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>>WELCOME TO TRACK 1

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FES SYMPOSIUM

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JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON IS

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Ms. RODRIGUEZ, ALSO AN

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ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER FROM

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NASA'S GORDARD SPACE FLIGHT

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CENTER WHERE SHE MANAGED THERE

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HASSARDOUS WASTE PROGRAM.

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WE HAVE HAVE EMERGING CHEMICALS

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AND THEY WERE SEPARATE BUT HAVE

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MERGED.

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WE HAVE PRESENTERS TODAY

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REPRESENTING THE DEPARTMENT OF

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DEFENSE, DEPARTMENT ENERGY,

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ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY,

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AND DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.

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IT SHOULD BE A GREAT GOVERNMENT

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ON CHEMICALS THE FEDERAL

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GOVERNMENT MANAGES AND DO YOU

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HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?

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>> NO, JUST THANK YOU FOR THE

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INTRODUCTION AND WELCOME TO THIS

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INTERESTING AND ENJOY THE

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PRESENTATION.

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OUR NEXT PRESENTER IS ANTONY

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WILLIAMS WHO JOINED THE CENTER

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FOR COMPUTATIONAL TOXICOLOGY AND

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EXPOSURE IN THE OFFICE OF

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RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AT EPA

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IN MAY OF 2015.

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HE IS A CHEM INFORM PETITION

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FOCUSED ON THE DELIVERY OF THE

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HAVE'S DATA TO THE SCIENTIFIC

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COMMUNITY.

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HIS INTEREST INCLUDE THE AGO

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AGREE SPACE CURATION OF CHEMICAL

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DATA, DEVELOPMENT OF MODELS TO

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SUPPORT PHYSIO CHEMICAL PROPERTY

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PREDICTION ASK SOFTWARE APPROACH

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TO SUPPORT NON TARGETED

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ANALYSIS.

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HE IS OVER TWO DECADES OF

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EXPERIENCE IN CHEMO INFORMMATICS

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WITH A FOCUS ON INTERNET BASED

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PROJECT TO DELIVER FREE ACCESS

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TO COMMUNITY BASED CHEMISTRY WEB

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SITES AND HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF

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CHEM SPIDER WITH OVER 100,000

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USERS A DAY AND PRODUCT OWNER

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FOR THE EPA COMP TALKS CHEMICAL

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FOR SIX YEARS AND LOVE COM TALKS

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BY THE WAY SO CHECK THAT OUT IF

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YOU HAVEN'T HAD IT YET.

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IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE FOR THOSE

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WHO ARE IN THE COMMUNITY IT'S

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THE TO GO AND TAKE IT AWAY.

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>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.

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I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

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TALK TO THIS GROUP TODAY.

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IF ANY OF YOU HAPPEN TO BE

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ATTENDING SOTE SOCIETY OF

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TOXICOLOGY IN SAN DIEGO I WILL

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BE AT THE BOOTH ALL DAY TOMORROW

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GIVING DEMOS OF SOME OF THE

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TOOLS I'LL BE SHOWING TODAY.

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SO PLEASE, COME ALONG AND VISIT.

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THE CHEMICALS DASHBOARD IS ONE

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OF OUR PRIMARY TOOLS FOR SHARING

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DATA WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THIS

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IS WHAT I'LL BE INTRODUCING YOU

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TODAY AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR

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PROOF OF CONCEPT MODULE THAT'S

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WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN

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PARALLEL WHICH ARE GOING PUBLIC

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SHORTLY.

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WORE AT 906,000 CHEMICALS TO THE

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PUBLIC AND WORKING ON THE NEXT

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RELEASE AND IT WILL BE

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1.2 MILLION CHEMICALS BY THE

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TIME WE RELEASE THE NEXT VERSION

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LATER THIS YEAR.

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THE CHARGE FOR THE DASHBOARD WAS

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TO DEVELOP A FIRST STOP SHOP FOR

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ENVIRONMENTAL CHEMICAL DATA AND

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IT'S NOT THE ONLY POLICE TO COME

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BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY RICH

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WEB SITES OUT THERE TO GO AND

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FIND INFORMATION BUT IT WILL

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HELP YOU MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF

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AND I WILL MENTION SOME OF OUR

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LINKS THAT WE'VE BUILT TO

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ASSISTANCE.

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AND THE INTENTION WAS TO BUILD A

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CENTRALIZED LOCATION FOR DATA

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AND INSURE WE CAN INTEGRATE

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CHEMISTRY EXPOSURE AND ALL IN

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ONE EASY TO USE WEBSITE AND IN

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ORDER TO USE A PATH TO BOTH

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SHARE AND EXISTING DATA SO

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EXPERIMENTAL DATA FROM VARIOUS

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PLACES ON-LINE DATABASES AND OUR

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OWN DATA GENERATED IN-HOUSE AND

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PREDICTIVE MODEL BECAUSE YOU

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HAVE APPROACH THAT'S CAN BE

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TAKEN IN ORDER TO BUILD

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PREDICTION AND WE ALSO WANTED

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MAKE SURE THIS WAS FULLY

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PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, OPEN DATA

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SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DOWNLOAD AND

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THEY SEE FIT UPDATED REGULARLY

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AND CURATED AND WE HAVE A

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CURATION TEAMWORKING ON THIS

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PROJECT ON ANY GIVEN DAY AND

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MAKING EASY ACCESS TO THESE DATA

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AVAILABLE NOT ONLY INFORM

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OURSELVES INSIDE THE AGENCY BUT

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TO THE WORLD AND WHAT WIRE DOING

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SIM PROVING THE EFFICIENCY ON A

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CHEMICAL RISK ASSESSMENT.

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SO WHILE YOU HAVE A NICE ENTRY

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POINT FOR THE SEARCH, WE CAN

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GIVE YOU ACCESS TO DATA BIO

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ACTIVITY DATA AND I'LL WALK

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THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL AND WE

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HAVE BUILT IN SEARCHES AND

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SIMILARITY SEARCH TO FIND

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SIMILAR CHEMICALS AND WE HAVE A

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READ ACROSS MODULE.

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MANY RISK ASSESSORS USE THAT

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APPROACH AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO

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ON-LINE TOOLS FOR ACCESSING OVER

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30 MILLION ABSTRACTS IN

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REAL-TIME TO PULL TOGETHER AND

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WE DON'T ALLOW TO YOU DO THAT

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FOR ONE AND AND SHOW TO LIST AND

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CAST NUMBERS IN NAMES IF YOU

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WANTED TO COME TO OUR TUNE AND

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HARVEST WHAT DATA WAS AVAILABLE

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AND JUST PACE THAT LIST OF CAST

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NUMBERS OR NAMES IN THE DATA.

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SO LET'S START AT ONE CHEMICAL.

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I KNOW WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT

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MORE AND I WANT TO SHOW AND TOOL

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IS SO IN THIS CASE WHAT WE'VE

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GOT AT THE MOMENT IS THE TYPE

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AHEAD COACH SO AND A NAME SUCH

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AS IT WILL SEARCH THROUGH THE

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MILLIONS IDENTIFIERS THAT FOR

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THE CHEMICALS TO LOCATE THE

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CHEMICAL IN QUESTION AND THE

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LARGEST NUMBER OF SIN IS

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ANYMORES IS OVER 4200 NAMES AND

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WITH YOU IMAGINE WITH 900,000

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CHEMICALS HOW MANY NAMES AND

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IDENTIFIERS WE HAVE AND THAT'S

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THE CHEMICAL AND YOU WOULD

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COLLECT THE CHEMICAL OF INTEREST

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THAW WANT TO CHOSE AND THEY'LL

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TAKE YOU TO THE REST AND YOU CAN

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ALSO FIND EVERY CHEMICAL THAT

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CONTAINS A PARTICULAR SUB STRAIN

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SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN A

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WORD CHECK THE BOX UNDER THE

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SEARCH THERE AND IT WILL FIND

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EVERY CHEMICAL FOR YOU.

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WHEN YOU FIND THE CHEMICAL OF

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INTEREST IN THIS CASE WHAT YOU

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SEE IS A REPRESENTATIVE PAGE

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WITH ALL THE INFORMATION ON THE

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LEFT-HAND SIDE, SHOWING WHAT IS

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AVAILABLE.

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I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO GO INTO

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EVERY COMPONENT OF THIS, A TRUE

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DEMO TAKES TWO HOURS AND THERE'S

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SO MUCH INFORMATION WE BUILT IN

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BUT VERY QUICKLY WHAT DO WE SEE?

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THE CHEMICAL STRUCTURE, THIS CAN

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BE DOWNLOADED SHOULD YOU USE

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TOOLS AND WE DO LINK TO WICK A

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BREED AND WWIKIPEDIA AND WE
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LINK THE DATA SO WE'VE LINKED IT

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IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO FIND A

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BASIC INTRO 20 THE CHEMICALS AND

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WE LINK THE FORMULA TO FIND ALL

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CHEMICALS AND AN IS THE ACE AND

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THEORY MERGING AND ASSESS AND SO

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THIS CAPABILITY IS VERY USEFUL

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FOR THE COLLEAGUES AND MASS ET

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CETERA, ET CETERA.

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AND CLICKING ON THESE INDIVIDUAL

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BUTTONS ON THE SIDE WILL TAKE

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YOU IN INTO THE DATA SO THIS IS

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THE INTRO PAGE.

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THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND I

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REALIZE YOU WON'T SEE THE TEXT

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THERE AND I'LL THROW IT IN FOR A

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MOMENT AND THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW

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ABOUT THE OX SIS TEE OF THE

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CHEMICAL AS WELL AS PERSISTENCE

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AND BIO A KUM INDICATION SO FOR

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THIS CHEMICAL WE KNOW THERE ARE

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IRIS VALUES AVAILABLE AND IF YOU

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CLICK THIS IT TAKES YOU TO THE

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DIRECT AND REGIONAL SCREENING

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LIMITS AND WE HAVE DOSES FOR TOX

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SIT TEE AND FOR ALL OF THIS

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INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE IN A

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SUMMARY VIEW TO TELL YOU THAT WE

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HAVE CHRONIC TOX DATA AVAILABLE

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AND WE HAVE CANCER INFORMATION

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AVAILABLE AND ALL OF THESE OUT

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LINKS RIGHT HERE GO TO SOURCE

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INFORMATION TO HELP YOU

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UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE

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CHEMICAL.

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THIS IS THE REVIEW OF THE TOX

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SIT TEE DATA AND YOU CAN GO

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THEY WERE CONCERNED AROUND

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PERSISTENCE AND BIO ACCUMULATION

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AND VERY HIGH KOWs AND

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DEPENDING ON THE REVERENCE AND

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SO WE HAVE PHYSICAL CHEMICAL

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PROPERTY DATA AVAILABLE AND WE

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HAVE EXPERIMENTAL AVERAGE ASKS

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WHAT WE DO HAV DON'T HAVE
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THERE ARE EIGHT POINTS LISTED

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WHERE WE DON'T HAVE DATA WE'LL

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GIVE YOU PREDICTIVE DATA GIVES

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TOOLS WE HAVE ACCESS TO AND ONE

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OF THE TOOLS IS OBJECT RA AND

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THIS IS OPEN SOURCE AVAILABLE

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AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT AND RUN

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IT LOCALLY AND TEST THE TOXICITY

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SOFTWARE TOOLS AND WE ALSO

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INTEGRATE THINGS LIKE EPI SUITE

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AND WHEN YOU SEE DATA LIKE T.

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YOU CAN OF COURSE COPY PASTE IT

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AND EXPLORE TO THE EXCEL FILES

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OR TAB OR SEPARATED FILES.

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THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE TOX SIT

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TOXICITY VALUE BASE.

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WE HAVE 900,000 THAT HAVE

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TOXICITY DATA THAT WE'VE

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HARVESTED FROM 30 SOURCES ON

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DATA ON-LINE AND WE HAVE 40

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SOURCES OF DATA WE'VE PULLED IT

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FROM 5,000 JOURNALS HAVE BEEN

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CITED AND YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL

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VALUES OF COURSE DOWNLOAD THE

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DATA AND ANY TABLE CAN BE

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EXPORTED THIS WAY AND AND THEY

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PULLED OUT AND WHAT WE DO IS WE

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HIT THEIR WESTBOUND SERVICES AND

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IT'S A DATA INTEGRATION PATH AND

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WE HIT THE WESTBOUND SERVICES

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POLAR DATA REAL-TIME AND DISPLAY

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INSIDE OUR APPLICATIONS AND IT'S

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ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF WORKING

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WITH THESE SYSTEMS WHERE YOU CAN

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PULL THEM TOGETHER SO THIS IS

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SHOWING YOU THAT JUST A PART OF

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THE GHS CLASSIFICATION FOR

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BENZOPYRENE.

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WE HAVE BEEN PULLING DATA FROM

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SOURCES OF INFORMATION SUCH AS

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HOME DEPOT, AND WAL-MART, VERY

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MANY PUBLIC SOURCES THAT WE CAN

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GET EXPOSURE INFORMATION AND IN

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THIS CASE WE'RE ACTUALLY SHOWING

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CHEMICAL WEIGHT FRACTIONS FOR

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INDIVIDUAL PRODUCTS OF WHAT WE

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HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION COMING

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IN AND CURATING AND TO BUILD

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THAT ENORMOUS AND IT'S

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ACCESSIBLE AND OF COURSE, IT'S A

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TABLE OF COURSE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD

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IT.

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THAT'S A BASIC INTRO TO WHAT IS

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POSSIBLE ON ONE OF THE PAHs.

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SO YOU FIND AND PFAS?

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WHEN YOU SEARCH ON PFAS IT'S TWO

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TERMS.

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PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE SOURCE AND

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THE ANIN THAT HAS ITS OWN CAST

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NUMBER AND IT HAS ITS OWN

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INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH IT

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AND THIS IS PFAS THE NEUTRAL AS

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SIDE I'M SHOWING YOU THE PFAS

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ITSELF.

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I CAN CLICK THIS LINK AND FIND

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ALL CHEMICALS THAT MATCH THE

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FORMULA AND OF THE PFAS AND

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THERE MAY BE DOZENS OF THEM IN

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FACT WITH CAN SEE HERE ON THE

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LEFT-HAND SIDE THE ABILITY TO

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DIVE DOWN INTO THE SAME TYPES OF

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DATA.

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I WANT TO SHOW YOU AND THE

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SIMILARITY TOO OTHER CHEMICALS

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OF THAT NATURE SO OF COURSE IT

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WILL BE DIFFERENT WITH THE ACID

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AND YOU START TO PAN OTHER

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MOIETIES OF THE SULFONIC ACID

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AND WE SEE 127 CHEMICALS BASED

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ON SOME CALLED THE TANAMOTO CO

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EFFICIENT AND THIS IS A TERM WE

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USE FOR LOOKING AT SIMILARITY OF

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CHEMICALS AND ALL WOULD YOU DO

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IS SCROLL DOWN HERE.

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THIS IS ONE VIEW OF THE SIMILAR

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CHEMICALS AND IT'S A SET OF

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TILES HOWEVER IF YOU SWITCH OVER

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HERE TO TOP-RIGHT CORNER IT

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TAKES IT BACK INTO A TABLE AND

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IT WILL SHOW YOU THE INFORMATION

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THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE WHICH YOU

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CAN THEN DOWNLOAD OF COURSE INTO

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AN EXCEL FILE AND YOU'VE JUST

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SEARCHED ON PFAS BY NAME OR BY

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CAST NUMBER AND HARVESTED OUT

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CHEMICALS AND WE CAN TELL YOU

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WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TOX SIT

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TEE DATA AVAILABLE AND EXPOSURE

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AND MODELS AND ET CETERA AND THE

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OTHER THING WE DO WITH A SET OF

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CHEMICALS IS SEND THIS ENTIRE

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LIST OVER TO THE BACK SEARCH AND

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HARVEST EVEN MORE INFORMATION.

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AND WE'LL GET TO THAT.

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THIS IS ONE OF THE VIEWS THAT IS

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GENERALLY VERY POWERFUL AND

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SIMILAR COMPOUNDS AND THIS IS

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LOOKING SIMILAR BUT THIS IS

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RELATED SUBSTANCES NOW AND THIS

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IS WHERE PFAS IS A COMPONENT OF

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THE EITHER A SALT FORM AND CAN

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YOU SEE HERE LITHYUM, AMMONIUM

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SO THESE ARE ALL SALT FORMS OF

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PFAS IT'S ONE COMPONENT OF A

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MULTI-COM POM AN POT ANT SYSTEM
AND

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THIS IS A TWO-COMPONENT SYSTEM.

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THE OTHER THING WE'VE BEEN

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WORKING ON CAREFULLY IS TO DEAL

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WITH COMPLEXITY OF REPRESENTING

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CHEMICALS SO DOWN HERE ON THE

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RIGHT-HAND SIDE WE HAVE THIS

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THING CALLED A MAR KUSH

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STRUCTURE.

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PFAS IS ONE IN A CLASS OF ACIDS

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SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A

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APPROACHES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY

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DEFINED IN THE PAT ANT WORLD AND

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FOR REPRESENTING THESE CHEMICALS

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SO THIS REPRESENTSTATION IS THEY

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CAN END C F-2 GROUPS WHEN WE

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DRAW THIS FORM OF THE CHEMICAL,

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WE CAN THEN DO THIS PROCESS

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CALLED ENUMERATION AND WE

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ENUMERATE EVERY FORM OF THE

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CHEMICAL UP TO AND HIGH UP TO

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100 AND WE MAP IT TO ALL THE

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CHEMICALS THAT WE HAVE INSIDE

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THE DATABASE.

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IT GIVES YOU A APPROACH TO FIND

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THE CHEMICALS AND THIS IS

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EXAMPLE WE CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE

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THE SEARCHED CHEMICAL HERE AND

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HERE ARE ALL OF THE CHILDREN AND

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IF YOU KROLL YOU FIND EVEN MORE.

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WE'VE BEEN TAKING CHEMICALS FOR

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YEARS UNDER THE TALKS '21 WORK

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THAT'S BEEN GOING ON MULTI

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AGENCY THAT THE STUDIES AND TOX

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CAST DID OUR OWN EPA WORK AND

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THIS IS A GREAT PUBLICATION.

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IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND TOXCAST,

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TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'VE BEEN

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DOING FOR A DECADE IN AND OUT.

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WE'VE BEEN LOOK AT OVER 8,000

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CHEMICALS NOW AND AT SOME POINTS

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OVER 2,000 INDIVIDUAL POINTS

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LOOKING FOR MALL FORMATION OF

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THE CELLS, METABOLITE EFFECTS,

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ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

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YOU CAN SEE A SUMMARY THE DATA

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RIGHT HERE AND THIS IS FOR IT

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AND YOU CAN DIVE DOWN INTO THE

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EXACT CONCENTRATION DATA CURVES

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THAT WE'VE GENERATED SO YOU ARE

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TALKING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DATA

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POINTS BEING GENERATED OVER THE

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PAST FEW YEARS AND THIS IS A

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SUMMARY VIEW OF ALL THE DATA WE

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HAVE AND IT'S A TABLE AND YOU

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CAN DOWNLOAD IT AND IF YOU ARE

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INTERESTED IN INTERROGATING OUR

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BIO ACTIVITY DATA THIS IS THE

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BEST WAY WE CAN GIVE YOU TO

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ACCESS THOSE DATA IN A SIMPLE

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MANNER BUT I DID MENTION, THIS

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IS A SUMMARY VIEW YOU CAN'T DIVE

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DOWN INTO THE INDIVIDUAL

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CONCENTRATION RESPONSE CURVES TO

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GO EVEN DEEPER AND SEE HOW WE'VE

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MADE SOME OF OUR ACTIVE HIT

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CALLS.

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THE DATA WAS I HOPE SOME OF YOU

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ARE AWARE OF THE SOME OF THE

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MODELS COMING OUT THE EPA OVER

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MANY YEARS SO THE MODEL FOR

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ASTRO GENRE SCEPTER AND THIS IS

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THE ONE ON THE TOP RIGHT.

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WE HAVE COMPARA AND MANY OF THE

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MODELS WE'VE BEEN BUILDING UP

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OVER THE YEARS AND TEASE

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PREDICTIONS ARE AVAILABLE FOR

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THE THOUSANDS OF CHEMICALS WE'VE

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STUDY IN TOXCAST BUT HUNDREDS OF

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THOUSANDS OF CHEMICALS CONTAINED

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IN THE DASHBOARD SO WE TAKE

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THESE MODELS AND PREDICT WHETHER

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OR NOT WE BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE

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ASTRO RECEPTORS ACTIVITY AND I

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MENTIONED WE HAVE A AN
INTEGRATION

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TO PUBMED.

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IF YOU WANT TO FIND EVERY IRISH

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REPORT THAT IS EVER WITHIN BEEN

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PUT OUT THERE, WE HAVE THOSE

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BUILT DIRECTLY AND ALSO PPRTV.

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WE HAVE REPORTS AVAILABLE, WE

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LINK THEM DIRECTLY FROM THE

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CHEMICAL SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO

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HARVEST IT THROUGH GOOGLE, COME

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TO THE SYSTEM AND CLICK TO THE

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REPORTS OF INTEREST.

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WE TAKE AN ADVANTAGE OF THE PUB

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MED SYSTEM IS THE INCREDIBLY

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CAPABLE WEB SERVICES THEY'VE

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BEEN ABLE TO DELIVER AND WE'VE

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BUILT AN INTEGRATION THAT

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DIRECTLY TO PUBMED THROUGH OUR

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APPLICATION AND WE FOCUSED IT ON

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OUR PURPOSES AS THE EPA TO TRY

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AND FIND INFORMATION OF VALUE SO

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FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN COLLECT FROM

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THESE TERMS AND IT WILL POPULATE

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A QUERY INTO THIS BOX AND YOU

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CAN EDIT IT A LITTLE BIT IF YOU

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WOULD LIKE TO ADJUST IT.

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IT TAKES THAT QUERY AND SENDS IT

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DIRECTLY TO PUBMED AND PULLS

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BACK ARTICLES IN REAL-TIME.

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THERE ARE 30 MILLION ABSTRACT

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ALREADY AND IT TAKES A COUPLE OF

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SECONDS TO DO THAT AND THEY WILL

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START DOWNLOADING INTO THE

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APPLICATIONS SO THAT YOU CAN

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START TO INTEG GAT INTERROGATE
THEM.

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WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE BUILT A

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VERY INTUITIVE INTERFACE SO THAT

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YOU CAN START QUERYING THROUGH

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THAT SET OF RESULTS.

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IT'S PULLED DOWN 143 ARTICLES

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ABOUT -- RIGHT HERE I'VE GOT

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THIS SO I TYPED IT IN AND WE'VE

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STARTED FILTERING DIRECTLY

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THROUGH ALL OF THE ABSTRACT THAT

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HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED INTO THE

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BACKGROUND AND IT STARTS TO

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BUILD A FREQUENCY COUNT OF THOSE

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AND IF YOU FIND AN ARTICLE OF

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CENTER WITH A LOT OF MENTIONS OF

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ESTROGEN RECEPTORS, THEN THIS IS

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DIRECTLY LINKED TO PUBMED SO YOU

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CAN LINK OUT DIRECTLY TO THE

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PUBMEDDARD CAL AND READ IT.

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THERE'S A VERSION OF THIS THAT

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RUNS FOR EXCEL SO CAN YOU

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DOWNLOAD EXCEL AND POPULATE IT

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WITH 100 CHEMICALS AND USE THE

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EXCEL VERSION TO HIT PUBMED AND

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PULL DATA TO REAL-TIME.

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WHAT WE'VE BUILT INTO THE

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DASHBOARD SO FAR IS SINGLE

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CHEMICAL BUT THE EXCEL WILL GIVE

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YOU BATCH CAPABILITIES SO,

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PUBMED IS ONE WAY TO SEARCH

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INTERNET FOR DATA.

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LINKING OUT WITH ZOO

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IDENTIFIERS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE

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HUNDREDS OF NAMES WE MIGHT HAVE

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FOR OUR CHEMICALS.

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SMILES, THAT'S A CHEMICAL

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STRUCTURE REPRESENTATION.

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INCHLS IS AN INTERNATIONAL

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CHEMICAL IDENTIFIER.

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IF WE HAVE A STRUCTURE WE HAVE

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AN INCHLS.

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WHEN WE HAVE ALL OF THESE

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ASSEMBLED ON YOUR BEHALF.

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YOU CAN USE THESE TO SEARCH THE

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INTERNET VERY QUICKLY.

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IT'S NOT YOU GOING TO GOOGLE AND

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PASTING, WE HAVE 70 INDIVIDUAL

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SITES AND GROWING AND ON A

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REGULAR BASIS YOU CAN SIMPLY

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COME TO YOUR CHEMICAL OF

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INTEREST AND IT COULD BE PFAS

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AND ASPIRIN AND WHAT YOU WOULD

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DO IS START CLICKING.

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THIS TAKES YOU INTO PUBCHEM.

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THIS WILL TAKE YOU INTO

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CHEMVIEW.

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THIS WILL TAKE YOU TO AN

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ASSESSMENT FOR THAT CHEMICAL.

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MOST OF THESE HYPER LINKS ARE

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ACTIVE IF THERE'S INFORMATION

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00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:33,840
AVAILABLE.

524
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,680
WE'VE LITERALLY THROUGH THE

525
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,240
LINKS PAGE GIVEN YOU ACCESS TO

526
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,400
ALL THIS DATA ACROSS THE

527
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,000
INTERNET WHERE WE'VE PRE MAPPED

528
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,120
THIS INFORMATION FOR YOU TO GIVE

529
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,840
YOU DIRECT SINGLE CLICK, SINGLE

530
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,360
ENTRY POINTS FOR CHEMICALS.

531
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:53,280
AS AN EXAMPLE, FOR THE, WE'VE

532
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,280
DROPPED FROM 90 WEB SITES

533
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,720
BECAUSE WEB SITES COME AND GO

534
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,160
SADLY BUT HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF

535
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,400
WHEN I GO TO EPA SOCIAL REGISTRY

536
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,920
IT TAKES ME INTO THE CHEM BELL

537
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,040
REPORT WHICH IS OUT OF EUROPEAN

538
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,920
BIO INFORMATICS INSTITUTE AND

539
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,880
THIS IS OECD PORTAL AND YOU ARE

540
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,920
CLICKING AND GOING INTO THESE

541
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,520
SOURCES DIRECTLY.

542
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,560
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN

543
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,040
WORKING ON VERY HARD OF LATE, IS

544
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,520
TO BUILDUP LISTS OF CHEMICALS.

545
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,720
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, CHEMICALS OF

546
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,920
EMERGING CONCERN CEC SCREEN IS

547
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,320
ONE OUR LISTS.

548
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,320
YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN ALL

549
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,160
CHEMICALS FOR HIGH-RISK.

550
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,080
A LIST OF ANTIBIOTICS.

551
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,720
A LIST OF CHEMICALS THAT HAVE

552
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,680
GONE THROUGH TOXCAST, 8,000 PLUS

553
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,120
CHEMICALS.

554
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:43,960
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN

555
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,160
FOCUSING ON AS AN AGENCY IS PFAS

556
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,720
SO WE HAVE OUT OF OUR 319 LISTS

557
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,200
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 36 LISTS, I

558
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,920
FILTERED HERE AND YOU CAN SEE

559
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,920
THESE INDIVIDUAL LISTS.

560
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,240
THIS ONE IS 19 CHEMICALS AND

561
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,640
THIS IS THE 537.1 DRINKING WATER

562
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,200
METHOD FOR PFAS.

563
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:08,080
THIS IS THE LIST OF 430 AND AND

564
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,120
VIALS AND WE HAVE THE INVENTORY

565
00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:14,320
AND WE USED THEM FOR DOING

566
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,520
KINETIC STUDIES AND BIO

567
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,880
ACTIVITIES AND THESE LISTS WILL

568
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,720
BE IN THE FIELD AND IT WASN'T A

569
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,200
SMALL LIST AND WE HAVE BEEN

570
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,000
WORKING HARD AND LIST EXIST AND

571
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,920
MANY OF YOU WILL HAVE HEARD THE

572
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,720
OECD AND MADE AVAILABLE AND IT

573
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,720
WAS CALLED THE THEY NEED AN

574
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,960
EXCEL DOWN SHEET AND WE WORKED

575
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040
HARD TO MAP AS MANY OF THOSE

576
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,720
CHEMICALS AS POSSIBLE TO

577
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,120
CHEMICAL STRUCTURES AND WE

578
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,360
EXPANDED THEIR LIST AND WE HAVE

579
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:49,320
EXPANDED THEIR STRUCTURAL AND

580
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,840
THIS AVAILABLE AND IF YOU WANT

581
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:57,200
TO SLOWED THIS AND ALL YOU CAN

582
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,360
PUSH THIS SEARCH AND AND TO THIS

583
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,200
IS ONLY 4600 CHEMICALS AND SO

584
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,720
SOME OF THESE WILL BE PFAS UBC

585
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,960
AND THAT POLYMER AND THEY STILL

586
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,440
HAVE CAST NUMBERS AND THEY STILL

587
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,400
HAVE OUR SUBSTANCE IDENTIFIERS

588
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,720
HERE SO THESE ARE IN THE LIST

589
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:24,280
AND WE RETAIN THEM AND?

590
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,720
I WAS HOPING TO ANNOUNCE THIS

591
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,720
WAS AVAILABLE TO YOU.

592
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,560
I FINISHED THE PROVES ON THIS

593
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800
PAPER ON THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK

594
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:36,040
AND IT'S ALREADY UP AND

595
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,960
AVAILABLE IT'S JUST THE FINAL

596
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,520
PDF IS NOT RELEASED YET I HOPE

597
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,520
IT WILL BE THERE IN THE NEXT 24

598
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,920
HOURS AND WE WORKED HARD TO GET

599
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,320
IT READY FOR THIS CONFERENCE.

600
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,000
I'LL MENTION BACK SEARCHING FOR

601
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,920
A MOMENT.

602
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,920
SINGLETON SEARCH IS GREAT.

603
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,040
ALL THE INFORMATION YOU CAN FIND

604
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,400
ON ONE CHEMICAL AND WHAT ABOUT

605
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,880
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR

606
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,520
5,000PFAS CHEMICALS IF WHAT

607
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,120
ABOUT IF I WANT THE LIST OF

608
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,200
CHEMICALS WITH CAST NUMBERS AND

609
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,280
NAMES?

610
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,040
CAN I GET PREDICTIVE PROPERTIES?

611
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,880
MAYBE I HAVE MONTHSES AND NORM

612
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,400
YOU LIE FOR A LIST OF CHEMICALS

613
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,640
BEAU I WANT TO HAVE MY TEAM SO

614
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720
THEY CAN DO STUDIES AND TARGET

615
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,520
ANALYSIS SO HERE IS AN EXAMPLE

616
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,520
WHERE I HAVE PASTE AID LIST OF

617
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,840
OUR SUBSTANCE IDENTIFIERS BUT

618
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,760
YOU COULD PASTE A LIST OF CAST

619
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,880
NUMBERS, CHEMICAL NAMES AND

620
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,000
ENTRY KEYS, THOSE ARE VERY

621
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,920
COMMON IN PUBLIC DATABASES.

622
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,680
AND BASED ON FORM YOU LIE AND

623
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,720
MASSES AND I'VE PASTED THEM IN

624
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,680
HERE AND I STARTED TO HIT

625
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,520
RETRIEVE AND IT WILL PULL BACK

626
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,280
FROM 110 INPUTS IT'S ALREADY

627
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,960
PULLED BACK 45.

628
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,880
THIS TAKES A FEW SECONDS BY THE

629
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,320
WAY.

630
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,560
110 CHEMICALS WILL BE ABOUT TWO

631
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:46,960
SECONDS.

632
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,600
AND WHEN I SEE BELOW IS THE

633
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,920
TABLE OF INFORMATION THAT I CAN

634
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,080
SEE.

635
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,440
I CAN GO THROUGH THESE CHEMICALS

636
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,800
AND MAKE A DECISION.

637
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,720
I'VE CHOSEN AN EXPORT FORMAT IN

638
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,920
THIS CASE EXCEL AND WE EXPORTED

639
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,560
IN OTHER FORMATS AND I WANT TOED

640
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,960
A THE CAST NUMBERS AND THE

641
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,320
SMILES AND THE FORM YOU LIE,

642
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,480
WHETHER OWNER IT'S BEEN SCREENED

643
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,160
IN TOXCAST.

644
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,280
WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GHS DATA

645
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:12,920
AVAILABLE?

646
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,240
AND WHETHER THERE'S AN IRIS OR

647
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,720
THE OR QC NOTES.

648
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,320
WHATEVER I CHECK HERE,

649
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,120
IMMEDIATELY IT'S GOING TO BE

650
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:25,400
AVAILABILITY IN MY DOWNLOAD

651
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:25,840
FILE.

652
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,520
IF I TOOK 5,000 CHEMICALS I'M

653
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,520
SELECTING INDIVIDUAL LISTS THAT

654
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,320
I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHETHER

655
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,160
THEY WERE PRESENT IN AND THAT

656
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,600
5,000 CHEMICALS WILL TAKE YOU

657
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,360
ABOUT 20 SECOND TO HARVEST THE

658
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:49,720
DON'T AND BRING IT TO YOUDATA
AND BRING IT
 TO YOUR DESK

659
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,040
STOP.

660
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,120
THAT'S THE DASHBOARD.

661
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,320
YOU ALL HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

662
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,160
I WANT TO TELL WHAT YOU IS

663
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:56,520
COMING.

664
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,840
THESE ARE PROOF OF MODULE

665
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,760
EXAMINES WE HOPED TO GET THESE

666
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,800
TO YOU THIS WEEK.

667
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,320
WE HAVE THE CLEARANCE IT'S READY

668
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,320
TO GO UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO

669
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,080
GET A FIRE WALL REGULATION

670
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,520
CHANGED.

671
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,800
IT WILL NOT BE DONE UNTIL

672
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,360
FRIDAY.

673
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:10,880
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CHECK THESE

674
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,200
OUT.

675
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,680
WHAT'S DIFFERENT HERE?

676
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,960
THE DASHBOARD GIVES YOU A VIEW

677
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,720
OF THE DATA FOR HARVESTING BUT

678
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,360
WE'VE BEEN ADDING MORE

679
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:19,920
CAPABILITY FOR YOU TO PROFILE

680
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,880
THE DATA AND TO GET STRUCTURE

681
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,920
ALERTS AND TO DO BATCH

682
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,520
PREDICTIONS OF YOUR OWN

683
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,080
CHEMICALS AND SEARCH BASED ON

684
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,280
STRUCTURES, SUB STRUCTURES AND

685
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,360
SIMILARITIES AND ANOTHER

686
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:32,800
CAPABILITY SUCH AS

687
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,200
STANDARDIZATION.

688
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,720
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF ME PASTE

689
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,640
NORTH A LIST OF 100 CHEMICALS

690
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,960
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT PROFILES

691
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,360
AGAINST CERTAIN LEVELS OF

692
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:42,920
TOXICITY AND THIS LOOKS LIKE A

693
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,200
HEAT MAP ONLY BUT I CAN ACTUALLY

694
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,720
CLICK ON ANY OF THESE

695
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,760
INDIVIDUALS CELLS AND IT WILL

696
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:53,000
SHOW YOU ALL THE DATA WE HAVE

697
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,800
AVAILABLE REGARDING NIGHT TRIAL

698
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,480
FOR EXAMPLE AND EACH ONE OF

699
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,440
THESE CELLS IS ACTIVE AND YOU

700
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,000
CAN CLICK IT ON IT AND IT OPENS

701
00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,880
THE DATA.

702
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,400
CAN YOU EVEN DOWNLOAD IT THEN

703
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,840
INTO AN EXCEL FILE.

704
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,040
IF YOU INPUT ABOUT 100

705
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,240
CHEMICALS, THERE ARE TILES WHEN

706
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,680
YOU GET 8,000 ROWS OF TOXICITY

707
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,120
DATA DOWNLOADED INTO AN EXCEL

708
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:11,400
FILE.

709
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,760
THIS IS THE FASTEST WAY WE CAN

710
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,120
GIVE YOU TO DO BATCH HARVESTING

711
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,720
AND PROFILING OF THOSE

712
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,200
CHEMICALS.

713
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,800
THIS IS WHERE I'VE BEEN PUT A

714
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,200
LIST OF CHEMICALS BASED ON A SET

715
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:29,040
OF TEST NUMBERS AND WE GIVE YOU

716
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,160
ALERTS ON ALERTS AND THERE ARE A

717
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,800
SET OF ALERTS WE HAVE BUILT INTO

718
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,400
THIS AND YOU SELECT WHICH ONES

719
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,360
YOU ARE INTERESTED IN AND IT

720
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,120
WILL BUILD YOU A PROFILE AND

721
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,800
DOWNLOAD THE DATA TO THE EXCEL

722
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,080
FILE.

723
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,760
I'VE PUT A LIST OF CHEMICALS

724
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,640
BASED ON CAT NUMBERS I CAN JUST

725
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,840
AS EASILY CLICK PREDICT AND IT'S

726
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,920
USING MODELS AND CERTAIN END

727
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,320
POINTS.

728
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,360
IF HAS TO BE ORGANIC CHEMICALS

729
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,640
IN ORDER TO GET THE DATA.

730
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,200
WHEN YOUR EXPERIMENTAL DATA

731
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440
AVAILABLE WE GIVE YOU THE

732
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,520
EXPERIMENTAL DATA BACK AND

733
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,480
DOWNLOAD TO EXCEL.

734
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320
IF YOU HAVE A STRUCTURE AND YOU

735
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,160
WANT TO FIND EVERY CHEMICAL OF

736
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,600
THE OUT 900,000 THAT HAS A

737
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080
SPECIFIC SUB STRUCTURE AND A C8

738
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,720
CHAIN DRAW IT AND DO A SUB

739
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,360
STRUCTURE SEARCH AND IT WILL

740
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:23,080
BRING DOWN THAT SET OF CHEMICALS

741
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,120
FOR YOU.

742
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,560
THESE MODULES WILL BE DEPLOYED

743
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,960
TO YOU RIGHT NOW AND THE URL
WILL

744
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,560
BE ISSUED IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS

745
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,400
AND THE FIRE WALL REGULATION

746
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,120
WILL NOT ENABLE THIS SITE TO BE

747
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,280
AVAILABLE TO YOU WE HEAR ON

748
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,440
FRIDAY AND IT'S TIMELINE

749
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:42,720
CONTINUES.

750
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,280
THE DASHBOARD IS TODAY IT'S

751
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,080
ABOUT 900,000 CHEMICALS AND

752
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,080
906,000 AND WE'VE INTEGRATED ALL

753
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,760
OF THESE DATA TYPES TO MAKE IT

754
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,680
AVAILABLE AND TRIED TO MAKE IT

755
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,800
AS CONSUMABLE AS POSSIBLE AND I

756
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,400
SHOWED YOU THE CHEMICAL SEARCH

757
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,840
BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEARCH FOR

758
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,480
PRODUCT USE AND YOU WANT TO FIND

759
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,680
EVERY CHEMICAL IN TOOTHPASTE,

760
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,600
BASED ON TOOTHPASTE, HAIR DYE,

761
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,240
ET CETERA AND IT GIVES YOU A

762
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,080
DIFFERENT PIVOT TO THE DATA.

763
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120
NOT ONLY SINGLE CHEMICALS BUT

764
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,960
BATCH SEARCH, REAL-TIME PROPERTY

765
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,280
PREDICTIONS AND ALSO ALL OF THE

766
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,520
DATA THAT YOU HARVEST YOU CAN

767
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,240
PULL IT DOWN TO THE DESKTOP FOR

768
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,200
YOU TO USE.

769
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,440
MANY PUBLICATIONS THEY'RE

770
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,040
ALREADY OUT THERE AND DOZENS

771
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,560
THAT HAVE USED THE DASHBOARD AT

772
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,240
THIS POINT AND IF YOU ARE

773
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,720
INTERESTED TO SEE HOW WE

774
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,360
DEVELOPED IT, WHAT IS AVAILABLE

775
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,920
I CAN REFER YOU TO THOSE.

776
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,720
WE HAVE MANY VIDEOS ON-LINE AND

777
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,120
A FULL MANUAL AND WE KEEP ADDING

778
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,320
LISTS AND UPDATING IT.

779
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,920
ALL OF THESE RESOURCES ARE

780
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,680
AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO BROWSE AND

781
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,120
I GIVE THE PRESENTATION BUT I

782
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,600
WORK ON INCREDIBLE TEAM OF

783
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,520
PEOPLE AND WE WORK ON MAKE THE

784
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,240
DASHBOARD RICHER AND BETTER FOR

785
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,200
YOU WITH NEW DATA AND MODELS AND

786
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,960
ET CETERA AND ET CETERA.

787
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,360
I HOPE THIS WAS OF INTEREST TO

788
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,320
YOU AND IF YOU ARE AN SOT AND

789
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,760
YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN SAN DIEGO

790
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,000
VISIT, I'LL BE AT THE BOOTH

791
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,280
TOMORROW.

792
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,600
I APPRECIATE SEEING YOU AND I'M

793
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,120
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY

794
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,360
QUESTIONS.

795
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,160
>> WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

796
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520
THE FIRST QUESTION WAS HOW DOES

797
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,960
CONTACTS CREATE LISTS OF SIMILAR

798
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,360
CHEMICALS?

799
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040
IS THIS A MANUAL CURATION OR IS

800
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,120
THERE AN ALGORISM IT USES TO

801
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:18,520
FIND THEM.

802
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,920
>> WE ARE USING A TOOLKIT IN THE

803
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,040
BACKGROUND TO AUTOMATICALLY

804
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,760
PERFORM SIMILARITY SEARCHES USES

805
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,920
A TAN OWE MOTO SEARCH INDEX SO

806
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,120
IT TAKES THE FINGERPRINT OF THE

807
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,920
CHEMICAL AND SEARCHES IN REAL

808
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,080
TIME AGAINST THE ENTIRE LIBRARY

809
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,040
OF CHEMICALS.

810
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,240
IN THE DASHBOARD ITSELF WE SET A

811
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,760
THRESHOLD OF POINT 8 SO YOU ONLY

812
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,120
SEE THINGS ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD

813
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,480
BUT THE TOOL YOU CAN FIND IT

814
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,960
SIMILAR BASED ON CHANGING THAT

815
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,320
INDEX YOU CAN MOVE THAT AND IT

816
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,720
WILL GIVE YOU A MUCH BIGGER LIST

817
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,760
SO IT'S NOT A MANUAL CURATION

818
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,920
PROCESS FOR SIMILARITY SEARCH.

819
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,360
FOR RELATED SUBSTANCES, IT IS.

820
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,640
IT'S BOTH AN ALGORISM  AND AS

821
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,360
WELL AS MANUAL.

822
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,160
AND THE SECOND QUESTION, WHEN

823
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,480
LOOKING AT CHEMICAL HAZARDS, HOW

824
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,840
IS THE INFORMATION GENERATED ON

825
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,120
SDS TEND TO BE SLIGHTLY

826
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,600
DIFFERENT BETWEEN DIFFERENT

827
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,040
CHEMICAL SUPPLIERS.

828
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600
THE TOXICITY DATA ARE CURATED BY

829
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,840
THE TOXICITY TEAM.

830
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160
IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE EXPOSURE

831
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,240
DATA, WE ARE HARVESTING FROM

832
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,920
DIFFERENT CHEMICAL SUPPLIERS

833
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,480
LIKE HOME DEEP OPEN AND THINGS

834
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,320
LIKE THIS, SO WHAT WE DO IS WE

835
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,560
USE TOOLS TO EXTRACT TEXT FROM

836
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,360
THOSE INDIVIDUALS SAFETY DATA

837
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,520
SHEETS AND WE ALSO HAVE CURATION

838
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,640
APPROACHES THEN AND EVERY

839
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,400
CHEMICAL THAT IS MAPPED INTO OUR

840
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,000
CURATION SYSTEM THAT SYSTEM IS

841
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,120
CALLED CHEM REG AND CURATOR IS

842
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,520
LOOKING AT THAT INFORMATION AND

843
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:11,040
THAT IS BUILT UP IN FACTTOTUM

844
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,680
AND WE WILL RELEASE IT TO THE

845
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,640
COMMUNITY AND THE NEXT YEAR OR

846
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,200
SO AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM TO PUSH

847
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:19,520
BACK.

848
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,000
I HOPE THAT ANSWERED THE

849
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,280
QUESTION.

850
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,960
WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ASKING

851
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,800
IF THESE SLIDES ARE AVAILABLE TO

852
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,880
THE AUDIENCE AUDIENCE.

853
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,640
>> I CAN SHARE WOMEN BUT THERE

854
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,880
MAY BE SUPPLIED OTHERWISE CAN I

855
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,200
PUT IN MY E-MAIL ADDRESS AND

856
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:44,840
SHARE THEM DIRECTLY.

857
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,640
>> I BELIEVE SOME WILL BE MADE

858
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:46,920
AVAILABLE.

859
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,840
>> MY E-MAIL IS THERE AND THANK

860
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,440
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO

861
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:50,800
SPEAK.

862
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,920
I HOPE I STAYED ON TIME.

863
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,440
>> WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE

864
00:32:53,440 --> 00:33:00,280
QUESTIONS COMING THROUGH.

865
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,080
>> HOW CAN AND WILL THE DATA

866
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,800
INFO BE USED TO UPDATE THE EPA

867
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,520
CHEMICAL COMPATIBILITY CHART?

868
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,920
>> SO, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF

869
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,800
GROUPS INSIDE THE AGENCY THAT

870
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,120
ARE USING THE DATA ON A DAILY

871
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,960
BASIS AND IT'S USED ACROSS THE

872
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,280
AGENCY FOR MANY PURPOSES.

873
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,760
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT

874
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280
IT'S A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT

875
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,920
WILL MAKE USE OF THE DATA ALL I

876
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,040
KNOW IS WHEN PEOPLE USE IT, THEY

877
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,320
APPROACH US AND ENGAGE WITH US

878
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:37,120
SOMETIMES AND NOT ALWAYS.

879
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,120
THE DATA IS AVAILABLE FOR

880
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,040
EVERYBODY TO USE.

881
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,560
I CAN'T SAY.

882
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,040
>> WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE?

883
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,120
>> WE'VE GOT TO GET MOVING.

884
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,640
WE'RE INTO LINDA'S BUT THANK YOU

885
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,760
SO MUCH, TONY.

886
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:52,040
YOU HAVE TONY EASY MAL'S 'S
MALE.

887
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:59,760
GREA'S E-MAIL.LYNN DARK ARE YOU
ON?

888
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,760
>> YES, I AM.

889
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,920
>LINDA,ARE YOU ON.

890
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,120
>> I AM.

891
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,000
>> SHE PREVIOUSLY WORKED AS A

892
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,280
CONSULTANT PERFORMING VIRAL SITE

893
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,600
ASSESSMENTS IN WATER AND

894
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,200
WASTEWATER WORK AND WORKED FOR

895
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,440
THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON

896
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,200
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY WRITING

897
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,120
TITLE 4 AND TITLE 5 AIR PERMITS

898
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,840
AND LATER HAZARD WASTE PERMITS

899
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,680
AND SHE WENT BACK TO SCHOOL FOR

900
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,680
A PH.D TO FOCUS ON ENVIRONMENTAL

901
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,080
HEALTH AND NOW WORKS IN HUMAN

902
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,400
HEALTH RISK ASSESSMENTS AND SHE

903
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,200
MAINTAINS CHEMICAL DATABASE MAY

904
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,560
TRICKS AND THE SCROOG SCREENING
AND SHE HA
S

905
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,680
A SME FOR PFAS AND SHE'S ON

906
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,720
DETAIL TO EPA OFFICE TO WORK ON

907
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:53,600
ADDING PFAS TO THE APPENDIX 8.

908
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:53,840
WELCOME.

909
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,680
>> THANK YOU.

910
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,560
>> NICE TO SEE YOU.

911
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,560
DO YOU HAVE JURY SLIDES READY TO

912
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:57,920
ROLL?

913
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,720
>> YES.

914
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:05,720
I'M GOING TO SHARE MY CONTENT

915
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:14,200
AND SWITCH OVER TO POWERPOINT.

916
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,320
I HAVE TO ALWAYS ADJUST THE

917
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,520
WINDOW.

918
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:17,920
THANK YOU.

919
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,080
>> IS IT FILLING YOUR SCREEN

920
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,720
NOW?

921
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:27,120
THE SLIDES PE PERFECT.

922
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,440
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

923
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,280
I'LL JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE

924
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,120
RESEARCH I'VE BEEN DOING INTO

925
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,040
THE HISTORICAL USAGE OF PFAS.

926
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:41,080
JUST A VERY BRIEF TIMELINE.

927
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,720
CARBON TETRA FLUORIDE WAS

928
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:45,720
PRODUCED IN 1886 IT'S NOT A

929
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:46,840
PFAS.

930
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,800
DEFINITIONS, RIGHT.

931
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,720
BUT THE FIRST FLURRY OWE POLYMER

932
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:56,240
WAS PATENTED IN 1934 AND PTFE

933
00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:00,600
WAS DISCOVERED IN 1938 AND PFAS

934
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,520
WERE REALLY STARTED MAKING IN

935
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,440
THE 1940s AND THEN IN THE

936
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,920
50s THEY STARTED TO BECOME A

937
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,720
PART OF INDUSTRIAL APPLICATIONS.

938
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:10,720
SO, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT

939
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,080
OF TIME ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK

940
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,680
EVERYONE KNOWS PFAS IS

941
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,160
ASSOCIATED WITH FIREFIGHTING AND

942
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,960
SPECIFICALLY FILM FORMING FOAM

943
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:28,720
AND IT STARTED BEING USED AND

944
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,520
THE OWN REAL NOTE IS THE DOD

945
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:39,960
ENDED THE AFFF IN 2017 SO THAT

946
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,400
POSF CON BE ABOVE THE WAN

947
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,120
TAILLIGHT ADVERTISE LIMIT AND

948
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,920
THE GENERAL CLASS IN AFFFF.

949
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,120
THEY ARE USED IN METAL PLATING

950
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,840
THE MAIN SPECIFIC USE IS THAT

951
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,600
THEY'RE USED AS A WEDDING AGENT

952
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,320
AND FUME SUPPRESS ENTER FOR

953
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,280
MEDAL PLATING SPECIFICALLY FOR

954
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,160
CHROME YUM AND SO IT HELPS METAL

955
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,720
DUST FROM COMING OUT OF THE

956
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:12,920
BATH.

957
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,120
IT'S BEEN USED FOR THIS

958
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,640
SCIENCEs.

959
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560
PFOS IS PHASED OUT BUT THEY'RE

960
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,920
NOT MENTIONED WHEN THE EPA

961
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
PHASED OUT PFOS.

962
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,280
IT'S REALLY ASSOCIATED WITH

963
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,640
CHROME PLATING BUT IT'S USED

964
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,040
WITH OTHER PLATING TOO AND THE

965
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,600
PFAS CAN BE USED TO TREAT THE

966
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,480
METAL SURFACES ALSO.

967
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,920
SINCE THE '50s, PFAS HAS BEEN

968
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,600
USED EXTENSIVELY WITH TEXTILES

969
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,480
TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY T REPEL

970
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,920
WATER OIL AND STAINS AND THIS IS

971
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,800
ALL TYPES OF CLOTHING AND OUTER

972
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,920
WARE AND HOUSEHOLD TEXTILES LIKE

973
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,200
CARPETS AND ALSO WITH TECHNICAL

974
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,120
TEXT TILES, BECAUSE OF PFAS'S

975
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,320
UNIQUE PROPERTIES THEY'RE GOOD

976
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,960
FOR PROTECTING TEXT TILES IN

977
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,520
HIGH TEMPERATURES AND CORROSIVE

978
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,040
ENVIRONMENT AND THIS CAN MEAN

979
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,640
TAKING A TEXTILE AND LIKE

980
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,800
APPLYING YOUR NOT SPRAYING BUT

981
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,640
COATINCOATING IT WITH THE PFAS
OR TO

982
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,520
MAKE ANOTHER LAYER BUT THE FLOOR

983
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,440
POLYMER CELLS CAN BE WOVEN INTO

984
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,520
TEXT STYLES SO SOME FIREFIGHTING

985
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,120
CLOTHING, THERE'S ACTUALLY LIKE

986
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:43,080
A LAYER OF FLOOR POLYMER WITHIN

987
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,280
THERE.

988
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,720
THEY'VE BEEN USED IN PLASTICS AS

989
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,120
PROCESSING AIDS, ALSO KNOWN AS

990
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,160
RAW MATERIALS AND SO FOR EXAMPLE

991
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:58,360
WHEN YOU MAKE FLUR OPOLYMER S

992
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,320
AND I AM EXTINGUISHING NOT THE

993
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,280
NON POLYMER AND THE POLYMER.

994
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,120
YOU USE THE NON POLYMER AS A

995
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,520
PROCESSING AID TO MAKE THE

996
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,360
POLYMER, THE FLOOR POLYMER.

997
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,720
AND THE FLOOR POLYMER HAVE USE

998
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:21,920
THIS IS CONSUMER AND INDUSTRIAL

999
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:41,760
PRODUCTS.

1000
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,400
THEY'VE BEEN USED TO PROVIDE OIL

1001
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,640
AND WATER RESISTANCE TO PAPER

1002
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,200
PRODUCTS FOR BOTH FOOD USE AND

1003
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,320
NON FOOD USE.

1004
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,920
YOU NAME THE TYPE OF PAPER,

1005
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,720
THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY IT'S

1006
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,080
THE NEWS DID IT.

1007
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,680
OFTEN PFAS IS ADDED TO THE PULP,

1008
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,680
THE PAPER-MAKING STAGE WHERE YOU

1009
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,040
STILL WITHIN THE PULP.

1010
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,760
THEY CAN ALSO BE USED LATER ON

1011
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,160
TO SPRAY A LAYER LATER ON AFTER

1012
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:17,000
THE PAPER HAS BEEN CREATED, I

1013
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,200
GUESS.

1014
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,040
THEY HAVE PLENTY OF USES IN

1015
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,400
ELECTRONICS AND THEY'VE BEEN

1016
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,800
USED AS LUBRICANTS.

1017
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:30,880
THEY'RE AGAIN THE FLOOR POLYMER

1018
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,120
TO PROTECT FROM MOISTURE AND

1019
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,240
CORROSION FOR EASY PLANE AND

1020
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,920
THEY'VE BEEN USED IN BATTERY

1021
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,880
ELECTRIC ROW LIGHTS AND FLUID

1022
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,720
AND FOR HEAT EXCHANGING THE

1023
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,320
PHOTO IN THE UPPER-RIGHT, WITH

1024
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:53,320
THE BLUE LIGHT, THAT IS ACTUALLY

1025
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,680
A COMPUTER SERVER IMMERSED IN

1026
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,520
LIQUID AND THE LICK I HAD IS A

1027
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,520
PFAS AND IT PROVIDES BETTER HEAT

1028
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,800
EXCHANGE PROPERTIES THAN THE

1029
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,080
AIR.

1030
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,720
THEY'RE USED EXTENSIVELY IN THE

1031
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,280
SEMI CONDUCTOR INDUSTRY TO

1032
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,120
REDUCE SURFACE TENSION WHEN

1033
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,560
ETCHING AND AGAIN FOR CLEANING

1034
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:19,080
AND POLISHING THE VARIOUS TYPES

1035
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,280
OF ELECTRONICS.

1036
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,360
ONE ADDITIONAL USE I FOUND, NOT

1037
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,640
EXACTLY ELECTRONICS BUT WHEN

1038
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,040
RECYCLING ELECTRONICS TO TRY TO

1039
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,880
REMOVE, RECAPTURE THE RARE EARTH

1040
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,520
METALS THAT ARE OFTEN USED IN

1041
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,440
ELECTRONICS, PFAS HAVE BEEN USED

1042
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,760
IN THAT METAL RECYCLING STEP TO

1043
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,960
GET THOSE RARE EARTH METALS.

1044
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,600
PFAS ARE USED IN PHOTO' AND

1045
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,120
LITHE OGRAPHY FOR MANUFACTURING

1046
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,280
FILM, PAPER, PLATES.

1047
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,840
THEY'RE ADDED TO PHOTO THERMO

1048
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,360
GRAPHIC MATERIAL USED FOR

1049
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,680
MEDICAL DIAGNOSTICS AND THEY'RE

1050
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,840
USED A AS AN ANTI REFLECTIVE

1051
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:10,080
CODING IN THE PHOTO.

1052
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,880
LOTS OF LEANING PRODUCTS HAVE

1053
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,240
PFAS IN THEM.

1054
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,080
MANY INDUSTRIAL CONSUMER

1055
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:21,120
CLEANING PRODUCTS, CARPET

1056
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160
CLEANERS, SHAMPOO, FLOOR POLISH,

1057
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,360
THEY POSSIBLY HAVE IT IN THERE.

1058
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,120
THEY'RE REALLY USEFUL, IT'S HOSE

1059
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,720
HARSH CONDITIONS SO WHEN YOU

1060
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:33,520
HAVE A CLEANER USED FOR A STRONG

1061
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,800
ACID OR A BASE.

1062
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,720
LIKE FOR CLEANING CONCRETE, PFAS

1063
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,800
WORKS WELL ON THOSE.

1064
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,160
AND ALSO, THERE'S A COUPLE OF,

1065
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,560
ALONG WITH CLEANING DRY CLEANING

1066
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,440
TEXT TILES AS PERK HAS BEEN

1067
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,240
FACED OUT THEIR REPLACEMENT

1068
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:55,520
SYSTEMS THAT USE PFAS.

1069
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,320
PLENTY OF -- I'M JUST GROUPING

1070
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,000
THESE AS CODINGS SO YOUR WAXES,

1071
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,400
PAINT, INK, VANISHES, THINGS

1072
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,280
WHERE YOU CODE A SURFACE AND THE

1073
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,720
PFAS IS USED TO REDUCE THE

1074
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,600
SURFACE TENSIONS T TO IT ALLOWS

1075
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,560
THE CODING TO BE SPREAD EVENLY

1076
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,760
AND YOU DON'T GET THE BUBBLING

1077
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,280
OR YOU DON'T GET THE -- THERE'S

1078
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,520
DIFFERENT TERMS OF, IN OTHER

1079
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,520
WORDS, YOU GET THAT NICE LEVEL

1080
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,600
CODING OF WHATEVER IT IS YOU ARE

1081
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,720
USING, YOUR PAINT OR YOUR INK.

1082
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,680
AND THEY'RE ALSO USED ON GLASS,

1083
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,200
METAL AND PLASTIC SURFACES SUCH

1084
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,560
AN ANTI MIST FILM AND IT

1085
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,480
PREVENTS FOGGING AND THERE'S A

1086
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,360
PAPER WHERE SOME SCIENTISTS

1087
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,880
ANALYZED CONSUMABLE -- CONSUMER

1088
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,040
EYE GLASS CLEANERS LIKE THE

1089
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:47,680
SPRAY OR A CLOTHE THAT IS USED

1090
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,040
TO PREVENT FOGGING ON EYE GLASS

1091
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,240
AND IT HAD PFAS IN IT.

1092
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,560
WITH PESTICIDES, PFA HAVE BEEN

1093
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,560
USED BOTH AS AN ACTIVE

1094
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:05,440
INGREDIENINGREDIENT AND THERE
HAVE BEEN

1095
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,720
SEVERAL REGISTERED - CONDITION
THE

1096
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:10,760
UNITED STATES THERE'S BEEN

1097
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,160
PESTICIDES AND NONE OF THEM ARE

1098
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,040
CURRENTLY ACTIVE ACCEPT FOR ONE

1099
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:21,280
EX THAT ONE IS AN IMPORT ISSUE

1100
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,520
AND YOU DON'T APPLY IT I CAN'T

1101
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,960
REMEMBER THE STATUS BECAUSE IT

1102
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,080
MAY HAVE TO DO WHEN YOU ARE

1103
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,960
IMPORTING IT BUT SOME HAVE BEEN

1104
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,720
USED PREVIOUSLY NOT ANYMORE AS

1105
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,360
THE INACTIVE INGREDIENTS THAT'S

1106
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,240
NOT THE INGREDIENT THAT IS

1107
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,840
KILLING THE PEST, WHATEVER THE

1108
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,440
PEST MIGHT BE.

1109
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,520
BUT IT HELPS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IN

1110
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,080
THE PHOTO THAT I GOT OFF OF

1111
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,680
PURDUE'S WEBSITE, IF YOU HAVE A

1112
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,440
LEAF AND YOU APPLY THE PESTICIDE

1113
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,720
IT MIGHT JUST BEAT UP ON TOP BUT

1114
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:02,320
IF YOU HAVE THE PFAS IT ALLOWS

1115
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,080
IT TO WET THE LEAF SO IT'S USED

1116
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,920
AS THE INACTIVE INGREDIENT

1117
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,600
GROULPREVIOUSLY.

1118
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,720
IT'S BEEN USED IN MEDICINE SINCE

1119
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:20,760
THE 60s, PFCs, PRODUCED AN

1120
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,120
EMOTION THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY

1121
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,800
BREATH THIS LIQUID IN THEORY.

1122
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:32,680
I MEAN THEY DID IT WITH RODENT

1123
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,920
STUDIES AND IF ANYONE HAS SEEN

1124
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,920
THE MOVIE "THE ABYSS," THERE'S A

1125
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,120
SCENE WHERE HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE

1126
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,840
A NAVY SEAL OR SOMETHING,

1127
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,720
THERE'S TALKING ABOUT AND YOU GO

1128
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:46,840
DEEP DIVING YOU DON'T BREATH OFF

1129
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,520
OF A GAS YOU BREATHE OFF OF THIS

1130
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,560
PINK LIQUID.

1131
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,640
I DON'T THINK -- I THINK IT'S

1132
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,840
SCIENCE FICTION BUT I'M SURE IT

1133
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,600
WAS BASED ON THIS WHERE YOU ARE

1134
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,880
BREATHING FROM THAT PFC EMULSION

1135
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,920
BUT THAT SAME TYPE OF EMULSION

1136
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,600
IS A SUBSTITUTE BLOOD LIQUID.

1137
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,320
IT'S NOT USED WITHIN THE UNITED

1138
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:09,760
STATES.

1139
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:16,040
IT WAS INITIALLY LOOKED AT FLOOR

1140
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,440
SOL WAS THE '70s TO THE '90s

1141
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,000
IT WAS A INTRA VASCULAR EMULSION

1142
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,800
TO CARRY OXYGEN BUT PFAS ARE

1143
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,920
USED IN MEDICAL DIAGNOSTICS

1144
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,920
TYPES OF APPLICATIONS AND

1145
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,320
THERE'S A COUPLE OF PFAS THAT

1146
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,120
ARE IN FACT EITHER CURRENTLY ARE

1147
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,640
OR USED TO BE -- I'M NOT SURE

1148
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,720
THE PROPER TERM BUT IN OTHER

1149
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:46,120
WORDS THE FDA ALLOWED, IT'S NOT

1150
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,280
REGISTERED BUT IN OTHER WORDS

1151
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,800
DRUGS THAT COULD BE USED IN THE

1152
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,200
UNITED STATES.

1153
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,080
AND FINALLY PFAS ARE USED IN

1154
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,440
PLENTY OF IMPLANTABLE MATERIALS

1155
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,520
AND DEVICES THAT ARE USED IN

1156
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,400
CONTACT LENSES.

1157
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,160
SO, PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS, THIS

1158
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,720
IS A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR TO THE

1159
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,000
CODING IN THAT THE CODING

1160
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,600
PRODUCTS LIKE PAINTS AND THAT

1161
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,920
THE PFAS HELP IS -- THE PFAS

1162
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,160
PROVIDE THOSE PROPERTIES SO THAT

1163
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,160
THE COSMETICS OR THE SUNSCREEN,

1164
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,800
WHATEVER IT IS, CAN BE APPLIED

1165
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:27,440
WELL OVER THE SKIN AND IT ALSO

1166
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,520
PROVIDES OIL AND WATER

1167
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:30,800
RESISTANCE.

1168
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,080
THERE'S PLENTY OF PATENTS TOO ON

1169
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,400
LOTS OF ORAL CARE PRODUCTS.

1170
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,720
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE

1171
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:37,240
WERE ACTUALLY USED.

1172
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,200
AND OF COURSE, THE FAMOUS DENTAL

1173
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,720
FLOSS THAT CAN BE MADE FROM SPUN

1174
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:47,280
FLORY POLYMER.

1175
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,360
REFRIDGE RANTS, WE THINK A LOT

1176
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,000
OF WHAT GENERALLY PEOPLE WOULD

1177
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,040
CALL FLOORING AND BAR CON CAN BE

1178
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,720
USED AS REFRIDGER ANTS AND THEY

1179
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,000
HAVE THAT FUNCTIONAL AND

1180
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,120
SLIGHTLY DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN

1181
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:42,200
THE TWO.

1182
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,760
IT STABILIZES THE FOAM.

1183
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,200
EXPLOSIVES.

1184
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,280
SO SINCE THE '50s, PYROTECHNIC

1185
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,920
OXIDIZERS HAVE USED PFAS AND

1186
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,920
THEY'RE USED IN INFO RED

1187
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,480
TRACKING FLARES AND MTV, NOT

1188
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:08,760
MUSIC TELEVISION BUT MAGNESIUM

1189
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:17,320
TEFLON AND MTV IS USED FOR I FOR

1190
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,520
INFRARED FLARES AND TARGET

1191
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,320
AUGMENTATION AND THEY'RE USED IN

1192
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,080
INCENDIARY DER ARY DOCUMENT

1193
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,880
DESTRUCTION AND AGENT DEFEAT AND

1194
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,640
WAR HEADS AND ALL THOSE USED

1195
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,280
FLUOROPOLYMER AND SO THESE ARE

1196
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,040
WAR HEADS THAT REQUIRE

1197
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,600
IMPROVEMENT MECHANICAL PROPERTY

1198
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,840
AND STA BIT AT HIGH TEMPERATURES

1199
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,680
CAN HAVE A FLOORENNATED POLYMER

1200
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,480
IN THERE AND THERE'S LEVERAGE TO

1201
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,960
THENAR JE ENERGETIC MATERIAL
ITSELF

1202
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,200
BEING FLOOR INNATED.

1203
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,040
OIL AND GAS CAN USE PFA TO

1204
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,200
ENHANCE RECOVERY IN OIL AND GAS

1205
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:03,080
WELLS AND IMPROVE SUBTERRANEAN

1206
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,680
WETTING AND ALSO FOAM SAY BIG

1207
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,320
THING AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT

1208
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:11,560
APPLICATIONS THE PFAAS PROVIDE

1209
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,880
THE FOAM, NOT TOO MUCH OR TOO

1210
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,200
LITTLE.

1211
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,840
THAT'S PART OF THEIR USE IN THE

1212
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,120
WELLS.

1213
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,480
THEY ALSO CAN BE USED AS A

1214
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,720
EVAPORATION INHIB EIGHT OR FOR

1215
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,920
GASOLINE AND AIRCRAFT HYDRAULIC

1216
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,000
OILS OFTEN PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS

1217
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,920
HAVE PFAS IN THEM.

1218
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,680
THE MINING INDUSTRY HAS USED

1219
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,120
PFAS TO ENHANCE MEDICAL RECOVERY

1220
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,960
FROM OIL AND PARTICULARLY COPPER

1221
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,920
AND GOLD MINE BUT I HAVE

1222
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,760
REFERENCE TO OTHER TYPES OF

1223
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,320
METALS WHERE IT CAN BE USED IN

1224
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,920
THE METAL RECOVERY AND THE

1225
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,720
FLOTATION PROCESS TO SEPARATE

1226
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:55,880
THE MELTAL SALTS FROM SOILS CAN

1227
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:02,080
USE THE PFAS TO HELP WITH THAT.

1228
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,880
IT'S USED AS A MISS SUPPRESS

1229
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,920
ENTER SIMILAR WITH MEDICAL

1230
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:09,200
PLIGHTING.

1231
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,440
SO, IN CONCLUSION, PFAS HAVE

1232
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,800
BEEN USED IN A LARGE VARIETY OF

1233
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,480
INDUSTRIES AND SOMETIMES IT'S

1234
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,440
EASIER TO SAY WHAT THEY HAVEN'T

1235
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,920
BEEN USED IN THAN WHAT THEY

1236
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,840
MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN BUT YOU MIGHT

1237
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,040
BE WRONG BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE

1238
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,120
BEEN USED IN.

1239
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,400
CONSUMER  AND INDUSTRIAL

1240
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:27,840
PRODUCTS.

1241
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,720
IT SHOULD BE KNOWN THAT IN MANY

1242
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:35,320
CASES, THE PFAS IS 1% BY VOLUME

1243
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,360
OF WHATEVER IT IS.

1244
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,160
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MIGHT HAVE

1245
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,320
PAINT AND MAYBE JUST 1% BY

1246
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,760
VOLUME OF THE PAINT IS PFAS

1247
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,200
BECAUSE YOU JUST NEED A LITTLE

1248
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,960
TO PROVIDE WHATEVER PROPERTY IT

1249
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,400
IS THAT IT'S BEING ADDED FOR.

1250
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,000
AND IN A LOT OF APPLICATIONS

1251
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,280
IT'S NOT CLEAR WHICH PFA IS IS

1252
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,000
BEING USED.

1253
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,720
YOU MIGHT TRACK IT DOWN TO OK,

1254
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:01,760
IT'S A FLOOR INNATED GAS AND

1255
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,200
THAT'S ALL I KNOW.

1256
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,600
SOMETIMES YOU CAN FIND THE

1257
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,760
SPECIFIC PFAS THOUGH.

1258
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,600
IN ANY EVENT, THIS TYPE OF

1259
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,320
INFORMATION IS HOPEFULLY HELPFUL

1260
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,800
WHEN INVESTIGATING WHAT TYPES OF

1261
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,320
SITES MIGHT HAVE CONTAMINATION.

1262
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,800
I WANTED TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES

1263
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,240
WHO HAVE HELPED ME WITH THIS.

1264
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,120
I FOUND SOURCES WITH A NAME PFAS

1265
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,720
IS SENDING IT FOR EXAMPLE TO

1266
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:32,040
TONY WILLIAMS AND OTHERS SAYING

1267
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,320
CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THIS IN THE

1268
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,520
DASHBOARD, WHATEVER THIS THING

1269
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:36,680
IS.

1270
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,120
SO WE CAN GET CAST NUMBERS OR

1271
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,320
THE DTXSIB FOR THE WAY OF

1272
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,400
IDENTIFYING THE COMPOUND.

1273
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,840
I HAVE WRITTEN A PAPER AND IT'S

1274
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,120
BEEN ACCEPTED FOR PUBLICATION

1275
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,680
WITH REVISIONS AT A PUBLICATION

1276
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,120
AND I AM CURRENTLY TRYING TO

1277
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,680
FINALIZE ALL THE DIFFERENT

1278
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,240
REVISIONS AND ADDING IN A COUPLE

1279
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,160
OF MORE REFERENCES SO THAT I CAN

1280
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,640
FINALLY GET THIS PUBLISHED AS I

1281
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,120
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR

1282
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:10,440
ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

1283
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,720
THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

1284
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:15,120
>> LINDA, WE HAVE A COUPLE

1285
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,440
QUESTIONS HERE.

1286
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,760
THE FIRST QUESTION, WHAT USAGE

1287
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,960
OF PFAS DO YOU THINK CREATED THE

1288
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,640
BIGGEST ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD OR

1289
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,400
HEALTH RISK?

1290
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,120
>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DIFFICULT

1291
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,640
QUESTION TO ANSWER BECAUSE I

1292
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,680
FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME USES,

1293
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,880
TYPES OF SITES OUT THERE THAT,

1294
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:38,800
WELL, WE HAVEN'T INVESTIGATED

1295
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,800
THAT SITE SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW

1296
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:46,680
MUCH CONTAMINATION IS THERE.

1297
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,120
THERE'S NOT A USE, BUT I THINK

1298
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,200
LANDFILLS AND WHAT I WOULD TERM

1299
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,400
AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER

1300
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,000
DUMPS, YOU KNOW, THE NOT REALLY

1301
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,760
ANE ENGINEER LANDFILL.

1302
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,200
THEY'RE THE SERIOUS PROBLEM FROM

1303
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,520
THESE LANDFILLS AND THE DUMPS.

1304
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,200
OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT REALLY A

1305
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,600
USE BUT IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN ALL

1306
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,720
THIS WASTE GOES IN THERE, AND WE

1307
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:13,800
HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKING FOR IT.

1308
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,880
AND I THINK FIREFIGHTING FOAM IS

1309
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,640
A PROBLEM, NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE

1310
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,120
OF THE AMOUNT OF PFAS IF THERE

1311
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,000
BUT IT'S ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS

1312
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,280
WHERE WHEN IT WAS USED, IN OTHER

1313
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,520
WORDS, YOU MIGHT HAVE LIKE FOR

1314
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,920
EXAMPLE AN OPEN FIELD WITH A

1315
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,560
FIRE AND SO YOU ARE APPLYING

1316
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,240
THIS FOAM DIRECTLY TO THE FIELD

1317
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,040
AND THEN IT CAN GO INTO THE

1318
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:34,320
SOIL.

1319
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,840
WHICH IS A PROBLEM.

1320
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,480
AS OPPOSED TO YOU KNOW, OTHER

1321
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,640
APPLICATIONS WHERE MAYBE YOU ARE

1322
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,560
CATCHING THE WASTEWATER.

1323
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,280
SO, I WILL SAY CONVERSELY, ONE

1324
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,680
OF THE PROBLEMS I'VE SEEN WITH

1325
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,200
SOME OF THESE SITES IS THAT, SO,

1326
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,880
FOR EXAMPLE, METAL PLATING.

1327
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,080
MAYBE THE WASTEWATER IS BEING

1328
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,280
PROPERLY DEALT WITH, EXCEPT FOR

1329
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,560
THE FACT YOU DIDN'T KNOW -- YOU

1330
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,680
THOUGHT YOU WERE GETTING THE

1331
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:05,680
METALS OUT, YOU DIDN'T ME YOU

1332
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,160
NEED TO GET OUT ORGANIC

1333
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,160
CHEMICALS OR SOMETHING LIKE

1334
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:08,360
THAT.

1335
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,680
IN METAL PLATING, A THE LEAST AT

1336
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,880
SOME PLACES, IT'S ACTUALLY THE

1337
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,920
AIRY MISSIONS, THE PFAS ARE

1338
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,320
GOING OUT THE STACK AND THEN SO

1339
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,160
NOW YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT

1340
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,760
STORMWATER AND WHERE THAT WENT.

1341
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,880
SO, YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S

1342
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,920
EASY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION

1343
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,840
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE

1344
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,920
DIFFUSES AND TRYING TO TRACK

1345
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,760
DOWN THE SOURCE OF WHERE THE

1346
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,320
PFAS IS COMING FROM.

1347
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,520
>> THANK YOU, LINDA.

1348
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,520
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, IT

1349
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:49,040
SOUNDS THAT PFAS AND ASBESTOS

1350
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,920
HAVE SIMILAR PROPERTIES.

1351
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,120
IF ASBESTOS CONTAINED PFAS

1352
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,720
LEVELS ABOVE SEV -- WOULD IT BE

1353
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:00,360
CONSIDERED HAZARDOUS WASTE OR

1354
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,760
REMAIN A SPECIAL WASTE?

1355
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,320
>> GOOD GRIEF.

1356
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:04,680
 [LAUGHTER]  

1357
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,200
NOW THERE'S A QUESTION -- I'D

1358
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,160
LIKE TO THINK THE PERSON WHO

1359
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,200
ASKED THAT QUESTION NOW YOU HAVE

1360
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,760
TO GO DOWN YET ANOTHER RABBIT

1361
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:15,960
HOLE.

1362
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,000
I DO NOT KNOW IF PFAS HAD THE

1363
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,200
USE OF ASBESTOS BUT I PROMISE I

1364
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,520
WILL SEE IF I CAN FIND

1365
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,520
INFORMATION ON THAT.

1366
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,560
OH, GOSH, LET'S MAKE IT MORE

1367
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:30,880
COMPLICATED.

1368
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:31,280
 [LAUGHTER]  

1369
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,520
I DON'T KNOW AT THIS MOMENT IN

1370
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:33,880
TIME.

1371
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:34,160
I'M SORRY.

1372
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,720
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

1373
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:37,120
>> OK.

1374
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:37,480
THANK YOU.

1375
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,640
JAMES, JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN

1376
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,480
WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME

1377
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,120
BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME MORE

1378
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,560
QUESTIONS COMING IN.

1379
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,600
THE NEXT, LINDA, IS WE NEED MORE

1380
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,000
RESEARCH IN 777-450 SAFE MINING.

1381
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,120
IS THERE A WAY WITHOUT USING

1382
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,520
PFAOS IT SEEMS CLEAR WE CAN DO

1383
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,960
IT SAFELY WITHOUT CREATING TOXIC

1384
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,920
AND WE NEED RESEARCH THERE.

1385
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,120
>> YEAH.

1386
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,560
YOU KNOW, IT'S -- SO, I THINK

1387
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,640
SOMETHING THAT I HAVE LEARNED

1388
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,880
WHEN I'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO ALL

1389
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,040
OF THIS IS THAT, I DON'T THINK

1390
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,920
THAT THE USE OF PFAS IS

1391
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,920
NECESSARILY A BAD THING.

1392
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,560
IN WHAT I MEAN ABOUT -- LOOK, MY

1393
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,120
BACHELORS IS CHEMICAL

1394
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,120
ENGINEERING AND I COME AT THINGS

1395
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,480
WAY BIAS VIEW.

1396
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,160
IF YOU ARE MINING AND THE PFAS

1397
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,120
IS THE BEST WAY TO SEPARATE THAT

1398
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,440
OR FROM THE SOIL, WHATEVER YOU

1399
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,080
ARE TRYING TO DO AND MAYBE BY

1400
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,680
USING THE PFAS YOU DON'T HAVE TO

1401
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,640
USE CYANIDE, I DON'T KNOW NOW

1402
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:43,920
ABOUT IT.

1403
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,160
THE REAL ISSUE WITH PFAS CON

1404
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,320
TEMPERATURE NATION
ICONTAMINATION, WE DIDN
'T KNOW IT

1405
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,080
WAS A PROBLEM BUT IF YOU HAVE AN

1406
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,320
APPLICATION WHERE YOU ARE

1407
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,840
RECOVERING THE WASTEWATER, YOU

1408
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,840
ARE MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NOT

1409
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,280
EMISSIONS COMING UP SO LIKE,

1410
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,040
WITH MINING, IF SOMEHOW OR

1411
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,560
ANOTHER, IF THE PFAS ARE USED

1412
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,920
AND ALL THE WASTEWATER IS

1413
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,920
RECOVERED AND IT'S TREATED OR

1414
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:08,720
IT'S RECYCLED, SO IN OTHER

1415
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,520
WORDS, YOU ARE NOT LETTING THE

1416
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:15,840
PFAS GO OUT INTO THE OPEN WATER,

1417
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,920
THEN -- THAT WOULD SEEM LIKE OK,

1418
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,080
THEN YOU CAN STILL USE IT BUT

1419
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,880
YOU ARE NOT CAUSING

1420
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,080
ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION.

1421
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,720
I DON'T THINK THE USE OF IT IS

1422
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:26,320
NECESSARILY A PROBLEM.

1423
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,400
I MEAN, I THINK IT REALLY

1424
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,920
DEPENDS ON REALIZING IT MIGHT BE

1425
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,520
IN THE WASTE STREAM AND FIGURING

1426
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:37,480
OUT WHAT YOU DO WITH THE WASTE

1427
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:37,800
STREAM.

1428
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,280
>> THANK YOU.

1429
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,960
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE HERE.

1430
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,520
IS PFAS AND IT PACKAGING?

1431
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,120
IF SO, SHOULD WE HAVE CRITERION

1432
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,040
IN THE ECO LABELS WE USE AND

1433
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,480
SUSTAINABLE PROCUREMENT TO

1434
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,800
INCENTIVIZE THE MANUFACTURER TO

1435
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,440
USE PACKAGING WHICH DOESN'T

1436
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,240
CONTAIN PFAS?

1437
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,880
>> YOU KNOW, SOMEONE HAD ASKED

1438
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,560
ME ABOUT ELECTRONICS PACKAGING A

1439
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,920
COUPLE MONTHS BACK.

1440
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,680
IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I DON'T

1441
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,280
KNOW.

1442
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,640
I THINK -- SO THERE'S TWO PARTS

1443
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,320
OF IT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL IS

1444
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,000
THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE

1445
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,880
LABELING ON THE PACKAGING, THE

1446
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,680
LABEL ITSELF, IN OTHER WORDS,

1447
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,280
THAT INK MIGHT HAVE PFAS.

1448
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,280
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT

1449
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,240
TYPE OF PACKAGING DO YOU HAVE?

1450
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:38,400
BECAUSE IF IT'S A PLASTIC, IS IT

1451
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,800
FLOOR A POLYMER OR NON FLORA

1452
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,840
POLYMER?

1453
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:44,840
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT'S USED

1454
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,840
BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTIES.

1455
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,360
IT WOULD HAVE -- I THINK WE

1456
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,520
WOULD HAVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT

1457
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,960
TYPE OF PACKAGING IT IS.

1458
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,600
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF

1459
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,480
A -- IS IT PAPER?

1460
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,120
IS IT PLASTIC?

1461
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:02,600
IS IT CARDBOARD, I DON'T KNOW.

1462
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:02,920
WHATEVER.

1463
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,520
>> THANK YOU.

1464
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,480
AND THEN WE HAVE A QUESTION HOW

1465
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,120
LONG HAS PFAS BEEN USED BY THE

1466
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,960
OMN EXPLORATION INDUSTRY?

1467
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,000
COULD ANY OF THE BANNED

1468
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,520
PESTICIDES WITH PFAS BE USED

1469
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,320
ILLEGALLY BY MARIJUANA GROWERS,

1470
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,920
AKA CARTELS AND PUBLIC LANDS?

1471
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,320
>> WOW, Y'ALL HAVE INTERESTING

1472
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:26,960
QUESTIONS.

1473
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:32,880
WITH THE OIL -- I'M ASSUMING O

1474
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,560
AND G MEANS OIL AND GAG AND HOW

1475
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,600
LONG HAS IT BEEN USED?

1476
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,680
I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY.

1477
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,120
BASED ON THE MATERIAL I HAVE, I

1478
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,480
WANT TO SAY DECADES.

1479
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,480
AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THOSE SINCE

1480
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,120
DEFINITELY SINCE LIKE THE 50s

1481
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,760
IT'S BEEN USED IN THOSE

1482
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,000
INDUSTRIAL AND SO MAYBE CONTINUE

1483
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:03,720
THE 50s AND NOT TOO LONG AFTER

1484
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,400
THAT.

1485
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,400
I WOULD SAY DECADES.

1486
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,680
WITH REGARDS TO MARIJUANA

1487
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,120
GROWERS, I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT

1488
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,040
QUESTION BEFORE.

1489
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,280
SO, THERE ARE, I THINK THERE ARE

1490
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,760
A COUPLE OF -- WELL OK, THERE'S

1491
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,560
TWO PARTS OF THAT.

1492
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,520
DO YOU MEAN THE ACTIVE

1493
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,560
INGREDIENT OR THE INACTIVE

1494
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,040
INGREDIENTS AND SO WITH REGARDS

1495
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:41,000
TO ACTIVE INGREDIENTS, I THINK

1496
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,760
THERE A COUPLE IN THE WORLD THAT

1497
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,840
HAVE PFAS BUT IF YOU TALK ABOUT

1498
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,120
THE INACTIVE INGREDIENTS, BEING

1499
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,800
USED TO HELP IT GET INTO THE

1500
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,320
LEAF, UM -- I THINK IT'S STILL

1501
01:01:55,320 --> 01:02:00,400
USED IN SOME FORMULATIONS.

1502
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,920
PROBABLY IT SHOULD ALSO BE

1503
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,560
NOTED, PART OF THE ISSUE WITH

1504
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,600
PESTICIDES AND WHEN SUCH IS HOW

1505
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:13,840
DO YOU DEFINE A PFAS AND THAT IS

1506
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,320
OUR PAPER WHICH SHOULD BE COMING

1507
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,120
OUT TODAY OR TOMORROW AND THERE

1508
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,720
ARE SOME COMPOUNDS THAT WOULD

1509
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:26,560
MEET THE DESK OF A PFAS THAT THE

1510
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:27,560
FLOOR INNATED PREPORTION IS THE

1511
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:28,920
LEAST THING YOU NEED TO BE

1512
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,520
CONCERNED ABOUT AND SO, WHETHER

1513
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,200
OR NOT MARIJUANA GROWERS, SINCE

1514
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,320
THE EPA DOES -- SINCE MARIJUANA

1515
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:44,680
IS NOT LEGAL FEDERALLY, I KNOW

1516
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,920
THAT THE EPA CONDITION REGISTER

1517
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,120
PESTICIDES FOR MARIJUANA, WHICH

1518
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:58,160
IS KIND OF A PROBLEM SO, WHAT

1519
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,480
PESTICIDES THEY'RE USING IS IS A

1520
01:02:59,480 --> 01:02:59,920
DIFFERENT QUESTION.

1521
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:01,360
>> LINDA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1522
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,360
OBVIOUSLY ARE IN THE SIDE THE

1523
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:09,680
HOUSE AND YOUR COUNTERPARTS IN

1524
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,640
OCSPP HANDLE THAT STICKY POLICY.

1525
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,520
SO, ANYWAY.

1526
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,680
WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

1527
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,120
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT YOUR

1528
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,880
E-MAIL ADDRESS IN THE CHAT SO IF

1529
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,200
PEOPLE WANTED TO REACH OUT WITH

1530
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,120
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, THEY COULD

1531
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:26,920
DO THAT?

1532
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:27,680
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

1533
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:28,560
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1534
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,880
I WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW,

1535
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,560
WE'RE TAKING A BREAK FOR THE

1536
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:34,640
NEXT 15 MINUTES.

1537
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:42,800
SO, WE'LL GET STARTED AT 1:30.

1538
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,400
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

1539
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,960
QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU TO THE

1540
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:46,320
PRESENTERS.

1541
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,880
>> I GUESS WE'RE READY TO START.

1542
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,920
IT IS 1:30.

1543
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,040
WITH THE NEXT SET OF

1544
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,880
PRESENTATIONS.

1545
01:03:54,880 --> 01:04:01,840
THE FIRST ONE NOW IT WOULD BE

1546
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:16,360
ANALYTICAL APPROACHES BY

1547
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,080
ALEXANDER.

1548
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,040
SENIOR ADVISOR FOR CHEMICAL

1549
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,600
TOXICOLOGIST FOR SAFETY AND IN

1550
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:22,560
SPECTION SERVICE.

1551
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:28,000
IN HIS ROLE HE PROVIDES ADVICE,

1552
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,680
STRATEGY AND DIRECTION IN SENIOR

1553
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,320
LEADERSHIP ON SCIENTIFIC

1554
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,080
APPLICATIONS AND RELATIONS TO

1555
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,840
PRELIMINARY DRUGS, PESTICIDE AND

1556
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,720
CHEMICAL COMPONENTS IN FOOD.

1557
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,080
ALEXANDER HOLDS A DEGREE IN

1558
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,840
CHEMISTRY AND INTERNATIONAL STUD

1559
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,920
Y.

1560
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,600
AN MS DEGREE IN ENVIRONMENTAL

1561
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:55,160
HEALTH AND GEORGE WASHINGTON

1562
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:55,600
SCHOOL OF LAW.

1563
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:05,840
WITH THAT I LEAVE YOU ALEXANDER.

1564
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,400
>> THANK YOU, ALEXA.

1565
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,400
SO MY NAME IS ALEXANDER DOMESLE.

1566
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,360
I'M WITH THE FOOD SAFETY AND IN

1567
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,520
SPECTION SERVICE, WHICH IS

1568
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,920
PART OF THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF

1569
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:28,280
AGRICULTURE AND OUR MISSION IS

1570
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,040
TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF MEAT

1571
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,400
POULTRY AND EGG PRODUCTS IN THE

1572
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,120
UNITED STATES AND ALSO ENSURE

1573
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,560
THEY ARE PROPERLY LABELEDDED AND

1574
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,280
PACKAGED.

1575
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:45,640
SO WHILE MANY ARE MORE FAMILIAR

1576
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,040
WITH THE FOOD AND DRUG

1577
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,240
ADMINISTRATION THAT REGULATES

1578
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,800
MAJORITY OF OUR FOOD SUPPLY WE

1579
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,040
BASICALLY HAVE THE SAME FUNCTION

1580
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:58,320
S AS FDA, BUT FOCUS ONLY

1581
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,760
ON MEAT, POULTRY AND EGG

1582
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,280
PRODUCTS.

1583
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,840
OUR AGENCY OPERATES ACROSS THE

1584
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:05,080
COUNTRY.

1585
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:10,840
WE HAVE OVER 8,000 EMPLOYEES,

1586
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,440
MOST OF WHOM ARE FRONT-LINE WORK

1587
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,360
ERS, MEANING THEY ARE

1588
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,720
INSPECTORS AND PUBLIC HEALTH

1589
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,320
VETERINARIANS THAT WORK IN

1590
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,000
SLAUGHTER ESTABLISHMENTS AND

1591
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,040
PROCESSING ESTABLISHMENTS AND IN

1592
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,840
SPECT EITHER ON A CONTINUOUS

1593
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,080
OR ON A DAILY BASIS THE OP

1594
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:37,320
ERATIONS IN THOSE PLANTS.

1595
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:42,200
SO THERE IS A TOTAL OF 6500

1596
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,360
FEDERALLY REGULATED ESTABLISH

1597
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,280
MENTS, AND AS I MENTION

1598
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:47,200
ED DEPENDING ON THE TYPE

1599
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,960
OF ESTABLISHMENT THEY EITHER

1600
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,920
ALWAYS HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR MORE

1601
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,480
GOVERNMENT INSPECTORS PRESENT OR

1602
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,600
AT LEAST HAVE INSPECTION COME BY

1603
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,280
ONCE A DAY WHEN THEY ARE OPERAT

1604
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,360
ING.

1605
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,480
THE VOLUME THAT FLOWS THROUGH

1606
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,640
THESE ESTABLISHMENTS IS, OF

1607
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,440
COURSE, VERY LARGE.

1608
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,880
LOTS AND LOTS OF ANIMALS ARE

1609
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,800
SLAUGHTERED EVERY YEAR INCLUDING

1610
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,640
MORE THAN 9 BILLION POULTRY

1611
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,560
CARCASSES/ANIMALS AND

1612
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,840
166 MILLION HEAD OF LIVESTOCK.

1613
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,800
THAT'S JUST AN INTRODUCTION TO

1614
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,080
KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT

1615
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:38,280
WE DO AND THE SCALE OF THE

1616
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,280
INDUSTRY THAT WE REGULATE.

1617
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:45,680
# SO I WANTED TO SHIFT NOW TO

1618
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,080
THE RELEVANT TOPIC OF WHY I WAS

1619
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,840
ASKED TO PRESENT DURING THIS

1620
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,560
CONFERENCE AND THAT OF COURSE IS

1621
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,320
HOW THIS RELATES TO MERGING CHEM

1622
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,720
ICALS AND SPECIFICALLY TO

1623
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,360
PFAS.

1624
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,440
I WON'T HAVE TO GO INTO MUCH DE

1625
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,480
TAIL ON PFAS THANKS TO LINDA'S

1626
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,440
PRESENTATION THAT PRECEDED MINE,

1627
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,320
BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES HERE AT

1628
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,320
FSIS AND THE KIND OF LARGER FOOD

1629
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,040
SAFETY REGULATORY COMMUNITY

1630
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:20,600
WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT A

1631
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,200
NARROWER SLICE OF THIS BIG PFAS

1632
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,680
PICTURE ON AGRICULTURE.

1633
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:30,880
THE TWO MAIN HALFWAYS THAT WE'VE

1634
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,360
OBSERVED ARE EITHER CONTAMINATED

1635
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,960
WATER BEING USED FOR WATERING

1636
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:44,840
CROPS OR ANIMALS AND THIS COULD

1637
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,440
OCCUR IN THE PROXIMITY OF

1638
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:50,920
INDUSTRIAL SOURCES OR IN THE

1639
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,640
PROXIMITY OF LOCATIONS SUCH AS

1640
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,400
AIRPORTS OR AIRPORTS BASES WITH

1641
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,880
A HISTORY OF A TRIPLE FUs.

1642
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,920
THE OTHER RIGHT, WHICH MAY BE

1643
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,200
MORE COMMON, BASED ON MY

1644
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,680
ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE IS THE

1645
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,400
SPREADING OF BIOSLUDGE ON TO

1646
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,480
FIELDS.

1647
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,040
SO IN THAT CASE, THIS CAN GO

1648
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,880
BACK IN SOME CASES YEARS OR

1649
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,080
DECADES BIOSLUDGE FROM WASTE

1650
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,640
WATER WAS CONTAMINATED TO

1651
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,680
PFAS DUE TO PROCESSING OF THE

1652
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,600
WASTEWATER AND THEN BIOSLUDGE IS

1653
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,920
SPREAD AS KIND OF A FERTILIZER

1654
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,280
ON TO FIELDS AND FROM THERE

1655
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,760
ANIMALS EITHER GRAZE DIRECTLY ON

1656
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:43,600
THOSE FIELDS OR FIELD CROPS ARE

1657
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,000
DIRECTLY ON THOSE FIELDS.

1658
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:49,680
WE'VE BEEN AT USDA AND FSIS

1659
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,320
SPECIFICALLY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED

1660
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,320
IN THESE PFAS ISSUES GOING BACK

1661
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,040
AS FAR AS 2008, ALTHOUGH REALLY

1662
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,040
THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS IT'S

1663
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,840
BECOME MUCH BROADER AND MORE

1664
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,360
GOVERNMENT-WIDE.

1665
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,320
NEXT, I'M GOING TO GIVE AN OUT

1666
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,480
LINE OF WHAT OUR SPECIFIC

1667
01:10:05,480 --> 01:10:06,760
ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN RELATED TO

1668
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,200
PFAS AND THIS IS REALLY, AS I

1669
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,840
MENTIONED, FOCUSED OVER THE LAST

1670
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,920
THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

1671
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,240
SO IT HAS BEEN A THREE-PRONGED

1672
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,840
APPROACHED ESSENTIALLY.

1673
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,800
THE FIRST THING DEVELOPING AN

1674
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,120
ANALYTICAL METHOD THAT ALLOWS US

1675
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,880
TO DETECT PFAS COMPOUNDS IN THE

1676
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,040
MEAT AND POULTRY PRODUCTS THAT

1677
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:29,480
WE REGULATE.

1678
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:32,080
ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT WE

1679
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:37,680
DEPLOY THIS METHOD TO OUR

1680
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,840
LABORATORIES AND I'LL SAY MORE

1681
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,840
ABOUT THE LABORATORIES IN A

1682
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,920
MOMENT AND WE NOW USE THAT

1683
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:52,320
METHOD IN TWO MAIN WAYS; THE ONE

1684
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,640
IS A NATIONAL SURVEILLANCE

1685
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,520
PROGRAM WHERE WE COLLECT MEAT

1686
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,840
AND POULTRY SAMPMS AND ADD

1687
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,640
SLAUGHTER AND TEST THEM FOR FSIS

1688
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,160
AND THE OTHER IS A MORE TARGETED

1689
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,960
SUPPORT OF STATES THAT ARE DEAL

1690
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,840
ING WITH SPECIFIC PFAS CON

1691
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:11,960
TAMINATION AT AN AFFECTED

1692
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:12,280
LOCATION.

1693
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,600
IN ALL OF THIS WE WORK VERY

1694
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,840
CLOSELY WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNER

1695
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,960
S, AS YOU CAN TELL FROM

1696
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,280
THE OUTSET, THE FOOD SAFETY

1697
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,840
SYSTEM IN OUR COUNTRY IS SPLIT

1698
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,440
BETWEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT

1699
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:29,080
AGENCIES AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS

1700
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,280
, LIKE PFAS THAT HAS SUCH

1701
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,320
BROAD ENVIRONMENTAL SOURCES AND

1702
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,480
IMPACTS IS GOING TO TOUCH ON THE

1703
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:40,320
REGULATORY AUTHORITY OF MULTIPLE

1704
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,280
AGENCIES.

1705
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,120
SO GOING TO THE FIRST PIECE,

1706
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,240
WHICH WAS THE DEVELOPMENT OF

1707
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,760
ANALYTICAL METHOD, WHAT I

1708
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,480
NEGLECTED TO STATE AT THE START

1709
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:56,960
WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR

1710
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,320
FRONT-LINE STAFF IS THAT IT

1711
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,880
CONSISTESS OF NOT ONLY FOOD LINE

1712
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,880
INSPECTORS AND HEALTH VETERINAR

1713
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,320
IANS AND OPERATE IN

1714
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,840
FOOD PROCESSING PLANTS IT ALSO

1715
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,840
CONSISTS OF BENCH SCIENTISTS

1716
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,640
THAT WORK IN ONE OF THREE USDA

1717
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:14,840
FSIS LABORATORIES LOCATED IN

1718
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,120
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY

1719
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:21,400
AND AS A ROUTINE MATTER THESE

1720
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:22,400
LABORATORIES ANALYZE TISSUE

1721
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:28,360
SAMPLES FOR A WIDE RANGE OF

1722
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,760
MICROBIALS LIKE SALMONELLA AND

1723
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:37,120
E. COLI, TRADITIONALLY FOCUSED

1724
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,040
ON DRUG RESIDUES AND PESTICIDE

1725
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:45,880
BUT INCREASINGLY METALS AND FSIS

1726
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,280
ARE PART OF THE TESTING PROGRAM.

1727
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,840
SIMILARLY TO THE OVERALL VOLUME

1728
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,360
OF ANIMALS THAT ARE PROCESSED

1729
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,920
AND SAM SAMPLES THAT ARE COLLECT

1730
01:12:54,920 --> 01:13:00,600
ED THE NUMBER OF ANALYSIS

1731
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,280
IN THE LANATORIES ARE VERY LARGE

1732
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,280
AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS

1733
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,960
THERE AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THEY

1734
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,600
ARE OUT OF DATE BY A COUPLE YEAR

1735
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:08,200
S, THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T

1736
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,880
CHANGED TOO MUCH.

1737
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,640
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO A TON

1738
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,040
OF DETAIL.

1739
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,520
THIS IS MORE OF THOSE WHO ARE

1740
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,040
INTERESTED IN THE MORE TECHNICAL

1741
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,880
ASPECTS OF THE ANALYTICAL METHOD

1742
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,280
, I'M NOT AN ANALYTICAL

1743
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,680
CHEMISTS BUT IF ANYONE HAS

1744
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:30,400
QUESTIONS ON THIS I CAN

1745
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,840
CERTAINLY REFER THOSE TO THE EX

1746
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,400
PERTS WITHIN THE AGENCY.

1747
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,800
I THINK THE KEY PIECES THAT I

1748
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,960
WANT TO GET ACROSS IS THAT WE DO

1749
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,520
HAVE THIS METHOD, IT IS VAL

1750
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,360
IDATED IN BEEF, BOTH IN BEEF

1751
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,880
MUSCLE AS WELL AS PLASMA, SO

1752
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,320
THAT'S ALLOWED SOME WORK I'LL

1753
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,920
MENTION LATER ON BLOOD SAMPLES

1754
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:54,880
TAKEN FROM LIVE ANIMALS, WHICH

1755
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,200
OF COURSE IS CONVENIENT BECAUSE

1756
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,840
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE SLAUGHTERING

1757
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,880
THE ANIMAL BEFORE A SAMPLE COULD

1758
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:03,720
BE TAKEN.

1759
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:09,880
THEN WE ALSO HAVE CAN DETECT

1760
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,320
BEEF, PORK, POULTRY AND FISH

1761
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,760
WHICH IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS CAT

1762
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,840
FISH WHICH IS ALSO SUBJECT TO

1763
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:19,200
FSIS REGULATION.

1764
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:23,280
THE REGULATION COVERS 16 PFAS

1765
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:23,840
COMPOUNDS.

1766
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,480
AS YOU KNOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS

1767
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:27,040
OF PFASS SO WITH THIS METHOD'S

1768
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,360
GOAL IS NOT TO SCAN FOR ALL OF

1769
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:32,360
THOSE BUT THE 16 COMPOUNDS THAT

1770
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:33,320
ARE IN THE METHOD ARE SOME OF

1771
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,120
THE MOST COMMON ONES THAT I'M

1772
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,480
SURE MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD OF

1773
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:41,840
THAT ARE CONCERNING IN FOOD.

1774
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,720
AND THIS IS ALSO NOT ECSTATIC,

1775
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,840
WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT ADDING

1776
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,920
ADDITIONAL COMPOUNDS PARTICULAR

1777
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,960
LY IF THEY ARE OF

1778
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,880
CONCERN IN MEAT AND POULTRY

1779
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:55,240
PRODUCTS.

1780
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,280
THE LAST THING ON THIS SLIDE TO

1781
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:04,520
POINT OUT IS WE CAN QUANTIFY

1782
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,720
DOWN PER BILLION.

1783
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,880
THAT SOUNDS GOOD AND ADEQUATE

1784
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,760
FOR OUR PURPOSE, BUT WITH MANY

1785
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:16,440
OF THESE CHEMICALS TESTING IS

1786
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:17,000
PROGRESSING, RESEARCH IS

1787
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:17,520
PROGRESSING IS EVENTUALLY

1788
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,320
SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO

1789
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,400
CONSIDER GOING FORWARD.

1790
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,080
THESE ARE THE 16 PFAS COMPOUNDS

1791
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:26,440
IN THE METHOD.

1792
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:28,360
I WOULD JUST JUMP PAST THOSE.

1793
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,800
THE METHOD IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON

1794
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:31,520
OUR WEBSITE IF ANYONE IS

1795
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,920
INTERESTED AND THIS IS THE

1796
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:38,920
EQUIPMENT THAT IS USED IN THE

1797
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,200
LABS.

1798
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,600
AND THIS IS THE LINK THAT I

1799
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:44,480
MENTIONED SO IF ANYONE IS

1800
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:46,880
INTERESTED IN SEEING THE DETAILS

1801
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,680
ON THE ACTUAL METHOD THAT'S

1802
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:56,720
AVAILABLE PUBLICLY.

1803
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,400
SO THE NEXT MAIN AREA THAT I

1804
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,520
WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IS THE

1805
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:01,280
NATIONAL SURVEILLANCE SAMPLING.

1806
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,720
SO I MENTIONED AT THE START ONCE

1807
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,280
WE DEVELOPED THE METHOD WE START

1808
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,000
ED USING IT IN A COUPLE

1809
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,880
DIFFERENT WAYS, ONE OF WHICH IS

1810
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,480
THIS NATIONAL MONITORING PROGRAM

1811
01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:14,960
, WHICH IS PART OF A

1812
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,480
LARGER ON-GOING EFFORT CALLED

1813
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:18,960
THE NATIONAL RESIDUE PROGRAM.

1814
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,280
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON

1815
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:23,880
THAT PROGRAM, ALREADY MENTIONED

1816
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:28,080
THAT IT TESTS FOR A WIDE, IT IN

1817
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,360
CLUDES MONITORING FOR A WIDE

1818
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,920
VARIETY OF PESTICIDE AS WELL AS

1819
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,080
VETERINARIAN DRUGS AND IN

1820
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,040
CREASING NUMBER OF CONTAM

1821
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,880
INANTS AS WELL.

1822
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,040
THE PROGRAM IS BUILT, OBVIOUSLY,

1823
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,880
ON A BASIS OF PUBLIC HEALTH TO

1824
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,200
ENSURE THAT HARMFUL CHEMICAL

1825
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,920
RESIDUEERIZE NOT PRESENT IN MEAT

1826
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,040
AND POULTRY PRODUCTS.

1827
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,280
IT ALSO SUPPORTS KIND OF COMPLI

1828
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,920
ANCE EFFORTS OF EPA AND FD

1829
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,520
A WITH REGARDS TO ENSURING

1830
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:05,520
THAT PESTICIDE ARE USED LEGALLY

1831
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,920
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LABEL AND

1832
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,160
VETERINARIAN DRUGS ARE USED IN

1833
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,280
ACCORDANCE WITH THE LABEL AND

1834
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,160
THE CHECK WE PERFORM TO ENSURE

1835
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,680
THAT THERE ARE NO UNLAWFUL

1836
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,080
RESIDUES IN THE MEATS SUPPORTS

1837
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:24,280
THOSE EFFORTS.

1838
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,080
SO THE, AS I MENTIONED THERE IS

1839
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,480
THE SURVEILLANCE PIECE, THERE IS

1840
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:33,400
ALSO THE PIECE OF REGULATORY

1841
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,720
FOLLOW-UP, SO SPECIFICALLY WITH

1842
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,360
PESTICIDE AND VETERINARIAN DRUGS

1843
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:39,840
THERE ARE LEGAL STANDARDS THERE

1844
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,840
AND IF THOSE ARE EXCEEDED THEN

1845
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,600
THERE IS REGULATORY FOLLOW-UP OF

1846
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,080
BOTH OUR AGENCY AND POTENTIALLY

1847
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,400
FDA AND EPA AS APPROPRIATE.

1848
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,760
SO THAT'S THE DISTINCTION TO THE

1849
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,440
PFAS AND CONTAMINANTS WE DON'T

1850
01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,400
OR AT LEAST DON'T YET HAVE

1851
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,800
FEDERAL STANDARDS FOR HOW MUCH

1852
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,160
PFAS OR SPECIFIC PFAS COMPOUNDS

1853
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:09,880
CAN BE IN FOOD SO THERE IS NO

1854
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,160
AUTOMATIC LEVEL AT WHICH ACTION

1855
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,520
IS TAKEN, BUT AS I WILL MENTION

1856
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,400
IN A MOMENT THAT DOES NOT MEAN

1857
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:22,920
THAT ANY AMOUNT OF PER

1858
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:23,240
PERMISSIBLE.

1859
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,960
SO JUST FINISHING UP ON THE

1860
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,240
SURVEILLANCE TESTING, THE GOAL

1861
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,840
OF THE PFAS TESTING SPECIFICALLY

1862
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,280
, AS I JUST MENTION

1863
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,920
ED, IS NOT TO TAKE REG

1864
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,720
ULATORY ACTION NECESSARILY ON

1865
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,360
THESE INDIVIDUAL CARCASSES TEST

1866
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,120
ED AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM,

1867
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:40,720
IT IS MORE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT

1868
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:45,120
THE BACKGROUND LEVELS IN MEAT

1869
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,960
AND POULTRY ARE, MORE GENERALLY,

1870
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,360
AND TO UNDERSTAND TRENDS AND TO

1871
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:59,640
INFORM FUTURE ACTION.

1872
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:00,680
THESE PFAS TEST RESULTS ARE

1873
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:08,760
STILL BEING COLLECTED AND

1874
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:09,040
ANALYZED.

1875
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,680
THESE ARE NOT FULLY PUBLISHED

1876
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,560
YET BUT WE HAVE BEEN SHARING

1877
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,040
SUMMARY RESULTS IN FORM, SUCH AS

1878
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,360
THESE WE'RE WORKING ON ACTUALLY

1879
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,840
PUBLISHING THE DATA MORE

1880
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:21,200
COMPREHENSIVELY.

1881
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:22,800
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT GENERALLY

1882
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,000
WE DON'T DETECT PFAS VERY

1883
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,920
FREQUENTLY IN BEEF, PORK AND

1884
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,040
CHICKEN IN THE NATIONAL SAMPLE.

1885
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:38,880
IT IS JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT'S

1886
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:50,880
PARTICULARLY WIDE-SPREAD OR

1887
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,280
SYSTEMIC.

1888
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,280
NOT ALTOGETHER TOO SURPRISING

1889
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,680
SINCE WILD CATFISH LIVE IN RIVER

1890
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,560
S AND PFAS IS PRESENT IN

1891
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,000
THE WATERWAYS AS EVIDENCE BY

1892
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,760
KIND OF FISH CONSUMPTION

1893
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,080
ADVISORIES ISSUED BY SEVERAL

1894
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,840
STATES.

1895
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,360
SO THAT COMPLETES KIND OF THE

1896
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,160
SECOND PIECE, WHICH IS THE

1897
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,840
NATIONAL SURVEILLANCE, AS I

1898
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:21,360
MENTIONED THAT'S ON-GOING.

1899
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:22,920
 SUBJECT TO FUTURE REPORTING ON

1900
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,240
THAT.

1901
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,200
THE THIRD PIECE IS THE SPECIFIC

1902
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,240
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT WE'VE

1903
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,920
PROVIDED TO PRODUCERS IN STATES.

1904
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:32,920
WHEN I SAID ON THE PREVIOUS

1905
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,560
SLIDE THERE IS NO WIDE-SPREAD

1906
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,880
ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH PFAS IN

1907
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,280
BEEF, CHICKEN AND PORK WHAT I

1908
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,280
MEAN IS IF YOU SAMPLE EVEN

1909
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,440
THOUSANDS OF BEEF CARCASSES

1910
01:20:46,440 --> 01:20:48,880
YOU'LL FIND VERY LITTLE PFAS.

1911
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,120
WHAT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IS THAT

1912
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,880
THERE AREN'T VERY SIGNIFICANT IM

1913
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,280
PACTS LOCALIZED TO SPECIFIC

1914
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,120
FARMS THAT MAY BE AFFECTED BY

1915
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:57,880
PFAS AND MAY HAVE VERY HIGH

1916
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:58,880
LEVELS OF PFAS IN THEIR

1917
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,880
ENVIRONMENT, IN THEIR ANIMALS

1918
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:10,400
AND OF COURSE MIGHT BE FACING EX

1919
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,960
TREME ECONOMIC HARDSHIP IN

1920
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,080
BUSINESS IN LIGHT OF THAT.

1921
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,400
THE IMPACTS EXIST IN A MORE

1922
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,680
LOCALIZED FASHION.

1923
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:18,960
THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL INSTANCES

1924
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,880
WHERE WE'VE WORKED WITH STATES

1925
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,800
AND PRODUCERS TO OFFER TESTING

1926
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,280
RESOURCES.

1927
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:26,560
THERE IS ONE HERE THAT MAY BE

1928
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,720
SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH

1929
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,880
THAT INVOLVES A LARGE DAIRY IN

1930
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,200
THE SOUTH WESTERN UNITED STATES

1931
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:38,360
THAT WAS ADJACENT TO AN AIR

1932
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:39,360
FORCE BASE AND ACTUALLY FOUR TO

1933
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,440
FIVE THOUSAND ANIMALS HAVE BEEN

1934
01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:44,920
SUPPLIED WITH PFAS CONTAMINATED

1935
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:45,440
WATER.

1936
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:46,680
THIS INITIALLY CAME TO LIGHT DUE

1937
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,160
TO MILK TESTING, BUT OF COURSE

1938
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:53,120
DAIRY IS ALSO CALL ANIMALS AND

1939
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,760
SLAUGHTER ANIMALS FOR MEAT ON A

1940
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,360
REGULAR BASIS SO IT AFFECTED

1941
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:05,480
BOTH FDA AS THE REGULATORY

1942
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:07,080
AUTHORITY FOR MILK AND BEEF AND

1943
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,360
OF COURSE THE STATE THAT HAS

1944
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:10,920
GENERAL REGULATORY AUTHORITY

1945
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,880
OVER FARMS.

1946
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,080
IN THIS CASE WE WERE QUITE

1947
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:16,400
INVOLVED.

1948
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:21,800
A NUMBER OF YEARS INVOLVING A

1949
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:22,400
SAMPING AND TESTING PROTOCOL.

1950
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,880
WE DEVELOPED TOGETHER WITH FDA A

1951
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,360
SCREENING LEVEL FOR THAT FARM

1952
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:33,480
SPECIFICALLY TO BE ABLE TO

1953
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:34,560
CONTEXT CONTEXTUALIZE THE PFAS

1954
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,680
WE WERE GETTING AND DEFINITELY

1955
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:38,880
ALSO PURCHASED SOME ANIMALS AND

1956
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,760
MOVED THEM TO DIFFERENT LOCATION

1957
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,160
S AND CONTINUED TO STUDY

1958
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,000
THEM TO DETERMINE IF PFAS WILL

1959
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,520
DEPLETE OVER A

1960
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:45,880
[INDISCERNIBLE]

1961
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,360
AMOUNT OF TIME AND BASE ON THAT

1962
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,320
RESEARCH WE WORKED WITH THE

1963
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,880
STATE AND THE PRODUCER ON A

1964
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,280
MITIGATION PROPOSAL FOR THESE

1965
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:03,520
ANIMALS.

1966
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:04,320
THE OUTCOME UNFORTUNATELY WAS

1967
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,680
NOT AS EASY AS I MIGHT HAVE

1968
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,240
SUGGESTED.

1969
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,040
THE RESULTS THAT WE OBSERVED IN

1970
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,680
THE RESEARCH ANIMALS THAT SHOWED

1971
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,720
DEPLETION OF PFAS OVER ABOUT SIX

1972
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,760
MONTHS OR SO WERE NOT REPLICATED

1973
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,680
IN THE ANIMALS THAT REMAINED ON

1974
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,640
THE FORM EVEN WHEN THEY WERE

1975
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,080
SWITCHED TO CLEAN WATER.

1976
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,480
WE'RE NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR WHY

1977
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:30,720
THAT IS.

1978
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,680
WE DID TEST IN MULTIPLE

1979
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:33,920
DIFFERENT TIME POINTS AND DID

1980
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,000
NOT SEE A REDUCTION IN PFAS

1981
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,200
LEVELS SO IT INDICATES EITHER

1982
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,800
THERE WAS STILL PFAS EXPOSURE,

1983
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,320
MAY BE THEY WERE NOT GETTING

1984
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:43,960
FULLY CLEAN WATER, MAY BE THERE

1985
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,200
WAS MORE PFAS IN THE FOOD/IN THE

1986
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,440
FEED THAN WAS THOUGHT.

1987
01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:52,280
SO ULTIMATELY THESE ANIMALS WERE

1988
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,880
NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO SLAUGHTER;

1989
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:00,560
DID NOT ENTER THE FOOD SUPPLY

1990
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,920
AND FOR A LONG TIME DELIBERATION

1991
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,920
S ON DISPOSITIONS

1992
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:11,720
HAVE BEEN CONTINUING THERE

1993
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:16,440
IS NOW AN ANEMTY PROGRAM RUN IN

1994
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:20,280
A PART PART OF THE USDA, SO THAT

1995
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:21,880
IS WHERE THAT'S HEADED.

1996
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,880
SO THAT WAS JUST KIND OF ONE

1997
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,960
EXAMPLE OF THESE STATE TECHNICAL

1998
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:34,560
ASSISTANCE INITIATIVES WE'VE

1999
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:35,560
BEEN APART OF.

2000
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,840
WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH OTHER

2001
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,880
STATES, EACH INTERACTION IS

2002
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:40,520
DIFFERENT BECAUSE EACH SITUATION

2003
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,320
IS DIFFERENT.

2004
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:44,360
THERE IS, THIS PARTICULAR

2005
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,360
EXAMPLE I MENTIONED THEY WERE

2006
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:50,040
DEALING WITH A SINGLE VERY LARGE

2007
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:50,640
DAIRY, OTHER STATES HAVE MUCH

2008
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,520
SMALLER PRODUCERS AND THEY ARE

2009
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,880
FOR EXAMPLE GOING AROUND AND

2010
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,680
TESTING ENVIRONMENTAL SAMPLES

2011
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:00,880
AROUND INDUSTRIAL POINT SOURCES

2012
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,920
KNOWN TO USE PFAS AND ARE NOW

2013
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,520
IDENTIFYING, YOU KNOW, AFFECTED

2014
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:09,640
FARMS AND MANAGING # THOSE

2015
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:10,160
EXPOSURES.

2016
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,240
SO THERE IS A NUMBER OF

2017
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,440
DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES GOING ON

2018
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:14,120
WITH THE STATES.

2019
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,760
FOR US OUR TESTING IN THE

2020
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,120
LABORATORIES CONTINUES AND WE

2021
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:21,880
ALSO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE

2022
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,520
STATES AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK

2023
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,320
WITH FEDERAL PARTNERS AS WELL

2024
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,760
PARTICULARLY OVER THE LAST FEW

2025
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,880
MONTHS THERE HAS BEEN INCREASED

2026
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,080
EFFORTS ON THE FEDERAL AND THE

2027
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,320
WHITE HOUSE LEVEL TO COORDINATE

2028
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:42,920
AND WE AT FSIS ARE HAPPY AND

2029
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,160
EAGER TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT

2030
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:47,400
OF CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF A

2031
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,440
KIND OF A UNIFIED FEDERAL RE

2032
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,120
SPONSE WITHIN THE FOOD AND

2033
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:57,880
AGRICULTURE STATES.

2034
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,280
WITH THAT WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES

2035
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,520
FOR QUESTIONS, WHICH I'M HAPPY

2036
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,360
TO ANSWER, BUT AS WITH THE

2037
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:05,400
PREVIOUS PRESENTERS I CAN

2038
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,640
PROVIDE MY E-MAIL ADDRESS AND I

2039
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:08,840
CAN ALSO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER

2040
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,480
THE FACT AS WELL.

2041
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:13,600
>> THANK YOU ALEXANDER.

2042
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,120
THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING IN

2043
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,400
WHAT IS IN THE FOOD.

2044
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,760
WE DO HAVE AT LEAST ONE QUESTION

2045
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,400
HOW INDEPTH DO THE APPLICABLE

2046
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,680
AGENCIES CONDUCT HUMAN STUDY

2047
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,840
REGARDING PFASS IMPACTS TO HUMAN

2048
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,680
S FROM CONSUMPTION.

2049
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,480
>> CAN YOU READ THAT ONE MORE

2050
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:33,680
TIME?

2051
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,840
I DIDN'T GET THE FIRST PART.

2052
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,760
SORRY I SEE IT NOW IN THE CHAT.

2053
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,480
# I CAN JUST READ IT.

2054
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:44,480
OKAY SO THAT'S, THERE IS REALLY

2055
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:50,800
MULTIPLE PIECES TO THIS, RIGHT.

2056
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:51,880
THERE IS HOW PFAS COMES INTO THE

2057
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,280
ENVIRONMENT, MOVES THROUGH THE

2058
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:54,480
ENVIRONMENT, ENTERS THE FOOD

2059
01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:57,480
SYSTEM, THEN THERE IS THAT

2060
01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:01,480
MIDDLE PART, WHICH WHERE WE ARE

2061
01:27:01,480 --> 01:27:02,600
MOST INVOLVED AND WHAT I WAS

2062
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,000
MOSTLY PRESENTING ON IS HOW DO

2063
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,480
YOU MANAGE EXPOSURES WITHIN

2064
01:27:09,480 --> 01:27:11,240
AGRICULTURE TO CROPS, TO FOOD

2065
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,760
PRODUCING ANIMALS AND WHAT KIND

2066
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,840
OF CONSUMPTION ARE HUMANS EXPECT

2067
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,480
ED TO GET FROM FOOD, RIGHT

2068
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:20,280
AND THEN THE THIRD PART THAT

2069
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:25,040
THIS QUESTION GOES TO IS REALLY

2070
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,760
THE HUMAN HEALTH, HUMAN

2071
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,640
TOXICOLOGY PART OF IT, WHICH IS

2072
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,760
A WHOLE OTHER REALM THAT INVOLVE

2073
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,080
S LOTS OF DIFFERENT TOX

2074
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,680
LOGICAL STUDIES CONDUCTED BY

2075
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,880
DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND UNIVERSAL

2076
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,880
HOW THAT BASICALLY RELATES IS

2077
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,280
THAT AGENCIES LIKE EPA OR THE

2078
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,640
AGENCY FOR TOXIC SUBSTANCES AND

2079
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,920
DISEASE REGISTRY, WHICH IS PART

2080
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,760
OF CDC, THEY WILL DEVELOP VALUES

2081
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,120
BASED ON A SUMMARY OF ALL OF THE

2082
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,080
TOX LOGICAL DATA AND BASICALLY

2083
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,400
SAY THIS IS AN ACCEPTABLE SAFE

2084
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,520
LEVEL OF A CERTAIN CHEMICAL THAT

2085
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,000
PEOPLE CAN BE EXPOSED TO AND

2086
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,760
THEN WE WILL USE THOSE LEVELS TO

2087
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,680
DETERMINE WHAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE

2088
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,080
AMOUNT IN FOOD FOR EXAMPLE.

2089
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:16,600
SO THERE IS LOTS, THE SHORT

2090
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,800
ANSWER IS THERE IS LOTS OF TOX

2091
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,400
LOGICAL STUDY OF PFAS GO ON

2092
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,280
BUT SEPARATE FROM WHAT WE WORK

2093
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,400
ON AT FSIS AS WE USE THE OUTPUT

2094
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:29,720
OF THAT WORK.

2095
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,000
>> THANK YOU.

2096
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:39,280
THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION.

2097
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,880
>> WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

2098
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:42,920
NATIONAL SURVEILLANCE SAMPLING

2099
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,480
THOSE ARE GOVERNMENT INSPECTORS

2100
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:46,920
COLLECTING THOSE SAMPLES AT

2101
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,800
SLAUGHTER AS PART OF THE

2102
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:50,320
NATIONAL RESIDUE PROGRAM.

2103
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,400
WITHIN THAT PROGRAM, I DIDN'T GO

2104
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,840
INTO IT BECAUSE IT IS NOT

2105
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,280
NECESSARILY RELEVANT TO PFAS BUT

2106
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,720
IN GENERAL THERE IS THAT RANDOM

2107
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,080
SURVEILLANCE SAMPLING WHERE

2108
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,280
RANDOM SAMPLES ARE COLLECTED,

2109
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,360
WHICH THOSE ARE THE ONES WE TEST

2110
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,760
FOR PFAS, ALSO INSPECTOR DIRECT

2111
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,560
ED SAMPLING, MOSTLY FOR

2112
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,360
VETERINARIAN DRUGS WHERE THEY

2113
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:10,560
CAN SAY THERE IS SOMETHING UN

2114
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,160
USUAL ABOUT THIS ANIMAL WE'RE

2115
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:13,680
GOING TO TAKE A SAMPLE AND TEST

2116
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:13,880
IT.

2117
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,080
SO THAT'S NOT VOLUNTARY, THAT

2118
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:18,720
OCCURS UNDER OUR REGULATIONS.

2119
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,800
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

2120
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,680
SPECIFIC, THE STATE TECHNICAL

2121
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:24,680
ASSISTANCE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT

2122
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,880
DIFFERENT THERE.

2123
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:31,200
WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATORY

2124
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,320
AUTHORITY PRIOR TO THE SLAUGHTER

2125
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,680
HOUSE ESSENTIALLY SO WE DON'T

2126
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,120
REGULATE FARMS, THAT'S MOSTLY A

2127
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,080
STATE FUNCTION SO IN THE

2128
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,400
SITUATIONS WHERE WE'VE WORKED

2129
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,280
SPECIFICALLY WITH INFECTED FARMS

2130
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:44,880
HAS TYPICALLY BEEN THE STATE

2131
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,880
THAT'S APPROACHED US, THEY'VE

2132
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,880
ALREADY BECOME AWARE OF IMPACTS

2133
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,880
TO THIS FARM AND LOOKING FOR

2134
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,040
ASSISTANCE FOR TESTING RESOURCES

2135
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,120
SO WE WILL WORK WITH THEM IN

2136
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,000
THOSE SIT SITUATIONS.

2137
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,120
>> ALL RIGHT.

2138
01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:58,480
THANK YOU.

2139
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:02,880
I DON'T SEE ANYMORE QUESTIONS

2140
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:08,440
COMING IN.

2141
01:30:08,440 --> 01:30:10,440
GENENE IS MONITORING THOSE, SHE

2142
01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:14,120
HASN'T POST ANYTHING ELSE.

2143
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:15,520
IF YOU CAN POST YOUR E-MAIL

2144
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,880
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IS

2145
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,880
AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE IN CASE

2146
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:23,760
THEY HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS,

2147
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,760
IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.

2148
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:26,600
>> YES.

2149
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:26,920
ABSOLUTELY.

2150
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,680
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INVITING

2151
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,320
ME AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE REST

2152
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:31,400
OF THE DAY.

2153
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:32,000
>> THANK YOU.

2154
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,200
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PRESENTING

2155
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:35,200
GREAT PRESENTATION.

2156
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:39,640
THANK YOU.

2157
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:46,240
OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS ONE

2158
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:46,720
SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL: A

2159
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:47,280
DISCUSSION OF UNIQUE RADON

2160
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:48,080
MITIGATION APPROACHES FOR

2161
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:48,640
NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ON

2162
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,120
MILITARY INSTALLATIONS BY RACHEL

2163
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:55,320
CARTER.

2164
01:30:55,320 --> 01:31:00,560
RACHEL CARTER IS A CERTIFIED OF

2165
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,600
HEALTH ASSISTANT MANAGER AND 35

2166
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:07,280
YEARS IN THE FIELD.

2167
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:11,080
SHE IS A PROJECT MANAGER AND HAS

2168
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,640
COMPLETED OVER 30 DIVERSE AND

2169
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,080
ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECTS FOR THE

2170
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,000
U.S. MILITARY IN THE PAST FIVE

2171
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,680
YEARS.

2172
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,040
MRS. CARTER'S MOST RECENT PRO

2173
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:26,080
JECTS INCLUDE MANAGING

2174
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,120
SEVERAL TECHNICAL SERVICES CON

2175
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:31,080
TRACTS CONDUCTED AT MULTIPLE

2176
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,000
INSTALLATIONS ACROSS THE

2177
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,560
CONTINENTAL U.S.  SO RACHEL, IF

2178
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,560
YOU'RE READY, YOU CAN SHARE YOUR

2179
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,040
SCREEN.

2180
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:40,720
>> RACHEL: YES, HI, GOOD

2181
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:45,680
AFTERNOON.

2182
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:46,200
>> HELLO AND WELCOME.

2183
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,880
IT'S ALL YOURS NOW.

2184
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:50,440
>> RACHEL: ALL RIGHT.

2185
01:31:50,440 --> 01:31:58,120
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN ALL RIGHT?

2186
01:31:58,120 --> 01:31:59,560
>> YES.

2187
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:01,200
RACHEL WE SEE LIKE SOMETHING

2188
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,400
BLACK ON YOUR SCREEN AT THE

2189
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,320
BOTTOM SO IF YOU CAN PUT THAT

2190
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:06,680
LOWER?

2191
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,200
THERE YOU GO.

2192
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:09,800
>> RACHEL: OKAY THANK YOU.

2193
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,560
MY NAME IS RACHEL CARTER, A PRO

2194
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,880
JECT MANAGER AT ASSISTANT

2195
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:16,320
MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS.

2196
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,960
WE ARE A NAVY CONTRACTOR THAT

2197
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:20,680
PERFORMED RADON TESTING OVER THE

2198
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,360
PAST COUPLE YEARS AT SEVERAL

2199
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:24,480
MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND TODAY

2200
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:28,080
MY TALK ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL

2201
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:29,520
WILL BE A DISCUSSION ON THE

2202
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,120
RADON MITIGATION APPROACHES THAT

2203
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,760
WERE IMPLEMENTED FOR NON-

2204
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,520
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ON

2205
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:36,960
THESE INSTALLATIONS.

2206
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,000
RADON IS A NATIONAL OCCURRING

2207
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:41,760
RADIOACTIVE GAS FROM THE BREAK

2208
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:45,360
DOWN OF URANIUM IN THE SOIL

2209
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,680
CONTINUING TO BREAKDOWN INTO

2210
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:49,080
DECAY PRODUCTS.

2211
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:50,480
IT CAN NOT BE SEEN OR SMELLED SO

2212
01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:52,720
THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW IF IT'S IN

2213
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,920
THE BUILDING IS TO TEST FOR IT.

2214
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,480
IT DOESN'T REACT WITH OTHER CHEM

2215
01:32:57,480 --> 01:32:59,480
ICALS OR COMPOUNDS AND

2216
01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:00,760
TYPICALLY ENTERS THE BUILDING

2217
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:01,640
FROM THE SOIL BENEATH.

2218
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,000
IT DOESN'T NEED TO HAVE LARGE

2219
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:04,920
HOLES OR CRACKS IN YOUR

2220
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:06,440
FOUNDATION OR FLOOR FOR RADON

2221
01:33:06,440 --> 01:33:07,400
GAS TO GET IN.

2222
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,920
THESE ARE ADAM-SIZED MOLECULES

2223
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,360
SO UNLESS YOUR BUILDING IS 100%

2224
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:13,400
AIRTIGHT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR

2225
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:14,600
RADON TO ENTER.

2226
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:20,520
ONCE IT ENTERS INTO THE BUILDING

2227
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,560
IT TYPICALLY BIASES AND BECOMES

2228
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,640
DILUTED SO YOU'LL TYPICALLY FIND

2229
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,800
THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF

2230
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:28,600
RADON IN THE BASEMENT AND GROUND

2231
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,080
-LEVEL ROOMS.

2232
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,000
RADON CAN ACCUMULATE TO ELEVATED

2233
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:33,240
LEVELS.

2234
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:40,880
THE EPA SETS THE INDOOR RADON

2235
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:49,040
ACTION LEVEL AT 4.0PCI/L LITERS

2236
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,960
BUT YOU CAN MITIGATE IT TO AC

2237
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:52,800
CEPTABLE LEVELS.

2238
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,200
THE PRIMARY FACTOR INFLUENCING

2239
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:58,080
RADON GAS ENTRY FROM THE SOIL IS

2240
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,280
PRESSURE INSIDE THE BUILDING.

2241
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:00,760
SO IT IS EITHER NEGATIVE

2242
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,720
PRESSURE INSIDE THE BUILDING

2243
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,600
THAT WILL DRAW RADON GAS IN,

2244
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,800
THIS INCLUDES THERMAL STACK

2245
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,280
EFFECT SO WARM AIR WILL RISE AND

2246
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,000
AS IT DOES IT WILL DRIVE THE

2247
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,160
COOL RADON GAS FROM THE SOIL IN,

2248
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,880
MORE OF A FACTOR IN SMALLER

2249
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,040
RESIDENTIAL HOMES VERSUS LARGE

2250
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,600
NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WHERE

2251
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,200
THE BUILDING HVAC SYMPTOM IS

2252
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,880
GOING TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER IM

2253
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:29,600
PACT.

2254
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:33,480
IF THE HVAC SYSTEM ISN'T IN

2255
01:34:33,480 --> 01:34:34,320
BALANCE THAT COULD CAUSE A

2256
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,680
SECTION OF ROOMS OR BUILDING TO

2257
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:37,880
HAVE NEGATIVE PRESSURE, WHICH

2258
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,040
WILL DRAW THE RADON GAS IN.

2259
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:41,600
ALSO EXHAUST SYSTEMS THAT

2260
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,400
EXHAUST AIR OUTSIDE OF THE BUILD

2261
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:45,640
ING BUT DON'T BRING FRESH

2262
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,480
AIR IN WILL DRAW THAT RADON GAS

2263
01:34:47,480 --> 01:34:48,280
FROM THE SOIL.

2264
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,480
THERE COULD ALSO BE POSITIVE

2265
01:34:49,480 --> 01:34:50,640
PRESSURE FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE

2266
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,600
BUILDING THAT'S PUSHING RADON

2267
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,600
GAS IN, SO THIS COULD BE FROM

2268
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,240
STORM WITH HEAVY RAIN AND WIND

2269
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:00,880
THAT POSITIVE PRESSURE IN THE

2270
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,120
SOIL WILL PUSH RADON GAS IN.

2271
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,560
THERE COULD ALSO BE SOME UNUSUAL

2272
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,160
SOURCES OF RADON NOT FROM THE

2273
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,680
SOIL GAS SO THIS INCLUDES GROUND

2274
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,800
WATER THAT CONTAINS RADON.

2275
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,560
RADON IS SOLUBLE IN WATER SO

2276
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,080
WELL WATER COULD BE A SOURCE.

2277
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:18,760
ONCE THAT WATER HITS THE AIR THE

2278
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,080
RADON WANTS TO COME OUT OF THE

2279
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,000
WATER ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

2280
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,600
NOW DO NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF

2281
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,120
RADON IN THE WATER FOR IT TO

2282
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:30,080
EQUAL THAT ACTION LEVEL 4 PER

2283
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,520
AIR SO YOU NEED 20,000 IN THE

2284
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,480
WATER SO YOU DO NEED A LOT OF

2285
01:35:35,480 --> 01:35:36,840
RADON IN THE WATER FOR IT TO BE

2286
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:37,880
A FACTOR.

2287
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,920
RADON CAN ALSO COME FROM CERTAIN

2288
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,920
BUILDING MATERIAL MATERIALS SO

2289
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:46,080
CONCRETE, BRICK AND GRANITE

2290
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,760
COULD HAVE A LOT OF URANIUM IN

2291
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,800
IT AND THAT COULD BE A SOURCE

2292
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:52,360
FOR RADON.

2293
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,360
I KNOW OF A BUILDING THAT HAD

2294
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,200
CONCRETE WALLS AND THAT CONCRETE

2295
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,200
HAD A REALLY HIGH URANIUM SOURCE

2296
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,560
AND SO THAT WAS THE SOURCE OF

2297
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,960
RADON AND IN THAT INSTANCE

2298
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,160
TRADITIONAL RADON MITIGATION

2299
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,920
SYSTEM, WHICH USUALLY WORKS ON

2300
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,480
THE RADON IN THE SOIL COULD NOT

2301
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:13,120
BE USED AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO

2302
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,160
AN ALTERNATIVE RADON MITIGATION

2303
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,120
APPROACH.

2304
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:18,360
WHERE IS RADON FOUND?

2305
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:22,760
HERE IS AN EPA ZONE MAP CREATED

2306
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,520
BASED ON GEOLOGY AND SURVEY

2307
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,000
RESULTS SO THE RED INDICATES

2308
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,720
HIGH RADON AREAS AND THOSE ARE

2309
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:33,040
REALLY AREAS THAT ARE RICH IN

2310
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,480
GRANITE IN THE SOIL BECAUSE

2311
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:36,680
GRANITE CONTAINS A LOT OF

2312
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:37,640
URANIUM SO THIS COULD BE A

2313
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,720
LITTLE MISLEADING BECAUSE

2314
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,600
URANIUM IS FOUND IN THE EARTH'S

2315
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,640
CRUST AND CAN DEFUSE THROUGH ANY

2316
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,040
SOIL TO POTENTIALLY GET INTO A

2317
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,600
HOME SO EVEN BUILDINGS AND HOMES

2318
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,400
IN THE YELLOW, WHICH ARE LOW OR

2319
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,160
THE ORANGE WHICH ARE MODERATE

2320
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,280
RADON AREAS WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND

2321
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:57,800
THAT THEY ALSO TEST TOO.

2322
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,520
BASICALLY UNLESS YOU LIVE IN A

2323
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,120
TREEHOUSE WHERE THERE IS A BUNCH

2324
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,120
OF AIR UNDERNEATH OR A HOUSE

2325
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,000
BOAT WHERE YOU HAVE WATER UNDER

2326
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:05,880
NEATH YOUR HOME YOU DO HAVE

2327
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:08,560
THE POTENTIAL FOR ELEVATED RADON

2328
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:09,680
AND THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW IF YOU

2329
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,480
HAVE ELEVATED RADON IS TO TEST

2330
01:37:11,480 --> 01:37:12,960
FOR IT.

2331
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,680
FOR OCCUPATIONAL BUILDINGS ALL

2332
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:17,800
OCCUPIED GROUND CONTACT OF

2333
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:19,080
OFFICES OR ROOMS SHOULD BE TEST

2334
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:20,720
ED, THIS IS BECAUSE A CLUST

2335
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,440
OF ROOMS OR OFFICES COULD HAVE

2336
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:25,200
ELEVATED RADON AND YOU WOULDN'T

2337
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:26,480
KNOW IF YOU ONLY SAMPLE A

2338
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:29,200
PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

2339
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:30,560
SHORT-TERM RADON TESTS, WHICH

2340
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:34,760
ARE TWO TO NOINT DAYS -- TWO TO

2341
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:36,560
90 DAYS, WE RECOMMEND CONDUCTED

2342
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:41,080
DURING THE SEASON WHERE THE HVAC

2343
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:42,160
IS RUNNING SO THAT WOULD BE

2344
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,480
DURING THE WINTER MONTHS IN

2345
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:45,680
NORTHERN LATITUDES OR DURING THE

2346
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:46,960
SUMMER MONTHS IN SOUTHERN LAT

2347
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,280
ITUDES AND LONG-TERM TESTING

2348
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,960
ANYTHING OVER 91 DAYS CAN BE

2349
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,120
BIAS TOWARDS UNOCCUPIED HOURS IF

2350
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:59,080
THAT BUILDING ISN'T OCCUPIED

2351
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,200
24-7 THIS IS BECAUSE PASSIVE

2352
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:06,080
DEVICES TAKE THE AVERAGE RADON

2353
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,800
RESULT DURING THE TESTING PERIOD

2354
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,680
THAT MEANS THEY ARE OUT THERE AT

2355
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,560
NIGHT AND WEEKENDS WHEN WORKERS

2356
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,080
MIGHT NOT BE IN THE BUILDING.

2357
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,080
AND SYSTEMS PERHAPS THE AIR HAND

2358
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,000
LER ISN'T WORKING THAT NIGHT

2359
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:19,560
SO YOU COULD SEE RESULTS THAT

2360
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,040
ARE BIAS TOWARDS THOSE UN

2361
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,000
OCCUPIED HOURS.

2362
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,240
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A FLOOR

2363
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,880
PLAN WHERE ALL OF THE OCCUPIED

2364
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,520
SPACES WERE TESTED.

2365
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,600
THE BOXES SHOW THE LONG-TERM

2366
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:37,880
RADON IN PER LITER.

2367
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,960
AND ONE WAS 14 PER LITER SO ONE

2368
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:41,600
ELEVATED SPACE.

2369
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,280
SO IF WE JUST DID A SAMPLE OF

2370
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:45,280
THESE ROOMS IT IS LIKELY WE

2371
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,600
COULD HAVE MISSED THAT AND WE

2372
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,800
DID LOOK AT THIS INDIVIDUAL OSTO

2373
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:51,720
TRY TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

2374
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:53,880
THERE WAS A UNIT VENTILATOR IN

2375
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:55,800
THERE AND IN THE PICTURE ON THE

2376
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,120
TOP LEFT YOU CAN SEE THE FRESH

2377
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,560
AIR INTAKE WAS BLOCKED.

2378
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,320
SOMEONE HAD PUT A PIECE OF

2379
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,480
INSTALLATION IN THERE AND SO

2380
01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:05,280
THAT KEPT FRESH AIR FROM GETTING

2381
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:05,480
IN.

2382
01:39:05,480 --> 01:39:08,040
THERE WAS ALSO IN THE PICTURE ON

2383
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:09,200
THE BOTTOM RIGHT YOU COULD SEE

2384
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,240
AN ARROW POINTING TO A HOLE

2385
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:12,760
WHERE IT WAS # AIR GAPED TO THE

2386
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,840
SOIL SO THE UNIT WAS PULLING

2387
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,960
SOIL GAS INTO THE ROOM, WE CALL

2388
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,680
THIS MINING FOR RADON.

2389
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,480
BY REMOVING THAT INSTALLATION,

2390
01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:23,560
MAKING SURE FRESH AIR WAS

2391
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,400
GETTING IN AND SEALING THAT HOLE

2392
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,120
WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE RADON

2393
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,440
LEVELS TO BELOW THE ACTION LEVEL

2394
01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:32,280
WHY IS RADON A HEALTH CONCERN?

2395
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:33,400
ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR

2396
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:37,160
DISEASE CONTROL RADON-INDUCED

2397
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:38,880
LUNG CANCER IS THE SECOND LEAD

2398
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,240
ING CAUSE OF LUNG CANCER IN

2399
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,120
THE U.S., HOWEVER IT IS NOT

2400
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,120
CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE LUNG

2401
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:47,600
TISSUE.

2402
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,280
OVER 95% OF THE RADIATION DOSE

2403
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,080
COMES FROM THE DOSE THAT RADON

2404
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,160
BREAKS DOWN TO BECAUSE RAIDSON A

2405
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,400
GAS AND BREAKS DOWN INTO RADON

2406
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:58,960
DECAY PRODUCTS, WHICH ARE SOLID

2407
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,080
PARTICLES AND THEY ARE CHARGE IN

2408
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:03,880
VERY STICKY SO THEY WILL ADHERE

2409
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,080
TO SUSPENDED PARTICLES IN THE

2410
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:06,880
AIR WHERE YOU CAN BREATHE THEM

2411
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,600
IN AND THEY THEMSELVES WILL

2412
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:11,080
BREAK DOWN AND WHEN THEY DO THEY

2413
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,080
CAN DAMAGE THE SENSITIVE LUNG

2414
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:13,280
TISSUE.

2415
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,840
THIS HEALTH RISK INCREASES WHEN

2416
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:18,240
YOU'RE EXPOSED TO HIGHER LEVEL

2417
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,240
LEVELS FOR LONGER PERIODS OF

2418
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:21,920
TIME.

2419
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,480
CHRONIC EXPOSURE NOT ACUTE.

2420
01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:27,560
LUNG CANCER CAN BE AS LONG AS

2421
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,200
FIVE TO FIFTEEN YEARS.

2422
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:32,240
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN

2423
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:33,760
CHAIN OF RADON DECAY PRODUCTS ON

2424
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:34,560
THE RIGHT.

2425
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,760
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE

2426
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:43,000
RADON DECAY PRODUCTS, IN BRIGHT

2427
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:43,320
RED.

2428
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:45,960
RADON BREAKS DOWN TO SEVERAL

2429
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:52,640
RADON DECAY PRODUCTS.

2430
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:56,920
POLONYISM 218 AND 214 HAVE VERY

2431
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,240
SHORT SPAN, MUCH GREATER

2432
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,480
COMPARED TO RADON OR THE OTHER

2433
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:03,200
RADON DECAY PARTICLES.

2434
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,440
THEY ALSO EMIT ALPHA RADIATION,

2435
01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:08,320
ALPHA PARTICLES, WHICH ON THE

2436
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,120
OUTSIDE OF YOUR BODY ARE HARM

2437
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,120
LESS, SO YOUR SKIN CAN STOP

2438
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:16,800
AN ALPHA PARTICLE BUT IF TEATS

2439
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,480
IF IT'S IN YOUR LUNGS IT CAN GO

2440
01:41:19,480 --> 01:41:21,280
STRAIGHT THROUGH YOUR DNA STRAND

2441
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,280
AND THE LONGER YOU ARE EXPOSED

2442
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,520
YOUR BODY IS NOT ABLE TO REPAIR

2443
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:28,680
AS FAST SO THAT IS WHAT WOULD

2444
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:35,280
LEAD TO LUNG CANCER OVER TIME.

2445
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:42,080
EQUAL LIBRIUM FACTORS, ATTACHING

2446
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,600
TO AIRBORNE PARTICLES AND STRONG

2447
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,000
LY ADHERE TO THOSE OBJECTS

2448
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:50,120
, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO

2449
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,160
DETACH.

2450
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,560
THE EQUILIBRIUM.

2451
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:55,560
WE CALL IT PLATED OUT AND YOU

2452
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,400
CAN SEE ON THE LITTLE BUILDING

2453
01:41:58,400 --> 01:41:59,560
SEMATIC ON THE LEFT YOUR RADON

2454
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:00,960
ENTERING INA THE BUILDING WHERE

2455
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:06,280
IT BREAKS DOWN TO REPs.

2456
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,880
HALF ARE IN THE AIR WHICH EQUALS

2457
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,600
.5 OR 50%.

2458
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,800
THE MORE PLATED OUT THE MORE

2459
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,080
EQUILIBRIUM FACTOR AND LOWER

2460
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:18,080
EXPOSURE AND THERE ARE SEVERAL

2461
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,680
THINGS THAT CAN IMPACT THE

2462
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:20,880
FACTOR.

2463
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,120
ONE IS AIR MOVEMENT.

2464
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:25,840
SO THE MORE YOU MOVE AIR AROUND

2465
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,680
THE MORE THOSE RDPs ARE GOING

2466
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:29,880
TO ATTACH TO FIXED SURFACES TO

2467
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:31,920
REDUCE EXPOSURE BECAUSE THEY ARE

2468
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,440
NOT ABLE IN THE AIR FOR YOU TO

2469
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:33,880
INHALE.

2470
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,280
THIS THE SAME FOR MEDIA AIR FILT

2471
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,120
ERS THAT WOULD REMOVE SU

2472
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,560
SPENDED PARTICLES TO ALSO LOW

2473
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,560
ER THE EQUILIBRIUM FACTOR AND

2474
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:43,920
LOWER EXPOSURE.

2475
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,600
IF THE AIR IS SUPER DIRTY, IF

2476
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,640
THERE IS A LOT OF SUSPENDED DUST

2477
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:50,160
, SMOKE OR AIR POLLUTANTS

2478
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,200
THIS WOULD INCREASE THE

2479
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,120
EQUILIBRIUM FACTOR AND INCREASE

2480
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:55,960
YOUR EXPOSURE.

2481
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,040
SO A QUICK MEASUREMENT TERM RE

2482
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:58,240
VIEW.

2483
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:07,040
RADON DECAY PRODUCTS ARE DERIVED

2484
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,560
INTO THE WORKING LEVEL.

2485
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:13,760
THE LIMIT IS .02 WORKING LEVELS.

2486
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,520
RDPs CAN BE MEASURED USING RDP

2487
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:18,640
DEVICES, THEY MEASURE THE ACTUAL

2488
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:20,480
RADIATION EXPOSURE BUT THEY DO

2489
01:43:20,480 --> 01:43:21,720
REQUIRE THE MEASUREMENT OF

2490
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,600
AIRFLOW SO THE MORE REFINED

2491
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:24,640
MEASUREMENTS ARE ALSO MORE COST

2492
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,360
LY.

2493
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,560
TESTING FOR RAIDSON A CONSUMER

2494
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,640
MEASUREMENT THAT USES SIMPLER

2495
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,040
DEVICES THAT ARE EASIER TO USE

2496
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,520
OR CHEAPER BUT THEY PROVIDE SEAR

2497
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,160
IGATE MEASUREMENTS FOR RDPs

2498
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:39,560
.

2499
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:48,160
SO THE EPA ACTION LEVEL OF PICO

2500
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:49,200
CURIES PER LITER.

2501
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,040
THERE IS A LITTLE EQUATION ON

2502
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,400
THE BOTTOM RIGHT THAT SHOWS HOW

2503
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:59,600
THAT PER LITER ACTION LEVEL WAS

2504
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:00,200
DERIVED.

2505
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,040
SO WHEN YOU MEASURE FOR RADON

2506
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:03,680
THAT MEASUREMENT IS ONLY

2507
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:07,360
ACCURATE IF THE ASSUMED

2508
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,640
EQUILIBRIUM FACTOR IS THE ACTUAL

2509
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:09,880
FACTOR.

2510
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,080
WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THERE ARE

2511
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:15,840
MANY THINGS TO IMPACT THE EKE

2512
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:20,080
WILL INRIUM FACTOR.

2513
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,880
IN NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS YOU

2514
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,040
CAN HAVE A MOVEMENT OF A TON OF

2515
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:28,080
AIR AND A LOT OF TIMES THE

2516
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:29,080
EQUILIBRIUM FACTOR IS MUCH LOWER

2517
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,880
THAN THE 50%, WE'VE SEEN IT

2518
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,280
AROUND 30% OR EVEN AS LOW AS 10%

2519
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,280
SO RADON MITIGATION STRATEGIES,

2520
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,800
THE PRIMARY GOAL OF RADON

2521
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:43,320
MITIGATION IS TO REDUCE THE RDP

2522
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:44,640
EXPOSURE, THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY

2523
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:45,760
HEALTH RISK.

2524
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,400
YOU CAN DO THIS BY DIRECT RE

2525
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,080
DUCTION OF THE RDPs, THIS IN

2526
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,640
CLUDES INCREASING THE AIR CIRC

2527
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:53,880
ULATION.

2528
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,080
AGAIN IF YOU INCREASE THE AIR

2529
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,840
MOVEMENT, LOWERS THE EQUILIBRIUM

2530
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:00,080
EXPOSURE.

2531
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,520
IF YOU INCREASE AIR FILTRATION

2532
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,000
THERE IS LESS RDP SUSPENDED IN

2533
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,880
THE AIR FOR YOU TO INHALE.

2534
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:09,320
OR IF YOU REDUCE RADON GAS IT

2535
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:13,480
SELF YOU REDUCE THE RDPs AS

2536
01:45:13,480 --> 01:45:15,040
WELL SO THAT WOULD BE THE SOURCE

2537
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:15,280
METHOD.

2538
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,400
AND YOU CAN DO THIS TO INCREASE

2539
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:18,600
FRESH AIR, SO DELUSION.

2540
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:20,120
YOU COULD DECREASE THE NEGATIVE

2541
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:20,880
PRESSURE IN THE BUILDING SO IT

2542
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,320
IS NOT DRAWING AS MUCH RADON GAS

2543
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:24,880
IN THE SOIL OR YOU COULD

2544
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,200
IMPLEMENT A SYSTEM SUCH AS ACT

2545
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:28,400
IVE SOIL TO PRESSURIZATION,

2546
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,160
WHICH I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT ON

2547
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:30,720
THE NEXT SLIDE.

2548
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:32,640
NO MATTER THE MITIGATION

2549
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:37,440
STRATEGY A COMPREHENSIVE MATE

2550
01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:38,200
FINANCE PLAN NEEDS TO BE

2551
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,680
MAINTAINED AND ALL ROOMS TESTED

2552
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,320
SHOULD BE CONDUCTED EVERY TWO

2553
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:42,800
YEARS.

2554
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:47,600
HERE IS A LITTLE FIGURE OF # # A

2555
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,120
SD SYSTEM, THE MOST COMMON

2556
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,720
RADON MITIGATION TECHNIQUE FOR

2557
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:52,920
RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENTS.

2558
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,800
IT REQUIRES AT LEAST ONE HOLE TO

2559
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,640
BE DRILLED INTO THE SLAB WHERE A

2560
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,960
PIPE WILL DRAW THE RADON GAS AT

2561
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,440
A GREATER PRESSURE THAN THE

2562
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:05,520
BUILDING IS DRAWING ON THE RADON

2563
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:06,920
GAS AND EXHAUST THE RADON GAS UP

2564
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,880
AND OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AWAY

2565
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:10,880
FROM WHERE IT COULD BE INHALED.

2566
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,000
IT WORKS VERY WELL FOR HOMES

2567
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,240
WITH SIMPLE STRUCTURE, BUT IT

2568
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:21,200
COULD BE A SECURITY CONCERN FOR

2569
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,480
CERTAIN AREAS WHERE YOU COULD

2570
01:46:23,480 --> 01:46:26,040
DRILL INTO THE BUILDING.

2571
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,480
IT COULD BE MORE COSTLY AND

2572
01:46:27,480 --> 01:46:30,120
KNOWN TO FAIL FOR NON-

2573
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:31,280
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS

2574
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,880
BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE MORE

2575
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:34,920
COMPLICATED FOOTPRINTS, YOU'D

2576
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,080
NEED TO PUT MANY SYSTEMS IN OR

2577
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,160
BECAUSE OF THE ROBUST AC UNITS

2578
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,040
IT IS HARD FOR THESE SYSTEMS TO

2579
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:42,880
OVERRIDE THAT PRESSURE BECAUSE

2580
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,200
THE NEGATIVE PRESSURE FROM THOSE

2581
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,760
SYSTEMS IS PRETTY GREAT.

2582
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,080
A COUPLE NOTES ON NON-

2583
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:50,720
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.

2584
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,880
THEY HAVE COMPLEX AIR HANDLING

2585
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:55,240
SYSTEMS THAT GREATLY EFFECT THE

2586
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:55,680
PRESSURE.

2587
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,520
THIS IS MORE THAN TEMPERATURE

2588
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,280
AND/OR OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL

2589
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:01,480
FACTORS IN TERMS OF DRAWING

2590
01:47:01,480 --> 01:47:03,920
RADON GAS INTO THE BUILDING.

2591
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,960
YOU COULD COMMONLY SEE ONE TO

2592
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:07,760
TWO ROOMS OR JUST A SECTION OF

2593
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,560
ROOMS THAT HAVE ELEVATED RADON

2594
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,880
BECAUSE THE HVAC IS IMBALANCED

2595
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,120
OR SOMEONE COULD BLOCK THE VENT

2596
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:19,960
AND MAKE JUST ONE ROOM NEGATIVE;

2597
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,920
HOWEVER, LARGE AIR HANDLING

2598
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:24,600
SYSTEMS CAN MOVE A TON OF AIR

2599
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:29,480
LEADING TO LOWER EQUILIBRIUM

2600
01:47:29,480 --> 01:47:31,720
FACTORS, MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT IS

2601
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,880
ASSUMED IN THE RADON MEASUREMENT

2602
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:36,480
A COUPLE QUICK NOTES ABOUT

2603
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:38,280
GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY AS WELL.

2604
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,520
SO FUNDING IN CONTRACTING CAN BE

2605
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:42,840
A FACTOR AND THEY COULD

2606
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:43,840
DETERMINE THE MITIGATION

2607
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:45,320
STRATEGY AND/OR TIMELINE.

2608
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,960
THERE ALSO MAY BE BUILDINGS OR

2609
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:53,560
SPACES WHERE CONVENT CONVENTION

2610
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:58,080
AL, THAT WOULD BE A SC

2611
01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:59,600
IF.

2612
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:00,760
INCREASING AIR CIRCULATION WITH

2613
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:02,480
BANDS SUPPLEMENTED WITH FILTERS

2614
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:07,240
CAN INCREASE THE PLATE-OUT TO

2615
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:10,160
REDUCE THE HEALTH RISK EXPOSURE.

2616
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:11,720
YOU COULD ALSO ADD IN FRESH AIR

2617
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:13,600
WHICH WOULD DELETE THE RADON

2618
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,080
SOURCE GAS AND THESE METHODS CAN

2619
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:19,880
BE PUT IN PLACE IF CONVENTIONAL

2620
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:21,640
RADON MITIGATION SYSTEMS ARE TO

2621
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:23,640
BE INSTALLED YOU COULD IMPLEMENT

2622
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,800
THESE AS AN INTERIM STRATEGY.

2623
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,160
SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE CASE STUD

2624
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:29,320
IES.

2625
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,680
WE'RE FINALLY GETTING INTO THE

2626
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,120
RADON MITIGATION.

2627
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,200
SO RADON TESTING WAS COMPLETING

2628
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,080
AT SEVERAL MILITARY

2629
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,720
INSTALLATIONS ACROSS THE

2630
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,480
CONTINENTAL U.S. AND ALASKA

2631
01:48:43,480 --> 01:48:46,480
USING DEVICES AND THE RADON

2632
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:49,400
ASSESSMENT AND PROTOCOLS WERE

2633
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:50,520
FOLLOWED FOR ALL TESTING.

2634
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,560
THIS ADHERES CLOSELY TO THE EPA

2635
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,560
GUIDANCE.

2636
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,640
THE BUILDINGS TESTED RANGE FROM

2637
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:57,320
LARGE COMMERCIAL OR

2638
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,760
ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS TO

2639
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,880
COMPANY HOUSING, LABORATORIES

2640
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:04,120
AND OTHER UNIQUE FACILITIES.

2641
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:05,600
THE MITIGATION APPROACHES THAT

2642
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:07,880
WERE IMPLEMENTED WERE SPECIFIC

2643
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,480
TO EACH BUILDING BASE ON THE

2644
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:10,280
BUILDING DESIGN, FUNCTION,

2645
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,480
SECURITY AND POST-TESTING

2646
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:13,880
INVESTIGATION AND DIAGNOSTICS.

2647
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:15,360
SO THE TABLE ON THE BOTTOM, A

2648
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,640
BRIEF SUMERARY, 13 INSTALLATIONS

2649
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:22,000
WERE TESTED, 320 BUILDINGS

2650
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:22,920
ACROSS THOSE 13 INSTALLATIONS

2651
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:24,560
THAT INCLUDED MORE THAN 3,000

2652
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:25,680
INDIVIDUAL ROOMS THAT WERE TEST

2653
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:26,280
ED.

2654
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,120
15 OF THE 320 BUILDINGS WERE

2655
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,320
ELEVATED AND THIS INCLUDES 100

2656
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,400
INDIVIDUAL ROOMS AND THAT ONE

2657
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,520
BUILDING COULD HAVE HAD ONE ROOM

2658
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,200
ELEVATED, OTHERS MAJORITY OF

2659
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:39,800
ROOMS COULD HAVE BEEN ELEVATED,

2660
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:40,600
IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON THE

2661
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,280
BUILDING AND THE INSTALLATION.

2662
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:49,480
FOUR BUILDINGS WE PERFORMED RDP

2663
01:49:49,480 --> 01:49:50,160
DIAGNOSTICS AND MEASUREMENTS,

2664
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,760
AND WELL BELOW THE ACTION LEVEL

2665
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:53,680
OF WORKING LEVEL.

2666
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,080
AND THE ECWILL INRIUM FACTORS

2667
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:57,800
WERE MUCH LOWER THAN THE 50% AS

2668
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:06,080
WELL.

2669
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:11,320
THE FIRST CASE STUDY IS REPAIR

2670
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,040
AT SEVERAL BARRACKS THAT WERE

2671
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:14,680
ADDED INSTALLATION.

2672
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:16,880
THE RAIL LEVELS IN SEVERAL BUILD

2673
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,680
INGS WERE ELEVATED, WHICH

2674
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:20,600
WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS BECAUSE

2675
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,680
THERE REALLY WAS NO WHERE ELSE

2676
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:23,920
ON THE INSTALLATION WHERE THERE

2677
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,200
WAS ELEVATED RADON SO WE

2678
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,080
DEFINITELY WANTED TO INVESTIGATE

2679
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:28,600
TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

2680
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,280
IN THE BARRACKS EACH ROOM HAD

2681
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:31,880
ITS OWN UNIT VENTILATOR SO YOU

2682
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:34,080
COULD SEE JUST A COUPLE OUTDOOR

2683
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,280
AND INDOOR USE OF THE VENTILATOR

2684
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:37,640
AND IN THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT

2685
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:41,640
A ZOOMED-IN PHOTO OF A MECHAN

2686
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:42,200
ICAL VENT SWITCH THAT

2687
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:44,440
WOULD OPEN AND CLOSE THE VENT TO

2688
01:50:44,440 --> 01:50:46,160
ALLOW FRESH AIR IN.

2689
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,560
SO THE UNITS WERE ALL PULLED AND

2690
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:50,160
WE NOTICEDDED THE SHIPPING SCREW

2691
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:53,640
WAS NOT REMOVED WHICH PREVENTED

2692
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:54,720
THE OPENING OF THE VENT.

2693
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,440
WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS AN

2694
01:50:57,440 --> 01:51:00,280
ACCIDENT OR DONE ON PURPOSE AS

2695
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:01,440
PART OF THE ENERGY MANAGEMENT

2696
01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:01,680
SYSTEM.

2697
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:03,760
IN A LOT OF CASES BUILDINGS WILL

2698
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:05,120
PUT AN ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM

2699
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:09,200
IN TO BLOCK OR REDUCE FRESH AIR

2700
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:09,800
IN ORDER TO SAVE ON ENERGY BUT

2701
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,080
THIS IS REALLY IN DIRECT CON

2702
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,080
FLECT WITH MANAGING RADON

2703
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:15,440
BECAUSE YOU NEED THE FRESH AIR

2704
01:51:15,440 --> 01:51:19,880
IN ORDER TO KEEP THE BUILDING

2705
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:20,480
UNDER POSITIVE PRESSURE AND KEEP

2706
01:51:20,480 --> 01:51:20,760
RADON OUT.

2707
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:21,840
SO WE DID REMOVE THE SHIPPING

2708
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,120
SCREWS TO ALLOW THAT MECHANICAL

2709
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:25,560
VENT TO OPEN AND CLOSE TO ALLOW

2710
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:26,360
FRESH AIR IN.

2711
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,880
IT TOOK TWO PEOPLE ABOUT 30

2712
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,560
MINUTES ON EACH UNITO PULL THEM

2713
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,240
OUT, REMOVE THOSE SCREWS, CLEAN

2714
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:34,080
OUT INTERIOR, MAKE SURE THAT

2715
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:38,040
VENT WORKED AND DEPLOYED OPENED

2716
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,160
AND THEN WE PERFORMED FOLLOW-UP

2717
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:41,600
RADON MEASUREMENTS TO TEST

2718
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:43,880
WHETHER MAKING THOSE REPAIRS AND

2719
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,240
ADDING FRESH AIR REDUCED RADON

2720
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:47,480
LEVELS.

2721
01:51:47,480 --> 01:51:48,760
AND HERE IS A FLOOR PLAN THAT

2722
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:56,680
SHOWS THE ELEVATED RADON ON PIC

2723
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:58,480
s PER LITER IN RED.

2724
01:51:58,480 --> 01:51:59,920
MOST OF THE BUILDING WAS ELEVAT

2725
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:02,120
ED AND ONCE REPAIRS WERE

2726
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,040
MADE AND FRESH AIR WAS ADDED TWO

2727
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:06,480
SEQUENTIAL SHORT-TERM TESTS

2728
01:52:06,480 --> 01:52:08,000
CONDUCTED THAT WERE VERY LOW.

2729
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,240
THIS GRAPH DEMONSTRATES IT EVEN

2730
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,760
BETTER SO YOU HAVE RADON PER

2731
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,480
LITER ON THE Y AXIS AND THE ROOM

2732
01:52:16,480 --> 01:52:19,280
ON THE X AXIS.

2733
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:20,000
THE LONG-TERM RADON IN BLUE AND

2734
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:21,600
THEN THE RADON AFTER THOSE RE

2735
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:22,800
PAIRS WERE MADE IN RED.

2736
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,880
SO THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF DI

2737
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:25,960
LUTION BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING

2738
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:27,840
FRESH AIR TO DILUTE THE RADON

2739
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,080
BEING BROUGHT IN.

2740
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,960
THE LEVELS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY

2741
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,120
ALMOST TO THE LOWER LEVELS OF DE

2742
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:37,080
TECTION ONCE THAT FRESH AIR

2743
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:37,920
WAS ADDED.

2744
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:43,080
THE SECOND CASE STUDY WAS

2745
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:43,360
IMPLEMENTED.

2746
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,280
THIS FLOOR PLAN AGAIN SHOWS THE

2747
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,320
ELEVATED RADON IN RED BOXES AND

2748
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:49,400
THEN THE BLACK RADON IS THE

2749
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:51,160
RADON THAT WAS BELOW THE ACTION

2750
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:52,600
LEVEL AND YOU CAN SEE A CLEAR

2751
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,040
DIFFERENCE IN ONE SIDE OF THE

2752
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:55,320
BUILDING COMPARED TO THE OTHER.

2753
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,000
IT TURNED OUT ON THE RIGHT SIDE

2754
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:58,920
OF THE BUILDING THERE WAS A NEW

2755
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,840
HVAC SYSTEM INSTALLED THAT ADDED

2756
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:03,080
FRESH AIR, EVERYTHING WAS LOW.

2757
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,480
ON THE LEFT THERE WAS AN OLDER H

2758
01:53:05,480 --> 01:53:09,080
VAC UNIT AS WELL AS A BASEMENT

2759
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:09,960
THAT HAD TWO OPEN AIR SUMPS AND

2760
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:13,320
GRABBED SAMPLES OF THOSE SUMPS

2761
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:17,280
SHOWS I THINK THE RADON WAS AS

2762
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:18,720
HIGH AS 180 PER LITER SO THAT

2763
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,680
WAS DEFINITELY A SOURCE OF RADON

2764
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:25,000
WHAT WE DID WAS DESIGN A SOURCE

2765
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:29,200
RADON MITIGATION SYSTEM THAT

2766
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:29,800
UTILIZED THOSE EXISTING SUMPS.

2767
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:32,080
SO THERE WAS A MODIFIED SUMP LID

2768
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:32,960
THAT SEALED IT, THAT CONNECTED

2769
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:38,280
TO TWO PVC PIPES THAT WENT TO A

2770
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:39,520
UMCAEN PVC PIPE AND A RADON FAN

2771
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:40,640
ABOVE THE BUILDING THAT EXHAUST

2772
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:41,880
ED RADON OUTSIDE OF THE

2773
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:42,880
BUILDING.

2774
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:46,160
AND THE SYSTEM WAS ACTIVATED AND

2775
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,080
WE DID SHORT-TERM TESTING AFTER

2776
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:49,880
WARDS TO SEE IF THAT WOULD

2777
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,360
SOLVE THE RADON PROBLEM.

2778
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,680
YOU CAN SEE AGAIN RADON PER

2779
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,840
LITER ON THE Y AXIS AND ROOM ON

2780
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:57,920
THE X AXIS AND THERE WAS A DE

2781
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,160
CREASE IN RADON IN ALL OF THE

2782
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,200
ROOMS THAT WERE ELEVATED

2783
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:04,680
ESPECIALLY THE BASEMENT WHERE

2784
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:05,920
PRIOR TO THAT SYSTEM BEING IN

2785
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:11,480
STALLED THE RADON WAS ABOUT 10

2786
01:54:11,480 --> 01:54:13,640
PER LITER AND AFTER DOWN AROUND

2787
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:13,800
2.

2788
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:15,960
I GUARANTEE WHEN THEY ARE ABLE

2789
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,640
TO REPAIR THE HVAC UNIT OR ADD

2790
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,480
FRESH AIR OR REPLACE IT YOU

2791
01:54:22,480 --> 01:54:23,600
COULD PROBABLY REDUCE THESE

2792
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,240
LEVELS EVEN FURTHER.

2793
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:29,560
THE THIRD CASE STUDY ARE RDP

2794
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:32,760
DIAGNOSTICS THAT WERE APPLIED TO

2795
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,920
THE SCIF WITH A SUBBASEMENT ROOM

2796
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:37,280
A TON OF SURFACE AREA AND THERE

2797
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:39,440
WAS A LOT OF AIR MOVEMENT TO

2798
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,120
KEEP EVERYTHING COOL THAT REALLY

2799
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:46,480
FACILITATED RDP PLAY-OUT.

2800
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,480
WE CALCULATEDDED THE EXPOSURE

2801
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:48,760
AND RISK.

2802
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:50,880
WE CONTINUOUSLY MEASURED BOTH

2803
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:52,560
RAID AND RDPs FOR A COUPLE DAY

2804
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,480
S AND THEN ADDED FANS AND

2805
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:59,000
FILTERS TO SEE IF THAT WOULD IM

2806
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:00,200
PACT EXPOSURE.

2807
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,280
ON THE RIGHT A LITTLE DIGRAM.

2808
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:03,960
THE TOP LEVEL IS ACTUALLY A BASE

2809
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:05,720
MENT AND THEN DOWN THE STAIR

2810
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:07,400
S TO A SUB-BASEM.

2811
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,600
THERE WAS AN AC IN THE MAIN ROOM

2812
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:10,880
MOVING A LOT OF AIR.

2813
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:13,600
THERE WAS AN AC AND A UNIT

2814
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:14,760
VENTILATOR IN THE SUB-BASEMENT

2815
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:18,880
AS WELL AND A LITTLE LIGHTNING

2816
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:20,880
BOLTS AND SMILEY FACES SHOWS

2817
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,320
WHERE ADDITIONAL FANS AND FILTER

2818
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:23,680
S WERE ADDED.

2819
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,720
SO HERE IS A CONTINUOUS GRAPH

2820
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:28,880
SHOWING RADON IN BLUE AND RDPs

2821
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,640
IN RED OVER THE STUDY PERIOD.

2822
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:33,680
THE RDP WORKING LEVEL IS ON THE

2823
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:39,680
FIRST Y AXIS AND THE RADON LEVEL

2824
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:41,720
S IS IN THE SECOND Y AXIS.

2825
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:43,760
AND THEN THE GUIDANCE LEVEL OF

2826
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:44,000
BOTH.

2827
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,560
YOU CAN SEE DURING THE FIRST

2828
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:47,920
COUPLE DAYS UNDER NORMAL

2829
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,040
CONDITIONS BOTH RAID AND RDPs

2830
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:51,440
ARE RELATIVELY LOW THEN ONCE THE

2831
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:53,240
AIR CLEANERS AND FANS ARE TURNED

2832
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:55,600
ON THE RDPs DROP TO BASICALLY

2833
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,680
LOWER LEVEL OF DETECTION, WHICH

2834
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,680
IS COMPARABLE TO OUTDOOR AIR AND

2835
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:03,640
UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS A STORM

2836
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,120
SO IT CUT OFF THE RDPs BUT

2837
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:07,440
INTERESTING BECAUSE WHILE THE

2838
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:08,280
POWER IS OFF YOU CAN SEE THAT

2839
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,200
THE RADON DROPS, SO IF THERE IS

2840
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:14,160
NO RADON THERE WOULD BE NO RDPs

2841
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,080
 EITHER BUT WHAT IT

2842
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:17,800
INDICATES IS THAT UNDER NORMAL,

2843
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:20,000
THE ROOM IS NORMALLY UNDER

2844
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:21,400
NEGATIVE PRESSURE WHEN THE AC

2845
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,840
UNIT IS ON AND # AND SO IT IS

2846
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:26,880
DRAWING IN RADON GAS UNDER NORM

2847
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:29,720
AL CONDITIONS AND THEN ONCE

2848
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:31,360
THE POWER CAME BACK ON YOU CAN

2849
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:35,080
SEE THE RADON SPIKEDDED TO

2850
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:38,920
AROUND 10; HOWEVER, THE RDPs

2851
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,560
MAINTAINED REALLY LOW BELOW

2852
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,480
THEIR ACTION LEVEL.

2853
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:44,520
SO BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE SURFACE

2854
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:46,120
AREA IN THERE AND THE MOVEMENT

2855
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:49,280
OF AIR IT REALLY FACILITATED RDP

2856
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,280
PLAY-OUT AND EXPOSURE WAS MUCH

2857
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,360
LOWER THAN WHAT THE RADON

2858
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:54,720
MEASUREMENT WAS INDICATING.

2859
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,880
SO MAIN TAKE AWAYS.

2860
01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:59,600
STANDARD RADON MITIGATION

2861
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:01,080
STRATEGIES MAY NOT WORK FOR

2862
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,280
CERTAIN MILITARY SPACES AND COST

2863
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,240
PROHIBITED FOR LARGE

2864
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,400
OCCUPATIONAL BUILDINGS.

2865
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:09,000
REPAIRS AND COST EFFECTIVE AND

2866
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,240
QUICK WAY TO SEE IF THAT AIR

2867
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:12,920
VENTILATION SYSTEM IS A CULPRIT,

2868
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,960
JUST REMEMBER IF IT IS AN HVAC

2869
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,800
REPAIR MAKE SURE THAT SYSTEM

2870
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,800
REMAINS FUNCTIONAL AND KEEP IN

2871
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,000
MIND ENERGY-SAVING STRATANYINGS

2872
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:24,120
THAT BLOCK FRESH AIR CAN CAUSE

2873
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:27,280
RADON ISSUES THEMSELVES.

2874
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,400
MAKE SURE TO RE-TEST EVERY TWO

2875
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,680
YEARS IN BUILDINGS THAT HAVE,

2876
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,160
AND ESPECIALLY TO TEST EVERY

2877
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:35,960
OCCUPIED ROOM BECAUSE AS WE'VE

2878
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,080
SEEN ONE ROOM OR A SECTION OF

2879
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,560
ROOMS CAN BE ELEVATED.

2880
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,480
RDP MEASUREMENTS PROVIDE ACTUAL

2881
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:45,160
EXPOSURE INFORMATION SO OUR

2882
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:47,760
EXPERIENCE DEMONSTRATED DUE TO

2883
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:52,880
THESE ROBUST AIR HANDLING SYSTEM

2884
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:54,440
S RADON LEVELS CAN BE OVER

2885
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,080
THE ACTION LEVEL AND YOU STILL

2886
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,360
HAVE RDP EXPOSURE WITHIN THE

2887
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,440
WORKING LEVEL OF .02.

2888
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:02,960
THESE MEASUREMENTS CAN BE USED

2889
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:06,520
TO SHOW LOW EXPOSURE BEFORE LIT

2890
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:10,080
IGATION SYSTEMS ARE INSTALLED

2891
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:18,600
OR AS AN ALTERNATE APPROACHES.

2892
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:19,680
AND FINALLY, EVERY BUILDING IS

2893
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:21,880
UNIQUE AND REQUIRES DIAGNOSTICS

2894
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,000
AND INVESTIGATION TO PROVIDE THE

2895
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,080
BEST AND MOST COST EFFECTIVE

2896
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:27,440
MITIGATION APPROACH.

2897
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,880
IT IS NOT ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL.

2898
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:33,880
AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION HERE

2899
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:35,880
HERE ARE SOME REFERENCES AND I

2900
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:37,800
THINK WE HAVE MAY BE JUST A

2901
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:38,920
COUPLE MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS, IF

2902
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,240
THERE ARE ANY.

2903
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:41,960
>> YES, RACHEL.

2904
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:43,480
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

2905
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:52,240
AND YES WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

2906
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:52,880
THEY ARE IN THE CHAT IF YOU WANT

2907
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:53,600
TO READ THEM.

2908
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:55,760
FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE VIDEO I

2909
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,240
JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THERE

2910
01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:01,320
IS A BUTTON THAT YOU CAN ASK THE

2911
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:05,520
QUESTIONS IN THE LIVE WEB CAST.

2912
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,680
WE READ THEM FROM THE CHAT

2913
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:09,920
BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS ALSO PUTTING

2914
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:10,240
THEM THERE.

2915
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:11,080
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO READ

2916
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:13,480
THEM AND ANSWER THEM.

2917
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:15,480
>> RACHEL: EPA RECOMMENDED

2918
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:18,000
ACTION LEVEL IS FOUR PER LITER

2919
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:20,160
FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURAL

2920
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:21,680
SCHOOLS ET CETERA, SHOULD OFFICE

2921
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:29,600
BUILDINGS FOLLOW OSHAIDES OSHA.

2922
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:32,120
I BELIEVE THE LEVEL 1 PER LITER

2923
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:34,760
AVERAGED OVER A 40 HOUR WORK

2924
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:35,560
WEEK.

2925
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:39,080
SO FOR THE IONIZING RADON

2926
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:40,280
STANDARD FROM WHAT I KNOW THAT

2927
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:43,480
REFERS MORE TO RADIATION THAT

2928
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:50,080
YOU'RE EXPOSED TO NOT JUST RADON

2929
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:54,760
THAT'S COMING FROM THE SOIL.

2930
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:57,800
SO FOR A LEGAL LIMIT, WHEN WE'RE

2931
01:59:57,800 --> 02:00:01,280
TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL VERSUS

2932
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:05,640
MAY BE OCCUPATIONAL IT COULD BE

2933
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:10,120
DIFFERENT #, SO OCCUPATIONAL 100

2934
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:11,920
PER LITER AVERAGED OVER A 40

2935
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:13,320
HOUR WORK WEEK.

2936
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:17,600
THAT IS A SUBJECTIVE QUESTION.

2937
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:20,080
THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT

2938
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:21,480
THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD SHOW SO

2939
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:23,600
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT

2940
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:26,080
THE GUIDANCE LEVEL PER LITER IS

2941
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:27,880
REALLY BASED ON RESIDENTIAL AND

2942
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:30,280
NOT FOR OCCUPATIONAL EXPOSURES

2943
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:33,000
AND THAT IONIZING RADON STANDARD

2944
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:35,840
IS MORE FOR SOURCES OF RADIATION

2945
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:36,320
, NOT SPECIFICALLY TALK

2946
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:39,480
TALKING RADON.

2947
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,680
SO UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T REALLY

2948
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:45,680
ANSWER THAT BUT IT IS SOMETHING

2949
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:48,840
TO CONSIDER WHEN TALKING ABOUT

2950
02:00:48,840 --> 02:00:49,280
OCCUPATIONAL SPACES.

2951
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:53,040
DO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A DoD

2952
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:54,840
REQUIREMENT FOR BUILDING IN

2953
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:56,320
RADON SYSTEMS IN NEW

2954
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:56,800
CONSTRUCTION.

2955
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,280
DoD FOR TESTING OF EXISTING?

2956
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:02,120
YES, SO THERE IS A DoD

2957
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:03,960
REQUIREMENT.

2958
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:09,400
WE FOLLOW NAVRAMP WHICH IS THE

2959
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:11,480
NAVY AND PROTOCOLS AND THEY DO,

2960
02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:15,640
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AN INITIAL

2961
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:16,280
ASSESSMENT AND DEPENDING ON IF

2962
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:18,080
THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR RADON

2963
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:19,880
MEANING IF ONE SPACE HAD

2964
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:21,840
ELEVATED RADON IT WOULD BE A

2965
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:23,640
RADON POTENTIAL CATEGORY ONE AND

2966
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:29,600
AS AN RPC1 THEY SHOULD IMPLEMENT

2967
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:31,040
RADON RESISTANCE NEW

2968
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:32,520
CONSTRUCTION TO ENSURE THERE

2969
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,080
ISN'T ANY ELEVATED RADON IN ANY

2970
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:34,880
NEW CONSTRUCTION.

2971
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:39,400
THAT IS ALSO STATE AND LOCAL

2972
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:39,720
SPECIFIC TOO.

2973
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:41,800
SO MAKE SURE TO SEE IF YOUR

2974
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:44,040
STATE HAS A PROGRAM.

2975
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:45,080
THAT MAY REQUIRE SOMETHING LIKE

2976
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:49,760
THAT.

2977
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:53,080
>> WE ARE PAST 2:30 SO I DON'T

2978
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:54,680
KNOW IF YOU NEED ME TO STOP.

2979
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:55,880
>> WE'LL DO ONE MORE AND SWITCH

2980
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:58,120
TO THE OTHER PRESENTATION.

2981
02:01:58,120 --> 02:01:59,000
THANK YOU.

2982
02:01:59,000 --> 02:01:59,640
>> RACHEL: OKAY.

2983
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:01,400
LET ME DO WHY ARE GOVERNMENT

2984
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:03,960
QUARTERS HOUSING WITH FAMILY

2985
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:05,640
TESTING?

2986
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:05,920
SO THEY ARE.

2987
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,160
WE, AS CONTRACTORS, WERE HIRED

2988
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:09,880
TO TEST THE NON-RESIDENTIAL

2989
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:12,080
BUILDINGS BUT THE FAMILY AND

2990
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:15,280
HOUSING WERE TESTED BEFORE.

2991
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:17,480
SO I'M SORRY IF I MADE IT SEEM

2992
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:19,000
LIKE THEY WERE NEVER TESTED, I

2993
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,000
JUST PERSONALLY WAS TALKING

2994
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:24,680
ABOUT NON-RESIDENTIAL.

2995
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:24,880
OKAY.

2996
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:25,120
ALL RIGHT.

2997
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:26,440
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

2998
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:28,880
AND I WILL PUT MY E-MAIL UP HERE

2999
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:30,840
SO IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL

3000
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:32,360
QUESTIONS YOU CAN SEND THEM TO

3001
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:32,520
ME.

3002
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:33,880
THANK YOU.

3003
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:37,000
>> THANK YOU AND WE'LL LET THE

3004
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:38,200
PARTICIPANTS SOMEHOW TRY TO

3005
02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:39,600
FIGURE OUT HOW TO SEND THOSE

3006
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:40,920
E-MAIL ADDRESSES TO THEM BUT WE

3007
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:41,240
WILL.

3008
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:42,840
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

3009
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:43,120
>> GREAT.

3010
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:47,840
THANK YOU.

3011
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:49,840
WE HAD A QUESTION THAT WE

3012
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:51,840
WERE NOT ABLE, RACHEL, IF YOU

3013
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:53,600
STILL ARE ON-LINE, IF YOU CAN

3014
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:55,880
ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT WE WERE

3015
02:02:55,880 --> 02:03:05,600
NOT ABLE TO ANSWER BEFORE.

3016
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:10,080
MANY OF THE RADON MITIGATION

3017
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:13,640
MEASURES SOME FOR OFFICE

3018
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:13,880
PROTOCOLS.

3019
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:14,880
>> RACHEL: HI.

3020
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,960
YES.

3021
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:20,400
SIMILAR TO SUGGESTIONS FOR

3022
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:24,640
OFFICE PROTOCOLS SUCH AS AIR

3023
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:25,520
STIMULATION AND FILTRATION DO

3024
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:27,440
SEE RADON AWARENESS AND

3025
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:28,840
MITIGATION POST-COVID.

3026
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:31,560
A LITTLE BIT OF OPINION BASED

3027
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,840
TOO.

3028
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:35,760
YES, SO AIR CIRCULATION AND

3029
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:38,840
FILTRATION ARE DEFINITELY ALTERN

3030
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:39,320
ATIVE METHODS AND THEY

3031
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:46,240
COULD BE USED IN THE INTERIM TOO

3032
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:47,760
ANYMORE YOU USE H VAC REPAIR

3033
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:50,160
THESE TYPE OF METHODS JUST MAKE

3034
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:50,840
SURE THAT THE MAINTENANCE CREW

3035
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,240
IS AWARE, BECAUSE YOU NEED TO

3036
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:55,240
MAINTAIN WHATEVER YOU PUT IN

3037
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:57,240
PLACE AS PART OF THAT PREVENTIVE

3038
02:03:57,240 --> 02:03:57,560
MAINTENANCE.

3039
02:03:57,560 --> 02:04:00,040
# SO THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT,

3040
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:02,360
AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE TO RETEST

3041
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:03,760
EVERY TWO YEARS SO THERE NEEDS

3042
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:05,440
TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE

3043
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:07,240
MAINTENANCE PLAN NO MATTER WHAT

3044
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:08,640
STRATEGY YOU USE.

3045
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:10,520
THE SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION

3046
02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:14,520
IS IT TYPICALLY MOST APPROPRIATE

3047
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:16,480
FOR OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY STAFF TO

3048
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:18,040
LEAD RADON MITIGATION EFFORTS?

3049
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:21,600
SO UNFORTUNATELY RADON IS A

3050
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:22,840
LITTLE COMPLICATED TAKE, MULTI-

3051
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:23,920
DEPARTMENT APPROACH KIND

3052
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:24,520
OF.

3053
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:27,400
SO YOU DO HAVE THE OCCUPATIONAL

3054
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:29,000
SAFETY COMPONENT OF IT BECAUSE

3055
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:31,160
RADON IS A HEALTH HAZARD, BUT IT

3056
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:34,840
ALSO ANY KIND OF MITIGATION

3057
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:36,520
EFFORT NEEDS TO AGAIN BE PUT IN

3058
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:38,880
PLACE YOU NEED TO WORK WITH THE

3059
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:41,640
UTILITIES OR BUILDING MANAGERS

3060
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:44,880
TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER

3061
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:45,960
MITIGATION STRATEGY IS IMPLEMENT

3062
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:47,040
ED IS MAINTAINING AS

3063
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:48,840
PART OF THAT PREVENTIVE

3064
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:51,840
MAINTENANCE OR IF IT IS A MORE

3065
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:53,200
TRADITIONAL LIKE AN ACTIVE

3066
02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:54,920
SYSTEM LIKE ASD THAT'S PUT IN

3067
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:56,960
PLACE THEN YOU NEED TO IN

3068
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:59,760
CORPORATE THAT INTO ENGINEER

3069
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:03,360
ING AND DESIGN AND GET

3070
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:04,720
IT CONSTRUCTED SO IT IS DEFINITE

3071
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:10,440
LY KIND OF A MULL- MULTI

3072
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:11,440
-DEPARTMENT APPROACH.

3073
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:14,240
BUT FOR THE HEALTH PERSPECTIVE

3074
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:15,360
AWARENESS AND TRAINING THAT MAY

3075
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:16,960
BE MORE HEALTH AND SAFETY BUT

3076
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:17,760
DEFINITELY FOR MITIGATION

3077
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,520
EFFORTS YOU NEED TO INCORPORATE

3078
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:22,440
MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

3079
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,280
HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED

3080
02:05:24,280 --> 02:05:24,600
EVERYTHING.

3081
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,960
THANK YOU.

3082
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:33,440
>> THANK YOU.

3083
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:35,520
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO NEXT

3084
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:36,240
PRESENTATION AND AFTER THIS

3085
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:38,040
PRESENTATION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

3086
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:40,920
A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

3087
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:44,040
JAMES WILL COME BACK AS THE

3088
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:45,720
MODERATOR FOR THE LAST

3089
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:47,640
PRESENTATION OF THIS TRACK.

3090
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:53,600
SO THIS NEXT PRESENTATION IS MAN

3091
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:56,240
AGING SUPPLY CHAIN RISK BY

3092
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:57,800
CAROLE MARS.

3093
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:00,520
A 2020 AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR

3094
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:01,560
ADVANCED SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

3095
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:04,280
FOR POLICY FELLOW.

3096
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:05,280
DURING THIS FELLOWSHIP SHE'S

3097
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:08,800
WORKED IN THE OFFICE OF

3098
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:09,560
ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY

3099
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:10,480
TRANSPORTATIONITION.

3100
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:16,440
HER WORK FOCUSES ON SUSTAINABLE

3101
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:18,280
POLL CUREMENT AND DoD SUPPLY

3102
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:18,880
CHAINS.

3103
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:20,480
PRIOR TO HER FELLOWSHIP DR. MARS

3104
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:22,920
WAS THE DIRECTOR OF TECHNICAL

3105
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:26,880
DEVELOPMENT AND INNOVATION FOR

3106
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:32,640
SUSTAINABILITY CONSORTIUM.

3107
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:35,400
AND SERVED AS THE TECHNICAL

3108
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:37,480
ADVISOR FOR THE COALITION.

3109
02:06:37,480 --> 02:06:42,240
DR. MARS EARNED HER PH.D. AT

3110
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:43,520
PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY IN

3111
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:46,360
SERVICE FOR ANALYTICAL CHEMISTRY

3112
02:06:46,360 --> 02:06:49,120
AND HER BACHELORS OF SCIENCE IN

3113
02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:49,920
CHEMISTRY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF

3114
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:50,240
ARIZONA.

3115
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:52,960
WITH THAT I LEAVE YOU WITH

3116
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:56,480
CAROLE MARS.

3117
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:56,920
>> CAROLE: HELLO.

3118
02:06:56,920 --> 02:06:58,520
CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT?

3119
02:06:58,520 --> 02:07:02,880
>> YES.

3120
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,560
>> CAROLE: PERFECT.

3121
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:06,720
>> PUT UP YOUR SCREEN JUST TO

3122
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:07,560
MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WORKS FINE.

3123
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:21,280
# OKAY HOW DOES THAT LOOK?

3124
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:22,280
>> I CAN SEE IT.

3125
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:24,040
IF YOU CAN PUT IT ON

3126
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:24,720
PRESENTATION MODE THAT WOULD BE

3127
02:07:24,720 --> 02:07:28,440
BETTER SO IT IS BIG FOR THE

3128
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,160
PEOPLE TO SEE.

3129
02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:32,640
>> CAROLE: OKAY IT'S THERE.

3130
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:35,680
>> PUT IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

3131
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:38,080
I THINK IF YOU GO IN

3132
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:39,840
PRESENTATION MODE IT MIGHT GET A

3133
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:41,280
LITTLE BIGGER.

3134
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:42,840
>> CAROLE: THAT WAS PRESENTATION

3135
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:52,720
MODE.

3136
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:56,640
I DON'T KNOW DID THAT NOT CHANGE

3137
02:07:56,640 --> 02:08:01,960
>> I THINK IT COULD BE A LITTLE

3138
02:08:01,960 --> 02:08:02,920
BIGGER, IF NOT THAT WOULD BE

3139
02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:04,640
OKAY.

3140
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:07,120
>> CAROLE: ALL RIGHT.

3141
02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:09,840
YEAH, I THINK THAT UNFORTUNATELY

3142
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:14,240
I HAD TO SWAP COMPUTERS SO THIS

3143
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:16,280
WAS NOT THE ONE THAT IT WAS

3144
02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:18,640
SUPPOSED TO BE ON.

3145
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:19,040
I CAN TRY THIS.

3146
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:32,840
LET'S TRY IT THIS WAY.

3147
02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:35,240
>> THAT'S PERFECT.

3148
02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:35,600
>> EXCELLENT.

3149
02:08:35,600 --> 02:08:35,800
OKAY.

3150
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,160
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

3151
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:39,840
MY NAME IS DR. CAROLE MARS AND

3152
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,880
I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING

3153
02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:44,240
WITH A CHEMICAL MATERIALS RISK

3154
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:46,480
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IN THE OFFICE

3155
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:48,520
OF ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY RE

3156
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:50,640
SILIENCE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF

3157
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:51,720
DEFENSE DURING MY FELLOWSHIP.

3158
02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:54,120
SO I'M HERE TO TALK TODAY ABOUT

3159
02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:58,160
CHEMICAL AND MATERIAL DISCLOSURE

3160
02:08:58,160 --> 02:09:00,040
WHY WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT

3161
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:01,800
THIS AND HOW THE DoD IS

3162
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:09,400
APPROACHING THIS TOPIC THROUGH

3163
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:10,000
TO IMPROVE ITS OWN VISIBILITY

3164
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:11,680
INTO ITS OWN SUPPLY CHAINS TO

3165
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:16,600
KNOW WHERE POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS

3166
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:17,640
CHEMICALS WOULD BE.

3167
02:09:17,640 --> 02:09:18,400
SO TO HELP FRAME THE

3168
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:22,880
CONVERSATION STARTING WITH SORT

3169
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:24,640
OF A HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE AND

3170
02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:29,360
THIS IS THAT THE YOU ARE A

3171
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:30,640
MANUFACTURER OF A COMPLEX

3172
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:34,440
PRODUCT, SAY A LAPTOP, THIS ONE

3173
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:37,120
HAPPENS TO BE DELL, THEY PROVIDE

3174
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:40,480
VERY NICE HUMEANICS WITHIN THEIR

3175
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:42,720
USERS MANUAL.

3176
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:44,880
SO YOU HEAR THAT THE EPA IS

3177
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:48,080
GOING TO REGULATE A CHEMICAL AND

3178
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:48,680
YOU KNOW OR SUSPECT THAT CHEM

3179
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:51,720
ICAL IS IN YOUR LAPTOP AND

3180
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:53,080
YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO FIGURE

3181
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:56,280
OUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.

3182
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:57,640
BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT

3183
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:00,000
THE PARTS THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED

3184
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,320
YOU REALIZE THAT YOU ARE USING

3185
02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:05,520
KEY COMPONENTS OF YOUR LAPTOP

3186
02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:09,440
AND IF THIS CHEMICAL DOES GO

3187
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:10,440
AWAY YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO

3188
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,840
FIND REPLACEMENTS ABOUT THIS AND

3189
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:14,600
THAT MEANS YOU NEED TO ENGAGE

3190
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:16,240
WITH YOUR SUPPLIERS TO FIND OUT

3191
02:10:16,240 --> 02:10:18,280
WHERE THESE MATERIALS ARE.

3192
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:20,600
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN'T

3193
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:22,440
PUT TOGETHER A LAPTOP IF YOU

3194
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:25,640
DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THESE CHEM

3195
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:26,200
ICALS AND SO THAT'S WHY

3196
02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:28,360
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT DIS

3197
02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:33,400
CLOSURE IS THAT WHILE THAT

3198
02:10:33,400 --> 02:10:35,560
MIGHT SEEM A BIT OVER THE TOP

3199
02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:37,840
FOR EXAMPLE BUT THIS ACTUALLY

3200
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:42,600
HAPPENED JUST LAST YEAR WHEN THE

3201
02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:50,840
USDA PUT A RESTRICTION ON A CHEM

3202
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:56,560
ICAL PIP 3.1, BOTH A FLAME

3203
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,160
RETARDANT AND A PLASTICIZER SO

3204
02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:00,960
NOT ONLY IF YOUR PARTS OVERHEAT

3205
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,440
WILL THEY NOT BURST INTO FLAME

3206
02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:05,240
BUT YOU CAN GET FLEXIBLE CABLING

3207
02:11:05,240 --> 02:11:07,320
AND CORDS AND CONNECTORS AS WELL

3208
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:10,320
SO VERY USEFUL, USED IN A LOT OF

3209
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:10,640
PLACES.

3210
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:13,440
THE REGULATION WAS NOT A

3211
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:13,720
SURPRISE.

3212
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:16,440
THE PROCESS WENT BY THE BOOK AND

3213
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:18,960
WAS OPEN FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

3214
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,280
THERE WERE PLENTY OF EXEMPTIONS

3215
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:22,760
BECAUSE THIS CHEMICAL IS ALSO

3216
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:27,360
KNOWN AS BEING USED AS A

3217
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:31,120
LUBRICANT AND HYDRAULING FLUID

3218
02:11:31,120 --> 02:11:32,880
SO ITS PRESENCE AND EXAMPLETIONS

3219
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:35,640
WERE PUT IN PLACE, THE PROBLEM

3220
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:37,080
WAS NOBLE KNEW THIS WAS USED IN

3221
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:39,240
CABLES AND IT WAS A VENDOR WHO

3222
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:40,840
LET THEIR CUSTOMERS KNOW THAT

3223
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:42,840
HEY THIS CHEMICAL GOES AWAY WE

3224
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:48,240
HAVE A PROBLEM.

3225
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:49,840
SO THROUGH THE ENGAGEMENT

3226
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:54,920
INDUSTRY AND USDA HAD DELAYED

3227
02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:56,080
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE REGULATION

3228
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:57,560
BUT IT IS STILL VERY MUCH OUT

3229
02:11:57,560 --> 02:12:00,760
THERE AND NOW BECAUSE THERE WAS

3230
02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:02,640
THIS FACILITATED INTO THE SUPPLY

3231
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:06,840
CHAIN THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE AND

3232
02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:07,800
CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF DEVICES

3233
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:09,520
MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE USED IF

3234
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:11,040
THE INDUSTRY DOESN'T FIGURE OUT

3235
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:14,640
HOW TO DO THIS.

3236
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:16,080
NOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE WELL PICK

3237
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:18,040
THROUGH ONE MAY NOT HAVE GRABBED

3238
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:22,040
A LOT OF HEADLINE ATTENTION,

3239
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:23,440
CERTAINLY THE PFAS, AND THIS IS

3240
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:24,840
VERY MUCH OF THE SAME SITUATION.

3241
02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:28,160
WE HAVE 5,000 PLUS DIFFERENT

3242
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:29,840
MOLECULES THAT CAN BE CLASPED

3243
02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:33,240
UNDER PFAS AND THESE ARE THREAT

3244
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:35,560
ENING TO GO AWAY.

3245
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:38,760
THE EUROPEAN UNION IS SERIOUSLY

3246
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:41,640
LOOKING AT BANNING ALL OF THE,

3247
02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:43,520
THE WHOLE COMPOUNDS NOT JUST ONE

3248
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:45,440
OR TWO AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN

3249
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:47,160
BUT BANNING THEM ALL AND WE

3250
02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:50,040
DON'T HAVE A WAY TO EFFECTIVELY

3251
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:51,360
TRACK AND IDENTIFY WHERE THESE

3252
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:53,960
CHEMICALS ARE SO WE CAN'T

3253
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:55,600
IDENTIFY WHAT OUR RISK IS.

3254
02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:57,360
NOW AS FAR AS THE REGULATIONS

3255
02:12:57,360 --> 02:12:58,840
FOR DEPLETING THESE RISKS HERE

3256
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:03,440
IN THE U.S., THE U.S.

3257
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:05,960
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY

3258
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:10,840
WORKS WITH TOSCA WHICH IS THE

3259
02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:13,840
TOXIC SUBSTANCE CONTROL ACT AND

3260
02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:17,920
THAT IS WHAT ALLOWS THEM TO REG

3261
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:18,120
ULATE.

3262
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:19,960
ON THE EUROPEAN SIDE THE SAME

3263
02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:22,320
FUNCTION IS SERVED BY THE

3264
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:24,720
EUROPEAN CHEMICALS AGENCY AND

3265
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:27,200
THEIR RESTRICTION EVALUATION,

3266
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:28,920
AUTHORIZATION AND RESTRICTION OF

3267
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:33,680
CHEMICALS WHICH IS ECHA REG

3268
02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:35,800
ULATIONS, THIS IS ENFORCED IN

3269
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:39,440
2007 AND IS MUCH BROADER IN ITS

3270
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:46,920
SCOPE AND ABILITY TO PERMIT, RE

3271
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:48,480
STRICT AND DIFFERENT CHEMICALS

3272
02:13:48,480 --> 02:13:49,640
IN THE EUROPEAN MARKET.

3273
02:13:49,640 --> 02:13:52,040
NOW BOTH AGENCIES DO MAINTAIN

3274
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:53,720
LISTS OF THE CHEMICALS AND

3275
02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:54,680
MATERIALS THEY ARE CONSIDERING,

3276
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:56,440
NOT JUST THE ONES THEY HAVE

3277
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:58,440
ALREADY REGULATED.

3278
02:13:58,440 --> 02:14:01,960
SO IN THIS CASE COMPANIES COULD

3279
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:04,480
IN THEORY LOOK AT HOW THOSE

3280
02:14:04,480 --> 02:14:05,480
POTENTIALLY REGULATED CHEMICALS

3281
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:06,840
ARE ALREADY IN THEIR SUPPLY

3282
02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:12,600
CHAINS AND DEAL WITH THEM IN A

3283
02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:16,040
PROACTIVE FASHION AND THIS WILL

3284
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:18,640
COME BACK LATER IN OUR STORY.

3285
02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:22,840
SO I NOTE ALSO HERE THERE IS THE

3286
02:14:22,840 --> 02:14:26,840
NAME SCIP DATABASE IN NEW YORK,

3287
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:28,320
THE SUBSTANCE OF CONCERN

3288
02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:29,600
PRODUCTS DATABASE THAT REQUIRES

3289
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:31,600
MANDATORY OF REPORTING OF CHEM

3290
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:35,600
ICALS THAT MAY BE DEEMED

3291
02:14:35,600 --> 02:14:36,720
HAZARDOUS WITHIN THE EUROPEAN

3292
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:38,880
UNION AND THIS IS ACROSS THE

3293
02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:44,480
BOARD AND IT WAS ONLY IMPLEMENT

3294
02:14:44,480 --> 02:14:46,640
ED LAST YEAR SO WHETHER

3295
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:51,840
OR NOT THIS TYPE OF BROAD MARKET

3296
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:54,240
DISCLOSURE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO

3297
02:14:54,240 --> 02:14:56,880
WORK WE HAVE YET TO SEE BUT THEY

3298
02:14:56,880 --> 02:15:01,280
ARE COLLECTING A LOT OF

3299
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:02,600
INFORMATION.

3300
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:03,240
AND THESE REGULATIONS WHILE WE

3301
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:08,280
TEND TO FOCUS MOST ON TOSCA AND

3302
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:09,880
BREACH THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO

3303
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:11,600
U.S. AND EUROPEAN.

3304
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:13,520
COUNTRIES ACROSS THE WORLD ARE

3305
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:19,880
REGULATING THEIR MATERIALS AND

3306
02:15:19,880 --> 02:15:20,880
HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS AND LISTS

3307
02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:23,840
OF WHAT THEY ARE REGULATING,

3308
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:24,560
DIFFERENT REASONS, DIFFERENT

3309
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:24,840
TESTING.

3310
02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:26,240
SO THERE IS A LOT OF VARIATION

3311
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:28,440
OUT THERE, ALL OF WHICH NEEDS TO

3312
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:30,840
BE TRACKED TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE

3313
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:34,440
OUT WHERE YOUR RISK IS.

3314
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:38,840
SO WHAT IS, DISCLOSURE IN THE

3315
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:39,360
U.S. RIGHT NOW.

3316
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:43,720
IT REALLY COMES BACK TO THE

3317
02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:46,720
HAZARD DIAMONDS THAT I'M SURE

3318
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:47,800
EVERYONE HERE IS FAMILIAR WITH

3319
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:51,040
OR SEEN ON THE SIDE OF A TRUCK

3320
02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:53,280
AS FAR AS MARKETING GOES.

3321
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:53,840
THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE

3322
02:15:53,840 --> 02:15:57,160
SAFETY DATA SHEETS ARE THE

3323
02:15:57,160 --> 02:15:57,760
PRIMARY DISCLOSURE MECHANISMS

3324
02:15:57,760 --> 02:16:03,840
WITHIN THE U.S. MANAGED BY OSHA

3325
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:04,320
AND BY THE DEPARTMENT OF

3326
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:07,200
TRANSPORTATION, DEPENDING ON

3327
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:07,920
WHERE THE LOCAL IS GOING BUT THE

3328
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:09,440
SAFETY DATA SHEETS WILL GIVE YOU

3329
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:10,480
INFORMATION ON WHAT THE CHEMICAL

3330
02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:14,320
IS, PHYSICAL PROPERTIES, WHY IT

3331
02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:16,480
WOULD BE HAZARDOUS, WHAT YOU DO

3332
02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:20,600
IN CASE OF EXPOSURE.

3333
02:16:20,600 --> 02:16:21,080
ALL VERY, VERY IMPORTANT

3334
02:16:21,080 --> 02:16:23,200
INFORMATION FOR A WORKPLACE AND

3335
02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:24,680
MAKING SURE THAT YOUR WORKERS

3336
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:28,880
ARE STAYING SAFE AND AWARE OF

3337
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:29,680
THE HAZARDS AROUND THEM BUT MAY

3338
02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:31,960
BE NOT ALL THAT USEFUL IF YOU'RE

3339
02:16:31,960 --> 02:16:34,400
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S IN A

3340
02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:35,240
COMPONENT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT

3341
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:36,480
IS GOING TO BE REGULATED.

3342
02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:38,240
THE INTERNATIONAL VERSION IS

3343
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:40,440
CALLED THE GLOBAL HARMONIZED

3344
02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:40,640
SYSTEM.

3345
02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:42,920
SO THESE ARE, THIS IS A SINGLE

3346
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:46,480
FORMAT FOR SAFETY DATA SHEETS

3347
02:16:46,480 --> 02:16:49,560
GLOBALLY SO THAT REGARDLESS IF

3348
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:51,360
CHEMICALS ARE BEING IMPORTED OR

3349
02:16:51,360 --> 02:16:53,800
EXPORTED PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE

3350
02:16:53,800 --> 02:16:55,040
SAME INFORMATION OR SIMILAR

3351
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:57,760
INFORMATION IN THE SAME FORMAT

3352
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:00,920
AND TO BE ABLE TO BE USED AND

3353
02:17:00,920 --> 02:17:03,760
TRACK HAZARDS.

3354
02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:07,160
NOW THE CHALLENGE IS THESE

3355
02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:08,760
MECHANISMS/TOOLS USE ALREADY REG

3356
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:10,040
ULATED CHEMICALS.

3357
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:13,120
SO IF SOMETHING HAZARD BEEN REG

3358
02:17:13,120 --> 02:17:13,640
ULATED IT IS NOT GOING TO

3359
02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:24,440
SHOW UP ON AN SDS.

3360
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:28,080
AND AN SDS A NOT ADEQUATE FOR A

3361
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:29,760
SUPPLY CHAIN RISK.

3362
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:30,320
WHAT THEN?

3363
02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:32,040
THE MOVE IS TO THEN MOVE INTO

3364
02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:33,840
DISCLOSURE.

3365
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:38,840
THERE IS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT

3366
02:17:38,840 --> 02:17:42,800
MULTIPLE ROUTES.

3367
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:44,640
FEDERAL IT IS NOT THERE.

3368
02:17:44,640 --> 02:17:46,280
SOMEONE LIKE LED IT IS A REG

3369
02:17:46,280 --> 02:17:50,920
ULATED MATERIAL THIS PRODUCT

3370
02:17:50,920 --> 02:17:55,520
DOES NOT HAVE LED IN IT.

3371
02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:56,240
CONFIRMATION DECLARATION IS THE

3372
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:57,920
FLIP SIDE OF THAT.

3373
02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:00,080
OUR PRODUCT MEETS YOUR SPEC

3374
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:00,360
IFICATION.

3375
02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:02,320
IF IT IS A PURE LEVEL OR CAN

3376
02:18:02,320 --> 02:18:03,440
ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF

3377
02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:09,640
CONTAMINATION BELOW YOUR .1% OF

3378
02:18:09,640 --> 02:18:10,920
THE FORMULATION A COMPANY COMES

3379
02:18:10,920 --> 02:18:13,160
IN AND SAYS YES, OUR PRODUCT

3380
02:18:13,160 --> 02:18:14,920
MEETS THAT SO YOU DON'T REALLY

3381
02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:18,240
LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PRODUCT BE

3382
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:22,920
SIDES DOES IT MEET THE SPECT

3383
02:18:22,920 --> 02:18:23,480
NORTH CAROLINA.

3384
02:18:23,480 --> 02:18:25,000
AND THEN THE THIRD TYPE AND THIS

3385
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:27,560
IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING TO NOW IS

3386
02:18:27,560 --> 02:18:30,200
THE MATERIAL DECLARATION WHICH

3387
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:32,440
IS WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THE

3388
02:18:32,440 --> 02:18:32,640
PRODUCT.

3389
02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:35,440
AND THAT WILL TELL YOU WHAT IS

3390
02:18:35,440 --> 02:18:36,840
THERE.

3391
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:38,640
AND DEPENDING ON HOW YOU

3392
02:18:38,640 --> 02:18:40,440
CONSTRUCT YOUR DISCLOSURE

3393
02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:45,320
REQUEST CAN TELL YOU WHAT IS

3394
02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:50,160
THERE THAT IS BEYOND JUST REG

3395
02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:50,560
ULATED CHEMICALS.

3396
02:18:50,560 --> 02:18:53,720
FULL DISCLOSURE IS AN EXTREME

3397
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:55,280
END OF THIS WHERE EVERYTHING IS

3398
02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:58,440
LISTED.

3399
02:18:58,440 --> 02:19:00,520
EVERY CHEMICAL, EVERY ELEMENT,

3400
02:19:00,520 --> 02:19:01,920
ALL OF THE WAY DOWN THROUGH ALL

3401
02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:04,160
OF THE PRODUCTS AND ALL OF THE

3402
02:19:04,160 --> 02:19:06,880
COMPONENTS, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL

3403
02:19:06,880 --> 02:19:09,560
AND INK THING PROACTIVELY IS

3404
02:19:09,560 --> 02:19:10,880
LIKE THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THEN

3405
02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:12,040
YOU HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION

3406
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:12,840
AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FIND

3407
02:19:12,840 --> 02:19:15,920
THE CHEMICAL THAT'S BEING REG

3408
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:20,840
ULATED AND PREPARE THE LIST

3409
02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:23,200
AND RISK MANAGE.

3410
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:25,080
UNFORTUNATELY IT IS NOT THAT

3411
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:28,440
SIMPLE WHEN YOU START WORKING AT

3412
02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:29,240
THE SUPPLY CHAINS.

3413
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:30,880
SIMPLE SUPPLY CHAINS WE'VE COME

3414
02:19:30,880 --> 02:19:34,440
TO THINK ABOUT AS EXTRACTION

3415
02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:35,960
MANUFACTURER ASSEMBLY USE DIS

3416
02:19:35,960 --> 02:19:36,160
POSAL.

3417
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:41,680
IT IS A CHAIN, IT IS A LINE, BUT

3418
02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:45,200
THEN INTO EACH OF THOSE BOXES

3419
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:46,880
COMPANIES NEED MORE MATERIAL AND

3420
02:19:46,880 --> 02:19:50,240
SOME OF THEM MAY SUPPLY ANOTHER

3421
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:51,040
VENDOR WHO SUPPLIES A DIFFERENT

3422
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:54,440
SPOT, BUT YOU CAN SEE EVEN IN A

3423
02:19:54,440 --> 02:19:55,960
STRAIGHT LINE THIS CAN GET

3424
02:19:55,960 --> 02:19:56,920
CHALLENGING VERY QUICKLY IF

3425
02:19:56,920 --> 02:19:59,840
YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS

3426
02:19:59,840 --> 02:20:01,640
THE CHEMICAL USED IN ONE OF

3427
02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:04,040
THOSE GOLD BOXES.

3428
02:20:04,040 --> 02:20:05,720
UNFORTUNATELY REALITY IS NOT

3429
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:08,640
THIS SIMPLE AND THE REAL SUPPLY

3430
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:10,440
CHAIN ARE NOW BEING MAPPED OUT

3431
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:13,000
TO LOOK LIKE THIS IS NETWORKS

3432
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:14,640
RATHER THAN A LINEAR CHAIN.

3433
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:16,840
THIS ONE IS AN ELECTRONICS

3434
02:20:16,840 --> 02:20:19,440
COMPANY AND IT STARTS FROM THEIR

3435
02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:20,640
PERSPECTIVE AT THE CENTER OF THE

3436
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,800
LARM BLACK DOT AND SO ALL OF

3437
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:23,720
SMALL DOTS AND ALL OF THE NET

3438
02:20:23,720 --> 02:20:27,840
WORK AROUND THEM IS THEIR

3439
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:29,040
SUPPLY NETWORK.

3440
02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:30,840
THE CHALLENGE NOW BECOMES HOW DO

3441
02:20:30,840 --> 02:20:37,480
YOU FIND OUT WHAT ALL OF THOSE

3442
02:20:37,480 --> 02:20:38,840
COMPANIES ARE USING WHEN YOU MAY

3443
02:20:38,840 --> 02:20:40,520
NOT EVEN HAVE A DIRECT

3444
02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:42,600
CONNECTION TO THEM, SO YOU'LL

3445
02:20:42,600 --> 02:20:45,200
HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR SUPPLIER

3446
02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:46,400
'S SUPPLIER TO FIND OUT

3447
02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:47,840
IF THOSE CHEMICALS ARE THERE AND

3448
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:50,800
IT IS A VERY COMPLEX SYSTEM BUT

3449
02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:54,880
IT ALSO IS VERY, WHEN YOU START

3450
02:20:54,880 --> 02:20:55,920
TALKING ABOUT CONFIGURATION IT

3451
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:58,040
TAKES A LOT OF RISK INTO THOSE

3452
02:20:58,040 --> 02:20:58,480
COMPANIES.

3453
02:20:58,480 --> 02:21:00,240
IF ONE OF THOSE DOTS GET KNOCKED

3454
02:21:00,240 --> 02:21:02,120
OUT BECAUSE IT IS USING A CHEM

3455
02:21:02,120 --> 02:21:03,360
ICAL THAT IS NOW BANNED IT

3456
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:04,560
IS GOING TO BE CREATING CHAOS IN

3457
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:06,520
THE SYSTEM AND COMPANIES ARE A

3458
02:21:06,520 --> 02:21:08,760
CUTELY AWARE OF THIS, EVEN WELL

3459
02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:13,040
BEFORE # THE PANDEMIC.

3460
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:18,440
AND SO MANAGING THIS RISK IS IN

3461
02:21:18,440 --> 02:21:23,240
THEIR INTEREST FOR HOW THEY ARE

3462
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:30,360
MANAGING THEIR PIECES.

3463
02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:30,960
FORMAL MATERIAL WOULD BE IDEAL

3464
02:21:30,960 --> 02:21:33,280
BUTTOCK LOOKING AT THIS IT

3465
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:34,920
REALLY ISN'T PRACTICAL BUT REG

3466
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:35,600
ULATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO

3467
02:21:35,600 --> 02:21:36,560
EXIST AND CONTINUE TO POSE RISK

3468
02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:38,640
#.

3469
02:21:38,640 --> 02:21:40,800
SUPPLY CHAINS AREN'T GETTING ANY

3470
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:43,680
SIMPLER, SO WHAT DO YOU DO.

3471
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:44,640
THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE

3472
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:46,880
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THIS HAS

3473
02:21:46,880 --> 02:21:48,240
BEEN PRESENTED.

3474
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:50,680
ONE OF THE CERTAIN CLASSIC

3475
02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:51,640
EXAMPLES NOW IS THE INTER

3476
02:21:51,640 --> 02:21:52,560
NATIONAL MATERIAL DATA

3477
02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:57,720
SYSTEM, SO THIS IS THE AUTO

3478
02:21:57,720 --> 02:21:58,880
MOTIVE INDUSTRY'S ANSWER ON

3479
02:21:58,880 --> 02:22:00,440
HOW DO YOU DISCLOSE DATA.

3480
02:22:00,440 --> 02:22:02,840
SO THIS IS WHAT'S CALLED LIST

3481
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:04,520
BASED DISCLOSURE.

3482
02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:07,240
SO THE INDUSTRIES COME TOGETHER,

3483
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:09,640
MADE A BIG LIST OF ALL OF THE

3484
02:22:09,640 --> 02:22:11,640
DIFFERENT MATERIALS THAT ARE

3485
02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:14,200
ALREADY REGULATED OR HAVE A HIGH

3486
02:22:14,200 --> 02:22:16,560
PROBABILITY OF BEING REGULATED

3487
02:22:16,560 --> 02:22:19,840
DED AND GO TO THE

3488
02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:21,440
SUPPLIER AND SAYS ARE THESE

3489
02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:23,640
MATERIALS IN THE COMPONENTS

3490
02:22:23,640 --> 02:22:25,640
YOU'VE PROVIDED US.

3491
02:22:25,640 --> 02:22:26,840
THEN TIER 1 GOES YES AND YES ON

3492
02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:28,560
THESE TWO THINGS BUT WE'LL HAVE

3493
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:30,760
TO GO ASK OUR SUPPLIERS SO THEY

3494
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:34,440
CAN ASK THEIR SUPPLIERS IS IT

3495
02:22:34,440 --> 02:22:36,840
THERE AND THEN PROPAGATE ALL OF

3496
02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:40,240
THE WAY BACK TO AN EXTRACTION

3497
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:41,000
POINT, COMMODITY EXTRACTION

3498
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:41,200
POINT.

3499
02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:43,200
AND THEN THE INFORMATION IS THEN

3500
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:46,880
FED FORWARD THROUGH SORT OF AN

3501
02:22:46,880 --> 02:22:48,520
OPPOSITE MECHANISM WHERE

3502
02:22:48,520 --> 02:22:50,280
EVENTUALLY THE INFORMATION IS

3503
02:22:50,280 --> 02:22:54,680
ROLLED UP TO THE POINT THAT THE

3504
02:22:54,680 --> 02:22:58,480
OAM SHOULD KNOW WHETHER OR NOT A

3505
02:22:58,480 --> 02:23:00,960
GIVEN MATERIAL OR CHEMICAL IS IN

3506
02:23:00,960 --> 02:23:01,600
THEIR FINAL PRODUCT.

3507
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:05,080
ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THIS

3508
02:23:05,080 --> 02:23:07,760
PARTICULAR APPROACH IS THAT IT

3509
02:23:07,760 --> 02:23:10,840
WORKS BECAUSE EACH SUPPLIER IS

3510
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:14,080
PUTTING IN THEIR INFORMATION THE

3511
02:23:14,080 --> 02:23:16,480
SUPPLIER PROVIDES A COMPONENT TO

3512
02:23:16,480 --> 02:23:18,880
ONE THE SUPPLIER ONLY HAS TO PUT

3513
02:23:18,880 --> 02:23:20,680
THAT INFORMATION IN THE SYSTEM

3514
02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:23,160
ONCE AND DIFFERENT OEMs CAN BE

3515
02:23:23,160 --> 02:23:25,280
GIVEN ACCESS TO IT SO IT DOES

3516
02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:26,720
START TO SIMPLIFY AND ADDRESS

3517
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:28,440
SOME OF THIS REPORTING BURDEN AS

3518
02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:32,040
WELL.

3519
02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:36,360
IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST AD AD

3520
02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:37,720
VANCED AND DEVELOPED SYSTEM

3521
02:23:37,720 --> 02:23:42,920
AND IT HAS BEEN ADOPTED WITHIN

3522
02:23:42,920 --> 02:23:44,040
THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY SO A LOT

3523
02:23:44,040 --> 02:23:45,440
OF MOMENTUM AND EFFORT TO MAKE

3524
02:23:45,440 --> 02:23:49,240
SURE THIS HAPPENS.

3525
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:53,240
THERE ARE OTHER APPROACHES.

3526
02:23:53,240 --> 02:23:56,280
ONE THAT ACTUALLY DO INCORPORATE

3527
02:23:56,280 --> 02:23:58,480
CLOSER TO FULL MATERIAL DIS

3528
02:23:58,480 --> 02:24:01,040
CLOSURE ON AN AUTOMOBILE

3529
02:24:01,040 --> 02:24:03,680
COULD BE QUITE TRICKY BUT

3530
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:05,160
WAL-MART HAS THEIR SUSTAINABLE

3531
02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:09,200
COMMITMENT THAT IS REALLY FOCUS

3532
02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:10,520
ED ON THEIR FORMULATED GOOD

3533
02:24:10,520 --> 02:24:10,840
S.

3534
02:24:10,840 --> 02:24:13,840
SHIPPED GOODS, LAUNDRY

3535
02:24:13,840 --> 02:24:14,160
DETERGENTS.

3536
02:24:14,160 --> 02:24:15,840
PRODUCTS WHERE THE COMPONENT

3537
02:24:15,840 --> 02:24:17,600
LIST IS SOMEWHAT BOUNDED SO THAT

3538
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:19,480
THE COMPANY DOING THE PRODUCING,

3539
02:24:19,480 --> 02:24:24,240
THE BRAND OWNERS CAN REPORT ON

3540
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:26,480
WHAT'S GOING INTO THEIR PRODUCT

3541
02:24:26,480 --> 02:24:28,840
BUT THE WAY WAL-MART HAS IT SET

3542
02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:30,560
UP IS THERE IS ACTUALLY A

3543
02:24:30,560 --> 02:24:31,640
THIRD PARTY.

3544
02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:33,560
SO THE COMPANY REPORTS THE

3545
02:24:33,560 --> 02:24:35,600
INFORMATION TO WAL-MART OR TO

3546
02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:37,440
THIS THIRD PARTY THAT THEN LOOKS

3547
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:40,760
AT THE DISCLOSURES AND ROLLS A

3548
02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:43,560
REPORT TO WAL-MART ABOUT WHERE

3549
02:24:43,560 --> 02:24:45,000
THEIR POTENTIAL EXPOSURES ARE

3550
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:46,960
AND WHAT LEVEL OF COMMITMENTS TO

3551
02:24:46,960 --> 02:24:49,000
THIS SUSTAINABLE CHEMISTRY ARE

3552
02:24:49,000 --> 02:24:50,520
THEY GETTING FROM THEIR VENDORS.

3553
02:24:50,520 --> 02:24:54,440
AND SO THIS SOLVES ANOTHER

3554
02:24:54,440 --> 02:24:56,560
PROBLEM THAT YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT

3555
02:24:56,560 --> 02:24:59,680
IN DISCLOSURE IS THE

3556
02:24:59,680 --> 02:25:00,840
CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS

3557
02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:01,120
INFORMATION.

3558
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:03,480
WAL-MART NEVER ACTUALLY SEES THE

3559
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:05,720
FORMULATIONS OF THEIR BRAND

3560
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:08,440
SUPPLIERS OF THEIR SUPPLIERS BUT

3561
02:25:08,440 --> 02:25:09,320
THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THE

3562
02:25:09,320 --> 02:25:10,840
INFORMATION THEY NEED THROUGH

3563
02:25:10,840 --> 02:25:14,840
THIS THIRD PARTY MECHANISM.

3564
02:25:14,840 --> 02:25:16,760
IT WORKS WELL BUT DEFINITELY ON

3565
02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:18,520
A LIMITED SIZE.

3566
02:25:18,520 --> 02:25:20,600
A THIRD APPROACH IS COMING OUT

3567
02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:23,840
OF THE ELECTRONICS INDUSTRY FROM

3568
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:26,040
AN IEC STANDARD, SO THIS IS

3569
02:25:26,040 --> 02:25:26,800
ANOTHER RISK-BASEDDED APPROACH

3570
02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:29,160
THAT IS REALLY ABLE TO SUPPORT

3571
02:25:29,160 --> 02:25:31,280
ALL LEVELS OF MATERIAL AND DIS

3572
02:25:31,280 --> 02:25:32,000
CLOSURE DEPENDING ON WHAT A

3573
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:33,560
COMPANY IS LOOKING FOR.

3574
02:25:33,560 --> 02:25:36,240
THERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES LIKE

3575
02:25:36,240 --> 02:25:37,840
SOMEONE LIKE INTELL WHO WILL

3576
02:25:37,840 --> 02:25:39,680
ACTUALLY GO OUT AND ASK FOR A

3577
02:25:39,680 --> 02:25:41,440
FULL MATERIAL DISCLOSURE FROM

3578
02:25:41,440 --> 02:25:44,960
SPECIFIC VENDOR WHOSE ARE SELL

3579
02:25:44,960 --> 02:25:45,600
ING PRODUCT CRITICAL

3580
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:46,800
MATERIALS TO THEM.

3581
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:48,720
SO INTELL WILL DEFINITELY WANT

3582
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:52,560
TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING INTO THEIR

3583
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:53,440
SHIP PRODUCTION LINES SO THEY

3584
02:25:53,440 --> 02:25:56,840
CAN ASK FOR THAT VERY SPECIFIC

3585
02:25:56,840 --> 02:25:58,480
SET OF INFORMATION RATHER THAN

3586
02:25:58,480 --> 02:26:02,400
TRYING TO DESCRIBE THE ENTIRE

3587
02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:03,280
CIRCUIT BOARD THAT WOULD BE

3588
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:04,040
GOING ON TO.

3589
02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:06,480
SO THERE IS WAYS AND APPROACHES

3590
02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:10,520
THAT MORE INFORMATION CAN BE

3591
02:26:10,520 --> 02:26:12,080
RECEIVED.

3592
02:26:12,080 --> 02:26:20,840
AND SO FOR US AT DoD WHY WOULD

3593
02:26:20,840 --> 02:26:22,520
THEY BE INTERESTED.

3594
02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:24,400
SO EVERYTHING THAT FLIES, FLOATS

3595
02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:27,560
OR DRIVES IS DEPENDENT UPON CHEM

3596
02:26:27,560 --> 02:26:29,400
ICALS AT SOME POINT.

3597
02:26:29,400 --> 02:26:34,000
IN ITS MANUFACTURER, IN ITS

3598
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:36,280
MAINTENANCE, IN ITS MANAGEMENT,

3599
02:26:36,280 --> 02:26:37,240
ALL OF THESE THINGS REQUIRE US

3600
02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:40,200
TO UNDERSTAND IF SOMETHING IS

3601
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:42,080
REGULATED THIS COULD IMPACT Do

3602
02:26:42,080 --> 02:26:47,120
D MISSION READINESS AND THIS

3603
02:26:47,120 --> 02:26:50,040
IS NOT A TRIVIAL APPROACH.

3604
02:26:50,040 --> 02:27:02,520
SO THE PROGRAM THAT BASICALLY

3605
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:06,040
EXISTS THE EMERGING CHEMICALS

3606
02:27:06,040 --> 02:27:07,720
RISK PROGRAM EXISTS TO MANAGE

3607
02:27:07,720 --> 02:27:09,120
THIS RISK.

3608
02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:11,040
ONE OF ITS PRIMARY FUNCTIONICIZE

3609
02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:12,160
TO MANAGE THIS RISK.

3610
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:13,440
THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS

3611
02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:14,840
TOO.

3612
02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:20,400
AND WHAT IT ALLOWS IS TO CREATE

3613
02:27:20,400 --> 02:27:21,040
RISK MANAGEMENT OPTIONS SUCH AS

3614
02:27:21,040 --> 02:27:25,280
SAYING WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR

3615
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:26,080
MATERIAL DISCLOSURE AND PRESENT

3616
02:27:26,080 --> 02:27:32,880
IT TO SENIOR LEADERSHIP TO THE E

3617
02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:34,440
MERGING CHEMICAL GOVERNANCE

3618
02:27:34,440 --> 02:27:34,680
COUNCIL.

3619
02:27:34,680 --> 02:27:36,640
SO DoD WE ARE NOW STARTING

3620
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:37,440
THIS CONVERSATION.

3621
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:39,360
IT HAS GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE

3622
02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:40,920
IT IS CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO GET

3623
02:27:40,920 --> 02:27:43,640
A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT CHEMICAL

3624
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:44,360
S AND MATERIALS ARE

3625
02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:47,760
COMING IN TO OUR SYSTEM AND

3626
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:50,320
WHERE THE RISK LIES IF SOMETHING

3627
02:27:50,320 --> 02:27:51,240
GETS BANNED OR REGULATED.

3628
02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:59,240
# IF YOU CAN SAY PFAS HAS HAD A

3629
02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:01,680
SILVER LINING IT HAS CERTAINLY

3630
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:04,680
BEEN AN UNDERSCORING NEED TO

3631
02:28:04,680 --> 02:28:06,440
BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT CHEMICALS

3632
02:28:06,440 --> 02:28:08,320
YOU HAVE NOT JUST DOES IT MEET

3633
02:28:08,320 --> 02:28:09,720
PERFORMANCE SPECKS.

3634
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:14,920
SO CONSIDERING THE SIZE AND THE

3635
02:28:14,920 --> 02:28:16,000
DEPTH OF DoD WHERE DO YOU

3636
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:16,440
START?

3637
02:28:16,440 --> 02:28:20,440
SO WHERE WE'RE STARTING IS

3638
02:28:20,440 --> 02:28:21,040
REALLY TWO DIFFERENT PIECES.

3639
02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:22,840
A POLICY PIECE AND A DATA

3640
02:28:22,840 --> 02:28:33,840
MANAGEMENT PIECE.

3641
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:35,240
WHAT DO WE ALREADY KNOW AND DO

3642
02:28:35,240 --> 02:28:37,480
WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

3643
02:28:37,480 --> 02:28:39,760
WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO KNOW

3644
02:28:39,760 --> 02:28:41,600
ABOUT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GO

3645
02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:43,560
AND IDENTIFY WITHIN OUR SUPPLY

3646
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:46,080
CHAINS AND THEN WHAT POLICIES OR

3647
02:28:46,080 --> 02:28:48,640
GUIDANCE WOULD BE NEEDED TO MAKE

3648
02:28:48,640 --> 02:28:52,640
THAT HAPPEN.

3649
02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:56,120
SO THERE IS VERY MUCH AN IN-

3650
02:28:56,120 --> 02:28:59,720
DEPTH INDUSTRY ENGAGEMENT AND

3651
02:28:59,720 --> 02:29:00,800
POLICY PIECE TO THE QUESTION AS

3652
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:02,600
WELL AS COLLABORATION BOTH WITH

3653
02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:04,640
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE GSA AS WELL

3654
02:29:04,640 --> 02:29:09,600
AS WITH REGULATORS SUCH AS USCPA

3655
02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:12,880
AND OSHA.

3656
02:29:12,880 --> 02:29:14,880
THEN EVEN IF YOU GET THE POLICY

3657
02:29:14,880 --> 02:29:17,080
PIECE SORTED OUT YOU JUST

3658
02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:18,880
BROUGHT IN A BUNCH MORE DATA SO

3659
02:29:18,880 --> 02:29:21,240
NOW YOU NEED TO MANAGE THAT DATA

3660
02:29:21,240 --> 02:29:22,240
IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEWHERE TO

3661
02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:26,280
PUT IT AND NO WAY TO USE IT

3662
02:29:26,280 --> 02:29:27,440
DOESN'T DO YOU ANY GOOD TO

3663
02:29:27,440 --> 02:29:28,520
COLLECT IT.

3664
02:29:28,520 --> 02:29:29,720
SO EXISTING, SO THE OTHER PART

3665
02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:31,640
OF THIS THAT IS CLOSELY RELATED

3666
02:29:31,640 --> 02:29:35,480
TO THE POLICY PIECES IS DATA

3667
02:29:35,480 --> 02:29:35,800
MANAGEMENT.

3668
02:29:35,800 --> 02:29:38,840
SO UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE HAVE

3669
02:29:38,840 --> 02:29:43,680
AND WHAT SPECIFICATIONS WE NEED,

3670
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:45,320
CAN WE MODIFY SYSTEMS THAT

3671
02:29:45,320 --> 02:29:47,440
ALREADY EXIST OR ARE WE GOING TO

3672
02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:48,840
HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH TO

3673
02:29:48,840 --> 02:29:50,440
START SOMEWHERE ELSE.

3674
02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:51,280
NOBODY KNOWS BUT THESE ARE THE

3675
02:29:51,280 --> 02:29:52,760
CONVERSATIONS WE'RE GOING TO

3676
02:29:52,760 --> 02:29:53,760
HAVE AND ALSO RESOURCES AND

3677
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:55,200
BUDGET TO ACTUALLY MAKE THIS

3678
02:29:55,200 --> 02:29:55,760
HAPPEN.

3679
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:59,440
SO THIS IS A LONG-TERM EFFORT

3680
02:29:59,440 --> 02:30:00,440
THAT WE ARE GETTING OFF THE

3681
02:30:00,440 --> 02:30:03,600
GROUND AND WHILE WE MAY NOT BE

3682
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:08,440
ABLE TO PREVENT OR AVOID ANOTHER

3683
02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:12,400
SITUATION LIKE PFAS AT LEAST

3684
02:30:12,400 --> 02:30:15,160
WE'LL BE BETTER PREPARED TO DEAL

3685
02:30:15,160 --> 02:30:18,400
WITH THOSE ISSUES AS THEY COME

3686
02:30:18,400 --> 02:30:22,440
COME UP AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

3687
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:25,040
SO THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY HAS

3688
02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:27,480
BEEN AT THIS FOR A DECADE PLUS

3689
02:30:27,480 --> 02:30:28,640
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT

3690
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:30,840
LEAST IN THAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME.

3691
02:30:30,840 --> 02:30:33,480
THANK YOU AND I AM GLAD TO TAKE

3692
02:30:33,480 --> 02:30:40,800
ANY QUESTIONS.

3693
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:44,680
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

3694
02:30:44,680 --> 02:30:45,640
PRESENTATION, CAROLE.

3695
02:30:45,640 --> 02:30:48,000
AND YES WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM

3696
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:48,520
THE PRESENTATION SO FAR.

3697
02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:49,600
THERE ARE MANY MATERIALS THAT

3698
02:30:49,600 --> 02:30:55,920
ARE USED IN VERY SMALL AMOUNTS,

3699
02:30:55,920 --> 02:30:56,440
MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENTS.

3700
02:30:56,440 --> 02:30:58,680
FOR SUPPLY CHAIN IT SEEMS WE

3701
02:30:58,680 --> 02:31:01,880
NEED TO REVIEW THE PROCESS IN

3702
02:31:01,880 --> 02:31:03,560
THE TRAINEES.

3703
02:31:03,560 --> 02:31:06,040
AND WE REQUIRE FOR MATERIALS

3704
02:31:06,040 --> 02:31:09,960
USED IN THE SMALL AMOUNTS?

3705
02:31:09,960 --> 02:31:12,240
>> CAROLE: SO AS FAR AS SMALL

3706
02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:14,640
AMOUNTS, AS FAR AS WHAT WE ARE

3707
02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:16,000
DOING AT DoD I THINK THAT'S AN

3708
02:31:16,000 --> 02:31:19,520
OPEN QUESTION.

3709
02:31:19,520 --> 02:31:21,960
WHAT LIMIT LEVELS WE WOULD BE

3710
02:31:21,960 --> 02:31:23,640
LOOK AT OR WHAT THRESHOLDS.

3711
02:31:23,640 --> 02:31:26,840
I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY ALSO

3712
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:27,840
DEPEND ON WHETHER OR NOT IT IS

3713
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:29,920
BEING REGULATED AND IF A

3714
02:31:29,920 --> 02:31:33,200
MATERIAL IS REGULATED AND IT

3715
02:31:33,200 --> 02:31:35,760
EFFECTS THE MISSION READINESS

3716
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:38,760
EVEN IN SMALL QUANTITIES I WOULD

3717
02:31:38,760 --> 02:31:40,400
SUSPECT IT IS GOING TO NEED TO

3718
02:31:40,400 --> 02:31:41,920
BE REVIEWED.

3719
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:43,840
NOW, LIKE I SAID, THIS PROCESS

3720
02:31:43,840 --> 02:31:44,760
IS JUST GETTING UNDERWAY.

3721
02:31:44,760 --> 02:31:52,440
IT IS GOING TO BE QUITE A WHILE

3722
02:31:52,440 --> 02:31:54,320
BEFORE WE REALLY LOOK AT THE DE

3723
02:31:54,320 --> 02:31:55,600
TAILS OF WHAT DoD IS GOING

3724
02:31:55,600 --> 02:31:58,280
TO BE ASKING FOR.

3725
02:31:58,280 --> 02:32:01,040
BUT THE IMPORTANT PART IS JUST

3726
02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:02,600
GETTING THIS CONVERSATION GOING.

3727
02:32:02,600 --> 02:32:05,720
>> THANK YOU.

3728
02:32:05,720 --> 02:32:07,200
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

3729
02:32:07,200 --> 02:32:12,200
BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND THE

3730
02:32:12,200 --> 02:32:20,720
ATTENDEES ON THE VIDEOCAST THAT

3731
02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:21,360
CHAT AVAILABILITY UNFORTUNATELY

3732
02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:24,560
IS ONLY FOR US, THE PRESENTERS

3733
02:32:24,560 --> 02:32:26,880
AND THE MONITORS OF THE

3734
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:30,120
QUESTIONS, YOU CAN SUBMIT VIA

3735
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:30,360
E-MAIL.

3736
02:32:30,360 --> 02:32:31,960
SO THERE WAS AN E-MAIL THAT WAS

3737
02:32:31,960 --> 02:32:33,600
SENT TO YOU WHERE YOU CAN SEND

3738
02:32:33,600 --> 02:32:35,440
IN YOUR QUESTIONS SO THAT WOULD

3739
02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:37,000
BE THE PLACE TO DO IT.

3740
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:38,520
SO NEXT I HAVE A QUESTION

3741
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:40,480
ACTUALLY JUST CAME UP.

3742
02:32:40,480 --> 02:32:43,760
SO HOW DO YOU SEE THIS WORKING?

3743
02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:45,400
WOULD YOU BE PUTTING THE

3744
02:32:45,400 --> 02:32:46,880
REQUIREMENT FOR CHEMICAL OP

3745
02:32:46,880 --> 02:32:50,880
ERATIONAL DATA IN MAJOR

3746
02:32:50,880 --> 02:32:52,480
CONTRACTS.

3747
02:32:52,480 --> 02:32:53,880
>> THAT IS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL

3748
02:32:53,880 --> 02:32:56,040
ROUTES THAT WILL BE UNDER

3749
02:32:56,040 --> 02:32:56,480
CONVERSATION.

3750
02:32:56,480 --> 02:32:58,080
NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE YET.

3751
02:32:58,080 --> 02:33:00,000
WE'RE REALLY JUST GETTING ALL OF

3752
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:02,080
THE RELEVANT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.

3753
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:03,200
THERE MAY BE WAYS FOR US TO LEV

3754
02:33:03,200 --> 02:33:07,400
ERAGE WHAT ALREADY EXISTS

3755
02:33:07,400 --> 02:33:08,600
POLICY-WISE OR WHAT'S ALREADY IN

3756
02:33:08,600 --> 02:33:12,080
CONTRACTS.

3757
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:12,720
THERE IS ALREADY CONTRACT

3758
02:33:12,720 --> 02:33:15,240
LANGUAGE, THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE

3759
02:33:15,240 --> 02:33:17,040
EVALUATED AND WE'LL NEED TO

3760
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:18,760
FIGURE THAT OUT BEFORE GOING IN

3761
02:33:18,760 --> 02:33:22,880
AND STARTING TO LOOK AT WHETHER

3762
02:33:22,880 --> 02:33:26,840
WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE OR

3763
02:33:26,840 --> 02:33:28,920
CHANGE SOMETHING BROADER AT THE

3764
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:31,320
FEDERAL LEVEL.

3765
02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:34,440
>> OKAY IN ADDITIONING TO THAT I

3766
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:40,440
GUESS WOULD DoD MANAGE THE

3767
02:33:40,440 --> 02:33:45,360
DATABASE ON CHEMICALS IN ALL

3768
02:33:45,360 --> 02:33:46,040
PRODUCTS/PURCHASES.

3769
02:33:46,040 --> 02:33:47,440
>> I REALIZE THIS IS GETTING TO

3770
02:33:47,440 --> 02:33:50,880
BE A VERY REDIDN'T ANSWER BUT

3771
02:33:50,880 --> 02:33:52,080
THAT IS WE DON'T KNOW YET.

3772
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:56,640
I THINK THAT'S THE IDEAL.

3773
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:57,600
I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND A

3774
02:33:57,600 --> 02:34:02,880
LOT MORE ABOUT THE SYSTEM THAT

3775
02:34:02,880 --> 02:34:04,320
WE ALREADY HAVE BEFORE WE CAN

3776
02:34:04,320 --> 02:34:06,440
JUMP TO WHERE OR HOW THAT ONE

3777
02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:09,240
CENTRALIZED DATABASE WOULD BE

3778
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:10,840
BUT I THINK AT LEAST AS WE'VE

3779
02:34:10,840 --> 02:34:13,600
BEEN SORT OF ENVISIONING HOW

3780
02:34:13,600 --> 02:34:21,360
THIS WILL GO I THINK THAT IS

3781
02:34:21,360 --> 02:34:22,080
CERTAINLY AN INSTATE THAT WOULD

3782
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:24,000
BE WELCOME WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT

3783
02:34:24,000 --> 02:34:24,920
>> ONE MORE QUESTION.

3784
02:34:24,920 --> 02:34:27,160
HOW IS DoD CURRENTLY MANAGING

3785
02:34:27,160 --> 02:34:28,640
THEIR CHEMICAL DATA?

3786
02:34:28,640 --> 02:34:34,320
>> WELL, EACH OF THE SERVICES

3787
02:34:34,320 --> 02:34:37,120
MANAGE THEIR INFORMATION BASE ON

3788
02:34:37,120 --> 02:34:41,280
THEIR PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS.

3789
02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:42,520
THE DEFENSE LOGISTICS AGENCY

3790
02:34:42,520 --> 02:34:45,120
ALSO HAS THEIR OWN PROCESSES AND

3791
02:34:45,120 --> 02:34:47,240
SOTES DATABASES THAT MANAGE

3792
02:34:47,240 --> 02:34:52,240
THINGS LIKE THE SDSs AND DoD

3793
02:34:52,240 --> 02:34:53,200
SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT GETS

3794
02:34:53,200 --> 02:35:01,600
BROUGHT IN ABOUT PRECIOUS METALS

3795
02:35:01,600 --> 02:35:03,360
OR CHEMICALS, THESE TYPES OF

3796
02:35:03,360 --> 02:35:03,600
THINGS.

3797
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:06,560
A LOT OF IT IS REALLY RELATED TO

3798
02:35:06,560 --> 02:35:08,400
HUMAN HEALTH SO THERE IS ALSO

3799
02:35:08,400 --> 02:35:10,320
DATABASES IN OUR HEALTH

3800
02:35:10,320 --> 02:35:12,600
INFORMATION UNDER PERSONAL AND

3801
02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:13,760
READINESS THAT HAS INFORMATION

3802
02:35:13,760 --> 02:35:14,600
AS WELL.

3803
02:35:14,600 --> 02:35:16,520
SO A LOT OF THIS IS BEING

3804
02:35:16,520 --> 02:35:18,840
BROUGHT IN BECAUSE OF THE RISK

3805
02:35:18,840 --> 02:35:21,080
TO WORKERS IN THE WORKPLACE.

3806
02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:24,120
IT IS KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE

3807
02:35:24,120 --> 02:35:27,040
RIGHT NOW IS THE SHORT ANSWER.

3808
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:29,040
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CAROLE AND

3809
02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:33,480
THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING FOR

3810
02:35:33,480 --> 02:35:35,840
THIS YEAR'S SYMPOSIUM.

3811
02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:37,080
REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR

3812
02:35:37,080 --> 02:35:37,440
PRESENTATION.

3813
02:35:37,440 --> 02:35:38,600
IT WAS GREAT.

3814
02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:40,880
MICHAEL BRUCKNER YOU HAVE

3815
02:35:40,880 --> 02:35:43,160
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME AFTER

3816
02:35:43,160 --> 02:35:44,040
YOUR PRESENTATION IF YOU DON'T

3817
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:50,960
MIND ANSWERING THAT SO IT CAN BE

3818
02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:51,240
HERE.

3819
02:35:51,240 --> 02:35:52,040
>> MICHAEL: SURE.

3820
02:35:52,040 --> 02:35:54,880
>> DID YOU SEE IT?

3821
02:35:54,880 --> 02:35:55,720
>> MICHAEL: I THINK SO.

3822
02:35:55,720 --> 02:36:00,480
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT

3823
02:36:00,480 --> 02:36:02,880
THIS TOOL WILL BE REQUIRED?

3824
02:36:02,880 --> 02:36:05,840
>> NO, IT IS ABOUT WE USE SDS

3825
02:36:05,840 --> 02:36:08,760
FOR CHEMICALS FOR POTENTIAL USE,

3826
02:36:08,760 --> 02:36:09,400
DOES THIS MEAN WE NEED TO USE

3827
02:36:09,400 --> 02:36:14,840
THE TOOLS.

3828
02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:16,280
>> IC MOOAL: IT IS AN EASY

3829
02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:16,920
ANSWER.

3830
02:36:16,920 --> 02:36:18,600
THE ANSWER IS NO YOU DO NOT NEED

3831
02:36:18,600 --> 02:36:19,600
TO USE THE TOOL.

3832
02:36:19,600 --> 02:36:22,400
THE INTENT OF THE SUSTAINABLE

3833
02:36:22,400 --> 02:36:24,000
MATERIALS ALTERNATIVES TOOL IS

3834
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:25,400
TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL RE

3835
02:36:25,400 --> 02:36:30,320
SOURCE WITH INFORMATION ABOUT

3836
02:36:30,320 --> 02:36:32,440
INITIATIVES FROM ACROSS THE

3837
02:36:32,440 --> 02:36:34,480
DEPARTMENT FOR A VARIETY OF USER

3838
02:36:34,480 --> 02:36:38,240
S SO THIS IS AN OPTIONAL RE

3839
02:36:38,240 --> 02:36:39,760
SOURCE THAT IS NOT REQUIRED.

3840
02:36:39,760 --> 02:36:45,280
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH MICHAELISM

3841
02:36:45,280 --> 02:36:45,640
MICHAEL.

3842
02:36:45,640 --> 02:36:47,600
WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A

3843
02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:50,440
13 MINUTE BREAK AND JAMES WILL

3844
02:36:50,440 --> 02:36:52,040
BE BACK AS YOUR MODERATOR FOR

3845
02:36:52,040 --> 02:36:53,440
THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON.

3846
02:36:53,440 --> 02:36:55,080
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ATTENDING

3847
02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:57,160
>> WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE

3848
02:36:57,160 --> 02:37:00,280
SUSAN BURTON JOINING US FOR A

3849
02:37:00,280 --> 02:37:02,880
PRESENTATION ON EPAs PFAS

3850
02:37:02,880 --> 02:37:04,480
EFFORT.

3851
02:37:04,480 --> 02:37:08,360
DR. BURTON IS THE PFAS LEAD FOR

3852
02:37:08,360 --> 02:37:11,840
EPAs LEAD WHERE SHE

3853
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:13,600
COORDINATES PFAS AND ON THE

3854
02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:14,720
COUNCIL ON PFAS WHICH PUT

3855
02:37:14,720 --> 02:37:16,720
TOGETHER THE PFAS ROADMAP.

3856
02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:19,720
IN ADDITION TO HER PFAS ROADMAP

3857
02:37:19,720 --> 02:37:20,560
RESPONSIBILITIES DR. BURTSON THE

3858
02:37:20,560 --> 02:37:24,680
SCIENTIFIC SUPPORT ADVISOR ON

3859
02:37:24,680 --> 02:37:26,600
POLICY AND ENGAGEMENT WHERE SHE

3860
02:37:26,600 --> 02:37:27,960
PROVIDES LEADERSHIP FOR THE

3861
02:37:27,960 --> 02:37:30,000
GROUP ON RESEARCH, PLANNING AND

3862
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:34,840
SCIENTIFIC SUPPORT ISSUES IN

3863
02:37:34,840 --> 02:37:37,960
THIS POSITION DR. BURDEN SERVED

3864
02:37:37,960 --> 02:37:40,920
WITHIN THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE

3865
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:41,520
ADVISORY POLICY ENGAGEMENT AND

3866
02:37:41,520 --> 02:37:43,160
WORK WOULD A TEAM OF SCIENTISTS

3867
02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:45,480
TO WORK WITH ORD SCIENTIFIC

3868
02:37:45,480 --> 02:37:47,080
RESEARCH AND EXPERTISE INTO THE

3869
02:37:47,080 --> 02:37:49,720
EPA REGULATIONS, GUIDANCE AND

3870
02:37:49,720 --> 02:37:50,720
POLICIES.

3871
02:37:50,720 --> 02:37:54,040
DR. BURDEN IS ALSO A MAJOR

3872
02:37:54,040 --> 02:37:56,720
RESEARCHER ON OIL AND GAS RE

3873
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:56,960
SOURCES.

3874
02:37:56,960 --> 02:37:59,000
DR. BURDEN STARTED HER CAREER AT

3875
02:37:59,000 --> 02:38:02,680
EPA IN 2010 AS A PRESIDENTIAL

3876
02:38:02,680 --> 02:38:08,160
MANAGEMENT FELLOW, PMF RECEIVING

3877
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:14,280
A PH.D. FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF

3878
02:38:14,280 --> 02:38:15,120
WISCONSIN IN MADISON.

3879
02:38:15,120 --> 02:38:17,240
SUSAN TAKE IT AWAY.

3880
02:38:17,240 --> 02:38:18,120
>> GREAT.

3881
02:38:18,120 --> 02:38:18,800
THANK YOU SO MUCH

3882
02:38:18,800 --> 02:38:20,040
FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

3883
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:24,280
MY NAME IS SUSAN BURDEN WITH EPA

3884
02:38:24,280 --> 02:38:25,040
s OFFICE OF RESEARCH AND

3885
02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:26,280
DEVELOPMENT AND I'M HAPPY TO BE

3886
02:38:26,280 --> 02:38:28,880
HERE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF

3887
02:38:28,880 --> 02:38:32,040
THE EPA'S PFAS STRATEGIC ROADMAP

3888
02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:33,840
AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE ACTIONS

3889
02:38:33,840 --> 02:38:36,720
WE HAVE UNDERWAY ACROSS THE

3890
02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:47,000
AGENCY TO ADDRESS PFAS.

3891
02:38:47,000 --> 02:38:48,000
I'LL DIVE INTO THE CONTENT OF

3892
02:38:48,000 --> 02:38:49,640
THE STRATEGIC ROADMAP.

3893
02:38:49,640 --> 02:38:52,040
THE FIRST PART OF THAT CONTENT

3894
02:38:52,040 --> 02:38:54,520
IS EPA'S APPROACH TO TACKLING

3895
02:38:54,520 --> 02:38:57,280
PFAS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE

3896
02:38:57,280 --> 02:39:00,040
PRINCIPAL PRINCIPLES AND GOAL AS

3897
02:39:00,040 --> 02:39:01,680
WE MOVE FORWARD TO ADDRESS PFAS

3898
02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:02,960
AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE

3899
02:39:02,960 --> 02:39:04,320
ACTIONS THAT ARE UNDERWAY ACROSS

3900
02:39:04,320 --> 02:39:05,200
THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE

3901
02:39:05,200 --> 02:39:07,680
AGENCY.

3902
02:39:07,680 --> 02:39:09,880
AND THEN I'LL WRAP UP WITH NEXT

3903
02:39:09,880 --> 02:39:11,280
STEP ON ENGAGEMENT AND

3904
02:39:11,280 --> 02:39:12,040
IMPLEMENTATION AND WE SHOULD

3905
02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:13,440
HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR

3906
02:39:13,440 --> 02:39:18,520
QUESTIONS AT THE END.

3907
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:22,040
THE EPA COUNCIL OF PFAS WAS

3908
02:39:22,040 --> 02:39:28,600
ESTABLISH IN APRIL OF 2021 AT

3909
02:39:28,600 --> 02:39:32,200
THE DIRECTION OF MICHAEL REGGEN

3910
02:39:32,200 --> 02:39:36,480
TO DEVELOP A BOLD, STRATEGIC,

3911
02:39:36,480 --> 02:39:37,480
WHOLE-OF-EPA APPROACH FROM THE

3912
02:39:37,480 --> 02:39:39,000
IMPACTS OF PFAS.

3913
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:40,600
THE COUNCIL IS MADE UP OF SENIOR

3914
02:39:40,600 --> 02:39:44,560
TECHNICAL AND POLICY FOLKS FROM

3915
02:39:44,560 --> 02:39:46,320
ACROSS THE AGENCY INCLUDING EPA

3916
02:39:46,320 --> 02:39:48,800
PROGRAM OFFICES AS WELL AS OUR

3917
02:39:48,800 --> 02:39:49,440
REGIONAL OFFICES: IT IS CHAIRED

3918
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:52,920
BY THE ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR

3919
02:39:52,920 --> 02:39:58,520
FOR WATER, MRS. FOX AND REGIONAL

3920
02:39:58,520 --> 02:39:58,960
ADMINISTRATOR.

3921
02:39:58,960 --> 02:40:01,920
I AM ONE OF TWO REPRESENTATIVES

3922
02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:03,440
ON THE COUNCIL SO I'VE BEEN

3923
02:40:03,440 --> 02:40:04,600
INVOLVED IN BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT

3924
02:40:04,600 --> 02:40:07,480
OF THE STRATEGIC ROADMAP AS WELL

3925
02:40:07,480 --> 02:40:08,960
AS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT

3926
02:40:08,960 --> 02:40:12,120
WORK TO DATE.

3927
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:12,880
ONE OF THE THINGS THE COUNCIL

3928
02:40:12,880 --> 02:40:14,800
DID WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TO

3929
02:40:14,800 --> 02:40:18,360
THINK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC ROAD

3930
02:40:18,360 --> 02:40:20,360
MAP WAS TO THINK ABOUT THE

3931
02:40:20,360 --> 02:40:21,680
PRINCIPLES AND GOALS WE HAVE

3932
02:40:21,680 --> 02:40:23,320
WITHIN EPA FOR ADDRESSING PFAS.

3933
02:40:23,320 --> 02:40:25,680
SO I WANT TO START WITH THE

3934
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:26,520
PRINCIPLES FIRST.

3935
02:40:26,520 --> 02:40:27,640
WE REALLY TOOK THIS FROM THE

3936
02:40:27,640 --> 02:40:35,280
POSITION OF TRYING TO THINK

3937
02:40:35,280 --> 02:40:38,320
ABOUT PFAS MORE HOLISTICLY AND

3938
02:40:38,320 --> 02:40:41,160
THE CHALLENGES PRESENTED TO THE

3939
02:40:41,160 --> 02:40:41,400
AGENCY.

3940
02:40:41,400 --> 02:40:49,280
WE HAVE FIVE PRINCIPLES FOR

3941
02:40:49,280 --> 02:40:51,280
ADDRESSING PFAS.

3942
02:40:51,280 --> 02:40:52,480
THE POINT OF MANUFACTURER

3943
02:40:52,480 --> 02:40:54,480
THROUGH THE POINT OF USE AND

3944
02:40:54,480 --> 02:40:57,640
POTENTIAL RELEASES TO THE

3945
02:40:57,640 --> 02:40:58,440
ENVIRONMENT ALL OF THE WAY

3946
02:40:58,440 --> 02:41:01,040
THROUGH THE DESTRUCTION OF PFAS

3947
02:41:01,040 --> 02:41:03,280
AND PFAS CONTAINING MATERIALS.

3948
02:41:03,280 --> 02:41:05,520
THE SECOND PRINCIPLE IS TO

3949
02:41:05,520 --> 02:41:11,280
REALLY GET-UPSTREAM OF THE

3950
02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:11,720
PROBLEM.

3951
02:41:11,720 --> 02:41:14,840
PFAS IS A PERSISTENT CHEMICAL

3952
02:41:14,840 --> 02:41:16,320
AND ALSO A MAN-MADE CHEMICAL.

3953
02:41:16,320 --> 02:41:20,880
SO FROM THOSE PERSPECTIVES IT IS

3954
02:41:20,880 --> 02:41:21,480
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO

3955
02:41:21,480 --> 02:41:23,440
WHAT WE CAN TO FOCUS OUR

3956
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:24,680
ATTENTION ON PREVENTING PFAS

3957
02:41:24,680 --> 02:41:26,760
FROM ENTERING THE ENVIRONMENT IN

3958
02:41:26,760 --> 02:41:27,880
THE FIRST PLACE.

3959
02:41:27,880 --> 02:41:31,760
THE THIRD PRINCIPLE IS TO HOLD

3960
02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:33,240
POLLUTERS ACCOUNTABLE SO WE WANT

3961
02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:34,880
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HOLDING

3962
02:41:34,880 --> 02:41:39,040
POLLUTERS AND OTHER RESPONSIBLE

3963
02:41:39,040 --> 02:41:40,040
PARTIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR ACTIONS

3964
02:41:40,040 --> 02:41:44,520
AND FOR PFAS REMEDIATION EFFORT.

3965
02:41:44,520 --> 02:41:46,480
THE FOURTH PRINCIPLE IS ENSURING

3966
02:41:46,480 --> 02:41:48,680
SCIENCE-BASED DECISION MAKING.

3967
02:41:48,680 --> 02:41:50,880
EPA IS REALLY COMMITTED TO

3968
02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:52,280
MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE BASED

3969
02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:52,960
ON THE BEST SCIENTIFIC

3970
02:41:52,960 --> 02:41:53,680
INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE

3971
02:41:53,680 --> 02:41:55,040
AVAILABLE TO US.

3972
02:41:55,040 --> 02:41:57,120
SO WE REALLY WANT TO INVEST IN

3973
02:41:57,120 --> 02:41:58,920
RESEARCH TO FILL THE GAPS THAT

3974
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:01,280
WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT

3975
02:42:01,280 --> 02:42:04,920
UNDERSTANDING OF PFAS SO THAT WE

3976
02:42:04,920 --> 02:42:06,040
CAN HAVE THAT SOLID SCIENTIFIC

3977
02:42:06,040 --> 02:42:07,400
FOUNDATION FOR INFORMING THE

3978
02:42:07,400 --> 02:42:08,840
DECISIONS THAT THE AGENCY HAS TO

3979
02:42:08,840 --> 02:42:12,480
MAKE.

3980
02:42:12,480 --> 02:42:16,400
AND THEN OUR FIFTH PRINCIPLE IS

3981
02:42:16,400 --> 02:42:18,040
PRIORITIZING THE PROTECTION OF

3982
02:42:18,040 --> 02:42:18,800
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES SO

3983
02:42:18,800 --> 02:42:21,960
WHEN EPA IS TAKING ACTION TO

3984
02:42:21,960 --> 02:42:26,680
ADDRESS PFAS WE'RE DOING SO TO

3985
02:42:26,680 --> 02:42:27,400
ENSURE DISADVANTAGES COMMUNITIES

3986
02:42:27,400 --> 02:42:29,040
HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO

3987
02:42:29,040 --> 02:42:29,360
SOLUTIONS.

3988
02:42:29,360 --> 02:42:31,880
SO THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE KIND

3989
02:42:31,880 --> 02:42:37,200
OF OVERALL I THINK HELP TO

3990
02:42:37,200 --> 02:42:40,720
DEMONSTRATE HOW WE HAVE TO

3991
02:42:40,720 --> 02:42:41,360
ADDRESS PFAS.

3992
02:42:41,360 --> 02:42:43,840
SO WE HAVE THREE GOALS THE THREE

3993
02:42:43,840 --> 02:42:47,000
Rs, RESEARCH, RESTRICT AND RE

3994
02:42:47,000 --> 02:42:47,240
MEDIATE.

3995
02:42:47,240 --> 02:42:49,040
SO RESEARCH OF COURSE IS ABOUT

3996
02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:49,840
INVESTING IN RESEARCH,

3997
02:42:49,840 --> 02:42:52,000
DEVELOPMENT AND INNOVATION TO IN

3998
02:42:52,000 --> 02:42:54,880
CREASE OUR UNDERSTANDING IN

3999
02:42:54,880 --> 02:42:56,280
PFAS EXPOSURES AND EFFECTS BOTH

4000
02:42:56,280 --> 02:42:58,200
HUMAN HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL

4001
02:42:58,200 --> 02:42:58,440
EFFECTS.

4002
02:42:58,440 --> 02:43:00,960
AND THEN ALSO UNDERSTANDING OUR

4003
02:43:00,960 --> 02:43:02,520
INCREASING OUR UNDERSTANDING OF

4004
02:43:02,520 --> 02:43:04,200
HOW WE CAN ADDRESS PFAS AND THE

4005
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:05,680
ENVIRONMENT OR PREVENT PFAS FROM

4006
02:43:05,680 --> 02:43:09,360
ENTERING THE ENVIRONMENT.

4007
02:43:09,360 --> 02:43:13,320
RESTRICTING IS ABOUT PURSUING A

4008
02:43:13,320 --> 02:43:15,040
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO

4009
02:43:15,040 --> 02:43:16,240
PROACTIVELY PREVENT PFAS FROM

4010
02:43:16,240 --> 02:43:19,960
ENTERING AIR, LAND AND WATER AT

4011
02:43:19,960 --> 02:43:21,000
LEVELS THAT CAN ADVERSELY EFFECT

4012
02:43:21,000 --> 02:43:22,160
HUMAN HEALTH IN THE ENVIRONMENT

4013
02:43:22,160 --> 02:43:24,280
AND THEN THAT FINAL R IS RE

4014
02:43:24,280 --> 02:43:25,240
MEDIATE AND THAT AGAIN IS

4015
02:43:25,240 --> 02:43:29,400
ABOUT BROADENNING AND ACCEL

4016
02:43:29,400 --> 02:43:32,800
ERATING CLEANUP OF EXISTING

4017
02:43:32,800 --> 02:43:36,920
PFAS CONTAMINATION.

4018
02:43:36,920 --> 02:43:38,760
SO WITH THAT BACKDROP IN MIND I

4019
02:43:38,760 --> 02:43:42,120
WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PIVOT TO

4020
02:43:42,120 --> 02:43:43,400
TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC ACTIONS

4021
02:43:43,400 --> 02:43:45,360
THAT ARE UNDERWAY ACROSS EPA.

4022
02:43:45,360 --> 02:43:48,400
SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A

4023
02:43:48,400 --> 02:43:49,080
SERIES OF SLIDES THAT'S GOING TO

4024
02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:51,480
HAVE A LOT OF ACTIONS ON THEM

4025
02:43:51,480 --> 02:43:52,800
AND I WANT TO JUST KIND OF TAKE

4026
02:43:52,800 --> 02:43:55,040
A MINUTE AND POINT OUT THAT ALL

4027
02:43:55,040 --> 02:43:57,280
OF THIS INFORMATION IS IN THE

4028
02:43:57,280 --> 02:43:59,040
STRATEGIC ROADMAP.

4029
02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:00,760
I'M NOT GOING TO TALK IN DEPTH

4030
02:44:00,760 --> 02:44:02,760
ABOUT EACH OF THE ACTIONS I'M

4031
02:44:02,760 --> 02:44:04,760
ONLY GOING TO PICK A COUPLE ON

4032
02:44:04,760 --> 02:44:06,040
EACH SLIDE TO TALK IN A LITTLE

4033
02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:15,800
MORE DETAIL ABOUT OUR TOUR OF

4034
02:44:15,800 --> 02:44:20,280
THE AGENCY'S OFFICE IS GOING TO

4035
02:44:20,280 --> 02:44:21,920
START WITH OFFICE OF CHEMICAL

4036
02:44:21,920 --> 02:44:23,320
SAFETY AND POLLUTION AND

4037
02:44:23,320 --> 02:44:23,920
PREVENTION.

4038
02:44:23,920 --> 02:44:28,200
MOST OF THIC AS ARE UNDER THE

4039
02:44:28,200 --> 02:44:30,760
TOXIC SUBSTANCE OR TSCA.

4040
02:44:30,760 --> 02:44:31,920
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FIRST

4041
02:44:31,920 --> 02:44:34,880
AND LAST BULLETS ON THIS SLIDE.

4042
02:44:34,880 --> 02:44:37,760
THE FIRST IS THE NATIONAL PFAS

4043
02:44:37,760 --> 02:44:38,760
TESTING STRATEGY.

4044
02:44:38,760 --> 02:44:40,440
SO THIS STRATEGY WAS RELEASED IN

4045
02:44:40,440 --> 02:44:42,680
OCTOBER WITH THE STRATEGIC ROAD

4046
02:44:42,680 --> 02:44:44,160
MAP AND IT IS REALLY AN

4047
02:44:44,160 --> 02:44:46,560
APPROACH THAT EPA'S OFFICE OF

4048
02:44:46,560 --> 02:44:47,920
CHEMICAL SAFETY AND POLLUTION

4049
02:44:47,920 --> 02:44:50,960
PREVENTION IS USING TO HELP

4050
02:44:50,960 --> 02:44:55,360
PRIORITIZE PFAS FOR TOXICITY

4051
02:44:55,360 --> 02:44:57,960
TESTING THAT THEY CAN COMPEL

4052
02:44:57,960 --> 02:45:02,000
MANUFACTURERS TO DO UNDER TSCA.

4053
02:45:02,000 --> 02:45:03,160
AND SO THE INTERESTING THING

4054
02:45:03,160 --> 02:45:05,000
ABOUT THIS STRATEGY IS IT DOES A

4055
02:45:05,000 --> 02:45:05,680
COUPLE THINGS.

4056
02:45:05,680 --> 02:45:07,320
IF YOU GO TO THE LINK THAT YOU

4057
02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:08,720
SEE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF

4058
02:45:08,720 --> 02:45:10,400
YOU YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE

4059
02:45:10,400 --> 02:45:12,280
STRATEGY BUT IT KIND OF WALKS

4060
02:45:12,280 --> 02:45:14,320
YOU THROUGH A COUPLE DIFFERENT

4061
02:45:14,320 --> 02:45:14,880
THINGS.

4062
02:45:14,880 --> 02:45:18,120
SO ON THE FIRST PART OF IT TALKS

4063
02:45:18,120 --> 02:45:19,320
ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PFAS

4064
02:45:19,320 --> 02:45:20,840
CATEGORIES SO AS PART OF THIS

4065
02:45:20,840 --> 02:45:24,400
STRATEGY WHAT EPA DID WAS TAKE

4066
02:45:24,400 --> 02:45:26,880
THE LARGER CLASS OF PFAS, WHICH

4067
02:45:26,880 --> 02:45:30,480
CAN HAVE THOUSANDS OF CHEMICAL

4068
02:45:30,480 --> 02:45:31,400
STRUCTURES IN IT AND BROKE IT

4069
02:45:31,400 --> 02:45:34,920
DOWN INTO SMALLER GROUPS OF PFAS

4070
02:45:34,920 --> 02:45:37,400
ORE PFAS CATEGORIES WHERE YOU

4071
02:45:37,400 --> 02:45:39,680
HAVE SIMILAR CHEM CHEMICAL

4072
02:45:39,680 --> 02:45:41,040
STRUCTURES WITHIN THOSE

4073
02:45:41,040 --> 02:45:42,560
CATEGORIES.

4074
02:45:42,560 --> 02:45:45,720
AND THEN IN A SEPARATE EFFORT WE

4075
02:45:45,720 --> 02:45:47,560
HAVE BEEN AND YOU'VE HEARD THIS

4076
02:45:47,560 --> 02:45:49,440
I THINK EARLIER HERE TODAY WE

4077
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:53,040
HAVE HAD EFFORTS UNDERWAY TO

4078
02:45:53,040 --> 02:45:54,120
CURATE EXISTING INFORMATION ON

4079
02:45:54,120 --> 02:45:54,400
PFAS.

4080
02:45:54,400 --> 02:45:57,640
SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DATA CURE

4081
02:45:57,640 --> 02:46:00,720
ATION EFFORTS ON PFAS

4082
02:46:00,720 --> 02:46:01,560
TOXICITY AND DATA SO WE'VE BEEN

4083
02:46:01,560 --> 02:46:04,000
ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DATA THAT

4084
02:46:04,000 --> 02:46:05,600
WE'VE CURATED, COMPARE IT TO THE

4085
02:46:05,600 --> 02:46:07,840
PFAS CATEGORIES THAT HAVE BEEN

4086
02:46:07,840 --> 02:46:09,480
CREATED AND WE CAN LOOK AND SEE

4087
02:46:09,480 --> 02:46:13,640
WHERE WE HAVE ACTUAL TOXICITY

4088
02:46:13,640 --> 02:46:15,040
DATA FOR PFAS.

4089
02:46:15,040 --> 02:46:16,720
SO WHICH CATEGORIES DO WE HAVE

4090
02:46:16,720 --> 02:46:18,760
MORE TOXICITY DATA IN, VERSUS

4091
02:46:18,760 --> 02:46:25,400
WHICH ONES DO WE HAVE LESS AND

4092
02:46:25,400 --> 02:46:27,120
THAT WAY WE CAN TARGET THOSE

4093
02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:28,760
PFAS CATEGORIES FOR WHICH WE

4094
02:46:28,760 --> 02:46:33,320
HAVE LESS DATA AND WE CAN USE

4095
02:46:33,320 --> 02:46:34,800
OUR TSCA AUTHORITIES TO HELP GEN

4096
02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:35,760
ERATE THAT DATA.

4097
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:36,800
THE OTHER INTERESTING THING

4098
02:46:36,800 --> 02:46:40,280
ABOUT THE TESTING STRATEGY IS IT

4099
02:46:40,280 --> 02:46:41,600
DOES OUTLINE A TIERED TESTING

4100
02:46:41,600 --> 02:46:46,040
APPROACH SO THAT YOU CAN DO

4101
02:46:46,040 --> 02:46:46,880
CERTAIN TESTING BEFORE YOU WOULD

4102
02:46:46,880 --> 02:46:48,720
DO OTHER TESTING.

4103
02:46:48,720 --> 02:46:50,200
SO YOU CAN USE THE RESULTS OF

4104
02:46:50,200 --> 02:46:53,160
THAT INITIAL TESTING TO HELP

4105
02:46:53,160 --> 02:46:55,920
DETERMINE WHAT ADDITIONAL

4106
02:46:55,920 --> 02:46:57,280
TOXICITY TESTING MIGHT BE THE

4107
02:46:57,280 --> 02:47:00,760
MOST APPROPRIATE TO HAVE HAPPEN.

4108
02:47:00,760 --> 02:47:02,320
SO THE FINAL BULLET ON THIS

4109
02:47:02,320 --> 02:47:08,960
SLIDE IS THE SECOND ACTION,

4110
02:47:08,960 --> 02:47:12,160
FINALIZING A NEW REPORTING RULE

4111
02:47:12,160 --> 02:47:13,080
UNDER TSCA SECTION EIGHT.

4112
02:47:13,080 --> 02:47:18,560
BACK IN JUNE OF 2021EPA PROPOSED

4113
02:47:18,560 --> 02:47:19,240
A RULE THAT WOULD REQUIRE REPORT

4114
02:47:19,240 --> 02:47:21,040
ING ON PFAS USES,

4115
02:47:21,040 --> 02:47:24,560
PRODUCTION VOLUMES, DISPOSAL

4116
02:47:24,560 --> 02:47:27,080
APPROACHES, EXPOSURES AND

4117
02:47:27,080 --> 02:47:28,040
HAZARDS FOR PFASES THAT HAVE

4118
02:47:28,040 --> 02:47:32,760
BEEN MANUFACTURERRED IN ANY YEAR

4119
02:47:32,760 --> 02:47:34,720
SINCE JANUARY 1 OF 2011.

4120
02:47:34,720 --> 02:47:35,840
THAT PROPOSAL WENT OUT FOR

4121
02:47:35,840 --> 02:47:37,040
PUBLIC COMMENT.

4122
02:47:37,040 --> 02:47:39,160
THE UBPLIC COMMENT PERIOD HAS

4123
02:47:39,160 --> 02:47:40,680
CLOSED.

4124
02:47:40,680 --> 02:47:43,120
EPA IS IN THE PROCESS OF CON

4125
02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:44,760
VENING A REVIEW PANEL, WHICH

4126
02:47:44,760 --> 02:47:46,800
WILL ALSO HELP US DEVELOP WHAT

4127
02:47:46,800 --> 02:47:49,040
THAT FINAL RULE LOOBS LIKE SO

4128
02:47:49,040 --> 02:47:51,480
WE'LL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BOTH THE

4129
02:47:51,480 --> 02:47:52,880
REVIEW PANEL COMMENTS AS WELL AS

4130
02:47:52,880 --> 02:47:54,360
THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WE

4131
02:47:54,360 --> 02:47:56,200
CONTINUE TO FINALIZE THAT

4132
02:47:56,200 --> 02:48:04,320
SECTION EIGHT REPORTING RULE.

4133
02:48:04,320 --> 02:48:05,520
THE OFFICE OF WATER OF COURSE

4134
02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:09,640
HAS A LOT OF ACTIONS UNDERWAY.

4135
02:48:09,640 --> 02:48:11,480
THERE IS ACTIVITY BOTH RELATED

4136
02:48:11,480 --> 02:48:13,800
TO THE SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT

4137
02:48:13,800 --> 02:48:15,240
AS WELL AS THE CLEAN WATER ACT

4138
02:48:15,240 --> 02:48:16,920
SO I'LL TALK ABOUT A COUPLE

4139
02:48:16,920 --> 02:48:22,160
ACTIONS FOR EACH OF THOSE

4140
02:48:22,160 --> 02:48:22,800
DIFFERENT STATUTE.

4141
02:48:22,800 --> 02:48:23,880
THE FIRST ACTION IS THE FIRST ON

4142
02:48:23,880 --> 02:48:27,960
THE SCREEN THAT IS TO UNDER TAKE

4143
02:48:27,960 --> 02:48:28,600
NATIONWIDE MONITORING FOR DRINK

4144
02:48:28,600 --> 02:48:29,240
ING WATER.

4145
02:48:29,240 --> 02:48:32,040
SO AT THE END OF LAST CALENDAR

4146
02:48:32,040 --> 02:48:37,320
YEAR EPA ISSUED THE FINAL UNREG

4147
02:48:37,320 --> 02:48:39,640
ULATED CON CONTAMINANT UNIT

4148
02:48:39,640 --> 02:48:41,800
NUMBER FIVE AND THAT RULES

4149
02:48:41,800 --> 02:48:43,360
REQUIRES MONITORING FOR 29

4150
02:48:43,360 --> 02:48:46,720
DIFFERENT PFASES IN PUBLIC WATER

4151
02:48:46,720 --> 02:48:47,000
SYSTEMS.

4152
02:48:47,000 --> 02:48:49,040
EPA IS USING THIS CALENDAR YEAR

4153
02:48:49,040 --> 02:48:52,280
TO WORK WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO

4154
02:48:52,280 --> 02:48:55,480
GET EVERYONE PREPARED TO DO THE

4155
02:48:55,480 --> 02:48:58,880
MONITORING SCHEDULED TO BEGIN IN

4156
02:48:58,880 --> 02:49:11,560
2023, SO NEXT YEAR.  THE SECOND

4157
02:49:11,560 --> 02:49:14,080
IS DRINKING WATER REGULATION.

4158
02:49:14,080 --> 02:49:16,800
WE MADE A POSITIVE DETERMINATION

4159
02:49:16,800 --> 02:49:18,880
UNDER THE SAFE DRINKING WATER

4160
02:49:18,880 --> 02:49:23,840
ACT TO REGULATE PFAS, PROBABLY A

4161
02:49:23,840 --> 02:49:25,800
YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO NOW AND

4162
02:49:25,800 --> 02:49:28,880
THAT HAS INITIATED THE PROCESS

4163
02:49:28,880 --> 02:49:29,480
TO DEVELOP THE PRIMARY DRINKING

4164
02:49:29,480 --> 02:49:31,120
WATER REGULATION FOR THOSE TWO

4165
02:49:31,120 --> 02:49:38,560
PFASES.

4166
02:49:38,560 --> 02:49:41,000
EPA HAS FOUR SCIENTIFIC

4167
02:49:41,000 --> 02:49:44,240
SUPPORT DOCUMENTS UNDER REVIEW

4168
02:49:44,240 --> 02:49:47,120
WITH OUR SCIENCE ADVISORY REVIEW

4169
02:49:47,120 --> 02:49:53,040
TWO ARE HEALTH DOCUMENTS FOR PFO

4170
02:49:53,040 --> 02:49:56,320
A AND PFOS.

4171
02:49:56,320 --> 02:49:59,200
SO WE'LL RECEIVE PEER REVIEW

4172
02:49:59,200 --> 02:50:00,200
COMMENTS FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD

4173
02:50:00,200 --> 02:50:03,560
USED TO REVISE THOSE SCIENTIFIC

4174
02:50:03,560 --> 02:50:04,040
SUPPORT DOCUMENTS.

4175
02:50:04,040 --> 02:50:06,680
WE ARE PLANNING TO ISSUE A PRO

4176
02:50:06,680 --> 02:50:08,640
POSED RULE BY THE END OF THIS

4177
02:50:08,640 --> 02:50:13,960
CALENDAR YEAR FOR PFOA AND PFOS.

4178
02:50:13,960 --> 02:50:15,480
I'M GOING TO SWITCH TO TALK

4179
02:50:15,480 --> 02:50:16,440
ABOUT THE ACTIVITY UNDER THE

4180
02:50:16,440 --> 02:50:20,440
CLEAN WATER ACT.

4181
02:50:20,440 --> 02:50:23,000
SO THE FIRST ONE THAT I WANT TO

4182
02:50:23,000 --> 02:50:29,000
HIGHLIGHT IS I THINK THE ROUGHLY

4183
02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:32,640
FIFTH BULLET DOWN ON RESTRICTING

4184
02:50:32,640 --> 02:50:33,920
PFAS DISCHARGES FROM INDUSTRIAL

4185
02:50:33,920 --> 02:50:34,680
SOURCES.

4186
02:50:34,680 --> 02:50:37,400
SO REMEMBER EPA IS WORKING TO

4187
02:50:37,400 --> 02:50:39,120
TRY AND REDUCE PFAS FROM GETTING

4188
02:50:39,120 --> 02:50:40,600
IF TO THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE

4189
02:50:40,600 --> 02:50:41,040
FIRST PLACE.

4190
02:50:41,040 --> 02:50:42,520
THIS IS ONE OF THE ACTIONS THAT

4191
02:50:42,520 --> 02:50:46,040
CAN HELP US DO THAT.

4192
02:50:46,040 --> 02:50:49,360
SO WE HAVE AUTHORITIES THROUGH

4193
02:50:49,360 --> 02:50:52,040
OUR AFFLUENT LIMITATIONS

4194
02:50:52,040 --> 02:50:53,800
GUIDELINES PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS

4195
02:50:53,800 --> 02:50:56,880
US TO PUT RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT

4196
02:50:56,880 --> 02:50:57,400
DISCHARGES FROM DIFFERENT

4197
02:50:57,400 --> 02:50:58,280
INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES LOOK LIKE.

4198
02:50:58,280 --> 02:51:02,000
SO WE HAVE TARGETED TWO

4199
02:51:02,000 --> 02:51:04,400
INDUSTRIAL SOURCE CATEGORIES FOR

4200
02:51:04,400 --> 02:51:07,000
SOME INITIAL ACTIVITY.

4201
02:51:07,000 --> 02:51:09,760
THE FIRST SOURCE CATEGORY IS THE

4202
02:51:09,760 --> 02:51:12,000
ORGANIC CHEMICALS, PLASTICS AND

4203
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:12,560
SYNTHETICS FIBERS CATEGORY,

4204
02:51:12,560 --> 02:51:17,280
WHICH IF YOU HEARD LINDA GAINS'

4205
02:51:17,280 --> 02:51:18,240
PRESENTATION EARLIER THIS MORN

4206
02:51:18,240 --> 02:51:20,040
ING SHE GAVE A REALLY NICE

4207
02:51:20,040 --> 02:51:25,280
OVERVIEW OF THE USES OF PFAS.

4208
02:51:25,280 --> 02:51:29,040
WHICH REALLY HELPS CONNECT WHY

4209
02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:31,360
THOSE DIFFERENT KIND OF WHY

4210
02:51:31,360 --> 02:51:32,600
THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES ALL

4211
02:51:32,600 --> 02:51:35,000
WOULD BE PART OF THIS FIRST

4212
02:51:35,000 --> 02:51:35,280
ACTION.

4213
02:51:35,280 --> 02:51:36,320
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE THAT WE

4214
02:51:36,320 --> 02:51:43,280
HAVE IS METAL FINISHING, WHICH

4215
02:51:43,280 --> 02:51:46,040
WE'VE TALK ABOUT THE CHROMIUM

4216
02:51:46,040 --> 02:51:47,720
PLATING, SO THE METAL FINISHING

4217
02:51:47,720 --> 02:51:49,320
CATEGORY IS THE SECOND ACTION OR

4218
02:51:49,320 --> 02:51:50,440
THE SECOND INDUSTRIAL SOURCE

4219
02:51:50,440 --> 02:51:53,320
CATEGORY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT

4220
02:51:53,320 --> 02:51:56,440
UNDER THE A FLUENT LIMITATIONS

4221
02:51:56,440 --> 02:51:57,320
GUIDELINE PROGRAM.

4222
02:51:57,320 --> 02:51:58,320
THE OTHER ONE I WANT TO HIGH

4223
02:51:58,320 --> 02:52:01,160
LIGHT IS THE IMPROVEMENT OF

4224
02:52:01,160 --> 02:52:02,120
ANALYTICAL METHODS.

4225
02:52:02,120 --> 02:52:06,680
SO EPA HAS BEEN WORKING OVER

4226
02:52:06,680 --> 02:52:08,200
SEVERAL YEARS TO DEVELOP VAL

4227
02:52:08,200 --> 02:52:10,040
IDATED METHODS FOR MEASURING

4228
02:52:10,040 --> 02:52:11,280
PFAS IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

4229
02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:12,960
WE HAVE MANY METHODS THAT ARE

4230
02:52:12,960 --> 02:52:14,680
AVAILABLE AND WE HAVE BEEN WORK

4231
02:52:14,680 --> 02:52:17,800
ING TO EXPAND KIND OF THE

4232
02:52:17,800 --> 02:52:19,880
METHODS WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR

4233
02:52:19,880 --> 02:52:20,280
DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

4234
02:52:20,280 --> 02:52:22,480
ONE WAY IN WHICH WE'VE DONE THAT

4235
02:52:22,480 --> 02:52:25,280
IS TO RELEASE RIGHT NOW WHAT'S

4236
02:52:25,280 --> 02:52:30,320
THE DRAFT METHOD 1633 THAT WAS

4237
02:52:30,320 --> 02:52:31,040
RELEASED LAST YEAR.

4238
02:52:31,040 --> 02:52:33,560
IT COVERS ROUGHLY I THINK ABOUT

4239
02:52:33,560 --> 02:52:39,080
40 DIFFERENT PFAS AND ALSO SOILS

4240
02:52:39,080 --> 02:52:41,360
AND SEDIMENTS AND AS WELL AS

4241
02:52:41,360 --> 02:52:42,480
FISH TISSUE.

4242
02:52:42,480 --> 02:52:43,840
WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUE

4243
02:52:43,840 --> 02:52:44,640
S CURRENTLY AT THE

4244
02:52:44,640 --> 02:52:47,040
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO DO A

4245
02:52:47,040 --> 02:52:48,040
MULTI-LABORATORY VALIDATION STUD

4246
02:52:48,040 --> 02:52:50,080
Y OF THAT AND WE EXPECT TO

4247
02:52:50,080 --> 02:52:52,440
HAVE THAT STUDY DONE BY THE END

4248
02:52:52,440 --> 02:52:58,560
OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

4249
02:52:58,560 --> 02:53:00,480
THEN WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF LAND

4250
02:53:00,480 --> 02:53:01,360
AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE

4251
02:53:01,360 --> 02:53:03,480
OFFICE OF AIR AND RADIATION HERE

4252
02:53:03,480 --> 02:53:04,040
ON THIS SLIDE.

4253
02:53:04,040 --> 02:53:05,280
THERE ARE SEVERAL ACTIVITIES

4254
02:53:05,280 --> 02:53:09,040
WITHIN THE OFFICE OF LAND AND

4255
02:53:09,040 --> 02:53:11,160
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

4256
02:53:11,160 --> 02:53:17,040
SOME ACTIVITY UNDER CERCLA AND

4257
02:53:17,040 --> 02:53:18,480
SOME UNDER RCRA.

4258
02:53:18,480 --> 02:53:19,680
MOST FOLKS HERE ARE PROBABLY

4259
02:53:19,680 --> 02:53:25,360
WITH THE EFFORTS TO DESIGNATION

4260
02:53:25,360 --> 02:53:28,280
AS HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES UNDER CE

4261
02:53:28,280 --> 02:53:29,320
RCLA WITH THE OFFICE OF

4262
02:53:29,320 --> 02:53:32,280
MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET FOR THE

4263
02:53:32,280 --> 02:53:33,560
INTERAGENCY REVIEW UNDER

4264
02:53:33,560 --> 02:53:36,360
EXECUTIVE ORDER 12866.

4265
02:53:36,360 --> 02:53:37,720
ONCE THAT REVIEW IS CONCLUDED I

4266
02:53:37,720 --> 02:53:39,480
WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THE

4267
02:53:39,480 --> 02:53:43,560
PUBLICATION OF THAT PROPOSED

4268
02:53:43,560 --> 02:53:44,720
RULE IN THE FEDERAL REGISTRAR.

4269
02:53:44,720 --> 02:53:46,760
THE OTHER ONE I WANT TO HIGH

4270
02:53:46,760 --> 02:53:48,680
LIGHT IS THE INTERIM

4271
02:53:48,680 --> 02:53:50,760
GUIDANCE ON DESTRUCTION AND DIS

4272
02:53:50,760 --> 02:53:53,000
POSAL OF PFAS AND PFAS

4273
02:53:53,000 --> 02:53:53,640
CONTAINING MATERIALS, WHICH IS

4274
02:53:53,640 --> 02:53:55,840
THAT THIRD BULLET DOWN.

4275
02:53:55,840 --> 02:54:01,880
SO BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2020 EPA

4276
02:54:01,880 --> 02:54:03,360
ISSUED LET'S SAY FIRST ADDITION

4277
02:54:03,360 --> 02:54:06,800
OF THE INTERIM GUIDANCE, THAT

4278
02:54:06,800 --> 02:54:11,840
WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE FY20

4279
02:54:11,840 --> 02:54:12,880
NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION

4280
02:54:12,880 --> 02:54:16,040
ACT WHICH DIRECTED EPA TO

4281
02:54:16,040 --> 02:54:16,680
DEVELOP INTERIM GUIDANCE ON THE

4282
02:54:16,680 --> 02:54:20,280
DESTRUCTION AND DISPOSAL OF PFAS

4283
02:54:20,280 --> 02:54:21,360
AND THEN MDAA ALSO REQUIRES US

4284
02:54:21,360 --> 02:54:23,960
TO UPDATE THAT INTERIM GUIDANCE

4285
02:54:23,960 --> 02:54:25,800
AT LEAST EVERY THREE YEARS.

4286
02:54:25,800 --> 02:54:29,880
SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF YOU

4287
02:54:29,880 --> 02:54:31,640
KNOW PLANNING FOR THAT NEXT UP

4288
02:54:31,640 --> 02:54:33,480
DATE OF THE GUIDANCE, PLANNING

4289
02:54:33,480 --> 02:54:36,160
FOR THAT TO BE DONE BY THE END

4290
02:54:36,160 --> 02:54:38,960
OF 2023.

4291
02:54:38,960 --> 02:54:40,240
AND THEN WITHIN THE OFFICE OF

4292
02:54:40,240 --> 02:54:43,880
AIR AND RADIATION THEY'VE BEEN

4293
02:54:43,880 --> 02:54:44,480
WORKING TO BUILD THE TECHNICAL

4294
02:54:44,480 --> 02:54:48,920
FOUNDATION TO ADDRESS PFAS AND

4295
02:54:48,920 --> 02:54:50,160
AIR ADMISSIONS.

4296
02:54:50,160 --> 02:54:52,480
SO THIS INCLUDES DEVELOPING

4297
02:54:52,480 --> 02:54:55,480
METHODS FOR MEASURING PFAS.

4298
02:54:55,480 --> 02:54:58,920
IN ORD WE'RE LOOKING AT BOTH

4299
02:54:58,920 --> 02:55:00,720
TARGETED METHODS AS WELL AS NON-

4300
02:55:00,720 --> 02:55:01,960
TARGETED METHODS FOR PFAS

4301
02:55:01,960 --> 02:55:03,560
AIR EMISSIONS.

4302
02:55:03,560 --> 02:55:06,240
WE ALSO REALIZED IT IS IMPORTANT

4303
02:55:06,240 --> 02:55:08,800
TO CHARACTERIZE SOURCES OF AIR E

4304
02:55:08,800 --> 02:55:10,160
MISSIONS, PFAS AIR EMISSIONS

4305
02:55:10,160 --> 02:55:11,120
AND THEN ALSO IMPORTANT TO

4306
02:55:11,120 --> 02:55:13,280
UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT CONTROL

4307
02:55:13,280 --> 02:55:16,840
TECHNOLOGIES AND HOW EFFECTIVE

4308
02:55:16,840 --> 02:55:18,160
THOSE TECHNOLOGIES ARE AT

4309
02:55:18,160 --> 02:55:22,480
CONTROLLING PFAS AIR EMISSIONS.

4310
02:55:22,480 --> 02:55:24,280
WITHIN OFFICE OF RESEARCH AND

4311
02:55:24,280 --> 02:55:26,200
DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE THREE KEY

4312
02:55:26,200 --> 02:55:28,040
ACTIONS UNDER THE STRATEGIC ROAD

4313
02:55:28,040 --> 02:55:28,240
MAP.

4314
02:55:28,240 --> 02:55:30,600
THE FIRST OF COURSE IS TO

4315
02:55:30,600 --> 02:55:32,320
DEVELOP AND VALIDATE METHODS FOR

4316
02:55:32,320 --> 02:55:33,880
DETECTING AND ERGS AMING PFAS IN

4317
02:55:33,880 --> 02:55:34,880
THE ENVIRONMENT.

4318
02:55:34,880 --> 02:55:35,880
I'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE

4319
02:55:35,880 --> 02:55:39,840
EFFORTS UNDERWAY THERE.

4320
02:55:39,840 --> 02:55:40,480
PERHAPS THE ONE APPROACH THAT I

4321
02:55:40,480 --> 02:55:43,760
HAVEN'T MENTIONED YET IS WE ARE

4322
02:55:43,760 --> 02:55:46,920
EXPLORING AND WORKING TO DEVELOP

4323
02:55:46,920 --> 02:55:49,880
METHODS FOR I'M GOING TO SAY

4324
02:55:49,880 --> 02:55:58,600
TOTAL PFAS SO WE HAVE A DRAFT AB

4325
02:55:58,600 --> 02:55:59,120
SORBABLE WORKING WITH THE

4326
02:55:59,120 --> 02:56:02,080
OFFICE OF WATER TO EXPLORE

4327
02:56:02,080 --> 02:56:03,280
WHETHER OR NOT THAT METHOD IS

4328
02:56:03,280 --> 02:56:05,680
READY FOR SOME KIND OF

4329
02:56:05,680 --> 02:56:08,640
LABORATORY VALIDATION STUDY.

4330
02:56:08,640 --> 02:56:09,920
THE SECOND KEY ACTION THAT WE

4331
02:56:09,920 --> 02:56:11,240
HAVE GOING ON IN THE OFFICE OF

4332
02:56:11,240 --> 02:56:14,840
RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IS TO

4333
02:56:14,840 --> 02:56:17,040
ADVANCE THE SCIENCE TO ASSESS

4334
02:56:17,040 --> 02:56:18,080
HUMAN HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL

4335
02:56:18,080 --> 02:56:18,680
RISK FROM PFAS.

4336
02:56:18,680 --> 02:56:20,560
WE HAVE A LOT OF RESEARCH IN

4337
02:56:20,560 --> 02:56:21,040
THIS EFFORT.

4338
02:56:21,040 --> 02:56:22,600
THERE IS A FEW BULLETS ON THE

4339
02:56:22,600 --> 02:56:25,280
SCREEN HERE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE

4340
02:56:25,280 --> 02:56:25,520
EFFORTS.

4341
02:56:25,520 --> 02:56:26,880
PROBABLY THE ONE THAT I GET ASK

4342
02:56:26,880 --> 02:56:30,240
ED ABOUT THE MOST IS ARE THE

4343
02:56:30,240 --> 02:56:31,680
IRIS ASSESSMENTS.

4344
02:56:31,680 --> 02:56:34,520
SO UNDER ORD'S IRIS PROGRAM

4345
02:56:34,520 --> 02:56:38,280
WE'RE DEVELOPING IRIS ASSESS

4346
02:56:38,280 --> 02:56:40,680
MENTS FOR FIVE DIFFERENT

4347
02:56:40,680 --> 02:56:40,920
PFASES.

4348
02:56:40,920 --> 02:56:42,800
WE RELEASED ONE OF THE DRAFT

4349
02:56:42,800 --> 02:56:49,640
ASSESSMENTS LAST YEAR FOR PFBA,

4350
02:56:49,640 --> 02:56:52,480
SINCE THAT POINT PFBA HAS UNDER

4351
02:56:52,480 --> 02:56:54,240
GONE A PUBLIC COMMENT

4352
02:56:54,240 --> 02:56:56,440
PERIOD AND REVIEW AND ADDRESS

4353
02:56:56,440 --> 02:56:59,840
THOSE COMMENTS AND DEVELOP THE

4354
02:56:59,840 --> 02:57:02,200
FIVE FINAL ASSESSMENTS THIS YEAR

4355
02:57:02,200 --> 02:57:03,040
THE OTHER ARE IN DEVELOPMENT AND

4356
02:57:03,040 --> 02:57:05,360
WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE DRAFTS OF

4357
02:57:05,360 --> 02:57:07,800
ALL FOUR OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS

4358
02:57:07,800 --> 02:57:08,400
RELEASED THIS YEAR FOR PUBLIC

4359
02:57:08,400 --> 02:57:09,280
AMOUNT CA.

4360
02:57:09,280 --> 02:57:10,120
WE HAVE ALREADY RELEASED THE

4361
02:57:10,120 --> 02:57:17,240
DRAFT ASSESSMENT FOR PFASA

4362
02:57:17,240 --> 02:57:19,080
CURRENTLY OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

4363
02:57:19,080 --> 02:57:19,280
NOW.

4364
02:57:19,280 --> 02:57:21,760
THAT FINAL ACTION FOR US IS TO

4365
02:57:21,760 --> 02:57:23,560
EVALUATE AND DEVELOP TECHNOLOG

4366
02:57:23,560 --> 02:57:25,040
IES FOR REDUCING PFAS

4367
02:57:25,040 --> 02:57:25,480
IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

4368
02:57:25,480 --> 02:57:29,000
SO IN MANY WAYS SOME OF ORDs

4369
02:57:29,000 --> 02:57:30,360
EFFORTS ARE FOCUSOND COLLECTING

4370
02:57:30,360 --> 02:57:33,080
AND GENERATING DATA THAT CAN BE

4371
02:57:33,080 --> 02:57:35,320
USED TO INFORM THE NEXT VERSION

4372
02:57:35,320 --> 02:57:37,480
OF THE DESTRUCTION AND DISPOSAL

4373
02:57:37,480 --> 02:57:40,000
GUIDANCE AND THEN ALSO

4374
02:57:40,000 --> 02:57:41,720
SUBSEQUENT VERSIONS AFTER THAT.

4375
02:57:41,720 --> 02:57:45,720
WE ALSO ARE TRYING TO TAKE SOME

4376
02:57:45,720 --> 02:57:47,680
OF THE CONCEPTS FROM PFAS

4377
02:57:47,680 --> 02:57:50,440
CATEGORIES AND REALLY HELP PFAS

4378
02:57:50,440 --> 02:57:51,600
CATEGORIES HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED

4379
02:57:51,600 --> 02:57:54,840
AND ARE BEING USED TO KIND OF

4380
02:57:54,840 --> 02:57:56,880
PRIORITIZE DECISIONS ABOUT

4381
02:57:56,880 --> 02:57:58,440
TOXICITY TESTING AND INK THING

4382
02:57:58,440 --> 02:58:00,680
ABOUT HOW WE CAN APPLY THOSE

4383
02:58:00,680 --> 02:58:03,720
KINDS OF CATEGORIES TO OTHER

4384
02:58:03,720 --> 02:58:04,440
DECISION CONTEXT.

4385
02:58:04,440 --> 02:58:07,600
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT CAN WE

4386
02:58:07,600 --> 02:58:08,520
DEVELOP PFAS CATEGORIES BY

4387
02:58:08,520 --> 02:58:11,520
DIFFERENT REMOVAL TECHNOLOGIES,

4388
02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:14,200
WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO

4389
02:58:14,200 --> 02:58:15,400
UNDERSTAND WHICH PFAS ARE MOST

4390
02:58:15,400 --> 02:58:17,280
LIKELY REMOVED BY WHICH TECH

4391
02:58:17,280 --> 02:58:19,480
NOLOGIES AND THEN CAN ALSO

4392
02:58:19,480 --> 02:58:22,880
HELP US UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE

4393
02:58:22,880 --> 02:58:24,720
GAPS.

4394
02:58:24,720 --> 02:58:25,560
ARE THERE PFAS WHERES WE DON'T

4395
02:58:25,560 --> 02:58:27,120
THINK THESE AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY

4396
02:58:27,120 --> 02:58:28,000
ERIZE GOOD ENOUGH TO

4397
02:58:28,000 --> 02:58:31,080
REMOVE THOSE PFAS FROM A

4398
02:58:31,080 --> 02:58:31,880
PARTICULAR WASTESTREAM.

4399
02:58:31,880 --> 02:58:32,920
IF WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE GAPS

4400
02:58:32,920 --> 02:58:36,080
THAT CAN HELP US TARGET RESEARCH

4401
02:58:36,080 --> 02:58:36,720
AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES IN

4402
02:58:36,720 --> 02:58:41,040
THAT AREA.

4403
02:58:41,040 --> 02:58:42,480
WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL ACTIONS

4404
02:58:42,480 --> 02:58:43,480
ACROSS THE AGENCY THAT ARE WHAT

4405
02:58:43,480 --> 02:58:46,240
WE CALL CROS-PROGRAM ACTIONS,

4406
02:58:46,240 --> 02:58:47,640
WHICH CLEARLY HAVE TO DO WITH

4407
02:58:47,640 --> 02:58:51,440
THE ENGAGEMENT OF DIFFERENT

4408
02:58:51,440 --> 02:58:52,400
PROGRAM OFFICES ACROSS EPA.

4409
02:58:52,400 --> 02:58:55,000
HERE WE ARE WORKING TO ENGAGE

4410
02:58:55,000 --> 02:58:56,920
DIRECTLY WITH AFFECTED

4411
02:58:56,920 --> 02:58:58,400
COMMUNITIES AND EVERY EPA REGION

4412
02:58:58,400 --> 02:59:01,760
SO THAT WE CAN HEAR HOW PFAS CON

4413
02:59:01,760 --> 02:59:03,360
TAMINATION HAS AFFECTED

4414
02:59:03,360 --> 02:59:04,920
PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THEIR

4415
02:59:04,920 --> 02:59:05,280
LIVELIHOODS.

4416
02:59:05,280 --> 02:59:07,480
WE'RE ALSO USING OUR ENFORCEMENT

4417
02:59:07,480 --> 02:59:10,520
TOOLS TO BETTER IDENTIFYQUAL

4418
02:59:10,520 --> 02:59:12,280
ADDRESS PFAS RELEASES AT

4419
02:59:12,280 --> 02:59:13,720
DIFFERENT FACILITIES ACROSS THE

4420
02:59:13,720 --> 02:59:15,800
COUNTRY AS APPROPRIATE.

4421
02:59:15,800 --> 02:59:20,880
THEN, WE'RE USING PUBLIC, WE'RE

4422
02:59:20,880 --> 02:59:22,120
WORKING TO ACCELBRATE PUBLIC

4423
02:59:22,120 --> 02:59:23,400
HEALTH PROTECTIONS BY

4424
02:59:23,400 --> 02:59:24,240
IDENTIFYING PFAS CATEGORIES.

4425
02:59:24,240 --> 02:59:26,880
SO I'VE ALREADY TALK ABOUT THE

4426
02:59:26,880 --> 02:59:28,160
CONCEPT OF PFAS CATEGORIES BUT

4427
02:59:28,160 --> 02:59:30,120
WHAT WE'RE ULTIMATELY TRYING TO

4428
02:59:30,120 --> 02:59:31,840
DO AT THE BIG-PICTURE LEVEL IS

4429
02:59:31,840 --> 02:59:36,040
TO MOVE FROM A CHEMICAL BY CHEM

4430
02:59:36,040 --> 02:59:37,840
ICAL APPROACH TO EVALUATING

4431
02:59:37,840 --> 02:59:40,200
AND ADDRESSING PFAS, MOVING FROM

4432
02:59:40,200 --> 02:59:42,600
THAT CHEMICAL BY CHEMICAL

4433
02:59:42,600 --> 02:59:44,000
APPROACH TO GROUPS OF PFAS OR

4434
02:59:44,000 --> 02:59:45,360
ADDRESSING GROUPS OF PFAS AT A

4435
02:59:45,360 --> 02:59:49,840
TIME.

4436
02:59:49,840 --> 02:59:51,880
THAT IS WHY THE DEVELOPMENT OF

4437
02:59:51,880 --> 02:59:53,720
PFAS CATEGORYICIZE SUCH A

4438
02:59:53,720 --> 02:59:55,320
PRIORITY WITHIN THE AGENCY.

4439
02:59:55,320 --> 02:59:57,360
WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO ESTABLISH

4440
02:59:57,360 --> 03:00:01,240
A PFAS VOLUNTARY STEWARDSHIP

4441
03:00:01,240 --> 03:00:01,480
PROGRAM.

4442
03:00:01,480 --> 03:00:02,400
THAT WOULD CHALLENGE INDUSTRY TO

4443
03:00:02,400 --> 03:00:04,920
GO ABOVE AND BEYOND EXISTING REG

4444
03:00:04,920 --> 03:00:07,280
ULATIONS TO REDUCE OVERALL

4445
03:00:07,280 --> 03:00:09,360
RELEASE OF PFAS TO THE

4446
03:00:09,360 --> 03:00:10,240
ENVIRONMENT.

4447
03:00:10,240 --> 03:00:12,360
WE CONTINUE, AS ALWAYS, TO

4448
03:00:12,360 --> 03:00:13,920
EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE

4449
03:00:13,920 --> 03:00:17,040
RISKS OF PFAS SO MAKING SURE

4450
03:00:17,040 --> 03:00:18,280
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT PFAS ARE,

4451
03:00:18,280 --> 03:00:20,240
HOW THEY ARE USED AND WHAT THE

4452
03:00:20,240 --> 03:00:21,200
POTENTIAL HUMAN HEALTH AND

4453
03:00:21,200 --> 03:00:23,800
ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECT ARE.

4454
03:00:23,800 --> 03:00:26,600
AND THEN FINELY WE'VE COMMITTED

4455
03:00:26,600 --> 03:00:29,600
TO ISSUING AN ANNUAL PUBLIC

4456
03:00:29,600 --> 03:00:30,920
REPORT ON THE PROGRESS TOWARDS

4457
03:00:30,920 --> 03:00:32,960
THE COMMITMENTS WE'VE MADE IN

4458
03:00:32,960 --> 03:00:34,520
THIS STRATEGIC ROADMAP.

4459
03:00:34,520 --> 03:00:37,720
AND QUICKLY, FOR THE NEXT STEPS,

4460
03:00:37,720 --> 03:00:41,360
EPA IS COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENT,

4461
03:00:41,360 --> 03:00:42,440
EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE ENGAGE

4462
03:00:42,440 --> 03:00:44,240
MENT WITH ALL OF OUR

4463
03:00:44,240 --> 03:00:45,880
STAKEHOLDERS AS WE CONTINUE TO

4464
03:00:45,880 --> 03:00:48,040
IMPLEMENT THE ACTIONS IN THE

4465
03:00:48,040 --> 03:00:48,480
STRATEGIC ROADMAP.

4466
03:00:48,480 --> 03:00:50,520
WE HAVE A NATIONAL ENGAGEMENT

4467
03:00:50,520 --> 03:00:53,920
EFFORT THAT'S UNDERWAY.

4468
03:00:53,920 --> 03:00:55,640
ONCE THE ROADMAP WAS RELEASED WE

4469
03:00:55,640 --> 03:00:58,200
HAD NATIONAL WEB NARS IN OCTOBER

4470
03:00:58,200 --> 03:00:59,640
AND NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR TO PRE

4471
03:00:59,640 --> 03:01:02,720
SENT THE ROADMAP TO A VARIETY

4472
03:01:02,720 --> 03:01:03,440
OF GROUPS.

4473
03:01:03,440 --> 03:01:05,000
WE'VE BEEN HAVING STAKEHOLDER

4474
03:01:05,000 --> 03:01:07,720
LISTENING SESSIONS WHERE WE'VE

4475
03:01:07,720 --> 03:01:08,360
BEEN BREAKING DIFFERENT GROUPS

4476
03:01:08,360 --> 03:01:10,280
ON THE CONTENT OF THE ROADMAP.

4477
03:01:10,280 --> 03:01:13,280
WE'VE BEEN HEARING FEEDBACK FROM

4478
03:01:13,280 --> 03:01:14,440
THOSE GROUPS ON THE CONTENT AND

4479
03:01:14,440 --> 03:01:15,760
WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

4480
03:01:15,760 --> 03:01:18,200
AGAIN, WE HAVE A FOCUS IMPACTED

4481
03:01:18,200 --> 03:01:21,040
COMMUNITY SO WE'LL BE GOING OUT

4482
03:01:21,040 --> 03:01:22,400
TO EPA'S REGIONS AND MEETING

4483
03:01:22,400 --> 03:01:24,320
WITH AFFECTED COMMUNITIES WITHIN

4484
03:01:24,320 --> 03:01:28,160
THOSE REGIONS.

4485
03:01:28,160 --> 03:01:30,480
# SO WE KNOW THAT THE ACTIVITIES

4486
03:01:30,480 --> 03:01:32,480
IN THE ROAD MAP AREN'T GOING TO

4487
03:01:32,480 --> 03:01:34,520
SOLVE OUR ISSUES OVERNIGHT BUT

4488
03:01:34,520 --> 03:01:38,920
WE ARE WORKING TO ACCELERATE OUR

4489
03:01:38,920 --> 03:01:39,840
ABILITY TO ADDRESS PFAS AND WE

4490
03:01:39,840 --> 03:01:44,200
WANT TO DO THAT BY HARNESSING

4491
03:01:44,200 --> 03:01:46,480
THE COLLECTED RESOURCES AND

4492
03:01:46,480 --> 03:01:48,760
AUTHORITIES ACROSS THE FEDERAL,

4493
03:01:48,760 --> 03:01:50,400
TRIBAL, STATE AND LOCAL

4494
03:01:50,400 --> 03:01:56,040
GOVERNMENT SO WE CAN MAKE

4495
03:01:56,040 --> 03:01:57,360
APPRECIATABLE GAINS ON ADDRESS

4496
03:01:57,360 --> 03:01:58,200
ING PFAS.

4497
03:01:58,200 --> 03:01:59,040
SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO STOP

4498
03:01:59,040 --> 03:02:00,960
NOW AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

4499
03:02:00,960 --> 03:02:10,040
QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME IN.

4500
03:02:10,040 --> 03:02:11,000
>> JAMES: THANKS A LOT.

4501
03:02:11,000 --> 03:02:12,320
THERE IS A QUESTION POSTED IN

4502
03:02:12,320 --> 03:02:24,640
THE CHAT.

4503
03:02:24,640 --> 03:02:25,760
>> THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS.

4504
03:02:25,760 --> 03:02:32,560
CAN YOU SEE THEM DR. BURDEN.

4505
03:02:32,560 --> 03:02:36,680
HOW IS DISPOSAL OF THE AFFF USED

4506
03:02:36,680 --> 03:02:39,200
BY FIRE DEPARTMENTS TRACKED?

4507
03:02:39,200 --> 03:02:42,960
AFFF IS RELEASED ON ALL TYPES OF

4508
03:02:42,960 --> 03:02:43,440
LOCATIONS AND FIRES.

4509
03:02:43,440 --> 03:02:49,360
IS THE ECO FRIENDLY SAFER WHEN

4510
03:02:49,360 --> 03:02:50,400
IT CONTAINS PFAS?

4511
03:02:50,400 --> 03:02:55,480
SO DISPOSAL OF AFFF USED BY FIRE

4512
03:02:55,480 --> 03:02:55,880
DEPARTMENTS TRACKED.

4513
03:02:55,880 --> 03:02:57,680
I AM NOT SURE HOW THAT IS TRACK

4514
03:02:57,680 --> 03:02:57,840
ED.

4515
03:02:57,840 --> 03:03:00,240
I WOULD IMAGINE IF THAT IS BEING

4516
03:03:00,240 --> 03:03:01,480
TRACKED IT WOULD BE TRACKED MORE

4517
03:03:01,480 --> 03:03:02,960
AT THE LOCAL OR STATE LEVEL.

4518
03:03:02,960 --> 03:03:05,600
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PROGRAMS

4519
03:03:05,600 --> 03:03:09,360
WITHIN EPA THAT ARE TRACKING THE

4520
03:03:09,360 --> 03:03:17,040
DISPOSAL OF AFFF.

4521
03:03:17,040 --> 03:03:20,200
ECO FRIENDLY AFFF SAFER?

4522
03:03:20,200 --> 03:03:22,000
I GUESS IT IS ALL IN YOUR

4523
03:03:22,000 --> 03:03:23,600
DEFINITION ON WHAT YOU CONSIDER

4524
03:03:23,600 --> 03:03:23,880
SAFER TO BE.

4525
03:03:23,880 --> 03:03:32,000
AND SO THERE ARE SOME STUDIES

4526
03:03:32,000 --> 03:03:32,800
UNDERWAY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND

4527
03:03:32,800 --> 03:03:35,840
WHAT BOTH THE HUMAN HEALTH AND

4528
03:03:35,840 --> 03:03:38,880
EKE LOGICAL EFFECTS MIGHT BE FOR

4529
03:03:38,880 --> 03:03:41,080
PFAS ALTERNATIVE AFFFs.

4530
03:03:41,080 --> 03:03:44,800
I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME

4531
03:03:44,800 --> 03:03:49,360
WORK BY THE NATIONAL TOXICOLOGY

4532
03:03:49,360 --> 03:03:53,040
PROGRAM.

4533
03:03:53,040 --> 03:03:54,040
I KNOW THAT DoD PROGRAM HAS

4534
03:03:54,040 --> 03:04:02,040
FUNDED STUDIES ON EKE ECOLOGICAL

4535
03:04:02,040 --> 03:04:02,400
EFFECTS.

4536
03:04:02,400 --> 03:04:03,960
I THINK THERE IS STILL A LOT OF

4537
03:04:03,960 --> 03:04:05,720
SCIENCE BEING DONE WITHIN THAT

4538
03:04:05,720 --> 03:04:06,200
REALM.

4539
03:04:06,200 --> 03:04:07,120
ALL RIGHT NEXT QUESTION.

4540
03:04:07,120 --> 03:04:11,040
HAS EPA PUBLISHED ANY UPDATES ON

4541
03:04:11,040 --> 03:04:18,720
THE DETECTION LIMIT OF PFOS OR P

4542
03:04:18,720 --> 03:04:20,800
FOA FROM WASTEWATER AND THE

4543
03:04:20,800 --> 03:04:22,480
STATE LANDFILLS?

4544
03:04:22,480 --> 03:04:24,880
OKAY SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

4545
03:04:24,880 --> 03:04:27,000
AT THE POINT, AT THIS POINT EPA

4546
03:04:27,000 --> 03:04:30,000
'S OFFICE OF WATER IS CONDUCT

4547
03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:33,960
ING A RISK ASSESSMENT OF

4548
03:04:33,960 --> 03:04:39,080
PFOA AND PFOS IN BIOSOLIDS SO

4549
03:04:39,080 --> 03:04:41,080
WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND

4550
03:04:41,080 --> 03:04:41,800
REALLY DEVELOP WHAT THAT RISK

4551
03:04:41,800 --> 03:04:43,280
LEVEL WOULD BE AND THEN DEPEND

4552
03:04:43,280 --> 03:04:45,400
ING ON WHAT THAT RISK

4553
03:04:45,400 --> 03:04:47,640
ASSESSMENT MEANS AND SAYS WOULD

4554
03:04:47,640 --> 03:04:48,920
DETERMINE WHAT ACTIONS WE WOULD

4555
03:04:48,920 --> 03:04:50,880
TAKE MOVING FORWARD.

4556
03:04:50,880 --> 03:04:57,760
SO THAT IS STILL ON-GOING WORK.

4557
03:04:57,760 --> 03:05:01,640
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING IN

4558
03:05:01,640 --> 03:05:03,840
REFERENCE TO PFAS FOUND/NOT

4559
03:05:03,840 --> 03:05:10,040
FOUND IN COMMUNITIES?

4560
03:05:10,040 --> 03:05:12,080
DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE

4561
03:05:12,080 --> 03:05:19,880
YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT QUESTION.

4562
03:05:19,880 --> 03:05:23,040
I THINK THAT WE OFTEN HEAR FROM

4563
03:05:23,040 --> 03:05:24,760
COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE HAVE

4564
03:05:24,760 --> 03:05:25,520
BEEN KNOWN RELEASES OF PFAS TO

4565
03:05:25,520 --> 03:05:30,960
THE ENVIRONMENT, GENERALLY

4566
03:05:30,960 --> 03:05:32,000
THROUGH THINGS LIKE FIRE FIGHT

4567
03:05:32,000 --> 03:05:35,000
ING TRAINING SITES OR

4568
03:05:35,000 --> 03:05:37,440
MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND THAT

4569
03:05:37,440 --> 03:05:39,760
THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE

4570
03:05:39,760 --> 03:05:41,880
IS CONCERN IN THE SURROUNDING

4571
03:05:41,880 --> 03:05:45,160
COMMUNITY ABOUT DRINKING WATER

4572
03:05:45,160 --> 03:05:49,360
CONTAMINATION ALSO GROUNDWATER

4573
03:05:49,360 --> 03:05:51,640
CONTAMINATION, ABOUT POTENTIAL

4574
03:05:51,640 --> 03:05:56,600
AGRICULTURE CONTAMINATION AND WE

4575
03:05:56,600 --> 03:05:58,040
HAVE HEARD AT LEAST I HAVE HEARD

4576
03:05:58,040 --> 03:06:01,400
A LOT OF FRUSTRATION FROM THOSE

4577
03:06:01,400 --> 03:06:08,160
COMMUNITIES ABOUT SLOWNESS OF

4578
03:06:08,160 --> 03:06:09,280
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN MANY

4579
03:06:09,280 --> 03:06:12,480
CASES TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS

4580
03:06:12,480 --> 03:06:17,040
OR TO TAKE ACTION TO REMEDIATE

4581
03:06:17,040 --> 03:06:17,480
THOSE SITES.

4582
03:06:17,480 --> 03:06:21,360
THAT IS LARGELY WHAT I'VE BEEN

4583
03:06:21,360 --> 03:06:25,720
HEARING.

4584
03:06:25,720 --> 03:06:26,480
>> THERE IS ONE MORE QUESTION

4585
03:06:26,480 --> 03:06:29,240
AND I'M ABOUT TO PASTE IT IN THE

4586
03:06:29,240 --> 03:06:32,280
CHAT, BUT WOULD THE PREFERRED

4587
03:06:32,280 --> 03:06:34,600
METHOD OF PFAS CONTAMINATED SOIL

4588
03:06:34,600 --> 03:06:36,600
BY IN CONSIDERATION?

4589
03:06:36,600 --> 03:06:39,160
>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND

4590
03:06:39,160 --> 03:06:42,320
IT IS ONE WITHOUT AN EASY ANSWER

4591
03:06:42,320 --> 03:06:46,400
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DATA ON

4592
03:06:46,400 --> 03:06:51,040
INCINERATION ON PFAS.

4593
03:06:51,040 --> 03:06:52,760
IN THEORY YOU CAN INCINERATE

4594
03:06:52,760 --> 03:06:56,200
PFAS IN THAT YOU CAN HEAT IT UP

4595
03:06:56,200 --> 03:06:57,880
HIGH ENOUGH AND FOR LONG ENOUGH

4596
03:06:57,880 --> 03:07:00,560
THAT YOU WOULD BREAK THOSE

4597
03:07:00,560 --> 03:07:01,520
CARBON FLORRIC BONDS.

4598
03:07:01,520 --> 03:07:07,680
THE CONCERN HAS BEEN EVEN IF YOU

4599
03:07:07,680 --> 03:07:10,000
BREAK THOSE BONDS THERE IS THE

4600
03:07:10,000 --> 03:07:11,720
POTENTIAL FOR OTHER PFAS TO KIND

4601
03:07:11,720 --> 03:07:14,520
OF REFORM DURING THE IN

4602
03:07:14,520 --> 03:07:16,200
CINERATION PROCESS.

4603
03:07:16,200 --> 03:07:17,880
SO REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND

4604
03:07:17,880 --> 03:07:20,800
IF YOU REALLY COMPLETELY DESTROY

4605
03:07:20,800 --> 03:07:22,680
ED PFAS THROUGH IN

4606
03:07:22,680 --> 03:07:25,280
CINERATION PROCESS AND YOU'RE

4607
03:07:25,280 --> 03:07:29,000
NOT CREATING SOME OTHER KIND OF

4608
03:07:29,000 --> 03:07:29,880
EMISSION THAT YOU WOULD THEN

4609
03:07:29,880 --> 03:07:37,880
HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

4610
03:07:37,880 --> 03:07:40,680
>> JAMES: SUSAN THANK YOU SO

4611
03:07:40,680 --> 03:07:41,880
MUCH FOR ALL OF THIS REALLY TIME

4612
03:07:41,880 --> 03:07:47,040
LY INFORMATION ON ALL OF EPA

4613
03:07:47,040 --> 03:07:48,160
'S ACTIVITIES IN 30 MINUTES.

4614
03:07:48,160 --> 03:07:52,720
THAT WAS -- .

4615
03:07:52,720 --> 03:07:54,560
>> IT IS A WORLD-WIND TOUR.

4616
03:07:54,560 --> 03:07:56,280
>> JAMES: HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT

4617
03:07:56,280 --> 03:07:57,880
WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.

4618
03:07:57,880 --> 03:08:00,640
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING

4619
03:08:00,640 --> 03:08:00,800
ME.

4620
03:08:00,800 --> 03:08:04,360
>> JAMES: THANK YOU.

4621
03:08:04,360 --> 03:08:07,720
ROB SEIFERT, ARE YOU ON, SIR.

4622
03:08:07,720 --> 03:08:10,880
>> ROB: I SURE AM.

4623
03:08:10,880 --> 03:08:11,720
>> JAMES: GREAT.

4624
03:08:11,720 --> 03:08:15,720
SO MR. ROB SEIFERT IS THE

4625
03:08:15,720 --> 03:08:17,320
DIRECTOR OF THE SAUCE OF SUB

4626
03:08:17,320 --> 03:08:19,520
SERVICE CLOSURE AT THE

4627
03:08:19,520 --> 03:08:20,960
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.

4628
03:08:20,960 --> 03:08:22,560
SIDE NOTE HE IS ALSO MY BOSS.

4629
03:08:22,560 --> 03:08:25,040
HE HAS SERVED IN THE EM PROGRAM

4630
03:08:25,040 --> 03:08:30,680
FOR 29 YEARS STARTING IN 1993.

4631
03:08:30,680 --> 03:08:33,000
MR. SEIFERT HAS HELD A NUMBER OF

4632
03:08:33,000 --> 03:08:33,760
TECHNICAL AND MANAGEMENT

4633
03:08:33,760 --> 03:08:37,360
POSITIONS AS BOTH A CONTRACTOR.

4634
03:08:37,360 --> 03:08:41,040
MR. SEIFERT JOINS THE DOE

4635
03:08:41,040 --> 03:08:42,880
HEADQUARTERS TEAM IN 2014 AS THE

4636
03:08:42,880 --> 03:08:45,320
DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF REGULATORY

4637
03:08:45,320 --> 03:08:48,880
COMPLIANCE WITH A DEGREE IN

4638
03:08:48,880 --> 03:08:51,800
CHEMISTRY AND BIOLOGY FROM

4639
03:08:51,800 --> 03:08:52,280
MURRAY STATE UNIVERSITY.

4640
03:08:52,280 --> 03:08:53,680
WELCOME.

4641
03:08:53,680 --> 03:08:57,320
DO YOU HAVE YOUR POWERPOINT HAND

4642
03:08:57,320 --> 03:09:01,240
Y?

4643
03:09:01,240 --> 03:09:03,080
>> ROB: YES, I SURE DO.

4644
03:09:03,080 --> 03:09:04,240
WE READY TO SHARE THE SCREEN.

4645
03:09:04,240 --> 03:09:06,880
AND I THINK I'M THE LAST SPEAKER

4646
03:09:06,880 --> 03:09:07,280
OF THE DAY.

4647
03:09:07,280 --> 03:09:09,280
, IS THAT RIGHT?

4648
03:09:09,280 --> 03:09:13,040
>> JAMES: YOU ARE.

4649
03:09:13,040 --> 03:09:14,720
>> ROB: SO I STAND IN THE WAY OF

4650
03:09:14,720 --> 03:09:17,000
EVERYBODY AND HAPPY HOUR.

4651
03:09:17,000 --> 03:09:34,960
LET'S SEE HERE.

4652
03:09:34,960 --> 03:09:36,760
I'M NOT FINDING IT.

4653
03:09:36,760 --> 03:09:45,040
HANG ON JUST A QUICK SECOND.

4654
03:09:45,040 --> 03:09:49,040
FOR SOME REASON MY SYSTEM HAS

4655
03:09:49,040 --> 03:09:49,600
DECIDED NOT TO COOPERATE.

4656
03:09:49,600 --> 03:09:49,840
HANG ON.

4657
03:09:49,840 --> 03:09:52,400
WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.

4658
03:09:52,400 --> 03:10:03,720
IT WORKED IN PRACTICE.

4659
03:10:03,720 --> 03:10:17,040
HERE WE GO.

4660
03:10:17,040 --> 03:10:17,280
GREAT.

4661
03:10:17,280 --> 03:10:18,960
CAN YOU SEE IT.

4662
03:10:18,960 --> 03:10:20,840
>> JAMES: YEP.

4663
03:10:20,840 --> 03:10:22,440
>> ROB: OUTSTANDING.

4664
03:10:22,440 --> 03:10:22,640
OKAY.

4665
03:10:22,640 --> 03:10:24,280
WELL THANK YOU FOR THE

4666
03:10:24,280 --> 03:10:27,120
INVITATION TO SPEAK TODAY.

4667
03:10:27,120 --> 03:10:30,200
I FEEL LIKE IT IS AN INCREDIBLY

4668
03:10:30,200 --> 03:10:38,960
TIMELY FOR ME TO FOLLOW SUSAN'S

4669
03:10:38,960 --> 03:10:41,040
PRESENTATION THE WORK THAT WE

4670
03:10:41,040 --> 03:10:43,520
ARE DOING AS ARE ALL OF THE VAR

4671
03:10:43,520 --> 03:10:44,840
IOUS AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS

4672
03:10:44,840 --> 03:10:49,880
ARE REALLY TRYING TO COLLABORATE

4673
03:10:49,880 --> 03:10:53,680
TO WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE THIS

4674
03:10:53,680 --> 03:10:57,320
ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING REGARD

4675
03:10:57,320 --> 03:10:58,240
ING PFAS.

4676
03:10:58,240 --> 03:11:01,040
WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT ONE

4677
03:11:01,040 --> 03:11:04,120
OF THE BIGGEST HURDLES REALLY IS

4678
03:11:04,120 --> 03:11:08,360
ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND

4679
03:11:08,360 --> 03:11:11,040
FORMING THOSE IN TWO STUDY

4680
03:11:11,040 --> 03:11:14,480
QUESTIONS AND I THINK THAT IS

4681
03:11:14,480 --> 03:11:18,320
MORE THAN JUST WHAT WE'RE SEEING

4682
03:11:18,320 --> 03:11:23,480
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.

4683
03:11:23,480 --> 03:11:26,040
THIS IS PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE

4684
03:11:26,040 --> 03:11:28,640
BOARD WE'RE ALL IN SOME RESPECTS

4685
03:11:28,640 --> 03:11:31,120
RACING AGAINST THE CLOCK TO TRY

4686
03:11:31,120 --> 03:11:34,480
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AD

4687
03:11:34,480 --> 03:11:37,360
VANCING THE SCIENCE,

4688
03:11:37,360 --> 03:11:39,320
UNDERSTANDING THE TOXICOLOGICAL

4689
03:11:39,320 --> 03:11:41,040
EFFECTS AND ESTABLISHING THE

4690
03:11:41,040 --> 03:11:45,000
RIGHT CLEANUP VALUES AND LEVELS

4691
03:11:45,000 --> 03:11:45,480
AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS

4692
03:11:45,480 --> 03:11:46,200
REMEDIATION AND DISPOSAL TECH

4693
03:11:46,200 --> 03:11:49,320
NOLOGIES TO ADDRESS THE

4694
03:11:49,320 --> 03:11:50,560
ISSUES.

4695
03:11:50,560 --> 03:11:54,000
I WILL HAVE TO SAY THIS HAS BEEN

4696
03:11:54,000 --> 03:11:59,760
PROBABLY THE MOST COLLABORATIVE

4697
03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:01,920
PROJECT I'VE EVER WORK ON.

4698
03:12:01,920 --> 03:12:03,640
AS A MATTER OF FACT I JUST GOT

4699
03:12:03,640 --> 03:12:05,360
OUT OF A MEETING A LITTLE BIT A

4700
03:12:05,360 --> 03:12:08,480
GO WHERE, GOSH, I GUESS MAYBE

4701
03:12:08,480 --> 03:12:10,360
13 OR 14 DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND

4702
03:12:10,360 --> 03:12:13,280
DEPARTMENTS WERE REPRESENTED ON

4703
03:12:13,280 --> 03:12:15,120
A TASKFORCE YOU KNOW CHARGED

4704
03:12:15,120 --> 03:12:17,120
WOULD TRYING TO IDENTIFY CLEANUP

4705
03:12:17,120 --> 03:12:21,320
AND DISPOSAL ALTERNATIVES FOR A

4706
03:12:21,320 --> 03:12:22,960
NATIONAL POLICY PERSPECTIVE OF

4707
03:12:22,960 --> 03:12:27,160
WHICH EPA IS A MAJOR PART OF.

4708
03:12:27,160 --> 03:12:29,040
AND YOU KNOW ALONG THOSE LINES

4709
03:12:29,040 --> 03:12:33,280
YOU KNOW IT IS NOT ONLY JUST AN

4710
03:12:33,280 --> 03:12:34,320
INNERAGENCY COLLABORATION EFFORT

4711
03:12:34,320 --> 03:12:36,480
THIS HAS BEEN ONE WHERE WE'VE

4712
03:12:36,480 --> 03:12:41,040
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO

4713
03:12:41,040 --> 03:12:42,160
OUR STATE REGULATORY PARTNERS AS

4714
03:12:42,160 --> 03:12:44,360
WELL AS THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS

4715
03:12:44,360 --> 03:12:47,040
, LOCAL COMMUNITY

4716
03:12:47,040 --> 03:12:49,320
LEADERS AND TRAVEL GOVERNMENTS.

4717
03:12:49,320 --> 03:12:53,680
THE INTEREST IS UBIQUITOUS.

4718
03:12:53,680 --> 03:12:55,280
NOW FIND BOOKS EVERYWHERE ACROSS

4719
03:12:55,280 --> 03:12:57,320
THE NATION WHO ARE HEARING

4720
03:12:57,320 --> 03:13:00,080
THINGS AND WANTING TO KNOW AND

4721
03:13:00,080 --> 03:13:03,680
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT BEEN ONE OF

4722
03:13:03,680 --> 03:13:07,240
POINTING FINGERS AND TRYING TO

4723
03:13:07,240 --> 03:13:10,680
ASSESS ANY KIND OF BLAME FOR

4724
03:13:10,680 --> 03:13:12,600
ANYTHING IT REALLY HAS BEEN A

4725
03:13:12,600 --> 03:13:13,440
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO TRY TO

4726
03:13:13,440 --> 03:13:18,160
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE FACING.

4727
03:13:18,160 --> 03:13:21,960
AND HOW TO SOLVE IT.

4728
03:13:21,960 --> 03:13:23,360
ACROSS THE BOARD WE'RE ALL

4729
03:13:23,360 --> 03:13:25,880
TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

4730
03:13:25,880 --> 03:13:28,920
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A

4731
03:13:28,920 --> 03:13:30,840
SENSE OF URGENCY IN TRYING TO

4732
03:13:30,840 --> 03:13:34,440
GET OUR ARMS AROUND WHAT WE'RE

4733
03:13:34,440 --> 03:13:36,840
FACED WITH, WHAT OUR INVENTORIES

4734
03:13:36,840 --> 03:13:38,200
ARE, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE

4735
03:13:38,200 --> 03:13:39,160
ENVIRONMENT AND HOW THAT MIGHT

4736
03:13:39,160 --> 03:13:43,480
BE IMPACTING OUR WORKFORCE AND

4737
03:13:43,480 --> 03:13:45,640
CERTAINLY THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES

4738
03:13:45,640 --> 03:13:50,840
THAT ARE AROUND OUR VARIOUS

4739
03:13:50,840 --> 03:13:51,040
SITES.

4740
03:13:51,040 --> 03:13:53,400
SO ALONG THOSE LINES THE DAOF

4741
03:13:53,400 --> 03:13:58,720
ENERGY HAS EMBARKED ON AN EFFORT

4742
03:13:58,720 --> 03:14:02,040
TO DO EXACTLY THAT.

4743
03:14:02,040 --> 03:14:04,120
TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY

4744
03:14:04,120 --> 03:14:07,720
WHAT'S IN PLAY TO GET A SENSE

4745
03:14:07,720 --> 03:14:12,040
AND HANDLE ON WHAT OUR CURRENT

4746
03:14:12,040 --> 03:14:15,040
INVENTORIES ARE AS WELL AS TO

4747
03:14:15,040 --> 03:14:16,600
TRY TO ESTABLISH SOME EARLY

4748
03:14:16,600 --> 03:14:21,360
POLICIES TO TRY TO MAKE SURE

4749
03:14:21,360 --> 03:14:23,840
THAT WE ARE BEING PROTECTIVE OF

4750
03:14:23,840 --> 03:14:24,880
HUMAN HEALTH ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

4751
03:14:24,880 --> 03:14:28,680
SO YOU'LL SEE IN THIS SLIDE A

4752
03:14:28,680 --> 03:14:31,480
COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT

4753
03:14:31,480 --> 03:14:34,800
WE'VE DONE TO THIS POINT, ONE IS

4754
03:14:34,800 --> 03:14:38,440
TO RELEASE A PFAS POLICY MEMO

4755
03:14:38,440 --> 03:14:39,240
FROM THE DEPUTY SECRETARY'S

4756
03:14:39,240 --> 03:14:39,960
OFFICE.

4757
03:14:39,960 --> 03:14:42,320
I'LL GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT

4758
03:14:42,320 --> 03:14:45,080
IN A MOMENT.

4759
03:14:45,080 --> 03:14:47,880
ANOTHER IS TO DEVELOP A PFAS

4760
03:14:47,880 --> 03:14:51,520
ROADMAP AND THIS IS BASED UPON

4761
03:14:51,520 --> 03:14:52,880
THE EPA ROADMAP.

4762
03:14:52,880 --> 03:14:57,400
IT IS TEMPLATED AFTER THAT, THE

4763
03:14:57,400 --> 03:15:01,360
INTENT IS TO ESTABLISH SOME NEAR

4764
03:15:01,360 --> 03:15:02,360
-TERM ACTIONS THE DEPARTMENT

4765
03:15:02,360 --> 03:15:05,280
CAN TAKE TO TRY TO YOU KNOW,

4766
03:15:05,280 --> 03:15:09,720
AGAIN TO BETTER ASSESS AND FORM

4767
03:15:09,720 --> 03:15:11,040
ULATE THE RIGHT STEPS TO

4768
03:15:11,040 --> 03:15:13,000
ADDRESS THE PFAS ISSUES.

4769
03:15:13,000 --> 03:15:16,880
THEN THE LAST THING THAT THE,

4770
03:15:16,880 --> 03:15:18,440
THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TODAY SA

4771
03:15:18,440 --> 03:15:20,280
PFAS SURVEY, A PRELIMINARY

4772
03:15:20,280 --> 03:15:22,360
SURVEY THAT WE EMBARKED ON IN

4773
03:15:22,360 --> 03:15:24,760
THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

4774
03:15:24,760 --> 03:15:28,960
INIC LOOIC AT ALL OF OUR SITES

4775
03:15:28,960 --> 03:15:31,280
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY

4776
03:15:31,280 --> 03:15:34,880
THAT HAVE PFAS EQUITIES JUST TO

4777
03:15:34,880 --> 03:15:36,880
GET A PRELIMINARY SENSE OF

4778
03:15:36,880 --> 03:15:39,960
EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF OPERATIONAL

4779
03:15:39,960 --> 03:15:41,480
USES WE'VE HAD AT THE DEPARTMENT

4780
03:15:41,480 --> 03:15:43,440
OF ENERGY.

4781
03:15:43,440 --> 03:15:47,080
SO LOOKING AT THE DEPUTY

4782
03:15:47,080 --> 03:15:49,960
SECRETARY'S MEMO, THERE WERE

4783
03:15:49,960 --> 03:15:53,040
REALLY FOUR KEY COMPONENTS TO

4784
03:15:53,040 --> 03:15:54,760
THIS, THE FIRST MAIN COMPONENT

4785
03:15:54,760 --> 03:16:00,520
OR THE FIRST MAIN POINT WAS TO

4786
03:16:00,520 --> 03:16:04,320
DISCONTINUE USE OF ALL AFFF OR

4787
03:16:04,320 --> 03:16:07,280
THE PFAS CONTAINING FIRE FIGHT

4788
03:16:07,280 --> 03:16:08,560
ING FOAMS, YOU KNOW, AT THE

4789
03:16:08,560 --> 03:16:08,880
DEPARTMENT.

4790
03:16:08,880 --> 03:16:14,280
AND THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE DIS

4791
03:16:14,280 --> 03:16:15,920
CONTINUED USE IN TRAINING

4792
03:16:15,920 --> 03:16:16,840
PURPOSES.

4793
03:16:16,840 --> 03:16:18,920
WE DO HAVE ACTIVE FIRE STATIONS

4794
03:16:18,920 --> 03:16:20,960
ON A NUMBER OF OUR SITES AND

4795
03:16:20,960 --> 03:16:27,360
WHERE WE HAVE AFFF CAPACITIES IN

4796
03:16:27,360 --> 03:16:28,080
THOSE FIRE DEPARTMENTS WE STILL

4797
03:16:28,080 --> 03:16:31,880
HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THOSE IN

4798
03:16:31,880 --> 03:16:35,040
THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, BUT IN

4799
03:16:35,040 --> 03:16:40,240
TERMS OF TRAINING OR ANY OTHER

4800
03:16:40,240 --> 03:16:41,480
PURPOSES THE DEPUTY SECRETARY

4801
03:16:41,480 --> 03:16:44,560
HAS ISSUED A POLICY THAT ALL OF

4802
03:16:44,560 --> 03:16:47,040
THOSE OTHER USEERIZE TO BE DIS

4803
03:16:47,040 --> 03:16:48,680
CONTINUED IMMEDIATELY AND

4804
03:16:48,680 --> 03:16:50,960
THIS MEMO WAS WRITTEN AS YOU'LL

4805
03:16:50,960 --> 03:16:52,440
SEE OR RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER OF

4806
03:16:52,440 --> 03:16:56,040
2021.

4807
03:16:56,040 --> 03:16:59,040
ALONG WITH THE DISCONTINUATION

4808
03:16:59,040 --> 03:17:04,240
OF USE ANY DISCHARGE FROM AN

4809
03:17:04,240 --> 03:17:07,160
EMERGENCY THAT WE WOULD REALIZE

4810
03:17:07,160 --> 03:17:09,320
WE WOULD NEED TO BE CONTAPED AND

4811
03:17:09,320 --> 03:17:13,760
COLLECTED TO THE MAXIMUM AND

4812
03:17:13,760 --> 03:17:15,200
CERTAINLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND

4813
03:17:15,200 --> 03:17:17,000
EXACTLY THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE

4814
03:17:17,000 --> 03:17:17,920
RELEASED THERE AND THE OTHER

4815
03:17:17,920 --> 03:17:21,720
PART IS TO ENSURE THAT ALL FIRE

4816
03:17:21,720 --> 03:17:24,840
PROTECTION PERSONNEL ARE

4817
03:17:24,840 --> 03:17:27,240
APPROPRIATELY EQUIP WOULD THE

4818
03:17:27,240 --> 03:17:28,160
PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT

4819
03:17:28,160 --> 03:17:34,280
GEARED TOWARDS THE AFFF.

4820
03:17:34,280 --> 03:17:37,320
THE SECOND MAIN POINT IN THE

4821
03:17:37,320 --> 03:17:38,480
DEPUTY SECRETARY'S MEMO IS FOCUS

4822
03:17:38,480 --> 03:17:41,360
ED ON STORAGE AND DISPOSAL.

4823
03:17:41,360 --> 03:17:44,720
WE ISSUED A MORATORIUM ON DIS

4824
03:17:44,720 --> 03:17:53,280
POSAL OF AFFF.

4825
03:17:53,280 --> 03:17:56,600
NOW EACH PROGRAM OFFICE HAS THE

4826
03:17:56,600 --> 03:17:58,920
AUTHORITY TO EVALUATE ON A

4827
03:17:58,920 --> 03:18:00,880
CASE-BY-CASE BASIS DISPOSAL.

4828
03:18:00,880 --> 03:18:04,080
SO ANY SITE THAT HAS PFAS

4829
03:18:04,080 --> 03:18:05,000
CONTAINING MATERIALS THAT ARE

4830
03:18:05,000 --> 03:18:09,280
SCHEDULED FOR DISPOSAL CAN BE

4831
03:18:09,280 --> 03:18:11,040
DISPOSE OF ONCE THEY GO THROUGH

4832
03:18:11,040 --> 03:18:17,800
THE APPROPRIATE APPROVAL METHODS

4833
03:18:17,800 --> 03:18:20,600
AND THE THIRD THING THAT THE

4834
03:18:20,600 --> 03:18:21,360
DEPUTY SECRETARY'S MEMO ADDRESS

4835
03:18:21,360 --> 03:18:22,160
ES IS REPORTING AND THIS

4836
03:18:22,160 --> 03:18:24,480
KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE FIRST

4837
03:18:24,480 --> 03:18:29,280
ONE AS WELL FOR ANY RELEASE OF

4838
03:18:29,280 --> 03:18:32,680
PFAS CONTAINING MATERIALS OR

4839
03:18:32,680 --> 03:18:35,000
WASTE IN THE ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE

4840
03:18:35,000 --> 03:18:39,360
TO REPORT THROUGH OUR OFFICIAL

4841
03:18:39,360 --> 03:18:43,120
CURRENT REPORTING SYSTEM, WHICH

4842
03:18:43,120 --> 03:18:46,280
HAS STATE, LOCAL HEADQUARTER

4843
03:18:46,280 --> 03:18:52,880
POINTS OF CONTACT THAT ARE TO BE

4844
03:18:52,880 --> 03:18:56,600
MAINTAINED, ANY RELEASE IS TO BE

4845
03:18:56,600 --> 03:18:57,520
CONTAINED, COLLECTED AND ALL OF

4846
03:18:57,520 --> 03:19:01,280
THAT INFORMATION IS TO BE REPORT

4847
03:19:01,280 --> 03:19:04,240
ED UP THROUGH THAT SYSTEM.

4848
03:19:04,240 --> 03:19:07,440
AND THEN THE LAST MAIN COMPONENT

4849
03:19:07,440 --> 03:19:09,280
OF THE DEPUTY SECRETARY'S MEMO

4850
03:19:09,280 --> 03:19:11,720
WAS THE FORMATION OF A PFAS

4851
03:19:11,720 --> 03:19:13,640
COORDINATING COMMITTEE WITHIN

4852
03:19:13,640 --> 03:19:16,080
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY MADE UP

4853
03:19:16,080 --> 03:19:17,440
OF SENIOR LEADERS WITHIN THE VAR

4854
03:19:17,440 --> 03:19:22,320
IOUS PROGRAM OFFICES AND THIS

4855
03:19:22,320 --> 03:19:25,160
IS TO ESTABLISH THE GUIDE

4856
03:19:25,160 --> 03:19:27,520
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MEMO TO

4857
03:19:27,520 --> 03:19:29,400
EVALUATE WHAT ADDITIONAL

4858
03:19:29,400 --> 03:19:30,680
POLICIES MIGHT NEED TO BE PUT

4859
03:19:30,680 --> 03:19:34,440
INTO EFFECT TO ENSURE THE

4860
03:19:34,440 --> 03:19:35,440
APPROPRIATE PROTECTION OF HUMAN

4861
03:19:35,440 --> 03:19:42,880
HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

4862
03:19:42,880 --> 03:19:44,520
NOW WITH THE PFAS COORDINATING

4863
03:19:44,520 --> 03:19:49,640
COMMITTEE OR THE PCC WE HAVE A

4864
03:19:49,640 --> 03:19:51,400
PRIMARY MISSION TO TRACK

4865
03:19:51,400 --> 03:19:53,680
PROGRESS IN MEETING THE

4866
03:19:53,680 --> 03:19:54,280
REQUIREMENTS IDENTIFIED IN THE

4867
03:19:54,280 --> 03:19:57,000
POLICY TO IDENTIFY NECESSARY

4868
03:19:57,000 --> 03:19:59,280
CHANGES TO DEPARTMENTAL ORDERS,

4869
03:19:59,280 --> 03:20:01,280
DIRECTIVES OR REGULATIONS TO A

4870
03:20:01,280 --> 03:20:03,360
CHIEVE POLICY OBJECTIVES AND

4871
03:20:03,360 --> 03:20:04,720
INITIATIVE COORDINATION WITHIN

4872
03:20:04,720 --> 03:20:07,040
OUR DIRECTOR REVIEW BOARD TO

4873
03:20:07,040 --> 03:20:08,040
IMPLEMENT NECESSARY CHANGES.

4874
03:20:08,040 --> 03:20:10,200
ALL OF THAT TO SAY THIS

4875
03:20:10,200 --> 03:20:11,040
COORDINATING COMMITTEE REALLY

4876
03:20:11,040 --> 03:20:15,560
COORDINATES ACROSS ALL OF THE

4877
03:20:15,560 --> 03:20:19,040
VARIOUS OFFICES YOU KNOW WITHIN

4878
03:20:19,040 --> 03:20:20,720
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, IT IS

4879
03:20:20,720 --> 03:20:22,200
TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ASK

4880
03:20:22,200 --> 03:20:23,040
ING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.

4881
03:20:23,040 --> 03:20:25,000
IT IS MAKING SURE THAT THE

4882
03:20:25,000 --> 03:20:28,960
POLICIES THAT ARE IN EFFECT ARE

4883
03:20:28,960 --> 03:20:31,040
BEING EFFECTIVE.

4884
03:20:31,040 --> 03:20:32,600
THAT IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES

4885
03:20:32,600 --> 03:20:35,120
THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO

4886
03:20:35,120 --> 03:20:37,640
DEPARTMENTAL DIRECTIVES THIS

4887
03:20:37,640 --> 03:20:41,040
BODY WOULD INITIATE THOSE ACTION

4888
03:20:41,040 --> 03:20:42,560
S AND ENSURE THAT ALL OF

4889
03:20:42,560 --> 03:20:48,960
THOSE CHANGES ARE CONSISTENT AND

4890
03:20:48,960 --> 03:20:49,600
APPROPRIATE WITH ALL OF THE VAR

4891
03:20:49,600 --> 03:20:55,120
IOUS RULES AND REGULATIONS.

4892
03:20:55,120 --> 03:20:56,560
THE PCC HAS FOUR DIFFERENT TASK

4893
03:20:56,560 --> 03:21:04,280
TEAMS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FOCUSES

4894
03:21:04,280 --> 03:21:06,880
THE FIRST ONE IS AN OPERATIONAL

4895
03:21:06,880 --> 03:21:07,400
TASK TEAM.

4896
03:21:07,400 --> 03:21:10,640
THAT TASK TEAM IS CHARTED WITH

4897
03:21:10,640 --> 03:21:12,520
ADDRESSING ANY PFAS RELATED

4898
03:21:12,520 --> 03:21:14,120
QUESTIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT,

4899
03:21:14,120 --> 03:21:17,040
IT IS ALSO TO DEVELOP RESPONSES

4900
03:21:17,040 --> 03:21:17,680
AS OPERATIONAL EXPERIENCE

4901
03:21:17,680 --> 03:21:23,040
DOCUMENTS ARE PUBLISHED.

4902
03:21:23,040 --> 03:21:27,760
THE HISTORIC USE TEAM IS TASKED

4903
03:21:27,760 --> 03:21:29,880
WITH LOOKING AT DEVELOPING A

4904
03:21:29,880 --> 03:21:31,680
GUIDE FOR COMPREHENSIVE SITE

4905
03:21:31,680 --> 03:21:33,640
EVALUATIONS AND RISK ASSESSMENTS

4906
03:21:33,640 --> 03:21:36,240
UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU KNOW

4907
03:21:36,240 --> 03:21:39,120
THERE IS SOME DOCUMENTATION ON

4908
03:21:39,120 --> 03:21:40,080
HISTORICAL USES BUT WE WANT TO

4909
03:21:40,080 --> 03:21:42,480
MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW WE ARE

4910
03:21:42,480 --> 03:21:44,600
BEING THOROUGH IN UNDERSTANDING

4911
03:21:44,600 --> 03:21:46,920
WHAT AND WHERE AND WHEN PFAS

4912
03:21:46,920 --> 03:21:49,360
MIGHT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED INTO

4913
03:21:49,360 --> 03:21:51,000
THE VARIOUS OPERATIONS OF THE

4914
03:21:51,000 --> 03:21:52,320
DEPARTMENT.

4915
03:21:52,320 --> 03:21:57,360
THE NEXT ONE IS THE NATIONAL LAB

4916
03:21:57,360 --> 03:22:02,560
HIGH VALUE TASK TEAM AND THIS

4917
03:22:02,560 --> 03:22:03,920
TASK TEAM IS CHALLENGE WOULD TRY

4918
03:22:03,920 --> 03:22:07,440
ING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE

4919
03:22:07,440 --> 03:22:11,160
FULL FORCE OF THE NATIONAL

4920
03:22:11,160 --> 03:22:12,600
LABORATORY NETWORK BROUGHT TO

4921
03:22:12,600 --> 03:22:15,560
BARE TO BE ABLE TO RESEARCH THE

4922
03:22:15,560 --> 03:22:17,040
VARIOUS OPTIONS AND ALTERNATIVES

4923
03:22:17,040 --> 03:22:24,520
WITHIN THE PFAS PROGRAM.

4924
03:22:24,520 --> 03:22:25,520
AND THEN THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM

4925
03:22:25,520 --> 03:22:27,960
IS EXACTLY THAT, IT IS A

4926
03:22:27,960 --> 03:22:31,080
COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, IT IS

4927
03:22:31,080 --> 03:22:33,320
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE

4928
03:22:33,320 --> 03:22:34,760
CONSISTENT MASSAGING ACROSS THE

4929
03:22:34,760 --> 03:22:36,880
DEPARTMENT, THAT WE ARE

4930
03:22:36,880 --> 03:22:39,040
DEVELOPING THE RIGHT EDUCATIONAL

4931
03:22:39,040 --> 03:22:41,360
TOOLS, THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR

4932
03:22:41,360 --> 03:22:44,120
OPPORTUNITIES TO LISTEN AND TO

4933
03:22:44,120 --> 03:22:45,600
ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITIES,

4934
03:22:45,600 --> 03:22:48,040
STAKEHOLDERS AND TRIBES AND REG

4935
03:22:48,040 --> 03:22:49,400
ULATORS, TO ENSURE THAT WE DO

4936
03:22:49,400 --> 03:22:53,040
HAVE A FULLY TRANSPARENT AND

4937
03:22:53,040 --> 03:22:55,560
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO THE VERY

4938
03:22:55,560 --> 03:22:58,720
BEST THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.

4939
03:22:58,720 --> 03:23:04,280
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE FOUR COM

4940
03:23:04,280 --> 03:23:07,080
PONENTS THERE OF THE PCC IS

4941
03:23:07,080 --> 03:23:07,720
TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN

4942
03:23:07,720 --> 03:23:12,360
THE LABS TO CLARIFY RESOURCES TO

4943
03:23:12,360 --> 03:23:14,680
SERVE AS A MANAGEMENT LEVEL

4944
03:23:14,680 --> 03:23:17,640
COUNTERPART TO OUR WORKING GROUP

4945
03:23:17,640 --> 03:23:19,600
AND TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND

4946
03:23:19,600 --> 03:23:20,280
INTERPRETATIONS ON ASPECTS OF

4947
03:23:20,280 --> 03:23:25,920
THE POLICY.

4948
03:23:25,920 --> 03:23:33,040
NEXT, WE HAVE OUR PFAS ROADMAP

4949
03:23:33,040 --> 03:23:34,680
AND AGAIN THIS IS MODELED AFTER

4950
03:23:34,680 --> 03:23:37,000
THE EPA ROADMAP RELEASED IN 2020

4951
03:23:37,000 --> 03:23:42,280
, I BELIEVE, AND OUR ROADMAP

4952
03:23:42,280 --> 03:23:45,760
IS FOUNDATIONALLY BASED ON FOUR

4953
03:23:45,760 --> 03:23:46,000
PILLARS.

4954
03:23:46,000 --> 03:23:48,880
IT IS BASED ON UNDERSTANDING THE

4955
03:23:48,880 --> 03:23:51,880
USAGES AT THE SITES, IT IS FOCUS

4956
03:23:51,880 --> 03:23:53,880
ED ON MANAGING AND PROTECT

4957
03:23:53,880 --> 03:23:56,760
ING OUR EMPLOYEES, THE

4958
03:23:56,760 --> 03:23:58,280
PUBLIC AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

4959
03:23:58,280 --> 03:24:01,360
IT IS FOCUSED ON IDENTIFYING

4960
03:24:01,360 --> 03:24:04,000
SOLUTIONS AND COMMUNICATING AND

4961
03:24:04,000 --> 03:24:08,600
COLLABORATING.

4962
03:24:08,600 --> 03:24:11,560
THE PILLARS ARE SERVING AS OUR

4963
03:24:11,560 --> 03:24:12,840
FOUNDATION FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING

4964
03:24:12,840 --> 03:24:14,840
TO DO.

4965
03:24:14,840 --> 03:24:16,760
THE REALLY THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF

4966
03:24:16,760 --> 03:24:18,280
IT YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE PILLARS

4967
03:24:18,280 --> 03:24:21,160
LEAD TO GOALS, THAT LEAD TO

4968
03:24:21,160 --> 03:24:27,160
OBJECTIVES, THAT LEAD TO ACTIONS

4969
03:24:27,160 --> 03:24:29,000
THE CRUX OF ALL OF THIS IS HOW

4970
03:24:29,000 --> 03:24:30,960
DO WE GET TO THOSE ACTIONS,

4971
03:24:30,960 --> 03:24:32,680
IDENTIFYING WHAT THOSE STEPS ARE

4972
03:24:32,680 --> 03:24:35,120
, MAKING SURE THEY ARE

4973
03:24:35,120 --> 03:24:37,360
INTENTIONAL, THAT THEY ARE BASED

4974
03:24:37,360 --> 03:24:41,200
ON MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE

4975
03:24:41,200 --> 03:24:42,280
SITES, IT IS ENSURING THAT WE

4976
03:24:42,280 --> 03:24:45,240
HAVE THE RIGHTPANSIONS

4977
03:24:45,240 --> 03:24:48,800
IDENTIFIED -- RIGHT ACTIONS

4978
03:24:48,800 --> 03:24:50,280
IDENTIFIED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES

4979
03:24:50,280 --> 03:24:52,320
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

4980
03:24:52,320 --> 03:24:55,520
PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKS AT

4981
03:24:55,520 --> 03:24:56,880
WHAT POLICIES WE NEED TO PUSH

4982
03:24:56,880 --> 03:25:00,600
FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, PART OF

4983
03:25:00,600 --> 03:25:03,160
THAT IS LOOKING AT WHAT RESEARCH

4984
03:25:03,160 --> 03:25:03,880
AND DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES THAT

4985
03:25:03,880 --> 03:25:09,360
WE NEED TO TAKE, IT IS WHERE AND

4986
03:25:09,360 --> 03:25:12,400
HOW WE CAN ENGAGE WITH PRIVATE

4987
03:25:12,400 --> 03:25:14,520
INDUSTRY, WITH OUR CONTRACTING

4988
03:25:14,520 --> 03:25:16,560
PARTNERS, WITH OTHER FEDERAL

4989
03:25:16,560 --> 03:25:20,680
AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

4990
03:25:20,680 --> 03:25:22,880
ARE BUILDING OFF THE GOOD WORK

4991
03:25:22,880 --> 03:25:25,480
THAT OTHERS HAVE DONE AS WELL AS

4992
03:25:25,480 --> 03:25:27,640
BRICKING TO BARE OUR OWN

4993
03:25:27,640 --> 03:25:33,840
EXPERTISE AND EFFORTS.

4994
03:25:33,840 --> 03:25:36,360
THE NEXT PART OF WHAT WE'RE WORK

4995
03:25:36,360 --> 03:25:42,440
ING ON IS THIS PFAS SURVEY.

4996
03:25:42,440 --> 03:25:43,640
AND AGAIN IT REALLY KIND OF CAME

4997
03:25:43,640 --> 03:25:47,000
DOWN TO ASKING THE RIGHT

4998
03:25:47,000 --> 03:25:47,280
QUESTIONS.

4999
03:25:47,280 --> 03:25:49,360
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE DIDN'T

5000
03:25:49,360 --> 03:25:51,000
KNOW.

5001
03:25:51,000 --> 03:25:52,680
WE NEEDED TO TRY TO GET OUR

5002
03:25:52,680 --> 03:25:57,560
HANDS AROUND WHERE PFAS WAS USED

5003
03:25:57,560 --> 03:26:01,120
WITHIN OUR OPERATIONS LOOKING

5004
03:26:01,120 --> 03:26:03,640
ALT EXISTING DATA THAT HAD BEEN

5005
03:26:03,640 --> 03:26:05,080
COLLECTED THROUGH SAMPLING

5006
03:26:05,080 --> 03:26:06,280
UP-TO-DATE.

5007
03:26:06,280 --> 03:26:09,320
SO WE ENGAGED ALL OF THE OFFICES

5008
03:26:09,320 --> 03:26:13,880
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY

5009
03:26:13,880 --> 03:26:14,960
TO CONDUCT PRELIMINARY ASSESS

5010
03:26:14,960 --> 03:26:17,080
MENT OF EXACTLY WHAT THAT

5011
03:26:17,080 --> 03:26:17,400
IS.

5012
03:26:17,400 --> 03:26:20,120
WHAT INVENTORIES, WHAT USAGES,

5013
03:26:20,120 --> 03:26:21,720
WHAT EXISTING DATA DO WE HAVE.

5014
03:26:21,720 --> 03:26:27,600
THE SURVEY OBJECTIVE FOCUSED ON

5015
03:26:27,600 --> 03:26:28,440
HISTORICAL USAGE, POTENTIAL

5016
03:26:28,440 --> 03:26:32,920
SOURCES AND INVENTORIES, WE WANT

5017
03:26:32,920 --> 03:26:33,480
ED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IM

5018
03:26:33,480 --> 03:26:37,280
PACTS TO DRINKING WATER WE

5019
03:26:37,280 --> 03:26:37,960
MIGHT HAVE.

5020
03:26:37,960 --> 03:26:42,240
WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT REG

5021
03:26:42,240 --> 03:26:44,840
ULATORY OR OTHER STAKEHOLDER

5022
03:26:44,840 --> 03:26:46,640
INQUIRIES WE RECEIVED TO DATE,

5023
03:26:46,640 --> 03:26:47,840
WHAT DETECTIONS IN THE

5024
03:26:47,840 --> 03:26:49,320
ENVIRONMENT WE'VE HAD.

5025
03:26:49,320 --> 03:26:51,480
WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHO WAS

5026
03:26:51,480 --> 03:26:55,520
DOING ANY ROUTINE MONITORING FOR

5027
03:26:55,520 --> 03:26:59,040
PFAS AND ANY POTENTIAL OR KNOWN

5028
03:26:59,040 --> 03:27:00,680
OFFSITE MIGRATION.

5029
03:27:00,680 --> 03:27:03,880
SO THE AGAIN THE SURVEY FOCUSED

5030
03:27:03,880 --> 03:27:06,880
ON TRYING TO ANSWER AND FILL

5031
03:27:06,880 --> 03:27:10,440
DATA GAPS AROUND THOSE MAIN

5032
03:27:10,440 --> 03:27:10,680
QUESTIONS.

5033
03:27:10,680 --> 03:27:12,520
THE PFAS COORDINATING COMMITTEE

5034
03:27:12,520 --> 03:27:15,360
RIGHT NOW IS PREPARING A

5035
03:27:15,360 --> 03:27:18,160
DEPARTMENT-WIDE REPORT TO

5036
03:27:18,160 --> 03:27:21,280
SUMMARIZE ALL OF THE INFORMATION

5037
03:27:21,280 --> 03:27:22,520
FROM THOSE EFFORTS.

5038
03:27:22,520 --> 03:27:24,680
I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN

5039
03:27:24,680 --> 03:27:26,040
SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN GETTING

5040
03:27:26,040 --> 03:27:28,640
THAT REPORT, GETTING THAT REPORT

5041
03:27:28,640 --> 03:27:28,800
OUT.

5042
03:27:28,800 --> 03:27:33,280
WE ARE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO

5043
03:27:33,280 --> 03:27:33,880
THAT WORKING WITH THE WHITE

5044
03:27:33,880 --> 03:27:38,240
HOUSE TO TRY TO COORDINATE

5045
03:27:38,240 --> 03:27:41,320
RELEASE OF SURVEY REPORT AND

5046
03:27:41,320 --> 03:27:43,880
ROADMAP ALONG THE SAME LINE,

5047
03:27:43,880 --> 03:27:45,320
ALONG THE SAME TIMELINE AS WELL

5048
03:27:45,320 --> 03:27:47,120
AS MAKING SURE THAT WE SET UP

5049
03:27:47,120 --> 03:27:51,520
THE RIGHT COMMUNICATIONS AVENUES

5050
03:27:51,520 --> 03:27:55,040
TO BE ABLE TO ROLL ALL OF THOSE

5051
03:27:55,040 --> 03:27:59,000
OUT AND SPEAK TO YOU KNOW THE

5052
03:27:59,000 --> 03:28:02,080
RESULTS FROM THOSE WITH ALL OF

5053
03:28:02,080 --> 03:28:03,080
OUR INTERESTED PARTIES.

5054
03:28:03,080 --> 03:28:07,360
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BETTER

5055
03:28:07,360 --> 03:28:08,760
IDEA OF KIND OF THE THINGS THAT

5056
03:28:08,760 --> 03:28:12,200
WE WERE LOOKING AT THE

5057
03:28:12,200 --> 03:28:12,840
ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT OFFICE,

5058
03:28:12,840 --> 03:28:15,200
WHICH IS THE OFFICE THAT I WORK

5059
03:28:15,200 --> 03:28:17,000
IN, THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF

5060
03:28:17,000 --> 03:28:18,240
KIND OF WHAT WE DID.

5061
03:28:18,240 --> 03:28:23,560
WE HAVE 16 SITES IN OUR PROGRAM

5062
03:28:23,560 --> 03:28:25,720
FOUR OF THOSE SITES ARE SHARED

5063
03:28:25,720 --> 03:28:28,760
WITH OTHER PROGRAM OFFICES LIKE

5064
03:28:28,760 --> 03:28:31,960
THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE AND SO

5065
03:28:31,960 --> 03:28:34,080
FOUR OF THOSE SITES WERE BEING

5066
03:28:34,080 --> 03:28:35,880
ADDRESSED BY A DIFFERENT PROGRAM

5067
03:28:35,880 --> 03:28:36,280
OFFICE.

5068
03:28:36,280 --> 03:28:39,080
SO OUR SURVEY FOCUSED ON THE 12

5069
03:28:39,080 --> 03:28:41,000
SITES WHERE WE HAD, WHERE WE

5070
03:28:41,000 --> 03:28:45,320
WERE THE PRIMARY PROGRAM OFFICE.

5071
03:28:45,320 --> 03:28:48,200
THE SURVEYOR RESULTS INFORMED

5072
03:28:48,200 --> 03:28:51,880
THE PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT.

5073
03:28:51,880 --> 03:28:54,600
YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAD DETECTED

5074
03:28:54,600 --> 03:28:57,480
PFAS AND ENVIRONMENTAL MEDIA,

5075
03:28:57,480 --> 03:28:58,720
PARTICULARLY IN GROUND WATER AT

5076
03:28:58,720 --> 03:29:04,200
SOME OF OUR SITES.

5077
03:29:04,200 --> 03:29:09,280
WE HAVE A MIXED BAG OF FIRE

5078
03:29:09,280 --> 03:29:11,000
DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE YOU KNOW

5079
03:29:11,000 --> 03:29:14,480
THE AFFF IN THE FIRE FIGHTING

5080
03:29:14,480 --> 03:29:15,600
FOAMS.

5081
03:29:15,600 --> 03:29:19,320
WE HAVE NO INDICATION THAT THERE

5082
03:29:19,320 --> 03:29:20,960
IS ANY PFAS IN DRINKING WATER AT

5083
03:29:20,960 --> 03:29:22,240
THIS TIME BASED ON THE

5084
03:29:22,240 --> 03:29:27,760
PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT.

5085
03:29:27,760 --> 03:29:30,080
WE DO KNOW THERE IS A NUMBER OF

5086
03:29:30,080 --> 03:29:32,080
DATA GAPS THAT EXIST AS WELL,

5087
03:29:32,080 --> 03:29:34,680
AGAIN THIS IS A PRELIMINARY

5088
03:29:34,680 --> 03:29:35,480
ASSESSMENT SO PART OF BUILDING

5089
03:29:35,480 --> 03:29:36,800
INTO THE FUTURE AND WHAT WE'LL

5090
03:29:36,800 --> 03:29:41,440
SEE IN THE ROADMAP IS THAT YOU

5091
03:29:41,440 --> 03:29:43,400
KNOW THOSE DATA GAPS SEEM TO BE

5092
03:29:43,400 --> 03:29:44,560
FILLED AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE

5093
03:29:44,560 --> 03:29:46,840
THAT WE ARE BEING INTENTIONAL

5094
03:29:46,840 --> 03:29:50,680
ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT AND

5095
03:29:50,680 --> 03:29:53,560
CERTAINLY WE'LL FOLLOWING FOLLOW

5096
03:29:53,560 --> 03:29:58,000
THE APPROPRIATE PROCESSES LAID

5097
03:29:58,000 --> 03:30:01,000
OUT IN OTHER REGULATORY FRAME

5098
03:30:01,000 --> 03:30:02,000
WORKS, PARTNERING AT THE

5099
03:30:02,000 --> 03:30:02,840
SITES WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES

5100
03:30:02,840 --> 03:30:04,080
AND THE REGULATORS AND THE TRIBE

5101
03:30:04,080 --> 03:30:07,160
S AND OTHERS AS WE NORMALLY

5102
03:30:07,160 --> 03:30:11,840
DO.

5103
03:30:11,840 --> 03:30:13,640
AGAIN, PART OF WHAT WE'LL SEE

5104
03:30:13,640 --> 03:30:15,160
OUT OF THIS INITIAL SURVEY THAT

5105
03:30:15,160 --> 03:30:17,520
COMES OUT WILL BE THAT THERE ARE

5106
03:30:17,520 --> 03:30:20,960
QUESTIONS, MORE QUESTIONS THAT

5107
03:30:20,960 --> 03:30:22,080
NEED TO BE ANSWERED AND THE ROAD

5108
03:30:22,080 --> 03:30:23,440
MAP WILL HELP TO BRIDGE THAT

5109
03:30:23,440 --> 03:30:29,000
GAP AS TO HOW THOSE DATA GAPS

5110
03:30:29,000 --> 03:30:29,720
WILL BE BUILT.

5111
03:30:29,720 --> 03:30:31,800
AND THEN KIND OF LEADING INTO

5112
03:30:31,800 --> 03:30:37,000
THIS, TO MY LAST SLIDE, THE NEXT

5113
03:30:37,000 --> 03:30:37,280
STEPS.

5114
03:30:37,280 --> 03:30:39,040
THE FIRST THING IS FOR US TO

5115
03:30:39,040 --> 03:30:40,960
ISSUE THE ROADMAP AND

5116
03:30:40,960 --> 03:30:43,560
PRELIMINARY PFAS ASSESSMENT

5117
03:30:43,560 --> 03:30:44,480
REPORT.

5118
03:30:44,480 --> 03:30:49,360
BEYOND THAT IS MOVING RIGHT INTO

5119
03:30:49,360 --> 03:30:51,280
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ROAD

5120
03:30:51,280 --> 03:30:53,600
MAP, UNDERSTANDING,

5121
03:30:53,600 --> 03:30:55,080
GATHERING AND MAKING SURE WE CAN

5122
03:30:55,080 --> 03:30:56,960
FILL THOSE DATA GAPS.

5123
03:30:56,960 --> 03:30:57,840
MANAGING AND PROTECTING, TAKING

5124
03:30:57,840 --> 03:30:59,960
THE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT

5125
03:30:59,960 --> 03:31:01,360
WE'RE PROTECTING OUR WORKFORCE.

5126
03:31:01,360 --> 03:31:03,880
THE PUBLIC, THE ENVIRONMENT.

5127
03:31:03,880 --> 03:31:07,040
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE

5128
03:31:07,040 --> 03:31:08,040
LEVERAGINGING THE RESOURCE NOT

5129
03:31:08,040 --> 03:31:09,480
ONLY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF

5130
03:31:09,480 --> 03:31:15,000
ENERGY BUT WITHIN THE INTER

5131
03:31:15,000 --> 03:31:16,480
AGENCY, WITHIN THE FEDERAL

5132
03:31:16,480 --> 03:31:18,840
AGENCY, WITH OUR STATES,

5133
03:31:18,840 --> 03:31:19,480
INDUSTRIAL PARTNERS ET CETERA. 

5134
03:31:19,480 --> 03:31:21,560
AND THEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE

5135
03:31:21,560 --> 03:31:23,040
ARE COMMUNICATING AND

5136
03:31:23,040 --> 03:31:24,880
COLLABORATING BROADLY WITH ALL

5137
03:31:24,880 --> 03:31:25,960
OF OUR VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, AND

5138
03:31:25,960 --> 03:31:27,680
THIS IS NOT JUST INFORMING OF

5139
03:31:27,680 --> 03:31:33,680
WHAT WE KNOW, THAT'S APART OF IT

5140
03:31:33,680 --> 03:31:35,200
BUT THE BIGGER PART IS INIGE GA

5141
03:31:35,200 --> 03:31:36,880
ING IN THE DIALOGUE AND WE

5142
03:31:36,880 --> 03:31:38,680
NEED THAT TO BE TWO WAYS SO THAT

5143
03:31:38,680 --> 03:31:42,880
WE'RE BOTH SHARING AND RECEIVING

5144
03:31:42,880 --> 03:31:44,320
INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH AND

5145
03:31:44,320 --> 03:31:46,280
THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN A WINNING

5146
03:31:46,280 --> 03:31:47,480
FORMULA FOR US COMING UP TO THIS

5147
03:31:47,480 --> 03:31:50,880
POINT AND CERTAINLY WHAT I SEE

5148
03:31:50,880 --> 03:31:53,040
HERE TODAY TRYING TO GET OUR ARM

5149
03:31:53,040 --> 03:31:56,520
S AROUND HOW WE'RE GOING TO

5150
03:31:56,520 --> 03:31:57,320
ADDRESS THESE ISSUES MOVING FOR

5151
03:31:57,320 --> 03:32:00,520
WARD.

5152
03:32:00,520 --> 03:32:01,920
AND WITH THAT I THINK JAMES THAT

5153
03:32:01,920 --> 03:32:08,440
IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

5154
03:32:08,440 --> 03:32:12,240
>> JAMES: THANKS A LOT, ROB.

5155
03:32:12,240 --> 03:32:14,080
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

5156
03:32:14,080 --> 03:32:14,480
>> YES.

5157
03:32:14,480 --> 03:32:15,480
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

5158
03:32:15,480 --> 03:32:17,440
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY QUESTIONS

5159
03:32:17,440 --> 03:32:18,080
COME UP YET.

5160
03:32:18,080 --> 03:32:19,840
WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE MORE

5161
03:32:19,840 --> 03:32:20,920
MINUTES BEFORE THE END OF THIS

5162
03:32:20,920 --> 03:32:22,880
TRACK IF YOU WANT TO HANG ON AND

5163
03:32:22,880 --> 03:32:25,320
SEE IF ANY COME THROUGH WITHIN

5164
03:32:25,320 --> 03:32:27,480
THE NEXT MINUTE.

5165
03:32:27,480 --> 03:32:29,080
>> ROB: SURE.

5166
03:32:29,080 --> 03:32:29,320
HAPPY TO.

5167
03:32:29,320 --> 03:32:31,440
>> WHILE WE'RE WAITING THERE WAS

5168
03:32:31,440 --> 03:32:32,760
ONE MORE QUESTION FOR DR. BURDEN

5169
03:32:32,760 --> 03:32:35,880
IF YOU'RE STILL ON.

5170
03:32:35,880 --> 03:32:36,520
>> I'M HERE.

5171
03:32:36,520 --> 03:32:37,160
>> OKAY GREAT.

5172
03:32:37,160 --> 03:32:38,120
ONE MORE QUESTION THAT CAME

5173
03:32:38,120 --> 03:32:39,440
THROUGH WHILE I'M CHECKING THE

5174
03:32:39,440 --> 03:32:39,760
OTHERS.

5175
03:32:39,760 --> 03:32:43,840
HOW ARE STUDIES CONSIDERING

5176
03:32:43,840 --> 03:32:45,080
METHOD DETECTION LIMITS AND

5177
03:32:45,080 --> 03:32:47,680
CAPABILITY OF TECHNOLOGY TO MEET

5178
03:32:47,680 --> 03:32:49,000
POTENTIAL ACTION LIMITS?

5179
03:32:49,000 --> 03:32:50,840
>> SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND

5180
03:32:50,840 --> 03:32:53,720
I THINK IT IS IN SOME WAYS A

5181
03:32:53,720 --> 03:32:56,840
CHICKEN AND AN EGG THING.

5182
03:32:56,840 --> 03:33:00,880
SO FOR MOST CASES WE DON'T HAVE

5183
03:33:00,880 --> 03:33:02,360
ACTION LIMITS OR SOME KIND OF,

5184
03:33:02,360 --> 03:33:04,360
YOU KNOW, TRIGGER LEVELS, IF YOU

5185
03:33:04,360 --> 03:33:09,320
WANT TO CALL THEM THAT FOR MANY

5186
03:33:09,320 --> 03:33:10,600
PFAS.

5187
03:33:10,600 --> 03:33:11,880
IN THOSE CASES WE ARE TRYING TO

5188
03:33:11,880 --> 03:33:15,880
USE THE DETECTION LIMITS THAT WE

5189
03:33:15,880 --> 03:33:17,800
HAVE FOR THE METHODS, WE ARE

5190
03:33:17,800 --> 03:33:21,160
TRYING TO GO AS LOW AS WE CAN.

5191
03:33:21,160 --> 03:33:23,080
AND AS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT

5192
03:33:23,080 --> 03:33:24,320
DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES REALLY

5193
03:33:24,320 --> 03:33:26,240
WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED AT LOOKING AT

5194
03:33:26,240 --> 03:33:28,880
, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE METHODS

5195
03:33:28,880 --> 03:33:30,400
THAT WE HAVE HOW EFFECTIVE ARE

5196
03:33:30,400 --> 03:33:32,760
THESE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES AT

5197
03:33:32,760 --> 03:33:35,200
REMOVING PFAS OR DESTROYING PFAS

5198
03:33:35,200 --> 03:33:36,920
AND SO I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS

5199
03:33:36,920 --> 03:33:40,440
ON THE SCENARIO, YOU KNOW, AS

5200
03:33:40,440 --> 03:33:42,040
ACTION LIMITS ARE DEVELOPED AND

5201
03:33:42,040 --> 03:33:44,840
COME INTO PLAY THAT WILL LIKELY

5202
03:33:44,840 --> 03:33:48,280
CAUSE US TO RE-LOOK AT SOME OF

5203
03:33:48,280 --> 03:33:50,320
THESE METHODS TO SEE, YOU KNOW,

5204
03:33:50,320 --> 03:33:51,600
ARE THE DETECTION LIMITS THAT

5205
03:33:51,600 --> 03:33:56,080
ARE AVAILABLE CURRENTLY LOW

5206
03:33:56,080 --> 03:33:56,280
ENOUGH.

5207
03:33:56,280 --> 03:33:57,880
DO THEY MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE

5208
03:33:57,880 --> 03:34:02,120
ACTION LIMITS AND IF THEY DON'T

5209
03:34:02,120 --> 03:34:02,760
THEN DO WE THINK WE CAN BE IN A

5210
03:34:02,760 --> 03:34:05,800
POSITION TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.

5211
03:34:05,800 --> 03:34:07,200
THERE MIGHT JUST BE SOME IN

5212
03:34:07,200 --> 03:34:10,640
STANCES WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY

5213
03:34:10,640 --> 03:34:12,320
AND ANALYTICAL METHODS IS JUST

5214
03:34:12,320 --> 03:34:13,320
NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS POINT IN

5215
03:34:13,320 --> 03:34:15,040
TIME SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO,

5216
03:34:15,040 --> 03:34:17,080
IT IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT

5217
03:34:17,080 --> 03:34:22,120
OF A GIVE-AND-TAKE SITUATION.

5218
03:34:22,120 --> 03:34:24,480
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER.

5219
03:34:24,480 --> 03:34:26,840
ROB I'M NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS

5220
03:34:26,840 --> 03:34:27,160
COME THROUGH.

5221
03:34:27,160 --> 03:34:29,360
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

5222
03:34:29,360 --> 03:34:32,960
PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

5223
03:34:32,960 --> 03:34:33,480
>> THANK YOU.

5224
03:34:33,480 --> 03:34:35,040
NO PROBLEM.

5225
03:34:35,040 --> 03:34:36,280
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE

5226
03:34:36,280 --> 03:34:39,480
THING, IT KIND OF TIES SUSAN AND

5227
03:34:39,480 --> 03:34:40,720
ROB'S PRESENTATIONS TOGETHER,

5228
03:34:40,720 --> 03:34:44,680
WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, THE

5229
03:34:44,680 --> 03:34:45,800
MERGING CONTAMINANTS AND MAYBE

5230
03:34:45,800 --> 03:34:49,400
THIS IS GOING TO CLOSE

5231
03:34:49,400 --> 03:34:50,920
EVERYTHING OUT FOR THE TRACK

5232
03:34:50,920 --> 03:34:56,160
THAT THERE IS JUST SO MUCH MORE

5233
03:34:56,160 --> 03:34:57,360
TECHNOLOGY AND RESEARCH THAT

5234
03:34:57,360 --> 03:35:01,320
NEEDS TO BE DONE THAT IT SEEMS

5235
03:35:01,320 --> 03:35:08,800
LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE A SLOW

5236
03:35:08,800 --> 03:35:10,480
BUT METHODICAL PROCESS AND WHAT

5237
03:35:10,480 --> 03:35:13,600
ROB WAS GETTING AT WITH DOE

5238
03:35:13,600 --> 03:35:14,560
WE'RE COMMITTED TO THE

5239
03:35:14,560 --> 03:35:17,080
TRANSPARENCY OF THAT METHODICAL

5240
03:35:17,080 --> 03:35:19,600
PROCESS AS THESE NEW TECH

5241
03:35:19,600 --> 03:35:21,160
NOLOGIES BECOME AVAILABLE.

5242
03:35:21,160 --> 03:35:22,880
ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE

5243
03:35:22,880 --> 03:35:28,040
ENGAGING OUR LABS, WHY DoD HAS

5244
03:35:28,040 --> 03:35:32,880
SORT OF SDCP, SO KIND OF AN ALL-

5245
03:35:32,880 --> 03:35:33,320
HANDS-ON DECK WORKING

5246
03:35:33,320 --> 03:35:35,640
TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW

5247
03:35:35,640 --> 03:35:41,400
, REALLY PUSH FOR THOSE

5248
03:35:41,400 --> 03:35:43,360
TOWARDS THOSE NEW TECHNOLOGIES

5249
03:35:43,360 --> 03:35:44,360
AND UNDERSTANDINGS OF THE

5250
03:35:44,360 --> 03:35:47,080
SCIENCES SO THAT WE CAN BE

5251
03:35:47,080 --> 03:35:49,360
PROTECTIVE OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN

5252
03:35:49,360 --> 03:35:52,440
THE ENVIRONMENT.

5253
03:35:52,440 --> 03:35:52,800
>> THANK YOU.

5254
03:35:52,800 --> 03:35:53,840
ONE QUESTION CAME THROUGH WHILE

5255
03:35:53,840 --> 03:35:55,680
YOU WERE SPEAKING AND I'VE PUT

5256
03:35:55,680 --> 03:35:57,120
THAT IN THE CHAT.

5257
03:35:57,120 --> 03:36:01,360
IT WAS WHAT WAS THE IMPOTENCE

5258
03:36:01,360 --> 03:36:05,320
THAT INFLUENCES DOE TO INFLUENCE

5259
03:36:05,320 --> 03:36:06,800
THEIR OWN ROADMAP.

5260
03:36:06,800 --> 03:36:08,800
>> GREAT QUESTION.

5261
03:36:08,800 --> 03:36:14,200
SO THE ISSUING THE MEMO WAS WELL

5262
03:36:14,200 --> 03:36:18,480
WE SAW THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER

5263
03:36:18,480 --> 03:36:20,800
OF ISSUES WITH NOT ONLY WITHIN

5264
03:36:20,800 --> 03:36:22,000
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY BUT

5265
03:36:22,000 --> 03:36:25,240
REALLY WITHIN SOME OF THE OTHER

5266
03:36:25,240 --> 03:36:29,080
AGENCIES THAT RELATED TO HOW

5267
03:36:29,080 --> 03:36:34,040
PFAS WAS BEING ADDRESSED.

5268
03:36:34,040 --> 03:36:35,920
THERE WAS AN NDAA THAT WENT OUT

5269
03:36:35,920 --> 03:36:39,120
A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT HAD

5270
03:36:39,120 --> 03:36:43,360
REQUIREMENTS FOR DOD TO DO,

5271
03:36:43,360 --> 03:36:45,880
ALMOST VERBATIM EXACTLY WHAT IS

5272
03:36:45,880 --> 03:36:48,080
IN OUR MEMO AND WE FELT LIKE

5273
03:36:48,080 --> 03:36:50,080
THAT WAS A VERY REASONABLE FIRST

5274
03:36:50,080 --> 03:36:52,880
STEP FOR US TO TRY TO MAKE SURE

5275
03:36:52,880 --> 03:36:56,720
THAT WE WERE TAKING SOME ACTION

5276
03:36:56,720 --> 03:36:57,600
GIVING OURSELVES YOU KNOW A

5277
03:36:57,600 --> 03:36:59,240
LITTLE BIT OF BREATHING ROOM TO

5278
03:36:59,240 --> 03:37:01,320
BE ABLE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS AND

5279
03:37:01,320 --> 03:37:04,680
ASSESS WHAT OUR INVENTORIES LOOK

5280
03:37:04,680 --> 03:37:05,040
ED LIKE.

5281
03:37:05,040 --> 03:37:07,160
AND TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THINGS

5282
03:37:07,160 --> 03:37:07,480
FORWARD.

5283
03:37:07,480 --> 03:37:10,960
WITH REGARD TO THE ROADMAP OF

5284
03:37:10,960 --> 03:37:14,120
COURSE AGAIN EPA ISSUED THEIR

5285
03:37:14,120 --> 03:37:17,040
ROADMAP SOME TIME AGO AND THEN

5286
03:37:17,040 --> 03:37:18,160
UPDATED IT.

5287
03:37:18,160 --> 03:37:20,040
CEQ CAME OUT EARLIER THIS YEAR

5288
03:37:20,040 --> 03:37:23,040
AND ASKED ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS

5289
03:37:23,040 --> 03:37:25,280
AND AGENCIES WITH PFAS EQUITIES

5290
03:37:25,280 --> 03:37:28,680
TO DEVELOP A ROADMAP BASED ON

5291
03:37:28,680 --> 03:37:40,920
THE MODEL OF THE EPA ONE.

5292
03:37:40,920 --> 03:37:41,760
>> IF THERE ARE NOT ANYMORE

5293
03:37:41,760 --> 03:37:44,120
QUESTIONS WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL

5294
03:37:44,120 --> 03:37:45,920
PRESENTATION # SLOT AND SO WE'LL

5295
03:37:45,920 --> 03:37:47,960
CALL IT A LITTLE EARLIER TODAY.

5296
03:37:47,960 --> 03:37:52,560
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE PRE

5297
03:37:52,560 --> 03:37:56,560
SENTERS AND ALL OF OUR E-MAIL

5298
03:37:56,560 --> 03:37:59,680
TRACKING SUPPORT, COREY, LAURIE

5299
03:37:59,680 --> 03:38:01,360
AND GENENE, THANKS FOR STICKING

5300
03:38:01,360 --> 03:38:05,320
WITH US ALL AFTERNOON TO SUPPORT

5301
03:38:05,320 --> 03:38:08,440
US THERE AND TO ALEXA THANK YOU

5302
03:38:08,440 --> 03:38:15,600
FOR HELPING TO MODERATE.

5303
03:38:15,600 --> 03:38:17,040
HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP THIS TRACK

5304
03:38:17,040 --> 03:38:20,360
GOING FOR THE NEXT FEDERAL

5305
03:38:20,360 --> 03:38:22,560
ENVIRONMENTAL SYMPOSIUM IN 2023

5306
03:38:22,560 --> 03:38:27,240
BECAUSE THINGS WILL COMPLETELY

5307
03:38:27,240 --> 03:38:27,880
DIFFERENT, ALL OF THE SAME, IT

5308
03:38:27,880 --> 03:38:30,640
IS GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING.

5309
03:38:30,640 --> 03:38:32,160
SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR STICK

5310
03:38:32,160 --> 03:38:33,200
ING WITH US, PARTICIPATING

5311
03:38:33,200 --> 03:38:34,000
AND WE'LL SIGN OFF.

5312
03:38:34,000 --> 03:40:05,280
>> THANK YOU EVERYONE.