1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,080 >>I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,040 TO THE 14th MEET OF THE BRAIN 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:14,600 NEUROETHICS OR NEWG. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,520 I WANT TO ESPECIALLY EXTEND A 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,560 WARM WELCOME TO OUR WORKING 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,920 GROUP CO-CHAIRS, HANK GREELEY 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:22,680 AND CHRISTINE GRADY AS WELL AS 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,440 OUR INVITED SPEAKERS AND 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,880 PANELISTS WHO ARE JOINING US 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,320 TODAY. 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,120 SO, MY NAME IS ANDREA 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,360 BECKEL-MITCHENER AND THE DEPUTY 13 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,560 DIRECTOR AS THE BRAIN INITIATIVE 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,480 AND THE DESIGNATED FEDERAL 15 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:35,560 OFFICIAL FOR TODAY'S MEETING. 16 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,000 AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE 17 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,720 NEUROETHICS IS NOT A FORMAL 18 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,040 ADVISORY GROUP LIKE THE BRAIN 19 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,800 MULTI COUNCIL WORKING GROUP, THE 20 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,920 NEWG IS A WORKING GROUP OF THE 21 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,440 ADVISORY COUNCILS OF THE NIH 22 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,520 INSTITUTES THAT PARTICIPATE IN 23 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,600 THE BRAIN INITIATIVE AND WAS 24 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,240 ESTABLISHED BECAUSE OF THE NEED 25 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,640 FOR IN PUT ON NEUROETHICS 26 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,040 RELATED TO RESEARCH SUPPORTED 27 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,040 THROUGH THE BRAIN INITIATIVE. 28 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,760 THE NEWG DELIBERATE S PROVIDINGE 29 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,400 INPUT AND SUGGESTING POINTS TO 30 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,400 CONSIDER THROUGH AN ETHICS 31 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:08,800 FRAME. 32 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,320 SO, ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE A ZOOM 33 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,560 MEETING AND A SOMEWHAT ABRIDGE 34 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,840 DAY CONTINUED OUR NEED TO HOLD 35 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,520 THIS MEETING VIRTUAL FOR THE 36 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:16,040 TIME BEING. 37 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,040 WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERESTING 38 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,240 THINGS TO COVER. 39 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,360 TODAY WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE FROM 40 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,280 OUR BRAIN DIRECTOR ON THE NIH 41 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,320 BRAIN INITIATIVE, A NEW MEMBER 42 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:27,680 PRESENTATION AND OVERVIEW OF 43 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,320 EMERGING ETHICS THEMES FROM THE 44 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:29,920 LATEST FISCAL YEAR OF BRAIN 45 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,120 AWARDS AND A BRIEF RECAP OF THE 46 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,960 NEWG WORKSHOP HELD EARLIER THIS 47 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:36,880 YEAR, ON THE OBLIGATIONS AND 48 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,320 RESPONSIBILITIES TO PATIENTS 49 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:39,480 FOLLOWING THEIR PARTICIPATION IN 50 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,400 AND CONTRIBUTION TO A RESEARCH 51 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:42,760 TRIAL. 52 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,800 AND FINALLY, AS USUAL, WE'LL GO 53 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,720 AROUND THE VIRTUAL TABLE AND 54 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,120 HEAR UPDATES FROM THE NEWG 55 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,040 MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY HAS 56 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,880 BEEN UP TO IN THE NEUROETHICS 57 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,080 SPACE. 58 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,160 WE HAVE ONE NEWG MEMBER SERVING 59 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,400 THEIR FINAL MEETING TODAY, A NEW 60 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,000 LEADERSHIP TRANSITION AND ONE 61 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 NEW MEMBERS JOINING THE GROUP 62 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,520 AND JOHN WILL DESCRIBE THESE 63 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,560 TRANSITIONS IN A FEW MINUTES. 64 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,560 JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING THINGS. 65 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,440 AS A REMINDER THIS IS THE OPEN 66 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,720 SESSION OF THE MEETING AND IT'S 67 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,600 BEING VIDEO CAST LIVE IN THE 68 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,760 PUBLIC DOMAIN AND THE RECORDING 69 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,040 WILL BE ARCHIVED FOR LATER 70 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,560 VIEWING ON THE NIH AND THE BRAIN 71 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,600 WEB SITES. 72 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,600 DURING PRESENTATIONS, WE ASK 73 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,840 THAT YOU MUTE YOUR LINE AND TURN 74 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,640 OFF YOUR VIDEO WHEN NOT 75 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:25,040 SPEAKING, WHICH MINIMIZES THE 76 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,120 BACKGROUND DISTRACTIONS. 77 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,560 DURING DISCUSSIONS, PLEASE TURN 78 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,080 ON YOUR VIDEO AND USE THE RAISED 79 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,280 HAND OPTION IF YOU HAVE A 80 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,200 QUESTIONS AND WE'LL CALL ON YOU 81 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,560 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. 82 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,720 FOR QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO 83 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,000 RAISE IN THE GROUP FOR GENERAL 84 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,120 DISCUSSION, WE NEED YOU TO OPT 85 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,000 FOR THIS RAISE-HAND FEATURE 86 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:42,880 RATHER THAN TYPING THE QUESTION 87 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,800 IN OUR ZOOM SO OUR VIDEO CAST 88 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,120 ATTEND'S CAN HEAR AND SEE THE 89 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:47,400 QUESTIONS. 90 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,760 WE KNOW EVERYBODY IS BUSY AND WE 91 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,040 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR 92 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,000 VALUABLE INPUT TODAY. 93 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,760 NONE OF THIS CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT 94 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,880 THE REALLY FABULOUS TEAM WE HAVE 95 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,480 HERE AT NINDS AND I WANT TO 96 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,160 THANK Dr. NINA HSU FOR THIS 97 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,040 WORKING GROUP AND Dr. SASS KA 98 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,600 HENDRICKS, Dr. DUE PRAY FOR 99 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,600 HIS SUPPORT IN NEUROETHICS AND 100 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,800 THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT 101 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,240 NEUROETHICS PLAYS IN THE BRAIN 102 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:12,640 INITIATIVE. 103 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:14,200 SO I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO 104 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,040 THE CO-CHAIRS, CHRISTINE AND 105 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,520 HANK, WHO CAN INTRODUCE JOHN AND 106 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,400 CHAIR THE REMAINDER OF THE 107 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:21,600 MEETING. 108 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,200 >> GREAT. 109 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,320 THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANDREA. 110 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,320 WELCOME TO EVERYBODY AND I 111 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,960 REITERATE WHAT ANDREA SAID 112 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,120 THANKING YOU ALL FOR JOINING US 113 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,720 AND SPENDING THE TIME ENGAGING 114 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,120 IN THIS IMPORTANT WORKING GROUP. 115 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,320 IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOUR FACES. 116 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,840 I WISH I COULD SEE YOU 117 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:44,560 IN-PERSON, BUT HERE WE ARE. 118 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:44,800 HANK -- 119 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,360 >> YOU ARE MUTED. 120 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,360 FIRST TIME THIS WEEK I HAVE 121 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,680 MANAGED TO MESS THAT UP. 122 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,240 MAYBE THE FIRST TIME THIS MONTH. 123 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,280 YOU THINK TWO AND A HALF YEARS 124 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,360 INTO THE PANDEMIC I WOULD HAVE 125 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,720 FIGURED THIS OUT. 126 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,600 ANYWAY, I JOIN CHRISTINE IN 127 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,480 WELCOMING AND I THINK I WILL 128 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,840 TURN THINGS OVER TO OUR BRAIN 129 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,000 DIRECTOR, JOHN NGAI. 130 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,840 >> WONDERFULLY SUCCINCT. 131 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,120 THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND 132 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,080 I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND 133 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,720 EFFORT AND DEDICATION TO OUR 134 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:10,960 MISSION. 135 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,280 AND ALSO AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO ECHO 136 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,160 ANDREA'S THANKS TO THE STAFF 137 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,240 THAT MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN. 138 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,320 I JUST HAVE A FEW BRIEF UPDATES 139 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:19,840 TO GIVE. 140 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:26,560 LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE MY 141 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:26,760 SLIDE. 142 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,480 ARE WE SEEING THE CORRECT SLIDE 143 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,120 HERE? 144 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,600 GREAT, WELL, I WILL START WITH A 145 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,800 HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR CO-CHAIR 146 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,040 Dr. HANK GREELEY FOR HIS 147 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,280 SERVICE. 148 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:41,920 HANK, YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH 149 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,800 BRAIN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING I 150 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,200 BELIEVE, 2014. 151 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,360 IF WE HAD TERMS FOR SERVICE, IT 152 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,920 WOULD BE TWO TERMS BUT OF COURSE 153 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,520 WHEN YOU ARE APPOINTED IT WAS AN 154 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,520 INDINDEFINITE SENTENCE. 155 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,400 WE'RE LETTING YOU OUT FOR GOOD 156 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,360 BEHAVIOUR AND WE'LL MISS YOU. 157 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,960 I KNOW WHERE TO FIND YOU AND 158 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,320 DON'T BE TOO PRICE SURPRISED IF 159 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,440 SOMEONE TALKS WITH YOUR DOOR AT 160 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,000 THE FARM WITH A BOTTLE TO 161 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,920 CELEBRATE IN-PERSON. 162 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,440 WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WISE 163 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,480 COUNCIL, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO 164 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,520 TAKE ON TOUGH ISSUES WITH US AND 165 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,720 SPEND TIME WITH US TO HELP US 166 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,120 MAKE BRAIN A BETTER ENTERPRISE. 167 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:18,680 THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. 168 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,280 >> IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE 169 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:27,000 AND PRIVILEGE HANK IS CO-CHAIR 170 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,560 AND A NEWG MEMBER AFTER THIS 171 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,920 MEETING. 172 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,280 AND SO, I CHECKED MY NOTES, YOU 173 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:36,040 DID AGREE TO SERVE AS CO-CHAIR 174 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,440 FOR ANOTHER YEAR. 175 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,200 >> THAT WOULD BE AWKWARD IF I 176 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,440 HADN'T BUT YES, I DID. 177 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,520 >> WELL, WE HAVE A TRADITION OF 178 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,840 CORNERING PEOPLE LIVE. 179 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:48,840 BUT YEAH, SO, WE ARE WELCOMING 180 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,880 NITA AS NEW CO-CHAIR. 181 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,320 YOU'VE BEEN ON THE NEWG FOR 182 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:53,920 QUITE A FEW YEARS. 183 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,520 SHE HAS A REALLY DISTINGUISHED 184 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,440 VERY WELL-EARNED REPUTATION AND 185 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,600 DISTINGUISHED RECORD IN THE AREA 186 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,160 OF BIOETHICS AND HER CREDENTIALS 187 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,200 CAN YOU SEE HERE. 188 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,160 BUT SHE'S BEEN A GREAT WISDOM, 189 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,440 COUNCIL AND DEDICATE THE EFFORT 190 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,640 LIFTING US ALL. 191 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,280 WE STRIVE TO BE BETTER BECAUSE 192 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:20,040 FOLKS LIKE NITA ARE PUSHING US 193 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,240 TO DO THAT. 194 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,560 I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH 195 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,200 YOU AS CO-CHAIR AS I HAVE 196 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,120 ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU OVER 197 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,600 THE PAST FEW YEARS. 198 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,680 WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING 199 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,800 THIS ON AND WE'LL TRY NOT TO 200 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,720 HAVE THIS ARE AN INDEFINITE 201 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,400 SENTENCE AS WELL. 202 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,640 WE'RE LEARNING OUR LESSONS 203 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:33,840 THERE. 204 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:35,240 >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, 205 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:35,920 THANK YOU. 206 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,560 >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT 207 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,640 NITA IS LEAVING THE NINDS 208 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,200 COUNCIL AND HANK WILL JOIN THE 209 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,360 NINDS COUNCIL SO IT'S A 210 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:49,720 REVOLVING DOOR. 211 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,240 >> WE'RE TRADING PLACES. 212 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,240 >> AND THERE ARE NO PLAYERS TO 213 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,480 BE NAMED LATER. 214 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,160 IT'S AN EVEN TRADE. 215 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,720 WE VALUE BOTH EQUALLY. 216 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:05,880 SO, THAT IS ONE DEPARTURE AND 217 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:06,720 ONE WELCOME. 218 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,760 I'M DELIGHTED TO WELCOME 219 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,840 CAROLINE MONTOJO AS A NEW 220 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,200 MEMBER. 221 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,440 SHE'S TAKEN ON THE PRESIDENCY 222 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,400 AND SHE SERVES AS C.E.O. OF THE 223 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,920 DANA FOUNDATION AND SHE'S BEEN 224 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,080 RESPONSIBLE FOR A IMPORTANT 225 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,040 SHIFT IN THE DATA'S EMPHASIS ON 226 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,840 NEUROSCIENCE WITHIN SOCIETY. 227 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,840 HER NAME, FACE OR WORK HAS 228 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,880 PROBABLY NOT A STRANGER TO ANY 229 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,400 OF US HERE. 230 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,560 SHE WAS PREVIOUSLY DIRECTOR OF 231 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,240 LIFE SCIENCES AND THE DIRECTOR 232 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,320 OF BRAIN INITIATIVES AT THE 233 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,200 KAVLI FOUNDATION AND SHE'S AN 234 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,240 ACTIVE VOICE AND FORCE WITHIN 235 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,920 THE BRAIN INITIATIVE AS ONE OF 236 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,360 OUR PARTNERS, BUT ALSO IN THE 237 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,240 SPACE OF NEUROETHICS AND THE 238 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,760 ETHICAL LEGAL SOCIETY 239 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,640 IMPLICATIONS OF ALL WE DO. 240 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,560 WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE CAROLINE 241 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,720 COME ON FORMALLY. 242 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,880 IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK 243 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,120 TOGETHER IN THIS CAPACITY. 244 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,120 WE'VE SET ASIDE TIME FOR HER TO 245 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,560 TELL US A BIT WHAT SHE'S DOING 246 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,880 AND HOW SHE ENVISIONS THE 247 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:02,440 FUTURE. 248 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,280 WELCOME, WE'RE REALLY DELIGHTED 249 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,600 TO HAVE YOU. 250 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,880 THANK YOU FOR AGREEING TO SERVE. 251 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,320 >>> SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A 252 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,160 BRIEF UPDATE AND I THINK WE'LL 253 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,880 GET INTO THIS LATER ABOUT A FEW 254 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,120 EVENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE 255 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,040 WE LAST MET IN THE NEUROETHICS 256 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,360 AND RELATED SPACE. 257 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,200 WE HAD A NEWG WORKSHOP ON 258 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,160 CONTINUING TRIAL 259 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:23,760 RESPONSIBILITIES IN MAY. 260 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,600 IT WAS A TWO-DAY PUBLIC 261 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:25,840 WORKSHOP. 262 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,440 IT WAS FOCUSED ON THE 263 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,160 RESEARCH-RELATED CARE 264 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,960 REQUIREMENTS SO IT'S MORE THAN 265 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,160 REQUIREMENTS FOR PARTICIPANTS 266 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,480 WHO ARE IN THESE CLINICAL TRIALS 267 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,200 INVOLVING PRIMARILY THE 268 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,280 IMPLANTABLE DEVICES, INVASIVE 269 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,920 DEVICES. 270 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,960 SO, IT REALLY IS A ISSUE OF 271 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,360 CONCERN. 272 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,880 WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THESE 273 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,080 ISSUES, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER 274 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,480 OF WHAT HAPPENS A YEAR OR TWO 275 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,240 AFTER A TRIAL ENDS, BUT WHAT WE 276 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,360 LEARNED FROM SOME OF THE 277 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,720 PARTICIPANTS WHO WERE PATIENTS 278 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,680 THEMSELVES, WE WERE TALKING 279 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:54,520 ABOUT DECADES. 280 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,200 AND SO, WHAT ARE THE 281 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,280 RESPONSIBILITIES, WHAT ARE THE 282 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,040 NEEDS, WHO IS GOING TO TAKE ON 283 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,480 THE POSSIBILITIES FOR THESE 284 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,040 VITAL PARTNERS IN THESE EFFORTS 285 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,800 WHO HAVE LITERALLY GIVEN PARTS 286 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,960 OF THEIR LIVES TO FURTHERING THE 287 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,000 SCIENCE AND SEEKING BETTER 288 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,480 CURES, BETTER TREATMENTS. 289 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,920 OF COURSE, WE'RE CONSTRAINED BY 290 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,120 LOTS OF THINGS, INCLUDING 291 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,520 LEGALITIES OF WHAT WE CAN OR 292 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,720 CAN'T DO AND WE HAD STAKEHOLDERS 293 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,720 FROM THE DIFFERENT SECTORS FROM 294 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,360 GOVERNMENT SIDE AND 295 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,560 INVESTIGATORS, THE INSTITUTIONS, 296 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,600 THE HOSPITALS AND UNIVERSITIES, 297 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,640 DEVICE MANUFACTURERS, INSURANCE 298 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,200 COMPANIES, CMS AND WHAT HAVE YOU 299 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,800 AND WE'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE A 300 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,920 WAY TO INSURE THAT THE FOLKS WHO 301 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,920 ARE WILLING TO BE OUR HUMAN 302 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,400 PARTNERS IN THE RESEARCH 303 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,200 ACTUALLY ARE PROPERLY TAKEN CARE 304 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,880 OF GIVEN THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE 305 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,280 PROJECTS. 306 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,160 SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN 307 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,360 ONGOING SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS 308 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,400 BUT THIS WORKSHOP WAS REALLY 309 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,320 VERY, VERY HELP TO HAVE US, I 310 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,480 THINK TO ALL INVOLVED TO 311 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,560 IDENTIFY THE AREAS AND JUST SEE 312 00:09:57,560 --> 00:10:00,800 WHO, WHAT WILL IT TAKE IN TERMS 313 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,200 OF PARTNERSHIP AMONG ALL 314 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:05,800 STAKEHOLDERS BEV TO HAVE A 315 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,000 BETTER SET OF OUTCOMES. 316 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:07,760 THAT WAS IN MAY. 317 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,280 IN JUNE WE HAD THE EIGHTH ANNUAL 318 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,440 BRAIN INITIATIVE MEETING THAT 319 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:10,960 WAS GREAT. 320 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,600 WE WERE HOPING TO HOLD THIS 321 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,840 MEETING AS A HYBRID EVENT, BUT 322 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,920 THE LOCAL COVID RATES PRECLUDED 323 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,120 US FROM DOING SO BECAUSE WE 324 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,120 COULDN'T HAVE FIT ALL THE PEOPLE 325 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,960 WHO SIGNED UP INTO THE SPACE WE 326 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,360 HAVE RESERVED. 327 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,320 SO WE PIVOTED TO A VIRTUAL FORM 328 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,640 A IT WAS A GREAT MEETING IN 329 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:33,560 TERMS OF CONTENT AND 330 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:34,120 INTERACTIONS THERE. 331 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,400 IT WAS NOT A INSIGNIFICANT PART 332 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,840 OF THIS MEETING WAS DEDICATED TO 333 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:40,840 DISCUSSION OF NEUROETHICS 334 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,640 ISSUES, INCLUDING THE IMPORTANCE 335 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,600 AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF 336 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,760 EXPANDING A HUMAN NEURO IMAGES 337 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,400 STUDIES TO MORE DIVERSE PATIENT 338 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 POPULATIONS AND THE PITFALLS OF 339 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:53,840 DOING SO. 340 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,520 THE ISSUES ABOUT AGENCY 341 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,800 RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCESS TO 342 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,880 NEUROTECHNOLOGY AND ISSUES ABOUT 343 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,320 PRIVACY AND OTHER BEST 344 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:02,560 PRACTISES. 345 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:04,680 THIS IS ALL ON THE WEB IF YOU GO 346 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:07,160 TO THAT LINK AT BOTTOM THERE, 347 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,680 YOU CAN SIGN UP AND VIEW ALL THE 348 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:12,080 CONTENT OF THESE ISSUES AS WELL 349 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,600 AS THE PLENARIES AND ALL THE 350 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,880 OTHER TALKS AND WE'LL HAVE 351 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,080 ACCESS TO THAT MATERIAL THROUGH 352 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,040 JUNE OF 2023. 353 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,680 THERE WERE ALSO TWO 354 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:23,240 CONGRESSIONAL BRIEFINGS THAT 355 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,200 WERE FACILITATED BY THE AMERICAN 356 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,760 BRAIN COALITION WITH A 357 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,840 CONGRESSIONAL NEUROSCIENCE 358 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:29,080 CAUCUS. 359 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,800 THIS FIRST ONE WAS BACK IN MARCH 360 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,720 OF 2022 THAT WAS CO-HOSTED BY 361 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,480 THE ABC AS WELL AS THE BRAIN 362 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,920 DONOR PROJECT AND WE TALKED 363 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,120 ABOUT BRAIN DONATION IN THE 364 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,520 RESEARCH THAT WE DO AND THE 365 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,280 IMPORTANCE OF THIS FOR TREATING 366 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:49,480 AND EVENTUALLY CURING HUMAN 367 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,720 BRAIN DISEASE AND DISORDERS. 368 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,000 THERE WAS A FAMILY MEMBER WHOSE 369 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,280 HUSBAND, THEY DONATED HER 370 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,400 HUSBAND'S BRAIN FOR RESEARCH AND 371 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,720 OF COURSE, THE MODERATOR WAS 372 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Ms. TISH HEVEL AND WE COVERED 373 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,960 HAVING DIVERSE REPRESENTATION IN 374 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,520 THESE BRAIN DONOR BANKS SO WE 375 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,720 CAN ACTUALLY GET BETTER 376 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,400 INFORMATION THAT WILL HELP 377 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,800 EVERYBODY WE WISH TO HELP 378 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,840 THROUGHOUT SOCIETY AND THE 379 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,280 REALIZATION THAT FOLKS IN THE 380 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,520 FAMILIES WHO DONATE THEIR LOVED 381 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,560 ONES' BRAINS FOR RESEARCH, ARE 382 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,080 REALLY GIVING US A GREAT GIFT 383 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,600 AND THAT'S NOT TO BE UNDER 384 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:29,640 APPRECIATED BY ANYONE. 385 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,560 SO THAT WAS ONE, A CONGRESSIONAL 386 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:33,040 BRIEFING. 387 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,120 THE OTHER, AGAIN, WAS SPONSORED 388 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,960 BY THE AMERICAN BRAIN COALITION 389 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,160 AND THE DANA FOUNDATION AS WELL 390 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,840 AS OTHERS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF 391 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,720 NEUROETHICS. 392 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,160 AGAIN, IT WAS REALLY COVERING 393 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,920 SOME VERY, VERY IMPORTANT 394 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:52,480 GROUND. 395 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,600 FEATURE PANELISTS WERE Dr. 396 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,200 FINS FROM CORNELL WHO TALKS 397 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,840 ABOUT STIMULATION IN TRAUMATIC 398 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,680 BRAIN INJURY PATIENTS AND THEIR 399 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:08,520 RECOVERIES AND RAISED SOME 400 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,520 INTERESTING NEUROETHICS ISSUES. 401 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,240 I TOOK AWAY THE TENSION BETWEEN 402 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,800 WHAT THE PATIENT WANTS AND WHAT 403 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,000 THE FAMILIES WANT ARE NOT 404 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,560 NECESSARILY ALWAYS ALIGNED AND 405 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:19,840 THIS HAS TO DO WITH ISSUES OF 406 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,400 AGENCY AND AUTONOMY. 407 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,120 THAT WAS QUITE INTERESTING. 408 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,560 AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER SET OF 409 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:31,960 ANNALISTS, Dr. JAYATRI DAS AND 410 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Dr. CLAIRE WEICHESBAUM AND 411 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,080 HIGHLIGHTED THE IMPORTANCE OF 412 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:42,440 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN NAVIGATING 413 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,880 THESE TRICKY NEUROETHICS ISSUES 414 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,200 AND POST TRIAL RESPONSIBILITIES 415 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,800 BUT AGENCY AUTONOMY AND IN FACT, 416 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,600 ONE OF THE NINE CORE GUIDING 417 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,840 PRINCIPLES THAT I THINK THIS 418 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,800 GROUP WORKED ON, IS PUBLIC 419 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:06,440 ENGAGEMENT SO IT WAS A GOOD TO 420 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,280 HELP NAVIGATE THESE ETHICAL 421 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,280 LEGAL VOCATIONS IN A WAY THAT 422 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,600 SOCIETY WILL ULTIMATELY ACCEPT. 423 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,120 WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE FLOOR 424 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,160 OVER TO OUR CO-CHAIRS. 425 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,480 >> THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR THAT 426 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:32,000 GREAT INTRODUCTION AND UPDATE. 427 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,000 IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO WELCOME 428 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,080 CAROLINE MONTOJO. 429 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,840 THE PRESIDENT AND C.E.O. OF THE 430 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,120 DANA FOUNDATION WHICH IS A 431 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,680 PRIVATE PHILANTHROPIC 432 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,880 ORGANIZATION TO ADVANCING 433 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,800 UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE BRAIN. 434 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,680 SHE LEADS THE FOUNDATION, WHICH 435 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,640 FOCUSES ON NEUROSCIENCE WITHIN 436 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,240 OWE SOCIETY AND HOW NEUROSCIENCE 437 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,120 REFLECTS AND INFORMS SOCIETY. 438 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,120 SHE'S BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN 439 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,280 SEVERAL LARGE-SCALE NEUROSCIENCE 440 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,680 INITIATIVES INCLUDING THE U.S. 441 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,960 BRAIN INITIATIVE, AND THE 442 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,240 INTERNATIONAL BRAIN INITIATIVE, 443 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,000 AND SHE CONTRIBUTES TO 444 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,440 PUBLICATIONS ON INTERNATIONAL 445 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,800 NEUROSCIENCE AND NEUROETHICS IN 446 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,320 A NUMBER OF FLORA AND SHE'S DID 447 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,000 SHER ARE HER POSTDOC ORAL 448 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,240 RESEARCH AT UCLA WHERE SHE 449 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,280 FOCUSED ON INVESTIGATING NEURO 450 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,600 BIOMARKERS FOR PSYCHIATRIC 451 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,680 ILLNESS USING FUNCTIONAL MRI AND 452 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,520 BEHAVIOURAL TECHNIQUES AND SHE 453 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,600 RECEIVED EAR B.A. FROM UC 454 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,920 BERKELEY AND A MASTERS AND PH.D 455 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,640 AT JOHN HOPKINS UNIVERSITY. 456 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,200 AND I CAN'T RESIST NOTING, ONE 457 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,720 INDICATION OF HOW TALENTED AND 458 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,080 SMART CAROLINE IS, IS THAT SHE 459 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:43,240 SUCCESSFULLY RECRUITED CARA 460 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,560 RAMOS TO BE HER V.P. 461 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,600 WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR 462 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,440 JOINING US. 463 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:52,320 IT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE YOU 464 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:52,520 HERE. 465 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,480 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT 466 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,880 INTRODUCTION AND THANK YOU JOHN 467 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:55,840 AND HANK AS WELL. 468 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,120 ALSO, THANKS TO THE ENTIRE NIH 469 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,360 BRAIN INITIATIVE NEUROETHICS 470 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,440 WORKING GROUP. 471 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,800 IT'S SO EXCITING. 472 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,520 IT'S A DELIGHT AND REALLY 473 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,080 HUMBLING TO BE JOINING THE NEW, 474 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,720 ESPECIALLY SINCE MY LEARNINGS 475 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,880 ABOUT NEUROETHICS FROM THE NEWG 476 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,600 HAVE BEEN QUITE INFLUENTIAL IN 477 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,200 MY THINKING OVER THESE YEARS. 478 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,240 CHRISTINE, WE ARE DELIGHTED TO 479 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,000 HAVE CARA RAMOS AT THE DANA 480 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,320 FOUNDATION SO I THANK THE NEWG 481 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,680 FOR HAVING HER JOIN US AND 482 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,120 CONTRIBUTING TO OUR STRATEGIC 483 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:29,920 DEVELOPMENT HERE WHICH YOU WILL 484 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:39,760 HEAR ABOUT TODAY. 485 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,960 I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SLIDES. 486 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,640 SO, LET ME JUST -- I'LL GO BACK 487 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,680 TO THE BEGINNING. 488 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,840 SO, FOR TODAY, I'LL SHARE A 489 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:57,520 LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF, MY 490 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,560 ENTRY INTO THE NEUROETHICS AREA 491 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,400 THROUGH SCIENCE PHILANTHROPY AND 492 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,400 SO, FIRST UP, I'LL SHARE A 493 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,720 LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND 494 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,480 AS CHRISTINE HAD MENTIONED. 495 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,720 MY NAME IS CAROLINE MONTOJO AND 496 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,720 I'M PRESIDENT AND C.E.O. OF THE 497 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,240 DANA FOUNDATION, WHICH IS A 498 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,920 PRIVATE PHILANTHROPIC 499 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,400 ORGANIZATION BASED IN NEW YORK 500 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,000 CITY THAT WAS FOUNDED IN 1950 BY 501 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,920 CHARLES A. DANA. 502 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,280 HE WAS A LEGISLATURE, 503 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,440 INDUSTRIALIST AND 504 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:26,000 PHILANTHROPIST. 505 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,480 THE DANA FOUNDATION HAS A 506 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,040 HISTORY IN THE 1950s THROUGH 507 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,080 1990s OF FOCUSING ON EDUCATION 508 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,000 AND TRAINING AT SMALL 509 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,520 INDEPENDENT COLLEGES, SUPPORTING 510 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,440 DIVERSITY IN ACADEMIC 511 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,720 INSTITUTIONS AND FUNDING HEALTH 512 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,160 PRIMARILY THROUGH CANCER 513 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,400 RESEARCH. 514 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,400 AND THEN IN THE 1990s, THE 515 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,760 FOUNDATION FOCUSED ITS 516 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,080 PHILANTHROPY ENTIRELY ON 517 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,240 NEUROSCIENCE RESEARCH AND 518 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,040 OUTREACH WITH THE SIGNATURE 519 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,720 PROGRAMME BEING BRAIN AWARENESS 520 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,720 WEEK, WHICH MANY OF OF YOU ARE 521 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,360 WELL FAMILIAR WITH TO FOSTER 522 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,400 ENTHUSIASM AND SUPPORT FOR BRAIN 523 00:17:59,400 --> 00:17:59,720 SCIENCE. 524 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,040 AND AS CHRISTINE MENTIONED, JUST 525 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,600 LAST YEAR, THE FOUNDATION 526 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,960 ENTERED INTO A NEW CHAPTER IN 527 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,600 ITS HISTORY FOCUSING ON THE 528 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,680 INTERSECTION OF NEUROSCIENCE AND 529 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,000 SOCIETY. 530 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,280 AND SO, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, OUR 531 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,760 NEW MISSION IS TO ADVANCE 532 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,960 NEUROSCIENCE THAT BENEFITS 533 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,720 SOCIETY AND REFLECTS THE 534 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,200 ASPIRATIONS OF ALL PEOPLE. 535 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,920 I ALSO AM HAPPY TO SHARE JUST AS 536 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,000 OF LAST YEAR, THE DANA 537 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,000 FOUNDATION JOINED THE BRAIN 538 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,160 INITIATIVE ALLIANCE, WHOSE 539 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,040 MISSION IS TO COORDINATE AND 540 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,320 FACILITATE COMMUNICATIONS FROM 541 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:37,160 ITS MEMBERS RELATED TO THE BRAIN 542 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,200 INITIATIVE. 543 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,000 TODAY JOHN AND NITA ASKED ME TO 544 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,360 SHARE ABOUT THE NEUROETHICS WORK 545 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,400 I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN AND 546 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,320 PROVIDE A INTRODUCTION TO THE 547 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,840 DANA FOUNDATION'S NEW MISSION IN 548 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,400 NEUROSCIENCE AND I WILL FOCUS ON 549 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,960 THE DANA FOUNDATION IN THE 550 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,160 LATTER PART OF MY REMARKS. 551 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,080 >> AM I ADVANCING FOR YOU? 552 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,480 >> OK. 553 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,600 >> SO HERE IS THE OUTLINE OF THE 554 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,400 TALK THAT I'LL GIVE TODAY. 555 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,280 FIRST, I'M GOING TO SHARE ABOUT 556 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,240 HOW I GREW AN INTEREST IN 557 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:15,520 NEUROETHICS. 558 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,600 THIS IS LARGELY INSPIRED BY HOW 559 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,520 THE LARGE-SCALE BRAIN 560 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,120 INITIATIVES, AROUND THE WORLD, 561 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:23,840 HIGHLIGHTED THE IMPORTANCE OF 562 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,160 ETHICAL AND SOCIETAL 563 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 CONSIDERATIONS IN NEUROSCIENCE. 564 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,160 AND THEN, FROM THAT WORK WITH 565 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,560 THE BRAIN INITIATIVES, IT 566 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,600 STARTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE 567 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,240 ARE MANY FACETS TO THIS NEED TO 568 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,200 ADDRESS ETHICAL, LEGAL AND 569 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,080 SOCIETAL ISSUES IN NEUROSCIENCE. 570 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,160 THESE INCLUDE PUBLIC 571 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,080 UNDERSTANDING, AND ENGAGEMENT 572 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,040 WITH NEUROSCIENCE AND ALSO THE 573 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,520 NEEDS FOR CHANGES AND HOW 574 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,320 NEUROSCIENCE RESEARCH IS TAUGHT 575 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,040 AND CONNECTED. 576 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,640 AND SO TODAY I'M GOING TO BE 577 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,080 FOCUSING REALLY MORE ON THE 578 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,360 BUY-DIRECTIONAL ENGAGEMENT 579 00:19:58,360 --> 00:19:58,560 ASPECT. 580 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,040 I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT 581 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,440 CHAPTER OF THE DANA FOUNDATION. 582 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,440 I'M GOING TO DESCRIBE HOW WE AT 583 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,000 DANA, ARE WORKING TO CATALYZE 584 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 CHANGE THROUGH THE NEXT CHAPTER, 585 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,360 WHICH FOCUSES ON NEUROSCIENCE 586 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:10,880 AND SOCIETY SO I'M LOOKING 587 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,640 FORWARD TO SHARING ALL OF THESE 588 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,920 DEVELOPMENTS WITH YOU. 589 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,640 SO, FOR THE FIRST POINT, TALKING 590 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,840 A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BEGINNING 591 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,720 OF MY JOURNEY IN NEUROSCIENCE 592 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,080 AND SOCIETY, THIS FIRST STEP IN 593 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,040 MY JOURNEY AND THE RECOGNITION 594 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,920 BY NEUROSCIENCE AND NEURO 595 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,360 TECHNOLOGY WERE ADVANCING 596 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,120 QUICKLY AND THEY WERE ADVANCING 597 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:33,360 IN SUCH EXCITING WAYS THAT OFTEN 598 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:34,960 CARRIES SIGNIFICANT ETHICAL, 599 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,200 LEGAL AND SOCIETAL IMPLICATIONS. 600 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,400 AND NOW LOOKING BACKWARDS IN 601 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,600 201, AND ONWARD IN THE U.S., AS 602 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,880 WELL AS EUROPE, JAPAN, AND MANY 603 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,240 OTHER COUNTRIES, THEY BEGAN TO 604 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,320 LAUNCH OR DESIGN LARGE-SCALE 605 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,480 NATIONALLY SPONSORED BRAIN 606 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:52,960 INITIATIVES. 607 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,480 AND AT THE TIME, I WAS STILL AT 608 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,520 THE FOUNDATION WHICH PLAYED A 609 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,640 CATALYST ROLE IN THE U.S. AND 610 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,640 INTERNATIONAL BRAIN INITIATIVES. 611 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,680 AND BACK IN 2016, IN THIS 612 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,560 PICTURE YOU SEE HERE, CORY 613 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,680 BAGMAN AND RAFFE CONVENED THE 614 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,840 LEADERS OF THIS INITIATIVES AND 615 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,440 ASKED THEM ABOUT THEIR HIGHEST 616 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,200 PRIORITY AREAS. 617 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,480 THAT WERE COMMON CHALLENGE AND 618 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,440 POTENTIAL COLLABORATIVE 619 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:19,960 OPPORTUNITIES. 620 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,400 AND A YEAR AFTER THAT CONVENING, 621 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,480 THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT CAME 622 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,560 OUT IN "SELF" AND YOU CAN ACCESS 623 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,160 THIS OPEN ACCESS AND IT 624 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,640 DESCRIBED THE HIGH PRIORITY 625 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,160 AREAS THAT EMERGE FROM THE 626 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,320 CONFERENCE AND ONE QUOTE YOU SEE 627 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,240 FROM THAT PAPER IS THAT THE 628 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,720 ETHICAL QUESTIONS RAISED BY 629 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,760 NEURO TECHNOLOGIES ARE 630 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,600 INTERNATIONAL QUESTIONS. 631 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,480 THEY CAN CARRY MORE ETHICAL, 632 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,000 LEGAL OR SOCIAL WEIGHT BECAUSE 633 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,200 THE ACTIVITY OF OUR BRAINS LEADS 634 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,600 TO OUR INNER MOST SELVES. 635 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,040 ETHICAL AND SOCIETAL QUESTIONS 636 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,880 ARE NOT FOR EXPERTS ALONE AND 637 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480 THE DISCOVERIES IN BRAIN SCIENCE 638 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,680 ABOUT EFFECT THE POPULATION AS A 639 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,000 WHOLE. 640 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,280 THERE WAS A LOT IN THAT 641 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,400 STATEMENTS AND A LOT IN THAT 642 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,120 MEETING AND GIVEN THAT CLEAR 643 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:07,520 CALL FOR COLLECTED ACTION ON 644 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,240 NEUROETHICS, THROUGH THE 645 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,320 MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND THE 646 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,680 BRAIN RESEARCH INSTITUTE TO 647 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,880 BRICK EACH BRAIN INITIATIVE 648 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,600 TOGETHER. 649 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,280 AND SO, THIS GLOBAL NEUROETHICS 650 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:32,160 SUMMIT IS LED BY KAREN 651 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,680 RONMELLANR AND ALSO BID SO I 652 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,640 SUNG-JIN JEONG. 653 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,000 AND WHAT THE GNS FOCUSED ON WAS 654 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,800 VALUES IN CULTURE AND 655 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,520 NEUROETHICS. 656 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,640 UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH OF THESE 657 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,360 DETERMINED WHAT KIND OF SCIENCE 658 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:53,680 HAPPENS AND WHERE IT CAN HAPPEN. 659 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,400 JUST IN 2019, THIS GROUP THAT 660 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,240 GNS PUBLISHED A SPECIAL ISSUE ON 661 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,200 PRACTISING NEUROETHICS AND THE 662 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,720 CONTEXT OF EACH OF THESE 663 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,680 LARGE-SCALE BRAIN INITIATIVES 664 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,240 AND THIS REPRESENTS THE FIRST OF 665 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,200 ITS KIND OF SPECIAL ISSUE AND A 666 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,520 HIGH-IMPACT NEUROSCIENCE JOURNAL 667 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,720 BACK IN 2019. 668 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,680 AND SO IF YOU CHECK OUT THESE 669 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,520 PAPERS, YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT 670 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,960 HOW EACH INITIATIVE CONSIDERED 671 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,800 KEY NEUROETHICS QUESTIONS. 672 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,520 THIS SET OF PAPERS MARKED THE 673 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,880 CULTURAL SHIFT WITHIN THE NEURO 674 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,400 SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY, 675 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,040 DEMONSTRATING THE NECESSITY, THE 676 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,440 VALUE OF NEUROETHICS WITHIN THE 677 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,840 NEUROSCIENCE ENTERPRISE. 678 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,560 AND THROUGH THIS GNS WORK, ONE 679 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,720 OF THE MOST IMPORTANT NEEDS THAT 680 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,160 STARTED TO SURFACE THROUGH OUT 681 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,440 THESE CONVERSATIONS, IS THAT OF 682 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,920 WHAT IS CALLED BUY-DIRECTIONAL 683 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,400 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON NEUROETHICS 684 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,800 ISSUES. 685 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,120 THERE'S A PAPER ACTUALLY IN 686 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:47,320 PREPARATION THAT DESCRIBES HOW 687 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,680 THE GMS EXPLORED THE ROLE AND 688 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,400 POSSIBLE GOALS OF PUBLIC 689 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,760 ENGAGEMENT ON HOT TOPICS IN 690 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,360 NEUROSCIENCE. 691 00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,160 AND SO, MOVING INTO PUBLIC 692 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,120 ENGAGEMENT, I'LL FAST FORWARD IN 693 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,360 TIME OF IT TO PROVIDE ONE CON 694 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,120 CREE EXAMPLE OF A CALL FOR 695 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,160 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT JUST FROM THE 696 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,200 LAST YEAR. 697 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,560 THE DANA FOUNDATION, ALONG WITH 698 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,840 THE U.S. NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF 699 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,240 HEALTH, CO FUNDED A CONSENSUS 700 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,040 STUDY REPORT ON THE EMERGING 701 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:21,040 FIELD OF HUMAN NURRAL ORGANOIDS 702 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,160 TRANSPLANTS AND THIS NATIONAL 703 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,760 ACADEMY'S REPORT FOCUSED ON THE 704 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,760 STATE OF THE SCIENCE, ETHICS AND 705 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,920 GOVERNANCE OF THESE MODELS FOR 706 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,280 STUDYING THE BRAIN. 707 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,600 THIS REPORT IS AVAILABLE FOR 708 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,920 FREE DOWNLOAD. 709 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,480 THERE WAS A SECTION OF WHEN NEW 710 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,880 SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY IS 711 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,080 DEVELOPED AND INTERESTINGLY IN 712 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,800 THEIR REPORT, THE AUTHORS ALSO 713 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,360 STATED THAT THE UNITED STATES 714 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:51,400 CURRENTLY LACKS EFFECTED 715 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,520 MECHANISMS TO CARRY AND 716 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,680 FACILITATOR CORY OUT PUBLIC 717 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,960 ENGAGEMENT AT THE NATIONAL 718 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,160 LEVEL. 719 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,080 AND ONE THING TO TAKE THIS 720 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,560 CONCEPT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, A 721 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,440 BIT DEEPER, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT 722 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,240 HAS BEEN USED TO DESCRIBE A 723 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,880 VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES 724 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,360 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO 725 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:11,720 CLEARLY DEFINE THE GOALS OF 726 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,160 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND THERE'S 727 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,880 VALUE TO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT 728 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,280 GOALS. 729 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,160 ONE PAPER THAT HAS BEEN 730 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,720 INFLUENTIAL IN MY OWN THINKING 731 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,440 COMES FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF 732 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,960 WISCONSIN MADISON AND HIS 733 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,320 CO-AUTHORS WHO PUT OUT A PNAS 734 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,680 PAPER ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT 735 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040 EFFECTIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON 736 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,720 CRISPR AND BEYOND. 737 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,960 IT OFFERS A NICE FRAMEWORK FOR 738 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,240 SEVEN EXQUISITE GOALS THAT 739 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,720 PROGRAMMES CAN SET FOR PUBLIC 740 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,080 ENGAGEMENT. 741 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,200 THESE GOALS ARE ORDERED BASED ON 742 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,960 THE EXTENT TO WHICH DIVERSE 743 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,840 PUBLIC AUDIENCES ARE ENGAGE. 744 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,680 THIS CAN RANGE FROM A 745 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,160 CONTROVERSY, TO MEANINGFULLY 746 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,760 PROVIDING INFLICT OF POLICY. 747 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,600 SO, AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF 748 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,200 THIS LADDER, THEY DESCRIBED ONE 749 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,400 GOAL MIGHT BE SIMPLY AVOID 750 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,200 POTENTIAL CONTROVERSY, THIS IS 751 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,040 OFTEN AN IMPLICIT GOAL IN ORDER 752 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:11,400 TO PROMOTE THE ADOPTION OF A NEW 753 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:11,840 TECHNOLOGY. 754 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,600 ADVANCING IN THE LATTER. 755 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840 ANOTHER GOAL IS TO EDUCATE THE 756 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,080 PUBLIC. 757 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,160 THIS IS AN AREA THE DANA 758 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,240 FOUNDATION HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN 759 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,520 AND MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN 760 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,880 INVOLVED IN IN BRAIN AWARENESS 761 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,120 WEEK AND OTHER INITIATIVES AT 762 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,280 VARIOUS UNIVERSITIES AND 763 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:29,960 ORGANIZATIONS. 764 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,320 NOW, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO 765 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,920 DESCRIBE EACH OF THESE, BUT YOU 766 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,920 CAN CERTAINLY READ MORE IN THE 767 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,920 PAPERS AS WELL. 768 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,240 THE AREAS THAT WE AT DANA 769 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,240 FOUNDATION ARE ESPECIALLY 770 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,120 INTERESTED IN FOR OUR FUTURE 771 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,480 WORK, ARE THOSE IN WHICH DIVERSE 772 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,400 PUBLICS MIGHT MEANINGFULLY 773 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,280 PROVIDE INPUT FOR A 774 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,120 DECISION-MAKING, OR INFORMED 775 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:50,360 POLICY. 776 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,440 SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE GOAL OF 777 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,440 ENABLING RESPONSIBLE INNOVATION, 778 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,800 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT COULD BE USED 779 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,520 TO HELP INFORM THE RESEARCH 780 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,440 ENTERPRISE, PERHAPS FOR THE 781 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,760 TYPES OF RESEARCH QUESTIONS THAT 782 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,760 ARE ASKED OR HOW THE METHODS ARE 783 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,640 APPROACHED IN A RESEARCH DESIGN 784 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760 T COULD HELP PROVIDE OR MAXIMIZE 785 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,920 POSSIBLE SOCIETAL RETURNS FROM 786 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,440 INVESTMENTS IN SCIENCE. 787 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,160 SO IT'S ONE WAY TO LOOK AT THIS 788 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:21,200 RANGE OF GOALS. 789 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,840 ALL RIGHT. 790 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,480 SO I THINK THAT NOW IT'S ABOUT 791 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,960 THE HALFWAY POINT SO I'M GOING 792 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,520 TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE COVERED UP 793 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,280 TO THIS POINT. 794 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,280 I SHARED THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT 795 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520 IN THE NEUROSCIENCE LANDSCAPE 796 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,920 THAT PROMPTED BY LOOK AT 797 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,200 NEUROETHICS ISSUES IN THE 798 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,440 SUMMIT. 799 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,560 THIS LEAD TO A DEEPER DIVE INTO 800 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,480 THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC 801 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,560 ENGAGEMENT ON NEUROETHICS ISSUES 802 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,480 AND ALSO THE IMPORTANCE OF 803 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,960 CLEARLY IDENTIFYING THE GOALS OF 804 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,600 ENGAGEMENT AT THE OUTSET OF THE 805 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,200 PROGRAMME. 806 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,000 AND THEN, FOR THIS LAST PART OF 807 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,400 MY IT TALK, I'M GOING TO TALK 808 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,160 ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE DANA 809 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:56,560 FOUNDATION. 810 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,160 THIS NEXT CHAPTER AND I WANT TO 811 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,600 ALSO NOTE BEFORE I GO INTO IT 812 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,240 THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A 813 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,120 REBRANDING PROCESS CURRENTLY SO 814 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:04,440 THE LANGUAGE AND THE VISUALS YOU 815 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,560 WILL SEE ARE STILL IN REFINEMENT 816 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,520 BUT I HOPE IT GIVES A SENSE WE 817 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,160 ARE WE'RE HEADED. 818 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,280 ALL RIGHT. 819 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280 SO, OUR FUTURE LOOKING VISION AT 820 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,840 THE DANA FOUNDATION, IS BRAIN 821 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,400 SCIENCE FOR A BETTER FUTURE. 822 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,480 AND WHAT WE ENVISION IS A FUTURE 823 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:31,320 WHERE, NEUROSCIENCE BO INFORMS D 824 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,840 REFLECTS SEW SIGH THEME 825 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,440 LISTENING AND RESPONDING TO 826 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,840 PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, BACKGROUNDS 827 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,480 AND CULTURES, AS WELL AS 828 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,480 PROFESSIONALS FROM OTHER 829 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,120 DISCIPLINES, WE BELIEVE THE 830 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,280 FIELD WILL HELP IMPROVE THE 831 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,240 LIVES OF INDIVIDUALS AND 832 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:43,560 COMMUNITIES. 833 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,320 WE ALSO THINK THAT NEUROSCIENCE 834 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,320 WILL BE BETTER UNDERSTOOD AND 835 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,560 VALUED BY THE PUBLIC. 836 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,320 A NEW GENERATION OF NEURO 837 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,720 SCIENTISTS WILL BE EQUIPPED TO 838 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680 PUSH THE FIELD INTO NEW 839 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,200 FRONTIERS. 840 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,000 THEY'LL BE TRAINED WITH AN 841 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:58,880 APPRECIATION FOR AND KNOWLEDGE 842 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,280 OF OTHER DISCIPLINES. 843 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:03,880 AND WHEN IT WILL BE A DRIVING 844 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,800 FORCE FOR A HEALTHIER WORLD THAT 845 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,640 LIVES TO ITS HIGHEST IDEALS OF 846 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,000 EQUITY AND JUSTICE. 847 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,680 SO THAT IS THE BIG VISION. 848 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,000 NOW I'LL TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING 849 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,280 BLOCKS TO GET THERE AND OUR 850 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,840 MISSION IS TO ADVANCE 851 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,520 NEUROSCIENCE THAT BENEFITS THE 852 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,240 SOCIETY AND REFLECTS THE 853 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,360 ASPIRATIONS OF ALL PEOPLE SO WE 854 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,800 REALLY FOCUS ON THE CONNECTIONS 855 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,840 BETWEEN NEUROSCIENCE AND SOCIETY 856 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,880 CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES AND 857 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,800 WORK TO MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL 858 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,800 OF THE FIELD TO DO GOOD. 859 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,560 AND WE FULFILL THIS MISSION 860 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,640 THROUGH THREE KEY PROGRAMME 861 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:43,960 PILLARS. 862 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,000 THIS STRATEGY FOR THE PROGRAMME 863 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,720 IS LED BY CARA RAMOS WHO IS 864 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,560 FANTASTIC AND BUILT THE 865 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760 NEUROETHICS FOR THE U.S. BRAIN 866 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,080 INITIATIVE. 867 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,960 SO NOW DIVING IN TOUR PILLARS, 868 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:01,960 THE FIRST IS THE DANA EDUCATION 869 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,800 PROGRAMME DRAWING FROM OUR ROOTS 870 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,360 STEMMING BACK TO THE 1950s BUT 871 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,000 DIVING VERY DEEPLY INTO THE 872 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,640 EDUCATION AND OUTREACH WORK IN 873 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,800 NEUROSCIENCE FROM THE 90s 874 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,080 ONWARD AND THE GOAL HERE IS TO 875 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960 STRENGTHEN NEUROSCIENCES 876 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,400 POSITIVE ROLE IN THE WORLD AND 877 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,520 SPARKING CENTRE AND EDUCATION 878 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,400 AROUND NEUROSCIENCE AND THE MANY 879 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,720 WAYS THAT IT INTERFACES WITH OUR 880 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,920 DAILY LIVES. 881 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160 AND THIS PROGRAMME IS LED AT THE 882 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,520 DANA FOUNDATION BY KATHLEEN 883 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,960 ROWNEA WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF 884 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,400 EDUCATION. 885 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:42,000 THE NEXT PILLAR IS THAT OF THE 886 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,480 DEAN AND NEXTGEN PROGRAMME. 887 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,480 THE GOAL IS TO STRENGTHEN THE 888 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,240 POSITIVE ROLE IN THE WORLD BY 889 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,360 DEVELOPING A NEW GENERATION OF 890 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,480 INTER DISCIPLINARY EXPERTS WHO 891 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,320 SHEPPARD NEUROSCIENCE USES FOR A 892 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:56,640 BETTER WORLD. 893 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,120 WE ANTICIPATE DOING A FEW THINGS 894 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,320 UNDER THIS PILLAR, SUPPORTING 895 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,600 TRAINING PROGRAMMES, SEEDING 896 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,360 CROSS DISCIPLINARY COLLABORATIVE 897 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,680 WORK AND ALSO AIMING TO GROW A 898 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,520 NEW FUTURE LEADERS TO SHEPPARD 899 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,400 NEUROSCIENCE FOR A BETTER WORLD. 900 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:19,480 THIS PROGRAMME, AT DANA, IS LED 901 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,440 BY GUPTA THE PROGRAMME OFFICER, 902 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,880 HE IS A FORMER COLLAB TO BE AT 903 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,080 THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND 904 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:32,920 HE JUST PRESENTED THE POST TRIAL 905 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,920 RESPONSIBILITY AND WE'RE HAPPY 906 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,680 TO HAVE HIM WITH AS WELL. 907 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,640 WE CALL IN THE DANA FRONTIER 908 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,320 PROGRAMME AND THE GOAL SCHEER TO 909 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,840 STRENGTHEN NEUROSCIENCES 910 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,640 POSITIVE ROLE IN THE WORLD BY 911 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,640 GROWING CAPACITY FOR INFORMED 912 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,840 PUBLIC REFLECTION ON EMERGING 913 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,040 NEUROSCIENCE AND NEURO 914 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,840 TECHNOLOGY AND THERE ARE A FEW 915 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,040 OBJECTIVES UNDER THIS PILLAR. 916 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,040 I'M GOING TO SHARE AN EXAMPLE OF 917 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,680 THIS TODAY JUST IN THE INTEREST 918 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,440 OF TIME. 919 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,800 BUT WE REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN 920 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,080 INCREASE OUR UNDERSTANDING AND 921 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,080 DELIBERATION ON THESE NEW 922 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,640 SCIENCE ADVANCES, AMONG 923 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,400 PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ALREADY 924 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,600 INTERFACE WITH NEUROSCIENCE AS 925 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,200 WELL AS OTHER SECTORS OF THE 926 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,480 PUBLIC. 927 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,480 WHO TOUCH CLOSELY UPON 928 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,960 NEUROSCIENCE. 929 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,080 THIS PROGRAMME IS LED BY PAULA 930 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,640 CROXEN WHO JUST JOINED US LAST 931 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,200 WEEK AND SHE WAS PREVIOUSLY THE 932 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,240 DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROGRAMMES AT 933 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,960 THE ZUCKERMAN INSTITUTE SO WE'RE 934 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,960 BUILDING PILLARS AND WE'RE 935 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,000 BUILDING PROGRAMMES AND YOU 936 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,680 MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS, 937 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,760 ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS IN A 938 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,080 SIMPLIFIED WAY IS THESE NEW 939 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,600 PILLARS THAT I SHOW HERE, COULD 940 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,200 REPRESENT TWO ENDS OF THE SAME 941 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,040 SCIENCE PIPELINE. 942 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,800 YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE 943 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,760 SCIENCE, TOUCH UPON THE SCIENCE 944 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,920 AND THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE 945 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,280 SCIENCE. 946 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,560 AND THE IMPORTANTLY WE SEE 947 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,800 THERE'S A BY-DIRECTIONALITY BOTH 948 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,600 OF FEED FORWARD AS WELL AS 949 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,400 FEEDBACK WARDS, CIRCULATION OF 950 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,720 INFORMATION WITHIN THIS 951 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,280 PIPELINE. 952 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,960 AND SO, WITH THAT, I HOPE THAT 953 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:11,920 PROVIDES A BIT OF A FOUNDATION 954 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,280 FOR SOME PROGRAMMES THAT FALL 955 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,840 UNDER THESE PILLARS AND THE 956 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,160 FIRST I'LL SHARE ABOUT FALLS 957 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,040 UNDER THE DANA EDUCATION PILLAR, 958 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,080 WHICH YOU WILL REMEMBER THE GOAL 959 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,160 BEING TO SPARK INTEREST IN 960 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,200 EDUCATION AROUND NEUROSCIENCE 961 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,760 AND THE WAY IT INTERFACES WITH 962 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,800 OUR LIVES AND IT'S A 963 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,880 ILLUSTRATIVE EXAMPLE OF THIS. 964 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,840 IT BEGAN IN 1996 BY THE DANA 965 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,240 ALLIANCES FOR BRAIN INITIATIVES 966 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,480 AND THE EUROPEAN DANA ALLIANCE 967 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,720 FOR THE BRAIN AND IT IS A 968 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,400 CAMPAIGN THAT IS COORDINATED BY 969 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,080 THE DANA FOUNDATION. 970 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,840 AND SO, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF 971 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,240 TIME, YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT 972 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,560 THIS THROUGH THE BRAIN AWARENESS 973 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,240 WEEK WEBSITE. 974 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,960 WE PARTNER CLOSELY WITH THE 975 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,960 FEDERATION OF EUROPEAN 976 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,160 NEUROSCIENCE SOCIETY AS WELL AS 977 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,240 THE INTERNATIONAL BRAIN RESEARCH 978 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,000 ORGANIZATION FOR ANYONE OUT 979 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,600 THERE WHO IS INTERESTED IN 980 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840 POTENTIALLY HOSTING, PARTNERING 981 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,000 ON THIS, THESE CALL FOR 982 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,400 PROPOSALS, WILL GO OUT THIS 983 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:15,640 COMING FALL FROM THOSE FENS AND 984 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:15,920 IBRO. 985 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,520 THEY COVER COUNTRIES OUTSIDE OF 986 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,200 NEURO SO CHECK THAT OUT. 987 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,040 AND NOW FOR AN EXAMPLE OF A 988 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,440 PROGRAMME WITHIN THE DANA 989 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:29,800 NEXTGEN PILLAR. 990 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,120 THIS IS VERY KNEW AND HOT OFF 991 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,280 THE PRESSES AND WE'RE ACTUALLY 992 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,640 IN A REVIEW PERIOD FOR THIS 993 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,240 FIRST LAUNCH OF A REQUEST FOR 994 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:37,640 PROPOSALS. 995 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,280 IN MAY, WE LAUNCHED AN RFP FOR A 996 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,080 DANA CENTRE IN NEUROSCIENCE AND 997 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,320 SOCIETY. 998 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,520 AND WE SEE THIS INTE CENTRE BEIY 999 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,440 COMMITTED TO INTER DISCIPLINARY 1000 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,000 TRAINING IN NEUROSCIENCE THAT 1001 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,480 ENGAGES IN RESEARCH WITH AN EYE 1002 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,200 TOWARDS ADDRESSING PRACTICAL 1003 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,560 ISSUES RAISED BY NEUROSCIENCE 1004 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,000 AND WE SEE THESE CENTRES ACTING 1005 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,280 AS CATALYTIC HUBS WHERE 1006 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,320 MULTI-DISCIPLINARY SCHOLARS CAN 1007 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:15,440 GATHER TO LEARN AND EXCHANGE 1008 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,520 IDEAS, AND GORGE COLLABORATIONS, 1009 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120 WE RECEIVED A ROBUST CALL FOR 1010 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160 PROPOSALS THAT FAR EXCEEDED OUR 1011 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,200 EXPECTATIONS IN TERMS OF NUMBER 1012 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,480 AND QUALITY SO WE'RE IN A DEEP 1013 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,240 REVIEW PROCESS FOR THESE 1014 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,320 PROPOSALS BUT I HOPE IT 1015 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,440 ILLUSTRATES THE SPIRIT OF THE 1016 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,200 TYPES OF PROGRAMMES WE HOPE TO 1017 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,360 LAUNCH UNDER THIS DANA NEXTGEN 1018 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:35,600 PROGRAMME. 1019 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,680 AND FINALLY, AS AN ILLUSTRATION 1020 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,040 OF OUR THIRD D PILLAR, I'LL SHAT 1021 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,440 THIS EXAMPLE WHICH WAS A FOLLOW 1022 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,120 ONTO THE CALLS AND THE 1023 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,280 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE 1024 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,000 PROVIDED IN THAT NATIONAL 1025 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000 ACADEMY REPORT ON TRANSPLANTS 1026 00:35:53,000 --> 00:36:03,200 AND ORGANOIDS I SHARED ABOUT. 1027 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,120 FOR NEW APPROACHES TO 1028 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,040 BIDIRECTIONAL PUB ENGAGEMENT 1029 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,600 WITH A FOCUS ON NEURAL ORGANOIDS 1030 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,800 AND BRAIN DATA PRIVACY. 1031 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,320 YOU SEE A FEW OF THE PEOPLE THAT 1032 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680 JOHN MENTIONED EARLIER FROM A 1033 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,480 NEUROSCIENCE BRIEFING THAT TOOK 1034 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,880 PLACE ON THE IMPORTANCE OF NEURO 1035 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,560 ETH PICK AND THIS TEAM HERE 1036 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,040 INCLUDING CLAIRE, RAE AND JAYEHI 1037 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,160 AND DARYL ARE WORKING ON 1038 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,120 DEVELOPING NEW MODELS FOR 1039 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,160 ENGAGEMENT AND THE NEXT STEP 1040 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,840 WITH THEIR WORK, THEY'RE GOING 1041 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,160 TO COLLABORATE WITH A SMALL 1042 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520 COHORT OF THE NATIONAL INFORMAL 1043 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,720 STEM EDUCATION NETWORK TO TEST 1044 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,480 AND EVALUATE THE ENGAGEMENT 1045 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,040 ACTIVITIES THAT THEY'RE 1046 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,640 DEVELOPING AT DIFFERENT SITES. 1047 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:59,280 SO, THAT'S AN ILLUSTRATION. 1048 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,840 THE FOUNDATION AIMS TO PARTNER 1049 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,240 WITH ORGANIZATION TO STRENGTHEN 1050 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:06,120 AND GROW NEUROETHICS AS A WHOLE. 1051 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,320 WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR IS 1052 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,320 PARTNERING WITH THE 1053 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,160 INTERNATIONAL NEUROETHICS 1054 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,200 SOCIETY ON THEIR CONFERENCE AND 1055 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,160 IT MARKS THE 20th ANNIVERSARY 1056 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,920 OF THE DANA FOUNDATION'S 1057 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,280 LANDMARK MEETING ON NEUROETHICS 1058 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,920 MAPPING THE FIELD WHICH WAS 1059 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,600 CONSIDERED BY MANY TO BE THE 1060 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,120 BIRTH OF NEUROETHICS AND THE 1061 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,120 GENESIS OF THE INS. 1062 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,320 SO, I HAVE HERE LISTED THE DATES 1063 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,280 THAT A PLUG FOR THE MEETING AND 1064 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,280 AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF THE 1065 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,600 SESSIONS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO 1066 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,520 CHECK OUT. 1067 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,120 TAKING BOTH RETROSPECTIVE VIEW 1068 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:46,800 AND PROSPECT AND PAUL WILL BE A 1069 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,280 MODERATOR AND THAT SESSION AND 1070 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,040 YOU SEE ON THE LEFT AND ON THE 1071 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,320 RIGHT IS A DANA SEMINAR IN 1072 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,480 NEUROSCIENCE AND SOCIETY. 1073 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,440 WHERE DO WE GO? 1074 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,120 WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THE FIELD 1075 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,680 LOOKS LIKE? 1076 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,800 WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE GROUP 1077 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,200 HERE INCLUDING WINSTON CHIONG 1078 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,080 THAT WILL SPEAK AS PART OF THIS 1079 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,560 PANEL. 1080 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,880 SO OUR WORK AS WE MOVE FORWARD, 1081 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,720 IS GOING TO BE VERY MUCH 1082 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:09,000 COLLABORATIVE IN 1083 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,520 PARTNERSHIP-BASED. 1084 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,560 WE REALLY SEEK TO HELP THOSE WHO 1085 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,720 ARE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO 1086 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,280 SCHOLARS AND OTHERS IN THE FIELD 1087 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,720 TO STRENGTHEN THEIR WORK. 1088 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:24,120 AND SO JUST A COUPLE OF FINAL 1089 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,760 POINTS HERE. 1090 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,600 ONE IS THAT WE WANT A TO HEAR 1091 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,600 FROM YOU. 1092 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,720 AS WE FORGE AHEAD IN OUR NEW 1093 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,160 MISSION, WE CONTINUE TO SEEK 1094 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,920 COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT 1095 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,400 TO FURTHER REFINE OUR OWN 1096 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,880 PROGRAMMATIC STRATEGY. 1097 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,160 ONE WAY TO INVITE THIS INPUT IS 1098 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,160 THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH DANA 1099 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,720 STAFF MEMBERS AND SO THE DANA 1100 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,000 FOUNDATION IS GOING TO HOST SAY 1101 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 SATELLITE SOCIAL EVENT AT THE 1102 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,640 UPCOMING SOCIETY FOR 1103 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,560 NEUROSCIENCE CONFERENCE IN SAN 1104 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,360 DIEGO THIS YEAR AND TO HEAR 1105 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,160 IDEAS AND NEEDS FOR TRAINING 1106 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,320 INTER DISCIPLINARY TRAINING IN 1107 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,240 NEUROSCIENCE AND SOCIETY. 1108 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,480 YOU CAN FIND MORE ABOUT THIS 1109 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,200 PROGRAM IN THE PRELIMINARY 1110 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,520 PROGRAM FOR NEUROSCIENCE SFN AND 1111 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,280 WE INVITE YOU TO CHAT WITH US IN 1112 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,880 AN INFORMAL CONTEXT SO WE CAN 1113 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,880 HEAR FROM YOU, ESPECIALLY THIS 1114 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,960 IS AN INVITATION TO TRAINEES OR 1115 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,360 THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN 1116 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,160 NEUROSCIENCE TRAINING PROGRAMS. 1117 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,600 ALL RIGHT. 1118 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,800 AND SO THIS IS MY FINAL 1119 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,720 SUBSTANCE SLIDE WHICH IS ALSO AN 1120 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:27,360 INVITATION FOR COLLABORATION, 1121 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,080 OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION, 1122 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,640 PERHAPS BETWEEN THE NIH BRAIN 1123 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,880 INITIATIVE AND DANA FOUNDATION. 1124 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,600 I THINK THERE ARE MANY SHARED 1125 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,800 INTERESTS BETWEEN ORPHANEDDATIOD 1126 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,160 FOR EXAMPLE, THE BRAIN 1127 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,000 INITIATIVE CHALLENGE FOR HIGH 1128 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,200 SCHOOL STUDENTS TO EXPLORE 1129 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,800 ETHICAL ISSUES IN NEUROSCIENCE 1130 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,520 ALIGNS CLOSELY WITH THE DANA 1131 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,800 FOUNDATION'S EDUCATION GOALS I 1132 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,080 DESCRIBED EARLIER. 1133 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,600 AND AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, THE 1134 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,560 BRAIN INITIATIVES EFFORTS TO 1135 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,960 INTEGRATE NEURO ETHICS INTO 1136 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,000 NEUROSCIENCE ALIGNED WITH OUR 1137 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360 WORK IN THE DANA CENTER TO 1138 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:10,040 SUPPORT CAT A LID I CA CATALYTI. 1139 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,680 SOME IDEAS FOR THIS, WE COULD 1140 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,080 ENVISION THAT AT THE CENTERS 1141 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,600 WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE SEED 1142 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,680 FUNDING PROVIDED FOR INTER 1143 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,880 DISCIPLINARY PROJECTS, PERHAPS 1144 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,000 THESE PROJECTS COULD PRODUCE 1145 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040 PRELIMINARY DATA THAT COULD BE 1146 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,520 PARLAYED INTO AN NIH NEUROETHICS 1147 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,040 RO1 GRANT FOR EXAMPLE OR 1148 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,760 SIMILARLY OUR SUPPORT FOR 1149 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,720 NEUROETHICS PROGRAMS COULD BE 1150 00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:36,560 SUPPORTING NEUROETHICS TRAINING 1151 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,280 WITH THE HOPE THAT AN AGENCY, 1152 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,320 MIGHT ONE DAY LAUNCH T32 AND 1153 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,760 THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES, 1154 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,960 SOME WAYS THAT WE THINK ABOUT 1155 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,080 PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND 1156 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,880 SO HOPEFULLY THAT CAN BE SOME 1157 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,720 FODDER FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION 1158 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,760 AND COLLABORATION. 1159 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,120 AND SO WITH THAT, I JUST WOULD 1160 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,640 LIKE TO THANK YOU, AGAIN, I 1161 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,520 THANK THE NEW WORKING GROUP FOR 1162 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,360 THE INVITATION TO SPEAK TODAY 1163 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,920 AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISITS 1164 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,440 OUR WEBSITE TO STAY IN THE KNOW 1165 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,760 ABOUT NEWS AND OPPORTUNITIES. 1166 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,840 I LOOK FORWARD TO COLLABORATION 1167 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,240 WITH THIS GROUP AND THE BRAIN 1168 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,000 INITIATIVE TO STRENGTHEN 1169 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,520 NEUROSCIENCE'S ROLE IN THE 1170 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:16,720 WORLD. 1171 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:17,000 THANK YOU. 1172 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,680 >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH Dr. 1173 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,440 MONTOJO. 1174 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,720 EXCITING THINGS THE DANA 1175 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,200 FOUNDATION IS DOING UNDER YOUR 1176 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,080 LEADERSHIP AND I THINK THERE 1177 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,400 WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR 1178 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,160 COLLABORATION BETWEEN THINGS 1179 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,520 THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND WE'RE 1180 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,800 THRILLED TO HAVE YOU AS A MEMBER 1181 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,240 OF THE NEWG AS WELL. 1182 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,960 WE HAVE TIME FOR SOME QUESTIONS 1183 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,120 OR COMMENTS. 1184 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,440 WHILE YOU ARE THINKING OF WHAT 1185 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,400 YOU WANT TO ASK, I WANT TO NOTE 1186 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,560 THAT Dr. WHITE HAS PUT A 1187 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,720 COUPLE OF LINKS IN THE CHAT THAT 1188 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:50,840 ARE VERY USEFUL IF YOU ARE 1189 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,720 INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING UP ON 1190 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:56,600 SOME OF THOSE. 1191 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,680 OPPORTUNITIES. 1192 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:57,880 JIM -- 1193 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,080 >> THANK YOU, CHRISTINE. 1194 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,480 THANK YOU, CAROLINE. 1195 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,320 IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE HOW 1196 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,440 THE DANA FOUNDATION IS 1197 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,320 DEVELOPING AND ADVANCING IT'S 1198 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,200 ALREADY REALLY IMPORTANT 1199 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:07,560 MISSION. 1200 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,000 WITH THAT IN MIND, AS YOU ARE 1201 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,600 THINKING ABOUT THE NEW 1202 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,400 DIRECTION, NEW EMPHASIS FOR THE 1203 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,600 DANA, DO YOU HAVE MORE THOUGHTS 1204 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,360 HOW TO ENGAGE THE RESEARCHERS 1205 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,520 THEMSELVES, IN THINKING ABOUT 1206 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,360 NEUROETHICS AND REALLY BECOMING 1207 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,120 MORE INVOLVED IN THINKING ABOUT 1208 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,240 SOCIETAL IMPACT AND EDUCATION 1209 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:30,400 AND REALLY GETTING THEM MORE IN 1210 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,520 SYNCH WITH WHAT YOU ARE THINKING 1211 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,360 ABOUT. 1212 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:32,600 >> YES. 1213 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,440 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR 1214 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,120 PROGRAMMATIC DEAL AS WELL AS 1215 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,760 MEMBERS ON THIS CALL ARE 1216 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,720 ACTIVELY TALKING ABOUT. 1217 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:47,000 ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES AT THE 1218 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,480 DANA FOUNDATION IS BEING ABLE TO 1219 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,600 GROW A NEW GENERATION OF INTER 1220 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,120 DISCIPLINARY EXPERTS WHO CAN 1221 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,800 REFLECT ON ETHICAL AND SOCIETAL 1222 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,600 ISSUES IN NEUROSCIENCE. 1223 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,040 SO AS FAR AS IDEAS GO, THERE ARE 1224 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,160 A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH 1225 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,080 WE'RE STARTING TO PILOT AND 1226 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,320 TACKLE SOME OF THE GAPS THAT WE 1227 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,520 SEE RIGHT NOW. 1228 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,960 I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST IS THE 1229 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,080 IMPORTANCE OF DESIGNING AND 1230 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,160 LAUNCHING INNOVATIVE TREATMENT 1231 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,440 PROGRAM THAT CAN GO FAR BEYOND 1232 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,760 THE KINDS OF INTERNET MODULES ON 1233 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,840 RESPONSIBLE CONDUCT AND RESEARCH 1234 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,600 TRAINING THAT MANY OF US, WHO 1235 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,360 GREW IN THE SIGNS FIELD WERE 1236 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,880 EXPOSED TO BUT, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T 1237 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,320 COVER THE LANDSCAPE OF ETHICAL 1238 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,080 SOCIETAL ISSUES IN WAYS THAT ARE 1239 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,240 INTEGRATED AND RELATE TO THE 1240 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:39,680 SCIENCE THAT WE'RE DOING AT THE 1241 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,080 BENCH IN OUR LABS. 1242 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,360 SO, I THINK THAT BEING ABLE TO 1243 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,360 INTEGRATE THIS INTO NEUROSCIENCE 1244 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,800 CURRICULA IN A MORE SYSTEMATIC, 1245 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,240 AS WELL AS A DEEPLY MEANINGFUL 1246 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,320 AND ENGAGING WAY. 1247 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,320 NOT UNI DIRECTIONAL BUT MORE OF 1248 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,680 THE ENGAGE DEBATE, DIALOGUE 1249 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,800 DISCUSSION, CASE STUDY FROM THAT 1250 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,960 COULD BE REALLY USEFUL. 1251 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,440 THERE ARE SOME OF THESE 1252 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,240 COMPONENTS AND THERE'S A STRONG 1253 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:11,080 CULTURAL COMB UPON COMB PHONE A. 1254 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,280 THERE'S STILL A LOT TO BE BUILT 1255 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,600 IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THE 1256 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,520 VALUE THAT NEUROETHICS BRINGS 1257 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,880 INTO THE RESEARCH ENTERPRISE. 1258 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,720 SO, THIS CULTURAL ASPECT IS ONE 1259 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,360 THAT WE'RE ALSO THINKING A LOT 1260 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:24,960 ABOUT. 1261 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,440 I THINK IT WILL REQUIRE 1262 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,320 COMMUNITY BUILDING, REQUIRE A 1263 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,800 LOT OF VALUE DEMONSTRATION TO 1264 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,960 SHOW CONCRETELY WITHIN THE SCOPE 1265 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,480 OF PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE 1266 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,400 WHAT'S BEING FUNDED IN THESE RO1 1267 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,120 NEUROETHICS GRANTS TO SHOW 1268 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,880 PRACTICAL WAYS IN WHICH 1269 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,240 NEUROETHICS IS INTEGRATED INTO 1270 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:45,560 THEIR RESEARCH SETTING. 1271 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,400 SO THEY'RE PRACTICAL AS WELL AS 1272 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,160 MORE COMMUNITY-BUILDING ASPECTS 1273 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,600 TO HOPING THIS GENERATION, THE 1274 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,920 CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS 1275 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,560 OF NEURO SCIENTISTS INTEGRATING 1276 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,320 ETHICS IN OUR WORK. 1277 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,680 IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION AND 1278 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,160 SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT SO WE 1279 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,400 INVITE SUGGESTIONS. 1280 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,400 >> THANK YOU, CAROLINE. 1281 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,720 I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW 1282 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:12,800 THINGS PROGRESS. 1283 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,640 >> THANK YOU. 1284 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,840 >> SAMIR. 1285 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,040 >> THANK YOU. 1286 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,880 THAT WAS GREAT AND I REALLY 1287 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,840 ENJOYED THAT. 1288 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,280 REALLY APPRECIATE THE EMPHASIS 1289 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,240 OF THE DANA AND THE SCIENCE AND 1290 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:27,040 SOCIETY AND THE RELATIONSHIP 1291 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,360 BETWEEN THEM AND THE INTERACTION 1292 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,320 BACK AND FOURTH. 1293 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,800 MY QUESTION I GUESS IS ONE OF 1294 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,360 WHAT YOU SEE IN TERMS OF THE 1295 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,440 FUTURE OF THE THE FOUNDATION IN 1296 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,840 TERMS OF ITS ROLE AS AN 1297 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,520 INFLUENCER IN THIS SPACE, IN 1298 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,720 THIS NEUROETHICS SPACE? 1299 00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:42,360 SO, AS A FUNDER, ANY FUNDER, 1300 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,720 CERTAINLY NIH FOUNDATIONS, ET 1301 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,440 CETERA, I MEAN YOU NATURALLY 1302 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,880 INFLUENCE THE SCIENCE THAT IS 1303 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,320 HAPPENING. 1304 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,320 BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE STUFF THAT 1305 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,080 GETS FUNDED HAPPENS AND THE 1306 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680 STUFF THAT DOESN'T GET FUNDED 1307 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:54,920 DOESN'T. 1308 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,080 DO YOU SEE PART OF THE FUTURE 1309 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,040 ROLE WITH THE DANA FOUNDATION 1310 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,800 ALSO AS INFLUENCING THESE 1311 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,360 QUESTIONS OF, I MEAN, A LOT OF 1312 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,640 STUFF WE'LL TALK ABOUT TODAY, 1313 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,640 HOW TRIALS SHOULD BE CONDUCTED, 1314 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,120 YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN, 1315 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,320 HOW COULD IT HAPPEN? 1316 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,800 COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS, SPREAD 1317 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,040 THE WORDS SO ALL THE DIFFERENT 1318 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,880 STAKEHOLDERS KNOW THAT THIS IS 1319 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,080 NOW THE DANA FOUNDATION FEELS 1320 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,400 ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES 1321 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,000 AND WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN? 1322 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,560 IS THAT LIKE A GOAL OF THE 1323 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,560 FOUNDATION AS YOU MOVE FORWARD 1324 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,680 IN THIS NEW WAY? 1325 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,440 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 1326 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,040 IT'S A WONDERFUL ONE. 1327 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,400 THE ANSWER IS YES. 1328 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,520 THE DANA FOUNDATION DOES SEE 1329 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,240 ITSELF AS AN INFLUENCER AND AS A 1330 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,760 PRIVATE FOUNDATION AND JUST 1331 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,160 HAVING GROWN IN THE WORLD OF 1332 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,040 SCIENCE PHILANTHROPY AND WE 1333 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,000 RECOGNIZE THAT PRIVATE 1334 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,120 FOUNDATIONS HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY 1335 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,600 AS A CATALYZER AND ALSO AS YOU 1336 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,040 PUT IT, AN INFLUENCER AND 1337 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,920 ANOTHER WAY WE THINK ABOUT IT IS 1338 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,920 SYSTEMS CHANGE, THAT PRIVATE 1339 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,280 PHILANTHROPIES HAVE AN 1340 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,680 OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN NEW 1341 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,240 PERHAPS MORE RISKY IDEAS AT 1342 00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:06,080 EARLY STAGES. 1343 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,520 ESPECIALLY FOCUSING ON AREAS 1344 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,320 THAT ARE INTER DISCIPLINARY 1345 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,240 BECAUSE YOU CAN KIND OF DO SOME 1346 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:16,760 BOUNDARY WORK NOT CONSTRAINED BY 1347 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,920 TRADITIONAL MECHANISMS. 1348 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,600 I WHAT I HOPE TO SEE AND WHAT WE 1349 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,600 AIM FOR IS THAT WE CAN ACT AS 1350 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,040 BOTH A PARTNER, RIGHT, WORKING 1351 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,320 WITH THOSE IN THE FIELD THAT 1352 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,280 HAVE LEVERS FOR CHANGE, 1353 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,360 INFLUENCE THE FIELD IN DIFFERENT 1354 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:31,800 WAYS. 1355 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,040 AND ALSO, HELP TO PROVIDE 1356 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,720 INSPIRATION AND EXAMPLES FOR 1357 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:41,040 OTHERS TO INTEGRATE 1358 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,600 ADVANCE-THINKING PROACTIVE AND 1359 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,160 PARTICIPATORY THINKING ABOUT 1360 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,160 ETHICAL, LEGAL AND SOCIETAL 1361 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:47,840 CONSIDERATIONS WITHIN 1362 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,400 NEUROSCIENCE AND HOPEFULLY, IF 1363 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:56,440 WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT, COULD BE 1364 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,160 BEYOND NEURO SCIENCE BECAUSE 1365 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,000 THERE ARE AREAS LIKE A.I. THAT 1366 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,560 ARE STARTING TO GO INTO THESE 1367 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,040 DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE 1368 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:04,320 TERRITORIES. 1369 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,880 SO, THE ANSWER IS YES. 1370 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,040 WE LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING 1371 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,160 WITH OTHERS TO DO THIS. 1372 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,320 I WILL SAY THAT THE FOUNDATION 1373 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,360 IS ALSO PART OF THE SCIENCE 1374 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,520 PHILANTHROPY ALLIANCE WHICH IS A 1375 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,800 COLLECTION OF PRIVATE FUNDERS 1376 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,440 THAT SUPPORT VARIOUS SCIENCE 1377 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:21,760 FIELDS. 1378 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,160 MANY OF THEM BEING NEUROSCIENCE 1379 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:30,840 AS WELL AND SO IF WE CAN PROVIDE 1380 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,240 MODELS HOW THE WORK IS DONE IT 1381 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:34,640 WITH INSPIRE OTHERS TO ADOPT 1382 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,040 THOSE TWO. 1383 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,120 >> VERY NICE, THANK YOU. 1384 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,680 >> I SEE TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND 1385 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,360 THEN WE'RE OUT OF TIME. 1386 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,720 TED ABLE, FIRST. 1387 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,360 >> THANK YOU FOR A TERRIFIC 1388 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:45,560 TALK. 1389 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,840 TED ABLE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 1390 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,240 IOWA AND THANK YOU FOR THE DANA 1391 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:49,520 FOUNDATION FOR THEIR IMPACT. 1392 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,680 IT WAS AT PENN AND WE STARTED A 1393 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,760 KIDS JUDGE NEUROSCIENCE FAIR AND 1394 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,360 COURSES IN LOCAL ELEMENTARY 1395 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,600 SCHOOLS, PART OF THE KIND OF 1396 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,600 BRAIN BE AND EVERYTHING ELSE 1397 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,960 THAT THE DANA FOUNDATION 1398 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,840 ENCOURAGE IN TERMS OF THEIR 1399 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,000 BRAIN AWARENESS WEEK SO THINK 1400 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,040 FOR THAT IMPACT AND LOOKING 1401 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,320 FORWARD TO THE IMPACT HERE. 1402 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,680 MY QUESTION IS A QUESTION FROM 1403 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,040 THE PERSPECTIVE OF 1404 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:14,520 NEURODIVERSITY. 1405 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,480 AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT 1406 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,760 NEUROETHICS, WE HEAR A LOT OF 1407 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,200 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TREATMENT AND 1408 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,560 WE ALSO HEAR A LOT OF 1409 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,880 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT INCLUDING 1410 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,360 DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES. 1411 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,360 BUT IT'S INTERESTING HOW LITTLE 1412 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,400 WE HEAR ABOUT NEURODIVERSITY AND 1413 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,800 OUR SON IS STARTING A COURSE 1414 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,200 THIS WEEK AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 1415 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,960 IOWA ON DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES IN 1416 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:36,240 MATHEMATICS. 1417 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,640 AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT 1418 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,200 AND THE CONTRIBUTION OF 1419 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,280 INDIVIDUALS, WITH BRAIN 1420 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,600 DISORDERS, TO MATHEMATICS AND 1421 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,960 THEIR CREATIVITY IT'S STRIKING. 1422 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,040 SO, I WONDER WHAT THE DANA 1423 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,960 FOUNDATION'S PERSPECTIVE IS ON 1424 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,920 NEURODIVERSITY AND MORE BROADLY 1425 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,720 FOR THIS NEW AG PANEL ON 1426 00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:56,200 NEURODIVERSITY? 1427 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,760 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT 1428 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,000 QUESTION. 1429 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,920 IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT ONE AND 1430 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,200 SO RELEVANT IN THE CONTEXT OF A 1431 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,200 LOT OF THE EMERGING NEUROSCIENCE 1432 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,560 AND NEURO TECHNOLOGY TODAY. 1433 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,000 THIS AREA IS AN AREA THAT WE'RE 1434 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000 HEARING A LOT ABOUT, ESPECIALLY 1435 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,400 AS NEW TECHNIQUES FOR GENETIC 1436 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,960 TESTING AND PRE SCREENING IN 1437 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,800 GENETIC TESTING ARE COMING 1438 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,480 ON-LINE FOR BOTH PSYCHIATRIC AS 1439 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,320 WELL AS NEUROLOGICAL DISORDERS. 1440 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,000 AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS 1441 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,920 THAT WE'RE FINDING IS HOW 1442 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,320 CRITICAL IT IS TO HAVE 1443 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,080 MEANINGFUL BIDIRECTIONAL 1444 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,800 ENGAGEMENT BY PATIENTS AND 1445 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,680 FAMILIES SO I THINK THAT 1446 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,600 THINKING ABOUT NEURODIVERSITY IS 1447 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,880 GOING TO REQUIRE A 1448 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,000 MULTI-STAKEHOLDER PATIENT AND 1449 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:59,760 FAMILIAL ORIENTATION FACING 1450 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,000 THESE NEW TECHNIQUES THAT ARE 1451 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,040 COMING ON-LINE. 1452 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,760 THERE'S MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT, 1453 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,400 BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS 1454 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,760 THAT WE'RE SPEAKING WITH OTHERS 1455 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,080 ABOUT BECAUSE WE SEE SOME OF THE 1456 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,600 NEUROSCIENCE LARGE INITIATIVES 1457 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,560 THAT ARE STRUGGLING AND THEY'RE 1458 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,920 STRUGGLING AND NAVIGATING THIS 1459 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,040 AND A KEY ASPECT IS THAT 1460 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,920 ENGAGEMENT COMPONENT. 1461 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,200 >> ONE THING AT WENDY CHUNG IS 1462 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,280 THINKING ABOUT STRENGTH IN 1463 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,680 AUTISM AND HASN'T COME PUBLICLY 1464 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,760 BUT THEY HAD A MEETING ABOUT 1465 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,400 THAT RECENTLY SO IT'S GREAT TO 1466 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:33,600 HEAR. 1467 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:33,920 THANK YOU. 1468 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,400 >> YES. 1469 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,760 ABSOLUTELY. 1470 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,640 >> THANK YOU FOR AN INSPIRING 1471 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,200 AND TERRIFIC PRESENTATION. 1472 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,840 I WORK WITH UNDERGRAD WAD AND 1473 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,920 GRAD WAD STUDENTS IN DISCUSSIONS 1474 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,800 OF SCIENCE ETHICS AND SOCIETY 1475 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,200 THROUGH COURSES AND THE DANA 1476 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,840 FOUNDATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A 1477 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,240 GO-TO PLACE FOR RESOURCES. 1478 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,640 I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS YOU CAN 1479 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,680 ANSWER ONE OR BOTH. 1480 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,840 THEY'RE RELATED. 1481 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,680 THE FIRST S. WE ALL TALK A LOT 1482 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,520 ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT 1483 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,920 IT'S NOT EASY. 1484 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,520 SO, I WONDER IF YOU HAVE SOME 1485 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,240 THOUGHTS AND I'M INTERESTING 1486 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:07,480 WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST 1487 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,040 DIFFICULT ASPECT OF THAT? 1488 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,720 AND SECOND, IS THE DANA 1489 00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:13,920 PARTNERING WITH STUDENT 1490 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,280 ORGANIZATIONS? 1491 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,960 THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM OUT 1492 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:17,160 THERE. 1493 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:17,920 STUDENT PUGWASH FOR EXAMPLE, 1494 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,000 THEIR ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROMOTE 1495 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,920 STUDENTS SUCH AS AB RA CAMS, ARE 1496 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,520 YOU WORKING TO BUILD TIES WITH 1497 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,520 THOSE ORGANIZATIONS? 1498 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,240 >> YES, THANK YOU. 1499 00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,440 THANK YOU FOR ALSO SHARING ABOUT 1500 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,480 YOUR INTEREST IN EDUCATION AND 1501 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,880 TRAINING ON ETHICAL AND SOCIETAL 1502 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,200 ISSUES IN NEUROSCIENCE. 1503 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,200 I LOVE TO FOLLOW-UP WITH YOU 1504 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,520 MORE ABOUT THAT. 1505 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,520 YES, SO, YOUR SECOND QUESTION 1506 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,560 WAS ABOUT WHAT'S MOST 1507 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,560 CHALLENGING ABOUT COMMUNITY 1508 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,080 ENGAGEMENT? 1509 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,520 IT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION AND 1510 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,640 ONE OF THE NETWORKS, ONE OF THE 1511 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,520 COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY 1512 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,160 LOOKING TO FOR LEARNING IN THIS 1513 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,320 AREA IS CALLED THE CIVIC SCIENCE 1514 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,360 FELLOWS NETWORK, WHICH CLAIRE, 1515 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,120 WHO I MENTIONED, IS A PART OF. 1516 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,280 THEY INCLUDE GROUPS LIKE CNCI 1517 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,560 PUERTO RICO, THEY INCLUDE GROUPS 1518 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,240 THAT ARE WORKING WITH 1519 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:16,520 ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SACKNAS AND 1520 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,760 WE'RE LEARNING A LOT ABOUT 1521 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,520 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT 1522 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,200 CHALLENGES AND ALSO THE 1523 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,760 IMPORTANCE OF TRUST-BUILDING AND 1524 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,880 MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. 1525 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,280 AND SO, THE OTHER ASPECT IS IT 1526 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,880 REALLY TAKES TIME, RIGHT. 1527 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,800 THESE ARE NOT PACKAGED ONE AND 1528 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,560 DONE KINDS OF THINGS. 1529 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,680 IT REQUIRES A GREAT DEAL OF 1530 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,360 TRUST-BUILDING BETWEEN THE 1531 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,920 RESEARCHERS COMMUNITY, THE 1532 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,000 EMBASSADORS FOR THE PUBLIC 1533 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,160 OUTREACH PROGRAM, AS WELL AS 1534 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,600 THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY. 1535 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,200 SO I THINK IT HAS TO BE 1536 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,880 SUSTAINED AND ONE OF THE THINGS 1537 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,080 THAT WE HAVE LEARNED THAT IS 1538 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,440 ANOTHER CHALLENGE IS RELATED TO 1539 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,720 THE NAS REPORT QUOTE THAT I 1540 00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:56,560 MENTIONED THAT WE CURRENTLY LACK 1541 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,760 EFFECTIVE MECHANISMS FOR 1542 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,040 BIDIRECTIONAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT 1543 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,200 IS THAT COMMITTEE ENGAGEMENT 1544 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,600 THESE TO BE DONE WELL, IT SHOULD 1545 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,840 BE SUSTAINED. 1546 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,480 SO THESE ARE COME OF THE 1547 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,320 CHALLENGE WE SEE FIND IN THIS 1548 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,080 WORK BUT IT'S NO LESS IMPORTANT 1549 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,600 AND SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL, 1550 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,040 EVEN IF THEY SERVE AS CATALYTIC 1551 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,680 MODELS THAT CAN BE SCALED TO 1552 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,600 OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE 1553 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,280 DIFFERENT SETS OF NEEDS AND 1554 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:19,520 VALUES. 1555 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,120 THE THIRD QUESTION, I'M SORRY, 1556 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,920 YOUR THIRD QUESTION, WOULD YOU 1557 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,200 REMIND ME? 1558 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,800 >> I WAS ASKING GENERALLY BEEN 1559 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:27,960 COMMUNITY, REACHING OUT TO WHAT 1560 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,400 WE CALL THE GENERAL PUBLIC, 1561 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,560 WHICH IS I THINK A VAGUE AND 1562 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,200 STRANGE TERM BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO 1563 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,080 PART OF THAT, DEPENDING ON 1564 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,760 RELATIONSHIP TO AN ISSUE. 1565 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,440 JUST WORKING WITH STUDENTS, 1566 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,520 PARTNERING WITH STUDENTS, 1567 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,040 REACHING OUT TO STUDENT 1568 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,120 ORGANIZATIONS, BECAUSE I THINK 1569 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,680 THE LINK AS AN EDUCATOR BETWEEN 1570 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,880 US AND COMMUNITY IS OUR 1571 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,160 STUDENTS. 1572 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,680 I WORK A LOT WITH NATIVE 1573 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,720 AMERICAN STUDENTS AND IF YOU 1574 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,400 WORK WITH THE NATIVE COMMUNITY 1575 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,120 TO BUILD TRUST, YOU REACH A 1576 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,520 STUDENT, YOU REACH THEIR FAMILY. 1577 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,720 AND IT'S SUSTAINED AND IT TAKES 1578 00:54:57,720 --> 00:54:58,800 A LOT OF TIME TO BUILD. 1579 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,000 I DON'T THINK PEOPLE RECOGNIZE 1580 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,720 HOW LONG IT TAKES TO BUILD THAT 1581 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:03,920 TRUST. 1582 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,400 >> I'M SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP 1583 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,360 THAT POINT BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE 1584 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,400 THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE 1585 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,800 DIRECTIONS OF THE DANA 1586 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,080 FOUNDATION, WHAT WE'RE BUILDING 1587 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,480 OUTWARD AS WE LOOK TO THE 1588 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,800 FUTURE, WE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT 1589 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,600 THE K-12 FOCUS OF THE EDUCATION 1590 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,080 AND OUTREACH WORK OF THE PAST IS 1591 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,880 ALSO A VEHICLE FOR THAT 1592 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,680 ENGAGEMENT AND AS MENTIONED THE 1593 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,120 KINDS OF INFORMATION THAT 1594 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,680 STUDENTS BRING HOME TO THEIR 1595 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,560 FAMILIES, IS REALLY A DIRECT 1596 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,000 FORUM OF THAT ENGAGEMENT TO 1597 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,520 SPARK THE RELEVANCE OF BRAIN 1598 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,960 SCIENCE WITHIN THE FAMILY 1599 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,120 CONTEXT, RIGHT. 1600 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,360 IT BRINGS IT HOME. 1601 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,520 SO, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 1602 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,040 I ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR MENTION 1603 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,600 OF ENGAGEMENT WITH INDIGENOUS 1604 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,360 POPULATIONS AS WELL BECAUSE I 1605 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,640 THINK THAT EACH OF THESE 1606 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,840 DIFFERENT SETTINGS, THESE 1607 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,920 DIFFERENT COMMUNITY SETTINGS, 1608 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,560 COULD REALLY SERVE AS CATALYTIC 1609 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,600 MODELS FOR US TO LEARN FROM. 1610 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,480 >> JOHN, LAST WORD. 1611 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,600 >> THANK YOU. 1612 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,440 THANK YOU CAROLINE FOR A GREAT 1613 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,240 PRESENTATION AND IT'S REALLY 1614 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:03,520 WONDERFUL TO SEE THE DIRECTIONS 1615 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,720 IN WHICH YOU ARE TAKING THE DANA 1616 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:06,240 FOUNDATION. 1617 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,000 WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU HERE 1618 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,960 ON NEWG AND I'M ALSO DELIGHTED 1619 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,480 TO HAVE THE DANA FOUNDATION IN 1620 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,000 THE PARTNER OF THE BRAIN 1621 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,280 INITIATIVE ALLIANCE. 1622 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:15,840 MY QUESTION SLASH STATEMENT 1623 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,680 FOLLOWS UP TO THE PREVIOUS ONES 1624 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,800 WILL ENGAGEMENT AND THE IDEA AND 1625 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:26,840 THE CONCEPT O BIDIRECTIONAL 1626 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:27,800 ENGAGEMENT AND FOLLOWING ON THE 1627 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,200 QUESTION OF THE CHALLENGES. 1628 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,880 MY QUESTION IS AROUND -- I THINK 1629 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,240 IT'S NOT UNFAIR TO STATE THAT 1630 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:36,240 THESE DAYS, THERE IS A PERVASIVE 1631 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:39,320 UNHEALTHY SKEPTICISM OF SCIENCE 1632 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,360 AND NOT JUST SCIENCE BUT A 1633 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,200 SCIENTISTS AND ALSO KEYING OFF 1634 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,600 WHAT ELBA SAID WE'RE DIVERSE IN 1635 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,760 HERITAGE AND VIEW POINTS. 1636 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,240 WHAT STRATEGIES ARE YOU THINKING 1637 00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:55,040 ABOUT TO REACH PEOPLE TO ENGAGE 1638 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,360 THEM AND MEET THEM WHERE THEY 1639 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,720 ARE AND SEE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES 1640 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:00,760 TRULY AND HOW CAN WE ADDRESS 1641 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,240 THEM AND UNDERSTAND IT AND NOT 1642 00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:04,560 JUST UNDERSTAND BUT ACCEPT THEM 1643 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,160 TO WHATEVER DEGREE POSSIBLE AND 1644 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,920 TO TRY TO HELP MOVE THE 1645 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,080 UNDERSTANDING TO BERET BETTER 1646 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:11,280 PLACE. 1647 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,720 >> JOHN, THIS IS SUCH A 1648 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:13,440 FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE. 1649 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,560 I THINK FACING ALL OF SCIENCE 1650 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,200 AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 1651 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,200 WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT REALLY 1652 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,280 DEEPLY AT THE DANA FOUNDATION IS 1653 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,920 HOW DID WE APPROACH OUR WORK 1654 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,960 KNOWING THIS IS JUST A LAYER 1655 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,320 THAT SPANS ACROSS ALL OF SCIENCE 1656 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,880 AND SORT OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN 1657 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,520 SCIENCE AND SOCIETY. 1658 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,000 , WHICH ACTUALLY AT A DEEPER 1659 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,760 LEVEL, THERE'S BEEN A REALLY 1660 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,760 STRONG HISTORY SPANNING BACK TO 1661 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,320 THE BUSH REPORT WHERE THESE HAVE 1662 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,360 BEEN SOMEWHAT SILOED AND 1663 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,960 SEPARATE ASPECTS OF SOCIETY. 1664 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,760 SCIENCE AND SOCIETY, WHEN IN 1665 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,200 FACT SCIENCE IS A SOCIETAL 1666 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:52,680 ACTIVITY. 1667 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,560 THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORICAL 1668 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,960 ASPECT AND CONTRIBUTION TO THAT. 1669 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,360 AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT 1670 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,800 ONE WAY WE LOOK AT THIS IN THE 1671 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,680 DANA FOUNDATION AND IT'S MAYBE 1672 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,680 ON TWO LEVELS AND SO ONE IS 1673 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,080 THINKING ABOUT THE BROADER 1674 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,240 COMMUNITY AND SCIENCE 1675 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,200 STAKEHOLDERS SO AS I MENTIONED 1676 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,080 EARLIER, THE DANA FOUNDATION IS 1677 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,720 PART OF THIS ORGANIZATION CALLED 1678 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,120 THE SCIENCE PHILANTHROPY 1679 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,640 ALLIANCE WHICH WORKS CLOSELY 1680 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,240 WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS 1681 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,160 INCLUDING THE NATIONAL ACADEMY 1682 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,440 OF SCIENCE AND THEIR COMMITTEE 1683 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,720 ON MISINFORMATION AND SO, 1684 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,760 THERE'S SORT OF A RECOGNITION IF 1685 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,320 YOU WILL AMONG MANY WITHIN THE 1686 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,160 SCIENCE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE 1687 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,280 TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT 1688 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,680 AND THIS IS A CHALLENGE THAT 1689 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,680 WE'RE ALL FACING IN ORDER TO 1690 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,880 SUPPORT THE ADVANCEMENT OF 1691 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,720 SCIENCE SO I THINK PART OF THAT 1692 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,520 IS VERY MUCH MULTI-STAKEHOLDERS 1693 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,680 AND CROSSFIELD AND AND THEN I 1694 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,760 THINK THE OTHER ASPECT IS MORE 1695 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,600 SPECIFIC TO THE DIN A FOUNDATION 1696 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,400 WORK AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OUR 1697 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,920 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WORK, IT'S 1698 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,560 REALLY IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT 1699 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,160 IT IN AREAS THAT ARE TANGIBLE 1700 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,560 AND ACCESSIBLE TO SOME DEGREE SO 1701 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,920 SIMILAR TO WHAT ELBA MENTIONED 1702 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,160 TO, THE K-12 AGE GROUP AND 1703 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,680 HAVING A READY, SET OF STUDENTS 1704 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,120 TO BE ABLE TO FAKE HOME THE 1705 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,520 RELEVANCE OF NEUROSCIENCE AND 1706 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,880 INTRODUCE IT INTO THAT SETTING 1707 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,280 IT'S ONE EXAMPLE OF BEING ABLE 1708 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,120 TO REACH PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. 1709 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,120 THESE CONCEPTS THAT ARE RELEVANT 1710 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,080 TO DAILY LIFE. 1711 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,840 THE OTHER ASPECT THAT RELATES TO 1712 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,040 PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS THINKING 1713 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,720 ABOUT THE SECTORS OF THE PUBLIC 1714 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,760 THAT ALREADY INTERFACE WITH 1715 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,400 NEUROSCIENCE, EVEN IN THE 1716 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,680 PROFESSIONAL SETTING, THIS COULD 1717 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,680 BE THE JUDICIARY, SCIENCE 1718 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:36,520 COMMUTE CATERS AS WELL AS 1719 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,400 REGULATORS AND SO AGAIN, 1720 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,600 THINKING ABOUT THIS APPROACH 1721 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,720 THAT IS ALSO FEASIBLE AND COULD 1722 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,720 CATALYZE OTHER MODELS, IF WE'RE 1723 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,600 ABLE TO ACCESS AND PROVIDE 1724 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,120 GREATER UNDERSTANDING AND 1725 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,160 ENGAGEMENT IF THESE SECTORS OF 1726 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,040 THE PUBLIC THAT ARE REALLY 1727 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,680 ASKING FOR MORE RESOURCES AND 1728 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,800 TRAINING IN UNDERSTANDING IN 1729 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,120 NEUROSCIENCE THAT'S ANOTHER 1730 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,800 INROAD FOR EFFECTIVE PUBLIC 1731 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,680 ENGAGEMENT SO I WOULD SAY IT'S A 1732 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,440 TWO-LEVELS, ONE IS REALLY A 1733 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,400 COMMUNITY WIDE, A COMMUNITY WIDE 1734 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,200 NEED AND THE OTHER ONE IS 1735 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,120 THINKING ABOUT HOW THE WORK THAT 1736 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,840 WE AND OUR PARTNERS DO CAN BE 1737 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,920 CACATALYTIC WITHIN CERTAIN SECTS 1738 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:17,440 OF THE PUBLIC. 1739 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,120 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I LOOK 1740 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,720 FORWARD TO LOTS MORE DISCUSSIONS 1741 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,880 ABOUT THINGS THAT DA DANA IS DG 1742 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,200 AND INTERACTION S WITH THE NEWG. 1743 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:33,120 I NEED TO TURN IT OVER TO HANK 1744 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,960 AND SASKIA, SORRY FOR THE DELAY. 1745 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,160 >> THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN 1746 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,480 DOING IN THE NEW MEETINGS FOR A 1747 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,360 LONG TIME, WHEN WE GET THE NEW 1748 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,240 AWARDS THAT THE BRAIN 1749 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:43,960 INITIATIVES MADE, STAFF LOOKS 1750 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,640 THROUGH THEM FOR THINGS THAT MAY 1751 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,960 HAVE SOME ETHICS, SOME NEURO 1752 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,560 ETHICAL IMPLICATIONS AND THEY 1753 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,840 THEN GET SENT OFF TO VARIOUS 1754 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,080 NEWG MEMBERS TO TAKE A LOOK AND 1755 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,400 SEE WHAT THEY THINK. 1756 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,200 SO I'D LIKE TO START BY THANKING 1757 01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,400 ALL THE NEWG MEMBERS WHO DID 1758 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,920 REVIEW THESE AND THANKING SASKIA 1759 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,160 HENDRIKS FOR THE ANALYSIS THAT 1760 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,840 SHE'S ABOUT TO PRESENT ABOUT THE 1761 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,480 BRAIN GRANTS AWARDED IN FISCAL 1762 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:12,760 YEAR 2021. 1763 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,120 >> THANK YOU, HANK. 1764 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,400 SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT 1765 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,720 THE ANNUAL SCAN OF THE NIH BRAIN 1766 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,560 GRANTS AWARDED IN THE PAST 1767 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,240 FISCAL YEAR. 1768 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,680 SO, WE'VE HAD 221 NEW GRANTS 1769 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:33,760 THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED AND OF 1770 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,280 THOSE 38 INVOLVED HUMAN SUBJECTS 1771 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:35,520 RESEARCH. 1772 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,800 WE ALWAYS LOOK AT HOW MANY 1773 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,520 GRANTS INVOLVE HUMAN SUBJECTS 1774 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:40,960 RESEARCH. 1775 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,280 IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY STABLE OVER 1776 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,000 THE LAST FIVE YEARS. 1777 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,400 BOTH IN ABSOLUTE TERMS, THAT'S 1778 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,200 THE ORANGE GRAPH AS WELL AS THE 1779 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,720 RELATIVE TERMS THAT'S THE GREEN 1780 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:52,000 GRAPH. 1781 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,880 SO, ONE OF THE CHARGES OF THE 1782 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,640 NEUROETHICS WORKING GROUP IS TO 1783 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,680 HELP US IN SCANNING THAT BRAIN 1784 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,640 PORTFOLIO TO IDENTIFY ETHICAL 1785 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,600 CHARGES THAT MAY BENEFIT FROM 1786 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:03,000 CONSIDERATION. 1787 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,680 SO, TO REDUCE THE BURDEN TO NEWG 1788 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,120 MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE 1789 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,160 NEUROETHICS TEAM OF BRAIN HAVE 1790 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,160 REVIEWED THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE 1791 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,760 ABSTRACT AND WE FOUND THAT 128 1792 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,360 GRANTS WHY UNLIKELY TO RAISE 1793 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,160 ETHICAL QUESTIONS AND THE OTHER 1794 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,800 GRANTS WERE DISSEMINATED AMONG 1795 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,680 THE NEWG MEMBERS AND IT WAS 1796 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,120 REVIEWED BY ONE OR TWO NEWG 1797 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,400 MEMBERS FOR ETHICAL CHALLENGES. 1798 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:32,200 SO WE RECEIVED WRITTEN RESPONSES 1799 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,160 OF THE NEWG MEMBERS AND CONTENT 1800 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,480 ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY THE THEMES 1801 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,280 OF ETHICAL CHALLENGES BASED ON 1802 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,400 THESE RESPONSES. 1803 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,040 FOR 19 GRANTS, NEWG MEMBERS DID 1804 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,160 NOT IDENTIFY ANY ETHICAL 1805 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,480 CHALLENGES SO THIS ANALYSIS ARE 1806 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,040 COMMENTS ON THE REMAINING 72 1807 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:50,280 GRANTS. 1808 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,480 ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE HERE 1809 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,360 IS ALL REVIEWS WERE BASED ON 1810 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,680 PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ABSTRACTS AND 1811 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,600 I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT 1812 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,400 LIMITATION OF OUR ANALYSIS AND 1813 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,680 IT GOES IN TWO WAYS THAT IS 1814 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,480 POSSIBLE THAT THE CHALLENGES 1815 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,200 THAT NEWG MEMBERS IDENTIFIED 1816 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,760 HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN 1817 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,120 RESOLVED IN THE FULL PROJECTS. 1818 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,120 AND IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THE OTHER 1819 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:14,680 WAY AROUND. 1820 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:15,880 THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL 1821 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,320 QUESTIONS THAT COULD COME UP 1822 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:23,880 UPON REVIEW OF THE FULL PROTOCOL 1823 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:24,160 ENACTMENTS. 1824 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,840 I WANT TO LOOK AT THE OUTSET. 1825 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,520 IT COULD BE IN SEVERAL WAYS FOR 1826 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,520 EXAMPLE, WE COULD HAVE TOPICAL 1827 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,120 WORKSHOPS TO CREATE MORE CLARITY 1828 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,960 OR GUIDANCE ALSO ON TOPICS. 1829 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,880 AND THESE THEMES COULD INFORM 1830 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,760 FUTURE BRAIN NEUROETHICS 1831 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,280 RESEARCH FUNDING OR IT COULD 1832 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,280 INFORM ASPECTS OF THE BRAIN 1833 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,720 NEUROSCIENCE PORTFOLIO AND A FEW 1834 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,080 AREAS MAY MERIT DISCUSSION WITH 1835 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:49,480 RESEARCHERS. 1836 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,200 SO LET ME START AT THE OUTSET BY 1837 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,880 POINTING OUT THAT VARIOUS NEWG 1838 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,760 MEMBERS EXPRESS EXCITEMENT AND 1839 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,200 STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 1840 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,240 RESEARCH THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY 1841 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:01,440 BRAIN. 1842 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,240 IN TERMS OF THE ETHICAL 1843 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,720 CHALLENGES THE QUESTIONS THAT 1844 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,200 NEWG MEMBERS BROUGHT UP COULD BE 1845 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,840 GROUPED INTO TWO OVERARCHING 1846 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:11,240 CATEGORIES. 1847 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,480 FIRST, CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF 1848 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,480 HOW TO RESEARCH IS CONDUCTED. 1849 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:16,800 HOW DO WE CONDUCT THIS RESEARCH 1850 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,400 IN A ETHICAL WAY AND SECOND, 1851 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,800 CONSIDERATION OF THE LONG-TERM 1852 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,240 IMPLICATIONS OF THE RESEARCH AND 1853 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,520 IT'S PRODUCTS. 1854 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,120 INCLUDING TOOLS AND TECHNOLOGIES 1855 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,720 AND INDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT USE 1856 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,400 THE PRODUCTS, GROUPS AND 1857 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:32,640 SOCIETY. 1858 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,880 SO LET'S START WITH THE FIRST 1859 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:35,480 GROUP. 1860 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,600 CHALLENGES AND HOW TO CONNECT 1861 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,880 RESEARCH IN A MOST ETHICAL WAY. 1862 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,320 THIS IS THE TEAMS THAT CAME UP 1863 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,720 IN THE COMMENTS FROM THE NEWG 1864 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,280 MEMBERS AND I'LL GO OVER EACH OF 1865 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,080 THEM BRIEFLY AND IT'S THE TEAMS 1866 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,440 AND SHOWING HOW MANY TIMES THESE 1867 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,920 THEMES CAME UP AND HOW MANY 1868 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:55,560 DIFFERENT GRANTS. 1869 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,880 I WILL SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS 1870 01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,760 AN INTERESTING DATA POINT AS IT 1871 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,000 SHOWS SOMETHING ABOUT THE 1872 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,440 PREVALENCE OF CERTAIN CHALLENGES 1873 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,320 IN THE PORTFOLIO AND HOWEVER, I 1874 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,040 WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT 1875 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:10,880 NECESSARILY SUFFICIENT FOR 1876 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,920 DETERMINING THE PRIORITY OF EACH 1877 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,080 TOPICS FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE 1878 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,680 A ETHICAL ISSUE THAT COMES UP 1879 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,880 ALONG BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY 1880 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,520 BEEN DEALT WITH IN TERMS OF 1881 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,320 REGULATORY OR ETHICAL GUIDANCE. 1882 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,520 OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND, IT 1883 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,240 MIGHT BE ISSUES THAT COME UP 1884 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,120 ONLY IN A FEW GRANTS BUT ARE 1885 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,120 STILL REALLY IMPORTANT TO 1886 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:34,720 RESOLVE. 1887 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,440 SO, STARTING WITH THE GENERAL 1888 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,720 HUMAN SUBJECT CHALLENGES. 1889 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,480 FOR SEVERAL OF THE STUDIES, NEWG 1890 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,400 MEMBERS POINTED TO SEVERAL 1891 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,760 CLASSIC TYPES OF CHALLENGES AND 1892 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,920 ALSO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 1893 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,320 RECENT REGULATIONS IN THESE 1894 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,200 TYPES OF QUESTIONS ARE FAMILIAR, 1895 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,840 FROM OTHER TYPES OF CLINICAL 1896 01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,120 RESEARCH, THAT DOESN'T 1897 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,080 NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ALL OF 1898 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,400 THESE QUESTIONS RAISED BY NEWG 1899 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,120 MEMBERS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED AND 1900 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,760 IN FACT, THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS 1901 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,520 HERE WHERE THERE'S A NEED FORT 1902 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,200 FURTHER INTERPRETATION OR 1903 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,920 SPECIFICATION OF EXISTING 1904 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:14,440 GUIDANCE SO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC 1905 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,400 AREAS OF INTEREST THAT WERE 1906 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,040 MENTIONED INCLUDED RISK BENEFITS 1907 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,960 FOR PARTICIPANTS, FOR EXAMPLE, 1908 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,840 WHEN ARE WE READY TO CONDUCT 1909 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,680 STUDIES AND WHAT ARE ACCEPTABLE 1910 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,040 RISKS IN RESEARCH WITHOUT A 1911 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,840 PROCESS RESPECT OF BENEFIT FOR 1912 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:29,560 PARTICIPANTS? 1913 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:30,600 AND WHAT ARE THE EFFECTS OF 1914 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,040 CERTAIN INTERVENTIONS ON THE 1915 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:33,640 DEVELOPING FRAME? 1916 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,200 HOW MIGHT WE THINK ABOUT 1917 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,320 POTENTIAL A TYPICAL RISK OF 1918 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,240 BENEFITS AND FOR EXAMPLE, EFFECT 1919 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,200 OF PERSONALITY? 1920 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,440 AND WHAT POTENTIAL IS THERE TO 1921 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,800 MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS OF THE 1922 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,560 RESEARCH FOR THE PARTICIPANTS? 1923 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:49,720 QUESTIONS AROUND INFORMED 1924 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,160 CONSENT CAME UP INCLUDING HOW 1925 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,800 DID WE FRAME THE BENEFITS OF A 1926 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,240 PARTICULAR STUDY AND CONSENT? 1927 01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,560 AND QUESTIONS ABOUT RESEARCH 1928 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,000 CONDUCTED WITH MINORS AND FOR 1929 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,480 EXAMPLE, RESEARCH WITH PATIENTS 1930 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,240 THAT MAY LOOSE THE ABILITY TO 1931 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,800 CONSENT THROUGH OUT THE RESEARCH 1932 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:08,160 PROCESS. 1933 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,240 NOW THE TOPIC INCLUDED FOR OUR 1934 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,040 PARTICIPANT SELECTION, FOR 1935 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,080 EXAMPLE, THE APPROPRIATENESS OF 1936 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,840 INCLUDING HEALTHY VOLUNTEERS 1937 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,040 VERSUS PATIENTS AND THE 1938 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,440 INCLUSION OF MINORS IN THE 1939 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:20,640 STUDY. 1940 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,200 SOCIAL VALUE OF RESEARCH ALSO 1941 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,200 CAME UP. 1942 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,320 WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WILL 1943 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,840 BE THE MOST PROMISING 1944 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,640 INTERVENTION OR STUDY DESIGN, 1945 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,240 AND HOW TO BALANCE BETWEEN 1946 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,920 ANIMAL WELFARE AND PARTICIPATE 1947 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,520 INTEREST VERSUS OPTIMIZING 1948 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,200 SOCIAL VALUE AND CONSIDERING 1949 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,560 WHAT ENPLAN INFERENCES CAN BE DN 1950 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:46,280 FROM DATA. 1951 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,440 QUESTIONS CAME UP AS WELL ABOUT 1952 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,560 THE APPROPRIATE CONVERSATION OF 1953 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,080 RESEARCH PARTICIPANTS AND A NEED 1954 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,800 FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND 1955 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,000 SUPPORT, WHICH WE JUST HEARD 1956 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,960 ABOUT IN OUR LAST SESSION. 1957 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,040 OVER ALL, I'LL NOTE THAT 1958 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,480 COMPARED TO THE PREVALENCE OF 1959 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,040 HUMAN SUBJECTS CHARGES LAST 1960 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,000 YEAR, THERE WERE MORE THIS YEAR. 1961 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,480 IT WAS ALMOST DOUBLE ACTUALLY. 1962 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,080 SO THERE WAS AN INTERESTING 1963 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,600 POTENTIALLY INTERESTING DATA 1964 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:18,000 POINT. 1965 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,960 SO, NEXT IS ANIMAL RESEARCH 1966 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:21,440 EFFORTS. 1967 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:23,160 CHARGES RELATED TO DURING 1968 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,320 RESEARCH WITH ANIMALS MOSTLY 1969 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,200 CAME UP IN THE CONTEXT OF NOM 1970 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,480 NON HUMAN PRIMATE RESEARCH AND 1971 01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:30,840 ESPECIALLY IF IT INVOLVED GENOME 1972 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,080 EDITING AND THE QUESTIONS THAT 1973 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,960 CAME UP INCLUDED THINGS LIKE YOU 1974 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,840 HOW TO BALANCE RESEARCH WITH 1975 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:39,880 ANIMAL WELFARE AND MINIMIZING 1976 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,080 THE STRESS AND SUFFERING AND THE 1977 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,160 ANIMALS. 1978 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,120 MAXIMIZING SCIENTIFIC VALUE AND 1979 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,520 PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF THE 1980 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,600 RESEARCH SO SOME MEMBERS 1981 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,000 HIGHLIGHTED OVERSIGHT STRUCTURES 1982 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,760 AND LIKE THE TO ASSESS ANIMAL 1983 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,960 WELFARE ISSUES. 1984 01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:01,240 NEW MEMBERS BROUGHT UP 1985 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,760 CHALLENGES RELATED TO HUMAN 1986 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:03,400 RESEARCH DATA. 1987 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,040 THESE COULD BE CHALLENGES AROUND 1988 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,440 HAVING SENSITIVE TYPES OF DATA, 1989 01:09:06,440 --> 01:09:08,680 FOR EXAMPLE, DATA FROM CHILDREN, 1990 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,800 DATA ABOUT STIGMATIZED 1991 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,520 CONDITIONS, DATA AND RISK OF 1992 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,880 REIDENTIFICATION, FOR EXAMPLE, 1993 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,720 SOME QUESTIONS RAISED INCLUDED 1994 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,920 IS THERE A POTENTIAL FORENSIC 1995 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,960 UTILIZATION OF RECORDINGS CAN 1996 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,760 THEY BE SUBPOENAED? 1997 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,000 OR SOMETHING MEMBERS ASKED THE 1998 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,760 IMPORTANCE OF THE ABILITY TO 1999 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,360 TURN OFF RECORDINGS IN PRIVATE 2000 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:34,600 SETTINGS. 2001 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,360 OTHER QUESTIONS RAISED ENCLOUDED 2002 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,880 SECURITY ISSUES OF DATA AROUND 2003 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,280 DATA STORAGE AND TRANSFER AND 2004 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:42,400 ALSO QUESTIONS AROUND DATA 2005 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,280 SHARING WITH OTHER RESEARCHERS 2006 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:46,880 ALTHOUGH OF CLEAR SCIENTIFIC 2007 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,200 VALUE, THERE'S A NEED TO 2008 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,680 CONSIDER ACCESS THAT THEY USE 2009 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,400 WITH THIS TYPE OF DATA. 2010 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,040 QUESTIONS AROUND THE RETURN OF 2011 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,800 RESEARCH RESULTS ALSO CAME UP. 2012 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,760 WHAT IF YOU IDENTIFIED 2013 01:09:58,760 --> 01:09:59,920 PREDICTORS IN YOUR RESEARCH 2014 01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:01,280 STUDY AND YOU ARE IN THE EARLY 2015 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,840 STAGE OF THE SCIENCE WITH LITTLE 2016 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,960 CERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT THESE 2017 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,280 PREDICTORS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE 2018 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,840 HEALTH OF A PATIENT. 2019 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,600 SHOULD YOU RETURN THOSE RESULTS 2020 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,960 TO PARTICIPANTS? 2021 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:18,600 HOW DOES IT PLAY A ROLE IN THOSE 2022 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:25,080 QUESTIONS? 2023 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,360 GO ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE RISK 2024 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,280 PROVIDING UNCERTAIN INFORMATION. 2025 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,200 AND SOME QUESTIONS CAME UP ABOUT 2026 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:33,600 WHO OWNS THE DATA. 2027 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,000 IS IT THE SUBJECTS, THE 2028 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,640 COMPANIES OR THE ACADEMIC 2029 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,280 INSTITUTIONS? 2030 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,400 WHAT ARE FOUNDERS? 2031 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,640 FOR VARIOUS STUDIES, NEWG 2032 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,520 MEMBERS BROUGHT UP IN THIS STUDY 2033 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:47,840 IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO ENSURE 2034 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,600 THAT RESEARCH PARTICIPANTS WILL 2035 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,920 BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OVER 2036 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,760 ALL POPULATION AND THE STUDY 2037 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,280 ACROSS FACTORS OF AGE, GENDER, 2038 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,520 RACE, ETHNICITY, SOCIOECONOMIC 2039 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,240 STATUS, NEURODIVERSITY AND 2040 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:01,480 OTHERS. 2041 01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:04,320 IN THIS CASES, IT MAY BE NEED 2042 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,560 FOR EFFORTS TO INCLUDE UNDER 2043 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,480 REPRESENTED MINORITIES. 2044 01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:11,640 THE EXAMPLE IS ESPECIALLY 2045 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:12,520 IMPORTANT WHEN ESTABLISH WHAT IS 2046 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,120 IS NORMAL PHYSIOLOGY AND OR 2047 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,400 CREATING A LARGE DATABASE THAT 2048 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,320 WILL BE USED AS A RESEARCH FOR 2049 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,040 FUTURE STUDIES. 2050 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,040 SOME STUDIES NEWG MEMBERS 2051 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,600 HIGHLIGHTED POTENTIAL 2052 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,480 DIFFERENCES ACROSS FOR CAPITAL 2053 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:29,680 LANGUAGE AND CULTURES WHEN 2054 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:30,560 ANALYZING DATA. 2055 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,640 AND ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP 2056 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:38,000 FOR A COUPLE OF HUMAN STUDIES IS 2057 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:44,000 FOR EXAMPLE, INDIVIDUALS WITH AN 2058 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,040 INDEVI MAY WANT TO KEEP IT SO 2059 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,000 THEY MAY NEED LONG-TERM CARE OR 2060 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:48,600 MAINTENANCE. 2061 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,360 WE HELD A WORKSHOP ON THE TOPIC 2062 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:59,680 IN MAY AND Dr. NINA SHU WILL 2063 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,600 GIVE US AN EXAMPLE LATER THIS 2064 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:02,040 AFTERNOON. 2065 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:06,320 BRAIN MODELS ALSO CAME UP TO 2066 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,560 NEWG MEMBERS MENTIONED IT THEY 2067 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:09,840 INTERESTING IF ORGANIZED 2068 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,520 DEVELOPED FURTHER FOR EXAMPLE IF 2069 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,960 THEY SHOW CAPACITY OF ETHICAL 2070 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,320 ISSUES AND SUCH AS STRUCTURES 2071 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,560 AND CONNECTIVITY AND THAT COULD 2072 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,240 BE PRE CURSERS TO MENTAL STATES 2073 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:20,600 AND SO ON. 2074 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,000 ON THIS BROUGHT UP THE NEED TO 2075 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,600 CONSIDER HOW TO APPROPRIATELY 2076 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,560 GET CONTENT FOR THE INTEGRATION 2077 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,080 OF ORGANOIDS FROM THE HUMANS 2078 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,520 WHICH THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN 2079 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:31,720 LEFT. 2080 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,400 LET'S CONSIDER THE THEMES THAT 2081 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,760 CAME UP IN RELATION TO THE 2082 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,120 LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF THE 2083 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,320 RESEARCH AND IT'S PRODUCTS AND 2084 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:40,800 HOW IT MAY INDIVIDUALS, GROUPS 2085 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,240 AND SOCIETIES. 2086 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,360 THE PREVALENCE AND AS YOU CAN 2087 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,040 TELL, THIS CHARGES CAME UP LESS 2088 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,800 OFTEN AS COMPARED TO THE 2089 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,680 RESEARCH THAT THESE CHALLENGES 2090 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,800 AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE 2091 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,600 THEM OF LESS IMPORTANCE OR 2092 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,680 WORTHY OF ATTENTION. 2093 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,280 SO THE FIRST THING IS ABOUT 2094 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,720 IMPROVED HUMAN BRAIN MODULATION 2095 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,280 SO HERE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS 2096 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,480 IN HUMAN BRAIN MODULATION OR IN 2097 01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:09,320 OUR UNDERSTANDING OF BRAIN 2098 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,040 FUNCTION, WHICH MAY ENABLE 2099 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,880 MODULATION OF SETTINGS MAY LEAD 2100 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,240 TO SEVERAL THINGS INCLUDING, FOR 2101 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,960 EXAMPLE, SO-CALLED AA KIP TAL 2102 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,880 RISK AND TERMS IN AGENCY, 2103 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,560 IDENTITY, AUTHENTICITY AND ALSO 2104 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,320 THE MOOD OF BEHAVIOR AND MAYBE 2105 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:29,600 EVEN THE DECISION-MAKING 2106 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,000 PROCESSES, MEMORIES AND SO ON. 2107 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,680 SO WHAT EXTENT ARE WE 2108 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:34,480 INTERFERING WITH THESE? 2109 01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:39,960 WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON PATIENTS? 2110 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,560 SECOND, THIS TECHNOLOGIES MAY 2111 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,160 HAVE AFFECTS BEYOND THOSE ON THE 2112 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:44,840 PATIENTS WHO WILL USE THEM. 2113 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,960 FOR EXAMPLE, INCREASING OUT OUR 2114 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,480 ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND AND 2115 01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:50,160 MODULATE MOTIONS, 2116 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:51,320 DECISION-MAKING, AND SO ON AND 2117 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,440 MAY LEAD US TO ADAPT TO REDEFINE 2118 01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:58,360 WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 2119 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,120 CONCEPTS IKE AGENCY OR IDENTITY 2120 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,600 AND AUTONOMY. 2121 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,480 THERAPY THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED 2122 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:09,880 FOR COGNITIVE OR MOOD DISORDERS 2123 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,640 OFFER IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF 2124 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,480 IMPROVING HEALTH BUT AS SOME 2125 01:14:13,480 --> 01:14:14,720 NEWG MEMBERS POINTED OUT THE 2126 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,920 SAME TECHNOLOGY MAY OVER TIME BE 2127 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,920 USED FOR NON THERAPEUTIC 2128 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,720 PURPOSES FOR ENHANCEMENT OR TO 2129 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,040 PROVIDE EVIDENCE IN THE LEGAL 2130 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:23,400 SYSTEM. 2131 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,400 THIS RAISES QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT 2132 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,760 USES ARE APPROPRIATE? 2133 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,360 WHAT IF ANYTHING DO WE NEED TO 2134 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,000 CONSIDER ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL 2135 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,320 USERS NOW AS WE'RE DEVELOPING 2136 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,600 THESE TECHNOLOGIES? 2137 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,920 THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEURAL 2138 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,440 CORRELATES FOR BEHAVIOR 2139 01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:40,840 PHENOTYPES AND NEURO COGNITIVE 2140 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:41,920 FUNCTION AND DISEASE ESPECIALLY 2141 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,360 IF PREDICTIVE, MAY IMPACT FUTURE 2142 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,680 PATIENTS IN MULTIPLE WAYS. 2143 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,000 IT MAY PROVIDE IMPORTANT HEALTH 2144 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:48,280 BENEFITS. 2145 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:49,840 FOR EXAMPLE, EARLY TREATMENT 2146 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,880 OPTIONS AVAILABLE. 2147 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,400 BUT IT MAY ALSO INVOLVE RISKS 2148 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,120 INCLUDING PSYCHOSOCIAL RISK, 2149 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,480 ECONOMIC RISK, LEGAL RISK WHICH 2150 01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:01,120 RAISES THE QUESTION OF WHETHER 2151 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,800 THINGS LIKE STIGMA OR INSURE 2152 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,920 ABILITY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED 2153 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,040 THAT THIS STAGE OF THE 2154 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,600 DEVELOPMENT AND AS IT GOES INTO 2155 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,000 ALL THE TECHNOLOGIES ARE 2156 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,520 INTEGRATED INTO SOCIETY. 2157 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,520 SO PRIVACY AND SECURITY IS NOT 2158 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,520 JUST A CONCERN IN RELATIONSHIP 2159 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,280 TO THE STUDY WE DISCUSSED BEFORE 2160 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,040 BUT IT REMAINS A TOPIC THAT 2161 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,240 NEEDS ATTENTION FOR THE TOOLS 2162 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,840 WE'RE DEVELOPING AND ALSO WE'RE 2163 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:28,320 INFLUENCING. 2164 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:33,000 SO GENERALLY SPEAKING AS 2165 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,080 TECHNOLOGY TOOLS IMPROVE IT'S 2166 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,520 MORE SENSITIVE BECAUSE WE CAN 2167 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:36,960 LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PERSON. 2168 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,040 WHICH RAISES MORE PRIVACY 2169 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,760 CONCERNS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN 2170 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,800 THINK OF PHENOTYPES AND NEURAL 2171 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,800 CORRELATES AND INNOVATIVE 2172 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:49,800 DEVICES MAY RAISE QUESTIONS 2173 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:50,880 ABOUT SECURITY FOR EXAMPLE IF 2174 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,800 THERE'S WIRELESS TRANSMISSION OF 2175 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,240 DATA AND DATA SHARING RACES 2176 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,440 QUESTIONS INCLUDING THE SECURITY 2177 01:15:57,440 --> 01:15:59,840 OF PLATFORMS AND THE ANALYSIS 2178 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,120 SOFTWARE, THE IMPACT OF BIG DATA 2179 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,440 ON THE RE-IDENTIFY ABILITY RISK, 2180 01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:09,960 HOW TO CONTROL FOR BUY SASSED 2181 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,800 DATASETS AND IMPROVED ACCESS TO 2182 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:12,600 DATA. 2183 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,800 THERE WERE TWO RISK AND THE 2184 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,680 POTENTIAL REDEFINITION OF SIGHS 2185 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,840 AT TRICK ILLNESS SYMPTOMOLOGY 2186 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,240 WHICH MAY RAISE IMPORTANT 2187 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,720 ETHICAL QUESTIONS AND HAVE 2188 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,040 IMPLICATIONS FOR PATIENTS AS 2189 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,600 WELL AS YOU ARE INCREASED 2190 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,120 UNDERSTANDING OF HERITABILITY OF 2191 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:38,560 COGNITIVE TRAITS AND IMPACTS ON 2192 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:48,720 SOCIETY. 2193 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,360 AND THE FREQUENCY OF THESE 2194 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,680 ISSUES SEEMS PRETTY STABLE 2195 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,480 EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF INSTANCES 2196 01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:58,400 I MENTIONED IN THIS TALK. 2197 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,880 COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. 2198 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,960 SO, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT MAYBE 2199 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,720 COMPILING A FIVE-YEARS WORTH OF 2200 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:06,880 PORTFOLIOS IN THE WORKING GROUP 2201 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,200 TO GET A SENSE OF HISTORICAL 2202 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,600 TRENDS IN THE TEAMS BUT WE 2203 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,280 HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. 2204 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:17,560 SO, I'M CLOSING WITH SOME 2205 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:17,960 THOUGHTS. 2206 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,000 THAT WE WOULD LOVE NEWG INPUT 2207 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:20,600 ON. 2208 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:21,880 ARE THERE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS 2209 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,400 THAT WE MAY WISH TO TAKE IN? 2210 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,200 WHAT SHOULD THE NEWG DO WITH 2211 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,040 THESE THEMES AND HOW CAN WE AS 2212 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,440 ALWAYS IMPROVE THIS PROCESS? 2213 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,880 SO, WITH THAT, I WOULD WELCOME 2214 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,920 ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. 2215 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:42,560 >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR 2216 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,400 SASKIA? 2217 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:45,400 NITAS. THAT A HAND UP? 2218 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,760 >> I'M TRYING TO FIND MY HAND 2219 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:49,000 REACTION. 2220 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:49,720 THANK YOU. 2221 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,440 THANK YOU, SASKIA, THIS WAS 2222 01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:53,320 GREAT AND REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE 2223 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,040 AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF KIND OF 2224 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,880 FIVE YEARS OF LOOKING ACROSS TO 2225 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,640 SEE WHAT SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE 2226 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:01,480 THAT ARISE. 2227 01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:03,040 IN PARTICULAR FOR FIGURING OUT 2228 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,120 WHERE WE HAVE GAPS IN THE KIND 2229 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,640 OF RECOMMENDATIONS OR WORKSHOPS 2230 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,320 THAT WE'VE REALLY TAKEN A DEEPER 2231 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,840 DIVE INTO, ONE, OF COURSE, THAT 2232 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,200 IS NEAR AND DEAR TO ME THAT 2233 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,800 WE'VE BEEN CIRCLING AROUND FOR A 2234 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,160 WHILE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES AROUND 2235 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,680 PRIVACY AS THE DATA FURTHER 2236 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:21,760 DEVELOPS AND IT WOULD BE USEFUL 2237 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,760 TO DO A DEEPER DIVE IN THAT. 2238 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:24,960 IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE 2239 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,400 THE CONSISTENCY OF THEMES YOU'VE 2240 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,040 PULLED OUT AND TO SEE CHANGES 2241 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,840 OVER TIME, THAT WE'RE SAYING IN 2242 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,520 THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS 2243 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:33,240 THAT WOULD BE NEAT TO LOOK AT 2244 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:34,920 WITH THE FIVE YEARS IS TO SEE 2245 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,120 WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE 2246 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,320 RECOGNIZING PULLING OUT AND 2247 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,360 SEEING MORE FREQUENTLY NOW 2248 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:45,040 VERSUS FIVE YEARSING AN AGO ANDT 2249 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,480 CHANGING WITH NEUROSCIENCE AND 2250 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:49,040 NEURO TECHNOLOGY AND I WONDER IF 2251 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,360 YOU HAVE, HAVING DONE THIS FOR A 2252 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,040 WHILE, IF YOU HAVE OFF THE CUFF 2253 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,240 IF YOU SEE ANY SHIFTS IN TRENDS 2254 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,240 OVER TIME THAW MIGHT WANT TO 2255 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,640 HIGHLIGHT FOR US? 2256 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:03,080 >> UM, SO I PREFER TO HAVE THE 2257 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:04,800 DATA IN FRONT OF ME SO I CAN 2258 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,800 GIVE YOU A TRUE ANSWER. 2259 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,880 >> OF COURSE, OF COURSE. 2260 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,240 >> ANYTHING THAT STRIKES YOU AS 2261 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,600 YOU LOOK ACROSS IT? 2262 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,800 >> THIS YEAR WE HAD MORE NEW 2263 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,080 COMMENTS ABOUT RESEARCH WITH 2264 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:18,360 MINORS. 2265 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:19,760 SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT 2266 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,040 ACTUALLY REPRESENTS AN INCREASE 2267 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,440 IN THE NUMBER OF STUDIES WITH 2268 01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:24,120 MINORS IN BRAIN. 2269 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,960 I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE 2270 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:26,160 NUMBERS. 2271 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,800 WE GOT MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THEM 2272 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,520 THIS YEAR. 2273 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,760 ANOTHER THING THIS WE HAD MORE 2274 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,000 THIS YEAR WAS CHALLENGES RELATED 2275 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,600 TO HUMAN SUBJECTS RESEARCH. 2276 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,640 LIKE THE FIRST BIG CATEGORY. 2277 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,200 AND YEAH, THOSE NUMBERS WERE 2278 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:44,040 SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THIS YEAR 2279 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,480 THAN LAST YEAR. 2280 01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:47,280 I DON'T HAVE IMMEDIATE 2281 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,240 EXPLANATION FOR THAT. 2282 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,680 THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING. 2283 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,960 >> THAT'S HELPFUL AND USEFUL FOR 2284 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,040 US TO DIVE INTO TO SEE THE GAPS 2285 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,040 OR WHAT WE HAVE THAT ARE LEADING 2286 01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:57,480 TO KIND OF GREATER 2287 01:19:57,480 --> 01:19:58,320 IDENTIFICATION OF THOSE ISSUES 2288 01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,560 SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 2289 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,560 IT'S TERRIFIC AND I KNOW YOU ARE 2290 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,760 MUCH MORE, I'M SURE, INTERESTED 2291 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,360 IN LOOKING AT THE DATA ITSELF SO 2292 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:05,560 I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT WHEN YOU 2293 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,400 HAVE A CHANCE TO DO SO. 2294 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:09,400 >> JIM -- 2295 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,800 >> THANK YOU, HANK. 2296 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,000 SASKIA, THANK YOU FOR THE 2297 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:13,280 OVERVIEW. 2298 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:14,920 YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB OF 2299 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,480 GETTING THIS IN ALL TOGETHER FOR 2300 01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:17,640 US. 2301 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,760 I GUESS THIS IS MORE A QUESTION 2302 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,080 FOR THE GENERAL GROUP. 2303 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:28,920 MAYBE FOR JANUARY AND ANDRO ANN 2304 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,200 PARTICULAR. 2305 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,760 IS THERE RATIONALE PROVIDING 2306 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,480 FEEDBACK TO THE INVESTIGATORS OF 2307 01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:33,960 THE GRANTS WITH THE ETHICAL 2308 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,160 ISSUES THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED 2309 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,480 WITH RESPECT TO THE GRANTS. 2310 01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:39,200 NOT THAT THEY HAVE AN ISSUE, BUT 2311 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,760 WOULD THAT HELP EDUCATE OUR 2312 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,280 INVESTIGATORS AS TO SOME OF THE 2313 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:44,960 NEUROETHICS CONSIDERATIONS THAT 2314 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:45,920 WE WOULD LIKE ALL OF THEM TO 2315 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,600 SORT OF KEEP IN MIND? 2316 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:55,840 >> IT'S A GOOD POINT, JIM. 2317 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,000 IT'S HAPPENING ORGANICALLY AND 2318 01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,680 LET ME COME BACK TO YOUR 2319 01:20:58,680 --> 01:20:58,960 QUESTION. 2320 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,320 IT'S HAPPENED ORGANICALLY TO 2321 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:00,960 SOME EXTENT. 2322 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,080 I MEAN, WE HAVE THIS RESEARCH 2323 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,400 OPPORTUNITIES IN HUMANS 2324 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,440 CONSORTIUM WHICH WAS INITIALLY 2325 01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:08,520 SELF-ORGANIZING AND IT'S GOTTEN 2326 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,400 TO BE QUITE ROBUST SO I THINK 2327 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,960 MANY OF YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE 2328 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:14,800 NEUROETHICS ISSUES THAT HAVE 2329 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,640 COME UP HERE AND ELSEWHERE WERE 2330 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,720 RAISED AND ADDRESSED IN 2331 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,640 DIFFERENT FORMS AND FORUMS BY 2332 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,680 THE ROH CONSUMPTION INCLUDING 2333 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:25,760 NICE PUBLICATIONS SO SOME OF IT 2334 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,120 HAPPENED ORGANICALLY. 2335 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,720 ONE WAY TO DO THIS IS TO 2336 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,640 DIRECTLY ENGAGE THE 2337 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,520 INVESTIGATORS IN WORKSHOPS, 2338 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:34,840 MEETINGS, WHICH WE ARE DOING AS 2339 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:35,200 WELL. 2340 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,520 WHETHER WE'RE TELLING THEM WE'RE 2341 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,160 DOING THAT IN FEEDBACK IS A 2342 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:39,080 DIFFERENT STORY. 2343 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,880 I THINK CERTAINLY WE CAN -- WE 2344 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,560 WILL AND SHOULD CONTINUE DOING 2345 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,160 THAT AND PERHAPS DO SOME IN A 2346 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,640 MORE INTENTIONAL WAY. 2347 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,680 AND AS NOTED, I WOULD LIKE THE 2348 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,880 IDEA OF A FIVE-YEAR SCAN TO SEE, 2349 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,440 CAN WE IDENTIFY TRENDS AND WITH 2350 01:21:54,440 --> 01:21:57,600 ANY WORKSHOP THAT WE DO, IT'S A 2351 01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,240 MATTER OF THE WORKSHOP 2352 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,680 ORGANIZERS WHICH WOULD BE US, 2353 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,920 EITHER BRAIN OR NEWG OR NEWG IN 2354 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,040 COLLABORATION WITH BRAIN TO 2355 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,920 IDENTIFY ISSUES WE WOULD LIKE TO 2356 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,920 BRING FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION AND 2357 01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,800 MAKE FORWARD THE RESEARCHERS 2358 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,000 THERE ARE WITH A STRONG 2359 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,560 COLLECTIVE, NOT COLLECTIVE AND 2360 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,680 VOICE WHICH AGAIN IS ONE THING 2361 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,440 WE DID LEARN FROM THE TRIALS AND 2362 01:22:18,440 --> 01:22:19,880 RESPONSIBILITIES WORKSHOP IS WE 2363 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,440 NEEDED DIFFERENT VOICES AT THE 2364 01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:23,080 TABLE TO SOLVE THESE COMPLEX 2365 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,360 PROBLEMS. 2366 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:25,000 SO THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING 2367 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,200 THAT I THINK WE WILL BE DOING. 2368 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,720 >> IF I COULD JUST ADD ON TO 2369 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,000 THAT AS WELL, THERE ARE BOTH 2370 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,440 FORMAL AND INFORMAL WAYS THAT 2371 01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:36,440 WE'RE DOING THIS. 2372 01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:37,760 PROGRAM STAFF ARE ALERT TO THIS 2373 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,320 AND WE HAVE AN INTERNAL TEAM, 2374 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,200 OUR NEUROETHICS TEAM LED BY NINA 2375 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,960 HSU AND JAY CHURCHHILL AND IT 2376 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,800 HAS MEMBERS OF LOTS OF PROGRAM 2377 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,120 STAFF FROM OUR BRAIN INITIATIVE 2378 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:50,520 AND THEY DO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES 2379 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,760 QUITE REGULARLY. 2380 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,200 SO THAT'S THE WAY WE DEAL WITH 2381 01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,120 THESE INTERNALLY. 2382 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,680 IN ADDITION, BECAUSE OF THE WORK 2383 01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:03,520 OF THE NEUROETHICS WORKGROUP AND 2384 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,320 OTHERS AT NIH WE HAVE THE COIN 2385 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,200 RATED THE EX F PER TEASE INTO A 2386 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,320 NUMBER OF OUR FUNDING 2387 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:11,680 OPPORTUNITIES. 2388 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,400 IT WAS A FORMAL WAY AND WE HAVE 2389 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:14,920 OUR REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES OUT 2390 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,600 THERE AND WE NEEDED NEURO ETH 2391 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,200 SIS AND ETH A SIS RIGHT UP FRONT 2392 01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:24,360 IN TERMS OF THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN 2393 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:24,600 PROJECTS. 2394 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:29,240 >> JUST TO ADD A FINAL COMMENT, 2395 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,400 SOMETIMES DUNG THIS ANALYSIS 2396 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:33,800 EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A RESPONSE TO 2397 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,960 A GRANT WHERE IT'S NOT SO MUCH 2398 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:48,600 ETHICAL AND WHERE WE ETHICAL 2399 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,280 CONCERN WHERE WE REVIEWS AND 2400 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,760 SEPARATELY AFTER THE PORTFOLIO 2401 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:55,000 ANALYSIS. 2402 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,920 >> THANK YOU ALL. 2403 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:05,160 >> WE HAVE A BREAK COMING UP. 2404 01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,240 >> KAREN, WERE YOU RESPONDING TO 2405 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:08,640 SOMETHING BEFORE? 2406 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,040 DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? 2407 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,280 I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. 2408 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,960 I THINK ONE OF THE GREAT AND 2409 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:17,480 REALLY NECESSARY THINGS THAT THE 2410 01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:20,560 NEWG DOES IS STAY AHEAD OF SOME 2411 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,120 OF THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS AND 2412 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:24,600 NOT BE REACTIVE BUT BE PROACTIVE 2413 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,760 TO THINGS THAT ARE COMING ON THE 2414 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:28,760 HORIZON AND IT WAS POINT NUMBER 2415 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:29,280 FIVE. 2416 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:30,600 REALLY NICE SUMMARY, THANK YOU, 2417 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:31,840 I REALLY ENJOYED THAT. 2418 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:36,480 WHICH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE USE 2419 01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:38,600 OF SURGICALLY IMPLANTED DEVICES 2420 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:44,040 FOR ENHANCEMENT. 2421 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,320 THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 2422 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,600 ALREADY HERE AND SO I WONDER 2423 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,040 WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING TO THINK 2424 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,760 ABOUT HOW TO ESTABLISH SOME SORT 2425 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,280 OF RAILS FOR THIS, I MEAN IT 2426 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,840 COULD BE CRAZY AND TREMENDOUS IN 2427 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:03,040 A GOOD WAY OR BAD WAY OR ANY 2428 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,240 DIFFERENT WAY AND I WONDER IF 2429 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,640 THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 2430 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,040 WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT IN 2431 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,400 TERMS OF THE FUTURE OF WHAT WE 2432 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,560 CAN DO TO HELP ESTABLISH SOME 2433 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,120 SORT OF PRINCIPLES UNDER WHICH 2434 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,960 WE HOPE THIS WORK WILL TAKE 2435 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:16,240 PLACE. 2436 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,480 LIKE SAID, IT'S ALREADY HERE AND 2437 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:21,200 IT'S INEVITABLE AND MAYBE WHAT 2438 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,640 WE DO IS NOT GOING TO MATTER 2439 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,480 BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE ON ITS OWN 2440 01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:25,720 FORCE. 2441 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:31,440 I THINK WE SHOULD TRY AS A 2442 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:35,200 COMMUNITY OF INDIVIDUALS TO TRY 2443 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:40,360 TO INFLUENCE HOW THAT DEVELOPS. 2444 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,720 I GUESS THERE'S NO QUESTION 2445 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,080 THERE. 2446 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:45,560 >> OK. 2447 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:46,640 LET'S GO TO KAREN. 2448 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,080 >> SUGGESTION TAKEN. 2449 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,400 >> THANK YOU. 2450 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,000 SASKIA AMAZING SUMMARY AS ALWAYS 2451 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,080 AND SO I'M SO GRATEFUL YOU DO 2452 01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,320 THOSE FOR US SO TAUGHTFULLY AND 2453 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:00,040 CAREFULLY ANSWER QUESTIONS WE 2454 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,120 HAVE ABOUT THEM. 2455 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,880 I THINK MY STATEMENT IS A 2456 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:06,120 COMMENT. 2457 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,600 IT'S ALSO MAYBE AN APPEAL I'VE 2458 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:09,640 MADE A COUPLE OF TIMES. 2459 01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,800 MAYBE IT'S RELEVANT NOW, WHICH 2460 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,880 IS JUST BROADLY, AS LOOKING FOR 2461 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,800 GAPS AND ACTIVITIES IN A 2462 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,400 FIVE-YEAR ANALYSIS MAY BE WOULD 2463 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:25,440 THERE BE INTEREST IN DOING AN 2464 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:26,960 INTERNAL ASSESSMENT OF OUR TOOLS 2465 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:27,880 THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED. 2466 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,440 THERE'S STILL THE NEUROETHICS 2467 01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:32,560 ROADMAP WE'VE DISCUSSED SEVERAL 2468 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:33,760 TIMES THINKING ABOUT PICKING UP 2469 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,120 AND DOING SOMETHING WITH THE 2470 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,880 SIGNIFICANT WORK DONE THERE AND 2471 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,960 LED BY OUR FEAR LESS CO-CHAIRS, 2472 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,160 JIM, AND MANY OTHERS WHO WERE ON 2473 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:44,680 THE TEAM. 2474 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,000 AND ALSO WE HAVE CREATED OUR OWN 2475 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,480 ETHICS PRINCIPLES BACK IN THE 2476 01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:51,080 DAY, THAT I'M NOT REALLY SURE 2477 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,800 HAVE MADE THEIR WAY INTO OUR 2478 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,640 ANALYSIS AND I HAD BROUGHT THIS 2479 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,840 UP ACTUALLY WITH JOHN, IF WOULD 2480 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,160 BE INTERESTING TO LOOK BACK AT 2481 01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,440 THOSE PRINCIPLES AND LOOK AT 2482 01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:02,240 THEIR UTILITY IN DOING SOME OF 2483 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,880 THESE ANALYSIS AND IF WE'RE NOT 2484 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:06,680 USING THEM, EITHER MAYBE WE 2485 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,200 DON'T HAVE AWARENESS OR THEY'RE 2486 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,520 NOT USEFUL IN ITS TIME TO 2487 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,360 UPGRADE THEM SO THEY'RE USEFUL 2488 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,000 INTERNALLY AND WE WE HOPE WE 2489 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,960 CREATE TOOLS USEFUL FOR THE REST 2490 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,240 OF THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY. 2491 01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:23,200 SO, I THINK A CONSISTENT CALL 2492 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,600 IS MY WORK THESE DAYS IN THE 2493 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,840 INSTITUTE AND LOOKING AT PROCESS 2494 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,440 IN IMPLEMENTATION AND I THINK 2495 01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:31,840 THAT SCIENTISTS AND 2496 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,280 PRACTITIONERS ARE REALLY HUNGRY 2497 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,480 FOR ACTIONABLE TOOLS MORE THAN A 2498 01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:38,440 THEORETICAL ANALYSIS ALTHOUGH 2499 01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:42,920 IT'S USEFUL IN A PRECURSOR AND 2500 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,400 WE CAN WORK TO DEVISE SOME 2501 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:47,440 EFFECTIVE TOOLS OR AT LEAST 2502 01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:52,480 ASSESS THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE. 2503 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:54,080 >> OK. 2504 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,760 NOT HEARING AN UPWARD TONE AT 2505 01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,640 THE END OF THAT SENTENCE. 2506 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,480 I WILL ACCEPT IT'S NOT A 2507 01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:02,120 QUESTION. 2508 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:06,160 I THOUGHT I SAW ELBA'S HAND UP 2509 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:06,440 EARLIER. 2510 01:28:06,440 --> 01:28:09,320 BUT I DON'T SEE IT UP NOW. 2511 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:15,720 AND SOMEONE IN THE UPPER-LEFT 2512 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,120 CORNER -- WHOSE LOCATION MAKES 2513 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,080 ME THINK YOU HAVE A HAND UP BUT 2514 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,720 I'M NOT SEEING A HAND UP. 2515 01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:22,280 ANYBODY ELSE? 2516 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,160 ALL RIGHT. 2517 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,000 WELL, I WILL MAKE ONE COMMENT ON 2518 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,520 THIS AND IT'S THE LAST TIME I'LL 2519 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,920 MAKE THIS COMMENT AT A NEWG 2520 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:29,360 MEETING. 2521 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,000 I MENTIONED IT'S THE BIGGEST 2522 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,680 ETHICAL ISSUE AROUND BUT I THINK 2523 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,680 THE BRAIN INITIATIVE AND NIH 2524 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:42,080 MORE BROADLY, HAS THIS SERIOUS 2525 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,000 POTENTIAL SLOW-MOTION WITH NON 2526 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,080 HUMAN PRIMATES. 2527 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,720 NEURO SCIENTISTS WANT TO USE IT 2528 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,360 ON PRIMATES MORE AND MORE FOR 2529 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:54,360 GOOD AND UNDERSTANDABLE REASONS 2530 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,200 AND CONGRESSIONAL OF PRIMATES IS 2531 01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:02,400 RISING AND I SEE THAT AS A 2532 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,280 POTENTIAL REAL PROBLEM FOR 2533 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,800 FUTURE NEUROSCIENCE RESEARCH 2534 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,240 THAT I HOPE NIH PROBABLY AT A 2535 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,040 LEVEL HIGHER THAN JUST THE BRAIN 2536 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,840 INITIATIVE, IS GOING TO BE 2537 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,400 THOUGHTFUL AND ACTIVE ON. 2538 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,440 HAVING SAID THAT, AND LOOKING AT 2539 01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:21,720 A BUNCH OF HUMAN PRIMATES, WE'RE 2540 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:27,360 SCHEDULED TO GO UNTIL BREAK 2541 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,120 UNTIL 10:40. 2542 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,360 WE'VE GOT SIX AND A HALF MINUTES 2543 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,640 I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ENOUGH 2544 01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,160 FOR THE BASIC NEEDS FOR A BREAK 2545 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:38,120 COME BACK HERE AT AROUND 10:40 2546 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,880 AND WE WILL RESUME. 2547 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,160 SEE YOU IN SIX MINUTES. 2548 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,000 >> GUESS WE'LL GET 2549 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,840 STARTED. 2550 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,200 Dr. NINA HSU WILL RECAP WHAT 2551 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:48,920 WE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES. 2552 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,640 A LOT OF YOU WERE THERE BUT NOT 2553 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,680 EVERYONE WAS THERE AND IT WILL 2554 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,920 BE GOOD FOR EVERYONE TO SORT OF 2555 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,640 REMEMBER WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT 2556 01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:58,800 THE WORKSHOP. 2557 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,760 BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO NINA, I 2558 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,400 WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK NINA HSU 2559 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,200 AND SASKIA HENDRIKS, ESPECIALLY, 2560 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:08,760 FOR ALL THE WORK THEY WENT AND 2561 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,240 THEY DID TO GO INTO THAT 2562 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:10,520 WORKSHOP. 2563 01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,200 IT WAS REALLY A VERY EXCELLENT 2564 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,280 WORKSHOP AND WE'RE STILL TALKING 2565 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:16,600 ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS. 2566 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,480 SO THANK YOU BOTH. 2567 01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:19,680 NINA -- TAKE IT AWAY. 2568 01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,960 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRISTINE. 2569 01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:23,600 I THINK THE SLIDES WILL BE 2570 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:30,440 COMING UP IN JUST A SECOND. 2571 01:30:30,440 --> 01:30:30,640 GREAT. 2572 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:31,280 ALL RIGHT. 2573 01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,440 SO PERFECT. 2574 01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:36,320 AND GREAT, SO, WHAT I WILL BE 2575 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,240 BRIEFLY RECAPPING Dr. AND THE 2576 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,120 SUMMARY OF OUR MAY TWO-DAY 2577 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,000 WORKSHOP AROUND CONTINUING TRIAL 2578 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,880 RESPONSIBILITIES THAT FOCUSED ON 2579 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,640 PATIENTS WHO PARTICIPATED IN 2580 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,600 IMPLANT AND NEURAL DEVICE 2581 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:49,840 TRIALS. 2582 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,080 AS CHRISTINE AND JOHN ALLUDED 2583 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,160 TO, WE'RE CONTINUING TO PROCESS 2584 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:57,400 THE RICH DISCUSSIONS FROM THE 2585 01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,080 WORKSHOP AND WE DISCUSSION THAT 2586 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,760 LATER ON TODAY AS WELL. 2587 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:04,640 SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF 2588 01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,200 BACKGROUND AND DEVICES REQUIRES 2589 01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:07,080 CONDUCTING RESEARCH WITH HOW 2590 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:08,280 MANY AN VOLUNTEERS AND WE 2591 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:09,760 WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ADVANCE THE 2592 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,360 FIELD WITHOUT THE GENEROUS 2593 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,600 CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE PATIENTS 2594 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,280 WHO VOLUNTEER FOR THESE TRIALS. 2595 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,400 IT'S WORTH NOTEING AND WE HEARD 2596 01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,920 IT IN THE WORKSHOP AND THESE 2597 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,320 PATIENTS HAVE TRIED ALL OTHER 2598 01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:22,880 AVAILABLE TREATMENTS AND HAVE 2599 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:23,840 FOUND THEIR CONDITIONS TO BE 2600 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,160 TREATMENT RESISTANT SO WE 2601 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,520 PARTICIPATE IN THESE TRIALS MAY 2602 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,400 OR MAY NOTTEN UP HELPING THEM ON 2603 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,160 AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL. 2604 01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,080 AND SO WHEN THESE PATIENTS 2605 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,720 CONTRIBUTE TO THESE TRIALS, IT'S 2606 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,080 IMPAIRED THAT WE AS A SCIENTIFIC 2607 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,600 COMMUNITY UPHOLD HIGH ETHICAL 2608 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,000 STANDARDS AND TRY TO DO OUR BEST 2609 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,520 TO REDUCE THEIR PARTICIPATE RISK 2610 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:45,000 AND BURDENS. 2611 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,240 SO THIS WORKSHOP DEALT WITH ONE 2612 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,200 AREA RELATED TO THAT GENERAL 2613 01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,160 GOAL OF NIH AND THE RESEARCH 2614 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:52,640 COMMUNITY AT LARGE. 2615 01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,800 SO SPECIFICALLY, PATIENTS WHO 2616 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,520 RECEIVE EXPERIMENTAL NEURAL 2617 01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,880 DEVICES MAY HAVE NEEDS RELATED 2618 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:01,560 TO THEIR REOPEN PARTICIPATE 2619 01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,320 AFTER THE TRIAL ENDS. 2620 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,640 FOR EXAMPLE, PATIENTS 2621 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,960 EXPERIENCING BENEFITS MAY WANT 2622 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,040 TO KEPT DEVICE AND PATIENTS WHO 2623 01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:11,080 KEPT DEVICE MAY NEED THINGS SUCH 2624 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,440 AS DEVICE MAINTENANCE, INCLUDING 2625 01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,320 HARDWARE REPLACEMENTS SUCH AS 2626 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,200 BATTERIES, AND MAY ALSO NEED 2627 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,760 DEVICE EX PLANTATION FOR 2628 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,280 EXAMPLE, DUE TO COMPLICATIONS. 2629 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:22,800 AND THESE RESEARCH RELATED 2630 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,840 PERIODS CAN APPEAR IN DIFFERENT 2631 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,320 SCENARIOS THE CLASSIC SCENARIO 2632 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,120 IS THE TRIAL HAS ENDED BUT THE 2633 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,840 DEVICE HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED FOR 2634 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:31,560 CLINICAL USE. 2635 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:32,880 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT 2636 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,160 THERE ARE OTHER POSSIBLE 2637 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:36,680 SCENARIOS AS WELL FOR EXAMPLE, 2638 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,520 THE TRIAL MAY JUST CONTINUE 2639 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:39,800 PREMATURELY AND THE DEVICE MAY 2640 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:48,640 NOT RECEIVE APPROVAL AND THE 2641 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,480 CLASSIC SCENARIO BETWEEN THE END 2642 01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:52,840 OF THE TRIAL AND DEVICE APPROVAL 2643 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,400 IS TIME LITED BUT SOME OF THESE 2644 01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,320 OTHER SCENARIOS COULD LAST AS 2645 01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,360 LONG AS THE PATIENT'S LIFETIME. 2646 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:01,880 AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL 2647 01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,440 REASONS ACROSS PROFESSIONAL 2648 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:05,200 STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE BEEN 2649 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,000 EXPRESSED BY THESE PROFESSIONAL 2650 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:07,880 STAKEHOLDERS WERE THESE TRIALS 2651 01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,080 MAY HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO 2652 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:11,720 ANTICIPATE AND PLAN FOR 2653 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:12,600 PARTICIPATE POST TRIAL NEEDS 2654 01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,000 THAT ARE LINKED TO TRIAL 2655 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:15,320 PARTICIPATION. 2656 01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:16,720 THIS CAN INCLUDE A 2657 01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,960 RESPONSIBILITY TO PREVENT OR 2658 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:19,760 REDUCE THE HARMS THAT RELATE TO 2659 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,200 HAVING SUCH A DEVICE FOR 2660 01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:32,320 INDIVIDUALS AND SO 2661 01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:33,480 NON-MALEFICENCE AND REPROVIDE 2662 01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:34,600 CARE FOR THE BURDEN AND RISK 2663 01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,080 THAT THEY UNDERGO AS 2664 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:40,720 PARTICIPANTS TO ADVANCE THE 2665 01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:48,800 SCIENCE AND -- AND THE 2666 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:49,880 RELATIONSHIP BUILDING THAT 2667 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,280 HAPPENS BETWEEN PARTICIPANTS AND 2668 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,560 THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE 2669 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,760 TRIAL WHICH CAN CREATE 2670 01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:58,360 RELATIONAL DUDES AFTER THAT 2671 01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,440 TRIAL HAS ENDED. 2672 01:34:00,440 --> 01:34:02,200 THERE ARE ARGUMENTS WHY THESE 2673 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:03,400 POST TRIAL RESPONSIBILITIES MAY 2674 01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:04,360 BE LIMITED. 2675 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,040 THE FIRST IS OPPORTUNITY COSTS. 2676 01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:07,640 THAT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT POST 2677 01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,640 TRIAL CARE FOR PARTICIPANTS, 2678 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,680 STAKEHOLDERS MAY HAVE TO FOREGO 2679 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,080 OTHER VENTURES INCLUDING 2680 01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:14,080 IMPORTANT FUTURE TRIALS TO 2681 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,160 BENEFIT THE PATIENT POPULATION 2682 01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,520 AT LARGE. 2683 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,040 RELATEDLY THERE'S A TRADE OFF 2684 01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,440 BETWEEN RESEARCH GOALS AND 2685 01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:23,320 CLINICAL CARES AND IN THIS CASE 2686 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,200 WHERE THE CARE IS RELATED TO 2687 01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:26,480 RESEARCH PARTICIPATION, THAT 2688 01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:29,160 BOUNDARY BECOMES SOMEWHAT 2689 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:29,880 UNCLEAR. 2690 01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:31,880 AND LASTLY M. ARGUE AS LONG AS 2691 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:33,680 THE PATIENTS WERE INFORMED OF, 2692 01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,840 UNDERSTOOD AND CONSENTED TO A 2693 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:39,200 LACK OF KO CON CREE ARRANGEMENTS 2694 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:40,280 AROUND POST TRIAL CARE THE LACK 2695 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,720 OF ARRANGEMENTS MAY BE 2696 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:43,040 ACCEPTABLE. 2697 01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,240 SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE 2698 01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,200 NEW WORKSHOP THAT DISCUSSED POST 2699 01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,800 TRIAL CARE BACK IN 2017, AND THE 2700 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:52,320 GROUP CONCLUDED THAT THERE ARE 2701 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,720 NO DEFINITIVE ETHICAL OR 2702 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,080 REGULATORY FRAMEWORKS OR EVEN 2703 01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,000 STANDARD PRACTICES REGARDING 2704 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:03,200 POST TRIAL CARE FOR DEVICES. 2705 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,000 THE NEW DRAFT HAD THREE POINTS 2706 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,920 TO CONSIDER THAT POST TRIAL 2707 01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:08,440 NEEDS TO BE ANTICIPATED AHEAD OF 2708 01:35:08,440 --> 01:35:09,720 THE TRIAL WITH DIFFERENT 2709 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:10,960 SCENARIOS PLANNED FOR THAT 2710 01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,280 PROFESSIONAL STAKEHOLDERS HAVE A 2711 01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,000 LIMITED SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO 2712 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,480 TAKE REASONABLE STEPS TO 2713 01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:18,280 FACILITATE CONTINUED ACCESS TO 2714 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,440 DEVICES THAT BENEFIT 2715 01:35:20,440 --> 01:35:20,960 PARTICIPANTS AND MAY HAVE 2716 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,600 FURTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. 2717 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,240 AND THAT PATIENTS SHOULD BE 2718 01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:25,520 INFORMED ABOUT THESE POST TRIAL 2719 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:31,760 NEEDS AND PLANS. 2720 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,160 SO WE TOOK THESE AS ASSUMPTIONS 2721 01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:35,920 WHEN PLANNING THE WORKSHOP. 2722 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:36,600 AS FAR AS THE CURRENT STATE OF 2723 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,440 THE FIELD, THERE'S STILL VARIETY 2724 01:35:38,440 --> 01:35:40,200 AS TO WHETHER STUDIES PLAN FOR 2725 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:41,880 ALL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND FOR 2726 01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,600 THOSE PLANS THAT ARE MADE, 2727 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:51,680 THERE'S HETERO A LETTERGENAITY E 2728 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,480 HIGH LEVEL GUIDANCE THAT EMERGE 2729 01:35:53,480 --> 01:36:01,920 INTERESTED THIS WORKSHOP. 2730 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,720 FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT ARE REASONABLE 2731 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,160 RESEARCH RELATED CARE NEEDS THAT 2732 01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,120 PROFESSIONAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT 2733 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:08,600 SHOULD PROVIDE THAT MAY DEPEND 2734 01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,000 ON THE TRIAL AND HOW MAY THESE 2735 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,920 NEEDS BE PROVIDED FOR IN AS FAR 2736 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,880 AS THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY. 2737 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,400 AND THUS, THE GOAL OF THIS 2738 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,160 WORKSHOP IN MAY WAS TO BRING 2739 01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:19,840 TOGETHER THE RELEVANT 2740 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,120 STAKEHOLDERS TO DISCUSS 2741 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:22,280 REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS FOR 2742 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,840 RESEARCH RELATED CARE PLANS THAT 2743 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:26,320 COULD EVENTUALLY INFORM BEST 2744 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:33,320 PRACTICES FOR THE RESEARCH 2745 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,680 COMMUNITY. 2746 01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:38,400 AND SO THE WORKSHOP WAS 2747 01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:39,960 STRUCTURED AS A SERIES OF 2748 01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:44,720 PROGRESSIVE PANELS OV A TWO-DAYT 2749 01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,000 TO GO IDENTIFY POST TRIAL 2750 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,200 RESEARCH CARE NEEDS AND SECOND 2751 01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:49,600 TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS CURRENTLY 2752 01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,800 IN PLACE TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE 2753 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,680 CARE NEEDS AND THIRD TO IDENTIFY 2754 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,640 WHAT SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM OR 2755 01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:57,440 REASONABLE LEVEL OF 2756 01:36:57,440 --> 01:36:58,000 RESEARCH-RELATED CARE THAT 2757 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,400 SHOULD BE FACILITATED AND 2758 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,800 LASTLY, TO CONSIDER THE 2759 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IS 2760 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,080 CURRENTLY PROVIDED AND WHAT 2761 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,240 SHOULD BE. 2762 01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:09,560 YOU'VE SEEN THE SCREEN SHOT 2763 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,520 BEFORE BUT I WANTED TO SHOW IT 2764 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,160 ALSO AS A WAY TO POINT OUT THE 2765 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,800 BREADTH AND DIVERSITY OF 2766 01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:18,920 PERSPECTIVES WE WERE AND 2767 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,560 WORKSHOP AND I DO WANT TO 2768 01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:21,400 HIGHLIGHT THAT OVER THE COURSE 2769 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,920 OF THE TWO DAYS, WE WERE ABLE TO 2770 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,960 BRING A WIDE VARIETY OF 2771 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:27,920 PERSPECTIVES TO THE VIRTUAL 2772 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:28,120 TABLE. 2773 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:29,640 AND THIS INCLUDED MULTIPLE 2774 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,200 PATIENT PERSPECTIVES, HE HAVE 2775 01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,880 PHYSICIAN, INVESTIGATORS, DEVICE 2776 01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:37,280 MANAGERS, INSURANCE PAYERS 2777 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,720 INCLUDING CMS AND PRIVATE 2778 01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,880 INSURANCE AND REPRESENTATIVES 2779 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,720 AND RESTRAIGHTORS AND AS WELL AS 2780 01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,480 THE FDA AND THE VARIOUS SESSIONS 2781 01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:51,160 WERE CO MODERATED BY NEWG 2782 01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,760 MEMBERS AS WELL AS NIH STAFF. 2783 01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,880 SO MOVING INTO SOME OF THE KEY 2784 01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,400 THEMES WE HEARD FROM EACH OF THE 2785 01:37:58,400 --> 01:37:58,600 PANELS. 2786 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,600 WHAT NEEDS MIGHT STUDY 2787 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:01,760 PARTICIPANTS HAVE IN RELATION TO 2788 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:02,640 THEIR TRIAL PARTICIPATION AFTER 2789 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,640 A TRIAL ENDS. 2790 01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,680 WE HEARD A NEED TO BE CONTINUED 2791 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,440 ACCESS TO AN ALREADY IMPLANTED 2792 01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:10,520 DEVICE, PARTICULARLY IF THE 2793 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:11,720 PATIENT IS BENEFITING. 2794 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,440 WE HEARD ABOUT A NEED FOR 2795 01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:14,800 FOLLOW-UP CARE AND DEVICE 2796 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,520 SUPPORT AND MAINTENANCE AND THIS 2797 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:17,720 COULD INCLUDE FOR EXAMPLE, 2798 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,960 ACCESS TO SPECIALIZED CLINICIANS 2799 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,560 AND COMPATIBLE HARDWARE AND 2800 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:23,840 REPLACEMENT PARTS AS WELL AS THE 2801 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,160 ASSOCIATED SURGERY COSTS, AND 2802 01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:27,720 COMPATIBLE SOFTWARE. 2803 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:38,200 WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT EMERGING 2804 01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:45,560 INSURANCE SYSTEMS AND HELPING 2805 01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,680 PATIENTS TO FIND ADDITIONAL 2806 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:48,920 CLINICAL TRIAL OPPORTUNITIES OR 2807 01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:52,080 TREATMENT OPTIONS AFTER THE 2808 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,000 STUDY COMPLETES AND TO HELP 2809 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:54,320 NAVIGATE THE RECEIPT OF CARE FOR 2810 01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,440 OLDER VERSIONS OF MEDICAL 2811 01:38:56,440 --> 01:38:57,960 DEVICES INCLUDES THOSE THAT MAY 2812 01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,200 NOT BE FDA APPROVED. 2813 01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:04,800 AND IN ADDITION, WE HEARD ABOUT 2814 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,440 A NEED WE HEARD IT CAN BE 2815 01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:11,360 POSSIBLE TO REQUEST FUNDS FOR EX 2816 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:12,680 PLANTATION IN AN APPLICATION BUT 2817 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,880 IT ISN'T CONSISTENTLY DONE AND 2818 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,880 WE ALSO HEARD A PATIENT 2819 01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,320 PERSPECTIVE THAT DEVELOPING A 2820 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,720 DECISION OR POSSIBLE CONTINGENCY 2821 01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:23,360 PLANS CAN BE PRESENTED TO 2822 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,720 PATIENTS MAY BE HELPFUL TO HELP 2823 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:27,840 THEM UNDERSTAND THEIR OPTIONS 2824 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,600 RELATED TO EXPLANTATION. 2825 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,480 OTHER NEEDS WE HEARD ABOUT 2826 01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:33,240 INCLUDED DEVICE REPLACEMENT, 2827 01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,600 ALSO REQUIRING HARDWARE IN 2828 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,440 SURGERY COSTS, PSYCHOLOGICAL 2829 01:39:38,440 --> 01:39:41,080 SUPPORT AND NEED FOR REASONABLE 2830 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,200 OPTION AND CLARITY FOR FUTURE 2831 01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:43,480 ACCESS OF CARE AND ASSOCIATED 2832 01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:51,880 OUT OF POCKET COSTS AND THIS 2833 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,600 COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH 2834 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:56,000 REGISTRY. 2835 01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,200 AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE 2836 01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,920 SOME QUOTES FROM THE PATIENT 2837 01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:01,560 VOICES THAT WE HAD AT THE 2838 01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:01,800 WORKSHOP. 2839 01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:09,560 SO TWO QUOTES FROM TWO DIFFEREN. 2840 01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,280 IT'S NOT AN EXPERIMENT, IT'S A 2841 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:12,480 WAY TO KEEP ME ALIVE. 2842 01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:13,280 WE KNOW THIS WORKS. 2843 01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,600 THE OPTIONS FOR ME WERE TRY THIS 2844 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:17,400 OR DEATH. 2845 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,080 I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT THE 2846 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:20,480 FUTURE. 2847 01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:21,680 THREE YEARS IN WITH A BATTERY 2848 01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:25,120 THAT IS SAID TO LAST 15 YEARS, 2849 01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,160 I'M THINKING ABOUT WHAT WILL 2850 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,040 HAPPEN 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND I 2851 01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:29,880 THINK THESE QUOTES ARE POWERFUL 2852 01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,480 AND EXPRESSING THESE 2853 01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:34,600 PERSPECTIVES. 2854 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,040 AS WE SHIFTED TO PANEL TWO WE 2855 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:38,840 HEARD FROM PROFESSIONAL 2856 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,520 STAKEHOLDERS AND THEIR 2857 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:41,600 PERSPECTIVES ON WHAT THEY 2858 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:42,920 PROVIDE AND OVER ALL WHAT WE 2859 01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,240 TOOK AWAY IS THAT ALL 2860 01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:47,400 STAKEHOLDERS COVER SOME POST 2861 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,080 TRIAL NEEDS AND SOME NEEDS ARE 2862 01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,600 GENERALLY COVERED BY A PATIENT 2863 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,520 HEALTH AND THEY HAVE INSURANCE 2864 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,280 AND THIS INCLUDES EMERGENCY 2865 01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:57,840 CARRIE LATING TO SIDE EFFECTS OR 2866 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,160 DEVICE COMPLICATIONS AND ROUTINE 2867 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:01,440 MEDICAL CARRIE LATED TO MEDICAL 2868 01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:02,960 CONDITION, FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH 2869 01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:07,640 SPECIALIST APPOINTMENTS AN AND 2870 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,200 EXPLANTATION DUE TO A MEDICAL 2871 01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:09,560 INDICATION. 2872 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:10,960 WE HEARD THAT OTHER POST TRIAL 2873 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,160 RESEARCH RELATED CARE NEEDS, ARE 2874 01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,400 NOT CONSISTENTLY PROVIDED. 2875 01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,360 INSTEAD, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 2876 01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:20,520 FACTORS THAT DETERMINE COVERAGE 2877 01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,240 AND PROVISION OF THESE POST 2878 01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:23,440 TRIAL CARE NEEDS. 2879 01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:25,240 ONE IS THE RELATIVE SUCCESS OF 2880 01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:26,680 THE DEVICE SO WHETHER THE DEVICE 2881 01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:28,800 HAS BEEN APPROVED AND 2882 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,880 DETERMINING FDA APPROVAL WILL 2883 01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,520 REQUIRE EVALUATION OF DATA, 2884 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,360 OFTEN EVALUATED ON A 2885 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:35,680 CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. 2886 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,520 AND ANOTHER FACTOR DETERMINING 2887 01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,680 COVERAGE INCLUDES WHETHER THE 2888 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:41,360 PARTICIPANT HAS INSURANCE AND 2889 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,240 WHICH INSURANCE IT CAN VERY FROM 2890 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,520 PROVIDER TO PROVIDER AND EVEN 2891 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:46,800 WITHIN THIS SO WHETHER AN 2892 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,200 INSURANCE PAYER WILL PROVIDE 2893 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:50,200 COVERAGE IS INFLUENCED BY 2894 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,440 WHETHER THE DEVICE HAS BEEN FDA 2895 01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:53,840 APPROVED FOR CLINICAL USE AND 2896 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,840 FOR WHAT INDICATION AND AS WELL 2897 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,800 AS WHETHER RESEARCH DATA IS 2898 01:41:57,800 --> 01:41:59,280 SUFFICIENT TO QUALIFY FOR PUBLIC 2899 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,120 OR PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE 2900 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:02,480 COVERAGE. 2901 01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:04,480 AND ANOTHER FACTOR DETERMINING 2902 01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:06,360 COVERAGE IS WHETHER THERE ARE 2903 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,360 AVAILABLE FINANCIAL RESOURCES 2904 01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:09,960 AND LEADERSHIP SUPPORT IN THE 2905 01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,440 PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT 2906 01:42:11,440 --> 01:42:13,720 ARE INVOLVED IN THE TRIAL. 2907 01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,480 WHETHER SOME OF THE POTENTIAL 2908 01:42:15,480 --> 01:42:17,520 AVAILABLE MECHANISMS THAT COULD 2909 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,880 PROVIDE COVERAGE ARE UTILIZED 2910 01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,000 AND KNOWN AND IF THEY ARE KNOWN, 2911 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:23,600 IF THEY'RE KNOWN WELL ENOUGH IN 2912 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,360 ADVANCE FOR ANY PREPARATIONS TO 2913 01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:31,640 SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK OR 2914 01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,400 INFORMATION TO ACHIEVE COVERAGE 2915 01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:35,480 AND FINALLY IS THE AVAILABILITY 2916 01:42:35,480 --> 01:42:37,600 OF THESE PATIENTS TO COORDINATE 2917 01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:37,800 CARE. 2918 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,400 SO A GENERAL TAKE HOME POINT 2919 01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:41,600 FROM OUR FIRST DAY, WAS THERE 2920 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:45,040 WAS REALLY NO-ONE-SIZE-FITS ALL. 2921 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,440 AND THAT MEANT AS WE SHIFTED 2922 01:42:46,440 --> 01:42:49,040 INTO OUR THIRD PANEL, AROUND 2923 01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:50,680 WHAT SHOULD BE PROVIDED, WE WERE 2924 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:52,360 FACED WITH SOME INITIAL 2925 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,680 REALITIES ABOUT FACILITATING 2926 01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:55,520 RESEARCH-RELATED CARE. 2927 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,240 THAT THERE ARE NO PERFECT 2928 01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,200 SOLUTIONS, THAT DESPITE LOTS OF 2929 01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,120 PLANNING, SCENARIOS CAN ALWAYS 2930 01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,240 ARISE THAT HAVEN'T YET BEEN 2931 01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:05,920 PLANNED FOR. 2932 01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,160 WE ALSO TOOK AWAY THAT THE 2933 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:09,560 RESPONSIBILITIES MUST BE SHARED 2934 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,720 BUT TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT 2935 01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:13,600 EACH PROFESSIONAL STAKEHOLDER 2936 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,520 HAS LIMITS RELATING TO THEIR 2937 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:16,680 ORGANIZATIONAL MISSIONS AS WELL 2938 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,920 AS THEIR AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND 2939 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:20,640 YET DESPITE THIS THAT THERE'S 2940 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:27,120 MORE THAT WE MUST DO. 2941 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,280 SO FROM PANEL 3 FARCE WHAT WE 2942 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,000 SHOULD PROVIDE TO PARTICIPANTS 2943 01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,280 AFTER TRIALS, WE HEARD ABOUT A 2944 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:33,720 PLAN FOR POST TRIAL CARE AHEAD 2945 01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:34,640 OF THE TRIAL. 2946 01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:36,360 THIS IS A FAMILIAR POINT. 2947 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:37,480 THIS COULD INCLUDE PERHAPS SOME 2948 01:43:37,480 --> 01:43:38,880 FORM OF GUIDANCE OR GUARDRAILS 2949 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,520 IN MAKING DECISIONS AROUND 2950 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:42,480 POST-TRIAL CARE. 2951 01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:44,920 WE HEARD ABOUT IMPROVED CONSENT 2952 01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:46,720 REGARDING POST-TRIAL CARE AS 2953 01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,040 WELL AS CLARITY ABOUT FUTURE 2954 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:49,400 ACCESS TO CARE AND ASSOCIATESSED 2955 01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,560 OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES AND WE 2956 01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,240 HEARD THAT WHAT SHOULD ALSO BE 2957 01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:54,880 PROVIDE SOLDIER POSTED-TRIAL 2958 01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,000 ACCESS TO DEVICE AND DEVICE 2959 01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,960 MAINTENANCE FOR PARTICIPANTS 2960 01:43:58,960 --> 01:43:59,960 EXPERIENCING BENEFITS FOR THOSE 2961 01:43:59,960 --> 01:44:01,800 WHO LACK ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS AND 2962 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:03,800 THIS WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE 2963 01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:05,880 NECESSARY HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE 2964 01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:06,960 UPDATES AS WELL AS THE 2965 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:13,000 ASSOCIATED CARE COSTS. 2966 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,160 IN ADDITION, WE HEARD THAT WE 2967 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:17,800 SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE 2968 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:18,960 SUPPORT FOR TRANSITION TO 2969 01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,320 PATIENTS WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO GET 2970 01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,120 POST-TRIAL ACCESS. 2971 01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:26,920 ABOUT EXPLANTATION IF IT'S 2972 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,800 MEDICALLY IMPLICATED AND IF IT'S 2973 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,880 AN ELECTIVE CHOICE FOR 2974 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:32,120 EXPLANTATION AND TO ALSO BE ABLE 2975 01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,800 TO IMPROVE THE AVAILABILITY OF 2976 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,720 RESEARCH DATA TO PARTICIPANTS AS 2977 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,600 WELL AS OTHERS. 2978 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:40,880 AS WE MOVED INTO THE LAST 2979 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,280 SESSION, WE WANTED TO TRY TO 2980 01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:45,360 COALESCE INFORMATION FROM THESE 2981 01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,920 FIRST THROW PANELS TO 2982 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:48,680 COLLECTIVELY BRAINSTORM 2983 01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,040 SOLUTIONS AND ADDRESS SOME OF 2984 01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:54,960 THE POTENTIAL GAPS THAT WERE 2985 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:55,280 IDENTIFIED. 2986 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:56,640 SO AS FAR AS WHAT WE HEARD FROM 2987 01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,280 THE FOURTH SESSION IN TERMS OF 2988 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,160 CONSIDERATIONS FOR TRIAL DESIGN, 2989 01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:02,960 I THINK OVER ALL, WE HEARD THAT 2990 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,720 WHILE THERE ARE NO PERFECT 2991 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,080 SOLUTIONS, WE WANT TO TRY TO 2992 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:08,600 PLAN FOR DIFFERENCE SCENARIOS 2993 01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,320 UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST PLANS 2994 01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,200 INVOLVE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, 2995 01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:13,760 CONTRIBUTING DIFFERENT PORTIONS, 2996 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,640 AND THAT IN THE SESSION THERE 2997 01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:16,840 WERE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS THAT 2998 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,000 WERE DISCUSSED FOR EACH OF THE 2999 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:20,480 POST TRIAL MEANS MENTIONED AND 3000 01:45:20,480 --> 01:45:22,400 AS FAR AS TRIAL DESIGN, WE HEARD 3001 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,280 ABOUT AN IMPORTANCE OF PATIENT 3002 01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:25,400 INVOLVEMENT EARLY ON IN THE 3003 01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,160 TRIAL DESIGN AND INCLUDING 3004 01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:28,720 IDENTIFYING AND PLANNING FOR 3005 01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,320 POST TRIAL NEEDS BY HEARING FROM 3006 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:34,800 THESE PATIENT VOICES. 3007 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,960 ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS 3008 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:40,600 CARRYING CARE NEEDS AND 3009 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:41,680 RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES THAT 3010 01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:42,960 LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PROCEDURES 3011 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:44,640 THEY HAVE TO UNDERGO. 3012 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:45,840 THE USE OF INTERCHANGEABLE 3013 01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,200 HARDWARE COMPONENTS IF POSSIBLE 3014 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:48,800 IN THE DESIGN OF DEVICES FOR 3015 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,360 SAFE AND EASY REMOVAL. 3016 01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:52,760 FOR TRIAL DESIGN WE HEARD ABOUT 3017 01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,080 AN EARLY INVOLVEMENT FOR THE 3018 01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,640 PAYORS, CMS OR OTHER PRIVATE 3019 01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:59,360 PAYORS AND I THINK ANOTHER CROSS 3020 01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,880 CUTTING THEME ACROSS THESE 3021 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,280 CONSIDERATIONS FOR TRIAL DESIGN 3022 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,360 ALSO INCLUDED CONVERSATIONS 3023 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,480 AROUND DIVERSE PARTICIPANT 3024 01:46:08,480 --> 01:46:10,080 ENROLLMENT CONSIDERING SOME OF 3025 01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:11,240 THE FINANCIAL BURDENS THAT ARE 3026 01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,000 ASSOCIATED WITH PARTICIPATION 3027 01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:14,440 AND THESE TRIALS AS WELL AS 3028 01:46:14,440 --> 01:46:15,800 LONG-TERM FOLLOW-UP RESEARCH TO 3029 01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:17,520 BE ABLE TO STUDY PATIENT 3030 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:23,960 OUTCOMES AND SAFETY. 3031 01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,400 AND SO SOME OF THE ONE BULLET 3032 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,320 POINT OR TAKEAWAY FROM EACH OF 3033 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,840 THESE SESSIONS MIGHT BE AS 3034 01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,320 FOLLOWS -- THE DURATION AND 3035 01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:34,920 BREADTH OF THESE POST TRIAL CARE 3036 01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:36,760 NEEDS COULD POTENTIALLY LAST A 3037 01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,600 PERSON'S LIFETIME. 3038 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,560 THAT WE HEARD A FEW POST TRIAL 3039 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,640 CARES ARE GENERALLY COVERED BY 3040 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,360 PATIENTS INSURANCE AND THAT 3041 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,560 OTHERS ARE INCONSISTENTLY 3042 01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:48,080 PROVIDED. 3043 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:50,680 THERE ARE NO PERFECT SOLUTIONS 3044 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:52,200 AND POSSIBLE SCENARIO AND THERE 3045 01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,600 WAS COLLECTIVE AND SHARED 3046 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,880 ENTHUSIASM FOR WANT TO GO DO 3047 01:46:58,880 --> 01:46:59,120 MORE. 3048 01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:00,200 WE BRAIN STORMED SOLUTIONS BASED 3049 01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,680 ON HOW THESE PROFESSIONAL 3050 01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:04,600 STAKEHOLDERS MIGHT PROVIDE OR 3051 01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:05,880 FACILITATE POST TRIAL CARE NEEDS 3052 01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:06,920 FOR THESE PARTICIPANTS. 3053 01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,520 AND I THINK OVER ALL, THERE WAS 3054 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:13,960 ALSO AN UNDERSTANDING AROUND THE 3055 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,560 NEEDS TO MITIGATE EQUITY IN THE 3056 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:17,800 HEALTH-CARE SYSTEM TO UNDERSTAND 3057 01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:22,000 THAT THIS MAY BE AN IMPORTANT 3058 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,440 SPACE FOR IN OVATION AND 3059 01:47:23,440 --> 01:47:26,040 SOLUTIONS FOR PROVIDING POST 3060 01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,760 TRIAL CARE AND I WANT TO 3061 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:28,840 EMPHASIZE THOSE TWO POINTS. 3062 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,040 AND SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS 3063 01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:32,840 WHICH I WILL ALSO SAY ARE VERY 3064 01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,480 MUCH ON GOING, BUT FROM THE 3065 01:47:35,480 --> 01:47:39,800 WORKSHOP, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT 3066 01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:41,520 QUANTIFY THE UNDER MET NEEDS AND 3067 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,720 SOME OF THE THESE EXISTING RISK 3068 01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:47,480 AND IT CAN BE HARD TO QUANTIFY 3069 01:47:47,480 --> 01:47:49,360 WHAT IS CURRENTLY NOT YET 3070 01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:50,960 AVAILABLE BUT AS MUCH AS 3071 01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:52,600 POSSIBLE, THE EX TENTS THAT WE 3072 01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,680 CAN USE A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH 3073 01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:55,480 TO UNDERSTAND NEXT STEPS THAT 3074 01:47:55,480 --> 01:47:56,720 WOULD BE USEFUL. 3075 01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,440 WE ARE CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING 3076 01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:00,440 THE FEASIBILITY OFFS SOME OF THE 3077 01:48:00,440 --> 01:48:02,840 POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS THAT WERE 3078 01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:03,880 BRAIN STORMED AND RAISED IN OUR 3079 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:05,040 LAST PANEL. 3080 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,320 WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE 3081 01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,360 IMPORTANCE OF THESE MULTI 3082 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,040 STAKEHOLDERS COLLABORATIONS, 3083 01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:12,080 UNDERSTANDING THAT DIFFERENT 3084 01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:13,560 STAKEHOLDERS CAN CONTRIBUTE 3085 01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,160 DIFFERENT PORTIONS, OR 3086 01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:16,960 POST-TRIAL CARE. 3087 01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,240 WE ALSO DISCUSSED SOME 3088 01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:20,240 PRIORITIES FROM THE SOLUTION 3089 01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,680 THAT'S WERE RAISED, WHAT MIGHT 3090 01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,440 BE SHORT, MID AND LONG-TERM 3091 01:48:24,440 --> 01:48:26,840 SOLUTIONS TO HELP US MOVE 3092 01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:27,080 FORWARD. 3093 01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,520 AND OVER ALL, I THINK WE THOUGHT 3094 01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,120 CONSENSUS WAS THE WORKSHOP WAS 3095 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,840 PROGRESS IN A COMPLICATED TOPIC 3096 01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:36,240 AND IT'S A BEGINNING OF A 3097 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,280 CONVERSATION AND A DIALOGUE AND 3098 01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,520 ALSO AN EARLY IMPORTANT STEP FOR 3099 01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,040 DEFINING AND MANAGING REASONABLE 3100 01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,960 EXPECTATIONS FOR POST TRIAL CARE 3101 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:46,440 PLANS. 3102 01:48:46,440 --> 01:48:49,760 SO I THINK WITH THAT -- I GUESS 3103 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:51,520 THE SLIDES DIDN'T MATCH. 3104 01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:52,120 THERE WE GO. 3105 01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:53,960 I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR 3106 01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:55,240 ATTENTION AND I CAN POINT YOU, 3107 01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:56,560 YOU WILL SEE IN THE SLIDE HERE, 3108 01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,040 THERE'S A LINK TO THE WORKSHOP 3109 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:00,720 WEBSITE AND INCLUDING THE 3110 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:02,000 AGENDA, BOTH DAYS OF THE VIDEO 3111 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,360 CAST AND I WANT TO GIVE A BIG 3112 01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:04,920 THANK YOU TO THE WORKSHOP 3113 01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:08,680 PLANNING COMMITTEE ESPECIALLY 3114 01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,000 Dr. SASKIA HENDRIKS AS WELL AS 3115 01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:11,440 MANY OTHERS WHO HELPED 3116 01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:13,240 FACILITATE AND MAKE THE WORKSHOP 3117 01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:13,480 HAPPEN. 3118 01:49:13,480 --> 01:49:17,800 I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AND 3119 01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:20,640 ALSO, HEAR REFLECTIONS FROM THE 3120 01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:21,680 NEWG MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED AND 3121 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:22,520 WE'LL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION 3122 01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,000 AROUND THE WORKSHOP LATER ON 3123 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:24,280 TODAY. 3124 01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:29,160 THANK YOU. 3125 01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:30,680 >> THANK YOU, NINA, FOR THAT 3126 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:31,600 EXCELLENT SUMMARY. 3127 01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:32,960 DO PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR 3128 01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:41,120 NINA? 3129 01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,000 OR COMMENTS? 3130 01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:47,720 ADDITIONAL MEMORIES? 3131 01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:49,440 >> JIM? 3132 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:53,720 >> THAT WAS REALLY AN AMAZING 3133 01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:55,640 REVIEW AND IT HELPS ME REMEMBER 3134 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:56,920 ASPECTS OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED 3135 01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:58,240 MANY TIMES IN THE PAST AS WELL. 3136 01:49:58,240 --> 01:49:59,800 ONE OF THE THINGS I WONDERED 3137 01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:05,000 WAS, IN TERMS OF DATA -- MAKING 3138 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:06,560 DATA AVAILABLE TO OTHERS, AFTER 3139 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,400 THE TRIAL, WHAT WERE SOME OF THE 3140 01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:13,640 DISCUSSIONS ALONG THOSE LINES? 3141 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,240 HOW DID THE INDIVIDUALS, THE 3142 01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,240 PATIENTS AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE 3143 01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:20,160 PROVIDERS THINK ABOUT GETTING 3144 01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:21,600 THAT DATA TO PEOPLE FOR USE IN 3145 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,200 OTHER STUDIES? 3146 01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:24,320 >> 3147 01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:25,680 >> THANK YOU, JIM FOR THE 3148 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:26,040 QUESTION. 3149 01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,720 IT'S A GREAT ONE. 3150 01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,120 I THINK IT WAS COMPLICATED. 3151 01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,080 SO I THINK WHAT I REMEMBER FROM 3152 01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:34,400 THE PATIENTS AND I WOULD INVISIT 3153 01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:35,640 OTHERS WHO ARE AT THE WORKSHOP 3154 01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,720 TO PLEASE, ALSO CHIME IN. 3155 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:42,600 IS THAT, WI WHAT THE PATIENTS 3156 01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:43,240 EXPRESSED WAS MAKING THAT DATA 3157 01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:44,400 AVAILABLE COULD FACILITATE CARE 3158 01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,240 FOR THEM, IF THEY WANT TO, FOR 3159 01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:47,440 EXAMPLE, BE IN A DIFFERENT 3160 01:50:47,440 --> 01:50:49,320 LOCATION AT SOME POINT IN THEIR 3161 01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:49,520 LIFE. 3162 01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,040 SO I THINK SOME OF THESE 3163 01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:53,080 PATIENTS HAVE MOVED TO WHERE 3164 01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:54,160 THESE STUDIES ARE HAPPENING TO 3165 01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:58,920 BE ABLE TO BE NEARBY. 3166 01:50:58,920 --> 01:50:59,920 IF THEY WERE TRAVELING AND 3167 01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:00,920 WINDED UP IN A DIFFERENT 3168 01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:02,200 LOCATION AND SOMETHING HAPPENS, 3169 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,720 HAVING THAT DATA AVAILABLE TO A 3170 01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:06,040 PROVIDE THEY'RE IS DIFFERENT 3171 01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,880 THAN THEIR TRIAL PROVIDER COULD 3172 01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:13,200 HELP THEM HAVE A CONTINUOUS 3173 01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:14,280 STREAMLINED LEVEL OF CARE SHOULD 3174 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:15,360 A NEED ARISE. 3175 01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:16,720 AT THE SAME TIME, MAKING THAT 3176 01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:17,920 DATA AVAILABLE FROM THE 3177 01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,440 PROFESSIONAL STAKEHOLDERS, COULD 3178 01:51:20,440 --> 01:51:20,800 BE CHALLENGING. 3179 01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:24,320 IT RAISES CONCERNS AROUND 3180 01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:25,520 REPOSITORIES PERHAPS DATA 3181 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,680 SHARING AND PRIVACY CONCERNS AS 3182 01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,440 WELL SO I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS 3183 01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:32,640 STRONG CONCLUSIONS THERE BUT 3184 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,640 THERE ARE MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES 3185 01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:36,520 THERE TO CONSIDER IN MAKING THAT 3186 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,760 DATA AVAILABLE. 3187 01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:41,160 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. 3188 01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,320 IT REALLY IS A COMPLICATED 3189 01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:43,800 ISSUE. 3190 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:45,640 JUST A FOLLOW-UP BEFORE I TURN 3191 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:46,280 IT OVER. 3192 01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,720 THE OTHER THING IS, YOU 3193 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,600 HIGHLIGHTED WAS MAXIMIZING THE 3194 01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:52,000 BENEFIT. 3195 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:52,920 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I 3196 01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:57,640 THINK SHOULD ALWAYS BE TRUE IS 3197 01:51:57,640 --> 01:51:58,640 THE PATIENTS INVOLVED SHOULD 3198 01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:07,040 HAVE ALL GENOME SEQUENCING SO AS 3199 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:08,200 THEY RECOVER FROM TREATMENT OR 3200 01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:09,120 THEY RESPOND IT TREATMENT, 3201 01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:17,680 THERE'S A GENETIC AGAIN ET DICO 3202 01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:18,880 CORRELATE DATA WITH THAT SO IN 3203 01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,800 TERMS OF MAXIMIZING DATA, WAS 3204 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:22,200 THERE A DISCUSSION OF EXPANDING 3205 01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:23,600 THESE TRIALS TO GO BEYOND THE 3206 01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:24,720 PARTICULAR THING THAT THEY'RE 3207 01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:29,120 TRYING TO TREAT TO MAKING DATA 3208 01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:32,840 LIKE IS THAT MORE GENERALLY 3209 01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,280 AVAILABLE AND SO -- 3210 01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:39,920 THANK YOU, JIM. 3211 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,800 I DON'T RECALL THAT COMING IN 3212 01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:43,360 THE DISCUSSION. 3213 01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:44,720 >> I DON'T THINK SO. 3214 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,040 >> THERE WAS A CALL FOR 3215 01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:49,800 INCREASING DATA SHARING BUT ALL 3216 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:51,680 THE SCIENTIFIC BENEFITS 3217 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:52,680 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WITH ALL 3218 01:52:52,680 --> 01:53:01,840 THE RESEARCH RESEARCH I MEAN. 3219 01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:01,960 >> 3220 01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:05,960 >> REALLY NICE PRESENTATION AND 3221 01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,600 REALLY NICE MANUSCRIPT. 3222 01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:09,240 I HAVE TWO COMMENTS. 3223 01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,760 I'LL DO ONE FOR NOW FOR THE SAKE 3224 01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:12,680 OF TIME AND THERE'S TIME WE'LL 3225 01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:13,840 COME BACK OTHERWISE WE CAN DO 3226 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,320 THIS OVER E-MAIL BECAUSE IT'S A 3227 01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:16,880 LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC TO THE 3228 01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,960 MANUSCRIPT MAYBE. 3229 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,760 THE ONE IS -- INTENTIONALLY, A 3230 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:27,840 LOT OF THE FOLKS HERE WAS ON 3231 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:30,400 DEVOICES, IMPLANTS THAT SORT OF 3232 01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:34,440 HAVE THE POSSIBILITY FOR 3233 01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:35,280 CONTINUATION BECAUSE THERE'S A 3234 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:37,840 COMMERCIAL VERSION OF IT OR 3235 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,680 THERE'S RECHARGEABLE VERSION OR 3236 01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:40,960 WHATEVER. 3237 01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:44,600 MOST OF THESE THINGS OR 3238 01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:45,680 THERAPIES COULD BE CONTINUED 3239 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:46,680 BECAUSE THE COMPANIES WILL BE 3240 01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,520 AROUND AND THERE ARE VERSIONS OF 3241 01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,200 COMMERCIAL VERSIONS THAT 3242 01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,960 RESEARCHERS AND PARTICIPANTS CAN 3243 01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:55,000 GET FOR EXAMPLE. 3244 01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,000 I THINK KIND OF LIKE MY 3245 01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:58,200 PREVIOUSLY COMMENT, WHERE ARE WE 3246 01:53:58,200 --> 01:53:59,240 GOING AND WHAT'S IN THE FUTURE 3247 01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,520 AND THERE'S MORE AND MORE OF 3248 01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:06,320 THESE ONE-OFFS START UP AND 3249 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,600 NEURO TEXT TYPES OF DEVICE AND 3250 01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,160 WE SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE. 3251 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,480 AND THESE THINGS ARE NOT 3252 01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:14,280 NECESSARILY REMOVABLE AND YOU 3253 01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:19,680 THINK OF THE STENTS AND THE 3254 01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:21,320 THREADS BEING SEWN INTO YOUR 3255 01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:21,520 BRAIN. 3256 01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,560 NUMBER TWO, IF IT DOESN'T 3257 01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:24,960 WORKOUT, THEY'RE ORPHANED AND 3258 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:25,600 STUCK IN PEOPLE. 3259 01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:27,280 THIS IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT. 3260 01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:30,080 WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE. 3261 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:32,200 ONE THOUGHT I HAD IN READING 3262 01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,920 SOME OF THOSE TABLES IN THE 3263 01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,920 MANUSCRIPT IS, IS THERE A 3264 01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,200 CONCEPT LIKE THERE'S A BENEFIT 3265 01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:40,840 AND RISK AND SOME OF THESE 3266 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,200 THINGS LIKE OK HAVING THESE 3267 01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:44,280 THREADS SEWN NO YOUR BRAIN HAS 3268 01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:46,880 RISK SO IT CAN ALL BE DELINEATED 3269 01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,760 AND APPROPRIATELY SO FOR 3270 01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,280 POTENTIAL PARTICIPANTS, BUT YOU 3271 01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,400 KNOW, HOW MUCH DO WE TALK ABOUT 3272 01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,120 FUTURE RISK OF BEING STUCK WITH 3273 01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:57,960 AN IMPLANT THAT'S NOT SUPPORTED, 3274 01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:59,120 ET CETERA. 3275 01:54:59,120 --> 01:54:59,960 IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AROUND BUT I 3276 01:54:59,960 --> 01:55:01,240 DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SORT OF 3277 01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:04,480 TRIED TO CALCULATE THIS CONCEPTS 3278 01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:05,360 OF FUTURE RISK AND TRIED TO 3279 01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:07,000 BALANCE IT BY SOME SORT OF 3280 01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:08,520 CURRENT BENEFIT. 3281 01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,040 IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THESE 3282 01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:12,600 FOLKS SHOULD BE GIVEN, PROMISED, 3283 01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,600 WHATEVER, UP FRONT, TO ACCOUNT 3284 01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,000 FOR THIS FUTURE RISK THAT 3285 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,040 THEY'RE TAKING, THAT IS VERY 3286 01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:20,280 CLEAR, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE KIND 3287 01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,880 OF ONE-OFF TYPE DEVICES. 3288 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,440 WE FACED THIS SITUATION BEFORE 3289 01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:28,040 BUT I'M NOT SURE WE CALCULATED 3290 01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:29,120 IT ASK TRIED TO BALANCE WITH THE 3291 01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:30,080 CURRENT WITH THE FUTURE. 3292 01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:31,320 IS THAT A THING? 3293 01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:34,880 IS THAT POSSIBLE? 3294 01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,360 >> I THINK IT'S A THING. 3295 01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:39,400 ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD 3296 01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:41,600 DURING THE WORKSHOP IS THAT, 3297 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:44,600 INFORMED CONSENT WHEN IT COMES 3298 01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,360 TO POST TRIAL NEEDS MIGHT 3299 01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:49,520 CURRENTLY NOT BE SUFFICIENT IN 3300 01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:51,760 TERMS OF, WE DON'T INFORM PEOPLE 3301 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:53,920 ENOUGH ABOUT RISK AND BENEFITS 3302 01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:55,360 THAT THEY MIGHT ENCOUNTER AFTER 3303 01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:57,800 THE TRIAL HAS ENDED. 3304 01:55:57,800 --> 01:55:59,600 THE RESEARCH REGULATIONS ALSO I 3305 01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:00,760 DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT 3306 01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:03,360 YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT IN 3307 01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:05,080 NEW CONTENT FOR EXAMPLE, AND I 3308 01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:06,720 THINK THERE WAS ONE OF THE 3309 01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:08,280 IMPORTANT TAKEAWAYS FROM THE 3310 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:09,520 MEETING IS THAT WE REALLY NEED 3311 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,360 TO DO BETTER ABOUT THE INFORMED 3312 01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:15,480 CONSENT WHEN IT COMES TO POST 3313 01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,600 TRIAL NEEDS WE WE NEED TO DO 3314 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,800 MORE AND WE DEFINITELY NEED DO 3315 01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:22,080 THAT. 3316 01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:23,360 >> ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME AND 3317 01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:24,480 YOU GUYS PROBABLY SEE THIS IN 3318 01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:25,560 YOUR OWN PRACTICE BECAUSE 3319 01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,960 HEARING FROM THE PATIENTS, THE 3320 01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:29,600 TWO PATIENTS TELLING US, GETTING 3321 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:31,280 THIS DEVICE WAS FOR THEM A 3322 01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:32,800 MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH. 3323 01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,880 IT WASN'T ABOUT MAKING THEIR 3324 01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:36,560 LIVES CRA MENTALLY BETTER IT WAS 3325 01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:37,680 ABOUT WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO 3326 01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,880 BE ALIVE TOMORROW. 3327 01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,600 AND I THINK PUT IN THOSE TERMS, 3328 01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:44,000 THE IMMEDIATE POTENTIAL BENEFIT 3329 01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,640 AND THE FUTURE RISK, I MEAN, 3330 01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:46,960 THERE'S ALMOST NO CALCULATION. 3331 01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:48,520 IF I WERE IN THAT POSITION, 3332 01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,560 THERE WOULD BE NO CALCULATION, 3333 01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:51,120 RIGHT. 3334 01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:53,160 SO THIS TO ME IS GOING TO BE 3335 01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:55,520 SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DEAL 3336 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:57,440 WITH BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AT WHAT 3337 01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:00,680 POINT ARE PEOPLE TRULY ABLE TO 3338 01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:02,160 MAKE, WHAT IS A GOOD DECISION, 3339 01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,040 IT'S NOT UP TO US TO MAKE IT FOR 3340 01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,840 THEM AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY 3341 01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:08,760 THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING POEM IN 3342 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,320 POSITIONS OF UNDUE INFLUENCE AS 3343 01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:10,880 WELL. 3344 01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,520 ALL THESE THINGS WRAPPED IN 3345 01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:14,360 TOGETHER IT'S A GREAT POINT YOU 3346 01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,040 RAISED BUT WHAT STRUCK HOME TO 3347 01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:17,480 ME WAS YEAH, THIS ISN'T JUST 3348 01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:18,920 ABOUT MAKING MY LIFE BETTER IT 3349 01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:20,520 WAS ABOUT BEING AROUND TOMORROW. 3350 01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,440 I THINK WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THOSE 3351 01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:24,000 TERMS, THOSE CALCULATIONS JUST 3352 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,880 KIND OF GO OUT THE WINDOW. 3353 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:26,720 >> RIGHT. 3354 01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:27,200 FOR SURE. 3355 01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,320 ON THE OTHER HAND THOSE ARE 3356 01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:30,120 ABOUT ABOUT THESE COMPANIES ARE 3357 01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:31,480 TALKING ABOUT ENHANCEMENT 3358 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,440 ALREADY, AND SO, WHEN IT'S LIKE 3359 01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:35,880 I'M OK NOW, OR I'M SOME STABLE 3360 01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:39,680 STATE, CAN I MACK MYSELF BETTER, 3361 01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:41,920 WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL UNKNOWN 3362 01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:43,960 FUTURE RISK OF THAT AND HOW CAN 3363 01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:45,120 YOU BALANCE THAT RIGHT NOW. 3364 01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,160 THERE'S A REFERENCE TO SOME 3365 01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:50,000 UNPUBLISHED THING BY GABE AND 3366 01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:51,360 ANOTHER THING FROM ANNA WE CAN 3367 01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:52,640 LER, MAYBE IT'S THE SAME THING, 3368 01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,000 THERE'S SO MUCH THAT IS NOT 3369 01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:56,360 ABSORBED DURING THE CONSENT 3370 01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:57,640 PROCESS AND THIS WOULD BE SO 3371 01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:02,840 EASY TO JUST GLOSS OVER. 3372 01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,240 EVEN A VERY SOPHISTICATED PERSON 3373 01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:07,000 PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION WOULD 3374 01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:08,280 NOT THINK WHAT HAPPENS YEARS 3375 01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:09,920 FROM NOW WHEN THIS COMPANY FOLDS 3376 01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:11,960 AND I'M STUCK WITH THIS THING. 3377 01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:12,320 ANYWAY, THANKS. 3378 01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:13,960 >> IT'S NOT A HYPOTHETICAL. 3379 01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:14,960 >> IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED AND 3380 01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,000 IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN, A 3381 01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:18,160 LOT. 3382 01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,360 >> I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT 3383 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:21,760 WITH RESPECT TO THAT THREAD. 3384 01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,760 IT'S NOT JUST THE PATIENT WHOSE 3385 01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,360 LIFE OR DEATH DECISION HAS BEEN 3386 01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:28,200 ENCOURAGED OR HELPED WITH THIS. 3387 01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:29,680 THEIR LIVES HAVE BEEN EXPANDED 3388 01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:30,760 IT'S THEIR FAMILIAR LOWS AS 3389 01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:31,120 WELL. 3390 01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:32,640 CAREGIVERS AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO 3391 01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:34,280 IMPACTED BY THAT PATIENT'S 3392 01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:35,640 BENEFIT FROM THIS DEVICE. 3393 01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:38,360 SO IT GOES EVEN BEYOND THAT. 3394 01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:39,920 >> VERY IMPORTANT POINT. 3395 01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:41,080 WE'RE OUT OF TIME BUT WE HAVE 3396 01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:42,400 TWO MORE HANDS UP SO WE'LL GO 3397 01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:44,440 WITH THOSE, HANK -- 3398 01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:46,520 >> GOOD, SO I LOVE THE WORKSHOP. 3399 01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,360 IT WAS A GREAT WORKSHOP. 3400 01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:50,440 PARTICULARLY HEARING FROM THE 3401 01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:52,320 PATIENTS PARTICIPANTS AND ALSO 3402 01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:53,520 BASICALLY EVERYBODY THERE WAS 3403 01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:56,120 VERY SYMPATHETIC BUT EVERYBODY 3404 01:58:56,120 --> 01:59:00,280 THOUGHT IT WAS A REAL HARD 3405 01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,720 PROBLEM. 3406 01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,720 I HERDS ABOUT THIS 15 YEARS AGO 3407 01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:06,400 WHO FROM HELEN WOULD WAS 3408 01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:07,840 DEDICATED TO THIS ISSUE FOR A 3409 01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:11,040 LONG TIME AND FROM THE BEGINNING 3410 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:11,680 OF THE NEWG, THIS IS ONE OF THE 3411 01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:12,760 THINGS WE WERE TALKED ABOUT AND 3412 01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:14,480 IT'S FRUSTRATING THAT WE HAVE 3413 01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,560 NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE MORE 3414 01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:23,720 PROGRESS AND I COMMAND IT TO 3415 01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:25,040 FUTURE NEWG CONSIDERATION AND 3416 01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:27,280 WONDER IF IT NEEDS TO BE HEALTH 3417 01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:28,560 WITH AT THE NEWG BECAUSE IT HAS 3418 01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:30,800 BRAIN INITIATIVE WHICH IS ON 3419 01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,320 MORAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND MAYBE 3420 01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:35,480 THERE SHOULD BE A NATIONAL 3421 01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:40,680 ACADEMY STUDY OF IT AND IT'S NOT 3422 01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:44,760 GOING TO COME STRAIGHT FROM 3423 01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:46,400 BRAIN INITIATIVE AND IT WILL 3424 01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,080 TAKE HIGHER AUTHORITIES TO WORK 3425 01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:49,640 SOMETHING OUT THAT WILL MAKE 3426 01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:54,520 THIS MORE ETHICALLY APPROPRIATE. 3427 01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:58,960 >> THANK YOU. 3428 01:59:58,960 --> 01:59:59,400 CAROLINE -- 3429 01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:00,760 >> THANK YOU, CHRISTINE AND 3430 02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:02,240 THANK YOU TO THE ORGANIZERS OF 3431 02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:03,560 THAT WORKSHOP. 3432 02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:07,160 NINA, WONDERFUL JOB SUMMARIZING 3433 02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:09,520 THE DISCUSSION THROUGHOUT THAT 3434 02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:10,000 WORKSHOP. 3435 02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:13,040 I LEARNED A LOT FROM IT AND I 3436 02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:14,960 REALLY APPRECIATED THE 3437 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,440 PERSPECTIVES THAT WERE BROUGHT 3438 02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,160 IN BY PATIENTS WHO HAVE BEEN 3439 02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:21,840 INVOLVED IN THESE STUDIES AS 3440 02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:23,160 WELL AS THE RESEARCHERS WHO WERE 3441 02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:26,080 DOING REALLY DEEP QUALITATIVE 3442 02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:27,640 INTERVIEWS WITH THESE PATIENTS 3443 02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:30,720 AS THEY'RE OUTGOING FROM THESE 3444 02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:31,360 STUDIES. 3445 02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:36,360 ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME FROM 3446 02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:37,880 SARAH GERRING AND GUPTA'S TALK 3447 02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:39,280 WAS THEY DISCUSSED PATIENT 3448 02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:39,880 COMMENTS ABOUT THEIR 3449 02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:43,680 RELATIONSHIP WITH RESEARCHERS, 3450 02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:45,680 SAYING THINGS LIKE, WE'VE BECOME 3451 02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:48,800 MORE LIKE FAMILY AND THAT 3452 02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:49,800 RESEARCHER-PATIENT BOND SOUNDS 3453 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:51,440 LIKE IT CAN DEVELOP INTO A DEEP 3454 02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:54,000 ONE AND RELATES TO THE EVOLUTION 3455 02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:54,760 OF THE INDIVIDUAL SOCIAL SIGH 3456 02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:58,360 DEN TEE OF THAT PATIENT AND THIS 3457 02:00:58,360 --> 02:00:59,440 SEEMS RELEVANT WHEN YOU THINK 3458 02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:00,920 ABOUT THE EXTENDED WELLBEING OF 3459 02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:02,760 THE PATIENT AFTER THEIR RECOVER 3460 02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:05,920 ROW FROM A SERIOUS ILLNESS. 3461 02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:07,120 WHEN I THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE 3462 02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,720 POINTS THAT YOU MENTIONED, NINA, 3463 02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:10,640 IN YOUR SUMMARY. 3464 02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:14,360 THE CLINICAL CONSULLATION ASPECT 3465 02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:16,000 OR SUPPORTING THE TRANSITION FOR 3466 02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:17,160 PATIENTS THAT DON'T GET POST 3467 02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:18,720 TRIAL ACCESS, I WONDER WHETHER 3468 02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:20,520 WE COULD ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT 3469 02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:22,600 THE ON GOING NEEDS OF PATIENTS 3470 02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:25,440 GO BEYOND THE TECHNICALITIES OF 3471 02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:31,920 THE DEVICE MONITORING AND POST 3472 02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,160 TRIAL RESPONSIBILITIES BEYOND 3473 02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:36,240 POST TRIAL ACCESS AND I JUST 3474 02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:37,840 WONDER IF WE CAN PULL THAT 3475 02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:38,360 THREAD A LITTLE BIT MOIR 3476 02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:39,400 STRONGLY BASED ON WHAT QUESTION 3477 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:45,880 HEARD FROM THAT WORKSHOP. 3478 02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:49,200 >> I CAN START. 3479 02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:52,680 I THINK AND EXCELLENT POINT AND 3480 02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:57,360 IT WAS NOT ONLY REITERATED FROM 3481 02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:00,320 SARAH AND E SHAWN PRESENTATION 3482 02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:02,280 BUT A PARTICIPATE SAID HE WOULD 3483 02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:06,200 DO ANYTHING FOR THESE 3484 02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:07,280 INVESTIGATORS BECAUSE OF WHAT 3485 02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,520 THEY'VE DONE FOR HIM, ONE SEAN 3486 02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:10,680 WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR HIM AND SO 3487 02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:12,560 I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT 3488 02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,440 POINT, THE RELATIONAL COMPONENTS 3489 02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:17,160 OR RELATIONSHIP-DRIVEN 3490 02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:18,200 COMPONENTS AROUND POST TRIAL 3491 02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:24,160 CARE THAT GO BEYOND THE 3492 02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:24,520 TECHNICALITIES. 3493 02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:26,640 >> I WANT TO RESPOND TO 3494 02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:27,840 CAROLINE'S IDEA ABOUT IT GOES 3495 02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:29,640 BEYOND ACCESS TO THE DEVICE AND 3496 02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:31,600 THERE ARE THESE SORT OF ADJACENT 3497 02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:33,360 NEEDS THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN 3498 02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:35,400 THE WORKSHOP EXPRESSED ARE 3499 02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,080 ALMOST AS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, 3500 02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:39,080 YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE 3501 02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:40,880 DEVICE BUT YOU NEED ACCESS TO A 3502 02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:41,840 SPECIALIST AND YOU NEED SOME 3503 02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:46,160 KIND OF COORDINATION OF CA AND A 3504 02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:48,240 LOT OF THINGS THAT GO AROUND THE 3505 02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:51,280 DEVICE THAT ARE NOT THE DEVICE 3506 02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:51,520 ITSELF. 3507 02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:53,200 SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS. 3508 02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:54,840 WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TURN 3509 02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,200 TO OUR LAST SESSION OF THE OPEN 3510 02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:58,840 SESSION, WHICH I'M GOING TO 3511 02:02:58,840 --> 02:02:59,240 TURNOVER TO HANK. 3512 02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:02,240 BEFORE I DO, I'M GOING TO STEAL 3513 02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:07,440 A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO PUBLICLY 3514 02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:08,160 THANK HANK FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AS 3515 02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:10,320 A CO-CHAIR OF THE BRAIN 3516 02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:11,160 NEUROETHICS WORKING GROUP. 3517 02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:13,080 FOR ME IT'S BEEN A TRUE 3518 02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:15,080 PRIVILEGE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH 3519 02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:16,720 HANK OVER THESE LAST SEVERAL 3520 02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:18,560 YEARS AND WE'VE BOTH FORMED THE 3521 02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:20,560 NEWG AND SAW IT INTO ITS 3522 02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:21,960 CHILDHOOD, I WOULD SAY. 3523 02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:24,240 SO I'M GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS. 3524 02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:27,480 AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, HANK IS A 3525 02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:29,200 DISTINGUISHED SCHOLAR WITH A 3526 02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:31,760 WIDE RANGE OF TALENTS AND 3527 02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:32,200 ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 3528 02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:33,840 HIS BIO SAYS HE SPECIALIZES IN 3529 02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:37,040 THE ETHICAL, LEGAL AND SOCIAL 3530 02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,600 IMPLICATIONS OF NEW BIOMEDICAL 3531 02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:41,120 TECHNOLOGIES, PARTICULARLY THOSE 3532 02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:43,640 RELATED TO GENETICS, ASSISTED 3533 02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:46,440 REPRODUCTION, AND NEUROSCIENCE 3534 02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:49,400 OR STEM-CELL RESEARCH, THAT'S A 3535 02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:51,520 WIDE RANGE OF STUFF. 3536 02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,360 HANK IS THE PROFESSOR OF LAW AT 3537 02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:55,840 STANFORD LAW SCHOOL AND A 3538 02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:57,720 PROFESSOR BY COURTESY OF 3539 02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:58,920 GENETICS AT STAN FORDS MEDICAL 3540 02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:01,320 SCHOOL AND HE IS ALSO THE 3541 02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:02,680 DIRECTING DIRECTOR OF THE 3542 02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:03,840 STANFORD FOR LAW AND BIO 3543 02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:07,080 SCIENCES AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE 3544 02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:08,680 STANFORD PROGRAM IN NEUROSCIENCE 3545 02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:09,320 AND SOCIETY. 3546 02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:11,440 HE HAS A FOUNDER AND PAST 3547 02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:14,440 PRESIDENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL 3548 02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:15,280 NEWER NEUROETHICS SOCIETY AND 3549 02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:17,640 CHANGE OF THE ETHICAL AND LEGAL 3550 02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:18,680 SOCIAL ISSUES COMMITTEE OF THE 3551 02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:20,920 EARTH BIO GENOME PROJECT AND 3552 02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:22,560 CHAIR OF CALIFORNIA HUMAN STEM 3553 02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:24,720 CELL RESEARCH ADD VOICE 3554 02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:26,720 RECOMMITTEE AND SERVED ON 3555 02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:28,240 COMMITTEES AND ADVISORY BOARDS 3556 02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:30,560 INCLUDING MANY FOR THE NIH. 3557 02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:34,160 HE IS ALSO PUBLISHED SEVERAL 3558 02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:38,120 BOOKS, INCLUDING ONE CALLED 3559 02:04:38,120 --> 02:04:41,080 "CRISPR PEOPLE," THE SCIENCE OF 3560 02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:42,680 EDITING HUMANS IN 2021 AND 3561 02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:44,480 ANOTHER IN 2016 CALLED" THE END 3562 02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:49,680 OF SE AND THE FUTURE OF HUMAN 3563 02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:50,040 REPRODUCTION." 3564 02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:51,120 BOTH GREAT TITLES OF BOOKS. 3565 02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:54,920 BUT FOR US, HANK HAS BEEN AN 3566 02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:56,240 INTEGRAL MEMBER AND LEADERS OF 3567 02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:57,880 THIS NEUROETHICS WORKING GROUP 3568 02:04:57,880 --> 02:04:59,040 SINCE ITS BEGINNING. 3569 02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:01,320 HE IS A MEMBER OF THE, AS YOU 3570 02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:02,600 HEARD ALREADY, A MEMBER OF THE 3571 02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:04,480 NIH BRAIN INITIATIVE MULTI 3572 02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:08,320 COUNCIL WORKING GROUP SINCE 2014 3573 02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:12,320 AND A GROUP HE HAS TERMED THE 3574 02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:14,120 MICK WIG, THAT TERM HAS CAUGHT 3575 02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:16,880 ON FOR OTHERS. 3576 02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:19,320 THEN IN MID TO LATE 2015, HE AND 3577 02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:26,320 I WERE ASKED BY WALTER CAROSH 3578 02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:30,080 ETS TO CO-CHAIR A MEMBER OF THE 3579 02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:31,360 MICK WIG AND WE WEPT THROUGH A 3580 02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:34,160 FEW DIFFERENT NAMES AND WE WERE 3581 02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:35,760 A SUBGROUP AND A DIVISION AND 3582 02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:38,160 WORKING GROUP AND WE SETTLED ON 3583 02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:40,320 WORKING GROUP AND AFTER A FEW 3584 02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:43,840 PHONE MEETINGS IN LATE 2015, 3585 02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:45,600 WITH MEMBERS WHO WERE INVITED TO 3586 02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:49,600 PARTICIPATE, MANY OF YOU WHO ARE 3587 02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:53,040 STILL HERE, WE HAD OUR FIRST 3588 02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:56,560 MEET NORTH FEBRUARY OF 2016 AND 3589 02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:59,200 IT SEEMS A LONG TIME AGO IN SOME 3590 02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:00,360 RESPECT AND JUST LIKE YESTERDAY. 3591 02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:04,920 SINCE THEN, WE'VE MET TWICE A 3592 02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:07,320 YEAR, USUALLY IN BETHESDA AND 3593 02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:13,040 ONCE ON STANFORD CAMPUS AND MORE 3594 02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:15,120 ON ZOOM. 3595 02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:17,560 HANK HAS LED US THROUGH A FEW 3596 02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:18,960 TOPICAL WORKSHOPS AND A COUPLE 3597 02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,720 OF IMPORTANT PUBLICATIONS, SOME 3598 02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:24,280 CHALLENGING CONSULTATIONS AND 3599 02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,760 LOTS OF ROBUST DISCUSSIONS. 3600 02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:29,040 HANK IS NOT ONLY AN ACCOMPLISHED 3601 02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:32,000 AND WISE POLY MATH BUT HE HAS A 3602 02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:36,200 WONDERFUL SENSE OF HUMOR AND A 3603 02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:37,280 DEEP REPERTOIRE OF INFORMATION. 3604 02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:40,080 SOME OF WHICH IS ACTUALLY 3605 02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:40,680 RELEVANT IN THE NEWG. 3606 02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:41,080 [LAUGHTER] 3607 02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:43,000 BUT NOT ALL OF IT. 3608 02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:44,680 SO, I WANT TO THANK YOU, HANK, I 3609 02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:45,520 DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE STILL 3610 02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:47,720 THERE, YOUR CAMERA IS OFF. 3611 02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:49,120 THANK YOU, HANK, FOR YOUR MANY 3612 02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:50,800 SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO 3613 02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:51,480 THIS GROUP. 3614 02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:52,880 WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT 3615 02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:54,320 YOU HAVE DONE. 3616 02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:55,640 WE HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU 3617 02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:57,720 AND GETTING TO KNOW YOU. 3618 02:06:57,720 --> 02:06:59,400 I WILL CERTAINLY MISS YOU. 3619 02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:01,880 BUT AS YOU KNOW WELL, WE WILL BE 3620 02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:04,120 IN GOOD HANDS WITH NITA, AS OUR 3621 02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:06,240 NEXT CO-CHAIR. 3622 02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:08,120 IF WE WERE NOT VIRTUAL AT THIS 3623 02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:11,520 POINT, I WOULD OPEN A BOTTLE OF 3624 02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:12,720 CHAMPAGNE AND TOAST TO YOU BUT I 3625 02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:15,520 OFFER A RAIN CHECK NEXT TIME YOU 3626 02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:17,400 ARE IN D.C. OR I AM IN 3627 02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:18,560 CALIFORNIA, WE CAN HAVE A BOTTLE 3628 02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:19,440 OF CHAMPAGNE. 3629 02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:20,800 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE 3630 02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:22,800 AND I WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY 3631 02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:25,160 TO JOIN ME IN THANKING HANK FOR 3632 02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:27,760 A WONDERFUL LEADERSHIP OF THIS 3633 02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:29,760 COMMITTEE. 3634 02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:31,840 >> WELL, THANK YOU, CHRISTINE 3635 02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:33,240 AND I TURN MY CAMERA OFF BECAUSE 3636 02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:39,320 I DON'T WANT IT KNOWN I CAN 3637 02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:39,600 BLUSH. 3638 02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:41,560 IT'S BEEN FASCINATING, IT'S BEEN 3639 02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:43,560 CHALLENGING BUT MOSTLY IT'S BEEN 3640 02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:44,040 FUN. 3641 02:07:44,040 --> 02:07:45,720 IT'S BEEN FUN BOTH BECAUSE THE 3642 02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,080 TOPICS ARE SO DEEPLY INTERESTING 3643 02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:49,240 AND BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 3644 02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:50,720 FUN TO WORK WITH. 3645 02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:53,560 THAT IS CHRISTINE BUT IT'S ALSO 3646 02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:54,600 EVERYBODY ELSE. 3647 02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:59,000 ALL THE MEMBERS, JOHN, WALTER, 3648 02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,440 TARA, NINA, AND ALL THE OTHER 3649 02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:02,840 PEOPLE I'M FOR GETTING, THANK 3650 02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:04,840 YOU FOR MAKING THE LAST SIX OR 3651 02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:07,920 SEVEN YEARS OF MY WORK MORE 3652 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:08,760 INTERESTING THAN IT OTHERWISE 3653 02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:10,800 MIGHT HAVE BEEN. 3654 02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:12,400 >>> BUT NOW I HAVE TO WORK SOME 3655 02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:13,840 MORE BECAUSE I'M SUPPOSED TO 3656 02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:15,120 MODERATE THE NEXT SESSION. 3657 02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:16,840 >> YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK 3658 02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:18,000 AND FINISH THIS MEETING. 3659 02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:19,360 >> TURNING IT BACK TO YOU. 3660 02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,840 >> OK. 3661 02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:22,680 WELL, THANK YOU, ALL. 3662 02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:24,400 OUR NEXT SESSION IS AGAIN 3663 02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:26,320 SOMETHING THAT WE REGULARLY DO 3664 02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:27,600 THE ROUNDTABLE UPDATE. 3665 02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,400 I'M GOING TO GO JUST IN THE 3666 02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:31,840 ALPHABETICAL LIST OF MEMBERS OF 3667 02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:33,040 THE NEWG AND SEE IF YOU'VE GOT 3668 02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:34,400 ANYTHING THAW THINK WE SHOULD 3669 02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:36,720 KNOW ABOUT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON 3670 02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:41,400 IN THE WORLD OF NEUROETHICS. 3671 02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:42,560 STARTING WITH WINSTON. 3672 02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:43,880 ALPHABETICAL BY LAST NAME NOT 3673 02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:44,560 FIRST NAME. 3674 02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:47,720 ARE YOU THERE? 3675 02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:53,680 >> ALL RIGHT. 3676 02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:53,840 JIM. 3677 02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:54,840 >> THANK YOU. 3678 02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:55,160 HANK. 3679 02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:56,360 REALLY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR 3680 02:08:56,360 --> 02:08:57,560 SERVICE AND HELP THROUGH OUT THE 3681 02:08:57,560 --> 02:08:59,080 YEARS AND YOU ARE INSIGHTS HAVE 3682 02:08:59,080 --> 02:09:01,000 REALLY BEEN CRITICAL TO HOW THE 3683 02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:04,160 NEWG HAS PERCEIVED BY THE 3684 02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:04,960 OUTWARD COMMUNITY AND 3685 02:09:04,960 --> 02:09:05,880 RESEARCHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. 3686 02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:07,480 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'LL 3687 02:09:07,480 --> 02:09:07,680 DONE. 3688 02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:09,360 I HAVE NO UPDATE. 3689 02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:10,120 THANK YOU. 3690 02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:12,680 >> NITA. 3691 02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:16,040 >> I'LL JOIN IN THE THANKS TO 3692 02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:16,280 YOU, HANK. 3693 02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:19,360 I WILL JUST SAY I HAVE NO 3694 02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:19,920 PARTICULAR UPDATES BECAUSE I 3695 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:25,320 HAVE BEEN FINISHED COMPLETING MY 3696 02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:28,240 BOOK WHICH IS OFF TO THE 3697 02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:31,000 PRESSES, REORDER THE "THE BATTLE 3698 02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:32,720 FOR YOUR BRAIN" WHICH TAKES THE 3699 02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:34,400 ISSUES LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT IN 3700 02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:37,920 NEURO TECHNOLOGY AND THE 3701 02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:39,440 IMPLICATIONS OF THINKING ABOUT 3702 02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:41,240 IT FROM A LEGAL AND ETHICAL 3703 02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:43,240 PERSPECTIVE SO THAT'S BEEN MY 3704 02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:44,800 PRIMARY FOCUS AND THAT AND 3705 02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:46,760 UPDATING THE CHARTER THAT HANK 3706 02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:48,560 AND I OWE AT THE END OF THE WEEK 3707 02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:54,160 ON NEUROSCIENCE FOR THE 3708 02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:55,560 SCIENTIFIC METHODS FOR MANUAL 3709 02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:56,120 JUDGES. 3710 02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:56,720 THAT'S ALL FOR ME. 3711 02:09:56,720 --> 02:10:00,280 >> SID. 3712 02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:02,880 >> I DON'T HAVE A LOT NEW TO 3713 02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:03,240 ANNOUNCE. 3714 02:10:03,240 --> 02:10:08,000 I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH VARIOUS 3715 02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:12,160 ORGS ON BRAIN DEATH AND 3716 02:10:12,160 --> 02:10:13,120 NON-HUMAN PRIMATE RESEARCH AND 3717 02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:16,400 ZENO TRANSPLANTATION. 3718 02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:17,800 AND THANK YOU, HANK, FOR YOUR 3719 02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:21,680 YEARS OF SERVICE. 3720 02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:23,640 >> ALL THESE THANK YOUS YOU 3721 02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:24,440 DELAYING THE BREAK. 3722 02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:26,800 >> CAROLINE, I KNOW YOU HAD 3723 02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:27,400 OPPORTUNITIES BUT IF THERE'S 3724 02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:29,520 ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO THROW 3725 02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,000 IN THAT IS HAPPENING IN 3726 02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:32,800 NEUROETHICS, THIS IS A GOOD 3727 02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:33,000 TIME. 3728 02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:34,720 >> THANK YOU, HANK. 3729 02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:36,520 YES, I THINK I HAVE SHARED THE 3730 02:10:36,520 --> 02:10:38,400 UPDATES THAT I HAVE COMING FROM 3731 02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:40,800 THE DANA AND JUST ALSO ECHOING 3732 02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:42,400 OTHERS IN THE THANKS TO YOU, 3733 02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:42,600 HANK. 3734 02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:44,440 I REMEMBER I THINK ONE OF MY 3735 02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:45,960 FIRST MEETING TO LEARN A LITTLE 3736 02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:47,040 BIT MORE ABOUT NEUROETHICS WAS 3737 02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:49,160 WITH YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS OF 3738 02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:51,680 THE NEWG AT THE TIME. 3739 02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:55,240 SO, VERY, VERY INPACTFUL AND 3740 02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:55,840 INFLUENTIAL SERVICE YOU HAVE 3741 02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:56,800 PROVIDED TO THE FIELD. 3742 02:10:56,800 --> 02:11:00,280 >> KAREN. 3743 02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:03,920 >> I'M DELAYING THE BREAK BUT 3744 02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:05,880 THANK YOU HANK FOR STEWARDING US 3745 02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:08,080 AND PIONEERING ALL THIS. 3746 02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:09,560 YOU ARE AMAZING CO-CHAIR TO KICK 3747 02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:12,680 US OFF AND I HAVE ALWAYS 3748 02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:14,240 APPRECIATED HOW WHEN WE WERE 3749 02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:16,000 WORKING WITH THE TEAM AND THE 3750 02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:18,160 VARIOUS SCIENTISTS YOU ALWAYS 3751 02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:21,840 HAD ASKED, WELL, HOW CAN WE BE 3752 02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:23,400 HELPFUL TO YOU AND WHAT CAN WE 3753 02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:26,720 DO TO PUSH US BEYOND OUR 3754 02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:28,120 INTELLECTUAL CURIOSITY AND HELP 3755 02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:29,760 GROW THE COMMUNITY. 3756 02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:32,000 I WILL SHARE TWO ACTIVITIES THAT 3757 02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:33,840 I THINK THAT ARE RELEVANT. 3758 02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:35,040 ONE IS THAT MANY OF YOU WORKED 3759 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:39,600 ON THE OECD RECOMMENDATION ON 3760 02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:41,440 RESPONSIBILITY INNOVATION FOR 3761 02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:42,960 NEURO TECHNOLOGY ADOPTED IN 3762 02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:44,760 DECEMBER OF 2019. 3763 02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:46,480 IT'S CURRENTLY IN ITS 3764 02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:49,080 IMPLEMENTATION PHASE SO ALL 38 3765 02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:50,400 MEMBER STATES ARE GOING TO BE 3766 02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:52,480 ASKED TO REPORT BACK ON HOW THEY 3767 02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:54,840 IMPLEMENTED THOSE STANDARDS. 3768 02:11:54,840 --> 02:11:56,760 OR THOSE PRINCIPLES AND AS PART 3769 02:11:56,760 --> 02:12:00,560 OF THAT EFFORT, THEY HAVE BEEN 3770 02:12:00,560 --> 02:12:01,840 WORKING WITH ORGANIZATIONS 3771 02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:04,840 CALLED BRAIN MIND, WHICH IS A 3772 02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:07,640 BIG ECOSYSTEM BUT REALLY UNIQUE 3773 02:12:07,640 --> 02:12:10,480 IN ITS INVESTOR AND START UP 3774 02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:10,920 COMMUNITY. 3775 02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,400 SO THEY'VE, TOGETHER, HOSTED AN 3776 02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:16,600 EVENT IN PARIS, THAT WAS ALSO 3777 02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:18,240 SHARED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE 3778 02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:21,400 DANA FOUNDATION AND WE EXPLORED 3779 02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:24,600 SOME CROSS SECTORAL INTEREST 3780 02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:25,200 COMMUNITY BUILDING AND 3781 02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:27,640 PRIORITIES FOR SOME WORKSHOPS 3782 02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:28,440 MOVING FORWARD. 3783 02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:30,040 THE SECOND EVENT I WANTED TO 3784 02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:33,200 MENTION IS ONE RELATED TO AN 3785 02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:40,840 ORGANIZATION CALLED JES GESDA WN 3786 02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:41,840 EXPERIMENT FROM THE SWISS 3787 02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,560 GOVERNMENT THAT PASSED ITS 3788 02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:45,120 THREE-YEAR PILOT PHASE AND HAS 3789 02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:47,080 PARTICULAR SPECIALTY IN 3790 02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:48,840 FORESIGHT AND ANTICIPATION AND 3791 02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:50,960 ONE OF ITS PRIMARY FORESIGHT 3792 02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:53,080 ACTIVITIES HAS BEEN IN NEURO 3793 02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:54,120 TECHNOLOGY AND THEY HAVE A 3794 02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:57,040 PROPOSAL FOR KIND OF A 3795 02:12:57,040 --> 02:12:58,120 OBSERVATORY CALLED THE NEURO 3796 02:12:58,120 --> 02:12:59,400 TECH COMPASS THAT WILL BE 3797 02:12:59,400 --> 02:13:01,000 ANNOUNCED AT THEIR ANNUAL SUMMIT 3798 02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:02,920 ON OCTOBER 12th THROUGH THE 3799 02:13:02,920 --> 02:13:04,280 14th IN GENEVA SO IF YOU ARE 3800 02:13:04,280 --> 02:13:05,360 INTERESTED IN THAT YOU CAN 3801 02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:07,440 REQUEST AN INVITATION AND I'LL 3802 02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:09,680 PUT THE WEBSITE IN THE LINK BUT 3803 02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:14,160 A VERY INTERESTING GROUP. 3804 02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:15,320 THANK YOU. 3805 02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:18,320 >> ELBA. 3806 02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:22,560 >> SAMIR. 3807 02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:23,960 >> HANK, THANK YOU. 3808 02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:25,480 I WON'T TAKE UP ANYMORE TIME 3809 02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:26,160 WITH THAT. 3810 02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:30,040 I'LL PUT SOME MORE IN THE CHAT. 3811 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,080 ONE QUICK THING THAT I FOUND 3812 02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:33,440 INTERESTING, LAST WEEK I WAS AT 3813 02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:36,200 THIS MEETING AND THE DBS 3814 02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:36,840 THINK-TANK AND I DON'T KNOW IF 3815 02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:37,760 PEOPLE HEARD ABOUT IT BUT 3816 02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:38,760 EVERYBODY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN 3817 02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:38,920 IT. 3818 02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:41,280 IT'S RUN BY THE UNIVERSITY OF 3819 02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:42,800 FLORIDA GROUP AND IT'S ANNUAL 3820 02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:43,720 RIGHT AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR 3821 02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:47,920 AND THERE'S ALWAYS A HYBRID 3822 02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:50,720 VERSION AND AND IT HIT SOUTHERN 3823 02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:54,120 FLORIDA SO THEY'RE GOOD AND 3824 02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:55,200 NEURO AND THERE'S ALWAYS A 3825 02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:56,800 SESSION ON NEUROETHICS THAT 3826 02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:58,440 TAKES HALF A DAY AND IT'S A REAL 3827 02:13:58,440 --> 02:13:59,520 SESSION OUT OF A TWO NIAGARA 3828 02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:04,600 FALLS DAY MEETING AND THIS YEAR, 3829 02:14:04,600 --> 02:14:06,280 SYDNEY WAS THERE AND IN THE PAST 3830 02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:07,480 OTHER FOLKS THAT YOU ALL KNOW 3831 02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:12,440 HAVE BEEN THERE AND FIRST OF 3832 02:14:12,440 --> 02:14:14,120 ALL, IT'S A GREAT MEETING AND 3833 02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:15,640 TUNE IN NEXT YEAR VIRTUALLY FOR 3834 02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:16,320 THAT SESSION. 3835 02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:18,040 BUT ONE POINT FROM THAT THAT I 3836 02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:19,840 FOUND REALLY FASCINATING, THE 3837 02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:22,480 LAST SESSION IN THAT MEETING WAS 3838 02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:25,680 ON LIKE NEURO TECH AND 3839 02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:26,880 COMMERCIAL VERSIONS OF IT AND I 3840 02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:29,320 SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD BUT 3841 02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:32,680 I'M SPOOKED ABOUT HOW F FAST THS 3842 02:14:32,680 --> 02:14:33,120 HAPPENED. 3843 02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:34,920 THE SAME MEETING A FEW YEARS AGO 3844 02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:36,800 WE DISCUSSED NEURO ENHANCEMENT 3845 02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:39,000 WITH IMPLANTS, ET CETERA, AND 3846 02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:40,160 KNEW NAN US INLY IT WAS LIKE OH 3847 02:14:40,160 --> 02:14:43,240 MY GOSH, ON THE ONE HAND IT'S 3848 02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:44,880 INEVITABLE AND IT'S A LONG WAYS 3849 02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:46,560 AWAY WITH DYSTOPIAN FUTURE 3850 02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:48,600 MOVIES LIKE WHO IS GOING TO DO 3851 02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:48,840 THAT. 3852 02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:50,120 JUST A FEW YEARS LATER IT'S 3853 02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:51,320 ALREADY HERE AND IT'S ACCEPTED 3854 02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:53,240 AND THE WHOLE TONE IS DIFFERENT, 3855 02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:54,600 WELL, IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM 3856 02:14:54,600 --> 02:14:56,320 JOIN THEM SORT OF THING LIKE WE 3857 02:14:56,320 --> 02:14:57,480 STILL BE BETTER PART OF THE 3858 02:14:57,480 --> 02:14:58,400 CONVERSATION AND BECAUSE THERE'S 3859 02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:02,360 A LOT TO FIGURE OUT AND WE DON'T 3860 02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:05,800 WANT THE CORPORATE BILLIONAIRES 3861 02:15:05,800 --> 02:15:06,920 TO DECIDE HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN. 3862 02:15:06,920 --> 02:15:09,240 SO, IT WAS EYE-OPENING FOR ME 3863 02:15:09,240 --> 02:15:10,000 AND INTERESTING. 3864 02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:11,920 I INVITE YOU ALL TO TUNE IN NEXT 3865 02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:12,280 TIME. 3866 02:15:12,280 --> 02:15:14,680 THERE'S A LOT OF FORD THINKING 3867 02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:15,600 NEUROETHICS THAT GOES ON WITH 3868 02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:20,240 THAT MEETING. 3869 02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:23,920 >> CHRISTINE, ANY UPDATES? 3870 02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:25,680 >> THE ONLY OTHER THING IS IF 3871 02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:27,720 PEOPLE MISSED IT, WHICH I DOUBT, 3872 02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:29,960 THERE WAS A VERY INTERESTING 3873 02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:34,000 PAPER ABOUT ORGAN X WHICH WAS A 3874 02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:36,760 SORT OF NEXT GENERATION VERSION 3875 02:15:36,760 --> 02:15:38,360 OF BRAIN X. 3876 02:15:38,360 --> 02:15:41,440 WHICH HAS HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR 3877 02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:42,200 TRANSPLANTATION AND OTHER THINGS 3878 02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:43,400 IN THE FUTURE. 3879 02:15:43,400 --> 02:15:44,800 IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, I WOULD 3880 02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:46,560 LOOK FOR IT. 3881 02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:48,840 >> CAN I ADD ONE THING TO THAT, 3882 02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:50,800 HANK, WHICH IS PART OF THE HUGE 3883 02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:53,440 IMPLICATIONS IT HAS, OF COURSE, 3884 02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:55,360 ARE PART OF I THINK THE 3885 02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:57,080 CONTROVERSY THAT WOULD BE GREAT 3886 02:15:57,080 --> 02:15:58,840 TO GET MORE FOLKS THAN ARE 3887 02:15:58,840 --> 02:16:00,240 CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN IT IS ON 3888 02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:03,120 OUR DEFINITION OF BRAIN DEATH. 3889 02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:05,040 AND SO I HAVE BEEN THE REPORTER 3890 02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:07,080 FOR WHAT'S CALLED THE UNIFORM 3891 02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:08,040 LAWS COMMISSION WHICH YOU KNOW 3892 02:16:08,040 --> 02:16:09,200 ABOUT BECAUSE YOU ARE INVOLVED 3893 02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:11,760 AS OBSERVERS ON THE COMMITTEE, 3894 02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:14,040 FOR UPDATING THE UNIFORM 3895 02:16:14,040 --> 02:16:17,400 DETERMINATION OF DEATH ACT. 3896 02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:19,200 THE LANGUAGE FOR BOTH 3897 02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:20,760 CIRCULATORY AND RESPIRATORY AS 3898 02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:22,200 WELL AS BRAIN DEATH. 3899 02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:23,560 AND IT IS, YOU KNOW, 3900 02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:24,480 CONSIDERABLY MORE CONTROVERSIAL 3901 02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:26,960 THAN I WOULD HAVE IMAGINED 3902 02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:28,880 ENTERING INTO IT AS SOMEONE WHO 3903 02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:30,280 REALLY HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT FROM 3904 02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:31,680 THE PERIPHERY BUT NOT SQUARELY 3905 02:16:31,680 --> 02:16:34,280 WITHIN THE DEBATE FOR THOSE IN 3906 02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:37,040 THE DEBATE A LOT LONGER YOU KNOW 3907 02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:37,720 THAT IT IS. 3908 02:16:37,720 --> 02:16:41,000 WE RECENT MEDIA COVERAGE OF THE 3909 02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:43,600 CASES AND SAYING THINGS LIKE 3910 02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:46,160 BRAIN DEAD AND LIFE-SUPPORT AND 3911 02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:48,320 CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS 3912 02:16:48,320 --> 02:16:51,400 AND CHANGES IN NEUROSCIENCE OVER 3913 02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:52,320 TIME AS WELL AS CHANGES 3914 02:16:52,320 --> 02:16:53,600 POSSIBILITIES WITH THINGS LIKE 3915 02:16:53,600 --> 02:16:55,640 BRAIN ACTS AND ORGAN ACTS THAT 3916 02:16:55,640 --> 02:16:57,280 CHALLENGE THOSE DEFINITIONS OF 3917 02:16:57,280 --> 02:17:01,040 DEATH AND THIS IS A GROUP AND 3918 02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:03,360 ENCOURAGE TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN 3919 02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:05,400 THE PROCESS AND WE'RE GOING INTO 3920 02:17:05,400 --> 02:17:06,680 OUR SECOND YEAR OF DRAFTING THIS 3921 02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:08,120 YEAR IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN 3922 02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:11,520 SERVING AS AN OBSERVER JUST 3923 02:17:11,520 --> 02:17:13,440 E-MAIL ME AND LET ME KNOW AND 3924 02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:14,960 WE'LL HELP TO GET YOU APPOINTED 3925 02:17:14,960 --> 02:17:17,080 BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE NEXT 3926 02:17:17,080 --> 02:17:19,920 GREAT BATTLE GROUNDS AND AFTER 3927 02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:25,600 THE DECISION THIS PAST YEAR. 3928 02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:32,960 >> AL I'LL THROW IN ONE MORE TH. 3929 02:17:32,960 --> 02:17:34,120 JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS 3930 02:17:34,120 --> 02:17:38,520 THERE'S A NEW STUDY OUT 3931 02:17:38,520 --> 02:17:40,480 STIMULATION AND SHOWING 3932 02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:45,480 REMARKABLY GOOD RESULTS AND WITH 3933 02:17:45,480 --> 02:17:46,440 120 AND HOW MANY WORDS CAN YOU 3934 02:17:46,440 --> 02:17:52,160 REMEMBER AND IT'S NOT DEEPEN 3935 02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:53,720 HANCEMENT AND STANDARD TEST. 3936 02:17:53,720 --> 02:17:55,800 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A 3937 02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:59,440 LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS 3938 02:17:59,440 --> 02:18:00,520 NON-INVASIVE ELECTRICAL 3939 02:18:00,520 --> 02:18:01,360 STIMULATION AND COMPANIES WERE 3940 02:18:01,360 --> 02:18:03,240 SELLING PRODUCTS AND I THINK 3941 02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:05,240 HALO MAY STILL SELL ITS PRODUCTS 3942 02:18:05,240 --> 02:18:08,280 AND I THINK THINK WENT OUT OF 3943 02:18:08,280 --> 02:18:09,920 BUSINESS AND BECAUSE OF THE NON 3944 02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:13,680 INVICVASE I HAVE NATURE IT RAISA 3945 02:18:13,680 --> 02:18:15,720 LOT OF THE KINDS OF ISSUES THAT 3946 02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:18,240 SAMIR WAS TALKING ABOUT IN A 3947 02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:20,600 LOWER TECH AND LESS INTRUSIVE 3948 02:18:20,600 --> 02:18:25,840 AND DIFFICULT WAY THAN THE INPUT 3949 02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:26,160 WOULD. 3950 02:18:26,160 --> 02:18:29,000 IT'S BEEN GETTING A LOT OF 3951 02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:31,800 ATTENTION AND THERE MAY BE 3952 02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:32,760 ANOTHER ROUND OF DISCUSSIONS 3953 02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:34,160 ABOUT THIS AND IT'S SOMETHING TO 3954 02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:35,040 KEEP AN EYE ON. 3955 02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:37,320 MY OWN VIEW IS LIVED THROUGH 10 3956 02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:39,120 OR 15 YEARS OF THESE AND SEEING 3957 02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:41,560 LOTS OF STUDIES SHOWING POSITIVE 3958 02:18:41,560 --> 02:18:43,440 EFFECT, NO EFFECTS, NEGATIVE 3959 02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:45,040 EFFECTS, I THINK WAIT AND SEE IS 3960 02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:48,640 THE RIGHT ANSWER FOR THIS NEWEST 3961 02:18:48,640 --> 02:18:49,120 STUDY. 3962 02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:50,440 I THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO 3963 02:18:50,440 --> 02:18:51,840 END UP, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE 3964 02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:54,320 THAT IT WILL END UP BEING MUG 3965 02:18:54,320 --> 02:18:55,760 THAT NEWG WILL WANT TO AND NEED 3966 02:18:55,760 --> 02:18:59,160 TO TAKE A LOOK AT. 3967 02:18:59,160 --> 02:19:03,080 OTHER ROUNDTABLE UPDATES? 3968 02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:08,440 NINA, SASS KEY A. AN SASKIA, ANU 3969 02:19:08,440 --> 02:19:09,520 TWO? 3970 02:19:09,520 --> 02:19:10,240 ALL RIGHT. 3971 02:19:10,240 --> 02:19:13,520 WELL, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR A 3972 02:19:13,520 --> 02:19:14,440 BREAK. 3973 02:19:14,440 --> 02:19:16,720 AND YOU GET 19 AND A HALF 3974 02:19:16,720 --> 02:19:17,200 MINUTES. 3975 02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:20,280 BE HERE AT 50 MINUTES AFTER THE 3976 02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:21,360 HOUR WHATEVER HOUR IT MAY BE. 3977 02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:23,440 >> ACTUALLY, THANK YOU ALL VERY 3978 02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:23,640 MUCH. 3979 02:19:23,640 --> 02:19:25,480 I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WE WILL 3980 02:19:25,480 --> 02:19:27,280 BE GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION. 3981 02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:30,200 SO THERE IS ANOTHER ZOOM LINK 3982 02:19:30,200 --> 02:19:31,520 FOR MEMBERS TO JOIN SO PLEASE, 3983 02:19:31,520 --> 02:19:33,800 LOOK FOR THAT IN THE CALENDER 3984 02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:35,800 INVITE OR IN THE E-MAIL THAT YOU 3985 02:19:35,800 --> 02:19:37,560 RECEIVED BUT WE WILL BE LEAVING 3986 02:19:37,560 --> 02:19:38,720 THIS ZOOM AND I ALSO WANT TO 3987 02:19:38,720 --> 02:19:41,760 THANK OUR VIDEO CAST COLLEAGUES 3988 02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:43,240 FOR THEIR, AGAIN, FLAWLESS 3989 02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:46,160 RUNNING OF THIS MEETING, WE 3990 02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:46,840 REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR 3991 02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:47,880 INVOLVEMENT IN THE BACKGROUND 3992 02:19:47,880 --> 02:19:48,800 AND TO EVERYBODY ELSE. 3993 02:19:48,800 --> 02:19:50,400 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 3994 02:19:50,400 --> 02:19:52,640 FOR ALL OF YOU IN THE OPEN 3995 02:19:52,640 --> 02:19:53,680 MEETING AND WON'T BE IN THE 3996 02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:54,760 CLOSED MEETING, THANK YOU FOR 3997 02:19:54,760 --> 00:00:00,000 COMING.