WELCOME EVERYBODY TO FIRSTLY A OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE DO HERE AT STONY BROOK RELATED TO DNA DAMAGE AND REPAIR. TOXICOLOGY. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE NUMBER OF VEINS HERE IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE IN A SHORT TIME TO HAVE A SEPARATE PAGE FOR EVERYBODY, SO I JUST PARAPHRASED WHAT PEOPLE WORK ON AND THOSE OF YOU WHO FEEL CHEATED IN THE WAY I'VE DONE IT, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. BUT IN ANY CASE, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT CARLOS DE LOS SANTOS WORKS ON BECAUSE HE'S OUR SPEAKER TODAY. WE'LL FILL YOU IN A LOT BETTER WAY THAN I COULD. OUR COLLEAGUE DANIEL -- WORKS ON DNA REPLICATION AND REPAIR MECHANISMS IN MITOCHONDRIAL DNA AND HIS LAB AND MY LAB HAD COLLABORATED ON SOME STUDIES RELATED TO THIS. IN MY OWN LAB, WE'VE BEEN INTERESTED FOR A LONG TIME IN VARIOUS TYPES OF OXIDATED DNA DAMAGE, PARTICULARLY HOW THIS IS PROCESSED BY DECISION DNA REPAIR PROTEIN. SEMI SEPARATELY FROM THAT ALSO FOR A LONG TIME QUITE A LOT OF INTEREST IN CELLULAR RESPONSES TO OXIDATIVE STRESS AND THE INDUCIBLE DEFENSES THAT ARE MEDIATED AS PART OF THAT. AND I PUT AN ASTERISK BY MY NAME NOT BECAUSE IT'S ANYTHING SPECIAL BY ME EXCEPT THAT AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE, I WAS RECRUITED THROUGH AN INTERDISCIPLINARY CONSORTIUM HERE AT STIN STONY BROOK FOR INTERDISCIPLINARY ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH WHICH IS A MECHANISM TO TRY AND MEDIATE ACROSS THE CAMPUS IN ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS STUDIES OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND FOR MY OWN RECRUITMENT AND THAT OF ME GEAL GEAL -- MIGUEL GAWRS SAW O GARCIA ON THE IMPACT OF HUMAN HEALTH. MIGUEL IS SITTING HERE IN THE ROOM HE STUDIES REPLICATION FIDELITY. FOR EXAMPLE WHEN HE WAS POST DOC WITH TOM -- SOLVED THE STRUCTURE OF DNA POLYMERASE SO HE'S A PROTEIN STRUCTURAL BIOLOGIST AND ALSO QUITE INTERESTED IN PROTEINS THAT REGULATE THE GENE EXPRESSION IN MITOCHONDRIA. ARTHUR -- I THINK PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY IN THIS SYSTEM KNOWS REASONABLY WELL ALREADY ARTHUR'S BEEN WORKING FOR MANY YEARS ON MUTAGENESIS AND MOLECULAR CARCINOGENESIS AND IN RECENT YEARS HAS REALLY BEEN AN EMBLEMATIC STUDY OF A COMPOUND CALLED -- ACID WHICH IS FOUND IN SOME WEEDS AND CONTAMINATES VARIOUS AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS AND THIS GIVES RISE TO SOMETHING THAT INITIALLY WAS KNOWN AS -- TURNS OUT TO BE DUE TO A DNA DAMAGING AGENT THAT'S PRODUCED BY THESE AND HE AND HIS GROUP AND COLLABORATORS HAVE CHARACTERIZED THE TUMORS AND NEXT ROW, NEPHROTIC ISSUE THAT ARISE FROM EXPOSURE TO THIS AGENT. THEY'VE DONE THE STRUCTURE OF THE LESIONS IN DNA AND HOW THEY PROVOKE MUTAGENESIS AND HOW THEY ARE REMADE. AND AS A RESULT OF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE STRUCTURAL BIOLOGY OF THOSE LESIONS AND THE REPAIR SYSTEM THAT PROCESS THIS. MS. JONES AND CHARLES HAVE BEEN LONG MAIN STAYS OF STUDIES -- EXCUSE ME -- >> LOOKS LIKE HE'S TRYING TO PUSH CONTENT. >> I'M NOT PUSHING ANYTHING. >> LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE DUAL NOTES. >> I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HEARD THAT BUT BRIEF INTERRUPTION. IN ANY CASE, FRANCIS JOHNSON AND CHARLES HAVE LONG BEEN MAIN STAYS OF GENETIC COX CALL AT STONY BROOK. CHARLES IS AN ORGANIC CHEMIST STILL GOING STRONG AT NEARLY 82 YEARS OLD I THINK IT IS EXAMINATIONS PRODUCES SPECIFIC DEVELOPED SYNTHESIS METHODS TO PRODUCE SPECIFIC DNA LATIONS. SO THIS IS THE GUY THAT INVENTED THE TETRO -- THAT'S SO WIDELY USED AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR REGULAR BASIC SITES IN HUGE VARIETY OF STUDIES AND MANY LABORATORIES. HIS COLLEAGUE CHARLES -- TWO OF THEM ARE PHYSICALLY LOCATED IN THE CHEMISTRY DEPARTMENT BUT THEY ARE ALSO PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PHARMACOLOGICAL SCIENCES. CHARLES IS INTERESTED IN THE ANALYSIS OF MOLECULES THAT CONTAIN DNA DAMAGE BY MASS SPECT TOM TREE AND LIQUID CHROMATOGRAPHY AND HE SEES TO IT THAT THE NUCLEOTIDES ARE PREPARED ARE OF THE HIGHEST COLLEAGUE. OUR COLLEAGUE ORLANDO WHO IS PHYSICALLY WITH US AT THE MOMENT, HE'S BEEN ON SABBATICAL IN -- PAPERS ON DNA INTRASTRAND CROSS LINKS AND THE SPECIFIC MECHANISMS AND EFFECTS THAT THEY PROVOKE. THERE ARE SOME INDEPENDENTLY FUNDED JUNIOR INVESTIGATORS WHO ARE RESEARCH FACULTY HERE. -- IS A CLOSE COLLEAGUE OF ARTHUR. SHE WORKS ON STUDIES RELATED THAT TO -- ACID, THE MECHANISM OF DNA DAMAGE AND THE PRODUCTION OF RENAL DISEASE AS A RESULT OF THAT AGENT. MARK LOOKEN IS ASSOCIATED WITH CARLOS DE LOS SANTOS AND CARLOS WILL HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT WHAT HE DOES BUT HE'S HEAVILY INVOLVED IN MAKING AND ANALYZING THESE DNA LESIONS. -- HAS DONE A LOT OF NICE WORK ON POLYMERASE AND IS CONTINUING THAT WORK. HE'S AN ASSOCIATE OF THE -- LABORATORY. -- JUST JOINED US HERE FROM BROOK HAVEN LABORATORY AND SHE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN RADIATION BIOLOGY AND IS DOING SOME STUDIES OF HEAVY IONS -- >> SOMEBODY HAS TO MUTE. WE SEE YOU NOW, PLEASE MUTE. WE ARE MOVING AHEAD WITH THIS PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. JOINED US HE WORKS ON RADIATION BIOLOGY AND PARTICULARLY EXPRESSION OF A1 PROTEIN AND SHE'S DONE SOME VARIOUS STUDIES ON THE SPECIFIC EFFECTS OF HEAVY IONS WHICH ARE -- HYALIN YUR ENERGY TRANSFER AGENTS THAT PRODUCE HEAVILY CLUSTERED LESIONS IN DNA. THOMAS/I/IS YOIS YOIFS -- THAT'S REALLY A NUTSHELL OF WHAT IS REALLY A GOOD CRITICAL MASS OF PEOPLE HERE WORKING AT STONY BROOK ON ISSUES RELATED TO GENETIC TOXICOLOGY AND DNA REPAIR. AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CARLOS. >> ALL RIGHT, THIS IS STEVEN LLOYD. WE'RE STILL GETTING THE FEED ONLY OF YOU AND WE ARE HEARING BRUCE BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY OF THE FEED FROM STONY BROOK. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE AMISS. >> OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU CALL THE BRIDGE PEOPLE. THEY'RE HAVING A SIMILAR PROBLEM IN MISTBERG. CALL 301-345-1967. >> STONY BROOK UNIVERSITY IS A HUGE CAMPUS, YOU HAVE THESE AERIAL VIEW OF IT WHERE THE MEDICAL CAMPUS ON THE FOREGROUND AND BEHIND HERE ALL THIS IS STONY BROOK CAMPUS AND WE ARE DIVIDED -- BUT STILL -- >> BE SURE TO MUTE, PLEASE. >> LET ME CONTINUE -- THIS IS THE MEDICAL CAMPUS AND CLOISECLOSE UP VIEW -- THE HUGE BLACK BUILDINGS ARE THE -- THESE TWO CHRISTMAS BOXES ARE THE CLINICAL DEPARTMENT OF THE MEDICAL SCHOOL AND THESE ARE LOCATED, THIS IS A SMALL TOWER IS THE BASIC SCIENCE TOWER WITH PHARMACOLOGY LOCATE IN THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH FLOOR AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE VERY GOOD EYESIGHT I SEE CAN BRUCE SITTING HERE ON THE EIGHTH FLOOR PREPARING THE SLIDE AT HE JUST SHOWED. SO LET ME GET OVER WITH THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT NOW SO NOBODY GETS UPSET SNL UNLESS IT'S A LEAD OF PEOPLE ON MY LAB AND TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THE NAMES OF TANYA -- MONICA ESPECIALLY TANYA WHO HAS BEEN INSTRUMENT ON WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TODAY. AND HE WAS WITH ME AND NOW HE HAS A MORE INDEPENDENT POSITION AND ALSO HE HAS BEEN A KEY PLAYER THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU. SO LET ME GO DIRECTLY TO THE ISSUE VERY VERY DNA SPHER OF WHAT CELLS MEAN WOULD BE TO SAY THAT -- THE RATE OF DNA DAMAGE IS SMALL BUT SMALLER THAN THE RATE -- WE HAVE TO TALK -- THE FACT WE HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT RATE IMPLIES AN ECONOMIC -- ANDOLOGY SO IMPLIES THAT YOU CANNOT EVER AVOID DNA DAMAGE. THE DNA DAMAGE IS HIGHER THAN THE REPAIR RATE AND WHEN THE BALANCE HAS A BOTTOM LINE, YOU HAVE SEVERAL REPAIR DISEASE AND NORMAL PROCESSES LIKE AGING OR A TERRIBLE DISEASE LIKE CANCER THAT SOMEONE SEES AS THE ULTIMATE AGING MECHANISM. SO WHAT ARE THE TYPE OF DAMAGES? WELL PLENTY ALL OVER FROM EXOGENOUS AND ENDOGENOUS SOURCES AND FROM LARGE -- TO VERY VERY SMALL PREACTIVE OXYGEN SPECIES. ALL THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO DAMAGE DNA CAN PRODUCE DOUBLE STAND BREAK SINGLE STRAND BREAK, SINGLE BASE DAMAGES -- CROSS LINK AND A VERY SPECIFIC REGULATION INDUCED DAMAGE THAT ARE WHOLE CLUSTER LESIONS THAT TOUCH IT ON ITSELF. WHERE ARE THE REPAIR MECHANISMS, FIVE MECHANISMS THESE APPLY JUST FOR REPLICATION SO ACTUALLY FOUR MECHANISMS THAT TRY TO CORRECT DNA DAMAGE. AND TODAY WE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON SOME NUCLEOTIDE REPAIR. WHAT ARE THE GENERAL -- LET ME POINT TO THESE. WHAT ARE THE GENERAL LESIONS THAT ARE SUBSTRATES. WELL VERY VERY DIFFERENT CHEMICAL -- FROM VERY LARGE AROMATIC CARBONS -- AGENT, SOME UV DAMAGE, THE FAMOUS CYCLO GLUE TAIN -- AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT -- THAT CAN FROM ENDOGENOUS OXIDATIVE LESIONS -- THAT COMES FROM LIPIDS OXIDATION. LET ME EMPHASIZE HERE THAT ARE OFFICIALLY REPAIRED BY BASIC LESION REPAIR AND THE NOOK LACE CAN BE REPAIRED BY NUCLEOTIDE EXCISION REPAIR. HOW DOES IT WORK. NUCLEOTIDE EXCISION REPAIR CAME INTO BIG PRUDENTIAL, ONE -- BIG BRUNCH ONE ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSCRIPTION AND THE SIGNAL TO DO THE REPAIR COMES FROM POLYMERASE TALKING. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. I'M GOING TO BE TALKING MOSTLY ABOUT GENOMIC REPAIR. THE IDEA IS THAT SOME SORT OF SOME DAMAGE ON A BASE OR SUGAR OR BREAK OF THIS DNA, WE PRODUCE A HELIX DISTORTION AND THAT IS ENOUGH FOR XPC -- 3B CONFLICTS TO LOAD INTO THE LESION AND INITIATE THE RESPONSE. AND CAL CONCOMITANT WITH THE HELIX -- CAUSES A DECREASE IN THE STABL STABILITY OF THE DOUBLE HELIX. DNA OF NUCLEOTIDE ADHESION REPAIR THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BE TAUBING ABOUT. WE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSING MOSTLY ON DNA STUDIES AND WHAT ARE THE FACTORS THAT XTC -- DONATION. FOUR YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO THE GROUP OF MEMORIAL SLOAN-KETTERING COME OUT WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE -- OF THE XPC3B IN COMPLEX WITH THE -- CONTAINING DNA MOLECULE AND THEY RARELY MAKE A IS HE VERY STRONG CASE FOR THE MECHANISM THAT WE SHOW BEFORE EXPLAINING WHY ANY AND THE REASON IS THAT DOES NOT CONTACT THE LESION DIRECTLY, THE LESION IS EXPOSED AFTER THE COMPLEX BINDING TO THE DAMAGED DNA AND XPC HAS -- SOMEHOW ACCOMMODATE THE DAMAGED DNA BETWEEN THEM FLIPPING OUT TO UNDAMAGED NUCLEOTIDES MAKING CONTACT MOSTLY WITH THE PHOSPHATE OF THE DNA. ONCE AGAIN, THE FACT THAT THE LESION IS EXPOSED TO THIS AND EXPLAIN WHY DIFFERENT STRUCTURES CAN BE NICELY RECOGNIZED BY GENOMICS REPAIR. SO OUR TAKE ON THIS WAS DIFFERENT WAS TO SAY WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM DNA LESIONS THAT ARE TO GLOBAL GENOMIC REPAIR. I'M GOING TO BE TALKING TODAY ABOUT TWO STORIES. ONE ABOUT DNA LESION -- AMINO GROUP THAT ACTUALLY RESIST ANY RECOGNITION, AND THE OTHER FORM -- ON THE N6 AMINO GROUP OF THE OXY AWE DEAN SEEN. LET ME GO TO THE STORY OF -- WAS ACTUALLY DISCOVERED OR WAS A USE FOR THE RESEARCH FIELD IN DNA REPAIR -- FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS. THIS IS THE TWO AMINO FLUORINE INITIALLY A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT USED AS AN INSECTICIDE ON THE COUNTRY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND THE TWO FLUORINE ACTUALLY ENVIRONMENTAL COMPOUND THAT STILL IS IN THE ENVIRONMENT ARE FORTUNATELY VERY VERY LOW CONCENTRATIONS. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS COMPOUNDS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ONE GETS REDUCED TO THE -- AMINO GROUP OF THE TWO AMINO FLUORINE GETS OX DIESED TO THE SAME INTERMEDIATE THAT UPON FURTHER OXIDATION CAN REALLY PRODUCE ULTIMATE CARCINO GENERA CARCINOGEN THAT RESECRETARIES WITH DNA -- HAVE VERY VERY CLEAR BIOLOGICAL IMPLICATIONS. TWO TYPES OF -- AT THE CA POSITION AND THEY MAY BE -- AT THE AMINO GROUP OR NOT -- AND THOSE ARE THE FAMOUS AF -- AAFDGR. WE KNEW A LOT ABOUT THESE AND THOSE HAVE BEEN USED TO EXPLAIN MOST OF THE CARCINOGENIC PROPERTIES AND BIOLOGICAL COMPLEX OF MYSELF FOR TUSKITY. BUT THEY ALSO FORM A SMALL PRODUCT THAT IS AN ADULT AT THE AMINO GROUP OF PUTTING THE OX AWE DEAN SEEN STILL IN TACT NOT ATTACHED TO THE BASE AND IN THIS CASE U.S.-RUSSIA AS -- ONE IS MULTIGENIC IN BACTERIA HAS BEEN SUGGESTED FROM IN VITRO THAT IS ALSO -- AND IN VIVO STORIES HAVE CONFIRMED THAT. THESE LESIONS STILL NEED FULL INVESTIGATION. BUT WE ARE INTERESTED IN THIS LESION BECAUSE WE CAME ACROSS TO A REPORT THAT SHOWS THAT THIS MINOR PRODUCT OF AAS IS DNA LESION. AND IN THIS CASE, THESE TWO, THIS IS THE, THESE TWO ARE THE DG -- PERSISTS FOR MORE THAN TEN MONTHS -- AFTER ADMINISTRATION OF NITRO FLUORINE. AFTER 10 MONTHS THE RAT WAS NOT ABLE -- ADULTS. LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT WE DO HERE. WE DETERMINE FRACTURE OF DAMAGE DNA AND DECIDE STEPS THAT WE CAN SEE TO HAVE A GOOD DIDN'T NMENTD AMOUNTED SAMPLE FOR MARKETIZATION TO DO THE ANALYTICAL WORK OF GETTING CONSTRAINT FOR MOLECULAR DYNAMICS SIMULATIONS THAT WILL SATISFY THE NMR CONSTRAINT AND CHARACTERISTIC OF THE NMR SPECTRUM. AND AT THE END TO REALLY VALIDATE -- IF WE SOLVE HERE WE COME BACK AND REITERATE A MORAL DOSE. AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF -- THAT WE USE THAT ARE CALLED NOE EXPERIMENTS AND WITH THAT, WE CAN MAKE A LOT OF SENSE HOW THE DNA IS. WE DID IT IN -- SOLVENT AND THIS IS ON THE -- CONTAINING HERE AT POSITION C THE AAF -- AND THIS SORT OF NOE WORK AS WE CALL IT TELLS YOU THAT THE BASIS ARE PRETTY WELL START AND WE DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR PERTURBATION. WE DO THE SIMILAR EXPERIMENT IN H2O BUT IN THIS CASE WE FOCUS ON THE EXCHANGE OF THE AMINO PROTEIN BECAUSE WE CAN EASILY IDENTIFY WHICH ARE FORMED AND WHAT SORT OF ALIGNMENT THEY HAVE OR -- ONLY THEY ARE NOT FORMED ONCE AGAIN IN THE CASE OF THE -- THAT WE ARE STUDYING HERE -- WERE OBSERVED. WHEN WE DID THE REFINEMENT AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY BE ABLE TO CLOSE YOUR EYES -- THIS IS WHAT WE OBTAINED WHERE THE ADULT HERE AT THE AAF IS SHOWN IN GREEN IS LOCATED IN THE MINOR GROUP OF THE DNA AND THAT'S NOT THE HELIX ALMOST AT ANY POSITION. AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THAT HERE IS FROM THE MAJOR GROUP YOU DON'T SEE ANY TRACE OF THE LESION FROM HERE ON THE CENTER OF THE DUPLEX. THAT'S NOT LEAVE ANY OPENING THAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH 90 DEGREES. THAT'S THE MINOR GROUP OF THE DNA. THIS IS THE MAJOR GROUP THAT IS DONE HOW SHALLOWER THAT YOU WILL NORMALLY SEE AND HERE IN GREEN YOU CAN START SEEING PART OF THE GROUP OF THE ADULT. THIS IS A MINOR GROUP VIEW OF THE AAF -- VERY VERY WELL PASSED AGAINST THE TWO STRANDS OF THE DNA AND I KNOW THAT IT DID RETURN TO SEE HOW IT LOOKS LIKE. THOSE ARE THE START OF THE MAIN PERTURBATIONS THAT YOU CAN OBTAIN AT THE LESION SIDE IS THAT THE WITNESSED OF THE MINOR GROUP GETS REDUCED, 5.9 IS THE NORMAL WITNESSED, DIFFERENT SIMULATIONS BETWEEN 2 AND 4.7, DIFFERENT PLACES. THAT THAT OF THE MINOR GROUP ALSO GOES INCREASES FROM THE NORMAL 4.6 TO 5.6 TO 7.2. THAT'S WHY I SHOW THE MAJOR GROUP LOOKS SO SHALLOW. AND THEN THEY ARE CHANGING THE DAMAGED SIDE -- AND WE MAKE SURE THE EXPOSED SURFACE OF THE ADULT AND REALLY IS ONLY 7 PEOPLE AND THAT CORRESPONDS TO THE EDGE OF THE ADULT WHERE WE HAVE THE -- DIRECTLY LOOKING AT IT. ANOTHER POSSIBILITY THAT YOU HAVE DURING ANY MATH IS NOT ONLY ARE YOU SEEING THE SOLUTION STRUCTURE AND YOU CAN OBSERVE DYNAMIC BEHAVIOR BUT ALSO YOU CAN SEE INDIVIDUALS HOW STABLE THEY ARE. AND THE WAY THAT USES THAT, YOU LOOK AT THE AMINO -- YOU STUDY THE TEMPERATURE AND YOU SEE WHICH ONE DISAPPEARED FIRST AND WHICH ORDER THEY DISAPPEARED. AND THE EXPERIMENT IS THAT WHEN THE BASE ARE OPEN, IT'S EXPOSED TO THE SOLVEN SOLVENT IT CHANGES WITH WATER AND YOU LOSE THE ANIMAL SIGNAL. THE MESSAGE OF THIS EXPERIENCE IS THAT HIGH TEMPERATURE STILL YOU ARE SEEING THAT THE ONLY BASE OR ONLY TRACE OF BAY FORMATION IS LOCATED AT THE DAMAGED SITE. THIS BELONGS TO THE ADOPTED WARNING. AND THIS IS QUITE UNUSUAL BECAUSE NORMALLY WHAT YOU SEE ON DAMAGE DNA IS WHEN YOU DO THIS SORT OF ANIMAL MELTING, THE DUPLEX MELTS FROM THE END TOWARD THE CENTER WHERE THE LESION IS AND AT THE SAME TIME FROM THE LESION TOWARDS THE END AND THE REASON OF THAT IS BECAUSE DNA LESIONS DISRUPTED DIMINISH THE STABILITY OF THE -- HERE WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. AND WE CONFIRMED THAT BECAUSE WE WENT AHEAD AND USED MELTING PROFILE AND FORMAL ANALYSIS WE COME OUT THAT THE AAF MODIFIED DUPLEX WAS MORE STABLE, MORE STABLE THAT THE CONTROL GROUP WITH THE -- SEQUENCE AND THE DELTA G OF DUPLEX FORMATION WAS LOWER AND THE DELTA DELTA G THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS ABOUT 2.6 -- THAT MEANS THIS LESION ACTUALLY SEPARATE THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE INSTEAD OF STABILIZING IT. SO THE CONCLUSIONS THAT WE DRAW FROM HERE WAS THAT THESE DUPLEX IS A REGULAR HELIX BELONGS FROM THE FAMILY WITH -- ALL THROUGHOUT. THE LESION INCREASES THE DUPLEX TURNALTERMINALS STUDY, THE AAF DECIDES ON THE MINOR GROUP WITHOUT RECRUITING OUT OF THE HELIX BOUNDARIES AND FOR THAT, THE MINOR GROUP IS HOW SHIFTING THE AAF FROM WATER EXPOSURE. THEN WITH THE HELP OF ORLANDO LABORATORY ON ONE OF HIS STUDENTS, WE TRIED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT INCISION, THE IN VITRO INCISION OF THOSE LESIONS. AND WE ARE PROUD, VERY PROUD OF THIS -- BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY NOT THE WORK THAT WE NORMALLY DO BUT I GUESS THE MESSAGE HERE IS QUITE CLEAR. LINE TWO IS ONE THREE BUT IT'S A WELL-KNOWN SUBSTRATE FOR ANY -- AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT HAVE FORMED. WHILE THREE, FOUR AND FIVE ARE THREE DIFFERENT HELIX CELLS A WHOLE SELECTION PREPARATION IN NONE OF THEM WE CAN SEE THE SAME PRODUCTS FORMED. THAT MEANS THE PLASMID CONTAINING A SINGLE DG INTO AA -- HAS NOT BEEN INSIDE. SO HOW THIS RESULT PUTS US ON THE GENERAL SCHEME, HOW ANY WRECKER ANYTHINRECOGNITION WORKS. WELL IT MAKES ENTIRE SENSE AND REALLY SUPPORT THIS SCHEME BECAUSE THE LESION IS NOT PERTURBING, THERE'S NO DNA BENDING, GENERALLY ONE OF THE PREFERRED IN BULK PERTURBATION FOR ANY RECOGNITION AND THERE'S NO STABILIZATION OF THE DNA DUPLEX. SO EXPLAIN FREELY VERY NICELY WHY XPC 3D KIND OF LOAD INTO THE DNA LESION. ORBIT THINKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE BUT WHAT THIS TELLING US THAT IS THE -- HOW TO OPEN THE HELIX AND ACCOMMODATE THE UNDAMAGED RES RESIDUE TO PUT IN CONTACT WITH THE PROTEIN CELL TO SEPARATE THE TWO STRANDS OF THE DNA. SO FROM HERE THEN WE SAY OKAY-THIS IS WHAT THE HYPOTHESES THAT WE SAW AT THAT TIME AND WE PROPOSED TO THE NIH ACTUALLY TO THE NIHS TO STUDY THIS HYPOTHESES. AND THAT IS THAT SOME HAVE THE -- THAT WILL CAUSE STRUCTURE PRESERVATION AND CAUSE -- AS A RESULT OF THAT, THEY WILLOW BAY GLOBAL GENOMIC -- CELLULAR DNA AND ARE LIKELY TO HAVE A PREVALENT ROLE IN CHEMICAL MUTE GENESIS AND DISEASE. AND TO IDENTIFY THAT, LET ME COMPARE THIS, THE AAF STRUCTURE HERE WITH THE STRUCTURE OF -- INTO DG, AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS WORK IN -- WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE POSSIBILITY OF PARKING THE TWO STRANDS AGAINST THE -- IN THAT SENSE ONE PHASE OF THE -- IS EXPOSED TO WATER. AND THERE IS MUCH LESS COMPACTION HERE. CLEARLY HERE THERE IS NO WATER MOLECULE GETTING IN CONTACT WITH THE AAF MOLECULE. OOPS. WELL, SORRY I'M LOOKING LIKE THAT BUT WHAT THIS TRANSPARENCY THAT I SHOULD SAY, LET ME FIND AN AAF -- GIVE ME A SECOND. WHAT I WAS SHOWING THERE IS THAT ONE CHARACTERISTIC OF THIS AAF ADULT IS FIRST THAT THIS CARBON -- IS AN SPA2 HYBRIDIZATION. THIS THAT MEANS THIS IS ON THE SAME PLANE AND THIS RANGE IS NOT LIKE IT IS IN THE CASE OF -- IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HYPOTHESIZE THAT FROM THE -- FOLLOW THE CURVATURE OF THE DNA HELIX SO IT KIND OF ACCOMMODATES AND IMPACTS MUCH BETTER THAN THE DNA STRUCTURE. SO BACK TO THE PLACE WHERE I LOST MY SLIDE. I IDENTIFIED ANOTHER LESION -- COMPOUND OF IMPORTANCE THAT IS CALLED -- THAT SOMEHOW WILL BE ABLE TO MUCH WHAT WE SAW WAS GOING TO BE THE TOPOLOGY NEEDED FOR THIS ADULT TO BE RESISTENT. IN THE SENSE THAT THIS LESION -- BY AAF AND THE BAY LESION SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BUT STILL A LEAGUE THAT FOLLOWS THE CURVATURE OF THE HELIX. REGARDING -- IS PRESENT IN -- THIS ENGINE AND PARTICULAR MATTER IN THE AIR. IT'S A STRONG MAMMALIAN MUTAGEN AND IT'S ALSO A IS HE VERY STRONG BACTERIAL MUTAGEN -- INDUCES MITRAL NEW CALCULATED -- NOOK LAID HAS BEEN ATTRIBUTED TO LUNG CANCER IN HUMANS MAINLY IN COAL PATIENCE IN ENGLAND INITIALLY AND ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THE NIAHS ISSUED A COUPLE REPORTS OF THE IMMUNLOGICAL LINK OF LUNG CANCER IN COAL MINORS WORK HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. IT'S A GOOD CANDIDATE TO BE RESPONSIBLE ARE FOR THAT. WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ACTIVATION. THIS SORT OF ACTIVATION WAS AGAIN IMPLIED REDUCTION OF THE NITRO GROUP TO -- A COMPOUND BUT IT'S FOR THE ACTIVATION BY PHOSPHORYLATION -- AND FORMS -- DERIVATIVE AND CREATES A POSITIVE CHARGE THAT CAN APPEAR IN THE NITROGEN OR CAN APPEAR HERE IN THIS CARBON ACTUALLY IS THE LOOK ALIKE. IN THIS CASE LIKE AT AAFK CAN REACT TO FORMS -- OR ADULTS ON THE PERIPHERAL AMINO GROUP. ONE IN THIS CASE THE ONE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHOW RIGHT NOW ARE ALSO IN THE CASE OF THE OX OH ADENOSINE CAN BE IDENTIFIED. BUT DIFFERENT THE AAF WAS A LOT OF WORK ON THAT, WE HAVE TO START IN THIS CASE MUCH EARLIER PREPARING THIS AND THAT HAS BEEN THE GROUP THAT WERE MOSTLY OF NOT LOOKING WHERE HE INCORPORATED INTO THE DNA AND WE HAVE CREATED ENOUGH MATERIALS OF THE ADULT TO BE STUDIED. AND WE INTRODUCE IN THIS CASE IN A SELF COMPLEMENTARY DUPLEX HERE AT POSITION FIVE AND WE DETERMINED THE ANIMAL -- GOING TO SHOW ALL THE DETAILS EXACTLY BY THE SAME WAY THAT WE DID BEFORE. IN THIS CASE, ONCE AGAIN THE PROTEIN IN THIS MINOR GROUP THAT'S NOT REALLY THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE AND IS PROTECTED ALTHOUGH THE PARKING HERE THAT WE SEE ON THE ADULT MAY NOT BE AS STRONG AS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE CASE OF THE AAF. WHAT IS IMPORTANT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE BY NOW IS THAT THE DUPLEX IS ALSO A HELIX STABILIZING LESION AND ITS LESION CAUSE AN STABILIZATION OF THE DNA DUPLEX OF ABOUT 1.5 KILO -- UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THE AGAIN, I LOST THIS. WE DON'T HAVE THE TRANSPARENCY SHOWING THE NAR REPAIR -- BECAUSE WE ARE PREPARING THE PLASMA TO PERFORM THAT RESULT. BUT WE ARE QUITE CONFIDENT THAT THE CHANCES IT WILL BE A SIMILAR RESULT THAN AAF WILL BE PRESENT. THERE ARE SOME REPORTS INDEPENDENT OF OUR WORK SAYING THAT AMINO -- REMAINS IN LIVER OF RATS FOR TWO MONTHS IN DELIVERANCE -- OF THE ANIMAL. SO THIS AGAIN STILL GOES QUITE WELL WITH THE MOBILE BECAUSE WHATEVER IS HERE THAT DO NOT CAUSE PERTURBATION WERE ENOUGH TO PRODUCE THE STABILIZATION OF THE HELIX IS GOING TO BE SUPER, IS GOING TO BE RESISTENT TO ANY RECOGNITION. AND IN OUR POINT OF VIEW, ANY STRUCTURE THAT IS ABLE TO HAVE THE CURVATURE THAT FOLLOWED THE DNA AND IS ALSO GOING TO BE ATTACHED BY SP SQUARE HYBRIDIZATION TO THE DA -- OR IT'S GOING TO BE TO BE A CANDIDATE TO STABILIZE THE HELIX. FORTUNATELY EVEN THOUGH WE LOOK, WE COULD NOT FIND MANY MORE ENVIRONMENTAL TAL TOXINS THAT MEET THIS TOPOLOGY. SO EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN PREPARE MORE OF THESE CHEMICALLY, THE RELEVANCE FOR HUMAN HEALTH I GUESS IS SO FAR IS GOING TO BE UNKNOWN AND ONLY THESE TWO GUYS ARE GOING TO BE OF CERTAIN -- SO LET ME NOW SWITCH GEARS RAPIDLY TO -- THAT THIS IS THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH -- THIS IS THE NATURAL PRODUCT, THAT IS THE PLANT AND THAT GROUP PREFERRED BRIEFLY IS A VERY VERY IMPORTANT TOXIN, IT CAUSES THE NEPHRO TOXICITY -- ALSO BOTH AA1, AA STANDS FOR -- ONE AND TWO, THOSE DID HDEFER ON DIFFERENT MODIFICATIONS BUT BOTH OF THEM ARE GENO TOXIC CAUSING -- AND WE KNOW THAT AA -- FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THAT IS KNOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ACCIDENT HERE TOOK LARGE QUANTITIES OF -- HAS BEEN RECOVERED AND THOSE THEURMS WERE WERE -- TUMORS ITSELF WERE ANALYZED AND HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A METHOD. WELL NATIONAL TOXICOLOGY PROGRAM IS ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED HUMAN CARCINOGEN. SO THE ACTIVATION OF THIS GUY ON THE ACTION OF THE NITRO GROUP BUT IN THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY CLOSES TO -- THAT AFTER FURTHER ACTIVATION BY -- PHOSPHORYLATION -- THAT IN THIS CASE ONLY REACT AT THIS POSITION -- WITH THE PERIPHERAL AMINO GROUPS OF DG OR DA. THE GROUP JOINS THEM INTRODUCED THESE ON THIS METHOD NOT ONLY THE PRODUCTION BUT ALSO HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE DNA. AND WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT TO PREPARE LARGE AMOUNTS OF A DUPLICATE WE NEEDED IN THE LESION HERE IN THAT POSITION SIX. WE IDENTIFIED THE PRESENCE OF THE ADULT WAS UNIQUE AND THE OTHER SINGLE FORMATION. THE TYPE OF EXPERIMENT THAT WE DO SHOWED THAT THE STRUCTURE WAS QUITE REGULAR, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE WORSE THAN CHEMICAL -- I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT BUT WE ARE ABOUT T17 AND T17 WAS THE TIMING TO THE ADULT LESION. THE YE NOCI EXPERIMENT IN WATER -- THROUGHOUT THE DUPLEX WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LESION CONTAINING -- AND THIS SIGNAL HERE WOULD TRACE IT TO BE -- PROTON OF THE ADULT. PROTON OF THE ATOM. THIS IS HOW WE SHOWED THAT, HOW WE RULE OUT AND THIS IS THE SIGNAL THAT APPEARED CLOSE TO THE AMINO PROTON. WE DID A LOT OF WORK WITH THAT. WE WANTED NOT TO MAKE ANY MISTAKE, WE DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION REGARDING THE LESION PARTNER T17 SO WE WENT BACKWARDS AND WE PREPARED JUST A NORMAL TIMING WHEN HE SELECTIVELY -- ONE OF THE H5 PRIME PROTONS. SO WE WERE ABLE TO SIMPLIFY THE -- FOR ONLY ONE AND OBTAIN REALLY A THROW OF NOE DATA FOR THIS SINGLE MODIFICATION THAT REALLY WAS ABLE TO LOCK T17 IN POSITION. THIS IS A STRUCTURE OF THE ADULT. NOW WE ARE LOOKING HERE FROM THE MAJOR GROUP SIDE OF THE DUPLEX WITH T17 IS COMPLETELY EXCLUDED FROM THE HELIX UP HERE AT THE MAJOR GROUP AND IS THERE JUST TRYING TO PERHAPS SHOW SOME HYDROPHOBIC INTERACTION WITH THE ADULT ITSELF BUT NOTHING ELSE. IT HAS NO ELECTROSTATIC WITH ANY OTHER RESIDUE OF THE DUPLEX. THERE IS THE -- INSIDE OF THE DUPLEX AND VERY WELL STARTED BETWEEN THIS -- G16 AND THIS IS A TOP VIEW SHOWING THE HYDROPHOBIC OR THE STUCK INTERACTION THAT YOU NORMALLY SEE ON THE HELIX ON A LESION CONTAINING THEY SPARE ONCE AGAIN T17 HERE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PICTURE AND THE HELICAL STAT AND THOSE C5G18 AND C7 AND G16 AND THE INTERACTION HERE IS GOOD. WE DID ALSO THE THERMAL DYNAMIC STUDIES ON THAT AND FOR OUR SURPRISE BASED ON THE STRUCTURE THAT IS A LESION ACTUALLY THEY STABILIZED THE DUPLEX. NOT BY MUCH BUT ON THE SEQUENCE WE STARTED IT DOES IT BY 2.5 KILO CALORIE MOLE AND TWO ADDITIONAL SEQUENCES THAT WE STARTED AND THE REASON FOR THESE TWO IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED TO BE HOT SPOT FOR MUTATION ON P53 GENE AND WE WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT THAT ALSO IS STABILIZING. SO THE IDEA THAT PERHAPS WAS THE LESION THAT WAS GOING TO STABILIZE THE DUPLEX AND AVOID ANY RECOGNITION REALLY IS NOT SUPPORTED BY OUR -- STUDIES. IN SIMPLE SUMMARY OF WHAT WE SEE STRUCTURALLY ON THE LATIONS ROOTS THE STABILITY OF THE DUPLEX. THE STRUCTURE IS PUBLIS PUBLISH TURNED AT THE -- PERTURBEDLY LESION SIDE -- AND INSPITE OF THIS CHANGES THE DUPLEX RARELY SHOWS THE FORMATION BUT IS STABILIZE BY HYDROPHOBIC INTERACTION. SO THIS CREATES NOW A PROBLEM WITH THIS -- BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING NOW A LESION -- DUPLEX STRUCTURE AND REDUCES THE STABILITY AND WE WANTED TO SEE OKAY, GOOD XPC A CHART 23B LOAD INTO THIS SORT OF PERTURBATION. AND AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE PUBLISH RESULTS IN NE NOOK LLOYD RESEARCH HAS BEEN STUDIED THE GLOBAL RECOGNITION AND IN GENERAL RECOGNITION OF -- ACID. AND THE MESSAGE WAS THAT THE AVID WILL GO UP WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH CELLS THAT ARE DEFICIENT IN GLOBAL JEANNIEIC REPAIR. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT XPC CELLS THAT LACK GENOMIC REPAIR, THE OTHER -- ARE LOWER. THEY ARE RESISTENT TO THE RECOGNITION AND INCISIONS OF NAR AND BINDING ASSAY SHOW THAT THE NAR THAT XPC3B CANNOT BIND TO DNA CONTAINING THE HISTOLOGIC. SO LET ME CONCLUDE HERE WITH A COUPLE OF TWO POINTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE REGARDING THAT FIRST MORE OF THE ISSUE ARE NOT -- FIRST IDEA IS THAT THE RECOGNITION -- BY GLOBAL GENOMIC REPAIR SEEMS LESS EFFICIENT THAN INITIALLY THOUGHT BECAUSE WE ARE FINDING MORE STRUCTURAL MOTIF THAT ARE ABLE TO ESCAPE LOWER GENOMIC NER REPAIR AND THAT EMPHASIZE BECAUSE THOSE LESIONS WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY TCR. SO THE CARBON THAT WAS REALLY RECOGNIZED ALL THESE. WE ALSO IDENTIFIED THE TOPOLOGY OF DUPLICATE -- LESIONS AND WHATEVER YOU CAN SEE AN AROMATIC MAYITY THAT CONFORM INTO ADULTS AND HAVE A CURVATURE NEXT TO -- REGION THEN SUSPICIOUS THAT THE LATION IS GONE. THAT LATION I LARYTION IS LATION LESION AN D THEN GOING BACK TO THE MECHANISM RECOGNIZES THE LESION, WE CAN DO TWO THINGS. WE CAN INVOKE OF DUPLEX INSTABILITY, THERE SHOULD BE A STABILITY THRESHOLD. BEYOND THAT THE LESIONS ARE GOING TO BE PREPARED BY A RECOGNIZED BY XPC. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT THE STABILITY THRESHOLD YOU WILL HAVE WITH THE SIMILAR DUPLEX THERMAL DYNAMIC EFFECT SOME LESIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED AND SOME LESIONS ARE NOT GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED. SO WE SORT OF FAVOR MORE THAT THE PRESENCE OF OTHER FACTORS THAT NORMALLY ARE NOT EVIDENCE BECAUSE WHEN THE LESION REALLY STABILIZES THE DUPLEX IN LARGE EXTENT, THESE ARE NOT IMPORTANT BUT WHEN THE STABILIZATION IS IN BETWEEN AND IS NOT SUFFICIENT OR THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENTLY SEPARATE THE DNA, THESE NARCOTICS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE -- FACTORS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THOSE FACTORS THE ONES WE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IS THE -- OF THE AROMATIC MOIETY ESPECIALLY IN THE FACT OF THE STRUCTURE THAT -- HAVE SHOWN, HAVE PUBLISHED THE DAMAGE IS COMPLETELY EXPOSED TO THIS ORDER. SO THE HIGHER THE -- OF THE ADULT, THE MORE DIFFICULT IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE SYSTEM TO REALLY REACH THAT VERY HIGH STRUCTURE. SO LET ME FINISH HERE AND I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF I CAN. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. YOU CAN TURN ON THE LIGHTS IN STONY BROOK SO WE CAN SEE YOU AND THEN WE'LL GO AROUND AND ASK ONE QUESTION AT A SITE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. LET'S GO TO BALTIMORE. ARE YOU THERE? ARE YOU THERE, WILL? UNMUTE. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON. W450EU8 I HAVWHILE I HAVE YOU, I HAVE A HE REQUEST. YOU'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON DID THE NA THE MOST COMMON ONE IS THE -- AND ONE OF THE PECULIAR FEATURES OF THAT IS THE REPAIR OF THE SIX FOUR PHOTO PRODUCT IS VERY EFFICIENT IN THE MAMMALIAN CELLS BY SIX TO 12 HOURS THEY'RE ALL GONE. HOWEVER, THE CPD'S PERSIST EVEN AT 24 HOURS. DO YOU HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT. THEY SEEM TO BE EVADING THE NUCLEOTIDIC REPAIR, THE GLOBAL GENOME REPAIR. ARE THEY IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION OR DIFFERENT CONFIRMATION? >> WELL, THE STRUCTURE OF THE CPD BINDING DIMER IS NOT A DNA STRUCTURE. THE ALIGNMENT REMAINS AND THE ENERGETIC PANELS IS REALLY LOW. THAT'S NOT THE STABILIZED LESION TO A VERY LARGE EXTENT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY -- GROUP HANGING ANYWHERE FROM THE -- SO IT CERTAINLY CAN BE WITHIN THE GENERAL XPC RECOGNITION MOTIVE THAT IMPLIES THERMAL STABILIZATION ENOUGH TO SEPARATE IT TO SPHRANLDZ O STRANDS OF THE DUPLEX. AT THE SAME TIME, THE NUCLEOTIDE RECESSION REPAIR AND YOU KNOW THIS MUCH BETTER THAN I DO HAS ANOTHER PROTEIN THAT IS THE DAMAGE DNA RECOGNITION PROTEIN, THE PRODUCT OF XPE THAT IS KNOWN TO BIND TO THE APT DIMER AS WELL AS -- DOES A BETTER JOB WITH -- THAN THE TT DIMER. SO I GUESS THAT YET INDEED FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT MER DIRECTLY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH LESIONS THAT DO NOT STABILIZE DUPLEX DNA HAVE TRAVELED RECOGNIZES THAT COULD BE THE EXPLANATION OF TT DIMER. AND SOMEHOW THE CELL TRIES TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT BY BINDING OF AN ADDITIONAL PROTEIN BUT DEFINITELY INCREASED THE INCISION OF THE SPECIFIC DIMER. >> OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA, CHAPEL HILL. CAN YOU UNMUTE THERE? OKAY. ANYONE THERE? YOU WERE THERE BEFORE. HOW ABOUT UNIVERSITIES OF KENTUCKY. >> WE'RE HERE. CAN YOU HEAR US? >> YES, WE CAN. >> THIS IS DAVE. KIND OF A FOLLOW UP TO KEN'S QUESTION, MAYBE, IS -- REALLY WELL WITH THESE ADULTS THAT THEY MAINLY DON'T PREFER THE STRUCTURE MUCH IF AT ALL. IF YOU LOOK AT LESIONS THAT ARE MAYBE MINOR PERTURBING LESIONS, IN YOUR RESEARCH OR SOME OTHER PEOPLE'S RESEARCH PREDICT THAT CERTAIN SEQUENCE CONTEXT IN WHICH THOSE MIGHT FORM MIGHT BE RESISTENT TO REPAIR. FOR INSTANCE THEY FORM IN -- MAYBE THEY'RE MORE STABLE MAYBE THEY'RE MORE RESISTENT TO REPAIRS SPECIFICALLY IN THOSE WITHIN THOSE SEQUENCE CONTEXT. I THINK THAT MOST LIKELY HAS BEEN THE GROUP -- DOING A LOT OF MOLECULAR DYNAMICS SIMULATIONS TO SEE THE CONFIRMATIONAL FEATURES OF ADULTS THAT REALLY ARE NOT QUITE RESISTENT AND THEY CAN BE FORELATED. BUT I'M NOT SO SURE VERY CLEAR PICTURE HAVE EMERGED SO FAR FROM THOSE INVESTIGATIONS. MENTED JEUKSINVESTIGATIONS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. PLEASE MUTE IN KENTUCKY THAT'S GO TO NIHES RESEARCH TRIAL. >> HI, KEN, IT'S MATT. WE GOT TO WATCH YOU THE WHOLE TIME. IT WAS REALLY NICE. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> I THANK YOU. WE LIST UPPED. WE OH WE LISTENED AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T STOP THE VIDEO. COULD YOU CALL THE BRIDGE AT SOME POINT AND ASK THEM WHY THEY WOULDN'T ANSWER THEIR PHONE AND WE'RE EAGER TO DO THIS ON MAY 15TH. >> YES. OKAY. FOR NEXT MONTH. >> HOPEFULLY WE'LL POST THOSE SLIDES. PLEASE MUTE THOSE, MATT. UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH, ARE YOU THERE. >> CANNOT, WE'RE HERE. THANKS. WE ALSO ONLY SAW YOU ON THE MAIN VIEWER BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT FIXED. IT WAS A VERY NICE PRESENTATION BUT WE HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. >> CHAPEL HILL, ARE YOU THERE? OKAY. THEY WERE THERE BEFORE. >> YES, WE ARE HERE. SORRY, WE ALSO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WATCHING THE PRESENTATION IN A VERY VERY SMALL SCREEN AND SEEING YOU ALL THE TIME. AND IT WAS A VERY VERY INTERESTING PRESENTATION, I APPRECIATE IT BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, PLEASE MUTE. HOW ABOUT IN PORTLAND? ARE YOU THERE IN PORTLAND? HOW ABOUT IN BALTIMORE, ARE YOU BACK? >>ANYONE ELSE WANT TO QUESTION? >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO KEN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CARLOS WHICH IS YOU SAY THAT AAF -- FOR EXAMPLE PERSISTS IN THE GENOME BUT THIS IS A BULK ADD,. ARE THEY REPAIRED IN ACTIVE GENES PRESUMELY WHEN RNA POLYMERASE -- REPAIR. >> I ASSUME EXACTLY THE SAME. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAVE A SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT WHAT HAPPENED WITH TRANSFUSION REPAIR. AND I GUESS THAT RAISES THE QUESTION THAT PERHAPS ON THE WORK WHERE THEY HAVE SEEN THE PERSISTENCE OF THE ADULTS UP TO SIX MONTHS IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE GRAPH INITIALLY THERE IS A RAPID DECAY OF THE LESIONS AND THEN THEY REMAIN CONSTANT. PERHAPS THOSE ADULTS ARE NOT IN LESIONS THAT ARE TRANSCRIBED AND THAT'S WHY THEY ESCAPE TCR AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY CANNOT BE PROCESSED BY GLOBAL GENOMIC REPAIR AND WHILE YOU HAVE IT THERE AFTER TEN MONTHS. BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAVE DONE THE EXPERIMENT. >> OKAY. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.