1 00:00:04,004 --> 00:00:05,606 Thanks for the talk. 2 00:00:05,606 --> 00:00:08,348 I had a question about the characteristics 3 00:00:08,348 --> 00:00:10,177 of trustworthy researchers. 4 00:00:10,544 --> 00:00:12,079 I think it was Wilkins. Yes. 5 00:00:12,079 --> 00:00:12,813 I was just curious. 6 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:17,217 Do you know how they determine what those characteristics are? 7 00:00:17,217 --> 00:00:18,785 Or do you know how, like, researchers 8 00:00:18,785 --> 00:00:19,887 might do that in general? 9 00:00:19,887 --> 00:00:21,521 Like, was it just sort of 10 00:00:21,521 --> 00:00:23,173 they had a bunch of data and they 11 00:00:23,173 --> 00:00:25,325 and they tried to notice certain patterns. 12 00:00:25,325 --> 00:00:26,810 Or do they have a particular method 13 00:00:26,810 --> 00:00:27,828 they used to find them? 14 00:00:27,828 --> 00:00:28,862 Great. 15 00:00:28,862 --> 00:00:31,164 I do not know right offhand. 16 00:00:31,164 --> 00:00:32,666 And but, 17 00:00:32,666 --> 00:00:34,813 I actually have it printed out some of 18 00:00:34,813 --> 00:00:36,904 the other kind of conceptual models. 19 00:00:36,904 --> 00:00:39,242 A lot of people have done focus groups with community 20 00:00:39,242 --> 00:00:39,640 members. 21 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,709 Some things have been surveys about like what people 22 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:45,712 perceive as like what would be like 23 00:00:46,013 --> 00:00:49,224 a trustworthy researcher or institution, 24 00:00:49,224 --> 00:00:51,151 and then, a what is it? 25 00:00:51,151 --> 00:00:53,014 And this is this for me, this anecdotally 26 00:00:53,014 --> 00:00:54,922 going to a lot of conferences about this. 27 00:00:55,222 --> 00:00:58,361 A lot of this is informed by like principles of community 28 00:00:58,361 --> 00:00:58,692 based 29 00:00:58,692 --> 00:01:00,861 participatory research and like principles 30 00:01:00,861 --> 00:01:02,462 of community engaged research, 31 00:01:02,462 --> 00:01:04,430 which, does come from the community, 32 00:01:04,430 --> 00:01:06,233 but it's also a lot of community 33 00:01:06,233 --> 00:01:09,353 minded researchers saying, in an ideal world, this 34 00:01:09,353 --> 00:01:09,603 is, 35 00:01:09,603 --> 00:01:12,572 you know, how we can do, like, research better. 36 00:01:12,906 --> 00:01:14,141 Go ahead. Brittany. 37 00:01:14,141 --> 00:01:17,077 I have a question about research match.org. 38 00:01:18,312 --> 00:01:20,925 I'm wondering how they have been publicizing 39 00:01:20,925 --> 00:01:21,281 that. 40 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:23,250 So 100,000 people signed up. 41 00:01:23,250 --> 00:01:25,373 Sounds like a lot but not compared to the 42 00:01:25,373 --> 00:01:26,253 population size. 43 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,057 It's like 120 now and it's kind of the same. 44 00:01:30,057 --> 00:01:32,191 I've given this talk over like I know like a couple of 45 00:01:32,191 --> 00:01:32,626 years ago. 46 00:01:32,626 --> 00:01:34,761 It's like at 93,000. 47 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:36,663 I'm not exactly sure. 48 00:01:36,663 --> 00:01:40,801 I know they were trying to, get the word out 49 00:01:40,801 --> 00:01:43,781 through some of the, academic partners 50 00:01:43,781 --> 00:01:45,272 that are involved. 51 00:01:45,272 --> 00:01:46,073 So I think there's like, 52 00:01:46,073 --> 00:01:48,212 I don't know, close to over a thousand 53 00:01:48,212 --> 00:01:50,577 or maybe close to 1500 institutions, but, 54 00:01:51,511 --> 00:01:53,981 I haven't really seen it, like on billboards and things. 55 00:01:53,981 --> 00:01:55,688 So it's, I think one of those things 56 00:01:55,688 --> 00:01:57,017 that if you're not probably 57 00:01:57,017 --> 00:01:59,619 like looking for it, you may not have seen it, but, 58 00:02:01,321 --> 00:02:01,621 yeah. 59 00:02:01,621 --> 00:02:05,635 And it's been, it's been around, I think for at least a decade 60 00:02:05,635 --> 00:02:05,959 now. 61 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:10,092 So maybe there were more efforts at the beginning or more obvious 62 00:02:10,092 --> 00:02:10,664 efforts. 63 00:02:10,664 --> 00:02:14,815 I know, like, for all of us, I don't see a ton for all of us 64 00:02:14,815 --> 00:02:15,369 either. 65 00:02:15,369 --> 00:02:16,762 But I do feel like when all of us 66 00:02:16,762 --> 00:02:17,437 first came out, 67 00:02:17,437 --> 00:02:19,378 especially through academic medical 68 00:02:19,378 --> 00:02:21,541 centers, it was like a big, big thing. 69 00:02:21,541 --> 00:02:24,277 And I see like billboards being like NIH. 70 00:02:24,277 --> 00:02:25,973 So I would expect to see like things 71 00:02:25,973 --> 00:02:26,680 for all of us. 72 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,190 But I don't really know how what their marketing plan is 73 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:29,683 right now. 74 00:02:29,950 --> 00:02:32,739 And then my other question is, is it largely for healthy 75 00:02:32,739 --> 00:02:33,286 volunteers 76 00:02:33,286 --> 00:02:35,594 or is it condition specific, like when you 77 00:02:35,594 --> 00:02:37,791 go in and say, I have type one diet or. 78 00:02:37,791 --> 00:02:38,925 Yeah, it's both. 79 00:02:38,925 --> 00:02:41,728 You can actually you can actually query. 80 00:02:41,728 --> 00:02:43,473 I think it's either like the About Us 81 00:02:43,473 --> 00:02:45,265 section, but you can see percentages. 82 00:02:45,899 --> 00:02:48,304 I can't I did sign up for it, but I can't remember all the 83 00:02:48,304 --> 00:02:48,802 conditions. 84 00:02:48,802 --> 00:02:50,720 But I do know like there's information 85 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,839 about people with diabetes, hypertension, 86 00:02:54,908 --> 00:02:55,509 maybe like 87 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:58,641 15 or 20 different conditions and people who are healthy 88 00:02:58,641 --> 00:02:59,312 volunteers. 89 00:02:59,579 --> 00:03:02,282 And I think, also, 90 00:03:02,282 --> 00:03:03,952 like health care, like surrogates 91 00:03:03,952 --> 00:03:05,419 who would also be interested 92 00:03:05,419 --> 00:03:06,753 in, like settings for children. 93 00:03:06,753 --> 00:03:08,890 So it's a mix of healthy volunteers and 94 00:03:08,890 --> 00:03:11,191 people who have self-reported conditions. 95 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:13,710 And, it's a registry where people 96 00:03:13,710 --> 00:03:16,229 like proactively sign up for it. 97 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:18,031 But you don't have to 98 00:03:18,031 --> 00:03:21,478 you have to be signed up to get the like, alerts every so 99 00:03:21,478 --> 00:03:21,902 often. 100 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:23,570 But anyone in the world 101 00:03:23,570 --> 00:03:27,220 kind of like clinicaltrials.gov can also go on research matched 102 00:03:27,220 --> 00:03:27,741 at work. 103 00:03:27,741 --> 00:03:30,382 Who doesn't want to sign up officially 104 00:03:30,382 --> 00:03:32,746 and also see, 2000 are available. 105 00:03:32,746 --> 00:03:34,347 So it's a mix of both. 106 00:03:34,347 --> 00:03:35,082 Thank you. Right. 107 00:03:35,082 --> 00:03:35,849 That's a good point. 108 00:03:35,849 --> 00:03:38,720 So there's hundreds of thousands of people have 109 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,453 registered. 110 00:03:39,453 --> 00:03:42,656 But if tomorrow I wanted to look at cancer 111 00:03:42,656 --> 00:03:43,190 trials 112 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:46,193 in Bethesda, I don't have to register. 113 00:03:46,193 --> 00:03:47,994 I can just use it as a search engine. 114 00:03:47,994 --> 00:03:51,073 And another just because I'm, like, nerdy 115 00:03:51,073 --> 00:03:51,898 like that. 116 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:54,697 The engine behind Research Match is actually 117 00:03:54,697 --> 00:03:55,969 clinicaltrials.gov, 118 00:03:56,303 --> 00:03:59,406 so it just it looks nicer in my opinion. 119 00:03:59,406 --> 00:04:00,440 It's more user friendly 120 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,944 to see it through the research match glove interface interface. 121 00:04:04,211 --> 00:04:06,455 But people who are like just searching 122 00:04:06,455 --> 00:04:07,814 who haven't registered 123 00:04:08,014 --> 00:04:09,804 what speeding that is actually clinical 124 00:04:09,804 --> 00:04:10,951 trials in the background 125 00:04:10,951 --> 00:04:12,966 are clinicaltrials.gov, but it just looks 126 00:04:12,966 --> 00:04:14,588 a little bit more user friendly. 127 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:15,422 Good to know. Right. 128 00:04:15,422 --> 00:04:17,953 So they learned a lesson perhaps like 129 00:04:17,953 --> 00:04:20,894 people aren't flocking to clinical trials. 130 00:04:20,894 --> 00:04:21,461 Dot gov. 131 00:04:21,461 --> 00:04:24,598 Because that sounds technical and goals and 132 00:04:25,732 --> 00:04:26,800 so. Interesting. 133 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,034 And it's useful for research. 134 00:04:28,034 --> 00:04:30,374 I mean I play around with it a lot 135 00:04:30,374 --> 00:04:32,439 but it's research not scores. 136 00:04:33,006 --> 00:04:35,667 It's really the purpose is to be a public listing of 137 00:04:35,667 --> 00:04:36,076 trials. 138 00:04:36,076 --> 00:04:38,696 I it's not always the most user friendly, 139 00:04:38,696 --> 00:04:41,381 because you have to put in a lot of words 140 00:04:41,381 --> 00:04:42,482 and how it comes up 141 00:04:42,482 --> 00:04:44,294 and just it's functional, but I don't 142 00:04:44,294 --> 00:04:46,253 I think it could be more user friendly. 143 00:04:46,253 --> 00:04:48,155 So yeah, well thank you.