FACULTY CAPABLE OF 888 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,880 COMPETING FOR R01 GRANTS AT 889 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,960 THOSE INSTITUTIONS, WHICH THE 890 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,480 EVALUATION SHOWED WAS NOT HAVING 891 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,880 SUCCESS BECAUSE OF THE -- IN 892 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,960 PART BECAUSE OF THE BROAD 893 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,680 DIVERSITY OF INSTITUTION TYPES 894 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,920 AND NEEDS THAT THE PROGRAM WAS 895 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:53,320 TRYING TO MEET. 896 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,040 THE SURE PROGRAM EMPHASIZES 897 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,240 STUDENT PARTICIPATION IN FUNDED 898 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,360 RESEARCH, WHICH IS SOMETHING THE 899 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,720 SCORE PROGRAM DID NOT DO. 900 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,160 IT'S AIMING TO CATALYZE THE 901 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,120 DEVELOPMENT OF RESEARCH CULTURE 902 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,760 AT APPLICANT INSTITUTIONS, SO TO 903 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,200 BUILD OVERALL THE CULTURE AT THE 904 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,680 INSTITUTION TO SUPPORT RESEARCH. 905 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,520 AND A VERY IMPORTANT GOAL THAT 906 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,480 WE HAD IN MOVING FROM SCORE TO 907 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,600 SURE WAS TO BROADEN THE 908 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,520 PARTICIPATION BY ELIGIBLE 909 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,560 INSTITUTIONS NATIONWIDE. 910 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,960 SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF 911 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,560 WHY THAT WAS IMPORTANT, ONE OF 912 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480 THE THINGS THAT WAS FOUND IN THE 913 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680 SCORE EVALUATION WAS THAT THERE 914 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,000 WAS A SORT OF DERTH OF DIVERSITY 915 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000 OF INSTITUTIONS THAT WERE 916 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,600 PARTICIPATING, SO FOR EXAMPLE, 917 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,200 IN 2019, IN THE SCORE PORTFOLIO, 918 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,680 THERE WERE 194 AWARDS TO 48 919 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,880 INSTITUTIONS. 920 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,200 65% OF THEM IN JUST THREE 921 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,960 STATES, CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK 922 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,560 AND TEXAS, AND ACTUALLY WHAT THE 923 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,200 EVALUATION FOUND WAS THAT A 924 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,080 MAJORITY OF THE AWARDS IN SCORE 925 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,240 WERE GOING TO JUST THREE 926 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,000 UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS, THE CAL 927 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,840 STATE SYSTEM, THE CUNY SYSTEM IN 928 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,360 NEW YORK AND UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS 929 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,840 SYSTEM. 930 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,720 AND WHILE THOSE ARE VERY 931 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,000 IMPORTANT AND IMPACTFUL 932 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:04,880 UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS THAT WE HOPE 933 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,840 TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT, 934 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,240 OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE MANY OTHER 935 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,880 NEEDY AND WORTHWHILE 936 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,520 INSTITUTIONS IN THE COUNTRY, AND 937 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,920 WE ARE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO 938 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,560 ADDITIONALLY SUPPORT THOSE 939 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,960 INSTITUTIONS BY BROADENING THE 940 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:27,760 PARTICIPATION THROUGH THE SURE 941 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,040 PROGRAM. 942 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,800 WE'VE ALREADY HAD -- I SHOULD 943 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,160 SAY FIRST JUST TO REMIND YOU OF 944 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,200 WHAT THE SURE PROGRAM LOOKS 945 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,440 LIKE, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT 946 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,640 COMPONENTS TO IT. 947 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080 THE FIRST IS THE SURE AWARDS 948 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,600 THEMSELVES. 949 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360 THESE ARE AWARDS WITH A NEW 950 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,120 ACTIVITY CODE R16, WHICH IS ONE 951 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,320 MORE THAN THE R15 AWARDS THAT 952 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,720 YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH. 953 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,800 THAT WAS ON PURPOSE BECAUSE THEY 954 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,800 HAVE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES 955 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,880 BETWEEN THE SURE AWARDS AND THE 956 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,560 AREA GRANTS THAT ARE R15s. 957 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,680 SO THESE GRANTS ARE $100,000 PER 958 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,120 YEAR IN DIRECT COSTS. 959 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,640 THEY'RE FOR FOUR YEARS, AND THEY 960 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,560 ARE RENEWABLE. 961 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600 WHICH IS ANOTHER DIFFERENCE 962 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,000 BETWEEN THE SURE PROGRAM AND THE 963 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,960 WAY THE SCORE PROGRAM WAS 964 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,280 ORIENTED. 965 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,120 THERE'S A SECOND VERSION OF 966 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,680 THOSE AWARDS TO SUPPORT FACULTY 967 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,760 RESEARCH WITH STUDENTS, AND 968 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,720 THAT'S THE SURE FIRST AWARD. 969 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,440 THESE ARE FOR INVESTIGATORS WHO 970 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,240 HAVE HAD NO PRIOR RESEARCH 971 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,280 FUNDING. 972 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,880 THEY'RE $125,000 DIRECT COSTS 973 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,080 PER YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS INSTEAD 974 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,480 OF THE 100K. 975 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,680 THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE OF 976 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,880 THE IDEA THAT THESE 977 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,840 INVESTIGATORS NEED A LITTLE MORE 978 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,520 SUPPORT TO GET THEIR LABS UP AND 979 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,040 RUNNING, YOU KNOW, BY EQUIPMENT, 980 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,560 BY REAGENTS, ET CETERA. 981 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,960 THESE AWARDS ARE NOT RENEWABLE, 982 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,160 BUT ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH THEM, 983 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,160 THEY CAN APPLY FOR THE REGULAR 984 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,000 SURE GRANT, WHICH AS I MENTIONED 985 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,480 ARE RENEWABLE. 986 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,920 AND THEN THERE'S THE SURE 987 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,160 RESOURCE CENTER, A COOPERATIVE 988 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,760 AGREEMENT, A U24, AND THE GOAL 989 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,720 OF THAT IS TO BROADEN 990 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,840 PARTICIPATION BY HELPING 991 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,680 INSTITUTIONS BUILD THEIR 992 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,880 INFRASTRUCTURE, AND BY TRAINING 993 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,720 AND ADVISING PEOPLE AT THOSE 994 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,040 INSTITUTIONS ON HOW BEST TO 995 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,240 BUILD THEIR RESEARCH CULTURE AND 996 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:13,920 APPLY FOR SURE GRANTS. 997 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,560 SO IN TERMS OF BROADENING 998 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,720 PARTICIPATION BY ELIGIBLE 999 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,040 INSTITUTIONS, THAT WAS A GOAL I 1000 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:19,680 MENTIONED, ONE OF THE THINGS WE 1001 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,880 DID IN DESIGNING THE SURE 1002 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,280 PROGRAM WAS TO ESTABLISH EASY TO 1003 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,400 FOLLOW INSTITUTIONAL ELIGIBILITY 1004 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,920 USING PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA. 1005 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320 THE OLD SCORE ELIGIBILITY 1006 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,080 GUIDELINES WERE VERY COMPLICATED 1007 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,400 AND OPAQUE, AND WE REASONED THAT 1008 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,240 BY MAKING THEM MUCH EASIER FOR 1009 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,000 AN INSTITUTION TO KNOW IF IT WAS 1010 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,160 ELIGIBLE OR NOT, THAT WOULD HELP 1011 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,840 INSTITUTIONS DECIDE THAT THEY 1012 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,920 WOULD APPLY BECAUSE THEY KNEW 1013 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,640 THEY WERE ELIGIBLE. 1014 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,080 WE'VE ALSO DONE EXTENSIVE 1015 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,360 OUTREACH ACTIVITIES, SO MING LEI 1016 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,800 AND HIS STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING 1017 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,840 VERY HARD TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY 1018 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,040 AWARE OF THIS PROGRAM. 1019 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,680 THEY'VE DONE PREAPPLICATION 1020 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,680 WEBINARS PRIOR TO EVERY 1021 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,440 APPLICATION DUE DATE SO FAR. 1022 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,360 STAFF HAVE MADE PRESENTATIONS AT 1023 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,400 MORE THAN 20 CONFERENCES TO MAKE 1024 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,480 PEOPLE AWARE OF THIS SURE 1025 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,360 PROGRAM, AND THEY'VE BEEN 1026 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,520 WORKING TO ENCOURAGE THE IDEA 1027 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,760 INBRE AFFILIATE INSTITUTION, 1028 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,120 WHICH ARE ALL PRIMARILY 1029 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,000 UNDERGRADUATE INSTITUTIONS, 1030 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,720 THOSE THAT ARE ELIGIBLE, TO 1031 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:16,520 APPLY TO THE SURE PROGRAM. 1032 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,880 AND THIS SEEMS TO BE HAVING SOME 1033 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,320 POSITIVE EFFECTS SO FAR, SO IN 1034 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,920 THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF SURE, 1035 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,000 FISCAL YEARS 22 AND 23, SINCE 1036 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,440 LAUNCHING THE PROGRAM, WE'VE HAD 1037 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,240 60 APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED FROM 1038 00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:33,320 37 INSTITUTIONS THAT HAD NEVER 1039 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,000 PARTICIPATED IN THE SCORE 1040 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,560 PROGRAM. 1041 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,840 SO THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE, 37 1042 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,240 NEW INSTITUTIONS HAVE MADE 1043 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:41,640 APPLICATIONS, ON AVERAGE, ABOUT 1044 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,400 TWO APPLICATIONS PER 1045 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,520 INSTITUTION. 1046 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,920 FROM THE 30 APPLICATIONS 1047 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,560 SUBMITTED IN FISCAL YEAR 22, 15 1048 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,560 ACTUALLY WERE SUCCESSFUL, SO 1049 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,320 THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SUCCESS 1050 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,080 RATE FOR THOSE INSTITUTIONS. 1051 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,560 30 MORE WERE SUBMITTED IN FY 23, 1052 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,320 AND OF COURSE THEY'RE UNDER 1053 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,960 REVIEW SO WE DON'T KNOW THE 1054 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,520 OUTCOMES THERE YET. 1055 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,720 BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY 1056 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:00,040 GOOD START. 1057 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,680 WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING TO 1058 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,920 BROADEN THE PARTICIPATION AND 1059 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,760 MAKE SURE INSTITUTIONS ARE AWARE 1060 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,720 OF THE PROGRAM, AND ARE 1061 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:11,880 ENCOURAGED TO APPLY TO IT. 1062 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,400 THE U24 SURE RESOURCE CENTER 1063 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,600 THAT I MENTIONED, WHICH HAS AN 1064 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,440 OVERALL GOAL OF SUPPORTING THE 1065 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,200 PROGRAM AND BROADENING 1066 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,160 PARTICIPATION NATIONWIDE, WAS 1067 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,000 AWARDED RECENTLY TO THE 1068 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,360 UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY, WITH 1069 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,560 BRETT SPEAR AND PAUL MURPHY AS 1070 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,640 THE CO-PIs. 1071 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,720 THE GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH AND 1072 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:32,800 STRENGTHEN OFFICES OF SPONSORED 1073 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,200 PROGRAMS THROUGH A SEED GRANT 1074 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,160 PROGRAM TO INSTITUTIONS. 1075 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,840 THAT'S, AS I'LL MENTION LATER IN 1076 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,120 ONE OF THE CONCEPT CLEARANCES, 1077 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,640 THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT NEED WE 1078 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,560 SEE IN UNDERRESOURCED 1079 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,120 INSTITUTIONS. 1080 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,280 THEY'LL ALSO PROVIDE TRAINING 1081 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,640 AND MENTORING TO FACULTY 1082 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,920 INVESTIGATORS ON HOW TO WRITE 1083 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,240 APPLICATIONS, AND ONCE THEY DO 1084 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,920 GET APPLICATIONS, HOW TO HELP 1085 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,880 RUN AND ADMINISTER THOSE 1086 00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,200 APPLICATIONS. 1087 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,280 THEN THEY WILL BE CONDUCTING 1088 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,240 NATIONWIDE OUTREACH BY THE PIs 1089 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,600 AND REGIONAL COORDINATORS AS 1090 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,480 WELL AS THE STEERING COMMITTEE 1091 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,320 OF THE CENTER TO KEY 1092 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,440 STAKEHOLDERS TO AGAIN ENCOURAGE 1093 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,720 APPLICATION AND HELP 1094 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:11,440 INSTITUTIONS APPLY FOR AND 1095 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,320 ADMINISTER THOSE AWARDS. 1096 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,960 THE PIs HAVE SET UP A VERY 1097 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,680 NICE GROUP OF PEOPLE TO HELP RUN 1098 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,280 THIS PROGRAM. 1099 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,760 THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THREE 1100 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,160 REGIONAL COORDINATORS SHOWN ON 1101 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,640 THE SLIDE. 1102 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,040 BRITTANY SMAWRLS, UNIVERSITY OF 1103 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,200 KENTUCKY, WILL BE HANDLING THE 1104 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,440 NORTH AND THE EAST. 1105 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,680 RUBY BROADWAY AT DILLARD 1106 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,440 UNIVERSITY WILL BE WORKING WITH 1107 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,320 THE SOUTH AND THE MIDWEST. 1108 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,760 AND ARICA LUBIN, UC-SANTA 1109 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,800 BARBARA WILL BE WORKING ON THE 1110 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,000 WEST. 1111 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,440 THEN THEY HAVE A STEERING 1112 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,200 COMMITTEE WITH SOME FAMILIAR 1113 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,120 FACES ON IT. 1114 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,560 JAMES NTAMBI FROM UNIVERSITY OF 1115 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,880 WISCONSIN IS ON THAT, CAROLYN 1116 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,800 BOHATCH FROM UNIVERSITY OF 1117 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,800 IDAHO, VERY FAMILIAR TO US FROM 1118 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,640 THE IDEA PROGRAM WILL BE 1119 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,360 PARTICIPATING, MICHELLE MARTINEZ 1120 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:07,600 IS ON IT, ZHU-ZHU FROM CUNY-YORK 1121 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,480 COLLEGE, AND REPRESENTING NIGMS, 1122 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,960 FED BERNAL FROM RESEARCH 1123 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,600 CAPACITY BUILDING. 1124 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,640 SO THIS A NEW MODEL TO SEE HOW 1125 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,480 FUNDING AN EXTERNAL CENTER CAN 1126 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,280 HELP FACILITATE AND COORDINATE 1127 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,480 THE ACTIVITIES OF ONE OF OUR 1128 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:25,960 PROGRAMS. 1129 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,560 AND I THINK IF THIS WORKS, IT 1130 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,240 WILL BE ABLE TO BE TRANSLATED 1131 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,120 INTO OTHER SITUATIONS, BOTH WITH 1132 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,960 OUR NIGMS PROGRAMS AND PROBABLY 1133 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,080 NIH-WIDE, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS 1134 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,920 A SORT OF MODEL THAT HAS BEEN 1135 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,640 DISCUSSED NIH-WIDE, AND I THINK 1136 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,840 MANY ICs ARE LOOKING AT TO SEE 1137 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,240 HOW WELL IT WORKS, AND IF IT 1138 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:53,680 WORKS WELL, IT MAY WELL BE 1139 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,600 REPLICATED. 1140 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,320 A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON 1141 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,640 SOME OF THE WORK THAT DRBC HAVE 1142 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,080 BEEN DOING TO BROADEN SUPPORT 1143 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,840 FOR IDEA STATES VIA 1144 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,040 PARTNERSHIPS. 1145 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,680 SO OF COURSE YOU'RE FAMILIAR 1146 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,960 WITH THE IDEA PROGRAM THAT NIGMS 1147 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,080 RUNS THAT SUPPORTS RESEARCH 1148 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,920 EXATS IT BUILDING AND 1149 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,880 TRAINING -- CAPACITY BUILDING 1150 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,520 AND TRAINING IN STATES THAT 1151 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,600 HAVEN'T HISTORICALLY RECEIVED 1152 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,400 MUCH NIH FUNDING. 1153 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,280 ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM 1154 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,640 IS TO ATTRACT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT 1155 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,000 FROM OUTSIDE OF THE IDEA 1156 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,200 PROGRAM, AND I THINK WE HAVE 1157 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,640 BEEN QUITE SUCCESSFUL OVER THE 1158 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,680 LAST FEW YEARS IN GETTING A LOT 1159 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,760 OF INTEREST THROUGHOUT NIH IN 1160 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,680 HOW THEY CAN LEVERAGE THE IDEA 1161 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,560 PROGRAM TO BETTER SUPPORT THEIR 1162 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,280 GOALS. 1163 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,000 WITH A RECOGNITION THAT THERE'S 1164 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,400 A LOT OF STRENGTH AND TALENT IN 1165 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,560 THE IDEA STATES. 1166 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,720 SO ONE SUCCESSFUL COLLABORATION 1167 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:41,800 SO FAR HAS BEEN WITH THE OFFICE 1168 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,560 OF RESEARCH ON WOMEN'S HEALTH, 1169 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,960 ORWH, A FEW YEARS AGO IN FY 20, 1170 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,440 WE LAUNCHED A PARTNERSHIP WITH 1171 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,080 ORWH AND 16 NIH INSTITUTES AND 1172 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,600 CENTERS TO PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTS 1173 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,880 TO IDEA AWARDS FOR RESEARCH ON 1174 00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,440 WOMEN'S HEALTH. 1175 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,080 AND IN FY 20, THERE WERE 27 1176 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,280 APPLICATIONS, 19 AWARDS MADE. 1177 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,680 IN FY 21, 26 APPLICATIONS AND 15 1178 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,880 AWARDS, AND THIS YEAR WE'VE 1179 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,520 RECEIVED ACTUALLY 1180 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,480 42 APPLICATIONS, WITH AWARDS 1181 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:12,840 PENDING. 1182 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,400 SO SO FAR, A LOT OF POSITIVE 1183 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,480 RESPONSE TO THIS PROGRAM, AND I 1184 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,240 THINK IT IS STARTING TO MAKE A 1185 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:18,480 SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN 1186 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,720 CATALYZING RESEARCH ON WOMEN'S 1187 00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:22,000 HEALTH. 1188 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,920 ORWH HAS NOW SORT OF STEPPED UP 1189 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,400 EVEN FURTHER AND PLANS TO FUND 1190 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,040 AT LEAST ONE COBRE IN WOMEN'S 1191 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,960 HEALTH RESEARCH WHICH WILL 1192 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,800 SIGNIFICANTLY MOVE THE NEEDLE AT 1193 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,720 AT LEAST ONE INSTITUTION IN 1194 00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:36,760 TERMS OF INCREASING THEIR 1195 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,320 CAPACITY TO CONDUCT RESEARCH ON 1196 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,000 WOMEN'S HEALTH. 1197 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,520 SO GREAT PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE HAD 1198 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,160 WITH ORWH, AND ALL THESE OTHER 1199 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,720 INSTITUTES AND CENTERS. 1200 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:46,120 BUILDING ON THAT MODEL, THE 1201 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,960 OFFICE OF DATA SCIENCE STRATEGY 1202 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,080 AND THE NIH STRIDES INITIATIVE, 1203 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,760 WHICH IS RUN BY THE CENTER FOR 1204 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,160 INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND IS A 1205 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,800 PARTNERSHIP OR AN ARRANGEMENT 1206 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,160 WITH MAJOR CLOUD SERVICE 1207 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,480 PROVIDERS HAS DONE A NUMBER OF 1208 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,320 DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES WITH THE 1209 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,680 IDEA PROGRAM. 1210 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,240 THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDING FREE 1211 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:10,040 CLOUD COMPUTING TRAINING, SO FAR 1212 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,840 66-HOUR INTERACTIVE SESSION, 1213 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,320 EACH FOR 15 STUDENTS IN HOW TO 1214 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,360 USE THE CLOUD AND WORK IN THE 1215 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:16,560 CLOUD. 1216 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,360 THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US 1217 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,320 TO CO-DEVELOP CLOUD-BASED 1218 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,120 SELF-LEARNING TOOLS THAT WILL BE 1219 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,280 GOING INTO A CLOUD-BASED SAND 1220 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,600 BOX WHERE TRAINEES AND FACULTY 1221 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,680 CAN USE THEM TO LEARN DIFFERENT 1222 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,960 DATA SCIENCE APPROACHES FOR 1223 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,280 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH IN A CLOUD 1224 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,720 ENVIRONMENT. 1225 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:35,200 AND THEN AGAIN BUILDING OFF THIS 1226 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,120 ORWH MODEL, ODSS PLANS TO FUND 1227 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,840 AT LEAST ONE COBRE IN DATA 1228 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,480 SCIENCE FOR BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH, 1229 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,600 WHICH AGAIN WILL BUILD RESEARCH 1230 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,120 CAPACITY AT AN IDEA STATE 1231 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,440 INSTITUTION IN DATA SCIENCE. 1232 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,200 AND I SHOULD MENTION THAT NIGMS 1233 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,640 CERTAINLY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN 1234 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,920 FUNDING ADDITIONAL COBREs IN 1235 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,960 BOTH WOMEN'S HEALTH AND DATA 1236 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,440 SCIENCE SO IT'S NOT LIMITED TO 1237 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,040 JUST ONE. 1238 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,600 WE HOPE TO SEE MANY GOOD 1239 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:05,880 APPLICATIONS IN THOSE AREAS. 1240 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,880 ANOTHER PROGRAM THAP I WANT 1241 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,000 TODAY GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE 1242 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,600 ON THAT I THINK YOU'RE AWARE OF 1243 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,040 IS THE EXCELLENCE IN DEIA 1244 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,240 MENTORSHIP SUPPLEMENTS THAT WERE 1245 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:15,000 GIVEN LAST YEAR. 1246 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,080 THIS IS PART OF A NEW PROGRAM 1247 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,920 SUPPORTED BY THE CHIEF OFFICER 1248 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,120 FOR SCIENTIFIC WORKFORCE 1249 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,840 DIVERSITY OR COSWD, AS WE CALL 1250 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,000 IT. 1251 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,280 THAT'S MARIE BERNARD. 1252 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,040 HER OFFICE RECOGNIZES THAT 1253 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,080 OUTSTANDING MENTORING AND 1254 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,240 CONTRIBUTIONS TO ENHANCING 1255 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,560 DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND 1256 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,080 ACCESSIBILITY IN BIOMEDICAL 1257 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,400 SCIENCES IS A KEY GOAL FOR NIH, 1258 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,160 AND THEY SET UP A PROGRAM 1259 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,880 THROUGH WHICH PEOPLE WHO HAVE 1260 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,480 DONE SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITIES IN 1261 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,800 DEIA, PARTICULARLY IN MENTORING, 1262 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,080 COULD APPLY FOR SUPPLEMENTS TO 1263 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,200 HELP SUPPORT THOSE ACTIVITIES. 1264 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,600 AND IN 2022, 17 NIGMS GRANTS 1265 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,200 RECEIVED MORE THAN $3.7 MILLION 1266 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,920 IN THIS PROGRAM IN 1267 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,600 ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPLEMENTS. 1268 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,320 SOME OF IT COMING FROM COSWD, 1269 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,680 SOME OF IT COMING FROM NIGMS, 1270 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,160 ANDAND A NUMBER OF REALLY IMPORT 1271 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,120 ACTIVITIES WERE RECOGNIZED IN 1272 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,200 THIS WAY AND FURTHER SUPPORTED. 1273 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,920 APPLICATIONS FOR THE PROGRAM IN 1274 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,680 2023 ARE DUE FEBRUARY 17TH. 1275 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680 YOU CAN VISIT THAT URL IF YOU'RE 1276 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,560 INTERESTED. 1277 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,080 THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR 1278 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:23,720 IT. 1279 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,600 YOUR GRANT HAS TO HAVE SOME 1280 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:31,160 ASPECT OF MENTORING STATED IN IT 1281 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,240 OR IN OTHER WAYS RECOGNIZED IN 1282 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,000 IT ALREADY, BUT GO TO THAT 1283 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,680 WEBSITE AND YOU'LL FIND OUT THE 1284 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,280 REQUIREMENTS FOR APPLYING FOR 1285 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:45,520 ONE OF THESE SUPPLEMENTS. 1286 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,520 NOW A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED 1287 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,000 TO TEE UP FOR DISCUSSION IN THE 1288 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,240 Q & A IN JUST A MINUTE. 1289 00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:52,320 THE FIRST HAS TO DO WITH A NEW 1290 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,760 NIH ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE 1291 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,240 DIRECTOR WORKING GROUP THAT HAS 1292 00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:59,040 JUST BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND ITS 1293 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,160 GOAL IS REENVISIONING THE NIH 1294 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,520 SUPPORTED POSTDOCTORAL TRAINING 1295 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:03,960 ECOSYSTEM. 1296 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,960 SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ TO YOU 1297 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,240 ITS CHARGE ONE BY ONE, AND WHAT 1298 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,520 I'D LIKE TO DO IN THE DISCUSSION 1299 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,600 SECTION, SINCE I AM A MEMBER OF 1300 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,240 THIS WORKING GROUP, IS GET YOUR 1301 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,640 INPUT ON THIS OVERALL AREA OF 1302 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,400 NIH-SUPPORTED POSTDOCTORAL 1303 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,480 TRAINING AND HOW IT MIGHT BE 1304 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,560 REENVISIONED, AND I CAN TAKE 1305 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,840 YOUR THOUGHTS BACK TO THIS ACD 1306 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,280 WORKING GROUP AND HOPEFULLY 1307 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,160 REPRESENT WHAT NIGMS COUNCIL 1308 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,920 THINKS ABOUT THESE ISSUES. 1309 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,280 SO THE CHARGE STARTS WITH 1310 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,920 EVALUATING WHETHER THERE IS 1311 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,600 EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE 1312 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,560 PERCEIVED DECLINE AND SHORTAGE 1313 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,280 IN PH.D.-SEEKING POSTDOCTORAL 1314 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,920 TRAINING POSITIONS, AND THEN TO 1315 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,560 DOCUMENT TRENDS IN PH.D.s 1316 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,320 CHOOSING NON-ACADEMIC 1317 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,160 POSTGRADUATE EMPLOYMENT. 1318 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,680 ASSESS AND CONSIDER THE FACTORS 1319 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,120 INFLUENCING THE SCOPE AND 1320 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,200 PERSISTENCE OF THE ISSUE, 1321 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,040 INCLUDING COVID-19, THE ECONOMY 1322 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,480 AND INFLATION, TRENDS IN 1323 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,240 ACADEMIC JOB MARKET, TIME TO 1324 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:15,720 PUBLISH, IMMIGRATION POLICY, 1325 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,240 REVIEW -- FOR EXAMPLE, IN OTHER 1326 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:22,640 COUNTRIES OR OTHER SYSTEMS. 1327 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,280 CONSIDER WAYS TO INCREASE 1328 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,600 SUPPORT AND RETENTION OF 1329 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,680 POSTDOCTORAL TRAINEES ON KEY 1330 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,880 ISSUES RELATED TO QUALITY OF 1331 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,600 LIFE AND WORK/LIFE BALANCE 1332 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,400 CONCERNS. 1333 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,400 AND ENGAGE KEY PARTIES, BOTH 1334 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,480 INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TO THE 1335 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,240 NIH, TO UNDERSTAND AND 1336 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:41,800 STRENGTHEN THE U.S. POSTDOCTORAL 1337 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,240 TRAINING SYSTEM. 1338 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:43,320 SO THOSE ARE THE CHARGES. 1339 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,880 AGAIN, WHAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR 1340 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,240 FROM YOU IN JUST A MINUTE IN THE 1341 00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:50,000 DISCUSSION SESSION IS YOUR 1342 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,880 THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE. 1343 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,280 I MEAN, THIS IS BEING CALLED THE 1344 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,480 POSTDOC CRISIS, AND WE'D LIKE TO 1345 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,920 HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT BOTH 1346 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,320 FOR OUR OWN INTERNAL 1347 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,400 DELIBERATIONS ON WHAT NIGMS 1348 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,720 MIGHT DO BUT ALSO FOR ME TO TAKE 1349 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:05,960 BACK TO THIS WORKING GROUP AND 1350 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,880 LET YOUR OPINIONS BE KNOWN. 1351 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,080 THE OTHER ISSUE I'D LIKE TO GET 1352 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,720 YOUR FEEDBACK ON NOW IS ONE THAT 1353 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:18,400 HAS BEEN INCREASINGLY VEXING US 1354 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,320 OVER THE LAST YEAR OR MORE, 1355 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,440 WHICH IS HOW WE CAN IMPROVE 1356 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,680 COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESEARCH 1357 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,640 COMMUNITY. 1358 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,240 AND IT IS OUR PERCEPTION AND WE 1359 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,880 CERTAINLY DO HAVE SOME DATA, I 1360 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,400 THINK, THAT COULD BACK THIS UP, 1361 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,640 THAT IT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY 1362 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,840 DIFFICULT FOR US TO GET THE WORD 1363 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,280 OUT ABOUT OUR PROGRAMS, 1364 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,840 POLICIES, OUTCOMES OF OUR 1365 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,040 PROGRAMS, DATA THAT MIGHT BE 1366 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,320 IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY, ET 1367 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,400 CETERA, DESPITE PROBABLY 1368 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,640 INCREASED EFFORTS ON OUR PART IN 1369 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,120 TRYING TO DO SO. 1370 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,320 SOCIAL MEDIA CERTAINLY WAS 1371 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,880 THOUGHT TO BE THE WAY TO 1372 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,840 COMMUNICATE WITH WHATEVER 1373 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,360 COMMUNITY YOU WANTED TO 1374 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,560 COMMUNICATE WITH, BUT WE ARE 1375 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,680 FINDING A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN 1376 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,960 THAT SPACE, WHICH SEEM TO BE 1377 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,560 GROWING. 1378 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,200 ONE BEING THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS 1379 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,040 RIFE WITH MISINFORMATION. 1380 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,800 I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT, THAT'S 1381 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,840 IN THE NEWS GLOBALLY, BUT EVEN 1382 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,040 IF YOU LOOK AT THE MICROCHASM OF 1383 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,000 SCIENTISTS AND TRAINEES WHO ARE 1384 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,320 INTERESTED IN NIH OR EVEN 1385 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,160 PARTICULARLY NIGMS PROGRAMS AND 1386 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,240 POLICIES, WE FIND A GREAT KIEL 1387 00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:31,920 DEALOF MISINFORMATION AND MAYBEN 1388 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,040 OCCASIONALLY DISINFORMATION ON 1389 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,560 OUR PROGRAMS AND THAT MAKES IT 1390 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,400 QUITE CHALLENGING IN THIS SPACE. 1391 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,760 SO THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU 1392 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,000 THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR THOUGHTS 1393 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,200 ON ARE, WHAT ARE THE MOST 1394 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,800 EFFECTIVE WAYS FOR NIGMS TO 1395 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,240 COMMUNICATE WITH RESEARCHERS, 1396 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:47,320 WITH TRAINEES, WITH 1397 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,320 ADMINISTRATORS, AND WITH 1398 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,200 INSTITUTIONAL LEADERS, 1399 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,400 RECOGNIZING THAT THE STRATEGIES 1400 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,080 MAY DIFFER FOR EACH OF THOSE 1401 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,280 GROUPS, AND EVEN WITHIN THOSE 1402 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,760 GROUPS, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE 1403 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,200 SUBGROUPS THAT HAVE TO BE 1404 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,920 TARGETED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 1405 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,480 SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 1406 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,560 THAT'S IT. 1407 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,440 SO, IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR 1408 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,440 CAMERAS ON, WE DO HAVE TIME FOR 1409 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,840 SOME DISCUSSION AND I'D LIKE -- 1410 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:13,600 ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT 1411 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,040 IS FINE, BUT THOSE TWO THINGS AT 1412 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,640 THE END, I'D PARTICULARLY LIKE 1413 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,480 TO HEAR COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS ON. 1414 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:21,680 TERRI. 1415 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,640 >>NOT SURPRISED I'M FIRST. 1416 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,440 SO THIS IDEA OF COMMUNICATING IS 1417 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,680 A REALLY CHALLENGING ONE FOR 1418 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,440 EVERYONE, BUT AS WE'VE COME BACK 1419 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,520 IN PERSON WITH THINGS LIKE 1420 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,160 CONFERENCES AND AS YOU POINTED 1421 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,120 OUT THE ARTICLE IN ASBMB ABOUT 1422 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,200 THE MOSAIC PROGRAM IS, HOW CAN 1423 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,600 NIH CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH 1424 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,520 ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELPED TO GET 1425 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,480 THE MESSAGE OUT FOR FREE, RIGHT, 1426 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,520 THAT DOESN'T COST YOU ANYTHING 1427 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,200 TO DO THESE, INCLUDING 1428 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,840 ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE 1429 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,080 ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC AND LAND 1430 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:51,840 GRANT UNIVERSITIES, WHERE 1431 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,040 THERE'S A VERY STRONG WORKING 1432 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,800 GROUP OF VICE PRESIDENTS FOR 1433 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,240 RESEARCH BUT ALSO IN PARTICULAR 1434 00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,880 FOR SURE, ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE 1435 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:00,720 AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR STATE 1436 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,560 COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, WHICH 1437 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,800 GETS YOU IN FRONT OF A LOT OF 1438 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,600 THE INSTITUTIONS THAT YOU'RE 1439 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,760 LOOKING FOR IN THAT PLACE. 1440 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,520 THEY ALL HAVE EITHER NATIONAL 1441 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,960 MEETINGS OR WEBINARS, AND I'M 1442 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,800 WONDERING IF THAT IS A WAY TO 1443 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,160 AMPLIFY THE MESSAGE. 1444 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,040 MAYBE YOU'RE ALREADY DOING IT, 1445 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,960 BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT. 1446 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,320 >>I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, 1447 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,120 TERRI. 1448 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,760 WE DO DO IT WITH CERTAIN 1449 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,040 PARTNERS, BUT I THINK WE CAN 1450 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,680 BROADEN THAT. 1451 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,080 I THINK YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT 1452 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,440 POINT THAT WE SHOULD BROADEN THE 1453 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,880 ORGANIZATIONS WITH WHICH WE TRY 1454 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,840 TO PARTNER. 1455 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,040 DAVID? 1456 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,720 >>SO I HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR 1457 00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:36,680 BROADENING YOUR LOOK AT WHAT YOU 1458 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,760 CALLED THE POSTDOCTORAL CRISIS. 1459 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,640 AND THAT IS MY PERCEPTION IS 1460 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,840 THAT A LOT OF WHAT'S DRIVING THE 1461 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,960 DECLINE IN POSTDOCS IS THE 1462 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,240 EXPANSION IN THE BIOTECH 1463 00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:51,840 INDUSTRY, AND FROM MY 1464 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,200 PERSPECTIVE, I SEE MY GRADUATE 1465 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:53,960 STUDENTS GOING RIGHT INTO 1466 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,640 INDUSTRY. 1467 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,800 I THINK MAYBE THAT'S ACTUALLY A 1468 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,120 GOOD THING, BECAUSE IT'S NOT -- 1469 00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,760 IT SHORTENING THEIR TRAINING 1470 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,240 PERIOD AND GETTING THEM RIGHT 1471 00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:03,280 INTO A JOB, OFTEN A JOB THAT 1472 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,480 THEY REALLY WANT, SO I THINK YOU 1473 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,680 NEED TO MAYBE BROADEN THE 1474 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,880 PERSPECTIVE OF THE COMMITTEE AND 1475 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,920 ASK WHETHER THIS IS REALLY A 1476 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,120 CRISIS, IT SEEMS LIKE A CRISIS 1477 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,480 IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR POSTDOCS 1478 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,160 BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT FOR THE 1479 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,520 TRAINEES. 1480 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,360 >>I THINK THOSE ARE EXCELLENT 1481 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,320 POINTS, AND THAT HAS BEEN OUR 1482 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,520 PERCEPTION AS WELL, DAVID, THAT 1483 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,000 ONE THING THAT HAS HAPPENED IS 1484 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,840 THAT INDUSTRY IS INCREASINGLY 1485 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,480 TAKING PEOPLE STRAIGHT OUT OF 1486 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,240 GRADUATE SCHOOL INSTEAD OF 1487 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:32,360 REQUIRING POSTDOCS, AND I THINK 1488 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,560 YOUR POINT ABOUT IS THAT A 1489 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,360 CRISIS OR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IS 1490 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,480 THAT GOOD, IS THAT THE MARKET 1491 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,280 WORKING IS ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE 1492 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:41,600 CONSIDERED. 1493 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,680 I WILL JUST PUT ON THE TABLE FOR 1494 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,520 CONSIDERATION, MAYBE GET YOUR 1495 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,520 RESPONSE TO THIS, THAT WHEN I 1496 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,840 HEAR FROM DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS 1497 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,040 OR LISTEN TO THE DELIBERATIONS 1498 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,280 OF THIS ACD WORKING GROUP, AS 1499 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,000 YOU SAID, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR 1500 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,200 PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT YOUR 1501 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,520 OPINIONS ARE, IF YOU'RE A 1502 00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,640 GRADUATE STUDENT LOOKING FOR A 1503 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,280 JOB AND THE JOB MARKETS ARE 1504 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,160 GREAT, THAT'S NOT A CRISIS AT 1505 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:04,440 ALL. 1506 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,640 IF YOU'RE A P.I. WHO WANTS TO 1507 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,400 GET POSTDOCS, AS YOU SAID, MAYBE 1508 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,480 IT IS A CRISIS. 1509 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,280 ALTHOUGH WHAT I THINK I'M 1510 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,560 HEARING IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1511 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,960 PEOPLE WHO ARE USED TO HAVE BEEN 1512 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,920 LARGE LABS WITH LOTS OF POSTDOCS 1513 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,920 VERSUS EVERYBODY ELSE, WHERE 1514 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,400 EVERYBODY ELSE IS NOT -- THIS IS 1515 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,800 FOR YOUR REACTION, THIS IS MY 1516 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,400 PERCEPTION, MOST PEOPLE I'M 1517 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,360 HEARING FROM DON'T PERCEIVE AS 1518 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,640 MUCH OF A CRISIS AS PEOPLE WHO 1519 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,360 ARE USED TO HAVING 15 POSTDOCS 1520 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,280 IN THEIR LAB WHO SUDDENLY CAN'T 1521 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,080 GET 15 POSTDOCS. 1522 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,040 SO AGAIN, I'M SAYING THAT TO BE 1523 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,920 PROVOCATIVE AND HEAR YOUR 1524 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,000 THOUGHTS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE 1525 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,560 EXPECTATIONS MAY BE DICTATING 1526 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,280 WHETHER IT'S A CRISIS OR NOT, 1527 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,920 EVEN FROM THE P.I. PERSPECTIVE. 1528 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,240 >>I'LL JUST JUMP IN REALLY 1529 00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,880 QUICKLY AND SAY, MY LAB HAS BEEN 1530 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:00,880 REALLY DRIVEN BY GRADUATE 1531 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,280 STUDENTS. 1532 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,000 I'VE HAD SOME REALLY TALENTED 1533 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,240 POSTDOCS, BUT MOSTLY GRADUATE 1534 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:05,600 STUDENTS. 1535 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,280 SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SEEING 1536 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,920 THEM GO RIGHT TO INDUSTRY, WHEN 1537 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,880 THAT'S THEIR CAREER GOAL SEEMS 1538 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,080 LIKE A REALLY GOOD THING. 1539 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,520 I TO HAVE THE PERCEPTION IT'S 1540 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,880 HARDER TO GET POSTDOCS RIGHT 1541 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,760 NOW, BUT SINCE I MOSTLY TRAIN 1542 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,720 GRADUATE STUDENTS, THAT'S WHERE 1543 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:23,160 I COME DOWN. 1544 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:23,920 >>GOOD. 1545 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,520 LAURA. 1546 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,920 >>TO THAT ONE POINT AROUND 1547 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,840 RETENTION AND QUALITY OF LIFE 1548 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,080 BALANCE IN SORT OF DAY TO DAY 1549 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,720 ISSUES WITH THE POSTDOCS, WE 1550 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:38,200 REALLY HAVE CRANKED UP 1551 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,200 INTENTIONALLY THEIR INCLUSION IN 1552 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,680 FACULTY ONBOARDING AND MENTAL 1553 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,640 HEALTH RESOURCE AVAILABILITY AND 1554 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,640 JUST THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY PIECE 1555 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,040 BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE FINDING IS 1556 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,600 THEY FELT VERY LOST BETWEEN THE 1557 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,040 CRACKS. 1558 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:52,800 BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GRAD 1559 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,480 STUDENTS, THEY'RE NOT FACULTY, 1560 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,200 AND THE RESPONSE IN A RELATIVELY 1561 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,920 SHORT TIME TO THAT HAS BEEN VERY 1562 00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,520 POSITIVE. 1563 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,840 I GET THAT'S WHEN YOU ALREADY 1564 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,920 HAVE THEM. 1565 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,360 BUT KEEPING THEM HEALTHY, HAPPY 1566 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,400 AND PRODUCTIVE, THAT SEEMS TO 1567 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,560 HAVE MADE A LITTLE MORE 1568 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,640 DIFFERENCE THAN I WOULD HAVE 1569 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,720 ANTICIPATED ACTUALLY. 1570 00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:13,360 SO IT WAS AN ALREADY UP AND 1571 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,360 RUNNING PROGRAM, AND IT WAS 1572 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,240 REALLY JUST THE WELCOMING OF 1573 00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:19,520 THEM TO IT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, 1574 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,480 POSTDOC UNIQUE PROGRAMMING AS 1575 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,160 WELL, BUT REALLY HELPING THEM 1576 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,160 FEEL VALUED AND INTEGRATED FROM 1577 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,320 DAY ONE, WHEN THEY ARRIVED TO 1578 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:26,840 US. 1579 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,320 >>THAT'S FASCINATING. 1580 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,400 THANK YOU, LAURA. 1581 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,320 PAMELA. 1582 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,880 >>SORT OF PIGGY BACKING ON WHAT 1583 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,520 TERRI HAD RAISED EARLIER, IT'S A 1584 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,080 LITTLE BIT THE ADMINISTRATIVE 1585 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,400 APPROACH TO IMPROVING 1586 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,360 COMMUNICATIONS AND SOME OF THE 1587 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,680 LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE SURE 1588 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,800 PROGRAM. 1589 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,560 OF EXPANDING FROM AN 1590 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,400 AREA WHERE YOU HAD THREE STATES 1591 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,240 THAT HAD SYSTEMS WITH SHARING 1592 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:59,400 BETWEEN ADMINISTRATORS AND ONE 1593 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,800 OF THE STRIKING THINGS THAT I 1594 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,120 LEARNED DURING THAT PROCESS IS 1595 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,560 NOT HAVING A PARALLEL THING IN 1596 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,760 TERMS OF THE H BCUs, AND SO 1597 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,280 THEY ACTED AS INDIVIDUAL 1598 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,080 INSTITUTIONS, SO ANY WAY TO GET 1599 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,560 SORT OF THAT IN LINE, OR THE 1600 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,800 TRIBAL UNIVERSITIES AND 1601 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,760 COLLEGES, THE SAME KIND OF 1602 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,320 THING. 1603 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:28,000 IF SOME OF THOSE -- AND PERHAPS 1604 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,320 SOME OF THE EMPHASIS OF THE U24 1605 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,720 WITH REGARDS TO THE RESOURCE 1606 00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:33,520 CENTERS, TO HAVE THEM -- HAVE 1607 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,720 THAT AS A PIECE OF THE PIE IN 1608 00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:38,920 TERMS OF COMMUNICATION MIGHT BE 1609 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,640 HELPFUL AS WELL. 1610 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,720 >>THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. 1611 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,280 AND SHARING OF RESOURCES IN 1612 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,480 GENERAL IS AN ISSUE THAT'S GOING 1613 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,280 TO COME UP WHEN WE DO ONE OF THE 1614 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,720 CONCEPT CLEARANCES, SO I THINK 1615 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:50,680 HOLD THAT THOUGHT, BECAUSE I 1616 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,240 THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 1617 00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:55,800 MICHAEL. 1618 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:56,560 >>YES. 1619 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,200 SO ECHOING DAVID, ONE, MY 1620 00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,840 PERCEPTION IS THAT IT IS A 1621 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,040 PROBLEM FOR SMALL GROUPS AS WELL 1622 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,400 AS BIG. 1623 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,920 BUT THE BIGGER POINTS HERE ARE 1624 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,200 TO EXTEND ON FROM DAVID THAT 1625 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,000 THIS IS BAD FOR PIs BUT GREAT 1626 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,520 FOR TRAINEES THAT THEY'VE GOT 1627 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,320 LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES. 1628 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,520 I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY 1629 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,160 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT DATA THAT 1630 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,360 INDICATES THAT WE SHOULD BE 1631 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,160 OPENING THE SPIGOT ON PH.D. 1632 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,560 TRAINING, SO THERE'S A LARGER 1633 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,640 POOL. 1634 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,600 >>I THINK THAT'S PART OF, YOU 1635 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,800 KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT 1636 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,040 THROUGH, AND THE INTERESTING 1637 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,120 THING, OF COURSE, IS THAT 10 1638 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,760 YEARS AGO, THE CONVERSATION IS 1639 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,120 THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THIS, 1640 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,880 RIGHT? 1641 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,760 IT WAS TOO MANY POSTDOCS 1642 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,360 SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME DOING 1643 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,520 POSTDOCS, AND WE SHOULD REDUCE 1644 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,760 THE SPIGOT ON THE PH.D. SIDE. 1645 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,200 I GUESS WE HAVE TWO ECONOMISTS 1646 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,160 ON THE GROUP RIGHT NOW, SO 1647 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,920 THINKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IS 1648 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,400 IT WISE TO MAKE A CHANGE BASED 1649 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,000 ON CURRENT ENVIRONMENT? 1650 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000 BECAUSE WE COULD SUDDENLY 1651 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,520 INCREASE PH.D. PRODUCTION AND 1652 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,680 THEN TWO YEARS LATER, THE MARKET 1653 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,520 COULD CHANGE. 1654 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,760 SO HOW DOES ONE THINK THROUGH 1655 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,880 WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE 1656 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,200 AND WHAT YOU SHOULD DO NOW IS 1657 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,240 ALWAYS A VEXING QUESTION WHEN 1658 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:18,080 THINKING ABOUT TRAINING NUMBERS. 1659 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,960 LESILEE. 1660 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:20,560 >>HI. 1661 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,280 I WAS GOING TO ECHO WHAT DAVE 1662 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,760 SAID AND THEN WHAT MICHAEL JUST 1663 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,400 SAID, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE 1664 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,760 SUPPOSED TO BE SHUTTING DOWN THE 1665 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,160 SPIGOT A LITTLE BIT. 1666 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,440 THAT WE WERE TRAINING TOO MANY. 1667 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,800 SO I THINK MAYBE IT'S A GOOD 1668 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,240 THING. 1669 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:41,520 AND THEN I WILL ALSO PUT IN MY 1670 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:48,960 CURRENTLY CYNICAL VIEW, AND I 1671 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,040 THINK THIS DOES RELATE TO 1672 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,880 RETENTION IN SOME OF YOUR OTHER 1673 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,200 PROGRAMS. 1674 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,640 BUT SOME OF THE STUDENTS COMING 1675 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,720 THROUGH AT A PLACE LIKE DAVIS 1676 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,320 SEE THE JOB THAT I DO, AND THEY 1677 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,040 DON'T WANT TO GO INTO ACADEMIA. 1678 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,160 I HAVE A CURRENT STUDENT RIGHT 1679 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,680 NOW WHO WAS GOING TO DO AN 1680 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:04,880 ACADEMIC POSTDOC BUT PROBABLY GO 1681 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,640 INTO INDUSTRY, AND AT ONE POINT, 1682 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,520 SHE THOUGHT MAYBE SHE'D GO 1683 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,160 ACADEMIA, AND IT'S LIKE, WE ARE 1684 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,040 STRETCHED SO THIN WITH ALL THE 1685 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,600 COMMITTEE WORK AND THE TEACHING 1686 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,800 AND TRYING TO GET YOUR GRANTS 1687 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,280 RENEWED THAT I THINK THERE'S A 1688 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,520 LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SEE SOME OF 1689 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,840 US, AT LEAST, AND JUST GO, I'M 1690 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,560 GOING TO GO INTO INDUSTRY AND 1691 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,120 HAVE A BETTER WORK/LIFE BALANCE. 1692 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,760 AND I THINK THAT REALLY DOES 1693 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,760 RELATE TO TRYING TO RETAIN THE 1694 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,240 DIVERSE WORKFORCE AS WELL. 1695 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:36,280 >>TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, 1696 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,680 KENNY GIBBS PUBLISHED A PAPER 1697 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,680 SEVERAL YEARS AGO LOOK BEING AT 1698 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:47,040 LOOKING ATTHOSE ISSUES, SHOWINGS 1699 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,240 DESIRE TO CONTINUE ON THE 1700 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,360 ACADEMIC TRACK DROPPED OFF 1701 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,880 BETWEEN GRADUATE SCHOOL AND 1702 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:53,320 POSTDOC. 1703 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,440 THAT WAS PARTICULARLY STRONG, I 1704 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,200 THINK, FOR WOMEN AND THEN EVEN 1705 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,560 STRONGER FOR -- AND MINORITY 1706 00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,720 GROUPS AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE 1707 00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,760 THE INTERSECTION OF WOMEN AND 1708 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,520 MINORITIES, THAT WAS THE 1709 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,240 STRONGEST EFFECT. 1710 00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:06,760 SO THERE'S DATA TO BACK UP WHAT 1711 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,640 YOU'RE SAYING. 1712 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,200 YES. 1713 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:19,280 JERRY. 1714 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,480 >>YEAH, THIS IS AN INTERESTING 1715 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,040 DISCUSSION. 1716 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,480 I MIGHT BE PIGGY BACKING A 1717 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,280 LITTLE BIT BUT MAYBE SOME OF THE 1718 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,360 RESEARCH YOU'RE PLANNING ON 1719 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,560 DOING CAN FOCUS ON THE 1720 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,120 ACTIVITIES PERFORMED IN THE 1721 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:29,920 POSTDOC COMPARED TO ACTIVITIES 1722 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,320 THAT FOLKS -- YOU KNOW, THEIR 1723 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,680 JOBS REQUIRE OF THEM WHEN THEY 1724 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,520 LEAVE THE POSTDOCS. 1725 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,160 FOR MY OWN RESEARCH, I SEE THAT 1726 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,440 THE SALARIES VARY QUITE A BIT. 1727 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,640 THE POSTDOCS RECEIVE VARY WITH 1728 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:47,760 THE DEGREE OF TASKS AND 1729 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,360 ACTIVITIES THAT THEY ENGAGE IN 1730 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,960 DURING THE POSTDOC CORRELATE 1731 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,240 WITH THE TASKS AND ACTIVITIES 1732 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,120 THEY ENGAGE IN SUBSEQUENTLY. 1733 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,680 THE PENALTIES CAN BE QUITE 1734 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,120 HARSH, AND I THINK THAT'S 1735 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,800 PROBABLY DISCOURAGING FOLKS TO 1736 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,160 THE EXTENT FOLKS ARE DISCOURAGED 1737 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,040 BY, YOU KNOW, LOW SALARIES AND 1738 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,320 LONG HOURS, DISCOURAGING FOLKS 1739 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,680 FROM PURSUING POSTDOCS AND 1740 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,760 PRODUCING RETURNS, THINKING 1741 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,080 ABOUT THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT THE 1742 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,160 NIH IS PROMOTING AND FUNDING NIH 1743 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,520 FUNDED POSTDOCS. 1744 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,040 COMPARED TO THE ACTIVITIES THAT 1745 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,520 THEY PERFORM AFTERWARDS IN 1746 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:26,840 EMPLOYMENT. 1747 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,240 >>I THINK THAT'S A REALLY 1748 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,320 IMPORTANT QUESTION. 1749 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,080 YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE BEEN ASKING 1750 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,280 IT INTERNALLY A LOT, WHO SHOULD 1751 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,800 BE DOING POSTDOCS AND FOR WHAT 1752 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:38,720 REASON, AND IF YOU START 1753 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,040 THINKING THAT THROUGH, THEN THAT 1754 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,520 CAN HELP INFORM HOW MANY 1755 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,560 POSTDOCS SHOULD THERE ACTUALLY 1756 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,880 BE, HOW MUCH SHOULD THEY BE 1757 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:47,440 GETTING PAID. 1758 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,640 THE CURRENT SYSTEM AS I'M SURE 1759 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,200 YOU KNOW HAS BUILT UP OVER TIME 1760 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,440 TO A PLACE WHERE POSTDOCS ARE A 1761 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,240 LOW PAID, YOU KNOW, CHEAP BUT 1762 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,160 HIGHLY TRAINED WORKFORCE, AND 1763 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,520 THAT APPEARS TO T POSSIBLY BE 1764 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,760 COLLAPSING AS A SYSTEM, AND SO 1765 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,720 THINKING THROUGH HOW TO REPLACE 1766 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,800 IT IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER THAT'S 1767 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,840 BEST FOR THE POSTDOCS, BEST FOR 1768 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,040 THE GRADUATE STUDENTS, WHO THEN 1769 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,240 CHOOSE NOT TO DO POSTDOCS 1770 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,560 BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTH THEIR 1771 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,440 TIME, THERE'S TOO MUCH 1772 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,080 OPPORTUNITY COST IN DOING IT. 1773 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,160 AND THEN -- BUT HOW DO WE STILL 1774 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,160 MAINTAIN A PRODUCTIVE SCIENTIFIC 1775 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,440 ENTERPRISE IN THAT REGIME, I 1776 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,320 THINK IS THE CHALLENGING 1777 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:33,880 QUESTION. 1778 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,240 ANGELA. 1779 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,640 >>HELLO AGAIN. 1780 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,760 I APOLOGIZE MY CAMERA IS T IS NT 1781 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,880 WORKING NOW. 1782 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,280 >>HMMI, COME ON. 1783 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,120 >>I BLAME THEM. 1784 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,000 I WANT TO ADD JUST TWO COMMENTS 1785 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,680 IN ADDITION TO THE RICH COMMENTS 1786 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:48,520 ALREADY BEEN MADE. 1787 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,080 ONE IS BACK TO THE ACD CHARGE 1788 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,920 AND I HOPE THAT THEY'LL CONSIDER 1789 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,680 A CAREER DEVELOPMENT LENS AND A 1790 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,800 WELLNESS LENS ON WHAT THEY'RE 1791 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,240 DOING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT 1792 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,520 IS NATURAL TO THINK ABOUT THE 1793 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,800 SUPPLY AND THE DEMAND IN 1794 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,160 POSTDOCS EBBING AND FLOWING, BUT 1795 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,640 I ALSO THINK WE CAN BENEFIT FROM 1796 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:13,240 A LOT OF THE RESEARCH ON LINDA 1797 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,280 PALOMI'S WORK ON VITALITY AND 1798 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:16,920 WHY EARLY CAREER PEOPLE ARE 1799 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,520 DRAWN TO PARTICULAR INDUSTRIES 1800 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:19,720 OR PARTICULAR ASPECTS OF THE 1801 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,800 WORKFORCE, AND SHE'S VERY CLEAR 1802 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,680 ABOUT FOUR FACTORS THAT REALLY 1803 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,680 DRIVE PEOPLE'S CHOICES TO STAY 1804 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,240 OR LEAVE, AND THAT'S RELATION 1805 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,080 SHIMS AND INCLUSION, VALUES 1806 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,560 ALIGNMENT, WORK/LIFE INTEGRATION 1807 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:32,320 AND INSTITUTIONAL SUPPORT. 1808 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,720 AND MOST OF THOSE FACTORS ARE 1809 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,280 THINGS THAT OUR POSTDOCS DON'T 1810 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,480 HAVE A LOT OF ACCESS TO FOR THE 1811 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,480 REASONS THAT LAURA JUST 1812 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,360 MENTIONED IN TERMS OF THEIR 1813 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,240 NO-PERSON STATUS AS EMPLOYEES. 1814 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,560 SO I THINK WE CAN BENEFIT FROM 1815 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,920 SOME OF THAT RESEARCH ON 1816 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,800 VITALITY AND JUST WANT TO DROP 1817 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,680 THAT ON THE IDEA TABLE FOR THE 1818 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,000 ACD AS THEY TAKE UP THEIR 1819 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:53,240 CHARGE. 1820 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:53,920 >>GREAT. 1821 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:54,920 GREAT POINT. 1822 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:55,920 REALLY GREAT POINT. 1823 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,000 I WILL CERTAINLY BRING THAT TO 1824 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,360 THEM BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU 1825 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,960 THAT THAT'S MISSING FROM THAT 1826 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,160 CHARGE. 1827 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,120 AND AS YOU SAID, IT GOES TO WHAT 1828 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,600 LAURA ACTUALLY HAS REAL WORLD 1829 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:09,600 EXPERIENCE NOW WITH THE EFFECT 1830 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:10,680 OF TRYING TO MITIGATE THOSE 1831 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,240 ISSUES. 1832 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,520 AMY. 1833 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,720 >>A COUPLE THINGS. 1834 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,400 FIRST OF ALL IT MAY BE GOOD FOR 1835 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,600 OUR STUDENTS TO GO RIGHT INTO 1836 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,360 JOBS, BUT I THINK THE POSTDOC 1837 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,240 EXPERIENCE IS REALLY IMPORTANT 1838 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,440 FOR SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO GO 1839 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,000 INTO ACADEMICS. 1840 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,680 I MEAN, A STUDENT IS NOT READY 1841 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,120 TO GO AND BE A PROFESSOR, THE 1842 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,960 POSTDOC AFTER THREE YEARS, LIKE 1843 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,240 THE CHANGES YOU SEE IN THESE 1844 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,960 PEOPLE, THEY ARE READY TO GO 1845 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,200 OUT, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT 1846 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,080 THAT WE KEEP THAT PIPELINE IF WE 1847 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,480 NEED PEOPLE TO KEEP DOING 1848 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,360 ACADEMIC RESEARCH AND TEACHING 1849 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,000 OUR STUDENTS. 1850 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,240 THE OTHER THING THAT YOU AND 1851 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,600 JERRY, I THINK, WERE ALLUDING TO 1852 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:48,680 IS THIS WHOLE BUSINESS OF THE 1853 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,880 SALARIES AND THE PAY, LIKE, 1854 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,880 OBVIOUSLY FROM -- THERE'S BEEN 1855 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,080 ALL THESE PUSHES TO PAY POSTDOCS 1856 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,640 MORE, YOU KNOW, GRAD STUDENTS 1857 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,400 TOO WITH ALL THE UNIONIZATION, 1858 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,920 AND I THINK IT'S -- YOU KNOW, 1859 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,320 PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST RUNNING A 1860 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,720 LAB WITH AN NIH GRANT OR TWO, 1861 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:06,720 IT'S -- I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST 1862 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:07,040 STUCK. 1863 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,560 THERE'S NO WAY TO PAY THESE 1864 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,320 PEOPLE OFF YOUR GRANT WHAT THEY 1865 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,000 SHOULD BE PAID. 1866 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,360 THEY COME IN TO THE LAB, THEY 1867 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,880 CAN'T GET THEIR OWN FELLOWSHIP 1868 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,080 RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T 1869 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,360 DONE ANYTHING YET, AND THEN 1870 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,760 THEY'RE JUST SORT OF IN THIS 1871 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,280 LIMBO WHERE, OKAY, THE P.I. CAN 1872 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,200 PAY THEM FOR A YEAR BUT -- UNTIL 1873 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,720 THEY GET A FELLOWSHIP. 1874 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,120 SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY 1875 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,800 CAN COME FROM, BUT IF WE WANT 1876 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,080 MORE POSTDOCS, WE HAVE TO PAY 1877 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,960 THEM MORE, BUT THE WAY THE 1878 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,640 SYSTEM FOR FUNDING JUST A 1879 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,040 REGULAR R35 OR R01 LAB, THERE'S 1880 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:42,880 JUST NO MONEY TO PAY A POSTDOC 1881 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,520 SALARY PLUS FRINGE, YOU KNOW, 1882 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,240 IT'S $100,000, THAT'S HALF OF 1883 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,200 YOUR R01 DIRECT COST SO I THINK 1884 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,280 IT'S ALL ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY 1885 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,640 IS COMING FROM. 1886 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:52,840 >>THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT 1887 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,720 CONSIDERATION HERE, WHICH IS, 1888 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,240 YOU KNOW, I DO HEAR QUITE A BIT 1889 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,680 OF SORT OF MAGICAL THINKING THE 1890 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,600 WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. 1891 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,120 THE PROBLEM OF NOT ENOUGH 1892 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,680 POSTDOCS IS TO DOUBLE THEIR PAY. 1893 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:06,840 AND DOUBLING THEIR PAY MAY BE 1894 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,680 THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE 1895 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,960 POSTDOCS -- FOR THE PEOPLE WHO 1896 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,120 SHOULD DO POSTDOCS, I'M NOT AT 1897 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,200 ALL OBJECTING TO THAT, THAT MAY 1898 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,400 BE THE RIGHT THING, BUT BECAUSE 1899 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,000 OF HOW MATH WORKS, IF YOU DOUBLE 1900 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,760 THEIR PAY, WE'RE GOING TO HALF 1901 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,160 THE NUMBER OF POSTDOCS. 1902 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,080 SO IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE 1903 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,160 NUMERICAL PROBLEM THAT PIs ARE 1904 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:25,600 FACING. 1905 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,240 IT MAY BE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT 1906 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,400 THING TO DO, BUT IT WON'T 1907 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,400 GENERATE MORE POSTDOCS BECAUSE 1908 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,680 IT WILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF 1909 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,360 MONEY, YOU KNOW, GOING TO HALF 1910 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,680 THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 1911 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,000 LET'S SEE. 1912 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,080 WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF TIME 1913 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,600 SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO FAST. 1914 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:44,920 WE'RE GOING TO GO MEL GO TO MEL. 1915 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,560 >>I'M STRUCK ON -- RELATED TO 1916 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,600 WHAT LAURA AND ANGELA BROUGHT UP 1917 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,040 ON THE AMAZING JOB THE MOSAIC 1918 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,320 PROGRAM IS DOING IN TERMS OF 1919 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,720 PROVIDING THAT SCAFFOLDING AND 1920 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,240 SUPPORT FOR POSTDOCS. 1921 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,040 ONE THING THAT STRIKES ME, 1922 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,160 IMAGINE AN AM APPLICANT WHO APD 1923 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,600 TO THE MOSAIC PROGRAM WHO MAYBE 1924 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,840 WAS JUST UNDER THE BAR AND, 1925 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,160 THEREFORE, DOESN'T GET ANY OF 1926 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,280 THAT SCAFFOLDING, MAYBE THEY 1927 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,000 DIDN'T HAVE AS GOOD MENTORSHIP 1928 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,280 IN WRITING A PROPOSAL OR JUST 1929 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,160 NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE 1930 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:09,480 SUPPORT. 1931 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,600 SO I SEE IT, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS 1932 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,720 APPLYING FOR THAT PROGRAM AND 1933 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,920 OTHER PROGRAMS WHO JUST -- PART 1934 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,120 OF THE REASON THEY CHOOSE NOT TO 1935 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,040 PURSUE A POSTDOC IS BECAUSE THEY 1936 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,120 GET DISCOURAGED INTEREST MAYBE 1937 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,640 GETTING BAD REVIEWS ON AN NIH 1938 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:22,080 GRANT. 1939 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,000 I WONDER IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO 1940 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,600 REACH OUT TO THOSE APPLICANTS 1941 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,800 WHO ARE STILL PROMISING -- IS 1942 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:30,440 THERE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT 1943 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:31,400 THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM? 1944 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,880 YOU ALL HAVE A UNIQUE DATABASE 1945 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,000 OF PEOPLE THAT APPLIED WEREN'T 1946 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,240 SUCCESSFUL, IS THERE SOME WAY TO 1947 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,080 PROVIDE SORT OF PUNCH ABOVE YOUR 1948 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,680 WEIGHT IN TERMS OF PROVIDING 1949 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:42,640 PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT 1950 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:43,920 EVEN IF YOU CAN'T FUND ALL OF 1951 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,080 THE GOOD APPLICANTS THAT YOU 1952 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:47,240 GET? 1953 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,600 >>THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 1954 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:49,800 WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS TO DO 1955 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:50,000 THAT. 1956 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,960 I KNOW THE STAFF DOES A LOT OF 1957 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,280 OUTREACH TO APPLICANTS WHO 1958 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,520 APPLIED AND AREN'T SUCCESSFUL. 1959 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,080 THERE'S PROGRAMS LIKE NRMN 1960 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,600 FUNDED BY NIH THAT WE RUN THAT 1961 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,320 HAS THAT AS ITS GOAL. 1962 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,600 BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS 1963 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,240 THAT COULD BE EXPANDED UPON. 1964 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,240 THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 1965 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:07,440 LAURIE. 1966 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,240 >>OKAY, I WILL BE QUICK. 1967 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,200 TO BUILD ON WHAT TERRI SPOKE 1968 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,160 ABOUT ON HOW TO GET YOUR MESSAGE 1969 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,480 OUT, ONE THING THAT I FOUND WAS 1970 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,600 VERY HELPFUL IS WHETHER FOLKS 1971 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,480 FROM THE DIFFERENT INSTITUTES AT 1972 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,280 NIH CAME TO MEETINGS, OUR 1973 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,160 MEETINGS, AND REALLY SPOKE ABOUT 1974 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:27,560 PROGRAMS. 1975 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,640 YOU KNOW, THAT WERE TAILORED TO 1976 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,920 SPECIFIC GOALS OF THE DIFFERENT 1977 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,840 SOCIETIES. 1978 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,400 AND I THINK THAT WAS A VERY 1979 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,040 POWERFUL WAY TO GET YOUR MESSAGE 1980 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,520 OUT, THAT THESE MEETING 1981 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,800 ATTENDEES TOOK BACK TO THEIR 1982 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:44,480 INSTITUTIONS. 1983 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:45,760 THEN THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO 1984 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:50,200 MAKE IS POSTDOCS, THEY ARE THE 1985 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,400 FORGOTTEN SORT OF EMPLOYEE, AND 1986 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,120 WE FOUND THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY 1987 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,640 STARTING A POSTDOC OFFICE UP IN 1988 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,560 THE MEDICAL SCHOOL TO -- NOT 1989 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,200 JUST ON MAIN CAMPUS BUT IN THE 1990 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,200 MEDICAL SCHOOL TO REALLY DEAL 1991 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,040 WITH WORK/LIFE BALANCE ISSUES, 1992 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,120 MENTAL HEALTH, THINGS LIKE THAT. 1993 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,760 AND I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO 1994 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,160 EXPAND IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 1995 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,640 POSTDOCS ARE UNDER A LOT OF 1996 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,960 PRESSURE, IT'S NOT AN EASY LIFE 1997 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,160 AND YOU'RE NOT MAKING A LOT OF 1998 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,720 MONEY, SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY 1999 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,440 OFFER MORE SUPPORT. 2000 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,120 >>GREAT. 2001 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,680 THOSE ARE ALL EXCELLENT POINTS. 2002 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:23,680 THANK YOU. 2003 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:23,880 NEIL. 2004 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,560 >>HEY, EVERYONE. 2005 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,120 I JUST WANTED TO ECHO A FEW 2006 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,440 POINTS AND OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF 2007 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,120 PERSPECTIVE. 2008 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,560 I THINK WHEN I TALK TO STUDENTS 2009 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:30,800 WHO ARE GRADUATING, THESE ARE 2010 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,640 USUALLY STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING 2011 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,280 INTO MEDICINAL CHEMISTRY OR 2012 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,840 PROCESS CHEMISTRY, THEY ARE 2013 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,200 ALREADY DOING THE COST-BENEFIT 2014 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,320 ANALYSIS OF WHAT THEIR OPTIONS 2015 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,600 ARE, AND I THINK ESPECIALLY FOR 2016 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,000 THE STUDENTS THAT ARE -- YOU 2017 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,120 KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY WE'RE 2018 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,640 TALKING ABOUT FOURTH OR FIFTH 2019 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,080 YEAR PH.D. STUDENTS NOW, HALF OF 2020 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,440 THEIR PH.D. HAS BEEN THROUGH THE 2021 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:49,800 PANDEMIC. 2022 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,400 AND I DO THINK THAT HAS AFFECTED 2023 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,720 THEIR MENTALITY CONSIDERABLY. 2024 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,080 I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE 2025 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:56,720 ALREADY FEELING BURNT OUT. 2026 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,120 SO THEN WHEN THEY THINK ABOUT, 2027 01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,960 OKAY, SHOULD I GET A JOB WHILE 2028 01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:02,280 THE JOB MARKET IS HOT, IN 2029 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,240 INDUSTRY, OR DO A POSTDOC, THINK 2030 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,360 THE DECISION IS REALLY EASY FOR 2031 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:05,720 THEM. 2032 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,480 IT'S A NO-BRAINER RIGHT NOW. 2033 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,120 IF THEY'RE ALREADY FEELING BURNT 2034 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,520 OUT, THAT'S LIKE, OKAY, DO I 2035 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,800 WANT TO DO ANOTHER TWO TO FOUR 2036 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,200 YEARS OF EXTREME EXHAUSTION? 2037 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:15,800 RELATIVELY LOW SALARY COMPARED 2038 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,360 TO WHAT THEY WOULD MAKE IN 2039 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,240 INDUSTRY, AND SOME OF THE 2040 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:24,600 INDUSTRY SALARIES ARE EASILY TWO 2041 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,960 TO THREE TIMES WHAT A POSTDOC 2042 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,920 SALARY WOULD BE. 2043 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,480 GENENTECH, THEY'RE OFFERING 2044 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,400 GINORMOUS SALARIES RIGHT NOW 2045 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,400 TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH SILICON 2046 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:33,640 VALLEY. 2047 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,240 SO I THINK IT'S A KNOW BRAINER. 2048 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,000 ONE POSTDOC WHO WANTED TO GO TO 2049 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,400 THE PUI ROUTE, HIS PUI SALARY IS 2050 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,000 LOWER THAN HIS UCLA SALARY AS A 2051 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,600 POSTDOC. 2052 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,040 AND SO VERY FEW PEOPLE REALLY 2053 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,520 HAVE IT IN THEM TO GO THAT 2054 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:55,680 DISTANCE AND SAY I'M REALLY 2055 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:56,880 COMMITTED TO ACADEMIA, SO MUCH 2056 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,520 SO THAT I'M GOING TO SACRIFICE A 2057 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,280 FEW MORE YEARS OF A POSTDOC TO 2058 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,800 THEN HAVE A PRETTY LOW SALARY. 2059 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,880 I THINK THAT ACADEMIC SALARY 2060 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,280 VARIES QUITE A BIT. 2061 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,760 QUESTION WE SEE THESE NUMBERS AR 2062 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,800 THE PLACE WHAT WE'RE HIRING AT 2063 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,360 UCLA, BUT STILL THOSE SALARIES 2064 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,840 BEAT THOSE ACADEMIC SALARIES BY 2065 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,360 A LOT. 2066 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:16,360 SO MY IMPRESSION HERE IS THAT 2067 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,120 THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF BURNOUT, 2068 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,800 AND UNDERSTANDING STUDENT 2069 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:20,560 MENTALITY, I THINK WOULD BE 2070 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:21,680 IMPORTANT FOR FIGURING OUT HOW 2071 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:22,520 TO MOVE FORWARD. 2072 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,000 >>I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD 2073 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,760 POINTS. 2074 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,840 OF COURSE IT ALSO MAKES -- BEGS 2075 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,080 THE QUESTION AGAIN OF THREE OR 2076 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,680 FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, WILL THE 2077 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:33,920 SITUATION BE THE SAME AS IT IS 2078 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,480 NOW OR WILL IT CHANGE AGAIN? 2079 01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:40,760 ANGELA. 2080 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,480 >>I ALSO COULD ECHO MANY 2081 01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:45,360 INSIGHTFUL THINGS THAT WERE 2082 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,600 SAID, BUT I WON'T, TIME IS 2083 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,680 SHORT. 2084 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,800 THE TWO NEW THINGS ON MY LIST 2085 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,000 WERE TO CONSIDER FIRST, IT'S NOT 2086 01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:00,000 JUST THE PH.D. PIPELINE THAT 2087 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:00,880 POSTDOC TO INDUSTRY PIPELINE 2088 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:01,960 THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE 2089 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:02,920 RELATIVELY QUICKLY. 2090 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,320 MY IMPRESSION FROM TALKING TO MY 2091 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:05,640 COLLEAGUES IN THE BIOTECH 2092 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,920 INDUSTRY IS INCREASINGLY THEY'RE 2093 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,800 LOOKING TOWARDS INTERNAL 2094 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,040 TRAINING OF MASTERS STUDENTS SO 2095 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,320 THAT THE NUMBER OF PH.D.s 2096 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,680 MIGHT NOT BE YOUR ONLY DIAL 2097 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,120 HERE, AND SO THAT IT'S REALLY 2098 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,320 IMPORTANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT 2099 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,000 TREND, BECAUSE INCREASINGLY THE 2100 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,840 KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE REALLY 2101 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,600 USEFUL IN A LARGER TEAM-ORIENTED 2102 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,160 SCIENCE CONTEXT ARE DIFFERENT 2103 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,880 SORT OF SKILLS AND DISPOSITIONS 2104 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,440 AND THEN INDIVIDUAL MANAGEMENT 2105 01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:40,200 OF A SOLO PROJECT LIKE YOU DO IN 2106 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,320 A PH.D. OR IN A POSTDOC EVEN. 2107 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:47,160 SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE 2108 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,760 WORKING GROUP TO HAVE THOSE 2109 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:50,600 CONVERSATIONS NOT JUST ABOUT 2110 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,720 WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE NOW, BUT 2111 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,560 WHAT PEOPLE ARE SORT OF 2112 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:56,360 PROSPECTING FORWARD IN THAT 2113 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,320 SPACE TOO. 2114 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,600 >>I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD 2115 01:09:59,600 --> 01:09:59,800 POINTS. 2116 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,840 >>AND THE OTHER ONE ACTUALLY 2117 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,480 IS, THERE'S SOME THINGS SORT 2118 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:06,880 OF -- THERE'S AN INTERESTING 2119 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:07,760 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GRADUATE 2120 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,480 STUDENTS WHO GO IMMEDIATELY FROM 2121 01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:11,880 GETTING THEIR DEGREE TO A 2122 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,400 POSITION IN INDUSTRY VERSUS A 2123 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,360 POSTDOC, WHICH IS THAT STUDENTS 2124 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:17,800 STILL NEED THEIR PH.D. 2125 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,720 SO THAT THERE IS A DEFINED END 2126 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,680 POINT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR 2127 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,560 LAB IN TERPS OF SORT OF 2128 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,760 EXPECTATIONS AND FULFILLMENT, 2129 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,240 WHEREAS WITH POSTDOCS, THE TIME 2130 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,520 FRAME CAN OFTEN BE EXTREMELY 2131 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,240 QUICK, SO WITHOUT ANY REQUIRED 2132 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,720 END POINT FROM THEIR HOST LAB. 2133 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,240 SO IF SOMEBODY DOES TAKE ON A 2134 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:40,440 POSTDOC BUT THEN CHOOSES TO 2135 01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:41,640 APPLY FOR INDUSTRY POSITIONS, 2136 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:42,880 THEY CAN LEAVE QUITE QUICKLY. 2137 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:43,400 >>RIGHT. 2138 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,480 >>AND I THINK -- SO THIS IS 2139 01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,880 ANOTHER PIECE TO KEEP IN MIND 2140 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,320 FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF BOTH 2141 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,600 POSTDOCS AND FACULTY IN THE 2142 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,360 SENSE THAT I THINK IT'S 2143 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:57,640 DIFFERENT. 2144 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,440 I THINK THAT CADENCE IS 2145 01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:02,720 DIFFERENT FOR FACULTY POSTDOC 2146 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,000 RELATRELATIONSHIPS THAN ITS 2147 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,800 POTENTIALLY FOR STUDENT FACULTY 2148 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,240 RELATIONSHIPS. 2149 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,800 AND FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, 2150 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,520 I'M HAVING TROUBLE GIVING YOU 2151 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,120 ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ISSUE, 2152 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,640 BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S 2153 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,160 PROBABLY SOME INTERESTING WAYS 2154 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,560 TO THINK ABOUT HOW PROJECT 2155 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,440 HANDOFF AND THINGS LIKE THIS 2156 01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:25,320 MIGHT WORK IN TERMS OF FUNDING, 2157 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,920 BECAUSE IT CAN BE QUITE 2158 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,440 DISRUPTIVE. 2159 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:28,520 ALL RIGHT. 2160 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,920 VERY LAST THING, SOMETHING WE 2161 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,760 DON'T TALK A LOT ABOUT WITH 2162 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,200 POSTDOCS IS NOT JUST THEIR 2163 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,560 SALARIES BUT THEIR BENEFITS. 2164 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,000 >>YES, ABSOLUTELY. 2165 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,400 >>SO CLOCKING RETIREMENT FUNDS 2166 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,400 WHEN YOU ARE DOING A POSTDOC, 2167 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,840 THIS IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY COST 2168 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,520 FOR PEOPLE. 2169 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,240 SO EVEN IF WE'RE -- ASIDE FROM 2170 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,320 SALARY, WHICH IS A REALLY 2171 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:51,200 IMPORTANT CONVERSATION, I JUST 2172 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,280 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALSO THIS 2173 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,680 SORT OF, YOU KNOW, HOME 2174 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:55,960 OWNERSHIP RETIREMENT BENEFIT, 2175 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,400 THOSE SORT OF LONG GAME 2176 01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:59,160 FINANCIAL INVESTMENTS THAT 2177 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:00,280 PEOPLE ARE MAKING IN THE EARLY 2178 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,760 PART OF THEIR CAREERS ARE REALLY 2179 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,000 IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE 2180 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:04,520 FOR THEM TOO. 2181 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,720 >>THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. 2182 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,280 WE ARE WELL AWARE THAT BECAUSE 2183 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,880 OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS 2184 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,720 INSTITUTIONS CLASSIFY POSTDOCS, 2185 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,400 THAT AT SOME INSTITUTIONS, IF 2186 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,440 SOMEONE GETS A FELLOWSHIP, THEY 2187 01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:17,960 CAN SUDDENLY GO FROM EMPLOYEE 2188 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,280 STATUS TO NOT EMPLOYEE AND LOSE 2189 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,400 THEIR BENEFITS. 2190 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,200 WE ARE AWARE OF IT, IT'S NOT 2191 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,480 ENTIRELY -- IT'S NOT LARGELY IN 2192 01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:27,480 OUR CONTROL, BUT WE'RE LOOKING 2193 01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:28,720 AT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO 2194 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:29,560 ABOUT IT. 2195 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:30,800 DANIELLE. 2196 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,200 LAST WORD. 2197 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,520 >>OKAY. 2198 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,640 SO I GUESS I WAS THINKING ABOUT 2199 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,120 WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE SORT OF 2200 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,520 LIKE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF 2201 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,040 POSTDOCS OR THE RIGHT NUMBER OF 2202 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:40,920 GRADUATE STUDENTS. 2203 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,880 I DON'T RUN A LAB, BUT WHEN WE 2204 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,160 THINK ABOUT DOING GRADUATE 2205 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:45,800 ADMISSIONS, ONE OF THE KEY 2206 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,000 THINGS WE THINK ABOUT IS WE 2207 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:47,920 ADMIT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS 2208 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,320 THAT WE THINK WE CAN 2209 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,760 SUCCESSFULLY PLACE AND ADVISE ON 2210 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:53,880 THE OUTSIDE END. 2211 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,400 SO IN SOME WAYS THE RIGHT NUMBER 2212 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,240 OF POSTDOCS IS THE NUMBER OF 2213 01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,120 POSTDOCS THAT WE THINK HAVE A 2214 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,440 REASONABLE CHANCE OF GOING INTO 2215 01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:00,680 ACADEMIA. 2216 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,960 ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK 2217 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,120 DOESN'T COME OUT OF THIS 2218 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,280 DISCUSSION IS WE'VE BEEN 2219 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:05,680 COMPARING INDUSTRY VERSUS 2220 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:06,280 POSTDOCS. 2221 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:07,200 WORKING IN INDUSTRY IS A CAREER, 2222 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,600 BUT BEING A POSTDOC IS NOT A 2223 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:09,240 CAREER. 2224 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,960 PEOPLE DON'T SORT OF -- IT'S NOT 2225 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,000 LIKE -- SO TALKING ABOUT THE 2226 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,360 SALARY AND THE BENEFITS AND THE 2227 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,120 RETIREMENT, I DON'T THINK 2228 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,280 POSTDOCS SORT OF DO POSTDOCS FOR 2229 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:18,560 THAT SALARY. 2230 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,120 THEY DO IT BECAUSE IT'S A 2231 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,000 LOTTERY TICKET THAT GIVES THEM 2232 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,560 THE CHANCE OF HAVING INDEPENDENT 2233 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:23,400 RESEARCH CAREER. 2234 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,440 AND SO IF WE PAY THEM MORE BUT 2235 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,320 THERE'S STILL NO LIKE ABILITY TO 2236 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,720 SORT OF THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING 2237 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,240 TO END UP BECOMING YOUR OWN 2238 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,240 INDEPENDENT FACULTY RESEARCHER 2239 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,680 OR RUN YOUR OWN LAB, THE PAY IS 2240 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:36,880 THE EXPECTATION OF THE SORT OF 2241 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:37,680 FUTURE INDEPENDENT CAREER THAT 2242 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,240 YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. 2243 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,520 SO I THINK THIS IDEA OF LET'S 2244 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,280 MAKE SURE THEY HAVE RETIREMENT 2245 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,120 BENEFITS, LET'S PAY THEM 2246 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,200 $150,000 A YEAR, THAT'S NOT -- 2247 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,240 THE POSTDOC IS NOT MEANT LIKE 2248 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,440 TO -- IT WOULD BE -- I WOULD 2249 01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:50,760 THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE 2250 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,320 BETTER TO INCREASE THE 2251 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,120 PROBABILITY THAT THEY ARE ABLE 2252 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,320 TO COMPETE FOR A GOOD RESEARCH 2253 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:57,520 CAREER RATHER THAN THE DIRECT 2254 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:58,080 PAY PER SE. 2255 01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,080 I THINK PART OF THE THINGS THAT 2256 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,800 MAKES A POSTDOC HARD IS THAT 2257 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,440 YOU'RE BEING PAID SO LITTLE OR 2258 01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,160 WORK HOURS ARE HARD, AND THE 2259 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,240 PROBABILITY OF ACTUALLY HAVING A 2260 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,880 SUCCESSFUL CAREER IS QUITE LOW. 2261 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,960 AND SO I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO 2262 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,120 THINKING ABOUT THE RIGHT 2263 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,120 NUMBERS, YOU CAN IMAGINE THE 2264 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,440 GRAD STUDENTS, WHAT IT MEANS TO 2265 01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:17,520 PLACE GRAD STUDENTS IS TO PLACE 2266 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,240 THEM INTO A GOOD POSTDOC OR INTO 2267 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,560 INDUSTRY IN A CAREER THEY FIND 2268 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:21,880 FULFILLING. 2269 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,760 SO I CAN IMAGINE A WORLD IN 2270 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,080 WHICH THE SPIGOT FOR GRAD 2271 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:26,160 STUDENTS COULD ACTUALLY GET 2272 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,680 TURNED UP QUITE A BIT WITH THE 2273 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,440 UNDERSTANDING THAT A HIGHER 2274 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:32,360 SHARE OF THEM ARE GOING TO GO 2275 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:32,680 INTO INDUSTRY. 2276 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:33,880 I THINK A LOT OF THE PREVIOUS 2277 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:34,760 CONVERSATION ABOUT THERE WERE 2278 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:35,920 TOO MANY GRAD STUDENTS IS 2279 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:36,800 BECAUSE WE THOUGHT ALL THE GRAD 2280 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,320 STUDENTS HAD TO BECOME POSTDOCS 2281 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,960 SO THEY COULD BECOME PROFESSORS, 2282 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,480 BUT IF WE THINK OF INDUSTRY AS A 2283 01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:43,120 SORT OF -- A MORE VIABLE CHOICE 2284 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,000 THAT PIs DON'T MAKE THEIR 2285 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,520 STUDENTS FEEL BAD ABOUT WANTING 2286 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:47,720 AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT COULD 2287 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,120 CHANGE LIKE -- YOU CAN IMAGINE 2288 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,560 HAVING MORE GRADUATE STUDENTS 2289 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,280 AND FEWER POSTDOCS BUT THE 2290 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:53,960 POSTDOCS THAT GO THROUGH HAVE A 2291 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,120 HIGHER CHANCE OF GOING INTO 2292 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,520 FACULTY POSITIONS, BUT KIND OF 2293 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,600 THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE OUTFLOW 2294 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,200 IS, LIKE POSTDOCS FLOW INTO 2295 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,320 FACULTY POSITIONS WHEREAS 2296 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:06,400 GRADUATE STUDENTS CAN FLOW INTO 2297 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:07,440 INDUSTRY AND POSTDOCS. 2298 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,360 >>THOSE ARE EXCELLENT POINTS, 2299 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,880 AND WHEN THE POSTDOC IDEA 2300 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,080 STARTED, AT LEAST ANECDOTALLY, 2301 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,560 PEOPLE DID POSTDOCS FOR A YEAR 2302 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,280 OR TWO, AS YOU SAID, SO THEY 2303 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,280 COULD THEN GET A FACULTY 2304 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:21,520 POSITION. 2305 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,200 NOW TO CHANGE SUCH THAT IT 2306 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,880 BECAME LONGER AND LONGER 2307 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,360 POSTDOCS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE 2308 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,160 BEING LOW PAID FOR A YEAR OR TWO 2309 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:31,440 BUT THAT'S THE TICKET, AS YOU 2310 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:33,200 SAID, TO GET A FACULTY JOB, 2311 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,040 THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU'RE 2312 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,800 BEING LOW PAID FOR SIX YEARS AND 2313 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,240 THEN MAYBE YOU HAVE TO DO A 2314 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,000 SECOND POSTDOC AND YOU DON'T 2315 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,480 EVEN GET A JOB. 2316 01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:41,840 >> -- IS THE POLICY CONCERN. 2317 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,360 IT SAYS SOMETHING THAT, LIKE, 2318 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,440 THE FACULTY -- THERE ARE SO FEW 2319 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:46,120 FACULTY POSITIONS THAT PEOPLE 2320 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:47,600 HAVE TO LINE UP FOR SIX YEARS IN 2321 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,200 ORDER TO GET ONE, LIKE, I THINK 2322 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,480 THAT'S THE CONSTRAINT ON SORT OF 2323 01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:56,000 THE DESAIABILIT DESIRABILITY OF, 2324 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,400 NOT THE PAY AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT. 2325 01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:02,880 >>THAT WAS A FANTASTIC 2326 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:03,160 DISCUSSION. 2327 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,720 >>CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING TO 2328 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:06,800 FOLLOW UP ON THAT POINT. 2329 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,000 SORRY, MY HAND RAISING DOESN'T 2330 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,080 SEEM TO WORK. 2331 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,240 ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A 2332 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,440 PUSH, I THOUGHT IT CAME FROM GMS 2333 01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:16,360 BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG, ABOUT THIS 2334 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,200 VERY QUESTION. 2335 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,920 THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE POST PH.D. 2336 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,040 DON'T HAVE A CAREER TRAJECTORY 2337 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,880 WITHIN ACADEMIA. 2338 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,880 AND THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS 2339 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,160 MADE TO TRY TO PROFESSIONALIZE 2340 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:36,400 THE RESEARCH ASSOCIATE LEVEL OF 2341 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,200 CATEGORY FROM UNIVERSITIES WHERE 2342 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,360 THEY SEEM TO FALL BETWEEN THE 2343 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,480 CRACKS, AND I WONDER IF THERE 2344 01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:43,200 WAS ANY OUTCOME OF THAT THAT WAS 2345 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,120 EVER ANALYZED BECAUSE IT SEEMS 2346 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,240 LIKE THAT WOULD BE VERY 2347 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,120 PERTINENT TO THIS QUESTION. 2348 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:49,520 >>SO THAT'S STILL A VIABLE 2349 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:49,960 OPTION. 2350 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,440 I MEAN, THE IDEA OF STAFF 2351 01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:51,800 SCIENTISTS. 2352 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,120 BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A 2353 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,520 POSTDOC, RIGHT? 2354 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,280 THAT'S A -- TO DANIELLE'S POINT, 2355 01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,120 THAT'S A LONG TERM JOB 2356 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,720 FUNCTIONING AS A HIGH LEVEL 2357 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,600 RESEARCHER IN A LAB WHERE 2358 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,360 PRESUMABLY YOU'RE GETTING 2359 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,440 COMPENSATED AT A HIGH LEVEL. 2360 01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:09,280 >>RIGHT. 2361 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,480 CAN I JUST ASK, WHAT IS THE 2362 01:17:11,480 --> 01:17:13,120 PERCEPTION OF THE CRISIS? 2363 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,400 IS IT THAT THERE AREN'T ENOUGH 2364 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,040 PH.D.-LEVEL RESEARCHERS IN LABS 2365 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,280 THAT ARE FUNDED BY GMS TO CARRY 2366 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,720 OUT THE WORK PRODUCTIVELY, OR 2367 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,160 WHAT IS THE -- 2368 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:27,800 >>THE IDEA OF A CRISIS IS NOT 2369 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:28,760 COMING FROM US. 2370 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,280 WE'RE JUST HEARING WHAT THE 2371 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,720 COMMUNITY IS SAYING. 2372 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,800 AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. 2373 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,240 >>YEAH. 2374 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,200 >>BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE MODEL IS 2375 01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,640 YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF 2376 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:48,080 VERY LOW PAID POSTDOCS DO MOST 2377 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,520 OF THE WORK IN YOUR LAB, THAT'S 2378 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,400 DIFFERENT THAN SAYING I'M GOING 2379 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,640 TO RUN MY LAB WITH ONE OR TWO 2380 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,640 VERY HIGH PAID PEOPLE WHO ARE 2381 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:54,720 THERE FOR THE LONG TERM. 2382 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,240 YOU CAN DO THE LATTER MODEL 2383 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:57,920 RIGHT NOW WITH YOUR GRANT. 2384 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:02,080 YOU CAN DECIDE INSTEAD OF HAVING 2385 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,040 FOUR POSTDOCS, I'M GOING TO HAVE 2386 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:05,120 TWO STAFF SCIENTISTS AND PAY 2387 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,960 THEM AT THAT LEVEL, ASSUMING 2388 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,600 YOUR INSTITUTION ALLOWS YOU -- 2389 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,480 HAS A POSITION LIKE THAT. 2390 01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:12,560 BUT AGAIN THAT'S A DECISION ON 2391 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,080 HOW YOU WANT TO RUN YOUR LAB AND 2392 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,720 MAKING THAT CHOICE, YEAH, AS FAR 2393 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:16,240 AS I CAN SEE. 2394 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,000 >>SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO 2395 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,840 SAY, MY PERCEPTION IS THAT THE 2396 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,480 LABS -- MANY OF THE LABS WHO ARE 2397 01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:23,120 MOST SUCCESSFUL ARE THOSE WHO 2398 01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,040 HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO 2399 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,840 LONG-TERM RESEARCH SCIENTISTS 2400 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:28,920 WHO PROVIDE CONTINUITY FOR THE 2401 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,560 LAB. 2402 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,840 AND BARRIERS TO THAT ARE SALARY 2403 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,800 LEVEL AND THE LIKELIHOOD THAT 2404 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,280 THE GRANT FUNDING PERSISTS THAS 2405 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,840 FIVE YEARS OR FOUR OR FIVE 2406 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,120 YEARS. 2407 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:43,320 SO -- 2408 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,120 >>THAT'S TRUE OF EVERYTHING, 2409 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,080 RIGHT, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO 2410 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,400 CREATE A SYSTEM WHERE YOUR STAFF 2411 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,200 SCIENTIST WITH GUARANTEED SALARY 2412 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,400 FOR YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. 2413 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,800 NOTHING WORKS LIKE THAT, EXCEPT 2414 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,640 MAYBE THE TENURE IN ACADEMIA. 2415 01:18:59,640 --> 01:18:59,840 BUT -- 2416 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,240 >>SO BASICALLY YOU'RE 2417 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,120 RESPONDING TO THE COMPLAINTS 2418 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,000 AMONG INVESTIGATORS THEN. 2419 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,240 >>YES. 2420 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,280 THAT'S RIGHT. 2421 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:08,080 WE WILL CONTINUE THIS 2422 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:08,360 DISCUSSION. 2423 01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,480 I THINK IT'S REALLY FASCINATING. 2424 01:19:11,480 --> 01:19:12,840 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INPUT, 2425 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:13,960 GREAT POINTS, AND I WILL TAKE 2426 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,280 THESE POINTS TO THE ACD 2427 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:21,840 COMMITTEE TO TRY TO MAKE THEM. 2428 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,800 SO WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON, I 2429 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,120 THINK DARREN IS GOING TO GIVE AN 2430 01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,320 UPDATE ON THE DATA MANAGEMENT 2431 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:27,000 AND SHARING POLICY. 2432 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:27,640 >>THAT IS CORRECT. 2433 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,600 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY. 2434 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,520 AS JOHN MENTI JON MENTIONED IN , 2435 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,640 WE'RE MAKING EFFORTS TO 2436 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,360 COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY, SO 2437 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,960 WE WANT TO TALK A BIT ABOUT THE 2438 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,480 NIH DATA MANAGEMENT AND SHARING 2439 01:19:41,480 --> 01:19:42,480 POLICY THAT WAS JUST ROLLED OUT 2440 01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:44,200 AND KIND OF PROVIDE YOU THE 2441 01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,520 NIGMS VISION AS WELL AS SOME 2442 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:47,800 JUST DIGGING IN A LITTLE DEEPER 2443 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,920 TO WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WILL 2444 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,920 BE. 2445 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,760 IF I COULD ASK FOLKS TO TURN OFF 2446 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,360 THEIR CAMERAS. 2447 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,800 IT JUST MAKES THE VIDEOCAST LOOK 2448 01:19:58,800 --> 01:19:59,480 BETTER TOO. 2449 01:19:59,480 --> 01:20:00,600 SO LET ME GIVE A LITTLE 2450 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:01,880 BACKGROUND THEN ABOUT THE DATA 2451 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,200 MANAGEMENT AND SHARING POLICY. 2452 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,840 THIS IS A NEW POLICY TO PROMOTE 2453 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,080 THE SHARING OF SCIENTIFIC DATA. 2454 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,400 STARTING ON JANUARY 25TH, SO 2455 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,360 LAST WEEK, NIH GRANTEES NEED TO 2456 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:15,760 SUBMIT A DATA MANAGEMENT AND 2457 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,640 SHARING PLAN AS PART OF THEIR 2458 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,840 GRANT APPLICATION. 2459 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:25,120 THIS ONLY APPLIES TO COMPETING 2460 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:25,560 APPLICATIONS. 2461 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:26,440 NOW NIGMS BELIEVES IN GENERAL 2462 01:20:26,440 --> 01:20:27,640 MOST OF OUR GRANTEES ALREADY 2463 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,600 MEET THE NEW POLICY 2464 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,920 REQUIREMENTS, AND WE EXPLAIN 2465 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,560 THIS MORE FULLY IN A FEEDBACK 2466 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,200 LOOP POST THAT WE PUT UP A 2467 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,520 COUPLE MONTHS AGO AS WELL AS A 2468 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,280 LINK TO A LIST OF FAQs ON OUR 2469 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,760 NIGMS WEBSITE. 2470 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,200 SO REALLY THESE PLANS WILL KIND 2471 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,480 OF FORM LACE WHAT NIGMS 2472 01:20:47,480 --> 01:20:52,840 PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATORS ALREADY 2473 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:53,720 DO. 2474 01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,760 MOST DMS PLANS ARE EXPECTED TO 2475 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,520 BE CONCISE, NO MORE THAN TWO 2476 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,840 PAGES ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT 2477 01:20:58,840 --> 01:20:59,440 PAGE-LIMITED. 2478 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:01,880 NIH HAS PROVIDED AN OPTIONAL 2479 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:02,800 WORD DOCUMENT TEMPLATE THAT I'LL 2480 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:08,520 GO OVER A LITTLE BIT IN DETAIL 2481 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,800 LATER ON THAT WILL HELP YOU 2482 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,040 ORGANIZE YOUR DMS PLAN AND LET 2483 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,000 YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE 2484 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:20,440 INCLUDED IN IT. 2485 01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:24,600 SO FIRST WHAT DATA DO WE THINK 2486 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:25,560 NEEDS TO BE SHARED? 2487 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,320 ANY DATA NEEDED TO VALIDATE AND 2488 01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,720 REPLICATE RESEARCH FINDINGS. 2489 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,280 NIGMS EXPECTS THAT ITS GRANTEES 2490 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,920 WILL MAKE DATA UNDERLYING PEER 2491 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:38,280 REVIEWED PUMCATI PUBLICATIONS FE 2492 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,360 AND ACCESSIBLE, HUMAN SUBJECTS, 2493 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,000 PRIVACY AND CONSENT. 2494 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,560 WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME 2495 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,480 LIMITATIONS FOR WHAT DATA CAN BE 2496 01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:46,000 SHARED. 2497 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,800 THERE ARE SOME RARE CASES WHERE 2498 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,480 DWRGRANTEES MIGHT GENERATE HIGH 2499 01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:53,560 QUALITY DATA THAT WON'T BE 2500 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,080 PUBLISHED IN A TIMELY MANNER FOR 2501 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,840 SUCH REASONS, THESE DATASETS 2502 01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,720 SHOULD ALSO BE MADE FINDABLE AND 2503 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:00,360 ACCESSIBLE. 2504 01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,720 NOW EXPECTATIONS FOR SHARING 2505 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,680 PROPRIETARY DATA MAY DEPEND ON 2506 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,040 THE FUNDING MECHANISM OR SOURCE. 2507 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,360 YOU NEED TO -- YOU SHOULD 2508 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,360 PROBABLY DISCUSS THESE TYPES OF 2509 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,480 ISSUES WITH YOUR PROGRAM OFFICER 2510 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:15,960 OR IF YOU HAVE AN SBIR/STTR, 2511 01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,360 HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE NIH 2512 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:17,760 SEED OFFICE. 2513 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,680 THEY CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAILS 2514 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:27,280 ABOUT SHARING THAT TYPE OF DATA. 2515 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,680 SO THIS IS THE KIND OF DATA THAT 2516 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:30,640 GENERALLY SHOULD NOT INCLUDE AS 2517 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:31,200 FAR AS SHARING. 2518 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:32,640 WE DO NOT EXPECT LABORATORY 2519 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,480 NOTEBOOKS TO BE SHARED, 2520 01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:35,560 PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS, COMPLETED 2521 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,680 CASE REPORTS, DRAFTS OF PAPERS, 2522 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,760 PLANS FOR FUTURE RESEARCH, PEER 2523 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,160 REVIEWS OR COMMUNICATIONS WITH 2524 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:44,560 COLLEAGUES, AS WELL AS PHYSICAL 2525 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,200 OBJECTS OR SOFTWARE CODE NOT 2526 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,400 NEEDED TO ACCESS AND MANIPULATE 2527 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:49,400 THE DATA. 2528 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:50,600 SO WE'RE TAKING A HIGHER LEVEL 2529 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,240 VIEW OF WHAT DATA IS TO BE 2530 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,320 SHARED AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF 2531 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:56,520 DATA THAT SHARING IS NOT 2532 01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,880 EXPECTED. 2533 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:01,560 COMPLIANCE. 2534 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,160 SO HOW IS NIH GOING TO OVERSEE 2535 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:04,360 THIS? 2536 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,280 KEEP IN MIND THAT THE APPROVED 2537 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:07,480 DATA MANAGEMENT SHARING PLAN 2538 01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:09,320 WILL NOW BECOME PART OF THE TERM 2539 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,400 AND CONDITION OF AWARD FOR ANY 2540 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:13,560 GRANTS. 2541 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:14,800 THAT WILL BE PART OF YOUR NOTICE 2542 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:15,760 OF AWARD. 2543 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,200 GRANTEES WILL REPORT PROGRESS ON 2544 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,240 IMPLEMENTING APPROVED DMS PLANS 2545 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,520 IN THEIR YEARLY RPPR OR PROGRESS 2546 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:23,960 REPORT. 2547 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,280 NIH IS WORKING NOW TO UPDATE 2548 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,000 THOSE QUESTIONS. 2549 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,280 AND THAT WILL BE ROLLING OUT IN 2550 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,360 ANOTHER YEAR OR SO. 2551 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,320 AND AS WITH ALL OF OUR GRANTS, 2552 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,680 WE WILL REVIEW COMPLIANCE 2553 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:36,800 ANNUALLY. 2554 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,360 WHAT HAPPENS IF FOLKS ARE NOT 2555 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,080 COMPLYING WITH THEIR DMS PLAN, 2556 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,960 OF COURSE WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT 2557 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,080 ACTIONS, ANYWHERE FROM JUST 2558 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,160 SPECIAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF 2559 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,160 AWARD TO TERMINATION OF AWARD OR 2560 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,320 AFFECTING FUTURE FUNDING 2561 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:50,560 DECISIONS. 2562 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,400 BUT OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS THAT 2563 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,920 THIS SHOULD BE VERY RARE. 2564 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,240 WE DO NOT EXPECT THIS TO BE A 2565 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:59,840 BIG ISSUE WITH OUR FUNDED 2566 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,080 SCIENTISTS, SO WE WILL NOT WORRY 2567 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:08,280 ABOUT IT TOO MUCH HOPEFULLY. 2568 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:09,560 SO WHAT IS ACTUALLY CHANGING? 2569 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,840 HERE I'M GOING TO DIG DOWN A BIT 2570 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,080 MORE INTO THE DETAILS OF THE DMS 2571 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,680 PLAN AND WHAT IT MIGHT INCLUDE. 2572 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,960 SO ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS 2573 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:19,600 THAT THE DMS PLAN WILL BE A 2574 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,480 SINGLE PLAN THAT ADDRESSES BOTH 2575 01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:22,440 GENOMIC DATA SHARING AS WELL AS 2576 01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:23,560 THE DMS POLICY. 2577 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,560 SO IF YOU'RE PRODUCING LOTS OF 2578 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:26,520 GENOMIC DATA AND YOU'RE FALLING 2579 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,040 UNDER THE GENOMIC DATA SHARING 2580 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,360 POLICY, THAT'S GOING TO BE 2581 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,400 COMBINED WITH THE DMS POLICIES. 2582 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,240 WHEN YOU PUT TOGETHER YOUR 2583 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,120 APPLICATION AND GET READY TO 2584 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,040 SUBMIT, YOU'RE GOING TO SUBMIT 2585 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,480 THE DMS PLAN UNDER A NEW FIELD 2586 01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:44,800 CALLED OTHER PLANS. 2587 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,880 IN THE PAST, WE JUST HAD THE 2588 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,200 RESOURCE SHARING PLAN SECTION, 2589 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,720 NOW WE HAVE A SECOND SHARING 2590 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:49,960 SECTION. 2591 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,120 IT'SING IF TO BE CALLED OTHER 2592 01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,120 PLANS. 2593 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,200 THIS OTHER PLAN SECTION IS 2594 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:55,680 REQUIRED. 2595 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:56,840 YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUBMIT 2596 01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:57,720 YOUR APPLICATION IF YOU DO NOT 2597 01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,560 HAVE A DMS PLAN UPLOADED INTO 2598 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,320 THIS SECTION. 2599 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:04,400 ALSO YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A 2600 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:05,400 BRIEF SUMMARY AND ASSOCIATED 2601 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,720 COSTS WITH PART OF YOUR BUDGET 2602 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:11,000 AND BUDGET JUSTIFICATION. 2603 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,680 THIS WILL BE PART THAT IS PEER 2604 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:13,280 REVIEWED. 2605 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,440 PEER REVIEWERS WILL SEE THIS 2606 01:25:14,440 --> 01:25:15,560 BRIEF SUMMARY. 2607 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,280 FOR MOST APPLICATIONS, FOR MOST 2608 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:19,320 FOAs, THEY WILL NOT SEE THE 2609 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,720 FULL DMS PLAN. 2610 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,120 NOW MODEL ORGANISM AND RESEARCH 2611 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,200 TOOL SHARING PLANS ARE GOING TO 2612 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:24,640 REMAIN IN THE RESOURCE SHARING 2613 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:25,720 PLAN SECTION, SO AGAIN, THIS IS 2614 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,520 GOING TO BE DIVIDED OUT IN THE 2615 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:28,720 APPLICATION TWO DIFFERENT PLACES 2616 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,880 TO UPLOAD THE APPROPRIATE PLANS. 2617 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,840 SO AS I KIND OF ALREADY 2618 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,280 MENTIONED, MOST DMS PLANS WILL 2619 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:37,600 ONLY BE REVIEWED BY PROGRAM 2620 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:38,200 STAFF. 2621 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:39,880 NOT BY PEER REVIEWERS. 2622 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,600 AND IN FACT, MOST DMS PLANS WILL 2623 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,640 BE REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATION, 2624 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,600 SO PEER REVIEWERS CAN'T EVEN SEE 2625 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:46,920 IT. 2626 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,320 SO THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT 2627 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,640 PROGRAM STAFF IS GOING TO LOOK 2628 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:52,120 AT. 2629 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,920 IF THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON 2630 01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,280 SHARING, YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT 2631 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,120 THAT OR DESCRIBE THAT IN THE DMS 2632 01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:57,680 PLAN. 2633 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,120 YOU DON'T PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE 2634 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,560 DATA SHARING PLANS. 2635 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:01,760 FOR BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS, IF 2636 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,800 YOU'RE DOING A DETAILED BUDGET, 2637 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,360 IT SHOULD HAVE ALLOWABLE COSTS 2638 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:08,840 FOR ALL DATA TYPES SO EVERYTHING 2639 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:09,120 TOGETHER. 2640 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:09,960 AND COMPLIANCE, I ALREADY 2641 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:11,160 MENTIONED THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE 2642 01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:12,800 HANDLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 2643 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:13,880 DMS POLICY AND THE ENFORCEMENT 2644 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,080 TERMS, BUT AGAIN, THE COMPLIANCE 2645 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:16,400 HOPEFULLY WILL BE VERY RARE AND 2646 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,480 LIMITED. 2647 01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:21,760 SO WHAT WOULD THESE PLANS 2648 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:22,440 ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE? 2649 01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:23,520 THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, I'M GOING 2650 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,120 TO GO THROUGH JUST BROADLY THAT 2651 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,440 NIH WORD DOCUMENT THAT I 2652 01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:29,960 MENTIONED THAT'S AVAILABLE ON 2653 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,080 THE SHARING.NIH.GOV WEBSITE THAT 2654 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,760 CAN HELP YOU PUT TOGETHER YOUR 2655 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:35,560 DMS PLAN. 2656 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,760 SO ELEMENT ONE HAS SIX ELEMENTS. 2657 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:38,920 ELEMENT ONE IS THE TYPE OF DATA, 2658 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,040 SO YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT 2659 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,400 KIND OF DATA. 2660 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:42,160 EQUALLY IMPORTANT YOU NEED TO 2661 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,880 TALK ABOUT METADATA OR OTHER 2662 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,320 RELEVANT DATA AND ASSOCIATED 2663 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,640 DOCUMENTATION THAT'S GOING TO 2664 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,040 HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE DATA. 2665 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,240 YOU ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT 2666 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:55,320 WHY -- YOUR RATIONALE FOR WHY 2667 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,840 THE DATA NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED 2668 01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,000 AND SHARED. 2669 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,240 ELEMENT TWO IS ANY RELATED TOOLS 2670 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,720 OR SOFTWARE CODE, SO BE EXPLICIT 2671 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,360 ABOUT HOW PEOPLE CAN -- WHAT 2672 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,120 SOFTWARE TOOLS THAT FOLKS NEED 2673 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,640 TO ACTUALLY DO ANY WORK WITH 2674 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,320 YOUR DATA. 2675 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:12,520 WHERE OUR HOPE IS A LOT OF THESE 2676 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,160 TOOLS WILL, OF COURSE, BE EASILY 2677 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:15,360 PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, BUT IF YOU 2678 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,800 MAKE SOME VERY SPECIFIC TOOLS, 2679 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,080 WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT TOO. 2680 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,560 WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW FOR EL 2681 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,600 EMTHREE WHAELEMENTTHREE WHAT KIA 2682 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:26,560 STANDARDS YOU'RE GOING TO BE 2683 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:27,680 USING FOR YOUR DATA. 2684 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,640 THIS HELPS, OF COURSE, MAKING 2685 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,120 DATASETS INTEROPERABLE, AND WE 2686 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,000 DO NEED TO SEE THE NAMES OF THE 2687 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:35,040 ACTUAL DATA STANDARD THAT YOU'RE 2688 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:40,440 GOING TO BE USING. 2689 01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:41,920 ELEMENT FOUR, DATA PRESERVATION 2690 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:42,920 AND ACCESS. 2691 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:44,320 SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT 2692 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,400 YOUR DATA, WHAT'S THE REPOSITORY 2693 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:47,520 THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE. 2694 01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,600 I MENTIONED THAT SHARING.NIH.GOV 2695 01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:51,000 WEBSITE. 2696 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,440 THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE A LIST OF 2697 01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:54,720 POSSIBLE REPOSITORIES YOU CAN 2698 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,600 USE, BUT IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE. 2699 01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:58,840 IF THERE ARE OTHER REPOSITORIES 2700 01:27:58,840 --> 01:27:59,680 THAT ARE MORE APPROPRIATE, YOU 2701 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,520 CAN CERTAINLY LIST THOSE. 2702 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:04,760 YOU ALSO NEED TO SAY HOW THE 2703 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,400 DATA WILL BE FINDABLE AND 2704 01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,280 IDENTIFIABLE. 2705 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,480 HOW WILL PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET TO 2706 01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:10,240 YOUR DATA. 2707 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,440 AND ALSO WHEN AND HOW LONG THE 2708 01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:15,600 DATA WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE, SO 2709 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,800 IN GENERAL, IT'S NO LATER THAN 2710 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:20,640 TIME ASSOCIATED PUBLICATION OR 2711 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,840 THE END OF THE PERFORMANCE 2712 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,600 PERIOD, BUT OF COURSE DEPENDING 2713 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:26,600 ON THE ACTUAL FUNDING 2714 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,760 ANNOUNCEMENT YOU COME INTO, THAT 2715 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:29,960 COULD CHANGE, SO IT DEPENDS A 2716 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,160 BIT ABOUT WHERE YOU APPLY FOR 2717 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,480 THE GRANT. 2718 01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:35,120 AND YOU ALSO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR 2719 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,680 HOW LONG THE DATA WILL BE 2720 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:37,520 AVAILABLE. 2721 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:38,640 ELEMENT FIVE, ACCESS, 2722 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:39,400 DISTRIBUTION OR RE-USE 2723 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:39,840 CONSIDERATIONS. 2724 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,560 ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH WHO 2725 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,520 CAN ACCESS THE DATA AND HOW THEY 2726 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,200 CAN USE IT. 2727 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,640 THIS IS MOSTLY APPROPRIATE FOR 2728 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,560 HUMAN SUBJECTS BASED RESEARCH, 2729 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,000 PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY, BUT 2730 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,240 IF THERE ARE RE-USE OR ACCESS OR 2731 01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,040 CONTROLLED DISTRIBUTION, WE NEED 2732 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:00,440 TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS AND WHY. 2733 01:29:00,440 --> 01:29:05,880 THEN FINALLY, OVERSIGHT AND DATA 2734 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,040 OF THE PLAN, WHO AT YOUR 2735 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,000 INSTITUTION IS PROVIDING 2736 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:08,880 OVERSIGHT OF THE PLAN TO MAKE 2737 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,000 SURE YOU'RE SHARING DATA AS YOU 2738 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,080 SAID YOU WOULD. 2739 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,600 SO THIS WILL BE 2740 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:14,240 INSTITUTION-SPECIFIC, OF COURSE 2741 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:15,760 YOUR PROGRAM OFFICER WILL ALSO 2742 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,400 BE PROVIDING SOME OVERSIGHT OF 2743 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:24,720 YOUR PLAN ONCE A YEAR. 2744 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:25,040 BUDGETS. 2745 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,800 THIS IS AN NIH POLICY WHERE WE 2746 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:27,440 ACTUALLY ARE THINKING THAT 2747 01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:28,680 PERHAPS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO 2748 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,520 BUDGET FOR EXTRA COSTS. 2749 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:33,600 REASONABLE COSTS ARE ALLOWED IN 2750 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:34,240 THE BUDGET REQUEST. 2751 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:35,600 THEY MUST ONLY BE INCURRED 2752 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:36,880 DURING THE PERFORMANCE PERIOD SO 2753 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,840 THAT IS DURING THE PERIOD OF THE 2754 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,040 GRANT ITSELF. 2755 01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,000 THIS CAN INCLUDE THINGS LIKE 2756 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,200 PRESERVING AND SHARING DATA 2757 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:46,640 THROUGH REPOSITORIES, CURATING 2758 01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,480 THE DATA, ANY LOCAL DATA 2759 01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:51,720 MANAGEMENT CONSIDERATIONS. 2760 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,080 KEEP IN MIND OUR ASSUMPTION THAT 2761 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,160 SINCE GRANTEES ARE ALREADY DOING 2762 01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:56,480 A GREAT JOB OF SHARING THEIR 2763 01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:58,360 DATA, ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR 2764 01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:59,880 SHARING WILL BE VERY MINIMAL. 2765 01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:01,640 YOU SHOULDN'T NEED MORE MONEY IF 2766 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:02,760 YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING IT. 2767 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,480 SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT 2768 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:07,800 WHAT PEOPLE ARE REQUESTING AND 2769 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,000 NIH IN GENERAL IS GOING TO BE 2770 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,280 LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE IN 2771 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:11,280 ESSENCE, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW 2772 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:18,200 WHAT KIND OF COSTS ARE INCURRED. 2773 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:19,280 NOT INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE 2774 01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:20,640 COSTS THAT MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN 2775 01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,160 INDIRECT COSTS AND ANY COSTS 2776 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:23,720 ASSOCIATED WITH ROUTINE CONDUCT 2777 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:31,560 OF RESEARCH. 2778 01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,000 SO LET ME SUMMARIZE THIS BY 2779 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,280 SAYING NIGMS GRANTEES IN GENERAL 2780 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,320 ALREADY MEET THE DATA SHARING 2781 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:36,640 REQUIREMENTS. 2782 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,160 THIS NEW PLAN WILL FORMALIZE 2783 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,600 WHAT OUR GRANTEES ARE ALREADY 2784 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:40,240 DOING. 2785 01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:41,640 AND OUR STAFF, IT WILL BE 2786 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,000 WORKING WITH GRANTEES TO 2787 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,440 MINIMIZE THE BURDEN ON PIs, 2788 01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:46,280 WHILE ENSURING THE DATA 2789 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:47,920 GENERATED ARE WIDELY, FAIRLY AND 2790 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,120 APPROPRIATELY SHARED WITH THE 2791 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:57,480 BROAD SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY. 2792 01:30:57,480 --> 01:30:59,120 NATE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON 2793 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,000 SETTING UP AT NIGMS TO TALK 2794 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,560 ABOUT THESE ISSUES AS THEY ARISE 2795 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:05,680 WITH OUR PIs. 2796 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,160 AND TO HELP COME UP WITH A BROAD 2797 01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:08,120 NIGMS ANSWER TO A LOT OF 2798 01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:09,000 QUESTIONS I'M SURE WE'LL BE 2799 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:09,400 GETTING. 2800 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:10,400 SO LET ME END THERE AND I'LL 2801 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:17,120 OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. 2802 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:17,640 >>GREAT. 2803 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,040 PEOPLE CAN TURN THEIR CAMERAS 2804 01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:19,680 BACK ON. 2805 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,280 DAVID. 2806 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,800 >>SO THANKS FOR ADDRESSING 2807 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:24,440 THIS. 2808 01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:26,000 AS AN EXTRAMURAL INVESTIGATOR, 2809 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:27,440 THIS IS THE THING RIGHT NOW THAT 2810 01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:30,800 HAS EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION AND 2811 01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:31,480 THEIR CONCERN. 2812 01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:32,800 I WILL SAY THAT YOU MAY BE 2813 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,360 SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT IN THE 2814 01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,160 MOLECULAR SIMULATION COMMUNITY, 2815 01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:38,360 THIS IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE 2816 01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,480 BECAUSE WE GENERATE REALLY LARGE 2817 01:31:41,480 --> 01:31:42,680 DATASETS, AND I HAVEN'T YET 2818 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,600 FIGURED OUT WHAT I'LL DO TO MEET 2819 01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:46,520 THIS REQUIREMENT. 2820 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:47,480 THAT BEING SAID, IN THE PAST 2821 01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:50,840 WHEN PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR 2822 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:52,440 TRAJECTORIES FOR MOLECULAR 2823 01:31:52,440 --> 01:31:53,760 DYNAMICS, WE'VE MADE THEM 2824 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:54,880 AVAILABLE AND FOUND A WAY TO 2825 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,200 DISTRIBUTE IT BUT THERE'S NO 2826 01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:57,280 SINGLE REPOSITORY THAT MAKES 2827 01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:57,880 THESE DISCOVERABLE. 2828 01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:58,920 SO THAT'S STILL A CHALLENGE FOR 2829 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:03,000 US. 2830 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,480 >>YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT 2831 01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:05,720 POINT AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE 2832 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:06,520 EMPHASIZED THAT MORE IN THE 2833 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,040 TALK, THAT PARTLY THE SHARING IS 2834 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,400 BASED ON THE SCIENTIFIC 2835 01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,000 COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TALKING 2836 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,560 ABOUT OR SUBCOMMUNITY, SO EACH 2837 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:13,320 SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY HAS 2838 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,200 DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS FOR DATA 2839 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,040 SHARING. 2840 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,040 SO PARTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE 2841 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,000 LEARNING IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S 2842 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,000 EXPECTATIONS ARE ON HOW THINGS 2843 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:23,680 WILL BE SHARED. 2844 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,000 SO WE DON'T EXPECT EVERY 2845 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,000 SCIENTIST TO SHARE THINGS IN THE 2846 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,000 SAME WAY, IN THAT SENSE. 2847 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,080 >>THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL HERE. 2848 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,800 THANK YOU. 2849 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:38,240 >>OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DARREN. 2850 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:38,440 OKAY. 2851 01:32:38,440 --> 01:32:38,720 EXCELLENT. 2852 01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,440 THANK YOU, DARREN. 2853 01:32:42,440 --> 01:32:43,760 I THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY PROBABLY 2854 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,600 DO THE NEXT SECTION BEFORE -- OR 2855 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:47,600 HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL? 2856 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,440 DO YOU WANT TO DO THE NEXT 2857 01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:53,640 SECTION OR HAVE A BREAK FIRST? 2858 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:54,920 IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A BREAK, 2859 01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:56,160 RAISE YOUR HAND. 2860 01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:56,480 OKAY. 2861 01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:57,800 IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE CAN DO THE 2862 01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:58,120 NEXT SECTION. 2863 01:32:58,120 --> 01:32:59,240 SO WE'LL GO TO THAT AND THEN 2864 01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:00,880 WE'LL HAVE A BREAK. 2865 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:08,160 ANDREW, I THINK YOU ARE NEXT. 2866 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,120 >>ALL RIGHT. 2867 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,440 HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME? 2868 01:33:12,440 --> 01:33:13,640 THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR 2869 01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,040 JOINING AND FOR GIVING ME THE 2870 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:15,960 OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT 2871 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:17,440 ABOUT SOME OF THE EVALUATIONS 2872 01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:21,160 THAT WE'VE GOT UNDERWAY AT 2873 01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:22,480 NIGMS, AND THEN ALSO THE REQUEST 2874 01:33:22,480 --> 01:33:24,760 THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TO HELP US 2875 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,320 IN OUR EVALUATION EFFORTS ACROSS 2876 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:26,760 THE INSTITUTE. 2877 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,920 SO I'LL GIVE KIND OF AN OVERVIEW 2878 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,720 OF EVALUATION AT NIGMS, WHAT THE 2879 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,880 SPECIFIC ASKS THAT WE HAVE FOR 2880 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,000 INTEGRATING COUNCIL'S INPUT AND 2881 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,440 THIS WORKING GROUP REQUEST INTO 2882 01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:40,400 THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND ALSO 2883 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:41,920 A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND 2884 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:42,800 INFORMATION ON TWO OF THE 2885 01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:43,720 BACKGROUND PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE 2886 01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:44,800 HOPING TO EVALUATE THROUGH THIS 2887 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:50,160 MECHANISM. 2888 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,040 SO IN TERMS OF EVALUATION 2889 01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,600 OVERALL, I'M GOING TO START WITH 2890 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,440 KIND OF WHY IS IT THAT -- WHAT'S 2891 01:33:57,440 --> 01:33:58,840 SORT OF THE GOVERNMENT 2892 01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,640 MOTIVATION AROUND CONDUCTING 2893 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:02,480 EVALUATIONS AND MAKING USE OF 2894 01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:03,840 STATISTICAL EVIDENCE FOR POLICY 2895 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,360 MAKING, SO THERE'S A LAW THAT 2896 01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,680 WAS PASSED IN 2018, WHICH YOU 2897 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,520 CAN SEE THE LONG NAME OF IT, 2898 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:10,680 FOUNDATIONS FOR EVIDENCE-BASED 2899 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,080 POLICY MAKING ACT, IT'S 2900 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:13,600 TYPICALLY KNOWN AS THE EVIDENCE 2901 01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,440 ACT INSTEAD, THAT BASICALLY 2902 01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:17,920 REQUIRES AGENCIES PLAN AND 2903 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,000 DEVELOP STATISTICAL EVIDENCE TO 2904 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:19,760 SUPPORT POLICY MAKING. 2905 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,040 SO THERE'S A LEGISLATIVE 2906 01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:22,960 REQUIREMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY 2907 01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,600 BEING IMPLEMENTED RIGHT NOW TO 2908 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:27,440 INTEGRATE EVALUATION AND 2909 01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:28,840 LEARNING AGENDAS AND ALL OF 2910 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:33,840 THESE OTHER THINGS INTO THE DATA 2911 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:39,840 PROCESSES OF AGENCIES OVERALL. 2912 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,680 HOWEVER, EVALUATION HAS ACTUALLY 2913 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,880 BEEN -- EVEN BEFORE THAT 2914 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,120 EVIDENCE ACT WAS PASSED, 2915 01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:46,960 EVALUATIONS HAVE BEEN SORT OF A 2916 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,400 KEY AS WECHT OF SOME OF THE WORK 2917 01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,160 THAT WE DO AT NIGMS, AND IT WAS 2918 01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,160 INCORPORATED AS A CROSS-CUTTING 2919 01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,360 THEME OF OUR 2021 TO 2025 2920 01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,680 STRATEGIC PLAN. 2921 01:34:58,680 --> 01:34:59,800 SO NOT ONLY IS THERE A NARRATIVE 2922 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,200 THAT LINKS EVALUATION ACROSS ALL 2923 01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:02,480 OF OUR GOALS BUT WE ALSO HAVE A 2924 01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:03,680 NUMBER OF METRICS AND MEASURES 2925 01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,880 AND MILESTONES FOR THE STRATEGIC 2926 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,120 PLAN THAT INCORPORATE BOTH THE 2927 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:10,560 CONDUCTING OF EVALUATIONS, 2928 01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:11,400 MAKING USE OF THAT INFORMATION 2929 01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,560 TO MAKE DECISIONS, AS WELL AS 2930 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,280 PUBLICIZING THE INFORMATION IN 2931 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:20,280 THE EVALUATIONS THAT WE CONDUCT. 2932 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:21,600 NOW, FOR SOME OF THE 2933 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,040 EVALUATIONS, WE DO CONVENE A 2934 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,080 WORKING GROUP OF COUNCIL AS AN 2935 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,640 EVALUATION PANEL, AND WE 2936 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:28,960 INCORPORATE REPRESENTATION FROM 2937 01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:30,440 EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS TO PROVIDE 2938 01:35:30,440 --> 01:35:31,760 INPUT AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO 2939 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,800 COUNCIL ON THOSE PROGRAMS BASED 2940 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,440 ON EVALUATION DATA THAT OUR TEAM 2941 01:35:36,440 --> 01:35:39,200 IN DMA PULLS TOGETHER AND HELPS 2942 01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:43,600 SORT OF SHEPPARD THAT PROCESS. 2943 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,560 THE RESULTS OF ALL OF THESE 2944 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,080 EVALUATIONS ARE AVAILABLE 2945 01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:48,280 PUBLICLY ON THE NIGMS WEBSITE AS 2946 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,960 PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO PROMOTE 2947 01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:51,880 TRANSPARENCY IN THE WORK THAT 2948 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:53,480 WE'RE DOING AND WHAT INFORMATION 2949 01:35:53,480 --> 01:35:55,680 IS BEING USED TO HELP INFORM 2950 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,040 DECISIONS AT THE INSTITUTE. 2951 01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,960 THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE 2952 01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:01,160 EVALUATION REPORTS, THE LESSONS 2953 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:02,760 LEARNED THAT WE GET FROM THE 2954 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,560 REPORTS THEMSELVES, AND THEN 2955 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,800 ALSO FOLLOW-UP ACTIVITIES SUCH 2956 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,000 AS THE MATERIALS THAT YOU HEARD 2957 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:13,400 FROM JOHN EARLI -- FROM JON ABOT 2958 01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:15,160 EARLIER TODAY AS THE SURE AND 2959 01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,360 SCORE PROGRAMS AS AN EXAMPLE OF 2960 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:18,360 THAT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON OUR 2961 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:18,800 WEBSITE. 2962 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,560 SO I'M GOING TO FOCUS NOW ON 2963 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,400 SORT OF THE ASK OF US TO HELP 2964 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:29,920 GET INPUT FROM WORKING GROUPS OF 2965 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,440 COUNCIL TO CONDUCT SOME OF THE 2966 01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:32,880 EVALUATIONS WE HAVE UPCOMING. 2967 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,320 THE WORKING GROUPS THAT WE 2968 01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,240 IMPANEL GENERALLY COMPRISE 2969 01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:38,760 EXTRAMURAL REPRESENTATIVES THAT 2970 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:39,840 HAVE EXPERIENCE RELATED TO THE 2971 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,360 PROGRAMS BEING EVALUATED. 2972 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:43,640 THEY INCLUDE AT LEAST ONE MEMBER 2973 01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,400 OF COUNCIL AND THE PROCESS BY 2974 01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,640 WHICH WE DO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY 2975 01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,280 WE'RE COMING TO YOU TO REQUEST 2976 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,840 THE IMPANELING OF OUR WORKING 2977 01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:51,240 GROUP. 2978 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,240 OUR TEAMS WITHIN NIGMS WILL THEN 2979 01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:54,960 START WORKING ON TRYING TO BUILD 2980 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,880 SORT OF THE IDEA OF WHAT 2981 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,920 COMPRISES THAT LEVEL OF 2982 01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,320 EXPERIENCE, EXPERTISE, AND 2983 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,200 DIVERSITY OF OPINION ON THE 2984 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,200 PANEL TO BE ABLE TO FORMULATE 2985 01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:07,560 IT. 2986 01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,160 SO THAT'S NOT EXPLICITLY 2987 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,560 SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS TO 2988 01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,000 SORT OF DO AS PART OF THE JOB. 2989 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,200 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN 2990 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:23,240 HANDLE WITH INPUT. 2991 01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,000 THE PANELS THEMSELVES FOCUS ON 2992 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,400 FOUR OVERARCHING QUESTIONS. 2993 01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:30,400 AND THOSE ARE, HAS THE PROGRAM 2994 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,680 BEING EVALUATED -- THESE ARE 2995 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,200 TRUE OF ALL OF OUR EVALUATIONS 2996 01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:35,320 THAT HAVE PANELS, SO THESE ARE 2997 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:36,440 SORT OF THE OVERARCHING 2998 01:37:36,440 --> 01:37:37,600 QUESTIONS THAT EVERYONE'S ASKED 2999 01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:38,720 WITH SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF 3000 01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:42,040 THEM BEING MORE TAILORED TO THE 3001 01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:45,560 GOALS OF AN INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM 3002 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,080 OR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF 3003 01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:48,120 CONTEXTS IN WHICH THE EVALUATION 3004 01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,120 IS TAKING PLACE. 3005 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,200 SO THE FOUR QUESTIONS ARE, HAS 3006 01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,720 THE PROGRAM BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN 3007 01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,840 MEETING ITS STATED OBJECTIVES, 3008 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,320 ARE THE STATE OF OBJECTIVES 3009 01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:57,800 APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROGRAM AND 3010 01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:58,920 ITS INTENDED IMPACTS? 3011 01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,880 CAN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE PROGRAM 3012 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,440 BE OPTIMIZED, IMPROVED OR 3013 01:38:02,440 --> 01:38:03,080 STRENGTHENED? 3014 01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,640 AND THEN KIND OF TO WRAP 3015 01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:05,840 EVERYTHING UP TOGETHER, WHAT KEY 3016 01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:07,280 FINDINGS AND POTENTIAL 3017 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,240 RECOMMENDATIRECOMMENDATIONS CANE 3018 01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:11,680 ABOUT THE PROGRAMS? 3019 01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:12,960 YOU'LL NOTICE THESE ARE KIND OF 3020 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,560 FORMULATED AND BINARY YES/NO 3021 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:15,120 QUESTIONS. 3022 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:16,120 GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN THE 3023 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,520 REPORTS COME OUT AND WHEN THE 3024 01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,600 INFORMATION IS LOOKED AT BY THE 3025 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:23,920 PANEL, A MORE NUANCED PICTURE OF 3026 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:24,920 WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON AND 3027 01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,240 MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THAT 3028 01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,040 MEANS AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE 3029 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:29,880 YES/NO ANSWER IS GENERALLY WHAT 3030 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,680 ENDS UP COMING OUT OF THESE 3031 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:35,080 DISCUSSIONS. 3032 01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:36,680 THE DIVISION OF DATA INTEGRATION 3033 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,280 MODELING AND ANALYTICS STAFF 3034 01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,400 OFTEN -- THAT WE PROVIDE DATA TO 3035 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:41,600 THE WORKING GROUP TO AID IN 3036 01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:42,720 THESE DISCUSSIONS. 3037 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,600 WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK 3038 01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:45,600 LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS 3039 01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,640 INFORMATION TO HELP PREPARE FOR 3040 01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,040 THE ASK SO THAT THAT WAY WE HAVE 3041 01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,080 MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED TO 3042 01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,800 HELP PROMOTE THAT DISCUSSION AND 3043 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:57,240 TO HELP MAKE THE WORK OF THE 3044 01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,000 WORKING GROUP EASIER IN THAT 3045 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,160 REGARD. 3046 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:04,640 THE WORKING GROUP THEN WILL 3047 01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,360 REPORT FINDINGS AND 3048 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:07,880 RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE LARGER 3049 01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,080 OPEN COUNCIL OF NIGMS, AND THERE 3050 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:12,800 HAVE BEEN A COUPLE CASES IN THE 3051 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,560 PAST WHERE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN 3052 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:15,520 SOME COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS WHERE 3053 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:16,960 THAT'S BEEN A REPORT OUT. 3054 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,920 THE MOST RECENT ONE, I BELIEVE, 3055 01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:26,320 WAS FOR THE NARCH PROGRAM. 3056 01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,440 WE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION 3057 01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:30,680 PUBLICLY AFTER THAT OPEN SESSION 3058 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,240 AND AFTER THE INPUT FROM THE 3059 01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:33,560 LARGER COUNCIL ON WHAT THE 3060 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,400 WORKING GROUP HAS FOUND. 3061 01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:40,040 AND NOW -- SO THAT'S KIND OF 3062 01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:46,280 TALKING ABOUT THE OVERVIEW. 3063 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,120 I'M GOING TO TRANSITION TO THE 3064 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:49,520 TWO PROGRAMS WE'RE GOING TO BE 3065 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:50,720 REQUESTING THE IMPANELING OF 3066 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,160 WORKING GROUPS FOR. 3067 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:54,000 THE FIRST PROGRAM WHICH IS 3068 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,640 CALLED THE BRIDGES TO THE 3069 01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:57,520 BACCALAUREATE PROGRAM IS HOUSED 3070 01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:00,280 WITHIN OUR TRAINING WORKFORCE 3071 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:01,480 DEVELOPMENT AND DIVERSITY 3072 01:40:01,480 --> 01:40:03,720 DIVISION. 3073 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:08,000 AND THE B2B PROGRAM SUPPORTS 3074 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,680 STUDENTS IN BIOMEDICAL SCIENCES 3075 01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,640 WHO ARE PLANNING A TRANSFER FROM 3076 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,200 COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO 3077 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,280 BACHELOR'S DEGREE INSTITUTIONS. 3078 01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:16,800 ONE OF THE CURRENT GOALS IS TO 3079 01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,680 ACTUALLY THEN COMPLETE THE 3080 01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:21,160 FOUR-YEAR DEGREE. 3081 01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:22,320 THESE PROGRAMS INCLUDE 3082 01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,120 PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THOSE 3083 01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:24,920 TWO-YEAR ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE 3084 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:25,880 GRANTING INSTITUTIONS OR 3085 01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,640 COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND THE FOUR 3086 01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,600 YEARS BACHELOR'S DEGREE 3087 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,600 INSTITUTIONS. 3088 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,520 PARTICIPATING INSTITUTIONS WORK 3089 01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:36,400 TOWARDS DEVELOPING AND EXPANDING 3090 01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,920 ACTIVITIES THAT ENHANCE THAT 3091 01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,040 PROGRAM'S ABILITIES TO SUPPORT 3092 01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:43,320 THOSE TRANSITIONS FOR COMMUNITY 3093 01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,200 COLLEGE STUDENTS AND THEN ALSO 3094 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,640 TO ENHANCE THE COMPETITIVENESS 3095 01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,040 OF SCIENCE GRADUATES FOR FUTURE 3096 01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,280 CAREERS. 3097 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,920 AND THEN THE LAST NOTE, ON THIS 3098 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:55,120 ONE, PARTICIPATING INSTITUTIONS 3099 01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,520 ARE ASKED TO CONDUCT SELF 3100 01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,600 ASSESSMENTS OF RATES OF 3101 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:00,560 ENROLLMENT, TRANSFER RESEARCH 3102 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:01,920 EDUCATION EXPERIENCES AND 3103 01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,240 GRADUATION OF STUDENTS FROM 3104 01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:04,160 DIFFERENT GROUPS RELATIVE TO 3105 01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:05,760 THEIR OWN INSTITUTIONAL 3106 01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,200 BASELINE, SO A LOT OF THE 3107 01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,320 INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED IS 3108 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:10,640 RELATED TO THOSE TYPES OF 3109 01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,840 OUTCOMES FOR THAT PROGRAM. 3110 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,840 THE OTHER PROGRAM THAT WE'RE 3111 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,120 HOPING TO EVALUATE AND 3112 01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,720 INCORPORATE A WORKING GROUP OF 3113 01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:26,520 COUNCIL IS THE IDEA NETWORK OF 3114 01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:31,720 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH EXCELLENCE. 3115 01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,120 SO THE INBRE PROGRAM PROVIDES 3116 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:34,920 STATEWIDE NETWORKS FOR THE 3117 01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:35,840 DEVELOP M, COORDINATION AND 3118 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,200 SHARING OF RESEARCH RESOURCES 3119 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:38,160 AND EXPERTISE. 3120 01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:41,360 IT IS PART OF THE OVERARCHING 3121 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:42,800 INSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AWARD 3122 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,440 PROGRAM THAT'S MANAGED BY NIGMS, 3123 01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:47,520 AND IT'S ONE OF THREE OF THE 3124 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,440 LARGER COMPONENTS OF THAT 3125 01:41:49,440 --> 01:41:50,000 OVERARCHING PROGRAM. 3126 01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,200 SO THE FOCUS HERE IS ON BUILDING 3127 01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,840 THOSE NETWORKS AS OPPOSED TO 3128 01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,360 OTHER PROGRAMS WHICH MAY FOCUS 3129 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,480 ON CERTAIN CENTERS OF BIOMEDICAL 3130 01:41:58,480 --> 01:41:59,880 RESEARCH EXCELLENCE OR ON 3131 01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:04,440 CLINICAL TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH. 3132 01:42:04,440 --> 01:42:06,840 NEXT, SO EACH IDEA STATE 3133 01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,360 CURRENTLY HAS ONE INBRE AWARD 3134 01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:10,600 WITH THE IDEA THAT THAT COVERS 3135 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,800 THE ENTIRE STATE'S NETWORK. 3136 01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:15,960 THOSE GRANTS CAN INCLUDE 3137 01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:17,840 ADMINISTRATIVE, DATA SCIENCE AND 3138 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,280 RESEARCH CORES ALONG WITH 3139 01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:20,280 DEVELOPMENTAL RESEARCH PROJECT 3140 01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:21,800 AND STUDENT RESEARCH EXPERIENCE 3141 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,840 PROGRAMS, SO THERE'S A LARGE 3142 01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:25,600 SWATH OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF 3143 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,320 ACTIVITIES THAT THESE PROGRAMS 3144 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,440 CAN CONDUCT AS PART OF THE 3145 01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:32,840 NETWORK BUILDING AND CAPACITY 3146 01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:37,880 BUILDING ACTIVITY. 3147 01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:39,520 THE NETWORKS THEMSELVES INCLUDE 3148 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,840 PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN RESEARCH 3149 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,520 INTENSIVE INSTITUTIONS AND ALSO 3150 01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,160 PRIMARILY UNDERGRADUATE 3151 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:46,480 INSTITUTIONS, COMMUNITY 3152 01:42:46,480 --> 01:42:47,520 COLLEGES, AND TRIBALLY 3153 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:48,320 CONTROLLED COLLEGES AND 3154 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:48,720 UNIVERSITIES. 3155 01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,400 SO THIS NETWORK IS DESIGNED TO 3156 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,840 COVER A LARGE SWATH OF SORT OF 3157 01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:58,160 THE EDUCATIONAL AND RESEARCH 3158 01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,800 ECOSYSTEM IN THOSE STATES. 3159 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,280 SO THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF 3160 01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:04,880 BOTH OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE 3161 01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,080 HOPING TO HAVE -- OR THAT WE'RE 3162 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:08,320 HOPING TO EVALUATE OVER THE 3163 01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:09,360 COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR. 3164 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,040 AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE END 3165 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:12,360 OF MY SLIDE DECK, SO IF THERE 3166 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:16,320 ARE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR 3167 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,160 THOUGHTS, I WELCOME THEM. 3168 01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:20,400 >>SO AGAIN THE GOAL HERE IS 3169 01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,280 THAT WE NEED COUNCIL'S APPROVAL 3170 01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:23,600 TO IMPANEL THESE TWO WORKING 3171 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:24,600 GROUPS, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU 3172 01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:26,440 HAVE ANY INPUT AT THIS STAGE, 3173 01:43:26,440 --> 01:43:27,560 WE'LL TAKE A VOTE IN A MINUTE, 3174 01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,360 BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT AT 3175 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:30,440 THIS STAGE, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR 3176 01:43:30,440 --> 01:43:37,120 IT. 3177 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:38,520 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S INPUT, 3178 01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:39,080 SO ERICA? 3179 01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:40,880 >>OKAY. 3180 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:42,720 SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE 3181 01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,160 VOTING, SO I'LL SET SOME OF THE 3182 01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:45,520 GROUND RULES HERE. 3183 01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,720 SO TO KEEP THE VOTING PROCEDURES 3184 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,000 AS STREAMLINED IN THIS VIRTUAL 3185 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:51,400 ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE OF WHO YOU 3186 01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,200 HAVE BEEN WITH US BEFORE, YOU'LL 3187 01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,640 KNOW THAT I WILL CALL FOR A 3188 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,720 MOTION AND THEN ASK FOR ANY 3189 01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,400 OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION. 3190 01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:00,720 THAT'S JUST EASIER TO MANAGE 3191 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:01,080 VIRTUALLY. 3192 01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,040 AND WHAT YOU'LL DO IS YOU'LL 3193 01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:04,800 RAISE YOUR HAND, USING THE RAISE 3194 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,800 HAND FEATURE IN ZOOM. 3195 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,800 IF YOU OBJECT TO THE MOTION. 3196 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,520 SO FIRST WE WILL CONSIDER THE 3197 01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,760 BRIDGES TO THE BACCALAUREATE 3198 01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:16,000 PROGRAM. 3199 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:17,200 I MOVE WE APPROVE THIS PLAN FOR 3200 01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:18,320 THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A WORKING 3201 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:18,720 GROUP. 3202 01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:19,720 ARE ANY OPPOSED? 3203 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,760 PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND USING THE 3204 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:27,120 ZOOM FEATURE. 3205 01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:27,600 OKAY. 3206 01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:29,080 LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE UNANIMOUS 3207 01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:29,920 APPROVAL FOR THAT. 3208 01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,840 AND THEN FOR THE INBR EVIDENT, I 3209 01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:34,640 MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS PLAN 3210 01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:35,560 FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF A WORKING 3211 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:35,840 GROUP. 3212 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:41,880 ARE ANY OPPOSED? 3213 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:43,080 OKAY, APPROVAL FOR THAT AS WELL. 3214 01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:43,400 THANK YOU. 3215 01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:44,480 >>SO OF COURSE THIS MEANS THAT 3216 01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:46,240 SOME OF YOU WILL BE ASKED TO BE 3217 01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:47,560 ON THESE WORKING GROUPS. 3218 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:49,120 SO HOPEFULLY THAT WAS CLEAR TO 3219 01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:51,640 YOU IN ADVANCE, BUT -- IF NOT, 3220 01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,000 YOU NOW KNOW. 3221 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:55,400 SO WE HAVE SOMEHOW MANAGED TO 3222 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:56,840 GET RIGHT BACK ON TIME, SO WE'RE 3223 01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,600 NOW GOING TO TAKE A 10-MINUTE 3224 01:44:58,600 --> 01:44:58,800 BREAK. 3225 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,160 IF YOU CAN COME BACK AT 11:25, 3226 01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,200 WE WILL DO THE CONCEPT 3227 01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:05,000 CLEARANCES AND ASSOCIATED 3228 01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:05,480 DISCUSSION. 3229 01:45:05,480 --> 01:45:15,960 SO SEE YOU AT 11:25. 3230 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,080 AS A REMINDER, IF WE WANT TO 3231 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,280 REISSUE AN EXISTING PROGRAM OR 3232 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:22,480 START A NEW PROGRAM, WE NEED TO 3233 01:45:22,480 --> 01:45:23,720 DISCUSS IT WITH COUNCIL, GET 3234 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,920 YOUR FEEDBACK, AND THEN GET YOUR 3235 01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,440 FORMAL APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH 3236 01:45:30,440 --> 01:45:30,840 THAT. 3237 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,240 SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE TWO 3238 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,840 DIFFERENT FLAVORS OF CONCEPT 3239 01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:34,600 CLEARANCES HERE. 3240 01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:36,000 THE FIRST WHICH WE'LL DO FAIRLY 3241 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,000 QUICKLY WILL BE PROGRAMS WE 3242 01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:38,200 ALREADY HAVE RUNNING AND THAT WE 3243 01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,320 ARE JUST REISSUING WITH LITTLE 3244 01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:44,720 TO NO CHANGES TO THE PROGRAMS. 3245 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,360 SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE. 3246 01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,280 THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 3247 01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,120 COMPLETELY NEW PROGRAM THAT YOU 3248 01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:52,240 WILL -- WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A 3249 01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:53,440 LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT, 3250 01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:54,680 AND THEN WE'LL ASK AGAIN FOR 3251 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:55,680 APPROVAL OF THAT ONE. 3252 01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,080 SO WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADO, NEXT 3253 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,160 SLIDE, PLEASE. 3254 01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:02,480 THE FIRST TWO PROGRAMS, WHICH 3255 01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:04,880 AGAIN WE ARE HOPING TO REISSUE 3256 01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,200 WITH NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES ARE 3257 01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:11,000 THE PREDOCTORAL DIVERSITY 3258 01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,400 ENHASMENT PROGRAMS, G-RISE AND 3259 01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:14,000 IMSD. 3260 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:15,080 THE PURPOSE IS TO DEVELOP A 3261 01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:16,320 DIVERSE POOL OF SCIENTISTS 3262 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:21,080 EARNING EARNING PH.D.s WHO HAVEE 3263 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:22,520 SKILLS TO SUCCESSFULLY 3264 01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:28,440 TRANSITION INTO CAREERS INTO THE 3265 01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:29,000 BIOWORKFORCE. 3266 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,000 TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT 3267 01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:34,200 EFFECTIVE EVIDENCE AND FORMED 3268 01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:35,480 APPROACHES TO BIOLOGICAL 3269 01:46:35,480 --> 01:46:36,520 GRADUATE TRAINING AND MENTORING 3270 01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:38,360 THAT KEEP PACE WITH THE RAPID 3271 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,520 EVOLUTION OF THE BIOMEDICAL 3272 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:40,960 RESEARCH ENTERPRISE. 3273 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,520 AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A DISCUSSION 3274 01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:43,960 EARLIER ABOUT SOME OF THAT 3275 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,840 EVOLUTION IN TERMS OF THE 3276 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,040 POSTDOCTORAL LANDSCAPE. 3277 01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,000 NIGMS EXPECTS THAT THE PROPOSED 3278 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,480 RESEARCH TRAINING PROGRAMS WILL 3279 01:46:52,480 --> 01:46:54,320 INCORPORATE DIDACTIC ELEMENTS, 3280 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,600 RESEARCH, MENTORING AND CAREER 3281 01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:58,920 DEVELOPMENT TO PREPARE TRAINEES 3282 01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:00,920 FOR CAREERS THAT WILL HAVE A 3283 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:02,600 SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE 3284 01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:03,560 HEALTH-RELATED RESEARCH NEEDS OF 3285 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:05,400 THE COUNTRY. 3286 01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,440 THE REASON THERE ARE TWO 3287 01:47:07,440 --> 01:47:09,000 PROGRAMS THAT ARE BOTH DOING THE 3288 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,840 SAME THING IS THAT THEY ARE 3289 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,320 TARGETING DIFFERENT INSTITUTION 3290 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:13,760 TYPES. 3291 01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,240 AND THE ELIGIBILITY IS BASED ON 3292 01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,400 THE AMOUNT OF NIH RESEARCH 3293 01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,680 PROJECT GRANT FUNDING THAT THE 3294 01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:22,560 INSTITUTION HAS GOTTEN EACH YEAR 3295 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,520 OVER THE LAST THREE FISCAL 3296 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:25,200 YEARS. 3297 01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:26,400 SO FOR INSTITUTIONS THAT AVERAGE 3298 01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,840 LESS THAN 7 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS 3299 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,840 IN RESEARCH PROJECT GRANT 3300 01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,320 FUNDING FROM NIH OVER THOSE 3301 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,680 THREE YEARS, THOSE ARE 3302 01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:35,880 INSTITUTIONS THAT WE DESIGNATE 3303 01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,560 AS RESEARCH-ACTIVE INSTITUTIONS, 3304 01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:40,200 AND THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE 3305 01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,560 G-RISE PROGRAM, THE GRADUATE 3306 01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,600 RESEARCH TRAINING INITIATIVE FOR 3307 01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,000 STUDENT DEVELOPMENT. 3308 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,320 FOR STUDENT ENHANCEMENT. 3309 01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:49,720 SORRY. 3310 01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:50,920 FOR INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE HAD 3311 01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:54,640 GREATER THAN $7.5 MILLION IN RPG 3312 01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,560 FUNDING OVER THE THREE YEARS ON 3313 01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:57,640 AVERAGE, THOSE ARE INSTITUTIONS 3314 01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:01,480 WE CALL RESEARCH-INTENSIVE, AND 3315 01:48:01,480 --> 01:48:03,160 THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE 3316 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,120 INITIATIVE FOR MAXIMIZING 3317 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,400 STUDENT DEVELOPMENT, IMSD. 3318 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:08,520 WE'RE PLANNING TO REISSUE THOSE 3319 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,600 PROGRAMS WITH NO SUBSTANTIAL 3320 01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:10,960 CHANGES. 3321 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,040 I'LL JUST REMIND YOU THAT G-RISE 3322 01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:20,000 IS TRANSITIONING -- AND IMSD ARE 3323 01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,800 TRANSITIONING TO T-32s. 3324 01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,840 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT 3325 01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,600 THAT PROGRAM? 3326 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,560 THEN I NEED TO TAKE A VOTE, OR 3327 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:32,880 ERICA, YOU NEED TO TAKE A VOTE. 3328 01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:33,160 >>RIGHT. 3329 01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:34,880 SO I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THESE 3330 01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,120 CONCEPTS FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT 3331 01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:37,920 AS A FOA. 3332 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:39,120 ANYONE OPPOSED? 3333 01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:40,120 AGAIN, YOU RAISE YOUR HANDS 3334 01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,800 USING THE ZOOM FEATURE. 3335 01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,080 THE MOTION IS UNANIMOUSLY 3336 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:45,360 APPROVED. 3337 01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:45,760 >>EXCELLENT. 3338 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,680 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 3339 01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:52,240 THE NEXT ONE IS THE NIGMS HUMAN 3340 01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,120 GENETIC CELERY SUPPOSITORY, 3341 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:54,560 HGCR. 3342 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:59,080 THIS IS A LONGSTANDING 3343 01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:00,040 NIGMS-FUNDED REPOSITORY, THE 3344 01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,800 PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO SUPPORT A 3345 01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,560 REPOSITORY THAT ACQUIRES CELL 3346 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:06,880 SAMPLES FROM BOTH HEALTHY 3347 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:07,880 INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS THOSE 3348 01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,600 AFFECTED BY YES NE TICK 3349 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:10,920 DISORDERS, AND ALSO FROM 3350 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,280 DISTINCT POPULATIONS. 3351 01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,000 THE REPOSITORY WILL MAINTAIN THE 3352 01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:17,760 CURRENT COLLECTION OF CELL 3353 01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:19,680 CULTURES AND DNA SAMPLES, 3354 01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:21,640 ACQUIRE, CHARACTERIZE AND EXPAND 3355 01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:23,280 HIGH QUALITY CELL SAMPLES, 3356 01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:26,040 DISTRIBUTE CELL LINES AND DNA 3357 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:27,600 ISOLATED FROM THEM TO QUALIFIED 3358 01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,360 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCHERS, AND 3359 01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,040 PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CUSTOM 3360 01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,400 SERVICES AS REQUESTED BY THE 3361 01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:34,240 SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY AND 3362 01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,120 INDICATED BY SCIENTIFIC 3363 01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:37,480 DEVELOPMENTS. 3364 01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:39,080 NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES ARE 3365 01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,080 PLANNED TO THIS FOA. 3366 01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,320 AND AGAIN, THIS IS A 3367 01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:44,840 LONGSTANDING RESOURCE THAT IS 3368 01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,640 QUITE ROBUSTLY UTILIZED BY BOTH 3369 01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,560 THE ACADEMIC RESEARCH COMMUNITY 3370 01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,720 AS WELL AS INDUSTRY. 3371 01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:57,800 FOR THEIR RESEARCH NEEDS. 3372 01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,160 ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? 3373 01:49:59,160 --> 01:49:59,480 OKAY, ERICA. 3374 01:49:59,480 --> 01:50:00,920 >>I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS 3375 01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:02,680 CONCEPT FOR FURTHER FOA 3376 01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:03,280 DEVELOPMENT. 3377 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:07,240 ARE ANY OPPOSED? 3378 01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:08,880 THE MOTION IS UNANIMOUSLY 3379 01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:09,120 APPROVED. 3380 01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:09,680 >>OKAY. 3381 01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,880 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 3382 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:17,080 NOW THE NEXT THREE CONCEPTS ARE 3383 01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:18,160 FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE 3384 01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:19,560 COLLABORATIONS WITH THE NATIONAL 3385 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:20,640 SCIENCE FOUNDATION. 3386 01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:22,080 AND I WANT TO JUST GIVE YOU A 3387 01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:23,840 LITTLE OVERVIEW OF HOW OUR 3388 01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:27,440 COLLABORATIONS WITH THE NSF 3389 01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:27,800 WORK. 3390 01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,000 THE WAY THEY WORK IS NSF PUTS 3391 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:34,000 OUT WHAT THEY CALL SOLICITATION, 3392 01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,440 WHAT WE CALL OUR FOA, FOR 3393 01:50:35,440 --> 01:50:36,320 APPLICATIONS. 3394 01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:37,960 THEY'RE SUBMITTED TO THE NSF. 3395 01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:39,840 WE HIGHLIGHT THEM IN AN NIH 3396 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,440 GUIDE NOTICE, SO THERE'S ALSO AN 3397 01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:42,360 NIH NOTICE OF THIS PROGRAM THAT 3398 01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:46,920 POINTS TO THE NSF SOLICITATION. 3399 01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,000 THE NSF REVIEWS THE APPLICATIONS 3400 01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,320 IN COLLABORATION WITH NIGMS OR 3401 01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:53,760 IN SOME CASES OTHER NIH 3402 01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,760 SCIENTIFIC REVIEW OFFICERS. 3403 01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,000 AFTER THE REVIEW, AN NIH SCORE 3404 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,160 AND SUMMARY STATEMENT IS 3405 01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:02,800 GENERATED BY NIGMS REVIEW 3406 01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:04,200 OFFICERS. 3407 01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,400 SO THERE'S BOTH AN NSF VERSION 3408 01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:07,360 AND NIH VERSION. 3409 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,760 PROGRAM OFFICERS FROM BOTH 3410 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,520 AGENCIES THEN ASSESS THE 3411 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,400 REVIEWED APPLICATIONS AND DECIDE 3412 01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,000 WHICH ONES ARE OF INTEREST TO 3413 01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,600 NSF VERSUS TO NIH. 3414 01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,320 APPLICATIONS OF INTEREST TO 3415 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,840 NIGMS THEN COME TO YOU TO 3416 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:23,800 UNDERGO COUNCIL REVIEW IN THE 3417 01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:25,960 CLOSED SESSION, AND THEN WE MAKE 3418 01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,720 FUNDING CONSIDERATIONS FOR THOSE 3419 01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,200 TOGETHER WITH THE REGULAR NIH 3420 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,600 R01 GRANTS THAT COME TO NIGMS. 3421 01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:36,560 SO THAT'S HOW THESE PROGRAMS ARE 3422 01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:40,200 SET UP. 3423 01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,800 THE FIRST ONE IS THE NEW VERSION 3424 01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:49,880 OF WHAT WAS CALLED SCISIPBIO, 3425 01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,840 NOW A SCIENCE OF SCIENCE 3426 01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:53,560 APPROACH TO ANALYZING AND 3427 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:54,680 INNOVATING THE BIOMEDICAL 3428 01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,160 RESEARCH ENTERPRISE FOR SOS:BIO. 3429 01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:58,760 HAVE TO SAY, DON'T LOVE THE 3430 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,280 ACRONYM SOS, BUT I WASN'T THE 3431 01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,160 ONE WHO CAME UP WITH IT. 3432 01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:03,880 AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GO WITH 3433 01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:04,760 IT. 3434 01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:06,440 THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO 3435 01:52:06,440 --> 01:52:08,040 DEVELOP A PORTFOLIO OF HIGH 3436 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:11,200 QUALITY RESEARCH TO SUPPORT 3437 01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:15,600 RESEARCH AND ANAL SIZ OF ANALYSE 3438 01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:16,800 IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE 3439 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:17,840 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH ENTERPRISE 3440 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,920 IN EFFORTS TO FOSTER A DIVERSE 3441 01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:21,120 INNOVATIVE PRODUCTIVE AND 3442 01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:22,600 EFFICIENT SCIENTIFIC WORKFORCE 3443 01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:24,120 FROM WHICH FUTURE RESEARCH 3444 01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:25,000 DISCOVERIES AND SCIENTIFIC 3445 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,520 LEADERS WILL EMERGE. 3446 01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,680 AS I MENTIONED, THIS USED TO BE 3447 01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,520 CALLED SCISIPBIO. 3448 01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,200 THE NAME HAS BEEN UPDATED TO 3449 01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,080 ALIGN WITH THE BROADER NAME OF 3450 01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:39,160 THE DISCOVERY COMMUNICATION 3451 01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:40,160 IMPACT PROGRAM, SO THEY HAVE 3452 01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,200 THEIR BROADER PROGRAM, THIS IS A 3453 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:45,280 SUBPROGRAM OF THAT. 3454 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:46,600 WE DON'T PLAN OTHER THAN THE 3455 01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:47,880 NAME CHANGE ANY SUBSTANTIAL 3456 01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:54,320 CHANGES TO THIS PROGRAM. 3457 01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:55,360 THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT I THINK 3458 01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,200 THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF INTEREST 3459 01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:58,200 GOVERNMENT-WIDE AS KIND OF THE 3460 01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:01,880 OVERALL CONCEPT OF META SCIENCE 3461 01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:03,320 GROWS, AND ANDREW MENTIONED THE 3462 01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:04,600 EVIDENCE ACT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I 3463 01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,200 THINK THIS REALLY IN SOME WAYS 3464 01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:08,160 FITS QUITE WELL WITH THE GOALS 3465 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,040 OF THE EVIDENCE ACT OF REALLY 3466 01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,440 INTERROGATING GOVERNMENT 3467 01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:14,800 PROGRAMS TO ASSESS HOW WELL 3468 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:15,920 THEY'RE ACTUALLY FUNCTIONING AND 3469 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:17,120 THEN USING THAT INFORMATION TO 3470 01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:18,440 MAKE CHANGES TO THEM AS 3471 01:53:18,440 --> 01:53:20,120 NECESSARY. 3472 01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:26,960 ERICA. 3473 01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:28,040 ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON 3474 01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:28,680 THAT PROGRAM? 3475 01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:29,800 >>OKAY. 3476 01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:32,160 I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS 3477 01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:33,240 CONCEPT FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT 3478 01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:35,560 AS AN FOA. 3479 01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:39,120 ARE ANY OPPOSED? 3480 01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,000 THE MOTION IS UNANIMOUSLY 3481 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:41,280 APPROVED. 3482 01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:42,960 >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3483 01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:49,560 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 3484 01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,400 SO THE NEXT ONE IS ANOTHER 3485 01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:54,240 LONG-STANDING -- THIS IS 3486 01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:55,440 ACTUALLY EVEN LONGER STANDING 3487 01:53:55,440 --> 01:53:56,880 COLLABORATION WITH THE NSF, AND 3488 01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,240 THIS IS WITH THEIR DIVISION OF 3489 01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:00,800 MATHEMATICAL SCIENCES AND IT'S 3490 01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,760 THE JOINT DMS NIGMS INITIATIVE 3491 01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:05,000 TO SUPPORT RESEARCH AT THE 3492 01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:06,880 INTERFACE OF THE BIOLOGICAL AND 3493 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:08,000 MATHEMATICAL SCIENCES, ALSO 3494 01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:11,320 CALLED THE BIOMATH PROGRAM. 3495 01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:12,840 THIS SUPPORTS FUNDAMENTAL 3496 01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:14,720 RESEARCH IN MATHEMATICS AND 3497 01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,160 STATISTICS TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS 3498 01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,720 IN THE BIOLOGICAL AND BIOMEDICAL 3499 01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,320 SCIENCES. 3500 01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:21,920 IT ENHANCES COLLABORATION 3501 01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,680 BETWEEN THE MATHEMATICAL SIGH 3502 01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:25,000 INS COMMUNITY AND THE BIOMEDICAL 3503 01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:25,680 RESEARCH COMMUNITY. 3504 01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,560 IT ENCOURAGES NEW COLLABORATIONS 3505 01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:29,480 AND INNOVATIVE ACTIVITY BY 3506 01:54:29,480 --> 01:54:32,640 EXISTING COLLABORATIVE TEAMS, 3507 01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:33,840 AND NIGMS'S HOPE IS THAT WHAT 3508 01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:38,400 THIS WILL DO FOR US IS TO BRING 3509 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,560 MATHEMATICIANS AND STATISTICIANS 3510 01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:44,960 INTO THE NIH FUNDING ECOSYSTEM, 3511 01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:46,680 PEOPLE WHO OTHERWISE PROBABLY 3512 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,400 WOULD NOT HAVE THOUGHT TO APPLY 3513 01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:52,560 OR KNOWN HOW TO APPLY TO NIH FOR 3514 01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:52,920 FUNDING. 3515 01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:54,720 WE HAVE NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES 3516 01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:55,760 TO THIS AS WELL. 3517 01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:57,040 ARE THERE ANY THOUGHT OR 3518 01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:02,200 QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? 3519 01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:02,720 OKAY. 3520 01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:03,200 ERICA? 3521 01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,080 >>I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS 3522 01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:06,280 CONCEPT FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT 3523 01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:07,400 AS AN FOA. 3524 01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,680 ARE ANY OPPOSED? 3525 01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,400 THE MOTION IS UNANIMOUSLY 3526 01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:12,680 APPROVED. 3527 01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:13,080 >>OKAY. 3528 01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:14,960 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 3529 01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:16,440 AND THEN THE LAST COLLABORATION 3530 01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:18,720 WITH NSF IS THE RESEARCH 3531 01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:21,160 COLLABORATORY FOR STRUCTURAL 3532 01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:21,800 BIOINFORMATICS, OTHERWISE KNOWN 3533 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,760 AS THE PROTEIN DATA BANK, THE 3534 01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:26,520 PBD. 3535 01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:27,320 PROBABLY MOST OF YOU ARE 3536 01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:29,480 FAMILIAR WITH THE PBD. 3537 01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:31,360 THE PURPOSE IS TO SERVE AS THE 3538 01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,760 PRIMARY INTERNATIONAL REPOSITORY 3539 01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,920 FOR EXPERIMENTALLY DETERMINING 3540 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:43,240 MACRO PLEK NAR DATA. 3541 01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,080 THE RESEARCH ALSO SUPPORTS 3542 01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:45,960 EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND 3543 01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:47,440 PUBLIC OUTREACH RELATED TO 3544 01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:48,800 STRUCTURAL BIOLOGY. 3545 01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,680 THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP AS I SAID 3546 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:53,920 WITH NSF, BUT ALSO NCI, NIAID, 3547 01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:57,160 AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, 3548 01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,160 THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY 3549 01:55:59,160 --> 01:55:59,960 PROVIDES SUPPORT ALONG WITH 3550 01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:03,760 NIGMS FOR THE PROGRAM. 3551 01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:04,960 NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES ARE 3552 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:05,560 PROPOSED. 3553 01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:09,520 I THINK THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS 3554 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,440 PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS 3555 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:12,240 UNDERSCORED BY THE DISCUSSION WE 3556 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:13,640 WERE HAVING OF THE DATA 3557 01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,600 MANAGEMENT AND SHARING PLANS. 3558 01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:20,000 THIS IS A DEFINED REPOSITORY 3559 01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:23,600 USING CLEAR STANDARDS THAT THE 3560 01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:27,320 COMMUNITY CAN USE TO PUT THEIR 3561 01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:28,480 STRUCTURAL DATA AND ALLOW 3562 01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,200 SHARING OF THOSE DATA IN A VERY 3563 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:32,960 WELL ORGANIZED WAY. 3564 01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:39,400 ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PDB? 3565 01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:39,960 OKAY. 3566 01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:40,160 ERICA? 3567 01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:42,680 >>I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS 3568 01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:44,320 CONCEPT FOR NIGMS COLLABORATION 3569 01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:45,640 IN THIS PROGRAM. 3570 01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:51,280 ARE ANY OPPOSED? 3571 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:51,760 OKAY. 3572 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:52,720 WE'RE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED 3573 01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:52,920 AGAIN. 3574 01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:56,640 >>NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 3575 01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:57,640 SO THAT IS THAT. 3576 01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:58,600 THEN WE'RE NOW GOING TO 3577 01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:02,120 TRANSITION TO A NEW PROGRAM. 3578 01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:07,240 AND THIS PROGRAM -- CAN I HAVE 3579 01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:09,440 THE NEXT SLIDE SET, PLEASE. 3580 01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,640 THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE UNITE 3581 01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:16,520 INITIATIVES. 3582 01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,160 DO WE HAVE THE SLIDES FOR THIS? 3583 01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:22,760 THANK YOU, DAVIDED. 3584 01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:23,200 DAVID. 3585 01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,240 SO THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE 3586 01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:29,520 UNITE INITIATIVES, AN NIH WIDE 3587 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,520 INITIATIVE DESIGNED TO ADDRESS 3588 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:32,200 STRUCTURAL RACISM WITHIN THE 3589 01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:33,320 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH WORKFORCE. 3590 01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:34,600 IT HAS A NUMBER OF COMPONENTS. 3591 01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,640 ONE OF THEM IS THE UNITE E 3592 01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:37,960 COMMITTEE, WHICH IS FOCUSED ON 3593 01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:39,960 THE EXTRAMURAL ECOSYSTEM. 3594 01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:41,640 AND I AM ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS OF 3595 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,960 THAT COMMITTEE. 3596 01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:46,480 YOU HAVE SEEN SEVERAL CONCEPT 3597 01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:48,080 CLEARANCES FOR UNITE INITIATIVES 3598 01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:50,920 IN THE PAST FEW ROUNDS. 3599 01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:52,680 AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE, WHICH 3600 01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:54,800 IS TARGETED AT RESEARCH CAPACITY 3601 01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,560 BUILDING TO ENHANCE DIVERSITY OF 3602 01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:02,280 THE NIH-FUNDED WORKFORCE. 3603 01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,440 SO THE UNITE E COMMITTEE TACKLED 3604 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:15,960 FOUR SPECIFIC AREAS TH. 3605 01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:21,480 THE THIRD WAS INEQUITIES AT THE 3606 01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:23,520 NIH IN TERMS OF OUR POLICIES AND 3607 01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:24,040 PROCEDURES. 3608 01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:28,240 AND THE FOURTH IS RESEARCH 3609 01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:29,440 RESOURCES AND CAPACITY AT 3610 01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:31,080 MINORITY SERVING INSTITUTIONS. 3611 01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,560 AND THAT IS THE SPECIFIC DOMAIN 3612 01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:37,280 THAT THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE 3613 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:41,920 AIMS TO ADDRESS. 3614 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:43,160 SO BUILDING RESEARCH CAPACITY. 3615 01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:45,160 THIS IS SOMETHING NIGMS HAS A 3616 01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:46,760 CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF 3617 01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:47,200 EXPERIENCE IN. 3618 01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:48,960 WE HAVE AN ENTIRE DIVISION OF 3619 01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:50,320 RESEARCH CAPACITY BUILDING SO 3620 01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:53,320 BOTH AT NIGMS, ELSEWHERE AT NIH 3621 01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:54,520 AND THROUGH OTHER PROGRAMS 3622 01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,040 FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 3623 01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:57,320 AND PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS, A FAIR 3624 01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:58,440 AMOUNT OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT 3625 01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:02,000 IS REQUIRED FOR BUILDING 3626 01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:02,720 RESEARCH CAPACITY HAS BEEN 3627 01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:05,920 DEVELOPED. 3628 01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:09,120 SO THIS IS CLEARLY A 3629 01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:09,960 MULTIFACTORIAL PROCESS AND 3630 01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:13,680 REQUIRES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 3631 01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:14,520 INTERRELATED AND 3632 01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:15,200 INTERFUNCTIONING THINGS TO 3633 01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:15,520 HAPPEN. 3634 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:16,720 THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMMITMENT 3635 01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,960 TO DEVELOPING THE RESEARCH 3636 01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:20,880 CULTURE AT THE INSTITUTION, 3637 01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:21,800 THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMMITMENT 3638 01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:23,160 TO DEVELOPING RESEARCH 3639 01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:25,520 EXPERTISE, THE FACILITIES, 3640 01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,280 EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES, AND FINDING 3641 01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,680 APPROPRIATE FUNDING 3642 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:32,280 OPPORTUNITIES AND PROVIDING 3643 01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:32,840 APPROPRIATE INSTITUTIONAL 3644 01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:33,040 SUPPORT. 3645 01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:34,040 IN ADDITION TO THOSE THINGS, 3646 01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:35,840 THERE HAS TO BE SUFFICIENT 3647 01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:37,200 FACULTY AND STAFF TIME DEDICATED 3648 01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:40,400 TO RESEARCH IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN 3649 01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,240 A RESEARCH ENTERPRISE IN AN 3650 01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:42,560 INSTITUTION. 3651 01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:44,440 THERE HAS TO BE ATTENTION PAID 3652 01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,520 TO DEVELOPING THE GRANT-WRITING 3653 01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:47,480 SKILLS OF THE FACULTY AND 3654 01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:49,000 STUDENTS AT THE INSTITUTION. 3655 01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:50,960 AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, THERE HAS 3656 01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:55,760 TO BE A SPONSORED PROGRAMS 3657 01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:56,400 ADMINISTRATION FUNCTION THAT 3658 01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:57,400 OPERATES WITHIN THE INSTITUTION. 3659 01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:58,520 AND THIS IS SOMETHING I REALLY 3660 01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:00,000 WANT TO EMPHASIZE BECAUSE WE 3661 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,040 HAVE BEEN INCREASINGLY MADE 3662 02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:05,560 AWARE OF THIS AS A PAIN POINT 3663 02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:06,920 FOR INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE TRYING 3664 02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:08,800 TO BUILD THEIR RESEARCH 3665 02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:10,280 CAPACITY, THAT THEY EITHER HAVE 3666 02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:12,280 NO SPONSORED PROGRAMS 3667 02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:14,880 ADMINISTRATION OFFICE 3668 02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:16,080 WHATSOEVER, OR THEY HAVE A VERY 3669 02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:18,160 LIMITED ONE, AND YOU KNOW, 3670 02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:21,480 PROBABLY EVERYONE ON COUNCIL'S 3671 02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:23,600 INSTITUTIONS HAVE VERY ROBUST 3672 02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:24,920 SPONSORED PROGRAMS 3673 02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:26,240 ADMINISTRATIONS OFFICES THAT DO 3674 02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:28,760 MUCH OF THE WORK WHEN YOU ARE 3675 02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:30,480 SUBMITTING A GRANT, WHEN YOU ARE 3676 02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:31,440 ADMINISTERING THE GRANTS THAT 3677 02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:32,440 YOU RECEIVE. 3678 02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:33,600 BUT JUST TRY TO IMAGINE WHAT IT 3679 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:35,600 WOULD BE LIKE TO BE A FACULTY 3680 02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:36,920 MEMBER AT AN INSTITUTION THAT 3681 02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:40,400 HAD NO SPONSORED PROGRAMS IN THE 3682 02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:41,360 ADMINISTRATION OFFICE, HOW WOULD 3683 02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:42,560 YOU APPLY FOR A GRANT? 3684 02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,080 YOU'D HAVE TO DO ALL THAT WORK 3685 02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:45,200 YOURSELF OR BEG SOMEBODY TO HELP 3686 02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:46,280 YOU DO IT. 3687 02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:49,120 AND THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE A 3688 02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:51,880 HUGE DETRIMENT TO YOUR ABILITY 3689 02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,480 TO APPLY FOR AND GET AND OPERATE 3690 02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:58,440 GRANTS. 3691 02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:00,360 SO ALL THESE ELEMENTS REQUIRE 3692 02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:04,560 MONEY AND TIME TO ESTABLISH OR 3693 02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,600 GROW, AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 3694 02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:09,120 INSTITUTIONAL RESOURCES 3695 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:11,280 TYPICALLY IN ACADEMIA ARRIVE 3696 02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:12,480 FROM SEVERAL SOURCES, THE FIRST 3697 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,680 BEING TUITION, THE SECOND BEING 3698 02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:16,520 DONORS AND PHILANTHROPY, WHICH 3699 02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:19,320 LEADS TO ENDOWMENTS THAT ALREADY 3700 02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:20,560 EXIST, AND THOSE ENDOWMENTS 3701 02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:21,960 GENERATE INCOME. 3702 02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:25,160 AND THEN INDIRECT COSTS FROM 3703 02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:26,600 GRANTS THAT THE INSTITUTION 3704 02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:26,880 RECEIVES. 3705 02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:28,720 IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FOR 3706 02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:30,400 INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE 3707 02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:32,560 UNDERRESOURCED AND HAVE VERY LOW 3708 02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:34,560 RESEARCH CAPACITY AT THE MOMENT, 3709 02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,200 IN MANY CASES, THEY DERIVE ALL 3710 02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:40,000 OF THEIR OPERATING BUDGET FROM 3711 02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:41,920 TUITION. 3712 02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:42,880 THAT IS OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFICULT 3713 02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:44,200 TO THEN USE -- TO FIND THE FUNDS 3714 02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:46,160 TO GROW THE THINGS IN THE BULLET 3715 02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:48,280 ABOVE. 3716 02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:50,400 IT'S ALSO BEEN OBSERVED THAT 3717 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:54,120 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, IN A 3718 02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:55,440 SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, GROW 3719 02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:56,960 RESEARCH CAPACITY, AND A 3720 02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:57,920 SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME IS 3721 02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:02,200 REQUIRED TO REALLY MAKE A CHANGE 3722 02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:03,600 IN THE RESEARCH CAPACITY OF AN 3723 02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:04,400 INSTITUTION. 3724 02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:05,440 SOME STUDIES HAVE SAID 11 YEARS 3725 02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:07,160 IS NEEDED TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT 3726 02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:08,760 IMPACT ON RESEARCH CAPACITY. 3727 02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:10,120 SO THAT'S A BENCHMARK TO THINK 3728 02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:11,520 ABOUT. 3729 02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:13,600 A DECADE IS WHAT IT TAKES TO 3730 02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:16,560 REALLY CHANGE AN INSTITUTION'S 3731 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:20,360 ABILITY TO SUPPORT AND CONDUCT 3732 02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:21,240 RESEARCH. 3733 02:02:21,240 --> 02:02:23,360 SO LESSONS LEARNED FROM PREVIOUS 3734 02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:27,480 PROGRAMS AT NIGMS AND ELSEWHERE. 3735 02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:28,680 MAINTAINING CAPACITY AFTER A 3736 02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:30,440 SINGLE ROUND OF GRANT FUNDING IS 3737 02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:30,880 A CHALLENGE. 3738 02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,120 THAT GOES TO THAT POINT ABOUT IT 3739 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:34,880 TAKES BASICALLY A DECADE TO MAKE 3740 02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:38,600 A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. 3741 02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:40,120 FOUR OR FIVE-YEAR GRANT IS 3742 02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:41,520 REALLY NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE 3743 02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:47,400 LANGEVIN LMAKE LONGLASTING CHAND 3744 02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:48,320 SUS AT THE NAS IS REQUIRED. 3745 02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:49,440 IN ORDER TO GET THE CAPACITY TO 3746 02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,160 GET THE GRANTS, WHICH ARE THEN 3747 02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:53,640 GOING TO HELP SUPPORT THIS 3748 02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:54,840 RESEARCH CAPACITY THROUGH THINGS 3749 02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:58,480 LIKE INDIRECT COSTS, TIME IS 3750 02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:01,960 REQUIRED. 3751 02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:03,280 MANY INSTITUTIONS, AND THIS IS 3752 02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,760 NOT JUST SPECIFIC TO 3753 02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:08,520 UNDERRESOURCED OR MINORITY 3754 02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:09,800 SERVING INSTITUTIONS BUT WE'RE 3755 02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:11,960 HEARING THIS EVEN FROM VERY WELL 3756 02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:13,040 RESOURCED INSTITUTIONS, THAT 3757 02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:15,360 THEY HAVE A HARD TIME THESE DAYS 3758 02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:17,320 HIRING, TRAINING AND RETAINING 3759 02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:18,960 SPONSORED PROGRAMS AND RESEARCH 3760 02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:19,600 DEVELOPMENT PERSONNEL. 3761 02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:21,240 IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS IS A 3762 02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:22,800 FAIRLY SPECIALIZED FUNCTION. 3763 02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,640 NIGMS, WE HAVE A HUGE EXTREMELY 3764 02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:27,040 TALENTED GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO 3765 02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,440 SPEND THEIR TIME ON GRANTS 3766 02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,240 ADMINISTRATION, AND MAKE IT 3767 02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:32,920 POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO GET GRANTS 3768 02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:34,480 AND THEN ADMINISTER THEM 3769 02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:35,560 APPROPRIATELY. 3770 02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:38,840 INSTITUTIONS NEED TO HAVE A 3771 02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:39,800 RECIPROCAL GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH 3772 02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:41,120 THAT SAME KIND OF EXPERTISE 3773 02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:42,320 DOING IT ON THEIR END FOR THE 3774 02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:43,720 SYSTEM TO FUNCTION, AND IF THEY 3775 02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:45,360 DON'T HAVE IT ON THEIR END, IT'S 3776 02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:46,360 VERY DIFFICULTMENT AND WE'RE 3777 02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:48,560 HEARING MORE AND MORE THAT IT'S 3778 02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:52,880 HARD FOR INSTITUTIONS TO FIND 3779 02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:54,000 AND RETAIN THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE 3780 02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:55,520 AND CERTAINLY IT'S EVEN HARDER 3781 02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:56,320 FOR INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE 3782 02:03:56,320 --> 02:04:03,280 STARTING FROM A BASELINE CLOSE 3783 02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:03,920 TO ZERO. 3784 02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,040 NOW, A REALLY IMPORTANT CONCEPT, 3785 02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:06,760 AND THIS CAME UP IN OUR PREVIOUS 3786 02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:09,920 DISCUSSIONS EARLIER, IS THAT NOT 3787 02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,560 ALL INSTITUTIONS ARE EVER GOING 3788 02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,360 TO BE FUNCTIONING AT THE LEVEL 3789 02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:17,080 OF A RESEARCH-INTENSIVE 3790 02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:17,960 INSTITUTION IN TERMS OF THEIR 3791 02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:20,280 RESEARCH CAPACITY, BUT THAT 3792 02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:22,560 DOESN'T MEAN THAT BEING ABLE TO 3793 02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:24,600 SUSTAIN SOME SIGNIFICANT 3794 02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:25,680 RESEARCH EFFORT WOULDN'T REALLY 3795 02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:28,440 BE BENEFICIAL TO THE INSTITUTION 3796 02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:30,520 AND ITS STUDENTS. 3797 02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:32,160 BUT WE DO NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT 3798 02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:33,880 THERE ARE MANY INSTITUTIONS THAT 3799 02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:35,000 ARE JUST -- YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 3800 02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:37,080 NOT GOING TO HAVE THE NUMBER OF 3801 02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:40,000 GRANTS THAT WILL MAKE IT 3802 02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:41,240 POSSIBLE OR NECESSARY FOR THEM 3803 02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:44,360 TO HAVE THEIR OWN SIGNIFICANT 3804 02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:46,920 OFFICE OF SPONSORED PROGRAMS TO 3805 02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:47,640 ADMINISTER THOSE GRANTS. 3806 02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,160 SO WE DO NEED TO THINK ABOUT 3807 02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:51,920 OTHER MODELS AND THIS CAME UP 3808 02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:53,880 EARLIER OF, FOR INSTANCE, 3809 02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:56,800 SHARING OF ADMINISTRATIVE 3810 02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:58,400 RESOURCES AND IT WOULD BE 3811 02:04:58,400 --> 02:04:59,120 INTERESTING TO TALK ABOUT 3812 02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:00,760 WHETHER THAT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT. 3813 02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:02,440 CAN MULTIPLE INSTITUTIONS BE IN 3814 02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:04,480 A REGION OR EVEN VIRTUALLY SHARE 3815 02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:10,280 THE EXPERTISE NEEDED TO MAINTAIN 3816 02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:11,840 A SPONSORED PROGRAMS OFFICE 3817 02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:15,760 AMONGST A GROUP OF INSTITUTIONS. 3818 02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:17,640 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 3819 02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:19,920 SOME INSTITUTIONS NEED 3820 02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:21,680 ADDITIONAL SUPPORT BEYOND JUST 3821 02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:23,400 THAT SPONSORED PROGRAMS 3822 02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:23,960 DEVELOPMENT PIECE. 3823 02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:25,040 THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A CRITICAL 3824 02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:25,240 PIECE. 3825 02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:27,920 IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, IT'S 3826 02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:29,840 PRETTY HARD TO APPLY FOR AND 3827 02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:31,160 OPERATE GRANTS, BUT THERE ARE 3828 02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:32,360 OTHER ISSUES IN BUILDING 3829 02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:33,800 RESEARCH CAPACITY, OF COURSE. 3830 02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:36,040 SO THINGS LIKE PROVIDING PILOT 3831 02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,400 RESEARCH FUNDING, SO THAT 3832 02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:40,000 FACULTY CAN GET SOME PRELIMINARY 3833 02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:41,320 DATA SO THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE 3834 02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:43,080 OF ACTUALLY GETTING A GRANT AND 3835 02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:44,800 THEY CAN GET THEIR LABS UP AND 3836 02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,120 RUNNING. 3837 02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:49,400 AND ANOTHER ISSUE RELATED TO 3838 02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:52,040 THAT IS THE TIME THAT IS 3839 02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:53,760 REQUIRED OF MANY FACULTY TO 3840 02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:54,440 TEACH. 3841 02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:55,720 SOME INSTITUTIONS REQUIRE 100% 3842 02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:58,080 OF THE FACULTY TIME BE DEDICATED 3843 02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:00,680 TO TEACHING, AND OF COURSE THAT 3844 02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:02,560 MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE AT LEAST 3845 02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:06,800 DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR TO GET 3846 02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:09,520 ANY PRELIMINARY DATA, WRITE 3847 02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:10,640 GRANTS, MENTOR STUDENTS IN YOUR 3848 02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:12,720 LAB, ET CETERA. 3849 02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:17,080 AND SO FINDING WAYS TO BALANCE 3850 02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:19,160 THAT AND TO REASONABLY REDUCE 3851 02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:20,120 TEACHES LOADS WITHOUT, OF 3852 02:06:20,120 --> 02:06:23,200 COURSE, DAMAGING THE TEACHING 3853 02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:25,520 MISSION OF THE INSTITUTION 3854 02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:26,360 UNNECESSARILY ARE THINGS WE ALSO 3855 02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:27,480 NEED TO THINK ABOUT IN THIS 3856 02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:31,080 PROGRAM. 3857 02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:32,920 SO KIND OF SUMMARIZING ALL OF 3858 02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:35,640 THESE CONSIDERATIONS, RESEARCH 3859 02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:39,320 CAPACITY IS REALLY A CONTINUUM, 3860 02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:39,920 ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THESE 3861 02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:42,520 ARE THE RESEARCH-INTENSIVE 3862 02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:43,280 INSTITUTIONS, THEY HAVE THE 3863 02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:44,920 HIGHEST CAPACITY, THEY'RE LARGE 3864 02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:45,920 INSTITUTIONS, THEY HAVE LARGE 3865 02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:47,520 NUMBERS OF BIOMEDICAL GRADUATE 3866 02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:49,920 STUDENTS AND POSTDOCS THAT WE 3867 02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:51,440 WERE DISCUSSING BEFORE. 3868 02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:53,520 THEY TEND TO HAVE LOWER TEACHING 3869 02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:53,840 LOADS. 3870 02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:55,440 SOME OF THEM HAVE NO TEACHING 3871 02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:56,920 LOADS AT ALL. 3872 02:06:56,920 --> 02:06:58,720 THE OTHER SIDE ARE THE LOWEST 3873 02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:00,760 RESEARCH CAPACITY INSTITUTIONS. 3874 02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:02,440 THEY'RE OFTEN SMALL 3875 02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:04,080 INSTITUTIONS, THEY SOMETIMES 3876 02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:05,920 HAVE NO -- OFTEN HAVE NO 3877 02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,000 BIOMEDICAL GRADUATE STUDENTS OR 3878 02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:08,160 POSTDOCS. 3879 02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:09,280 THEY TEND TO HAVE VERY HIGH 3880 02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:14,880 TEACHING LOADS. 3881 02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:16,840 THE LARGE RESEARCH INTENSIVE 3882 02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:18,600 INSTITUTIONS AS I MENTIONED HAVE 3883 02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:21,760 LARGE EXPERT SPONSORED PROGRAMS 3884 02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:22,640 ADMINISTRATION OFFICE. 3885 02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:24,000 THE LOWEST RESEARCH CAPACITY 3886 02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:25,240 INSTITUTIONS HAVE SMALL OR NO 3887 02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:26,600 SPONSORED PROGRAMS 3888 02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:29,080 ADMINISTRATION OFFICES. 3889 02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:30,360 THE HIGH RESOURCE INSTITUTIONS 3890 02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:32,880 HAVE LOTS OF EXTRAMURAL FUNDING. 3891 02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:34,520 THEY OFTEN HAVE VERY LARGE 3892 02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:34,800 ENDOWMENTS. 3893 02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:36,720 THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE OF THE LOW 3894 02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:41,760 RESEARCH CAPACITY INSTITUTIONS. 3895 02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:44,040 SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO 3896 02:07:44,040 --> 02:07:46,000 START THROUGH THE UNITE 3897 02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:48,280 INITIATIVE, THIS WOULD BE A 3898 02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:49,840 TRANS-NIH INITIATIVE MANAGED BY 3899 02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:52,080 NIGMS, IS A DIVERSITY-ENHANCING 3900 02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:53,200 RESEARCH CAPACITY BUILDING 3901 02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:56,680 PROGRAM. 3902 02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:59,080 IT WILL BE INTENDED FOR 3903 02:07:59,080 --> 02:07:59,960 INSTITUTIONS WITH LIMITED 3904 02:07:59,960 --> 02:08:01,360 CAPACITY, WITH FACULTY AND/OR 3905 02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:03,120 STUDENTS WHO WILL ENHANCE THE 3906 02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:04,000 DIVERSITY OF THE BIOMEDICAL 3907 02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:07,640 RESEARCH WORKFORCE. 3908 02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:09,080 THE INSTITUTIONS WILL PROPOSE 3909 02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:12,160 PLANS TO ADVANCE ALONG THE 3910 02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:13,840 CONTINUUM AT A REALISTIC PACE, 3911 02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:15,960 AND TO A REALISTIC END POINT. 3912 02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:17,480 I THINK IT IS TOTALLY 3913 02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:19,000 UNREASONABLE TO THINK THAT EVERY 3914 02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:20,400 INSTITUTION SHOULD BE TRYING TO 3915 02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,000 BECOME, YOU KNOW, A 3916 02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:23,960 RESEARCH-INTENSIVE INSTITUTION. 3917 02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:25,560 THAT'S NOT REASONABLE AND IT'S 3918 02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,440 ALSO NOT REALLY WARRANTED. 3919 02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:30,640 BUT MOST INSTITUTIONS COULD 3920 02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,280 BENEFIT FROM HAVING SOME 3921 02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:33,560 SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESEARCH 3922 02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:35,640 BEING CONDUCTED BY THEIR FACULTY 3923 02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:41,240 WITH THEIR STUDENTS. 3924 02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:44,720 WE INTEND TO FUND RESEARCH, 3925 02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:46,120 PILOT PROJECTS, THE DEVELOPMENT 3926 02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:47,880 OF THE RESEARCH ITSELF, AS WELL 3927 02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:49,320 AS THE DEVELOPMENT OR 3928 02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:50,760 ENHANCEMENT OF SPONSORED 3929 02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:51,760 PROGRAMS CAPACITY BUILDING 3930 02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:55,680 COMPONENTS. 3931 02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:57,320 AND SO THERE WILL BE KIND OF TWO 3932 02:08:57,320 --> 02:08:59,720 PARTS TO THIS. 3933 02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:02,000 AND APPLICANT INSTITUTIONS COULD 3934 02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:03,440 APPLY FOR ONE, THE OTHER OR 3935 02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:03,880 BOTH. 3936 02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:05,440 THEY COULD EITHER APPLY FOR THE 3937 02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:08,480 RESEARCH SIDE OF THINGS, WHICH 3938 02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:10,000 WILL REQUIRE A POOL OF 3939 02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:11,080 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH FACULTY AT 3940 02:09:11,080 --> 02:09:12,520 THE INSTITUTION WHO ARE 3941 02:09:12,520 --> 02:09:14,120 INTERESTED IN TRYING TO INCREASE 3942 02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:15,680 THEIR ABILITY TO CONDUCT 3943 02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:16,960 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH. 3944 02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:18,280 THEY WOULD PROVIDE THINGS LIKE 3945 02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:19,720 PILOT RESEARCH FUNDING AS I 3946 02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:20,920 MENTIONED, SO THAT THEY COULD 3947 02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:21,760 GET PRELIMINARY DATA. 3948 02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:25,360 IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE FUNDS TO 3949 02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:26,800 ALLOW RESEARCH CULTURE 3950 02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:27,800 ENHANCEMENT, SO FOR INSTANCE, 3951 02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:29,840 BRINGING IN SPEAKERS, MAYBE 3952 02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:33,120 BRINGING IN CONSULTANTS, MAYBE 3953 02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:34,640 HOSTING MEETINGS, ET CETERA. 3954 02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:36,000 AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF IT 3955 02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:37,840 WOULD BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT 3956 02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:39,120 SPONSORED PROGRAMS PIECE. 3957 02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:42,200 SO ALLOWING INSTITUTIONS TO GET 3958 02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:45,120 SOME CAPITAL TO BEGIN HIRING 3959 02:09:45,120 --> 02:09:46,520 PERSONNEL, AND TRAINING THOSE 3960 02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:49,320 PERSONNEL AND SPONSORED PROGRAMS 3961 02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:49,720 ADMINISTRATION. 3962 02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:52,160 IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO EITHER 3963 02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:57,200 ACQUIRE THEIR OWN OR PERHAPS BUY 3964 02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:58,600 INTO EXISTING ELECTRONIC 3965 02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:00,240 MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS SO THAT THEY 3966 02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:01,920 COULD MANAGE APPLICATIONS AND 3967 02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:05,520 MANAGE AWARDS. 3968 02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:06,840 AND THEN WE WERE ALSO THINKING 3969 02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:10,560 IT MIGHT ALSO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO 3970 02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:11,680 ENHANCE OR PROMOTE THE 3971 02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:15,560 DEVELOPMENT OFFICES ABILITY TO 3972 02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:17,960 RAISE FUNDS FOR RESEARCH, WHICH 3973 02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,520 IS A MAJOR DISPARITY AMONG 3974 02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:21,600 INSTITUTIONS, IS HOW MUCH 3975 02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:22,520 ENDOWMENT FUNDS THEY HAVE IN 3976 02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:25,800 THEIR ABILITY TO RAISE 3977 02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:26,960 PHILANTHROPY TO SUPPORT THEIR 3978 02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:27,960 RESEARCH ENDEAVORS. 3979 02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:30,720 AS I MENTIONED, I THINK WE WOULD 3980 02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:32,200 CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE PARTNERSHIPS 3981 02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:35,840 AMONG INSTITUTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, 3982 02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,680 TO SHARE SPONSORED PROGRAM 3983 02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:40,200 FUNCTIONS, RECOGNIZING THAT MANY 3984 02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:40,840 INSTITUTIONS WILL NOT HAVE 3985 02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:43,800 ENOUGH VOLUME OF APPLICATIONS OR 3986 02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:46,240 GRANTS TO MERIT HAVING THEIR OWN 3987 02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:50,720 SPONSORED PROGRAMS OFFICE. 3988 02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:53,120 SO WITH THAT, WE CAN TAKE THE 3989 02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:54,280 SLIDES DOWN AND GET YOUR 3990 02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:55,480 FEEDBACK ON THIS AND THEN 3991 02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:58,560 HOPEFULLY MOVE TO A VOTE. 3992 02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,760 TERRI. 3993 02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:03,000 >>SO AS SOMEONE WHO RAN A 3994 02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:05,880 SPONSORED RESEARCH OFFICE AT TWO 3995 02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:06,760 UNIVERSITIES AND HAS BEEN 3996 02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:08,400 FOLLOWING IT, THIS IDEA OF 3997 02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:10,680 SHARING, I THINK, IS REALLY 3998 02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:10,960 IMPORTANT. 3999 02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:12,440 BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS 4000 02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:15,680 A LOT OF SPONSORED RESEARCH, 4001 02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:17,240 PEOPLE ARE WORKING REMOTELY. 4002 02:11:17,240 --> 02:11:17,600 >>INTERESTING. 4003 02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:18,840 >>YOU HEAR A LOT OF STORIES 4004 02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:20,600 ABOUT PEOPLE POACHING FROM ONE 4005 02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:23,960 UNIVERSITY TO ANOTHER RIGHT NOW, 4006 02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:25,400 AND SO WHILE THAT'S BAD IN SOME 4007 02:11:25,400 --> 02:11:26,600 WAYS AND COULD BE REALLY 4008 02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:27,720 CHALLENGING FOR THESE 4009 02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:28,680 INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE TRYING TO 4010 02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:30,280 BUILD IT, YOU COULD UTILIZE THAT 4011 02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:31,400 AS A STRENGTH, I THINK IT COULD 4012 02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,280 BE REALLY HELPFUL IN OUR NEW 4013 02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:33,560 ENVIRONMENT. 4014 02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:35,920 >>YEAH, AND EVEN HERE AT NIGMS, 4015 02:11:35,920 --> 02:11:37,440 MOST OF OUR GRANTS 4016 02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:38,400 ADMINISTRATION STAFF ARE NOW 4017 02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:39,520 WORKING REMOTELY. 4018 02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:46,080 SO I THINK THAT MODEL IS VERY 4019 02:11:46,080 --> 02:11:48,920 APPEALING AND ONE OF THE SILVER 4020 02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:51,240 LININGS OF WHAT WE LEARNED IN 4021 02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:52,080 THE PANDEMIC. 4022 02:11:52,080 --> 02:11:54,280 TERRI, DO YOU THINK THAT SHARING 4023 02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:56,840 OF A SPONSORED PROGRAMS GROUP 4024 02:11:56,840 --> 02:11:57,920 AMONG MULTIPLE INSTITUTIONS 4025 02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:01,080 WOULD WORK? 4026 02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:02,520 IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY VIABLE 4027 02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:03,720 WAY FOR SOME OF THESE 4028 02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:04,560 INSTITUTIONS BUT ARE THERE GOING 4029 02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:06,640 TO BE BARRIERS IN TERMS OF 4030 02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:10,600 ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES, FOR 4031 02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:10,800 EXAMPLE? 4032 02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:13,360 >>SO I'D SAY THAT THERE IS SOME 4033 02:12:13,360 --> 02:12:14,400 VALUE IN THE CONTACTS YOU GET 4034 02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:17,920 WITH PEOPLE, AND SO HAVING 4035 02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:19,120 LEADERSHIP THAT MAKES SURE THAT 4036 02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:21,640 YOU'RE LISTENING TO WHAT THE 4037 02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:23,960 FACULTY THAT ARE SUBMITTING THIS 4038 02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:27,840 RESEARCH NEEDS ARE IMPORTANT. 4039 02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:29,800 I THINK THERE'S ALSO A CULTURAL 4040 02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:30,320 CHALLENGE. 4041 02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:31,640 THE BENEFIT IS WE'VE ALWAYS SAID 4042 02:12:31,640 --> 02:12:33,080 THIS EVEN WITHIN A LARGE 4043 02:12:33,080 --> 02:12:33,840 INSTITUTION, WHAT WE CALL 4044 02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:38,360 SERVICE CENTER MODEL GIVES YOU 4045 02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:38,560 BACKUP. 4046 02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:42,280 IF YOU'RE A SMALL INSTITUTION -- 4047 02:12:42,280 --> 02:12:45,120 VERSUS WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGER 4048 02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:46,320 GROUP, EVERYBODY HAS A PRIMARY 4049 02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:48,400 AND A SECOND DREKD HOPEFULLY, 4050 02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:50,600 AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE 4051 02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:51,520 BUILT ALONG THE WAY. 4052 02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:52,720 IT'S ABOUT BUILDING THE 4053 02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:53,720 RELATIONSHIPS TO START IT. 4054 02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:57,680 BECAUSE THE REAL -- IN MY 4055 02:12:57,680 --> 02:13:01,200 EXPERIENCE, JUST ONE PERSON'S 4056 02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:03,280 EXPERIENCE, IS THE HANDS-ON 4057 02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:04,720 PRE-AWARD OFFICERS AND POST 4058 02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:07,960 AWARD OFFICERS WHO ARE EQUALLY 4059 02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:09,080 IMPORTANT IN HELPING PEOPLE 4060 02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:11,160 UNDERSTAND HOW TO SPEND THEIR 4061 02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:11,920 RESOURCES, THEY'RE THE ONES ON 4062 02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:15,600 THE FRONT LINE, AND IF YOU BUILD 4063 02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:17,040 THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, IT WILL 4064 02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:17,720 WORK. 4065 02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:18,400 THAT'S THE KEY. 4066 02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:20,000 IN MY EXPERIENCE AT TWO 4067 02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:20,360 INSTITUTIONS. 4068 02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:21,200 >>THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT 4069 02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:21,560 POINT. 4070 02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:24,080 I THINK YOUR POINT ABOUT, ONE, 4071 02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:25,440 BEING A VERY META STABLE NUMBER 4072 02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:26,600 IS ALSO IMPORTANT. 4073 02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:30,080 IF YOU HAVE ONE PROGRAM 4074 02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:30,880 ADMINISTRATION OFFICER AND THAT 4075 02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:32,160 PERSON LEAVES, YOU NOW HAVE 4076 02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:37,520 ZERO, RIGHT? 4077 02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:37,760 PAMELA. 4078 02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:41,360 >>THIS IS VERY EXCITING. 4079 02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:42,800 I THINK THE TIMING IS ALSO VERY 4080 02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:43,240 GOOD. 4081 02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:47,960 IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF DMA 4082 02:13:47,960 --> 02:13:49,120 COULD PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION 4083 02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:50,480 ABOUT THE INFLUX OF NEW FACULTY 4084 02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:52,640 AND THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 4085 02:13:52,640 --> 02:13:53,080 INSTITUTIONS. 4086 02:13:53,080 --> 02:13:54,960 I'M JUST AWARE WITHIN THE 4087 02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:57,440 CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY 4088 02:13:57,440 --> 02:13:58,880 SYSTEM, WE GO THROUGH WAVES AND 4089 02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:00,560 IT DOES APPEAR TO BE GOOD TIMING 4090 02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:02,280 IN TERMS OF NEW FACULTY COMING 4091 02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:03,720 ON BOARD. 4092 02:14:03,720 --> 02:14:05,800 BUT IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A 4093 02:14:05,800 --> 02:14:11,280 REALLY ROBUST COMMUNITY COLLEGE 4094 02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:12,480 COHORT, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME 4095 02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:14,560 VERY GOOD PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THE 4096 02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:17,120 B2B IN TERMS OF STRENGTHENING 4097 02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:19,640 THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, BUT THOSE 4098 02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:21,680 INSTITUTIONS IN PARTICULAR ARE 4099 02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:22,920 AT A STAGE WHERE SOME OF THEM 4100 02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:25,120 ARE GETTING INVOLVED IN OSP AND 4101 02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:27,520 SOME OF THEM ARE SORT OF 4102 02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:29,040 RELIANT. 4103 02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:30,640 AND IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE 4104 02:14:30,640 --> 02:14:33,520 WE COULD DO SOME COST SAVING, SO 4105 02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:36,440 THAT WE OPTIMIZE WHAT WE'RE 4106 02:14:36,440 --> 02:14:40,640 DOING HERE, SO SOME -- SO MAYBE 4107 02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:41,680 HAVING SOME REGIONAL 4108 02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:44,360 RELATIONSHIPS COULD BE QUITE 4109 02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:47,880 POSITIVE, INCLUDING THE PUIs 4110 02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:49,360 INTERACTING OR RESEARCH 4111 02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:50,080 INSTITUTION, INTENSIVE 4112 02:14:50,080 --> 02:14:51,000 INSTITUTIONS WORKING WITH THE 4113 02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:51,920 COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO PROVIDE 4114 02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:54,760 SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES. 4115 02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:56,960 MY ONLY HESITATION WITH REGARDS 4116 02:14:56,960 --> 02:15:01,680 TO THAT IS HOW IT ENDS UP 4117 02:15:01,680 --> 02:15:02,600 BRINGING UP CAPACITY OTHER THAN 4118 02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:04,560 THE OSP OFFICE ITSELF, BECAUSE 4119 02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:06,520 THE ISSUES AROUND INDIRECT COSTS 4120 02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:09,240 AND WHICH INSTITUTION BENEFITS 4121 02:15:09,240 --> 02:15:13,840 TO WHAT EXTENT SEEMS TO BE 4122 02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:14,440 IMPORTANT. 4123 02:15:14,440 --> 02:15:16,800 BUT REALLY EXCITING DEVELOPMENTS 4124 02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:17,000 HERE. 4125 02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:17,320 >>THANK YOU. 4126 02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:24,720 THANK YOU FOR THAT INPUT. 4127 02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:25,120 LAW YA. 4128 02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:31,800 LAURA.>>THE ONLY THING THAT'S N 4129 02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:33,800 HARDER HERE RECENTLY THAN HIRING 4130 02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:35,520 POSTDOCS HAS BEEN HIRING AMAZING 4131 02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:37,360 PRE AND POST-AWARD PARTNERS. 4132 02:15:37,360 --> 02:15:40,040 SO I THINK THAT THE REALITY, I 4133 02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:42,360 THINK OF THEM AND I REMIND OUR 4134 02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:43,560 PIs, THESE ARE OUR COLLEAGUES. 4135 02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:45,080 THESE ARE SUCH VALUABLE PEOPLE 4136 02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:48,640 TO OUR DAY TO DAY SUCCESS, AND 4137 02:15:48,640 --> 02:15:52,480 WE TOUCHED ON THE FACT THAT THE 4138 02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:54,880 EXPECTATION ALMOST, NOT THE 4139 02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:55,640 EXCEPTION, IS THAT THEY WILL 4140 02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:58,000 LIKELY WANT TO WORK REMOTELY, 4141 02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:00,240 AND SO THAT MAKES THE SHARING 4142 02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:01,760 EASIER IN A LOT OF WAYS. 4143 02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:03,400 AND THIS SOUNDS DOWN IN THE 4144 02:16:03,400 --> 02:16:04,960 WEEDS, BUT WE'VE HIT IT TWICE SO 4145 02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:06,920 I'M JUST SHARING IT PROACTIVELY 4146 02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:10,880 FOR WHEN PEOPLE STRUCTURE THIS. 4147 02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:12,200 THE BENEFITS COORDINATION HAS 4148 02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:14,160 TRIPPED US UP WHEN WE'RE TRYING 4149 02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:16,040 TO HAVE SOMEONE LIVE IN 4150 02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:17,680 CALIFORNIA, FOR EXAMPLE, AND 4151 02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:20,280 WORK FOR US IN MORGANTOWN IN 4152 02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:24,080 TERMS OF INSURANCE AND IT IS A 4153 02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:25,560 VERY SAVVY WORKFORCE, AND THEY 4154 02:16:25,560 --> 02:16:27,120 WILL COME TO THESE GROUPS, I 4155 02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:28,160 IMAGINE, WITH THAT QUESTION FROM 4156 02:16:28,160 --> 02:16:29,080 THE ONSET. 4157 02:16:29,080 --> 02:16:32,880 HOW DOES THIS REALLY -- HOW IS 4158 02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:34,320 IT REALLY GOING TO FUNCTION IS 4159 02:16:34,320 --> 02:16:36,160 JUST ONE THING FOR THE PIs OF 4160 02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:40,880 THESE EXCITING AWARDS TO 4161 02:16:40,880 --> 02:16:41,840 CONSIDER BUILDING IN THERE 4162 02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:42,840 SOMEHOW, BECAUSE IT'S NOT SIMPLE 4163 02:16:42,840 --> 02:16:44,240 AND IT HARD TO FIX DOWNSTREAM. 4164 02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:45,680 >>THAT'S A FASCINATING POINT. 4165 02:16:45,680 --> 02:16:46,920 >>I THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT OUT 4166 02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:49,040 THERE BECAUSE WE'VE LOST TWO 4167 02:16:49,040 --> 02:16:49,880 WONDERFULLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE 4168 02:16:49,880 --> 02:16:51,280 THAT WE JUST COULDN'T MAKE IT 4169 02:16:51,280 --> 02:16:55,800 WORK BECAUSE OF THOSE KINDS OF 4170 02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:56,360 DETAILS. 4171 02:16:56,360 --> 02:16:57,880 THE OTHER THING I WONDER, IT 4172 02:16:57,880 --> 02:16:59,640 WOULD BE COOL IF SOMEONE AT A 4173 02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:02,360 WELL ESTABLISHED ROBUST 4174 02:17:02,360 --> 02:17:04,200 UNIVERSITY MAYBE COULD SERVE AS 4175 02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:07,520 A MENTOR OR PIVOT POINT INSTEAD 4176 02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:10,400 OF EXPECTING TWO GROUPS OF 4177 02:17:10,400 --> 02:17:11,800 SIMILAR CAPACITY TO COME 4178 02:17:11,800 --> 02:17:15,520 TOGETHER WHEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE 4179 02:17:15,520 --> 02:17:18,360 THE SHARED EXPERIENCE OF 4180 02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:22,000 SOMEBODY PRE AND POST OSP GURU, 4181 02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:24,400 SOMEBODY ELSE TO BE A MENTOR TO 4182 02:17:24,400 --> 02:17:26,760 THEM WOULD BE, I THINK, FUN. 4183 02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:30,840 >>WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA 4184 02:17:30,840 --> 02:17:34,520 OF FUNDING, SAY, A CENTER WHO 4185 02:17:34,520 --> 02:17:35,920 WOULD HAVE PEOPLE VERY 4186 02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:37,200 EXPERIENCED THAT WOULD THEN ACT 4187 02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:40,360 AS MENTORS AND CONSULTANTS TO 4188 02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:44,880 THESE NAY SANT NASCENT OSPs, BEE 4189 02:17:44,880 --> 02:17:46,000 YOU'RE RIGHT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE 4190 02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:46,760 THE EXPERTISE, YOU DON'T HAVE 4191 02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:48,600 THE EXPERTISE, SO YOU NEED 4192 02:17:48,600 --> 02:17:49,800 SOMEBODY TO HELP GUIDE THEM TO 4193 02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:50,600 DEVELOP THAT EXPERTISE. 4194 02:17:50,600 --> 02:17:52,760 >>AND I THINK JUST IMAGINING 4195 02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:56,840 WHAT PIs WILL WANT OR NEED IS 4196 02:17:56,840 --> 02:17:57,920 VERY DIFFERENT. 4197 02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:00,120 IF YOU'VE SEEN IT AND DONE IT. 4198 02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:01,240 BECAUSE YOU COULD JUST SAVE A 4199 02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:04,840 LOT OF TIME MAYBE, TIME AND 4200 02:18:04,840 --> 02:18:06,040 ENERGY. 4201 02:18:06,040 --> 02:18:08,000 I THINK A FABULOUS MENTOR CAN 4202 02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:11,560 ALWAYS BE IMPACTFUL. 4203 02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:11,840 THAT'S ALL. 4204 02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:14,160 >>THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT AS 4205 02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:14,360 WELL. 4206 02:18:14,360 --> 02:18:15,160 THANK YOU, LAURA. 4207 02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:17,360 MICHAEL. 4208 02:18:17,360 --> 02:18:18,880 I THINK YOU'RE STILL MUTED, 4209 02:18:18,880 --> 02:18:22,600 MICHAEL. 4210 02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:26,800 >>SPINNING OFF WHAT TE WHAT TED 4211 02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:28,240 YOU REFERRED TO, IT'S BAD WHEN 4212 02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,200 YOU GET DOWN TO ZERO IN A 4213 02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:32,400 REAWARD OR POST AWARD, BUT ALSO 4214 02:18:32,400 --> 02:18:34,480 CONSIDER IT'S THEN DIFFICULT TO 4215 02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:36,800 TRAIN ANYBODY TO FULFILL THAT 4216 02:18:36,800 --> 02:18:37,080 FUNCTION. 4217 02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:37,320 >>RIGHT. 4218 02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:39,280 >>THERE HAS TO BE REDUNDANCY 4219 02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:44,040 BUILT IN. 4220 02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:45,280 SO THERE'S A QUORUM THAT'S 4221 02:18:45,280 --> 02:18:48,680 NEEDED FOR THIS TO BE 4222 02:18:48,680 --> 02:18:50,320 FUNCTIONAL. 4223 02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:51,640 I'M GUESSING, SMARTER PEOPLE 4224 02:18:51,640 --> 02:18:54,040 THAN I WHO HAVE THOUGHT THIS 4225 02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:55,480 THROUGH, BUT I'M THINKING THAT 4226 02:18:55,480 --> 02:19:00,720 IT'S BEYOND THE GRANTS 4227 02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:01,440 MANAGEMENT, THAT YOU'VE GOT 4228 02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:02,720 TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN DO 4229 02:19:02,720 --> 02:19:03,040 COMPLIANCE. 4230 02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:03,240 >>YES. 4231 02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:07,480 >>CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 4232 02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:09,360 -- UCAC, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH 4233 02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:12,520 AND SAFETY. 4234 02:19:12,520 --> 02:19:16,760 SO SO WH WHAT ARE THE -- HAVE PE 4235 02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:22,160 STUDIED THE MINIMAL SIZE STAFF 4236 02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:23,240 THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS TO BE 4237 02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:23,640 FUNCTIONAL? 4238 02:19:23,640 --> 02:19:25,400 I'M GUESSING YOU'RE LOOKING AT 4239 02:19:25,400 --> 02:19:27,000 10 OR MORE PEOPLE. 4240 02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:29,400 >>EXCELLENT QUESTION, MICHAEL. 4241 02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:30,840 THOSE OTHER FUNCTIONS THAT ARE 4242 02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:32,240 NECESSARY TO SUPPORT A RESEARCH 4243 02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:34,880 PROGRAM AS WELL, AND WHAT'S THE 4244 02:19:34,880 --> 02:19:35,520 MINIMAL NUMBER. 4245 02:19:35,520 --> 02:19:40,200 >>AND SO I'M THINKING PROBABLY 4246 02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:42,040 YOU WANT TO BUILD IN A REALLY 4247 02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,120 STRONG INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO 4248 02:19:44,120 --> 02:19:47,920 EITHER PROPOSE CONSORTIA OR 4249 02:19:47,920 --> 02:19:50,920 PERHAPS TO CONSIDER THAT SMALLER 4250 02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:52,200 INSTITUTIONS COULD SUBCONTRACT 4251 02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:56,480 THESE SERVICES FROM A RESEARCH 4252 02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:58,800 INTENSIVE INSTITUTION. 4253 02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:02,080 BUT SOME WAY TO GET OFF THE 4254 02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:03,280 GROUND THAT REQUIRES A SMALLER 4255 02:20:03,280 --> 02:20:05,080 INVESTMENT. 4256 02:20:05,080 --> 02:20:06,920 >>I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, AND IF 4257 02:20:06,920 --> 02:20:08,680 YOU JUST THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER 4258 02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:10,960 OF INSTITUTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE'D 4259 02:20:10,960 --> 02:20:12,400 LIKE TO HELP THE MAXIMUM NUMBER 4260 02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:13,600 AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE 4261 02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:15,800 TO SET UP A GROUP OF 10 PEOPLE 4262 02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:17,440 AT A NUMBER OF VERY LARGE 4263 02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:18,320 INSTITUTIONS BUT IF WE COULD 4264 02:20:18,320 --> 02:20:19,840 HAVE ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND 4265 02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:22,920 SHARING, YOU COULD HAVE A 4266 02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:23,560 MULTIPLICATIVE EFFECT. 4267 02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:30,240 IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. 4268 02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:36,360 ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? 4269 02:20:36,360 --> 02:20:38,520 ERICA. 4270 02:20:38,520 --> 02:20:39,640 GO AHEAD, WE HAVE TIME. 4271 02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:42,880 >>SORRY, JUST ONE OTHER ISSUE. 4272 02:20:42,880 --> 02:20:44,320 I WAS REALLY STRUCK BY THE 4273 02:20:44,320 --> 02:20:45,280 STUDIES THAT YOU WERE TALKING 4274 02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:49,000 ABOUT THAT SAID THAT TOOK ABOUT 4275 02:20:49,000 --> 02:20:51,240 11 YEARS TO GET TO THAT SORT OF 4276 02:20:51,240 --> 02:20:52,240 THRESHOLD, AND ONE OF THE THINGS 4277 02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:54,200 WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING A LOT ON IS 4278 02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:57,400 THE OSP ANGLE, BUT THERE'S ALSO 4279 02:20:57,400 --> 02:20:58,680 THE SORT OF CULTURAL CHANGES, 4280 02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:00,760 BOTH IN TERMS OF THE FACULTY BUT 4281 02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:07,160 ALSO THE ADMINISTRATIVE OUTLOOK. 4282 02:21:07,160 --> 02:21:08,600 AND TO ENSURE THE KIND OF MESS 4283 02:21:08,600 --> 02:21:14,040 SAJ THAT WE'RE SENDING IS THE 4284 02:21:14,040 --> 02:21:15,360 IMPORTANCE OF FACULTY DOING 4285 02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:16,240 RESEARCH WITH STUDENTS THAT 4286 02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:17,320 ENHANCES THE STUDENTS' ABILITY 4287 02:21:17,320 --> 02:21:18,880 TO CONTINUE ON IN THESE FIELDS. 4288 02:21:18,880 --> 02:21:19,520 >>RIGHT. 4289 02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:21,680 >>AS OPPOSED TO THE IDEA, OH, 4290 02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:23,720 THE FACULTY ARE BEING DISTRACTED 4291 02:21:23,720 --> 02:21:25,320 AWAY FROM THEIR PRIMARY MISSION 4292 02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:30,560 OF TEACHING, AND TO BUILD 4293 02:21:30,560 --> 02:21:31,640 RESEARCH INTO A TEACHING KIND OF 4294 02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:32,000 ADMINISTRATION. 4295 02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:33,400 SO THAT MOTION OF CHANGING THE 4296 02:21:33,400 --> 02:21:38,040 OLDER FACULTY WHO ARE USED TO DO 4297 02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:39,920 ITING THE OLD WAY, THE 4298 02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:41,680 ADMINISTRATORS USED TO DOING IT 4299 02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:43,080 THE OLD WAY, THERE IS THAT KIND 4300 02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:43,960 OF CULTURAL CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO 4301 02:21:43,960 --> 02:21:45,400 BE SORT OF FACTORED IN AS WELL. 4302 02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:46,960 >>AND I THINK IN SOME 4303 02:21:46,960 --> 02:21:48,040 INSTITUTIONS, THAT'S GOING TO BE 4304 02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:49,120 HUGE. 4305 02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:50,600 THE EXPERIENCE OF THE IDEA 4306 02:21:50,600 --> 02:21:54,800 PROGRAM WITH THE INBRE NETWORKS, 4307 02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:56,480 ANDREW TALKED ABOUT THEM, BUT 4308 02:21:56,480 --> 02:21:58,280 THERE'S A CENTRAL RESEARCH 4309 02:21:58,280 --> 02:21:59,040 INTENSIVE INSTITUTION THAT'S THE 4310 02:21:59,040 --> 02:22:00,880 HUB AND THEN ALL THE PUIs IN 4311 02:22:00,880 --> 02:22:05,960 THE STATE ARE THE SPOKES. 4312 02:22:05,960 --> 02:22:06,200 THE 4313 02:22:06,200 --> 02:22:07,800 GOAL WAS TO BUILD THE RESEARCH 4314 02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:09,480 CAPACITY IN THE PUIs FOR THE 4315 02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:10,120 STUDENTS SO THAT THEY WOULD BE 4316 02:22:10,120 --> 02:22:11,120 BUILDING THIS PIPELINE OF 4317 02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:12,320 STUDENTS INTERESTED IN 4318 02:22:12,320 --> 02:22:15,080 BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH. 4319 02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:16,000 AN EXPERIENCE THERE WAS THAT 4320 02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:17,280 SOME INSTITUTIONS IMMEDIATELY 4321 02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:18,880 JUMPED ON AND SAID YES, WE WANT 4322 02:22:18,880 --> 02:22:20,280 TO DO THIS, BUT OTHER 4323 02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:22,600 INSTITUTIONS WERE VERY RELUCTANT 4324 02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:24,560 FOR THE REASONS YOU SAID THAT 4325 02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:26,200 THEY WANTED THEIR FACULTY 4326 02:22:26,200 --> 02:22:27,560 TEACHING AND THEY DID NOT SEE 4327 02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:29,480 THE VALUE OF HAVING THEM 4328 02:22:29,480 --> 02:22:32,040 DISTRACTED BY DOING RESEARCH. 4329 02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:36,440 FRED TAYLOR, MING LEI'S 4330 02:22:36,440 --> 02:22:37,240 PREDECESSOR TOLD ME IT TOOK A 4331 02:22:37,240 --> 02:22:41,080 LOT OF WORK TO CONVINCE 4332 02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:43,160 PRESIDENTS AND DEANS AT THOSE 4333 02:22:43,160 --> 02:22:44,800 INSTITUTIONS, PROVOSTS, THAT IT 4334 02:22:44,800 --> 02:22:46,360 WOULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE 4335 02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:48,000 EDUCATIONAL MISSION OF THE 4336 02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:49,280 INSTITUTION TO HAVE THE FACULTY 4337 02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:50,840 DOING RESEARCH WITH THE STUDENTS 4338 02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:53,040 BECAUSE THAT WAS AN EDUCATIONAL, 4339 02:22:53,040 --> 02:22:55,320 YOU KNOW, COMPONENT. 4340 02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:58,440 AND -- BUT HE DID SAY THAT AFTER 4341 02:22:58,440 --> 02:22:59,960 SOME TIME, WHEN THEY STARTED 4342 02:22:59,960 --> 02:23:03,120 SEEING WHAT WAS HAPPENING, MOST 4343 02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:04,680 OF THEM CAME AROUND AND REALIZED 4344 02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:05,880 THAT WAS THE THING THEY REALLY 4345 02:23:05,880 --> 02:23:07,520 SHOULD BE DOING. 4346 02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:09,280 BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, FROM WHAT FRED 4347 02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:11,240 TOLD ME, THE CULTURAL BARRIER AT 4348 02:23:11,240 --> 02:23:13,000 MANY INSTITUTIONS WAS VERY 4349 02:23:13,000 --> 02:23:18,040 LARGE. 4350 02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:19,040 SO WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE TO 4351 02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:21,120 ADJUST THAT. 4352 02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:21,360 ANGELA. 4353 02:23:21,360 --> 02:23:26,720 >>I WONDER IF THERE'S A 4354 02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:29,680 LEARNING OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY 4355 02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:31,320 WHAT CULTURAL DIFFERENCES THERE 4356 02:23:31,320 --> 02:23:32,760 ARE BETWEEN A TEACHING 4357 02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:34,320 INSTITUTION AND A RESEARCH-HEAVY 4358 02:23:34,320 --> 02:23:35,480 INSTITUTION THAT COULD 4359 02:23:35,480 --> 02:23:41,640 RESIPICACOULDRECIPROCALLY GO THO 4360 02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:42,960 HELP INSTITUTIONS THAT MAYBE 4361 02:23:42,960 --> 02:23:44,520 HAVE DEPRIORITIZED TEACHING AND 4362 02:23:44,520 --> 02:23:47,320 EDUCATION PIECES TO SORT OF 4363 02:23:47,320 --> 02:23:49,680 UNDERSTAND WHAT DISPOSITIONS ARE 4364 02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:51,880 AT WORK IN BOTH OF THOSE PLACES. 4365 02:23:51,880 --> 02:23:55,040 AND THEN ALSO TO UNDERSTAND 4366 02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:56,000 INFRASTRUCTURELY WHAT MIGHT BE 4367 02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:57,680 IN WORK AT BOTH OF THOSE PLACES. 4368 02:23:57,680 --> 02:24:05,440 BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO SEE 4369 02:24:05,440 --> 02:24:07,760 EVERYTHING EVOLVING TO A 4370 02:24:07,760 --> 02:24:08,800 RESEARCH-INTENSIVE CULTURE AT 4371 02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:11,400 THE EXPENSE OF REALLY THOUGHTFUL 4372 02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:12,520 TEACHING BEING AT THE EPICENTER 4373 02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:13,280 OF A MISSION. 4374 02:24:13,280 --> 02:24:14,600 SO I WONDER IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO 4375 02:24:14,600 --> 02:24:16,040 ENGAGE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN A 4376 02:24:16,040 --> 02:24:19,000 SORT OF SPIRIT OF RECIPROCAL 4377 02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:20,120 LEARNING AND SCIENCE OF SCIENCE 4378 02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:22,080 ABOUT THE CULTURE OF THINGS THAT 4379 02:24:22,080 --> 02:24:23,880 WE DO IN HIGHER ED. 4380 02:24:23,880 --> 02:24:28,000 >>I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 4381 02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:30,760 PART OF THE PHILOSOPHY OF OUR 4382 02:24:30,760 --> 02:24:32,520 ARACTA PROGRAM IS THAT, IS THAT 4383 02:24:32,520 --> 02:24:34,440 THE RESEARCH INTENSIVE PARTNER 4384 02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:39,280 CAN LEARN A LOT FROM THE 4385 02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:39,880 EDUCATION-INTENSIVE PARTNER 4386 02:24:39,880 --> 02:24:40,880 ABOUT THE EDUCATION MISSION THAT 4387 02:24:40,880 --> 02:24:42,160 THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, AND 4388 02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:44,400 HOW TO CO CONDUCT IT. 4389 02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:46,080 BUT I THINK WE CAN EXPAND THAT 4390 02:24:46,080 --> 02:24:47,520 AND THIS MAY BE A PLACE TO DO 4391 02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:48,040 IT. 4392 02:24:48,040 --> 02:24:48,520 TERRI. 4393 02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:49,680 >>I THINK I'M GOING TO SOUND 4394 02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:51,120 LIKE WHAT I TALKED ABOUT LAST 4395 02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:52,240 TIME, BUT I DO THINK THAT SORT 4396 02:24:52,240 --> 02:24:53,880 OF RESEARCH, THERE ARE 4397 02:24:53,880 --> 02:24:55,280 ORGANIZATIONS FULLY DEDICATED 4398 02:24:55,280 --> 02:24:59,440 100% TO RESEARCH ADMINISTRATION, 4399 02:24:59,440 --> 02:25:03,080 THE SOCIETY FOR RESEARCH 4400 02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:04,640 ADMINISTRATORS, THE COGR MEETING 4401 02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:05,200 THAT HAPPENS IN 4402 02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:06,280 WASHINGTON, D.C., AND I KNOW NIH 4403 02:25:06,280 --> 02:25:09,560 IS ALWAYS THERE, SHARING 4404 02:25:09,560 --> 02:25:10,520 INFORMATION, AND THEN THERE'S A 4405 02:25:10,520 --> 02:25:11,880 COUPLE OTHERS. 4406 02:25:11,880 --> 02:25:13,200 I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF 4407 02:25:13,200 --> 02:25:14,720 REALLY GOOD EXPERTS OUT THERE 4408 02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:16,160 THAT WOULD PROBABLY JUMP AT THE 4409 02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:17,360 CHANCE TO SHARE SOME OF THEIR 4410 02:25:17,360 --> 02:25:17,560 DATA. 4411 02:25:17,560 --> 02:25:18,560 >>OH, INTERESTING. 4412 02:25:18,560 --> 02:25:19,040 OKAY. 4413 02:25:19,040 --> 02:25:21,120 THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. 4414 02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:24,360 ANOTHER QUESTION CAME UP WAS 4415 02:25:24,360 --> 02:25:25,800 WHETHER OR NOT RESEARCH 4416 02:25:25,800 --> 02:25:27,040 INTENSIVE INSTITUTION, I THINK 4417 02:25:27,040 --> 02:25:28,000 MICHAEL BROUGHT THIS UP, YOU 4418 02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:33,280 KNOW, MIGHT BE WILLING TO HELP 4419 02:25:33,280 --> 02:25:34,520 SOME OF THE -- ACTUALLY HELP 4420 02:25:34,520 --> 02:25:36,160 WITH THE FUNCTIONS FOR SOME OF 4421 02:25:36,160 --> 02:25:37,440 THE RESOURCE INSTITUTIONS BUT 4422 02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:38,440 THE INCENTIVES THERE ARE 4423 02:25:38,440 --> 02:25:39,840 SOMETHING I THINK WE WOULD NEED 4424 02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:41,640 TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO YOU 4425 02:25:41,640 --> 02:25:43,640 INCENTIVIZE THE RESEARCH 4426 02:25:43,640 --> 02:25:44,360 INTENSIVE INSTITUTIONS TO 4427 02:25:44,360 --> 02:25:45,040 ACTUALLY DO THAT. 4428 02:25:45,040 --> 02:25:47,000 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY 4429 02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:47,800 THOUGHTS, BUT TERRI? 4430 02:25:47,800 --> 02:25:49,320 >>I CAN TELL YOU WITHIN 4431 02:25:49,320 --> 02:25:50,080 RESEARCH ADMINISTRATION ONE 4432 02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:51,120 PLACE WHERE THAT FREQUENTLY 4433 02:25:51,120 --> 02:25:52,840 ALREADY HAPPENS IS IN THE AREA 4434 02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:54,400 OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. 4435 02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:55,040 >>INTERESTING. 4436 02:25:55,040 --> 02:25:57,240 >>AND IN THE AREA OF 4437 02:25:57,240 --> 02:25:58,600 ENTREPRENEURSHIP. 4438 02:25:58,600 --> 02:26:00,760 BECAUSE THAT IS AN EVEN SMALLER 4439 02:26:00,760 --> 02:26:02,800 PORTION AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF 4440 02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:04,800 EXAMPLES INCLUDING AT MY CURRENT 4441 02:26:04,800 --> 02:26:05,680 INSTITUTION WHERE YOU WORK WITH 4442 02:26:05,680 --> 02:26:07,480 A LARGER INSTITUTION SORT OF ON 4443 02:26:07,480 --> 02:26:09,640 A PER-CASE BASIS, BECAUSE THAT 4444 02:26:09,640 --> 02:26:11,960 INFRASTRUCTURE IS EVEN MORE 4445 02:26:11,960 --> 02:26:14,400 EXPENSIVE, RIGHT, AND EVEN A 4446 02:26:14,400 --> 02:26:15,480 RELATIVELY LARGE INSTITUTION MAY 4447 02:26:15,480 --> 02:26:16,440 HAVE ONE PERSON, SO I THINK 4448 02:26:16,440 --> 02:26:17,680 THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD 4449 02:26:17,680 --> 02:26:18,320 EXAMPLES THERE AS WELL. 4450 02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:19,040 >>OKAY. 4451 02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:20,320 THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD MODEL TO 4452 02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:25,160 LOOK AT. 4453 02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:25,440 KLARISSA. 4454 02:26:25,440 --> 02:26:27,240 >>HI. 4455 02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:28,320 THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY 4456 02:26:28,320 --> 02:26:28,920 INTERESTING DISCUSSION. 4457 02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:32,280 SO AS AN EARLY CAREER 4458 02:26:32,280 --> 02:26:33,840 INVESTIGATOR, FACULTY MEMBER, 4459 02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,960 WHO'S BEEN AT BOTH KINDS OF 4460 02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:38,600 INSTITUTIONS. 4461 02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:39,360 I'M INTRIGUED BY THIS 4462 02:26:39,360 --> 02:26:39,800 DISCUSSION. 4463 02:26:39,800 --> 02:26:43,000 AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S 4464 02:26:43,000 --> 02:26:45,960 OPPORTUNITY TO INFUSE FACULTY IN 4465 02:26:45,960 --> 02:26:47,800 THE CULTURE AT A PREDOMINANTLY 4466 02:26:47,800 --> 02:26:48,800 TEACHING INSTITUTION M KOLLING 4467 02:26:48,800 --> 02:26:53,520 FROM RESEARCH INTENSIVE 4468 02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:54,840 INSTITUTIONS, WHICH IS KIND OF 4469 02:26:54,840 --> 02:26:56,840 THE MODEL OF THE INSTITUTION I 4470 02:26:56,840 --> 02:27:00,760 WAS AT, WHICH WAS PREDOMINANTLY 4471 02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:01,200 TEACHING. 4472 02:27:01,200 --> 02:27:03,000 TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, 4473 02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:05,560 THEY NEEDED PEOPLE LIKE MY 4474 02:27:05,560 --> 02:27:09,560 DEPARTMENT CHAIR WHO CAME IN TO 4475 02:27:09,560 --> 02:27:15,360 KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AFFECT THE 4476 02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:16,360 CULTURE, TO LEAD THIS KIND OF 4477 02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:16,800 RESEARCH PROGRAM. 4478 02:27:16,800 --> 02:27:18,320 AND IT GOES THE OTHER WAY TOO. 4479 02:27:18,320 --> 02:27:19,440 FACULTY WHO HAVE BEEN AT 4480 02:27:19,440 --> 02:27:21,600 TEACHING INSTITUTIONS GOING TO 4481 02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:22,040 RESEARCH-INTENSIVE. 4482 02:27:22,040 --> 02:27:23,760 SO I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S SOME 4483 02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:25,480 THOUGHT ABOUT THE PERSONNEL WHO 4484 02:27:25,480 --> 02:27:27,360 IMPACT THE CULTURE TO MAKE THIS 4485 02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:28,800 A REALITY. 4486 02:27:28,800 --> 02:27:31,320 >>SO IN THE MODEL YOU'RE SAYING 4487 02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:32,640 YOUR DEPARTMENT CHAIR HAD COME 4488 02:27:32,640 --> 02:27:35,160 FROM A RESEARCH INTENSIVE 4489 02:27:35,160 --> 02:27:36,400 INSTITUTION, THAT WOULD BE AN 4490 02:27:36,400 --> 02:27:40,160 IDEAL SITUATION, RIGHT, TO HAVE 4491 02:27:40,160 --> 02:27:40,560 HAPPEN. 4492 02:27:40,560 --> 02:27:41,680 INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT HOW 4493 02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:43,960 WE COULD SOMEHOW INCENTIVIZE 4494 02:27:43,960 --> 02:27:44,840 THOSE SORT OF MOVES. 4495 02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:47,920 I ALSO WONDER ABOUT SHORTER TERM 4496 02:27:47,920 --> 02:27:48,240 THINGS. 4497 02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:50,560 COULD YOU HAVE A PROGRAM OR SOME 4498 02:27:50,560 --> 02:27:52,440 WAY THAT FACULTY FROM RESEARCH 4499 02:27:52,440 --> 02:27:53,760 INTENSIVE INSTITUTIONS MIGHT DO 4500 02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:59,240 A SABBATICAL AT THE 4501 02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:00,160 TEACHING-INTENSIVE INSTITUTION 4502 02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:01,520 WITH PART OF THE BENEFIT BEING 4503 02:28:01,520 --> 02:28:03,640 BUILD THAT CONNECTION AND, 4504 02:28:03,640 --> 02:28:05,280 THEREFORE, STUDENTS MIGHT, YOU 4505 02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:07,120 KNOW, GO TO GRADUATE SCHOOL IN 4506 02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:08,400 THE RESEARCH INTENSIVE 4507 02:28:08,400 --> 02:28:09,520 INSTITUTION. 4508 02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:10,880 BUT THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING 4509 02:28:10,880 --> 02:28:13,840 THING TO THINK , I THINK. 4510 02:28:13,840 --> 02:28:16,040 I THINK HOW TO GET THAT 4511 02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:16,760 CROSS-POLLINATION GOING. 4512 02:28:16,760 --> 02:28:18,240 >>YEAH, THANK YOU. 4513 02:28:18,240 --> 02:28:21,000 AND TO ANGELA'S COMMENT, I THINK 4514 02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:22,800 THERE'S LIKE BENEFIT IN BOTH 4515 02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:23,120 DIRECTIONS. 4516 02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:24,080 >>ABSOLUTELY. 4517 02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:25,480 YEAH. 4518 02:28:25,480 --> 02:28:27,280 MICHAEL. 4519 02:28:27,280 --> 02:28:28,840 >>SO TWO POINTS. 4520 02:28:28,840 --> 02:28:37,720 ONE ON INCENTIVIZING THE -- 4521 02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:38,920 INSTITUTION TO HELP. 4522 02:28:38,920 --> 02:28:40,960 COULD YOU HAVE A SYSTEM OF 4523 02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:42,200 SUBCONTRACTS AND ALLOW THE 4524 02:28:42,200 --> 02:28:44,280 SMALLER INSTITUTION TO SHOP 4525 02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:46,720 AMONG LARGER INSTITUTIONS WHO 4526 02:28:46,720 --> 02:28:48,800 WILL PROVIDE THE SERVICES, AND I 4527 02:28:48,800 --> 02:28:50,000 WOULD SAY BOTH DIRECT SERVICES 4528 02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:53,440 BUT ALSO TRAINING, PERSONNEL 4529 02:28:53,440 --> 02:28:53,800 TRAINING. 4530 02:28:53,800 --> 02:28:56,320 SO THAT MIGHT BE A MECHANISM 4531 02:28:56,320 --> 02:29:00,600 THAT NIH COULD INCENTIVIZE THIS. 4532 02:29:00,600 --> 02:29:02,640 THE OTHER POINT IS QUITE 4533 02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:07,520 DIFFERENT, AND IT'S FOLLOWING 4534 02:29:07,520 --> 02:29:10,360 THE EX-H EXHORTATION TO MAKE SUE 4535 02:29:10,360 --> 02:29:11,640 THAT RESEARCH IS PART OF OUR 4536 02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:13,640 EDUCATION. 4537 02:29:13,640 --> 02:29:18,360 AND THE PRESSURE THAT MANY OF US 4538 02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:19,920 FACE TO DO GOOD TEACHING 4539 02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:20,440 SERVICES. 4540 02:29:20,440 --> 02:29:24,760 AND A REMINDER THAT EVEN IN THE 4541 02:29:24,760 --> 02:29:26,920 RESEARCH-INTENSIVE UNIVERSITIES, 4542 02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:28,800 IT'S NOW FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR THE 4543 02:29:28,800 --> 02:29:33,440 FINANCES TO HAVE CHANGED, A 4544 02:29:33,440 --> 02:29:34,840 DECADE AGO, 23RD CAME FROM THE 4545 02:29:34,840 --> 02:29:36,840 STATE AND A THIRD FROM STUDENTS. 4546 02:29:36,840 --> 02:29:39,680 THAT'S REVERSED. 4547 02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:41,880 IN MANY STATE INSTITUTION, IT'S 4548 02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:46,360 NOW TWO THIRDS OF THE FACULTY 4549 02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:47,720 SALARIES ULTIMATELY COMING FROM 4550 02:29:47,720 --> 02:29:48,240 TUITION. 4551 02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:50,240 AND SO THOSE RESEARCH EFFORTS, 4552 02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:54,400 WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY IN TERMS OF A 4553 02:29:54,400 --> 02:29:56,800 BENEFIT TO UNDERGRADUATE 4554 02:29:56,800 --> 02:29:57,400 STUDENTS. 4555 02:29:57,400 --> 02:30:00,200 SO THIS IS A GRADATION THAT GOES 4556 02:30:00,200 --> 02:30:02,200 RIGHT ACROSS THE SPAN, BUT I 4557 02:30:02,200 --> 02:30:03,880 THINK MANY, MANY INSTITUTIONS 4558 02:30:03,880 --> 02:30:07,200 ARE HAVING TO THINK IN THIS WAY. 4559 02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:09,040 >>I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, 4560 02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:09,680 ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 4561 02:30:09,680 --> 02:30:17,280 SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE POINTS. 4562 02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:19,440 ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS? 4563 02:30:19,440 --> 02:30:20,760 IT'S BEEN A GREAT DISCUSSION. 4564 02:30:20,760 --> 02:30:21,760 I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL 4565 02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:23,320 THIS BACK, THIS WILL BE 4566 02:30:23,320 --> 02:30:24,560 EXTREMELY USEFUL IN WORKING OUT 4567 02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:25,840 THE DETAILS OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT 4568 02:30:25,840 --> 02:30:27,160 IT DOES SOUND FROM WHAT I'M 4569 02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:31,680 HEARING THAT THERE'S ENTHUSIASM 4570 02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:32,280 FOR IT. 4571 02:30:32,280 --> 02:30:32,600 SO ERICA? 4572 02:30:32,600 --> 02:30:34,680 >>I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS 4573 02:30:34,680 --> 02:30:35,480 CONCEPT FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT 4574 02:30:35,480 --> 02:30:36,160 AS A FOA. 4575 02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:39,760 ARE ANY OPPOSED? 4576 02:30:39,760 --> 02:30:41,440 THE MOTION IS UNANIMOUSLY 4577 02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:41,720 APPROVED. 4578 02:30:41,720 --> 02:30:42,200 >>TERRIFIC. 4579 02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:44,280 AND I PARTICULARLY WANT TO 4580 02:30:44,280 --> 02:30:48,120 RECOGNIZE SIDELLA BLATCH, WHO 4581 02:30:48,120 --> 02:30:49,240 REALLY HAS LED THIS EFFORT AND 4582 02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:50,440 BEEN DEVELOPING THIS CONCEPT, SO 4583 02:30:50,440 --> 02:30:52,440 SHE WILL BE TAKING THE LEAD ON 4584 02:30:52,440 --> 02:30:54,000 WORKING THIS OUT TO AN ACTUAL 4585 02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:55,640 PROGRAM. 4586 02:30:55,640 --> 02:30:56,360 THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 4587 02:30:56,360 --> 02:30:58,160 THAT WAS A TERRIFIC DISCUSSION 4588 02:30:58,160 --> 02:30:59,280 AND WE GOT A LOT DONE. 4589 02:30:59,280 --> 02:31:00,920 ARE THERE OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU 4590 02:31:00,920 --> 02:31:02,960 WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP, EITHER 4591 02:31:02,960 --> 02:31:04,160 FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION OR FOR 4592 02:31:04,160 --> 02:31:09,760 DISCUSSION NOW? 4593 02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:10,400 OKAY. 4594 02:31:10,400 --> 02:31:11,840 NOT HEARING ANY, I THINK THAT 4595 02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:12,080 THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS. 4596 02:31:12,080 --> 00:00:00,000 IN THE OPEN SESSION.