WELCOME TO THE 2022 FEDERAL
ENVIRONMENTAL SYMPOSIUM.
I AM ATOYA McDUFFIE AND I'M
THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE DHS
FLEET ELECTRIFICATION PROGRAM
MANAGEMENT OFFICE, AND I'LL BE
MODERATOR FOR THIS HOUR.
NOW, IN THIS SESSION, WE'LL
COVER ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND YOU ALL MAY
BE AWARE THAT THE DEMAND FOR THE
WORKPLACE CHARGING AND CAN
ELECTRIFICATION OF THE FEDERAL
FLEET HAS INCREASED IN RECENT
YEARS, BOLSTERED BY THE GROWING
ADOPTION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES
AND IMPROVED TECHNOLOGY.
NOW, THESE PROGRAMS CAN BE
TRICKY TO IMPLEMENT AND THE
FEDERAL MANDATES THAT ARE
CRUCIAL TO ACCELERATING EFFORTS
TO MEET THE WHITEHOUSE GOALS FOR
STABILITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE AS
SET FORTH IN THE EO125008 AS
WELL AS EO14057.
NOW, THE EV CHARGING AND
INFRASTRUCTURE PANEL WILL SHARE
HOW THE U.S. GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION IS HELPING TO
FACILITATE AN ALL OF GOVERNMENT
APPROACH TO ADDRESS CLIMATE
CHANGE AND FEDERAL OPERATIONS BY
ELECTRIFYING THE FEDERAL FLEET.
NOW, IN THIS SESSION, WE WILL
DISCUSS TRENDS, CHAL ENGSZ AND
THE -- CHALLENGES THE AND
IMPORTANCE OF LITHIUM-ION BALT
RI RECYCLING, AS WELL AS EXPLORE
CHARGING AND FLEET
ELECTRIFICATION APPROACHES.
LASTLY, THE CHALLENGES AND
SUCCESSES AT BOTH ARGON NATIONAL
LABORATORY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOME DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY.
NOW, BEFORE GET STARTED, WE'LL
DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSE
RULES.
I'LL ASK THAT ALL QUESTIONS WILL
BE HELTD UNTIL THE END -- WILL
BE HELD UNTIL THE END OF BOTH
SESSIONS.
NOW, FROM 11:05 TO 11:20 WE'LL
TALK ABOUT HOW GSA SUPPORTS ZERO
EMISSIONS VEHICLE DEPLOYMENT,
AND THEN WE'LL ROLL RIGHT INTO
THE IMPORTANCE OF LITHIUM-ION
BATTERIES, THEN WE'LL BREAK, AND
THEN AT THE SECOND HALF OF THE
SESSION SH WE'LL GET INTO
IMPLEMENTING WORKPLACE CHARGING
AND THE LESSONS LEANDERS, AS
WELL AS -- LESSONS LEANDERS AS
WELL AS THE DHS FLEET
ELECTRIFICATION EFFORTS.
SO LET'S GET STARTED.
WE'LL START OFF BY ALLOWING OUR
PANEL MEMBERS TO INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES, AND WE'LL START OFF
WITH STEPHANIE.
STEPH NIRKS YOU'RE ON MUTE --
STEPHANIE, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: SORRY
ABOUT THAT.
THANKS, ATOYA.
THAT WAS A GREAT INTRODUCTION.
I'M STEPHANIE GRESALFI, I WORK
FOR GSA FLEET, WE'RE THE OFFICE
THAT SUPPLIES GOVERNMENT WITH
VEHICLES WE'RE THE MANDATORY
SOURCE AND THEN WE ALSO RUN AN
END-TO-END VEHICLE LEASING
PROGRAM.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD
TO ENSURE THAT FEDERAL AGENCIES
HAVE ACCESS TOP THE LATEST
AVAILABLE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND
CHARGING SOLUTIONS AS WELL.
SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE
TODAY.
AND I WILL PASS IT OVER TO
ALLISON TO INTRODUCE HERSELF.
>> Allison Young: HELLO.
I'M ALLISON YOUNG, I'M A
RESEARCH ARCHITECT AT THE
ENGINEER RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT CENTER, CONSTRUCTION
ENGINEERING RESEARCH LAB, AT THE
U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
I'VE PRIMARILY WORKED ON SOURCE
REDUCTION AND RESOURCE
RESILIENCE PROGRAM OR SR3, WITH
A FOCUS ON RECYCLING AND WASTE
REDUCTION, BUT I'VE ALSO
RECENTLY BRANCHED OUT TO WORK IN
SUSTAINABLE DESIGN AND CULTURAL
RESOURCES.
I HOLD A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN
ARCHITECTURE FROM THE UNIVERSITY
OF CINCINNATI AND MASTER'S
DEGREE FROM URBAN PLANNING FROM
THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT
URBANA CHAMPAIGN AND I
PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR ARCHITECTURE FOR OVER
FIVE YEARS.
THANKSES.
>> GREAT.
WE'LL STARTED STARTED HERE.
I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN.
>> Atoya McDuffie: WHILE
STEPHANIE IS SHARING HER SCREEN,
I WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW A
LITTLE BIT OF LOGISTICS TODAY,
PARTICULARLY IN IF YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS.
SO BECAUSE OF THE LARGE NUMBER
OF ATTENDEES, WE HAVE EVERYONE
MUTED, AND THEN THERE IS, IF YOU
HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS,
PLEASE CLICK ON THE SEND LIVE
FEEDBACK BUTTON, AND A POPUP BOX
SHOULD APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN AND
YOU CAN TYPE YOUR QUESTIONS IN
THERE.
SEND YOUR QUESTIONS DURING BOTH
PRESENTATIONS, AND I WILL MAKE
SURE THAT ALL OF THE PRESENTERS
GET YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEY WILL
ANSWER THEM AT THE END.
THANK YOU.
SORRY, STEPHANIE.
GO AHEAD.
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: NO
PROBLEM.
THANK YOU, NICOLE.
SO WE'LL GET STARTED.
I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHAT GSA OFFERS FEDERAL
AGENCIES AND WHAT YOU AS OUR
AUDIENCE TODAY, WHAT YOU COULD
REALLY TAKE AWAY.
SO OUR AGENDA TODAY, WE ARE
GOING TO DISCUSS THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT'S PRIORITIES AND THE
ROLE OF GSA.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES RNTION
CHALKING INFRASTRUCTURE AND
RESOURCES, CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCES.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ELECTION
PRIORITIES -- ELECT FICTION
PRIORITIES.
ATOYA TOUCHED ON THIS BUT I'LL
JUST SHOW IT HERE TODAY, TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS H SO THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THE GOAL
REALLY IS TO TACKLE THE CLIMATE
CRISIS BOTH AT HOME AND ABROAD,
AND WE HEARD ABOUT THIS AS EARLY
AS BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN, THEN THIS
ROLLED INTO ONE OF HIS FIRST
EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT WAS SIGNED
AFTER A WEEK OF ASSUMING OFFICE,
EO14008 REALLY TOUCHED ON HOW
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE
GOVERNMENT TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
JUST THINKING ABOUT AT LARGE HOW
THE U.S. CAN LEAD BY EXAMPLE NOT
ONLY THE FEDERAL FLEET BUT
ACROSS -- BUT REALLY IN THE
GLOBAL COMMUNITY, EO14037 SIGNED
IN AUGUST REQUIRES THAT
50 PERCENT OF AUTO SALES ARE
ZEBS BY 2030, THAT HAS PUSHED A
LOT OF AUTO MAKERS, I THINK
WE'VE SEEN OVER $300 BILLION
WORTH OF INVESTMENT ACROSS ALL
THE AUTO MAKERS GLOBALLY FOR
ELECTRIFICATION BUT WE'VE ALSO
SEEN THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE ALSO
HAVING GOALS TO HAVE THEIR
TARGET SALES TO BE ANYWHERE FROM
30 TO 50 PERCENT BY 2030.
THEN WE SAW THE INFRASTRUCTURE
BILL WAS SIGNED, THIS WAS A BIG
WIN, THIS BIPARTISAN BILL WAS
SIGNED IN NOVEMBER, AND IT
PROVIDES 7.5 BILLION FOR EV
CHARGING STATIONS ACROSS THE
U.S., NOT ONLY WILL THAT REALLY
HELP THE MARKET TO BLOSSOM TO
ENSURE THAT DRIVERS REALLY DON'T
HAVE THAT RANGE ANXIETY THAT WE
ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT AND THAT THEY
CAN REALLY MAKE IT WHEN THEY'RE
GOING ON LONG TRIPS, BUT IT ALSO
GIVES THE FEDERAL FLEET ACTUALLY
SOME SECURITY AS WELL.
THEN HOW REQUEST WE LEAD BY
EXAMPLE -- HOW CAN WE LEAD BY
EXAMPLE?
REQUIRED BY 2027 AND 2035 THERE
WERE SOME NEW Z HE B ACQUISITION
TARKTS.
SO BY 2027, 100 PERCENT OF LIGHT
VEHICLES WILL NEED TO BE
ELECTRIC AND BY 2035 ALL
VEHICLES WILL NEED TO BE
ACQUIRED AS ELECTRIC, REMEMBER,
THOSE ARE ACQUISITION TARGETS.
THEY'RE NOT INVENTORY TARGETS.
THE WHITEHOUSE AND CEQ HAVE BEEN
WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE
WHITEHOUSE TO SET TARGETS SO HOW
THEY CAN BUILD UP SLOWLY OVER
TIME.
AND THEN OF COURSE SOME AGENCIES
HAVE RECEIVED SOME FUNGSD
THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS, NOT ALL
AGENCIES, GSA WAS SUPPOSED TO OR
THOUGHT WE MIGHT RECEIVE SOME
FUNDING, IT LOOKS LIKE
POTENTIALLY IN '23 BUT THAT WILL
OF COURSE HELP.
THEN HOW CAN GSA REALLY
SUPPORT -- HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
OKAY.
SO HOW CAN GSA REALLY SUPPORT
AGENCIES' GOALS?
SO WE CAN DO THIS THROUGH ACCESS
TO OFFERINGS FROM CHARGING
STATIONS TO VEHICLES AND THEN WE
CAN ALSO DO THIS THROUGH UNIQUE
AND COMPETITIVE FINANCING
OFFERINGS, SO I'LL GET TO THOSE
AND SOME OF OUR SOLUTIONS AS WE
MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE DECK.
SO HOW DOES GSA SUPPORT
ELECTRIFICATION?
AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE THE
MANDATORY SOURCE FOR PURCHASING
SO WE NEGOTIATED DEEP DISCOUNTS
AND WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
OFFERINGS MIRROR COMMERCIAL
OFFERINGS, THEN WE HAVE THE
LEASING PROGRAM SO THAT AGENCIES
DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
SELLING THEIR VEHICLES, BUYING
THEM, MAINTAINING THEM, AND WE
ALSO PROVIDE ANALYSIS TO HELP
AGENCIES WITH PLANNING AND THEN
OF COURSE WE HAVE FACT SHEETS,
YOU KNOW, DOING SOME DIMENSIONS
COMPARISONS, REALLY HELPING WITH
THE CULTURAL CHANGE THAT NEEDS
TO HAPPEN, AND THEN PROVIDING
INFORMATION ON OUR OFFERINGS.
THEN OUR PUBLIC BUILDING
SERVICE, THERE ARE REAL
ESTATE -- THEY'RE OUR REAL
ESTATE ARM AND GSA, THEY
ACTUALLY CAN FACILITATE TENANT
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
STATION REQUESTS AND GSA MANAGED
SPACE, THEY'RE WORKING ON
UPDATING THEIR POLICY, AND THEN
DEVELOP STRATEGY FOR GSA-OWNED
BUILDINGS TO BE READY.
SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE VEHICLES
OR OPERATIONS IN DIFFERENT
FEDERAL BUILDINGS, WE'RE
ENSURING THAT WE CAN REALLY MAKE
THEM READY, READY TO GO, AND
THAT'S MAYBE INCREASING THEIR
ELECTRICAL CAPACITY, SEEING
WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE NEEDS
FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AND THEN
WE ALSO, WHICH I'LL GET INTO, WE
HAVE A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION
CONTRACT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON
SO THAT WE CAN REALLY PROVIDE
THAT FULL SOLUTION TO AGENCIES
FROM PROCURING THE STATION TO
INSTALLING IT.
HERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES AND
SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES ARE
UNIQUE TO THE FEDERAL FLEET BUT
ACTUALLY A LOT OF THEM ARE
REALLY CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE IN
ERCH COURAGING ADOPTION
THROUGHOUT THE MARKET.
UPFRONT COSTS, SEDAN, SUV'S,
THOSE WERE SOME OF THE FIRST
VEHICLES TO BE ELECTRIC AND
THOSE VEHICLES ARE STILL ABOUT
50 PERCENT OR MORE, MORE
EXPENSIVE.
SO THE WAY GSA HAS HELPED OUR
FEDERAL AGENCIES IS WE OFFER A
NEW OPTION THAT ALLOWS AGENCIES
TO SPREAD THEIR COSTS OVER THREE
YEARS, MUCH LIKE LEASING A CAR,
SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY
FOR IT ALL UPFRONT.
EXPSK OUR STRONG SUPPLIER
RELATIONSHIPS, WE'RE CONTINUALLY
MEETING WITH OUR SUPPLIERS,
WE'RE INDICATING THERE IS
DEMAND, WE'RE TRYING TO
AGGREGATE BUYS WHERE POSSIBLE.
WE KNOW THAT THIS AUTO INDUSTRY
IS VERY TOUGH RIGHT NOW, THERE'S
A LOT OF SUPPLY SHORTAGES FROM
LABOR SHORTAGES, MICROCHIP
SHORTAGES, ALL OF IT IS REALLY
PLAGUING THE INDUSTRY.
THEIR DEMAND RIGHT NOW IS REALLY
EXCEEDING SUPPLY, AND WE'RE
FEELING THAT.
SALES TEND TO ALSO GO TO RETAIL
CUSTOMERS WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY
MORE THAN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, BUT WE'RE ENSURING
THAT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE
STRONG AND WE CONTINUE TO
INDICATE THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS
A STRONG NEED FOR THESE VEHICLES
AS WE WORK ON ELECTRIFYING OUR
FLEET.
THEN MODEL AVAILABILITY.
IT IS CERTAINLY IMPROVING.
SOME MANUFACTURERS HAVE
PROMTIONED ALL ELECTRIC LINEUPS
BY 2035, SOME OF THEM, MOST OF
THEIR LINEUPS WILL BE ELECTRIC
BY 2030 OR SO, BUT, YOU KNOW,
MODEL AVAILABILITY IS STILL
TOUGH.
A LOT OF THE AMERICAN-BRANDED
MANUFACTURERS HAVE ACTUALLY EVEN
GOTTEN OUT OF THE SEDAN MARKET,
WHICH WE KNOW THE FEDERAL FLEET
NEEDS, AND WE ARE A WORKING
FLEET.
THERE'S A LOT OF PICKUP TRUCKS,
TRUCKS THAT TBHEED TO ELECTRIC
TRI PHI IF WE WANT TO REALLY DO
THIS.
SO IN THE ABSENCE OF SOME MODELS
BEING AVAILABLE, WE REALLY
ENCOURAGE AGENCIES TO FOCUS ON
INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO MOVE QUICK,
GET THESE STATIONS IN THE
GROUND, FOCUS ON WHAT'S
SCALABLE, WHAT'S REPEATABLE, AND
LOOK TO STANDARDIZATION.
AND COORDINATION AND CHANGE.
SO WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
AND ENROW TO REALLY MAKE SURE
THERE'S TRAINING OUT THERE.
THERE'S A MONTHLY GROUP CALLED
FEDERAL -- FEVAR IS THE ACRONYM,
I KNOW WE LOVE OUR ACRONYMS
HERE, THE FEDERAL AGENCY EV
ROUNDTABLE.
IT'S REALLY THERE TO BE A
SUPPORT FOR AGENCIES THAT ARE
LOOKING TO DO THIS THE FIRST
TIME.
AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
I MECHANICS MENTIONED THAT ONE.
WHILE WE'RE FOCUSING ON
INFRASTRUCTURE, GSA DOES HAVE
THAT FULL SOLUTION THAT I WILL
GET INTO.
SO FIRST JUST TALKING ABOUT THE
VEHICLES THEMSELVES, WHAT ARE
SOME ROADBLOCKS THAT WE FACE?
ROADBLOCKS WE FACE TOGETHER IS
OF COURSE THAT UPFRONT COST.
I KNOW I MENTIONED SEDANS CAN BE
50 PERCENT OR MORE, MORE
EXPENSIVE.
BUSES, SOME OF THOSE LARGER
VEHICLES WE'RE LOOKING AT CAN BE
TWO TO THREE TO EVEN FOUR TIMES
MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO OF COURSE THAT'S A BIG ROAD
ROADBLOCK.
WE KNOW THAT ON THE BACK END
THERE'S OF COURSE SAVINGS WITH
UTILIZATION, YOU'LL GET FUEL
SAVINGS ESPECIALLY AS GAS PRICES
CONTINUE TO GO UP, WHICH MAKES,
HUNDRED, ELECTRIC VEHICLES EVEN
MORE COMPETITIVE OVER TIME.
ELECTRIC SWUFT MOST OR IS THE
MOST STABLE -- ONE OF THE MOST
OR IS THE MOST STABLE FUEL
SOURCE.
LIKE I SAID, MODEL AVAILABILITY.
AND THEN CHANGE MANAGEMENT.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE
THAT DRIVERS FEEL COMFORTABLE
AND THEY ARE PREPARED WHEN
THEY'RE RECEIVING THEIR
VEHICLES.
AND THAT CAN REALLY BE OVERCOME
WITH TRAINING, WITH, YOU KNOW,
PILOTING CERTAIN LOCATIONS,
REALLY WORKING WITH THE DRIVERS
THERE.
SO HERE IS WHAT GSA HAS IN TERMS
OF OFFERINGS TODAY.
SOME OF THESE HAVE CLOSED OUT
EARLY, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE MANY
OF THEM TO REOPEN.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PLUG-IN
HYBRID ELECTRICS, BUT YOU'LL SEE
NOT AS MANY AS WE DO BATTERY
ELECTRICS.
SO PLUG-IN HYBRIDS, THEY ARE
THOSE VEHICLES THAT OPERATE MUCH
LIKE A REGULAR GASOLINE HYBRID,
THEY HAVE THAT REGENERATIVE
BRAKING, AND THEY CAN OPERATE ON
BOTH ELECTRICITY, SO THEY CAN BE
PLUGGED IN, OR GASOLINE.
SO THEY USUALLY HAVE 22, 40 OR
SO MILES ON ELECTRIC BEFORE THE
GASOLINE ENGINE KICKS IN, THEN
WE HAVE A GOOD DEAL OF BATTERY
ELECTRIC, WE HAVE SOME SCHOOL,
SHUTTLE AND TRANSIT BUSES,
MEDIUM AND HEAVIES THAT ARE NEW
AND STILL A LITTLE BIT PRICE
PROHIBITIVE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE PRICE RANGES
HERE.
BUT WE REALLY DO, LIKE I SAID,
STRIVE TO WORK WITH OUR
SUPPLIERS TO GET SOME DISCOUNTS,
AND IT'S NOT AS COMPETITIVE, THE
DISCOUNTS, AS YOU WOULD SEE ON A
GASOLINE OR OTHER FOSSIL FUEL
VEHICLE, BUT THEY'RE STILL
PRETTY IMPRESSIVE CONSIDERING
THIS MARKET.
SO HERE IS REALLY THE OUTLOOK
FOR THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF WHAT
YOU'LL SEE IN THE MARKETPLACE.
WE DO THINK THAT PLUG-IN HYBRIDS
WILL PROBABLY SLOWLY BE PHASED
OUT OVER TIME.
THEY'RE GREAT VEHICLES, BUT OF
COURSE YOU DON'T GET AS MUCH OF
THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS
BECAUSE YOU ARE USING GASOLINE.
SO REALLY LAW ENFORCEMENT I
THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL REALLY
GET INTO THAT THIS ONE, THAT
REALLY PURSUIT RATED IS WHAT A
LOT OF AGENCIES ARE LOOKING FOR,
BUT BECAUSE CHARGING TAKES
LONGER, IT WILL TAKE US A LITTLE
WHILE TO REALLY GET THERE.
WE SEE THAT SEDANS, SUV'S, WE
STILL HAVE STRONG OFFERINGS
THERE.
PASSENGER VANS ACTUALLY WE
DIDN'T HAVE MANY OFFERINGS.
THERE IS MORE CAPACITY NEEDED
FOR THESE VEHICLES, SO WE DO
THINK IN 2024, 2025, WE'LL SEE
MORE AVAILABILITY.
AND THEN I'LL JUST, LIERK I
SAID -- AND THAT WILL JUST, LIKE
I SAID, CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
GSA, WE CONTINUE TO BRING ON NEW
MODELS THROUGHOUT OUR
CONTRACTING PERIOD SO THAT WAY
AGENCIES HAVE ACCESS TONT ONLY
VEHICLES BUT ALSO TO DIFFERENT
CHARGING SOLUTIONS.
-- NOT ONLY VEHICLES BUT ALSO
DIFFERENT CHARGING SOLUTIONS.
CHARGING SOLUTIONS, I WANT TO
SET THE BACKSTAGE FOR THIS A
LITTLE BIT.
THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
CHARGING.
LEVEL 1 IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE,
CHARGES VEHICLE PS THE SLOWEST,
AND THEN LEVEL 2 WILL ACTUALLY
BE SUFFICIENT FOR MOST
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, FOR MOST
COMMUTERS IT'S IDEAL.
LEVEL 1 WILL EVEN WORK.
LEVEL 1 CHARGING WILL EVEN WORK
FOR COMMUTERS AS MOST COMMUTERS
JUST REALLY NEED TO TOP OFF.
THEY USUALLY ONLY TRAVEL ABOUT
12 TO 15 MILES EVERY COMMUTE AND
THEN OF COURSE DC FAST IS REALLY
GOOD WHEN YOU'RE ON THE GO.
YOU'LL SEE THOSE STATIONS
BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO CHARGE
YOUR VEHICLES FASTER, ADDING
ABOUT 50 TO 90 MILES IN 30
MINUTES, TO INSTALL THE STATIONS
THEMSELVES IS MORE COSTLY.
BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE,
BECAUSE OF THAT 7.5 BILLION THAT
WE GOT FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE
BILL FOR PUBLIC STATIONS, I
THINK YOU'LL START TO SEE A LOT
MORE OF THESE, AND IT WILL MAKE,
YOU KNOW, CHARGING ON THE GO
EVEN EASIER.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TODAY TO BUY
INFRASTRUCTURE FROM GSA, WE ARE
WORKING ON AWARDING A NEW
BLANKET PURCHASE, DIFFERENT
BLANKET PURCHASE AGREEMENTS,
WE'LL HAVE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES
OF PRODUCTS FROM, YOU KNOW,
THOSE STANDARD LEVEL 1, LEVEL 2,
DC FAST, TO SOLAR, PORTABLE, YOU
KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF
STATIONS AVAILABLE.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, TODAY,
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BUYING,
YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO OUR
MULTIPLE AWARDS SCHEDULE AND BUY
A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF
STATIONS.
WE HAVE RESOURCES MENTIONED AT
THE END ON HOW TO PURCHASE, BUT
IT REALLY CAN BE PRETTY EASY.
A LOT OF CHARGING COMPANIES ARE
REALLY WANTING TO PLAY WITH THE
GOVERNMENT, AND A LOT OF OPTIONS
FOR ALL TYPES OF USE CASES.
THE SOLAR STATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE,
I THINK ARE VERY COOL.
THEY CAN CHARGE UP TO SIX
VEHICLES AT A TIME, AND THEY'RE
GREAT FOR PARKING LOTS.
THERE'S NO INSTALLATION NEEDED.
THEN OF COURSE PORLTABLE
STATIONS -- PORTABLE STATIONS,
YOU CAN BRING THEM ANYWHERE.
SO IF YOU'RE AT A RURAL LOCATION
OR YOU HAVE AN OCCASIONAL NEED
TO GO VERY FAR, THAT COULD BE A
GREAT OPTION.
IT'S GREAT FOR, YOU KNOW,
BATTERIES THAT YOU MIGHT NEED.
AND THEN INFRASTRUCTURE
DEVELOPMENT.
GSA IS HERE TO SUPPORT AGENCIES.
WE PROVIDE CONTRACTS FOR
MAKE-READY EV CHARGING STATION
SERVICES AND OF COURSE WE
UPGRADE OUR FACILITIES AS
NEEDED.
AND THEN OUR PUBLIC BUILDING
SERVICE CAN HELP WITH THE
INSTALLATION AND GSA FLEET
PROVIDES YOU WITH THE VEHICLE.
SO WE'LL HELP YOU THROUGH THE
WHOLE PROCESS.
YOU JUST NEED TO BE WILLING TO
SIGN A REIMBURSABLE WORK
AUTHORIZATION THAT WILL ALLOW US
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WORK.
HERE IS JUST A BIG-PICTURE LOOK
AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
AWARDED BY APRIL IN TERMS OF FOR
PRODUCT.
WE'LL BE ABLE -- WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE THIS NEW SOLUTION.
ONE OF THE GREAT BENEFITS OF
THIS NEW BLANKET PURCHASE
AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON
IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE
COMPLIANT WITH ALL FEDERAL IT
SECURITY REQUIREMENTS, SO THAT
MEANS THAT THE AT THE TASK ORDER
LEVEL YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY
BECAUSE YOU'LL KNOW EVERY
PRODUCT MEETS THIS.
AND THEN YOU CAN USE THE
STATION, YOU CAN USE
SELF-SERVICE OR THEY CAN WORK IN
TANDEM AND YOU CAN HAVE GSA
PURCHASE YOUR STATIONS AND
INSTALL THEM.
AND THIS DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT
SHOULD BE AWARDED BY JULY.
I JUST TO WANT GET INTO
WORKPLACE CHARGING.
I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT A LOT
OF US ARE THINKING ABOUT AS
WE'RE RETURNING TO THE OFFICE OR
MAYBE WE'VE BEEN IN THE OFFICE
FOR A WHILE AND NOW WE'RE
CONSIDERING AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
THEY'RE MORE AFFORDABLE.
IF YOUR WORKPLACE TODAY DOESN'T
HAVE A CHARGING STATION, I DON'T
WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THAT
MEANS IT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION.
SO FEDS CAN CHARGE AT WORK.
IT'S AUTHORIZED BY THE FAST ACT
WHICH WAS SIEBD IN -- SIGNED IN
DECEMBER OF 2015.
A LOT OF EVEN LEASED BUILDINGS
ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN DOING
THIS, THEB IT ATTRACTS TENANTS,
BUT AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED TO
RECOUP ALL COSTS BECAUSE IT IS A
BENEFIT, OF COURSE.
SO AGENCIES, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO
SET A FEE, THEY MUST DEPOSIT
THAT COLLECTION TO THE TREASURY,
THEY HAVE MIGHT DO THAT THROUGH
A NETWORK CHARGING STATION AND
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE STATIONS
THAT ARE PRIMARILY FOR
GOVERNMENT USE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A STATION
PRIMARILY FOR GOVERNMENT USE,
THAT'S ONLY CHARGING THE
VEHICLES OVERNIGHT, MAYBE YOU
CAN USE IT FOR TWO PURPOSES AND
DURING THE DAY YOU CAN USE IT
FOR WORKPLACE CHARGING.
THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT RESOURCES
ON DOE'S WEBSITE.
WE HAVE SOME AS WELL.
SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE THOSE
RESOURCES I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
HOW TO CHARGE PUBLICLY, I JUST
WANT TO MENTION THAT THE WEX AND
WEJ CARDS ARE ACCEPTED BY THE
CHARGE POINT NETWORK AS WELL AS
CHARGE POINT'S ROAMING PARTNERS
WHICH IS PRETTY COOL BECAUSE IT
MEANS YOU CAN CHARGE IT I THINK
IT'S OVER 50 PERCENT OF
STATIONS, THEY INCLUDE GREEN
LOTS, EV GO, EV BOX, I'LL
PROBABLY FORGET ONE, FLOW, SILOT
OF OPTIONS THERE.
WE HAVE OUR AFV GUIDE AND ZERO
EMISSION FACT SHEET, THERE'S THE
FEMP EV CHAMPION TRAINING
SERIES, CHARGING GUIDANCE AND
CHARGING STATION RESOURCES WHICH
WILL BE UPDATED ONCE WE AWARD
OUR NEW EVP'S, THEN HERE IS IF
YOU WANT TO GET IN CONTACT WITH
OUR PUBLIC BUILDING SERVICE
ABOUT INSTALLATIONS, YOU COULD
FIND THEIR INFORMATION HERE.
WE ALSO HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE, WE
HAVE SOME GREAT INFORMATION
ABOUT UTILITY INCENTIVES THAT
FEDERAL DRIVERS CAN TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF, ANYTHING THAT'S
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SO YOU CAN
SEARCH BY STATE, BY CITY, YOU
CAN FIND WHAT MIGHT WORK FOR YOU
AND YOUR DRIVERS, YOU MIGHT FIND
SOME WAYS TO SAVE SOME MONEY.
SO THAT COULD BE REALLY HELPFUL
WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO INSTALL
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THAT'S ALL FOR ME.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
LISTENING TODAY, AND I'LL TURN
IT BACK OVER TO ATOYA.
>> Atoya McDuffie: THANK YOU,
STEPHANIE.
WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR
STEPHANIE.
IT CAME IN FROM JOHN.
>>TO WHAT EXTENT, IF ANY,
CAN FEDERAL AGENCIES TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF STATE GRANT
PROGRAMS TO FURTHER STATE
EFFORTS TO ATTAIN THEIR ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLE RECHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE GOALS?
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: THAT'S A
GREAT QUESTION.
THERE ARE A LOT OF INCENTIVES I
WOULD SAY ESPECIALLY WITH THE
UTILITIES MORE SO PROBABLY THAN
ANY OTHER PROGRAM YOU'LL SEE OUT
THERE.
ON OUR WEBSITE, GSA.GOV/EVSE WE
HAVE AN EXCEL SHEET THAT IS A
DASHBOARD THAT ALLOWS YOU TO
SEARCH BY CITY, STATE AND FIND
THE INCENTIVES NEAR YOU.
WITH THAT SAID, A LOT OF THE
INCENTIVES, I HAVE TO SAY, DO
EXCLUDE FEDERAL AGENCIES OR, YOU
KNOW, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
SO YOU REALLY NEED TO SPEAK WITH
YOUR LOCAL UTILITY OR THE
UTILITY THAT'S APPLICABLE AND
MAKE SURE THAT THEY WILL WORK
WITH YOU.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OKAY, GREAT.
THE NEXT QUESTION IS, HOW CAN WE
FIX THE DISADVANTAGES OF
ELECTRIC VEHICLES INCLUDING
FINDING CHARGING STATIONS,
CHARGING TIMES, HIGHER INITIAL
COST, LIMITED DRIVER RANGE, AND
BATTERY PACKS THAT CAN BE
EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE?
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: THIS IS A
BIG QUESTION HERE.
>> Atoya McDuffie: YES.
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: SO I'LL
START WITH THIS BY SAYING THAT,
YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES
YOU GET, THE LIGHT DULT ONES AT
LEAST, THEY WILL HAVE THE
BATTERY PACKS WILL BE WARRANTED
FOR AT LEAST EIGHT YEARS OR
100,000 MILES.
THAT CERTAINLY HELPS YOU THERE.
BUT IN TERM OF OTHER CHALLENGES,
I THINK OVER TIME AS THE
TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES, YOU'LL SEE
THAT GM HAS THEIR BATTERY, THE
BATTERIES WILL BE ABLE TO BE
MORE EFFECTIVE, WE'LL SEE
MODULAR BATTERIES DEVELOPING, I
THINK OVER TIME PRICES WILL GO
DOWN BUT OF COURSE WITH THE
SUPPLY ISSUES GOING ON RIGHT
NOW, WITH INFLATION, WE KNOW
THAT NEW CARS ARE MORE
EXPENSIVE.
IN TERMS OF FINDING STATIONS TO
CHARGE, I THINK THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL WILL REALLY
HELP THERE JUST BE MORE
STATIONS.
WE'RE ALSO JUST SEEING MORE
STANDARDIZATION WITH PAYMENT
THAT'S ACCEPTED AND HOW TO
CHARGE.
SO CALLY OF COURSE IS ALWAYS A
LEADER IN THIS REALM, BUT
THEY'VE ALREADY HAD LAWS THAT
ENCOURAGE STANDARDIZATION SO
THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A
MEMBER OF A CERTAIN STATION
CHARGING NETWORK TO BE ABLE TO
CHARGE THERE.
ALLISON, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU
WANT TO ADD ONTO THAT ONE?
>> Allison Young: I DON'T AT THE
MOMENT.
>> Atoya McDuffie: SO WE HAVE
ANOTHER QUESTION FROM CAMERON.
HOW WOULD AN AGENCY GET ACCESS
TO THE AGENCY ROUNDTABLE?
I THINK HE'S REFERRING TO --
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: SURE.
I WILL PUT AN E-MAIL ADDRESS IN
THE CHAT.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL THIS UP
NOW.
IT'S FEDERAL.FLEETS AT NROW.GOV.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ADD YOU TO
IT.
EVERYONE IS WELCOME.
>> THE PARTICIPANTS, THE ONLY
PEOPLE THAT CAN SEE THE CHAT ARE
THE MODERATORS AND THE
PRESENTERS.
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: SO
EVERYONE TYPE THIS IN IF YOU
WANT TO.
IT'S FEDERAL.FLEETS AT NRAL.GOV,
IF YOU E-MAIL THEM, THEY CAN GET
YOU ADDED, I THINK IT'S THE
THIRD TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
>> Atoya McDuffie: GREAT.
THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.
THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT
COMES IN FROM ADAM.
HE SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE
ELABORATE MORE ON THE DESIGN AND
CONSTRUCTION IN PLACE THAT YOU
MENTIONED EARLIER IN YOUR
PRESENTATION?
WHAT ALL DOES THAT ENTAIL AND
HOW DOES IT RELATE TO OTHER
FEDERAL AGENCIES BEYOND GSA?
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: SURE.
SO GSA IS WORKING ON A SOLUTION.
IT'S NOT IN PLACE TODAY.
AND IT IS GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF
IDIQ CONTRACTS, SO INDEFINITE
QUANTITY, INDEFINITE DELIVERY
CONTRACTS, IT'S GOING TO BE
BROKE HE UP REGIONALLY, SO
AGENCIES WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS
THAT, DO LIKE A SELF-SERVICE
TYPE MODEL AND HAVE YOUR
CONTRACTING OFFICERS BE ABLE TO
GET ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION,
DESIGN SERVICES, THE ABILITY TO
DO FEASIBILITY STUDIES, OR IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TORQUES GSA CAN
DO IT AS AN ASSISTED ACQUISITION
FOR A SMALL FEE.
SO THAT WILL BE IN PLACE BY
JULY.
IN THE MEANTIME, THOUGH, GSA
DOES HAVE A DIVISION WITHIN OUR
OFFICE OF DESIGN AND
CONSTRUCTION THAT CAN TAKE ON
SOME PROJECTS TODAY.
SO IF YOU DON'T EITHER HAVE THE
CAPABILITY OR, YOU KNOW, YOU
WOULD JUST LIKE ASSISTANCE FROM
GSA ON EITHER DOING THE
FEASIBILITY STUDIES, DOING THE
CONSTRUCTION, ORE OR BOTH, WE
CAN CERTAINLY HELP YOU TODAY.
T I WILL PUT ANOTHER E-MAIL
ADDRESS IN THE CHAT IF YOU'RE
INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE
ABOUT THAT.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OKAY.
WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM
STEVEN.
SO HE ASKS, IN TERMS OF COSTS,
WOULDN'T THE LIFE CYCLE COST OF
EV'S GENERALLY BE LOWER THAN
CONVENTIONAL ICE VEHICLES,
ESPECIALLY IF YOU CONSIDER THE
COST OF EMISSIONS?
AND IF SO, WOULDN'T THEIR
PROCUREMENT POLICY ENCOURAGE THE
LOWER COST LIFE CYCLE COST
OPTION?
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: YEAH,
SURE.
SO, YOU KNOW, LOWER LIFE CYCLE
COSTS OF COURSE IS A BIG
CONSIDERATION WHEN AGENCIES ARE
PURCHASING, BUT OF COURSE
AGENCIES DO HAVE A SET BUDGET,
AND THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MEET
ALL THEIR MISSION REQUIREMENTS
AND REPLACE THEIR VEHICLES.
WE ALSO LOOK AT UTILIZATION.
THESE VEHICLES, BECAUSE THEY
HAVE SUCH A HIGH UP FRONT COST,
IF THEY'RE NOT BEING DRIVEN
PROPERLY OR, YOU KNOW, FIFTEEN
TO 25,000 MILES A YEAR,
SOMETIMES MORE, EVEN IF YOU LOOK
AT THAT COST SAVINGS IN TERMS OF
A DOLLAR VALUE, IT MIGHT NOT
MAKE UP FOR THAT UPFRONT COST.
SO WE REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT YOU
DRIVE THESE VEHICLES AND THEN,
OF COURSE, THERE ARE EMISSION
SAVINGS.
I THINK I READ A STUDY THAT IT
SAID WITH SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR
AFTER BUYING ONE OF THESE
ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THEY
BASICALLY MAKE UP ON THE
EMISSIONS SIDE, THEY MAKE UP FOR
EVEN THE COST TO MANUFACTURE THE
BATTERIES, SO YOU ARE RIGHT THAT
THEY DO HAVE THAT SAVINGS.
WE ALSO SEE A LOT OF FEDERAL
AGENCIES PURCHASING THE PLUG-IN
HYBRID ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THOSE ARE A GREAT TRANSITIONAL
VEHICLE, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT POLICING AGENCIES
PUTTING GASOLINE INTO THOSE
VEHICLES.
SO YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT
SAVINGS HAD.
SO DEFINITELY HAVE A LITTLE BIT
TO GO SHES -- SO WE DEFINITELY
HAVE A LITTLE BIT TO GO, BUT TO
WHOEVER ASKED THAT QUESTION, WE
HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CL MAY
SEEM MORE APPARENT, BUT ALSO OF
SEEING COST SAVINGS TOO.
>> Atoya McDuffie: ANOTHER
QUESTION FROM CAMERON.
IS A UTILITY CONNECTION NEEDED
FOR THE SOLAR CHARGERS, FOR
THINGS LIKE CLOUDY DAYS?
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: THAT'S A
GREAT QUESTION.
I ALWAYS THINK THAT IT'S GREAT
TO BE JUST ENGAGE WITH YOUR
LOCAL UTILITY AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE AND AS EARLY AND OFTEN
AS POSSIBLE.
THESE STATIONS, THOUGH, ARE
RENEWABLE AND THEY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO STORE ENERGY, SO IT'S
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE
NOT CONNECTED TO THE GRID.
THEY'RE JUST KIND OF A PLUG AND
PLAY.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OKAY.
I THINK THIS NEXT ONE IS FOR
ALLISON.
ARE THERE CURRENT EFFORTS TO
SCALE RECYCLING?
>> Allison Young: SO WE WERE
DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON KIND
OF WHAT IS GOING ON OUT IN THE
CURRENT MARKET AND WHAT'S GOING
ON IN THE WORLD OF LITHIUM
BATTERY RECYCLING, AND THERE
ARE, IT SEEMS LIKE, MORE
COMPANIES THAT ARE GETTING INTO
THIS AND LOOKING INTO THIS AND
LOOKING AT ALL THE VARIOUS
CHALLENGES AND ISSUES THAT WE'VE
BEEN DISCUSSING.
I THINK SOME OF THE WAYS THAT
RECYCLING HAS KIND OF BEEN
CHANGING FOR THE LITHIUM-ION
BATTERIES IS TO SOME DEGREE
GOING FROM THE PYRO MEMGHTS YOU
ARE JI -- PYRO METALLURGY WHICH
SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN AND MAY STILL
BE KIND OF THE PRIMARY WAY TO
RECYCLE THOSE BATTERIES, AND
STARRING TO DO A LOT MORE
RESEARCH AND HAVE MORE COMPANIES
THAT ARE TRYING TO WORK ON
HYDROMETALLURGY AND EVEN THIS
DIRECT RECYCLING SO THAT MORE
MATERIALS CAN BE SAVED AND
RECOVERED IN THAT PROCESS.
SO THERE DEFINITELY IS A LOT OF
WORK GOING ON IN THAT.
IN TERMS OF SCALING, LIKE I
SAID, I THINK THERE ARE MORE AND
MORE COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING
INTO THIS, BUT IT IS STILL
SOMETHING THAT I THINK ONE OF
THE OTHER BIG GAPS THAT I
IDENTIFIED IN THE PRESENTATION
AS WELL IS MAKING SURE THAT
THERE IS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE SET
UP SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY
AS MORE AND MORE COMPANIES ARE
USING PRODUCTS WITH LITHIUM-ION
BATTERIES, THAT THEY CAN, YOU
KNOW, FIND THOSE SOURCES FOR
RECYCLING THAT ARE EITHER NEAR
THEM OR THAT ARE GOING TO BE
CONVENIENT TO USE.
>> Atoya McDuffie: ALLISON AS A
FOLLOW-UP, THERE'S ANOTHER
QUESTION FROM BOB, AND IT READS
CON COULD WE MINE MORE RARE
EARTH MINERAL, LITHIUM, COBALT,
ET CETERA, IF WE WANTED TO?
>> Allison Young: I THINK THAT
IMAGE THAT I SHOWED KIND OF
SHOWS THERE IS NOT A LOT OF
DOMESTIC SPLIEP IN THE UNITED
STATES FOR SOME OF THOSE
MATERIALS THAT WE HAVE, SO I
THINK IT WOULD REQUIRE WORK WITH
OTHER COUNTRIES TO FIND WHERE WE
COULD GET MORE OF THOSE
MATERIALS.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OKAY.
WENDY ASKS, PLEASE REITERATE THE
GSA WEBSITE THAT LISTS THE
ELECTRIC VEHICLES GRANT HELP.
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: SURE.
I'LL PUT IT IN THE CHAT TOO.
IT'S GSA.GOV/EVSE AND IT'S A
UTILITY DASHBOARD.
IT'S ONE OF THE LINKS ON THAT
SITE.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OUR NEXT
QUESTION COMES FROM DAVID.
HE ASKS IF ANY INFORMATION ON
SODIUM ION BATTERY DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS IS FOR YOU, ALLISON.
>> Allison Young: I AM NOT
ENTIRELY SURE.
I KNOW THAT IN A LOT OF THE
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD
WITH EXPERTS AND JUST GENERAL
RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE, IT
SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE IS A LOT
OF RESEARCH AND WORK GOING ON TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT CHEMISTRY TYPES
WILL BE THE MOST USEFUL FOR
DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, AND I THINK
THAT ALSO KIND OF TIES INTO THE
CONVERSATION ABOUT SUPPLY AS
WELL.
YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE WHO
IS KIND OF WORKING IN THIS
INDUSTRY AND WORKING ON THESE
BATTERY DESIGN DEVELOPMENTS ARE
AWARE OF SOME OF THESE
CHALLENGES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE
MAY HAVE TO TAILOR THE
CHEMISTRIES TO WHAT MATERIALS
ARE READILY AVAILABLE AND, YOU
KNOW, WHAT THE SPECIFIC PRODUCT
NEEDS AND WHAT CHEMISTRY TYPES
KIND OF MEET THAT.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OKAY.
NEXT UP, JASON.
OUR EARLY LOOK AT EV CHARGING
STATIONS INDICATE THAT MANY OF
OUR FACILITIES WILL REQUIRE
UPGRADES AT THE UTILITY SERVICE
LEVEL TO SUPPORT FURTHER
DEVELOPMENT.
PANELS AND TRANSFORMERS ARE
MAXED OUT.
WILL THERE BE PA'S AVAILABLE
THROUGH GSA SUPPORT THAT LEVEL
OF WORK?
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: SO THAT
LEVEL OF WORK WILL MOST LIKELY
ACTUALLY BE SUPPORTED BY OUR
PARTNER PBS, PUBLIC BUILDING
SERVICE, WITHIN GSA, THOSE IDIQ
CONTRACTS I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THEY'LL DO THAT DESIGN,
CONSTRUCTION WORK, THOSE
UPGRADES.
THE BPA, IT WILL SUPPORT SOME
MAKE-READY TYPE OF WORK, BUT
THAT WILL MORE BE LIKE
ACTIVATION, ASSEMBLY, SOME
BASIC, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE
STATION TOGETHER, GETTING THE
SITE READY.
IT WILL ALSO SUPPORT SOME
CONSULTING SERVICES AS WELL,
SOME PROJECT MANAGEMENT
SERVICES, SO FOR SOME OF THOSE
MORE DESIGN TYPE OF PROJECTS, I
THINK YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY
GO WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
BUT OUR TWO SOLUTIONS DO PLAY
TOGETHER, SO YOU COULD SAY THAT
YOU WANT THE WHOLE PACKAGE AND
THEY COULD DO THE CONSTRUCTION
WORK AND THEY CAN PROCURE THE
STATION FOR YOU AS WELL.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OKAY.
NEXT UP, MARGARET ASKS, WILL YOU
PLEASE GIVE US THE E-MAIL FOR
THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES?
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: SURE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SAME ONE
THAT I GAVE BEFORE.
IT'S THAT PBS-EBSE-SOLUTIONS AT
GSA.GOV.
I'LL JUST RETYPE IT IN THERE.
>> Atoya McDuffie: BOB ALSO
ASKS, IT SEEMS THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS ALSO PUSHING THE
SOURCE POWER FOR EV CHARGING
STATIONS, I.E., WIND AND SOLAR.
IS THE CORE LOOKING AT THE
RECYCLING OF WIND GENERATIONS
AND SOLAR PANELS?
THIS IS FOR YOU, ALLISON.
>> Allison Young: I DON'T KNOW
SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS BEING
LOOKED AT.
OUR RESEARCH WAS KIND OF A
GENERAL LOOK AT LITHIUM
BATTERIES AND NOT INTO WHAT
SPECIFIC PRODUCTS THEY'RE FOR.
SO I HOPE THAT HELPS TO ANSWER
THAT QUESTION.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OKAY.
NEXT UP.
RICHARD ASKS, HOW ARE THE
ELECTRICAL UTILITIES PREPARING
TO SUPPORT THE TREMENDOUS
ADDITIONAL ELECTRICAL LOAD ON
THE ELECTRICAL GRID SYSTEM?
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: I CAN
TAKE A STAB AT THIS ONE.
SO THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO
ENGAGE WITH US, WITH THE STATES,
WITH BIG COMPANIES, YOU KNOW,
LIKE THE AMAZONS OF THE WORLD
THAT ARE REALLY TRYING TO ROLL
OUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES QUICKLY.
FOR THEM , YOU KNOW, THE SOONER
THEY CAN KNOW ABOUT ALL THESE
UPGRADES THAT NEED TO BE MADE,
THE BETTER, THE MORE THEY CAN
BUILD CAPACITY AND REALLY
PREPARE.
REALLY WHAT WE ENCOURAGE IS I
KNOW WE WANT TO RAMP UP QUICKLY
FOR ELECTRIFICATION.
SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH
EXISTING FACILITIES.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT
FACILITIES WHERE THERE IS NO
CAPACITY, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THAT
CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, REALLY THOSE
ARE THE PLACES TO LOOK AT SOLAR,
TO LOOK AT BATTERY STORAGE AS
MUCH AS YOU CAN.
BUT EARLY AND OFTEN ENGAGING
WITH THE UTILITIES IS ALWAYS THE
BEST SOLUTION.
>> Atoya McDuffie: THANK YOU,
STEPHANIE.
THIS IS FOR YOU, ALLISON.
DOES THE LACK OF MINERALS FOR
LITHIUM BATTERIES IN THE U.S.
MAKE THE U.S. MORE DEPENDENT ON
OTHER COUNTRIES?
IS THERE A WORKAROUND?
>> Allison Young: WELL, I MEAN,
I THINK TO SOME DEGREE THAT
ANSWERS ITSELF.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE MINERAL
MATERIALS THEMSELVES, THEN YES,
WE ARE DEPENDENT ON OTHER
COUNTRIES FOR THOSE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO
EMPHASIZE WITH THIS PRESENTATION
WAS THAT HOPEFULLY RECYCLING THE
LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES THAT WE
ARE CURRENTLY USING AND
OBVIOUSLY AS WE RAMP UP AND USE
MORE AND MORE OF THOSE
BATTERIES, THAT JUST KIND OF
EMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF
RECYCLING THE LITHIUM-ION
BATTERIES SO THAT WE MAINTAIN
THOSE CORE MATERIALS WITHIN OUR
OWN SUPPLY.
SO AGAIN, THAT JUST GOES TO
EMPHASIZE THAT IF WE CAN WORK ON
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND WE
HAVE THE RIGHT RECYCLING METHODS
IN PLACE TO RECOVER THE
MATERIALS THAT WE NEED, THEN
HOPEFULLY THAT WILL LESSEN THE
DEPENDENCE ON OTHER COUNTRIES.
>> Atoya McDuffie: THANKS,
ALLISON.
THE LAST QUESTION IS FROM ETHAN.
IS THE GSA FLEET STILL
SUPPORTING THE HYBRID VEHICLE
PROGRAM, BECAUSE WE ARE RURAL
AREAS, THERE ARE BETTER -- THEY
ARE BETTER TO USE THAN ELECTRIC
VEHICLES.
>> Stephanie Gresalfi: YEAH, YOU
KNOW, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO
SO.
I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT, OF
COURSE, THAT WE MOVE TOWARDS EE
ELECTRIFYING OUR VEHICLES EACH
YEAR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE
NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A
DIVERSE FUELING PORTFOLIO, AND
THAT MIGHT MEAN HYBRID VEHICLES
THAT USE GASOLINE BUT ARE HIGHLY
EFFICIENT.
SOME OF THEM HAVE, YOU KNOW,
MILES PER GALLON UP TO 60 OR SO.
SO THEY ARE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE
VEHICLES.
ALSO LOOKING AT RENEWABLE DEEZ
ELT, ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER ARE
RENEWABLE BIOFUELS MAY STILL BE
APPLICABLE ESPECIALLY AS WE
TRANSITION.
WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONCE.
THE GRID WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
HANDLE IT.
I THINK THE AMERICAN POCKET
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A
TRANSITIONAL PERIOD, AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO OFFER HYBRID
VEHICLES FOR ANY FEDERAL AGENCY.
>> Atoya McDuffie: THANK YOU,
STEPHANIE.
AND THANK YOU, ALLISON.
IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY MORE
QUESTIONS, SO I THINK RIGHT NOW
WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION INTO
OUR BREAK AS WE PREPARE FOR
SESSION 2 OF FLEET
ELECTRIFICATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE.
NICOLE?
>> BEFORE WE GO INTO BREAK, I
THINK SOMEONE ASKED A QUESTION
FOR THE WEBSITE THAT STEPHANIE
MENTIONED.
I'M TRYING TO GET THAT OUT OF
OUR CHAT AND ADD IT TO A SLIDE,
AND I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN
DURING THE BREAK IN THE
BEGINNING OF THE NEXT SESSION,
SO IF YOU NEEDED THE WEBSITES,
YOU CAN JUST PULL THEM FROM
THERE.
AND WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS IN
FIFTEEN MINUTES.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS IS THE SECOND HALF OF OUR
SESSION ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND
INFRASTRUCTURE.
NOW I WILL ALLOW OUR PANEL
MEMBERS FOR THIS SECOND HALF OF
THE SESSION TO INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES.
WE'LL START OFF WITH KARYN.
>> Karyn Andersen: HI, THANKS,
ATOYA.
MY NAME IS KARYN ANDERSEN, I'M A
SUSTAINABILITY PROJECT MANAGER
AT ARGON NATIONAL LABORATORY.
IN MY ROLE I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR
SUPPORTING AND IMPLEMENTING
PROJECTS THAT FURTHER THE
LABORATORY SUSTAINABILITY GOALS,
SO THIS INCLUDES LEADING EFFORTS
IN EMPLOYEE ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING, BIKE SHARE,
CARPOOLING, FLEET, POLLUTION
PREVENTION AND WASTE
MINIMIZATION, GREEN
INFRASTRUCTURE AND GREEN
PURCHASING.
>> Atoya McDuffie: THANK YOU,
KARYN.
NEXT UP, JEANINE.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M JEANNINE SMITH, I AM THE
DIRECTOR OF THE DHS FLEET
ELECTRIFICATION PROJECT
MANAGEMENT OFFICE.
THE PMO ESSENTIALLY MANAGES THE
FLEET ELECTRIFICATION STRAT WHY
I JI IN SUPPORT OF REQUIREMENTS,
PRIOR TO THIS ROLE I WAS THE
PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE
REGIONAL SUPPORT DIVISION,
BACKGROUND IN STRATEGIC
PLANNING, PROGRAM AND CHANGE
MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATIONS
FOR BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
SECTOR ORGANIZATIONS, MY
PRESENTATION TODAY WILL FOCUS ON
DHS'S APPROACH TO FLEET
ELECTRIFICATION.
>> Atoya McDuffie: OKAY.
OUR FIRST PRESENTER FOR THIS
SECTION IS KARYN WITH
IMPLEMENTING WORKPLACE CHARGING,
LESSONS LEARNED FROM A NATIONAL
LAB.
ALSO AS A REMINDER, IF YOU ALL
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN FEEL
FREE TO ENTER ANY OF YOUR
QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THROUGH
THE SEND LIVE FEEDBACK BUTTON
AND ALL QUESTIONS WILL ALSO BE
TAKEN AT THE END OF BOTH
PRESENTATIONS.
>> GREAPTFUL THANKS, ATOYA.
CAN YOU SEE MY SLIDES OKAY?
WILL.
>> Atoya McDuffie: YES.
>> Karyn Andersen: AGAIN, MY
NAME IS KARYN ANDERSEN AND TODAY
I'LL BE DISCUSSING ARGON'S
PROJECT PLAN BEING PROGRAM AS
WELL AS BOTH CHALLENGES AND
PRACTICES WE'VE IDENTIFIED ALONG
THE WAY.
SO ARGONNE IS A
MULTIDISCIPLINARY SCIENCE AND
ENGINEERING CENTER WORK TO GO
MAKE GROUNDBREAKING DISCOVERS
AND DEVELOP NEW TECHNOLOGIES TO
HELP MEET THE NEEDS OFS ECONOMIC
COMPETITIVENESS AND SECURITY,
ESTABLISHED 75 YEARS AGO SHES
ONE OF 17 NATIONAL LABORATORIES
SUPPORTED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT
OF ENERGY.
WE'RE LOCATED IN LAMONT
ILLINOIS, WHICH IS ABOUT
25 MILES OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO, WE
HAVE MORE THAN 3200 EMPLOYEES
AND IN ADDITION CAN HAVE MORE
THAN 8200 FACILITY USERS AT ANY
GIVEN TIME.
OUR CAMPUS IS SPREAD OVER 1700
ACRES AND IS APPROXIMATELY THREE
SQUARE MILES.
ARGONNE HAS VERY BROAD
CAPABILITIES IN DISCOVERY
SCIENCE, ENGINEERING,
COMPUTATIONAL ANALYSIS AND THE
OPERATION OF SCIENTIFIC USER
FACILITIES, THESE CAPABILITIES
ENABLE FIVE TRANSFORMATIONAL
INITIATIVES YOU SEE ON THIS
SLIDE.
IMPORTANT CONTEXTS FOR THIS
DISCUSSION IS THAT A KEY AREA OF
OUR RESEARCH IS ON ELECTRIC
VEHICLES AND CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING
BATTERY DEVELOPMENT AND
RECYCLING, EVSE COMPONENTS AND
CAPABILITIES AS WELL AS HELPING
STATES BUILD EQUITABLE
NATIONWIDE ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING NETWORKS.
ARGONNE SCIENTISTS AND FACILITY
USERS DO AMAZING THINGS BUT
EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS
MAINTAINING OPERATIONAL
EXCELLENCE THAT SUPPORTS THAT
SCIENCE.
OUR CAMPUS STRATEGY IS FOR
FACILITIES AND UTILITIES TO
ADDRESS OUR HISTORY AND SEEK TO
INCORPORATE SUSTAINABILITY,
RESILIENCE AND DATA DRIVEN
DECISIONS TO MODERNIZE AND
RENOVATE OUR CAMPUS TO MEET OUR
SCIENCE MISSION.
WE DO THIS THROUGH THREE
PILLARS.
OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY, HEALTH
AND QUALITY PROGRAM,
INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES AND OUR
SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM.
ARGONNE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM
SUPPORTS WORLD CLASS SCIENCE AND
ENGINEERING RESEARCH THROUGH
INFRASTRUCTURE MODERNIZATION AND
SITE OWMENT ENGAGEMENT RESULTING
INS LESS ENERGY AND WASTE AT THE
LABORATORY.
PROGRAM CREATED TEN YEARS AGO
AFTER THE FIRST EXECUTIVE ORDER
FOR SUSTAINABILITY UNDER OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION AND IS DESIGNED
TO MEET FEDERAL GOALS, SINCE
THEN WE'VE MATURED THE PROGRAM
AND DEVELOPED APRIL STRATEGIC
PLAN AND THIS PLAN MAXIMIZES OF
THE IMPACTED OF OUR EFFORTS BY
FOCUSING ON FOUR DISCIPLINES OR
TECHNICAL AREAS.
RESOURCE CONSERVATION SEEKS TO
REDUCE OUR MATERIAL USE AND
APPROVE WASTE DIVERSION AND
RECYCLING, SMART LABS SEEKS TO
OPTIMIZE LABORATORY BUILDINGS
FOR SAFE, EFFICIENT AND
SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS, CLEAN
ENERGY SEEKS TO INSTALL ON SITE
AND PURCHASE OFF SITE CLEAN AND
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND FINALLY
UNDER OUR MOBILITY DISCIPLINE WE
ADDRESS TRAVEL TO AND AROUND THE
LABORATORY WITH GREENER
TRANSPORTATION LIKE RIDESHARE,
BIKE SHARE AND OUR EV CHARGING
PROGRAM.
OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
PROGRAM RESIDES WITHIN OUR
MOBILITY DISCIPLINE OF OUR
SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM.
IT'S PART OF A COLLABORATION
WITH ARGONNE'S CENTER FOR
TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH.
THIS GROUP'S RESEARCH PROVIDES
INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO
CHALLENGES INVOLVING FUEL
EFFICIENCY, EMISSIONS,
DURABILITY, SAFETY, DESIGN AND
OPERATING EFFICIENCY JUST TO
NAME A FEW.
EARLY EV CHARGING STATIONS WERE
ACTUALLY INSTALLED BY THESE
RESEARCHERS AND WERE INTENDED
FOR RESEARCH AND FLEET VEHICLES
ONLY.
THERE WERE SOME INTEREST BY
EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO USE
THESE CHARGING STATIONS TO
CHARGE THEIR PERSONAL CARS, SO
IN 2014H WE ROLLED OUT THE
EMPLOYEE CHARGING PROGRAM WHICH
HAS ALLOWED EMPLOYEES TO CHARGE
THEIR CARS FOR A USE FEE THAT
COVER ELECTRICITY USAGE AND
MAINTENANCE.
THIS WAS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING
THAT RESEARCHERS WOULD CONTINUE
TO COLLECT DATA FROM THE
EQUIPMENT.
THE PROGRAM STARTED WITH JUST
OVER 20 AVAILABLE STATIONS AND
12 EMPLOYEES, AND FAST-FORWARD
TO TODAY, THE RESEARCH
PARTNERSHIP IS STILL GOING
STRONG, WE HAVE MORE THAN 40
AVAILABLE STATIONS THROUGHOUT
THE LAB INCLUDING LEVEL 2 AND DC
FAST CHARGERS AND MORE THAN 115
PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS.
PARTICIPANTS MUST BE REGISTERED
AND PAY A FEE THAT'S COLLECTED
THROUGH PAYROLL DEDUCTION,
CHARGING STATIONS CAN BE
RESERVED FOR UP TO FOUR HOURS
PER DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND
OUR FLEET VEHICLES HAVE PRIORITY
TO THE STATION SHOULD THE NEED
ARISE.
OUR PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION WAS
NOT A STRAIGHT LINE FROM POINT A
TO POINT B.
THERE WERE PLENTY OF TWISTS AND
TURNS ALONG THE WAY AND I'LL
DISCUSS WHAT OUR CHALLENGES ARE
AND WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS
BEST PRACTICES THAT WE HOPE WILL
HELP YOU ON YOUR JOURNEY TO
IMPLEMENTING YOUR PROGRAM.
OUR CURRENT PROGRAM IS BROKE P
DOWN INTO THREE CATEGORIES.
CUSTOMERS AND STAKEHOLDERS,
STATION INFRASTRUCTURE MEANING
THE PHYSICAL STATIONS, AND USER
INTERFACE INCLUDING NETWORKING,
PRICING AND RESERVATIONS.
ARE IDENTIFYING WHO AND WHAT.
AS MENTIONED STATIONS WERE
INSTALLED BY RESEARCHERS FOR
RESEARCHERS AND FLEET VEHICLES,
THEY WERE NOT INSTALLED WITH
EMPLOYEE USAGE IN MIND.
OUR PROGRAM IS GROWING
EXPONENTIALLY, AND IT'S SEEN A
90 PERCENT GROWTH SINCE IT BEGAN
IN 2014 AND WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE
JOINING THE PROGRAM EVERY DAY.
WE'VE GROWN SO MUCH, SO QUICKLY
THAT WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT
TIMEKEEPING UP.
SO WHILE WE ONLY HAVE MORE THAN
TEN ELECTRIC FLEET VEHICLES
RIGHT NOW, WITH THE NEW
EXECUTIVE ORDER, THERE WILL
DEFINITELY AN INFLUX OF ELECTRIC
FLEET VEHICLES MOVING FORWARD
THAT COULD CAUSE SOME CHALLENGES
IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT.
WE'VE REALLY HAD TO TAKE A HARD
LOOK AT WHERE WE WANT THE
PROGRAM TO GO MOVING FORWARD.
FIRST, WHO OWNS THE PROGRAM?
UNTIL RECENTLY, WE HAD NOT
DETERMINED OWNERSHIP OF THESE
STATIONS.
AS WE'VE MENTIONED, THEY WERE
INSTALLED AND PREVIOUSLY OWNED
BY RESEARCH, BUT MANY OF THOSE
PROGRAMS ARE NO LONGER AT THE
LAB AND THE STATIONS WERE LEFT
BEHIND.
SO WE DETERMINED THAT WITH JUST
A FEW EXCEPTIONS, THE STATIONS
ARE NOW OWNED BY OUR OPERATIONS
AND FACILITY GROUP WITH RESEARCH
STILL BEING CONDUCTED AS NEEDED.
SO WHO DO WE WANT THE PROGRAM TO
BE INTENDED FOR?
ARE THESE CURRENT STATIONS JUST
FOR EMPLOYEES AND WILL WE
ADDRESS WAIT NEEDS SEPARATELY OR
DO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE
STATIONS CAN SUPPORT BOTH?
ONCE THE CUSTOMERS ARE
IDENTIFIED, DOES THE CURRENT
PROGRAM MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE
CUSTOMERS?
TO MOVE BEYOND THE PLAN AND GO
BRAINSTORMING STAGE AND ADDRESS
SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS FIRST
STEP WAS TO CONDUCT MOBILITY
OUTREACH CAMPAIGN WHICH INCLUDES
A SURVEY THAT WENT TO THE ENTIRE
LAB COMMUNITY, IT IT ALSO
INCLUDED HOSTING OPEN HOUSES TO
HAVE IN PERSON DISCUSSIONS AND
FOCUS GROUPS TO TAKE A DEEPER
DIVE INTO THOSE TOPICS AND BUILD
ON THOSE SURVEY RESPONSES.
WE REALLY WANTED TO GET AT WHAT
OUR POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS' WANTS
AND NEEDS WERE.
SO RESPONSES FROM OUTREACH
CAMPAIGN, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE
THAT OUR PROGRAM ADDRESSED THE
IDENTIFIED NEEDS MOVING FORWARD,
AND IT SHOWED US THAT WE HAVE
SOME BIG CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED
TO ADDRESS AND THINGS THAT THAT
TBHEED TO MAKE TO ENSURE -- NEED
TO MAKE TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN
MEET THOSE EXPURNT FUTURE NEEDS.
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT MANY OF
OUR CURRENT STATIONS ARE NOT IN
OPTIMAL LOCATIONS AS AGAIN
THRERP INTENDED FOR RESEARCH AND
NOT FOR EMPLOYEES.
IT WAS ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT WE
DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH STATIONS DUE
TO OUR EXPONENTIAL GROWTH, WE
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STATIONS IN
THE AREAS IN WHICH THERE'S THE
MOST USAGE.
STATION TYPE IS NOT OPTIMAL,
MANY STATIONS ARE MORE THAN
EIGHT YEARS AND TECHNOLOGY IN
THE MARKETPLACE MOVE FAST AND
WHAT WERE ONCE CONSIDERED
ADVANCED UNITS, WE NOW SEE
THEY'RE OUTDATED AND LACK THE
TECHNOLOGY TO SUIT OUR NEEDS.
AS OUR STATIONS BREAK DOWN,
WE'RE FINDING THAT COMPANIES ARE
NO LONGER IN BUSINESS, SO IT'S
DIFFICULT TO FIND THE PARTS
NEEDED TO FIX.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE MANY
DIFFERENT STATION TYPES AND
BRANDS, WHICH MAKES MAINTENANCE
AND GENERAL PROGRAM CONSISTENCY
VERY DIFFICULT.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO UPGRADE THE
OLDER UNITS BUT WE'RE FINDING IN
SOME CASES THAT OUR BUILDING
ELECTRICAL CAPACITY CANNOT
SUPPORT THE NEUROSTATIONS SO
IT'S A MORE COMPLICATED UPGRADE
PROCESS THAN JUST A SIMPLE
SWAPOUT.
SO WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO
COMPLETE AN INVENTORY ANALYSIS
AND ASSESSMENT.
SO THIS ALLOWED US TO FIND A
CONTRACTOR THAT HAD EXPERIENCE
AND EXPERTISE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF
THE DIFFERENT STATION TYPES.
BUT THIS ANALYSIS COMPLETE --
WITH THIS ANALYSIS COMPLETE
ALONG WITH CUSTOMER FEEDBACK
FROM THE JOWTD REACH CAMPAIGN,
WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AREAS
AND BUILDINGS FOR UPGRADES AS
WELL AS DETERMINE NEW STATION
REQUIREMENTS.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
BEYOND THE PHYSICAL STATIONS,
THE USER INTERFACE IS WHERE WE
SEE THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY BUT
ALSO OUR GREATEST CHALLENGE WHEN
SELECTING AND UPGRADING TO NEW
STATIONS.
THESE CHALLENGES INCLUDE THE
INTERCONNECTED ISSUES OF
NETWORKING CAPABILITIES, PRICING
STRUCTURE AND RESERVATION SYSTEM
FUNCTIONALITY.
THE FUTURE OF OUR PROGRAM
DEPENDS ON NETWORK CAPABILITIES.
MOST OF OUR OLDER STATIONS ARE
RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH ARE NOT
NETWORKED OR CONSIDERED SMART,
AND THE LACK OF NETWORKING MEANS
THAT WE HAVE VERY LIMITED
ADMINISTRATIVE CONTROL, SO AT
THIS TIME, OUR STATIONS ARE
ALWAYS ON AS WE LACK THE ABILITY
TO LOCK THEM OUT OR RESTRICT
ACCESS BEYOND JUST PULLING THE
PLUG.
OUR CURRENT FEE COLLECTION
PROCESS IS TO COLLECT A FEE OF
PAYROLL DEDUCTION AND WHILE THIS
IS AN EASY WAY TO COLLECT FEES,
IT LIMITS THE PROGRAM TO
EMPLOYEES ONLY AND DOESN'T
SUPPORT OUR FACILITY USERS OR
GUESTS, IT ALSO LIMITS US ON HOW
MUCH WE CAN CHARGE AS A FEE PER
PERSON AS IT APPLIES TO EVERY
VEHICLE NO MATTER IF YOU'RE
FULLY ELECTRIC OR A HYBRID AND
THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT IF
WE RAISE THE PRICES THIS WAIRKS
IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNFAIR --
WAY, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED
UNFAIR.
PART OF THE WORK WITH THE
CONSULTANT WAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT
TIME BASE PER HOUR AND
CONSUMPTION BAIPS PER KILOWATT
PRICING SCHEMES AND DEFINE A NEW
PRICE POINT THAT MEETS OUR
EXPANSION GOALS AS WELL AS
FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR COST
RECOVERY.
THIS INCLUDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF
A SPREADSHEET THAT SUPPORTS
THESE CALCULATIONS TO INCLUDE
CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE UNIQUE
TO OUR PROGRAM.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
PRICE IS NOT TOO HIGH, THAT
PEOPLE LEAVE OR DO NOT JOIN THE
PROGRAM, AS IT WOULD ADVERSING
AFFECT OUR RESEARCH, BUT NOT TOO
LOW THAT IT DOESN'T MEET THOSE
COST RECOVERY REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHILE THIS IS DEFINITELY THE
WAY TO GO, IT CIRCLES BACK TO
NEEDING THE STATIONS TO BE
NETWORKED AND SMART SO THAT WE
HAVE BETTER TRACKING
CAPABILITIES.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHO
THE PERSON IS AND HOW MUCH OR
HOW LONG THEY CHARGE THEIR
VEHICLE SO THEY CAN BE CHARGED
ACCORDINGLY.
IDEALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
AWAY FROM THAT MANUAL PAY ROLL
BASED FEE COLLECTION AND COLLECT
PAYMENT AT THE STATION OR
THROUGH AN APP.
THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO EXPAND
THE USER BASE AND WOULD BE A
MUCH CLEANER AND EASIER
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
IN ADDITION, WE WOULD ALSO NEED
TO BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE
BETWEEN EMPLOYEE, VISITOR AND
FLEET VEHICLES SO PRICING CAN BE
SET ACCORD UNTIL.
WHICH BRINGS US TO THE
RESERVATION SYSTEM CAPABILITIES.
OUR CURRENT RESERVATION SYSTEM
WAS BUILT IN-HOUSE AND IS ONLY
ACCESSIBLE WITH ARGONNE
CREDENTIALS, SO THIS LIMITS OUR
CAPABILITIES TO EXPAND THE
PROGRAM TO NON-ARGONNE
EMPLOYEES.
THE SYSTEM IS NOT TIED DIRECTLY
TO ANY OF OUR STATIONS AND IS
COMPLETELY STANDALONE, SO
CHARGING IS ON THE HONOR SYSTEM,
AND WHILE IT COULD BE WORSE, WE
DO RUN INTO ISSUES OF PEOPLE
CHARGING WITHOUT RESERVATIONS.
NETWORK STATIONS WOULD ALLOW
ACCESS RESTRICTIONS, WHICH WOULD
NOT ONLY SOLVE THE RESERVATION
ISSUE, BUT WOULD ALSO RESTRICT
STATION USAGE TO MEMBERS ONLY.
ANOTHER CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THE
RESERVATION SYSTEM THAT IS
NEEDED IS FOR FOR A MOBILE APP
THAT WORKS ACROSS ALL OF THE
STATIONS.
WHILE OUR CURRENT SYSTEM CAN BE
ACCESSED ON A PHONE, IT'S REALLY
NOT VERY USER FRIENDLY, AND IT
CAN CAUSE PEOPLE TO NOT MAKE
RESERVATIONS.
THIS AGAIN IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF
ALL THE STATIONS ARE NETWORKED.
UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS TIME, WE
HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND A
NETWORK THAT HAS A RESERVATION
SYSTEM THAT WOULD WORK FOR OUR
SITUATION.
THE BIGGEST CONSIDERATION IS
THAT OUR STATIONS ARE STILL USED
BY OUR RESEARCHERS AND THEY NEED
TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT BACK
END DATA.
AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS OUR SMART
ENERGY PLAZA, THIS WAS AN OLD
GAS STATION CONVERTED INTO A
SOLAR POWERED CHARGING HUB, SIX
STATIONS AND FOUR DC FAST
CHARGERS, IT'S ONE EXCEPTION
WHERE THE STATIONS ARE OWNED BY
THE RESEARCHERS AND NOT BY
OPERATIONS.
THE RESEARCHERS AT THIS LOCATION
ARE STUDYING THE INTEGRATION OF
SOLAR POWER AND CHARGING
STATIONS AS WELL AS LARGE SCALE
BATTERY STORAGE AND FAST CHARGE
HE COMPATIBILITY, SO AS THIS IS
ACTIVE RESEARCH, WE ARE UNABLE
TO UPGRADE THESE STATIONS NOR
ARE WE ABLE TO INCLUDE THESE
STATIONS IN AN OUTSIDE
APPLICATION AS WE'VE NOT FOUND A
COMPANY THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM
THE FULL ACCESS TO THAT BACK END
DATA THAT THEY NEED.
A RESERVATION SYSTEM THAT DOES
NOT INCLUDE ALL OF OUR STATIONS
WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ADMINISTER
AND CONFUSING FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
FORTUNATELY THERE'S HOPE.
OUR RESEARCHERS ARE CURRENTLY
WORK WITH A DEVELOPER TO DESIGN
AN APP THAT WILL NOT ONLY WORK
FOR OUR SITUATION BUT CAN APPLY
TO OTHER NETWORKS OUT IN THE
WORLD AS WELL.
SO IN THE SHORT TERM, OUR GOAL
IS TO UPGRADE OUR STATIONS TO BE
THETD WORKED SO THAT WE CAN TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THE -- NETWORKED SO
THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THE APP WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE.
SO I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
CHALLENGES AND OUR PATH FORWARD
AND WE KNOW OUR CUSTOMER BASE
WILL BE EMPLOYEES, CUSTOMERS AND
FLEET, SO OUR PROGRAM WILL
NECESSITATE A HIGHER LEVEL OF
INVESTMENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOUR PRIORITY IS
ONLY FLEET, YOU MAY NOT NEED AS
ROBUST OF A SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY
IF YOU'LL BE ASSIGN BEING EACH
FLEET VEHICLE ITS OWN STATION OR
USING LEVEL 1, 110-VOLT
CHARGING.
WE DO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO
ADDRESS OUR ISSUES BY HAVING
IDENTIFIED AND PRIORITIZED
PROGRAM UPGRADES AND EXPANSION,
AND ENSURING THAT FUTURE
STATIONS ARE NETWORKED, AND
WHILE OUR SITUATION UNIQUE, MANY
OF THE BEST PRACTICES
REALIZEDDED CAN BE UTILIZED AS
YOU IMPLEMENT YOUR PROGRAMS,
WHETHER FOR FLEET USAGE,
EMPLOYEES, VISITORS OR ALL
THREE.
KEEP THAT ROAD ON THE STRAIGHT
AND NARROW BY IDENTIFYING THE
WHO AND THE WHAT AND ENGAGING
WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS AS
STAKEHOLDERS EARLY OR IN THE
PROCESS.
PLANNING AND INVESTMENTS MAY
LOOK DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE
DEMOGRAPHIC YOU'RE SERVING.
MAKE STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS BASED
ON CUSTOMER AND STAKE
STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK TO MEET THE
CURRENT NEEDS BUT MAKE SURE YOU
KEEP THE FUTURE STATE IN MIND
BECAUSE IT CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT
AS WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING
TO FIX IT AFTER THE FACT.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
ATTENTION, AND AT THIS TIME, I
PASS IT BACK TO ATOYA.
>> Atoya McDuffie: THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PRESENTATION, KARYN.
>> THE SUSTAINABILITY TRACK.
I'M NICOLE JOHNSON A MEMBER OF
THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.
I'LL BE THE TRACK FACILITATOR
TODAY.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AGENDA WE
HAVE A PACKED SCHEDULE AND HAVE
AN AWESOME LINEUP TODAY.
YOU'RE IN LINE FOR ANOTHER GROUP
TODAY.
WE'LL WELCOME ALL DAY AND JUMP
IN AND OUT TO CATCH OTHER
SESSIONS YOU MAY BE INTERESTED
IN.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER
OF ATTENDEES TODAY YOU WILL NOT
BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATIONS,
PLEASE CLICK ON THE SEND LIVE
FEEDBACK BUTTON, THE POP UP BOX
WILL APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN AND
YOU CAN TYPE IN YOUR QUESTIONS.
I WILL BE MONITORING ANY
QUESTIONS THAT COME THROUGH AND
SPEAKERS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE
THEM THROUGHOUT.
YOU'RE ENCOURAGED TO SEND YOUR
IN QUESTIONS AND I'LL MAKE SURE
THE MODERATORS CAN SEE THE
QUESTIONS AND ANSWER THEM.
NOW LET'S GET STARTED.
>> THANK YOU, NICOLE.
I'M KEN SANDLER.
I'VE BEEN WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT OVER 30 YEARS WORK ON
SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES AND SOME
20 YEARS WORKING ON GREEN
BUILDING.
WITH THE FEDERAL OFFICE OF HIGH
PERFORMANCE GREEN BUILDINGS AND
I'LL START SHARING MY SCREEN
HERE.
CAN YOU SEE THAT?
>> YES.
>> SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE
ISSUE OF DECARBONIZATION AND PSA
HAS BEEN WORKING ON GREEN
BUILDING FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
WE LEED PIONEERS BEFORE ANYONE
KNEW WHAT THAT WAS SOME 20 YEARS
AGO.
WE WORKED ON A WIDE VARIETY OF
SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES AND
INITIATIVES AMONG THEN WE HAVE
GOTTEN INTO RETROFITS AND
DEVELOPED NET ZERO BUILDINGS.
THIS PICTURE IS OF A NET ZERO
COURTHOUSE.
A 100-YEAR-OLD BUILDING THAT WAS
RENOVATED TO BE NET ZERO AND
BEAUTIFUL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE HAVE LOTS OF GOALS.
THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION I
HAVE TO SAY HAS REALLY RAISED
THE BAR EXECUTIVE ORDER 14057
WITH THE GOAL OF NET ZERO
GREENHOUSE GAS FEDERAL BUILDINGS
PORTFOLIO BY 2045 AND THIS HERE
BY 2032.
THE QUESTION WE'LL TALK ABOUT
TODAY AT THIS SESSION IS HOW THE
HECK DO WE GET THERE.
SO WE HAVE BROUGHT THAT ISSUE TO
OUR GREEN BUILDING ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AND PSA IS LUCKY TO
HAVE THIS COMMITTEE CREATED BY
STATUTE INCLUDES FEDERAL
AGENCIES AND INCLUDES THE BEST
EXPERTS I COULD FIND IN THE
FIELD ALONG WITH A WIDE RANGE OF
EXPERTS AND ARCHITECTS,
ETCETERA.
THEY'VE ADVISED US ON A WIDE
VARIETY OF GREEN BUILDING ISSUES
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE AND A CAN'T
HELP PLUGGING ADDITIONAL
SESSIONS AT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT SYMPOSIUM THAT HAVE
BEEN INSPIRED BY GREEN BUILDING
ADVISORY COMMITTEE ADVICE
LETTERS.
THE ONE ON CARBON AT 245 EASTERN
TIME TODAY, 2:45 EASTERN TIME
TODAY MY COLLEAGUE DON HORN WILL
BE LEADING AND I'LL BE READING
THURSDAY AT 12:45 EASTERN ALL
INSPIRED BY THE GREAT WORK OF
THIS COMMITTEE.
SO THE DECARBONIZATION WAS
LAUNCHED LAST APRIL AND I BY
COINCIDENCE HAVE TWO CO-CHAIRS
OF THAT GROUP WITH US TODAY.
THAT'S CLAY NESLER AND KENT
PETERSON.
HE SPENT ALMOST 30 YEARS WORKING
ON CONTROLS ON RESEARCH AND
REGULATORY AFFAIRS AND SERVED AS
INTERIM PRESIDENT OF THE
ALLIANCE TO SAVE ENERGY AND WITH
THE NEW WORLD RESOURCES
INSTITUTE.
KENT PETERSON IS THE CHIEF
ENGINEER OF P2S A LARGE HIGH
PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING FIRM.
OVER HIS 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE
IN BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE
FIELD HAVE KNOWN FOR HIS WORK AT
ASHLEY AND WAS CHAIR OF THE
STANDARD 189 COMMITTEE.
HE'S CURRENTLY CHAIR OF THE
BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
COMMISSION DOCUMENT CONVENIENTLY
ENOUGH.
FIRST OFF WE'LL HEAR FROM MY
LEAGUE, JEREMY ALCORN.
ONE OF THE PLEASURES I'VE HAD
WORKING FOR THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS
IS SEEING MY COLLEAGUES MOVE UP
IN THE WORLD AND I REMEMBER
JEREMY WHEN HE START THE WITH US
AS A FRESH YOUNG ENGINEER AND
NOW HE'S RUNNING THE SHOW ON
SUSTAINABILITY WHICH IS GREAT TO
SEE.
SO JEREMY, IF YOU COULD PLEASE,
START US OFF.
>> KEN'S TOO KIND.
I APPRECIATE OVER THE PAST 20
YEARS AS YOU SEE THE EVOLUTION
OF SUSTAINABILITY GREENHOUSE GAS
ACCOUNTING AND IT'S AMAZING HOW
FAR WE'VE COME AND I THINK WE
TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT
PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
I THINK AS WE GO INTO THE ITEMS
I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY
AND REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT
OPPORTUNITY WE SEE AND THAT IT
TAKES A COMBINATION OF STRATEGY,
UNDERSTANDING WHERE OUR
CHALLENGES ARE AND THE
FOUNDATION THAT WE'RE BUILDING
ON.
THAT'S WHY I SAY I THINK IT'S
PERSON TO NOT TAKE FOR GRANTED
THAT FRAMEWORK AND FOUNDATION WE
LOOKED AT BUT A BUILDING WHETHER
IT'S A PROGRAM OR PORTFOLIO IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW WE
MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK ALSO IT'S JUST THE
CHANGING NATURE OF WHAT IS THE
ROLE OF A FEDERAL BUILDING AND
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN THE
CONTEXT OF THIS VISION OR
PORTFOLIO OF 2045 THAT KEN
ALLUDED TO AND WE'LL TALK MORE
ABOUT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I REMEMBER AS
KEN MENTIONED STARTING OUT VERY
FRESH AND DOING WORK IN
SUSTAINABLE CITIES WORK IN
EASTERN EUROPE AND WORKING IN
THE FEDERAL SPACE AND NASA AND
EPA DOING DOD WORK, ONE OF THE
THINGS TALKING ABOUT
SUSTAINABILITY AND KNOWING THE
GOALS AND TALK ABOUT THE
OPPORTUNITY IT PRESENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, WHAT'S OUR
STRATEGIC APPROACH BUT TO WHAT
AND WHAT THAT CHALLENGE IS?
THE CHALLENGE IS THE
OPPORTUNITY.
AS KEN MENTIONED 14057
ESTABLISHED A GOAL BY BUILDINGS
PORTFOLIO GOAL BY 2045.
THAT SOUNDS A LONG WAY AWAY.
IN TERMS OF BUILDING IT IS NOT.
IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
THE PROJECTS WE'RE DOING TODAY
WILL BE WITHIN USEFUL LIFE OF
WHAT IS IN OUR BUILDINGS IN
2045.
THAT'S A CHALLENGE AND EXCITING
HOW WE GET THERE AND THE THINGS
WE DO NOW AND IS THE
FOUNDATIONAL ITEMS AND THE
PROJECT WE MAKE WILL DETERMINE
THAT SUCCESS.
I THINK THE OTHER IMPORTANT PART
IS HAVING A GOAL IS IMPORTANT AS
WELL AS SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIC
GOALS I MENTIONED THAT GO TO THE
BREAD AND BUTTER OF BUILDING
MANAGEMENT AND HIGH PERFORMANCE
BUILDINGS, ENERGY WATER
INTERFERENCE, WASTE, THE
SOURCING OF THE ENERGY WE GET
WHETHER CARBON, POLLUTION FREE
OR ONNITE DB -- ON SITE
RENEWABLES AND FEDERAL BUILDINGS
ARE BECOMING THAT CONNECTIVE
TISSUE FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT
IMPORTANT EFFORTS AND STRATEGIES
TO REALLY REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS
AND HAVE A GOOD RETURN ON
INVESTMENT WHEN WE MAKE THOSE
INVESTMENTS IN THE BUILDINGS AND
AGAIN TO ULTIMATELY SERVE THOSE
PURPOSES.
AUTO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OTHER
PART OF SUCCESS THE NEW ROLES OF
FEDERAL BUILDING IS WHAT IS IT
THEY'RE THERE TO SUPPORT?
CLIMATE READY RESILIENCE AND
SUSTAINABLE FEDERAL BUILDINGS
HAS ABOUT THAT JOURNEY TO
SUPPORT THE MISSION OF THE
CUSTOMERS THAT WORK IN THOSE
BUILDINGS AND SERVE TAXPAYERS
THROUGH THEIR VARIOUS NEW
PROGRAMS AS WELL AS WHAT THEY
BRING TO BEAR AND IT'S ABOUT
PEOPLE.
YOU CAN RUN AN EFFICIENT
BUILDINGS BUT THE PEOPLE AND THE
WORK THEY DO IS AT THE CENTER OF
WHAT WE DO IN THE PUBLIC
SERVICE.
WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT CUSTOMER
AGENCIES AS THEY SUPPORT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND DO THAT
IMPORTANT WORK ON BEHALF OF THE
TAXPAYER.
MAKING SURE OUR WORKFORCE IS
SUPPORTED WELL AND HAS WHAT THEY
NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WHETHER IT
BE A FACILITY MANAGER OR TENANT
AND CUSTOMER WORKING THE
BUILDING.
WHAT ARE OTHER SUPPORT
FUNCTIONS?
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
FOCUSSING ON THAT.
I THINK LOOKING AT THE CHALLENGE
MOVING FORWARD IS IMPORTANT BUT
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT IS THAT
VISION OF SUCCESS AND THERE'S
DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
SO I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MY
OFFICE AND CLIMATE
SUSTAINABILITY WHAT'S IT LOOK AT
AND IT DOES COVER GREENHOUSE GAS
MANAGEMENT REDUCTION ON RISK AND
RESILIENCE AND THEN THE
SUSTAINABILITY EXCELLENCE THAT
BRINGS IT ALL TOGETHER AND AS
THAT BROADER PURPOSE AND BROADER
TIME SCALE AND WE TALKED ABOUT
THE VISION AND SUCCESS AND WE'LL
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO TO TALK ABOUT THE GOAL FOR
NET ZERO BUILDING OPERATIONS FOR
2045, THIS IS TRANSFORMATIONAL
FROM AN OPPORTUNITY PERSPECTIVE.
TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE I WORK
PUBLIC BUILDING SERVICE AT GSA,
WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST
CIVILIAN PROPERTY MANAGERS IN
THE COUNTRY.
WE SERVE OVER A MILLION
EMPLOYEES, 50 DIFFERENT FEDERAL
AGENCIES AND BUREAUS AND OPERATE
1400 BUILDINGS WITH ABOUT 186
MILLION SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE LEASES.
THAT'S THE OTHER HALF OF OUR
PORTFOLIO.
TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT UTILITIES
IS 6% HIGHER THAN THE ENTIRE
FEDERAL FOOTPRINT OVERALL.
THAT'S ON BEING CHARGED AND
RESPONSIBLE FOR WORKING ON
SUSTAINABILITY PERFORMANCE OF
IT.
IT'S A DAUNTING CHALLENGE BUT
ALSO AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE THE SEVENTH LARGEST USER
OF U.S. FEDERAL FACILITY'S
ENERGY USE AND OUR ELECTRICITY
IS IS ABOUT 4% OF THE ENTIRE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S ELECTRIC
USES.
ALL IN ALL, 2 TARAWATT HOURS IS
-- TERAWATT HOURS AND PUTTING
THAT IN CONTEXT IS IMPORTANT AND
IT SHOWS WE HAVE TO BE THOUGHT.
MOVING FORWARD.
SO SCOPE OF OPERATIONS.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF
CHALLENGE AHEAD OF US.
THAT BEING SAID, UNDERSTANDING
YOUR CHALLENGE IS THE KEY TO
HAVING A STRATEGY AND PATH TO
ATTAIN IT AND OVERCOME BARRIERS
AS WELL.
SO LET'S JUST TAKE A REAL QUICK
LOOK, GSA'S, GREENHOUSE
INVENTORY AND OVER 50% OF OUR
ENERGY IS ELECTRICITY BUT MAKES
UP 62% OR SCOPE LINE TO
EMISSIONS SO THAT BY FAR IS THE
LARGESTESE OF OUR SCOPE 1 AND 2
MISSIONS INVENTORY.
THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WE WANT
TO FOCUS ON.
THE OTHER PIECE YOU LOOK AT IS
ON SITE.
ON SITE GREENHOUSE GAS OR SCOPE
1, 90% IS FROM FUEL COMBUSTION.
THE SNEAKY PART IS MAYBE 10%
WHICH GROWS EACH YEAR AT LEAST
UNTIL WE START ELIMINATING FHCs
THE REFRIGERANT LEAKS AND WE
WORKED THROUGH THAT OVER THE
LAST TWO, THREE DECADES AND NOW
WE HAVE A NEW CHALLENGE AND
THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE
WHAT WE TALK A LOT ABOUT ENERGY
AND WE TALK ABOUT THE RENEWABLES
ON SITE AND THE CARBON,
POLLUTION-FREE EFFICIENCY AND
MAKING SURE AS WE LOOK AT
ELECTRIFICATION WE'RE ADDRESSING
AND MANAGING CAREFULLY THE
TRANSITION FROM REFRIGERANTS
ELIMINATING ON SITE COMBUSTION.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE OUR
CHALLENGE IS AND WE MADE
PROGRESS BUT IT'S HELPFUL MOVING
FORWARD.
WHAT ARE CHALLENGES AND ASSETS
AND WHAT CAN WE BUILD UPON GSA
HAS BEEN A LEADER OVER THE PAST
FEW DECADES ON SUSTAINABLE
BUILDINGS.
SUSTAINABLE BUILDINGS AND
GREENHOUSE GAS ARE VERY MUCH IN
OUR LANE AND PROVIDE EXCELLENT
FOUNDATION AS WE START TO TALK
ABOUT DECARBONIZATION AND GAS
PERFORMANCE OF OUR BUILDING
STOCK AND REAL ESTATE.
SUSTAINABILITY IS ABOUT THE
QUALITY AND BRINGING ALL THE
PIECES TOGETHER.
AS I SAID, YOU CAN MAKE GREAT
ENERGY IN IMPROVEMENTS BUT WHAT
ABOUT YOUR INDOOR AIR QUALITY?
YOU NEED TO BALANCE THAT
ESPECIALLY AS WE RETURN
FACILITIES AND THINK EVERYONE
HAS BEEN ACUTELY MADE AWARE OF
THE IMPORTANCE OF INDOOR AIR
QUALITY DURING THE YEARS OF THE
PANDEMIC.
SO HOW WE GO BACK AND MAKE SURE
WE'RE GETTING APPROPRIATE AIR
INSIDE AND MAKING SURE WE'RE
BALANCING OUR WATER PERFORMANCE,
OUR CLIMATE RISKS AND HOW
RESILIENT THAT PERSON IS FOR ITS
SUITED PURPOSE.
ALL THOSE THINGS COME TOGETHER
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE
WORKING OFF OF.
I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
GSA HAS BEEN ABLE TO LEAD
WHETHER IT BE SAFEGUARDING OUR
ASSETS, WHETHER IT'S BEEN ON
GREENHOUSE GAS AND SUSTAINABLE
BUILDINGS, BUILDING THAT FOUND
AIR, THE EARLY WORK WE'RE UP
OVER 40% OVER OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE
TO QUALIFY AS A SUSTAINABLE
BUILDING AND IT PROVIDES THE
SPRINGBOARD MOVING FORWARD.
AS WE DO THAT, JUST AS MY OFFICE
HAS TO BALANCE GREENHOUSE GAS
AND SAFEGUARDING ASSETS FROM
CLIMATE RISK, THE SUSTAINABILITY
PART IS WHAT IT BRINGS TOGETHER
KEEPING THAT INTEGRATIVE VIEW
WHETHER IT'S BE INTEGRATED
DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION OR
OPERATIONS AND LONG-TERM VIEW.
WE'RE IN THIS FOR NOT DAYS, NOT
MONTHS, NOT YEARS BUT DECADES.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING REAL ESTATE,
WE'RE TALKING BUILDINGS AND HAVE
TO THINK IN TERMS OF THAT
APPROACH AND THAT'S HOW OUR
BUILDING STOCK WORKS AND YOU CAN
SEE IN THE LAST DECADE OR SO
WE'VE MADE THAT INVESTMENT TO
NET PERFORMANCE AND THE
PROCESSES AND THE PEOPLE THAT
UNDERPIN IT.
>> ONE MINUTE LEFT.
>> CERTAINLY.
SO WE TALK ABOUT THE FOUNDATION
WE CAN BUILD OUT IN AND THAT'S
WHERE THE NEW ROLE OF FEDERAL
BUILDING COMES IN.
WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSSED ON
THE BUILDING AND THE CUSTOMER
MISSION INSIDE OF IT BUT ONE OF
THE THINGS I THINK AS YOU LOOK
OVERALL AT A PORTFOLIO AND
OPERATIONS ARE THE DIFFERENT
PIECES.
THAT'S WHERE YOU TAKE THE FEW
OUT FATHER ABOUT THE INTEGRATION
WITH THE GRID.
IT'S ABOUT THE POWER STORAGE,
UTILIZING THE RESOURCES WE HAVE
WITH GROUND SOURCE DEEP PUMPS
AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY IT'S IN
AND SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITY
LOCATIONS ARE IMPORTANT
INCLUDING CONSIDERING CARBON.
I'M AN EXISTING BUILDING GUY AND
WE OPERATE THE BUILDING.
ALL THE PIECES THAT COME
TOGETHER WITH INTEGRATION AND
CHARGING AND RENEWABLES ON SIGHT
AND EFFICIENCY OF THE BUILD --
SITE AND EFFICIENCY OF THE
BUILDING THE FEDERAL BUILDING
BECOMES A HUB.
ALL THESE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES
REALLY DO IN THAT SENSE OF SPACE
AND LOCATION AND COMMUNITY,
WE'RE ALREADY EMBEDDED IN THE
COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE VIEWING HOW IT CAN BE DONE
AND HOW IT WORKS IN PRACTICALITY
AND IT IS ACHIEVABLE.
IT'S NOT MYSTERIOUS OR A
DECARBONIZED NET ZERO BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE ONE IN YOUR
COMMUNITY IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE
AND THAT APERTURE FOR EVERYONE
TO UNDERSTAND YOU CAN DO IT COST
EFFECTIVELY AND SUSTAINABLY AND
REDUCE THE GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS.
AND THINKING ABOUT OUR VISION OR
PATH TO THE FUTURE STATE WE'RE
INTERESTED IN MEETING, LIKE I
SAID, OUR FOUNDATION OUR SUSTAIN
SUSTAINABLE BUILDING PROGRAM WE
HAVE A GOAL.
WE USE THE BEST PRACTICES AND
FOCUS ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
REFRIGERANTS MANAGEMENT, THE
TRANSITION TO REFRIDGE --
REFRIGERANTS AND IT'S ABOUT THE
FUTURE AND PATHWAY AS WELL AND
HOW WE GET THERE.
YOU LOOK AT PROJECTS.
WE ALREADY HAVE VERY STRICT
REGULATIONS AND DEEP ENERGY
RETROFITS FOR EXISTING BUILDINGS
AND ULTIMATELY COUPLING THAT AS
WE HAVE MORE ELECTRIFIED
BUILDINGS THAT CARBON-FREE,
POLLUTION-FREE EFFICIENCY.
61% OF OUR SCOPE WENT TO
EMISSIONS WITH JUST ELECTRICITY
USE AS WE GO FORWARD BECOMES
IMPORTANT IN REDUCING ON-SITE
FOSSIL FUEL CONSUMPTION.
IT'S A CLEAR PATH HOW WE REALIZE
THE VISION BUT IT'S ALSO NOT
JUST ABOUT GSA BUT THE BROADER
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE GOALS
WE'RE TRYING TO REACH TOGETHER.
THAT'S ONE AREA WHERE WE HAVE A
BROADER ROLE AND LOOK AT
PURCHASE AGREEMENTS FOR CARBON
FREE EFFICIENCY AND RUNNING
THOSE TO FEDERAL AGENCIES AND
PARTNERING AND DOING THE THINGS
I KNOW CAN AND FOCUSSING ON
SHARING WHAT WE FOUND WORKS AND
DOESN'T WORK.
ALSO HOW WE MOVE FORWARD
TOGETHER AND LEARNING FROM EACH
OTHER.
I THINK THAT PARTNERSHIP ROLE
WITH OUR FEDERAL COLLEAGUES AND
PEERS IS REALLY CRITICAL.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE CFA BUT
HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND SHARE
WHAT'S WORKING.
KEN, WITH THAT WE'LL YIELD AND
THANK YOU AGAIN.
>> SO WE ARE GOING SWITCH GEARS
TO OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE
BUILDING ON THE VISION AND
EXPANDING IT AND TALKING ABOUT
BEST PRACTICES AND STRATEGIES
HOW DO WE GET TO
DECARBONIZATION.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
>> THANKS, KEN.
THANKS TO GSA FOR INVITING ME TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE GREAT PANEL
TODAY.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK KEN
PETERSON CO-CHAIR FOR THIS
PARTICULAR TASK GROUP ANDAIR PLI
FOR -- AND JEREMY FOR HIS GREAT
INPUT IN HIS PAST COUPLE YEARS
RELATED TO BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION.
THE CHARTER OF OUR FEDERAL TASK
GROUP IS REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS
EMIGSZ --
EMISSIONS WITH CLIMATE GOALS AND
MANY WERE SET UP EVEN AFTER THE
TASK WAS ESTABLISHED LAST APRIL
THROUGH THE USE OF RENEWABLE
ENERGY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY,
ELECTRIFICATION AND SMART
BUILDING TECHNOLOGIES.
AT FEDERAL FACILITIES WE EXPECT
THE WORK OF THE TASK GROUP WILL
WORK ACROSS THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT BUT WE TAKE A NEAR
TERM AND PRIMARY FOCUS ON THE
GSA BUILDING PORTFOLIO.
SO OUR SCOPE OF ACTIVITIES WHICH
IS A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF EVERY
TASK GROUP WHICH HAS BEEN
CONVENED OVER THE YEARS WITH THE
GREEN BUILDING ADVISORY
COMMITTEE WE DECIDED TO FOCUS ON
INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS AND
CAMPUSES AND THEIR SUPPORTING
INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDING THINGS
LIKE DISTRICT AND CENTRAL ENERGY
PLANTS, DISTRIBUTED ENERGY
RESOURCES WHICH WOULD BE LOCATED
ON OR IN PROXIMITY TO THE
BUILDING AND EV CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE SOMETHING GETTING
AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF
ATTENTION THESE DAYS.
WE DEFINE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION AS OPERATIONAL
EMISSIONS.
THE MISSIONS ASSOCIATED
TYPICALLY WITH ENERGY USE OR E
REFRIGERANT EMISSIONS WHICH
FUGITIVE LOSSES OR ENDS OF LIFE
AND THE CARBON OF MATERIALS.
THIS IS THE CARBON USED
TYPICALLY IN THE PROCESSING OF
RAW MATERIALS.
THE MANUFACTURING OF BUILDING
CONSTRUCTION AND CONCRETE,
STEEL, GLASS, ALUMINUM AND MOST
OF THOSE EMISSIONS HAPPEN IN THE
EARLY PHASE OF BUILDING
CONSTRUCTION AND DURING
RENOVATION AND AT THE END OF
LIFE.
SO BROAD DEFINITION OF BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION.
WE KNOW DECARBONIZATION, THE
PRIMARY GOAL IS IN FACT
REDUCTION IN GREENHOUSE GAS
EMIGSZ BUT MANY OF THE THINGS WE
WOULD DO TO DECARBONIZATION
BUILDINGS HAVE ADDITIONAL
BENEFITS SUCH AS IMPROVING
HEALTH AND SAFETY WITH
VENTILATION AND FILTRATION AND
INCREASED WATER CONSERVATION
PARTICULARLY IN DROUGHT AREAS
AND GRID RELIABILITY AND
RESILIENCE.
THIS CAN BE DONE IN NEW
CONSTRUCTION OR RETROFIT.
OUR PRIMARY FOCUS ON THE TASK
GROUP IS EXISTING BUILDINGS AND
ACTIONS TAKEN IN THE SHORT TERM,
CALL IT THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
WE ORGANIZED OUR WORK AROUND
SUBTEAMS.
THERE WERE SEVEN PRINCIPLES.
FIRST WAS ACCELERATING THE RATE
OF NET ZERO EXISTING BUILDING
RETROFITS WITH THE FOCUS ON
SHORT-TERM ACTION.
YES, GSA WILL BE BUILDING
BUILDINGS BUT A LOT OF ACTION
NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE
EXISTING BUILDING STOCK.
DOING BACK OF THE ENVELOPE MRAJ
MATH WE WOULD HAVE TO RETROFIT
6% OF THE FEDERAL PORTFOLIO NOW
2030 REDUCING EMISSIONS TO NET
ZERO OR NET ZERO READY AND MEANS
PUTTING IN PLACE EFFICIENCY AND
EQUIPMENT AND SYSTEMS.
GETTING READY FOR A CLEANER GRID
AND GETTING READY TO ADD
RENEWABLES DOWN THE ROAD.
FOR INSTANCE, STORAGE WHICH IS
EXPECTED TO REDUCE COST OVER
TIME.
TO REACH THAT 50% REDUCTION BY
2030.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE PREFERENCE
TO BUILDING RENOVATION OR NEW
CONSTRUCTION IN THE TASK GROUP.
TWO IS OPTIMIZING COST AND
IMPACT, PLANNED COMPREHENSIVELY
TO INCLUDE EFFICIENCY,
ELECTRIFICATION AND DEMAND
FLEXIBILITY AND STORAGE AND
SOLAR.
WE ALL HEARD EFFICIENCY FIRST.
IT STILL HOLDS TODAY THOUGH THE
GRID IS GETTING GREEN AND SOLAR
PV IS GETTING CHEAPER.
EFFICIENCY IS THE FIRST AND
BEST APPROACH TO REDUCE THE
AMOUNT TO REQUIRE LESS
GENERATION TRANSMISSION
DISTRIBUTI
DISTRIBUTION AS WELL AS TO
ELECTRIFY BUILDINGS IN THE
FUTURE AND BY RETROFITTING THEM
AND CONSIDERING THE LOADING
ORDER DESCRIBED ABOVE, THIS
STRATEGY CAN BE TAILORED TO
INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS AND
BUILDING CONDITIONS.
FINALLY, MAXIMIZE THE USE OF ON
SITE RENEWABLE GENERATION.
THAT'S THE BEST AND CLEANEST AND
CONSIDERING GREEN POWER
PURCHASING THROUGH THE UTILITY,
UTILITY SCALE GREEN POWER
PROGRAMS OR COMMUNITY SOLAR
STARTING WITH PRIORITY AT A
BUILDING LEVEL, SITE LEVEL,
COMMUNITY LEVEL, THE GRID LEVEL
AND FINALLY PROCURING RENEWABLE
ENERGY CERTIFICATES AS THE LEAST
BEST BUT STILL VALID APPROACH.
CONSIDERED IMPACTS OF EMBODIED
CARBON.
REFRIGERANTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF INNOVATION
GOING INTO REDUCE REFRIGERANTS
PARTICULARLY FOR HEAT PUMPS AND
EV CHARGING EMISSIONS.
INCREASING OUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT
EMBODIED CARBON AND MATERIALS
AND THOSE REFRIGERANTS AS WELL
AS THE WAY TO PROPERLY MANAGE EV
CHARGING IS KEY TO DOING THAT
AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT WATER.
WATER IS A VIRTUE IN ITS OWN
RIGHT, WATER CONSERVATION BUT IT
TAKES ENERGY TO PROCESS, STORE
AND DISTRIBUTE WATER WITHIN
BUILDINGS.
NOW, WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT
HEALTH.
WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT COMFORT.
BUILDINGS ARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND
WE WANT TO IMPROVE THAT AT THE
SAME TIME WE'RE REDUCING THE
GREENHOUSE GAS FOOTPRINT AND
RESILIENCE BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS
A CHANGING CLIMATE AND PROVIDE
SAFE, HEALTHY AND SECURE
FACILITIES FOR ALL.
SUPPORTING SYSTEM-WIDE
OPTIMIZATION TO AVOID UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES.
CREATING A ROAD MAP.
THERE ARE MANY ROAD MAPS AT AN
AGENCY LEVEL.
THERE'S A GREAT RESILIENCE ROAD
MAP FOR EVERY BRANCH AND EVERY
AGENCY BUT THE TASK GROUP
BELIEVES EVERY BUILDING NEEDS A
ROAD MAP OVER TIME.
A PLAN FOR WHEN EQUIPMENT IS
EXPECTED TO BE OBSOLETE AND
BEING ABLE TO PHASE IN THE
IMPROVEMENTS OVER TIME AND TO
MATCH THOSE ROAD MAPS WITH THE
UTILITY PLANS FOR GREENING THE
GRID.
FINALLY, EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND
INCLUSION ARE CRITICAL ELEMENTS
OF ANY STRATEGY TO DECARBONIZE.
SUPPORTING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY JOB
CREATION AND TRAINING UNDER PINS
THE WORK OF THE TASK GROUP AND
EQUITABLE PROCUREMENT PRACTICES
AND BEING ABLE TO RETROFIT IN
BUILDINGS WHERE IT BRINGS ACCESS
TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND
DEI.
THOSE ARE THE SEVEN KEY THINGS
DRIVING ALL THE WORK OF THE TASK
GROUP.
THERE'S CHALLENGES AND BARRIERS
AND SOLUTIONS.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF
CATEGORIES.
IN THE AREA OF CAPITAL ACCESS
AND INVESTMENT, FINANCE, IF YOU
WILL, THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS SOME
OF THE KEY BARRIERS AND WHAT
POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS ARE.
FOR INSTANCE, IT MAY BE HARD TO
JUSTIFY APPROPRIATIONS FOR
INVESTMENTS THAT HAVE RELATIVELY
LOW ECONOMIC RETURNS DESPITE THE
FACT THAT THERE'S VERY STRONG
CARBON REDUCTION IMPERATIVES,
GOALS, TARGETS, PROGRAMS
UNDERWAY.
ONE OF THE WAYS OF ADDRESSING
THIS IS A PORTFOLIO WIDE
APPROACH WHERE SOME IMPROVEMENTS
CAN BE DONE WITH A MUCH GREATER
RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAN
PERHAPS SOME OF THE MORE
ENVELOPE OR STRUCTURAL TYPE
CHANGE TO SOME OF THE BUILDINGS.
BANKS DON'T NECESSARILY GIVE
PREFERENCE TO GREEN
INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT OR
GREEN RETROFITS BUT THERE'S A
NUMBER OF INITIATIVES UNDERWAY
INCLUDING THE APPRAISAL
INSTITUTE'S GREEN ADDENDUM AND
THE GREEN REGISTRY WHICH
ESSENTIALLY DOES BEGIN TO GIVE A
PREFERENCE TO IMPROVEMENTS THAT
HAVE SOCIETAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO INCOME OR
VALUE STREAM ASSOCIATED WITH
EMBODIED CARBON AND INVITE THE
CARBON SESSION COMING UP I THINK
2:45 LATER TODAY.
AND THERE'S BEGINNING TO BE SOME
AREAS SUCH AS GREEN BANK WHICH
IS SIMILAR TO A SMALL BUSINESS
ADMINISTRATION LOAN GUARANTEE
WHICH CAN BE USED TO ADDRESS THE
GREEN PREMIUM OF THOSE
INVESTMENTS.
THERE ARE NO BASELINE METRICS TO
BUDGET FOR THINGS LIKE EMBODIED
CARBON.
THE NEXT SET OF BARRIERS RELATE
TO WORKFORCE AND TECHNOLOGY.
CERTAINLY MANY PEOPLE ON THESE
PANELS WATCHING THESE PANELS ARE
AWARE OF THE SIGNIFICANT
SHORTAGE OF SKILLED INDUSTRY
PROFESSIONALS.
6% PER YEAR OF GSA'S PORTFOLIO
WILL TAKE A LOT OF ENGINEERING
AND TAKE A LOT OF TECHNICIANS
AND TAKE A LOT OF LABOR.
AND ALL AREAS ACROSS THE
CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION
VALUE STRAIN.
TRAINING AND EDUCATION MUST BE A
KEY PRIORITY AND WE NEED TO
TRAIN ABOUT BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION WHICH IS A
LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A RETROFIT
OR REPLACEMENT.
WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF
NON-STRUCTURAL MATERIALS FOR
RENOVATIONS THAT HAVE MATERIAL
ABOUT THEIR EMBODIED CARBON.
THERE'S A POLICY RECOMMENDATION
AROUND PROCUREMENT OF ENGINE AND
ENERGY AND CARBON MATERIALS
YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT IN THE
NEXT SESSION.
GSA'S BUDGET MANAGEMENT STAFF
MAY BE RESISTANT TO ADOPTING
SOME MATERIALS BECAUSE THERE ARE
FEWER SOURCES.
NOT EVERY MATERIAL YOU MY WANT
HAS THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE AT
THIS POINT.
THE GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE A
LEADERSHIP POSITION AND REALLY
DRIVE THROUGH PROCUREMENT A
SHIFT IN THE INDUSTRY BUT IT'S
HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK.
THE EMISSIONS OF THE
CONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR AND
REPLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT ISN'T
ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PROJECTS
EITHER.
AND THE LAST SET OF BARRIERS AND
SOLUTIONS RELATE TO CLIMATE
ZONES AND BUILDING PERFORMANCE
AND SOMETHING FAMILIAR IN NEW
YORK CITY NOW IS THE BUILDING
PERFORMANCE RATING AND THE
CLIMATE ZONES REALLY AFFECT HOW
GOOD YOU CAN GET FROM AN
EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT WITH
RESPECT TO ENERGY USE INTENSITY.
LACK OF LOCAL UTILITY SCALE
RENEWABLES IS A CHALLENGE IN
SOME AREAS.
BUILDING CODES, TYPICALLY DON'T
ENCOURAGE BUT THE USE OF STRETCH
CODES OR NEW ZERO CODES COULD A
VERY EFFECTIVE WAY OF DRIVING
THROUGH RETRO FIT IMPROVED
PERFORMANCE AND A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF EMISSIONS BUT RARELY
CONSIDERED.
IN MY LAST COUPLE SLIDES I'LL
GIVE A GLIMPSE WHERE THE TASK
FORCE SHED -- IS HEADED IN THE
FUTURE.
ONE IS ON BUILDING
PRIORITIZATION.
IMAGINE A MAP OF THE COUNTRY
WITH EVERY GEOSAFE FACILITY AND
MAYBE SOME DAY EVERY FEDERAL
BUILDING COLOR CODED TO TAKE THE
HIGHEST PRIORITY TO TAKE ACTION
TO DECARBONIZE.
THIS IS A SHORT LIST OF ALL THE
ATTRIBUTES THAT COULD BE USED TO
HELP PRIORITIZE IS IT GREEN OR A
DIRTY GRID, IF YOU WILL, WITH
HIGH EMISSION FACTORS.
IS THIS A COLD CLIMATE LIKE
MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN WHERE I
SPENT ALMOST FOUR DECADES.
IS THE BUILDING GOING TO BE
INVESTED IN?
IS IT GOING TO BE DIVESTED
POTENTIALLY?
THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT GO
INTO THIS.
WE HAVE A GROUP THINKING VERY
HARD WHAT DATA IS AVAILABLE FROM
VARIOUS DATABASES, HOW DO WE USE
THAT DATA TO HELP PRIORITIZE
WHERE TO FOCUS ON.
THE SECOND SUBGROUP RELATES TO
PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION.
AND DOING IT IN A SMART WAY.
WE'VE LEARNED FROM JEREMY AND
OTHERS THAT WORKING IN THIS AREA
EVERY DAY THAT WE'RE PRETTY GOOD
COLLECTIVELY AS AN INDUSTRY AND
GSA WITH DEEP RETROFIT PROJECTS
WITH PROJECTS WHERE WE GET 40%
OR MORE SAVINGS AND APPLY
MICROGRIDS AND EVEN RETROFITTED
FACILITIES TO NET ZERO CARBON.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT
GOES ON JUST REPLACING A PIECE
OF EQUIPMENT OR REPAIRING A
BUILDING ENVELOPE OR A ROOF.
THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO START
ON THE PATH TO DECARBONIZE
BUILDINGS.
THE IDEA IS TO COME UP WITH A
PLAYBOOK IF YOU WILL, TECHNOLOGY
STACKS OR TECHNOLOGY ORIENTED
SOLUTIONS THAT CAN BE MATCHED TO
CERTAIN SITUATIONS, CLIMATE
ZONES AND OTHER SITUATIONS SO
NOT JUST LARGE COMPLEX PROJECTS
WHERE INTEGRATED DESIGN AND
SIMULATION ARE COMMONPLACE,
MEDIUM SIZED PROJECTS CAN GET
UNDERWAY.
THE LAST SLIDE IS E-MAIL FOR
KENT AND MYSELF AND OR THE
CO-CHAIRS AND KEN WHO IS OUR
FEARLESS LEADER LEADING THE
OVERALL WORK OF THE GREEN
BUILDING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THANKS, KEN AND LOOK FORWARD TO
THE DISCUSSION LATER.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MENTIONED
ENOUGH TIMES YOU CAN USE THE
LIVE FEEDBACK BUTTON TO PUT
QUESTIONS IN.
WE'LL BE TAKING THOSE AT THEN.
BUT NEXT WE'LL GET TO OUR NEXT
CO-CHAIR OF THE TASK GROUP, KENT
PETERSON, WHO AS I MENTIONED
INVOLVED IN DECARBONIZATION.
WE ASKED HIM TO FOCUS ON THAT
FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
>> WE HAVE ABOUT 50,000 MEMBERS,
TECHNICAL SOCIETY, GLOBAL
REPRESENTATION WITH MEMBERS IN
OVER 130 COUNTRIES AROUND THE
WORLD INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING
GUIDANCE AND STANDARDS RELATIVE
TO INDOOR QUALITY AND COMFORT
AND SUSTAINABILITY AND CONSENSUS
BASED STANDARDS.
EARLY LAST YEAR THEY DECIDED
DECARBONIZATION WE NEEDED
ORGANIZATION ON AND WE HAVE OVER
100 TECHNICAL COMMITTEES AND WE
WANTED A MORE CENTRAL FOCUS
SINCE IT'S SUCH A BROAD
ENCOMPASSING AREA.
AND MANY THINGS JEREMY HAS SAID
AND WHAT CLAY MENTIONED, THIS IS
NOT A SIMPLE SOLUTION.
MEANING, WE LOOK AT BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION WE'RE LOOKING AT
IT AS ONE METRIC AND WANT TO DO
RESPONSIBLE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION AND NOT PAY ON
THE INDOOR AIR QUALITY SIDE OR
THERMAL COMFORT OR BIO DIVERSITY
AND OTHER AREAS WHERE WE'RE
BUDGETING FOR PROJECTS WE NEED
TO PUT THESE INTO CONSIDERATION.
THIS IS KIND OF OUR PILLARS OF
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
ASHRAE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH
STANDARD 62.1 AND OTHERS AND WE
HAVE STANDARD 100 FOR BUILDING
PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND WE'RE
ACTIVE IN THE BUILDING
PERFORMANCE ARENA AND I'LL TALK
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN THIS
PRESENTATION.
TECHNICAL TOOLS ARE NECESSARY
FOR THE PRACTITIONERS OUT IN THE
MARKETPLACE.
WHERE WE COME IN IS NOT WHERE
PEOPLE ARE MAKING GOALS BUT
TRYING TO COMMIT THEM TO ACTION.
AND CERTAINLY TRAINING UP THE
PERSONNEL OUT THERE THAT NEED TO
MAKE THE PROJECTS HAPPEN.
SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FROM A
HIGH-LEVEL STANDPOINT?
WE LOOK AT IT HIT ON A DOUBLE
BASIS.
OVERALL TO GET TO THE TARGETS
WE'RE LOOKING AT BY 2045 OR 2050
BUT PRIOR TO 2050 IS AN OVERALL
30% REDUCTION IN DIRECT ENERGY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT GAS
APPLIANCES, THINGS USING DIRECT
ENERGY WITHIN THE BUILDINGS AND
LOOKING AT A 40% REDUCTION IN
INDIRECT ENERGY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE
BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THIS
INCLUDES EXISTING BUILDINGS AND
INCLUDES ALL THE NEW BUILDINGS
TO GET TO THOSE AVERAGES.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF
ELECTRIFICATION AND FEEDING THAT
WITH GRID FRIENDLY RENEWABLE
ENERGY THAT'S GOING TO BE
THROUGHOUT AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE
LOOKING AT VARIOUS RENEWABLE
SOURCES AND IT LOOKS LIKE WIND
AND PV WILL BE NUMBER ONE BUT AS
WE GO IN THE ENERGY QUEST WE'LL
LOOK MORE SERIOUSLY AS
GEOTHERMAL AND LOOK AT OTHER
OPTIONS TO GET TO 24/7 AND I
BELIEVE DRIVEN BY LIFE CYCLE
COSTS.
AND THE FOURTH PORTION IS WHEN
WE DO THESE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT
THE BUILDINGS AS A DISPATCHABLE
WHETHER THERMAL OR ELECTRICAL
STORAGE OR PUTTING HVAC SYSTEMS
IN TO OPERATE AT DIFFERENT
TIMES.
IT'S TRYING TO MATCH THE GRID
INTENSITY WHEN CARBON IS LEAST
INTENSE ON THE GRID AND USE THE
LEAST AMOUNT WHEN IT'S MOST
INTENSE ON THE GRID.
ASHRAE FALLS ON EVERYTHING WE'VE
DONE.
WE BELIEVE IT'S NEEDED TO GET A
LOT OF TECHNICAL INFORMATION OUT
THERE IN THE INDUSTRY OF WHAT
CAN BE DONE AND HOW TO DO IT
RESPONSIBLY AND TO DO IT SO IT
MAKES LIFE CYCLE OF COST SENSE.
THERE'S WAYS TO TACKLE THESE
SOLUTIONS.
IT'S INTEGRATIVE DESIGN AND A
LOT OF THESE THINGS BUT EVEN
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXISTING
BUILDINGS, THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE
OUR LARGEST FOCUS HAS BEEN IN
THE TASK FORCE.
THIS IS THE HEAVY LIFT IN THE
INDUSTRY.
MOST HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO
DESIGN NEW BUILDINGS AND FROM AN
OPERATIONAL CARBON STANDPOINT,
WE FIGURED THOSE THINGS OUT AND
EVEN ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE
IT'S MORE LIGHT LIFT.
BUT TO GO INTO EXISTING BUILDING
STOCK AND BE ABLE TO RETROFIT IT
ACROSS THE SECTOR AND MAKE IT
ECONOMICAL, THOSE ARE WHERE WE
HAVE TO PUT GUIDANCE OUT IN THE
INDUSTRY.
WE'RE ENGAGING GROUPS WITH
EXPERTISE AND POPULATED WORKING
GROUPS WITH THESE PEOPLE.
WE'RE PROVIDING INFORMATION ON
HOW TO TURN DECARBONIZATION
COMMITMENTS INTO ACTION AND WE
SEE VIABLE DECARBONIZATION OF
EXISTING BUILDINGS AS BEING OUR
PRIMARY FOCUS AREA.
WE HAVE INFORMATION IN ASHRAE
HOW TO DO NET ZERO ENERGY
BUILDINGS FOR THE BUILDING TYPES
AND THOSE CAN LEAD US TO
OPERATIONAL CARBON NEUTRAL
BUILDINGS NOT ON A 24/7 BASIS
AND GETTING IN THE Q&A WE MAY
WANT TO GET INTO THAT BUT THESE
ARE THINGS THE TFBD IS DOING.
HOW ARE WE ACCOMPLISHING IT?
WE SET OUT TO ESTABLISH A
POSITION DOCUMENT COMMITTEE AND
WE COME OUT WITH POSITION
DOCUMENTS TO PUT TOGETHER A
WHITE PAPER ON BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION IS NOT A SIMPLE
ISSUE.
THE POSITION DOCUMENT'S BEEN
DRAFTED AND IN FINAL REVIEW
STAGES WITH OUR TECHNOLOGY
COUNCIL AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT APPROVED,
FINAL PUBLISHED DOCUMENT BY JUNE
OF THIS YEAR.
THAT'S A COUPLE MONTHS AWAY.
AND WE HAVE GOVERNMENTAL
AGENCIES AND WHAT ASHRAE IS
COMMITTING TO AND WE ESTABLISHED
WORKING GROUPS AND HAVE GONE
WITH THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE
TASK GROUP'S WORK AND THE BOARD
APPROVED THAT AND HELPED FUND US
WITH FUNDING IN ORDER TO MOVE
THE PROJECTS FORWARD ALREADY.
THAT'S ALREADY STARTED.
AND WE HAVE ISSUE BRIEF TO
DESCRIBE WHAT ASHRAE'S ROLE IS
IN THE ARENA.
THE POSITION DOCUMENT WE'RE
ANTICIPATING TO COME OUT IN JUNE
OF THIS YEAR AND ONE OF THE
THINGS IN THAT POSITION DOCUMENT
IS IT DOES SUPPORT THE
INTERNATIONAL CENSUS BY 2030 THE
GLOBAL BUILT ENVIRONMENT HAS TO
CUT EMISSION IN HALF AND 100% OF
NEW BUILDINGS BY THAT TIME NEED
TO BE DESIGNED TO BE NET ZERO
CARBON IN OPERATION AND LOOKING
AT SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTIONS IN
EMBODIED CARBON IN THE 40% RANGE
BY THE TIME WE GET TO 2030.
THIS IS ONLY EIGHT YEARS AWAY
AND COUNTING.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE HAD
AS WE START TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE THE TASK FORCE WORKING
GROUP AND LET ME GIVE YOU
DESCRIPTION ON WHAT'S HAPPENING
ON THE WORK GROUPS.
OUR DECARBONIZATION KNOWLEDGE
WORKING GROUP COLLABORATES WITH
ALL THE WORKING GROUPS ON THE
TASK FORCE AND COLLABORATE WITH
GROUPS TO IDENTIFY AND ARCHIVE
THE RESOURCES FOR POLICY GOALS
RELATED TO DECARBONIZATION AND
THE WORKING GROUP IS DEALING
WITH OPERATIONAL CARBON ISSUES
BUT IT'S ABOUT IMPROVING ENERGY
AND ELECTRIFICATION AND THE
ITEMS CENTERED AROUND THAT
INCLUDING GETTING GOOD
APPLICATION INFORMATION OUT IN
THE MARKETPLACE ON TECHNOLOGIES
IN THE VARIOUS CLIMATES AND HOW
TO APPLY HEAT PUMP TECHNOLOGY
AND THE WORKING GROUP IS
PROVIDING GUIDANCE HOW TO
MEASURE CARBON AND MATERIALS AND
PROCESSES FROM CRADLE TO GRAVE
INCLUDING REFRIGERANTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THEM BEING A BIG
ISSUE IN BUILDINGS.
IT'S ABOUT REFRIGERANTS AND
ENERGY AND WATER AND WE TALK
ABOUT ENERGY AND WATER.
OUR BUILDING PERFORMANCE
STANDARDS WORKING GROUP HAVE
DEVELOPED GUIDANCE POSTED ON OUR
WEBSITE ON WHERE THE INDUSTRY
NEEDS TO MOVE AND WORKING WITH
DOE TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE
GUIDE TO IMPLEMENT THE BUILDING
PERFORMANCE STANDARD.
AS WE ALL KNOW STANDARDS IS THE
NEXT POLICY TOOL TO MOVE PEOPLE
OUTSIDE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
TOWARDS RETROFITTING THEIR
EXISTING BUILDING AND
DECARBONIZATION THOSE AND WE
NEED GOOD INFORMATION ON THE
INDUSTRY HOW TO HELP
JURISDICTIONS SET THOSE GUIDANCE
AND WHAT THE METRICS WILL BE.
OUR GRID BUILDING INTERSECTION
IS IN THE GEB AREA AND THERE'LL
BE A PUBLICATION AND I EXPECT
THE GUIDE WILL TAKE ABOUT A YEAR
TO DEVELOP AND PROBABLY 10
MONTHS BUT WITH REVIEW A YEAR.
THE PURPOSE OF THE GUIDE WILL BE
TO PROVIDE BUILDING
PROFESSIONALS WITH THE
TECHNIQUES AND PRACTICES THEY
CAN ENABLE BUILDINGS THEY'RE
WORKING ON TO OPTIMIZE THE
BENEFITS FROM THE GRID AND
MINIMIZING THE CARBON IMPACT OF
THE BUILDING.
THE BUILDING STANDARDS AND CODES
WORKING GROUP CONDUCTED WORK
SHOPS WITH CODE OFFICIALS INSIDE
AND OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES TO
DISCUSS WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE
CARBON ARENA RELATIVE TO
BUILDING CODES AND I'LL TALK
ABOUT THAT ON MY FINAL SLIDES
AND THE WORKING GROUP IS
PRIMARILY FOCUSSED ON WORKING
WITH AHRI AND OTHERS ON
DEVELOPING SOME PRACTICAL AND
REPEATABLE METHOD FOR HVAC
EQUIPMENT AND THE APPLIANCES.
AND OUR TRAINING AND EDUCATION
WORKING GROUP IS REALLY GETTING
ALL THE INFORMATION OUT IN THE
MARKETPLACE NOT ONLY FOR ASHRAE
MEMBERS AND OTHERS AND THEY HAVE
THREE NEW THREE-HOUR COURSES IN
JUNE THIS YEAR AND OUR SITE
CAPTURE USE AND STORAGE WORKING
GROUP DEVELOPED A WHITE PAPER ON
SOME OF THE CURRENT CARBON
CAPTURE USE AND STORAGE
TECHNOLOGIES AND AREAS OF
INTEREST AND RESPONSIBILITY
INCLUDING EVEN CAPTURING STRAYED
OFF BOILER SYSTEMS ON WHAT
TECHNOLOGY MAY BE OUT THERE
TODAY TO HELP DECARBONIZATION
MOVING FORWARD.
I STARTED TALKING ABOUT ASHRAE
STANDARDS AND I APOLOGIZE THE
SLIDE IS SMALL AND WE WENT
THROUGH AND TRIED TO DETERMINE
OTHER ASHRAE STANDARDS THAT DEAL
WITH DECARBONIZATION, ENERGY
EFFICIENCY AND CARBON EMISSIONS
AND REFRIGERANT EMISSIONS AND
OUR STANDARD 189 OUR
SUSTAINABILITY STANDARD COVERS
MOST THE CHECK BOXES BUT WE ALSO
HAVE OPERATIONAL CARBON
STANDARDS IN PUBLICATION ONE
BEING DEVELOPED AND ANOTHER AND
A NEW ONE 240P NOT ON THE LIST
ON THE RIGHT AND THAT'S
EVALUATING GREENHOUSE GAS AND
BUILDING DESIGN CONSTRUCTION AND
THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD
OF DIRECTORS TO BE INITIATED AND
OUT FOR MEMBERSHIP.
THE NOTICE IS OUT BY ASHRAE FOR
ANY INTERESTED PARTIES TO
EXPRESS THEIR INTEREST IN BEING
MEMBERS OF THAT STANDARD PROJECT
COMMITTEE.
SOME STANDARDS YOU ARE FAMILIAR
WITH, STANDARD 90.1 IS
CONSIDERING CARBON ALTERNATIVES
IN THE 2022 VERSION.
WE REALIZE WE'RE IN 2022 AND
THAT STANDARD WILL BE EXPECTED
TO BE PUBLISHED LATER THIS YEAR
AND THEY ADDRESSED THE ADDENDA
AT THE LAS VEGAS MEETING IN
JANUARY AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY
GOING BACK OUT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW
AND HOPING TO GET THAT FOR THE
STANDARD.
THE FINAL SLIDE IS ASHRAE IS
DEVELOPING TECHNICAL GUIDANCE
AND STANDARD AND TRAINING AND
THE TOOLS NEEDED AND ACCOMPLISH
POLICY GOALS OUT THERE AND IF
ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN
PARTICIPATING IN ANY OF THESE
ACTIVITIES, YOU CAN CERTAINLY
SEND AN E-MAIL TO
DECARB@ASHRAE.org AND WE'RE
ALWAYS INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERS
TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS TOPIC.
>> THANK YOU.
I'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP
SHARING HERE.
>> WE HAVE SOME TIME FOR
QUESTIONS.
>> 24/7 LET'S BREAK IT DOWN
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT IN THERE.
I THINK A LOT OF THIS IN TERMS
OF GSA'S APPROACH FOR ACHIEVING
CFE AND 24/7 IS MULTITIERED AND
FIRST THING YOU DO IS FOCUS ON
YOUR EFFICIENCY.
CLEANEST BTU IS THE ONE YOU
DON'T USE.
WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT OVER THE
PAST DECADES.
THERE'S IMPERATIVE TO FOCUS ON
ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND IF YOU'RE
BURNING ENERGY YOU'RE BURNING
MONEY.
THAT'S THE FIRST PLAY YOU START
MINIMIZING THE KILOWATT OVER
NEED AND MANAGING KILOWATTS AND
MANAGING THE LOAD.
THAT'S WHERE YOU START AND A LOT
OF THE COST AND UTILITIES IS
KILOWATT HOURS AND KILOWATTS AND
THE DEMAND CHARGES.
WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON THAT
SIDE OF THE EQUATION AND THE
SOURCING.
IF YOU HAVE ON SITE RENEWABLES
THAT IS HELPFUL.
AND I THINK THE OTHER PIECE OF
THIS IS YOU START GETTING OUT
WHAT'S BEYOND THE METER AND HOW
DO YOU INFLUENCE THOSE MARKETS
AND GET WHAT YOU NEED IN TERMS
OF THE CLEAN ENERGY.
NOW, I THINK AS CLAY MENTIONED,
EACH ONE OF THOSE GRIDS THAT A
BUILDING OPERATES WITHIN IS
DIFFERENT.
IT'S DIFFERENT STATE REGULATIONS
AND REGULATED AND DE-REGULATED
AND DIFFERENT UTILITY SOURCES
AND SET UPS.
THAT'S WHY YOU START BREAKING UP
THE STRATEGY.
WE'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE FROM A
GSA PERSPECTIVE IN DOING
COMPETITIVE BUYS AND YOU CAN
SOURCE YOUR ENERGY OR HAVE
RETAIL CHOICE.
THAT'S ONE AREA AND THAT HAS
PROBABLY SOME LESS BARRIERS IN
TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO WORK
THROUGH THOSE AND YOU DO THAT AS
A REVERSE OPENING AND EVEN WITH
THE RENEWABLE REQUIREMENTS IN
THERE WE HAVE SMOKING DEALS ON
ELECTRICITY.
WE'VE DONE THE TAXPAYER A GOOD
SERVICE BECAUSE WE'RE USING
REVERSE OPTIONS TO BUY THAT
POWER.
NOT ONLY TO GET THE PRICE POINTS
AND INCORPORATE THE RENEWABLES
PART OF IT.
AS WE DO A CFE SOME ARE DUE TO
PRINCIPLES AND CFE DOES HAVE
EXPERIENCE WITH POWER PURCHASE
AGREEMENT AND THAT'S ONE AREA
WHERE YOU'RE WALK INTO A
DEVELOPER WITH A LONG-TERM
ARRANGEMENT.
THAT'S ONE WE'VE DONE IN THE
PAST.
WE LEARNED A LOT FROM I BELIEVE
THREE OR FOUR PPAs WE HAVE NOW.
SOME BIG, SOME SMALL.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WE
LOOK AT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
NOW, THAT'S IN DE-REGULATED
MARKETED IN STATES WITH VERTICAL
INTEGRATION YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT
THE INDIVIDUAL UTILITY PRODUCTS
BECAUSE AGAIN IT IS A MONOPOLY
AND ALSO WHERE OUR UTILITIES
INTERVENTION, RATE INVENTION
PROGRAM COMES IN.
WE PARTNER WITH OTHER FEDERAL
AGENCIES ON THAT BECAUSE
WHATEVER STATE YOU'RE IN, IF
YOU'RE NOT ENGAGED IN THAT
PROCESS AND GSA HAS ONE OF THE
FEW AUTHORITIES TO DO THAT FROM
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THERE'S
THINGS BEING PUT IN ON THE
COMMERCIAL SIDE AND OTHERS YOU
HAVE TO MONITOR THAT AND THAT'S
ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES WE
HAVE.
WE DO HAVE IN SOME REGULATED
STATES THEY HAVE ABOVE RPS IN
VOLUNTARY MARKETS WHERE THEY CAN
BE ENGAGED BUT THE QUESTION IS
HOW DO YOU REPORT IT AND ENSURE
THAT RENEWABLE IS BEING RETIRED
ON YOUR BEHALF?
THAT'S WHERE IT'S TAKING LONGER.
THAT'S A MULTITIERED STRATEGY
AND THAT WILL BE A TRICK YEAR
PART GOING FORWARD.
>> WE WANTED TO SQUEEZE IN A FEW
MORE QUESTIONS SO AND WE CAN GO
INTO THE BREAK IF PEOPLE WANT TO
STICK AROUND.
AND A QUESTION FOR CLAY AND KENT
ABOUT WHO IS INVOLVED IN THE
TASK GROUP AND WHAT SORT OF
EXPERTISE AND ORGANIZATIONS.
>> IT'S A BROAD RANGE OF FOLKS
AND KEN, YOU MENTIONED SOME
CATEGORIES.
ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS FOR SURE,
A FEW MEMBERS OF THE PRIVATE
SECTOR, CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES,
DESIGN FIRMS, ENGINEERING FIRMS,
THINGS LIKE THAT.
HELP IS A CRITICAL ISSUE AND HAS
BEEN A FOCUS FOR THE GREEN
BUILDING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR
MANY MANY YEARS A FOCUS ON
INDOOR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY,
FACILITIES SUCH AS HEALTH CARE
FACILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
EVERY YEAR A COUPLE PEOPLE ARE
ADDED AND ROLL OFF.
WE HAVE EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE
IN THE GROUP.
TYPICALLY WE HAVE A COUPLE TASK
GROUPS SO THE MEMBERS SELECT
INTO THOSE.
IT'S POSSIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN
MORE THAN ONE BUT ORGANIZES
ITSELF AND ONCE OR SO A YEAR THE
TOPICS ARE BRAIN STORM.
THEY'RE DEBATED.
THEY'RE DRAFTED IN A FORM
THEY'RE UNDERSTANDABLE AND THE
GBAC MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO
THE WORK AREAS.
KENT, ANYTHING TO ADD?
>> YOU MIGHT ADD THE AGENCIES
REGARDING GBAC MEMBERSHIP.
THEY'RE ALL INVITED TO BE PART
OF MEMBERS OF GBAC.
>> KENT, THIS MAY BE ONE FOR YOU
BUT SOMEONE MENTIONED HOW MUCH
GERMANY WAS DOING ON GREEN
BUILDING AND IF TO WHAT EXTENT
WE TAKE THE LESSONS.
>> WE TAKE ON LESSONS FROM
MEMBERS IN EUROPE.
OUR TASK FORCE IS POPULATED WITH
PEOPLE FROM EUROPE AND ASIA
LEADING IN SOME OF THESE AREAS
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT
REINVENTING THE WHEEL ON THE
THINGS THEY'VE TRIED TO DO.
NOW, THE WAY THAT BUSINESS IS
CONDUCTED IN EUROPE IS A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT THE WAY THE
GOVERNMENT HAS MANDATES AND THE
EUROPEAN UNION DOES THINGS AND
THE WAY WE DO THINGS IN THE
UNITED STATES.
WE'RE A LOCAL JURISDICTION,
STATE LEVEL AND FEDERAL LEVEL
WHEN IT COMES TO PRIVATE
ENTITIES.
WE STILL CAN LEARN A LOT FROM
THEM.
THEY'RE ALSO TELLING US THEY CAN
LEARN A LOT FROM WHAT THEY'RE
DOING AND THE WHOLE REASON TO
TRY TO GET A COLLABORATIVE --
THIS IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM AND
NEEDS A GLOBAL SOLUTION.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT
PROMISING REFRIGERANTS AND ARE
THERE INFORMATION ON WHERE WE
CAN GO ON THAT?
>> YEAH.
SO REFRIGERANTS WE HAD ONE
TRANSITION WHEN WE ADDRESS THE
OZONE LAYERS.
CFCs WERE REPLACED WITH HFCs
WHICH HAVE VERY LOW OR NO OZONE
DEPLETING POTENTIAL AND THE
AMENDMENT TO THE KYOTO PROTOCOL
FOCUSES ON GENE HOUSE GASES AND
THERE'S REFRIGERANTS INTRODUCED
AND SOME ARE CALLED HFOs.
THEY'RE BLENDS OF OTHER
REFRIGERANTS WITH HAVE THERMAL
DYNAMIC PROPERTIES AS WELL AS
LOW GWP.
YOU DON'T WANT TO INTRODUCE A
LOW GWP REFRIGERANT BECAUSE IT'S
INEFFICIENT DEPENDING WHERE YOU
ARE IN THE GRID UP TO 80% OF THE
LIFE CYCLE EMISSIONS OF AN AIR
CONDITIONER OR EQUIPMENT COMES
THROUGH THE ELECTRICITY THAT'S
GOING THROUGH THE MACHINE NOT
THE REFRIGERANT ITSELF.
SO IT'S THE KIND OF THING WHERE
YOU NEED TO ADDRESS SAFETY, SOME
REFRIGERANTS ARE HIGHLY
FLAMMABLE.
NATURAL REFRIGERANTS HAVE VERY
LOW GWP BUT THEY'RE LIKE AMMONIA
AND AMMONIA HAS A BIT OF
TOXICITY IS IT NEEDS TO BE
CAREFULLY MANAGED.
THERE ARE TRADE-OFFS IN ALL
THESE REFRIGERANTS.
ASHRAE HAS BEEN A LEADER IN
DOING RESEARCH ON REFRIGERANTS
AND APPLICATION AND SAFETY
GUIDELINES AND THINGS SUCH AS
THAT.
SO SIMILAR TO THE WAY
ELECTRIFICATION HAS EVOLVED AND
OTHER TECHNOLOGIES, REFRIGERANT
IS ON A PATHWAY TO LOWER GWPs
AND MORE UNIVERSAL APPLICATION.
KEN, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
>> THE QUESTION WAS GEOTHERMAL.
WHAT DO YOU ALL SEE THAT PLAYING
IN DECARBONIZATION IN FEDERAL
BUILDINGS?
ANYONE.
>> I'LL TIKE THE FIRST QUESTION.
I'M SEEING THIS.
GEOTHERMAL IS COMING ON PPPs AS
LOW AS 12 CENTS PER KILOWATT
HOUR WITHOUT ESCALATION AND THEY
SAID HOW TO DO YOU LOOK AT IT.
THERE'S A GOOD WEBSITE TO LOOK
AT POTENTIAL GEOTHERMAL AREAS
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND GO
TO YOUR LOCAL AREA AND SEE IF
THERE'S POTENTIAL AREA AND WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT DEEP WELL
GEOTHERMAL TO GET 90 DEGREES
CENTIGRADE WATER TO RUN A
GENERATOR TO PROVIDE BASICALLY
24/7 RENEWABLE.
MOST THE SYSTEMS HAVE ABOUT 8600
HOURS OF UP TIME ON AN ANNUAL
BASIS WHEREAS IF WE TALK ABOUT A
PV SYSTEM AND I'LL TALK ABOUT
CALIFORNIA IT MAY PRODUCE 15
HOURS PER KW AND THIS WILL
PRODUCE PORE LIKE 8,000 KILOWATT
HOURS PER KW INSTALLED AND WHEN
WE SAY DEEP WELL GEOTHERMAL
WE'RE TALKING DOWN IN THE EARTH
AND IT'S A CLOSED-LOOP SYSTEM
RUNNING THE SYSTEM.
IT'S JUST STARTING.
IT'S THE BIG PUSH FOR 24/7.
THE MARKET TENDS TO RESPONSE AND
LOOKING TO WHAT IS OUT THERE.
>> CONTRACT TAKE FOR INSTANCE A
BUILDING IN MARYLAND WHERE IT
WAS BUILT IN THE '90s, NOT A BAD
BUILDING BUT NOT PARTICULARLY
GREAT TO BEGIN WITH AND WENT
THROUGH EXTENSIVE PERFORMANCE
UPGRADES INCLUDING GEOTHERMAL
SYSTEMS AND SOLAR AND EFFICIENCY
AND IT'S NET ZERO READY.
AND IT'S ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY
STACKS AND HOW WE USE WHAT WE
HAVE AND BUILD NEW AND THAT'S
THE KEY TO MAKING SURE WE'RE
OPEN AND ANALYZING THEM AS WE
PUT THEM TOGETHER TO GET THE
MOST OUT OF THEM.
>> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLACE
TO WRAP UP.
WE WENT A BIT INTO THE BREAK BUT
THANK YOU ALL THAT WAS A TON OF
INFORMATION AND PRESENTATIONS
ARE ON THE WEBSITE AND PEOPLE
CAN DOWNLOAD THEM AND SPEAK TO
US AS WELL.
OUR CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON
THERE.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU TO MY SPEAKERS AND
THANK YOU TO MY AUDIENCE AND
WE'LL CARRY ON.
THIS STORY WILL CONTINUE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, GUYS.
THANK YOU FOR A GREAT
PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR
EVERYONE THAT SUBMITTED
QUESTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT
BREAK.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT SHORTER BUT
I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO ADD IN
MORE TIME AND GET MORE QUESTIONS
ANSWERED.
WE'LL BE BACK AT AROUND 2:45.
WE'LL SEE EVERYONE THEN.
THANK YOU.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
>> THE SUSTAINABILITY TRACK.
I'M NICOLE JOHNSON A MEMBER OF
THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.
I'LL BE THE TRACK FACILITATOR
TODAY.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AGENDA WE
HAVE A PACKED SCHEDULE AND HAVE
AN AWESOME LINEUP TODAY.
YOU'RE IN LINE FOR ANOTHER GROUP
TODAY.
WE'LL WELCOME ALL DAY AND JUMP
IN AND OUT TO CATCH OTHER
SESSIONS YOU MAY BE INTERESTED
IN.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER
OF ATTENDEES TODAY YOU WILL NOT
BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATIONS,
PLEASE CLICK ON THE SEND LIVE
FEEDBACK BUTTON, THE POP UP BOX
WILL APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN AND
YOU CAN TYPE IN YOUR QUESTIONS.
I WILL BE MONITORING ANY
QUESTIONS THAT COME THROUGH AND
SPEAKERS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE
THEM THROUGHOUT.
YOU'RE ENCOURAGED TO SEND YOUR
IN QUESTIONS AND I'LL MAKE SURE
THE MODERATORS CAN SEE THE
QUESTIONS AND ANSWER THEM.
NOW LET'S GET STARTED.
I'LL PASS IT OFF TO
DECARBONIZATI
DECARBONIZATION -- ADVANCING
FEDERAL BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION.
>> THERE WAS A FOCUS ON ENERGY
USE AND HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
EMBODIED CARBON'S ROLE IN
DECARBONIZATION.
THERE'S THREE OF US FROM GSA.
I'M DON HORN FROM THE OFFICE OF
HIGH PERFORMANCE BUILDINGS AND
WE HAVE WALTER TERSCH FROM THE
PUBLIC BUILDING SERVICE AND
ADINA TORBERNTSSON FROM POLICY.
WE'LL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT
GSA HAS BEEN UP TO REGARDING
EMBODIED CARBON.
TO BEGIN WITH NOT KNOWING THE
BACKGROUND OF THE AUDIENCE WE'LL
START WITH THE TERM.
IT'S EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH
ALL LIFE-CYCLE STAGES OF A
PRODUCT OR MATERIAL.
IN OUR CASE FOR BUILDING
CONSTRUCTION.
THIS INCLUDES THE EMISSIONS FROM
MINING, MANUFACTURING,
TRANSPORTATION, ALL THE WAY
THROUGH OPERATION OF A FACILITY
AND END OF LIFE FOR THE PRODUCT.
AND AS FEDERAL FACILITY AND
PROJECT MANGERS WE'RE FAMILIAR
WITH OPERATIONAL CARBON RESULT
FROM THE ENERGY USED IN RUNNING
OUR BUILDINGS.
WE'VE BEEN REPORTING ON THAT FOR
YEARS AND HAD SPECIFIC TARGETS
FOR ENERGY USE REDUCTION.
HERE WE TALKED ABOUT EMBODIED
CARBON.
IT'S EMBODIED EMISSIONS AND
INCLUDES ALL THE GREENHOUSE
GASES AS IDENTIFIED BY EPA
EMITTED THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF
THE PRODUCT.
THESE ARE CONVERTED INTO CO2
EQUIVALENT OR CO2E AND REPORTED
AS GLOBAL WARM POTENTIAL AS LIFE
CYCLE ASSESSMENTS AND PRODUCT
DECLARATIONS.
EPD, ENVIRONMENT PRODUCT
DECLARATION IS LIKE A NUTRITION
LABEL AND SUMMARIZES CATEGORIES
OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ONE IS
THE GLOBAL WARMING POTENTIAL.
I'D LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION
TO THE UP FRONT EMBODIED CARBON
AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE.
THAT'S USUALLY REFERRED TO AS
CRADLE TO GATE EMISSIONS OR WHEN
THE PRODUCT LEAVES THE
MANUFACTURING FACILITY.
WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?
THESE UP FRONT EMBODIED CARBON
AND EMISSIONS AS YOU CAN SEE ARE
FAR OUTWEIGH THE CARBON
THROUGHOUT THE LIFE EF OF THE
BUILDING IT TAKES 20 YEARS OR
MORE BEFORE THE OPERATIONAL
CARBON WOULD EQUAL THE
RENOVATION OR WHATEVER THE
PROJECT WOULD BE UP FRONT.
AND IF YOU HAVE A HIGH
PERFORMANCE BUILDING, THE DARKER
BLUE AT THE BOTTOM OF THESE BARS
SHOWS THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY OF A
HIGH-PERFORMANCE BUILDING AND
TAKES EVEN LONGER FOR THE
OPERATIONAL CARBON TO EQUAL THE
EMBODIED CARBON OF THE BUILDING
PRODUCT AND MATERIALS THAT GO IN
THE BUILDING.
YOU ALSO HAVE EMBODIED CARBON
AND SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE OF
THE BUILDING.
AGAIN, THE TOTAL, IF YOU LOOK AT
THE CHART ON THE RIGHT BY 2030,
67% OF THE CARBON FROM A PROJECT
IS FROM THE EMBODIED CARBON AND
OPERATIONAL SHOWS 33% AND THESE
ARE JUST APPROXIMATIONS OF
COURSE AND BY 2050 THE EMBODIED
CARBON STILL ECLIPSES THE
OPERATIONAL CARBON.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS A CRITICAL
ELEMENT TO CONSIDER NOW THINKING
ABOUT AS WE BUILD BUILDINGS AND
PROJECTS.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON
EMISSIONS THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE
TO ADDRESS.
SO THIS IS THE TIME LINE.
IT'S PROBABLY TOO SMALL TO READ
ALL THE DETAILS.
IN FACT PARTS WE'LL BRING UP AS
WE GO ALONG THROUGH THE PRESENCE
BUT OUTLINES GSAs APPROACH AND
TIME LINE HOW WE'VE BEEN
ADDRESSING EMBODIED CARBON AND
WE'LL TOUCH ON THESE THROUGH THE
PRESENTATION.
ONE I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS IN
DECEMBER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER
CAME OUT THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT
WERE EMBODIED EMISSIONS OF
PRODUCTS AND CALLS FOR THE TASK
FORCE.
THAT SET POLICY BUT GSA WE
STEPPED OUT AHEAD OF THIS AND
WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.
SO OUR JOURNEY WITH EMBODIED
CARBON WE STARTED BACK IN 2020.
WE HAVE A GREEN BUILDING
ADVISORY COMMITTEE BUILDING MADE
OF FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES THAT
ARE A GROUP OF EXPERTS THAT MAKE
RECOMMENDATION S TO GSA AND THEY
DECIDED EMBODIED CARBON WAS
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE
EVALUATE.
THEY SPENT NINE OR 10 MONTHS
LOOKING AT ALL THE ISSUES
SURROUNDING EMBODIED CARBON AND
WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CONSIDER
THIS IN BUILDING PROJECTED.
WE CAME UP WITH TWO POLICY
RECOMMENDATIONS.
OTHERS IN THE LETTER AND TWO
PRIMARY RECOMMENDATIONS THEY
MADE.
ONE IS THAT ALL PROJECTS COULD
TAKE A MATERIAL APPROACH BY
REQUIRING THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PRODUCT DECLARATIONS FOR A LARGE
PORTION OF THE MATERIALS IN THE
PRODUCT AND THE EMISSIONS SHOULD
FALL IN THE 80% OF THE GLOBAL
WARMING POTENTIAL SAYING DON'T
USE THIS BIGGEST MATERIALS WITH
THE GREATEST EMISSIONS AND DERM
WHICH ARE NOT THE WORSE PRODUCTS
BUT LEAVING IT OPEN WITH 80% TOP
PERFORMING.
THIS WOULD BE DEMONSTRATED
THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PRODUCT DECLARATIONS.
THE OTHER APPROACH WAS FOR NEW
CONSTRUCTION AND MAJOR
RENOVATION PROJECTS.
THE LARGE PROJECTS TO DO A WHOLE
BUILDING LIFE CYCLE ASSESSMENT.
THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE
TOTAL CARBON FROM UP FRONT
EMBODIED CARBON THROUGH
OPERATIONAL THROUGH END OF LIFE
WHERE POSSIBLE AND SHOW THE LIFE
CYCLE CARBON ASSESSMENT HAS A
20% REDUCTION FROM A BASELINE
BUILDING.
THOSE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OKAY, HOW
DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS?
DOES THIS REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR
GSA.
IN JUNE AS A FOLLOW-UP WE HOSTED
A ROUNDTABLE THAT HAD MORE THAN
50 INDUSTRY AND GOVERNMENT
EXPERTS REALLY TO HELP US LOOK
AT THIS AND SEE WHAT ARE
PRACTICAL STRATEGIES THAT WE
COULD DO RIGHT AWAY MOVING
TOWARDS ADDRESSING EMBODIED
CARBON IN OUR GSA PROJECTS.
THEY CAME UP WITH APPROXIMATELY
80 OR MORE RECOMMENDATIONS AND
WE KIND OF GROUPED THEM TOGETHER
AND CAME UP WITH THESE PRIMARY
RECOMMENDATIONS HERE I'LL REVIEW
QUICKLY.
ONE IS TO REALLY SEND A MESSAGE
TO MARKET THAT TOTAL CARBON IS A
PRIORITY METRIC FOR GSA.
NOT JUST THE OPERATIONAL
GREENHOUSE GASES BUT EMBODIED
CARBON AS WELL.
AND THE VALUE OF RE-USING
HISTORIC AND EXISTING BUILDINGS
AND OTHERS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT
THE UP FRONT CARBON.
AND CONSIDER EMBODIED CARBON IN
MAKING OUR FINAL MATERIAL
SELECTIONS.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO
REQUIRE THE ENVIRONMENT PRODUCT
DECLARATIONS AND WHERE
APPROPRIATE AND THE ASSESSMENT
AND IF WE SHOULD START THAT AS
EARLY STAGES OF POSSIBLE TO HELP
INFLUENCE HOW THINGS MOVE
FORWARD FOR GSA.
GUIDANCE HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE
BY DESIGN TEAMS AND WHAT TOOLS
COULD BE USED AND GET SOME
CONSISTENCY AND VALUE FROM THAT
WORK.
AND THEN THAT BRINGS UP THE
QUESTION OF BENCHMARKING
EMBODIED CARBON BENCHMARKING.
WE NEED TARGETS BASED ON
EXISTING PROJECTS AND DATA
COLLECTION SO WE CAN SET TARGETS
FOR PROJECT TEAMS TO MEET AND WE
ARE RUNNING THE SHOW RATHER THAN
LETTING THE DESIGNERS OR OTHERS
TELL US WHAT THEY CAN REDUCE.
I THINK WE CAN STILL DO THAT BUT
SET TARGETS FOR THEM TO AIM FOR.
ANOTHER IS TO CONSIDER THE
LINKAGE ARE HUGE AND GSA SHOULD
BE HOSTING EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS
INTERNALLY FOR GSA AND FOR THE
BROADER INDUSTRY TO HELP EXPLAIN
OUR APPROACH AND RECOMMENDATIONS
WE HAVE AND REQUIREMENTS WE SET
FOR EMBODIED CARBON IN OUR
MATERIALS.
>> WE ARE TRYING TO SEE WHAT IS
THE LOW-HANGING FRUIT WE CAN
SEEK TO ADVANCE AND MAKE SOME
IMPACT AND CHANGES THROUGH
IMPLEMENTATION.
WE STOOD UP A GROUP IN DECEMBER
AND MET EVERY TWO WEEKS SINCE
THEN AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES
AS WELL AS THE OFFICE OF
GOVERNMENT-WIDE POLICY.
TO IDENTIFY AN ACT ON KEY
INITIATIVES WE FOUND THREE
INITIAL FOCUS AREAS WE'VE BEEN
WORK FEVERISHLY ON EVER SINCE TO
DECARBONIZE THE MAJOR PROJECTS
AND IMPLEMENTING THE WHOLE
BUILDING LIFE CYCLE ASSESSMENT
APPROACH DON MENTION.
WE STOOPED A NEW EMBODIED CARBON
MEASURE AND FOR THE MATERIAL
APPROACH WE HAVE A GOAL OF
REDUCING EMBODIED CARBON OF OUR
PURCHASED PRODUCTS.
FOR OUR PROJECTS NOT JUST THE
SMALLER ONES WE ARE LEVERAGING
ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT
DECLARATIONS AND STARTING WITH
MATERIALS AND THE NEXT REAL
CHAPTER IS FACTORING EMBODIED
CARBON INTO OUR PROCESSES.
THERE'S A LONG AND WINDING
FIVE-YEAR OR SO PROCESS FROM THE
TIME GSA AGENCIES SAYS WE'D LIKE
MORE OFFICE SPACE BY THE TIME WE
GET THE FUNDING FOR THE DESIGN.
WE'D LIKE TO BE MORE SYSTEMATIC
AND AFFECTING THE DECISION OF
OKAY, THEY NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT
OF SPACE, IS THERE AN EXISTING
BUILDING WE CAN USE FOR THIS TO
AVOID ALL THE CARBON ASSOCIATED
WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AFTER WE STOOD UP OUR TASK FORCE
WE HAVE A HIGH-LEVEL SECTION ON
DECARBONIZATION BECAUSE WE WERE
STILL FIGURING OUT THE NUTS AND
BOLTS AND CONSIDER HIGH CARBON
MATERIALS LIKE CONCRETE AND
STEEL AND WHEN WE UPDATE THIS
YEAR WE'LL UPDATE THOSE.
IN NOVEMBER CONGRESS SIGNED THE
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND
JOBS ACT.
GSA GOT $3.4 MILLION FOR
PROJECTS ALONG THE CANADIAN AND
MEXICAN BORDERS.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED BAYS IT'S AN
OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY IMPROVE
THE SECURITY OF THESE IMPORTANT
NATIONAL SECURITY BORDER
STATIONS BUT FIND OPPORTUNITIES
TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE FOR THE
PRIVATE SECTOR IN TERMS OF
WHAT'S POSSIBLE IN INTEGRATED
SUSTAINABLE DESIGN AND GREENER
MATERIALS AND IMPROVE RESILIENCE
WITH ONSITE RENEWABLES AND
STORAGE AND THINGS WE'RE WORKING
ON TO MAKE THE MOST OF THE
OPPORTUNITY.
IN DECEMBER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER
14057 HAS A SECTION ABOUT
PROMOTING CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS
WITH LOWER EMBODIED EMISSIONS.
WE'RE ACTIVELY DOING THAT AND
PARTICIPATING ON THE INTERACTION
TEST AND ADVISORY GROUP.
WE KNEW WE'D DO PAVING FROM THE
NEW PROJECTS AND WE FOUND OUT
NOT ONLY CONCRETE AND SOME
ASPHALT IS BEING USED OAR IN THE
PORTS OF ENTRY AND WE WANTED TO
HEAR IT STRAIGHT FROM THE
MANUFACTURERS THEMSELVES WE
REQUESTED INFORMATION AND HAVE
NINE MULTI-PART QUESTIONS AND
THEY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT ARE YOU
A SMALL BUSINESS.
HAVE YOU PRODUCED AN
ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCTS
DECLARATION AND CARBON AND
CONCRETE AND ASPHALT?
THE REASON WE CARE ABOUT
CONCRETE IS BECAUSE IT'S THE
MOST USED MATERIAL.
IF IT WERE THE COUNTRY IT'D HAVE
THE THIRD LARGEST CARBON
FOOTPRINT AND WE ARE STARTING
WITH THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT
OF PROJECTS AND WE USE CONCRETE
IN THE FOUNDATIONS, ETCETERA.
WE APPRECIATE THE WE RECEIVED
THE INPUT ABOUT 130 RESPONDENTS
AND 110 WERE MANUFACTURERS AND
CONSULTANTS AND COMPANIES THAT
PRODUCED ADDITIVES OR ADVOCACY
GROUPS.
OVER 80% THAT RESPONDED SAY
THEY ALREADY PRODUCE LOW-CARBON
AND EPDs.
THAT WAS STILL A PROMISING SIGN.
COST COMPETITIVENESS WAS
SOMETHING WE WERE POSITIVE
ABOUT.
YOU'RE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF
CEMENT WHICH IS THE MOST
EXPENSIVE PART AND SOMETIMES YOU
CAN SAVE GREEN BY BEING GREEN
AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING WE'LL SEE
AS WE START TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW
STANDARDS.
THE MAJORITY ALSO SAID THEY USE
CARBON RE-USING TERLSZ AND A
THIRD SUPPLIERS AND IN ASPHALTS
WE LEARN ABOUT THE PRACTICES AND
TECHNIQUES ALREADY IN USE SUCH
AS TECHNOLOGY AND A MAJORITY OF
THE ASPHALT RESPONDENTS SAID
THEIR OPTIONS TO REDUCE
MATERIALS AND ENVIRONMENTAL
FOOTPRINT COST THE SAME OR LESS
AS ENVIRONMENTAL EQUIVALENT AND
GREENER ASPHALT IS CHEAPER IF
YOU PARDON THE CLICHE.
USED THE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION
FOR NEW STANDARDS AND THE RED
DOTS IS WHERE WE HAVE CONCRETE
MANUFACTURERS WITH ENVIRONMENTAL
PRODUCT DECLARATIONS.
THESE ARE COMPANIES THAT DID
HAVE THEIR EPDs AVAILABLE IN A
CENTRAL DATABASE.
AND BLUE IS WHERE WE HAVE THE
BORDER STATION PROJECTS.
THERE'S SOME IN CALIFORNIA AND
WE'RE HOPEFUL BY ASKING YOU
SHALL RECEIVE AND GSA CARES
ABOUT LOWER EMBODIED PRODUCTS
AND WE'LL SEE MORE AVAILABILITY.
WE'RE HOPEFUL WE'LL START USING
OUR POWER FOR GOOD FOR THE
PURCHASING POWER TO MOVE THE
MARK
MARKET.
SO HERE'S A SNAPSHOT OF EXACTLY
WHAT OUR NEW CONCRETE STANDARDS
WERE A WEEK OR TWO AGO.
TO APPLY FOR OUR PROJECTS BOTH
INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS
REGULAR, SMALL AND CAPITAL
PROJECTS USING AT LEAST 10 CUBIC
YARDS OF MATERIALS MORE THAN A
TRUCK'S WORTH OF CONCRETE OR
ASPHALT.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STARTING AND
WE'RE SAYING FOR EPDs AND LOWER
CARBON CONCRETE THE 20% LOWER
THAN BASELINE IS PROPOSED
LANGUAGE FROM THE SINSTITUTE.
THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND
GSA DECIDED LET'S SEE IF WE CAN
MEET WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING BY
20% AND THE 75 PERCENTILE SO A
CONSERVATIVE OR MODEST GOAL AND
WE'RE HOPEFUL IT WILL BE FAIRLY
NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THE NATIONAL
AVERAGE BASED ON THE GLOBAL
WARMING POTENTIAL.
AND HAD PUT QUESTIONS IN THE
CHAT IF I'M RAISING QUESTIONS WE
HAVE TIME ALLOCATED FOR PLENTY
OF Q&A.
FOR ASPHALT WE'RE ALSO
REQUESTING ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT
DECLARATIONS NOW AND PLEASE TELL
US WHICH OF THESE OF THESE
READILY AVAILABLE OPTIONS
THEY'RE RESPONDING AND WE HAVE
ONE WITH MIXED TECHNOLOGY AND
BIO BASED BINDERS AND RECYCLED
CONTENT AND ROOF TILES AND
ROOFING SHINGLES.
THESE TYPES OF THINGS ARE PRETTY
READILY AVAILABLE AS WELL.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO DEPARTMENT
OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE
FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION
AND SHOWING THE BINDERS ARE HALF
ASPHALTS WHERE POTENTIAL EXISTS
BECAUSE THEY'RE PETROLEUM BASED.
AND THERE'S A SLIGHT COST AND
MAY TAKE MORE TIME, WHATEVER.
WE'RE LEARNING FROM THEM AND YOU
CAN SEE THE BAR CHAT THERE
SHOWING CONCRETE ON A GLOBAL
SCALE AS A LARGE CARBON
FOOTPRINT.
SO FOR THE LARGE PROJECTS THIS
IS WHERE WE TAKE THE WHOLE
BUILDING LIFE CYCLE ASSESSMENT
APPROACH.
AND MAJOR SYSTEMS WE'RE ASKING
OUR DESIGNERS TO TARGET 20%
REDUCTION IN THE BUILDINGS
EMBODIED CARBON BASED ON HOW
THEY'RE DESIGNED AND COMPARING
AGAINST THE DESIGN.
WE DON'T HAVE BASELINE
INFORMATION ON MORE THAN TWO OR
THREE OF OUR BUILDINGS CARBON
BASELINES PER SQUARE FOOT SO
WE'RE STARTING TO GATHER AND
SAYING COMPARED TO A CODE CLIENT
HYPOTHETICAL CONVENTIONAL
BUILDING DO 20% BETTER AND TELL
US WHAT THE BASELINE IS AND WHAT
THE DESIGN IS WE'RE ASKING THE
DESIGNERS TO COMPARE THE
STRUCTURE AND ENCLOSURE WITH THE
PROPOSED FACILITY AND TELL US
WHAT ESTIMATION TOOL YOU'RE
USING AND LIST AT THE BOTTOM OF
THE SLIDE.
AND THERE'S EC3 AND CYCLE
ASSESSMENT AND THE IMPACT
ESTIMATOR ARE SOME OF THE ONES
THAT WE RECOGNIZE AS BEING USED
BOTH FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AND SUBSEQUENT MARKET RESEARCH.
AND WE ALSO REQUIRE THEM TO EARN
THE BUILDING LIFE CYCLE IMPACT
REDUCTION CREDIT.
THERE'S A BUILDING LIFE CYCLE
ADOPTION AND IT REQUIRES THE
STRUCTURE ENCLOSURE BE MOUNTED.
SO THE LEAD CREDIT HAS MORE
TEETH INTO THIS NEW STANDARD
WHICH WE ARE ASKING PROJECTS TO
INCLUDE IN THEIR SCOPES OF WORK
AND BOTH THE MATERIAL APPROACH
AND THE BUILDING APPROACH ARE
CURRENTLY IN THE TEMPLATES OUR
REGIONAL FOLKS ARE USING.
SO THE PIE CHART AT THE BOTTOM
RIGHT SHOWS HOW IN OUR PROJECTS
FROM A COUPLE YEARS AGO
FOUNDATIONS WERE OVER HALF
TWO-THIRDS OF THE GLOBAL WARMING
POTENTIAL IS THE FOUNDATIONS ARE
MADE OF CONCRETE AND YOU CAN SEE
THINGS ARE RELATIVELY SMALL.
BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO ADINA
TO TALK ABOUT THE ACQUISITION
PIECE I WANT TO SHOW MORE THAT
ONE OF OUR GREEN BUILDING
ADVISORY COMMITTEE PARTICIPANTS
WAS A PROJECT MANAGER VERY
INTERESTED IN SUSTAINABILITY AND
HAS EXPERIENCE IN GSA'S NEW NET
ZERO DECARBONIZED BUILDING
PROJECTS IN THE PAST COUPLE
YEARS AND THAT PROJECT MANAGER'S
INCORPORATING THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE MATERIAL
SPECIFIC ONES AND THE CORE
BUILDING REDUCTION PIECE INTO
THREE-PILOT PROJECTS.
AND THE OFFICE BUILDING
ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED DURING
WORLD WAR II, HISTORIC
PRESERVATION OF A COURTHOUSE IN
SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH AND A
CONSTRUCTION OF A LABORATORY IN
DENV
DENVER.
THE PIE CHARTS SORT OF SHOW IN
ANOTHER RECENT GSA PROJECT
REPLACING THE WHOLE FACADE ON
EXISTING MODERN OFFICE TOWER AND
BASICALLY GUT THE BUILDING AND
KEEP THE CORE STRUCTURE AND TURN
IT INTO PRACTICAL WHOLE NEW
BUILDING BUT COMPARED TO A WHOLE
NEW BUILDING WE CUT THE CARBON
FOOTPRINT IN HALF.
I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE
DESIGNERS WHO HAVE MORE
EXPERTISE IN THE FIELD BUT I CAN
RECOGNIZE THEIR ANALYSIS SHOWED
A TREMENDOUS REDUCTION IN THE
AMOUNT OF CARBON INVOLVED
BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED.
THEY WERE ABLE TO RE-USE THE
BUILDING AND TRANSFORM IT INTO
SOMETHING NEW AND SUSTAINABLE
AND IN PORTLAND, OREGON THERE'S
A SUCCESS STORY THE PAST 10
YEARS.
>> THANK YOU, WALTER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO BASICALLY
HOW WE ADDRESS EMBODIED
EMISSIONS THROUGH ACQUISITION.
TO TOUCH ON WHAT WALTER
REFERENCED WITH EXECUTIVE ORDER
14057 PRIOR WE ALSO HAD 14030 AS
WELL AS 14008.
ALL THREE EXECUTIVE ORDERS
HIGHLIGHTED THE POWER OF
PROCUREMENT TO INITIATE CHANGE
AND PRIOR TO GSA ADOPTING OUR
REQUIREMENTS FOR EMBODIED
EMISSIONS OUR AGENCY ISSUES A
CHANGE TO THE GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION'S ACQUISITION
MANUAL OR GSAM.
THIS CHANGE ADDRESSED
SUSTAINABILITY AT THE
ACQUISITION PLANNING STAGE.
AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT
PARTICIPATED IN THE ACQUISITION
PLANNING YET YOU HAVE PLANNING
AND SOLICITATION AND AWARD AND
POST-AWARD.
BY ADDRESSING THIS WE'RE ABLE TO
ADDRESS IT EARLY ON IN THE
PROCESS AND GET STAKEHOLDERS
TOGETHER TO DETERMINE WHAT THE
BEST POTENTIAL OUTCOME COULD BE
FOR THE GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS
THE BEST USE FOR TAXPAYERS AS WE
MOVE INTO MAKING CHOICES THAT
ARE MORE SUSTAINABLE.
THE OTHER PART OF THIS AS WELL
CHANGING THE WAY THE ACQUISITION
PROFESSIONALS VIEW SUSTAINABLITY
AND INCLUDED WHO THE
STAKEHOLDERS WOULD BE AND HOW TO
INTERACT.
IF WE HAVE A HIGH PROFILE OR
HIGH DOLLAR ACQUISITION IT GOES
THROUGH A REVIEW BOARD AND NOW
INCLUDES THE CHIEF
SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER DESIGNEE
AND COLLABORATES AND GETS
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AS TO
WHAT THE BEST APPROACH WOULD BE
TO HAVE A SUSTAINABLE OUTCOME
AND THE OTHER THING WE DID WAS
TO ENCOURAGE PROFESSIONALS TO
START THINKING OF SUSTAINABILITY
FROM A DIFFERENT LENS THAN
PREVIOUSLY.
WHAT I MEAN IS CURRENTLY THERE'S
DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT
SUSTAINABILITY LIKE THE ENERGY
STAR PROGRAM AND ALSO LET THEM
THINK ABOUT IT FROM A STRATEGIC
STANDPOINT AND ECONOMIC IN TERMS
OF CREATION OF DEMAND.
SOME CHANGES WE'RE LOOKING AT
FOR EXAMPLE FOR THE EMBODIED
EMISSIONS PRODUCTS FOR BUILDING
MATERIALS IS TO CREATE DEMAND
FOR THE PRODUCTS AND THE GREAT
PLAINS AREA DOES NOT SHOW AFTER
PLANT MAKING THE CHANGES BUT
SOME MAY BE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T
BEEN ASKED TO DO SO.
AND CREATING DEMAND AND WHERE
THE AVAILABILITY OF A PRODUCT
AND ASKED INDUSTRY PARTNERS TO
MODIFY HOW THEY PRODUCE
CONSIDERATIONS NOW BEING BROUGHT
INTO ACQUISITION AS GSA MOVES
FORWARD.
WE SENT OUT A LETTER THAT
ESTABLISHED THE SUSTAINABLE
ACQUISITION INNOVATION
INITIATIVE.
THIS INITIATIVE IS NOT A PILOT
PROGRAM WITHIN GSA BECAUSE WE
WANT TO GO LONGER IN DURATION
THAN A TYPICAL PILOT BUT TO ASK
OUR CONTRACT OFFICERS TO START
VIEWING SUSTAINABILITY IN A
DIFFERENT LIGHT WE HAVE THE
ACQUISITION MANUAL TO PROVIDE
GUIDANCE AS WELL AS THE
ACQUISITION LETTER IN WHICH WE
HIGHLIGHT GOALS TO CONSIDER WHEN
PLANNING THEIR ACQUISITION.
SUCH GOALS INCLUDED IF THEY WANT
TO START UTILIZING EVALUATION
FACTORS THE MATERIALS THEY'RE
BUYING SO THAT WOULD FALL INTO
THIS CATEGORY OF LOW EMBODIED
EMISSIONS IF THERE WAS A METHOD
TO PROVIDE EITHER A SUPPLY OR
SERVICE WITH POTENTIALLY A LOWER
IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT TO
CONSIDER OR LEARN FROM EACH
OTHER TO COLLECT DATA AND THEN
AND LOOKING AT ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE WHEN PLANNING FOR
ACQUISITIONS.
WE HAD MULTIPLE ACQUISITIONS AT
OUR AGENCY PARTICIPATE.
AND ASKING DIFFERENT BUYING
GROUPS TO LOOK AT HOW THEY CAN
BUY OR MAKE MORE SUSTAINABLE
CHOICES OR CREATE DEMAND.
AND BASICALLY WE HAVE AN INTAKE
SERVICE THEY COMPLETE.
THEY SUBMIT THE PROJECT AND
WE'RE ASKING WHERE THEY
CONSIDER SUSTAINABILITY AND ARE
THEY UTILIZING IT TO DECIDE WHO
THEY WANT TO AWARD TO?
ARE THEY UTILIZING IT AS A
DELIVERABLE WHICH WOULD THEN BE
A POST-AWARD.
IT HIGHLIGHTS WHERE THE
SUSTAINABILITY FACTORS IN DURING
THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE
ACQUISITION.
ONE YEAR POST AWARD WE ASK OUR
CONTRACTING OFFICERS IF THEY
WOULD TAKE THE SAME APPROACH
MOVING FORWARD IF THEY HAVE THE
OUTCOME THEY ANTICIPATED AND ASK
FOR THE OUTCOME FROM AN
ENVIRONMENT STANDPOINT.
AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO
DOCUMENT THE METHOD THEY USED TO
PROCURE IT FOUND IT RELATIVELY
EASY.
I WANT THEM TO TELL ME THEY WERE
ABLE TO GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL
OUTCOME WHICH COULD BE REDUCING
EMISSIONS OR WASTE USING MORE
RECYCLED CONTENT.
THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE ASKED A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO
THAT AND HAVE WHAT THE
LIKELIHOOD IS THEY'LL ADOPT THAT
MOVING FORWARD.
FROM THAT DATA WE PLAN ON TAKING
THE INFORMATION AND DEVELOP BEST
PRACTICES WHICH COULD RESULT IN
ANOTHER GSAM CHANGE MOVING
FORWARD TO INSTRUCT OUR
PROGRAMMING OFFICERS HOW TO
PROCEED.
WE WANT OUR CONTRACTING OFFICERS
TO THINK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY IN
A DIFFERENT LIGHT AND CONSIDER
THINGS OTHER THAN PRICE ALONE.
OFTEN PRICE DOES DICTATE HOW AN
ACQUISITION WITH OUTCOMES WOULD
BE.
WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM THAT
SPACE BECAUSE AS MENTIONED
PREVIOUSLY, WE'RE IN A POSITION
AND ENCOURAGE THE AGENCY WITH A
START POINT AND TO GIVE THEM THE
FLEXIBILITY THROUGH THIS
INITIATIVE TO REALLY LEARN AND
CURRENTLY AS WALTER MENTIONED
WITH THIS CHANGE WITH A CHANGE
AND WE'RE HOPING SOME OF THE
PROJECTS WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED
IN THIS INITIATIVE.
I BELIEVE WE'RE AT QUESTIONS.
>> WE ALLUDED TO THE FACT WE'VE
BEEN TALKING TO OTHER AGENCIES,
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION,
DOD, ENERGY, EPA AND EXCHANGED
INFORMATION ABOUT GSA'S EMBODIED
CARBON APPROACH AND THE NATIONAL
CONCRETE ASSOCIATION AND
BENEFITS LIKE THE CARBON
LEADERSHIP PROGRAM FORUM AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES
INCLUDING MARIN COUNTY,
CALIFORNIA ON THE LEADING EDGE
PORT AUTHORITY AND NEW YORK AND
NEW JERSEY AND STATE OF OREGON
AND OTHER GROUPS TRYING TO MOVE
FORWARD ALONG THIS ROUTE AS
WELL.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
LEARNING FROM THIS
GROUNDBREAKING NEW EFFORT WHICH
HAS NOT BEEN DONE BEYOND A
COUNTY LEVEL OF REGIONALITY SO
FAR AND WE'RE ON A TASK FORCE
AND WOULD LIKE TO EXCHANGE
INFORMATION AND CONSTRUCT A
CONSISTENT POLICY AND GSA'S
STANDARDS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION IS DOING AND
COMING AT IT FROM DIFFERENT
DIRECTIONS AS WELL AND
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS
USING IT AS A CARROT OR ARE A
CARROT OF GRANTS AND FINANCING
USING FOR LOWER CARBON
MATERIALS.
WE'RE ASKING FOR IT ACROSS THE
BOARD AND SEEING WHAT WE GIVE
BACK.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
HOW THINGS PLAY OUT OVER THE
NEXT FEW MONTHS.
WE'RE PROUD WE'RE DOING WHAT WE
CAN AND EXCITED TO SEE HOW IT
PLAYS OUT AND CONTINUING TO WORK
WITH THE GREEN BUILDING ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AND OTHER AGENCIES.
I DO SEE SOME TERRIFIC QUESTIONS
HERE.
SO DON, I WILL READ THE FIRST
ONE TO YOU AS YOU STOP SHARING
YOUR SCREEN AND COME ON VIDEO
BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A QUESTION
YOU KNOW PARTICULARLY WELL.
ANGELINE AT DHS ASKS WHETHER
EPDs ARE CONSISTENT ENOUGH
ACROSS PRODUCTS THEY WOULD
ENABLE US TO COMPARE MATERIALS
AND CHOOSE MATERIALS BASED ON
EPDs.
>> THERE'S SEVERAL ASPECTS TO
THAT.
ONE IS THAT WE'RE NOT USING THE
EPDs TO MAKE PROCUREMENT
DECISIONS.
WE DECIDED EARLY ON THAT THAT
WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE OR NOT
SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
RECOMMENDED AT THIS POINT.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE ENERGY
MODELLING WHERE YOU GET
APPROXIMATIONS AROUND ABLE TO
COMPARE OPTIONS OR SYSTEMS
WITHIN A BUILDING.
THE SAME THING YOU CAN COMPARE
MATERIAL TYPES, THIS TYPE OF
CARBON OR TYPE OF CARPET OR
STEEL OR CONCRETE FOR THE
STRUCTURE.
WE CAN MAKE LARGER ASUMINGSS --
ASSU
ASSUMPTIONS AND WHEN WE LOOK AT
HOW THEY'RE FOR A MATERIAL OR
SAME PCR IN THE SAME UNIT OR
FUNCTIONAL UNIT, YOU CAN
BASICALLY MAKE COMPARISONS
BETWEEN PRODUCTS BUT WE'RE NOT
USING IT IN THAT WAY.
ANYONE ELSE?
>> EXACTLY.
WE DO SPECIFY IN OUR STANDARDS
WHICH WILL BE PUBLICLY REVEALED
TOMORROW MORNING YOU'LL SEE A
PRESS RELEASE FROM GSA AND SEE
THE STANDARDS AND WE PREFERENCE
THE STANDARD PRODUCT CATEGORY
RULES FOR ASPHAUASPHALT AND EVERYONE
IS USING THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC
NOR PRODUCTS BUT WE CAN COMPARE
IT ACROSS MATERIAL TYPES BECAUSE
THERE'S DIFFERENT PRODUCT
CATEGORY RULES.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE MAY BE
INTERESTED IN IMPROVING BUT
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
AND THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT
LEASE SPACES.
WHETHER IT'S USED IN DECISION
MAKING FOR LEASED BUILDINGS
WHERE THE GOVERNMENT OCCUPIES
PART OF THE BUILDING.
IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW MUCH OF A
REDUCTION IS YIELDED FROM
RENOVATION WORK AND THE
STANDARDS -- I'LL START US AND
ADINA AND YOU CAN CHIME IN AND
THERE'S A GSA PRODUCT WE'RE NOT
COVERING.
ESPC WORK AND SOME PROSPECTUS
PROJECTS AND SOME THAT COST OVER
$3 MILLION IN CAPITAL AND LEASE
SPACES ARE A TRICKY ANIMAL AND
WE HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY PERSON
WHO DEALS WITH THESE VEXING
ISSUES EVERY DAY TRYING TO GET
NET ZERO OFFICE LEASED SPACE AND
REDUCTIONS FOR LEASED SPACE.
IT'S TRICKIER BECAUSE DIFFERENT
LANDLORDS HAVE DIFFERENT
AVAILABILITY AND SKILL SETS,
ETCETERA.
YOU CAN ASK FOR LEED CERTIFIED
SPACE THAT IS INDUSTRY STANDARD
BUT IN SMALLER AND REMOTE
MARKETS THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE
EITHER.
ANYTHING TO ADD?
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
MATERIALS USED IN THE SPACES AND
THE MOST USED MATERIALS AND IS
IT CARPET OR PAINT OR CEILING
TILES AND START TO DO THE
ANALYSIS WE CAN LOOK AT THE
MATERIAL BY THE GLOBAL WARMING
MATERIALS AND LOOK AT THE
EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT
AND IN THE SAME SENSE WHATEVER
THE PROJECT IS YOU MAKE DESIGN
DECISIONS OR MATERIAL CHOICES
GIVING YOU A LOWER TOTAL
EMBODIED CARBON.
>> IS THERE A TABLE THAT
IDENTIFIES LOW EMBODIED CARBON
IN CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS OR CAN
WE PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF LOW
EMBODIED CARBON MATERIALS?
>> ONE WAS MENTIONED ON THE
SLIDE WITH THE FACILITY
STANDARDS.
AND THERE'S A 2030 PALLET AND
WHAT ARE LOWER EMBODIED CARBON
AND OTHER LISTS AND LOTS OF
ORGANIZATIONS ARE STARTING TO
CREATE THOSE CARBON LEADERSHIP
FORUM WHERE THE FIRST TWO SLIDES
CAME FROM.
THEY HAVE LOTS OF RESOURCES ON
THEIR WEBSITE AND TALKING ABOUT
INDIVIDUAL MATERIALS.
AND EXAMPLES AS WE MENTIONED
WITH CONCRETE, IT MIGHT BE USING
DIFFERENT ADD MIXTURES OR
SUBSTITUTING SOMETHING FOR
PORTLAND FOR CEMENT AND
CONSTRUCTION OF STEEL ARE THEY
USING RENEWABLE ENERGY IN SOME
SUBSTANTIAL WAY.
WHERE'S THE STEEL COMING FROM
THEY'RE MELTING DOWN TO MAKE THE
NEW STEEL.
THOSE ARE EXAMPLES THERE.
IT COULD BE A MANUFACTURING
PROCESS OR IN TRANSPORTATION OR
IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY OF THE
PLANT.
THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THEY
CAN ADDRESS EMBODIED CARBON IN
THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS.
ONE THING WE'VE MENTIONED AND
STRESS AGAIN IS THAT BY ASKING
FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PRIVATE
DECLARATIONS THE BIGGEST VALUE
IS RAISING THE AWARENESS WITHIN
THE INDUSTRY OR A PARTICULAR
MANUFACTURE WHAT ARE THE
PROCESSES THEY ARE GOING THROUGH
THAT CREATE EMISSIONS AND HOW
CAN THEY REDUCE THAT WITHIN
THEIR OWN MANUFACTURING
PROCESSES.
A LOT OF HAVE LEARNED FROM
CREATING EPDs AND HAVE BEEN
ADDRESSING THIS IN DIFFERENT
WAYS WITHIN INDIVIDUAL
MANUFACTURERS.
NOT JUST THE NUMBERS IT GIVES TO
US AS FEDERAL USERS.
>> FROM AN ACQUISITION
STANDPOINT, GSA STARTED OUR
INNOVATION -- SORRY ABOUT THE
DOG, INNOVATION INITIATIVE AND
AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT,
THERE ARE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS
THAT COME UP IN TERMS OF
ADDRESSING SUSTAINABILITY OR
LOWER EMISSIONS AND PRODUCTS,
THAT'S SOMETHING AS SOLICITATION
THE AGENCY WOULD BE INTERESTED
IN BECAUSE THE OTHER PIECE IS
EVEN WITH THE REQUIREMENT FOR
SOMETHING TO HAVE LOWER
EMISSIONS WE'RE ALSO STILL
LOOKING FOR PRODUCTS THAT HAVE
THE ABILITY TO PERFORM AT THE
STANDARD THEY SHOULD TO ENSURE
WE GET THE BEST OUTCOME.
JUST OTHER THINGS TO KEEP IN
MIND.
>> ARE THE ARMY CORPS OF
ENGINEERS INCORPORATING THIS
INTO THEIR CONTRACTS AND WHETHER
GSA FLOW DOWN TO CONTRACTS WITH
ARMY CORPS OR GSA DOES ITS OWN
CONSTRUCTION.
WE HIRE CONTRACTORS BUT WE PUT
IN OUR SCOPES OF WORK FOR THE
CONTRACT DESIGNERS AND BUILDERS.
GSA AND ARMY CORPS DO THEIR OWN
WORK.
THE ARMY CORPS IS LIKE THE GSA
FOR DOD PERHAPS DOING MILITARY
STYLE CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE THE LANDLORD FOR THE CIVIL
AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
GOVERNMENT AND DEPARTMENT OF
DEFENSE DOES ITS OWN STUFF AND
THEY'RE NOT DOING THINGS LIKE
THIS JUST YET BUT WE MIGHT SEE
MORE AGENCIES ADOPT SIMILAR
POLICIES DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS
GO.
AND ON THE DEFINITION BETWEEN
SMALLER AND LARGER PROJECTS NOT
JUST INFORMAL -- WHEN WE SAY
SMALL WE SAY A LIMITED SCOPE
PROJECT.
COULD BE A LIGHTING WORK OR
PAVING OR COULD BE REPLACING H
HVAC SYSTEM AND OTHER PROJECTS
ARE SYNONYMOUS WITH AUTOMATION
OF LARGER SYSTEMS LIKE A FULL
RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING.
DO ANY BUILDING PRODUCTS
SEQUESTER CARBON AND HOW IS PUM
LUMBER COMPARED TO ALTERNATIVES?
>> YOUR SEQUESTERING CARBON IN
THE BUILDING PROJECT AND SOME
TALK ABOUT GIVING CREDIT FOR
THAT, WHATEVER, BUT IT'S REALLY
REDUCING THE OVERALL INITIAL
EMBODIED CARBON BUT THERE'S
OTHER PRODUCTS TOO.
THERE'S INNOVATIVE CONCRETES
THAT ARE ACTUALLY YOU INJECT
CARBON INTO THE CONCRETE MIX OR
CERTAIN ONES USING BIOLOGICAL
PROCESSES OR OTHER ORGANIC
MATERIALS WHERE THE PRODUCTS ARE
SEQUESTERING MORE CARBON THAN
WHAT THEY USE.
THE RPE THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF
ENERGY PUT OUT A CALL EARLIER
THIS YEAR FOR INNOVATIVE
PRODUCTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY
SEQUESTERING OR REDUCING CARBON
MORE THAN IS PRODUCED IN THE
MANUFACTURING OF THE PRODUCT AND
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AT GSA
WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN
IMPLEMENT NOW.
>> WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THE WHOLE
MEASURE WILL GIVE DESIGNERS TO
THINK ABOUT MATERIALS THEY MIGHT
NOT HAVE BEFORE TO POTENTIALLY
GIVE THESE REALLY GAME CHANGING
NATURAL MATERIALS THAT CAN
HAPPEN.
ADINA DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION
ALEXANDER HAS ASKED OR SHALL I
READ IT?
YOU CAN GET IT INTO THE HANDS OF
THE CONTRACTING OFFICERS FOR
SPECIFIC PROCUREMENT ACTIONS?
>> OKAY, SO A COUPLE THINGS
ABOUT THAT.
THE SVSH -- SURVEY I MENTIONED
THIS IS UNIQUE TO THE AGENCY WE
DEVELOPED SO I'M NOT UTILIZING
FPDS REPORTING FOR IT.
THE FPDS REPORTING TIES
CURRENTLY TO A COUPLE DIFFERENT
CLAUSES ON SUSTAINABILITY AT THE
FEDERAL REGULATION.
MY FOCUS IS INTERNAL POLICY
WITHIN GSA IT SOLVE WITH A FOCUS
ON SUSTAINABILITY.
SO THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE
THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED TO ASK
INFORMATION THAT SUPPORTS
DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WITHIN GSA.
THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING
MATERIALS WHICH WOULD BE MORE
BUILDING SERVICE WE ALSO HAVE
FEDERAL ACQUISITION SERVICES
THAT FOCUSES ON BUYING A LOT OF
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THINGS
LIKE THAT AND HAVE TRAVEL
LOGISTICS THAT FOCUSES ON THE
FEDERAL FLEET.
ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
WITHIN OUR AGENCY THAT ARE
PROCURING DIFFERENT THINGS AND
THE SURVEY QUESTIONS ARE
TAILORED TO DETERMINE THE BEST
PRACTICES AND DISCUSSED WITHIN
THE AGENCY.
AND THE OTHER PART OF YOUR
QUESTION IS ARE WE LOOKING AT
DEPAR -- DECARBONIZATION OR
WHAT'S IN THE PROGRAM.
EVERYBODY IS FOCUSSING IN ON
DIFFERENT ASPECTS AND THERE'S
INFORMATION SHARING IS ONE OF
THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE'RE ASKING AND WE HAVE
INFORMATION THROUGH THAT.
I HOPE I ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
IT'S A LONG QUESTION.
I FEEL LIKE I GAVE A LONG ANSWER
TOO.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
>> KELLY WEIS ASKS IF WE CAPTURE
THE LOOPS OF THE OTHER
ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIFICATIONS WE
HAVE LIKE BIO BASED CONTENT AND
HOW DO WE TRACK THAT AND THE
DATA INTO THE ASSOCIATED
REPORTS.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A WHOLE OTHER
CONVERSATION WE HAVE TO HAVE.
WE HAVE A KEY SUSTAINABILITY
PRODUCTS CHECKLIST.
WE HAVE A CHECKLIST FOR
SUSTAINABLE FEDERAL BUILDINGS.
THAT'S THE MECHANISM WE HAVE FOR
SYSTEM JAATICALLY TRACKING AND
THOSE HAVE LOWER EMBODIED CARBON
IMPACT BUT MAY HAVE OTHER
SUSTAINABILITY IMPACTS.
WE LOOKING AT MULTI ATTRIBUTE
SPECIFICS YOU LOOK AT OTHER
PERSPECTIVES AND LOOKING AT
CLIMATE IMPACT AND THE GLOBAL
WARMING POTENTIAL HAS TO BE A
PRIMARY THING YOU'RE LOOKING AT
NOT RECYCLED CONTENT OR WHATEVER
ELSE.
>> WE HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT
EMBODIED CARBON IN THE CONTEXT
OF ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES
AND CONTRACTS AND OUR MATERIAL
APPROACH IS ON CONCRETE FOR
STARTERS.
DOWN THE ROAD WE'LL EXPAND AND
IT'S A LARGE FOOTPRINT ITEM BUT
GENERALLY WHEN GSA USE THESE
TYPES OF CONTRACTS IT'S FOR
LIGHTING AND RENEWABLES.
THAT'S SOME EMBODIED CARBON
ASPECT TO THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT
BUT IT'S SMALLER IN
INFRASTRUCTURE.
THOSE ARE MORE FOCUSSED ON
OPERATIONAL DECARBONIZATION FOR
THE MOST PART.
AND OUR SCOPE 3 EMISSIONS FOR
THE LIFE TIME CARBON EMISSIONS?
>> EMBODIED CARBON IS SCOPE 3
SO, YES, IN THAT SENSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MEAN
EMPLOYEE TRANSPORTATION BUT IN
MATERIALS OF MATERIALS IT IS
SCOPE 3.
>> OR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS
AND SHORT ANSWER, YEAH, I THINK
WE'RE PROBABLY INTERESTED IN
MORE SUSTAINABLE PRODUCTS
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE
WAY TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE
WHOLE BUILDING ASSESSMENT
APPROACH AND WE HAVE INDUSTRY
REGULATIONS OFFICE COMPANIES
LOOKING TO DO BUSINESS WITH GSA
CAN TALK TO.
>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH GREEN
STEEL SO I'LL LOOK THOSE
COMPANIES UP.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
>> THE NEXT QUESTION MAY BE ONE
FOR YOU.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT LAUNCHING IN THE
FUTURE A CASE WITH POLICY
REPORTING FOR FEDS TO ACQUIRE
LOW EMBODIED CARBON PRODUCTS AND
SERVICES?
>> HI SUE.
REGARDING THE UPCOMING CASE THE
FAR TEAM IS CURRENTLY ANSWERING
OTHER DIRECTIVES FROM THE
EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT HAVE COME
OUT.
DO I PERCEIVE THIS HAPPENING IN
THE FUTURE?
I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'RE AT
THE STARTING POINT OF THIS.
IT'S SORT OF THE TASK FORCE
FORMED WITH DIFFERENT STRATEGIES
AS WALTER MENTIONED THERE'S
OTHER AGENCIES PARTICIPATING.
I THINK MOVING INTO THE FUTURE
ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE BUT FOR NOW
IT'S DEFINITELY AT A STARTING
POINT WHERE I THINK WE'RE TRYING
TO DETERMINE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR
THE GOVERNMENT BEFORE THAT WOULD
MOVE UP TO A FAR RULE.
BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE SPACE WHERE
WE CAN -- AND THAT'S THE POINT
OF THE INITIATIVE TOO TO START
LEARNING AND FIGURING OUT BEST
PRACTICES AND BUILD
RELATIONSHIPS WITH BASICALLY OUR
TECHNICAL EXPERTS WITHIN THE
GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS WITH
INDUSTRY AND LEARN FROM THERE
AND AT THE NEXT POINT THEN MOVE
IT INTO A MORE PERMANENT POLICY
SPHERE BUT FOR NOW IT'S REALLY
JUST SORT OF THE STARTING OFF
POINT.
>> MODERATORS, ARE WE OUT OF
TIME?
OKAY.
ONE LAST QUESTION.
>> YES, I THINK WE ARE OUT OF
TIME AND WE UNFORTUNATELY DON'T
HAVE A BREAK BETWEEN THESE
SESSIONS AND THANK YOU AND THANK
YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT'S THE MOST QUESTIONS
WE'VE RECEIVED ALL DAY SO SORRY
WE CAN'T GET TO THEM ALL BUT
MOVE RIGHT ON TO THE LAST
SESSION OF THE DAY WHICH IS
GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS
ACHIEVING SUCCESS IN
SUSTAINABILITY.
IF THAT CAN COME ON SCREEN AND
UNMUTE YOURSELVES AND GET READY.
>> HELLO.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> I WANT TO GIVE A REMINDER TO
ANYONE NEW JOINING OUR TRACK FOR
THIS SESSION, IF YOU WANT TO
SUBMIT QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE
PRESENTATION, YOU CAN USE THE
BUTTON THAT SAYS SEND LIVE
FEEDBACK AND WE'LL GET TO OUR
PRESENTERS AND THEY'LL ANSWER AS
MANY AS THEY CAN BY THEN OF OUR
SESSION AND IF THE PRESENTERS
SAID YES TO MAKING THEIR SLIDES
AVAILABLE IT'S POSTED ON THE
WEBSITE AND THEY'RE UNDER THE
PROCEEDINGS AND CITATIONS TABS.
TAKE IT AWAY.
>> CAN YOU SEE OUR PRESENTATION?
>> YES, I CAN.
>> WELCOME, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO GENE BUILDING
CERTIFICATION ACHIEVING SUCCESS
AND SUSTAINABILITY.
THIS IS A PANEL PRESENTATION IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE OF
BUROR OPERATIONS OF BUILDING AND
PARK SERVICE AND NATIONAL
NUCLEAR ENERGY ADMINISTRATION.
AND WE'LL TALK WITH
INTRODUCTIONS AND TALK ABOUT THE
CONCEPT OF BUILDING AT LARGE AND
MOVING INTO GREEN BUILDING
SPECIFICATION AND HOW TO USE
CERTIFICATIONS INCLUDING PRODUCT
EXAMPLES AND WITH LESSED LEARNED
AND A QUESTION AND ANSWER
SESSION.
FIRST UP IS ME.
I'M RYAN CERONE.
I'M AN ARCHITECT AND VARIETAL
INTEGRATION PROTECTION MANAGER
AND I LOOK AT ADVANCING
STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS AROUND
GREEN BUILDING EFFORTS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL INTEGRATION AND
SUSTAINABLE PROCESS DEVELOPMENT.
OUR FIRST PANELIST IS ALSO FROM
THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE BUREAU
OF OVERSEAS BUILDING OPERATION,
DOUGLAS BRINKLEY.
HE'S A SENIOR ARCHITECT AND
DESIGN MANAGER WHERE HE IS
CHAMPIONING OUR ELITE EFFORT FOR
THE DEPARTMENT'S PROVIDING
FACILITIES WORLDWIDE.
WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE MISSION
VALUE AND GOAL OF OPO.
>> FIRST, THANK YOU AND THE
PRESENTERS FOR HELPING TO PUT
THIS TOGETHER.
EVERYONE DAY GREAT JOB, THANK
YOU.
WE MANAGE THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
STATE'S BUILDING PROGRAM AND
SETS WORLDWIDE PRIORITIES FOR
DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND
OPERATION, MAINTENANCE AND
DISPOSAL OF OVERSEAS PROPERTIES.
WE ARE ALWAYS REMINDFUL OF OUR
MISSION WHICH IS TO PROVIDE
SAFE, SECURE RESILIENT
FACILITIES REPRESENTING THE
U.S. GOVERNMENT TO THE HOST
NATION AND SUPPORT OUR STAFF IN
THE ACHIEVEMENT OF U.S. FOREIGN
POLICY OBJECTIVES.
THESE FACILITIES REPRESENT
AMERICAN VALUES AND THE BEST IN
AMERICAN ARCHITECTURE, DESIGN,
ENGINEERING, DESIGN, TECHNOLOGY
AND SUSTAINABILITY AND
EXECUTION.
OUR GOALS ARE SECURITY,
RESILIENCE AND STEWARDSHIP.
WE HAVE STEWARDSHIP TO OURSELVES
AND HOST COUNTRY.
WE ARE THE LEED RATING SYSTEM AS
A TOOL TO ENSURE WE'RE
INCORPORATING SUSTAINABILITY TO
OUR FACILITIES TO LEAD OUR
VALUES AND GOALS.
>> OUR NEXT PANELIST IS
COMMANDER KURT KESTELOOT WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF PARK SERVICE
WHERE HE HAS 18 YEARS OF
SUSTAINABLE ENGINEERING AND
DESIGN CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE.
I'LL THOUGH THE SAME QUESTION TO
YOU.
HOW DOES THE NATIONAL PARK
SERVICE VISION AND GOALS RELATE
TO TODAY'S PRESENTATION?
>> THANKS, RYAN.
THANKS, EVERYONE.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP AND
ECHO WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER ABOUT
PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
HAPPY TO BE HERE.
THE MISSION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
ENTIINTERIOR TO PROTECT THE CULTURAL
RESOURCES AND CULTURAL HERITAGE
AND PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT
THOSE SOURCES AND HONOR AND
TRUST THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE
RESPONSE S OF THE SPECIAL
COMMITMENTS TO THE AMERICAN
INDIANS AND ALASKAN NATIVES AND
PLAYING A ROLE IN HOW THE UNITED
STATES STEWARDS PUBLIC LANDS AND
INCREASES ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION AND PURSUES
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND HONORS
OUR NATION TO NATION
RELATIONSHIP WITH TRIBES.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF OUR GOALS
HERE WE HAVE OUR MANDATE FROM
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
WE MUST ADDRESS THE INTERSECTING
CHALLENGES MUCH COVID-19 AND
ECONOMIC RECOVERY AND RACIAL
EQUITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE IDENTIFYING
THE STEPS TO ACCOMMODATE
RESPONSIBLE AND DEVELOP OUR
RENEWABLE ENERGY ON OUR PUBLIC
LANDS AND WATERS AND THEN
CENTERING EQUITY IN
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
THOSE ARE THE AREAS WE'LL FOCUS
ON.
>> OUR THIRD PANELIST TODAY IS
WAYNE EVELO OF THE NATIONAL
NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
WHERE HE'S A BUILDING MANAGER ON
GENE BUILDING AND UTILITIES.
WAYNE, SAME QUESTION TO YOU, HOW
DOES THE NSNA VISION AND MISSION
AND GOALS ALIGN WITH TODAY'S
PRESENTATION.
>> THE NATIONAL SECURITY
ADMINISTRATION NNSA WE'RE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NUCLEAR
WEAPONS STOCKPILE AND
EMERGENCIES AND PROVIDE FUEL TO
THE NUCLEAR NAVY AS WELL AS
REACTORS THEY NEED IN THE
AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND SUBMARINES
AND TRY TO REDUCE
NON-PROLIFERATION OR REDUCE THE
PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR
MATERIAL AND OUR FOLKS HAVE BEEN
PRO-OCCUPIED WITH THE STUFF
GOING ON IN THE UKRAINE RIGHT
NOW.
BUT WHY DO WE CARE ABOUT
SUSTAINABILITY IN AN
ORGANIZATION SO FOCUSSED ON A
NUCLEAR DETERRENT?
OUR GOAL IS TO RECRUIT AND
RETAIN THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST.
WE HAVE BUILDING THAT ARE
HEALTHY BUILDINGS AND GOOD
PLACES TO WORK AND SECURE.
AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO LOOK
OUT FOR THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
AND WATER EFFICIENCY AND WE HAVE
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S MANDATE
TO BE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT
SUSTAINABLE AND WE HAVE THE
MISSION AND OVERSIGHT OF
SUSTAINABILITY COMPONENT THAT
HELPS RETAIN AND ATTRACTIVE THE
BEST AND BRIGHTEST.
>> THANKS, WAYNE.
SO THE FIRST MAIN TOPIC WE'LL
DISCUSS IS THE CONCEPT OF GREEN
BUILDING AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
GREEN BUILDING, WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT THE CONCEPT WITHIN DESIGN,
CONSTRUCTION OR OPERATION OF A
PROJECT OF BUILDING
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT REDUCES AND
ELIMINATES THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS
ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND WORKS TO
PRESERVE NATURAL RESOURCES AND
IMPROVE AND PROTECT OCCUPANT
HEALTH AND WELL BEING.
WHEN WE MENTION GREEN BUILDING
KEEP IN MIND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
REFERENCING DURING TODAY'S
PANEL.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
SUSTAINABILITY AND GREEN
BUILDING, WE'RE REALLY TALKING
ABOUT NOT ONLY THE IMPACT ON THE
ENVIRONMENT BUT ON THE OCCUPANT
AND THE PERSON.
THIS IS A REALLY GREAT GRAPHIC
THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THAT
RELATIONSHIP.
KURT, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN
MORE ABOUT WHAT THIS GRAPHIC IS
SAYING?
>> I CAN ADD MORE AND WE HAVE
ANOTHER SLIDE THAT TALKS ON THIS
MORE BASED ON THE COUNTRIES AND
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY FALL ON
THIS.
YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE
RIGHT-HAND SIDE THE ECOLOGICAL
FOOTPRINT AND OUR Y AXIS ONCE
YOU GET UP TO 1.8 AND STARTING
TO EXCEED THE SUSTAINABILITY
QUADRANT IN YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE
LOOK AT SOME OF THE COUNTRIES
AND HOW HARD IT IS TO STAY
WITHIN THE FACTOR AROUND THEN
THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE
RESOURCES AVAILABLE ON EARTH AND
THEN YOU LOOK AT THE X AXIS AND
THE APPROVXIMATION OF A GOOD
QUALITY OF LIFE AND LOOK AT
DEVELOPING COUNTRIES AN THE
DEVELOPING INDEX.
SO THIS IS A BETTER SLIDE TO TIE
IN YOU CAN SEE AND WHERE WE SIT
IN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.
WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD AS
WELL AS A DEVELOPED COUNTRY AND
YOU CAN SEE WE WEREN'T REALLY IN
THE SUSTAINABILITY QUADRANT AS
MANY OF US THAT'S PART OF THE
REASON WE'RE TALKING HERE TODAY
TO HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO MOVE
TOWARDS A MORE SUSTAINABLE
ENVIRONMENT AND YOU CAN SEE
OTHER AREAS WHERE WE HAVE
GOVERNMENT FACILITIES IN MOST
COUNTRIES TOO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK
FORWARD TO TRYING TO GET MORE IN
THAT SUSTAINABILITY QUADRANT AND
LOOK AT THE HUMAN INDEX TO NOTE
TOWARDS THAT.
CHINA YOU CAN SEE IS CONSIDERED
A DEVELOPED COUNTRY JUST OVER
THE LINE AND GOOD TO WORK WITH
THE COUNTRIES, INDIA AND
HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP THEM AND I
SHOULD SAY, NOT KEEP THEM BUT
HELP WORK WITH THEM TO ENCOURAGE
THEIR SUSTAINABLE RESOURCE
ALLOCATION AND MOVE THEN UP TO A
DEVELOPED COUNTRY AND THEIR
COMMUNITY IS DOING WELL.
WE NEED TO VISIT THERE.
THANKS.
>> AND AS KURT ALLUDED TO
EARLIER TO CREATING A HIGH LEVEL
WITHOUT DEPLETING THE PLANET OR
REGION'S ECOLOGICAL RESOURCE
SPACE.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE LOWER
RIGHT COUNTRY.
VARYING COUNTRIES HAVE ACHIEVED
THIS WITHIN LEVELS OF RESOURCE
CONSUMPTION.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO MANAGE
AND USE BIO CAPACITY MORE
EFFECTIVELY AND THROUGH THE
SUSTAINABLE INVESTMENT THAT WE
MAKE AROUND THE WORLD.
WE HOPE TO MOVE PEOPLE CLOSER TO
LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY.
>> THANKS, GUYS.
SO THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT THESE CONCEPTS AND GREEN
BUILDING AT LARGE IS WHAT ARE WE
TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT ARE THE TENETS OF GREEN
BUILDING AND HOW ARE WHERE HE
ACHIEVING GOALS THROUGH THREE
MAIN PILLARS, SUSTAINABILITY AND
WELLNESS AND RESILIENCY AND THIS
IS TALKING ABOUT RESILIENCY, THE
ABILITY TO ADAPT AND BE FLEXIBLE
AND PROMOTING AND PROTECTING
OCCUPANT WELL BEING AND
COLLECTIVELY THAT'S HOW WE START
TO UNDERSTAND THE LARGER CONCEPT
OF GREEN BUILDING.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK EACH
PANELIST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
HOW THEIR AGENCY IS APPROACHING
EACH OR ANY OF THESE TENETS.
KURT, HOW IS THE NATIONAL PARK
SERVICE WORKING WITH
SUSTAINABILITY?
>> THANK YOU.
SO SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS WE'RE
WORKING ON.
LEED, WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER AND
SOME OF THE BUILDING DESIGNS
TAKING PIECES OF LEED AND USING
THOSE FOR EVALUATING THE PROJECT
AND NOT NECESSARILY CERTIFYING
EVERY PROJECT BUT CERTAINLY
USING IT AS A CHECKLIST TO MAKE
SURE WE ACHIEVE AND MORPH
TOWARDS THAT GREEN BUILDING
CONCEPT AND THEN ALSO THE
ENVISION PROCESSES WE'LL BE
TALKING ABOUT HERE BRIEFLY IN
SOME OF OUR UTILITY TYPE
PROJECTS MAKE SURE WE'RE THE
ENVISION PROCESS AND CHECKLIST
TO GO THROUGH AND VERIFY OUR
PROJECTS TO GET THE MOST
SUSTAINABLE PROJECT WE CAN
TRYING TO ACHIEVE NOT ONLY
CERTIFYING THOSE AS WELL BUT
CERTAINLY USING THE PROCESS TO
STAY INFORMED.
THANK YOU.
>> AND WE SEE ALL THREE OF THESE
TENETS OF GREEN BUILDING GO HAND
IN HAND.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE OVERLAP
AND TALK ABOUT LEED FOR OUR
PROJECTS OR THE EFFORT ON THE
GREEN TRIANGLE.
THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES IN
OUR FACILITIES AND PROJECTS TO
ENSURE OUR OCCUPANT HAVE
WELLNESS AND RESILIENCE AND
WE'RE SUSTAINABLE TO THE
ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S SOMETHING WE TAKE VERY
SERIOUS TO MEET OUR MISSION.
>> HOW IS THE NSA LOOKING AT
THESE, WAYNE?
WE'RE HAVING AUDIO ISSUES.
WE'RE CIRCLE BACK.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
SUSTAINABILITY AND WAYNE, I'LL
THROW IT TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT
ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND MAYBE
RENEWABLE.
HOW ARE YOU LOOKING AT ENERGY?
>> SURE.
I THINK BACK DOWN THE LINE FOR
SOME REASON I GOT KICKED OFF.
EXCELLENT.
I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THE IDEA
OF RESILIENCE AND IF HAVE AN
ENERGY RESILIENT PROJECT AND IF
YOU'RE IN AN ENERGY EFFICIENT
BUILDING WHETHER IT'S POWER
GENERATION WHETHER EMERGENCY
GENERATORS CAN RUN LONGER.
YOU HAVE MORE RESILIENCY AND
MORE ABILITY TO MEET THE MISSION
DURING TRYING TIMES.
WE'RE LOOK AT THE BENEFITS OF
LOW ENERGY USE RETAIN THE BEST
AND BRIGHTEST FOLKS.
>> DOUGLAS,
>> SO CLIMATE RESILIENCE AND
THEE FEATURES OF GREEN BUILDING
ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN HOW WE
ADVANCE THEM.
ENERGY EFFICIENCY, RENEWABLES
CAN HELP US NOT -- IN THE POWER
GRID AND NOISE REDUCTION IS A
BIG DEAL.
WE LOOK NOT TO CREATE WASTE
WHICH IS HARD TO DO WITH NEW
CONSTRUCTION AND FIND WAYS TO
REUSE AND REPURPOSE.
SINCE THE BULK OF WHAT WE DO IS
NEW CONSTRUCTION WE FOCUS ON NOT
CREATING WASTING AND RECYCLING.
WE HAVE TO SEE INNOVATIVE
OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT CAN BE A
CHALLENGE.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOU, KURT?
>> SIMILAR TO MANY OTHERS AND
CERTAINLY THE CLIMATE CHANGE
ADAPTABILITY PIECE IS A CONSTANT
STRUGGLE FOR US WITH SOME OF OUR
PARKS AND LOWER ELEVATIONS OR
ALTITUDES PARKS AND THE LOOK
OUTS OR THE CAPES AND THOSE THAT
HAVE MOVING SAND DUNES.
THAT'S A CONSTANT QUESTION THAT
COMES INTO PLAY FOR THOSE AND
WHAT THE BEST MODEL IS MOVING
FORWARD AND ALL THE OTHER PIECES
TIE INTO OUR PIECES WHERE WE'RE
LOOKING AT FOR FACILITIES AND
THE OCCUPANT HEALTH VARIES BASED
ON WORKING ON THE VISITORS
CENTER FOR EMPLOYEES OR A
VISITOR CENTER FOR OUR VISITORS
OR IT'S GOING TO BE FOR
EMPLOYEES AND AS FAR AS THE
WASTE REDUCTION TRYING TO DO
THAT AND THEY SENT SOMETHING OUT
WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE
FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR FACILITIES
COMPETE TO TRY TO INCREASE AND
IMPROVE THEIR WASTE REDUCTION,
RECYCLING AND SUCH.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
>> IN ORDER TO PROMOTE AND
ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVES THE
PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS THROUGH
GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS.
THE MAIN CORE OF OUR
PRESENTATION BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT
OTHER POSSIBLE STRATEGIES AND
ADJACENT EFFORTS AT THE SAME
TIME.
NONE OF THESE EFFORTS REALLY
EXIST OR SUCCEED IN A SILO.
AND WE HAVE DESIGN INTERVENTIONS
AND POLICY AND PROCEDURES IN
ADDITION TO GREEN CERTIFICATIONS
ANY OF OUR AGENCIES CAN PURSUE
AND ACHIEVE GREEN BUILDING
OBJECTIVES.
I'LL ASK THE PANELISTS TO TALK
ABOUT YOUR WAYS THE WAY YOU WORK
IN THESE STRATEGIES HELP AU
CHIEF GREEN BUILDING OBJECTIVES.
DOUGLAS.
>> WE'LL HAVE TO CRAFT THEM
WHERE APPLICABLE TO ENSURE THE
REQUIREMENTS ARE PLACED.
AND WE HAVE A DESIGN BULLETIN
FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE
INFRASTRUCTURE AS A RESULT OF AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER.
WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR POLICIES
WHATEVER WE HAVE AND RESPOND TO
THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND
RESPOND TO THE INTERNATIONAL
CODES TO ENSURE THEY ARE
INCORPORATED.
AS FAR AS CULTURAL COMMITMENT,
SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO AND I
THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT
WITHIN THE CULTURE OF YOUR
ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE
EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS WE HAVE A
GREEN AWARDS PROGRAM AND FOR
STAFF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND I
THINK YOU HAVE TO ENGRAIN THIS
INTO THE CULTURE OF THE
ORGANIZATION FOR IT TO HAPPEN
FOR PEOPLE TO EMBRACE IT.
>> WAYNE.
>> WE HAVE TO DO A REGULAR
SUSTAINABILITY AWARDS OF THE
YEAR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
HAS SUSTAINABILITY AWARD AND WE
CAME UP WITH INITIAL FUNDING
THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
AND U.S. GREEN BUILDING COUNCIL
CREATED THE LEED PROCESS.
WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTERS OF THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY FOR THE
AMOUNT OF WORK WE DO THE TO
MILLION BUDGET AND SO WE HAVE
THE REQUIREMENT TO DO LEAD GOLD
TO INCORPORATE EXECUTIVE ORDERS
INCLUDING GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND
THAT WAY IT'S THE SAME WIDGETS.
THE SAME PAINT AND
INFRASTRUCTURES AND THERE'S
CONSISTENCY AT THE SITE AND
THERE'S PLAQUES.
WE HAVE THE LEAD PLAQUE NEXT TO
A GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN A NEW
BUILDING.
THAT'S KIND OF THE VISION.
THERE'S SOME THINGS WE DO.
>> KURT?
>> I'LL TRY NOT TO TAKE TOO MUCH
TIME.
VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS
MENTIONED BY DOUGLAS AND WAYNE
AND I WOULD SAY WE HAVE A LITTLE
BIT MORE THAT COMES INTO PLAY
FOR SOME OF OUR CULTURAL
COMMITMENT AND WE HAVE OUR
INTERNAL CULTURAL AND NATURAL
RESOURCE DIVISIONS WE WORK IN
AND PROGRAMS TO LOOK THROUGH THE
FACILITIES TO MAKE SURE WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY PROJECT.
CERTAINLY THAT'S ANOTHER BIG
PIECE.
>> THANKS, KURT.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE
ADJACENT EFFORTS AND WAYNE
MENTION THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
I THINK WE TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT
ON EXECUTIVE ORDERS BUT I'M
INTERESTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT
THE INNOVATIONS AN INITIATIVES
LISTED HERE.
DOUGLAS, ARE YOU GUYS WORK IN
ANY OF THESE WAYS AT OBO?
>> SURE.
AND WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED AN
INNOVATION EFFORT AND INITIATIVE
AND WE HAVE WAYS AND IT TENDS TO
OPERATE IN A LOT OF SILE OSOS AND
HOW DO WE CREATE BRIDGES BETWEEN
SILOS SO WE'RE ALL COMMUNICATING
AND HOW DO WE REFER TO DATA.
WHAT'S THE DATA WE REPORT?
WHO DO WE REPORT TO?
WHAT ARE THE TOOLS AND
DASHBOARDS AND TOOLS AND
TECHNOLOGIES WE CAN USE WHETHER
IT'S MANAGEMENT OF TREES AND
CANOPIES OR WATER CONSERVATION
FOR IRRIGATION AND HOW TO DO THE
LEED PROCESS WITH ENERGY
CONSERVATION AND RENEWABLES?
AND EXTREME HEAT AND WATER
STRESS AND NATURAL HAZARDS AND
EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH
HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE
INITIATI
INITIATIVE.
>> THANKS, DOUGLAS.
WAYNE OR KURT, IS THERE ANYTHING
YOU WANT TO ADD BEFORE WE MOVE
INTO SPECIFICS ON CERTS?
>> NOT, ME, THANKS.
>> THE NEXT SECTION IS ON GREEN
BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS.
THIS WILL BE THE MAIN PART OF
OUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
CERTIFICATIONS WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT A COLLECTION OF RATINGS,
FRAME WORKS AND TOOLS AND
APPROACH APPLIED IN A SPECIFIC
WAY TO EVALUATE HOW A BUILDING
IS AMERICA -- IS MEASURING UP
AND WE TALK ABOUT PARTS AND
PROCESS TO THEM AS WELL.
THERE'S THE GOVERNANCE AND
DESIGN AND DOCUMENTATION AND
VERIFICATION.
ALL THE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO
KEEP IN MIND IN CONTEXT AS WE
MOVE FORWARD.
THESE ARE SOME VARIOUS EXAMPLES.
THERE'S MANY MORE OF CURRENT
GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS
OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
THINGS FROM WELL AND LEED AND
ENVISION, LEED AND ENVISION
WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IN THE
PRESENTATION AND THERE'S A LOT
OF THEM AND THEY ALL COVER A LOT
OF GREAT STUFF.
WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THOSE PARTS
AND PIECES AND PROCESS WHEN WE
THINK ABOUT CERTIFICATIONS.
SOME OF THESE CERTIFICATIONS ARE
INTERCONNECTED.
LEED AND WELL BOTH WITH THE
GSGBC AND HAVE A CROSS-WALK
DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT POINTS YOU
CAN ACHIEVE AUTOMATICALLY WITH
THE OTHER.
ENERGY STAR AND GREEN BARD WILL
BE PART OF THE CERTIFICATION
PROCESS AS WELL.
AND HOW WE'RE ORGANIZING AROUND
SUSTAINABILITY, WELLNESS AND
RESILIENCE, THERE COULD BE
MULTIPLE CERTIFICATIONS LOOKING
TO ACHIEVE THE SAME OBJECTIVES
IN ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT WELL AND
FITWELL AND THE LIVING BUILDING
CHALLENGE ALL TOWARDS WELLNESS
AND OCCUPANT HEALTH AND WELL
BEING AND ALL DOING SO VERY
DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT
THE PROCESS, THE VERIFICATION,
DESIGN AND DOCUMENTATION AND
VERIFICATION.
>> THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE IN
HELPING STAKEHOLDERS IN
IMPLEMENTING MORE COST EFFECTIVE
RESOURCE AND EFFICIENT AND
ADAPTABLE LONG-TERM INVESTMENT
AND TO BE MORE SPECIFIC YOU'LL
SEE AS WE TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THIS IT'D BE MORE IN
UTILITY TYPE PROJECTS, DRINKING
WATER AND WASTE WATER SYSTEMS
AND TRANSPORTATION, SOME ROADS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME FLAT WORK
VERSUS YOUR ABOVE MOVING UP AND
TYPE STRUCTURES.
AS I SAID EARLIER, YOU KNOW
ENVISION INFRASTRUCTURE TYPES
YOU CAN SEE HERE ARE MENTIONED
SOME OF THESE THE DRINKING WATER
AND WASTE WATER AND
TRANSPORTATION ALSO LOOKING AT
LANDSCAPES AND THERE'S ALSO BEEN
USE FOR INFORMATION AND THEN
YOUR ENERGY TYPE SYSTEMS.
>> WOULD YOU MIND IF WE ASKED
EITHER DOUGLAS OR WAYNE IF ANY
OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE TYPES
ARE IMPACTING WORK AND IN WHEN
WAYS DO THEY FIND SYNERGIES
HERE.
>> NO, PLEASE DO.
>> WE HAVE TALENTED DESIGN
MANAGER IN OUR OFFICE, SHE'S
WORKING ON A LANDSCAPE AND TREE
CANOPY INITIATIVE WHERE WE LOOK
AT TREES AS ASSETS.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AN
INSTITUTE TO LOOK AT TREES AS
SET -- ASSETS AND LOOK TO
INCREASE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY
AND FACILITATE HEALTHIER SPACES
AND EMBODY THE MISSION TO
PROVIDE SAFE, SECURE, FUNCTIONAL
AND RESILIENT FACILITIES.
THE OTHER IS ENERGY.
WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE
INTERNATIONAL PORTFOLIO.
WE REQUIRE INNOVATIVE DESIGN
SOLUTIONS AND THERE'S 123
MILLION SQUARE FEET OF SPACE YOU
CAN IMAGINE HOW MUCH ENERGY IS
NEEDED TO OPERATE ALL THESE
FACILITIES.
SO HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
WE HAVE TO LOOK TO REDUCE
CONSUMPTION AND MAXIMIZE
RENEWABLE ENERGIES TO DRIVE
TOWARDS NET ZERO.
TO MANAGE BETTER POLICY
DIRECTIVES AND GUIDANCE FOR OUR
DEPARTMENT.
EVERYONE HAS TO GATHER, ANALYZE
AND REPORT FACILITIES, THE
UTILITY AND USAGE AND COSTS.
THEN PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR UTILITY
RATE NEGOTIATIONS AND PERFORM
THE FACILITY ADDITIVES AND WE
TRACK THIS THROUGH OUR ENERGY
CAP PROGRAM AND I WAS BLOWN AWAY
AND YOU HAVE LISTENED TO EXPERTS
TALK ABOUT THIS, WE GATHER THE
DATA FROM 244 POSTS, 4,000
BUILDS AND VENDORS AND RATE
SCHEDULES AND 178 WEATHER
STATIONS, 90 PLUS FOREIGN
CURRENCIES AND THERE'S FOREIGN
LANGUAGES.
WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE DATA AND
IDENTIFY FEEDBACK LOOPS TO HELP
US IDENTIFY COST SAVING
OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WE TRY TO MAKE DATA-DRIVEN
DECISIONS.
I'LL PUNT BACK TO YA.
>> THANKS, DOUGLAS.
JI CAN ADD THAT WE JUST STARTED
A BRAND NEW INITIATIVE AT NNSA
CALLED THE ENERGY RESILIENCE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND CLIMATE
ADAPTATION.
WE CALL HER ERICA AND WE'RE REAL
EXCITE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH
THE ERICA PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S
ABOUT HOW TO CREATE RESILIENCE
IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE
AND DEAL WITH THE CLIMATE
CRISIS.
ONE OF THE REASONS I SIGNED UP
FOR THE SYMPOSIUM IS TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT ENVISION.
I'LL SEE HOW THIS HELPS WITH OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU MAY BE HEARING FROM ME IF
THE FUTURE, KURT.
THAT'S ALL I GOT.
>> THANKS, KURT.
NOW BACK TO ENVISION.
>> YES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
ENVISION PROCESS SIMILAR
ENVISION PROCESS AND TRYING TO
ACHIEVE THE CERTIFICATION YOU
WOULD LIKE IT ACHIEVE ON THE
PROJECT AND THOSE YOU CAN SEE
HERE QUALITY OF LIFE CERTAINLY A
BIG PIECE THERE LOOKING AT THE
WELL BEING AND MOBILITY IN THE
COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE IT'S A
PROJECT THAT FITS FOR THE
COMMUNITY, THE LEADERSHIP,
COLLABORATING AND PLANNING AND
ALSO LOOKING AT THE ECONOMIC
IMPACTS THERE AND SOME OF THE
RESOURCE ALLOCATION AND SOME
MATERIALS WE'LL BE USED AND
ENERGY AND WATER USAGE, NOT ONLY
DURING CONSTRUCTION BUT THEN
AFTER AND THEN LOOKING AT THE
NATURAL WORLD WHERE'S IT GOING
TO BE SITTING AND SOME OF THE
CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND THE
ECOLOGY.
THEN CERTAINLY OUR BIG TOPIC
HERE LOOKING AT THE CLIMATE AND
RESILIENCE.
WHAT ARE THE EMISSIONS AND
RESILIENCE ON THE PROJECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS WANT TO
TALK ON THAT.
AS FAR AS THE LEVELS ACHIEVEMENT
IT'S SIMILAR TO LEED BUT THE
THING THAT'S DIFFERENT IS YOU
CAN LOOK AT THE TOP LINE TO SEE.
YOU CAN HAVE AN IMPROVED AND
ENHANCED OR RESTORATIVE TYPE
PROJECT.
THE RESTORATIVE IS THE BEST WAY
TO BE TO WHERE YOU'RE
ESSENTIALLY YOUR PROJECT IS
HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE
ENVIRONMENT AS MUCH AS IT CAN
THERE'S MANY WAYS IT CAN HAPPEN
IN A PROJECT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BRONZE,
SILVER, GOLD AND PLATINUM
RATINGS, IF YOU HAVE A VERIFIED
PROJECT IT WILL GET YOU 20% OF
SCORING AND HAVE YOU HAVE IN
BETWEEN 20% 30% AND SILVER 30%
TO 40% AND GOLD LEVEL IS 40% TO
50% AND ANYTHING ABOVE 50% IS
YOUR PLATINUM LEVEL.
THEN AS YOU GO SIMILAR TO THE
LEED PROCESS THERE HAS TO BE A
VERIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE
PROJECT TO BECOME CERTIFIED.
THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO LOOK AT
THIS AND FOLLOW A TIME LINE TO
WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND
WENT TO CERTIFY THE PROJECTS AND
DURING THE WHOLE DESIGN PROCESS
AND THEN YOU CONFIRM AFTERWARDS
TO GET THE ACTUAL VERIFICATION
YOU GET THE REQUIREMENTS YOU
WERE TRYING TO MEET OR AFTER THE
PROJECT IS COMPLETE YOU CAN GO
AND GET THE PROJECT CERTIFIED
BUT CERTAINLY WHAT WE FOUND BEST
IS TO TRY AND WORK AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT AS MANY
OF US KNOW, YOU CAN SEE MAYBE
THERE'S CHANGES YOU CAN MAKE IN
THE DESIGN TO ACHIEVE A CERTAIN
LEVEL AND HAVE A MORE POSITIVE
SUSTAINABLE IMPACT ON THE
COMMUNITY AND THEIR ENVIRONMENT
WHERE THIS PROJECT MAY BE GOING.
AND IN THE PROCESS CAN TAKE UP
TO 90 DAYS TO GO THROUGH ALL
THIS AND CERTAINLY THERE ARE
FINANCIAL IMPACTS AND COST TO
ALL OF IT AS WELL.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> THE NEXT CERTIFICATION SYSTEM
IS LEED AND I WILL THROW THIS TO
DOUGLAS TO START US OFF.
>> THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY
HEART.
LEED IS THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE
RATING SYSTEM AND LEED VERSION
1.0 WAS A PILOT SYSTEM AND LEED
IS A VOLUNTARY SYSTEM REQUIRES
THIRD-PARTY VERSE FICTION FOR A
BUILDING OR COMMUNITY AND USING
STRATEGIES AIMED AT IMPROVING
PERFORMANCE ACROSS METRICS SUCH
AS ENERGY SAVING, EFFICIENCY,
CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS
REDUCTION, IMPROVED INDOOR AIR
QUALITY AND RESOURCED
STEWARDSHIP.
SO LEED IS FOR ALL BUILDING
TYPES.
THERE ARE SEVEN RATING SYSTEMS.
THE FIRST BUILDING DESIGN AND
CONSTRUCTION IS THE MOST
COMMONLY USED AND A FRAMEWORK
FOR BUILDING A HOLISTIC GREEN
BUILDING GIVEN THE
SUSTAINABILITY FEATURE WHILE
MAXIMIZING THE BENEFITS.
SO IT WILL COVER NEW
CONSTRUCTION, SHARED
DEVELOPMENT, DATA CENTERS,
HEALTH CARE, HOSPITALITY,
RETAIL, SCHOOLS AND WAREHOUSES
AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.
ON THE FAR RIGHT LEED ZERO.
PORE THAN 20 YEARS, LEED HAS
PROVIDED A FRAMEWORK FOR THIS
AND DEVELOPED LEED ZERO AND IT'S
MEANT TO BE AS A COMPLIMENT TO
LEAD THAT VERIFIES THE
ACHIEVEMENT.
AND THERE'S ZERO CARBON
RECOGNIZES NET CARBON EMISSIONS
FROM ENERGY CONSUMPTION THROUGH
CARBON EMISSIONS AVOIDED FOR A
PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS.
THERE'S ENERGY ZERO AND ZERO
ENERGY RECOGNIZING A SOURCE
ENERGY USE EVERY 10 TO 12 MONTHS
AND ZERO WATER AND ZERO WASTE
RECOGNIZES BUILDINGS ACHIEVE
TRUE CERTIFICATION AT THE
PLATINUM LEVEL AND LOOKS AT THE
OVERALL LIFE CYCLE COST OF THE
MATERIALS.
SO THERE ARE NINE AREAS OF
CONCENTRATION OF LEED CREDITS.
THE FIRST IS BRINGING PEOPLE TO
THE TABLE AT THE ONSET OF GOALS
SAVING TIME AND MONEY.
AND SUSTAINABLE SITES ADDRESSES
THE ENVIRONMENT SURROUNDING THE
BUILDING AND THE VITAL
RELATIONSHIPS AND ECO SYSTEMS
AND ECO SYSTEM SERVICES WATER
EFFICIENT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT
THE USES AND MEASURES ALL
SOURCES OF WATER ENERGY AND
ATMOSPHERE REDUCING ENERGY
DEMAND FOR PRODUCTS RELATED TO
ENERGY USE AND EFFICIENCY AND
THEN REWARDING -- PROVIDING
AWARDS FOR RENEWABLES AND
GREATER ENERGY AND OPERATIONAL
PERFORMERS AND THEN THE BENEFITS
OF AN OPTION THAT REWARDS
PROJECTS FOR PARTICIPATING IN
RESPONSE PROGRAMS.
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
AND MANUFACTURING, TRANSFER AND
MAINTENANCE THROUGH THEN OF
LIFE.
LOOK AT HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND
PROTECTING THE HEALTH AND
COMFORT THEN THERE'S ROOM FOR
INNOVATION.
THIS ALLOWS NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND
THIS CATEGORY ENCOURAGES
FEATURES AND LASTLY, THE AWARDS
FOR REGIONAL PRIORITY AND
ENCOURAGES THE TEAM TO FOCUS ON
LOCAL PRIORITIES.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT
SUBSTITUTIONS TO BE APPLIED TO
THE VERSION THAT MAY BE EASIER
TO ACHIEVE.
>> EXCELLENT.
I WAS GOING TO ASK IF LEED HAS
BEEN AROUND FOR TWO DECADES OR
MORE HOW HAS IT EVOLVED AND
STAYING RELEVANT.
>> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONSENSUS
FOR THE ORGANIZATION.
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THE
FIRST LEED WAS LIKE THAT AND
IT'S LIKE BUILDING CODES IT'S
EVOLVED AND TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT
THE ENVIRONMENT AND A CONSENSUS
BASIS.
>> I'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE
TO TALK ABOUT ACHIEVEMENT
LEVELS.
>> I'LL PIGGY BACK ON WHAT
DOUGLAS IS TALKING ABOUT.
WHEN I TOOK THE LEED FOR 2008
AND THE MANUAL'S 400 PAGES AND
THEN 600 PAGES AND THE VERSION 4
IS UP TO 800 PAGES.
IT LAYS OUT A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT
YOU HAVE TO DO AND PROVE IT FOR
THE DIFFERENT POINTS MOVING
FORWARD.
WE HAVE THE EXCEPTIONAL PROJECTS
WHICH TEND TO BE 2% TO 3% OF ALL
LEED PROJECTS.
WE AS FEDERAL EMPLOYEES ARE
REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE GUIDING
PRINCIPLES AND DEPENDING ON
WHERE IT'S LOCATED CAN PUT YOU
IN THE SILVER CERTIFIED RANGE
AND IT GIVES A SENSE HOW IT
LINES IN WITH THE GUIDING
PRINCIPLES AND LOOKING AT THE
COST DIFFERENCE AND USING THE
INTEGRATED PROCESS AND DO A
GREAT JOB IN PLANNING WHICH
MAKES FOR A CLEANER, SMOOTHER
EXECUTION.
BACK TO YOU.
>> THANKS, WAYNE.
>> SO LEED VERIFICATION, TEAMS
NEED TO VERIFY THEY ARE DOING WA
THEY SAY THEY ARE DOING.
BACK IN THE EARLY DAYS THERE WAS
GREEN WASH AND ONE OF THE THINGS
LEED DOES IS HELPS SO IT'S A
THIRD-PARTY VERIFICATION SYSTEM.
SO THERE WAS THE DATA AND THEN
THE TEAM SUBMITS THE
DOCUMENTATION TO SUBJECT MATTER
EXPERTS AND BASED ON THE
SUBMISSION IT WILL HAVE SUBJECT
DOCUMENTATION FOR CLARIFICATION
FROM THE DESIGN TEAM, DENY THE
CREDIT.
AND YOU HAVE THE NON CREDIT.
HOW ARE THE CREDITS RATED IN THE
CATEGORIES?
THE LEED RATING SYSTEM ALLOCATES
POINTS TO INCENTIVIZE PROJECT
TEAMS TO COMPLY AND ADDRESS
SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL, AND
ECONOMIC OUTCOMES IDENTIFIED BY
THE USGBC AND POINTS ARE
ANNOTATED THROUGH A PROCESS
WHERE THEY LOOK AT ONE OR MORE
POINTS BASED ON THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF ESTABLISHING
THE GOALS FROM THE SYSTEM.
THE MORE EFFECTIVE THE CREDIT
REQUIREMENTS ARE IN ADDRESSING
THE GOALS OF A SYSTEM THE MORE
POINTS IT RECEIVES.
HERE YOU CAN SEE AND THAT'S THE
BIGGEST THING THAT IMPACTS
SUBMISSIONS.
AND HOW TO USE ENERGY AND THEN
LOOKING AT REDUCING 15% AND
THEY'RE BOTH RELATED TO HEALTH.
TRANSPORTATION IF YOU WALK OR
BIKE VERSUS DRIVING A CAR AND SO
THAT'S HOW LEAD IS PLATED IN THE
POINTS.
>> YOU WANT TO CLOSE OUT AS WE
MOVE AWAY FROM TALKING ABOUT
LEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING ABOUT
LEED THAT WAS MENTIONED IN OUR
VISION PRESENTATION.
LEED ACCREDITED PROFESSIONALS
ACHIEVE AN ACCREDITATION THAT'S
A PERSONAL LEVEL OF ACHIEVEMENT
WHERE BUILDINGS ARE GETTING A
CERTIFICATION AS THEY ARE
ACHIEVING THEIR LEVELS OF
SUCCESS.
SO WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
WHAT BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS
ARE, ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE LARGER
CONTEXT OF GREEN BUILDING AND
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT LEAD AND
ENVISION BUT HOW ARE GREEN
BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS BEING
USED?
WE KNOW THEY ARE BUT HOW ARE WE
USING THEM?
I'M GOING TO ASK EACH OF THE
AGENCIES TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH YOUR
AGENCY USES GREEN BUILDING
CERTIFICATIONS AND WHAT THE
PURPOSE IS.
KURT, LET'S START WITH YOU.
>> THE NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE,
WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR LEAD AND
WORK WITH CONTRACTORS TO HAVE
THEM GO THROUGH THE CHECKLIST
AND VERIFY AND HAVE CONTRACT
REGULATIONS SET IN TO MEET THESE
CERTAIN LEVELS IN THE CONTRACT
AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL GO
THROUGH.
SOME BUILDINGS ARE CERTIFIED AND
SOME ARE NOT.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SIZE AND
FUNDING AND THINGS.
CERTAINLY WORK THROUGH THE
PROCESS AND NOW TRYING TO
INCORPORATE SOME OF THE ENVISION
FOR SEVERAL MORE UTILITY
PROJECTS.
>> WAYNE, WHAT ABOUT THE NNSA?
>> WE HAVE ABOUT 200 SITES AND
40,000 CONTRACTORS.
THERE'S TOO MANY CONTRACTORS AND
TOO MUCH WORK FOR US TO GET IN
THE DETAILS AND HOW DO WE KNOW
THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB AND
THEY'RE BUILDING SUSTAINABLY?
WE PUSH THEM TO USE INDEPENDENT
THIRD-PARTY CERTIFICATIONS TO
GET CERTIFIED IN LEED AND
DEMONSTRATE THE SYSTEMS ARE IN
PLACE AND THE PROCESS IS IN
PLACE AND THERE'S STANDARD
SPECIFICATIONS ALWAYS UPGRADED.
IT ALLOWS US TO LEVERAGE THE
LIMITED FEDERAL OVERSIGHT WE
HAVE TO HELP ENSURE THE
TAXPAYERS ARE CONSIDERED AND OUR
MISSION IS MET.
>> I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID
AND KURT SAID.
I THINK IT'S CLEAR TO SHOW
TAXPAYERS THE SUSTAINABILITY IN
SAVINGS AND SOME OF THE WAYS WE
USE LEED IS THE PLAQUE IS THE
PLAQUE IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO
THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE LOOKING
AT AN AREA WHERE ENERGY IS AN
ISSUE WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS
AND IF IT'S AN AREA WHERE WATER
IS IN SHORT SUPPLY AND ABLE TO
DO INNOVATIVE WASTE WATER
TECHNOLOGIES.
IT SHOWS WE'RE GOOD STEWARDS SO
THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER WAYS WE
USE IT.
>> RIGHT.
IN LOOKING AT THE ECO DIPLOMACY
ASPE
ASPECT.
>> THIS SHOWS THE IMPACT AROUND
THE WORLD AND WE NOW HAVE 55
LEED CERTIFIED PROJECT IN 17
COUNTRIES AND WE HAVE AMERICAN
VALUES AND ARCHITECTURE AND
TECHNOLOGY TO THE HOST COUNTRY.
WE HAVE AT LEAST 52 MORE
PROJECTS IN THE PROCESS AND AS
YOU CAN IMAGINE WE'RE LOOKING AT
THIS MAP AND WE WORK WITH SO
MANY CLIMATES WITH VARIOUS
DEGREES OF AVAILABILITY AND
RESOURCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT WE HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND
INNOVATIVE.
WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE
LOCALITY.
SO THIS IS OUR RENEWABLE ENERGY
LOCATIONS.
WE HAVE THREE AND 40 INSTALLED
CENTER AND SO THE QUESTION IS IS
THIS THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG
SITUATION.
WAS IT BECAUSE LEED WE HAD THOSE
OR IS IT BECAUSE OF POLICIES AND
EXECUTIVE ORDERS OR BOTH.
I THINK IT'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS
AND POLICIES AND LEED BENEFITTED
BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
I'M FAIRLY NEW IN THE DEPARTMENT
BUT I LIVE WITH THAT BUT IT
SHOWS WE'RE MAKING AN IMPACT
AROUND THE WORLD WITH OUR HOST
COUNTRY AND BEING GOOD STEWARDS
OF THEIR RESOURCES.
IT HELPS TO MAKE OUR PROJECT
MORE RESILIENT AND LESS RELIANT
ON THE POWER GRID.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXECUTIVE
ORDERS WE HAVE SUBMISSIONS WITH
OUR PORTFOLIO.
>> THAT'S VERY TRUE.
SO WHAT ARE THEN THE BENEFITS
ALONG WITH EVERYTHING WE
DISCUSSED SO FAR.
WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF USING A
GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATION?
WAYNE, DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON
THIS?
>> I ALLUDED TO IT PREVIOUSLY.
WE REALIZE THE DATA-DRIVEN
DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
I WANTED TO SAY WHILE WE'RE
REQUIRING LEGAL CERTIFICATIONS
OR A WAIVER, WE DON'T TELL THEM
WHICH ONES.
AGAIN, WE GO AFTER AN OFFICE
BUILDING OR WAREHOUSE OR AFTER A
DATA CENTER.
WE DON'T FORCE A SQUARE PEG INTO
A ROUND HOLE.
WE HAD ENGINEERING LABORATORIES
GETTING GOLD AND HAD SOME UNIQUE
FACILITIES AND WE TRY NOT TO
MICROMANAGE THE CONTRACT AND
GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY.
J TO HAVE A SUSTAINABLE PROJECT
AND IN PRESERVING THE LANDS FOR
CURRENT AND FUTURE TO ENJOY
HAVING SOMETHING SUSTAINABLE IS
A REQUIREMENT AND A NECESSITY.
>> DOUGLAS, IS THERE ANYTHING
ELSE YOU'D WANT TO ADD?
>> HAVING DIPLOMACY OPENS THE
DOOR.
>> HOW WOULD YOU CHOOSE BETWEEN
ALL THESE OBJECTIVES THAT A
PROJECT MAY HAVE AND AGENCY IS
LOOKING AT.
WHAT ARE THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN
CHOOSING THE RIGHT BUILDING
CERTIFICATION FOR A PROJECT?
>> IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF
PROJECT WHETHER IT'S VERTICAL OR
HORIZONTAL.
THE HORIZONTAL PROJECTS MAY FIT
IN THE ENVISION AND EVEN SOME
WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS MAY
NEED TO USE THE LEED PROCESS FOR
THE BUILDING PART OF THE
TREATMENT PLANT.
THERE'S NOT A WRONG ONE IN WHAT
WILL HELP FOR THE PROJECT.
>> DOUGLAS.
>> THERE'S NOT -- WE LOOK AT
LEED BECAUSE IT'S A HOLISTIC
SYSTEM AND WE ARE VERY CLIMATE
CHANGE AND RESILIENCY AND 30% OF
THE BENEFITS ARE RELATED TO
CLIMATE CHANGE AND THAT'S A BIG
DEAL FOR US TO BE RESILIENT.
>> WAYNE, I'LL CLOSE OUT WITH
YOU.
>> I AGREE WITH WHAT WE TALKED
ABOUT PREVIOUSLY BUT WE INCLUDED
A WAIVER PROCESS WITHIN OUR
SYSTEM SO WE HAVE A UNIQUE
HIGH-ENERGY USING BUILDING
CREATING SOME TYPE OF WIDGET.
MAYBE IT'S A HIGH SECURITY
PROJECT OR SOMETHING.
WE NEED SOME ABILITY TO WAVE THE
LEED REQUIREMENT WHEN IT'S JUST
NOT ACHIEVABLE OR IN THE
INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY.
WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY.
WE GET TO LEED GOLD AND I'LL
TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE LESSONS
LEARNED BECAUSE THE WAIVER COULD
BE DOWN TO SILVER, DOWN TO
CERTIFIED AND LOW-LEVEL
CERTIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE
PROJECT.
>> THAT BRINGS US TO OUR NEXT
SECTION.
I ALSO WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF
THE TIME WE HAVE ABOUT 30
MINUTES LEFT AND THE TWO
SECTIONS AND Q&A AS WE MOVE
FORWARD.
HOW ARE WE USING GREEN BUILDING
CERTIFICATION?
THERE'S A PROCESS TO EVERY
PROJECT AND THERE'S DIFFERENT
WAYS IN WHICH WE'RE DELIVERING
THOSE PROJECTS SO WHAT ARE
THINGS PEOPLE SHOULD CONSIDER
WITH THE PROJECT PROCESS OR
BETWEEN DELIVERY METHODS?
>> I WOULD SAY THE CONSIDERATION
SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE
PRE-PLANNING PHASE AND THE
DESIGN PROCESS ITSELF WILL
DETERMINE THE SUCCESS AND COST
EFFECTIVENESS OF THE RATING
SYSTEM AND THAT'S WHERE AGAIN AN
INNOVATIVE DESIGN PROCESS CAN
MAKE OR BREAK A PROJECT.
WE HAVE TO CHALLENGE PEOPLE TO
GO OUTSIDE THE COMFORT ZONE AND
LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENTLY.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE
INNOVATIVE PROCESS DOES.
>> WAYNE.
>> THESE ARE MULTIYEAR PROJECTS
AND CRITICAL DECISION AND
IDENTIFICATION OF THE MISSION
NEED.
DO WE NEED A WIDGET OR SPACE AND
THEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE
SPACE.
CAN WE BUY IT OR BUILD IT?
THERE'S A PROGRAM REQUIREMENT
DOCUMENT THAT ROLLS INTO THE
LEED PROCESS.
IT'S IMPORTANT EARLY ON TO
IDENTIFY THE EXPECTATIONS AND WE
HAVE AN ANALYSIS AND LOOK BACK
AND SEE IF WE MET THE VISION
ZERO REQUIREMENTS AND ARE WE ON
TRACK FOR AN OPERATING AUTHORITY
THAT'S GOING TO MEET THE
REQUIREMENT.
REVISIT THE QUESTION
PERIODICALLY AND ENSURE THINGS
STAY ON TRACK.
>> AGREED.
KURT, ANYTHING TO ADD?
>> I AGREE.
UP FRONT IS THE WAY TO GO.
>> SO THEN IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS
ON PROJECT DELIVERY METHODS?
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'VE BEEN
LOOKING AT QUITE A BIT.
>> WE USE THE TWO DELIVERY
METHODS WITH A LEAN TOWARDS
DESIGN BUILD.
IT DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW FOR
HOLISTIC COLLABORATION AND WITH
TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THE LEED
CHECKLIST IS CAST IN STONE BIT
THE TIME THEY BID THE WORK AND
WHERE THE DESIGN THERE'S MORE
OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION
BETWEEN THE ENTIRE TEAM AND
THAT'S HOW I VIEW IT.
>> NICE.
OKAY.
THOSE ARE GREAT THOUGHTS.
WE'RE GOING TO ROLL INTO PROJECT
EXAMPLES THE FIRST IS THE
SUSPECT EMBASSY IN YEMEN.
DOUGLAS.
>>
>> THE PROJECT WAS AWARDED LEED
CERTIFICATION AND THE FIRST IN
WEST AFRICA AND OUR PRESENTATION
OF HOW THE PROJECT EXCEEDED
EXPECTATIONS USING THE DESIGN
MODEL THAT EMPLOYED THE
INNOVATIVE PROCESS WITH
STRATEGIES OF RESILIENCE IN
CLIMATE.
THE CITY'S CHALLENGES AND LACK
OF INFRASTRUCTURE, RESOURCES,
SECURITY CONCERNS AND
OPPORTUNITIES.
YOU HAVE TO THINK OF IT AS
OPPORTUNITIES AND TO ACHIEVE
LEED PLATINUM AND PART OF THE
STRATEGY WAS ON SITE TREATMENT
OF WATER FOR WASTE WATER
MANAGEMENT AND ENERGY COSTS WERE
REDUCED BY 65% WITH 52% OF THE
TOTAL ENERGY COST GENERATED ON
SITE AND THEN THE ARCHITECT HAD
CARBON FOR CREDIT FOR INNOVATIVE
MATERIALS.
SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT WHAT YOU
MAY THINK AS AN OBSTACLE AS AN
OPPORTUNITY YOU MAY EXCEED.
AND WE HAVE ACHIEVEMENTS WE HAD
100% IRRIGATION SAVINGS.
75% REDUCTION AND ANOTHER SLIDE
THAT THE DESIGN TEAM HAVE
DEVICES AND THERE'S A LOT OF
STRONG SUNSHINE AND LOOK AT THE
DESIGN NOR ENERGY USE FOR -- FOR
THE ENERGY USE FOR THE FACILITY.
AND THE CITY OF WHICH TAPESTRY
AND COLOR, TEXTURE AND MATERIALS
FOR THE PROJECT AND IF YOU LOOK
AT THIS YOU SEE THE CANOPIES YOU
CAN'T REALLY TELL THE PHOTO THE
CANOPIES BUT INFORMED THE
SHADING OF THE BUILDING AND
SHIELDED THE BUILD FROM THE
INTENSE WEST AFRICAN SUN AND
LOOKED AT THE LANDSCAPE AND
TRADITION WHICH WAS TO USE THE
SHADING AND TRIED TO USE THAT
AND THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL AT
THIS.
AND WE TRY TO DO FURTHER
DIPLOMACY BY INCORPORATING LOCAL
ARTISTS AS WELL AS ARTISTS FROM
THE UNITED STATES TO CELEBRATE
THE CULTURAL CONNECTS BETWEEN
OUR COUNTRIES AND TO FOSTER
CROSS-CULTURAL DIALOGUE.
>> THANKS, DOUGLAS.
OUR NEXT PROJECT EXAMPLE THE
NNSA JOHN GORDON FACILITY.
>> THANKS.
WE'RE EXCITE ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT WORKED
AT THE SITE HIRED IN THE LATE
'70s AND SAID THEY GOT THIS NEW
BUILDING PROJECT IN MIND WANTED
TO WORK ON THE SITE.
THERE'S LOTS OF FITS AND STARTS
AND WE FINALLY GOT IT AND GET
THE KEYS TO THE BUILDING THIS
WEEK SO I'M EXCITED, $175
MILLION AND THE OXYGEN ACCOUNT
DRIFTED TO 1250 AND WE START AT
1200 AND YOU SEE THE PHOTO.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE
CONSTRUCTION PHASE OBVIOUSLY.
WE TRIED TO USE COLOR SO IT
BLENDS INTO THE BACKGROUND HAVE
20 ACRES.
WE HAD PARKING AND THAT WILL
BECOME IMPORTANT LATER AND WE
TALKED ABOUT ACQUIRING GOLD AND
INTEGRATIVE PROJECT TEAMS AND
SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS EARLY ON
AND THE WE MEET BIWEEKLY FOR
LIKE SIX YEARS AND HAVE SPECIFIC
MEETINGS TO FOCUS ON LEED ISSUES
AS WELL.
SO DOUGLAS TALKED ABOUT
SUSTAINABLE SITES AND HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS.
BECAUSE OUR SITE IS ONLY 20
ACRES, WE DID NOT HAVE ROOM FOR
1200 PARKING SHOTS.
WE HAVE ABOUT 950 OR SO PARKING
SPOTS SO HOW CAN YOU MEET THE
CODE?
WELL, IF YOU HAVE BIKE LOCKERS,
THE OVAL SHAPED UNITS IN FRONT
OF THE BUILDING, WE HAVE SHOWER
FACILITIES, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO
BUS ROUTES AND PARKING FOR KARR
POOLS AND YOU CAN REDUCE THE
AMOUNT -- CARPOOLS AND CAN
REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
NEEDED TO BUILD A PARKING LOT.
WE ALSO HOUSE ALTERNATIVE WORK
SCHEDULES AND SOME HAVE
TRANSITIONED TO FULL-TIME REMOTE
AND TO PEOPLE ON VACATION AND
TELEWORKING WE THINK WE CAN DO
950 PARKING SPOTS FOR 1200
PEOPLE AND SOMETHING WE WOULDN'T
HAVE GOTTEN IF WE FOLLOWED
NORMAL CODE.
THE BUS RIDERS ARE IMPORTANT.
I MET WITH THE CITY OF
ALBUQUERQUE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE
AT LEAST TWO BUSSES COMING TO
OUR SITES TWICE A DAY AND THIS
IS A GREEN FIELD SITE AND HAVE
YOU THE BUS STOP A QUARTER MILE
AWAY AND WE WORKED WITH THE
U.S. GREEN BUILDING COUNCIL TO
GET A SPECIAL VARIANCE BECAUSE
IT HAS TO BE EXISTING BUS STOP
ACCORDING TO THE 2009 VERSION.
WE CREATED A NEW BUS STOP.
ANYWAY, IT'S SEVEN POINTS WE
DIDN'T EXPECT WE DIDN'T KNOW
WE'D GET UNTIL THE END.
TALKING ABOUT WATER EFFICIENCY
AND YOU HAVE EIGHT TO 10 INCHES
A YEAR AND EASY TO INSTALL
LOW-FLOW FIXTURE AND BECAUSE WE
HAVE ENERGY ROOF SPACE WE
CREATED SYSTEMS.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WATER THE
LOCAL ENVIRONMENT WITH RAIN
WATER AND CONDENSATE FROM THE
HVAC SYSTEM AND WE HAVE TWO
YEARS TO GET IT ESTABLISHED AND
THEN JUST USE RAIN WATER AND
WHAT I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITE
ABOUT THIS IS AN INNOVATION THAT
WHAT HAPPENED WE HAVE STORM
WATER BECAUSE MOST OF OUR RAIN
IS THROUGH THUNDERSTORMS AND YOU
WANT TO DO AS MUCH AS ON SITE AS
YOU CAN.
WE DID IT UNDER THE PARKING LOT
SO WE DIDN'T NEED AN ACRE OF
SPACE FOR THE FILTRATION.
IT'S UNDER THE PARKING LOT SO
SAVED SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WE'RE
EXCITE ABOUT THAT.
SO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES REFER
TO BEING 90% BETTER AND LIFE
CYCLE COST EFFECTIVE AND WE WERE
ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE
FACILITY AND WE HAVE AN
EMERGENCY CENTER AND DATA CENTER
AND WE HAVE HIGH ENERGY USE FOR
THAT BUILDING AND WE FOUND WAYS
TO CUT THAT ENERGY USE.
I'M PROUD OF THE BUILDING
INTEGRATED WINDOWS IN OUR
WINDOWS.
THE SUNLIGHT COMING THROUGH THE
WINDOWS GENERATES POWER.
THAT'S A NEAT DEMONSTRATION OF
INNOVATION WE DID AND I'LL TALK
ABOUT ONE OF THE OTHER SLIDES
A
AND MATERIALS AND RESOURCES IS
PRET
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND WE
TALKED ABOUT MATERIALS.
INDOOR AIR QUALITY, THIS IS
STRAIGHTFORWARD, LOW VOC AND
THINGS YOU DON'T WANT WHAT THEY
CALL SICK BUILDING SYNDROME.
NEW FURNITURE AND ALL THAT STUFF
HAS GAS AND THAT CAN MAKE PEOPLE
SICK.
THIS FACILITY IS DESIGNED TO
HAVE 100% ONCE THROUGH AIR AND
THERE'LL BE WEEKS WHERE WE HAVE
TO FLUSH THE BUILDING OUT BEFORE
PEOPLE MOVE IN.
ONCE THE OUTSIDE AIR MEETS
YOU'RE NOT RECYCLING COLD AND
FLU VIRUSES THE AIR IS TREATED
AND HEAT RECOVERY SYSTEM
CAPTURES THE ENERGY AND IMPROVES
THE EFFICIENCY AND MAKING IT A
HEALTHIER BUILDING A GREAT PLACE
TO WORK.
AND THIS HAS BEEN A 10-YEAR
PROCESS AND LOOKED AT THE
POSSIBILITY OF RENTING AND
LEASING SPACE AND WE GET THE
KEYS IN TWO DAYS.
WE GET THE KEYS TO THE REST OF
THE BUILDING ON THURSDAY AND WE
HAVE TO MOVE IN WITH THE
FURNITURE AND DATA CENTER AND AV
EQUIPMENT AND OFFICE FURNITURE
BEFORE WE MOVE PEOPLE IN TO
ALLOW THE BUILDING TO FLUSH OUT
BEFORE WE MOVE IN.
WE'RE ALSO UNDER THE LEED 2009
VERSION WHICH EXPIRES IN JUNE SO
WE'RE CLOSE TO THAT EXPIRATION
DATE BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT.
>> THAT'S IT, WAYNE, AND EARLY
CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING YOUR
KEYS.
>> WE'RE EXCITED.
>> SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE A LOT
OF GREAT WORK AND LOOKING
FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THE
BUILDING PERFORMS ONCE YOU GET
IN.
THE LAST SECTION OF THE DAY ARE
LESSONS LEARN AND NOW THAT WE
HAVE PROJECT EXAMPLES WHAT ARE
EXPERTS LEARNED IN THE PROJECT
WORK AROUND GREEN BUILDING
CERTIFICATION.
THE FIRST THING WE WANTED TO
TALK ABOUT ARE WHAT ARE BEST
PRACTICES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE BEST
PRACTICES WHEN IT COMES TO
BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS?
>> MAKING SURE THAT YOU START
LOOKING AT INCORPORATING ALL
THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS IN THE
CERTIFICATION PROCESS WHENEVER
METHOD AND MODEL YOU CHOOSE IN
THE BEGINNING AND I WOULD SAY
THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE AND
UNDERSTANDING THERE'LL BE A COST
ASSOCIATED IF YOU WANT TO
CERTIFY IT AND CERTAINLY LOTS OF
TIME AND WORTHWHILE ENERGY
INVOLVED WITH ALL OF IT.
>> DOUGLAS?
>> I'D SAY MAKE SURE YOUR STAFF
AND YOUR TEAM AND CONTRACTORS
AND ENGINEERING HAVE EDUCATIONAL
SESSIONS AND THE LEED REFERENCE
GUIDES.
THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE AND
ABBREVIATED VERSIONS FOR THE
DOCUMENTATION AND I WOULD
REITERATE START EARLY IN THE
PROCESS AND INVITE PARTICIPANTS,
REVIEW DECISIONS THROUGH THE
PROJECT.
VIEW CHALLENGES AS
OPPORTUNITIES.
>> WAYNE, ANY BEST PRACTICES?
>> NOTHING TO ADD HERE.
>> ANYTHING TO THE ENVISION
CHECKLIST YOU'D WANT TO MENTION?
>> JUST I KNOW THIS IS A HARD
GRAPHIC FOR EVERYONE TO SEE BUT
THERE'S QUITE THERE'S A GREAT
EXCEL DOCUMENT FOR THIS AND
QUITE A BIT OF DETAIL IN THERE
IN HOW TO GET TO THE RESTORATIVE
LEVEL.
IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR EVERY
ITEM THERE WHEN YOU'RE DOING AND
LOOKING AT THE CHECKLIST.
IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO
STRIVE FOR AND GO THROUGH IN
WORKING WITH THE EXCEL DOCUMENT
TO TOTAL THINGS OUT FOR YOU AND
WORKS WELL.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> THANKS, KURT.
WAYNE, ANY PARTICULAR COMMENTS
ON THE LEED CHECKLIST FOR THE
GORDAN FACILITY?
>> THIS IS AN AN UPDATE FROM A
MONTH OR SO AGO.
WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT'S
GOING ON AND I DON'T EXPECT
PEOPLE TO READ THE POINT SYSTEM
BUT I WANT TO GET AT THE
DIFFERENT COLOR CODING SYSTEM.
SO THE STUFF IN GREEN WAS
AWARDED AT THE END OF THE DESIGN
WEN THE DESIGN PACKAGE CAME
THROUGH AND WE HAVE 47 POINTS OF
DESIGN WHICH IS CERTIFIED AND
THEN WE HAVE TO GO FOR
CONSTRUCTION AND SO ONES IN
YELLOW ARE THINGS THE
CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR WERE
REASONABLE FOR AND IN BLUE OR
TURQUOISE THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE
TRANSPORTATION POINT AND ENDS UP
BEING SEVEN POINTS IN THE NAVY
COLUMN AND THE CONTRACTOR DID A
BETTER JOB RECYCLING MATERIALS.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL GET TWO
POINTS INSTEAD OF ONE BUT THEY
WEREN'T ABLE TO DIVERT 95% OF
THEIR CONSTRUCTION WASTE.
THE LESSONS LEARN FROM THE
PREVIOUS PROJECT MANAGER WAS PUT
IT ON THE STACK THE CONTRACTOR
HAS TO DO IT.
THERE'S NO MARKET FOR 95%
PARTICULARLY DRY WALL IS HARD TO
RECYCLE.
WE COULDN'T HOLD ON TO THAT
REQUIREMENT.
WE HAD AN INDEPENDENT
COMMISSIONING AGENT THAT SAID WE
CAN DO WHOLE BUILDING COMMISSION
COMMISSION FOR YOU AND WE CAN
SUBSTITUTE THE CERTIFIED AMOUNT
AND CONSTRUCTION WASTE WE CAN'T
QUITE MEET THAT SO WE CAN MIX
AND MATCH AND HAVE DONE THAT
WORKING AS A TEAM.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE EXCITED
ABOUT IS BECAUSE WE'RE ON TRACK
FOR A LOT MORE POINTS THAN WE
NEED WE CAN PURCHASE GREEN POWER
AND WE DON'T NEED TO PURCHASE
THE REX AND WE'RE IN THE 70
POINT RANGE AND WE HAVE LOTS OF
LEED CONTINGENCY POINTS AND
CONFIDENT WE CAN LEAD TO LEED
GOLD SCORE.
>> THANKS, WAYNE.
AND FINALLY, DOUGLAS, ANY
COMMENTS ON YOUR CHECKLIST?
>> TURNING CHALLENGES INTO
OPPORTUNITIES AND WHERE THE SITE
WAS LOCATED IT'S A HARSH
ENVIRONMENT THAT'S HOT.
AND ACCESS TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND
RESOURCES WAS LIMITED BUT LOOK
WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT THE
ARCHITECT ENGINEERING AND DESIGN
MANAGER DID.
THEY TURNED US INTO AN
AWARD-WINNING LEED PLATINUM
PROJECT.
AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GO BEYOND
THAT AND TAKING A CHALLENGE AND
TURNING IT INTO AN OPPORTUNITY.
>> AWESOME.
THANKS, DOUGLAS.
SO IN CONSIDERATION OF BEST
PRACTICES, SOMETIMES AS WE'VE
MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THERE MAY
BE SOME TRADE-OFFS OR CHALLENGES
THAT WE CAN TURN INTO
OPPORTUNITIES FOR SURE BUT WHAT
ARE SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGE AND
TRADE-OFFS IN USING GREEN
BUILDING CERTIFICATION.
WAYNE, STARTING WITH YOU THIS
TIME.
>> THE LOCATION.
BY BEING ABLE TO BE IN THE SPACE
AND WORKING WITH THE U.S. GREEN
BUILDING COUNCIL AND CITY OF
ALBUQUERQUE WE WERE ABLE TO GET
CREDITS FOR THE BEST STATION AND
ALLOW THE USE OF THE BUS SYSTEM
AND FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW
HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORKS
WE GET A TRAVEL SUBSIDY AND YOU
CAN RIDE THE BUS SYSTEM WITH A
PASS OR CAN GET RIDES FOR A YEAR
AND THAT JUST STARTED AN IN THE
INTEREST OF TIME I'LL PASS MY
TIME TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> KURT.
>> I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADHERE.
LACK OF FLEXIBILITY WOULD BE IN
THE BEGINNING ONES -- ONCE YOU
MAKE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS
SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO GO BACK
AND CHANGE THOSE.
>> DOUGLAS, ANYTHING ELSE?
>> SOMETIMES SECURITY
REQUIREMENTS PREVENTS YOU FROM
BEING TOO FLEXIBLE.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE
LOCATION SPECIFIC NEEDS AND
TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES
AND THERE'S A DISCUSSION SHOULD
WE MAKE A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT
FOR LEED CERTIFICATION FOR
FACILITIES TO INCLUDE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE STATIONS AND SOME MAY
NOT HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE
DISTRIBUTORSHIP IN THAT CITY OR
INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT CITY.
IN THOSE CASES YOU HAVE TO LOOK
AT THE SPECIFIC AVAILABILITY OF
THAT RELATIVE TO THE LOCATION.
>> ALL GREAT POINTS.
OUR FINAL TWO SLIDES, WE'LL TALK
ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WHAT ARE OPPORTUNITIES IN
USING GREEN BUILDING
CERTIFICATIONS?
WAYNE, ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS?
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
WORK ON THE STAKEHOLDER
COLLABORATION.
IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY.
SO WHEN WE KICKED OFF
CONSTRUCTION WE HAD ALL THE
CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS OUT AND
GREAT PDR AND PEOPLE HAVE MIXED
FEELINGS ABOUT THE NATIONAL
NUCLEAR AND SECURITY
ADMINISTRATION, WE WANT TO SHOW
WE'RE A GOOD MEMBER OF THE
COMMUNITY.
PART OF THE THINGS DOUGLAS
REFERRED TO AND WITH RESPECT TO
WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
I THINK GETTING STAKEHOLDERS
INVOLVED AND KEEPING THEM
INVOLVED AND KEEPING THEM IN THE
LOOP AND HELPING THINGS MOVE
FORWARD AND WE KEPT EVERYBODY
ENGAGED ALL ALONG.
>> HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
KURT, WOULD YOU MIND TALKING TO
THE DIAGRAM WE WERE SHOWING ON
THE SLIDE RIGHT NOW.
>> YES, I THINK WAYNE MENTIONED
A LITTLE BIT IN WORKING WITH THE
STAKEHOLDERS AND LOOKING AT
YOUR -- SORRY, I'M TRYING TO
ZOOM IN HERE AGAIN.
YOU'RE QUADRANT IN THE MIDDLE
YOU HAVE YOUR PLANNING PIECE AND
DESIGN.
ONCE YOU GET OUT TOWARDS THE I
GUESS YOU CAN CALL IT THE X, Y
AND Z AND CALL IT THE Y TOWARDS
THE TOP AND THE X AND Z ON THE
BOTTOM.
THAT HELPS YOU STAY IN THE
SUSTAINABILITY QUADRANT ONCE YOU
START GOING TOWARDS THE Y AXIS
AND TRYING TO LOOK AT SOME OF
THOSE AREAS AND ACHIEVING THE
RESTORATIVE CAN YOU WILL UP THE
PIECE UP TO PIECE THE LEVELS.
IT'S NOT EASY TO GET UP THERE
AND I GUESS THIS GRAPHIC NOT
EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND HELPS YOU
TO ACHIEVE THOSE LEVELS WHEN YOU
LOOK AT AND SHOWS HOW
COMPLICATED IT IS, IF THAT MAKES
ANY SENSE.
THERE'S MANY QUADRANTS TO LOOK
AT AND GETTING STAKEHOLDERS
INVOLVED NOBODY WANTS A WASTE
WATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THEIR
BACKYARD, I SHOULDN'T SAY
NOBODY, MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT
THAT.
WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND
HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS AND
UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOUR END LIFE
MIGHT BE ON THAT PROJECT AND HOW
IT MIGHT IMPACT THE COMMUNITY
AND CAN IT BE A RESTORATIVE
PROJECT WILL HELP YOU MOVE
TOWARDS A BIAS LEVEL.
>> AWESOME.
THANKS, KURT.
FINALLY, DOUGLAS, ANY
OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE FOR GREEN
BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS?
>> EVERYTHING'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
IT REALLY IS.
DO THE PROCESS EARLY, INNOVATE
AS MANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS
INVOLVED AND CHALLENGE THEM TO
THINK DIFFERENTLY.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO THINK
DIFFERENTLY WHERE THERE'S AN
AREA OR LOCATION WHERE CERTAIN
THINGS ARE NOT AVAILABLE YOU
HAVE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY AND
CONSIDER THE OPTIONS AS
OPPORTUNITIES AND SOMETIMES IN
THE PLANNING DESIGN AND THE
CONSTRUCTION PHASE YOU KNOW WHAT
IF YOU'RE AT A LOCATION WHERE
THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
HANDLING RECYCLE.
WHAT DO YOU DO?
AND DONATION IS AN OPTION.
BE OPEN TO INNOVATION AND
TECHNOLOGY.
>> GREAT POINTS.
THAT IS THE END OF THE PANEL
PRESENTATION.
BEFORE WE JUMP INTO A FEW
QUESTIONS, I JUST WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU TO KURT AND DOUGLAS
AND WAYNE FOR YOUR TIME TODAY
AND YOUR EXPERTISE IN DISCUSSING
THESE.
I EVEN LEARNED A FEW THINGS SO I
APPRECIATE THAT ALONG THE WAY.
>> JENNA, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY
TO TACKLE SOME OF THESE
QUESTIONS WE'RE GETTING?
>> I'VE BEEN PLACING SOME INTO
THE TEAM CHAT SO ALL THE
PRESENTERS CAN SEE WHAT'S COME
IN.
I CAN JUST START READING SOME
OUT LOUD IF YOU'D LIKE.
>> UM, SURE.
>> I HAVE QUITE A FEW.
IF YOU SEE ONE THAT STANDS OUT
YOU WANT TO ANSWER --
>> THERE WAS ONE I SAW POP UP
DURING THE PRESENTATION ABOUT
THE GSA WHEN IS GSA USING THE
PRINCIPLES THAT ALIGN?
I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF US WORK
FOR THE GSA AND DON'T WANT TO
SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THE GSA
PUBLISHES A REPORT EVERY FOUR
YEARS THAT UPDATES THEIR
RECOMMENDATIONS ON BEST
PRACTICES AND THE LAST TIME WAS
IN 2019 AND I HAVE A COPY OF
THAT AND MY WEBSITE IF ANYONE IS
INTERESTED IN FINDING THAT.
AND IS THERE DISCUSSION TO MAKE
IT A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT FOR
LEED CERTIFICATION TO INCLUDE
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
STATIONS REGARDING INCREASING
THE PROCUREMENT OF THE VEHICLE
FLEETS.
>> ELECTRIC VEHICLES IS IN LEED
IN THE ENERGY PART AND IT WOULD
HAVE TO BE AGENCY SPECIFIC
POLICY AND MANDATE AS THERE WAS
A DESIGN BULLETIN FOR ELECTRIC
VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE RECENTLY
IN FEBRUARY, I THINK IT WAS.
>> KURT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO
ADD?
>> ON THE DOE SIDE THINGS ARE
CHANGING FAST INCLUDING A BIG
PUSH TO GET AS MANY ELECTRIC
VEHICLES OUT THERE AS WE CAN AND
NO ONE WANTS EXTENSION CORDS
ACROSS THE PARKING LOTS SO WE'RE
SCAM -- SCRAMBLING TO GET THEM
INSTALLED AND THERE COULD BE
CONTAMINATION IN THE GROUND AND
IT BECOMES MORE EXPENSIVE AND
THERE'S ISSUES.
WHAT YOU THINK IS PRETTY CHEAP
IN YOUR GARAGE OR A NEW
BUILDING, CAN BE EXPENSIVE ON
SOME SITES THAT MAYBE AREN'T
READY AND LOOKING AT CHARGERS
LIKE OUT IN NEVADA AS A WAY TO
NOT HAVE PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
STY -- STAY TUNED.
WE'RE GETTING PUSHED TO DO MORE
WITH EVs.
>> AWESOME.
THAT'S GREAT STUFF FROM BOTH OF
YOU.
KURT, THERE'S A QUESTION
SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU.
HAS THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR
CONSIDERED ABANDONING SOME PARTS
IN AREAS BEING OVER TAKEN BY
CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUES?
>> GOOD QUESTION.
DEPENDING ON THE LEGISLATION OF
THE PARK, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS
WE CAN AND CANNOT DO AND IF
POSSIBLE, YES, THAT'S BEING
CONSIDERED ON MOVING AND
ABANDONING CERTAIN AREAS.
>> THERE'S A QUESTION HERE ABOUT
ASKING A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION
ABOUT THE GREEN AWARDS AND WHAT
THOSE ENTAIL.
WHOEVER MENTIONED THAT DURING
THE PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
>> I DID THAT.
SO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY PUTS
OUT SUSTAINABILITY AWARDS AND WE
DOVETAIL TO DO THEM FOR NNSA.
I BELIEVE THE FEDERAL MANAGEMENT
PROGRAM DOES IT GOVERNMENT WIDE.
IT'S PART OF THE ENERGY EXCHANGE
EVERY YEAR.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PARTICIPATE BUT THERE'S A LOT OF
CATEGORIES SUCH AS LIFE TIME
ACHIEVEMENT AWARD, BEST PROJECT,
BEST PROJECT TEAM.
THERE'S GREEN BIO AWARDS, HOW
MANY SITES HAVE BEEN BUYING MOST
GREEN PRODUCTS AND MULTIPLE
CATEGORIES FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
IT CAN GET CONVOLUTED BUT
THEY'RE SO EXCITED TO GET
REQUIRED.
I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
>> YEP.
>> GO AHEAD, DOUGLAS.
>> IF WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE
THERE'S MORE ABOUT THE NEONATE
BUILDING AND THE CONSIDERATION
OF ARTWORK WAS MENTIONED AND DO
THESE EFFORTS CONTRIBUTE TO THE
LEED CATEGORY AND IT WOULD NOT
BE A SPECIFIC CATEGORY BUT
POTENTIALLY FAIL INNOVATION
CREDIT LIKE EDUCATION DOES.
IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT PART
INTO THE EDUCATIONAL SESSION
YOU'D GET ONE POINT FOR
INNOVATION.
>> GREAT, THANKS, DOUGLAS.
IF I CAN CLOSE OUT WITH ONE MORE
QUESTION ASKED TO CLARIFY.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT LEED
CERTIFICATIONS FOR PEOPLE OR
PROJECTS.
AS A REFERENCE ACROSS THE BOARD
FOR ANY GREEN BUILDING
CERTIFICATION, YOU'RE PURSUING A
CERTIFICATION FOR A PROJECT OR
BUILDING IF YOU SEE A LEED A.P.
AND THEY THEMSELVES AREN'T
NECESSARY CERTIFIED THEY'RE
SHOWCASING THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED
A LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE AND
FAMILIARITY WITH THAT PARTICULAR
CREDIT SYSTEM OR GREEN BUILDING
CERTIFICATION TO ENSURE
CERTIFICATION AND I THINK WE'RE
A FEW MINUTES OVER BUT WANTED TO
SAY THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR
TUNING IN.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
I CAN CLOSE IT OUT HERE FOR US.
SO THANK YOU TO ALL THE
PRESENTERS AND MODERATORS THAT
JOINED US TODAY AND CAN'T FORGET
TO THANK THE AUDIENCE FOR
SUBMITTING YOUR ENGAGING
QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE DAY,
APOLOGIES WE COULDN'T GET TO ALL
OF THEM BUT WE HOPE THE TOPICS
AND SPEAKERS TODAY HAVE EDUCATED
YOU OR INSPIRED TO TAKE ACTION
WITHIN YOUR PROGRAM OR AGENCY OR
MAYBE YOU IDENTIFIED A NEW
CONTACT TO START COLLABORATING
DAY AND WE HAVE TWO MORE DAYS OF
FOCUS STAINSABILITY WEBINARS AND
WE'LL BE BACK HERE FOR ANOTHER
GREAT SET OF SESSIONS AND
SPEAKERS AND AGAIN ON THURSDAY
AS WELL.
SO THANKS, EVERYONE FOR JOINING
US TODAY.