1 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,880 >> GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,680 THE 2022 DAY TWO OF THE ENERGY 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,520 AND WATER CONSERVATION TRACK. 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,800 MY NAME IS DIANA AND I'M A 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,240 CONTRACT SUSTAINABILITY ENGINEER 6 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:22,040 WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,360 AND HUMAN SERVICES AND I'LL 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,920 SERVE AS THE MODERATOR TODAY. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,480 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GREAT 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,720 WORKSHOPS COMING UP AND WE'VE 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,640 GOT GREAT EXPERTS TO GIVE US 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,760 INFORMATION AND FIRST ON 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,040 DECARBONIZATION PROCUREMENT IN 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,120 THE FEDERAL SECTOR AND LATER 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,880 STORAGE AT FEDERAL FACILITIES. 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,040 JUST A REMINDER AT THE BOTTOM OF 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,600 THE SCREEN, THERE'S A LENGTH TO 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,040 SEND A QUESTION AND WE'LL 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,600 RECEIVE TO MAKE SURE OUR 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,080 PRESENTERS SEE THOSE AND FEEL 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,240 FREE TO SEND IN THOSE QUESTIONS 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,440 AS THEY COME TO MIND AND THEY 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,280 WILL ANSWER WHEN THEY HAVE THE 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:03,600 OPPORTUNITIES. 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:13,640 SO I'D LIKE TO WE HAVE DOUGLAS 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,040 PROVIDING EARLY STAGE 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,600 PROCUREMENT SUPPORT FOR 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,320 RENEWABLE ENERGY AND RESILIENCE 29 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:19,600 PROJECTS. 30 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,400 WE HAVE Dr. NICOLE FROM 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,520 SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY POLO AT 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,880 THE US DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY 33 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,200 FEDERAL ENERGY MANAGEMENT 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,320 PROGRAM, JENNY HEATER IS A 35 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:36,120 SENIOR ENERGY ANNALIST AND 36 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,520 CURRENTLY SERVING ON A DETAIL 37 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,800 ASSIGNMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,000 OF ENERGY OFFICE OF ECONOMIC 39 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,920 IMPACT AND DIVERSITY TO SUPPORT 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,800 IMPLEMENTATION OF BIDEN JUSTICE 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:46,960 40. 42 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:51,080 WE HAVE CHANDRA SHAH A SENIOR 43 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,080 PROJECT LEADER AT NREL WHERE 44 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,840 SHE'S THE LABORATORY LEAD FOR 45 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,440 THE FEDERAL ENERGY MANAGEMENT 46 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,280 PROGRAMS UTILITIES DEPARTMENT 47 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,960 AND JOHN MYHRE A SENIOR PROJECT 48 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,600 MANAGER WHERE HE PROVIDES 49 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,480 TRAINING, TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AND 50 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,080 SUPPORT IN THE AREA OF 51 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,920 PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING AND 52 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:13,760 DISTRIBUTE ENERGY PROCUREMENT. 53 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,600 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM. 54 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,800 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 55 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,240 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, THANK 56 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,080 YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS 57 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 PRESENTATION IN THE FEDERAL 58 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,640 SECTOR AND WE LIKE TO INTRODUCE 59 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,680 OURSELVES AND MY NAME IS NICOLE 60 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,600 LIEBOV WITH THE REGION MANAGER 61 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,560 AND INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUES SO 62 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,480 WE'LL HAVE A QUICK SLIDE ON THAT 63 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,200 WITH OUR CONTACT INFORMATION 64 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:43,560 SHORTLY. 65 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,760 BEFORE WE GET STARTED I WOULD 66 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,480 LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE 67 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,280 OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE 68 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,360 ORGANIZERS FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO 69 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,120 PRESENT THIS WORK AND ALL OF THE 70 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,280 EFFORTS TO HELP MAKE THIS 71 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:04,560 SYMPOSIUM RUN SMOOTHLY. 72 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,520 SO HERE WE HAVE OUR AGENDA. 73 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,800 FIRST WE'LL ARE AN INTRODUCTION 74 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,680 ON THE BASICS OF THE DECOR 75 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,760 BONNIZATION INCLUDING TERMOLOGY, 76 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,760 FEDERAL POLICIES AND OVERVIEW OF 77 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,520 PROCUREMENT PATHWAYS AND NEXT 78 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,400 WE'LL DISCUSS VARIOUS TYPES OF 79 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,880 ON-SITE FOR DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP 80 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,400 MODELS AND KEY CONSIDERATION 81 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,080 CHALLENGES AND SOLUTIONS. 82 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 IN THE FOLLOWING SECTION ON 83 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,240 OFF-SITE PURCHASING METHODS 84 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,200 WE'LL HAVE PATHWAYS AND THE 85 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,680 RELATIONSHIP TO A SITE UTILITY 86 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,080 MARKET STRUCTURE. 87 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,720 NEXT IN THE PROCUREMENT 88 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,120 CONSIDERATION SECTION WE'LL 89 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,000 DISCUSS STRATEGIES THAT APPLY TO 90 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,560 MULTIPLE PATHWAYS INCLUDING A 91 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,200 PURCHASE BETTER HOURLY DATA AND 92 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,840 EMISSIONS INFORMATION AND WE'LL 93 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,760 CONCLUDE WITH LESSONS LEARNS 94 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,840 BEFORE HIGHLIGHTING RESOURCES 95 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,680 FROM SOURCES AND HOLDING A Q&A 96 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:58,920 SESSION. 97 00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,880 PLEASE BE SURE TO ENTER 98 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,360 QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE WEBINAR 99 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,680 SO WE CAN WORK TO ANSWER THOSE 100 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,800 WHEN WE GET TO THE Q&A SESSION 101 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,840 AT THE END. 102 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,640 OUR PRIMARY LEARNING OBJECTIVES 103 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,720 TODAY ARE FOCUSED ON IDENTIFYING 104 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,440 THOSE PROCUREMENT PATHWAYS AND 105 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:20,280 UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BEST FIT IS 106 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:22,280 FOR ON AND OFF-SITE AND THE 107 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:23,600 OPTIMIZATION OF ENERGY 108 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:30,760 PROCUREMENT OFF THE PORTFOLIO. 109 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,800 THE NAMES AND CONTACT 110 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,240 INFORMATION SO WE'RE ON THE 111 00:04:33,240 --> 00:05:04,040 PRESENTATION THIS MORNING AND 112 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:10,280 AND LEVERAGING BEST PRACTICES 113 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:11,880 AND DISTRIBUTED ENERGY PROGRAMS 114 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:17,840 IS FOCUSED ON FACILITATING THE 115 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,120 PLANNING WITH COST EFFECTIVE 116 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,280 RESOURCES WHICH INCLUDES 117 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,440 RENEWABLE ENERGY, ENERGY POWER 118 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,040 TECHNOLOGIES FOR FEDERAL 119 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:46,200 AGENCIES AND WITH THE UP-TO-DATE 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,200 INFORMATION POSSIBLE AND SO I 121 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,240 ALSO HOPE BY MONTHLY INTERAGENCY 122 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,200 WORKING GROUP AND IF YOU ARE 123 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,240 INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN 124 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:59,400 THAT FORUM, SEND ME AN E-MAIL 125 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,160 WHICH IS ALSO MEANT ON THE 126 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,760 EARLIER SLIDE TO BE ADDED WITH 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,320 THAT LIST AND I'LL TURN IT OVER 128 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:12,400 TO JOHN FORA JOHN FOR AN EASTERLY YEAR 129 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:12,800 DECARBONIZATION. 130 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,560 >> SO WE'LL GO OVER SOME 131 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,080 TERMOLOGY AND POLICY RELATED TO 132 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,400 DECARBONIZATION AND TAKE A REAL 133 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,440 QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE 134 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,160 PROTUREMENT PATHWAYS FOR IN THE 135 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,560 FEDERAL SECTOR AS NICOLE 136 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,320 MENTIONED AND I'LL START WITH 137 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:29,600 TERMINOLOGY. 138 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,320 WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH EACH OF 139 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:31,760 THESE TERMS. 140 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,040 A LOT OF THESE MAY BE PRETTY 141 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,600 NEW. 142 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,720 SO, DECARBONIZATION, WE'RE 143 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,440 DEFINING AS MOVING AWAY FROM 144 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,080 FOSSIL FUEL COMBUSTION AND 145 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,000 ASSOCIATED RELEASE OF CO2 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,520 EMISSIONS TOWARDS A MORE 147 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,600 EFFICIENT USE OF THE 148 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,000 EMISSION-FREE ENERGY SOURCES. 149 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,120 CARBON POLLUTION-FREE 150 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,880 ELECTRICITY, CFE IS ELECTRICAL 151 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,000 ENERGY PRODUCED FROM RESOURCES 152 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,920 THAT GENERATE NO CARBON EMISSION 153 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,640 AND THAT INCLUDES MARINE ENERGY, 154 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,040 SOLAR, WIND, HYDRO KINETIC, 155 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,200 GEOTHERMAL, RENEWLY SOURCES 156 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,320 HYDROGEN AND ELECTRICAL ENERGY 157 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,840 GENERATION FROM FOSSIL RESOURCES 158 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:11,280 TO THE EXTENT THERE'S ACTIVE 159 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,520 CAPTURE AND STORAGE OF CO2 160 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,440 EMISSIONS MEETING EPA 161 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:16,800 REQUIREMENTS. 162 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,520 AND THAT DEFINITION IS FROM 163 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,160 EXECUTIVE ORDER 14057, WHICH 164 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,680 WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT FEW 165 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,400 SLIDES. 166 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,400 ELECTRIFICATION IS SUBSTITUTING 167 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,960 ELECTRICAL TERNE TIVE FOR 168 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,200 TRADITIONALLY FOSSIL FUEL 169 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,200 APPLICATIONS AND SOME EXAMPLES 170 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,440 OF THAT WOULD INCLUDE ELECTRIC 171 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:42,120 VEHICLES FOR TRANSPORTATION, AND 172 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,400 HEAT PUMPS. 173 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,520 24/7 CARBON POLLUTION-FREE 174 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:46,800 ELECTRICITY. 175 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,720 WE DEFINE THAT AS CARBON 176 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:52,800 POLLUTION PROCURED TO MATCH THE 177 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,320 ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION AT A 178 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,800 FACILITY ON AN HOURLY BASIS AND 179 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,080 PRODUCE WITHIN THE SAME REGIONAL 180 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,840 GRID WHERE THAT ENERGY IS 181 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:01,160 CONSUMED. 182 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,720 IT'S FROM EXECUTIVE ORDER 14057. 183 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,640 RENEWABLE ENERGY SER DIVOTS, ARE 184 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,240 A TRADE ABLE MARKET BASED 185 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,920 INDONESIA THAT REPRESENTS THE 186 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 LEGAL PROPERTY RIGHTS TO THE 187 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,880 RENEWABLE MESS AND ALL NON POWER 188 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,800 ATTRIBUTES AND RENEWABLE 189 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:27,640 ELECTRICITY AND USING THE 190 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,200 RENEWABLE ENERGY ASSOCIATED WITH 191 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:29,880 THAT REC. 192 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,360 A REC IS ISSUED FOR EVERY MEGA 193 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,200 WATT HOUR OF ELECTRICITY AND 194 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,600 THAT IS GENERATED AND DELIVERED 195 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,520 TO THE ELECTRIC GRID FROM A 196 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:48,080 RENEWABLE ENERGY RESOURCE. 197 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,960 >> WE'VE GOT EXECUTIVE ORDER 198 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,800 13990 RESTORING SCIENCE TO 199 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 TACKLE THE CLIMATE CRISIS AND 200 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,760 14008 TACKLING THE CLIMATE 201 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,560 CRISIS AT HOME AND ABROAD AND 202 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,040 THE NEW ONE YOU MAY HAVE HEARD 203 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,720 EXECUTIVE ORDER 14057, 204 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,400 CATALYZING AMERICA'S CLEAN 205 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,400 ENERGY ECONOMY THROUGH FEDERAL 206 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,320 SUSTAINABILITY AND SOME OF THE 207 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,200 GOALS FROM THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER 208 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,600 14057 INCLUDE 100% CARBON FREE 209 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,440 ELECTRICITY ON A NET ANNUAL 210 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,560 BASIS BY 2030 AND IT INCLUDES A 211 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:32,480 50% 24/7 CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY 212 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:43,560 GOAL. 213 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:45,200 WE'LL TALK ABOUT SCOPES ONE AND 214 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:53,040 TWO HERE IN A MOMENT. 215 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,360 WE'RE HOPING TO SEE THAT IN THE 216 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,240 NEXT FEW MONTHS AND I WANT TO BE 217 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,240 CLEAR THIS DOES NOT PROVIDE 218 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,560 GUIDANCE RELATE TODAY THAT 219 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:01,040 EXECUTIVE ORDER BUT IT 220 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,240 SUMMARIZES THE TOOLS THAT CAN BE 221 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,880 USED TO PROCURE CARBON FREE 222 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,360 ELECTRICITY. 223 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,920 SO, AS I SAID, HERE IS SOME OF 224 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,200 OUR SOURCES OF GREENHOUSE GAS 225 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,240 EMISSIONS INCLUDING THOSE 226 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:14,480 SCOPES. 227 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,280 YOU SEE AT TOP, WE HAVE OUR 228 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,520 COMMON SOURCES OF FEDERAL 229 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,240 GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND CO2 230 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,840 AS WELL AS OTHER POLLUTANTS AND 231 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,720 A LOT OF TIMES YOU WILL SEE 232 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,280 SOMETHING CALLED CO2 EQUIVALENT. 233 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,920 AS A WAY OF MEASURING ALL OF 234 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,120 THESE. 235 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,800 WE WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DOUGH 236 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,400 TAIL BUT THAT'S THE WAY OF 237 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,680 MEASURING GREENHOUSE GASES TO CO 238 00:10:39,680 --> 00:11:02,000 CO2 AND THOSE CALL INTO SCOPE 239 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,560 ONE EMISSIONS SCOPE TWO 240 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:05,000 EMISSIONS ARE EMISSIONS FROM 241 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 PURCHASE TO ELECTRICITY THAT IS 242 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,400 USED BY THE IF STYL FACILITY AND THAT'S 243 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,720 EMISSIONS GENERATED FROM THE 244 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,880 UTILITY PROVIDING ELECTRICITY TO 245 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,360 THE FACILITY AND THOSE ALL FALL 246 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,160 UNDER SCOPE 2 EMISSION AND SCOPE 247 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,920 3 EMISSIONS ARE GREENHOUSE GAS 248 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,600 EMISSIONS FROM SOURCES NOT OWNED 249 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,280 OR CONTROLLED BY A FEDERAL 250 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,800 AGENCY BUT ARE RELATED TO 251 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,600 ACTIVITIES SO THIS WOULD INCLUDE 252 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:38,600 AIR TRAVEL FOR BUSINESS AND 253 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,080 CARBON POLLUTION THERE AND SOLID 254 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,000 WASTE THAT'S GENERATED BY THE 255 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,200 AGENCY ALL FALLS UNDER SCOPE 256 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:49,360 THREE EMISSIONS AND SO I'M GOING 257 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,200 TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT 258 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,840 DECARBONIZATION PATHWAYS AND 259 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,640 THIS IS JUST A REAL BROAD 260 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,680 OVERVIEW OF HOW TO IDENTIFY A 261 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,880 PATHWAY TO DECARBONIZATION SO 262 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,120 THEY START BY DOCUMENTS YOUR 263 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,400 BASELINE SCOPE ONE AND TWO 264 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,360 EMISSIONS AND I MEAN DOCUMENTS 265 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,600 YOUR STOKE ONE AND TWO EMISSIONS 266 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,120 AS THEY ARE NOW AT YOUR FACILITY 267 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,480 INSTALLATION. 268 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,000 LOOKING AT SCOPE ONE AND TWO 269 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,440 EMISSIONS IDENTIFYING ROAD 270 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,240 REDUCTION AND EFFICIENCY 271 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,720 OPPORTUNITIES ASSOCIATE THE WITH 272 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,160 SOURCES AND WITH ALL SOURCES ON 273 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,760 THE FACILITY AND STEP 3 IS TO 274 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,760 ELECTRIFY THAT EQUIPMENT THAT IS 275 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,160 AVAILABLE TO BE ELECTRIFIED SO 276 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,400 AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE SWITCHING 277 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,480 YOUR VEHICLE FLEET OVER TO 278 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,480 ELECTRIC AND THE CARBON FREE 279 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,160 ELECTRIC PURCHASING WHICH 280 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,840 INCLUDES ON SITE CFE GENERATION 281 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,800 AND STORAGE AND OFF SITE CFE 282 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,040 PURCHASES AND WE'LL GO INTO THAT 283 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,880 A LITTLE MORE IN THE NEXT SLIDE, 284 00:12:58,880 --> 00:12:59,720 PLEASE. 285 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,840 SO, HERE IS A BROAD FOUR GROUPS 286 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,800 OF CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY THAT 287 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,480 CAN BE USED AND PROCURED FOR 288 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,520 DECARBONIZATION. 289 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,360 STARTING FROM THE TOP-LEFT AND 290 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,040 GOING CLOCK WISE WE HAVE ON SIDE 291 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,120 CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY 292 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,520 GOVERNMENT OWNED AND ON SITE 293 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,760 ELECTRICITY THAT IS PRIVATELY 294 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:28,320 OWNED AND WE HAVE HOSTED ON SITE 295 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,920 CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY PROJECTS 296 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,800 PRIVATELY OWN AND OFF-SITE THAT 297 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,200 ARE PRIVATELY OWNED. 298 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,320 AND WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN 299 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,200 IT OVER TO CHANDRA. 300 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:41,520 THANK YOU. 301 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,200 >> THANK YOU, JOHN. 302 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,880 SO, I'M GOING TO COVER OPTIONS 303 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:54,600 TO PROCURE CFE FROM ON SITE 304 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:54,880 PROJECTS. 305 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,600 THIS IS A BROAD OVERVIEW OF 306 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,920 OPTIONS FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND 307 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,200 IT'S WHETHER THE SYSTEM IS 308 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,320 GOVERNMENT OWNED OR PRIVATELY 309 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,400 OPENED ANOWNED AND PRIVATELY OWNED AND 310 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,040 WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE 311 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:09,400 OPTIONS. 312 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,040 IF YOU HAVE APPROPRIATIONS 313 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,720 THAT'S GREAT, GO AHEAD AND 314 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,000 IMPLEMENTATION A PROJECT. 315 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,560 MOST AGENCIES DON'T HAVE 316 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,000 SUFFICIENT APPROPRIATION TO 317 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS SO THE OTHER 318 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,160 OPTIONS ARE WHAT I WILL FOCUS 319 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,360 ON. 320 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,760 NEXT SLIDE, UNDER THE 321 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,080 GOVERNMENT-OWNED CATEGORY, NEXT 322 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,600 SLIDE, PLEASE, PERFORMANCE 323 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,960 CONTRACTING IS A GREAT METHOD 324 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,840 FOR IMPLEMENTING PROJECTS SO TWO 325 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,000 OPTIONS HERE AND THE ENERGY 326 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,920 SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACT AND 327 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,080 IN BOTH CASES, THE ON SITE CFE 328 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,760 PROJECT COULD BE COMBINED AND 329 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,400 BUNDLED WITH OTHER ENERGY 330 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,360 CONSERVATION MEASURES OR ECMs 331 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,400 AND IN BOTH CASES THE CONTRACT 332 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,720 TERM MAXIMUM IS 25 YEARS THAT 333 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,840 APPLIES TO BOTH AND ESPC AND 334 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,280 THAT MEANS THAT IT INCLUDES 335 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,960 DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TO REACH 336 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:14,800 THAT 25 YEARS AND IN BOTH CASES, 337 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,000 THEY CAN BE COMBINED WITH 338 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:16,800 FINANCING AND THEY'RE 339 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,640 RESPONSIBLE FOR FINANCING FOR 340 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,960 THESE MECHANISMS. 341 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,200 THE CONTRACT ARE FIRM FIXED 342 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,640 PRICE AND YOU CAN BUNDLE SITES 343 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,400 NO ONE CONTRACT BUT IF YOU ARE 344 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,680 DOING A UESC THEY HAVE TO BE IN 345 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,600 THE DISTRIBUTION UTILITY SERVICE 346 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,600 TERRITORY AND O AND M AND REPAIR 347 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,160 AND REPLACEMENT FOR THAT PROJECT 348 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,320 COULD BE INCLUDED. 349 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 SO WITH AN ESPC JUST BACKING UP 350 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,080 A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GIVE AN 351 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:54,600 OVERVIEW, THE PRIME IS ESCO AND 352 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,720 THEY HAVE THE DEFINITE DELIVERY 353 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,600 AND ENABLE WHICH IS FOCUSED MORE 354 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,400 ON SMALL PROJECTS ALTHOUGH IT 355 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,920 DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SMALL 356 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,160 PROJECT AND THE ARMY HAS THEIR 357 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,160 MULTIPLE AWARD TASK ORDER 358 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:09,880 CONTRACT. 359 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,960 FOR UESB IS THE DISTRIBUTION 360 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,760 UTILITY SO THAT THE UTILITY THAT 361 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,920 OWNS FOR ELECTRICITY THEY OWN 362 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,880 THE POLES AND WATERS FOR NATURAL 363 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,600 GAS AND WATER THEY OWN THE 364 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,400 PIPES. 365 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,240 THERE ARE DIFFERING AUTHORITIES 366 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,120 FOR EACH THESE CONTRACTS AND SO 367 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,000 THEY'RE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, 368 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,600 A SAVINGS GUARANTEE IS A 369 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,120 REQUIREMENT AS IS MEASUREMENT 370 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,800 AND VERIFICATION AND SO THE 371 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,360 SAVINGS HAS TO EXCEED PAYMENT IN 372 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,200 EACH YEAR OF THE CONTRACT AND 373 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,200 ANOTHER IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION 374 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,200 IS THE ESCO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 375 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,600 THE MAIN TONNANCE REGARDLESS 376 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,680 WHETHER THE AGENCY PERFORMED THE 377 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,000 O AND M SO THEY'RE STILL 378 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,560 RESPONSIBILITY ULTIMATELY FOR O 379 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,080 AND M BEING DONE PROPERLY. 380 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,080 A PERFORMANCE ASSURANCE PLANS IS 381 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,240 REQUIRED FOR ANNUAL SCORING PER 382 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,720 THE O AND B MEMO AND IT'S 383 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,920 INTENDED ALTHOUGH THERE'S NOT A 384 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,360 STRICT REQUIREMENT THAT SAVINGS 385 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:19,600 EXCEED PAYMENTS OVER THE LIFE OF 386 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,120 THE CONTRACT. 387 00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:22,120 SO, HOW DO YOU PAY FOR 388 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:23,720 DECARBONIZATION AND PERFORMANCE 389 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,480 CONTRACTS? 390 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,200 THERE ARE TERNE ALLOWABLE 391 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,560 SAVINGS AND THERE'S THE GENERAL 392 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,720 ENERGY AND WATER SAVINGS AND SO 393 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,960 EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS AND 394 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,200 PRODUCED USAGE AND PRODUCTIONS 395 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,520 AND THE BAND REDUCTION AND LOAD 396 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,600 SHIFTING ARE JUST SOME OF THE 397 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,160 WAYS TO ACHIEVE COST SAVINGS 398 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,280 FROM YOUR SERVING UTILITY AND 399 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,080 ALSO ALLOWED ARE ENERGY AND 400 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,480 WATER RELATED COST SAVINGS AND 401 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,960 SO PRIMARILY INCLUDES O AND M 402 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,840 CONTRACTS AND SO IN SOME CASES 403 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,200 WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT AN ENERGY 404 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,160 CONSERVATION MEASURE YOU MAY BE 405 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,400 ABLE TO ELIMINATE AN O AND M 406 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,240 CONTRACT OR REDUCE THE COST OF 407 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,200 AN O AND M CONTRACT SO AS LONG 408 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,400 AS THERE'S REAL COST SAVINGS 409 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,800 THAT YOU CAN ALLY TO MAKE 410 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,600 PAYMENTS, FOR THE CONTRACT OVER 411 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,200 TIME, THOSE COULD BE INCLUDED AS 412 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,200 SAVINGS FOR THE CONTRACT AND 413 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,160 THEY MIGHT BE SOME MATERIALS 414 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,600 CONTRACT SAVINGS AS WELL THAT 415 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,640 CAN AB PLIED AND THERE'S A 416 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,000 VOIDED COST. 417 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,520 IF YOU PLANNED TO REPLACE 418 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,680 EQUIPMENT AND YOU HAD 419 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,040 APPROPRIATIONS FOR THAT, THAT 420 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,880 COULD ALSO BE APPLIED TO THE 421 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,160 CONTRACT. 422 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,320 APPROPRIATIONS CAN BE APPLIED 423 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,200 AND THERE ARE GRANTS THAT HAS 424 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,240 THE EFFECT GRANT AND SO STAY 425 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,400 TUNED WE EXPECT AT LEAST ONE OR 426 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,880 NOWHERE GRANT COMING FROM OVER 427 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,600 THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR SO TAKE AND 428 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,600 KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THAT THERE 429 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,800 MIGHT BE OTHER GRANTS SUCH AS 430 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,200 STATE GRANTS THAT YOU COULD 431 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,480 APPLY AS WELL AS OTHER ROW BAITS 432 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,440 AND INCENTIVES. 433 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,000 FOR CFE PROJECTS, CFE PROJECTS 434 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,040 MAY HAVE VALUABLE GRANTS 435 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,680 ESPECIALLY SOLAR PROJECTS AND 436 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,040 THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS ON THE 437 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,520 EAST COAST ESPECIALLY WHERE 438 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,520 THOSE RECS ARE VALUABLE SO IN 439 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,760 SOME CASES IT MAKES SENSE FOR 440 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,000 THE RECS TO BE SOLD AND FOR 441 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,680 CREDIT TOWARDS THE CURRENT 442 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,880 POLICY ACT OF 2005 RENEWABLE 443 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,560 GOAL REPLACEMENT RECS NEED TO BE 444 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,600 PURCHASED IN ORDER TO GET THAT 445 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,040 CREDIT AND THAT IS UNDER THE 446 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,120 CURRENT GUIDANCE AND THAT'S FOR 447 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,720 THE ENERGY POLICY ACT OF 2005 448 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,560 RENEWABLE THAT IS NOT RELATED TO 449 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,600 THE CURRENT EXECUTIVE ORDER 450 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,040 14057 WHERE IMPLEMENTING VEXES 451 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:43,080 ARE PENDING. 452 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,000 SO NOW WE'LL JUMP INTO PRIVATELY 453 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,480 OWNED OPTIONS. 454 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,280 AND THE FIRST IS A POWER 455 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,440 PURCHASE AGREEMENT OR PPA AND 456 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,720 HERE THE FEDERAL AGENCY WILL 457 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,760 HOST A RENEWABLE PROJECT AND 458 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,760 THEY PURCHASE THE ELECTRICITY 459 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,920 FOR THE LIFE OF THE CONTRACT. 460 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,200 THE RENEWABLE DEVELOPER WILL 461 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,520 PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT THEN THEY 462 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,840 INSTALL IT AND THEY OWN THE 463 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,280 PROJECT FOR THE LIFE OF THE 464 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,200 CONTRACT AND THEY DO ALL OF THE 465 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,000 O AND M FOR THE PROJECT AND THE 466 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,800 MAIN BENEFIT OF THE ROW KNEW 467 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,880 ABLE DEVELOPER OWNING THIS 468 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,200 EQUIPMENT IS THAT THEY MAY BE 469 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,360 ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF 470 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:18,720 CERTAIN TAX INCENTIVES THAT HELP 471 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,200 REDUCE THE PPA PRICE FOR THE 472 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,640 FEDERAL SECTOR AND AS I 473 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,120 MENTIONED THE REC IN CERTAIN 474 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,400 AREAS OF THE COUNTRY AND FOR 475 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,400 CERTAIN TYPES OF PROJECTS, 476 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,080 PRIMARILY SOLAR IT'S BENEFICIAL 477 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,840 TO SELL THE S RECS AND THE 478 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,920 AGENCY CAN BUY REPLACEMENT OR 479 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,520 REQUIRE THE CONTRACTOR TO BUY 480 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,200 REPLACEMENT RECs AND GOING 481 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,440 BACK TO THE ESPC, AND WITH 482 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,440 GOVERNMENT OWNED, THE ENERGY 483 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,040 POLICY ACT OF 2020 INCLUDES A 484 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,400 PROVISION THAT EXPLICITLY STATES 485 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,400 THAT REC SALES CAN BE INCLUDED 486 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,600 IN AN ESPC AND THERE HAVE BEEN 487 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,440 PROBLEMS WITH GOVERNMENT-OWNED 488 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,400 SYSTEMS FOR AGENCIES TO ACTUALLY 489 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,880 SELL THE REC THAT'S BEEN 490 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,760 PROBLEMATIC BUT THE ENERGY ACT 491 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,320 OF 2020 TOOK CARE OF THAT 492 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,040 PROBLEM FOR ESPCs BUT THE FACT 493 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,160 THAT PPAs HAVE CHILDREN 494 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:11,560 CHALLENGES. 495 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,120 ONE IS CIVILIAN AGENCY HAVE 496 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,640 LIMITED THE LONG-TERM CONTRACT 497 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,000 OPTIONS AND FOR PPA YOU NEED A 498 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,200 10-YEAR CONTRACT AND MOST AREAS 499 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,800 OF THE COUNTRY YOU WILL PROBABLY 500 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,680 NEED A 20-YEAR CONTRACT AND SO 501 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,840 THAT IS A VARIANT AND I'LL TALK 502 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,280 ABOUT ANOTHER OPTION USED IN A 503 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:28,640 MINUTE. 504 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,520 ANOTHER CONSIDERRIZATION WHETHER 505 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,960 THIS TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT IS 506 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,800 REGAL AND THE STATE AND UTILITY 507 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,000 SERVICE TERRITORY AND IT'S 508 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,920 IMPORTANT TO LOOK INTO THIS UP 509 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,600 FRONT BEFORE YOU GET GOING ON A 510 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,600 PROJECT AND YOU CAN LOOK AT 511 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,400 DESIRED WEBSITE AND SEE THE 512 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,920 HYPER LINK HERE TOWARDS THE 513 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,480 BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN AND THAT 514 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,720 WILL PROVIDE BASIC INFORMATION 515 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,160 FROM MOST OF THE STATE AND YOU 516 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,200 CAN CONFIRM IT WITH YOUR UTILITY 517 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,640 AND REACH OUT TO THEM TO GET 518 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,040 HELP WITH EXPLORING WHETHER THIS 519 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,960 OPTION WILL WORK IN YOUR UTILITY 520 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:01,360 SERVICE TERRITORY. 521 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:02,880 PPAs ARE GENERALLY BETTER FOR 522 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,280 LARGE PROJECTS AT LEAST 50 500 KILL 523 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,320 A OWE WATTS OR MORE AND YOU CAN 524 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,520 AGO RATE IS A NUMBER OF 525 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,680 DIFFERENT SITES TOGETHER TO MAKE 526 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:18,960 A LARGER PROJECT. 527 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,520 SO, HERE PROSECUTE SOME OPTIONS 528 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,880 FOR IMPLEMENTING PP 529 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,480 ANTI-SEMITISM AND COMMERCIAL 530 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,120 ITEMS CAN BE USED AND THAT'S A 531 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:28,800 FAIRLY SHORT TERM CONTRACT AND 532 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,560 IT'S A 10-YEAR CONTRACT 533 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,280 AUTHORITY BUT THAT'S A GSA 534 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,960 AUTHORITY AND SO ANY AGENCY 535 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,160 BESIDES GSA THAT WANTS TO USE 536 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,880 THIS AUTHORITY MUST GET A 537 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,760 DELEGATION FROM GSA AND THEN 538 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,440 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS A 539 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,400 30-YEAR CONTRACT UFC FOR 540 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,640 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SITES 541 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,840 ONLY. 542 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,360 NEXT SLIDE. 543 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:57,840 SO, AS I MENTIONED, CIVILIAN 544 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,200 AGENCY HAVE LIMITED OPTION AND 545 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,520 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS THE 546 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,800 LONG-TERM AUTHORITY BUT FOR 547 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,400 CIVILIAN AGENCIES IN PARTICULAR, 548 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,080 ONE GREAT OPTION TO CONSIDER IS 549 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,040 AN ESPC ENERGY SALES AGREEMENT 550 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,560 OR ESPC A AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO 551 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,120 A PP A AND IT USES THE AUTHORITY 552 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,400 TO IMPLEMENT A PROJECT ON 553 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,040 BUILDINGS OR LAND WERE THE 554 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,200 SYSTEM WOULD BE PRIVATELY OWNED 555 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,480 INITIALLY AND AGAIN THE AGENCY 556 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,440 PURCHASES THE ELECTRICITY. 557 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,960 THEY MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IF 558 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,920 THEY DON'T HAVE A CAPITAL THEY 559 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,200 THINK IT COULD BENEFIT FROM TAX 560 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,000 INCENTIVES AND THEY HAVE A 561 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,120 LIMITED LONG-TERM AUTHORITY AND 562 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,520 THEY WANT THE COST EFFECTIVE 563 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,360 PROJECT AND THE ESPC ESA HAVE 564 00:23:46,360 --> 00:24:01,320 THE REQUIRE FOR A ESPC AND THAT 565 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,320 IT INCLUDES A NEW VIDEO THAT 566 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,600 EXPLAINS ESPC ESAs AND IT'S A 567 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,600 SHORT VIDEO SO CHECK IT OUT AS 568 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,080 WELL AS THE OTHER INFORMATION ON 569 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,360 OUR ESPC ESA PAGE. 570 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,720 SO SOME OF THE BASICS JUST TO 571 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:34,800 HIGHLIGHT THEM AGAIN, THERE ARE 572 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,080 KEY REQUIREMENTS TO CONSIDER AND 573 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,600 ONE IS THE OMB ISSUED A MEMO IN 574 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:46,680 2012 THAT STATES WITH A ON SITE 575 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,760 PROJECT MUST HAVE EQUIPMENT BIT 576 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,040 END OF THE CONTRACT FOR ANNUAL 577 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,640 SCORING SO THAT IS AN IMPORTANT 578 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,960 CONSIDERATION AND THEN THERE'S 579 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,520 ALSO THE TAX INCENTIVE 580 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,160 CONSIDERATION AND IRS DID 581 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,760 PROVIDE A SAFE HARBOR FOR ESPC 582 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,040 ESAs THAT HAS A COUPLE OF 583 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,240 REQUIREMENTS AND ONE OF THEM IS 584 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,480 THE TITLE TRANSFER, AT THE END 585 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,840 OF THE CONTRACT, MUST BE A FAIR 586 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:06,600 MARKET VALUE. 587 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,960 SO THAT IS AN IMPORTANT 588 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,440 CONSIDERATION. 589 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,360 IT'S NOT A FREE TITLE TRANSFER. 590 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:14,080 ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE 591 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,520 REVENUE PROCEDURES IS THAT THE 592 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,400 CONTRACT TERM MUST BE 20 YEARS 593 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:24,160 OR LESS AND SO THAT'S DIFFERENT 594 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,400 THAT LAWS FOR UP TO 25 YEARS SO 595 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,400 THEY'RE LIMITED TO 20 YEARS. 596 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,040 DIFFERENCES FROM A TYPICAL ESPC 597 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,640 IS ONE THE PRICES AND SENSE PER 598 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,000 KILOWATT HOUR. 599 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,200 PAYMENT IS BASED ON THE KILOWATT 600 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,200 HOUR GENERATED FROM THE PROJECT. 601 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,440 IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED INITIALLY 602 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,800 AND THE REMEMBER ESPC TYPICALLY 603 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,640 OWNERSHIP TRANSFER TO THE 604 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,280 GOVERNMENT UPON ACCEPTANCE OF 605 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,800 EACH OF THE ENERGY CONSERVATION 606 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,040 MEASURES. 607 00:25:53,040 --> 00:26:00,440 HERE O AND M IS ALWAYS PROVIDED 608 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,640 BY DEHE IS CO AND IT'S THE 609 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,560 RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DESCO AS I 610 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,000 MENTIONED EARLIER. 611 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,960 BENEFITS, LONG-TERM CONTRACT 612 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,960 MECHANISMS AND THAT IS ONE OF 613 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,400 THE KEY BENEFITS. 614 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,120 THERE'S A STATUTORY ESPC 615 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,520 COST-SAVINGS REQUIREMENT SO THE 616 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,520 ESPC ESA PRICE MUST BE LOWER 617 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,000 THAN YOUR UTILITY COST. 618 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,920 IF YOUR UTILITY COST BLENDED 619 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,080 RATE IS 10 CENTS PER KILOWATT 620 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,200 HOUR THE RATE MUST BE LOWER SO 621 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,880 FOR EXAMPLE IT'S NINE CENTS A 622 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,640 KILOWATT HOUR THE SITE WOULD SAY 623 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,800 ONE CENT A KILOWATT HOUR FOR 624 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,880 EVERY KILOWATT HOUR GENERATED SO 625 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840 THIS ALLOWS SOME SAVINGS TO THE 626 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,880 AGENCY UP FRONT AS SOON AS THE 627 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,400 PROJECT BECOMES OPERATIONAL SO 628 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,880 THAT IS A GREAT. 629 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,640 NO UP FRONT CAPITAL. 630 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,000 JUST LIKE ANY PERFORMANCE 631 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,400 CONTRACT THERE'S NO UP FRONT 632 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,200 CAPITAL REQUIRED IF YOU HAVE PRO 633 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,360 APPROPRIATION TO BUY DOWN THE 634 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:00,880 PROJECT AND IT'S ALLOWABLE ON 635 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,400 YOUR AGENCY POLICY AND COLOR OF 636 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,760 MONEY CONSIDERATIONS IT'S GREAT 637 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:11,840 BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE 638 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,080 CAPITAL. 639 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,400 THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE A 640 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,200 TAX APPETITE AND AS WE MENTIONED 641 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,480 THE RECS CAN BE SOLD TO REDUCE 642 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,600 THE ESBCA PRICE. 643 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,320 FOR ANY LAWYERS AND CONTRACTING 644 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,880 STAFF ON THE WEBINAR, THERE IS A 645 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,480 FAR PART 41 AUTHORITY THAT 646 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,200 AUTHORIZED THE USE FOR THE 647 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,160 ACQUISITION OF UTILITY SERVICES 648 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,200 SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS THAT 649 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,400 THERE'S AN ACTUAL AUTHORITY THAT 650 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,400 EXPLICITLY STATES THAT THIS IS 651 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:40,720 ALLOWED. 652 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,920 NEXT SLIDE. 653 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,000 AND THEN ANOTHER ARRANGEMENT 654 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,400 THAT IS POSSIBLE IS THE REAL 655 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,840 PROPERTY ARRANGEMENT SO HERE THE 656 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,200 AGENCY IS HOSTING A PROJECT 657 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,640 PRIVATELY OWNED AND THIS IS SOLD 658 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,160 EITHER ALL OR MOST AND TO 659 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,120 ANOTHER ENTITY AND THE 660 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,800 GOVERNMENT ISN'T NECESSARILY 661 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,760 USING ANY OF THE ELECTRICITY AND 662 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,400 THIS COULD BE DONE UNDER VARIETY 663 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,200 OF MECHANISM AND SOME HAVE 664 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,480 ANENNANCED USE AND SOME AGENCIES 665 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,920 MIGHT HAVE OR AN EASEMENT OR A 666 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,160 LICENSE. 667 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,440 AND NEXT SLIDE. 668 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,760 SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE 669 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,360 CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU WANT 670 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,720 THINK ABOUT A YOU ARE 671 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,880 IMPLEMENTING A PROJECT AND THE 672 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,000 FIRST ONE WE MENTIONED IF YOU 673 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,480 ARE DOING A PPA OR ESPC ESA YOU 674 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,720 WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CONTRACT 675 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,880 MECHANISM IS LEGAL IN YOUR STATE 676 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,920 AND UTILITY SERVICE TERRITORY 677 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,280 AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST 678 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,800 THINGS TO LOOK INTO IF IT'S 679 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680 STARTING A PROJECT. 680 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,600 THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL 681 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,400 POLICY ACT IS IMPORTANT FOR ON 682 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,800 SITE PROJECT AND THERE'S GOING 683 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,520 TO BE SOME TIME OF NEPA ANALYSIS 684 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,680 THAT WILL BE REQUIRED WHETHER 685 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,640 IT'S AN VINAL ASSESSMENT FOR 686 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,200 LARGE PROJECTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL 687 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,200 IMPACT STATEMENT MIGHT BE 688 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,600 REQUIRED AND THERE ARE SOME 689 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000 INSTANCES WHERE A CATEGORIC ALEX 690 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,240 CONCLUSION WOULD A PLY BUT YOU 691 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,720 NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS 692 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,000 AND TAKE TO YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL 693 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,480 FOLKS AND FIND OUT WHAT THE 694 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,600 REQUIREMENTS ARE AND IT'S BEST 695 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,000 TO GET STARTED ON THIS EARLY IN 696 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,040 THE PROCESS BECAUSE THIS CAN 697 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,600 TAKE SOME TIME ESPECIALLY FOR 698 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,760 THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OR 699 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,400 EIS ARE REQUIRED AND SOME AREAS 700 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,080 ESPECIALLY URBAN AREAS HAVE 701 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,560 IMPORTANT HISTORIC 702 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,840 CONSIDERATIONS WASHINGTON D.C. 703 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,120 HAS STRICT REQUIREMENTS ON ABOUT 704 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,520 WHAT CAN BE DONE TO A BUILDING 705 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,400 AND OTHER SITES MIGHT HAVE 706 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,600 CULTURAL RESOURCE CONSIDERATIONS 707 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,680 AND GLARE IS AN ISSUE IF YOU ARE 708 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,480 NEAR AN AIRPORT AND OTHER UNIQUE 709 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,200 PERMITTING RESTRICTIONS OR 710 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,160 REQUIREMENTS THAT APPLY DEPEND 711 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,200 ONG YOUR SITE SO THAT'S 712 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,000 IMPORTANT TO LOOK INTO. 713 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,200 INTERCONNECTION REQUIREMENTS ARE 714 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,240 VERY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THIS 715 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,400 IS ONE OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS 716 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,160 FOR A PROJECT SO YOU WANT TO 717 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,720 TALK TO YOUR SERVING UTILITY 718 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,120 EARLY AND OFTEN TO MAKE SURE YOU 719 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,680 FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE 720 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,440 REQUIREMENTS WILL BE AND WHAT 721 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920 THE ASSOCIATED COST MIGHT BE AND 722 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,240 HOW MUCH TIME THEY MIGHT ADD TO 723 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,240 YOUR PROJECT ANOTHER ASPECT 724 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,800 RELATED TO INTERCONNECTION IS 725 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,040 THE INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT 726 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,320 WHICH WILL BE REQUIRED FOR 727 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,600 PRIVATELY OWNED SYSTEMS AND YOU 728 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,120 WANT TO ASK THE UTILITY WHO WILL 729 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,760 SIGN THAT AGREEMENT. 730 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,360 IN SOME CASES IT'S THE PRIVATE 731 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,360 OWNER AND OTHER CASES IT'S THE 732 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,000 GOVERNMENT AND I KNOW AT LEAST 733 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,240 ONE INSTANCE WHERE THEY DID A 734 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,880 TRI-PARTY AGREEMENT AND THAT 735 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,520 INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT IS THE 736 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,200 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO SIGN 737 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,440 IT THEY NEED A COP EVE THAT 738 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,080 INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT FROM 739 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,480 THE UTILITY EARLY AND HAVE YOUR 740 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,600 LEGAL AND CONTRACTING STAFF 741 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,800 REVIEW IT AND MAKE SURE THERE 742 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,800 ARE NO ISSUES AND THERE ARE 743 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,200 PROVISIONS IN INTERCONNECTION 744 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,960 AGREEMENT THAT'S CAN BE 745 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,280 PROBLEMATIC FOR A FEDERAL SITE 746 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,400 AND THOSE NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED 747 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,360 EARLY ON AND NEGOTIATED ALSO THE 748 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,800 UTILITY IF THEY'VE NEGOTIATED AN 749 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,400 INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT FROM 750 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,080 ANOTHER FEDERAL AGENCY AND IT'S 751 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,920 NOT ANOTHER FEDERAL AGENCY MAYBE 752 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,560 PERHAPS FOR A STATE OR LOCAL 753 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,760 GOVERNMENT ENTITY OR PERHAPS 754 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 SOME OTHER TYPE OF ENTITY THAT 755 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,400 HAS SOME RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT 756 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,320 TYPE OF PROVISION BE INCLUDED IN 757 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,080 THE AGREEMENTS THAT THEY SIGN. 758 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,800 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAW OWNED 759 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,040 THE LAND THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING 760 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,000 A PROJECT FOR THAT'S IMPORTANT 761 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,800 TO CONFIRM AND PRIVATELY OWNED 762 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800 PROJECTS AND SITE ACCESS IS 763 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,600 REALLY KEY FOR THE LIFE OF THE 764 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,640 CONTRACT AND TYPICALLY THERE'S A 765 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,840 SEPARATE SITE ACCESS AGREEMENT 766 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,120 SO TALK TO YOUR REAL PROPERTY 767 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,960 ABOUT OPTIONS AVAILABLE SO SOME 768 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,680 OTHER CONSIDERATIONS INCLUDE 769 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,680 EROSION CONTROL AND THE OTHER 770 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,560 CONSTRUCTION CONSIDERATION AND 771 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,400 YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU 772 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,160 ARE TALK TO GO ALL THE 773 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,240 APPROPRIATE FOLKS ABOUT WHAT THE 774 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,800 APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS ARE AND 775 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,640 MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD 776 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,400 EARLY IN THE PROCESS SO YOU 777 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,840 DON'T FIND OUT AS YOU ARE 778 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,560 GETTING READY TO ASSIGN A 779 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,360 CONTRACT THAT CERTAIN ENTITIES 780 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,320 THAT HAVE TO IMPROVE THE PROJECT 781 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,040 AREN'T ON BOARD. 782 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,920 SO YOU REALLY WANT TO GET THAT 783 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,120 DONE EARLY IN THE PROCESS AND 784 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,280 MAKE SURE YOU ARE ENGAGING ALL 785 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,000 THE FOLKS THAT NEED TO APPROVE 786 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,800 THE PROJECT. 787 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,520 BUY AMERICAN AND TRADE YOU WANT 788 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,400 TO INCLUDE THE CLAUSE FOR YOUR 789 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,080 PROJECT AND CYBER SECURITY IS 790 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,920 KEY SO YOU WANT TO BRING THEM IN 791 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,880 AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND 792 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,280 THE PROJECT AND HOW IT MIGHT 793 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,920 IMPACT CYBER FOR YOUR SITE. 794 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,200 NEXT SLIDE. 795 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,800 SO, THERE ARE CHALLENGES TO 796 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,240 IMPLEMENTING THIS PROJECT AND 797 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,160 ALSO SOLUTIONS. 798 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,160 SO THE FIRST IS THEY CAN TAKE 799 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880 TIME TO IMPLEMENT AND SO IT'S 800 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,600 IMPORTANT TO COME UP WITH A 801 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,360 TIMELINE SPECIFY A DEADLINE AND 802 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,840 STICK TO THEM AS MUCH AS 803 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,200 POSSIBLE AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL 804 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,600 KEEP YOUR PROJECT MOVING SO YOU 805 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,760 CAN SHORTEN THE MANY NOTTATION 806 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,720 TIMEFRAME AND ALSO IMPORTANT FOR 807 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,560 KEEPING A PROJECT ON TRACK IS IT 808 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,400 TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE BUY IN 809 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400 FROM THE IMPORTANT ENTITIES 810 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,680 EARLY IN THE PROJECT. 811 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,720 YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU 812 00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,920 HAVE AVAILABLE STAFF TO 813 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:03,240 IMPLEMENT AND ESPECIALLY 814 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:03,920 CONTRACTING INFORMATION AND IT'S 815 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,800 ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE 816 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,280 AND UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT AND 817 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:18,320 DO THE REVIEW SO THEY CAN BE 818 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,400 SIGN AND FOR PRIVATE OWNERSHIP 819 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,880 PROJECTS THERE ARE LIMITED 820 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,120 LONG-TERM PRE CUREMENT 821 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,640 AUTHORITIES AND SO CONSIDER 822 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520 OPTIONS SUCH AS AN ESPCSA AND IT 823 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,400 HAS A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION 824 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,120 AND ON THE WEBSITE. 825 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,680 AND THEN IF THE PROJECT IS 826 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,120 PRIVATELY OWNED YOU WANT TO MAKE 827 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,880 SURE IT'S VERY CLEAR WHO WILL 828 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,840 OWN THE RECs THAT IS 829 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,520 EXPLICITLY STATED IN THE 830 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,400 CONTRACT AND DECIDE WHETHER IT 831 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,000 WILL BE THE RECS WILL BE 832 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,760 REGISTERED AND ROW TIRED IN A 833 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,120 TRACKING SYSTEM AND THERE ARE 834 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,160 REC INTERESTING SYSTEMS ACROSS 835 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,280 THE COUNTRY AND THEY CAN BE USED 836 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,160 TO REGISTER AND RETIRE REC AND 837 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,680 KEEP AN EYE ON THE EXECUTIVE 838 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,480 ORDER IMPLEMENTING INSTRUCTIONS 839 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,400 BECAUSE THEY MAY INCLUDE 840 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,040 DETAILED REQUIREMENTS AND 841 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,120 GUIDELINES ANYWAYS ON A WHAT 842 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,280 NEEDS TO BE DONE TO DOCUMENT 843 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:13,560 THAT YOU HAVE THE RECs FOR A 844 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:13,800 PROJECT. 845 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,320 WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO 846 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,520 JENNY. 847 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,040 >> THANK YOU, CHANDRA. 848 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,680 HI, EVERYBODY, I'M AT NATIONAL 849 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,280 RENEWABLE ENERGY LAB AND I'LL 850 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,080 SPEAK TODAY ON OFF SITE 851 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,640 PROCUREMENT OPTIONS AND NEXT 852 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,000 SLIDE. 853 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,760 SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A 854 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,800 SUITE OF OPTIONS THAT ARE 855 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,320 AVAILABLE IN VARYING DEGREES 856 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,000 ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THIS IS 857 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000 OUR HIGH-LEVEL MAPPING OF THE 858 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,560 TYPES OF PROCUREMENT OPTIONS 859 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,160 THAT ARE AVAILABLE BASED ON YOUR 860 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,920 UTILITY MARKET. 861 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,600 SO YOU SEE THAT ON THE LEFT AND 862 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,800 OUR TRADITIONALLY REGULATED 863 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,480 MARKETS. 864 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,920 THESE HAVE VERTICALLY UTILITIES 865 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,200 WHERE IT'S IN CHARGE OF 866 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,840 GENERATION, TRANSMISSION AND 867 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,720 DISTRIBUTION UNDER THAT 868 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,120 STRUCTURE WE HAVE A UTILITY 869 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,240 GREEN PRICING PROGRAM AND 870 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,520 UTILITY GREEN TARIFF PROGRAM. 871 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,360 AND ON THE FAR-RIGHT, WE HAVE 872 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,800 OUR COMPETITIVE MARKETS OR YOU 873 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,560 MAY HEAR OF THEM AS RETAIL 874 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,080 CHOICE MARKETS AND THESE ARE 875 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,880 ONCONES WHERE CUSTOMERS CAN CHOSE 876 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,840 THEIR SUPPLIER AND THEIR SUPPLY 877 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,200 OPTION. 878 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,000 SO WE HAVE COMPETITIVE SUPPLIERS 879 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,000 OPERATING IN THAT MARKET AND IT 880 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,240 CAN OFFER OFF SITE CLEAN ENERGY 881 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:27,120 AND WE'VE GOT A HANDFUL OPTIONS 882 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,160 ARE JUST SHORT OF A HANDFUL OF 883 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,720 OPTION AND BOTH MARKETS SO THESE 884 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,840 ARE AGGREGATION, COMMUNITY 885 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,000 SOLAR, OFF SITE PPAs AND 886 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,440 UNBUNDLED RECs. 887 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,560 IF THESE TERMS ARE ALL NEW TO 888 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,160 YOU, IT'S FINE AND WE'LL WALK 889 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,400 THROUGH EACH OF THESE OPTIONS. 890 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:50,080 OVER THE NEXT PART OF THIS 891 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,320 SESSION. 892 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,640 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 893 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,600 ELECTRICITY MARKET STATUS, BY 894 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,200 STATE, THIS IS A GENERAL 895 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,000 FRAMEWORK FOR STATES SO YOU CAN 896 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,960 SAY, I'M IN COLORADO THIS IS A 897 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,480 TRADITIONALLY REGULATED MARKET 898 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,160 IT MEANS I DON'T GET TO GO OUT 899 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,920 AND CHOSE MY SUPPLIER I NEED TO 900 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,720 WORK WITH MY UTILITY TO FIND OUT 901 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:12,160 WHAT OPTIONS THEY HAVE 902 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,520 AVAILABLE. 903 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,040 IF YOU ARE IN A LIGHT BLUE STATE 904 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,680 LIKE ILLINOIS, IT'S A 905 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,040 COMPETITIVE MARKET STATE WHERE 906 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,400 YOU THWHEREYOU HAVE YOUR ABILITY TO WORK 907 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,600 WITH YOUR SUPPLY TORE FIGURE OUT 908 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,200 AN OPTION THAT PROVIDES CLEAN 909 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,640 ENERGY. 910 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,120 SOME OF THE STATES IN GRAY THERE 911 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,240 ARE SELECTIVELY DEREGULATED SO 912 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,600 SOME LARGE CUSTOMERS MAY HAVE 913 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,600 THE OPTION TO CHOSE THEIR 914 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,280 SUPPLIER BUT IN GENERAL, THERE'S 915 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,800 NOT A LOT OF SUPPLY HAPPENING. 916 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,680 JUST A NOTE HERE THAT EVEN IN 917 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,520 OUR COMPETITIVE MARKET STATES, 918 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,200 THOSE LIGHT BLUE STATES, THERE 919 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,040 ARE SOME UTILITIES WHO ARE STILL 920 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,400 TRADITIONALLY REGULATED IN 921 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,000 PARTICULAR MUNICIPAL UTILITIES, 922 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,880 CO-OPERATIVE UTILITIES STILL ARE 923 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,880 TRADITIONALLY REGULATED. 924 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,320 WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH EACH 925 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,880 OPTION AVAILABLE ACROSS THE 926 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,320 COUNTRY AND VARYING DEGREES. 927 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,000 BEFORE I GO INTO THESE I WANT TO 928 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,760 NOTE THAT ALL OF THESE OPTIONS 929 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,280 ARE NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE IN 930 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,400 THE SAME PLACE SO IT'S IMPORTANT 931 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,800 FOR SITES TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS 932 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,960 THE MARKET STRUCTURE THAT 933 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:32,560 THEY'RE OPERATEIN OPERATEING OPERATEING AN D DO 934 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:51,560 CREANING THEY'RE SELLING RECs 935 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,000 TO UTILITY AND THE CUSTOMER AND 936 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,400 THE CUSTOMER IS PAYING THE 937 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,640 UTILITY FOR THOSE RECs. 938 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,280 AND THAT PAYMENT IS DONE THROUGH 939 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,400 AN ADDITIONAL LINE ITEM ON THE 940 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,240 UTILITY BILL AND PRICING 941 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:05,200 GENERALLY IS AROUNDS ONE TO TWO 942 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,640 CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR EXTRA AND 943 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,840 IN ADDITION TO YOUR REGULAR 944 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,160 UTILITY CHARGES. 945 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,600 THESE OPTIONS ARE PRETTY 946 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,760 AVAILABLE THROUGH UTILITIES 947 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,320 ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WE DO 948 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,920 MAINTAIN A LIST OF AVAILABLE 949 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,000 OPTIONS AND YOU CAN ALSO JUST 950 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,680 SEARCH YOUR UTILITY TO SEE IF 951 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,600 THEY OFFER A PRODUCT. 952 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,840 NEXT SLIDE. 953 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,640 THE SECOND ONE IS UTILITY 954 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,360 RENEWABLE CONTRACTS. 955 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,680 YOU MAY HEAR THE TERM GROWN GREEN 956 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:37,920 TARIFFS. 957 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,600 IT'S CONFUSING TO UNDERSTAND 958 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520 BETWEEN A GROWN PRICING PRODUCT 959 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,800 AND TARIFF. 960 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,360 THE KEY DISTINCTION IS REALLY 961 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,440 THE UTILITY IN THIS CASE IS 962 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,760 SERVING AS A PASS THROUGH OF AN 963 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,000 AGREEMENT BETWEEN A GENERATOR 964 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,240 AND A CUSTOMER. 965 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,120 SO IN THIS CARRYING YOU SEE THE 966 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,480 GENERATOR ENTERING INTO A 967 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,680 CONTRACT WITH THE UTILITY FOR 968 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,440 BOTH THE ELECTRICITY AND THE 969 00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:59,760 RECs. 970 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,160 AND THEN THE UTILITY IS 971 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,200 PROVIDING BOTH AN ELECTRICITY 972 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200 AND A REC OPTION TO THE 973 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:06,600 CUSTOMER. 974 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,720 AND IN THIS CASE YOU ARE NOT 975 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,400 JUST PAGAN ADDER LIKE AN EXTRA 976 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,800 ONE TO TWO CENTS PER KILOWATT 977 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,520 HOUR FOR THE PRODUCT LIKE A 978 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,800 GREEN PRICING PROGRAM, YOU ARE 979 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,200 PAYING THE COST OF THE 980 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,200 GENERATION FROM THE RENEWABLE 981 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,640 SOURCE AND NOT PAYING COST OF MY 982 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,800 FOSSIL GENERATION THAT THE 983 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,680 UTILITY MAY BE SUPPLYING TO 984 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,400 OTHER CUSTOMERS. 985 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,600 SO COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION 986 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,280 IS A STRUCTURE AVAILABLE IN 987 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,680 ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE STATES WHERE 988 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,600 THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS IN 989 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,200 CHARGE OF THE SUPPLY OPTIONS FOR 990 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,000 RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND 991 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,760 USUALLY SMALL COMMERCIAL 992 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,720 CUSTOMERS IN THEIR JURISDICTION. 993 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,280 IT'S A WAY FOR THE LOCAL 994 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,600 GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT 995 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,000 TYPES OF OPTIONS THAN THE 996 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,560 INVESTOR-OWNED UTILITY SO IN 997 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,920 THIS CASE WE SEE AGGREGATION OF 998 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,000 THE CUSTOMERS AND THEN THERE IS 999 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,320 A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY WHO IS 1000 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,840 SOURCING CLEAN ENERGY FOR THOSE 1001 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,800 CUSTOMERS. 1002 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,200 THESE OPTIONS ARE REALLY JUST 1003 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,040 LIKE A COMPETITIVE SUPPLIER 1004 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,240 OPTION THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT 1005 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,320 LATER AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU 1006 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,520 WOULD TELL YOUR CCA THAT YOU 1007 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,160 WANTED TO KITCHEN TO THIS OPTION 1008 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,000 AND THEN YOU WILL RECEIVE A 1009 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,800 DIFFERENT BILL BASED ON THAT NEW 1010 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,760 OPTION. 1011 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,440 NEXT SLIDE. 1012 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,840 COMMUNITY SOLAR IS A STRUCTURE 1013 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,480 THAT ALLOWS CUSTOMERS WHO CAN'T 1014 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,640 PUT SOLAR ON THEIR ROF OR DON'T 1015 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,200 HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR ALL THE 1016 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,320 SOLAR THEY WANT ON THEIR ROOF, 1017 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,840 TO SOURCE FROM AN OFF SITE SOLAR 1018 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,120 PROJECT. 1019 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,840 THE EASIEST WAY I THINK ABOUT 1020 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,840 THIS IS THAT YOU HAVE A LARGE 1021 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,040 PROJECT LOCATED USUALLY IN THE 1022 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,800 SAME UTILITY SERVICE TERRITORY 1023 00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,920 AS THE CUSTOMER. 1024 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,160 CUSTOMERS WILL BUY A SHARE OR 1025 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,400 LEASE A SHARE OF THAT PROJECT 1026 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,440 AND THEN THEY WILL GET A BILL 1027 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,120 CREDIT ON THEIR BILL FOR THE 1028 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,640 UTILITY FOR THE GENERATION THAT 1029 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,800 THEIR SHARE PRODUCED. 1030 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,720 SO VERY SIMILAR TO HOW ROOFTOP 1031 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,600 PV CAN WORK IN TERMS OF BILLING 1032 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,200 AND PAYMENT STRUCTURES BUT 1033 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,040 INSTEAD OF HAVING IT ON YOUR 1034 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,760 ROOF, YOU ARE PURCHASE 1035 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,000 INTERESTING THIS OFF SITE 1036 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:29,360 PROJECT. 1037 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,200 IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN 1038 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,880 SOME STATES THE RECs ARE NOT 1039 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,640 CONVEYED TO THE CUSTOMER OR 1040 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,160 THERE MAY BE AN OPTION TO 1041 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:45,480 INCLUDE THE RECs OR NOT. 1042 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,400 WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OFF 1043 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,520 SITE POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENTS. 1044 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,600 SO CHANDRA TALKED ABOUT ON-SITE 1045 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,360 POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENTS. 1046 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,720 OFF-SITE HAVE THE SAME GENERAL 1047 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,560 FRAMEWORK AND THAT YOU ARE 1048 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,840 BUYING UNDER A LONG-TERM 1049 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:06,000 CONTRACT AND YOU ARE AGREEING TO 1050 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,200 PAY A NEGOTIATED RATE THROUGHOUT 1051 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,200 THAT CONTRACT. 1052 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,840 YOU ARE PAYING THOUGH FOR 1053 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,360 GENERATION THAT IS LOCATED 1054 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,920 OFF-SITE AND YOU ARE STILL 1055 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,280 HAVING A UTILITY RESPONSIBLE FOR 1056 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,600 THE TRANSMISSION AND 1057 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,240 DISTRIBUTION OF THAT OFF SITE 1058 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:24,200 RENEWABLE ENERGY OR CLEAN 1059 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,400 ENERGY. 1060 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,240 PPAs, YOU MAY SEE THE RECs 1061 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,600 CONVEYED TO THE CUSTOMER OR YOU 1062 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,400 MAY NOT. 1063 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,880 IT DEPENDS ON THE MARKET AND THE 1064 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,920 GOALS OF THE CUSTOMERS. 1065 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,160 THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 1066 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:40,760 THESE ARE TYPICALLY LARGER 1067 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,560 PURCHASING QUANTITIES SO 1068 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,200 UNDERSTANDING THE WEATHER AND 1069 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:50,200 UNDERSTANDING THE RECs CAN BE 1070 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,600 IMPORTANT. 1071 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,800 WE HAVE UNBUNDLED RECs. 1072 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,440 THEY'RE RECs PURCHASED 1073 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,240 SEPARATELY FROM YOUR ELECTRICITY 1074 00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:00,680 SUPPLY THAT GIVES PURCHASERS A 1075 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,320 LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND 1076 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,280 IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF 1077 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,800 RESOURCES THAT THEY'RE SOURCING 1078 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,840 FROM AND THEY CAN BE LOCATED 1079 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,960 OUTSIDE OF THE CUSTOMERS' 1080 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,040 UTILITY SERVICE TERRITORY AND 1081 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,600 IT'S LIKE THAT. 1082 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,960 SO, UNDER THE STRUCTURE YOU ARE 1083 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,440 JUST BUYING THE ATTRIBUTES NOT 1084 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:24,400 BUYING ANYTHING REALLY TO POWER 1085 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:24,760 OR ELECTRICITY. 1086 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:33,480 THAT GENERATOR WILL SELL TO 1087 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,640 UTILITY AND SELL SEPARATELY TO 1088 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,200 THE CUSTOMER. 1089 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,880 REC OPTIONS ARE ALWAYS A PRICE 1090 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,520 SOUL ALWAYS BE PAYING MORE JUST 1091 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,520 LIKE OUR GREEN PRICING PROGRAMS. 1092 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,680 NEXT SLIDE. 1093 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,360 THE LAST OPTION I WANTED TO TALK 1094 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,040 ABOUT IS COMPETITIVE ELECTRIC 1095 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,600 SUPPLY THIS IS AN OPTION VEIL 1096 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,320 NATIONAL OUR RESTRUCTURED 1097 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,360 ELECTRICITY MARKETS WHERE 1098 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,560 CUSTOMERS CAN CHOSE THEIR 1099 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,120 SUPPLIER AND MOST SUPPLIERS DO 1100 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,640 HAVE SOME TYPE OF ROW KNEW ABLE 1101 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,320 ENERGY OR CLEAN ENERGY OPTION 1102 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,720 AND IN THAT CASE THE CUSTOMERS 1103 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,240 IS SWITCHING OVER TO THE 1104 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:16,520 DIFFERENT COMPETITIVE SUPPLIER 1105 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,640 OPTION AND THESE OPTIONS VARY BY 1106 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,080 THE COMPETITIVE SUPPLIER AND 1107 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,440 THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT PRICING 1108 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,360 STRUCTURES AND IT MAY BE MORE OR 1109 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,600 LESS THAN THE DEFAULT SUPPLY 1110 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,760 DEPENDING ON THE RESOURCES 1111 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,200 AVAILABLE AND THAT REGION AND 1112 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,600 OTHER FACTORS. 1113 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,720 AND FOR FEDERAL ELECTRIC 1114 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:39,640 COMPETITIVE ELECTRIC SUPPLIER 1115 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,400 OPTIONS, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU 1116 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,080 TO CONTACT THE GENERAL SERVICES 1117 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,640 ADMINISTRATION OR DLA ENERGY FOR 1118 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,480 ASSISTANCE AND THEY HAVE A LONG 1119 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,480 HISTORY OF FACILITATING THESE 1120 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,640 TRANCATIONS AND DOING THAT 1121 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,880 COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT ON 1122 00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:08,560 BEHALF OF FEDERAL AGENCIES. 1123 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,080 WE'LL CLOSE OUT WITH COMPARISON 1124 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,280 OF THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. 1125 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,440 THIS IS DATA THAT IS COLLECTED 1126 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:20,320 TO UNDERSTAND ANNUALLY HOW THESE 1127 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,280 PURCHASING OPTIONS GROWING AND 1128 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,760 HOW DO SALES COMPARE TO 1129 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,400 CUSTOMERS PURCHASING THESE 1130 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,920 OPTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO, 1131 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,560 ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, YOU SEE 1132 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,320 SALES THROUGH OUR DIFFERENT 1133 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,600 SUPPLY OPTIONS AND YOU WILL SEE 1134 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,960 THAT THE DARK BLUE IS UNBUNDLED 1135 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,800 RECS SO IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A 1136 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,960 LARGE CHUNK OF THE MARKET AND IT 1137 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,320 IS DECLINING IN TERMS OF ITS 1138 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,600 MARKET SHARE AS WE HAVE SEEN 1139 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,280 OTHER OPTIONS LIKE POWER 1140 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,960 PROCEDURE AGREEMENTS GROW AND IN 1141 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,440 TERMS OF THE SALES THAT THEY ARE 1142 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,000 PROVIDING TO CUSTOMERS. 1143 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,800 WHEN WE LOOK AT CUSTOMER COUNTS, 1144 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,160 WE SEE THAT OUR COMMUNITY CHOICE 1145 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,960 AGGREGATION CUSTOMERS REALLY 1146 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,160 DOMINATE HERE AND THAT IS 1147 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,800 LARGELY BUZZ IT'S A VIABLE 1148 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,920 OPTION FOR RESIDENTIAL AND WE 1149 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,000 DON'T SEE THE GREAT AMOUNT OF 1150 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,000 CHANGELESS THROUGH CHOICE 1151 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,520 AGGREGATION BUT THE CUSTOMER 1152 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,800 ACCOUNTS ARE HIGH AND IT'S 1153 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,800 DOMINATED IN A FEW STATES LIKE 1154 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,880 CALIFORNIA, ILLINOIS AND MASS 1155 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,920 PASS GENERALLY AND WE'LL GO 1156 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,320 AHEAD AND MOVE ONTO THE LAST 1157 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,520 SLIDE. 1158 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,800 SO, AS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL 1159 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,760 THE OF THE OPTIONS YOU MAY BE 1160 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,520 THINKING HOW DO THEY KNOW TO USE 1161 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,880 AND WHICH ONE IS BETTER AND 1162 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,680 DIFFERENT CONSIDERATION AND KEY 1163 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,880 CHARACTERISTICS AND I'M NOT 1164 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,800 GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE WHOLE 1165 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,480 CHART AND SOME OF THE THINGS 1166 00:46:45,480 --> 00:47:06,960 REALLY RELEVANT AND SO THAT'S 1167 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,480 ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT. 1168 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,040 RELATED TO THAT IS PRICE 1169 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,520 STABILITY SO UNDER SOME 1170 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,000 PRODUCTS, YOU ARE PAYING THE 1171 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,320 SAME AMOUNT EVERY MONTH AND 1172 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,560 OTHER PRODUCTS YOU MAY BE PAGAN 1173 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,960 ESCALATED AMOUNT EVERY YEAR AND 1174 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,080 OTHER PRODUCTS MIGHT BE TIED TO 1175 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:41,880 MARGARET BASED RATES. 1176 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,400 SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY CHOICE 1177 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,800 OPTION AND THEY'RE USUALLY 1178 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,400 SHORTER TERM PRODUCTS SO MONTH 1179 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,080 TO MONTH AND EASY IN AND EASY 1180 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440 OUT AND GENERALLY SHORTER 1181 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,440 CONTRACT LENGTHS AND OUR OPTIONS 1182 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,800 LIKE GROWN TARIFFS, WHOLESALE 1183 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,440 CONTRACT AND COMMUNITY SOLAR AND 1184 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,080 LONGER TERM AGREEMENT ZOOS 10 TO 1185 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,480 20 YEARS AND A FOURTH THING IS 1186 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:21,960 JUST EASE OF PARTICIPATION. 1187 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,160 OTHER PRODUCTS WILL TAKE A LONG 1188 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,680 TIME TO DEVELOP AND MAY REQUIRE 1189 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,920 ISSUING AN RFP OR YOU MAY NEED 1190 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,840 TO WORK THROUGH GSA OR DLA 1191 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,000 ENERGY AND THE LASTLY THESE 1192 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,480 OPTIONS VARY IN TERMS OF THE 1193 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,000 CHOICE OF RENEWABLE ENERGY 1194 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,280 RESOURCES AND SO IF IT'S 1195 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,960 IMPORTANT FOR THE AGENCY TO 1196 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,240 SOURCE FROM A PARTICULAR 1197 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:49,880 RESOURCE TYPE A REGION AND 1198 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,520 THERE'S DIFFERENT FLEXIBILITY 1199 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,440 AND THE DIFFERENT OPTION 1200 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,920 AVAILABLE GENERALLY WE SEE THAT 1201 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,160 FOR PRICEING AND CCAs AND 1202 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,240 THERE'S THE SUPPLIERS AND CHARGE 1203 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,120 OF DETERMINING THE RESOURCE AND 1204 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,600 PEOPLE COULD SIGN UP OR NOT. 1205 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,400 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A GROWN GREEN 1206 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,360 TARIFF, COMPETITOR SUPPLY ERROR 1207 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,200 WHOLESALE LIKE A PPA THE AGENCY 1208 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,080 MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME 1209 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,840 PREFERENCE THERE IN TERMS OF 1210 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,400 WHAT RESOURCES ARE USED. 1211 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,800 SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN TO THE 1212 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,480 NEXT SLIDE. 1213 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,760 WE WILL MOVE ON TO DOUG GAGNE. 1214 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,160 THANK YOU. 1215 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440 >> ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME OK? 1216 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,200 >> YES, WE CAN. 1217 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,680 >> GREAT. 1218 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,040 SO, THANK YOU, JENNY. 1219 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,040 YEAH THAT, WILL INCLUDE WITH 1220 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,520 SOME DISCUSSION OF 1221 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,680 DECARBONIZATION PROCUREMENT 1222 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,120 CONSIDERATION THAT'S COULD APPLY 1223 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,800 ACROSS MANY OF THE OPTIONS THAT 1224 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:58,400 WE'VE COVERED TODAY. 1225 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,120 SO, I'M JUST GOING TO START OFF 1226 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,080 WITH THESE BROAD CONSIDERATIONS. 1227 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,600 FIRST, ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS 1228 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,000 ALWAYS A GOOD INITIAL STEP FOR 1229 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,960 MOST OF THESE DECARBONIZATION 1230 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,600 STRATEGIES, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO 1231 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,000 REDUCE YOUR ELECTRICITY 1232 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,320 CONSUMPTION FIRST AND REDUCE THE 1233 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,120 TOTAL NUMBER OF KILOWATT HOURS 1234 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,240 OF CARBON POLLUTION FREE 1235 00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,280 ELECTRICITY THAT YOU WILL NEED 1236 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,200 TO PROCURE LOWER THAT TOTAL 1237 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,720 AMOUNT FIRST AND YOU DON'T HAVE 1238 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,400 TO PROCURE AS MUCH IN THE 1239 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,000 FUTURE. 1240 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000 ALSO, SOME CONSIDERATIONS ARE 1241 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,600 COST SAVINGS AND PRICE 1242 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,200 STABILITY, AND CONTRACT LENGTH 1243 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:45,200 AND PROCURE PURSUE MORE 1244 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:51,280 AGGRESSIVE AND IT MAY BE OBTAIN 1245 00:50:51,280 --> 00:51:01,760 COST SAVINGS STIPULATING A WHOLE 1246 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,160 RATE IN YOUR OFF-SITE PPA FOR 1247 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:04,400 EXAMPLE. 1248 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,360 AS YOU ENTER INTO COMPETITIVE 1249 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,400 SUPPLY AGREEMENT, CONSIDER THE 1250 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,000 TERM LENGTH OF THOSE AGREEMENTS 1251 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,840 AS WELL AS WITH THOSE EXISTING 1252 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,560 AGREEMENTS THAT ARE EXPIRING AND 1253 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,200 WHETHER THAT GENERATION MIX MAY 1254 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:20,120 BE A LIABILITY IN THE FUTURE P 1255 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,440 FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE LOCKED 1256 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,000 INTO A THREE-YEAR SUPPLY 1257 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,000 CONTRACT WITH GRID MIX 1258 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,440 ELECTRICITY FOR A LARGE PORTION 1259 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,080 OF YOUR DEEDS, WILL YOU BE ABLE 1260 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,960 TO MEET YOUR INTERIM CARBON 1261 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,280 POLLUTION FREE ELECTRICITY 1262 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:34,680 TARGETS. 1263 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,200 CONSIDER THE 14057 GOALS FOR 50% 1264 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,400 OF THAT CONSUMPTION TO BE 1265 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,800 MATCHED UP WITH YOUR SITE LOAD 1266 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,120 OR 24/7. 1267 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,080 THIS COULD BE CONSIDERED BY 1268 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,600 TRYING TO PROCURE A DIVERSITY OF 1269 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,440 DIFFERENT TYPES OF GENERATION 1270 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,760 RESOURCES FOR EXAMPLE AND SO, IF 1271 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,360 YOU ONLY PROCURED SOLAR, TO MAKE 1272 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,760 INCREMENTAL PROGRESS TOWARDS 1273 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:07,560 THAT 100% CFE GOAL, IT MAY NOT 1274 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,120 MATCH UP WITH NIGHTTIME 1275 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,080 CONSUMPTION AND BETTER OPTIONS 1276 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,200 COULD BE PROCURING A MIX OF 1277 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,960 RESOURCES LIKE SOLAR TO MATCH UP 1278 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,800 WITH YOUR DAYTIME CONSUMPTION 1279 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,200 AND WIND TO MATCH UP WITH YOUR 1280 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,600 NIGHTTIME CONSUMPTION OR IF YOU 1281 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,200 ARE A BROAD UTILITY MARKET, 1282 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,200 MAYBE YOU ARE PROCURING 1283 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,760 RESOURCES FROM DIFFERENT AREAS. 1284 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,880 THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO 1285 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,400 POTENTIALLY START THINKING ABOUT 1286 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,240 SOME OF THOSE MATCHING GOALS. 1287 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,600 IF YOU HAVE ELECTRICITY MARKETS 1288 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,160 AND WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT 1289 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,760 YOU REACH TOUT GSA AND DLA 1290 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,520 ENERGY AS JENNY MENTIONED. 1291 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,920 WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR 1292 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,160 AGENCY. 1293 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,880 FOR ASSISTANCE WITH CFE 1294 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,200 PURCHASES IN COMPETITIVE 1295 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:57,440 MARKETS. 1296 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,240 YOU CAN TAP INTO THEIR 1297 00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:04,040 CONSIDERABLE EXPERTISE AND 1298 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,160 MANAGING THESE COMPETITIVE 1299 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,280 SOLICITATION AND INCORPORATE 1300 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,040 YOUR OBJECTIVES INTO THE 1301 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,600 PROCUREMENT FOR CARBON 1302 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,200 POLLUTION-FREE ELECTRICITY. 1303 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,240 YOU MAY BE ABLE TO AGO AGREE 1304 00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:16,800 GATE NUR NEEDS TO ACHIEVE 1305 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,280 GREATER ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND 1306 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,760 HOPEFULLY A BETTER RESULTING AND 1307 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,000 LOWER ENERGY PRICE FROM THAT 1308 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,520 PROCUREMENT AS WELL. 1309 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,240 FOURTH, FIRST SITES AND 1310 00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:31,200 REGULATED UTILITY MARKETS, YOUR 1311 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,280 OPTIONS ARE REALLY GOING TO 1312 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,800 DEPEND ON YOUR SERVING UTILITIES 1313 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,200 OFFERINGS. 1314 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,400 SOME UTILITIES MAY NOT OFFER CFE 1315 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,160 OPTIONS IN WHICH CASE YOU CAN 1316 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,000 POTENTIALLY DISCUSS NEW 1317 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,040 OFFERINGS OR COORDINATE WITH 1318 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,400 OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES TO MAKE A 1319 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,360 BIGGER ASKED TO THAT UTILITY AND 1320 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,720 ASK FOR THESE OF SOME CARBON 1321 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:55,280 POLLUTION FREE OPTIONS. 1322 00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:02,600 I NOTED THE FIFTH ONE AROUND 24/ 1323 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:08,200 24/7 GOALS AND LASTLY WHO OWNS 1324 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,960 THE RECs FROM YOUR OFF SITE 1325 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:10,400 PURCHASE. 1326 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,240 THIS ISN'T ALWAYS CLEARLY 1327 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:14,560 STATED, SO MAKING SURE THAT THE 1328 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,800 OWNERSHIP OF THOSE RECs AND 1329 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,720 HOW THOSE RECs WILL BE TRACKED 1330 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:23,400 AND RETIRED ARE REALLY IMPORTANT 1331 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,840 FOR MEETING FEDERAL REPORTING 1332 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,520 REQUIREMENTS. 1333 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,480 SO, ONE GOOD RESOURCE FOR 1334 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,800 DECARBONIZATION PLANNING EFFORTS 1335 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,600 IS THE EMISSIONS AND GENERATION 1336 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,280 RESOURCE INTEGRATED DATABASE. 1337 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,560 THIS INCLUDES EMISSION RATES AND 1338 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,320 RESOURCE MIX BY REGION. 1339 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,120 YOU CAN USE THIS TOOL TO 1340 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,440 APPROXIMATE EIGHT THE CARBON 1341 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,560 INTENSITY AND RESOURCE MIX OF 1342 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,440 VARIOUS SITES IN YOUR AGENCIES' 1343 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:48,720 PORTFOLIO. 1344 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,400 THIS COULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW 1345 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,880 FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE SITES 1346 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,400 FOR EXAMPLE IN CALIFORNIA AND 1347 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,200 WYOMING, YOU MAY FIND THAT THAT 1348 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,160 CFE PROJECT WILL HAVE A GREATER 1349 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,200 IMPACT IN WYOMING WHERE THERE'S 1350 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,040 A HIGH CARBON INTENSITY COMPARED 1351 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,040 TO CALIFORNIA WHERE YOUR PROJECT 1352 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,200 MAY BE OFFSETTING THE GENERATING 1353 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,480 FROM EXISTING LOW CARBON ASSETS 1354 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:18,200 LIKE SOLAR PV DURING PEAK 1355 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:24,680 MID-DAY HOURS. 1356 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,000 TO ELABORATE ON THE 24/7 CARBON 1357 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,280 POLLUTION FREE ELECTRICITY 1358 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,480 CONSIDERATIONS, AS CONSIDER THIS 1359 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,240 GRID MIX AND BEGIN FORMULATING 1360 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:46,920 STRATEGIES FOR MATCHING YOUR AS 1361 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,000 ALWAYS, AGAIN, I'LL CONSIDER YOU 1362 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,520 TO SAY THAT MATCHING THE HOURS 1363 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,520 IS A GREAT FIRST STEP AND WHERE 1364 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,160 COST EFFECTIVE, ADDING ON SITE 1365 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,320 GENERATION AND STORAGE IS 1366 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,360 ANOTHER WAY TO ENSURE THESE LOW 1367 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,760 CARBON RESOURCES ARE MATCHED UP 1368 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,600 TO YOUR LOAD SINCE THESE ASSETS 1369 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,880 ARE ON SITE YOU ACTUALLY SERVING 1370 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,400 YOUR LOAD ON A ONE FOR ONE BASIS 1371 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,200 AND THAT STORAGE TO BE USED TO 1372 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,760 OVER SIZE THE PV ON YOUR SITE TO 1373 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,560 ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL MATCHING OF 1374 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,320 THOSE KILOWATT HOURS TO LATER 1375 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,120 TIMES OF THE DAY WHEN MAYBE THE 1376 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:31,800 SUN ISN'T SHINING AS MUCH. 1377 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,200 NEXT MAKING OPERATIONAL CHANGES 1378 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,880 TO SHIFT YOUR DEMAND FROM 1379 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,320 PERIODS OF HIGH GRID EMISSIONS 1380 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:44,520 TO THOSE WITH LOWRY MISSIONS. 1381 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,080 IF YOU CAN MOVE YOUR COOLING 1382 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,120 LOADS EARLIER IN THE DAY TO 1383 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,600 MATCH UP WITH SOLAR PENETRATION 1384 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,880 AND HIGHER SOLAR AND THAT IS 1385 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,440 ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU COULD KIND 1386 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,560 OF GET FREE CFE MOVING YOUR 1387 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,480 CONSUMPTION AROUND. 1388 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:06,680 FINALLY, AS I NOTED BEFORE, 1389 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,120 PROCURING THESE RESOURCE 0 A 1390 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,400 DIVERSE SET OF GENERATION TYPES 1391 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,880 CAN ALLOW FOR A BETTER 1392 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,720 AROUND-THE-CLOCK MATCHING OF 1393 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:13,520 YOUR LOAD AS WELL. 1394 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,240 WE'RE SEEING THAT COMMONLY AMONG 1395 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,600 DIFFERENT PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT 1396 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:25,440 ARE TRYING TO MEET THESE 24/7 1397 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,920 GOALS. 1398 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,920 SOME SITES HAVE HOURLY INTERVAL 1399 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,640 DATA BUT OTHER SITES MAY NOT. 1400 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,400 ESPECIALLY SMALLER SITES. 1401 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,640 GATHERING AND UNDERSTANDING YOUR 1402 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,000 HOURLY LOAD IS GOING TO BE A KEY 1403 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,520 FIRST STEP IN ADDRESSING THESE 1404 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,200 24/7 GOALS. 1405 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,040 ANOTHER RESOURCE IS LOOKING TO 1406 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,560 YOUR COMPETITIVE CONTRACTS FOR 1407 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,240 SITES IN THOSE REGIONS AS A GOOD 1408 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,640 SOURCE OF INFORMATION. 1409 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,360 EXISTING CONTRACTS MAY CONTAIN 1410 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,840 HOURLY SUPPLY REQUIREMENTS AND 1411 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,200 THIS COULD BE STIPULATED IN 1412 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:04,680 FUTURE CONTRACTS AS WELL. 1413 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,760 ANOTHER VALUABLE TOOL IS THE 1414 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,480 DATA SET AND IT CONTAINS HOURLY 1415 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,520 EMISSIONS, COSTS AND DATA FOR 1416 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,800 THE ELECTRIC SECTOR. 1417 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,280 THIS TOOL CAN BE USED TO BETTER 1418 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,280 UNDERSTAND THE HOURLY EMISSION 1419 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,840 REDUCTIONS FROM CFE PROJECTS 1420 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,800 OVER TIME, AND IT WILL CALCULATE 1421 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,360 A LONG-RUN MARGINAL EMISSIONS 1422 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,120 RATE BASED ON THE INPUT HERE. 1423 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,280 THIS COULD BE EXPLORED ANNUALLY 1424 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,840 OR HOURLY AS SHOWN IN THOSE 1425 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,560 COLORED BOXES THERE AND GIVES 1426 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,600 MULTIPLE SCENARIOS ABOUT HOW THE 1427 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,800 GRID WILL EVOLVE OVER TIME. 1428 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,400 THIS IS A POWERFUL TOOL FOR 1429 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,760 ANSWERING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS 1430 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,560 LISTED HERE AND CAMBIUM HAS A 1431 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,360 DATA VIEWER WEB TOOL THAT YOU 1432 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,800 CAN USE TO LOOK AT DATA BEHIND 1433 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,520 THESE SCENARIOS AND VISUALIZE 1434 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,840 HOW THAT GRID MIX OF DIFFERENT 1435 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,120 GENERATION TECHNOLOGIES WHITE MIGHT 1436 00:58:59,120 --> 00:58:59,720 CHANGE OVER TIME. 1437 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,640 I WANT TO NOTE, ALTHOUGH THIS IS 1438 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,400 A POWERFUL TOOL FOR MODELING 1439 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,560 FUTURE SCENARIOS IT'S IMPORTANT 1440 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,000 TO NOTE IT'S EMISSIONS ARE 1441 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,040 MONTAGUMODELED FOR BACKWARDS-LOOKING, 1442 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,400 ACTUALLY MISSIONS DATA USING 1443 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,040 DATASETS SUCH AS E-GRID AND 1444 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,800 AVERT ARE RECOMMENDED. 1445 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,760 SO, TO SUMMARIZE, HERE ARE SOME 1446 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,440 OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WE'VE 1447 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,200 CONSIDERED TODAY. 1448 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,600 ON SITE CFE GOVERNMENT OWNED AND 1449 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,200 PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING AND 1450 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:34,600 APPROPRIATIONS. 1451 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,800 YOU HAVE PRIVATELY-OWNED ON-SITE 1452 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,080 OPTIONS LIKE PPAs AND ENERGY 1453 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,280 SALES AGREEMENTS THAT CHANDRA 1454 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,200 COVERED AND THE REAL PROPERTY 1455 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,880 ARRANGEMENTS SUCH AS LEASES OR 1456 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,400 EASEMENTS ON FEDERAL SITES AND 1457 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,320 THEN JENNY COVERED THE WIDE 1458 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,400 RANGE OF OFF SITE PROCUREMENT 1459 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,840 OPTIONS LISTED THERE. 1460 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,560 I'LL COVER JUST A FEW KEY 1461 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:02,480 TAKEAWAYS FROM OUR PRESENTATION 1462 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,240 AND WE CAN GO TO A BREAK AND 1463 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,600 THEN WE'LL COME BACK FOR SOME 1464 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,800 RESOURCES TOOLS AND Q&A. 1465 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,800 SO, BIG PICTURE TAKEAWAYS FROM 1466 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,840 THIS PRESENTATION -- DEFINITELY 1467 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,840 CONSIDER PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING 1468 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:20,200 AS AN IMPORTANT KEYSTONE TO MEET 1469 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,840 YOUR CAR BON FREE POLLUTION 1470 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,800 GOALS. 1471 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,400 REDUCING YOUR LOAD IS A GOOD 1472 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:24,800 START. 1473 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,200 SAVINGS FROM THOSE DIFFERENT 1474 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,680 ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES CAN 1475 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,480 BE USED TO FURTHER DEEPEN YOUR 1476 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,440 ENERGY SAVINGS OR PURSUE OTHER 1477 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,800 STRATEGIES SUCH AS 1478 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,240 ELECTRIFICATION. 1479 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,240 IF YOU LOOK TO PROCURE ON-SITE 1480 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,320 GENERATION, THINK ABOUT 1481 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,600 ALTERNATIVES LIKENNER GEE SALES 1482 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,800 AGREEMENTS, UNDER ESPCs OR 1483 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,360 WORK WITH YOUR SERVING UTILITY 1484 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,400 TO PROCURE THESE OPTIONS. 1485 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,000 IF YOU HAVE SITES IN COMPETITIVE 1486 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,000 MARKETS, REACH OUT TO GSA AND 1487 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,080 DLA ENERGY RESPECTIVELY TO YOUR 1488 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,600 ORGANIZATION FOR ASSISTANCE WITH 1489 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,400 THESE PURCHASES AND THEY HAVE A 1490 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,920 WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE AND 1491 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,200 FINALLY, CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS 1492 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,320 THAT MEET THESE GOALS. 1493 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:08,720 THEY ARE AMBITIOUS AND THERE'S 1494 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,400 NO SINGLE SILVER BULLET 1495 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:13,800 APPROACH. 1496 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,640 LOOK AT PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING, 1497 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,000 PLUS OFF SITE PURCHASES. 1498 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,600 IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON SITE AND 1499 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,600 UTILITY TERRITORY THAT YOU FIND 1500 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:23,920 YOURSELF IN SO I THINK WE'LL 1501 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,960 HAVE TO BE CREATIVE AND I'LL 1502 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,360 NOTE SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT 1503 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,320 ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU ALL TO HELP 1504 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,360 YOU ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS. 1505 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,480 SO, WITH THAT, WE'LL COME UP TO 1506 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:41,000 THE RESOURCES SECTION AT THE TOP 1507 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,960 AND I'LL DEFER TO DIANA TO TALK 1508 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,000 ABOUT ANY BREAK LOGISTICS. 1509 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,800 >> THANK YOU. 1510 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,120 WE'LL TAKE A 15-MINUTE BREAK. 1511 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,080 13 NOW. 1512 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,200 WE'LL START BACK UP AGAIN AT 1513 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,200 12:15 SHARP. 1514 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,880 SO THAT IS IT. 1515 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:03,920 WE'LL SEE EVERYONE SOON. 1516 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:04,400 THANK YOU. 1517 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,920 >> WELCOME BACK TO OUR 1518 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,480 PRESENTATION ON DECARBONIZATION 1519 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,880 PROCUREMENT OPTIONS IN THE 1520 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,720 FEDERAL SECTOR. 1521 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,240 WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP RIGHT 1522 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:20,840 WHERE WE LEFT OFF ON RESOURCES 1523 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,720 AND TOOLS. 1524 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:33,000 >> THANK YOU. 1525 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,040 SO, WE'LL GO OVER SOME FEMP 1526 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,040 TOOLS AND RESOURCES AND GET INTO 1527 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,520 THE Q AND A. 1528 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,520 IF YOU HAVEN'T SUBMITTED A 1529 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,280 QUESTION, WE'LL GET TO THOSE AT 1530 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,640 END OF THE THIS BRIEF SECTION ON 1531 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,160 THE POOLS AND RESOURCES. 1532 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,640 THIS FIRST SLID SHOWS THE MAIN 1533 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:54,080 PAGES FOR ESPC, UESC AND 1534 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,160 DISTRIBUTED ENERGY PROGRAMS. 1535 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,960 EACH HAS EDUCATIONAL 1536 01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,360 INFORMATION, SPECIFIC TOPICAL 1537 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,040 RESOURCES AND INFORMATION ABOUT 1538 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:11,560 THE SERVICES THAT AT THE OFFER. 1539 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,360 HERE WE HAVE TOOLS AND DISCUSSED 1540 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:36,840 THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION AND 1541 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,400 AND THE GREENHOUSE GAS 1542 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,320 ACCOUNTING AND AS WELL AS MORE 1543 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,120 INFORMATION ABOUT THE REAPP WEB 1544 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,360 TOOL AND RENEWABLE ENERGY 1545 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,160 TECHNIQUE AND ECONOMIC ANALYSIS 1546 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,360 AND THE RELATIVE TO EMISSIONS 1547 01:03:51,360 --> 01:04:00,560 DATA AND EPA EGRID INFORMATION. 1548 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,080 YOU CAN SEE HERE ONE OF THE 1549 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,640 CHARGE THAT JENNY WENT OVER IN 1550 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,040 HER PRESENTATIONS AND THIS PAGE 1551 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,760 HAS RESOURCES RELATED TO 1552 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,800 VOLUNTARY PERSONAL AND WHERE 1553 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:19,320 THEY CAME FROM AND SO THEY HAVE 1554 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,440 FEDERAL PROJECT EXECUTIVES OR 1555 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,200 SPE WHO ARE PRIMARILY RESOURCE 1556 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,080 INFORM ASSISTANCE AND GUIDANCE 1557 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,360 ON FEDERAL ENERGY PROJECTS. 1558 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,960 IN THIS MAP SHOWS EACH FPE BY 1559 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,680 THE REGION AND START A PROJECTOR 1560 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,960 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE 1561 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,600 ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO 1562 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:42,920 THE FPE IN YOUR REGION. 1563 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,920 IN ADDITION TO THOSE OFFERED BY 1564 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,400 THE FPE THEY PROVIDE TECHNICAL 1565 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,040 ASSISTANCE AT NO COST AND 1566 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,400 PROVIDING TRAINING FOR SPECIFIC 1567 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,600 AUDIENCES WITH THE AGENCIES AND 1568 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,280 PLEASE SUBMIT A REQUEST THROUGH 1569 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:06,240 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AS WELL AS 1570 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:14,240 DRO AND CONSIDERATIONS AND THE 1571 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,640 PERFORMANCE CONTRACT AND 1572 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,640 PERSONALLY HOSTED AND AS AN ON 1573 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,880 DEMAND TRAINING IN THE NEAR 1574 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,120 FUTURE AND WEBSITE AND WHERE 1575 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,400 RESOURCES CAN BE FOUND. 1576 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,480 THE SECOND TRAINING ON THIS 1577 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,400 PAGE, IT'S NOT A TYPO, THEY'RE 1578 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:35,240 GIVING IT A SIMILAR PRESENTATION 1579 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,800 THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE MADE 1580 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:45,320 AVAILABLE ON DEMAND. 1581 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,800 THERE ARE MANY UPCOMING 1582 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:53,360 ENTERTAINMENT THAT I WANEVENTS.THE FIRST I N MAY WE HAVE SOME 1583 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,440 FEDERAL UTILITY PARTNERSHIP 1584 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,040 WORKING GROUP SCHEDULED FOR MAY 1585 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,440 THIRD AND FOURTH AND 1586 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:01,040 REGISTRATION IS OPEN AND THE 1587 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,880 LINK IS AVAILABLE ON THE SLIDE 1588 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,840 AND THROUGH THE WEB PAGE AND IT 1589 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,600 WILL BE VIRTUAL AND NO COST TO 1590 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:10,840 PARTICIPATE. 1591 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:17,680 IT WILL BRING SPOT FEDERAL AGE TOGETHER FE DERAL 1592 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,640 AGES AND MAINTAIN PARTNERSHIPS 1593 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:40,520 IN ORDER TO IN THE MID JUNE AND 1594 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,560 AND STAY TUNED FOR MORE 1595 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:47,000 INFORMATION ABOUT THAT WEBINAR. 1596 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,800 WE ALSO WANTED HIGHLIGHT SOME 1597 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,120 EXISTING RESOURCES THAT ARE 1598 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,520 AVAILABLE ALSO ON THE WEBSITE WE 1599 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:59,800 HAVE A SERIES ON ESPC ESAs AND 1600 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,440 IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE 1601 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,960 NOT AVAILABLE ON DEMAND, LET US 1602 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,280 KNOW AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH 1603 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,800 THE RESOURCES. 1604 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,080 THIS IS THE FINAL TRAINING SLIDE 1605 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,000 AND WE CAN GET TO THE Q&A BUT WE 1606 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,000 DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS 1607 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,400 WORKING WITH YOUR UTILITY 1608 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:19,240 WEBINAR SERIES AND THE FIRST 1609 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,080 THROW INSTALLMENTS WHICH ARE 1610 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,920 AVAILABLE ON DEMAND AND THESE 1611 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,680 FOCUS ON INTERCONNECTION POP 1612 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,160 TICKS BASICS AND SOME MORE 1613 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:28,320 ADVANCE TOPICS AS WELL AS 1614 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,920 UTILITY COSTS IMPLICATIONS OF 1615 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,720 DISTRIBUTED ENERGY PROJECTS. 1616 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,520 WITH THAT, NEXT SLIDE, PLACE. 1617 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,520 WE CAN MOVE TO THE Q&A SESSION. 1618 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,240 SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO 1619 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,720 HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED YOUR 1620 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,280 QUESTIONS THROUGH THE WINDOW IN 1621 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,320 THE BROWSER AND I WANT TO 1622 01:07:53,320 --> 01:08:00,360 COMMENT BEFORE WE GET THINGS OFF 1623 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,640 AND AND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER 1624 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,320 WHERE THERE ARE OTHERS AND 1625 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,000 REALLY THIS GOAL IS TO 1626 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,840 DEMONSTRATE HOW EXISTING 1627 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,920 TEMPERATURETOOLSCAN BE USED IN CLASSIFICAT ION OF 1628 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,440 ELECTRICITY THAT YOUR AGENCY IS 1629 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,440 SEEKING WHICH MAY INCLUDE ROW 1630 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:19,400 KNEW ABLE AND SO, CAN YOU GO 1631 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,400 AHEAD AND GET STARTED. 1632 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,280 THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE'RE 1633 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,600 GOING THROUGH IS ESPC AND USEC 1634 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,920 ARE THERE CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS 1635 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,440 DURING THE 25-YEAR PERIOD OF THE 1636 01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:36,040 FIXED PRICE CONTRACT DO YOU TO 1637 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,400 CHANGE IN MISSION OBJECTIVES 1638 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:47,680 THAT REQUIRE POWER INCREASED? 1639 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,560 >> I'M TAKE A SHOT AT THAT ONE. 1640 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,320 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OFTEN 1641 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,880 CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS AND 1642 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,160 CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS ARE AN 1643 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,760 OPTION AND DEPENDING ON HOW 1644 01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,400 SUBSTANTIAL THE CHANGES ARE AND 1645 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,160 MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO DO FOR 1646 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,800 EXAMPLE A CHANGE ORDER OR IT 1647 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,360 MIGHT NECESSARILY REQUIRE AN 1648 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,320 OFFICIAL CONTRACT MAUD BUT 1649 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:09,640 REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION 1650 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,240 AND I ENCOURAGE ANY AGENCY 1651 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,760 DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE TO REACH 1652 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,120 OUT TO THE FEDERAL PROJECT 1653 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,720 EXECUTIVE AS NICOLE MENTIONS A 1654 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,280 GREAT RESOURCES AND OTHER 1655 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:28,760 VARIOUS OTHER EXPERTS THAT CAN 1656 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:39,960 HELP YOU. 1657 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,600 SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 1658 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,240 RELATED TO POTENTIAL CONTRACT 1659 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,080 PODS, REACH OUT TO THEM AND WE 1660 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:52,520 CAN PROVIDE ASSISTANCE. 1661 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,800 WE HAVE A RETIRED FORMER 1662 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,360 CONTRACTING OFFICER ON CONTRACTS 1663 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,560 AND THEY HAVE A FORMER NAVY C.O. 1664 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,120 AND OTHER FORMER C.O.s AS WELL 1665 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,840 THAT HELP WITH THESE TYPES OF 1666 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:10,160 QUESTIONS. 1667 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,200 LOOKS LIKE DOUG MIGHT HAVE 1668 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:12,960 SOMETHING TO ADD THERE. 1669 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,200 >> I THINK YOU COVERED IT. 1670 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:15,360 YOU GOT IT ALL. 1671 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:20,960 >> OK. 1672 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,360 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS RELATED 1673 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,960 TO REC OWNERSHIP AND JENNY IN 1674 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:25,720 YOUR PORTION OF THE 1675 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,240 PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED THAT 1676 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,240 THERE WERE OPTION THAT'S WOULD 1677 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,520 NOT INCLUDE RECs BEING 1678 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,560 PROVIDED TO THE CUSTOMER IN THAT 1679 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:33,760 CASE. 1680 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:38,680 COULD YOU COMMENT A LITTLE BIT 1681 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:39,680 ABOUT WHY THEY MIGHT BE BETTER 1682 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,760 OR BENEFICIAL FOR AN AGENCY? 1683 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,720 >> YEAH, SO, YEAH, THAT'S 1684 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:44,000 CORRECT. 1685 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,080 NOT ALL OPTIONS CONVEY THE 1686 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,800 RECs TO THE CUSTOMER. 1687 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,840 AND THAT SOMETIMES HAS TO DO 1688 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,520 WITH JUST THE FINANCIAL VALUES 1689 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,320 THAT THE RECS CAN CARRY AND 1690 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,080 CERTAIN MARKETS. 1691 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,720 SO, AND SOME CASES, YOU MIGHT BE 1692 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,400 ABLE TO SAVE MORE MONEY THROUGH 1693 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,440 A CONTRACT IF YOU DON'T KEEP THE 1694 01:11:02,440 --> 01:11:04,040 REC ZOOS IF YOU LET THE UTILITY 1695 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,520 KEEP THEM OR LET A THIRD PARTY 1696 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,160 DEVELOPER KEEP THEM AND THAT IS 1697 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,040 SOMETHING WE SEE A LOT AND THE 1698 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,760 COMMUNITY SOLAR SPACE WHERE 1699 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:13,640 STATES HAVE ESTABLISHED 1700 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:19,040 COMMUNITY SOLAR MANDATES AND THE 1701 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:23,680 UTILITIES YOU USING THE RECs TO 1702 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:24,960 COMPLY WITH THOSE MANDATES. 1703 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,560 YEAH, PRIMARILY THE TRADE OFF 1704 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,320 IS, CLAIMING THE RENEWABLE 1705 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,920 ENERGY USE VERSUS THE COST OF 1706 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:40,520 THE PRODUCT THAT YOU AR YOU ARE BUYING. 1707 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:41,600 >> GREAT, THANK YOU. 1708 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,880 THERE'S A QUESTION HERE I THINK 1709 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,920 WE CAN LIKELY GO TO YOU AS WELL 1710 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:53,800 AND RELATED TO LISTS OF 1711 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,120 AVAILABLE PRODUCTS OR OPTIONSES 1712 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,520 FROM SUPPLIERS AND I WONDER IF 1713 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,800 YOU CAN SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT 1714 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,440 VOLUNTARY PROCUREMENT PAGE. 1715 01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:05,600 WE ARE NOT PRODUCING IN 1716 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,960 SUPPLIERS OR THEIR PRODUCTS IN 1717 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:13,800 THIS FORM BUT, THAT IS A 1718 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:14,080 (INAUDIBLE). 1719 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,960 >> YEAH, ONE OF THE RESOURCES 1720 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,200 THAT WAS LISTED IS A RESOURCE ON 1721 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,760 AVAILABLE PRODUCTS. 1722 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:27,960 WE COVER THINGS LIKE GROWN GROWN GREEN 1723 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,240 PRICING, GREEN TARIFFs, 1724 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:30,040 COMMUNITY SOLAR AS WELL. 1725 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,640 I WOULD SAY THAT THESE PRODUCTS 1726 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:32,560 CHANGE ALL THE TIME. 1727 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,040 SO IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO KEEP 1728 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,320 UP WITH WHICH PRODUCTS ARE 1729 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,360 AVAILABLE AND WHEN. 1730 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,440 SO IT ENCOURAGES YOU TO WORK 1731 01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:44,240 WITH OTHERS TO FIND THE MOST 1732 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,280 UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION BUT YEAH, 1733 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,640 WE HAVE A LIST OF PRODUCTS ON 1734 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,480 THAT PRICING PAGE. 1735 01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:56,600 AND YEAH, IT DOESN'T COVER 1736 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:57,280 EVERYTHING. 1737 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,760 WITH COMPETITIVE SUPPLIERS, WE 1738 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,440 KNOW THOSE OFFERS CHANGE QUITE A 1739 01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,920 BIT AS WELL SO THAT WHY WORKING 1740 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:10,040 WITH DLA ENERGY, OR ANOTHER GSA 1741 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:11,600 CAN HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TO 1742 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,520 PROCURE THROUGH THAT PATHWAY. 1743 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:21,200 >> 1744 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,280 >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING 1745 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:29,240 THEY WANT TO ADD ON THAT TOPIC? 1746 01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:48,080 WE COULD ALSO POINT FOLKS TO IT 1747 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,360 COVERS A LOT OF GREEN TARIFF 1748 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,480 OPTION THIS IS ADDITION TO THE 1749 01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:54,000 GREEN PRICING SUMMARY THAT JENNY 1750 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,040 WAS JUST DESCRIBING. 1751 01:13:55,040 --> 01:14:02,720 IT'S ANOTHER RESOURCE FOR FOLKS. 1752 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,440 >> THAT WAS INCLUDED ON THAT 1753 01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:08,640 LIST OF RESOURCES AS WELL. 1754 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,440 FOR FOLKS TO CHECK OUT. 1755 01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:14,960 HE THINK THAT ADDRESSES THE 1756 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,680 QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE SO FAR 1757 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,240 BUT THERE ARE ANY OTHER 1758 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,840 QUESTIONS IN THE CHAT WE WOULD 1759 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,280 REALLY (INAUDIBLE). 1760 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,040 WOULD ANYONE ON THE TEAM LIKE TO 1761 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,760 ADD ANYTHING ABOUT TODAY'S 1762 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:40,240 PRESENTATION? 1763 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,720 >> I HAVE ONE ADD. 1764 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,640 WHEN IT COMES TO THE ON SITE 1765 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:45,800 PROJECT I DID MENTION WHEN IT 1766 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:50,480 COMES TO COORDINATING WITH 1767 01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:52,440 UTILITY IS TO ASK THE UTILITY IF 1768 01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:54,080 THERE'S A TARIFF CHANGE THAT 1769 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,440 WOULD RESULT FROM ANY 1770 01:14:56,440 --> 01:15:00,440 PERFORMANCE CONTRACT AND ENERGY 1771 01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:02,760 EFFICIENCY AS WELL AS ON SITE 1772 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,360 CFE CAN CHANGE THE USAGE 1773 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,360 PATTERNS AND TAKE YOU INTO A 1774 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,040 DIFFERENT TARIFF CATEGORY AND IF 1775 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,920 YOU DO FOR EXAMPLE SOLAR AND OR 1776 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,800 BATTERIES, THERE MIGHT BE A 1777 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,000 SPECIFIC TARIFF THAT WOULD APPLY 1778 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,640 THAT YOU WON'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR. 1779 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,880 YOU MAY BE ELIGIBLE OR REQUIRED 1780 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,200 TO SWITCH TO A CERTAIN TARIFF. 1781 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:23,840 THEY'RE ALSO STAND BY TARIFFS 1782 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,400 THAT MIGHT APPLY DEPENDING ON 1783 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,440 THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE SIZE OF 1784 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:28,480 THE PROJECT SO THAT'S VERY 1785 01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:30,200 IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND SO 1786 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:31,360 TARIFF CHANGES AND STAND BY 1787 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,280 CHARGES ARE VERY IMPORTANT WHEN 1788 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,560 IT COMES TO DETERMINE FORECAST 1789 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,440 THE PROJECT WILL BE COST 1790 01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:36,680 EFFECTIVE. 1791 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,360 AND UNDERSTANDING THE 1792 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,600 IMPLICATIONS ON THE COST SIDE EX 1793 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:41,840 ANOTHER IMPORTANT REASON TO TALK 1794 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,400 TO THE UTILITY IN ADDITION TO 1795 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,120 WHAT I JUST MENTIONED AND ALSO 1796 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:52,400 TO FIND OUT WHAT TYPE OF THEY 1797 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,960 MIGHT HAVE. 1798 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,840 >> AND ONE ADDITIONAL POINT 1799 01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,880 THERE IN THE RESOURCE THAT'S ARE 1800 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:01,240 THINK IT WOULD BE TO 1801 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,200 SPECIFICALLY DOING THIS 1802 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,120 PRESENTATION OTHER REGION 1803 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,640 CHECKLIST TO HELPING THROUGH 1804 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:13,640 THAT PROCESS AND THE FEDERAL 1805 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:58,280 SPECIFIC LANDSCAPE YOU WILL SEE 1806 01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,240 HIGHER SAVINGS. 1807 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,680 IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH SAVINGS, IT 1808 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,160 REALLY VARIES A CROSS THE 1809 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,640 COUNTRY AND IN TERMS OF WHAT 1810 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,200 COMPLIANCE MARKET YOU ARE IN AND 1811 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,600 THERE'S A LOT OF RENEWABLE 1812 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,320 ENERGY SUPPLY AND FOR EXAMPLE, 1813 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:16,880 IN TEXAS RECs ARE NOT WORTH A 1814 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,800 LOT SO YOU WOULDN'T SEE A LOT 1815 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:25,240 MORE SAVINGS AND OTHER MARKETS 1816 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:26,520 IN THE NORTHEAST AND ATLANTIC 1817 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,800 YOU MAY SEE MORE COST SAVINGS BY 1818 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,080 TELLING THE RECs. 1819 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,880 SO, I HATE THAT ANSWER BUT IT'S 1820 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,640 ALWAYS MARKET SPECIFIC AND 1821 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:38,680 CONTACT-SPECIFIC BUT YES IN 1822 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,760 GENERAL, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE 1823 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:46,680 WATCHING SAVINGS FOR SAVINGS FOR 1824 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:46,920 CLAIMS. 1825 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:47,280 >> GREAT. 1826 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:47,800 THANK YOU. 1827 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,920 I THINK SO MUCH OF THIS CAN BE 1828 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:51,800 LOCATION-DRIVEN, ESPECIALLY IF 1829 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,440 YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE RATE 1830 01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:58,760 STRUCTURE OR UTILITY MARKET 1831 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:04,640 STRUCTURES AS WELL. 1832 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,880 >> THERE'S A QUESTION. 1833 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,240 BRING ON BOARD A REPRESENTATIVE 1834 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,240 TO ASSIST WITH CONTRACT LANGUAGE 1835 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,480 AS A BENEFICIAL INVESTMENT. 1836 01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:15,840 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT 1837 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,200 HERE THAT'S ASSISTANCE WITH THAT 1838 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,600 TYPE OF CONTRACT LANGUAGE IS 1839 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,240 SERVICES PROVIDED TO AGENCIES 1840 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,240 AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND THE 1841 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,000 ASSESSMENTS AND SO I WANT TO ADD 1842 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,280 THAT POINT IN THERE AND ALSO 1843 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,720 CHANDRA CAN YOU TAKE THAT ONE? 1844 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,440 >> SURE. 1845 01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:37,440 IT CAN BE BENEFICIAL WHEN IT 1846 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:39,800 COMES TO GENERAL PPA 1847 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,600 CONSIDERATIONS AND FEDERAL 1848 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,720 AGENCIES TYPICALLY NEED TO 1849 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,120 COMPLY WITH THE FEDERAL 1850 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,080 ACQUISITION REGULATIONS OR FAR 1851 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,800 SO THEY'RE CONTRACTS LOOK A 1852 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,080 LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE 1853 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,800 PRIVATE SECTOR CONTRACTS. 1854 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,720 SO, IF YOU ARE BRINGING ON BOARD 1855 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,520 A PRIVATE COMPANY TO HELP WITH 1856 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,600 THE PROCUREMENT, THEY MAY NOT BE 1857 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,600 ABLE WITH THE FAR CONSIDERATIONS 1858 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,320 UNLESS THEY HAVE 1859 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,600 FEDERAL-SPECIFIC EXPERTISE IN 1860 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:10,480 THAT AREA SO YEAH, IT COULD BE 1861 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:10,800 HELPFUL. 1862 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,480 THEY MAY BE HELPFUL IF THAT AREA 1863 01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:16,080 AND IT MAY BE HELPFUL IN THE 1864 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:29,920 GENERAL CONSIDERATION AREA AND 1865 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,440 THINGS YOU WOULD WANT TO KIND OF 1866 01:19:32,440 --> 01:19:37,080 LOOK INTO IS SEEING IF THEY 1867 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,520 COULD GET COMPS FROM OTHER 1868 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:40,640 COMPARABLE TRANSACTION ZOOS YOU 1869 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,240 HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE PPA 1870 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,000 MARKET IS IN THAT AREA AND THOSE 1871 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:55,000 ARE USUALLY PROPRIETARY AND 1872 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,520 IDENTIFYING RISKY CLAUSES FOR 1873 01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:57,480 THE GOVERNMENT. 1874 01:19:57,480 --> 01:19:59,040 EVALUATING THE REASONABLENESS OF 1875 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,040 ESCALATION RATES IS A REALLY 1876 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,640 IMPORTANT ONE AND YOU KNOW, YOU 1877 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,280 MIGHT GET MULTIPLE, IF YOU DON'T 1878 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,280 SPECIFY, WHAT ESCALATION RATE TO 1879 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,800 USE YOU MIGHT GET MULTIPLE BIDS 1880 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,240 THAT MAKES IT HARD TO COMPARE. 1881 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,040 WELL AS MY SIX CENT PPA WITH 1882 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:21,080 THIS 4% ESCALATE EGG BETTER DEAL A BETTER DEAL, 1883 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,240 SOMEONE WITH FINANCIAL MODELING 1884 01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,880 ABILITIES TO KIND OF LOOK AT 1885 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,640 THOSE DIFFERENT PAYMENTS STREAMS 1886 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,240 FOR YOU AND TELL YOU WHAT THE 1887 01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,280 BETTER DEAL MIGHT BE OR WHAT THE 1888 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:42,040 BENEFITS OR RISKS MIGHT BE AND 1889 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,320 AND THE CONTEXT OF CIVILIAN 1890 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:51,640 AGENCIES, IT'S SHORT TERM AND SO 1891 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,680 CAN THEY GET IT DONE IN A PAR 1892 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:56,680 PART 41 TRANSACTION SO THERE'S A 1893 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,320 BIGGER QUESTION WITH THE PPA 1894 01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,800 STUFF OF CAN YOU GET THE PROJECT 1895 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:05,440 DONE IF YOU ARE NOT DoD? 1896 01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:05,920 >> RIGHT. 1897 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,520 >> OR THE ASPECTS TOO. 1898 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,200 HOW THEY'RE TREATED AND DOING 1899 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,560 THE DUE DILIGENCE OF LIKE, YOU 1900 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,400 KNOW, IF YOU THINK THAT THE PPA 1901 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,160 DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO GET THE 1902 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:23,240 TAX INCENTIVES PLUS THESE, SAY 1903 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,440 YOU ARE IN D.C. THEY'RE VALUABLE 1904 01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,840 AND UNDERSTANDING HOW MUCH OF 1905 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,000 THAT VALUE IS GOING TO YOU IN 1906 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,320 TERMS OF A LOWER PPA PRICE AND 1907 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:32,200 IT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING TO 1908 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:36,280 KIND OF EVALUATE CAREFULLY. 1909 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:37,440 >> GOOD POINT. 1910 01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:44,080 THE ONE DOWNSIDE OF HAVING THE S 1911 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,560 REC SOLD FROM A PROJECT IS THESE 1912 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:52,120 MARKETS ARE HAVE TILE AN VOLATILE. 1913 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,840 IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND 1914 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,600 WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF PRICES 1915 01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,920 CHANGE WHILE YOU ARE NEGOTIATING 1916 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,000 THE CONTRACT IF THERE'S A BIG 1917 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,960 MARKET CHANGE WHILE YOU ARE IN 1918 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,040 NEGOTIATION ALSO THEY SAY, WELL, 1919 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:07,560 THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THE REC 1920 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,720 MARKET SO WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR 1921 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:11,080 PRICE. 1922 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,880 AND THE RECs GO UP AND THEY 1923 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,640 SAY WE'RE ABLE TO LOW THE POLICE 1924 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:15,840 THAT'S GREAT BUT IF THE THE 1925 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,440 OTHER WAY AROUND FEDERAL 1926 01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:19,800 GOVERNMENT MIGHT REALIZE THE 1927 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:44,720 PROJECT IS NOT VIABLE. 1928 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,720 >> WHEN IT COMES TO THE FAR 1929 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,920 CLAUSES AND SUCH AND SOME OF THE 1930 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:50,520 FEDERAL-SPECIFIC CONTRACTS IF 1931 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,760 THE CONTRACTING OFFICER NEEDS 1932 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,440 HELP DECIDING THE APPROPRIATE 1933 01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:54,720 CAUSE AND IF THEY HAVE 1934 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,880 CONTRACTING QUESTIONS WE CAN 1935 01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,440 CERTAINLY BRING IN ROSS TO HELP 1936 01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,720 WITH THAT. 1937 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,160 >> GREAT. 1938 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:03,760 THANK YOU. 1939 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,400 THE ONE QUICK LAST POINT I'LL 1940 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:10,080 MAKE ON THAT QUESTION IS THAT 1941 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,920 FEMALE AND DOE IN THE PROGRAMS 1942 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,360 OFFICE ARE COLLABORATING ON THE 1943 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:15,760 DEVELOPMENT OF THE PERFORMANCE 1944 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,200 CONTRACTING NATURAL RESOURCES 1945 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,560 WHICH WILL HAVE A TRAINING 1946 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,480 CERTIFICATE SERIES FOR OWNERS 1947 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:25,720 REPRESENTING FOR ESPC SO IF YOU 1948 01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:26,560 ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE 1949 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,640 ABOUT THE ROLE THAT THERE'S 1950 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,040 (INAUDIBLE) PLEASE STAY TUNED IN 1951 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,120 THERE AND WE'LL (INAUDIBLE) MORE 1952 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,720 OF THAT INFORMATION OUT SHORTLY. 1953 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,880 ANOTHER QUESTION RELATED TO 1954 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,600 SERVICES BEING CHARGERS THERE'S 1955 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:48,920 A FEW SO WE HAVE A LIMITED 1956 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,360 BUDGET SO DEPENDING ON THE 1957 01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,240 SCOPE, WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A 1958 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:53,040 FURTHER DISCUSSION AND 1959 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,640 UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THE 1960 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,280 NEEDS OF THE AGENCY AND REGION 1961 01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:58,440 ARE BUT IN GENERAL THERE'S THE 1962 01:23:58,440 --> 01:24:00,720 TYPE OF ASSISTANCE IS OFFERED 1963 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:20,800 THROUGH THE CHARGE STATION. 1964 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,080 WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OTHER 1965 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,480 COMMENTS RELATED TO (INAUDIBLE) 1966 01:24:25,480 --> 01:24:28,760 AND WE WANT TO CLARIFY THAT 1967 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,800 WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SHARE 1968 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,160 INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE 1969 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:33,360 ACCOUNTING MAY OR MAY NOT BE 1970 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,520 AFFECTED BY THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER 1971 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,240 INSTRUCTIONS AND I (INAUDIBLE) 1972 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,480 AND JUST MENTION AGAIN THERE ARE 1973 01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:48,200 MANY INSTRUCTIONS ARE FOURTH 1974 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:56,040 COMING. 1975 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,560 ALL RIGHT. 1976 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,680 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE TEAM 1977 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,600 FROM NREL. 1978 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,480 WHEN A WEALTH OF INFORMATION AND 1979 01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:08,960 I'M SURE AS WE GET OUR 1980 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,280 IMPLEMENTING INSTRUCTIONS 1981 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,040 EVERYONE WILL DIGEST ALL THESE 1982 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:27,280 OPTIONS AND AND NAVIGATING 1983 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:32,360 THROUGH ALL OF THIS SO WE'RE A 1984 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,600 LITTLE BIT EARLY AND I'D LIKE TO 1985 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:42,840 MAKE SURE OUR NEXT PRESENTERS 1986 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,280 HAVE TIME SO WE WILL BREAK 1987 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,040 BRIEFLY FOR A FEW MINUTES UNTIL 1988 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,440 WE HAVE EVERYONE TOGETHER AND 1989 01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:50,440 WE'LL START UP AGAIN AT 12:45. 1990 01:25:50,440 --> 01:26:06,800 THANK YOU. 1991 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,240 AN HOUR LONG WORKSHOP AT ENERGY 1992 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,120 STORAGE AT FEDERAL FACILITIES 1993 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,280 AND TODAY WE HAVE KEN SANDLER, 1994 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,360 NICK, DAVE AND ALEX WHO WILL BE 1995 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:23,360 PRESENTINPRESENTING ASK I'LL TURN IT OVER 1996 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,360 TO YOU GUYS. 1997 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,440 LET ME GET MY PRESENTATION TEED 1998 01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:27,800 UP HERE. 1999 01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,520 AND I HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING 2000 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,600 WELL TODAY. 2001 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:41,000 SO, LET'S SHARE. 2002 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,600 CAN YOU SEE THAT. 2003 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:43,400 >> YES. 2004 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:44,560 >> EXCELLENT. 2005 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,320 >> OK. 2006 01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:48,760 SO, I AM KEN SANDLER WITH THE 2007 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,120 OFFICE OF FEDERAL HIGH 2008 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,800 PERFORMANCE GREEN BUILDINGS. 2009 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,400 I'VE BEEN WORKING TO MAKE THE 2010 01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,800 GOVERNMENT AND COUNTRY MORE 2011 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,560 SUSTAINABLE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS 2012 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,240 NOW AND MOST OF THAT LAST 20 2013 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,600 YEARS FOCUSED ON GREEN BUILDING. 2014 01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,080 GETTING TO COVER A LOT OF 2015 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,800 INTERESTING ISSUES. 2016 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,480 ENERGY STORAGE IS THE LATEST ONE 2017 01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:16,440 THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TODAY. 2018 01:27:16,440 --> 01:27:20,000 SO, WHEN PEOPLE ABOUT THE CLEAN 2019 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,360 ENERGY TRANSITION THEY LIKE TO 2020 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:26,200 SHOW THESE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF 2021 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:27,520 WINDMILLS AND CELLS AND WE LIKE 2022 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,640 TO TALK ABOUT EFFICIENCY BUT 2023 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,240 SORT OF THE THIRD LEG THAT IS 2024 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,480 NOT AS GLAMOUR US BUT EXTREMELY 2025 01:27:35,480 --> 01:27:37,880 IMPORTANT IS SORT OF THE WHOLE 2026 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,400 DELIVERY AND TRANSMISSION AND 2027 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,160 STORAGE OF ENERGY. 2028 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:44,920 THAT IS CRITICAL TO MAKE THIS 2029 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:46,240 TRANSITION SUCCEED AND IT'S 2030 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:50,040 MENTIONED IN THE MAY EXECUTIVE 2031 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:50,760 ORDER 14057. 2032 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,800 I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL THIS 2033 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,600 BUT WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THIS 2034 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,440 CONCEPT OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR 2035 01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:02,400 ELECTRICITY IS POLLUTION FREE, 2036 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,280 24 HOURS A DAY SEVEN DAYS A 2037 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:06,280 WEEK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY 2038 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:07,600 DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT BUT 2039 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,640 STORAGE IS A ABSOLUTELY 2040 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,800 ESSENTIAL PART OF THAT. 2041 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,240 MAKING SURE THAT WE GENERATE 2042 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,320 ENERGY WHEN THE SUN IS SHINING 2043 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,800 AND THE WIND IS BLOWING, ET 2044 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:27,200 CETERA AND WE STORE IT AND THE 2045 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:36,800 INDUCE TREMENDOUS TRENDS AND IT 2046 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,720 WAS CREATED BY THE SAME TIME 2047 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,440 THAT OUR OFFICE, THE FEDERAL 2048 01:28:42,440 --> 01:28:44,080 HIGH PERFORMANCE OFFICE WAS 2049 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,200 CREATED HAS 10 FEDERAL AGENCIES, 2050 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,040 THE BEST SORT OF PRIVATE SECTOR 2051 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,240 AND NGO PEOPLE I COULD FIND IN 2052 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:57,840 TERMS OF GROWN BUILDIN GREEN BUILDING EXPE RTS. 2053 01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,400 THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF 2054 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,920 SESSIONS AT THIS SYMPOSIUM AND 2055 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:03,480 TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF THOSE 2056 01:29:03,480 --> 01:29:05,680 ISSUES AND WE HAD ONE ON FEDERAL 2057 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,040 AND DECARBONIZATION TWO DAYS AGO 2058 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,440 AND THERE'S ONE IN CARBON AND 2059 01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:13,200 MATERIALS # A COUPLE DAYS AGO 2060 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:13,920 THAT WAS COVERED. 2061 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,320 WE COULD FIND THOSE IN THE 2062 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:23,040 PRESENTATIONS ON-LINE BUT THIS 2063 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:27,320 ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS LIKE OUR 2064 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:32,000 ENERGY POLICY OR RATHER ITCHING 2065 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,480 YOU BAITER SO IT'S A STORAGE 2066 01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:39,000 THEY TACKLED AND DEVELOPED AND 2067 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:47,400 WE CALL AN ADVICE LER AND THE 2068 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:55,880 FINDINGS FROM THAT DAVID IS THE 2069 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:56,800 CHAIRPERSON OF OUR WHOLE 2070 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,400 ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND HE ALSO 2071 01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:00,880 WANTS TO SHARE THE TASK GROUP 2072 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,080 THAT TACKLED THE ISSUE OF ENERGY 2073 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:11,360 STORAGE AND DAVID IS ONE OF THE 2074 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:16,040 LEADERS AS AN ENGINEER AND THE 2075 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,440 DESIGN OF BEST GREEN BUILDINGS 2076 01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:21,440 ON THE NET-ZERO ENERGY BUILDINGS 2077 01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:22,920 SO WE'LL BE HEARING FROM HIM IN 2078 01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,280 A BIT ABOUT THE ADVISORY 2079 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,440 COMMITTEE'S FINDINGS AND 2080 01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:28,800 RECOMMENDATIONS. 2081 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,840 FIRST WE'RE HEAL FROM NICK 2082 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,520 TUMILOWICZ AND HE IS THE 2083 01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,760 PRINCIPAL MANAGER LEADING THE 2084 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,520 ENERGY UTILITY AND CUSTOMER 2085 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,520 RESEARCH INITIATIVES THERE WITH 2086 01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:43,920 20 YEARS' EXPERIENCE ON THE 2087 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,760 CLIMATE OF DISTRIBUTED ENERGY 2088 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,240 RESOURCES IN ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY, 2089 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:54,440 PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. 2090 01:30:54,440 --> 01:30:57,480 WE WILL ALSO HEAR FROM ALEX CATE 2091 01:30:57,480 --> 01:31:06,960 AN NOT GUINEARINAN ENGINEERING MANAGER THE RE. 2092 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,080 AMERESCO IS IN RENEWABLE ENERGY 2093 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,600 ASSET OWNER AND OPERATOR AND 2094 01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,240 WE'LL BE HEARING ABOUT A PROJECT 2095 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,160 THAT ALEX AND AMERESCO WORKED ON 2096 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,160 ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS AT THE 2097 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:27,600 BUILDING IN COURTHOUSE IN 2098 01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:28,040 CALIFORNIA. 2099 01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,640 WE'LL START WITH NICK GIVING US 2100 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:30,960 AN OVERVIEW OF THE FIELD AND 2101 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,040 WHERE IT STANDS IN THE TRENDS 2102 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,040 AND ALL THAT. 2103 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,880 >> YEAH, THANK YOU, KEN. 2104 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,800 APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU ALL 2105 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,040 FOR BEING PRESENT TO HEAR US OUT 2106 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,400 AS KEN MENTIONED, MY NAME IS 2107 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,840 NICK TUMILOWICZ LEADING RESEARCH 2108 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,000 RELATED TO INTERNATIONAL STORAGE 2109 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:51,280 DEPLOYMENTS. 2110 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,080 WE LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY AND THE 2111 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:53,800 DIFFERENT PROJECTS THEMSELVES 2112 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,120 AND THE ECONOMICS. 2113 01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,440 TODAY, WE WANT TO TAKE A COUPLE 2114 01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:00,560 MINUTES TO SHARE KIND OF A OVER 2115 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,080 ARCHING PERSPECTIVE OF THE 2116 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,320 POSSIBILITY AND ENERGY FOR 2117 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:07,760 STORAGE ACROSS THE FLEET OF 2118 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:08,920 HUNDREDS IF NOT A THOUSAND 2119 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,840 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS ACROSS THE 2120 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,000 FEDERAL PORTFOLIO. 2121 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,360 A QUICK NOTE IS WE'RE 2122 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,920 INTERNATIONAL MONDA NON-PROFIT 2123 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,560 ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON 2124 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:21,720 ADVANCING ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES 2125 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,000 THAT ARE SAFE, RELIABLE, 2126 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:25,200 SUSTAINABLE AND AFFORDABLE. 2127 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:29,400 SO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 2128 01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:33,400 SO, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD TO 2129 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:34,880 START AND IDENTIFY WHERE WE ARE 2130 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:36,840 WITH THE DEPLOYMENT OF ENERGY 2131 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,120 STORAGE IN THE CONTEXT OF 2132 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:42,000 BUILDINGS TODAY AND ALSO I 2133 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:43,440 IDENTIFY WITH OUR CRYSTAL BALL 2134 01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:48,320 WE HAVE, WHERE WE'RE GOING THIS 2135 01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:48,680 DECADE. 2136 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,240 WE'RE ALREADY ACHIEVING AN 2137 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:54,600 ANNUAL GLOBAL DEPLOYMENT RATE OF 2138 01:32:54,600 --> 01:33:10,880 ABOUT 20 GIGAWATTS A YEAR THERE 2139 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,200 ARE A LOT OF ITERATIVE PRODUCT 2140 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,640 GAMES TAKING PLACE AND WE'LL 2141 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,120 HEAR ABOUT WHAT THE VALUE LOOKS 2142 01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:23,840 LIKE EVEN OVER TIME SOME ARE 10, 2143 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:30,800 FIVE, AND TWO-YEARS-OLD. 2144 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:32,040 SO A LOT OF EVIDENCE AND GROWTH 2145 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,040 AND WE'RE LOOKING ON THE ORDER 2146 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:35,560 OF 14 TIMES GROWTH JUST IN THE 2147 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:41,040 DECADE ALONE. 2148 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:41,360 NEXT SLIDE. 2149 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,240 AS WE LIKE TO SAY, AS WE TALK TO 2150 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:44,360 YOU UTILITIES AND THE CUSTOMERS 2151 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,360 OF UTILITIES ON A DAILY BASIS 2152 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,360 YOU CAN NO LONGER RUN AWAY FROM 2153 01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,000 ENERGY STORAGE ANYMORE IF YOU 2154 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,640 LIVE IN ANY OF THE 50 STATES. 2155 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,640 SO THIS IS A INDICATIVE OF WHERE 2156 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,760 THE CAPACITY IS GOING OVER THE 2157 01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:11,720 NEXT FIVE YEARS AND IF WE LOOK 2158 01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,840 DOWN THE COAST AND ACROSS INTO 2159 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,920 THE DEEP SOUTH AND TEXAS AND SO 2160 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:17,920 THERE'S SIGNIFICANT CAPACITY 2161 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,720 THAT ARE TODAY AND A SIGNIFICANT 2162 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:21,680 FORECAST TO SEE THAT DEPLOYED 2163 01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,240 AND WE DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT 2164 01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:24,880 WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE OTHER 2165 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,640 COAST AND NEW YORK STATE, 2166 01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,280 FLORIDA, VIRGINIA, AND WHAT IS 2167 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,200 HAPPENING IN THE MIDWEST WITH 2168 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,080 LMI SO, WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING 2169 01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:34,720 A FLEET OR A PORTFOLIO OF 2170 01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,200 BUILDING TO EVALUATE, THESE ARE 2171 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:38,760 REALLY GOOD KIND OF GUIDE POSTS 2172 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:43,960 AND MARKERS TO LOOK TO SEE 2173 01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,520 REGIONS, STATES THAT HAVE 2174 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,600 REASONABLY ESTABLISHED AND GREG 2175 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,040 PROCESSES TO MAKE IT MORE 2176 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,440 EFFICIENT TO HAVE IT INSTALLED 2177 01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:55,400 AND SO SIGNIFICANT GROWTH GOOD 2178 01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:56,960 GUIDELINES FOR YOU TO LOOK AT 2179 01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:00,240 FROM A FEDERAL BUILDING ASK 2180 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:01,560 INTEGRATION AND BATTERY 2181 01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,360 INTEGRATION PERSPECTIVE. 2182 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,320 AND THEN, LAST SLIDE ON MARKET 2183 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:08,920 ADDITION. 2184 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,120 THIS IS ZOOMING IN REALLY 2185 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:12,360 SPECIFICALLY TO COMMERCIAL 2186 01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,200 INDUSTRIAL MARKET SEGMENT. 2187 01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:15,480 THAT WAS THAT DARK BLUE-LINE 2188 01:35:15,480 --> 01:35:17,960 THAT WE SAW IN THE OPENING SLIDE 2189 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,400 AND SO WE'RE APPROACHING ABOUT 2190 01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:22,560 400 MEGAWATTS DEPLOYED PER YEAR 2191 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,960 JUST FOR COMMERCIAL ENERGY 2192 01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:28,640 STORAGE AND THE U.S. 2193 01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:29,560 WE'LL START OVER THE NEXT FIVE 2194 01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,800 YEARS TO SEE THAT MORE THAN 2195 01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,320 DOUBLE. 2196 01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,800 SO, THIS, I'D LIKE TO SAY, HAS 2197 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,360 BEEN COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL WITH 2198 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:42,360 VERY SAVVY FACILITY ENERGY 2199 01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,440 MANAGERS, IS ONE OF THE HARDEST 2200 01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:50,440 CUSTOMERS TO, I GUESS, DEVELOP 2201 01:35:50,440 --> 01:35:53,920 AND HAVE A PRO-FORMA AND A 2202 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,120 REASONABLE BUSINESS CASE. 2203 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:59,320 WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THIS 2204 01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:00,240 UPTICK BECAUSE THOSE SAVVY 2205 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:01,280 CUSTOMERS ARE STARTING TO 2206 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,640 RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S NOT JUST 2207 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:33,440 ONE OR TWO DRIVERS, WHEN IS THAT 2208 01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:35,360 BUSINESS CASE AND PRIMARY DRIVER 2209 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:36,200 HAS BEEN SAVINGS. 2210 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,240 THERE'S AN ENERGY COMPONENT AND 2211 01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,320 A DEMAND COMPONENT. 2212 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:45,040 THE DEMAND COMPONENT CAN BE 2213 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,440 ADDRESSED BY PUTTING IN A 2214 01:36:46,440 --> 01:36:48,360 FLEXIBLE RESOURCES THAT CAN ACT 2215 01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,160 AS A LOAD AND ACT AS A GENERATOR 2216 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,240 AND IT CAN CHARGE AND IT CAN 2217 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:56,400 DISCHARGE TO REALLY SHAVE THOSE 2218 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,040 AND THE BILL. 2219 01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:59,880 IT'S HELPFUL OF A BILL 2220 01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,280 PERSPECTIVE AND IMAGINE DOING 2221 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:02,440 THAT ON ONE BUILDING AND A 2222 01:37:02,440 --> 01:37:03,560 THOUSAND BUILDINGS AND YOU CAN 2223 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,560 SEE SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS. 2224 01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:09,360 THE OTHER THING FROM A LOCAL 2225 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,000 BUILDING PERSPECTIVE, IS BACK UP 2226 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,760 POWER AND SO BACK UP POWER 2227 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:14,840 TRADITIONALLY TODAY IS DONE WITH 2228 01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:18,680 GAS AND DIESEL GENERATOR AND THE 2229 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,840 KIND OF COSTS AND THE DIFFERENT 2230 01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,720 METHODS THAT CAN BE EMPLOYED TO 2231 01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,400 PROVIDE CLEAN, QUIET BACK-UP 2232 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,760 POWER TO THE FACILITY OR A 2233 01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,960 MARSHAL FACILITY GOOD WAYS TO 2234 01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:34,720 OPTIMIZE THIS ASSET TO PROVIDE 2235 01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:35,840 DEMAND CHARGE REDEMPTION AND 2236 01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:40,160 BACK UP POWER AND THAT IS 2237 01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:43,880 IMPORTANT TODAY BECAUSE THERE'S 2238 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,920 A SIGNIFICANT NEED AS WE ARE 2239 01:37:46,920 --> 01:38:36,640 STARTING TO EXPERIENCE SOME PAY 2240 01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:40,480 BACKS AND RAGE AND IF WE LOOK AT 2241 01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:43,320 THAT ACROSS THE WHOLE FLEET AND 2242 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:51,440 HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT ASSETS AND 2243 01:38:51,440 --> 01:39:15,680 NOW WHAT LEVELS CA LEVELS CAN BE TERMED 2244 01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:19,480 AND THE MODELING AND ANALYSIS 2245 01:39:19,480 --> 01:39:23,400 PERSPECTIVE. 2246 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:23,760 NEXT SLIDE? 2247 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:24,480 SO JUST A QUICK NOTE. 2248 01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:28,480 THIS IS A BUSY SLIDE BUT THERE'S 2249 01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:30,040 FOUR LANES AND WHAT WE SAW IN 2250 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:34,240 TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY, COMMERCIAL 2251 01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:35,440 VIABILITY IS REALLY HAPPENING AT 2252 01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:38,280 THE TRANSMISSION, GENERATION, 2253 01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:39,320 DISTRIBUTION AND SUB-STATION 2254 01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:39,520 AREA. 2255 01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:40,760 THAT'S WHERE I SEE THE BIG 2256 01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:44,560 CAPACITY NUMBERS TODAY AND THAT 2257 01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:48,440 TECHNOLOGY IS FUNDAMENTALLY THE 2258 01:39:48,440 --> 01:40:01,640 NAME AND THE VALUE THAT CAN BE 2259 01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,400 OPTIMIZED AND OBTAINED IS GOING 2260 01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:06,360 TO INCREASE AS YOU GET CLOSER 2261 01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:12,320 AND CLOSER TO THE LOAD SOURCE IN 2262 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:13,840 OTHER WORDS YOU CAN NIP IT IN 2263 01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,080 THE BUD IF YOU DROP THE BATTERY 2264 01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:16,440 AND SOLVE FOR LOCAL RENEWABLES 2265 01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:21,200 AND YOU CAN SOLVE FOR ELECTRIC 2266 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:25,360 VEHICLE ET CETERA AND TAP INTO A 2267 01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,000 LARGER SET OF VALUE STREAMS. 2268 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:32,280 THIS IS NOT EXHAUSTING LIST BUT 2269 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:39,640 A GOOD GUIDELINE. 2270 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:43,160 SO, WE HAVE AN IMAGE WHERE I'M 2271 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:44,880 LOCATED IN DENVER COLORADO 2272 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,040 FEDERAL BUILDING AND 2273 01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:48,520 HISTORICALLY WE LOOK AT BUILDING 2274 01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:50,960 AND HOW WE CAN OPTIMIZE ENERGY 2275 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:52,480 EFFICIENCY WITH LIGHTING AND 2276 01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:54,880 RETRO FITS AND HVAC IMPROVEMENTS 2277 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:56,800 MOVING TO HEAT PUMPS THROUGH HOT 2278 01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:58,560 WATER HEATING AND ADDING 2279 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,240 CONTROLLABLE LOADS AND ALL OF 2280 01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:08,000 THESE ARE FUNDAMENTAL WITH 2281 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,560 SAVING THE COSTS WITH A BUILDING 2282 01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,400 AND ACROSS MANY. 2283 01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:13,880 ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE 2284 01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:16,440 SIGNIFICANT MARKET 2285 01:41:16,440 --> 01:41:18,280 TRANSFORMATION HAPPENING AND 2286 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,160 THERE'S A LOT OF WIND REELING IN 2287 01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,920 FROM SO SOLAR AS WE TALKED 2288 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:24,240 ABOUT? 2289 01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:29,880 THE SOUTHWEST, ET CETERA AND 2290 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:31,680 THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED WITH 2291 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:37,360 OTHER ELECTRIFICATION ASPECTS 2292 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:41,440 LIKE AT THIS FACILITY AND MAYBE 2293 01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:44,520 LARGER FLEETS THAT NEED TO BE 2294 01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:45,640 SUPPORTIVE AND AND WHAT YOU SEE 2295 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,280 ON THE TOP RIGHT WITH THE 2296 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:51,880 FLEXIBLE RESOURCE LIKE ENERGY 2297 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:57,560 STORAGE IT'S A BUFFER AND WITH 2298 01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,240 THE GENERATION THROUGH MOBILE 2299 01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,640 AND THEY CAN SUPPORT AND NEW 2300 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:06,440 LOAD GROWTH THROUGH ELECTRIC 2301 01:42:06,440 --> 01:42:09,920 VEHICLES, FLEETS, ET CETERA. 2302 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:11,960 THERE ARE TOOLS THAT WILL BE 2303 01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:13,720 USED BY EVERYBODY ON THIS CALL 2304 01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,440 AND NOT ON THIS CALL TODAY, 2305 01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:17,560 AVAILABLE, FREE, TOOLS SO YOU 2306 01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:21,440 CAN START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT 2307 01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:26,240 BUILDINGS CAN PROVIDE VALUE AND 2308 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,640 HOW ENERGY BE OPTIMIZED TO 2309 01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,840 SUPPORT YOUR PORTFOLIO 2310 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:34,120 BUILDINGS. 2311 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,360 >> KEEPING TO YOUR TIME. 2312 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:36,440 VERY WELL DONE. 2313 01:42:36,440 --> 01:42:38,600 >> KEN, CAN I INTERRUPT ONE 2314 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:39,280 SECOND, PLEASE. 2315 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,320 I JUST REALIZED, I WANT TO SEND 2316 01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,880 A REMINDER TO EVERYONE THAT IF 2317 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:45,040 YOU HAVE A QUESTION, THERE'S A 2318 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:48,800 LINK AT BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN. 2319 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:50,240 YOU MAY NEED TO SCROLL DOWN. 2320 01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:51,680 SEND YOUR QUESTIONS AS THEY COME 2321 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,160 UP IN YOUR MIND AND WE'LL BE 2322 01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:54,560 GETTING TO THOSE AT END. 2323 01:42:54,560 --> 01:43:01,040 FEEL FREE TO SEND THOSE 2324 01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,720 QUESTIONS. 2325 01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,360 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER. 2326 01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,760 AS NICK SAID, THERE'S A RANGE OF 2327 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,240 STORED SOLUTIONS FROM THE GRID 2328 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:18,440 TO THE BUILDING SIDE AND NEXT 2329 01:43:18,440 --> 01:43:23,360 WE'LL HEAR FROM DAVID WHO HELPED 2330 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,160 LEAD THAT TEAM LOOKING AT THE 2331 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,760 ISSUE OF STORAGE IN FEDERAL 2332 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:28,840 FACILITIES FOR THE BUILDING 2333 01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:30,560 ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 2334 01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:30,960 ALL YOURS, DAVID. 2335 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:32,080 >> THANK YOU, KEN. 2336 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:41,840 I'M JUST GOING TO REDO THE MAIN 2337 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:42,040 POINTS. 2338 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:43,600 THIS IS OUR COMMITTEE THE 2339 01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,480 ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 2340 01:43:46,480 --> 01:43:46,960 NEXT SLIDE. 2341 01:43:46,960 --> 01:44:04,800 THESE ARE THE PARTICIPANTS THE 2342 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,800 COST OF BATTERIES HAS BEEN 2343 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:07,960 FALLING DRAMATICALLY AND WE 2344 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:12,520 UNTIL THENOTICED THEY'RE STARTING TO BE 2345 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,040 DEPLOYED AS ENERGY STORAGE MANY 2346 01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,040 OF SIMILAR TO PV15 YEARS AGO THE 2347 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,280 COST FELL DRAMATICALLY AND YOU 2348 01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:22,640 ARE SEEING THEM USED ON 2349 01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:27,840 BUILDINGS SO, THE AFFECT GROUP 2350 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:32,640 PUT TOGETHER OUR THOUGHTS ON 2351 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,400 WHAT SHOULD WE DO SO WE DECIDED 2352 01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,240 TO STUDY THIS AND SEE WHAT THE 2353 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,800 BENEFITS ARE AND IF IT LOOKS 2354 01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:43,680 GOOD THEN TO LOOK AT FINANCING 2355 01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:49,880 OPTIONS AND DEVELOP 2356 01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,200 RECOMMENDATIONS SO OUR FINDINGS 2357 01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:57,600 WERE, NEXT SLIDE, THE FIRST 2358 01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,040 THING IS NICK TALKED ABOUT 2359 01:44:59,040 --> 01:44:59,920 RENEWABLES ARE BECOMING MORE AND 2360 01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:03,480 MORE COMMON. 2361 01:45:03,480 --> 01:45:05,640 WE HAVE THIS DRIVE TO 2362 01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,360 DECARBONIZE THE GRID BUT 2363 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:09,840 COMMERCIALLY WITH THE VERY KIND 2364 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:14,040 OF TIME-SENSITIVE SO YOU GET 2365 01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:21,080 LOTS OF RENEWABLE IN THE SO YOU 2366 01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:22,800 NEED TO TAKE THE EXCESS ENERGY 2367 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,240 THAT YOU ARE GENERATING AND 2368 01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:29,240 STORING IT AND USING IT LATER ON 2369 01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:32,840 IN THE DAY WHEN BUILDINGS NEED 2370 01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:34,680 IT BUT THERE'S NO RENEWABLES 2371 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,720 AVAILABLE. 2372 01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:43,240 NEXT SLIDE. 2373 01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:44,360 WE FOUND THREE TECHNOLOGIES AND 2374 01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:53,360 I WANT TO COVER TWO OTHERS ONE 2375 01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:54,120 QUICKLY. 2376 01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:55,040 ONE IS BILLED WATER STORAGE AND 2377 01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,320 IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND 2378 01:45:56,320 --> 01:46:00,320 STILL IN USE TODAY. 2379 01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:04,680 SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MADE CHILD 2380 01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,000 WATER FROM CARBON ON THE GRID IS 2381 01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,360 SLOW AND STORE IT AND USE IT 2382 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:08,840 LATER ON IN THE DAY WHEN CARBON 2383 01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,440 ON THE GRID IS HIGHER AND IT'S 2384 01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:14,520 ACTUALLY A VERY LOW COST 2385 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,360 SOLUTION AND THE DOWNSIDE IS IT 2386 01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:20,360 TAKES UP LOTS OF SPACE AND ONE 2387 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,040 OF THE ADVANTAGES IS WHEN YOU DO 2388 01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,040 THAT, THERE'S NO IMPACT ON 2389 01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:25,440 THERMAL COMFORT IN THE BUILDING 2390 01:46:25,440 --> 01:46:28,600 AND IN THE BUILDING AND ANYTHING 2391 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,880 LIKE THAT AND THIS IS A PROJECT 2392 01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:37,600 IT'S MICROSOFT'S CAMPUS AND THE 2393 01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,680 THERE'S BLUE TANKS ON THE ONLY 2394 01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:41,400 HA CHILD WATER STORAGE TANKS SO 2395 01:46:41,400 --> 01:47:06,640 IT TAKES SPACE AND AND YOU HAVE 2396 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,640 OR PUTTING LARGER TANKS INTO 2397 01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:15,520 OVER SIDE TANKS TO STORE EXCESS 2398 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:21,840 ENERGY AND THIS IS BRAND NEW 2399 01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:23,040 TECHNOLOGY FOR DOMESTIC HOT 2400 01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:23,480 WATER. 2401 01:47:23,480 --> 01:47:26,120 THE DOWNSIDE, I HAVEN'T SEEN 2402 01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:30,200 LOTS OF REAL FIFTH LARGE STORAGE 2403 01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:34,240 TANKS AND THE INTERESTING THING 2404 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,400 IS BTL IS PARTNERING WITH THE 2405 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:43,040 ADVANCE WATER HEATERS 2406 01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:47,040 INITIATIVES TO TAKE SNAPS TO 2407 01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:48,600 SUPPORT UTILITIES BY MAKING HOT 2408 01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,720 WATER AT TIMES WHEN IT'S 2409 01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:55,240 ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE GRID. 2410 01:47:55,240 --> 01:48:00,320 SO BY FAR, THE LARGEST GROWING 2411 01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,240 AND MOST VERSATILE AND FOR US 2412 01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:04,400 MOST INTERESTING STORAGE 2413 01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,280 TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT 2414 01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:12,560 WAS LITHYUM EYE O EYE ION BATTERIES AND 2415 01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,440 THE SCALE FROM A SOLAR 2416 01:48:14,440 --> 01:48:15,480 CALCULATOR TO A RESIDENTS ALL 2417 01:48:15,480 --> 01:48:27,160 THE WAY UP TO UTILITY SCALE AND 2418 01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,680 THEY CAN DIRECTLY REDUCE YOUR 2419 01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:31,440 ENERGY BILL THROUGH AS NICK WAS 2420 01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:38,360 SAYING, DEMAND AND TIME OF USE 2421 01:48:38,360 --> 01:49:13,240 CHARGES. 2422 01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:28,280 WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS YOU COULD 2423 01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:29,960 SEE A COUPLE DAYS IT WAS CLOUDY 2424 01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,040 AND YOU COULDN'T FULLY CHARGE 2425 01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:32,640 THE BATTERY AND IT STARTED 2426 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:34,640 RUNNING DOWN BUT THEY MANAGED TO 2427 01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:35,520 GET THROUGH THE WHOLE MONTH 2428 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,560 WITHOUT LOSING POWER SO, YOU 2429 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,440 KNOW, THAT COULD ELIMINATE OR AT 2430 01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:41,320 LEAST REDUCE THE NEED FOR FOSSIL 2431 01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,640 FUEL GENERATOR IN A SITUATION 2432 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,360 LIKE THAT. 2433 01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:48,960 SO, WE ALSO WANTED TO LOOK AT 2434 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:53,320 KIND OF WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS OR 2435 01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:56,640 THINGS THAT ARE CONCERNS WITH 2436 01:49:56,640 --> 01:50:01,640 LITHIUM EYE O EYE IO BATTERY. 2437 01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:03,520 WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT FIRE 2438 01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:04,000 SAFETY. 2439 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:05,440 IT COMES UP QUITE A BIT WHEN WE 2440 01:50:05,440 --> 01:50:06,160 LOOK AT THIS. 2441 01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:10,040 AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE'S NEW 2442 01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:14,240 CODES COMING OUT THAT ARE 2443 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,240 ADDRESS NORTH ISSUE AND IT'S 2444 01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:17,400 SIMILAR TO PHOTOS WHEN THEY CAME 2445 01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,840 OUT WITH LOTS OF CONCERNS 2446 01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:27,440 RELATED TO FIRE ISSUES AND HOW 2447 01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:40,360 FIREMEN IT'S SIMILAR FOR LITHIUM LITHIUM 2448 01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:41,640 ION BATTERIES AND THEY HAVE A 2449 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:45,040 CLEACHAIN REACTION THAT CAUSE A 2450 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:45,880 RUN-AWAY FIRE THAT IS DIFFICULT 2451 01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:47,040 TO PUT OUT. 2452 01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:48,120 ANOTHER CONCERN IS WHAT DO YOU 2453 01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:49,280 DO AT END-OF-LIFE? 2454 01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:55,160 I GET ASKED THAT QUITE A BIT AND 2455 01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:56,880 THERE'S STARTING TO BE A 2456 01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:58,200 RECYCLING INDUSTRY BUT THAT'S 2457 01:50:58,200 --> 01:50:59,640 PRETTY NEW AND THERE'S A NEW 2458 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:01,320 FACTORY THAT WAS PUT UP IN 2459 01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:06,480 CARSON CITY CLOSE TO THE TESLA 2460 01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:08,320 MEGA FACTORY IN NEVADA AND 2461 01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:11,400 ANOTHER ONE BEING PUT UP IN 2462 01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,440 UPSTATE NEW YORK SO THAT 2463 01:51:14,440 --> 01:51:15,640 INDUSTRY IS STARTING TO BE 2464 01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:17,160 ESTABLISHED BUT IT'S GRAND NEW 2465 01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:23,080 AND THE LAST CONCERN WAS WHERE 2466 01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:24,640 DOES THE LAW MATERIALS COME FROM 2467 01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,000 AND A LOT OF COMING FROM CHILE 2468 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:33,240 AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT PEOPLE 2469 01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,200 ARE LOOKING FOR OTHER SOURCES SO 2470 01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:36,480 HOPEFULLY THEY'LL FIND OTHER 2471 01:51:36,480 --> 01:51:36,720 SOURCES. 2472 01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,760 I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THEY ARE 2473 01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,040 LOOKING AT A SOURCE IN 2474 01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:47,280 CALIFORNIA ACTUALLY FOR LITHIUM. 2475 01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:51,720 SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU DO 2476 01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:56,400 WITH THESE APPLICATIONS. 2477 01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,920 WHAT ARE THE USES. 2478 01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:02,400 UTILITY BILL IS A KEY ONE. 2479 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,240 THEY PROVIDE STAND-BY POWER. 2480 01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,080 THE MILITARY IS USING THEM FOR 2481 01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:08,280 ENERGY SECURITY. 2482 01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,120 ALEX IS TALKING ABOUT HIS 2483 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,600 PROJECT BUT HIS FIRM HAS DONE 2484 01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:16,040 PROJECTS AT MILITARY BASES THAT 2485 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:20,680 ALLOW SYSTEMS TO ISLAND AND RUN 2486 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:31,400 OFF GRID AND OUTAGES AND NATURAL 2487 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,800 DISASTER SO, THAT IMAGE IN THE 2488 01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:34,440 MIDDLE IS A COMMUNITY CENTER IN 2489 01:52:34,440 --> 01:52:35,960 CALIFORNIA THAT IS UNDER 2490 01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:38,200 CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AND IT'S 2491 01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,760 BEEN DESIGNED TO BE A DISASTER 2492 01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,520 RECOVERY CENTER SO YOU CAN HAVE 2493 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:46,840 A MAJOR EVENT AND BE ABLE TOLL 2494 01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:48,680 RUN THIS BUILDING INDEPENDENTLY 2495 01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:53,440 AND PROVIDE FOOD, SHOWERS, 2496 01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:56,240 HOUSING FOR DISPLACED RESIDENTS 2497 01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:57,040 ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 2498 01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,720 IT'S A COMMAND CENTER FOR THE 2499 01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,240 POLICE AND FOR EMERGENCY 2500 01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:03,320 MEDICAL, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 2501 01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,080 AND THE LAST ONE, THIS IS QUITE 2502 01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:09,080 INTERESTING IS AVOIDING 2503 01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:10,400 INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES AND 2504 01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:11,800 WE'RE USE PARTICULAR IN A COUPLE 2505 01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,400 OF APPLICATIONS BUT THIS IMAGE 2506 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:18,040 OPT BOTTOM IS A PROJECT THAT WAS 2507 01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:22,280 DONE IN HAWAII THAT I WORKED ON 2508 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:25,240 THAT WAS FOR THE SCHOOL 2509 01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:26,640 DISTRICTS IN HAWAII AND THEY 2510 01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:27,760 NEEDED TO PUT AIR CONDITIONING 2511 01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,080 IN AND THE BUILDINGS WERE HAVING 2512 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:34,560 IMPACTS FROM CLIMATE CHANGE AND 2513 01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:35,640 HAVE HEAT WAVES AND THEIR GRIDS 2514 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,400 JUST COULDN'T TAKE THAT EXTRA 2515 01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,600 DEMAND FOR ENERGY AND SO A 2516 01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:44,520 CHEAPER SOLUTION ENDED UP BEING 2517 01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:49,080 PUTTING BATTERIES CLOSE TO THE 2518 01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:50,400 CLASSROOM SO IT'S EXACTLY WHAT 2519 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:54,680 NICK WAS TALKING ABOUT AND YOU 2520 01:53:54,680 --> 01:54:08,160 KNOW, THE SO ENERGY BILL 2521 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:10,640 REDUCTION AND GRID SUPPORT AND 2522 01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,440 THE ABILITY TO IMPACT AND REDUCE 2523 01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:15,760 CARBON EMISSION AND RESILIENCE 2524 01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,440 AND OF COURSE, ONE THING I THINK 2525 01:54:17,440 --> 01:54:20,800 THAT IS IMPORTANT IS FOR THE 2526 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,720 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SHOW 2527 01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:24,960 LEADERSHIP IN SHOWING US WHERE 2528 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,000 WE SHOULD WE BE GOING IN THE 2529 01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,720 FUTURE AND SOME OF THE 2530 01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:32,840 CHALLENGES OF THESE SYMPTOMS IS 2531 01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,880 BOY YOU CAN RUN DELAYS IN THE 2532 01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:37,760 PLANNING PROCESS AND LOCAL 2533 01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:38,440 PLANNERS, ET CETERA AND THEY'RE 2534 01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:40,840 NOT USED TO SEE BATTERIES AND 2535 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,240 BUILDINGS AND I'VE HAD PERSONAL 2536 01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:43,360 EXPERIENCE WITH FIRE MARSHALS 2537 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,000 AND PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE WHOA, 2538 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:49,280 WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, LET'S TALK 2539 01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,840 ABOUT THIS AND AS FAR AS 2540 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:53,400 INCENTIVES AND POLICIES IT'S 2541 01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,240 VERY INCONSISTENT AND CITY TO 2542 01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,480 CITY AND STATE TO STATE AND OF 2543 01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,240 COURSE, ANY CONTROL SYSTEMS THAT 2544 01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,680 HAS CONCERNS ABOUT CYBER 2545 01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:05,280 SECURITY AND THESE SYSTEMS HAVE 2546 01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:08,960 SOPHISTICATED CONTROLS. 2547 01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:12,680 NEXT SLIDE. 2548 01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:14,080 ONE ISSUE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT 2549 01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:15,600 IS PROCUREMENT. 2550 01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,240 THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE 2551 01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:22,200 SO THIS IS A LIST THAT THE TEAM 2552 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,320 CAME UP WITH OF DIFFERENT WEIGHS 2553 01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:29,960 THEY CAN PROCURE THESE SYSTEMS 2554 01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:31,360 AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT 2555 01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:34,400 THEM. 2556 01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,280 NEXT SLIDE. 2557 01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,320 WHAT WERE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. 2558 01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:41,320 ONE IS TO CONSIDER ENERGY 2559 01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:45,040 STORAGE ON THE PROJECTS GOING 2560 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:50,280 FORWARD AND ANOTHER WAS A 2561 01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:51,840 ROADMAP TO HELP GSA STAFF 2562 01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,800 DEVELOP A STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS 2563 01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:55,800 OF HOW YOU ANALYZE AND MAKE 2564 01:55:55,800 --> 01:56:02,040 THOSE DECISIONS OF WHETHER OR 2565 01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:03,920 NOT IT MAKES SENSE TO ENERGY 2566 01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:05,240 STORE ON A PROJECT. 2567 01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:06,760 THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION WAS TO 2568 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:10,080 LOOK FURTHER INTO THE NON 2569 01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:11,520 FINANCIAL BENEFITS SUCH AS 2570 01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:18,480 DISASTER RECOVERY OR TO GET A 2571 01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,840 BETTER HANDLE ON THAT AND 2572 01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:23,880 ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR 2573 01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:28,320 CASE STUDIES AS SUCCESSFUL 2574 01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:34,240 PROJECTS TO WHAT WERE THE 2575 01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:36,840 LESSONS LEARNED AND ANOTHER 2576 01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,360 SUPPORT THE RECYCLING INDUSTRY 2577 01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:43,240 TO TRACK BATTERY EVOLUTION 2578 01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:44,800 YESTERDAY I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM 2579 01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,480 SOMEONE I KNOW THAT SAID TESLA 2580 01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,760 SOMEONE HAD COME OUT RETROFITTED 2581 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:57,760 A TESLA CAR THAT DOUBLED THE RANGE 2582 01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,440 OF THE CAR SO THERE'S BATTERY 2583 01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:03,520 TECHNOLOGY COMING OUT ALL THE 2584 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:03,800 TIME. 2585 01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,880 THIS LAST SLIDE IS JUST CASE 2586 01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,040 STUDIES THAT ARE IN THE ADVICE 2587 01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,120 LETTER SO YOU CAN LOOK AT ADVICE 2588 01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:11,560 LETTER AND IF YOU WANTED YOU 2589 01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,680 CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT SOME OF 2590 01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:14,640 THESE MICRO GRIDS THAT HAVE 2591 01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:19,880 ALREADY BEEN DONE. 2592 01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:20,400 THAT'S IT. 2593 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:20,760 THANK YOU. 2594 01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:26,800 >> THAT'S THE PERFECT SEGWAY 2595 01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:28,200 BECAUSE WE DID NOT FIND A LOT OF 2596 01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:31,120 CASES OF BATTERY STORAGE IN 2597 01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:32,800 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 2598 01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:34,600 MORE IN DoD. 2599 01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,920 VERY FEW ON THE CIVILIAN SIDE SO 2600 01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:38,760 WE HAD A NICE CASE STUDY ON ONE 2601 01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:39,920 OF THEM AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE 2602 01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,640 ABOUT TO HEAR FROM ALEX. 2603 01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:46,920 ANY TIME YOU ARE READY, ALEX. 2604 01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:48,000 >> ALL RIGHT. 2605 01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:49,440 SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 2606 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:51,560 BATTERY SYSTEM WE PUT IN THE 2607 01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,200 SHORT THOROUGH BUILDING AND 2608 01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:55,520 COURTHOUSE IN SAN DIEGO, 2609 01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:56,000 CALIFORNIA. 2610 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:59,560 THIS WAS DONE AS PART OF AN ESPC 2611 01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:01,400 PROJECT AND IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2612 01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,240 2015 AND 2016 AND THIS BATTERY 2613 01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:10,520 WAS OPERATIONAL IN JANUARY OF 2614 01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:10,760 2018. 2615 01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,320 SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A 2616 01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:13,760 OVERVIEW CASE STUDY AND 2617 01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:14,920 PERFORMANCE UPDATE ON THE 2618 01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:16,840 BATTERY AND HOW IT SUPPORTS GSA 2619 01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:22,400 NOW AND POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE. 2620 01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:27,240 SO THIS IS A 750-KILOWATT 2621 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:32,920 BATTERY, 1425KWT AND LITHIUM ION 2622 01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:35,360 THIS WAS THE FIRST GENERATION 2623 01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:36,160 POWER PACK. 2624 01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:37,560 WE BEGAN COMMERCIAL OPERATION IN 2625 01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,000 JANUARY OF 2018 AFTER A COUPLE 2626 01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,440 OF YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT AND 2627 01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:42,040 CONSTRUCTION. 2628 01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:43,640 IT'S PART OF THE REGION WIDE 2629 01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,000 ESPC PROJECT AND THIS IS JUST 2630 01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:51,440 ONE OF ALMOST 50ECMs AS PART 2631 01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,240 OF THIS PROJECT OBJECT ON THE 2632 01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:54,240 FEDERAL BUILDINGS THROUGH OUT 2633 01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:56,800 THE SOUTHWEST. 2634 01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:00,640 THIS BEST IS BATTERY RESTORE AGE 2635 01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:02,480 SYSTEM IS RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST 2636 01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:07,400 FOR DEMAND REDUCTION SO COST 2637 01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:08,960 SAVINGS ON THE DEMAND THAT CUTS 2638 01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:15,640 THE BUILDING'S PEAK CUTS IT AT 2639 01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:33,520 NIGHT WHEN THE POWER IS CHEAPER. 2640 01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:35,520 WE CHARGED THE BATTERY WHEN IT'S 2641 01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,520 CHEAPER AND DISCHARGED THE 2642 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:39,280 BATTERY WHEN THE POWER IS 2643 01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:39,560 EXPENSIVE. 2644 01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:40,840 TRYING TO EVEN OUT THE PEAK. 2645 01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:41,680 THIS PARTICULAR PHOTO REALLY 2646 01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:44,640 DIDN'T HAVE A VERY PEAKY LOAD TO 2647 01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:49,360 ACTUALLY HAD TO UP SIZSIZE THE 2648 01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:51,600 BATTERY KILOWATT HOUR TO GET THE 2649 01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:52,880 SAME DEMAND REDUCTION AND I'LL 2650 01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:54,600 SHOW ON THE GRAPH. 2651 01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,600 IT CONSISTS OF DC BATTERY PACKS, 2652 01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:59,840 THE INVERTER POWER CONDITIONING 2653 01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:01,040 SYSTEM AND A SITE MASTER 2654 02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:04,800 CONTROLLER AND THIS CONTROL SER 2655 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,720 WHAT IS HART AND READS THE 2656 02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:09,120 ENERGY OF THE BUILDING AND 2657 02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,960 TRACKS THE BUILDING AND READS 2658 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:22,360 THE WEATHER AND AND ALL THAT HAD 2659 02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:25,240 TO BE VETTED THROUGH GSA TO 2660 02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:26,240 VALIDATE CYBER SECURITY BECAUSE 2661 02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:27,320 IT'S GETTING INFORMATION FROM 2662 02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:28,560 THE BUILDING AND THE BUILDING'S 2663 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:29,720 ELECTRICAL USAGE AND THAT IS 2664 02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:33,000 BEING SENT OUT TO THE THIRD 2665 02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:34,440 PARTY TO DO THE TROLLS ON THE 2666 02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,440 BATTERY AND ALL OF THIS, THE 2667 02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:38,880 BATTERY PACKAGE HAVE A 2668 02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:39,640 INTEGRATED LIQUID THERMAL 2669 02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:46,840 MANAGEMENT KEEP THEM COOL AND 2670 02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:47,320 RUNNING. 2671 02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,280 SO, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES HERE, 2672 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:51,480 THIS WAS BEING DEVELOPED IN 2015 2673 02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:56,480 AND 2016 WHICH IS FAIRLY EARLY 2674 02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:58,960 AS FAR AS BUILDING FIRST STEP 2675 02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:00,880 WAS INTEGRATION WITH SDG&E WITH 2676 02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:02,200 UTILITY AND THIS IS INSTALLED 2677 02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:05,760 BEHIND THE METER AND ALL ON GSA 2678 02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:09,640 SIDE OF THE METER AND WE INSTALL 2679 02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:12,360 NEW UTILITY GRADE METERING TO 2680 02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,160 MONITOR THE DAILY BATTERY STATUS 2681 02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:16,200 BECAUSE THIS BEING PART OF AN 2682 02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:17,840 ESPC THE SAVINGS ARE GUARANTEED 2683 02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:20,280 AND WE HAVE TO READ THIS AND 2684 02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,320 PRESENT QUARTERLY REPORTS. 2685 02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:25,800 I TALKED ABOUT THE PROGRAM 2686 02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:28,040 CONTROL SYSTEM ON THE BATTERY SO 2687 02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:31,160 WE HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE 2688 02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:32,560 SDG&E TO MAKE SURE IF RATE 2689 02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:33,960 STRUCTURE CHANGES IN THE PROGRAM 2690 02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:36,720 TO KNOW THE CURRENT RATE 2691 02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:37,680 STRUCTURE AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 2692 02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:41,120 A EXISTING TIME OF USE RATE AND 2693 02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:43,840 WORKING CLOSELY WITH UTILITY WAS 2694 02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:45,920 KEY HERE. 2695 02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:48,080 THE SDG&E WAS GOOD TO WORK WITH 2696 02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:49,120 IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. 2697 02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:50,760 ONE THING TO NOTE IS THE 2698 02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:51,960 COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM IS NOT ON 2699 02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:54,320 THE GSA'S NETWORK AND IT WOULD 2700 02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:57,600 HAVE COMPLICATED THE CYBER 2701 02:01:57,600 --> 02:01:58,360 SECURITY PORTION OF THE THIS 2702 02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:00,440 EVENING FURTHER AND IT JUST 2703 02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:01,680 WASN'T NEEDED SO COMMUNICATE 2704 02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:05,040 USING A 4G CELLULAR MODEM READS 2705 02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:05,840 THE ELECTRIC DATA FROM THE 2706 02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:07,320 BUILDING AND SENDS THAT OUT 2707 02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:09,440 USING A 4G MODEM AND THAT WAS 2708 02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:12,000 STILL VETTED THROUGH IT SECURITY 2709 02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,040 AND TESLA SIGNED A REMEDIATION 2710 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:15,240 AGREEMENT ON THEIR SOFTWARE ON 2711 02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:17,040 THIS BATTERY PACKAGE SO IT'S 2712 02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:23,840 SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR 2713 02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,000 TESLA AND ESPECIALLY MILITARY 2714 02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:29,840 THE CYBER SECURITY CAN BE 2715 02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:31,960 CRITICAL AND IT'S A CRITICAL 2716 02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:35,160 COMPONENT. 2717 02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:38,320 NEXT SLIDE. 2718 02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,440 THIS IS INSTALLED AND WE HAD TO 2719 02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:42,000 CUSTOM CONFIGURE THIS TO FIT IN 2720 02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:43,760 THE COURT YARD SPACE AVAILABLE 2721 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:45,800 THIS BEING IN DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO 2722 02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:50,320 SPACES AT A PREMIUM AND MANY OF 2723 02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:52,360 THE BATTERY SYSTEMS ARE 2724 02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:53,760 CONFIGURE ABLE IN DIFFERENT 2725 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:55,280 CUSTOM SHAPES AND SOME DO COME 2726 02:02:55,280 --> 02:03:00,840 IN BOXES AND IT'S IMPROVING 2727 02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:02,520 WHERE WE CAN CUSTOM FIT 2728 02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:06,240 BATTERIES WHERE THEY CAN FIT. 2729 02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:08,480 NEXT SLIDE. 2730 02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:12,640 AS FAR AS THE SAVINGS FOR THIS 2731 02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:13,840 BATTERY, THIS WAS OUR FIRST 2732 02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:15,040 BUILDING BATTERY BESIDES A FEW 2733 02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:17,440 TEST PROJECTS SO WE CAME UP WITH 2734 02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:20,840 A TOOL TO QUANTIFY THE SAVINGS. 2735 02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:24,720 AND FIX THE 15-MINUTE HISTORICAL 2736 02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:25,880 INTERVAL DATA LOOKING AT WHAT 2737 02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:28,160 THE BATTERY CAN DO AND WE HAVE A 2738 02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:29,560 PROGRAM THAT CALCULATES THE 2739 02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:31,440 MONTHLY SAVINGS TO BE EXPECTED 2740 02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:34,320 AND SO FOR WE'VE BEEN RIGHT ON 2741 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:35,840 AND THESE GRAPHS BELOW US SHOW 2742 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:37,440 USING THIS PROGRAM TO HELP SIZE 2743 02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:41,640 THE BATTERY, CAN SEE ON THE LEFT 2744 02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:43,240 THAT WOULD BE IT WAS 2745 02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:45,600 PARTICULARLY PEAKY AND THEY HAD 2746 02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:47,840 SOME PEAKS COOLING LOADS IN THE 2747 02:03:47,840 --> 02:04:04,240 AFTERNOON AND IF THAT WAS A TO 2748 02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:09,040 GET SAVINGS WE NEEDED 2749 02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:10,000 1400-KILOWATT HOURS SO AGE 2750 02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,120 BECAUSE THE LOAD WAS NOT PEAKY, 2751 02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:13,040 APPROXIMATE PEAKED IN THE 2752 02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:14,120 MORNING AND REAL SEE HUNG IN 2753 02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:15,560 THERE NEAR THE PEAK ALL 2754 02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:18,240 AFTERNOON FOR COOLING AND SO 2755 02:04:18,240 --> 02:04:20,160 IT'S A CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THIS 2756 02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:22,200 OVER MULTIPLE YEARS OF INTERVAL 2757 02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:29,680 DATA IS IDEAL AS FAR AS SIZING 2758 02:04:29,680 --> 02:04:31,120 THE CORRECT BATTERY. 2759 02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:33,160 OPERATION OF MAINTENANCE IS 2760 02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:34,440 ANOTHER CRITICAL PART OF 2761 02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:34,840 BATTERY. 2762 02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:38,280 THEY'RE NOT HIGH MAINTENANCE 2763 02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:42,520 SYSTEMS BUT WE'RE PROVIDING THE 2764 02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:45,440 O AND M PAIN TINNANCE FOR 25 2765 02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:49,040 YEARS AND INCLUDES ANNUAL WE'RE 2766 02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:51,760 GOING TO REFILL AND REPLACE THE 2767 02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:56,520 REFRIGERANTS AND THE COOLING AND 2768 02:04:56,520 --> 02:04:58,640 WE PLAN TO REPLACE THE BATTERY 2769 02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:00,760 CELL START NORTH YEAR 11 TO 2770 02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:01,920 MAINTAIN CAPACITY FORT LIFE OF 2771 02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:03,480 CONTRACT AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR 2772 02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:06,640 A GUARANTEED CONTRACT LIKE AN 2773 02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:08,080 ESPC WE LOOK AND MAINTAIN THE 2774 02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:12,760 CAPACITY FOR THE LIFE OF IT AND 2775 02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:15,680 ALSO WE HAVE A FULL M AND V, 2776 02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:18,040 EVERYONE HERE IS FAMILIAR WITH 2777 02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:20,080 THE PROJECTS AND THE SAVINGS ARE 2778 02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:21,720 GUARANTEED SO WE HAVE TO DO A 2779 02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:23,760 MEASUREMENT AND VERIFICATION AND 2780 02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:25,560 THIS WAS OPTION B AND WE ARE 2781 02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:29,440 DIRECTLY MONITORING THE KWH 2782 02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:30,960 OUTPUT OF THIS BATTERY AND 2783 02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:37,280 PRESENT NORTPRESENTING FOR THE FEW YEARS. 2784 02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:38,840 EVERYTHING IS TRENDED AND SHARED 2785 02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:44,320 WITH THE GSA AND THE DATA SHOWS 2786 02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:45,680 HOW MUCH CAPACITY IS DEPLOYED 2787 02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:46,880 AND HOW LONG AND THE NUMBER OF 2788 02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:51,360 TIMES THE BATTERY WAS DEPLOYED. 2789 02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:52,320 NEXT SLIDE. 2790 02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,200 ANOTHER IMPORTANT COMPONENT THAT 2791 02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:56,880 WAS AVAILABLE IN CALIFORNIA AND 2792 02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,040 IN SOME OTHER PARTS ARE UTILITY 2793 02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:00,520 INCENTIVES THAT HELP PAY FOR THE 2794 02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:01,480 BATTERY AND IN CALIFORNIA 2795 02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:04,000 THERE'S THE SELF-GENERATION 2796 02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,240 INCENTIVE PROGRAM SGIP AND THIS 2797 02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:08,680 PROJECT RECEIVED $570,000 IN 2798 02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:10,480 INCENTIVE FUNDING FROM THE STATE 2799 02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:12,240 AND WE HAVE 50% OF THAT UP FRONT 2800 02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:14,920 AND 50% OF THAT IS BEING PAID 2801 02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:16,960 OUT STILL IS OVER THE FIVE YEARS 2802 02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:20,000 AND MONTHLY PAYMENT BASED ON 2803 02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:20,440 PERFORMANCE. 2804 02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,480 IT'S PART OF ESPC AND WE MANAGED 2805 02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:24,160 THAT APPLICATION FOR GSA AND 2806 02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:26,920 THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC 2807 02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:33,720 DRIVER OF ENERGY STORAGE IN 2808 02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:34,640 CALIFORNIA. 2809 02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:36,040 THE STATUS OF INSTALLATION. 2810 02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:38,320 IT'S BEEN GOING SINCE 2811 02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:38,640 JANUARY 2018. 2812 02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:40,800 OVER THROW YEARS AND WE HAVE 2813 02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:42,440 99.8% UP TIME AND WE'RE 2814 02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:44,080 AVERAGING ON THE ON PEAK 2815 02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:45,640 REDUCTION WE'RE AVERAGING A 2816 02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:48,160 DAILY PEAK PRODUCTION OF 1886KW 2817 02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:51,680 WITH ONE REALLY GOOD DAY WE 2818 02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:53,040 SAVED 582KW OF PEAK. 2819 02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:56,240 ON THE NON COINCIDENCE DEMAND 2820 02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:57,720 REDUCTION, THE UTILITY STRUCTURE 2821 02:06:57,720 --> 02:07:00,120 THERE SAY LITTLE DIFFERENT AND 2822 02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:01,640 IT'S TWO PEAK CHARGES. 2823 02:07:01,640 --> 02:07:04,040 WE'RE AVERAGING 214 KW 2824 02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:06,560 PRODUCTION WITH A MAX OF 400KW 2825 02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:08,440 SO THE BATTERY IS PERFORMING 2826 02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:13,240 VERY WELL AND IT REALLY EXCEEDED 2827 02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:13,920 EXPECTATIONS. 2828 02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:18,520 THIS WAS THE JANUARY 24th, 2829 02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:19,640 THIS SHOWS THE DATA. 2830 02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:21,640 THE BLUE-LINE IS THE ACTUAL 2831 02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:26,240 DEMAND DATA THAT WE WERE CHARGED 2832 02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:30,280 FROM SDG&E EX THE BATTERY KEPT 2833 02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:42,480 IT FROM SEEKING AND AT NIGHT THE 2834 02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:51,440 BATTERY IS CHARGEING AND IT'S 2835 02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,480 SMART SAVING A TON OF MONEY ON 2836 02:07:53,480 --> 02:08:00,240 THE DEMAND CHARGES. 2837 02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:04,440 TODAY'S BENEFITS AND THE COST OF 2838 02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:07,640 THE SAVING THE MONEY AND THE 2839 02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:09,720 FUTURE BATTERY AND THIS WAS A 2840 02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:12,320 FAIRLY EARLY ADOPTION ONE ARE 2841 02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:13,840 ADJUSTING TO CHANGING RATE 2842 02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:15,400 TARIFFS SO BEYOND JUST DEMAND, 2843 02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:18,040 IF WE GET INTO USING IT FULL 2844 02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:19,840 TIME OF USE CONSUMPTION RATE THE 2845 02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:21,240 BATTERY CAN HELP WITH THAT AS 2846 02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:21,440 WELL. 2847 02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:23,680 AND THE BATTERY IS ADAPTABLE 2848 02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:26,440 OVER TIME AND ALSO DEMAND 2849 02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:27,240 RESPONSE PROGRAMS. 2850 02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:28,720 THIS BATTERY IS NOT CURRENTLY 2851 02:08:28,720 --> 02:08:31,480 SET UP TO DO DEMAND RESPONSE BUT 2852 02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,400 IF THEY START OFFERING SAY GOOD 2853 02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:35,480 VALUE DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAM, 2854 02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:37,440 WE CAN USE THE BATTERY TO TAKE 2855 02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:39,200 SOME OF THE LOAD ON A CALL FROM 2856 02:08:39,200 --> 02:08:42,640 THE UTILITY TO REDUCE DEMAND 2857 02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:43,000 IMMEDIATELY. 2858 02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:44,280 NOW ALSO IN THE FUTURE THIS 2859 02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:46,400 BATTERY COULD BE ADAPTED TO 2860 02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:48,560 INCLUDE A MICROGRID AND THE 2861 02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:49,680 BUILDING HAS PV ON THE ROOF 2862 02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:50,840 ALREADY THAT WE INSTALLED AS 2863 02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:53,000 PART OF THE ESPC AND WE DO NOT 2864 02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:54,640 HAVE MICROGRID ON THIS PROJECT 2865 02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:56,040 AND THE ECONOMICS DIDN'T SUPPORT 2866 02:08:56,040 --> 02:08:57,800 IT AT THE TIME YEARS AGO BUT IF 2867 02:08:57,800 --> 02:08:59,800 THE FUTURE ANOTHER PHASE OR 2868 02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:01,200 SEPARATELY IF GSA WANTS TO 2869 02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:03,440 INCLUDE A MICROGRID TO HELP WITH 2870 02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:04,720 RESILIENCY AND HELP THE BUILDING 2871 02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:07,880 ISLAND IN A BLACKOUT SCENARIO, 2872 02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:10,680 THIS BATTERY CAN BE ADAPTED TO 2873 02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:13,440 SUPPORT THAT. 2874 02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:14,520 NEXT SLIDE. 2875 02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:16,680 AND I THINK DAVID REALLY COVERED 2876 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:18,360 THIS SLIDE, HOW ENERGY STORAGE 2877 02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:21,520 CAN SUPPORT GSA AND REALLY TALK 2878 02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:24,200 TO COST SAVINGS, RESILIENCY AND 2879 02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:27,320 IT'S A KEY COG IN THE 2880 02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:27,640 OBJECTIVES. 2881 02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:29,440 WE CAN USE BATTERIES TO INSTALL 2882 02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,480 MORE PV AND IT'S NOT THIS SHORT 2883 02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:32,880 CASE IN THIS ONE BUT IN THE 2884 02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:34,080 FUTURE THAT'S HOW THESE REALLY 2885 02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:38,240 ARE GOING TO BE USED IT LOOKS 2886 02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:39,040 LIKE. 2887 02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:40,360 AND THERE ARE FACTORS TO 2888 02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:41,880 CONSIDER ON THIS CASE STUDY IT'S 2889 02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:44,600 NOT OVER STORAGE PROJECT IS THE 2890 02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:44,840 SAME. 2891 02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:46,480 IT TOOK A LOT OF PLANNING 2892 02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:48,640 ANALYSIS TO GET THIS BATTERY TO 2893 02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:51,120 WORK AND TO IDENTIFY THE 2894 02:09:51,120 --> 02:09:56,880 ECONOMICS TO FULL EY FULLY QUANTIFY THE 2895 02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:57,120 SAVINGS. 2896 02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:58,440 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SYSTEM 2897 02:09:58,440 --> 02:09:58,800 LIFE. 2898 02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,800 IT'S IMPORTANT LOOKING AT FULL 2899 02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:03,280 ECONOMICS AND THE COMMUNICATIONS 2900 02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:07,080 AND CONTROL IN CONJUNCTION WITH 2901 02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:08,840 CYBER SECURITY WAS A BIG PART OF 2902 02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:10,280 THIS AND SLOWED DEVELOPMENT DOWN 2903 02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:11,920 SIGNIFICANTLY AND THAT WILL GET 2904 02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:13,760 STREAMLINED AS WE GO FORWARD AND 2905 02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:14,960 AS CODES AND THINGS GET 2906 02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:16,240 UNDERSTOOD BETTER ON BATTERIES 2907 02:10:16,240 --> 02:10:18,120 LIKE THAT LIKE THEY HAVE ON PV 2908 02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:19,400 LIKE DAVID MENTIONED SAME WITH 2909 02:10:19,400 --> 02:10:22,680 THE SAFETY AND SAFETY ASPECTS 2910 02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:24,640 AND MAKING SURE FIRE PROTECTION 2911 02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:25,800 AND SPRINKLERS AND EVERYTHING IS 2912 02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:28,360 NEEDED AND CODES ARE BEING STILL 2913 02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:32,640 FORMED ON BATTERIES FOR THIS. 2914 02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:33,800 LOOKING AT INCENTIVES. 2915 02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:35,440 IT'S A BIG PART OF GETTING THESE 2916 02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,440 TO PAY BACK AND UTILITIES OFFER 2917 02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:39,000 RATE AND INCENTIVES AND SOME 2918 02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:41,800 DON'T IN OTHER PARTS OF THE 2919 02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:43,040 COUNTRY AND AS THINGS MOVE IN 2920 02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:45,440 THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH 2921 02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:47,240 DECARBONIZATION UTILITIES WILL 2922 02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:49,480 GET ON BOARD MORE AND MORE AND 2923 02:10:49,480 --> 02:10:51,520 MAKE BATTERIES A BETTER SCENARIO 2924 02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:54,120 FOR BA PAY BACK AS WELL. 2925 02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:54,800 I THINK THAT'S IT. 2926 02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:59,800 THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. 2927 02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:03,320 THANK YOU TO ALEX AND ALL THE 2928 02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:06,040 PRESENTERS YOU STAYED ON TIME 2929 02:11:06,040 --> 02:11:09,560 AND STAYING CONCISE AND GETTING 2930 02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:11,920 THE INFORMATION OUT. 2931 02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:14,440 SO, I'LL STOP SHARING HERE AND 2932 02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:18,000 AS DIANA SAID, IF PEOPLE HAVE 2933 02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:19,680 QUESTIONS, YOU CAN PRESS THE 2934 02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:28,440 LIVE FEEDBACK BUTTON AND THAT 2935 02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:30,320 WILL SEND T LET ME SEE IF I CAN 2936 02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:34,240 PULL SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS OUT 2937 02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:36,280 AND HOW KENNER GEE MANAGERS WORK 2938 02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:38,640 WITH FACILITY STAKEHOLDERS ON 2939 02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:39,960 INTEGRATING ENERGY STORAGE 2940 02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:41,480 EFFORTS WITH EXITING OR PLANNED 2941 02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:45,600 EPS BACK UP SYSTEMS? 2942 02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:47,320 REFERRING TO THE CARBON PAY BACK 2943 02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:52,680 MORE THAN THE DOLLARS. 2944 02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:58,880 ANYONE WANT TO TACKLE THAT? 2945 02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:02,440 >> NICK ACTUALLY POSTED A 2946 02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:03,240 COMMENT ON THAT. 2947 02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:04,600 I'LL FOLLOW WITH WHAT I SAID. 2948 02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:09,680 >> YEAH, WE BOTH RESPONDED TO 2949 02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:13,720 THIS COMMENT HERE BUT I -- SO I 2950 02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:17,040 THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT TO NOTE 2951 02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:21,640 THAT UPS IS A POWER QUALITY-TYPE 2952 02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:23,520 OF OFFERING AND SO THERE ARE 2953 02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:25,800 MORE COST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO 2954 02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:29,920 ADDRESS POWER QUALITY ISSUES AND 2955 02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:30,600 BUILDINGS. 2956 02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:33,920 IF YOU ARE GOING TO ALREADY DO 2957 02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:36,280 THE MODELING AND THE ANALYSIS AS 2958 02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:38,640 ALEX DID IN SAN DIEGO, ON THE 2959 02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:39,640 SHORTS BUILDING AND YOU 2960 02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:41,360 DETERMINE THATTEN ARE GOOD 2961 02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:48,600 EVENINTHAT ENERGY STORAGE ISGOING TO WORK YOU CAN ADD THAT 2962 02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:50,600 TO THE EQUATION AND NOW IT LOOKS 2963 02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:51,960 A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 2964 02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:56,160 UPS IS VERY SMALL AND VERY QUICK 2965 02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:57,720 REACTING, BIG BATTERIES CAN ALSO 2966 02:12:57,720 --> 02:12:58,920 DO SOMETHING SIMILAR BUT THEY'RE 2967 02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:02,120 NOT SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR 2968 02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:02,400 THAT. 2969 02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:03,800 YOU CAN VALUE AND ADD TO THAT 2970 02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:10,440 AND I REALLY LIKE DAVID, YOUR 2971 02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:12,080 POINT, YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL 2972 02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:18,280 WHEN A CARBON IMPACT PERSPECTIVE 2973 02:13:18,280 --> 02:13:19,920 ARE YOU CHARGING FROM THE 2974 02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:21,400 GENERATING COAL FACILITY DOWN 2975 02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:23,360 THE ROAD AND IF IT IS, THEN THAT 2976 02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:24,440 COULD BE AN ISSUE. 2977 02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:26,440 BUT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WITH ROW 2978 02:13:26,440 --> 02:13:32,040 KNEW ABLRENEWABLE INTEGRATION AND SOLAR 2979 02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:34,280 AT THE FEDERAL FACILITY THEN 2980 02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:35,600 THINGS LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER 2981 02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:38,080 FROM A CARBON IMPACT 2982 02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:38,400 PERSPECTIVE. 2983 02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:41,840 >> LET ME ADD TO THAT. 2984 02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:43,720 SO, IF ASSUMING YOU ARE CHARGING 2985 02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:46,200 FROM THE GRID, IF YOU ARE 2986 02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:49,920 CHARGING FROM NO CARBON AND YOU 2987 02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:50,840 KNOW, THAT'S IT. 2988 02:13:50,840 --> 02:13:52,080 I THINK IF YOU ARE CHARGE 2989 02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:53,000 INTERESTING THE GRID, YOU NEED 2990 02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:58,120 TCHARGING FROMTHE GRID WHERE DID THE ENERG Y 2991 02:13:58,120 --> 02:14:00,280 COME FROM AND WHAT'S THE CARBON 2992 02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:02,160 CONTENT TO THE ENERGY? 2993 02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:03,960 THERE ARE DATA SOURCES OUT 2994 02:14:03,960 --> 02:14:04,320 THERE. 2995 02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:07,320 THE ONE I'M FAMILIAR WITH IS 2996 02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:14,360 NON-PROFIT CALLED WATTTIMA AND 2997 02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:16,720 THEY PUBLISH DATA ON CARBON 2998 02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:20,600 CONTENT ON THE GRID FOR LOCAL, 2999 02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:21,920 YOUR LOCAL GRID AND I THINK I'VE 3000 02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:23,440 GOT MOST OF THE NATION COVERED 3001 02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:27,160 BY NOW AND SO YOU CAN LOOK AT 3002 02:14:27,160 --> 02:14:28,760 YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE NICK SAID, 3003 02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:32,040 IF YOU ARE IN A CARBON-INTENSIVE 3004 02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:34,200 LOCATION, HOW MUCH CARBON THAT 3005 02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:34,600 REPRESENTS. 3006 02:14:34,600 --> 02:14:36,840 AND THEY PUBLISH DATA ON AN 3007 02:14:36,840 --> 02:14:38,840 HOURLY BASIS SO, YOU CAN LOOK AT 3008 02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:40,960 WHEN YOU ARE CHARGING YOUR 3009 02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:43,760 BATTERY, HOW MUCH CARBON THAT 3010 02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:46,400 REPRESENTS, AND VERSUS WHEN YOU 3011 02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:47,800 WOULD HAVE CHARGED OR WHEN YOU 3012 02:14:47,800 --> 02:14:49,600 WOULD HAVE USED THE ENERGY 3013 02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:51,120 ALTERNATIVE WAY AND HOW MUCH 3014 02:14:51,120 --> 02:14:53,240 CARBON WAS IN THAT AND COMPARE 3015 02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:53,960 THE TWO. 3016 02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:55,680 AND THAT IS KIND OF HOW 3017 02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:57,400 TYPICALLY HOW WE DO IT WHEN 3018 02:14:57,400 --> 02:14:59,280 WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO 3019 02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:03,160 ACTUALLY CALCULATE CARBON. 3020 02:15:03,160 --> 02:15:05,400 >> OK. 3021 02:15:05,400 --> 02:15:05,760 THANK YOU. 3022 02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:08,720 WE HAVE A QUESTION AND I THINK 3023 02:15:08,720 --> 02:15:12,400 THIS CAME UP IN THE DISCUSSION, 3024 02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:15,400 ALEX, BUT REFRIGERANTS ARE USED 3025 02:15:15,400 --> 02:15:17,720 IN THE TESLA SYSTEM? 3026 02:15:17,720 --> 02:15:20,840 >> THIS WAS 134A. 3027 02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:22,640 I TOTALLY AM NOT SURE IF THEY'RE 3028 02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:23,480 USING IT CURRENTLY. 3029 02:15:23,480 --> 02:15:25,320 THIS IS KEY SIGNED IN 2016 BUT 3030 02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:27,800 YEAH IT WAS R134A. 3031 02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:29,480 >> OK. 3032 02:15:29,480 --> 02:15:34,480 >> AND IF IT'S A LARGE VOLUME? 3033 02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:43,480 >> LET ME SEE. 3034 02:15:43,480 --> 02:15:44,200 I'M NOT SURE. 3035 02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:46,320 I CAN FIND IT. 3036 02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:49,000 >> OK, WE CAN CHECK. 3037 02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:50,040 >> I'M NOT SURE. 3038 02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:52,760 >> I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT HUGE. 3039 02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:55,360 I TOOK A TOUR, I WAS IN TESLA'S 3040 02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:56,920 HEADQUARTERS A COUPLE YEARS AGO 3041 02:15:56,920 --> 02:16:01,600 AND THEY WERE SHOWING ME THIS 3042 02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:04,640 SYSTEM AND YOU KNOW, I THINK 3043 02:16:04,640 --> 02:16:07,400 LIKE THEIR CARS, THEY DON'T HAVE 3044 02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:08,960 HUGE RADIATORS AND STUFF LIKE 3045 02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:15,320 THAT AND SYSTEMS. 3046 02:16:15,320 --> 02:16:17,360 THE LIQUID COOLING SYSTEM WAS 3047 02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:18,640 LIKE BIG PIPES AND LOTS OF THEM 3048 02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:20,520 AND THEIR FAMILY SYSTEM SO I 3049 02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:23,320 HAVE TO THINK IT'S NOT A HUGE 3050 02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:23,560 AMOUNT. 3051 02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:25,560 >> IT REALLY CAN'T BE FROM 3052 02:16:25,560 --> 02:16:26,800 HAVING LOOKED AT IT I DON'T KNOW 3053 02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:28,200 THE NUMBER BUT IT'S NOT THAT 3054 02:16:28,200 --> 02:16:30,560 LARGE OF A SYSTEM AND THIS 3055 02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:34,840 PARTICULAR ONE, WE NO INSTALLED IS 3056 02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:40,760 A RE FRIDGE RANT AND IT HAS A 3057 02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:44,680 COOLANT, LIQUID COOLED. 3058 02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:47,240 IT RUNS THROUGH THE BATTERY TO 3059 02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:57,680 KEEP IT COOL. 3060 02:16:57,680 --> 02:16:58,840 WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT 3061 02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:00,680 END-OF-LIFE ISSUES AND WE TALKED 3062 02:17:00,680 --> 02:17:02,680 ABOUT RECYCLING AND CARBON 3063 02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:03,720 FOOTPRINT AND I KNOW DAVID IF 3064 02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:05,560 YOU WANT TO TACKLE SOME OF THAT 3065 02:17:05,560 --> 02:17:07,280 OR ANYONE ELSE. 3066 02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:09,400 >> SAY THAT AGAIN? 3067 02:17:09,400 --> 02:17:12,080 >> THE LIFE CYCLE ANALYSIS OF 3068 02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:14,320 BATTERIES SORT OF WHAT IS THEIR 3069 02:17:14,320 --> 02:17:16,320 CARBON FOOTPRINT AND HOW DO YOU 3070 02:17:16,320 --> 02:17:17,800 DEAL WITH END-OF-LIFE CONCERNS 3071 02:17:17,800 --> 02:17:22,200 AND THAT TYPE OF ISSUES. 3072 02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:31,040 >> I'M NOT HUGELY VERSED ON 3073 02:17:31,040 --> 02:17:31,360 THAT. 3074 02:17:31,360 --> 02:17:32,440 THAT QUESTION HAS COME UP BEFORE 3075 02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:35,280 ON THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF THE 3076 02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:36,720 ACTUAL BATTERY. 3077 02:17:36,720 --> 02:17:42,840 I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY 3078 02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:43,040 HEAD. 3079 02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:45,320 >> I CAN JUMP IN AT A HIGH LEVEL 3080 02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:48,640 TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW, AT THE 3081 02:17:48,640 --> 02:17:51,680 RISK OF SOUNDING MONOTONOUS IT'S 3082 02:17:51,680 --> 02:17:53,520 LIKE SOLAR WAS 20 YEARS AGO AND 3083 02:17:53,520 --> 02:17:56,760 WE HAVE THIS SAME STRUGGLE AND 3084 02:17:56,760 --> 02:18:00,160 ARGUMENT SAYING HOW GREEN IS 3085 02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:03,800 THIS SOLAR PROBLEM AND ALL OF 3086 02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:06,160 THE THOSE MODELS DEVELOPED AND 3087 02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:08,960 NOW I THINK THEY'RE BEING 3088 02:18:08,960 --> 02:18:23,800 APPLIED SO BATTERIES AND IF FOR 3089 02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:24,640 FOR EXAMPLE THE BATTERY IS GOING 3090 02:18:24,640 --> 02:18:27,040 TO BE DRIVEN A CERTAIN WAY AND 3091 02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:28,520 IT DEPENDS ON YOUR ELECTRIC 3092 02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:32,200 VEHICLE AS A METAPHOR RIGHT SO 3093 02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:33,520 IF YOU ARE DRIVING HARD AND FAST 3094 02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:37,480 IT WILL LAST FIVE YEARS IF IT'S 3095 02:18:37,480 --> 02:18:38,320 FREQUENT SEE REGULATION AND IF 3096 02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:42,400 YOU DO ENERGY ARBITRAGE IT MIGHT 3097 02:18:42,400 --> 02:18:43,600 LAST 10 PLUS YEARS WHICH ANSWERS 3098 02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:45,040 ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS AND 3099 02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:47,280 THEN YOU BAKE THAT IN AND IF YOU 3100 02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:51,080 CAN PUT THAT IN YOUR PROFORMA 3101 02:18:51,080 --> 02:18:52,960 AND THEN START TAPPING INTO AS 3102 02:18:52,960 --> 02:18:55,520 DAVID SAID, THE CARSON CITY, THE 3103 02:18:55,520 --> 02:18:58,640 UPSTATE NEW YORK, THE LITHIUM 3104 02:18:58,640 --> 02:18:59,480 BATTERY RECYCLING FACILITIES 3105 02:18:59,480 --> 02:19:01,400 THAT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE IN 3106 02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:04,120 GERMANY FOR MANY YEARS NOW AND 3107 02:19:04,120 --> 02:19:06,920 WHAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY ABOUT 3108 02:19:06,920 --> 02:19:10,720 RECYCLING IS THAT WHAT IS IT 95% 3109 02:19:10,720 --> 02:19:13,240 OF THE LEAD ACID BATTERY CAN BE 3110 02:19:13,240 --> 02:19:14,520 RECYCLED TODAY, IT MIGHT BE MORE 3111 02:19:14,520 --> 02:19:15,760 THAN THAT TODAY. 3112 02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:17,480 BECAUSE IT TOOK US 100 YEARS TO 3113 02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:20,080 DEVELOP A REALLY STREAMLINE 3114 02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:21,440 PROCESS AND NOW WE'RE STARTING 3115 02:19:21,440 --> 02:19:25,040 TO DO A VERY SIMILAR THING WITH 3116 02:19:25,040 --> 02:19:26,680 LITHIUM BATTERIES. 3117 02:19:26,680 --> 02:19:28,080 SO, HOPEFULLY -- 3118 02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:30,360 >> ACTUALLY, THERE WAS ACTUALLY 3119 02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:34,320 A PRESENTATION ON RECYCLING 3120 02:19:34,320 --> 02:19:37,120 BATTERIES EARLIER AND IN THIS 3121 02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:39,840 THERMAL ENVIRONMENTAL SYMPOSIUM 3122 02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:47,960 THAT MAY BE ON-LINE IT'S 3123 02:19:47,960 --> 02:19:49,520 RECYCLABLE AND WE'RE NOT THERE 3124 02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:51,040 YET WITH LITHIUM EYE ON BUT 3125 02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:58,400 HOPEFULLY IT WILL EVOLVE TO THAT 3126 02:19:58,400 --> 02:20:02,080 POINT. 3127 02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:06,360 THEY'RE STILL IN USE SO MAYBE IN 3128 02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:10,200 FIVE OR 10 YEARS AS THESE CARS 3129 02:20:10,200 --> 02:20:11,000 USE REACHING END-OF-LIFE THEN 3130 02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:12,640 YOU WILL START SEEING MORE OF A 3131 02:20:12,640 --> 02:20:15,960 DEMIND FOR RECYCLING BUT I THINK 3132 02:20:15,960 --> 02:20:17,680 THE LIVES ARE PRETTY LONG AND 3133 02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:27,680 WE'RE NOT AND IT'S A NEW PRODUCT 3134 02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:36,840 AND DID PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO 3135 02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:39,920 TAKE LIKE NISSAN LEAF BATTERIES 3136 02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:43,200 OUT OF THE CARS EXCUSE THE AND USE THEM IN 3137 02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:43,440 BUILDINGS. 3138 02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:45,280 SAY I BOUGHT LIKE A EXPENSIVE 3139 02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:47,440 NEW TESLA AND I'VE BEEN DRIVING 3140 02:20:47,440 --> 02:20:50,200 IT FOR FIVE YEARS OR 10 YEARS I 3141 02:20:50,200 --> 02:20:50,840 DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT 3142 02:20:50,840 --> 02:20:53,440 THE DEROGATION RATE IS BUT SAY I 3143 02:20:53,440 --> 02:20:56,560 DRIVE IT FAST AND HARD AND IT 3144 02:20:56,560 --> 02:20:58,080 DEGRADES FASTER AND NOW INSTEAD 3145 02:20:58,080 --> 02:21:01,440 OF GETTING 400 MILES ON 3146 02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:14,840 300 MILES AND CHARGE AND IF YOU 3147 02:21:14,840 --> 02:21:18,120 GIVE ME 75% OF THE CHARGE, FOR A 3148 02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:19,320 BUILDING, I'LL TAKE THAT, 3149 02:21:19,320 --> 02:21:20,720 ESPECIALLY IF I HAVE SPACE 3150 02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:21,680 OUTSIDE THE BUILDING JUST TO 3151 02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:23,880 DROP IT IN A YARD SOMEWHERE, 3152 02:21:23,880 --> 02:21:24,080 RIGHT. 3153 02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:25,840 THAT'S A GREAT DEAL. 3154 02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,520 AND SO YOU KNOW, I AM VERY 3155 02:21:28,520 --> 02:21:33,360 CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE'S THIS 3156 02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:36,880 LIKE SECOND LIFE MARKET FOR CAR 3157 02:21:36,880 --> 02:21:38,960 BATTERIES IN BUILDINGS. 3158 02:21:38,960 --> 02:21:40,520 >> RIGHT. 3159 02:21:40,520 --> 02:21:41,480 THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF 3160 02:21:41,480 --> 02:21:43,280 EVOLUTION AND WE'RE ONLY AT 3161 02:21:43,280 --> 02:21:43,560 BEGINNING. 3162 02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:45,440 >> WE'RE AT BEGINNING, YEAH. 3163 02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:47,920 >> COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR ALEX IN 3164 02:21:47,920 --> 02:21:49,960 TERMS OF THE SAN DIEGO PROJECT 3165 02:21:49,960 --> 02:21:51,360 ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE BATTERY 3166 02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:54,960 AND THE LIFESPAN OF THE BATTERY 3167 02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:57,520 AND SPACE IT TAKES UP AND THE 3168 02:21:57,520 --> 02:21:57,960 PRACTICAL QUESTIONS. 3169 02:21:57,960 --> 02:22:00,400 >> OK, YEAH. 3170 02:22:00,400 --> 02:22:05,080 SO SIZE OF THE BATTERY, 3171 02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:05,960 750-KILOWATT, 1425-KILOWATT HOUR 3172 02:22:05,960 --> 02:22:13,680 IF THEY MEAN PHYSICIA PHYSICAL SIZE IT 3173 02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:14,920 WAS A TRIANGLE. 3174 02:22:14,920 --> 02:22:20,920 SHORT SIDE 33 FEET AND LONG SIDE 3175 02:22:20,920 --> 02:22:21,280 48 FEET. 3176 02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:22,840 AND WE'VE MANAGED TO FIT IN THE 3177 02:22:22,840 --> 02:22:24,160 SPACE THERE SO THAT THESE SLIDES 3178 02:22:24,160 --> 02:22:25,200 ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE. 3179 02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:31,960 ONE OF MY SLIDES HAS THE 3180 02:22:31,960 --> 02:22:34,760 DIMENSION IT TOOK UP A 48 BY 33 3181 02:22:34,760 --> 02:22:36,520 SPOT AND BATTERIES ARE GETTING 3182 02:22:36,520 --> 02:22:39,480 SMALLER BUT BY MUCH SO THEY DO 3183 02:22:39,480 --> 02:22:41,240 TAKE UP A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF 3184 02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:48,760 SPACE TO GET A LARGE BATTERY AND 3185 02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:51,880 AS FAR AS LIFE THAT IS STILL AND 3186 02:22:51,880 --> 02:22:56,160 THEY'RE USING IT DEPENDS ON AND 3187 02:22:56,160 --> 02:23:00,720 HOW YOU DRIVE A CAR AND ELECTRIC 3188 02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:07,560 CAR AND IN THIS CASE THE BATTERY 3189 02:23:07,560 --> 02:23:22,000 IS SO WE HAVE IT BUILT INTO THE 3190 02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:24,000 COST TO DO CELL REPLACEMENT IN 3191 02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:24,880 YEAR 11 TO BRING THE CAPACITY 3192 02:23:24,880 --> 02:23:27,560 BACK UP TO WHERE IT WAS SINCE WE 3193 02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:28,840 HAVE GUARANTEED SAVINGS. 3194 02:23:28,840 --> 02:23:30,760 WE DON'T YET HAVE THE FULL DATA 3195 02:23:30,760 --> 02:23:33,040 ON THIS USAGE CASE OF HOW LONG 3196 02:23:33,040 --> 02:23:34,640 IT REALLY IS GOING TO NEED. 3197 02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:35,720 IT'S SOMETHING I'M REALLY 3198 02:23:35,720 --> 02:23:36,240 INTERESTED IN. 3199 02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:39,400 WHEN YOU GET TO YOUR DATA WE'LL 3200 02:23:39,400 --> 02:23:41,080 LOOK AT IT EVERY YEAR. 3201 02:23:41,080 --> 02:23:42,040 WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY SIGNIFICANT 3202 02:23:42,040 --> 02:23:44,320 REDUCTION IN PERFORMANCE YET AT 3203 02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:44,920 YEAR FOUR. 3204 02:23:44,920 --> 02:23:47,280 WHEN WE GET TO YEAR 10, IT'S 3205 02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:47,960 SOMETHING WEEK STILL LEARNING ON 3206 02:23:47,960 --> 02:23:49,520 THESE AND RIGHT NOW WE DID PLAY 3207 02:23:49,520 --> 02:23:50,840 IT CONSERVATIVE BUILDING THE 3208 02:23:50,840 --> 02:23:54,480 COST OF CELL MAINTENANCE AND WAS 3209 02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:56,800 THERE ANOTHER COST? 3210 02:23:56,800 --> 02:24:01,080 SO THIS BATTERY IS 750KW BATTERY 3211 02:24:01,080 --> 02:24:02,640 WAS ROUGHLY COUNTING THE 3212 02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:06,400 DEVELOPMENT COST INSTALLED FOR 3213 02:24:06,400 --> 02:24:06,920 AROUND $2 MILLION. 3214 02:24:06,920 --> 02:24:11,560 >> OK. 3215 02:24:11,560 --> 02:24:11,880 GREAT. 3216 02:24:11,880 --> 02:24:15,640 AND ANOTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT 3217 02:24:15,640 --> 02:24:16,240 DESCRIBING THE RETURN ON 3218 02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:17,480 INVESTMENTS OF BAT ROW STORAGE 3219 02:24:17,480 --> 02:24:22,840 SYSTEM VERSUS A NATIONAL GAS 3220 02:24:22,840 --> 02:24:27,040 GENERATOR. 3221 02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:28,560 >> IT DEPENDS WHERE YOU ARE IN 3222 02:24:28,560 --> 02:24:29,240 THE COUNTRY. 3223 02:24:29,240 --> 02:24:30,880 THE THE DEMAND CHARGE IN 3224 02:24:30,880 --> 02:24:31,840 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, NOW THAT 3225 02:24:31,840 --> 02:24:33,160 NATURAL GAS IS GOING UP IN COST 3226 02:24:33,160 --> 02:24:34,640 THE BATTERY IS LOOKING PRETTY 3227 02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:37,360 GOOD. 3228 02:24:37,360 --> 02:24:37,960 PRETTY 3229 02:24:37,960 --> 02:24:38,200 GOOD. 3230 02:24:38,200 --> 02:24:41,080 THE BATTERY IS NOT MAKING 3231 02:24:41,080 --> 02:24:41,320 ENERGY. 3232 02:24:41,320 --> 02:24:44,000 NATURAL GAS GENERATOR IS MAKING 3233 02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:44,240 ENERGY. 3234 02:24:44,240 --> 02:24:45,960 SO YOU COULD USE A NATURAL GAS 3235 02:24:45,960 --> 02:24:48,000 GENERATOR TO REDUCE DEMAND AND 3236 02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:49,840 THAT'S NOT A VERY GREEN WAY TO 3237 02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:52,320 REDUCE DEMAND THOUGH AND 3238 02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:53,440 HOPEFULLY WE'RE ALL MOVING IN 3239 02:24:53,440 --> 02:24:55,040 THE DIRECTION OF DECARBONIZATION 3240 02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:59,600 AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE 3241 02:24:59,600 --> 02:25:00,880 PROPOSING ANYMORE AND THE 3242 02:25:00,880 --> 02:25:03,240 BATTERY IS MUCH BETTER. 3243 02:25:03,240 --> 02:25:04,560 AS FAR AS THE PAY BACK ONE 3244 02:25:04,560 --> 02:25:06,320 VERSUS THE OTHER, IT REALLY 3245 02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:09,200 VARIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. 3246 02:25:09,200 --> 02:25:14,280 >> I'LL ADD QUICKLY TO THAT. 3247 02:25:14,280 --> 02:25:15,240 RECENTLY THEY ARE EVALUATING 3248 02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:24,240 BRIDGE TECHNOLOGIES SO TODAY, IN 3249 02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:25,760 POLLUTANT CRITERIA REGIONS LIKE 3250 02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:28,600 THE LAIZATION BASIN AS AN 3251 02:25:28,600 --> 02:25:30,640 EXAMPLE THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO TO 3252 02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:34,640 MOBILE BATTERIES AND REPLACE THE 3253 02:25:34,640 --> 02:25:36,480 DIESEL FLEET WHICH ARE TIER 2 3254 02:25:36,480 --> 02:25:44,040 AND TIER 3 OR TIER 4 AND SO THE 3255 02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:46,040 BATTERY COST CAP X IS 3256 02:25:46,040 --> 02:25:47,240 COMPETITIVE USING THIS VERY 3257 02:25:47,240 --> 02:25:49,840 LARGE FLEET AND MECHANISM OF 3258 02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:53,440 DIESEL AGAIN SETS I AND I REAL 3259 02:25:53,440 --> 02:25:56,040 IT APPLIES AND THE POINT I WANT 3260 02:25:56,040 --> 02:25:57,440 TO MAKE THAT I THINK WITH RECENT 3261 02:25:57,440 --> 02:26:00,520 STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE IS THAT 3262 02:26:00,520 --> 02:26:01,920 ALTHOUGH THE CAP X MIGHT BE 3263 02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:04,200 HIGHER WITH BATTERY ENERGY 3264 02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:05,720 STORAGE THE ON X IS LOWER SO 3265 02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:08,840 WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY 3266 02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:10,040 OVER 10 YEARS AND DEPENDING ON 3267 02:26:10,040 --> 02:26:11,640 HOW YOU DRIVE IT AGAIN BATTERIES 3268 02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:15,000 ARE STARTING TO APPROACH SOME 3269 02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:15,960 COST EFFECTIVENESS THERE. 3270 02:26:15,960 --> 02:26:20,160 >> AND WE ACTUALLY DID RECENTLY 3271 02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:21,120 WE'RE WORKING WITH A SCHOOL 3272 02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:22,440 DISTRICT IN CALIFORNIA LOOKING 3273 02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:25,800 AT THEY HAVE A LOT OF -- THEY'RE 3274 02:26:25,800 --> 02:26:27,800 IN THE HILLS AND THEY HAVE POWER 3275 02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:31,320 OUTAGES FROM STORM FROM STORMS AND THEY'RE 3276 02:26:31,320 --> 02:26:32,760 GETTING INCREASED ABOUT THESE 3277 02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:34,400 PUBLIC SAFETY POWER SHUTDOWNS 3278 02:26:34,400 --> 02:26:35,680 THAT ARE HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA 3279 02:26:35,680 --> 02:26:38,080 WHERE THE UTILITY CAN TURN POWER 3280 02:26:38,080 --> 02:26:43,200 OFF FOR DAYS ON END. 3281 02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:45,080 THE SCHOOLS GET FUNDED BY 3282 02:26:45,080 --> 02:26:46,640 SOMETHING CALLED AVERAGE DAILY 3283 02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:48,640 ATTENDANCE WHICH MEANS IF 3284 02:26:48,640 --> 02:26:53,160 STUDENTS AREN'T IN SCHOOL THEY 3285 02:26:53,160 --> 02:26:55,480 LOSE MONEY AND WE LOOKED AT 3286 02:26:55,480 --> 02:26:58,680 GENERATORS VERSUS BATTERIES AND 3287 02:26:58,680 --> 02:27:00,560 ACTUALLY OBVIOUSLY THE BATTERIES 3288 02:27:00,560 --> 02:27:13,040 COST MORE UP FRONT AND THE PAY 3289 02:27:13,040 --> 02:27:14,120 BACK S WITH IN THE FIVE YEAR 3290 02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:16,360 RANGE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IT 3291 02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:19,880 WAS SHORTER THAN I EXPECTED AND 3292 02:27:19,880 --> 02:27:23,520 AND A LOT OF IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT 3293 02:27:23,520 --> 02:27:26,440 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS CAP X 3294 02:27:26,440 --> 02:27:27,920 VERSUS ON X SO YOU KNOW, WHEN 3295 02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:30,160 YOU PUT THAT PV BATTERY SYSTEM 3296 02:27:30,160 --> 02:27:33,640 IN THERE'S NO MAINTENANCE AND 9 3297 02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:34,800 GENERATORS YOU HAVE TO EXERCISE 3298 02:27:34,800 --> 02:27:35,840 REGULARLY AND YOU HAVE TO 3299 02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:36,800 MAINTAIN THEM AND YOU HAVE TO 3300 02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:39,920 CHANGE THE OIL AND IT'S LIKE A 3301 02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:42,040 CAR, RIGHT AND SO, OVER TIME I. 3302 02:27:42,040 --> 02:27:46,200 THAT EXPENSE STARTS ADDING UP. 3303 02:27:46,200 --> 02:27:48,120 >> GREAT. 3304 02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:50,040 THANK YOU, ALL. 3305 02:27:50,040 --> 02:27:51,840 I THINK IT'S ANNIE INVOLVING 3306 02:27:51,840 --> 02:27:53,960 ISSUE AND EXCITING TIME AND 3307 02:27:53,960 --> 02:27:58,640 THINGS ARE REALLY OPENING UP AND 3308 02:27:58,640 --> 02:27:59,000 OPPORTUNITIES. 3309 02:27:59,000 --> 02:28:00,040 THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND 3310 02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:01,400 THANK YOU FOR OUR SPEAKERS AND 3311 02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:03,520 THANK YOU TO OUR VIEWERS AND 3312 02:28:03,520 --> 02:28:05,240 THIS IS AN ISSUE I THINK WE'LL 3313 02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:09,960 ALL BE FOLLOWING FOR A WHILE. 3314 02:28:09,960 --> 02:28:11,240 >> THANK YOU, ALL. 3315 02:28:11,240 --> 02:28:12,440 THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF 3316 02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:13,600 INTEREST THERE AND BATTERIES AND 3317 02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:17,000 I THINK THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE IS 3318 02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:20,480 LOOKING TO FOR THE NEAR FUTURE. 3319 02:28:20,480 --> 02:28:21,480 I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME 3320 02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:22,800 AND THE WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE THAT 3321 02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:24,560 YOU SHARED WITH ALL OF US AND 3322 02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:26,960 THANK YOU TO ALL THE VIEWERS 3323 02:28:26,960 --> 02:28:29,800 THAT YOU WILL BE RECEIVING A 3324 02:28:29,800 --> 02:28:31,440 POST SYMPOSIUM SURVEY IN THE 3325 02:28:31,440 --> 02:28:33,440 NEAR FUTURE, PLEASE, RESPOND TO 3326 02:28:33,440 --> 02:28:34,880 THAT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE 3327 02:28:34,880 --> 02:28:37,040 CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS IMPOSE YUM 3328 02:28:37,040 --> 02:28:38,640 AS USEFUL AS POSSIBLE FOR THE 3329 02:28:38,640 --> 02:28:40,880 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 3330 02:28:40,880 --> 02:28:42,240 THANK YOU, EVERYONE. 3331 02:28:42,240 --> 02:28:45,840 AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. 3332 02:28:45,840 --> 00:00:00,000 >> THANK YOU, BYE-BYE.