>>> GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S A PLEASURE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE OUR SPEAKER TODAY. DR. RANDY JIRTLE WHO IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING TO US ABOUT THE EPIGENETICS ON HOW GENES AND ENVIRONMENT INTERACT. HIS BACKGROUND IS HE GOT HIS Ph.D. ON RADIATION BIOLOGY AT UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN IN MADISON AND FROM THERE WENT ON TO THE DEPARTMENT OF RADIOLOGY AT DUKE UNIVERSITY WHERE HE SPENT HIS PROFESSIONAL CAREER. THERE ARE MANY CONTRIBUTION THAT IS DR. JIRTLE HAS DONE TO THE SCIENTIFIC FIELD AND SPECIFICALLY TO EPIGENETICS. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE, IT IS NOT FOR ME TO DESCRIBE. BUT THERE ARE TWO OF THEM THAT WERE CERTAINLY SALIENT IN MY BRAIN THAT LED ME TO SHOT WAY I THINK ABOUT THINGS AND THE WAY THAT WITHIN OUR INSTITUTE AT THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES AND PROGRAM REVIEWS, WE HELP GUIDE SCIENCE. THAT WAS THE PAPER WHERE HE FIRST DEMONSTRATED THAT IN PREGNANT RATS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY, MOUSE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THE LIKELIHOOD OF OBTAINING THE AGOUTI ON THE BASIS OF THE NUTRIENTS THE MOTHERS WERE GIVEN DURING THE PREGNANCY. SO THE NOTION YOU COULD HAVE A GESTATION ON A MOTHER TO TRANSFER TO THE NEWBORN COULD BE MANIPULATED BY ENVIRONMENTAL INTERVENTION THAT IN THIS CASE WAS PROVIDING THE DO NORS SO THE GENE COULD BE METHYLATED, COULD PERFECT THOSE ANIMALS FROM DEVELOPING THE PHENOTYPE. IT ILLUSTRATES THE CONCEPT WHICH WAS THAT THE DERMANISTIC ASPECT WHAT HAVE OUR GENES ARE, SO YOU'RE BORN WITH YOUR GENES, THIS MAKES YOU VULNERABLE, AND THEN THAT SHIFTS THE PARADIGM ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS PREVENTION OF DISEASES. AND HE CLEARLY ILLUSTRATED AN EXAMPLE OF HOW EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE GENETIC MUTATION BY ENVIRONMENTAL INTERVENTION, YOU CAN SILENCE THE EXPRESSION OF THAT MUTATION AND THAT WAS VERY, VERY TRANSFORMATIVE AND CRUCIAL IN KEEPING OR MAKING THE TIPPING POINT IN THE WHOLE AREA OF EPIGENETIC SCIENCE. ANOTHER VERY SEMINOLE CONTRIBUTION THAT ALSO GOT HARD WIRED INTO MY BRAIN WAS THE CONCEPT OF IMPRINTING. WITHIN EACH ONE OF US. AND IT WAS RECOGNIZED THAT SOME OF THOSE GENES WAS BELIEVED THAT RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER GOT IMPRINTED EARLY ON SO ONE WOULD BE SILENCED AND THE OTHER WOULD BE EXPRESSED. AND IN A SEMINOLE PAPER, HE DEMONSTRATED THAT USING A VERY COLORFUL ALGORITHM FOR EXTRACTING PROBABILITY OF IMPRINTING, HE DEMONSTRATED THE NUMBER OF GENES WAS GREATER THAN INITIALLY BELIEVED AND BY DEVELOPING THESE METHODS PROVIDED A TOOL FOR SCIENTISTS TO INVESTIGATE AND UNDERSTAND THE MECHANISMS BY WHICH IMPRINTING HAPPENS AND THAT HAS EXPLODED IN THE FIELD. SO IT'S A BIG PLEASURE FOR ME TO INTRODUCE DR. JIRTLE. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WILLING TO COME TO US AT NIH AND PRESENT YOUR WORK. [ APPLAUSE ] >> I WANT TO TRAFFIC YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL INTRODUCTION. I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN CHOOSING THE SPEAKERS FOR THE WALS LECTURE THIS YEAR AND INCLUDED ME AS ONE OF THEM, WHICH IS A REAL, REAL HONOR. AND FINALLY, I WANT TO THANK THE AUDIENCE. I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS FOR ME, FOR EXAMPLE, TO GET INTO NIH. SO I WON'T GO INTO IT. BUT IT WAS AN EYE-OPENER. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU BEING HERE, AND I ALSO APPRECIATE ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING AND WATCHING THE WEBCAST RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THAT IT TAKES TIME OUT OF A BUSY SCHEDULE TO DO THIS. AND IT SURE WOULDN'T BE VERY INTERESTING TO GIVE A TALK WHEN NOBODY IS THERE. SO I APPRECIATE THE AUDIENCE, VERY, VERY MUCH. NOW, I CHOSE THIS TITLE FOR A LOT OF REASONS. ONE, IT IS RELATIVELY VAGUE SO I CAN TALK ABOUT JUST ABOUT ANYTHING I WANT. BUT THE SECOND THING IS THAT IT INCLUDES THE WORD "ENVIRONMENT." AND I REALLY LIKE THIS WORD BECAUSE THE WORD, "ENVIRONMENT," REALLY MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS DEPENDING UPON THE ENVIRONMENT THE PERSON IS IN THAT IS THINKING ABOUT IT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE A NUTRITIONIST, IT CONJURES UP A ENVIRONMENT, BASICALLY A FOOD PYRAMID. WHEREAS IF YOU'RE A TOXICOLOGIST, YOU WHAT THINK ABOUT PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE A TOXIC WASTE SITE. THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENT. WHEREAS IF YOU'RE A PSYCHOLOGIST, OR PSYCHIATRIST, THE WORD "ENVIRONMENT" WOULD BE THE NURTURING ENVIRONMENT OF THE FAMILY AND THE SURROUNDINGS, ET CETERA. WHAT WE NOW KNOW VERY CLEARLY IS THAT ALL OF THESE ENVIRONMENTS ULTIMATELY IMPINGE UPON THE GENOME THROUGH THE EPIGENOME. AND THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, THE PHENOMENA OF THE EPIGENOME AND IMPORTANCE IN DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY. NOW, I ATTEND A LOST MEETINGS. AND AT ONE MEETING, AS WE WERE BREAKING, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES PICKED UP A VILE AND SHOWED IT TO US AS WE WERE LEAVING. AND HE SAID, THIS VIAL CONTAINS DNA. AND IT'S BEEN SITTING IN FRONT OF US FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS AND IT HASN'T DONE A DAM THING. JUST LIKE THE COMPUTER, BASICALLY OUR GENOME IS IMPOTENT WITHOUT THE SOFTWARE TELLING IT WHEN, WHERE AND HOW TO WORK. SO I, IN MY LIMITED WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THINGS, BECAUSE I GOT A DEGREE IN ENGINEERING AND COMPUTER SCIENCE, SO IT'S MUCH MORE RIGID MAYBE IN THOUGHT; I THINK THE CELL IS BASICALLY A PROGRAMMABLE COMPUTER. THIS IS WHY YOU CAN HAVE ONE GENOME HALF IN THE MOM AND HALF FROM THE DAD BUT STILL HAVE 250-300 DIFFERENT CELL TYPES ALL DOING DIFFERENT THINGS IN OUR BODY. WITHOUT THAT PROGRAMMABLE SYSTEM, YOU WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO CHANGE THE HARDWARE EVERY TIME YOU HAD A DIFFERENT CELL. AND SO TODAY, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE EPIGENETIC EFFECTS OF HOW GENES AND THE ENVIRONMENT INTERACT. NOW, I HAVE BEEN IN THE FIELD OF EPIGENETICS FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE ARE IN THE ERA OF EPIGENETICS BUT IT'S CLEAR WE ARE STILL IN THEERA OF GENOMICS. AND WE HEAR THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS THAT, WHY DO INDIVIDUALS VARY SUSCEPTIBILITY TOW DISEASES? A LOT OF TIME, MONEY AND EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO FIRST FINDING SINGLE NUCLEOTIDE POLYMORPHISMS OR MUTATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ARE ALTERED FIRST IN EXONS AND THEN INTRONS AND THEN PROMOTOR REGIONS AND OUT IN NEVER NEVER LAND. NOW THIS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL, PARTICULARLY IN THE FIELD OF CANCER. BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN AS SUCCESSFUL IN THE FIELD OF NEUROBIOLOGY. AND TO ME, A MUCH MORE FUNDAMENTALLY INTERESTING QUESTION IS, WHY DO MONOZYGOTIC TWINS, IDENTICAL TWINS, ALSO VARY THEIR SUSCEPTIBILITY TOW DISEASES IF THE ONLY THING IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS IS GENETIC VARIATION? ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE SAME GENOME, BASICALLY, THEY MORE THAN LIKELY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME EPIGENOME. YOU ASK, HOW CAN YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT EPIGENOME IN PROGRAMMING IF THEY ARE IN THE SAME WOMB? IT'S POSSIBLE, AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT BLOOD FLOWS TO THESE TWO IDENTICAL DEVELOPING EMBRYOS, AND THAT ENVIRONMENT NOW IS SHOWED BITE DIFFERENT COLORS OF THE WASHING WE HAVE IN THIS PAINTING. AND WE HAD THIS FOR THIS ENVIRONMENTAL GENOMICS MEETING THAT WE PUT ON IN 2005. AND SLIGHT VARIATIONS IN BLOOD FLOW CAN CHANGE, FOR EXAMPLE, NUTRITION. OR IT COULD CHANGE THE TOXICNESS THE INDIVIDUALS ARE EXPOSED TO. AS WE SHOW LATER, VERY SMALL CHANGES IN NUTRITION, AT FLEET ANIMAL MODELS, CAN HAVE PROFOUND EFFECTS ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY. NOW I LIKE THE HISTORY. ONE THING I WANT TO GO OVER BRIEFLY IS A HISTORY OF EPIGENETIC RESEARCH. THIS IS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE NOW. I GOT INTO THIS FIELD IN THE EARLY 90s. AND WHAT I HAVE HERE IS PLOTTED PUBLICATIONS, TOTAL PUBLICATIONS, AND FUNCTION OF TIME, YEAR. AND ON A LINEAR GRAPH. SO WHAT I DID FOR THIS IS, I WANTED TO SHOW THAT BASICALLY UP UNTIL AROUND THE YEAR 2000, THERE IS AN INFLECTION POINT AROUND 2005, RIGHT IN HERE, WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE BASICALLY NOTHING REALLY IS HAPPENING MUCH IN THE FIELD OF EPIGENETICS, TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S GOING VERTICAL AND A LOT IS HAPPENING -- HAPPENING IN THE FIELD. NOW IF YOU PLOT THIS RATHER THAN ON LINEAR PAPER, SEMI LOG PAPER, WHAT WILL FIND IS WHAT I'M SHOWING IS AN EXPONENTIAL GROWTH CURVE FOR PUBLICATIONS IN THE FIELD OF EPIGENETICS. AND THAT IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY, THERE IS A DOUBLING OF THE EPIGENETICS PAPERS EVERY 1 1/2-TWO YEARS. LAST YEAR ALONE, WE PUT INTO PUBLICATION SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15-20,000 PAPERS WHICH TOOK US 15 YEARS FROM 1990 TO 2005. NOW THIS IS RESULTED IN SOME OF WHAT I WOULD CALL, MORE ENLIGHTENED SCIENTISTS, TO MAKE THESE FOLLOWING COMMENTS. EPIGENETICS IS NOW THE HOTTEST THING IN BIOSCIENCE. THAT'S ME. AS NORA POINTED OUT, I BASICALLY HAVE DONE WORK IN EPIGENETICS IN TWO AREAS, ONE IS IN GENOMIC IMPRINTING, PARTICULARLY EVOLUTION OF THIS PHENOMENA. IMPRINTED GENES ARE MONOLITHIC EXPRESSED. AND SINCE THERE IS ONLY ONE COPY OF THESE GENES THAT IS FUNCTIONAL, YOU DO NOT NEED TWO HITS TO KNOCK OFF THE FUNCTION. YOU ONLY NEED A SINGLE HIT. AND THAT SINGLE HIT CAN BE BOTH MUTATIONAL OR EPIGENETIC AND DEPENDING UPON THE GENE, CAN EITHER INCREASE OR ELIMINATE THE FUNCTION OF THESE GENES. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THESE MONO'LILLICALLY EXPRESSED GENES ARE ALL DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY LOCI AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND DISEASES UNTIL WE HAVE DEFINED THE REPERTOIRE OF THESE GENES THAT WE HAVE IN HUMANS, BECAUSE THEY VARY GREATLY BETWEEN SPECIES. IT'S IMPORTANT WE WORK IN THE SPECIES WE ARE INTERESTED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY, WHICH IS THE HUMAN. THE OTHER AREA THAT I WORK IN AND HAVE DONE A LOT, AND THIS IS WHAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY MOST OF THE TIME NOW, IS THE FETAL ORIGINS OF ADULT DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY. SO THERE IS A LOT OF EVIDENCE, BOTH IN ANIMAL MODELS AND ALSO IN HUMANS THAT DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN BUT MUCH OF IT OCCURS VERY EARLY IN DEVELOPING. MAYBE OFTEN VERY EARLY TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE TALKING RIGHT AFTER FERTILIZATION. AND THAT TWO GOLD STANDARDS THAT I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN HUMANS THAT SUGGEST THIS, THESE ARE SITUATIONS THAT I CALL THEM NATURAL EXPERIMENTS. YOU WOULD NEVER WANT TO BE IN BECAUSE THEY ARE HORRIFIC. BUT THEY OCCURRED AND WE NOW HAVE PEOPLE THAT WENT THROUGH THIS AND THEY ARE BEING USED AS TO SHOW AND DETERMINE THE FETAL ORIGINS OF ADULT DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY. ONE THE IS THE DUTCH FAMILIAR CHIN OCCURRED AT THE END OF THE WORLD WAR II WHEN NAZIS PUT EMBARGO ON HOLLAND. DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THERE WAS A SEVERE RESTRICTION, IT WAS A VERY, VERY COLD WINTER AND THE SEVERE RESTRICTION IN NUTRIENTS AND 16,000 APPROXIMATELY OR MORE PEOPLE DIED. NOW SOME PEOPLE WERE IN UTERO DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME. AND THEY LATER FOUND AS THEY FOLLOWED THESE PEOPLE THAT FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THEY WERE BORN, THEY WERE OFTEN OF SHORT STAATURE AND LOW BIRTH WEIGHT. BUT LATER ON IN ADULTHOOD, THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEY HAD FIRST OF ALL, IT SHOWED INCREASED INCIDENTS OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE AND OBESITY AND THEN DIABETES AND INTERESTINGLY, A DOUBLING OR TRIPLING OF THE INCIDENTS OF SCHIZOPHRENIA. NOW, ANOTHER ONE OF THESE NATURAL EXPERIMENTS OCCURRED, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE LATE 50s AND EARLY 60s, IN CHINA. IN THIS SITUATION, 20-40 MILLION PEOPLE DIED AND BASICALLY WHEN FOLLOWING THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE IN UTERO DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THEY ALSO SHOWN BASICALLY THE SAME TYPE OF SCENARIO AGAIN WITH THE DOUBLING OR TRIPLING OF THE INCIDENTS OF SCHIZOPHRENIA. SO SEVERE LACK OF FOOD OR NUTRITION, MATERNAL NUTRITION, PARTICULARLY DURING THE FIRST TRIMESTER OF DEVELOPMENT, RESULTS IN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN PSYCHOSIS. BUT UP UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, THE STATE-OF-THE-ART OF THIS FIELD, I THINK IS VERY NICELY SHOWN BY ONE OF MY FAVORITE CARTOONS, BY SIDNEY HARRIS, WHICH IS THEN A MIRACLE OCCURRED. SO WE KNOW BACK HERE THERE WAS A SHORTAGE OF FOOD, NUTRITION. OUT HERE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT -- IN TIME, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY. BUT WHAT IS THE GRAVITY OF THE MEMORY SYSTEM THAT HOLDS THOSE TWO TIME POINTS TOGETHER? IT WAS NOT KNOWN UP UNTIL JUST RECENTLY AT LEAST IN ANIMAL MODELS. AND THAT MIRACLE INVOLVES EPIGENETIC MODIFICATIONS. THIS PAPER THAT WE PUBLISHED IN 20003, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TO SOME DEGREE, WAS TRANSFORMATIONAL, NOT ONLY FOR THE FETAL ORIGINS OF ADULT DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY, BUT ALSO FOR THE FIELD OF EPIGENETICS. BECAUSE IT WAS VERY CLEAR INITIALLY SLOWLY AND GAINING MOMENTUM NOW, THAT THE LARGE TENTH OF EPIGENETICS BASICALLY CAN ENCOMPASS ALL BIOLOGICAL RESEARCH. SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU GET THIS EXPONENTIAL RISE IN PUBLICATIONS IS NOT BECAUSE OF PEOPLE OF MY AGE, EXPONENTIALLY DOING MORE AND MORE RESEARCH, BUT IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE FIELD OF EPIGENETICS DOING RESEARCH. SO, WHAT IS EPIGENETICS? EPIGENETICS LIKE EPICENTER JUST MEANS, ABOVE, IN THIS CASE, GENETICS. AND EPIGENETICS RESEARCH REFERS TO THE STUDY OF HERITABLE CHANGES IN GENE FUNCTION THAT OCCURRED WHERE OCCUR WITHOUT A CHANGE IN THE SEQUENCE OF THE DNA. THE TWO MAIN COM PONENCE OF THIS EPIGENETIC CODES ARE CYTOSIN METHYLATIONS IN THE 5 PRIME OF GUY 19 AND DNA AND RAPID AROUND THE NUCLEOSOME COMPRISED OF HISTONES AND THERE ARE MYRIADS OF MARKS ON THESE HISTONE TAILS THAT EITHER CAUSE THE CHROMATIN TO BE CONDENSED OR LOOSE, SO IN CONCERT WITH THE DNA METHYLATION, THE CHROMATIN IS EITHER CONDENSED AND NONFUNCTIONAL OR OPEN AND FUNCTIONAL. AND THIS IS BASICALLY THE CHEMICAL PROGRAMMING THAT OCCURS ON THE CELL BASIS THAT ALLOWS A LIVER CELL TO BE A LIVER CELL AND A BRAIN CELL TO BE A BRAIN CELL. I'M NOW GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THESE AGOUTI MICE. AND IT CONTAINS WHAT IS CALLED A METASTABLE EPIALLELES. I CALL THESE AGOUTI SISTERS. THESE ANIMALS ARE GENETICALLY IDENTICAL BECAUSE THEY ARE INBRED. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS MOUSE AND THIS MOUSE IS WHAT THE MOTHER WAS FED WHILE THEY WERE IN UTERO. IN THIS CASE, THE MOTHER ATE NORMAL MOUSE CHOW. IN THIS CASE, THE MOTHER ATE NORMAL MOUSE CHOW THAT WAS SUB MEANTED WITH VITAMIN B12, COALINE, FOLIC ACID. IF YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO ANIMALS, THEIR GENETICALLY ARE IDENTICAL, THEY ARE AGED MATCHED AND BOTH GHEE MAIL. AND IT APPRECIATES THE IMPORTANCE OF EPIGENETICS AND DISEASE SUSCEPTIBILITY. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THERE ISN'T ANY HOPE FOR YOU. THERE ISN'T A BETTER VISUAL MODEL TO DEMONSTRATE THIS. I WANT TO GO A LITTLE MORE INTO THIS NOW BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE USE THIS -- I ALMOST THINK OF THIS AS BEING A BIOSENSOR, A COLOR BIOSENSOR COMPARABLE TO THESE LIQUID CRYSTALS WHEN YOU PUT YOUR HAND ON IT AND THEY CHANGE COLOR. AND WE HAVE THAT NOW. THAT SYSTEM, AND WE CAN LOOK AT ANY KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL EXPOSURE AND ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT ALTERS THE EPIGENOME. AND WE CAN SEE IT NOT ONLY IN CODE COLOR, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE ALSO AT THE LEVEL OF DNA METHYLATION. SO FOR EXAMPLE, NORMAL HAIR FOLLICLE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS AND GROWS AND AT THE END OF THE HAIR FOLLICLE DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE THE AGOUTI GENE IS TURNED ON AND YOU PUT A LITTLE BAND OF YELLOW AT THE BASE OF A BLACK HAIR SHAFT. AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, WE NOW SEE THAT MOUSE AS BROWN OR AGOUTI RATHER THAN BLACK. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WORK WITH C57 MICE, WHICH ARE BLACK, THE REASON FOR THIS IS THE AGOUTI GENE IS MUTATED. BUT IF THIS REGION IN THIS STRAIN OF MICE IS AB LOCUS AGOUTI MICE, A TRANSPOSABLE ELEMENT UMPING UP STREAM OF THIS GENE, AND SET UP AN ECTOPIC START SITE FOR TRANSCRIPTION OF THE AGOUTI GENE. SO, WHEN THIS REGION IS COMPLETELY U.N. METHYLATED, THE AGOUTI GENE IS TURNED ON INAPPROPRIATELY IN ALL CELLS OF THE BODY, INCLUDING THE BRAIN, BUT ALSO IN THE HAIR FOLLICLE AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, YOU GET THESE COMPLETELY BLONDE MICE. WHEREAS THIS REGION IS TOTALLY METHYLATED EARLY ON, YOU GO BACK TO NORMAL REGULATION OF THE AGOUTI GENE AND YOU GET WHAT ARE CALLED PSEUDOAGOUTI BROWN MICE. IF THE DECISION, STOCHASTIC DECISION IS MADE LATER ON AFTER THERE ARE SOME CELL DIVISION, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING THIS MODELING APPEARANCE WHERE ONE CELL IS HYPOMETHYLATED AND THE OTHER CELL IS HYPERMETHYLATED. SO IT LOOKS ALMOST LIKE A CALICO CAT. SO YOU HAVE GOT THIS VARIATION IN COAT COLOR TOTALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE DEGREE OF METHYLATION AT THE IAP. SO ROB, WHEN HE WAS IN THE LABORATORY, HE IS NOW DOWN AT BAYLOR. HE WAS A POSTDOC AT THIS TIME IN MY LAB. HE DID A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT EXPERIMENT, AND THAT IS, HERE YOU HAVE THE MOTHER EATING CONTROLLED CHOW. AND YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE ANIMALS ARE YELLOW OR NEARLY YELLOW. AND ABOUT 20-30% OF THEM ARE BROWN OR HEAVILY MODELED. WHEREAS, WHEN YOU SUPPLEMENT THE MOTHER'S DIET ALL THESE GROUPSA THAT COME INTO THE CYTOSIN, THEY SHOWED A FEW SLIDES BACK, COMING FROM YOUR DIET. DIET IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND MAINTAINING THE GOOD NUTRITION DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE OFFSPRING IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN HAVING PROPER DEVELOPMENT. WHEN YOU SUPPLEMENT THE DIET, YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY THAT THE DISTRIBUTION OF OFFSPRING'S COAT COLOR IS SHIFTED TOWARDS BROWN AND HAVE YOU MANY FEWER NOW THAT ARE OVER IN THE YELLOW OR NEARLY YELLOW. YOU HAVE TAKEN A NORMAL DISTRIBUTION AND SHOVED IT TOWARDS THE BROWN. BECAUSE THESE BROWN ANIMALS NO LONGER BECOME OBESE AND OBESE ANIMALS ALSO GET DIABETES AND CANCER. BY SUPPLEMENTING THE MOTHER'S DIET, YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY ALTERED N-THIS CASE, REDUCED THE INCIDENCE OF THESE CHRONIC DISEASES. WHY THESE ANIMALS HAVE BECOME OBESE IS BECAUSE THEY INAPPROPRIATELY EXPRESS THE AGOUTI GENE IN THE SABRATION CENTER OF THE BRAIN AND THESE ANIMALS NEVER KNOW THEY ARE FULL SO THEY LITERALLY EAT THEMSELVES INTO OBESITY, DIABETES AND CANCER. YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER PREDICTED A COAT COLOR GENE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN OBESITY, BUT IN THIS AND DIABETES AND CANCER, BUT IN THIS MOUSE STRAIN THAT IS THE CASE. THAT WAS IMPORTANT, VERY EXCITING. BUT THIS WAS THE PART OF THE STUDY THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND THAT IS THAT THIS CHANGE IN COAT COLOR WAS SHOWN TO BE BASICALLY COMPLETELY DEPENDENT UPON THE DEGREE OF METHYLATION AT THIS CRYPTIC START SITE IN THE CONTROL OF THE AGOUTI GENE. SO IN THE CONTROL DIET, WHEN MOTHERS ARE EATING JUST NORMAL CHOW, THESE ARE CPG SITES IN THIS REGION HERE. THESE ARE THE CELLS THAT ARE METHYLATED. YOU CAN SEE THAT NORMALLY YOU HAVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CELLS OR ANIMALS. THESE ARE ALL THE OFFSPRING. IT'S ABOUT 100. HAVE VERY LOW LEVELS OF METHYLATION WHICH CORRELATES WITH THE FACT THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ANIMALS ARE YELLOW OR NEARLY YELLOW WHEN THEIR MOTHER ATE CONTROLLED DIETS. WHEREAS WHEN YOU SUPPLEMENT THE DIET WITH METHYL DONORS, EVEN THE UNTRAINED EYE AND WITHOUT STATISTICS, YOU CAN SEE THAT HAVE YOU GREATLY INCREASED THE AVERAGE METHYLATION AND THAT IS VERY HIGHLY CORRELATED AND ASSOCIATED WITH THE FACT THAT NOW MOSTLY OFFSPRING, MAJORITY OF THEM ARE BROWN OR NEARLY BROWN. SO SIMPLY CHANGING THE MOTHER'S DIET, EARLY IN DEVELOPMENT, ALTERED DISEASE SEPTEMBER BUILT NEADULTHOOD -- SUSCEPTIBILITY IN ADULTHOOD THROUGH ALTERING THE EPIGENOME. SO WE OFTEN ASK THE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE, WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT, NATURE OR NURTURE? I THINK THIS STUDY VERY CLEARLY SHOWS IN THIS SITUATION, WE REALLY ARE GETTING NATURE BY NURTURING. NOW, I WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS SORT OF MORE GRAPHICAL. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AGOUTI COAT COLOR DISTRIBUTION, THE STUDY I JUST SHOWED YOU, IT'S SORT OF A NORMAL DISTRIBUTION. FEW TOTALLY BROWN. A FEW TOTALLY YELLOW WITH THE MOST HAVING SOME DEGREE OF MODELING. IF YOU SUPPLEMENT THE MOTHER'S DIET WITH METHYL DONORS LIKE DR. WATERMAN DID, YOU SHIFT THIS COAT COLOR DISTRIBUTION SO YOU HAVE MANY MORE BROWN OFFSPRING. THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN ALSO SHOWED THAT THE PHYTOESTROGENNIC COMPOUND AT LEVELS PRESENT IN ASIAN DIET. ALSO IS CAPABLE AND DOES SHIFT THIS COAT COLOR DISTRIBUTION TOWARDS BROWN. WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS, THIS DOES NOT DONATE A METHYL GROUP. SO THERE ARE COMP POUNDS THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO ALTER THIS EPIGENETIC RESPONSE THAT ARE NOT METHYL DONORS THEMSELVES. THE MECHANISM BY HOW THIS OCCURS, WHAT IS THE SIGNAL TRANSDUCTION PATHWAY FOR THIS IS PRESENTLY UNKNOWN BUT VERY IMPORTANT TO ULTIMATELY DETERMINE IT. THEN HE DID ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT STUDY. IT'S THE FIRST ONE DONE WITH THIS SYSTEM THAT LOOKED AT A ENVIRONMENTAL TOX IICANT AND ENDOCRINE DISRUPTING AGENT WHICH IS USED TO MADE HARD, CLEAR PLASTICS. IN THE OLD DAYS, THE BIG BLUE PLASTIC CONTAINERS REALLY HAD WATER IN THEM. THEY WERE MADE FROM PHENOLS. IN THIS SITUATION, SHE CLEARLY SHOWED THIS PHENOL IN LEVELS IN MICE THAT WE'RE EXPOSED TO IN OUR PLASMAS, YOU GET A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE INCIDENTS OF YELLOW MICE. THIS IS NOT GOOD. THIS IS DUE TO HYPOMETHYLATION. AS MEMORY REMEMBER, THESE ANIMALS HAVE HIGHER INCIDENTS OF OBESITY, DIABETES AND CANCER. DID DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST VERY LONG. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MITIGATE THE NEGATIVE EFFECT OF THIS ENVIRONMENTAL TOX IICANT BY SUPPLEMENTING THE MOTHER'S DIET WITH METHYL DONORS OR JENSTEIN. SHE SHOWED THIS NEGATIVE EFFECT COULD BE ELIMINATED BY SUPPLEMENTITATION OF THE MOTHER'S DONOR -- DIET. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE NOW, AND I THINK THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING PART OF THIS WHOLE STUDY THAT THE FIELDS OF TOXCOLOGIY AND NUTRITION HAVE MERGED. JOINED AT THE HIP AND BEING THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SAME COIN. AND ALSO DEMSTRAITS BLOCK SOME OF THE NEGATIVE EPIGENETIC EFFECTS WITH THE VERY NUTRITION THAT WE EAT. THIS BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK, BECAUSE IT POTENTIALLY ALLOWS IN THE FUTURE FOR MEDICINE TO START GOING AWAY FROM THINKING ABOUT COMPLETELY THERAPEUTIC APPROACHES TO LIFE AND POTENTIALLY EVEN STARTING TO THINK MORE ABOUT PREVENTING DISEASES. NOW, AS IT WAS SAID, LET FOOD BE THY MEDICINE AND MEDICINE BE THY FOOD. I THINK THIS STUDY REALLY SHOWS THAT AT LEAST IN MICE THAT NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL TOX IICANT THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE EPIGENETIC MODIFICATIONS CAN BE MITIGATED BY BASICALLY FOOD ADDITIVES AND NUTRITION THAT INDEED FOOD IS MEDICINE, AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE BARRIER OF RESEARCH IN THE FUTURE. SO, WE DEFINITELY KNOW WE ARE WHAT WE EAT. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY PUT A DOUGHNUT SHOP FROM MY LAB AND I DO KNOW WHERE THEY GO. I THINK MAYBE I'LL STOP THERE. BUT, I HOPE AFTER THIS VERY, VERY SHORT INTRODUCTION THAT YOU APPRECIATE WE MIGHT NOT ONLY BE WHAT WE EAT, WE MIGHT ALSO BE, TO SOME DEGREE, WHAT OUR MOTHER WAS EXPOSED TO WHILE WE WERE IN UTERO, AND SINCE THERE IS EVIDENCE FROM OTHER INVESTIGATORS THAT THESE EPIGENETIC MARKS ARE NOT ALWAYS TOTALLY ELIMINATED WHEN THEY ARE PASSED THROUGH THE EGG AND SPERM, THAT THERE IS IN OTHER WORDS POTENTIAL FOR TRANSGENERATIONAL INHERITANCE OF EPIGENETICS EVENTS THAT WE MIGHT BE WHAT OUR GRAND PARENTS AND GREAT GRANDPARENTS WERE EXPOSED TO. I'M NOW GOING TO END THIS THAT YOU CAN WITH SOME DATA WE JUST REALLY JUST GOTTEN INVOLVING THE RADIATION EFFECTS ON THE EPIGENOME. AND THIS WORK WAS STUDIED OR SUPPORTED BY THE DOE LOW-DOSE RADIATION RESEARCH PROGRAM AND A GRANT THAT WE GOT FROM THE O'KEEFE FOUNDATION. AS I SAID, MY BACKGROUND IS IN RADIATION BIOLOGY AND NUCLEAR ENGINEERING. SO THE WORK THAT I'M DESCRIBING NOW BY AUTUMN BERNAL WHO IS A GRADUATE STUDENT IN MY LAB AND SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED HIS Ph.D. BASED ON THE STUDIES I'VE BEEN SHOWN TWO WEEKS AGO. IT'S EXCITING BECAUSE WHAT IT HAS DONE IS BROUGHT THE FIELDS OF RADIATION BIOLOGY AND FIELDS OF EPIGENETICS TOGETHER. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THIS IS? THIS IS AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION. >> [ INDISCERNIBLE ] IT'S A REACTOR CORE. WHY IS THIS BLUE LIGHT HERE? >> [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> THIS IS SHRINK OFF RADIATION. BECAUSE ELEC TONS ARE GOING FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN THE MEDIA OF WATER. I WAS A REACTOR OPERATOR WHETHER I WAS AN UNDERGRADUATE LICENSED AT THAT TIME BY THE ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION. I HAVE SEEN THIS. IT'S THE PUREST BLUE YOU WILL EVER SEE. AND IT'S ALMOST MESMERIZING, SORT OF LIKE LOOKING AT A FIRE IN A FIREPLACE. >> [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL EPIGENETIC STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE THUS FAR ARE NOT MANY. WE HAVE DONE ONE I DESCRIBED AND THIS ONE I DESCRIBED AND THIS ONE I DESCRIBED. THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL STUDY WITH ETHANOL, AND THAT STUDY ALSO SHOWED THAT 10% ETHANOL IN THE DRINKING WATER RESULTED IN FORMATION OF HYPERMETHYLATION AND BROWN MICE TO A HIGHER INCIDENCE. BUT SO THIS IS PROTECTIVE FROM THIS STANDPOINT. BUT ALSO IN THIS STUDY, THEY FOUND ALSO INCREASED INCIDENCE EVER CRANIOFACIAL DEVELOPMENTAL PROBLEMS. SO THE IMPORTANT POINT OF THIS IS HYPERMETHYLATION AT ONE LOCUS MIGHT BE ADVANTAGEOUS BUT AT ANOTHER, IT MIGHT NOT BE. AND THE OTHER THING THAT IS INTERESTING IS IN-VITRO CULTURE WHICH HAS BEEN SHOWN IN HUMANS, THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT IN-VITRO FERTILIZATION RESULTS IN INCREASED INCIDENTS OF SYNDROMES THAT YOU SAUCEEE IN THIS SITUATION, HYPE OR METHYLATION IS INCREASED IN THE YELLOW ANIMALS. NOW ALL OF THESE STUDIES WERE DONE WITH CHEMICALS AND THEY ARE ALL DONE AT SINGLE DOSES. THE ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION SPECTRUM GOES ALL WAIT FROM HIGH-ENERGY COSMIC TRIES VERY LOW ENERGY RADIO WAVES. AND THE ONLY PHOTONS, BASICALLY, THAT ARE CALLED IONIZING RADIATION, ARE THOSE UP HERE IN THE HIGH FREQUENCY AND HIGH-ENERGY, BECAUSE EACH PHOTON POSSESS ENOUGH ENERGY TO BREAK A BOND. SO THIS TYPE OF RADIATION IS BASICALLY A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD FOR US T IS VERY ADD VENTAGEES FROM A DIAGNOSTIC STANDPOINT, THERAPEUTIC STANDPOINT, ET CETERA, BUT ALSO SHOWN ALREADY IN THE 20s BY BUELLER, THAT IT CAUSES MUTATIONS AND MANY PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN THAT SINCE THEN. SO GENOMIC CHANGES ARE INDUCED, STRAND BREAKS, DNA MUTATIONS, ET CETERA, BY IONIZING RADIATION. BUT WE WANTED TO LOOK THEN AT THE EFFECTS OF LOW-DOSE RADIATION ON THE EPIGENOME. AND THE TYPES OF EXPOSURE THAT IS WE HAVE, IF EUROPE TO LOOK AT PEOPLE AT THE END OF THE 20 OR BEGINNING OF THE 20th CENTURY, YOU BASICALLY ALL YOU WOULD HAVE IS EXPOSURE FROM NATURAL SOURCES. AND AN ABSORBED DOSE TYPE OF UNIT, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO ABOUT .3 CENTER GRADE OR 200 MILLIONS -- I'M USING AN OLDER VERSION OF DOSE UNIT. BUT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE 21st CENTURY, THE LEVEL OF RADIATION WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOUBLED BECAUSE OF THE USE OF DIAGNOSTIC RADIATION IN OCCUPATIONAL RADIATION FROM WORKING IN REACTORS, ET CETERA. SO NOW, OUR TOTAL DOSE ON THE AVERAGE WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 500-600 MILLI RAMS 4.6 CENTER GRADE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABSORBED DOSE. SO RADIATION INDUCED DAMAGE OCCURS PRIMARILY THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT MECHANISMS. THERE IS A DIRECT ACTION AND INDIRECT ACTION. SO IF RADIATION AND PHOTON COMES WITH ENOUGH ENERGY NOW TO KNOCK OUT AN ELECTRON, OR TO DIRECTLY INTERACT WITH THE DNA, YOU CAN HAVE DNA DAMAGE THAT IS DIRECT. THIS IS DIRECT EFFECT. BUT THIS IS ABOUT 20% OF DNA DAMAGE IS CAUSED BY THIS MECHANISM. 80 CONSPIRACY CAUSED BY WHAT IS CALLED INDIRECT ACTION WHERE THIS ELECTRON NOW DOESN'T INTERACT DIRECTLY WITH THE DNA BUT RATHER IT INTERACTS WITH A MOLECULE OF WATER CREATING HYDROGEN FREE RADICALS. AND THEN THESE HYDROGEN FREE RADICALS DIFFUSE OVER AND CAUSE THE DAMAGE. SO, LOOKING AT THE STUDY NOW THAT THIS IS WORK THAT NOW HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR PUBLICATION, LOW-DOSE RADIATION EXPOSURE USING THE VIABLE YELLOW AGOUTI MICE. THIS IS THE SCHEMATIC OF HOW THIS STUDY WAS DONE. AT 4.5 DAYS AFTER TIME PREGNANCIES, RADIATION WAS DELIVERED. AND THEN AT BASICALLY 21 DAYS THE ANIMALS ARE BORN AND THEN TISSUES WERE COLLECTED OUT HERE AT 43 DAYS AND AT THAT POINT, YOU CAN DETERMINE WHETHER THE ANIMALS IN YELLOW OR BROWN. AND THEN YOU GET THIS TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION AGAIN OF THE COAT COLOR DISTRIBUTION WHEN'S YOU'RE NOT EXPOSED TO ANYTHING. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT EXPOSURE TO RADIATION, HERE WE IS HAVE GOT RADIATION DOSES GOING FROM ZERO UP TO 7.6 CENTER GRADE. TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, MAMMOGRAMS WOULD BE DOWN HERE. NATURAL BACKGROUND RADIATION, REMEMBER THIS IS A SINGLE DOSE BUT OVER A YEAR IS SOMEWHERE IN HERE. A CT SCAN WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 1-2 CENTER GRADE IN HERE. AND THE FIRST EVIDENCE BASICALLY OF RADIATION CAUSING CANCER IS GOING TO BE IN THE TENS OF CENTER GRADES. SO IT IS OUT HERE. SO AUTUMN DID THESE STUDIES. THE FIRST THING SHE LOOKED AT WAS COAT COLOR AND CLEARLY SHE SAW WAS A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT AREIOLEO. THESE ARE OFFSPRING NOW. SO THIS CURVE, THIS IS DISAPPEARING. CONCOMBINANT WITH THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF BROWN MICE TO THE POINT THAT WHEN YOU'RE AT 1 1/2-1.4 OR SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1-3 CENTER GRADE, HAVE YOU 14 TIMES AS MANY BROWN MICE AS YOU HAVE YELLOW MICE. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO VERY LOW DOSES OF IONIZING RADIATION. AND IN FACT, AT 7.6, THERE IS ACTUALLY NO YELLOW MICE AND BROWN MICE YOU CAN'T EVEN DETERMINE THE RATIO BECAUSE IT'S INFINITE. BUT IT'S INTERESTING AT THIS POINT. I DON'T SHOT DATA, BUT YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THIS DISTRIBUTION GO BACK. THE REASON THIS DROPPED IS YOU'RE NOW SEEING A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF MODELED ANIMALS. SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THE DISTRIBUTION IS BEING SHIFTED OVER TO BROWN DURING LOW DOSES UP TO AROUND 3 CENTER GRADE AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS STARTING TO COME BACK. WE COULDN'T GO TO HIGHER DOSES BECAUSE OF LETHALITY OF THIS SYSTEM. BUT THERE WAS NO SELECTION OF OFFSPRING AT THIS POINT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT METHYLATION, THE SIGNAL IS HIGHLY CORRELATED TO THE FORMATION OF THE BROWN ANIMALS WHICH ARE ARE HYPERMETHYLATED. SO, LOW DOSES OF IONIZING RADIATION DURING EARLY GESTATION INCREASED THE INCIDENTS OF BROWN AVY OFFSPRING IN THE SEX AND DOSE DEPENDENT MANNER. I FORGOT DO SAY THIS IS A MALE MOUSE. IN FEMALE MICE THERE IS NO EFFECT AT ALL OVER THESE DOSES. AND THIS IS CENTERED WITH INCREASE IN DNA METHYLATION AT THE AGOUTI LOCUS. SINCE BROWN AVY MICE HAVE A REDUCED INCIDENCE OF OBESITY, DIABETES AND CANCER, AS COMPARED TO THOSE IN YELLOW ANIMALS, THIS MEANS THAT LOW DOSES OF RADIATION AND A POSITIVE ADAPTIVE RESPONSE THROUGH ALTERCATIONS IN THE EPIGENOME. NOW AS I SAID, 80% OF DNA DAMAGES IS IN THE GENERATION OF FREE RADICALS, OXYGEN FREE RADICALS. SO THE POSTLAT WAS THEN THAT MAYBE ANTIOXIDANT SUPPLEMENTATION WOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE THIS EFFECT THAT WE ARE SEEING OF LOW DOSES OF IONIZING RADIATION. SO HERE YOU HAVE GOT THE YELLOW AND BROWN MICE AT A RATIO OF ABOUT ONE AND WHEN THEY ARE SHAM ERATED OR NO RADIATION AT ALL. SHAM DOESN'T CAUSE ANY EFFECT. THEN IF YOU EXPOSE THE ANIMALS TO 3 CENTER GRADE, YOU GET ABOUT 14 TIMES AS MANY BROWN ANIMALS AS YOU HAVE YELLOW ANIMALS. AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE 3 CENTER GRADE AND YOU ADD ANTIOXIDANTS TO THE MOTHER'S DIET, YOU COMPLETELY MITIGATE THIS EFFECT THAT YOU HAVE OF IONIZING RADIATION ITSELF. IF YOU LOOK AT DNA METHYLATION, AGAIN, YOU SEE HERE AT ZERO DOSE SHAM OR ERADIATED, HAVE THE SAME AND THIS IS PERCENT METHYLATION. YOU ADD 3 CENTER GRADE OF RADIATION AND YOU SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF METHYLATION IN LINE WITH THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MANY MORE BROWN ANIMALS IN THE OFFSPRING POPULATION. THEN IF YOU ADD 3 GRADE PLUS ANTIOXIDANTS, YOU GET THE DEGREE OF METHYLATION BACK DOWN TO NORMAL, WHICH IS YOU WHAT EXPECT GIVEN THAT THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT ARE BROWN AND YELLOW ARE BASICALLY IDENTICAL AND THE SAME IS YOU WHAT SEE IN UNERADIATED SITUATIONS. SO MATERNAL ANTIOXIDANT SUPPLEMENTATION MITIGATES INCREASE IN DNA METHYLATION AND THE INCIDENTS OF BROWN AVY OFFSPRING CAUSED BY LOW-DOSE IONIZING RADIATION EXPOSURE DURING EARLY GESTATION. OUR FINDINGS PROVIDE EVIDENCE ALSO THAT THE POSITIVE ADAPTIVE EPIGENETIC RESPONSE INDUCED BY LOW-DOSE RADIATION IS MEDIATED IN PART TO OXIDATIVE STRESS. I MUST TELL YOU THAT THESE RESULTS WERE UNEXPECTED WHEN WE FIRST STARTED. BUT THEY ARE TRUE. I WANT TO END THIS TALK NOW WITH A LITTLE TALK ABOUT RISK ASSESSMENT RADIATION DISCOVERED IN 1895. AND IN 1896 HE TOOK THE X-RAY OF HIS WIFE'S HAND. IT WASN'T LONG THEREAFTER THAT X-RAYS WERE USE TO SET BONES THAT WERE BROKEN, ET CETERA. BUT THE EARLY RAIDOLOGISTS USED TO TUNE UP THEIR UNITS USING THEIR OWN HANDS. AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE AFTER A NUMBER OF TUNINGS, THEY RAN INTO PROBLEMS WITH NECROSIS, ULTIMATELY NOT ONLY NECROSIS, BUT CANCER. SO THE BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS, NEGATIVE ONES OF HIGH DOSES OF RADIATION WERE VERY APPARENT. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT LOW DOSES OF RADIATION, AND LOOK AT EPIGENETIC EFFECTS, WHAT THIS IS BASICALLY AVY HYPOMETHYLATION, IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF IT AS YELLOW MICE GOING THIS WAY. WE HAVE INCREASED NUMBERS OF BROWN MICE AND DECREASES IN HYPOMETHYLATION OR INCREASES IN HYPERMETHYLATION. SO YOU WHAT HAVE IS A CURVE THAT GOES LIKE THIS. AND WE THINK, ONLY GUESSTIMATING, BECAUSE AT 7.6 IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING BACK. THIS CURVE IS CROSSING 00 SOMEWHERE AT 10 CENTER GRADE OR ABOVE. SOMEWHERE IN HERE. AND THEN GOES UP INTO THE HIGHER DOSES, WHERE OTHER INVESTIGATORS HAVE UNIFORMLY SEEN HYPOMETHYLATION AND ALSO AN EFFECT THAT IT IS MORE PREVALENT IN MALES THAN IN FEMALES. THIS SORT OF BYE PHASIC DOSE RESPONSE CURVE OR HOCKEY-SHAPED DOSE RESPONSE CURVE, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE HORR MEDIC DOSE RESPONSE CURVE, BUT IT IS NOT CONSISTENT IN THE LINEAR KNOWN THRESHOLD MODEL WHICH SAID THAT EVERY DOSE OF RADIATION IS PROBLEMATIC. THIS IS NOT THE CASE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT EPIGENETIC CHANGES. SO QUESTIONS IN FUTURE STUDIES. THESE ARE MY SORT OF BIASES AND THINGS THEY THINK ARE GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE. ONE QUESTION IS, DOES LOW-DOSE RADIATION EXPOSURE ALTER THE HUMAN EPIGENOME? REMEMBER ALL OF THIS IS DONE IN MICE AND WE HAVE ONLY LOOKED AT ONE METE STABLE EPIALLELE. ANOTHER BIG QUESTION, IF YES, ARE THE CHANGES IN THE EPIGENOME INHERITED TRANSGENERATIONALY -- THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. A BIG QUESTION. SO HOW DO YOU DO THIS? I BELIEVE THAT THE BEST POPULATION, HUMAN POPULATIONS FOR ADDRESSING THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS WILL BE THE HIROSHIMA AND NAG SAKI ATOMIC BOMB SURVIVORS AND THEIR OFFSPRING. THESE ARE AVAILABLE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT LOOKING AT THEM FROM THE STANDPOINT OF EP JET NEIC MODIFICATIONS -- EPIGENETIC MODIFICATIONS. I WANT TO END, THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE, WITH A SLIDE I CALL, FOOD FOR THOUGHT. SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CHEW ON AND THINK ABOUT AFTER YOU LEAVE THIS LECTURE. ONE OFONE OF THEM A QUOTE BY A PHYSICIST AND THE OTHER BY A PHILOSOPHER. THE PHYSICIST IS JOHN CANNON AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN WHO DEVELOPED THE FIRST SOLID STATE LITHIUM FLUORIDE RADIATION DETECTION SYSTEM AND STARTED THE VERY FIRST RADIATION HEALTH PHYSICS DEPARTMENT AT THE UW. AND LATER TOWARDS THE END OF HIS LIFE, HE WROTE THIS. I AM NOW ALMOST CERTAIN THAT WE NEED MORE RADIATION FOR BETTER HEALTH. AND THE SECOND QUOTE, WHAT DOES NOT KILL ME, MAKES ME STRONGER. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? [ APPLAUSE ] >> YOU COVERED A LOT OF GROUND. YOU MAKE SOME OF THIS FROM THE STUDIES. SO IS THE PROSYOU ARE SUGGESTING, VERSATILE? AFTER SOME MUTATIONS LIKE ME -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] COULD IT BE EFFECTED BY SOME OF THE ANTIOXIDANT EFFECTS? >> IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE SAYING IN ADULT ANIMAL THAT HAS A NEGATIVE EFFECT, YOU CAN YOU REVERSE THAT IN ADULT ANIMALS? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOBODY LOOKED AT IT. WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPING FETUS AND THE PROGRAMMING THERE BUT WE HAVE NEVER ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN DOING THIS, I WISH SOMEBODY WOULD. BECAUSE WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ASK THIS QUESTION, I WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT. >> AND THE SECOND QUESTION REGARDING THE NAG SAKI -- THAT HAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST STUDIED POPULATIONS IN TERMS OF THE RECENT EXPOSURE AND THE EFFECTS ON ALL OF THE ISSUES RELATED TO CANCER AND OTHER THINGS. SO DID ANYBODY LOOK AT THE DEGREE OF METHYLATION OF SOME OF THE GENES IN THIS CATEGORY OF JAPANESE VICTIMS? >> IT'S NEVER BEEN LOOKED AT EPIGENETICALLY. THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT ARE GENETIC MUTATIONS. AND MOST OF THE EXPOSURES ARE QUITE HIGH WITHIN THE TENS OF HUNDREDS. 500 RAD OR A CENTER GRADE IS LETHAL IF YOU GET IN THE WHOLE BODY, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THAT. THAT'S THE EDGE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. SO THESE ARE DOWN IN PROBABLY THE TENS OF RADS TO HUNDREDS OF CENTER GRADE. BUT THERE WERE ABOUT 6000 CHILDREN THAT WERE ACTUALLY EXPOSED IN UTERO. MY GUESS, I DON'T FINISH FOR A FACT, THOSE EXPOSURES WILL BE LOWER OTHERWISE MIGHT NOT HAVE MADE IT THROUGH. AND THOSE WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF EP JET GENETIC MODIFICATIONS AND PARTICULARLY SEEING WHETHER THERE IS ANYTHING YOU CAN FIND THAT THEY WILL BE CARRIED THROUGH FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION. THAT'S ALL I KNOW. THERE IS NO OTHER INFORMATION KNOWN. THIS IS THE VERY FIRST OF MY KNOWLEDGE OF EPIGENETIC EFFECTS EVEN IN THE ANIMAL MODELS THAT HAS BEEN DONE AT THIS LOW OF DOSE OF RADIATION. >> DOES THE EFFECT OF RADIATION EFFECT THE -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> WHAT? >> RADIATION OF OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL AFFECTS SUGGESTING EFFECT THE -- >> [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> YOU MEAN A DIRTY GUIDELINE I DON'T KNOW. WE DIDN'T SEQUENCE. THAT IT'S UNLIKELY BUT IT COULD HAPPEN -- DIRTY GENE. >> VERY WONDERFUL TALK. I HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN THE WHOLE SCHIZOPHRENIC ATTITUDE TOWARDS RADIATION. PEOPLE USE RADIATION FOR HEALTH EFFECTS. RADIATION IS COMMON? >> PEOPLE WITH HIGH LEVELS OF RADIATION IN THEIR SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENTS STEAM HAVE LOWER INCIDENTS OF CANCER. A LOT OF DATA ALONG THESE LINES. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> SO, AT SOME POINT, JOHN THOUGHT THIS POINT WE ARE READY FOR A PLACEBO-CONTROLLED DOUBLE-BLIND STUDY OF RADIATION IN HUMANS AT LOW DOSES TO LOOK AT POSITIVE HEALTH EFFECTS. BUT AGAIN, WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE LINEAR THRESHOLD THEORY WHICH SAYS THAT AT ANY DOSE, RADIATION IS HARMFUL TO US. FROM A CLINICAL STANDPOINT, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR ME, AS A PHYSICIAN, TO BE ABLE TO GET A PROTOCOL PUT FORTH WHERE I CAN GIVE LOW-DOSE RADIATION WITHOUT -- AND LOOK FOR EFFECTS ON INFLAMMATION OR CELLULAR EFFECTS THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN LIGHT OF SOME OF THE -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> I THINK WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO, FOR ONE, AS I SAID BEFORE, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THESE PHENOMENA AT THE AGOUTI LOCUS, THEY ARE POSITIVE ADAPTIVE EFFECTS. WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHETHER HYPERMETHYLATION GOING TO BE POSITIVE AT ALL METASTABLE ALLELE POSITIONS. THEY WE DON'T KNOW. WE ONLY LOOKED AT ONE. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE EPIGENOMES IN HUMANS AND MICE FOR EXAMPLE, ARE GREATLY DIFFERENT. WHICH MEANS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT THE EPIGENETIC LABEL TARGETS ARE GOING TO BE IN HUMANS. WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THEM. I WOULD PUT MY EFFORT INITIALLY ON THESE REGULATORY ELEMENTS AND GENES. THEY ARE GOOD BIOSENSE EXPOSALS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. AND WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THESE ARE ALTERED IN HUMANS. AND AS I SAY, WE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WORKS FOR US THROUGH OUR DOSES OF IONIZING RADIATION OR EXPOSE IN UTERO. OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER STILL PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO THINK ABOUT USING IONIZING RADIATION AS A POSITIVE EFFECT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF HEALTH. AS I SAID, I DID NOT PREDICT THIS. I DID NOT EXPECT THIS. BUT IT'S WHAT WE SEE. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF THESE VARIOUS RADIATION DURING PREGNANCY. AND I WAS WONDERING, WHETHER POST PREGNANCY TREATMENTS CAN REVERSE THESE EFFECTS AT ALL OR WHETHER WE ARE ESSENTIALLY DOOMED BY WHAT OUR PARENTS DID TO US? >> THERE IS WHAT WAS ASKED BEFORE AND MY ANSWER STILL IS, NOBODY HAS REALLY DONE THIS. THESE ARE VERY INTERESTING STUDIES TO DO. AND I WOULD HOPE -- THERE ARE A LOST YOUNG PEOPLE OUT THERE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE WATCHING THIS WEBCAST. THESE STUDIES NEED TO BE DONE. I WILL NOT PROBABLY DO THEM. BUT, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR A VERY INTERESTING TALK. WE ARE STARTING TO WORK ON THE EFFECTS OF RADIATION ON EPIGENETIC MARKS AND BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A PERFECT FIELD TO USE THE EPIGENETIC TECHNOLOGY TOW TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EFFECTS ARE OF THESE RADIATIONS. JUST TO GET FROM THE MOLECULAR BIOLOGY PERSPECTIVE, BUT THE ONLY THOUGHT THAT OCCURRED TO ME AS A NATION, I'M COMING FROM BROOKHAVEN NATIONAL LABORATORY WHERE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THE EFFECTS OF RADIATION ARE CURED AND THERE WERE SCIENTISTS THAT WERE PROPOSING THAT LOW DOSES OF RADIATION MAY BE BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THEY PRIME THE MACHINERY OF THE CELL IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND BETTER IF IT IS EXPOSED TO A LARGE IN SOLE. SO MY QUESTION COMES AROUND THE CONCEPT, IN THAT HEREY, EVEN WHEN I WAS A AT BROOKHAVEN A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF CONTAMINATION FOR RADIATION. WHAT HAPPENS WHAT HAPPENED RECENTLY, RUSH YEAH, BUT NOW IN JAPA AS SOON AS IT HAPPENS, IS THERE ANY INFORMATION, ANY PARTICULAR CENTRES WORKING ON THESE TYPE OF QUESTIONS? >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOBODY IS WORKING ON THIS. ONCE THIS GETS OUT THERE THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE WORKING ON IT. THE OTHER THING IS THAT HISTORICALLY, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT TO SCIENTISTS IN GENERAL, BECAUSE I HAVE TO ADMIT I WAS GUILTY OF THIS MYSELF. I HEARD ABOUT THIS PHENOMENA PROBABLY 20 YEARS AGO AND I THOUGHT, TO USE A NICE TERMINOLOGY, IT WAS BS. I DON'T THINK THAT ANYMORE. AND THE RATIONAL FOR IT WAS, WELL, THERE IS NO MECHANISM THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THIS TO OCCUR. BUT NO MECHANISM MEANS IT REALLY IN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NO KNOWN MECHANISM, THAT WE KNOW AT THAT TIME. IT APPEARS THAT ONE MECHANISM THAT ALLOWS FOR THIS RESPONSE TO OCCUR IN INDIVIDUALS AND IN ANIMALS, IS EPIGENETIC ADAPTATIONS AND SABLIZATION OF THE EPIGENOME IN RESPONSE TO RADIATION AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOX I CANTS. EVEN THEE THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. WE CAN BLACK THIS POSITIVE EFFECT NOW AT THIS ONE LOCUS, BY ANTIOXIDANT. WE COULD WE ALSO BLOCK THE THE INCREASE IN BROWN ANIMALS WE SEE THEN THE MOTHERS 68 TOOK IN METHYL DONORS? IS THERE A COMMON MECHANISM WHERE ALL OF THESE ARE GOING IN THROUGH THE GENERATION OF FREE RADICALS? THAT'S WHAT THE CELL IS SENTENCING. AND IT'S STABILIZING THE GENOME TO ALLOW FOR SURVIVAL. I THINK THIS IS WHAT IS GOING ON AND I THINK NOW THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL MECHANISM FOR THIS TO OCCUR, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE PEOPLE STUDYING THIS THAN STUDIED IT IN THE PAST. >> RANDY, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. COULD YOU SPECULATE ON WHY YOU THINK YOU SEE THE GENDER DIFFERENCES IN RESPONSE TO LOW-DOSE RADIATION? >> THAT I DON'T KNOW. BUT AS I SAID, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THAT ALSO AT HIGH DOSES. I DON'T KNOW. >> I HAVE TWO VERY INTRIGUING OBSERVATIONS FROM YOUR TALK THAT MAKE YOU CAN SHED LIGHT ON. IN LOW-DOSE RADIATION, YOU'RE INDUCING SINGLE STRAND BREAK AND THE -- -- HIGH DOSES OF RADIATION WITH CANCER INDUCED MORE, DOUBLE STRAND BREAK. THERE IS GOING TO BE EPIGENETIC CHANGES IN THE EPIGENOME AND THEY HAVE TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE SAME LEVEL THEY HAD BEFORE OTHERWISE YOU TRULY VE NOT REPAIRED THAT AREA. SO THESE FIELDS ARE TIED TOGETHER EVEN THOUGH INITIALLY I HAVE TO ADMIT I DIDN'T THINK OF THEM AS BEING TIED TOGETHER. AND I WOULD IMAGINE MORE PEOPLE LOOKING AT SINGEL AND DOUBLE STRAND BREAKS THEY WILL START LOOKING AT THE HISTONE MARKS IN HOW THEY ARE REPAIRED AND THE METHYLATION MARKS. THIS IS STUFF THAT WILL BE DONE IN THE FUTURE. I WILL NOT DO THIS. BUT SOMEBODY WILL. BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. >> I WAS WONDERING IN THE AGOUTI MICE WHO WERE TREATED WITH LOW DOSES OF RADIATION WHO SAW -- >> I CAN'T HEAR YOU SO WELL. >> THE AGOUTI MICE YOU TREATED WITH LOW DOSES OF RADIATION, WHERE YOU SAW THE REVERSAL ON THE YELLOW COAT COLOR, DID YOU ALSO SEE A DECREASE IN THE MORE SEVERE HEALTH EFFECTS OF THE DIABETES AND OBESITY AND CANCER THAT OCCURRED LATER ON IN LIFE? >> YOU WOULD SEE THAT BECAUSE AUTOMATICALLY THE REASON THAT YOU HAVE THESE PROBLEMS IS BECAUSE THE AGOUTI GENE IS INAPPROPRIATELY DISPOSED OF IN THE BRAIN. SO IT'S AN AUTOMATIC SITUATION THAT OCCURS IN THIS ANIMAL SYSTEM. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN. THERE IS A RECESSION VERY CLOSE BY. I WILL GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO DIRECTLY ASK QUESTIONS AND NETWORK WITH ONE ANOTHER.