>> ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING

THINGS ABOUT THIS TWO DAYS HAS

BEEN TO SEE SOME OF THE GROUPS

START TO DEVELOP AND SOME OF THE

FRIENDSHIPS OCCUR.

SO I HOPE YOU'RE ABLE TO

CONTINUE THOSE AND I'M REALLY

SORRY TO HAVE INTERRUPTED SOME

OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE

OCCURRING OUT IN THE COURTROOM.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE

WANTED TO INCLUDE IN THIS

SESSION IS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT

WHAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE THE LAB.

AND SO THE PANELISTS FOR THIS

NEXT 45 MINUTES ARE GOING TO

TALK ABOUT THEIR LIVES OUTSIDE

THE LAB.

KAREN CARLTON, ASSOCIATE

PROFESSOR IN THE DEFENDANT OF

BIOLOGY AT UNIVERSITY OF

MARYLAND HERE IN COLLEGE PARK.

SHE'S ESTABLISHED HER CAREER IN

THE AREA OF VISUAL

COMMUNICATION.

AND THIS MORNING WE STARTED OFF

THE DAY WITH JEREMY BOSS AND YOU

KNOW THAT HE'S THE CHAIR OF THE

MICROBIOLOGY AN IMMUNOLOGY

DEPARTMENT AT EMORY UNIVERSITY.

SO DR. CARLTON WILL GIVE

INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS AND THEN

WE'LL OPEN FOR DISCUSSIONS AB

HOW PEOPLE HANDLE THE CHALLENGES

IN THEIR PERSONAL LIVES.

KAREN, ALL YOURS.

>> I WANT TO START BY

(INAUDIBLE)

>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BALANCE

AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE TAKE OUR

LIVES AND ALL THE PARTS TO OUR

LIVES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER.

SO I HAVE MY ONE SIMPLE

DEMONSTRATION.

LIFE IS ABOUT TAKING THE

DIFFERENT PARTS AND BALANCING

THEM AND YOU MIGHT BE A PERSON

WHO TAKES PARTS OF YOUR LIFE AND

BLAPS BALANCES EQUALLY.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR WORK LIFE AND

YOUR HOME LIFE, AND YOU HAVE IT

BALANCED OR NOT.

THE KEY POINT TO THIS IS THAT

DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENCE

BALANCE POINTS.

SO SOME PUT MORE WEIGHT ON ONE

SIDE OF LIFE THAN THE OTHER AND

THEY HAVE TO MOVE THE BALANCE

POINT OVER SO THAT THEY CAN

WEIGHT THE PARTS OF THEIR LIVES

APPROPRIATELY AND MAKE IT COME

OUT WITH THE IMPORTANCE THEY

HAVE.

SO NOT EVERYBODY IS THE SAME AND

WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHICH BALANCE

POINTS FOR EACH OF USCH WE HAVE

TO BALANCE OVER DIFFERENCE TIME

FRAMES SO BALANCE ON A DAILY

BASIS.

YOU NEED TO EXERCISE.

A WEEKLY BASIS, MAYBE YOU NEED

TO GET SOME SPIRITUAL INSIGHT.

WE HAVE TO BALANCE THINGS ON A

YEARLY TIME FRAME.

TAKE A VACATION, GET AWAY.

WE HAVE TO BALANCE ON A LIFETIME

SCALE AS WELL.

IN ACADEMIA WE TAKE SABBATICALS

SO WE CAN GO AWAY, LEARN

SOMETHING NEW, GET NEW INSIGHTS

AND TAKE TIME OUT OF LIFE TO DO

DIFFERENT THINGS, WE MIGHT TAKE

CERTAIN PARTS OF LIVES AN

DEDICATE TO FAMILY.

FAMILY CAN BE PARTNERS, AIMING

PARENT, IT CAN BE CHILDREN.

SO THERE'S THINGS TO WEAVE

TOGETHER THE MAKE LIFE BALANCE.

SO I WAS GOING TO OFFER THREE

DIFFERENT PIECES OF ADVICE AND

TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY

STORY AND HOW I HAVE TRIED TO

BALANCE THINGS.

MY THREE PIECES ARE FIRST, MAKE

A PLAN, SECOND, BE WILLING TO

MODIFY THE PLAN, THIRD, BE

WILLING TO THROW THE PLAN OUT

THE WINDOW WHEN IT DOESN'T WORK.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU

ADMIT TO BEING PLANNERS IN THIS

ROOM.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT MOST OF YOU

TO GET WHERE YOU ARE TODAY HAD

TO PLAN.

YOU HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU

WERE GOING TO DO YOUR Ph.D.

ON, YOU HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT

EXPERIENCES -- EXPERIMENTS OR

RESEARCH, HOW TO GET YOUR NEXT

POSITION, YOU DID A LOT OF

PLANNING TO GET WHERE YOU ARE

TODAY.

I STARTED OFF WITH A PLAN.

SO I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN

SCIENCE IN HIGH SCHOOL, I WAS A

CHEMIST, I WANTED TO BE A

CHEMIST.

MY DAD SAID TO E ME, KAREN YOU

NEED TO GET A JOB SO YOU BETTER

BECOME AN ENGINEER.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS PROBABLY

REASONABLE ADVICE SOY WENT TO

COLLEGE AND BECAME A CHEMICAL

ENGINEER.

IT CAME TIME TO GO GET A JOB AND

I STARTED INTERVIEWING WITH EXON

AND BIG OIL COMPANIES.

SUDDENLY I REALIZED WHAT IT

MEANT TO BE A CHEMICAL ENGINEER.

IT WAS MY FIRST MOMENT WHICH I

HAD TO MODIFY MY PLAN.

SO I DECIDED TO WORK FOR A PLACE

CALLED THE SOLAR RESEARCH

INSTITUTE STARTED BY JIMMY

CARTER BACK IN THE 1970s, I

WAS GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD.

THAT WAS MY PLAN.

UNFORTUNATELY RONALD REAGAN GOT

ELECTED.

HE DECIMATED PRETTY MUCH THE

SOLAR ENERGY.

SO I DECIDED TO MODIFY MY PLAN

AGAIN.

AND I WENT TO GRADUATE SCHOOL,

AND I WAS AT THAT TIME GOT

MARRIED, MY HUSBAND WAS ALSO IN

GRADUATE SCHOOL AND WE STARTED

SORT OF LEAP FROGGING OUR WAY

ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I -- HE WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL

FIRST THEN I STARTED IN GRAD

SCHOOL, HE FINISHED FIRST, HE

WENT AND DID A POST-DOC, I WHEN

AND DID A POST-DOC AND THEN GET

A JOB AND THEN HE WENT AND GOT A

JOB.

SO WE MADE IT ALL WORK.

BY CONLEY MODIFYING THIS PLAN.

I DECIDED THAT I WANTED TO HAVE

A FAMILY, AND I THOUGHT THE BEST

WAY FOR ME TO BALANCE HAVING A

FAMILY AND HAVING A JOB WAS TO

WORK IN A SMALL CONTRACT

RESEARCH COMPANY WHERE YOU COULD

DO FUNDAMENTAL RESEARCH, SO I

DID THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU'RE

ALL THINKING OF DOING.

I WROTE RESEARCH PROPOSALS,

FUNDING FROM NASA, STUDY

ATMOSPHERIC AEROSOL, WHEN THE

POLAR OZONE HOLE WAS BEING

DISCOVERED.

I WORKED AT THE SMALL COMPANY

AND STARTED TRYING TO HAVE A

FAMILY.

THAT WAS MY PLAN, IT IT DIDN'T

WORK OUT.

EVENTUALLY LIFE THROUGH ME A

COUPLE MORE CURVE BALLS AND I

LOST MY PARENTS SUDDENLY, I HAD

VERY DIFFICULT PREGNANCY, I

FINALLY HAD MY BEAUTIFUL

DAUGHTER AND THN I HAD A SECOND

DAUGHTER AND SUDDENLY THIS PLAN

OF HAVING MY HUSBAND HAD AN

ACADEMIC POSITION AN WORKING IN

THIS SMALL COMPANY AND WE WERE

LIVING HALFWAY IN BETWEEN AND

COMMUTING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, IT

WASN'T WORKING SO THE BALANCE

WAS OFF.

I COULDN'T SEEM TO MAKE IT ALL

WORK.

SO THAT WAS THE MOMENT WHEN I

THROUGH THE PLAN OUT THE WINDOW.

AND I DECIDED TO LIT ALLEY TAKE

EVERYTHING I KNEW ABOUT

CHEMISTRY, PUT IT BEHIND ME AND

MY HUSBAND AND I DECIDED TO

START COLLABORATING.

I DID A LOT OF WORK WITH OPTICS

AND HAD ALWAYS USED THAT IN

PHYSICAL CHEMISTRY.

SO I DECIDED TO USE THAT TO

STUDY VISION.

VISION, OPTICS MAKES SENSE.

I TOOK MYSELF OUT OF CHEMISTRY

AND PUT MYSELF INTO BIOLOGY.

I LIKEN IT A LITTLE BIT TO

CLIMBING A 30-FOOT HIGH DIVING

BOARD THEN TAKING A STEP OFF AND

SEEING IF I LANDED IN THE POOL.

FORTUNATELY I DID.

I TOOK COURSES, GOT NSF FUND, AT

THAT TIME THE NSF HAD A PROGRAM

FOR WOMEN CALLED POWER, THE TAKE

WOMEN IN INDUSTRY AND BRING THEM

BACK INTO ACADEMIA.

THIS WAS PERFECT.

WRITE A PROPOSAL.

I WAS SWITCHING FIELDS, BACK

INTO ACADEMIA, I GOT SOME

FUNDING, I WAS INTERESTED IN

TEACHING SO I DEVELOPED WAYS TO

TEACH PHYSICS FOR BIOLOGISTS A

WAY TO BRING EXPERTISE TO

ACQUIRE IN A TOTALLY NEW FIELD

AND MAKE MYSELF UNIQUE IN THAT

WAY.

MY FIRST GRADUATE STUDENT WHO

HAPPENED TO BE TYRONE.

SO WE HAD A GREAT TIME.

[LAUGHTER]

WE HAD A GREAT TIME DOING

RESEARCH WE STUDIED THE FISH

WITH A WONDERFUL VISUAL SYSTEM.

I PARLAYED THAT INTO GETTING AN

ASSISTANT PROFESSOR POSITION.

SO CHANGING CAREERS GAVE ME A

WHOLE BUNCH OF FLEXIBILITY.

SO I TOOK TIME OUT TO RETRAIN

MYSELF WHILE I TOOK THAT TIME

OUT, I WAS WORKING PART TIME, I

WAS ABLE TO STAY HOME MORE WITH

MY YOUNG CHILDREN WE WAS

IMPORTANT TO ME.

I HAD NO BOSS WHICH MEANT I

COULD GO TO O WORK WHEN I WANTED

TO AND WHEN THE KID WERE SICK I

STAYED HOME.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO CALL UP AND

WORRY ABOUT IT.

SO THAT GAVE ME FLEXIBILITY.

I NOW HAVE ASSISTANT PROFESSOR,

I BECAME ASSISTANT PROFESSOR

UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND AND GOT

TEN YOUR THE YEAR MY OLDEST

DAUGHTER GRADUATED FROM HIGH

SCHOOL.

SO IT'S NOT THE CONVENTIONAL

CAREER PATH.

BUT IT IS A VERY INTERESTING

PATH TO GET FROM POINT A TO

POINT B.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE

THAT MIGHT HAVE GONE ALONG A

MORE STRAIGHT PATH RATHER THAN

ME YANDING ARE PATH THAT I TOOK.

BUT IT WAS A RICH PATH FOR ME IT

WAS A WAY TO DO REALLY UNIQUE

THINGS AND I'M HAPPY TO BE WHERE

I AM NOW WITH TWO BACKGROUNDS

THAT I CAN BRING TOGETHER AN

WORK AT THIS INTERFACE WHERE

OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT AS FLUENT.

SO I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A

QUOTE FROM RALPH WALDO EMERSON,

DO NOT GO WITH THE PATH MAY LEAD

GO IP STEAD WHERE THERE SNOW

PATH AND LEAVE A TRAIL.

THERE IS ONE WAY TO TAKE OUR

CAREER FORWARD AND FIGURE OUT

WHAT THE RIGHT WAY IS BASED ON

ALL THE ADVICE WE GET FROM

PEOPLE.

SOMETIMES TOUGH THROW PLAN OUT

THE WINDOW AND FIND THE PATH

THAT FOLLOWS THE BALANCE POINTS

FOR YOU SO THAT WAS MY INTRO AND

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER

JEREMY.

[APPLAUSE]

>> SO I GUESS A LITTLE BIT OF MY

STORY.

WHEN TYRONE CALLED ME UP THAT'S

MY STORY I STARTED OUT I DIDN'T

HAVE A PLAN, GRADUATE SCHOOL,

THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE

PLAN, THEN TWO WORDS WERE SPOKEN

TO ME ONE AFTERNOON.

THEN THAT PLAN WHEN OUT THE

WINDOW AS WELL.

AND THERE ARE TWO WORDS THAT PUT

FEAR INTO EVERY MAN ON THE

PLANET.

YOU HEAR THEM AN SOMEBODY SAYS

I'M PREGNANT.

THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST FAMOUS

WORDS.

THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT

CHANGES YOUR LIFE LIKE THAT.

HOW MANY HEARD THOSE WORDS?

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

FOR ME IT WAS MY -- THE WEEK I

WAS DECIDING WHAT LAB I WAS

GOING TO REAT A TIME INTO, SO IT

WAS EARLY IN MY GRADUATE CAREER

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

MY WIFE WAS GOING INTO SCIENCE,

SHE HAD TO FINISH UNDERGRADUATE

AND WE HAD TO MAKE IT WORK.

WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER

SEVEN MONTHS AFTER THOSE MORTAL

WORDS.

AND WE HAD TO RAISE A CHILD

WHILE BOTH ATENNING SCHOOL AND

FIGURE HOW TO PURSUE A PATH.

I THINK WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE

IN THAT WE HAD DIMP BUY LONCAL

CLK HOURS.

I'M A NIGHT OWL, I DO REALLY

WELL LATE IN THE EVENING AND

SHE'S UP EARLY IN THE MORNING

AND WE WERE ABLE TO EXTEND OUR

DAY SO WE HAD A VERY LONG DAY

WHERE WE COULD SPEND TIME WITH

OUR -- SHE WOULD LEAVE FOR WORK

I WOULD TAKE CARE OF OUR

DAUGHTER IN THE MORNING, SHE --

I WOULD PICK HER UP IN THE

AFTERNOON ON SUNDAY, SHE WOULD

PICK HER UP ON OTHERS AN MAY OUR

DAY GO VERY LONG.

THAT WORKED OUT VERY WELL.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE A CHILD

GOING THROUGH GRADUATE SCHOOL,

POST DOC, AND BUT I SPEND A LOT

OF TIME WITH MY DAUGHTER THOUGH

I WAS PROBABLY WORKING AS HARD

AS ANY OF YOU GUYS WORK IN THE

LABORATORY PUTTING IN HOURS.

WHEN I WASN'T AT HOME I WAS IN

THE LABORATORY WORKING HARD.

RAISING A CHILD, IF YOU DON'T

HAVE ANY CHILDREN, RAYING A

CHILD WITHOUT A FINANCIAL SOURCE

BEHIND YOU IS AN INCREDIBLE

INCENTIVE TO KEEP YOUR NOSE TO

THE GRINDSTONE AND TO PURSUE

YOUR WORK VERY HARD.

SO IT WENT LIKE THAT FOR YEARS

AND YEARS AND WE MADE DEALS

ALONG THE WAY WHO WAS GOING TO

DO WHAT AND WHEN.]/>

MY DAUGHTER IS NOW 33 YEARS OLE

O, SHE'S A PHYSICIAN SO WE DID

OKAY IN RAISING HER.

WE DIDN'T MESS HER UP TOO BADLY

BUT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME SO

SHE ENDED UP BEING MY DATE FOR

BASEBALL GAMES SO I HAD SEASON

TICKETS FOR BRAVES AND WE WENT

TO 12 GAMES A YEAR TOGETHER.

WE DID LOTS OF MUSIC TOGETHER.

MY DAUGHTER PLAYS MANY, MANY

DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS, I PLAY

GUITAR AN KEYBOARD AN SING A

LITTLE BIT.

SHE LEARNED TO SING HARMONY FROM

AGE 5 OR 6, SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT

SO WE CAN SING TOGETHER.

WE FIT NICELY BECAUSE WE HAVE

BEEN DOING THIS BASICALLY, 25,

26 YEARS.

SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS

THAT WE DID.

THERE WERE THINGS WE DID

TOGETHER.

WE HAD SPECIAL TIME WITH ONE OF

US VERSUS THE OTHER.

I GUESS I WAS UP HERE BECAUSE MY

WEBSITE HAS MY HOBBIES SO IN

ADDITION TO BEING A DEPARTMENT

CHAIR, A RESEARCH SCIENTIST, THE

EDITOR FOR THE JOURNAL OF

IMMUNOLOGY, A DIRECTOR OF A T-32

TRAINING GRANT, MY LAB HAS 11

PEOPLE IN IT FUNDING SOURCES.

I PLAY COMPETITIVE TENNIS, IN

THREAN, AND FOR A WHILE I WAS

THE CAPTAIN OF A COMPETITIVE

TENNIS TEAM, ATLANTA HAS THE

LARGE EST TENNIS IMMUNITY IN THE

COUNTRY.

I DO WOD WORKING.

I MEAS MOST OF THE FURNITURE FOR

OUR HOUSE.

I AM AN AVID PHOTOGRAPHER AND SO

WHEN I TRAVEL, I GO PLACES WHERE

I CAN TAKE LOTS OF PHOTOGRAPHS.

AND I PLAY SCREAMING ELECTRIC

GUITAR.

SO WHERE DO I HAVE TIME FOR

THESE THINGS?

SO I HAVE NEVER SEEN A SIGNFELD

EPISODE.

I SAW PART OF ONE FROM NEW YORK,

I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS FUNNY, HE

WAS KIND OF INSULTING SOY LET IT

GO.

I HAVEN'T SEEN A SITCOM SINCE

DALLAS, I SAID THAT THE OTHER

DAY.

I WATCH SPORTS ON TV BUT USUALLY

IT'S WITH A MANUSCRIPT IN MY

HANDS OR A GRANT OR A LAPTOP ON

MY COMPUTER WHEN I'M WORKING.

I REALLY LIKE WORKING.

I REALLY LIKE SCIENCE.

I GUESS SCOTT MORGAN THE OTHER

ASKING TO FINE PHRASES AND

THINGS THAT SCIENCE INSPIRES ME.

I ENJOY LEARNING ABOUT IT.

FOR ME PICKING UP A JOURNAL OR

ARTICLE OR EDITINGING A PAPER IS

FUN.

IT ALL HAS BEEN SO I DOPE SEE IT

AS WORK.

THE OTHER NIGHT I DID WATCH ON

TELEVISION I WATCHED THE HBO

SPECIAL WITH CHRIS ROCK.

HE'S HYSTERICAL, I WON'T USE HIS

LANGUAGE BUT HE WAS ACTUALLY

TALKING ABOUT CAREER AND JOBS.

I THOUGHT WOW THIS IS PERFECT.

CHRIS ROCK COULD TELL YOU WHAT

IT'S ABOUT.

WHEN YOU HAVE A JOB YOU'RE

THINKING I COME IN AT NINE

O'CLOCK, I TAKE MY HOUR, THREE

MINUTE LUNCH BREAK, AT FIVE

O'CLOCK I'M OUT OF HERE.

THAT'S A JOB.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT CAREER, THERE

IS NO TIME IN THE DAY.

IT'S ALL DAY LONG, IT'S PART OF

YOU, MOST OF YOU PROBABLY GO TO

SLEEP THINKING ABOUT YOUR

EXPERIMENTS, AND YOU MAKE WAKE

UP THINKING ABOUT EXPERIMENTS.

YOU THINK ABOUT PARTS OF YOUR

CAN REAR, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO

MANAGE IT BUT IT'S NOT -- IT

BECOMES PART OF YOUR LIFE, PART

OF YOUR SOUL.

IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK AS WE TALK

ABOUT INDIVIDUAL CAREER

DEVELOPMENT PLANS BEING ABLE TO

GO ALONG WITH YOUR PLAN, HERE

I'M PREGNANT, NOW THE PLAN

CHANGES, THERE'S A NEW PERSON IN

THE PART OF IT OR WHATEVER OTHER

WORDS YOU HEAR ALONG THE WAY.

SO YOU'RE FLEXIBLE.

THERE'S STILL THE SCIENCE TO

KEEP YOU GOING.

>> THANK YOU FOLKS FOR YOUR

TRANSPARENCY AND SHARING THOSE

ASPECTS OF YOUR LIVES.

THIS IS A LITTLE DIMP SESSION

THAN OTHERS THAT YOU HAVE HAD.

THEY'RE READY FOR YOUR

QUESTIONS.

>> (INAUDIBLE) NCI.

DO YOU HAVE ADVICE FOR MAYBE

SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T RAISE THEIR

HAND WHEN YOU ASKED WHO IN HERE

ARE PLANNERS?

WHO HAS BEEN VERY FORTUNATE AND

ADVANCING THIS FAR IN THE CAREER

BY I LIKE TO THINK GOOD MENTOR

SHIP AND GOOD LUCK AND I THINK

TALENT BUT NOT A LOT OF SKILL

AND PLANNING.

I GUESS I WOULD SAY IT'S NEVER

TOO LATE TO MAKE A PLAN.

DEVELOPING

RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT EASIER.

YOU SET ASIDE SOME TIME TO THINK

AB YOUR GOALS ARE WHETHER THIS

WEEK OR THIS MONTH OR THE JOB

YOU WANT TO GET NEXT.

YOU MAKE SOME LIST WHAT ARE KEY

THINGS AND TALK ABOUT THOSE WITH

YOUR MENTORS AND GET FEEDBACK.

YOU TALK ABOUT THEM WITH YOUR

FAMILY AND GET FEEDBACK ON THEM.

YOU THINK AB THEM, SEE HOW

THEY'RE SITTING.

YOU CHANGE SOME OF THEM.

AS YOU THINK ABOUT MAYBE THAT

DOESN'T SOUND SO GOOD, YOU

MODIFY AND YOU GO FROM THERE.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS THE

RIGHT SESSION TO ASK THIS

QUESTION BUT IT'S ABOUT WORK AND

LIFE SO HOPEFULLY.

I RECENTLY WAS MARRY AND I

CHANGED MY NAME.

I TRIED TO GET SOCIAL SECURITY

TO PUT MY MAIDEN NAME AS MIDDLE

BECAUSE I HAD SEVERAL

PUBLICATIONS FROM GRAD SCHOOL.

MY MAIDEN NAME IS NO LONGER IN

MY ANYMORE ANY MORE.

IF I CONTINUE -- IF I CHANGE AND

START PUBLISHING WITH THE

MARRIED NAME IS THAT GOING TO

AFFECT ME WHEN I LOOK FOR JOBS

OR WHEN I START APLIEG FOR

GRANTS OR AM I LEGALLY ABLE TO

CONTINUE PUBLISHING WITH MY

MAIDEN NAME IF IT'S NOT IN MY

LEGAL NAME?

>> OR SHOULD I YELL AT SOCIAL

SECURITY TO FIX IT?

>> WHERE IS SALLY SALLY ROCKEY WHEN

YOU NEED HER.

>> I HAVE SEEN QUITE A FEW CVs

IF YOU CHOOSE TWO NAMES YOU PUT

A STAR AT THE BOTTOM AND PUT

NAE, FRENCH AND MAIDEN NAME SO

YOU CONNECT THE TWO AND BOLD THE

ONES THAT ARE YOU SO THEY CAN

SEE THAT -- AND THAT HAPPENS ALL

THE TIME.

THAT WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TIME.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LEGALITY.

>> I HAVE SEEN FRIEND THEE

SEIZE.

PEOPLE HAVE JANE SMITH DOE.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW SINCE MY SOCIAL

SECURITY MY -- I HAVE MY MARRIED

NAME, MAIDEN IS NO WE ARE

ASSOCIATED WITH MY NEW NOR.

-- ANY MORE.

IF I'M PUBLISHING NOW IN MY

MARRIED NAME, IF IT'S NOT GOING

TO AFFECT NO BIG DEAL.

I DIDN'T KNOW MY PI ASKED ME TO

ASK YOU GUYS THE SESSION HERE.

SHE HAS NO IDEA.

SHE KEPT HER MARRIED NAME AS THE

LEGAL NAME BECAUSE IT WAS A

PROBLEM SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH

THINGS GETTING LOST IN

DATABASES.

>> I THINK IT'S BEST TO SETTLE

ONE AND USE IT FROM NOW FORWARD.

YOU MAY GET MARRIED AGAIN AND

DECIDE TO TAKE A DIFFERENT NAME.

>> HOPEFULLY NOT.

>> I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A PLAN

MODIFIER, RIGHT?

[LAUGHTER]

>> WHAT WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE --

WHAT YOU DONE WANT TO HAPPEN IS

PEOPLE IN THE FIELD NOT TO KNOW

WHO YOU ARE.

YOUR CV IS NOT THE CONCERN

BECAUSE YOUR DOCUMENT HAS THE

INFORMATION SOMEBODY WOULD FIND

OUT THAT -- AN PEOPLE BOLD THEIR

NAMES IN THEIR CV AND

PUBLICATIONS ANYWAY, RIGHT?

THEY ALL DO THAT.

>> WHEN YOU SEARCH IN PUBMED IF

I PUT MY MARRIED NAME IN ON MY

PUBLICATIONS YOU WON'T BE PULLED

UP MAIDEN NAME PUBLICATION SO

SINCE I STAYED IN THE RELATIVE

SAME FIELD -- IT'S JUST I HAVE

TO CONTINUE ASKING PEOPLE --

>> IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO FIX

THAN PUBMED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WOULDN'T WORRY TOO MUCH

ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY EXCEPT IF

YOUR WAGES ARE CREDITED TO THAT

AT SO YOU CAN COLLECT FROM THEM.

WHATEVER POINT IN THE FUTURE YOU

NEED TO DO THAT.

>> I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT

BECAUSE WHILE I AGREE WITH

EVERYTHING YOU SAID THE REALITY

IS JOURNALS PUBLISH WHATEVER YOU

GIVE THEM.

THE PUBLICATION NAME IS NOT MY

LEGAL NAME AT ALL.

AND I HAVE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT

IN USING THAT PUBLICATION NAME.

AND NO JOURNALS HAVE GIVEN ME

TROUBLE WHATSOEVER.

>> MY K-99 APPLICATION PUT THAT

IN -- UNDER THE ADVICE OF MY

PROGRAM OFFICER, JUST PUT THAT

IN K-99 APPLICATION AN EVERYBODY

SEEMS COOL WITH THAT.

>> YOU'RE NOT USING MARK TWAIN

ARE YOU IN

>> I'M USING MY FIRST NAME AS MY

LAST NAME.

>> AMBER (INDISCERNIBLE) CASE

WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY.

I HAVE A TWO-YEAR-OLD AND HE

GOES TO DAY CARE, HOW DO YOU

DEAL WITH THE GUILT?

>> YOU BETTER ADDRESS THAT.

I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY GUILT.

>> THAT'S A BALANCE POINT.

WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS TWO, AND

SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO DAY

CARE AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE

CONFIDENCE THAT THE DAY CARE WAS

HELPING HER DEAL WITH THAT, I

WENT DOWN TO TWO -- WORKING TWO

DAYS A WEEK BECAUSE I NEEDED TO

FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE FOR ME TO

BE HAPPY WITH HOW SHE WAS BEING

CARED FOR.

YOU CAN FIND A DIFFERENT DAY

CARE YOU FEEL WONDERFUL DROPPING

HER OFF, THERE'S WONDERFUL LAB

SCHOOLS UNIVERSITY HAVE AN THOSE

PEOPLE ARE PHENOMENAL.

YOU CAN FEEL GREAT ABOUT TAKING

YOUR CHILD THERE, THEY'RE

GETTING SO MUCH BROADENED

SIMULATION.

SO YOU HAVE TO FIND A PLACE YOU

FEEL GOOD ABOUT TAKING YOUR

CHILD.

>> CAN I JUST REINFORCE WHAT YOU

SAID IN YOUR COMMENTS?

THEY'RE DIFFERENT STAGES OF OUR

LIVES.

SO THAT THAT'S SO IMPORTANT MA

YOU DEAL WITH BOTH OF YOUR NEEDS

AT THIS STAGE IN YOUR LIFE AND

IT'S NOT SO LONG BEFORE THAT

YOUNG CHILD IS OLDER AND THERE

WILL BE DIFFERENCE SET OF

CHALLENGES TO DEAL WITH SO I

DON'T THINK THAT GIVES A

SOLUTION EXCEPT FOR THE PROBLEMS

CHANGE OVER TIME

>> AND YOU ACTUALLY HATED DOING

IT.

IF SO, WHAT DID YOU DO TO GET

OUT OF THAT?

>> THOSE ARE THE DAYS WHEN

GRANTS GET FUNDED.

TRUE, WHEN YOU GET HORRIBLE NEWS

LIKE THAT, EVERYBODY GETS IT BY

THE WAY.

SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT ALL -- IF

YOU GO TO A MEETING AND SEE THE

KEYNOTE SPEAKER AND BIG SHOTS

AND YOU THINK THEY GET

EVERYTHING FUNDED EVERY PAPER,

TRUTH, THEY DON'T.

THEY GO THROUGH -- EVERYBODY

GOES THROUGH THE PROBLEMS SO FOR

THOSE DAYS WHEN -- THEY WERE

PARTICULARLY THE WORST I THINK

BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SHAKE OFF

YOUR BRILLIANT IDEAS FOR A FEW

MINUTES AND YOU'RE DEPRESSED,

ANGRY, YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME

TRYING TO GET THE GRANT FUNDED

OR PAPER ACCEPTED.

IT'S VERY SIMILAR ACTUALLY.

THE FEELING ANYWAY.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE A FEW

DAYS.

AND YOU HAVE TO PUT IT DOWN, NOT

KEEP READING IT OVER AND OVER

AND OVER AGAIN THAT DAY.

YOU HAVE TO PUT IT DOWN A FEW

DAYS, YOU HAVE TO GET SOME SLEEP

THROUGH IT, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO

SORT OF LOOK AT IT AND THEN GO

BACK TO YOUR NEW PLAN.

WHICH IS TRYING TO GET THAT

PAPER ACCEPTED IN A DIFFERENT

JOURNAL OR REWRITING THE GRANT,

ATTACKING THE CRITIQUES,

MODIFYING IT AND CHANGING THE

PLAN.

SO FOR ME IT WAS ALWAYSś

IN THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.

THOSE WERE THE DIMMEST DAYS.

AT THE BEGINNING OF MY CAREER IT

TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET MY

FIRST GRANT.

MY DEPARTMENT CHAIR WAS GIVING

ME A HARD TIME ABOUT IT AND

WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD

COLLABORATE WITH SOMEBODY GET ON

THEIR GRANT TO GET 30% OF THE

SALARY, MY SALARY WAS $34,000

WHEN I STARTED SO I ONLY HAD TO

COME UP WITH 11,300 SOMETHING.

AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY

TO DO THAT.

IT SEEMED LIKE I THOUGHT I HAD A

COUPLE OF YEARS OF SUPPORT BUT

WHATEVER THE REASON WAS HE PUT

SCREWS TO ME, AND THAT WAS

ANOTHER TIME, IT WAS A MATTER OF

TIME TO GET THROUGH IT.

SO THE LESSON I LEARNED FROM

THAT, WHEN THINGS GET DOWN, TIME

IS THE HEELER.

AND SO A WEEK LATER I MAY NOT

HAVE BEEN 100% BUT I WAS BETTER.

AND I WAS ABLE TO FUNCTION AND

GET BACK TO BEING A CAREER

AGAIN.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HANDLED IT

WELL ENOUGH FOR YOU.

TIME IS THERE, EVERYBODY GETS

IT.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM

VANDERBILT.

SORT OF A SHAMELESS PLUG FOR

VAND BILL BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE

SUBSIDIZED DAY CARE FOR SOME.

FOR THOSE CHAIRS OF THE

DEPARTMENTS OR HAVE INPUT TO

YOUR UNIVERSITIES, I CERTAINLY

ENCOURAGE YOU HELP YOUR

POST-DOCS OUT.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE MAKE -- IT

MAKES A WRL OF DIFFERENCE HAVING

YOUR KID CLOSE TO LABS SO THAT

WHENEVER THERE IS DUSTING AND

THE TOWN SHUTS DOWN LIKE

NASHVILLE DOES AND I I'M SURE

ATLANTA DOES TO YOU CAN PICK

THEM UP EASILY, IT MAKES LIFE A

LOT BETTER.

MY OTHER QUESTION, WHEN YOU WERE

TALKING ABOUT YOUR CIRCUITOUS

ROUTE THROUGH LIFE, I WAS

CURIOUS WHETHER YOUR HUSBAND'S

LIFE WAS MORE STABLE AND WHETHER

HIS WAS ALSO I DON'T WANT TO SAY

ALL OVER THE PLACE BUT HOW THAT

WORKED OUT.

THANKS.

>> MY HUSBAND WHEN HE WAS SIX

NEW HE WANTED TO STUDY FISH WHEN

HE GROW UP AND HE IS STILL

STUDYING FISH.

WE HAVE THE BIGGEST FISH ROOM I

HAVE EVER SEEN THAT WE CAN USE

FOR OUR RESEARCH.

SO I THINK HIS PATH I WOULD HAVE

TO CHARACTERIZE STRAIGHT AS AN

ARROW.

AND THAT'S -- THAT DOES HELP.

NOT TO SAY THAT HE WAS HAPPY

EVERY SINGLE DAY, THERE WERE

DAYS EPID TO QUIT AND BECOME AN

AIRPLANE MECHANIC.

HE REBILL A TRUCK THE USE FOR

RESEARCH VEHICLE SO HEED A LOT

OF OUTLETS FOR DOING OTHER

THINGS AND AT THIS VERY MOMENT

HE'S BUILDING AN AIRPLANE IN OUR

BASEMENT.

SO EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OUTLETS.

>> QUESTION FOR YOU DR. COL TON.

AS THE MOTHER, IT SOUNDS LIKE

YOU GAVE UP PART OF YOUR CAREER

WHEN WE HEAR THIS STORY, NOT IN

A BAD WAY BUT DID YOUR HUSBAND

HAVE TO GO PART TIME ANY TIME TO

HELP YOU BALANCE WHAT SOUNDS

LIKE EXTREME GUILT?

>> HE DID NOT.

HE -- HE WAS ALREADY A TENURED

FACULTY MEMBER AT THAT TIME.

BUT HE HAD A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.

WE DID -- WE WERE AGAIN DOING

THIS DRIVING THING BOTH OF UTS

SPENDING SO MUCH TIME DRIVING SO

I THINK BY MOVING TO ONE

LOCATION THAT SIMPLIFIED BOTH

OUR LIVES.

I WILL ADMIT, I PROBABLY GAVE UP

MORE BUT I WAS RAISED IN THE

'60s SO THAT WAS LIKE -- THAT

WAS ONLY WAY I COULD DEAL WITH

DOING IT.

>> JEFF HALPER, CASE WESTERN

RESERVE UNIVERSITY.

HAID TWO RELATED QUESTIONS.

ONE IS AS A MALE ENTERING

HOPEFULLY SOON ACADEMIC

POSITION, RELATIVELY SOON, THE

-- THERE'S A PUSH TO GET TENURE

QUICKLY OR PUT TOGETHER TENURE

PACKAGE, YET IF I HAVE ANOTHER

CHILD DURING THAT PERIOD, YOU

WANT TO SPEND TIME HOME WITH

THAT CHILD.

SO THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS

RELATED.

ONE IS OFTEN PATERNITY LEAVE

BOTH MATERNITY AND PATERNITY

LOCK DOWN UPON WHEN YOUR PARENT

TENURE OR THAT'S THE TRADITION.

I WAS WONDERING DO YOU HAVE ANY

SUGGESTION FOR SOMEBODY WHO

MIGHT WANT TO TAKE MATERNITY OR

PATERNITY LEAVE AND HOW TO

MANAGE THAT?

SECOND, HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT

WORK/LIFE BALANCE WITH YOUNG

CHILDREN IN THE TENURE TRACK

YEARS WHEN IT'S VITAL TO BE

FOCUSING ON YOUR WORK?

>> FIRST I WOULD SAY WE HAVE

THIS BIG DISCUSSION ON OUR

CAMPUS TAKING TIME OFF AND

TENURE CLOCKS I HOPE THAT IT'S

THE SAME AT CASE WESTERN BUT

WHEN YOU COME UP FOR TENURE YOU

SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THE SAME

AMOUNT AS ANYBODY ELSE, WHETHER

EARLY, WHETHER YOU COME UP ON

TIME, WHETHER DELAYED.

THERE SHOULD BE ONE STANDARD FOR

TENURE AN EVERYBODY SHOULD BE

JUDGED THE SAME.

SO YOU SHOULDN'T BE PENALIZED BY

TAKING EXTRA TIME BEFORE YOU

COME UP FOR TENURE, YOU

SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO HAVE

MORE ACCOMPLISHED, ONE STANDARD

WHETHER YOU HAVE MET

REQUIREMENTS FOR TENURE OR NOT.

THE OTHER THING I'LL TELL YOU,

YOUR CHILDREN ARE ONLY YOUNG

ONCE, THEY DON'T GET SMALL

AGAIN, THERE'S NO REVERSING IT.

SO IF IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU SPEN

WHATEVER TIME YOU NEED TO WITH

THEM.

YOU WILL NEVER REGRET HAVING

SPENT THAT TIME.

I'M -- SEEING THE FIRST SMILE,

SEEING THE FIRST STEP T FIRST

THROW OF A BALL.

IT'S PRICELESS.

YOU JUST CAN'T REPLACE THAT.

>> IF THE UNTHINKABLE HAPPENS

AND YOU DON'T GET TENURE, THEN

WHAT'S THE PLAN?

>> IT'S OBVIOUSLY A NEW PLAN.

WHEN I WROTE THE BOOK

DR. CLIFFORD MENTIONED IT WAS

BASICALLY BECAUSE FACULTY NOT

GETTING TENURE, I THOUGHT THERE

WERE THINGS TO DO ALONG THE WAY

TO GET TENURE.

THEN I THOUGHT HOW DO YOU WHAT

DO THEY DO WHEN THEY DIDN'T GET

TENURE?

THEY REGROUPED THEIR LIVES AND

BASICALLY STARTED OUT FRESH, GOT

JOBS AND REENERGIZED.

SO IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE

BAD DAYS WHERE THEY NO LONGER

THOUGHT SCIENCE WAS A CAREER BUT

A JOB.

A WEEK LATER THEY WERE

SUBMITTING PAPERS THEY WERE

SUBMIT AD YEAR BEFORE, AND

THINGS WENT OUT.

THEIR CV GOT BETTER AND THEY

WENT OFF TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I HAVE BEEN AT EMORY 26 YEARS,

OF ALL THE PEOPLE, EVERYBODY WHO

HASN'T MADE THE TENURE SYSTEM --

HASN'T MADE TENURE HAS MOVED ON

TO OTHER THINGS, IT ALSO DOESN'T

HAPPEN TOMORROW.

SO TYPICALLY THE PROCESS TAKES A

YEAR WE FIND OUT SOME TIME IN

THE SPRING YOU DON'T HAVE --

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET TENURE,

YOU HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OR SO TO

FIND A JOB.

THAT'S A LONG TIME TO GET YOUR

LIFE TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT

WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

THE PEOPLE THAT MOVED TO

DIFFERENT FACULTY POSITIONS AT

THE UNIVERSITY, THEY DID FINE.

SO THEY'RE ABLE TO REGROUP AND

CORRECT WHATEVER ERRORS THEY

MADE ALONG THE WAY.

SO I THINK THERE ARE STILL

PLANS, OTHERS WENT TO

PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, ONE TO

PA TEN LAW, SO IT WAS TIME FOR

CHANGE AS WELL.

SO PERHAPS WHEN THESE DECISIONS

ARE MADE THEY'RE NOT THE WORST.

THE WORST THING MIGHT BE END UP

MAKING THE SCIENCE CAREER BECOME

A JOB.

THEN YOU HAD THAT WONDERFUL

CAREER, YOU WERE NOT THINKINGN'T

THE TIME AND THEN YOU COMMENT

WHEN DO SRI TO TEACH, LOOK AT

YOUR WATCH, I GOT TO TEACH IN

TEN MINUTES, DONE AT ONE CLOCK

AND I'M HOME.

IT'S NOT A CAREER.

MAYBE IT'S A JOB.

I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE IN THE

ROOM TO FIND OUT HOW TO MAKE IT

A CAREER.

>> I HEAR TENURE BEING USED HERE

AS IF IT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF

ALL OF LIFE.

AS IF IT'S HEAVEN OR NIRVANA.

WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO TELL ME

WHAT YOU DID THE DAY AFTER YOU

FUND OUT YOU GOT TEN YOURED?

>> I SHOWED UP

>> IT IS A LITTLE ANTI-CLIMACTIC

I THINK.

>> COMPLETELY ANTI-CLIMACTIC.

>> MAYBE THAT'S YOUR POINT.

BUT YOU SORT OF HAVE THIS WHOLE

YEAR OF KNOWING THAT YOU'RE

PROBABLY GOING TO GET TENURE, SO

IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR LIFE CHANGES

OVER NIGHT LIKE YOU WEREN'T

GOING TO THEN YOU ARE.

SO I THINK YOU TYPICALLY YOU

HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.

YOU HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT IN

THE FALL AND THEN YOU HEAR FROM

THE COLLEGE, SO YOU ARE APPRISED

OF THE PROCESS AS IT GOES ALONG.

SHOULDN'T BE A HUGE SURPRISE.

>>

>> MY POINT HAVING TENURE AS A

GOAL WOULD MEAN YOUR LIFE IS

OVER WHEN YOU'RE 35 OR 38 OR

WHATEVER THAT AGE HAPPENS TO BE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME

OTHER GOALS IN OUR LIVES BEYOND

JUST ACHIEVING THIS STATUS.

>> PROBABLY WILL BE DIFFERENCE

IN YOUR LIFETIMES IN ACADEMIA IF

YOU GO THAT ROOT.  THERE'S NOT A

LOT TO DO IF YOU'RE NOT RUN --

IN THE MEDICAL SCHOOL AT EMORY

IF YOU'RE NOT UNRUNNING A

RESEARCH PROGRAM IN BASIC

SCIENCE DEPARTMENT THERE'S

LIMITED TEACHING THAT CAN BE

DONE.

SO I THINK -- THERE IS TALK

AMONG THE HIGHER UPS IN OUR

ADMINISTRATION ABOUT CHANGING

SOME OF THE PARAMETERS.

SOME SCHOOLS HAVE A BASALRY THAT

YOU GET IN YOUR LETTER.

THAT BECOMES YOUR BASE FOR YOUR

LIFE.

SO BASE IS $65,000 AND YOU RUN

OUT OF -- EVEN IF YOU'RE TENURED

AND YOU RUN OUT OF MONEY, FOR

YOUR RESEARCH GRANT YOUR SALARY

CAN DROP DOWN OVER TIME

FOLLOWING A SET OF RULES.

SO TENURE, THIS JOB SECURITY

THING TENURE IS NOT REALLY JOB

SECURITY PER SE, IT COULD BE A

MISERABLE JOB OR YOU CAN END UP

HAVING TO DO SOME DUTIES THAT

YOU LOATHE.

YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING FOR

YOUR PAY.

AND SO YOU GET -- MIGHT GET

ASSIGNED SOMETHING THAT YOU

REALLY HATE.

WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

THAT WE TALKED EARLIER THIS

MORNING.

SO NOTHING CHANGED.

BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME THING

THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET A

GRANT BY THE WAY.

SO YOU GO I GOT A GRANT.

YOU JUMP UP AND DOWN, NEXT FIVE

YEAR GRANT ONE MORE QUESTION

BEFORE WE WRAP IT UP.

>> HI, THERE.

I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR

PERSPECTIVE FROM DIFFERENT

INSTITUTIONS ABOUT STOPPING THE

CLOCK, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARDS

TO PATERNITY LEAVE AND MY

HUSBAND WAS TOLL HE WAS NOT

PRIMARY CAREGIVER OF THE MOST

RECENT ADDITION TO MY FAMILY SO

HE WAS DENIED PAID LEAVE AND

JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S AN

ASTERISK BEHIND LEAVE AT OTHER

INSTITUTIONS AND HOW THAT

APPLIES TO STOPPING THE CLOCK

FOR CHILDREN.

>> I HAVE TO ADMIT SOME

IGNORANCE, AT EMORY, WE WENT

FROM A 7 YEAR CLOCK TO A 9 YEAR

CLOCK.

WHEN THAT HAPPENED HE DECIDE NAD

THAT GUIDELINE THERE WOULD BE NO

CHANGING THE CLOCK FOR

PATERNITY, MATERNITY OR FAMILY

ILLNESS.

SO THIS EXTRA TIME PERIOD WAS

MUTT IN TO TAKE CARE OF REQUESTS

SO WE HAD A COMPLETE IMBALANCE

IN REQUEST BUT THAT WASN'T THE

REASON THE CLOCK WAS CHANGED, IT

WAS BECAUSE OF TIME TO GET A

GRANT RENEWED.

YOU COULDN'T REALLY TELL, BY

GIVING EXTRA TIME PERIOD, THEY

FELT THAT THAT IS WHAT THE

EXPLANATION WAS.

SO AS FAR AS PAID PATERNITY

LEAVE I DONE KNOW IF IT'S PAID

OR NOT.

>> MARILYN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE

AUTOMATIC.

SO BOTH THE MOTHER AND FATHER

AUTOMATICALLY GET A YEAR ON

THEIR TENURE CLOCK WITHOUT

ASKING.

THEY WANTED TO MAKE SO IT WAS

NOT -- DIDN'T HAVE TO BE

REQUESTED, IT WAS AUTOMATIC.

SO NOW PEOPLE ARE ARGUING ABOUT

WHETHER IF THEY DON'T WANT TO
?–

TAKE IT NOW DOES THAT MEAN

THEY'RE COMING UP EARLY AND IS

THAT ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS

THEY'RE OPEN OING, THAT'S WHY I

WENT THROUGH THAT THING ABOUT

WHENEVER YOU DECIDE COME UP FOR

TENURE WHETHER AUTOMATIC OR NOT,

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE JUDGED THE

SAME.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PAY.

>>

>> THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR

YOUR OPEN ONESS.

[APPLAUSE]

SO THIS LAST SESSION IS INTENDED

TO SORT OF PULL THINGS TOGETHER

FOR YOU, OFTEN AT SESSIONS LIKE

THIS PEOPLE GET LOTS OF

INFORMATION.

YOU HAVE GOT LOTS OF NOTES.

THEN YOU GO AWAY AND GET INTO

YOUR LAB AND YOU GET INTO YOUR

HOME AND YOU BEGIN TO GET IN THE

SAME HABITS AS YOU HAVE BEEN IN

BEFORE, SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO

ACCOMPLISH IN THIS LAST SESSION

IS TO BUILD ON WHAT WE STARTED

OUT WITH WITH CREATING SOME SORT

OF A PLAN OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO

MOVE FORWARD.

SO MY COLLEAGUE JENNIFER HOBIN

IS GOING TO GET THAT STARTED.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO

FORWARD THROUGH -- ANOTHER WAY

TO DO IT.

THIS TALK TOOK MORE TIME

YESTERDAY MORNING.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

CAN Y'ALL MATTER ME?

GREAT.

SO LA TALK YOU'RE PROBABLY

HOPING FOR A BREAK BUT WE'RE

GOING TO MAKE YOU WORK EVEN A

LITTLE BIT HARDER THAN YOU HAVE

THEN THE LAST TWO DAYS.

WE'LL HAVE YOU WRITING THINGS

DOWN AGAIN, EVERYBODY SOMEHOW

PICKED UP THE GOAL SETTING SHEET

OUTSIDE, ENVELOPE, IF YOU DON'T

HAVE IT YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND

AND MAYBE PHIL CAN BRING MORE

AROUND.

I SEE A FEW FOLKS SO THE LAST

TWO DAYS YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING

INFORMATION HOW TO PREPARE FOR

THE NEXT STEP IN YOUR CAREER.

YOU HAVE BEEN LEARNING, THINKING

ABOUT YOUR SKILLS, YOUR YOUR

CAREER RELATED VALUES YOUR

CAREER RELATED INTEREST, YOU

HAVE BEEN LEARNING HOW TO

NETWORK AN COLLABORATE MORE

EFFECTIVELY, LEARNING HOW TO

APPLY FOR A GRANT, WORK LIFE

BALANCE.

SO OUR GOAL FOR THE LAST SESSION

IS TO HELP YOU SET SPECIFIC

PLANS AROUND THESE GOALS AND

ACTUALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL

THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE

LEARNED TODAY SO THAT YOU CAN

FINISH UP YOUR Ph.D., FINISH

YOUR POST-DOC, GET INTO AN

INDEPENDENT POSITION, WHATEVER

IT MAYBE.

SO THERE ARE -- HOW MANY FOLKS

HAVE HEARD THE GEORGES COMIC

SERIES?

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YOU SHALL

CHECK IT OUT, PH.D.P COMICS.COM,

IT'S A GREAT SERIES.

THIS ONE -- HELP.

THERE WE GO.

THIS ONE COMIC STRIP I THINK

EXEMPLIFIES ONE WAY YOU CAN GO

ABOUT YOUR CAREER PLANNING, THIS

IS A GRADUATE STUDENT IN THE

OFFICE OF PROFESSOR AN PROFESSOR

SAYS PERHAPS IT'S TIME WE CAME

UP WITH A PLAN FOR HOW YOU'RE

GOING TO FINISH YOUR THESIS AND

SCRIBBLING DOWN NOTES, ARE YOU

READY?

HERE IT IS.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU YOU NEED

TO FINISH YOUR THESIS AND YOU'RE

GOING TO DO IT.

THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO INVOLVE

MUCH AND HE SAYS THAT'S THE

PLAN.

SO A LOT OF YOU MIGHT BE

THINKING OR MIGHT HAVE HEARD

FROM ADVISERS JUST GET IT DONE,

WHATEVER IT IS, JUST FINISH IT.

WE DONE THINK THAT'S VERY GOOD

PLANNING ADVICE AND IF YOU

REMEMBER WHAT WE ARE TALKING

ABOUT YESTERDAY, THE INDUSTRIAL

ORGANIZATIONAL PSYCHOLOGIST, THE

BUSINESS MANAGEMENT PEOPLE THEY

HAVE DONE RESEARCH DEMONSTRATING

THAT'S NOT VERY GOOD ADVICE.

YOU DON'T JUST GET IT DONE.

IT'S MORE EFFECTIVE TO SET SOME

SPECIFIC GOALS, SET A SPECIFIC

PLAN AND START TO ELABORATE ON

WHAT IT IS UP TO DO.

THAT BRINGS US TO STEP 3 OF THIS

INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FROM

SESES, AND THE FOCUS IS ON

CREATING YOUR OWN PLAN.

WE SAY WRITING YOUR OWN PLAN

WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO

HERE TODAY BECAUSE THE SPEAKER

TALKING ABOUT DR. MORRISON

TALKING GRANT WRITING YESTERDAY,

AND HE MADE THE POINT THAT IT'S

IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO YOUR

PROJECT IDEA THAN IT IS TO

ACTUALLY RIOT THEM DOWN -- WRITE

THEM DOWN.

SAME HOLES FOR CAREER PLANNING.

WE HAVE THE VAGUE NEBULOUS IDEAS

BUT WE WANT TO GET DOWN TO -- I

KEEP WANTING TO USE THE KEYBOARD

THE DISCIPLINE OF WRITING

SOMETHING DOWN IS THE FIRST STEP

TOWARD MAKING IT HAPPEN.

COMBINATION TO GET AWAY WITH

VAGUENESS, NON-SENSE, SOMETHING

ABOUT PUTTING YOUR THOUGHTS ON

PAPER, THAT FORCES YOU TO GET

DOWN TO SPECIFICKING.

THAT'S IT'S HARDER TO DECEIVE

YOURSELF OR ANYBODY ELSE.

SO FOR THAT WOMAN WHO WAS NOT A

VERY GOOD PLANNER, HOPEFULLY

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE

PROCESS OF BNG BECOMING A BETTER

PLANNER.

WHAT KINDS OF SPECIFIC THINGS

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE YOU TALK

ABOUT?

WE WANT -- HOW MANY PEOPLE HEARD

OF THE CONCEPT OF SMART GOAL?

A COUPLE.

SO YOUR GOAL SHOULD BE SPECIFIC,

THEY SHOULD BE MEASURABLE, THEY

SHOULD BE ACTION-ORIENTED, THEY

SHOULD BE REALISTIC AND TIME

BOUND, IDEALLY.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE

WHAT A SMART GOAL IS, IS PERHAPS

BY SOME COUNTER EXAMPLES.

HERE ARE SOME NOT SO SMART.

BEING MORE PRODUCTIVE.

HOW MANY HAD THAT AS A GOAL TO

BE PRODUCTIVE?

I CERTAINLY HAVE.

IT'S NOT REALLY A GREAT GOAL IN

THAT IT'S NOT VERY SPECIFIC.

WHAT YOU GOING TO DO TO BE MORE

PRODUCTIVE?

DR. BOSS SAYS HE HASN'T SEEN A

SITCO OM SINCE DLAL DALLAS,

MAYBE LESS TV.

THAT IS NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH.

WHAT IF YOU SAID I'M GOING THE

TURN OFF FACEBOOK FROM 1 P.M. TO

4 P.M. EVERY DAY SO I'M NOT

BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES ABOUT

WHAT MY FRIEND ARE DOING AND

MAYBE THIS H HELP ME GET MORE

WORK THAT'S A MORE SPECIFIC GOAL

FOR BEING MORE PRODUCTIVE.

MAKING NEW CONTACTS.

TALKING A LOT ABOUT NETWORKING

AND GETTING OUT, GETTING TO KNOW

PEOPLE, WE CERTAINLY WANT YOU TO

DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S NOT A MEASURABLE

GOAL.

A BETTER GOAL WOULD BE WHEN I GO

TO MY NEXT SCIENTIFIC CONFERENCE

I'M GOING TO GO HOME HAVING MET

AND GOTTEN THE CARD OF THREE NEW

NU PEOPLE, THAT WAY YOU HAVE A

GOAL, AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE

MET IT AS OPPOSED TO I'M GOING

TO MEET SOME PEOPLE.

WIN A NOBEL PRIZE.

I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE

BY NIGMS BY SAYING THIS IS NOT A

GREAT GOAL.

I CERTAINLY THINK THAT ALL OF

OUR FUNDING AGENCIES WANT

EVERYBODY TO WIN A PRIZE.

NO DOUBT THERE'S TALENT HERE.

IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY ACTION

ORIENTED.

THERE ISN'T A SERIES OF PLANS

THAT YOU CAN SET FOR YOURSELF TO

HELP YOU ACHIEVE A NOBEL PRIZE,

CERTAINLY YOU CAN AS DR. KEISER

SAID, LOOK FOR THE GOLD, BUT YOU

GEAGHT NOBEL PRIZE IS

SERENDIPITOUS, IT INVOLVES

SEVERAL THINGS BUT IF WE KNEW

HOW TO DO IT IT WOULD BE EASIER

TO GET ONE.

MAYBE A GOOD ASPIRATION BUT NOT

A SMART GOAL.

SOLVING WORLD HUNGER, ANOTHER

FABULOUS ASPIRATION BUT THIS IS

THE R IN SMART.

NOT REALISTIC.

AS AN INDIVIDUAL YOU PROBABLY

SOLVE THIS ON YOUR OWN,

INVOLVING LOTS OF PLAYERS, AND

FACTORS, YOU CAN MAKE A

CONTRIBUTION TO IT THROUGH YOUR

RESEARCH BUT AS A GOAL PROBABLY

NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO

WANT TO PUT ON YOUR SHEETS

TODAY.

FINALLY TIME BOUND.

THINKING ANT YOUR CAREER.

AGAIN, WE WANT YOU ALL TO LEAVE

THINKING ABOUT YOUR CAREER.

AND HOW TO SORT OF IMPROVE --

GET TO THE NEXT STEP.

BUT YOU CAN'T JUST SAY YOU'RE

GOING TO THINK ABOUT IT.

YOU NEED TO SAY, NEXT SATURDAY

I'M GOING TO BLOCK OUT THE

AFTERNOON AND I'M GOING TO READ

DR. BOSS'S BOOK OR I'M GOING TO

SPEND SOME TIME LEARNING ABOUT

CAREERS IN INDUSTRY OR I'M GOING

TO MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS TO SET

UP SOME INFORMATIONAL

INTERVIEWS.

THOSE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO DO

IN TERMS OF SMART GOAL SETTINGS.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET DOWN

TO BRASS PACK, I WANT YOU TO

PULL OUT YOUR SHEET.

AND WE'RE GOING TO -- TODAY

WE'LL SET ONE SKILLS GOAL AND

WE'LL SET ONE CAREER PREPARATION

GOAL.

PHIL WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH

CAREER PREPARATION.

I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH

SKILL.

SO WHAT WE WANT YOU DO IS REFER

BACK TO YOUR SKILLS ASSESSMENT.

YOU HAVE RATED VARIOUS SKILLS

UNDER EACH CATEGORY ON A SCALE

OF 1 BEING DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT

NEEDED TO 5 BEING HIGHLY

PROFICIENT.

AND PICK ONE SKILL YOU WANT TO

IMPROVE THAT YOU THINK WILL HELP

YOU IN THE CAREER THAT YOU ARE

HOPING TO ACHIEVE YOUR SHORT

TERM CAREER GOAL, IT DOESN'T

NEED TO BE ONE THAT YOU GOT A

ONE ON, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A SKILL

IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY HIGHLY

IMPORTANT FOR YOU CAREER CHOICE,

AND YOU ONLY GOT A 3, PERHAPS

THAT IS SOMETHING TO IMPROVE

UPON.

WRITE DOWN THE SKILL TO APPROVE,

WHAT APPROACH TO IMPROVE IT AND

WHAT YOUR TIME FRAME IS.

UP IT SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE,

ACTION ORIENTED, REALISTIC AND

TIME BOUND FOR ONE SKILL.

>> HOW MANY OF YOU ARE STILL

WORKING?

>> WE'RE GOING TO SKIP THE PAIR

FOR TIME REASONS BUT CAN ONE

PERSON VOLUNTEER AND TELL US

WHAT SKILLS YOU'RE GOING TO WORK

ON AND WHAT YOUR APPROACH AND

TIME LINE IS?

ANYBODY?

BACK THERE IN GREEN?

(OFF MIC)

>> COW COME TO THE MICROPHONE IF

YOU DON'T MIND?

>> FROM (INDISCERNIBLE) GRAD

SCHOOL BUT I HAVE FORGOTTEN A

LOT OF THAT STUFF BECAUSE I

DON'T USE IT OFTEN.

SO I WANT TO LOOK BACK AT ANY

NOTES AND ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE

ASK MY LAB MATES WHO IS A BIOPIN

FOR MA TIX MASTER STUDENT --

BIOINFORMATICS MASTER STUDENT

AND I WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE HE

LEAVES VACATION IN MAY AND THAT

WAY I HAVE MICROARRAY DATA I

NEED TO LOOK AT AN ANALYZE SO

THAT WILL HELP ME (INAUDIBLE) IN

MY RESEARCH.

>> THAT SOUNDS TO ME VERY

SPECIFIC SOMETHING YOU CAN

MEASURE, YOU'LL KNOW WHEN YOU

COMPLETED IT.

I SAY THAT'S ACTION-ORIENTED,

SEEMS VERY REALISTIC.

YOU HAVE MAY AS A TIME LINE.

YOU MIGHT EVEN WANT A MORE

SPECIFIC TIME LINE AND SET ASIDE

TIME EACH WEEK.

ANYBODY ELSE SHARE A SKILLS

GOAL?

ONE MORE?

>> I WANT TO LEARN A NEW

TECHNIQUE FOR FUTURE LAB.

AND I HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY

SPOKEN WITH THE COLLABORATOR WHO

IS COMING TO MY INSTITUTION IN

MAY.

AND ME PREPARING THE MICE FOR

HIM HE'S GOING THE TEACH ME THAT

TECHNIQUE.

SO I HAVE THE DATA SCHEDULED,

HE'S COMING.

>> I THINK THAT DEFINITELY

SATISFIES SMART GOAL.

ONE THING I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH

BEFORE I TURN IT TO PHIL FOR

CAREER DEVELOPMENT GOALS IS THAT

MANAGING YOUR WORK LIFE BALANCE

THIS LAST SESSION IS ALSO A

SKILL.

SO DON'T BE AFRAID TO SET GOALS

AROUND THOSE ISSUES TOO.

I FIND FOR MYSELF I REALLY LOVE

TO READ FICTION AND I FIND THAT

I NEVER FEEL LIKE I HAVE TIME TO

DO THAT.

AND IT MAKES ME ANXIOUS

ACTUALLY.

SO I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SET A

GOAL FOR MYSELF TO SET ASIDE ONE

HOUR, JUST ONE HOUR A WEEK TO

READ THINGS LIKE THAT REALLY

IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN BALANCE

>> SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME

THING NOW WITH SOMETHING HAVING

TO DO WITH A CAREER WITH YOUR

CAREER PREPARATION.

SO YOU HAVE GOTTEN SOME HINTS,

SOME SUGGESTIONS THROUGH THE

LAST TWO DAYS OF THINGS THAT ARE

GOING -- THAT WILL HELP YOU HOW

TO PUT TOGETHER YOUR CV AND

RESUME ISSUES WITH NETWORKING,

SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THE LAST ENTRY ON THE SHEETS

CAREER ADVANCEMENT SO WE LIKE

YOU EACH TO SET AT LEAST ONE

GOAL WITH HEADINGS.

SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO DO

THAT'S NOT GOING TO COLLECT MORE

DATA, IT'S NOT WRITING ANOTHER

GRANT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFIC

TO MOVING YOUR CAREER ALONG.

>> NO COPYING OFF THE PERSON

NEXT TO YOU, THAT HZ TO BE YOUR

OWN.


SORRY I CLICKED OFF THIS BUT IF

YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME

THINKING OF APPROPRIATE CAREER

PREPARATION GOALS HERE IS THREE

OF THEM THAT JENNIFER AND I

THOUGHT MIGHT WORK.

THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE INTERESTED

IN PHARMACEUTICAL MEDICAL BE

NICE TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE

INSIDE ONE OF THOSE.

SO PAYING A VISIT TO A COMPANY.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING

THAT YOU CAN DO QUICKLY, PETER

FISK'S BOOK, WE MENTIONED LOTS

OF BOOKS YOU HAVE SOME OF THEM

THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN, PETER

FISK'S BOOK PUT YOUR SCIENCE TO

WORK IS SOMETHING TO READ ON THE

WEEKEND, LIGHT AND EASY ASKING

MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS TYPE OF

ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS WE TALK TO

SOMEONE IN A SMALL LIBERAL ARTS

INSTITUTION LIKE SYDELL BLATCH

THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER.

SO HERE ARE EXAMPLES OF THINGS

YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO BUT YOU

WANT TO PUT A TIME LINE ON THEM

SO YOU FIT THAT SMART GUIDELINE.

SO WE'LL GIVE YOU ABOUT ONE MORE

MINUTE TO WRAP THIS UP.

SO RESEARCH CAREER PLANNING SAYS

THAT IF YOU MAKE SPECIFIC PLANS

YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO DO THEM IF

YOU TALK TO SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT

YOUR PLANS YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO

COMPLETE THOSE PLANS.

SO TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR

ACCOUNTABILITY ONE OR TWO TO

SHARE WHAT YOU'RE GOING DO,

SOMEBODY WANT TO LET US

(OFF MIC)

NOT REALISTIC, NOT SPECIFIC

BECAUSE HE

>> LET'S HEAR ABOUT A SMART

CAREER GOAL.

CAN WE GET THIS MICROPHONE ON?

MINE IS PRETTY SPECIFIC, IN

REGARDS TO THE TWO BODY PROBLEM

BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE

OVERWHELMING LOOMING ISSUE

BECAUSE BOTH MY HUSBAND AND I

ARE PURSUING ACADEMICS.

AND INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THE

ISSUE DIRECTLY WE -- EACH SORT

OF THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ASK

PEOPLE FOR ADVICE BUT HAVEN'T

ACTUALLY TALKED TO EACH OTHER

ABOUT IT SO I THINK THAT WE NEED

TO TAKE TIME PERHAPS, WHETHER 30

MINUTES, AN HOUR A WEEK TRYING

TO FIGURE OUT SIMPLE THINGS SUCH

AS WHERE IDEALLY GEOGRAPHICALLY

WE WOULD WANT TO LIVE, WHAT ARE

SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT I COULD

PURSUE OR HE COULD PURSUE IF

ACADEMICS DEB WORK OUT.

AND THEN WHEN THE TIME COMES

BECAUSE WE BOTH BEGAN GRADUATE

SCHOOL, FINISHED GRADUATE SCHOOL

AND ARE DOING WORK ALONG THE

SAME TIME LINE APPLYING FOR

POSITIONS TOGETHER.

WHETHER IT'S AT THE SAME

INSTITUTION BUT TAKING TIME EACH

WEEK TO SEARCH FOR I DON'T KNOWS

TOGETHER.

>> OKAY.

SOY HEARD IT SOUNDED LIKE ME

MORE THAN ONE GOAL, STAY AT THE

MICROPHONE, YOU GET TIME FOR

REBUTTAL.

DIED YOU HEAR MORE THAN ONE GOAL

  I HEARD TALKING TOGETHER.

THAT SEEMS GOOD AND THERE'S

SOMETHING ABOUT APPLICATIONS AND

THERE WERE SOMETHING ELSE IN THE

MIDDLE.

>> LOOKING FORrF4Ť JOBS TOGETHER.

SETTING ASIDE TIME EACH WEEK TO

LOOK FOR JOBS TOGETHER.

>> WHAT WILL YOU DO TO PREPARE

FOR THAT.

WHAT KIND OF BACKGROUND WORK

WILL YOU NEED TO DO?

>> I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY

FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE SKILL

ASSESSMENT SHEETS AGAIN TO

DETERMINE WHAT REALLY OUR

PRIORITIES ARE AND WHERE THEY

OVERLAP AND WHERE THEY DON'T.

>> YOU HEARD WHERE KAREN CARLSON

WAS HONEST HOW HER VALUES

TRUMPED HER SKILLS AND HER

INTEREST.

Z SHE DID FOR A TIME NOT WHAT

SHE WAS MOST SKILLED AT.

SO I THINK THE VALUES ASSESSMENT

MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY

WORTHWHILE WHEN THERE ARE TWO

PEOPLE HERE INVOLVED IN THIS

DECISION.

SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE AT

COPY OF THE VALUE SHEET TO GIVE

TO YOUR PARTNER.

>> APPRECIATE IT.

>> AND MAKE A SPECIFIC DAY OR

DATE.

FOR THAT DISCUSSION, I THINK IT

WILL REALLY HELP YOU SOMEBODY

ELSE WANT TO SHARE?

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

YES, MA'AM.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PERFECT MY

ELEVATOR TALK FOR BOTH SOMEBODY

IN MY SPECIFIC SUB FIELD AN

GENERAL SCIENTIST.

AND MY APPROACH WILL BE TO USE

SOME OF THE TIPS THAT SCOTT

MORGAN GAVE US YESTERDAY AND

DEVOTE TIME TO DOING IT INSTEAD

OF SAYING I'LL DO THAT BUT I

ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT WHEN I CAN

SIT DOWN AND TAKE TIME TO DO

THAT.

I'LL HAVE IT DONE BY WHEN I

LEAVE FOR EB CONFERENCE NEXT

MONTH.

PERFECT PLACE TO HAVE YOUR

ELEVATOR SPEECH READY TO GO.

IS HER GOAL SMART?

IS IT SPECIFIC?

MEASURABLE?

HOW WILL SHE KNOW?

>> IF THE ELEVATOR DOESN'T GO UP

TO THE TOP FLOOR.

ACTION ORIENTED, YES.

REALISTIC.

TIME BOUND.

SHE'S GOING TO DO IT BY THE

MIDDLE OF APRIL.

WHAT ELSE COULD SHE DO TO

IMPROVE?njs THAT GOAL?

NOT IN THAT SMART ACRONYM.

OKAY.

SOMEBODY SUGGEST WRITING IT OUT.

>> PRACTICE WITH OTHERS.

>> PRACTICE WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

I HEARD THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE AN

ELEVATOR SPEECH FOR SCIENTISTS

AS WELL AS NON-SCIENTISTS TOO.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE SHARING YOUR

GOALS WITH OTHER PEOPLE CAN HELP

YOU IMPROVE YOUR GOAL.

SO IT'S A GREAT GOAL, IT SEEMS

REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO

TALK TO PEOPLE AND YOU'RE GOING

TO BUILD THAT ELEVATOR PITCH IN

YOUR COVER LETTER, IN YOUR

INTERVIEW PROCESS WHETHER IN

PERSON INTERVIEW OR PHONE

INTERVIEW, IT'S A VALUABLE PIECE

OF THAT JOB SEARCH PROCESS TO

HAVE DOWN, SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A

GREAT GOAL.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THREE PARTS

OF THIS PROCESS, GONE THROUGH

THE SELF-ASSESSMENT, WE TALKED

HOW TO DO CAREER EXPLORATION AND

YOU HAD A CHANCE TO JUST DIP

YOUR FEET IN THE WATER OF CAREER

EXPLORATION WITH THE PEOPLE THAT

HAVE COME TO TALK AT THIS

SESSION BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE

YOU YOU NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME

ON THIS PIECE.

YOU HAVE WRITTEN A COUPLE OF

GOALS BUT AN IBP NEEDS MORE

THOROUGH THAN JUST A COUPLE OF

GOALS ONCE YOU GET THOSE DOWN

YOU NEED TO IMPLEMENT YOUR PLAN.

THAT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD UNTIL IT

COMES TO HAVING DISCUSSION WITH

YOUR MENTOR, SO AS JEN AND I

TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS IN

OUR PLACES, THEY HAVE SAID OOPS

DO I REALLY HAVE TO SHARE WITH

MY MENTOR?

AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES.

IN FACT EMPHATICALLY THE ANSWER

IS YES, YOU NEED DISCUSSION WITH

YOUR MENTOR ABOUT THIS.

FIRST THIS IS A CASUAL

CONVERSATION FOCUSED ON YOUR

CAREER.

LOTS OF TIME TALKING THE GOALS

FOR THE RESEARCH, NOW IT'S TIME

THE TALK ABOUT THE GOALS FOR

YOUR CAREER.

SO MAKE A SEPARATE APPOINTMENT,

NOT PART OF THE OTHER LAB

MEETINGS.

IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DO IT IN

AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S NOT YOUR

PI OFFICE WHERE THE PHONE CALLS

ARE COMING IN AND COMPUTER

MONITOR IS PINGING EVERY TIME A

NEW EMAIL COMES IN, THAT COULD

BE WORTHWHILE, IT MIGHT BE WORTH

AN INVESTMENT OF $4 TO GO TO

LOCAL STARBUCKS.

MOST OF ALL I THINK IN THIS, YOU

DON'T WANT TO SAY OH, I HAVE

MADE A LIFE CHANGING DECISION,

I'M GOING TO MOVE AWAY FROM

ACADEMIA OR I'M STRUGGLING WITH

WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IN MY

CAREER, LET'S TURN THAT AROUND

AND MAKE IT A POSITIVE.

I HAVE HAD A GREAT YEAR, WE HAVE

ACCOMPLISHED A LOT IN THE LAB

OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME.

I HAVE MADE GREAT PROGRESS ON

THIS PROJECT NOW I'M THINKING

HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A SPRING

BOARD FOR ME FOR MY CAREER, I

WILL LIKE THIS DISCUSSION WITH

YOU AN SET UP AN APPOINTMENT TO

TALK WITH HER OR WITH HIM AB

YOUR CAREER.

YOU CAN TAKE SOME OF THE

MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE GOT HERE,

YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE THE GOALS

THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN AND SAY I

NEED HELP IMPLEMENTING THE GOALS

BUT DONE ATTEMPT TO SHOW ALL

THIS MATERIAL, YOUR SKILL VALUES

AND INTERESTS WORK SHEETS.

BE PREPARED TO NEGOTIATE, IF YOU

NEED TEACHING EXPERIENCE BECAUSE

YOU THINK THE DIRECTION YOU'RE

HEADED IS GOING TO REQUIRE REAL

TEACHING EXPERIENCE, YOU MIGHT

BE ABLE TO TEACH IN A LOCAL

COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR LIB RAT

ARTS SCHOOL BUT YOU'RE

RECOGNIZING THAT THAT TAKES TIME

AWAY FROM THE LAB, SO MAYBE

YOU'RE GOING TO DO EXPERMITS --

EXPERIMENTS ON SATURDAY IF YOU

TEACH WEDNESDAY AND MONDAY.

SO YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR

THAT NEGOTIATION.

SO WE WOULD LIKE THE HELP

PREPARE YOU ONE MORE STEP WITH

THESE GOALS THAT YOU HAVE SET.

NOTICE THERE'S TWO PAGES TO IT.

A CARBONLESS COPY ON THE SECOND

PAGE AND ENVELOPE.

PART OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY IS

FOR YOU TO HOLD YOURSELF

ACCOUNTABLE FINISH WHAT YOU SAID

YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

WE WOULD LIKE TO1s PUT THAT SECOND

COPY INSIDE THE ENVELOPE, SEAL

IT, PUT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON

THE OUTSIDE OF THE ENVELOPE.

THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEAL THE

ENVELOPE.

SO THIS NOTE REMINDER TO YOU IS

GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU IN THE

MAIL, SOMETIME AFTER

JUNE 1st.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CHECK TO FINE

OUT IF THE ELEVATOR PITCH GOT

DONE BY EB.

AND CHECK AND FIND OUT IF

STATISTICS WAS LEARNED WITH THE

HELP OF THE MICROWAVE DATA

BEFORE MAY.

NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO KNOW IT,

WE'RE NOT GOING TO STEAM THEM

OPEN AND SHARE ON FACEBOOK PAGES

ORENING LIKE THAT, THIS IS GOING

TO COME BACK TO YOU.

WHEN YOU WALK OUT IN A FEW

MINUTES, PUT THOSE ON THE

REGISTRATION TABLE, WE'LL GATHER

TOGETHER AND PUT THEM IN THE

MAIL.

SO YOU CAN EXPECT AFTER

JUNE 1st THAT YOU'LL GET

THOSE.

JENNIFER AND I PUT OUR HEADS

TOGETHER AND TRIED THE THINK OF

THE THEMES THAT REVERBERATED FOR

US THROUGH THE SESSIONS THAT WE

HEARD FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS AND

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE

HEARD, AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY

HEARD THEM AND THEY CAME THROUGH

CLEARLY BUT SOMEHOW IT HELPS ME

TO THINK THROUGH AND SUMMARIZE

THE THOUGHT OF A NUMBER OF

SPEAKERS WHO EMPHASIZE KNOW WHAT

YOU WANT, IT'S NOT SOMEBODY

ELSE'S LIFE, NOT YOUR PARENTS'

LIFE, NOT YOUR PI LIFE, IT'S

YOURS BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KNOW

WHAT YOU WANT.

BUT AUTHENTIC IN THE LABORATORY

ON A DAILY BASIS AND WHEN YOU GO

TO THE THE INTERVIEW, BE

AUTHENTIC.

YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE CLEARLY,

YOU NEED TO COMMUNITY CLEARLY

WHEN YOU'RE MAKING

PRESENTATIONS, WHEN YOU'RE

TALKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE, WHEN

WRITING YOUR PAPERS AND YOUR

GRANTS.

WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER

YOUR PAPERWORK FOR JOB

APPLICATIONS THAT CLEAR

COMMUNICATION IS KEY.

WE HEARD FROM SO MANY PEOPLE THE

VALUE OF NETWORKING.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THE

DEFINITION THAT SHARON MILGRAM

GAVE US FOR ESTABLISHING

RELATIONSHIPS PROFESSIONAL

RELATIONSHIPS.

THIS IS A VALUE IN TALKING WITH

PROGRAM OFFICERS IN THE

SCIENTISTS AT THE MEETINGS THAT

YOU GO TO AND MAKING THOSE

CONTACTS IN YOUR OWN

PROFESSIONAL SOCIETY.

WE HEARD TODAY AND BEFORE THAT

THE VALUE OF MULTIPLE MENTORS.

SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT MENTOR YOU

IN THE TECHNICAL SKILLS,

SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE CRITICAL

THINKING SKILLS IN YOUR AREA OF

RESEARCH, SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT

MENTOR YOU IN THE PRESENTATION

SKILLS, SO MULTIPLE MENTORS THAT

ARE GOING TO HELP YOU NAVIGATE

THAT PATH THAT YOU SET FOR

YOURSELF THEN I HEARD A FEW

PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE

IMPORTANCE OF TIME MANAGEMENT

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S A

STRUGGLE FOR ME CERTAINLY.

AND OTHERS THAT ARE HONEST ABOUT

THE STRUGGLE THEY FACE WITH THIS

ISSUE.

JENNIFER AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD

ONE MORE THOUGHT TO THIS LIST

AND TO THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE

GOING TO GO AHEAD AN COMPLETE

THESE GOALS I THINK RATHER THAN

PUT ON A WORD ON A SLIDE IT'S

CONVEYED IN THIS VIDEO.

I HOPE WE HAVE SOUND UP FOR THIS

VIDEO, FOLKS.

>> DIDN'T GET THAT, THAT'S

YOURS, NOBODY ELSECH GET IN

THERE AND GIVE IT SOME HEAT.

GIVE IT SOME HEAT.

GIVE IT SOME HEAT.

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[APPLAUSE]

>> THINGS DON'T ALL WORK OUT THE

WAY YOU PLAN SO BE PERSISTENT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR TWO

DAYS.

WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU

PARTICIPATE IN THIS SESSION.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU, WE WISH

YOU MUCH SUCCESS.

[APPLAUSE]