>> OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S A SPECIAL PLEASURE FOR ME POETIC INTRODUCE DAVEED RAULET AS OUR SPEAKER TODAY AND AS I WAS PREPARING THIS INTRODUCTION, I REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL ANNIVERSARY BECAUSE 20 YEARS AGO, EXACTLY, 1991 HE PUBLISHED TWO LANDMARK PAPERS ON NK CELLS AND SOME OF THE ORIGINAL WORK ON NK CELL WAS DONE BY DAVID AT THAT TIME AND EVER SINCE. SO THE FIRST PAPER WAS TO SHOW THAT BONE MARROW FROM MICE DEFICIENT MHC CLASS ONE. SO THIS WAS THE BET ON TWO MICROGLOBIN KNOCK OUT THAT THOSE CELLS WERE REJECTED WHEN THEY WERE INJECTED, AND MHC CLASS ONE FOR RESISTANCE, SORT OF THE STRONG SUPPORTED MISSING HYPOTHESIS AND IT WAS A REAL EXPLANATION UNTIL THEN. AND ANOTHER PAPER, THE SAME ONE HERE SHOWED THAT IN THE BETA TWO M KNOCKOUT MICE THAT DON'T HAVE CLASS ONE, THERE ARE NK CELLS. AND THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIVE, SO THE FORM OF EDUCATION SO THERE'S NO--SO THERE'S SOME FORM OF MAGNIFICATION AND IT WAS A NEW CONCEPT. SO THIS WAS IN 1991 AND THE FIRST PAPER WAS FROM THE M. I.T. AND SECOND PAPER FROM BERKLEY. AND OVER THOSE 20 YEARS HE HAS NEVER STOPPED MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF NK CELLS AND I'LL MENTION, YOU KNOW JUST A COUPLE EMPLOY HE HAS SHOWN THAT EVEN IN WILD-TYPE MICE AND THE SAME HOLDS TRUE IN HUMAN, THERE ARE NK CELLS THAT DON'T HAVE IMAGE RECEPTORS OR THEY MAY HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL RECEPTOR FOR WHICH THERE'S NO ENDOGENOUS CELLS MHC CLASS ONE AND AGAIN, THESE NKCELLS ARE NOT KILLING INDISCRIMINATELY UNRESPONSIVE. SO SOME IS FORM OF EDUCATION, IT'S DONE CELL TRANSFER TO SHOW IT'S NOT A DIFFERENTIATION OR LINEAGE DIFFERENCE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE ENVIRONMENT. SO THEY CAN BECOME RESPONSIVE AND REQUIREMENT WHAT THEY DO HAVE A CLASS ONE LIAISON GAPPED FOR INDIVIDUAL RECEPTORS. HE'S ALSO DONE WORK ON A MAJOR ACTIVATION OF THE NK CELLS TWO-D, HIS LAB GENERATED MICE DEFICIENT IN THIS AND THOSE MICE DEVELOP SPONTANEOUS TUMORS AND THAT'S THE BEST EVIDENCE THERE IS TO SHOW THAT NK CELLS HAVE A ROLE IN TUMOR SURVEILLANCE. IT WASN'T OBVIOUS BECAUSE NK CELLS ARE NOT VERY GOOD AT DEALING WITH ESTABLISHED TUMORS BUT I THINK THIS WORKS SO THAT THEY'RE REALLY IMPORTANT IN PREVENTING CANCER TUMORS IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND HE'S DONE BEAUTIFUL WORK ON THE REGULATION OF LIGANDS FOR THE RECEPTORS AND DNA DAMAGE INDUCES EXPRESSION OF THE LIGANDS AND OF COURSE, THAT'S IMPORTANT FAR TUMOR SURVEILLANCE THROUGH NK CELLS SO I THINK I'LL STOP AND I'LL LET HIM TAKE OVER. I THINK HE WILL TAKE US ON A TOUR BECAUSE THE TITLE IS INNATE NK RECEPTORS AND THEIR LIGANDS, REGULATION IN CANCER, INFECTION AND INFLAMMATION DISEASE, SO IT'S--THANK YOU. >> IT'S REALLY GREAT TOW BE HERE, ERIC, THAT WAS A NICE INTRODUCTION, I HAVE A REALLY TERRIFIC DAY TODAY. NIH REALLY DOES HAVE GREAT IMMUNOLOGY. EVERYONE I TALKED TO HAS BEEN REALLY INTERESTING, SO I'M A LITTLE JEALOUS OF ALL THE STUFF YOU HAVE GOING ON AROUND HERE AND IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. SO, MY TITLE IS MORE GENERAL THAN WHAT I'LL ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT. IT MAKE ITS SOUND LIKE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENCES AND I'LL BE FOCUSING ON USING THE ONE THAT ERIC MENTIONED THE ONE CALLED NKTTWO B AND I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE ROLE IN THE CONTEXT IN CANCER. I'M ONLY GOING TO BARELY TOUCH ON RINE FECKS BUT I WILL HAVE A BIT TO SAY ON ITS ROLE IN INFLAMMATORY DISEASE. SO THIS SLIDE IS NOT NECESSARY HERE AT NIH UNLESS WE'RE FOCUSING ON NK CELLS AND OF COURSE THEY PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN INFECTION BUT MUCH OF OUR WORK FOCUSES ON THEIR ROLE IN CANCER. SO, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT NK CELLS ARE REGULATED BY A STIMLATTORY AND INHIBITORY RECEPTORS AND THAT THE ACTIVATION OF NK CELL SYSTEM DETERMINED BY THE BALANCE OF SIGNALING BETWEEN THESE TWO TYPES OF RECEPTOR. ONE OF THE--THE MAJOR CLASS OF INHIBITORY RECEPTORS RECOGNIZES MHC CLASS ONE MOLECULES AND SIGNALS THROUGH THOSE RECEPTORS THAT HELP TO PROTECT NORMAL CELLS FROM BEING ATTACKED BY NK CELLS. BUT ACTIVATING THROUGH RECEPTOR IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AND WE THINK JUST AS REGULATED IN THE SENSE IT CAN VARY UNDER DIFFERENT CONDITIONS OF INFECTION, UNDER DIFFERENT CONDITIONS OF INFLAMMATION AND IN CANCER CELLS, VERSES NORMAL CELLS. THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON AGAIN TODAY AND SPECIFICALLY NKTWO D, THERE ARE NUMEROUS ACTIVATING RECEPT ORS ON NKDTWO DIS THE BEST CHARACTERIZE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE KNOW MOST ABOUT THE LIAISON--LIGANDS AND THE ROLE OF THE NTWO KD CONTEXT. SO IT TURNS OUT THAT MANY OF THESE RECEPTORS RECOGNIZE SELF-LIGANDS, ENCODE INDEED OUR OWN GENOMES BUT SO THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE THEM AND THE REGULATION OF EXPRESSION OF THESE SELF-LIGANDS VARIES DEPENDING ON THE DISEASE STATUS OF THE CELL AND WE CALL THAT INDUCED CELL RECOGNITION SO NKTWO D HAS BEEN STUDIED BY NUMEROUS GROUPS AND I WON'T HAVE TIME TO CREDIT EVERYONE BUT ABOUT SPACE PLAYED A TIME EARLY ON AND LEWIS' GROUPS AND OTHER GROUP VS MADE MAJOR CONTRIBUTIONS TO UNDERSTANDING IT'S ROLE. IT SIGNALS THROUGH SEVERAL ADAPTER MOLECULES AND WELL, PARTICULARLY DAP 10 IN BOTH HUMANS AND MICE, AND IN MICE, DAP 12 CAN ALSO PLAY A ROLL. I WON'T REALLY SPEND ANY TIME TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS BUT BUT IT SIGNALS THROUGH SEVERAL SIGNALING PATHWAYS AND INCLUDING PTHREE CAIN ACE. AND CYTOKINE PRODUCTION BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT AND I'LL TOUCH ON THIS, THAT NKDTWO D IS EXPRESSED BY NUMEROUS DIFFERENT T-CELLS INCLUDING CDEIGHT T-CELLS, ALL CDEIGHT T-CELLS IN HUMANS IN FACT. --THE ROLE IN T-CELLS IT ENHANCES T-CELL ACTIVATION THROUGH THE T-CELL RECEPTOR, SO IT WILL THEREFORE COOPERATE WITH ANTIGEN SPECIFIC SIGNALS IN OTHER CASES, IT MAY SIGNAL DIRECTLY AND I THINK WE'RE STILL NOT--WE STILL DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA UNDERSTAND THE COMPLETE ROLE. ONE OF THE STRIKING FEATURES ABOUT NK2 D ARE THE NUMBER OF LIGANDS THAT THE RECEPTOR CHARACTERIZES AND WE HAVE BEEN CHARACTERIZED BY NUMEROUS GROUPS, INCLUDING AGAIN THE SPACE LAB WHO IDENTIFIED THE ULDP, THE MYC MOLECULES AND THE OBPs WERE IDENTIFIEDED IN SEATTLE BY, BY CONSTANCE GROUP AND THE MOUSE LIGANDS CHARACTERIZED BY A COUPLE GROUPS AND OUR GROUP, AND OTHERS. SO, THESE ARE ALL MHC 1 RELATIVES AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM. EACH OF US HAS UP TO 10 OF THESE THINGS OR SO, AND THEY'RE ALL MHC RELATIVES. THEY'RE--THE MAIN THEME WE THINK OF THEIR REGULATION IS THAT THEY'RE NOT EXPRESSED IN MOST NORMAL CELLS BUT UPREGULATED IN DISEASE CELLS AS I MENTIONED IF YOU LOOK AT INDEPENDENT TUMORS OR INFECTED CELLS YOU SEE 1 OR MORE OF THE LIGANDS BEING UPREGULATED AND IN TUMOR CELLS IN PARTICULAR, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO PREDICT, YOU MAY SEE, COVERT EXPRESSION OF SEVERAL LIGANDS OR ONLY EXPRESSION OF 1 LIGAND. NOW SOME YEARS AGO, INVESTIGATED, THE POTENTIAL ROLE OF THESE IN TUMOR REJECTION BY SIMPLY IDENTIFYING A FEW TUMOR CELL LINES THAT DIDN'T HAVE NK2 D LIGANDS, MOST OF THEM HAVE LIGANDS NATURALLY AND THEN WE INTRODUCE THEM BY TRANSDUCTION. THIS IS THE B16 MELANOMA CELL LINE AND THEN WE COMPARE THOSE WITH CONTROL CELLS FOR WHETHER THEY WOULD CAUSE SUBCUTANEOUS AND GENETIC MICE AND AND IN CASE OF THE CELLS EXPRESSIONING, POWERFUL REJECTION IN THE TUMOR SPACE WE DON'T GROW COMPARED TO THE CONTROL TUMORS AND YOU COULD REVERSE THIS INJECTION BY INJECTING THE D2 K ANTIBODIES TO BLOCK THE RECEPTOR INTERACTION, THIS IS AN ANTIBODY THAT'S NOT THE COMPLETE NK CELLS. AND MORE RECENTLY, A POST DOC IN THE LAB KNOCKED OUT THE NKD2 GENE AND THIS IS IF YOU COMPARE THE SAME LIGAND EXPRESSING TUMOR IN EITHER WILD-TYPE OR NKG2 D KNOCK OUTS, AND WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS TO MORE NATURAL MODELS AND WE SET THE TIES SPONTANEOUS MODELS AND THIS SHOWS THE DAT FRA THE TRAP MODEL. SO THIS IS THE MODEL OF SPONTANEOUS CANCER, MICE THAT--THAT OHM--TYPE OF THE CANCER THAT'S DIFFERENTIATED AND THE TUMORS ARE BIG AND THIS IS THE WEIGHT OF THE AREA, IT'S TOO BIG FOR A MOUSE TUMOR BUT IT ARISES RELATIVELY LATE, IT WILL EFFECTUALLY KILL ALL THE MICE, BUT A FEW OF THE CANCERS ARISE EARLY AND ARE MORE MALIGNANT AND ARE ENORMOUS AND EXTREMELY MALIGNANT CANCERS WHEN WE COMPARE MICE THAT HAD NKG2 D, WHAT WE OBSERVED WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE THESE EARLY EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE TYPES OF CANCER. THEY INCREASE BY I THINK ABOUT 3 FOLD IN THESE MICE. SUGGESTING THAT NKG2 D IS HOLDING THESE BACK IN THE WILD-TYPE MICE. WE ALSO SAW A PHENOTYPE IN THE IMMUNO MYC MODEL WHERE THERE WAS NYG2 D GOING BACK TO THE BASIS, THERE WAS ANOTHER LINE OF EVIDENCE OF NKG2 D'S ROLE AND THAT WAS COMPARING THEM TO LIGANDS IN THE TUMORS THAT AROSE HERE AND IN THE TUMORS THAT ROSE HERE IN THE KNOCK OUTS. AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THE TUMORS THAT AROSE IN THE KNOCK OUTS ALL EXPRESSED NKG2 D LIGANDS AT THE RNA LEVEL AND THE CELL SURFACE, THIS IS THE CASE OF THE RAY 1 LIGAND SHOWN HERE. BUT THE TUMORS THAT AROSE IN THE WILD-TYPE MICE DIDN'T EXPRESS NKG2 D, PROJECTING THEY HAD BEEN SELECTED FOR A LOSS OF LIGANDS. SOPHISTICATEDY WE PROPOSED THE FOLLOWING SCHEME THAT REALLY, THE EARLY TUMORS EXPRESSING NKG2 D SURFACE, SOME OF THEM ARE ELIMINATED ALTOGETHER AND THAT'S WHYRY HAVE THE LOWER INCIDENCE IN THE WILD-TYPES BUT IN SOME CASES A VARIANCE CAN GROW UP THAT LACK THOSE AND THOSE OF COURSE WILL GROW OUT BY SELECTION AND WILL END UP GROWING OUT TUMORS SO THAT CAN EXPLAIN BOTH OF THOSE LINES OF EFDZ. --EVIDENCE. NOW THERE'S A LOT MORE DATA ON CANCER AND I HAVE MORE LATER IN THE TALK BUT I WANTED TO TURN FOR A TIME TO HAD RELATED QUESTION OF WHETHER NKG2 D PLAYS A ROLE AND PARTICULARLY IN CHRONIC INFLAMMATION, AND WE BELIEVE IT ARISES, EVOLVE FOR THE PURPOSE OF HOST DEFENSE. IT'S INTERESTING DINS DENTALLY THAT TOM SPIES PUBLISHED A FINDING THAT TUMORS MAY COMMAND EAR THIS IN SOME CASES, EXPRESSING IT, AND NOT THE LIGANDS BUT THE RECEPTOR AND THE ADAPTER MOLECULE AND HE THINKS SERVES AS AN ORCHGA GENE THAT ENABLES THEM TO GROW BETTER BECAUSE IT ACTIVATES PI-3 KINASE IN THE TUMORS. WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN MUCH EVIDENCE OF THAT IN THE MOUSE SYSTEM, BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING FINDING. BUT THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT NKG2 D PLAY ACE ROLE WHEN IT'S INAPPROPRIATELY ACTIVATED IN CHRONIC INFLAMMATION AND THERE'S SEVERAL LINES OF EVIDENCE FOR THIS AND IT'S NOT BEEN GENERALLY CLEAR IN WHICH CELLS IT'S ACTING TO HAVE THESE EASTS AND I THINK IT'S STILL NOT CLEAR. SO THE FIRST LINE OF EVIDENCE DID COME FROM THE SPACE LAB, LOOKING AT RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS PATIENTS WHERE THEY SIMPLY FOUND EXPRESSION OF MYCA, HUMAN LIGANDS FOR NKG2 D, AND CELLS AND EVIDENCE THAT THEY WOULD CO ACTIVATE EACH OTHER IN CULTURE, AND SUGGEST THAT A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS INTERACTION PLAYS A ROLE IN THE PATHOLOGY ASSOCIATE WIDE RA. FOLLOWING A REPORT THAT IN SILLIAC DISEASE THERE'S AN IL15 MEDIATED NKG2 D MEDIATED ACTIVITY THAT SHE THINKS UNDERLIES MUCH THE OF THE PATHOLOGY IN THAT DISEASE. THERE'S GENETIC EVIDENCE THAT I THINK THIS IS ISN'T MEANT TO BE--LINKAGE OF THE DISEASE TO NKG2 D SUGGESTING A GENETIC LINE OF EVIDENCE, AND THEN I'LL LOSE FINANCIAL AND AND AND--I'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZE FOR YOU WHAT WE FOUND. SO FIRST OF ALL SURPRISINGLY, NKG2 D, AND 50 WE CROSS THE ANYTHING OUT ALLELE BACK TO THE NOD MOUSE EXPLTZ COMPARE IT LITTER MATES, THIS WAS MATCHED SO THIS WAS A PAINFUL THING TO DO. THE NKG2 D SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF GENES, IT'S POLYMORPHIC SO YOU HAVE TO WORRY WHEN YOU CROSS IT ON TOO A DIFFERENT BACKGROUND THAT YOU MIGHT END UP COMPARING MICE THAT HAVE VASTLY DIFFERENT NK GENE COMPLEXES BUT WE CONTROL THAT BY COMPARING IT TO MICE THAT HAVE THE SAME NK COMPLEX AS THE KNOCK OUTS WHICH IS FROM B-6. HE'S SHOULD BE A PERFECTLY GOOD COMPARISON AND WE REALLY SEE NO CHANGE IN DISEASE INCIDENCE IN EITHER FEMALES OR IN MALES. WE ALSO LOOKED AT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE MODEL OF TYPE 1 DIABETES, IN THE LAB, TRANSGENIC LEVEL AND WE DEPARTMENT SEE ANY CONTROL FOR NKG2 D EITHER. SO THEN WE LOOK AT, E AND WE HERE THE NEWS WAS MORE INTERESTING, BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN EVIDENCE FROM GENETIC LINKAGE OF NKG2 D, AND EAE IS A MOUSE MODEL THAT DISEASE. AND IT WAS A PARTIAL AND FAIRLY MODEST PHENOTYPE AND IT'S LESS WHEN WE LIMITED THE DISEASE BY USING A LOW CONCENTRATION OF THE ANTIGEN THAT INITIATES THE DISEASE, THE MOCK PEPTIDE, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A LOWER SEVERITY OF THE DISEASE IN THE KNOCKOUT MICE, BY THE WAY, THE GENE IS CALLED KLRK 1. THAT'S THE GENE. THERE WAS A LOWER SEVERITY OF THE DISEASE IN THE KNOCK OUTS THAN THE WILD-TYPES. AND THIS IS JUST 2 DIFFERENT EXPERIMENTS. HOWEVER, IT'S A RELATIVELY MODEST EFFECT AND WE ONLY SAW IT UNDER LIMITING CONDITIONS. WHEN WE USE THE NORMAL DOSE OF PEPTIDE COME IS ABOUT 5 TIMES HIGHER, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY PHENOTYPE. NEVERTHELESS, THIS MAY BE--MAY PLAY A ROLE UNDER SOME CONDITIONS. SO IT WAS REALLY IN THE--WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE A TYPE 2 MODEL OF DIABETES, AND THE ASSOCIATED METABOLIC DISEASE ANDAT LO SKEROSEIS WHERE WE'VE SEEN A REALLY, A STRIKING PHENOTYPE AND THIS WORK WAS DONE WITH NAJONG AT PENN STATE UNIVERSITY AND HIS STUDENT IS ACTUALLY A FORMER POST DOCK IN MY LAB BUT HE MADE THE INITIAL OBSERVATIONS HERE AND THEN WE COLLABORATE WIDE HIM TO DISCO MANY OF THE--DO MANY OF THE FOLLOW UP EXPERIMENTS IN HIS LAB AND I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THEM HERE. THERE WAS WORK HERE SO I'M ADMITTING THAT HERE AND ACKNOWLEDGING IT HERE. AND THIS IS WHAT--THIS IS A MODEL OF WHERE WITH WHERE WE WERE ORIGINALLY FOCUSING ONAT LO SKEROSEIS BUT IT'S IN METABOLIC DISEASE, IT'S BASICALLY MICE WITH VERY HIGH CHOLESTEROL BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MUTATION, AND FED EYE HIGH FAT DIET, THEY DEVELOPED METABOLIC DISEASE, TYPE 2 DIABETES AND ATHEROSCLEROSIS AND THE NOTION IS THAT THE OXIDIZED LIPITTEDS AND OTHER METABOLIC PRODUCTS IN THESE CONDITIONS LEAD TO INFLAMMATION AND SO CALLED VICIOUS CIRCLE OF INFLAMMATION BETWEEN THE ARTERYS AND MANY ORGANS INCLUDING LIVER THAT LEADS ULTIMATELY TO GREAT DEAL OF PATHOLOGY, ACCUMULATION OF MACROPHAGES AND THEATAT LO SCLERATTIC PLAQUES AND ATHEROSCLEROSIS, MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT DISEASE THAN I DO. BUT NEVERTHELESS, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I FOUND HERE. SO TO LOOK AT NKG2 D,--SO THE FIRST INDICATION THERE MIGHT BE A ROLE OF THIS IN THE DISEASE CAME FROM NOS DISCOVERY THAT THE--A SOLUBLE VERSION OF THE--1 OF THE HUMAN NKG2 D CALLED MYC A WAS ELEVATE INDEED THE SERUM OF THE TYPE 2 DIABETES PATIENTS COMPARED TO HEALTHY CONTROLS. AND THAT SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE SHEDDING OF THE LIGAND IN MY OPINION STILL UNCLEAR, IT'S KNOWN THAT IT'S SHED, BUT IT WAS CERTAINLY AN INDICATION THAT LIGANDS WERE EXPRESSED AT HIGH LEVELS IN THE DISEASE AND THAT LED US TO PURSUE THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT WAS PLAYING A ROLE IN THE MOUSE MODEL. SO WE--WE LOOKED AT APOE KNOCKOUT MICE AS I MENTIONED. THESE ARE THE HIGH CHOLESTEROL MICE. THEY'RE FED A WESTERN DISCIPLINARY EXPET WE ASK WHETHER NKG2 D LIGANDS ARE EXPRESSED IN THE ATHLOSCLEROTIC PLAQUES AND WE FOUND THAT ALL THE 3 LIGANDS WERE ALL ELEVATED AT THE MRNA LEVEL COMPARED TO PLAQUE FREE AORTIC ARCHS AND THAT SUGGESTS THE POSSIBILITY THAT NKG2 D MIGHT BE PLAYING A ROLE THERE. SO THEN WE CROSSED, TO THE KNOCK OUTS AND WE COMPARE THE WILD-TYPES IN THE KNOCK OUTS AND THAT SHOWED SAMPLE DATA THAT THE WILD-TYPE MICE, YOU SEE ACCUMULATE ALL THIS PLAQUE, IN THE KNOCK OUTS NEED MUCH LESS AND THIS SUMMARIZES I LITTLE LESS AND IT'S QUITE A DRAMATIC PHENOTYPE MUCH LESS DISEASE IN THESE. NOW WE ALSO LOOKED AT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MODEL AND INSTEAD OF THE APV MODEL, THIS IS 1 WHICH ABNORMALITIES BROIGATES THE HIGH [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THESE ATHEROSCLEROSIS, WE ALSO I DON'T SHOW IT HERE BUT WE ALSO SHOW THERE'S MUCH LESS ATHEROSCLEROSIS IN THE 2 D KNOCK OUT BACKGROUND, BUT WE'RE ALSO CAPABLE IN THIS MODEL PARTICULAR TO SHOW THAT SIMPLY ADMINISTRATING THE NKG2 D ANTIBODY DURING THAT PERIOD CAUSED A MUCH LOWER INCIDENCE OF DISEASE SUGGESTING THAT AGAIN WE CAN EVEN BLOCK THE THERAPEUTIC POTENTIAL THERE. SO IN WITH THIS GENETIC EVIDENCE AND BLOCK AID EVIDENCE THAT THE NKG2 D PLAYS A ROLE IN THIS DISEASE. NOW I MENTIONED THERE WAS SOME VICIOUS CIRCLE BETWEEN THE ARTERYS AND LIVER INFLAMMATION AND SO WE INVESTIGATED LIVER INFLAMMATION IN THESE MICE AND ALSO EVIDENCE OF A WIDE SPREAD INFLAMMATION BY LOOKING AT SERUM CYTOKINES AND IT WAS QUITE STRIKE TAG THE AMOUNTS OF IL6 AND INTERFERON-GAMMA THAT YOU COULD MEASURE IN THE SERUM OF THESE MICE WAS DRAMATICALLY LOWER IN MICE THAT LACKED NKG2 D AND THAT LIVER ENZYMES, THERE'S ELEVATED LIVER ENZYMES IN THESE APOE MICE, IN THE WESTERN DIET THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE KNOCKOUT MICE. AND THEN FINALLY, A STRIKING DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF IMMUNE CELLS, THIS IS THE ELEVATED LEVEL IN THE NK CELLS, NKG2 D KNOCK OUTS AND THE APE. AND THESE ARE REDUCED DRAMATICALLY. WE SEE IN FACT A REDUCTION IN THE SERUM CHOLESTEROL, STILL HIGHLY ELEVATED COMPARED TO WHAT I'M SURE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, IN THIS MODEL THEY GET EXTREMELY HIGH LEVELS OF CHOLESTEROL, BUT IN THE KNOCK OUTS WE SEE, WE SEE A MUCH REDUCED LEVEL, WE REEE DUCED LEVEL AND WE EVEN SEE A REDUCED LEVEL OF GLUCOSE SUGGESTING THE DIABETES IS SOMEWHAT LESSEN SAID IN THIS CONDITION. SO IN TERMS OF THE MECHANISM, I THINK WE DON'T KNOW THE COMPLETE ANSWER BUT I'LL--BY ANY MEANS BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE SUSPECT IS GOING ON. THE THERE'S PUBLISHED EVIDENCE THAT SOME OF THESE METABOLITES LIKE OXIDIZED LOW DENSITY LIPOPROTEINS CAN IN FACT ACTIVATE MACROPHAGES AND OTHER CELLS IN VITRO AND IN FACT THROUGH TOLL RECEPTORS. AND SO, WE--WE SUSPECT THAT THIS MAY BE OPERATIVE HERE AND MAY SERVE TO INDUCE EXPRESSION OF LIGANDS ON MACROPHAGES OR DENDRITIC CELLS OF SOME TYPE. AND WE DO, SEE SOME INDICATION OF THAT, ALTHOUGH I WON'T--IT'S NOT DRAMATIC BUT IF WE SIMPLY TREAT MACROPHAGES INVITRO, WITH GLUE MARIOUSICATION END PRODUCTS WE SEE INDUCTION OF THESE CELLS INVITRO. AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN CERTAINLY SHOW THAT THE MACROPHAGES IN THE LIVER ARE ACTIVATED WANT IT'S INTRACELLULAR CYTOKINE STAINING SHOWING LOTS OF IL6 POSITIVE MACK WOPHAGES BUT INTERESTINGLY THERE'S NO REDUCTION IN THE PERCENTAGE OF ACTIVATED CELLS, IN THE KNOCK OUTS BECAUSE WE THINK THIS STEP IS INDEPENDENT OF NKG2 D, BUT ACCORDING TO THE MODEL, THE INTERACTION OF THESE LIGANDS WITH CELLS, NKCELLS AND T-CELLS AND WE'RE NOT AGAIN SURE, WHICH ARE MOST IMPORTANT YET, LEADS TO AN AMPPLIFICATION STEP AND RECRUITMENT STEP WHERE YOU INCREASE THE NUMBER OF IMMUNE CELLS IN THE LOCAL TISSUE, AND THIS LEADS TO MUCH GREATER INFLAMMATION CONSISTENT WITH THAT, AS I'VE SAID WE SEE MUCH LESS, MANY FEWER IMMUNE CELLS IN THE LESIONS IN THE NKG2 D KNOCK OUT AND IN FACT LOOKING AT NKT SELLS WEEE A MUCH LOWER DEGREE OF PROJECTION NEURONS OR PIONS TANIOUS NKT CELL ACTIVATION IN THE--OF THE CELLS THAT THERE ARE IN THE KNOCK OUTS COMPARED TO WILD-TYPES SO THAT'S OUR GOING HYPOTHESIS FOR HOW THIS MIGHT WORK. SO LET ME SUMMARIZE WHAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT THESE PATHOLOGIC REACTIONS THAT WE SEE NO EFFECT OF THE KNOCK OUT IN TYPE 1 DIABETES MODELS. WE SEE A MODEST EFFECT IN THE EACE MODEL BUT ONLY UNDER LIMITING CONDITIONS BUT THEY SEE A SUBSTANTIAL EFFECT IN THE METABOLIC DISEASE ATHEROSCLEROSIS MODEL. HOW DOES IT WORK, YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT SURE, BUT WE SUGGEST THAT INFECTIONS, TRAUMA ABNORMAL METABOLITES AND OTHER DISSTRESSED TISSUE THAT MAY BE AG GRI INTERSTATED BY FACTORS PROMOTES EXPRESSION AND APPROPRIATELY AND THESE MAY THEN TRIGGER OR AT LEAST NOT NECESSARILY TRIGGER THE DISEASE BUT MAY AMPLIFY OTHER INFLAMMATION EVENTS THAT ARE ONGOING, WE THINK THEREFORE THAT UNDERSTANDING HOW LIGANDS ARE REGULATED IS IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF NKG2 D, NOT ONLY IN INFLAMMATORY DISEASE BUT ALSO AS A START WIDE IN CANCER AS WELL. SO LETNY TELL YOU ABOUT OUR WORK IN THAT AREA, NEXT. SO THIS HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING SET OF INTEREST IN THE LAB, HOW DISEASE ASSOCIATED STRESS, EITHER ASSOCIATED WITH CANCER OR WITH INFECTIONS OR IN THIS CASE WITH OTHER DISEASE STATES CAN INDUCE NKD2 G LIGANDS AND PROMOTE EFFECTS SUCH AS ELIMINATION OF TUMORS AND I MENTIONED INFLAMMATION, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE JUST IN THIS 1 KIND OF UGLY SLIDE, A LOT OF THINGS AND THEN GO BACK THROUGH A FEW, A FEW EXAMPLES OF OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AND SHOW YOU NEW DATA ON THIS BUT IF THIS IS THE BIOGENESIS OF NKD2 G LIGANDS, ET CETERA, WE FIND EVIDENCE FOR REGULATION OF LIGAND EXPRESSION AT EVERY LEVEL OF BIOGENESIS, TRANSCRIPTION, I'LL TELL YOU NEW DATA ON THAT, WOES 5 TAR TRANSLATION BUT WE SUSPECT A ROLE AS WELL AS WELL, AT THE LEVEL OF RNA TURNOVER, BY ANOTHER STRESS PATHWAY AND AT THE LEVEL OF PROTEIN TURNOVER BY YET ANOTHER STRESS PATHWAY. SO LET ME SUMMARIZE SOME OF THAT WORK IN A BIT MORE DETAIL. SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS WORK, WE WERE INTERESTED IN HOW LIGAND EXPRESSION MIGHT BE COORDINATED WITH THE PROGRESSION OF TUMOR GENESIS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS A SO CALLED VOCAL GRAM SUMMARIZING THE STEPS IN TUMOR GENESIS FROM INITIAL MUTATIONS AND GATE KEEPER TUMOR SUPPRESSORS OR ONCA GENES THAT LEAD TO INAPPROPRIATE PROLIFERATION OF THE CELLS AND THIS IS THOUGHT TO, YOU KNOW TRIGGER BY POSSIBLY 2 PATHWAYS, BY INCURRING DNA DAMAGE IN THESE RAPIDLY REPLICATING CELLS OR BY THE ACTIVATION OF THE P19 R-TUMOR SUPPRESSOR THAT THESE LEAD THEN TO EXPRESSION OF THE KEY TUMOR SUPPRESSOR, PARTICULARLY P53 WHICH CAN RESULT IN CELL CYCLE ARREST OR PILOT PROJECTITOSEIN OF THE TUMORS BUT OF COURSE TUMORS CAN ACCUMULATE P53 AND ADVANCE YAWBTD THAT AND OF COURSE THERE'S MANY OTHER CHANGES THAT MAY ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, SO WE FOCUSED ON THE ROLE OF THE DNA DAMAGE RESPONSE AND I'LL BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THAT WORK SINCE IT'S--WELL, SINCE SOME OF ITS PUBLISHED AND I'M NOT QUITE HAVING ENOUGH DATA TALK IN DETAIL ABOUT THE REST OF THE DATA AND THEN WE'VE ALSO FOUND EVIDENCE FOR THE ROLE OF THESE DIFFERENT PATHWAYS, THAT ALL WOULD BE EXPECTED TO OCCUR IN THE CONTEXT OF CANCER. SO, LET ME SUMMARIZE THE DNA DAMAGE RESPONSE, THIS WAS WORK DONE BY, AND BASICALLY THE STRATEGY WAS TO START WITH RELATIVELY NORMAL CELLS AND ASK WHETHER WITH THE DAMAGING AGENTS, OR ANY KIND OF STRESS, THEY UPREGULATE THE NKG2 D LIGANDS, THE AGENTS WERE PARTICULARLY APT AT INDUCING NKG2 D LIGAND O SINGLE THE FIBROBLASTS AND CULTURE AND OTHER TYPES OF STRESS WERE NOT GOOD @ IT IN THIS CONTEXT AND WE IMPLICATED THE ATR CAIN CAIN--KINASEIS, AND THESE ARE ALSO LEADING TO P53 ACTIVATION. THESE ACTIVATE A CASCADE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR CELL CYCLE ARREST AND INDUCTION OF DNA REPAIR FUNCTIONS AND AS WE NOW SHOW INDUCTION OF NKG2 D LIGANDS. THIS SHOWS 1 OF MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WE DID THIS EXPERIMENT OF KNOCKING DOWN IN THIS CASE, THE EXPRESSION OF ATM IN A TUMOR CELL LINE AND WE COULD SHOW IN THIS CASE, THAT THE CONSITTATIVE EXPRESSION OF RAY 1 ON THIS TUMOR CELL LINE DEPENDS ON ATM ACTIVITY AND THIS IS ACTIVATE INDEED THIS CELL LINE AND OTHER ATM LINE ITS PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE. THESE 2 KINASEIS RESPOND TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DNA DAMAGE. SO WE COULD SEE IT BOTH INTERNAL AUDIT DUCED DNA WHERE WE ACTUALLY INDUCED DNA DAMAGE PURPOSEFULLY BUT ALSO IN TUMOR CELLS WHICH ARE KNOWN TO BE SUBJECT TO ENDOGENOUS DNA DAMAGE AND HAVE MANY CASES CONSITTATIVE ACTIVATION OF THE DNA DAMAGE RESPONSE. SO WE KIND OF LIKE THIS RESULT BECAUSE THE DNA DAMAGE RESPONSE HAD ALREADY BEEN IMPLICATED AS A BARRIER IN TUMOR GENESIS THAT THIS IS 1, YET ANOTHER WAY IT COULD IMPOSE A BARRIER BY EXPRESSING IMMUNE CELLS COULD SEE AND COME AND ELIM NAT THE TUMORS. NOW HOW DOES IT WORK, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO SHOW YOU THIS DATA BUT WE--WE FOUND THAT IN FACT, IT ACTS NOT BY INDUCING TRANSCRIPTION FOR EXAMPLE, BUT IT ACTS BY STABILIZING THE MESSENGER RTHIS,A BY PREVENTING RNA TURN OR WHICH IS OTHERWISE QUITE RAPID BY THE MESSENGER RNA, AND AND THIS HAS SHOWN EVIDENCE AND IRTHEIR AND THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE THOSE HAD SUGGESTED THAT THE TOLL RECEPTOR STIMULATION COULD ENHANCE NKG2 D LIGAND EXPRESSION AND THIS MAY BE A LINKAGE BETWEEN HOW CANCER INDUCES LIGANDS AND HOW INFECTION K'S INDUCE DISCIPLINARY GANDS THROUGH THIS INNATE SENSE OR IRTHEIR, AND WE'RE STILL NOT SURE HOW THERE MUST BE INTERMEDIATE STEPS IN HERE IN TERMS OF HOW IT REGULATES MRNA TURNOVER. SO THAT JUST SUMMARIZES WHAT I MENTION THAD IT'S ALREADY WELL KNOWN, OF COURSE THE TLRs AND NLRs AND INFECTIONS FOR EXAMPLE CAN ALSO INDUCE RF3 AND I MENTIONED THE RESULTS ON OXIDIZED LDL, POETIC TENTSIALLY INDUCING THE LIGANDS THAT MAY ALSO WORK THROUGH A SIMILAR MECHANISM. SO WHAT ABOUT TRANSCRIPTION AND TRANSLATION? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY VERY LITTLE IS KNOWN ABOUT HOW THE GENES ARE REGULATED AND WHAT KINDS OF STRESS INDUCES IT AND THERE'S 2 RELATED LINES OF EVIDENCE THAT I WANT TO MENTION. 1 CAME FROM ANALYZING THE INDUCTION OF NKG2 D LIGANDS AND AN INFECTED CELL. SO THIS WAS A MOUSE THAT A MEGALOVIRUS INFECTIONS WHERE THE NKG2 D IS INDUCED. WUBEFORE I MENTION THAT, LET ME JUST POINT OUT THAT THE PI 3 KINASE PATHWAY IS SHOWN HERE AND IT'S WELL KNOWN THAT IT'S ACTIVATED IN CANCER, YOU FREQUENTLY SEE MUTATIONS OR ACTIVATING--ACTIVATING MUTATIONS OR AMP PILOT PROJECTFICATION IN THE P-110 ALPHA SUBUNIT OF PI3 KINASE OR IN P-10 WHICH REGULATES THE PATHWAY OR AN AKT ASK PI3 KINASE IS A TARGET FOR SOME OF THE MODERN DRUGS THAT ARE RECENTLY BEING DEVELOPED FOR CANCER. SO WHAT MARIA TACKA YAMAHA A GRAD STUDENT SHOWED WAS THAT P1 ALPHA 10 INHIBITORS INHIBIT RAY 1 INFECT WIDE THE MEG LOW VIRUS, THE STORY WAS PUBLISHED, AND THAT LED US TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER IT HAD A ROLE IN CANCER CELLS AND INDEED IT SEEMS TO AND ANY OF SEVERAL TUMOR CELL LINES THAT EXPRESS THE LIGANDS CONSITTATIVELY INHIBITORS EVER PI3 CAIN ACE AND PARTICULARLY THE P110 ALPHA CAUSE REDUCED EXPRESSION OF CELL SURFACE, AND SO WE THINK THAT THE PI3 CAIN ACE HAS A ROLE AND IT TURNS OUT MANY VIRUSES HAVE PART OF THEIR LIFE CYCLES. SO THIS JUST SUMMARIZES THAT THERE, THERE'S WORK FROM THE LAB, BY MARIA TOKE I DON'T MEANA WHO'S A JOINT STUDENT WITH LAR. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK WE THINK AS WE MENTION THAT IT WORKS IN PART THROUGH INDUCING PROLIFERATION AND SUPPORTING PROLIFERATION OF THE CELL SPES MAY WORK BY PROTEIN TRANSLATION AND I THINK THE EVIDENCE FOR THIS IS STILL PRETTY WEAK SO WE STILL HAVE MUCH TO LEARN ABOUT EXACTLY HOW PI3 CAIN ICE AND HOW IT DOES IS HELP SUPPORT PROLIFERATION OF CELLS AND I'LL SHOW YOU EVIDENCE, PROLIFERATION ITSELF IS QUITE IMPORTANT FOR NKG2 D LIGANDS SO THIS IS WORK DONE BY A GRADUATE STUDENT IN THE LAB. JUST GRADUATED. SHE HAD FOUND QUITE SURPRISING TO US AT THE TIME THAT WHEN PRIMARY FIBROBLASTS ARE SIMPLY CULTURED INVITRO, FROM SAY TAIL TISSUE FROM AN ADULT ANIMAL OR FROM EARS OR THE PERO NEAL WALL THEY INDUCE LIGANDS IN CULTURE AND QUITE LEVELS IN FACT SO BY DAY 6, ALL THE CELLS ARE QUITE BRIGHT IN TERMS OF GRAY 1 EXPRESSION. THIS INDUCTION OF RAY 1 EXPRESSION CAN BE INHIBITED SHE FOUND BY ANYTHING THAT INICHITS PROLIFERATION OF THE CELLS AND WE'VE DONE THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT INHIBITORS OF PROLIFERATION. THIS SUGGESTED A POSSIBLE LINK. MORE OVER IF WE TOOK CELLS THAT HAD ALREADY INDUCED THE LIGANDS AND STARVED THEM OF SERUM WHICH CAUSE THEM TO STOP PROLIFERATING, WE INDUCE THE LIGANDS FROM THE CELL SURFACE AND THEN IF WE GIVE THEM THE SERUM BACK FOR A FEW DAYS THEY REEXPRESS IT, SO WE TOGGLE IT UP AND DOWN BY ASKING THE CELLS TO PROLIFERATE MORE OR LESS. THIS SPONTANEOUS RAY 1 INDUCTION IS IN FACT ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSCRIPTIONAL ACTIVATION, WE SY INDUCTION IN THESE CELLS AS WE CULTURE THEM FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND IF WE STARVE THE CELLS OF SERUM, WE SEE RAPID LOSS OF RAY 1 MESSAGE FROM THE CELLS. NOW, MANY PEOPLE, I AWIVE COMPLAP TO MY SUANTS I SEE MANY PAPERS WHERE STUDENTS SHOW RNAs OR ROOTS INDUCED AND IT GOES AWAY AND THEY CONCLUDE TRANSIPGZAL REGULATION, BUT YOU CAN GET THE SAME RESULT IF IT WAS SUBJECT TO REGULATION AT THE LEVEL OF RNA DEGRADATION. SO, TO SHOW THAT IT'S REGULATED AT THE LEVEL OF TRANSCRIPTION, IT'S REALLY NECESSARY TO DO ANOTHER ANOTHER EXPERIMENT, AND I DON'T HAVE TIME TO SUMMARIZE THIS BUT IT BASICALLY MEASURES THE RATE AT WHICH THE MRNA AS BEING LABELED AND BEING PRODUCED IN THE NUCLEUS, AND THAT'S A MEASURE OF TRANSCRIPTION. AND SHE WAS ABLE TO SHOW THAT YOU HIGH LEVELS OF TRANSCRIPTION AND THE ABSENCE, THE TRANSCRIPTION GOES DOWN AND IN THE CONTROL, CONTROL SAMPLES. SO, ARGUING THAT IN FACT THE REGULATION HERE IS THEA THE LEVEL OF TRANSCRIPTION. NOW TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, WE BASICALLY ASK THE QUESTION WELL, IF WE COULDN'T REALLY SEPARATE THE EXPRESSION FROM PROLIFERATION OF THE CELLS. , THIS SUBJECT REGULATE PROLIFERATION, AND AN IMPORTANT AND THOSE ARE KNOWN TO DIRECTLY REGULATE THE CELL CYCLE BY HOW WELL THIS COMES OUT BUT BY REGULATING PROTEINS INVOLVED IN NNA SYNTHESIS AND OTHER EVENTS IN TERMS OF CELL CYCLE ENTRY. THEY'RE--THERE'S 3 OF THEM THAT ARE--3 REDUNDANT EXAMPLES, WE HAVE 1, TWORKS AND 3, THAT ARE REDUNDANT FOR CONTROLLING PROLIFERATION OF CELLS IN CULTURE. AND SOMETIMES THESE FACTORS COOPERATE WITH NMYC IN THEIR FUNCTIONS AND REGULATED BY THE RETINAL BLASTOMA TUMOR SUPPRESSOR. SO, FIRST OF ALL EXAMINE THE GENE AND FOUND EVIDENCE THAT THE E2 F BINDING SITES IN THE PROMOTER OF THE GENE, SHE THEN SHOWED BY DOING A CHROMATIN IMMUNOPRECIPITATION ASSAY SHE COULD COAT-LIFE THAT THE E2 F1, 2, AND 3 ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAY 1 PROMOTER--RAE PROMOTER IN LIVING CELLS AND THERE WAS MORE ASSOCIATED IN PROLIFERATING CELLS AND IT WENT DOWN 3 OR SO, AND IT'S A 4 X TITRATION TYPE EXPERIMENT. SUGGESTING THAT E2 Fs WERE ASSOCIATE WIDE THE GENE, AND THERE WAS MORE ASSOCIATE WIDE THE GENE WHEN THE CELLS WERE PROLIFERATING THAN WHEN THEY WERE NOT. TRANSACTIVATEED RAE1, IF YOU TRANSDUCE THESE INTO CELLS AND LOOK AT EXPRESSION, THESE ARE OTHERWISE STARVED OF SERUM SO THEY DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FOR ENDOGENOUS PROLIFERATION. SHE COULD INDUCE, RAE 1 TRANSCRIPTION AS SIMILAR TO THE EXTENT THAT SHE COULD INDUCE A KNOWN TARGET FOR E-2 F GENES. FINELY SHE DEVELOPED A LUCIFERASE CONSTRUCT DRIVEN BY THE E2 F REASONNION AND THE RAY 1 PROMOTER CONTAINED THOSE SET SITES AND BY CO TRANSVECTING FOR E2 F1 SHE COULD SHOW ACTIVATES, IT ACTIVATES TRANSCRIPTION OF THE RAY 1 PROMOTER, BUT THAT APPROXIMATE YOU MUTATE BOTH OF THOSE E2 F SITES YOU ESSENTIALLY, HAVE YOU A STRONG REDUCTION IN E2 F1 TRANSCRIPTION. SO ALL THOSE TOGETHER MADE A STRONG ARGUMENT THAT E2 Fs WERE REGULATING TRANSCRIPTION OF THE RAY 1 GENES. SO RACE 1 GENES ARE REGULATED BY FACTORS THAT PROXIMALLY CONTROL PROLIFERATION. WE BEGAN TO ASK THE OBVIOUS QUESTION IS DO NORMAL PROLIFERATING CELLS IN VIVO UPREGULATE B-1 AND IT TURNED OUT THAT THE FIRST DESCRIPTION OF RAY 1 BY A JPS GROUP SOME YEARS AGO, DEMONSTRATED THE EXPRESSION IN THE EARLY EMBRYO. IN NORMAL EARLY EMBRYOS AND THEN IT PRETTY MUCH DISAPPEARED AROUND THE TIME OF BIRTH AND SO WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED, LOOKED IN FOR EXAMPLE, PROLIFERATING BRAIN CELLS BUT THERE'S AN INTENSE AMOUNT OF PROLIFERATION OCCURRING IN THE EARLY EMBRYO AND THE OTHER NICE THING ABOUT USING EMBRYONIC BRAIN CELL SYSTEM THEY IMMEDIATELY DISASSOCIATE WHEN YOU PUT THEM INTO THE TEST TUBE AND WE CAN EASILY DO FLOW CYTOMETRY ON THEM AND IT WAS TURNED OUT IT WAS EASY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY EXPRESS RACE 1, BUT AT THE READILY DETECTED BY FLOW AND ALSO WE COULD DETECT IT IN BY STAINING OF EMBRYONIC DAY 14 BRAIN SECTIONS. MOW WHAT WAS KIND OF SURPRISING WAS THAT BY DAY 18 OF GESTATION, THE STAINING HAD DISAPPEARED AND THAT WAS A LITTLE SURPRISING BECAUSE THE BRAIN DOESN'T STOP PROLIFERATING AT DAY 18 BUT IT DOES DECREASE. THIS IS A BRDU INCORPORATION EXPERIMENT TO LOOK AT DAY 14 OR 18, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S CONSIDERABLY LEAF PROLIFERATION AT 18. THERE'S SOME AND IT'S SURPRISING TO US THAT WE SEE DISAPPEARANCE OF RACE 1 AND WE EXPECT THAT MEANS A THRESH HOLD OR PROLIFERATION THAT'S NECESSARY TO INDUCE RACE 1 EXPRESSION. WELL WHAT ABOUT IN OTHER SCENARIOS OF PROLIFERATING CELLS WEY DECIDED TO LOOK AT SKIN WOUNDS SINCE WE KNEW THAT IT PROLIFERATE INDEED HEALING SKIN WOUNDS AND THIS IS AN EXPERIMENT LOOKING AT HEALING SKIN WOUND AND STAINING HERE IN RED FOR BRDU, INCORPORATION, SO, THAT TELLS YOU WHICH CELLS ARE PROLIFERATING AND IN THE EPIDERMIS HERE LABELED WITH THE E, CAN YOU SEE LOTS OF PROLIFERATING CELLS SO IN THE EPIDERMIS, KERO10 O SIGHTS IN THE EPIDERMAL LAYER AS THE TISSUE HEALS. SO WHAT SHE FOUND IS THAT IF YOU EXIZE SAMPLES OF THESE AND LOOK AT RACE 1 MESSAGE YOU SEE A PRETTY SHARP INCREASE IN RACE 1 TRANSCRIPTS THIS THIS HEALING SKID 1 TISSUE, COMPARED TO UNWOUNDED SKIN, DAY 0 AND MORE OVER BY STAINING SECTIONS AND IMPUNE O FLUORESCENCE YOU CAN SEE VERY NICE STAINING OF THE SECTIONS WITH ANTIRAY 1 EPSILON ANTIBODY IN THE HEALING WOUND AND A MUCH THINNER LEVEL OF STAINING IN THE NORMAL SKIN. SO IT SUGGESTED THAT EVEN IN THIS ADULT YOU ARE SEEING THE EXPRESSION OF OF RACE 1. IN THE BRAIN WE DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY NK CELLS SO IT'S HARD--WE'RE NOT CLAIMS THAT THE RACE 1 IS DOING ANYTHING IN THE EMBRYONIC BRAIN BUT THIS IS AN ADULT ANIMAL WHERE NK CELLS ARE PROMINENT AND OF COURSE THERE ARE MANY T-CELLS THAT ARE EXPRESSING THE LIGANDS YOU MIGHT EXPRESS TO HAVE A FUNCTION IN THIS HEALING, THESE HEALING SKIN WOUNDS. SO, THIS LED US BACK TO THINKING ABOUT GAMMADELTA T-CELLS BECAUSE A POPULATION OF THEM LIVES IN THE 69 AND WEND SCHECOLLEAGUES HAD SHOWN THAT EVIDENCE THAT THESE SUBSET OF GAMMADELTA CELLS THAT LIVE IN THE SKIN SEEM TO HAVE A ROLE IN WOUND HEALING AND THESE EXPERIMENTS BASICALLY HOLE PUNCHES ARE MADE IN THE SKIN OF MICE AND YOU FOLLOW THE RATE OF WHICH THE WOUNDS CLOSE AND THAT'S SHOWN HERE IN THE WILD-TYPE AND SHE FOUND EVIDENCE THAT TCR DELTA KNOCK OUT WHICH ANYTHING OUT ALL GAMMA T-CELLS THE RATE OF WOUND CLOSING WAS SLOWER SUGGESTING THAT GAMMADELTA CELLS PLAY A ROLE IN ACCELERATING WOUND HEALING IN THESE ANIMALS. MEAN WHILE MY FORMER STUDENT INVESTIGATED THESE T-CELLS IN THE SKIN. THESE SKIN GAMMADELTA T-CELLS INVITRO AND IN WENDY HAD ALREADY SHOWN THAT YOU CAN GET THESE T-CELLS TO KILL CULTURED KERRA 10 O SIGHTS BECAUSE PRESUMABLY THEY'RE STRESSED BY BEING IN CULTURE AND THAT THE--AND THE CULTURE KERATIN O SIGHTS WERE KILLED BY THEM IN CULT AND YOU ARE WE COULD CORROBORATE THAT. MIKE FOUND INTERESTINGLY HOWEVER, THAT THIS KILLING WAS COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON NKG2 D, IF WE LOOK TO T-CELLS FROM AN NKG2 D KNOCK OUT OR FROM OR IF WE PUT ADD THE NKG2 D ANTIBODIES WE INHIBITED THE KILLING COMPLETELY SO WE DON'T THINK THAT NKG2 D ALONE IS MEDIATE THANKSGIVING KILLING BUT THE EVIDENCE TOGETHER SUGGESTS THAT NKG2 D IS WORKING COOPERATIVELY WITH THE STIMULUS TO ACTIVATE THESE T-CELLS TO KILL, TO KILL THESE KERATIN O SIGHTS IN CULTURE AND SO HE WENT BACK AND SAID, THIS IS ALL TRUE, MAYBE NKG2 D HAS A ROLE IN WOUND HEALING AS WELL, AND SHE'S DONE THE EXPERIMENT--AND WHAT THEY FOUND WAS THAT IN THE NKG2 D KNOCK OUTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO HAVE COMPLETELY NORMAL NUMBERS OF SKIN BAMMA DELTA T-CELLS THIS COULD HAVE A ROLE IN PROMOTER WOUND HEALING REACTIONS SO LET ME JUST SUMMARIZE, THESE DATA ON REGULATION BY PROLIFERATIVE SIGNALS THAT BY THE ACTION OF E2 F, THE PROLIFERATIVE SIGNALS ACTIVATE TRANSCRIPTION OF THEM, THE LIGANDS THAT WE BELIEVE IN TUMOR CELLS THIS PROLIFERATIVE COORDINATION IS REGULATION BY OTHER STRESS SIGNAL SUCH AS DNA DAMAGE RESPONSE AND THE--AND OTHER PATHWAYS AND CANCER CELLS AND PROBABLY INFECTED CELLS THAT PROLIFERATING, AND INCLUDING EMBRYONIC CELLS IN SKIN WOUNDS AND EXPRESS, BASED ON WOUND HEALING, AND THE LIGAND INTERACTIONS ON THE 1 HAND TARGET CANCER CELLS AND INFECTED CELLS FOR ELEMINATION, BUT ALSO REGULATE TISSUE PROCESSES SUCH AS WOUND HEALING AND OTHER CONTEXT. OKAY. SO TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I TOLD BUT NKG2 D SUMMARIZE, THE RECENT DATA, THE TRANSCRIPTION REGULATED BY TRANSCRIPTION FACTORS AS A RESULT OF HYPER PROLIFERATION THAT PI3 CAIN ACE MAY REGULATE TRANSLATION OF INDIRECT EVIDENCE FOR TRANSLATIONAL ROLE, PI3 CAIN ACE IS KNOWN TO REGULATE TRANSLATION OF MANY GENES. THE DNA DAMAGE RESPONSE REGULATE THE TURNOVER THE RACE 1 AND MESSENGER RNAs AND WORK THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SHOW YOU 1 OF THE LIGANDS, MOLE 1 IN MICE IS REGULATED AS A PROTEIN TURNOVER LEVEL BITE THE HEAT SHOCK STRESS RESPONSE. AND SO, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE PATHWAYS WE THINK THAT PLAY A ROLE. IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES I WANT TO COME BACK TO CANCER AND MENTION SOME OTHER DATA THAT SUGGESTS HOW OTHER KINDS OF TUMOR BARRIERS TO TUMOR GROWTH MAY INTERACT WITH SIGNALS THAT INDUCE NKD2 G LIGANDS TO HELP PREVENT TUMORS. THIS IS A PAPER OF A COUPLE YEARS AGO NOW BY SCOTT LOW'S LAB AND WHAT HE AND OTHER VS SHOWN IS THAT, YOU KNOW IT'S KNOWN THAT TUMORS ARE THE INFLUENCED AND CAN SOMETIMES A STATE OF SENESCENS WHERE THEY STOP DRAWING AND THEY--RESINENT IN THE TISSUE FOR A WHILE AND THEY DISAPPEAR. IT WAS SHOWN IN THESE EXPERIMENTS THAT SIN ESTIMATE THAD ENS IS INDUCED BY THE P53 TUMOR SUPPRESSOR. SO WHAT THEY DID HERE WAS THEY TOOK NORMAL LIVER CELLS, THEY TRANSDUCED THEM WITH THE RETROVIRUS ENCODING ACTIVATED RAS, AND THEY TRANSDUCE WITH A REGULATED SH--SHRNA, BUT PUT THEM IN MICE TO PLAY TUMORS, AND YOU TURN IT ON BY ADDING O SILLIN. DOCKS, AND THEY SEE TUMOR REGRESSION, THAT'S SHOWN HERE. , AND STOP GROWING AND AND THIS SHOWS DISAPPEARANCE OF THE TUMOR CELLS SEEMS TO DEPEND ON THE IMMUNE CELLS, OR MACROPHAGES OR THE CESS ENS ESTIMATE THAD DISAPPEARS. NOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE NUTRIFILLS OR MACROPHAGES BUT THAT'S AN INTERESTING THING TO PURSUE. SO WE DECIDED TO ASK ABOUT, IT'S BEEN DOING THIS WORK. AND I SHOULD POINT OUT, FOCUS ON THE INNATE RESPONSE. WE USE RAG MICE TO ACHIEVE THE SAME OUTCOME WHEN WE CAM PAIR EITHER RAGS OR RAGS THAT LACK NKG 2 D AND WERE COMPLETED OF NK CELLS WITH AN ANTIBODY. AND WE DID EXACTLY THE SAME EXPERIMENT. WE INTRODUCED TUMORS THEY GO TAR 10 DAYS THROUGHOUT AND THEN WE TURN P53 ON AND WE ASK WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CONTROLS WE EXPECT THE TUMOR TO GO AWAY AND THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE KNOCK OUT. SO WHAT'LL EXPECTATIONS FOUND IS THAT WE COULD REPRODUCE WHO LOW HAD SHOWN, AND THIS DISAPPEARED WITH THIS RATE AND WHEN WE DEPLETED NK CELLS AND RAD, THEY DEPLETED AT A SLOWER RATE. SO IT ARGUES AGAIN THAT IT PLAYS A ROLE IN THE DEPLETION. INTERESTINGLY WITH AN NKG2 D KNOCK OUT HOST, WE GET THE SAME RESULT SUGGESTING THAT NKG2 D IS HELPING TO MEDIATE THIS SENESCENT TUMOR AND ALEX DID THIS EXPERIMENT BLOCKING THE ANTIBODY TO GET THE SAME RESULT. THE TUMORS BY THE WAY GROW AND BASICALLY THE WAY WE DO THIS EXPERIMENT WE LOAD THEM UP WITH LOTS OF TUMOR CELLS SO THE TUMORS ARE NOT GROWING AT DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT RATES IN THESE 3 SCENARIOS AND INITIALLY AND THAT'S TO--WE WANT TO AVOID DIFFERENCES BETWEEN COMPARING REALLY TINY TUMORS WITH REALLY LARGE TUMORS IN THE DIFFERENT CONTEXT. SO I MIGHT SAY WELL, MAYBE P53 INDUCES THE LIGANDS BUT WE DIDN'T THINK THAT NKG2 D; WE NEVER FOUND ANY EVIDENCE BUT THERE ARE SOME REPORTS OF THAT IN THE LAT RATTURE BUT IT'S RELATIVELY MODEST INDUCTION AND RELATIVELY SPORADIC. AND INDEED WE DON'T SEE MUCH EVIDENCE FOR IT HERE. WE'RE LOOKING HERE AT MINUS THIS--THIS IS DONE EXVIVO LOOKING AT TUMORS WITHOUT DOCK OR WITH DOCKS WE SEE THE TUMORS STILL GFP POSITIVE BECAUSE THE SHRNA ENCODES WE SEE RACE 1 EXPRESSION SIMILARLY AT DAY 4. AND BY DAY 7 IF ANYTHING THERE'S LESS RACE 1 WITH THE TUMORS AND * TO SCALE, AND THE P53 SCENARIO, LESS RAY 1 NOT MORE, AND INDEED WE LOOK AT LOTS OF DIFFERENT LIGANDS AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE A LOT OF THE ELIMINATION IS OCCURRING AROUND DAY 4 AND WE DON'T SEE MUCH DIFFERENCE IN RACE 1 OR CD155 WHICH IS AND THE MOLECULES ICAM 1 OR 2. THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCES BUT THEY'RE NOT DRAM THEICALLY DIFFERENT AND THE ADAPTER OF THE LIGAND FOR TRAILER, THE LIGAND PROFESS, WE SEE AGAIN NOT REALLY DRAMATIC DIFFERENCES SO WE DON'T THINK YOU CAN ASCRIBE THE DEPLETION OF THE SENESCENT CELLS TO INCREASED EXPRESSION OF THESE DIFFERENT TARGETING MOLECULES. AND IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK INVITRO AT THE SUSEPTIBILITY OF THESE CELLS, THIS IS DONE BY TURNING--ADDING DOX OR NOT, MAKING THE CELLS SIN ESTIMATE THADENT AND THEN COMPARING SENSITIVITY TO THE INVITRO. NEVERTHELESS, THE SENSITIVITY IN BOTH, P53 THAT'S BECAUSE THE TUMOR CELLS ALL EXPRESS, THEIR NK SENSITIVE AND NKG2 D PLAYS A BIG ROLE BUT P53 DOESN'T REGULATE THAT SENSITIVITY TO KILL IT. , AND THEY'RE SUSEPTIBLE, P53 INDUCTION ENHANCES NEITHER INDUCTION OF LIGANDS OR SUSEPTIBILITY TO NK CELLS, THE OTHER QUESTIONS ARE THE OTHER PROCESSES OPERATIVE IN THE P53 ION CONDITION THAT ENABLE NK CELLS TO ENABLE THESE CELLS. WHY ARE THEY ELIM NATTED BETTER? WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THE INFILTRATION OF LYMPHOCYTES AND NK CELL INTO THE TUMORS. SO IN THE P53 CONDITION, WE SEE MANY MORE IMMUNE CELLS INFILTRATING INTO THE TUMORS THAN IN THE P53 CONDITION. AND A BIGGER FRACTION OF THOSE INFILTRATING CELLS ARE NKCELLS. SO WE THINK IT'S THE ACTUAL RESILIENCE CRUITMENT OF THE CELLS THAT'S LARGELY DIFFERENT. NOW, THIS HARKENED BACK TO RESULTS FROM JUDY CAMP SPECIE AND OTHERS AND SHY DEFINED THIS SENESCENT PHENOTYPE THAT'S SENESCENT TUMORS AND OTHER CELLS IN THAT MATTER, BEGIN TO SECRETE A SERIES OF WHAT SHE CALLED OF FAJTORS THAT INDUCE A WHOLE SERIES OF PROCESSES IN SENESCENT TUMORS AND OTHERS TYPES OF SIN ESTIMATE THADENT SALs AND SHE DEFINES A GENE EXPRESSION PATTERN AND THE SIN ESTIMATE THADENT TUMORS AND FOUND MANY INTERESTING CYTOKINES AND CHEMO KIPES BEING INDUCED IN SENESCENT TUMORS AND SHE PROPOSE THAD MAY MIGHT BE INVOLVE INDEED IMMUNE CLEARANCE AND I THINK THAT'S CORRECT AND AMONG THE FACTORS THAT WE THINK ARE RELL VABT ARE THESE INDUCED CHEMOKINES, CXCL8, CCL3 AND 5 THAT MAY ALL BE INVOLVED IN RECRUITING IMMUNE CELLS INTO THE TUMORS. NOW YOU MIGHT ASK, IS SUSPICIOUS 53 DEPENDENT RECRUITMENT NKG2 D DEPENDENT AND WE THINK IT'S NOT MOSTLY NKG2 D DEPENDENT IN THE P53 CONDITION WE FIND LESS RICRUITMENT IN THE NKG2 D KNOCK OUTS THAN IN THE WILD-TYPES BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF RECRUITMENT, SO THE SENESCENT IMINIZATION IS LARGELY DEPENDENT BUT THE SUSEPTIBILITY OF THE CELLS IS NOT ENHANCED MUCH WE THINK THE ELIMINATION OF OF TUMORS ELIMINATE SIN ESTIMATE THADENT CELLS. I'M FINISHING HERE. EARLY IN TUMOR GENESIS AND INDUCE EXPRESSION OF NKG2 D LIGANDS AND THAT'S BY A POST TRANSCRIPTIONAL MECHANISM, AND PROLIFERATIVE SIGNALS, AND I SHOULD MENTION BY THE WAY THAT OTHER NKG 2 D LIGANDS WE LOOKED AT THEM ALL AND H60 ARE NOT INDUCED BY--NOT AT LEAST NOT NEARLY AS DRAMATICALLY INDUCED BY THE ARRAY 1 FAMILY SO NOT ALL LIGANDS ARE NECESSARILY SUSEPTIBILITY TO THIS TYPE OF REGULATION THAT THE PI-3 KINASE PATHWAY ACTIVATES INDUCES NKG2 D LIGANDS AND IT STABLE ICES 1 OF THE LIGAND ASTERISKS THE PROTEIN LEVEL, WE THINK THAT THE COLLECTION OF STRESSES ARE COORDINATED TO INDUCE SOME NKG2 D LIGANDS MAYBE A BAR CODE THAT THE COLLECTION OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF STRESSES AND PROLIFERATION AND OTHER EVENTS MAY WORK TOGETHER TO INDUCE LIGANDS OPERATING GLOBALLY MALLY IN THE MOST DANGEROUS TYPES OF CELLS LIKE CANCER CELLS AND FINALLY THE SIN ESTIMATE THAD ENS ASSOCIATED CELLS MAY FACILITATE NKG2 D ELIMINATION PROCESSS AND FINALLY THE PATHOLOGICAL CONDITIONS THAT EXIST IN METABOLIC DISEASE MAY TRIGGER NKG2 D AMPLIFICATION INDUCTION ANDATLER O SCLEROSIS. I'D LIKE TO END THERE AND THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR WORK AND I MENTIONED MOST OF THE PEOPLE AS I WENT ALONG AND THE POST DOCK IN THE LAB WHO KNOCKED OUT THE NKG-2 GENE AND MADE THOSE STUDIES EXPOBL TO THE ANALYSIS OF TUMOR GENESIS AND THE NKG2 D KNOCK OUTS, POST DOC WHEN SHOWED THE ROLE OF THE DNA DAMAGE RESPONSE. AKNEELA DID THE WORK ON THE SIN ESTIMATE THADENT CELLS I MENTIONED MIKE WANG DID WORK ON THE GAMMADELTA T CELLS AND ACTIVATING THOSE CELLS, WE HAVE A FORMER GRADUATE STUDENT WHO DID THE WORK ON PROLIFERATION AND THE LIGAND TRANSCRIPTION MARIA OTHER WORKS ON THE KINASE PATHWAY AND WE HAVE OUR COLLABORATOR THE ON THE DISEASE IFAT LO SCLEROSE AND I GUESS I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TELL BUT THE OTHER WORK IN THE LAB, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> SO, ASSUME YOU LOOKEDDA THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER PLACE THAT WEND SCHEOTHERS CELLS MAINTAINING THE BARRIER,. >> YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T--WITH WE'VE ONLY DONE--WE HAVEN'T DONE GOOD EXPERIMENTS LOOKING AT IT, IT'S BEEN ON THE LIST, BUT I WILL POINT OUT THAT THOM'S LAB ORIGINALLY REPORT THAD THE LIGANDS, HUMAN LIGANDS ARE EXPRESSED IN THE NORMAL GUT EPITHELIUM SO THAT MAY BE AN EXAMPLE FROM THESTST STUDIES OF THESE LIGANDS THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH IT, I THINK THE NOTION THERE IS THAT IT MIGHT BE INDUCED BY, YOU KNOW FLORA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IN FACT, IT MAY BE PROLIFERATION IS PLAYING A ROLE THERE AS WELL. >> AND IN TERMS OF YOUR IRF 1 STORY AND TRANSLATION AND RNA STABILITY, WHAT'S THE ROLE OF SORT OF AN INVERSE ROLE OF MICRORNASSIZE THAT INHIBITING THE MICRORNAs OR OTHER MECHANISM? >> I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT OBER MENDEL SON'S LAB HAS THE ROLE OF REGULATING HUMAN NKG2 D LIGANDS. WE HAVEN'T--WE REALEE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S MICRORNA REGULATED. WE JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. YOU KNOW WE CERTAINLY LOOKED FOR TARGETS AND DONE SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF EXPERIMENTS AND I ATTEND TO SUSPECT IT'S NOT INVOLVED BECAUSE THE--THE AMOUNT--RANGE OF REGULATION IS LARGER THAN 1 OFTEN SEES FOR MICRORNA REGULATION BUT WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE ROLE OF MICRO RNAs. THE ATHEROSCLEROSIS MODEL YOU'VE SHOWN THAT THE KNOCK OUT HAS A STRONG PROTECTIVE ROLE AND YOU COULD SEE THE SAME WHEN YOU BLOCK WITH ANTIBODIES RIGHT, BUT IN THE TYPE 1 DIABETES, YOU SHOW THAT THE KNOCK OUT HAS NO PARTICULAR EFFECT. THERE WAS-- >> IN THE TYPE 1 DIABETES. >> TYPE 1. >> THERE WAS A LENIER AND JEFF WHERE AT A BLOCK THE NKG2 D AND IF I REMEMBER THEY HAD A STRONG PROTECTIVE EFFECT. SO WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SYSTEMS OR HOW DO YOU TEST THE ANTIBODIES? >> WE HAVE DONE SOME EXPERIMENTS NOW LOOKING AT ANTIBODIES AND WE SHOW FAR DON'T SEE ANY CONTROLLER OF BANKING OF THE DISEASE--BLOCKING OF THE DISEASE. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE RESULTS ARE DIFFERENT. ALL I KNOW IS WE--THE KNOCK OUT EXPERIMENTS WE'VE DONE EXTENSIVELY AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING. THE ANTIBODY EXPERIMENTS, I WOULD SAY IS STILL PRELIMINARY BUT IT'S EXPERIMENTS WE HAVEN'T DONE MUCH AND I DON'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR THE DISCREPANCY. DIFFERENCES IN FLORA, THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AGGRESSIVE TUMOR CELLS, DO THEY EXPRESS RACE 1 AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN THE RACE 1 EXPRESS IN NORMAL PROLIFERATING SKIN CELLS? THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY SELECTION AGAINST IT, IT'S NOT THAT HIGHLY EXPRESSEDDA AT LEAST AT THE TIME--AT THE TIME WE EXTRACT THE TUMOR. THE PROBLEM OF COURSE IS THAT--I MEAN IT'S THERE AND WE CAN SEE IT. BUT, THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE EXPERIMENTS OF COURSE IS THAT YOU LOOK ONCE THE TUMOR IS A MASSIVE TUMOR, YOU'RE NOT--PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE RIGHT TIME WHEN THE IMMUNE SYSTEM MIGHT BE ACTING ON THE TUMOR WHICH WOULD BE MUCH EARLIER. SO WE--WE'VE FOR YEARS NOW BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT KIND OF TIME STUDY, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE REALLY VERY GOOD RESULTS ON THAT, I'M AFRAID. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THEY EXPRESS MORE NKG2 D LIGAND FIST THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, NO. >> IN SCOTT LOW'S EXPERIMENT, DISCIPLINARY BED CORRECTLY YOU EITHER DEPLETE NUTRIFELLS OR MACROPHAGES, YOU GET THE EQUIVALENT RESULT ON THE NKCELLS. >> YES, HE REPORT THAD. >> HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO REPEAT THAT. >> DOES THAT SUGGEST YOU THROW THE PART OF THE INTERACTION FOR IT TO WORK? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. HE DIDN'T REALLY PROVE THEY'RE ACTS IN THE SAME PATHWAY, IF YOU WILL. AND HE NEVER COMBINED THE 3, AND WE HAVEN'T--WE HAVEN'T REPEAT THAD PART OF THE STORY. SO, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE ACTING COOPERATIVELY WITH NKG2 D IN A COOPERATIVELY, OR SEPARATE MODE OF ELIMINATION OR NOT, BUT IF YOU DEPLETED ALL 3, THE SIN ESTIMATE THADENT THINGS WOULD GROW A BIT. >> BUT WITH YOUR IMMUNE INFILTRATION YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF MACROPHAGES AND NUTRIFILLS IN ADDITION TO NK CELLS. >> WE SEE A LOT OF THOSE, WE DO SEE A LOT OF MYELOID CELLS. IT MAY PLAY A ROLE, I'M NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH THAT. >> TWO QUESTIONS. 1 IS THAT THE T-CELL PEOPLE SHOULD ASK THIS QUESTION, DID YOU LOOK AT THE CD8 T-CELL PHENOTYPE IN YOUR KNOCKOUT MICE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT THE AUTOIMMUNE MILD AUTOIMMUNE IN THE EACE THAT COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE EXTRA LESS ACTIVE CD8 T-CELLS, PARTICULARLY AUTOREACTIVE T-CELLS? SECOND QUESTION, IS THAT, WHAT STARTS OFF RAE 1? IT'S UBIQUITOUS. RAE 1 EXPRESSION IS CONTROLLED RATHER TIGHT AND SO THERE MUST BE SOME GENES THAT NEGAATIVELY SUPPRESS EXPRESSION TRANSCRIPTION. SO YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS CD8 THEAV CELL PHENOTYPE. >> WE'VE BEEN SPENDING EFFORT NOW LOOKING AT CD8 T-CELL FUNCTION USING THE KNOCK OUTS AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE SURPRISINGLY NORMAL IN ASSAYS OF YOU KNOW VIRUS RESPONSES TO VIRUSES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING IN THE CONTEXT OF COURSE OF TUMORS AND I WOULD SAY WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY CLEAR RESULTS SO I CAN'T TELL WHAT YOU'S WRONG WITH THE CD8S. IN OUR VERY EARLY EXPERIMENTS IN TUMORS DID SUGGEST THAT NKG2 D PLAYS AN AMPLIFYING ROLE IN T-CELL RECEPT SPONSES BUT IT'S KNOTS NECESSARY FOR CDT-CELL ACTIVATION IN SOME CONTEXT INFECTION ON FOR EXAMPLE OR THE LIKE. YOU KNOW WHETHER IT HAS ANY--WHETHER THE EACE RESULTS ARE EXPLAINED BY DEFECTIVE CD8 FUNCTION, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT CELLS IT'S ACTING IN AND IN THAT MODEL SO I JUST CAN'T DIAGONAL YOU THE ANSWER TO THAT. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD CONDITIONAL KNOCK OUT AND IF WE DID, THERE IT'S STILL NOT THAT EASY TO TARGET THINGS TO NK CELLS. BECAUSE THERE'S JUST--JUST APPEARING IN GOOD CREE MICE FOR NK CELLS. WE DON'T HAVE A CONDITIONAL KNOCK OUT IN EITHER CASE. YOUR SECOND QUESTION WAS ON WHETHER HOW RAE 1 IS PREVENTED? >> IT'S SURPRISING WE TAKE THESE NORMAL CELLS AND WE GET THEM TO PROLIFERATE AND THEY TURN ON RAE 1. SO I'M NOT SURE IN ALL CELL TYPES THERE ARE OTHER MECHANISMS TO SUPPRESS RAE 1 EXPRESSION. THAT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION, SINCE REALLY BACKED BY OUR RESULTS. OT OTHER HAND, THERE ARE--YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ALTHOUGH I THINK WE'RE GOING BACK TO REVISIT THIS NOW. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S REALLY STRONG NKT 2 D LIGAND IN THE CONTEXT OF LYMPHOCYTES FOR EXAMPLE WHICH WOULD CAUSE A REAL DISASTER. AND SO, I DO ACTUALLY LIKE THE IDEA THAT AT LEAST IN CERTAIN CELL TYPES AND CERTAIN CONTEXT, THERE WOULD? FACT BE AS YOU SUGGEST WAYS TO REPRESS RAE 1 EXPRESSION. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. >> SO I GUESS 1 OF THE PLAGUING THEY THINKS DAVID IS THAT THE HUMAN AND THE MOUSE ARE SO DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THEIR NKD2 D LIGANDS-- >> ARE THEY? [LAUGHTER] >> THOU THEY'RE DIFFERENTIALLY EXPRESSED AND SO FORTH, SO THE QUESTION IS THE MOUSE HAS AN ARRAY OF THINGS THAT SERVE AS LIGAND BUS THE INDUCTION OR EXPRESSION SEEMS TO BE SO DIFFERENT. >> WHAT'S OF THE EVIDENCE FROM-- >> IN TERMS OF GENOTOXIC STRESS VERSES HEAT SHOCK STRESS, ET CETERA SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE THE PARALLELS THAT YOU SEE WITH YOU HUMAN LIGANDS VERSES THE ANTIPARALLELS. >> WELL, THE GENOTOXIC STRESS HAS BEEN SHOWN IN BOTH MOUSE AND HUMAN FOR SURE. THAT SEEMS TO BE OPERATIVE THERE IN BOTH CASES. YOU KNOW HEAT SHOCK STRESS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S--WE DON'T SEE MUCH EVIDENCE FOR ROLE, TOM HAD REPORTED THAT MYC'S ARE REGULATED TRANSCRIPTIONALLY, AND IT'S TRUE THAT WE DON'T FIND THAT BUT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY 1S WHO DON'T FIND THAT SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW I DON'T REALLY--I'M NOT REALLY CONVINCE TREAD'S DISCI'S CREPANCY THERE. THE PROLIFERATION RESULTS I DON'T THINK THERE'S REASON TO BELIEVE THAT'S NOT TRUE FOR SOME OF THE HUMAN LIGANDS. THE ULBPs AND THE SUB60 GROUPS ARE PRETTY SIMILAR IN MOST OTHER RESECTS SO I DON'T REALLY EXPECT THEM TO BE THAT DIFFERENT. I GUESS WE'LL SEE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.