>>> WELCOME TO INNOVATIONS IN REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGY. THIS IS OUR WOMEN'S HEALTH SEMINAR FOR WOMEN'S HEALTH WEEK. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PROGRAM BRAND FOR YOU. WE HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR COMMITTEE. WHO WILL BE DOING INTRODUCTIONS. KAREN PARKER. KAREN IS THE ACTIVE CHIEF OF SCIENCE AND PLANNING AND THE WOMEN'S HEALTH OFFICER AT THE NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE AND TAMARA IS AT THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL POPULATIONS AND RESEARCH TRAINING AT NIAID IN THE WOMEN'S HEALTH PROGRAM MANAGER THERE. SO THANK YOU TO BOTH OF AND YOU TO THE ENTIRE SEMINAR SERIES COMMITTEE AS WELL AS JOYCE, THE DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS AND MANAGEMENT AND ORWH FOR HELPING TO PUT TOGETHER THIS WONDERFUL PROGRAM. I'D ALSO LIKE TO IDENTIFY OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, HEIDI, BRETT ASK HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND FOR HER WONDERFUL POSTER WORK AND FOR THE REST OF ORWH STAFF FOR HELPING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO ASK KAREN TO COME UP TO DOT INTRODUCTION FOR OUR FIRST SPEAKER, NATIONAL WOMEN'S HEALTH WEEK IS A SPECIAL TIME WHERE WE ATTEND TO SOME OF THE HEALTH CONCERNS OF WOMENY AND WE ARE DELIGHTED TO FOCUS ON REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES THIS YEAR. AN ISSUE OF IMPORTANCE TO MANY AND YOU'LL BE PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT THE RANGE OF TOPICS RELATED TO REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES WE ARE ABLE TO BRING TO YOU TODAY. KAREN? >> THE SEMINAR SERIES COMMITTEE IS PARTICULARLY PLEASED THAT THE SEMINAR IS BEING HOSTED DURING NATIONAL WOMEN'S HEALTH WEEK AND WE ARE VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS TOPIC. IT'S VERY TIMELY AND WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PANEL OF SPEAKERS. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS DR. ALAN -- ALAN DECHERNEY. FULL BIOS ARE IN THE PROGRAM. HE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ETHICAL ISSUES IN EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES AND REPRODUCTIVE MEDICINE AND HE IS HERE AT NIH. HE WORKS IN THE PROGRAM AND REPRODUCTIVE AND ADULT ENDOCRINOLOGY AT THE EUNICE KENNEDY SHRIVER NATIONAL INSTITUTE AND HUMAN DEVELOPMENT. DR. ALAN DECHERNEY. [ APPLAUSE ] >> SO THIS IS DR. EDWARDS. HE'S THE FOUNDER OF IBF. IN 2010, HE GOT THE NOBEL PRIZE. NOW HE DIDN'T GET THE NOBEL FOR 30 OR ALMOST 40 YEARS. TWO REASONS. ONE, HE WAS THE SOCIALIST. MORE IMPORTANT REASON HE DIDN'T GET THE NOBEL PRIZE UNTIL 40 YEARS AFTER HIS DISCOVER SEBECAUSE, SUPPOSEDLY HE DIDN'T DO IT IN ETHICAL FASHION. HE STARTED DOING IVF IN HUMANS WITH VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF ANIMAL WORK. BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT WORKED OUT. THERE ARE PROBABLY 6 MILLION BABIES IN THE WORLD AS A RESULT OF IN-VITRO FERTILIZATION, AND THE LARGE MAJORITY ARE HEALTHY ADULTS, NOW. SOME OF THEM. AND 20 YEARS AGO, THE AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR REPRODUCTIVE MEDICINE, CDC AND CONGRESS ACTIVATED A REGISTRY. SO 95% OF CLINICS IN AMERICA, WHICH THERE ARE ABOUT ALMOST 400 NOW, REGISTER THEIR RESULTS EACH YEAR. THIS IS A CONFUSING SLIDE. IT'S NOT MEANT TO SHOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE IN FACT THAT WE DO HAVE A REGISTRY AND WE DO REGISTER SUCCESS RATES AND EMBRYO NUMBER, OVULATION INDUCTION FOR PATIENTS TO REVIEW. AND THIS IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEB AT THE CDC SITE. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ETHICAL ISSUES. IT'S A LIMITED TIME SO WE CAN'T TALK A LOT ABOUT MANY OF THE ISSUES. THIS IS A HIGHLY-INTERESTING AREA AS FAR AS ETHICS ARE CONCERNED. THE MAJOR REASON IS THAT EVERYBODY IS KIND OF PARTICIPATES IN REPRODUCTION AT SOME POINT, EVEN IF YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE THE RESULT OF REPRODUCTION ESTIMATE POINT IN YOUR LIFE. SO, A DAY OR WEEK DOESN'T GO BY THAT THERE IS NOT SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT DOESN'T REPRESENT SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO THE ETHICAL OR LEGAL ISSUES SURROUNDING THESE TECHNOLOGIES. WE'LL TALK ABOUT SEX SELECTION AND POST MORTEM REPRODUCTION, FREEZING EGGS AND DISEASE PER PETTATION AND SINGLE WOMEN. SO FIRST LET'S LOOK AT THE HOT PART NOW IN REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, CHROMOSOMAL,LOR GENETIC ANALYSIS. THE ULTIMATE GOAL WOULD BE TO LOOK AT OR BIOPSY EMBRYOS AND LOOK AT EVERY EMBRYO BEFORE THEY WERE REPLACED AND DO A GENETIC PROFILE ON THOSE EMBRYOS SO YOU WOULD FINISH YOUR CHILD HAS A 20% CHANCE OF DEVELOPING STAGE 2 DIABETES WHEN IT REACHES ADULTHOOD. SO THAT IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL. WHAT IS PRACTICAL TODAY IS THERE ARE PROBABLE BE400 DISEASE THAT IS CAN BE IDENTIFIED AND CAN BE ELIMINATED BY NOT PLACING THOSE EMBRYOS BACK. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SIMPLE ISSUE AND IF THE PATIENT HAS AN EMBRYO, OR WILL HAVE A FATAL DISEASE AT THE YOUNG STAGE OF THAT PERSON'S LIFE, THAT SOUNDS EASY. BUT THIS IS EXTREMELY CONTROVERSIAL. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, I SPOKE TO THE SMALL PEOPLE OF AMERICA, THE LAY SOCIETY MADE UP OF MIDGEITS AND DWARFS AND DWARFS, COULD BE ELIMINATED IN ONE GENERATION. IT'S A SINGLE AUTOSOMAL DOMINANCE. THEY WERE UPSET BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A DISEASE. THEY HAD A NORMAL LIFE. THEY WORKED, THEY GOT MARRIED AND THEY HAD CHILDREN. SO THIS ENTERS INTO AN AREA OF ETHICAL CONTROVERSY AS TO HOW FAR WE GO AS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED. I THEN IS HARD TO READ. IT'S JUST TO SHOW THERE ARE MANY GENES INVOLVED IN MANY OF THESE DISEASES. NOW THAT WE DO GENETIC PROFILING ON EMBRYOS, A LOT OF TIMES WE FIND THINGS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN. A BIG DELETION IN ONE OF THE GENES. OR AN OVEREXPRESSION OF SOME OF THE GENES. WHAT DO YOU TELL THE PARENT IN WE DON'T KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THAT GENE OR THAT CHANGE IN THE GENETIC MAKEUP, BUT ETHICALLY, YOU MUST TELL THE PARENTS THAT THIS IS TRULY THE CASE. I WANT TO GO BACK. CAN I GO BACK? CAN YOU TAKE ME BACK ONE? GREAT. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS AND I WANT YOU TO RANK THEM IN YOUR MIND AS FAR AS HOW ACCEPTABLE THIS IS TO THE PUBLIC. ONE, DIAGNOSE A DISEASE THAT IS FATAL. MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY IS THE MOST COMMON EXAMPLE. NUMBER 2, YOU HAVE A CHILD WITH FRAN CONIES ANEMIA. SO YOU GET PREGNANT AGAIN AND YOU MAKE SURE THAT CHILD, THE NEXT CHILD, DOESN'T HAVE THAT BYING THE EMBRYO AND WHEN THAT CHILD IS BORN, YOU CAN USE THE BONE MARROW OF THAT CHILD IN ORDER TO TREAT THE EXISTING SIBLING AND THEREFORE ELIMINATE THE DISEASE. THE NEXT SOMETHING LIKE BRCA1 WHERE IT'S NOT TERRIBLY OR NOT FATAL, NECESSARILY. AND IT HAS A LOW PENETRANTS AS FAR AS DEVELOPING DISEASE IS CONCERNED. THE NEXT IS SEX SELECTION AND THE LAST WOULD BE TRAIT SELECTION, BLUE EYES, GOOD ATHLETIC ABILITY. JUST STUDY WAS DONE AND PUBLISHED IN JAMA BY HUDSON WHO WORKS HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE I PETEY MUCH GAVE IN THE ORDER OF THAT THEY ARE ACCEPTABLE. CERTAINLY A SERIOUS DISEASE IS HIGHLY ACCEPTABLE. HAVING A CHILD, NOT HAVE THE CHILD, YOU ALSO KEEP THE CHILD AND LOVE THAT SECOND CHILD, JUST LIKE THE FIRST CHILD, SOMEWHAT QUESTIONABLE IN BCCA1 AND 21. WHEN WE COME TO SEX SELECTION AND TRAIT SELECTION THIS BECOMES MUCH MORE CONTROVERSIAL. WHEN YOU POLL A POPULATION, AT LEAST THE UNITED STATES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MAJORITY WOULD PREFER WHEN CHOOSING A BOY OR GIRL WOULD CHOOSE TO HAVE A MALE. MOST PEOPLE DO NOT CARE, OBVIOUSLY BUT THE TRUTH IS WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE SEX SELECTION, THEY ARE -- THEIR INTEREST DISAPPEARS. WE SEE A NUMBER OF PARENTS WHEN THEY FIND OUT IT'S EXPENSIVE, THEY DON'T PURSUE THAT. SO ALTHOUGH IS IT AN INTERESTING ETHICAL ISSUE TO DISCUSS, IT'S NOT A REAL PRACTICAL ONE THAT WE TOLERATE. THE OTHER THING IS TRUSTING PEOPLE AS FAR AS GENETIC CENTRAL CONCERNED. WE'RE BUILDING DIAGNOSIS ON THESE EMBRYOS. WHAT ABOUT SHARING THIS INFORMATION? OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE TRUST PHYSICIANS AND RESEARCH BUT THEY DON'T WANT THIS INFORMATION TO BE PUBLIC. SO ANOTHER ETHICAL ISSUE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION THAT WE GLEAN FROM THESE EMBRYO THAT IS WE BIOPSY AS FAR AS THEIR GENETIC MATERIAL IS CONCERNED IS KEPT SOMEWHAT PRIVATE. NOW THE NEXT ETHICAL ISSUE, AND A VERY CURRENT ONE AND HOTLY DEBATED ONE, IS THE ISSUE OF SINGLE EMBRYO TRANSFERS. WHEN WE STARTED, YOU CAN SEE THE TWINNING RATE AND THE TWINNING RATE COMING DOWN. BUT WHEN WE STARTED, YEARS AGO, 30 YEARS AGO, SUCCESS RATES WERE VERY LOW. AND THE ONLY WAY TO INCREASE SUCCESS RATES WERE TO PUT A LARGE NUMBER OF EMBRYOS BACK. BUT AS WE GOT BETTER, THE LABORATORY GOT BETTER. OVULATION INDUCTION GOT BETTER, PATIENT SELECTION GOT BETTER AS WELL, THEN WE WERE ABLE TO PUT FEWER EM BRIEOYS BACK AND THEREFORE ACHIEVE THE SAME SUCCESS RATE. AND WHAT THIS GRAPH SIMPLY SHOWS IS THAT IT PLOTS THE NUMBER OF EMBRYOS YOU PUT BACK AGAINST AGE AND THE MORE YOU PUT BACK, LIKELY AS THE PATIENT TO GET PREGNANT AND ALSO THE RISK OF MULTIPLE GESTATION. SO NOW, THE GOAL ACTUALLY SOCIETY, DOCTORS, HAVE ONE GOAL, AND PATIENTS HAVE A DIFFERENT GOAL. OUR ROLE IS SINGLE EMBRYO TRANSFER BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE TWINS OR TRIPLETS. IT'S JUST CERTAINLY YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE, TRIPLETS ARE A REAL PROBLEM. ON THE OTHER HAND, THIS IS EXPENSIVE. THE PATIENTS IS A LOT OF MONEY INVESTED IN THIS. AND FOR THAT REASON, THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE HIGHEST SUCCESS RATE POSSIBLE. SO, THE DIALOGUE THEN IS BETWEEN A SINGLE EMBRYO TRANSFER AND A TWO EMBRYO TRANSFER OR A 3 EMBRYO TRANSFER. NOW, WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHICH IS THE BEST EMBRYO F WE COULD PICK THE BEST, THAT WOULD MAKE IT VERY SIMPLE. WE HAVE SOME TOOLS THAT WE'LL DISCUSS BUT WE DON'T KNOW REALLY WHICH IS THE BEST EMBRYO TO PLACE BACK IN THE UTERUS WITH ANY FINITE DISTINCTION AT THIS POINTER. NOW PATIENTS WANT TWINS BECAUSE IT'S INSTANT FAMILY, THEY WAITED A LONG TIME. THEY HAD A LOT OF MONEY INVESTED AND THEY ARE HAPPY WITH THAT RESULT. NOW, WE HAD SOME IMPACT, IT JUST LOOKS AT TWO TRIPLETS, TWINS AND SINGLETONS. YOU CAN SEE THAT IS GONE UP TO 5-12% IN THIS STUDY THAT WAS TWO YEARS -- ACTUALLY FOUR YEARS OLD NOW. TWO EMBRYO TRANSFERS HAVE GONE WAY AND YOU WANT NUMBER OF 3 EMBRYO TRANSFERS HAVE GONE WAY WAY DOWN. THIS IS A DRAMATIC IMPACT IN THAT TRIP LETS ARE RARE NOW OR GREATER THAN TRIP LETS. BUT TWINS STILL ARE ABOUT 20% OF PREGNANCIES RESULTING FROM IN-VITRO FERTILIZATION. NOW, ONE WAY TO COMPENSATE FOR THIS IS TO DO A BLAST TRANSFER, WHICH MEANS LETTING THE EMBRYO GROW IN A DISH FOR FIVE DAYS INSTEAD OF THREE. THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IS OBVIOUS. IF IT MAKES IT TO FIVE, IT'S A HEALTHIER EMBRYO AND THEREFORE WE KNOW THESE ARE HEALTHY. THIS IS A STUDY WE WERE ABLE TO DO. WALTER REED CENTER, WE DO OUR IVF. AND THE PROBLEM OF COURSE WITH TRIPLETS, EVEN THOUGH WE COUNCIL PATIENTS, THE PREMATURITY AND RATE IS EXTREMELY HIGH. HYPERTENSION IN THE MOTHER AND GESTATIONAL DIABETES ARE EXTREMELY HIGH. THESE PATIENTS, THE UTERUS IS MARKEDLY DISSENDED SO HEMORRHAGE IS A PROBLEM. THEY USUALLY DELIVERED BY C-SECTION AND THE OFFICIAL BURDEN OF HAVING TRIPLETS IS TREMENDOUS TO THE COUPLE THEMSELVES AND ALSO TO SOCIETY. THE AVERAGE SINGLETON COSTS SOCIETY THROUGH THE FIRST MONTH OF LIFE, ABOUT $10,000. TWINS ABOUT $50,000 AND EACH OF THE TRIPLETS COSTS ABOUT $100,000 UNTIL THEY GET OUT OF THE HOSPITAL OF BEING SO PREMATURE AND FOR THE NICU FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME AND THEN TRIPLETS MOSTLY ASSOCIATED WITH PREMATURITY AND IS RESPIRATORY DISTRESS, INTRACRANIAL HEMORRHAGE, NEUROLOGIC DAMAGE AND OF COURSE THESE CHILDREN HAVE DISABILITIES. SO TRIPLETS ARE SOMETHING TO BE AVOIDED AND THAT'S WHY SINGLE EMBRYO TRANSFERS, I THINK, IS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE AND THAT WOULD BE GENETICS, IT WILL BE HELPFUL IN A MOMENT YOU'LL SEE. BUT PATIENTS ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THIS WAS A STUDY DONE IN IOWA, WHERE THEY POLLED PATIENTS AND YOU CAN SEE A FAIR NUMBER WERE NOT SUPPORTIVE. SOME WERE SUPPORTIVE BUT ONLY THE 24.5%, THE REDDISH PIECE OF PIE IN THIS GRAPH, WERE SUPPORTIVE AND UNDERWENT EMBRYO TRANSFER. IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND POLL DIFFERENT GROUPS, MOST GROUPS DON'T DO ANYWHERE 20% AS FAR AS SINGLE EMBRYO TRANSFERS AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE THE PATIENTS SIGN UP FOR IT WHEN THEY BEGIN THEIR CYCLE. IF YOU LOOK AT TOTAL OR IF YOU LET THE PREGNANCY GO OR THE EMBRYO GO TO FIVE DAYS TO A BLAST, AND YOU DO TOTAL CHROMOSOMAL ABNORMALITY ASSESSMENT, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT PATIENTS DO VERY WELL BY SELECTING EMBRYO THAT IS ARE CHROMOSOMALLY NORMALLY AS FAR AS FATALITIES OR ANPLOYEDY IS CONCERNED. SO, THE FUTSURTHAT A SINGLE EMBRYO TRANSFER WILL GET BETTER. IT WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW THIS EVOLVES FROM AN ETHICAL STANDPOINT WHETHER PATIENTS WILL ACCEPT THIS OR NOT AND WHETHER THIS CONCEPT OF TWINS, BEING AN INSTANT CURE FOR SERIOUS PROBLEM, WILL TAKE HOLD AND THEN -- NOW THE THIRD ETHICAL ISSUE IS THE OUTCOME OF THESE INFANTS. ARE WE DOING QUOTE, BAD THINGS AS FAR AS THESE INFANTS ARE CONCERNED? WELL, THERE WERE TWO STUD THESE CAME OUT THAT WERE IMPORTANT. THIS STUDY SHOWED THAT ALL PATIENTS, ALL IN FERTILITY PATIENTS, WHETHER THEY HAD ART OR WHETHER THEY WERE TREATED WITH SOMETHING ELSE, HAD A RISK OF LOW GESTATIONAL WEIGHT AT THE TIME OF DELIVERY AND OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS HAVE ALSO BEEN LOOKED AT. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE IVF THAT IS IMPORTANT. IT'S THE FACT THAT THESE PATIENTS ARE INFERTEL TO START WITH. AND THEN THERE WAS A STUDY IN THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL SIX YEARS AGO THAT SHOWED THE CONGENITAL ANOMALY RATE WAS DOUBLED IN THIS GROUP THAT HAD ART AND IXI, WHERE THE SPERM IS INJECTED DIRECTLY INTO THE EGG ITSELF. THEY SAID IT WAS DOUBLED. OF COURSE IF WENT FROM 4% TO 8%. SO MOST PATIENTS ALTHOUGH THEY ARE INFORMED, THEIR DESIRE TO HAVE A CHILD OUT WEIGHS THE PERCEPTION OF THAT RISK. SO, THERE ARE RISKS IN THIS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PREGNANCY. THE INFERTILITY ITSELF IS A PROBLEM. BUT WHAT WE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN IS ART, DOES GROWING THAT EMBRYO IN A PEE TREE DISH FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, IS THAT IMPLYING THAT THIS WILL BE IMPACT SOME ABNORMALITY FOR THESE OFFSPRING? IS THERE SOME EVIDENCE THAT IS VER ANECDOTAL. THESE ARE IN PRINTING DEFECTS WHERE BECK WIDTH AND WEED MAN SYNDROME AS FAR AS CHROMOSOMAL CONTENT CONCERNED, AND THIS IS A CHROMOSOMAL MANIFESTATION THAT CAN BE PERHAPS CENTERED WITH THE CULTURE MEDIA -- ASSOCIATED -- MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT INCREASED IN THESE PATIENTS. UNFORTUNATELY, THESE STUDIES COME FROM A GROUP OF INTERESTED PEOPLE AND THEY ARE NOT LONGITUDINAL STUDIES. THAT BRINGS US TO A PAREN THAT IS IN THIS WEEK'S NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL, JUST ILLUSTRATING HOW CURRENT THIS IS. ANOTHER PAPER SHOWING THAT THE CONGENITAL ANOMALY RATE OR DEFECT RATE, GOES FROM 4% TO 8%. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH CORROBORATING THE FIGURES AND PERHAPS THERE IS A STORY HERE. THIS IS ALWAYS -- THIS IS FROM AUSTRALIA WHERE THEY HAVE GOOD ARE REGISTRIES AS WELL. THE CRITICISM IS ALWAYS THAT IT'S NOT A GIANT DIFFERENCE. IT'S HARD TO TELL WHETHER THERE IS A REAL DIFFERENCE HERE. BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT'S AN OBSERVED AND PUBLISHED DIFFERENCE SO IT'S SOMETHING WE MUST COUNCIL OUR PATIENTS WITH AND MUST PAY ATTENTION TO OVER THE LONG HAUL. NOW, THE NEXT IS FROZEN EGGS. FROZEN EGGS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. THEY ALLOW US TO SAVE EGGS IN PATIENTS THAT ARE BROUGHT ON TO GO ON TO CANCER THERAPY FOR THAT MATTER. THIS IS A CONTROVERSIAL AREA. SHOULD A WOMAN AT 24 HAVE HER EGGS FROZEN SO THEN WHEN SHE IS 50 AND WANTS TO HAVE A CHILD, SHE WILL HAVE THESE 24-YEAR-OLD EGGS TO TRANSFER? SO, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT AS A WOMAN GETS OLDER, HER EGGS AGE AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE THE SO-CALLED BIOLOGICAL CLOCK STARTING TO TICK IN THIS BLUE AREA AND NOT ONLY DOES HE THE PREGNANCY RATE GO DOWN, BUT THE SPONTANEOUS ABORTION RATE GOES UP AFTER A WOMAN REACHES THE AGE OF 40. SO, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO? IS THIS IMPORTANT? IT'S EXPENSIVE. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT SOCIETY SHOULD SUPPORT? INTEREST CONJUNCTION WITH THIS IS IVF FOR SINGLE WOMEN. WE HAVE DONE SINGLE WOMEN INSEMINATIONS FOR MANY YEARS. IT'S WORKED OUT QUITE WELL, AT FLEET MY ADVANTAGE POINT. BUT YET, ALL OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR, SINGLE WOMEN INSEMINATION OR IVF FOR SINGLE SWIM A HIGHLY-CONTROVERSIAL AREA AND MOST MEMBERS OF SOCIETY THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO. THAT CONCEPTION SHOULD BE PART OF THE USUAL NUCLEAR FAMILY. NOW IT'S NOT ALWAYS PERFECT. THIS IS ROBERT GRAHAM. HE HAD A SPERM BANK THAT HE WOULD ONLY ACCEPT THE SPERM FROM NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS. AND THE RECIPIENTS OF THE SPERM HAD TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE MEMBERS OF MENSA, THAT THEIR IQ WAS OVER 140. SO IT WAS KIND OF AUREUS. OBVIOUSLY IT DIDN'T LAST VERY LONG. HE ONLY HAD SPERM FROM TWO NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS AND HE KIND OF LOWERED HIS STANDARDS AS FAR AS WHO WERE THE SPERM DONATES. SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL HEAR THINGS PEEROTODICALLY PEOPLE BREAK THE SYSTEM BUT BASICALLY THE SYSTEM IS PRETTY FOOLPROOF. THE LATEST, THE OCTO-MOM IN CALIFORNIA. SO, THE BOTTOM LINE OF COURSE IS MONEY. THIS IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. IT COSTS ANYWHERE FROM 10-20,000 DOLLARS A CYCLE FOR IVF AND YOU CAN SEE WHY PATIENTS ARE INTENSE IN ACHIEVING A PREGNANCY AT THAT RATE AND OF COURSE, THE GENETIC TESTING ADDS ANOTHER 3-5000 DOLLARS TO THE ULTIMATE COST. AND THE QUESTION THEN IS: [ READING ] IS THIS SOMETHING THAT SOCIETY SHOULD PAY FOR? SHOULD INSURANCE COMPANIES PAY FOR IT? IT'S MANDATED IN 13 STATES THAT PAY VARIOUS AMOUNTS, SOMETIMES LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PSYCHEELS AND SOMETIMES LIMITS THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS BUT SOME FEEL THIS SHOULDN'T BE PAID FOR AT ALL BECAUSE IT IS AN ECONOMIC DRAIN ON SOCIETY THAT IS NOT JUSTIFIED. AND OF COURSE, THE PATIENTS HAVE A DIFFERENT CONCEPTION. BAD PUN. I HAVE TICKETS FOR THE LION KING IN FIVE YEARS SO I WANT TO CONCEIVE NEXT MONTH. SO THEIR CONCEPT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT OUR CONCEPT IS. SO I'LL STOP AND THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] QUESTIONS? [ OFF MIC ] >> I DON'T KNOW. SAY THE QUESTION AND I'LL REPEAT IT. >> [ OFF MIC ] >> THE QUESTION IS IF YOU USE DONOR - SIGHTS IN THESE PATIENTS DO THEY HAVE THE SAME EFFECT AS THE RECENT NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL PAPER THAT SHOWS THE CONGENITAL ANOMALY RATE WAS DOUBLED. 4-8% IS NOT REALLY DOUBLING. IT'S DOUBLING THE NUMBER, NOT THE INCIDENCE. BUT THE ANSWER IS, NO. THE ANSWER IS, IT'S CORRECTED IN THOSE PATIENTS. DONOR PATIENTS THAT ARE DONORS DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM. SO YES, THE IMPLICATION IS THAT THESE ARE, THAT IT'S INHERENT IN THE EGG OR THE MEN ARE OLDER AS WELL TOO. SO IT COULD BE FROM THE SPERM. THERE ARE VERY LITTLE STUDIES THAT LOOK AT OLDER WOMEN AND YOUNGER MEN, THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO HAPPEN ENOUGH FOR US TO STUDY THAT POPULATION. SO WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION AT LEAST NOW FROM AN EPIDEMIOLOGIC STANDPOINT LOOKING AT PATIENT POPULATIONS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU DR. ALAN DECHERNEY NEXT WE HAVE DOCTOR CLARISA. A PROFESSOR IN OBSTETRICS AND GYNECOLOGY AT THE PEN FERTILITY CARE. SHE WILL BE DISCUSSING EMERGING TECHNOLOGY IN ONCOFERTILITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INVITING ME TO BE HERE TODAY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS TOPIC DEAR TO MY HEART AND REPRESENT THE WORK THAT I HAVE BEEN DOING. SO, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, A BETTER DIAGNOSTIC METHOD AND STRATEGIES FOR TREATMENT IN CANCER PATIENTS HAVE BASICALLY ALLOWED MORE AND MORE CANCER PATIENTS TO SURVIVE AND LIVE PRODUCTIVE LIVES. IN PARTICULAR, OVER 130,000 REPRODUCTIVE AGED PATIENTS ARE DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER ANNUALLY AND APPROXIMATELY 77% OF THOSE WERE DIAGNOSED DURING THEIR REPRODUCTIVE YEARS, ACTUALLY LIVE AT LEAST 5 YEARS. SHOW HAS CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE A LITTLE BIT IN ONCOLOGY IN THAT ONCOLOGISTS ARE NOT ONLY FOCUSING ON TREATING CANCER AND CURING CANCER BUT ALSO FOCUSING ON LONG TERM QUALITY OF LIFE AND SURVIVORSHIP ISSUES IN THIS POPULATION. UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE MORE AND MORE INDIVIDUALS ARE DELAYING CHILD BEARING, MANY INDIVIDUALS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER DURING THE REPRODUCTIVE YEARS HAVE NOT YET COMPLETED THEIR FAMILIES. AND SO, THIS HAS BECOME A MAJOR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE IN THIS POPULATION. THANKFULLY, TECHNIQUES HAVE IMPROVED TO PRESERVE FERTILITY NEINDIVIDUALS WITH DIAGNOSIS OF CANCER. ALLOWING MORE AND MORE CANCER SURVIVORS TO HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN. AND ACTUALLY, THE ENTHUSIASM AND GROWTH OF THIS AREA FERTILITY PRESERVATION IN CANCER PATIENTS HAS REALLY LED TO AN ENTIRELY NEW DISCIPLINE CALLED ONCOFERTILITY, WHICH HAS BEEN THE MERGING OF THE FIELDS OF ONCOLOGY AND REPRODUCTIVE MEDICINE. SO TODAY I'M GOING TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES IN FERTILITY PRESERVATION. AND I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE THEE MAIL JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. AND SO YOU HEAR THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS A OVERVIEW OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IN REPRODUCTIVE MEDICINE. SO ONE OPTION THAT FEMALES HAVE IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OVARIAN STIMULATION, AND HAVING MATURE - SITES RETRIEVED FERT LIED WITH SPERM FROM A PARTNER OR SPERM DONOR AND BASICALLYCRYO PRESERVING EMBRYOS. ANOTHER OPTION THAT IS MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR WOMEN WITHOUT A SEXUAL PARTNER WITH WHOM THEY WANT TO HAVE A FAMILY IN THE FUTURE IS GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS BUTCRYO PRESERVING MATURE EGGS. THIS IS ALLOWING WOMEN TO HAVE REPRODUCTIVE AUTONOMY AND ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE A BABY WITH WHOMEVER THEY WANT IN THE FUTURE. ANOTHER TECHNIQUE IS TO BASICALLY COLLECT IMMATURE EGGS FROM THE OVARIES AND THEN PUT THEM THROUGH A PROCESS OF IN-VITRO MATURATION AND THEN FREEZE EITHER MATURE - SITES OR FERTILIZE THEM AND THEN FREEZE EMBRYOS THAT THE TIME AND THENCRYO PRESERVE OVARIAN TISSUE. SO THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FIRST HUMAN LIVE BIRTH WAS REPORT FRIDAY EGG FREEZING IN 1986. JUST TWO YEARS AFTER THE FIRST LIVE BIRTH FROM EMBRYO FREEZING. IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY SLOW TO TAKE OFF. AND WHY IS THAT? BASICALLY BECAUSE THE EARLIER RESULTS WERE DISAPPOINTING WHEN WE COMPARED THEM TO EMBRYO FREEZING. THE SEGA LARGE AS WELL A HIGH WATER CONTENT SO WHEN YOU FREEZE WATER, ICE CRYSTALS FORM, THE CELL EXPANDS, THE CELL RUPTURES AND THAT VERY DELICATE MYOTICS SPINDLE CAN BECOME DISRUPTED. THIS SAY REAL CHALLENGE FOR OOCYTE PRESERVATION. THERE HAVE BEEN DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TECHNIQUE OVER THE PAST 5-10 YEARS AND THE BIGGEST CHANGE HAS REALLY BEEN THE MOVE FROM USING A SLOW-FREEZE TECHNIQUE TO VENTRIFICATION. VITRIFICATION ESSENTIALLY INVOLVES PLACING THE - SITES IN VERY SMALL VOLUMES AND VERY CONCENTRATEDCRYO PROTECT OPPORTUNITIES DEHYDRATE THESE CELLS AND PLUNGE THEM INTO LICK WIT NITROGEN WHICH PREVENTS ICE CRYSTAL FORMATION AND ALLOWS THE OOCYTE TO MAINTAIN ITS INTEGRITY. AND MULTIPLE STUDIES HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED SHOWING THAT SUCCESS RATES HAVE IMPROVED. AND MOST OF THESE STUDIES USE TECHNIQUES LIKE VITRIFICATION. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT STUD THEY IS RECENTLY COME OUT IN THE PAST FEW YEARS WAS BY ANNA AND PUBLISHED IN HUMAN REPRODUCTION IN 2000 10 AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS PAPER, SHOULD YOU LOOK AT IT. BASICALLY THIS WAS A RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIAL OF ALMOST 600 DONOR EGG CYCLES LOOKING AT USING EITHER VITRIFIED OR FRESH OOCYTES AND BASICALLY, IN THESE YOUNG PATIENTS, THEY FOUND THAT SURVIVAL OF OCYTES WAS EXCELLENT OVER 90% SURVIVED AND FERTILIZATION RATES, IMPLANTATION SEPARATES CLINICAL PREGNANCY RATES FOR TRANSFER WERE NO DIFFERENT WHEN THEY USED VITRIFIED AND WARMED VERSUS FRESH EGGS. AND SO THIS IS REALLY A LANDMARK STUDY. OVERALL, THE CLINICAL PREGNANCY RATES PERO SITE WERE ABOUT 4.5%. WHICH IS SIMILAR TO OTHER STUDIES IN THE AREA. THEY HAVE CONSIDEREDO SITECRYO PRESERVATION EXPERIMENTAL AND STATES THIS SHOULD ONLY BE PERFORMED UNDER AN INVESTIGATIONALAL PROTOCOL UNDER AN IRB. AND REALLY THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. THAT THE BIGGEST AREA OF CONTROVERSY HAS NOT BEEN IN THE CANCER POPULATION BUT HAS BEEN IN THE AREA OF ELECTIVE EGG FREEZING IN ORDER TO DELAY CHILD BEARING. AS MORE DATA COMES OUT, I SUSPECT THEY WILL RECONSIDER THE EXPERIMENTAL DESIGNATION. WORN OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH FREEZING MATURE EGGS OR EMBRYOS FOR THAT MATTER IS THE FACT THAT WOMEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OVARIAN STIMULATION WHICH FIRST OF ALL IS ONLY POSSIBLE IN A POST-PUBITAL FEMALE AND THEN ESSENTIALLY INVOLVES A PROCESS OF OVARIAN STIMULATION WITH INJECT TABLES WHICH REQUIRES CLOSE MONITORING. THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DELAY CHANCER THERAPY FOR 2-4 WEEKS AND CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHEST JEN LEVELS WHICH MAY BE A CONCERN IN THE SETTING OF ESTROGEN-SENSITIVE CANCERS LIKE ENDOMETRIAL OR BREAST CANCER. AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH HAS BEEN SUGGESTED BY SEVERAL INVESTIGATORS, IVF WHERE YOU BASICALLY AS OPERATE EGGS FROM THE OVARIES, USUALLY TRANSVAGINALY WITH VERY LIMITED STIMULATION OR NO STIMULATION AT ALL. THIS HAS CONSISTENTLY SHOWN TO HAVE LOWER SUCCESS RATES THAN WHEN YOU TAKE MATURE OOCYTES AND FREEZE THEM. IN ADDITION, DEPENDING ON THE PROTOCOL USED, IT MAY ONLY SHAVE OFF A FEW DAYS OR A WEEK FROM THE STIMULATION PROCESS AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, IF A PATIENT WITH CANCER CAN WAIT FIVE DAYS TO UNDERGO STIMULATION, THEY CAN WAIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS TECHNIQUE HASN'T TAKEN OFF. ANOTHER STRATEGY THAT GAINED A LOT OF ATTENTION IS OVARIAN TISSUE BANKING. THE BENEFIT OF THIS TECHNIQUE IS THAT THEORETICALLY, IT REPRESENTS A WAY TO CRYOPRESERVE THOUSANDS OFO SITES AT ONE TIME AND DOESN'T REQUIRE STIMULATION OF ANY SORT. SO MINIMAL DELAY IN TREATMENT. NO PARTNERS ARE NEEDED. THE TISSUE HAS TO BE REMOVED SURGICALLY. A OVARY CAN BE REMOVED AND ESSENTIALLY AFTER LATER ON AFTER CANCER HAS BEEN CURED, TRANSPLANTATION MAY BE POSSIBLE OR THE TISSUE COULD BE GROWN AND MATURE OCYTES, THEORETICALLY COULD BE ISOLATED TO USE IN IN VITRO MATURATION. THIS SAY PICTURE OF A PATIENT OF MINE WHO UNDERWENT OVARIAN TISSUE CRYOPRESERVATION. SHE WAS 18 WITH A SARCOMA PLANNING ON GETTING HIGH DOSE ALKYLATING AGING THERAPY AND YOU CAN SEE LAPAROSCOPIC REMOVAL OF THE CORTICAL TISSUE FROM THE OVARY. ALL THE EGGS RESIDE IN THE CORTEX OR IN THE OUTSIDE OF THE OVARY. SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE A PIECE OR SHAVE OFF THAT CORTICAL TISSUE IS TYPICALLY THE TECHNIQUE THAT IS USED. THE CORE TEXT THEN DIVIDED INTO SMALL FRAGMENTS PLACED CRYOPROTECTANT AND FROZEN. TO TRANSPLANT THE TISSUE, DO YOU ANOTHER SURGICAL PROCEDURE WHERE YOU TAKE THE CORTICAL TISSUE OFF THE OVARY WHICH PRESUMABLY IS OR HAS NO EGGS THAT THE POINT AFTER TREATMENT, AND THEN THE FRAGMENTS OF TISSUE GET PLACED ON THE OVARY. YOU PUT AN ABSORBABLE MESH OVER THE TOP WHICH HOLDS THE PIECES IN PLACE AND SO FAR, THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 16 LIVE BIRTHS REPORTED THROUGH TRANSPLANTATION OF PREVIOUSLY CRYOPRESERVED TISSUE. I HEARD THAT THE NUMBER WAS UP TO 22 BUT AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I FOUND IN TERMS OF PUBLISHED REPORTS. A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DIAGNOSIS ARE REPRESENTED AS YOU CAN SEE, AND ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO CRYOPRESERVE TISSUE WERE ADULTS AT THE TIME THE TISSUE WAS ACQUIRED. PREGNANCIES HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO OCCUR WITHOUT ASSISTANCE AND SOME PREGNANCY OCCURRED AFTER IVF. AND THE IMPORTANT THING TO RECOGNIZE IS IS THERE NO WAY TO REALLY PROVE THAT THE EGG CAME FROM THE TRANSPLANTED TISSUE OR IF IT CAME FROM TISSUE THAT WAS EXISTING IN THE WOMAN'S OVEREES ALREADY. AND IT'S REALLY NOT CLEAR WHAT THE EFFICIENCY OF THIS PROCESS IS BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS HOW MANY TRANSPLANTS HAVE BEEN PERFORMED. ONE OF THE BIGGEST YOUR HONOR ABOUT OVARIAN TISSUE TRANSPLANTATION IS THE POTENTIAL TO TRANSPLANT BACK CANCER CELLS INTO A WOMAN'S BODY AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CANCER THAT WE WORRY ABOUT IS LOU KEIM YEAH, LIQUID TUMORS WHERE LOU KEIMIC CELLS COULD BE PRESENT WHEN THE OVARY IS REMOVED. THE OTHER GROUP THAT CONCERNS SUSPATIENTS WITH OVARIAN AND PATIENTS WITH BRCA MUTATIONS. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS AND WHILE IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN A MOUSE MODEL, IT HAS NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL YET IN A PRIMATE OR HUMAN. AND A ROAD MAP GRANT FUNDED BITE NIH WAS IN THIS AREA OF INVESTIGATION AND SO A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE LOOKING AT HOW OR WHETHER IT IS POSSIBLE AND MOVING THIS TECHNOLOGY FORWARD. BUT STILL MUCH WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE. RECENTLY, JOHN TILLY PUBLISHED A PAPER SUGGESTING THAT THERE ARE OVARIAN GERM CELLS WITHIN THE OVARIES AND POTENTIALLY THAT THESE GERM CELLS MAY ACTUALLY GROW BETTER IN CULTURE THAN REGULAR FOLLICLES. SO IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO ISOLATE THESE GERM CELLS AND GROW THEM AND THIS COULD REPRESENT OR BE A MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH IN THIS FIELD. SO, I HAVE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE FERTILITY PRESERVATION OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO FEMALES. HOWEVER, AND WHILE THEY HAVE IMPROVED, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THESE TECHNOLOGIES AT THIS POINT. THEY GENERALLY DELAY CANCER THERAPY FROM DAYS TO WEEKS. SOME OF THEM ARE VERY COSTLY. ALL OF THEM ESSENTIALLY INVOLVE SOME KIND OF INVASIVE PROCEDURES MANY ARE EXPERIMENTAL, AS I MENTIONED. THERE IS SIGNIFICANT ETHICAL QUESTIONS, PARTICULARLY IN APPLYING THESE PRESERVATION TECHNIQUES IN CHILDREN. AND THE REALITY IS THAT MOST OF THE PATIENTS WHO PURSUE FERTILITY PRESERVATION ARE OLDER, WEALTHIER AND HAVE EARLY STAGE DISEASE. BUT THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS REALLY, WHO SHOULD WE BE TARGETING FOR FERTILITY PRESERVATION? WHILE STUDIES SUGGEST THAT SOME CANCER TREATMENTS MAY BE MORE RISKY THAN OTHERS, OFTEN TREATMENT, THE REPRODUCTIVE EFFECTS ARE UNPREDICTABLE. SO WE NEED FIGURE OUT WHAT FACTORS DETERMINE THE DEGREE AND RANGE OF OVARIAN DYSFUNCTION IN THESE YOUNG PATIENTS. SO I CAN CONDUCT AN OBSERVATIONAL LONGITUDINAL STUDY OF OVARIAN RESERVE IN FEMALES 11-35 YEARS OF AGE WITH A NEW DIAGNOSIS OF CANCER WHO ARE PLANNING ON RECEIVING CHEMOTHERAPY. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE MEASURES OF OVARIAN RESERVE OVER THE COURSE OF TREATMENT. AND THESE ARE DATA FROM A 17-YEAR-OLD PATIENT WHO WAS PARTICIPATING IN THE STUDY WITH HODGKIN'S LYMPHOMA WHO RECEIVED ABVD. NOT A VERY TOXIC THERAPY. YOU CAN SEE THAT DIRECT MEASURES OF OVARIAN RESERVE LIKE ANTIMALIGN HORMONE AND ARREST DIAL, PLUMMET DURING TREATMENT AND INDIRECT MEASURES LIKE FOLLICLE STIMULATING HORMONE INCREASES IN RESPONSE TO THE FOLLICULAR DESTRUCTION OCCURRING WITH CANCER THERAPIES. WE ARE LOOKING FOR RECOVER IN OVARIAN RESERVE OVER TIME. WE HAVE FOUND A COUPLE OF TIMES. ONE THE PRE-TREATMENT OF LEVELS APPEAR TO BE IMPORTANT PREDICTORS OF WHAT HAPPENS DURING AND AFTER THERAPY. AND PATIENTS WHO START OUT WITH AMH LEVELS ABOVE TWO, GENERALLY HAVE A MUCH FASTER RECOVERY IN OVARIAN RESERVE COMPARED TO ONES WHO START OUT LESS THAN TWO. AND WE ALSO FOUND THAT THOSE PATIENTS WHO RECEIVEDAL CALADING AGING TREATMENT HAVE A SLOWER RECOVERY IN THEIR A MH LEVELS POST TREATMENT COMPARED TO THOSE WHO DID NOT RECEIVE ALKYLATERS. SURVIVORS HAVE ABNORMAL MEASURES OF RESERVE. SOCIETY LEVELS NEVER MAKE IT BACK UP TO THEIR PRETREATMENT BASELINE LEVELS. WE THEN BECAUSE WE HAVE ALSO BEEN FOLLOWING SURVIVORS REMOTE FROM THERAPY TO SEE HOW THEIR OVARIAN RESERVE LOOKS OVER TIME. AND SO, WE HAVE COMPARED OVARIAN RESERVE IN A GROUP OF CANCER SURVIVORS IN THEIR MID 20s AND TO SIMILAR AGE CONTROL PATIENTS AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT OVERALL, MEASURES OF OVARIAN RESERVE ARE IMPAIRED IN THIS POPULATION WITH ELEVATED LEVELS OF FOLLICLE STIMULATING HORMONE AND LOWER LEVELS OF ANTIMALIGN HORMONE AND FOLLICLE COUNTS. EVEN WHEN WE RESTRICT THE ANALYSIS TO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HAVING ONLY REGULAR MENSTRUAL CYCLES, NO CLINICAL EVIDENCE OF OVARIAN DYSFUNCTION, WE FIND THESE MEASURES OF RESERVE ARE STILL IMPAIRED. OVARIAN RESERVE DOES APPEAR TO DEPEND ON THE TREATMENT THAT WAS RECEIVED. SO INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE EXPOSED TO PELVIC RADIATION HAD IMPAIRED MEASURES OF OVARIAN RESERVE AND REDUCED UTERINE VOLUME OVERALL COMPARED TO THE CONTROL POPULATION. ANDAL CALADING AGENT EXPOSURE APPEARED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH A DEGREES OVARIAN RESERVE. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE ACCUMULATIVE ALKYLATING AGENT EXPOSURE BY COMING UP WITH THIS SCORE AND FOR EACH UNIT INCREASINGAL CALATER SCORE, AMH DROPPED AND FSH LEVELS INCREASED. IT APPEARS THAT MEASURES OF OVARIAN RESERVE REFLECT THE TOXICITY OF THESE AGENTS AND ULTIMATELY, THESE MEASURES MAY BE HELPFUL IN DEVELOPING NOVEL THERAPEUTICS THAT TO PROVIDE EQUALLY EFFECTIVE CANCER THERAPIES THAT MIGHT HAVE LESS OF A RISK, REPRODUCTIVE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. WHAT ARE THESE MEASURES TELLING US? I'M INTERESTED FIND OUT WHETHER THESE MEASURES REALLY GIVE US INFORMATION ABOUT WHETHER INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ABLE TO GET PREGNANT OR WHETHER THEY WILL GIVE US A LOOK OR HELP US PREDICT WHEN THESE PATIENTS WILL GO THROUGH MENOPAUSE AND WHAT THEIR REPRODUCTIVE WINDOW WILL LOOK LIKE. AND SO, I KNOW THIS IS DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPARE MEASURES OF OVARIAN RESERVE IN OUR POPULATION TO THE PATIENTS WHO ARE AGING NATURALLY CLOSE TO THE MENOPAUSAL TRANSITION AND WE HAVE BASICALLY FOUND THAT WHEN WE DIVIDE CANCER SURVIVORS INTO TWO GROUPS, A LOW-RISK GROUP A HIGH-RISK GROUP BASED ON PREVIOUS TREATMENT, WE FIND AMH LEVELS IN THAT HIGH-RISK GROUP IN THESE SURVIVORS WHO ARE STILL IN THEIR MID 20s, LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO NATURALLY AGING WOMEN WITHOUT A HISTORY OF CANS WHO ARE ARE IN THEIR EARLY 40s. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THESE 20-YEAR-OLDS HAVE THE REPRODUCTIVE FUNCTION OF A 40-YEAR-OLD? THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN FOLLOWING THESE PATIENTS OVER TIME FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS IN SOME CASES. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT SURVIVORS AND CONTROLS WHO HAVE HAD INTERCOURSE DURING THE COURSE OF THE STUDY AND ARE AT RISK FOR PREGNANCY, WE FIND PREGNANCY RATES AMONG THE TWO GROUPS ARE NOT DIFFERENT. THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT RESERVE AMONG THE SURVIVORS IT IS IMPAIRED IN THE SURVIVORS WHO CONCEDE CEIVED COMPARED TO THE CONTROLS WHO CONCEIVED. SOME OF THE SURVIVORS ACTUALLY NEEDED HELP THROUGH FERTILITY TREATMENTS TO CONCEIVE. SO WHILE THIS INFORMATION IS PRELIMINARY, I THINK IT DOES SUGGEST THAT OVARIAN RESERVE MEASURES MAY ACTUALLY REFLECT QUANTITY RATHER THAN EQUALITY IN THIS YOUNG COHORT OF SURVIVORS. ULTIMATELY, I THINK MEASURES OF OVARIAN RESERVE MAY BE MORE HELP ENVELOPE PREDICTING THE TIME TO MENOPAUSE IN THESE SURVIVORS GIVING US A LOOK AT THEIR REPRODUCTIVE WINDOW. WE HAVE SHOWN THAT AMS A GOOD PREDICTOR OF TIME TO MENOPAUSE IN LATE REPRODUCTIVE AGED WOMEN. AND CLEARLY, WE NEED A LOT MORE DATA IN ORDER TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO COME UP WITH A LESS INVASIVE TEST OF OVARIAN RESERVE WHERE WOMEN DID NOT HAVE TO COME TO THE OFFICE AND GET TRANSVAGINAL ULTRASOUNDS AND BLOOD LEVELS IN ORDER TO ASSESS THEIR OVARIAN RESERVE. SO I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TOM AT NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY, AND WE HAVE VALIDATED A AMH ASSAY IN A FINGER PRICK BLOT SPOT THAT PATIENTS CAN DO AT HOME AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT LEVELS OF AMH IN THE SERUM AND LEVELS IN THE DRIED BLOOD SPOT CORRELATE QUITE WELL IN THIS COHORT OF 106 REPREDICTIVE-AGED WOMEN. SO THING IS AN EXCITING AREA OF INVESTIGATION. SO, IN THE FUTURE, I THINK ULTIMATELY WE NEED TO DEVELOP LESSGON ADDIC TOXIC THERAPIES FOR CANCER AND HOPEFULLY THESE MEASURES WILL BE HELP NATURAL ALLOWING US TO DO THAT. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH BETTER ONESES FOR FERTILITY PRESERVATION MORE EFFECTIVE AND SAFE AND COST LES MONEY. AND ULTIMATELY, I THINK UNDERSTANDING THE REPRODUCTIVE WINDOW AND FERTILITY RATES AFTER CANCER OPTIONED BEFORE THERAPY AND COUNSELING THEM ABOUT FERTILITY AFTER TREATMENT IS FINISHED AND ALSO ABOUT THE USE OF CONTRACEPTION, WHICH IS CRITICAL IN THIS POPULATION. SO I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY FUNDING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE AGAIN. >> OKAY. >> SO, DID YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO GOT PREGNANT AND CORRELATE WHETHER THEIR AMH LEVELS WERE HIGHER PRETREATMENT OR IF THEY JUST HAD A LARGER REBOUND POST TREATMENT? THERE WAS ANY CORRELATION BETWEEN THOSE WHO ACHIEVED PREGNANCY AND BOTH THE REBOUNDING AFTER TREATMENT OF THE AMH -- >> SO, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE GRANTS ARE TYPICALLY ONLY FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE TWO COHORT STUDIES GOING. ONE FOR NEW DIAGNOSIS PATIENTS, AND ONE FOR SURVIVORS BECAUSE REALLY YOU WHAT NEED TO DO IS TAKE THESE WOMEN BEFORE TREATMENT AND FOLLOW THEM FOR 20 YEARS. BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. SO WE HAVE SHORT-TERM DATA ON THE ACUTE CHANGES. THOSE PEOPLE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO GET PREGNANT BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT FROM THEIR CANCER TREATMENT. THEN WE HAVE SURVIVORS WITH MORE STABLE MEASURES WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGES OVER TIME AND FIGURING OUT WHO IS GETTING PREGNANT AND WHO IS NOT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE'S PRETREATMENT VALUES IS THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU. THAT WAS OUTSTANDING. OKAY, SO, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE DR. ALICIA ARMSTRONG. SHE IS THE ASSOCIATE FELLOWSHIP DIRECTOR OF REPRODUCTIVE ENDOCRINOLOGY AND INFERTILITIY AND REPRODUCTIVE BIOLOGY MEDICINE BRANCH AT THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF CHILD HEALTH AND HUMAN DEVELOPMENT. SHE IS GOING TO GIVE A TALK ENTITLED, HEALTH DISPARITIES AND FEES EMERGING TECHNOLOGY IN REPRODUCTIVE MEDICINE. DR. ARMSTRONG. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. THE COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT ART, IVF IN TERMS OF REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES. I'M GOING TO START BY TALKING ABOUT THE EVIDENCE FOR DISPARITY IN HEALTH CARE IN GENERAL, TALK ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE ETIOLOGIES, LOOK AT THE RESEARCH IN DISPARITIES IN TERMS OF ACCESS, EXAMINE HEALTH LEDGEIVATION AND STRATEGIES FOR INCREASING ACCESS. SO THERE IS EVIDENCE FOR DISPARITY BY GENDER, RACE AND SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS AND A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION COMES FROM THE INSTITUTE OF MEDICINE STUDIES, WHICH I'M GOING TALK ABOUT A LITTLE LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION. WHETHER IT'S GENDER, RACE OR ECONOMICS. THE DISADVANTAGE RECEIVE DISPARATE TREATMENT AND ONE OF THE TRAGIC EXAMPLES OF THAT IS DURING KATRINA. AND 30% OF THE NEW ORLEANS RESIDENTS WERE LIVING IN POVERTY AND TENS OF THOUSANDS HAD NO TRANSPORTATION. SO THEIR ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE AND OTHER RESOURCES WERE NEEDED DURING THAT TRAGEDY WAS IMPACTED BY SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. SO THE INSTITUTE OF MEDICINE REPORT PROVIDES A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH ACCESS. AND THEY HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF DISEASE AREAS IN TERMS OF CLINICAL SERVICES, THERE WERE A RANGE OF CLINICAL SETTINGS IN TERMS OF URBAN AREAS, INPATIENT TREATMENT AND OUTPATIENT TREATMENT AND DISPARENTS WERE ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHER MORTALITIES AMONG MINORITIES. SO WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT PHYSICIAN BIASES AND STEREOTYPES MAY INFLUENCE THE CLINICAL ENCOUNTER? WELL, DR.S IN 2000 REPORT -- DOCTORS ARE MORE LIKE 3 ASCRIBE NEGATIVE RACIALLY STEREOTYPES THEIR MINORITY PATIENTS REGARDLESS OF EDUCATION, INCOME AND PERSONALITY CHARACTERISTICS. IN AN OLDIER STUDY, THE PHYSICIANS WERE MORE LIKELY TO MAKE NEGATIVE COMMENTS WHEN DISCUSSING MINORITY PATIENT CASES. SOME OF THE BARRIERS THEY FOUND IN THE INSTITUTE OF MEDICINE REPORT WERE THAT THERE WERE CULTURAL LINGUISTIC BARRIERS AND LACK EVER STABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH PRIMARY CARE PROVIDERS WAS A FACTOR AND THAT MANY MEMBERS OF GROUPS THAT ARE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED USE ACUTE-CARE FACILITIES LIKE THE EMERGENCY ROOM AS THEIR PRIMARY CARE PROVIDERS. THERE WERE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO LIMIT SERVICES AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN I TALK ABOUT INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR IVF, THAT MAY DISPROPORTIONATELY AND NEGATIVELY EFFECT MINORITIES. IT WAS ALSO FRAGMENTATION OF HEALTH CARE FINANCING AND DELIVERY. NOW MOVING ON TO TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE DISPARITIES AND INFERTILITY, THIS IS A 2000 PUBLICATION WHICH LOOKED AT AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN AND CAUCASIAN WOMEN. AND THERE WERE DISPARITIES BOTH IN THE CAUSES OF INFERTILITY AND DISPARITIES IN THE OUTCOMES. AND AFRICAN AMERICAN PATIENTS AS A GROUP HAD A MORE THAN 2 1/2 FOLD DECREASE ODDS OF PREGNANCY. MOST OF THE LARGER STUDIES IN THE LITERATURE COME FROM THE SOCIETY OF ASSISTED REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGY DATABASE. AND THEY HAVE VERY LARGE COHORTS. ALL OF THOSE STUDIES HAVE DEMONSTRATED A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION ANYWHERE FROM 25-38%, IN AFRICAN AMERICAN LIVE BIRTH RATES AFTER IVF WHEN COMPARED TO CAUCASIAN COHORTS. WE BECAME INTERESTED IN THE QUESTION OF, IF YOU INCREASE FEES CARE, DOES THE UTILIZATION OF IN INFERTILITY TREATMENT SPECIFICALLY IVF, DIFFER, AND DOT OUTCOMES CHANGE? AND BECAUSE AS DR. ALAN DECHERNEY MENTIONED, OUR IVF SERVICES ARE ACROSS THE STREET AT WALTER REED, AND BECAUSE PATIENTS ARE DOD BENEFICIARIES, THE CYCLE COSTS ARE LESS THAN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PAYING PHYSICIAN FEES AND OTHER ASPECTS OF THE CYCLE COSTS. SO THIS WAS A RETROSPECTIVE STUDY LOOKING AT CLOSE TO 3000 CYCLES OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD AND PATIENTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS ALSO UNIQUE ABOUT OUR SYSTEM IS PATIENTS SELF IDENTIFY THEIR RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUPS. AND WE HAVE A HIGH RATE OF HAVING THAT INFORMATION WHEREAS IN MANY OF THE SART TRIALS, AS MUCH AS THIRDY% OF THE TIMES, THEY DIDN'T HAVE IDENTIFICATION OF RACE OR ETHNICITY. -- 30% OF THE TIME -- MINORITIES ARE OVERREPRESENTED IN THE MILITARY POPULATION COMPARED TO THE U.S. POPULATION N AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN, WE FOUND THAT WHEN ACCESS TO IVF WAS INCREASED, UTILIZATION INCREASED. BUT THEIR OUTCOMES WERE WORSE. WE SAW DIFFERENT RESULTS IN THE HISPANIC POPULATION IN THAT THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN UTILIZATION AND THEY HAD SIMILAR OUTCOMES TO CAUCASIAN WOMEN. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE AT THE FIRST COLUMN, THIS IS THE RACIAL DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE USA OVERALL, THIS IS FOR IVF POPULATIONS AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, FOR INSTANCE, HISPANIC WOMEN, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE ABOUT 13% OF THE U.S. POPULATION, LESS THAN 6% OF WOMEN UNDERGOING IVF. AND IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE POPULATION, THEY ARE 9% BUT EVEN IN ENHANCED ACCESS TO CARE ENVIRONMENT THEY WERE ONLY 4% OF THE IVF PATIENTS WHEREAS AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN INCREASED TO 17% OF THE IVF PATIENTS WHEN ACCESS TO CARE WAS INCREASED. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE OUTCOMES, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SART DATA IN THAT AMONG AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN, THE SPONTANEOUS ABORTION RATE WAS HIGHER AND ALSO THE LIVE BIRTHRATE WAS HIGHER AND ALTHOUGH IT DIDN'T ACHIEVE STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANTS IN OUR GROUP AND THE SART STUDIES, WHICH HAD A LARGER COHORT, IT DID OR WAS STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT. AND IN A REPORT FROM REUTERS, BASED ON THIS ARTICLE, THEY CONCLUDED THAT AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO USE ASSISTED REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES ONCE YOU DECREASE THE ECONOMIC BARRIERS, HOWEVER, THEIR OUTCOMES WERE STILL WORSE. IN OUR PARTICULAR STUDY, WE HAD INFORMATION ABOUT FIBROIDS AND WE FOUND AN ASSOCIATION WITH THAT AND WE THINK AT LEAST SOME OF THE DIFFERENCE IN PREGNANCY OUTCOMES CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO FIBROIDS. SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO TALKING A LITTLE MORE ABOUT ETIOLOGIES IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT ARE BARRIERS TO ACCESSING REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, SPECIFICALLY IVF. AND THE BIGGEST FACTOR IS SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS IN TERMS OF INCOME. THIS IS VERY EXPENSIVE THERAPY. AND ALSO EDUCATION. THERE ARE ALSO CULTURAL ISSUES IN TERMS OF GENERAL MISTRUST OF THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AND RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ETHICAL ISSUE THAT IS MAY PREVENT PATIENTS FROM SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES. IN TERMS OF FEES CARE, RACE, IN SOME INSTANCES, MAY BE A SURROGATE FOR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS IN THAT SOME ETHNIC AND RACIAL GROUPS MAY BE OVERREPRESENTED IN ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED POPULATIONS. IN THIS PARTICULAR STUDY WHICH WAS LOOKING AT BREAST CANCER, IN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN, WHEN THEY RECEIVED THE SAME TREATMENT AND HAVE THE SAME PROGNOSTIC VARIABLES, THE OUTCOMES WERE SIMILAR. SO IN SOME STUD HIGHS CONTROL FOR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, THE DIFFERENCE IN RACIAL OUTCOMES GOES AWAY. IN OTHER STUDIES, THEY FOUND THAT DESPITE SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, THAT CERTAIN ETHNIC GROUPS OFTEN PRESENT WITH MORE ADVANCED DISEASE AND HAVE WORST OUTCOMES WHEN YOU CONTROL FOR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. MOVING ON TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ACCESS TO CARE IN TERMS OF INFERTILITY TREATMENT. IN THE NATIONAL SURVEY OF FAMILY GROWTH, ACCESS TO CARE WAS IMPACTED BY INCOME AND SPECIFICALLY WHERE INCOME WAS LESS THAN 150% OF POVERTY LEVEL, THOSE WOMEN WERE LIKELY TO -- LESS LIKELY TO ACCESS INFERTILITY SERVICES. IF THEY LESS THAN A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION, THEY WERE LESS LIKELY TO ACCESS SERVICES. CULTURAL BELIEFS CAN ALSO PLAY A ROLE, PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF IVF SERVICES. AND THIS WAS A STUDY WHERE THEY LOOKED AT ETHNICITY NEEDS AND DECISION-MAKING. THEY LOOKED AT DECISION-MAKING AMONG DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS AND LOOKED AT THINGS, HYSTERECTOMY, THEY LOOKED AT BELIEFS REGARDING PHYSIOLOGIC FUNCTIONS SUCH AS MENSTRUATION, USE OF CONTRACEPTION, NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THERAPIES. IN EVER CAN AMERICAN AND NON-HISPANIC WOMEN, EXPRESSED MOST DISTRUST OF PHYSICIANS, ALL THE GROUPS THOUGHT THAT DOCTORS DON'T TAKE ENOUGH TIME TO EXPLAIN ISSUES AND ALL THE GROUPS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD SEEK ADDITIONAL OPINIONS IF THEY COULD AFFORD IT. ALL THE ATTITUDES TOWARDS PHYSICIANS WERE NEGATIVE IN THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT GROUPS EXCEPT AMONG HISPANIC WOMEN. THERE WAS AN ASSOCIATION TOWARDS MENSTRUATION AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO USE CONTRACEPTIVE METHODS AND FAMILY SIZE. SO WOMEN THAT DID NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE ATTITUDE TOWARDS MENSTRUATION WERE MORE LIKELY TO USE MODERN METHODS AND THEY WERE MORE LIKE 3 HAVE SMALLER FAMILY CISE. I THINK THERE HAS POTENTIAL TO HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES. SO CURRENTLY, WITH THE MINIMUM BENEFITS PACKAGE HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED UNDER THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT. IF THERE IS A FEDERAL MANDATE WHICH INCLUDES ART, IVF, THIS WOULD MARKEDLY INCREASE IVF ACCESS. IN RECENT LITERATURE THAT IS LOOKED AT THE IMPACT OF INSURANCE ON ACCESSING REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, THREE TYPES OF INSURANCE WERE IDENTIFIED. UNIVERSAL INSURANCE COVERS ART. RESTRICTED WHERE SOME SPECIFIC TYPES OF INSURERS MUST COVER ART. AND OTHERS, WHERE INFERTILITY TREATMENT BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY IVF COVERED. AND THEY FOUND IN STATES THAT HAD MANDATED HEALTH CARE, THAT THERE ARE MANY MORE WOMEN WHO WILL UTILIZE IVF SERVICES. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT CAN BE ADOPTED TO INCREASE THE ACCESS OF ALL WOMEN TO REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES? WELL, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS INSURANCE STATUS. SO AGAIN, ECONOMICS. SO, IN THE IOM REPORT, IT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PREDICTOR OF THE QUALITY OF HEALTH CARE ACROSS ALL RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUPS. SO THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE EMPHASIS WILL NEED TO BE IN TERMS OF MAKING THIS PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY MORE ACCESSIBLE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO REACH GROUPS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO IVF AND OTHER REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES IN LOW NUMBERS, IS TO HAVE MULTICULTURAL OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND SCREENING PROGRAMS WHICH WILL EDUCATE PATIENTS ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND MULTILINGUAL OUTREACH PROGRAMS, WHICH WILL ALSO INCREASE THE ACCESS OF WOMEN WHO ARE NOT NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS. ALSO COLLABORATIONS WITH COMMUNITY AND LAY HEALTH EDUCATORS, CHURCHES, ADVANCED PRACTICE NURSES AND PELVIC HEALTH PROGRAMS. THE NIH GUIDELINES HAVE BEEN ADOPTED TO INCLUDE MINORITIES AND SOME POPULATIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PREVIOUSLY REPRESENTED IN CLINICAL STUDIES. SO STUDIES OF THIS NATURE IN TERMS OF ACCESS THAT ARE SPONSE OARED BY THE NIH, HOPEFULLY WILL INCLUDE REPRESENTATION FROM MANY DIVERSE POPULATIONS SO THAT THESE FINDINGS CAN BE APPLICABLE TO THE GENERAL POPULATION. SO I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION HERE ONE OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED IN TERMS OF THE AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR REPRODUCTIVE MEDICINE, WHICH IS AN INTERNATIONAL GROUP FOCUSED ON REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH. WE HAVE AN ASRM SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP IN HEALTH DISPARITIES. THE PURPOSE OF THIS GROUP IS TO IDENTIFY DISPARITIES OF ACCESS AND OUTCOMES AND TO IDENTIFY STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THESE DISPARITIES. THERE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE INSTITUTE OF MEDICINE REPORT WHICH MAKES SUGGESTIONS IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN TERMS OF POLICY CHANGES THAT WILL INCREASE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE WHICH OBVIOUSLY CAN BE APPLIED TO INCREASING ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES. AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS INCLUDE IMPROVING THE RESOURCES TO THE DHHS, INCREASING THE NUMBER OF REPRESENTATION OF HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS AND ALSO EXPANSION OF HEALTH CARE COVERAGE S TWO OF THE STRATEGIES CURRENTLY THAT DIRECTLY ADDRESS ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, ART, ARE PREDICTING THE EXISTING STATEMENT STATE MANDATES AND SUPPORTING ADDITIONAL MANDATES. FURTHER RESEARCH IS NEEDED FURTHER LOOKING AT ETHICAL ISSUES, CULTURAL ISSUES AND OTHER BARRIERS ELIMINATING DISPARITIES IN ACCESS AND THERE IS RECENTLY BEEN A NEW INSTITUTE, WHICH WILL FOCUS ON SOME OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH ASPECTS OF REACHING UNDERREPRESENTED POPULATION GROUPS, WHICH PERHAPS CAN SUPPORT SOME OF THE RESEARCH IN THIS AREA. AND SO, THAT ENDS MY COMMENTS. AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. [ APPLAUSE ] [ OFF MIC ] >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN RESIDENCY EDUCATION IS NOW CULTURAL COMPETENCE IS ONE OF THE CORE COMPETENCIES. SO, IT HAS TO BE TAUGHT. SO ALL RESIDENTS IN TRAINING GET SOME EXPOSE TOWER THAT. IT'S ALSO SORT OF INTERESTING WITH CERTAIN POPULATION THAT IS ARE LARGELY, FOR INSTANCE, CATHOLIC, THAT YOU WOULD THINK RELIGION EFFECTS, AS YOU SAW HERE, WE HAD HISPANIC WOMEN, EVEN WHEN YOU DECREASED THE CYCLE COST, DIDN'T ACCESS ART SERVICES AT THE SAME RATE. AND ACTUALLY, IF LOOK AT HOW CATHOLIC WOMEN ACCESS CONTRA ACCEPTION AND THERE ARE SOME RELIGIOUS AND ETHICAL OBJECTIONS TO THAT -- CONTRACEPTION -- IT'S COMPARABLE TO NON-CATHOLICS. SO IT'S MORE COMPLEX THAN A SPECIFIC RELIGION OR CULTURE BUT YOU'RE POINT IS WELL TAKEN IN THAT WE DO HAVE A OBLIGATION TO EDUCATE HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS ABOUT ISSUES OF CULTURAL COMPETENCE AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A REQUIREMENT IN RESIDENCY TRAINING CURRENTLY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GUSTAVO DONCEL, SCIENTIFIC DIRECTOR OF CONRAD, A U.S. PROGRAM FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING NEW TECHNOLOGIES IN HIV, AIDS, PREVENTION AND CONTRACEPTION AND HE IS ALSO A PROFESSOR OF OBSTETRICS AND GYNECOLOGY AT EASTERN VIRGINIA MEDICAL SCHOOL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. AND THANK YOU TAMARA AND THE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE FOR HAVING INVITED ME TO GIVE THIS TALK. IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOP NICK GENERAL AND A VERY TIMELY ONE IN THIS WEEK, IN PARTICULAR. I GUESS WE ARE GOING TO SWITCH FROM TRYING TO ENHANCE FERTILITY AND GO OR PREVENT PROBLEMS RELATED TO FERTILITY, TO THE IN THE LAST TWO TALKS, TRYING TO PREVENT PREGNANCY. OR ENABLE WOMEN TO PLAN THEIR FAMILIES. SO I'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW ON EFFORTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY TRYING TO DEVELOP MULTIPURPOSE PREVENTION TECHNOLOGIES THAT ENABLE WOMEN TO PLAN THEIR FAMILIES AND AT THE SAME TIME, BE PROTECTED AGAINST SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS. NOW TWO WORDS ABOUT THE PROGRAM. I WORK AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR THE LAST 22 YEARS, WE ARE ESTABLISHED AS A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE U.S. AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE EASTERN VIRGINIA MEDICAL SCHOOL. OUR SUBMISSION TO IMPROVE GLOBAL REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH BY PREVENTING TRANSMISSION OF HIV AIDS, OTHER SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS AND UNINTENDED PREGNANCIES. WE DO SO BY FOCUSING ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW, SAFE AND EFFECTIVE MICROBICIDES, THAT ARE TOPICAL AGENTS THAT PREVENT OR DESIGNED TO PREVENT STI, SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS. CONT SEPTEMBER AND I WAS MULTIPURPOSE PREVENTION TECHNOLOGIES. OUR FUNDING COMES OUR MAIN FUNDING COMES FROM USAID, THE BMGF, NIH IN PARTICULAR, NIAID AND NICHD, ANDING OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS CDC AND SMALLER FOUNDATIONS. THE MAIN FEATURES OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE FOCUSED ON DEVELOPMENT AND R&D. WE HAVE EXTENSIVE NETWORK OF COLLABORATORS AND PROVEN RECORD ON MOVING COMPOUNDS FROM BENCH TO CLINIC AND CONTRACEPTIVE ON STI OR HIV PREVENTION. MULTIPURPOSE PREVENTION TECHNOLOGIES IN SEXUAL AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH, THERE ARE PRODUCTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO ADDRESS MORE THAN ONE INDICATION IN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH AND THOSE ARE FAMILY PLANNING, EXAMPLES OF THEM ARE, FAMILY PLANNING, PREVENTION OF STs AND IMPROVEMENT OF MATERNALO-FETAL HEALTH. THE RATIONAL IS THAT BY COMBINING INDICATIONS IN ONE PRODUCT, WE WILL INCREASE USE, CONVENIENCE, ACCEPTANCE AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PRODUCT AND WHILE DECREASING THEIR COST, DEMAND ON RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. THE INDICATIONS EXAMPLES OF INDICATIONS OF THESE MPTs, MULTIPURPOSE PREVENTION TECHNOLOGIES ARE, CONCEPTION AND HIV, PREVENTION OF HIV AND OTHER STIs SUCH AS HERPES AND PAP LEEM VIRUS. PREVENTION OF TWO OR MORE -- PAPILLOMA -- TWO OR MORE STIs, HSV AND HPV, AND CONTRACEPTION AND OR STI WITH PREVENTION OF IMPROVEMENT OF MATERNAL FETAL HEALTH. THE STRATEGIES FOR PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT IN THESE AREAS ARE TO RESPOND TO THESE INDICATIONS ARE THE COMBINATION OF TWO OR MORE DRUGS WITH DIFFERENT MECHANISMS OF ACTION. ONE DRUG WITH DUAL ACTIVITY. THE COMBINATION OF DRUGS AND DEVICES, DEVICES ALONE, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE USE OF BIOLOGICS LIKE VACCINES AND ANTIBIOTICS AND PROBIOTICS. THE DOSAGE IN THE ADMINISTRATION FORMS ARE ESSENTIALLY SYSTEMIC AND TOPICAL. SYSTEMIC ARE ORAL FORMS LIKE PILLS, INJECTABLES AND IMPLANTABLES AND TOPICALS, AND WE HAVE BEEN CONCENTRATING MOSTLY ON TOPICAL APPLICATION, LOCAL APPLICATION. THE FORMS ARE GELS, CREAMS, TABLETS, FILMS AND RINGS. TODAY, I'M GOING CONCENTRATE ON CONTRACEPTION AND HIV BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS. AND WHY DID WE CHOOSE CONTRACEPTION AND HIV PREVENTION? THESE STATISTICS I THINK SPEAK BY THEMSELVES AND THIS IS REGARDING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LEAVING -- LIVING WITH HIV/AIDS CLONALLY AND WE HAVE -- GLOBALLY -- WE HAVE NUMBERS FROM THE U.N. AIDS RECORD IN 200010, 34 MILLION PEOPLE INFECTED. 2.7 MILLION NEW INFECTIONS IN THAT YEAR AND ABOUT TWO MILLION DEATHS ASSOCIATED THROUGH HIV INFECTION AND AIDS. THE HARDEST-HIT AREA BY FAR IS SUB SAHARAN AFRICA WITH 23 MILLION PEOPLE INFECTED. THE EPIDEMIC IS FEMININEIDES AND THERE ARE AREAS, 60% OF THE NEW INFECTIONS ARE IN WOMEN AND THERE ARE AREAS OF THIS PERCENTAGE UP TO 70% OF THE NEW INFECTIONS WE HAVE FIGURES HERE IF LATINAMERICAN SOUTHEAST ASIA. SEXUAL TRANSMISSION ACCOUNTS FOR 60-90% OF THE NEW INFECTIONS GLOBALLY. THE U.S., THIS IS CLEARLY MUCH LESS. GLOBALLY, THIS IS THE, WHAT WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE OUR EFFORTS ON. CONCERNING GLOBAL POPULATION NOW, THE SITUATION HAS GOTTEN BETTER. WE ARE 7 BILLION PEOPLE HEADING TOWARDS 9-10 BILLION. AND ALTHOUGH THE BIRTHRATE HAS DECREASED OVERALL, THE POPULATION IS GROWING FASTEST WHERE THE NEEDS IN THE REGIONS THAT HAVE THE GREATEST NEEDS. AND FOR INSTANCE THE 49 LEAST-DEVELOPED COUNTRIES WILL TRIPLE IN SIZE BY 2050. SEW GERMANY AND FRANCE WILL NOT HAVE THAT ISSUE AND PERHAPS THE U.S. WILL IS NOT THAT ISSUE EITHER, MANY COUNTRIES WILL SUFFER FROM OVERPOPULATION. IN MANY OF THESE COUNTRIES, WHERE POPULATION IS NOT PROPERLY UNDER CONTROL, THE AIDS PANDEMIC IS ALSO A MAJOR HEALTH ISSUE. AND THE AIDS PANDEMIC IS CLEARLY INTRICATELY INTERTWINED WITH OVERALL POPULATION, POVERTY, MALL NUTRITION AND GENDER AND INEQUALITY. THAT LEADS TO LACK OF HIGHLY-EFFECTIVE CONTRACEPTION BY ACCESS OR BY CHOICE. IT LEADS TO HALF OF THE PREGNANCIES WORLDWIDE UNINTENDED. IT LEADS TO ABOUT 40 MILLION ABORTIONS AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF UNSAFE ABORTIONS IN THOUSANDS OF MATERNAL DEATHS AND MILLIONS OF WOMEN WITH DISABILITIES. THIS IS VERY CLEAR THAT A WOMAN -- THAT IS EXPOSED TO UNWANTED PREGNANCY IS DOING SO BECAUSE OF UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE AND UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE ALSO LEADS TO STIs, IN PARTICULAR, HIV. SO THERE IS NO WOMAN WANTS TO BE INFECTED. AND THE SAME WOMEN AT TIMES, DON'T WANT TO HAVE OR BECOME PREGNANT. AND THEREFORE, THERE IS A NICHE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIPURPOSE PREVENTION TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL ADDRESS BOTH INDICATIONS. THERE ARE SOME EXISTING MPTs LIKE THE MALE FEMALE CONDOMS, BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, MOSTLY BEHAVIORAL, THE UPTAKE OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES IS NOT GREAT. SO UNDERDEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON DRUGS, DEVICES AND COMBINATIONS. THE MAIN PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT AND STRATEGIES RELY ON PHYSICAL BARRIERS LIKE CONDOMS, DIAPHRAMS AND CERVICAL CAPS AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THESE AREAS. TWO OR MORE DRUGS WITH DIFFERENT TARGETS AND MECHANISMS OF ACTION. THIS SEEMS TO BE THE MOST ADVANCED INNOVATION AT THIS MOMENT. AND THE EXAMPLES HERE ARE THE COMBINATION OF HIGHLY-POTENT CONTRACEPTIVE AND ANTIRETROVIRALS THAT ARE ON THE MARKET TO TREAT PEOPLE INFECTED WITH HIV AND IT'S IN CLINICAL TESTING AS A PREVENTIVE FOR HIV. SO THE COMBINATION OF THESE IN A RING, THE COMBINATION OF THESE IN MID 150, ANOTHER ARV IN DEVELOPMENT. THE COMBINATION OF THE P RING IN A CONTRACEPTIVE AND THE COMBINATION OF MIV150 AND ZINC ASITATE REPRESENTS A VERY GOOD PIPELINE IN THIS AREA AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE CONRAD AND THE POPULATION COUNCIL AND THE IPM, INTERNATIONAL PARTNERSHIPS FOR MICROBICIDES. ONE DRUG WITH DUAL ACTIVITY, THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THE PAST. THE FIRST DUAL PRODUCTION TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS TESTED FOR PREVENTION OF HIV WAS NONOXYNOEL 9. IT'S A SPERMICIDE ON THE MARKET. AT THAT POINT, IT IS IN-VITRO, IT SHOWED VERY GOOD ACTIVITY AGAINST HIV AND OTHER VIRUSES AND STI PATHOGENS. HOWEVER, WHEN IT WAS TESTED, CLINICALLY, IN A PHASE III TRIAL, FAILED TO PREDICT -- PROTECT WOMEN AND THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, WOMEN WHO USE IT VERY FREQUENTLY HAD ENHANCED OR INCREASE IN RISK OF HIV ACQUISITION. I'M GOING REFOREIT FOR A MOMENT -- REFER TO IT LATER AND EXPLAIN WHY THIS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED. THERE ARE A SLEW OF OTHER DRUGS WITH DUAL ACTIVITY AND THE LATEST ONE, 10 OVVEER IS ONE THAT SURPRISED US ALL BY SHOWING NOT ONLY HIV OR HIV ACTIVITY AND ANTIHSV ACTIVITY AND PROTECTED WOMEN FROM ACQUIRING HERPES. DRUG DEVICE COMBINATIONS IS ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IN THIS PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT INNOVATIVE PATHWAY FOR MULTIPURPOSE PREVENTION TECHNOLOGIES. WE ARE WORKING ON A COMBINATION OF SILCS, A DIAPHRAM WITH THE GEL AND FINALLY, BIOLOGICS, THE USE OF VACCINES AND ANTIBODY IN ENGINEERED BACTERIA. THERE IS NEW RECENTLY FUNDED PROGRAM, PROJECTS BY NIH IN THESE AREAS. SO, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU DEVELOP THIS PRODUCT THAT YOU BEAR IN MIND THAT HIV PENETRATES THROUGH WOMEN THROUGH THE CERVICAL VAGINAL MUCOSA. THAT'S A VAGINAL MUCOSA REPRESENTS A FORM IDABLE BARRIER FOR THE VIRUS. IF WE DISRUPT THAT BARRIER, WE ARE LIKELY TO DIMINISH THE DEFENSIVE, NATURAL AND INNATE DEFENSIVE CAPACITY OF THE MUCOSA. ASSOCIATED VIRUSES DO PENETRATE THROUGH THE EP THILLIUM, THE VAGINAL EP THILLIUM, BUT THEY DO SO WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY. HOWEVER, IF YOU HAD BREACH LIKE REPRESENTED IN THIS CARTOON, THEN THE ACCESS OF THOSE VARYIENCE TO THE TARGET SELLS IN THE EPITHELIUM IS MUCH EASIER. THE VIRUS USES A SUB-CLINICAL INFLAMMATORY REACTION IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE INITIAL FOUNDER POPULATION IN AND DISSEMINATE SYSTEMICALLY. IF YOU INDUCE INFLAMMATORY REACTION FOR THE VIRUS, THEN YOU ARE ENHANCING ITS POSSIBILITY TO DISSEMINATE. THIS IS SOME DATA FROM OUR LAB. MICROARRAY ANALYSIS, GENE EXPRESSION ANALYSIS OF HUMAN CERVICAL VAGINAL CELLS THAT HAVE BEEN INCUBATED WITH A SERIES OF CLASSICAL PRO-INFLAMMATORY COMPOUNDS, LIGANDS AND TNF ALPHA AND POWERFUL CYTOKINES. THIS IS THE COMPARISON WITH THE NONINFLAMMATORY CONTROLS. SO THERE IS NO MODULATION OF THE PRO-INFLAMMATORY GENES BY THE CONTROLS. GREAT UP REGULATION OF THESE GENES BY THE COMPASS AND IT IS ACTUALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM THE PRO-INFLAMMATORY COMPOUNDS. AS I SAID, CREATING INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE AND PROBABLY WHAT LED TO THE INCREASED TRANSMISSION. HERE IS DATA TAKING COX 2, I BELIEVE FAMILIAR TO ALL OF YOU, IT'S A KEY INFLAMMATORY ENZYME AND IT PRODUCES PROSPECT LANDINGS, SYNTHETIC PATHWAY ACROSS THE LANDINGS:; AND THIS IS 20 TIMES UP REGULATED BY MICROARRAY AND QPCR AND A NICE PICTURE OF CELLS LIGHTENING UP WHEN THEY ARE INCUBATED WITH THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TOLD US AND CERTAINLY INDICATED TO THE FIELD THAT SAFETY OF ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE DEVELOPING, BE THAT A CONTRACEPTIVE ALONE, VAGINAL PRODUCT TO TREAT MANY CAUSES, OR A PREVENTIVE HIV, YOU MUST HAVE IN MIND THE DAMAGE THAT YOU MIGHT DO TO THE MUCOSA. ESPECIALLY IF THAT PRODUCT IS TO BE USED IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS HIGH INCIDENCE AND PREVALENCE OF HIV. TWO NEW INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF CONTRACEPTION AND HIV ARE DEPICTED HERE. AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RING. THE ISSUE IS THAT AS I SAID, THE RING THAWER DEVELOPING CONTAIN 10 OVVEER AND -- WHY CHOOSE 10 OVVEER? IT'S THE ONLY MICROBICIDE WITH A PROOF OF CONCEPT IN ANIMALS AND HUMANS. AT THE VADA IS BEING RECK BLENDED FOR APPROVAL BY AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE FDA TO BE USED AS A PREVENTIVE DRUG IN HIV AND IN CERTAIN POPULATIONS OF PATIENTS. NOW LNG IS AN EXCELLENT CONTRACEPTIVE WITH EXCELLENT TRACK RECORD OF SAFETY AND EFFICACY. THE RING IS A CONCEPT GOING DEVELOPED AND THE FEES BUILT IS BEING DEVELOPED IN THE 80s BY THE W.H.O. WITH A CLINICAL TRIAL. WHY THE RING? THE RING IS A MAJOR ADVANTAGE BY PROVIDING CONTROLLED RELEASE OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD WITH A SINGLE APPLICATION. MANY PROBLEMS RELATED TO PILL TAKING IN THIS AREA IN THE AREA OF PREVENTATIVE HIV OR PREVENTION FOR STIs AND HIV IS COMPLIANCE. AND PROBABLY COMPLIANCE IN THE FUTURE WITH USE AND REGIMEN. SO, WE -- A RING WILL PROVIDE A CONTROLLED RELEASE, SINGLE APPLICATION. IT WILL PROVIDE BETTER PROTECTION, LOWER DRUG EXPOSURE, HIGHER SAFETY MARGINS AND DISCRETE USE AND LOWER COST. SO, JUST TO POINT AGAIN ABOUT TENOFIVIRE FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR. YOU SEEN THE GEL, AND THEY STUDIED THEM 50% PROTECTION AT 12 MONTHS AND THEN AT 30 MONTHS, A 39% OF PROTECTION WITH INTENT TO TREAT. IF YOU DO SUBGROUP ANALYSIS, THE PROTECTION INCREASES UP TO 54%. NOW, VERY INTERESTINGLY, TENOFOVIR, WHICH IS AGAIN AN ANTIRETROVIRAL, INTERFERES WITH THE HIV LIFE CYCLE ALSO PREVENTED ANY CHANCE OF PRIMARY INFECTION AND THIS TECHNOLOGY WITH DUAL PROTECTION IN ITSELF. THE RING THEN CONTAINS -- HERE THE CHALLENGE TO MATERIALIZE THIS INNOVATION WAS TO PUT TOGETHER TENOFOVIR, A HYDROPHILIC MOLECULE, WITH LNG, A STARED MOLECULE AND BOTH DON'T WANT TO GO TOGETHER. AND THE RINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET LIKE NUVA RING, THEY CONTAIN POLYMERS THAT DO NOT RELEASE TENOFOVIR. SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES OF PUT THESE TWO TOGETHER IN TWO SEGMENTS THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO CONTROL RELEASE OF BOTH DRUGS. AND WE SUCCEEDED TO DO SO IN THIS AS IN-VITRO RELEASE OF TENOFOVIR AND LNG CONSUBSTANTIALLY FOR 90 DAYS. ANOTHER POINT OF OUR TARGET PROFILE. IT HAD TO BE NOT LESS THAN THREE MONTHS. AND HERE THERE ARE TWO DOSES OF LNG BECAUSE WE WANTED TO CHECK BOTH. HERE IS DATA IN ANIMAL MODELS THAT INDICATE WE ACHIEVED THE TARGET CONCENTRATIONS IN TISSUES. FOR BOTH. THE IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT THIS IS VERY GOOD STEADY STATE RELEASE AND ACCUMULATION WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN IN HUMANS TO BE PROTECTIVE OF HIV INFECTION. SOWER FINALIZING SAFETY PKPN ANIMAL MODELS AND WITH THE CLINICAL PART, WITH THE FIRST IN CLASS STUDY WITH PKPD AND THOSE FINDING SLATED FOR NEXT YEAR IN THE GINGOF NEXT YEAR. SO IN SUMMARY, THERE IS URGENT NEED TO DEVELOP MPTs, TO PROVIDE WOMEN WITH SAFE, EFFECTIVE AND AFFORDABLE PRODUCTS OF ADDRESSING MULTIPLE NEEDS SUCH AS FAMILY PLANNING AND PREVENTION OF STIs IN PARTICULAR HIV. PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES TO IMPROVED PHYSICAL BARRIERS, DRUG-DEVICE COMBINATIONS, DRUG-DRUG COMBINATIONS AND DUAL-ACTIVITY COMPOUNDS AND BY LOGICS. CONRAD LEAD MPTs ARE THE TENOFOVIR AND LNG RELEASING RING AND NEW DIAPHRAM, THE SILCS DIAPHRAM IS A CARRIER FOR TENOFOVIR YELL THEY HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DISCUSS THIS INNOVATION -- GEL. THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES IS NOT WITHOUT CHALLENGES. IT REQUIRES BROADER MORE AMPLE TESTING SINCE YOU ARE ADDRESSING TWO INDICATIONS. IT REQUIRES CLEARLY WIDER EXPERTISE IN THE PRODUCT DEVELOPING GROUP. IT FACES UNCHARTED REGULATORY PATHWAYS. AND FOR THE TIME BEING IT FACES THE PROBLEM OF BEING UNDERFUNDED. THE IMPACT OF PROVIDING WOMEN WITH MULTIINDICATION PRODUCTS, IS THE SYNERGISTIC REDUCTION OF SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS AND UNPLANNED PREGNANCIES IN WOMEN FROM LOW-INCOME COUNTRIES WHERE THESE PROBLEMS HAVE THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE. I WANT TO FINISH WITH ACKNOWLEDGING THE COLLABORATORS IN THE PROGRAM. OUTSIDE OF THE PROGRAM, THE FUNDING AGENCIES, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. [ APPLAUSE ] YES, CLARISA? [ OFF MIC ] >> THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. SHE IS ASKING ABOUT PROGESTIN ONLY CONTRACEPTIVES HAULS A ISSUE OF BLEEDING, INTRAMENSTRUAL BLEEDING. AND SO, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO EXPLAIN ALL THE DETAILS BUT WE ARE USING VERY LOW DOSES, MICRODOSES, 20 MICOGRAMS PER DAY TYPE OF RELEASE. AND WE ALSO TESTING, PUSHING THE ENVELOPE AND GOING DOWN IN THAT DOSE WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO PREVENT FERTILIZATION WHILE LOCAL EFFECTS WITHOUT INHIBITING OVULATION GIVEN THE PLASMA LEVELS ARE VERY LOW. SO IT'S A BOLD, RISKY PROPOSITION BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PHASE I STUDY. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU DR. GUSTAVO DONCEL. OUR LAST SPEAKER AND TOPIC FOR TODAY IS DR. REGINE SITRUK-WARE, REPRODUCTIVE ENDOCRINOLOGIST AND A DISTINGUISHED SCIENTIST AT THE POPULATION COUNCIL. AND HER TALK IS ENTITLED, NEW TECHNOLOGIES IN CONTRACEPTION RESEARCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INVITATION. I'M VERY HONORED. ALSO THIS OTHER ASPECT OF REPRODUCTION AND CONTROL OF FERTILITY, AS GUSTAVO HAS DONE BEFORE ME, WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT IN SOME SOCIETIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE PREPARED TO PAY A LARGE PRICE TO GET A CHILD, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT VERY WELL, MANY SOCIETIES ARE NOT PREPARED TO ENDORSE THE COST OF CONTRACEPTION THAT MAY PREVENT LIVES. AND WOMEN ARE DYING OF REPEATED PREGNANCY OR OF UNSAFE ABORTION IN MANY COUNTRIES. SO I THINK IT'S URGENT AND IMPORTANT TO FIND METHODS THAT WILL ADDRESS THESE UNMET NEEDS. HAVE YOU SEEN I MODIFIED SLIGHTLY THE TITLE OF MY TALK ON EMERGING SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY FOR CONTRACEPTION, TO MATCH THE EMERGING SCIENCE IN FERTILITY SO, FOR THE FUTURE, AS I SAID, WE WANT TO WORK ON DIFFERENT BARRIERS AND SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS ARE WORKING ALSO IN THIS AREAS TO MEET THE UNMET NEEDS. AND THE TARGETS WHICH HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IS PEOPLE AND THEIR NEEDS. THEY WANT TO HAVE BIRTH SPACING AND WE NEED BETTER BIRTH SPACING THAT ONLY RELYING ON LACTATION AS IN SOME COUNTRIES. WE NEED MID-ACTING METHODS, YOU KNOW THAT LONG-ACTING METHODS ARE VERY EFFECTIVE AND SAFE. BUT THE NEEDS TO HELP PROVIDERS TO INSERT AN IUD OR IMPLANT, AND THE METHODS THAT ARE NOW BEING DEVELOPED, SEMI-LONG ACTING, VAGINAL RINGS AND I COME BACK ON THAT, OR INJECTABLES AND NEED HAVE USER CONTROL METHODDED THAT DO NOT REQUIRE THE TRAINING OF HEALTH PROVIDER AND IN FACT, IMPROVING ACCESS. SO, WHAT WE KNOW ALSO IS THAT MANY WOMEN PREFER TO HAVE METHOD THAT I USED PRIVATELY THAT NO ONE WOULD KNOW IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT THEY ARE USING AND WE HAVE STARTED WORKING ON TRANSDERMAL GELS AND IN THE INITIAL STUDIES THE WOMEN WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THIS CONCEPT AS NO ONE WOULD NOTICE THAT THEY HAD USED CONTRACEPTION. WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ADDRESS THE NEED OF ADOLESCENCE AND THE YOUNGER POPULATION. AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND METHOD THAT FOR WHICH THERE WILL BE COMPLIANT AND SOME OF THIS YOUNG POPULATION HAVE OCCASIONAL INTERCOURSE ONLIY AND WE WERE TRYING TO DEVELOP CONTRACEPTION ON DEMAND. THE DUAL PRO SECTION A MAJOR NEED AND DR. DORSAL ADDRESS TODAY VERY WELL. I WILL ADDRESS THE METHODS FOR MEN AS WE CAN FIND HERE A GENDER INIQUITY AS MEN ARE NOT REALLY TAKEN CARE OF IN THE FIELD OF CONTRACEPTION RESEARCH. SO, IN ORDER TO HAVE BETTER SEMILONG-ACTING METHOD AND USER CONTROL METHOD AS I SAID, THE CONTRACEPTIVE RINGS ARE A NEW FIELD OF RESEARCH AND THEY ARE MANY RINGS WHICH ARE BEING DEVELOPED BY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND ALSO RINGS ARE USED FOR DELIVERING OTHER TREATMENT THAT CONTRACEPTIVES IN WOMEN BECAUSE THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS METHOD OF DELIVERY IS THAT THE VAGINA ABSORBS VERY WELL SMALL MOLECULES AND YOU CAN GIVE MUCH LOWER DOSES BECAUSE OF INCREASED AVAILABILITY FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION IN THE VAGINA. SO, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A ONE-YEAR VAGINAL RING. SO YOU KNOW THE NEW RING ON THE MARKET IS ONE MONTH AND THE WOMAN NEEDS A PRESCRIPTION TO RENEW EVERY MONTH HER CONTRACEPTION. AND THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A RING THAT IS EFFECTIVE FOR THIRTEEN CYCLES AND THE WOMEN WOULDN'T NEED TO GET REPEATED PRESCRIPTIONS AND SHE WILL HAVE HER METHOD FOR ONE YEAR, HAS BEEN SEEN AS A BIG ADVANTAGE. AND THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY USAID AND BY NICHD AND THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION WHO SUPPORTED THE LARGE PHASE III TRIALS AFTER A LONG DEVELOPMENT OF THE NESTA RONE, WHICH WAS THE NEW CHEMICAL ENTITY IN THIS RING COMBINED WITH THIN ESTRADIOL. AND THIS RING IS USED ON 13 CYCLES BUT ON THE SAME BASIS AS NUVA RING, AS 3 WEEKS ON FOLLOWED BY ONE WEEK OFF AND DURING THAT WEEK OFF, WE USUALLY HAVE A WITHDRAWAL BLEED AND THE WOMEN HAD VERY SATISFACTORY BLEEDING PATTERN, VERY PREDICTABLE REGULAR BLEEDING PATTERN. AND ANOTHER RING WHICH IS ON THE MARKET IN LATIN AMERICA AND HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY THE COUNCIL IS NOW BEING STUDIED IN OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE LACTATION IS POPULAR. THE REASON IS THAT PROGESTERONE, THE NATURAL HORMONE, WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO BLOCK OVULATION IN WOMEN WHO ARE NOT BREAST FEEDING BUT WHEN WOMEN ARE BREAST FEEDING, THEY ARE STILL AT RISK OF HAVING A PREGNANCY BECAUSE OF THE FOLLICLE GROWING AFTER A FEW MONTHS AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT BREAST FEEDING MORE THAN SIX TIMES A DAY, PROGESTERONE WOULD ACT ON CONTINUOUS RELEASE FROM THE VAGINAL RING AND THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE, AS EFFECTIVE AS AN IDUD. AND THE FACT IT IS UZI CONTROLLED CAN BE USED FOR THREE MONTHS, RENEWED FOR FOUR TIMES FOR WOMEN WHO WILL BE BREAST FEEDING FOR ONE YEAR. IT IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT IN COUNTRIES WHERE BREAST FEEDING IS SO NECESSARY FOR THE INFANT AND IS NECESSARY FOR THE HEALTH OF THE WOMAN TO SPACE BIRTH AND OF THE INFANT TO GET BREAST FEEDING. WE HAVE ALSO CONSIDERED THIS MODE OF DELIVERY FOR PROGESTERONE RECEPTOR MODULATORS AND COMPOUNDS LIKE CDB2914 WHICH IS NOW NAMED -- ASITATE. SHOWN TO BE VERY WELL DELIVERED BY VAGINAL RING AND CAN BE CONTRACEPTION WITHOUT ESTROGEN AND THEREFORE, HAVE LES RISK WITHOUT ESTRADIOL. AND THIS MODE OF CONTRA ACCEPTION WOULD INDUCE AMEN ARIA WHICH IS ANOTHER ASPECT WOMEN MAY PREFER. I WOULDN'T OF COURSE SPEAK ABOUT THE DUAL-PROTECTION RING AS GUSTAVO HAS DONE IT VERY WELL. WE HAVE ALSO IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR ADDING HEALTH BENEFIT, OTHER MEDICAL BENEFITS TO THE CONTRACEPTIVE ACTION. AND THIS IS IN ORDER TO MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO USE CONTRACEPTION. AND THE DIFFERENT MOLECULES THAT HAVE BEEN STUDIED SO FAR WHERE WE IDENTIFIED HUGE POTENTIAL BENEFIT, IS THESE PROGESTERONE RECEPTOR MODULATOR, WHICH NOT ONLY HAS AN ANTIOV LATORY EFFECT BUT HAS NO STIM LA TOIREY EFFECT ON BREAST CELLS AS PROGESTERONE DOES. SO, IT'S A POTENTIAL ADVANTAGE FOR LONG-TERM USE OF CONTRACEPTION IF THE BREAST WOULD BE PROTECTED. BUT OF COURSE, THIS NEEDS LARGE STUDY TO BE DEMONSTRATED BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL BENEFIT THAT IS WORTH RESEARCHING. WE ALSO HAVE FOUND THAT NESTER OWN, VERY CLOSE TO PROGESTERONE, IS EVEN MORE ACTIVE THAN PROGESTERONE TO STIMULATE MILE IN REPAIR IN IN-VITRO AND IN-VIVO MODELS AND FOR WOMEN WHO HAVE MS AND NEED A CONTRACEPTION IN THE POSTPARTUM PHASE, THAT WOULD BE A REAL MEDICAL ADVANTAGE. WE FOUND ALSO IN COLLABORATION WITH ROBERTA IN L.A., THAT IT STIMULATES NEURO-REGENERATION. IT STIMULATES THE STEM CELLS OF THE HYPOCAMPAL CELLS AND THEREFORE IT WOULD PROTECT THE BRAIN AGAINST DEGENERATION AND FOR LONG-TERM CONTRACEPTION, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO STUDY THEIR EFFECT ON THE NEURONAL CELLS. IMMENSED METHODS TO BE USED PRIVATELY AND THE GEL. THE PATCH IS NOT REALLY INVISIBLE. IT IS REALLY VISIBLE. THE PATCH HAS BEEN USED BUT WAS VERY POPULAR BECAUSE IT'S A SEVEN-DAY PATCH. YOU HAVE TO THINK OF YOUR CONTRACEPTION ONLY ONCE A WEEK AND THERE ARE THREE OTHER TRANSDERMAL SYSTEMS IN DEVELOPMENT. STILL WITH ESTRADIOL BUT WITH OTHER PROGESTINS, SUCH AS LNG, WHICH ARE SLIGHTLY MOREAND ROWGENIC THAN THE ORTHOEFRA PATCH AND COUNTER ACT THE ESTRADIOL ACTION. ANOTHER PRODUCT WHICH IS ALSO DEVELOPED AT NICHD IS THE LEVEL OF LNG ONLY LOW DOSE PATCH AS THE PROGESTIN-OWN ONLY PILLS. HERE YOU HAVE A PATCH SO YOU DON'T NEED TO THINK EVERY DAY. YOU HAVE A STEADY STATE AND NO PROBLEM OF COMPLIANCE AND BETTER EFFICACY. THE PROGRAM WE HAVE DEVELOPED USING THE PROGESTIN NESTER OWN I JUST DESCRIBED BUT COMBINED WITH ESTRADIOL AND NOTETHINAL DIAL. THE FACT IT IS A ACTIVE ANTIAF LATORY AMOUNT, MEANS YOU DON'T NEED TO COMPLIMENT THE REACTION. AND ESTRODIAL IS JUST A BACKUP THERAPY AND SAFER THAN THIS. AND IT WAS CLEARLY SHOWN IN POSTMENOPAUSAL WOMEN THAT USING TRANSDERMAL ESTRADIOL RATHER THAN ORAL ESTRADIOL LEADS TO A VERY MUCH DECREASED RISK. SO THE CONCEPT WE DEVELOPED WAS TO USE TRANSDERMAL APPLICATION AND HERE YOU SEE THE SMALL DEVICE THAT THAT WILL DELIVER A PUMP THAT WILL DELIVER A DOSE FOR EVERY DAY USE. AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THE WOMAN TO KEEP IN HER BATHROOM AND THEN WHEN SHE LEAVES FOR THE WEEKEND, SHE MAY HAVE A LITTLE SACH A IN HER PURSE AND THAT IS HER SATURDAY, SUNDAY DOSING. AND THE OTHER SYSTEM WHICH IS ALSO FOR TRANSDERMAL SUES A METRO DOSE TRANSDERMAL SYSTEM. THAT AGAIN IS A VERY WELL MEASURED DELIVERY BY THIS LITTLE DEVICE THAT CONTAINS, IN FACT, IN THIS BODY OF THE DEVICE, THERE IS A SMALL CANISTER THAT CONTAINS A SOLUTION AND THE SOLUTION, OF COURSE, CONTAINING TWO STEROIDS, PRO GEST IN AND ESTROGEN, WOULD BE APPLIED ON THE IN AND DELIVER FILM WHICH IS INVISIBLE. AND THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN MADE BY SMALL COMPANY IN AUSTRALIA AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM TO DELIVER NESTER OWN, WHICH IS THE PROGEST IN THAT WE HAVE FOUND SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AND ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE OF AGENTS. WE NEED TO REACH 250 TO BLOCK OVPOLICE STATION WE SHOWED AFTER DOSING FOR FIVE DAYS WITH THIS DELIVERY SYSTEM -- OVULATION -- WE COULD REACH HIGHER AND STABLE. THE VAGINAL GEL WAS ANOTHER METHOD THAT WE TRIED TO DEVELOP FOR PRECOIDAL CONTRACEPTION ON DEMAND. AND THE INITIAL GOAL WAS TO USE THE VAGINAL GEL AND WE HAD THE VAGINAL GEL WHICH WAS MICROBICIDE. WE KNEW IT WAS WELL ABSORBED FROM THE VAGINA. WE KNOW FROM THE LITERATURE AND ALL THE INFORMATION ON CONTRACEPTION, LEVON GUEST REL, WHAT ARE THE DOSES TO BLOCK OVULATION AND THE GOAL WAS TO USE THE GEL BEFORE INTERCOURSE. WHEN IT WAS ADMINISTERED FROM THE VAGINIA ACCORDING TO THE DIAMETER OF THE TOL KEEL AT THE TIME THE WOMEN RECEIVED THE TREATMENT, EITHER VAGINAL IN THE GREEN BARS OR ORAL IN THE YELLOW GOLDEN BAR, YOU SEE EVEN IN MORE THAN 18 MILLIMETERS, VERY CLOSE TO OVULATION, A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF SUPPRESSION OF OVULATION. AND THIS DUE TO THE REATTENTION OF THE GEL ON THE VAGINAL WALLS WHICH WAS LONGER THAN THE PIQUE REACHED BY THE ORAL TABLETS AND EVEN HERE, WE USED HALF DOSE AS COMPARED TO THE ORAL TAP LETS. SO THIS IS A PROMISING METHOD AND WE ARE TRYING TO CONTINUE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS VECTOR. ANOTHER GROUP WE SHOULD CONSIDER EACH IF WE ARE HERE FOR THE WOMEN'S HEALTH, FOR THE SAKE OF WOMEN'S HEALTH, MEN SHOULD TAKE CONTRA ACCEPTION. MANY WOMEN CANNOT USE CONTRACEPTIVES AND WE NEED SOME SOME SITUATIONS, TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE POSSIBILITY. AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT THE INDUSTRY WITHDREW FROM THIS FIELD WITH THE BELIEF THAT MEN WILL NOT USE CONTRACEPTION, AUGUST THOUGH TWO LARGE SURVEYS INDICATED, MADE IT MORE THAN 9000 MEN IN FOUR CONTINENTS, THAT IN FACT 55% OF MEN TED IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA AND THEY WOULD BE READY TO USE IT IF IT WAS AVAILABLE. THERE WERE -- THEY WERE ALSO FAVORING DIFFERENT METHOD, A PILL WOULD BE THE FIRST BUT IMPLANTS WERE ALSO MENTIONED AND WE HAVE DEVELOPED FURTHER IMPLANTS THAT DELIVER MENT -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] WHICH IS A TISSUE SELECTIVE ANDROGEN WITH NO EFFECT ON PRO STATE. AND THIS IS THE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH INJECTION -- PROSTATE -- AND INVESTIGATE LONG-TERM SOME QUESTION OPEN ABOUT THE ROLE OF ANDROGEN ON THE PROSTATE, THE FACT THAT THIS COMPOUND DOES NOT CONVERT INTO DEHYDROTESTOSTERONE, IT IS AN ADVANTAGE FOR PROSTATE. SO FAR, WE DEMONSTRATED 85% EFFICACY ON SPERM SUPPRESSION BUT IT SEEMS THAT WE NEED TO COMBINE THE ANDROGEN WITH PROGESTIN FOR INCREASING THIS EFFICACY RATE. NOW, VERY BRIEFLY, THERE ARE NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND NEW NONHORMONAL TARGETS FOR CONTRACEPTION AND FOR MALE AND FEMALE CONTRACEPTION. AND WORK IS BEING DONE TO LIMIT THE MOTILITIY OF THE SPERM, PREVENT THE ACTIVITY OF THE SPERM AND THE ENTRY INTO THE ZONA PELIS TA OF THE OV UM. THIS IS LINKED TO THE PAST DECADE WORK AND WHAT IS CALLED THE "OHMIC" REVOLUTION IN GENEMIC AND APPROPRIATE OHMIC T DEALS WITH GENES SPECIFIC IN THE REPRODUCTIVE TARGETS -- PROTEOMICS AND -- AND COFACTORS THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE SPERM OR TO THE OV UM THAT COULD BE TARGETED BY SMALL MOLECULES, SMALL DRUGS THAT WOULD OPPOSE THEIR ACTION AND THIS WOULD LEAD TO NON-HORMONAL METHOD OF COPT ACCEPTION WITHOUT INTERFERENCE WITH THE HORMONES CYCLE -- CONTRACEPTION -- OR THE HORMONAL SECRETION IN MEN. SEVERAL PROMISING LEADS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR MEN BUT THEY ARE THE STAGE OF THE VERY EARLY PRECLINICAL WORK BUT IN ALL OF THE MODELS, IT HAS BEEN SHOWN THAT THESE ANTAGONISTS CAN PREVENT SPERM MATURATION OR ACTIVATION OR MOTILITY. AND IN WOMEN, THERE ARE SOME OTHER TARGETS, I JUST MENTIONED THIS ONE FROMMORGON, OUR COLLEAGUES WHO WORK ON THE CUMULUS OOCYTE EXPANSION WHICH LEADS TO THE FOLLICLE RUPTURE. THEY IDENTIFIED PROSTAGLANDIN E2 INDUCED IN THIS PHENOMENON AND THEY WORKED WITH ANTAGONISTS BLOCK THE RECEPTOR OF PGE2 TO BLOCK THIS OOCYTE EXPANSION. AND OTHER INHIBITORS AND INHIBITORS OF MMP CAN BLOCK THE FOLLICLE RUPTURE AND MAINTAIN A LAWSUIT NEEDS FOLLICLE WITH PRO GEST RIN SECRETION AND NORMAL ENVIRONMENTS. AS YOU KNOW, THE NICHD UNDERTAKEN LAST YEAR A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS AND THE GOAL WAS THE VISION FOR THE NEXT DECADE AND THE SCIENTIFIC OPPORTUNITIES IN VARIOUS AREAS SUPPORTED BY NICHD, INCLUDING REPRODUCTION, AND IN THESE SUBSECTION ON CONTRA ACCEPTION RESEARCH, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR OPPORTUNITIES AND NEED WAS TO UNDERSTAND THE RISK FACTORS FOR UNINTENDED PREGNANCY. AND OF COURSE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHY THE WOMEN WOULD NOT TAKE THE CONTRACEPTION AND WOULD NOT HAVE BEHAVIOR THAT LEADS TO NONCOMPLIANCE. AND IMPROVE EXISTING CONTRACEPTIVE METHODS AND STILL CONTINUE TO RESEARCH AND DEVELOP NEW METHODS WITH ADDED BENEFITS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE SPONSORS AND DO NORS WHO SUPPORTED THE WORK OF THE CONSOLATION OVER THE YEARS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. [ APPLAUSE ] QUESTIONS? YES? [ OFF MIC ] >> COULD BE USED AFTER INTERCOURSE. WHEN WE DEVELOPED IT WITH A MICROBICIDE TO PREVENT TRANSMISSION OF HIV, WE SAID WE BETTER ADMINISTER IT BEFORE. NOW OF COURSE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE MICROBICIDE, WE DON'T NEED. WE CAN HAVE IT JUST FOR THE THE HORMONE TO BLOCK AND POSTPONE OVULATION, ANY TIME AROUND THE OVULATION. >> [ OFF MIC ] >> AND I THINK SOME ANTIRETROVIRAL AGENT MAY BE ACTIVE AFTER THE INTERCOURSE AND MAYBE TWO OR THREE DAYS. THE PROBLEM IS REAL TOW DETERMINE WHEN THEY WILL BE ACTIVE AND HAVE THIS POSSIBILITY OF BEFORE OR AFTER. THANK YOU. >> [ OFF MIC ] >> THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY. WE NEED A REVERSIBLE METHOD FOR MEN AND IN THE HORMONAL CONTRACEPTION, ALL THE STUD THESE HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED SHOW COMPLETE RETURN TO FERTILITY. AND THAT IS REALLY CLEAR. WE DO NOT KNOW YET WITH THE NEW NONHORMONAL METHOD AND THAT IS WHY IT'S FAR AWAY IN THE HORIZON WE WOULD HAVE SUCH METHODS. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> SO I WANT TO THANK OUR AMAZING SPEAKERS. REALLY FANTASTIC TOPICS. I THINK THE AUDIENCE JOINS ME IN OUR IMPRESSION OF THIS INCREDIBLE SCIENCE, FOCUSED ON REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES. NATIONAL WOMEN'S HEALTH WEEK GIVES US ONE WEEK TO REALLY FOCUS ON WOMEN'S HEALTH. BUT THAT IS NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS WEEK SOME AREAS THAT ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO WOMEN, REPRODUCTIVE ISSUES. WE HEARD ABOUT ONCOFERTILITY, MULTIPURPOSE TECHNOLOGIES, WE HEARD ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR ANTIHIV AND ANTIRETROVIRAL TREATMENTS BEFORE AND AFTER, WE HEARD ABOUT CHALLENGING ETHICAL ISSUES AND RELATED TO ASSISTIVE REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGY SPEC THIS NEW GENERATION THAT HAS DIFFERENT ATTITUDES ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED IN THE PAST. AND THEN WE HEARD ABOUT CHALLENGES RELATED TO DISPARITIES AND REPRODUCTIVE TECHNOLOGIES AND ASSISTED REPRODUCTION. SO I THINK WE HEARD FROM MANY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND I WANT TO AGAIN THANK OUR SPEAKERS AND THE ORGANIZERS FOR THIS INCREDIBLY EXCITING CONFERENCE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN ANKING OUR SPEAKERS ONCE AGAIN. [ APPLAUSE ]