1 00:00:11,945 --> 00:00:13,146 As a reminder, 2 00:00:13,146 --> 00:00:16,250 write consent is a process, not a form. 3 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:18,808 I'm going to talk a lot about the form 4 00:00:18,808 --> 00:00:20,087 as I move forward, 5 00:00:20,087 --> 00:00:22,109 but I just want to reiterate that, 6 00:00:22,109 --> 00:00:24,191 you know, informed consent process 7 00:00:24,191 --> 00:00:27,194 is the only one way to, 8 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:31,298 convey respect to the person, potential participants. 9 00:00:31,298 --> 00:00:33,755 You need to, you know, make sure that you 10 00:00:33,755 --> 00:00:34,534 respect them 11 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:36,531 and in all sorts of ways, even after 12 00:00:36,531 --> 00:00:38,639 you've gotten their informed consent. 13 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:42,876 So I'm going to talk a little about best practices, 14 00:00:43,076 --> 00:00:45,141 about the form and then promoting 15 00:00:45,141 --> 00:00:46,079 understanding. 16 00:00:46,546 --> 00:00:49,554 So style and again I'm not going to read all of 17 00:00:49,554 --> 00:00:50,450 these to you. 18 00:00:50,450 --> 00:00:52,258 And some of these should be I would 19 00:00:52,258 --> 00:00:54,221 imagine pretty straightforward right. 20 00:00:54,855 --> 00:00:59,498 If you imagine, you know, the last time I read a book by 21 00:00:59,498 --> 00:01:00,327 Faulkner, 22 00:01:00,327 --> 00:01:03,610 it was really hard to read because it was 23 00:01:03,610 --> 00:01:05,933 basically one long sentence. 24 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:09,458 Very complicated words, very complicated 25 00:01:09,458 --> 00:01:09,937 text. 26 00:01:10,304 --> 00:01:10,604 Right. 27 00:01:10,604 --> 00:01:14,488 You're looking for something that has short sentences, short 28 00:01:14,488 --> 00:01:14,942 words, 29 00:01:15,475 --> 00:01:18,211 and importantly, like states 30 00:01:18,211 --> 00:01:21,782 one main idea clearly in each paragraph. 31 00:01:22,215 --> 00:01:25,552 And you know, you'll be maybe not surprised to learn 32 00:01:25,552 --> 00:01:29,333 that putting space between paragraphs is really 33 00:01:29,333 --> 00:01:30,057 helpful. 34 00:01:30,691 --> 00:01:34,761 When someone is given a form that is 25 pages long. 35 00:01:35,128 --> 00:01:38,175 Yes, adding some space may make it longer, 36 00:01:38,175 --> 00:01:38,465 but 37 00:01:38,732 --> 00:01:42,037 it's a it's a message to the individual 38 00:01:42,037 --> 00:01:42,970 that it's. 39 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:45,405 Here is one idea. 40 00:01:47,708 --> 00:01:50,709 So, you know, present a clear sequence 41 00:01:50,709 --> 00:01:51,578 of events. 42 00:01:51,578 --> 00:01:53,213 I was reviewing a protocol. 43 00:01:53,213 --> 00:01:57,951 We had a consult, the other day where, 44 00:01:59,619 --> 00:02:01,886 individual clinician is concerned 45 00:02:01,886 --> 00:02:03,123 about the ability 46 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:07,527 of the participant to read consent to a protocol. 47 00:02:07,527 --> 00:02:09,863 There was a change in the protocol. 48 00:02:09,863 --> 00:02:12,261 That means that the consent form changed 49 00:02:12,261 --> 00:02:13,100 in this case, 50 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:16,103 and everybody has to be re re consented. 51 00:02:17,404 --> 00:02:21,508 The one of the ways that they organize 52 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:24,398 their data was they had this really lovely 53 00:02:24,398 --> 00:02:24,811 table 54 00:02:25,278 --> 00:02:28,111 and there was a little icon or an emoji, 55 00:02:28,111 --> 00:02:28,749 I guess. 56 00:02:28,749 --> 00:02:29,983 And these days. 57 00:02:29,983 --> 00:02:31,818 And that was like a blood draw. 58 00:02:31,818 --> 00:02:33,587 So they had a picture of a needle 59 00:02:33,587 --> 00:02:35,355 and talked about the blood draw. 60 00:02:35,355 --> 00:02:38,358 And then they had a picture of there was a 61 00:02:38,558 --> 00:02:41,112 in some cases they may take a biopsy of the 62 00:02:41,112 --> 00:02:41,528 liver. 63 00:02:41,528 --> 00:02:43,630 So there was a little picture of a liver, 64 00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:47,262 only to say, like you don't, you can use things other than 65 00:02:47,262 --> 00:02:47,701 words. 66 00:02:49,202 --> 00:02:52,272 Images, photographs, all sorts of things 67 00:02:52,272 --> 00:02:55,264 under the heading of making it as clear as 68 00:02:55,264 --> 00:02:55,976 possible, 69 00:02:56,443 --> 00:02:59,178 what the person is getting themselves 70 00:02:59,178 --> 00:03:01,248 into avoiding legal jargon. 71 00:03:01,815 --> 00:03:04,084 Write it in a conversational style 72 00:03:04,084 --> 00:03:05,218 and after voice. 73 00:03:06,453 --> 00:03:07,821 Be consistent. 74 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:11,491 This is often something that, I encounter 75 00:03:11,992 --> 00:03:15,462 when folks are just starting to write a consent form. 76 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:18,565 When you learned how to write an essay 77 00:03:18,565 --> 00:03:21,668 in English class in high school or in college, 78 00:03:22,602 --> 00:03:24,535 you might have heard your teacher 79 00:03:24,535 --> 00:03:25,705 say something like, 80 00:03:25,705 --> 00:03:29,042 use different words to convey the same point, right? 81 00:03:29,042 --> 00:03:31,701 It gets kind of boring if you use the same word over 82 00:03:31,701 --> 00:03:32,212 and over. 83 00:03:32,779 --> 00:03:35,702 In this case, you really want to make sure 84 00:03:35,702 --> 00:03:37,651 you're using the same words 85 00:03:37,651 --> 00:03:39,690 to describe the same thing on page 86 00:03:39,690 --> 00:03:41,788 one as you're using to describe it 87 00:03:41,788 --> 00:03:43,793 on page two, because describing it 88 00:03:43,793 --> 00:03:46,093 differently, the person be like, wait, 89 00:03:46,093 --> 00:03:47,761 is this what they just told me about? 90 00:03:47,761 --> 00:03:48,929 Or is this a new thing? 91 00:03:50,097 --> 00:03:50,897 No. Your 92 00:03:50,897 --> 00:03:55,202 audience, I this is really important. 93 00:03:55,202 --> 00:03:57,140 I don't think we spend enough time 94 00:03:57,140 --> 00:03:59,306 as investigators thinking about this, 95 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:02,642 that when your planning your protocol, 96 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:06,079 you likely have in mind your sample population. 97 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:10,083 And who's the average person in that sample population? 98 00:04:10,517 --> 00:04:12,919 If the average person in your sample 99 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:14,788 population is not literate, 100 00:04:15,222 --> 00:04:18,258 that's very different than the average person in 101 00:04:18,258 --> 00:04:21,276 your sample is a clinical investigator 102 00:04:21,276 --> 00:04:22,229 at the NIH, 103 00:04:22,496 --> 00:04:25,365 you're going to have a very different approach 104 00:04:25,365 --> 00:04:28,175 to thinking about how best to write 105 00:04:28,175 --> 00:04:30,504 and convey that information. 106 00:04:30,504 --> 00:04:33,048 Now, the default of doing something 107 00:04:33,048 --> 00:04:35,375 that's readable is always good, 108 00:04:35,375 --> 00:04:38,411 regardless of whether they're not literate 109 00:04:38,411 --> 00:04:40,147 or an NIH investigator. 110 00:04:40,413 --> 00:04:42,724 But knowing your audience is really 111 00:04:42,724 --> 00:04:43,450 important. 112 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:46,453 Another thing is that, 113 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:50,023 you know, no offense to all the MD 114 00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:51,932 PhD is here at the clinical center 115 00:04:51,932 --> 00:04:53,560 and out in the audience, but 116 00:04:54,094 --> 00:04:58,331 you never took a class called How to Write a Consent form. 117 00:04:58,331 --> 00:05:02,740 You took classes to prepare you to write grant proposals, 118 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:03,436 articles 119 00:05:03,436 --> 00:05:06,806 published in Njm, you know, presentations 120 00:05:06,806 --> 00:05:08,942 to a world wide audience. 121 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:12,812 You know, you may not have 122 00:05:12,812 --> 00:05:15,979 the ability and be humble about not having 123 00:05:15,979 --> 00:05:16,883 the ability 124 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:21,254 to have someone help you out in writing your form. 125 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:25,525 You know, sometimes you can have it reviewed by a patient or, 126 00:05:26,059 --> 00:05:28,703 you know, I often say, well, I'd have my grandmother 127 00:05:28,703 --> 00:05:29,262 review it, 128 00:05:29,629 --> 00:05:32,732 or someone in your life who is perhaps 129 00:05:32,732 --> 00:05:35,702 more average than you because you're an MD, PhD. 130 00:05:36,403 --> 00:05:38,418 Review the form and circle the words 131 00:05:38,418 --> 00:05:39,706 they don't understand. 132 00:05:41,508 --> 00:05:42,909 In terms of format. 133 00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:48,315 Again, to me, really obvious, but readable, like no Comic Sans 134 00:05:48,315 --> 00:05:50,250 in the consent form. 135 00:05:50,250 --> 00:05:53,887 Use large point, uppercase and lowercase, 136 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:58,065 double spaced, have a blend of white space and 137 00:05:58,065 --> 00:05:58,558 text. 138 00:05:58,892 --> 00:06:02,429 Again, I appreciate that this might make things longer, 139 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:05,498 but it's also going to make it more readable. 140 00:06:05,498 --> 00:06:07,500 And I should say it's not the case 141 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:09,736 that consent forms in the recent past 142 00:06:09,736 --> 00:06:12,189 have gone from ten pages to 20 pages, 143 00:06:12,189 --> 00:06:14,708 because they are double spacing them. 144 00:06:14,975 --> 00:06:18,278 They are still single spaced ten pages 145 00:06:18,278 --> 00:06:21,147 now single spaced 20 plus pages. 146 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:25,752 Now, I just want to go to understanding. 147 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:29,256 And so I, I have, 148 00:06:30,323 --> 00:06:33,326 goal of making all of you 149 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,788 believers in what I'm about to share with you because I 150 00:06:37,788 --> 00:06:38,832 think it's the 151 00:06:39,132 --> 00:06:42,235 a really good, thoughtful way to assess 152 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:45,505 understanding and a understanding. 153 00:06:45,505 --> 00:06:48,875 We know from the literature that understanding is improved 154 00:06:49,209 --> 00:06:53,013 when patients are subjects, verbalize information. 155 00:06:53,013 --> 00:06:56,002 So if you ask them an open ended question 156 00:06:56,002 --> 00:06:56,950 and ask them 157 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:59,953 to verbalize what they understand, 158 00:07:00,453 --> 00:07:03,423 because you can then intervene and talk further, 159 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:06,914 it actually improves understanding 160 00:07:06,914 --> 00:07:08,762 and understanding 161 00:07:08,762 --> 00:07:11,398 is improved by administering quizzes 162 00:07:11,398 --> 00:07:14,034 and correcting incorrect responses. 163 00:07:14,034 --> 00:07:17,904 But frankly, I think that's a bit of teaching to the test, 164 00:07:17,904 --> 00:07:18,371 right? 165 00:07:18,371 --> 00:07:21,641 So let's say I give Alex the quiz. 166 00:07:21,641 --> 00:07:22,776 There's ten questions. 167 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:25,578 The first time he takes it he gets five. Right. 168 00:07:25,578 --> 00:07:27,714 My cut is seven. 169 00:07:27,714 --> 00:07:30,900 So I could say, sorry Alex, you can't be in my 170 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:31,384 study. 171 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:33,586 But what a lot of studies do is they say, 172 00:07:33,586 --> 00:07:36,189 okay Alex, let's review the ones you got wrong. 173 00:07:36,189 --> 00:07:39,359 You said true on these and they were false. 174 00:07:39,359 --> 00:07:41,461 Let's give you the quiz again. Now, 175 00:07:42,862 --> 00:07:44,606 if Alex doesn't get the quiz right 176 00:07:44,606 --> 00:07:46,299 that time, then we're concerned. 177 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:49,703 But it's highly likely that Alex is going to pass it. 178 00:07:49,703 --> 00:07:52,171 I don't think that's a robust way 179 00:07:52,171 --> 00:07:54,341 of assessing, understanding. 180 00:07:54,341 --> 00:07:57,344 So here's what I want you all to do. 181 00:07:59,012 --> 00:08:01,081 So you've written your consent form 182 00:08:01,081 --> 00:08:03,650 and you're ready to open your study 183 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:05,118 and bring folks in. 184 00:08:05,685 --> 00:08:06,653 You've recruited them. 185 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:08,822 You're now scheduling them. 186 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:13,360 I want you to think about what, for your study 187 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,109 are the most important things that you want this person to 188 00:08:17,109 --> 00:08:17,497 know. 189 00:08:18,398 --> 00:08:22,017 And I'm going to posit that these things that I've 190 00:08:22,017 --> 00:08:23,103 listed up here 191 00:08:23,103 --> 00:08:24,818 are likely at least some of the things 192 00:08:24,818 --> 00:08:26,172 you're going to want to know. 193 00:08:26,873 --> 00:08:29,999 And I also want you to prepare answers 194 00:08:29,999 --> 00:08:31,644 to those questions. 195 00:08:32,045 --> 00:08:34,158 If you are answering the question 196 00:08:34,158 --> 00:08:36,016 or having reviewed the form, 197 00:08:36,016 --> 00:08:37,915 how do you think you would answer those 198 00:08:37,915 --> 00:08:38,451 questions? 199 00:08:38,451 --> 00:08:42,870 So you have in your mind this is the, maybe not the right 200 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:43,490 answer, 201 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:46,593 but this is an adequate response to my question. 202 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:50,697 And now you're ready to ask the participant 203 00:08:50,697 --> 00:08:52,857 after you've gone through the consent 204 00:08:52,857 --> 00:08:55,135 form, a series of questions like this. 205 00:08:55,135 --> 00:08:56,870 They're open ended. 206 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:59,439 So, for example, if you're going to go home 207 00:08:59,439 --> 00:09:00,940 and tell a friend about this study what 208 00:09:00,940 --> 00:09:02,442 the study's about, what would you say? 209 00:09:02,942 --> 00:09:03,476 Right. 210 00:09:03,476 --> 00:09:06,674 That's that's not saying tell me the purpose of the 211 00:09:06,674 --> 00:09:07,113 study. 212 00:09:07,113 --> 00:09:09,315 I want, in their words, 213 00:09:09,315 --> 00:09:10,998 for them to tell me what they think 214 00:09:10,998 --> 00:09:12,585 they're getting themselves into. 215 00:09:13,052 --> 00:09:15,688 Now, if they say, oh, gosh, 216 00:09:15,688 --> 00:09:18,267 this study is going to cure my cancer, 217 00:09:18,267 --> 00:09:19,759 that may not be true. 218 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:22,829 That creates an opportunity for you to say, oh, 219 00:09:22,829 --> 00:09:24,967 that's interesting that you heard that, 220 00:09:24,967 --> 00:09:26,666 let me tell you a little more. 221 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:28,902 It's actually not going to cure your cancer. 222 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:31,271 It's going to do X, Y, or Z. Right. 223 00:09:32,338 --> 00:09:33,740 And we'll set aside for 224 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:35,799 a moment the folks who insist that it's 225 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:37,277 going to cure their cancer. 226 00:09:37,544 --> 00:09:40,447 Let's assume that at least having a conversation with them, 227 00:09:40,447 --> 00:09:42,828 or that highlights something that they may not 228 00:09:42,828 --> 00:09:43,450 understand. 229 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:46,052 And then what's going to happen to you? 230 00:09:46,052 --> 00:09:47,287 Right. 231 00:09:47,287 --> 00:09:50,927 Are you going to get some MRI, some Pet scans, a blood draw, 232 00:09:50,927 --> 00:09:51,291 etc.? 233 00:09:52,459 --> 00:09:55,306 And if there are particular things 234 00:09:55,306 --> 00:09:56,729 about your study 235 00:09:56,729 --> 00:09:59,017 that you're really it's really important 236 00:09:59,017 --> 00:10:00,733 for you to know them to know. 237 00:10:00,733 --> 00:10:02,268 So, for example, 238 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:04,347 let's say I'm doing a longitudinal study 239 00:10:04,347 --> 00:10:05,905 and I need people to come in. 240 00:10:05,905 --> 00:10:08,942 And this was a study we also got to consult about the other day. 241 00:10:09,709 --> 00:10:11,911 I'm going to take your blood today. 242 00:10:11,911 --> 00:10:15,014 I'm going to have you come back every week, 243 00:10:15,515 --> 00:10:17,724 and I'm going to measure a substance 244 00:10:17,724 --> 00:10:19,319 in your blood every week, 245 00:10:19,819 --> 00:10:21,020 and you're going to have to come 246 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:24,055 back every week until I can't see that substance 247 00:10:24,055 --> 00:10:24,624 anymore. 248 00:10:25,124 --> 00:10:27,393 The average person, it's ten weeks. 249 00:10:27,393 --> 00:10:30,663 But I've had someone for whom it's taken 20 weeks. 250 00:10:31,164 --> 00:10:32,532 Are you ready? 251 00:10:32,532 --> 00:10:35,401 And do you like, is this going to work for you? 252 00:10:35,401 --> 00:10:38,538 Do you think you could come back 20 times once a week? 253 00:10:38,538 --> 00:10:40,206 That might be really important, right? 254 00:10:40,206 --> 00:10:42,026 Because if someone says, oh gosh, no, 255 00:10:42,026 --> 00:10:44,043 I'm going on vacation for three weeks or 256 00:10:44,244 --> 00:10:47,247 oh gosh, no, in a month, I'm switching jobs 257 00:10:47,247 --> 00:10:49,782 and they're not going to be, as you know, flexible. 258 00:10:49,782 --> 00:10:52,385 So that might be something really important for your study. 259 00:10:53,453 --> 00:10:54,487 What are the risk? 260 00:10:54,487 --> 00:10:55,969 What are the potential bad things 261 00:10:55,969 --> 00:10:56,823 that might happen? 262 00:10:56,823 --> 00:10:58,791 What are the good things that might happen? 263 00:10:58,791 --> 00:11:01,361 And then voluntariness 264 00:11:01,361 --> 00:11:04,297 randomization as we've described is always 265 00:11:04,297 --> 00:11:06,281 a really challenging thing for folks 266 00:11:06,281 --> 00:11:07,934 to understand and appreciate. 267 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:09,903 But if there is randomization 268 00:11:09,903 --> 00:11:11,751 that might be something you really want 269 00:11:11,751 --> 00:11:13,172 to make sure they understand. 270 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:19,112 So I want you to all go out and use this approach 271 00:11:19,112 --> 00:11:22,036 and tell all your friends about it so that 272 00:11:22,036 --> 00:11:24,751 we just diffuse this across the globe. 273 00:11:24,751 --> 00:11:25,385 That's my plan.