SO I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP MUCH TIME BUT I FELT OBLIGED TO SHOW THIS PHOTOGRAPH. I'M SURE ALL OF YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT THIS IS. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT IT IS? NONE OF YOU ARE FROM BROOKLYN. THIS IS THE MOST FAMOUS BRIDGE IN THE AMERICAN BRIDGE AND IT'S A LOGO FOR THE DEMYSTIFYING MEDICINE COURSE BECAUSE THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO LINK UP AND CLOSE THE GAP BETWEEN EXCITING ADVANCES IN BASIC BIOLOGICAL AND ENGINEERING SCIENCES AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO DISEASE MECHANISMS IN HUMAN HEALTH. AND THERE PROBABLY IS NO TOPIC THAT IS MORE TIMELY, DRAMATIC, EXCITING AND CHALLENGING THEN THE TOPIC TODAY. WE WERE INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO OF THE WORLD LEADERS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE TO DISCUSS THIS. SO LET ME INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEM. THEY BOTH ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ARE PRODUCTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN AS A SPECIAL PLUG-IN FOR THE EXCELLENCE OF THEIR PROGRAMS. SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ERIC GREEN WHO TOOK HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE AT WISCONSIN AND HIS M.D. AND PH.D. FROM UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AT ST. LOUIS. LOUIS FORTE GENOMICS AND SINCE HIS FIRST COMING TO THE NIH HE'S RISEN TO THE POSITION WHERE HE'S DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON GENOMIC RESEARCH. SEVERAL OF THE REFERENCES THROUGH HIS RECENT WORKS ARE ON THE WEBSITE. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THEM BECAUSE THEY GIVE THE OVERALL PICTURE AND THE CHALLENGES AND AS ALWAYS IN SCIENCE THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS AFTER YOU DO SOMETHING THAN BEFORE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR WHERE THINGS STAND. NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE THOSE WHO ARE NOT PHYSICIANS MAY THINK THAT ALMOST ANY DISEASE KNOWN TO MAN CAN BE READILY DIAGNOSED BY A FEW LABORATORY TESTS AND CANS. WHAT'S ALL THE EXCITEMENT ABOUT. BUT THAT'S A VERY WARPED VIEW. THERE ARE HUNDREDS, WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THOUSANDS OF DISEASES ABOUT WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THE FOGGIEST IDEA. AND MANY OF THEM ARE VERY VERY SERIOUS. OFTEN AFFECTING CHILDREN, YOUNG ADULTS. AND THESE FOLKS GO TO LEADING MEDICAL CENTERS AND HAVE WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE MILLION DOLLAR WORK UP WITH EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN AT THE END OF THE IT. THE PATIENT AND THE PHYSICIANS ARE STILL SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS. NOW HOUR SECOND SPEAKER WHO IS BILL GAHL DID HIS PH.D. WORK AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN, TRAINED IN PEDIATRICS AND GENETICS. HE CAME HERE AND BILL HAS RISEN IN THE NIH RANKS AND HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF A REMARKABLE PROGRAM THAT HAS ATTRACTED NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION. UNDIAGNOSED DISEASES. NOW THESE ARE PATIENTS WHO HAVE DISEASES FOR READILY AVAILABLE HAVE LED TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND BY A COMPLEX MECHANISM, SOME ARE SELECTED TO COME HERE FOR EXTENSIVE STUDY WHICH LINKS IT INTO SEQUENCING AND ALL THE REST THAT GOES WITH IT AND IT HAS COME TO REMARKABLE ACCOMPLISHMENTS. NOT ONLY WITH THE RECOGNITION OF WHAT SOME OF THESE DISEASES ARE POW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DISCOVER THAT A DISEASE IS ASSOCIATED LET'S SEE WITH A PARTICULAR GENETIC DEFECT, THEN YOU BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT GENO PRODUCT DOES IN AN ACQUIRED DISEASE SO THE WHOLE THING SPINS OFF AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER THINGS. SO I'VE SAID TOO MUCH. SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ERIC GREEN. >> WELL, THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL SERIES. I'M REALLY JUST THE WARM UP ACT FOUR BILL GAHL TO SEARCH UP THE CROWD AND THEN THE SHOW STARTS. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO THE NEXT 30 TO 40 MINUTES IS REVIEW FOR YOU WHAT IS AN INCREDIBLY DYNAMIC AND CHANGING LANDSCAPE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT ON IN GENOMICS. AND WHAT THAT WILL I THINK VERY MUCH SHOW YOU IS THE NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO APPLY GENOMICS TO PROBLEMS IN CLINICAL MEDICINE. THEN I'LL TURN THE PODIUM OVER TO BILL WHO I THINK THROUGH THE PROGRAM HE'S GOING TO DESCRIBE WILL VERY NICELY ILLUSTRATE THE FACT THAT GENOMICS HAVE A MAJOR ROLE IN ADVANCING OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE GENETIC BASIS OF DISEASE. I COME HERE WITH A RICH HISTORY BEHIND ME AND I WANT TO SPEND A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME REALLY DESCRIBING THAT HISTORY REACHING BACK REALLY YEARS AGO, WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT. BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO EMPHASIZE REALLY WHAT TRANSPIRED SINCE THE END OF THE GENOME PROJECT. THIS EFFORT WHICH OF COURSE DATES BACK TO THE ORIGINS OF THE INSTITUTE THAT I NOW DIRECT CREATED FOR DIRECTING THE NIH'S CONSULTANT PUTION TO THIS LARGE INTERNATIONAL EFFORT TO MAP AND SEQUENCE THE HUMAN GENOME IS AT THE TIME THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE TIPALLY DONE IN BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH, BUT IT WAS CAPITAL VAIFTING TO PARTICIPATE IN. I JOINED THIS PROJECT, ACTUALLY, ON DAY ONE, AS A RECENTLY GRADUATED. I WAS A RESIDENT OF PATHOLOGY AT THE TIME AND I THOUGHT THIS AUDACIOUS MISSION OF TRYING TO ALTER THE GENES. I STARTED ON TEE ONE AND COMPLETED TO THE VERY END AND MADE MY CAREER IN GENOMICS. WHEN THE GENOME PROJECT BEGAN, IT WAS TERRIFYING. WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING. THEY HAD THIS GOAL AND WE HAD A LOT OF IDEAS. BUT THE TECHNOLOGIES WERE NOT IN PLACE. THE IDEAS WERE NOT FULLY FLUSHED OUT BUT THE PURPOSE WAS SO HIGHLY FOCUSED AND SO PROFOUND THAT YOU GET HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD WORKING ON A PROBLEM LIKE THAT AND REALLY JUST A MERE TEN YEAR LATER YOU ACTUALLY END UP BEING SUCCESSFUL. FIRST, GENERATING AND THEN ANNOUNCING A DRAFT SEQUENCE OF THE HUMAN GENOME AND THEN A SHORT TIME AFTER THAT TO ACTUALLY PUBLISHING THIS IN WHAT WAS ARGUING ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PUBLICATIONS OF RECENT YEARS IN NATURE, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE FIRST ANALYSIS OF THE DRAFT SEQUENCE OF THE HUMAN GENOME IN NATURE IN FEBRUARY 2001. THAT WAS NOT THE END OF THE PROJECT, THAT WAS JUST A DRAFT SEQUENCE, WE HAD TO GENERATE A HIGHER QUALITY SEQUENCE BACK TO THE LABILITY LABS WE WENT AND GETTING A HIGH QUALITY REFERENCE SEQUENCE OF THE HUMAN GENOME. IN APRIL OF 2003, SORT OF ANNOUNCED COMPLETION OF THAT SEQUENCE, AND WITH IT CAME AN END TO THE HUMAN GENOME. NOW A LOT HAS HAPPENED UNDER GENOMICS IN VARIOUS WAYS AND IN VARIOUS FIELDS. OUR EMPHASIS HERE AT THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH, OF COURSE AND OUR INSTITUTE IN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO USE THE KNOWLEDGE GENERATED BY THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT AND THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT CAME OUT OF STUDYING GENOMES FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING THE MOLECULAR BASIS OF DISEASE AND EVENTUALLY MAYBE CHANGING THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE. NOW THIS IS NOT A TOTALLY CRAZY IDEA. IN FACT THE POPULAR PRESS PICKED THIS UP AS WELL AS THE SCIENTIFIC PRESS PICKED THIS UP ALMOST AS SOON AS THE GENOME PROJECT CONCLUDED. RECOGNIZING THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES TO USE GENOMICS TO CHANGE THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE WERE VERY ENTICING AND WERE VERY MUCH IN FRONT OF US. GIVING RISE TO THE NOTION OF GENOMICS MEDICINE AS A POPULARIZED ON THESE. NOW BY GENOMIC MEDICINE, WHAT I MEAN IS HEALTHCARE TAILORED TO THE INDIVIDUAL BASED ON GENOMIC INFORMATION. IN OTHER WORDS, NOT TAKING PATIENTS AND TREATING THEM. >THEM. >GENERICALLY BUT RECOGNIZING EACH OF US HAS OUR OWN UNIQUE GENETIC MAKE UP. IF WE CAN UTILIZE THAT YITION AS PAR AS CLINICAL CARE WE HAVE A MORE POWERFUL APPROACH PERHAPS FOR TAKING CARE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. SO I WOULD TELL YOU I'VE NOWABLE AT NIH FOR ABOUT 17, 18 YEARS. TWO YEARS AGO I BECAME DIRECTOR OF THE INSTOOVMENT INSTITUTE. VERY MUCH WE VIEW THE PURSUIT OF GENOMIC MEDICINE AS SORT OF THE THING THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING AS AN INSTITUTE, ULTIMATELY SORT OF THE GOAL WE HAVE FOR WHAT THE INSTITUTE NEEDS TO ACHIEVE. AND SO I THINK ABOUT, A LOT ABOUT THIS AND WE DO A LOT OF STRATEGIC PLANNING AROUND THIS IDEA. AND I GUESS WHAT I'VE CONCLUDED IS THAT WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT PATH THAT WE STARTED TO TRAVERSE, ALMOST AS SOON AS THE GENOME PROJECT ENDED. IN FACT THE GENOME PROJECT IN MANY WAYS WAS THE STARTING LINE OF THIS JOURNEY. AT THE OTHER END OF THIS JOURNEY IS GOING TO BE THE REALIZATION OF GENOMIC MEDICINE BROADLY DEFINED. WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT ALL THE STEPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO GET US THERE. BUT WE DON'T PRETEND FOR A MINUTE TO KNOW WHAT ALL THOSE STEPS ARE GOING TO BE. LIKE ANY JOURNEY, YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SURPRISES. BUT WITH THAT SAID, ARE WE GO INTO THIS JOURNEY WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF OPTIMISM HAVING BEEN SUCCESSFUL, MILY SUCCESSFUL AT THE -- HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL AT THE GENOME PROBLEM. WE HAVE TO REALIZE GENOMIC MEDICINE WITH THESE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES AND IN DOING SO WE WILL FULFILL 9 PROMIS THE PROMISE WHY WE SEQUENCE THE HUMAN GENOME IN THE FIRST PLACE. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ARE SORT OF THE FIVE MAJOR STEPS THAT ARE PART OF THIS JOURNEY, STARTING WITH THE END OF THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT. SO REALLY, WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE 2003 WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE SEQUENCE OF THE HUMAN GENOME? I THOUGHT I WOULD TELL YOU WITH THOSE FIVE STEPS JUST VERY BRIEFLY. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DRILL IN ANY DETAIL BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL VIEWS BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN SEE WITH EACH OF THOSE STEPS WE ARE INCHING OUR WAY A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TOWARDS THE REALIZATION OF GENOMIC MEDICINE. SO THINKING ABOUT THIS JOURNEY, THE VERY FIRST STEP WHICH OCCUPIED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS OR SO IS BASICALLY UNDERSTANDING THE FUNCTION OF THE HUMAN GENOME SEQUENCE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS WHAT THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT WAS ALL ABOUT WAS JUST THIS, GENERATING SEQUENCE, ORDERING THE ROUGHLY THREE BILL MILLION T'S AND C'S THAT MAKE UP THE HUMAN GENOME. IT'S NOT AT ALL REALISTIC WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THE SEQUENCE AT THE END OF THE PROJECT. WE JUST NEEDED TO GET THING ORDERED. WE RECOGNIZED THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF BIOLOGICAL INFORMATION ENCODE THE IN THOSE 3 BILLION LETTERS AND IT WOULD TAKE DECADES TO FULLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE NUANCES IN THE WAYS THAT DNA CAN FIRST FUNCTION. WE'VE LEARNED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT IN EIGHT YEARS. THERE HAVE BEEN PROJECTS THAT WE'VE PUT ON SUCH AS THE ENCODE PROJECT, ENCYCLOPEDIA DNA ELEMENT. IT'S A LARGE INTERNATIONAL CONSORTIUM THAT HAS GONE ABOUT USING LABORATORY METHODS AND COMPUTATIONAL METHODS TO CATALOG VARIOUS FUNCTIONAL ELEMENTS IN THE HUMAN GENOME. WHERE ARE ALL THE GENES. WHERE ARE ALL THE SEQUENCES THAT ARE MADE IN RNA. WHERE ARE ALL THE SCWEANLSZ THAT ARE BOUND BY PROTEEN THAT MIGHT REGULATE WHEN GENES ARE TURNED ON AND OFF. AND WHERE ARE REGIONS OF THE CHROMOSOME THAT OPENED UP, WHERE THERE'S OPEN CHROME TONE WITH PROTEIN BINDINGS. COMING WITH THIS IS AN AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THE GENTLELADY WORKS. BY THE WAY IN THE LAST EIGHT -- HOW THE GENOME WORKS. WE RECOGNIZE IT'S IN THE LETTERS, IN FACT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF WAYS THAT DNA GETS DECORATED WITH MESSA METHYL GROUPS AND HISTONE. THE MARX CONFER LOTS OF INFORMATION AND WE'RE JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS GENOME WORKS. YOU CAN GO TO THE INTERNET AND YOU CAN GO TO BROWSERS THAT HAVE TONS OF DATA THAT GENOMISTS HAVE LEARN AND YOU WILL GET GREAT INSIGHTS AND LOTS OF CLUES AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE DESCRIBED YOU. REALISTICALLY EIGHT YEARS AFTER WE FIRST OPENED UP AND ACTUALLY READ OUR GENETIC BLUE PRINT, AT BEST, AT BEST WE HAVE A CLIFF NOTE'S VIEW OF THE HUMAN GENOME. BUT DECADES FROM THOUSAND WE WILL STILL BE INTERPRETING, REINTERPRETING AND REFINING OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED BLEU PRINT. BUT WE'VE LEARNED QUITE A BIT AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK HARD TO UNDERSTAND MORE AND MORE BIT. SO THAT'S SORT OF BEEN ONE OF THE STEPS WE'VE BEEN PURSUING. THE SECOND STEP THAT WE'VE BEEN PURSUING IS THE RECOGNITION THAT WE DON'T JUST CARE ABOUT A HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCE HUMAN GENOME AND HOW IT RUSHED. WE'RE INTERESTED IN OUR GENOMES AND HOW THEY WORK INDIVIDUALLY AND EVENTUALLY HOW OUR INDIVIDUAL PATIENTS GENOMES WORK. SO THE NOTION OF VARIATION, HOW OUR GENOMES DIFFER FROM ONE ANOTHER REALLY HAS BEEN A PRIORITY AREA OF STUDY OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. SPECIFICALLY WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, EACH OF YOU BY THE WAY HAS TWO GENOMES IN YOU. YOU GOT ONE FROM MOM YOU GOT ONE FROM DAD. ACROSS ARE SIX BILLION LETTERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO GENOMES, YOU HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PLACES WHERE YOU VARY COMPARED TO SAY THE PERSON SITTING NEXT TO YOU. I INDICATE THESE BY THESE. WHEN YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT THE PERSON SITTING NEXT TO YOU THERE'S PROBABLY 3 TO 5 MILLION PLACES IN YOUR GENOME THAT YOUR LETTER AT THAT POSITION IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PERSON SITTING NEXT TO YOU. AND THERE'S PROBABLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PLACES WHERE YOUR GENOMES ARE EVEN MORE COMPLICATED IN TERM OF BEING DIFFERENT. EITHER THAT YOU HAVE A STRETCH OF DNA THAT'S FIVE COPIES AND THE PERSON SITTING NEXT TO YOU IS THREE COPIES OR MAYBE IT'S SLIGHTLY REARRANGED. THOSE STRUCTURAL VAIRNTSZ ARE ALSO VERY -- VARIANTS ARE ALSO VERY IMPORTANT. WE ARE CATALOG THOSE DIFFERENCES THROUGH EFFORTS SUCH AS THE HAT PROJECT TO DETERMINE COMMON VARIANTS THAT EXIST IN THE POPULATIONS, IN FACT IN POPULATIONS ACROSS THE WORLD. MORE RECENTLY THE THOUSAND GENOMES PROJECT, ANOTHER LARGE PROJECT TO SEQUENCE NOT JUST ITS NAME OF A THOUSAND GENOMES, IT'S GENOMES COLLECTED FROM GEE GRAPHAL REGIONS ACROSS THE WORLD, SEQUENCING THEM AND CATALOGING THE VARIANTS THAT EXIST AND PUTTING IT OUT ON THE INTERNET FOR EVERYBODY TO STEEVMENTD THE REASOSTUDY.THE REASON WE'RE GETTING TO CATALOG THE MORE MUST NOT VARIANTS AND THE RARE VARIANTS BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONE OF THESE VARIANTS SHOULD WE WORRY ABOUT. WHICH ONES HAVE FUNCTIONAL CONSEQUENCES. IN FACT THE GREAT MAJORITY OF YOUR 3 TO 5 MILLION VARIANTS THAT YOU HAVE, NO TON PHENOTYPIC CONSEQUENCES WHATSOEVER. SOME OF WHICH MIERTD B MIGHT BE DETRIMENT. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD VARIANT. OF COURSE OUR INTEREST IN HAVING A CATALOG OF THESE VARIANTS IS TO ALLOW US TO GO IN AND STUDY WHICH OF THE VARIANTS ARE BIOLOGICALLY IMPORTANT AND IMPORTANT THE PURPOSE OF MEDICAL CARE WHICH OF THEM IS MEDICALLY RELEVANT AND INFLUENTIAL IN TAILORING HOW YOU MIGHT CARE FOR A PATIENT. THAT'S ANOTHER MAJOR AREA. DEVELOP CATALOGS OF VARIANTS ACROSS HUMAN POPULATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE REGIONS OF THE GENOME THAT DIFFER FROM INDIVIDUAL TO INDIVIDUAL. THE THIRD STEP THAT HAS BEEN PURSUED OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND HAS BEEN RELEVANT TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IN THE SECOND TALK RELATES TO USING THE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW THE HUMAN GENOME WORKED. AND USING THE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW THESE HUMAN GENOME VARIES FROM INDIVIDUAL TO INDIVIDUAL CAN NOW START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE GENOMIC BASIS FOR HUMAN DISEASE. NOW KEEP IN MIND OF COURSE THAT ESSENTIALLY EVERY DISEASE YOU CAN NAME HAS A GENETIC ORIGIN OR HAS A GENETIC INFLUENCE WITH THE DISEASE. THE COMPLEXITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE GENETICS FOR DIFFERENT DISEASES VARY CONSIDERABLY. FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION, AND TO SORT OF GIVE YOU JUST A QUICK 235E8 FOFEEL FOR WHAT IS HAPPENED IT'S USEFUL TO THINK ABOUT GENETIC DISEASES IN TWO VERY BROAD CATEGORIES. ON THE ONE HAND, YOU HAVE RARE GENETIC DISEASES BUT THEY'RE GENETICALLY SIMPLE. THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY'RE CAUSED BY DEFECT IN THE SINGLE GENE. IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE MONO GENIC, THEY PUT UP THE NAME -- AFTER THE FAMES JEANETT GENETICIST MENTAL. THIS IS SICKLE CELL DISEASE, HUNTINGTON'S DISEASE AND IN FACT THESE ARE THE KINDS OF DISEASES BILL GAHL WILL TALK ABOUT. THESE ARE MUTE TAKES OF A SINGLE GENE ARE THE DOMINANT RISK FORGETTING THAT DISEASE. MEANWHILE THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER GENERIC INFLUENCE AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONTRIBUTION BUT FANTMENTALLY DEFECTS IN A SINGLE GENE CAUSE THE DISEASE. BUT THESE ARE REQUIRE. AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT AND THEY'RE INSIGHTFUL. BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY REPRESENT THE MAJOR HEALTHCARE BURDENS AROUND THE WORLD. IN FACT HOSPITALS AND CLINICS AROUND THE WORLD IN A MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT WAY ARE THESE DISEASES. THESE ARE THE COMMON GENETIC DISEASES. NOW, IT TURN OUT THAT COMMON JEANETTE I BEEN DISEASES UNFORTUNATELY ARE COMPLEX AND THE REASON THEY'RE COMPLEX IS BECAUSE THEY INVOLVE MULTIPLE GENES. IT'S NOT A DEFECT IN A SINGLE GENE THAT IS THE ONLY RISK FACTOR BUT RATHER IT IS A SERIES OF SQUA GENETIC VARIANTS THAT TOGETHER CONSPIRE WITH WHAT IS TYPICALLY A LARGER INFLUENCE OF THE ENVIRONMENT TO ACTUALLY CONFER WITH FORGETTING THAT DISEASE. WELL, IT WAS ALWAYS IMAGINED THAT THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT AND WE MAP AND SEQUENCE THE HUMAN GENOME IT WOULD PROVIDE THE VALUATIONAL RESOURCES AND TECHNOLOGIES FOR DOING THE DETECTIVE WORK TO FIGURE OUT THE MOLECULAR BASIS OF THESE SIMPLE CASES WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SINGLE GENE. ALWAYS WONDERED WHETHER WE'D BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THIS COMPLEXITY, REPRESENTING THESE COMPLICATED SERIES OF SMALL GENETIC INFLUENCES THAT EVEN UP RESULTING IN SOMEBODY GETTING DIE BOATS O BOATSDIEDIABETES OR NOT GETTIN G DIABETES OR ASTHMA AND SO FORTH. THIS IS A MYSTERY. WE HAVE NOW USED THE NEW KNOWLEDGE OF GENOMIC TECHNOLOGIES OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, LET'S START WITH MONO GENIC DISEASES THOSE SIMPLE RARE MEN DILLIAN DISORDERS. SHOWN HERE IS AN CUMULATIVE GRAPH OF GENES IDENTIFIED WHEN MUTATION RESULTS IN A SINGLE GENE DEFECT REMIND YOU THAT THE GENOME PROJECT BEGAN HERE. AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO ARGUE THAT AS SOON AS SOME OF THE EARLIEST MAPS AND SEQUENCE THE HUMAN GENOME CAME UP, IT IMMEDIATELY ACCELERATED THE PACE AT WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO DO THE DETECTIVE WORK TO FIGURE OUT THE GENETIC BASIS OF SIMPLE GENETIC DISORDERS. AND IN FACT, IT HAS CONTINUED UP TO THE PRESENT TIME AND IN FACT IS EVEN PICKING UP THE PACE AS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IN THE SECOND TALK. WELL, WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THAT INCREASING KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE DISEASES. FOR EXAMPLE, IN WE TAKE ALL THE KNOWN MENDELLIAN DISEASES AND WE CAN INCLUDE TRACE IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE NOW IDENTIFIED THE MOLECULAR BASIS FOR ABOUT 3500 OF THEM. AND THAT IS BASICALLY THE GLASS HALF FULL. THERE IS A GLASS HALF EMPTY PART OF THE STORY. IT TOWRNL TURNS OUT THERE ARE ANOTHER 2000 DISEASES THAT EXIST BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE MOLECULAR 3W5EUSZ FOR AND ANOTHER 2000 OR SO WHERE WE THINK WE HAVE A SINGLE GENE INVOLVED WITH THAT DISEASE WITH THAT TRADE BUT WE TONIGHT KNOW THE MOLECULAR BASIS FOR. REMEMBER THIS PIE CHART I'LL COME BACK TO IN 15 MINUTES. SO THIS HAS BEEN A SUCCESS STORY, THOUGH, 23EU FILLING UP THIS BIG GREEN SLICE OF THE PIE OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. WHAT'S TRANSFIRE TRANSPIRED WITH COMPLEX GENETIC DISEASES. IT'S A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED STORY TO TELL YOU ABOUT BECAUSE IT BASICALLY INVOLVES A WHOLE NEW PARADIGM FOR DOING STUDIES, WHEREBY YOU TAKE LARGE NUMBERS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH A COMPLEX DISEASE LIKE HYPERTENSION AND A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT, AND THEN DO A PROCESS KNOWN AS GENOME-WIDE ASSOCIATION STUDY, WHEREBY YOU ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP A STATISTICAL ASSOCIATION BETWEEN INHERITING A LITTLE BIT OF THE GENOME AND GETTING THAT DISEASE. AND IT'S ALL A BIG STATISTICAL CHALLENGE OF GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE AND STUDYING ENOUGH REGIONS OF THE GENOME TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER YOU CAN TEASE OUT VERY SMALL CONTRIBUTIONS FROM INHERITING SPECIFIC REGIONS IN WHICH RESIDES SPECIFIC VAIRMTS THAVAIRMTS -- VARIANTSING TWEAKING A LITTLE BIT OF RISKS IN ORDER TO GET THAT DISORDER. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS RASH MANY. ONCE UPON A TIME THE BACK OF THE ENVELOPE CLASS O CALCULATION CALCULATION O F IT SHOULD WORK TURNED OUT TO WORK PRETTY WELL. FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN YOU HOPED A MAJOR SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL, CROSS GENETICS, HUMAN MOLECULAR GENETICS, YOU WOULD FIND OFTEN TIMES MULTIPLE STUDIES REPORTING SUCCESSFUL ASSOCIATION STUDIES THAT FOUND DISCRETE REGIONS OF THE HUMAN GENOME, ASSOCIATED, STATISTICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH IMPORTANT DISEASES LIKE DIABETES, HYPERTENSION, CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, ASTHMA AND SO FORTH. AND WE ACTUALLY HERE AT NIH HAVE CATALOGED THIS. IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THE WEBSITE I WILL POINT YOU THERE. EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE WAS A PAPER THAT WILL STICK A LAWFLY POP ON THAT PARTICULAR REGION OF THE BEEN CHROMOSOME WHICH INDICATED THAT WAS A REGION STUDIED IN GREATER DETAIL. BACK IN 2003 WAS THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL ASSOCIATION STUDY OF THIS KIND FOR COMPLEX DISEASES. FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO WE FINISHED THE 1-T 1,000TH COMPILATION. WE WENT TO HAVE THOUSANDS OF SUCCESS STUDIES WITH THAT GENOME LOLLIPOP TO INTERROGATE WHICH OF THE VARIANTS IN THAT REGION IS CONFERRING THE RISK OF DISEASE. WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED ALL OF THEM WE HAVE NOT SOLVED GENETIC DISEASES, BUT WE HAVE THE DETECTIVE WORK NEEDED TO TEASE OUT THESE SMALL GENETIC INFLUENCES FOR THESE IMPORTANT DISEASES. SO WHILE WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME SUCCESS YET AS WE HAVE FOR RARE DISEASES, OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE FULLY EXPECT TO UNDERSTAND ONLY INCREDIBLE AMOUNT MORE ABOUT THE GENETIC BASIS OF THESE COMPLEX GENETIC DISEASES. 2450E89S THTHAT'S THE GLASS HALF FULL AGAIN. THERE'S A SLIGHTLY MORE DAUNTING TASK AHEAD OF US WHICH WILL KEEP US VERY EMPLOYED AND BUSY FOR THE NEXT TEN OR 20, 30 YEARS IS WE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL MOLECULAR STRAINTS OVARIANTS OR THE SQUAWATE GENETIC VARIANTS CAUSING THESE DISORDERS. IT TURNS OUT THE GREAT GREATER MAJORITY OF THOSE OTHER MUTATIONS ARE THE CODING REGION OF THE GENOME. PART OF THE GENOME THAT DIRECTLY COAT PROTEABLES. THE PART OF THE GENOME WE REALLY UNDERSTAND WELL BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT DNA MAKES RNA WHICH MAKES PROTEIN AND WE GET THAT. HOW DO WE INTERPRET THAT AND IT'S A PATH THAT'S STRAIGHT FORTH. IT TURNS OUT THAT WE'VE LEARNED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT ABOUT ANOTHER PART OF THE GENOME THAT'S FUNCTIONALLY IMPORTANT IN WAYS NOT BY CODING FOR PROTEIN BUT BY DOING OTHER THINGS. LIKE REGULATING WHEN GENES GET TURNED ON AND OFF, AND VARIOUS THINGS IMPORTANT FOR CHROMOSOME FUNCTION. AND THOSE ARE NON-CODED PARTS OF THE GENOME THAT WE'RE BARELY SCRATCHING THE SURFACE ON AT BEST, POOR CHAPTER OF THOSE CLIFF NOTES. IT'S TURNING OUT INCREASINGLY WE'RE LEARNING THAT A LOT OF THE VAIRNTSZ THAVARIANTS THAT ARE COMPLEX GENETIC DISEASES ARE NOT IN CODING REGIONS BUT NON-CODING REGIONS OF THE GENOME. TWIKING PARTS OF THTWEAKING PART OF THE GE NOME INSTEAD OF BREAKING THE PROTEINS OUTRIGHT. WE NEED A MUCH BETTER INTERPRETIVE UNDERSTANDING OF THE GENOME AND THIS IS THE VERY REGION THAT IS SO MEDICALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTANDING THESE VERY VERY IMPORTANT CLASS OF COMPLEX DISEASES. SO AGAIN, LOTS OF ADVANCEMENT BUT A LOT MORE TO LEARN. WHAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO FULLY SEIZE ALL OF THIS OUT ESPECIALLY FOR COMPLEX DISEASES. AS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM BILL GAHL GETTING AT THE GENETIC BASES OF THESE REMAINING TWO TO 4,000 RARE MEN DELLIAN DISORDERS IS BETTER FOR GENOME. AND THE NECESSITY TO DEVELOP NEW MOTHERS THAT WOULD ALLOW -- METHODS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SEQUENCE GENOMES. THIS IS NOT A COMPLETELY NEW IDEA . IN FACT AS SOON AS THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT ENDED, WE LOOKED AT HOW MUCH IT COST US ROUGHLY TO SEQUENCE THAT FIRST HUMAN GENOME. PRICE TAG CAME IN JUST ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS. IT WAS THE BEST BILLION TOLLS WE PROBABLY EVER SPENT -- BILLION DOLLARS WE PROBABLY EVER SPENT BUT IT WAS THE BEST BILLION DOLLARS. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE KINDS OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THE KIND OF STUDIES TO UNDERSTAND THE MOLECULAR BASIS OF STUDIES. THEY STARTED INVESTING QUITE HEAVILY IN DEVELOPING NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT ONE DAY WOULD REDUCE THE COST OF SUENCING THE HUMAN GENOME AND STHAGHT WOULD APPROACH A VERY REASONABLE CLINICAL PATH. SOMETHING LIKE $1,000. IN FACT WE PUBLISHED A PAPER IN 2003 CALLING FOR EFFORTS THAT WOULD GENERATE A TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE THOUSAND DOLLAR GENOME. IN FACT THIS BECAME ALMOST A BATTLE CRY FOR THE FIELD. CAN WE DEVELOP TECHNOLOGIES THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SEQUENCE AN INDIVIDUAL'S GENOME FOR A THOUSAND BUCKS. AND ALL I COULD TELL YOU IS THIS HAS BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL. AND IN FACT IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S ONE NEW MACHINE OR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE SIX OR SEVEN, BUT NINE NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVE COME ON THE SCENE. EACH ONE A LITTLE GIVE, EACH ONE A LITTLE BETTER OR DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER. AND BY THE WAY, WHATEVER I SHOW HERE, I WILL BE SHOWING SOMETHING DIFFERENT TWO, THREE FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE NEW TECHNOLOGIES I KNOW ABOUT THAT ARE COMING OUT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. PROBABLY WILL REPLACE ALL OF THESE CONTINUING TO DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF SEQUENCING THE GENOME. IN FACT, IF YOU ASK ME TODAY HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO SEQUENCE A HUMAN GENOME, ARE WE DOWN TO $1,000ATE. TO SEQUENCE A WHOLE HUMAN GENOME COSTS ABOUT THE ORDER OF $5,000, $4,000, DEPENDS HOW, WHAT KIND OF QUALITY, DEPENDS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO, HOW YOU MEASURE THE COSTS. BUT WE'RE VERY CLOSE. IF YOU ASK ME WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT, NOT THIS. WE'LL COAST TO $1,000 GENOME. IN FACT WE HAVE VERY VALUABLE SHORT CUTS WE CAN USE. FOR EXAMPLE WE CAN NOW SEQUENCE THE CODING REGIONS. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THAT IN YOUR NEXT TALK. FORGET ABOUT THE WHOLE GENOME JUST SEQUENCE THE REGIONS WHERE MOST OF THE ACTION IS FOR RARE GENETIC DISEASES. HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST? LESS THAN A THOUSAND BUCKS. IN FACT I JUST GOT AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY FOR A COMPANY OFFERING IT FOR 799 BUCKS. AND IT'S BECOMING AN INDUSTRY, A COMMODITY. SO WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY LOST TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ZEROES OFF THIS PRICE TAG. WE'LL GET TO THE WHOLE GENOME AND MEANWHILE WE'LL GET THE CODING REGIONS OF THE GENOME KNOWN AS MANY SSOME FOR LESS THAN $1,000. IS THE GLASS HALF FULL? IT'S VERY MUCH THE GLASS HALF EMPTY BECAUSE THE TISSUE OUT THE I -- IT TURNS OUT THE FIFTH STEP FOR RIDICULOUSLY AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT WE DOUBLE OUR ABILITY TO INTERPRET HAT SEQUENCE. THE FIFTH STEP IS ROUTINELY BEING ABLE TO ANALYZE THE DATA WE'RE GENERATING AND IT TURNS OUT THIS NOW REPRESENTS THE NUMBER ONE BOTTLE NECK IN GENOMIC. I THINK IT'S THE NUMBER ONE BOTTLE NECK IN ALL OF BIO MEDICAL RESEARCH. I HEAR ABOUT THIS CONSTANTLY. WE'RE IN A WORLD WE WEREN'T IN BEFORE. WHEN THE GENOME PROJECT BEGAN, WE WERE STARVING FOR DATA. AS SOON AS ANY DATA WAS GENERATED, WE WOULD ANALYZE IT. BUT NOW YOU CAN GENERATE SO MUCH MORE DATA AND WE'RE STARVING FOR THE ABILITY TO ANALYZE ALL THE DATA WE'RE GENERATING. THE BOTTLE NECK HAS MULTIPLE COMPONENTS. WE HAVE HARDWARE ISSUES WE GENERATE SO MUCH DATA WE CAN'T STORE IT AT ALL. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH BAND WIDTH TO QUICKLY GIVE A GENOME SEQUENCE GENERATED FOR BELL GALL AND -- BILL GAHL AND GET IT DOWN HERE QUICK ENOUGH TO ANALYZE IT. IT ACTUALLY PUTS THE SEQUENCES ON HARD DRIVE AND FEDEX THEM FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE IT'S QUICKER THAN TRYING TO PUSH IT ACROSS THE INTERNET. THAT'S A HARDWARE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF SOFTWARE PROBLEMS, JUST HAVING THE TOOLS EACH OF THESE MACHINES, IT'S A LITTLE DIRTY AND HAVING THE TOOLS AVAILABLE FOR ANY USER TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE KINDS OF DATA ANALYSIS PIPELINES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. FOR ANY OF THE TRAINEES IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'VE GOT A WORK FORCE ISSUE HERE. WE NEED MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TRAINED AND ANALYZING LARGE DATA SETS BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND BIOLOGY, UNDERSTAND MEDICINE, UNDERSTAND PHYSIOLOGY. IN THE 2350U67 FUTURE, WE NODE MORE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE IT -- WE NEED MORE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE IT WILL HELP US BREAK DOWN THE BOTTLE NECK. WE'LL SOLVE THIS ON A CASE BY CASE 3W5EU7SZ, IN THE LONG RUN WE'LL SAW IT. IT WON'T BE THE ONLY BOTTLE NECK WE'LL FACE. THE TRUTH IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN INFORMATIONAL BOTTLE NECK. BECAUSE THEY FANCY METHODS FOR SEQUENCING DNA, THEY'RE INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE AT OVERWHELMING US WITH DATA AND BILL'S GOING TO DESCRIBE THIS. AND WE CAN EVEN SORT OF SLUG OUR WAY THROUGH THE BOTTLE NECK OF JUST DEALING WITH ALL THAT DATA AND GET DOWN TO A POINT OF KNOWING 3 TO 5 MILLION VARIANTS THAT MIGHT EXIST ACROSS THE GENOMOGENOME OR THE THOUSANDS OF VARIANTS. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT VARIANT MEANS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHAT A CLINICAL PERSPECTIVE. THERE'S A BIG GAP BETWEEN HAVING THE VARIANTS AND KNOWING THE CLINICAL IMPLICATIONS. PEEBILL GAHL WILL TELL YOU AFTER ALL THAT DATE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE INDIVIDUAL PATIENTS. WHEN BILL GOES ON ROUNDS THIS IS WHAT HE FEELS LIKE SORT OF LOOKING AT THE SEQUENCE OF THAT PATIENT AND JUST WONDERING WHICH OF THESE VARIANTS MIGHT BE ONE THAT'SCLINICAL RELEVANT. BUT AGAIN I THINK WE WILL SOLVE THIS BUT IT JUST REPRESENTS WHERE ARE WE IN 2012. A NAME ALL OF YOU KNOW IN 2010 WROTE IN HIS EDITORIAL TALKING ABOUT THE GENOME SEQUENCE OF THE DECADE. THE PHYSICIANS ARE STILL A LONG WAY FROM SUBMITTING -- THE SEQUENCING NOT BECAUSE THE PRICE IS HIGH BUT BECAUSE THE DATA ARE DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET. IT SAYS THE BOTTLE NECK BUT IT'S THE REASON WHY WE MUST RECOGNIZE OUR ABILITY TO FULLY UTILIZE GENOMIC IS GOING TO REQUIRE, IS GOING TO NEED MUCH MORE ROBUST DATA ANALYSIS PIPELINE AND BASICALLY BREAKING DOWN THE INFORMATIONAL 3W5U8G9S NEC BOTTLE NECK AS WELL. THOSE ARE THE FIVE STEPS THAT HAVE BASICALLY REPRESENTED WHAT HAS GONE ON OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. BUT THERE ARE OTHER STATEMENTS LONG THIS JOURNAL -- OTHER STEPS ALONG THIS JOURNEY. WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT DIAGNOSTICS AND HOW TO USE THIS INFORMATION FOR IMPROVING DIAGNOSTICS, DEVELOPING NEW THERAPIES, NEW PREVENTIVE MEASURES AND OTHER STEPS I HAVEN'T THOUGHT HOW FAR AND YOU'RE THINKING OF IT. I'M SURE WE COULD INTERPRET THIS SLIDE IN VARIOUS WAY. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS WHERE WE ARE IN JANUARY OF 20 126789 I --2012. ARE WE AT WHERE WE THOUGHT THE GENOME PROJECT ENDED. WE HAVE LARGE AMOUNTS OF DATA. AS YOU CAN FELL FROM THESE ENGINES, WE HAVIMAGES WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIE S TO START APPLYING GENOMICS TO ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS IN CLINICAL MEDICINE. YES WE HAVE BOTTLE NECKS BUT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THINGS THAT WAS THE IMAGINABLE, FIVE YEARS AGO THREE YEARS AGO AND EVEN TWO YEARS AGO. BILL WILL ECHO THE FACT THE PACE WHICH ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING IS SURPRISING ALL OF US. IN MANY WAYS IT WAS VERY OPPORTUNE FOR OUR INSTITUTE RESPONSIBLE FOR SORT OF LEADING GENOMIC RESEARCH HERE AT NIH TO SORT OF REASSESS WHERE WE ARE HAVING SORT OF NOW EIGHT YEARS MOIST THE GENOME PROJECT. IN FACT WE DID THAT AND WE DID A STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS STARTING SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THEN JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO, ABOUT 11 MONTHS AGO OR SO PUBLISHED A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE FIELD OF GENOMICS THAT REALLY EMPHASIZED THE APPLICATIONS OF GENOMICS, THE CLINICAL MEDICINE AND THE PATH TOWARDS GETTING THIS TOWARDS GENOMIC MEDICINE. AND I HAVE A COPY OF THIS HERE AND I HAVE IT ON THE TABLE I KNOW MANY OF YOU PICKED UP. PLEASE PICK UP OF THES ONE OF THESE UP. I URGE YOU TO READ IT. IT'S WRITTEN FOR A BROAD AUDIENCE AND I THINK YOU WOULD APPRECIATE SORT OF ACTUALLY READING IT FROM COVER, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. BUT I JUST IN THE LAST TEN MINUTES OR SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST TELL YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS HOPING THAT YOU WILL READ THE DETAILS. IT BECAME VERY CLEAR BY LISTENING TO LITERALLY HUNDREDS AND LUNGS OF COLLEAGUE HUNDREDS OF:00COLLE AGUES AROUND THE WORLD THAT ADVISED US, AS I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU FOR MAKING THIS JOURNEY FROM -- WERE UNPRECEDENTED NOW AND UNANTICIPATED TO COME ON THE SCENE AS QUICKLY AS THEY DID. IN FACT IT WAS TIME TO BE MORE SOPHISTICATED AND MORE SPECIFIC IN DESCRIBING WHAT THIS JOURNEY WAS GOING TO BE LIKE, ESPECIALLY FOR THINKING ABOUT THE RESEARCH STEPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED TO GET THERE. AT THE END OF THE DAY THE WAY WE ORGANIZE THIS PLAN IT'S VERY USEFUL TO THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT THE FIVE DOMAINS OF ACTIVITIES, YOU CAN VERY MUCH SEE A NATURAL PROGRESSION THAT'S VERY RATIONALIST SPECIALLY WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. SO THE FIVE DOMAIN OF WHICH WE ORGANIZE OUR STRATEGIC THINKING STARTED WITH USING GENOMIC TO UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF GENOMES. SOUNDS LIKE THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT. ALSO USING GENOMICS THEN TO STUDY, UNDERSTAND THE BIOLOGY OF GENOMES, HOW GENOMES WORK. DEVELOPING A BETTER AND BETTER COMPENDIUM OF THE FUNCTIONAL ELEMENTS OF THE HUMAN GENOME. BUT THEN USING THAT KNOWLEDGE TO USE GENOMICS TO UNDERSTAND THE BIOLOGY OF DISEASE, TRULY GETTING OUT THE MOLECULAR 3W5EUSZ OBASISOF DISEASE AND USING THAT KNOWLEDGE TO ADVANCE THE SCIENCE OF MEDICINE. MEDICAL SCIENCE. POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE BUT REALIZING YOU CAN'T STOP THERE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA, YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK. YOU HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THAT IN A HEALTHCARE DELIVERY SYSTEM AND DEMONSTRATE THROUGH RESEARCH THAT YOU TRULY HAVE IMPROVED THE EFFICIENTIVENESS OF HEALTHCARE USING THAT GENOMIC INFORMATION. THESE FIVE DOUGH MAINS OF RESEARCH ACTIVITY REALLY PROVIDE A FIELD OF VISION GOING FORWARD TO RECOGNIZE GENOMIC MEDICINE. IT PROVIDES A VERY USEFUL REFERENCE POINT THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND ALSO PREDICTING THE FUTURE. WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT. THE WAY WE REPRESENT IT WAS THROUGH A SERIES OF HYPOTHETICAL DENSITY PLAWFLTS THAT JUST SIMPLY REPRESENTED BLUE DOTS AS HYPOTHETICAL RESEARCH ACCOMPLISHMENTS OR GENOMIC ACCOMPLISHMENTS OVER DIFFERENT DOMAINS OVER DIFFERENT PERIOD OF TIME. DURING THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT I WILL TELL YOU ALL ACCOMPLISHMENTS WERE IN THAT DOMAIN. WE FIGURED OUT THE STRUC STRUCTURE OF GENOMES. WE FIGURE THE OUT HOW THEY WORKED AND SOMETHING ABOUT DISEASE. THE DENSITY PLOT PILES UP IN RED AROUND THE FIRST DOMAIN. WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT THOSE FIVE STEPS. SINCE THE GENOME PROJECT ENDED? WELL THE 1KWR50E7 GENOME PROJECT ENDED IT WAS LEARNING ABOUT STRUCTURE OF GENOME BUT ALSO USING THAT KNOWLEDGE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE GENOME WORKS. AND THE CENTER OF GRAVITY WAS FIRMLY PLACED ON THESE FIRST TWO DOMAINS, SURE WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT RARE GENETIC DISEASES AND INCREASINGLY MORE AND MORE ABOUT COMPLEX DISEASES AND A FEW WHERE WE CAN SHOW WE ADVANCED MEDICAL SCIENCE AND MAYBE IMPROVED HEALTHCARE. BUT FUNDAMENTALLY THAT CENTER OF GRAPH THEY WAS ON THESE FIRST TWO DOMAINS. WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT DECADE. WHAT DO WE SEE IS HAPPENING. WHO IS GOING TO SHIFT IN THE CENTER OF THAT GRAVITY AND THE REAL EMPHASIS OVER THE NEXT DECADE WILL BE BETTER UNDERSTANDING HOW GENOMES WORK. PARTICULARLY USING THAT KNOWLEDGE TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE GENOMIC BASIS OF DISEASE. WITH THAT WILL COME MORE ADVANCES IN MEDICAL SCIENCE AND MAYBE IN A FEW MORE HOME RUNS IN HEALTHCARE. BUT LET'S BE REALISTIC HERE, TRULY MAKING ACCOMPLISHMENTS OUT HERE IN THE CLINICAL DOMAINS WILL TAKE MORE THAN FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS. BEYOND 2020 WE'LL SEE A LOT OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS BUT THE NEXT DECADE THE MOST EXCITING DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE IN THE SECOND AND THIRD DOMAIN. NOW THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THIS IS AUDACIOUS AGENDA HERE. THE IDEA TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE BIOLOGY OF ALL DISEASES AND CHANGING MEDICAL SCIENCE AND IMPROVING HEALTHCARE. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO JUST HERE AT NHGR I. IT'S A WORLD VIEW OF GENOMICS FAR FAR MORE THAN WHAT ONE LITTLE INSTITUTE, IN FACT IT'S FAFAR MORE THAN ONE FUNDING AGENCY, FAR FAR MORE THAN WHAT ONE COUNTRY WILL DO. WHAT WE DESCRIBE IS REALLY A WORLD VIEW OF USING GENOMICS TO UNDERSTAND DISEASE AND EVENTUALLY TO IMPROVE HEALTHCARE. AND SO IT'S WITHIN THAT CONTEXT, THOUGH, I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST TELL YOU IN THE LAST FIVE MINUTES SORT OF WHAT I THINK THE FUTURE'S GOING TO BRING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE THINGS THAT WE THINKING ABOUT MOST AGGRESSIVELY HERE AT NIH, AND PARTICULARLY THE ARENA -- I'M SORT OF TELEGRAPHING THE FUTURE BY TELLING YOU WHAT OUR IMPERATIVES FOR GENOMIC MEDICINE, THIS IS TEXT DOT 2. IT'S THINGS WE HAVE TO DO AND OUR INSTITUTE HERE AT N IT H WILL BE INVESTING IT. IT REALLY DOES PREDICT THE FUTURE. WHAT THE FUTURE WILL BRING I WILL AT THE YOU IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN SEQUENCING LOTS OF PEOPLE'S GENOMES. THAT'S PART OF CLINICAL RESEARCH AND EVENTUALLY SICKLE CARE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE GENOMES I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE'S GENOMES I'M TALKING ABOUT 10 OF THOUSANDS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS TO GET SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE DISEASES TO FULLY INTERPRET WHICH VARIANTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RELEVANT FOR DISEASE. WHEN THIS HAPPENS ACROSS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OUT IN THE CLINICS NECESSARILY, OUT IN COMMUNITY HOSPITALS. IT'S FIRST GOING TO HAPPEN IN RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS HERE IN THE CLINICAL CENTER AS BILL'S GOING TO DESCRIBE. EVENTUALLY WE WILL LEARN HOW TO USE THIS INFORMATION FOR CLINICAL CARE BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVER NIGHT. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THROUGH A FOUNDATION OF STRONG CLINICAL RESEARCH. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN READING MORE ABOUT SOME OF THESE EARLIEST CLINICAL APPLICATIONS, ONLY FROM OUR INSTITUTE AND I WROTE TO WRITE A COMMENTARY AND I WOULD POINT TO THIS PAPER THAT CAME OUT LAST FALL. WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO I THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE START TO USE THESE POWERFUL NEW SEQUENCING TECHNOLOGIES AND USING THEM FOR CONTINUE CLUL RESEARCH TO GET -- FOR CLINICAL RESEARCH TO GET AT MOLECULAR BASIS FOR DISEASE. I PREDICT OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT ADVANCE IN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE MOLECULAR BASIS OF THESE REMAINING RARE GENETIC DISEASES. I TOLD YOU WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE PIE CHART. WE BELIEVE A PRIORITY AREA OF RESEARCH IS GOING TO HAVE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO NOW USE ARE GENOME SEQUENCING TO UNDERSTAND THE CAUSES OF THESE REMAINING RARE GENETIC DISEASES. BILL GAHL IS GOING TO DESCRIBE SOME OF THESE CASES TO YOU IN HIS TALKS. MEANWHILE WE IMAGINE INDUSTRIALIZING THIS PROCESS FOR THAT WE KNEW EXIST. WE DECIDED TO LAUNCH A NEW TISSUIVE THATISSUETISSUIVE. WE HAVE GENOME CENTERS DEDICATED TO STUDYING MENDELIAN DISORDERS. THE IDEA IS TO DISCOVER GENETIC BASIS FOR AS MANY DISORDERS AS POSSIBLE BY COORDINATING HOW SAMPLES ARE COLLECTED, HOW THE DE IS ANALYZED, HOW THE SEQUENCING IS DONE. AND OF COURSE ESTABLISHING, DISSEMINATING THE BEST DESIGNS FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND HAVE THE INK ENGINES OF DISCOVERY AT THESE CENTERS WE'RE CREATING TO ALLOW PHYSICIAN ANDS GENETICISTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO PROVIDE SAMPLES TO ACCELERATE THE PACE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. AND COORDINATE A LIST OF SAMPLES SO PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD COORDINATING WITH OTHER EFFORTS AROUND THE WORLD COULD BE VERY ORGANIZED IN TRYING TO GET AT THE REMAINING TO FOUR THOUSAND GENETIC DISEASES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE MOLECULAR BASIS FOR. HERE IN THE UNITED STATES WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE SPHRUNLDED THREE GROUPS. -- FUNDED THREE GROUPS. ONE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON, YALE AND COMBINED AT BAYLOR WE HAVE HUMAN GENOME 1EUSCYSTS INVOLVED IN THIS. THIS IS GOING TO PUSH THE ACCELERATOR TO HELP US INCREASE THE PACE AT THE DISCOVERY BASIS FOR THESE RARE GENETIC DISEASES. BUT SIMILARLY WE WILL BE USING ALL SORTS OF PROGRAMSAT OUR INSTITUTE AND OTHER INSTITUTES COORDINATED WITH THOSE IN SUBSTITUTES AND AROUND THE WORLD TO GO FROM THESE LOLLIPOP REGIONS OF THE HUMAN GENOME FOR SEQUENCING LOTS OF INDIVIDUALS GENOMES WITH DIFFERENT COMPLEX DISEASES AND USING THAT KNOWLEDGE TO TRY TO GET AT THE NEXT ROUND OF STUDY TO SORT THROUGH ALL THE VARIANTS THAT ARE THERE AND FIGURE OUT WHICH OF THOSE VARIANTS ARE THE RUNS CONFERRING RISKS FOR COMPLEX DISEASES. A MORE COMPLICATED SET OF STUDIES THAT HAVE TO BE PURSUED DECREASING COSTS OF SEQUENCING AND NEXT IDEA ON THE NEXT ROUND OF APPROACHES BUT THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BE ACCELERATED IN THE COMING YEARS. THE THIRD HIGHLIGHT I WILL TELL YOU WHICH IS VERY MUCH LOW HANGING FRUIT IS THE USE OF THE GENOME SEQUENCING METHODS TO STUDY CANCER. THIS IS A TALK ACTUALLY IT'S PROBABLY TWO-THREE TALKS IN AND OF ITSELF BECAUSE CANCER IS A DISEASE OF THE GENOME AND THE USE OF THESE NEW IMMEDIATE ALWAYS, STUDY CANCER GENOMES AND TO CATALOG THE VARIANTS THAT ARE FORMED AND THE STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT TAKE PLACE IN THE CANCER GENOME. IT IS ABSOLUTELY SOME OF THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITIES TO ADVANCE CANCER RESEARCH. THAT IS THE REASON WHY A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO OUR INSTITUTE PARTNERED UP WITH THE CANCER INSTITUTE TO LAUNCH THE CANCER GENOME AT LAST WHICH IS A ATLAS WHICH IS T HE EVIDENT TO TAKE DIFFERENT KINDS OF CANCERS, SEQUENCE THE GENOMES AND CATALOG SOME OF THE COMMON VARIANTS THAT ARE FOUND IN THOSE CANCER GENOMES TO PROVIDE BOTH DIAGNOSTIC CLUES AND CLUES ABOUT THE BASIC MECHANISMS THAT MIGHT LEAD TO NEW RESULTS AND THERAPIES. THIS IS MET WITH A WHOLE SERIES OF INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS FROM COUNTRIES ALL BEING VERY COORDINATED. NEEDLESS TO SAY ADVANCES IN CANCER GENOMICS ARE GOING TO BE PROFOUND OVER THE NEXT DECADE. BUT WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THESE VAIRPT VARIANTS ASSOCIATED WITH RARE OR COMMON DISEASES, CANCER GENOMES IT WILL BECOME OVERWHELMING FOR PRACTICING PHYSICIANS AND CLINICAL RESEARCHERS. JUST AS THERE IS THIS COMPUTATIONAL BOTTLE NECK THERE'S AN INFORMATIONAL BOTTLE NECK IN GENERAL. IF YOU PUT ON TOP OF THAT CLINICAL INFORMATION, WE ARE HEARING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE ROBUST CLINICAL GENOMICS INFORMATION SYSTEMS. AND WE ARE VERY MUCH TRYING TO ACCELERATE THE DEVELOPMENT TO SORT OF KEEP PACE WITH THESE GENOMIC ADVANCES. INTEGRATING ALL THIS GENOMIC INFORMATION INCREASINGLY INTO ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, PROBLEMS IN AND OF THEMSELVES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. BUT ALSO COMING UP WITH SIMPLE TOOLS FOR PRACTICING PHYSICIANS TO KNOW WHICH VARIANTS ARE ONES THAT ARE RELEVANT FOR THE CARE OF THAT PATIENT, WHAT MEDICATIONS TO GIVE THEM, HOW TO STRATIFY THEM AND SO FORTH. INCREASINGLY WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO BEST FACILITATE THIS THROUGH SOME INITIALLY RESEARCH EFFORTS AND EVENTUALLY SOME DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. SO I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT BY REVIEWING THE FACT THAT I'VE DESCRIBED TO YOU THIS JOURNEY FROM THE GENOME PROJECT TO THE REALIZATION OF GENOMIC MEDICINE. WE'VE SIMPLY GOTTEN MORE SOPHISTICATED IN HOW WE'RE DESCRIBING THIS BY HAVING A PROGRESSIVE SET OF DEMAINS THAT GET US CLOSER -- DOMAINS GETTING US CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE BEDSIDE OF PATIENTS. YOU WILL HEAR CERTAINLY THE NEXT SPEAKER IS A PARTICULAR ACCELERATION AT WHICH WE WILL SEE DISCOVERIES ABOUT THE GENTLELADYIGENETIC BASIS AND INCREASING AMOUNTS OF GENOMIC INFORMATION. WITH THAT I WILL STOP EXCEPT TO TELL YOU I DON'T MEAN TO IMPLY FOR A MINUTE THAT ANY OF THIS IS GOING TO BE EASY. THIS IS ALL VERY HARD. DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S HARD, INTERPRETING THE GENOME IS HARD AND CERTAINLY GETTING AT THE COMPLEXITIES OF HUMAN DISEASE ARE GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY HARD. THERE ARE VERY TALENTED PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN RECRUITED TO THIS EFFORT THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH GENOMICS. I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A QUOTE BECAUSE I THINK IT CAPTURES BOTH WHAT RESPECTS OUR FIELD AND REFLECTS THE SECOND PARYK YOU'LL HEAR FROM IN A WIN. THE -- THOSE OF US INVOLVED IN THE GENOME PROJECT, WE ARE VERY MUCH OPTIMISTS AND WHILE WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFICULTIES AHEAD OF US WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY. I WILL STOP THERE. DO I TAKE QUESTIONS NOW OR SHOULD BILL GO AND THEN TAKE QUESTIONS. WHENEVER YOU WANT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU ERIC. THAT WAS MARVELOUS. [APPLAUSE] I REA MIND YO REMIND YOU TO THE COPIES THA T ERIC PUT HERE, THIS IS ALSO POSTED ON THE WEBSITE FOR DEMYSTIFYING MEDICINE SO YOU CAN ACCESS IT THERE. SO WE HAVE TIME IF SOME OF YOU HAVE A FEW BRIEF QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO HOLD THEM UNTIL AFTER. >> I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER BILL AS WELL. >> HI. A NICE TALK. MOST OF WHAT YOU TOUCHED ON, IS REALLY THE DIAGNOSTIC AND CAUSATIVE SIDE OF MEDICINE BUT THERE'S THE OTHER SIDE, THE TREATMENT. SO CAN YOU COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON HOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GENETICS OF RESPONSE TO DIFFERENT THERAPIESOR EVEN, IMMUNLOGICAL RESPONSES TO VACCINATIONS AND SO FORTH. >> ABSOLUTELY. I HINTED TEND I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IS THAT IN UNDERSTANDING THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE GENOME, NOT ONLY ARE WE LEARNING ABOUT THE GENETIC VARIANTS THAT LEAD TO RISK FORGETTING DISEASESSOR CAUSING DISEASES, WE'RE ALSO LEARNING ABOUT THE GENETIC VARIANTS THAT INFLUENCE OUR RESPONSE TO TREATMENT. IN FACT THERE'S A WHOLE FIELD WHICH YOU PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT CALLED PHARMACOGENOMICS, PHARMACOLOGY AND JUST A JUST -- GENOMICS. BASED ON THAT DETERMINING WHETHER A PERSON WILL BE A GOOD RESPONDER OR BAD RERESPONDER. I THINK THAT SCRATCHES THE SERVICE, FIVE TEN YEARS FROM NOW THERE WILL BE LOTS OF MEDICATION. SIMILARLY THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT OUR IMMUNOLOGIC RESPONSE IS TOGETHER TO BE HEAVILY GENETICALLY BASED AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO VACCINES. IT MAY GUIDE PREVENTIVE MEASURES AND VACCINATION REGIMENS AND SO FORTH BASED ON GENOMIC KNOWLEDGE. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> SO THE QUESTION WAS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU MISS BY JUST DO EXSO MANY SEQUENCING VERSUS WHOLE GENOME SEQUENCING AND OF COURSE IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. IT'S A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. IF THE ANSWER SITS -- IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S OUGHT THERE IN NON-CODING DNA, YOU BETTER DO WHOLE GENOME SEQUENCING BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO INTERPRET IT. AS OF TODAY, OUR ABILITY TO INTERPRET THAT IS QUITE POOR SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GO WHERE, ARE SORT OF CONSIDERED THE LOW HANGING FRUIT IN SOME WAYS. A LOT OF WHAT BILL GAHL DESCRIBES IS WHOLE GENOME SCWEPS BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THAT'S THE MOST LIKELY PLACE HE WILL FIND HIS MUTATION. IF HE DOESN'T HE WILL DO A WHOLE GENOME SEQUENCE AND TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT LATER. >> OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TIME AT THE END FOR QUESTIONS FOR ALL. >> I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP WITH THE SCREEN AND AT THE RISK OF SEEMING AW AWK AWK -- YOU DID A GOOD JOB. WE HAVE SOME GUESTS TODAY. WE HAVE MR. AND MRS. CLADINSKY. SHE'S ONE OF OUR MEASURES AND WE'LL AS -- OURPATIENTS AND WE'LL ASK HER QUESTIONS WHEN WE GET TO THAT SLIDE. THE END DISEASE DISEASE PROGRAM DOES MORE THAN GENETICKICS BUT BECAUSE WE ARE ROOTED IN THE STAFF WE DO A LOT OF GENETICS. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THIS. AND WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO SEE OUR PATIENT WITHOUT CHARGING THE PATIENT. OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE DIAGNOSIS FOR PEOPLE WHO SEARCH FOR A LONG TIME FOR ONE AND HAVEN'T GOTTEN ONE AND ALSO TO FINE NEW DISEASES AND NEW INSIGHTS INTO CELL BIOLOGY AND BIO CHEMISTRY. THE WAY WE WORK THIS PROGRAM IS THAT PEOPLE APPLY BY GIVING US THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS AND BY HAVING THEIR PHYSICIAN GIVE US A SUMMARY LETTER. THEN I LOOK OVER THOSE RECORDS AND DECIDE WHICH CONSULTANTS SHOULD LOOK THEM OVER AND USUALLY IT'S BETWEEN ONE AND FIVE CONSULTANTS. THEY TELL ME IF THEY THINK IT'S A GOOD CASE, AND I SORT OF AGREE WITH THEM. THEN I WRITE THE NOTES, WHICH IS EITHER AN ACCEPTANCE OR REJECTION. AND THE ACCEPTED PATIENTS COME FOR ABOUT A WEEK AT THE NIH. IN THAT TIME WE GET DONE ABOUT WHAT'S DONE ON AN OUTPATIENT BASIS IN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS. AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK INSURANCE COMPANIES. IF YOU HAVE OUTPATIENTS, THEY HAVE TO GET ONE INSURANCE, ONE STUDY APPROVED BY INSURANCE BEFORE THEY CAN GET THE OTHER ONE DONE AND THAT TAKES ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO TO SCHEDULE. SO WE GET A LOT DONE DURING THAT TIME. WE HAVE OPEN MEETINGS, ABOUT ONCE A MONTH WHICH WE DISCUSS THE PATHOLOGY AND RADIOLOGY, AND HAVE A BUNCH OF EXPERTS AROUND THE ROOM. THOSE ARE INTERESTING. IN FACT THE NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE FRIDAY FEBRUARY 10TH. SO A WEEK FROM FRIDAY AT 11:00 IN THE MEDICAL BOARD ROOM OF THE CLINICAL CENTER. THAT'S CRC4-2551. YOU'RE ALL INVITED. IN THE LAST THREE AND-A-HALF YEARS SINCE ITS INITIAL INFORMATION ON MAY 19, 2008, WE'VE SEEN ABOUT 500 PATIENTS. AND WE HAD ABOUT 6,000 INQUIRIES. AND OVER 2000 MEDICAL RECORDS. THE AVERAGE MEDICAL RECORD'S ABOUT AN INCH AND-A-HALF THICK OR SO AND WE REJECTED TWO THIRDS TO THREE QUARTERS OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. THE ONES WE ACCEPT ARE LARGELY NEUROLOGICAL CASES. MORE THAN HALF. AND A LOT OF COMPLEX GENETIC CASES IN KIDS. WE DO AT LEAST THRE AT AT LEAST THREE TYPE S. COMMERCIAL MOL CLOWR DIAGNOSTICS MILLION SNP ARRAY AND WHOLE EXOME SEQUENCING. THIS IS SOME OF THE SOFTWARE THAT'S USED. BUT THE CONCEPT OF A SINGLE NEUCLO TYPE PAULO MOREOVERRISM WRY POLYMORPHISM IS SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW. WE HAVE OUR DNA STRAND AND IF YOU LOOK AT A MILLION SNIPS THAT MEANS YOU WILL BE LOOKING ON AVERAGE ONE OVER 3,000 OF THOSE BASIS. AND THOSE MILLION SNIPS ARE CHOSEN BY A COMPANY TO BE SPECIFICALLY POLY MORPHIC AND NOT 1 TO 199 BUT POLY MORPHIC AT 60/40 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE A AT OR CG OR WHATEVER. THERE ARE TWO POSSIBILITIES AND THEY ARE DIVIDED ROUGHL ROUGHLY EVENLY. BUT THESE ARE SELECTED RESIDUES. THEY ARE SELECTED BASES WITHIN THAT SO THAT THEY ARE POLY MORPHIC BY NATURE. AND THEN THE TECHNOLOGY INVOLVES, CREATING HYBRIDIZATION PROBES OUT OF THE NUCLEOTIDES THAT VARY ONLY IN THE POLY MORPHIC BASE. SO YOU CAN DETERMINE WHETHER ONE IS AN A OR T IN THIS CASE OR C OR G IN THIS CASE. YOU CAN SEE THESE. YOU CAN JUST READ THAT ACTUALLY. BY CONVENTION, THE MORE COMMON OF THE TWO ALLELES, THE TWO POLY MORPHIC ALLELES IS CALLED A AND THE LESS COMMON IS CALLED B. SO THAT DIE S DISOMIC INDIVIDUALS THOSE WITH TWO STRANDS WILL BE AA OR AB. AB IS THE HETEROZYGOTE AND AA AND AB WEB THE HOMO SIGH GUT. FURTHERMORE THE DEGREE OF FLUORESCENCE IS RELATED TO THE AMOUNT OF NUMBER OF ALLELES THAT ARE PRESENT. SO FOR EXAMPLE IN THIS CASE BOTH HERE HAVE TO DO WITH FLUORESCENCE. IF YOU ARE DISOMIC YOU CAN HAVE THIS MUCH OR THIS MUCH OR THIS MUCH FOR THESE POSSIBILITIES. IF YOU ARE MONO S SOMIC, DELETED IN THESE ALLELES. IF YOU'RE DELETED IN BOTH OF THEM YOU'LL HAVE THIS MUCH FLUORESCENCE. YOU CAN TELL BECAUSE IT'S MEASURED FOR ALL OF THESE MILLION SNIPS. FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS A LOG R RATIO. IT DEPECKS TECHS THE COPY NUMBER VARIANTS. IN OTHER WORDS DO YOU HAVE TWO OR ONE SINGLE DELETION, DO YOU HAVE ZERO, DOUBLE DELETION OR DO YOU HAVE THREE, A DUPLICATION. AND EACH OF THESE DOTS REPRESENTS ONE OF THOSE SNIPS. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY SNIPS ARE ON HERE AND IF YOU LOOK HERE, ON THE ORDINATE IS THE INTENSITY. THIS IS AN AVERAGE INTENSITY. IT'S REASONABLE. BUT LOOK AT ALL OF THESE SNIPS. THEY HAVE SEVERAL LOGS BELOW THE AVERAGE INTENSITY. SO THEREFORE THEY ARE DELETED. IN FACT THEY ARE DOUBLY DELETED. THEY ARE HOMOZYGOUSLY DETAILED. IN THIS CASE IT'S 32 SNIPS IN A ROW. EACH ONE IS 3000 BASES. IT TURNS OUT THESE ARE CLOSER TOGETHER. THEY ONLY GIVE ABOUT 60 OR SO KILL BASIKILO BASIS AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE IN THE -- GENE WHICH IS CTNS. AND THIS DELETION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT 50% OF ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE CYSTNOSIS IN THE UNITED STATES AND NORTH AMERICA. THIS HARKENS BACK TO WHAT ERIC TALKED ABOUT THE HUMAN GENOME. ACROSS THIS ENTIRE BILLION BASES, WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED A MILLION SNIPS AND WIT KNOW WHICH SNIPS ARE MISSING IN A ROW. IN OTHER WORDS WHICH REGIONS ARE DELETED. THAT GENOME IS ANNOTATED BY THE HUMAN GENOME KNOWLEDGE AND WE CAN JUST LOOK DOWN AND SEE ARE THERE GENES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE DELETIONS. ARE THE GENES ASSOCIATED WITHIAN DELETION, A DOUBLE DELETION OR A TO CASE. AND EVERY TIMCASE -- DUPLICATION. WE IDENTIFY GENES THAT ARE CAUSAL TO THE DISEASES IN OUR PATIENTS. I WILL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT AS WE MOVE ON. THAT IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF DOING A MILLION SNIP ARRAY, THAT IS TO DETERMINE COPY NUMBER VARIANTS. THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING. THE OTHER, THE OTHER WAY TO ANALYZE THESE DATA, THE MILLION SNIP ARRAY DATA IS TO LOOK AT WHETHER THE PATIENT HAS BB, AB OR AA. AND THESE TOP AND THE BOTTOMER HOMOZYGOUS AND THE MIDDLE IS HETEROZYGOUS AND EACH ONE OF THESE DOTS REPRESENTS EACH ONE OF THOSE SNIMS. YOTHERE ARE NO SNIMS ISNIPS IN THE CENTER CENTROMERE. IT WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH HOMOZYGOUSITY THERE IS. LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE TOP AND BOTTOM AND JUST PLOT THE MIDDLE. LET'S DO THAT FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS FOR THE SNIPS THAT CONSTITUTE CHROMOSOME 10. EACH ONE OF THESE IS A DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL HERE. THIS IS ACTUALLY BLOWN UP SO THIS IS THE CENTROMERE HERE. SO NOW WE ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERING THE BB OR THE AA WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE MIDDLE BANDS, THE AB. SO THIS IS THE MEASURE OF THE HETEROZYGOUS SNIPS. WELL HERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A REGION HERE WHERE THERE ARE NO HETEROZYGOUS SNIPS, A WHOLE LONG REGION. HERE'S ANOTHER REGION IN THAT INDIVIDUAL. WHY IS IT BENEFICIAL TO KNOW THIS. IT'S BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE HOME SIGHOMOZYGOUSITY AND YOU HAVE A DISEASE, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A SINGLE MUTATION IN AN ANCESTOR AND THAT PARTICULAR MUTATION WAS INHERITED FROM BOTH THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER IN THIS INDIVIDUAL, AND THEREFORE IS HOMOZYGOUS FOR IT. AND THEN IT REQUIRES ONLY A SINGLE MUTATION. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF DISTANT KAWBILITY CONTINUITY IN WHAT IS A HOMOZYGOUS DISEASE. IF YOU HAVE A RUN OF HOMO ZYGOUSITY, LACK OF HOE MOW ZYGOSITY HERE, ANNOTATED BY THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT CAN TELL YOU WHAT GENES ARE ASSOCIATED AND THOSE BECOME YOUR AMEND DATE GENES FOR LOOKING FOR A SINGLE HEMHOMOZYGOUS MUTATION. THESE ARE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE DIFFERENT REGIONS OF ABSENCE OF HETEROZYGOUSITY. NOW HERE'S A GUY THAT COMES IN, HE'S ACTUALLY A RUSSIAN IMMIGRANT WHO CAME IN TO OUR PROGRAM WITH INFLAMMATORY INSELF INSELF LAWITY -- HE HAD IT AT THE LEVEL OF A SECOND COUSIN. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? BECAUSE FIRST COUSIN SHARE ONE NTH OF THEIR GENES SECOND SHARES 1/32ND AND SO ONE 1/32ND IS ABOUT 3%. BY MY CALCULATIONS THIS IS ABOUT RIGHT. SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE WAS THE PRODUCT OF A SECOND COUSIN RELATIONSHIP HE COULD HAVE BEEN THE PRODUCT OF A FIRST COUSIN RELATIONSHIP ONCE REMOVE PLUS SOMETHING ELSE THAT CONTRIBUTED ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT DOING A MILLION SNIP ARRAY CAN TELL US ABOUT NUMBER OF VARIANTS, YOU HAVE A DELETION, AND RUNS OF HOMHOMO ZYGOSITY. WE FIND SO MANY GENES, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THE SECOND MODALITY IS EXOME SEQUENCING WHICH IS REALLY A SCWEDGES OSEQUENCING OF EVERY GENE. NOT THE SEQUENCE THAT CORRESPONDS TO GENES BUT JUST THE GENES. ACTUALLY, THOSE REGIONS CONSTITUTE ABOUT 1.7% OF OUR GENOME. SO IT'S LIKE 50 SOME MILLION. WE'RE ABLE TO SEQUENCE THOSE AT ABOUT 85-90% COVERAGE OR SO. REMEMBER ERIC SAID, AND HE WAS RIGHT. GOOD WORK, ERIC. HE WAS RIGHT. THAT IF YOU HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, THEY WILL VARY BY 20,000 IN THEIR VARIANTS. SO THIS IS GOING TO GIVE YOU HUGE NUMBERS OF CANDIDATES FOR WHAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER TO BE CAUSAL OF THIS DISEASE. SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR THIS IS TO FILTER DOWN. YOU NEED TO REDUCE THIS NUMBER OF 20,000 BECAUSE REMEMBER EACH OF THESE VARIANTS IS A POTENTIAL DISEASE-CAUSING MUTATION. YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF THOSE 20,000 IT IS. YOU NEED TO RULES THIS NUMBER OF CANDIDATES, VARIANTS FROM 20,000 DOWN TO A REASONABLE NUMBER, LIKE 10. OR 20 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY TEST OUT. AND THE WAY YOU DO THAT IS WHAT WE CALL FILTERS. SOME OF THE BEST FILTER IS RELATIVES. SO IF YOU HAVE A MODEL IN WHICH YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY TWO SIBLINGS, ONE ONE'S AFFECTED AND ONE'S NOT AND YOU CONSIDER THIS TO BE RECESSIVE LIKE AN BEHIND INHERITANCE. YOU LOOK AT THE MUTATIONS THAT HAVE ONE MUTATION IN THE PARENT AND ONE MUTATION IN THE OTHER PARENT AND IN THE UNAFFECTED SIB HAS EITHER ZERO OR ONE MUTATION. ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS CAN BE PUT INTO A PROGRAM, A SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT IS A FILTERING PROGRAM AND CAN REMOVE THE VARIANTS THAT DO NOT FIT THAT MODEL. AND THEN YOU CAN BRING THAT DOWN TO A CERTAIN NUMBER. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THIS. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER FILTERS LIKE DATA BASES OF KNOWN NON-PATHOGENIC VARIANTS. AND LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY PROGRAMS THAT WILL REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING OF HARDY WEINBERG PRINCIPLES. SO MENDELIAN INHERITANCE. AND OTHERS THAT YOU CAN USE WHEN YOU MODEL DOMINANT INHERITANCE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU CONSIDER A NEW MUTATION TO HAVE OCCURRED. AND THEN THE MUTATION WOULD HAVE TO BE ONE THAT OCCURRED IN THE EFFECTED INDIVIDUAL BUT NOT IN EITHER OF THE PARENTS. SO ALL THOSE MODELS ALLOW YOU TO DEVELOP FILTERING SOFTWARE NUMBER OF VARIANTS THAT ARE CANDIDATES FOR CAUSING THE DISEASE. I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES. SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A FAMILY FROM KENTUCKY, OHIO, SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. YES, IT'S LIKE ON THE BORDER, WHERE YOU HAVE FIVE AFFECTED INDIVIDUALS HERE. AND THEY'RE ALL ADULTS BY NOW AND THE PARENTS ARE THIRD COUSINS. ACTUALLY A THIRD CUZ IMIS A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP TO HAVE. THAT IS FOR US JEANETT JAW GENETICISTS. YOU GOT 12.5 PERCENT OF THE ENTIRE GENOME THAT'S HOMOZYGOUS. IF YOU GOT ONE COUSIN THAT'S LESS THAN 1% AND THAT LIMITS YOU DOWN VERY NICELY. SO WE LIKE THESE FOLKS. SO THESE INDIVIDUALS HAD THIS ON THEIR PLANE FILMS. WHEN I SEE THIS, IT WASN'T VERY HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT THIS FAMILY. SO PLANE FILMS SO THIS OF COURSE IS THE FEMUR AND PATELLA AND FIBULA. AND THIS IS THE VESSEL. THAT IS, THIS IS THE FEMORAL ARTERY AND THE POPLITEAL ARTERY. NO CONTRAST. SO THIS IS CALCIFICATION. AND YOU'LL NEVER SEE THIS IN YOUR LIFE. IF YOU'RE PHYSICIANS YOU WILL NEVER SEE THIS IN YOUR LIFE ALMOST CERTAINLY EXCEPT MAYBE HERE. AND THESE INDIVIDUALS ALL HAD CLAUDE CASE. THEY WERE RELYING UPON THEIR COLLATERALS HERE. THE TREATMENT IS TO WALK A LOT EVEN THOUGH IT HURTS SO THEY TOLD MORE CLA COLLATERALS. THEY NEED MORE CIRCULATION THERE. THIS IS UP AT THE PELVIS AND THIS IS THE VESSEL HERE. IT'S A LITTLE HARD FOR ME TO SEE. THESE ARE BIG CALCIFIED VESSELS AND THEY ALSO HAD SOME CALCIFICATION OF THEIR JOINTS. HERE THE META CA METACARPAL FLANGEAL. WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS LIKELY TO BE AN AUTOSOMAL RECESSIVELY INHERITED DISORDER WITH HOMO GU ZYGOSITY. AND LOOK FOR REGIONS OF HOMO ZYGOSITY SHARED BY ALL FIVE AFFECTED SIBLINGS AND NOT THE PARENTS. THERE'S ONLY ONE REGION IN THE ENTIRE GENOME FOR WHICH THIS WAS TRUE. THAT WAS ON CHROMOSOME SIXTH, THIS HOMOZYGOUS REGION. THAT REGION WAS 22 MEG BASES. THERE WERE 92 GENES THERE. BUT IN THIS CASE -- LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THAT. CD73 IS AN OWN SUOMI THAT CONVERTS PHOSPHATE TO ADENOSINE PLUS INORGANIC FAST FATE AT THE VASCULAR AND -- CELLS. INTERESTING THERE'S ALREADY A DISEASE THAT HAD TO DO WITH CALCIFICATION OF VESSELS IN OPEN OPEN -- INFANCY AND THAT WAS THE CONVERSE OF ATP TO MP PLUS -- THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY RARE DISEASE. PROBABLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 10, 20 PATIENTS REPORTED IN THE WORLD. FATAL IN THE FIRST ROUGHLY TWO, THREE YEARS TO LIFE. FROM OUR PATIENT THAT HAVE THIS PARTICULAR DEFECT. AGAIN, WE HAD SMART CELL BIOLOGISTS, ETCETERA. WE DID COME WORK IN OUR OWN LAB TOO. IT COULD BE MUTATIONAL ANALYSIS AND FOUNDED IN THAT FAMILY OF HIGH THEY WERE HOMOZYGOUS FOR NONSENSE MUTATION. WE HAD ANOTHER FAMILY IN ITALY WHICH THEY WERE HOMOZYGOUS FOR A MISS -- MUTATION AND THEN WE HAD A COMPOUND HETEROZYGOUS FROM INDIVIDUALS IN SAN FRANCISCO. MEASURED EXPRESSION OF THE IS AN TIE 5E THAT WAS NORMAL AND RUED. MEASURED 73 PROTEIN AND IT WAS ESSENTIALLY ABSENT. MEASURED THE AMOUNT OF ENZYME ACTIVITY AND IT WAS VASTLY REDUCED. RESCUED WITH A VECTOR THAT CONTAINED CD73 AND RESCUE THE ENZYME ACTIVITY. AND THEN DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF RESIDUAL ACTIVITY IN EACH OF THE MUTANTS WE HAD DISCOVERED COMPARED TO NORMAL AND FOUND THAT WAS REDUCED. AND HERE'S AN INCREDIBLE FINDING IN THIS CASE, WE ARE SORT OF LUCKY. WE DO SKIN FIBRO BLASTS. THEY DO THE CULTURE OF THESE CELLS. AND WHEN THESE CELLS ARE CULTURED AND YOU PUT THEM UNDER CONDITIONS OF CALCIFICATION, AND STAIN, YOU SEE THAT COMPARED TO THE CONTROL, THE AFFECTED INDIVIDUAL HAS A LOT OF ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE. REMEMBER ADENOSINE IS THE PROJECT OF THE I'M SUOM ENSEAM THAT'S MISSING. IF YOU USE A RED STAIN FOR THIS YOU SEE IN THE AFFECTED CELLS IT'S ALL RED, IN THE CONTROL IT'S NOT. AND THIS CAN BE REMOVED BY TRANSDUCING THE VIRUS CONTAINING CD73. IT CAN BE MITIGATED BY ADENOSINE AND REMOVED BY LAVASOL WHICH IS A PHOSPHATE INHIBITOR WHICH BRINGS UP THE WAY TO TREAT THESE INDIVIDUALS. I'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND. HERE'S THE SCHEMA. THIS WILL PRODUCE ADENOSINE. ADENOSINE WILL INTACT WITH ADENOSINE RECEPTORS PLUS SECOND MESSENGERS INTRACELLULARLY TO INHIBIT TISSUE NON-SPECIFIC ALKALINE FALSE FA TASTE. THITASTE -- PHOSPHATASE. IT WILL ALLOW -- TO INHIBIT MINERALIZATION. ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN YOU HAVE THE MUTANT CASE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ADENOSINE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE INHIBITION OF ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE. IT BUILDS UP AS WE SAW IN THE CELLS. IT CONVERTS PYRO PHOSPHATE TO INORGANIC PHOSPHATE AND THERE'S NO INHIBITION OF MINERALIZATION BY -- BUT THERE IS STIMULATION OF MINERAL STIMULATION OF -- THIS IS UNKNOWN TO HAVE OCCURRED AS A CAUSE IN THIS CASE ECTOPIC -- SO WITH WHAT THIS MENIAL IS THAT WE CAN TREAT INDIVIDUALS WITH INHIBITERS OF ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE. AND WHAT IS THAT? HAVE YOU EVER HAD SALLY FIELDS IN YOUR HOME? YES, BONIVA. SO THAT WAS AN ILLUSION. OKAY. BONIVA IS AN INHIBITOR. IT INHIBITS ALKALINE FALSE FA TASTE AND CAN PROBABLY BE USED FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS. AND NOW OUR DIFFICULTY IS TO DETERMINE WHAT WILL BE AN OUTCOME MEASURE FOR THIS. BECAUSE THE ACQUISITION OF THIS DISEASE AND THE CALCIUM IS SO SLOW. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO MEASURE THE CALCIUM BURDEN BY CT SCAN IN THE VESSELS OVER A DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME. SO HERE'S A FIVE YEAR OLD BOY WHO HAS CLUB FOOT AND A DUCTED THUMB AND HE ALSO GETS BLEEDING EPISODES. SO HEMATOMA'S THAT DON'T RESOLVE. HE FELL OFF HIS SCOOTER AND HAD THIS FOR A MONTH. SO HE CAN'T GO OUT. IT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE WOULD CALL A CARDIAC CRIPPLE. IN OTHER WORDS AVOID ACTIVITY BECAUSE AFRAID YOUR HEART'S GOING TO GO BAD. IT'S A BAD SITUATION. PARENTS ARE FIRST COUSIN ONCE REMOVED. SO TWO NORMAL SIBS. WE DID A SNIP ANALYSIS AND FOUND THERE'S A 26 MEGA BASE REGION OF HOMOZYGOSITY SO WE EXPECT THIS TO BE A RECESSIVE DISEASE IN WHICH THE INDIVIDUAL HAS A HOMOZYGOUS MUTATION. AND ON ONE GENE OF THE 72 CANDIDATES THAT ACTUALLY FIT, AND THAT'S A GENE WHOSE PRODUCT WILL, IS AN ENZYME THAT PUTS A SULFATE GROUP ON THE FOUR POSITION OF DETERMINE AWETAN-- DERMA TAN. IT'S STORED IN THE -- THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU CAN ACTUALLY GOOGLE THAT. BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY MAKE DERMATAN SULFATE. THE POINT IS IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CONNECTIVE TISSUE. THAT'S WHY THIS GUY IN DEVELOPMENT HAS CLUB FOOT AND DUCTED THUMBS. SO THERE ARE NO PATIENTS IN THE UNITED STATES WITH THIS EXCEPT THITHIS GUY. THERE ARE SOME PATIENTS IN AUSTRIA AND SOME 20 OR SO PATIENTS IN JAPAN. IT'S THAT RARE. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF PATIENTS THAT WE GEVMENT I GET. IT TURNS OUT DERMATAN SULFATE IS IMPORTANT FOR CLOTS. THIRD CASE, TWO PRUTS WHOSE PARENTS WERE FIRST COUSINS AND HAD NEUROLOGICAL DISEASE. ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY DIED BEFORE WE SAW HIM. THE OTHERS, BOTH OF THEM HAD ATAXIA AND MYO COLONIC SIRTSZ -- CIRCUMSTANCES ANSEIZURES AND DIFFICULTY WA LKING. THIS IS A CASE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO EXAMINE EVERY ONE OF THE 40, 50 MILLION BASI BASES THAT ENCODES GENES AND FOUND ONE PARTICULAR MUTATION HERE. IN FACT, THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE FILTERED. BECAUSE WE'RE DOING BOTH PARENTS AND BOTH AFFECTED BROTHERS AND THE UNAFFECTED BROTHERS, THERE WERE 120,000 VARIANTS SHARED BY THEM. WE NEEDED TO FILLER THIS DOWN. WE LOOKED AT THE VARIANTS PRESENT IN THE THOUSAND GENOME PROJECT AND ELIMINATED THEM AS BEING NON-CAUSAL. THEN DID THE SNIP TRIP LINKAGE SINCE WE HAD A MODEL SYSTEM FOR DEALING INHERITANCE AND GOT RID OF 6,000 MORE. WE EXPECT THIS TO BE HOMOZYGOUS RECESSIVE SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE VARIANTS THAT WERE HOMOZYGOUS RECESSIVE. IN OTHER WORDS, THAT YOU HAD THE SAME MUTATION IN BOTH AFFECTED AND ONLY A SINGLE MUTATION IN EACH PARENT. THAT GIVES US ONLY 11. AND THEN NOT IN THE SNIP WHICH IS A DATA BASE OF KNOWN NON-PAT GENERALLIC VARIANTS ANGENERAL -- PATHOGENI C VARIANTS. SO THIS IS A MITOCHONDRIAL PROTEASE THAT'S FUNCTIONAL WITH AN AX AWNTZ. AX -- A AXONS. THIS IS IN ITSELF WITH A -- HETERO DIMER. THEY ARE DISEASES ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH PAIR LEGIONIC AND F -- THE ONE ASSOCIATED WITH PARAPLEGIC IS TYPE 7. THE ONE ASSOCIATED WITH AFG3L2 IS SPINE OWE CEREBELLUM ATAXIA 28. I TURNS OUT THE MUTATION IS HOMOZYGOUS IN THESE TWO BROTHERS WAS AT THE EXACT POINT WHERE THE PROTEIN INTERACTS BOTH WITH ITSELF AND WITH PARAPLEGIC. AS A CONSEQUENCE, THESE BOYS HAD BOTH DISEASES IN ONE DUE TO THE SINGLE MUTATION, RECESSIVE MUTATION. AND ELSE, THESE BOYS ARE THE FIRST ONES IN THE WORLD TO BE DESCRIBED WITH THIS PARTICULAR NEUROLOGICAL MANIFESTATION OF THIS DISEASE. WHICH YOU SEE POINTS OUT THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY MORE DISEASES THAN THERE ARE GENES. BECAUSE HERE'S A GENE THAT IS DOMINANT IN SOME CASES AND RECESSIVE IN OTHERS DEPENDING UPON WHERE THE MUTATION IS. AND OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES OF THAT IN TERMS OF LAMIN A AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF TIME SO I'M JUST GOING TO LET THIS THING GO. THIS IS ANOTHER NEW DISEASE GENE THAT WE FOUND THAT ONE OF OUR PEOPLE IS WORKING ON. IT'S A MYOPATHY THAT'S DOMINANT. NEVER ASSOCIATED WITH HEM HEM HEP 3 BEFORE. I'VE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF THESE. RARE RARE DISEASES. REMEMBER THE DEFINITION OF A RARE DISEASE IN THE UNITED STATES IS ONE THAT AFFECTS FEWER THAN 200,000 INDIVIDUALS. THIS IS BY A LAW, THE 1983 ORPHAN DRUG BILL. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS DISEASES THAT AFFECT FEWER THAN 50 OLE WORLD. AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SCREENED BY HOPKINS AND MAYO AND CLEVELAND CLINIC. THEY HAVEN'T FOUND THEM SO NOW WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY THIS SORT OF NEW TYPE OF GENETICS TO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CLINICAL CENTER, IT'S FREE AND WE HAVE PRETTY SMART DOCTORS I THINK. SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER DIAGNOSIS THAT WE'VE MADE. AND I TELL THE AUDIENCES, IF YOU KNOW MORE THAN A COUPLE OF THESE DISEASES, YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY GET OUT MERE. GET A LIFE, PLAY BALL, GARDEN. DO THINGS, READ A BOOK, PLAY SOFTBALL, WHATEVER, THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE THESE ARE INCREDIBLY RARE DISORDERS. MOST OF THEM, EXCEPT MAYBE FIBRO MYALGIA AND MORGAN SYNDROME THAT I DON'T TALK ABOUT. THESE ARE ONE THAT WE HAVE NOT DISCOVERED AS BEING A CLINICAL ENTITY. STILL MYSTERIES. NOW LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A YOUNG LADY HERE AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO BRING KELLY TO THE FRONT. COME ON UP HERE, KELLY. AND I'M ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO HAVE YOU SIT DOWN RIGHT AWAY, THANK YOU. WHAT DID THIS REMIND ME OF? THIS REMINDS ME OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. EVERYTHING GOES TO THE LOW BIDDER. THIS IS THE LOWEST BIDDER. I WANT TO THANK THE LOW I WAS LOWEST BIDDER. WHERE ARE YOU FROM KELLY. >> LOUISIANA. >> DOES IT HURT TO YOU TALK? THAT'S OKAY. THESE A MIC, YES, SLINLT. OKAY. ONE, TWO, THREE, TESTING. LOUISIANA. IT ONCE CAME TO OCCUR THAT YOU WERE IN A HOSPITAL HAVING AN OPERATION AT ONE TIME DURING A HURRICANE, IS THAT CORRECT. >> IT WASN'T A HURRICANE, IT WAS, YOU MEAN WHEN THE MAIN -- >> THE POWER WENT OUT. >> THE WATER MAIN FLOOD, I WAS IN THE ICU. AND THE WATER MAIN FLOOD RIGHT IN MY ROOM. THEY HAD TO EVACUATE ME. >> HAD TO GET RID OF YOU. >> YES. >> YOU HAD A TUBE IN. YOU WERE INTUBATED. >> YES. >> BUT WHEN THEY MOVED YOU THEY COULDN'T BREATHE OFF THE WALL ANYMORE. SO WHAT DID THEY DO. >> THEY PUT THE BREATHING PUMP IN MY MOUTH AND THE NURSE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING BUT SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE IT SO I GRABBED IT FROM HER BECAUSE I COULDN'T BREATHE SO I STARTED PUMPING IT MYSELF. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET ME OUT OF THE WATER. >> THE WEAKER SEX, RIGHT. NOT TRUE. THIS IS A TOUGH TOUGH WOMAN. OKAY. SO TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DISORDER. WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU RECOGNIZED THAT SOMETHING WAS AMISS? >> I WAS IN THE 9TH GRADE AND I NOTICED A SMALL NODULE IN MY JAW. AND IT STARTED TO KIND OF, I HAD BRACES AT THE TIME. I THOUGHT IT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH THAT, BUT IT KIND OF STARTED AFFECTING MY JAW OPENING. I COULDN'T OPEN MY MOUTH AS WIDE AND IT GOT WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE. >> OKAY. AND LATER ON YOU HAD NODULES IN YOUR LUNG. I'LL JUST SHOW FOLKS NODULES IN THE LUNG RIGHT HERE. SO THERE'S ONE THERE'S ONE. THEY DON'T BELONG THERE. AND YOU ALSO HAD A KINK IN YOUR URETER. AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, THIS KIDNEY HERE IS MUCH BIGGER THAN ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE URINE BACKED UP AND MADE THE KIDNEY BIGGER. SO IT'S HYDRO NEPHROSIS. WE'LL SHOW YOU THE PATHOLOGY THERE. BUT BECAUSE OF THIS TUMOR YOU WERE UNABLE TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH COMPLETELY. HOW FAR CAN YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH NOW? IT DOESN'T HURT DOES IT. SO THAT'S 12 OR 14 MILLIMETERS OR SO. THIS WAS A TIME WHEN YOU COULD ONLY OPEN YOUR MOUTH 20 MILLIMETERS. DIFFICULT TO EAT BECAUSE OF THAT. THAT'S BECAUSE THE TUMOROUS TISSUE WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU HERE AND IT ATE AWAY AT THE CRIBRIFORM PLATE. IF YOU EVER SAW THE SKULL AND AT THE FRONT OF THE SKULL THEY HAVE THOSE THIN BONES THOSE ARE THE CRIBRIFORM PLATES. THIS TUMOR IT'S NOT REALLY MALIGNANT IN TERMS OF SPREADI AROUND THE BODY BUT LOCALLY IT ATE AWAY THAT THAT BONE WHICH IS SORT OF A BIG DEAL AND IT ALSO RUINED YOUR ABILITY TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH WITH YOUR MUSCLES. WERE YOU EVER GIVEN A FEEDING TUBE OR ANYTHING? NOTHING LIKE THAT. >> IT WOULDN'T FIT THROUGH MY TEETH. >> OKAY. SO HERE'S THE PATHOLOGY SHOWING SOME LYMPHOCYTES AND SOME FIBROUS TISSUE. OKAY, SO. SO THE FIBROUS TISSUE HERE AND THEN THE LYMPHOCYTES HERE. AND IT'S ALL THE SAME. IN THE CHEEK AND IN THE LUNG. SO THE SAME DERIVATION. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] I'VE HAD RECURRING -- EVER SINCE IT ALL STARTED TOO. THEY BIOPSIED THAT FLUID, THEY HAD TO TAP IT. IT CAME BACK THE SAME THEY HAD GOTTEN FROM THEOFF AND MY LUNG BIOPSY AND THE SINUS. >> AND ALSO IN THE LIVER. HERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE FIBRIL, EXCITATORY AND CYTOKINES ARE ELEVATED. WE HAVE NO GENETIC ETIOLOGY FOR THIS AT THIS TIME. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE CASES WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE DIAGNOSE BUT WE'RE NODIAGNOSIS BUT WE'RE N OT ABLE TO USE ALL OF THE GENETIC TECHNIQUES. YOU HAVE A SISTER AND BROTHER TOO. >> I HAVE A TWIN SISTER AND OLDER SISTER. >> SO THERE WAS DNA FROM BOTH OF THEM. >> JUST ONE OF THEM. >> SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON SOME MORE. BUT REALLY THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'LL HAVE TOO MANY VARIANTS AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FILTER IT DOWN ENOUGH. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CULTURE YOUR CELLS FROM THE -- MAXILLARY BIOPSY. OUR SURGEONS TOOK A PIECE OF THAT AT THE NIH. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THESE BEFORE. >> NOT THOSE. >> THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BIZARRE SHAPED. THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY NORMAL. THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S FROM THAT TISSUE. AND YOU HAD OVER THE COURSE OF THESE YEARS PROGRESSIVE ENLARGEMENT OF THE RIGHT PTERYGOID MAXILLARY SINUS. SO HERE IS THE SINUSES. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN LIKE THIS. AND AS TIME GOES ON, THIS BECOMES SMALLER AND SMALLER BECAUSE THE TUMOR AROUND IT IT. LIKE THAT, OVER THE COURSE OF THOSE YEARS. SO WHAT WE DID IN THE LABORATORY WAS TO GUESS AT WHAT MIGHT REDUCE THE RATE OF GROWTH OF THESE ESSENTIALLY TUMOR CELLS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRIED WAS HYDROX OWE CLOSE HYDROXY CLOSER I -- A WEAK BASE USED FOR MALARIA. YOU KNOW HOW -- HELPS MALARIA BY ALKALINIZING IT. IN ANY EVENT IT SEEMS TO HELP. IT DECREASES THE GROWTH RATE. SO WE GAVE YOU HYDROXY -- AND YOU'VE BEEN TAKING THAT FOR HOW LONG NOW? >> TWO YEARS. >> OKAY. AND WHAT'S HAPPENED TO YOUR MOUTH DURING THAT TIME? >> I HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY FLARE UPS. EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH STAYED AT BAY. >> SO PRETTY MUCH NOTHING HAS HAPPENED WHEN PREVIOUSLY THINGS WERE GROWING RATHER RAPIDLY. SO THIS IS A CRP WHICH IS THE MEASURE OF INFLAMMATION. SO THAT WENT DOWN AND HAS SORT OF BEEN BOUNCING AROUND ARE AT THE HIGH LEVEL BUT NOT NEARLY AS HIGH AS IT WAS BEFORE. AND HERE ARE THE LUNG NODULES BEFORE AND YOU CAN SEE, LET'S SEE, WHAT WOULD BE A NODULE. THIS IS A NODULE, PROBABLY THIS IS A NODULE. PROBABLY THESE ARE LITTLE NODULES. AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY STABILIZED. AND HERE IS THE PTERYGOID MAXILLARY SINUS BEFORE AND AFTER HERE. THERE'S EITHER NO DIFFERENCE OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BETTER OR SOME SUCH. THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING IT'S NOT AN EXAMPLE YET OF OUR ABILITY TO APPLY NEXT GENERATION JETGENETICS BUT IT IS A DEMONSTRATION OF OUR ABILITY TO TAKE TISSUE FROM YOU. ALMOST DONE. JUST A SECOND. AND DO SOME STUDIES THAT MAY BE OF BENEFIT TO A PATIENT. LET ME JUST ASK, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] YOU MENTION IT IS A MUSCLE TUMOR. >> I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS A PLASMA CELL TUMOR. WHAT I SAID WAS THAT IT WAS FIBROUS AND INFLAMMATORY. IT HAD LYMPHOCYTES. THERE WAS AN OCCASIONAL PLASMA CELL BUT THAT WAS THE THE PRIMARY THING. WE WOULDN'T TREAT WITH -- YOU COULD FOR OTHER REASONS BUT NOT TO GET RID OF THE PLASMA CELLS. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. I REALLY PRESSURE IT. -- I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND GOOD WORK. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH TOO BECAUSE AS A HUSBAND I KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE TOO. SO NOW I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME UGLY PICTURES. DO YOU WANT ME TO QUIT RIGHT NOW? >> NO, GO AHEAD. >> BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO -- OKAY. SO HERE'S -- I'LL DO THIS QUICKLY. HERE'S A MAN WHO IS 34 YEARS OLD AND HE HAS THIS INFLAMMATORY LESIONS THAT ARE ULCERATING. HE'S HAD HIS RIGHT HAND CUT OFF BY SURGEONS BECAUSE HE WAS GANG GANGRENOUS. HERE'S HIS FACE. HE'S GOT A PURPOSE RATED SEPTUM HERE. THIS IS VERY PAINFUL AND INFLAMMATORY. IT'S AN INFLAMMATORY DISEASE. HERE IT IS GRADUATION FROM HIGH SCHOOL. THIS HAS ALL OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS OWE SO. AND WE TREAT HIM WITH MAGGOTS TO ESSENTIALLY CLEAN OUT HIS WOUND. IT'S INTERESTING, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUY THESE MAGGOTS FROM A COMPANY AND HAVE THEM DELIVERED TWO DAYS LATER OR SO. IT'S LIKE A DRUG. OF COURSE THEY'RE A PRIVACY ISSUE, SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS. WE HAVE MEDICAL MONITORS WHO WATCH THIS. OKAY, FINE. SO HERE THE PATHOLOGY. AND IT'S REALLY HISTO SIDIC AND LYMPHOSIDIC. IT'S AN UNUSUAL CASE BUT WE SUBSEQUENTLY HAVE ANOTHER APPLICANT, BECAUSE REMEMBER WE'RE REALLY ENRICHING FOR THE INCREDIBLY UNUSUAL. AND YOU SEE THIS INDIVIDUAL, ACTUALLY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN HER YET. BUT HERE SHE IS AND SHE'S LOST THE CARTILAGE OF HER NOSE AND SHE HAS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIRST CASE, THE PREVIOUS CASE I SHOWED YOU. SO WE THINK HAT THI THIS TYPE OF THING CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PATHOLOGY MIGHT BE INVOLVED HERE. SO THE RHEUMATOLOGIST AND THE PERIODIC FEVER DOCTORS ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THESE CASES. AND THE FIRST CASE ACTUALLY TREATING THE -- WHICH IS AN IO6 INHIBITOR. IT'S NOT ME, THEY ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. BUT THIS YOUNG LADY IS 17 YEARS OLD. SHE'S DEVELOPMENTMEN DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS AND OBVIOUSLY MORE AFFECTED THAN THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL WAS WITH THIS. WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE WAY THAT WE CAN APPLY THIS MODERN GENETICS TO HUMAN DISEASES AND USE REALLY RARE UNUSUAL UNDIAGNOSED DISORDERS TO TRY TO FIND NEW DISEASES AND MAYBE FIND OUT VARIANTS OF KNOWN DISORRS TO EXPAND THE KNOWN PHENOTYPE OF THESE DISORDERS. WE WANT TO HAVE BASIC SCIENTISTS STUDY THESE DISORDERS. WE HAVE PROBABLY 50 THAT COULD USE ME BASIC SCIENCE EXPERTS IN A PARTICULAR FIELD. WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND THIS EVEN POSSIBLY TO CTSA'S AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND REALLY HELP INDIVIDUALS ALONG THE WAY. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL. SO I CAN PROBABLY TAKE QUESTIONS. IF YOU WANT OR NOT. WHATEVER. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH, BILL. SO PLEASE, DO WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HOW MUCH OF THIS IS A GLOBAL ENTERPRISE IN THE SENSE OF PATIENTS AND REFERRALS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD? >> WELL, ALTHOUGH WE DO GET INQUIRIES, WE DON'T TAKE TOO MANY FROM OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES EXCEPT MAYBE CANADA. BUT I WOULD SAY OVER 95% OF OUR PATIENTS ARE U.S. CITIZENS. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO EMULATE THIS IN, I GOT A CALL FROM THE HEALTH SERVICE OF BRITAIN, FROM SINGAPORE AND FROM CHINA. AND NOT TO MENTION ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE MONEY UNLESS THEY GET MAYBE 10 TO $15 N MILLION FROM A BENEFACTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO BE UNITED STATES CITIZENS. BU IT'S ALSO TRUE IN MANY PLACES IN THE WORLD THE WORK UPS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT FOR US TO ACCEPT ANYBODY. IN OTHER WORDS THEY HAVE TOOK PRETTY WELL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE ELIMINATED ALL SORTS OF CANDIDATE DISORDERS FOR US TO BE WILLING TO TAKE A PATIENT. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS A GOOD CASE. >> BILL, COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS A GOOD CASE. A GOOD CASE IS ONE IN WHICH THERE'S A FAMILY THAT HAS A PATTERN OF INHERITANCE THAT WE RECOGNIZE BECAUSE THEN WE CAN APPLY THE MODEL FILTERS AND WE CAN ALSO HAVE DNA FROM THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS TO ANALYZE IT. THAT'S A GOOD CASE. ANOTHER ISSUE IS WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF OBJECTIVE FINDINGS. AND IT ISN'T JUST PEOPLE COMPLAINING. AND SOMETHING THAT'S NEW. SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT BEFORE. >> IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, WE SET UP THE PROGRAM OF THIS COURSE ON THE BASIS OF OLD FASHIONED GRAND MEDICAL ROUNDS. WHEREIN SOMEONE PATIENT WAS PRESENTED WHICH RARELY IF EVER HAPPENS, A LIVE PATIENT IN MEDICAL ROUNDS, ANY PLACE IN THE COUNTRY TODAY WHICH WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO, WHERE A CLINICAL INVESTIGATOR WHO HACK STUDYING PRESENT THE CLINICAL ASPECTS AND THE BASIC SCIENCE. THAT FORMAT HAS DISAPPEARED IN MEDICAL EDUCATION. AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT ONE OF THE GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS BROUGHT ABOUT IS TO GET ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MINDS IN THE SAME ROOM THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY NORMALLY DON'T THINK ABOUT. YOU WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THAT AS A KIND OF A PHILOSOPHIC APPROACH TO THE WAY EDUCATION AND MEDICAL CARE SHOULD E. >> I'LL MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS. ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN CRITICIZED FOR PRESENTING PATIENTS O OUR PATIENTS AT THE GENETICS ROUNDS. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS AN IMPOSITION ON THE PATIENTS, EVEN THOUGH HE WE ASKED FOR THEIR PERMISSION. VIRTUALLY EVERY PATIENT IS ANXIOUS TO TELL HER OR HIS STORY AND FIND THIS TO BE ACTUALLY THERAPEUTIC. I'VE BEEN CRITICIZED FOR THAT 10, 15 YEARS AGO AND STILL AM. SO THAT'S AN ISSUE OF THE CHANGING WAY THAT WE DO BUSINESS AS EDUCATORS OF MEDICAL STUDENTS. I THINK IT'S JUST COMPLETELY NUTTY TO NOT ALLOW MICHIGANS TO TELL THEIR STLEERS -- ALLOW PATIENTS TO TELL THEIR STORIES. THAT'S ONE THING. BUT THE SECOND THING IS WHY ARE WE ANY DIFFERENT FROM MAYO CLINIC OR CLEVELAND CLINIC OR HOPKINS OR ANY OF THOSE PLACES. ONE OF THE REASON IS AT MANY OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS, INDUSTRIALLY -- VIRTUA LLY ALL OF THEM IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE DOCTORS TO GET AWAY FROM THEIR CLINICS. THE CHAIRS OF THEIR DEPARTMENTS DON'T ALLOW THEM TO ATTEND A MULTIDISCIPLINARY CONFERENCE OVER PATIENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE LOSING CLINIC MONEY. ESSENTIALLY IT'S A BUSINESS AND THAT ACTUALLY DOESN'T OCCUR MUCH HERE WHERE THE PHYSICIANS ARE PROVIDING PROBONO SERVICE TO THE UNDIAGNOSED DISEASE PROGRAM AND WILL ACTUALLY COME TO A MEETING AND DISCUSS THIS. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BASIC SCIENTISTS WHO WILL OFTEN COME TO A MEETING TOO. SO THAT'S UNIQUE AND IT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THE NIH, I THINK. WHAT AN INCREDIBLE PRIVILEGE TO WORK HERE AND TO HAVE YOUR TEXT PAIR DOLLARS PAY FOR US AND OUR SALARIES AND PAY FOR THE CLINICAL CENTER TO SEE PATIENTS WITHOUT HAVING TO GET INSURANCE. OF COURSE CONGRESS WANTS TO CHANGE THAT AND MAKE US ACCEPT AND FORCE US TO RECEIVE THIRD PARTY REIMBURSEMENT WHICH IS ANOTHER TERRIBLE IDEA AND WILL ACTUALLY TRY PEOPL DRIVE PEOPLE LIKE ME AWAY FROM THE NIH. I MAY AS WELL WORK ELSEWHERE IF I HAVE TO FILL OUT INSURANCE WORK. THAT'S PHILOSOPHICAL. BUT I'M NOT UPSET ABOUT THIS. >> I HAVE TO THROW IN A LITTLE BIT OF ADDED PHILOSOPHY TO THAT IN THAT THERE'S A GREAT TENDENCY IN MEDICINE AND SCIENCE TO BE TOTALLY POLARIZED. THERE ARE EVEN ARLSZ WRITTEN ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU TONIGHT REALLY NEED PHYSICIANS ANYMORE HARDLY BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT THE SEQUENCES AND YOU CAN PREDICT. NOW OBVIOUSLY THAT'S OFF THE WALL. FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE POST DOCS IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S AN ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITY ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS BRIDGE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LABEL THAT STICKS YOU IN BOTH, IN EITHER ONE. YOU CAN BELONG IN BOTH. AND THE VIRTUE OF LIKE THESE MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES IS YOU MAY NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BONE OR CALCIUM OR ANYTHING. BUT THE CHANCES ARE YOU'RE GOING TO START TO THINK ABOUT IT THROUGH THE VISION OF WHAT I DON'T REMEMBER OWN EXPERTISE IS. AND THAT'S REALLY THE WAY THAT PROGRESS IS USUALLY MADE, ISN'T IT? >> YES, I THINK SO. SO I HATE THOSE POLARIZING PEOPLE. >> I JUST LIKE TO SAY I'M THE LEAST AMONG YOU BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE PH.D. I WORK AT THE WE HAVE CASE WHERE A PERSON COMES IN WITH TTP. AND THEN SO THEY'RE MISSING THAT ADAM'S 13 ENZYME THAT BREAKS DOWN T THE -- CHAIN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE BREAK DOWN OF THE VAUGHN -- PROTEIN CHAIN BY THAT ENZYME THEY DEVELOP THE PLATELETS CLOT AND THEY HAVE A BIG DISEASE AND EVERYTHING. OUR THERAPIST IS TO DO PLASMA FREEZES AND THAT SUPPLIES THE PATIENT WITH THE ENZYMES. THERE ARE OTHER THERAPIES LIKE BONE MARROW TRANSPLANTS SAY FOR, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE FOR SICKLE CELL PATIENTS TO CHANGE THEIR GENETICS THERE. WHAT IS YOUR FUTURE? WHAT IN I DON'T REMEMBER MIND DO YOU HAVE FOR THE VECTOR TO CHANGE THE GENOME. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GENOME WHAT'S THE NORMAL BIOLOGY. WHAT'S THE DISEASE BIOLOGY. THE THERAPISTS ARE GOING TO BE AN ANTIBODY IN THE CASE OF CANCER DIRECTED SPECIFICALLY AT THAT TUMOR, THE THERAPY IS GOING TO BE PLASMA FREEZE. THE THERAPIST IS GOING TO BE SUPPLYING A DRUG TO JEAN MODIFY TO TURN A GENE OR OFF. WHAT'S THE VECTOR. THEY HAVE THE INSERTION OF A GENE TO CHANGE THE GENETICS OF THE MICE SO NOW THIS MICE WILL EXPRESS WHAT'S MISSING. WHAT IN THE FUTURE DO YOU SEE? >> I'M SURE THAT THERE WILL BE CUSCUSTOMIZED THERAPY. THE IT GETS TO ALL THE TISSUES OF THE BODY. SO THAT WILL BE BETTER THAN GENE THERAPY THAT'S DIRECTED AUTHORIZE A PARTICULAR ORGAN SYSTEM. SO I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL STILL WANT TO DEVELOP SMALL MOLECULE THERAPISTS. FOR OTHER PATIENTS, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE GENE THERAPY THAT WILL BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THIS ORGANNOR THAT ORGAN OORGANOR THAT ORGAN AN D I'M HOPEFUL WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL VECTORS OFF THE SHELF TO DIRECT DRUGS TO PARTICULAR TISSUES AND TO DIRECT GENES TO PARTICULAR TISSUES AS WELL. BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CLEAR SOLUTION THAT IS UNIVERSAL. BUT I DO THINK THAT EVERY TIME YOU FIND A GENE IN A MECHANISM OF ACTION, THAT THAT GIVES RISE TO ANOTHER FIELD IN WHICH YOU CAN APPLY, DIRECT YOURSELF TOWARDS REMEDYING THAT PARTICULAR PATHWAY. NOW THAT'S WHY THE CALCIFICATION THING WAS SORT OF INTERESTING. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE THAT FOR CALCIFICATION AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. >> ERIC, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THIS? OKAY WELL, I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU. ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY THIS HAS REALLY BEEN A MARVELOUS EXCITING THING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.