>> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. IT'S MY GREAT PRESSURE TO INTRODUCE OUR SPEAKER JAIDEEP BAINS THAT COMES FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY. JAIDEEP GOT HIS PH.D. AT QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY IN KINGSTON, ONTARIO WHERE HE FIRST STARTED WORKING ON HIG HYPO THALAMIC -- THEN HE MOVED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER TO DO A POST DOC WHERE HE WAS IN THE HIPPO CAMPO NETWORK AND DID SOME CIRCUITRY WORK AND REALLY SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON -- THEN HE MOVED IN 2002 TO CALGARY WHERE HE REMAINS TODAY AND HE'S MOVED BACK TO I THINK HIS FIRST LOVE PRIMARILY THE HYPO THALAMIC PUT [INDISCERNIBLE] PAPUT -- PITUITARY. HE'S REALLY MADE CONSIDERABLE INSIGHT INTO A NUMBER OF REALLY GREAT THOUGHT PROVOKING STEETS THAT HAVE -- STUDIES THAT HAVE RAMIFICATIONS ON THE NERVOUS SYSTEM FUNCTION. HE'S GOING TO PRESENT TOTAL ENTITLED SNAP DISCUS SYNAPSES AND STRESS. >> SNAP AND STRESS. CHRIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE VERY KIND INTRODUCTION AND THE INVITATION TO SPEAK TODAY ONE OF THE REASONS I LEFT THE HIPPO CAMPUS IS THAT HAVING DIPPED MY TOE IN I WAS WORRIED SOMETHING WAS BOEING TO BITE IT OFF. -- WAS GOING TO BITE IT OFF. WHAT WE TRY TO DO IN MY LAB IS REALLY FOCUS ON TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE HYPOTHALAMUS FROM IS INSIGHT OUT. A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR DECADES HAVE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THE HYPOTHALAMUS. HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THE ALL-NOMIC OUTPUT OF THE HYPOTHALAMUS, THE ENDOCRINE OUT PUT OF THE HYPOTHALAMUS, THE ROLE THE HYPOTHALAMUS PLAYS IN A LOT OF INNATE BEHAVIORS BUT ONE THING THEY HAVEN'T DONE IS THOUGHT VERY MUCH ABOUT THE SYNAPSES AND THE NEURO CIRCUITS THAT CODES ALL THIS INFORMATION AND DRIVES THESE INNATE BEHAVIORS. THIS IS WHERE MY LAB HAS COME IN. TO REALLY PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON THE SYNAPSES AND THE HYPOTHALAMUS AND THINK ABOUT HOW THESE SYNAPSES BEHAVE UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS. HOW THESE SYNAPSES BEHAVE WHEN THEY'RE CHALLENGED AND WHAT THIS MIGHT MEAN FOR THE ORGANISMS. SO THE WORK I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY WAS DONE BY TWO GRADUATE STUDENTS IN MY LAB, ONE OF THEM IS SARA HEWITT WHO FINISHED A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND THE OTHER IS JACQULIN WANSTEEKER IS STILL A STUDENT IN MY LAB. I'LL START WITH THE WORK SARA ABOUT WITH HER PH.D. AND CLOSE WITH JACKIE'S WORK WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNPUBLISHED. SO THE HYPOTHALAMUS IS THE PRIMARY INTERFACE BETWEEN THE BRAIN AND IMPORTANT INTERFACE BETWEEN THE BRAIN AND THE BODY THAT CONTROLS HOMEOSTASIS. AS ALL OF YOU KNOW HOME STASIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT REGULATES THE INTERNAL ENVIRONMENTS THAT MAINTAINS STABILITY AND CONSTANCY. SO THE HYPOTHALAMUS SITS AT THIS INTERFACE AND IF WE TAKE A CROSS-SECTION OF THE BRAIN, IT SITS RIGHT AT THE BASE OF THE WRAIN AND SENDS PROJECTIONS TO AUTONOMIC NUCLEI AS WELL AS TO THE PITUITARY. IN THE RAT BRAIN, IN THE RAT BRAIN, THIS IS A SECTION OF THE RAT BRAIN SHOWING THE LOCATION OF A NUMBER OF NUCLEI IN THE HYPOTHALAMUS. SO IT'S ONE DIFFUSELY CONNECTED STRUCTURE THAT HAS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS. AND SOME OF THOSE ARE JUST HIGHLIGHTED HERE INCLUDING MOST FUNCTION THAT ARE CRITICAL FOR SURVIVAL, CIRCADIAN RHYTHMS, ENERGY BALANCE, AS YOU MOW REGULATION -- OS MOW REGULATION, SEXUAL FUNCTION. THE THING MY LAB IS INTERESTED IN IS THE RESPONSE TO STRESS. THESE ARE ESSENTIAL FOR SURVIVAL SO THEY MUST BE HARD WIRE, THE ABILITY TO RESPOND EXPEAN GAUGE. THESE BEHAVIORS ARE HARD WIRED. BUT INNATE BEHAVIORS HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES. SO AN ORGANISM EXISTS IN A VERY DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT. THE CHALLENGES THAT IT PHASES ARE UNPREDICTABLE SO THERE'S GOT TO BE MECHANISMS THAT ARE BUILT IN TO ALLOW THESE HONEY EIGHT BEHAVIORS -- INNATE BEHAVIORS TO WORK PROPERLY EVEN THOUGH THE BASELINE IS CHANGING ALL THE TIME. SO SURVIVAL REQUIRES THAT THE ORGANISM CONTINUE TO ADAPT. AND THESE ADAPTATIONS REQUIRE SOME FORM OF LEARNING AND MEMORY. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE FACED WITH ONE CHALLENGE AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RESPOND APPROPRIATELY TO THAT CHALLENGE, IT WILL PROBABLY BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD USE THOSE SAME MECHANISMS THE NEXT TIME AROUND. SO WE THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME LEARNING AND MEMORY IN THIS SYSTEM. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF EXPERIMENTS THAT HAVE GONE ON THAT HAVE SHOWED THAT THESE SYSTEMS ARE CAPABLE OF RESPONDING EFFECTIVELY TO CHALLENGES AND THEN ADAPTING TO SUBSEQUENT CHALLENGES. SO LEARNING IN MEMORY FROM A SYNAPTIC POINT ARE ENCODED IN A COUPLE WAYS. ONE FORM THEY CAN TAKE ARE IMMEDIATE OR EXPERIENCE MODIFICATIONS IN SYNAPSES ACTIVITY AND CIRCUITS. AND THAT'S HOW WE CLASSALLY PLASTICITY AND THE SECOND IS LATENT EXPERIENCE DEPENDENT MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE ONLY EVIDENCE UPON SUBSEQUENT RECRUITMENT OF SYSTEM OR METAPLASTICITY. THE BEHAVIOR CHALLENGE HAS DONE SOMETHING TO THE SYSTEM BUT WHEN YOU PROBE THE SYSTEM USING PHYSIOLOGICAL MEANS LIKE WE DO, THE SYSTEM DOESN'T REALLY SEEM VERY DIFFERENT. IT'S ONLY WHEN YOU THEN AGAIN CHALLENGE IT WITH SOME SORT OF PARADIGM THAT YOU NOTICE THAT THESE SYNAPSES STORE INFORMATION A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO THE NUCLEUS WE'LL FOCUS ON FOR ALL THIS TALK IS PARAVENTRICULAR NUCLEUS. IT'S A BILATERAL STRUCTURE THAT SITS AROUND THE THIRD VENTRICLE. AND THESE PBN NEURONS RECEIVE SIGNALS FOR ALL SORTS OF STRESSFUL CHALLENGES, INCLUDING PHYSICAL THREATS, INFLAMMATION, BLOOD LOSS, HUNGER AS WELL AS PERCEIVED OR PSYCHOLOGICAL THREATS. FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETHING THAT CHALLENGES AN ORGANISM'S SURVIVAL. ALL OF THESE SYNAPSES CONVERGE ON TO THE NEURONS AND THE PBN ON THE -- SECRETORY CELLS THAT SIT IN THE MEDIAL ASPECT OF THE PBN AROUND THE VENTRICLES. THESE CELLS MAKE A NUMBER OF NEUROPEPTIDES INCLUDING -- RELEASING HORMONES -- STATIN AND CORTICO APPROPRIATEN RELEASING HORMONES WHICH IS THE KEY INITIATOR OF THE -- AXIS. I JUST SHOW YOU THIS VERY QUICKLY. THIS IS A SCENE FOR C FAUST FOLLOWING 30 MINUTES OF STRESS. AND YOU CAN SEE LARGE MAJORITY OF CELLS IN THE PVN SEEMS TO LIGHT UP. THERE IS THIS KIND OF BROAD ACTIVATION OF THIS NUCLEUS IN RESPONSE TO A VERY BRIEF 30 MINUTE RESTRAINED STRESS. SO THIS RESTRAINT STRESS OR AN IMMEDIATE THREAT LAUNCHES AN IMMEDIATE INCREASE IN CIVIL THETIC ACTIVITY -- SYMPATHETIC ACTIVITY WHAT WE ARE AWARE OF A FLIGHT OR FIGHT RESPONSE BUT IT RELEASES HORMONES. CRH IS RELEASED AND FROM THERE IT'S TAKEN INTO THE CIRCULATION TO THE ANTERIOR PITUITARY CAUSING THE RELEASE OF ACTH WHICH CIRCULATES IN THE BODY AND CAUSES THE RELEASE OF CORTICOSTEROIDS. OKAY. SO WHEN WE GOT INTO THIS, THERE WERE A FEW OBSERVATIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUS LUCT IN THE LITERATURE, AND I THOUGHT -- PREVALENT IN THE LITERATURE AND I THOUGHT I WOULD SUMMARIZE BEFORE I GET INTO THE MEAT OF THE TALK. STRESS INCREASES NEURO ACTIVITY IN PVN AND COUPLED IN INCREASING CORTICOSTEROIDS. THESE CORTICOSTEROIDS, THEY TERMINATE THE NEUROENDOCRINE RESPONSE TO STRESS. THE THIRD THING WE KNEW IS THAT REPETITIVE RECRUITMENT OF THE STRESS ACCESS MUD FIES THE OUTPUT AT THE AXIS. THE MORE YOU RECRUIT IT, IT DOESN'T BEHAVE THE SAME WAY FOR EVERY SUBSEQUENT RECRUITMENT. SO EVERY KIND OF STRESS GENERATES A STEREOTYPED HORMONE RESPONSE. I'LL JUST BREAK DOWN THE TIME FRAME KINETICS OF THE HORMONE RESPONSE. SO THIS IS A CRH NEURON. WHEN THE NEURON FIRES IT RELEASES HORMONE INTO THE VESSELS OF THE -- AND THIS HORMONE IS CRH SOMETIMES ALSO VASO PRES PRESTON -- THIS TRIGGERS THE RELEASE OF -- INTO BLOOD WHICH CIRCULATES IT INTO THE PITUITARY AND HITS THE ADRENAL CORTEX THAT CAUSE THE RELEASE OF CORTICOSTEROIDS INTO PLASMA. AND THEN OVER TIME CORTICOSTEROIDS CIRCULATE AND THE CORTICO STEROID CONCENTRATION IN THE BRAIN ALSO STARTS TO BUILD BUT YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S MANY MINUTES AFTER THE INITIAL INDUCTION OF THE STRESS RESPONSE. AND THESE CORTICOSTEROIDS ARE THOUGHT AND HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO FEEDBACK AND ALTER THE MACHINERY IN THESE CRH NEURONS. SO THIS PLAYS ANOTHER WHAT WE THINK IS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE AND THAT IS THAT CORTICOSTEROIDS ENCODE A FORM OF MEMORY IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY CHANGE THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS TO SUBSEQUENT STRESSES. SO I'M JUST GOING TO DESCRIBE AN EXPERIMENT THAT WAS DONE BY WISEALL LAST YEAR. THEY INFUSE THE CORTICOSTEROIDS INTO THE PVN PRIOR TO AND DURING 15 MINUTES OF STRAINED STRESS. WHEN YOU INFUSE -- IT GIVES YOU A LARGE INCREASE IN THE RELEASE OF THIS HORMONE, HCTH. IF CORTISONE BOARD IN THE PVN IT COMPLETELY BLUNTS THIS RESPONSE TO STRESS. THIS HAS A PROFOUND ABILITY TO MODIFY RESPONSES TO STRESS. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT YOU WOULD THINK OF A NEGATIVE FEEDBACK BREAK IN A SYSTEM ONCE IT'S LAUNCH, IT PREVENTING THE LAUNCH OF THE SYSTEM IN THE IF YOU ARE PLACE. THEY PROPOSE THAT STRESS OR CORED CO-STEROIDS IMPOSE THIS REFRACTORY PERIOD ON THE SYSTEM SO THAT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING A SINGLE STRESS THE SYSTEM IS NOT VERY RESPONSIVE TO SUBSEQUENT STRESSES. SO BASED ON THESE DATA I THINK WE CAN MODIFY A COUPLE OF THESE STATEMENTS. SO RATHER THAN THINK IT TERMINATES THE RESPONSE IT MUD FIES THE END KROIN RESPONSE AND MODIFIES THE RESPONSE TO SUBSEQUENT STRESS. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT TODAY IS ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW WE THINK THIS MIGHT HAPPEN AT THE SYNAPTIC LEVEL. WHEN WE BEGAN THIS WORK WE TRIED TO DISTILL THE QUESTIONS DOWN INTO VERY SIMPLE QUESTIONS. THE TWO QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO ANSWER TODAY WHICH WERE UNANSWERED WHEN WE GOT INTO THIS IS WHAT TURNS THE HPA, THE HYPOTHALAMUS PITUITARY ADRENAL AXIS ON AND HOW DOES THIS HPA ADAPT. OKAY. SO THERE ARE TWO FACTORS THAT DETERMINE THE ACTIVITY OF THESE NEURONS. THE FIRST IS INPUT FROM ACCURATE SYNAPSES AND THE SECOND ARE THE CIRCULATING LEVELS OF CORT. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK LOOKING AT AND DEFINING CARE EMPLO --CAREFULLY DESCRIBING THE INPUTS. THE INPUTS ORIGINATE FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BRAIN STRUCTURES, INCLUDING THE BRAIN STEM, THE NUCLEUS -- THE C1, A1 ENERGETIC CELL GROUPS AS WELL AS OTHER OTHER HYPO THALAMIC STRUCTURES AND LIKE THE MEDIUM PREOP -- OPTIC. OF THESE INPUTS ARE GABA LARGIC. THEY MAKE UP THE SYNAPSES ON THE ENDOCRINE CELL. THIS IS DIFFERENT ACCORDING TO THIS PAPER. THEY CLASSIFY THE -- NEURONS HAVING ABOUT TWO AND-A-HALF, 3% OF THEIR SYNAPSES. IN OUR CASE 50% OF THE SYNAPSES ARE GABA ENERGETIC. THAT MEANS IT HAS A PROFOUND DAMPENING EFFECT ON THE SYSTEM. SO WE BASICALLY STARTED WITH THIS STATEMENT. SO GIVEN THAT SYNAPTIC INHIBITION ACTIVELY RESTRAINS HP OUTPUT IT'S BEEN PROPOSED THAT RELEASE FROM INHIBITION IS NECESSARY FOR THE INITIATION OF THE NEUROENDOCRINE RESPONSE TO STRESS. SO THIS MAKES SENSE WHEN HALF OF YOUR SYNAPSES ARE INHIBITORY YOU REMOVE THE INHIBITION, YOU CAN LAUNCH THIS SYSTEM VERY QUICKLY. WE WANTED TO TAKE A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK AT THIS AND ASK WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE LEVEL OF GABA SNAP SUGGESTS. SO WE DID -- SYNAPSES. WE DID IN VIVO EXPERIENCES WHICH WE INJECTED DIRECTLY INTO THE PVN AND JUST MEASURE CIRCULATING CORTICOSTEROIDS. WHEN YOU INJECT YOU SEE THIS TIME DEPENDENT INCREASE IN CIRCULATING CORTICOSTEROIDS WHICH IS REPORTED BY DOZEN AND DOZEN OF LABS. THIS IS NOT NEW. WHAT'S INTERESTING, THOUGH, IS THAT WHEN YOU DO THE SAME EXPERIMENT AFTER YOU'VE STRESSED AN ANIMAL FOR 30 MINUTES, YOU DO NOT SEE THE SAME INCREASE IN CIRCULATING CORTICOSTEROIDS, OKAY. SO THE SYSTEM HAS CHANGED IN SOME WAY FOLLOWING STRESS. WHEN WE LOOKED A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFULLY AT THE FIRING OF THESE CELLS SO WE TOOK SLICES CONTAINING THE PVN EITHER FROM NAIVE ANIMALS OR FROM ANIMAL THAT HAVE BEEN STRESSED AND ATTACHED RECORDINGS, DOESN'T PERTURB THE ENVIRONMENT AND JUST RECORD ACTION POTENTIAL IN THESE CELLS. WHAT YOU FIND IS THAT WHEN YOU LOCK GABA RECEPTORS, THE CELLS INCREASE, THEY ARE FIRING GREAT. THAT SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISING. WHEN YOU BLOCK THE RECEPTORS FROM STRESSED ANIMALS, THOUGH, WE SEE NO CHANGE IN FIRING, OKAY. SO THIS SYSTEM IS DISINHIBITED AND GABA APPEARS NOT TO BE INHIBITORY ANYMORE. SO THIS IS JUST SUMMARY DATA FROM A NUMBER OF CELLS SHOWING CONTROL INCREASE IN FIRING AFTER STRESS BY FAILED TO INCREASE THE ACTIVITY OF THESE CELLS. SO WHAT TURNS THE HP ON. SO OUR APPROACH IS TO TAKE CORONAL SLICES OF THE HYPOTHALAMUS THAT CONTAIN THE PARAVENTRICULAR NUCLEUS. THIS IS A SECTION CONTAINING THE PVN AND WE MAKE RECORDINGS FROM NEURONS, LOOK AT THE NEURONS AND LOOK AT THE MORPHOLOGY, THE RELATIVELY BORING CELLS THEY HAVE TWO DENY RATE DENDRITES AND NOT VEHEMENT SYNAPSES. ELECTRICALLY COMPACT CELLS AND HUNDREDS OF MEGAOMS MAKING SYNAPTIC PARAMETERS RELATIVELY EASY, OKAY. AND THESE GREEN CELLS BY NEURONS THAT HAVE BEEN IMMUNOSTAINED FOR CRH. SO WE CAN IDENTIFY THESE NEURONS, EITHER POST HAWK WITH THE CHEMISTRY OR PRIOR TO OR DURING THE RECORDING JUST BY THE ELECT FULL FINGERPRINT OF THESE NEURON. THEY HAVE A STEREO ELECTRICAL FINGERPRINT WITH A FIRE ACTION POTENTIAL WITHOUT ANY DELAY. THERE'S LOW POTENTIALISTIC WHICH IS NO EVIDENT IN OTHER FORMS OF THE NEURONS. WE USE EXTRACELLULAR ELECTRODES -- IN THE PRESENCE OF CNQX TO BLOCK GLUTAMATE TRANSMISSION AND THESE CURRENTS ARE ENTIRELY BLOCKED BY GABA A RECEPTOR ANTAGONISTS. OKAY. SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID WAS WE JUST LOOKED AT THE BASAL PARAMETERS FOLLOWING STRESS. WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT 30 MINUTE RESTRAINT STRESS DIDN'T DO VERY MUCH TO EITHER THE INPUT RESISTANCE, THE PULSE RATIO, THE FREQUENCY OF SPONTANEOUS IPST'S OR THE AMPLITUDE OF SPONTANEOUS ACTIVITY. STRESS ITSELF DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE CHANGING USING WHOLE CELL RECORDING THE BASAL PROPERTIES OF THE SYNAPSES ON TO THESE CELLS. BUT STRESS DOES ALTER HOW GABA WORKS. AND WE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT GABA A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. WE THNT THINK ABOUT RELEASE PROBABILITY OR THE NUMBER OF SYNAPSES OR HOW MANY GABA RECEPTORS WERE THERE. WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT GABA JUST FROM FIRST PRINCIPLES OF WHAT GABA ACTUALLY DOES. WE KNOW THAT GABA'S INHIBITORY BECAUSE IN THE ANIMAL, CONCENTRATIONS IN THE CELLS ARE VERY LOW. WHEN GABA BINDS TO ITS GABA A RECEPTORS, CHLORIDE TENDS TO FLOW DOWN THE GRADIENT WHEN THE CELL IS AT REST AND HYPER POLARIZES ITSELF. THE REASON THE GREAT YUBT IS LOW BECAUSE MOST NEURONS IS A TRANSPORTER CALLED KC2 WHICH IS A POTASSIUM CHLORIDE COTRANSPORTER WHICH PUMPS CHLORIDE OUT OF THE CELL. AND SO WE ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION WE SAID WELL WHAT IF STRESS ALTERS THE FUNCTION OF THIS TRANSPORTER. EITHER CHANGES THE EXPRESSION OF THE TRANSPORTER OR CHANGES THE WAY THE TRANSPORTER WORKS. AND IF IT DID THAT, CHLORIDE WOULD BUILD UP IN THE CELL AND MAO WHEN THE GABA A RECEPTOR IS ACTIVATED UNDER SOME CONDITIONS, CHLORIDE WOULD FLOW OUT OF THE CELL AND PERHAPS LEAD TO EXCITATION. SO THIS IDEA HAS BEEN EXPLORED EXTENSIVELY IN THE EPILEPSY LITERATURE, IN THE DEVELOPMENTAL LITERATURE AND IN THE ADULT NERVOUS SYSTEM, IT'S AN IDEA THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED BY MIKE SALTER LOOKING AT CHANGES IN KC2 FOLLOWING PERIPHERAL INDUCTION OF NEUROPATHIC PAIN. AND SO WE ASK WELL ARE THERE PHYSIOLOGICAL SITUATIONS WHERE THIS MIGHT BECOME IMPORTANT WITH AN OBVIOUS THOUGHT ABOUT DISTRESS AXIS. SO THIS IS THE HYPOTHESES THAT -- WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THIS INHIBITION AND INCREASED EXCITABILITY OF THESE NERVESZ SECRETORY CELLS FOLLOWING ACUTE STRESS. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID WAS DID A SIMPLE EXPERIMENT WHERE WE JUST HELD THE CELL AT DIFFERENT MEMBRANE PO TESTIFIED AND E -- POTENTIALS SO THESE ARE IPSC'S THE REVERSE POTENTIAL IS ABOUT HERE IN THESE CELLS. ABOUT MINUS 75 -- OR SO. WE STRESS THE ANIMAL, DID THE SAME EXPERIENCE AGAIN AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THE DEPOLARIZING SHIFT. SO THESE ARE EXPERIMENTS THAT ARE DONE WITH GRAM AWACIDE -- SO THAT NOW AT REST GABA IS NOT INHIBITORY UNDER SOME CONDITIONS IT'S EXCITATORY. WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS POOR CHLORIDE. WE DID THIS EXPERIMENT DIFFERENTLY. WE SAID OKAY IF KC2 THIS TRANSPORTER IS WHAT'S REGULATING CHLORIDE, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE JUST FARM COLLAGELY INHIBIT KC2. WHEN WE DO THAT, WE SEE A DEPOLARIZING SHIFT IN E GABA. THESE ARE WHOLE CELL RECORDINGS AND IT WORKS JUST AS WELL IN WHOLE CELL ALTHOUGH YOU'LL NOTICE THE SHIFT IS NOT AS ROBUST. AND THEN WE DID AN EXPERIMENT IN WHICH WE INJECTED IT INTO THE PVN AND ASKED IS THAT SUFFICIENT TO LAUNCH THIS REST RESPONSE. JUST WALKING KC2 IN VIVO INCREASES THE RELEASE OF CORTICOSTEROIDS IN THE PERIPHERAL FIBRILLATION. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS TRANSPORTER IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. WE DID A CURSORY EXAMINATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE PROTEIN LEVEL. WE FOUND THAT THERE'S NO CHANGE IN OVERALL KC2 PROTEIN SO THERE ARE TWO BANDS BECAUSE PROTEIN IS REQUIRED TO BE DIMERIZED, TRANSPORTED AND ININTEURTD THE MEMBRANE. WE FOUND NO CHANGE IN TOTAL PROTEIN OR THE DIMER RATIO OF KC2. SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DID WAS WE DID SYNAPTIC STIMULATION OF GABA INPUTS TO THESE CELLS. WHILE WE'RE RECORDING THE CELLS AND THE CELL ATTACHED CONFIGURE CONFIGURATION. WHAT WE FOUND IS UNDER LOW FREQUENCY WITHIN HERTZ OR FIVE HERTZ STIMULATION WE FOUND NO CHANGE IN THE FIRING RANGE OF THESE CELLS. WHEN YOU START TO PUSH THE SYSTEM GO TO 10 HERTZ OR 20 HERTZ STIMULATION YOU START TO UNMAUNMASK INCREASES WHICH IS A CONTRAST WHAT YOU SEE UNDER CONTROLLED CONDITIONS WHICH IS AN INHIBITION OF FIRING OF THESE CELLS. SO OF COURSE WHEN YOU PUBLISH WORK FROM YOUR LAB, YOU'RE LIKE WELL NOBODY ELSE IS REALLY REPORTING THIS, WHAT'S GOING ON. SO WE WERE VERY PLEASED A COUPLE YEARS LATER TO SEE THIS PAPER OUT OF JAMIE MAC WIRE'S LAB WHERE THEY SHOWED IF YOU ACTIVATE EXTRA SYNAPTIC GABA A RECEPTORS FOLLOWING -- YOU GET A DECREASE IN FIRING BUT IN STRESSED ANIMALS YOU SEE AN INIS CREASE IN FIRING OF THESE SAME CELLS. SO SUGGESTING THAT ACTUALLY THERE'S A ROBUST CHANGE LIKE GABA WHICH IS DRIVING INCREASED ACTIVITY OF THESE CELLS. OKAY. SO JUST TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THE FIRST PART OF THE TALK. SO STRESS IS INDUCED TO DOWN REGULATION OF KC2 WHICH RESULTED IN THE COLLAPSE OF THE TRANSMEMBRANE CHLORIDE GREAT YENT AND UNMAP THESE GATHERING INDUCED EXCITATIONS. JAMIE LAB HAS SHOWN THE -- DEPHOSPHORYLATION OF THE PROTEIN AND THESE RESULTS ARE ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH OUR ALWAYS INFORMATION OF POST TRANSLATION MODIFICATIONS IN THE TRANSPORTER. SO FOR THE SECOND PART OF THE TALK I'LL SWITCH GEARS AND TALK ABOUT THE WORK JACKIE UPTION -- JACKIE'S BEEN DOING. HOW DOES THIS SYSTEM ADAPT. THOSE OF YOU THINKING ABOUT SYNAPSES IS LEARNING ADAPTATION IN MOST CIRCUITS BOILS DOWN TO UNDERSTANDING THESE PHENOMENA, LONG TERM POTENTIATION. THEY ARE WIDELY TO BE IMPORTANT SUBSTRATES FOR EXPERIENCE DEPENDENT LEARNING IN NEUROCIRCUIT. AT GABA SYNAPSES RETROGRADE SIGNALS ARE THOUGHT TO BE PRETTY IMPORTANT PLASTICITY MOLECULES, THE NUMBER OF LABS, HAS SHOWN THAT THINGS LIKE NITRIC OXIDE ARE IMPORTANT FOR LTP AT GABA SYNAPSES. AND LABS LIKE -- HAVE SHOWN THAT ENDO CAB NOIDS ARE IMPORTANT. THIS IS A FIGURE OUT OF -- SHOWING IN THE HIP CA HIPPOCAMPUS YOU CAN GET INHIBITORY LTD -- WHICH CAN BE ENTIRELY BLOCKED IF YOU PRETREAT SLICES WITH -- ANTAGONIST OF RECEPTORS. THEY PROPOSED A MODEL WHICH LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT YOU HAVE THE HETERO SYNAPTIC RECRUITMENT OF ENDO CAB NOIDS WHICH PRODUCES -- TO DECREASE THE RELEASE OF GABA. THIS IS RELATIVELY WELL ESTABLISHED PHENOMENA ABOUT HOW ENDO CAB NOIDS SIGNAL. SO WE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT RETRO GREAT SIGNALS AS PLASTICITY SIGNALS AT THESE GABA SYNAPSES. AND WE DID SOME, JUST SOME PRETTY SIMPLE EXPERIMENTS SHOWING THAT IF WE USE PROTOCOLS THAT INDOING ENDO CAB NOID RELEASE LIKE THE POST SIGNAL PARTICULAR CELL WE CAN GET WHAT'S DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY AT MANY SYNAPSES THE DEPOLARRATION -- YOU CAN DO I OVER AND OVER IN THIS CELL AND YOU CAN DO IT IN MANY CELLS DSI IS PRESENT. IT'S ROBUST. SO THIS IS JUST THAT ENDO CAB NOIDS ARE MADE IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY CAN ACT AS RETRO GATED SIGNALS AT LEAST TRANSIENTLY IN THESE CASES. ENDO CAB NOIDS AS WE ALL KNOW IS NOT ONLY THE RETROGRADE SIGNALS. THERE'S A OATH OF OTHER SIGNALS. -- SUMMARIZED THESE NICELY IN A REVIEW IN NEURONS SHOWING NOT ONLY LIPID DERIVED SIGNALS THE NITRIC OXIDES I JUST SHOWED A SECOND AGO, GASES LIKE NITRIC OXIDE BUT A ALSO PEPTIDES LIKE OPIOID PEPTIDES, OTHER NEUROPEPOIDS CAN ALSO PLAN AN IMPORTANT ROLE AS RETROGRADE SIGNALS. I WANT YOU TO HOLD ON TO THIS THOUGHT BECAUSE WE'LL COME BACK TO IT. OKAY. SO WE TRIED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT INDUCE PLASTICITY IN THIS SYSTEM. AND WE USED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROTOCOLS TO TRY TO INDUCE PLASTICITY AND I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW THE RAW DATA BELOW HERE. YOU CAN INDUCE ROBUST IPSC'S AND WE TRIED MANY MANY PROTOCOLS -- REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE TRIED IN THIS SYSTEM, WE FAILED TO INDUCE ANY FORM OF TOXICITY IN THIS SYSTEM, OKAY. SO THEN WE ASKED WELL WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE BEGIN TO STRESS ANIMALS AND START TO ASK THESE SIMILAR TYPES OF QUESTIONS. IF WE INTERROGATE THE SYNAPSES USING A PROTOCOL LIKE THIS AFTER STRESSING AN ANIMAL, DOES THE SYSTEM BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY. OKAY. SO WE KNOW THAT A COUPLE THINGS DETERMINE ACTIVITY IN THE SYSTEM. I TALKED ABOUT THE SYNAPSES AND ALSO TALKED ABOUT CIRCULATING LEVELS OF CORTICOSTEROIDS, OKAY. AND SO WE ASKED AN ASSOCIATIVE SIGNAL DURING OWE AFTER STRESS THAT IMPACTS SUBSEQUENT PLASTICITY ON THE GABA SYNAPSES. OF COURSE IT'S THOUGHT TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT SIGNAL FOR THE INDUCTION OF PLASTICITY AT GLUTAMATE SYNAPSES IN THE HIPPOCAMPUS IN THE TR STRIATUM AND THOUGHT TO PLAY A ROLE IN THE -- INCREASING THE RELEASE OF ENDO CAB NOIDS IN THE HIPPOCAMPUS AS WELL. SO WE ASKED WHETHER IT COULD PLAY SIMILAR ROLES HERE AND ARTICLE THE INDUCTION OF PLASTICITY FOLLOWING STRESS. OKAY. AND SO I'LL JUST WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROTOCOL. THIS TIME LINE SHOWS UP IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER IN A NUMBER OF SLIDES. SO WE PERFORMED EXPERIMENTS FROM NAIVE ANIMALS. SO SLICES OF NAIVE ANIMALS OR WE STRESS THE ANIMALS FOR 30 MINUTES USING IMMOBILIZATION THREAT, IMMOBILIZATION STRESS AND THEN SACRIFICE AT DIFFERENT TIME POINTS, EITHER IMMEDIATELY AFTER OR 30 MINUTES AFTER THE STRESS HAD BEEN TERMINATED OR 60 MINUTES OR 90 MINUTES, OKAY. SO I SHOULD SAY THESE ARE ALL MALES, RATS, THEY'RE AGED UP TO 21 TO ABOUT T40. OKAY. SO WE DID THE SAME PAIRING PROTOCOLS IN NAIVE ANIMALS THAT I SHOWED YOU THIS ALREADY. IF YOU STRESS AND YOU WAIT 30 MINUTES, YOU START TO SEE THIS DEPRESSION. IF YOU WAIT 60 MINUTES, THE DEPRESSION STARTS TO EVOLVE AND GETS MORE ROBUST. AND IF YOU WAIT 90 MINUTES, YOU GET WHAT IS A BONE FIDE LONG LASTING ROBUST LTD SYNAPSES, OKAY. SO WHAT IS THE, HOW DOES THE LTD MANIFEST, WHAT ARE THE PROPERTIES OF THE LTD. WE LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFULLY AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE NOTED WAS THAT THIS LTD IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN INCREASE IN THE PARAPULSE RATIO THAT IS SHOWN HERE IN THE LTD IN STRESS SLICES THEY CHANGE IN THE NAIVE SLICES AND ALSO A CHANGE IN THE CB SQUARED CONSISTENT WITH THE INCREASE IN THE RELEASE PROBABILITY OF GABA. SO UNLIKE ENDO CAB NOID LTD HAS BEEN DESCRIBED IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEGREASE IN SPONTANEOUS GABA IPSCS. THESE ARE TRIESES FROM NAIVE ANIMAL BEFORE PAIRING AND 30 MINUTES AFTER PAIRING. THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE FREQUENCY OF AMPLITUDE. IN STRESSED ANIMALS HOWEVER IF YOU STRESS AND WAIT 90 MINUTES AND YOU PAIR, THERE'S A ROBUST INCREASE. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A DECREASE IN THE RELEASE PROBABILITY OF MANY GABA SYNAPSES ON TO THESE NEURONS. SO THAT DATA IS JUST SUMMARIZED RIGHT HERE SHOWING A DECREASE IN FREQUENCY OF THE 135U7 SPONTANEOUS BUT NO CHANGE IN THE AMPLITUDE. SO WE ASKED WELL, ARE CORTICOSTEROIDS THE SIGNALS FOR THE INDUCTION OF THE CELL PD. IS GLUCOCORTICOID ACTIVATION NECESSARY. WE DID THIS EXPERIMENT IN WHICH WE EITHER INJECTED -- OR THE ANTAGONIST OF CYTOSOLIC COURT COAL RECEPTORS PRIOR TO THE STRESS. SUBJECTED THE ANIMAL TO STRESS AND THEN PREPARED SLICES 90 MINUTES LATER THAT YOU SEE IN THE LTD. SO IN THE VEHICLE CONTROLS WE SEE VERY ROBUST LTD IN THIS SYSTEM. FOLLOWING -- BLOCKED GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTORS, WE COMPLETELY WIPED OUT THE LCD'S. SO IT APPEARS THAT GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTOR ACTIVATION IS NECESSARY IN VIVO FOR THE INDUCTION OF THIS LTD. SO WE ASKED WHETHER WE COULD JUST INDUCE THE LTD JUST BY TAKING THE SLICES FROM NAIVE ANIMALS AND INCUBATING THEM WITH CORTICOSTEROIDS. SO BASICALLY DOES THIS MIMIC THE EFFECTS OF CIRCULATING GLUCOCORTICOID STEROIDS. HERE'S A TIME LINE, REKURVETION INCUBATE -- RECOVER, ARE INCUBATE AND THEN REGARD 30 MINUTES LATER. AND UNDER THESE CASES ALSO WE SEE VERY ROBUST LTD'S. VERY VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW 90 MINUTES AFTER STRESS. OKAY. AND SO WE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT THE IDEA THAT CORTICOSTEROIDS WERE ACTING ON THESE NEUROSECRET TREE -- NEUROSECRETORY CELLS PRODUCING GABA RELEASE. WHAT'S THE TRIGGER FOR LTD. FOR END OWE CAB NOIDS ARE VERY VERY IMPORTANT SO THE SCHEME LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THIS. PERHAPS COUPLED WITH CALCIUM INFLUX TO CALCIUM CHANNELS CAUSES THE PRODUCTION OF SOMETHING THE CAB NOID, SOME OTHER TYPE OF PEPTIDE THAT CAN ACT AS A RETROGRADE SIGNAL. WE TESTED THIS AND USED ANTAGONISTS -- RECEPTORS AND USING THE MGLUR5 WE NOTED WE COULD COMPLETELY WIPE OUT LTD'S IN OUR SYSTEM. IT LOOKS LIKE MGLUR IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO THE MGLUR ACTIVATION IS NOT SUFFICIENT BY ITSELF TO GENERATE LTD, OKAY. SO NORMALLY IF YOU JUST APPLY MGLUR AGONIST, DHPG THE BROAD SPECTRUM AGONIST WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF POTENTIATION, A VERY HIGH DOSE. IF WE HAVE EVIDENCE IN SLICES THAT HAVE INCUBATED WITH CORTICOID STEROID WE SEE A LITTLE BIT OF DEPRESSION BUT NOT VERY MUCH DEPRESSION LIKE WE SAW WHEN WE INDUCED LTD WITH A PAIRING PROTOCOL OARK. IF WE DEPOLARIZE THE CELL AND IF WE TREAT THE SLICES OF CORTICOID STEROID AND DEPOLARIZE THE CELLS, WE SEE THIS VERY ROBUST DEPRESSION, WHICH IS ACCOMPANIED BY AN INCREASE IN PARAPULSE RATIO JUST LIKE WE OBSERVED DURING THE INDUCTION OF ACTIVITY DEPENDENT LTD. SO IT LOOKS LIKE DEPOLARIZATION, CORTICOID STEROID MGLUR ACTIVATION ALTOGETHER CONVERGE TO GIVE US THIS HE RHO BUS LONG TERM DEPRESSION AT THESE SYNAPSES. WE HAVE GDP DATA S AND FOUND WE COULD COMPLETELY BLOCK THE LTD. IF IT'S CALCIUM DEPENDENT WE COULD LOAD OURSELF WITH BAPTA CALCIUM AND SHOWED IT COULD COMPLETELY BLOCK LTD. WE HAVE A SCHEME THAT BEGINS TO DEVELOP SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YOU NEED ACTIVATION OF POST SNAB SYNAPTIC MGLUR5 -- WHICH LIBERATES THE RETROGRADE SIGNAL. SO WE ASKED IS THE RETROGRADE SIGNAL INVOLVED SO WE DID THE EXPERIMENT THAT EVERYBODY WHO IS LOOKING AT IO -- AND THAT IS INCUBATE OUR SLICES WITH THREE MICRMY MOLAR AND SO THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN LTD WE OBSERVED IN SLICES THAT HAVE BEEN TREATED LIKE THIS. IT APPEARS NOT TO BE CD1 RECEPTOR DEPENDENT. A COUPLE LABS HAVE RECENTLY SHOWN ENDO CAB NOIDS CAN ACT THROUGH -- RECEPTORS ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T THINK THIS WAS A LIKELY CANDIDATE. WITH A HE DECIDED TO TEST IT ANYWAY JUST TO MAKE SURE. AND SO IF YOU INCUBATE WITH 10 MICRO MOLAR TO BLOCK THESE RECEPTORS LIKE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN, WE SAW ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT IN THE INDUCTION OF LTD. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IF WE HAVE A RETROGRADE SIGNAL WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE WE DID WHICH IS CALCIUM DEPENDENT, IT APPEARS NOT TO BE AN ENDO CAB NOID THAT'S ACTING THROUGH A CB1 RECEPTOR. WHEN WE GOT TO THIS POINT I WAS REALLY PUZZLED. I REALLY WANTED JACKIE TO TRY CB2 ANTAGONISTS, TRY THIS AND TRY THAT. SHE WAS REALLY INSISTENT THAT IT WAS THE GOING TO BE END OW ENDO CAB NOID. I DON'T KNOW WHY. SHE DECIDED TO DO AN EXPERIMENT TO PROVE ME WRONG. THEY RELISH THE IDEA TO PROVE THEIR SUPERVISORS WRONG. SO JACKIE LOOKED INTO LITERATURE A LITTLE BIT AND WE KNEW THIS WAS PRESENT ALREADY IS THAT THESE NEURONS THE CRH NEURONS AS WELL AS THE BASAL -- OX OXYTOCIN NEURON -- DOWN THE AX SU AXON AND RELEASE THE TERMINALS IN THE DENY DIETLE -- PERHAPS AUTO CRINE SIGNALS TO SCULPTED THE SYNAPTIC INPUTS TO THESE CELLS. WE KNOW THESE ARE RELEASED IN A MANNER THAT ARE SIMILAR TO SYNAPTIC, IN OTHER WORDS THEY -- RETEENPROTEINS FOR EXOCYTOSIS. JACKIE DID THE EXPERIMENT WHERE SHE INCLUDED THE -- TOXIN C, TRIED THE PAIRING PROTOCOL AND SHOWED IT COULD COMPLETELY WIPE OUT LTD, OKAY MUCH SO IT LOOKS LIKE SOME FUSION EVENT IS REQUIRED FOR THE INDUCTION OF LTD. WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT MORE CLASSICAL TRANSMITTER SIGNALS THAT ARE NOT LIPIDS OR GASES, OKAY. SO WHAT IS THAT SIGNAL. SO THE LITERATURE OVER THE LAST 20 TO 30 YEARS STARTING WITH WORK BY THOMAS HOT FIELD, A SWEDISH ANATOMIST SHOWED THESE ALSO CONTAIN OTHER SIGNALS THAT SHOW UP IN A STRESS DEPENDENT FASHION. SO ONE OF THOSE SIGNALS IS THE OPIOID PEPTIDE CAP LYNN. WE DID -- SO THESE ARE CRH NEURONS AND THESE ARE KEF LYNN NEURONS LABELED IN RED. THESE ARE NAIVE SLICES WITH YOU THE ANIMALS HAVE BEEN TREATED WITH -- TO ALLOW US TO VISUALIZE THE PEPTIDE CONTENT A LITTLE BIT MORE READILY. WHEN WE DO THIS EXPERIENCE WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THERE INDEAD IS -- NEUL NOTIC YOU'LL NOTICE -- WE'RE DOING EXPERIMENTS RIGHT NOW WITH STRESSED ANIMALS TO SEE IF THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE EXPRESSION OF -- SOME OF THEM-- IF YOU THINK BACK TO THE SLIDE I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, ALMOST ALL OF THE NEURONS ARE ACTIVATED THROUGH STRESS. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ENKEPHALIN EXPRESSION IN THIS SYSTEM. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED WHAT ENDOGENOUS DOES -- DIFFERENT TYPES OF BEHAVIOR. THERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF ACTIONS OF ENDOGENOUS OPIOIDS ON GLUTAMATE TRANSMISSIONS BUT THEY ARE REMARKABLY FEW EXAMPLES OF EFFECTIVE ENDOGENOUS OPIOIDS ON GABA TRANSITIONS. SO WE DID AN EXPERIMENT AND WE JUST INFUSED 500 -- WHICH IS A NEW DELTA AGONIST ON TO THESE SLICES AND SHOWED THAT WE COULD SEE DEPRESSION. THIS HAS BEEN REPORTED BY OTHER PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT SYSTEMS WHICH IS ACCOMPANIED BY AN INCREASE IN THE PARAPULSE RATIO. WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE DID AN EXPERIMENT WHICH WE TRIED TO BLOCK THE LCD. A FEW INQUEUE BAIT SLICES WITH -- COULD COMPLETELY WIPE OUT THE LTD'S SUGGESTING IT'S AN OPIOID SIGNAL. IF WE DO IT MORE CAREFULLY WITH A NEW RECEPTOR ANTAGONIST, CTAP, WE CAN ALSO COMPLETELY WIPE OUT THE SIGNALS. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING RELEASE OF AN OPIOID PEPTIDE AT THIS POINT WE'D SAY IT'S MOST LIKELY ENKEPHALIN WE HAVEN'T NAILED THIS DOWN 100% I THINK WHICH IS ACTING ON A PRESYNAPTIC OPIOID RECEPTOR TO DECREASE THE GABA. IF THIS IS THE CASE, IF IS ENKEPHALIN RELEASE ACTING ON -- WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THE RECEPTOR WITH AN ENDOGENOUS LYINGENELIGAND AND WE CAN OCCLUDE THE ACTIVITY. THAT'S THE EXPERIMENT WE DID NEXT SO WE WE APPLIED ONE MICRO MOLAR -- SUGGESTING THAT THESE TWO PROTOCOLS SHARE A SIMILAR MECHANISM THAT INDEED WE ARE GETTING RELEASE OF ENKEPHALIN WHICH IS ACTING ON A PRESYNAPTIC OPIOID RECEPTOR. SO WHAT I HOPE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW YOU QUICKLY I THINK IS THAT THESE STRESS CIRCUITS LAUNCH AND ADAPT IANDADAPT INANDADAPT IN UNIQUE WAYS. I TALKED ABOUT CORTICOIDS THAT CAN ACT ON MGLUR5 TO CAUSE THE RELEASE OF AN ENKEPHALIN OPIOID PEPTIDE WHICH ACT AS A PRESYNAPTIC OPIOID RECEPTOR TO DECREAS THE PROBABILITY OF RELEASE AT GABA SYNAPSES. UNLIKE ENDO CAB NOIDS WHICH SEEM TO TARGET -- THAT ARE ACTIVE, THESE OPIOIDS SEEM TO TARGET MOST OF THE GABA SYNAPSES ON THESE NEURONS. SO THERE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT MECHANISM OF ACTION HERE. SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE PRESYNAPTIC DEPOLARIZATION TO TARGET THE SNAPS. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TALK I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE ALPHA -- DRIVEN DOWN REGULATION OF KC2 WHICH RENDERS THIS GABA INHIBITION EFFECTIVELY MUTE, OKAY. SO IT ALLOWS THIS SYSTEM TO LAUNCH ITSELF TO BE DISINHIBITED AND THEN ONCE THE SYSTEM IS 4R5U67D AND YOU TRY TO RECRUIT THESE GABA SYNAPSES AT HIGHER FREQUENCIES, THESE CELLS ACTUALLY BECOME EXCITED. SO WE WOULD SAY THAT AFTER STRESS THE SYSTEM BECOMES CONDITIONALLY EXCITATORY AND THAT PLASTICITY OF GABA SNAPS IS ACTUALLY HE EVER -- SYNAPSE IS NOT DISSIMILAR TO THE FUNCTION SUREFUNCTION -- I ALSO THINK THIS SYSTEM KIND OF I THINK THESE OBSERVATIONS BEGIN TO ANSWER THESE TWO QUESTIONS WHAT TURNS IT ON AND HOW DOES THE HP ADAPT. I SHOULD SAY THESE ARE VERY, THESE ARE ELECTROPHYSIOLOGICAL OBSERVATIONS SO WHEN WE THINK WHAT IT TURNS IT ON, WE THINK ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE SWITCH THAT TURNS IT ON. MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THESE SEIZE TUMS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT G TRANSCRIPTION AND THE EXPRESSION OF PROTEINS AND WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS. SO WE THINK, WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH INITIAL IGNITION SWITCHES AND VERY RAPID SYNAPTIC ADAPTATIONS TO STRESS. I THINK THESE WILL GO HAND IN HAND WITH A LOT OF THE PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED CHANGES IN MRNA PROTEIN THAT ALLOW THE SYSTEM TO BE MODIFIED AND TO ADAPT TO SUBSEQUENT STRESSORS. SO I THINK THAT WHAT THESE OBSERVATIONS BEGIN TO TELL US IS PAINTED A LITTLE BIGGER PICTURE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BRAIN AS IT HAS TO MAKE THIS JOURNEY FROM BIRTH TO DEATH. AND SO AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN THIS TRAJECTORY THE BRAIN CAN EXIST IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STATES AND SO I THINK WE'VE USED STRESS TO MODEL A PARTICULAR STATE IN THE BRAIN ESPECIALLY FOR THE HYPOTHALAMUS. AND THAT THE LAUNCH OF THIS STRESS STATE, WHAT GOES ON WITHIN THE STRESS STATE AND THE FIRM NATION OTERMINATION OF THE STRESS STA TE ALLOW THE SYSTEM TO LEARN VERY COLLOQUIALLY. SO LEARN IN A WAY -- VERY UNIQUELY. SO TO LEARN IN WAY -- THIS LEARNING THEN ALLOWS THE SYSTEM LATER ON WHEN IT'S PRESENTED WITH THE SAME PROBLEM, THE SAME CHALLENGE TO REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED AND LAUNCH A RESPONSE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFECTIVELY. SO THERE ARE YOU NEED TO FIND WAYS TO ERASE THIS TOXICITY BECAUSE YOU DOANT WITH A THE SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO BASELINE EVENTUALLY TO REPAIR ITSELF FOR THE NEXT STRESS. YOU DON'T WANT THIS TO BE PERMANENTLY ENCODEDMENT WHAT ARE THE BEHAVIORAL MECHANISMS WHICH ALLOW THIS SYSTEM TO RESET AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT CHALLENGE. DOES IT REMEMBER THIS STIMULUS FOR THE NEXT CHALLENGE. DOES IT RESPOND MORE QUICKLY, MORE ROBUSTLY, WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THAT CHALLENGE. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT MY LAB IS JUST BEGINNING TO PERSEAF BUT I THINK NOW -- PERCEIVE BUT NOW WE HAVE THE TOOLS AND THE RULES, THE SYNAPTIC RULES THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GET TO THESE CHALLENGES IN A MORE PRECISE FASHION. LET ME CLOSE BY THANKING OF COURSE SARA AND JACKIE FOR REALLY A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND REALLY PROVIDING SOME INSIGHT HOW THIS SYSTEM WORKS. AND LET ME JUST THANK CIA CHAR WHICH FUNDS OUR SYSTEM AND FUNDS MY SALARY. THANKS TO CHRIS FOR THE INVITATION. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THAT'S A REALLY GREAT TALK AND ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS I'VE HAD ABOUT HOW STRESS WORKS SORT OF THE MOLECULAR CELLULAR LEVEL. AND I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT THIS SORT OF SWAPPING OUT OF STRESS FOR GLUCOCOUR GLUCOCORTICOID WHICH YOU CLAIM CAN BE DONE YET IN ALL OF YOUR DRAWINGS YOU'VE HAD NO PICTURES OF THE GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTOR AND THROUGH THAT THESE CHANGES MIGHT TAKE PLACE. SO DO WE NEED THAT IN THE PICTURE. AND THEN ALSO AFTER REPEATED STRESSORS, ARE THE CHEENGS IN THE GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTOR SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO RECEPTION. >> I GUESS I'M GUILTY OF DOING -- TREAT THE SYNAPSES LIKE A BLACK BOX. I REFER TIGHT AS TO IT AS A BLACK BALK. WE -- BLACK BOX. WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS DOWN STREAM FROM THAT RECEPTOR. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THE RECEPTOR NEEDS TO BE IN THAT PICTURE. OTHERS IN THIS, OTHERS WORKING IN THIS FIELD HAVE SHOWN THAT THERE MAY BE A POTENTIAL SECOND GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTOR WHICH IS MEMBRANE BOUND AND INTENSIVE TO RU4 AND 6. MAYBE. BUT THAT'S NOT, THOSE AREN'T THE EFFECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THESE ARE DEFINITELY THE CLASSIC CYTOSOLIC GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTOR. WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT VERY MUCH ABOUT WHAT THIS RECEPTOR DOES AND WHY IT TAKES THAT LONG, RIGHT. SO I MEAN THE STRESS IN 90 MINUTES OR HAVE YOU TO INCUBATE WITH COURT CORED STEROIDS FOR AT LEAST 60 MINUTES. CLEARLY THERE ARE OTHER THINGS GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CAUSING A TRAFFICKING MGLUR5 FOR THE MEMBRANE OR SWIVING OFF SECONDARY ELEMENTS WHICH MAY TERMINATE IT MORE QUICKLY LIKE RGS PROTEINS. THESE ARE ALL KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE BOUNCING AROUND IN HER HEADS. THOSE ARE REALLY REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT IS A, FOR THIS FIELD, FOR THIS STRESS FIELD UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT RECEPTOR REALLY DOES IN THIS RELATIVELY SHORT MINUTE TIME FRAME IS REALLY UNEXPLORED. PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED A LOT DOWN STREAM AT GENE TRANSCRIPTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF CYTOSOLIC EFFECTS WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED YET. I'LL PUT IT IN MY DRAWING, THANKS. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> SORRY, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOU. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THE SIZE OF THE BASELINE RESPONSE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL REALLY WELL. SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE START TO POOL DATA, WE HAVE TO NORMALIZE IT. WE DON'T ACTUALLY COMPARE BASELINE IN ONE CONDITION NAIVE VERSUS BASELINE ABOVE THE OTHER CONDITION STRESS. WE HAVE NOTHING LIKE THE RATIO FOR THESE SYNAPSES THAT WE CAN REALLY GET AT THAT. SO THE SIZE OF THAT IS JUST A FUNCTION OF HOW MANY FIBERS YOU STIMULATE IN THE RELEASE PROBABILITY OF THOSE GIVEN FIBERS. WE CAN'T NECESSARILY VERY ACTIVELY CONTROL THE NUMBER OF FIBERS UNLESS WE GO TO A PARARECORDING -- TYPE OF APPROACH TO ACTIVATE SPECIFIC INPUT. I THINK THAT'S JUST A PRESENTATION ARTIFACT. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> IT'S INTERESTING. PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT IT A NUMBER OF WAYSMENT ONE IS MORE FIN AND ONE IS TO KNOCK OUT ENKEPHALIN OR TO KNOCK OUT -- EXACTLY WHAT YOU PREDICT HAPPENS. WHEN YOU KNOCK IT OUT, YOU ACTUALLY, SO YOU GET LESS GABA. THE SYSTEM ACTUALLY LAUNCHES. SO YOU GET AN EXACERBATED STRESS RESPONSE. WHAT'S REALLY REALLY INTERESTING IS THAT WHEN YOU THEN FOLLOW THE STRESS RESPONSE, THE STRESS RESPONSE ACTUALLY ALSO LASTS LONGER. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE, SO, DID I SAY THAT RIGHT. I GOT THAT BACKWARDS. SO WHEN YOU HAVE NO OPIOID, YOU HAVE NO GABA INHIBITION, RIGHT. SO YOU'RE NOT INHIBITING GABA. I'M TALKING MYSELF INTO A CIRCULAR HERE. YES. YOU AMPHI THE RESPONS AMPLIFY THE RESPONSE OF STRESS. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT EFFECT IS HAPPENING. WE HAVEN'T DONE A TARGETED APPROACH. SO WE'RE JUST THINKING ABOUT, WE'VE JUST GOT SOME, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY INJECTING TRYING TO KNOCK DOWN OPIOID RECEPTORS. WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO STRESS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANKS.